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| 00:00:04.67 | Carolyn Ford | Don't do it. Thank you. |
| 00:00:22.71 | Carolyn Ford | Amen. Any relation to Kelly, the astronaut there? |
| 00:00:25.53 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:00:25.56 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:25.63 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:00:25.73 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:25.80 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:00:25.88 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:26.04 | Herb Weiner | relations to |
| 00:00:27.08 | Nancy Osborne | Thank you. |
| 00:00:30.91 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:33.21 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:00:33.44 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:33.61 | Unknown | you |
| 00:00:33.66 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:33.87 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:33.93 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:35.44 | Carolyn Ford | How can we go to the chair? Because I can play. I gave a huge test. Thank you. |
| 00:00:40.63 | Unknown | Whatever happened to the |
| 00:00:52.58 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:00:56.06 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. you you Thank you very much. |
| 00:01:03.09 | Herb Weiner | Well, we believe in keep it sharp and simple. |
| 00:01:04.58 | Carolyn Ford | Simple. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:01:15.23 | Herb Weiner | Oh, he'll make it. Don't worry. |
| 00:01:16.83 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:01:30.77 | Herb Weiner | I forgot my glasses. OK, we ready? Good evening and welcome to the meeting on February 16th. the proper campaign. Have a roll call. I won't call you Debbie. |
| 00:01:49.55 | Adam Politzer | This is Adam Pulitzer, city manager, and I'll be sitting in for the city clerk. And we'll call roll. Councilmember Pfeiffer. Thank you. |
| 00:01:58.73 | Linda Pfeifer | Here. |
| 00:01:58.97 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:01:59.08 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:01:59.10 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:01:59.56 | Adam Politzer | Councilmember Ford. Councilmember Kelly. Chairman. Mayor Weiner. |
| 00:02:04.94 | Herb Weiner | Present and as Vice Mayor Kelly. |
| 00:02:10.95 | Linda Pfeifer | Good. |
| 00:02:13.06 | Herb Weiner | Ha ha ha. of me being technical at something. Um... Okay, we're going to go in closed session to go over items D1 to 4. |
| 00:02:20.84 | Nancy Osborne | They would. |
| 00:02:28.41 | Herb Weiner | and that's negotiation on our on property. I believe that's the. MOTION. Sausalito Marine, and then litigation on Zax. litigation on Bruce. and to discuss the... Um. Sausalito Yathap. Yes, sir. since there's nobody in the audience. This time here we'll go to closed session. Bingo. |
| 00:03:08.64 | Carolyn Ford | Go ahead. |
| 00:03:14.99 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah. Thank you. |
| 00:03:28.56 | Carolyn Ford | Is that better or is it still low? Thank you. |
| 00:05:15.96 | Carolyn Ford | I just want to be back. |
| 00:05:18.61 | Linda Pfeifer | . |
| 00:05:20.61 | Carolyn Ford | I don't know. |
| 00:05:20.89 | Linda Pfeifer | Amen. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:05:28.13 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:05:29.60 | Nancy Osborne | Thank you. |
| 00:05:31.17 | Carolyn Ford | you |
| 00:05:44.11 | Carolyn Ford | My kind of guy. |
| 00:05:44.67 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:05:45.92 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Thank you. Oh, hey, all of a sudden... |
| 00:05:49.83 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:05:49.97 | Mike Kelly | Hey. |
| 00:06:00.82 | Carolyn Ford | Hey Adam, what are you doing? |
| 00:06:02.00 | Nancy Osborne | I'm going to go ahead. |
| 00:06:02.71 | Linda Pfeifer | . |
| 00:06:03.97 | Nancy Osborne | Thank you. |
| 00:06:18.82 | Carolyn Ford | Oh, yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, God. Oh, God. Thank you. at him. Thank you. |
| 00:06:41.27 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:06:48.78 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:06:57.97 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:07:04.52 | Carolyn Ford | I don't know. I thought the month of 72 was just really right. Thank you. |
| 00:07:18.14 | Carolyn Ford | you Thank you. Yes, well, I know. |
| 00:07:44.92 | Jonathon Goldman | Test. Test 1-2 |
| 00:08:10.57 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Okay. Thank you. |
| 00:08:15.19 | Herb Weiner | Thank God we have first. |
| 00:08:33.03 | Herb Weiner | Won't help. |
| 00:08:37.84 | Carolyn Ford | Yes. |
| 00:08:40.40 | Herb Weiner | Okay, we ready? Good evening, folks. Have a seat. You don't have to sit down if you don't want to in the back. And, uh, like to call this a meaning to order the February 15th, 2011 meeting. And at this time here, local |
| 00:09:06.16 | Adam Politzer | Councilmember Pfeiffer? Here. Councilmember Ford? Here. Vice Mayor Kelly? Here. Mayor Weiner? |
| 00:09:07.49 | Carolyn Ford | Here. |
| 00:09:07.91 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:09:07.96 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:09:09.33 | Herb Weiner | here. |
| 00:09:09.67 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:09:11.07 | Herb Weiner | here. THE COUNTRY IS At this time here, we'll have the Pledge of Allegiance. And Jerry, you can lead us, please. Thank you. with us. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, one nation. |
| 00:09:27.54 | David Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:09:27.55 | Mike Kelly | I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, |
| 00:09:35.98 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:09:36.08 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:09:36.09 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:09:36.11 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Jerry. |
| 00:09:43.99 | Carolyn Ford | laughter Thank you. What was that? I wanted to make sure you were talking to me. |
| 00:09:49.79 | Herb Weiner | Well, the noise comes from the back sometimes. |
| 00:09:50.35 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:09:54.23 | Herb Weiner | We had closed session and we talked about items one to four. We went over the... negotiation on the Bridgeway Marine. Zacks versus Sausalito, Fuchs versus Sausalito, and communication number of Sausalito-Yar Harbor. Uh... At this time here, is there any comments on the closed item? I move for the approval of the agenda. |
| 00:10:28.57 | Mike Kelly | approval |
| 00:10:30.13 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:10:30.14 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:10:30.25 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:10:30.29 | Mike Kelly | Circus. |
| 00:10:30.31 | Herb Weiner | you Yes. |
| 00:10:36.59 | Chuck Donald | Thank you. session items. |
| 00:10:38.24 | Herb Weiner | Well, you did. All right, then. Knowing it's you, Chuck, you get the house. |
| 00:10:40.42 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:10:40.44 | Chuck Donald | I'm not sure. |
| 00:10:40.52 | Carolyn Ford | Bye. |
| 00:10:45.25 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:10:45.48 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:10:45.52 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:10:45.55 | Herb Weiner | Check it to you. |
| 00:10:47.83 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:10:47.93 | Herb Weiner | Perfect. Sorry about that. |
| 00:10:52.15 | Chuck Donald | No, I know how it goes. Very well. The question I wanted to raise |
| 00:10:52.16 | Herb Weiner | No, I know how it does. |
| 00:10:52.98 | Mike Kelly | goes very well. |
| 00:10:55.96 | Mary Wagner | I'm sorry. |
| 00:11:00.30 | Chuck Donald | was what property are we talking about? Bridgeway Marine owns a lot of land out there. And are we talking about, I don't expect you to answer this particularly, but are we talking about one parcel, all of the parcels? or some particular group of parcels. I don't think that necessarily has to I don't think that necessarily needs to be secret. The price and so forth would be, but Thank you. And if I read this right, the land is not described. And there's always interest in that, so I would like to know. what land we're talking about. |
| 00:11:32.46 | Herb Weiner | Well, as a smart person that I always learn, you always seek the advice of your attorney. Thank you. Erin. |
| 00:11:38.84 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:11:38.88 | Herb Weiner | I'm sorry. |
| 00:11:40.66 | Mary Wagner | Thank you, Mr. Mayor. No intent certainly to hide the ball on which property. It was all the property that's owned by Bridgeway Marine, which includes the Peninsula piece, if you will, the piece which is occupied by the existing marina and related buildings, and then the water parcels as well. I believe there are I want to say seven, but I don't. Chuck will correct me if I'm wrong. |
| 00:12:07.93 | Herb Weiner | He'll be looking it up tomorrow. |
| 00:12:09.91 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:12:10.58 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, Chuck. There was a motion on there to approval of the agenda. harm. Vice Mayor Kelly and seconded. |
| 00:12:21.40 | Carolyn Ford | I seconded. |
| 00:12:22.45 | Herb Weiner | by Council Member Ford. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. |
| 00:12:25.75 | Carolyn Ford | Aye. |
| 00:12:30.70 | Herb Weiner | Let's see what it is. Let's move on to approval of the minutes of the meeting of January 25th. Oh, I'm sorry. |
| 00:12:39.32 | Mary Wagner | Mr. Mayor, I apologize. |
| 00:12:40.15 | Herb Weiner | Oh, yeah. Sorry. Oh, yeah. |
| 00:12:41.33 | Mary Wagner | Oh, yeah. There is a special presentation this evening. |
| 00:12:43.79 | Herb Weiner | Yes, sir. She'll let me know tomorrow. Okay. Yeah. |
| 00:12:53.65 | Herb Weiner | Chief, we're ready for you. |
| 00:12:57.46 | Unknown | Dr. Wood for a second. Good evening, Mayor and members of the City Council. It's always a pleasure to be able to introduce new police department employees. However, tonight it's even more special by the fact that it's Chris Majora and that she's been a part-time city employee already since the year 2000. So in March, it would have been her 11th year anniversary as a part-time employee working as our lead parking attendant. But after a very long dating relationship, she's decided she'd like to make this permanent. |
| 00:13:32.00 | Linda Pfeifer | And she |
| 00:13:32.31 | Unknown | and she accepted our offer of permanent employment as a Full time. Parking enforcement officer. |
| 00:13:38.96 | Linda Pfeifer | you I agree. |
| 00:13:39.63 | Unknown | Tonight we're going to do a swearing in and a badge pinning. |
| 00:13:45.47 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. I. You saw him in the room? Wait, wait for the beat. But I will support and defend. |
| 00:13:57.05 | Mike Kelly | Wait, wait for the beep. |
| 00:14:01.69 | Unknown | Thank you. the Constitution of the United States. |
| 00:14:05.75 | Carolyn Ford | in the United States. |
| 00:14:07.19 | Unknown | and the Constitution of the State of California against all enemies. |
| 00:14:12.91 | Carolyn Ford | All right. |
| 00:14:13.67 | Unknown | Thank you. Foreign and domestic. That I will bear truth, faith, and allegiance. to the Constitution of the United States. and the Constitution of the State of California I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation. for the purpose of the nation. and that I will well and faithfully |
| 00:14:42.00 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:14:43.39 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:14:43.72 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:14:44.53 | Unknown | you Discharge the duties. Discharge the duties. upon which I'm about to enter. Thank you. |
| 00:15:04.70 | Mike Kelly | It seems like your sons would do the bathroom. Keep it in the family. |
| 00:15:29.32 | Unknown | Thank you. Just slam it. You shouldn't have preached. |
| 00:15:30.06 | Carolyn Ford | You shouldn't have with that. |
| 00:15:34.65 | Unknown | I'm going to go. |
| 00:15:34.97 | Carolyn Ford | . |
| 00:15:37.03 | Linda Pfeifer | . Thank you. |
| 00:15:37.54 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:15:37.55 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:15:39.39 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:15:54.08 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:15:54.80 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:15:54.87 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:15:55.26 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. you |
| 00:16:36.97 | Unknown | Thank you. Congratulations. Congratulations again. If you'd like to say a couple words and introduce your family and your son |
| 00:16:59.86 | Linda Pfeifer | Jeez. |
| 00:17:07.25 | Herb Weiner | And thank you, John. Okay. At this time here we'll move for the approval. Now we'll go back to that. The approval of the No, I'm still... |
| 00:17:16.00 | Mary Wagner | I mean, communications is a vitamin son on the internet. |
| 00:17:16.48 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. of items . |
| 00:17:17.83 | Herb Weiner | Oh, public communications. |
| 00:17:18.57 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:17:18.64 | Mary Wagner | Bye. |
| 00:17:18.65 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:17:19.06 | Mary Wagner | communications. |
| 00:17:21.54 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 00:17:23.36 | Mike Kelly | I got one over there too. |
| 00:17:24.64 | Herb Weiner | No, that's – would there anybody that would like to speak on items that are not on the agenda and now call out the names? Chuck Donald, you're on again. Who says lightning doesn't strike twice? |
| 00:17:40.93 | Unknown | Yeah. Check. |
| 00:17:48.12 | Chuck Donald | I don't mind starring twice in the same show, but what am I called up this time for? My next item is item 6C, and we're not there yet. Oh, all right. |
| 00:17:54.82 | Nancy Osborne | him. |
| 00:17:55.04 | Herb Weiner | Success. |
| 00:17:56.54 | Nancy Osborne | Yeah. |
| 00:17:56.56 | Herb Weiner | And, Thank you. Shows you how I run a meeting. Anyway. you Gerry Robinson. |
| 00:18:11.05 | Jerry Robinson | Mayor, City Council. I'm going to bring up a subject that's been long Sore subject around here. and that's the anchor house in Richardson Bank. For years, for people who don't know, my name is Joey Robertson. I run the yachts down here in Clipper Basin. And I'd been running the boats and charters out of Susne Loved every second of it, and I don't plan on stopping. But there's been an issue in the recent years that has been very troubling. And that is the anchor doubts in Sausalito. I count 140 of them as of a couple days ago. Um, I've had machines stolen from my storage locker at Arkez. that was a while ago, but you know, Stuff disappears like that, and you don't worry about it too much. But a month or two ago, I was in the harbor. and, I saw a boat go by with the upward engine on the back of it that was stolen from my property. So I fired the guy around a little bit, led out to one of these boats, and lo and behold, not only is my engine on the back of one of his boats, but my boat lift is out there, two anchors, And I tell you, I was just outraged that it's all sitting there. I flagged down a sheriff that happened to be in the harbor from San Francisco. uh... got his attention i was able to get the police from sausalito on the sheriff's boat we went out and investigated i was in touch with the sheriff's department uh... and so forth, so on. Our harbor master, Bill Price, I'm going to try to make this as short as I can. my behalf there's nothing that we can do about it Evidently. My stuff's out there. Other people's property's out there. These boats are loaded with stuff. they're still still I've had my I've been ripped off at my house up on Spencer twice, and I don't know if it was those guys. I've had cars stolen from my car deck up on Spencer. And then I find threatening letters on my office down at Clipper Harbor. And it's all documented. Um... I want something done about it. I'm sick of it. We've got a really important thing coming up, America's Cup. We need anchorage space for these guys that are going to come in these mega yachts. They're going to want to spend some dough. Um. and I'm outraged. I don't know what to do anymore. I've written everybody. I've called everybody. I've had the sheriffs out there. And I just don't know what to do. I'm just beside myself. I guess I'm just putting my hands up and asking for help and whatever we can do. I don't know how to help. I have some suggestions. One brief thing. 140 boats. If we just collected $50 a month, From these 140 boats, it would be $7,000 a month. Just note. |
| 00:21:29.99 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:21:30.70 | Jerry Robinson | Thank you so much. All right. Thank you, Jerry. |
| 00:21:31.36 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:21:31.47 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:21:32.17 | Herb Weiner | All right, thank you, Jerry. And I will be in touch with you, Jerry. Thank you. Next person we have is Alfred. |
| 00:21:35.17 | Jerry Robinson | Thank you. |
| 00:21:42.63 | Alfred Nucifora | Thank you, Mr. Mayor, City Council. I reside at 43 Cable Roadway in Sorcelete. I request your help. Yeah, excuse me, just pronounce your full name. NUCIFORA, N-U-C-I-F-O-R-A, Alfred. Thank you. 29 months ago, I wrote to the city manager, the fire chief, the chief of police, requesting that a vehicle be sighted and or towed from outside the entrance to our property. I got a response from the police department, a visit from Sergeant Scoob, told him the problems, he interviewed the neighbor. Neighbor told him that it was not city property, vehicle was not going to be moved. Officer said there was nothing he could do about it. The city would have to decide whether or not it was public, the vehicle was on public or private land, and I'd have to pay for a survey. So I chose not to do that. And then, lo and behold, June 2nd last year, we had the infamous runaway bobcat incident. which went through the roadway, unfortunately didn't take the damn truck with it. I'm So I got a report from the architect who's working on what's on the agenda tonight, like the property at Forty Cabell there, but the colonel's. and this report is showed we told that the truck is on simply I went down to the police department on the 19th of of November of last year, filed a formal complaint, requested that the truck be, the citation be issued, the truck be removed, received an ask call back from Officer Thomas Georges in early December, who advised that the issue had gone to the Planning Department with a possible response in January. Ten weeks later, no response. So now we're up to two and a half years. The car's been parked there for about four years. You can see the photographs. If we can rotate through there, you can see it's being used as a storage unit. There's one shot here. That's going down Cable Roadway. And you can see it's being used as a permanent storage unit. So, It contravenes city ordinances if, in fact, it is on public property. It's simply a fire and an RMS hazard because you can't get an EMS truck or a fire truck down cable roadway, which provides a severe liability issue for the city in the event that our property is burned out and one of us has severe health issues. It's an eye sore. My riders, including 43, 45, 47, and myself at 43, have exceptionally given to getting out of their own driveway. So I'd like to issue a final request that the vehicle be ticketed, that a no-parking sign be placed there, and that staff be requested to proceed accordingly prior to the next council meeting. Thank you, Jim. |
| 00:24:27.33 | Herb Weiner | Mm-hmm. |
| 00:24:27.58 | Alfred Nucifora | Bye. |
| 00:24:27.72 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you, Alfred. Um, next one, Michael Rex. |
| 00:24:39.34 | Michael Racks | I'm speaking on behalf of the Richardson's Bay Maritime Association, and I'd like to request that I direct staff to put on your agenda a presentation that the RBMA would like to make. for its maritime museum on the property owned by the Veterans Administration. And that's the Bay Model. I know the city's been in communications with the state and the Veterans Administration about the future of that property, and we'd like to inform the Council of some possibilities that could occur on that property that would be of great benefit to the community. A project we've been working on now for probably eight years. So if we could make a brief presentation at an appropriate time, we'd most appreciate it. Thank you. |
| 00:25:25.72 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, Michael. So anybody else? chat. I mean, I can call you by your first time |
| 00:25:33.02 | Chuck Donald | I know. Jeff Donald again. I hate to hog this show, but we've had a couple of comments here about uh, Police action. I would like to just make one. I intended to make this at a council meeting a couple weeks ago, but I Let's hear it too late. I I was a victim of identity theft at my bank. There were false charges, fraudulent charges, made on the order of about $2,000. Fortunately, the bank acknowledged the refracted and made it up. When I wanted to report this to the district attorney's office, and he said they won't take any Uh, comments from me unless it comes from the Social Office Department. So I went to the Sausalito Police Department Talk to an officer there, and he says, I'll have someone call you. Later on someone called me and I did meet with him and he said, There's nothing we can do. And I agree with him as it ends up. It's not. That kind of a theft, where some guy sitting in a coffee shop somewhere with his laptop can dial into my bank account and make charges against it and there's investigating something like that is horrendous. You don't even know where to start. So the Saucolita Police Department says they just don't do it. Mike, my request to you, to the Council, is that a policy be adopted and announced. of how the police department is to respond to that sort of thing. the district attorney won't accept it unless... that the Social Police Department says, they'll look at it and the Sausalito department says, If we don't have the people, we can't do it. I know it's an impossible question, I'm not going to carry it any further, but I think of policy. that the police department will not investigate those. should be known to other people who may report it. Thank you. |
