| Time | Speaker | Text |
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| 00:01:45.97 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:01:59.24 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:01:59.37 | Unknown | . |
| 00:02:01.03 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. It wasn't that effective, the voting process. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:02:14.19 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Thank you. you Thank you. It doesn't make you do it in your chest. It's just a guy's chance for a better future reason. So because I'm in the time. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. look at. |
| 00:03:15.04 | Unknown | All right. |
| 00:03:16.03 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:03:16.24 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:03:16.91 | Carolyn Ford | his own. |
| 00:03:17.57 | Unknown | Thank you. you Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:03:19.14 | Carolyn Ford | What's funny is pretty much everyone that gets a program ever does a little song or dance. You're actually the best singer ever. That background. |
| 00:03:36.47 | Carolyn Ford | you |
| 00:05:22.23 | Carolyn Ford | you |
| 00:05:45.94 | Herb Weiner | Well, then, yeah, I see what Carolyn says if she... She will not be here tonight. |
| 00:05:53.06 | Linda Pfeifer | Yeah, I know. |
| 00:05:54.05 | Herb Weiner | She apparently... |
| 00:06:17.22 | Herb Weiner | Um, are we ready? Okay. |
| 00:06:26.47 | Herb Weiner | Good evening and welcome to the 1-11-11, the first meeting of the 11. It's called to... For roll call, please. |
| 00:06:48.96 | Unknown | Council member Pfeiffer. |
| 00:06:50.46 | Linda Pfeifer | Here. |
| 00:06:50.82 | Unknown | . Vice Mayor Kelly. Here. Mayor Weiner. |
| 00:06:55.12 | Herb Weiner | I know what you were going to say. Here. |
| 00:06:58.36 | Unknown | And Councilmember Leon is late, and Councilmember Ford is absent. |
| 00:07:06.41 | Herb Weiner | At this time here, we have a closed session items, and that's D1 to D3. One being negotiations with Sausalito Yardhaber. to uh... Zacks versus existing litigation on Zacks and conference with labor negotiator. Is there anybody in the public that would like to talk on these closed items? Okay, then we'll adjourn to closed session. |
| 00:07:36.92 | Mary Wagner | Mr. Mayor, just for purposes of the record, there is a fourth closed session agenda item, which is public employee performance evaluation following up. And so there's actually D1 through D4 tonight. |
| 00:07:45.02 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Okay, you got it. D4. Oh yeah, I'm sorry. |
| 00:07:55.52 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:07:57.39 | Carolyn Ford | Okay. |
| 00:08:18.20 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:09:24.97 | Carolyn Ford | No. |
| 00:09:46.47 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:09:58.92 | Herb Weiner | Would everybody please be seated? Thank you, Dorothy. We're ready. Welcome to the first meeting for 2011. On 11, 11, and hope we get out of here before 11. |
| 00:10:21.10 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:10:22.18 | Herb Weiner | Um... Before we have the roll call, I just would like to Thank you. Kind of make a statement that You know, in this country we see a changing that a lot of people have commented on that, You know, if we really don't get real good communication out there, and good understanding. And then, It appears that fear and anger sets in And I would like to take a... Just a moment. just to reflect on... |
| 00:10:55.37 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:10:56.18 | Herb Weiner | the tragedy that happened in Tucson. So can we have a. few seconds for moment. |
| 00:11:13.06 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Thank you. Have the will call, please. |
| 00:11:20.16 | Unknown | Council Member Pfeiffer? Here. Council Member Leon? |
| 00:11:23.65 | Unknown | Here. |
| 00:11:24.29 | Unknown | Vice Mayor Kelly. Here. And Mayor Weiner. |
| 00:11:25.38 | Unknown | here. here I usually say present |
| 00:11:30.27 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:11:31.62 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:11:39.72 | Herb Weiner | I forget your first name, but I'm going to have you do the Pledge of Allegiance for us. So would you help us with the Pledge of Allegiance? |
| 00:11:49.69 | Jonathan Leone | The first two lines, it's together. To the flag. To the flag. |
| 00:11:53.13 | Herb Weiner | to the flag of the United States of America and the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. |
| 00:11:54.50 | Jonathan Leone | Amen. Thank you. |
| 00:11:56.86 | Unknown | and |
| 00:11:57.47 | Jonathan Leone | you |
| 00:12:03.06 | Mary Wagner | It is. with liberty and justice. |
| 00:12:10.89 | Herb Weiner | Okay, the council met in closed sessions. And we went over the items. Number one was The negotiation on the Sassolito Yachthaber. Number two was the litigation with Zacks. Number three was a I labor negotiations. And number four was the public employee. evaluation. At this time here, do we have any comments from the public on any of the closed session items? Okay. |
| 00:12:49.04 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Thank you. but actually |
| 00:12:52.92 | Herb Weiner | Yeah, these actions, there was really not too much action taken. We just were in discussions. And gave direction. Thank you. And we gave directions on item number three and four. I'll get used to this. |
| 00:13:03.74 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:13:13.36 | Unknown | Amen. |
| 00:13:16.80 | Herb Weiner | We have the approval of the Agenda. Thank you. |
| 00:13:23.55 | Mike Kelly | approval. Second. |
| 00:13:27.08 | Herb Weiner | Malum Feva? Aye. Opposed? |
| 00:13:28.12 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:13:28.14 | Mike Kelly | I. |
| 00:13:30.57 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. while at this time here, We have special presentations. And it'll be by Jonathan Goldman. |
| 00:13:40.26 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 00:13:40.91 | Herb Weiner | Wearing another suit. |
| 00:13:42.01 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 00:13:42.43 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:13:44.80 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I only have one of the special presentations this evening. Oh, thank you. Jonathan Goldman, your Public Works Director I will be brief but wanted, I appreciate the opportunity to announce to the council this evening to assembled members of the staff And the community both in the room and watching on the edges of their seats on the web. We on Team Sausalito have had the advantage of an individual in our farm system in many respects for 15 years who in the last few years has really risen to the occasion. Many times, many opportunities, and after an internal recruitment to fill a vacant supervisor position, I'm honored to be able to introduce to the council Kent Basso, who was appointed to that position recently, and encourage Kent to say a few words and say hello to you in his new capacity as a supervisor. |
| 00:14:12.98 | Unknown | Thank you. to the |
| 00:15:06.84 | Kent Basso | Hello. |
| 00:15:08.68 | Herb Weiner | Congratulations. |
| 00:15:09.73 | Kent Basso | My family and I would like to thank Jonathan first and foremost for giving this opportunity. And those of you who know me, I'm here to get the job done. and I won't disappoint you. And once again, another 15 more years to go. |
| 00:15:30.03 | Unknown | I'm not. |
| 00:15:30.05 | Kent Basso | Bye. |
| 00:15:30.06 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:15:30.18 | Kent Basso | I'm sorry. Thank you. |
| 00:15:38.97 | Herb Weiner | Okay, our next presentation will be by Professor Redland. |
| 00:15:46.85 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:16:01.80 | Unknown | Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Mr. Vice Mayor, members of the Council. Wait for it. |
| 00:16:11.42 | Unknown | I'm here to introduce you to our new webcasting system. We are using a system called Granicus. It should probably say Introduction to Webcasting with Granicus. Thank you. Um, the This system replaces the system we've been using, which is a product, a very fine product, called Sonicleer, which was released quite a few years ago that just records digitally and then it's kind of a manual process to convert the files into something that can be used on the web. It's very kind of a little clunky by today's standards, at least the version we have is. So I guess to answer the first question of why we upgraded, the first question is, well, the first answer is improved functionality. Live and archival streaming goes to any computer on the Internet as long as you have Silverlight, which is a free plug-in from Microsoft. When I say any computer on the Internet, if you're connected with dial-up, you will get a picture and you will get sound. It won't be. tremendous high quality, but you'll get something. It's what they call intelligent streaming. If you've got broadband, you get a better picture, obviously. Archives are available as podcasts and RSS subscriptions for mobile users, so if you missed the meeting, You can always check it out on your iPhone or or a droid. improved playback functionality. We can now rewind and pause and play again and fast forward and do all of those amazing things that tape recorders allowed us to do back in 1972. Thank you, I'm here all week. Ah... It's also measurable. We get statistics on what your community is looking at, which items are most important to them. So we can go back after we've had a chance to record a number of meetings, see what the hits are. And I guess the last thing. is that it's proven. Granica serves over 400 cities, 90 counties, 13 state agencies, and a whole bunch more. Locally, they serve San Francisco, Mill Valley, San Rafael, Novato, Marin County, and now, of course, Sausalito. We have one camera. You'll notice it's the cute little R2D2 looking device just inside the door. It moves around. We don't have a multi-camera system because that would require someone to run it and actually edit the video real time. That may come, but for this maiden voyage, we're going with one camera and four programmed views. There's a wide angle shot of the dais, a wide angle view of the podium and the screen. a close up of the screen so you can see the presentations and a close up on the Mayor's You can thank me later for that, Herb. |
| 00:19:07.04 | Unknown | The live stream is delayed by about 17 seconds. So those at home, I'm sorry to say what you're watching happen 17 seconds ago in the past. Archived meetings are available online within 24 hours. sometimes sooner, sometimes later, but there's a page and something not unlike Sonicler, something needs to get constructed and put together so that it's viewable and users will be able to look at the agenda and so on. Just take this back. No, it doesn't. So, things to keep in mind. The camera never blinks. Everything we do on camera becomes part of the public record, including my hijinks. What was I thinking? What you do when you're not the one talking is still captured. and the camera cannot hear you, please remember to use your microphones. Be aware of when they are on and be aware of when they are off. What not to wear? Too much white clothing will darken the picture by fooling the camera into thinking there's more light than there actually is. And so everything except your clothing will darken. if, like me, you have a Saturday night fever suit in your closet. Thank you. As tempting as it is, you probably might not want to wear those to meetings. Red clothing will make you stand out. which might be what you want. Moving on. Your audience is now global. You're international. for better. Or for worse. |
| 00:20:49.69 | Unknown | You're not 3D yet. I'm working on it. I guess the takeaway from this is, and this is actually something that was presented to me by Granicus, is that these meetings are, in a lot of cases, the first impression that potential visitors have to cities like ours. So what they see, you're now the billboard for Sausalito. No more wrestling. |
| 00:21:18.53 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:21:20.56 | Unknown | So what about local TV? One of the requests while putting this together was to put together a plan for getting us on television. When we wired for the camera to the encoder, which is across the building, we also wired for television. Phase two will be working with the content management center of Marin to get our content to local access television. So stay tuned for that, future attractions. And have fun making movies. That's my presentation. And any questions? |
| 00:21:56.11 | Unknown | It's, well, 13 to 17 seconds. I actually, as you know, during one of the early tests, I did a little a little jig in front of the camera and then ran down the hall to where Debbie was watching and I think you were there too to see if I could see myself and I didn't quite make it. These tests are very important. |
| 00:22:14.54 | Mike Kelly | So it's both video content in the archive and recorded content or just recorded? No, it's audio and video. |
| 00:22:15.45 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:22:15.48 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:22:15.59 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:22:22.29 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:22:22.35 | Jonathan Leone | No, it's audio and video. |
| 00:22:24.41 | Mike Kelly | Great. |
| 00:22:26.59 | Jonathan Leone | So then the next step, Brett, would be to certainly get it on Channel 27. They need the content for the government channel. Right. And those would be archived copies, obviously not live. |
| 00:22:33.68 | John Nichols | Thank you. |
| 00:22:33.71 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:22:36.41 | Jonathan Leone | But I think they also might want your live stream for their website, which I think they're at Tiburon and somebody else is streaming live on there. website, but you can talk to Dave and see what he wants to do. |
| 00:22:51.58 | Mike Kelly | Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you, man. Thank you. |
| 00:22:54.94 | Jonathan Leone | enjoy okay the thing I think that people have found with other cities is that you can stay at home and when your item is coming up you get in the car that's what people have told me they've done we don't |
| 00:23:05.18 | Mary Wagner | You kidding. card. |
| 00:23:06.03 | Carolyn Ford | Bye. |
| 00:23:06.16 | Herb Weiner | That's exactly right. |
| 00:23:07.71 | Carolyn Ford | MR. |
| 00:23:08.40 | Herb Weiner | Yes. We don't want this to be Sausalito idol. With that, and thank you, Rhett. This time here it's public communications and it's time to hear from those who Would like to speak of those things that are matters that are not on the agenda. I have two names. You have a signed sheet. Kate Flavin is the first one I have here. You won't, Kate. |
| 00:23:42.85 | Kate Flavin | I'm Kate Flavin and I live at 129 Prospect. I'm here as Vice President of C. Sausalito Environmental Action. to present the City Council with a petition of About 350 signatures and growing in support of the preservation of the machine shop and the marineship, Although C. Spearheaded the effort, I want to thank John Fidler, Doreen Gounard, Jerry Faith, Sonia Hanson, Jenny Flynn, and Joan Cox for their tremendous help. |
| 00:24:11.11 | Mary Wagner | AND I'M GOING TO BE |
| 00:24:11.20 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 00:24:14.32 | Kate Flavin | We couldn't have done it without them. They were great. I also want to thank the Historic Landmarks Board, particularly Heidi Burns and Carolyn Kiernot for their invaluable input. |
| 00:24:24.82 | Unknown | Thank you. I know. |
| 00:24:26.08 | Herb Weiner | No, you're fine. You're fine. |
| 00:24:26.13 | Kate Flavin | No, you're fine. |
| 00:24:26.96 | Unknown | That's fine. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:24:29.10 | Kate Flavin | . |
| 00:24:29.99 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:24:30.01 | Kate Flavin | Thank you. |
| 00:24:30.08 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:24:30.30 | Kate Flavin | Thank you. |
| 00:24:30.33 | Unknown | and |
| 00:24:30.55 | Kate Flavin | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:24:40.04 | Herb Weiner | And thank you. Jean Fidler. You're on. |
| 00:24:47.11 | Jeanne Fidler | My name is Jeanne Fidler and I live at 5010 Lima Street and I'm also known as Jeanne. |
| 00:24:49.87 | Mary Wagner | Bye. |
| 00:24:49.89 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:24:49.91 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 00:24:49.94 | Herb Weiner | I live at 501. |
| 00:24:55.43 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:24:55.44 | Herb Weiner | out of a bottle. |
| 00:24:55.76 | Jeanne Fidler | And so I wanted to speak to the mayor and the city council members about the closure of City Hall during holidays. |
| 00:24:56.24 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:24:56.25 | Herb Weiner | I'm sorry. |
| 00:24:56.27 | Unknown | I'm not sure. |
| 00:25:03.54 | Jeanne Fidler | I've been here and I've talked about it before. And so the library was closed for seven days during these holidays. And admittedly, they were over the weekends. But this is a community center and the library is a place of comfort for many people. And I want you to consider that in the future. |
| 00:25:22.71 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Thank you. I know. Um, Next one I have is Clay Bell. |
| 00:25:30.71 | Clayton Heddle | Thank you. |
| 00:25:33.78 | Clayton Heddle | I'm Clayton Heddle and I live in a boat here in Sausalito. Herb, can you give me a call? That's my one request. Then, of all the problems of Adrian Sausalito, |
| 00:25:42.39 | Herb Weiner | you. Did you leave me your number? |
| 00:25:46.27 | Clayton Heddle | I have many times, but I email what you know. |
| 00:25:48.73 | Herb Weiner | You called me, you emailed me. |
| 00:25:50.78 | Clayton Heddle | Thank you. Yes, I know. It's an incredible surprise, I know. No, well, you know, I read |
| 00:25:53.15 | Herb Weiner | No, well, you know, I read them, but I don't, I tell people. You don't recall them, my family. Well, no, I... |
| 00:25:56.82 | Clayton Heddle | I tell people. Male Speaker 1 I sent in, it comes back, it's confirmed, I sent in, so you received the e-mail. Male Speaker 2 It's 4 and 5. Male Speaker 2 Why don't you just write down your number? |
| 00:26:02.07 | Mary Wagner | So you were |
| 00:26:02.88 | Herb Weiner | It's all right. Why don't you just write down your number? Yeah. Because I announced it at the beginning, and I'll make that note. |
| 00:26:07.63 | Clayton Heddle | because I, Right there? Yeah. |
| 00:26:13.47 | Clayton Heddle | I know you guys are so important. |
| 00:26:15.63 | Herb Weiner | No. |
| 00:26:18.70 | Clayton Heddle | Five years. Come on, five years of my life, man. |
| 00:26:22.48 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:26:22.50 | Herb Weiner | Okay, come on. |
| 00:26:22.94 | Clayton Heddle | Been profitable for you? Thanks, sir. |
| 00:26:25.27 | Herb Weiner | All right, thank you. |
| 00:26:31.01 | Herb Weiner | The next name I have here is Mike Monsef. Mike, come on up. |
| 00:26:40.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:26:41.21 | Mike Monsef | Mike Monsef, 211 Fort Street. I'm not here to complain about anything. I'm here to thank this gentleman. The other day, I mean, we have a problem with the water under the stairs, and I've been talking about that for a long time. And without telling these people, Mr. Goldman, |
| 00:27:00.57 | Mary Wagner | Join us. |
| 00:27:03.31 | Mike Monsef | And I saw the other day they went over there and started cleaning under the stairs for the drainage because always the water comes in. It's just like a river coming between the Del Monte and next to the steppe, and it's putting a lot of damage in the building. A few years ago, I took the liberty of putting an additional pipe from there to my discharge, which was quite a job to get okay from the engineering department, but I did it and that's |
| 00:27:04.00 | Mary Wagner | I did it. Thank you. |
| 00:27:40.53 | Mike Monsef | after he put all this snake and everything through, the one that Citi has, it doesn't work. It's blocked completely. And the only one that works is the one that I put in. So without telling them for the first time, I don't even know his name, but I have to thank him. Thank you for doing that. |
| 00:28:01.49 | Unknown | I have to thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:28:02.37 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:28:05.94 | Mike Monsef | Thank you. . Thank you. Okay. |
| 00:28:09.64 | Unknown | Thank you, Mike. Picki Nichols? you |
| 00:28:14.75 | Vicki Nichols | Good evening, Mayor Weiner and fellow council members. Happy New Year. I would like to bring something to your attention to see if you might consider it for a future agenda involving smart meters. You've had one discussion so far. On the 4th of January, the Marin County Board of Supervisors adopted a one-year moratorium on installation of smart meters. I quickly ordinance or the resolution, I guess it would be, and I have a copy, but I didn't make copies for everybody. I did it kind of quickly. And in that document, there is a notation about Assemblyman Jared Huffman's bill, AB 37, that's currently in the Assembly, that is asking for, while there will be no opt-out in that bill, there is a choice that people would have. to continue having a wired meter or going with a smart meter. and along the same lines as the Council supporting our marine clean energy, vis-a-vis giving the citizens a choice. I would really like to say strongly that I would personally like to see the Council supporting any efforts that would give the community a choice in this matter And along those lines, I went and did a little research, having worked on the wireless ordinance. I found that Our particular ordinance has some language in it that may have some leverage with the city and PG&E in that it states that Sorry. |
| 00:29:48.83 | Unknown | It's okay. |
| 00:29:49.81 | Vicki Nichols | right on the very first page, and I'm quoting from the Zoning Ordinance Chapter 1045, which deals with wireless communications facilities. And I'm not a lawyer, Mary, so I'm not sure. I may be way off base. But right off the bat it says all wireless communication facilities shall require a conditional use permit and design review approval. So when I went to that, I remember that when we were writing this ordinance, we also did a glossary. And the glossary is not included at the end of the chapter, and I was having trouble finding it, but then I remembered it's at the end of the chapter. And I pulled that because I wanted to see what the city considered a wireless communications facility because that's what it says has to have conditional use permits. So it says, a land use that sends and or receives radio frequency signals including antennas, microwave dishes or horns, structures or towers to support receiving and or transmitting devices, accessory development and structures, and on the land which they are situated. The smart meters will be using transmitters on poles. That's on land. I would, I strongly urge, and I know there are other people in the community that have come and talked to the Council about smart meters, that you explore this. There may be some way to leverage this. um, at least see if we can't slow PG&E down a little bit to see if we can negotiate some choice for the consumers. Thank you. |
| 00:31:16.18 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:31:16.19 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Also keep in mind on these smart meters, if you put a tag on your meter asking them not to remove it, they will not remove it. Well... Well then. |
| 00:31:33.54 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:31:36.60 | Jonathan Leone | Mary, can I ask you a favor? Would you shut that door? |
| 00:31:40.54 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:31:41.02 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:31:41.15 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 00:31:42.30 | Herb Weiner | All right. All right, I think that's it. |
| 00:31:50.10 | Herb Weiner | Okay, I move now for approval of the meeting, minutes of the meeting on November 23rd. |
| 00:31:58.73 | Mike Kelly | you |
| 00:31:59.04 | Jonathan Leone | So moved. |
| 00:32:01.10 | Mike Kelly | So I get... |
| 00:32:02.18 | Herb Weiner | All in favour? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. |
| 00:32:03.49 | Mike Kelly | I see. |
| 00:32:07.26 | Herb Weiner | Approval of the minutes of the regular city council meeting on December 7th, 2010. |
| 00:32:14.58 | Peter Van Meter | So move. |
| 00:32:16.84 | Herb Weiner | I'll move on. |
| 00:32:17.80 | Unknown | Aye. Aye. Can I pose? |
| 00:32:17.96 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:32:18.14 | Unknown | you |
| 00:32:18.21 | Peter Van Meter | Thank you. |
| 00:32:18.38 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:32:29.33 | Unknown | Okay, so... |
| 00:32:30.44 | Unknown | consent. |
| 00:32:30.51 | Unknown | So Thank you. |
| 00:32:33.92 | Unknown | . |
| 00:32:34.64 | Unknown | right here. |
| 00:32:35.08 | Unknown | Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I just said, I could take out. |
| 00:32:39.61 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Okay, we have some items on the consent calendar. Do we have any questions of staff? Thank you. Probably. |
| 00:32:57.04 | Jonathan Leone | No, I'm good. |
| 00:32:58.05 | Herb Weiner | Anybody from the public, has any comments on this consent calendar? |
| 00:33:02.29 | Jonathan Leone | and just describe it. |
| 00:33:03.03 | Unknown | I've got to do this. |
| 00:33:04.28 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 00:33:04.57 | Herb Weiner | Okay, I will. Thank you. Receive and file number one, A is receive and file status report on the codification of the municipal code. adopt resolution authorizing the execution of the Second Amendment to the lease agreement with MPA Leasing Corporation for the old City Hall building, and receiving and file annual board commissions vacancy lists pursuant to the MADI Appointive Lists Act. So, |
| 00:33:39.61 | Jonathan Leone | I'll make a motion to approve his consent calendar as agendized. |
| 00:33:40.58 | Herb Weiner | I'll make emotions. |
| 00:33:45.88 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 00:33:45.91 | Linda Pfeifer | Second. |
| 00:33:47.21 | Herb Weiner | All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Okay. |
| 00:33:48.22 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 00:33:48.24 | Linda Pfeifer | Hi. |
| 00:33:48.78 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 00:33:48.79 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:33:52.10 | Herb Weiner | Moving on. All right, the first item that we have is the housing element update status report. Lily? |
| 00:34:11.05 | Lily | Good. Thank you. Am I on? |
| 00:34:16.99 | Jonathon Goldman | Just tap on it. |
| 00:34:18.55 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:34:18.71 | Jonathon Goldman | Yeah. |
| 00:34:18.97 | Lily | Thank you. |
| 00:34:19.00 | Jonathon Goldman | Your Honor. |
| 00:34:19.42 | Lily | you |
