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| 00:00:00.03 | Herb Weiner | Good evening. Welcome to the April 18, 2011 meeting. Debbie, would you make a roll call, please? |
| 00:00:11.69 | Unknown | Council member Pfeiffer. |
| 00:00:13.33 | Reza Najafi | HERE. |
| 00:00:14.04 | Unknown | Vice Mayor Kelly. |
| 00:00:15.32 | Herb Weiner | Bye. |
| 00:00:16.21 | Unknown | Mayor Weiner. |
| 00:00:17.34 | Herb Weiner | Present. Okay, at this time here, I have the pledge. Bill Patterson, you want to lead us in the pledge, please? |
| 00:00:28.14 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Okay? We'll do it anyway. |
| 00:00:30.46 | Herb Weiner | you Okay, we'll do it anyway. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. |
| 00:00:34.56 | Carolyn Ford | I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. |
| 00:00:39.97 | Jeremy Graves | and to the republic for which it stands Thank you. |
| 00:00:43.03 | Reza Najafi | one nation, |
| 00:00:43.96 | Jeremy Graves | Thank you. |
| 00:00:45.66 | Reza Najafi | in the business. with liberty. |
| 00:00:47.69 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:00:47.87 | Reza Najafi | Thank you. |
| 00:00:50.28 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Thank you. There you go. Make a note that Councilmember Jonathan Leon has arrived on time. haven't started yet, so you're on time. This time here, we didn't have anything to talk about closed session, so there'll be no comment on that. I'd like to move on approval of the agenda. And I believe we have someone in the audience that wants to speak on that item. Agenda item. And that would be, I've got down Leslie Rose. Leslie? |
| 00:01:36.64 | Herb Weiner | Oh, okay. Then I get home. Why did I mark that? That's a good way to start. |
| 00:01:39.51 | John Trouth | Thank you. |
| 00:01:39.97 | Carolyn Ford | Okay. |
| 00:01:42.94 | Herb Weiner | Okay. At this time here, then, I'd like to move for approval of the agenda. All in favor. |
| 00:01:51.66 | Jonathan Leone | Aye. So moved, but. |
| 00:01:53.40 | Herb Weiner | Still learning. At this time here, any comment from the public on items that are not on the agenda? |
| 00:01:57.16 | Jonathan Leone | Good phone. |
| 00:01:58.04 | Carolyn Ford | Yes. |
| 00:01:58.68 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah. |
| 00:01:58.97 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah. |
| 00:01:59.51 | Jonathan Leone | you |
| 00:02:10.25 | Herb Weiner | And well, let's see. of its need. Okay. All right. I'll call him in the order. |
| 00:02:24.65 | Carolyn Ford | I'm going to go. |
| 00:02:26.20 | Herb Weiner | from the great state of California, huh? Yeah. And formal in New York. That was your first mistake. |
| 00:02:28.58 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah. |
| 00:02:31.03 | Jeffrey Cole | the the the Thank you. That was your first mistake. Mr. Mayor, council members, my name is Jeffrey Cole. I live at 180 Spencer Avenue, two houses up from the intersection of Booker and Spencer where the mirror is mounted. My issue is simple but very, very serious. It's about the cars and vans speeding up Spencer Avenue. The only way I can get out of my driveway, which is a blind driveway, is to back up, listen, and pray, and go out there. And in many cases, there have been near misses. My wife has never pulled out of that driveway. She has to park all the way down on Spencer and log her packages up and down. And we've lived there now for four years. Anytime I have a guest or workers, sometimes they insist I go out into the street to look at the traffic, which, by the way, itself is a risky maneuver. I want to state for the record, and I want this to be on the record, that there's going to be a serious accident here. So what is the solution? The solution is not occasional police presence, not speed limits, not speed meters. It's a stop sign at the intersection of Booker and Spencer, where that mirror is mounted. And it's not just for the houses around that bend that can't see the cause. is for all the residents that live on prospect and CloudView going up to 101. Down Booker. Yes, there's a mirror there. but that mirror is sometimes fogged over. and sometimes it's rained over and they can't see. What's the downside? of a stop sign. Well, one, it's going to take time and effort of the city council and the city. It's implemented. But as Amy Belzer said at the tribute two weeks ago, maintaining the status quo is just not acceptable at times. This city council deals with a lot of major issues, bike lanes on bridgeway, low income mandates for housing, developments, all for the good of Sausalito. What is Sorcelletto and who is Sorcelletto? It's us. the residents. and our quality of life and our safety It has to be of paramount importance. Is there any other downsides? Yeah, I guess there is. Drivers going up to 101 will get there four or five seconds later. Thank you. |
| 00:05:21.62 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:05:21.63 | Jeffrey Cole | Thank you. |
| 00:05:21.65 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:05:21.94 | Jeffrey Cole | What's the upside? The upside is prevention of a serious accident that is just bound and waiting to happen. Thank you for your attention. |
| 00:05:21.97 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:05:32.86 | Herb Weiner | Thank you very much. |
| 00:05:37.21 | Herb Weiner | The next one we have on there is Bunny Zaruba. |
| 00:05:50.83 | Bunny Zaruba | Good evening, Mayor and Council members. My name is Bunny Saruba. I've been a resident of Sausalito for 35 years. |
| 00:05:53.00 | Leslie Rose | members. |
| 00:05:59.11 | Bunny Zaruba | I've lived at 19 Booker for 25 years, and I am coming to you to implore you to put in a stop sign on both sides of the Booker-Spencer intersection. the traffic coming down that hill on Spencer that goes up Booker. does not slow down. In fact, they speed up. I can't tell you how many times I've heard collisions near collision screeching of brakes I've lost a cherished pet to this traffic And it's just... unbearable It is so hard to get out of the driveway because cars are coming. Up Booker. because Off-street parking is allowed on Booker on the east side of the street. It becomes a one-lane road. So, I think I'd also like to say that I'm coming here tonight with the support of many of my neighbors who couldn't be here tonight. Mark Grace, who lives next door to me at 145 Spencer, He has written to the city about this. on situation he has emailed he has telephone he has not received a response and as he says he would be fired for this inaction If, if. He had your job. So, I am asking you, I've got Suzanne Tucker. Shelby Van Meter Julie and Steve Schroeder, who live across the street from me on Booker. And, Ron and Kathy Catherine Page. So all these people, everybody supports a stop sign. on at that intersection. a stop sign on the downward. Spencer and also coming up the hill When I come to the stop sign at the intersection, I can't see the traffic to my right. I have to inch out. I use the mirror. but it's still difficult. Sometimes it's fogged over, just as Jeff said. And it's just, it's a deplorable situation. I ask you tonight to put in the stop signs, two stop signs, and to protect the residents Because if you don't, you are just putting us in danger. Thank you very much. |
| 00:08:34.82 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. The next one I have is Susan Rogier. |
| 00:08:44.32 | Susan Rogier | Mr. Mayor. City Council members, I live at 45 Cloudview Road, and for over 40 years I have devised a way, if the mirror is fogged over at Booker and Spencer, I go up the wrong way the, a downhill traffic side. and look in my side view mirror to make sure there's nothing coming up. So I have done this in a white-knuckled way for a long time, and I decided I'd finally come and speak about it. And I do have a list of 14 people on CloudView, Booker, and CloudView Circle who, I don't know if you want the list, but who are also willing to sign up for this. Who would I give this to? |
| 00:09:24.31 | Herb Weiner | Who would I give this to? you Just give it right over there to Adam. All right. Good. That's all I have to say. The guy that's smiling at you right now. |
| 00:09:27.17 | Susan Rogier | All right. Good. That's what I have to say. |
| 00:09:29.97 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 00:09:35.49 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Maybe that's why he's smiling. |
| 00:09:36.25 | Carolyn Ford | I'm sorry. |
| 00:09:36.97 | Reza Najafi | Oh. |
| 00:09:37.43 | Carolyn Ford | Maybe that's why he's smiling. |
| 00:09:43.59 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Next we have is Phillip Snead. |
| 00:09:52.31 | Philip Snead | So my name is Philip Snead and I live with my family at 172 Spencer Avenue since 2004. And I'm very proud to say that we are a growing demographic in Sausalito and that is young families. I have a daughter who is, will be two in June. And I have a son who just turned three. in March. And, um, There are a number of new families all up and down Spencer. When I made one of my numerous complaints to the police department, one of the responses that I got back was, there's only so much we can do because there aren't any major incidences that we've had today. I think if you ask around, this is a very emotional issue for all the residents, as you can see. And in fact, that's not entirely true, that we have had instances. When I moved in in 2004, a gentleman said that he had the flu and that he pulled over on the downward slope on the opposite lane of the road and his car proceeded to fall over the embankment and slide down between our two homes. Somehow, just parking there, the gentleman managed to break the managed to break the telephone pole. so when i looked at it i said well That seems a lot more than just pulling over and parking by the side of the road. Clearly, something else had happened the next year. a Porsche Cayenne going up the hill actually crashed. And I don't know the number. I don't know the numbers of the homes, but it's just at the bend just above my house, and it crashed significantly between two homes and had to be pulled out Um, And we are just lucky that it didn't go into one of the homes. And I think overall, and Jeff, my neighbor, eloquently put it, let's not wait for an incident. There's no reason why we have to be back here talking about something exceedingly more significant like someone being hit by a car. There's a slight belligerence that takes place when you ask people to slow down going up the road. I, in fact, have pulled people over. I've come off the highway. I've clocked them with my car, and I've pulled them over at the bottom of the street. Most people say the same thing. I'm sorry. I understand. I was in a rush. Okay? We all know that that's not an excuse. Lastly, I think... we have to take a look at So we have to take a look at protecting our families because we want more young families in Sausalito. It brings in revenue. It brings in growth. It brings in jobs. Um, And then another thing we have to consider is the structural constraints. So my carport, I put a new roof on about a year and a half ago. And the carport has pulled away. from the house. Yesterday my wife said to me, was that an earthquake? I said, no, that was a truck going down. So there's... Is that my... |
| 00:12:56.30 | Herb Weiner | Is that my time limit? You have a couple seconds, go ahead. |
| 00:12:59.35 | Philip Snead | And the point of the matter is, that They come down so fast now and the vehicles are a lot larger because they're servicing somewhere up or down the hill. that it's clear that the roads weren't intended for this speed. or this way. So we need to slow down Put in a stop sign. That's my respectful request. Thank you. |
| 00:13:19.72 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you. As you know, we cannot really make any comments up here at this, but this will be looked into and addressed, I guarantee you. Leslie Rose. Are we bringing her up now? |
| 00:13:34.54 | Jonathan Leone | Yes, you see it very good. |
| 00:13:35.92 | Herb Weiner | Yeah, okay. All right, okay. Thank you. All right, thank you very much. Is there any other? comments from the public that's not on this agenda? |
| 00:13:46.03 | Jonathan Leone | you |
| 00:13:46.08 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:13:46.47 | Jonathan Leone | Yes. Adam, do you want to respond just in maybe the Spring Street example and how that process went. Thank you. |
| 00:13:59.88 | Adam Politzer | The first thanks to all the folks that came out and shared their comments and obviously we will look into them and concern hearing that we may have received phone calls or emails and not respond so also take a look at that too. That's very important. There is a process, and sometimes the process does not have the results that people want, and that's traffic studies and various other reviews of impacts on our streets and their speeds. In the case where Council Member Leone just mentioned, we had a very similar request from the neighbors on Spring Street. Um, And they came in and there was probably close to 20 people that lived in the street with list of names on it and said we would like the stop sign or some other traffic calming measures looked into. So the council directed staff to do a uh, study and to get feedback from everyone along Spring Street from the top to the bottom, not just in the section where the majority of the Neighbors had come forward. and the informal survey that we took, we didn't get a whole lot of folks that participated, including the people that came the night of the meeting. And so it was inconclusive in terms of that the majority of the folks wanted that stop sign. We really didn't have enough information to to say that there was 100% or 50% or really any significant number. So during this process as we reach out and we do the studies and we take a look at it, it will be really important that The neighbors that haven't signed the petitions on Spencer Avenue also take a look. With Sausalito, we have a lot of constraints. You heard from the police department when we look at the number of incidents and accidents and events. Yes, absolutely. We want to avoid when there's a real injury or loss of human life or anything at that level and we want to do prevention. But when you look at the amount of traffic that comes through this town, both on foot, bicycle and in cars, you know, the statistics have some weight. And when we look at the various parts of town, the condition of the roads, the speeds that people drive, and then trying to avoid creating congestion or noise outside your window because the person that gets the speed bump or the person that gets the stop sign has an impact and so those folks have to understand those impacts and we have to weigh out The good. for the most. versus the bad for the few. So this process, we'll come back in front of the council. The public works department and the police department will work cooperatively to review the requests that the neighbors are making. And thank you very much for the list of signatures. If there are other lists that folks have that may be different, and I heard that you had one for Booker, get that information to us. We'll contact them. So if we have email addresses, that's obviously the best. But if it's only telephone or physical addresses, that will work too. And then this item will be placed on the agenda and we'll talk about the process. opportunity for you to weigh in again. and what I say in local government, JUST COMING ONCE TO THE MEETING, is the start. seeing it all the way through to the end. is really critically and very important because as other items come forward, you know, your item all of a sudden it was important that day, but it gets lost in all the other things that are equally important. So thank you very much for coming tonight and we look forward to continuing the discussion. |
| 00:17:49.06 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. At this time here, I'd like to move for approval of the April 5th minutes. |
| 00:17:59.07 | Mike Kelly | The movie? |
| 00:18:00.40 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Yeah. |
| 00:18:02.43 | Linda Pfeifer | Excuse me, I do have just an edit. Oh, yeah, April 5th on page 387. Just for clarity, under future agenda items, it says, Fifer requested future agenda to discuss support of Assemblymember Huffman's AB 1103. Just for clarity, I said concerning reforms in affordable housing legislation. |
| 00:18:02.48 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:18:29.12 | Linda Pfeifer | concerning reforms in affordable housing legislation. Thank you. |
| 00:18:33.73 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Okay, with that, approval, all in favor? Aye. Opposed? So moved. Okay, let's move to business items. Oh, consent. Excuse me, where am I tonight? |
| 00:18:40.14 | Linda Pfeifer | Bye. |
| 00:18:47.53 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:18:47.65 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:18:47.69 | Adam Krivacci | Thank you. |
| 00:18:49.78 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah. |
| 00:18:49.96 | Adam Krivacci | No consent. |
| 00:18:50.81 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:18:54.07 | Herb Weiner | Okay, let's move further. request on the consent calendar. |
| 00:19:00.56 | Linda Pfeifer | Mr. Mayor? |
| 00:19:01.19 | Herb Weiner | Yes, council member Pfeiffer. |
| 00:19:03.50 | Linda Pfeifer | I have just two comments on the strategic item 4A, this long range strategic planning session document. |
| 00:19:14.84 | Carolyn Ford | Mm-hmm. |
| 00:19:15.51 | Linda Pfeifer | And these are just, this first one is just a suggestion on page 4A9, regarding the strategic objectives discussions. It refers to the group was invited. It says the city council contributed their individual goals and then the group was invited. Perhaps after the group, we might just put in parentheses participants list on page two. |
| 00:19:21.86 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:19:34.80 | John Trouth | you |
| 00:19:34.85 | Leslie Rose | you |
| 00:19:34.92 | John Trouth | Thank you. |
| 00:19:43.98 | Linda Pfeifer | Just to clarify, I mean, they can ascertain this from the numbers, but, you know, just to clarify who was participating in the strategic objective discussion. And my other comment is where my goals are listed on page 4A15. And, again, this was just for specificity with regards to what my goals were. It says wrap up housing element by years and. Specifically, my goal was to wrap up the housing element by years and focusing on second units and liveaboards. Or through second units and liveaboards. I understand that that strategy may not be shared by the whole council, but that was my personal goal. And the vision underneath for fiscal year, empower staff with model of leadership at every level. My point there was with performance objectives. In other words, to have objectives cascading downward and a focus on basic infrastructure. |
| 00:20:51.18 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:20:51.62 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:20:51.63 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. All right, so noted. Okay. Approval of the consent calendar. |
| 00:20:58.27 | Mike Kelly | We're rolling. |
| 00:20:58.84 | Unknown | Thank you. . |
| 00:21:01.12 | Herb Weiner | Second. Okay, all in favor? Aye. Opposed? |
| 00:21:01.15 | Unknown | Yeah. Thank you. |
| 00:21:03.14 | Unknown | Aye. |
| 00:21:05.42 | Herb Weiner | Okay. next we have on the item that are the Bye. A report on the historic resources evaluation report for Plaza Vina del Mar, and that will be from Heidi Burns. What is that? |
| 00:21:30.04 | Heidi Burns | Good evening, Mayor Weiner, members of the City Council. As I'm waiting for the presentation to pop up, I'll just briefly begin. The purpose of this agenda item is to provide a status update on the Plaza Viña del Mar accessibility improvement project as well as to introduce the city's consultant, Page and Turnbull, and have Page and Turnbull provide presentation on the historic resources evaluation report they prepared for the project. The purpose of the historic evaluation report is to determine what historical significance is related to the plaza, as well as to analyze and determine what impacts the city's accessibility project alternatives would have on that park. So starting back in July of 2010, the city council directed staff to analyze the historic resources associated with the park to determine what its historic significance would be. So with that, staff sent out a request for proposals and hired Paige and Turnbull to prepare this historic resource evaluation report. There were two project alternatives that were directed by the council. The first one would be a landing with a ramp, which was previously reviewed by the Historic Landmarks Board and the Planning Commission, however no action was taken. And then the other project alternative would be the no landing option. Um, Above and beyond an analysis of the Plaza Viña del Mar, the city's consultant also looked into which project alternative would be less impactful to the plaza as it relates to the historic resources associated with the site, as well as to determine what type of CEQA compliance impacts would be associated with this park. |
| 00:23:17.33 | Heidi Burns | So before I hand this over to the city's consultant, I'd like to identify what the next steps regarding this project would be. On January 11th, I basically went through the same steps, but now we've completed one of the tasks, which was the completion of the historic resource evaluation report. So the next step would be for staff to return back to the city council and to provide a legal analysis of both project alternatives regarding Ordinance 1128, as well as how the project alternatives would relate to the settlement agreement. We would also provide construction cost estimates regarding both evaluations or alternatives and seek direction from the council regarding which would be the preferred alternative. After staff receives that direction from the city council, then we would then pursue a public hearing, which would be a joint public hearing reviewed by the Historic Landmarks Board and the Planning Commission. and and depending on the action taken and depending on whether or not the project would be appealed at the Planning Commission and Historic Landmarks Board level, we may return back to the City Council. So I'd like to point out that this agenda item is for informational purposes only and no action is being recommended at this point. And also I'd like to point out that city staff has received a late mail email from the Hodgson family regarding the... of this historic resource evaluation report. So with that, I'd like to introduce the city's consultant, Ruth Todd, who is an architect, a certified planner, and then a U.S. Green Building Council lead, accredited professional, as well as principal at Page and Turnbull. And Ms. Todd has prepared a PowerPoint presentation as well. So while we have Debbie pulling this up, I'll hand this over to Ruth. |