| 00:27:17.60 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, Chuck. and that's certainly some a problem that's becoming more and more Thank you. No. All right. At this time here, I'd like to move for approval of the minutes from the January 25th meeting. |
| 00:27:35.23 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:27:35.60 | Linda Pfeifer | Um, I have one. |
| 00:27:37.93 | Herb Weiner | Council Member Foy, Council Member Fyfer. |
| 00:27:38.98 | Linda Pfeifer | Out there. by first. Thank you, Mayor Weiner. |
| 00:27:43.47 | Herb Weiner | Right, left. Oh! |
| 00:27:44.43 | Linda Pfeifer | I didn't fucking do that. So I just have one little edit. |
| 00:27:50.35 | Herb Weiner | Watch that show, I want you. |
| 00:27:52.21 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. you page 5 and it's line 10 and it's under future agenda items where it says Council Member Pfeiffer requested an update on the economic study and I just wanted to add with respect to protecting current marineship zoning. Again so it would read Council Member Pfeiffer requested an update on the economic study with respect to protecting current marineship zoning. So I'm going to because that was the context in which I requested that agenda item. And I know we're not jumping to the other minutes, but I have the same comment on 3B5. |
| 00:28:37.67 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Thank you. We can include that. Is that alright? Okay. With that now, can you? Thank you. |
| 00:28:53.13 | Mike Kelly | Move approval. Thank you. |
| 00:28:54.04 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:28:54.31 | Mike Kelly | . |
| 00:28:54.36 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:28:54.38 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:28:54.39 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:28:55.03 | Herb Weiner | I'm in favor. Aye. |
| 00:28:56.01 | Linda Pfeifer | Bye. |
| 00:28:56.32 | Mike Kelly | Nice. And that's the first. So, |
| 00:28:57.31 | Herb Weiner | So, |
| 00:28:57.33 | Mike Kelly | you |
| 00:28:57.62 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:28:57.63 | Mike Kelly | Right. |
| 00:28:57.92 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:28:57.97 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:28:58.02 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Okay, next is on the meeting on the February 1st meeting, approval of the minutes, and Councilmember Feifling. |
| 00:29:09.04 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you, Mayor Weiner. Just my other edit again, this time on line 5. Council Member Freiber again requested that the economic study be placed on a future agenda. Economic study with respect to protecting current marinship zoning be placed on a future agenda. And the rest of it is accurate transparency of the MLK finance restructuring. And that's, yeah. |
| 00:29:40.85 | Herb Weiner | Adam, you have that? Okay, with that, |
| 00:29:41.86 | Linda Pfeifer | you |
| 00:29:43.52 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:29:43.82 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:29:44.04 | Herb Weiner | Second. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Okay, carries. |
| 00:29:44.53 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:29:46.06 | Linda Pfeifer | Bye. |
| 00:29:51.01 | Herb Weiner | All right, now we have moved to the consent calendar. And uh... Oh, I know you have something to say. I can see, I can feel it. Council Member Vyver. |
| 00:30:03.95 | Linda Pfeifer | a favour? |
| 00:30:06.28 | Herb Weiner | Oh, I'm sorry. |
| 00:30:06.97 | Linda Pfeifer | you |
| 00:30:07.75 | Herb Weiner | Is there any public comment on any of these items that are on the consent calendar? Okay, with that, bring it back up. That's number five. |
| 00:30:19.34 | Linda Pfeifer | Yes, I would like to pull item 4E, adopt resolution establishing roles and responsibilities of the Housing Element Committee. |
| 00:30:29.69 | Linda Pfeifer | you |
| 00:30:39.44 | Herb Weiner | Well, I guess we could move that somewhere on the business agenda and see how our time is on the back of that. Sure. So we can move that. |
| 00:30:47.69 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:30:47.74 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:30:47.86 | Linda Pfeifer | And then, |
| 00:30:47.93 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:30:47.98 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:30:47.99 | Mary Wagner | you |
| 00:30:48.18 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:30:48.28 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:30:48.38 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:30:48.42 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:30:48.50 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:30:48.65 | Mary Wagner | I'm sorry. |
| 00:30:48.87 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:30:49.62 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:30:49.67 | Linda Pfeifer | Steve. |
| 00:30:51.25 | Herb Weiner | See? |
| 00:30:52.54 | Linda Pfeifer | D as in D. |
| 00:30:53.56 | Mary Wagner | Mr. Mayor, if staff could make a request that because your community development director is here for the midyear budget review, perhaps you could move that up to 6C so that he doesn't have to stay until the bitter end if he doesn't need to. |
| 00:31:09.19 | Herb Weiner | It's a good thing. That's fine. Okay. |
| 00:31:13.66 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:31:13.68 | Carolyn Ford | Mr. Mayor. |
| 00:31:14.52 | Herb Weiner | Yes, Chancellor Member Ford. |
| 00:31:16.09 | Carolyn Ford | I would like to also call for aye. regarding the parks and rec facilities. |
| 00:31:23.94 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:31:27.72 | Carolyn Ford | See? Thank you. No. Can we have a seat? |
| 00:31:30.99 | Mary Wagner | Can staff make the same request, Mr. Mayor, that because your Park and Rec Director, Mike Lankford, is here for the budget, that maybe that could go to six. |
| 00:31:31.57 | Carolyn Ford | stuff. |
| 00:31:31.97 | Carolyn Ford | the same... |
| 00:31:40.29 | Mary Wagner | That would now be D. |
| 00:31:41.89 | Mike Kelly | Okay. Where are we? put it right after A, both of them. What is it? |
| 00:31:52.88 | Herb Weiner | . So, What are we doing now? So that's... |
| 00:31:56.19 | Mary Wagner | So that would make the HEC item 6B and the PARC item would be 6C? |
| 00:31:57.40 | Herb Weiner | Should we say? |
| 00:32:03.85 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. And then everything else is re-lettered accordingly. |
| 00:32:07.09 | Herb Weiner | Okay, that's fine. Thank you. All right, with those two, can I get a motion to approve? What do we got here? |
| 00:32:16.67 | Mike Kelly | See you, Mindi. |
| 00:32:17.67 | Herb Weiner | the amended consent calendar. |
| 00:32:17.79 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:32:17.97 | Alexander Woie | Thank you. |
| 00:32:23.29 | Carolyn Ford | I move that we approve the amended consent calendar, pulling items E and items I, and approve the rest. Thank you. |
| 00:32:35.47 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:32:35.49 | Unknown | you |
| 00:32:35.54 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:32:37.41 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:32:37.43 | Herb Weiner | Okay, all in favor? Hi. Hi. |
| 00:32:38.95 | Carolyn Ford | Bye. Bye. |
| 00:32:39.96 | Herb Weiner | Close. Okay. Thank you. Now we'll move on to, uh, Business items. And at this time here, Charlie Francis will give us a Mid-year budget review. |
| 00:33:12.93 | Charlie Francis | Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of the City Council. I'm Charlie Francis. I'm your Administrative Services Director and Treasurer. And the item before you today is the mid-year budget presentation. |
| 00:33:25.96 | Herb Weiner | you |
| 00:33:26.05 | Charlie Francis | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:33:26.74 | Herb Weiner | Charlie, before you do that, while you're taking a minute, I'd like to announce that Jonathan Leona is not here this evening. He got delayed in Los Angeles on his flight. was I believe was not me be able to make the connections. So let that be in the records. Thank you. |
| 00:33:48.42 | Charlie Francis | Thank you. |
| 00:33:48.47 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:33:48.49 | Charlie Francis | Thank you. |
| 00:33:48.51 | Carolyn Ford | Okay. |
| 00:33:48.86 | Charlie Francis | So for the agenda for tonight, we'll talk a little bit about the midterm budget review and where it fits into the budget planning cycle. Budget, as you know, isn't a once in time event. It's a continuum of events that happen. Then we'll review the general fund, both revenues and expenditures, talk about financial strategies, and conclude with adopting a midyear budget, or recommending that you approve a midyear budget resolution. As you know, the city goes through a quite extensive cycle of financial planning. We start with preparing a two-year budget. We started preparing a two-year budget in 2010, right about this time last year. As we went through towards going up to June 30th, eventually we recommended and city council adopted a fiscal year 11 budget. And then about a month ago, we decided presented the annual financial report. The annual financial report is for fiscal year 10. So what that does is help us calibrate the actuals that we were basing our forward estimates on. Now we go into the midterm budget review for the current budget year, and then we'll use that information from that to help prepare the next budget for fiscal year 12, which we'll recommend for adoption between now and June 30th. after june thirtieth there's a financial report for june for the february eleven so again we're looking backwards and looking forwards throughout this budget cycle as we come back through the midterm budget review a year from now which will go into the next two-year cycle as the city council knows we prepare two-year budgets the planning for those two-year budgets are done with quite a comprehensive set of inputs. We do community monitoring through all the various committees that the City Council has. We monitor the economics of the community. We have our annual financial reports and of course the City Council is involved in many, many reviews. The Finance Committee reviews the monthly financial statements as well as the quarterly statements. And of course, management is looking at it on a day-to-day basis. We not only look backwards on a day to day basis, we try to look as aggressively forward as we can The City Council adopts a priority calendar every year. Those priority calendar items have impact on the budget and impact on our budget planning. And the priority calendar is a typical output of our strategic planning that we do every year. In March you are scheduling a strategic planning meeting that will provide significant input into preparation of the fiscal year 12 budget. We ask our city council and finance committee to do budget policy reviews and of course we have these mid-year reviews. And all this comes into a cycle of financial planning. so that the management and the city council and the community is aware and participatory in our process. And so this is kind of a dynamic process that goes back and forth. The summary of where we're at today in looking at our midyear budget review is our budget, our adopted budget represented these green bars for revenues. This is what we're amended is we're going to have some reduction in revenues that we had originally anticipated. but we don't have any increases or reductions in expenditures. So initially we thought we would end the fiscal year with a surplus of about $94,000. and instead we're going to have a surplus, we anticipate a surplus of about $36,000. And that is consistent with the love. The general fund balance projections that we've experienced through our financial planning have been able to go from negative unreserved fund balances to very positive unreserved fund balances. our total fund balance going to almost $9 million. And that does not include reserves that you have in the disaster assistance plans, as well as other internal service funds that you have of another $5 million. So in summary, the fiscal year 11 budget is on track. But looking specifically at some of the line items within the general fund, We first looked at we're experiencing a decline in property taxes that we had originally anticipated. So property taxes, the secured property taxes, come from several sources. First, you get your secured property tax roll. This is the property tax that you get all the residents and get on their tax bill every year. And the current secured levy is $5,149,000. Last year, it was $5,261,000. So some of the reasons for the decline is we had some foreclosures and we had some downward evaluations resulting from appeals. An example of a foreclosure was the Casa Madrona Hotel which sold for significantly less than what it was valued at after it was seized by the FDIC. There was another factor that played into it for the first time ever, Proposition 13, which normally has an inflation factor to property taxes limited to the lesser 2% or inflation. And it has been 2% for the past five years. experienced for the first time a negative decline of less than 1%, but still a factor that went into decreasing our total tax levy. Finally, the third component is the county charges us fees or costs to collect the property taxes. And those costs went up 3.2% from the previous years. And so the secured levy, from all sources. Last year we collected 5,150,000 and this year we will collect 5,035,000. That's a known number. And the reason it's a known number is because San Marin Marin County is on what's called the teeter plan. The county collects 100% of all the property taxes and gives each city 100% of the taxes. But if there's any delinquents, if there's penalty or interest, then the county keeps that. And the teeter plan thereby ensures all local governments get 100% of their levy. The second component of secured property taxes is what's called the ERAF, the Educational Revenue Augmentation Fund. Back in 1999, the state diverted a bunch of money from cities and diverted it to schools And at the end of the year, they calculate what's called the excess educational revenue augmentation fund monies. And we have traditionally gotten about $650,000. Last year, we got $717,000. but this year we're only going to get 655,000. So those two numbers together added up in this decrease here of $177,000 from what we budgeted in property taxes. Other property taxes look like they're going to come in ongoing. We're continually monitoring our sales tax. We budgeted $1.5 million in sales tax. And I just met with our sales tax consultant last week, and we all confirmed that the most pessimistic view of what we would collect for Sausalito this year would be $1.5 million. So we're staying with our We all confirmed that the most pessimistic view of what we would collect for Sausalito this year would be $1.5 million. So we're staying with our pessimistic view. Transite occupancy taxes picked up significantly from last year, partly because of the management of Casa Madrona transferring from the FDIC, who just dropped room rates to get occupancy to a more aggressive management. And also due to the increased occupancy coming from tourism. Franchise fees and business license, they're pretty stable from year to year. We're going to see some increase in our miscellaneous revenues. |
| 00:42:04.50 | Charlie Francis | Oh, SMEMPs is a big component. And so last year, we collected 112,000 Let's see. maps SMEFs orders are $25,000 more than what we budgeted, and it was $40,000 more than the prior year receipts. So we budgeted conservatively on SMEFs, and they came in a little bit higher. Our revenues from our antenna rentals, which is an outgrowth of the, looking at all the ways that we can maximize the use of city property that the city council directed through its OMID committee, will be $10,000 more than budget. And other miscellaneous revenues will come in about $28,500. Now planning and building revenues are decreased somewhat. Planning revenues are, building revenues are higher, but planning applications are lower than what we had originally budgeted and So we're anticipating a $44,000 decrease there. And so in order to make up for all these details, we're recommending that we transfer in $100,000 more than what we originally budgeted from the parking fund. The parking fund is experiencing increased revenues from the new parking meters that we installed in the parking lots, as well as we have decreased expenditures due to the increased efficiencies of running the parking lots from the parking meters. So in total, a decline in revenues of $57,500. And our expenditures pretty much on budget in all the departments. In the building department, we had some Vina del Mar and the Marinship inventory. were unbudgeted items that we went ahead but they were on the priority calendar. So those items we're asking for a supplemental appropriation for. Our property liability insurance came in less than we had budgeted as well as we had budgeted for a labor negotiator and we didn't have a labor negotiator this year or next year so we decreased the appropriation for that. Fire is a little, we're asking for a $13,000 appropriation. There's three things going on in the fire department. First is their overtime is coming in, about $80,000 more than we had budgeted. We had budgeted $300,000 for overtime. The overtime is primarily due to four people being off on workers' compensation. As you know, we have minimum manning requirements, and when someone's off on workers' compensation, that position has to be covered. But on the other hand, we finally entered into an agreement with the Golden Gate Park District and we'll be recognizing $87,000 in revenue retroactive from October of last year through June 30th. So that kind of offsets the overtime increase. And then we also have another $20,000 being requested for the uh, for the public outreach component of the fire consolidation. So the professional services budget would go up. So all three of those together, and that could be $13,000 And last, our transfers out, we budgeted every year $10,000 to be transferred out from the general fund to the sewer fund for the sewer lifeline rebate program. Last year, we only had $1,000 worth of applicants, but we have eligible in the community $10,000 worth of people. So in this year, we've also experiencing only about the same, about another $1,000 in applicants. And so we'll be transferring back to the general fund from the sewer fund those general fund monies that went over there. |
| 00:45:53.80 | Charlie Francis | Different ways of looking at our revenues. We have 65% of our revenues come from taxes, and those are primarily due from property tax, sales tax, and TOT. This is part of why City of Sausalito has been able to weather the recession as well as better than other cities is because these revenues are more inelastic than cities that relied on auto smalls. And so where we have a smaller percentage of our budget that's elastic. And then we have revenues that come in for different fees and programs and then of course our transfers in primarily from our parking fund support the rest of the budget. Then another way of looking at our expenditures is that We have 65% of our revenues from taxes, and 54% is for public safety. Another 5% for the library, which generally doesn't have a lot of fees coming in, and administration and finance and technology. So these are kind of, services that are supported by taxes, where these services are supported many times by fees and other kinds of charges. So when you compare the two, you can kind of see how our taxes come in and how the taxes are being spent. And then just a final way of looking at our revenues 70. 7% is our direct costs, direct services being provided to our citizens and our indirect costs of administration, information technology, city attorney, transfers out for workers' comp, vehicle replacement fund, and liability insurance, as well as the internal parts of public works, taking care of our cars, taking care of our buildings is inward focused. So we have 23% indirect costs. That's supported through the budget. |
| 00:47:53.54 | Mike Kelly | Would you go back to that slide where you showed the police and fire? Yes. We've got 15 fire employees. Is that right? And we have 22 police employees, is that right? That's correct. Okay. So that's why that slice is larger. Right. |
| 00:48:04.66 | Linda Pfeifer | Fifteen. Okay. Thank you. |
| 00:48:10.41 | Charlie Francis | Right. Thank you. |
| 00:48:15.34 | Charlie Francis | So what we'd like to do now is just briefly go through each department and talk about some of the highlights. Because the budget is not just about how much money we spent, but what did we do for our citizens with that money. services, administration and finance. Had substantial updates with the document management system. The legal analysis of the codification is under review. We've had quite a number of public meetings and ordinances and resolutions. All city clerk functions that are day-to-day as well as these projects that they've been working on. We also interact a lot with through our human resources department with our workers comp and we just got a letter of recognition from our Bay City's joint powers insurance recognizing the work of Susie Nichols our HR technician as well as others in the department saying that they're recognizing that we are doing a good job with them. We've updated our Springbrook version 7 with a minimum amount of impact to other city departments. We have an electric gas and utility audit that kind of concluded that We don't have any extra money that we left on the table. But most of these would as a result of having the solar and the lead uh, projects that we've had in the past. We've produced our financial report. We've reconciled our HR records with insurance vendors, which is a big outstanding project when I first came on board. We had a major recruitment, including a recruitment for a police chief, which we're happy that she'll be starting next week. and continual employee issues that we've mediated, ameliorated and had just a minimum of of disruption in our workforce. So I think the administration of finance has done Just a super job in maintaining services. Those are the inward services. Look. And then our IT department, another inward service, deployed a telephone system across all four sites. You know, that sounds... Okay, VOIP, all four sides. You had to coordinate with the public safety team. You had to upgrade the wiring at City Hall. You had to upgrade the wiring at the corporation yard, configure new networks and fiber circuits. I mean, The sub-bullet points under each one of these is substantial as we move to really improve our IT department. Just moving the police and fire computers into the new buildings was quite a task. And, of course, now we have our webcasting system. That was no easy thing either, installing the camera and negotiating the contracts, getting the additional wiring, putting in all the software. So good job, Brett. And you can see, and you have copies there in front of you of the PowerPoint presentation of the other accomplishments. The highlights in the planning and building department, public workshops were held. A public workshop was held for the housing element. 13 HEC meetings were conducted and a status report provided to the city council Under the VA medical research at the former machine shop, the historical evaluation report and an outreach program to federal officials was initiated. Plaza Vena Del Mar historic evaluation report was prepared by a consultant, and that final report's due in late March. There was a marine ship land use inventory, historic building. You can see on all of these economic development study, how to start a business for sure, and the update of the fire code. |