| 00:34:19.47 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 00:34:20.15 | Lily | Good evening, Mr. Mayor and council members. waiting for the presentation to load. |
| 00:34:35.79 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:34:36.01 | Mike Kelly | Really? |
| 00:34:36.75 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:34:36.80 | Mike Kelly | Mmm. |
| 00:34:37.46 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:34:37.49 | Mike Kelly | you |
| 00:34:37.58 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:34:37.65 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:34:37.68 | Herb Weiner | I'm so crying. |
| 00:34:39.00 | Mike Kelly | Charlie's setting that bar pretty high. |
| 00:34:39.01 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:34:42.32 | Herb Weiner | Are the colors for TV, is that it? |
| 00:34:44.65 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:34:48.04 | Lily | So this item is a status update to the council on the ongoing effort to update the city's housing element. |
| 00:34:49.27 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:34:55.43 | Lily | The Housing Element Committee, which is the HEC, began meeting in December 2009 in order to conduct analysis and select policies and recommendations for inclusion in the draft housing element. Once that's been formed, the draft will be forwarded to the Planning Commission for review, and then ultimately the City Council for adoption eventually. The HEC is made up of two council members, two planning commissioners, and five members of the public. Currently, there is one vacant seat on the HEC for the community resident seat. Amen. The last housing element status update was given in July of 2010, and since that time, the HEC has had 12 meetings, and two of those have been special meetings. This report will brief the council on the highlights from those meetings and give an update on the status of the first public workshop. |
| 00:35:50.56 | Lily | Over the course of the 12 meetings from August through yesterday, actually, the HECC has made progress on the housing element update. And there are many accomplishments to report. And I'll briefly highlight some of those accomplishments tonight. First, the committee has received bi-monthly status updates from each subcommittee regarding liveaboards, accessory dwelling units, vacant land potential, and underdeveloped land potential in the city. The committee has also reviewed and is in the process of editing a draft evaluation of the current housing element. And next, in the summer of 2010, a survey was distributed to all property owners in Sausalito regarding accessory dwelling units. And the survey was well received. We received an overall 22% response rate, or about 450 responses we received. The committee has been reviewing these survey results and think that they could prove very helpful in directing policies for inclusion in the housing element update regarding accessory dwelling units. The committee also began planning for the first public workshop during that time between August and up until yesterday. and discuss the content, date, and logistics for that first public workshop. Finally, the committee began working on analyzing the potential number of units in the city that could be built on existing vacant and underdeveloped land. |
| 00:37:23.60 | Lily | Last night on January 10th, actually, the HACC held its first 2011 meeting, and one of the components of discussion was to talk about the public workshop. that HEC would like to have the first workshop focus on an overview of the housing element requirements and an introduction to the housing element committee and then begin a conversation with the community regarding the update of the housing element. The HECC decided to have a meeting at the end of January, a HECC meeting on January 31st, to discuss the workshop agenda format and noticing procedures. Staff would then update the City Council on February 1st, the day after, regarding the workshop and ask for council direction on proceeding with the workshop. The HECC hopes to hold the first workshop during the later part of February on a Saturday morning. |
| 00:38:22.61 | Lily | Staff is recommending that the council provide any direction as appropriate. And that concludes our status update on the housing element. And we're available for any questions you may have. |
| 00:38:37.71 | Jonathan Leone | Lily, as far as the actual written document you gave us, |
| 00:38:38.76 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:38:38.81 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:38:38.86 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:38:38.88 | Mary Wagner | . |
| 00:38:42.22 | Jonathan Leone | some updates of where the last draft was in July. So there hasn't been any movement on any of the other subsections since then. |
| 00:38:51.21 | Lily | The committee decided to form these subcommittees to do portions of the data analysis for the site inventory chapter. So the committee has been working on that portion. Once those technical studies have been submitted, then we'll take those technical studies and work on the site inventory and analysis section. The committee also was working on the draft evaluation chapter. So that is one chapter that they're currently working on right now. |
| 00:39:20.98 | Unknown | Okay. Any other questions? |
| 00:39:26.06 | Herb Weiner | Okay, thank you. |
| 00:39:27.36 | Lily | Thank you. |
| 00:39:28.07 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. At this time here, is there any public comment on this item? Having none, we'll bring it back up to the council. |
| 00:39:43.09 | Mike Kelly | Um, |
| 00:39:43.61 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:39:43.74 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:39:43.88 | Herb Weiner | I'll remember Kelly. |
| 00:39:45.60 | Mike Kelly | There are, we met last night as Lily said, And we did not have a quorum. In fact, there were only one member of the public, one citizen member there and Linda and I. Thank you. Our first thing that we're going to do is energize the attendance. And with that in mind, we need to fill the other vacancy that's out there. So can you help us with that? So we have a full complement of folks to show up. Um, Thank you. the the um |
| 00:40:27.28 | Mike Kelly | The other thing that I propose, and I think I'll let Linda speak for herself, but that we get the writing of this element into staff and have staff writing the elephant, the elephant, it is an elephant, a large elephant, writing the element and bringing it to the committee for study and recommendation as well as using the committee to implement the various gathering of information and other tasks that are necessary to pull the whole thing together from an informational standpoint. So I think we should proceed in that direction. The staff will provide the scope and the roadmap, and they will be bringing back on the 31st that roadmap to get us to an endgame. It won't have dates on it at that point, but subsequently we'll try to put a timeline on it. And then I think the most important thing, based on what I've been reading and watching in Novato, is that they got the cart and the horse in the wrong direction and ended up with a huge amount of people yelling at them, which is similar to what happened to us in 2006. So I think to avoid that, and this is what we'll do on the 31st, we'll come up with an agenda for that meeting. And this will be kind of the kickoff meeting from the public's point of view where we really go back to the basics and the basic elements and describe what it is we are required to do, what we think we can do, and give the public the first sort of understanding that this is how we're going to be proceeding and then welcome public input then and as we go forward at several different. And then I think we need to decide how many meetings we're going to have. I would recommend that at least at the first meeting that the council also be there to observe and to not necessarily participate, but to observe and just show a show of strength that this is something that the whole city is going to be involved with as we try to put it together. So I think those are the main things or the takeaway from last night's meeting. |
| 00:40:41.86 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:42:48.15 | Linda Pfeifer | Thanks. |
| 00:42:48.41 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:42:48.42 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:42:48.44 | Unknown | Council member Fyfer. |
| 00:42:50.06 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you, Mayor Weiner. So just to echo what Councilmember Kelly has shared, you did a nice job, Mike, of summarizing what the key outcomes and decisions were from the Housing Element Committee. last night. I think perhaps one reason for the low attendance may have been it was the first meeting after the holidays, but I know we had that meeting nine days before Christmas and we did have a quorum, which was nice. But all in all, I agree we need to fill that vacancy. And I think the most important thing is to Uh, for council support for the first public workshop. at the end of February, as Lily had mentioned. And, um, You'll recall, the council will recall that the Housing Element Committee had initially wanted to do a public workshop, you know, in the fall of 2010. So that's why I think it's really a good idea to move, you know, quickly on this. We've sent out the surveys. Everybody has completed the surveys, as Lily reported. And so there's a lot of momentum, I think, in the community around this topic. And so, yeah, and with respect to Novato, Mike was referring to an article that I had found, and we passed it out at the meeting last night, where citizens in Novato organized a petition for their city council to get this, you know, a public workshop on the topic of the housing element. So that's why I think public outreach is so critical on this. |
| 00:44:40.27 | Herb Weiner | Council Member Leon. |
| 00:44:42.50 | Jonathan Leone | Well, so maybe I'll be a little bit more direct. I think that it's time to start over with this myself. I think the housing opportunities, which is really the nut and bolt of the housing element that will go over the state, is, myth, what we have put together so far at the Housing A-Owning Committee in terms of its ability to be approved. So I think it's not realistic is probably a better way to phrase it. So I would, if you hold a public workshop, I think it should be conducted by the staff about the general topic of affordable housing and how you meet these targets, what the targets mean, what the various price points of what is affordable and what's not. It should be educating the public rather than putting forward a solution set because I think our solution set is lacking. And I've said this before in our discussions on this item. I think where you don't want to end up is what the county just went through where it had the federal government basically. Threaten to soil. And they had to scramble to say we're going to do a lot of things in a very short period of time. and that's because they get federal money for housing, but that's an example where you don't want to fool around with this stuff and try to play games. And I think we've been playing games at the committee level with trying to sort of game the system. And while certainly mixed use and apartment conversions and accessory dwelling units, the assessment we dwell into is state law, so that's nothing. We're not going out on any limbs with that. So I think that you're not going to get the impact, which from both from a moral perspective and from a, your ability to have your housing at one approved by what has been undertaken so far, under a great deal of work and time. Um, So I would voice that the whole process be revisited, that it be run by the staff, not by and through the committee as an advisory function, rather than the committee dictating the role of staff to do. And because I think that, again, as you said, to take your analogy to the process, the process we've had is that the CART got ahead of the force here, and what we can effectively do and have approved has gotten lost in the shuffle. So whether that means, and again, to be direct, different people on the housing on the committee, of all shapes and sizes and the different how the process is run. I think we need to just slow down here. We haven't gotten anywhere in well over a year in reality. The surveys are nice. I think you've got some reasonable participation, but I don't think at the end of the day they're going to hold a lot of water with the state. So I think that this is, and certainly the live aboard concept is a dangerous one, which I've said many times. Yes, you have. |
| 00:47:46.62 | Carolyn Ford | this year. |
| 00:47:49.20 | Jonathan Leone | I think we really need to step back, look at our existing housing element, which had almost which was approved, which some things happened, some things didn't, but it was approved by the state. None of those are being proposed so far. And they're things that are reasonable. So I think we need to just... Sometimes you have to step back and say, wait, this is gone. The wrong direction. I think this is one. |
| 00:48:13.39 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:48:13.42 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:48:13.43 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:48:13.49 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:48:13.54 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:48:16.69 | Herb Weiner | . One other thing, I went to that meeting last night I'm not allowed to say anything, I went to that meeting. What disturbed me a little bit was that there was only one Remember there. And my question was, did any of the other members call in to say that they weren't coming in? Do we know it all? Are they Lily? |
| 00:48:37.20 | Unknown | Lily. |
| 00:48:38.60 | Lily | Thank you. I think we have received one or two. I can't remember if one committee member had said no. But definitely one, possibly two. |
| 00:48:45.77 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:48:49.41 | Unknown | Okay. Well, |
| 00:48:51.18 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:48:58.49 | Herb Weiner | So any public comment on this item? Oh, we did. |
| 00:49:02.36 | Unknown | We did. |
| 00:49:03.71 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:49:03.81 | Mike Kelly | Right. |
| 00:49:03.82 | Unknown | We're over. |
| 00:49:04.01 | Herb Weiner | Okay, I'm learning. |
| 00:49:04.28 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:49:06.69 | Mike Kelly | Let me just respond to what Jonathan said. It would be my view that staff runs the whole show, and the committee is there to assist staff because staff has experience in writing these plans, and they're really responsible at the end of the day. So the committee probably should be shaken up a little bit and maybe change the hierarchy of the committee. It might do well that Linda and I step aside and sort of sit in the corner because council members being there can really influence what gets said and what doesn't get said and let maybe one of the members of the committee actually chair the thing. But Linda and I can talk about that as we go through. But we thought at the first meeting we would have staff be in charge of that meeting. We thought about suggesting, and we'll talk more about this, but bringing a facilitator in. There's a guy named Jeff Baer. He's one example. He actually helps write these plans. And he did San Anselmo's, I think, and maybe one other one. Did he do Belvederes? Which apparently is a plan that looks like it's going to get approved. It's got the right elements and so on. So we'll check that out and see what those costs are in one thing or another. But sometimes it helps also to have a facilitator, you know, so the The focus is not on the speaker from the city. So I think we're doing just what you said, reorganizing this and putting it on a different track and come up with something that we can eventually get through the state and get approved. |
| 00:50:54.86 | Herb Weiner | Council Member I have. |
| 00:50:57.46 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. So I want to stress again, I'm glad everybody's on the same page with respect to the public workshop for the community workshop in February. I think that the members, well I know the members of the of the Housing Element Committee have been working very hard. There have been meetings with ABAG, HCD in Sacramento, as well as BCDC. in San Francisco. And there, you know, we've never limited the scope of what we were looking on, looking at with respect to solutions. We are still in data gathering mode and it still is early days. Thank you. Said that, I will say that what I feel the Housing Element Committee members are very about is that Sausalito has not had a certified housing element since 1995. And so for the first time since 1995, we have some real momentum moving towards solution. And I really think we're going to get there, and I think we're going to get there next |
| 00:52:16.32 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:52:17.45 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:52:17.48 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 00:52:17.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:52:18.12 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 00:52:18.17 | Unknown | All right. |
| 00:52:18.44 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. I would still want this to come back with some specifics. You know, speaking up here at the platitude level, it's that we've danced around this thing for too long and put up with a lot of, you know, |
| 00:52:20.35 | Unknown | I was a member of the U.S. |
| 00:52:34.66 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. Last night we tasked Jeremy and Lily with that to come back with a road map. |
| 00:52:36.52 | Jonathan Leone | a glass of detail. back with a roadmap. So I would then make it a resolution and if you come back in the next meeting that how the committee is going to be restructured from a who runs what, who runs the meetings, who does the writing, you know, and bring it back here and we'll vote on it because the committee serves at the pleasure of the council and so let's get this on the right track so this year we can try to complete this. Can we put that on the… |
| 00:53:02.15 | Unknown | Council Thank you. |
| 00:53:07.26 | Mike Kelly | Can we put that on the February meeting, the first February meeting? That's fine. Because that will give us time to meet on the 31st and finalize it and bring it back here. |
| 00:53:11.57 | Jonathan Leone | of. |
| 00:53:15.35 | Jonathan Leone | That's fine, but certainly well ahead of your |
| 00:53:15.57 | Mike Kelly | FUN. Thank you. |
| 00:53:17.29 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah, we're cool. |
| 00:53:17.30 | Mike Kelly | Yeah, one of the other words. |
| 00:53:18.08 | Linda Pfeifer | And I know that the, oh, Mayor Weiner, may I speak? And I know that the Housing Element Committee as well has been very supportive of having staff facilitate the community workshop. |
| 00:53:22.86 | Jonathan Leone | I know. |
| 00:53:33.42 | Linda Pfeifer | And we're also very, again, hopeful that we'll, you know, get council consensus on moving forward with the public outreach because that's critical. |
| 00:53:42.73 | Herb Weiner | All right, good. So we'll bring this back in February. All right. Thank you. |
| 00:53:48.62 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:53:48.64 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:53:50.01 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, Lily. Next item we have is the Plaza of Vina del Mar Historic Evaluation Status Report from Heidi Burns. |
| 00:53:59.84 | Unknown | Good evening, Mayor Weiner, members of the City Council. |
| 00:54:00.35 | Mary Wagner | Mayor Weiner. |
| 00:54:03.96 | Unknown | I'll wait until the presentation pops up. |
| 00:54:09.48 | Herb Weiner | We don't have commercials yet for our television, but we're working on it. |
| 00:54:13.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:54:15.05 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you, Debbie. The purpose of this item tonight is to provide a status update on the Plaza of Vina Del Mar accessibility project. This presentation is for information purposes only and no action is being required by the City Council this evening. Discussion regarding this project last left off on July 27th of last year when the City Council directed staff to provide the following items. One is to analyze the historical resource impacts associated with the plaza. The second item would be to analyze environmental impacts. Third would be to evaluate legal issues associated with the project alternatives. The two project alternatives that were identified would be the ramp with the path, which was the original project that was presented before a joint Historic Landmarks Board Planning Commission meeting. And the second alternative would be a no-landing alternative. And the last would be a recommendation on which alternative would be most feasible. Staff action to date is that a request for a proposal was prepared and solicited to consultants, architectural historian consultants within the Bay Area. Two proposals were received by the city. There was a committee that was compiled that consisted of city staff that reviewed these proposals and it was determined that one proposal stood out and that would be the Page and Turnbull proposal that's attached to the staff report. Page and Turnbull was chosen unanimously based on the cost of the proposal. the fact that they are qualified to conduct the work and that they provided a more consistent response to the proposal that was sent out. The city manager has signed a professional services agreement with Page and Turnbull, and Page and Turnbull has begun work starting this week. And a meeting is to be scheduled this Friday to kick off the historical resource evaluation. Before staff comes back to the City Council with another update, the following items will be prepared. One would be that the historic resources evaluation would be completed, and just to provide background on what the content of the historical resource evaluation report would include. It would basically be an analysis of what makes Plaza Viña del Mar, historically significant or not significant. It would identify any character defining features that would make the plaza significant. It would also analyze the two alternatives and then provide a recommendation in terms of which alternative appears to be more feasible. And what Page Interble is also providing, which is an extra that wasn't part of the request for proposal, is that they will also identify mitigation measures which may be incorporated into a future environmental document, which is very helpful. Staff will also prepare a legal analysis of both project alternatives regarding Ordinance 1128, as well as the settlement agreement. and also prepare a construction cost estimate on the project alternatives. Once staff has that information, we'll, again, come back to the City Council, and we would be seeking direction from the City Council acting as property owner of the plaza regarding the selection of which project alternative. would be best. Staff would then arrange the preparation of an appropriate environmental review document. That would be determined based on the contents of the historical resource evaluation report. We would then schedule a Joint Planning Commission Historic Landmarks Board meeting for a design review permit, depending on what happens at the Planning Commission and the Historic Landmarks Board. If the project gets approved and no appeals are filed, then the City Council would not review the project. However, if an appeal is filed, then the project would return to the City Council for action on the design review permit. So with that, I will conclude my presentation and I'm available to answer any questions you may have. |
| 00:58:16.70 | Mike Kelly | Page and Turnbull, I have the highest regard for them, so I think it's a very good choice. And they have done a significant number of these reviews in San Francisco, just a ton of them actually. So they're quite good, and I think it'll help a lot. The second question was, A couple of citizens got into a sort of a letter writing process a little earlier, and they were, one of them in particular had a considerable amount of research that was done on his own recognizance, so to speak. Did you get that over to Page and Turnbull? Did they get that information? |
| 00:58:54.99 | Unknown | Patient Trimble will be given Mm-hmm. the majority of the information that has been given to city staff. Thank you. |
| 00:59:01.86 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:59:02.13 | Unknown | So there are a few citizens of Sausalito that have prepared a lot of information that's been passed on to staff and that information will be utilized. A lot of that information can also be found upstairs in the Historical Society. |
| 00:59:07.46 | Unknown | and so, |
| 00:59:13.59 | Unknown | At this kickoff meeting that we will be having, that's where the actual transfer of the hard copies will be. Okay, good. Sended off to Peyton Turnbull. |
| 00:59:19.58 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:59:19.59 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:59:19.61 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:59:19.64 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:59:19.66 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Council Member Leon. |
| 00:59:25.18 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:59:25.28 | Linda Pfeifer | Bye. |
| 00:59:26.60 | Jonathan Leone | So Heidi, two questions for you. In their budget proposal, |
| 00:59:28.93 | Kent Basso | Um, |
| 00:59:34.80 | Jonathan Leone | I'm not sure if we directed staff to do the second piece, this Project Impacts and Alternative Analysis. I thought the idea was just to evaluate the historic resource. |
| 00:59:41.43 | Mary Wagner | Yes. |
| 00:59:49.07 | Jonathan Leone | Is that what staff has been proceeding? I mean, obviously, the city manager can approve it under the dollar value. He can do whatever he wants. I wasn't aware this was the scope of what we were asking the staff to look into. Secondly, is this the staffing that Page and Turnbull is proposing to use these three folks that are in the back? Obviously that's a problem. Okay, you can't have a sitting member of a board commission doing work for the city. So whether it's just however qualified, it's just... |
| 01:00:21.78 | Mary Wagner | whether they're going to be a |
| 01:00:27.16 | Jonathan Leone | It's not arm's length. So even if it's just appearance sake. So that's, in my mind, that's not appropriate. I have the highest respect for her, but I don't think that's appropriate. So I think you have to reshuffle that team to just, you know, we shouldn't be awarding. to people who serve on boards and commissions, whether it's legally permissible or not. in my personal opinion. It just raises impressions. It's a very respected firm. It's a large firm. They can find somebody else. They can find someone else doing the project. I think I agree with that. I'd rather have her expertise on the other side helping us make sure her own firm does a good job than to have her running her |
| 01:01:00.74 | Mike Kelly | They can find somebody else. They can find someone else, too. Thank you. |
