| Time | Speaker | Text |
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| 00:00:01.58 | Herb Weiner | uh... everybody please be seated Welcome to the Tuesday, October 18, 2011 meeting. And at this time here, roll call, please. |
| 00:00:14.44 | Unknown | Council member Pfeiffer? Here. |
| 00:00:15.74 | Linda Pfeifer | Here. |
| 00:00:16.38 | Unknown | Councilmember Ford? Here. Councilmember Leon? |
| 00:00:20.15 | Herb Weiner | HERE. |
| 00:00:20.87 | Unknown | by Smyr Kelly. |
| 00:00:22.04 | Herb Weiner | Yeah. |
| 00:00:22.15 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:22.19 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:00:22.20 | Unknown | Mayor Weiner. |
| 00:00:23.23 | Herb Weiner | present. At this time here, I have the pledge. Buddy, you want to lead us with the pledge, please? |
| 00:00:36.11 | Herb Weiner | Congratulations. |
| 00:00:36.92 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. |
| 00:00:37.05 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:00:37.17 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. |
| 00:00:37.34 | Herb Weiner | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:00:37.61 | Eric Abdullah | Amen. |
| 00:00:37.97 | Herb Weiner | Amen. |
| 00:00:38.45 | Eric Abdullah | United States of America. |
| 00:00:39.94 | Herb Weiner | Amen. |
| 00:00:40.70 | Eric Abdullah | to the Republic for which it stands. my nation. are. the result. and the ability and justice for all. |
| 00:00:48.58 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you. Bye. Thank you. Thank you. you We did not have any closed session items, so we'll move on to approval of the agenda. |
| 00:01:00.51 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:01:09.42 | Herb Weiner | So- |
| 00:01:09.50 | Carolyn Ford | Mr. Mayor? |
| 00:01:10.23 | Herb Weiner | Yes. |
| 00:01:11.65 | Carolyn Ford | I would like to ask that item 6A, which is the Rotary Housing item, be moved from the Business Items category to Special Presentations. This item has no background information, either for the public or the City Council, and should not be considered a business item for the Council. There is no proper staff report. There has been no explanation as to what is being proposed so that the public and council can weigh in. And so council should not be taking any action, including giving direction to staff. For that reason, it belongs under special presentations, in my opinion. |
| 00:01:56.05 | Linda Pfeifer | Mr. Mayor? May I comment as well? I agree with the Councilmember Ford, I sent our city manager an email on Friday seeking more information as to what this agenda item was about. Because you'll notice it does not mention the Lincoln Butte parcel. It just says a Rotary Housing Update. And so the response I got back, and I have the email, is that this is just going to be a simple |
| 00:02:21.75 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:02:21.85 | Kayla Kahn | and |
| 00:02:29.69 | Linda Pfeifer | oral presentation and there was no context provided. So clearly this is not a business item. This belongs under presentations and, you know, it does need to be moved. |
| 00:02:46.77 | Nancy Osborne | Well, |
| 00:02:47.58 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. Could I have some clarification? Is this a business item, a legitimate business item? |
| 00:02:54.99 | Mary Wagner | Vice Mayor Kelly, I think that it's at the Council's discretion if you want to move the item. There are other items on your business agenda. even tonight and at other times that are informational only, such as quarterly reports, or other similar types. I think there's two on there tonight that are information items. quarterly fire department report and the public works fire and police on preparedness for the winter, but it is at the Council's discretion if you want to move it to a different spot on the agenda. |
| 00:03:23.65 | Mike Kelly | If it's a special presentation, can you still |
| 00:03:24.35 | Mary Wagner | you you |
| 00:03:29.57 | Mike Kelly | Ask questions. |
| 00:03:31.21 | Mary Wagner | Yes. |
| 00:03:32.72 | Mike Kelly | So what's the difference? |
| 00:03:34.56 | Mary Wagner | It really just is the place on the agenda and the order in which they're taken up by the council. |
| 00:03:39.79 | Mike Kelly | Bye. |
| 00:03:39.88 | Carolyn Ford | THE END OF THE END OF THE Thank you. you |
| 00:03:40.93 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:03:40.97 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:03:41.08 | Mary Wagner | Mr. Mayor. |
| 00:03:42.44 | Herb Weiner | Yes. |
| 00:03:43.09 | Carolyn Ford | I'd like to ask our city attorney, as a special presentation item, can the city council give direction to staff? Isn't that indeed a difference between a special presentation and a business item? |
| 00:03:59.00 | Mary Wagner | There have been special presentations where the council has given direction to staff. I can't remember if the... on the roadway underpass in the county and the mural project was a special presentation. No, that was a business item. I believe there have been past special presentations where the council has given direction to staff. There isn't |
| 00:04:12.75 | Carolyn Ford | No, that was a business item. |
| 00:04:23.16 | Mary Wagner | Um... anything in the Brown Act or in any other council protocol that I'm aware of that would prevent that from occurring. |
| 00:04:31.90 | Linda Pfeifer | Mary, I have a follow-up question to that then. What does the Brown Act say specifically the agenda item on this was Rotary Housing Update. It did not mention Lincoln Butte. There was no mention anywhere. And when I tried to get more detailed information from city staff, I was just told it was an oral presentation. and that it was not linked to Lincoln Butte. given the controversial nature of Lincoln Butte, given the high level of interest with Saucedo residents with regards to this parcel, are we dancing on the edge of the Brown Act, if in spirit, to be even considering giving any type of action with respect to this topic? |
| 00:05:27.54 | Mary Wagner | The Brown Act merely requires that the agenda item, the brief description of the item be included. on the agenda. doesn't specifically say that if there's real property involved, you have to list the address. My understanding is that this is a follow-up from the Council meeting where the Rotary housing, Exclusive Negotiating Agreement, which was an agreement which would have allowed the city or formalized a process where the city just talked about the possibility of transferring the Butte property to Rotary Housing. that this is a follow-up to that item. That that item, the Council specifically took off the agenda and asked that it be moved to open session I believe it might have been to open session as a business item, I don't recall. that it be moved to open session, not in closed session, and be brought here so the Council could understand the proposal better. It's my understanding that this is a follow-up of that item. I do not believe that there has been a violation of the Brown Act. |
| 00:06:26.50 | Carolyn Ford | Mr. Mayor. |
| 00:06:27.79 | Herb Weiner | Yes. |
| 00:06:28.49 | Carolyn Ford | So, However, Mary, I believe that that item was in closed session. It was not discussed. The information was not available to the public. We took it off the closed session. |
| 00:06:45.67 | Mary Wagner | You took it off closed and open. |
| 00:06:46.99 | Carolyn Ford | session. |
| 00:06:47.46 | Mary Wagner | you |
| 00:06:47.53 | Herb Weiner | hand open. |
| 00:06:48.17 | Mary Wagner | Yes. |
| 00:06:48.34 | Carolyn Ford | Yes. |
| 00:06:48.96 | Mary Wagner | sense. |
| 00:06:49.38 | Carolyn Ford | open right right but it was not a business item and was not ever on the public agenda and here we have a business item on the public agenda for the public to weigh in on with no information |
| 00:06:49.82 | Mary Wagner | Right. |
| 00:07:04.07 | Mary Wagner | Well, it's- |
| 00:07:04.62 | Carolyn Ford | Ethically, legally, you say it meets the point that ethically, |
| 00:07:10.56 | Mary Wagner | Councilmember Ford, if the City Council would wish to move this item to a different place on your agenda, that is at your discretion to do so. |
| 00:07:18.19 | Carolyn Ford | I move that we move it to special presentations. |
| 00:07:21.58 | Linda Pfeifer | I second and, well, I have to say, |
| 00:07:31.18 | Herb Weiner | Yes. |
| 00:07:31.66 | Linda Pfeifer | that I'm just very, very concerned about even having this on the agenda right now because it doesn't mention that we were discussing Lincoln Butte. |
| 00:07:39.35 | Mike Kelly | Mary, there's no recommended motion or action in the staff report. Is that correct? There's nothing, no action to be taken on this particular item. It's a presentation. |
| 00:07:49.85 | Mary Wagner | And there is no staff presentation. It's a presentation by Rotary Housing to the City Council. |
| 00:07:52.21 | Mike Kelly | Right. to the City Council. And if it was a special presentation also the public may not comment on it if the public so chose. I believe that there's that's not |
| 00:08:02.57 | Mary Wagner | They could. Any item on your agenda can comment it on. Yeah, we call for public comment on every item on your agenda. |
| 00:08:03.60 | Mike Kelly | You can do that. So I'm not sure what the purpose of what you're trying to do is, but it it doesn't matter where it sits on the agenda the council can still give direction to staff on any item on the agenda wherever it may be so well we have a motion |
| 00:08:22.03 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:08:22.13 | Mike Kelly | And a second. |
| 00:08:22.89 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. you but I have a |
| 00:08:32.63 | Unknown | Council member Pfeiffer. |
| 00:08:33.74 | Linda Pfeifer | Yes. |
| 00:08:35.19 | Unknown | Council member Ford? Council Member Leon. |
| 00:08:39.34 | Mike Kelly | No. |
| 00:08:40.66 | Unknown | Vice Mayor Kelly. |
| 00:08:41.71 | Mike Kelly | You know, |
| 00:08:42.89 | Unknown | Mare Weiner. |
| 00:08:44.08 | Mike Kelly | you you |
| 00:08:44.20 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:08:44.22 | Mike Kelly | No. |
| 00:08:47.24 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Thank you. |
| 00:08:49.20 | Mike Kelly | I'll move the agenda as met in by the staff. |
| 00:08:49.23 | Herb Weiner | approval of the agenda |
| 00:08:51.39 | Adam Politzer | All right. |
| 00:08:51.44 | Herb Weiner | I'm not. I mean... |
| 00:08:55.69 | Adam Politzer | Second. |
| 00:08:56.76 | Herb Weiner | Second. Okay, all in favor? Aye. Opposed? No. Okay. |
| 00:08:59.02 | Adam Politzer | Bye. |
| 00:08:59.47 | Mike Kelly | you |
| 00:09:01.77 | Adam Politzer | Yeah. |
| 00:09:02.04 | Ron Albert | you. |
| 00:09:02.12 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:09:03.86 | Herb Weiner | Next, we have a special presentation by the Sustainability Commission. and Green Business of the Year. |
| 00:09:20.03 | Herb Weiner | you |
| 00:09:20.23 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:09:20.37 | Eric Abdullah | I know, that was helpful. |
| 00:09:23.15 | Herb Weiner | Hey, Bill, you got out of that one. |
| 00:09:23.25 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. bill you got out of that one that last year |
| 00:09:25.06 | Unknown | I'm not sure. |
| 00:09:25.33 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:09:26.86 | Eric Abdullah | . |
| 00:09:26.93 | Unknown | You have very last minute. Doesn't bother me. Good evening, everybody. The Sustainability Commission is very pleased to present to Tom Harrison from AlterEco, the Green Business of the Year Award. And, oh, there you are. Hello. I'm working over it. This is a very interesting evening. |
| 00:09:44.55 | Regina Diaz | I'm working on you. |
| 00:09:47.59 | Unknown | So I'm going to just read you just a little bit about Alter Eco. They do custom cabinetry in bamboo and wood, and he works very closely with a lot of cooperative other organizations that work in that kind of community. He's been around Sausalito since 1997 and got his start in stone casting right back east. And so I believe that he recognizes what the goal of the Sustainability Commission is, that we would like to be green, sustainable for the city of Sausalito, and so we're very pleased to give him the award. Thank you. |
| 00:10:27.04 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:10:34.04 | Mike Kelly | Congratulations. Do you want to give a plug for your business while you have the microphone? Do you want to just let people know what you do? |
| 00:10:41.97 | Eric Abdullah | you |
| 00:10:44.35 | Tom Harrison | pretty much covered, but just so you know, I'm located down on Gate 5 Road. So a lot of folks around here know Heath Ceramics, but might not know us right across the street, kind of keep a low profile beside Anchorage Restaurant. So please come by, give me a call. I'd love to talk to you. Don't want to waste your time here, but it's a great pleasure you If anybody's looking for high quality green cabinetry, we'd love to help you out. Thanks so much. Appreciate it. |
| 00:11:07.13 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:11:07.17 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:11:07.18 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Bye. |
| 00:11:12.94 | Herb Weiner | Okay, next on the agenda, we have the recognition of the Public Works custodian, Eric Abdullah. |
| 00:11:23.81 | Herb Weiner | Lauren, you're on. |
| 00:11:25.68 | Lorne Umbertas | Good evening, City Council. My name is Lorne Umbertas, Division Manager of the Department of Public Works. Thank you. It's my honor and privilege tonight as my first formal presentation to the council to actually come forward to give out a certificate of appreciation to an employee of the Department of Public Works. Eric Abdullah is a custodian for our department and works in City Hall. And approximately one month ago, was involved in a situation that he was took some very good initiative on. At that time, he happened to notice an individual exiting one of our restrooms and noticed some distinctive markings upon the gentleman's arm AND, soon after went into one of the restrooms and noticed that there was some vandalism that matched some of these distinctive markings on this gentleman's arm. Soon after that, he also noticed another individual who was an associate of this person, and this person was exhibiting severe physical distress and was not looking very good. Eric went, spoke with the gentleman, sat him down, found him a chair, told him that he needed to get medical attention, went into the admin office, asked an ambulance and the public safety people to come to the City Hall to assist this individual. This person was taken away in an ambulance. I believe that Eric said there was something abdominal or possibly even Kidney stone, which is probably even more painful. So for that reason, and for many other reasons, we wanted to come and appreciate Thank you. Eric tonight. It's this type of behavior that makes me very proud to become the division manager for this department and it's something that I hope the other members of our department take from this. It's important that Eric considers this building to be his own and that he looks at it as his house and that many of the people who work here just spend some time here. So for that, I want to thank Eric. We have put together a nice little certificate of appreciation for him. and it is signed by Kent Basso, supervisor for the Department of Public Works, myself and Jonathan Goldman, the director of Public Works. Before I let Eric speak, I actually want to say that |
| 00:13:38.16 | Kayla Kahn | you |
| 00:13:45.86 | Lorne Umbertas | I'm now considering changing the slogan for the Department of Public Works, which is, this is our town and the rest of you just spent some time here. |
| 00:13:55.33 | Herb Weiner | LAUGHTER |
| 00:13:56.30 | Lorne Umbertas | With that, I want to say thank you very much, Eric. Continue the great work. I'm sorry. |
| 00:14:02.97 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:14:10.26 | Eric Abdullah | Yeah, first off, thank you guys. It's city council members. It's been about a year since the last time I've stood up here and talked to you guys. Been here for a year now and very excited to be here and I'm very excited for this award. I'm also excited that my family, we actually came from out of town, to come join me for this. I'm very excited for that. It's not every day that, you know, I get to see them. I actually relocated when I took this job and no longer be with my family. I do take a lot of pride in this place. I consider everybody here family members, whether they're citizens or employees or people that just happen to drop in from out of town and can't get their way out of here. So nonetheless, this is something that I think anybody would do. I mean, hands down, this is a no-brainer when you come across somebody and he needs help. The right thing to do is to help them, even if their friends are going in there and messing up your bathroom. So thank you guys very much, and I'm very proud to be an employee with the city and working around with everybody here. Thank you. |
| 00:15:37.42 | Eric Abdullah | Sorry. Sorry. |
| 00:15:38.94 | Herb Weiner | Clean up that mess. |
| 00:15:39.39 | Eric Abdullah | I'm not. |
| 00:15:43.01 | Herb Weiner | Congratulations. You know, I'd like to make a comment that I met Eric when he first started here a year ago, and I can honestly say the day that he stepped into his job at City Hall, he has made a very positive difference up here. So thank you very much again, Eric. |
| 00:15:45.88 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. |
| 00:16:06.06 | Herb Weiner | I'll see you tomorrow morning. |
| 00:16:07.56 | Herb Weiner | laughter |
| 00:16:08.98 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. |
| 00:16:09.75 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Next, we have the introduction of the city librarian, Abbott Chambers. Adam? |
| 00:16:25.38 | Herb Weiner | Yes. |
| 00:16:26.32 | Adam Politzer | Thank you, Mr. Mayor and city council members and our beautiful community and our residents here. Thank you all for this opportunity to give you some really exciting news and introduce you to our newest member of the team. Abbott Chambers, here to my left, has joined us from the city, well actually the JPA of Belvedere Tiburon. He's been the assistant director of the Belvedere Tiburon Library for the past, has worked here for the past nine years and four of those years as the assistant to the director. Abbott comes to us from Michigan, and I know that I don't see Amy Belser here in the audience, but Todd did give me a little wave. Todd Teachout has something in common with him as well. But Abbott went to the University of Michigan both for undergraduate school and for graduate school and got his Masters in Information and Library Studies in 1994. He also worked in Ann Arbor's public library as a reference clerk while he was there, but then got distracted by the internet. That's back in those days the dot com started coming and he had a lot of information. He got pulled into the dot-com. of here's some excitement, here's how you can get rich quickly and see the world. And in fact, he had many opportunities to work for companies such as the O'Reilly & Associates, American Online, and Excite.com. Um, In his last position with Excite.com, he was the senior director at the Excite. UK offices in London. So a really exciting opportunity to serve as a senior director with Excite. But unfortunately, as we all know, the dot-coms had some difficulties, as did Excite, and they went there. Their London office went belly up. And then he found himself in a crossroads. |
| 00:18:35.42 | Mike Kelly | deposit patient coming. |
| 00:18:36.63 | Adam Politzer | Coming back and working for local government and going back to his roots where he got his studies in library services brought him out here to California and to Belvedere Tiburon where he's, as I mentioned earlier, served for the past nine years for those as the assistant director. We went through an extensive recruitment and process back in July recruiting for our new librarian. I had the help of the friends who had the |
| 00:18:37.04 | Mike Kelly | Yeah. |
| 00:19:10.13 | Adam Politzer | of the library, the library board and the foundation, all which their chairs or presidents sat on the interview panel with me, other members of the community, city staff, and then professionals in the library field throughout the county to help me screen the top two candidates. It was hands down from the community groups and the professionals that Abbott would be best for our library and so the process continued into the background and reference checks and a lot of really positive comments came about this young man that's standing here on how he's going to be able to help us move our library forward. One of the things that I'd like to point out from his experiences and accomplishments in Belvedere Tiberon Um, was that he was charged with building and maintaining the website there. And anyone that's gone to the Tiburon Belvedere Library or have checked out their website. We'll see that they've done a really nice job of staying above the curve on technology and working with their community. He's also responsible for launching the first collection of circulating e-readers in Marin and also created the first bookstore, created the Tiburon Library's own used bookstore. And we have a great bookstore here, but there's an opportunity for that to even go another level. And I think with Abbott and the friends and the board that they're going to take all of the things that we've done here to the next level of and the next generation of library users. We were fortunate and blessed to have Mary Richardson with us for 30 years and she's done a great job of getting us and keeping us a very effective and stable library. And so filling those shoes was a monumental task and almost impossible to do. But I think again with the support of the library groups, their patrons, the staff has shown that there is light at the end of the tunnel. And with its new leader here with Abbott, I think we're in very good hands as we go forward. I do want to make special mention and thanks to Auggie Webb. I don't know if Auggie is here. She may be in the... here with Abbott I think we're in very good hands as we go forward. I do want to make special mention and thanks to Augie Webb and I don't know if Augie is here. She may be in the library or gone home because she's been working really hard while we've been going through this transition. But Augie served as the interim director, the interim librarian during this transition and has done an outstanding job of keeping the department afloat keeping the customer served, working with the boards, and the friends and the foundation with whatever efforts they've been trying to maintain during the absence of the full-time librarian. And without her support there, her leadership in the library, I think that Abbott's introduction to the library might have been a lot different coming into something that may have not been as well kept up as Auggie has done. I know that I've seen Mary around in both in the library and out in the community. She looks refreshed and relaxed and retired. but I know that she knows Abbott personally. I know that they have spent some time together during this transition and is willing and uh, wanting to be as helpful as she can. So I feel that the city of Saucyut is in great hands going forward, and I'd like to take this opportunity to introduce you to Abbott Chambers. |