| 00:51:14.23 | Nancy Osborne | Thank you. |
| 00:51:14.34 | David Hoffman | Okay, medicine. |
| 00:51:40.37 | Charlie Francis | All substantial amount of projects coming from the 614,000 from the planning department and the 408,000 from the building department. What a police department we have. I'm sure everyone here would agree. They're proactive and they're always out there doing new things. And besides the patrol services that they do all the time, They moved into the new public safety building. Quite a task. The logistics and planning that went behind that were unbelievable. Um, They played a key role in the implementation of our new APARC parking equipment. We have an OTS, bicycle and pedestrian safety grant, and we got our first reimbursement from it today. uh, They added Nixle to their complemented community outreach tools. I don't know what a Nixle is, but I'm sure the chief will explain it if you have a question about it. Our VIPs are assisting with staffing. We've upgraded safety and patrol rifles. Hope they never have to use them. The patrol program is 167 hours. That's pretty good and helps to address some of the issues that Mr. Robertson brought up and of course we had our very successful disaster management training and a disaster exercise. It was a real disaster exercise that And, uh, uh, kind of looked at what would we do if there was a terrorist attack here. And everyone responded very well to that exercise. It was a great exercise. Fire department, new public safety facility, new Golden Gate contract, got a temporary fire marshal, reassigned some positions, adopted the fire code, completed the strategic plan for the fire district, placed a ladder truck in service, purchased a CERT response team, So... We're getting some. Just Sunday I was driving through the community, and you kind of look at that building, a comment from, Uh, the person I was with in the car You know. Look at that nice building. I said, that building almost burned down. In fact, that building was contained to the building of origin. It could have easily spread down the block. of that building right there B Street, I think it is. Pine Street. So it was a great job by the fire department containing a fire to the room of origin. They do great work |
| 00:54:00.11 | Charlie Francis | Let's just quickly go through. We've got public works, engineering and maintenance. You can see all the construction that's going out there. Completion of the public safety facility, Johnson Street, 2010 street improvements. Completion of parking equipment. Completion of The sewer rehabilitation project, the design and permitting, just go on and on. We have a very extensive capital improvement project program that's in place and getting ready to move forward. A lot of things happening in our town. |
| 00:54:34.95 | Charlie Francis | Updated registration software in our Parks and Recreation Department, registration websites, some presentation of Sausalito and its community magazine, planning commission work, safety ADA work, 20 special events with the following highlights. So, you know, they're out there. They're doing a lot of activities. And for the amount of money that we allocate, we're getting a tremendous amount of service. And of course our library space needs. The friends agreed to contribute $16,000 and the book circulation increased by 25% and program attendance has doubled since the children's librarian was hired in May 2010. So, um, Overall, these are the highlights of the department and the department heads are here to answer any questions that you might have about their departments. Before we... To ask those questions though, I just want to go into a summary of our financial strategies You received your comprehensive annual financial report last month. And we said that the near-term financing is in good condition. We can pay our bills. Our ability to pay our bills improved. But our ability to continue to improve our financial condition in the next decade will be a challenge. And I demonstrated part of that challenge today as our revenues didn't come in as, at least they don't appear to be coming in as we projected. So, We did another SWAN analysis. Strength, weakness, opportunities, threats. Our reserves are healthy. You saw that in the first slide and another slide here. And we've got fiscal planning going on, but our revenues are static. They're going to remain static as we go in the future. And the threat that we're facing is the CalPERS pension increases. and so we have some opportunities opportunities pay off the side funds with the opportunities with the fire consolidation they just want to Briefly review those. Our revenues as we project them are going flat. We're still projecting that the two-year budget will be able to remain intact and we'll be able to provide the same level of services through 2012. as the expenditures are increasing. And that we'll do that by reducing the amount of reserves that we've built up but still have enough reserves to be able to feel safe in those reserves as we go off into the critical years which are the years past 2012. And the reason I say they're critical is because of this Purse threat. A couple of meetings ago when you had Bartell here talking about the projections of the future, well, I did some of my own projections. I then met with some members of the community and I sent these numbers off to Bartell who hasn't responded to me, left to validate them. But I traced all these numbers back to his reports. If we look at these percentages, they go to the CalPERS Actuary Report and these numbers go to the Bartell 7.5% discount rate which he thinks might be likely at the end of March. And this was the not the pessimistic scenario, it wasn't the optimistic scenario, it was the most likely scenario. And as we multiply these percentages times our salaries, we can see that our current contributions of $1.5 million, by the year 2016-17 will become |
| 00:58:03.69 | Charlie Francis | up here a little over $2 million. So they'll increase... Can you read that? Yeah, $2,256,000. So they'll increase about $756,000. Now these weren't unanticipated. The city council will recall that on June in 2009, I sent a memo to the city council Dad. |
| 00:58:26.18 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:58:27.62 | Charlie Francis | prepared a chart that said that here's where the PERS could go if PERS didn't implement their PERS scenarios and here's where they're likely to go. So what we didn't anticipate were two things. One was that they changed the actuarial assumptions for years 2011 and 12 and they didn't anticipate that they would lower the discount rate which the board still might do next month. And you know, most of the increases were anticipated. Not all of them were. And as Mr. Bartell pointed out in the last meeting, the most significant opportunity that we have is to pay off our side funds. And it's kind of interesting to look at these two graphs. You can see that if we paid off our side funds, our... Pension obligation out here in the year 2016-17 goes from over $2 million and comes down to just about be less than what we'd be paying in years 2011 and 2012. Of course there's a cost of money that accompanies that paying off the side funds, but that's how significant The opportunity is, and the best pension reform that the city has available to it is to look for ways to pay off its side fund. And we're continually analyzing that. The interest rate market is still at 6.5%. Our discount rate is at 7.75% at the present time. So we're not getting enough present value savings to discount it by borrowing the money. We may find ways of doing it by using internal funds and we'll be exploring that as we go through the budget process too. And of course the second opportunity facing the city is the possible consolidation of our fire district. And everyone has seen this chart that came from the original phase one report, where if we were to successfully merge with the district, it would create a general fund surplus of 458,000, which would enable us to meet some of these challenges of the PERS as we go off into the future. Attached to your resolution tonight are three exhibits. The resolution refers to each one of these exhibits and then specify that these would be the supplemental appropriations that you would be making. in the resolution and then we also have some other funds that would have to do the tidalands fund you know we finally adopted the budget the capital improvement budget you've awarded the contract and we're ready to uh... uh... open up the escrow account and we need to adjust the budget that was adopted in two thousand nine and ten to uh... show that the revenues are coming from the lease and that we're transferring out to the capital improvement projects $5,100,000. Capital Improvement Fund is the corresponding. We've already budgeted $4.2 million. Now we need to bring it up to the actual cost of $5.1 million. This increased transfers to the general fund goes back to the revenue offset I showed you in your first slides. And same with the sewer fund that's coming down here. So staff is recommending that you would pass the resolution that provides for these supplemental appropriations. there would be no general fund supplemental appropriation except for moving money between departments but not increasing the general fund overall. So with that, that concludes the presentation part of the report. And we have the department heads and... and are ready to answer any financial questions that you have. |
| 01:02:23.19 | Alexander Woie | you have to come up. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Francis, would you mind? My name is Alex, A-L-I-X. SPVAC, SPI. V-A-C-K. I wanted to ask a clarifying question. |
| 01:02:40.03 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:02:41.62 | Alexander Woie | on the departmental highlight, I believe it was for police. You made reference to a terrorist training. |
| 01:02:50.07 | Charlie Francis | Oh, yes. |
| 01:02:50.73 | Alexander Woie | activity of some sort? I don't see it noted on the handout. Would you mind pointing to |
| 01:02:55.83 | Charlie Francis | The last bullet points is provide disaster management training to the management team, conducted a disaster exercise in the new EOC. And EOC stands for? |
| 01:02:56.28 | Alexander Woie | Thank you. |
| 01:03:02.88 | Alexander Woie | And EOC stands for? |
| 01:03:04.60 | Charlie Francis | Emergency Operations Center. |
| 01:03:04.64 | Alexander Woie | Thank you. and I heard a reference to a terrace simulation at the support center. |
| 01:03:10.81 | Charlie Francis | That was the simulation of the exercise. Sometimes in the past we've done earthquakes or we've done storms. This year it was a terrorist, a potential terrorist effect. |
| 01:03:20.48 | Alexander Woie | Was there a timeline associated with when that was conducted? |
| 01:03:25.43 | Charlie Francis | I'm not sure I understand. |
| 01:03:26.34 | Alexander Woie | When was it conducted? Or is that a question better directed to the police department? |
| 01:03:30.30 | Unknown | Oh, do you remember when that was? It was November turn. |
| 01:03:34.24 | Alexander Woie | November of 2010. |
| 01:03:36.09 | Unknown | Thank you. Yes. |
| 01:03:36.68 | Alexander Woie | Thank you. Was it a day event or a longer time event? |
| 01:03:38.84 | Charlie Francis | It was a day event. |
| 01:03:39.08 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:03:39.10 | Alexander Woie | Yeah. Do we have the specific date? |
| 01:03:43.32 | Charlie Francis | not with us now, but we can provide that to you if you come in the office tomorrow. |
| 01:03:45.43 | Alexander Woie | Thank you. It's an extensive presentation. |
| 01:04:03.09 | Herb Weiner | move to the resolution of mid-year term 2010-11 budget modifications. |
| 01:04:10.64 | Carolyn Ford | Yes, I move that we approve the resolution adopting midyear 2010-11 budget modifications. |
| 01:04:17.86 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Second. Thank you. |
| 01:04:20.74 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 01:04:20.95 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:04:20.96 | Mike Kelly | No. I'll take it. |
| 01:04:23.66 | Herb Weiner | Yeah. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Okay. We have a motion to be held by Council Member Ford, seconded by Vice Mayor Kelly. |
| 01:04:24.74 | Mike Kelly | Bye. |
| 01:04:34.24 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, Charlie. Good job, as usual. Now we're going to bring, I guess we're going to now bring that back up on item 6B and that's the resolution establishing the rules and responsibilities of the housing element committee. |
| 01:04:53.58 | Linda Pfeifer | Yes, thank you, Mayor Weiner. So I guess when we talked about this |
| 01:04:54.28 | Herb Weiner | Yes. |
| 01:05:02.44 | Linda Pfeifer | with Councilmember Kelley's recommendation to change the housing element from an ad hoc to a task force, you know, at the time it seemed like the only, I guess the full weight of what that meant was not clear with respect to Municipal Code Chapter 2.58, and I had some questions about that. First of all, I think that one of the strengths of our current, this current structure of the housing element committee is that it is a resident, the residents have a very strategic role in the housing element committee, and I think that that's very important for the nature of this topic. And I think that empowering the committee to select their own chair and vice chair is part of that process. So that is one area where I would disagree with this resolution. The other question I had concerned the reference to the Municipal Code 2.58.030, and it said that that would not apply, and I noticed that one of the references in that code was a residency, and I just wanted to confirm. I know that the resolution we're looking at says five citizens appointed. |
| 01:06:04.88 | Nancy Osborne | Thank you. |
| 01:06:04.90 | Linda Pfeifer | Yeah. |
| 01:06:04.91 | Nancy Osborne | Yeah. |
| 01:06:38.31 | Linda Pfeifer | And I just wanted to clarify the term, you know, between citizen versus residence that we are talking about. |
| 01:06:44.05 | Nancy Osborne | I mean, it's... |
| 01:06:45.38 | Linda Pfeifer | Members of the Housing Element Committee being residents of Sausalito. |
| 01:06:52.82 | Mary Wagner | Mary. Thank you. |
| 01:06:55.69 | Mary Wagner | Yeah, resident versus business owner, I would assume is the distinction, or resident versus somebody who doesn't live in Sausalito. That's up to the council's discretion. If you want to make that change, we can make that change. |
| 01:07:08.92 | Linda Pfeifer | So I just think it's one of the strengths of this is that the residents have a voice in this and that Anyone we appoint in the future would be a resident. I'm okay. |
| 01:07:24.04 | Linda Pfeifer | I'm okay. |
| 01:07:24.55 | Mike Kelly | that up. I think we have a fundamental disagreement about the structure of the committee. So I propose that we table this until we have a full council to respond to. |
| 01:07:37.32 | Carolyn Ford | That's fine with me. I would just say that I have the, that I definitely think that we need to make sure this does residents. And the second thing is that I do think that we need to keep this committee a committee. It's always been a committee. And all of our committees that we set up are committees, and they're governed by our ordinance. And I have to say that when at our last meeting it was moved that we changed the committee to a task force, I asked and was told that the only difference was that a task force was a temporary committee but now I see by this resolution that a task force allows a mayor to legally appoint a chair and vice chair for the HEC committee and I oppose this as I think it politicizes the committee and restricts its independence when the mayor directly appoints. I believe that we need |
| 01:07:48.43 | Nancy Osborne | That's right. |
| 01:08:51.91 | Carolyn Ford | to adhere to our tradition that Committee members elect their leaders. Now, I have no issue, none, with the idea that neither, that city council members are not to be appointed as chair or vice chair. But I do have an issue with this first part because I think it politicizes it, it sets a bad precedent, and it, It restricts the independence of the committee. |
| 01:09:22.64 | Mike Kelly | Okay. |
| 01:09:24.31 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Thank you. Yeah, well noted. We'll change that to resident, and let's take that up at March 8th meeting. Why don't we do that? We're the full council. Okay. Okay. Thank you. |
| 01:09:36.05 | Linda Pfeifer | Oh, ready? Okay. |
| 01:09:40.44 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Now we're going to move to the next item which is |
| 01:09:46.19 | Carolyn Ford | Oh, dear. |
| 01:09:46.38 | Herb Weiner | Yeah. That's OK. And that would be on the use of grant funding for the projects at various parks and recreational facilities. |
| 01:09:56.54 | Carolyn Ford | Yes, Mr. Mayor, I brought that up. And the one thing that I would like to add to this and find a place to squeeze it in, our attachment A on page four, on page five, indicates that we will spend 3,000 on our large willow trees at Dunphy. I assume that's to restore them and enhance them and not remove them. |
| 01:09:58.61 | Herb Weiner | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:10:14.27 | Nancy Osborne | Thank you. |
| 01:10:27.71 | Carolyn Ford | a and b i would like to add that we look at our palm trees in viña del mar those have not been looked at in some years and I was told by an arborist that they need to be evaluated, that to make sure they're healthy. I would hate to lose those palms. So if we could find a way to squeeze that into the budget and the proposed projects, I would greatly appreciate it. |
| 01:10:59.62 | Jonathon Goldman | City of New Council, I would like to address those two issues. The large willow trees in Dunphy that would be planting of new willow trees in Dunphy to take the place of the ones that have fallen over. As you see, we planted some very small willow trees but they just don't have the same effect out there so we want to go out and get some nice big healthy trees and have them professionally planted. So, no tree, not removing anything. |
| 01:11:16.65 | Jerry Robinson | Thank you. |
| 01:11:16.66 | Carolyn Ford | I agree. Right. That's true. |
| 01:11:21.03 | Jonathon Goldman | As far as the palm trees, I do not believe that we'd be able to use these grant funds for that because these are for specific projects, not for maintenance issues. So we can't use them for consulting or regular what would be considered maintenance such as tree trimming. I know that in the past we looked at using this for tree trimming and we were not able to do that. Tree removal as a maintenance or tree replacement, yes, but not standard. maintenance or having them assessed by an arborist. |
| 01:11:50.46 | Carolyn Ford | Okay, then could we make sure that we get the maintenance of these palm trees on some agenda and move it to the top so that we don't run the risk of losing them. |
| 01:12:07.54 | Jonathon Goldman | Yes, I'll work with our Public Works Department on that. |
| 01:12:09.73 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you very much. |
| 01:12:11.05 | Jonathon Goldman | Okay. |
| 01:12:13.97 | Herb Weiner | Any other? |
| 01:12:15.07 | Mike Kelly | Otherwise we can approve. |
| 01:12:17.01 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:12:17.04 | Mike Kelly | Okay. |
| 01:12:17.06 | Mary Wagner | Yes. |
| 01:12:17.16 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:12:17.19 | Herb Weiner | Certainly. |
| 01:12:17.28 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:12:17.35 | Mary Wagner | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:12:17.55 | Mike Kelly | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:12:17.82 | Mary Wagner | We need to take public comment. Yes. |
| 01:12:17.85 | Mike Kelly | You do. |
| 01:12:18.48 | Herb Weiner | Public comment? Yes. I'm getting there. OK. |
| 01:12:22.61 | Mary Wagner | Okay. |
| 01:12:23.20 | Mike Kelly | and he is. you I watch one. Thank you. |
| 01:12:25.77 | Herb Weiner | Yeah, let's open that up. Is there any comments from the public on this item, please? |
| 01:12:25.78 | Mike Kelly | Yeah, let's open that up. |
| 01:12:31.79 | Herb Weiner | Okay, with that we'll bring it back up. |
| 01:12:34.56 | Carolyn Ford | So I recommend that we approve the use of grant funding. Grant funding, use the use of per capita and block grant funds for the various parks and recreation improvements facilities is noted in attachment A, and holding the funds previously allocated to parks and facility improvements for future parks and facility improvements. |
| 01:12:42.84 | Nancy Osborne | Thank you. |
| 01:13:01.19 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:13:01.30 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:13:01.32 | Jonathon Goldman | Okay. |
| 01:13:01.51 | Carolyn Ford | you |
| 01:13:02.30 | Herb Weiner | Okay, all in favor? Aye. Aye, opposed? Okay, so that was moved by Council Member Ford, seconded by Vice Mayor Kelly. And we're having a water seat here. Okay. |
| 01:13:03.95 | Carolyn Ford | Bye. Thank you. |
| 01:13:05.99 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:13:20.96 | Herb Weiner | I'll use fly and over scope milk. Okay moving on to the next item on our agenda which will be non-motorized transportation pilot program path plan ferry landing to Gate 6 Road, status update and public workshop to our teach out. |
| 01:13:52.23 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 01:13:53.01 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:14:21.14 | Mike Kelly | So visual is for some focus areas. |
| 01:14:27.38 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:14:27.97 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 01:14:28.02 | Herb Weiner | it does that. |
