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| 00:00:00.03 | Unknown | a number of items on our closed session agenda tonight, 10 in all. And we will now adjourn to public comment. There is nobody from the public here. So we will now adjourn to closed session to consider these 10 items. |
| 00:00:17.89 | Mary Wagner | And just for the record, Mr. Mayor, they're listed as items D1 through 10. Thank you. |
| 00:00:25.36 | Unknown | D1 through 10. |
| 00:01:08.46 | Unknown | 10 items, you give direction on |
| 00:01:15.80 | Unknown | I left out the Pledge of Allegiance. Anyway, we'll do that in a minute. On all of them, several of them are on the consent calendar, number one, number four, number five, and number six, and will be addressed in that venue. Does anyone have any comments or any questions from the public about closed session items? |
| 00:01:31.92 | Jeff Shurash | address. |
| 00:01:42.97 | Unknown | All right, seeing none, we'll go back to the Pledge of Allegiance. Jim Irving, would you give us the pledge? Lead us in the pledge? Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:01:53.92 | Unknown | to the flag of the United States of America. |
| 00:01:55.08 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:01:55.32 | Adam Politzer | and then, |
| 00:01:55.49 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 00:01:55.83 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:01:57.26 | Unknown | and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. |
| 00:02:00.70 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:02:00.72 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:02:00.74 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:02:01.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:02:07.99 | Unknown | in the Thank you. Thank you. All right. This point is approval of the agenda. Do we have a motion? |
| 00:02:24.29 | Unknown | So moved. |
| 00:02:25.85 | Unknown | Second. Second. All in favor? |
| 00:02:27.89 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 00:02:27.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:02:27.97 | Unknown | Bye. Bye. |
| 00:02:28.07 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:02:28.62 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:02:30.00 | Unknown | All right. And special presentations, we have none. Communications. This is the time that members of the public may address the council on matters that are not on the agenda. Do we have anyone who has a matter not on the agenda they would like to address? All right, seeing none, we'll move to the action minutes of the previous meeting. We have two tonight. One is a minute to the regular city council meeting of June 26. Are there any corrections or changes to those minutes? Seeing none, motion to approve. |
| 00:03:07.38 | Unknown | So moved. |
| 00:03:08.73 | Unknown | All in favor? Aye. We need a second. I'll second. All right. And then the other one is July, the minutes of July 10th. Do we have any corrections or additions or changes to those minutes? |
| 00:03:09.59 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 00:03:09.69 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:03:09.79 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 00:03:09.89 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:03:09.94 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:03:10.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:03:10.08 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:03:22.55 | Unknown | All right, a motion? |
| 00:03:24.10 | Carolyn Revell | I move we approve the July 10th minutes. Okay. |
| 00:03:26.65 | Unknown | Okay. Second. All right. All in favor? |
| 00:03:29.26 | Carolyn Revell | Bye. Bye. |
| 00:03:30.01 | Unknown | Thank you. All right, that moves us to the consent calendar, which there are a number of items here. The consent calendar, is supposed to be items that are routine and non-controversial which required a discussion are expected to have unanimous council support. So members of the public, however, or any member of the council may remove those items for further consideration. Does anyone from the public care to remove any item from the consent calendar? All right, seeing none, anybody from the council? |
| 00:04:00.15 | Carolyn Revell | Yes, item 4C. |
| 00:04:01.72 | Unknown | 4C. All right, and we'll put that That would be a... business, it would be a business item, right? Mm-hmm. Okay, so let's put that as |
| 00:04:16.36 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 00:04:16.73 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:04:16.77 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:04:17.36 | Carolyn Revell | OK? |
| 00:04:20.70 | Unknown | I guess nine or five. |
| 00:04:21.93 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 00:04:21.95 | Adam Politzer | Yeah. |
| 00:04:22.12 | Carolyn Revell | Yeah. |
| 00:04:25.52 | Unknown | G, yeah, 4G. |
| 00:04:25.68 | Adam Politzer | G. Mr. Mayor, if I may, just because I know Public Works is here and they have two items at the end, it may be worth putting that right after 4C, make that the new 4D. |
