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| 00:00:00.37 | Unknown | You ready? Yeah, he owes him. |
| 00:00:03.04 | Mayor | Okay, I called the city council meeting to order. Debbie, would you call roll? |
| 00:00:03.12 | Unknown | you |
| 00:00:03.15 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Okay. |
| 00:00:11.76 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Council member Ford. Here. Councilmember Weiner. |
| 00:00:15.30 | Unknown | THE END OF and then, Thank you. |
| 00:00:15.91 | Debbie (City Clerk) | And Mayor Kelly. |
| 00:00:17.09 | Mayor | Here. And let the record show that Councilmember Pfeiffer and Councilmember Lyon are Not here. We have two agenda items from closed session. One is conference of the Real Property Negotiator, MLK Properties 100 Ibtide. The other is conference with labor negotiators. Is there anyone from the public? who would care to comment, and I see none. So with that, we'll adjourn to the back room and be back at 7. |
| 00:19:53.45 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:20:12.55 | Unknown | you Thank you. Thank you. you Thank you. Thank you. Amen. |
| 00:21:22.92 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:36:51.16 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:36:59.21 | Unknown | you |
| 00:45:32.97 | Unknown | Thank you. you |
| 00:48:15.70 | Unknown | Thank you. you |
| 00:51:54.57 | Unknown | you Thank you. |
| 00:52:02.09 | Unknown | you Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Amen. |
| 00:52:43.16 | Unknown | you you Thank you. |
| 00:52:50.72 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:06:17.38 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:21:54.62 | Mayor | on the 7th of February. Debbie, would you call the roll? |
| 01:21:59.60 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:21:59.65 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Thank you. |
| 01:21:59.67 | Unknown | you |
| 01:21:59.97 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Hmm. |
| 01:22:03.35 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Councilmember Pfeiffer? |
| 01:22:05.14 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | here. |
| 01:22:05.51 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Councilmember Ford. Here. Councilmember Weiner. Present. Vice Mayor Williams. |
| 01:22:10.37 | Mayor | here. |
| 01:22:11.31 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Mayor Kelly. |
| 01:22:12.36 | Mayor | here. Chuck, you're it for the Pledge of Allegiance. Yeah. There's nobody else but you. There's only one shot in the building. Everybody else is a city employee. |
| 01:22:17.64 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Thank you. |
| 01:22:17.71 | Unknown | Thank you. Only one check in the building. To the flag of the American flag. |
| 01:22:25.27 | Mayor | to the flag of the United States. |
| 01:22:26.97 | Unknown | States of America. |
| 01:22:27.04 | Mayor | States of America. |
| 01:22:27.88 | Unknown | Orphan. |
| 01:22:28.83 | Unknown | and to the Republic for which it stands |
| 01:22:30.43 | Mayor | for what you stand for. |
| 01:22:31.80 | Unknown | . |
| 01:22:32.07 | Unknown | One nation. |
| 01:22:32.15 | Mayor | One nation. Thank you. |
| 01:22:33.43 | Unknown | under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. |
| 01:22:34.16 | Mayor | I'm going to go. Thank you. Yes. with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Chuck. . Thank you. you Last man stands. |
| 01:22:42.94 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:22:42.95 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 01:22:42.97 | Unknown | you |
| 01:22:43.26 | Mayor | All right, the council met in closed session from five to seven o'clock. to the conference with our real property, I'm sorry, the conference with our labor negotiators. And then Mary, you wanna say what you wanna do with |
| 01:22:59.71 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:22:59.96 | Mayor | Move for property. |
| 01:23:01.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:23:01.56 | Mayor | CONSENT. CONSENT. OK. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WE TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE MLK PROPERTIES, HUNDRED HIPTIME. ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE CLOSED SESSION ITEMS? |
| 01:23:01.97 | Unknown | Pardon? |
| 01:23:17.81 | Mayor | We've seen them. and have approval of the agenda. |
| 01:23:22.17 | Vice Mayor Williams | So moved. |
| 01:23:23.23 | Mayor | Second. All in favor? Aye. |
| 01:23:25.04 | Vice Mayor Williams | I... |
| 01:23:26.10 | Mayor | All right, there are no special presentations. And now we move to public communications. Is there anyone from the public who would like to address the council on any matters that are not on our agenda? Seeing none, we'll move on. Action minutes of the previous meetings. Any comments about the changes or corrections to the meeting minutes? I have a motion then. So moved. All in favor? Second. |
| 01:23:51.01 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 01:23:51.38 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:23:51.95 | Mayor | you |
| 01:23:52.00 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:23:52.44 | Mayor | Oh. All in favor? All right. |
| 01:23:53.14 | Unknown | Thank you. I |
| 01:23:54.81 | Mayor | All right, now we're to the consent calendar. The consent calendar, of course, lists items that are usually routine and non-controversial. but anybody can pull, the council can pull any item, and anyone who would like to speak in the audience on this, |
| 01:24:17.70 | Chuck Donald | Check Donald. I would like to have item 4F, removed from the consent calendar and be open for discussion. |
| 01:24:27.46 | Mayor | Could you elaborate as to what you are looking for? |
| 01:24:32.15 | Chuck Donald | Sure. At the last council meeting that I led the Pledge of Allegiance, which was about a month I spoke and made some comments about different things in regard to the antennas. uh, that the cell phone antennas have At Firehouse. And they don't show up in the minutes, of course, because we don't have verbatim minutes, and so nobody knows what I said. I'd like to elaborate on that just a little bit. but in particular, I asked for two items. a whole harmless or indemnity clause be put in there about It's a good thing. absolving the city from responsibility from any radiation Radiation. claims for damages that were made so the city wouldn't be involved. The indemnity section that is on the I think, the draft agenda, I guess draft Agreement. mentions indemnity, but it's full of lawyer words that you can't tell it covers that. I don't particularly want to talk to that. and a more mundane issue. I also ask that Amen. determine who has the responsibility for the, I'll say, day-to-day maintenance of the facility, the room. I don't see it addressed in here at all. |
| 01:25:52.37 | Unknown | I don't. |
| 01:25:54.55 | Chuck Donald | It may be taken care of. But since it's not in that agreement, I assume that poor Jonathan Goldman has to go out there and broom every morning to sweep up the leaves. So I'd like to hear some discussion about that, or just a statement that it's been taken care of. |
| 01:26:09.13 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 01:26:09.15 | Chuck Donald | Thank you. |
| 01:26:09.16 | Mayor | All right. Thank you. Anyone else want to comment on the closed session items? |
| 01:26:15.51 | Councilmember Weiner | I have two clarifications on item A. Is that the additional funds? Are those just coming out of the general fund in general, or are they coming from a specific? Where did Charlie go? Oh, he stuck out. Do you want to answer that? |
| 01:26:16.40 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 01:26:16.51 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:26:17.13 | Mayor | check out. |
| 01:26:17.47 | Unknown | THE END OF |
| 01:26:17.52 | Mayor | Sure. |
| 01:26:17.53 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:26:33.97 | Adam Politzer | They've come out of general funds in the Public Works Department. |
| 01:26:37.97 | Councilmember Weiner | Okay. And then on the new village school. We're going to pull that. |
| 01:26:44.80 | Mary Wagner | Mr. Mayor, staff is actually asking that the Council pull that item and continue it to your next |
| 01:26:50.39 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:26:50.85 | Mary Wagner | meeting your next regular city council meeting to allow for some continued negotiations with New Village School. But if there are specific questions I'm more than happy to try and address that. |
| 01:26:58.69 | Councilmember Weiner | When that comes back, can we start when these come through just having photocopies of the layout of the buildings come through so we know what space is going to where and whom in these buildings? Because if you're not at the OMIT meeting, you're not seeing that map. So that would be helpful. |
| 01:27:05.54 | Chief Tejada | Thank you. |
| 01:27:05.66 | Mary Wagner | Yeah. |
| 01:27:05.86 | Chief Tejada | to the city. |
| 01:27:15.80 | Mary Wagner | Sure. |
| 01:27:18.50 | Mayor | Okay. |
| 01:27:18.98 | Councilmember Weiner | It doesn't have to be the whole property, just whatever building the space is. |
| 01:27:19.06 | Mayor | Does that happen? |
| 01:27:23.14 | Mary Wagner | Mr. Mayor, may I also point out that on your dais is a late mail item from staff, which is the attachments to item 4F, the property description of 300 Spencer, and then the map depicting the area that's currently leased and will continue to be leased by Verizon Wireless, assuming that the council approves the lease tonight. |
| 01:27:42.04 | Mayor | Okay. I'll pull, I suggest we pull 4F and put it, yeah, let's put it... |
| 01:27:49.72 | Mary Wagner | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:27:50.14 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:27:55.70 | Mayor | as item C, B2, right after I received the update of the disaster preparedness program. |
| 01:28:07.59 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:28:10.88 | Mayor | All right. Okay, do I have a motion for the rest of it? So we dropped two. We dropped E and F as rescheduled. |
| 01:28:15.35 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 01:28:21.89 | Councilmember Weiner | So I'll move the approval of items 4A through D and the continuation of items 4E and F. |
| 01:28:31.28 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:28:31.49 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 01:28:31.51 | Unknown | Thank you. Okay, I'll second. |
| 01:28:33.01 | Mayor | All in favor? Aye. |
| 01:28:33.85 | Unknown | Hi. |
| 01:28:34.96 | Mayor | Thank you. Imposed? All right, we're at no public hearings and we're at business items. So this is receive and file the year-end report from the San Francisco Police Department. Chief Tejada. on. |
| 01:28:46.30 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:28:46.44 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 01:28:53.54 | Chief Tejada | Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor and Council Members. |
| 01:28:54.99 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Icemare. |
| 01:28:59.70 | Chief Tejada | This evening we're going to present to you a review of 2011. And we're going to do it a little differently tonight. because we do an awful lot of good work in the police departments. And we work with other city departments And so it really is a team effort. And so tonight I've invited other staff members of the police department, and I promise that they did not scare away any of the public. Nobody was here when we got here. |
| 01:29:26.47 | Unknown | and he was |
| 01:29:29.67 | Unknown | Um. |
| 01:29:30.64 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:29:30.87 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:29:32.24 | Chief Tejada | you |
| 01:29:39.36 | Chief Tejada | So we're going to do it as a team effort this evening. And part of it is to show you that we truly are a team. This is not just all of me. I'm usually the one who comes up here and speaks. But it's everybody else here and then some. And everybody's going to take a piece of this and share with you their own accomplishments, the accomplishments of their teams, their patrol teams, and their piece of our major accomplishments. So this is what our organizational chart looked like once I came on board. Your staff report has these usual charts. nothing too exciting about the charts. And what I want you to notice as we go through this presentation tonight, when you hired me, you asked me to come in and eyes wide open. What are the things that I see? Where are the gaps in service? Where are the efficiencies? What can we do to make ourselves a better team? And move the department forward in the direction it needed to go in. And you'll see that if you look, for example, at the domestic violence calls, they're pretty flat-lined in the last year and the year before. Not much change. Assault and battery, a little increase there. Here you see, and this is, again, I want you to look at the DUI stats. DUI stats are down significantly, and that's a reflection of the lack of discretionary time of the officers. This is not a crime that we react to. This is something that occurs when officers have discretionary time to go out and seek this sort of activity. So if you look at petty theft, petty thefts are up because this is a reported crime. And it really doesn't have anything to do with the staffing levels as it affects DUI stats. So just sort of look at those statistics in the context of where we are in our resources. Again, we have arrests. They're fairly stable. So it tells me that we didn't increase any discretionary time since last year. In 5150s, that's really not something we have much control over. If you look at traffic accidents, Um. we have a significant increase. And again, one might attribute that to Our inability to devote full-time officers to traffic issues, including bicycles. And so it's a band-aid approach to this, And so traffic accidents are up 25%. Um, And so, We'll get back to this a little later and how our staffing and resources may ultimately be able to impact these statistics. Parking violations are up because we did hire two parking enforcement officers and they're very active. Moving violations Decrease in statistics there. Again, this is something that's relevant to discretionary time of the officers. Our calls for service are significantly up over the years. We're trying to really get a handle on accuracy here. And we had the volunteers go back for 2011 and 2010, and they spent, I think, a total of 60 hours tabulating all of our service delivery contacts. And so we have quite a busy service delivery profile, and on average we're dealing with 43 contacts a day, which is pretty significant for this. department. Here we couldn't do what we do without our volunteers. They did increase their hours. We've been able to expand our front counter service with their assistance, and I think we're up to 26 volunteers now, which is significant for us. Here are some of the accomplishments. These ones are, you know, more of the external, what we're doing out in the community. You'll hear a little bit more about these later. Some of it involves partnerships. Some of it is educational outreach. Some of it is opportunities to share resources, such as with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and the training of our Marine Patrol officers. and the U.S. Coast Guard We also just signed an agreement with Homeland Security to Joint Patrol, the marinas with them and they will cover all of our personnel costs to do that. So that's a significant coup for us. These are the accomplishments that we addressed internally through. Some of it surfaced during our team building workshop and others just by looking at the checks and balances of our procedures and policies. We have a new mission statement with integrity and professionalism. We are dedicated to work in partnership with our community to enhance safety, quality of life and importantly, community trust. So tonight we're going to hear from our Operations Division, Captain Robacher. He's going to share with you some of the activity in that division, and then we'll do it in this order, and we'll circle back to me. So I'd like to invite Captain Robacher to come up. |
| 01:35:11.76 | Unknown | Do you want me to do it? |
| 01:35:17.45 | Chief Tejada | Let me see if I can do that part. Thank you. Good evening, Mayor and members of the City Council. And, any members of the community. Thank you for the opportunity to talk about our operations division accomplishments. I want to talk about just four things, and I have a little bit to say about each one of them. Public safety and crime prevention is really our A game. That's what we do best. We are crime fighters and happy to you know, arrest criminals and put them in jail. It's part of making our community safe. And we get after that pretty good. We had three notable events in 2011, several more than that, but three I want to comment on. in July We had a stolen car case that originated here in Sausalito. You'll hear more about the case from Detective Mather later, they ended up coming back to San Francisco and we were able to arrest them. stolen property with them, and eventually they went to jail. Significant case for us because it involved a great deal of teamwork, and we're all about the teamwork here, not only with our own officers, but also officers from the surrounding jurisdictions. In October, we had two significant cases. One was a Belvedere Police Department case where A couple got noticed in the middle of the night stealing from cars, and, Someone reported that, our officers located the cars, got close to the freeway. pursued that car all the way to San Francisco. and were able to arrest the man and the woman, They too had a car full of stolen property from cases all over the Bay Area. And so we assisted Belvedere Police in closing that case and several other cases in San Francisco and surrounding jurisdictions. And also in 2011 October, we had a series of storage unit burglaries. and one of our officers was able to are make contact with who we believe are the responsible people in that case. The case is still ongoing. I don't think we've closed with the arrest yet, but we're, I'd like to say, hot on the trail of closing that down. We know who the primary culprit is, not the person that we arrested that night, but the ringleader, and she's kind of on the loose. But there was a significant amount of stolen property recovered in that case, fly fishing equipment, bicycles, and the kind of stuff that people put in their storage containers and hope is safe, but in this case was not. Bye. In doing these cases, every time that we close one out, we're happy to do a press release saying, here's what we did. Let the community know that the police department is working for them, trying to take care of All right. criminal activity, but also offer some tips about, you know, could you please help us out by, you know, Locking your car at night, hiding your security in your your belongings and those type of things. So we usually put that in there And we use press releases, the soft-seed occurrence, and also things like Nixle and Twitter to get that word out so as many people as they can, pardon me, can hear about our work. Special events planning and execution, we do that every year, but just as a reminder, you know, we participate in planning and executing the safety plan for the Caledonia Street Fair, the Fourth of July Parade, and the fireworks. the Solitude Art Festival, the Halloween Parade, the lighted boat parade, and now something on our plate that's new is the America's Cup planning. And so again, when the chief talked about how much we have left over in discretionary time. You can see all the things that we do. whittle away at all those hours that our people are present doing their job. In our community policing projects and school intervention efforts, each patrol team, you heard me talk about this before, but each patrol team, each rotation makes new community policing projects something that would benefit the community, something that's timely that needs to be done now. Maybe last year's community policing project doesn't be done again. And so each time we rotate shifts every four months, the teams change composition a little bit, and they come up with new projects. I think that's really unique here to Sauce Lead on something we should be very proud of because the teams are really getting after that crime prevention part of their patrol work and focusing their effort. And our school intervention efforts have started a couple of years ago, but really ramped up in 2011. We, starting with, of course, the beginning of school year, and as many people that were working day shift, went out and worked the traffic control and the parking plan for the new THE FAMILY. parents and the kids coming to school in their first week It's pretty fun for us to have that non-enforcement type of interaction with the kids. After that, We've tried to make it to the school at recess time every day. We don't always make it because calls for service don't allow it. but a lot of days that we do, and to try and have some type of, again, non-enforcement, Thank you. interaction with the kids. And we had the, I'll talk about it as we go to the traffic complaints and resolution, you know, we had the Office of Traffic Safety Grant. Part of that included outreach to the kids at the school. with bicycle safety and also with a helmet giveaway. So we were able to purchase enough helmets with the state money that we gave away a whole slew of them, I don't know, about 100 of them to the kids. So the officers went and made presentations, handed out a bunch of helmets, and it was a great deal of fun for everybody. So we liked that part. |
| 01:40:34.06 | Unknown | . |
| 01:40:43.09 | Chief Tejada | Traffic complaints and our resolution efforts takes a significant amount of our time. and It's one of the things that we probably would like to see improvement for ourselves. We do a lot of it based on complaints. We don't really have a lot of time to do I don't know. preventive traffic enforcement, it's almost always reactive. traffic complaints. You know, we worked through the Spencer speeding and the Booker stop sign issue in partnership with Public Works. We did it at Coloma and Olima looking at speed and radar and Anywhere people complained about coming into town on south on Alexander But, It's sporadic for us and we think we could do better, but we're probably gonna need a little bit of help with that. An interesting statistic for us is that in 2002 we had more people. We had 24 sworn officers today, we just have 18. Yet, the amount of criminal activity but mostly the traffic collisions and hazardous violations Thank you. are higher now. but with less people to get after it. And so we really want to put some effort into proactive traffic work. And we've got a couple things in mind that are short-term One of them is that the chief was able to get an agreement with other agencies here in Brind County, specifically Twin Cities for starters, to loan us a motorcycle and to loan us a motorcycle trainer so that they can TRAIN. to work with the police. Um, ride that motorcycle and do some selected traffic enforcement. What we really want, rather than a full, what we call a full enforcement motorcycle, what we really want to get to at some point here is we want to get to having two what we call dual purpose motorcycles. They look like part street bike, part off-road bike. We think that they would be a huge benefit to us in special events, and, um, emergency situations where we need to be able to get around in a crowd where we just can't do it in a car. They're significantly less expensive than a full you know, road bike for traffic enforcement, a little less equipment issues and training behind it, and a lot more benefit. But we're gonna get on that right away. We have an opportunity to send a couple of our people to the motorcycle riding school in April. We're going to do some training with the Twin Cities people in March. We want to start working towards that effort of doing some Proactive Traffic Enforcement and see what those results look like so we can come back to you and talk to you about Our results are And frankly, put the arm on you for some more people. And so at the time that we get there, you want to build our case, but that's That's what we want to do. So that's the end of my presentation. |
| 01:43:45.39 | Councilmember Weiner | Justice. |
| 01:43:47.19 | Chief Tejada | Presentation, I'll turn it over to the Lieutenant's group. Sorry, go ahead. |
| 01:43:50.20 | Councilmember Weiner | if you just clarify Part one and part two. |
| 01:43:53.00 | Chief Tejada | Oh, I'm sorry. Sure, Part 1 crimes are measurement of definitions from both the federal government and the state government like homicide, rape, robbery, auto theft, grant theft. and a couple others. There's like this little test question to the Police Academy, those last two, I forget what they are. But part two crimes are the more common ones, theft and almost everything else. And so for us, part two crimes, probably the majority of those numbers are all theft cases. Theft is our number one crime in Sausalito. And so that's the difference. Any other questions? Okay. |