| 00:25:11.07 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:25:12.12 | Ruth Todd | Okay, great. Thank you. Okay, this is the first slide. Heidi or Ms. Burns did a nice introduction, so I don't have to really repeat much except that I'm very happy to be here. It's nice to be, I'm a resident of Marin County, and it's nice to evaluate resources in my backyard. Yes. Sorry, okay. I just wanted to get started by letting you know that Page and Turnbull has a long history of doing this kind of work in California and in the Bay Area and in California. I believe this is going to be timed, isn't it? Sorry. And we have worked on historic resources since 1973 at all scales from repair of materials of deteriorated structures. to the architectural history evaluations of significance. And we've done this most recently in the last decade or so, specifically for EIRs and CEQA purposes. evaluating projects. We're a team, we're a multidisciplinary group of architects, planners, architectural historians, and materials conservators, and we work all under one roof in a collaborative team environment. So there have been about four staff people at Page and Turnbull that have looked specifically at this particular project. I just wanted to review with you what our scope of services was for this project. First of all, we were asked to conduct research, original research on the history of the park, Vino del Mar, and also to review previous documents. The park has been documented previously. and we reviewed that document, updated it with additional research that we had conducted. Um, We reevaluated the park for its historical significance relative to CEQA. So we looked at its, we did a significance evaluation to see if it's a historic resource under CEQA relative to being significant at the local, state, and national levels. And then we were, given two proposed designs that you all, I think, might have seen in the past, and to look at those designs to see if they conform to the Secretary of Interior standards, which are preservation standards that are need to be conformed with in order to have no adverse impact to historic resources for the purposes of CEQA. And then we were asked that if there were tweaks to the proposed designs that would get them closer to conformance with the standards to provide that kind of information as part of our report. And then finally, we were asked to come and speak to you, which is what I'm doing tonight. A brief history of Plaza Viña del Mar. I don't know if you've had a chance to read our report, but we did a lot of research and summarized existing research to... explained the history of the park over time. So you probably all know as well as I do the history of the park, but I just wanted to say that there were sort of several milestones in the evolution of this place in Sausalito. It began sort of as a cesspool next to the railroad tracks. There was a lot of information about complaints about how smelly the property was. And then in 1904, someone convinced the railroad to start filling in the cesspool. so that it could be a buildable space to be a public park, which was dedicated in 1904. It was known as Depot Park. Probably because the quality of the landfill wasn't that great for plant materials, it didn't necessarily thrive until an energetic mayor named Jacques Thomas sort of adopted that piece of land as something that would become his legacy in terms of really lobbying for and promoting that piece of land as something that could become a much more beautiful park for the city. And then around the same time, the conclusion of the Panama Pacific International Exposition coincided with the fact that a prominent Sausalito resident named William Faville, a very successful architect. He had also been on the board of directors of the PPIE, the Panama Pacific International Exposition. And when they were dismantling the exposition, which you probably all know happened all along what's currently the marina area in San Francisco, there were, it was a temporary exposition, and there were a lot of objects that were going to be demolished or attempted to be sold or salvaged. And William Faville, I think purchased from the exposition committee several objects from PPIE and donated them to the park. So the park started becoming a little bit more designed, a little bit more attractive as a result of Mr. Faveel's donation. And the park evolved and the park evolved. The elephants, which were part of the PPIE, were Some changes happen to these objects over time. but their original their original spatial relationships to each other, although they've been altered over time, have been retained to the present day. And then the other sort of significant activity that happened at Plaza Vigna del Mar happened as is typical in municipal parks after World War I, the war memorial was dedicated and the war memorial statues or statue was dedicated and also put on the landing between the elephants. That was probably the most significant event that's happened. These are the series of events that make the park a significant event. Um... explains its significance relative to events. After 1936, nothing particularly eventful happened in the park. Whoops, keep pushing the wrong button, sorry. These are two views of the park sort of at its heyday when it was freshly landscaped, freshly installed with the objects from the PPIE. It has, you can see the fantastic Canary Island palm trees and the landing, the elephants, the elephants, the animals, that originally had Um, flagpoles coming out of their tops. Those flagpoles were later removed and the candelabra were installed. And then you can see the rock walls and the triangular shape of the park and its relationship to the vehicular pedestrian circulation around the park. Um. People have been paying attention to Plaza Viña del Mar and its history for a while, for 20 or 30 years. And as early as 1981, the park was recognized as a historic resource, and a resource that was eligible for listing in the National Register as a contributor to a National Register district. Your downtown historic district, while is eligible, has never actually been listed. But the fact that it was determined in 1981 to be a historic resource automatically included it for listing in the California Register as a contributor to a potential historic district. And I think it was sometime in the 1980s that also became a California point of historical interest. And then currently it's located within the downtown Historic Overlay Zoning District, which means that the Historic Landmarks Board has purview over changes to the park. So we inherited these previous evaluations and we updated and conducted our own independent evaluation to determine if these, you know, 20 or 30 year old findings were still relevant today. It could be that changes have occurred over time and preservation standards have certainly changed since the early 80s. So we did our own independent evaluation for to determine if the park still retains enough significance and integrity to be qualified as a historic resource. And we've concluded that yes, it is still eligible as a contributor to a potentially eligible National Register Historic District. We determined that the park was not individually eligible, but that it does contribute as a contribute to a potential district. And then we found that it is individually eligible for the California Register under two of the for criteria. It qualifies, it has historical significance because it has significance under criterion one for events. It has objects that reflect the legacy of the Panama Pacific International Exhibition and also as a project that reflects the legacy of the Panama Pacific of the early development trends of municipal parks and small Bay Area towns in California. And that is also significant under criterion 2 for its association with Mayor Jacques Thomas. We feel that this is the one place in Sausalito that best represents his contribution to the city. We've also concluded that based on your four criteria for local listing, that the Plaza of Viña del Mar is individually eligible as a historic – a local historic resource. We have determined that the period of significance, the time period that best reflects the significance of the park is from 1904 to 1936. 1904, when the land was first deeded to the city and it actually became a park, until William Faveal and the PPI, William Faveal had the last sort of design intervention into the park. |
| 00:36:28.43 | Ruth Todd | We have gone through and once you've determined that a historic resource has significance, it's not everything involved with that historic resource that is significant, so we go through and evaluate those features that help to convey the significance of the resource. And these are called character defining features. So I've got two slides to discuss with you with some images of what we have determined the character-defining features of the park to be. First of all, its location in downtown Sausalito with access to the waterfront and transportation is a key character defining feature. The triangular shape. and its relationship to circulation around the triangular parcel is a character-defining feature. The central fountain, which is one of two fountains in a certain portion of the PPIE, one of which was located here, is certainly a character-defining feature of the park. as well as the rock wall that surrounds the triangular piece of land. This rock wall was installed very early in its history in 1912. The elephant sculptures along with the central fountain were remnants of the PPIE and are certainly character defining features of the park, as well as the drinking fountain that was installed on top of a rock wall to commemorate Mayor Thomas's contributions when he died in 1912. Other character defining features are the mature Canary Island date palms, which were one of the first landscape features planted into the park. The War Memorial statue that was originally installed on the landing between the elephants and was later moved in 1976 to the corner of the park. The pair of flagpoles are character-defining features. They are likely not the original flagpoles that used to be part of the elephants, but they are part of the composition of the elephant flagpole fountain design composition. The open lawn surrounded by the low plantings, this was always sort of an original intention of the park when it was deeded, that it would have a simple landscape and be primarily a lawn planted landscape. And then I mentioned another character-defining feature is the spatial relationship that the elephants have to the landing, to the sidewalk, and to the fountain. These were thoughtfully designed and located by William Faville. And so while we don't really consider the park a designed landscape. These are elements that were designed for the park and their relationships. You wouldn't want to pick up the elephants and move them somewhere else and destroy their relationship with the fountain behind them. So non-contributing features, these are features that could be altered without really impacting the historical significance of the park. You could make changes to these features and feel confident that you wouldn't have to hire people like us to come back and say, you know, you've ruined your historic resource. And they include site furnishings that were installed after the period of significance, the electrical box and sort of infrastructure, elements that don't contribute to the historic character of the park. The landing is really sort of an important non-contributing feature because it's been so heavily altered. It is not the original landing. The original landing was changed prior to the 1970s. The proportions of that landing are different. The existing landing has different proportions from the original landing. and the materials are different from what the original design intent was. So while we think that there is a spatial relationship, between the landing and the fountains and the elephants, this particular landing Um, is not a character defining feature because it doesn't have, it's not original and it doesn't have integrity. within the period of significance. There had been metal railings installed in the 1970s, and these railings, are not contributing features to the historical significance. And then the triangular extension had been improved in the 70s and is not part of the original design intent of the park. And then this is the three other images of non-contributing features include the asphalt walkway at the fountain apron. Typically that original fountain was sort of surrounded by a bed of grass, and so connections to it are not necessarily part of that original historic character. That's a similar approach to explaining why the asphalt walkway along El Portal by the rock wall is not an original feature. changes could be made to it. and it doesn't contribute to historical significance. And then you've got some brick paving and some other, you know, materials in the park. that were not installed during the period of significance. So, typically when you have a proposed project that affects or that might have some sort of impact to a historic resource, the Secretary of the Interior standards are referenced to see if any of these standards are, if the proposed project meets these standards. There are typically ten standards, and the ones that become a little bit more complex when you're introducing new changes to historic resources are typically standard number two and standard number nine. And standard number nine, really addresses new changes, alterations, additions, and they just need to make sure that they don't alter the original sort of character-defining features of the resource in such a way that it can't still convey its significance. And then there's discussion in the Standard 9 about how you mix old and new, and you want to make sure that someone can understand what's original, what's historic, versus what's been added over time. And sometimes people do it in a way that's, you know, obvious and sometimes it's more subtle. So we were asked to evaluate two projects. The two projects had One alternative. Well, two projects relative to providing ADA access to the fountains. There were also some other ADA improvements to the park that we evaluated, and we felt that the general improvements to the park to provide access were not an issue and were conformed to the standards so long as the 1912 fountain dedicated to Mayor Thomas is not altered or demolished in that scheme. We feel that the general park-wide improvements conform to the Secretary of Interior standards. And then we evaluated project alternative number one. This is the landing with the ramp. And our findings was that it typically, it met all of the standards except for standard number nine. And in terms of standard number nine, it was not particularly appropriate easy to conform. um, in that it made, especially compared to the other alternative, it introduced a ramp and required railings in a location that altered the spatial relationship of the elephants to a planted landscape. Behind, it altered the approach to the fountain from the landing. And while it conforms with most of the standards, it doesn't conform nicely to standard number nine. Project Alternative No. 2, the no landing approach, substantially conforms to Standard No. 9 because of the fact that it protects the spatial relationships of the elephants, the fountain, the landing, the access to the fountain from the landing. |
| 00:45:47.72 | Ruth Todd | And we felt that if you made a few small changes to the second alternative, that it could be made to definitely conform to standard number nine. And that was the... The proposal, the alternative number two proposed in order to get continuous ADA access around the perimeter of the fountain, which is something that you definitely would want to do in making the park accessible, that we have suggested that the width of that new extension around, new pathway around the fountain be made to be as minimum as possible so that it doesn't negatively impact or draw too much attention away from the original fabric. of the fountain. And so changing the material from what was proposed as decomposed granite to concrete would allow you to use the pathway of the existing flat area of the fountain as part of the pathway system as opposed to introducing a full width path of decomposed And as I mentioned earlier, we have suggested that if the Mayor Thomas Fountain, Memorial Fountain is retained, that the other park-wide improvements would conform. |
| 00:47:17.19 | Ruth Todd | So I'm happy to answer any questions if you have them. Is this the time to ask questions? |
| 00:47:24.85 | Herb Weiner | Any questions from the Council? Thank you. Okay, that's a moment. Faijha. |
| 00:47:31.47 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you, Ruth, for a really interesting presentation. I also received Mr. Hutchinson's email perhaps a variation of it. And I was wondering, he raises very, I think, significant points. And I was wondering if you had had a chance to respond to and share with the rest of the council, you know, the issues he raises and, And your responses and its impact on the validity of eligibility for Vigna Del Mar as for the national registry. |
| 00:48:10.41 | Ruth Todd | Okay. Well, I got this when I got here to the meeting, so I've just read over it, and my initial response is that there's nothing in this email that would change our findings, and there's a significant amount of that was sent to the the email raises some points, but they don't really have to do with the significance of the park. |
| 00:48:40.99 | Linda Pfeifer | So with respect to the Bosque palm trees that he refers to and the individual who planted them, I believe in 1909, |
| 00:48:49.53 | Ruth Todd | you Thank you. |
| 00:48:56.08 | Ruth Todd | Right. |
| 00:48:56.40 | Linda Pfeifer | Um, |
| 00:48:57.02 | Ruth Todd | Thank you. That says the report fails to recognize that they're the oldest of the park's significant features, and I believe we have mentioned that in our report. that the palm trees are some of the oldest original features that they were planted in relationship to the fountain. but the...and we have recognize them as character-defining features. |
| 00:49:21.90 | Linda Pfeifer | And as Bosky planted by Edward Bosky. |
| 00:49:26.20 | Ruth Todd | Right. So I don't think that our report mentioned him by name. |
| 00:49:27.06 | Linda Pfeifer | who was a founding member. |
| 00:49:32.16 | Ruth Todd | But, um, We, that the park is significant for persons because of Mayor Thomas and we would be doubtful that the park is significant because of Mr. Boski. |
| 00:49:54.28 | Linda Pfeifer | you |
| 00:49:54.62 | Carolyn Ford | you |
| 00:49:54.70 | Ruth Todd | So, |
| 00:49:55.97 | Linda Pfeifer | With respect to the two proposals and getting back the reason I'm raising the palm trees, which were, I believe, planted in 1909. |
| 00:50:08.64 | Reza Najafi | Mm-hmm. |
| 00:50:09.03 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. Um, The lawsuit settlement said that one of the options was to have a walkway to the fountain. They don't specify around the fountain. So I raise this question because of the relevance to perhaps being closer to meeting Standard 9. |
| 00:50:35.41 | Carolyn Ford | Mm-hmm. |
| 00:50:35.84 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. because I'm also concerned with the potential impact to the health of the population. garden and the palm trees specifically with respect to pouring concrete around the fountain. you |
| 00:50:55.97 | Susan Rogier | Bye. |
| 00:50:56.03 | Linda Pfeifer | So that was one comment or question and the other question was do we have an arborist report that looks at potential impact on such concrete surrounding or nearly encapsulating the base of these historic palm trees? |
| 00:51:17.10 | Carolyn Ford | Mm-hmm. |
| 00:51:21.81 | Ruth Todd | Before I think you can answer the question about the arborist report, I do know something about palm trees, but I'll keep my mouth shut on that. One of the things, though, that we – did mention Pardon? No. That was a good one. And one of the things that we did mention, though, was that if you reduce the new paving around, that you can probably avoid the palm tree. And the project, the design drawings are not necessarily to scale, so that would need to be looked at closely. But that was another reason why we really felt that you needed to make that circular path as narrow as possible. |
| 00:51:37.54 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah. And one of the things that I've been doing |
| 00:51:41.67 | John Trouth | Thank you. |
| 00:51:43.93 | Carolyn Ford | Amen. |
| 00:52:02.89 | Linda Pfeifer | because it would impact, potentially, have a negative impact on the health of the palm trees. |
| 00:52:08.07 | Ruth Todd | Oh, not because of the health of the palm tree, but because of the, if you see this on alternative number two, you can see, I don't know if there's a light. |
| 00:52:16.28 | Jonathan Leone | Oh, there is. |
| 00:52:16.87 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 00:52:17.23 | Ruth Todd | Um |
| 00:52:17.24 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. Thank you. Just hold it down with a little bit. |
| 00:52:20.70 | Ruth Todd | Okay. |
| 00:52:20.79 | Adam Politzer | Okay. |
| 00:52:24.35 | Ruth Todd | Okay. |
| 00:52:24.55 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:52:25.87 | Ruth Todd | it. Anyway, you can see where the new path is notched out to avoid the palm trees. And so we felt that if you could avoid notching, it's more of a design, it's more of a physical design concern than necessarily the health of the palm tree concern. But I'm sure that an arborist could speak better to that. |
| 00:52:48.89 | Linda Pfeifer | And my next question had to do with the lawsuit settlement specifying, you know, that proposition to the fountain and if that was a viable option as opposed to pouring concrete around the |
| 00:53:06.66 | Ruth Todd | I don't, I didn't understand the first portion. |
| 00:53:10.42 | Linda Pfeifer | In other words, this proposal is in response to requirement for ADA access. And in the settlement itself, which we received last year, I know that it specifies a walkway to the fountain. |
| 00:53:18.33 | Ruth Todd | Thank you. |
| 00:53:18.35 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah. |
| 00:53:31.46 | Linda Pfeifer | It doesn't necessarily say around the fountain. And so I guess my question is, Could we have a solution that would take just a simple walkway to the fountain and not go around the fountain, and would that be more in compliance with standard nine criteria? |
| 00:53:51.68 | Jeremy Graves | Well, in terms of the settlement agreement and our compliance with it, I just want to state your name for the record. Jeremy Graves, Community Development Director. I believe Mary may be quickly reviewing that aspect of the settlement agreement. So I think what we've, with Ruth's expertise is on historical significance of the different |
| 00:53:56.20 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:53:56.25 | Jonathan Leone | I'm just going to stay tuned in. |
| 00:54:08.35 | John Trouth | Thank you. |
| 00:54:16.84 | Linda Pfeifer | I'm sorry. |
| 00:54:17.92 | Jeremy Graves | Back to your question then on the historic aspect of it, would just a simple link to the fountain from the landing, how might that, what impact of the historical significance might just a simple link there? Yes. |
| 00:54:36.57 | Linda Pfeifer | In other words, with that solution. |
| 00:54:37.16 | Ruth Todd | with that solution. We believe that would be in conformance with standard nine, yes. |
| 00:54:40.14 | Linda Pfeifer | And would you agree that that might be less invasive, a less invasive option with respect to standard nine? |
| 00:54:50.01 | Ruth Todd | It probably would be, yes, because then you would avoid having to extend the ground plane of the concrete fountain. Um, |
| 00:55:02.08 | Jonathan Leone | existing condition is the already there so part |
| 00:55:05.08 | Ruth Todd | Pardon? |
| 00:55:05.62 | Jonathan Leone | It's an existing condition that's already connected. It's just not accessible. |
| 00:55:10.08 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. That's a comment and Thank you. |
| 00:55:12.80 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:55:12.83 | Linda Pfeifer | I don't know. |
| 00:55:12.90 | Carolyn Ford | And my question was specifically... |
| 00:55:13.32 | Linda Pfeifer | And my question was specifically, just my question was, |
| 00:55:19.28 | Carolyn Ford | My, my, my. |
| 00:55:21.89 | Linda Pfeifer | more with respect to that being an option with respect to Standard 9 and being less invasive and less of an impact to the historic, you know, character of the the park and you answered my question. So I thank you for that. I have another question, but I'll let the rest of the council weigh in. |
| 00:55:35.26 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Well, I don't... the council, any other questions up here? Before I go to the public? Okay, go ahead. I'm timing you. |
| 00:55:46.29 | Linda Pfeifer | Okay, thank you. My other question was with respect to another comment that Mr. Hodgson raised with respect to the way the park was originally designed. He asserts that that the park was permanently closed after its construction and surrounded by fencing, and the current rock wall construction in 1912 surrounded the entire site There was no entrance until 1916. Is that correct? |
| 00:56:17.51 | Ruth Todd | Thank you. |
| 00:56:18.42 | Linda Pfeifer | Um, |
| 00:56:19.15 | Ruth Todd | I don't believe our research, our research doesn't mention anything about the park being closed permanently. I think that our research was that, you know, it was trying to become a park and it wasn't very successful. You know, it was constructed of landfill and waste that you would normally expect, you know, railroad Um, waste to be so that it was a park without a lot of champions until Mayor Thomas came Um, I don't think we've got, we didn't uncover any research that talked specifically about when openings were made to the rock wall |
| 00:57:01.44 | Linda Pfeifer | The reason I raised this as a question with respect to the point that Mr. Hodgson raises is earlier you showed a picture up there that did seem to support what he said was that the picture that you showed did not appear to show an opening. It was one of the historic photographs going across It looked like there was a low hedge and benches going across the entire and the And the reason I raised this as a question was because I was curious as to the historic |
| 00:57:33.99 | Carolyn Ford | primit. |
| 00:57:34.39 | John Trouth | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:57:35.03 | Bunny Zaruba | THE FAMILY. |
| 00:57:35.20 | John Trouth | Bye. |
| 00:57:40.30 | Linda Pfeifer | design of the original park. How it was, was it designed, you know, |
| 00:57:45.92 | Ruth Todd | how it was. |
| 00:57:49.13 | Linda Pfeifer | and that's all. |
| 00:57:50.53 | Ruth Todd | That's all. Yeah. We think that, well, this is in 1904 when the park was deeded and there are no walls around it. And then in 1912, the rock walls were constructed. I actually don't. remember conversations about the openings in the rock walls, but it was not a designed landscape. The only designed features were the PPIE elements and perhaps the location of the war memorial on the landing, but that it was pretty much ad hoc. |
| 00:58:14.37 | John Trouth | It's... |
| 00:58:27.06 | Linda Pfeifer | Um, Yeah, the picture I'm referring to is not this one. It was an earlier one you showed. And it, there's. |
| 00:58:31.68 | Ruth Todd | It was an earlier one. There's. |
| 00:58:35.92 | Linda Pfeifer | Yeah, and I can't tell from this picture. |
| 00:58:37.09 | Herb Weiner | from this picture. |
| 00:58:37.78 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 00:58:40.29 | Linda Pfeifer | It was just a question. |
| 00:58:41.88 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Council member of Leone. |
| 00:58:43.06 | Jonathan Leone | Council member of Leon. To clarify the period of significance is 1904 to 30. |
| 00:58:48.76 | Ruth Todd | 1936. |
| 00:58:50.74 | Jonathan Leone | So the. periods of these two the prior two photos fall within that significance. And given that it was open at one point, We don't know whether it was fully closed or not, but it was So that, as you said, whether the wall was open or closed, or whether it's been through various stages even during that term of historical significance. |
| 00:59:10.99 | Ruth Todd | Yes, it has, and it was certainly open when the PPIE elements, you know, the landing was definitely the invitation. Right, so to make the statement that a great deal. |
| 00:59:13.55 | Jonathan Leone | Right. |
| 00:59:17.23 | Jonathan Leone | So to make the statement that a closed park is part of the, is incorrect. |
| 00:59:22.99 | Ruth Todd | Well, I don't know whether it's open or closed, but I don't think it's relevant to the significance. |
| 00:59:26.02 | Jonathan Leone | No, that is part of its historical significance is that closed park is not correct given the period that you deemed significant. Include both an open park as well as one that had some degree of enclosure. |
| 00:59:28.91 | Ruth Todd | I guess he's |
| 00:59:33.87 | Carolyn Ford | THE FOOD. |
| 00:59:38.27 | Linda Pfeifer | Correct. |