| 00:04:28.65 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:04:39.60 | Unknown | Make that 4D? Okay. 6D, I'm sorry. |
| 00:04:43.77 | Adam Politzer | So, |
| 00:04:43.80 | Unknown | 60. |
| 00:04:44.05 | Carolyn Revell | you |
| 00:04:44.31 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 00:04:44.90 | Carolyn Revell | Yeah, 60. |
| 00:04:53.00 | Unknown | And that's item. |
| 00:04:55.31 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:04:55.33 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:04:55.36 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:04:55.38 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:04:55.43 | Unknown | See. Thank you. |
| 00:04:56.05 | Carolyn Revell | Horses. |
| 00:04:56.64 | Unknown | C, right. I want C to 60. |
| 00:05:00.79 | Unknown | Okay. So with that removal, do we have a motion for approval of the consent calendar? |
| 00:05:07.22 | Carolyn Revell | I move we approve the consent calendar with the exception of 4C. I second. |
| 00:05:13.45 | Unknown | All in favor? Aye. |
| 00:05:14.07 | Carolyn Revell | I... |
| 00:05:14.45 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:05:14.55 | Carolyn Revell | Yeah. |
| 00:05:15.17 | Unknown | All right. And that brings us to public hearings, for which we have none. And the next item is six, business items 6A. Update from the local AC34 local organizing committee. Jim Gabbert and Jeff Shirash. |
| 00:05:32.92 | Jim | Ready? Yeah. Okay. I want to thank all of you very much and members of the city council and city officials. It's been kind of interesting since the last meeting. Things were kind of very stagnant with the America's Cup. We weren't sure where they were going, but in the past week, some very interesting things have happened, which Jeff will cover. I just want to mention that the three J's, myself, Jeff Shurash, and Jennifer Tejada, have been working. We meet sometimes twice a week. Jennifer, unfortunately, isn't here tonight because the swim meet for her son or something, but she has done an incredible thing. |
| 00:05:33.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:05:33.11 | Unknown | Bye. Yeah. OK. |
| 00:05:35.12 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:05:35.13 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:06:12.63 | Jim | In fact, I'll steal a little bit of Jeff's thunder, but she was able to... No, we're going to hold that to a little suspense. Is this TV 20 or what? Now, come on. What I'd like to show here now is they have changed the race course. And as far as we know now, this is the final race course... |
| 00:06:18.49 | Unknown | little |
| 00:06:19.85 | Unknown | Thank you. Is this TV 20 or what? No. |
| 00:06:23.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:06:23.74 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:06:23.77 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:06:34.31 | Jim | Oops, that one didn't work. It's a lot smaller. |
| 00:06:39.06 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:06:39.07 | Unknown | Jim, would you take the microphone with you? It's, |
| 00:06:43.71 | Jim | It's considerably smaller, and what happened was the shipping industry wanted to make sure that they could keep this channel open, and so |
| 00:06:43.83 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:06:43.90 | Unknown | It's not a problem. |
| 00:06:52.98 | Jim | And this along here, so that the white and red, white fleet, and all those could go by. So they've cut it way down. The other thing, we had a meeting with John Craig, who was their one of their organizers, and they were talking about how exciting this is gonna be in terms of television coverage. They have these GPS's that work within two to three centimeters. And it's unbelievable. Now the races, because they're being televised by NBC, are only 45 minutes long, which gives time to get the commercials in and everything. And I couldn't figure out, if you recall last time I said they were moving the marks. They're doing that. |
| 00:07:29.77 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:07:31.40 | Jim | to make it come out on the minute for television time. Because I couldn't figure out why would they move the marks. But it's all because of the televising of the event. Um, In the very beginning, it was a while back that the mayor, when Herb Weiner was mayor, had put together a committee, a task force, for us to figure out what is Sausalito's involvement going to be with the America's Cup. And in the beginning, we had a residence, We had a residence committee representing the residents and citizens of Sausalito, a maritime committee, and a merchant's committee. And we all got together, and all of those people, all volunteers, had multiple meetings and came up with a whole bunch of recommendations. A lot of people thought we weren't doing anything, and part of the reason was we weren't sure what was going on with the Americas Cup. And with what Jeff's going to tell you tonight, it becomes very, very exciting. Now, We... the task force, we decided that with the smaller race course, we're not going to see too much of the race from Sausalito. And if you looked on the side there, it's going to be kind of like the, you know, when we have the maritime thing, what's that called? The Fleet Week. Fleet Week. Okay. So, our goal was to put Sausalito on the AC34 radar screen and explore official |