| 01:14:47.82 | Todd Teachout | Uh, I'm your city engineer, Todd Teachout. I'm here to present. I'm basically here to frame the discussion and to introduce Ian Moore of Alta Planning, who will walk you through the feasibility study. We're at the near the end of what's been close to a two-year process when the committee or the council awarded a consulting contract for this planning effort to Alta Planning back in March of 2009 and then subsequently configured and partially staffed a technical advisory committee in September of 2009. The consultant and the Technical Advisory Committee met approximately five times between September and roughly July of last year to walk through some of the challenges of coming up with a route and scoping that this study is intended to do. And then from that point, a report was drafted, and then we went through a – we attempted to present to the findings pre-report, and then the council directed that we have an independent public workshop, which occurred in November of last year. At the conclusion of that individual meeting, we had a public comment period on the study, which was open from November 16th to December 17th. We received a few comments. And the report within your packet has the comments and then responses to the comments. In a few cases, the comments prompted some revisions to the report of what I believe is a minor nature. I wanted to go over what the intent of this report is. It was conceived to be something called the Project Study Report-like document. And that is a tool that the federal funding sources like to see. It allows the community to demonstrate that a scoping and a public process has been developed for |
| 01:17:10.70 | Mary Wagner | Right. |
| 01:17:10.97 | Nancy Osborne | it |
| 01:17:20.93 | Todd Teachout | the various projects within this report. And ideally, you know, after taking public comments and if you're satisfied with the content of the report, we're asking that you adopt it so that we can use it as a tool to seek at your will additional grant funds to take care of some of the deficiencies within the street network. So with that, I wanted to introduce Ian Moore of Alta and he'll walk you through. Yeah. |
| 01:18:06.45 | Ian Moore | Thank you Todd. Mayor, council members, I think my purpose here this evening is to walk you through as this cover or title slide here indicates, the same information that we presented at our public workshop back in November with the modifications in response to comment. And really, what we did at that meeting is to walk through entirety of the project site by segment and talk about the constituent projects that we identified through this study. As I think we're all aware, the overall project study core doorways from Ferry Landing to Gate 6 Road. conditions vary considerably along the corridor as we'll get into. The first thing I want to allude to, which Todd started to get into, is project origination. Where did this idea come from and how did our specific scope come to be? So as the slide indicates, there are a number of previous planning investigations. Sausalito Bridgeway Path concept came about in the 70s and 80s. The Marin County North-South Bikeway for the entirety of the county was first drafted out in a planning document form in 1994. This particular study that we're just wrapping up now is identified as a non-molarized transportation pilot project priority for study back in 2007. And some of the ideas that we've detailed out were also supported by the WAM and the track efforts from 2008 to 2010. And overall, this rough corridor has been pursued and investigated since the 70s. Now, when we started, the county direction through the non-motorized transportation pilot project was largely to investigate the southernmost segment of the north-south greenway, north-south bikeway as it's sometimes referred to. |
| 01:20:00.83 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 01:20:05.88 | Ian Moore | should be a pathway project separate from the roadway. And it should serve pedestrians and bicyclists. Now, as we got under contract here with the City of Sausalito, with the use of the federal funds, we received further specific direction to respond to downtown and marine ship interests, to design both a local serving and a region serving pathway to serve pedestrians and bicyclists and to focus on the bridgeway corridor as opposed to the shoreline. Um, These next two slides I want to cover pretty quickly. Overall, we have significant pedestrian and bicycle demand along the corridor. It varies depending on where specifically we're talking about. Pedestrian demand is the highest in the downtown area. North of Napa Street, it's considerably less. And again, we're talking about really the Bridgeway corridor. Bicyclists demand is quite varied. Local utilitarian trips, local recreational trips, significant bicycle rental and tourist trips, regional commute trips and a lot of local and regional recreational trips. So quite a variety of bicycle traffic. One of the things we did relatively early in the study is try to estimate what is the potential use of this corridor, what's current use and what is potential future use. And based on the counts that are ongoing through the non-motorized transportation pilot project, and to give you reference, the peak period, peak hour count for bicyclists are on 240. That's a weekend morning. And extrapolated out, there are as many as 2,400 bicycle trips a day through the corridor and 465 pedestrian trips. I think it was a midpoint or northern, not accounting for all the pedestrian activity in the core of downtown. Those trips are what I'll call corridor level, distributed among the sidewalk, the existing bike lanes, and parallel routes. Um, so The next major step we took, and this is largely through the technical advisory committee, is to talk about what is an appropriate design approach for this corridor to accommodate all this varied bicycle traffic and local and primarily local pedestrian trips. So this engendered a lot of debate, a lot of discussion, input from all parties involved. Ultimately, we came to a relatively consensus-based conclusion that We do indeed want to provide separated bike and ped facilities from the road. We want bicyclists to be adjacent or closest to the roadway. We want pedestrians to be further away to the outside of the roadway. And generally speaking, we have somewhere between 15 and 20 feet of right-of-way available where there is existing pathway, existing sidewalk, some what I'll call undeveloped or landscape setback. There are a variety of configurations, obviously, throughout the entire corridor, but 15 to 20 feet, and this is roughly how we apportioned it as a design guideline for the overall corridor. A landscape buffer where we could provide it to separate from either existing bike lane on street, that's sort of the red zone there in those cross sections. or travel lane or parking, depending on where we are. Then minimum of eight-foot bikeway and a minimum of a four-foot pedestrian sidewalk or walkway. Now, ideally, we want more width than that, and fortunately in many segments it's available. So we would have a wider planter strip or buffer, again, a minimum eight-foot bikeway, and then probably a wider walkway of minimum six feet. And these sections vary throughout, but these are the basic parameters that we set. So to get into the beginnings of a cost summary, this is a very expensive project, particularly in the context of the budget discussions we were just having here this evening. However, in the context of a broader transportation funding scheme, it costs substantially less than many other larger-scale transportation capital expenditures. So we're talking about, for the preferred alignment, a $10 to $12 million project. That said, this can be substantially broken down into short, mid, and long-term projects. And I'll get into that. And those phases are determined based on some basic feasibility criteria that we set through the process. It's a little hard to read, but here just to give you a sense of how did we look at the segments that we defined and how did we put them or designate them as short, mid, and long term. So availability of right-of-way was key. In order to provide one of those typical quash sections, we looked at is there existing publicly owned right-of-way or is private property required, be it through condition of development or acquisition or a variety of mechanisms. I'll get into those details as I walk through the segments. We looked at community support and we looked at connecting to some existing already improved facility. So overall, short term, we defined several segments as potential short term projects. the northernmost end, couple of segments, Johnson to Litho, Napa to Easterby, and then on to midterm, and I'll walk you through each of these with plan views, which is a high-level summary. Midterm, again, scattered throughout the project site. And long term, emphasize these here, is the city on lots. There's some significant reconfigurations required, which I think will require further a council. long term, emphasize these here, is the city-owned lots. There's some significant reconfigurations required, which I think will require further council discussion and approval, so those are arguably longer term projects. So here's the segments shown on the map. We start in the south. Segment one is the city-owned lot area. Segment two is roughly Johnson to Locust. Segment three, sort of the Litho to Napa area. Four, Napa up to Liberty Shipway. Five, Liberty Ship up to roughly Harbor Drive. And then segment six from Harbor to Gate 6. So to walk through, Segment one. We'll turn right here, for those of you who aren't listening. Segment one, again, this is where we're talking about the need to adjust city-owned lot configurations in order to provide for path width. beginning at the ferry terminal. What we've laid out here is a separated pedestrian pathway and bicycle path to carry around the perimeter of the lots and to carry through other non-motorized transportation pilot project areas where Humboldt is reconfigured. So lot one, as I suggested just a minute ago, that is a long-term project. It requires some adjustment to the circulation lanes, some taking out of a few parking stalls. Lot two is a mid-term project, less adjustment required. And the primary intent here is to provide this direct connection into ferry terminal. |
| 01:28:27.86 | Ian Moore | Continuing on, still in our overall segment one, moving into lot three, which we've identified as a long-term project given the need to incorporate this pathway with a bulkhead expansion here. So this would need to be coupled with a larger capital project. And here, it's assumed that pedestrians continue to use use existing boardwalk here, and this new bicyclist serving pathway would be on the perimeter edge of the existing city lot three. And that's the connection to the segments I discussed previously. |
| 01:29:16.07 | Ian Moore | Moving into lot four, also long-term, is the need for lot reconfiguration to create the area for a pathway. There's existing boardwalk, existing landscape zone, and a new pathway. Talk a little bit more about this lot reconfiguration. Here's our rough calculation here. Converting from City of Sausalito parking stall size of 9 by 19 feet to a Marin County standard stall size of 8'6 by 18 feet. And what's some adjustments to overall orientation? All that reconfiguration that I've just walked through results in a loss of 25 parking stalls. Again, that impact in and of itself I think requires further consideration by council. Again, much of this is for long-term consideration. |
| 01:30:24.62 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:30:26.15 | Ian Moore | So a quick summary of overall opportunities and constraints for segment one. |
| 01:30:34.19 | Ian Moore | The lot modifications and lot resurfacing, ultimately, that project will need to occur, and this proposed pathway could be done in conjunction with that long-term project. The key constraint is the amount of public land area provided in downtown for public parking cannot be increased or decreased by more than 5 percent without voter approval. so That's a significant thing. effort. Again, these are mid and long term projects. Moving into segment two, so where we come out to Bridgeway proper. And let me back up on one second that I did not discuss that I wanted to. connect from this parking lot perimeter pathway out to Bridgeway along Johnson. It's a considerable discussion of this segment, and in the most recent public comment period, we responded to a number of comments that requested that this pathway segment be provided. We had contemplated providing on-street connection there. So this pathway segment also has some direct parking impact at the Yacht Harbor office here, and that's going to require further consideration as well. So moving on to Bridgeway, this is where we have existing sidewalk and pathway. And what's needed here is minor reconfiguration to a cross-section that looks like this. Here again, this is where we are relatively constrained, but we have sufficient width to have a buffer from existing parking from the roadway itself. minimum eight-foot wide bikeway, a one-foot separation or paving demarcation of some kind, and a six-foot pedestrian walkway. And that continues from Johnson through up to Locust. |
| 01:32:49.09 | Ian Moore | Segment two is shorter. The opportunities here are the existing sidewalk and parallel side path are there. That right of way is established. It really is, again, a minor reconfiguration. We're updating to more current standards. |
| 01:33:07.33 | Linda Pfeifer | you |
| 01:33:10.99 | Ian Moore | The constraints are that to widen out to that, cross-section, some adjustments to some of the edge treatments in the existing landscaping are necessary. Again, I think that's a minor constraint. Moving on to segment three, to locust to Napa. |
| 01:33:41.60 | Ian Moore | Again, we have some existing width here to work with. We're looking at roughly the same cross-section I just presented in the previous slide, a buffer, minimum eight-foot bikeway, and a six-foot walkway. And here we've had some significant and detailed discussion as well about the relationship of the pathway to Dunphy Park. We view this cross-section here as a placeholder. I think that when master planning for Dumpy Park is undertaken in greater detail and the most desired location for Dumpy Park auto parking is discussed, this pathway could easily move to |
| 01:34:19.65 | Carolyn Ford | it. Thank you. |
| 01:34:31.43 | Ian Moore | further away from the roadway and parking could be located between the bridgeway and the path. That's discussed in narrative form in the report. |
| 01:34:44.69 | Ian Moore | Similar to segment two, we have the existing widths to work with. I think I'll leave it at that and move on to segment four. Segment four. |
| 01:34:49.12 | Nancy Osborne | Thank you. |
| 01:35:00.20 | Ian Moore | moving north from Napa. one short segment immediately adjacent to the shoreline where we have an unpaved gravel pathway. That's one detail of this segment. We then have existing pathway all the way up to spring, marine ship way. |
| 01:35:31.98 | Ian Moore | This is one of the easiest segments. It's always just a connection to the existing path to make it continuous. And to go back to the plan, this segment includes consideration of this intersection here at Easterby, Bridgeway, Marin Ship. So some thought needs to be given here, and we've laid this out in the study as to how to improve circulation through this intersection for autos, pedestrians, and bicyclists. |
| 01:36:12.75 | Ian Moore | I'm getting into segment five. We get into some more challenging property ownership and civil engineering issues. It's an evening filled with electronic interruptions. What can I say? |
| 01:36:29.52 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:36:31.16 | Herb Weiner | That isn't a built-in timer. You still have a little timer. |
| 01:36:35.04 | Ian Moore | So, I think the important context here is overall marineship-specific plan and the longstanding discussions about the best way to provide auto circulation through the marineship area, and principally the existing documentation of how to provide roadway alignment, basically at the toe slope immediately parallel to bridgeway. Basically what I'll refer to as a reconstruction and realignment of marine shipway. Now I'll going back to that original documentation in the 80s, there is a provision for bicycle and pedestrian accommodations. So we took that as our starting point and What this pathway alignment assumes is that it would best be developed with overall roadway and overall multimodal or auto and bike and ped circulation improvements. It's not a logical standalone project. It should be implemented with, again, overall circulation improvement. That's ultimately what that winds up looking like. These two 14-foot lanes are what proposed in the Marin ship. documentation and this pathway cross-section, this bicycle pathway cross-section would be, again, immediately west of the reconfigured roadway. And we have a couple options for pedestrian circulation. For this southern segment, we have existing pedestrian sidewalk. The pathway is immediately west of the road. It looks like this. As we move north, believe the best way to improve for pedestrian circulation is to improve and provide continuous sidewalks. along Marinship in this existing alignment. And similarly, on this northern segment of Maroon ship. in the area of Watery Street, this path then reconnects up to the Bridgeway grade. |
| 01:39:16.64 | Ian Moore | this segment. has far and away the greatest costs associated with it in the vicinity of $6 million to $7 million. And the reason for that, to go back to this plan view, is that throughout this entire reach, there are significant private property constraints and the need for significant right-of-way acquisition. It's to provide a separate pedestrian bicycle pathway through this partnership area. Again, just briefly summarize, there are significant civil engineering requirements and significant right-of-way acquisition required. The technical advisory committee commented on many occasions, including through the most recent public comment period, that the study ought to include an option or provision to improve the existing moronship alignment. There are property constraints there as well. And overall, I think we all agree that we, meaning staff, consultant team, technical advisory committee, that this segment bears, there is a need for on three alternatives. So opportunities here are existing agreements that I alluded to at the beginning. |
| 01:40:57.04 | Ian Moore | There is overall for the County North-South Greenway and through a lot of our public discussion, a desire for this separated pathway from Midway regardless of the constraints. To get into those constraints, we have significant slope issues, the need to preserve configuration of existing parcels to preserve parking, to preserve building footprints, to construct a pathway and limit private property impacts. It requires retaining walls. It is an expensive segment. Move into segment six, where we are back up at the edge of Birdway or at Birdway elevation on what I'll call the existing sidewalk zone. We're basically going from harbor all the way to gate six. This again is making use of existing sidewalk area, existing setback area, and The configuration generally looks much like previous segments adjacent to bridgeway, minimum 8-foot bikeway, a 5-foot planter strip separation, and a 6-foot walkway. In comparison to segment 5, much easier to implement. |
| 01:42:37.06 | Ian Moore | I'm just going to hit these before I talk about some specific intersections. So this segment, all told, is in the order of 1.2 million. We have, again, the opportunity to take advantage of existing right-of-way. that are important to mention is that in order to reconfigure the existing serpentine pathway and the existing landscape, significant tree removal is required. That can easily be mitigated, however, with tree replanting. And it arguably would result in a long-term more sustainable right-of-way planting. Now, to go back to important intersections. We also had a significant discussion about Gate 5 Road and Bridgeway intersection and Gate 6 Road and Bridgeway intersection. I'll start with gate 6. And I think as everyone is aware, the transition from the existing Mill Valley Sausalito pathway segment. And the on-street bike lanes on Bridgeway and the overall signal operations is a concern for many different constituencies here, be it local residents, local bicyclists, pedestrians, regional bicyclists. I think probably every user group expressed some concern about that intersection. There is an obvious need to improve this intersection for all modes. There is some movement there with collaboration between the City of Sausalito, Marin County, and Caltrans. |
| 01:44:32.74 | Ian Moore | That said, we also had through our technical advisory group some discussion of conceivably making a transition between separated path and on street at Gate 5 Road. The rationale there being that if this were developed as, again, we'll call it current standard separated multi-use path, there was a potential to carry all users, be they slow bicyclists, power speed bicyclists, and pedestrians to gate five where some separation kind of curve where higher speed users would return to on-street bike lanes on Bridgeway. |
| 01:45:17.59 | Nancy Osborne | turn. Thank you. |
| 01:45:20.81 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 01:45:23.13 | Ian Moore | recommended that to the extent feasible that transition be kept here. Again, we had a lot of discussion at the technical advisory group about how to keep slower speed bicyclists and higher speed bicyclists separate. So we want to, as best as possible, provide for that transition here and to keep higher speed through bicyclists on the bridgeway. So with that, |
| 01:45:53.00 | Ian Moore | Um, I've alluded to some of the next steps. All right. Clearly, this is a high-level summary. There are a lot of design details that I've not presented thoroughly. They're available. in the study, the long-term projects and I'll start here, require significant follow-up planning and community outreach. When they are sufficiently advanced, they can move into the same sequence as we believe short-term projects are currently ready to move into. Again, this is feasibility study. We provide conceptual designs and plan view and cross-section with some additional discussion and details in the report. They now need to move into a more detailed design process to work out the specifics. Many segments, specifically Gate 6 and the Marinship area, require additional traffic study in order to detail exactly what types of traffic controls are required and how they will operate. And then in the study, we've laid out what I'll call environmental issues identification. Now, for specific segments to move forward, a more detailed CEQA environmental review identification. Now for specific segments to move forward, a more detailed CEQA environmental review process will be required. |