| 01:01:14.93 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:01:16.55 | Jonathan Leone | the project for the city. I think that's just for, even if it's just for appearance's sake, we should have a church and state on contracts like that. But, you know, getting back to the project impacts, is that, are you asking them to come up with alternatives as well as looking at the two alternatives that were put forward to them? |
| 01:01:38.90 | Unknown | No, we aren't asking for that. That's something that both consultants in submitting their proposals included that as optional items. You know, when staff was reviewing the various minutes related to the city council meetings and trying to figure out what this historic resource evaluation should include, we did identify in the request for proposal that we would be requesting an analysis of the two alternatives so we can determine which project would be less impacted to the site if it is determined the site is historically significant. And I think that the... So that's the second... |
| 01:02:14.20 | Jonathan Leone | So that's the second piece. And then the third piece is this optional, well, here's some other things you might |
| 01:02:15.28 | Unknown | Thank you. That's it. Exactly. If they're finding that both alternatives are going to be disastrous, then there is this opportunity to provide another solution. |
| 01:02:28.22 | Jonathan Leone | Hopefully we won't get to that. |
| 01:02:30.03 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:02:30.06 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 01:02:30.13 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 01:02:30.57 | Unknown | you |
| 01:02:30.80 | Carolyn Ford | Right. |
| 01:02:31.02 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:02:31.04 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:02:31.49 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:02:31.51 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:02:31.53 | Unknown | Okay, I |
| 01:02:31.97 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Any other questions? Tom? |
| 01:02:34.09 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:02:34.13 | Carolyn Ford | you |
| 01:02:34.31 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you, Heidi. At this time here, do we have any public comment on this item? I hope. |
| 01:02:45.20 | Michael Racks | Hello, I'm Michael Racks, local architect. And first of all, I want to thank the city council for delaying moving this project forward as originally planned so there's an opportunity to look at alternative solutions to provide ADA access to the park and keeping the park open. And I also think it's, I appreciate the help of getting a historic specialist to consider some of the cogent questions. I wonder if Paige and Turnbull would be receiving any of the background public input that occurred during the hearings, because there was a public workshop and there was a lot of points of view that might help them. |
| 01:03:39.25 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 01:03:39.30 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:03:39.92 | Mike Kelly | That was my point. |
| 01:03:40.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:03:40.07 | Michael Racks | Right. |
| 01:03:40.60 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:03:40.63 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 01:03:40.65 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:03:40.67 | Michael Racks | That was my point. |
| 01:03:41.32 | Mike Kelly | actually |
| 01:03:41.46 | Jonathan Leone | actually. |
| 01:03:41.80 | Michael Racks | That would be great. |
| 01:03:41.86 | Jonathan Leone | Not just Bill Warner's letter but other stuff. All of it will go. All the employees. |
| 01:03:43.91 | Michael Racks | stuff all that will go. All the employees. What's in the record since the project was being proposed. That would be great because I think there's some good stuff from the public there. The last thing, there's a kickoff meeting. Is that open to the public? |
| 01:03:47.09 | Jonathan Leone | Right. |
| 01:04:02.15 | Mary Wagner | It's a staff level meeting. It's not an open meeting under the Brown Act. |
| 01:04:04.88 | Michael Racks | I mean, I see. Okay. Thanks for making this happen. |
| 01:04:08.16 | Mary Wagner | THANK YOU. |
| 01:04:08.34 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:04:08.48 | Mary Wagner | Thanks. |
| 01:04:10.57 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, Michael. Okay. Okay. Any other comments from the public? |
| 01:04:20.37 | Mike Monsef | Actually, that's the reason I came here, but then the other one was additional. |
| 01:04:24.88 | Herb Weiner | Oh, I thought you came just to see my first meeting. |
| 01:04:26.55 | Mike Monsef | I appreciate it. Oh, is it? I'm here because I heard in the streets that they're talking about some of the members in the council talking about closing the park. I guess Michael Racks was there when we tried really hard to get this park open. And there were a bunch of people over there with blackhead, you know, don't open it. The hippies are coming. I said, I am the goddamn hippie. What are you talking about? So. You really cleaned yourself up. Exactly, exactly. So that's, and also, when I was in historical landmark port, late Marion Sears and I, we talked a lot about this issue of handicap approach to it, and I don't know if the, |
| 01:04:55.56 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 01:04:56.97 | Jonathan Leone | You really cleaned yourself up. |
| 01:05:17.04 | Mike Monsef | She's, I mean, you have to say, there was one proposal that it was very reasonable as far as the cost goes, and that was the first one that came through. They don't have to disturb the historical value of that wall or whatever it is. And, uh, I don't know whether that's up anywhere anybody has it because I remember Marianne Sears had it and she was pushing for it. whether that's already been discussed or not. So I'm just putting it to you. It is? Yeah. So if it's been going on for quite a long time, this issue. And that proposal was quite reasonable to do. I don't know what happened to it. |
| 01:05:53.39 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:05:53.91 | Mary Wagner | I'm- |
| 01:05:54.28 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:05:54.40 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 01:05:55.63 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:05:55.67 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 01:05:56.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:06:09.30 | Herb Weiner | All right. |
| 01:06:09.72 | Mike Monsef | Thank you. |
| 01:06:10.09 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, mate. Vicki. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:06:18.36 | Vicki Nichols | Vicki Nichols, the she I think Mike was talking about. Just to answer the question, the proposal that you're looking at was known as the Leffingwell proposal, and that's what Mike looked at with us when he was on the Landmarks Board with us. So that is the proposal, Mike, that's being looked at that you're looking at. There's two. Well, there's two, but that was the original one with the ramp thing. So that's the same one. |
| 01:06:37.62 | Mary Wagner | whether it's not. |
| 01:06:42.66 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Anyone else? Heidi, can I have you come up and Tell us about the two proposals that we do have. |
| 01:06:52.11 | Unknown | Sure. I didn't prepare a slide for that. But the two proposals that we currently have would be a ramp that would be constructed off of El Portal that would lead up to the upper landing of the plaza. And then there would be concrete paths that would start at El |
| 01:06:52.70 | Herb Weiner | Okay, thank you. Sorry. |
| 01:07:09.53 | Unknown | and lead around the fountain. So that's considered to be the ramp with paths. And then the second alternative is to actually remove the landing associated with the plaza and create a level access point from Bridgeway to the fountain. |
| 01:07:27.80 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. I'll just bring it back up here. No. |
| 01:07:34.20 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:07:37.88 | Herb Weiner | Any other comments from the public? We're going to bring it back up here. any input. |
| 01:07:46.32 | Jonathan Leone | I just think what I said earlier, sorry if I'm repeating, just get the right set of folks at Turnbull and Paystrupull and |
| 01:07:48.66 | Herb Weiner | Gotcha. |
| 01:07:49.24 | Carolyn Ford | is. |
| 01:07:56.96 | Jonathan Leone | Mike is, and also they can look at the material. I think part of looking at the alternatives is looking at the materials involved. I think crushed granite or whatever is also an alternative versus or some other. Concrete. Concrete and the walk doesn't circle the entire fountain because you can't get behind the whole thing. |
| 01:07:57.62 | Mary Wagner | It does. |
| 01:08:08.84 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:08:09.03 | Unknown | concrete. Thank you. |
| 01:08:18.04 | Jonathan Leone | um But so I think they're too bad. And the council did vote in. I don't know when it was. |
| 01:08:21.67 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 01:08:21.77 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:08:21.82 | Mary Wagner | of this. |
| 01:08:24.81 | Jonathan Leone | June or... sometimes and not do the closed park alternative. So we're just evaluating two alternatives. One, lowering the, getting rid of, basically getting rid of the steps. |
| 01:08:29.97 | Unknown | to the future. you |
| 01:08:35.40 | Jonathan Leone | or two, the ramp coming off of El Portel through the gap that's there already in the wall. |
| 01:08:42.81 | Linda Pfeifer | I do actually just have one point of clarification. I know that when we last discussed this, we were |
| 01:08:43.27 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:08:51.40 | Linda Pfeifer | debating about whether or not the settlement, the phrasing of the legal settlement said that 88 access was required to the fountain, but there was some debate about whether or not the path had to be around the fountain as well. And so was that question answered? Can it just be to the fountain or does it have to be halfway around? the fountain as well. |
| 01:09:22.47 | Mary Wagner | Just for clarification, Page and Turnbull is going to be looking at the historic nature of the |
| 01:09:23.38 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:09:23.41 | Linda Pfeifer | Mary. |
| 01:09:29.17 | Mary Wagner | you |
| 01:09:29.20 | Unknown | Bill. |
| 01:09:29.71 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. portions of the park that are proposed to be modified to provide ADA access. They aren't being asked to provide an analysis of accessibility. That was done by the engineer who prepared the ramp and path plan. So the question arose of whether or not the path had to go all the way around. The answer from that, the person who prepared the plan, was that it met ADA standards. I believe we have the list of those questions that were asked at that council meeting that we'll be prepared to address. But the scope of work for Page and Turnbull is limited to an analysis of the historic nature of the elements of the park that are proposed to be modified by the two alternatives, and that's the limit of what they've been asked to do at this point. The other questions will of course be analyzed most likely not by Page and Turnbull, but will be brought back as a package to the Council and when we move forward to the next steps on this project. |
| 01:10:36.08 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you, Mary. |
| 01:10:37.38 | Herb Weiner | Any other questions? Well, since it's just for information only on this item, no actions required. So we'll close that item, and we'll move up to the next item, which is the status update of the Sausalito Yard Harbor bulkhead project, and that will be Mary Wagner or Charlie. |
| 01:10:59.38 | Unknown | . |
| 01:11:00.48 | Herb Weiner | Sorry, Charlie. |
| 01:11:01.64 | Adam Politzer | Good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of the City Council. City Council knows discussions, although discussions of replacement of the bulkhead have been going on since 2003. In June of 2010, the Director of Public Works brought forward an agenda item that outlined the condition of the bulkhead and the urgent need for repair. As a consequence of that agenda item, the OMIT and the city manager directed staff to form a team within the city staff to explore all the available options to repair the bulkhead during the 2011 so that by the storm season of 2011-12, the bulkhead would be in a condition to be able to weather that storm. One of the first... Yes, sir. |
| 01:11:02.81 | Herb Weiner | and members of the city council. |
| 01:11:51.49 | Adam Politzer | No. |
| 01:11:51.53 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:11:52.10 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 01:11:53.33 | Adam Politzer | So during the... This is an older presentation. That's an older presentation, sir. You can call me sir. So during that period between June and September, staff explored all available financing options and working with an economic consultant that's a specialist in waterfront and marina economics, Kaiser Marston, we explored cash, we explored borrowing, we explored innovative financing methods including lease extensions. And it was determined by and opined by the Kaiser Marston that the most efficient way for the city to utilize its resources to effectuate construction of the bulkhead would be a lease extension under certain terms and conditions. We brought those lease terms and conditions to the City Council at a September 28th meeting and the main deal points. And in summary, they were that the Sausalito Yacht Harbor in return for an extension of their lease to 50 years would be, and in that case it would only be 20 years on the least part and an extension of their lease to 50 years would be, and in that case it would only be 20 years on the lease part and an extension of 34 years on the settlement agreement part, would at the same terms and condition of paying rent to the city, totaling $11 million over the 50 years, that they would pay us upfront half of the cost of the construction of the bulkhead, which is estimated to be $5 million, so they would pay $2.5 million. |
| 01:11:59.46 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:11:59.47 | Unknown | I think I'll miss it. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:13:22.35 | Adam Politzer | In addition, the Sausalito Yacht Harbor agreed to finance a major portion of the city's half of the share of the bulkhead at less than current market interest rates. So September 28th, City Council directed staff to put together the draft lease agreement, the draft settlement agreement, and then in December authorized the Public Works Director to put the construction project out to bid on the condition that we couldn't award the bid until after the lease agreement was finalized. So tonight agenda item is to update the City Council and the public on the lease terms and conditions, the settlement agreement terms and conditions, and also on the construction progress and the construction timeline. So I just wanted to introduce that project to you since September I've been the one who had been helping lead this team to this point. So, Jonathan, would you like, or is Mary next? |
| 01:14:23.84 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:14:24.26 | Adam Politzer | Okay, so of course, this first part of the presentation I'll be available to answer questions at the end of the presentation. |
| 01:14:31.62 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, Charlie. |
| 01:14:37.68 | Mary Wagner | So as Charlie indicated, we've been working toward the amendments to both the 1975 agreement and the lease agreement and having discussions with the representatives from Sausalito Yacht Harbor. This slide is potentially familiar with one of the ones you looked at in September. Depicts the area which is the subject of the lease. So it's the city property which is being leased to Sausalito Yacht Harbor. And then the area in pink depicts the area which is subject to the 1975 agreement, which is also being utilized by the Yacht Harbor pursuant to the terms of that agreement. |
| 01:14:37.81 | Adam Politzer | So, |
| 01:15:18.24 | Mary Wagner | This 1975 agreement provided that the Saucyut Yacht Harbor had the right to utilize those portions of Channel, Dolphin, Ensign, Johnson, and Donahue. for a period that runs until 2027 and that they would pay the city 5% of the gross annual rental received by the Yacht Harbor for any boats that are birthed in those areas. The settlement agreement also deals with the pay parking which is located along Humboldt and indicates that the city installed that and has the right under that agreement to utilize it. The 1992 lease runs under its terms until 2041. There are three unilateral options to extend that the Yacht Harbor can exercise. In terms of the rent for the period that we're in right now, essentially the Yacht Harbor pays 25% of the annual gross receipts from boat births and pay parking on the city-owned property, and then 5% of the annual gross receipts from boatyard activities. The lease does provide a formula for the computation of fair market rent for the period after, 2029, we've dealt with this fair market dueling appraisal rent provisions and other circumstances, and they've been found to be somewhat convoluted and often problematic. The lease, in addition, provides that the city is obligated to maintain and repair the existing bulkheads. As Charlie indicated in his introduction there, The proposed amendments will extend the term of both agreements to 2061. maintaining the current payment schedule or structures, that's the 5% under the settlement agreement and the 25% under the lease agreement. and that the city and the Yacht Harbor will share equally the costs of the replacement of the bulkhead. As you can see, the green line there just depicts the scope of the repair project or the replacement project. and then there's another one here that shows it in plan form. As you can see, it runs all the way down to the Spinnaker. Charlie also mentioned that the way in which this is going to be paid for is we're going to establish an escrow. The city is going to contribute a million dollars up front to that. The Sausalito Yacht Harbor will contribute the remaining amount that's necessary to cover the construction costs. Then the city's repayment, if you will, will be structured as a rent credit. So we will determine the total construction cost after completion that will include construction management costs, take away the million that we've put up already, then we will spread that over a 25-year period, and as Charlie indicated, that's subject to a 5% annual escalator. As the council's aware, Saucedo Yacht Harbor has already entered into a letter agreement to pay for half of the costs that we've incurred to date for project management and engineering fees, and they've deposited those funds with the city, and we've been able to utilize those to pay half of those costs. Next steps will be to finalize the draft documents, and then we'll return to council for consideration in open session. We're anticipating that that's going to be on January 25th. The important point to note is that we're in agreement on all the major points with Sausalito Yacht Harbor, and we're just in the process of dotting the I's, crossing the T's, and flushing those issues out. And with that, I'll turn it over to your Public Works Director. And I'm also, of course, available for any questions you may have. |
| 01:19:26.10 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. Jonathan Goldman again. Just a brief status report on the construction or delivery of the project from our perspective. As Council is aware, permit conditions require that construction activities occur within specified and limited time periods to limit impacts to the bay and plant and animal species. To allow work to be done within these time periods, within this next calendar year, Council authorized us to invite bids at its November 23, 2010 meeting and also approved a consulting contract with Riedinger Consulting for pre-bid construction management services. The last meeting of last calendar year, council also approved a contract amendment for noble consultants to allow them to more actively participate in our pre-bid process. As the city attorney has indicated in the staff report, at this point we expect to open bids on or about Friday, January 21, 2011, and recommend award at Council's first meeting in February. That's February 1, if I'm not mistaken. |
| 01:20:16.38 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:20:16.49 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 01:20:16.51 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:20:16.54 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 01:20:38.87 | Jonathon Goldman | Another picture depicting an oblique view of the extent of the replacement project. Spinnaker Restaurant is here. Ferry Landing and the ferry lanes here. The Peninsula, Gabrielson Park. This entire length of the bulkhead is going to be replaced as part of this project. |
| 01:20:42.58 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:21:03.83 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. City Attorney also already indicated that we're continuing to develop the agreements necessary for project delivery and indicated that those will be in place before we ask council to award the construction contract. Staff is actively coordinating this project with the Priority 1B sewer Spinnaker anchor project which is immediately adjacent. and so I'll say to you, Yon Harbor will begin coordination with tenants, slips, buildings, and Spinnaker restaurant on the schedule for construction once the project is awarded. We are requiring that the contractor, as part of our bid documents, minimize the magnitude and duration of any interruption in use of the slips, any businesses, anything of that nature. We have a preliminary project schedule. This is probably a little bit hard to read. I've provided copies of this in Council's staff report and certainly any of this presentation or any of these documents are available to members of the public if somebody's interested. But I did want to at least depict the complexity and the relatively compressed nature of this project. This project or, or this schedule was actually developed some time ago. We have added, for example, during the course of the meeting today, notification milestones so that we're going to obligate the contractor to tell us when businesses might be interrupted, for how many hours, require that the contractor give us and those businesses the opportunity to establish temporary arrangements and things like that. There is a significant amount of out-of-water work which we can begin. These dates are not current, but the sequence is relatively accurate. A significant amount of work that we can do before what we call the fish window opens, and we can do work in the water, including a relatively critical, one of the first items of that fish window elements is a test pile program that will allow us to confirm that the design lengths of the sheet piles that are part of the project are correct. In the event that they aren't, it gives us as early as possible in the project the opportunity to make adjustments to the design so that those can be fabricated and installed before the fish window closes. Let's see. As indicated on the schedule, they're broken up into what are called breakwater sections. The first two of those sections, there's very little uncertainty about what the sheet pile links will require. The second two, breakwater three and four, there's a higher level of uncertainty. But again, we're programmed to address those potential issues and gather that information as quickly as possible Thank you. level of uncertainty, but again, we're programmed to address those issues as those potential issues and gather that information as quickly as possible in the process. There, well, I won't bore you with these details. If members of the council or community have questions about some of the details, feel free to contact me. I'm happy to discuss them at any point in the process. And with that, I'm available to answer questions on project delivery. |
| 01:24:45.60 | Unknown | Thank you, Jonathan. Okay, bring it up here. |
| 01:24:50.61 | Jonathan Leone | has a question, John. Sure. Jonathan, do you |
| 01:24:52.72 | Unknown | God, and use it. Thank you. |
| 01:24:53.97 | Jonathan Leone | and project be completed and I forget what the date of when you can actually touch the water versus when you can't have to stop. Yes. Okay. |
| 01:24:58.95 | Unknown | time frame. Yes. |
| 01:25:07.64 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 01:25:08.62 | Herb Weiner | Any other questions? Any comments from the public on this? |
| 01:25:13.73 | Unknown | Peter |
| 01:25:14.66 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Watch it now. You're on camera now, Peter. |
| 01:25:20.11 | Peter Van Meter | Is it possible to bring up Mary's slide and show that one picture of what's going to be built? |
| 01:25:20.28 | Jonathon Goldman | The meter. |
| 01:25:26.84 | Jonathan Leone | Can you bring that up the head after that show? Now yours is a little farther away. Thank you. |
| 01:25:35.01 | Peter Van Meter | Thank you. |
| 01:25:41.42 | Peter Van Meter | That's what I did. |
| 01:25:47.01 | Peter Van Meter | I guess my comment would be, I don't know if you can make that full say, but |
| 01:25:51.46 | Herb Weiner | We're working on it. |
| 01:25:52.74 | Peter Van Meter | This is one of those things where you kind of just hear about a project and you just sort of assume that certain obvious things would happen. And the most obvious thing to me is you've got a really funny looking shape to this. It's very peculiar. That's probably just an accident of history. and that you're in process of rebuilding something pretty much from scratch, you're renegotiating terms of a lease, this is a time to make it a nice straight line with some aesthetic appeal. I'm just surprised to see, gee, it looks like we're just going to put something new in the same place where the old one was. And there may be very good reasons, but we haven't heard anything about it. It kind of links back to the things we've talked about so many times of piecemeal activities in the downtown area. where little things are being done just independent of each other without an overall view of the term master plan. I know that's scary. And I realize it's too late. this project is going to go out. It's going to be built. But again, the toothpaste is out of the tube. It's really hard to get back in. As far as this project is concerned, I know. But it's too bad to me that there wasn't some maybe discussion of engineering design concepts. Thank you. |
| 01:27:08.40 | Unknown | Thank you, Peter. |
| 01:27:10.02 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. You want to talk about that? Yeah, let's bring it back. |
| 01:27:11.53 | Unknown | Yeah, let's bring it back. |
| 01:27:12.50 | Mike Kelly | First of all, that's an existing condition drawing, right, Jonathan? So that's what exists now, not... |
| 01:27:12.56 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:27:12.60 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 01:27:12.61 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:27:19.19 | Peter Van Meter | to be shown what was going to be built. I don't know if we can add. |