| 00:08:48.05 | Unknown | Fleet Week. |
| 00:08:57.68 | Jim | options with the AC34 staff. We've done very well on that. We have a Southern Marin Maritime Committee that involves Kate Sears and she's done a very good job coming up with a lot of suggestions, a lot of ideas. Public Safety Task Force goes back to Chief Tejada. San Diego, she and Jeff Sheras went down, and they saw a lot of mistakes that were made. And we've been discussing how do we make sure we don't do that. We have set up now where we're partnershiping which Jeff will explain, with the AC34 people. And so there's a revenue potential for the city, a revenue potential for the merchants, and even already, I think today I found out, there was... petitions for two or three people to rent their houses out. I think that was today. And the EIR is being done primarily. That doesn't involve us because we're not doing the race. That's being done and accomplished over in San Francisco by the race committee. So the task force has done all of this And you'd be shocked at just how much time we put into it, but by the same token, we weren't sure what was happening. And last week, this great thing happened, and I'm gonna turn the mic over now to Jeff Shirash, He's got most of this, and it's very good news for Sausalito. |
| 00:10:15.45 | Jeff Shurash | Yes, Jim, thanks for the lead in there. Definitely a TV guy, I can see. Definitely an event schedule coming up quickly, as we can tell here, in just a few weeks. That's why we wanted to see you all today, so you can understand what's coming up, what we're expecting. Because the next time we see each other, of course, after August, the race will be over, and we're already getting close to October here. Coming up here, August 22nd through 26th, the Wednesday's going to be some some match racing and then the real racing course starts that on that Thursday through Sunday here in San Francisco. Then of course it comes back again October 4th through the 7th for the second series of the World Series event. Of course in 2013 we have them back again starting July 4th of the opening ceremonies. It goes really from the 5th of July through September 22nd with the Challenger Series and Louis Vuitton Series as well. So definitely quite a lot of racing coming up in the next two years. This next August we're really going to see What's going to really happen here in Sausalito? How is it going to affect us? I think even San Francisco is looking for the same thing too, as far as what's going to happen in August. In October of this coming year, it also coincides with Fleet Week, also finishes with Oracle World. We expect bigger crowds for October than August. But right now, of course, being our big tourism month, we're going to have to see some big crowds here in town as well. That leads to, of course, our spectator estimates. As if you're driving down Bridgeway, of course, just during the week or in weekend now, quite a few pedestrians out, whether it be walking, bikes, of course, people that are also driving. So, of course, these are spectator estimates that AC34 came up with, with the environmental review. But we can see outside San Francisco, some peak weekday of 420 to 560. Of course, weekend three to 4,000. Hard to say what's gonna happen during the race and after the race. A lot of people will be coming to town, probably not just to see the race, but also to venture out, whether it be Sausalito to Napa, to other areas. |
| 00:12:13.91 | Unknown | other areas. |
| 00:12:15.12 | Jeff Shurash | So we're expecting that to happen as well. I think that some of the peak weekday are a little low for us. Sausalito is definitely a destination. It's definitely a little different than if you're going further up north to some other our local communities with being on the water, having that waterfront village, I think it will attract quite a few people here to Sausalito, which is great. |
| 00:12:26.41 | Unknown | you can be. |
| 00:12:34.80 | Jeff Shurash | Of course, we've looked at many different things. Of course, we came a few months ago and said, well, if we do nothing, they're still gonna come. Definitely been looking to try to do something in really getting our committees here together. Of course, our local organizing committees met. We've been working with them to see what we can do, what opportunities are out there. Unfortunately, we've been a little stronghold with AC34 and their reorganization and things that they've been working on and having to move forward as fast as we would have liked. After Chief Tejada and I came back from San Diego, they did a reorg. They fired 40 people. It really put us behind because all of our contacts that we made in San Diego were gone. So it's been a real big change and a hardship for us to move forward, and they're still struggling to move forward to this day, unfortunately. But we have made some great strides here in the last week here. |