| 00:23:02.11 | Abbott Chambers | Well, thank you, Adam, and thank you, Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of the council. It's an honor for me to join you as the new city librarian for Sausalito. The Sausalito Public Library has a long and distinguished history And I look forward to contributing to a new chapter of that history. I'm deeply impressed by the care and the leadership that have been brought to this library by Mary Richardson, the library staff, the friends of the library, the library foundation, and the library trustees. It's really a wonderful thing for me to come into this library knowing that it's a place that is so beloved and so well cared for. Tonight, I have with me my partner, Kristen. |
| 00:23:47.98 | Herb Weiner | you Thank you. |
| 00:23:50.53 | Abbott Chambers | as well as my sister Liza, who |
| 00:23:56.72 | Abbott Chambers | Liza's up here from Los Angeles visiting, and she and her husband are considering a move up to Northern California, so we've been lobbying them. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:24:05.75 | Mike Kelly | Well, Herb will give you a tour around town if you come tomorrow morning. Yeah, meet me behind B of A. |
| 00:24:05.76 | Abbott Chambers | Yeah. |
| 00:24:11.97 | Mike Kelly | Bye. |
| 00:24:13.49 | Abbott Chambers | I'm also happy to add that Kristen and I are now residents of Sausalito. We moved into our new apartment last Wednesday in an area I'm told is called Hurricane Gulch. |
| 00:24:27.13 | Herb Weiner | You'll find that out probably tonight when you go home. |
| 00:24:27.36 | Abbott Chambers | You'll find it. |
| 00:24:31.60 | Abbott Chambers | So thank you all again for your warm welcome. I look forward to serving the people of Sausalito faithfully and diligently for many years to come. So thank you all. |
| 00:24:56.39 | Eric Abdullah | Yes. |
| 00:24:58.75 | Herb Weiner | Chuck, there's some seats down here if you'd like to come down now. Okay, next we have the presentation on the Marin Economic Forum and that will be presented by CEO Neil Stone. Oh, I'm sorry, Jeremy. Go ahead. |
| 00:25:18.80 | Adam Politzer | Mayor and city council members, we have two items pertaining to the Marine Economic Forum this evening. Before the main item on your agenda, I would like to announce the start. of the public review period of the Community and Economic Development Study. I distributed copies to the Council before the start of the meeting. This study was prepared by Rob Eiler, the Chief Economist of the Marine Economic Forum, |
| 00:25:37.49 | Kayla Kahn | THE STATE OF THE STATE OF THE |
| 00:25:45.78 | Adam Politzer | examines the economy of the city of Sausalito. Copies of this study are available at the city's website, as well as in the library, and also the Community Development Department. There's a 30-day public comment period that will begin tomorrow morning and run through Monday, November 21st. So I'd like to encourage members of the public to download copies of this study, take a look at it, and please forward comments to the Community Development Department on the study, and then we will eventually be bringing a revised copy of this study to the City Council for your review. and acceptance. Now on to the main event for the Marine Economic Forum. I'd like to introduce Neil Stone. Neil was appointed early this summer as the first Chief Executive Officer of the Marine Economic Forum. Neil previously served with the City of San Jose for 14 years as the Division Manager of the Real Estate and Asset Management Group. program. Prior to that, he was the president of the Napa Valley Development Corporation, and also served as the development manager for the Southern California Rapid Transit Development Agency. He has also worked as a consultant to the President's Council of Economic Advisers, and so obviously he comes very well qualified to Marin County. And Neil, I'd like to welcome you to the city of Sausalito. |
| 00:27:28.21 | Neil Stone | Council members, thank you for the opportunity to introduce myself. introduce the Marin Economic Forum to you this evening You have a full agenda. I'll try to be cognizant of the time you've allotted me, and I appreciate that time. You've allotted me 15 minutes. Let me take 10 minutes to make my presentation, and if you have questions, I'd be happy to answer them. I've left copies of my card, so if there are questions in the future, I would encourage you to contact me. The Marin Economic Forum is really an outgrowth of the recommendations of a commission appointed by the Board of Supervisors to advise the county board on economic issues here in Marin. And as that commission ended their work in 2008, they recommended that an entity be established not as a department or a governmental section of the county, but rather an independent entity that would evaluate and promote economic vitality here in Marin. And that's what the Marin Economic Forum is. I work for a board of 30 members. That board includes elected officials, includes representatives from educational institutions, a variety of nonprofits, business associations, and private companies ranging from those that are sole practitioners to larger corporations such as Autodesk. So we have a variety of interests represented as the Marin Economic Forum. The study you've received this evening was prepared as was mentioned by Rob Eiler. Rob is the chair of the Economics Department at Sonoma State and served as our interim CEO. He continues as our chief economist. The Marin Economic Forum has invited you each to the Forecasting Future Conference next week on the 26th. At that conference we will be again presenting the Marine Economic Bulletin. It is the only published report currently and historically of the economics of Marin, providing you an overview. That report's been published semi-annually. We're going to, after this presentation next week, publish that report once per annum. and add two additional reports that we'll be presenting as well. One that may be of the most interest to you is a report we'll prepare, a detailed analysis of the economy of each jurisdiction. So if you want to think of Sausalito as a chapter of that report, that work we will be doing annually. And then we'll publish a third report. And rather than looking at the economy by geographic area, we'll look at it by the industries of Marin. And so we'll have a detailed economic analysis of the major industries of Marin available to you as well. In addition, we want to identify identify ourselves in a variety of ways. We're a startup company, if you will, and startup companies begin by identifying their brand. And I want to share with you and the members of the public this evening what our brand is, the Marin Economic Forum is. The first is that we want to be a portal, a one-stop for any information you want about Marin. If you want to know where to visit in Marin, you want to know where to eat, you want to know what activities are happening this week or this month, what plays to go to, you want to know the demographics of the community, you want to know how many foreclosures in your community, or median median home prices or changes in commercial real estate. We want to have that information available. Unlike the gentleman that was just introduced who was credited with creating a website that is perhaps state of the art, ours isn't. As new CEO, it's probably inappropriate for me to say that our website's terrible. If I were to say that, I would overstate its qualities. |
| 00:31:36.14 | Kayla Kahn | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:31:36.66 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 00:31:36.68 | Kayla Kahn | Thank you. |
| 00:31:45.56 | Jonathan Leone | Oh. |
| 00:31:46.89 | Neil Stone | We are revising our website to have that information available and as an example, I don't know if you've had an opportunity to pass it out, but this sheet is an example of the kind of connection you'll be able to make to Sausalito. By going to the website, by looking at the communities and then looking at Sausalito, all the data and for the audience just kinds of data that I referred to. |
| 00:31:55.19 | Kayla Kahn | But... |
| 00:32:13.94 | Neil Stone | Where is the nearest, where is the City Hall located? Where's the nearest fire station? Who do I call on city staff? of Where's the police facility? What are the economics of Sausalito, what are the demographics of the Sausalito? All these links will be available. Now we're not going to create new information. We'll link to, as an example, your Chamber of Commerce site. We'll link to information that you have available here in the city. But we also will provide new information, new data, and have this available online before the holidays. So that's one example of what we're going to be doing, is that source for information about Marin and the businesses and communities of Marin. You've heard by example the report you've just received that we also act as a economic researcher, economic analyst if you will, in a consulting capacity. What's most important to share with you is that it is incumbent upon us As we do those studies, as we're commissioned by municipalities such as Sausalito, such as Novato, which we are delivering a report to also. As we are commissioned by nonprofits such as the Marine Community Foundation and other nonprofits in the community. As we're commissioned by private entities and private developers. What's most important is that you as council members, You as citizens can look at the report we do regardless of who our client is, and be convinced not only by what I'm about to say, but by the evidence of the report itself, they were an independent objective source for analysis. We're not going to be advocates for projects. Let me repeat that. We're not going to be advocates, we're going to be the party that you can turn to for independent research and analysis. And just as an example of that, within the last week I was approached by a developer who wanted us to do an economic analysis of the benefits of their proposed residential project. And there will be benefits from the project if for no other reason new residents moving in will spend part of their money in the community. But we would be delinquent if we didn't also look at what are the consequences of that development in terms of the cost of municipal services. So we said to that potential client, We're more than happy to accept the assignment, more than happy to do the work, but understand that if we do that work, we're going to look at the cost to the community of that development as well. And so that's an example of how we want to posture ourselves to provide that information in an objective fashion. I mentioned that we represent government, we represent educational institutions, nonprofits, business associations, private companies. And so perhaps the third item that brands us is that we really have an ability to act as a hub for introduction to those various sources. So as businesses want to expand in Marin, as businesses want to locate in Marin, and they need introduction to resources or mentors already in the community to introduce to yourselves as elected officials or your staff, to be introduced to a specialist, whether that's a real estate broker or a lending institution, we want to be the hub for those introductions and coordination of those resources. Again, we're not going to advocate. So we're not going to represent to anyone that by introduction, we're promising them or guaranteeing them approval. We simply want to be able to be that resource. And so we'll be doing that. The County of Marin, with which you're all familiar, provides a variety of services, but it does not include among its staffing an economic development department or an economic development division or a staff member with the title of business recruitment officer or economic development coordinator. So we want to be fulfilling that role for the county and for those jurisdictions that have staff that do it to be a resource, an assistant. And so one of the things that I can share with you this evening is by the introduction that you were given and more importantly by my appearance, you can tell I'm not new to a lot of things, but I am new to Marin. |
| 00:36:28.92 | Kayla Kahn | uh, |
| 00:36:54.57 | Neil Stone | I've been here since the end of May, so I have a lot to learn. We need to listen a lot to what your concerns are, what your issues are, because while on one hand we're going to promote the expansion of business and promote the location of new business, we're only going to do that in the context of the local environment. And that's not only the physical environment, but certain businesses may be appropriate for one community that may not be appropriate for another. So we want to be especially sensitive to those desires and needs of each community. businesses may be appropriate for one community that may not be appropriate for another. So we want to be especially sensitive to those desires and needs of each community and do our work in that context. Finally, We want to make sure that we have measurements to share successes. How do we measure the creation of new jobs, how do we measure the economic vitality of communities? You may be very familiar as elected officials, the US Conference of Mayors has recently, through a private firm, done an analysis of the largest 200 cities in the country, obviously not one in Marin. In doing that analysis, they looked at certain indicators but didn't weigh them, didn't compare them to other indicators. There are no best practices. I can tell you as a former advisor to the President's Council of Economic Advisers and as having done this work now for 45 years, there are no examples of metrics being developed to identify economic vitality of a community. We're going to be doing that. We're going to be sharing that. So we will, as part of that report I mentioned on the specifics of any community, we'll also be sharing what measurements are we using to determine economic vitality and, of course, share that with you and be responsive to your questions. Let me stop this long monologue. Thank you for the ability to introduce myself and the Marine Economic Forum to you this evening. And most importantly, this shouldn't be the last time we're talking, not as a monologue, but hopefully as a dialogue in the future. And I look forward to working with you each. |
| 00:38:54.10 | Kayla Kahn | Amen. |
| 00:39:19.85 | Neil Stone | Thank you. |
| 00:39:21.25 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:39:21.79 | Neil Stone | If you have questions, if you have a moment, I do have to answer them. Do you have any questions? |
| 00:39:28.44 | Herb Weiner | You got off the hook there. |
| 00:39:29.28 | Neil Stone | I left you my car. Somebody said I let off the hook, and I have been. Thank you. And I look forward to hearing from you in the future. |
| 00:39:34.56 | Herb Weiner | And Yeah. |
| 00:39:39.07 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you. Okay, moving on to next, we have public communications, and at this time here, we'd like to hear from the public if they have any comments on anything that is not on our agenda this evening. Is there anybody? Kayla? |
| 00:40:02.64 | Kayla Kahn | Hi, I'm Kayla Kahn and I live on Rodeo. And this is the 10th year that I've been here discussing this with you. The cars are still there. I know that Jonathan Goldman's been very nice, and he put up a big sign saying, you know, watch out. People are turning left. He painted great big orange lines in the... nothing. They come down Rodeo at 25 to 50 miles an hour. I almost got hit. There are more than 200 people that live there. I mean, I don't know what I can do. I mean, if they just took three parking places and put them red, that would solve the problem. So if anybody gets hit, at least For 10 years I have been complaining about this. Thank you. |
| 00:40:45.29 | Herb Weiner | Okay, thank you Kayla. Anybody else? Public comment, not on the item? Okay. All right, let's move on to... Action minutes of the previous meeting. Council discussion on the reconsideration of the approval of the September 27, 2011 City Council minutes. |
| 00:41:09.96 | Carolyn Ford | Mr. Mayor? |
| 00:41:10.77 | Herb Weiner | Yes. |
| 00:41:11.14 | Carolyn Ford | I would recommend and I move that we approve the verbatim verbatim minutes so that there's no misunderstanding. |
| 00:41:22.90 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 00:41:22.93 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:41:22.97 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. And I would second. |
| 00:41:26.71 | Mary Wagner | Mr. Mayor, procedurally, under Rosenberg, you first need a motion for reconsideration and then a motion to approve the revised minutes. So you need the motion to reconsider the item that was approved 5-0 at your last meeting. |
| 00:41:26.80 | Linda Pfeifer | I'm married. |
| 00:41:27.14 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 00:41:39.18 | Mary Wagner | And after, if there's a two-thirds vote of the council on that, then you can move to change the minutes. |
| 00:41:47.77 | Carolyn Ford | of, I move that we reconsider the minutes from the last meeting. |
| 00:41:54.59 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 00:41:55.84 | Linda Pfeifer | And I second that. |
| 00:41:58.89 | Herb Weiner | All in favor. |
| 00:42:00.90 | Linda Pfeifer | . |
| 00:42:01.04 | Carolyn Ford | Aye. |
| 00:42:02.02 | Herb Weiner | Opposed? No. Okay. All right. |
| 00:42:13.83 | Herb Weiner | Now we'll move on to the... Thank you. approval of the minutes of the regular city council meeting on October 4th, 2011. |
| 00:42:25.41 | Jonathan Leone | So moved. |
| 00:42:29.05 | Herb Weiner | Just check. Second. Okay, all in favor. Do you need extra time? |
| 00:42:39.65 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:42:40.26 | Herb Weiner | Okay, all right. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. Thank you. Let's go on now to the consent calendar. |
| 00:42:41.96 | Herb Weiner | Aye. |
| 00:42:53.86 | Linda Pfeifer | Mr. Mayor? |
| 00:42:55.39 | Herb Weiner | Yes. |
| 00:42:56.52 | Linda Pfeifer | I would like to pull item 4E. |
| 00:43:02.99 | Linda Pfeifer | the guardrails project. |
| 00:43:10.66 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:43:19.34 | Herb Weiner | Yeah. |
| 00:43:22.49 | Linda Pfeifer | So if we could perhaps move that to, you know, we could put it Make it. 6F. |
| 00:43:40.84 | Adam Politzer | Ms. Mayor. |
| 00:43:41.63 | Linda Pfeifer | And your business. |
| 00:43:43.47 | Unknown | Adam. |
| 00:43:43.82 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. Mr. Mayor, if the council would please move that item to our next council meeting rather than adding it to the end unless they feel that it's a brief item. But I would rather put that on the next agenda than move it to the end of the evening. |
| 00:44:03.99 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 00:44:04.93 | Linda Pfeifer | I'm fine with that. Me too. |
| 00:44:05.95 | Herb Weiner | Me too. All right. So let's do that. All right. So we're taking out item E, go for approval of the consent calendar. |
| 00:44:18.05 | Herb Weiner | So, |
| 00:44:18.26 | Carolyn Ford | Bye. |
| 00:44:19.23 | Herb Weiner | Okay, all in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? |
| 00:44:21.32 | Carolyn Ford | Aye. Except for item E. |
| 00:44:24.17 | Herb Weiner | Yeah, we'll try it already. |
| 00:44:25.72 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. 20 seconds. |
| 00:44:26.94 | Herb Weiner | Yes. |
| 00:44:28.10 | Carolyn Ford | special. |
| 00:44:31.95 | Herb Weiner | you Yep. |
| 00:44:32.59 | Herb Weiner | Yep. |
| 00:44:32.93 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 00:44:33.59 | Herb Weiner | Okay. you All right. Now let's move on to the first of the business item, the Rotary housing update. Ron Albert. |
| 00:44:46.26 | Ron Albert | Just give me one moment. |
| 00:46:33.70 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:46:48.27 | Keith Stone King | Wow. |
| 00:46:50.93 | Ron Albert | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Do you have a word to just flip the biscuit? is. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:47:05.80 | Ron Albert | Thank you. that you serve this thing. |
| 00:47:36.55 | Ron Albert | Yeah, I wasn't, is this on? Okay, I wasn't going to lead with the PowerPoint, so if we think we're close to having that ready, I could get started. |
| 00:47:49.22 | Ron Albert | All right. |
| 00:47:53.37 | Ron Albert | Okay. You don't have to put the PowerPoint up yet as long as it's queued up and ready to go. |
| 00:48:08.34 | Ron Albert | Oh, there. Amazing. |
| 00:48:18.11 | Ron Albert | All right. My name is Ron Albert. I'm a resident of the city of Sausalito, and I'm the current president of Rotary Housing. I'm going to talk briefly, but I wanted to give an opportunity to my two immediate predecessors as president of Rotary Housing to talk about the history of Rotary Housing a little bit, because they've got a longer history with Rotary housing than I do. So before I turn it over to them, and them is Don Olson, the immediate past president, and prior to him, Paul Anderson. Before I hand it over to Paul and then to Don, I just wanted to say a few words. I'm going to say a few words. We, Rotary, has and will continue to be as open and communicative with the neighbors of this property as possible. I walked in after there was some discussion already going about how the meeting was noticed, and I didn't quite catch all of it, but I want to let the council and everyone here know that I reached out to think Sausalito and to other neighbors and let them know that this presentation was about Rotary Housing, talking about who we are, what we do, and specifically our interest in the Butte Street property. We've internally been referring to this as the Butte Street property because it doesn't have any access to Lincoln. It abuts homes that are on Lincoln, but it doesn't have any access to Lincoln. So I'm not sure why there are some references to it as the Butte Lincoln property. We've been referring to it as the Butte property. So I'm going to come back at the end briefly, but at this point I'd like to hand it over to Paul Anderson, who will talk a little bit about the history of rotary housing. Thanks. |
