| Time | Speaker | Text |
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| 00:00:00.03 | Mayor Kelly | conference with real property negotiator regarding MLK properties, conference with legal counsel, and the case of Bruce versus City of Sausalito and the agency negotiator, city manager, employee organizations. So it's time now for public comment. Are there people in the audience who would like to comment on any of the items on the closed session agenda? Okay, how many people would like to comment? Thank you. Okay, one, I got, no, I got one, two, three, four, five, six. One, two, three, four, five, six. Is that it? All right, seven. Okay, we've got a very tight agenda tonight, so I'm going to limit closed session comments to one minute per person. All right? So who would like to go first? Does anybody have an objection to that, by the way? Okay. Do you have an objection to that? |
| 00:00:53.93 | Unknown (Councilmember) | I think we should. Allow at 3. |
| 00:00:57.96 | Mayor Kelly | Three minutes would be 40 minutes, 30 minutes. We really don't have the time. So I move that we limit it to one minute, 15 minutes total. |
| 00:01:10.10 | Unknown (Councilmember) | I don't think we have a choice. I agree. Second. I second it. |
| 00:01:12.49 | Mayor Kelly | I agree. Second. I second. Okay. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? |
| 00:01:18.97 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Nay, nope. |
| 00:01:19.61 | Mayor Kelly | Okay. All right. So it's one minute apiece. Please come up. |
| 00:01:20.53 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 00:01:29.40 | Mayor Kelly | In fact, it would go a lot faster and help us if everybody would kind of line up behind It'll be. |
| 00:01:35.26 | Mary Krogan | It'll go pretty quickly. Okay. So I'm Mary Krogan. We're actually going to cede our time to only two speakers, Barbara Brown and Fred Kroll, for the remaining people here for the Marin School. |
| 00:01:36.66 | Mayor Kelly | Okay. I'm sorry. |
| 00:01:44.33 | Casey | FOR A LITTLE BIT. |
| 00:01:44.62 | Mayor Kelly | I'm not sure. Thank you. of the Marines. |
| 00:01:47.02 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 00:01:47.05 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:01:47.09 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 00:01:47.17 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:01:47.19 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 00:01:47.20 | Mayor Kelly | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:01:47.36 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 00:01:48.77 | Mary Krogan | So, |
| 00:01:48.99 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:01:49.47 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. |
| 00:01:50.34 | Mayor Kelly | There were 12 people, a minute apiece, 12 minutes, so six apiece. |
| 00:01:55.51 | Vice Mayor Leon | I just have a few. |
| 00:01:57.13 | Mayor Kelly | No, they're all ceding their time to two speakers. So we had 12 people raise their hands. |
| 00:02:02.64 | Barbara Brown | So, probably. |
| 00:02:03.64 | Mayor Kelly | So 12 minutes, so six apiece, or however you want to divide it up. |
| 00:02:03.69 | Barbara Brown | So, Okay, great. Mr. Mayor and City Council members, my name is Barbara Brown. I'm head of school at the Marin School. And I'd like to request that the item of the lease for the lease day at Ebtide be removed from the consent calendar and voted on separately. |
| 00:02:24.06 | Mayor Kelly | You'll have to make that motion in the next session. |
| 00:02:26.35 | Barbara Brown | Okay. Very good. |
| 00:02:26.51 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:02:28.13 | Barbara Brown | I'm speaking to you on behalf of the Marin School, but I'm also here concerned about the interests of New Village School, the tenants, the other tenants at 100 Ebtide and our Sausalito neighbors. I request that the City Council conduct an environmental impact report in order not to be in violation of CEQA, California Environmental Quality Act. My overarching question is Is the potential of the economic gain of the lycée's occupancy worth the significant social and environmental impacts of a school three times our size? Wouldn't it be better to have both schools in Sausalito offering pre-K through 12th grade education? In deciding whether to choose between the Marin School and the Lycée, there are several issues to consider. While it is true that Lycée Francais is also a school, it is also true that the Lycée is a different kind of school from the Marin School. It is different in two ways that have an impact on the environment. First, size is different. The Marin School has 70 students. The Lycée has somewhere between 250 and 275 students. If they grow bigger over time, then they will have an even greater impact on the environment. The lycée is also different from the Marin School in the age population that it serves. The Marin School is a high school, and the lycée is a pre-kindergarten through fifth grade school planning to become a pre-K through eighth grade school. This different age group creates more traffic, noise, and more need for parking. In particular, there's a different traffic pattern when the students are younger. At many private elementary schools, parents drop off and pick up children twice a day and often park to walk their children into the building. In terms of noise, I invite council members to come to recess at any school with 275 students to check out the noise level. Hearing children playing doesn't bother me as a school principal, but I think local senior citizens might heartily object to the volume of noise, including occasional shrieking and screaming. In addition, the lycée could require increased energy, sanitary sewers, and possibly more public services. If the lycée is allowed to place temporary modular units on the site, this could create storm drainage issues and have a negative visual impact. Finally, the presence of the Lycee would generate more use of public recreational facilities such as the park, track, ball fields, gym, and tennis courts. Relaxing at the dog park may no longer be a serene experience. In fact, the dog park might no longer exist if the Lycee is allowed to build a playground in the current dog park site. I recently heard the interesting statistic that there are more dogs than there are children in Sausalito. it would be a shame for local residents to lose their favorite dog park. Is 25,000 square feet adequate for a population of 275 students and their teachers? I have a hard time imagining it in our space. It seems more than unfortunate to displace other schools and tenants over time in order for the lycée to get the amount of space they will ultimately need. Gutting and removing, renovating, excuse me, gutting and renovating the buildings seems like a real waste of resources. It is true that several decades ago, the current site was a public middle school, but in the ensuing years, the entire nature and composition of the neighborhood and community have changed markedly. The Licea project will have a significant impact and a CEQA review is not only warranted but required. I ask that the city at least conduct an initial study to determine if an environmental impact report is needed. I believe This is a reasonable request. The Marin School is known and liked in the Sausalito community. We're good citizens. We have made $1.8 million worth of improvements at the 100 Ebtide property. We have a good relationship with the city and want to continue that. We're good tenants. We are a known quantity who follows through on requests and obligations in a timely fashion. We hope that you will decide to renew the Marin School lease and allow Sausalito's only high school to continue to transform lives. Thank you. |
| 00:07:04.08 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 00:07:37.38 | Fred Kral | Hello, Mr. Mayor and the council members. I'm Fred Kral. I'm a resident of Sausalito, and I live in the neighborhood of 100 Ebtide. I live on Lincoln Drive, which starts about two blocks from one of the entrances to the city property at 100 Ebtide. I'm also here to talk about the impact of having a much bigger school there. So I'm both a resident and I work at the Marin School. So some of the things that I care about, I guess I like numbers, is that according to my estimates, there's going to be a doubling, if this proposal goes through, a doubling of occupancy of the entire site. The would be about a quadrupling, four times as many students on the lease property. There's a doubling of the faculty and administration. The number of cars going to the lease property would go up by about a factor of five. |
| 00:08:49.38 | Fred Kral | The reason that is because the students at the Marine School, they use a lot of modes of transportation not available to fifth graders and such as carpools, which they both can use, but student drivers, walking, biking, city buses, which is not possible for most of the kids. So some of the issues are around the number of people on the site and the impact on the dog park and the field and the impact on traffic. So the main thing that I want to get across is I want to make sure that the council understands how this can impact the local businesses, local residents, and the people who use and work at the 100 Ebtite site. So I thought I would make a little graphical. presentation, if you will. |
| 00:09:58.57 | Fred Kral | So this is a, hopefully, can you see, this is a gray square rectangle, which is the entire site. These are the buildings, one through... five and then six and seven. This is the track, this is the field, and here's the dog park, and over here is the freeway. So right now, I'm going to have to put this down. |
| 00:10:34.95 | Fred Kral | in their village. Thank you. |
| 00:10:40.61 | Fred Kral | Oh, okay. The purple dots here are the new village school, who are using the site. And then these blue dots, 70 students, |
| 00:10:45.20 | Mike Monseff | the same. |
| 00:10:58.88 | Fred Kral | Blue dots are the current Marine School students. There are some common areas that are not used for school. |
| 00:11:11.59 | Fred Kral | They're not used as classrooms. And then this is the proposed tenets, or the orange dots, which are a bit denser. Let me show this. |
| 00:11:33.07 | Fred Kral | The number of kids per square foot is visibly different. So that's just a visual of that. So the other thing is, The lease expires in August, I believe, and this school has proposed, the C.E. Francais, has proposed to move to the fields before they can move in so that they can do construction. So I'm imagining these 250 kids in temporary buildings here on the field. And then let's say if I, during recess, I give them 20% more room and they get, you know, about this much space if they're all sitting like this. So what I'm thinking is the amount of use of the area is dramatically larger and the proposed occupancy of 250 students per 25,000 square foot is about 100, but if they have things like a theater or meeting rooms, it's probably going to be something like 50 square foot per child, which is 7 by 7. seven by seven feet. So that puts them somewhere between the minimum standard for a prison and the lower range of an average of US classrooms, which is at 70. So I think we have to look at how they're gonna do this and the impact on the area if they don't, if they don't manage to fit everybody into the current lease. Their expansion plans and also about their transition going from school that only gets to renovate this site in September when they want to be in session in September 2013. So I'd like you to please spend some time and I'd like to think about these things and I'd like you to make an environmental impact report and that's my statement. Thanks. |
| 00:14:02.35 | Mary Wagner | Yes. Mr. Moon, one minute. |
| 00:14:08.49 | Chris Gruel | Okay. |
| 00:14:10.18 | Mayor Kelly | Sure. You're going to get another opportunity to speak because this is going to obviously come off of the consent. |
| 00:14:12.91 | Chris Gruel | Sure. Could I split my time with Yeah. Okay. So my name is Chris Gruul. I'm a parent and board member at the Lyse Francais de la Perouse, and I'm half the thousand families, of which 40 live and work in Sausalito. We are excited to join your community, and we think we can be good long-term partners. We've been in our current location, a very dense residential neighborhood, for over 25 years, have not experienced any difficulties with the neighbors around parking and traffic and noise. That was described earlier, and I'm here to answer any questions now or later in the evening, and I'll give the rest of my time to Ray Buddy, who can briefly speak about the environmental impact. Thank you. |
| 00:15:01.63 | Ray Budde | Thank you, Mayor and Mayor of Council. Great buddy representing the Lisset-Français. I'll just be real brief before your closed session. I mean, there are two issues that are being mixed up here. And one is your position as a governing body of the city where you might have interest in issues involving environmental impact when it comes to permitting type issues. And then you have an entirely different issue that we're dealing with here first and foremost, and that is your position as a landlord when you're leasing property. |
| 00:15:03.80 | Chris Gruel | Great, buddy. |
| 00:15:31.21 | Ray Budde | So the two will both come into play at some time because the school might need a use permit. If there ever were portables, which we think is highly unusual or highly doubtful, there might be a conditional use permit needed, something of that nature, in which case the a function would come into play. But as a landlord, when you're making a decision to lease to a tenant, The thing that I think you should bear in mind is that you have far more control over what goes on on that site. I mean, a tenant doesn't want to get evicted. A tenant doesn't want to have noise problems. They don't want to be hearing from the landlord that they're causing any kind of issues on the site or anything of that nature. They've got to obey the rules and the regulations. which are far more than what you might see in a situation where Someone else is the landlord and the tenant and all you're doing is setting some restrictions or use permit regulations. So you're in a really strong position here in terms of the issues that have been raised. And as a landlord you have control as a landlord and all these issues that have been raised here today, you have the ability in the context of the landlord-tenant relationship to take care of them and address them. And have a lot more control over them than you ever would as a city in a typical permitting situation. Thank you. |
| 00:16:42.56 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:16:42.91 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 00:16:43.55 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. All right. At this point, we're going to adjourn into closed session, and we'll be out at hopefully 7 o'clock. |
| 00:17:53.05 | Steve Devine | If I like it. |
| 00:18:01.97 | Mayor Kelly | Okay, I'd like to call the meeting to order. Let's call the City Council meeting to order, please. Debbie, would you call the roll? |
| 00:18:16.08 | Debbie | Council member Ford. THE END OF THE END OF THE Councilmember Piper. |
| 00:18:23.02 | Councilmember Ford | here. |
| 00:18:23.29 | Debbie | you Councilmember Weiner. |
| 00:18:25.88 | Vice Mayor Leon | Mr. President. Thank you. |
| 00:18:26.36 | Debbie | Vice Mayor Leon. |
| 00:18:27.84 | Vice Mayor Leon | Yeah. |
| 00:18:27.91 | Debbie | Mayor Kelly. |
| 00:18:28.82 | Mayor Kelly | here. Keith Stone King, would you do the Pledge of Allegiance? |
| 00:18:35.59 | Keith Stone King | Thank you. |
| 00:18:35.65 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | my question. |
| 00:18:36.48 | Keith Stone King | Thank you. |
| 00:18:36.62 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 00:18:36.65 | Keith Stone King | . |
| 00:18:37.00 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | . |
| 00:18:37.09 | Mayor Kelly | . |
| 00:18:37.36 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Ladies and gentlemen, I would you speak with me. Thank you. you |
| 00:18:42.98 | Casey | Congratulations to the flag of the United States. |
| 00:18:46.93 | Vice Mayor Leon | you Amen. |
| 00:18:47.08 | Casey | Thanks, Jason. Thanks. |
| 00:18:47.43 | Vice Mayor Leon | Go. Thank you. All right. I'm not sure. Thank you. |
| 00:18:48.02 | Casey | Yes. |
| 00:18:48.71 | Vice Mayor Leon | and to the republic for which it stands, One nation. Good job. It is possible. Thank you. liberty and justice for all. |
| 00:18:57.59 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you, Casey. . |
| 00:19:00.31 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 00:19:00.34 | Mayor Kelly | Hey. All right, the city council considered The closed session items and no actions were taken, so we will... Move on to public comment on closed session items. |
| 00:19:22.73 | Mayor Kelly | None. Well, okay, we're going to talk about the items that are on the consent calendar, and there's already been a request to remove one of the items from the consent calendar, so I'd like to have any discussion about that item underneath that item as a regular agenda item. Okay. |
| 00:19:44.42 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 00:19:45.68 | Mayor Kelly | Otherwise, we have to do it twice. All right. Do we have an approval of the agenda? |
| 00:19:53.80 | Unknown (Councilmember) | I'm, |
| 00:19:54.14 | Mayor Kelly | to the next episode. |
| 00:19:54.28 | Unknown (Councilmember) | that we approve the agenda. |
| 00:19:55.67 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:19:55.69 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 00:19:56.08 | Vice Mayor Leon | I'll second. |
| 00:19:57.06 | Mayor Kelly | All in favor? AYE. ALL RIGHT. WE MOVE TO SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS. |
| 00:19:58.00 | Vice Mayor Leon | Bye. |
| 00:20:01.58 | Mayor Kelly | And there's a presentation to the Sausalito Police Department of the Challenge Award, California Highway Patrol to Chief of Police. |
| 00:20:09.60 | Adam Politzer | Mr. Mayor, we're going to move that item to May 15th, I believe, because of the Occupy Movement and May Day events Today the CHP was very busy and unfortunately they couldn't join us this evening. |
| 00:20:21.09 | Mayor Kelly | All right, so moved then to the 15th agenda, May 15th. All right, then item B is the Marin County Solid Waste and Zero Waste. Marin, Steve Devine. |
| 00:20:33.12 | Steve Devine | Okay, thank you, Mr. Mayor and members of the council. It's great to spend some time here in beautiful Sausalito. And I also wanted to thank your city manager and joint powers authority representative for extending the invitation to meet with you tonight. I'm Steve Devine, the program manager for the Marin County Hazardous and Solid Waste Joint Powers Authority. And I also work for the county of Marin. I've been in the position for a bit under a year, but have worked in recycling and solid waste for over 20 years and grew up in Marin. So it's nice to work in a community that I'm already familiar with. Just to give you a bit of an overview here and keep the presentation brief, this pie chart just depicts the typical composition of solid waste in Marin County. And, you know, why do we care about all this? Well, solid waste that is landfilled can contribute to greenhouse gases emissions, prevent opportunities for reuse and recycling, creates the risks for leaking landfills, and generally results in the requirement to use more energy to source raw materials than if they were sourced, reduced, or recycled. The pie chart here shows that two very recyclable and source-reducible candidates are paper and food waste. So we're very excited to see that you've just taken action on expanding your food waste and organics program, program, which will go a long way to helping reduce waste, not just here in Sausalito, but also in the area. So we're very excited to see that you've just taken action on expanding your food waste and organics program, which will go a long way to helping reduce waste, not just here in Sausalito, but also in the county. As far as oversight goes in Marin County, it's a complicated county when it comes to solid waste implementation. There are over 25 franchise agreements between six different haulers, in addition to the ability for individuals to self-haul waste to transfer stations or landfills. Just a quick, another little hit on your recycling or your food waste and food scraps program. About 22% of the typical residential waste stream is food scraps, nearly a quarter of what goes into a lot of folks' garbage cans. And so turning that material into compost and mulch is going to do a great bit of benefit to the county. And so we're very excited about that program. It's one of the zero waste programs that we've outlined at the JPA as being essential to getting to our zero waste goals. |
| 00:22:41.45 | Mike Monseff | Bye. |
| 00:22:50.08 | Steve Devine | As far as oversight goes, in the state of California, in the bigger picture here, the Department of Resource Recycling and Recovery, is in charge of solid waste regulation in the state. The short name for the agency is CalRecycles. and as authority over recycling, waste reduction, and product reuse in the state. The agency was formed back in, or reformed in 1989 under AB 939, which is the landmark solid waste bill, which really kicked off waste reduction in California by requiring the counties reduce their waste going to landfill by 50%. Another agency that plays an important role in waste in California is the Department of Toxic Substances Control. They handle most of the hazardous waste issues related to residential waste production and they also deal with small quantity generators. So some of the businesses that you have in your community would also fall under their Um. here. In Marin County, the Community Development Agency is separate from Public Works, and they are responsible for permitting waste disposal facilities in the county. So they oversee and inspect the landfill, large recycling facilities, such as the Marin Sanitary Operation over on Jacoby Street. And they also oversee composting operations, and there's numerous composting facilities within the county. The Public Works Waste Management Division is responsible for the residential and commercial solid waste franchising in the unincorporated areas of most of the county. Thank you. We're also responsible for operating the CUPA, which is the Certified Unified Program Agency which is a long name, but basically that means we're responsible for making sure that the underground storage tanks that you would find at your gas stations and above ground storage tanks are well kept and don't leak. And the county also provides the staff to the JPA. Some of the other programs that the county runs are participation in some regional groups, including the ABAG Hazardous Materials Allocation Committee. We operate the county's waste battery recycling program. We do tire amnesty days, which are usually funded by the state, maybe on an every other year basis. We provide a green builder's guide. We do some grant management for certain programs that make sense for the county to run versus the JPA. |
| 00:25:20.18 | Casey | Apparently. |
| 00:25:20.69 | Steve Devine | Thank you. |
| 00:25:24.76 | Steve Devine | The Joint Powers Agency in its current incarnation was formed back in 1996 and was recognized as a regional agency by the state in 1997. And it's a way to help minimize administrative oversight to get towards countywide goals by working cooperatively amongst the cities and the county. The role and membership in the JPA is each of the cities and towns, Belvedere, Corte Madera, Fairfax, everybody in Marin County, and also includes the county of Marin as a member. Each jurisdiction selects its own representative to serve on the board, which is basically right now the city managers. There's an executive committee comprised of five JPA board members There's also an advisory body to the agency, which is the AB 939, the local task force group. on a semi-regular basis and provide some advice to the agency. And as I mentioned before, the staff is provided by a contract with the county. Some of the responsibilities that the JPA has are tracking waste diversion for the county. So that's something so that each city doesn't have to do that on its own, which can get very tedious when you're trying to split tracking waste volumes between different waste haulers and down to the city level. It can get pretty complicated. We provide administrative support to the JPA board. are just kicking off our zerowastemerin.org website, which is kind of a new program we're getting on running and we'll tell you a little bit more about that. and a few other programs. One thing I'll touch on is our bulb and battery program. and reusable bag campaign. We've got some reusable bags here for you if you haven't already got one of these. If your trunk of your car is hopefully full of them. But... We'd like you to take advantage of those. The Bulb and Battery Program is something that's only been around for about two years, but it's been very successful. We have a partnership here with the Water Street Hardware Store in Sausalito. and they've been a great participant in the program. And just in two years, just to give you an idea of what some of these programs can do, we've already recycled 22 miles of fluorescent tubes, almost 10,000 compact fluorescent bulbs, and over 11 tons of household batteries. And that's in addition to the materials that come into the household hazardous waste facilities in Novato and San Rafael. |
| 00:27:48.77 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 00:27:48.78 | Casey | Nice. |
| 00:27:52.04 | Steve Devine | Another interesting program that you may or not be aware of, but it's very important being here so close to the bay, and also with different health issues is the county-run pharmaceutical and sharps disposal program. So the JPA provides funding to the Marin Community Development Agency to operate this program. There's about 25 different sites in the county where you can drop off either the prescription drugs or syringes. It's a good program in the sense that it can help with the garbage haulers and make sure that their workers don't get needle sticks from of. diabetic needles and things of that nature. And then more and more folks are becoming aware of the dangers of pharmaceuticals getting into the waterways and the different problems that that can result in. Wastewater treatment plants can do a lot to clean up water, but the sophistication of the chemicals and pharmaceuticals is just beyond their capabilities. So that's kind of where we've been, what we have been doing. And so there's some of the new things that are coming on the horizon is basically this concept of zero waste. And so the goal right now that has been established by the Joint Powers Agency and we're trying to get each city to adopt a zero waste resolution is 80% diversion by 2012 and zero waste by 2025. And that really probably means about 94, 95% waste diversion. The idea is to ensure their resources are used to their highest potential. Reducing upstream waste generation, and that's kind of a weird concept, but what we're trying to get happen there is for producers of products to do something called extended producer responsibility. And that means that companies that are manufacturing products really take responsibility from their products from cradle to grave, that they package the products in recyclable materials, reduce the packaging when possible, and then make sure that those products are recyclable at the end of their life by properly labeling the different components so we know what we can do with these materials and have take back programs if it's something that's really complicated that maybe only that company can deal with |
| 00:29:10.86 | Mike Monseff | there. Absolutely. |
| 00:30:00.53 | Steve Devine | I've highlighted a few of these things in red just for your special attention because your city manager asked, well, what are some of the things that are going on in the county and some of the other cities that you might want to be able to – might want to try to take advantage of to further things here in Sausalito? You're already doing a lot, but there's always – there can be done more things that could be done. And we have a zero waste feasibility study that we conducted back in 2010, and that started getting implemented in 2011. So there's also a zero waste feasibility study that we conducted back in 2010, and that started getting implemented in 2011. And so there's also a zero waste toolkit. Those are both available on our website. And basically what it is is like a handbook for each of the cities in the county to provide model language for franchises, model language for ordinances and things like that that you can look to to help your city further reach zero waste goals. So something like a model C&D construction and demolition recycling ordinance, and I think you already have one on the books, but I think there's an opportunity to update that to some more current language. And we've just gone through a process where we've visited numerous construction and demolition debris recycling facilities and certified them so you can make sure that when |
| 00:30:16.67 | Casey | All right. |
| 00:30:28.05 | Todd Teachout | it. |
| 00:31:08.43 | Steve Devine | your hauler or construction is going on in town that they're sending these materials to facilities that can actually recycle those leftover materials. There's also a grant program that's run by the JPA and the funding for that comes as part of the total fees that are paid by the residents and businesses in Marin County. And that's something that Sausalito in the first year, and several cities did this. There's only so much money available, so it made sense for the city to probably skip the first year. And now in the second year of grant availability, you can sort of double down your money and have the better opportunity to implement some programs. And so we can help you with some ideas there, whether you want to reimburse staff time for developing ordinances. You could buy recycling containers if you see need for that in your commercial districts. Or if you want to buy special event recycling bins so that when there's an event at one of the city festivals, there's some additional recycling services available. Getting back to this idea of Zero Waste Marin, JPA is kicking off an outreach campaign, which is going to be something that you can find on the cable television networks in the county and also online through targeted advertisements. And so what we're trying to do is drive people to visit the zerowastemarin.org website and sign up for various zero waste challenges to do something concrete to reduce waste, to try to give up disposable water bottles in lieu of reusable bottles, for various zero waste challenges, to do something concrete to reduce waste, to try to give up disposable water bottles in lieu of reusable bottles, get start using reusable towels as opposed to paper towels and things like that. So there's concrete things that people can do to reduce waste. And we're also going to be placing some ads on some of the bus shelters in the county so you should start seeing those in the next month or two. So please look for those. Sign up for the challenges. We'll work with your city to try to put some links on your website so that make it easy for people to find this information. Just a few more things here. Coming attractions, AB 341 is a new law that was signed by the governor last year. And it has increased the goal from 50% to 75%. It's now a statewide goal. to get the 75% diversion. by 2020. And two things that also come up a lot sooner are, as of July 1st, apartment complexes of five units or more must have a recycling program. And commercial establishments generating four cubic yards or more of waste per week will need to recycle. And so working with your hauler, I know Greg Christie here is here from Bay Cities, And they can run reports and identify the customers that might need to be targeted to do some of those programs. Sometimes, like working with an apartment complex can get tricky because you've got off-site managers. So there's a lot of hand-holding there. It's not as easy as just dropping off the carts and the flyer at a typical single-family home. But it is an underserved community, and we hope that we can make some progress there. Another recommendation would be to go ahead and try to get your zero waste grant program for this year. As I mentioned, some programs you might want to undertake are things like education. We work with some different vendors that go out to the schools. We can give you some names of those. entities that do some school programs, public recycling receptacles, implementing new ordinances, things like that. There's a discussion going on at the JPA right now on whether or not to try to coordinate a project to have some of the cities work cooperatively to develop a plastic bag ban environmental review. And as you may know, there's been a lot of legal activity taken against jurisdictions that have implemented plastic bag bans. And so the idea there would be to basically hire one company, a consultant that's experienced in this, and so maybe five, six, seven, eight of the cities that don't have an ordinance in Marin County could rely upon one environmental review sort of off the shelf as backup for trying to go forward with one of those bans. The county has gone ahead and implemented its bag ban. and it's also under appeal. Fairfax has a ban bag in place, but that was a voter-approved activity, and so that's worked out well for them as far as dodging some of the legal problems. Lastly, just as I mentioned before, it's a little bit tricky, but when things come up, we'll try to keep you in the loop on this if we see opportunities for your body to take action on this concept of extended producer responsibility where |