| 01:47:26.55 | Ian Moore | And I think In conclusion, say that I think the overall process with the technical advisory group brought a lot of valuable questions to the table. Many of them we've been able to respond to effectively, and many of them are, I think, are bigger in nature than this specific study. We'll hear more about them in public comment, and I'm happy to discuss more details. And I think Todd will certainly help me out. So with that, thank you very much. |
| 01:47:57.62 | Herb Weiner | Okay. We have any questions up here? I have one, just one. and that is that when you're at lot four, would it be feasible to You have the you have a walkable pathway still there. How much width? |
| 01:48:22.26 | Nancy Osborne | How much? |
| 01:48:23.88 | Herb Weiner | You know, I don't like the idea of taking out 25 spaces. but if you separate it and have one part of that just for bikes. and let the pedestrian stay on that Wooden. pathway. Maybe you can, instead of eliminating all those spaces, cut it down to where you would have compact parking. in that spot so we wouldn't lose the spots and yet you still could adequately handle a bicycle. my thought, because you already have the walking path there that takes you right out to Johnson Street. Right. |
| 01:48:59.75 | Herb Weiner | I don't know. Do you follow me? |
| 01:49:01.44 | Ian Moore | I believe so. |
| 01:49:03.18 | Herb Weiner | You see how you've eliminated those spaces on the side? |
| 01:49:07.84 | Ian Moore | it |
| 01:49:09.94 | Herb Weiner | I wish I had, yeah. In this area? No, go back to the water, towards the water. No. Now that's a walkable path. |
| 01:49:10.55 | Ian Moore | in this area? No. |
| 01:49:16.69 | Ian Moore | Here, yes. That's right. The brown is the existing board. So I'm saying. |
| 01:49:17.02 | Herb Weiner | Yes, the brown is the existing board. So I'm saying instead of all those spaces that you would you wouldn't use maybe the width of that so greatly. if you just made it for bicycles and not for pedestrians. Let the pedestrian stay on the wooden path. |
| 01:49:30.90 | Ian Moore | let the pedestrians stay on. Right. |
| 01:49:34.75 | Herb Weiner | and possibly maybe there be able to make it that you have compact parking in that spot, and maybe that would fit in. |
| 01:49:43.61 | Ian Moore | Yeah, I think the issue with respect to narrowing this path is that in terms of the generally respected minimum width for a two-way bikeway, eight feet is the bare minimum. |
| 01:49:54.31 | Herb Weiner | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:49:58.54 | Herb Weiner | What is that there? Is that the eight feet? |
| 01:50:00.45 | Ian Moore | That's the eight, that is eight feet? |
| 01:50:01.43 | Herb Weiner | Please. Thank you. |
| 01:50:02.09 | Ian Moore | Thank you. |
| 01:50:02.15 | Herb Weiner | Okay. All right. You answered my question. Okay. Any other questions up here? London. All right, any public comment on this? Okay. Okay. Yeah, we're going to hold you to three minutes on this. Michael, Rex, and what other? John? And who was it? There was someone else? Okay. you |
| 01:50:30.93 | Michael Racks | Hello, I'm Michael Racks, local architect. It's okay. I'd like to speak in favor of the support of this study and effort. you may recall that The Harbor and Downtown Action Committee, the Transportation Action Committee, and the Waterfront Marinship Steering Committee all endorse the concept of a north-south greenway. and The transportation committee on which I serve supports the idea of three pathways that run north and south in town. For the athletes and people who want to whiz through town fast, we have the Bridgeway bike path on the road. For those that want to go slower but still want to commute through town, or within the town. and for children and older people that want to bike, The North-South Greenway provides a level of safety that's outside of the roadway. And that's its benefit. It's meant as a a regional transportation system to encourage people to use bikes, not just for recreation, but also for commuting, for transportation. And then there's a third trail along the shoreline, which would be for those folks that want to meander. and experience the shore's edge. So this is the middle road. And I submitted a letter on December 14th that outlines the concerns that were raised. In the back of the final report, on page 204, they respond to those comments and I'm Alta's comments. Um, On page 192, it needs to be corrected. in terms of their responses, 19 and 20, don't reflect my comments. Comment 19 suggests that I propose that the bike path avoid the SWA property. I actually have said the opposite. I think aligning the bike path at the base of the bluff between Bridgeway and the SWA building is where it belongs. And then on Altus Commons, number 20, talks about Gate 6 Road where It refers to my comment and I'm not talking about Gates Sixth Road, I'm talking about the place between SWA and in Harbor Drive. So I'd like that corrected if it could be. And then last of all, I want to support the next steps and underscore that I think what the town needs is to adopt, once we get through some of the initial studies, this needs to be adopted as public policy. It's one of the problems we have with these reports staying on a shelf because they're not memorialized in our planning documents. And I ask that you go through the hearing process and the environmental analysis to do that. Thanks. Thank you, Michael. |
| 01:53:42.44 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:53:42.48 | Michael Racks | Thank you. |
| 01:53:42.51 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Please state your name. |
| 01:53:44.85 | Jennifer Genari | Hi. I'm Jennifer Genari. I'm a new resident of Sausalito, and I'm one of those casual commuters. I go through that parking lot from the ferry building to my home off of Gate 6 Road. And actually, John here. I just want to commend the council and the planners for coming up with this great idea. I think it's really important. It fosters good relationships between the drivers, the walkers, and the cyclists when everybody knows where they're supposed to be. And so I know from my own experience that when I get off that ferry, it's always like everybody's sort of jockeying for position. And I think creating a bike path is really a great thing to do. I also really want to make a note of the fact that this is our future. We really need these kinds of alternate transportation forms because Losing those 25 parking spaces is not going to be a big deal when a lot of us are just choosing to bike for our health, for our planet. And I really wanted to just say that I think this is really a smart thing for Sausalito to do, and I hope that many people will join us in just biking to our destinations. Thank you. |
| 01:54:54.80 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 01:54:56.08 | John Schlagg | Evening City Council, my name is John Schlagg from Waldo Point Harbor. Thanks very much for bringing this issue up and for giving us a chance to address you tonight. Very glad to see that you've undertaken this study and that it's been done so thoroughly and completely. I also try to get around as much as possible by walking and bicycling, shopping. I commute as many days as possible over the Golden Gate Bridge to the Presidio by bike. What I like about the project in particular, as has been pointed out, the spandex warriors as they're known. and I am sometimes counted among them, will probably be staying on Bridgeway. What this does is this opens it up to the adults, the elderly, and the children of Sausalito, of the local areas. It will get people out onto these paths who are not out there now. doing bicycling advocacy for the people who are already out there on the bicycles is not nearly enough. What we need to do, we need to double, quadruple, quintuple the number of people out there on bicycles. These are the kinds of projects that will do that. Um, and encouraging you to go forward with the specifics and aggressively pursuing the planning I would just point out that among other things I request that you weigh the cost of this project against the cost of doing nothing. Thank you. |
| 01:56:19.92 | Herb Weiner | David, and then I'll take John after that. |
| 01:56:24.74 | David Hoffman | Good evening, I'm David Hoffman, I'm the director of planning with the Marin County Bicycle Coalition. I'm a little raspy. It sounds like I've been smoking most of my life, getting over a cold. I'm here to support moving this project forward for adoption. I have been a member of the Technical Advisory Committee and attended, I believe, almost all of the meetings, study sessions and groups, read the documents, looked at the drawings, considered the options, walked the project with the consultants, rode and biked all of the area on my own. And I think that the study that is being presented is about as good as you're going to get. There are a lot of project constraints to build a world-class pedestrian and bicycle path but there is also a lot of opportunity here to do some short-term easy fixes that will make it better for everybody. On a completely unrelated note, I'm happy to say that I'm back from Valparaiso and Vina sister city for Sausalito, and it is much warmer and drier there. You weren't here. |
| 01:57:28.63 | Herb Weiner | You weren't here last week, were you? |
| 01:57:32.16 | David Hoffman | So I'm here to, again, state my support for moving this project forward. I hope that the council sees fit to adopt this plan. I thank everybody involved for their time and efforts. This was a tremendous effort to get it to this point, and I look forward to working with all of you moving forward. Thank you. |
| 01:57:49.64 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, David. |
| 01:57:51.03 | Mary Wagner | on. |
| 01:57:51.36 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:57:55.47 | Mary Wagner | I'm John Flavin, I'm a resident here at Sausalito. I'm gonna quote Charlie Francis, sooner or later it always comes down to money. And I honestly think at this point we ought to be fiscally responsible. I think Gate 6 Road, the intersection is a problem. There are some other instrumental problems, incremental problems that could be fixed. But let's take this path thing off the break. I know it's going to be funded by the federal government, but at this point in time, states are giving back money for light rails. Everybody else is saying, listen, we can't afford this. It doesn't work. Let's not do it. And I think really this ought to be a decision you all are thinking of at this point. Is this really a good use of our funds or anybody's funds as we look forward? As they say, pedestrians don't go north really at Johnson Street. So how many people are we really aiding by doing this? Maybe two of them are here tonight. But there's a lot of other options to do. I'd also like to know, on this technical advisory committee, who's representing me, the resident, the pedestrian? And I just really can't quite understand that. I understand all of these issues about the bike and separation, but I run on that path north of Mike's Bikes, and there is no separation. And I doubt there will be a separation, no matter how they plan this. So I just don't think this is a good use of funds, whether it be our funds, state funds, federal funds. We don't have what we have are problems on the south end of town. And I know Jonathan Goldman and all, they're all working on a long-term solution for that. But there are ways to fix it. There are. lighted crosswalks that you could put in, like City of Atwater's got 12 of them now. that will help people cross the street and it avoids the accidents. If you go down to Portofino apartments, and look at that intersection at 12th and Main Street. That is just an accident waiting to happen. That's where we should be spending our money, our efforts, our engineering time to fix those problems and not this thing. Thank you. |
| 02:00:14.53 | Herb Weiner | Any other comments from the public? Okay, let's bring it back up here. |
| 02:00:23.21 | Herb Weiner | Um... My only comment, and I hear you, John Flavin, on that, this is also, this is a county-wide project that started up much further north. Their goal is to have this this pathway available so in the future. And I think that's what they're looking at. The use will increase. And if we make it available for them, It could be possibly used much more than it is now. To do nothing, I don't like that approach. if you really think about it, four years ago, Thank you. We were lucky to get in maybe 35,000 bikes in this town. in a matter of three years to four years. Now it's 325,000 bikes coming through Sausalito. So the numbers indicate to me that, and I know a lot of them are Thank you. visitors and tourists, but All of them really don't stop here in Sausalito. They go on to Mill Valley. They go on to Tiburon. Most of the ones that go to Mill Valley, by the way, come back into Sausalito to get the ferry. And, uh, I don't like the idea of doing nothing on this. |
| 02:01:50.48 | Carolyn Ford | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:01:51.90 | Herb Weiner | Councilmember Ford. |
| 02:01:53.40 | Carolyn Ford | Yes, thank you. Okay, I would like to thank the Alta Consulting for the good job that you did with this. And I think that it is a good conceptual model for us to use. I do agree with John Flavin in that I think that we need to be, our main priority is the south end of town. because we have such a dangerous situation there and we are working on it. Public Works has requested money from the county for that. So I think we should pursue both. And I think that to do so, we need to involve our residents. We have had a pedestrian bicycle committee in the past, and we have failed to repopulate that. I think we need to do that right away, and we need to turn over this study to that group and ask them to go through it, to work on the issues, to make recommendations, to pursue grants, and to educate the residents. I believe that this study was done with minimal resident input, and the focus was on the north-south route, which is good. But in terms of the city, we need to get our residents involved. And I believe that if there is money to be had to do this project, I agree with starting with Gate 6 Road, Segment 6, repairing and upgrading what we already have, replacing the trees, making sure that this is well landscaped. That's critical, keeping the green. And I think we definitely need to focus on the crossover intersection at Gate 6 Road. We have the money, as our public works officer has mentioned, $175,000 has been allocated to that. The city should work with Caltrans to make sure that that happens, because that's where everyone feeds in there, not only the bike path from Mill Valley, But the people from the House votes feed in there. The people from the headlines in Marin City feed in there. And it's extremely important in my mind to separate the slow from the fast riders. So I'm happy to see that we've gotten away from that one size fits all and throwing pedestrians, slow bicyclists, and the speedsters on one. Oh dear, on one path, I forgot I was on a big time. |
| 02:05:09.32 | Linda Pfeifer | You get carried away. |
| 02:05:09.91 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah. Yeah. |
| 02:05:10.50 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:05:10.52 | Herb Weiner | Bye. |
| 02:05:10.74 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. I did get carried away so I will just save my the rest of my comments until later |
| 02:05:17.30 | Herb Weiner | All right. Advice Mayor Kelly. Um, |
| 02:05:19.30 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:05:19.85 | Herb Weiner | . |
| 02:05:20.04 | Mike Kelly | I, um... I think that if you look on page 51 of the study, there's a peak hour bicycle and pedestrian count at what they call the study area, which is the Gate 6 road area. And if you extrapolate these numbers, it ends up a yearly count of a million bicycles and pedestrians go through that section. And that's just one end of town. We have the whole city of Suslito. South End has its problems. The North End has its problems. The Center has its problems. Everybody's got problems. And we up here try to figure out how to take the limited amount of money that we have and address the most serious of those problems, but also to spread it equally throughout the city. This has been divided into segments. One of them is extraordinarily expensive. The rest of them are not as expensive. Some of them are within, you know, grants that we get and can routinely get on a regular basis. And I think that we need to pursue those, and I think we need to address this issue. We have grown, the bicycle use here has grown enormously, especially with tourists, and now more so with residents and others. And we are a gateway. People cannot get through Marin County from San Francisco without passing through Sausalito. So we got to be ready for that onslaught, and we got to be ready for that eventuality. So, as the Chinese proverb goes, a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. So we should pick one of these steps and address it and go out and try to get grants for it. And then when we get that one, we'll go get the next one and so on and so on. So that's the year of the rabbit you're talking about. That's the year of the rabbit. We're in the year of the rabbit, right? So I just, I think we, and, you know, I agree that the south end of town, these work. And we're going to address that in a different fashion with a different set of parameters and a different set of hopefully results. But to ignore this and just leave it as it is now in kind of a sad situation and without much facility for either bikes or pedestrians throughout our town is not an answer. |
| 02:07:01.44 | Herb Weiner | to the ear of the rabbit you're talking about. |
| 02:07:34.78 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:07:36.02 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you, Mayor Weiner. So I want to thank everyone who worked on this too. |
| 02:07:36.05 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. So, so. Thank you. |
| 02:07:40.57 | Linda Pfeifer | everyone who worked on this too. |
| 02:07:46.60 | Linda Pfeifer | city staff. And I guess when I, in looking at this, I can say that I support it in concept. I think the one question that comes to my mind is one of priority with respect to transportation. So when we look at transportation and grant writing and staff time, we're also looking at roads repairs, stairs in disrepair, as well as our bikes. lanes and our pedestrian walkways, the sidewalks, ADA, etc. So I guess... that I guess I would like to say that there needs to be a balance in terms of priority with respect to pursuing this concept as well as ensuring that we are pursuing grants for the roads and the stairs and the roads and the roads. you know, the other the other transportation themes that we have or infrastructure needs that we have. But so all in all, I look through this, walk through it with Todd Teachout, I wanna thank the city engineer for that great informative tour, but I support the vision of this and the concept. |
| 02:09:13.10 | Nancy Osborne | you know, |
| 02:09:17.67 | Linda Pfeifer | Mr. Mayor? |
| 02:09:18.97 | Carolyn Ford | comment on |
| 02:09:20.30 | Herb Weiner | Go ahead. You're on TV. |
| 02:09:20.73 | Carolyn Ford | Your comments. I would just like to say that I agree with Councilmember Pfeiffer, and I believe in determining priorities. We need to set the priorities for the community. We already have good facilities in the north end and bicycling facilities in parts of our town and we don't in others. We do have stairs that need repair as well. I see the Pedestrian and Bicycle Committee. being instrumental in keeping our priorities in line. And so we can pursue many things, and the bicycle and pedestrian committee will help us do that. Thank you. |
| 02:10:15.05 | Herb Weiner | Just one comment. We are moving into a different era. And what I mean by that is that things that are on the shelf, will have the opportunity, or taken off the shelf, will have an opportunity to get this grant money. but, the future to get money for studies is really going to diminish. with the budgetary problems that we have in the state. I think that you will see that ability to get grants for studying I don't think we'll be here for at least another few years. So I think we should take advantage of going forward to attempting to use this grant money. Well, we can because we have a problem in this town here, and I mention it, and I'll mention it again. Um. The bikes are going to become greater and greater. in our environment. |
| 02:11:16.12 | Nancy Osborne | it. |
| 02:11:17.92 | Herb Weiner | And I think that we really And we really have to grasp a hold of this because I don't want... people getting hurt because we're now forcing them out on the roadways where they shouldn't be. I mean, the spandex warrior that was young one of your terms, they're going to stay out on the streets anyway. It's these tourists and these local recreational bicyclists that if we can, I'd rather keep them off of those streets and get them on a safe pathway. Okay? |
| 02:11:53.02 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:11:53.06 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 02:11:53.97 | Herb Weiner | Any other comments here? Okay. |
| 02:11:57.81 | Mike Kelly | I think we should, 1 million times $12 a person is $12 million. So maybe a quick tax and a little gate at the end of the. No. Just kidding. Just kidding. |
| 02:12:06.61 | Linda Pfeifer | Just kidding. Yeah. |
| 02:12:08.58 | Linda Pfeifer | You know? |
| 02:12:09.12 | Mike Kelly | I'm sorry. |
| 02:12:09.20 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:12:09.34 | Mike Kelly | you |
| 02:12:09.53 | Linda Pfeifer | I do. I do. |
| 02:12:09.63 | Mike Kelly | Yeah. |
| 02:12:09.97 | Carolyn Ford | Bye. |
| 02:12:10.00 | Linda Pfeifer | I did. |
| 02:12:10.98 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:12:10.99 | Mike Kelly | Bye. |
| 02:12:11.03 | Herb Weiner | you |
| 02:12:11.08 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:12:11.11 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:12:11.25 | Mike Kelly | Yeah. Thank you. |
| 02:12:11.77 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:12:11.80 | Mike Kelly | I'm sorry. |
| 02:12:11.97 | Herb Weiner | That's why we call it Gate 5 and Gate 6. |
| 02:12:12.21 | Linda Pfeifer | Bye. |
| 02:12:12.24 | Linda Pfeifer | Bye. |
| 02:12:12.28 | Linda Pfeifer | That's right. |
| 02:12:12.65 | Linda Pfeifer | Bye. |