| 01:27:21.29 | Mike Kelly | No, actually if you look at it, it says bulkhead replacement existing conditions. So that would tend to tell me that they've drawn what's there. That's the first thing they do. But what's your comment about the replacement? |
| 01:27:35.68 | Jonathon Goldman | I'm happy to try to address that question. I don't know that we have slides prepared depicting exactly what will be built, but in some ways it doesn't matter. |
| 01:27:46.08 | Mary Wagner | you |
| 01:27:49.81 | Jonathon Goldman | the activity, what we are doing is replacing an existing bulkhead. and we are allowed by our Bay Conservation and Development Commission to do that. but are constrained in the amount of fill that we are allowed to place in the Bay without mitigating for the effects. While I certainly agree with Mr. Van Meter that in the best of all worlds, we could enlarge the peninsula and have straight lines and, God forbid, seawalls and all kinds of other areas, |
| 01:28:11.57 | Unknown | Right. |
| 01:28:11.85 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:28:29.16 | Jonathon Goldman | you know, further attributes. Unfortunately, that would result in adverse environmental impacts. We would be obligated to mitigate for those environmental impacts, and I guarantee you that the project would cost more than what we expect it to cost now. That's why these engineering decisions have been made the way they are. And they were made that way sometime ago. |
| 01:28:55.38 | Jonathan Leone | Jonathan, when was the original permit with BCDC obtained? Some years ago, isn't that correct? |
| 01:29:03.64 | Jonathon Goldman | My recollection is that the original permit for this project was approximately year 2000. |
| 01:29:11.58 | Mike Kelly | somewhere in there. 2000, yeah. It preceded me. |
| 01:29:18.42 | Jonathan Leone | And just to comment on that, thank you, Jonathan, to Peter. So we did try to negotiate for other things, some of which you and Michael would hold dear, like moving this driveway and it's impossible to get anything in this. It's not impossible. You could say no. But given this lease, and I think you're aware of this lease, it's a terrible lease. It's a horrible lease. It's a crazy lease. No one should have ever entered into this. Because all the leverage is on the other side. So the ability to reorient this peninsula or change how many slips are in the |
| 01:29:54.90 | Mary Wagner | Yeah. |
| 01:29:58.58 | Jonathan Leone | Or let it just all go underwater, which it will be in a decade or so. We just don't have the power, unfortunately, in this particular scenario. |
| 01:30:02.02 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 01:30:02.07 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:30:02.33 | Mary Wagner | so |
| 01:30:10.51 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, General. |
| 01:30:11.25 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 01:30:11.30 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:30:11.35 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 01:30:11.37 | Herb Weiner | Dorothy. |
| 01:30:14.88 | Herb Weiner | She had her hand up for us, Mike. |
| 01:30:20.45 | Dorothy Gibson | Dorothy Gibson up on Johnson Street. Thank you. Just listening to Peter, it came into my mind, I thought, Oh, God, you're taking all the romance out of this. |
| 01:30:29.56 | Kate Flavin | Oh, okay. |
| 01:30:33.26 | Dorothy Gibson | the history of this, I remember. I remember a a city council meeting that was held here in the gymnasium when we had the city council meetings down where the city hall was on Bridgeway. And I remember my friend Jean Chamberlain getting up, and I've forgotten the name of the mayor. but we were talking about getting the spinnaker and using it for a library. And then later there was a decision to have a restaurant there and how we're going to split the money between the restaurant and the city. And it went back and forth. And I remember the final vote. And my friend Jean stood up and she says, Mayor, blah, blah, blah, blah, you have just sold our birthright. And it's this kind of thing that I think went on during this whole process of developing the Spinnaker. And the Sausalito Yacht Harbor, the Maddens, had this... the boat building works there. And all along that area are boats that have been in the process of being built and or filling in that area over the years. And I've said to myself as I've stumbled along there in the dark of night, Oh God, why do we have this step here that I almost tripped over? But on the other hand, that's what makes it, that's what I love about Sausalito. We'll put together by bits and pieces, and Frankly, I like it that way. |
| 01:32:07.99 | Herb Weiner | You had to get the steps in there, didn't you, huh, Dorothy? |
| 01:32:11.23 | Unknown | . Thank you. |
| 01:32:12.48 | Michael Racks | Thank you. Hi, I'm Michael Racks. the Harbor and Downtown Action Committee. We spent two years supporting the city's mission to establish a vision downtown and came up with a vision as part of the Imagine Saucedo process. Unfortunately, the city's never taken any action on those recommendations. We don't have any kind of broad Uh, comprehensive plan or vision for downtown so we can understand how we can... as changes occur downtown, how they're coordinated. And without such policy, in place that has public consensus behind it We're continuing to improve our downtown piecemeal. And we're missing opportunities that are tragic. Um, We have a lease. I'm thrilled this bulkhead is being replaced. It's way overdue and sorely needed. But… Right now we have a 16-year lease and when it expires, There's opportunities to get higher public use on this heart of our town. Now we're talking about locking in for another 50 years. And that's a major commitment by the city and it's going to preclude for many, many more years, certainly in all our lifetimes, some opportunities downtown. And we're doing it because we're short $2.5 million, I guess. |
| 01:33:54.61 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 01:33:58.59 | Michael Racks | We might be penny wise and pound foolish. Um, and I think we ought to get more out of it. And I'd like to suggest a few things that I think we should get out of it before this lease is signed. |
| 01:34:11.15 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:34:11.18 | Michael Racks | Thank you. Um, I'll make it real short. Uh, Part of the vision that Harbor and Downtown Action Committee has put together is to link the boardwalk. |
| 01:34:26.45 | Jonathan Leone | Mike. Bring up the other overhead of the streets. you The picture one? The bigger one, yeah. |
| 01:34:39.58 | Jonathan Leone | Yes. You were showing it earlier. |
| 01:34:41.56 | Mike Kelly | is the one you did, one of the color separations. |
| 01:34:55.02 | Jonathan Leone | Sorry, Michael, go ahead. I just want to be able to follow. |
| 01:34:59.39 | Michael Racks | We've talked about linking the boardwalk straight across through here to Gabrielson Park to the ferry landing. We have studies for the North-South Greenway bringing a path through here and it jogs We've also talked about improvements to this bus loading area because it's a tragedy right now and it's embarrassing. in its poor shape. to the If you straighten this up, the views could be terrific. If you go down there and imagine when you're standing here, you'd be looking right down at San Francisco. And when you stand here at Gabrielson Park and look this way, you'd look right at Mount Tam. We have an unfortunate job here because Madnone's this triangle here and they got to roll cars right there. Well, we own this triangle. And there could be some trade-offs before this area gets improved. We could get a better alignment. That seems like a reasonable trade-off. I think that should be worked out before the lease is done. because we'll never get it again. unless we want to wait another 50 years. The other one is... We, uh... Right now the bulkhead It basically stops here, and if you're walking along the north side of the spit, you get dumped into a bunch of parked cars. There's no link. Between this end of the boardwalk and bridgeway, there's no link between that boardwalk, the bulkhead, and the boardwalk. unless you've Try to squeeze around a bunch of cars here. |
| 01:36:31.75 | Mary Wagner | I'm not sure. |
| 01:36:34.43 | Michael Racks | If this is getting improved, that improvement should bring pedestrians down to Humboldt. and to not require that now is short-sighted. Um, So I ask that you do that. Make it part of the plan now so we don't have to wait 50 years. Um, A more visionary goal has been to expand Gabrielson Park along the south side of Of the spit. with a green bell. Right now we have two roads. We have a road, Spinnaker Way, going out on this side. We have another road going on the north side. You don't need two roads to get out to the restaurant. If this Spinnaker Road would be moved over and aligned with this one, You can expand that park all along the coast. Now that's a pretty ambitious thing to do. Um, I'm not suggesting that you slow this project down to include that. But I would like to suggest this, that the least acknowledged Um, the opportunity to explore that further We've had lots of discussions with men over the years, I have to say many of them have been fruitful and cooperative. But at other times it was, we got a lease, don't bother us. So if we don't talk about these things now before we extend this lease from the 16 years to 50, we probably won't be able to talk about it for 50 years. And I think to at least acknowledge some of these changes and a commitment from Madden's now to be willing to have those kind of discussions and explore those possibilities without waiting another 50 years would be worth the words that you could add to the lease. The last one I want to mention is, and maybe you already covered this, from time to time the public has a public advance on portions of man's property. And I sure hope the lease will continue to allow such advance. Thank you. |
| 01:38:48.62 | Herb Weiner | All right. Thank you, Michael. Thank you. Some good points. Okay, any other comments from the public? Let's bring it back up here. your bank. Yeah, so I'll |
| 01:39:02.65 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah, so I'll respond to you, but I was alluding to earlier. So we did, I did, and Mike gave me the benefit of the doubt to try my best to get both, and also your desire to fill in that gap between the lockers and the shore. Okay, that gets back to Jonathan's issue, which is the BCDC fill issue, which would slow the whole thing down. So I think step back. Time me, please, because I'll go on on this one. This is a horrible scenario. And the reality is if they wanted to, Perhaps. they could make a case that they could just go get it fixed and send us a bill. That's the way this lease is phrased. It's terrible. I don't know if that's legally totally unchallengeable, but that's a risk. So that's what they've held over the city's head, $5 million, or I'll just send you a bill. Also, in terms of your thing on Humboldt, they claim they own that land, not the city. The city just has the right to have parked cars on it. Okay, this is all part of this. It's a huge mess. And it should never have allowed to fester as it has. for so many years and you're right, it shouldn't be, shouldn't kick the can down 50 years further. and extending Gabrielson Park or even the right to do so. No, they won't do it. Getting rid of two driveways, what a waste of land for the amount of activity, the amount of traffic that goes down those two, especially their driveway, the water. No. Okay. Who owns what? Whatever it is, we're not gonna decide what it is. And that's no slight to the council members, but sometimes we negotiate with somebody who holds the whole deck of cards Um, you're ending up getting a raw deal at the end of the day. and that's the scenario here. They're fine people. They just, they know they hold a deck of cards. In my opinion, you're right. You shouldn't agree to do this. In reality, somebody has a proverbial gun to your head. So what do you do? Do something you know is bad? It's a bad deal. It's not as bad as it could be. but it's still not a great deal for the city and the people who live here. And that's why we don't, you shouldn't enter into these type of contracts anymore. That's the sweetheart days, oh, I know you, and we should do great things together, and everything will work out in the end. That's crap. So, but here's the scenario where somebody has it over your head and they're going to So it's unfortunate, but that's where we are. And then you have this whole window of opportunity. If the thing starts falling in and it doesn't meet this calendar, then I don't know if you've walked along there, but it is falling into the dirt is undermining the sheep |
| 01:41:43.57 | Mary Wagner | It is. |
| 01:41:47.43 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. containment there. So it's It's a bad scenario. It's a scenario where they had a bid. how many decades ago, and they should have done it then. You know, it costs five times more, and these issues are going to be not resolved for 50 years. |
| 01:42:09.18 | Herb Weiner | Any other comments? |
| 01:42:10.26 | Mike Kelly | I'll just add a post script to that. When you read the lease, you realize that a long time ago, there was an argument about all those red and gray areas and the green areas, and it involved five, as I recall, five different jurisdictions fighting over it. And finally, after probably spending hundreds of thousands of dollars They all agreed to disagree. And that's basically what we got. And the city got some money. The city made a sort of a, I mean, it's hard to question what was going on at the time because I wasn't there and, you know, I think we know all the facts. |
| 01:42:51.19 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:42:54.32 | Mike Kelly | the city ended up making a kind of a bad deal in assuming all the responsibility for maintenance and repair of the entire area, bulkhead area. And that just in hindsight was probably something they should have thought a little more about. But here we are. fighting again and trying to get the best possible deal we can for the city to limit the liability and at the same time do something that will actually benefit us, tremendously because What's happening to that whole bulkhead area That's all Phil. And there's pictures of that going back into the 50s and 60s when they filled it. There's some dirt in there. There's some old boats in there. Out at the end of the Spinnaker, they sunk a boat. as the foundation for the end of Spinnaker. What's been happening is as the pilings rotted out, the fill is starting to spill out. And you go out there, and if you walked along the edge of the roadway, you'd see that the roadway is collapsing and crumbling. In fact, it sunk in some cases six inches to over a foot. And we could have a tremendous tidal action storm kind of thing, and we might lose the spinnaker. The whole thing might just a road and fall apart. So we have come to the end of the road in what we can do in negotiating without damaging ourselves. We make a good deal of money on the Spinnaker, as most of you probably know. And so I think what we've done is, and the Maddens, I have to give them some credit. They had to do nothing. They could have just stiff-armed us. But instead, they came with an olive branch and said, we'll split this with you. And I think it's a generous split because it's a $5 million deal and it's 2.5 and 2.5. So they're putting up $2.5 million that the city would otherwise have to put up. And we would have to do this work. So the taxpayers in town should thank the matters for their contribution. And that doesn't dismiss all the other problems that exist there. But we couldn't get them solved in the time limit that we had available to us. |
| 01:45:11.75 | Herb Weiner | Okay. All right. With that. We need direction to give to |
| 01:45:23.90 | Mary Wagner | This information only, Mr. Mayor. |
| 01:45:25.35 | Herb Weiner | Information only? Okay. All right. Then thank you. Then we'll move on to the next item. And thank you. Thank you, Jonathan. Next item here is the status update on the EPA order compliance. Thank you. And that's Jonathan Goldman. Now, by the way, I plan to, at 9 o'clock or around 9 o'clock, we will take a five-minute break, just so you know the schedule. |
| 01:45:53.98 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you again, Mr. Mayor. Just a kind of scheduled programmed update on status of our EPA order and other wastewater-related regulatory compliance. I like to start out with the same slide every time, and I hope you'll forgive me for doing so. But I think that some of the wording that the order requires us to do is worth restating and revisiting regularly, so I'm going to read it. Beginning immediately, we are required to consistently and substantially reduce the frequency and volume of sewage spills, eliminate conditions in our collection system that cause or contribute to wastewater spills, bypasses or effluent limit violations, and that Sausalito Marin City Sanitary District shall achieve consistent compliance with its permit. Just as a reminder, this order was issued not only to the City of Sausalito but also Sausalito Marin City Sanitary District and Tamal Pais Community Services District because our systems are linked and related and EPA expects that we continue to cooperate so that we make changes, for example, in our system that benefit the treatment plant, for example, in achieving their compliance, consistent compliance with their permit, as well as avoiding blending or bypasses or things of that nature. |
| 01:47:20.76 | Mary Wagner | Oh, well. |
| 01:47:26.87 | Jonathon Goldman | A highlight that I thought is also worth continuing to mention because not a day goes by in my job that I don't appreciate the fact that the city council, the city of Sausalito, and the ratepayers for our wastewater enterprise have allowed us to retain three full-time maintenance employees in wastewater collection. And they are all at this point passing their six-month milestone and all performing adequately, some beyond adequately. And Camp Basso was here earlier. He deserves some credit for that. for that and I think we also just as a matter of good fortune and good process were able to attract very good candidates, very highly motivated candidates, and that has been very helpful to all of us. This slide is a little bit of an update from what was included in the packet. Our last quarter, the report actually isn't due until the 15th, but we submitted it last week. Our reporting period, October 1, 2010 through December 31, 2010, there were two sanitary sewer overflows. One of those was public within that quarter. I don't really want to represent that that means we've been successful and that we can quit doing anything that we're doing, but the fact that there were only two, and especially that only one of them was in the public system, I think is a function of the fact that we've been able to devote significantly increased level of effort to maintaining the system that we have, identifying the issues that in a way this figure which was originally submitted to the EPA represents where the larger a red dot is in the figure, the higher the frequency of spills historically have been. Is your house perfect? It is not. |
| 01:49:30.75 | Unknown | of It is not. |
| 01:49:34.41 | Jonathon Goldman | It is not. |
| 01:49:35.19 | Unknown | Thank you. It is not. It's very close. |
| 01:49:36.40 | Jonathon Goldman | It's really close. Short-term collection system and capacity improvement projects under the order we have until October 15, 2013 to have completed those. That's actually a living list, if you will. So in a way, the order represents it as a bright line in time. In fact, assuming we're fortunate in getting a funding commitment from the State Revolving Fund, we will have accomplished a significant body of capital improvements between now and October 15, 2013. We have another annual report in compliance on this order, which will in October, so somewhere down, you know, some distance down the line in terms of time, but certainly an obligation to continue to inform the APA and the Regional Water Quality Control Board and our neighbors and co-respondents, if you will, to the order, you know, how we're doing. that information, of course, will come back to Council. I do, one of the reasons this slide, you know, is too wordy for PowerPoint, but I wanted to provide some of the details on the capital projects that are in the hopper for us. That's why I included these slides with the staff report so that Council would have an opportunity to review them and members of the community. I'm not going to read them, but the details are available in the agenda packet. The bottom line for a lot of these in the short term is we do not, as of today, have a funding commitment from the state revolving front. Staff and consultants, including outside legal help and Assemblyman Huffman's office, are working with the Division of Financial Assistance staff to try to get that commitment just as soon as possible. |
| 01:51:58.39 | Jonathon Goldman | I'll back up here. One project that is a little bit of an update from the last time that I reported on status to Council, the Whiskey Springs Generator Improvements Project. I think I alluded at that point in time to the fact that the Sausalito-Marin City Sanitary District Uh, knowing that we were looking at the standby power and electrical components of the Whiskey Springs lift station, asked us to collaborate with them on alternatives that might eliminate the need for a Scottie's pump station. For those of you who don't know or can't keep the names all straight in the card deck, so to speak. Scottie's is essentially a wet weather, a high flow lift station when Whiskey Springs reaches capacity and the inflows are high enough. Scottie's comes on and conveys wastewater along a separate force main to the next lift station down the line, which is actually at Locust. It's the force main from Scotty's that was inadvertently punctured by a communications cable last winter. And because that line isn't normally in use until wet weather conditions exist, we didn't know that the damage had occurred until the wet weather in Scotia's kicked in. |
| 01:52:50.55 | Mary Wagner | Scott? |
| 01:53:37.63 | Jonathon Goldman | Let's see, briefly update on the Gate 5 Road project. Again, we are at a significant level of design completion, but we're not moving that project any further or not significantly further forward until we get funding commitment from State Revolving Fund. We actually have the Project 1B project further along in design and permitting that we will deliver sooner than we deliver this. One contributing factor there is We need to do a much more significant public participation process on this project. We're planning to change from a gravity collection system in this area to a low pressure system to address the history of land surface subsidence and changes in our customers' elevation, if you will, compared to our sewer system, as well as the fact that our sewer system is subject to the same kind of differential movement, albeit at different rates. So the implication of that is that our customers will have to be pumping wastewater in a circumstance where they don't now. And we want to make sure people are informed of that and know what the cost implications are and give us a chance to refine the cost sharing element of the project. The other thing that we're taking advantage of because this project is not going to go out to bid as quickly as it otherwise would We want to integrate tide gates and pavement resurfacing in this part of of the Marinship. Gate 5 Road is up on our current preliminary streets list, and certainly given the magnitude of some of the work that we would anticipate doing here with both storm drainage and the sewer work, even though we're using a less intrusive method than the sewer work, we're going to be doing a open cut wood, it's an opportunity to combine those elements into one project and accomplish some greater benefit than just a sewer project. Project 1B, Spinnaker Main and Anchor Pump Station is out to bid. My recollection is that these bids, they have been postponed twice. They are currently scheduled to be opened on the 19th, as I recall. We are essentially using that fact as leverage in our effort to get the funding commitment from the state revolving fund. I have no intention of delaying this bid opening again. |
| 01:56:28.91 | Jonathon Goldman | This project will require some minor private cost participation, both for Spinnaker Restaurant as well as Sausalito Yad Har. This project, Toyanda Woodward, is a project that we were fined as a result of some repetitive issues in. This is designed, and at this point we are working with contractors and our consultant to try to get an accurate cost estimate. If we're able to deliver this project with informal bids or something like that, if it's below the threshold for formal bidding, that expedites the project for us, but we don't really want to be wrong on that. If the actual value exceeds $130,000, then it needs to be formally bid and we'll go through the sealed bid process, et cetera, et cetera. We expect to...we don't necessarily need state revolving fund commitment to do this. It's not, bless you, not a big enough project, but it is an urgent project in our minds and one that we expect to deliver in early 2011. |
| 01:57:13.46 | Unknown | you |
| 01:57:31.87 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 01:57:44.31 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:57:44.33 | Jonathon Goldman | All right. Yes, I forgot about that. Floating arrow. Some call it a spear. |
| 01:57:47.38 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:57:49.58 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. I won't dwell on these. You've probably seen them before. I'll go through them and name them if there are questions on the projects. When West Yost originally did their analysis, B and NAPA came up as issues. We are going to require State Revolving Fund to deliver this project in any form, but it is in preliminary design now. Some of these other projects, you know, this is Spencer Court, some of these pieces of what was originally Project 3E may not get built at the same time. This project too, we have Bridgeway Valley to Maine and the Alexander Avenue projects, the beach sewer. We know enough about these issues to know that these are significant projects with the potential that it will take multiple years to both design, permit, and construct. No way that without state revolving fund we can do that. We may end up having to have an environmental impact report prepared. There's also potential for significant private cost participation. |
| 01:58:18.28 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 01:59:00.18 | Peter Van Meter | No. |
| 01:59:11.27 | Mary Wagner | us. |
| 01:59:14.47 | Jonathon Goldman | I'm happy to talk about those details if people have questions. Whiskey Springs Scotties we talked about. Another list of other projects near term and longer term that we know were are on the back burner. One of the things we joke about in the management team is that my department is continually requesting a larger stove so that we have room for all the back burner projects to keep them simmering so that they're ready to bring to the front burner in a full boil when it's |