| 00:35:47.93 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 00:35:48.03 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 00:35:56.47 | Steve Devine | buying things that you just, you know, it's a thousand different parts to it and packaging and it's just ridiculous and there's no way to recycle these things. And we need to take action at state, federal level or writing to these manufacturers to try to get them to do better so that we can do better ourselves. |
| 00:36:10.51 | Casey | that. |
| 00:36:14.95 | Steve Devine | And with that, I'd be happy to try to take any questions for you. I've got my email address up here and phone number. And thank you for your time. Thank you. |
| 00:36:22.07 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. Any questions? Mr. Mayor, if I can just add two seconds here. I was going to introduce Steve, but I thought that we'd let him |
| 00:36:23.50 | Mayor Kelly | Mr. Mayor. |
| 00:36:23.89 | Steve Devine | Bye. |
| 00:36:31.87 | Adam Politzer | go through the program first off. Very appreciative of the work that Steve does and the rest of the staff. that's involved with the Zero Waste Program and the JPA working with the city managers. but also we thought it was important that he'd come and give you an overview because this was a big program. and a lot of work has gone from the state level all the way down to the county and now into local agencies And as you all know, our Sustainability Commission embraces this and this is things that they have been working with the county and looking at the future next projects that they wanted to undertake. So I thought tonight was a good way to kind of give everyone the umbrella. also share that there is money which is available for the Sustainability Commission to come back to the Council and propose programs on how to spend that money and apply for the grants and then again continuing to work with Bay Cities to implement programs that divert waste from the dumps, from the landfills and so these opportunities This was really just an introduction. and then now they give the sustainability commission and then we have a green team All of you know Andy Davidson, our engineer, him and Lillie Shinseng and David Weatherford have been the green team that have worked with the sustainability commission so that they have some staff that are also working with common goals. So I think again with the County Sustainability Commission and staff, There's really some great opportunities in the near future. So we wanted you to at least see what the countywide program was and who's involved and what are some of the things that the county's doing and then how to bring that down to the local level. |
| 00:38:12.74 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. Hmm. Anybody on the council care to to ask a question. |
| 00:38:16.72 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah, just two questions based on your presentation. What's the current diversion rate countywide |
| 00:38:21.41 | Steve Devine | 74% is the last reported. Thank you. |
| 00:38:23.92 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Right. Okay, and as far as the, there used to be another term of art for the producer responsibility. I can't remember what it is where, you know, like in Germany where you sent, it goes back through the retailer up through the chain, but for more like sort of not necessarily toxic, more troublesome things like paints or pharmaceuticals. Is there anything moving along those lines in the state or at local level? |
| 00:38:42.15 | Casey | Right. |
| 00:38:42.44 | Steve Devine | Thank you. |
| 00:38:47.45 | Steve Devine | Yeah, in fact, well, the California Product Stewardship Council is probably the nonprofit that's most on top of those things. And the newest example of an EPR program is called the Paint Care Program. And so that's something that's already partly in effect, wherein when you are now buying a quart or a gallon of paint, you're paying sort of an advanced disposal fee. I think it's 50 cents for the quart, a dollar for the gallon. |
| 00:39:13.06 | Casey | All right. |
| 00:39:13.42 | Steve Devine | It's going into a fund that the industry is then working with a specially formed nonprofit to then subsidize the paint recycling costs that are incurred at facilities like the household hazardous waste facilities. So actually in our current upcoming JPA budget, we've actually anticipated not a full year, but a partial year's cost savings due to that program because basically basically you'll just segregate the latex paint and instead of having to pay the hazardous waste hauler to take that away, they'll take it away for free and the cost will be borne by the paint care program. |
| 00:39:49.99 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | you Thank you. |
| 00:39:51.44 | Steve Devine | All right, I guess. |
| 00:39:51.98 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | a lot of questions, but I don't know if I should take up people's time, because it's great. Thank you for all your hard work. |
| 00:39:53.11 | Steve Devine | Thank you. |
| 00:39:53.19 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:39:53.33 | Steve Devine | Thank you. |
| 00:39:56.97 | Mayor Kelly | Good. Any other questions, comments? Thank you very much, Steve. Okay, thank you. I appreciate it. |
| 00:40:00.23 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Okay, thank you. |
| 00:40:01.02 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 00:40:03.59 | Mayor Kelly | All right, now we're moving on to public communications. And this is the time for the Council to hear from citizens regarding matters that are not on the agenda. And I have two names here. Babette McDougall. |
| 00:40:26.10 | Councilmember Ford | Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, ladies and gentlemen. I'm here to just to let you know that on Monday evening, there will be a citizens forum at the Saucido Cruising Club, 7 to 9 p.m. to discuss the fire annexation issue. And I wanted to come down and mention that because June 5 is the vote. Absentee ballots go out next week. I'm an absentee ballot voter myself. And as I am told, to date there is still no scheduled debate. And this concerns me, and I know that there are rumors that both sides are engaged in discussions But in fact, that's not true, because I called just before coming down here, and asked again, have you been contacted, have you been contacted? and both sides have still not been contacted, so it's still just a rumor, and my fear is that the day will come for the vote and citizens will still not hear all sides of the issue And I personally haven't made up my mind yet, so I'd like to hear all sides of the issue. So I just want to say that it's an open event. And we would like everyone to come with their questions and hopefully... All will come. Hopefully you all will come too. Any questions? |
| 00:41:50.27 | Mayor Kelly | We really can't respond because it's not on the agenda, but thank you very much for your comment. |
| 00:41:54.69 | Councilmember Ford | All right, and thanks for letting me have this time this evening. Certainly. |
| 00:41:57.04 | Mayor Kelly | Certainly. |
| 00:41:57.59 | Councilmember Ford | Good evening. |
| 00:41:59.20 | Mayor Kelly | All right, and then Mike Monseff. |
| 00:42:10.05 | Mike Monseff | Hi, I'm Mike Monsa, 211 Ford Street. Three items I want to talk to you about. One is the, I saw the other day, Some of the people from the city, they were looking at Excelsior under the stair for the lateral, sewer lateral from Excelsior Lane. And obviously we have a problem of the surface water on that street. And I try and try to work it out. This water is like a river when you have a rain that's coming. I think Mr. Jonathan Goodman is very well aware of it. And I know you're going to dig a ditch or something for the sewer lateral connection. I talked to the owners, we are willing to participate in the cost to get the, resolve this problem because you've got such a small drainage for surface, this four inch, which I provided previously, we have to go to six inch or something to get this water out of there. And it's damage to the building because we're going to do something in the back, ultimately it's going to hurt us. So I don't want to get later on attorneys and all that to come in. The other issue is that I want to talk to you is about sandwiched pork. We have to understand certain area in Sausalito, |
| 00:42:59.83 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:43:25.63 | Mike Monseff | because to draw some people out there and because to survive, they need some kind of attention. Now, obviously, some of the tenant that I control over there, they asked me about, well, nobody's coming up this week and we have a sandwich roast. I said, yes, I did say it, put it out there. Ultimately, even though it's not permitted by your ordinance, I'd like you to take a look at it. And these people, they need to survive. They need to bring some people up. Whether it's like that or you have a sign someplace to say there's more store up there, you have to come step forward this body to encourage people walk up the street into Princess. The other issue is that I want to talk to you is about the bathroom downstairs, I mean in downtown. It is embarrassing the bathrooms we have. I think Councilman Herb is always there, he's trying to make sure that something happened. You approve of the nice bathroom, let's expedite that. I don't know why it's holding it out. It was supposed to go to bedding in April. I don't see anything happening and I'd like to encourage you, please expedite this one. We need that as soon as possible. It's putting a lot of pressure on the merchant downtown. Thank you. |
| 00:44:49.75 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you, Mike. |
| 00:44:53.01 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 00:44:53.91 | Mayor Kelly | All right. Anyone else care to address the Council on matters not on the agenda? All right, seeing none, we'll move on to action minutes of the previous meetings. We have four. Does anyone here have any corrections or changes to any of those? |
| 00:45:09.46 | Unknown (Councilmember) | And, Mr. Mayor? |
| 00:45:10.83 | Mayor Kelly | Mm-hmm. |
| 00:45:10.86 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. I have a question actually with, let me get to the, I think it's minutes for 327.12. It was my understanding, and, you know, I could be wrong about this because I'm going on my memory, but I thought that there was a motion that either I or Council Member Ford made regarding holding the, the ballot in November instead of June. And it was voted on and it failed. But I mean, is that correct? Or is my short-term memory foggy on that? |
| 00:45:56.97 | Debbie | Thank you. you |
| 00:45:59.50 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Okay, so that would be my only comment on that. It was more of a question, and I have comments on two of the others, but that's all for March 9th. |
| 00:46:03.18 | Debbie | more of a |
| 00:46:10.97 | Mayor Kelly | Well, which ones do you want to come back? |
| 00:46:13.08 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Oh, well, OK, my other comment would be on the Uh, let's see. the April 17th. I believe I mentioned item 6E, and it's okay if we can't do this, but just the context of my no vote for SB 973 was the Sierra Club's opposition to it. And as I noticed, we do have some comments from other council members. I was wondering if we could include that for context for 6E. |
| 00:47:02.75 | Mayor Kelly | What did you say? |
| 00:47:04.59 | Unknown (Councilmember) | I said that the Sierra Club was opposed to SB 973, and that was the reason I had concerns about it. Mm-hmm. |
| 00:47:15.34 | Unknown (Councilmember) | you I recall that. I had no objection. |
| 00:47:18.14 | Mayor Kelly | Yeah, I just hate to have to go back and have to redo these. It's in the, it's, do you care, Tib? |
| 00:47:18.15 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 00:47:25.75 | Mayor Kelly | Okay, she'll put it in. These are just supposed to be, you know, |
| 00:47:28.87 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 00:47:32.65 | Mayor Kelly | short minutes and then the tape is always available to everybody to watch the entire thing and it's easily indexed and so on so that's the purpose. |
| 00:47:34.74 | Mike Monseff | Yeah, I understand. |
| 00:47:42.94 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Um... Yes, there was a comment, I believe, again on the 9th, and I could be wrong, but it was where I, under future agenda items, it wasn't the 9th, where I mentioned under future agenda items to implement the recommendations that the resident group had made regarding decorum on the council, specifically a parliamentarian. And so I do recall providing the context of that to the future agenda item. So that would be my only other comment. |
| 00:48:21.74 | Mary Wagner | Mr. Mayor, I apologize. I missed the date of that meeting. |
| 00:48:22.36 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yeah. |
| 00:48:22.58 | Mayor Kelly | I'm going to go. |
| 00:48:22.92 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 00:48:24.18 | Mayor Kelly | March 19th. |
| 00:48:25.65 | Unknown (Councilmember) | I don't think it was March 9th, actually. I thought it was, but I'm looking at this and |
| 00:48:25.69 | Mary Wagner | I don't think it was. |
| 00:48:27.17 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:48:27.27 | Mary Wagner | Oh, okay. Not your session. |
| 00:48:34.21 | Debbie | I think that is in one of the sets of minutes, is that you had requested the Parliamentarian attend the meeting. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, well specifically, |
| 00:48:41.14 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. |
| 00:48:42.01 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yeah, well, specifically it's in 7B, item 327-12, the date, and it says Council Member Pfeiffer requested discussion on council decorum and the need to have a parliamentarian present during a meeting, but specifically I referenced the recommendation of the resident group is my addition to that. |
| 00:48:59.39 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yes. my addition to that. I don't think any of us have seen written recommendations from that group. So whatever you discussed with them is not necessarily what was discussed individually with each other council person. |
| 00:49:09.53 | Unknown (Councilmember) | It was an email they sent to all council members. |
| 00:49:13.88 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | I don't recall that. It may have existed, but I don't recall it. So if you want to dig it up, then we can go through it. |
| 00:49:19.28 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Okay, I can do that. Thank you. |
| 00:49:23.26 | Mayor Kelly | All right. It seems to me we can approve the, which one, which date was that? You don't know? |
| 00:49:29.98 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Oh, that was 3-27-12. |
| 00:49:34.47 | Mayor Kelly | All right, so you've changed to 327-12, 417-12, and 39-12. Is that correct? |
| 00:49:34.79 | Unknown (Councilmember) | you have changed |
| 00:49:40.07 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. Yeah, it was a check for 3912 because I believe I made a motion regarding pushing the, and I'm not sure that that was my recollection. |
| 00:49:48.12 | Debbie | that was my recollection. Right. Do you want to hold those, hold the adoption of the 9th to verify that motion? |
| 00:49:55.88 | Mayor Kelly | Why don't we just approve it subject to your either verifying or not verifying and putting it in and saying. I'm trying to make that. Okay. Can we do that? All right. Can we approve all four sets of these and subject to the recommendations by Councilmember |
| 00:49:59.70 | Debbie | I'm trying like that. |
| 00:50:10.46 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:50:10.50 | Unknown (Councilmember) | So moved. |
| 00:50:12.00 | Mayor Kelly | All in favor? Thank you. |
| 00:50:12.99 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Aye. |
| 00:50:13.45 | Mayor Kelly | Aye. Aye. Okay, so passed. Anybody else against? |
| 00:50:14.09 | Debbie | I'm not. |
| 00:50:17.20 | Mayor Kelly | All right, now we're to the consent calendar, and we've already had one request to remove an item from the consent calendar in the closed session comment period, public comment period, and that would be item number C, 4C. So I'd like to put 4C as the first business item, and then everythingES DOWN ONE LETTER, B, C, D, E. ANY OTHER MATTERS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR THAT ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC OR ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS? |
| 00:50:42.74 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 00:50:54.36 | Mayor Kelly | All right, seeing none that I'd like to... |
| 00:50:54.61 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Seeing none that I'd like to... D, the horizon. |
| 00:50:57.14 | Mayor Kelly | Okay. You want to pull that? |
| 00:50:59.43 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah, he used to get the end of the meeting. |
| 00:51:01.44 | Mayor Kelly | All right, let's make that 6F. |
| 00:51:09.93 | Mayor Kelly | Okay. All right, that leaves us with A, B, A and B. Okay, so motion please. |
| 00:51:24.09 | Vice Mayor Leon | Yeah, so moved. Approval. |
| 00:51:27.01 | Mayor Kelly | in favor? |
| 00:51:27.89 | Vice Mayor Leon | I second. |
| 00:51:28.05 | Mayor Kelly | I'll second. I guess I need a second. |
| 00:51:29.96 | Unknown (Councilmember) | a second. |
| 00:51:31.21 | Mayor Kelly | Linda seconds, all in favor, aye. |
| 00:51:33.57 | Vice Mayor Leon | And I think before on the minutes, I don't think you got a second. |
| 00:51:34.86 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:51:37.10 | Vice Mayor Leon | before that either. Did I miss that? Yeah. |
| 00:51:39.55 | Mayor Kelly | Mr. President. Thank you. |
| 00:51:43.61 | Vice Mayor Leon | Which one? |
| 00:51:44.20 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 00:51:44.22 | Unknown (Councilmember) | I'll second it. |
| 00:51:44.27 | Mayor Kelly | I'll second it. On the menu? I'll second. I'll second. I'll second it. |
| 00:51:44.98 | Casey | Wait a minute. |
| 00:51:45.54 | Unknown (Councilmember) | I'll second. |
| 00:51:47.21 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 00:51:47.26 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 00:51:47.29 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 00:51:47.38 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 00:51:47.76 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 00:51:47.83 | Casey | I'm not. |
| 00:51:49.39 | Mayor Kelly | All right, number five, public hearings. We have none. And number six, business items. The first item will be to adopt a resolution approving the Fourth Amendment to the lease. I'm sorry, to adopt a resolution approving the lease with Lacie Francais at MLK Properties. |
| 00:52:06.63 | Charlie Francis | Evening Mr. Mayor, members of the council. My name is Charlie Francis. I'm the director of administrative services. And the agenda item before you tonight is approval of a lease with the Cé-Francés. And for a little bit of brief history, we're talking about the facilities at the MLK facility and specifically the buildings that are occupied by the current tenant, the Marin School. This is an aerial view where over here we have the highway and up over here we have the dog park and here's the tennis courts and gymnasium. And so we get a kind of a general orientation. For another picture we're talking specifically about part of building five, all of building four and parts of building three. And we have diagrams of each of those. But just to give a little history on the Marin School lease, the original term was September 1, 2003 through August 31, 2008. And the Second Amendment to the lease extended the term to August 31, 2013. So what we have is a lease that exists right now that is due to expire on August 31st of 2013. The original rent was $2.85 a square foot for certain pieces of the buildings and $2.23 for other sections of the buildings. The Fourth Amendment to the lease provided a $2,958.53 per month rent credit to the total amount that was paid under the lease. And that was for certain infrastructure improvements that the City Council determined were of benefit to the city that were constructed by the Marin School. Last year in May, I believe it was May, the Fifth Amendment was made to the lease. The Marin School, because of financial and operating difficulties, requested a rent reduction. So the rent went from $2.85 to $1.85 for the main parts, $1.25 for the storage areas. And plus a continuation of the $2,958 per month rent credit and suspension of the annual rent escalator that was in the lease. And this year, a year before the lease was due to expire, the Marin School, because of continuing financial difficulties, came to the city and presented, after a series of discussions, a letter of intent to enter into a lease for $1.75 for the main portions and $1.15 for the remaining portions plus a continuation of the fourth rent credit. I know that's a little wordy so let's look at a picture of what that looked like. The original rent at $2.85 and $2.23 for these suites at these square footage generated this amount or $50,311.39 per month for annual cost of $603,736. The Oh. The new rates of $1.85 Uh, generated. 400. Oh, I'm sorry. credit. $456 is what it went down to after applying that the $1.85 and then the lease credit until we finally got to what's being asked for today is $1.75 or $396. And I point that out is that the annual revenue used to be $603,000 revenue to the city and it's being proposed to come down to $396,000 a year until the termination of the lease. So at that point the city went out and said what kind of what is the market value of the facility today and we entered into a discussion with Le C. Francais who has come forward with a lease proposal to the city for a 20 yearyear lease with five-year options, all the space at $2.25 per square foot and an annual rent escalator of not less than 3 or more than 7%. So if the city were to grant this kind of a rent credit, we'd go from $396,000 in the year 2013 to 2014 to an annual rent of $560,763, which brings us pretty close back to the $603,000 where we were several years ago. |
| 00:56:41.41 | Charlie Francis | We also did a financial impact on the city and a risk analysis of the two prospective tenants. Just like any landlord you want to say well here's the terms and conditions and what's the capacity of the tenant to be able to make those payments. And first I want to point out that $160,000 difference between what was being proposed and what could be generated with the Le Cé Francais would bring our annual rents from the facilities back in line to our historical averages. I didn't go through the complete analysis of here, but at these rents, about $200,000 less than what we have been anticipating in the past, where the city is not able to, after its net operating income, it's not able to meet all of its debt service obligations. It does meet the ones that are contractually required until the lease purchase to the school and the capital improvement lease with West America Bank. But we also have a general fund operating loan on the property, and those payments would have to be deferred in these years because the revenue isn't there to make those payments. In terms of credit risk, Marin School has a historical projected annual operating losses. That means their operating income is less than their operating expenses. So how did they make it up? They're heavily dependent on non-operating revenue. In other words, donations. When we compare that business model to the Licee Francais, we find historic and projected annual operating gains and completely independent from operating the school is independent from any non-operating revenue that they do receive. And they do receive some, but they don't rely on it in order to stay in business. So from that economic review, from the financial impact review and from a go forward basis. City staff is recommending that the city council enter into a lease effective September 1st 2013. Effective May 1st with a delivery date of September 1st 2013. Any questions? |
| 00:58:46.74 | Mayor Kelly | Okay, questions from the council? |
| 00:58:50.05 | Mary Wagner | Mr. Mayor, if I may, just one point of clarification, which I think is what Charlie said, but the term is actually five years, and there are three options to extend each for a period of five years, which brings you to the total potential lease term of 20 years. Right. Sorry. Thank you, Mary Kay. |
| 00:58:56.71 | Unknown (Councilmember) | with. |
| 00:58:57.03 | Charlie Francis | Yeah. |
| 00:58:57.05 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 00:58:57.08 | Charlie Francis | three options to extend each verb. |
| 00:59:02.13 | Mayor Kelly | Right. |
| 00:59:02.41 | Charlie Francis | Thank you. |
| 00:59:06.11 | Mayor Kelly | So any questions, no questions? No. All right. I'd like to open it up for public comment, and I've got some cards here, so we'll start with those. Barbara Brown. And each person will have three minutes. you |
| 00:59:22.97 | Barbara Brown | Mayor Kelly, City Council members, my name is Barbara Brown. I'm head of school of the Marin School. And I want to thank you very much for leasing us the property for the last nine years. We love it here and we've made it our home. We think it's a perfect environment for the Marin School. I'd like to say a particular word of thanks to Adam Pulitzer and Charlie Francis who've been really terrific in working with us on the renegotiation process. I would like to respond to what Charlie was saying, that you can look at the finances and say, okay, it's more likely for a school that has income coming in from tuition to be more likely to pay than a school that gets the income from donations. But I guess my point is, does it really matter where it's coming from if they were able to make the payments? And we've been able to make the payments for nine years and we have a plan going forward for how to be able to pay our bills and we're being extremely realistic about how many students we're bringing in. We really are turning around things right now in terms of our marketing and our admissions and doing that during the time of economic downturn shows that we really can do it. I'd like to reiterate my request that I made earlier in the evening for an environmental impact report or at least an initial study to see if an environmental impact report is needed based on the lycée's size and school population. During this process of renegotiating the lease, I've heard people say, Business is business. meaning that it's an economic decision. But I wonder if you factored into your economic analysis the cost of CEQA compliance, if that's needed, site improvements, and potential litigation. Again, we've paid our bills on time for nine years. I'd argue that this decision is about more than just business, however. For me, as a school principal, this decision is about children and children's education. I'm sorry that Lucet Francais has to move from their site, and I wish them well in finding a site that's perfect for them, but I think our site is perfect for us, and we don't want to move. It would be uprooting the children, which would be very upsetting to them because they've come to love the school. We pledge to continue being good citizens and good neighbors, and we respectfully request that you renew our lease and allow us to continue the good work that we neighbors, and we respectfully request that you renew our lease and allow us to continue the good work that we're doing here in Sausalito for Marin teens. Thank you. |
| 01:02:16.16 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. All right, Lee Larsen. |
| 01:02:23.77 | Lee Larson | Mr. Mayor, council members, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Lee Larson. I am a co-owner of Larson Engineering. We've been based here in Sausalito for 26 years now. And I'm also speaking tonight because I'm the parent of a sophomore student at the Marin School, and I'm a member of the board. I would like to say that I find it disconcerting to see the city contemplate not renewing the Marin School's lease. Of the 30-year history of the school, nine years have been here in Sausalito, and the school has invested a significant $1.8 million in improvements to the site. We're really proud of the campus. The students are thriving there, and we truly wish to continue running our school there. I just... I'm concerned that if the Marin School is ousted, how the next school, if there is a next school, would truly Thank you. feel about its new landlord. that it could have this unpredictable future. And a school has such a significant investment into its improvements. it's not an easy thing to move a school. And is that really the reputation that the city of Sausalito wants to put out there in our community? I'm very concerned about this. Thank you. |
| 01:04:07.80 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. Susan Stevenson? Okay. Who do you want to seat it to? Okay, Fred? crawl. Fred Krull. Six minutes. |
| 01:04:25.54 | Fred Kral | Hello, thank you, Mr. Mayor and council members for listening again. I'm Fred Kral, a resident of Sausalito at 80 Lincoln Drive. I'm also a math teacher at the Marin School. My major point is that the MLK property does not have the space and roadways to accommodate the level of traffic needed for 250 3K to 5 students, up from 70. high school students right now. I visited the proposed tenant, Lucey Francais, this morning in the court of Madeira. to look at traffic. Their school is not a densely populated suburban area, as they said earlier this afternoon in the comment today. They have very few neighbors, and not many are impacted by traffic. About 150 cars drop off kids at the same in the morning, compared to about 30, the marine school. That's five times more cars. and At peak times, about 5 to 10 cars per minute dropped kids off in three large areas. A front circle, a back parking lot. and the city streets. of a couple of dozen cars, U-turn. back on the city street to get back to the main road. MLK Properties does not have this amount of space. So, I urge you to delay signing the lease. out of respect for the local residents like myself and myself as a teacher at the school and the other businesses and schools at the MLK property site. And I would like you to prepare a report on the impact of having a tenant with the number of students almost quadrupled |
| 01:06:15.66 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 01:06:25.50 | Fred Kral | So thank you for your time. |
| 01:06:27.86 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. Anna West. |
| 01:06:39.57 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Okay, key. |
| 01:06:47.51 | Keith Stone King | Keith Stone King. I'm Keith Stone King at 42 Lincoln Drive. |
| 01:06:47.84 | Mayor Kelly | I'm keeping. |
| 01:06:51.39 | Keith Stone King | Good evening, council members and Mr. Mayor. I'm here on behalf of Marin School and the reason I'm here for that is after learning what the situation was. I am very familiar with the area. I've been exposed to Willow Creek and Bayside, etc. And I think I can... verify what Fred just said when his observations at Corte Madera in that The traffic for high school students is going to be totally different than the traffic for those in kindergarten to the eighth grade. If you ever try to go down between the hours and 9 o'clock in the morning, It's like a zoo getting through there. It's like going through a combat zone of the cars. So as a result, I'm going to ask the council now, has there been an environmental impact study on this? AS WE ARE. |
| 01:07:59.14 | Mayor Kelly | We're not going to address that now. You can ask the question and we'll address it. |
| 01:08:01.66 | Keith Stone King | Well, but... Since there has not been an environmental impact study on this, then I think by law, because of the major change this is going to have on the community within that area, you need to have an environmental impact study especially as to the traffic effect that's going to be on this. and the neighborhood should have been notified of this, that this was one of the things the city council was considering. And I got no information. It just so happened that Barbara Brown is a member of the Rotary Club like myself. We got to talking. I asked her, how are the job was going and she told me what was going on here. And I started checking into it. So I urge you to defer this lease until you get an environmental impact study on this thing. Thank you very much. |