| 00:50:19.15 | Paul Anderson | Good evening, Mayor Herb, council members. It's always a pleasure to be here. I enjoy every 10 years getting up here and talking about Rotary Housing. and it seems like it has been 10 years. But first, I want to tell you about Sausalito Rotary and what it's done for the city of Sausalito over its 63 years. In 1948, a group of merchants got together at the Altamere Hotel. and had the first meeting. 63 years later, Rotary has been involved in many community projects, a few of which are Gabrielson Park, down on the waterfront that we have or Jazz by the Bay. That was a Rotary Park project named by the Rotary Club for Carl Gabrielson, who was a member of the South Dakota Rotary Club and a citizen here in town, and dedicated by the then Rotary International President at the time that the park was dedicated We were also involved in Tiffany Beach, which is now Tiffany Park on Bridgeway. and the formation of that park, we followed that with bus shelters up on Spencer that we know It has three sides and the wind comes in the fourth, but there's still a structure when you're there in the middle of the night and it's raining. And then we finished one a couple years ago at the foot of Turney Street. And that was one that we rebuilt after building it first in the 80s when there was no stop on Turney Street. Little League Fields, both at Bayside, which we built the field at Bayside, and then the dugouts many years later and put the first scoreboard up for the kids, which is now Connie Canoeson Field. That was a job that we did. And I chuckle when I think about Buddy DeBruin digging the ditch to put the electrical out for the scoreboard when we had a chance to do that. The field house at MLK is a project that we completed a couple years ago. And we like to say that we take the project on and we complete it regardless of what happens when we go overboard with the expenditures. And we had Michael Rex help us with that overboard of expenditures. and many, many other community projects that we've enjoyed being a part of. But in 1985, under the presidency of Rick Klein, we started talking about the fact that we needed to think about the housing for Sausalito and especially our seniors. And at that time, you know, it was a, an open conversation, several meetings were held, And it kind of dropped, but it came back to life. in 2000 when a piece of property And it's a piece of property that we're all familiar with right across the street at 414B. came available it was given as a bequest to Christchurch and We spoke with Christchurch. It was a duplex and it was run down and we made a deal with Christchurch to pick up that property and It was a duplex we worked with the planning staff Diligently and with the help of raising the Jaffe who just locked in door, we were able to take and get a senior overlay and we built 10 units. There were four one bedrooms and six studio apartments. And it's nice to say that 20 years later, 1991, we dedicated that project 20 years later, there's never been a vacancy. It's just amazing, but it's one of those things that we all take pride in. The other part of this, pride is the fact that when a tenant moves into one of our projects, you It has been our policy to leave the rent the same. And in all the years that we've been doing this now, which has been 20 years, we've never raised the rent on a tenant. So once they move in, it stays that. We do adjust the rents for, economic considerations during the year and we have a fundraiser every year to be able to raise additional funds to take care of the properties. We have maintenance funds set up so that we can take care of something that happens. We just had to replace a major water heater boiler in one of our units. And thank God we also go out and ask the local community and Burke Hill Plumbing here in Sausageville came up with the lowest bid, did a heck of a job. But those are the kind of things that we work with and we work with the community. In 1999, Again, we had the B Street property under our belts. Everything was working. It was full. We started talking to the IDEST hall people, the Portuguese community. They had a piece of property on Lima Street that had been an old slaughterhouse they used to bring the cattle into town back in the 20s and 30s. They had bought it for a $10 gold piece, the property. And we sat with them for the summer and the fall of 1999 and in January of 2000. we signed an agreement to cooperate in coming to the city and working on what we were hoping at that point in time would be a 24 unit project. In conclusion of that project. In 2004, we cut the ribbon on a 22 unit And during that period of time, we met continuously with the neighbors, we met with the council, we met with the planning department, And we all work together to be able to put that together, and it is a showcase of a beautiful piece of property that now is in Sausalito. And we, this year, had a fundraiser, and we're going to take and make the slaughterhouse now for the first time, which we call the Shamarito Building, a community center for the project. We have just raised the additional funds to be able to do that, and hopefully in today's economy, a $50,000 remodel inside will make it something that the community will be able to do that and hopefully in today's economy a $50,000 remodel inside will make it something that the community will be able to use and of course all the residents will be able to use. One of the factors that's most important in all of this is that Rotary has a motto. And our motto is service above self. And each of these projects that I've just talked about, all of them. What motivates us is service above self. That brings us to something that is now hopefully a positive in terms of what we can do for service for the community. And that's the property on what we call Butte Street. And let me give you a little history of our involvement with this property. It's not like something that just popped up yesterday. I found a letter that I wrote to the Council, I believe, back in 2000 when we were talking about starting our project at on the Lima. and I'll just kind of paraphrase part of it. In the early 90s, The Rotary Club identified the Butte Street property. as a large undeveloped parcel here in town. We began studying the parcel and its uses, and we contacted the owners of the property. Um, We were informed there were two partners that owned the property and they had a development plan for the piece of property. Shortly thereafter, our first initial contact with the two owners one of the partners died. And in his estate, he left a 50% interest of that. to the city of Sausalito. In 1996, we contacted Peg Koppel, who was a member of the club, who had done an economic study of the property for the owners and asked her to help us in proceeding with the plan to come to the city for a development of the property. At that time, MLK was also a piece of property on the city's agenda. And we also were studying and we put together a proposal for a senior project on MLK at that time. We submitted to the city and it was one of several different projects that were in front of the city in 1996. We dropped that because in 1998, At our direction, we asked Don Olson to study the property. that was the IDEST property. at the same time that we were looking at the MLK property and the Butte property. And we discovered that One of the things that we needed in the town, what we felt we needed was a, Workforce housing, or as I am noted to call it, Essential Services Personnel Housing. which means policemen and firemen and librarians At that time we looked at what we would be able to do with the Butte Street property, the MLK property, and the ITIS property. And Butte Street we had a feeling would work for city employee housing. And we changed the name of Rotary Senior Housing Corporation to Rotary Housing Corporation to be able to explore that possibility. um, We did a study, we sent it out to all the employees of the city of Sausalito, we got them back. That study is available, but at the time we decided to drop that in favor of the IDES property. And as I say, that began a five-year process until we finished the 22 units. on Olema Street. We did make an offer to Mr. Hunt, the other owner of the property back in 1999, and we We talked with the city. We had several meetings with city manager Brock Arner, and we talked with planning director Charlotte Flynn at the time to discuss the property, what the city's plans were, always with an open idea of what could happen there, knowing that it was a large parcel and knowing that we had to be sensitive to the neighborhood. and to the residents in that area. We also at that time, it's surprising to the sounds, we talked to the Presidio Trust. about the property. And someone's going to say, well, would you be talking to the Presidio in San Francisco? Well, all of the housing apartment units that they had above Baker Beach they were thinking of tearing them down or moving them so we actually did a survey to find out if we could take those apartment buildings, put them on trailers, bring them down to the water, put them on a barge, bring them across this oscilito, take them off, put them on a truck, bring them up the highway, and put them on that piece of property. Obviously, that was all tabled when we decided to go with IDES, but it was something to do that was unusual, something that we could do to recycle and reuse some property that we felt was important. We had meetings with the Marine Community Foundation at the same time in terms of what we could do in terms of building support for housing in Sausalito. Now at the time, as I said, for the Butte property, we were talking about what the Marine Community Foundation was talking about as workforce housing. What we were talking about at the same time was the IDES property for senior housing, which is what we built on senior housing. In 19, as I said, in 1999, we did change the name of the corporation, From Senior to Housing. And we are a private, uh, 501c3 nonprofit organization. We have received zero funds from the federal government, so we're not obliged on any of our properties for schedule age and other Um, Thank you. can I say restrictions in terms of tenants we have a very small board and out of that board we have a committee that takes all the applicants and screens the applicants we look once again because they both of our projects have senior overlays from the city's house leader their senior designated they cannot change from that we always have someone that's senior our senior is age 62 or older and we look at need And need in today's world may be you may have a bank account, but you can be wiped out in a heartbeat. And so we actually look for citizens of Zosolito. And we advertise locally. We try to keep it open as far as in terms of applicants. We have no restrictions in terms of people that are there. And you'll see from the housing family album that we have here, what I'm talking about in terms of the people that |
| 01:03:08.87 | Eric Abdullah | It can control our security. Thank you. for stuff like that. |
| 01:03:12.69 | Paul Anderson | This one right here? |
| 01:03:19.88 | Paul Anderson | Okay. Give me one more time. |
| 01:03:22.61 | Ron Albert | Thank you. This one. That one. I think the forward button. this one. Fuck. Thank you. |
| 01:03:34.44 | Paul Anderson | You got it? Thank you. |
| 01:03:35.18 | Ron Albert | Okay. |
| 01:03:35.52 | Paul Anderson | Thank you. This was a presentation we put together for our fundraiser this last summer, which was extremely successful. We raised $50,000 for our chamarita remodel. This is the project Rotary Place, which is across the street at 414B. It was dedicated in June of 1992, and it was dedicated to Don Olson and Ken Elkington, our architect and our builder. See, there's some of our residents that live on B Street. |
| 01:04:09.34 | Paul Anderson | I love stories of the people who live there. It's heartwarming. It makes you feel like you're doing something correct. When you hear people say, my God, I didn't know what a really good shower felt like. I've lived in places that the water didn't come out of the shower head. This was the lot. that we started building shed in the corner is the slaughterhouse, which is now the Chamorita building. It looked like I was... I don't know what I was doing there. Don's excited, I could tell. |
| 01:04:49.99 | Paul Anderson | We started lean. the foundation |
| 01:04:58.39 | Paul Anderson | Bill Rich, who had been a contractor here in town for years, was the person that was overseeing the complete project. We went down and chopped weeds. We went down and moved trash. We helped every way we can to be able to put the project together. But it was all done with professionals and We're very pleased. at the final project. 22 units. Senior Housing. What's nice to note is that Lot had several distinguished oak trees and not one oak tree was taken out during that project. And what's even better is that with all of the problems with Sutton Oak disease, we have not lost one tree. We have the arborists come in every year and check all of the trees to make sure it's taken care of. The landscaping was put in to be self-sustaining. This is Ed. Ed is our maintenance. Ed was a postal worker here in Sausalito for years and now takes care of everybody and has ice cream cones at the art festival every year. |
| 01:06:16.03 | Paul Anderson | The project's been well received. This last two months ago, the Marine Community Foundation had a meeting at the Shamarady building and it was encouraging to hear several of the members of the board that came to have them walk through the project and comment on how well maintained it was and the residents that they had visited while they were there. As you can see, each of the you Thank you. Units has a balcony. They all look out on greenery, it's very private. Um, And we have a policy of not raising rents for existing tenants. |
| 01:07:06.69 | Paul Anderson | Ed again. |
| 01:07:17.88 | Paul Anderson | There are 21-bedroom and two two-bedroom units at Rotary Village. |
| 01:07:28.87 | Paul Anderson | And this area was the cattle pen back when the chamorita would help in each year. They would drive the cattle down off of Wolfpack Ridge, keep them in the pen, bring them in the slaughterhouse. we saved the hooks. We're not quite sure what we're going to do with them, but we save |
| 01:07:50.38 | Paul Anderson | And that is a big thank you for everyone for the support that you've given to the seniors in Sausalito. And at this time, Don Olson has a couple comments. Thank you for your attention. |
| 01:08:05.97 | Don Olson | Good evening. let you know what our next step is, assuming that you're going to approve our negotiations or working together. It's very important for us in this particular case because we do need to be able to lean on staff and ask certain questions. We're not putting them to great work, but we would like their help and direction as to the way that we are going. We recognize that the property is a wonderful piece, but it also has a lot of negatives ON IT. and we're listing not only problems but also the big assets. And so we're going to start dealing with the sites, with the site and the various issues that we see. I mean, it comes down from drainage to soil to trees to it just, it goes on forever. I saw a list that somebody had created here for about 19 items, and most of them are certainly going to be something that we're going to address. So we have no plans, preconceived plans as to how many units we need to have on there, how many we can have on. how we're going to deal with traffic, how we're going to deal with all these other issues. But with your support and the staff's support, I think we can come to a conclusion very rapidly as to are we on the right road or do we need to abandon and move on to something else. Thank you. |
| 01:09:43.61 | Ron Albert | Okay. I wanted to wrap up. During Paul's presentation, which was great, I'm not sure if I heard him emphasize that no Rotarian has ever had a financial interest in either of the projects we've done, and no Rotarian would have a financial interest in any future project we did. Bill Rich, who acted as the general contractor for the Lima Street Project, you worked as a volunteer for over a year full time on that project. Not only that, but he wrote checks towards the construction of that project. Paul donated his time. Don Olson donated his. I donated mine. We had a surveyor. We had a landscaper. We had an arborist. And I shouldn't have started because I'm going to forget people. But we, at just about every professional skill you can think of, we had a Rotarian donate their services to that project. And that's part of how we made it work. The title to this property is held 50% privately and 50% in the city, undivided. And it's over two acres and it's zoned residential. Early in the summer, Rotary reached a tentative agreement with the owner of that private half to acquire the private half of that property. We were not interested in proceeding without having a clear understanding of how the city would feel about this and whether the city was interested in seeing if we could potentially do something there. And as Don was just emphasizing, we don't have a project here yet. This is not a flat parcel surrounded by other developed property. If it was, we'd probably have some scheme as to what we might do there. You can't even walk this property. It is so densely overgrown with blackberry thorns, poison oak, and whatnot, that We don't have any idea as to what might be feasible and whether even we ultimately would determine that we could do a project there. But as a first step, we wanted to come to the city and see How do we proceed? The city owns one half of this property. And our initial meeting with staff was, you need the council to authorize us to spend time on this. We can't really talk to you about this. And I remember from my days on the council and was reminded of it by Adam that the city council has a list of priorities and they meet annually and go over that list and they decide what items are going to percolate to the top and be ranked. And when I was on the council, I had some pet projects that Boy, they were ranked down around number 100. They didn't make the cut for council consideration. And that was the issue with the staff. The staff can't, not only do they not have authority to do this, but it's simply, you know, it's not on their list of things to even think about. So that was the, they told me the first step was this negotiating agreement. Let's get this on the agenda, have the council discuss whether or not we are authorized to sit down with Rotary and work out all the issues. There are a whole bunch of environmental issues. There's drainage down from the freeway. that the residence below characterizes a stream, it may be a stream. We don't know. There's dense growth, as we said. We can't even walk the site right now before Rotary invested the money to clear enough of that thorn to walk the site and do a proper site analysis, do some soil studies, do a topographic survey, lay out where the trees are, where, if anywhere, there would be appropriate building sites before we do any of that. We need some understanding with the city. So. That's where we were in the summertime. The council was dark for the month of August, so we were put on the first meeting in September, and then there was a snafu where the project was, or the negotiating agreement was put on the consent calendar, and that gave the wrong impression to certain people. So the councils backed up. So we're here tonight. is an informational item. to explain who we are, Rotary Housing, what our interest is, and we truly aren't hiding the ball in terms of when we say we don't have a specific project of mine because we truly don't understand this site yet. And to understand this site, we're going to have to spend some money And before we spend some money trying to understand a site that's half owned by the city, We need to get a discussion started. And my understanding of the negotiating agreement, if the council so adopted it, would be you would then be authorizing the staff to sit and talk with us and work out all the issues. The city owns half this property. Uh, Would it want to transfer its interest to Rotary Housing if we met certain threshold requirements, satisfied certain desires of the city? Or alternatively, Would the city want to find some way to split the site in half? and retain one half. And I'm sure there's dozens or more other questions that can be raised. Staff isn't going to decide that, but even before staff even can sit down with us and puzzle out what all the questions are and what the potential answers are The council needs to authorize them to spend time on this. Otherwise, you've got your previously approved list of priorities that you've directed staff to work on, and that's what they're going to work on. And if I call up Adam or Mary, they're going to tell me, sorry, Ron, we like you, but we don't have authority to talk to you about this. So that's the idea with the negotiating agreement. And we'd like very much for the council to put, it's not on the agenda for action tonight, I know, but we'd like very much for the, Council to put that on its agenda for action at its next meeting so we could start a discussion, a process. We certainly don't. do not understand. Having read the negotiating agreement months ago when it was first drafted, two months ago anyhow. don't understand that as any commitment from the city. It's an agreement to to sit down and talk with us. without anything binding, without any commitment to do anything. other than for the staff to report its findings back to the Council for further discussion and possible action or inaction. So. Thank you. If any of you have questions for me, Paul or Don, we're happy to take them, or whatever your pleasure is as to how to proceed. |
| 01:17:38.05 | Herb Weiner | Okay, any questions from the board? |
| 01:17:39.89 | Carolyn Ford | Yes, Mr. Mayor, I have a couple questions. For me? Yes, for you, Ron. I just... |
| 01:17:43.91 | Herb Weiner | For me? Yes, for you. |
| 01:17:45.14 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:17:45.18 | Ron Albert | Thank you. |
| 01:17:50.42 | Carolyn Ford | need to understand. So we have 32 units now of Rotary housing. Correct. Okay. And, um, |
| 01:17:55.01 | Herb Weiner | Correct. |
| 01:17:59.70 | Carolyn Ford | I understand the B Street area or housing unit project is always full. Is that the case for OLEMA? What is OLEMA? |
| 01:18:08.66 | Ron Albert | Correct. OLEMA is fully leased also. |
| 01:18:11.28 | Carolyn Ford | Okay. And just another question would be, Has anyone identified or does anyone have statistics on what the need for senior housing is here in Sausalito? |
| 01:18:28.56 | Ron Albert | Um... The Marin IJ did a series earlier this year, which I wish I had kept, but they referred to it as the coming gray tsunami. just the demographic trend in Marin County. And I was scrambling to find those statistics just before tonight's meeting. Over 25% of Marin County's population today is over the age of 60. And the demographic trend according to the Marin County of Aging is that will go up to one-third. So what you've got is the baby boom bubble aging. So we're going to have a much greater proportion of our population that are seniors, that are retired in the coming years. We haven't done any specific study here in Sausalito as Rotary housing, But I'm a 22-year resident, which makes me relatively new compared to some of my fellow Rotarians. And we've all got our own anecdotal experience looking around our own immediate neighborhoods as to what's going on. |
| 01:19:48.41 | Carolyn Ford | Thank you. |
| 01:19:50.62 | Herb Weiner | Other questions? |
| 01:19:53.07 | Jonathan Leone | On that point, It sounds like Rotary's rent once you make a deal with somebody who stays in place until they leave for whatever reason. |
| 01:20:00.75 | Ron Albert | Thank you. |