| 00:59:38.73 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:59:38.75 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 00:59:38.80 | Jonathan Leone | Oh. |
| 00:59:38.86 | Linda Pfeifer | Okay. and, Mr. Mayor? Okay. Just questions. I really want to move this. So. |
| 00:59:43.45 | Herb Weiner | Just questions. I really want to move this. I'm getting stumped. |
| 00:59:48.82 | Linda Pfeifer | Okay, I'm fine. |
| 00:59:51.57 | Herb Weiner | Okay. At this time here, Vice Mayor Kelly. |
| 00:59:56.87 | Mike Kelly | In the earlier when you showed the process of how we're going to proceed with this, I just want to be clear. Only one project is going to move forward to landmarks and planning, right? The council will choose one project to move forward. Yes. |
| 01:00:11.01 | Jacques Oman | Yes. |
| 01:00:13.61 | Herb Weiner | All right, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. At this time here, any comment from the public on it? Vicki Nichols? |
| 01:00:21.98 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 01:00:22.79 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Todd. |
| 01:00:25.54 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 01:00:27.01 | Vicki Nichols | Vicki Nichols and I'm speaking as an HOB member, but personally as an HOB member. First of all, I'd like to thank Ruth's presentation, Paige and Turnbull, is an excellent resource for historic evaluations, so we were lucky to get her expertise. And I just looked at Mr. Hodgson's questions. I personally agree with Ruth's evaluation that Mr. Thomas was the most important individual with a direct contribution to Sausalito. It's nice that the other individuals are identified, but I think that her report is spot on in terms of the people involved. But one thing I'd like to say is this really is about not the landing, but the bandstand. And Favel, when he gave this to the city, as a condition of giving the elephants, and this letter is found, I found the original in the Historical Society, with his drawing on the back. Not a very good drawing, but anyway, this was available. This was conditioned that we get the elephants and the fountain that a bandstand be built. The problem is The bandstand was always historic, but in the 70s, before we knew about these things, taking things on and changing them without evaluating them, The three steps were lowered to two steps, and you had a whole different element introduced, which was the bricks. So they're absolutely right in saying that this has been altered past the integrity. So the... of removing that landing now, it's not contributing. So that would make less impact on the park than the than the pathways and everything else that's discussed in the second alternative. But it also brings up a really important point. I believe this was done in a very good civic-minded spirit, that this was cleaned up for the Bicentennial. And a couple of prominent architects got together and said, let's spruce it up. what they thought they were doing by introducing just even the BRICS has reduced the integrity of this. We may not even be in this situation, had this original been left the same. we'd have a whole different project we were looking at. So it's really important that just one little seemingly unimportant aspect has changed it can throw the whole thing off. So my personal preference, even when we were reviewing this in HLB, would be the least impact to the whole park. I know you're considering that and it looks like there might be an alternative here to to not impacting it as much as we may have to. |
| 01:03:00.50 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, Vicky. At this time here, anybody else public comment? I'll bring it back up here. No action was taken, so. |
| 01:03:09.03 | Unknown | Thank you. Mary. |
| 01:03:11.74 | Herb Weiner | I'm... |
| 01:03:12.23 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:03:12.25 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:03:14.21 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:03:17.21 | Adam Krivacci | Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Honorable Counsel, Adam Krivacci, 840 Olima Street. I just wanted to thank you. I've participated in several meetings on the subject and several deliberations, work sessions which were organized to look at alternatives, etc., etc., |
| 01:03:17.26 | Herb Weiner | It is. |
| 01:03:37.12 | Adam Krivacci | and I find it refreshing to find the information available that Page Turnbull brought to bear on this subject. And I believe that we are now prepared to make an intelligent decision and well-informed decision. and we will not have to worry about it, that someone will criticize the validity of the city's decision what to do about this problem. Thank you very much. |
| 01:04:10.77 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, Adam. Anybody else? Would you like to make a comment on that? |
| 01:04:16.44 | Mary Wagner | You can make Sure, the question was asked about the scope of the settlement agreement and its application to the pathways and the parts. the settlement agreement indicates that the city agreed to provide access to the fountain in the park and the upper landing of the steps at the Bridgeway Street entrance, but the plaintiff's expert reviewed the whole plan that was submitted to the council originally with the ramp and the the access around the entire park. while the letter of the agreement might not include that, Certainly the plan and the accessibility that was approved by the plaintiff's expert included that. Any changes to that plan are going to have to go back. to them for consideration and concurrence that it meets the accessibility standards |
| 01:05:00.45 | Herb Weiner | Okay, thank you. Okay, at this time here, since that was just informational, we'll move on to the next item, and that's the... |
| 01:05:09.83 | Jonathan Leone | I think Heidi wants us to give her some directions, right? No. |
| 01:05:13.72 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:05:13.75 | Unknown | No. |
| 01:05:13.95 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:05:13.97 | Unknown | you No drudging. |
| 01:05:15.40 | Herb Weiner | No, I think Heidi can do less direction. |
| 01:05:15.44 | Unknown | I don't know. |
| 01:05:15.82 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 01:05:15.93 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:05:15.94 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 01:05:15.98 | Unknown | I didn't do the rest of it. |
| 01:05:17.14 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 01:05:17.28 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:05:17.46 | Linda Pfeifer | I do have a comment, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. |
| 01:05:20.94 | Herb Weiner | Go ahead. You get 10 seconds. |
| 01:05:23.45 | Linda Pfeifer | My comment is per Mary's statement regarding the actual settlement wording. Still, I would ask that the council consider the wording of the original settlement, which was, you know, to the fountain, and look at that as a third option with minimal impact where we would have just a walkway to the fountain. |
| 01:05:48.44 | Herb Weiner | Okay, thank you. |
| 01:05:49.73 | Mike Kelly | Let me just make one comment. |
| 01:05:51.41 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, Mayor Kelly. |
| 01:05:52.44 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. We should put any question about how this process is completed until such time as we go back for the review to ask for the change from the ramp to the removal. In other words, it's going to be up to the plaintiff in the case to give us approval to put the part back a different way. So let's labor over a little details at this point. |
| 01:06:14.43 | Unknown | you know, a different way. |
| 01:06:15.55 | Carolyn Ford | THE FAMILY. |
| 01:06:15.78 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:06:17.06 | Herb Weiner | Yeah. |
| 01:06:17.40 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:06:17.49 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:06:17.62 | Jonathan Leone | I'm sorry. |
| 01:06:17.70 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:06:17.74 | Reza Najafi | Thank you. |
| 01:06:19.80 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 01:06:20.39 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 01:06:20.41 | Mike Kelly | All right. |
| 01:06:20.42 | Jonathan Leone | I'm sorry. |
| 01:06:20.89 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:06:21.97 | Jonathan Leone | Sorry, I can't really hear very well my ears are all. No problem. You're saying that the plaintiff reviews the final plan. Correct. Is that correct from the settlement? |
| 01:06:22.26 | Mike Kelly | GO HAND. Thank you. |
| 01:06:24.15 | Mary Wagner | No problem. |
| 01:06:25.01 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 01:06:25.15 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:06:27.70 | Mary Wagner | Correct. If it's different than what was previously approved. Yeah. |
| 01:06:31.05 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. |
| 01:06:32.81 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 01:06:32.82 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah. |
| 01:06:32.84 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 01:06:32.96 | Reza Najafi | Thank you. |
| 01:06:33.14 | Herb Weiner | Yeah. Right. |
| 01:06:33.48 | Reza Najafi | Bye. |
| 01:06:33.72 | Mary Wagner | So. |
| 01:06:34.06 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:06:35.24 | Reza Najafi | Okay? |
| 01:06:36.32 | Herb Weiner | All right. Thank you, Ruth Todd. Thank you, Heidi Burns. And thank you, Jeremy Graves, for a very good presentation. Moving on to the next item is a presentation on this |
| 01:06:42.41 | Reza Najafi | Thank you. |
| 01:06:42.92 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 01:06:49.90 | Jonathan Leone | Can I do one thing on this before we move on? Okay. So given Heidi and given the eligible nature of a lot of the stuff with this park, it might be something to include in once we have |
| 01:06:52.10 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 01:07:03.79 | Jonathan Leone | something to roll through the processes to take it off the eligible and put it on the register aspect of it. ask the council consider directing staff to do that uh put it on you jennifer |
| 01:07:15.11 | John Trouth | I'm not. |
| 01:07:17.51 | Jonathan Leone | to make the park eligible for, to complete the eligible application. Absolutely. |
| 01:07:20.93 | Linda Pfeifer | Bye. |
| 01:07:21.00 | Carolyn Ford | All right. |
| 01:07:21.09 | Linda Pfeifer | Absolutely. |
| 01:07:22.25 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. I agree. Good idea. Since you've done the research, you might as well use it and push it all the way through. That's great. |
| 01:07:22.78 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:07:22.79 | Linda Pfeifer | I agree well. Good idea. Yeah. THE END OF |
| 01:07:26.82 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:07:27.16 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 01:07:27.23 | Carolyn Ford | I agree with you, buddy. Okay. |
| 01:07:29.73 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Next we have the presentation on strategic community strategy pursuant to SB 375. And we have Lily |
| 01:07:30.54 | Jonathan Leone | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:07:30.91 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:07:40.73 | Herb Weiner | And Shin Singh. and begin the presentation. |
| 01:07:45.13 | Lily | Good evening, Mr. Mayor, council members. This is. getting loaded. The purpose of this agenda item is to give... Who's getting loaded? |
| 01:07:54.04 | Carolyn Ford | Who's getting loaded? |
| 01:07:55.93 | John Trouth | Bye. |
| 01:07:56.00 | Carolyn Ford | Ha ha ha ha. |
| 01:07:59.60 | Lily | The purpose of this agenda item is to provide information on the community sustainability strategy pursuant to SB 375. |
| 01:08:13.23 | Lily | And SB 375 was adopted in 2008 and focuses on reducing vehicle miles traveled and urban sprawl. Thank you. AB 32 is the nation's first law to limit greenhouse gas emissions, and SB 375 was enacted to more specifically address the transportation and land use components of greenhouse gas emissions. And the responsibility for the implementation of SB 375 is with the Metropolitan Transportation Organizations. There's 18 in California. |
| 01:08:54.44 | Lily | The major goals of SB 375 are to first reduce greenhouse gas emissions from vehicles in the Bay Area by 15% by 2035. Also to house the region's population at all income levels and create complete communities that are both livable and affordable in addition to walkable places with services and amenities, a sustainable transportation system, and an attractive place for business to prosper. |
| 01:09:27.48 | Lily | A main component of SB 375 is the introduction of the Sustainable Communities Strategy, or SCS for short, which will be a new component of each region's Regional Transportation Plan, which is an RTP. The SES must meet greenhouse gas targets, and it says if there's a feasible way to do so. Additionally, under SB 375, the RHNA cycle was extended from five years to eight years. And this is in order to coordinate with every other RTP update cycle. The Bay Area does not have a single metropolitan transportation organization. There's four different agencies that provide planning guidance and funding on various land use and transportation issues. These agencies for the nine counties in the Bay Area are the Association of Bay Area Governments, The Metropolitan Transportation Commission, MTC, the Bay Area Air Quality Management District, and the San Francisco Bay Conservation and Development Commission, which is BCDC. |
| 01:10:27.19 | John Trouth | Thanks. |
| 01:10:37.53 | Lily | The SCS is a new required element of the RTP and will be completed by the Metropolitan Transportation Commission in coordination with A bag. and also with the Air Quality Management District, BCDC, local jurisdictions, and other working groups. The SES integrates transportation investment, housing needs, and land use planning in order to create a 25-year regional plan. The RTP needs to be internally consistent, so it will align with and support the SCS land use patterns. Additionally, the Regional Housing Needs Allocation, or RENA, will need to be consistent with the SCS. The SES also must meet the state's greenhouse gas reduction goals, and it's required to be adopted by 2013. It's important to note that the SCS does not change local authority over land use decisions. |
| 01:11:36.81 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:11:38.75 | Lily | This slide describes the process for preparing the SCS. First, an initial vision scenario was released in early March of this year. A key component of this scenario is a 25-year projection of regional housing needs and a preliminary assessment of housing and employment growth to the local jurisdictional level. The initial scenario was unconstrained, which meant that it didn't take into account potential policy infrastructure or resource limitations that might affect the development potential necessary to support the scenario. The next step will be the development of more realistic scenarios. These scenarios will be constrained and take into account constraints that might limit development potential. The detailed scenarios are expected to be released in July of this year. And Saucelita will have an opportunity to review the scenarios and provide input. Next comes the release of the preferred scenario, which is expected early 2012 or the end of and that will inform or be the basis for the preparation of the SCS. And then also an RTP and ARENA that are consistent with the SCS. |
| 01:13:00.88 | Lily | The RHNA is state mandated and quantifies the need for housing at all income levels within each jurisdiction. And this slide shows the timeframe for the next RHNA cycle. In July of this year, AVAG is expected to adopt a draft arena methodology in September of this year. ABOG will adopt the final RENA methodology. In October of this year, the state will issue a needs determination. January of next year, ABAG will adopt the draft arena in July of next year. The deadline to appeal that arena would be in July of next year. And then in September, ABAG will adopt the final arena. HCD will subsequently adopt the Regional Housing Needs Plan, And then in September 2014, housing amendments will be due. |
| 01:13:58.24 | Lily | The Regional Transportation Plan links land use choices and transportation investments and defines priorities for transportation projects. And this slide shows the timeline for the RTP. In spring of this year, there was a call for transportation projects. In July of this year, there would be a detailed project assessment, and this would be coordinated with the SCS. In winter of this year, the RTP will be released for review. And then in April of 2013, The Metropolitan Transportation Commission will adopt the final RTC and the SCS. |
| 01:14:40.87 | Lily | Moving forward, in July of this year, the detailed scenario is expected to be released. At that time, City South will gather input from the City Council on that scenario and share the input from the City Council with the MPO. This item was for informational purposes only and no action is required this evening. We're available for any questions. Should note that there are a fair amount of questions out there about this process. So I might not be able to answer them for you tonight, but I will take notes and get back to you. Amen. |
| 01:15:17.37 | Carolyn Ford | Bye. |
| 01:15:18.24 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, Lily. Any questions from the council? Okay, Council Member Pfeiffer. |
| 01:15:26.21 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. Lily, I'd like to ask you a question, if nothing else, just for, you know, public edification on this issue. Can you comment on SB 375's teeth with respect to new housing element zoning enforcement? |
| 01:15:45.33 | Lily | And my understanding is that the SB 375, change the time period that cities jurisdictions would have to actually rezone properties that we identified in our housing element. as a city or any other jurisdiction decides that we need to rezone certain properties to accommodate the arena, we are required to do those rezonings within three years of adoption of the housing element. If, in fact, we don't do what we said we were going to do under SB 375, a developer could apply for a permit to build at the density that we said that we would rezone at. |
| 01:16:30.88 | Mary Wagner | Thank you, Lily. Mr. Mayor, can I just add to that a little bit? So as Lily indicated, you know, your SB 375 adds to the provisions of the government code that say what your housing element has to include. |
| 01:16:32.77 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 01:16:32.85 | Lily | Thank you. |
| 01:16:32.88 | Linda Pfeifer | Mr. Mayor Cadell. |
| 01:16:33.54 | Lily | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:16:35.01 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 01:16:35.04 | Lily | So as Lillian, |
| 01:16:44.58 | Mary Wagner | And it says you have to list... your available sites and if your available sites aren't adequate to meet your RENA number then you have to include other sites and rezone them and set a time frame for doing that and as Lily indicated you still have the control over what those sites would be. It's just that if you don't do what you said you were going to do in the time frames that are required, there's other issues that can come up. Similar to what was done through court-ordered enforcement, it's now been made statutory. |
| 01:17:06.77 | Linda Pfeifer | required. |
| 01:17:14.26 | Linda Pfeifer | Exactly, and that's I think a very important |
| 01:17:16.54 | Mary Wagner | The element. |
| 01:17:16.64 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 01:17:17.25 | Mary Wagner | Thank you, Mary. |
| 01:17:17.90 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:17:18.38 | Jonathan Leone | Any other questions? Just to clarify, those are changes that the city proposes for itself. And it's just a failure if you try to fake people out and don't enact them. It provides a mechanism to actually make you go and do that or just get around you not doing it. So it's not to which the court would have taken in previous decades of |
| 01:17:20.56 | Herb Weiner | Councilmember Leon. |
| 01:17:29.35 | Herb Weiner | that they're going to be |
| 01:17:29.41 | John Trouth | Right. |
| 01:17:31.49 | Herb Weiner | Right, to action. |
| 01:17:41.11 | Mike Kelly | It's been a previous deal. Just a couple things. One is the preliminary arena numbers are out for Sausalito for action for the whole county, all jurisdictions. at the moment. |
| 01:17:54.00 | Linda Pfeifer | Are we in comment or? Touch wood. Do you have a question? |
| 01:17:55.05 | Mike Kelly | touch wood. No, I just want to make this comment because the public... It's just information. Are we in comment now? It's information. It's not comment. And our number is 90 units for the next period, which is significantly below our previous allocations. That may not hold because they're still negotiating back and forth, but that's where we are right now. And the second thing is that on May 5th at 530 at 3501 Civic Center Drive, which is the Marin County offices, there will be an SCS ad hoc committee meeting which incorporates all of the communities. And that's a time, it's actually the last time to go and put the information to make public testimony or whatever. |
| 01:17:58.02 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 01:17:58.07 | Ray Gerges | It's fine. |
| 01:17:59.96 | Linda Pfeifer | Are we in comment now? |
| 01:18:00.99 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:18:08.95 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:18:37.88 | Unknown | Oh. or whatever. |
| 01:18:40.39 | Mike Kelly | and |
| 01:18:41.03 | Unknown | before it goes back to MTA for their final work on it. So I just wanted to put those two things on the record. |
| 01:18:49.16 | Herb Weiner | OK. Yes. |
| 01:18:53.30 | Linda Pfeifer | No. |
| 01:18:54.06 | Herb Weiner | Okay. All right. Okay. With that, thank you very much. |
| 01:18:58.92 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. Thank you, Lily. |
| 01:19:01.62 | Herb Weiner | you Good job. Any public comment on this item? Okay, since it was informational, we'll just move on to the next item. And that's the police department's quality. |
| 01:19:13.75 | Linda Pfeifer | I do. |
| 01:19:13.95 | Herb Weiner | quarterly statistics. |
| 01:19:16.13 | Linda Pfeifer | I just had a comment. Very quickly. If I may, Mr. Mayor. |
| 01:19:21.82 | Herb Weiner | Go ahead, I'm counting the seconds. |
| 01:19:23.35 | Linda Pfeifer | Okay, thank you. The reason I raised the SB 375 enforcement of the affordable housing zoning is because sometimes I think that housing elements are presented to the public as, you know, not necessarily happening. And I think what's important is what SB 375 does is it now ensures that, you know, this goes beyond just accommodation. This new legislation enforces what we propose. So I think that's what's important for us to understand with respect to zoning. |
| 01:19:54.40 | Mike Kelly | So I think- |
| 01:19:57.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:19:57.24 | Mike Kelly | with respect to zoning. But only to the extent that a developer shows up and wants to build on a site. |
| 01:19:58.88 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:19:58.98 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 01:19:59.03 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:19:59.31 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 01:19:59.35 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 01:20:02.10 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah, they can make the economic |
| 01:20:03.31 | Linda Pfeifer | Yeah. |
| 01:20:03.33 | Jonathan Leone | Yes. Yes. Yes. It doesn't force any housing to build. No. |
| 01:20:03.53 | Mike Kelly | I'm free. |
| 01:20:04.26 | Linda Pfeifer | Yes. |
| 01:20:04.82 | Mike Kelly | and you |
| 01:20:05.37 | Linda Pfeifer | Yes. |
| 01:20:05.98 | Mike Kelly | Yes. I'm not sure. |
| 01:20:07.75 | Linda Pfeifer | No, but if a developer comes forward and wants to implement, has |
| 01:20:13.40 | Jonathan Leone | which has been proposed. |
| 01:20:14.03 | Herb Weiner | Then you post. |
| 01:20:15.14 | Linda Pfeifer | willing to do that. |
| 01:20:15.55 | Herb Weiner | Bye. |
| 01:20:15.60 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 01:20:15.65 | Herb Weiner | You do, and you enact them. |
| 01:20:15.67 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 01:20:15.72 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah. |
| 01:20:15.87 | Linda Pfeifer | Yeah. |
| 01:20:15.89 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 01:20:16.17 | Linda Pfeifer | I'll do that. It's just a comment. |
| 01:20:19.21 | Herb Weiner | Okay, the next chief Jennifer Tejada with the presentation. |
| 01:20:33.93 | Herb Weiner | Okay, you're on. You don't have the right to bring mine silent at this time. |
| 01:20:39.31 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah. |
| 01:20:39.65 | Unknown | That's a good thing. Well, good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, and Councilmembers. It's a delight to be here on my first opportunity to present to you on behalf of the Police Department. Do we have a PowerPoint? Great. Okay, so I'm going to fake it. |
| 01:20:40.62 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:20:40.69 | Carolyn Ford | Well, I get it. |
| 01:20:41.27 | John Trouth | Good evening. |
| 01:20:56.42 | Unknown | . |
| 01:20:56.59 | Carolyn Ford | I'm sorry. |