| 01:44:38.04 | Unknown | That bad boy work. |
| 01:44:41.43 | Adam Politzer | Right there, I'm going to go, wrong one. |
| 01:44:42.04 | Unknown | I'm not. That guy right there. |
| 01:44:43.99 | Adam Politzer | Okay. |
| 01:44:48.92 | Unknown | There we go. Good evening, Mayor, City Council members. The chief gave me two minutes to give my spiel, and she gave me two slides, so you can see I used about an eight font to get all my information on. Before I get started, I always like to commend the officers and sergeants for doing such an excellent job. You look at the sergeants. Bill Frost, not only is he supervising a patrol team, but he's doing an excellent job on the boat program and EOC. You have Tom Georges, who's working the field training officer program. Steve Evero, who's doing the firearms training, and also Sergeant Gregory, who you'll probably see about 20 slides later about all the projects she's involved in, but she's also our training manager. A little bit off topic, the good work she's doing in training, she's coming up with a training plan for our department that outlines training paths for employees at all levels to try to get them to succeed and grow within the department. She also set up the team building workshop in September of last year where we all got together as a group and discussed common expectations of each other, Some of the things that we discussed was as the chief mentioned earlier about the mission statement talking about who we are. We talked about improving our employee evaluation system to get a more accurate view of our officers' capabilities. We discussed the in-car camera system. And we also talked about our staffing levels, And with that staffing, our current staffing levels, how do we provide quality service to our customers And we also talked about accountability at all levels. Um, Now we'll go back to the slides. And what's more amazing is that all this is done, and we were down two positions for most of the last year, so we were down to about 16 sworn. We did have a push for hiring. I believe you know the first one, Chief Jennifer, and I can't pronounce that. I think it's Tejada up there. We hired Jesse Callahan. Unfortunately, he did not make it through a training program. We promoted Chris Majora from lead parking attendant to parking enforcement officer. And another hire we did was seasonal parking enforcement Beth Delago. And she's a local and just an excellent employee. Also we promoted Elliott Holt from parking lot attendant to the lead parking lot supervisor. He's also done an excellent job. We tried to start our reserve officer program. Our standards are high, so the person we did hire failed that because we only want to hire quality people. Investigations, Brian Mather's going to give you a presentation, but, you know, along with his normal patrol duties, he assisted in 46 criminal investigations. As far as internal affairs, as far as investigating citizen complaints, we handled two last year, and both were unfounded. Um, We worked on the holding cell as designed from Alton. There was some deficiencies in design. There was possible suicide issues with the placement of the sink, so we had to get contractors out and I never knew that contractors, even if you gave them a lot of money, they don't show up. In fact, you go through many and they still don't show up. We did work with the California Correction Standard Authority. Our holding cell was inspected and approved as long as our, with our policy that we proposed. They call me Mr. Parking because it seems like a lot I did last year was parking. My excellent staff, Gene Shirts, who I'm not sure if you know, is in the hospital. He had his hip replacement a couple days ago. I visited him earlier today, and he's recovering great. He should be back to work in a couple days. Elliot Holt, our parking lot attendants, and also the parking enforcement officers, and our lot of attendants, and I think they're all doing a great job. We did a lot with the parking lots, and I do have to thank Jonathan Goldman for assisting with quite a few aspects of that. We worked with T-Mobile, and we convinced them to aim one of their cellular towers to the downtown area to get better cell reception. And the pay stations live off wireless communications. If they don't have it, they can't transmit credit card information or anything to the back end. We issued approximately 1,200 resident cards. We did have the two days where we set up in Lot 3 and handed out the resident cards to the residents. Elliot Holt and his staff, I'm not sure if you remember, they asked you to list your license plate numbers on the application. He manually listed, entered all those license plates into a computer, so no matter how hard you try to get a ticket in a lot, one or lots, that hopefully you won't get it because it's going to show up that you're a resident before they issue a ticket. And people have been trying very hard to get tickets. We work towards improving lot signage. We've been working with the hotels and Jean Hillers to implement the vehicle registration system so they can prepay for their customer parking. And we're currently in negotiations with a company called Streetline. They provide the in-ground sensors. They're offering us their second generation, which they claim goes from, like, 95% or 96% accuracy to 99.5%, 99%. So it's a real jump in accuracy. And we negotiated down their price, and their price and that saved the city $65,000 a year. And that's the end of my presentation. Thank you. |
| 01:51:30.63 | Unknown | . |
| 01:51:35.98 | Thomas Georges | Thank you for having us. My name is Thomas Georges and I'm a sergeant for the Salsa Police Department. Good quarter of us are here tonight, so I'm happy to be here. Anyway, as Lieutenant Skoog mentioned a little bit earlier, a couple of my special duties are field training program coordinator as well as weapons, defensive tactics. And they basically asked us to give a couple highlights of our shift for last year. While we had quite a bit of good enforcement throughout the entire year, there's two programs specifically I really wanted to share. And it's something that's a little more under the radar and something that you guys may or may not know much about. The first one would be our bicycle patrol. Staffing permitting, I would definitely like to place an officer on a bicycle in the downtown area. And there's three distinct reasons for that. The first one is it gives us face time with people in our community. And that's drastically different than when we actually have patrol ability, availability in a patrol car. Because you get people walk up, lag us down, and we're right there. The second reason would be mobility within the community. When we see a violation or if we need to get around within people or very tight cars, we can take that patrol bicycle and get to where you need to go. And the third reason is for bicycle enforcement. It's one tool that we do have right now in the city that allows us to keep up with bicycles to get through them. So when we do see violations, we can go hunt them down, ultimately. We use that for another tool as well with bicycles. We're able to keep up with them and we give them unsolicited advice whether they want to hear it about our safety within the streets. Our main goal is ultimately to keep it forethought that safety is important and please respect the entire community. The negative side of that, however, is when you're at a bike. You can't get to most of the city. Flat out, you can't do it in reverse response. And when you get there, you have no place of putting the bad guy. So there are downsides, and staffing definitely is a biggie. So we have to have multiple people on a shift in order to get a body down there. And that tends to be more rare than we like. The second highlight that my team took on was the taxi operations. Several years ago, the county started a new taxi regulation board, and that kind of stopped our enforcement here because we didn't know where we sat as far as our city ordinances and the county. They didn't match very well. So for the last, I would say probably three years or so, they went more or less unregulated in the city. And the outcome of that is you have many different companies in town, and you have no faces to them. And for us, it makes it difficult. My patrol team was basically a liaison for our city with the county and all the taxi companies. We started doing constant contacts with them in the downtown area to get that face time, make sure that all the regulations were set forth as far as permits and making sure everything fits. You got a license. That's sort of it. A little slide here for you guys too. |
| 01:54:47.11 | Unknown | We said. |
| 01:55:09.01 | Thomas Georges | We definitely use the bicycles while we're down there talking to them, unless it's easy to get around and talk with them. Um, By doing this, we feel like we got more of a hold on where the regulations are, as well as basic traffic violations from our taxi companies. Just because we were getting a lot of out-of-town taxi people, and it was just different. They didn't know where we stood as far as what's safe and what's not and what we allow. So last, as far as this goes, it kind of led us in the new direction coming up this year. Starting this Friday, we're having a meeting with many of our bicycle companies here at the police department and trying to be a few leads on between them and the bicycle rental companies. The goal is to try to come up with some sort of middle ground of transporting the rental bikes up to the base of the Golden Gate Bridge and hopefully alleviate some of the congestion in the downtown area this summer. So I'm looking forward to that. Hopefully it will lead somewhere for us. Any questions? Thank you. |
| 01:56:23.36 | Councilmember Weiner | How many times were you almost hit while you were on bike patrol? Because I've seen him get almost hit a couple of times. |
| 01:56:28.24 | Thomas Georges | Me personally, I actually was not able to get on a bike the entire year. So I'll say, Thank you. |
| 01:56:37.99 | Councilmember Weiner | about you when you were out of the room. Because I see you almost get hit a couple of times on bike patrol just going up and down Bridgeway. |
| 01:57:02.36 | Unknown | Oops, oops, isn't it? |
| 01:57:14.76 | Chief Tejada | It's my pleasure to introduce Sergeant Herbert. Good evening. |
| 01:57:18.74 | Unknown | Good evening. |
| 01:57:18.97 | Unknown | Good evening. |
| 01:57:20.70 | Unknown | My name is Steven Vivereau. I've been employed with the Sausalito Police Department for eight years now. Unlike my wonderful colleagues, whom you've already heard from, some of them, I do the best to avoid additional assignments and responsibilities. |
| 01:57:32.92 | Unknown | So I don't have statistics. |
| 01:57:33.32 | Unknown | So I don't have statistics or program updates to offer tonight. Now, since I've said that aloud, I'm sure my future presentations will have plenty of new assignments. You have met some of the stars behind the badges of our department. I consider myself a role player and relish my opportunities to assist with anything in whatever manner necessary for the organization to successfully meet objectives. I feel one of my important roles is team building and creating a fun, productive work environment for employees so they can achieve our collective organizational objectives. At our recent Police Department yearly All Hands meeting, I thought it was important to remind our employees that we work in a beautiful environment. We work for intelligent and involved, caring citizens with a passion for making Sausalito the best town possible. We are fortunate to also work alongside other city agencies, staffed by smart and dedicated professionals. It is my belief that our shared values combined with our unique differences make Sausalito the best place to live and work. My goal is to share my love and passion for my job, for my coworkers, and for the citizens I serve. I'm going to briefly present material from our recent team building training. One of my roles as a patrol sergeant is to successfully mesh the organizational goals with each individual employee goals. Achieving a cohesive work environment increases our ability to be successful. When a team becomes more aligned, with commonality of direction, with shared vision and understanding how to complement one another's efforts emerges Individual energies harmonize. You'd already heard this before, but I'm going to reiterate it. With integrity and professionalism, we are dedicated to work in partnership with our community to ensure safety, quality of life, and community trust. As an organization, we have identified the following as important values. Principled, ethical, integrity, honesty, accountability, professionalism, honorable, fair, courageous, tolerant, and respectful of differences. On the overhead projector, you'll see a list of 10 elements. Research into what characterizes great police agencies has found that these elements were present in each department. Each department's formula is a little different, but these differences account for their unique character. I'll read the list aloud for those who might not be able to see it. in the back row. Thank you. Profile of great police agencies is result orientation, community service, employee empowerment, innovation, education and training, equipment and technology, selective hiring, humble leadership, family and supportive culture, and a distinct organizational culture. The Saucyotl Police Department does a great job achieving these elements of success. We are outstanding at results orientation, which is the measure of what we do and how we do it. We are outstanding at customer service and the family and supportive culture. and selective hiring. We have some outstanding individuals. And all of this leads us to our uniquely wonderful, distinct organizational culture. We are constantly striving to achieve greatness in each category and this can only be accomplished by dedicated people. I'm proud to share that we are a group of dedicated professionals at your service. It is important for the individuals within the organization to believe in the vision and objectives of the group. but it is also important for the organization to respect each individual's values. As individuals, we likely share similar values, family, safety, financial security, food, shelter, clothing, professional achievements, personal goals, community relationships, love, and friendships. There are likely many other values that might not be important to you or I, but others might place a higher value on them. Please remember to be tolerant, listen, comprehend, and walk a mile in someone else's shoes. Gaining an understanding of our differences will only bring us closer to accepting those differences. We do a great job of meeting the needs of the citizens we serve. but a reminder to take care of each other within the organization is necessary. Each person is vital to our success and we should treat them that way. United together, city officials, employees, and citizens of Sausalito, we are powerful and can overcome any future challenges in our path. Standing divided and not communicating in isolation is a recipe for failure. The shadow of one person pales in comparison to the shadow of many. Stand together and achieve greatness. Thank you. And I brought the hearts of the police department to share with everyone. |
| 02:02:16.93 | Stacy Gregory | I'm not sure. |
| 02:02:31.10 | Unknown | I only have one slide so I don't have to manipulate it. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:02:40.15 | Stacy Gregory | THE END OF THE END OF THE Good evening, I'm Sergeant Stacy Gregory. I'm going to talk about a few of the programs I'm involved with. First, talk about my team highlights. This past year, I think it was this past year, my team came up with a program where we go and check for unlocked vehicles in the city. and So the purpose of that is, like Chief Tejada was saying, It's crimes of opportunity. There's unlocked cars, there's unlocked homes. People are going to go in it and take stuff, whether it's change or laptops, because people So we go around at night and check the doors. When we find one, we do our best to secure the car. and we leave a little note. And I don't know if you guys have seen or heard, but I'll just read it really quick. This notice is to inform you that the Sausalito Police Department was in your area making efforts to reduce the crimes of opportunity which occur when vehicles are left unlocked. You're receiving this notice because your vehicle was found unsecured. Please make sure to always secure your vehicle to assist us in our mission. Thank you, the Sausalito Police Department has a spot for the officer's name, email, and phone. There are people that have called us and were upset that we did this, but for the most part, it's people really like it. Just this last week, an example. We did two streets on the south end of town, and we found 19 vehicles unlocked in those two little streets. So it's pretty significant. So hopefully we can educate people to lock their vehicles in homes when they leave them. The next thing in Curtis, excuse me, Lieutenant Skoog has already touched on this, is the training. I'm the training manager, and so my goal is to get all the officers through post-training, which is state mandated. And we did that last year. We're on track to do that again this year. We also try to get some... Some more of the training that officers want to go to, not always just first aid, CPR, things like that, but we try to throw in a great mix of it. We're also working to finalize our training plan and what that does is sets out the training for each position, for each person in the Police Department. their minimum standards, and then desirable training. and the required training by the state. It also helps to just enhance our service to the public. You know, the more training officers go to, you know, the more skills and tools they have to pull from. And then to just continue the professional development to the career path wherever they want to go. So that's in the works and hopefully it'll be done soon. No. About six months ago, Chief Tejada came up with an idea that she wanted to do some sort of outreach to the homeless and anchor out community. So she got in touch with a few people with the Health and Human Services in the county. They came together. She assigned me and Officer White and Officer Rogers as the team to represent the police department. So we started with that. Since then, we've had two events. One was in Dunphy Park, where we allowed the homeless community to come to us, and we provided them with all kinds of services. The other was out on the water and this is the day where we sent Officer Rogers and Officer White with the county personnel as well as some nurses from UCSF And we went out to their homes. I'm not sure. provided them services, gave them you know, the essential things that they may need that they don't have Um, So throughout those two events, we served over 40 people. And what I mean by that, there's many people that said, yeah, no thanks. But the 40 people either took flu shot, food, life vests, everything. We had fire extinguishers, eye care certificates so they could go and get free eye care. Just a whole bunch of stuff that was provided by the different agencies in the county. The other really neat thing about this program is Sean Stevens works for Health and Human Services. And his goal is to find veterans in the county. So what he does is he finds specifically homeless people that are veterans, and the term veteran is misleading because it's anybody who's served in the military. whether it's for a short time, a veteran, not a veteran, whatever, he takes these people and he brings them to the services that are available to people that have served. So our folks are out there and when they talk to somebody who's homeless and we find out if they've served, then we hook them up with Sean and In fact, We've had seven people. And quite a few of them are working on getting housing. They're getting money that they were owed. I mean, it's just amazing that some of the stuff that's out there for these people, and they don't know about it. Some of the success stories, the biggest one, is Roger Jacquez, and I think you all know him. He's the blind man. He used to sit across from hamburgers or in the Bank of America bus stop. He's now in housing, he can see. I walked up to him and he said, hi, Stacy. And it's just amazing. He's clean. He looks awesome. He's healthy. And he's still there. Um, So we had one anchor out, she's not really an anchor out, Through the press, she contacted me directly and said, look, I need help with my teeth. All her teeth are rotting out of her face, so she needs help. Through the press that she's seen, she emailed me. So we're gonna take her drive her somewhere. I'm not going to drive her, but the Health and Human Services Department is going to come and get her. Thank you. bring her there, get her the care she needs, and bring her back because she doesn't have any other way to do it. AND THEN ANOTHER success story is the veteran that was owed some money for his combat service and Sean was able to help him get that So, and like it says here, I think the biggest accomplishment is that these people are coming to us for help now. So, that's huge in itself. That's just a picture of them out on the boat during the boat day. the picture's a little dark, I apologize, but The RUOK program is something that's still kind of in its infancy. I remember back in the day we used to have this program through the fire department. We'd make a phone call every day. If they didn't answer, the police would take a key and go and check on them. Well, that's kind of... my idea of my ultimate goal Right now it's not anywhere near that, but we have this form that has all the information that we would need to know about any elderly person that lives in our community. Um, So it gives us quick access to their information. We respond for whatever reason, whether they're down, whether they need their battery in their phone, fire extinguisher fixed. we know who we can contact, the fire department has all their information. Rather than us having to dig through their house, to find their medication to try to figure out what's wrong with them. It's right there, it'll be on the refrigerator, and we'll have a copy of it in our, in the police department as well. I'm also working with Sausalito Village, to share information. They have a bunch of information already. They want our stuff involved with them. So in this way, when we're out in the field, if we come across somebody who doesn't know we can get their information, pass that on, so everybody's in the same loop. So better service, just meaning that we have that immediate information so we can do it right then rather than have to wait or figure it out. The other thing is, in a disaster or a major storm or the power outage, we know where these people are. So if we know there's a certain area affected and we know for a fact there's an elderly person there that may need help, we can go and take care of them. So that's that program. And then the Citizens Police Academy, I've been involved . Sorry, I've been involved with that for a while. We just finished our 17th class. in July 2011 and the great thing from that is we got, from that one class we got five brand new VIPs. So that's huge. It's a, the academy is a prerequisite to becoming a VIP. So, and I think most of you have been through the program. And so it involves the class time, the ride-alongs, topics, you know, just getting to know us better. And so the next class is scheduled hopefully for the spring, possibly summer of 2012. That's it. Any questions? |
| 02:11:30.41 | Unknown | Just say, when did you join the force? How long have you been? |
| 02:11:34.12 | Stacy Gregory | December 1997. |
| 02:11:36.37 | Unknown | Well... Thank you. |
| 02:11:36.79 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:11:36.81 | Unknown | Wow. |
| 02:11:37.97 | Stacy Gregory | Good job. |
| 02:11:38.04 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:11:38.07 | Unknown | THE JOURNEY. |
| 02:11:38.38 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 02:11:38.44 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:11:38.63 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:11:38.73 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:11:39.34 | Stacy Gregory | . |
| 02:11:39.61 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:11:39.66 | Stacy Gregory | Thank you. |
| 02:11:39.74 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:11:49.04 | Brian Mathers | Good evening, Council Members, Mayor Brian Mathers, South Slido PD. I'm the detective, and I was just told to go five slides ahead, running out of time. So let's go forward. But I'll talk a little about crime trends and our sample case. Like the captain talked about earlier, property crimes is probably the biggest crime in South Slido. It's who we get hit with the most. People see South Slido as an affluent community. They're rich with gold and all that good stuff. It's totally not that everywhere, but they see it as that and they come here and they pillage our town for that on their way to San Francisco and they go pawn it everywhere in the North Bay, East Bay and South Bay. |