| 01:08:57.58 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you, Keith. Mary Krogan? Oh, so he took it. All right. Does anybody else care to speak on this matter? |
| 01:09:10.15 | Chris Gruel | Hi, thanks again. Once again, Chris Gruel, parent and board member at the Lisée Francais. We are excited to join your community. We've been in the Bay Area for over 40 years with over 1,000 families in three very complicated neighborhoods where we've had long relationships. So we're used to working with the community and with the cities that we've been located in to make sure that our pickup and drop-off and parking situation really is consistent with the needs of the neighborhood. We've worked to stagger our drop-off and pick-up times, have very strict carpool rules for our staff. We have a bus that brings students across the bay and back and forth. So we really are sensitive and we've also been very stable. Our last location we were at for 25 years and we would have stayed 25 more years. And I can really see us staying far beyond the 20 years here. We have over 40 families we checked who live and work in Sausalito and they're going to be excited that they're going to have a much shorter commute to their school than they did before. And like I said, we've always gone out of our way to try to live with our means, to be as good a neighbor as possible. We look forward to having our food booth down at the Arts Festival and be there side by side with you for well past the time that I'll be involved in that school for many generations to come and we want to thank you for taking the time To reaching out to us and letting us take a look at this beautiful location And I think it's a great fit for us as a school and the families who attend there And I hope that will be a great fit for you in your community. Thank you |
| 01:10:47.98 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. Anyone else care to speak on this matter? |
| 01:10:53.81 | Chris Gruel | Thank you. |
| 01:10:53.83 | Mayor Kelly | All right, seeing that one. |
| 01:10:54.44 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Before you close, I'll have a comment. Charlie, can I just ask you a question on your slides before this discussion is kind of brought up? |
| 01:11:09.62 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | If you go back to the, forget the numbers for a second, just to the summaries you had there. Okay, so here, the letter of intent was never executed. |
| 01:11:17.66 | Unknown | her. That's correct. |
| 01:11:20.14 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | And that's... |
| 01:11:20.85 | Unknown | Well, it was executed by the school but not accepted by the city. Thank you. |
| 01:11:24.22 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Okay. |
| 01:11:24.31 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 01:11:24.48 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. But my understanding also that that wasn't the end point of negotiations. Is that correct? |
| 01:11:30.20 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:11:30.21 | Charlie Francis | That's correct. |
| 01:11:31.49 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | So even that was not bad. |
| 01:11:35.68 | Charlie Francis | Pardon? |
| 01:11:36.27 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | that wasn't the end point of what was asked for in our negotiations, is that? |
| 01:11:39.78 | Charlie Francis | Well, so in working through OMIT, which is the normal city procedure for bringing leases to the full city council, a letter of intent was preliminarily discussed at the OMIT meeting. One of the treasurer of the board for the Marin School went beyond the letter of intent and said that they really wanted more because of the financial depth that they were in. Subsequent to that meeting, a signed letter of intent was submitted to the city. |
| 01:12:10.90 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | But is the $1.75 and $1.15, was that proposal current pay? |
| 01:12:14.75 | Charlie Francis | No, it has not been accepted and for the remaining of the lease term, the $1.85 and $1.25 is still in place. |
| 01:12:25.29 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Okay, but the letter of intent, did that propose at those levels current payments or was there deferred payments or is that? |
| 01:12:35.00 | Charlie Francis | The letter of intent was current payments. There was no deferred payments. |
| 01:12:41.78 | Casey | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:12:42.91 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Question for Mary, if I may. Mary, as part of an occupancy permit for this property, what does the city typically look at in terms of it's a permitted use in that area of school. What factors does the city review in the occupancy permit process before it grants an occupancy permit? Or maybe, I don't know. |
| 01:13:07.43 | Mary Wagner | I'm looking at Heidi Burns, one of your planners, to see if she has the checklist in her head, but some of the issues that have been raised tonight. would be addressed in an occupancy permit such as parking, and the City Council, as the landlord, has the ability to also ask the tenant to do things like participate in a traffic and circulation study as part of their lease if you would like to add language to that extent that's not currently in the lease. |
| 01:13:42.04 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah, no, that was good. |
| 01:13:43.20 | Mayor Kelly | Any other questions or staff? Okay, I'll bring it back up here for discussion. We did discuss in closed session that having a traffic management plan and considering the noise and use of the site and so on, we wanted to build a clause into the lease which would basically require that as a condition of getting your occupancy permit for the site that you would, that LACI would prepare such a plan in conjunction with the city too so we could have a good understanding of how the traffic flow is going to work through there, what the drop off hours are and so on. I assume you've done that before with Corte Madera. . |
| 01:14:31.69 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:14:31.72 | Mayor Kelly | Yeah, okay. So leaving that a little vague, that language needs to be worked out, but that would be |
| 01:14:31.99 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:14:39.69 | Mary Wagner | Yeah, Mr. Mayor would suggest that we add language to Article 16 that talks about common area because it does address parking. Right. So we could add that the tenant would be asked to provide a deposit that the city would utilize to hire a consultant to undertake that study. We can build in timeframes if need be and add language that, you know, landlord and tenant will work to implement suggested measures that are a result of that study. |
| 01:14:46.79 | Mayor Kelly | Right. |
| 01:14:47.08 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 01:15:07.77 | Mary Wagner | I did have an opportunity to speak very briefly with the attorney representing the school and they seem to be amenable to that. I would look to the Community Development Department to give us a reasonable expectation of a deposit, and we can go from there. |
| 01:15:23.73 | Mayor Kelly | Yeah, it would be my personal wish, others may comment differently, but that we not make this a Nelson Nygaard product. The scope be limited to the things that we're really concerned about and not spend a lot of money on it if we can avoid that. |
| 01:15:31.90 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 01:15:40.30 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 01:15:40.39 | Casey | Okay. |
| 01:15:40.60 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. Any other comments? |
| 01:15:43.17 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Well, since we have the representatives here tonight, could we get an affirmation that you will be participating with the city on such a study? |
| 01:15:53.70 | Ray Budde | We've got Mayor and Council members, Ray Budde representing Lisey-Francais. Absolutely. Not a problem with the traffic and circulation study. We'd have to do it in any event. Because even though it looks like there's a lot of space out there and things should work, we really have to figure out what's going to work best for the system and the timing and the |
| 01:16:08.16 | Mike Monseff | I'm not sure. |
| 01:16:12.31 | Ray Budde | use of buses and carpools and parking and everything else. So we would do that in any event. We have no problem with the suggestion of the city attorney that we work out an amount that we put on deposit and then we'll agree upon a consultant and have somebody do the groundwork and then go with the recommendations. Should be very easy, not a problem. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:16:32.39 | Mary Krogan | Thank you. |
| 01:16:33.52 | Ray Budde | Okay. One other issue, I spoke briefly with the city attorney, and that was the issue of whether there might be portables on the site. And I think we're clear with the issue that portables wouldn't be needed as an option at all. I think we're good on that. So we can take out the reference to any possibility of portable classrooms on the site from the lease as well. |
| 01:16:35.18 | Casey | one of the other things that we're going to do. |
| 01:16:56.59 | Vice Mayor Leon | you Right. |
| 01:16:56.98 | Ray Budde | Right? . |
| 01:16:57.47 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 01:16:57.55 | Vice Mayor Leon | What are the hours of the school operations? |
| 01:16:57.57 | Ray Budde | Okay. |
| 01:17:01.18 | Ray Budde | I want the... |
| 01:17:02.30 | Unknown (Councilmember) | money. The hours of operation are from 8.30 to 8.30. Sweet PS. That means there is a little traffic in the morning for the teacher around 8 o'clock. But that's really how we operate. But we can change or adapt a little bit. That's what we did, in fact, in Kotein Bayer. |
| 01:17:30.19 | Mayor Kelly | I doubt. |
| 01:17:34.81 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:17:35.40 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 01:17:35.44 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. |
| 01:17:35.54 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 01:17:35.59 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:17:37.11 | Mayor Kelly | All right, that being said, I'll like to propose a resolution to the City Council of City of Sausalito approving the lease of premises by and between City of Sausalito and the Licee Francais. |
| 01:17:47.02 | Vice Mayor Leon | I'll second that. |
| 01:17:48.55 | Mayor Kelly | Okay, call the roll. Thank you. |
| 01:17:56.30 | Debbie | Council member Pfeiffer. Thank you. |
| 01:17:58.12 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Bye. |
| 01:17:58.30 | Debbie | . |
| 01:17:58.35 | Unknown (Councilmember) | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:17:58.40 | Debbie | Thank you. |
| 01:17:58.44 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yeah. |
| 01:17:58.61 | Debbie | Yeah. |
| 01:17:58.64 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yes. |
| 01:17:58.91 | Debbie | Thank you. |
| 01:17:58.93 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 01:18:01.29 | Debbie | Council member Ford? Yes. Council member Weiner? Yes. |
| 01:18:02.27 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yes. |
| 01:18:04.30 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yes. |
| 01:18:04.94 | Debbie | Vice Mayor Leone. |
| 01:18:07.42 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yes. |
| 01:18:08.48 | Debbie | Mayor Kelly. |
| 01:18:09.54 | Mayor Kelly | Yes. I'm talking. And I must say it's a hard decision to make, and I want you to know that we've appreciated the tenancy of the Marin School, and there's just no way to satisfy everybody in this, but thank you for all your efforts, and we wish you well. |
| 01:18:34.75 | Mayor Kelly | Let's move on. to item 6B, which is the conceptual review of the Icehouse Plaza Local Enhancement Project, request for fee waiver. |
| 01:18:46.63 | Heidi (Staff Presenter) | Good evening, Mayor Kelly, members of the City Council. Debbie's going to be pulling out my presentation, so if you wouldn't mind waiting just for a couple seconds. |
| 01:18:59.93 | Heidi (Staff Presenter) | Thank you, Debbie. So the purpose of this agenda item is to have the city council acting as property owner to conceptually review the proposed |
| 01:19:06.50 | Mike Monseff | I'm actually, |
| 01:19:09.35 | Heidi (Staff Presenter) | local enhancement project that I'll be discussing later on in these slides. The Sausalito Foundation is proposing as their project to enhance the plaza that's adjacent to the Sausalito Historical Society's Ice House. This agenda item allows the City Council to conceptually review the project and determine whether or not you can authorize the submittal to the Planning Commission for a design review permit. This agenda item also consists of a request from the Sausalito Foundation. |
| 01:19:20.45 | Mike Monseff | THAT. |
| 01:19:40.80 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | I forgot to do this before you started. So I'm a member of the board of the Foundation, so I'm going to recuse myself from this particular item. Thank you. |
| 01:19:47.03 | Heidi (Staff Presenter) | Thank you. Thank you for that. So again, the second purpose of this agenda item is for the Sausalito Foundation to request a fee waiver. So pursuant to section 1.09050 of the Municipal Code, the City Council is allowed to authorize nonprofits to have fee waivers. And the design review permit for this project would be approximately $3,670. So who is the Sausalito Foundation? We have Annette Rose here this evening, who I'm sure will provide a quick little introduction to what they're proposing to do, as well as the Sausalito Foundation. But essentially, the organization was created in 1960 and is a non-profit. The mission of the Sausalito Foundation is to maintain the natural beauty of the Sausalito and enhance its cultural and recreational resources. So since 1960, every few years the Saucedo Foundation is able to gather enough money in provide the funding for a public related project. So examples of projects that the Tos Lido Foundation has done in the past, has been the original sod for Dumpney Park, There was the soccer field and track at the MLK site, which we just heard about a little bit ago. There was also the restoration of the elephants in the foundation of the Plaza Viña del Mar, as well as, the bronze seal that we see on Bridgeway, which also included the restoration and reinstallation of that seal. |
| 01:21:15.67 | Vice Mayor Leon | Bye. Thank you. |
| 01:21:16.27 | Heidi (Staff Presenter) | Oh, the sea lion. Excuse me. Don't worry. You're not the first person to make that mistake. I can see B's face. |
| 01:21:16.28 | Vice Mayor Leon | Oh, the sea lion. Yeah. Don't worry, you're not the first person to make that mistake. I can see B's face. |
| 01:21:24.26 | Heidi (Staff Presenter) | I apologize for that. So where is the Sausalia Foundation project going to occur? Briefly discussed it, but essentially in 1998, the Ice House, which was located on Caledonia Street, was relocated on the corner of Bay Street and Bridgeway. And the Ice House was to be used and is used by the Sausalia Historical Society as a visitor center. And there is a plaza that was installed adjacent to the Ice House and |
| 01:21:24.58 | Casey | Yeah. |
| 01:21:24.64 | Vice Mayor Leon | Oh, yeah. |
| 01:21:24.87 | Casey | Yeah. Thank you. Uh, |
| 01:21:26.63 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. |
| 01:21:55.38 | Heidi (Staff Presenter) | And essentially, the Saucyde Foundation would like to improve this entire area, which would entail I'll go to the next slide. basically ripping out or demolishing the existing plaza and the entrance to the ice house and in proposing to design an integrated concept that would provide, you know, consistent materials and enhancement to the aesthetics. It includes the removal of pine trees and a maple tree It would include the installation of new hardscaping and landscaping. And because it's a public project, vis-a-vis it's located on public property, it is considered a local enhancement project and pursuant to our zoning ordinance, a local enhancement project does require a design review permit to be reviewed by the Planning Commission. One note about this proposed plan is that the Sauslator Foundation is also proposing to install a bronze sculpture of Phil Frank as an homage to him. And as most people know, Phil Frank was very instrumental in our community and provided a lot of support and information to the Historical Society, so it's nice that it's located in front of the Ice House. So with that, staff is recommending that the City Council authorize the submittal of a design review permit to allow the Saucido Foundation to submit a design review permit, as well as staff is recommending approval of the fee waiver request for the design review permit. So with that, I'm able to answer any questions you may have. Questions? Thank you. |
| 01:23:35.18 | Mayor Kelly | and, Okay. at it Would you like to? Say something, please. |
| 01:23:41.96 | Annette Rose | Thank you. |
| 01:23:41.98 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 01:23:43.26 | Annette Rose | I do. Heidi's excellent report has taken care of most of the highlights, I'm sure. I am Annette Rose. I'm the current president of the Sausalito Foundation, which has been in existence since 1960. The very first project that the Sausalito Foundation did was to purchase all the underwater lots between the Valhalla. and Trident Andine. And the reason we have the lovely view that we have today and that the world enjoys is because the group of citizens who got together, formed the nonprofit, signed the papers, Thank you. Whatever, and that was the first project for which they collected funds. To be a member of the Sausageo Foundation today, of which we have hundreds Our members pay $5 a year, but when a special project comes along, we mail out a letter and they mail back checks. And... |
| 01:24:38.09 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 01:24:38.65 | Annette Rose | It has worked quite well for all of these years. As Heidi said, today we're asking you for conceptual approval so that this can go through the rest of the city's process. We also need to have the approvals, of course, before we send out those letters requesting checks. it would not be a good idea for us to begin fundraising until we knew what the project was precisely after it's been to the Planning Commission and to yourselves. Donors are always interested in that type of information. And then also, of course, because this has to meet with the city's goals. I'd like to point out that when the ice house was moved in 1998, the county provided the $10,000 to move the ice house to downtown at the council's approved location on city property. And the Rotary Club installed the the underpinnings on the utilities and the foundation for the building. So a lot of community support was advanced at that time. There was also drawings done of what would happen to the plaza, because the plaza as it is right now is the way it was when the building arrived. It has not changed since then. And you'll note that it's blocked off by sort of a zigzag retaining wall. It has a large green box that has the mechanicals for changing the light, the stoplight, etc. That has all been looked at by the Department of Public Works and it is, our plan is precisely feasible at that location to move the box and to change the paving, to enhance it with trees and with a curvilinear. serpentine type of bench that has lighting underneath the lips. um, by removing the very large sort of post-mature and dirty, as it turns out, trees that are clogging all the drains in the area, we'll be enhancing and making easier some city services and probably increasing the views from the rooms across the street of the hotel. So we are very happy to be here tonight. We are eager to get started on our project and hope that you will support us. |
| 01:26:55.60 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. Thank you, Ned. Paul. Do you want to say anything? Oh, here comes Adam. |
| 01:27:09.93 | Adam Krivash | Good evening, Adam Krivash for Olima Street. As a local architect and urban planner, I would like to comment favorably on the proposed plaza We need places where people can gather, where they can hang out. We don't have enough sidewalks. We don't have enough plazas when we have peak traffic. And this could add another enchanted spot in our community, which could make people feel at home and welcome in the community. So I wholeheartedly support the project. |
| 01:27:49.99 | Mayor Kelly | Great. |
| 01:27:50.50 | Adam Krivash | Thank you. |
| 01:27:54.16 | Annette Rose | Okay. If I may please, I'd like to bring your attention to the fact that the venerable and very, very talented landscape architect, who is the neighbor of yours here, Paul Leffingwell, is here this evening. And he has donated his time to create the plan for the Ice House Plaza. And he has samples with him tonight if you're interested in that type of detail. |
| 01:28:17.70 | Mayor Kelly | Great, thank you. Thank you, Paul. So we sort of segued into public comment. Other members of the public like to comment? Vicki? |
| 01:28:30.41 | Vicki Nichols | Vicki Nichols, 117, Caledonia. I think this is great. When I was on the board of the Historical Society, we did talk about plaza improvements, and I know former Supervisor Rose had given the Society some money at that time for this effort. Currently on the HLB, I'm wondering if this, with some of the infrastructure vis-a-vis the statue, which is public art. Will the HLB be reviewing this? We have no Sausalito Art Commission anymore. This is one of their purviews. It is in our resolution for the HLB to review these public gifts. And I think there needs to be... I have heard comments in the community, so I think it needs some more review. I'm not I don't have a stand on it right now, but I think people want an opportunity to talk on what's being proposed. |
| 01:29:26.79 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Anyone else care to address the council on this issue? Alright, seeing none, we'll bring it back up here. Questions, comments? |
| 01:29:41.82 | Casey | Go ahead. |
| 01:29:44.35 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Well, I just have to say that I support this project. I think it's an enhancement downtown. I agree that it provides a meeting space for pedestrians, which is very nice and welcome, since the only other plaza nearby is full of bicycles. And so I like to see this sort of thing. I think it, anyway, I support this. With respect to the comment about the Arts Commission, of course I've been pushing to reinstate that for quite a while now. But in lieu of the Arts Commission ramping up, I do recall the Arts Commission creating a public arts donation policy, so perhaps the Historic Landmarks Board could use that to facilitate the acceptance of the statue. That's my comment. |
| 01:30:44.28 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Carolyn? |
| 01:30:47.28 | Vice Mayor Leon | I think it's a great project. A little sentimental, and that used to be my old storage bin. When I had the facility at 333 Caledonia Street, and that was about 1990, 1991. And, uh... It's really come a long way. You know, it went from Caledonia Street uptown, And I think it will be a great addition to the downtown area. So I think it's a wonderful thing that you've done and will do. |
| 01:31:26.97 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yes, and I also support the project. I think it will help beautify that area. I think that the Sausalito Foundation has done remarkable work. And I actually thought the Sausalito Foundation for years was B. Seidler. But anyway, I'm very... I'm very appreciative of the work that you have done and that you are doing. And I want to thank Paul for his volunteer work here. I'd like to see us use more pro bono work efforts from our residents because this is wonderful. I know it's been a lot of work for you, Paul. So anyway, I fully support it. and in regard to Vicki's remarks, I think it may help with the acceptance to have it go through the Landmarks Board, Historic Landmarks, and since it is in the Historic Landmarks area, that that's a good thing to have as part of the process, along with the Planning Commission, of course. So thank you for your hard work. |
| 01:32:42.10 | Mayor Kelly | well. Who could not support this? This is a terrific project. Susan Frank showed it to me some long while ago, and it's come a long way, and I know you're all ready to do it now, so I'm excited about it. I think having Phil's statue there is going to be terrific because he was Mr. Sausalito, is Mr. Sausalito. So I'm delighted to see it go on. I would leave the issues of where it goes body-wise to planning. They'll figure it out. And on that note, we're the applicants, so I think what we're doing is making a resolution to submit a proposal |
| 01:33:21.97 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 01:33:22.01 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Mm-hmm. Yeah. |
| 01:33:23.19 | Mayor Kelly | project for desired reviews. So if I have a motion for that. |
| 01:33:26.35 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yes, I move that we waive the design review permit and related fees for the ICE House local enhancement project. |
| 01:33:39.07 | Mayor Kelly | Okay, and to submit the Project for Design Review permit. |
| 01:33:43.46 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 01:33:43.47 | Mayor Kelly | Yes, that too. A second? |
| 01:33:43.49 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yes. |
| 01:33:45.78 | Vice Mayor Leon | Yes, second. Thank you. |
| 01:33:46.95 | Mayor Kelly | All right, all in favor? Aye. Anybody opposed? |
| 01:33:48.37 | Vice Mayor Leon | I'm not sure. |
| 01:33:48.42 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Bye. Thank you. |
| 01:33:50.80 | Mayor Kelly | Okay. Thank you. |
| 01:33:54.31 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 01:33:56.05 | Mayor Kelly | When do the envelopes come out? Thank you. Bye. |
| 01:33:58.04 | Casey | . Oh, okay.. All right. Okay. |
| 01:33:58.96 | Mayor Kelly | Yeah. Oh, okay. All right. |
| 01:34:03.98 | Vice Mayor Leon | you Okay. Keep the sea lions in there. |
| 01:34:11.82 | Mayor Kelly | All right, so now we're on to item 6C, which is the old 6B, acceptance to the 2011 Street Improvement Project and discussion of preliminary projects sites for the 2013 Street Improvement Project. Is somebody getting Jonathan? Okay, great. |
| 01:34:28.55 | Vice Mayor Leon | I'm going to get that one. |
| 01:34:50.25 | Todd Teachout | Okay. |
| 01:34:52.31 | Mayor Kelly | in logic as well. Thank you. Herb's coming. |
| 01:35:01.47 | Todd Teachout | Is Jonathan coming back? |
| 01:35:04.39 | Mayor Kelly | Yeah, but let's go ahead. |
| 01:35:04.46 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 01:35:06.09 | Todd Teachout | . I'm Todd Teachout, your city engineer. I'm here before you to talk about two elements of street improvements. One is to provide a wrap-up summary of the project that's just completed, and then to have a discussion about the next project. So with that... |
| 01:35:32.89 | Todd Teachout | Okay, the project that just wrapped up was very successful. We reconstructed two concrete streets, San Carlos and Third. We paved Watery Street for the first time. We paved four other streets, and we slurry-sealed ten. And we did structural patches on another eight streets. The work this year, this project represents 12% of the street network. And since that time, with this project and the last project, we've now done about 40% of the street network as far as paving, slurry seals, crack seals, which is a pretty good effort. Here's what we've done up till the last project. And |
| 01:35:46.46 | Steve Devine | you |
| 01:35:54.02 | Casey | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:36:23.33 | Todd Teachout | I just flashed to another screen that shows what we did in the current year's project. And again, it's a lot of streets. |
| 01:36:39.21 | Todd Teachout | The project did some other stuff, as we've mentioned in the past. We reconstructed the sanitary sewer in San Carlos. We overlaid the corporation yard and installed pollution control facilities. We installed retaining wall in Ebb Tide. We did some storm range improvements on Sausalito Boulevard. with the storms that have occurred since those improvements have gone in. We've gotten some feedback that it's working nicely on track with predictions, which is a good thing. We installed new sidewalks on Watery and Ebb Tide. We installed curbs on Casno, Curry and Glen to better control the surface runoff. Here's some photos showing some of the significant parts. Corporation yard, paving, and watery street. |
| 01:37:39.05 | Todd Teachout | our humble Casano curb. Don't forget Toyon Court. It's high up in the hills. Not too many people go to it, but it was a very needed overlay project, and we also installed a valley gutter down at the bottom to convey what had been some groundwater and retaining wall to allow it to cross the street and get into the catch basin on the other side. This is a photo of San Carlos halfway done. The downhill side is paved and wet, and the uphill side has yet to be done. As we know, it's all done. Here's a photograph of the Iptide retaining wall. From the street, you don't know it's there, but if you |
| 01:38:18.47 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 01:38:29.94 | Todd Teachout | Thank you. |
| 01:38:29.99 | Vice Mayor Leon | It is. |
| 01:38:30.33 | Todd Teachout | try to get down on the other side of the hill, a very steep hill, this is what you'd see. Construction was awarded in July. You authorized a project funding of $1.3 million. You authorized a 10% contingency. Construction started in October, and it completed, actually, the last bit of the punch list was completed last Friday. So with that, the project's 100% complete. The final cost was $1.33 million, which is 1.5% over $1.5 million. And the final cost Um, the authorized amount within the contingency. So in our world, that's pretty close. That's very good. |
| 01:39:20.18 | Adam Krivash | Amen. Thank you. |
| 01:39:20.80 | Todd Teachout | Damn it. |
| 01:39:21.21 | Casey | You went over. You did not really shout, no. You actually did not. |
| 01:39:21.94 | Todd Teachout | I'm very... |
| 01:39:24.08 | Mayor Kelly | Yep. |
| 01:39:24.40 | Todd Teachout | Oh, yeah, that's good. |
| 01:39:25.93 | Mayor Kelly | It's interesting. |
| 01:39:28.28 | Todd Teachout | So that's a very brief summary attached to your staff report is a resolution that if you adopt it, accepts the project as complete, allows us to put out a notice of completion so that the suppliers and subcontractors can get paid. |
| 01:39:29.73 | Casey | . |
| 01:39:30.03 | Charlie Francis | So, |
| 01:39:49.32 | Todd Teachout | Uh, But there's, we want to give special thanks to the, our prime contractor, Majoran Gelati. Scott Gelati was the project manager on the contractor side. The people out in the field who were, I did yeoman work. Jim Dixon, who's just an expert with concrete, he is responsible for Third and St. Carlos coming out the way it did. I'd say without him it would be a whole different project. Mike McClure is Majoran Gelati's superintendent for asphalt work. He has done work with us in the past and established a very good reputation. Not only does he do quality work, he hustles. And we want to thank Harrison Associates, who assisted in the construction management. Ernest Izoa was the day-to-day operations guy. And people that were just in here threatening the city of the city. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. |
| 01:40:46.75 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 01:40:46.78 | Casey | and. |
| 01:40:47.05 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | people that were just |
| 01:40:49.52 | Casey | . |
| 01:40:50.70 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | this. |
| 01:40:50.97 | Todd Teachout | And he was supported by Mark Stinson on the inspection side. |
| 01:40:51.00 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 01:40:56.15 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Never mind, keep me under control. Where'd you go? The library, it just went right to my head. I took out that disco book where you went through with them that they offered me before. |
| 01:41:00.03 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. |
| 01:41:00.05 | Todd Teachout | . |
| 01:41:00.28 | Vice Mayor Leon | The library. |
| 01:41:01.82 | Todd Teachout | Right to my pen. |
| 01:41:02.98 | Vice Mayor Leon | up. that they are. |