| 01:59:41.76 | Peter Van Meter | Thank you. |
| 01:59:41.81 | Unknown | you |
| 01:59:45.93 | Unknown | It's a little boil, wouldn't it? All right. |
| 01:59:47.24 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 01:59:48.29 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:59:50.27 | Jonathon Goldman | Issues and opportunities, I alluded to the State for Valley Fund commitment, an absolute necessity for us to move forward on any of these significant projects. And not only an absolute necessity for any one project, but if we are not able to continue to roll through reimbursements for those projects, we won't be able to comply with the needs. Lateral grant program is another area where we recently, and I'll give Pat Guasco a lot of credit for this, have had some more interest and provided more benefits probably in the last six months than we have. My time might be up. |
| 02:00:22.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:00:38.11 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:00:40.70 | Jonathon Goldman | Sorry. More benefits from that. It's because of the... I don't know. Anyway, that program is going well, but it's one to... revisit in in the context that allows us to maybe turn it into a longer term program. Same with the sewer ordinance revision. Council reviewed a draft ordinance revision some time ago. Staff believes and council has asked that we not let that move too far onto the back burner and that there was some value in considering those changes. So that's on our list as well. And then the Gate 5 Road project I started with, there will be circumstances within a number of these projects and potentially in conjunction with the sewer ordinance revision where be circumstances within a number of these projects and potentially in conjunction with the sewer ordinance revision where we ask council to address the policy issues about facilities that are constructed in the private right of way. A story that I've mentioned to council and members of the public in the past is one of the benefits of what's called the underground service alert program, the call before you dig program where utilities are notified that somebody intends to do underground construction in the public sector, in the public right-of-way. utilities come out and are obligated to as accurate as they can mark their facilities so that whoever's doing the work won't damage facilities if at all possible. The private property owners that own and are responsible for their lower laterals in the public right of way don't get that notification. They may not have any idea and certainly don't have the uh, generally the resources to protect their facilities. Not that the absence of that knowledge creates a license for whoever is doing the work to damage their facilities, but if the property owner doesn't know what's happening, they also don't have the opportunity to inspect and verify that their facilities are being protected. Any questions? Yes, sir. Mr. Member Kelly. |
| 02:03:08.87 | Mike Kelly | Will the work on Gate 5 Road eliminate the flooding? |
| 02:03:13.64 | Jonathon Goldman | The intent is that the work on Gate 5 Road will significantly reduce the tidal flooding that occurs now. I won't go so far as to say eliminate because it's possible that there's a broader issue. |
| 02:03:22.93 | Jonathan Leone | Right. |
| 02:03:35.53 | Jonathon Goldman | As Council is aware, the subsidence in the marineship with the projections of sea level change, sea level rise. create a long-term issue for us. |
| 02:03:50.58 | Jonathan Leone | I'm not sure. |
| 02:03:50.75 | Jonathon Goldman | Facilities that might be improvable now to reduce flooding, reduce tidally influenced flooding may only be effective for 10 more years. So there's a long-term need there as well. |
| 02:04:02.80 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:04:02.82 | Mike Kelly | Amen. |
| 02:04:06.16 | Mike Kelly | You mean along with the fact that Clipper and Gate 5 Road are four feet in difference? At least. Yes. Okay. But what you are saying is you're going to do something to try to stem the backflow and all that sort of thing. Yes. Okay. Second thing is that State Revolving Fund, is that impacted by the state's terrible financial condition or is it kind of exempt? |
| 02:04:12.42 | Jonathon Goldman | Yes. |
| 02:04:17.80 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 02:04:18.17 | Peter Van Meter | Thank you. |
| 02:04:18.24 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:04:18.36 | Peter Van Meter | Thank you. |
| 02:04:18.49 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:04:18.65 | Peter Van Meter | Thank you. |
| 02:04:25.97 | Jonathon Goldman | Well, the answer at the risk of sounding ambiguous is probably yes and no. The bonds are issued. The agency responsible for dispersing the funds has the resources to, at least the dollars, the money, to disperse them. On the other hand, when staff leaves their organization, they're not allowed to replace them. They're on furloughs and as one of the representatives of Assemblyman Huffman's office said, the state is not particularly functional at the moment. So that hasn't stopped us or stopped them from, for example, apologizing to us when |
| 02:04:35.54 | Mary Wagner | Right. |
| 02:04:46.91 | Unknown | All right. |
| 02:04:53.98 | Peter Van Meter | Mm-hmm. I know. |
| 02:05:05.63 | Mary Wagner | the most. |
| 02:05:15.35 | Jonathon Goldman | we still don't have what we need from them. |
| 02:05:17.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:05:18.03 | Jonathon Goldman | And it hasn't stopped us from working with them to try to satisfy any of the issues that exist on the other end to facilitate their approving our loans. |
| 02:05:28.71 | Mike Kelly | The revenue for the payment of those bonds comes from the highest, doesn't it? |
| 02:05:32.95 | Jonathon Goldman | Yes, and our rates have already built that in. We're financial plan-wise structured to pay 3% on the SRS stuff that we need. Okay, Council Member Leon. |
| 02:05:33.69 | Mike Kelly | And the... |
| 02:05:37.18 | Peter Van Meter | Build that in. |
| 02:05:45.22 | Jonathan Leone | Okay. |
| 02:05:48.66 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 02:05:48.88 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:05:48.89 | Jonathan Leone | Amen. Jonathan, in your filings with the EPA, given that all these projects are being pushed back because the funding source is locked up at the moment, are they cognizant of that? And when it comes to their timeline to meet the construction of these projects, have we and they spoken or have we put it in front of them as an issue for them to opine on? |
| 02:06:19.47 | Jonathon Goldman | you We have definitely... |
| 02:06:21.34 | Jonathan Leone | Because we're not alone. I mean, everybody in California has the same problem with the state. |
| 02:06:25.93 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:06:26.41 | Jonathon Goldman | On the other hand, they don't really care. We have definitely informed them. And at this point, we have not asked them to, for example, extend anything. I think in a way, this is a short-term issue. And despite the fact that we've essentially been delayed a year on this initial big project implementation, |
| 02:06:31.13 | Jonathan Leone | It's not their problem. They don't really care. Right. |
| 02:06:41.15 | Jonathan Leone | Right. |
| 02:06:54.47 | Jonathon Goldman | My impression is that EPA and the regional board responsible for the order and our compliance are okay with that. If we're not able to award a project that we open bids for on January 19th because we don't have that from the state, we will definitely be escalating the issue through all available channels, including my preference, and I'm certainly open to asking for delays from the regulatory agencies, but my preference would be to ask them for help in getting the funding agreement. |
| 02:07:36.62 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. And just to follow these timeline questions, have you updated the fellow from Whiskey Springs who has come in a couple of times on Scotty's in terms of the timeline? I have not updated him. If you would just give him an idea of where things are going, that'd be great. And in terms of the Gate 5 Road project, obviously that's delayed, but the part of the sewer line that would be on private property. Have we spoken to that particular property owner about paying for their own sewer main? Or giving us an easement not just to maintenance but to use that road for public property, public usage? |
| 02:07:51.15 | Jonathon Goldman | I have not updated him. If you would just give him an idea of where things are going. |
| 02:08:19.84 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. We have not. |
| 02:08:20.65 | Jonathan Leone | It's maybe something to put on your list. |
| 02:08:22.94 | Jonathon Goldman | Oh, it's on the list. Yes. There are combinations of circumstances there that |
| 02:08:24.73 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 02:08:24.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:08:24.82 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah. |
| 02:08:24.95 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:08:30.89 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:08:31.35 | Jonathon Goldman | Fortunately, I guess, they don't appear to be as bad as the bulkhead and Sausalito Yacht Harbor, but there are significant public facilities under Um... properties that we don't have an easement, they are not public right of way, and there are significant private facilities conveying waste water into those public facilities. So it's a little bit more complex than Spinnaker and Anchor, for example. So yes, absolutely it is on the list. |
| 02:09:02.06 | Jonathan Leone | Right. Yeah, I'm mostly with Arkez that once that just services that property, it's not a main line that goes through. Is that correct? |
| 02:09:10.62 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 02:09:13.79 | Jonathon Goldman | I'm not familiar enough with the specifics of the ARCAS connection to be able to answer you. But believe me, there are plenty of different variants. That's one of the reasons we have to do a more significant public participation effort there, not just because we're changing from gravity to pump, but also because there are so many facilities on private property that are public and on private property that are private, we need to sort all that out. And certainly, I think your point is well taken. If it's feasible to acquire entitlements as part of that project, it would be valuable. |
| 02:09:15.51 | Jonathan Leone | Oh, you're right. |
| 02:09:18.58 | Peter Van Meter | Thank you. |
| 02:09:18.60 | Jonathan Leone | or |
| 02:09:18.94 | Peter Van Meter | Thank you. |
| 02:09:21.47 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 02:09:21.62 | Peter Van Meter | Thank you. |
| 02:09:21.67 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 02:09:34.66 | Peter Van Meter | Thank you. but also |
| 02:09:45.18 | Peter Van Meter | that out. |
| 02:09:56.45 | Jonathan Leone | Okay, and the last question is, Thank you. If the difficulty with the state, and obviously you don't have the crystal ball of what's causing all this, I think it's a combination of things in addition to what you mentioned in terms of disbursement. We don't have a concern. We're not concerned that these projects won't qualify for those funds once the wheels start turning again in state government in this particular. No. Right. So is there. Has there been some... So is it the approval that these qualify or is it the disbursement of funds that is the main Sticking point. Or is it where you are in the queue for either one or if you had to guess? |
| 02:10:39.67 | Jonathon Goldman | if you had to guess. The best answer I can offer at this point, at the risk of being obnoxious, is that it appears to be pretty purely bureaucratic and not have anything to do with the merits of our project or the other. anything of the sort. And my opinion is that the funds are available and that our projects have excellent merit. |
| 02:11:09.33 | Jonathan Leone | Okay, because one of the ideas we've toyed with that the city has discussed, is sort of funding these ourselves and refunding them once the wheels start turning. at the state revolving fund, but then you run the risk if that doesn't preclude you out of getting that rumor. |
| 02:11:26.48 | Jonathon Goldman | take it away. evolving. |
| 02:11:28.49 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 02:11:28.60 | Jonathon Goldman | And we've actually explored that and that's… Right. We were, for example, considering awarding Spinnaker Anchor without the State Revolving Fund commitment, but it's pretty clear to staff that we will not be reimbursed for |
| 02:11:46.24 | Jonathan Leone | It has to be before a project has begun. |
| 02:11:46.26 | Jonathon Goldman | It has to be. |
| 02:11:53.80 | Herb Weiner | Any other questions? Thank you, Jonathan. Any comments from the public at this time? |
| 02:12:06.07 | Jeanne Fidler | Jan Bidlow again. Was part of this project the big tank that was going to go into Martin Luther King's school over there? There was a huge... Yeah, initially... Is it different? |
| 02:12:17.09 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah, no, that initially, It is and it isn't is the answer. It part of the solution that the sanitary district had proposed years ago, a few years ago, was to build that big tank to make sure there would be less overflows in the rainy season. We've, I think, but that's, these repairs probably would have need to be done at some time anyway. But that tank proposal is gone. Yes. |
| 02:12:46.67 | Jeanne Fidler | Gone. |
| 02:12:47.11 | Jonathan Leone | Yes. Yes. |
| 02:12:48.09 | Jeanne Fidler | So we're not going to have sewage at one end and the other end. |
| 02:12:48.17 | Jonathan Leone | So we're not... Thank you. Well, yes. Because there was no |
| 02:12:55.07 | Jeanne Fidler | because there was Marin City involved and the Tamalpais district involved in all of this. And I said, why should Soslita carry all the sewage? Thank you. |
| 02:13:06.50 | Jonathan Leone | Yes. No, we worked hard for a good portion of a year or so to get the sanitary district off that particular point of view. |
| 02:13:07.10 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:13:15.52 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:13:15.91 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:13:16.32 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you. All right. Any other comment from the public? Up here? Let's bring it back up. The only thing I want to say is Jonathan Thank you very, very much, because I observed in these last series of storms that... with the addition of employees in that vac machine. It's made a real big difference. I went up on Sausalito Boulevard, San Carlos, all that area. when we were getting those heavy rains. And it did make a difference. It really did. We were able to handle it much better. |
| 02:13:53.78 | Unknown | Okay. Can I say one thing? Sure. |
| 02:13:54.98 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 02:13:55.03 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:13:55.05 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. So people understand, so just so, and maybe you should say this or someone else, but Charlie, just so people know the last rates of sewer increase really are funding intended to fund the debt service from these funds we're borrowing from the state. So we leverage, you know, the having more income, we borrow more money. So it's not that we, The rate increase we passed through was enough to do all those projects. It's enough to service the debt to do all those projects. So just so people can get an idea of the scale. |
| 02:14:28.09 | Herb Weiner | Okay, thank you. At this time here, we're going to take our 9 o'clock break at 12 past 9. |
| 02:14:41.28 | Herb Weiner | Okay, now we'll take up the status update of the downtown parking equipment. And Jonathan? |
| 02:14:49.21 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you again, Mr. Mayor. Before I start, I've prepared a PowerPoint presentation that goes |
| 02:14:49.28 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, John. |
| 02:14:57.84 | Jonathon Goldman | beyond the information that was provided in the I want to introduce the members of the parking team that are here this evening. Chris Emmons, whom I believe you have all met before from APARC. Chris Dix, who is a recent hire. Was Monday your first day? Yeah. And he's based in the Bay Area, which will be a huge help to us. He's already been here with Chris working on a number of the issues as well as becoming familiar with our installation. And I know for a fact has already contributed both good humor and good sense to at least one teleconference today. And Eric has also joined us from Streetline, the sensor company. And, of course, both good humor and good sense to at least one teleconference today. And then Erica has also joined us from Streetline, the censor company. And of course, our acting police chief, John Rohrabacher, is also here this evening. As you may recall from our last episode, Walker Parking was retained in January of 2009 to provide parking access and revenue control systems equipment consulting, and they recommended, and they were asked to recommend replacement of the existing, the then existing equipment that we had in our lots with the objectives of higher quality, reliability, security, and flexibility to better leverage the skills and expertise of parking staff and result in an optimum balance between revenue generation and the public interest. Walker conducted a series of meetings with parking, finance, police, and public work staff to understand the system that we had in place at the time and our operations and develop criteria for screening alternative technologies. They also participated with Royston, Hanamoto, Alley, and Abby in preparing a conceptual master plan for re-striping and re-landscaping for circulation and pedestrian safety improvements in our four parking lots. |
| 02:17:13.56 | Jonathon Goldman | Did you want to look at that again? Oh, all right. |
| 02:17:23.17 | Jonathon Goldman | Uh, The Council approved bid documents and authorized invitations to bid for the equipment with resolution 5091 and then with resolution 5122 of March 2010, awarded a contract for procurement of the new systems to APARC Systems Incorporated. Rollout of that equipment began July 5, 2010 following installation. Status today. included in the council staff report or in the packet and perhaps difficult to read was, you know, an action item summary from essentially the beginning of the implementation of the project through our status today. I do want to touch on the list of closed items, the list of issues that have come up and how they've been dealt with since the beginning of the process. I'm not going to read all of these, but I wanted council and staff and members of the community to recognize how many issues have actually very effectively been dealt with since we rolled the project out. One area where we still until very recently had some issues was the performance of the or the integration, the performance of the Streetline sensors themselves and the integration of those sensors with the back office software and the enforcement system software. Streetline and APARC have worked very effectively and I think very closely together to make that part of the program satisfy our acceptance criteria. It's represented as having been resolved in late December. In fact, we had to change what's called an API that was uploaded into that system in December. We've had to change it once since then. That change occurred earlier this week. And the preliminary reports are that that Those improvements have taken us above the 95% performance level that will be necessary for acceptance. That doesn't mean we're asking for council to accept the system at this point. We need some time history there to verify that that's the case, to shake it out, do additional performance testing to confirm that that's the case. Again, just very briefly, one of the issues that we've had to deal with, frankly, is that our parking enforcement officers have been used to different equipment from what we have now. One of our objectives is to ensure that those officers are comfortable and confident that the equipment that they have is at least as good, and frankly, we wouldn't be satisfied with at least as good, that it's better and more flexible and more powerful than what they've had in the past. Part of that tradeoff has to do with the fact that in the past our parking enforcement officers haven't had to enforce parking regulations in the lots because the lots were largely gate-controlled or required permits. That issue, I think, you know, I'll defer to the chief on this, but based on the actions that have taken place since November and December, we at this point have a very high level of confidence from our parking enforcement officers. And once we, you know, continue to integrate this sensor element with them over the next few days and weeks, I'm confident that you'll get high marks and votes of support and confidence from the parking enforcement officers. Siemens, who's the German manufacturer of the pay stations, the blue pay stations in the lots, we still have one out in the hall accepting donations as long as I remember to take the battery out periodically and charge it. Siemens and APARC have also been able to, with several iterations, make changes to the firmware in their machines to address some credit card issues that occurred early on, ways that our customers, the messages that appeared on the pay stations, the ways our customers interacted with the machines to try and address concerns that we identified, make it as user friendly and experienced as the firmware and the hardware will allow it to be. And even to some extent, Siemens is interested in using our installation to try to further improve their product with subsequent subsequent designs and things like that. Not that we're necessarily going to be able to take advantage of those right away, but Siemens perceives this as a significant market in the United States and have, I think, consistently and very functionally responded when APARC identified issues and made changes to the extent that they could. VPRS, Vehicle Registry something, something. It has to do with what we are using as our merchant. and valet parking registry system so that when our customers or our business's customers Um, You know, want to park? If a valet wants to park them, they check in as a guest at a hotel. They go to Gene Hiller menswear and Jean Hiller Menswear wants to pay for their parking Um, APARC has rolled out at no cost to the city. beta testing of that program. Effectively this week I think we have In Above Tides, we have Gene Hiller Menswear, Sausalito Hotel, and then there are still meetings to be scheduled with Casa Madrona and the valet operation there. But what we are doing is gathering feedback on the way that system works that will help us craft a new system. refined product. that we're then able to roll out to you know, any merchant or any of our large scale customers and allow them to pay for their customers' parking and essentially transfer the revenue directly to us. Another issue that we dealt with early on was frequent modem resets. I, at least, am not at this point sure exactly what the issue was. One of the challenges with our installation is that, as anybody who has a cell phone knows, we don't necessarily have the best cell phone coverage in all of our parking lots or all of Sausalito. This equipment communicates with what I refer to as the mothership via cell phone, basically. And so if there's a less than adequate cell signal or something like that. There have been situations where The pay stations were rebooting on their own and our customers had a negative experience as a result of that. APARC and Siemens have very aggressively dealt with that issue. I'll show you a slide in a minute and it was distributed in the handouts. The frequency of modem resets, fortunately for us we get data on all of this. We know when the machines do these things has been reduced. Let's see. For the month of December, modem resets have occurred on 0.3% of all transactions. So the graph helps understand this. We've made significant improvements and that's without addressing cellular service and cellular coverage. That's with firmware updates, replacement of parts, things like that that APARC and Siemens have handled for us. resident smart card. As some members of the council know and certainly staff knows, one of the challenges for us has been that The original scope of services did not contemplate the level of benefit that we, the city of Sausalito, provide to our residents in terms of using our parking lots. The ability to go into a lot, park for a couple of hours, leave a lot, come back to a different lot, and not be charged or ticketed for the use of our lots. APARC, working with city staff, has developed at this point a Um, application of the same kind of stored value card that we're going to be using for commuters that we think addresses that issue. We'll give our residents the the freedom and the comfort level that they are used to in dealing with our parking lots. not result in them receiving a citation, certainly not an error, but also having the benefit of the doubt and the benefit of recognition that they're residents, if they do stay longer than three hours, what that will do instead of triggering a citation is that it will trigger an invoice, trigger a billing or something like that. In the long run, we would like to get to the point where that system is operating on a debit basis, the way FastTrack does or some of the others where they would have a regular user, a regular resident who exceeds the three hour daily parking would deposit funds on account and then be debited against those funds so that we wouldn't necessarily have to perform the billing like we used to. This is the modem resets statistics. Our initial rollout here, we had, as you can see, a number of our pay stations with unacceptably high levels of spontaneous rebooting. Through time, we're down on all of those. And again, some of these changes involve replacements of hardware, firmware updates and some things like that. And these statistics are skewed a little bit. by the numbers of transactions. A pay station that isn't used very often and has a modem reset, that's a much more significant percentage of total transactions than one that's used a lot and doesn't have very many. Here are our statistics for November and December. I didn't give you the meter numbers here. One to 22. 22 is a significantly used, generally speaking, the most significantly used pay station. We had 12 modem resets during December, but again, a very small percentage of total. Some of our other highly used meters, much lower. We suspect that the issues with meter 22 are aggravated by cell coverage in that area. and as we'll talk about a little bit later, one of the things the city and APARC have committed to do together is to work on cellular coverage, try and reduce these numbers even further. But overall, these are much better than they were at the outset and appear to be consistently so. |