| 02:11:55.84 | Unknown | running out of time, so. |
| 02:12:32.65 | Brian Mathers | Just to go over a couple of some of the crimes, other than property crimes, it is the majority. Some of the cases I investigated this year with Southern Marin Detectives, since I'm the only detective with the South Little PD, I have to outsource and kind of use other detectives within the county to help me out. But primarily the cases that I investigated this year are robbery, assault, arson, sexual assault, elder abuse, child abuse, fraud, embezzlement, vandalism, and prostitution. A sample case this year, I'll go over this sample case, and I'll put frickin' frack up there real quick for you. |
| 02:13:06.65 | Unknown | I'll wait for you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:13:13.60 | Brian Mathers | I also don't have a filter. I should have brought my filter tonight. I apologize. Anyway, in 2011, officers were called by a citizen that reported two suspicious subjects in the driveway. These subjects also happened to be driving a stolen car that was taken from Sausalito a week prior. It was on the south end. They were, I think, in the north end of town this time. But yeah, it was just taken a few days earlier. Officers responded to the scene, converged on the area after a short search. |
| 02:13:17.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:13:17.04 | Unknown | Anyway. |
| 02:13:17.33 | Unknown | THE FAMILY. |
| 02:13:41.26 | Brian Mathers | We found them on cable roadway at the very bottom. People didn't, they weren't from here, so they didn't know where they were going. So as you all know, it's very hard to get your way around town. They ended up going out at Dead End Street. We found them down there, pulled them out at gunpoint. arrested or taken into custody prior to taking one of the guys guy on the right. taken him into custody, he decided that it'd be smart for him to ingest a quarter ounce of methamphetamine. Thank you. So we didn't know that at the time, but he was spitting profusely, and we were trying to figure out what's going on. You know, because now his safety, he's in the care and custody of us. We have to take care of this guy and then figure out what else is going on here. Both of these guys are on parole. for multiple assault, robbery, burglary, auto theft, of course, and have been in and out of prison a lot. But the gentleman on the right, he actually was on federal probation because he escaped prison. So I don't know how that really happens, but you get out after you get out. I don't know. |
| 02:14:39.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:14:42.58 | Brian Mathers | Either way. So the guy ingested a quarter ounce of methamphetamine. We booked him in. We ended up having to spend over two days on overtime, regular patrol time, calling people in from, you know, that we're on vacation because we're so short staffed. But to watch this guy in the hospital while he was in ICU, because he almost died. I stood there where they were sticking everything they possibly could in this guy to try to revive him. And eventually he did, and he was booked. And that's what he looked like when he was booked. So he looked a lot better than when we saw him. But once we booked this guy, we now had all this property to go through. There was property in this car that was stolen from San Francisco, multiple burglary cases in San Francisco and in Southern Marin and of course the vehicle that I had to process with other officers that helped me out but there's a large amount of time that goes into just one case like this with all that property because I have to figure out who that belongs to and then develop a great case to where I can put these guys behind bars for even longer. And that's with the good work of our officers, doing follow-up, neighborhood checks, talking to witnesses and everything else. But it takes a long time to put this case together by the time we have to go sit in a courtroom and hopefully not waste court time and just get a plea out of these guys that entails some certain extensive time in Yale. But while I was investigating this case and while I was sitting in the hospital, A member of the JTTF called me, the Joint Terrorism Task Force in San Francisco. He's also part of the FBI and in San Francisco investigations. He called me and told me that Both of these knuckleheads happen to go to Cal Pacific Medical Center in San Francisco earlier that day prior to coming to Sausalito to do a little adventure here. Um. they went to that place and were videotaping. They were caught videotaping the inside of the hospital. And that's suspicious. It's a transplant center. There's really nobody there but visiting their sick, you know, loved ones and everything. And these guys are just walking around with their hood on, videotaping stuff. Security converged on them there, chased them out of the hospital and in the sally port or in the parking garage. |
| 02:16:46.19 | Unknown | in. |
| 02:16:49.50 | Brian Mathers | they actually tried to run over the security guard with the car. So all of this kind of raised the awareness of the JTTF, the SFPD, and NICRIC, which is Northern California Regional Intelligence Center. Say that ten times fast, but... It kind of clued them in that something's not right. Why are these guys videotaping this hospital? What are they doing here? And then they ultimately got caught two hours later in Sausalito by our patrol officers and myself. And Lieutenant Scug was actually there because we were short-handed that day, so he came out in his little undercover car. So anyway. |
| 02:17:18.96 | Unknown | that day. |
| 02:17:19.55 | Unknown | He came out. |
| 02:17:20.13 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:17:23.32 | Mayor | Um, |
| 02:17:24.02 | Unknown | So anyway... |
| 02:17:25.97 | Mayor | Bye. |
| 02:17:26.03 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:17:26.10 | Unknown | . |
| 02:17:27.11 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:17:27.15 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:17:27.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:17:27.69 | Brian Mathers | Thank you. |
| 02:17:27.70 | Unknown | like crazy. |
| 02:17:29.49 | Brian Mathers | After reviewing all the tapes, because they had tons of videotapes, I spent weeks going through all these videotapes, seeing stuff that I didn't want to see, but I had to look at. Going through, trying to compile evidence, figure out what these guys were doing. They had surveillance in places all over San Francisco on their cell phones and everything else. But a great deal of work went in between myself and officers in our department and also working with the officers in San Francisco and the JTTF. Try to compile a case where we could put these guys away because they obviously don't need to be roaming the streets. So after extensive investigation, both these subjects were able to be charged with several felonies and now are in prison for quite some time. It's unknown right now what they were actually doing. It was obvious that they were probably trying to conduct some type of surveillance for a future case. Both of them have ties to the Hells Angels and other Aryan Brotherhood. bad people. So they're both convicted. and put away, and it's all because a citizen called us because they thought it was suspicious, really, ultimately, because we were all in the station writing reports. So a citizen called us. thought this was suspicious that these two knuckleheads were in their driveway, called us, we got there, and it led to a long investigation but a productive one. And this is, you know, basically how a lot of our investigations start, and that they are all that extensive and take a lot of time and a lot of resources. you So it kind of shows you what our typical case is like. you know, some smaller ones where you just take a report. But our officers like to go a little bit further and, and do all the legwork so we can have, so I can have a productive investigation, otherwise it goes Um, So that's kind of a sample of what we do. And looking forward with the Saucelago Police Department investigations, what I would like to do is continue to analyze crimes within the city and county to show where increased patrols or special operations are needed. to protect our citizens, their property, and overall quality of life. from these type of guys. Recognize problem areas quickly and when they present themselves and find a solution quickly and responsibly. This is by you know, conducting thorough investigations, utilizing outside agencies as we have, Um, and putting our minds together, learn who's in our counties because I don't know who's in Twin Cities or San Rafael unless I have meetings with these detectives which we now do. We started this last year. So we try to do that so we can this from happening and know who these people are. That way when our patrol officers see them, they know that they're up to no good, they shouldn't be here, they're on parole, probation, whatever it may be. And the other thing too is, you know, bouncing off what Sergeant Gregory said, we need to keep our citizens informed because there does sometimes a sense of complacency sets in where people have, you know, 19 cars that are left unlocked. Or when we go take a burglary report and they tell us that You know, I never knew there was crime at Sausalito. I left my door unlocked for the last week, and I was on vacation the whole time, didn't tell anybody. You know, so we do do vacation checks. You should probably come talk to us next time you go. Unlock your doors, please. Because it creates a lot of work, and, you know, if we're not working together, we're really not going to be successful, as Sergeant Favaro said. Looking forward, we're going to send out more press releases, I hope, and try to get people informed, let them know what's going on, not to create any sense of unrest, but mostly just to kind of keep them informed so we can move forward and prevent crime. Thank you. |
| 02:21:08.24 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:21:08.97 | Chief Tejada | Thank you. |
| 02:21:09.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:21:13.31 | Chief Tejada | All right, we've taken up an incredible amount of your time, and I'm aware of that. I think we'll reschedule Sergeant Frost for his emergency preparedness and also the Marine Patrol Program. He had to leave for a domestic violence call. Oh, goodness. There we go. So I'm going to zip through this. There are several more slides. It's really important for us to recognize the great work that our people do, and I think tonight you hopefully got a sense of, the great talent that's in our organization, the great teamwork, and the great awareness of how working with the community is going to help us do our job better and keep this community the safe and enjoyable place that it is to live, work, and play. These are the two acknowledgments that we made this year. It was super difficult to make choices because these awards are generated from nominations from their peers, and we had more than two nominations. So it was quite a difficult challenge, but then again it speaks to how everybody appreciates everybody else in this organization. So Detective Brian Mather actually was our Employee of the Year. |
| 02:22:30.86 | Unknown | you |
| 02:22:34.32 | Chief Tejada | And then Officer Francisco Padilla was the recipient of the Mark Thomas Award. They really were very, very deserving, great officers, great contributors to this organization, this community, come to work with a can-do attitude. And so it's just, it's an honor to be able to recognize them and share it with you and the public. I keep hitting the wrong button here. Okay, and so all of these accomplishments are only possible because we all work together, and it's outstanding work. And I'm just so honored to be the chief of this organization, where all these people do such amazing work. notion of I can't do it. It's should we do this? Could we do this? Yes, we'll do it. And they go out and make it happen. Where are we now? You've obviously, I think, heard the message. We're busier than we were before. We have less people than we had before. But as you can see, we're getting the job done. This is a safe place to live. It's a fun place to visit, a great place to be in. We are seeing small trends increasing in our crimes. And we're doing more with less. Here's that chart again. You saw that in Captain Rohrabacher's presentation. So I'm not going to spend time on that. As you know, I did identify that the entire waterfront is an area where we were not devoting resources. We have significant businesses down there, property, and presence of people who uh, um, are involved in quality of life crime. And so we, if Bill were here and did his presentation, you would find out how significantly he has been able to increase the hours on the water. And as I just said, the big coup recently is the partnership with Honan Security. We're going to go out with them on the boat. They actually pay the cost of our officers to do that. It's an overtime cost because we can't do it on regular hours. We need them on their regular shifts. But that's a significant coup for us, and we're very excited about that. We're going to continue to seek ways to deliver that service to the waterfront community. Service delivery, you know, it's all of these components. It's shared community missions and values, meeting the community's norms and expectations. And I have to say this community has very high expectations of our service delivery, very high. We have to have effective resources. We have to really commit to delivering resources to the community in order to meet these expectations. We have to have available discretionary time. The officers have to have that. If they don't have that, we're going to be flatline or we're going to see an increase. And quality problem solving strategies is important. And I think you've seen tonight that this staff is just amazing. Very talented, very skilled, very committed, very motivated to keeping this place safe. any one of those in that equation. pulled out, it means that we're not doing the best that we can do. So just a visual for you to have to think about that everything there has to be in place in order for us to continue to do what we're doing and expand. We talked about staffing. I wanted to put a staffing chart up. because I'm a very visual person. So you can see this is a snapshot of staffing for the first week of February. So we're 25% lower than we were in 2002, but with One person out on injury and two vacancies were actually 33% lower in staffing than we were in 2002. So, It's quite significant if somebody has a day off, somebody has a vacation, it's very difficult to move another person into that slot. Yours truly has work patrol. The captain has worked patrol. The lieutenant has worked patrol. The detective has been pulled out of his office to work patrol to make this happen. That's truly skeleton staffing. And again, I just say that because it's amazing what these people deliver in service, given the challenges that we have. So these are our overall goals for 2012. We're going to continue to do what we do. We're going to continue to make you proud of this community and keep it the great community that it is. We're very resourceful. These are drilling down more the things that we're going to be looking at. We're going to continue to seek cost savings in how we deliver service. We're going to look to other agencies. We've been very fortunate that Twin Cities, Nevada OPD has helped us out with this project. uh um traffic enforcement program. We really want to see if it'll impact. It's so hard for an officer in a car to get someone who's reported up on Alexander and come down and catch them and get around other cars, and it's just by the time the patrol officers get there, they're gone. They're so fast. If we had a motorcycle, we could navigate the traffic a little bit better, especially during the busier tourist season times. And then up in the hills, it's much easier to get up there on a dual purpose bike than it is in a police car and be effective. And so I leave you with our mission statements. And that's who we are, and I hope it speaks to what we do and how we do it. And after almost an hour, I will take questions. I'm so sorry. |
| 02:27:53.14 | Stacy Gregory | I'm sorry. |
| 02:27:54.04 | Mayor | Sorry. Thank you. All right, do you have any questions? Any questions? Good job, Kenneth. I think you answered them all. |
| 02:28:03.08 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:28:03.66 | Mayor | Thank you. Thank you all. I really appreciate it. |
| 02:28:11.59 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:28:13.04 | Adam Politzer | Mr. Mayor, if I can just before everyone walks out, I just remind the council that Chief Tejada is coming on to her year of service to the city. And remember we had our big welcome to the community on St. Patrick's Day, which isn't far away. But I think that if you remember what she stated at the very beginning of the presentation, we asked her to come in with fresh eyes and take a look, work with the community, and maximize our resources. And I think you saw a clear display of that tonight. And for each of the men and women in the organization, I think I can speak for the community and for the council. We're very proud of the work that you folks do, and thank you for all your efforts. |
| 02:28:13.17 | Unknown | Mr. Mayor. |
| 02:28:14.02 | Unknown | Mr. Mayor. |
| 02:28:15.45 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:29:04.49 | Mayor | Indeed. |
| 02:29:08.76 | Mayor | There's a public comment period. Would anyone from the public like to comment on this? No? Just thumbs up. OK, great. Thank you again. |
| 02:29:16.35 | Unknown | that. |
| 02:29:16.42 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:29:21.28 | Mayor | All right, we're now at that section B2, which is the antenna, which is 4F. So, |
| 02:29:32.98 | Mary Wagner | Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'm happy to address the two issues that were raised by Mr. Donald, and I'm also happy to give you a little bit more of a staff report if you would like. |
| 02:29:41.89 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:29:41.90 | Unknown | Right. |
| 02:29:42.19 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. Why don't I jump to the two questions and then if there are additional questions I can follow up from there. |
| 02:29:46.09 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE Right. |
| 02:29:46.85 | Mary Wagner | So the two issues I understand Mr. Donald to raise were one, maintenance of the area that's leased by Verizon and to How is the city protected in the event that someone is injured by the operation of this facility up at 300 Spencer? Thank you. The answer to the first is if you look at page 4F15, Section 14 of the lease indicates that the tenant is required to keep and maintain the premises in good condition and reasonable wear and tear expected. So it is the tenant's obligation to maintain that portion of the premises that they're leasing from the city. And like any other landlord-tenant situation, The city in its capacity as a landlord can't just go into a space that's leased to the tenant without giving them notice and accept in emergency situations. So the tenant is obligated to maintain the premises. |
| 02:30:30.03 | Unknown | that. |
| 02:30:30.10 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:30:30.13 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:30:30.22 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:30:30.26 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:30:34.20 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. I think he's probably referring to landscaping around the They're not required to maintain the landscaping. |
| 02:30:39.56 | Mary Wagner | They're not required to maintain the landscaping. |
| 02:30:42.67 | Mayor | So, |
| 02:30:42.70 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:30:42.77 | Mayor | called the |
| 02:30:42.95 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:30:42.97 | Mayor | Coaches Department. Thank you. |
| 02:30:43.95 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:30:43.97 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 02:30:44.00 | Councilmember Weiner | Yeah. |
| 02:30:44.17 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 02:30:44.25 | Mary Wagner | What I heard him say was, what about what they lease? |
| 02:30:47.02 | Mayor | Yeah. |
| 02:30:47.27 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:30:47.31 | Mary Wagner | The tenant is not required to maintain the landscaping. With respect to claims against the city for injuries to somebody from the operation of the facility, I would point you to page 4F11, section 6. One, Verizon's required to carry insurance. |
| 02:30:47.34 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:31:04.50 | Mary Wagner | against claims for injuries to persons or damages to property and the city and various city officials and and employees are named as additional insureds under that policy. In addition, under Section 8, which is on 4F13, Um... The city is indemnified and it explicitly includes all claims against the city for damages, among other things, death or injury, to any third party for any reason except the city's willful or negligent misconduct. So I believe that the city is covered in the events that Mr. Donald was concerned about. |
| 02:31:38.96 | Mayor | Right. Okay. Does anybody up here have anything to say about this police? |
| 02:31:45.16 | Councilmember Weiner | Yeah, I had a question. And I was going to do it earlier, but we pulled it. Guide me to if it's a long lease, 20 years, we have the right to move them to some other piece of city property and we pay half or some. There's a division of costs I remember reading. What about if we just want to terminate the lease? How is that resolved? Because undoubtedly at some point that property is going to change. |
| 02:32:02.56 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:32:13.66 | Councilmember Weiner | perhaps is the whole function of it. Point me to the term, like, to like what does it spell that what the consequences are |
| 02:32:26.13 | Mary Wagner | Can I address the first question, which is the relocation question? |
| 02:32:29.47 | Councilmember Weiner | Yes, I read that part. |
| 02:32:31.26 | Mary Wagner | They can't be located to any other city property. They can be located on the premises, so at 300 Spencer. |
| 02:32:35.04 | Councilmember Weiner | Yes. Thank you. |
| 02:32:37.10 | Unknown | Right. |
| 02:32:37.11 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. |
| 02:32:37.13 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:32:37.22 | Councilmember Weiner | I'm sorry. |
| 02:32:37.27 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:32:38.08 | Mary Wagner | This is a provision that the city actually requested from the tenant. They had originally asked that the city pay all of their expenses, to which we responded no, and they agreed to half and half. |
| 02:32:47.98 | Unknown | Right. |
| 02:32:48.27 | Mary Wagner | With respect to the city's ability to terminate the lease, the city can only terminate the lease under specific circumstances, and the options to renew are in favor of the tenant. I will scan through here and find that section for you, but while I do that, |
| 02:32:48.29 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:33:01.84 | Mary Wagner | I would also point out that even if the city were to sell the property, it could sell it and would have to sell it subject to the, the lease, so somebody taking over the property may be interested in if it's the type of use that would allow it to the continued operation of the telecommunications facilities that are currently existing on the site. Bear with me and I'll find the termination sections. |
| 02:33:28.28 | Councilmember Weiner | So, unfortunately, |
| 02:33:28.67 | Mary Wagner | 11. |
| 02:33:29.21 | Councilmember Weiner | Number five. |
| 02:33:32.92 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 02:33:32.94 | Councilmember Weiner | There it is. |
| 02:33:32.95 | Mary Wagner | There it is. |
| 02:33:35.20 | Councilmember Weiner | It's only if I think defaults. |
| 02:33:37.12 | Mary Wagner | Which is standard, standard lease provision. |