| 01:20:59.56 | Unknown | Well, as I think has been the report every quarter, we really don't have any significant spikes in crime or arrests or incidents to report to you. So we have a very stable community. Nothing alarming. Property crimes continue to represent the main focus in terms of our response to incidents. We have We had 19 in this first quarter, but that's, if you compare it to 2010, it's down from 33. So there is a little variance there. No significant spikes in arrests. We had a 25% increase compared to last year, but it's not really that significant. Traffic accidents, which is always a hot topic, we had 23 in this quarter, and only three of those occurred in March, which I would venture to guess might be attributable to the OTS Traffic Safety Grant, the $65,000 grant that we've received, and the officers have been out there enforcing vehicle code violations. We had, let's see, in the first quarter of 2010, we issued 11 citations to cyclists. And in the first quarter of this year, we issued 85. and we issued 33 citations to pedestrians, and I want to give credit to Officer Mike Davis for his leadership on that OTS grant and that enforcement. So I do expect that we will see, we're doing significant education out there. I've seen Officer Sean Smogowski riding up alongside the cyclists, chatting, making sure that they are sticking to the rules of the road. And so there's a lot of education that's going on in addition to the enforcement. Um... Traffic citations for the first quarter, we are down a little bit compared to last year, but that's attributable to two issues. One was that we were without a parking enforcement officer for part of the first quarter. We had Chris, who was sworn in the same day as I was on February 22nd. And then also, of course, we have the new parking system. And so that's created some challenges. But the difference is not that great. It's... Let's see, we had in 1,997 in 2010 and then 1,609 this quarter. So it's not that significant given the challenges that we've had. I think our parking. Uh, including Jonathan Goldman, Captain Robarker, Lieutenant Skoog and Sergeant Gregory, they have done an outstanding job getting the system in place and dealing with all of the little idiosyncrasies that come along with it. In terms of our calls for service, we continue to average about 1,000 contacts with citizens per month. I think that's significant for an agency of this size and a community of this size. It means that we're really out there interacting with the community. And when you put it in the context of the number of complaints that we receive, it's great. It's really a very positive reflection on this agency and this community and that we are working in partnership and there's a great deal of respect there. So I'm very happy with that statistic. So that's essentially what was in your staff report. And that's not all that we do. I just wanted to, because I do have the gift of the gab, talk a little bit more about some other areas that we've been focused on. In anticipation of the summer months and maybe people playing some music or listening to bands outside, we're going to do some educational reminders about noise ordinances and levels that are appropriate late at night. We also have Officer Smogowski has done some educational reminders with the taxi service, and he's made 33 contacts this quarter. And he's basically saying, you know, do you have your license? Do you have a driver's license? Do you have a permit? Is your car insured? And he's just reminding them of the requirements that they need to have. So 33 compliance checks in the first quarter to make sure that things are running smoothly there. We continue to collect statistical information, primarily from me on the waterfront community and the water community. because I want to get an accurate picture of what that looks like. I really don't have an accurate understanding of what the impacts are on the community and what's going on there. So we continue to collect statistical data on what is our response to that community. We do know that in a recent review of our calls for service, from March this year to March last year, we had 1,208 calls for service. That includes the waterfront and Richmond Bay. So we're just sort of trying to paint that accurate picture to understand for me primarily as your chief of police what we have there. And our goal is to really sort of assess quality of life issues and then develop crime prevention strategies if that's appropriate. We have had, I know in the last meeting, Council Member Leon, you asked about foot patrols and field interviews. We had 456 foot patrols this quarter and 106 field interviews just this quarter. So in comparison to 2010, for the entire 2010, we had 1,700 foot patrols. So if you look at this quarter's statistics, we're probably going to exceed that for this year. And we don't do all of this alone. We have a great volunteer components, and although they logged only 102 hours this quarter, I have no doubt that. their contribution far exceeds $102. If I just look at Chris Gallagher alone, it's way above that. So in conclusion, I'm happy to report that Sausalito is still a wonderful place, a safe community, a great place to live, work, and play. And I want to thank you for this opportunity to serve as your police chief. you Any questions? |
| 01:27:30.96 | Mike Kelly | Of the 85 cyclists that you cited, what were the breakdown of their infractions? |
| 01:27:38.18 | Unknown | That I don't have. |
| 01:27:39.01 | Mike Kelly | Just roughly, is it more speeding or more running stop signs? |
| 01:27:42.13 | Unknown | Um... You know, I don't have that information, but I can get it to you in follow-up. |
| 01:27:47.27 | Mike Kelly | It's just curious. Yeah, it's failure to stop her pedagogy. |
| 01:27:48.88 | Unknown | Yeah, it's failure to stop for pedestrians. failing to stop at signals. I'm not sure what the breakdown is. |
| 01:27:52.81 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. Thank you. And I wanted to say that the business advisory committee, there was a fellow who came to speak to us last time, and he is the new, taxi commissioner guy from the county. I can't remember his name, but I'm sure it's in the minutes and Jeremy might remember it. So for the options doing the work with the taxis, they might be a good contact. |
| 01:28:08.42 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 01:28:08.69 | John Trouth | Okay. |
| 01:28:09.30 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:28:09.38 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 01:28:09.75 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:28:09.77 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:28:19.49 | Unknown | That would be a great question. |
| 01:28:19.96 | Carolyn Ford | Contact. |
| 01:28:21.82 | Herb Weiner | Yeah. He might need some help anyway, that administrator. Anyway. |
| 01:28:28.53 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah, I just had a question. Did the city participate in the recent and it was a statewide cell phone, mobile, and many of you have always participated in this. So did we participate that as well? |
| 01:28:40.48 | Unknown | Yes, we're participating in that. |
| 01:28:41.93 | Jonathan Leone | participating in that. that is. |
| 01:28:43.54 | Unknown | or if you don't have those You know what, I don't have those numbers. 23. 23 citations for distractive driving violations |
| 01:28:55.10 | Unknown | Have we run through all the program under the feedback program? |
| 01:28:58.69 | Unknown | That runs through to next year, I think September of.... Yes, yeah. |
| 01:29:02.79 | Unknown | You just put it down. |
| 01:29:04.02 | Jonathan Leone | Yes. |
| 01:29:04.21 | Unknown | . |
| 01:29:04.55 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah. |
| 01:29:08.56 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 01:29:09.54 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. It would be interesting at some point when you're ready to just get an idea of how you find the nature of what we're doing here versus, you know, in a lot of somewhat similar, somewhat different, and just how that would just be educational for us. In overall crime? |
| 01:29:26.94 | Unknown | In overall crime? No, no. |
| 01:29:28.17 | Jonathan Leone | No, there's a very different crime pattern. Right. It just calls for service to residents, like that kind of thing. So a lot of times we don't have that frame of reference that you have or the other officers have working in other municipalities. |
| 01:29:29.99 | Unknown | Right. |
| 01:29:30.82 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 01:29:42.36 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah, I think that's |
| 01:29:42.40 | Unknown | Yeah, I think that's the value of statistics when we compare it to something similar and to other. |
| 01:29:47.15 | Jonathan Leone | It's good that we're a pretty intensive use community with so small a number of residents. People don't realize that calls for service are very high. |
| 01:29:55.39 | Unknown | Yeah. And it's also significant to note that that number doesn't include |
| 01:29:56.72 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:30:02.29 | Unknown | a lot of self-initiated contacts that the officers have, and I think I mentioned it in strategic planning The officers are approached regularly on the street, either it's stand with me and take a picture, or can you give me directions, or can you explain this or that? Those contacts aren't even recorded in that. So it is very significant. Great, thank you. You're welcome. |
| 01:30:28.48 | Herb Weiner | Thank you very much. At this time, do you have any comment from the public on that? Okay. Therefore, thank you very much, Chief. |
| 01:30:30.25 | Unknown | Good job. |
| 01:30:37.54 | Reza Najafi | Thanks again. |
| 01:30:41.31 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:30:42.69 | Herb Weiner | Okay, next item is the adopt resolution approving the corpiard work scope and budget changes. That's one. Two is a 2011 street repair program, corpiard project scope and budget changes, and three, augmentation request. Todd Teachout. |
| 01:31:10.77 | Todd Teach-Adams | Mr. Mayor, fellow council people, council members. I'm Todd Teach-Adams, city engineer. In February we presented a report on the street repair program. At that time we had just completed Um... basically the pavement management system update and we had created a preliminary list of streets to repair. Since that time, the consultants have done field assessments and better scoping budget updates. They're approximately 65% planned development for the street repair And similarly for the corp yard paving. Also in that time, we were notified by transportation authority of Marin that we received a a Safe Routes to School grant to construct sidewalks along a watery street and ebb tide. So we thought that would be a good opportunity for consideration of lumping together. So we're talking about these things all together, which is the street repair program, the corp yard, repave, and the safe routes to school in an effort to appeal to a general engineering contractor and get a project size that will appeal to them as well as to simplify and streamline project management. So with that brief overview, I wanted to go through what's where we are. The project consists at the moment, the updated list, the dig outs, slurry seal streets, and overlay. |
| 01:32:59.77 | Jonathan Leone | Todd, what, you may want to explain what a dig out is. A dig out is. |
| 01:33:02.47 | Todd Teach-Adams | A dig out is a basically it's a pothole. It's a very large pothole that can't be fixed by throwing a little bit of asphalt. They have to physically saw out the asphalt and do a base reconstruction, a localized base reconstruction to reestablish the roadway structure. Um, Between February and now, we've revised the estimate. The street list originally was about 510,000. Now it's up to 546, 547 for the exact same scope. between February and now. Uh, we learned that Upper South Street appears to be a private Thank you. We have yet to notify the property owners of this We will be doing that shortly and providing them an opportunity of We're not going to go up and dig up the asphalt out of there now, are we? Well, what we want to do is, if indeed it's private, I think we'll extend an offer of doing it for them for our costs. We'll see how that goes. The Safe Routes to School grant puts a sidewalk on the southerly side of Watery Street. Watery Street, as you know, is a gravel street and through the years has been |
| 01:34:08.85 | Herb Weiner | And, Yes. |
| 01:34:38.40 | Todd Teach-Adams | uh, part of a debate for the improving of it. There's a small section of it. a little under 20% or so that's improved with sidewalk, curb, gutter, and paving. The rest is gravel. We estimate to pave the balance of the street would be 62,000 square feet. So we're proposing to include that. within this project. We've gone through the rainy season and we've discovered some new deficiencies along Toyon to deal with spring discharge management, as well as Casno and Glencurry, which we believe will require the installation of some curbing to manage the gutter flows. Adding those elements to the earlier scope raises the project cost to roughly $615,000 That succeeds our budget. So we have a budget shortfall of $90,000. To get to make the project whole, we are recommending council defund a budgeted project, which was to regrade Hecht Avenue. Hecht Avenue is another gravel street in town. It essentially provides access to the freeway right of way as well as some self-towers. And then the balance of the funding by diminishing the project budget for the traffic signal upgrades. |
| 01:36:26.16 | Mike Kelly | Tom, what did you say? Hecht Avenue provides what? |
| 01:36:26.25 | Todd Teach-Adams | I would. |
| 01:36:31.18 | Jonathan Leone | It goes up off of, towards the highway and the cell phone towers that are next to the highway. That's all it does. It's not there are no residences on HECC. Um, |
| 01:36:43.31 | Todd Teach-Adams | Thank you. |
| 01:36:43.51 | Linda Pfeifer | Isn't Hecht in the south side of town? Thank you. |
| 01:36:47.11 | Todd Teach-Adams | Thank you. |
| 01:36:47.14 | Linda Pfeifer | Yeah. Is that above Marion? It's above Marion? Yeah. Above Marion. I just couldn't hear it. Oh, OK. |
| 01:36:47.16 | Todd Teach-Adams | Yes. Yeah, it's nice. It has that, you know, you accessed it off of Marion. |
| 01:36:53.03 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. Yeah, you actually. And it's my understanding that isn't there some sort of a hazard related to HECT or with respect to the necessity of getting it regraded? |
| 01:37:06.09 | Todd Teach-Adams | I'm not personally aware of that. Okay. There might be, I'm just not aware of it. |
| 01:37:08.00 | Linda Pfeifer | Okay. |
| 01:37:08.67 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:37:11.86 | Todd Teach-Adams | Uh, We still, San Carlos is proposed to be reconstructed as a concrete street. It is a steep street. The direction is to, last year also in the process of responding to the Environmental Protection Agency's order for compliance, we did a citywide assessment of our sanitary sewers and determined that the sanitary sewer on San Carlos from essentially Bridgeway to Bulkley needs to be fixed. So at the moment the project doesn't have a construction component to do that work and we have yet to do the storm drain. Since the street is being repaired, we think it would be a really good idea to factor that in. So that's an unresolved issue at the moment. But if you authorize to continue, we will determine those things and come back to you. Here's a map of the scope. This is unchanged essentially from February, oops. Okay, here we go. The blue streets are streets to be overlaid. We have orange, which is slurry seal, and then we have red, my eyes can't distinguish too much between the red and the orange. Here's a red one, here's an orange one. The orange ones are slur-sealed, the red ones are dig-outs. Here's some close-ups. Valley Crescent, Sausalito Boulevard. There's a little bit of Sausalito Boulevard that is being overlaid to correct a drainage problem. This is the South Street segment. The physical, you know, this is South Street, the lower South Street. And as mapped, the right-of-way is just a continuation further up. So you've got the physical road that's almost perpendicular to the legal right-of-way. There's a parking deck up there that has signs that we own it. And that may be within the right of way, but these other parts appear to be on private property. No, we have. |
| 01:39:55.01 | Linda Pfeifer | So, Todd, when you say the South Street, the upper South Street, you're not talking about the main thoroughfare. You're talking about the South Street that's up above. |
| 01:40:03.87 | Todd Teach-Adams | Very much so, yeah. It's access off of Marion. |
| 01:40:09.66 | Todd Teach-Adams | Here's a northerly part of town showing additional work. |
| 01:40:19.68 | Todd Teach-Adams | I'll move it a little harder again. That's it. Thank you. Santa Rosa for a slurry seal, some private streets, San Carlos, Woodward. |
| 01:40:33.48 | Todd Teach-Adams | Yeah, B, at the moment I think we've taken that off because of the project costs, but We again have about a 60% plan for that, but no budget. |
| 01:40:47.29 | John Shaw | I think. |
| 01:40:50.81 | Todd Teach-Adams | And then some of the northern part of town, Olima. Butte, which isn't on there. Harbor Drive, Marine Ship Way, and such. So that's a summary of where we are with the street repair program. Corporation yard, the original scope was just to repave the yard. It had a budget of $60,000. During the field assessment they found some some settlements and some bird baths. They also found a vehicle wash area that was creating problems not only for the for water quality but for the operation of the corp yard building. Apparently they're plumbed together and when because of some root growth and the proximity of trees and roots and everything when they wash vehicles occasionally it backs up into the bathrooms into the corp yard so So there's been a recommendation to separate out the plumbing for the wash rack from the building, and that's approximately $25,000. Thank you. Thank you. With the EPA compliance order, we acquired a VACTOR to assist in the cleaning of the sanitary sewer lines as well as other things. Ideally, we need to stockpile the holdings of that vector. So a pad has been proposed that is plumbing to the sanitary sewer to allow the backdoor waste to be decanted, dewatered, to allow it to be dried before it's offhauled to a landfill. That's approximately $68,000. Consultants requesting additional design fees of $15,000 for that. So together we have these items, these And... Total about $150,000 project. But we have a $99,000 shortfall. Because of the added work is sewer related, we're asking that the sewer fund augment the project and $100,000 be transferred from the sewer fund to this account to allow those improvements to be done. And then the safe routes to school. We received approximately $93,000 to construct those sidewalks on Watery and Ebb Tide. It's new resources, so it hasn't... You recently approved the grants. It wasn't in the budget originally, so it's brand new resources. Consultants are asking $15,730 to do the sidewalk design. As we've mentioned before, we expect it to create more demands for the paving of Watery Street, which we have proposed within the street repair. We're suggesting at the moment that this work be added to the street repair program plans and specifications. So that's a brief synopsis of the presentation. We're asking that you adopt attached resolution, which is pretty complicated. So we'll bullet point, accept the revised street repair program. There's a little bit more I want to talk about on that point. We want you to approve the additional work including the drainage repairs, retaining wall on near one ebb tide. This was a problem that happened during the rainy season. If we don't fix it, that street will become impassable. So that is a necessary $27,500 cost and add watery. We're recommending that you approve the additional site work at the corporation yard. We're recommending you approve the amendment number one to the professional services agreement we have with our consultant for an additional design work not to exceed $35,000. that you defund Hect Avenue project budget appropriating of that $47,000, $26,950 to the street repair program and $20,450 for CSG, and then reducing the signal upgrade project budget and reallocating those to the street repair program. Finally, appropriating $15,730 of the St. Rousk School Program for design with CSG. So there's a couple errors in the report. The big one is the table. I gave you a handout. It looks like this. It shows the February 2000 cost estimate in April 2011. The dollar figures at the bottom are 509, 191, and for February and 616, 656. The table within your report has in it on the Repave Overlay Street, 3rd Street. That project was not totaled into those figures. It was proposed to be moved to ad alternate. In the process of doing the repairs or doing the report prep The cost estimate for that is roughly $150,000. |
| 01:47:04.63 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:47:12.34 | Todd Teach-Adams | supports reinstalling that, it could be funded by essentially defunding the signal repair program and moving those resources into a into their street repair program. Otherwise, we remain to have a budget shortfall And then finally, This is essentially a one-page summary Thank you. I hoped it would be a little more visible. But essentially this shows our budgets. I wanted to make a couple points. Column wise, this is a bit of a takeoff from the budget from an account level. 4118 is the street repair program. 4120 is the base repair. For purposes of this discussion, we've combined those into the street repair program. So most of the calculations show up in this column. uh, 4143 is the corp yard and the other one, the Safe Routes, hasn't been given an account number yet. Thank you. But this shows the breakdown of the the budget amounts, the expenditures for those, the balance, and how we are recommending our funding. So it's a little bit complicated, but for the most part, it works. For purposes of keeping the numbers round, there's a little bit of a deficit as a net balance and a little bit of a surplus, $78 in the street repair and $617 in the courtyard. So with that, we conclude our report. We are recommending that you adopt the attached resolution. |
| 01:49:24.07 | Carolyn Ford | We'll be right back. |
| 01:49:24.15 | Mike Kelly | What's the third street versus the lights? What's the problem with the lights that would have to be deferred? |
| 01:49:24.17 | Carolyn Ford | What? |
| 01:49:33.89 | Todd Teach-Adams | Republic Electric advised us that the signal heads are getting a little corroded and it's getting more and more difficult to service those things. As far as we've been advised, I don't believe we're at a significant safety problem as far as the heads dropping off, but there are some of those issues. |
| 01:50:03.98 | Mike Kelly | Are you recommending then that you do the third street project? |
| 01:50:07.71 | Todd Teach-Adams | Thank you. |
| 01:50:07.74 | Mike Kelly | Given the... |
| 01:50:07.81 | Todd Teach-Adams | Given what we understand of the situation, I believe there would be a lot greater benefit to the community if we did pay over Third Street. |
| 01:50:08.69 | Mike Kelly | here. Thank you. |
| 01:50:17.16 | John Trouth | Hey. |
| 01:50:20.97 | Todd Teach-Adams | It's been a little bit difficult for me because we were trying to do that last year and it got deferred because of a private undergrounding project. Now it's, you know, in theory this year's its turn, and now the dynamic is suggesting it's a judgment call whether or not it should be done or not. |
| 01:50:48.65 | Jonathan Leone | Todd, can I ask you a couple questions? And I'll leave third street out of it from my point of view. So you're suggesting, just to recap, and so I have it all in my head, to delete HECT from the program this year? Yes. Okay. And that might be something to the city manager to consider and the city attorney to consider adding in these cell phone agreements is that they take on the responsibility for maintenance of their access, basically, to their own installations. So that might be as those structure roll over over up there and you will get a new ones because AT&T D-Mobile will have to change your whole installation up there if that goes through so that might be a way to kind of allay that and even if it doesn't we should start |
| 01:51:11.65 | John Trouth | of |
| 01:51:30.31 | Jonathan Leone | putting some of the income from those aside to fund these repairs to Thank you. |
| 01:51:37.47 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:51:38.04 | Jonathan Leone | to Hecht, which would make some sense. |
| 01:51:38.17 | Unknown | What the heck? |
| 01:51:41.30 | Jonathan Leone | And so San Carlos, you're saying to defer. Are you saying to defer that one? No, no. |
| 01:51:47.32 | Todd Teach-Adams | No, no, we're recommending that we have. |
| 01:51:49.73 | Jonathan Leone | Are you moving ahead with the sewer project at the same time? |
| 01:51:52.53 | Todd Teach-Adams | Well... that we're going to be doing. |
| 01:51:53.48 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah. |
| 01:51:53.50 | Todd Teach-Adams | Thank you. We don't have the cost for the sewer and the storm drain work at this point. That will be further developed with this consultant budget augmentation. We'll have to come back to you whether it is right before we solicit bids or during the process of award. |
| 01:52:14.08 | Jonathan Leone | Right, but given the time frame and your turn of budget pretty soon. the likelihood of designing the sewer repairs and implementing them in this budget cycle or even this repair cycle before the winter rains seems relatively low. |
| 01:52:32.39 | Todd Teach-Adams | I'm |
| 01:52:33.05 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:52:34.01 | Todd Teach-Adams | Thank you. |
| 01:52:34.03 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 01:52:34.08 | Todd Teach-Adams | to. |
| 01:52:34.15 | Jonathan Leone | You have the sewer funding given the state. |
| 01:52:34.18 | Todd Teach-Adams | Quite the contrary. |
| 01:52:36.39 | Jonathan Goldman | Bye. |
| 01:52:36.43 | Todd Teach-Adams | Bye. |
| 01:52:36.97 | Jonathan Leone | Given the situation at the state, do we have the money to fix the sewer part of it? Yes. We do. Yeah. That we have. If that's our fund or the revolving fund. |
| 01:52:41.32 | Todd Teach-Adams | Yes. Yeah, the envisioned, our funds. The envisioned repair is a trenchless pipe bursting project where we'd install a expanding thing, burst the pipe, and put in a slip line. That's a lot, I believe, a lot lower cost. |