| 02:29:56.40 | Jonathon Goldman | Other closed items, whoops, I repeated that. local service technician. I introduced Chris. We're delighted that he's here and a lot closer. Not that we don't like seeing Chris Emmons, but Vancouver's a bit further away. We have made a number of customizations to make our parking enforcement handhelds more functional for our parking enforcement officers. I won't read all of this, but this is an example of the level of detail that we're tracking on complaints or issues that our parking enforcement officers or parking staff or police or even finance have identified. and what actions required and whether the issue has been satisfactorily resolved or not. |
| 02:31:04.59 | Jonathon Goldman | Let's see. This is Oh, thank you. my disturbing people. |
| 02:31:18.66 | Jonathon Goldman | This Just again to kind of take an umbrella approach to this particular issue, one of our primary objectives is to avoid giving citations to any customer that are wrong. The last thing that we want to do is give somebody the negative experience of having received a ticket they shouldn't have. And so we have made a lot of efforts, again, in between APARC and our police department and our parking staff. to make sure that any of the software changes, any of the processing or operational decisions that we make, we are doing everything we can to avoid an erroneous citation. Certainly, we have been writing citations, and we expect we'll be writing more citations as our level of confidence and our integration with the individual space sensors develops. But the last thing we want to do is have to dismiss a ticket, or apologize to somebody when they come in and one of the advantages to these pay stations is they give you a receipt that says, you know, on this date you parked in this space and you paid this much. And if you get a ticket and come in and say, you know, what's wrong here? That's embarrassing, it's traumatic for the person who receives the citation, and it's not acceptable. So this criterion is one that we have also insisted on working very hard on with APART. Sorry. Open items. Commuter card, this scope of work and the function of the commuter cards has already been resolved. The cards are ordered and are expected still this week. We expect then to be able to get rid of the last of our PROX cards. load and sell commuter cards to our commuters so that they will be in a position to... No, thank you. I still have some. be in a position to make sure that we are capturing the revenue and serving those customers using the technology that we've acquired. We've continued to work on this add time issue, the extended parking time issue. We want to be able to find ways to Um, again, At a minimum, we don't want to cite people and in error and we are already there with respect to this issue. The problem is that the pay stations don't remember that you've already paid for time. They're not as smart as John Rohrbrocker said. They're not as smart as a mechanical meter in some respects because there's not a timer there that's keeping track of individual times and spaces. The enforcement system is |
| 02:34:09.25 | Unknown | in the future. |
| 02:34:34.06 | Jonathon Goldman | But when a customer comes and thinks that they can extend their time at a pay station, we want them to have an experience that they regard as successful and positive. APARC has suggested changing the wording on the receipts. We're continuing to work on that. working with our vehicle registry system and our merchants to make sure that the that a customer in, again, Jane Hiller menswear or something like that. is able to say, you know, I want to look at this suit a little bit longer. I'm going to need two or three of these and be able to say, would you please add time to my meter? I'm on space 526 to make sure that the merchant is able to do that and that the customer gets some kind of confirmation that satisfies them that they're not going to get a ticket or something like that. We're continuing to work on this issue and it is not completely resolved yet. One of the things we are going to do is change the wording or the labeling on one of the buttons on the machines. We're actually, as I recall, you were going to get proofs of engraving and review those. That will help, but it's that kind of response to the issue that we've heard from customers, that we've heard from council, that we're continuing to work on and try and improve the system. Park Mobile is the other way that, for those of you who don't know it, Park Mobile is another way that you can address that issue. But it involves, you know, making a phone call or And paying a procession fee. in the long run. the city may be able to arrange to pay those fees for its customers if we went that way in the development so that any customer wouldn't necessarily have to incur those costs. Excuse me, but that's still an open item. Another open item that was the subject of one of our teleconferences this week, it was this morning's teleconference, has to do with the fact that the city's citation and collections agent, Duncan Inglewood, has been providing the service to us for some time. I don't really know how long. We need our hand-helds, our enforcement ticket printers and hand-held enforcement devices to interface with Duncan Inglewood's system so that the city's citation and collections agent, Duncan Inglewood, has Both databases, if you will, are current and reconciled with respect to one another. We've frankly had a little bit of trouble, although I think I'm optimistic that that issue has been resolved as of this morning. perception I have anyway is that Duncan feels like their business may be being encroached on and they have not been quite as quick and forthcoming with accommodating our equipment as we would like. So we've let them know that that's not a particularly acceptable response from them, first of all, and that, you know, we expect them to resolve the matter or we'll find somebody else to provide those services for us. Another open issue for us, it's not necessarily an issue, but we always have the flexibility, and this goes back to the add time issue. to tell our customers that in order to resolve some of the ambiguities they might have or their insecurities about whether they're going to get a ticket or not, that we could either direct them or encourage them to put their receipts on the dash, which is something they're used to doing. One of the downsides to this is that shouldn't be necessary and we don't want our customers to have to do that or to think that they have to do that because it's inconvenient. If you pull into a space and pay for it, Thank you. Ideally we don't make our customers go back to their car and put something on the dash, but that is an option that's available to us if the add time issue or some of these other issues. uh, can't be resolved in a way that satisfies our customers or that we continue to have significant issues with. I don't know that we have significant issues with this now, but it certainly has been raised as a question and one that we're making sure that we address. projected milestones. Staff expects to confirm that the sensor operations are acceptable this week. At this point, we anticipate bringing to City Council at its next meeting a resolution accepting the equipment, assuming that those sensor operations are above the 95% level that was specified in the bid documents. Assuming we continue to have the positive experience with the handhelds and the enforcement climate, assuming we actually get what we needed from Duncan Inglewood so that we can, you know, more accurately account for when an individual has paid a ticket, things like that, we're ready to ask for your acceptance of the system. Following that, we would expect to enter into a wireless access fee and maintenance agreement so that The costs, the operating costs of this equipment and the maintenance costs for this equipment, you know, are under contract as soon as possible. We certainly don't want to have a lapse between when we accept the equipment and when we get into a maintenance or warranty agreement because if a piece of equipment fails that isn't under the base warranty within that period, we're going to have to pay somebody to replace it. They may have to come, the parts may not cost us anything, but we don't necessarily have a labor agreement there. So this, the pricing on this was actually an element in the bid. So I think we have a pretty high degree of confidence that we'll know what we're getting for for that money. Staff also expects to install additional multi-space meters and sensors on street, replacing single space meters. At this point, the preliminary areas of interest are Bridgeway between Princess and Johnson and Caledonia. And we expect, we have budget for those, for some of that, and expect to be able to implement Yes, we do. expect to be able to implement some or all of that project this coming spring. We expect to be able to distribute resident smart cards and the related outreach and education associated with that in spring 2011. We also, as I indicated a few minutes ago, are in a beta test on the Merchant Valley Validation System that we have indicated to those businesses that that beta test period is a three-month period. So we expect to gather the information from that beta test period and be able to roll out a permanent or an ongoing system to all businesses. of our potential customers who are interested in it, again ideally in spring of this year. or longer-term items. One of the – it's not necessarily a complaint, but clearly one of the issues that we have with the change in the system is that uh, We don't have the signage available, the ability to direct our customers, to help our customers understand what they need to do. ideally to direct our customers to where available parking spaces are, things like that. So APARC has given us some advice and what we want to be able to do is develop and recommend a signage program as a subsequent phase of this project. I alluded to communications issues and the modem resets. We also have sometimes the same kinds of issues with the handhelds because they are also essentially cellular phones. They're communicating over the cellular radio network. We want to evaluate whether we can improve cell service, at least for our parking enforcement officers, but also any other subscribers that use that particular carrier to increase the reliability of that system going forward. Resident Smart Card, I mentioned that is a new scope item. It's a subsequent phase of work, but I'm confident that we'll be able to deliver a very functional resident smart card system early this year. And then as I also mentioned, we want to expand the system, not just for expansion's sake, but to unify the revenue collection process. I think the statistics that we have on the multispace meters that have been in operation since July is that we're getting 90% or more of our transactions are by credit card. So our staff doesn't have to lug coins and bills around and deal with some of the issues that they do with meters. |
| 02:45:11.19 | Jonathon Goldman | You are correct, sir. But we have the opportunity to do the same thing, although we can still accept coins, with the on-street parking and significantly reduce the level of effort that we have in collecting the revenue and managing the revenue. The other huge advantage in my judgment is that we get back 18 inches of sidewalk. in every location we're able to remove single space meters. We don't have the maintenance issues associated with mechanical meters, and we gain accessibility improvements to visual appearance and views. And those are, in my judgment, pretty desirable attributes for expanding the multispace meter system. Again, we have members of the team here available to answer questions, and as am I. So I'll conclude the presentation at this point. |
| 02:46:22.94 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Do you have any questions? |
| 02:46:25.48 | Linda Pfeifer | Marijuana? |
| 02:46:26.72 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:46:26.74 | Linda Pfeifer | Okay. |
| 02:46:26.76 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 02:46:27.16 | Linda Pfeifer | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:46:27.21 | Herb Weiner | you Shh. |
| 02:46:28.23 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. So, Jonathan, you and I talked before the council meeting and I appreciate your time and I appreciate you answering all my questions. And so, but for the public record, I'd like to kind of go through these again and just get clarity on that. So, first of all, I've heard a lot of feedback on the street about this automated parking system. And so one of the questions I heard was a preference to pay as people leave. The benefit being that people can spend time roaming around the shops in Sausalito without worrying about getting back you know, to a ticket or whatever. And that the old system, they did pay as they left. And so it was, you know, it took off that pressure. |
| 02:47:30.78 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 02:47:30.93 | Linda Pfeifer | And I understand the idea about the cell phones, but not everyone has a cell phone. |
| 02:47:30.97 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 02:47:36.72 | Linda Pfeifer | You know, there were complications there. So that was one of the questions I had. |
| 02:47:43.07 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. Thank you. And as you As I indicated, one of the things I think, well, let me preface it this way. Certainly, anybody who has questions or concerns or anxieties about the system, by all means, I want to hear about it. I know APARC wants to hear about it. I know the police chief wants to hear about it. Um, Our job is to make the experience that our customers have in interacting with our system and in parking and visiting our community as friendly and equitable, I guess, as we possibly can. Um, It depends on who that individual is. A resident, for example, I know that there is the opportunity for anxiety now, although at least the residents, while we have been developing the card system, have had the benefit of a hang tag and assurances from the police department that as long as they display identification that they are residents, they shouldn't have to worry about getting a ticket. For a visitor or someone who isn't from here or might even be a guest of a resident, We certainly aren't interested in any anxiety related experiences associated with the system. So what we need to do is work with the equipment and the software and the business community, I think, to help address those issues. If people are visiting and have only paid for 20 minutes of parking or an hour of parking and they find that they are in a shop and they realize that they need to pay for parking, we would like for that shop to be able to be the place where they pay for the additional parking. And that's one of the reasons that we have emphasized with APARC, and I think APARC has stepped up in implementing the web-based vehicle registry system to allow us to do that. In the long run, there are going to be costs associated with that. But that's okay. The customer doesn't necessarily have to bear those costs. Far better that they have an easy, convenient way to extend their parking time than for them to worry about it or have to rush back even to go to any pay station. Yes, it's convenient to go to the nearest pay station and they can do that now. It's convenient to do it by cell phone. But if, as you say, that's not, you know, they don't want to rush back, they're not there, they don't have a cell phone, we need to find and implement as many ways as we can to do that. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:50:53.40 | Linda Pfeifer | So as just for just. |
| 02:50:55.04 | Adam Politzer | Can you just add one other? points of background. when we, initiated the parking journey. One of the challenges that we had with the old system with the pay-as-you-leave was that you have to have a gate in that system, otherwise people would just leave. |
| 02:51:15.56 | Unknown | Um, |
| 02:51:15.89 | Adam Politzer | And so you have to have a gate. So if you look at the garages in San Francisco, for instance, you pull in, you take your ticket, and then you pay either at a station or a cashier as you leave and then you insert that and the gate comes up. And what we were finding with our Thank you. system here was that the gate, there was just another mechanical piece of equipment that could fail and when it failed we had to just leave the gate up and people left without paying and that ended up being a significant impact on our revenue. So in the original discussion of looking at the options, that was one of the things that we weighed. And I don't think that we're here to say that the system that we moved to is perfect, but it's helping us achieve some of the flexibility that we were looking to create and then also look at reduction in having failure of equipment and also the necessary manpower to be there to provide service as necessary. |
| 02:52:19.31 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. Oh, you were going to add something to that? |
| 02:52:22.70 | Chris Emmons | I would like to make a comment to that. This is Chris from A-Park. What I have seen when I've been out in the field, and I've been living this daily with your enforcement officers even this week, is that I get to see access on the handheld every single body who is paid in the system. On that system, we are seeing, and I've been living in the lots, we have seen... vehicles paying for parking very quickly now. We have made changes to the user instructions, for instance, that I think has really facilitated your customers to be able to park as long as we have clear instructions. I think where we run into difficulty and where I've seen difficulty is some tourists coming in that speak foreign languages. We have no instruction anywhere in the lots at all that helps them understand the parking system. Zero. There is not even a sign other than stuff that's been brought down by water decay right now and water ingress that has been pulled down because of it. That even indicates that pay parking is in effect on that lot. |
| 02:53:14.69 | Mary Wagner | Zero. |
| 02:53:28.02 | Chris Emmons | Handicap parkers. they have to pay in those lots. There is no signage indicating to handicap parkers that they are to pay in those lots. So it is very difficult for an Asian tourist, for instance, in that example, for them to understand how to use the system. What we're suggesting from APARC's perspective is that that is where we see the difficulty. For the most part, that is where we see the difficulty, is with the tourists. And at least just educating a little bit of people with just even signage. It just facilitates it. I would like to see signage be put into the program in the second phase. And everybody I've spoken to throughout the city agrees. It is literally just getting acceptance so we can put the signage program in place and agree on the initial phase of the system and put things in, like multi-language instructions beside the pay station and in general format, Mandarin or Italian, just to try to accommodate the masses as much as we can. And I think that'll make a huge impact on this program. I really see that making a really big impact so far. |
| 02:54:40.15 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you very much. If I could just respond to some of the answers I've received to my question. So the feedback that I have received has been from residents. The comments regarding the reliability of the resident hang tags, I mean there has been a lot of anxiety. If we look at this and treat this as a change management project, There are a lot of residents who are not getting the message that all they need to do is put up their hang tag and, you know, they're going to be okay. Um, I know at least... one resident who has put up their hang tag and then has bought you know, a ticket, in addition to that and put it on their dashboard out of fear that they wouldn't get back from their trip to San Francisco in time to and then come back to a ticket. you |
| 02:55:39.78 | Chris Emmons | Thank you. |
| 02:55:39.83 | Linda Pfeifer | I answered. |
| 02:55:39.87 | Chris Emmons | Can I answer that? |
| 02:55:40.83 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:55:41.02 | Chris Emmons | Or make comments towards that. I'd really like to. Just... Please. Uh-huh. |
| 02:55:41.07 | Linda Pfeifer | I... Thank you. Please. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. Yes. |
| 02:55:46.62 | Chris Emmons | Thank you. I agree with you. I don't know what communication has gone out internally in the newspapers to inform the residents what communication has gone out there. But what I can say is this. The resident card that is going to be available will be issued to a resident based on a name, and they will be able to also associate that with two license plates for every single resident card that's handed out, two license plates. So, for instance, a resident enters, We want to get the resident's vehicle space into the system. So that's the main goal of the resident card. and we're going to educate. We're going to put things on their dash when they're in the lots and educate them when we see it. We have real-time status in the handheld if they've been issued warnings before. We actually know if they have a resident card, that in the system real time to our handheld, it actually comes up and notifies us, the enforcement officer, that they have a permit, that they are a resident. And I can look at their permits, and I can read details on their permits right on my handheld. in real time, even if they just signed up two seconds ago, I have that available on my handheld. So the benefit of this is that no matter what, if a resident pays for parking, they enter, not pays, but they enter themselves in the system using their card. They deduct the value off the car that we provide them. Once that happens, the resident, if they're over their time allowance and they are now active as read and the enforcement officer sees them as unpaid, will look that license plate up and it will be associated in their hand held with a permit. And then it is their city policy how they would like to treat that information. My understanding is that a number of warnings will be issued to that resident. Let's say five, for instance, as a general. And anything over that, they'll be issued potentially a citation at that point in time at that city's decisions. But the main goal is to create some compliance around it. Get them using it and get their space information in the system so that the enforcement officers can really go out and do their job efficiently. |
| 02:57:48.49 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you very much. I understand the vision that you're sharing with us. I'm talking about what's happening. |
| 02:57:54.04 | Unknown | of what's happening. I want to try to keep it to a question. |
| 02:57:56.34 | Linda Pfeifer | Okay, I'm talking about what's happening today. And so my question is, we've got residents who are concerned and who have anxiety with respect to these hang tags. And so I guess my question is, do we have a communication strategy to ensure that we are having a communication channel for residents to contact the city and get It just seems that to me that if you have a strategy in place, I would love to hear about it on the city website or signs or a hotline number or something. |
| 02:58:37.12 | Jonathon Goldman | This is Jonathan Goldman again. You're absolutely right. And the resident that you mentioned who had their hang tag up and had a receipt on the dash and got a citation, I'm willing to bet that if Chief Rohrabacher had that information, that citation would be dismissed. |
| 02:58:57.44 | Unknown | you |
| 02:58:57.49 | Jonathon Goldman | I agree that we have the opportunity and the obligation, I think, to let our residents know how they can address that kind of dispute or that kind of issue. I think we can make sure that in addition to the parking division's telephone number and other contact information, we can definitely do a better job of making sure that the residents Thank you. to the parking division's telephone number and other contact information, we can definitely do a better job of making sure that the residents who have these temporary hang tags know how to use them and how to deal with the issue. At the same time, we're not interested in perpetuating the hang tag process. We want to get to a point as quickly as possible so that the residents have something more durable and again, a much better experience where they put a card in the machine, they tell the machine where they're parked. |
| 02:59:38.53 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:59:55.76 | Jonathon Goldman | The system recognizes them. I don't know that we'll be able to get the LCD on the meter to say, hello, Mrs. Johnson, nice to see you again yet. But at some point, the system recognizes that that's somebody that is entitled to something that not every Parker who uses the lot is, and that if they exceed the three hours per day that they're allowed, instead of receiving a citation, they'll simply receive an invoice. |
| 03:00:00.77 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 03:00:26.58 | Mike Kelly | MR. How many calls are we getting downtown staff about parking problems by residents? A lot? |
| 03:00:38.56 | Adam Politzer | at the city manager's office we're not receiving many at all i had received two emails this week on questions that have been on one of them being raised tonight by council member pfeiffer and then we at a chamber of commerce meeting had discussion with with Tom Genchtano from Gene Hiller's Menswear with concerns about the validation system. And I met with Tom and I know that staff has met with his staff as well as APARC some time ago and we continue to work with Gene Hiller's Menswear to support their needs. On the flip side of it, we've actually received a lot of positive comments, in particular, the ease of going in and out of the parking lot. There is no longer a guard at the gate. We've received many compliments on the access of parking in lot four, where that was permit parking before and obviously the taste of Rome has benefited from that as the Caledonia street merchants have also benefited from lot four. So there's actually been a lot of compliments as well about the improvements in the parking system. The change obviously of not having someone there in the booth. For some people, the comfort of saying hello They didn't trust machines and would go up and have the attendant take care of their parking ticket. Not their parking ticket, but their parking card. That doesn't exist anymore or at least not to the level it has. But I think that one of the things that just to respond to the questions that have been I brought forward. is there was a reason why we did it on July 5th and didn't wait for this slow season. And the reason why you see all those lines up there is that we needed to do it when we had peak season going on. We needed to hear. from our visitors, we needed to hear from our business owners, we need to hear from our residents. So now that we're in this slow period of time, we're able to make the adjustments, make the improvements, complete the transition as we go into the spring solving all these problems. And as much as they are problems, at the end of the day, you know, it's our intentions that I think we've we've beat it over and over not to ever cite our our residents at the end of the day, you know, it's our intentions, I think we've repeated over and over, not to ever cite our residents to make sure that they have the ability to not just part in one lot for three hours, but any location that requires payment. and to not be cited if they overstay their parking limit, instead have the opportunity to reimburse us at a later point via the invoice. |