| 02:33:37.16 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. So, Standard. Right. Yeah, standard. Thank you. Thank you. So I would think, and I forgot to bring this up in detail last time we talked about this, that it might be wise in this particular circumstance, to, even if it's some formula to arrive at what that cost would be, whether it's present value of future lease payments or whatever it is, or something that if we, I don't know what the right formula is because I didn't have time to get my head around it before this meeting, that if you had no choice, let's say you didn't want to, it was a, it turned into a residential property or a multi-use property, I don't even know what it could be. But if that was not a suitable location, which in our code, a residential property is a less preferred site for mobile or cellular towers, that the city could, and it would be at some cost to the city to terminate the lease early, I would imagine, because you'd have to help them with their relocation costs and some, I mean, they would, you know, they're going to come back and ask for that. I would thank that might, just having a mechanism to terminate early would be a wise thing in this particular case, given the length of time. Otherwise, it's going to be a heavily negotiated thing at that moment in time, and they could just sue, and then you probably would lose, right? So because there's no language in here. I know it means going back to the drawing board on this particular thing, but I think it might be wise to do so. So I don't know if that came up at the OMIC committee, |
| 02:35:22.32 | Mary Wagner | I don't believe it did come up at the Omit Committee. I believe that the manner in which we were trying to address other uses for that site and the fact that it is vacant and it's unknown at this time what the city's going to do with it that we included that relocation. clause, and that was meant to address that very situation. |
| 02:35:36.82 | Mayor | The idea was that if that site somehow ever got into a development mode, which I think is highly unlikely in any of our lifetimes, but let's say it did, that we could have the right to take the equipment away from the building, move it to the edge of the lot or some other obscure place where it's not bothering the building, and then we could deal with the building and the rest of the acreage. I think that's... I'm structured leases like you're talking about where we try to figure out some buyout or something and we could probably do that but we also have, I think, what, three other leases |
| 02:36:17.00 | Mary Wagner | Yes, and I don't have the information about the terms of those diseases in front of me. That is when they expire. |
| 02:36:22.21 | Mayor | Thank you. Thank you. I feel comfortable with the right to take them and move them anywhere we want to on the lot, which gets them away from the building, By the way, that building's likely historic, just to throw another bomb on the scene because it was built by a famous architect and it's close to 50 years old. |
| 02:36:39.00 | Unknown | Right. |
| 02:36:43.03 | Mayor | We could move it, put it on the corner of the lot next to the Caltrans parking. and then develop the rest of that lot. And all three of them would have to come out that way. I don't know, have we put, the other two haven't come up yet. So the idea was to get them all movable and then cluster them somewhere if we ever wanted to develop that. Thank you. |
| 02:37:00.45 | Councilmember Weiner | Well, the AT&T one is still in slots, right? They have a weird... |
| 02:37:01.39 | Mayor | But it's still a plug. |
| 02:37:04.90 | Councilmember Weiner | Remember they tried to come in for a change their not the length of the lease, but they're still in the approval process for their stuff. |
| 02:37:16.16 | Mary Wagner | I'd have to go back and look at that. |
| 02:37:16.83 | Councilmember Weiner | But the other two are probably the ones in the flagpole eight years maybe, into whatever lease they had, because that was when I was on the Planning Commission. They came in together, more or less. So they have a while to run. It's a thought. It would make somebody's life easier whenever that building changes whatever mode it is. But then at least I understand what you're saying. |
| 02:37:23.25 | Unknown | eight years maybe? |
| 02:37:24.36 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 02:37:24.41 | Unknown | whatever lease they had because that was when I was on the planning commission. |
| 02:37:44.58 | Councilmember Weiner | It's up to you. It's up to staff, I would say. Yeah. |
| 02:37:48.24 | Mayor | Yeah. I think I'm okay with it. Is everybody else okay with it? You guys okay with it? Okay. So a motion to... Oh, public comment. You want to talk to us? After all, you're the one that brought it up. |
| 02:38:05.35 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:38:05.38 | Mayor | I think. |
| 02:38:05.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:38:05.69 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 02:38:05.70 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:38:05.87 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 02:38:06.36 | Chuck Donald | Chuck Donald again. I'll try to get this within three minutes if I can. But the first part is about the radio frequency emissions that have come up. When this... Well, the first one, 20 years ago, this was a big issue with the public. There have been five more or four more. antennas put up there, and every time it's always, oh well, it meets federal standards. There's a big element of people, and I'm one of them out there, to think those federal standards are wrong, they're out of date if nothing else, and they should be studying. And there's no time better to do it than putting something in here. Now, I don't know what it would be. to bring to the people's attention, to the tenants' attention, that there is a big element of public mistrust, can I use that word, of what they're doing. That could cause problems to me. I live two houses away. And I have a skin condition that the dermatologists tell me, can possibly be attributed to electromagnetic radiation. There are other causes, so I can't go out there and sue those antenna companies because I can't prove they did it. It might be that I My wife uses the wrong kind of soap on the sheets of bed at night. It's out there and I think there's not enough attention that's been given to that point. I'd like somehow that had to be brought to the public's attention and to the next. of his tenants. if there's a question out there. I'll let that go. The other one point that I wanted to make is about the appearance of the site. I live right next door to it, and it just looks, if I can use the word, it looks like I just... I talked to Jonathan one time, and he got a crew out there, and they fixed it up that one time. It had gone so far down. He did it. but it needs more than that. Each of those tenants is responsible for what He has in those buildings, or outside in the ground tower, is not responsible for the grounds as a whole. Somebody has to take charge of that and be responsible for it. Unfortunately, I think there's no one more logical than our Public Works Department. But something should be done. For instance, there was a door fell off of the electric meter cabinet. Jonathan's crew went in there and replaced it. I don't know how they did it. banged some nails in it or something, but it's back up there. But it still looks bad. It needs things like, re-staining of this wood. It was a nice-looking building at one time, and it's not bad now. but it needs maintenance. Yeah. The windows have to be washed, if nothing else. Somebody's got to do that, and I say that because we in the neighborhood would like to say that that's a representative entrance to Sausalito. It's one of three. There's the one that comes down, Alexander, the one in the north, and there's Spencer Avenue. And it represents the city. I would like to personally, request some sort of policy be established for the maintenance of the grounds and the building. Thank you. |
| 02:41:06.03 | Mayor | Thank you. Mary, there's some language. |
| 02:41:13.93 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:41:14.03 | Mayor | I'm talking to a service provider about this. They have an exemption from Congress, don't they? And therefore, they stay away from this language like the Thank you. |
| 02:41:25.84 | Mary Wagner | We can only require that they meet the federal standards for EMF radiation. The city does not have the ability to impose higher standards than the federal regulations. |
| 02:41:28.10 | Mayor | standard. |
| 02:41:36.00 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 02:41:37.18 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 02:41:37.59 | Unknown | you |
| 02:41:37.64 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 02:41:37.74 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:41:37.76 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Mr. Mayor, I have a question. |
| 02:41:37.79 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:41:37.81 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 02:41:37.86 | Unknown | No. |
| 02:41:37.92 | Mary Wagner | Bye. |
| 02:41:37.94 | Unknown | you. |
| 02:41:38.03 | Mayor | Mayor. Thank you. Huh? |
| 02:41:39.93 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 02:41:40.02 | Mayor | Thank you. Oh, wait a minute. Another member of the public would like to talk. Just a minute. |
| 02:41:47.16 | Vicki Nichols | Vicki Nichols, 117 Caledonia. I would be curious to know what the other city property leases are. Twenty years is a long time. That is a historic building, or at least it was built by an architect of note, mid-century. But the idea of encumbering that property for 20 years with this issue, EMF is illegal to discuss based on the federal document. But we structured our ordinance to Deal with that by making less preferred locations, as you all know. I just think that encumbering the property for that long is, you know, and these applications are very site-specific. They come in and they argue to us, it has to be right here because this is where I get transmission. So your ability to move these other places is limited if we believe that they have to be cited exactly where they place them or they apply to place them. So I'm pretty sure I'm not going to win any arguments here, but I just want to bring that up for the record. And I'd also like to point out that in the wireless ordinance, there is language in there about landscaping of these structures. I know this is an unusual situation, but Chuck's got a point. If you have three vendors up there, three carriers up there, and no one's taking responsibility, no one's going to do it. For instance, if they had a cabinet. and they had some shrubbery that was conditioned to be around it to mitigate the site issues they would be required to maintain that landscaping. It's very clearly written in the ordinance. So I think you have some language in there to help you with that issue. |
| 02:43:32.74 | Mayor | Thanks. Thank you. Any other public comment? There's none. I'll bring it up here if somebody wants to say something. |
| 02:43:40.72 | Vice Mayor Williams | Mr. Mayor, I would like to see us landscape, go back to these tenants and have them landscape that property around their antennas and also have Public Works put that on their maintenance list so that regular maintenance is conducted up there because it is an entrance to Sausalito and it shouldn't be run down so we need to take care of the property regardless of whether we have any one in there so if we could direct staff to |
| 02:43:59.18 | Unknown | list. |
| 02:44:22.96 | Vice Mayor Williams | Give that to regular maintenance |
| 02:44:24.02 | Unknown | have regular maintenance. |
| 02:44:28.31 | Adam Politzer | Similar to the report that you just heard from the police department, we have four maintenance employees that oversee every public space in town. So similar to a call saying there's a strange vehicle on cable roadway, come and check it out. Unfortunately, that's how we maintain a lot of the city's stairways, public right-of-ways, public trees based on residents such as Mr. Donald calling us and saying, you know, it's an eyesore. We get it on the stairs. I think that Mr. Donald has done a nice job of communicating with our public works director. I know that our public works director is very responsible and has added it on to the maintenance divisions list to look at, but unless you want to defer maintenance on other property, including MLK at one end of town, to our existing property here at City Hall that we also have to maintain with the same four maintenance personnel and two custodians it just goes in a cycle and landscaping there are cities that remove landscaping because landscaping grows and if you don't maintain it it turns into a neat and unkept area and they'll put down more hardscape to minimize the the landscaping component on a building of that age i i would just add to mr. Donald that when we moved our firefighters in there during construction, we had to do a lot of testing because we were putting our employees in harm's way that were sleeping right there in the property. So we feel very confident three years ago that the testing that we did, in addition to the testing that we required the antenna companies to do, we also brought in an independent tester to make sure that we weren't putting our employees in harm's way. But once we moved out of that property, it's like a home. You know, if there's someone there, they're sweeping the yard, they're watering the garden, they're making sure their roof is in good shape, and now that's just another property that basically lays vacant, and it just ends up on our list of things to do. So as we look towards this next two-year cycle in the budget, I think you're going to hear a similar request from several of the departments is that we don't have the resources to keep up with the demand and as our community grows older. our buildings and our trees grow older, we need to have a plan on how we're going to maintain them, support them, and keep them from deteriorating to the point of disrepair. So I absolutely agree with Councilmember Ford and our resident Chuck Donald here, but it's on the long laundry list of things that are equally important to each neighbor in each community, each part of our town that is adjacent to some right of way Park I mean, Harrison Park, another prime example. We've worked on that for 10 years and it's still It doesn't look good. very good and it's a council priority We even have money budgeted towards it, it just takes time to get there. So I don't have a magic wand and we don't have the money to do everything, but it's on the list. And I think the council during the budgeting process really will have to take a hard look at maintenance and prioritize what gets a high level of maintenance. And we may have to prioritize it in different phases. of these get weekly maintenance, these get monthly, these get quarterly, these get biannual, these get once a year and then the rest, like Diane Alper's beautification program, is asked for the neighbors and the community members to help sweep stairs and take on Earth Day projects. Women's Club is an organization that has done a lot of work helping to beautify, too. So it's going to take the entire community to support these efforts, especially during these new years. |
| 02:48:59.32 | Vice Mayor Williams | Mr. Mayor, just as a follow-up to that, I would like to see Public Works bring something back to council that would be a schedule for parks. And, you know, Cypress Ridge is another area, which I think I communicated with you about. but bring us a schedule of what they do and when and make people aware of it so we have an idea of how our how often some of these things are to be done and we can see where the lack of support is. And maybe then community members can step forward and say, we'll help or whatever. We'll at least need to know where we need to put our attention. |
| 02:49:38.81 | Unknown | you |
| 02:49:52.34 | Vice Mayor Williams | Thank you. |
| 02:49:53.59 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Mr. Mayor, I have a question. |
| 02:49:55.20 | Vice Mayor Williams | Thank you. |
| 02:49:55.21 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:49:55.35 | Vice Mayor Williams | Thank you. |
| 02:49:56.09 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | So, Mary, I brought this up earlier in closed session, but for the record, I wanted to confirm that GTE MobileNet and Verizon will not be increasing the size or frequency, and that upgrades and replacements are of, and this is I'm referring to, 2A on 4F, page 9, like-kind equipment, incomparable in dimensions and weight. So I just wanted to confirm that for the record. I mean, the like kind is stated, but what's not stated is that this does not allow for like higher frequencies of ENF or, you know, larger, more antennas. |
| 02:50:33.66 | Mary Wagner | Large rate. If the current amendment agreement in front of you does not change that configuration from what is there today. If they make modifications that require that they go through the planning process, they would have to do that at that point. So there's nothing in this lease that's changing the equipment that exists there today. |
| 02:50:56.32 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Okay, thank you. Just for the record, I just wanted to confirm that. |
| 02:51:03.44 | Unknown | Okay, maybe I'll... Well, |
| 02:51:07.54 | Unknown | I'll say something. It's nice to get the resident participation, but it's not really easy to do. It's easier said than done. Last year, I went up the cable roadway, the stairs there, spent the whole day. Cleaned it up. Settle over about 12, 13 neighbors. Mentioned to him it would be nice that |
| 02:51:29.23 | Unknown | man. |
| 02:51:31.59 | Unknown | they could overlook it. and see when it gets a little messy that they would participate in cleaning it. I went up there and looked at that about two weeks later and no one. has really touched it. And these are people that live up on Prospect, Cable, Roadway, Sausalito Boulevard. You would think they'd have a little pride in their stairs, but Apparently, they wait for the city to do all this. So I think maybe it'd be a nice idea that we kind of reach out to the residents and remind them about the stairs that everybody really cares about. and maybe have some participation from them and I'd be willing to go back up there and spend the day to lead this, that people start taking an investment in what's around them, not just where they live. |
| 02:52:27.95 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | . |
| 02:52:29.27 | Councilmember Weiner | Well, maybe one thing to consider, and I don't know if this causes contract problems with the, is, you know, we are going to be getting more per month. in rent from this one occupant. I think the problem in general with the city is a landlord, and it's not any different than most landlords. They look at these income streams, and a lot of people, not you, as a landlord, forget you have to take money and put them back into things as part of the cost of ownership. |
| 02:52:54.41 | Rhett | Income. |
| 02:53:05.56 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. And so what we, as a city, I've noticed tend to overlook sometimes is that we have to take money out of these leases, whether it's MLK, whether it's this particular site and put money back into it. And maybe some of this increased rent from Verizon. can be set aside because it's not in the budget yet for next year. And it's a meaningful amount and we should do the same thing with the other occupants of that or lessees up there and put a bid out for a maintenance contract just on that facility for others. Just once a month kind of stop by, clean it up, get the vines under control, pick up the trash, something. It doesn't have to be like somebody's front yard, but it needs to be adequately maintained and see how that goes. And if it's something that, once we get an idea of... |
| 02:53:48.27 | Chuck Donald | All right. |
| 02:53:57.35 | Councilmember Weiner | How much work is involved there? Then we can decide whether to bring it in-house, just leave it out as an outsourced thing and take care of it. That may be an idea that would work here, particularly since you don't have these guys are all going to be pointing at each other saying, well, you should clean it up. You should clean it up because there's four or five lessees up there, including the city. So maybe that's an idea to consider. But, you know, I think he is somewhat correct. Not somewhat. That's reminding me in this particular site, over all the least is that you have to I don't know the truth of this statement, but every one of these hearings I sat through for this particular site, and Verizon was not one of them, I got to beam my thing down the tunnel. That's why I got to be in that location. So I can't say whether moving them down the lot towards Montemar will not enable them to do that because of the grade or the sight line or whatever, because they don't want the drop calls when you go through the tunnel. |
| 02:54:50.42 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:54:57.50 | Councilmember Weiner | So it may be, even though it's another bite of the apple, it may piss them off, but I don't think they have anywhere else to go. maybe you want to give yourself an out here in case you can't relocate them and adequately meet there. Um, their sight lines or make them prove that they could locate somewhere at this point in time on the lot. If they are, I don't know if they've changed or in what the last time they changed this equipment was to go from 3G to the LTE stuff, but I imagine they're somewhere in that process on that particular antenna, and maybe in that study you can see, you know, they can tell you where they can sit over there in the corner and beam down that thing, and then you don't have to put that clause in here. Maybe you know you can actually execute that. So, you know, |
| 02:55:31.62 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:55:32.56 | Chief Tejada | Uh, |
| 02:55:48.97 | Councilmember Weiner | sort of one of those non-kicking the can down the road things. You could just leave it as is and let somebody else deal with it. one year, two years, five years, ten years from now. Or you could see if we can get our arms around it now and put it to bed. |
| 02:56:01.59 | Mayor | Right. At the risk of opening Pandora's box, Mary, how which may already be open. How would they feel? They need this site, they definitely need this site. What if we went back to them and said, It's a five-year deal with a five-year option. and That's it. I mean, we'll talk to you at the end of 10 years. So at least shorten the term. And then if we go to the clause that says they're responsible for maintaining the premises, and we beef that up a little bit, If we had all three tenants, I know you're going to hate this, but negotiating leases from the diocese is terrible. All three tenants paid $100 a month toward maintenance or something, in addition to keeping their premises, grounds and maintenance. And I say, because there's nobody up there, and we're not interested in having these people enjoy the premises and just let it go into the toilet. At least you have $300 a month you could hire. We could literally hire an outside contractor to come in and mow the grass and clean it up and keep the trash away probably once a week for that price. What about that? |
| 02:57:30.74 | Mary Wagner | I mean, it's at the council's discretion on how you want us to go back to the table with Verizon I anticipate significant pushback from them because they've run their business plan on this number. |
| 02:57:42.48 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:57:42.72 | Mary Wagner | and they're probably going to ask for a rent reduction. And I think that that's, you know, your administrative services director negotiated this lease based upon current |
| 02:57:51.02 | Mayor | I used to. |
| 02:57:52.41 | Mary Wagner | Um, Thank you. |
| 02:57:53.13 | Mayor | Yeah. |
| 02:57:53.38 | Mary Wagner | expectations of the rental stream and it's a good |
| 02:57:54.57 | Mayor | THE REST OF THE REST OF THE Well, then I agree with Jonathan, because as a landlord, I would take And if I get $100,000 on my property, Part of the $100,000 actually keeps the property up. Maybe we just have to carve out in the budget a fee for keeping up that property in a reasonable thing so it doesn't look like an eyesore over time. Because it is, like Chuck said, part of the entrance to the city. |
| 02:58:17.80 | Mary Wagner | Pardon. |
| 02:58:19.86 | Mayor | so |
| 02:58:20.72 | Mary Wagner | And with respect to the issue that Ms. Nichols raised about the wireless regulations of vegetation and landscaping, it's very specific on vegetation and landscaping that's required as part of the permitting process to shield equipment. We can certainly go back and look at their CUPs, whatever exists for these existing tenants to see if there were any |
| 02:58:33.06 | Unknown | Right. |
| 02:58:33.33 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:58:41.63 | Mary Wagner | landscape installment requirements. I'm not aware of any, but I didn't look at that issue. And if they are, they're required to maintain those specific Um, items of vegetation and landscaping. |
| 02:58:53.22 | Mayor | And on the 10-year lease, what do you think they'd do? |
| 02:58:56.24 | Mary Wagner | I think they're going to push back on the rent. I won't know until I talk to them. They say lower rent. |
| 02:59:00.97 | Mayor | Um, |
| 02:59:01.37 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 02:59:01.41 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 02:59:01.78 | Unknown | No. |
| 02:59:02.25 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Mr. Mayor? |
| 02:59:02.47 | Mayor | to me. |