| 01:20:05.31 | Jonathan Leone | That's correct. So if you looked at where your rents are relative to other governmental agencies that do senior projects, for example, Fireside is one. I don't know if Fireside is a senior, but there are other senior projects around. You don't have to answer that question, but that would be something that would be interesting to put down. |
| 01:20:05.32 | Ron Albert | That's correct. |
| 01:20:24.86 | Ron Albert | Okay, I'm looking over to Reza, our manager, to see if he might know. |
| 01:20:29.59 | Jonathan Leone | Well then let me give the ancillary question to that is, when you have a vacancy, how long does it stay vacant? |
| 01:20:36.07 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, okay. |
| 01:20:37.96 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah, okay. So it's something about demand. |
| 01:20:39.14 | Ron Albert | So it's something. Yeah, it's just the natural turnover. of experience last day. Ernie Lacy, for example, was a resident at Rotary Village and unfortunately passed away much too early. And that's our most recent vacancy, and that unit took less than a month to fill. |
| 01:21:04.62 | Paul Anderson | to fill. We use the Marin County Affordable Housing Statistics, and we use a percentage of that as our base rent. A studio apartment excuse me, a one bedroom apartment now at the village, the 22 units, we have 20 of those, is $990 a month. Okay, and what would be normal in Sausalito would be someplace between $13 and $16. So it's considerably less and that's how we base it. We use the Marin County statistics when we refer to our rents. And once again, this all works. I should also, and I didn't tell you this in my presentation, our financing for Rotary Village, our Sausalito municipal bonds, tax for municipal bonds, and so we are in a position right now to be very favorable when it comes to the interest rate that we're paying. But that was, when we put that together in 2000, it was a win-win for everybody. The city got 22 units of housing and we were able to use that method. We have a structure where the bonds are, we have a line of credit in case anything ever happened. The city is completely protected with this mechanism and it's been a win-win for everybody. |
| 01:21:36.84 | Jonathan Leone | to others. |
| 01:21:37.56 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:21:37.95 | Kayla Kahn | Thank you. |
| 01:22:12.10 | Kayla Kahn | See. |
| 01:22:28.69 | Kayla Kahn | It's good. |
| 01:22:32.93 | Paul Anderson | by this. |
| 01:22:33.99 | Herb Weiner | Amen. Thank you. |
| 01:22:34.40 | Tom Harrison | Thank you. |
| 01:22:34.75 | Herb Weiner | Paul, one other thing. Rotary, some other Rotary clubs in Marin have built, in fact, what was it, San Rafael was actually one of the first ones to build housing on. I forget how many units they built, but they |
| 01:22:50.85 | Paul Anderson | They had 105, their first, which is still there and very successful. Novato Rotary has built three separate projects over the last 25 years, and they're all in place. Those are the two clubs besides the Associated Club. Ours is a little unique because we are a, we're still Rotarians on the board. It's still part of Rotary, but it's a separate corporation, a 501c3 corporation. Thank you. we are a, we're still Rotarians on the board. It's still part of Rotary, but it's a separate corporation, a 501c3 corporation. And that's something I think is important. |
| 01:23:06.04 | Herb Weiner | Main one. |
| 01:23:24.60 | Paul Anderson | Okay. |
| 01:23:26.40 | Herb Weiner | Okay, any questions? Any comments or questions from the public at this time? Okay. |
| 01:23:36.36 | David Kleiman | Good evening. David Kleiman, 15-year resident, Sausalito, 30 years in Marin. A few things. I have three minutes, correct? Yeah. I question why the HEC, the Housing Element Committee, report of October 18th last year, which stated that there were 421 auxiliary dwellings possible in Sausalito, why that is not being used as a benchmark for this, as opposed to developing new space in Sausalito. That's my first point. And I just cannot understand why we are rushing to do something when there's a report from a year ago, a year ago today, interesting, that says that there is more than adequate housing in Sausalito to meet the state mandate. Secondly, I would like to protest strongly what I said a month ago when I stood here and demanded transparency from the council. The fact that the Rotary, who I respect tremendously, and I want to say that publicly, service above self is about the best possible thing, but the fact that Ron sent me an email yesterday to say that this was on the agenda, the fact that Think Sausalito reached out to Ron on Sunday and found out that this was on the agenda does not excuse the council from its duty. You must be transparent with the residents. You know the emotion on this issue. The fact that it was a snafu, as Ron said, has charged your residents in a very unhappy manner. And if you continue not to be transparent about this issue, |
| 01:23:44.31 | Kayla Kahn | Yeah. |
| 01:25:26.89 | David Kleiman | and include the residents early and appropriately, you are going to have an upheaval on your hands. And I suggest you don't do that. Simply be transparent with your residents. Communicate effectively. Please. |
| 01:25:46.37 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Excuse me. I know it's emotional, but I really don't like the idea of having an applause. Sometimes if someone else wants to come up and say something in the other direction, it kind of defeats that. So please just let the speaker speak. |
| 01:26:10.13 | Bert Drobnis | Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Council Members. My name is Bert Drobnis. I live at 45 Anchorage Road. I've lived there for 29 years. And what a wonderful presentation by the Rotary. I'd like to commend the Rotary. No one would doubt the good they've done for the community over the past 63 years. 63 years ago when they started, the city of Sausalito, I was 13 years old living in Boston. I wasn't here. Okay, so I don't know what the landscape was. So wasn't I. Yeah. |
| 01:26:42.73 | Herb Weiner | you |
| 01:26:43.35 | Bert Drobnis | All right. And, but I've lived in the town for 29 years and I've seen a change in the landscape. The presentation reminds me of a little child that tried to do something and got caught. And is now coming back and trying to justify what they want to do in the future by all the good that they've done in the past. They tried to do this in the year 2000. They were found out at the last minute and this council chamber was filled with residents opposing the project at Butte Lincoln or whatever you want to call it. The negotiation and the Rotary's asking the council for the negotiating agreement when the other owner of the property had agreed to sell it if My understanding was, and I could be wrong, was if they could acquire the city-owned property from the city, it was found out, and again, the council chamber was filled. I agree with the gentleman. The residents of the City of Sausalito at this point do not trust the City Council. They do not trust Rotary Housing. The IDS, the senior housing below where I live was privately owned and could be privately negotiated. This is a different property. It is owned by the city. It was given to the city, and therefore, I believe I'm not a lawyer. I can't speak legalese, but my understanding is it belongs to the residents of the city of Sausalito. The residents should, in fact fact determine what happens to what they own. I brought this to the attention before Article 34, Section 1A of the California State Legislature. I ask that the City Attorney be consulted on this, which states that no low-income, low-rent housing project can be accomplished without a vote of the residents of the city. I don't know if you've contacted the city attorney before. I don't want to demand it. I'm simply asking that you do this. The constraint, again, you've got all the constraints and everything else and I hope that we can go through with this, we can look at this, and we can come to a decision, but I can tell you, I can speak for myself, I think I can voice the opinion of the entire neighborhood that lives around there, all right, they don't want it developed. Thank you very much. |
| 01:29:16.58 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:29:16.98 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:29:19.58 | Bert Drobnis | Thank you. |
| 01:29:19.60 | Herb Weiner | And it, Go ahead, you can get in line, it'll be easier, it moves it quicker. |
| 01:29:26.01 | Joe Ford | Hi, good evening, Mr. Mayor, City Council members. My name is Joe Ford. I'm a three-year resident of Sausalito. I live at 804 Butte Street. Before I moved to Sausalito, I retired after 30 years with the FBI. So, and I was an FBI agent for 26 of those years. So, I I'm coming to voice my concern about the transparency of the situation here. I'm very concerned as I look at some of the documentation on whether or not we are really fully informed on what's going on here and the intent of the Rotary here. And I believe that the Rotary is altruistic in their motivations, so I don't have any concerns about that. But as I look at just the documentation on the ENA, I'm concerned. You know, there are things in the ENA that indicate that this is going down a path. that hasn't really been fully explored by everybody in the neighborhood, hasn't been discussed with the neighbors. I'm not even sure if it's been discussed fully with the council. I am concerned about the agreement that the Rotary has with the person who wants to sell the land to them. Have we explored that? No one's seen that. I don't know if you've seen it or not. I'd like to know what that says. There are conditions on it. There's things in the ENA about a project. It's very unspecific. None of this has been, this is not a transparent process for us. And as neighbors, we want to see a transparent process. So with all due respect to the people who have been working on this, what I'd like to see is more transparency in this entire process. So we as members of the community, and I don't know all the rules and regulations, I've only been here three years in the city. I don't know how the process works, but all I know is there has to be a good transparent process and I haven't seen that. And as I look at this ENA, I could tear this apart. literally tear it apart. What do you gotta do? |
| 01:31:27.26 | Jonathan Leone | Not in here, right? |
| 01:31:28.37 | Joe Ford | The ENA. |
| 01:31:29.87 | Jonathan Leone | Amen. |
| 01:31:30.62 | Joe Ford | You haven't seen the direct DNA? Well. I've seen it. It's right here on the Internet. |
| 01:31:36.49 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 01:31:38.02 | Joe Ford | It's right on the internet. It's the exclusive negotiations agreement. |
| 01:31:41.03 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Sorry. |
| 01:31:42.07 | Joe Ford | Sorry. Okay. |
| 01:31:43.02 | Mike Kelly | There is no... It's the draft. |
| 01:31:44.34 | Joe Ford | It's the draft. It's a draft. |
| 01:31:44.98 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 01:31:45.25 | Carolyn Ford | assessment. |
| 01:31:46.23 | Linda Pfeifer | that. |
| 01:31:46.72 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. this. |
| 01:31:47.09 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 01:31:47.46 | Mike Kelly | you Thank you. |
| 01:31:47.63 | Herb Weiner | Nothing's been submitted here. |
| 01:31:49.18 | Carolyn Ford | Well, it was a draft. Point of order, Mr. Mayor. |
| 01:31:55.30 | Joe Ford | That's all I'm saying. You're asking me a question, I have it right here. Good. It's as a draft. |
| 01:32:00.74 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Thank you. |
| 01:32:06.51 | Sybil Boutillier | Good evening, Mayor and Councilmembers. I'm Sybil Boutillier. I'm your representative on the Marine Commission on Aging. Also the newest resident of Rotary Village. And just in terms of clarity, my understanding actually is that Rotary Village is not a low income property. My rent, I'm the newest resident, and my rent, I have one of the larger units, it's $17.50 that is still below market in in South Salido. but it's considerably more than a means-tested, affordable, low-income, um, facility would be And that's important because As was mentioned, we are looking at going from 24, 25 percent of seniors in Marin County to 33 percent in the next 10 years or so, and many of our residents are not under the $10,800 poverty level down the middle, a lot of us are. middle-level workers with, we could afford the kind of rent that I'm paying now, as we look to our retirement and so forth, but not necessarily a higher level of rent going forward into retirement. So I just want to make that comment because I think it's a very important one for the kind of housing that is being uh, discussed here. Um, I know nothing about the land use issues, nothing about the politics involved in this particular project. I simply want to say a couple of things about Rotary Housing that I found out in the month that I've lived there. First of all, I want to say that they have an 85-year-old maintenance man. This is a very wonderful thing to note at a time when seniors who need extra money to live on are not able to find any kind of work. So first of all, I want to commend them for that. Secondly, I want to commend them for giving an office free as I believe I could be a Roman, to Rotary Village. which the so-called slaughterhouse, which I hope that maybe the residents will be able to have some input on a change of name for that as that is improved. But anyway, there's an office here. They've given it to South Slido Village to use. And South Slido Village, as you know, is doing a great job. So I just wanted to commend them. I have been doing a horseback survey since I moved in, speaking to every single resident that I've been able to meet. And everyone I've spoken to has said one, They're grateful to be living there. Two, they're very happy to be living there. So I can't say anything about the political issues of the land use issues, but I just want to say that the Rotary Village is very successful, and the kind of housing that they are planning or developing for us is very necessary in Marin. Thank you. |
| 01:35:31.37 | Nicholas Tesley | Council members, thanks for your time tonight. I have a lot to say, so I'm just going to read. Yeah, just state your name, please. My name is Nicholas Tesley. I own 15 Anchorage, which is directly overlooking the proposed development site on Butte Street |
| 01:35:35.00 | Herb Weiner | Yeah, just state your name, please. |
| 01:35:43.34 | Nicholas Tesley | On Saturday, September 11th, we held a community meeting at the Anchorage Clubhouse to discuss this topic. Ron Albert attended and was given an opportunity to share his position. Since very few people have ever actually seen the park-like valley that would be lost, I invited those interested to have a bird's-eye view of it from my balcony. Mr. Albert and about five or six others joined me, several of whom are here tonight. Everyone ooed and aahed about the thickets of trees and the wooded hillsides, including Mr. Albert, who said, what a beautiful tree. We would never church to you like this. He was referring to a giant old oak that rises 50 feet from the forest floor to the very base of my balcony. I started telling him about the families of deer that move quietly beneath its canopy and the massive turkey vultures which return each spring morning to dry their wings in the sun. But his attention was already elsewhere. Already he had turned my invitation into an opportunity to scout the logistics for his project. To no one in particular, he mumbled, That looks pretty flat down there. I think we definitely put something down there. And he was pointing to the exact spot where that big old oak tree grows. Then he turned to me and said, I know some people who'd be really interested in seeing the site from up here. Do you mind if we come back some time? I told him we had a new tenant moving in soon and that it wasn't appropriate. At that point, a woman who was with us said, this is a great place. I wish I could rent it. which Mr. Albert then added, Yeah, it would make a fantastic construction headquarters. We could oversee the entire project from up here. His whole attitude was grossly insensitive and it belies that beneath his appearance of openness and community goodwill, He's already got his bulldozers running. While we were out there on the balcony, Jackie Reynolds asked him, Why here, Ron? Isn't it a shame? Several low-impact alternatives were mentioned. But he said that this is the last piece of land that's big enough for what he wants to do and that none of the other options are very cost effective. The truth is, this option is only cost effective if the city of Sausalito gives the publicly owned half of that land to Rotary as part of the deal we're discussing here tonight. And the more units that are constructed on that land, the closer City Council is to comply in Sacramento's high impact mandate. It's a win-win for Rotary, in fact, and for the city council, and a huge loss for the rest of us. Many of us have invested everything in our homes there. And the real estate market has not been kind to us these last few years. We've been hanging on in hopes that Sausalito will bounce back But now I'm hearing from neighbors who say they'd rather dump their homes on the market and short sell than enter years of construction and the damage it will bring. This, of course, would be the final nail in the coffin for home values in that area. No one is against affordable housing for our seniors, but I want to point out that many of the neighbors who will be most adversely impacted by all this are in fact seniors themselves who live in the area with limited resources. Finally, Rotary does act under a guiding principle known as the four-way test. This four-way test asks, of the things we think, say, or do, is it the truth? Is it fair to all concerned? Will it build goodwill and better friendships? Will it be beneficial to all concerned? And in this case, I think Rotary has lost its way and I say firmly that the answer to all of those questions is a resounding no. City Council members, Keeping this publicly loaned land up for development without full public consent would be a reckless, short-sighted, and irreversible mistake. Thank you very much. |
| 01:38:47.22 | Warren Novak | Hi, I'm Warren Novak. I've lived in Sausalito on and off for about 42 years. Mm. I was a senior VP with a very large residential development firm and was responsible for acquiring land for over 10,000 homes, unfortunately not a Marin. So I've got a pretty good handle on... land, land values, and what can be built on and what cannot be built on. I think you need something like rotary housing here. you need to supplement Um, the low-income or lower-cost housing. This piece of land is not the piece to do it on. Possibly, maybe they could buy it. and swap. with something else the city may have. there'll be a flat land piece. This piece of land, if you put two units on it, wooden pencil. I'm very familiar with it, I've walked it, in spite of the poison oak and in spite of the the blackberries and brambles and whatever. And it's really not a a good building site, although in Sausalito you can build on any site. which has been proven. But as far as doing it economically, to getting any more than a few, maybe just two, three, four units on there. would be Very costly. The engineering on that alone I think you'd be looking at in the millions of dollars. to get in units. That's not including your I mean, that's your site work. That's not including the cost of engineers, which is going to cost quite a lot of money. It's just a very, very expensive place to build. And I don't see where it's gonna benefit because you can't get enough units on there. to really make it pencil out. So it might be a good opportunity for Rotary to buy it and swap with another piece of land the city may have that's flat and buildable. that might work out better. Thank you. |
| 01:41:01.55 | Herb Weiner | Okay. brilliant |
| 01:41:07.99 | Jean Stott | Hello. Thank you for giving me this time. I live, my name's Jean Stott. I live at 116 Anchorage Road. I have tremendous respect for everything that Rotary has done so far. Um, When we made the site tour the other day on October 8th, There was tremendous problems with cars going back and forth up and down the road. I think any building over here on the Butte Street property would cause horrendous traffic problems. I think listening here, one of my big concerns With all my respect for Rotary, is Once Rotary has an agreement, to use city resources to investigate the property, it almost feels like some sort of done deal has been made, some marriage has been made, that It's just... a feeling of slow railroading. that this will be there. we already have Rotary housing, which increased the traffic on Olima on Butte on Tomales. Anyway. It's just, You have strong people, a strong organization. There's old friendships that must be going on between the people in government and Rotary, they're all good people, This is just disregarding. the impact on the people who live there, and I agree with what the other people have said. Uh, Most of the people at the Anchorage are seniors. and we would be greatly impacted by this. So nothing more. |
| 01:43:15.22 | Brian Durnian | Brian Durnian, 802 Butte, 25-year resident. This is not about us versus Rotary, as Paul and Dom will tell you, we worked with them in the neighborhood when they were going through the approval for the existing Rotary Village. We worked things out as far as getting the units down a little bit and landscaping. Um... The upper site, so it's not in my backyard type thing, it is there. We worked with them on the other one. We like it. The problem is this new site is not the right site. All you had to do was go through the tour. You couldn't even get on the site except for 20 feet in. You live in that neighborhood in the wintertime. You see the water coming down view. You talk to Public Works. they will tell you the issues that are there. It's the wrong site. It doesn't take much to go on the county GIS site, as their architect will tell you. you can pull up a topo for free. you look at the 30% or greater slopes, It doesn't take a genius to figure out You're going to need a bridge in. You've got erosion control issues. And that's going to be for senior housing. I don't think so. Thank you. |
| 01:44:42.22 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. |
| 01:44:43.23 | Brian Durnian | Thank you. |