| 00:13:16.60 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:13:16.62 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:13:16.97 | Unknown | So, |
| 00:13:29.49 | Jeff Shurash | Of course, website we're working on at the moment. We're also working on capitalizing what opportunities are here for us, whether it be for businesses, for locals, for residents. We're looking at all different things. Also, the education piece as well. Chris Gallagher will talk about that here in a little bit, of what they're working on as well for the coming months and next year. And of course, just looking at other opportunities to really celebrate sailing, being a waterfront community, and really looking at that and determining what can we do to celebrate the waterfront, celebrate what we have in front of us. |
| 00:13:58.48 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:14:06.28 | Jeff Shurash | Some different, of course, part of the local organizing committee here, just different segments that we have, and we're still filling to this point. We have a lot of team members working to make sure everything happens here for us. Some pieces that have moved forward, Heidi Burns has done a great job in the community development department to really work on the temporary short-term vacation rental ordinance. Of course, it came in front of you a number of weeks ago. We've already got two people who have been granted permits as of yesterday. Of course letters have also been sent to the property owners in town so they understand what is needed in case they do decide to rent out their property as well. Of course I know it's been on the city email blast as well. |
| 00:14:41.45 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:14:41.70 | Unknown | STANDING. |
| 00:14:41.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:14:42.04 | Unknown | THE END OF |
| 00:14:42.09 | Unknown | They understand. |
| 00:15:01.39 | Jeff Shurash | Right now I'd like to ask Chris Gallagher if she can come up and talk a little bit about the education and community outreach that she's working on as well. She's done a great job of getting her committee together working on this too. |
| 00:15:13.86 | Chris Gallagher | Yeah, I've been working really hard. So Heather, who is with Cassis Marina, has done more of this than I, I should say. We met probably a couple months ago and just talked about |
| 00:15:16.14 | Jeff Shurash | So, |
| 00:15:29.67 | Chris Gallagher | the opportunities that we could do with the youth. So Jeff, can you, which way do I go with these slides? So, oh. So Heather's had a lot more experience in doing this than I in regards to the youth racing and so she wants to look at recruiting young people to be part of this, basically folks that are sixth to twelfth graders in school. |
| 00:15:53.86 | Jeff Shurash | She's. |
| 00:16:01.40 | Chris Gallagher | They would not have to have any prior sailing experience, but they could participate in such things as setting the race markers and things out on the course. She's looking at the Youth Americas Cup, which would be the race during the Louis Vuitton Cup, There could be a tie-in there for Sausalito. And then also recruiting some youth sailing ambassadors. There's evidently a model for this from Rhode Island that we could follow. Basically these youths would be available throughout the entire timeframe to answer questions about the race, help direct folks, just be ambassadors for the city of Sausalito. We would like to recruit the youth early in the year and But the challenge would be keeping their interest up and what they would be doing to maintain their education So. We've been here. I've had conversations with the Golden Gate Tall Ship Society, the Call of the Sea, who owns the Seaward that's at the Bay Model, the FREEDA, the Coast Guard Auxiliary, talking about what kinds of activities we could do for these youth to keep them engaged and entertained and just get their education up We would use the Bay model pretty much for the headquarters for these events because obviously we have a model of the Bay. So what better place to use it and to educate them? I've also talked to John Craig from the America's Cup about actually putting the race course in the model. So we're going to be doing that. And the Bay Model's also a part of a consortium that's partnering with other educational facilities around the Bay, the Oakland Museum, the California Discovery Museum, or the Bay Area Discovery Museum, Cal Academy of Science. Next year is the year of the Bay. Cal Oakland Museum is putting a huge exhibit in their gallery to celebrate the bay, and to also celebrate the America's Cup and celebrating the opening of the Bay Bridge Ban, which will be Labor Day next year, Labor Day weekend. And so we're part of that consortium as well. Um, Those are kinds of the things that we're planning for the Bay Model and in conjunction with the America's Cup group here in Sausalito. |