| 02:59:02.76 | Unknown | you |
| 02:59:03.60 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | yeah I speak So I liked Council Member Leon's idea regarding setting a partial of the rental funds aside to allocate it to a special maintenance fund. And to kind of do that on a trial for a year and see what the costs are. and because I think we have complete consensus here that something has to happen because it's in very... trial for a year and see what the costs are. Because I think we have complete consensus here that something has to happen because it's in very poor shape and it's not getting better. And here's an opportunity. So if council member wants to make a motion on that, I'll second it. |
| 02:59:43.80 | Unknown | I mean, to form |
| 02:59:44.20 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:59:44.24 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | I mean, to formally set some funds aside for maintenance. |
| 02:59:45.16 | Unknown | Oh. |
| 02:59:50.31 | Unknown | Maybe we ought to give them an option that they could choose five years or if they choose 10 or 15 then a maintenance clause kicks in on something like that. And that way there, they're looking to say, why should we fool around with five? Let's go to the 15 or something and build that in, maybe. and maybe that's feasible, I don't know, but I'm sure they want it as long as they can get it. And the longer that lease is, then we should add these add-ons to it. with that stipulation. If you only want five years, then this is what you get for five. If you go to 10 or 15, then we're willing to do that. |
| 03:00:30.24 | Mayor | This is where I become snidely whiplash and pull out my... |
| 03:00:32.90 | Unknown | Hello. |
| 03:00:34.03 | Unknown | my mustache. |
| 03:00:34.84 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:00:34.91 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:00:34.94 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:00:34.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:00:34.98 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:00:35.03 | Unknown | But it's our... I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor. If the council wants to really... |
| 03:00:40.02 | Mary Wagner | give us negotiation discussions and strategies, we should do that in closed session. |
| 03:00:41.71 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:00:41.76 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:00:45.22 | Unknown | English. |
| 03:00:45.83 | Mary Wagner | And we've talked about this twice in closed session. That's why we didn't agendize it for closed session tonight. |
| 03:00:45.85 | Unknown | . |
| 03:00:46.03 | Mayor | And we've talked about it. |
| 03:00:46.39 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:00:51.13 | Mayor | I hear your frustration. Oh. |
| 03:00:53.74 | Mary Wagner | No, it's not frustration. I just don't want it to have that level of discussion. |
| 03:00:56.48 | Unknown | Thank you. Why don't we bring this to closed session next time? We'll clean it up, put in what we want, and go back to them, |
| 03:00:59.80 | Mary Wagner | Yeah. |
| 03:00:59.82 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 03:01:00.02 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 03:01:00.07 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:01:00.12 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 03:01:00.14 | Mayor | And... |
| 03:01:00.36 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | No. |
| 03:01:00.56 | Mayor | Thank you. Are they figuratively? |
| 03:01:03.95 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Mr. Mayor, may I comment on that? So I hear what you're saying with respect to kind of giving the renter the, you know, building that in, but I also see the value of just keeping the rent and then taking a portion of that profit and managing that ourselves. Um, |
| 03:01:31.34 | Mayor | Well, there's several items. I think Mary's point is well made. This is, well, it belongs in the back room to negotiating and bring out. I'll make a motion to continue this item to date uncertain. |
| 03:01:36.50 | Councilmember Weiner | I'll make a motion to continue this item to date uncertain and leave it up to staff to bring it back. I just think this is a good opportunity to kind of... Set a precedent. |
| 03:01:47.42 | Mayor | I'll second. It's complicated. I will second. Okay. All in favor? Aye. |
| 03:01:49.04 | Unknown | I'll second it. |
| 03:01:50.83 | Councilmember Weiner | I know. |
| 03:01:50.90 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:01:52.67 | Unknown | . Aye. Aye. Okay. |
| 03:01:55.74 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:01:56.06 | Unknown | I think. . Thank you. |
| 03:01:56.72 | Mayor | The next. Mm-hmm. Thank you. I'm sorry. Thank you. |
| 03:02:00.97 | Debbie (City Clerk) | I was hearing a few things on that motion. Did you say today? Thank you. Yeah. You did say Dave Anderson. |
| 03:02:06.68 | Mayor | Yes. And I second. But that means you can pick the date, and we can pick it. |
| 03:02:11.07 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Yeah. Yeah. I guess I was hearing you should like, yeah. |
| 03:02:13.92 | Mayor | Okay, so... That brings us to item 6C, which is receiving false status report for the 2011-12 Priority Project List of Historical Resources. Sorry to keep you guys here so long. |
| 03:02:30.62 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:02:30.66 | Heidi | Good evening, Mayor Kelly, members of the City Council. My presentation needs to pop up and then I will begin. |
| 03:02:31.85 | Unknown | even. |
| 03:02:32.18 | Mayor | and we're going to have a Thank you. |
| 03:02:39.68 | Heidi | So as you know, you've identified that 20% of our priorities, or approximately 25% of our priorities, address the preservation of historic resources, which means that staff has been really busy trying to aid and facilitate the preservation of our resources while still maintaining our current planning workload. So I'm just going to go through the top five projects and give you kind of a status update similar to what was in your staff report. So rank number six is our historic preservation regulations. The status of this project is that it's currently ongoing and that $30,000 has been allocated. towards it. In May of last year, a request for a proposal in the scope of work was solicited to over 10 consultants who have, or who are qualified to prepare historic regulations. And out of those proposals that were sent out, or requests for proposals that were sent out, city only received two responses, which is pretty insufficient and poor. So staff decided to hold back, re-solicit it, but in the meantime, the silver lining associated with that is that the city did become a certified local government, and we do have contractual obligations with the State Historic Preservation Office. for that office to review. any amendments to our current regulations. So we sent the RFP over to SHPO and SHPO made comments, substantive comments, that actually would have affected any. a proposal that the city would have received, which could have led to additional costs. So it was actually good that we held off on sending that out. We have amended the RFP to include those comments from SHPO, and we're ready to send it out. We're hoping to send it out by mid-February. and hire a consultant shortly thereafter. |
| 03:04:35.43 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:04:36.78 | Heidi | Ranked number nine on the priority list would be the historic present, Historic Design Guidelines, there's a little typo up there. So the status of that project is that it's completed, yay! The City Council approved the Design Guidelines at your October 4th meeting in 2011. At that time, you also approved a zoning text amendment to allow modification to our design |
| 03:04:49.66 | Unknown | The city council |
| 03:05:02.99 | Heidi | design review permit findings. And so what that has done is it allows the Planning Commission and or the City Council to utilize the guidelines in terms of making requisite findings to approve a project. Since the ordinance and the guidelines have gone into effect, the Planning Commission has used the guidelines for four projects within our Downtown Historic Overlay zoning district, which is great, so we're using them. And those guidelines can be accessed on our website. The next project would be priority number 11, which is our Marinship Inventory and Context Statements. The status of this project is that it's completed and it was completed under budget. We saved approximately $5,000, the City Council allocated $30,000 to complete that project. As you recall, back in July of 2011, Knappen for a plank presented before you the findings of their historic context statement and their inventory. And they identified that there are resources that still remain within the marineship. So, What has happened with the context statement and the inventory forms is that as part of the inventory, the consultant prepared these DPR 523 forms. And what those forms are basically identifies what the resource is, whether or not it's historically significant, and what its status would be. And so since we had a little extra money based on our contract with the consultant. We had them submit those inventory and DPR 524 forms to the State Historic Preservation Office and they've been filed with the California Historical Resources Inventory System. What that is, is Essentially, SHPO controls 11 inventory sites throughout California, and our inventory site that covers Marin County is the Northwest Information Center at Sonoma State. The benefit of the filing of the DPR forms is that whenever there's a discretionary project submitted to the city, Um, it basically creates kind of a red flag in terms of the CEQA or California Environmental Quality Act review process. So if it's identified on those DPR forms that a project is eligible for either the state or national register, automatically CEQA applies and we can't use a categorical exemption unless the project is consistent with the Secretary of the Interior Standards. So it's definitely an added layer of protection that we have. The next priority would be priority number 16, which is the downtown historic preservation overlay district and the national register nomination. And the status of this project is that it is currently ongoing and that the city council has allocated $15,000 to prepare this work. Staff is in the process of preparing the RFP and scope of work. We've been working with the State Historic Preservation Office in terms of what the content of that RFP should contain. As soon as it's completed, we will send it back to SHPO for their review and then hopefully send this out. Included in that scope of work would be additional responsibilities for the consultant to prepare informational notices to the 72 property owners within the current downtown historic overlay zoning district and also public workshops so we can educate, inform, and answer any questions that those property owners may have regarding what it actually means to have a national registered district. So the RFP is anticipated to be released in mid-April, and we're hoping to select a consultant by mid-May. |
| 03:08:49.75 | Heidi | Ranked number 18 is our Marinship Historic District. So we'll go back to the presentation that Knapp and Verplank gave to the City Council back in July. And as part of that presentation, Thank you. the report identified that there is a small cluster of buildings within the Marin ship that could make up a historic district. Unfortunately, based on the National and State Register um, requirements that's based on the National Historic Preservation Act of 1966. It was determined that the small cluster would not be eligible for the National Register, it may be eligible for the state register based on the rareness of this type of industrial property But it definitely could be eligible for our local register because we have less criteria that would allow us to create this district. So in anticipation of this project, staff just queried a couple property owners within this cluster. just kind of ask them what their thoughts would be regarding the creation of a historic district. And based on our requirements identified in our zoning ordinance, 51 percent of these property owners have to agree to the creation of the district |
| 03:09:55.67 | Unknown | I wish I had a good question. |
| 03:10:06.40 | Heidi | and it was preliminarily shown that there would be no support for the creation of a district. However, staff was thinking the best way to approach this at this point in time is to try to defer this project, focus our time on the historic preservation regulations, identify what these property owners' concerns might be with regards to procedural requirements for the treatment of their properties, see if we can implement or include additional incentives that might dangled carrots in front of them that would make supporting a district beneficial to them. So we're really hoping to include these property owners in that process and, again, try to educate and encourage property owners to agree to a local district. But in the meantime, in order to protect these resources, As I stated, previously we have filed the DPR forms with the state, so that adds one layer of protection, but our zoning ordinance also allows us to nominate these properties for our local register. Again, we have less criteria than the state or the national register. So it does include a three-part public hearing process that would start with the Historic Landmarks Board, And the Planning Commission and ultimately the City Council who would be acting as the final decision maker on this. again, need the consent of the property owners to list them And there are certain findings that need to be achieved but it's a good way to help protect these properties in the meantime. Unfortunately we can't capture those buildings that were identified as not being contributing buildings but there are a handful that we can try to capture. And what that would speak to is in terms of this small little cluster. one of those buildings is eligible for the National Register. And I believe there are three properties that are not in the remainder of the properties could be identified for our local registrar. So with that, I will conclude my presentation and answer any questions you may have. Thank you. |
| 03:12:19.10 | Vice Mayor Williams | Mr. Mayor. |
| 03:12:19.71 | Heidi | Thank you. |
| 03:12:19.75 | Vice Mayor Williams | you |
| 03:12:19.83 | Heidi | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:12:19.97 | Vice Mayor Williams | Thank you. |
| 03:12:20.62 | Heidi | Thank you. |
| 03:12:20.64 | Vice Mayor Williams | Heidi, thank you. That's quite an accomplishment that the department's made on all these projects. Just one question regarding the Marinship historic buildings and protecting them. The process you mentioned was starting with the Landmarks Board going through the Planning Commission and coming to the City Council. When do you envision that starting and what would you think might be the timeline? |
| 03:12:22.30 | Heidi | Thank you. |
| 03:12:53.46 | Heidi | that project? For the local nominations? Yes. We're hoping to start at the Historic Landmarks Board level in mid-April. And we do have a lot of competing projects, but the benefit to this process is that we already have the DPR forms that are already completed. So it would only take staff's time to prepare a staff report, attend the Historic Landmarks Board meeting. |
| 03:12:55.61 | Vice Mayor Williams | Yes. |
| 03:13:02.41 | Unknown | Um, |
| 03:13:11.72 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:13:15.40 | Heidi | And that's it. Thank you. |
| 03:13:16.57 | Vice Mayor Williams | Good. So mid-April? Mid-April. Great. Okay. Thank you. |
| 03:13:22.42 | Mayor | Any comments? I have a question. Is it a model on the register? |
| 03:13:28.51 | Heidi | The Bay model is not on the register, and it was actually identified. The status code that the state gave it, or that the consultant gave it for the state, was a 6Z, which means it doesn't have any more integrity to it. |
| 03:13:39.28 | Unknown | Cheers. |
| 03:13:40.46 | Heidi | So unfortunately, it's not eligible for the state or national, but if the city wanted to make findings to put it on our local register, we could. And what that means is that any exterior modif- once a property is listed as a local register, it just means any exterior modifications that building is required to secure a designer view permit, which, you know, puts it into a discretionary realm, and the planning commission would be the decision maker unless it gets appealed to the city council. |
| 03:14:09.47 | Mayor | Well, I think they'd be exempt because the government's exempted. In theory, yes. Yeah, in theory. But what it would do is if the government ever decided to dispose of that property, then it would already be listed. And so let's say a private citizen bought it from a government sale. Right. Then it would be protected and you would have already done it. |
| 03:14:11.90 | Heidi | as the government's example. In theory, yes. |
| 03:14:26.34 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:14:26.36 | Heidi | Right. |
| 03:14:27.25 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:14:27.32 | Heidi | Thank you. Yeah, it depends on how the Section 106 process would go for that building. But just, again, backtracking in general for any other non-governmental property. |
| 03:14:35.32 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:14:35.37 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 03:14:36.65 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:14:40.23 | Heidi | Mr. |
| 03:14:40.35 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Mr. Mayor? |
| 03:14:40.99 | Heidi | Thank you. |
| 03:14:41.02 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:14:41.14 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | you So Heidi, if we were to go forward with the local nomination process for the Marinship Historic District, what kind of – does that – you implied that there was kind of a heightened level of protection that would be in play because they were, it was just in the nomination process. Did I read that correctly? |
| 03:15:06.03 | Heidi | What it does is it, again, just puts an extra layer of review related to any modification to that property as it relates to the exterior. |
| 03:15:16.14 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Does that help us? And Mr. Mayor, follow up question? Does that help us with the state at all, too, the fact that it's been nominated for a local register? |
| 03:15:27.35 | Heidi | It doesn't. No. It's just a preservation tool. Okay. |
| 03:15:28.44 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Yeah, okay. |
| 03:15:29.61 | Mayor | Bye. |
| 03:15:32.48 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. Okay, more questions? Heidi, I'm just wondering if you're |
| 03:15:34.53 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:15:34.58 | Heidi | question. |
| 03:15:38.79 | Councilmember Weiner | A couple things. So one with the district concept. I understand the state regulations of 51%. Our zoning ordinance just mimics that. |
| 03:15:45.35 | Unknown | I understand. |
| 03:15:52.10 | Councilmember Weiner | So we should consider a tax amendment to our own zoning ordinance for that. There's no reason we have to comply with the state unless there are legal reasons we have to comply with the state. You're never going to get 50, 100% of these knuckleheads to line up and say they're going to let you form a historic district membership. So you can spend all the money you want. So we should consider that. |
| 03:16:05.20 | Unknown | Go. |
| 03:16:10.70 | Councilmember Weiner | Um... You know, you'll get some pushback on that, but, you know, we should have a hearing and consider that, certainly. That's not directed towards you, obviously. But I just wanted to make sure that was clear, understood that we could do it ourselves and it's up to, you know, the public here to change it. |
| 03:16:19.27 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:16:25.34 | Mayor | public. |
| 03:16:27.34 | Councilmember Weiner | Yeah. |
| 03:16:27.61 | Heidi | Yeah, and that will actually be addressed through our Historic Preservation Regulations update. Right, right. So we're going to be looking at that entire chapter of the zoning ordinance. |
| 03:16:32.55 | Councilmember Weiner | Right. RIGHT. So my question with that was, I know we've been sitting on that one for a while, as part of that because it's just not a real super meaty project. You know, sometimes you have to bundle these things together to get consultants interested. It's a meaningful amount of money, but it's not going to keep somebody busy for a long enough period of time. Given that... We haven't spent... I'm wondering if we could bundle a couple of these into one RFP rather than set separate RFPs out on the downtown historic overlay district national register red nomination and historic preservation regulations implementation phase, if there's a way to bundle that and bundle them all into one RFP and it creates a little bit more of a bigger animal to administer, but it makes it more attractive to the consulting firm because they keep my people busy longer if I'm a consulting firm. So I'm wondering if that's something we could consider And given that we're coming up to Does that make any sense from your experience with these consultants? |
| 03:17:45.57 | Heidi | It does. One thing though is that there are certain consultants that are qualified to do some things better than others. And so a person that may be able to facilitate a nomination |
| 03:17:52.98 | Unknown | I'm impressed. Thank you. |
| 03:17:57.50 | Heidi | National Register nomination may not be the best person to do a historic regulations update. But what we could do is we could try to bundle it. |
| 03:18:02.60 | Unknown | Right. |
| 03:18:06.19 | Heidi | send it out, see what we get, and go from there. |
| 03:18:10.16 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:18:11.32 | Heidi | if that's the right. |
| 03:18:12.11 | Councilmember Weiner | that's that's just like it is something to Thank you. to do. OK. That was my question. |
| 03:18:20.03 | Mayor | Public comment, would someone from the public like to address this item? |
| 03:18:33.44 | Vicki Nichols | I'm going to speak as an HOB member, Vicki Nichols. I would appreciate this update. And I also want to say again, and I think I can speak for all the HLB, that we all appreciate the council supporting all the efforts to do all this work. and giving us the money to do it. And I'm concerned about we don't want to lose that money because the budget hearings are coming up. So as soon as this can... get some commitment through the RFP process that this work can start. We like to hold on that money that you already commit the money you've already given us. |
| 03:19:04.58 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:19:04.71 | Mayor | to beat on them. Thank you. |
| 03:19:06.00 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 03:19:06.50 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:19:06.52 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:19:06.60 | Councilmember Weiner | I'm not going to beat on. |
| 03:19:06.97 | Mayor | you. |
| 03:19:07.02 | Vicki Nichols | We don't. |
| 03:19:07.36 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:19:07.48 | Councilmember Weiner | Well, that's a good question. So my understanding from the past budget processes has been if you're allocating it to a project that we haven't canceled, those allocations carry forward if that's, yeah. |
| 03:19:07.65 | Mayor | Well, that's... |
| 03:19:20.32 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:19:23.56 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:19:23.78 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. if the council agrees |
| 03:19:27.06 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:19:27.07 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:19:27.17 | Councilmember Weiner | All right. Well, I think so, okay, we'll get to that. |
| 03:19:32.07 | Adam Politzer | . |
| 03:19:32.30 | Councilmember Weiner | Any more public comment statement? I hear you. |
| 03:19:35.92 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:19:36.03 | Mayor | THE END OF |
| 03:19:36.17 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, let me just clarify that. Staff carries that over, but if directed by the council to do something else. |
| 03:19:36.22 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:19:36.50 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:19:36.56 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:19:36.59 | Mayor | I mean, no. |
| 03:19:36.93 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:19:37.05 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:19:40.54 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:19:42.24 | Mayor | Right. Let's say we decide not to do it for some reason. Okay, bring it back up here. Does anybody want to say anything else about this? All right, this is information only, no action required, and that brings us to item 6. No, I didn't want to say I think. |