| 01:44:51.72 | Abe Christensen | Hi, my name is Abe Christensen. I'm the president of Sausalito Rotary Club. And I would like to say thank you all very much for coming out. This process is really, really remarkable. and I can't be... Thank you. I'd like to just, I'm a seven year resident of Sausalito and I live at the 604 Easterby Street, so I'm very much a newbie in town. And, but Rotary has been a great group of people, new members and of the community and long-time members of the community. We meet every week. Thursdays at noon at the Sauceliter Yacht Club. So it's a very open organization. It's open to everybody in the community. And what I'm hearing is a call for transparency. And I think what's happening is that Uh, Nothing has happened. There's nothing happening. So there's no project developed yet. There's the property sitting there undeveloped. There's been a lot of discussions about the property and discussions with the half owners. But we haven't been able to discuss with the city anything. So the idea that there's no transparency is because there's no discussion with So we would very much like to begin some discussion. We believe that there's a viable opportunity here at this site, and maybe it's for – we have no idea of the number of units or if it's a small area or a large area. And we would work very closely, as we have in the past, with the neighbors in the area. Um, And so in order to further this idea of transparency, the resources of the city that might be used, not engineering resources, it's merely staff time in discussion, the engineering or clearing of areas to look at some, to see if we could possibly build, those costs would be borne by Rotary. So, I'm very, very happy to see this process furthered. And yes, we do believe that there's a viable opportunity here. And of course, we are trying to further this opportunity, but nobody's trying to railroad anybody. It's merely, and we invite you to come to the clubs on Thursday and sit and talk with our members and find out what people's ideas are and how we're 50 people from, and almost all of us are residents of Sausalito. So we invite you to come and join in the process. We hope that we can find a great solution for the city of Sausalito. Thank you very much. |
| 01:47:56.81 | Michael Rex | I'm Michael Rex. I'm speaking as an advocate of a mix of housing values here in town. I came to this town because I was able to find an affordable place to live. I was able to buy a houseboat for $7,000. Didn't have plumbing and it was sinking, but, you know, it got me here. And I think we, It's important to understand that a mix of housing values in town creates and preserves a mix of uh, people types. And a mix of people gives us a mix of ideas, and it keeps us open-minded. It helps us provide not only for our seniors, but be able for our children to continue to live in town. It creates places for our workers to live so they don't have a long commute and they could share their family life with the town folk. I admire Rotary, of which I'm a member. for trying to preserve this mix of housing values here in town because it isn't easy. And they say it takes the village. It takes all of us working together to find those opportunities. I lived 10 years on Tamales Street, so I know the neighborhood. Um, There was a. Cue and cry about the development of the existing project, housing project on Olima. It's going to destroy the neighborhood, ruin our housing values, create traffic chance. Well, none of that happened. I don't know what will happen if we put housing further up the hill. on a site very similar to where the Anchorage apartments currently exist. I certainly know you can build on steep hillsides, but one of the speakers who said this isn't the right site, several speakers have said that. They may be right. That's all we want to find out. When I say we, I'm not speaking of me, I'm speaking of the Rotary Housing Board, which is a separate organization from the Rotary Club of Sausalito. Uh, But, When I say we, I'm speaking of this whole community. There are so few opportunities to create affordable housing in this town where the land costs so much. We owe it to ourselves. to Consider every potential site that presents itself. and consider it openly together. And if we decide that, in fact, it's not the right place, then we move on. But because those opportunities are where I encourage this consul to give us all the opportunity to look at this site. Thank you. |
| 01:50:48.58 | Jan Fidla | Jan Fidla at 501 Olima Street. I think we need to go back a little bit in history. It is possible for Sosavito to close down the whole Golden Gate Bridge. as it did in 1982. because I lived on Edwards and I was the only one on the Golden Gate Bridge for two days. because the Freeway, very waterlogged and collapsed, onto the freeway. and then it collapsed on Bridgeway, so there was no way out of Sassavira. So think on any site, you have to be aware of water and freeways. |
| 01:51:39.15 | Nancy Osborne | Mayor Wainer and council members, I'm Nancy Osborne from Kendall Court. I had no intention of opening my mouth tonight and I don't really have, I just have questions because I'm so confused as to how this relates to the HECC proposal or proposition that possibly This is a site for affordable housing. And I was at the HECC meeting when they talked about putting the possibility of putting 40 or 50 units? Is this the same piece of property? Thank you. 86, 87. Whatever. I'm so confused. And if For some reason or other, Rotary doesn't get permission to build here, Can HEC and HUD and all these other supersede and come in and say, well, they couldn't, but we can. I'm just really bewildered, and I just wondered if anybody has answers to these yet. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:52:45.39 | Herb Weiner | Keith. |
| 01:52:51.31 | Keith Stone King | Keith Stone King, 42 Lincoln Drive. First thing I want to do is put to rest that there's dissension within Rotary. There's always been dissension in Rotary for the 27 years that I've been there. And it's what makes our club very active. I want to bring back and focus, I think, on two key elements. Thank you. The first element is I think this presentation is too soon, that we've got the cart leading the horse. This property is one of the properties in the affordable housing where the consultants are looking at is maybe naming it as one of the properties that could be developed for that. We need to address that issue first. Second, The city has a 50% ownership in this property. Thank you. If I read the Constitution of California correctly, it says that you have to put this before a vote of the people as to what they want done. We don't know what the true... Do they want to maintain this property? and keep it as open space. If they do, that puts the Rotary issue at dead. If not, and they're willing to agree that Rotary would be primary for senior housing there, then that should be But we shouldn't be making any kind of agreement yet until we handle those two issues. Issue number one, Let's get the affordable housing issue taken care of and issue number two is put this for a vote before the people to determine what they want done with the land because it's not Rotary's land, it's not City Council's land, it belongs to the citizens of this community. and that's all I get to say. Okay, thank you, Keith. |
| 01:54:58.97 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:54:59.97 | Keith Stone King | you |
| 01:55:00.13 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Since no one else. you Anybody else? Okay. Let's bring it back up here. Any comments? |
| 01:55:10.28 | Jonathan Leone | Could Mary answer the question about the Constitution of the State of California? |
| 01:55:15.68 | Mary Wagner | I'd be happy to research it for you. I don't have the answer off the top of my head. |
| 01:55:17.77 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:55:17.84 | Herb Weiner | Yeah. |
| 01:55:18.11 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 01:55:19.39 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 01:55:20.10 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 01:55:22.10 | Herb Weiner | And as you know, we really can't make comments back to you when you get up and make your comments. So with that, I'll There's nothing else on that, so let's move on to the next slide. |
| 01:55:34.74 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. Yeah. I just have a comment, just a brief comment on process, because it concerns me so much that the way that this was put on the agenda with six words, Rotary Housing Update by Ron Albert, that was it. there was no even a paragraph description, no mention of Butte Lincoln, no awareness that the citizens of the cityito that this was even going to be discussed or that Rotary has, you know, presented this and raised this. So I am very concerned. No summary description of the presentation, no staff report, no copy of any PowerPoint slides, no community awareness whatsoever. And I just want to stress that this council, we cannot allow this to happen again. We need to be explicit on controversial items like this. We need to have community outreach, resident awareness. This land, as we've heard, belongs to the residents of Sausalito, not the five people up here on this dais, not city staff, not city hall. It belongs to the people. And the people need to be aware of it when we discuss it. |
| 01:57:00.03 | Herb Weiner | I feel like |
| 01:57:03.74 | Carolyn Ford | Mr. Mayor. |
| 01:57:05.36 | Herb Weiner | Go ahead. |
| 01:57:07.62 | Carolyn Ford | I fully agree we need to have transparency. This has been one of several issues that I think the city has not been transparent on. And I think that we also need to consider where we are with the housing element before we even address this. So there are a couple of things going on here. And Nancy Osborne raised a very good question when she mentioned that. I believe that if we're going to address this issue again, we need a full staff report. It needs to be on the public agenda, as it was tonight, but with a full staff report so that people can see what's going on. And then we go from there. |
| 01:57:57.74 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Let me say one thing, nothing is going on, all right, nothing. I'm sitting up here as your mayor saying to us, there's no proposals, there's nothing that's come up to us. And as far as transparency goes, If the town doesn't know about Butte Street now, it will never know about Butte Street. All right? So, but we have a process. You know, I came from I think most of you know my background. where there was no process, you worked. We have a process up here in government And we're going to follow that process. And we're not going to make it political. We're not going to play any games. We're going to be straight and forward. And that's the way it will be. Thank you. |
| 01:58:45.84 | Mike Kelly | Yeah, I'd just say that this is the process, getting you out here tonight to give your comments. And to my knowledge, I've been in one meeting where this was discussed and the discussion was let's bring it out and put it on the agenda so that people have an opportunity to understand what the issues are. So that was the extent of the conversation. Now, Rotary has its desires and motives and they've done great things for the town. having gone through this process twice before. They understand the limits and the hoops they're going to have to jump through, having. sat on the Planning Commission for the Lima Street property. and shaved a few units off that property to their dismay still today. that It's a difficult process and it's meant to be exhaustive so that your comments and the impacts of parking and traffic and development standards all can be reviewed in time. But as far as the city's ownership of this piece of property, There is no agreement. There is nothing signed. There are no handshakes. There is no wink-wink, nudge-nudge going on here. So In my mind, the motive is a good one. The motive is to allow people to afford to live in Sausalito. Period. And that is a good motive. I don't care what side of the issue you're on. If you disagree with that one, then you're going to disagree with any sort of uh, Incentivized Housing Program. I hope people don't disagree with that because that would be a sad state of affairs. as far as this particular lot and its deepness the water course that runs down the part of it. and the trees and protecting all of that, those are all valid points and valid issues. and You know, we have restrictions on all those things. That's why people hate our zoning ordinance, because it's restricted, right? So some days you hate it, Some days you like it, depends on what side of the line you're on on that particular issue. Um, But at the end of the day, we have a problem in Sausalito where people are getting older and having to leave Sausalito. And you're having issues that people just can't afford to live here even with the real estate prices where they are. So that diversity is, I think, Michael Rex spoke to diversity. We don't have any diversity of race. 90% of the people are white. That's 90. I just checked it. In the 2010 census. So we need diversity of means to give it a diverse town. And that makes us a little different from a lot of the towns in Marin. And I hope we retain that and strive. You have to work for that. It doesn't just happen. So, but as far as transparency It's a nice buzzword to throw around. There is no ulterior motives, at least on my part, and my eyes will be on this project if it goes anywhere, both for a good motive and to make sure it fits if it does go to that point. |
| 02:01:59.93 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Thank you very much. We're going to move on. Next item will be the update on the resident parking smart cards. |
| 02:02:14.66 | Herb Weiner | Want to take up the... All right, we're going to take up to a five-minute break. |
| 02:02:40.40 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. . the last one. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:02:51.81 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:02:58.69 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. Please. Bye. Thank you. |
| 02:03:06.19 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:03:06.29 | Eric Abdullah | Yeah. |
| 02:03:06.30 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:03:06.40 | Eric Abdullah | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:03:27.01 | Eric Abdullah | That's good. you Thank you. Yeah. |
| 02:03:32.68 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:03:32.73 | Eric Abdullah | I was going to say like I'm going to say I'm going to say I know I'm going to say 90 major it's all on the record is he really he's really |
| 02:03:51.97 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. Well, let's talk about. |
| 02:04:17.97 | Eric Abdullah | I mean, he doesn't have an attention. |
| 02:04:22.12 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. close. |
| 02:04:30.51 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:04:43.49 | Eric Abdullah | Yeah. |
| 02:04:43.86 | Herb Weiner | you |
| 02:04:44.73 | Eric Abdullah | How many months are you going to order me out? That's a good idea. |
| 02:04:55.79 | Eric Abdullah | What was that? |
| 02:05:01.31 | Eric Abdullah | Yes. |
| 02:05:52.98 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. |
| 02:05:55.14 | Herb Weiner | I love it. I love it. I'm a pirate. I'm a pirate. |
| 02:06:03.29 | Eric Abdullah | . you you |
| 02:06:48.53 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. you you Thank you. you Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:07:18.97 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. you Thank you. |
| 02:07:28.73 | Herb Weiner | . |
| 02:08:16.31 | Eric Abdullah | This is some residential. you you Thank you. |
| 02:08:48.97 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. |
| 02:09:32.98 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Amen. |
| 02:12:49.98 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. you you Thank you. you Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:13:10.55 | Herb Weiner | Okay, we're back in session. Everybody take their seats, please. |
| 02:13:17.95 | Herb Weiner | Yeah. |
| 02:13:21.95 | Herb Weiner | Okay. All right, we're back with Curtis now. And we're going to have an update on the resident parking smart cards. |
| 02:13:36.87 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:13:36.89 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:13:37.02 | Unknown | Good evening, Mayor and City Council. Mayor, may I approach the bench, please? |
| 02:13:37.55 | Herb Weiner | City Council. |
| 02:13:41.81 | Unknown | Mmm. |
| 02:13:42.14 | Mike Kelly | you Ah. |
| 02:13:47.89 | Mike Kelly | I thought it had to show up within a 10 minute time frame on Thursday the 15th. Who put this together? The army or what's happening here? |
| 02:13:50.78 | Herb Weiner | on thursday the fifteen will put this together or what's happening here |
| 02:14:09.79 | Unknown | A team, a shirt that's on the... Smart card. Thank you. Thank you. Just as a little history, the way Maybe. How am I doing this wrong? |
| 02:14:27.07 | Herb Weiner | You need to know some of the history of it. |
| 02:14:29.18 | Unknown | Yes. Awesome. you It's just not me. Tonight is the premiere of my video that me and Elliot Holt did on the parking services. So I do have a couple people in the audience just to heckle me tonight. That would be the chief and Mike Langford and Jonathan Goldman. |
| 02:14:51.37 | Eric Abdullah | Mike Wink. Yeah. and Jonathan. Thank you. |
| 02:14:56.77 | Unknown | And you have... |
| 02:15:02.21 | Unknown | We do. |
| 02:15:09.62 | Unknown | You want to just hit the space bar? |
| 02:15:10.41 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. What do you think we do for? you Don't go wrong with all those floors. I'm going to space floor. |
| 02:15:14.58 | Unknown | with Thank you. of the |
| 02:15:20.87 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:15:20.97 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 02:15:21.36 | Mike Kelly | You want to. |
| 02:15:21.87 | Unknown | Next slide. Just as a little history, when I first started here, residents had a little sticker on their left side rear view mirror, and as they exited the lot, they would talk to the parking attendant who would deduct their three hours and charge them accordingly. When we went to a gated system, we had a proximity card where people tagged in and out, and they were billed based on their actual time in there. Of the approximately 1,600 proximity cards, only 15% of the residents actually used it enough to be billed. We received approximately $22,000 a year in revenue based on resident card use. And we didn't process amounts less than $5 because it wasn't cost effective. So every year we wrote off about $1,200 in resident parking fees. Then with the new APARC system, while we did that development, we went to a hang tank system. Residents would hang the tag from the rear view mirror, or after it broke, they put it on the dash. The issue we had with that, there was no way to actually track actual usage, and at times, residents had abused their privilege. Next slide, please. It actually took a lot longer than we all thought to develop the resident card, and I apologize for that. It was something new that was never developed before, the ability to give residents three hours of free parking. It took quite a bit of development on the APARC side to get us there. Next slide, please. not to confuse you but when you put your resident card in the machine it will show you that Charlie Francis just gave you two there. Not to confuse you but when you put your resident card in the machine it will show you that Charlie Francis just gave you $2,000. Thank you. Charlie was here, he'd probably be coming out of his seat. But they're actually credits. And that's the only way the machine can recognize the smart card is that when you go into lot one and you want to park two hours, you put $6 onto the card. It deducts from the card. The card is no way attached to your billing. It's just a way for the machine to recognize your resident and print out a receipt. with Charlie Francis. When... |
| 02:17:46.66 | Herb Weiner | We gotta see him on Sunday. |
| 02:17:48.76 | Unknown | As you leave the parking space, the sensor notices that you left, and if you had gone over three hours, the system would generate a report. And if you were in excess of a few dollars and a quarter, we would bill you. Next slide. And here's just the posted rates because if a resident parks in lot one and stays over three hours, they're responsible for the standard rates. So we were actually telling people if they were going to stay longer than a few hours over their three-hour privilege, that they should probably go to lot four. And there's also a commuter card, which is a $4 flat rate in lot three, which would probably be a better deal on some days. In addition, residents receive free parking from 6 p.m. to 7 a.m., so technically a resident could use their three hours today and park at 3 p.m. and not leave until 10 a.m. the following day without being charged for anything. When we came up with a rollout plan, we were very concerned about 1,600 to 1,900 residents coming to either the police department or lot one booth. So we tried to come up with a plan that split them up between three days, knowing that we would probably get 300 to 400 per day. We did post this in South South Currents. We placed it on the city and police websites. We did NICS alerts, Twitter alerts. We sent press releases to the IJ. They didn't post it as far as I know, but on their website they actually posted our Twitter announcement talking about the rollout plan. The MarinScope posted it, but my understanding the newspaper did not come out until Saturday instead of Wednesday. expect. We had our distributions location in lot three behind the ICE house. We had it on October 13th, 14th, and 15th. We had additional staff on hand to hand out the cards. And also we had one or two people that were by the pay stations to do hands-on training with the cards. During these three dates, we handed out 510 resident cards. Here's the picture of Saturday. We did learn some lessons on Tuesday and Friday about the best way to distribute the cards, and by Saturday, we had the system down packed, and I can't remember a line of more than two or three people on Saturday. Both Thursday and Friday, it seemed like 3 o'clock, everybody was there. And then after 4, just a few people showed up. Next. Here's a picture of one of the parking attendants at the pay station. And I believe that's Dana Whitson in the picture. Yeah. Here's one email we got back, we sent to the chief talking about that she liked the experience |
| 02:21:11.79 | Ron Albert | Um, |
| 02:21:15.68 | Unknown | Yes. Never. Never. |
| 02:21:17.39 | Keith Stone King | ever. Never. |
| 02:21:21.22 | Unknown | Okay. Next slide. Okay. Starting tomorrow, residents with existing hang tags can go down to the lot one booth and get their resident cards. I know that Elliott Holt, our parking lot supervisor, is planning to have extra people on hand to give people some instructions about how to use the cards. Starting the 24th, people that have new applications can go down to the lot one booth and get their And depending on load, if someone without a hang tag shows up, they'll probably issue a card. So we're not going to just turn away people just out of principle. We do plan to have another date. I think it's important to have the time to do hands-on training with the older population, how to use the system. And we're planning to phase out the hang tags within about a month. I have to say that this is a draft video that you're about to see, and there's some editing that Rhett is going to do. Michaela Ellis helped shoot the video, so here for the first time in public. Autograph copies will be made available later. |