| 02:12:12.72 | Linda Pfeifer | Bye. |
| 02:12:12.73 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah. |
| 02:12:14.45 | Linda Pfeifer | Yeah. |
| 02:12:14.67 | Linda Pfeifer | Yeah. |
| 02:12:15.64 | Linda Pfeifer | I do have one comment, one quick comment about that. Yes, Council Member Pfeiffer. Thank you, Mayor Weiner, which is when I was looking at this, just a comment to, I know that this was raised in one of the committee meetings that I attended when, that ALTA was in. |
| 02:12:18.44 | Herb Weiner | Yes, Council Member Fyfe. |
| 02:12:32.39 | Linda Pfeifer | where there was a discussion on you know, quieting strategies to ensure that as as it was put, the spandex warriors do stay on the on the roadways. |
| 02:12:45.34 | Carolyn Ford | On the roll. |
| 02:12:45.98 | Nancy Osborne | Oh, my gosh. |
| 02:12:47.33 | Linda Pfeifer | And there are things that we can do, stop signs or what have you, that to ensure that the class three bike lanes are reserved for you know, for the slower set. Like me. Yeah. |
| 02:13:07.61 | Carolyn Ford | you |
| 02:13:07.78 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:13:07.80 | Herb Weiner | Yes. Okay. |
| 02:13:11.02 | Carolyn Ford | I'd like to make a motion, Mr. Mayor. |
| 02:13:13.67 | Herb Weiner | Is it commotion or emotion? |
| 02:13:15.14 | Carolyn Ford | Well, I hope it doesn't cause a commotion. Okay. My motion. But anyway, I'd like to move that we adopt the draft feasibility study. |
| 02:13:15.95 | Herb Weiner | and cause it can't happen. Okay. |
| 02:13:25.72 | Carolyn Ford | As a design concept for further development by our bicycle and pedestrian committee, and as a policy to guide procurement of grant funding for pedestrian and bicycle improvements along the Bridgeway Travel Corridor. |
| 02:13:43.06 | Mike Kelly | The only problem with that is we don't have a committee. |
| 02:13:45.36 | Carolyn Ford | but we can set one up. I don't, but that. |
| 02:13:47.84 | Mike Kelly | They won't get us here. |
| 02:13:47.89 | Herb Weiner | That won't get us here. That won't get us here. We could still do that, but let's move forward with this and create that. We should move forward with this and then if we're going to create a committee. |
| 02:13:53.26 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:13:53.29 | Mike Kelly | you should. |
| 02:13:53.46 | Mike Kelly | and I'm all for |
| 02:13:56.38 | Linda Pfeifer | I second. Thank you. Okay. |
| 02:14:03.11 | Herb Weiner | Let's call for a vote then, Maripa. |
| 02:14:05.69 | Linda Pfeifer | Well, we- |
| 02:14:06.17 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:14:06.35 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:14:06.39 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Go ahead. |
| 02:14:07.50 | Herb Weiner | Go ahead. I mean, I don't know what you're going to discuss, but go ahead. |
| 02:14:08.33 | Carolyn Ford | I don't know what you're saying. Well, I would just like to respond to Councilmember Kelly's comment. We have a provision to have a bicycle and pedestrian committee, and I believe we have one, but it's not populated at the moment. And I would like to ask our city attorney or our city manager if we do, in fact, have a bicycle pedestrian committee. I believe we do. |
| 02:14:15.04 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:14:42.67 | Todd Teachout | You had a bicycle and pedestrian committee Its authorization sunsetted, I believe, in June 30, 2010. But when the city's bike plan 2008 update was started, we discovered the same thing. So I would suggest that you direct staff to bring back the issue to allow reauthorization and possibly restructuring of that committee. The framework exists, but it's just... |
| 02:15:21.68 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:15:21.72 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:15:21.75 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:15:21.94 | Carolyn Ford | working. |
| 02:15:22.49 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:15:22.58 | Carolyn Ford | is. |
| 02:15:24.43 | Carolyn Ford | you Thank you. |
| 02:15:25.02 | Carolyn Ford | Oh. |
| 02:15:25.33 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:15:25.34 | Carolyn Ford | you |
| 02:15:25.43 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:15:25.49 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:15:25.60 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:15:25.77 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Okay, if we have some agreement that we could do that, reestablish the committee in the future. |
| 02:15:32.38 | Mike Kelly | future. No. |
| 02:15:32.94 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:15:32.97 | Mike Kelly | I don't understand what a committee would actually do because we've got a plan And the plan now needs to be fleshed out by our staff and others, but what would a committee do? |
| 02:15:45.91 | Carolyn Ford | A committee would bring the resident involvement |
| 02:15:49.51 | Mike Kelly | What would the resident bond, what would that be? |
| 02:15:49.86 | Carolyn Ford | into the project. The resident involvement would be to take a look at the issues, to make recommendations, to help with any grants, and to educate residents. In other words, |
| 02:16:02.23 | Nancy Osborne | And other things. |
| 02:16:03.60 | Carolyn Ford | to this plan we have needs some more work. I mean, it's not set in concrete. There are issues. Well, I like to see. Yeah. And yes, our consultant has pointed that out. So I would like to have our residents weighing in on how we want our city's bicycle plans to be, where we want our paths, our steps, and that kind of thing. |
| 02:16:11.89 | Linda Pfeifer | Sure. |
| 02:16:11.90 | Carolyn Ford | issues. Like you said. You said that. Yeah. you |
| 02:16:27.93 | Herb Weiner | Right. |
| 02:16:28.29 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:16:30.80 | Herb Weiner | Okay. What I would recommend that we do is we accept that we adopt this draft feasibility study and I'd be willing to... And we adopt this draft feasibility study and see if the grant money is available and comes to us. If it does then, I'd be willing to even have an open forum with the residents and if that's the case, educate them even more on what we're doing. I'd rather see the money rather than try to go through all of this process with the residents and not get the grant money. because then we're not anywhere. |
| 02:17:15.79 | Carolyn Ford | Well, Mr. Mayor, we would have a plan set forth and a plan that had been reviewed by the residents. |
| 02:17:16.01 | Herb Weiner | All right. and a plan. Well, I think as you see, it's broken down into segments. And that's why you put mid-term and long-term. And... Can I ask you, when you say long term, yes, |
| 02:17:33.10 | Nancy Osborne | long. |
| 02:17:36.19 | Herb Weiner | David Hoffman, would you come up here? And by the way, I don't know if he introduced himself from the Marin-Bank Coalition. |
| 02:17:43.62 | David Hoffman | Once again, David Hoffman with the Marin County Bicycle Coalition. I think you really have two issues here. You have the study in front of you, and then you have the issue of a bicycle and pedestrian advisory committee. Most of the municipalities in Marin have a standing BPAC, Bicycle and Pedestrian Advisory Committee. And what they would do is they'd take your adopted bike plan from 2008, any additional work you've done, like this study, and then work with the city to help develop a bike grant applications prioritize what segments would be done and it does a couple of things. Having a bicycle and pedestrian master plan allows you to apply for certain state monies and having an active BPAC also strengthens your hand when you apply for grants for some of these projects. Thank you. The two can happen independently, and I think that both moving forward would be really good. Some BPACs meet monthly, some meet once a year. Whatever works best for the city will work best. Thank you. |
| 02:18:47.98 | Herb Weiner | you Thank you, David. |
| 02:18:51.02 | Carolyn Ford | So could we then, based on his, David's recommendation, include a committee in this? |
| 02:18:58.31 | Herb Weiner | I'm not worried about excluding. I think let's go forward with this. We should adopt this plan. Then we should send the agenda. |
| 02:18:58.44 | Mike Kelly | I'm not worried about the shooting. We should adopt this plan. Then we should send the idea of a bike committee back to staff. I'd like to see what that would consist of, what it would do, you know, what, because just to have a committee, I mean the BPAC obviously is something that, We can study other communities that have them. Since I've been on the council, the one here that I know of ever report anything to the council in the eight years or seven years I've been doing this. So I think it needs to be well thought out, and it should not be a part of it, necessarily a part of this adoption act. It's a separate issue. I'm happy to consider it as a separate issue. |
| 02:19:37.20 | Linda Pfeifer | Bye. |
| 02:19:37.22 | Linda Pfeifer | I'm happy to be here. |
| 02:19:40.33 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:19:40.49 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:19:40.73 | Mike Kelly | to it. |
| 02:19:41.47 | Linda Pfeifer | I have you on record, Hertha. I'm also the resident. I'll leave there alone. I would defer to Council Member Ford who made the motion whether or not she wants him in but I would just say for the record that hearing the Bicycle Coalition's comments even speaking |
| 02:19:42.00 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:19:42.05 | Linda Pfeifer | If I may. |
| 02:19:42.92 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:19:42.96 | Linda Pfeifer | I love you. |
| 02:19:44.04 | Carolyn Ford | That's one record, her. |
| 02:19:44.97 | Linda Pfeifer | you |
| 02:19:45.02 | Carolyn Ford | you |
| 02:19:45.13 | Mike Kelly | I'm also the resident. |
| 02:19:46.97 | Carolyn Ford | I can't believe that it was. |
| 02:19:54.64 | Linda Pfeifer | I'm an intern. |
| 02:19:55.24 | Nancy Osborne | Thank you. |
| 02:20:05.15 | Linda Pfeifer | you know, the traction that can be gained with having, you know, that two-pronged approach with a citizen's resident advisory committee makes, just makes a lot of sense to me. And especially in Sausalito, it makes a lot of sense to me, getting that resident involvement. I mean, word of mouth, that is just, you cannot beat that kind of outreach, you know, when it's got a home, you know. |
| 02:20:32.91 | Mike Kelly | Yes. |
| 02:20:34.56 | Herb Weiner | The comment was made also that we have to move forward. Without the grant money, we're not going anywhere. |
| 02:20:42.29 | Adam Politzer | Mr. Mayor, may I maybe offer some assistance? I think |
| 02:20:42.53 | Herb Weiner | So... |
| 02:20:50.69 | Adam Politzer | We have two. options here and I'd like to recommend that you do separate the two items. because as you heard from David Hoffman there, and I think there's support from the staff to evaluate and repopulate a bicycle pedestrian committee and some of the comments that we heard from our community members. But I think just as we've done with the Arts Commission and we've done with some of our other committees, I think it's important that we define their purpose take some time to talk about what the membership looks like so separating that item having staff come back and make a recommendation on what the committee would look like what the membership would involve and then let the council give direction to staff maybe helpful direction As stated tonight, it's a $12 million project. We don't have the money today, so we know that we're not moving forward. The bicycle committee doesn't need to meet next month. But I do think that staff supports the idea and obviously from David Hoffman's recommendation, it strengthens our position as we go after future money. So that would be my recommendation to the council separate the two items. It sounds like there is consensus on supporting the conceptual plan here and to adopt that and then sounds like there is some support at least from three of the council members to look at adding this as an agenda item in the future to bring back the bicycle committee bicycle pedestrian committee for further direction. |
| 02:22:27.47 | Mike Kelly | I support that okay good all right and I |
| 02:22:28.21 | Carolyn Ford | Okay. All right, and I will then change, amend my motion based on... |
| 02:22:31.10 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:22:31.24 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:22:33.92 | Herb Weiner | Sure. |
| 02:22:35.99 | Carolyn Ford | See you. |
| 02:22:37.09 | Herb Weiner | the last report |
| 02:22:38.42 | Carolyn Ford | based on our city manager's comments. I move that we adopt the draft feasibility study as policy to guide procurement of grant funding for pedestrian bicycle improvements along the bridgeway travel corridor. |
| 02:22:38.64 | Herb Weiner | So, |
| 02:22:52.90 | Linda Pfeifer | Second. |
| 02:22:53.83 | Herb Weiner | Okay, all in favor? Aye. Aye. |
| 02:22:55.20 | Linda Pfeifer | Aye. |
| 02:22:56.01 | Carolyn Ford | Bye. |
| 02:22:56.29 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:22:56.95 | Todd Teachout | Thank you. Cut. Okay. I just wanted to acknowledge the volunteers who assisted behind this, the members of the TAC who are the mayor, Bonnie McGregor who couldn't be here because of an illness, Bill Werner, |
| 02:23:00.48 | Herb Weiner | All right. |
| 02:23:17.17 | Todd Teachout | David Hoffman, Michael Rex, Kate Flavin, Bob Mitchell, Patrick Seidler, Jacques Solman, Bruce Huff. And there are a few more that didn't show, but the people I named were there for most of the time and really provided some really valuable input. Thank you very much. |
| 02:23:37.32 | Herb Weiner | Okay, thank you, Todd. Thank you. At this time here, we're going to take a up to five minute break, and we'll be back after this commercial. |
| 02:23:38.78 | Todd Teachout | I'm not sure. |
| 02:23:39.07 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:23:39.14 | Todd Teachout | Thank you. |
| 02:23:46.89 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:23:53.03 | Herb Weiner | Okay. We're back, and at this time here, we're going to receive an update on the PG&E Smart. meter. Or not. |
| 02:24:06.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:24:07.07 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. you |
| 02:24:07.51 | Unknown | program. |
| 02:24:08.33 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:24:08.69 | Unknown | Jonathan. Thank you. |
| 02:24:09.38 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Your public works director, Jonathan Goldman. I don't really have a PowerPoint for this. Okay. No, it's, I just distributed it in the handout. |
| 02:24:17.38 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 02:24:21.97 | Unknown | So the objective really was... It's kind of funny for PG&E that you wouldn't have a PowerPoint, but go ahead. |
| 02:24:22.42 | Jonathon Goldman | The objective really was to... |
| 02:24:31.49 | Jonathon Goldman | In the interest of time, the objective this evening, Mr. Mayor and members of the council, was just to provide information and update since the last time that this council heard anything on this item. There's some background in the pieces of paper that went out as agenda item 6C. You've seen some of that before because I used the same format. Okay. As I think at our last episode, Assemblymember Huffman had asked, the California Council on Science and Technology to establish whether Federal Communications Commission standards for smart meters were sufficiently protective of public health. Some time went by while that Council evaluated those questions. In the interim, Assemblymember Huffman also introduced AB 37, addressing consumer concerns with smart meters Um, which would also, that proposed legislation would give consumers an opt-out alternative to wireless smart meters, require disclosures regarding the technology and performance of wireless meters. January 11th of this year, the California Council on Science and Technology bless you, issued their health report. Their key findings, number one, wireless smart meters when installed and properly maintained, result in much smaller levels of radio frequency exposure than many existing common household electronic devices, particularly cell phones and microwave ovens. Second, the current FCC standard provides an adequate factor of safety against known thermally induced health impacts of existing common household electronic devices and smart meters. Third, to date, scientific studies have not identified or confirmed negative health effects from potential non-thermal impacts of radio frequency emissions, such as those produced by existing common household electronic devices and smart meters. And then fourth, not enough is currently known about potential non-thermal impacts of those radio frequency emissions to identify or recommend additional standards. for such impacts. That same date, Assemblymember Huffman issued a press release, which I've appended to the staff report, quote, the study gives a fair assessment of the existing scientific literature on potential health effects, While it's reassuring regarding the remote potential for thermal effects, it also calls for more research. Um, paraphrasing, the Assemblyman indicated that this strongly validates the approach he's taken with AB 37. whether or not you believe there are health issues Utilities should give the consumers complete and accurate information regarding radio frequency emissions from smart meters, and customers should be allowed the alternative of having a hardwired smart meter. Also, just informationally, as council may be aware, January 4th, Marin County Board of Supervisors adopted an urgency ordinance and then I appended some information, some copies of New York Times articles as well as Marin Independent Journal article and then a copy of the county's urgency ordinance for your information. I'm happy to try and answer questions, but It's just a status update, and you have all of my knowledge in this staff report. |
| 02:28:16.06 | Mike Kelly | Do you have a copy of AB 37? |
| 02:28:18.56 | Jonathon Goldman | I do not. I can certainly make one available. |
| 02:28:25.80 | Herb Weiner | Any other, any questions? Linda, I'll go back here. |
| 02:28:32.19 | Carolyn Ford | I had no questions. |
| 02:28:33.62 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Let's go to the public for comment. Chuck Donald, you did mark down the right number and alphabet, but we changed it on you. |
| 02:28:47.80 | Chuck Donald | Chuck Donald, 254 Spencer Avenue. for my fourth appearance tonight, and this is the only reason I came. I'll admit to a bias against PG&E that has stemmed for several years. But what I want to talk about tonight came from the letter that they wrote to me, and it's given to a lot of people in town, said, we're about to install a smart meter We're excited to tell you that we will install a SNAP meter and you can start regulating Here. power usage. It's on me to change. And they're not going to change anything, but they're going to give me the, the information. My answer to that was, About 10 years ago, I dealt with PG&E and had them put in a time of use meter, and I've been getting that information for 10 years. So this smart meter doesn't do it. Darn thing. that I don't already have, so there's no advantage to me. I wrote that in a letter, sent it. PG&E and I got a call. I guess it was Friday. And the fellow started telling me all the information that Jonathan has just said. going in about as good a direction as I could hope for. But during this call, there were two or three things came up that I would like to make a little bit more public. One of them, he went into the story about the radiation, the radio frequency radiation from these meters, He started out by saying, well, it's going to be outside your house, and it has to go through all the walls, so it's not going to hurt you by the time it gets to you. Then we went on. And he said, well, you know, the way we collect this stuff, oh, and I had made a Notice that Verizon would change the antennas on their antenna at the firehouse. cell phone. So without having raised that question with him, I went on a little bit. and said, well, how does that information from my meter Get to you, PG&E. He said, We're going to have intermittent poles. I think he said a tenth of a mile. And the local... radiation, the radio signal, can travel that far. and it'll hit this pole. that they will put up. has an antenna, has an automatic a cell phone connection. And I said, well, who's that cell phone to? He says, well, it's from Verizon. I had never said anything to him about Verizon, and I knew they changed out their antennas, that it'll go to Verizon. Verizon will be picking up. If his story is true and if I got it right, Verizon will be picking up information off of poles around town at about one-tenth mile interval. He used that figure, a tenth of a mile, which isn't very far. It's 500 feet or so. And then I went on to say, well, these signals that have trouble getting through the walls of my house. How do they get to that meter? Each smart meter in your neighborhood acts as a relay point for your meter until it gets to that pole. So the meter there's two. Am I finished? Okay. The strength from that meter, there's a couple of things you can consider. One of them he said that it, The meters will broadcast at very small time intervals, but throughout the 24-hour period. He says the total will be about 45 seconds a day for any given meter. But if I've got to go through. five more houses to get up there, or they have to go through me my house, that increases by five times. It's 45 seconds. And it also could increase the intensity of the signal that's coming through. I don't know. I'm an engineer, but I'm not a radio engineer, so I can't argue too strongly. Logically, it seems like if those five or eight people, whatever it is, are sending their meters through my house, I'm going to get more radiation. And then finally I said, well then, okay, how does that get from that pole that one tenth of a mile apart that is received from all of my neighbors in me up there and so he said it goes to Verizon, he brought that up. I didn't bring up Verizon, he brought up Verizon. I said, how does it get there? He says, well, it goes on their system. And what happens to it then? He said, well, they broadcast it to our headquarters in Kern County. So not only is it picking up the local, little bits of radiation, it's increasing the traffic on Verizon's system. All this is a subject to question, but these are points that had never been brought out before, about the meters being relays for each other, and then gathered up, accumulated, and sent down there. And he never did answer how it's going to benefit me, because I already get that. time that rate from PG&E anyhow, I just don't broadcast it to anybody. pedestrian meter reader gets it and gives the data to them But there's no financial benefit to me Uh, So I'm through ranting. But I think PG&E should be more open about what they're doing, how they're transmitting that data, and when, where, how. Thank you. |