| 03:19:54.39 | Councilmember Weiner | I did want to say I think we should, I would like to vote now so that when it gets to the budget process that we carry over the monies that are allocated in these One, two, three, four, five. Is there any budget allocated that hasn't been spent? I'm making the motion. I'm making the motion. No. That we carry them forward into fiscal year 2012-2013. |
| 03:20:07.03 | Unknown | Thank you. . |
| 03:20:11.18 | Unknown | I just want to know. |
| 03:20:16.85 | Rhett | Thank you. |
| 03:20:17.04 | Mayor | that. |
| 03:20:22.10 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 03:20:22.14 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Wait a second. |
| 03:20:22.52 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 03:20:23.28 | Mayor | All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Seeing none, we move on to item 16, introduction of iPads. |
| 03:20:24.08 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Aye. |
| 03:20:24.68 | Vice Mayor Williams | Bye. |
| 03:20:24.70 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | All right. |
| 03:20:31.48 | Mayor | Thanks Heidi. |
| 03:20:33.09 | Vice Mayor Williams | Yeah, thank you. |
| 03:20:33.31 | Mayor | Yeah, thank you. Goodbye, Heidi. |
| 03:20:36.19 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:20:36.31 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:20:36.33 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:20:36.53 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:20:36.56 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:20:36.61 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:20:36.97 | Unknown | . |
| 03:20:42.88 | Rhett | Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, good evening. |
| 03:20:49.30 | Rhett | Why do I always have to follow the brilliant people? Psst. |
| 03:20:53.74 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:20:57.12 | Mayor | like that. |
| 03:20:59.67 | Unknown | So I wanted to... That looks like upstairs. Oh my. |
| 03:20:59.77 | Rhett | So I wanted to... |
| 03:21:01.84 | Unknown | That looks like upstairs. |
| 03:21:08.10 | Rhett | I've actually been trying to clean my office. I don't know if you've noticed. But anyway, I wanted to start introducing this, kind of recapping and going over some things that I'm sure you all remember from the budget process as why we're doing this, They're cool toys and obviously very sexy, We're actually doing this to solve some real problems. The first of which is financial. The city spends approximately $4,000 a year in paper, toner, printer maintenance, energy, staff time, just to produce your packets. And that's roughly the same cost of buying each of you an iPad 2 one time. Again, along with why go paperless? Cutting down trees is just the beginning of it, but milling paper, the entire process of creating the paper, bleaching the paper, getting it to you. is also toxic. And even recycled paper ultimately winds up as landfill, or most of it, and landfill becomes methane, which as we know is a greenhouse gas. So the question then is, are iPads really greener? Every five pound blank ream of paper, this is before we smear it with carbon and fuse it and do all of that to it, costs 30 pounds of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. |
| 03:22:27.48 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:22:28.99 | Rhett | or 13.65 kilograms. The iPad isn't perfect, it's 105 kilograms, but still the return on investment is about 15 meetings. and the return on investment for the finances. is about a year or around 22 meetings. Apple is already taking steps to minimize the damage that these will leave. The application that we will be using to get you your paperless packets is iLegislate from Granicus. Now Granicus, as you know and the people at home might know, is the tool that we use to not only present our agendas online but to stream the meetings over video or over the Internet. iGranicas, iLegislate allows you to review agendas, make notes, look at staff reports, even review a past meeting and watch the video of the past meeting navigating I'm trying to get the laser to work, but, oh, there we go. It's a little bit of work. |
| 03:23:33.48 | Unknown | Yeah. Thank you. |
| 03:23:35.86 | Rhett | Got it. But you can actually navigate the meeting just like the people at home do. And you can do it all in the palm of your hand at your convenience. So with that, I'd like to give you your iPads. Thank you. Is that okay? |
| 03:23:51.55 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:23:51.60 | Councilmember Weiner | Okay. |
| 03:23:51.91 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:23:52.72 | Councilmember Weiner | And a question on this item. iPad 2. iPad 2s. I talked to Rhett briefly about this. So Mary, what is the legal |
| 03:23:52.99 | Unknown | And a question. |
| 03:23:54.39 | Unknown | item. |
| 03:23:56.38 | Rhett | Or iPad 2s. |
| 03:24:07.11 | Councilmember Weiner | the stuff that will live on this device. because it's a city-owned piece of property. is that public information. |
| 03:24:21.54 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 03:24:21.56 | Unknown | Yes. Thank you. |
| 03:24:22.30 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:24:22.33 | Unknown | So. |
| 03:24:22.42 | Councilmember Weiner | Okay. And if we... used, bought her own device. And you can download the Granicus reading software from Granicus. Would that be the same? |
| 03:24:37.39 | Mary Wagner | The... the use of a device that you purchase personally for city business the city business portion of it most likely is publicly accessible information, email it to the extent that it's a public record, Other documents may be subject to the Public Records Act. |
| 03:24:55.26 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Um, Mr. Mayor? |
| 03:24:56.59 | Mary Wagner | Similar to current email usage and other usage of other city property. Excuse me, Councilmember Feiffer. |
| 03:25:03.24 | Mayor | Are you ready for questions? |
| 03:25:03.93 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:25:04.83 | Rhett | I'm ready for questions whenever you like. We can do that at the end or now. |
| 03:25:08.05 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | So, Brett, I had talked to you earlier in the week about iArticulate in the software, and you said that if we wanted to purchase a software kind of overlay to do editing and highlight sections that we could do so and then do that. So, I think that's a good question. provide the receipt to the city, is that correct? |
| 03:25:35.69 | Rhett | Well, that was the policy that we kind of hammered out between us was being, because I carry a city-assigned iPad as well. |
| 03:25:38.58 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Okay. |
| 03:25:45.55 | Rhett | Some of the applications are appropriate to the job, and some of them are words with friends. So, which I would never expect the city to pay for. So the policy we came up with is that for any city employee who carries a city assigned iPad, that if we want to purchase those applications that we would use in the function of our job, like iAnnotate or Pages or any of the other productivity applications out there, that we could just submit it to for reimbursement. Because I can't roll it out to you like I could with a Windows machine or something. |
| 03:26:06.64 | Councilmember Weiner | that we're going to do. |
| 03:26:06.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:26:07.13 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:26:20.39 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:26:20.41 | Adam Politzer | I'm not sure. |
| 03:26:20.73 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 03:26:20.76 | Adam Politzer | I don't know. you |
| 03:26:22.03 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Follow-up question. |
| 03:26:22.85 | Adam Politzer | I can just address that and may also answer your potential follow-up question of you or another council member. There will have to be some discretion. Obviously, there are, you know, a boatload of apps and software that, you know, |
| 03:26:25.49 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Yeah. |
| 03:26:42.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:26:42.90 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:26:43.00 | Unknown | you |
| 03:26:43.21 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:26:43.68 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. any department would have value to. So obviously we don't have an endless stream of money. So again, during the budget process, we would ask the council to look at an allowance and then each council member would have to live within that allowance for things that they felt would help the council members do their jobs better. That's where it starts getting tricky, obviously. |
| 03:27:10.09 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Mm-hmm. So, Mr. Mayor, I had a follow-up question on that, that confirmation, because the reason I contacted Red about this was because I'm working in an e-copy You know, you still, as a council member, want to highlight and write questions and notes and things. So my other question was, and I thought about this later, read about other councils making the transition to iPads, and one council took a year because they were still going back to paper. If we individually wanted to print one section or whatever, like a graphical map or something like this, would we go through the city and say, hey, could you print agenda F? Or would we print that on our own and give you the receipt? Or am I... Yeah. |
| 03:28:09.15 | Adam Politzer | I think during the transition, absolutely. And also for the public to make sure that they have access to the information that's online. And I think we already do that for some folks that just aren't technically able to navigate what's on the website today. But eventually for us to achieve the cost savings that we are estimating are there, we would then expect council members or regular folks that don't have special needs in our public to print that on their own dime. |
| 03:28:43.88 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Mr. Mayor, a question? So, Mary, it's my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong, with the Brown Act, do we have any requirements where, you know, if someone asks for a paper-bound copy of agenda items that we need to supply that to them? |
| 03:29:06.14 | Mary Wagner | We need to supply the public with access to the information. So if there's access on the city's website and somebody isn't able to access that because they don't own a computer, they could be provided access through the library. or paper copies could be provided in the library. You're not required to provide every member of the public with a paper copy of the agenda. they are allowed to come and inspect it and pay for a copy of their own on their own. |
| 03:29:34.34 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 03:29:34.37 | Mary Wagner | And I think we currently charge 25 cents a page for copying costs. |
| 03:29:37.66 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | I'm talking. Thank you, Mary. I have a couple more questions, but I'll wait. |
| 03:29:45.52 | Vice Mayor Williams | What is the implementation plan? I mean, when do we begin this? I'm kind of in the dark. I know we're getting iPads, but are we getting iPads for the next meeting. Is there a transition where we get both the paper and the iPads? Or how is this going to work? |
| 03:30:00.48 | Rhett | Is there a train? |
| 03:30:04.20 | Rhett | Seriously. Well, I wanted to bring you your iPads and show you a little bit about how Granicus works, and maybe we can work out how the implementation goes after that. |
| 03:30:17.03 | Vice Mayor Williams | Okay. |
| 03:30:20.98 | Vice Mayor Williams | Yes. |
| 03:30:21.20 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:30:21.26 | Vice Mayor Williams | Thank you. |
| 03:30:21.30 | Mayor | I think this is a good thing. |
| 03:30:22.18 | Vice Mayor Williams | This is the gift you would want to open. |
| 03:30:22.58 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:30:24.00 | Unknown | . |
| 03:30:24.05 | Vice Mayor Williams | Yeah. |
| 03:30:24.49 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:30:24.52 | Vice Mayor Williams | Thank you. you |
| 03:30:24.98 | Mayor | Yeah. you |
| 03:30:25.18 | Unknown | I don't want to go. |
| 03:30:25.26 | Mayor | I don't know. |
| 03:30:27.17 | Unknown | I think I'll leave it in this. |
| 03:30:34.68 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 03:30:36.52 | Unknown | Hey, it's taking me a month now to figure out this 4S. How am I gonna... Somebody's leader almost exactly the same. |
| 03:30:37.15 | Mayor | Thank you. Yeah. But... you Batman. |
| 03:30:41.63 | Mayor | Somebody's flavor almost exactly the same. Somebody ate my chocolate. |
| 03:30:45.89 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:30:45.90 | Councilmember Weiner | . Thank you. . So I think it's an important question for Rhett. In terms of you mentioned the carbon footprint kind of impacts, but just from a cost perspective, you know, so the public doesn't get an idea that these are just toys, which for many people these iPads are, the cost of these versus the cost of the reams of paper and the staff time to make the copies of the re, you know, these, and that somebody would take it out, most of the time her, to various people's, to drop off the packets. From that point of view, have we looked at that? |
| 03:30:50.63 | Mayor | No. |
| 03:31:22.98 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:31:23.06 | Rhett | The cost versus the paper versus – well, just getting the packet to you, assuming – not counting the gas it takes you to get to City Hall, it's about $4,000 a year to produce the packets. It's actually a little bit more than that. It's a little bit less than that for the iPads themselves. There is a recurring data fee that comes out to about $1,500 a year. So basically it takes $4,000 worth spending every year and takes it down to $1,500. |
| 03:31:23.08 | Councilmember Weiner | I'm not sure. |
| 03:31:33.29 | Unknown | you |
| 03:31:56.59 | Rhett | It's not obviously free, but certainly not. |
| 03:31:59.11 | Adam Politzer | Can I just ask that the council hold their questions? Because I think we kind of got stopped in the middle of the presentation, but I believe Rhett's going to walk you through this and then take all these types of questions. |
| 03:32:05.77 | Unknown | Mmm. Oh. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:32:10.45 | Rhett | I just wanted to give you kind of an overview of Granicus, or excuse me, our legislate itself. But to start with, your iPad is configured to access your private Granicus account. The reason I'm mentioning that it's private is that you can make notes within the app. You may still want to use something like iAnnotate, but it comes with its own note-taking system, and those notes are your notes. |
| 03:32:34.92 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 03:32:34.95 | Rhett | So... It's configured to access the City of Sausalito email and calendar. This becomes your City of Sausalito email device. You're welcome to access it in any other way, but this is the way that we're supporting. It's set up with a City of Sausalito iTunes App Store account so that when you do go and make those purchases, they follow that account. And it's equipped with 2 gigabytes of data per month and Wi-Fi. And the reason I'm mentioning that is 2 gigabytes is probably more than enough for anything you would need to do. But again, these have a |
| 03:32:55.06 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:33:08.89 | Rhett | an entertainment factor as well. And should you want to stream movies or music or do any of that, I'm not encouraging it, I'm just saying. if you wanted to, and I'm not encouraging it, and that's a discussion way above my pay grade. That theoretical situation that I'm seeing from your shaking finger and shaking hand would only happen on Wi-Fi. |
| 03:33:28.48 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:33:28.49 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:33:28.54 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:33:28.56 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:33:28.59 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:33:28.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:33:28.78 | Unknown | you |
| 03:33:32.49 | Rhett | But since we're not going to do that, we'll just move on. |
| 03:33:37.81 | Mayor | What is the iTunes? you |
| 03:33:39.43 | Rhett | Thank you. |
| 03:33:39.63 | Mayor | out for it. |
| 03:33:40.75 | Rhett | It's so that you can buy apps. It's basically the only way to get apps onto it is to the iTunes app store. And I had to create an account for all of you just to register the devices. And so inside your silver envelope is the secret information to use that. |
| 03:33:59.12 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:34:00.64 | Rhett | So if you wanted to follow along, and you don't have to, I've put the productivity apps that I think you might want to use the most on the bottom dock. You can put any apps here that you want. I put iLegislate. |
| 03:34:12.11 | Thomas Georges | to the next one. |
| 03:34:15.17 | Rhett | Safari, which is your web browser, your calendar, your email, and the control panel so that you can switch back and forth to and from Wi-Fi in those circumstances that we won't discuss any further. So if you were to tap I legislate, the first thing you see are your agendas and the controls down below. Now the way to get a new agenda is to click this tiny little button down here that looks like a recycle button. It won't happen automatically. So you'll have to, when you launch it, you have to tap that and you load up a new agenda, if there is a current agenda. |
| 03:34:57.39 | Rhett | And similarly, once you've got your agenda, if you would like to load up all of your attachments at once, you tap this quiet little icon down here that looks a little bit like an inbox or a tray. Now, |
| 03:35:09.49 | Mayor | Is that appearing on here now? Because I don't have that. |
| 03:35:12.55 | Rhett | You don't have it on your... |
| 03:35:13.81 | Mayor | No. |
| 03:35:14.43 | Rhett | you |
| 03:35:14.60 | Unknown | you |
| 03:35:14.65 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:35:14.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:35:14.72 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:35:14.77 | Unknown | you |
| 03:35:14.96 | Mayor | The Pressure on the app. You've got to get in the app first. The President's got to be in the I legislate to do that. The President's got to be in the I legislate to do that. The President's got to be in the I legislate to do that. The President's got to be in the I legislate to do that. The President's got to be in the I legislate to do that. The President's got to be in the I legislate to do that. The President's got to be in the I legislate to do that. The President's got to be in the I legislate to do that. The President's got to be in the I legislate to do that. The President's got to be in the I legislate to do that. The President's got to be in the I legislate to do that. The President's got to be in the I legislate to do that. The President's got to be in the I legislate to do that. The President's got to be in the I legislate to do that. The President's got to be in the I legislate to do that. The President's got to be in the I legislate to do that. The President's got to be in the I legislate. The President's got to be in the I legislate. The President's got to be in the I legislate. The President's got to be in the I legislate. The President's got to be in the I legislate. The President's got to be in the I legislate. The President's got to be in the I legislate. The President's got to be in the I legislate to do that. The President's got to be in the I legislate to do that. Thank you. |
| 03:35:14.98 | Unknown | in the app if you go to get |
| 03:35:18.79 | Rhett | You do. You do. I'm sorry. This is – yeah. |
| 03:35:22.50 | Unknown | Can I make a suggestion already? You meet with each person individually. |
| 03:35:22.52 | Mayor | Can I make a suggestion already? |
| 03:35:27.41 | Rhett | . |
| 03:35:27.46 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:35:27.56 | Rhett | I was actually going to suggest that after. |
| 03:35:28.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:35:28.14 | Unknown | I was actually going to say, |
| 03:35:29.33 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:35:29.35 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:35:29.37 | Unknown | Bye. Thank you. |
| 03:35:30.18 | Unknown | option. |
| 03:35:30.52 | Unknown | You're all nice. I... |
| 03:35:33.22 | Unknown | I'll volunteer to show them how. |
| 03:35:34.79 | Unknown | Brett, I think they're already there. That's why it's going to be. |
| 03:35:39.04 | Mayor | Yeah. |
| 03:35:39.16 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:35:39.31 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:35:39.33 | Unknown | This will go. |
| 03:35:39.88 | Mayor | No! Okay, okay, come on, guys. |
| 03:35:45.25 | Unknown | Here we go. Yeah. Thank you. |
| 03:35:46.78 | Rhett | Thank you. |
| 03:35:46.87 | Unknown | I just... |
| 03:35:47.81 | Rhett | Okay, so. This is just kind of an overview of how to navigate it. I won't go into this any further. I want to show you what the screens look like. And to let you know that in iBooks, which is also on your iPad, we've already taken the liberty of caching this presentation so you can look at it at your leisure. There is an iPad how-to guide in iBooks already there. You don't need to be connected to data or Wi-Fi to use this. And |
| 03:35:56.76 | Unknown | Oh, yeah. |
| 03:35:56.98 | Unknown | what screens are. |
| 03:35:57.64 | Chief Tejada | look like. |
| 03:36:19.52 | Rhett | We're here to help because I know there's a learning curve involved. We anticipate that. So we invite you to meet with us individually, call us as needed, and we'll work with you to make this a smooth transition. |
| 03:36:26.07 | Unknown | So. |
| 03:36:26.44 | Mayor | work sitting. |
| 03:36:27.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:36:35.79 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:36:36.09 | Rhett | you And that concludes my portion of the presentation. |
| 03:36:39.70 | Vice Mayor Williams | Great. |
| 03:36:41.07 | Rhett | Terrific. And I'm open for questions. |
| 03:36:43.97 | Vice Mayor Williams | So we will not be receiving a paper packet for our. |
| 03:36:49.31 | Unknown | I think the next meeting will receive a favor back in. |
| 03:36:51.97 | Vice Mayor Williams | Okay, good. That makes me feel comfortable. |
| 03:36:53.42 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:36:57.22 | Debbie (City Clerk) | The other thing that I think we failed to address, and I'll make it real clear right now, is what I'll do is I'll reverse the normal packet process, and we will process the I-legislate on Thursday. So you will have your packet on Thursday. |
| 03:37:15.85 | Mayor | on Thursday on your book. |
| 03:37:17.79 | Debbie (City Clerk) | on your book, and then I'll follow up with paper on Friday. But for this next packet, absolutely you'll get a Paper on Thursday. Thank you. |
| 03:37:28.15 | Unknown | I lose a job there. |
| 03:37:29.81 | Debbie (City Clerk) | you |
| 03:37:31.34 | Unknown | So here we are. All right. Do you know how much gas I can save you here by the way? |
| 03:37:36.73 | Mayor | I think your task is only beginning. |
| 03:37:39.71 | Councilmember Weiner | So Brett, what does the city have now for like a software policy on city-owned computers |
| 03:37:40.71 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:37:40.72 | Mayor | Yeah. |
| 03:37:48.88 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:37:49.47 | Mayor | What? There's a second part. Oh, okay. Here comes the second. We have to pass a resolution. |
| 03:37:49.50 | Councilmember Weiner | What? Here comes the scene. |
| 03:37:56.94 | Mayor | I thought he was a... |
| 03:37:59.98 | Unknown | Well, that's you. |