| 01:52:58.65 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:52:58.67 | Jonathan Leone | Okay. |
| 01:52:59.29 | Carolyn Ford | Well, Thank you. |
| 01:52:59.65 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 01:52:59.98 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:53:01.40 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah. |
| 01:53:02.13 | Todd Teach-Adams | And then we'd install two manholes and |
| 01:53:05.05 | Jonathan Leone | Okay, so it's not a trenching process for this one? No, not at all. |
| 01:53:05.28 | Todd Teach-Adams | Yes. No. |
| 01:53:09.97 | Jonathan Leone | That's what I would. |
| 01:53:10.26 | Todd Teach-Adams | That's right. |
| 01:53:11.73 | Jonathan Leone | At Saucena Boulevard, are we asking some of the residents there that have altered the street to actually pay to repair the damage that they've done to the drainage on that street? The people who put their apron out with other materials? Is that the section you're talking about? |
| 01:53:26.33 | Todd Teach-Adams | We have to go confer with those residents on getting their buy-in, basically, on connection changes. At this point, I envision to go in there pretty forcefully, offering to do a partial reconstruction of their driveway, but reestablishing what's the asphalt. Some of these driveways encroach into the travelway. Right, and without proper permits to actually... |
| 01:54:03.40 | Jonathan Leone | Right. THE END OF and put that in place. |
| 01:54:06.81 | Todd Teach-Adams | Well, that's, yeah, I don't know if that's the case. I have to believe that the work was permitted and why it was allowed. Okay. It's hard to say. |
| 01:54:07.79 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah. |
| 01:54:18.17 | Jonathan Leone | You know, the... Corporation yard in general, I don't know, Jonathan, if you want to speak to this or Todd. |
| 01:54:20.87 | Todd Teach-Adams | THE END OF I'm sorry. |
| 01:54:25.24 | Jonathan Leone | Sometimes it's troubling to me that this is in this budget street repair program. Why would the corporation yard capital improvements be partially funded out of street repair? |
| 01:54:34.30 | Todd Teach-Adams | Bye. It's not partially funded. |
| 01:54:37.79 | Jonathan Leone | Partially funded. Take it out of the sewer fund. |
| 01:54:39.66 | Todd Teach-Adams | Yeah, from a budgeting standpoint, Um, the capital improvement program, the general capital fund has a specific, you know, budgeted $60,000 for the corporate yard to do the paving. We through field assessment and this EPA thing we needed to add essentially another |
| 01:54:53.91 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:55:03.51 | Todd Teach-Adams | $90,000 to the scope |
| 01:55:06.02 | Jonathan Leone | So the 6D was a separate, I'm just, I don't have the budget in front of me, but. Yeah, it's not part of the street repair program. It's not the street repair program. It's over in the CI capital improvement. Correct. |
| 01:55:10.38 | Todd Teach-Adams | Yeah, it's not part of the street care program. Correct. It's embedded in this discussion because we're attempting to embed it in the work because the type of contractor who does the street repair is perfectly capable of doing this. Okay. |
| 01:55:15.52 | Jonathan Leone | It's in. |
| 01:55:28.97 | Jonathan Leone | but the dewatering concept of sewage spoils in the open Thank you. |
| 01:55:37.18 | Todd Teach-Adams | no no no is it in a closed space yeah we're we're creating a pad that's got plumbing in it and we're we'll be installing a closed dumpster okay so it's not open to the air no |
| 01:55:37.21 | Jonathan Leone | No, no, no. |
| 01:55:48.23 | Jonathan Leone | Okay, so it's not open to the air. Yeah. Okay, you're ready for the |
| 01:55:50.27 | Todd Teach-Adams | Thank you. |
| 01:55:52.31 | Jonathan Leone | Have you seen it installed somewhere else so we can see how much it can... |
| 01:55:55.03 | Todd Teach-Adams | Yeah. Well, we actually attempted to install it on the city parcel just north of Malia's, near the city hall site. And we got no complaints about odors, but there's some visual impacts there. I remember when it was there. |
| 01:56:06.22 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah, all site. |
| 01:56:11.63 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:56:11.65 | Jonathan Leone | both. |
| 01:56:11.97 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:56:12.04 | Jonathan Leone | There's some... I remember when it was there. You snuck it in there, Goldman. You snuck it in there. Attaboy, Jonathan. That's a park, right, Jacques? |
| 01:56:18.67 | Todd Teach-Adams | in. |
| 01:56:18.97 | Herb Weiner | Great. That's a park, right, Jacques? |
| 01:56:25.45 | Jonathan Leone | uh, And then I'll stop at the one last thing. With sidewalk design, is it really that expensive? 15% of your budget for sidewalk repairs would be design of the sidewalk? |
| 01:56:40.09 | Todd Teach-Adams | of. Thank you. I would say yes because it's a small project and there's going to be a lot of survey work to get the driveway conforms done right. |
| 01:56:55.14 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:56:55.19 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 01:56:55.24 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:56:55.26 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 01:56:55.27 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:56:55.31 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 01:56:55.34 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:56:55.37 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 01:56:55.41 | Carolyn Ford | Okay. |
| 01:56:58.53 | Jonathan Leone | And for the sake of full disclosure, I live on Third Street, and so I'm not going to vote on the Third Street thing. Though my neighbors are constantly haranguing me about Third Street. So I'll be afraid if we could split this. Somehow I don't have to vote on Third Street. |
| 01:57:14.91 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:57:14.93 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 01:57:15.03 | Unknown | I'm just kidding. |
| 01:57:17.02 | Jonathan Leone | If you live in that part of town, there is a |
| 01:57:17.21 | Unknown | Okay. Thank you. |
| 01:57:21.12 | Herb Weiner | They're going to messed up streets. Yeah. In fact, they're all using 4th Street, because they don't want to go on 3rd Street. |
| 01:57:24.82 | Jonathan Leone | I want to go on third street. I'm driving by your house. I'm driving by your house now. I don't go down third street. He's going back. |
| 01:57:26.68 | Herb Weiner | I grow up at your house now. They go by with signs on. So we got to vote. Okay. Yeah. Thank you, Todd. Thanks. At this time here, any public comment on this item? Please come up. State your name. |
| 01:57:31.62 | Jonathan Leone | Okay, no. thing. |
| 01:57:34.49 | Jonathan Goldman | Thank you. |
| 01:57:34.52 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 01:57:43.16 | Herb Weiner | I've got two. Okay. |
| 01:57:46.84 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:57:48.12 | Charlie Martin | My name is Charlie Martin and I'm here regarding Watery Street. I've actually been here since regarding Watery Street since 2000. Thank you. |
| 01:57:56.85 | Herb Weiner | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:57:57.51 | Charlie Martin | I met with the city and several people over the years. I feel for you and your |
| 01:57:57.61 | Herb Weiner | I, uh... |
| 01:58:08.32 | Charlie Martin | Third and Fourth Street issues. But I just would like to give you a couple of photographs that would help you understand that we have maybe more of them than you might think. you Small street. Um, I received a letter from the then-Mayor Sandra Bushmaker Dear Charlie, this was dated January 15, 2002. Last week's council meeting approved the 10-year capital improvement, $48 million. We do have all the money yet. Watery Street reconstruction is item. 1M7, $70,000 has been allocated for the cost, docketed $7,900. I'm sort of a thorn in the city because I've been every year asking for some improvements to this street Um, There's a school, a little street school, the dust. It's deplorable and I think the city really needs to take responsibility for the street, as you can see, in those pictures, there's asphalt underneath all the stuff they've dumped on it. Well, the last engineer denied there was asphalt I presented pictures to Mayor Bushmaker at the time where she said, well, it looks like asphalt. must be asphalt. And that wasn't even that, because what happened there was really the last two years of heavy weather. I started on September 15. I went to all the neighbors. We signed a petition and I wrote a letter. brought it to the city, that's why we're here. I think it's time to give this attention. I think, I don't know how to approach this other than If we can't get it done, do we make it a legal issue? Because we've done everything that we can privately to try to get this city the street. remedy. Most of you know me because of this issue and I've tried to be civil about it but I think it's time to kind of, you know. Let's get it done. And I know there's other people here tonight who probably say the same thing. homeowner who wrote me a letter which I received April 13th. Her name was Pamela Day. She owns 612-614. It just consists of gravel, deep rugs, winter rains, my time up? |
| 02:00:52.82 | Herb Weiner | Go ahead, I'll give you a little bit. |
| 02:00:53.83 | Charlie Martin | Okay. difficult foot or car traffic. The spring and fall creates many dust storms covering cars and blowing into homes, even in poor conditions. Children attending Willow Creek Academy. Foot traffic represents a hazard and a liability to the city. her portion was paved because when her father improved that property, he was told he had to pave that. He had to pay that in order to get a permit. Well, I subsequently bought 610-612 Watery Street, and I was told the exact same thing. And I told the building inspector that there was no way I was going to pay to pave your street. |
| 02:01:33.85 | John Trouth | Okay. |
| 02:01:38.57 | Charlie Martin | Well, they granted me the building permit right on the spot. I mean, it's extortion. It's time for the city to come forward. And I don't know how else to put it, but I think that it's, you know, I'm here requesting nicely again. 10 years later, that this street, it's only 180 feet long. The first estimate that I got In 2002, it was $15,000. I see that you have, I don't know how much, There's a company called American Asphalt. asphalt to the street that I own, 1180 feet. 15 feet wide, 3 1⁄2 inches of asphalt for $24,000. Excuse me. There's something wrong here. And I don't know how you spend your money. I'd be more than happy to help the city find a contractor that can meet the requirements that you have for possibly something that will save money. I mean, it's just unbelievable. $15,000 to design a sidewalk It makes me turn over, I can't even believe it. I think that's about it. Thank you. |
| 02:02:51.15 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, Charlie. Yes, sir. |
| 02:02:57.39 | John Trouth | John Trouth, I live at 14 Toyon Court. I've lived there since 1973. I'm here to speak in favor of a proposal in Mr. T. Schatz's report on the drainage repair. We live at 14 Toyon Court. There's a parking lot above us, and there's a running stream, which has been running there for more than seven years now. It runs all year long, and it creates a large, muddy area. area. One of our neighbors has a which has been running there for more than seven years now. It runs all year long and it creates a large muddy area. One of our neighbors has an 11-year-old child who plays in that area and it's unhealthful for him to be there. For us, the stream almost every day descends down toward our houses below the parking lot. It's destroying the street that we need to use to get out of our area. And also it's creating a difficult situation because when people park in the parking lot and want to come down to our homes, it's constantly slippery because it's constantly wet. We've had guests slip and have unfortunate situations occurring. I think what's being proposed talks about redirecting the stream with some type of curbing I think what's really needed is a culvert that would simply go across the parking lot. There's a complete drain on the other side. that runs right down Toyon Court and down beyond. It would be very simple to solve the problem once and for all by creating a culvert, and that's what we'd like to propose. I've talked to Mr. Teachout a couple times about that. I was very pleased to see this drainage repair as part of the proposal. I'd like to support that, but I hope the problem could be remedied permanently, and I don't think just creating different curbing is going to do it. So I'd like to be on the record to request that we take a little closer look at that situation and try and improve it because for the seven of us who live in that area, it's creating a constant problem for us. And I thank you for your consideration of that. Okay, thank you. |
| 02:05:11.80 | Bill Allen | I'm Bill Allen. I'm the owner of 612-614 Watery Street. And I just wanted to come and speak in support of the road improvements. I think we got pretty good coverage of the issue already. But we've owned the property I think four or five years. And I just want to echo that some of the same problems that have been described we're experiencing. And with this grant money that appears to be available, this seems like an opportune time to make these repairs and would really make us happy for one. Thank you. |
| 02:05:43.44 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:05:43.46 | Neil Whitelaw | Thank you. Neil? Neil Whitelaw crossed the street at 408 B Street. I've lived there eight years. I don't remember it ever being paved. I've measured it, there's a crack. I can't say it's that deep. It's almost four inches. It's not even deep. It's raised up like a mountain. It's a good thing I know where it is at night so I don't trip over it. But somebody's sure bound too soon. So you might want to take care of that. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:06:13.87 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, Neil. |
| 02:06:14.53 | Neil Whitelaw | you |
| 02:06:14.81 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:06:15.35 | Neil Whitelaw | Thank you. |
| 02:06:15.44 | Herb Weiner | Razor? |
| 02:06:19.25 | Reza Najafi | Mayor, Council Member, I am Reza Najafi, an owner of a property at Wadirid Street and whatever Charlie Martin and the other neighbor told you is absolutely true. I wish if you have not been recently there, just drive by and see what it is. It is embarrassing for Sausalito to have a road like that. So I hope that you can approve the city engineer recommendation. Thank you very much. |
| 02:06:43.28 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. . Anybody else? Go ahead. |
| 02:06:48.77 | John Shaw | Yeah, my name is John Shaw, 8 Toy on Court. I live across the driveway from John Trout. And I basically just want to reiterate what he said. I've been up there since 1971. The street is perpetually wet there, and it does get extremely slippery. When you walk down, it's a fairly steep grade from the spring as it feeds into the street down, and it stays slimy all the time. And you walk down there, and if you got on a pair of tennis shoes, you're going down. So it's a hazard, it's an eyesore, and it's kind of unsanitary. We've had mosquitoes breeding in there too, so. Anyway, I think that the city should take care of that. |
| 02:07:20.46 | John Trouth | Hazard. |
| 02:07:29.28 | John Shaw | Thank you. |
| 02:07:29.87 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Anybody else? Okay, let's bring it up here, this time here. |
| 02:07:36.39 | Mike Kelly | Yeah. |
| 02:07:36.64 | Jonathan Leone | just for historical relevance charlie you know you and i've talked about watery street many times over the years and whether your particular building and the planning process but you remember there There's been enough turnover on that street. The people who used to want it to stay gravel have left. And at other times they were threatening to sue the city if the city paved that street. So there's a back story to that. And the city had graded it was maybe two years ago. We finally graded it again. But I think the time has come, given the neighborhood support, if we have the money to to pave the last, and Gordon and Watery were the last two unpaved streets, and private development did pay for paving Gordon, the last little stub of Gordon. it's time to to pave this one I don't think there's any historical significance of gravel streets that's worth retaining in the character of that neighborhood for certain it's it's it's a hazard and it detracts in the neighborhood so is it in here I think Todd added it in here because he's programming the sidewalk. Yeah, it's in there. |
| 02:08:41.24 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:08:41.26 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:08:41.27 | Mike Kelly | Yeah. |
| 02:08:44.39 | Herb Weiner | Yeah, it's in there. It's in there. Okay. |
| 02:08:46.11 | Ray Gerges | So if we approve this, we approve the restraint. Okay. |
| 02:08:46.13 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 02:08:46.25 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:08:49.64 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Yeah, and I really... Oh, go ahead, Council Member. |
| 02:08:49.84 | Ray Gerges | Yeah. |
| 02:08:50.44 | Carolyn Ford | you |
| 02:08:50.48 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:08:51.02 | Carolyn Ford | Yes. |
| 02:08:53.49 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. I just had a question for Todd. So Todd, Waterway Street is in here and it would address what we're seeing? Yes. Here? And then my next question was with respect to the culvert that was proposed in addition to the drainage beyond, you know, the simple curbing to, you know, permanently, you know, |
| 02:09:00.43 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:09:00.51 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:09:00.61 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:09:00.63 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Yes. |
| 02:09:01.94 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:09:18.80 | Todd Teach-Adams | It will be looked at. I'm not going to commit at this time that we'll do it, but we'll look at it. |
| 02:09:19.39 | Linda Pfeifer | It resolves the toy. |
| 02:09:26.68 | Todd Teach-Adams | we'll look at the two options that are being looked at. would be a surface concrete valley gutter and then an extension of the culvert. Both of those two options will be evaluate and cost it, and then we'll come back. |
| 02:09:44.37 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 02:09:44.74 | Linda Pfeifer | You'll come back to us with that. |
| 02:09:45.92 | Todd Teach-Adams | Thank you. |
| 02:09:45.94 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 02:09:46.09 | Todd Teach-Adams | Yeah. |
| 02:09:46.71 | Jonathan Leone | Well, it's actually good that they're here because we're coming into the budget cycle for the next capital improvement program, and this is something for you to review as part of that budget cycle. Well, If it goes outside of your available funds here. That's true. |
| 02:09:57.26 | Reza Najafi | Yeah. |
| 02:10:01.23 | Linda Pfeifer | And one more question, Todd. We heard a comment with respect to pricing, you know, that one job was done for 25, you know, K of the asphalt wall rolling and with respect to the $15,000 consultant fee for the sidewalk repair. I know we asked the question earlier, and you said you felt it was in you know, the realm, but... I'm wondering, does it make sense to kind of look at other bids for that work? Or are we locked in a contract with this, with that specific job? |
| 02:10:30.91 | Todd Teach-Adams | What? We're not obligated, but it's been our, in my experience, that that work will cost that amount. I don't have a good rebuttal for his comment other than Thank you. I'm not sure what he he prepared in the line of plans and specifications, but as a public agency, we're obligated to prepare engineering plans and specifications and go out to a public bid process that significantly raises the overhead cost to develop these things. |
| 02:11:12.79 | Mike Kelly | How many feet of cello? |
| 02:11:15.64 | Todd Teach-Adams | The block is 250 feet long. |
| 02:11:17.62 | Mike Kelly | So it's 250 feet of sidewalk. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I just had a similar experience, and it was $15,000 or $20,000 for about 120 feet of sidewalk and street. |
| 02:11:28.74 | Jonathan Leone | Constructed or designed? |
| 02:11:30.98 | Mike Kelly | Designed. And then that whole street, I had to do the street and I decided it was 200 grand. The problem is that you got that huge length and all the grades have to be right and everything has to be shot and you have to shoot to the other side of the street because you got to do the whole deal. So you're basically designing the street because everything that's done subsequent to that is going to tie into that work. So it's a lot of engineering work. |
| 02:11:39.23 | Carolyn Ford | It's amazing. |
| 02:11:56.48 | Jonathan Leone | And Todd, correct me if I'm wrong, just to clarify. You know, some of it's welcome to government process. But the city has to meet a sort of higher level of standard of work, as well as fair labor laws and all kinds of laws that a private project would not have to meet in terms of how things are constructed, designed, and built. That's part of it. So there's no cheap labor that is used as part of these. At least that's what our contractors certify to us, because by law we can't do that. I So that adds to the construction cost. I don't know about the design element so much, but it is surprising how much more it is for public work than private work, and that's, I think, part of that is that we've seen that many times over. We've done public-private partnership work, where it's a much lower bid on the other side. But just preparing the bid package, one of the things we do try to do is lump a lot of things together so it becomes a much more valuable project to a contractor. And that overhead for having to prepare that huge bid document gets spread out a little bit more over more work. So it's a little bit more value back to us, or to the citizens. I think that's what you're planning on doing here is lumping all these projects together. |
| 02:13:09.53 | Todd Teach-Adams | That's what we're trying to do. |
| 02:13:11.68 | Adam Politzer | Mr. Mayor, if I may. |
| 02:13:13.09 | Todd Teach-Adams | Yeah. |
| 02:13:14.21 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate Mr. Martin's comments there and Council Member Leon really just stated what I wanted to say. But it is important. These projects, our street repair projects, go up to bid. Any company is welcome to bid on the last project that we did last year. We had a number of competitive bids that we ended up awarding too. So if there is a contractor out there that does this type of work, and can save a significant amount of money Yeah. That person will probably have a lifetime of work in Sausalito. And we'll be providing good service. So, Mr. Martin, if you want to direct, you know, any contractor to bid on our public projects, we absolutely welcome that. |
| 02:14:05.88 | Herb Weiner | Okay. I attempted to drive on that road two days ago, and this picture really doesn't do it justice. |
| 02:14:14.94 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:14:16.43 | Herb Weiner | That crevice had to be about that. Your automobile wheel could get caught in that very easily. So I'm very, and I agree that something has to be done. So with that, do we have a resolution approving? |
| 02:14:27.04 | Mike Kelly | I |
| 02:14:27.53 | Heidi Burns | Yeah. |
| 02:14:30.95 | Mike Kelly | Resolution approving. Make a motion we adopt a resolution approving the corporate yard work scope and budget changes, the 2011. |
| 02:14:39.80 | Jonathan Leone | Can you split it into two pieces, please? |
| 02:14:42.70 | Mike Kelly | What two pieces would you like? Why don't you make a motion? I don't want to have any. Oh, OK. |
| 02:14:42.73 | Jonathan Leone | was Why'd you make the motion? |
| 02:14:45.97 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:14:46.11 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 02:14:47.04 | Carolyn Ford | Oh. |
| 02:14:47.78 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 02:14:47.86 | Carolyn Ford | Okay. |
| 02:14:48.15 | Jeremy Graves | Thank you. |
| 02:14:48.17 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 02:14:48.20 | Linda Pfeifer | And Mike, I live on South Street, so I think I just want to confirm that South Street was mentioned |
| 02:14:57.16 | Herb Weiner | Yeah, it's way up there left of Marion. |
| 02:15:00.22 | Linda Pfeifer | Well, there's this. I'm not in Upper South Street, though. I'm in Maine. I know where you are. |
| 02:15:02.97 | Herb Weiner | I know where you are. |
| 02:15:04.54 | Mike Kelly | Bye. |
| 02:15:04.59 | Linda Pfeifer | Yeah. |
| 02:15:04.65 | Mike Kelly | . |
| 02:15:04.67 | Linda Pfeifer | Do I need to? |
| 02:15:05.30 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:15:05.31 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:15:05.35 | Mike Kelly | Do I need to? Because we live on a street, do we have to recuse ourselves? |
| 02:15:08.15 | Linda Pfeifer | Do I need to recuse myself for South Street? No, I think so. You don't live on the portion of the highway? No, I'm on the main. No, then you don't have to. Okay, just before you move. Okay. |
| 02:15:10.09 | Mike Kelly | So, see. |
| 02:15:13.63 | Mike Kelly | No. |
| 02:15:14.58 | Adam Krivacci | Okay. |
| 02:15:15.39 | Mike Kelly | Okay. So, but I will split the third street out since you do live on third street. Part A, adopt a resolution approving corporate yard work scope budget changes and the 2011 street repair program, also with the corporate yard project scope and budget changes and the consultant budget augmentation request. |
| 02:15:21.19 | Jeffrey Cole | PART OF THEM. |