| 01:41:07.45 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 01:41:10.27 | Todd Teachout | Pat Guasco helped us on the sanitary sewer work, and many, many others helped us deliver this project. And that wraps up the wrap-up report. On to next year. While all of last year the city got a grant from MTC, and it wasn't a financial grant, it was a services grant, and MTC hired Harrison Associates, a different branch of the company, to do an update of our street pavement management program. To do that, they did a whole citywide inventory of our streets, so they collected new condition data and then entered that into the system and then ran a number of budget needs. I think we have like $8 million of unmet pavement needs. A summary is in your staff report, executive summary. They were obligated to do what we call five financial scenarios to see how we might, what might happen to the payment condition if we varied the amount of input. It determined that $250,000 a year roughly is what we need to maintain our current condition. |
| 01:42:15.65 | Mike Monseff | financial. |
| 01:42:33.79 | Todd Teachout | The current budget we have allocated $475,000, and the last year budget also had that amount. So with that funding level, we'll be creeping upwards if we can continue to maintain it. So we're a little plug for the coming budget cycle. We hope you don't. We hope those funds can stay. But we'll defer to you when we get to that point. The program came up with a preliminary... Don't back down yet, Todd. You've got to keep pushing. Keep pushing. |
| 01:42:40.18 | Mike Monseff | now. |
| 01:42:48.45 | Mike Monseff | Hello. Thank you. |
| 01:43:04.47 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 01:43:07.98 | Todd Teachout | The project spit out basically a preliminary list of street repairs to optimally, from a financial and analytical standpoint, consider for treatment. That list was attached to your staff report. I won't go into great detail which streets those are. We're asked, I can report that eight segments are suggested for overlay, 19 segments suggested for slurry seal, and 12 segments suggested for crack seal. There is no concrete street work in that suggested list. For better or for worse, it is a good idea. |
| 01:43:35.80 | Mike Monseff | Yeah. |
| 01:43:56.56 | Todd Teachout | It treats concrete streets a little bit differently. It doesn't, it kind of undervalues the roughness. Structurally, it's pretty good. It can convey the weight that it does, Thank you. |
| 01:44:09.82 | Casey | it |
| 01:44:10.85 | Todd Teachout | The analysis program really doesn't deal with roughness very well. |
| 01:44:15.80 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 01:44:15.81 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | So. |
| 01:44:16.61 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 01:44:16.98 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Do you want us to wait till the end to ask you questions? Or would you rather take them all as you go? |
| 01:44:17.15 | Todd Teachout | Do you want |
| 01:44:20.77 | Todd Teachout | Um, |
| 01:44:21.03 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:44:21.30 | Todd Teachout | Thank you. |
| 01:44:21.31 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 01:44:21.33 | Todd Teachout | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:44:21.82 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | . |
| 01:44:21.85 | Todd Teachout | Thank you. |
| 01:44:21.90 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 01:44:22.33 | Todd Teachout | along |
| 01:44:23.03 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Pay as you go is fine. Pay as you go is fine. I would actually ask you to just to actually call out the overlay, at least the eight overlay segments, because that's sort of more like what people think of when they normally think of that. I think people would want to know that if they're, I know it's in the staff report and it's in the packet, but most people don't dig too heavily into those. So I think it's worth highlighting that for both the council and for the council. |
| 01:44:46.27 | Todd Teachout | Okay, the overlay streets suggested are Atwood between Harrison and North. Casno between Platt and Marie, 4th Street between Valley and Main, There's an error in the list. It identifies marine ship way. That segment of Marinship Way is private, and we haven't corrected the database. Curry Avenue from Glenda Platt. |
| 01:45:10.67 | Mike Monseff | and |
| 01:45:17.96 | Todd Teachout | which we had received a lot of advocacy and did some structural patches this time. But it could use some more work. Easterby, we paved the upper part of it from Pearl to Woodward. This recommendation deals with the asphalt sides of Easterby. Easterby has concrete in the middle, and the middle half is concrete, and the side halves is concrete and the side halves are asphalt and the side halves are very rough shape. And this would overlay the side shapes. Bridgeway from Richardson to Princess is also identified. So that's a very preliminary list. And the We... Thank you. In addition to those, our staff reports suggest that we also evaluate on two levels, just inclusion in the next project, and then an attempt to coordinate with the undergrounding or the utility companies so that we can do some storm drain and sanitary sewer work in conjunction with the next project. |
| 01:46:39.03 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Can I just ask? And obviously, this isn't set in, it's not set in stone yet, Tom, or concrete. But the bridgeway, Richardson to Princess, which is a big stretch, is that contemplated in its current format, in terms of how the street is laid out? Or would there be some adjustment or some consideration to maybe just getting rid of the median and incorporated back there? |
| 01:46:45.70 | Todd Teachout | I'm sorry. |
| 01:47:06.39 | Todd Teachout | That would happen. Open question. The vetting process, if we're allowed to move forward, we'll evaluate that. |
| 01:47:11.70 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 01:47:18.69 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Ty, because that would be part of the project for the south end of town to the ferry landing, right? in re-looking at the bicycle traffic and how we're managing that whole area. I mean, I think we need some coordination there. |
| 01:47:42.28 | Todd Teachout | Well, the |
| 01:47:44.94 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 01:47:49.72 | Todd Teachout | As this is a maintenance effort, we would have to work within the existing widths. So we are on another track where we're preparing a project to refresh the striping. And we have been looking at options for better accommodating the bikes, perhaps in a lane. |
| 01:47:52.00 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yes. |
| 01:47:57.01 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Right. |
| 01:48:13.75 | Casey | Okay. |
| 01:48:18.17 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 01:48:18.48 | Todd Teachout | Thank you. getting off track a little bit, but the information we've gotten is not very favorable given the widths. But I'd like to defer discussion on that at this point and come back with perhaps a different time. at a different time. MR. Sure. Sure. Yeah. MR. Sure. Sure. |
| 01:48:29.19 | Unknown (Councilmember) | discussion. |
| 01:48:32.80 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | at a different time. |
| 01:48:35.37 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Sure. And one other question I had regarding the concrete streets. Are you going to take a separate look at that since the software program that you're using, you mentioned, lost lightly over them or words to that? |
| 01:48:53.85 | Todd Teachout | It doesn't ignore them, it's just the algorithms within it. they would get to it at sufficient resource level. But at the 475,000, given the backlog, it doesn't rise up. |
| 01:49:11.97 | Casey | I see. |
| 01:49:12.58 | Todd Teachout | you And the purpose of this screening process is Those, the streets that are identified in the list, could it provide us justification for the budget |
| 01:49:23.04 | Casey | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:49:29.22 | Todd Teachout | values that have been determined. But there's got to be some coordination efforts with other activities, other projects we may be doing, coordinating with the utilities. And then there's just some engineering judgment as we get a little bit further into developing a project to decide whether or not this list needs to be revised. Okay. And the last two projects, the council have been very supportive and very desired to address some of these projects that really don't and wouldn't get into the project list. You always have to kind of reach beyond. |
| 01:49:52.37 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Okay. |
| 01:50:10.12 | Casey | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:50:10.68 | Todd Teachout | what's the most economically viable to take care of some streets that have to get maintained. |
| 01:50:18.68 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Right. Okay. Thank you. |
| 01:50:21.66 | Todd Teachout | Okay. We need to start work in the construction for the next project. We're hoping we can get something out about a year from now. We hope that in the course of this presentation if you have some ideas and feedback on this list or other thoughts, you share them with us, we would take that into consideration. The plan is is to munch on these lists and come up with a more accurate, more realistic program and come back to you probably in the fall and report back and then get your blessing, so to speak, on that project? |
| 01:50:52.80 | Unknown | or. |
| 01:51:01.86 | Mike Monseff | Bless. |
| 01:51:05.67 | Todd Teachout | These are the concrete streets that we're suggesting we be allowed to look at. We don't have the resources to do all five. We may not even have the resources to do any one of them completely, but at least it will allow us to reach out to the utility companies and see what their schedules are for not only the next project, but perhaps coming projects so that we can kind of start synchronizing our maintenance efforts. At the moment, the utility companies do their maintenance on their own time, and we do ours, and they're not synchronized. It would be nice if they were. |
| 01:51:28.39 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 01:51:45.55 | Todd Teachout | MR. |
| 01:51:46.04 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 01:51:46.16 | Todd Teachout | you |
| 01:51:46.34 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | If I digress, which is actually quite bizarre, given like Third Street was a good example because even though PG&E on the electrical side was undergrounding there and they were right on board with your timetable, PG&E on the gas side came out a few weeks later and tore up the street that we just paved to replace the gas connectors, even though you would notify them far ahead of time. |
| 01:51:47.91 | Todd Teachout | I'm sorry. |
| 01:52:11.81 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. Aye, aye, aye. |
| 01:52:14.19 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 01:52:14.20 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | you |
| 01:52:14.39 | Casey | Yeah. |
| 01:52:14.42 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:52:18.13 | Todd Teachout | So these are the five streets. Main Street, we get a lot of advocacy to do something on that street. We don't get quite as much, at least I don't get quite as much for Richardson. Gerard, if you travel on it, is very rough. B Street, it's probably not so rough, but it's probably, given the short segment, and it's that the weight of this building, and this is the community center as well as the city hall, it's a very busy street. And then 4th Street. |
| 01:52:22.00 | Casey | of |
| 01:52:42.42 | Mike Monseff | Of course. |
| 01:52:57.01 | Todd Teachout | He's trying to have sinkholes on some of these streets. We are. Yes, yes. |
| 01:53:00.20 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 01:53:00.22 | Mayor Kelly | We are. B is. B is. Yeah. Yeah. |
| 01:53:02.03 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah. |
| 01:53:03.58 | Todd Teachout | Yeah, and just to let you know, we've gotten, there's a couple, there's at least a couple streets on here that aren't identified for broad consideration, but we'll be looking at maybe to do a patch. When Attorney Street comes to mind, there's one or two others like that. |
| 01:53:04.73 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 01:53:04.76 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 01:53:04.88 | Casey | Yeah. |
| 01:53:24.88 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 01:53:26.19 | Todd Teachout | So if the council supports this plan, we'll start reaching out to the utility companies to coordinate. We'll start getting contract consultants on board to help us with the design, and we'll start narrowing down the program and report back. Again, if you have comments, feedback, direction, I'm listening. And that's my report. |
| 01:53:58.64 | Mayor Kelly | I'm going to go to the Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:53:59.40 | Todd Teachout | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:53:59.82 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 01:54:01.86 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah, I asked you some along the way, but I would suggest you come back with some recommendations of those. Rather than it be who complains the loudest, but recommendations from here's the status of the condition of some of these concrete streets. And recommend one or two, and then we'll see if we can find the money. I know we're in a different situation this year than we were a couple years ago as far as, but at least we can consider it and see what we can do. We can certainly take it out of Chief Tejada's budget and allocate it to this. |
| 01:54:16.18 | Mike Monseff | Yeah. |
| 01:54:35.11 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | But it'd be better that you look at it from a, here's the, but also you've got sewer work planned on a lot of some of those streets in the future, and the question is sort of when do all those ducts line up? And given the, that's only you know that, so. |
| 01:54:36.86 | Jonathon Goldman | But I... |
| 01:54:52.59 | Todd Teachout | I hope. Chief Tejada doesn't mind us depleting her helicopter budget. |
| 01:54:58.14 | Casey | budget. Thank you. |
| 01:55:01.40 | Mayor Kelly | Okay, any other questions? If I... |
| 01:55:04.62 | Jonathon Goldman | If I... |
| 01:55:05.26 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. Yeah. You've got a ticket on your car, Todd, right now. |
| 01:55:09.79 | Jonathon Goldman | If I may, Mr. Mayor, I realize this is kind of an interruption in the process, but rather than wait until the end and then try and get up and speak, I just want to interrupt and go back to the middle of something. I'm Jonathan Goldman, Public Works Director. We, Todd did a good job of recognizing a number of people who contributed to the success of this year's Streets Project. He didn't recognize some other people, and I want to take just a moment to recognize him, and also to just provide a couple of examples and then read a letter that Scott Gelati, who's the Vice President of Majoran Gelati, sent and asked me to read because he was unfortunately not able to be here this evening. The best way for me to compliment Todd, I think, under the circumstances is And I thought about reading verbatim some of the emails that he and sometimes I and a lot of times all of you or individuals of you have received during the course of some of the last couple of years of projects. There are many situations that exist that obviously we haven't fixed them all, but situations that at a very small scale residents of the community become aware of an issue that Um, is significant to them. And it may be blown out of proportion by certain circumstances, but it's still significant. And to the extent that those issues, and I'm referring primarily to drainage issues, to the extent that those issues get attention, And then, that they are not successfully resolved, and the temper and the flavor of the emails and the correspondence gets hotter and in many ways more abusive. And for our city engineer and our contractor, and I too want to compliment Maggiore and Gelati for the work they've done the last two years and the relationship, even though in a low bid climate, we don't get to choose which contractor we want to work with. But I think this community has benefited greatly from having Major Angelati here from the relationship that Todd Teachout and the staff at Major Angelati have developed And. the solutions to the problems that our designers didn't satisfactorily recognize or resolve, the quality of the workmanship that the people of Sausalito have gotten for their money, and have it come in on budget. is a great tribute to the individuals, to Todd and to the individuals who on a daily basis have dealt with those issues. So I want to make sure that you and members of the community recognize Todd. Let me read this letter from Scott Gelati, too, just into the record. To the members of the Sausalito City Council, Majora and Gelati would like to extend its thanks to you for your recognition of our company's partnership with the City of Sausalito over the last two years for the yearly street repair projects. Working with Mr. Todd Teachout and Mr. Jonathan Goldman is a pleasure. These two individuals take on the work of several staff in any other city. Their dedication to the projects and the city is off the charts. They make sound decisions based not only on economics, but on doing the job right. The city is quite lucky to have such a great, hardworking staff. I know that Mr. Elmo Majora, a longtime resident of Sausalito, takes great pride in Majora and Gelati's work, as well as the betterment of his hometown. He's proud of the relationship we built and he, along with Mr. Gary Gelati and myself, look forward to continuing this partnership long into the future. From the crews and staff of Majoran Gelati, Gary Gelati, and myself, thank you to the city for the work, the partnership, and we look forward to many great projects in the future. Respectfully, Scott Gelati, Vice President and part owner of Majoran Gelati. Congratulations. |
| 01:59:46.32 | Casey | Congratulations. Thank you. Cheers. It's great. |
| 01:59:49.66 | Vice Mayor Leon | Jennifer, could you see that Todd gets a card that he can park in lot one for three hours so he doesn't get a ticket? |
| 01:59:50.92 | Casey | Thank you. Thank you, Todd. |
| 02:00:01.47 | Mayor Kelly | All right. |
| 02:00:02.18 | Mayor Kelly | Any questions of staff? |
| 02:00:02.97 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Just a comment. I would like to say. |
| 02:00:04.63 | Mayor Kelly | to say you |
| 02:00:05.28 | Unknown (Councilmember) | you |
| 02:00:05.34 | Mayor Kelly | public comment before we comment? Oh, sure. Okay. Any member of the public would like to comment on anything that's been said here for this issue? All right. Seeing none, bring it back up here. Go ahead, Carol. |
| 02:00:06.38 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Oh, sure. |
| 02:00:07.55 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:00:14.85 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Okay, I would just like to add to what Jonathan Goldman said. The residents on CASNOW screamed pretty loudly about that drainage issue. And what I heard back from them once it was fixed, that you all were just wonderful. And that Todd Teachout was really good to work with, that you really helped them out. So thanks a lot. |
| 02:00:42.65 | Mayor Kelly | Any other comments? |
| 02:00:47.22 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Todd, thank you so much. And I've heard similar things. What I hear is that you listen, and that's so important. And we appreciate your hard work and your efforts. And thank you so much. |
| 02:01:03.03 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:01:03.62 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah, I would just like to, I think we finally have given Todd the resources to actually do his job. Yeah. For many years, Todd was it. Thank you, Todd. Darn, now he's looking at me, I'm sweating. We finally gave you both money and time, which you didn't have either five years ago, to do some of these projects. And that's, you know, before we throw things out and put them on the calendar for you to do, priority calendar, we forget there's only so much time and there's only so much money. And, you know, we have to make sure we prioritize things. And finally, we gave you the tools to actually do what a city engineer, especially you, have been trying to do for many, many years here. And thank you very much. I think, you know, Third Street was obviously not a disinterested party on Third Street, but one of my neighbors without, you know, just lined the street with flags, if you remember, and because they were so happy that that street had been repaired. And that's a testament to the hard work that you and other folks put in to finally tackle some of the concrete streets and others. So thank you very much. |
| 02:01:13.66 | Casey | Yeah. |
| 02:01:17.21 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 02:01:17.22 | Casey | It was it. Thank you, Tony. Darn, now he's looking at me. I'm sweating. |
| 02:01:22.45 | Mike Monseff | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:01:25.98 | Vice Mayor Leon | late. |
| 02:02:06.21 | Mike Monseff | Yeah. |
| 02:02:19.95 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:02:19.96 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 02:02:19.98 | Mayor Kelly | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:02:21.01 | Vice Mayor Leon | Yeah, I also want to thank you, Todd, and actually for getting some concrete streets done. I don't think we've had a concrete street done for about 30, 33 years, something like that, a whole street. So really, hats off. Thank you very much. |
| 02:02:39.20 | Mayor Kelly | Well, I want to say I'm disappointed, actually. because all the cocktail parties I've been to in the last year and a half, I can't get anybody to talk about the potholes. So thank you. No, it's a great job. You have done a fabulous job of making this thing happen. And I watched Spencer go on as a work of art. It's not just that it went in very elegantly and with great attention to budgeting and all the other things because to hit that number, It's pretty remarkable. Yeah. So thank you. All right. Let's move on to Oh, we have to stop. That's right. We have to accept it. All right. Do I have a motion? |
| 02:03:20.16 | Vice Mayor Leon | Yeah, I make a motion to adopt the attached resolution accepting the 2011 Street improvements and authorizing the issuance of a notice of completion. |
| 02:03:29.42 | Unknown (Councilmember) | a second. Thank you. |
| 02:03:30.23 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:03:30.27 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 02:03:30.28 | Mayor Kelly | All right. All in favor? Hi. |
| 02:03:31.70 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Bye. Thank you. |
| 02:03:33.42 | Vice Mayor Leon | Excellent. Thank you, Todd and Jonathan. Good job. |
| 02:03:34.13 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you, Todd. |
| 02:03:36.49 | Mayor Kelly | All right. And now we're at the Marin Emergency Radio Authority. Receive information on MERRA, including the general overview, JPA amendment, executive board, and system replacement. Chief Tejada. Thank you. |
| 02:03:50.80 | Unknown | Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, and Council Members. myself and Captain Robacher are going to share this presentation, and this comes from a request of Councilmember Ford to provide some background on the upcoming amendment to the JPA and the amended and restated bylaws. So we thought this was a good opportunity to Thank you. Refresh your memories about what MERA actually is, and it's a quick snapshot view, and then review those changes. And then also on the horizon with MERA, we have a replacement cost issue coming up that I will briefly touch at the end. So as you know, MERA is a collection of public agencies formed in, I think it was 1998. And it provides crucial communications for public safety, primarily in fire, but also DPW and other districts and organizations are part of Marin Emergency Radio Authority. From here on, will be mentioned as MERA. |
| 02:04:39.71 | Mike Monseff | Bye. |
| 02:05:05.85 | Unknown | So it's a partnership of, as I said, these towns, cities, organizations, special districts. And here's information on this budget. In 1998, it was designed to accommodate about 1,500 mobile units. Today it serves much more than that, 2,875, with an average of 3.7 million calls on that system each year. So it has exceeded the original expectations. And... It was anticipated that this system would have a 20-year life, and we are confident that it has maybe four years left. Um, Here is the list of there are 25 agencies in MERA. |
| 02:06:09.72 | Unknown | And then this is the organizational chart for the Marin Emergency Radio Authority. And Captain Robarker is going to take it over from here and give you a little bit of background on the executive board and the upcoming changes. |
| 02:06:25.11 | John Robbacher | It's never over. John Robbacher, I'm your captain of the police department. I serve the MERA organization in two capacities in my three years here with the Salisbury Police Department. My first position is as the second alternate on the 25 member board of directors. That puts me third in line behind Councilmember Ford and Chief Tejada. But all three of us have the ability to vote at the semi-annual board of directors meetings. Having three of us able to do that is actually better than most agencies put forth, and that way at least one of us will be there to vote for the city of Sausalito. The second position I fill is as a member of the current executive committee. That committee is currently made up of 11 members and the composition is a little bit unusual and is subject to change this year. It's gonna be renamed as the Executive Board and have only nine members. The current composition of 11 members, eight vote and three do not. and it's kind of an odd number for a voting board. Getting out of quorum sometimes is difficult. So one of the things that the governance work group did, and that's a subcommittee of the larger board of directors, is when they set the new strategic plan was to come up with a little bit easier way to do the day-to-day or in this case, month-to-month work. And so they're going to change the subject to the board of directors approval later in change the executive board to nine members, all of them voting, and spread out the representation a little bit more evenly. Thank you. So what is it we do? And in a lot of ways, just like a lot of boards, a large board of directors, it's pretty hard to get 25 people together to do anything other than to vote on some work that the smaller groups do. The executive board does basically the heavy lifting of meeting every other month and going through all the different reports that come from our subcommittees and then deciding, you know, what to do next on a regular operating basis but subject always to the policy decisions and the budgetary decisions made by the large group, the 25 members, board of directors. |
| 02:09:09.40 | John Robbacher | Okay. So I think I already answered that one. Does the executive board have the ultimate governing authority? And the answer is clearly no, they do not. This is the composition of the new executive board. Nine members and the larger groups clearly have their own. County Marin really gets two, one representing the county itself and the other the sheriff. The large cities, Santa Fe and Nevada each have one. And then the fire services, meaning like what would be the equivalent of the Marin County Fire Chiefs, they select a member. At least that's the plan in May. The police departments, the members of the Marin Chiefs Group will select a member. And then the Southern Marin Cities and Towns select somebody. And then the special districts have a representation. |
| 02:09:58.54 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:09:59.12 | John Robbacher | So how they're chosen is really largely up to each of the members to pick. Like for instance, of course, for the chiefs group, then the Marin chiefs would pick somebody representing the Marin chiefs and such. Fire chiefs group would pick a fire chief. The county Marin picks a member, right now it's, you know, County Administrator Matthew Heimel. but the sheriff has a standing seat on the board. The city of Nevada and the city of San Rafael pick somebody. It could be either the city manager, fire chief, police chief, and generally there's more than one selected as an alternate. The idea is to bring the wide variety of skills necessary to make some of those decisions. Working on MERA is a fairly complex project. It's worth an awful lot of money. It's got a lot of other value to it. And there's a lot of things that have to be done to keep it moving in the right direction. And part of what the Chief and I are trying to get to tonight is a little bit of discussion challenges face all the member organizations of MERA knowing that the system is really in its last third of its useful life. |
| 02:11:14.28 | John Robbacher | So, let's see. The term of the members is two years. Like anything else, if they can get you there for two years, they're happy to have you longer. So they don't necessarily have to have a big boat process. I've been on three already, and there wasn't anybody that said anything after my second year. They just figured if you keep showing up, they're happy to have you for the rest of the time. And... |
| 02:11:32.82 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 02:11:32.84 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | President. |
| 02:11:37.50 | John Robbacher | that |
| 02:11:37.68 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | But... Yeah, that's true. And this new system where you have the four cities you're gonna have to battle to see who sits on it from Southern Marin. |
| 02:11:46.63 | John Robbacher | The Southern Marin Cities picks their own membership. Is that what you're asking? Yeah. So it rotates two years. So that gives an opportunity for that change. |
| 02:11:51.57 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | you Thank you. |
| 02:12:02.93 | John Robbacher | So this is really an idea about how we report back. You know, we certainly have our meetings that we have every other month, the scheduled meetings for the Executive Board. We do have a hired... staff member that Maureen Castingham, she's our you know, basically like our executive director, keeping things moving, taking care of staff. The mayor organization rents office space from the Nevada Fire Protection District, sort of a place to hold our meetings. We also pay a small amount of money to one of their clerical staff to help with minutes and keep things going. Prior to that, the mayor was homeless and was just looking for meeting space anywhere they could get. It's much more organized now. And a lot of our meetings are done even though we're all assembled in one of the large meeting groups. We have the conference phones on the desktops and so a lot of our consultants are able to weigh in at the meetings and provide information to us right over the speakerphone and keep things moving rather than having some of these consultants come from a long Thank you. I'll be available for questions if you have any after the sheet is finished. |
| 02:13:14.61 | Unknown | So the current Sorry. The current system is 14 years old, and as I mentioned before, it's exceeded its capacity. And we expect that the current system will fail. That means we won't be able to communicate with each other over our radios or with other agencies. In five to six years is a very optimistic timeline. More realistically, if we look at all the spare parts that we have available to use, maybe four years. So the system site controllers that are used to assign calls to various sites and system consoles, they are outdated. Repair parts are difficult to find. Shelly at the radio shop contacts other agencies who are no longer using their pieces of equipment and gets whatever spare parts she can from them to repair ours. Many of the parts, in fact, I think most of the parts are no longer made by Motorola. And like anything today, technology advances so quickly that they just stop making the parts because they will not be applicable with the new technology. They won't work. Our expansion project was completed, but we're still below our capacity needs, specifically during a major disaster. So we have some considerations on what are we going to do. We can't use smoke signals. People might ask, and I think it's a reasonable question, why can't you use cell phone technology? But as you know, cell phones are likely to go down in a disaster, so that's not an option for us. |