| 03:38:03.96 | Mary Wagner | So I was going to briefly walk you through what is also in your packet, which is the City of Sausalito e-communications policy, which we're asking the Council to adopt tonight, which would apply to the use of electronic communication devices by all city boards, commissions and obviously the city council during agendized public meetings. So is Rhett? indicated much more visually attractively than this. Going paperless obviously reduces environmental impacts. SAID STAFF TIME. and in my opinion provides the council with really an effective and efficient tool for managing data. but concurrently it raises the issue of the use of electronic communication devices by public officials during a public meeting subject to the Brown Act. This issue has always been there with IEP with your phones or other communication devices, but with the introduction of the iPad, we thought that this would be a good opportunity to bring this policy to you. Some of the issues that come up with respect to the use of electronic communication devices during meetings include just the appearance of inattentiveness during a meeting, you know, if you're looking down, you know, And you'll notice that tonight I'm actively using an iPad to take notes to remind myself of council direction. on each agenda item. and at the same time trying to make eye contact with you so that you know that I'm paying attention to what you're saying. But it really raises issues for the public, so it's important that they know that you're paying attention to what is being presented. It also raises the issue of the ability to access information outside of the meeting format very easily. This raises both Brown Act issues and due process concerns Brown Act primarily because of the messaging features, so you could be receiving input from other council members. I know none of you would do that, but it's important that we make it clear to all city boards and commissions that you're not to be text messaging or emailing or receiving communications from the public either while you're considering an item that's in front of you that's part of city business. So it would be very easy for somebody at home watching on the city's website to say, oh my gosh, that item, why aren't they thinking about this? I'm going to email a council member and tell them what I think. If you access that information, It raises due process concerns and also Brown Act concerns at that. shared with all the members of the council. The policy that, whoops, I did the same thing Chief DeHatta did. Um... The policy that you have in front of you tonight is trying to address some of these issues, and it applies obviously, as I've said, to all Boards, commissions, and committees, only during notice public meetings that are subject to the Brown Act. The policy that you have in front of you We're, bringing to you with the suggestion that it not apply to council subcommittees because that's a much more fluid and working group environment. And to the extent that a council member is using an electronic communication device during that meeting, it's much easier to disclose that and say, well, hey, I just pulled up San Francisco's regulations and this is what they do. So that's the policy that staff is suggesting you work with tonight. So what it says, in a nutshell, is that you're encouraged not to access the Internet during a meeting if it distracts from participation in the meeting or creates some kind of appearance of inattention. You can always ask us to look something up for you. You know, I thought that San Francisco was doing XYZ, or San Rafael just had that issue in front of them. Can you see if you can find that for us? similar to what you do now when those things come up, but we might be able to access the information for you during the meeting. Thank you. You're discouraged from receiving phone calls, emails, or other forms of messaging, unless it's an emergency. Obviously, you know, if someone needs to get a hold of you, they're going to call you on your phone, and if it's an emergency, you need to take that. If you do receive information during a meeting, the policy indicates that you should disclose it. This came up during one of your hearings on the housing element where there was a statute that a member of the Planning Commission looked up and it was disclosed in the record. While we would prefer that you ask us to do that for you, it can be done in that manner as well. I think this addresses the issue that Vice Mayor Leone was raising. What about the use of city-provided electronics? They're only to be used for city purposes. Incidental personal usage is okay, and this is directly from the statute that's cited in your staff report. And electronic devices issued by the city are returned when the member is no longer serving on the city council. or if they were issued to Boards, Commissions, or Committees. You have to give them back. and we've asked each council member just to sign a receipt acknowledging the receipt of the iPad and your understanding of its usage the need to return it at the end of your service. So staff is asking that you adopt a resolution approving the policy that you've been provided. And we did notify all the boards, commissions, and committees that the council was considering this policy tonight. So if they had any input or wanted to ask questions, they would have the ability to do that. We also looked at a few other jurisdictions, and they range from the very strict, you know, thou shalt not access any outside information during a meeting, to the more, even more broad than what we put in front of you tonight, which is You know, try not to do it. basically is what they were saying. So with that, I'm happy to answer any questions that you might have. |
| 03:43:28.25 | Unknown | Questions? Thank you. |
| 03:43:30.10 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 03:43:30.14 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Mr. Mayor? So I think this might be a question for Rhett, just with respect to the network. When we receive these, will we receive them in the form of file? Will they be accessible by city staff? Will it be in a shared network? What is... with regards to our packets. In other words, will the packet be like physically, you know, emailed to us or, you know, on the iPads or how will that work? |
| 03:44:02.01 | Rhett | I think... Well, no. The Granicus iLegislate app pulls down the agenda exactly actually as it exists on the website. And then all of the attachments come with it. It's a little bit of a manual process. I was actually going to suggest that what we might do is, and this is obviously up to you, is we might send out a calendar invitation just kind of a recurring before the meeting so that you remember that you need to launch the app and retrieve the packet. |
| 03:44:32.14 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | So we would be downloading the packet then. Absolutely. And we would have our copy. We would each have five separate copies. |
| 03:44:35.53 | Rhett | Absolutely. |
| 03:44:42.06 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | on our iPads. It wouldn't be a shared document. No, it is not a shared document. |
| 03:44:44.08 | Rhett | It wouldn't be a shared document. No, it is not a shared document. That was what I was getting about the private. Any notes you make are your notes. |
| 03:44:49.23 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Oh. Okay. |
| 03:44:52.01 | Rhett | And only your not. |
| 03:44:53.05 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | And Mr. Mayor, one follow-up question. So when we make our comments and whatever on this document, Can we delete that? Can we send it to to another you know, email? I mean, is that part of city property? Does it have to stay on the iPad, you know? |
| 03:45:18.88 | Rhett | I can't speak to the doesn't have to stay part because I think that's kind of out of my... But the app does offer the functionality to email it to yourself. as you want to. |
| 03:45:31.49 | Unknown | you |
| 03:45:33.21 | Rhett | Mr. Mayor. And when I say what? |
| 03:45:34.24 | Mayor | Mr. Mayor. |
| 03:45:35.08 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:45:37.17 | Mayor | Thank you. Okay, let me see if I can ask about that. TO TAKE ON TO THAT QUESTION. If I have personal notes on here that are just personal to me, their public record. Right? |
| 03:45:49.24 | Mary Wagner | Well, it's like making personal notes on your agenda packet. |
| 03:45:52.16 | Mayor | But that's not a piece of paper. |
| 03:45:53.09 | Mary Wagner | Or on a piece of paper. Yeah. |
| 03:45:55.28 | Mayor | So I don't have to disclose my personal notes. |
| 03:45:55.30 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. Thank you. So I don't have to describe it. |
| 03:45:58.17 | Mayor | I do. I don't. Do I have to disclose my personal notes on paper? |
| 03:46:01.57 | Mary Wagner | Well, you would to the same extent that you would be required to disclose them on paper. So if somebody put in a request to access Councilmember personal notes, I would argue that that's a deliberative process and there's exception and protection that doesn't require their disclosure. And that would apply whether you made those notes on a piece of paper or you made those notes on an electronic copy of your packet. |
| 03:46:27.55 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Mr. Mayor, I have a follow-up question to that. So, Mary, right now, I don't know about the rest of the council members, but I would have a whole room full of paper if I kept all of the papers and all of the notes that I have. So what typically happens is I don't. You know, I recycle the paper packets as I see fit. And so, of course, I guess my question with the iPad is, you know, I'm putting in my notes, I'm putting in my questions, and it's electronic. That's a different medium. That doesn't take up a room in my house. I could email it, you know, to myself. But, you know, I mean, can I delete it on the iPad and what are the legal aspects of that we need to consider |
| 03:47:21.68 | Mary Wagner | Well, I think I need to address that further. And my initial reaction is it's the same thing that you do with your paper copy. What I don't know is if they live forever, in some electronic format somewhere. I don't know the answer to that. |
| 03:47:40.53 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | So, |
| 03:47:40.97 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 03:47:41.10 | Vice Mayor Williams | Thank you. be. |
| 03:47:41.76 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 03:47:41.88 | Vice Mayor Williams | you We can... right there for this guy. Thank you. Are these backed up on the... I wouldn't think so, because they're downloaded to our iPad, so these are not backed up on any city system, right? |
| 03:47:56.95 | Rhett | We don't backup the Granicus server. So presumably Granicus does their own backups, but I don't know that it's the kind of thing we could retrieve. But, |
| 03:48:06.35 | Vice Mayor Williams | But would it be backed up at all, our notes, that is, because once we've downloaded it, it's on our iPad or our computer. And any notes we put on that would seem to reside only here. |
| 03:48:16.61 | Rhett | Right. |
| 03:48:22.19 | Rhett | When we first started testing the app, I would make a note and it would appear on Debbie's iPad because we're using the same account. And so we just set up a test account and we started making changes. And so the sense I have from that is that the notes exist in some form on the Granica server. |
| 03:48:41.90 | Unknown | Oh. |
| 03:48:42.68 | Rhett | Now that said, There's no way that I can think of to get to them. I don't have access to it. There's no interface for it. There's no permissions for it from an administration perspective. So the only way to get to it is on your iPad. Presumably, if you delete them from your notes field in iLegislate, They're gone. because the iPad synchronizes with the server, much as when I made a change it showed up on Debbie's iPad and when I deleted something it came off of Debbie's iPad. |
| 03:49:08.90 | Unknown | me to change. |
| 03:49:14.62 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:49:14.76 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | See you. |
| 03:49:15.11 | Unknown | Thank you. Mr. Mayor. |
| 03:49:15.97 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | you |
| 03:49:16.02 | Unknown | you |
| 03:49:16.23 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 03:49:16.48 | Unknown | Amen. |
| 03:49:17.07 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Mr. Mayor. |
| 03:49:17.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:49:18.03 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 03:49:18.07 | Unknown | you |
| 03:49:18.44 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | So could we, perhaps you could follow up and do a couple tests? tests cases, you know, just to confirm the confidentiality of this, because sometimes I'll take notes and then I won't you know, I won't go there or I won't, you know, I'll change my notes and, you know, in process. And so, you know, I think that you know, you've got there's a certain amount of raw data that, you know, a council member might put in their material that I personally would like to know if that's being automatically backed up somewhere. out there that I would want to be just aware of that. So that if I deleted it from my iPad, the thought that it still might be out there, I'd like to know. |
| 03:50:11.41 | Rhett | I'll pursue that with Granicus and make sure I have a clearer understanding. |
| 03:50:12.84 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Thank you. Thank you, Brad. |
| 03:50:15.29 | Mayor | Okay. Any public comment about these newfangled machines? The President's got his hand in the air. Come up here, Chuck. Bring your Model T with you. The President's got his hand in the air. |
| 03:50:24.13 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:50:24.15 | Unknown | Hey, Chuck. |
| 03:50:24.60 | Unknown | We have one for you in the office. |
| 03:50:26.38 | Mayor | Yeah, that's a smile. |
| 03:50:27.03 | Unknown | Wow. |
| 03:50:31.05 | Chuck Donald | I think those are fascinating. Technologically, they're impossible. But you guys each have one now. |
| 03:50:36.47 | Unknown | Oh, yeah. |
| 03:50:36.94 | Chuck Donald | Ah. |
| 03:50:37.80 | Unknown | Thank you very much. I was just, I was thinking that |
| 03:50:38.42 | Chuck Donald | I was just... I was thinking that when my father was born, man couldn't even fly. Before he died, we had a used car on the moon |
| 03:50:41.65 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:50:48.77 | Chuck Donald | that just now ran out of gas. |
| 03:50:50.74 | Unknown | I've seen it. you So, |
| 03:50:51.62 | Chuck Donald | So the advances, you can't beat them. But let me get down a little mundane thing that happened to me. today. my computer crashed in some way and I took it to the Wow. to have it fixed and I came back and I looked at it this afternoon Everything that I thought I had deleted out there, first you say you delete it, then it says, do you really want to delete it? And then permanently delete it. When I opened it up this afternoon, there were 401 messages that had been retrieved from cyberspace somewhere. that were on my message. So boy, there are ways somewhere, and it's going to be a real problem. for any confidentiality. And it gets, I mean, if you're going to depend on ethics to make that right, I think you're going down the wrong path. There was a picture of a couple of guys that stole cars. People have their own sense of ethics. Some of them steal cars, some of them murder people, some of them wear their Boy Scout badge. if you're going to depend on ethics, it's just not going to work. And I don't know the answer to it. But something is going to go because technology advance. Thank you. |
| 03:51:58.63 | Mayor | Thank you. Thank you. Vicki, you want to say anything? |
| 03:52:06.01 | Councilmember Weiner | All right. I was going to ask the question I asked earlier, Rhett. Is there a software policy? Because, I mean, usually a company has a software policy about, you know, company-owned machines. Anything you put on there is, you know. |
| 03:52:18.04 | Rhett | we don't, within the city, we don't allow people to install their own software if they need something in the case for it. |
| 03:52:26.59 | Councilmember Weiner | Because now based off the system you have in place, the client-based system, you can't? Or you just say you prohibit it? |
| 03:52:34.61 | Rhett | We prohibit it. Thank you. |
| 03:52:36.28 | Councilmember Weiner | Technically or? I'm busy. |
| 03:52:39.89 | Rhett | Technically and procedurally. Okay, so there's no admin tool. |
| 03:52:40.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:52:40.68 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. Okay. So there's no admin tool like that for the iPad that allows you to control what's |
| 03:52:49.29 | Rhett | There is. It's a cost. And I think because we're sort of stepping into this new world together, I think we were looking at this from the perspective of making it as open as possible so that you would get the most value out of it. |
| 03:53:06.99 | Unknown | most valuable. |
| 03:53:08.51 | Rhett | we might change that down the line. I don't know that I would want to move forward with iPads without having some kind of control, but what makes the council different, at least in my mind, from the users that I support here is that I can't get to you if you're in trouble. If something goes sideways for you on the device that I assign you, I need you to be able to have some measure of control over it. because you're kind of out in the wild as far as I'm concerned, unless you want to come into City Hall and that's fine too. So I guess, to some extent, we're making this up as we go. If you were in an environment that I controlled, obviously I would want to exercise more control over the device. Does that answer your question? |
| 03:53:56.56 | Councilmember Weiner | Yeah. |
| 03:53:56.98 | Mayor | All right. |
| 03:53:57.80 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:53:57.92 | Mayor | Any more questions, comments? |
| 03:54:01.36 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Mr. Mayor, I just have a comment. I want to thank Rhett. Thank you very much for taking this bold step. My pleasure. And I think it's very exciting, and we're all looking forward to learning as we go, and we'll look to you for advice. But I just wanted to acknowledge your efforts on this, and thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:54:23.44 | Mayor | Thank you very much. My pleasure. I just wrote on my notepad, good idea. |
| 03:54:23.81 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | My pleasure. |
| 03:54:30.03 | Mayor | All right, I'm going to make a motion. Adopt a resolution of the City Council of City of South Carolina establishing a policy regarding the use of personal computing devices by members of the City Council boards, commissions, and committees in public meetings. |
| 03:54:41.78 | Unknown | I'll check it. Thank you. |
| 03:54:42.86 | Mayor | All right. |
| 03:54:43.15 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:54:43.50 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:54:43.52 | Vice Mayor Williams | Thank you. |
| 03:54:43.53 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:54:43.55 | Vice Mayor Williams | And I just have one comment. I would like to ask, as part of this, ask staff to follow up on the issue of what does remain on the server. Because I want some level of comfort around that. I want to know one way or the other whether my notes, my personal notes, will be held on that server. |
| 03:54:43.57 | Mayor | in favor. |
| 03:55:12.95 | Vice Mayor Williams | and be able to be accessed by someone or not. if I could, but I certainly agree with what you've done, and I thank you very much. Thank you. |
| 03:55:22.04 | Councilmember Weiner | I mean, you can guarantee that they can be accessed by someone. |
| 03:55:22.06 | Vice Mayor Williams | Thank you. Yes, I know. |
| 03:55:25.82 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. So the question is, I doubt they'll be able to answer to say if they I mean, your example is a good one, Chuck, that unless they right over their old data versus deleting it, even on their own servers, is the same issue. It can be retrieved in some manner. |
| 03:55:40.47 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:55:41.91 | Councilmember Weiner | by them if they so choose, generally. PRESENTER 1 Thank you. |
| 03:55:45.65 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:55:45.77 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:55:45.79 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 03:55:45.84 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:55:45.95 | Mayor | Thank you. All right, we have a motion and a second. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Seeing none, we'll move on. Thank you, Red. Thank you, Red. Amen. |
| 03:55:49.63 | Councilmember Weiner | uh, |
| 03:55:49.85 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:55:49.89 | Councilmember Weiner | Bye. |
| 03:55:50.16 | Unknown | All right. |
| 03:55:50.36 | Unknown | you |
| 03:55:53.11 | Unknown | Thank you, Red. Thank you, John. Amen. I'll see you tomorrow morning on this. |
| 03:55:58.80 | Mayor | Can we all have your personal home phone number, your cell phone number, and every other number you have? Where are you going to be this weekend? Right here. |
| 03:56:00.55 | Rhett | Call me. |
| 03:56:06.10 | Unknown | Thank you. You know where I am. |
| 03:56:06.68 | Rhett | Thank you. |
| 03:56:06.71 | Unknown | going to This weekend. |
| 03:56:07.49 | Rhett | Thank you. |
| 03:56:07.50 | Unknown | . |
| 03:56:07.98 | Rhett | I know. |
| 03:56:08.03 | Unknown | here. |
| 03:56:14.29 | Mayor | Oh, yeah, we all have to sign that thing you turned into, Tebby. Thank you. |
| 03:56:17.87 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:56:17.92 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:56:18.46 | Unknown | you |
| 03:56:19.77 | Mayor | Otherwise, they won't let you walk out of your machine. OK, so now we're at two. City manager. |
| 03:56:27.03 | Adam Politzer | Information for the Council. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and council members. Just a few brief items here for your information. One is a reminder that the next MCCMC dinner is, I believe, the 22nd. I believe that's the Wednesday night, the fourth Wednesday of the month in the city of Larkspur. And their speaker that night is going to be talking about shared services, and that's obviously something that we've talked about here as a council. We've talked about it in our strategic planning session. You heard our detective this evening talking about working with Twin Cities to get support with detective services. We've talked about our relationship with the Squatch and Marin City Sanitary District with working with the sewer crews and sewer projects. So I think it'll be a very valuable discussion that I hope that you are all each able to attend and let alone the value of the networking with your fellow council members. So please confirm with Debbie if you have not already. I think you all received an email last week and looking for confirmation there. At last, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, I was down at the City Manager's Conference. Very well attended even during these economic times, but I think again for the League of California Cities to host this conference is very important. A lot of valuable sessions. But one of the interesting speakers was a CNN correspondent and talking about the political race right now and this particular correspondent is covering the Republican primaries that are going on and really talk to us about the weight of the independent voters nationally and here in California and how the majority of California for many years was overwhelmingly Democratic. And I think that they are projecting by the year of 2025 that the majority of California will actually be independents and that the independent from the last election, not the Obama election, the election prior to Obama, |
| 03:58:41.74 | Unknown | you |