| 00:18:18.36 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you, Chris. |
| 00:18:22.34 | Jeff Shurash | And so this is the big piece that Jim was talking about. |
| 00:18:28.36 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:18:28.40 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 00:18:32.28 | Jeff Shurash | Earlier this week, Chief Tejada was able to convince our America's Cup folks that it would be a good idea for us to be able to sell American merchandise here in Sausalito. It's something that we'd wanted to do for quite a long time. We'd been working with them on this, and she was given the proper information, the proper people to go to, and we now have the ability to sell merchandise in town if we'd like. Definitely a big coup for us. It's a great opportunity being a lot of the- to go to and we now have the ability to sell merchandise in town if we'd like. Definitely a big coup for us. It's a great opportunity being a lot of the |
| 00:18:37.68 | Unknown | . |
| 00:19:02.86 | Jeff Shurash | whether it be tourists, locals, and different people coming in and wanting to buy some merchandise. So we've been quickly working with some experts here in town. Of course, we have Beth and Stacy, formerly of this and that, who have definitely stepped up to the plate and we are working with to see what opportunities are out there for this. So it's definitely a big coup for Sausalito in being able to do that. And also the second phase to that is exploring hospitality options, opportunities I should allowing for an opportunity for viewing of the race. Of course we have a great waterfront town here and it is going to be quite a distance between here in San Francisco and the race but what we've been working on of course is getting the live feed from AC 34 to show the entire America's Cup from start to finish. A lot of the racing that you'll see on TV is probably cut down depending on the commercial time and of course the timing of the race as Jim mentioned earlier. What we're going to do is of course try to get the full feed as far as what's on the boat, the interaction of course, what are they doing, the rating equipment, everything that they're doing on those boats and of course the competition out there as well, how they're competing against the people on the water. We definitely watch quite a bit of that in San Diego and that's the thrilling part of it rather than trying to see outside the boat on the boat. God, where are those boats going? They're kind of far out there. Kind of like NASCAR. You see them go by once, but it's hard to see them that second time before they come around again. |
| 00:20:32.95 | Unknown | I'm not sure. |
| 00:20:33.20 | Jeff Shurash | So we're working on that to see what opportunities are out there. We were on a conference call earlier today to really see what can we do and can't we do. It's still kind of an ongoing dialogue with the America's Cut people, but we're still trying to work through that. As well as if we do do it and have the possibility to do it, try to keep the hospitality affordable for people. |
| 00:20:33.42 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 00:20:52.85 | Jeff Shurash | being like a captain's hospitality, which is kind of an individual hospitality option where you could have some display hors d'oeuvres, some beer and wine hosted, and watch the race for $55 on a tall kiosk table. Or admiral's hospitality being a sit-down hospitality with a buffet meal, a full hosted bar, and partially served. So a little more of a higher end hospitality component to that, but these are still a work in progress, but to give you an idea, kind of what we're going for. |
| 00:20:53.13 | Unknown | being with you. |
| 00:21:22.85 | Jeff Shurash | The reason is also San Francisco is charging top dollar for their hospitality. Their entry level hospitality is $650. Their higher end hospitality is $1,500. So obviously we definitely are not competing with the same market, but trying to be affordable to our residents, to our locals, and to our Marinites here as well. But also just create a great atmosphere, a viewing atmosphere for the race. |
| 00:21:36.94 | Unknown | with the same market. |
| 00:21:50.48 | Jeff Shurash | Jim. |
| 00:21:53.90 | Jim | Okay, one thing I wanted to mention here now is, now I was gone this weekend, I was in Dallas, Texas, Gosh, that's a different country. Like reoccurring training on American Airlines. But I understand from Jeff that traffic was a mess here over the weekend in Sausalito, and the weekend before that it was. And if we have as many people as we think that are coming to Sausalito, we are going to need, I think, for instance, make traffic move faster, is you need, like, pedestrian guards. Okay, stop the pedestrians, especially by the Sausalito Hotel and by the park, because the other ones who really screw up traffic, because, you know, it's a constant. They just kind of wander all over the place. And these are things that we've been talking with that Chief Tejada is working on. The other thing is, with this America's Cup, and they're giving us exclusive rights as a committee to sell their stuff, is there, and with what we want to do with the hospitality things, there is possibility of some real positive revenue, and we've appointed Dennis Freeman as the chair of, we want that to go to |