| 02:15:12.16 | Unknown | So some important dates that we are mindful of as we... address, Mera, is that the FCC has a deadline set for January 1, 2013, that we're all on using 12.5 kilohertz technology. We're already compliant, so you can trust that we are ahead of the curve when we can be and we do the right thing. By 2015, the manufacturers have to supply that equipment, and most of them are already doing it. By 2017, every user has to convert to that system, and this is commonly referred to as the FCC narrow banding mandate. Don't ask me too many questions tonight, because this is a complicated topic. |
| 02:16:01.03 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | What is the narrow banding? |
| 02:16:03.16 | Casey | Oh. |
| 02:16:05.08 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | I don't know. Thank you. You walked into that one. Thank you. |
| 02:16:08.63 | Unknown | I did. |
| 02:16:08.66 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | I did. Thank you. |
| 02:16:10.84 | Unknown | So, um... our current system uses the the most current narrowbanding technology that is available to Um, law enforcement agencies and fire, and so, We are using that right now. |
| 02:16:33.38 | Unknown | When we move to the Projects 25 mirror, We will need some interface equipment to do that. And ultimately, the system is gonna be obsolete. And so research tells us that we will be moving and mandates to a 700 megahertz system. when not I, but the group of very talented people who are well-versed in MERA looked at options because we know the current system is going to be obsolete in probably four years. We have these mandates to change over. We have to move to a new system. So what are our options? We could add basic 700 megahertz conventional interoperability to the present system, but that's a band-aid because the present system is not going to last more than four years, so we wouldn't want to do that. That wouldn't be... fiscally responsible because in four years, then we're looking at now what are we going to do? Um. Of all of these options, option four is the one that the group of people who researched our options felt that we have to look at this. Because if we do a Band-Aid now and the system becomes obsolete in four years, putting a new system in place takes about five years on average. So we're in a very precarious situation if we don't start planning now for a new system. Because it will take us about five years to get that in place. So there's an overlap. We're still using the current system, and we will be working on the new system, and it will take us about five years to complete the selection, the installation, the planning, the financing, and everything for that system. So the 700 megahertz system is the new frequency spectrum allocated to public safety. All of our channels must be Project 25, by 2017. And if you want to know what that is, I'll send you an email. All of the channels have been already allocated, and we have 27 of those designated for Marin County. And that includes all... users. Proposals have been received from Harris, Inc. and Motorola for the new Mira system. The proposals included a conventional interoperability solution which would be $1.2 million, or the complete replacement, which is $50 million. This concept was approved by the Mera Executive Committee on March 9th last year, along with all of the other committees. |
| 02:19:42.43 | Unknown | These are the features of the 700 MHz system. And in summary, Um, The reason I think that people, it's good to point out that people don't know what MERA is or they're not aware of MERA is because the system really hasn't failed us. So it works in the background. We all communicate to each other. And so there's no crisis. We've been able to communicate with FIRE, communicate with DPW, communicate with other law enforcement agencies when we have a multi-agency response to an incident. So it's been working for us. We do need to address these issues, and everybody agrees that we have to incorporate the most advanced technology available, and that's why we have a $50 million price tag on it. |
| 02:20:49.12 | Unknown | The original system cost $27 million in 1998. So how are we going to pay for this? is probably the question that you're thinking. There are several options, and the most suitable financing is to, or the most, what's the word I'm looking for, common sense one is to go to different sources. So obviously the agency, we are going to have continued operational costs because we can't finance those. But we are looking at grant opportunities, and up to the tune of $5 million, we may be able to acquire a grant. There are other options such as going out for a sales tax, maybe parcel tax. So it's going to have to be a jigsaw puzzle of financing to make this work for us. If you have any questions, I will take them. |
| 02:22:00.84 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:22:01.96 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Mr. Mayor, I have a question. Thank you. So if you go back to the slide with the four options and... Oops. Whoops. |
| 02:22:15.93 | Unknown (Councilmember) | And I guess my question is, it says countywide 700 megahertz system, including mobiles and portables. Does that require any new structures in Sausalito? No. OK. No. OK. That was my question. Thank you. |
| 02:22:31.08 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Okay. |
| 02:22:31.40 | Casey | Okay. No. |
| 02:22:31.98 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Bye. |
| 02:22:32.03 | Casey | you |
| 02:22:32.08 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 02:22:32.16 | Casey | . |
| 02:22:35.47 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | It won't solve the coverage problem in Sausalito if you don't do that. Right at the south end of town. It's not currently fully covered under Mira. |
| 02:22:43.55 | Unknown | That would reduce the risk. |
| 02:22:44.08 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | That would require the Wolfpack Ridge Tower to do that. |
| 02:22:47.18 | Unknown | Yes, the new system will require three new towers, it is anticipated. But I don't want you to get concerned about that because we don't know what the new system is. So until we know what the system is, we could maybe do it with three less towers than what we have now. Or maybe we don't need towers. Maybe it's satellite. We don't know what that technology is. Yeah. Thank you. |
| 02:23:13.69 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Mr. Mayor, a follow-up question? So three new towers, but not in Sausalito. Not in Sausalito. Okay, thank you. |
| 02:23:20.04 | Unknown | Not in social media. |
| 02:23:20.97 | Mayor Kelly | Okay. |
| 02:23:25.10 | Mayor Kelly | Okay, thank you, Jennifer. |
| 02:23:28.93 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yeah, I'd just like to say a special thanks since I |
| 02:23:32.02 | Mayor Kelly | Do you want to do a public comment first? Oh, I always do that. Okay. Thank you. We'll have a comment in a second. Any member of the public care to comment on this presentation? All right. Seeing none now. Can I have? Wait. |
| 02:23:33.44 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Oh, I always do that. |
| 02:23:45.26 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Can I ask your question before we get into the comment? So, I'm sorry. Are you concerned at all about the new governance system on the executive board? |
| 02:23:47.75 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:23:47.85 | Unknown | you |
| 02:23:52.59 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 02:23:52.86 | Casey | you |
| 02:23:52.91 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:23:52.93 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:23:53.20 | Unknown | Good question. |
| 02:23:53.57 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | you |
| 02:23:53.64 | Unknown | and, |
| 02:23:53.77 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | because it takes away your direct vote. My read of that is the Southern Marin Cities, Sausalito, Tiburon, Belvedere, Mill Valley, will pick one to represent the four. |
| 02:24:04.13 | Unknown | Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. |
| 02:24:05.67 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:24:05.94 | Unknown | And that's a good idea because it reduces the complexity of that And my concern and Jim, Chief Irwin's concern, will be How are our people, how are we gonna communicate? And we have representation, so the police chiefs have representation as well as the fire chiefs. So these changes are good, and my recommendation is to go with the changes because it really creates efficiencies in MERA for process and decision making. |
| 02:24:35.60 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | And to your knowledge, are the fire districts and departments going to write on this system and leave their old system behind because they don't even use MIRA to a certain extent now because it doesn't, can't accommodate them. I don't want to get into what the, my brief time on this agency, this is what I gleaned. So, but given the cost that we're looking at here, |
| 02:24:56.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:24:57.22 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 02:24:57.25 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:24:57.27 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Are they going to use this system, or are they still going to go out for their own system when that time comes? |
| 02:25:01.71 | Unknown | The cost that the $50 million covers is to give all of the current users a new system. And that new system hopefully will have the capability to communicate with any other system. So if there are agencies out there now who are not part of MERA, We hope to be able to communicate with them, but ultimately we hope that all the radio users will be part of the new system. |
| 02:25:31.34 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | I mean, obviously, there's a lot of time to talk about this, but to me, that was one of the big issues is why have duplicate systems for two different sides of the house? And then one side of the house is here included in the decision making, but may not choose to participate, meaning all the fire departments and districts. |
| 02:25:39.86 | John Robbacher | Yeah. |
| 02:25:49.82 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | So then the people who pay the taxes that will support this will have to pay for two systems if you don't do that up front. but You know, he had the problems early on with this, where Meals on Wheels got radios, and all these other people got radios, |
| 02:26:03.20 | Casey | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:26:05.29 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | You know, the trash trucks got radios, all kinds of people had radios in the overwhelmment system and then they had to redo that whole thing. Is there plans to just limit it to the public safety aspect of it on Mira now versus for the new system or is it going to be? |
| 02:26:21.33 | Unknown | Public safety and fire will always have preferential use of the system. |
| 02:26:27.53 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | But they're still considering having these other agencies |
| 02:26:30.91 | Unknown | Yes, because it works in our favor for all of us to be able to communicate when there's a crisis. No question. |
| 02:26:38.76 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | The question that was asked of me, would this allow you in this new system to So much of what we use today is data, not just That's one thing to keep in mind, is it's not just a radio, is it something that will allow data to go back and forth instead of just voice in the future. And you guys are all over that. |
| 02:26:54.84 | Unknown | Yes. We are all over that. |
| 02:26:58.75 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:26:58.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:26:58.97 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. All right. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:27:01.77 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Any other comments? |
| 02:27:02.52 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:27:05.39 | Unknown (Councilmember) | No, I just want to thank you, Chief Tejada and Captain Rohrabacher, for giving this presentation. I requested it, and I think you did a great job, and it's something that all the council needs to know about because it's a huge chunk of money. Thanks. Thanks. Thank you. |
| 02:27:26.36 | Mayor Kelly | Great. |
| 02:27:26.68 | Unknown (Councilmember) | They're going to be a little bit. |
| 02:27:27.04 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:27:28.50 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah, so I mean, my only comment here, like the JPAs where these other entities, the larger entities get these automatic berths in the playoffs, I just hope that they don't drive the bus because that's the way the other JPAs tend to work, where they get those automatic seats, San Rafael, Novato, the county, you know, and then we're left tagging along. Don't worry, I'm at the table. I know. All right. |
| 02:27:47.27 | Unknown | I don't know. |
| 02:27:47.32 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:27:47.35 | Unknown | Don't worry, I'm at the table. I know. All right. I know how to handle them. All right. I'm very confident our voice is included in this. And I do want to thank Captain Robarker because prior to my getting here, he went to all of those meetings. And I serve, actually, in answer to your question, I am now on the outreach committee. So I have a voice of those meetings, which is all about the new system, |
| 02:27:51.66 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Bye. Thank you. |
| 02:27:51.83 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | them. |
| 02:27:52.03 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:27:52.10 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah. |
| 02:27:52.60 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:28:16.68 | Unknown | and Captain Robarker has been very involved. So we do have a voice at the table and we will continue to have a voice at the table. You can be guaranteed of that. |
| 02:28:28.16 | Mayor Kelly | Good. Excellent. Thank you very much, Senator. you |
| 02:28:30.42 | Unknown | They were, |
| 02:28:30.64 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:28:30.69 | Unknown | come |
| 02:28:30.91 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:28:30.92 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:28:31.97 | Mayor Kelly | All right, we'll move on. I'd like to stick in this remaining Hanging Out There Horizons restaurant issue six. |
| 02:28:37.79 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:28:37.83 | Casey | I'm in public on it. |
| 02:28:39.02 | Mayor Kelly | We did. We did. We took it. Yeah. So just to get it off the table, then we move on to the major issues, which is the it was formerly 4D. It would now become 6E. |
| 02:28:39.19 | Casey | We did. |
| 02:28:57.35 | Mayor Kelly | And that is the adopted resolution approving the Fourth Amendment to lease with Horizons Restaurant, View Restaurants LLC. You pulled it. |
| 02:29:05.52 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | So Jeremy, my question here is, and it wasn't in the staff report so I'm just clarifying |
| 02:29:05.87 | Casey | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:29:06.08 | Mayor Kelly | . |
| 02:29:17.05 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Let me find this again here. Two things. The photo of the leased area, I suppose, I don't know if that's sort of include the dock. which is not permitted, doesn't have a permit, let's say. But my read of the sort of polygon that it doesn't actually, that parcel where the dock sits, is that owned by the city? Can you bring up that picture? It's in the, there'll be the, in the, Thank you. |
| 02:29:57.38 | Mary Wagner | Mr. Mayor, if I may? So the lease was amended, the Third Amendment to the lease, I think in 2002, to add in the area that I believe Vice Mayor Leon is referring to, which is the floating gangway boat float and buoys. And at that time, it was added to the definition of what we are calling the Bayside parcel. |
| 02:30:21.95 | Barbara Brown | Okay. |
| 02:30:22.03 | Mary Wagner | THE END OF THE END OF THE So when this amendment refers to the Bayside parcel and specifically includes that area, Then the rent was increased for that parcel. at that time and we also collected two years of back rent for that parcel at that time. While it might not have been included in the photos or the depictions that were included in your staff report, it is included in the legal definitions, and I can verify that it's included in the legal definitions that are attached. But when you go through the the leases and the amendments, that area was added into the Bayside parcel. |
| 02:31:02.48 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | But so we're leasing land for a dock that has no permit. So is that, or underwater, a water lot? I would request that you put in this lease amendment that will be voided if they don't receive the permits for this dock by a certain point in time. |
| 02:31:22.34 | Mary Wagner | I think your community development director has been working with the property owner on the permitting issue, and that permitting issue was addressed in the Third Amendment as well. |
| 02:31:30.66 | Unknown | Okay. I'm sorry, Vice Mayor Leon, your thought is that the doc may not have a firm that? |
| 02:31:37.02 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Well, you can tell me what the current status of the permits of the DOC are. Maybe that's a better way to approach it. |
| 02:31:42.91 | Unknown | So, and I'm going back to about two years ago when the operator of the restaurant came in for a building permit for a hinge on the dock. And so at that time, we as staff explored the status of the dock and we went back, looked at aerial photos going back to, I think, 1885. And the dock was in, there was a dock at that time, and then the building was moved in the 1970s, 1980s timeframe, the building was moved toward the water away from Bridgeway, and the dock continued to be there. So the dock is considered to be a legal nonconforming structure. |
| 02:32:29.03 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah, I don't mean for us. I mean the VCDC permits for that, Don. |
| 02:32:32.19 | Unknown | We have not explored the the permit status with BCDC. |
| 02:32:38.50 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Okay, so that would be something I would ask you to do, not just to be a pain in the neck, but because if it's legal, great. If they have a permit or if they're grandfathered under some 1880 reflective thing. But if it's not, given the other issues we have with non-permitted buoys and docks, it would be one of the ones we could consider removing as part of some other trade-off with BCDC for other projects. So if we could include that in the lease, though, that we shouldn't lease them land for somewhere they don't have a permit to actually have a structure. |
| 02:33:03.25 | Mike Monseff | we can look trade on. |
| 02:33:14.00 | Mary Wagner | That language was included in the Third Amendment, and we can follow up with that. |
| 02:33:16.60 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Okay. And as part of the current project that they're remodeling, are they remodeling and will they reopen the public restrooms on? for this facility. |
| 02:33:27.84 | Unknown | Yes, they will. |
| 02:33:28.48 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Okay, so they'll come up to their apartment. |
| 02:33:30.24 | Unknown | you I would say, |
| 02:33:30.66 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 02:33:30.76 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:33:30.81 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Okay. So those are my two questions. |
| 02:33:34.27 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. Thank you. I made a motion. |
| 02:33:36.01 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 02:33:37.49 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 02:33:37.53 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thanks, Jeremy. |
| 02:33:38.17 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 02:33:38.20 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. |
| 02:33:39.55 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:33:40.50 | Vice Mayor Leon | I make a motion to adopt the resolution of the City Council of the City of Sausalito, approving the Fourth Amendment to the lease agreement by in between the City of Sausalito and View Restaurants, LLC. |
| 02:33:53.09 | Mayor Kelly | After a second. |
| 02:33:56.87 | Mayor Kelly | Okay. |
| 02:33:57.32 | Unknown (Councilmember) | I seconded. |
| 02:33:59.36 | Mayor Kelly | I second. I try not to. Second. |
| 02:34:01.61 | Unknown (Councilmember) | I know. |
| 02:34:02.32 | Mayor Kelly | We'll make the motion. |
| 02:34:02.52 | Unknown (Councilmember) | We'll make him. |
| 02:34:03.73 | Mayor Kelly | Okay, so all in favor, voice vote. Aye. Any opposed? |
| 02:34:06.62 | Adam Krivash | Thank you. |
| 02:34:06.65 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:34:06.67 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Bye. |
| 02:34:06.69 | Casey | . |
| 02:34:06.74 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yeah. |
| 02:34:06.96 | Casey | Yeah. |
| 02:34:06.97 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Bye. |
| 02:34:09.91 | Mayor Kelly | All right, let's go on to... Thank you. Thank you. The big event of the evening. |
| 02:34:16.29 | Casey | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:34:16.78 | Mayor Kelly | which is item 6F, which is City Council Priority Calendar Step 2. Adam? |
| 02:34:27.09 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:34:27.11 | Mayor Kelly | Step one and a half. First, I asked for some printed copies because it's hard to switch back and forth on this one. |
| 02:34:27.17 | Adam Politzer | Step one of that. |
| 02:34:28.00 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:34:28.03 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, factually. |
| 02:34:36.74 | Adam Politzer | While Debbie is handing out some printed copies for you folks, and I know that you'll also put this on the screen so folks in the audience can follow along. Just a quick reminder to the folks here in the audience and at home that are trying to understand the priority calendar process. It really gives us an opportunity to take a look at projects that are usually one time in nature. They're above and beyond the regular duties, daily duties of the staff. and actually helps us move things that get stuck in the cracks forward so that we spend the money wisely when we have money to spend on things that are above and beyond the normal day-to-day business. It is important to remind the council and the public that this process goes hand-in-hand with the budget. And as mentioned at the last council meeting, we already know that we're going to have a very tight budget. So in years in the past where we had surplus and usually use surplus money for projects that are one time in nature, we're not anticipating |
| 02:35:39.33 | Mike Monseff | you |
| 02:35:39.50 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:35:39.64 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 02:35:52.86 | Adam Politzer | that at the conclusion of this fiscal year. So it's... requires us to live within our means and look at how we're spending our money. on a variety of projects. You heard earlier tonight and well-deserved support from the council and from Jonathan Goldman recognizing Todd Teachout. for his good work. on the streets project, you know, that is really one of the staples of Back to the Basics, fixing your roads, fixing your sidewalks, fixing your sewers, storm drains, and parks, and public facilities. Some of the other things that we do help preserve the integrity of our community and preserve our core values in supporting our cultural diversity, let alone our waterfront and historic values in our community. But it's a balancing act. So, you know, tonight is not the tough act. It's really the next council meeting where you have to prioritize them individually and then as a council, as one body, |
| 02:36:42.61 | Mike Monseff | Water. |
| 02:37:01.26 | Adam Politzer | draw the line on what projects we're going to focus on. during the budget process. So I know it's easy to get caught up on taking things off of the list and staff is really not recommending that you need to do We brought forward, we think, a pretty comprehensive list of 52 items, obviously more than what we could possibly do. And if you look at the recommendations, which was part of the second step from the staff, which is attachment one, You can see there that they talk about the proposed actions, the timings, and the cost. And it's probably over $3 million easily when you look at and all the costs associated to some of these projects. Now some of them could be phased in. Some of them could be proposed partnerships with maybe some other agencies but all in all it's obviously a mountain of an expense for us to try to accomplish. So staff is not recommending that you take all 52 items and move them forward as above the line items. Tonight really is an opportunity for you to take a look at what was proposed at the last council meeting. You took public comments on ideas. Almost all of them were ideas that were attachments from your boards and commissions committees |
| 02:38:07.12 | Mike Monseff | Oh, yeah. |
| 02:38:28.00 | Adam Politzer | and community input. Almost all of those items were listed on the list of 52. There's a handful that are not. Call your attention to the plastic bag. you heard tonight. that because of some of the legal challenges, staff is not recommending that we move forward with that at this moment in time. But as Steve Devine had shared during his presentation, If all of the cities in the county come together to work on that, well then that would be an opportunity to move that item. Thank you. up on the priority calendar or put it onto the priority calendar if the council so chooses at a later date and time. What I think you folks were asking for last meeting because of the lateness of the hour when this discussion started. was the ability to take a little bit of time and see if there are items that we didn't include in the 52 that you would like to have added tonight. And so we would recommend after you take public comment to if there are items that you want to add to this list to do that. It just makes it a little bit more difficult to rank because you're kind of watering down the numbers from 1 to 52. And if that number grows, you'll just have more items to rank, which won't make the process any easier. But it really doesn't cause any heartburn to staff because at the end of the day, you only have your budget to be able to accomplish these priorities. doesn't cause any heartburn to staff because at the end of the day you only have your budget to be able to accomplish these priorities. But if it helps move the process along then we're okay with you adding items to this list. It just makes it more difficult to manage over a course of time. So with that said, tonight's action that we need you folks to take is to adopt the master list, which could be 52 items or less or 52 items plus, depending on what you decide to add. and then agree that prior to the next council meeting, which is the 15th of May, that each of you will individually rank them and turn that into the city clerk prior to the council meeting so that she can take all that information and bring it forward at the council meeting on May 15th ready for presentation. Just as we've done in every year in the past. You give us your individual rankings. We put that into the packet. so the public can see how you individually rank them. and then we display that evening what that looks like when the averages are worked out amongst the five. And then at the meeting on the 15th, you can look at it and then move items up and down on a majority vote. You can add new items that no one thought about that someone that hasn't been able to communicate to the staff or the council or come to meetings, share something that's the greatest idea since I spread, and you want to uh, Consider it. You still have the opportunity to add items, but again, it would be on a majority vote. |
| 02:41:35.85 | Mike Monseff | that. |
| 02:41:38.85 | Adam Politzer | to place any new items on there and then you would have to insert it again based on the majority vote because it won't be in the rankings. So, |
| 02:41:48.74 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | You want to finish or do you want me to wait to ask a question? |
| 02:41:52.28 | Adam Politzer | I'm just finishing right now. So I think again, the reminder is tonight gives direction to approve the final list and agree that prior to the council packet being posted that you will individually I'll rank them and submit them to the city clerk. I think I put a date on here. |
| 02:42:20.62 | Adam Politzer | I'm not going to pull it out of my highlights, but it's obviously the Thursday prior to the council meeting. May 10th, there it is, and I recommend that motion. Um... submit your individual rankings to the city clerk by May 10th. so that it can be posted in the public agenda. |
| 02:42:40.61 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Mr. Mayor, I have a clarification. Thank you. |
| 02:42:42.62 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 02:42:42.83 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. So tonight what we're doing is we're finalizing the list. And if we have new projects to recommend to add to the list, that's what we're doing. Okay. Great. Thank you. |
| 02:42:55.50 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. Okay, any more questions to staff? |
| 02:42:59.62 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | So you're asking for new or removing? Thank you. |
| 02:43:02.65 | Mayor Kelly | Yeah, right. |
| 02:43:03.11 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 02:43:03.13 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:43:03.14 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. Thank you. That's what I thought, that was my question. |
| 02:43:08.24 | Mayor Kelly | And we vote on either one of those. That's how we do it. So any member of the public? Adam. |
| 02:43:18.60 | Adam Krivash | Thank you very much. I'm wondering if I could spend more time than three minutes because I represent the Thank you. and charge on and we'll see. |
| 02:43:31.53 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:43:31.71 | Adam Krivash | Thank you very much. I would like to thank staff for doing such a thorough job. The communication from staff to the public is excellent. We could review the material 17 pages of analysis of what each project means, who would do it, why it would be beneficial, and where it stands. I think it's exceptional work from one council meeting to another, and it was published in advance. So I would like to, on behalf of our committee, I would like to thank staff for providing this information. And I would like to leave four thoughts for your consideration when you rate the projects. Some of these projects are mutually supportive. So maybe you should not think of them as a project to be pursued by Public Works, another one by the financing department, but you should expect that these are done collaboratively because they're all for the community and if they're done collectively, they could be done more economically and more beneficially to the community. For example, Project 34 is review and update marineship specific plan, and Project 23, stabilized revenues, I think, are not only mutually complementary but essential |
| 02:45:21.28 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:45:24.08 | Adam Krivash | Both of them are essential and Project 34 could contribute to the Project 23 if it's considered together because in the long range We are talking about 300 jobs, we are talking about almost 100 companies that operate in there, an incredible real estate value and efforts to conserve public monies could not conserve all the historic buildings there. So there has to be a vehicle for public-private collaboration. And The infrastructure cannot be paid for without assessment districts there has to be a public participation in working with the community to upgrade the area, to provide the money that can preserve the marine-oriented uses in the marine ship area. So that's one idea that I'd like you to consider when evaluating the merits of these projects. |
| 02:46:14.54 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:46:14.83 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 02:46:14.94 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:46:37.84 | Adam Krivash | The other one is 21. The Community and Economic Development Study And number 31, local economic incentive program. they should be thought of together. because they are mutually supported. maybe staff could combine these for your consideration. |
| 02:47:01.64 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:47:05.38 | Adam Krivash | 17, 18, and 39, are all related to the downtown, improving conditions in downtown. We are all trying to prepare for peak loads, not for the empty streets, but for when there is an incredible demand on efficient circulation, pleasant environment, at the same time top business opportunities. |