| 02:15:35.06 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:15:35.08 | Susan Rogier | Second. |
| 02:15:35.40 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:15:35.84 | Herb Weiner | Okay. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? |
| 02:15:37.41 | Mike Kelly | Bye. you And then, Next motion, that we adopt a resolution approving the third street repairs. |
| 02:15:46.57 | Linda Pfeifer | Second, |
| 02:15:47.31 | Herb Weiner | Okay, all in favor? Aye. Opposed? I'd stay. Okay. Motion to press. Okay, at this time here, I'd like to take up to about a five-minute break. So, you can come back. |
| 02:15:48.50 | Linda Pfeifer | Hi. |
| 02:16:02.50 | Jeremy Graves | New Street. |
| 02:16:04.26 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:16:04.44 | Jeremy Graves | And finally. |
| 02:16:05.40 | Herb Weiner | Please be seated. |
| 02:16:18.52 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Everybody found out the Giants won, so we're okay. |
| 02:16:24.90 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. It's too early in the studio. |
| 02:16:30.02 | Herb Weiner | but the Celtics won too. Okay. Where are we? Okay, here we go. This time here, I'd like to have the annual review of the City Council Priority Calendar, Step 1. We're reviewing the projects and Adam follows up. You're on. |
| 02:16:54.44 | Adam Politzer | Thank you, Mr. Mayor and City Council members. This is the fourth year of this process. So the good news is, is for three of the council members, you have gone through this three times previously and for Councilmember Pfeiffer, this will be, I believe, your Sir? You've done it twice. And this will be the third. For the council members, hoping that you folks are familiar with this process. For the community, some folks have been here each time of the four. asking for opportunities to have items place on the council's priority calendar Um, and then later considered to be adopted in the city budget. The list of opportunities is significant and never ending. and each one of the requests has a special uh, Yes, some special interest group behind it be at the seven people on toy on lane. that you heard about earlier or the handful of people on Waterway Street, or the people that like the stop sign for Booker and Spencer. people that wanted a stop sign or traffic coming on spring. Alexander Avenue, the list goes on and on. But that's what makes our job so rewarding is because when we are able to address these issues and get them complete or at least start it, and then in some cases get them done, lots of people are very happy, including the staff that spends time working on it. With that said, Um... We can't do everything, and I think one of the problems that our city had in past years and many other cities have is that they try to do everything and an inch at a time. and don't get a lot of things accomplished. And so the reason why we introduced this back in 2008 was to really align our resources, both our staff and our money, to work on projects one at a time. And so that we can actually get them done. and then we can move on to the next. But that wasn't an easy task either, because how do you identify what's the highest priority? Because we have five elected officials, that talk to many different people out in the community. They all have their own Um, specific projects that they would like to have at the highest level of the city's priority. and represent the folks that voted for them. So again, this is no small task going through this process. um, So this process basically is a three-step process. Tonight you'll review the list that's before you, a list of 52 items. Again, it's not an exhausted list. There'll be people here tonight. that will bring up items that are important to them. There will also be council members here tonight that reviewed the packet and said, well, You have 52, but I have another 37 that I'd like to have considered. and then And then you folks will have the chore of wrestling it down to a manageable list. and give staff the opportunity between now and May 3rd to go back and look at the resources that we have, the projects that are existing, the day-to-day responsibilities that the staff has to serve the community. and then identify the costs that may be associated with it. And some of these, as we saw tonight, We actually assign professional services to do the work and provide the report, as we saw tonight on the Vina del Mar report. So that was a good example of using resources that aren't our existing staff members to bring forward information in a timely fashion that we couldn't have done on our own and so the council would have approved budget dollars to support that effort. At the May 3rd council meeting, the staff will bring forward their recommendations on projects that they can take on either internally or use of professional services. And then the public and the council will also have an opportunity to add items that may have come forward either tonight or during the next couple of weeks and add those items and discuss those items to see if they stay on the list or not. At the conclusion of the meeting on May 3, the Council will vote and say and add those items and discuss those items to see if they stay on the list or not. At the conclusion of the meeting on May 3rd, the Council will vote and say these are the items. And let's just for argument's sake say that it's the 52 that are on there right now that are being proposed. And the Council agrees that those 52 items will be our highest priorities. then each council member between the May Third meeting. I'm sorry, yeah, the May 3rd meeting and the May 23rd meeting, will individually rank each one of those 52 items. each in the and in those items those lists will be sent to the city clerk who will take all that information and put into the staff report for the May 23rd meeting. each one of the individual council members' rating sheets, ranking sheets, And that will be collated and brought forward and the average will be shown. And the. the entire Council's highest priorities will now come together and the average of the individuals will now rate as one priority of the collective council. And each step of this process will go back through what's before the council and what the public's opportunity to participate in the process will be. But for tonight's sake, it's really just identifying what's on the list of 52. There are many people in the audience here tonight that have items that may be on the list that's proposed and maybe some items that didn't make the list that would like to have an opportunity to share. Because we've asked many of the boards and commissions to participate, there are some that were able to make tonight's deadline based on their meeting schedule. that are on their agenda. and some that will be sending information either supporting existing items that we are currently working on that are on our priority calendar as we speak. or items that have made the list of 52 that are new. or they will bring forward new items for the Council's consideration. We know that the business advisory committee and the Historic Landmarks Board and the Planning Commission And the hospitality committee We'll all be submitting additional or not additional, but they'll be submitting their priorities that they'd like the Council to consider prior to the May 3rd meeting. So we know that those four commissions, in addition to what you have tonight from the Park and Rec Commission, and a partial list from the sustainability commission that's in your packet tonight. And I know that the chairperson from the sustainability commission is here and he may have items that he'd like to have added or even removed based on the list that I was provided earlier. earlier last week. Um A couple other things to mention here, and as we go into this process is that we had our strategic planning session on March 25th and At that meeting, 117 items were identified. Um, and some of them, the group, of the department heads and the management team and the council uh, highlighted some of those items of things that they thought should be of higher priority for us to work on and both the public and the council Can review that information it's in tonight's packet. It was a consent item to accept the report. We'll put that report On the website tomorrow so the public can can read it and take a look at it and again from that list you may see some items as council members that you would like to have included as we move forward tonight in the adding or eliminating priority calendar items. And then again, as mentioned, the public will have an opportunity to share their requests to you as well tonight. They'll be able to do it again on May 3rd. But after May 3rd, it really, unless there's some surprise item that was not considered and someone's been out of town traveling and wasn't able to access email and send us a note saying that they'd like something considered. Really, when you get to May 23rd, you're now talking about where the item ends up being ranked. You folks will turn in your collective, your individual rankings, and then it will show rank and then you'll have to determine by a vote of three or greater, if the item should remain where it was ranked. An example of the public safety facility, we wanted to make sure that we put all the resources that we had of the city. So you had multiple department heads working on that project, including your public works director. Our finance director was obviously working in reviewing all of the funds that were spent and then also working with the bond oversight committee to make sure that those funds that were spent were spent correctly. You had your police chief and your fire chief obviously looking at all the various operations. You had multiple council members sitting on committees at different levels all the way to the very end. We had project consultants that worked with us and obviously we got the project done to the community satisfaction and we saved a few dollars at the end of that process. But that may not have happened and it may not have happened in the same timing if we wouldn't have ranked that as one of our top priorities because we may have directed staff towards other projects and other activities. And so that was really one of the main goals of this process was to make sure that the staff It's a clear communication from the council. on where we want to spend our resources. The next step in this, after we conclude this process on May 23rd, is the budget component. You can't tell us to do something and not give us the funds to do it. It's like saying go pave all the streets, but you have no money to do it. uh, Yeah, so, you know, I think that when we look at this process as a tool to help us be more effective and efficient, It's working. It's giving the community a clear idea of what we're working on, |
| 02:28:02.61 | John Trouth | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:28:06.83 | Adam Politzer | and what our council priorities are. and where they're ranked. so that when people are looking, why aren't we working on this? We can say because we have these. And in the case of this last year, we had 25 projects you above the line of the 44 that the council considered last year. So the community has an opportunity to look at what's above the line, what staff resources are being utilized. to get those projects done. and then what items are below the line. So, you know, at the end of my report here tonight, Thank you. I just want to again reiterate, you know, that the definition for the priority calendar at a minimum requires at least 40 hours of staff time working outside of what their normal day-to-day responsibilities are. A good example of that right now is the work that Heidi Burns is doing with the Veterans Administration and our our Army Corps of Engineers building. That's a project that came up. that needed immediate attention of the staff. The council gave direction. on a 5-0 vote that it was our highest priority at that moment in time. Gave me clear direction to work with our community development director, Jeremy Graves, and who with Heidi working with the Historic Landmark Store and with the council has kept that item at a very high priority and in the public's purview. The other things that are listed in the staff report are that are traditionally one time in nature. So the VA is a good example of that. The America's cap are things that are usually one time in nature. and gives us the opportunity ordinances, resolutions, updating those are usually one time in nature, but require a specific amount of staff time. They also do not reflect routine provisions of city services. So again, as you hear requests from the public tonight and on May 3rd, and from past meetings, you know, these are good things to take a look at as you consider what makes the list or not. You'll see in the staff report that we divided this up into different categories. You know, some of them are legal, some of them are review and updating ordinances and policies and resolutions. Some are council or staff projects that have come up at various council meetings or in our strategic planning sessions or at or at council. Committee meetings. Others have come from boards and commissions from their list and also from their work with city staff. And then their requests to councils, to the city council throughout the year. and then others come from the community. and some that we have control of and others that we don't, that we have to respond to as we go forward. You'll notice in the staff report that there are some items that were on last year's priority calendar that were either above or below the line that have been removed. and remove based on a recommendation. You folks have to adopt that these items should be removed based on staff's recommendation. But the one that obviously we're most proud of is the public safety building that that project was done and in my humble opinion was done very well. There are others on here like the bicycle master plan to include downtown bicycle coordination and bike parking and signage I think every year with the mayor's guidance and help out there as being the main bike expert for the city and probably for Southern Marin. has helped work with the various parties involved, and now from the council's consideration of creating a bicycle and pedestrian commission or committee, We'll be moving forward in appointing members to that and staff's recommendation is that would be their role, so we don't need to have that as a council priority when we've already prioritized forming a bicycle and pedestrian committee to review all things related to that subject. So, you know, I won't read through all the lists here. Some of them have just lost some momentum because the community members have been Thank you. that were behind them either moved out of town or have been distracted on noon, New items. Um, and have put their efforts forward somewhere else. They may be here tonight to say, wait a second, I see my item on the list and I would like to keep it active and put back on the list. The last thing I'll say and I'll conclude because I know there's people in the public here that would like to, in our audience here, that would like to... Um, speak. and stop listening to me. But to remove anything that's on the current list also takes a vote of three, and to add things on the current list takes a vote of three. You can do that by consensus. Everyone's head nodding that they agree it should be on there, or you can take a formal vote that's at the discretion of the mayor if you'd like a roll call on any of the items or just have hands go up and down as we go through the list if that is in fact what you want to do. I don't recommend that you need to do that tonight because really you just wanted to add things to that list and then at the next meeting give staff the opportunity to share with you the cost to that or the impact to its current resources and then you can do the up-down vote if it stays or goes at that point. I'd also like to recognize that the department heads are here. to answer your question. So if there's an item on here that doesn't make any sense, for our needs clarification because it's abbreviated. In the staff report, they're here to give clarification or answer questions that you may have on the status of that. You'll see the attachments list of the 52 items. in alphabetical order to help you identify projects that may be important to you. I will note the Community Development Director, Jeremy Graves, noted that there's a repeat, and I may have just misinterpreted an item here. Number 44 and number 46, from our understanding, is the same item. So we would remove item 44, and so you're now down to 51 if a member of the council or the community has a different understanding of what 44 may mean, then they can bring that one back on there. But from staff's interpretation, 44 and 46 are the same item. I have the list of the Park and Rec Commission and the Sustainability Commission, although I know that they were continuing to discuss this item at their latest meeting. And then we have an update of the existing priority calendar updated as of April 15, 2011. And those are only the items that are above the line, which are the top 25. And then last attachment is the entirety of the priority calendar. list which lists all 44 that were approved last year when we went through this process. With that, I would be happy to answer any questions of the council. and make the department heads that are here tonight available to you. to answer any questions that you may have. Thank you. |
| 02:35:46.39 | Mike Kelly | So to be 100% clear, we're just adding I don't know. And not debating whether items should be on or ranking them or anything else? Thank you. |
| 02:35:56.02 | Adam Politzer | That's at the discretion of the council in If you see something that's on the list that you think should be removed immediately. then the council always has that discretion to do that. If you see an item that's not on the list, Um, and you want to raise it for consideration, and you the three other council members that are here tonight disagree with disagree with you, they can also say we don't think that should be on. but I guess for time's sake. You'll have the opportunity to do this on May 3rd So any item that you removed tonight The same council member or community member may ask for it to be reconsidered, so I would Just add items to the list and try to avoid the great debate of what stays on until the May 3rd meeting. Thank you. |
| 02:36:46.16 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Any other, any council questions? This time here, let's open it up to the public. for that. |
| 02:36:59.64 | Leslie Rose | Good evening. My name is Leslie Rose and I'm a board member with the Friends of Saucelito Community Gardens. And I'm here tonight with a couple of other board members. We actually have a mailing list of about 300 supporters, but since you had such a crowded agenda, we decided not to invite them to come tonight because just standing and waiting can be time consuming. I'm actually here tonight to repeat a request that we made in February, and that is to be asked to be moved above the line on your priority calendar. We actually asked to be put on the list last year, and you agreed to that. We are at a stage where we really need to spend some time with staff to review the very detailed proposal that we've developed. you And in order to do that, of course, we need to be above the line. And just to remind you, we've been doing research, planning, and developing a very detailed proposal for the last two years. You all have a very detailed proposal that reflects all the work we've done in speaking to all the local Marin Community Gardens, talking to people across the country that run them to learn what works and what doesn't. And as a result, we've developed bylaws, garden rules, membership contracts. We've also, in addition to our board, established a nonprofit. We have subcommittees that deal with membership, site design, fundraising, and something else. Communications, that's me. In addition to that, we've also developed a very strategic fundraising list. We have a list of potential donors from individuals who are interested in supporting something like this, as well as a list of individual businesses who are ready to give us materials or contributions in kind. We've also developed a target list of grants that we think we'd be eligible for, both from private and public sources. As I mentioned, we've got a mailing list of more than 300 folks who are interested in supporting us. We have a website. We've had very positive media coverage. So we look forward to having you grant our request to be placed above the line so that we continue to work with you. And by the way, we are budget neutral. Thank you. |
| 02:39:01.02 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, Leslie. |
| 02:39:02.12 | Leslie Rose | Thank you. |
| 02:39:03.77 | Herb Weiner | Any other shots? |
| 02:39:05.98 | Jacques Oman | Thank you. Jacques Oman, Chairman of the Board of Friends of Dunphy Park. I just want to reinforce the letter that I sent you in late mail that requests that you set in motion the process of developing a master plan for Dunphy Park by hiring a facilitator to put together a public workshop process to get public input so that all the public's desires for the park can be formulated in such a way that a design professional could develop a master plan. We've actually made this request over a several year period, and maybe now the time has come to really have it happen. We have the newly purchased land. I say newly, now time passes. It's been a number of years, but the railroad right of way and the peninsula property that now some people are very impatient to see something happen on it and so we don't want the wrong things to happen. I think the time has really come to think about the park as a whole and you and the old and make it all work. Also, there are other things happening in the neighboring properties that could affect what happens at Dunphy Park. The temporary police site is now vacant, and that needs to be taken into account. So we do request that maybe it really is time to think about the master plan. |
| 02:39:39.92 | Jeremy Graves | Thank you. |
| 02:40:39.27 | Mike Kelly | Can I ask a question? Go ahead. Jacques? Jacques? |
| 02:40:40.87 | Jacques Oman | Go ahead. |
| 02:40:43.25 | Mike Kelly | A couple questions. One is somebody has put on this list central waterfront master plan. |
| 02:40:50.49 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah, that was me last year. Which would incorporate that whole stretch of waterfront, not just the parking. |
| 02:40:51.26 | Mike Kelly | Bless you. Okay. |
| 02:40:57.09 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 02:40:57.12 | Mike Kelly | Okay. Would that, is this a perfect enemy of the good kind of problem? Should we just limit it to Dunphy Park just to get that ball rolling? I don't think so. We're going to talk about that first. That's a question. That's a question I have. Could I make a comment? |
| 02:40:57.14 | Jonathan Leone | No shit. |
| 02:40:57.51 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:41:07.77 | Jonathan Leone | I don't think so. We can talk about that first. |
| 02:41:11.13 | Jacques Oman | Could I make a comment on that? I mean, I think that it might be important to consider the land that the city owns and to master plan that and avoid any political issues that might be involved in extending the planning beyond that. Not that I'm against larger planning, but I think that we've been delaying this now and it's becoming rather urgent. |
| 02:41:12.75 | Mike Kelly | Yeah. |
| 02:41:36.84 | Mike Kelly | Do you have any clue about a budget |
| 02:41:41.42 | Jacques Oman | Well, really only a clue. I don't know how much a facilitator, I mean, I think it's a two-phase thing. I think that a facilitator, not a design professional, is the first person to use who can organize the public workshop process. And that may only be, you know, 10, I don't know, under $10,000 or, I don't know, a few thousand dollars. Now, a design professional putting together a master plan, of course, that could be $20,000 or $30,000, I suppose. I mean, I'm just top of my head, but you ask me the question. |
| 02:42:13.48 | Mike Kelly | Yes, ma'am. Good. Thank you. |
| 02:42:16.10 | Jacques Oman | Thank you. |
| 02:42:16.11 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:42:16.13 | Jacques Oman | Okay. |
| 02:42:16.25 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you, Sheriff. Mostly. |
| 02:42:20.35 | Leslie Rose | I actually forgot something. |
| 02:42:21.85 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:42:21.87 | Herb Weiner | No. |
| 02:42:22.15 | Leslie Rose | I just want to remind you, you probably already know this, but on January 19th, we were unanimously recommended by the park and rec. |
| 02:42:22.25 | Herb Weiner | THE FAMILY. |
| 02:42:22.42 | Carolyn Ford | you |
| 02:42:22.48 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:42:22.52 | Carolyn Ford | I'm just wondering. |
| 02:42:23.07 | Herb Weiner | Mind you. |
| 02:42:23.50 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:42:23.54 | Herb Weiner | Yeah. |
| 02:42:23.88 | Carolyn Ford | I hope we already know. |
| 02:42:31.00 | Leslie Rose | Commission to move forward to the City Council. We had so much support that we actually set records for attendance, apparently beating out the time they actually offered free cookies. So I just wanted to do that too. |
| 02:42:42.05 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah. |
| 02:42:42.17 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:42:42.27 | Carolyn Ford | I'll do that too. Thanks. |
| 02:42:44.72 | Herb Weiner | Organic cookies. Okay. Any other? Okay, let's bring it back up here. Oh, Ray, Ray's got his own. Sorry, Ray. |
| 02:42:46.47 | Jonathan Leone | . |
| 02:42:51.60 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:42:51.62 | Unknown | with it. |
| 02:42:51.97 | Jonathan Leone | Oh, right. |
| 02:42:52.58 | Unknown | Let's go. Thanks, sir. Thank you. |
| 02:43:00.44 | Ray Gerges | I'm not sure if I'm part of the public or since I'm chairman of the Sustainability Commission, but I do ask that. You've had it in the furniture. |
| 02:43:06.32 | Herb Weiner | You've had it the furniture. Huh? You've had it the furniture. Huh. |