| 00:22:02.09 | Unknown | That's good. |
| 00:22:03.81 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 00:22:59.39 | Jim | to bring the charities and good causes and we want to keep it primarily Sausalito and Marin County, but we want to keep it local and home. and put it to good, worthy causes, if there is any. We still have this unknown, but I have a feeling with the excitement that they're building. And I've been to two or three of the meetings now that John Craig has done, how they're going to televise this, I think it's going to be kind of a big deal. August, we're not sure if we have time to do anything, because it's two weeks, three weeks away. But, so we're still kind of, it's all, it just, you know, work in progress. And that kind of is it. I'd like to open it up. Jeff, do you want to come up too? We'd like to open it up if any of you have any questions. |
| 00:23:41.26 | Jeff Shurash | I just wanted to mention two people here in the audience who just came in. Heather Richards is the vice chair with Chris Gallagher, of course, on the education outreach. And of course, Una Kavanaugh, our CEO of the Saucer Chamber, is also working in the business community on the business outreach as well. So I just want to acknowledge those individuals as well. Any questions? |
| 00:24:00.58 | Unknown | Any questions? All right. Any questions from the Council? |
| 00:24:05.26 | Unknown | Let the games begin. |
| 00:24:06.91 | Unknown | So I have a question. The first races are the smaller boats, right? That's the one that's coming up soon? The I'm not sure the big one |
| 00:24:14.98 | Jim | that's next year. We went to their Pier 80 and those things are like hundreds of feet. They're wings, they're not sails. I mean, they're pretty impressive. Right. And I don't know if you saw, it was in all of the television, I think it was last week, where they called it like, it was like a circus train, lawn train with all the boats in it going out to Pier 80. Kind of, I don't know why, but it hit all the television because there's some executives on a locomotive and a bunch of box cars going by and they're saying, wow, that's great. It's like a circus coming to town or something. |
| 00:24:24.68 | Unknown | However. Right. |
| 00:24:46.08 | Unknown | All right. And where would the hospitality likely be when you set up the hospitality tent or the area or? Thank you. |
| 00:24:52.96 | Jim | We're thinking, and again, explain the possibility of copying what they did with the Amp Jam and the Madden, send them permission to do it. And there's the possibilities of having one side, all Isinglass facing the bay. And all of that's still a work in progress. |
| 00:24:58.85 | Unknown | and said, |
| 00:25:05.96 | Jeff Shurash | Right. |
| 00:25:09.89 | Jeff Shurash | Right, and obviously it's a smaller type tent than we would do for the Amplature California, a full tent, and a smaller, of course, scalable version, depending on what we're doing, if we're doing it at all at this point. Yeah, okay. But we're just making sure everyone's understanding what the ideas are on the table. |
| 00:25:17.38 | Unknown | version. |
| 00:25:17.70 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:25:20.92 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:25:26.61 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:25:26.93 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. Terrific. All right, any other questions? Just a quick comment. I'd like to say that Jeff, if you keep hanging out with Jim, you're going to be talking faster than he does. |
| 00:25:28.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:25:28.70 | Jeff Shurash | Bye. |
| 00:25:28.74 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:25:29.58 | Jeff Shurash | Just a quick... |
| 00:25:40.16 | Unknown | you got to remember one thing, Carolyn, is we always had, you got thirty seconds to say it, okay? |
| 00:25:46.09 | Unknown | So, |
| 00:25:48.38 | Unknown | So with that, I want to thank all of you. And as this guy used to say on television, bye kids. |
| 00:25:49.34 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:25:53.86 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:25:56.01 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:25:56.02 | Unknown | All right, thank you very much. Does any member of the public care to say anything about this or address the council on any matters concerning AC 34? All right, we'll move right along. We're at item seven. |
| 00:26:11.24 | Unknown | Oh, I just wanted to make a comment because I see there's been a lot of work that's gone into this. And I just want to thank Jim and Jeff and Heather and Chris and everyone who's working on this. It looks very exciting and I really liked what I heard today. So thank you. |