| 02:47:15.93 | Casey | We are all trying to |
| 02:47:17.30 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 02:47:37.43 | Adam Krivash | I think This is all calling for a comprehensive approach. to the downtown area. So we shouldn't just talk about parking. We shouldn't talk about the striping. or Amen. just the traffic. We should talk about how this whole thing works together with the land uses. Who needs what? and there could be a committee composed of interested business people who could contribute this process. |
| 02:48:07.81 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:48:12.73 | Adam Krivash | the The city has incredible staff resources, It has. extensive volunteer resources Many volunteers in the city, as it was pointed out recently at the Spinnaker's, our main department depend on volunteer support. Volunteers are ready to help. So it will be up to the city manager's office to decide how to enlist these resources to combine projects to the city's best benefits. I'd be very happy to submit these comments in writing if you wish and thank you very much for the opportunity to talk longer than three minutes. |
| 02:49:01.58 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you, Adam. |
| 02:49:05.33 | Mayor Kelly | Anybody else from the public care to comment on this? list. Okay, seeing none, we'll bring it back up here. Exclusions and inclusions. |
| 02:49:17.50 | Adam Politzer | Can I just do a quick response to Adam and also appreciate his comments and his continued support of the various public works projects and city planning. |
| 02:49:19.51 | Mayor Kelly | I don't know. |
| 02:49:31.30 | Adam Politzer | In some cases, it's purposely separated out. And as you remember in past years, you have combined some of these where it makes sense. you Thank you. The reason why staff didn't group them together now It, uh... All together, there are some that are obviously But all of them. is that sometimes if you group too many of them, you actually never get anything done. You study it, you talk about it, you have committees about it, you don't get things done. So some things can fall into the maintenance. We just need to do them because the improvements are necessary. Other things may be more tied to long-term planning. and you can group more things in there. So you just want to be careful that You don't put things into one big giant category, throw a bunch of money at it, and then a year you have nothing but another report or another committee study that sits on the shelf. And that's also what we hear from our various committees and groups that support the city is that they do a lot of work and sometimes it just comes to the council, gets delivered, and then no action happens. So there'll be some things that make sense and I think if the council is united behind it as a priority and you fund it appropriately and have a vision for it, well then there's the possibility of it actually making it to a capital project and being done. |
| 02:50:45.38 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 02:50:51.80 | Adam Politzer | But in some cases, I remind the council that we know that we don't have a lot of money this year back to the basics is still something that is important to our community. You can just go to the roads. To Councilmember Ford's comment, the people on CASNOW really appreciate it, just having put on there to stop the water. from coming in. That's a real basic, program that was executed by staff. but it took dollars. into our streets program for us to actually do some of the simple things that went through. So I'm not arguing against any of the I just want to remind you that sometimes it's easy to group them together. It makes people feel better that it's on the list, but it may not lead to any successes, and that's always a precaution that your city manager needs to communicate to its council. |
| 02:51:43.62 | Mayor Kelly | Okay. Where did the Waterfront Committee Report. Go. Is it dropped off the list? Yeah, O.M. |
| 02:51:59.70 | Adam Politzer | Where did it go? It depends on who you ask. You have a committee, a waterfront committee that's working as part of the America's Cup that has looked at that plan. When you look at the discussion about Bridgeway, Gate 6 Road to the Ferry Landing, when we looked at those plans, those are other things that are incorporated. it. look at some of these items in here, obviously the Heathway, some of the discussion for the marineship would obviously focus around what was on that plan. |
| 02:52:11.77 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:52:11.97 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 02:52:28.78 | Casey | Uh-huh. |
| 02:52:37.53 | Adam Politzer | The economic studies obviously talked about some of the things that were possible that were low hanging fruit from that plan. So the plan is, you know, some would say that the plan is a foundation to work from. Others would say the plan is a pass that the city should follow. but there are some items on that plan that are more controversial Another. |
| 02:53:01.21 | Chris Gruel | I know that. |
| 02:53:02.29 | Adam Politzer | Um, |
| 02:53:02.36 | Chris Gruel | Thank you. |
| 02:53:03.22 | Adam Politzer | Some folks would say it should go in a closet and be locked up and never looked at. Other people would say that should be the city's marching orders. |
| 02:53:08.06 | Chris Gruel | Yes. |
| 02:53:08.13 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:53:08.15 | Chris Gruel | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:53:09.92 | Mayor Kelly | Okay. So, shall we start with deletions? |
| 02:53:16.19 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Can I ask a question to staff? There's some things that |
| 02:53:16.92 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 02:53:16.97 | Fred Kral | question is. |
| 02:53:19.98 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | that are sort of on here but aren't, and whether you still consider them special projects or whether they're now so ongoing that they've become part of somebody's job. And like say, Yitachi and Vinyadalmar, those two parks, in terms of the ADA compliance and all the stuff we've been, I don't even know where it is now, but is that a special project or is that now those two things, special projects, or those now basically just part of the day-to-day? |
| 02:53:38.23 | Mike Monseff | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:53:38.32 | Keith Stone King | Good. |
| 02:53:38.39 | Mike Monseff | THE FAMILY IS A FAMILY |
| 02:53:47.38 | Adam Politzer | It's easy to make the argument that it's part of day-to-day, but it's really not. The day-to-day is just the whole ADA transition plan that's going to be part of the budget that we're going to be looking at. Because this is part of a legal settlement, part of this is that it's something that we think needs this level of attention that stays as a high priority. Otherwise, staff could say, we've got a hundred other projects that are equally important and focus on them. |
| 02:53:57.77 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Right. So it would- Thank you. |
| 02:54:13.96 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | So is that number one, the ADA plan phase two? |
| 02:54:15.75 | Adam Politzer | the EPA plan. |
| 02:54:16.47 | Mayor Kelly | Vigne Del Mar is right there over in the general phone call. |
| 02:54:18.94 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Okay. |
| 02:54:19.71 | Casey | Oh, good. |
| 02:54:19.95 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:54:20.41 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:54:22.67 | Mayor Kelly | Yep. Well, I think it is. The 770. Is that right? |
| 02:54:24.71 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Is that right? |
| 02:54:25.97 | Unknown (Councilmember) | That's it. |
| 02:54:26.55 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 02:54:26.56 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:54:26.68 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | I'm not sure. |
| 02:54:26.85 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. Yes. That's what VDM stands for. |
| 02:54:27.48 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. I'm not sure. Thank you. Okay, just checking. |
| 02:54:30.78 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:54:31.05 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 02:54:31.17 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:54:32.64 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | The sort of ferry landing changes and monitoring that and being on top of what the district is doing, is that a special project or is that day to day? Is that your... No. |
| 02:54:33.21 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:54:33.23 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:54:33.25 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:54:33.45 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:54:33.48 | Mayor Kelly | Sure. |
| 02:54:33.67 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 02:54:40.40 | Adam Politzer | Enjoying me. |
| 02:54:40.92 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:54:43.35 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 02:54:43.39 | Mayor Kelly | He's a hero. |
| 02:54:43.69 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. I would say the Ferry Landing is part of the project, but I would say that's part of the downtown uh, Jonathan, help me here. I'm thinking of the, it's part of the parking lot. It's part of the, Humboldt, or is it Humboldt, whatever there is. I'm trying to talk and read at the same time. |
| 02:55:05.55 | Mayor Kelly | talk and read at the same time. |
| 02:55:09.76 | Jonathon Goldman | Yeah, keep talking and I'll find it. No, I'm just trying to make sure because... |
| 02:55:12.26 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. No. Sure. Number five. Sometimes. Because these things are around so long that they become, we forget it's actually a special project, and it drops off this list because we assume that it's just on its own momentum, but it still takes up a big chunk of people's time. |
| 02:55:14.51 | Mayor Kelly | Yes. |
| 02:55:14.98 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 02:55:15.08 | Jonathon Goldman | All right. |
| 02:55:15.16 | Casey | Yeah. |
| 02:55:24.36 | Adam Politzer | Yeah. Number five, it spells it out right there. |
| 02:55:30.92 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | But that's just this project you're doing right now with the sidewalks and the... |
| 02:55:30.98 | Adam Politzer | That's just this project you're doing right now. |
| 02:55:36.97 | Adam Politzer | No, it'll stretch through. So it's a continuation of that sidewalk project, but also the conversations that you and I had |
| 02:55:37.51 | Vice Mayor Leon | It'll, |
| 02:55:45.02 | Adam Politzer | when you were the mayor with Charles McLaughlin about connecting. |
| 02:55:47.33 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 02:55:48.81 | Adam Politzer | the walkway, the commuters are parking in line three, but there really is no way for them other than the walking through the parking lot. |
| 02:55:50.65 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 02:55:50.67 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Right. and through the parking lot. So, but that's... Maybe we should just rephrase then the Greenway, whatever your... Since the Anchor Street stuff's going to be done, right, soon. There's an anchor... Yes. Anchor and Bay. That'll be done, so maybe we can rephrase that. |
| 02:56:03.00 | Charlie Francis | Yes. |
| 02:56:07.04 | Jonathon Goldman | Just for the record, there is one other Item that specific coordination with the tenants at the ferry landing is mentioned in. And I'm just leaping through. Here we go. Item 39. |
| 02:56:26.50 | Casey | Mmm. |
| 02:56:31.52 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Mr. Mayor, I have a comment. |
| 02:56:33.13 | Casey | I have a comment. OK. |
| 02:56:36.99 | Unknown (Councilmember) | What about the downtown bathrooms? Would that be a project here? |
| 02:56:45.73 | Mayor Kelly | Well, it's underway. Thank you. |
| 02:56:48.38 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, I mean I'll defer to the Public Works Director. The only comment I'll have is that it's well underway now. Before last year, we... |
| 02:56:50.05 | Mayor Kelly | of |
| 02:56:58.19 | Adam Politzer | still hadn't agreed upon. a conceptual design, let alone selecting an architect, and it's now gone. It's now in the planning, |
| 02:57:08.78 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah, but as far as the number of capital-like projects, forget the money side of it, because that's a separate discussion, but just as far as mindshare and staffing time, do we need to call that out as a separate project, or should it be left inside? Don't, don't. Because otherwise, you just won't do many things on this list. |
| 02:57:11.25 | Adam Politzer | like, |
| 02:57:17.80 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:57:17.81 | Casey | Staff time. |
| 02:57:18.55 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 02:57:25.07 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 02:57:28.95 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 02:57:29.00 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, I think that, you know, it's a budgeted item. We have money budgeted for it. Staff and resources have been allocated. |
| 02:57:29.02 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 02:57:36.05 | Adam Politzer | Again, we're well underway. We have a timeline that has it complete December, I don't think it needs to be pulled out. |
| 02:57:41.99 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Okay, the other question I had was the... the Saucetal Foundation Plaza that we had presented? And will we help them facilitate that? Or will it take staff time? |
| 02:57:53.03 | Adam Politzer | Will it take staff time? Yeah, I think that's a very good question. That's a very good example of where your community group is going to do the majority of the work. |
| 02:58:03.93 | Casey | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:58:03.97 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. and basically tonight you did the best thing you could have done It said, yes, we like it, send it to the Planning Commission. and then their promise to use to raise all the funds and as you've seen with Paul Leffingwell volunteering his time, you have a real community grassroots project. So that's not gonna take 40 hours of staff time at this moment in time is something changes, then we would come back and say, Paul has stepped away or the foundation has struggled with its fundraising abilities and would like to ask city staff to intervene. |
| 02:58:41.16 | Unknown (Councilmember) | So I have a follow-up question then, Mr. Mayor. |
| 02:58:43.82 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 02:58:44.36 | Unknown (Councilmember) | So I would have thought then the community garden would have been similar to that because I thought the community garden was being driven by a separate kind of, you know, a group as well. |
| 02:58:57.75 | Adam Politzer | Right, so just to remind everyone again, Community Garden last year was below the line and then they came forward and made a pitch to the council and the council by majority vote moved them above the line. And what they were requesting was the ability to meet with staff because what happened when they got pushed below the line is I basically say, There's no staff, we're not going to meet with you. to continue to work out and problem solve and suggest other possibilities. So by moving it above the line, gave them the ability to work with our Parks and Recreation Director and our Public Works Director for the most part, and then we were able to bring in both myself and the Community Development Director to continue that. They are planning on coming to the Council to give you their new conceptual ideas which was what you allowed them to do by meeting the staff. Staff said bring this forward and see what council says. |
| 02:59:56.23 | Unknown (Councilmember) | So as a follow-up question then, does that mean that any project that lands above the line automatically gets up to 40 hours of staff time? |
| 03:00:07.20 | Adam Politzer | That should be the minimum threshold that you're agreeing to allow staff to spend 40 hours because that's traditionally when you combine two or three staff members to participate in these meetings, it easily adds up to 40 hours. |
| 03:00:20.96 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Okay. So it says here at least 40 hours of staff time, but it doesn't give a cap. So anything above the line can be a minimum 40 hours and higher. |
| 03:00:27.08 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 03:00:35.08 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, I think when you look at the attachment one, when it talks about on the cost, in some cases it gives you a hard dollar, in other cases it just talks about staff time. |
| 03:00:44.21 | Casey | Gives you staff time. Yeah. |
| 03:00:46.25 | Adam Politzer | Items under 40 hours, you know, people come and talk to staff every day with all types of wild ideas, some better than others. And so up to 40 hours, we're not limiting people to come and talk to us. |
| 03:00:46.52 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:01:01.19 | Adam Politzer | about a variety of ideas and again the foundations They started years ago talking to us about what they wanted to do almost immediately Frank's passing. There was talk about we need to do something. So again, as long as it didn't elevate over 40 hours, we were able to keep it at the staff and so there isn't a cap. there isn't a cap. The cap is really based on on the council's direction. |
| 03:01:30.01 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:01:30.02 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:01:31.59 | Mayor Kelly | Okay, are we happy with this list? Any additions? |
| 03:01:34.09 | Casey | missions |
| 03:01:34.80 | Unknown (Councilmember) | I have another question. |
| 03:01:36.81 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:01:36.84 | Unknown (Councilmember) | you |
| 03:01:36.91 | Mayor Kelly | you |
| 03:01:36.96 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Mr. Mayor, the EPA order, that's the sewer, right? That has been going on for a long time now. That's not considered just normal at this point, normal work to repair the sewer? |
| 03:01:37.48 | Mayor Kelly | Mr. Mayor. |
| 03:01:38.31 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:01:52.25 | Adam Politzer | to repair the sewer. Another very good question and I'm sure the public would ask, you know, one of the same thing, absolutely. If it was normal, just sewer work, where we were out there with our sewer division working on the pipes, and that's absolutely the case. but because we're under an administrative order and they have check-ins every so often that we have to meet, We don't have the ability to say, well, we'll put it off another month. Deadline comes, your report has to be in and again, |
| 03:02:15.39 | Casey | Deadline. |
| 03:02:15.96 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 03:02:18.61 | Adam Politzer | We're working cooperatively. with Tam Valley and with the Sussler Emergency Sanitary District so that we're maximizing our resources versus each of us doing our own independent work. deadlines. to comply and then I think a 10-year, I think we're supposed to be making progress. not just in the design phase, which is what we've been in now, but actually the capital |
| 03:02:40.56 | Casey | Mm-hmm. |
| 03:02:40.97 | Mike Monseff | Yeah. |
| 03:02:43.15 | Adam Politzer | phase, which is Gate 5 Road, Spinnaker Lane, some of the other things that have been identified. So we haven't |
| 03:02:48.58 | Mike Monseff | I'm going to get him. So we have. |
| 03:02:50.81 | Adam Politzer | got to the capital projects, but the EPA doesn't care what the excuses are, find the money and get the work done. Our excuse is that the state |
| 03:02:58.15 | Mike Monseff | Good job. |
| 03:03:00.53 | Adam Politzer | state revolving loans. funds. have not been administered and their process has taken you know, a very long time. We eventually now tapped into that and we started Um, starting getting the approvals and the money will be there as we now roll out these capital projects. But the EPA can't fall into general because we want to make sure that that item never slips. And it obviously takes more than 40 hours. It obviously takes a sizable amount of money. And that's why we have fees that the public support it. |
| 03:03:31.86 | Unknown (Councilmember) | and that's why we have It's just a given that it's going, we're all going to mark it high and it's going to be there. |
| 03:03:36.79 | Adam Politzer | Yeah. |
| 03:03:40.54 | Unknown (Councilmember) | We would like you. |
| 03:03:40.57 | Adam Politzer | We would like you to do so. |
| 03:03:41.82 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Ha ha. you . Okay, 21. The question I have here is that the Council did not, the Council accepted this report, but they did not approve the recommendations. I mean, I'm sure some of the recommendations are very good. Some may not be so good. implement the recommendations of the committee seems a little bit far-reaching and something that... |
| 03:04:12.89 | Adam Politzer | Sure, good. Very, very good question again. When we looked at that report, I think what the Business Advisory Committee was asking for was the Council to do certain things. was to hold a joint meeting of the Planning Commission and Council have a discussion about how do we implement some of those actions. I changed the direction with my conversation with with Adam that why don't you go out to the community first? Go to the Rotary Club, the Lions Club, go to some of the community groups and say this is what we're proposing and see if there's any in the community and then come back. What I recommended, as you remember that evening, is that, and I'm sure that there were several members on the council that are shared my own opinion was there was low hanging fruit there that we could support some of those recommendations And those could be the first steps is to take this report. See if there is consensus from the council and the community to take some of those low hanging fruit recommendations and move those forwards. the things that are more complicated or more controversial put those on hold for further discussion and ask the BAC to continue to work on it and bring it back before the council for additional discussion or hold a study session with the Planning Commission and the BAC to talk about some of the complexities. |
| 03:05:36.38 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Well, then I would recommend that this be changed to reflect that. I think we don't want to say implement the recommendations, but review and determine which recommendations should be. implemented or something of that nature so that we're not just, so it's understood what we're doing here. you can just say consider. |
| 03:06:00.67 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:06:00.68 | Unknown (Councilmember) | If I may, Mr. Mayor, have a comment on that? So my take on this and voting to accept it, I was receiving the economic study. I agree with Council Member Ford in terms of we did not vote to |
| 03:06:01.34 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yeah. |
| 03:06:20.12 | Unknown (Councilmember) | implement the recommendations. if You, as city manager, see some low-hanging fruit that you think you know, is not controversial. I would take it a step further and list the individual low-hanging fruit on this list because before I vote, to put it above the line or anywhere on the line, I would like to know specifically what I'm voting to dedicate staff time to. |
| 03:06:50.16 | Adam Politzer | Right, so that's kind of a chicken and an egg situation. I apologize for laughing, but what the For us to spend time on it, any time on it, you have to say spend time on it. And the direction could be exactly what you just said, city staff spend 42 hours coming back with a recommendation of the low hanging crew and how you would propose implementing that. And so we would go back to the BAC and we would look at what we think is the low-hanging fruit. we'd bring that back to the council and before the council spent dollars implement anything. they would have to agree and approve. that we are all on the same page. It's hard for us to say let's go back and we know that we won't do that by prior to you guys ranking this by May 10th and spelling out what those low hanging fruit are but I that just my memory of the meeting, there was consensus from you folks that there were low-hanging fruit on there. For me to tell you what they were would take time to do that. |
| 03:07:53.85 | Unknown (Councilmember) | So in other words, this was just a sense that you had that there might be something that could be implemented that would not be controversial. Yes. Okay, my recollection personally was that the study itself took a direction that I had specifically expressed concerns about. And so, you know, I do not recall any non-controversial, you know, recommendations. But I keep an open mind. |
| 03:08:17.27 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | But I keep an open mind. But there are definitely, not to interrupt you, but one of them was economic incentives for marine-based businesses, which is already on here as a calendar item, a priority calendar item. So there are things in there that are sort of less controversial in nature. |
| 03:08:32.80 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Okay, so that's kind of a broad brush stroke. I mean, yeah, on the surface I agree with that. |
| 03:08:38.80 | Adam Politzer | And I don't want to mislead anyone here. |
| 03:08:39.38 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Bye. |
| 03:08:40.49 | Unknown (Councilmember) | If it's already on the priority list, then we're |
| 03:08:43.07 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | I don't think anybody's saying to adopt the whole plan |
| 03:08:43.66 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. and implement the whole thing. There are absolutely items on there that are controversial. |
| 03:08:45.57 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | and implement the whole thing. Thank you. |
| 03:08:49.06 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:08:49.08 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Very nice. |
| 03:08:49.42 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yeah, so consider is a better word. I believe we should change that to consider, if we can agree on that. |
| 03:08:56.18 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, so you folks need to. |
| 03:08:57.72 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Do we agree on that? |
| 03:08:59.00 | Adam Politzer | Sure. |
| 03:09:02.09 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Good for me. |
| 03:09:03.19 | Unknown (Councilmember) | then. |
| 03:09:04.37 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | So just to clarify, so the Yitakchi and downtown bathrooms and South Lido Foundation thing, those were all not needed to be called out as specific things. Yes? Okay. |
| 03:09:17.01 | Adam Politzer | That's right. |
| 03:09:17.21 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. Thank you. That's very windy. Thank you. |
| 03:09:23.74 | Casey | Okay. |
| 03:09:23.93 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Okay, are you ready for some new items? |
| 03:09:28.09 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. Why don't we go to ones that we might want to remove? |
| 03:09:28.40 | Casey | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:09:29.14 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Well, and... |
| 03:09:30.69 | Casey | ones that were |
| 03:09:33.04 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. All right, sure. |
| 03:09:35.22 | Vice Mayor Leon | Now, what do we do on 24 firehouse to develop a council fire? I can't see us doing that next year. I really can't. |
| 03:09:35.59 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:09:43.10 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Can 61 students fit in Firehouse 2? |
| 03:09:43.79 | Vice Mayor Leon | students. |
| 03:09:45.61 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:09:45.63 | Keith Stone King | Thank you. |
| 03:09:45.80 | Vicki Nichols | Ha, ha, ha. |
| 03:09:46.42 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | I'm not. |
| 03:09:47.64 | Vicki Nichols | I would agree. |
| 03:09:49.83 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Well, I think we better come up with something, because the problem of what we did, the city did the last time, is just let it sit and deteriorate for years. And I know we're maintaining it, but we had a lot of expense just to bring it up to snuff for the fire folks to use. |
| 03:09:55.03 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 03:09:55.04 | Vicki Nichols | I didn't. |
| 03:09:55.42 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 03:10:07.13 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | So we better have some, we should have some concept, even if it's not, has anything to do with selling it or not. But just like maybe there's somebody who can actually use it as a space. |
| 03:10:16.04 | Adam Politzer | Right, again, we are using the space, we're generating revenue there, and based on community input and council direction, |
| 03:10:16.15 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Right. We are using this space for |
| 03:10:19.82 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:10:24.73 | Adam Politzer | obviously improve the maintenance outside there. You can see that it's been cleaned up and I think Lauren... |
| 03:10:27.80 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yes. But it's always better to have somebody in a building than have it |
| 03:10:32.52 | Adam Politzer | I understand. I understand. And if we use less than 40 hours, we can continue to to have these types of discussions. Again, you may be able to find these as part of the five-year plan and all these different |
| 03:10:46.66 | Vice Mayor Leon | Right. |
| 03:10:46.97 | Mike Monseff | of the |
| 03:10:48.84 | Adam Politzer | economic discussions that may be able to wrap this into it. But I agree if you look at all the things that are going on that seems to be the maintenance side of it. It's not going to be an issue this year and the revenue seems to be... |
| 03:10:53.74 | Mike Monseff | THE FAMILY. |
| 03:10:57.58 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:11:01.75 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | I'll live there, but I'll have to wear an aluminum hat to protect myself from the cell phone. |
| 03:11:06.44 | Vice Mayor Leon | and we'll get you those questions. |
| 03:11:07.32 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 03:11:07.69 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:11:08.05 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. |
| 03:11:08.40 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | you |
| 03:11:08.48 | Vice Mayor Leon | Red flag. |
| 03:11:09.04 | Adam Politzer | So we need to know if you're recommending to delete that. |
| 03:11:12.75 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. You wear chicken wire. That's actually supposed to work. Chicken wire in your walls. |
| 03:11:18.41 | Adam Politzer | Would the council like to delete? Yes, I think. |
| 03:11:19.70 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yes, I think, does everybody have a problem with not, with, not, with getting, you just take it off the list. |
| 03:11:23.69 | Adam Politzer | WITH THE FAMILY. |
| 03:11:23.87 | Vice Mayor Leon | With getting it below the pilot. With getting it, you can just take it off the list. |
| 03:11:26.52 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:11:26.66 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:11:27.52 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:11:27.62 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. |
| 03:11:27.64 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:11:27.69 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 03:11:28.55 | Mayor Kelly | Fire station? Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:11:31.25 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | As long as you have it on your head to think about, there's somebody who can use you upstairs for something that's productive. |
| 03:11:31.28 | Mayor Kelly | As long as you have it on your head to think about. |
| 03:11:38.89 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | I still think we should offer it to Cal Fire and the county to just put wildfire stuff in there. For free, frankly. So we'll take care of it. |
| 03:11:45.64 | Keith Stone King | you |
| 03:11:45.84 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. |
| 03:11:45.96 | Casey | for free, frankly. |
| 03:11:47.03 | Vice Mayor Leon | So we'll take care of it. Thank you. |