| 03:03:33.03 | Unknown | Hmm. |
| 03:03:33.25 | Adam Politzer | The transition is working. There was concerns at the beginning. It was all new for staff. Transition is working. I think the business community has been patient. I think when I've talked to the owner of Angelino's, they don't have internet access, so they want to be able to validate their customers. So we're working on a way that, a merchant without |
| 03:03:55.00 | Unknown | Uh, |
| 03:03:55.27 | Adam Politzer | internet access has the ability to pick up the phone Thank you. |
| 03:03:58.71 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:03:58.76 | Adam Politzer | and dial in the tell me your number and dial it in and pay for their parking spot you know from you know from their front from their front counter so that they can also validate parking as well. One of the things that Jonathan Goldman didn't mention when we talked about the discount, the validation ability for folks to validate parking is that's at a discount rate and we're trying to keep that discount rate at I think a dollar $25? Yeah, $1.25. That's what they paid in the past. We're trying to honor that going forward. So from, you know, when you look at the number of contacts, maybe I've had five contacts of concern or questions. I think of those five, I've responded to four of them and I've had positive interaction based on my response to the public. The police department. And the parking enforcement officers, as Jonathan Goldman stated, I've also had their contacts out there and I can't speak for that. John may want to respond to your question, Mr. Kelly, Councilmember Kelly, but from my office I think that folks understand that we're in transition and they see the positive outcomes that await us in the near future. Thank you. |
| 03:05:21.08 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:05:21.97 | Herb Weiner | My comment is I'm almost down there every day, and I remember when we first started this machine, there were lines. because of the confusion. You can go down there now, even on sunny days and even on weekends, there are no lines. It seems people, especially the locals, are getting well adjusted to this. knowing how it works. The only thing I... would like to ask is maybe someday that we have a system where verbally you could press whether it's Japanese, Chinese and have a translator on how it would work on a verbal basis. |
| 03:06:04.75 | Chris Emmons | Me and Jonathan, it's Chris from APARC. Me and Jonathan, we're also going to explore signage that could potentially give vocal instructions as well. Especially that would be of a value asset potentially in lot one where a lot of your tourists are parking. But obviously looking at the full scope of the program as well. |
| 03:06:05.63 | Mary Wagner | . |
| 03:06:25.29 | Herb Weiner | I think you'll see that from my observation, the locals now have a pretty good handle on it. Just one or two maybe that haven't been down there in a long time. But basically I can see it and I see it every day. that it's a much smoother system now, my opinion. |
| 03:06:45.47 | Chris Emmons | And one additional comment, I know I'll be very short. I've worked with the Inn Above Tides Hotel today. They are completely excited about the VPRI system or vehicle registration. They love it. Casa Majorna is definitely excited. We're meeting with the Hotel Sausalito tomorrow. I expect the same opinions of it, because it's very, very easy and convenient for them. And it really accommodates their guests. And I can see that solution really bringing new business opportunities to your local businesses. It really gives them a value add to their customers. I think they'll really like that and appreciate that service. And you could get to a point in Sausalito where you basically provide people who come here free parking. Not fully, but you're getting pretty close if you can get the buy-in factor with that BPR system. So something to big vision there, but at the same time, it is potentially achievable as well. Okay, I'm gonna hold you to that. |
| 03:07:45.14 | Unknown | I don't understand. |
| 03:07:45.17 | Chris Emmons | Thank you. |
| 03:07:47.28 | Unknown | Can I ask one quick? Yes, go ahead. |
| 03:07:48.18 | Jonathan Leone | Yes, go ahead. So the sensor technology Is that enabled or is it going to be enabled and is it the API update or I guess that's Thank you. |
| 03:08:00.38 | Chris Emmons | I've walked in. |
| 03:08:00.87 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:08:00.92 | Chris Emmons | Oh, sorry. |
| 03:08:00.95 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. Oh, that's right. derumblized in terms of its ability to withstand trucks going by and all the other problems |
| 03:08:08.56 | Chris Emmons | Yes. When we have very large trucks with high surface level is the only time where we potentially get a lower accuracy read. I've been in your lots. I have studied this with Streetline. We had one today in about 2,000 tests and we did pick it up accurately. |
| 03:08:14.75 | Jonathan Leone | Lord. |
| 03:08:29.15 | Chris Emmons | So it's not a concern to us. What I did experience today in the lots was extremely exciting to me. It is what I can vouch for this system is that it's absolutely incredible. We can tell you exactly which spaces are paid for. When you pull into a space, you get a five-minute grace period that shows up blue. We are doing that with accuracy levels of above 95%. We know when you're in the lot, you have a five-minute grace period. As soon as you make payment that is green within about two seconds at the pay station or even Then, when your parking time expires, It goes yellow. It indicates us yellow that you're in a five-minute grace period to get back to your car after your hour time. And then it goes red. The red spaces are what our enforcement officers can pinpoint vehicles in violation anywhere in the lot at any given time. And they can literally pinpoint the vehicles, which is extremely efficient and will spend their time looking at other things of importance. And they can be advocates of the system as well. Very, very efficient and productive, plus it gives them a very educated way to see the lot. And in addition to that, the way we write our citations through the system is so much more efficient It's going to write better citations. They have the ability to take photos with their citations. They have the ability to add better comments into their systems so that they're more eligible. And now they have the ability to customize the tool that they're using. That's one of the things I found in this experience this week is that we didn't understand as APARP, and it's a bit of miscommunication, that your enforcement officers in Sausalito really are the administrators of the system. They didn't have that administrative access or voice up until this week. That is one of the things we're going to be doing is retraining those enforcement officers, not on the system because that's functioning great now, but really on the admin side, getting them more involved and customizing the tool. And they have Great buy-in, they love it. Um, and now they're excited to go and use it. The only piece that we're waiting for now, Mr. Leone, is that we have to complete this piece with Duncan for the processing of the information that we collect using our tools. And we're just waiting for Duncan to give us the thumbs up that we can go live. |
| 03:10:38.26 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:10:46.61 | Jonathan Leone | No, I understand that. Thank you. Jonathan, one thing I would suggest is when you get to the stored value card stage, you know, it's not, nobody can do everything well across the spectrum. And certainly once you cross over into the sort of financial service aspect of it, it may be worthwhile and actually easier for APARC, Siemens, the whole conglomeration of people. to just get stored value cards that the city can use and process those like credit cards. I mean, that may be, at the end of the day, an easier path to go that's less admin all around. |
| 03:11:15.86 | Mike Kelly | I mean, |
| 03:11:19.40 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:11:22.86 | Mike Kelly | I just sent you an email, but I'll ask you the question. If you tie the license plate to the card, you got it? Good. If you tie the license plate to the card, then if I have a rental car or a loaner or, you know, my guest neighbor comes in, I'm out of town, and we take his car down there, I still need to be able to use my resident card. |
| 03:11:30.77 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. I'm going to go. |
| 03:11:31.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:11:31.43 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 03:11:46.60 | Jonathon Goldman | And you will be able to. Okay, great. The only circumstance under which the license number becomes important is if you exceed three hours or if there's something else that might lead to a potential citation. |
| 03:11:47.63 | Mike Kelly | Okay, great. |
| 03:11:53.18 | Mike Kelly | Bill Eames. |
| 03:11:56.83 | Jonathan Leone | or, you know, |
| 03:12:01.49 | Jonathan Leone | Which is the same with Fast Track. Like they only let you, you have to, technically you have to register all your license plates and they only give you so many. In reality, you can just jump around. |
| 03:12:09.00 | Herb Weiner | you can just separate. You don't have to stick in the guy. You can move with any guy you want. Unless there's a big problem. |
| 03:12:12.34 | Jonathan Leone | Unless there's a big problem, they're not going to track down that license plate or it becomes a free user. |
| 03:12:16.90 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:12:16.93 | Jonathon Goldman | Yeah. |
| 03:12:17.55 | Mike Kelly | No, they just want somebody to go through it. |
| 03:12:19.14 | Jonathon Goldman | And I can't speak for enforcement, but if, let's say we have a pool of 2,000 resident cards, very few, based on my understanding historically, very few of those residents, and we all have PROX cards, ever exceeded their three hours a day. So you'd have to be in the margin of being over and above three hours a day. chances are if on more than one occasion, a vehicle with a license plate that did not match the resident was in that category, you'd be likely to potentially get a warning. You know, please contact the parking office. You know, we've seen the use of this card with a vehicle that wasn't registered, you know, five times for 15 hours a day in the last week. You know, we need to work with you to make sure that your card hasn't been stolen or something like that. |
| 03:13:04.89 | Mary Wagner | this car with a vehicle that wasn't |
| 03:13:16.55 | Mike Kelly | but I can go down to the police department and have that straightened out, right? |
| 03:13:20.48 | Jonathon Goldman | At worst, yes. You might be able to do it over the phone. You might be able to do that. There are lots of opportunities with the way this system works. For example, as a potential benefit, if you do have to rent a car or you do have guests in town and you're going to ride around with them, potentially have the opportunity to call the administrator and say, you know, I know you have my two other cars. I'm going to be using this car for a week for some reason. All we have to do is change the database. And we can either annotate that so that we take the change back out or have the system, if the software is flexible enough, put a time limit in it. |
| 03:13:25.88 | Mike Kelly | Exactly. |
| 03:13:27.77 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 03:13:27.79 | Mike Kelly | Yeah. |
| 03:13:27.92 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 03:14:10.26 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 03:14:11.80 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:14:11.83 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 03:14:12.29 | Jonathon Goldman | I do. |
| 03:14:14.09 | Herb Weiner | Okay, now that I'm an hour behind. Yeah, I'm scared. I know, there goes my promises, promises. Anyway, any public comment on this? I knew you were waiting. You got three seconds. |
| 03:14:15.66 | Jonathon Goldman | AND WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF Thank you. |
| 03:14:16.66 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:14:16.86 | Jonathon Goldman | It's a hair that you have. |
| 03:14:20.45 | Mary Wagner | and a new reputation. Thank you. |
| 03:14:21.84 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:14:21.85 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:14:21.99 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:14:22.01 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 03:14:22.02 | John Nichols | Right. |
| 03:14:28.03 | John Nichols | We have three seconds. |
| 03:14:29.28 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Yeah. Bye. Bye. |
| 03:14:29.97 | John Nichols | . |
| 03:14:30.22 | Herb Weiner | . |
| 03:14:31.10 | John Nichols | Good evening. I'm John Nichols. I live on Pine Street. I'm a resident. I've got about six different hats for this tonight. My impression has been three hours for resident, and you could buy additional three hours. So my email to Adam today is, was I want to go to the baseball game. It's either a six hour event or an eight hour event. Am I anxious after six hours because I'm going to take 6 o'clock curry back and I'm going to get a ticket? Sure. So that's one concern. When I go to the soft-seated yacht club and I spend more than three hours, I go out and I move my car to another spot. So I get three hours and then another three hours. That's a pain in the ass. I'd rather just leave the car and get built for it. I also happened to work at the chaos. So July, August, Herbie and I see each other every once in a while. And we get foreign tourists that panic after they can't use their credit card in the second or third chaos. |
| 03:15:26.32 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:15:26.75 | John Nichols | Thank you. They run to us. to cash their bills to get corners. to put quarters. So we've now got $20 or $40 in quarters in the chaos to make change to be the good one in the parking. So I think the foreign language sign is important, is really critical. One of the other benefits of lot four There's people that are sailing. You couldn't park in a lot before and go sailing out of ABC dock for more than, well, you couldn't do it. You had to go park in Caledonia or hide somewhere. Now you can park in a lot before. I think that's a real benefit. So this is a real issue. In my characterization, it's like holding a bowl of Jell-O without the bowl. And I applaud everybody for working on the effort. You got a lot of different, you really have a lot of different |
| 03:16:08.40 | Mary Wagner | without the... |
| 03:16:15.39 | John Nichols | avenues here. I don't know that we need to kowtow to the residents, but we sure need to make the communication clear. I got a ticket. I had to go right to Florida for Duncan to get the ticket I sure didn't like that. If I knew I could have called the chief or called Curtis or someone else in the police department and plead my case locally, that would have made a lot of difference. But the only way you could do it is right to Florida or wherever Duncan was, you know, with the story. So when I say I'm parked on Pine Street with my sticker and you didn't see it, they haven't got a clue what I'm talking about. So if we make the message to residents locally, this is the avenue. And maybe just set it up like a hotline for six months, at least to let, to vet some of And not saying the residents are always correct and proper and right and all that, but set something up for six months to vet those kinds of questions. If I've got friends in town and my car takes two and they take four, can I go down with them, use my resident card for parking, I'd be tempted to do it, you know. So, you know, those kinds of things. And I think it's a great benefit. I like the fact that barricades are down. It's nice to be able to pick up somebody at the ferry, right, in the rain. So, I mean, there's a real benefit. And I can see the revenue enhancement reducing the costs over the long run. And I think if we take the position that it's going to help the city and residents and our tourist visitors, it's very positive. Thank you. |
| 03:17:26.08 | Mary Wagner | Right? Yeah. |
| 03:17:42.35 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:17:43.09 | John Nichols | THANK YOU. |
| 03:17:43.29 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:17:43.33 | John Nichols | Thank you for coming. |
| 03:17:43.97 | Jonathan Leone | Did you want to... |
| 03:17:44.39 | John Nichols | Thank you. |
| 03:17:46.99 | Herb Weiner | Did you want to comment on that? |
| 03:17:50.80 | Chris Emmons | Yes, for sure. I think one of the issues, and I may have mistaken this, but I want to make sure I clarify this, is that I understand that three hours allotted time in that lot as a minimum is one of the issues. That's not the issue. |
| 03:18:06.09 | Jonathan Leone | It's the ability to add time to that. |
| 03:18:07.66 | Chris Emmons | to that Thank you. |
| 03:18:08.82 | John Nichols | Oh, I'm sorry, the other thing is... |
| 03:18:12.15 | Herb Weiner | You have to come. |
| 03:18:13.26 | John Nichols | Bye. |
| 03:18:13.30 | Herb Weiner | . |
| 03:18:13.48 | John Nichols | She's very good. |
| 03:18:13.89 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:18:13.90 | John Nichols | . |
| 03:18:13.94 | Herb Weiner | You can't do that, John. |
| 03:18:14.02 | John Nichols | Can't do that, John. Yeah. |
| 03:18:14.97 | Herb Weiner | Bye. |
| 03:18:14.98 | John Nichols | Right. |
| 03:18:15.61 | Herb Weiner | Don't make me look bad now. |
| 03:18:17.53 | John Nichols | John Nichols, sorry Mr. Meyer. The other thing is, if you're going to give me instructions about how to add time if I'm away, and you're giving it to me on the receipt that you're now suggesting I keep on the dash, |
| 03:18:27.72 | Unknown | Amen. Yeah. |
| 03:18:29.76 | John Nichols | Kind of unclear on the concept. |
| 03:18:30.32 | Chris Emmons | I'm not sure. Thank you. For sure. We can put any instructions on the receipt. We can try to accommodate you in any way with instructions. We can provide methods for extending time. We can look at potentially putting some type of solution. We can create something. I think we'd have to look at what the requirements are a little bit more in detail and put a proper scope of work and proper thought behind it and put some dedicated time towards thinking of that solution. But definitely there's a bunch of ways we can add time to the solution if you're remote. We can look at those. Also for citation payment, going to Florida is a real issue. I can understand that and I can relate to that. We have online citation payment portals already built that we can plug into the system now, which would be very convenient. And what we suggest with most of our installations is that we have an early bird incentive rate for that so that it increases people's attention to it. and also gets compliance for citations, improves compliance, and that online citation portal is extremely easy and convenient. It's something you can use right at home or potentially have some dial-in options as well that the city currently has. |
| 03:19:36.24 | Mary Wagner | Come on. |
| 03:19:47.68 | Chris Emmons | Thank you. Thank you. you Thank you. you |
| 03:19:50.41 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Any other comments from the public? Any public? Okay, let's bring it back up here. |
| 03:19:56.96 | Linda Pfeifer | That's right. So I think that one recommendation I would make is that we firm up the management aspect of this with respect to communication. set up a hotline, maybe put a big automated parking feedback button on the main screen of the city website, Um, Maybe you know, when we send out the commuter cards or the resident cards have a cover letter with, you know, and put up signage that says if you're having problems, you can call this number or you can, you know, because... |
| 03:20:26.42 | Mary Wagner | resident. |
| 03:20:35.82 | Linda Pfeifer | And I'm just talking, these are not the answers, these are just suggestions, but I would recommend that perhaps the, you know, we ask city staff to explore a little bit more the change management communication aspect of this. And, you know, I think I would, it would be nice as a resident to know |
| 03:20:37.27 | Mary Wagner | They're not the answers. |
| 03:21:03.26 | Linda Pfeifer | If you have a problem, if you get a ticket, if you have a question about what car can I use, that you know exactly who to call, who to contact and how to record that request. |
| 03:21:16.59 | Jonathan Leone | Okay. Go ahead, John. John, is there someone now at the front desk in the new station pretty much most of the day? |
| 03:21:28.05 | Carolyn Ford | Monday through Friday, 7 in the morning until 5 in the afternoon. |
| 03:21:29.60 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:21:32.07 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:21:32.15 | Jonathan Leone | you |
| 03:21:32.33 | Carolyn Ford | Okay. |
| 03:21:35.25 | Mike Kelly | That's when I got a ticket because I forgot to put my resident card up. That's exactly what I did, drove over there and |
| 03:21:39.22 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:21:41.08 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:21:41.09 | Jonathan Leone | But I mean, you know, you can actually, if you just had on the call this number and if that person is well versed enough. It's the weekends that are going to be the problem. Or that you could call one of the enforcement officers. |
| 03:21:43.62 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:21:43.73 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 03:21:46.58 | Mike Kelly | It's the weekends that are coming from. |
| 03:21:49.02 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 03:21:49.16 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:21:49.18 | Mary Wagner | I'm looking forward. |
| 03:21:51.47 | Mike Kelly | First of all. I guess I don't understand why you can't issue a resident card to a resident and it becomes golden. You put it in the machine, the machine automatically, you guys aren't listening. |
| 03:22:02.52 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:22:03.37 | Mike Kelly | Listen. Listen. |
| 03:22:03.54 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:22:04.95 | Kent Basso | Yeah. |
| 03:22:05.58 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:22:06.37 | Kent Basso | I'm sorry, Counselor. I know. Is there a question? There's not a question. |
| 03:22:07.23 | Mike Kelly | I know. Is that a question? There's not a question. I want you to listen to what I'm going to say. Yes, sir. That's supposed to be a question. I don't understand why we can't have a resident card that isn't golden. I carry it around with me all day long. I put it in the machine. |
| 03:22:10.96 | Unknown | to what I'm gonna say. Yes, sir. That was supposed to be a question. |
| 03:22:21.34 | Mike Kelly | and it registers, ooh, resident, okay, and it says three hours free, Charge him when he goes over three hours. And then I parked my car in the slot that matches the number. I put the number in just like everybody else. And I'm golden. You won't haul my car away. You won't give me a ticket. You'll just send me a bill at the end of the day. So I can go to the ball game. I can go spend the night in San Francisco, come back the next day. My car's there. I get a bill. I mean, that doesn't seem to me. It doesn't matter which car I put in there because it's my car that controls, not the car. |
| 03:22:58.79 | Unknown | You start to throw the cards |
| 03:22:59.00 | Mike Kelly | If there's a car in my spot and I put my card in there, I don't care if it's Joe Blow's car, you're going to bill me for Joe Blow's car. So what's the rub? That's what I don't quite get yet. And I think that the residents deserve that. They don't deserve to have to worry about whether they're going to get a ticket. Absolutely. That's going to put a burden on the police department killing tickets all the time. Yes. |
| 03:23:12.62 | Mary Wagner | And I think that the residents deserve that. |
| 03:23:17.70 | Linda Pfeifer | Absolutely. |
| 03:23:18.78 | Mary Wagner | of the depression. |
| 03:23:19.19 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 03:23:19.27 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:23:19.42 | Mary Wagner | I love it. |
| 03:23:23.84 | Linda Pfeifer | It's my understanding that's the goal, what you described. That's where we're going. |
| 03:23:27.59 | Mike Kelly | So, |
| 03:23:27.96 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah. |
| 03:23:28.49 | Mike Kelly | And the... |
| 03:23:28.77 | Jonathan Leone | . No, it's not actually. It should be the goal. |
| 03:23:30.53 | Linda Pfeifer | It should be. |
| 03:23:31.03 | Herb Weiner | It sure should be. I can't have three council people. |
| 03:23:32.35 | Chris Emmons | Shh. |
| 03:23:32.57 | Linda Pfeifer | I can't believe it. |
| 03:23:32.98 | Chris Emmons | I can't have three council people. This is Christian May Park. That is the exact scope of work document that we have listed out with Jonathan right now that we are getting approval on tomorrow, probably before I leave. Thank you. |
| 03:23:43.50 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:23:43.84 | Chris Emmons | Um, That's what worked. The only point I want to mention was the license plate. I know there's some confusion behind that. The license plate is key for one reason. Let's say you put in your resident card. What the enforcement officer is really green and red. It's very simplistic. And what they do is when they actually see a vehicle in violation, the next step in the process is to key in the license plate of the vehicle. When they key in the license plate of the vehicle, every piece of associated information with that vehicle is then present to the enforcement officer so he can make an informed decision in the field. What he'll see, and what I mean by that, is that the permits associated with that vehicle, being a resident, alerts him at that point. So it's based off the license plate. |
| 03:24:22.11 | Mary Wagner | Bye. |
| 03:24:28.02 | Mike Kelly | So it's based off the license plate. I don't understand why the card. When you put the card in, why can't that be the notification that anybody in that spot Right now as a resident, it doesn't matter what his car is. |
| 03:24:39.41 | Jonathan Leone | Correct me if I'm wrong. I mean, they don't have a billing system. That's not their thing, right? So they don't have the – they're not set up to process back future charges. It's meant to charge you at that moment in time, right? It's not meant to charge two hours, three hours, six hours, eight hours. What's the problem? So you'd have to either have a stored value card or the ability to add on time through whatever mechanism possible. |
| 03:24:45.77 | Mike Kelly | Oh. |
| 03:24:53.32 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 03:24:53.45 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:24:53.49 | Mary Wagner | IT'S A GOOD IDEA. two hours. Thanks. |
| 03:24:56.49 | Carolyn Ford | Eight hours. What's the problem? |
| 03:24:58.04 | Mary Wagner | you |