| 00:26:27.95 | Unknown | All right. Anybody else? Okay. Good. Thank you very much. All right, we'll move to item 6B, which is the library remodel update. And Abbott Chambers. Welcome, Abbott. |
| 00:26:58.12 | Unknown | I made it with the PowerPoint. Got the PowerPoint going on. |
| 00:27:01.85 | Unknown | Thank you. |
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| 00:28:20.53 | Unknown | All right, well, I apologize for that unintended break there. So I'm here tonight to give you an update on the library remodel project. Before I get started, though, I wanted to acknowledge in the audience tonight, representatives from the library's board of trustees, from the library foundation, and from the friends of the library. For my presentation this evening, I'm going to give, first off, an update on library performance metrics. I will then review the project history for the library remodel. I'll spend some time talking about why we're remodeling, what the challenges are that we see in the library, and what solutions we are proposing to address those challenges through the remodel. When I present the solutions, I'll also be showing designs and drawings from our plans. And I'll wrap up with the project timeline. So let me start off by talking about the library's performance metrics. So basically, how are we doing? I presented some numbers back in February when I was here last. And I'm pleased to say that things continue to move well for the library. Our total circulation of all materials is up 14% for the first six months of 2012. That's compared to the first six months of 2011. Within those numbers, circulation of children's books, up 22% to over 8,500. So a sign that the children of Sausalito are making more use of the library. Moving on to e-books, Sausalito remains number one in e-book checkouts per capita in the county. That's other city libraries and the county library. And over 1,500 e-books have been borrowed by Sausalito residents since January 1st. And the library has five Kindle touch models that were circulating to local residents, and those have gone out 88 times since February. And I think with those last two, we're really seeing that the library has gotten a foothold with the community with introducing e-books and e-reading. It's an important foothold, but it's just a start because we're going to see things continuing to evolve rapidly here. You'll also recall from my last presentation that the metrics here stand against goals that we set for the library to bring the library up to speed with best practices for public libraries in the country. I have to say, though, the library remodel project has been moving a little less rapidly But we've made very steady progress and have been methodical, and I think you'll be pleased with what I have to present tonight. So let me recap the history of the remodel up to this point. In May of 2011, the city council approved the original remodel plan that was also known as the library makeover. And $100,000 was allocated from the library's capital improvement fund. That's city money and then $100,000 was pledged generously by the Sausalito Library Foundation. for a total of $200,000 for the project. I began work here in October of 2011. began reviewing the original remodel plan, observing the library, And in December of 2011, I proposed to the library trustees that we should make some changes to that original And in February of 2012 when I was here last, I covered many of those changes with the council In March of 2012, we hired John McCoy as our project architect. And having John on board, completed our project team with our project manager, Lauren Umbertas of the Department of Public Works. And Lauren is here tonight. right behind me, who is also available to answer questions about the project, about the construction phase of the project. John McCoy, our architect, John McCoy works, has an office here in town. And as furniture consultants, Garen McDonald of the Ross McDonald Company. They are library furniture specialists here in the Bay Area. And Joanne Goldschmidt of Jay Goldschmidt & Associates. Joanne is a Foundation Board member and her company specializes in design consulting and commercial furniture. So let me continue with the project history. In April and May of 2012, we were focusing on refining our plans and getting estimates on furniture and construction costs. In June of 2012, the library trustees met and they approved those estimates and they recommended moving forward with our project. The game plan that we set at that time and that actually we've been working with up to that point was that the city would cover the construction side of the project and the library foundation would be responsible for the furniture side of the project. In June of 2012, the Library Foundation Board formally approved a grant of up to $100,000 to cover items from that furniture estimate. Our original plan was to start construction in August of 2012. We've revised that date. We're currently looking at October of 2012. Though there are potentially some risks that could push that back further. And I'll talk about those later as well. So why are we remodeling? If you walk around the library, looked at the library, what would you identify as challenges that we have today And what kind of solutions can we find through a remodel that will help us meet those challenges? Well, the first is that we have more kids here in Sausalito. This is data from the U.S. Census comparing 2000 to 2010. There's been about a 40% increase in Sausalito children ages 0 through 9. So we're up at about 450 today. They're not, okay. |