| 03:11:49.64 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:11:49.98 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:11:50.00 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:11:50.82 | Casey | Yes. |
| 03:11:51.04 | Mayor Kelly | . |
| 03:11:51.09 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:11:51.55 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:11:51.62 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:11:51.63 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:11:51.67 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:11:51.78 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:11:52.65 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | that. |
| 03:11:54.75 | Mayor Kelly | What's the green energy generation? |
| 03:11:57.17 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah, what that is, and I thought about that again, because that was to sort of offer MLK roofs to the MEA to, if they want to put a solar farm up there, God bless, just to let them spend the money to to study it, see if it'll work. We would get free power out of the deal. They would get somebody else to do it. I don't think the NBA would actually do it themselves. But that may take a little staff time to see if there's any down, if we're going to have to sink money in the roofs or something like that. Thank you. |
| 03:12:30.23 | Vice Mayor Leon | you |
| 03:12:30.40 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:12:30.55 | Vice Mayor Leon | to tackle this kind of thing. |
| 03:12:32.03 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | you |
| 03:12:32.23 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. |
| 03:12:32.27 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. Well, it's been on there for three years. |
| 03:12:35.59 | Mayor Kelly | Why wouldn't we treat that like these other projects where staff isn't, all staff has to just pick up the phone and call the MBA and say, are you interested? |
| 03:12:46.29 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:12:46.31 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:12:46.34 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah. |
| 03:12:47.00 | Mayor Kelly | I think you can do that. |
| 03:12:47.05 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | I think if you – |
| 03:12:48.26 | Adam Politzer | Well, you know, I recommend that you keep it on the list here, but that's what I would give to your sustainability commission and your green team to work with MEA and then have them come forward. |
| 03:12:56.67 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | and then have them come forward. Yeah, see if they'll run with that. Keep it on your list. |
| 03:12:58.15 | Adam Politzer | Yes, see if they'll Keep it on your list at this main ICA at any time. |
| 03:13:03.88 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah. Heathway, is that still a separate project or is that now wrapped into any other projects going on down there or is that just caught up in the land? Not quite there yet. |
| 03:13:15.86 | Adam Politzer | caught up in the limb. Not quite there yet, but it's on the eve of getting there. |
| 03:13:18.10 | Vice Mayor Leon | is, is, getting there. |
| 03:13:24.41 | Mayor Kelly | You're waiting for the money, right? |
| 03:13:27.42 | Vice Mayor Leon | Where's Charlie? |
| 03:13:27.62 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:13:30.62 | Jonathon Goldman | Actually, Mr. Mayor, we're waiting for the low-hanging fruit. |
| 03:13:31.84 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:13:34.57 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 03:13:34.59 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. Is that oranges or oranges? |
| 03:13:37.69 | Jonathon Goldman | Heathway, yeah, we were having that discussion in the audience. The objective with Heathway at the moment is to combine it with the Gate 5 Road sewer project, which is also being combined with storm drainage project. And I think it's listed that way in the calendar. I don't have a number in front of me. The driving part of that project, because it's the most significant component, is the sanitary sewer. and that project has taken kind of a backseat, for lack of a better term, to the Spinnaker Anchor Project, which, as the city manager mentioned, we're now into reimbursements for, we've received reimbursement for design costs from the state revolving fund, so we start covering debt service on that. That project is intended to go to construction and be constructed by the end of this calendar year and we will staff will be coming back to council to request a budget to complete the design of the gate five road project complete the right-of-way evaluations that the state revolving fund we know now in great great detail is going to require before they approve that project, as well as integrate storm drainage and potentially State Revolving Fund monies for storm water quality improvements as part of that and Heathway. |
| 03:13:41.84 | Vice Mayor Leon | in the audience. |
| 03:13:51.75 | Mike Monseff | Okay. |
| 03:13:56.90 | Casey | That's right. |
| 03:14:02.18 | Casey | in the Yeah, yeah. |
| 03:15:16.01 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 03:15:16.06 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:15:16.23 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | What is the jeopardy of losing? It gets lost. I think we should keep it. I think we must keep it up there. |
| 03:15:16.97 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 03:15:17.00 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. |
| 03:15:17.02 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 03:15:17.03 | Vice Mayor Leon | here |
| 03:15:22.64 | Vice Mayor Leon | I think we must keep it up there. Oh yeah, no, we're going to lose them if we don't. Have we been communicating with them at all? Yes, yeah. I think we're in touch with them. |
| 03:15:29.79 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yes. |
| 03:15:30.75 | Casey | I think we're in touch. |
| 03:15:31.40 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:15:31.65 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah. |
| 03:15:31.92 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:15:31.97 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Oh, yeah. |
| 03:15:32.78 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:15:32.83 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:15:32.90 | Mayor Kelly | you |
| 03:15:33.10 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Jonathan, do you want to, should we, does it make sense given the magnitude and the lead time and the dollar amount to just right now storm drainage is sort of incorporated in the general concept in this asset replacement one, which I can't remember what number that is, number four, because it makes sense to... Some of these are higher priorities than others. Like say you're already working on street lights stuff, but versus the... |
| 03:15:50.31 | Casey | THE FAMILY. |
| 03:16:03.04 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | cost of the storm drain issue that's going to come down on us pretty soon is should we carve that out and stick it as a separate thing because it's going to start eating up so much of your and Todd's time. |
| 03:16:15.81 | Jonathon Goldman | What's the other alternative? |
| 03:16:17.23 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Well, if you leave it in here, it kind of seems, eh, it's as important as the Streetlight Project or water taxis. That's what water access means. I don't know what water access means. |
| 03:16:27.62 | Jonathon Goldman | I appreciate the question. Certainly our staff's intention in providing the detailed recommendations here in the priority calendar as well as in the budget process which we're also engaged in at the moment is to focus on storm drain mapping, condition assessment, and hydraulic evaluations along with a potential fee study for storm drainage with the timing, the intent being to develop a storm drain funding plan coupled with reevaluation of our sanitary sewer rates within this upcoming fiscal year. And as I recall, the funding for that consulting work would be split between the general fund and the sewer enterprise, both of which the general fund piece should It should show up as a capital project, which we have not had our finance committee meeting on. But the sewer enterprise is funding, would fund the rate study as well as any of the other capital project design. So the short answer is yes, we're kind of automatically doing that because of the, well, maybe it's just my personal bias, I don't know, or internal priorities. That doesn't mean that we intend to ignore or minimize the importance of the other elements that we've identified as needing asset replacement funding. But in the short term, you know, the biggest bang for the buck I think really is to look at storm drainage and try to identify a way to create a revenue stream to address that issue. |
| 03:17:15.67 | Casey | Okay. |
| 03:17:29.28 | John Robbacher | Sure. |
| 03:17:29.72 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 03:18:27.13 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:18:27.15 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 03:18:27.28 | Casey | That is shit. Right. |
| 03:18:29.41 | Adam Politzer | Hmm. Just to make sure that no one thinks that water access is water taxis. That is your piers, your marinas at Edgewater, the Tourney Street, the pier next to Horizons. The Bozange. Yeah, it's water access where people can access the water. |
| 03:18:30.25 | Jonathon Goldman | just a moment. |
| 03:18:30.64 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:18:40.90 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | I know, fine. |
| 03:18:41.85 | Mike Monseff | Yeah. |
| 03:18:41.98 | Mayor Kelly | as well. |
| 03:18:43.69 | Mike Monseff | Okay. Excellent. Thank you. |
| 03:18:45.68 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:18:45.80 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 03:18:46.39 | Mayor Kelly | So number 40, pension studies and other post-employment benefits analysis, what are we proposing there that we don't already have? |
| 03:19:01.20 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | I would keep it on the list just in pending what the current contract negotiations. |
| 03:19:07.13 | Adam Politzer | Would you like Charlie to talk on that one or... |
| 03:19:09.25 | Mayor Kelly | Just ever so briefly, |
| 03:19:20.00 | Charlie Francis | Thank you. The pension studies and other post-employment benefits was the pot of money that we used for the annual Bartell report and to do special studies for us as well as the tri-annual other post-employment benefits. If a significant event occurred this year, we would have to redo our other post-employment benefit. A significant event would be fire annexation. And so we were required by GASB accounting standards to redo the other post employment Okay. |
| 03:19:54.75 | Unknown (Councilmember) | So the fact that we have pension studies on here too, which is good, and so it's not limited to just capital improvement projects then. So I guess one topic would be consideration of ABAD withdrawal. |
| 03:20:22.59 | Mayor Kelly | That's not a project. That's an agenda item. |
| 03:20:28.11 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Excuse me, Mr. Mayor, do we have that on the agenda for any time soon? |
| 03:20:32.75 | Unknown (Councilmember) | I requested it during future agenda, I think in the last meeting, last city council meeting, |
| 03:20:41.59 | Mayor Kelly | Do you want to vote on it? |
| 03:20:43.09 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:20:43.67 | Unknown (Councilmember) | I would like to see it on there with anyone else. |
| 03:20:45.54 | Unknown (Councilmember) | you |
| 03:20:47.36 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Well, Well, the question is, does it require more than 40 hours of staff time? |
| 03:20:48.93 | Mayor Kelly | Yeah. |
| 03:20:48.95 | Unknown (Councilmember) | I'm sure. |
| 03:20:49.15 | Mayor Kelly | to the next one. |
| 03:20:49.22 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:20:49.29 | Mayor Kelly | I said, |
| 03:20:49.94 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:20:51.40 | Mayor Kelly | It's just an issue. Do you want to withdraw or don't you? I know, but I mean, as far |
| 03:20:55.28 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | I know, but I mean, as far as it being a, is it going to be more than 40 hours of staff time if you decide if it got put on the agenda? No. |
| 03:20:56.26 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:20:56.46 | Mayor Kelly | you |
| 03:20:57.24 | Unknown (Councilmember) | All right. |
| 03:20:57.52 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:20:57.71 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yeah. |
| 03:20:58.62 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:20:58.65 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:20:58.75 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:20:58.91 | Unknown (Councilmember) | or, Thank you. |
| 03:20:59.92 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:21:00.02 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:21:00.19 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:21:00.34 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:21:00.53 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:21:03.80 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Let's ask our city manager that question. |
| 03:21:03.82 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Right. |
| 03:21:04.31 | Unknown (Councilmember) | That's Esquer City. Because the issue would be consideration of ABAC withdrawal. In other words, pros and cons. |
| 03:21:17.49 | Adam Politzer | Adam is laughing again. The quick answer would be I would leave it still in the Housing Element Task Force |
| 03:21:17.65 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Adam's laughing again. |
| 03:21:19.59 | Casey | I don't know. |
| 03:21:25.62 | Adam Politzer | as working with our consultants as we bring forward information That would be a good question to ask our consultants. either to Uh, take on separately to give a recommendation to council. So that would be a cost. I personally would not direct staff to take this on. I would much rather you if this is something that the majority of the council would like to look into is to hire a consultant to bring you back the pros and cons of that type of discussion. So it would belong on the priority calendar if in fact you were going to hire a consultant to help you analyze that choice. |
| 03:22:07.98 | Unknown (Councilmember) | And I would respond, Mr. Mayor, I would respond that rather than hiring a consultant, it would be as simple as just inviting representatives from the Court of Madera to make a presentation. |
| 03:22:10.83 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, I would respond. |
| 03:22:13.17 | Casey | I know. |
| 03:22:14.88 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 03:22:14.98 | Casey | I found that. |
| 03:22:29.86 | Mayor Kelly | you The last thing I want to do is- They've gone through the pros and cons. |
| 03:22:32.09 | Unknown (Councilmember) | They've gone through the pros and cons. |
| 03:22:34.70 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. Well, if they hired a |
| 03:22:36.29 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Well, if they hired a consultant who reviewed it already, why wouldn't we want to leverage that? |
| 03:22:42.65 | Mayor Kelly | It's not on my watch. |
| 03:22:44.24 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Well, I think the last question is a good one. If Corte Madera has hired a consultant to work on this, then it would be nice if staff just did a little bit of footwork and got us the report, or if we could get some sort of an overview as to what's going on here, because it's become a bigger issue. Thank you. Um... To who? Well, to me, certainly, I think that the regional agencies have way too much power in our local plants. |
| 03:23:15.39 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yeah. Absolutely. And I think it's a a key topic that's worthy of consideration. All right, put it on this thing. |
| 03:23:24.17 | Adam Politzer | Well, let me just give you another opinion, and you guys do what you like. |
| 03:23:24.20 | Unknown (Councilmember) | you |
| 03:23:24.28 | Adam Krivash | Well, |
| 03:23:24.50 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:23:24.55 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. that may be |
| 03:23:25.52 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:23:30.16 | Adam Politzer | That's your power. Um, Being consistent with how our committees are functioning, I would Recommend that you invite. anybody that you would like to come to the housing element and give a presentation to the Housing Element Committee Thank you. and then the committee and the public that would like to attend would have that opportunity. to hear the information and if the housing element wants them to make a recommendation to the council, They could do that. You can put it on here. and see where it falls, or you can use the committees as we've done in the past to invite speakers just like we'll do with Steve Devine to work with the Sustainability Commission to move forward with some of the programs that are already being implemented successfully in the county. |
| 03:24:18.77 | Mayor Kelly | Put it on here. |
| 03:24:19.01 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Okay. |
| 03:24:22.28 | Mayor Kelly | But on the list. |
| 03:24:22.40 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Well, we haven't agreed how we would approach it. I think going through the sustainability committee then is probably, not the sustainability, the housing element. |
| 03:24:25.67 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:24:28.59 | Adam Krivash | are not the sustainability. |
| 03:24:29.51 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. the housing element. The Housing Element Committee right now has its hands full trying to finish the |
| 03:24:36.41 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:24:36.46 | Keith Stone King | Thank you. |
| 03:24:36.63 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:24:36.66 | Keith Stone King | Thank you. |
| 03:24:36.76 | Unknown (Councilmember) | you |
| 03:24:36.81 | Keith Stone King | you |
| 03:24:36.97 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. That's fine, so put it on this list. |
| 03:24:38.09 | Mayor Kelly | That's fine. Put it on this list. Okay. Put it on the project list and see where it falls. |
| 03:24:43.51 | Unknown (Councilmember) | but if we're going to use the same consultant, then we're going to be able to do that. Mr. Mayor, I'm very happy. |
| 03:24:46.35 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Mr. Mayor, I'm very happy that it's going on the list. |
| 03:24:51.68 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Okay, good. |
| 03:24:56.98 | Casey | Okay. |
| 03:24:57.45 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Okay, Mr. Mayor, I have a comment? Yes. Thank you. |
| 03:24:59.68 | Casey | Yes. |
| 03:25:03.36 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Number 36, mooring fields, working with RBRA, evaluate the existing mooring field and explore opportunities to improve existing regulations. I don't understand that. Is that, I mean, there was also a proposal a couple years back to have like 125 mooring fields, basically a big parking lot out there, and I wouldn't support that. |
| 03:25:17.68 | Mike Monseff | THE END OF |
| 03:25:31.91 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | So this point? So this one, you should talk to your county supervisor because she's driving the boat on this. So if you, so to speak, if you... I didn't even try that. And Herb might know a little bit more about it than I do in terms of what's happening in the last couple meetings. But Tiburon and Kate Sears and Belvedere are driving this, not Sausalito. So you might... |
| 03:25:44.77 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 03:25:44.82 | Charlie Francis | Thank you. |
| 03:25:44.84 | Mike Monseff | Yeah. |
| 03:25:45.04 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:25:45.06 | Charlie Francis | I didn't even know. |
| 03:25:46.08 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:25:46.19 | Charlie Francis | Thank you. |
| 03:25:46.22 | Casey | And her |
| 03:25:59.55 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Well then where is it on our list? |
| 03:26:00.93 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | because it's going to be thrust onto us. And we're going to have to say yes or no, and then fight back. And it's going to take staff time. It really is coming at it to solve the problems of Belvedere and Tiburon versus the earlier solution, which was much more dealing with the problems that faced the entire bay. No. |
| 03:26:16.73 | Adam Politzer | Not to say that it's not that, but it's more than that. And it affects Sausliu in a variety of ways because obviously the folks that are living out there come onshore here and they're part of our community. But it's really an extension of what Jennifer has been working on and she has been attending the meetings as well, working with the county staff and Bill Price on ways to improve the living conditions out there by putting some some permanent mooring field for folks to be tied up with regulations to support the folks that choose to live out there lawfully. So if you do have specific questions, I know that Jennifer can talk about some of it. I don't believe we're talking about 125 Mooran Field site. |
| 03:27:08.32 | Mike Monseff | you |
| 03:27:10.19 | Adam Politzer | and Vice Mayor Leone is correct that Belvedere and Gibran have had issues with the boats during storms crashing in and them not happy about that happening all the time. and other comments that have come from that on the type of criminal activity that they feel that they are victims of because the folks come over to their side of the bay and and come on to shore there or onto their Boat launches. |
| 03:27:38.35 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Okay. I would just comment this is a very controversial issue. |
| 03:27:39.52 | Adam Politzer | I would just... Thank you. |
| 03:27:41.92 | Vice Mayor Leon | Yeah, well, let me, at the last meeting, I think there was some direction about that. And the idea is that there are some boats out there that are of almost just storage boats, not inhabited by anybody. and that was considered the low hanging fruit, and those are the ones that should be addressed first. I mean, they're just sitting out there as a storage, and I really wouldn't want to go into what they're storing. |
| 03:28:06.37 | Mike Monseff | as well. |
| 03:28:12.19 | Vice Mayor Leon | Nonetheless, it's not. They're not inhabited, and that should be the first course. So I recommend you leave it on the list. |
| 03:28:22.33 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 03:28:22.40 | Unknown (Councilmember) | It's going to take it. |
| 03:28:22.97 | Adam Politzer | Staff will spend more than 40 hours at least participating in the discussion. |
| 03:28:23.23 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:28:23.53 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Step one more thing. |
| 03:28:24.52 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:28:24.54 | Unknown (Councilmember) | 40 hours. |
| 03:28:28.05 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:28:28.14 | Adam Politzer | Don't forget to listen. |
| 03:28:29.03 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | MR PRICE, your stuff is really great, but let's look at the floor. |
| 03:28:31.16 | Vice Mayor Leon | Bye. Ladies first. |
| 03:28:37.48 | Unknown | I would just like to comment. I think it's important to keep in mind that this is not a singular issue of mooring fields. This is a quality of life issue for people here and people on the water. And so there is a voice |
| 03:28:37.65 | Vice Mayor Leon | just like, |
| 03:28:55.52 | Unknown | that is going to come to the table that represents the people who live on the water who are in favor of having their living environment regulated, whether that is a mooring field or somebody who is designated as a police officer of issues on the water, but they are not satisfied that their voice is heard. and I don't think they've had a voice. So it's about, really is about quality of life. And everybody is aware of the eelgrass and that that needs to be considered in whatever direction we move forward. But, It's not just Belvedere, it's not Tiburon. Sausalito is actually the access point for most people who we are talking about, who are living on the water, are using the boats for storage. So we have a big stake in this. A lot of the debris does wash up in Belvedere. but it also affects us and comes into our waters. When the boats get loose, they crash into Other boats. not just the ones out there, but the ones in the marinas and cause significant damage. So it touches pretty much every member that is connected to the bay. And I really encourage you to think of this issue as quality of life issues for us and for them and for water users, just about everybody who has a connection to the Bay. It really is about quality of life. And everybody deserves to have their needs met and have law and order in their lives. And right now, a lot of them don't have that out there. So. |
| 03:30:59.30 | Unknown (Councilmember) | So I'm also concerned about quality of the environment. And I just have an issue with number 36. |
| 03:31:07.45 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | I think this is a fundamental misunderstanding you have with what the plan is, but be that as it may, it's going to take up staff time over the next year, one way or the other. It's not going to be a choice not to be involved. It's going to have a decision hoisted upon you. |
| 03:31:25.41 | Vice Mayor Leon | What other things do we want to delete? Let's get that out of the way and then we'll go to the ad. All right, Ed. Let's take a look. |
| 03:31:26.03 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:31:32.04 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Are you done with your number 38 municipal code update? No? |
| 03:31:32.97 | Mayor Kelly | with your number. |
| 03:31:36.95 | Mayor Kelly | So. Look, we're kicking around now, so let's take another five minutes and come up with items. If you have to add something, you can add it at home and bring it with you next week. I can tell you the ones I want to add. But let's try to. |
| 03:31:48.54 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:31:48.56 | Vice Mayor Leon | Two weeks. I'll take the ones I want to ask. No more than 31. |
| 03:31:52.61 | Mayor Kelly | What do you got? All in all done. Go. |
| 03:31:54.94 | Casey | All in all done. |
| 03:31:56.74 | Vice Mayor Leon | Keep it down to 31 or less. |
| 03:31:59.70 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Mike. |
| 03:32:00.24 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. |
| 03:32:00.25 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | . |
| 03:32:00.31 | Vice Mayor Leon | you |
| 03:32:01.69 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah, well, so my purpose with this every year is to just make a list so that we have a list, whether it gets above the 25. At least I see the list from the prior year and we get something that drives our thinking every year. Okay, so some of them you're not going to go for and some of you, you're mad at it. Okay. smoking ordinance it's not on here we're doing the work on it it's definitely a special project what do you want to do with that |
| 03:32:26.97 | Adam Politzer | We think that the majority of the work is being done by the county and supported with our city staff and we're bringing that forward here hopefully before the August recess. |
| 03:32:31.83 | Casey | Okay. |
| 03:32:39.00 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:32:39.71 | Adam Politzer | So... |
| 03:32:39.98 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. So, list, no list? Okay, off the list. |
| 03:32:43.96 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | that. Um, |
| 03:32:48.15 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Policy of the use of underwater streets. Remember, I've had this every year. And again, trying to explain it to people who don't quite get it is the idea is if you decided, as the owner of this property, to never use it for anything, then no one could ever use it for anything. So then you wouldn't have a debate about letting somebody use it, because you already said you're not going to use it. So to me, that will take some staff time and a little bit of legal work to see if we have the ability to do that with the grant from the state, but it would solve a lot of problems about people proposing to use the underwater streets to construct things. |
| 03:33:26.92 | Adam Politzer | once you grab it on. Bye-bye. |
| 03:33:29.03 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:33:29.59 | Adam Politzer | Okay. |
| 03:33:30.16 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Okay. |
| 03:33:30.22 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 03:33:30.23 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:33:31.83 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 03:33:31.87 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:33:31.97 | Adam Politzer | Yeah. |
| 03:33:33.49 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Leaf blower. It's just the sustainability guys. I had an email from them. You had the guy come tonight for, said, your construction waste ordinance behind the times. So, Now, Jeremy, my question for you with the green building code you had in the adoptive building code update, is that the first stuff as well as the most kind of recent county kind of green ordinance, or is that a different, it's number two? Or is that just the state building code and that would, and leave it at that? |
| 03:34:12.20 | Unknown | In speaking about the status of the burst ordinance, it seems to have lost favor with most of the other, with many of the other jurisdictions in the county. And so I think the staff recommendation is going to be to go with CalGreen, the standard regulations adopted by as part of the uniform building codes. So that's already in the new building codes? |
| 03:34:33.67 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | So that's already ran the new building |
| 03:34:35.99 | Mayor Kelly | I'm sorry. |
| 03:34:36.01 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | So, |
| 03:34:37.14 | Mayor Kelly | So that's covered in number two. |
| 03:34:38.42 | Unknown | Thank you. Correct. |
| 03:34:39.32 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | But that's part of the state's building code, not to adopt something different than the |
| 03:34:44.57 | Unknown | Correct. |
| 03:34:44.63 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | for a long time. Correct. Versus, say, what the county or Mill Valley or other people have done. |
| 03:34:49.12 | Unknown | So we'd be adopting the state model codes with some local modifications. Okay. We would not be going with the burst regulations. Okay. |
| 03:34:56.87 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | So that's the number two. |
| 03:35:01.05 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | The Marinship Historic designation you have that is number 33 as far as the individual sites, is that correct? Okay. City right-of-way and land acquisition policy. I keep getting emails from people. If I need to buy this sliver of land, how do I want to do it? Is that something we never adopted a policy? We've approached it many times over the years. Just that's something to just put on, you know, we never adopted a policy there. Yeah, the policy regarding purchase and or use of city right of way. I'm just putting it on the list. Yeah, no. Whether you want to put it, well, it could go with a variety. It could be purchases. It could be easements. It could be code agreement. Yeah. |
| 03:35:54.56 | Vice Mayor Leon | Yeah, and I really like that idea that we might be able to put that in, that a person can acquire that, purchase that right away. to only allow them to have off-street parking for that use of just for, like a garage, for something off-street parking. |
| 03:36:13.87 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah, it has a variety of purposes that people have come up with over the years. But I'm not necessarily in favor of it. I'm just saying you should talk about it as a policy and then decide it whether you want to... Okay. Okay. Adam, given that Mike's not here, do you want to pull Rob and Sweeney as a separate project or leave that as part of this kind of general park improvement plan? Because that's going to suck up a lot of time if it ever gets anywhere. |
| 03:36:15.89 | Vice Mayor Leon | Yeah. |
| 03:36:20.55 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 03:36:20.67 | Vice Mayor Leon | I'm not sure. |