| 02:43:10.58 | Ray Gerges | Ugh. Ugh. I, uh... I want to address page 10 of the staff report, which contains the priority calendar from the Sustainability Commission. And whoever put this together did a remarkably good job, because the piece of paper that got into the hands of that person from the Sustainability Commission, the piece of paper was a big mess. Thank you. It was simply a shopping list that the commission was going to discuss and establish its own priority list. We didn't get a chance to do that because I delayed our meeting from last Thursday to this coming Thursday on account of the volunteer tonight. So we haven't had a chance to do all that good stuff yet. But I would like to make a couple of comments regarding the items that are on this list Number two, the second item, it says VCRS versus other collectors. I don't know what that means. So that didn't come from any of our list. So I would say for now, it should be deleted. The other item, community garden. We have been strongly in favor of it. We submitted a letter to that effect already, and we considered our part of the business to be completed. We had no intention of pursuing that any further except to support it. |
| 02:44:37.90 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:44:39.18 | Ray Gerges | The other item that I don't think we're going to consider action on our part is further down the list, sewer laterals. It has come up on previous commission meetings, but I'm sure that we have no... desire to pursue that, it becomes a debate whether it becomes of our purview anyway. So we have other things that we can spend our time on. Ugh. The remarkable item is the last one, zero waste JPA. We have not even considered doing anything with that, but I I now consider it you a vital item of our interest. And I'm going to make sure that as the chair that we're going to be talking about it probably beginning, not our next meeting, but the follow-on meeting. Yes. Thank you. Uh, The portable restrooms in Dumpy Park, this came out of one of our members as strictly an idea. Frankly, I don't consider it part of our purview. I consider it part of Parks and Rec. But it got on this list, and I would say, as far as I'm concerned, it can stay there. The one thing I would like to add that's not on this list |
| 02:46:05.19 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 02:46:05.60 | Ray Gerges | Sit down. That's enough. |
| 02:46:06.08 | Unknown | That's enough. |
| 02:46:07.03 | Philip Snead | No, you got it. |
| 02:46:07.10 | Unknown | I'm sorry. Thank you. |
| 02:46:08.97 | Philip Snead | Thank you. |
| 02:46:09.07 | Ray Gerges | I've got nine items in here. That gives me 27 minutes, I think. |
| 02:46:09.11 | Unknown | I've got it. |
| 02:46:09.97 | Jonathan Leone | out yet. |
| 02:46:10.47 | Philip Snead | I agree. Thank you. |
| 02:46:12.08 | Jonathan Leone | 27 minutes, I think. |
| 02:46:13.41 | Philip Snead | Thank you. |
| 02:46:14.73 | Ray Gerges | Huh. You have to keep in mind that I consider some of the members of our commission to be free thinkers and good thinkers. They come up with Great ideas. And an idea that that was mentioned to me, aside from our meetings, just in a matter of days ago, was the result of the Japanese, the great Japanese earthquake. And the idea was for the city of Sausalito to consider which she identified as a reverse 911 system. I didn't know what she was talking about. but it refers to emergencies that come up. And I understand that some of the cities in Marin County have incorporated such a system. What it means is that when an emergency is known, that the telephone system exists within the city that's, the calls can be made to the citizenry. That is a very interesting idea. not within our purview, but nevertheless, it's an interesting idea, and I respect my commissioners for having ideas of that nature. So I strongly suspect we may submit a supplement to this to make this May 3rd meeting that maybe puts into writing what I've just addressed to you tonight. Thank you. |
| 02:47:39.88 | Jonathan Leone | Thanks, Rick. |
| 02:47:40.58 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Jim, is that correct? Jim, is that correct on that system? |
| 02:47:42.16 | Ray Gerges | you Thank you. |
| 02:47:44.79 | Herb Weiner | Yes, the gen system is already |
| 02:47:46.96 | Jacques Oman | Thank you. |
| 02:47:47.83 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:47:47.98 | Jacques Oman | Thank you. |
| 02:47:48.09 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Okay, thank you. Okay, any other comments from the public? Okay, let's bring it back up here. Any comments? It's just informational, is that correct? |
| 02:48:00.82 | Linda Pfeifer | information on exactly right. My comment would be to, I'm not sure if we decided to do this. I think there's support. |
| 02:48:08.19 | Jonathan Leone | I think there's support. You gave us some guidance of whether you wanted us to add, subtract, debate, And then come back on the third, your guidance was what? |
| 02:48:17.37 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah. |
| 02:48:17.44 | Jacques Oman | Yeah. |
| 02:48:20.83 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 02:48:20.88 | Linda Pfeifer | to add. |
| 02:48:21.25 | Jonathan Leone | To add. |
| 02:48:21.41 | Jacques Oman | to end. Yeah. |
| 02:48:22.74 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:48:22.79 | Jacques Oman | Thank you. |
| 02:48:22.89 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah. |
| 02:48:22.91 | Jacques Oman | Thank you. |
| 02:48:22.96 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:48:22.98 | Jacques Oman | Yeah. |
| 02:48:22.99 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 02:48:23.04 | Carolyn Ford | So, |
| 02:48:23.04 | Linda Pfeifer | So I was just going to add Jacques' point, the facilitated master plan for Dunphy Park. |
| 02:48:30.35 | Herb Weiner | Yeah, exactly. Okay. I wrote that down myself. you |
| 02:48:36.00 | Linda Pfeifer | Okay. |
| 02:48:36.86 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 02:48:37.81 | Linda Pfeifer | Do we need to take a formal vote on that? |
| 02:48:37.86 | Herb Weiner | What do you mean? |
| 02:48:40.75 | Jonathan Leone | No, we're just talking about it. |
| 02:48:41.20 | Herb Weiner | No, no, we're just adding it on. |
| 02:48:41.93 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:48:41.94 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 02:48:41.99 | Linda Pfeifer | Just adding it on. |
| 02:48:44.61 | Jonathan Leone | I'm just adding it over here. |
| 02:48:45.62 | Linda Pfeifer | We don't need to vote to add. |
| 02:48:45.66 | Jonathan Leone | WE DON'T KNOW. |
| 02:48:48.14 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 02:48:48.79 | Mike Kelly | The only thing I would say is... Adam, number 44 and 46, the second dwelling unit regulation belongs to the HECC thing. So I think it should be combined with HECC, which is on the previous page. That's part and parcel of what we're doing, looking at that possibility. Versus I don't think it belongs to the second family dwelling units. That's only an issue. |
| 02:48:58.53 | John Trouth | Thank you. |
| 02:48:58.57 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:48:58.58 | John Trouth | There's a... didn't it? |
| 02:49:08.81 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah, I mean, I... Yeah, this is to revise the second dwelling, the granting unit, to rescind the band of second units. That's what this one is. |
| 02:49:13.42 | Mike Kelly | Mr. President. |
| 02:49:17.82 | Mike Kelly | Sure. |
| 02:49:18.44 | Linda Pfeifer | Sure. Yeah. And it's different from. |
| 02:49:24.26 | Jonathan Leone | It's different from, and it's rephrased properly, it should be R2, R2, R3 for the single family. |
| 02:49:30.46 | Mike Kelly | I'm sorry. Right? |
| 02:49:34.78 | Jonathan Leone | They're different. |
| 02:49:36.33 | Mike Kelly | It's your game. Say yes or no. |
| 02:49:40.23 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 02:49:40.25 | Mike Kelly | I can't make it. |
| 02:49:40.26 | Jonathan Leone | You're giving us a stink eye up here. |
| 02:49:42.95 | Jeremy Graves | The second dwelling unit, also known as the accessory dwelling unit, that we're looking to have as an implementation measure out of the housing element. Yes, right. That's what I'm going to tell you. What's better said? That's why we suggested that it was inappropriate here. Number 46 is an ongoing item with the standards for single-family dwellings and multifamily zones, and we have a subcommittee of the planning commission working on that right now and that is on the priority calendar that we currently the council is currently adopting. |
| 02:49:52.80 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:49:52.83 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:49:52.87 | Mike Kelly | Yes, that's what I'm attempting to say. Much better said. |
| 02:49:56.38 | John Trouth | Thank you. |
| 02:50:12.49 | Mike Kelly | The council is currently at us. You said that so much better than we do. |
| 02:50:17.42 | Jeremy Graves | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:50:17.47 | Mike Kelly | Thank you, Jeremy. |
| 02:50:17.54 | Jeremy Graves | Thank you, Joe. |
| 02:50:17.98 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 02:50:18.08 | Jeremy Graves | you you |
| 02:50:18.35 | Jonathan Leone | I have a very long list. How do you want to handle that? Want me to give it to you or submit it right? |
| 02:50:21.88 | Mike Kelly | Yes. Yeah. No, why don't you save them so we're going on. |
| 02:50:25.93 | Jonathan Leone | All right. Okay. |
| 02:50:30.36 | Unknown | We're in ship |
| 02:50:30.91 | Mike Kelly | Yeah. |
| 02:50:31.02 | Unknown | give it to him. |
| 02:50:31.70 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:50:31.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:50:31.83 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:50:31.87 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:50:31.88 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:50:32.44 | Jonathan Leone | Okay, you can have it. Marinship Historic District. I'll repeat the center waterfront master plan. I think it's better to have a more encompassing central waterfront. |
| 02:50:33.74 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 02:50:33.81 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:50:33.82 | Carolyn Ford | you |
| 02:50:33.88 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:50:47.93 | Adam Politzer | It's important if you tell us that these are new. These are all, I'll tell you everything. |
| 02:50:50.40 | Jonathan Leone | These are all, I'll tell you, they're repeats. How about that? All the rest of them are new. Review of city fleet vehicle replacement fund and needs. Local composting. Reuse of stormwater. MLK solar energy generation plan. free three-hour parking for Marin City and Houseboro residents. |
| 02:51:21.93 | Adam Politzer | Hold on one second, going real quick there, but just on... Number 27 is the green energy generation, so that's... |
| 02:51:26.12 | Jonathan Leone | Number two. |
| 02:51:30.19 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. I thought that was just the old things we had here. Well, let's relabel it this way because that's more of a specific project than city needs. That would be to generate more than what we needed. |
| 02:51:33.68 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 02:51:44.65 | Jonathan Leone | And that's not for us to do, it's just taking, I'll explain it at a later date. Okay, free three-hour parking for city lots for Marin City and houseboat residents. the RBRA mooring field put back that on the list to consider |
| 02:52:10.45 | Jonathan Leone | to clarify one that is on the list. That's the public policy for public use, for private use of public lands, particularly underwater streets. |
| 02:52:25.84 | Jonathan Leone | smoking regulations, outdoor smoking regulations, and in multi-unit dwellings. |
| 02:52:33.94 | Jonathan Leone | One that was on the list last year that we didn't end up acting on, we took the money and allocated somewhere else, was the park improvement update study and budget. |
| 02:52:48.07 | Jonathan Leone | review of city services in light of ongoing consolidation pressures So we can plan ahead instead of react. School board quarterly reports. Have the school board come here, tell us what's happening. Public-Private Partnership Pacific Lab Building. |
| 02:53:12.43 | Jonathan Leone | full determination of who owns the streets in the marineship. |
| 02:53:14.27 | Mike Kelly | Yeah. Go back to that one just for a second. Under number three, it's an Army Corps of Engineers building, restoration and preservation. Did you mean the VA building on that one? Yeah. So it's number three. Okay. That's funny. |
| 02:53:27.86 | Jonathan Leone | Okay, that's funny. It's a straight Army Corps. I thought it was something else. |
| 02:53:30.73 | Mike Kelly | Yeah, me too. So that. |
| 02:53:33.02 | Jonathan Leone | Firehouse number two. |
| 02:53:35.33 | Mike Kelly | Oh, yeah. Thank you. |
| 02:53:37.24 | Jonathan Leone | electric charging station that I think they're grant funds for this so you can actually get the free charging station in front of the firehouse. They're working on that. Police department, I mean? Yeah. Um. |
| 02:53:43.23 | Unknown | They're worth it. Yeah. |
| 02:53:48.59 | Jonathan Leone | Review of recycling policies from single stream recycling to multi-stream. low water use irrigation for city properties. and daylight underground streams and the The last one that I think that just bears some clarification from the previous priority calendar |
| 02:54:21.35 | Jonathan Leone | So that last one, the irrigation one, that was City Hall. That was labeled before water efficiency policy. So let's change the name. That was on the last one. Okay, that's enough for one night. I think it's good to just dump stuff out there because we at least get them, even though we're going to limit these down to something we can actually accomplish. So we have a list to keep referring to year after year and take stuff off the list and keep adding stuff on. |
| 02:54:48.30 | John Trouth | Thank you. |
| 02:54:48.33 | Adam Politzer | so we have |
| 02:54:56.20 | Adam Politzer | Is that for the record that you're saying that this is a good process? Thank you. |
| 02:54:59.59 | Jonathan Leone | Is there a secret? Well, the funny thing is, three years ago, I don't think that. I'll give you that. That's enough for me. Anybody else? |
| 02:55:00.72 | Carolyn Ford | The funny thing is... |
| 02:55:02.24 | Adam Politzer | that will be a three years ago i don't think that |
| 02:55:06.83 | John Trouth | laughter Thank you. |
| 02:55:08.45 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:55:08.75 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah. |
| 02:55:08.82 | Unknown | I'll give you that. |
| 02:55:15.55 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:55:15.57 | Unknown | I'm good, I'm okay. |
| 02:55:18.64 | Herb Weiner | you |
| 02:55:18.69 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:55:18.81 | Jonathan Leone | It's not on here, it's ongoing, is the ferry landing. with the Golden Gate. |
| 02:55:29.14 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 02:55:32.43 | Herb Weiner | I think I'd make a presentation. Yes. |
| 02:55:37.42 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 02:55:37.44 | Herb Weiner | Yeah, happy camera. |
| 02:55:37.49 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah, I have to come up. |
| 02:55:39.92 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:55:40.00 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 02:55:41.71 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. Thank you. you |
| 02:55:42.55 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Right. |
| 02:55:45.03 | Alice Merrill | public dock that boats can come in and out of and, you know, like charter boats can come in and out of. |
| 02:55:50.79 | Jonathan Leone | Can you state your name for the record, please? Oh, my name is? |
| 02:55:52.09 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. Oh, my name is Alice Merrill. |
| 02:55:53.17 | Jonathan Leone | Marilis Merrill. |
| 02:55:53.86 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. He's calling me out. |
| 02:55:55.76 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 02:55:55.78 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:55:55.88 | Alice Merrill | PO Box 357. A public doc, maybe even two. |
| 02:55:58.70 | Herb Weiner | I Maybe even Social Security number? |
| 02:56:12.39 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Thank you. Anybody else? Okay, let's bring it back up. And I think that's done. |
| 02:56:20.74 | Ray Gerges | Okay. |
| 02:56:23.47 | Herb Weiner | Next item I guess we can flow into, and that's the update on the downtown bathroom. Thank you. Oh, what's up today? |
| 02:56:29.04 | Jonathan Leone | So just to reiterate the process, so people are willing to come so they know what the next step of this is. Even though you said it before, just sort of. |
| 02:56:40.30 | Adam Politzer | Absolutely. Thank you. So, tonight we completed the first round of the process, which was to collect the various ideas and projects for consideration. You heard Sustainability Commissioner Ray Gerges, chair of their commission, share that they will be probably revising their list. Thank you for the compliment, Ray. Jonathan, Goldman, and myself went through your list. That was on the agenda. that they will be probably revising their list. Thank you for the compliment, Ray. Jonathan Goldman and myself went through your list that was on the agenda. added anything, we may have changed the wording to maybe broaden it a little bit. But you definitely had a very exciting list for the sustainability commission and I wish you all well on that the other Commission's that I mentioned earlier HLB the Planning Commission uh... that sort of uh... The Hospitality Committee and the Business Advisory Committee will also all be submitting information And I think folks that were not able to make tonight's meeting I'll be encouraged to come forward. So between now and May 3rd, the staff will now take this information that we receive. we anticipate receiving the information from those five board members, board or commissions that have yet to get their information complete. but we should have that and be able to incorporate there recommendations into the staff's exercise of identifying if we can take on the projects considering our current workload and other projects that we are trying to conclude and then and then associate a cost with that so that the council at the May 3rd meeting will now see this list probably Uh, We had 52, and Jonathan added another 52. And so when we look at the entirety of this list, we will be able to give you what the dollar amounts are, and then the public will have another opportunity to weigh in. The council will then. take that night to debate the merits of each of those items and then move forward to the final stage, which is rankings. |
| 02:58:55.91 | Jonathan Leone | Question for you, given that the library's going to come back with their space study, given the work that was done before on, with the, what was the name of the committee? Sheik? Sheik, yes. Will more work be needed to sort of shuffle those cards, there's only so much room. Would that need to be? A separate project that comes back off of the library project is to kind of reallocate space if so decided. |
| 02:59:27.68 | Adam Politzer | So on this list here there are There are two. There's the library facility space evaluation study and in the budget process we'll be coming forward with a recommendation for this year. So that will come through as more of a capital project rather than a priority project. Then there will be, and I can't see it on the list because I don't remember how I listed it, but there is a city hall. looking at how the entire space here is used, both the public meeting space, the restrooms, and then the office space. And I don't see it jumping out at me, but it is on the list. |
| 03:00:07.88 | John Trouth | CHU. |
| 03:00:09.02 | Jonathan Leone | that all day. |
| 03:00:09.75 | Carolyn Ford | It is. |
| 03:00:10.07 | Herb Weiner | It is. |
| 03:00:12.45 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:00:12.47 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 03:00:14.39 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:00:14.59 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:00:14.75 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:00:14.95 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:00:15.10 | Unknown | you |
| 03:00:15.18 | Herb Weiner | Okay. The next item. Okay, bathrooms. Thank you for coming. Thank you. |
| 03:00:20.82 | Mike Kelly | Okay, bathrooms. Bathroom subcommittee is Missing one member A week ago last Friday, we met with Jonathan Goldman and and John Flavin, myself, Carolyn Ford. And we gave specific instructions to Jonathan to investigate the portable trailer called Royal Restrooms, which he is doing, because I got a call from the guy. And the other was to, on parallel tracks, look for a quote, permanent temporary structure, which I think we were pursuing them through RomTech was the company we decided to go with. And so at that, I'll give it over to Jonathan if you have anything else to say, or do we need to? |
| 03:01:20.96 | Carolyn Ford | I'll see you right there. |
| 03:01:24.64 | Mike Kelly | Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, we did. Bill structure would fit into the permanent, permanent category as opposed to the permanent interim category. But it's a worthy addition to our discussion. |
| 03:01:42.19 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:01:42.23 | Jonathan Goldman | Da-da! Mr. Mayor, Mr. Vice Mayor, members of council and staff, just to fill in a few of the details behind the Vice Mayor's report, I've requested quotations on rental units that are apples to apples as best I could from three different firms. I have one already. I'm waiting for the Royal Restrooms quote, and I'm also waiting for a third. In addition, one of the advantages to RomTech as a vendor that is worth mentioning is that they have a federal contract for fabrication of those facilities. And assuming that we can get them to price what the community wants to have for the interim restroom under that contract, we would not be required to competitively bid the procurement. The other thing to mention is that I have retained a civil designer, Sandus out of Oakland, to help with start the site work planning because as councils and community may recall, one of the key issues that initiated this project is the need for access, accessible access to the public restrooms on that site. And no matter what we end up with for a building, that access, that hardscape, is going to have to be constructed as part of it. So they have agreed to a $1,500 fee to gather the information that we already had available and looking at the site and knowing that we're looking at a prefabricated unit, start laying the groundwork, no pun intended, for that project. |
| 03:03:56.09 | Mike Kelly | And we would like to come back to the council on May 3rd with package, program, timeline, and get for the temporary stuff and get your approval so we can move forward. |
| 03:04:09.09 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:04:09.14 | Linda Pfeifer | Right. |
| 03:04:09.39 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:04:09.95 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:04:10.41 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:04:10.42 | Mike Kelly | Thank you, John. |
| 03:04:10.47 | Linda Pfeifer | Jonathan, I have a quick question. So we're talking about, I heard two prefab buildings or no, just one. I heard a trailer or. |
| 03:04:11.17 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:04:19.48 | Mike Kelly | Just one. I heard a trailer or? Temporary trailer system, which would be part someplace in the vicinity of where the current restroom is, probably not on site because we're doing site work simultaneously with its existence. And then that would go away and the other building would take off. |
| 03:04:42.55 | Linda Pfeifer | the pre-fem, lid cam, |
| 03:04:44.65 | Mike Kelly | It's more or less prefab. It's actually custom made to our situation, but it's modular. |
| 03:04:48.20 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:04:49.81 | Linda Pfeifer | And my next question is, thank you. I just wanted to clarify that. And my next question is, I was just looking at the proposal from Bill Werner. Have you had a chance? I just got this. So if you had a chance to look. It looks very nice. |
| 03:04:59.26 | Carolyn Ford | BILL. |
| 03:05:00.32 | John Trouth | Thank you. |
| 03:05:05.65 | Jonathan Goldman | I had enough time to look at it and send him a personal reply, which was yay. Thank you. |
| 03:05:15.07 | Mike Kelly | It looks like the ice house. What we're talking about. It looks like the ice house. Yeah, that's the thing. It talks about the federal contract thing. It gets us out of a sticky wicket. This puts us in. This one goes back into the sticky wicket. Well, that would be a permanent solution. That's a permanent solution. We have to go out and bail us. We can still pick, but we have to go out and do the whole bidding process. Whereas the track we're on now is we don't have to do that. |
| 03:05:18.19 | Jonathan Goldman | Thank you. |
| 03:05:20.22 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 03:05:20.23 | Carolyn Ford | It looks like the ice ice. |
| 03:05:21.11 | Herb Weiner | Yes. |
| 03:05:21.20 | Carolyn Ford | Yeah, that's the thing. |
| 03:05:29.74 | Jonathan Leone | THE FAMILY. |
| 03:05:32.60 | John Trouth | Thank you. |
| 03:05:32.64 | Jonathan Leone | And the 1128. |
| 03:05:33.92 | Carolyn Ford | you |
| 03:05:33.97 | John Trouth | Thank you. |
| 03:05:37.26 | Carolyn Ford | you |
| 03:05:37.34 | Jonathan Leone | Whereas, |
| 03:05:43.44 | Jonathan Leone | Would, do you know, and Jeremy left so he doesn't have the answer, so You don't know the zoning of how that building is owned. |
| 03:05:57.00 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:05:57.06 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:05:57.22 | Jonathan Leone | No, sir. No. There's a lot of stories in there. |