| 03:58:59.09 | Adam Politzer | there was roughly a million independent voters in California. During the Obama election, there was over 3 million registered independent voters. And this is similar to when we use FM3 to do our poll, Um, for fire annexation. And when I saw them originally at the League of California Cities Conference do a poll, on activity in the state of California. It gave similar type of statistics, so I'm hoping to be able to get that information and send it off to you because it does talk about what's going on in our country what's going on in our state and I think to some degree when you look at the activity here in Northern California, the county in Sausalito, you can see the independent voter movement actually taking place. The other part of the independent voter, which is an element of the independent voter that we may not see as closely here in Sausalito, but most of the youth movement belongs to that group. And as we can see, we can see that that we can see that we can see that we can see that we can see that we can see that that we can see that we can see that we can see that we can see that we can see that we can see that that we can see that we can see that we can see that we can see that we can see that we may not see as closely here in Sausalito, but most of the youth movement belongs to that group. And as we've talked about with iPhones and iPads, the youth movement isn't Facebook, Twitter, all the technology that these folks are making use of. they're not being labeled anymore. So when I was a child, my parents were Democrats and our next door neighbors were Republicans. And that was basically it and every election season You knew who the Republicans were and you knew who the Democrats were. And there was a real small group of folks that just didn't participate. And as a kid, you just grew up saying, well, I guess I'm, you know, a Democrat or a Republican. Um, But they're moving away from that because the youth movement doesn't want to be labeled. They don't want to be labeled that. at some point in time there's going to be a change and potentially a third party or just a change altogether. And there is some interesting statistics talking about what that may or may not look like in the next four years. So I thought it was very interesting. It was something that I hadn't thought much about, but when we started talking about the statistics, supporting it, then I started recognizing how that has an influence here in Northern California and obviously in our county and in our city. A lot of sessions talking about budget and talking about the woes that many cities face. And then also some of the successes that other cities are having and that we're not alone. We know just here in our county, cities like the city of Ross, their general fund is matched in their reserves. 100% of their general fund is in their reserves. Now some would say that's not healthy. You should be spending that money to actually doing and providing services at a higher level if you have that type of consistent revenue coming into your budget each year. So it was interesting not just to be there surrounded with people that were talking about cuts and furloughs and significant downtrends both in morale and service in their community, but also to hear some of the good things that are going on in our community. A lot of different lawyers there to talk about employee relations, to talk about negotiations with labor groups, to talk about work environment and why that was important is when you look at furloughs and cuts and asking employees to do more with less, the morale starts to decay. And when that happens, you start seeing workers' comp. or unfair working condition claims come forward. So a variety of things that are another tax on city services and on city staff, especially on the management of it because there are laws that make us have to jump through a lot of hoops to make sure that they aren't being mistreated or put in poor working conditions or asked to do things out of class. So that's what I think a lot of cities that have had significant cuts are really experiencing. So the titles of these sessions, and you can go to the League of California's website and see all this information plus all the PowerPoints that were presented is very valuable. The Governor's 12-Point Plan, full session on that, where they had representatives from the Governor's Office, the representative working directly on the 12-Point Plan. was there. They had, and I want to say that it was California Ford or California first, which is the group that's out there really asking for the states to move forward on very aggressive pension reform. And then they also had the union representative for the County of Los Angeles Unified School District there to give an opinion and and provide a discussion on things that there will be some support things that they'll be fought over, and just to give us an idea of what might be coming down the lane here in the next six months or so. But just a very comprehensive managers retreat, and then also an opportunity to network. They had breakfast, lunch, and dinner similar to when you folks went to the League Academy of New Councils and Mayors where we're always together and an opportunity to network and meet other managers from far away throughout the state of California and also managers here in Northern California. So a great opportunity to network and meet some new folks and also check in with some folks that I call mentors that are able to help me as we continue to face challenging times both economically and professionally, keeping people inspired and motivated. So I just wanted to report that I thought the conference was well worth attending and a great benefit. One of my personal benefits is I received a nice note from our new city manager in San Rafael, Nancy Mackle. Nancy and I spent a lot of time together and I introduced her. She's brand new this year to the managers group, so an opportunity to meet and introduce her to other managers and strengthen our relationship. And as we talk about shared services, San Rafael is our biggest city with the most money, with the most staff, and things like ADA that we continue to fight against when they have a good reputation of dealing with it, they have building officials. We technically don't have a building official. We have a building inspector. You know, so looking at how do we use the resources that are doing a good job in this community to its fullest potential, I think that that was time well spent and, you know, I appreciate getting to know Nancy a little better as well. The last thing that I wanted to report, and you folks are all aware of this, but for our listening public out there, is that the LAFCO meetings are scheduled, and there's the reconsideration hearing that's scheduled for Thursday night at 7 o'clock in the city of San Rafael in their city hall. And the public is welcome to attend and be heard. And then the LAFCO protest hearing will be, is scheduled for Monday, this coming Monday, the 13th, here in our city council chambers at 6.30 p.m., I believe. And again, the public is encouraged to attend and be heard. That concludes my report. Happy to answer any of your questions. |
| 04:07:26.12 | Mayor | The LAFCO meeting is LAFCO City, right? So 7th of LAFCO. Good. Any questions? |
| 04:07:29.59 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:07:33.73 | Mayor | All right, moving on. Future agenda items. |
| 04:07:36.06 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:07:42.37 | Mayor | Voted. I looked at the minutes. We voted on categorizing the current list last week. So that comes off. But does anybody have any future agenda items they'd like to offer? |
| 04:07:56.88 | Mayor | Hearing none. Public comment on future agenda items? |
| 04:08:01.05 | Unknown | So this Thursday, it was in San Rafael, City Hall? Yeah, City Hall. 7, you say? Yeah. |
| 04:08:11.21 | Mayor | Okay, Councilmember Committee reports. Any committee remarks? Okay. |
| 04:08:19.00 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Mr. Mayor? |
| 04:08:19.64 | Mayor | Yes. |
| 04:08:20.42 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | CDBG has some meetings coming up, and I will do what I did last time, which is create a report and send it to city staff, city council, just reporting in for timeliness. |
| 04:08:42.29 | Mayor | refer to market and do not respond. |
| 04:08:44.38 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Yeah. |
| 04:08:44.42 | Mayor | Yeah. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Mayor's appointments of council liaisons to boards commissions committees. I don't have any. for those to make unless somebody else has some idea. |
| 04:09:07.38 | Unknown | Explosion. |
| 04:09:08.26 | Mayor | It's appointments to council liaisons to boards, commissions, committees. |
| 04:09:08.46 | Unknown | So, |
| 04:09:13.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:09:14.00 | Unknown | Thank you. I heard that part. |
| 04:09:16.68 | Mayor | Thank you. Okay, that's it. All right, moving right along. Continued discussion of appointments to Planning Commission, Sustainability Commission, Historic Significant Board, and the status of other boards and commissions. Here, I would like to... I lost my list of planning commissioners. Who are the three that are up? |
| 04:09:36.58 | Unknown | Stephanie Kagan, Phil Vermin, and Sam Baird. I understand. |
| 04:09:42.25 | Mayor | Okay. I would like to nominate all three of those for another term. it. |
| 04:09:52.51 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 04:09:53.03 | Mary Wagner | second. |
| 04:09:53.45 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 04:09:54.35 | Mayor | I think it's other nominations. Anybody else have any other nominations? |
| 04:09:54.70 | Unknown | and just... |
| 04:09:55.92 | Mary Wagner | Just, yeah. Mr. Mayor, the process under your municipal code for making is that You open the floor for nominations, mayor makes nominations, other council members can make a nomination, and then you vote for your candidates for the three, I believe there are three spots, correct? Yeah. |
| 04:10:09.47 | Mayor | I'm not. |
| 04:10:09.55 | Unknown | for your candidates All right. |
| 04:10:13.87 | Councilmember Weiner | Correct. So do you do them individually or do you do them as a group? |
| 04:10:16.49 | Mary Wagner | Did you do the individual? However you want to do it. Typically what we've done is you've done, each council member has said there are three |
| 04:10:25.02 | Councilmember Weiner | year three. Yeah. |
| 04:10:26.80 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 04:10:27.15 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. |
| 04:10:27.24 | Mary Wagner | requested, the three that they want to get their vote. |
| 04:10:33.23 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. |
| 04:10:33.24 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 04:10:33.28 | Councilmember Weiner | Okay. |
| 04:10:33.97 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 04:10:34.04 | Councilmember Weiner | I'm asking for other nominations. I'll make another nomination. I'll nominate Becky Nichols. |
| 04:10:43.69 | Councilmember Weiner | Any other nominations? |
| 04:10:44.67 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 04:10:48.36 | Mayor | So now, |
| 04:10:48.87 | Vice Mayor Williams | No, but you know in the future I'd like a little more notice on this if we're going to do it. That's all. I haven't really. contemplated being in this position. |
| 04:10:57.66 | Mayor | um |
| 04:11:01.56 | Mayor | This is just kind of how we've always done it. We had them last week or two weeks ago, I think, on the list of commissions and showed the vacancies and all that sort of thing. |
| 04:11:02.40 | Vice Mayor Williams | This is a |
| 04:11:02.84 | Councilmember Weiner | agenda. |
| 04:11:03.31 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:11:13.49 | Vice Mayor Williams | Oh, I thought I read this item on the agenda, and I thought it was simply to continue discussion on which boards were going to populate and which ones were not. I didn't realize we were going to be nominating. |
| 04:11:25.12 | Mayor | Yeah. under public analysis, mayor's nominations. I'm trying to hide it. Oh, you're on D. |
| 04:11:30.79 | Vice Mayor Williams | Oh, you're on D. Okay, all right. |
| 04:11:32.88 | Mayor | All right. This is E. Yeah. |
| 04:11:35.29 | Vice Mayor Williams | Okay. |
| 04:11:35.82 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 04:11:37.40 | Mayor | Okay, so. |
| 04:11:39.66 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor, can I ask a clarification? |
| 04:11:51.86 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | No, that's OK. Thank you. |
| 04:11:55.00 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:11:55.02 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 04:11:55.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:11:55.07 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 04:11:55.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:11:55.10 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 04:11:55.15 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:11:55.15 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | I don't need |
| 04:11:55.17 | Mayor | All right. |
| 04:11:55.83 | Chuck Donald | And he's. Amen. |
| 04:11:56.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:11:57.03 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | All right. |
| 04:11:57.43 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:11:57.72 | Mayor | Okay, nominations are closed, so we vote. How do we do that? |
| 04:12:05.16 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:12:06.75 | Debbie (City Clerk) | If you want to... Each person will go down any person and each person says their three. |
| 04:12:12.77 | Chuck Donald | It says there are three. Oh, there are three. |
| 04:12:16.94 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Council member Pfeiffer. |
| 04:12:19.91 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Bill Berner, Stan Baer, and Stafford Keegan. |
| 04:12:26.96 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Councilmember Ford. |
| 04:12:28.09 | Vice Mayor Williams | the same. |
| 04:12:30.95 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Councilmember Weiner. |
| 04:12:32.35 | Unknown | Amen. . the same. |
| 04:12:37.83 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Vice Mayor Leone. |
| 04:12:37.86 | Councilmember Weiner | So, I want something to keep going because you've already gotten there. Bear, Keegan, and Nichols. |
| 04:12:51.08 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Mayor Kelly. |
| 04:12:52.07 | Mayor | Werner, Baer, and Keegan. Thank you. |
| 04:12:59.31 | Mayor | Okay, so then I'd like to encourage us to get some notifications out and see if we can't build some candidates for landmarks and sustainability. a person or more on landmarks and sustainability is |
| 04:13:19.12 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Mr. Mayor, I believe we have, oh Mr. Mayor, may I ask the |
| 04:13:19.16 | Mayor | Mr. Mayor? |
| 04:13:23.55 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | I believe we have some applicants for the HLB and we have one up for reappointment. |
| 04:13:35.19 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 04:13:35.61 | Councilmember Weiner | I think we went through this last time. |
| 04:13:37.03 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Yeah, so I think we're all |
| 04:13:37.20 | Mayor | Yeah. |
| 04:13:37.79 | Councilmember Weiner | Thank you. |
| 04:13:39.97 | Mayor | Well, I've been coming to every meeting, and I haven't interviewed anybody for six months. So if they are, they're stale and we need to go. Who's termed out on the sustainability |
| 04:13:45.31 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Well... |
| 04:13:48.77 | Councilmember Weiner | I'm sorry. |
| 04:13:48.79 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Well, |
| 04:13:49.08 | Councilmember Weiner | on the system. Commission. |
| 04:13:50.97 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 04:13:51.10 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Well, hang on. I'd like an answer on my Historic Landmarks Board question first. |
| 04:13:56.86 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Historic Landmarks Board. |
| 04:14:02.92 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Hold on, I have too many documents here. Historic landmarks, you've got... |
| 04:14:12.64 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Vicki Nichols and John Flavin, expiring July of 2011. Vicki Nichols is currently termed out. And then the balance of Morgan Pears and Caroline Kiernapp are expiring in July of 2012. and you have a vacant position, which term would be through July of 12. As far as applicants, do you have an applicant? |
| 04:14:33.93 | Unknown | as a You have a |
| 04:14:35.91 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:14:42.92 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Let me preface this, because I'm going to give you a very old list. |
| 04:14:47.75 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 04:14:49.15 | Debbie (City Clerk) | On the norm, we keep the applications for one year. |
| 04:14:49.20 | Unknown | On the norm. |
| 04:14:54.94 | Debbie (City Clerk) | I have Dave Hodgson who applied in June of 2010. He has asked to be re-upped. Ronald Reich from the Tree Committee. Julie Fox Warren, August of 2010. Russell Fredrickson of November of 2011. So you have applicants for those positions of which never been interviewed recently. |
| 04:15:25.37 | Mayor | I'd like to cast the net wider and find some more. |
| 04:15:25.69 | Vice Mayor Williams | Thank you. Well, Mr. Mayor, if I might address that. I believe that now that we have authority as a historic, the city has a historic landmarks certificate or whatever it's called, and I'm not remembering it at the moment, that these applicants have to have special qualifications to be appointed. So we need to know what those are so we can recruit people. |
| 04:15:55.00 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:15:55.01 | Debbie (City Clerk) | to be appointed. |
| 04:15:59.96 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Absolutely, and we have that available once. |
| 04:16:00.38 | Vice Mayor Williams | you |
| 04:16:03.71 | Vice Mayor Williams | Could you mind sending it out so that we can take a look at it, and then we can recruit people based on that, or talk to people in the community and ask them? |
| 04:16:04.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:16:04.68 | Debbie (City Clerk) | We can. |
| 04:16:04.92 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:16:14.20 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Mr. Mayor, can I respond to that? Debbie, it's my understanding that that requirement, and I'm a little foggy because I researched this about a month ago, but that we have, that we meet the standards with, I think one needs to be an architect, historic architect, and one needs to be... For some reason, I looked at the current makeup, and it seemed like we met that requirement, the new requirements for the historic, and that the three could be just regular residents |
| 04:16:14.24 | Vice Mayor Williams | Mr. |
| 04:16:56.20 | Debbie (City Clerk) | to |
| 04:16:56.42 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | at large. |
| 04:16:56.44 | Debbie (City Clerk) | at Lowe. That's close. |
| 04:16:59.39 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | King. |
| 04:16:59.85 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Thank you. |
| 04:16:59.87 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 04:16:59.90 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Depends on who you are. keep on your board and who you do not. Oh, right. Would you like me to be specific with what the regulations are? Commissions must have a minimum of five members, with all members having a demonstrated interest, competence, or knowledge of historic preservation. |
| 04:17:04.93 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Oh, right. Sure. |
| 04:17:18.77 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Commission members shall be appointed from among professionals in the disciplines of architecture, History. architectural history, planning, archaeology, and other historic preservation-related disciplines, such as urban planning, American studies, American civilization, cultural geography, or cultural anthropology, to the extent that such professions are available in the committee. |
| 04:17:29.84 | Unknown | you |
| 04:17:29.97 | Unknown | Such as. |
| 04:17:39.91 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 04:17:41.78 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Commission membership shall also include lay members who have demonstrated special interest, competence, experience, or knowledge in historic preservation, American studies, cultural anthropology, cultural geography, or other historic preservation related disciplines. |
| 04:17:46.81 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 04:17:59.52 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | And I, for one, would thank you, Debbie, because that confirms my understanding based on that description. I think we have a robust pool and a fine mix. That's my opinion. |
| 04:18:15.21 | Mayor | I don't agree. So I would like to advertise in the currents and maybe even throw, if you can get somebody to throw something in the scope, saying that we're, you know, and maybe brag about our new historic district, you know, so that people get sort of energized about it. And let's see if we can't find some really stellar folks to interview. That's my wish. And then on sustainability, I think |
| 04:18:17.51 | Unknown | I don't know. |
| 04:18:17.86 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:18:18.07 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 04:18:18.28 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:18:34.57 | Unknown | Mm. |
| 04:18:34.97 | Unknown | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 04:18:48.54 | Unknown | Who's turned out that |
| 04:18:50.55 | Mayor | There's a bunch of them. There's a Sioux Courier. |
| 04:18:59.42 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Sustainability, you have Sue Courier who is termed out, you have Bill Ring who is termed out, And then you also have Jan Johnson whose term expires in February. |
| 04:19:17.26 | Vice Mayor Williams | Do we have any applicants? |
| 04:19:22.86 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Sorry, I mixed all my papers up. You need an iPad. |
| 04:19:26.38 | Unknown | You need an iPad. |
| 04:19:28.85 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 04:19:28.89 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Thank you. |
| 04:19:28.91 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 04:19:29.90 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:19:30.58 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Thank you. |
| 04:19:30.59 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:19:30.64 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 04:19:33.92 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Mm-hmm. I'm going to say no because I don't have a page on the agreement. Okay, well let's... I do not have any applicants for sustainability. |
| 04:19:38.25 | Mayor | Okay, well let's... Let's see. So the same kind of thing there too, put that in. |
| 04:19:43.89 | Debbie (City Clerk) | I'm not sure. |
| 04:19:43.96 | Vice Mayor Williams | Ever close. |
| 04:19:44.63 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Thank you. |
| 04:19:44.68 | Vice Mayor Williams | it's a great day. |
| 04:19:44.77 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Thank you. |
| 04:19:49.10 | Mayor | And let's uh |
| 04:19:50.30 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Oh, yeah. We have zero on sustainability. |
| 04:19:51.79 | Mayor | Because they're doing some good stuff, and they need to have some. |
| 04:19:55.52 | Vice Mayor Williams | So do the three of them went to stay? I have to turn there. |
| 04:19:59.05 | Debbie (City Clerk) | I have not contacted them for this year. But if they termed out and you cannot get applicants, you have the... |
| 04:20:07.28 | Mayor | You can reappoint them. Thank you. Yeah. Well, that'll be a good basis for doing that then if we can't find anybody else. |
| 04:20:09.47 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Yeah. |
| 04:20:10.35 | Unknown | Well, Right. Yeah. |
| 04:20:15.01 | Mayor | Because I mean, Sue Currier, for one, has really been on there for a while, and she's very good at what she does. Yeah. |
| 04:20:20.58 | Vice Mayor Williams | Yeah. Mr. Mayor? Yes. I noticed that Trees and Views was dropped from this list, and there are a couple of people who are |
| 04:20:22.47 | Mayor | Thank you. Yes. |
| 04:20:31.72 | Vice Mayor Williams | whose time has expired, I believe. |
| 04:20:36.86 | Debbie (City Clerk) | On the street committee, you have Grant Colfax, who has termed out Betsy Elliott, her term expired in January 2011. And you have Lingam Liddell, who expired in January of 2012. |
| 04:20:51.93 | Mayor | Thank you. Are they all still serving? |
| 04:20:54.87 | Debbie (City Clerk) | They are all continuing to serve. |
| 04:20:59.39 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 04:20:59.41 | Unknown | And |
| 04:20:59.44 | Mayor | Thank you. |
| 04:20:59.46 | Vice Mayor Williams | Thank you. |
| 04:20:59.47 | Mayor | Let's do it. |
| 04:20:59.49 | Vice Mayor Williams | Do we have applicants? |
| 04:20:59.96 | Unknown | Do we have applicants? |
| 04:21:01.45 | Debbie (City Clerk) | You have two, uh, two thousand, I have, again, I have not recontacted these people to see if they want to re-up their applications you have. Joan Proctor from January, excuse me, March of 2010. Tom Willett from, again, December 2010. And Russell Frederickson, November 11. |
| 04:21:24.13 | Mayor | Okay. Well, let's do – I hate to clog it all up because I'd like to go maybe one – go for landmarks first and sustainability second and trees and views third and do it. And we'll do interviews. Do the interviews. Yeah. And let's – |
| 04:21:24.25 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:21:37.73 | Unknown | Do the interviews. |
| 04:21:42.34 | Mayor | Yeah. Okay, that's all I have. All right, good. Anybody have any comments? Comments? Comments? You didn't want to be on planning commission. I move we adjourn. Second. All right. Any other reports of significance? That's the last item. That's it? Okay. Seeing none, adjourn. All in favor? Aye. |
| 04:21:45.63 | Vice Mayor Williams | All right, good. God. |
| 04:21:49.59 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:21:49.61 | Vice Mayor Williams | Thank you. I move we adjourn. |
| 04:21:53.84 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:21:54.00 | Vice Mayor Williams | Thank you. |
| 04:21:54.69 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:21:54.72 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:21:54.74 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:21:57.20 | Unknown | Okay, see you, Madam. Adjoin. All in favor? Hi. Hi. |
| 04:22:09.98 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. you |