| 02:23:17.20 | Elliot Holt | Elliot Holt here, lead parking attendant with the City of Saucido parking department. I'm here to talk to you about the City of Saucido residential parking smart cards and how they work with the blue machines installed in the downtown area. Now this blue machine is referred to as a multi-space meter and will service any space in any of the four downtown municipal parking lots. And this card works in all of them. |
| 02:23:49.48 | Elliot Holt | Here I am in the downtown area. I have my card ready to go at one of the blue pay stations. I've already parked and I have the space number remembered. So I'm going to go ahead and start by putting the card in the card slot, push it all the way in, leave it in for the whole transaction. It'll ask you for a three digit number. That's the space number where you parked. Remember your space number. It's going to be a three digit code. So if you parked in space six or 16, there will be zeros preceding that number. Press the green button to continue to the next step. It'll ask you then to press the add time button. Each time you press it, it will select a dollar amount. Press the green button to complete the transaction. You were sealed in for an out here at the bottom. Take your seat. Take your cards. and display this receipt on the dashboard. Additionally, If you don't know how long you're going to spend in the downtown area, you can be generous when adding time during that step. You're only going to be charged for the time years. |
| 02:24:47.60 | Unknown | Hi, I'm in Canada Curtis School with the Saskia Police Department. I'm here to introduce your new Breslin parking car. This gives social residents the ability to park for three hours for free in any of the downtown lots. the cars. replaces your current resident hang tag, which is to expire after Thanksgiving of this year. Starting October 19th, Sawstown residents who have preregistered for this program can pick up their parking cards in the Municipal Parking Lot 1 booth. Each parking card is preloaded with 2000 parking credits. These parking credits have no cash value. Every time you insert your parking card into one of the multi-space meters, it will deduct a set amount of credits based on the amount of time you enter into a machine. If you do receive a citation based on your usage of the resident parking program, please come to the Sasso Cruz Department front counter where we can look into the matter and possibly dismiss the ticket on the spot. For more information, refer to the parking section at the Police Department's website. |
| 02:26:04.11 | Herb Weiner | And that's not sold in stores. |
| 02:26:06.29 | Unknown | No, no, no, no. That was about one of the most stressful experiences I've ever had. Someone saying action, and don't forget anything. |
| 02:26:07.20 | Herb Weiner | No, no. |
| 02:26:11.03 | Herb Weiner | I've never had. |
| 02:26:12.36 | Kayla Kahn | So, |
| 02:26:16.15 | Unknown | Next slide. Just as a recap, when you come up to the machine, You go ahead and fully insert the card into the machine. One issue we're having is people treat it as an ATM, and they try to do a quick in-and-out swipe, which will cause an error message on the screen. Go ahead. It will give you the prompt to leave the card in. Next. Then enter the three-digit space number. Next. It will ask you to confirm with the green button. Next. Next. Then you'll add time. It's in dollar amounts, but since Jean Schertz, our parking analyst, won't give me a resident card, I had to use money to print out a receipt. Next slide. Then once you confirm your time, it'll print out a receipt. Next. What we're asking residents to do for the first two months, and this is actually optional, is to put the receipt on the dash. And the reason why we're asking people to do that is that if they put the wrong space number in or do anything, if the parking enforcement officer sees the receipt on the dash, they won't give the person a ticket. One thing that we want to do is make sure that residents would not get citations. It was very important for us to keep public support for this program because it's something new and residents, I believe, enjoyed the ease of the resident's hang tag and I got some negative feedback about going to the card. But again, we're asking people to put the receipt on the dash for the first few months. And then our APARC, the company, has created a registry for your license plate numbers. So each resident could have two license plate numbers attached to their resident card. And what that does is when the parking enforcement officer is about to write a resident, a citation will come up on their screen that it's a resident and do you want to continue. It's not going to get a resident out of a, a red zone or straddling, but if it's something to do with a use of resin card, they'll at first put a warning notice on the car, but if we do have continual abuses of the system, they'll end up citing. And then what we're doing also is that Um, There is a process on the back of citations for taking care or the appeal process. What we're doing is if somebody comes up front counter and says, I tried using my resident card, I got a ticket, they're going to take it right at front counter and dismiss it on the spot. Next. What's next? I know that there's been some talk about allowing nonresidents into the system, and that could be a future discussion about whether or not we want to allow nonresidents to have the same privileges as a resident. Personally, I believe that a nonresident should be charged for that privilege. What that charge would be would be up for discussion. And we're also looking at expanding the multi-space meters to the on-street parking. We do need to tackle the wireless communication signal strength in the downtown area before we can go anything any further with the process. So do any questions? |
| 02:29:59.82 | Unknown | It is live. And the cards I gave you, you do have to, again, talk to Elliot Holt. They're not actually valid until he enters in the system. So he'll send you an email and get you the application mail. All right. |
| 02:30:17.02 | Herb Weiner | Okay, good. Thank you. |
| 02:30:17.51 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:30:17.61 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. |
| 02:30:17.63 | Unknown | THANK YOU. |
| 02:30:17.68 | Linda Pfeifer | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:30:18.05 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:30:18.23 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:30:18.28 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:30:18.77 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:30:20.83 | Herb Weiner | Any questions from the public at this time? |
| 02:30:21.05 | Linda Pfeifer | and a |
| 02:30:25.00 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Thank you, Curtis. Also, what we've done is the buses can get their permits from one of the towers. you |
| 02:30:38.92 | Herb Weiner | Mr. Mayor... |
| 02:30:40.64 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:30:40.71 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:30:40.75 | Mike Kelly | I suggest we switch the order of two of these items to time so people were waiting for certain item. There's item the last item E. I think there's at least a couple of people waiting for E. The West Yost one. Can we just switch that order with D and so that there. You know, I think. |
| 02:30:40.76 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:30:59.80 | Herb Weiner | I don't think. Thank you. |
| 02:31:01.06 | Mike Kelly | they get up there |
| 02:31:01.97 | Herb Weiner | in the morning. Okay. Is that okay? Yes. Do we need a motion for that, Mary? I'll make that motion. Okay. Is there a second? Second. Okay. All in favor? All right. Okay. Let's... |
| 02:31:04.27 | Mike Kelly | Is that okay? Yes. We need a motion for that, Mayor. Thank you. |
| 02:31:17.74 | Herb Weiner | So, are we... What do we do? You got the fire. OK. Fire. Quarterly. You got the fire department. OK. Jim, the fire department report quarterly. |
| 02:31:19.93 | Mike Kelly | What do we think? You got the fire. No, you've got the fire department. Okay. |
| 02:31:31.59 | Herb Weiner | Jim Irving. The color works for you, by the way. It works. You are in the pink. |
| 02:31:34.24 | Jim Irving | Where are you? Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor and Council Members. You know, it actually, the reason I'm wearing pink is that I washed a white shirt with a red shirt. I stole that from Curtis. |
| 02:31:50.54 | Herb Weiner | . |
| 02:31:51.38 | Jim Irving | So I do have the background pink here too. So this is a quarterly report from the first of the year through the end of September 30th. Next slide. Just to explain why I'm wearing pink is that countywide, all firefighters in Marin County are wearing pink to support breast cancer awareness. And we're doing that from October 17th, yesterday, through next Sunday, which is the 23rd. What I'm going to talk about tonight is response information, fire prevention, and then our CERT program. Just to kind of remind you of what we have in terms of our fire department, I wanted to just go over that real briefly. We run three Type 3 engines. Those are all risk or structure fire engines. One Type 3 engine, it's a wildland engine. Two command vehicles, those are what our battalion chiefs drive. one ladder truck. Two ambulances, one here in Sausalito, one in Taomopias Valley. Rescue unit, which is in our Strawberry Station. Fireboat, obviously here in Sausalito. Also an inflatable rescue boat, which is also here in Sausalito. And then we have two regional units that we staff. And one of those is a USAR Swift Water Rescue Team. It's part of the Marin County Urban Search and Rescue Team. And then we also staff a hazardous materials unit, which is also here in Sausalito. |
| 02:33:20.60 | Jim Irving | Just to look at the responses for the entire agency thus far this year, a total of 2,268 calls. I'm going to put my glasses on so I can see that. Of that, we have 66 fires, two overpressures, and that's typically usually like propane tanks from barbecues, that sort of thing. Obviously, a rescue EMS makes up the vast majority of the calls we do at 1475. Hazardous materials at 70. Service calls, these are what we call sort of public service calls. Those are things that are non-emergency where we go out and assist the public with certain things. We don't actually do cats out of trees, but that sort of thing. Maybe assisting people with their smoke detectors, things like that. Then good intent calls, and what those mean is those are actually things that were reported as fires but turned out to be something else. That would be smoke checks, people call for smoke. Quite often we get reports of fires that turn out to be barbecues, things like that. So there's something where it was assumed to be a fire but it turned out to be something else. And then fire alarms, 178. Weather reported incidents, those would be your trees down, flooding, et cetera, and then other non-categorized types of things. For Sausalito. This is the response out of station one only so it doesn't include the other areas. Fires 28, overpressure 1, 728 medicals, 35 hazmat, 103 service calls, 79 good intent, 104 fire alarms, five weather related, and then no other categories. If we look at the types of fires we have, actual building fires, and again, this is in just Sausalito. This is not Southern Marin wide. Six building fires, four cooking or kitchen fires, six trash or robust fires. That might be dumpsters, trash cans, that sort of thing. Two commercial vehicles. Quite often those are buses or motor homes, two passenger vehicles, two boat fires as well, and then three vegetation fires, and then two other or non-categorized for a total fire loss of $32,000 in Sausalito. If you look at our rescue calls for EMS, we have 646 medicals excluding vehicle accidents. Then if you look at vehicle accidents with injuries, 19. Vehicle versus pedestrian, 10. Vehicle accidents, no injuries, 27. Then elevator rescues, we actually had two elevator rescues in Sausalito this year. water water rescues, we had 12, which is kind of a significant increase this year. Area-wide, I think we're at about 20 or 22. So we seem to be seeing a lot more water incidents this year. And then other uncategorized are three. |
| 02:36:32.08 | Herb Weiner | Right. |
| 02:36:42.39 | Jim Irving | And hazardous materials, gasoline spills to natural gas leaks, fairly common, oil spills, other chemical hazards. And this can be anything from pool chemicals to battery acid, People find stuff in their garage and they go to move it and it spills out and they call us and we wind up having to deal with the hazardous materials there. Power lines down for arcing electrical equipment, eight, and then other unspecified hazardous conditions, eight. When we look at our fire prevention, we currently have a new fire prevention specialist who's been working for us for about a year. He's been able to streamline our plan review process such that the turnaround time for the fire department plan review has been reduced by 50 percent. So I think we're doing a real good job in that category. Also, if you look at our primary and fire inspections, if you look over the past few years compared to this year, you'll see a significant increase. And, you know, over the years, I think that I've expressed to this council that our fire prevention efforts down here have not been up to par. And I think that Fred Hilliard, our fire prevention specialist, is doing a great job of bringing us back up to where we should be. And I'm real proud of him, and he's doing a great job for us. The other thing is that we were able to adopt a new fire code this year, which obviously you were a part of, and Fred did a great job in getting that through. We also do a lot of public education events. We our fire safe trailer at the schools you know we get out and try to make contact with the schools and teach fire safety in the schools and the last thing is our community emergency response team one of the the big things we've done is we've secured a VHF high band radio frequency for disaster use by our SIR teams. And that was a pretty significant event for us because in the past we were stuck with either using the little small, you know, FRS radios or GMRS radios or using, relying on the ham radios from RACES. And unfortunately, a lot of the RACES people are getting older and not being involved. So by getting these radio frequencies licensed, we're able to train our CERT people in the use of the radio and allow them to simply operate the radio themselves. We placed a third disaster trailer in service here at the Sausalito Fire Station. We now have one of these in each of our areas, so one in Strawberry, one in Tamalpais Valley, and one here. And the whole idea of this disaster trailer is that it has all the supplies needed for a CERT team to operate in a disaster. The other thing is they become self-reliant because what we've relied on in the past is for them to actually just take this out by themselves and operate in addition to the fire department without, you know, having the fire department have to respond to every situation. What we've also done is we've designated vehicles for CERT response. And what we've done is actually similar to what the police department has done with their VIPPS program. And we've actually acquired vehicles. Sorry, Jonathan, more vehicles. We've actually, actually we haven't acquired vehicles. We've used vehicles that we were surplusing out. We've used some older pickup trucks to, we've had them logoed with the CERT thing. We put new radios in them, taking the red emergency lights off and just have yellow lights on those so that our CERT people can use those to tow the trailer. They don't have to rely on towing it with their own vehicle. |
| 02:40:24.94 | Kayla Kahn | You know, |
| 02:40:43.25 | Jim Irving | And then lastly, what we've done with CERT is we've combined our efforts at doing the CERT training program with all of the other agencies in Marin. And so what that does is we have a single program countywide that's exactly the same. Whereas in the past there was slight differences in what modules we had, how many hours it was. And so now it's somebody goes to a cert class here, there, wherever. It doesn't matter. They're all exactly the same. And that's it, unless you have any questions. Yeah. |
| 02:41:17.51 | Mike Kelly | I just had a question that's somewhat related, but since the chief's here and chief's here, |
| 02:41:17.52 | Jim Irving | Thank you. |
| 02:41:17.57 | Herb Weiner | Bye. |
| 02:41:17.59 | Jim Irving | Thank you. |
| 02:41:27.58 | Mike Kelly | Bill Frost's work on disaster preparedness, you know, in other, I've been told by other, in other, not our fire department or our police department, but in other jurisdictions that Sometimes they operate off different plans in a disaster preparedness and that they need to be Thank you. made into more of a coordinated plan because generally the fire department will be the first responders in a real disaster scenario because it's not necessarily a if it's not sort of technically, but do you, have we had those types of meetings where, you know, Bill's plan and your plans are becoming more, you know, |
| 02:42:11.14 | Jim Irving | Absolutely. We work very closely with Bill, and Bill's been terrific to work with. He involves everything, and every plan that he's had, he gives to us, and we give him our plans. And he's used, for example, just recently he incorporated our MCI, or multi-casualty incident plan, into the Saucelita disaster plan. And I attend all the disaster committee meetings along with Bill and with Herb as well. |
| 02:42:41.69 | Mike Kelly | That's very good because I have been someone who'd say, oh, I wonder if that's happening here in San Salido because if you have a map screen. That shows the good cross-pollinization between the two departments. Thank you. |
| 02:42:56.95 | Herb Weiner | Any other questions? I just have one question. We had, what, a couple weeks ago a control burn? Thank you. |
| 02:43:03.25 | Jim Irving | Yeah. |
| 02:43:03.43 | Herb Weiner | And not we. I shouldn't say that the federal government. |
| 02:43:04.71 | Jim Irving | I should not be. Right, the federal government had a control burn. We actually did assist them with that. Oh. |
| 02:43:11.24 | Herb Weiner | I'm sorry. How many acres was that? |
| 02:43:11.60 | Herb Weiner | I don't know. |
| 02:43:11.67 | Jim Irving | I'm not. |
| 02:43:11.68 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:43:11.70 | Jim Irving | How much? Thank you. That was 30 acres. |
| 02:43:15.88 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:43:16.22 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:43:16.41 | Jim Irving | And just to make sure you all know, and I put this out in an email to all the people who did complain to us, is that the requirements for doing a burn like that are very stringent. They have to meet very specific requirements in terms of the weather, in terms of airflow, temperature, humidity, et cetera. And so it's not something that they just go willy-nilly and do. It's something that takes a great deal of planning to put that out there. And I think the weather on that particular day just happened to be you know, perfect, or shall we say imperfect, that it just took the smoke, you know, right up over the hill and then down the hill, rather than, you know, I think their intention was for it to go up, and then a cross. without actually hitting Sausalito. Obviously, it didn't work the way they wanted it. |
| 02:44:09.82 | Herb Weiner | And that was only 30 acres. |
| 02:44:11.72 | Jim Irving | That was 30 acres, correct. |
| 02:44:12.97 | Herb Weiner | Yeah. Does that break a, does it make a fire line? Is that what the control is? |
| 02:44:20.43 | Jim Irving | This was actually a vegetation management burn. It was to try to get rid of some invasive grasses. |
| 02:44:28.23 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 02:44:28.94 | Jim Irving | And just to also make sure you understand, we as Southern Marin Fire, we only do burns to create fire safety breaks or a vegetation management from a fire perspective, and we only do those in May and June. |
| 02:44:46.79 | Herb Weiner | you |
| 02:44:46.81 | Jim Irving | Whereas the federal government, because they do them for other reasons, they have to do them at certain times of the year because, for example, if they're doing a burn to try to get rid of some invasive species, If they don't do it when there's low enough humidity, they don't get the proper burn and it doesn't accomplish what they're trying to achieve. |
| 02:45:07.90 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, Jim. Okay, any comments from the public? Okay. Any questions? Thank you. Thank you, Jim. Okay. We're gonna skip one item and we're jumping to the e And that's the approving appropriating funds for and authorizing the city manager to execute a professional service agreement with Wes Yost. Associates from expedient. design of and a negotiated contract for construction of a new storm drain, manhole upstream of the Coloma Street Richardson Bay outfall to eliminate dry weather, high tide flooding, and provide fittings for the wet weather pumping for flood fighting. Jonathan Goldman. |
| 02:46:00.21 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Mr. Vice Mayor, members of the council, staff and members of the community. I brought some extra copies of the handout. These were emailed to council late, but at least emailed to council before this evening. If anybody would like a copy, feel free. |