| 02:33:55.50 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, Chuck. Get a charge out of that. |
| 02:34:02.75 | Herb Weiner | That's all right. We know you. Come on up, Nancy. |
| 02:34:06.01 | Linda Pfeifer | Yeah. |
| 02:34:09.35 | Nancy Osborne | Mayor Weiner and Council Members. I'm Nancy Osborne. Kendall Court. And you received late mail. I don't know how many of you had time to read what I bombarded you with today on this subject. However, I had introduced the subject previously by emailing some of the documents. statements from our wireless ordinance that exists and I'm wondering why these things having to do with smart meters are not being addressed via our existing ordinance. And I think. The definition of the wireless communication facilities from that ordinance says A land use that sends and or receives radio frequency signals including antennas, microwave dishes or horns. structures or towers to support receiving and or transmitting devices, accessory devices and structures in the land on which they are situated. I think from having heard Chuck's description about how Verizon is involved in this. we need to see why we cannot have our own ordinance that addresses these issues and calls for reporting on what's happening and then I also sent the the testing electromagnetic field exposure. I'm not going to go into all of this that it says because I know If you haven't had a chance to read it in late mail, you can, but all I want to bring forth is we have an ordinance that seems to me would justify at least, if nothing else, some sort of a stop work order to Verizon and to Smart Meter until this gets sorted out as to how the things that Chuck has addressed, I had one thing I didn't forward to you because Vicki Nichols had sent it to me, it's from TURN, which is that it's not. I regret it. As I recall, they're a citizen-operated the watchdog I guess you'd call them on electric companies and what they're doing and this goes in it says one thing that The meters, this kind of builds on what Chuck said, the meters transmit transmit pulses of microwave energy roughly every minute around the clock. and even repeat the signals from neighboring meters in what's called a mesh network. PG is also installing additional antennas outside on our light and power poles. and their official line is that no customer is allowed to opt out of receiving its wireless meters. And that brings us to Jared Huffman. Uh, AB 37, which he's introduced, which I think we need more information on, I would like to see us up. put in some sort of a moratorium. It doesn't have to be an official moratorium. But at least something |
| 02:37:11.06 | Linda Pfeifer | Absolutely. |
| 02:37:13.46 | Nancy Osborne | that makes that gets us on top of our own wireless ordinance and how it applies. The thing that happened with the Board of Supervisors was they passed this moratorium and then the sheriff said, well, I'm not going to enforce it, and I think the thing sort of died. but we're not the county. We have our own enforcement We have a police department. And anyway, I think that we should... we should proceed Along these lines, tomorrow I will forward this info on smart meter transmission methods but It goes on on some of the things in this. The difference between the thermal induced And the non-thermal is where the rubber hits the road on this. Because even though the non-thermal means the heating of effects, and they can find all sorts of things that say, these aren't going to hurt you. But the non-thermal effects, they go into how these are Again, I won't go into the details, but you can read some of the things that they have to say. of the kinds of things, and the one main thing is the brain barrier all and that it can break down the brain barrier the barrier And They say that this kind of microwave pulsing works differently than more continuous cell phone radiation and it's much more dangerous. Anyway, I won't read further, but I will send it to you. And actually, all I'm asking is let's get... Let's get a handle on just where we stand with this. Can we support AB 37 so that at the very least people can opt out, Can we get this on as an agenda item beyond Jonathan giving us an update which doesn't really Let the people come in and get some more opinions than are being expressed tonight. Thank you. |
| 02:39:07.81 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you, Nancy. And the answer is yes. Thank you. Vice Mayor. |
| 02:39:11.82 | Nancy Osborne | Thank you. |
| 02:39:11.84 | Mike Kelly | I was just going to say, in response to Nancy's request, I saw your email today, and I sent an email to the city manager asking that we check with the PUC and find out what kind of exemptions apply to power pole stuff. In other words, is the power pole an exempt unit that PG&E can do what they want to with, much like their meters on your house? Because if they are, then we're as powerless there as we are with the meters themselves in terms of state action. It's a state-mandated issue. So I want to put our emphasis where, from my point of view, I want to put the emphasis where we can do some good. And I'm thinking, although I haven't read AB 37, I've seen a couple of descriptions of it, but I haven't read it. I think getting behind that bill and putting a lot of political pressure in that area gives us a lot more hope than, because that would overrule the PUC, and we can't, and that's the problem. So that's where I want to put my emphasis. I think somebody else wanted to talk. |
| 02:40:18.90 | Herb Weiner | I don't know. Linda, before I get to your John, I'm sure you're going to have a motor. |
| 02:40:28.70 | Jeanne Fidler | I'm Jeanne Fidler and I live at 501 Ulema Street. That's spelled J-E-A-N-N-E. And so I wanted to present myself |
| 02:40:36.75 | Linda Pfeifer | I wanted to present myself. |
| 02:40:38.68 | Jeanne Fidler | Thank you. I wanted to present myself to you because I wanted to give you a case history, which is my own. I'm not. I live with migraine-related epilepsy. And if electricity surges, I surge. and I live in a very dizzy fashion. And so when this smart meter appeared on my bedroom wall, I immediately noticed that I couldn't sleep, that I was off balance and I got a headache. So switched my bed to the other wall. And so now I sleep. The strange thing about electromagnetic waves is They just, you have to sort of somehow live around them. So I don't have anything at all. in my house that has electromagnetic waves. And the reason why I've come to you is because my Migraine-related epilepsy was diagnosed in 1996 by my neurologist as due to hormone replacement therapy. Hormone replacement therapy in 1996 was considered to be a safe drug. And it took them several more years to stop it because it was anything but safe. And so I would like to see more research done on this whole thing For future generations, because we live in this strange age where everybody's getting electromagnetic waves to their heads. and it can have dire consequences if you're going to get it. like I did. Thank you. |
| 02:42:12.89 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. I'll bring it up here. Mr. Mayor. Pfeiffer. |
| 02:42:14.58 | Jeanne Fidler | Thank you. |
| 02:42:14.59 | Linda Pfeifer | Mr. Mayor. Thank you. So, um... |
| 02:42:20.20 | Herb Weiner | I |
| 02:42:20.25 | Linda Pfeifer | I... Yeah, that's true. Okay, so... |
| 02:42:27.47 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:42:27.50 | Herb Weiner | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:42:27.67 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:42:27.81 | Linda Pfeifer | I'm looking at our ordinance. Now, I'm looking at our ordinance, and it seems so straightforward to me. Wireless communication facilities, a clear definition, |
| 02:42:27.84 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:42:28.50 | Herb Weiner | Sorry. |
| 02:42:28.77 | Carolyn Ford | Oh, yeah. |
| 02:42:28.84 | Herb Weiner | I'm sorry. |
| 02:42:28.97 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:42:37.34 | Linda Pfeifer | We had residents working on this zoning ordinance, standards and criteria for wireless communication facilities. Um, conditional use permits, All wireless communication facilities shall require a conditional use permit and design approval, very specific. So the fact that we're not Uh, s- uh... requiring the smart meters, the associated towers and the nodules that are associated with transmission to Our own wireless ordinance is something that I don't understand. AND IT'S A GREAT |
| 02:43:18.55 | Mike Kelly | And it. |
| 02:43:19.68 | Linda Pfeifer | I did hear what you said about the PUC, but I still feel that this is so straightforward and direct. I mean, I just... |
| 02:43:32.66 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. Just put it in. because |
| 02:43:34.31 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 02:43:34.36 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:43:34.46 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 02:43:34.51 | Mike Kelly | you |
| 02:43:34.58 | Mary Wagner | All right. |
| 02:43:35.21 | Linda Pfeifer | It's his myth. |
| 02:43:35.24 | Mary Wagner | So you're, |
| 02:43:35.68 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:43:36.40 | Linda Pfeifer | So I'd like Mary's opinion on that. |
| 02:43:38.85 | Mary Wagner | It's a preemption issue. I mean, the PG&E and the utility is regulated by the PUC, so it's likely preempted. by the PUC's regulation, which is why the PUC was taking the studies on the electromagnetic fields that are related to this and why they got the CCST study that they requested. So I believe the answer to your question is a preemption issue, and I think that's |
| 02:44:06.09 | Linda Pfeifer | So you're saying there's nothing we can do with this ordinance on the book? I didn't say there's no... |
| 02:44:10.98 | Mary Wagner | I didn't say there's nothing you can do. I said I believe that it's preempted by the PUC's regulation of utilities. |
| 02:44:12.92 | Linda Pfeifer | I believe that |
| 02:44:16.92 | Linda Pfeifer | So what is your recommendation? What are our options if we wanted to act against this? |
| 02:44:23.38 | Mary Wagner | I mean, the council can direct us to look into it further. You've seen the statements in the press from other Marin County jurisdictions who have adopted these types of regulations, and then the enforcement is difficult at best. I think that's a good question. |
| 02:44:47.26 | Linda Pfeifer | Okay, so I'm just going to say this. I move to impose a moratorium on smart meter installation for residents with health considerations. |
| 02:44:56.92 | Mary Wagner | If I could jump in really quickly there, Council Member Pfeiffer. If the council wishes to direct the staff to return, |
| 02:44:57.30 | Linda Pfeifer | I could jump. |
| 02:45:04.37 | Mary Wagner | with the moratorium, there are specific findings we need to have you make about health and safety related concerns, it's something that we would need to bring back to you after council direction to do so. |
| 02:45:14.70 | Mike Kelly | Look, it seems to me that that make everybody feel good. But it does nothing. And what does do something is for us to have her come back with a resolution of supporting Jared Huffman's AB 37 And with letters going to the PUC accordingly, and letters going to Huffman and any other legislator we think would be appropriately so notified. So we can build a consensus at the state level, get a state law passed that then PREEMPTS THE PUC. DO WE NEED A MOTION? |
| 02:45:45.36 | Linda Pfeifer | Do we need a motion for that then? I withdraw my motion and restate it. |
| 02:45:49.94 | Mike Kelly | Sure, you can turn that into a motion. I'll restate it. |
| 02:45:50.83 | Linda Pfeifer | I'll restate it and I move to direct staff to come back with a resolution supporting Huffman's AB 37, I believe it is. |
| 02:46:06.71 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:46:06.83 | Mike Kelly | Mm-hmm. along with appropriate letters to the PUC, PG&E, PG&E, every other legislator that we think would be worthwhile to send it to. |
| 02:46:12.89 | Linda Pfeifer | Really? |
| 02:46:17.10 | Mike Kelly | Well... |
| 02:46:17.63 | Linda Pfeifer | With appropriate letters to PUC, PG&E and other entities as recommended by staff. |
| 02:46:19.82 | Mike Kelly | to everybody. Yeah. And we might even say that. You can not even send a letter to all the jurisdictions in Marin and ask them to do the same. And then we might expand that to San Francisco and just make this a campaign as opposed to just sitting by and letting |
| 02:46:33.22 | Carolyn Ford | this |
| 02:46:36.55 | Mike Kelly | you know, PG&E Bengalis. |
| 02:46:40.00 | Carolyn Ford | I know Mill Valley has already done that. Yeah. |
| 02:46:42.38 | Mike Kelly | Yeah, I think it's a good idea. I do too. |
| 02:46:46.23 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:46:46.26 | Linda Pfeifer | Okay. |
| 02:46:47.02 | Herb Weiner | Do I have a second? |
| 02:46:47.31 | Carolyn Ford | Do I have a second? |
| 02:46:47.77 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:46:48.69 | Herb Weiner | I second. |
| 02:46:49.35 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:46:49.98 | Herb Weiner | And third. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? And by the way, look, for what PG&E has pulled off in the last few years, whether it's the gas lines, whether it's against our own energy company here in Marin County and the Smart Meter, |
| 02:46:50.16 | Carolyn Ford | And third. |
| 02:46:50.84 | Linda Pfeifer | . |
| 02:46:51.93 | Carolyn Ford | Bye. |
| 02:46:51.97 | Michael Racks | Bye. |
| 02:46:52.02 | Linda Pfeifer | Bye. |
| 02:46:52.07 | Michael Racks | I'm back. |
| 02:46:52.37 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:46:52.39 | Michael Racks | Bye. |
| 02:46:52.42 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:46:53.03 | Michael Racks | Bye. |
| 02:46:53.23 | Linda Pfeifer | Bye. |
| 02:46:53.39 | Michael Racks | I'm opposed. |
| 02:47:11.36 | Herb Weiner | There's no question up here. I think all of us realize there's not a trust there. There is no trust between municipalities and PG&E. So... you We'll see if we can go through the back door. Okay. |
| 02:47:28.18 | Mike Kelly | All right, thank you. Oh, Chuck wanted to say something. |
| 02:47:31.15 | Herb Weiner | Chuck, fifth time. |
| 02:47:32.25 | Chuck Donald | Thank you. |
| 02:47:32.91 | Mike Kelly | Bye. |
| 02:47:37.48 | Chuck Donald | I regret having to come in out of order, but I think sponsoring or backing the resolutions was it 37? that Jonathan is doing, I think that's great. I think Mike Kelly's statement of getting to PUC is great. I'm already doing both of those things on my own, independent of whatever City says, But I'd like to throw in one other thing. And it ended up being about a half hour phone call with this PG&E guy talking to me. I told him, I said, well, Let me back up. At one point in my career a few years back, I had a fairly responsible management position with the Southern California Edison Company So I have followed quite closely what they're doing. went online and looked at their position. They have adopted, and they are under the control of the state PUC just as well. PG&E. And their position is that they are going to offer this in their jurisdiction sometime in the near future. With them. reservation that people can voluntarily opt out. And I raised that point with a PG&E representative, and he said, oh no, you got it wrong. Well, I invited him and each of you to look at the Southern California Edison Company's web page and see if it doesn't say voluntary. Thank you. |
| 02:49:02.90 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 02:49:03.32 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:49:04.25 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 02:49:04.56 | Chuck Donald | Thank you. |
| 02:49:04.98 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:49:05.30 | Adam Politzer | And... |
| 02:49:05.52 | Herb Weiner | Yes. Okay, with that, we'll end that and move on to adopting a resolution accepting easement over APN 065-041-10. I won't read all the other numbers. For sewer purposes in order to facilitate state-revolving loan financing. Mary? Mary? |
| 02:49:33.78 | Mary Wagner | Yes. |
| 02:49:37.33 | Mary Wagner | Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of the City Council. . On your dais tonight is the draft resolution that at the end Steph is going to ask you to adopt, and as you can see from the title of the PowerPoint presentation up here, I've called it Priority 1B Sewer Projects Financing. And the reason for that is because, oops, sorry. |
| 02:50:03.75 | Mary Wagner | Hold on, technical difficulties. |
| 02:50:08.46 | Mary Wagner | that this is related to the city's efforts to get the revolving fund financing released from the State Water Resources Control Board for the Priority 1B sewer projects, which for lack of, or for ease of reference, is the long Spinnaker drive from Spinnaker Restaurant all the way down to Bridgeway? That one. And I'm going to continue to have difficulty with the pointer here, but let's see if I can make it work. So the State Water Resources Control Board has a number of requirements in order to release financing for this project. One of the things that they require is certification from staff about access and ownership of land where the project is located. This includes a certification that the city has access to construct, operate, maintain, and allow for outside inspections of the project, in this case, the sewer project. The CIRA project involves portions of city-owned property and portions of privately-owned property. It includes a lift station and includes some work at the Spinnaker Restaurant. which is the lot, the parcel is owned by the city, but it also includes a pipeline which runs along property which is owned by Sausalito Yacht Harbor or Madden and Lewis. And those are the parcel numbers that you see located up there. And then there's an additional public right-of-way areas along Humboldt's. and railroad. There's a depiction for you of the proposed area of the easement, areas A and B. are the areas of the privately owned issue. In order to accept an interest in real property, we need city council action. We can't record a deed. accepting an interest in real property, including an easement. without a certificate of acceptance by the City Council, the city council has the ability to delegate that authority to accept real property to staff, and that's in the California Government Code. Staff is recommending that you adopt a resolution designating or authorizing the city manager or his designee to accept an easement for sewer purposes over the identified parcels. And we're bringing this to you tonight in the hopes that we can get the property owner's agreement to these easements, which essentially memorializes the line that's already in place and clarifies the city's ability in order to facilitate getting the financing released from the state so that hopefully the city staff can bring you an item on March 8th to award the contract for the bids that have already been opened. We're getting to the point where those bids are going to be stale, and we're going to have to reject them for too much time going by. So this is one of the outstanding issues with the state. The other is a Prop 218 opinion that we're... fairly confident we're going to be able to work out And with that, I would be happy to answer any questions. |
| 02:53:19.05 | Unknown | Thank you. Any questions? Any public comment? |
| 02:53:23.28 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:53:26.54 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 02:53:27.53 | Mike Kelly | Let me just say this is so I understand, and I think I do, but for the record. This is to give advantage to the city to be able to have clarity where, not only to gain easy financing and make the process of financing easier, but also to gain a recorded access, ability to access sewer lines and repair them along that corridor that It runs from an east-west east-west? Yeah, east-west |
| 02:53:58.35 | Mary Wagner | Correct, we haven't been able to locate that documentation. If in fact we can locate it between now and |
| 02:53:58.38 | Mike Kelly | That's correct. MR. That's right. Right. MR. Right. Right. MR. Right. Right. Right. MR. Right. Right. Thank you. |
| 02:54:06.13 | Mary Wagner | you know, the time for release of the funding, that would help as well. But the point of bringing this to you now is to facilitate getting the release of those funds. |
| 02:54:15.29 | Mike Kelly | Okay. it. I move that we make that resolution that you put up there. I need to look at it again. |
| 02:54:21.23 | Linda Pfeifer | Yeah. |
| 02:54:22.89 | Mike Kelly | because we don't have it. That we adopt a resolution, City Council, City of Los Lito, authorizing City Manager or designee to accept an easement for sewer purposes over APN 065041-10, 065041-4. 065-041-505 and 065-04106. |
| 02:54:44.43 | Carolyn Ford | Second. |
| 02:54:45.14 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. certainly I think you said all four. And it should have been all four. OK. Let me the last digits on each. All the rest of them. |
| 02:54:50.66 | Mike Kelly | Okay, let me, the last digits on each, all the rest of them are the same, so it's 10, 4, 5, and 6. Okay. |
| 02:54:54.04 | Carolyn Ford | It's the same, so it's |
| 02:54:59.77 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:54:59.81 | Herb Weiner | May I have a second? |
| 02:54:59.84 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah. |
| 02:55:00.74 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:55:00.77 | Carolyn Ford | So good. |
| 02:55:01.39 | Herb Weiner | Okay. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Okay. |
| 02:55:03.07 | Carolyn Ford | I know. |
| 02:55:03.62 | Mike Kelly | Bye. |
| 02:55:03.71 | Carolyn Ford | Bye. Thank you. |
| 02:55:06.34 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 02:55:06.83 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:55:08.85 | Mike Kelly | Go and get easement. |
| 02:55:11.35 | Herb Weiner | Okay. That's it. City manager report information Maybe. |
| 02:55:23.32 | Adam Politzer | I was very good busy night tonight here productive and I'll keep my items here concise for benefit of time. Just a few reminders here. The next MCCMC meeting is in Novato next Wednesday night, the 23rd. Please let us know if you're planning on attending. March 17th is the special City Council meeting at the Bay Model, introducing our new police chief, Jennifer Tejada. She will be here working as our chief beginning Tuesday at 22nd. |