| 03:05:57.36 | Jonathan Goldman | NO SERIES. |
| 03:05:58.35 | Herb Weiner | No. There's a lot of stories in there. |
| 03:06:04.55 | Jonathan Leone | Michael Rex had brought up a long time ago kind of an idea of different sort of multi-use facility there. And I actually was approached by a firm that probably doesn't like me so much about the multi-use coffee shop at that location |
| 03:06:27.55 | Unknown | That only makes you go faster. Is that your local non-chip? I'm not going to go into that. |
| 03:06:27.62 | Jonathan Leone | That only makes you go faster. I could go into that. Could be a way to find some private funds that could trigger all that other stuff. But that would be in the second stage of the solution. |
| 03:06:38.35 | Mike Kelly | I think that would be... Then you trigger all that other stuff. Would that be in the second stage of the solution set? That would be the permanent permanent, which would incorporate Bill's idea and others. Right. What do you call it? |
| 03:06:43.09 | Carolyn Ford | Bye. |
| 03:06:43.16 | Jonathan Leone | that's it. |
| 03:06:43.24 | Carolyn Ford | So, |
| 03:06:43.38 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:06:43.39 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:06:44.36 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:06:44.41 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:06:44.46 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:06:44.47 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:06:44.58 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:06:44.59 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:06:44.64 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:06:46.82 | Jonathan Leone | right right Yeah. |
| 03:06:48.34 | John Trouth | . |
| 03:06:48.51 | Unknown | you can call. |
| 03:06:48.96 | John Trouth | Russian slush. |
| 03:06:49.62 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:06:49.64 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. Well, didn't we discuss this earlier where we kind of concurred that we wanted to just, you know, pick this location and fulfill the ADA requirement? And so with respect to your comment about the sticky wicket, you're saying with a requirement for open bids for RFPs? Okay, so... |
| 03:07:00.86 | Unknown | you |
| 03:07:14.68 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:07:14.70 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:07:14.80 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:07:18.43 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:07:18.44 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:07:18.46 | Jonathan Leone | What is the problem with that? |
| 03:07:19.84 | Linda Pfeifer | Yeah, why is it a problem? |
| 03:07:19.88 | Mike Kelly | Yeah. It's just that that's a time consuming issue. |
| 03:07:24.57 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:07:24.86 | Linda Pfeifer | Not necessarily. |
| 03:07:24.89 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:07:24.91 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:07:24.92 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:07:24.94 | Mike Kelly | No. |
| 03:07:25.02 | Jonathan Leone | Not necessarily. For a season that would be difficult to achieve. That would be very difficult. |
| 03:07:29.97 | Mike Kelly | Yeah. |
| 03:07:30.54 | Linda Pfeifer | Well, I mean, but ultimately we need to build a permanent structure. And if that is our goal, it seems prudent to set that as our goal with the timeframe. |
| 03:07:34.51 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:07:34.52 | Mike Kelly | And if that is our goal, it seems |
| 03:07:40.67 | Mike Kelly | I'm just, I'm just. Not a problem. It's just that that doesn't, what we're trying to accomplish here quickly is to get a facility that we can live with while we go through a larger process. |
| 03:07:51.89 | Linda Pfeifer | I understand that. I know that you're recommending we have the trailer as a temporary. That's a temporary solution. That's really fast because the water goes out. |
| 03:08:00.04 | Carolyn Ford | Right. Uh-huh. |
| 03:08:02.10 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. Right. I was thinking initially we were talking about having the trailer as as the initial... solution while we were doing the RFPs and building the permanent structure. |
| 03:08:14.08 | Mike Kelly | building the permanent structure. No, no. Because the, the, the, the trader is very expensive. So it's just. |
| 03:08:20.04 | Linda Pfeifer | So it would be the prefab buildings. |
| 03:08:22.10 | Mike Kelly | not as, you could pay for the prefab building in a fairly short amount of time if you, if it became like the police station for example where six months a year into renting the Royal Restroom, you would pay for, you would have paid for the modular building. So the idea here is the modular building takes three months, they say three months, I pushed them and four would be kind of the outside envelope. So you drop the hammer on both of these things at the same time. The Royal restroom rolls up, we demo the building, the existing building, we start the site work, we are looking at the, engaging the site engineer to do the ADA layouts and all that sort of thing, civil engineer. And you start the site work and three months later, supposedly, if we use ROM tech, ROM tech would have a building existing. At that point, the royal restrooms go away and we have what we call the temporary permanent structure. |
| 03:08:34.80 | Ray Gerges | was not class effective. |
| 03:09:18.09 | John Trouth | Thank you. |
| 03:09:29.23 | Mike Kelly | We could also, during that period of time, start the process, the longer process for the permanent, permanent building. |
| 03:09:29.51 | John Trouth | Thank you. |
| 03:09:36.28 | Linda Pfeifer | So what you're coming back to us with is a cost, you know, the costs associated with this proposal, with having the prefab as opposed to just going for broke and getting this done. I mean, the permanent structure and using the trailer in the interim. |
| 03:09:54.88 | Mike Kelly | Yes, we'll show you a comparison between those two. |
| 03:09:55.50 | Linda Pfeifer | Okay. |
| 03:09:55.72 | Jonathan Leone | Absolutely. |
| 03:09:57.05 | Linda Pfeifer | Okay. Thank you. |
| 03:09:58.00 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:09:58.18 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 03:09:58.23 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:09:58.25 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 03:09:58.27 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:09:58.70 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. Thank you. JOHN? Oh, go ahead, sir. |
| 03:10:00.26 | Jonathan Goldman | Just one point of information to answer a question that I thought I heard Councilmember Pfeiffer ask. The sticky wicket part has to do with the way the competitive process is realized. The advantage to having a federal contract is that the federal government competed their contract. They've selected the lowest price, best value contractor to furnish prefabricated structures. That allows us to rest reasonably comfortably that we're also getting best value. The other alternative would be that we have to do the competitive process. And as the vice mayor suggests, and as you heard earlier this evening, once we have to engage in that process, we have to protect ourselves against a lot of issues that we wouldn't have to if the federal government has already done that for us. There are other, there are state contracts, there are a number of those other purchasing, cooperative purchasing agreements that are typically available to us. Certainly it's our responsibility to look at the price we are actually quoted for what we want to acquire and then verify that we think it does represent best value. |
| 03:10:26.95 | John Trouth | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:11:10.22 | John Trouth | Yeah. |
| 03:11:28.19 | Jonathan Leone | So the earliest You could have a prefab or a replacement for the existing restrooms would be all the pins dropped the way you would want |
| 03:11:38.67 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. into July. |
| 03:11:46.57 | Jonathan Goldman | You're asking me? Yes. I share the vice mayor's optimism. And I don't yet, I mean, there are a number of issues that really still have to be resolved. And I'm personally kind of an incrementalist, and I'm focused on the short-term issues. One, trying to do the detailed schedule and cost estimate that I think is necessary and appropriate, focusing on getting the temporary trailers that would address us taking the existing restrooms out of service. Our intent is as well to try to cover the jazz and blues by the bays needs so that we don't have porta-potties in one place and a trailer in someplace else. And then to focus on getting to consensus or a decision on what the prefabricated structure, what those details are going to be, what the footprint is, the floor plan, architectural details, and get a firm order into RonTech or if we elect to go with a different vendor or a different process, make sure that that happens as quickly as possible. |
| 03:11:49.67 | Mike Kelly | I should |
| 03:11:50.98 | John Trouth | the vice mayor's optimism. |
| 03:12:01.47 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:12:01.56 | John Trouth | RECORDING TO THE FAMILY. |
| 03:13:06.96 | Jonathan Goldman | Thank you. Then assuming that this temporary permanent structure is going to be there you know, for any significant period of time, let's say a year or more, we have a potential design review, planning commission, HLB process that we have to go through to get approval, to get a permit, to have the city grant itself a permit to install this structure. |
| 03:13:40.76 | Jonathan Leone | Okay, so when do you think the earliest you could get a temporary structure in there would be? Would we miss this whole tourist season, do you think? I mean, let's be honest with ourselves. |
| 03:13:45.50 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:13:45.86 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:13:45.88 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:13:45.98 | Mike Kelly | you |
| 03:13:46.15 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:13:48.48 | Mike Kelly | I mean, let's be honest with ourselves. Thank you. If we dropped a hammer on the third, if we could get a consensus on the third, On the fourth, the two of us will go call. RomTech, and drop the hammer on that, RomTech says they would have it installed in three months. Okay. So they make it, they install it. They're pretty much off-the-shelf units. You just pick the design for the outside and what it turns out to be. How about a... |
| 03:14:11.53 | John Trouth | Thank you. |
| 03:14:11.58 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:14:11.88 | John Trouth | Thank you. |
| 03:14:14.92 | Jonathan Leone | How about a cargo shipping container? |
| 03:14:17.69 | Mike Kelly | I've never been. Thank you. |
| 03:14:18.41 | Jonathan Leone | . Thank you. |
| 03:14:20.83 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:14:20.96 | Jonathan Leone | Yes, well, we can do better. Lieutenant Stoukas already worked. We went down that path once. |
| 03:14:21.55 | Mike Kelly | Yes, we can do better. Lieutenant Stugas already. We went down that path once. And this very well could be a structure, although I'm not sure. But it could be a structure where we could take apart and put it in Duffley Park too. That's what we're looking at as well. I'm not sure if that's possible. |
| 03:14:26.29 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:14:26.31 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:14:26.33 | Jonathan Leone | Sorry. |
| 03:14:34.04 | Herb Weiner | That would be interesting. Thank you. |
| 03:14:35.32 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. Still exploring that. |
| 03:14:38.22 | Ray Gerges | Thank you. |
| 03:14:38.24 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, John. |
| 03:14:38.92 | Jonathan Goldman | I have no more to say. Thank you. Thank you. You said a lot. That's good. Watch out. |
| 03:14:40.55 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:14:41.34 | Ray Gerges | Bye. |
| 03:14:41.60 | Herb Weiner | That's good. |
| 03:14:42.97 | Ray Gerges | Thank you. |
| 03:14:43.03 | Herb Weiner | Watch out. Okay. |
| 03:14:46.91 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:14:46.93 | Jonathan Goldman | Thank you. |
| 03:14:46.96 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:14:47.10 | Jonathan Goldman | Okay. |
| 03:14:50.63 | Philip Snead | Thank you. |
| 03:14:52.84 | Herb Weiner | I guess city managers report. You ready for that? Thank you. OK, this will be brief. Thank you very much. |
| 03:14:58.96 | Adam Politzer | Okay, this will be brief. Thank you very much. Good night. Just quickly, we're coming into the budget prime time and the Finance Committee will, over the next month, have a series of meetings with all the departments and go through their budgets. And then obviously we'll be scheduling budget hearings here at the council meeting. We tentatively have meetings starting on the 17th of May at the council level, and those will continue all the way up possibly to the 28th of May. of June, which would be a special meeting if we needed it for to meet that July 1st deadline. In the past, we've had three meetings. At this moment in time, because we're on the second year of a two-year budget, we've not, recommending three meetings. The date that is scheduled right now as the additional meeting is May 24th. That meeting is the one that we plugged in there, but I'll be Um, reviewing this with the Finance Committee meeting to again affirm the schedule of hearings that are necessary at the council level And so we'll go through that and come back on May 3rd. as part of the manager's report on what that schedule will look like so you folks can put that into your calendars so you know what to expect. Um, Thank you. As I've said to the staff and I've said here before, I think it's the most exciting time of the year. It's really where you look at what you're going to do this next year and how you're going to allocate your resources. and combined with the priority calendar process and the budget process and the strategic planning process, it's really an opportunity for us to align our resources with our staffing and move the city forward. in providing exceptional service to our community. Just quick highlights, the volunteer recognition event was a very nice event last week, so thanks to the mayor. for of the fun that he had. and create it fun for everyone else. and to the staff, especially Aaron Stroud, that really did a great job of pulling the event together with her committee. So excellent job and we've heard some nice remarks from folks that attended the event. The last note here is that we are coming into construction and special event season. I got a A smile across my face when the police chief mentioned that he'll be reminding people of the noise ordinance and the decibel level for parties. But that will also go for Jonathan Goldman and his band of merry men out there that are jackhammering and trench digging and and street improvements and all the other work The Public Works Department launches during this time of the year going all the way into alongside with our special events. |
| 03:18:15.17 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:18:15.18 | Adam Politzer | Uh, I do. I would like to take an opportunity to share with the Council Members of the public make comments during open time for Public communications and items that aren't on the agenda that staff does take the opportunity to follow up on it. We obviously don't want to get into a debate or discussion on an item that's not on the agenda, but I want to let you know that there's a number of items including the car that's parked, the truck parked up on cable roadway, where I think that we've extended a lot of staff resources, not just the police department, but the city attorney, the public works, the finance director, because we were taking this on while I was out of the country and Charlie stepped in met with the individual, and a lot of resources have gone We think that we may have Come to a conclusion that we're going to be able to support his request and that process will move through appropriately. The young gentleman that came through at the last meeting that wanted to perform at Itachi Park, he and I had a very Um, positive discussion and as much as I think that the community likes to support live music, there's also a community that would like to enjoy the quality of life that isn't surrounded with music or crowds at every location throughout town. But I encouraged him to meet with the Park and Rec Commission and identify opportunities where it may be appropriate to have what he was suggesting of scheduled entertainment Thank you. and identify opportunities where it may be appropriate to have what he was suggesting of scheduled entertainment that are not during special events at locations other than Itachi Park and see if there is any support at the Park and Rec Commission and really encouraged him to get as what the community garden folks are doing, get resident support. if the residents want to see this type of venue created, then the residents will stand behind the person's efforts. If the residents don't, then it makes it pretty easy for the City Council smile and say thank you for the idea and we'll keep it on the list for future consideration. But I think he has a better understanding of the process as the folks that I think came forward on the stop sign request at Booker and Spencer Avenue. There is a process and the Spring Street folks successfully got through that process with a lot of obstacles in front of staff that didn't support the request and it was the same recommendation that Norm Wolfschlager reviewed many years ago when that same request came through and he looked at the data and said sorry can't do it our Public Works Department a little more creative, and took a little bit more Risk. and we haven't heard any complaints of that stop sign being placed on Spring Street. So I did want to assure you that, yes, there are times where we don't return every phone call or every email as timely as we would like, but I think eventually we get to them. and staff understands that They're important that the public hears from us. I recommend to each of you, as you hear these concerns raised by the public, to just have them call me. And as the council knows, you each hold me accountable. and I take full responsibility to make sure that we're in communication with our public. That concludes my brief report. |
| 03:22:07.03 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah, why don't we invite the school board to come, give us a... update, given all the tumult that's going on over there. And let's hear it from the horse's mouth. Both have the district board as well as the Willow Creek board. Ask them to come and speak. I'd be curious to see what they say. Yes. Thank you. |
| 03:22:27.84 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 03:22:27.85 | Jonathan Leone | you |
| 03:22:27.89 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, it seems like there's consensus up there for that to be on the agenda. It won't be able to be on the May 3rd agenda because it's already packed up, but we'll work with the agenda setting committee to schedule and invite them. |
| 03:22:27.97 | Jonathan Leone | Yes. |
| 03:22:40.53 | Herb Weiner | Okay, I'm excited to bring in the report. |
| 03:22:46.65 | Jonathan Leone | I have one thing. |
| 03:22:48.42 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:22:48.61 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:22:48.63 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:22:48.71 | Carolyn Ford | you Thank you. |
| 03:22:50.03 | Jonathan Leone | This one's actually somewhat, in my mind, serious, and that's the Miranda Energy Authority. People underestimate how much of the actual footwork McGlash did day-to-day running the show. |
| 03:22:50.06 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 03:23:05.40 | Jonathan Leone | He was more or less the CEO of that, and Don was the But given that he was a full-time employee, he had time to devote energy to that level. And there's a myriad of committees that would meet to help decide X, Y, and Z. But he was on all of them. And so the flow of that whole authority is definitely going to change. So I would encourage you to. And there really is no one who could step in the middle of that. I don't care who's appointed. supervisor. It doesn't matter. They don't have that degree of knowledge. So, I would encourage you to maybe get a little bit up to speed, and I'll help you meet with anybody if they want to, just kind of what those dynamics would, what that means for us here at Sausalito. But it's a big hole to fill in that agency for certain. Thank you. Um, And, you know, this is just my own personal point of view as far as the, you know, I think you're all getting approached by different people for a point of view about the supervisor's spot. I don't know if you guys have talked about this before. For me, I'm just, I would stay, my personal point of view is to stay |
| 03:24:27.28 | Unknown | I would. |
| 03:24:27.60 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:24:30.08 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:24:30.15 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:24:30.16 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:24:30.20 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:24:30.49 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. away from recommending anyone at any point in time. If you do have certain points of view, send them to the governor's office instead of |
| 03:24:38.28 | Herb Weiner | Donald Trump. |
| 03:24:39.56 | Jonathan Leone | Good job. Thank you. But you're free to do whatever you want individually. |
| 03:24:41.54 | Herb Weiner | MR. Very, very, very upset. |
| 03:24:44.63 | Jonathan Leone | I'm sorry. |
| 03:24:45.67 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:24:45.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:24:46.03 | Mike Kelly | In the category of future agenda items, to keep this in a good discussion, I would not recommend that our council consider endorsement. Yeah. |
| 03:24:49.84 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah. |
| 03:24:54.41 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah, no, I wouldn't either. That's what I was trying to, and also I would just, it's not an agenda item, but it's more of a, this is committee reports. I would be careful about these serial meetings where people will talk to each one of us individually about a topic. |
| 03:24:54.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:25:09.62 | Jonathan Leone | and want us to come give comments on something. And so I've avoided those, so I would just make us all remember. It doesn't matter if we're in the same room or not. If someone says the same conversation with everybody, it becomes a little problematic. So I just always ask, who else have you talked to? If it's been two people already, then they come here. |
| 03:25:30.66 | Adam Krivacci | you Okay. |
| 03:25:35.10 | Adam Politzer | If we can go back to a manager report because the Council Member Leon made a very good point. not only should there be a future agenda item to invite MEA here, but with Andy Davidson still in the audience and Lily Lansing, who's been working with him and David Weatherford Um, That's our green team, our staff green team, and I know that they have reached, I know I know. personally that David's been reaching out to MEA to get more information on what the Green Team and the Sustainability Commission can do in those efforts, but I do strongly recommend that we ask MEA and Don Weiss to come and Uh, Give an update to the council |
| 03:26:17.89 | Jonathan Leone | I'm not saying it's a panic situation. I think things are pretty well in hand. the policies going forward that I think that's going to to, I mean, we're going to be voting pretty soon on whether to, on some generation projects. I think that process is pretty well in hand. They're not necessarily going to be local |
| 03:26:37.54 | Adam Politzer | But to your point, there's a void right now, and no one knows there's going to be filled. I don't know what you can say in the short run. |
| 03:26:39.86 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah, I don't know what she could say in the short run to you. It's more... |
| 03:26:47.26 | Ray Gerges | Where's the other question? |
| 03:26:49.21 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah, I mean, I had my, yeah. Yes and no. I think in the interim it won't be as pyramid-like as it was because there's just no one who could take that role. you know? |
| 03:27:10.34 | Vicki Nichols | Because you do have an agenda tomorrow, I just want to remind you, and I hope that the council will be able to attend the rollout for the historic guidelines tomorrow at 6.30, I think it is, here. And the consultant will be here, so you'll be able to review the draft and take public comments. |
| 03:27:28.65 | Jonathan Leone | How long are you participating in meeting B? |
| 03:27:34.69 | Vicki Nichols | A couple hours maybe? |
| 03:27:36.30 | Jonathan Leone | I won't be able to stay for the whole thing. |
| 03:27:38.61 | Vicki Nichols | It's up online. Debbie put the document up online. |
| 03:27:45.48 | Mike Kelly | I got a call from Mark Prado this afternoon. He was writing an article, apparently, for tomorrow's paper on our historic guidelines. Okay, I need help. |
| 03:27:53.59 | Vicki Nichols | He was gonna write something. |
| 03:27:55.63 | Mike Kelly | as |
Bunny Zaruba — In Favor: Requested stop signs on both sides of Booker-Spencer intersection, citing speeding, collisions, and neighbor support. ▶ 📄
Susan Rogier — In Favor: Shared personal challenges with the intersection and submitted a petition with 14 signatures from CloudView and Booker residents. ▶ 📄
Philip Snead — In Favor: Emphasized safety for young families, recounted past accidents, and noted structural damage from speeding vehicles, supporting a stop sign. ▶ 📄