| 02:46:24.44 | Jonathon Goldman | And I'll try to be conscientious in advancing the slides. This item is before you this evening for a variety of reasons. The staff report provides some detail, but as no doubt members of council and certainly some members of the audience are aware, there are areas that are generally indicated here in red in this watershed map from West Yost's conceptual drainage study that as I recall was presented to the council in May that flood regularly regularly meaning at high tides not just when it's raining not just when the tide is super high or there's some kind of you know, abnormal circumstance, but, you know, sometimes twice a day. And as a result of the work that Wes Jost did, go ahead with the next slide, please. uh, And some additional research that we were able to do in anticipation of this winter, where we've identified an unusual number of instances of expected high or very high tides, tides of greater than six feet or more. The city manager really challenged us to See if there isn't something that could be done short term rather than waiting until we have completed the detailed designs for the integrated Gate 5 Road sewer project, as well as related storm drainage improvements that Council heard in that conceptual drainage study report. So in the process of brainstorming on that issue, after meeting with the city manager and Robin Petrovic from Heath Ceramics, West Jost identified the prospect of installing a new manhole in this outfall line. I don't know. It's kind of hard to orient oneself on this figure, but this is Bridgeway, approximately north-south. This is the ICB building, so harbor is coming in here. This line is Coloma. And as you can see, this map depicts the configuration of the storm drainage system, individual catch basins and manholes, as well as these purple lines delineate watersheds, the areas where... Thank you. Water on this side of this line, for example, can be expected to flow into these catch basins, whereas water on this side of the line is going to flow into these catch basins. As you can see, there's an outfall here along the Coloma Street alignment, and Vivian Housen from West Yost working with her staff, Doug Moore, who originally did this work, the conceptual drainage study work, identified the opportunity to construct something that will have an appropriate valve in it that will prevent Richardson's Bay water from flowing back into the system and causing the local flooding as it essentially bubbles up from these catch basins during periods of high tide. Recognizing that opportunity, And again, that during the budget process of this last fiscal year, council had appropriated $20,000 for design work associated with this. recognizing the opportunity to not only fast-track this individual manhole design, but also construct it this year. We and staff decided that it was prudent to bring this forward as, go ahead and give me the next slide if you don't mind Debbie. bring this forward as an expedited item. I have summarized the rationale, which I've completely talked past already, but it's included in the staff report and the resolution, but in May of 2010, the WAM committee report and the council in accepting that report found that high-frequency flooding aggravated by subsidence negatively impacts public and private properties in the area, public safety, health, road access, local business operations, and causes environmental contamination, and that the storm drain systems must be upgraded to prevent leakage and backflow of tidal waters and low-lying and potentially Was that sentence really there? That said low lying twice. The priority calendar process of 2010, the council considered the need. May 17th, 2011 is the conceptual drainage study that I alluded to where West Jost associates evaluated these issues. And then in the priority calendar process of 2011, council approved that emphasis by placing a Gate 5 Road, Heathway kind of storm drainage improvement project above the line project number 17. Thank you. I alluded to the tidal forecasts beginning October 26th. There are 49 high tides predicted through December of 2012 that exceed more than 6.5 feet, 19 of those between now and the end of January 2012. So again, West Yost was asked and provided a proposal to design a focused project. That's what's here for you this evening. This project is intended to eliminate dry weather flooding by installing a flat gate equipped manhole on the 18 inch diameter storm drain discharge upstream of its outfall to Richardson's Bay along the Coloma Street alignment, east of Gate 5 Road, The manhole will also be equipped to allow storm water to be pumped from the system into Richardson's Bay in the event of a combined heavy rain and high tide to further attempt to minimize the adverse effects of flooding in that area. And West Joe's estimate of construction cost is $40,000, and their estimate is that it can be designed and constructed within about a month. So our request, our recommendation this evening, after you've heard from the public on the matter and had any questions answered, is that you appropriate $70,000 from unappropriated fund balances in the general CIP fund 140 to fund the design and construction, and that you authorize the city manager to execute a contract acceptable to the city attorney with West Yost to begin that work immediately, prepare the design, and allow us to go to construction. Next slide, please. Staff, assuming council concurs and authorizes that work, will prepare and file a notice of exemption from application of CEQA. for existing facilities because the proposed work won't create an expansion of use. It's also in staff's judgment exempt from the zoning ordinance in that it consists of a maintenance project as defined in the code, won't have any effect on the appearance of the area. and is consistent with the general plan And then just to note that the city manager already has the authority to approve a negotiated contract for construction as provided for in Sausalito Municipal Code for public work of $50,000 or less. And here's our recommended motion. |
| 02:54:29.15 | Mike Kelly | Okay, Jonathan. Jonathan, what's Fund 140? You may not know the answer. I don't know off the top of my head without the budget in front of me. That's unallocated. that's not designated to a specific project in the CIP fund, is that correct? Or will it displace other work that's? |
| 02:54:46.27 | Jonathon Goldman | other way. Thank you. It will not displace other work, and I neglected to bring the specific budget page with me, but if you look at the approved budget, the appropriations that were approved are all listed, and then there is a projected cash reserves at the end of the fiscal year. In appropriating these 70, and my recollection is that that projected amount for this fiscal year is over a million dollars. In other words, there's a million dollars expected to be remaining in cash. Um, By appropriating $70,000, the cash balance on hand at the end of the year will be reduced by $70,000. But this doesn't take money from any of the other projects that have already had funds appropriated in the form of the budget. |
| 02:55:38.82 | Mike Kelly | In the out years of the CIP, it does. Because we program that to go down, that balance to go down. |
| 02:55:47.02 | Jonathon Goldman | Correct. Yes. Assuming that... Yes. Thank you. |
| 02:55:54.99 | Herb Weiner | Any other questions here? All right, at this time here, any questions from the public? I've got a year to come up. |
| 02:56:10.70 | Robin Petrovic | Robin Petrovic, South State resident and owner of Heath Ceramics. So Jonathan, has Vivian identified at what height tide water flows right over the land? |
| 02:56:31.41 | Jonathon Goldman | I'm not sure. I don't recall that specifically. That information, if it has been derived, would be in that conceptual drainage study. And I'd be happy to look that up and advise. Certainly, this particular project would not address, we wouldn't be able to address flooding coming in overland from Richardson's Bay, even if we have the ability to pump in this particular manhole. I think the ability to pump in this particular manhole helps, but we certainly wouldn't have the pumping capacity to deal with overland flooding from the bay. |
| 02:56:51.49 | Herb Weiner | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:57:20.71 | Herb Weiner | We have to. |
| 02:57:21.32 | Ron Albert | Thank you. |
| 02:57:24.88 | Jonathon Goldman | you |
| 02:57:26.03 | Ron Albert | Thank you. |
| 02:57:26.06 | Jonathon Goldman | I do know, for example, Mr. Petrovic just offered that it was around 10 feet or so. The base flood elevation, the 100-year flood elevation for Sausalito in general is plus 9. So any area that's within the 100-year floodplain, and there are certainly some in the marinship, I expect would flood at, or begin flooding at nine feet. The definition of elevation, or base flood elevation, as I recall, is that that's a foot or more of water, so you may be right. |
| 02:57:34.58 | Neil Stone | Thank you. |
| 02:57:34.62 | Adam Politzer | you |
| 02:58:02.80 | Herb Weiner | Okay, thank you. Anybody else from the public? Okay, let's bring it back up here. Thank you. |
| 02:58:09.13 | Jonathan Leone | I have a question. There's a manhole pretty close to Heath that floods |
| 02:58:09.35 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 02:58:09.58 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. |
| 02:58:16.92 | Jonathan Leone | I think you showed it on the map. Does this one feed that manhole? Yes. Okay, so this one should stop that flooding there. That's the intent. Under the 6.5. And not just there, but yes. |
| 02:58:22.88 | Jonathon Goldman | Yes. THE FAMILY. That's the intent. Under the 6 and a half? And not just there, but yes. |
| 02:58:29.06 | Jonathan Leone | Yeah, schedule. Okay. And then the rest of the improvements along that main as you go through them with the replacement of the line, does that do anything else to the flooding or is this kind of the key thing for the flooding? |
| 02:58:43.98 | Jonathon Goldman | Um, This is key in kind of a, let's put it this way, just very frankly, in a $70,000 way. Right, right. The work that we contemplate for the sanitary sewer |
| 02:58:52.41 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. frame. |
| 02:59:03.20 | Jonathon Goldman | won't have a material impact on any of the larger issues. What we need to do is go beyond where we are with the conceptual drainage study |
| 02:59:06.32 | Ron Albert | a larger |
| 02:59:15.94 | Jonathon Goldman | and assess the condition of the rest of the pipe network that is there to the extent that pieces of pipe need to be repaired or replaced in order to allow the other alternatives that Doug Moore from West Yost recommended. For example, um, allowing basically Um, creating a pressurized storm drainage system so that rather than stormwater being able to get out, you know, lift a manhole up or get out through a slotted manhole or something, make sure that the system can operate under pressure and discharge through not only this flap gate, but other flap gates, things like that, you know, is a subsequent phase of work that requires, like I said, the cleaning and assessment of condition as well as more detailed design. our objective with the Gate 5 Road sewer project. Sorry, I'm taking advantage of the opportunity to talk on this question. Our objective with that project, knowing what we do about the storm drainage conditions, knowing what we do even about the sanitary sewer conditions, is to try to combine those objectives into one project which qualifies for funding under the Clean Water State Revolving Fund and gives us a revenue source for storm drainage improvements other than the general funded capital improvement fund. So it's complex, but it's not rocket science. Excuse me. So the objective is, you know, in the long long term to identify a sequence of actions that would take place and create incremental improvements. In the long run, protection against those nine-foot tides, ten-foot tides, and sea level increase, coupled with subsidence, we may end up with a significant wet weather pump station or something like that. |
| 03:01:26.80 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:01:29.10 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 03:01:29.11 | Herb Weiner | Uh-oh. Robert, do you have a question? |
| 03:01:34.83 | Robin Petrovic | I just wanted to make a comment just to sort of follow up. You know, as you guys know, this is a big problem for us down there in that area. And when I learned that this was, this proposal had been made and that was coming up tonight. Went around and talked to a couple of the neighbors on the street that usually stand around with me in rubber boots in the wintertime and talk and drink coffee and keep our fingers crossed and told them what was happening here. And a couple of, you know, several of them, the very first reaction, the very first thing they said to me was, Well, that's really exciting. I didn't think the city cared about this problem or about this area. And so they were very pleasantly surprised to learn that Another question I got was, well, where is this coming from? Like, why do they want to do this? And a little bit of disbelief. Where's the motivation here? And so when they learned that this is really kind of coming from the city, and I really want to thank Jonathan Goldman's leadership in taking responsibility on this issue, I think that's also a very exciting kind of change, and it's taken a while, and I think it's time for it. I really, you know, as a resident, I really want the city to be viewed in this way by the people that live and work here. So I think that's a really big step. I also want to say that there is this really big problem of, you know, South City is a low-lying town. We have a low-lying area. There are 100-year floods. There are extreme floods. There can be extreme storms. That could be real disasters. Of course, you guys all saw what happened with the hurricane on the East Coast. Some things you just can't you can't plan for. There's a one in a million types of events and they're awful and it happens and then you deal with it. You know, this is a situation, and to deal with that kind of situation, and Jonathan's working on that plan too, is probably a pretty extensive study and pretty complicated fix and pretty complicated implementation in the engineering to resolve that. But as Jonathan pointed out, you know, there are about 49 floods over the next year, over 6.5, when that area totally floods and cars are driving through salt water and they don't even know it. And this fix here, though it seems small, takes care of about 99% of the situations that we may foresee in the future. And I think for a price tag of $70,000 versus a couple million, it's like it's the massive win that is pretty easy and doesn't cost that much, and yet you're making the gain on 90%, 95% of the overall problem. And so I think that's a pretty important thing to look at. You know, 49 dry days out of 365. Usually it floods at about 6 feet. So maybe we're talking about 75 dry days out of 365 is a pretty big deal. That's a pretty significant change. So I really hope that this gets approved and it's exciting for this winter, which looks like it's going to be pretty rocky. |
| 03:04:41.81 | Jonathon Goldman | All right. |
| 03:04:42.69 | Herb Weiner | Thank you, Robin. |
| 03:04:46.81 | Herb Weiner | I'll have a latte. |
| 03:04:48.88 | Regina Diaz | So, where was Montana? Yeah. Good evening, Mr. Mayor, council members. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to speak with you, and I hope we can work in this project together because as we merchants worry constantly about what our sales are going to be like today when we know we have a high tide coming in, our customers can't get to our place. |
| 03:04:51.80 | Herb Weiner | And... |
| 03:04:52.04 | Herb Weiner | Yeah. |
| 03:05:20.42 | Regina Diaz | We love cooking delicious meals for all the locals in Sausalito, and we hope we can continue doing it. So I hope we can all work together. Thank you. |
| 03:05:30.92 | Mike Kelly | Regina, would you just, for the record, you just need to state your name. |
| 03:05:34.53 | Regina Diaz | Oh, Regina Diaz, owner of the Anchorage Fire Restaurant. |
| 03:05:34.54 | Mike Kelly | Bye. Thank you. |
| 03:05:41.02 | Herb Weiner | Okay, that's it. I'll bring it back up. you |
| 03:05:45.28 | Mike Kelly | we have a recommended motion? Before you do the quick motion, I think, Robin, to answer your question, why, you know, it's a surprise, you know, in some ways, I guess, given the length of time you've had to deal with this, but a lot of it is planning, just taking that amount of time to to give Jonathan the human power to have people to manage these projects through. And before, it was just Todd for many years. And one person just can't manage all these |
| 03:06:10.96 | Kayla Kahn | I don't know. |
| 03:06:18.32 | Mike Kelly | besides the emergencies that come up, and that just didn't work. And it was short-sighted. and not well thought out by previous administrations. So now we have Jonathan, we've got Lauren managing projects, and we have a full engineering staff. Um, That's money. So you had to plan ahead and set aside the money. And then you had to give them the money to do these things. And so it's been years in the making, and the folks who have been here for years, it's to just get money and plan ahead and set it aside so we can do some of these things even This isn't a huge amount of money, but it's something they didn't plan for in the past, so we're getting there with some of these things. And for you and Regina and the other merchants down there, we want you guys here. We want you to stay in business. We want your business to flourish. So we're trying to catch up with some of these infrastructure needs that have been let go for decades. |
| 03:07:19.32 | Robin Petrovic | Yeah, that's absolutely, what you say is great. And I've seen that change, because I've been in communication with some of you guys and and for the past more than a year or so. So I've seen all that happening and it's great to see. I think that a lot of our neighbors and a lot of other residents haven't seen that and they don't know exactly where that's coming from or that Jonathan's even here and it's more than just Todd. Uh, um... who was always just kind of bombarded with stuff, and he just wanted to do his work. And so I think it would be great for them to know a little bit more about some of the really positive changes that are happening in this area. |
| 03:08:00.78 | Eric Abdullah | Thanks. |
| 03:08:03.47 | Robin Petrovic | Okay. |
| 03:08:05.42 | Jonathan Leone | I'll make a motion that we adopt a resolution approving and appropriating funds for and authorizing city manager to execute a professional service agreement from West Yost Associates with West Yost Associates for expedited design of and negotiated contract for construction of a new storm drain manhole upstream of the Coloma Street, Richardson Bay outfall to eliminate dry weather, high tide flooding and provide fittings for wet weather pumping for flood fighting. Second. |
| 03:08:28.90 | Herb Weiner | Second. |
| 03:08:30.23 | Carolyn Ford | I'm sorry. |
| 03:08:31.73 | Herb Weiner | Well, we have two and a half. |
| 03:08:32.24 | Carolyn Ford | Two and a half. All right. Go ahead. I don't care. Okay. |
| 03:08:33.79 | Herb Weiner | Yeah. |
| 03:08:33.88 | Herb Weiner | All right. Go ahead. Okay, all in favor? Aye. Opposed? Okay. |
| 03:08:38.95 | Carolyn Ford | Bye. Thank you. |
| 03:08:41.17 | Eric Abdullah | you |
| 03:08:41.70 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:08:42.63 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:08:43.26 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you for sticking in there with us. Really appreciate it. |
| 03:08:43.38 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. |
| 03:08:48.94 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 03:08:50.73 | Herb Weiner | I got to. |
| 03:08:52.77 | Herb Weiner | Next item here is the information from Sausalito Fire Police and Public Works Department on preparedness for the winter 2011-12. Jonathan Goldman, you're on again. |
| 03:09:05.30 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. |
| 03:09:24.43 | Jonathon Goldman | Sorry. I have copies of this PowerPoint also. As I asked counsel, there are certain pop quiz questions during the presentation, and I ask you not to give the answers away, at least not in advance. |
| 03:09:38.61 | Ron Albert | Thank you. |
| 03:09:45.69 | Jonathon Goldman | This presentation is kind of a consolidation of information available in different departments as well as information about what we are doing. In fact, it provides some of the basis for the item you just heard previously, And in the process of gathering information, I ran across this quote from John Fitzgerald Kennedy about how the time to fix the roof is when the sun is shining, which kind of goes with the theme of preparedness. And then also the fact that I was trying to combine French and Spanish in a La Nina deja vu and it doesn't have quite the same the same power in just Spanish, but the point there is, which we'll discuss later, The point there is that the prediction is that we'll have a La Nina, a weak La Nina, much like we did last winter. Next slide, please. Next, click the button. Yes, five-year quasi-cycle of El Nino-La Nina southern oscillations. Equatorial Pacific sea surface temperatures. El Nino, warm sea surface. Next, La Nina, cool sea surface. Go ahead. 2010, La Nina. Wee Kla Nina predicted for this year. One more click. Uh-huh. Okay. |
| 03:11:22.91 | Jonathon Goldman | You can turn the speakers up too if you like. The weather forecast, long range forecast from National Weather Service, you guys will probably laugh at this actually and it's not intended to be funny, but October 2011, they made a one month, one month precipitation probability analysis valid through October. As you can see, we're kind of right in here. EC, well, what does that mean? The rest of it, there are some As, there are some Bs. EC means there's an equal chance for above E. Normal, normal, or below normal precipitation here. So that's kind of good news. That's better than knowing that it's a drought, although if we're concerned about flooding and winter weather, maybe we want a drought. but that's our water supply. On the other hand, we also, they aren't predicting it's above normal, so that's kind of encouraging too. Three-month outlook, pretty much the same story. So that doesn't help us much. Go on. Todd, one more. Did you spend all night |
| 03:12:37.97 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:12:38.04 | Jonathon Goldman | to do this. |
| 03:12:38.83 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:12:38.93 | Jonathon Goldman | This took me several weeks. That's why I haven't been answering my phone. |
| 03:12:38.97 | Herb Weiner | Where did we steal these bags? |
| 03:12:40.89 | Herb Weiner | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:12:40.96 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:12:46.43 | Jonathon Goldman | predicted tides at Golden Gate through December 31, 2011. Hard to tell what that means. Next, please. Ah, here we go. Here's a little bit. |
| 03:12:57.97 | Herb Weiner | uh, |
| 03:12:58.19 | Jonathon Goldman | you Thank you. Bunny, I can't hear the sound. I'm just setting the stage. We gave you some statistics earlier this evening. Here they are. Tide projections. 1024, 2011, look. 1026, 6.7, 6.9s. Looks like kind of some high tides this coming winter. Next slide, please. There's my sound. can't hear it. Go. |
| 03:13:35.09 | Jonathon Goldman | Don't worry about it. Here they are in tabular form. |
| 03:13:39.97 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Another click. |
| 03:13:41.61 | Jonathon Goldman | Another click, please. Beginning October 26th, 49 high tides predicted through December 2012 exceed 6.5 feet. This was kind of from my last effort so I won't say it again. But beginning October 26th, more than 100 high tides at 6 feet or more before next March. Next slide please. I'm not going to read this because you guys will laugh at me, but it is kind of interesting. The tidal forecasts are based solely on Sun and Moon, they don't take weather into account. And as we know, actually we can just go to the next slide if you want to. One inch of mercury is 33.86 hectopascals, which is the current SI unit for what used to be millibars. Normal barometric pressure, if you're a pilot, 29.92 inches of mercury is 1,013 hectopascals. Next slide, please. This is just something I found on the Internet, but it basically says, El Nino tends to result in lower barometric pressures, whereas La Nina tends to result in higher. That's kind of good news for us. Next slide, please. I just said that. One more, please. Oh, here we go. So I went back to Buick Station 46026 data, which I'm sure you're all familiar with. It's 18 nautical miles west of San Francisco. 1997, the minimum barometric pressure noted, 990.7 hectopascals. 1998, these were El Nino years, by the way, if there's Planning on taking the quiz later, 986.9, and then 2010, not much lower. Well, 97, 22.3 centimeters, a sea level adjustment based on this, that's 7 tenths of a foot of change in water surface elevation. 1998, 0.85 feet. the weather plays kind of an important role in whether our storm drainage system is going to be adversely affected or not. For those of you who have the handout, I hope that this link won't work right now with just the space bar, but this is kind of an interesting – well, you can if you want. It's an interesting simulation of how barometric pressure changes with the passage of a storm. Sorry, Debbie, you were getting your work out this evening. I grabbed a number of, since the purpose of this presentation was to talk about preparedness, not just strange excursions into the weather and the internet, I grabbed some information from Get Ready Marin, Marin County's disaster preparedness guide, |