| 02:55:47.43 | Nancy Osborne | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:55:47.50 | Linda Pfeifer | you |
| 02:55:47.58 | Nancy Osborne | Thank you. |
| 02:55:47.61 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:55:47.68 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:55:47.70 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:55:48.04 | Linda Pfeifer | Right here. |
| 02:55:48.51 | Nancy Osborne | Thank you. |
| 02:56:08.84 | Mike Kelly | Can I just say what that date was again? |
| 02:56:09.99 | Adam Politzer | Jennifer Tejada and her special party. Introducing her to our community will be March 17th, which is St. Patrick's Day. Oh, yeah. And the time is 4 o'clock. And, yes, Jennifer is originally from Ireland and moved out here to go to college. |
| 02:56:10.85 | Mike Kelly | Yes. |
| 02:56:18.41 | Carolyn Ford | Oh yeah. |
| 02:56:19.10 | Nancy Osborne | Thank you. |
| 02:56:27.14 | Mike Kelly | down here to go. That's for the public. That's for everybody. |
| 02:56:30.66 | Adam Politzer | Yep, there's invitations that are starting to circulate. You folks will receive them. There's one right here, a flyer that's here on the table for the public. And all the various service organizations will be receiving the announcement electronically. |
| 02:56:30.68 | Mike Kelly | Yep. |
| 02:56:47.39 | Mike Kelly | What's your start date? |
| 02:56:48.92 | Adam Politzer | The 22nd next Tuesday. And so opportunity for public and council members to stop in, but we thought that it's an opportunity to do the official pin ceremony, welcome her, let her say a few words, and then let her mingle with our community. That's all the same. |
| 02:57:05.36 | Mike Kelly | Not until the 17th. |
| 02:57:06.35 | Adam Politzer | March 25th is our next Council Management Team Strategic Planning Retreat. That's an all-day event as we discussed a couple of Council meetings ago to set that date. So again, mark out your day. Michelle Murphy, who's our facilitator, will be contacting you folks and management team members ahead of time to just get your perspective on various things that are going well and opportunities for improvements and just your own vision looking forward into the next few years. So we look forward to your participation and working with Michelle ahead of time. I will be out of the country starting tomorrow down under and Charlie Francis will be the acting city manager during my absence. I will be receiving email and have very limited access to phones. So if there's a real need to get a hold of me, Charlie will be able to do that. And then email, I'll try to check as often as I can. And again, Charlie will be giving me a daily and weekly report if necessary. That concludes my report. |
| 02:57:06.42 | Mike Kelly | Yeah. |
| 02:58:31.03 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:58:33.36 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:58:33.38 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Um, At this time here, I guess I'm on for appointments. I would like you to... Have one of these. |
| 02:58:53.29 | Herb Weiner | Did you get one? And what I've done is, first of all, I want you to |
| 02:59:02.88 | Herb Weiner | Look at the route, first of all, the paper underneath it. That is going to be the course tentatively I've been told that is going to be the cause. at the America's Cup race. And if you really look at it, It really comes right there, but it kind of comes directly at Spinnaker. and then makes a turn. towards San Francisco. and goes right along the front. of Bridgeway. right to the Golden Gate Bridge. It goes outside the bridge because in order for the rules, I believe, for America's Cup, it has to be an open race. |
| 02:59:37.11 | Mike Kelly | You have to cut his mask off because he doesn't fit. |
| 02:59:38.85 | Herb Weiner | No, these aren't that big. The mega yachts are 23 stories high. They'll have a hard time. So what I've done is, and I've made a... |
| 02:59:40.98 | Mike Kelly | So, |
| 02:59:51.90 | Herb Weiner | So look, it's going to be a great impact on our town. So at this time here, what I've done is I've formed these ad hoc committee committees. to move forward with giving us, you know, within, I hope, a three-month range time, to come back to us with suggestions, recommendations. It's their think tanks. OK? I think if you look at the committee, at the Maritime Group, that's all people that are very involved with the waterfront. if you look at the business committee. By the way, there'll be alternates that we... |
| 03:00:32.67 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:00:37.36 | Herb Weiner | And there will be also subcommittees, so it just isn't this. If you look at the community committee, what I've done is I've attempted to pick people from all parts of town. If you look, you've got Richardson, South Street, Sausalito Boulevard, Litho, Napa, Casanova, and Lincoln. So that's kind of a representative of each area on this. And as I said, there will be an alternate and there will be subcommittees, but I need something to go forward. to be able to, and if you look over there, the overall chairperson will be Jim Gabbett, who is now the Commodore. of the Sausalito Yacht Club. The facilitator has donated his time, John Williams, so there's no cost to us. man |
| 03:01:28.07 | Linda Pfeifer | Yeah. |
| 03:01:28.35 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:01:28.74 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 03:01:28.76 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. John Williams murdered. |
| 03:01:31.24 | Carolyn Ford | What? |
| 03:01:31.80 | Herb Weiner | I'm not. |
| 03:01:31.88 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:01:33.40 | Herb Weiner | My marketing. |
| 03:01:34.21 | Carolyn Ford | Oh, of course. You mentioned him. Yes, I know who he is. Okay, great. Yeah. |
| 03:01:35.29 | Herb Weiner | You mentioned him. Yes, I know who he is. Okay, great. It's just getting this off the ground that we... This is a think tank. |
| 03:01:43.09 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:01:43.46 | Herb Weiner | And I want them to to think. |
| 03:01:46.99 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah. |
| 03:01:47.03 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:01:47.84 | Carolyn Ford | I have a couple names for you. Yes, I have them. |
| 03:01:49.26 | Herb Weiner | Yes, I have them and I got yours today and they will be submitted. for either the alternate in the committee. As I see, if you look at the business committee, I try to get it all in there. The Spinnaker, Horizons, Poggio, a kind of downtown. Sushi Ron kind of represents the business community. On Caledonia Street, Greg Christie, Bay Cities, Mike Stone, Marley Stones, and Marina O'Neill from Bay Adventures. |
| 03:02:21.34 | Carolyn Ford | We don't have anyone from the wooden boat school in that whole organization. Thank you. |
| 03:02:28.28 | Herb Weiner | Um, |
| 03:02:29.54 | Carolyn Ford | Could I recommend someone for that? |
| 03:02:31.28 | Herb Weiner | Go ahead, throw it at me. |
| 03:02:32.23 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Irv Govman, he's their finance person. |
| 03:02:37.75 | Herb Weiner | Gerv, what's the last name? |
| 03:02:39.57 | Carolyn Ford | G-U-V-M-A-N. |
| 03:02:41.31 | Herb Weiner | Mm-hmm. |
| 03:02:43.55 | Carolyn Ford | And there's another fellow in town who would, I think, would be great on the community committee. All right. Well, we'll tell you. Let me just tell you, he worked on, in Newport, Rhode Island. |
| 03:02:50.18 | Herb Weiner | All right, well, we'll tell you. |
| 03:02:57.07 | Herb Weiner | Is that Hendricks? |
| 03:02:58.45 | Carolyn Ford | No, it's Bob Casani. |
| 03:03:01.64 | Herb Weiner | Okay, you can submit that and I'll make Irv Goodman, it's fine if you want to make, I'll put him right down as a maritime on the alternate. And by the way, hopefully, I have spoken to all these people. I have spoken to them and asked them if they'd be involved. Hopefully they'll stay, but you know, in a matter of three months, things can, things happen. |
| 03:03:25.57 | Linda Pfeifer | Yeah. |
| 03:03:25.84 | Herb Weiner | And that's why we need an alternate. And we need a subcommittee. And by the way, they've all been informed, all the chairpersons, that a subcommittee will go up. |
| 03:03:34.46 | Mike Kelly | Yeah, they're going to figure out, each group is going to figure out what it is they want to do and what they're going to do and then form groups to take care of them. |
| 03:03:41.58 | Carolyn Ford | Subcommittee. |
| 03:03:42.11 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:03:42.14 | Carolyn Ford | Yes. |
| 03:03:42.88 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah. |
| 03:03:43.20 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Good. Well then, do you have those two names? Because Irv Govman and Bob Cassoni are the two that I would like to recommend. Okay. Who I think... |
| 03:03:50.24 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Thank you. Now, Bob Cassani is for community, right? |
| 03:03:55.05 | Carolyn Ford | Yes, either one, but he worked in Newport, Rhode Island. |
| 03:03:55.67 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Okay. Yeah, and let me go over real quickly so you know, if you notice like on the community, and I'll only take another minute, Bill Werner, we all know Bill. Stanley Stern lives on South Street. He is on the board of directors of the Golden Gate Yard Club and they're the driving force. |
| 03:04:00.75 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah. |
| 03:04:22.30 | Linda Pfeifer | Good. |
| 03:04:22.81 | Herb Weiner | I'd like to have the liaison communication. Phil Fleischman, I don't know if you know Phil, he's been in this town about 40 years. very involved in the town, in voting. And also, Larry Ellison is a client of his for 20 years, and I like that kind of direction in here. Jacques Allman, you know Jacques? |
| 03:04:42.55 | Nancy Osborne | call. |
| 03:04:42.75 | Mary Wagner | Bye. |
| 03:04:42.79 | Nancy Osborne | you |
| 03:04:44.41 | Herb Weiner | Everybody knows Jacques Oman. Doreen Dunant. Everybody know Doreen. And I know Susan Rowe. And. As I said, I need to get this started as quick as I can because I think within three months, I'd like to really have something, some direction that this council could feel comfortable with going with. going to or going in. So with that, I would like to submit this list and have it accepted. We'll go from there. |
| 03:05:21.48 | Linda Pfeifer | So, I knew it was so. Is it an ad hoc committee or a task force? |
| 03:05:21.77 | Herb Weiner | I knew it was so. |
| 03:05:27.08 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 03:05:27.12 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:05:27.19 | Linda Pfeifer | That's a good question. |
| 03:05:28.86 | Herb Weiner | Well, let's put it this way. Some call it a sphere, some call it an arrow. |
| 03:05:34.54 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. Bye. |
| 03:05:35.25 | Herb Weiner | . |
| 03:05:36.64 | Chuck Donald | Thank you. |
| 03:05:36.77 | Mike Kelly | The impact is going to be so great. |
| 03:05:37.19 | Chuck Donald | It's so funny. |
| 03:05:42.93 | Herb Weiner | The impact is going to be so great. |
| 03:05:48.75 | Herb Weiner | And by the way, they'll be separated. There'll be some overlapping no matter what. But at least you'll get information from just the maritime... |
| 03:05:49.26 | Mike Kelly | I'm not sure. They'll wait so much. |
| 03:05:58.49 | Herb Weiner | where they think they should be going, the business community, and how we feel as a community. community people. and what things are going to happen and how they're going to... I'm not worried about it. I think we pick names that really know how to give us the information that we need to go forward. |
| 03:06:19.35 | Mike Kelly | In a sense, this is like what the city did with the Tour of California. Basically, we had the three amigos. Yeah, but he is. Help me out here. It was Scott Paul and Greg Christie. Jeff Shirash and Greg Christie. Yeah. And then there were all these committees formed underneath them to do the various things. |
| 03:06:28.61 | Herb Weiner | Yeah, but he is. Help me out here. Help me out here. my poem. |
| 03:06:32.26 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 03:06:32.46 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:06:32.49 | Linda Pfeifer | Yeah. |
| 03:06:33.00 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:06:33.17 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 03:06:33.22 | Herb Weiner | Oh, gosh. |
| 03:06:33.77 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 03:06:33.79 | Chuck Donald | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:06:34.53 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:06:34.60 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 03:06:34.69 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:06:34.92 | Linda Pfeifer | Yeah. |
| 03:06:39.72 | Mike Kelly | You hear that? |
| 03:06:41.54 | Charlie Francis | THE FAMILY. Yeah. |
| 03:06:42.92 | Mike Kelly | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:06:42.97 | Charlie Francis | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:06:43.02 | Mike Kelly | That's a win. And then we're divided into three groups with one chair at the top. Don't get rattled, folks. Don't get rattled. But it's the same idea. Yeah. And there'll be lots of time for everybody who wants a fish break to participate. I just... |
| 03:06:43.09 | Charlie Francis | That's all right. |
| 03:06:48.56 | Herb Weiner | Don't get rattled, folks. Don't get rattled. |
| 03:06:50.90 | Charlie Francis | Thank you. |
| 03:06:50.97 | Linda Pfeifer | to sing. Yeah. you Thank you. |
| 03:06:55.16 | Herb Weiner | I just want to be as far, the earlier we do this, I know two things will take place. The earlier we do it, the more information we'll gather, and it'll be a lot cheaper. Yeah. |
| 03:07:06.78 | Linda Pfeifer | Mm-hmm. |
| 03:07:07.25 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. I think this has to be a task force. |
| 03:07:10.66 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 03:07:10.90 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Because of our city ordinance. No. Right. |
| 03:07:14.41 | Herb Weiner | No. Just try with me. I really don't care. I don't either, but I just... |
| 03:07:17.47 | Carolyn Ford | I don't either, but I just throw that in. It's simantics to me. |
| 03:07:20.27 | Herb Weiner | It's semantics to me. I just want to be able to go forward with this group and see how they click. |
| 03:07:22.00 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, I have no problem with that. |
| 03:07:27.73 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Okay. Thank you. |
| 03:07:29.60 | Mike Kelly | you |
| 03:07:29.67 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:07:29.85 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:07:30.16 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 03:07:30.54 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:07:30.69 | Linda Pfeifer | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:07:32.87 | Herb Weiner | All right, with that, any other information on, yes, I know you have something to say. |
| 03:07:36.42 | Linda Pfeifer | I wish. Go ahead, Councilman. |
| 03:07:38.91 | Herb Weiner | Go ahead, Council Member Fyfer. |
| 03:07:41.04 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you, Mayor Weiner. Just another reminder to all that we've got the HECC community workshop coming up on February 26th from 10 to noon at City Hall on Saturday. |
| 03:07:42.34 | Carolyn Ford | Mm-hmm. |
| 03:07:42.54 | Nancy Osborne | All right. |
| 03:07:56.65 | Linda Pfeifer | you |
| 03:07:56.70 | Linda Pfeifer | Okay. |
| 03:07:57.37 | Linda Pfeifer | That's a flyer. We got that. Yeah. Yes. February 26th from 10 to noon, City Hall. Pass the word. Get the word out. Staff has just sent the HEC committee some outreach strategies that they're doing, but I just wanted to make the announcement again. |
| 03:07:58.10 | Linda Pfeifer | That's a flyer. We got that. Yeah. Thank you. |
| 03:08:00.99 | Herb Weiner | . |
| 03:08:05.00 | Nancy Osborne | Yeah. |
| 03:08:05.07 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:08:05.25 | Nancy Osborne | WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO |
| 03:08:05.44 | Herb Weiner | THE FAMILY. |
| 03:08:05.51 | Nancy Osborne | Mmm. |
| 03:08:10.27 | Nancy Osborne | Um, |
| 03:08:22.37 | Mike Kelly | Is that going to be a Brown Act meeting that's going to be noticed? Mary? Mary? Okay. |
| 03:08:27.12 | Herb Weiner | Mary. |
| 03:08:27.53 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:08:27.77 | Herb Weiner | Yes. |
| 03:08:28.32 | Carolyn Ford | So |
| 03:08:28.54 | Herb Weiner | with. Okay. |
| 03:08:29.56 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:08:29.57 | Carolyn Ford | Okay. |
| 03:08:31.02 | Mike Kelly | It's going to be. |
| 03:08:31.75 | Carolyn Ford | Is it going to be a city council meeting? |
| 03:08:34.09 | Mike Kelly | No, no. OK. But it's all with no response. OK. |
| 03:08:34.11 | Linda Pfeifer | No. |
| 03:08:34.31 | Herb Weiner | No. |
| 03:08:37.33 | Linda Pfeifer | Okay. |
| 03:08:38.18 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. Where is it going to be? |
| 03:08:40.96 | Linda Pfeifer | City Hall. |
| 03:08:42.16 | Mike Kelly | Yes. Thank you. |
| 03:08:42.65 | Herb Weiner | Right here in River City. |
| 03:08:44.73 | Linda Pfeifer | City Hall. |
| 03:08:46.40 | Herb Weiner | The way it's raining out there, we might call this River City. |
| 03:08:50.18 | Linda Pfeifer | Let's see. |
| 03:08:53.06 | Herb Weiner | Yes, please. Is it here? Oh, did you hear it? |
| 03:08:57.16 | Linda Pfeifer | Yeah, Saturday, February 26th, 10 a.m., City Hall, right here. |
| 03:09:02.71 | Mike Kelly | Can I make a suggestion that we configure that meeting all down here. So City Council maybe sits over on this side, and the committee sits in the front here at a square table or something. |
| 03:09:14.16 | Linda Pfeifer | Mm-hmm. |
| 03:09:14.17 | Mike Kelly | . Thank you. Okay, good. |
| 03:09:15.56 | Linda Pfeifer | Just send us an email. |
| 03:09:18.75 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Any other reports at this time? Thank you. Okay, with that, Move adjourned. |
| 03:09:29.63 | Linda Pfeifer | I have a future agenda item. |
| 03:09:29.65 | Herb Weiner | I have a good one. Oh. |
| 03:09:32.03 | Linda Pfeifer | Leaded sidewalks, I've mentioned this before, but for safety, I commute through Petaluma. They have these wonderful leaded sidewalks. |
| 03:09:32.04 | Linda Pfeifer | No. |
| 03:09:38.91 | Herb Weiner | these wonderful bodies in the sidewalks. They have that one in downtown, and it's been like that for years, and it is very effective, also very expensive. |
| 03:09:47.48 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:09:47.72 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. But you're right, there is... |
| 03:09:50.91 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:09:50.93 | Mike Kelly | Why didn't we want one? |
| 03:09:51.60 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Why did sidewalks have? Well, ask the |
| 03:09:53.34 | Linda Pfeifer | Yeah. |
| 03:09:53.36 | Herb Weiner | Well, as the pedestrian... Not sideways. Oh. Lady crosswalks. |
| 03:09:55.03 | Linda Pfeifer | I love you. |
| 03:09:56.56 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:09:56.58 | Linda Pfeifer | Oh. |
| 03:09:57.47 | Carolyn Ford | Bye. |
| 03:09:57.59 | Alfred Nucifora | Bye. |
| 03:09:58.33 | Linda Pfeifer | They're like these little lights in front of us here. When the pedestrian walks past a sensor, it lights the whole little way. It's very pretty. It's nice, and it's very safe. You know anything about lights, I want? |
| 03:10:00.56 | Herb Weiner | I can't believe that very much. Thank you. |
| 03:10:06.79 | Herb Weiner | Well. No. |
| 03:10:12.17 | Mike Kelly | No, it's very safe. because, |
| 03:10:14.21 | Herb Weiner | Yes. Thank you. |
| 03:10:15.60 | Mike Kelly | Can we have him apply for two seconds? |
| 03:10:15.67 | Herb Weiner | when I... |
| 03:10:16.05 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:10:18.03 | Herb Weiner | You want to enlighten us? |
| 03:10:19.63 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:10:19.78 | Herb Weiner | Bye. |
| 03:10:19.85 | Unknown | . |
| 03:10:20.76 | Jonathon Goldman | I certainly would be happy to prepare some kind of presentation on it and bring it to the public If you want the two-second version, not to discourage you from asking me to do that, they are expensive and they require maintenance that we don't currently provide. And one of the issues that I think there's still kind of case law to be developed on is if you establish that standard of care and then fail to maintain it. If, for example, it wasn't working and a pedestrian crossed and got injured, my guess is that there's a, you know, a little bit different level of potential liability than if it wasn't there in the first place. But I'm happy to bring that. |
| 03:11:00.92 | Nancy Osborne | Thank you. Thank you. The roster. |
| 03:11:13.72 | Mike Kelly | Okay. San Francisco has fiber optics along the waterfront. I don't know if that's more or less expensive, but. Thank you. |
| 03:11:21.17 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. along the same principle. |
| 03:11:23.32 | Mike Kelly | Yeah, but I think he's right about the liability big time. Thank you. |
| 03:11:27.35 | Linda Pfeifer | Okay. |
| 03:11:27.43 | Herb Weiner | Okay. That's just about it. |
| 03:11:27.59 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:11:29.97 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Carolyn Ford, Linda Pfeiffer, Mary Wagner. I know it's a day late, but happy Valentine's Day. And all the ladies out there. And with that, it's adjourned. |
| 03:11:30.84 | Mike Kelly | Yes, I remember your journey. |
| 03:11:41.95 | Carolyn Ford | Good job, Herb. We got done at 10.15. That's great. |
| 03:11:46.08 | Mike Kelly | That's great. NPR reported that Valentine's Day started with the Romans and they killed animals. |
| 03:11:47.14 | Linda Pfeifer | . |
Alfred Nucifora — Neutral: Requested help with a vehicle parked for years on Cable Roadway, causing safety, access, and liability issues. Asked for ticketing, a no-parking sign, and staff action to resolve the problem. ▶ 📄
Michael Racks — Neutral: Requested that staff schedule a presentation by the Richardson's Bay Maritime Association about a maritime museum project at the Bay Model property owned by the Veterans Administration. ▶ 📄
Chuck Donald — Neutral: Discussed being a victim of identity theft and the police department's inability to investigate. Requested a policy be adopted and announced clarifying that the police will not investigate such cases. ▶ 📄