| 03:36:20.70 | Mike Monseff | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:36:22.07 | Casey | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:36:38.64 | Adam Politzer | I think it's part of the general. I think we all are sharing a philosophy that we know what the dominoes are. But again, it's going to be funded primarily by the community. So if I think Robin Sweeney we've indicated is our first priority. We'll continue to meet with the other neighborhood groups and user groups and the Friends of Dunphy Park to keep moving each one of these along. But I don't think we can do them all at the same time. Okay. Just to clarify. |
| 03:37:09.27 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Okay. Thank you. Thanks. Post office. It's been using some staff time already. Does people come in with ideas to how they're going to use the old post office, the soon to be somewhat revised post office? Does that need to be given its location and yada, yada, yada? Let that bubble up. That's overnight. |
| 03:37:26.11 | Casey | Let that bubble up. Thank you. I'm not. |
| 03:37:30.65 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah. |
| 03:37:30.77 | Casey | Thank you. Thanks. |
| 03:37:33.01 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | All right. Spinnaker building condition. I think I asked at one point who's responsible for maintaining the actual building of the Spinnaker. If you look at just any picture of the Spinnaker, it doesn't look so good in terms of the roofs condition. So who's actually responsible for that? Is it the Spinnaker? Is it us? Spinnaker. It's the Spinnaker, I think. Yeah, it is. Well, I don't know. I just don't know what the lease says because it's a weird lease, if I remember. |
| 03:37:51.19 | Mayor Kelly | It's a spinnaker, I think. Yeah, it is. Sorry about that. |
| 03:37:58.31 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. Absolutely. |
| 03:38:00.82 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah, but I don't know. They turn over the building at the end of the building. |
| 03:38:04.52 | Mayor Kelly | I don't know. |
| 03:38:04.55 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | That's all. I don't know. I'm just saying I get these emails. So I'm trying. I go through my emails and I, you know, just put them. |
| 03:38:14.12 | Adam Politzer | Vice Mayor Leon, just on clarification, If you wanted to group that into all of our lease property to review the conditions in those leases. We can do that, but in that case, I think that that would be less than a 40-hour review. And if we have a problem, we can bring it back to council. |
| 03:38:28.01 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | and if we have a problem, we'll bring it back to council. I'm just trying to satisfy the public here. emergency Wi-Fi at where the city has Wi-Fi installations. You know, is there something, a way to make it exist during a disaster? You know, at the park, at where we have current in-city buildings that don't have generators at the moment. I'm just laying it out there. North Street steps. Obviously crumbling, falling down the hill. |
| 03:38:56.85 | Casey | Yeah. |
| 03:38:56.97 | Vice Mayor Leon | Keep going. |
| 03:38:57.84 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Enjoy. |
| 03:38:58.62 | Casey | of course. |
| 03:39:04.04 | Vice Mayor Leon | and lots of steps. |
| 03:39:05.81 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah. |
| 03:39:06.57 | Vice Mayor Leon | MR PRICE- Yeah, but this is true. |
| 03:39:07.66 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | This is true. Do you want to break this kind of... Right now there's some... I forget what number it is, the bike study from Alexander to the ferry. That's here. Yeah. Do you want to break it into two pieces in between... You've got the bridgeway piece, which is sort of the more easily solved one, and sort of the... If we had a project being described tonight. |
| 03:39:18.19 | Mayor Kelly | That's here. So, |
| 03:39:28.86 | Vice Mayor Leon | project being described tonight? I recommend you move them as one. Then nothing will ever happen. |
| 03:39:30.40 | Mayor Kelly | I had |
| 03:39:31.96 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | All right, then nothing will happen. |
| 03:39:35.39 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. |
| 03:39:35.49 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. Okay. |
| 03:39:37.19 | Mayor Kelly | Yeah. Okay. All right. |
| 03:39:38.14 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | All right. Caltrans runoff, do you want to deal with that as a separate issue, or do we want to tackle Caltrans and say, hey, we're... |
| 03:39:38.51 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. |
| 03:39:50.44 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | That one. |
| 03:39:50.73 | Mayor Kelly | Short. Make it short. Make them on. Yes, no. |
| 03:39:52.58 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:39:52.65 | Jonathon Goldman | Yeah. |
| 03:39:52.87 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah. |
| 03:39:53.08 | Jonathon Goldman | Make a moment. Yes, no. I have no objection to having it, you know, be a specific item on this list. |
| 03:39:55.01 | Mayor Kelly | THE FAMILY. |
| 03:39:55.18 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:40:00.92 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 03:40:00.94 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Okay, including with that, I've had a number of requests over the years to talk to Caltrans about replacing the What do you call those things? Guardrails with cement on the north end of town with cement. Guardrails instead is a partial, same height level sound barrier kind of concept. It'll bounce some. It's just something to consider if you ever talk to Caltrans. There you go. Thank you. |
| 03:40:28.17 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:40:28.26 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:40:28.83 | Casey | Next. |
| 03:40:29.95 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah. |
| 03:40:29.95 | Mary Wagner | Mr. Mayor and Mr. Vice Mayor, I might suggest that that Caltrans runoff issue is part of a litigation discussion, claim discussion that we've had, and that this might not be the appropriate place for it right now. |
| 03:40:30.03 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:40:30.05 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Um, |
| 03:40:30.67 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:40:32.11 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Good. |
| 03:40:32.34 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:40:45.34 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Okay. It's just a general problem throughout the town because it's all flowing down through us. |
| 03:40:46.50 | Casey | Yes. |
| 03:40:49.30 | Mayor Kelly | That's true. Yeah. Thanks. Say more? |
| 03:40:55.01 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | No, the rest of them were already out of the list. Mr. Mayor. |
| 03:40:55.53 | Mayor Kelly | and we're off the other way. |
| 03:40:56.86 | Unknown (Councilmember) | There's a lot of generic. Yeah, I have a comment about the, I guess the South Bridgeway bike plan. I recall that that plan was something that was presented to us. It was kind of presented as very sketchy and something that was something we were voting on just to kind of contend for grant money. That was my recollection. |
| 03:40:57.55 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:41:18.02 | Mayor Kelly | a gazillion years away. |
| 03:41:20.20 | Unknown (Councilmember) | And, yeah, and because there was a lot of feedback of resident concern, and I just want to make sure that, you know, we're not looking at any specific plan, but rather at options. |
| 03:41:36.38 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:41:36.40 | Adam Politzer | Duly noted. |
| 03:41:37.89 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:41:37.94 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. Well, I think that we are looking, you know, there were a range of, and I know that our public works director can I'll give you more detail, but I'm trying to preempt them here. Uh... There's a range from basically re-striping money. that cost very little to $30 million, which was the entire project. You know, so I think Our idea was to come back and look at how we can address some of the traffic and bicycle shared needs there by moving the lines one way or the other. But I'll leave our public works director to correct me if I'm misstating. The simplicity of what we can or cannot do. |
| 03:42:22.50 | Jonathon Goldman | I'll try to do better than that. |
| 03:42:31.24 | Casey | Hehehehe. |
| 03:42:31.82 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | This is... |
| 03:42:31.87 | Casey | What? |
| 03:42:31.90 | Jonathon Goldman | what is that |
| 03:42:32.04 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | This is... |
| 03:42:32.58 | Casey | Bye. |
| 03:42:32.61 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | What? I just knocked you down over there. |
| 03:42:33.25 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:42:34.33 | Jonathon Goldman | I didn't intend to do that. I'm trying to figure out really what the question and the issue that Council Member Fyfefer was raising. |
| 03:42:34.67 | Casey | I don't know. |
| 03:42:34.97 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Yeah. |
| 03:42:36.69 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:42:36.73 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:42:41.22 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Okay, here. Was racing. Would you like me to... |
| 03:42:44.39 | Jonathon Goldman | Well, let me offer a little bit more detail and a preface. What council authorized staff to pursue was funding from the Federal Non-Motorized Transportation Pilot Project program for a pretty specific project. |
| 03:42:44.46 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Let me offer. |
| 03:43:09.25 | Jonathon Goldman | And it was specific enough to have identified the fact that it could be accommodated within the existing public right-of-way. In other words, that property didn't need to be acquired from private property owners in order to construct the improvements. and at a sufficient level of detail to allow costs to be estimated at accurately enough to compete for funding. What happened following that is that the funding stream, the federal funding stream, essentially stopped. Thank you. |
| 03:43:51.57 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:43:51.69 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. And the projects that the county already had in their list received the remainder of the funds that were available, And the combined South City Limits to Ferry Landing project that we had proposed was not funded. What we did following that was to submit that significant project in its whole to the Metropolitan Transportation Commission, which is responsible for establishing regional transportation priorities. and that project is on their list of potential regional transportation fund recipients at some date uncertain in the future. So certainly at staff's intent, as long as council still believes that |
| 03:44:30.50 | Casey | Yeah. |
| 03:44:47.90 | Jonathon Goldman | that there are bicycle and pedestrian and even vehicular safety issues in that part of town. It's staff's intent to keep that project as a priority. In the meantime, we've got the resources as part of our ongoing budget to not just refresh the pavement markings and things like that, but bring them up to compliance with current standards for, for example, pavement markings that are called sharrows that are intended to emphasize the message to both motor vehicles and bicycles that in an area where there's not a bike lane, they're expected to share the full width of the traveled lane. |
| 03:45:36.60 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. So, what my recollection was is, and I'll go back and listen to the presentation and the discussions, but I recall being very concerned that there was no time really for a lot of extensive public outreach And. community participation and feedback. in that. In fact, I didn't know that the plan was on the agenda until I got my packet on that Friday. |
| 03:46:05.34 | Mayor Kelly | We're discussing |
| 03:46:05.47 | Unknown (Councilmember) | with the weekend. |
| 03:46:06.47 | Mayor Kelly | I have a plan now. No, I'm not. |
| 03:46:07.36 | Unknown (Councilmember) | No, I'm not. I'm seeking clarification, Mr. Mayor. |
| 03:46:09.47 | Mayor Kelly | Mr. Mayor. Number 46 is South City limits to ferry landing, pedestrian, and bike improvements. Mr. Mayor. |
| 03:46:14.60 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Mr. Mayor, if I may finish. So my recollection was that, because we are talking about a specific item on this priority list, is that I was voting on something to move it forward under the explanation from city staff that we had a chance to grab federal funding and that plans could change as in fact the ferry landing to bridgeway plans changed dramatically. And so that was my recollection. |
| 03:46:50.71 | Mayor Kelly | So what's your point? |
| 03:46:53.43 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Well, I guess before I voted on this list, to understand where to put this in terms of the priority, I wanted to understand the flexibility of the plan that I would be prioritizing. There isn't any plan. |
| 03:47:06.76 | Mayor Kelly | would be prioritizing. There isn't any plan. There is an earmark on the Transportation Authority Marin's budget. There's an earmark for Sausalito to get funds. someday in the future. Thank you. non-funded, non-approved, No specific plan except the one that was bannered about, which was a conceptual drawing in the report. |
| 03:47:28.95 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Well, Thank you, Mr. Mayor, because you used the term conceptual drawing. Mr. Goldman used the term specific, a very specific plan with details, and that makes me a little nervous. |
| 03:47:40.55 | Mayor Kelly | That's number 46 So we'll move on To something else |
| 03:47:40.88 | Casey | The President. |
| 03:47:42.33 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:47:46.62 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. Mr. Mayor, I just have a comment on that. I think we need to leave it on here because, and I believe we may need to break it down, because the bridgeway Richardson to the ferry part is very, very expensive. |
| 03:47:47.16 | Mayor Kelly | Mr. Mayor. |
| 03:47:53.20 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:48:06.36 | Unknown (Councilmember) | in the 20 million or 30 million, I'm not sure. I can't remember the exact figures. Whereas the estimate for the part from the city limits to Bridgeway is, if I'm recalling this correctly, is more like seven or eight million. And I wonder if we wouldn't get, and that's the worst part in my mind is from the south end. to Bridgeway. I'm wondering if we might not get better consideration of this project if we did break it in two. and have a better chance. That's another issue. Well, I just wanted to consider when we look at this, |
| 03:48:43.27 | Mayor Kelly | have a better chance. That's another issue. Well, I just wanted to consider Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. |
| 03:48:48.47 | Mike Monseff | That's it. |
| 03:48:50.46 | Mayor Kelly | But I think we should leave it all as number 46 now and then break it down as we discover what we want to do with it if it makes the list. |
| 03:48:57.95 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yeah, just to have an understanding of what it really is. |
| 03:48:59.76 | Mayor Kelly | Yeah. Right. Yeah, I'm going to have trouble with that. For now, can we just leave it as combined with number 46? So everything's one. And then staff will come back to us at some appropriate time with a report saying, analyzing should we break it down. |
| 03:49:17.19 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Mr. Mayor, I think Council Member Ford has a good idea, which is to break those into two separate topics, because that will influence my ranking. |
| 03:49:25.04 | Mayor Kelly | We don't have enough information to break it into separatography. All we have is a vague recollection. So let's go back with specific reports. |
| 03:49:30.74 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Well, apparently we have a specific plan. |
| 03:49:33.62 | Vice Mayor Leon | I don't know about a specific plan, but I don't think you should break him up. there's some idea out there that it could be one continuous improvement from 2nd Street all the way to Princess Street. |
| 03:49:52.04 | Mayor Kelly | So straight. And this gives you the possibility that this ends up above the line. If you break it into two pieces, one piece may end up at the bottom of the line. No, it should be in one. |
| 03:50:02.43 | Vice Mayor Leon | No, it should be in one because it's going to be solved that way. |
| 03:50:03.80 | Unknown (Councilmember) | It's going to be solved that way. I'm going with that, but I'd like to add one more thing in conjunction with that, then, that we establish a pedestrian and bicycle committee. I think this is something that could be helped along by that, as well as other stairways and pathways in town. No. So we had discussed this earlier. Absolutely. And I believe we agreed to put it on the priority list and rank it rather than consider |
| 03:50:21.16 | Casey | No. |
| 03:50:25.38 | Mike Monseff | And I, |
| 03:50:25.80 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:50:25.97 | Mike Monseff | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:50:29.74 | Casey | rather than. |
| 03:50:32.28 | Vice Mayor Leon | I think you'd leave that to experts. |
| 03:50:35.03 | Casey | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:50:38.95 | Unknown (Councilmember) | And I would mention the design review board, but I know I don't have the support for it. OK. I'm going to call for. |
| 03:50:44.40 | Mayor Kelly | I'm gonna call you |
| 03:50:44.87 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 03:50:45.01 | Mayor Kelly | All in, all done is a quarter to a |
| 03:50:46.58 | Adam Politzer | you |
| 03:50:46.78 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:50:46.96 | Adam Politzer | you |
| 03:50:47.03 | Mayor Kelly | Okay. |
| 03:50:47.27 | Adam Politzer | Can I just make a recommendation? I'm looking at the leaf blower ordinance. |
| 03:50:47.35 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Can I just... |
| 03:50:47.88 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:50:47.89 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:50:47.93 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:50:51.74 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 03:50:51.77 | Casey | Yeah. |
| 03:50:52.09 | Adam Politzer | And again, I would recommend being consistent with the committee, with the sustainability work on that. You can leave it on the list, but that's something that they would do the of. food waste program, food scraps program, and then they would bring it forward. So I don't think you want to spend staff time developing a leaf blower ordinance. |
| 03:51:09.63 | Mayor Kelly | Okay. |
| 03:51:14.59 | Mayor Kelly | So now we're, Debbie, have you got sort of the master list from all the things that have been said here? Okay. So let's, I'm sorry, I've been looking at my own papers. So let's send this out as an email. All right. Sixty-one items. Sixty-one items. And what's the goal for next committee? Again. Say it again. |
| 03:51:37.57 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Um... |
| 03:51:38.11 | Mayor Kelly | 50. |
| 03:51:38.15 | Unknown (Councilmember) | 50? Mr. Mayor. I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor. Establish an arts commission. |
| 03:51:39.31 | Mayor Kelly | Mr. Nair. |
| 03:51:43.43 | Mayor Kelly | Now the Arch Commission is in your purview already, so we don't need to put that on the |
| 03:51:46.79 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Oh, good. Yay. |
| 03:51:47.93 | Mayor Kelly | you Bye. |
| 03:51:48.47 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:51:48.49 | Mayor Kelly | Yeah. |
| 03:51:48.56 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Have you forgotten your purview to come back to the council? |
| 03:51:48.58 | Mayor Kelly | Have you forgotten? |
| 03:51:50.33 | Casey | THE END OF THE END OF THE Thank you. |
| 03:51:50.58 | Mayor Kelly | THE COUNTRY. |
| 03:51:50.97 | Casey | . |
| 03:51:51.04 | Unknown (Councilmember) | And I've got the documents, so I'll raise it for the future. |
| 03:51:53.43 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | in the future. And propose a solution. It's not to just go rummage. It's to come back to the council and decide. |
| 03:51:54.63 | Adam Politzer | Oh, is this the way? |
| 03:51:59.17 | Adam Politzer | So a reminder, you'll have, so are there 60 or 60? There are 60 items on the list here. And so your job as council is to, we will send you out a ranking form like we've done in the past. |
| 03:52:01.91 | Casey | 60 or 60. |
| 03:52:14.36 | Casey | All right. |
| 03:52:14.63 | Adam Politzer | You'll then go through it and by May 10th have that complete. and deliver it back to your city clerk here. and then that will be included, your individual rankings will be included in the council packet. and then we will give you your consensus at the meeting |
| 03:52:26.07 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:52:26.10 | Ray Budde | Thank you. |
| 03:52:30.91 | Adam Politzer | And then at that point in time, take more public comment, Jockey items up and down as the council sees fit. and then draw the line. |
| 03:52:38.12 | Mayor Kelly | So you rank them one to 61. |
| 03:52:40.42 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, so your most, the highest priority would be rated 60. So that, your number one priority would be 60 and your lowest priority would be one. |
| 03:52:53.59 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Okay. Okay. Could I, Mr. Mayor, one more suggestion. I think that the North Street stairs could be included in the overall stairs. |
| 03:53:06.52 | Mayor Kelly | part of that. |
| 03:53:07.62 | Unknown (Councilmember) | which I'm looking for here right now because I know we had one the stairs mentioned on here Maybe our public works department can help me out. |
| 03:53:19.53 | Mayor Kelly | stairs here somewhere? Thank you. |
| 03:53:23.36 | Unknown (Councilmember) | They're here somewhere. |
| 03:53:25.05 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:53:25.15 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:53:25.17 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:53:25.20 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | I might bring this one up separately. There's kind of a hillside stabilization issue at the same time, unfortunately. Thank you. But yes, take it wherever you want. |
| 03:53:34.84 | Unknown (Councilmember) | You know, I don't see it. You need that. |
| 03:53:37.52 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | There was, he's got, where was that? I thought I saw stairs. |
| 03:53:42.28 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:53:42.30 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:53:42.31 | Unknown (Councilmember) | I'm sorry. |
| 03:53:42.41 | Mayor Kelly | IT'S UNDER PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS PLAN INCLUDING CIRCULATION SIZE, PEDESTRIAL AND WALKWAYS. |
| 03:53:43.22 | Unknown (Councilmember) | I'm sorry. |
| 03:53:50.36 | Mayor Kelly | I think we need to pull it out. Yeah, just put stairs in there. We need another topic. |
| 03:53:50.38 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:53:50.40 | Unknown (Councilmember) | I think we need to pull it out. We need another topic. |
| 03:53:59.19 | Mayor Kelly | Okay, all right, so it goes under 39. |
| 03:54:02.26 | Adam Politzer | All right. It should not be in 39. 39 is specific to the parking and pathway related to it. |
| 03:54:10.43 | Casey | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:54:11.57 | Mayor Kelly | Oh. |
| 03:54:11.81 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Oh, |
| 03:54:12.03 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Bye. |
| 03:54:12.10 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Okay, so we need |
| 03:54:12.79 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:54:12.81 | Mayor Kelly | that we need. So where does it go? |
| 03:54:13.63 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:54:13.80 | Adam Politzer | of the |
| 03:54:13.97 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yeah, we need it. staring. |
| 03:54:16.10 | Mayor Kelly | Just make stairs, stairways in general. |
| 03:54:17.23 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:54:17.26 | Debbie | Thank you. |
| 03:54:17.29 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:54:17.40 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Fairways. |
| 03:54:17.87 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:54:17.95 | Unknown (Councilmember) | in general. Stairways, yeah. |
| 03:54:18.73 | Debbie | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 03:54:20.18 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:54:20.80 | Debbie | Good catch. |
| 03:54:21.68 | Mayor Kelly | Okay, are we through? I hope so. Okay, great. Let's move on. |
| 03:54:24.74 | Debbie | So, |
| 03:54:27.03 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. Thank you. We had public comments. Anybody in the public want to say anything? Did you want to say something? |
| 03:54:27.23 | Debbie | Thank you. |
| 03:54:27.25 | Casey | Sure. |
| 03:54:27.72 | Debbie | What is it? |
| 03:54:27.79 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:54:27.81 | Debbie | Bye. |
| 03:54:27.86 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:54:27.96 | Debbie | Thank you. |
| 03:54:28.09 | Casey | PIN. |
| 03:54:28.30 | Debbie | I had the... |
| 03:54:28.62 | Mike Monseff | Thank you. |
| 03:54:30.29 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:54:30.31 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:54:30.34 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you, Ev. Thank you. |
| 03:54:31.42 | Casey | you |
| 03:54:31.57 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Mm-hmm. Thank you. |
| 03:54:34.88 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:54:34.90 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. Yes, you can pick our thing. |
| 03:54:38.12 | Mayor Kelly | Okay. |
| 03:54:38.20 | Casey | Okay. |
| 03:54:38.69 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:54:38.98 | Mayor Kelly | It goes away. Yay. Yay. That's right. That's right. Now what do we do? |
| 03:54:40.45 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:54:40.46 | Casey | Great. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:54:43.25 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yeah. |
| 03:54:43.30 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:54:46.27 | Mayor Kelly | Okay, all right, let's move on. Future agenda. I'm sorry. |
| 03:54:46.32 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:54:46.47 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Bye. |
| 03:54:46.50 | Casey | Okay. |
| 03:54:46.77 | Unknown (Councilmember) | All right. I need a three minute break. I moved for a three minute break. |
| 03:54:52.63 | Mayor Kelly | We're just that close. Sorry, I'll be right back then. Okay, great. City Manager information for Council. |
| 03:54:54.40 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Sorry, I'll be right back then. |
| 03:54:59.57 | Adam Politzer | I will pass until the 15th. Just a reminder that the MCCMC will be in Ross this month. It's really important that that we participate. I know that everyone's calendars are very, very busy, but it's important that we have representation there. There are vacancies on various MCC committees. So again, take a look at the agendas, the minutes, Thank you. And if you are inclined to participate on a committee, it's an opportunity to work with your fellow Council members. It will be in Ross. Great. And the Major Crimes Task Force will be the major agenda item for that evening. |
| 03:55:34.77 | Mayor Kelly | And what date is it exactly? |
| 03:55:38.06 | Adam Politzer | The 20-something, whatever the Wednesday, the fourth Wednesday of the month. Fourth. 24th. |
| 03:55:46.01 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. Okay, future agenda items. |
| 03:55:49.85 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yes, I would, Mr. Mayor, I would like a report on the plans for the mooring field. |
| 03:55:56.77 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:55:57.26 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Presentation for plans for the mooring that the RBRA is looking at. |
| 03:55:57.28 | Adam Politzer | I'm not sure. |
| 03:55:57.50 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:55:57.51 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:56:04.08 | Adam Politzer | Maybe we can just ask the RVRA staff to come and give us a report. |
| 03:56:08.40 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | I would just ask the county, that's who it's doing. It's just all coming out of the 8-0's office. |
| 03:56:14.81 | Adam Politzer | Okay, Adam, you can ask someone to come and speak. Why don't you check it out? Whoever. Whoever's the assessment. |
| 03:56:14.84 | Unknown (likely Councilmember) | Okay, Adam, you can check it. |
| 03:56:17.85 | Unknown (Councilmember) | that, |
| 03:56:18.20 | Mayor Kelly | Why don't you check into that and let the agenda see if you're ready to know. |
| 03:56:20.97 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. THE END OF |
| 03:56:21.26 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. |
| 03:56:21.33 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Thank you. |
| 03:56:22.56 | Mayor Kelly | All right. Council member committee reports. |
| 03:56:26.76 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Oh, yes, I have one at long last. Marin Telecommunications Agency has worked out a deal, a compromise with Comcast. And so the communications organization will be funded, and they're getting the money, more of the money up front. So that was wonderful. So we're not looking at a lawsuit. |
| 03:56:28.34 | Mayor Kelly | Okay. |
| 03:56:50.70 | Mayor Kelly | It was wonderful. Right, excellent. Excellent. Yeah, right. Good news. All right, any other reports of significance? |
| 03:56:56.02 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yeah, right. |
| 03:57:01.96 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Regarding the Arts Commission, I talked to two former members, and we kind of culled our notes and our recollections, and we've come up with some recommendations. Basically, it's pretty straightforward. And so I can either share that now or we can agendize it. Agendize it. |
| 03:57:26.61 | Mayor Kelly | Agendize it. Agendize it. Great. Put it in writing. |
| 03:57:30.23 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Hey. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, it's all in writing. It's basically. |
| 03:57:34.73 | Mayor Kelly | Okay. |
| 03:57:35.41 | Unknown (Councilmember) | Yeah. |
| 03:57:36.94 | Mayor Kelly | All right. Any other items? Seeing none. I move we adjourn. |
| 03:57:41.36 | Unknown (Councilmember) | I've moved. |
| 03:57:42.04 | Casey | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:57:42.56 | Unknown (Councilmember) | I move we adjourn. You get it. All right. It was the shortest one on record. It's a. You must be tired. I know. |
| 03:57:45.28 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:57:45.40 | Mayor Kelly | All right, thanks. |
| 03:57:47.91 | Casey | Bye. Bye. |
| 03:57:49.92 | Mayor Kelly | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 03:57:50.68 | Casey | Bye. |
| 03:57:50.69 | Mayor Kelly | Yeah. |
| 03:57:50.92 | Casey | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:57:50.97 | Mayor Kelly | I'm not sure. Thank you. You must be tired. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:58:02.24 | Vice Mayor Leon | Yes. That sounds good. You look at it. 73. |
| 03:58:08.36 | Casey | Whoa. |
| 03:58:09.07 | Vice Mayor Leon | The second street is much wider on this side than it is on this side. Right. So my, what I mentioned, Commanders, what you can do is shift it and make it even for both. And that will give you approximately three feet. |
| 03:58:09.12 | Casey | . Thank you. |
| 03:58:28.09 | Vice Mayor Leon | on the right side coming into soft speed |
| 03:58:48.29 | Vice Mayor Leon | Oh, yeah. |
| 03:58:49.40 | Casey | Thank you. |
| 03:58:49.52 | Vice Mayor Leon | Thank you. I think that's my single name. |
Fred Kral — Against: Presented visual analysis showing quadrupling of students and fivefold increase in cars; emphasized impacts on neighborhood, traffic, and facilities; requested an environmental impact report. ▶ 📄
Chris Gruel — In Favor: Spoke as Lycée Français parent/board member; expressed excitement to join community, noted 25-year history without neighbor issues in dense area, offered to answer questions. ▶ 📄
Ray Budde — In Favor: Argued city's role as landlord provides strong control over tenant behavior through lease, mitigating immediate need for CEQA review; distinguished landlord control from permitting issues. ▶ 📄