| 03:24:59.10 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:24:59.21 | Mike Kelly | had. |
| 03:24:59.49 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:24:59.53 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:24:59.54 | Unknown | I'm going to have a |
| 03:25:04.96 | Mike Kelly | it. |
| 03:25:05.13 | Peter Van Meter | So, |
| 03:25:05.32 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:25:06.02 | Jonathon Goldman | Yes. If I may, Mr. Mayor, these are good comments, and I want to echo what Chris said. What we intend to deliver is exactly what you have said you want. There's other information that is of value to parking enforcement for lots of purposes. And as I indicated earlier, our prime objective, I forget what they used to call it, what's the Star Trek term? Yeah, that's right. I think it's the prime objective. Is not to cite the state. |
| 03:25:39.00 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah. |
| 03:25:39.07 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 03:25:39.20 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:25:40.19 | Linda Pfeifer | That's right. I think it's the prime objective. |
| 03:25:43.77 | Herb Weiner | Oh, Let me beam you up. |
| 03:25:46.66 | Jonathon Goldman | Please do. Not to cite people. Resistance is futile. Without it being a fairly high level policy decision on the part of parking enforcements to do so. So certainly a resident who is identified as a resident is likely to get the benefit of lots of doubts before their space even turns red, let alone that they get towed or sighted. But we're working on delivering that as one of our next significant milestones in this |
| 03:25:48.75 | Herb Weiner | I'm not. |
| 03:25:49.04 | Kate Flavin | Bye. Bye. Resistance is futile. |
| 03:26:22.64 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you, Jonathan. Mr. Mayor. So I just wanted to respond when I raised the question about the change management and communication for residents and anyone really, to give feedback to the Parks and Rec Department. And the response was, well, we've got people at the booth. Well, you know, there's sometimes a line at that booth, and if you're you know, pressed for time and you've got to get out of there, you know, people don't always, you know, have the time to be able to stand in line and may or may not get the answers. So all I'm saying is I would like to see the Park and Rec Department maybe take a look, a revisit at how they, empower residents or anyone for that matter to proactively communicate problems, issues, you know, feedback, you know, to them. |
| 03:27:10.92 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. The only comment I have is... Ever go to a Costco gas station? you have to put that membership card in first and then you put your how you're paying for it. Maybe we should have something where the member The resident has a Resinacad, slips it in and accepts that. and then pay. Well, then you get the three-hour thing, I'm just saying the payment. is you put the card in and then it registered after three hours, and that credit card takes over. |
| 03:27:47.28 | Herb Weiner | Just a comment. Bye. I mean, Castro has done it and it works there. I think we're finished. |
| 03:27:57.93 | Mike Kelly | We've just announced. |
| 03:27:59.97 | Herb Weiner | you Well, Okay. Thank you very, very much. And we really appreciate your time and your effort. And we're very, very aware that You want this to work as much as we want it to work, so we really appreciate it. |
| 03:28:15.16 | Jonathan Leone | But you really should have made the new guy to answer all the questions. |
| 03:28:18.09 | Unknown | No. |
| 03:28:20.93 | Herb Weiner | . |
| 03:28:21.20 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:28:21.22 | Herb Weiner | And... |
| 03:28:21.28 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah. |
| 03:28:21.54 | Herb Weiner | Amen. |
| 03:28:21.60 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:28:21.66 | Herb Weiner | . |
| 03:28:21.71 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:28:21.84 | Herb Weiner | mineral. for a while. Thank you. No. I like the system. I think it's going to work. So thank you. Okay. Next, I guess we go on to city manager. You're on. |
| 03:28:38.75 | Mike Kelly | I'm not. |
| 03:28:38.95 | Herb Weiner | Yeah, you get three now. Five minutes or less. |
| 03:28:39.51 | Mike Kelly | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:28:39.69 | Unknown | You get three now. |
| 03:28:42.24 | Adam Politzer | Five minutes or less. Thank you Mr. Mayor Council members little abbreviated report here let me start off by saying happy new year to all of you and to our community this morning the mayor and I had an opportunity to we're asked to make comment on the state budget at the Chamber of Commerce Biz X meeting. and the state of the state. and the new governor coming on board and some of the statements that are being made. want to just again caution the community that as we have experienced for at least the last three years when they've identified significant deficit in the state budget and you look back three years ago when they were talking about 12 billion dollars and then all of a sudden swelled up to 16 billion turned into 18 billion 22 billion they balanced their budget and then two months later they were right back at it. You know, we do have a new governor and he's got some ideas to help solve our troubles but he doesn't act alone and he's got to work with his state legislators to move the the ball in a direction don't know which but in a direction. The people spoke and they reduced the requirement of two-thirds vote to pass the budget, and that may help, but there's going to be a whole lot of new deals that come into play, and one of those, if they want to try to make an impact, may be the idea of going to the people, as as the governor has stated to look at tax increases. One of the statements that they've made are shifting some of the responsibility down to the counties and to the local cities. And that means the burden would come to us without any revenue to support it. So just some of the experiences that we've had with the state revolving loan program on money that they've received from the federal government that they've been holding onto and have had a difficult time of administering, I think we're going to see other challenges come our way in the near future, including the various types of grants that we've benefited from at all levels of local government including the park grants, which we've now started making progress on improving our parks and some of our recreational spaces, and we've benefited from, you know, over $300,000 in grants from, you know, from the state. So just as you folks are out there in the community and as this ramps up because it's just the beginning and there's going to be lots of rhetoric, lots of headlines in the paper, but at the end of the day, it will have an impact on us. And the Finance Committee will need to work on this monthly, review it, work with our Finance Director, We're going to need to stay in constant communication with our local elected officials with Senator Leno and Assemblyman Huffman and the others to make sure that our interests are protected. And we can't do that alone either. Again, working with the Marin County elected officials, mayors, and council members through the MCCMC is going to be important. And then again, look at regional. And that's where the League of California Cities is so important and also somewhat powerful because they represent all of the cities and we were able to take action a few years ago when we wanted to protect local revenues and we did it in this past election with prop 22 to close that loophole so recognize that we're not alone and it's important that we reach out to our our neighbors and that we're communicating what's going on that are affecting our residents and our businesses here in town and and then just basically our ability to do basic services for our community so I just wanted to share that that was a topic of conversation and discussion at the chamber meeting today, which leads to a positive opportunity in which will be discussed at the Business Advisory Committee on Thursday, which is the coming of the America's Cup, and that does really bring some stimulus, financial stimulus to the region as has been discussed in the news and in the headlines and I think our community if you look at the preferred stage of at least one of the races it has it coming right through our waterfront from about Dumpy Park down Bridgeway out to the Golden Gate Bridge which creates a great opportunity for our community to benefit from as a viewing location and then also as a location for visitors to come in so the The BAC has this on its agenda to talk about opportunities and then the mayor at a subsequent meeting may make some recommendations to the council via the BAC. But we're a few years away from the race taking place but as we experience in any event the The quicker you get ahead of the situation and start planning, the better prepared you are. But as we experience in any event, the quicker you get ahead of the situation and start planning, the better prepared you are to deal with the America's Cup and the opportunities that they bring to town. the MCC MC has their upcoming council meeting or dinner in on January 26th Wednesday night and it's in Mill Valley they're hosting and it will be at the community center I think you all received this flyer if you haven't I have it here and you can take a look make sure that they definitely have a menu choice on this one. So please let us know. flyer if you haven't I have it here and you can take a look and make sure that they definitely have a menu choice on this one so please let us know if you're attending and also your preferred choice. |
| 03:35:02.42 | Adam Politzer | The storm season was discussed really briefly when we were talking about sewer related items. We just went through some significant storms in the past month or so. It was nice to see that our staff, both in preparation for the storms, had done a good job in preventing any major challenges. We had the flooding down at K5 Road which we traditionally have but I think we saw good teamwork between the fire department, the police department, the public works department during those heavy rains. The nice thing that we reported at the chamber meeting today was that we didn't have any power go out. |
| 03:35:46.28 | Unknown | um, |
| 03:35:46.82 | Adam Politzer | And that was a change. |
| 03:35:46.85 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:35:48.66 | Adam Politzer | that we haven't experienced before. So not only did our teamwork with the chamber and the city working with PG&E to improve our reliability of power, but I think we've also strengthened that relationship with PG&E as issues come up they're very quick to respond and try to be proactive working with both the city and the business members that were affected in previous years. |
| 03:36:19.84 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:36:20.06 | Adam Politzer | as we're going through our first web streaming experience, learning to be a bit of a TV producer here. by shifting the direction of the camera. Forgive me if I fall asleep and have it pointed in one direction for longer than necessary. We'll get that under control. But we definitely want your feedback and the public's feedback. And so as we talk about feedback from the parking system, I think it's also important that this is an opportunity for people to participate in our government. |
| 03:36:34.07 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:36:37.58 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:36:55.50 | Adam Politzer | at the ease of their home and as Councilmember Leon mentioned earlier when Rhett was presenting, to get it onto Comcast is our goal. to get it on Comcast Live. |
| 03:37:08.41 | Unknown | Um, |
| 03:37:08.78 | Adam Politzer | or with the same type of delay. It's a possibility. We're just competing against whatever other city may have that same night, which I believe San Anselmo |
| 03:37:19.33 | Jonathan Leone | The quality of what you have can't go on the TV live. It would have to go onto the website live. And they can do multiple cities at the same time. |
| 03:37:29.27 | Adam Politzer | We're exploring that. It's our understanding that we can actually, the feed, the wiring that we've created will give us the ability to transmit to TVs. |
| 03:37:38.45 | Jonathan Leone | to a TV. Yeah, I don't think the iNet is powerful enough to do it. But Tiburon, you can find out if they do it. |
| 03:37:44.69 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, well it's still our goal and it may be something during the budget process if we need to upgrade but I think ultimately our goal is to give the public the opportunity to participate in the actions of the city council and the city and the ability not to sit here from 7 o'clock at night till 1030 to have their item heard to be able to watch Now I can take my time. seen that tonight with staff both Jeremy Graves and Captain or our Acting Chief, John Robacher, Both were able to work at their desk, be productive, and then when the item was approaching they came. So for our staff, you know, that's going to be very helpful, but we also hope that the residents have that same value and so their feedback is very important as is the council's feedback since you folks are on stage and I'm sitting here pushing the buttons. We still need to schedule our strategic planning retreat and so now that the holidays are over I will be asking you to give up a Monday or a Friday so if you want to be proactive and not wait for my email go ahead and send me a |
| 03:38:53.41 | Unknown | Ah. |
| 03:39:04.56 | Adam Politzer | the Mondays and Fridays that you know that you are not available. But if you want to wait for my email, that is also fine. And we will get that scheduled here as quickly as we possibly can because it's now important to move forward, especially as we look at the priority calendar and the midyear budget review and then our next review of the budget in July. So the two last items that I have on here is that the mayor and I are both attending the league of California City's academy for new mayors and council members and we will be out of the office here Wednesday the 19th through Friday I believe the 21st and both Herbie and I have had an opportunity to talk about trying to get some time with our local officials and set up times to meet with them while we're in Sacramento. So we hopefully have something good to report back when we return. |
| 03:40:12.35 | Unknown | of us. |
| 03:40:14.14 | Adam Politzer | The last is the police chief recruitment and I had communicated to you folks during the holidays because of the unfortunate early release of information on the top candidate and how we were moving forward with the top candidate both in negotiations and also in background in medical and psychiatric exam that they need to pass before they can actually be offered the job. And the MarinScope was a little aggressive there where they wanted to release the story ahead of time before the IJ broke the story. I've communicated with MarinScope and I think that our future is bright and they've understood my concerns and we've moved past it. The good news is that we had an exceptional cast of candidates that went through the process and we had a very strong group of panelists both from the community, from the professional peers of chiefs, and also from our internal staff. I think I shared with you at the last meeting that the staff panel was acting as city council and the candidates had to give a PowerPoint presentation and then answer questions from the role playing of the city council and that went very well the community panel gave a lot of very valuable insight from their perspective as did the professional panel we went through a very long process that included you know the screening down from 114 to 114 applications, 35, down to 35, 35. Of the 35, we invited 16 to be interviewed. Of the 16 that were interviewed, we recommended seven to come into the internal process that included our three different panels. From that, that information was all reviewed. took into account the comments from the earlier interviews that they had attended in the list of 16. and they met with Debbie Pagliaro, myself, and Jeff Shirash for another hour and a half. And then from there, they met with me for another an hour and a half to two hours, again, looking at the fit with the community, the fit with the staff, the fit with their peers, and their fit with me. And at the conclusion of that, as reported in the paper, Jennifer Tejada was our number one candidate. She received 13 out of 14 number one or number two votes from the 14 members that served on the panels. And from the final interview process, including Jeff and Debbie Peglieraera and myself it was unanimous decision that she was absolutely the top candidate and the best fit for our community. So we're very excited. She still does need to go through the final stages here. I got a report is on the way. I got a phone call from the background investigator that says the report has been complete. It's in the mail. And that there's no restrictions or hesitations from his background investigation on reasons why we would not hire her. She now needs to go through medical. She clears medical. She goes through the psych. |
| 03:43:09.92 | Unknown | Mm. |
| 03:43:55.91 | Adam Politzer | and she cleared psych. She'll be able to give notice to the city of Nevada. give notice to the City of Novato, and it's our anticipation that she would start here the week of February 28th. So it's a long, drawn-out process, I'm very excited. I've been in constant communications with Jennifer since we reached that decision. and anticipate having her start the 28th of February, and then having a meet and greet with the community in early March, opportunity to present her to the community and for her to say a few words and then social for them to meet. It's similar to what they've done in other communities as recent as what they did in Twin Cities when Todd Cusimano was appointed chief or what they did in Novato when Joe Crimes was appointed chief or what they did in San Rafael when John Roebucker was appointed chief. So it's a custom that I'd like to adopt here in Sausalito and look forward to that special day. That concludes my report. Happy to answer any questions to the council. |
| 03:45:06.83 | Jonathan Leone | Okay. I just have three quick things, if I might. One. So did you get a copy, or did Jeremy, |
| 03:45:10.14 | Unknown | Uh... |
| 03:45:15.18 | Jonathan Leone | Somebody did an economic study of the America's Cup impact on. I have somebody sent me a copy. All right, I'll see if I can find it. I'll give it to you for Thursday. Senator Radder, would you? No, it's a hard copy. It's like this thick. No, that's right. Yeah. It's the first two pages. I got something for the League of Cities thing about there's the North Bay Executive wants to meet with you and get all the people who are attending to attend that. Do you want that one? Yes, I asked people. |
| 03:45:28.97 | Carolyn Ford | No. |
| 03:45:30.79 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:45:30.95 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:45:48.97 | Adam Politzer | Yes, IRS VP for the mayor and I. |
| 03:45:52.09 | Jonathan Leone | And the machine shop thing, I don't know what the petition thing is all about, but we need to communicate out to the community what you're already doing, what the city's already doing in a better fashion than relying on the Marenscope so that people don't feel the need to run around and get 300 petitions. So if you could find out a way to do that, whether it's through In the Loop or some other mechanism. |
| 03:46:13.94 | Adam Politzer | It's our intention to we sent a communication to the council over the holidays so that you are aware of the progress and the steps that staff was and is taking as well as the HLB. And so I think it's our intent to come to the next meeting or the first meeting in February with a report. the VA, has incredibly now reached out to us and would like to meet in February with the city. So I think that our efforts, as the Leafs, gotten them to get back into communication with the city. But I will check back with you. I know that Heidi and Jeremy and members of the HLB have had a lot of discussion on this and progress and I'll see if they are ready to come and give an update at the 25th and then we can take direction from council on how much you would like us to communicate. We can obviously put a lot of this information on our website. We're going to come forward to you at the next meeting, I believe, to reinitiate a new version of In the Loop because we retired In the Loop. And so now we need to to reinitiate it so that is coming to you in the very near future and then we can use that tool again to communicate to the public. |
| 03:47:35.36 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:47:35.45 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:47:35.58 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:47:35.60 | Unknown | you |
| 03:47:37.37 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:47:37.39 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:47:37.44 | Herb Weiner | So... Let's move on with the next item. Appointments of council members, the boards, committees, liaison. I really don't want to spend much time on this tonight. I think what we'll do, Debbie, is maybe send out a list of the recommendations that we have for |
| 03:47:59.73 | Mike Kelly | Do we need a couple of them before? |
| 03:48:01.54 | Herb Weiner | Yeah, well, by the next meeting, I would like to fill these other seats as far as committees. |
| 03:48:08.37 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. committees. |
| 03:48:11.31 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:48:12.39 | Herb Weiner | right away. the UNFL list that we mentioned. and I've been looking for it and I can't find it. I've already made out the list, but I don't have a clue. |
| 03:48:25.21 | Adam Politzer | Mr. Mayor, as Councilmember Kelly, I think, is suggesting we... It's my understanding that we have a Finance Committee meeting next week and a OMIT meeting, and we need those two committees appointed. |
| 03:48:33.77 | Herb Weiner | Yeah. And we need those two committees. Councilmember Kelly and Councilmember Leon on the Finance Committee. And on the OMIT committee, It'll be Thank you. myself and Councilmember Kelly. |
| 03:48:52.74 | Mike Kelly | We'll do this by the next time. |
| 03:48:54.31 | Herb Weiner | And then, Debbie, maybe we could send out that list on the others, and I'll review this. Moving right along, I want to get 11, 11, 11, and it's almost 11. |
| 03:49:07.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:49:10.19 | Herb Weiner | future agenda items. |
| 03:49:13.86 | Linda Pfeifer | So I... |
| 03:49:14.20 | Herb Weiner | I remember five months. |
| 03:49:15.50 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:49:15.64 | Linda Pfeifer | Hi, thank you. I guess one would be term limits. Take a look at that. And one would be renaming the OMIT committee. I don't know if that warrants an agenda item or if it's something that the OMIT committee... |
| 03:49:30.40 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:49:30.42 | Carolyn Ford | that the Omen Committee |
| 03:49:32.04 | Linda Pfeifer | Bye. |
| 03:49:32.11 | Carolyn Ford | You wanna omit the omit? |
| 03:49:32.24 | Linda Pfeifer | Oh, my God. Omid, the omid. Omid, omid. Yeah. Nobody knows what it means. Just in the interest of transparency. So, thanks. |
| 03:49:33.66 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:49:34.96 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:49:35.03 | Carolyn Ford | you |
| 03:49:35.30 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:49:36.82 | Herb Weiner | just to Thanks. Bye. Okay, thank you. Moving along, next item, Council Member Committee reports. We'll get into that. I really want to stress the fact that I would like to hear some reports so the other Council Members are aware of what's going on. And also to keep in mind, please, in the future, if some of these meetings are not going to be able to make it, give me a call and I would like to fill in for you to make sure that we have representation there. |
| 03:50:16.28 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:50:16.30 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Yes. |
| 03:50:16.44 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:50:16.59 | Unknown | Yeah. Thank you. |
| 03:50:18.36 | Linda Pfeifer | Mr. Mayor, can I give a quick report on a little addendum to the HEC comment? |
| 03:50:25.01 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:50:25.03 | Unknown | Real quick. Yeah, real quick. |
| 03:50:25.82 | Linda Pfeifer | Real quick. So there was a question raised as to who had given notice that they weren't going to be able to meet the meeting. this last night and just for the record, Kim Stoddard gave us the heads up. She wouldn't be able to come. Thank you. |
| 03:50:40.33 | Unknown | you |
| 03:50:40.53 | Linda Pfeifer | Joan Cox sent an email to me just before the meeting And Joel Paul emailed me during the meeting that he had an emergency work. |
| 03:50:47.50 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Well, that's what we want. We want it to be in the ball game. Okay, next. Other reports. The only comment I'd like to make is that I am forming an ad hoc committee for the America's Cup. And so if you have any input of names that you think that could really help us significantly, I really would appreciate that. Thank you. And... I think, for now, that's all. |
| 03:51:19.55 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:51:21.14 | Herb Weiner | What? Oh. Thank you. starting in February. I will have an office hours at City Hall And it'll be, first we're gonna start it off one, We will start it off at one Wednesday a month, and it will be from 9.30 in the morning to noontime. and then from 6 to 8 o'clock at night. My first one would probably be Clay Bell, but anyway. I'm sorry. I'll let you know that might be the first. |
| 03:51:59.56 | Adam Politzer | first day but last one |
| 03:52:00.93 | Herb Weiner | I don't cure you. But anyway, and if you have some suggestions that you think would be advantageous to me to do, I'd appreciate that also. And with that, meeting adjourned at 11 o'clock. |
| 03:52:01.82 | Adam Politzer | I don't care. |
| 03:52:03.68 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:52:18.26 | Clayton Heddle | Great. |
| 03:52:22.86 | Unknown | Amen. |
| 03:52:23.45 | Unknown | Thank you. |
Jeanne Fidler — Neutral: Expressed concern about City Hall and library closures during holidays, noting the library is a community center and place of comfort, and asked the council to consider this for the future. ▶ 📄
Clayton Heddle — Neutral: Requested a callback from Mayor Herb Weiner regarding ongoing issues, indicating repeated attempts to contact him via email. ▶ 📄
Mike Monsef — In Favor: Thanked city staff (Mr. Goldman) for cleaning drainage under stairs to address water damage, noting his own previously installed pipe was the only functional one. ▶ 📄
Vicki Nichols — In Favor: Urged the council to support giving residents a choice regarding smart meter installations, referencing Marin County's moratorium and suggesting the city's wireless ordinance might require conditional use permits for smart meter transmitters. ▶ 📄