| 03:16:37.95 | Jonathon Goldman | Some of them. Goals of get ready training. Since we're talking preparedness, since we're talking about fixing the roof while the sun is shining, Learn how to create a personal emergency plan. First steps in developing emergency kits. Learn how to become a survivor. things to think about. How would you get home? Is your home safe? Do you know how to evaluate it? How would you shut off your gas, electricity, or water? Do you have food and water? Do you have first aid supplies? Where are your family members? Where will you meet? These are straight out of Get Ready Marin, folks. What can we do now? Prepare yourself, your home, your family, your neighborhood, your community. Create a kit. Have a plan. Get ready. So for those of you who have not taken this training class, this is one thing you can do to get ready not just for this winter, but for every winter and for lots of things that you might be anxious about or concerned about. Next slide, please. And don't really have a plan for. I don't know why this Larkspur Fire Captain got to stand in front of San Anselmo's fire station during their floods, but he did. He got his picture taken. That's a fair amount of water. I'm glad that's not me standing there. Obtain the sand and the bags before the rainy season. This is from Get Ready Marin. Directions on how to fill in place sandbags be found in your Get Ready book. Here comes the pop quiz. Thank you. The fool. Sand and bags? Where? Next slide please, or next button, yeah, self-serve. City Corporation Yard, 530 Nevada, 289-4113. That's Lauren and Bertis' direct line. And LK parking lot behind the gym. If the Corporation Yard is closed, contact the police department at 289-4170. and they will help you gain access to the art. Another key issue with wet weather and windy weather, life without power. Here's some other advice. That's not Sausalito, I don't think. It's good. Treat all power lines as live. If you have a generator, inform PG&E. If you have a fireplace, be sure it's safe to use. Burn only wood, no charcoal. Oh. Pop quiz, wires down, arcing or not, flames. Call 911 from a landline. We see wires down. Don't assume that there are telephone lines or cable TV. especially not if they're arcing or there are flames coming out of them. But when you reach someone on night, when you reach, when you reach someone at 911, they'll probably ask you if there are flames visible or arcing And for those of you who don't already know this, when you call 911 on a cell phone, when you call 911 on a cell phone, it doesn't go where you think it does. So you can also just call the Marin County I think it's probably a Marin County dispatch center directly at 415-472-0911 if you're on a cell phone. Of course, if you're in San Francisco and call Marin County, they won't be able to help you, |
| 03:20:04.89 | Jonathon Goldman | I wanted to provide this slide just to try and help people understand which wires are likely to arc and create flames and things like that. It's not particularly helpful, unfortunately, but generally speaking, the highest wires on a utility pole carrying electricity. The wires above a transformer are high voltage, primary voltage lines. They do things like this. Do you recognize that photograph? Pop quiz. Do you recognize this? Kemp also took that picture on... |
| 03:20:44.14 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 03:20:44.21 | Jonathon Goldman | you |
| 03:20:44.26 | Adam Politzer | on the street. |
| 03:20:44.92 | Jonathon Goldman | Yeah. Is that on average? No. I think it was saying Carlos. I think it was saying Carlos. But we had a wire down there that was actively arcing. So you see stuff like that, that's definitely something to keep your kids and the dog away from. |
| 03:20:44.98 | Adam Politzer | Yeah. Is that right? No. |
| 03:21:02.52 | Jonathon Goldman | The secondary voltage below the transformers, the secondary voltage is the kind that comes into your house, isn't as likely to arc. That doesn't mean it isn't dangerous. So if it's down and it isn't arcing, it still doesn't mean it's okay to let the kids play with it. Thank you. Next slide, please. Working together, as you can see, I'm jumping around in there. Get Ready Marin, and I probably already exceeded my 10 minutes on this. Neighbors helping neighbors. Identify neighbors. Create plans for disabled, elderly, or children who are often home alone. Organize teams to perform basic disaster response functions. I don't know if you have to do that as part of preparedness, but it's what you do with Get Ready Marin and the CERT program that the chief mentioned a few minutes ago. Want to know how? Take CERT. So your plan, or our advice as to your plans, know what to expect. Know your surrounding area and your neighbors. Has your house ever flooded? Is there a history of the streets in your neighborhood becoming impassable during a storm event? Do you need insurance? That's another one of those fix the roof when the sun's shining questions, I think. Keep your roofing, gutters, downspouts, chimneys and fireplaces, drain inlets and drain lines clean, clear and in good repair. Inspect them or have them inspected after cleaning in the autumn, it's still autumn, to prepare for the rain. Reach out to your neighbors who may not be as prepared as you are. and encourage or assist them in doing the same. If you or your neighbors have historically had problems, load up some sandbags and be Pay attention to your public street and storm drains. Sorry, I can't be everywhere at once. Nor can all the other city employees. Clean or have your landscape maintainer clean the gutter, driveway culverts and drain inlets of leaves and debris. Debris. If you see a problem or have a concern, by all means contact Public Works. But I'm encouraging people to take a little bit of ownership for the public right-of-way as well. And feel free to clean leaves, et cetera. Pay attention to trees. Yours, your neighbors, the city's. Have large trees checked by an arborist to protect against limb failure that could result in property damage, electrical outage or fire, or personal injury. This is too much to read. Flashlights, fresh batteries and bulbs, good idea. Spare food. Here's some contact information and I have some more at the end of the presentation about what to do if your power goes out. contact PG&E. We talked about downed power lines, talked about generators a little bit. I'm happy to answer questions or inquiries from people if they want to know more about that. Another piece of advice, don't use barbecues or charcoal indoors to heat your home. Not only is there a risk of fire, but there's also a risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. Skip this. One other note from, this is from Sergeant Frost's resources. When traffic lights are out due to power outage, you must treat the non-functioning light as a four-way stop. There's no pop quiz on that, but I should have. The city's plan, this is what you've all been waiting for. Routine street sweeping and storm drain maintenance to remove not only surface leaves and debris, but also vacuum flush, VACTOR, a registered trademark of some company, sediments and other materials that could obstruct the flow of water. These activities are now logged to ensure that we're maintaining an appropriate standard of care during the rainy season. In other words, we're keeping records of what we are maintaining. Special patrols are made during rain events to maintain flow in key hotspot areas based on past experience. 600 block of Sausalito Boulevard. We actually have repairs for that area pending. That contractor has started work in the city but has not gotten there yet. Intersection of Glen Drive and Curry, same thing, same contractor. 53 to 59 Casino, same thing. 500 block of olive. We are making some temporary adjustments there to address what has been a longstanding water course, but one that our recent improvements on an adjacent property have identified some problems. So we're taking some actions there with that property owner's permission. One other block of Ebtide, as you may recall, we had a Little bit of a slide there last winter, which the Majoran Gelati, our streets contractor, is under contract to install a retaining wall this year. Next slide, please. Bye. Bye. |
| 03:26:07.35 | Herb Weiner | All right. |
| 03:26:07.36 | Jonathon Goldman | . |
| 03:26:07.55 | Herb Weiner | I'm going to go. All right. Thank you. |
| 03:26:08.50 | Jonathon Goldman | All right. I'm not. you There's the vector. Next, please. . |
| 03:26:15.14 | Herb Weiner | Thanks. |
| 03:26:19.36 | Jonathon Goldman | I'll try to figure out how to deal with that. A couple other projects that I'm sure council members have heard of, Sigali Lane, which is a storm drain improvement that council awarded, was funded, awarded recently. That work is almost 80% complete at this point, which I think is remarkable. Spring Street near Bridgeway, that contractor is mobilized, although I haven't seen them there the last couple of days, but that work is going to happen. And we talked about Gate 5 Road earlier this evening. |
| 03:26:56.33 | Jonathon Goldman | We also are responsible to ensure that sand and bags remain available at the corp yard and MLK Park. We intend to and will anticipate flooding during combined high tide and rainfall events, as well as rainfall intensities of an inch per hour or greater. We will ensure the Department of Public Works personnel are available to respond quickly to a call out during non-working hours. There are people who don't realize that unlike police and fire, we are not on three shifts. That doesn't mean that we don't have people who are perfectly willing to come in when they're called, but there are times of the day and the week when we aren't all here. We will also ensure that Department of Public Works, fire and police personnel are properly trained and equipped to deal with both local and larger-scale flooding and other winter hazards. And we are responsible for and will ensure that priority capital improvements get identified, designed, funded, and built. Long list of resources here. I'm not going to read through them all, but I encourage people to take a look. There may be websites here that you haven't seen before. It wouldn't be one of these, but keep going, Debbie. There are some interesting ones. Marin.org, Coast Guard has a little information. Marin Humane Society, people might want to know what they can do, who they can look to for help during even a minor disaster with respect to pets and other people's pets. Disabled persons, designingaccessiblecommunities.org has a good link to resources for disabled persons. Next, please. Centers for Disease Control, and then an organization called Ready America, ready.gov. |
| 03:28:52.40 | Jonathon Goldman | Which episode, in the next episode, which shall it be? Tsunami, earthquake, wild land vegetation fire, locusts attack, pandemic, or disruptive children? |
| 03:29:15.42 | Jonathon Goldman | Yes, sir. It's available to be on the website instantly. Any questions? |
| 03:29:25.86 | Herb Weiner | Okay, any questions here? |
| 03:29:33.24 | Herb Weiner | Ouchie. |
| 03:29:34.28 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:29:34.62 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:29:47.03 | Unknown | It's very important though. be recognized. My name is Chris Warren Wolfpack Ridge. Many years I've been here. Just to give you a little background, in the 80s when I was around in charge, we attempted a redevelopment for the Marinship area to control the flooding. mixed with Marin City. And we set up a program. and we went to the federal government to get grant money. and we presented ourselves on the 14th or 18th floor. And that gentleman up there said he'd been there for 25 years and he looked very carefully at us and he looked very carefully at the representatives of Marin City. And he said, Art, He says, as long as I've been in this office, I've never seen this kind of cooperation with the city of Sausalito and Marin City. Are you sure that you want to turn them down? And Marin City people said, yes, we have to have a soccer field. If they'll give us a soccer field, we'll sign onto this program. So in 1980, we attempted to do what you're by little bits and pieces trying to get done now. It didn't happen. My concern is Wolfback Ridge west of the freeway. For some reason, some members of the community think that's private land up there. It is private land. But fortunately or unfortunately, we pay taxes, and we think we're entitled to some kind of maintenance up there for storm drainage. I've seen city trucks up there. The city truck operator gently drives up Wolfback Ridge Road to the intersection of the very top of the hill, looks at the storm situation there, and then goes back down the hill. There are three other places which are critical in terms of protecting the side of the hill. I recall, if you will, 1982 when we, or 1980 when we had the mudslide that closed the freeway, that came from water up on Wolfback Ridge, from the neighbors diverting the water. And so, What they did created the slide two years later in 82, Then... The city didn't do anything. The state didn't do anything. The property owners didn't do anything. but mysteriously, A storm drain was put in from the top of the ridge down to the freeway, and I have it on authority that it was Caltrans that did it, but Caltrans said we didn't do it. The city of Sausalito said we didn't do it. Marin Municipal said we didn't do it. you can look at it up. But at any rate, there is a storm drain there now, but that hasn't been done by the city, hasn't been inspected by the city. And it would be nice if the city could do that. But as I understand it, the city isn't authorized to go up there to do that kind of work because that's a private road. And so therefore is the question. If that road fails and the water for improper floods and whatever slides down the hill, you lose the road, you lose the streets, and the property, we have no access to it. So I would suggest that the city consider doing something about taking care of the drainage situation up there, not to install drainage but to clean the drainage which is already up there and in place. Thank you. |
| 03:33:06.57 | Herb Weiner | Thank you for it. |
| 03:33:10.74 | Herb Weiner | Okay, any other comments from the public? All right, bring it back up here. |
| 03:33:19.68 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you, Claire Harper. Yep. Nice job. |
| 03:33:23.85 | Herb Weiner | Okay. I gave you your cone today. You read it. Thank you. |
| 03:33:28.38 | Herb Weiner | Yeah. |
| 03:33:28.83 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. All right. Thank you, Jonathan. Okay, moving on. City manager's report. |
| 03:33:38.72 | Adam Politzer | Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council Members. I'll be brief here, looking at the clock at 10.35. Just quickly, a few friendly reminders. October 26 is the next MCC MC dinner at Belvedere at 6 o'clock. I think that you probably all received an email from Debbie on that. The Chamber of Commerce is holding its annual fundraiser and special event on Friday the 28th. at the Spinnaker and also Debbie has sent you all an email asking if you are planning on attending. Moving on, just some other dates here worth noting. November 10th is the LAFCO hearing on the consideration of the city's application for fire annexation with Southern Marin. That will be at 7 o'clock on the 10th. We did hold a public workshop on October 6th and had a nice attendance here with some valuable discussion and question and answer time. We've updated the city's website, put a lot of new information on there, some in response to some of the questions that were asked and again also links and material to LAFCO to help identify the process for our community and we'll hold another workshop on November 3rd at 6 p.m. here again in the conference in the council chambers opportunity to video those. The video of the workshop is on the website from the October 6 meeting and we'll do that again on the November 3 workshop so that folks can watch it from home and not feel that they have to attend or they can come down if there's something that's asked or said that gets the hair up on their neck and they can come and be right there live in person and talk to staff that evening if they so choose. On November 11th, shifting gears, we'll have our strategic planning session, and I don't know if we have the site yet. The site is still being worked out for the strategic planning session with the council and the management team. That concludes my report. Happy to answer any questions to the council. |
| 03:36:00.50 | Herb Weiner | Any questions? Okay, future agenda items. |
| 03:36:08.08 | Linda Pfeifer | Mr. Mayor? |
| 03:36:08.89 | Herb Weiner | Yes. |
| 03:36:10.19 | Linda Pfeifer | So I would love to see the Arts Commission interviews scheduled, if we could move forward on that. And another future agenda item actually has to do with the way we take minutes, which are action items. until I guess a few years ago our minutes were very detailed and reflected the discussion. among the council and now you lose that and I think we lose some transparency in the process so I if we could you know explore that I don't know if it's a future agenda item here or if it's something to discuss the strategic off-site but I think it bears discussion. |
| 03:37:01.76 | Herb Weiner | Okay. |
| 03:37:04.63 | Carolyn Ford | Mr. Mayor. |
| 03:37:05.45 | Herb Weiner | you Yes. |
| 03:37:05.78 | Carolyn Ford | you I would like to add a sunshine ordinance. I would like to see us take a look at, our agenda items and how we list those so that the public and how we describe them so that the public gets a really good idea of what it is we're doing and that they can come down and comment on the items. I think that we have... an issue in that we take our, some of our action items are held late at night And we need to make sure that action items and items that have a lot of public interest are held first. With information items at the end, I would suggest to make sure that our public hears what's going on and feels that we're being transparent. We heard a lot of comments tonight about transparency. And I would like to see us take a look at that. |
| 03:38:22.34 | Herb Weiner | Okay. Any other future items? Okay. |
| 03:38:30.86 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Any public comment on that? Okay, let's bring it back up. Next item, Council Member Committee reports. |
| 03:38:43.63 | Linda Pfeifer | Mr. Mayor? |
| 03:38:44.41 | Herb Weiner | Yes. |
| 03:38:45.27 | Linda Pfeifer | So, as you know, I'm on the Community Development Block Grant Commission and the Board of Supervisors recently voted to approve the draft analysis of impediments to fair housing. As you know, I voted against it as a liaison from the city and I remain very saddened that the people of Sausalito never had a public hearing on that topic. despite my repeated requests. |
| 03:39:19.63 | Herb Weiner | I'm too. |
| 03:39:19.97 | Herb Weiner | you |
| 03:39:20.02 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:39:24.44 | Herb Weiner | Okay. All right, um... Moving along, any public comment on that? Okay, back up. appointments, nothing at this time. Council appointments to the Board of Library Trustee and Park and Recreation Commission. |
| 03:39:48.53 | Mike Kelly | Uh-huh. |
| 03:39:49.09 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:39:49.23 | Mike Kelly | See that. |
| 03:39:50.36 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:39:50.38 | Mike Kelly | I believe people who want to be reappointed. |
| 03:39:50.56 | Jonathan Leone | I mean, Thank you. |
| 03:39:53.26 | Herb Weiner | Yeah. |
| 03:39:53.56 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. Yeah, I would recommend that we reappoint the library board people. They, I think I'm the liaison there and they're doing a great job. And they need to have the continuity to help |
| 03:39:58.63 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:40:11.92 | Jonathan Leone | help make the transition to the new project. |
| 03:40:15.26 | Mike Kelly | Okay. A librarian in Troy Church. All right, Debbie, you have that? |
| 03:40:17.31 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:40:17.34 | Herb Weiner | Bye. |
| 03:40:17.73 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:40:20.50 | Mike Kelly | You have to ask for nominations and then... So Mike nominated John Walsham and Myra Berkowitz. Okay. Are there any other nominations? We get a second? You got to ask if there are any other nominations. Are there any other nominations? |
| 03:40:21.90 | Herb Weiner | Yeah, we asked for how we were. |
| 03:40:25.91 | Jan Fidla | MIKE NOMINATED. |
| 03:40:32.58 | Jan Fidla | Thank you. |
| 03:40:32.63 | Herb Weiner | to. |
| 03:40:32.70 | Jan Fidla | Thank you. |
| 03:40:32.80 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:40:37.22 | Herb Weiner | Are there any other nominations? |
| 03:40:39.60 | Mike Kelly | Okay. Thank you. |
| 03:40:41.35 | Herb Weiner | I'm asking. |
| 03:40:42.32 | Jonathan Leone | Second by acclimation. |
| 03:40:43.73 | Mike Kelly | I don't think so. |
| 03:40:44.04 | Herb Weiner | We don't need it, we just do it. |
| 03:40:44.31 | Jonathan Leone | That we don't need it. Thank you. |
| 03:40:46.38 | Mary Wagner | Do it. |
| 03:40:46.96 | Mike Kelly | Thank you. Okay. |
| 03:40:48.34 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:40:48.36 | Mary Wagner | And you could just call for acclimation, and then if there's no objection to that, it's 505. |
| 03:40:49.10 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:40:51.68 | Mike Kelly | No objection to that. Thank you. Okay. So I'll nominate Joe Burns to be reappointed to the park and rec permission. Any other names? Okay. |
| 03:41:03.51 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:41:03.61 | Eric Abdullah | Congratulations. |
| 03:41:05.13 | Herb Weiner | done. All right, moving on. Thank you. |
| 03:41:10.70 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. |
| 03:41:10.75 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:41:10.92 | Eric Abdullah | Thank you. |
| 03:41:10.97 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. you |
| 03:41:11.24 | Jonathan Leone | Thank you. |
| 03:41:11.26 | Herb Weiner | That's it. I move forward to adjournment. |
| 03:41:14.16 | Jonathan Leone | Second. Thank you. What was November 10th? |