| 00:34:31.10 | Unknown | Those numbers are also reflected in Sausalito Marin City School District numbers. Their enrollment figures are showing that Sausalito and Marin City are going from about 250 students as of 2006-2007 to about 400 in this current year. They're projecting it up to about 500 in 2017 and 2018. I think much of the expectation is that with the success of the Willow Creek School, many Thank you. year, and they're projecting it up to about 500 in 2017 and 2018. I think much of the expectation is that with the success of the Willow Creek School, many more kids are staying here in town, going to school in town. So we're seeing the library more busy, and our experience parallels what we're seeing here. But with more kids in town and more kids in the library, we have more noise. This is a shot from the Bubble Lady's visit here. I think it was last fall. But today we had a magic show. We had 73 kids up front here in the audience and 37 adults like me who can't get enough of kids' shows. It's a wonderful thing to see, but it's also amazing the amount of noise that kids generate when they're having fun. And within the library's current layout, and this is our current floor plan, the children's space is back here in this part of the library. Now you'll recall that we're in the old central school building here. And the library is the school auditorium. And the... The children's area happens to be where the stage of the auditorium was. Obviously, that's a recipe for disaster when it comes to noise, projecting out of the children's space into the living room of the library, even farther back into the stacks. The noise is a bad thing for kids because kids, we really want children to come into the library and be enthused, excited. We don't want to be in a situation where we're having to shush The children. And we want for our adult users who love the library's living room atmosphere, they like to come in and sit quietly and read and work on the computer, we don't want them disturbed either. So our solution is to install a double-paned glass door front, enclosing that old stage proscenium and creating a noise baffle between the children's base and the rest of the library. At the same time that we will create the storefront, we'll also need to relocate the doors that bracket both sides of the children's space. Those currently open up into the diagonal, so they would otherwise open up into the children's space. We'll also need to do some HVAC work. The airflow of the building currently relies on a vent in the children's space that circulates with the rest of the floor space. So we'll need to do some work up above the office areas and above the children's space to recirculate that air. Here's another view of that storefront in elevation this time. Another challenge we have is our staff workroom. We currently have four full-time employees that share this work from Thanks to you all, we now have a full-time children's librarian that then brought us up to four full-time people. They have a lot of stuff in there, and it's a testament to their professionalism and dedication that they're able to get the amount of work that they get done, given their cramped situation here. The shelving that we have is not particularly well designed for the kinds of things we're storing. the of sealing. You can't really see it here, obviously, but the ceiling is relatively low. So there's a sense of being really kind of trapped in that space. The biggest window that they have has been blocked over because children's book stacks are now covering it. What we'd like to do within the remodel is reconstruct the staff workroom. The first thing that we'll do, and perhaps the most dramatic change, is raising the ceiling. It's not a load-bearing ceiling, so relatively inexpensively we can raise it a few feet, and that would give us room to put new windows in, and those windows would give out into the children's space. The children's space has its own windows, so we'd actually be able to get some natural light into the staff workroom. Thank you. in and those windows would give out into the children's space. The children's space has its own windows, so we'd actually be able to get some natural light into the staff workroom. We would install new storage above the desks and also below the desks so we'd have more functional and more efficient storage space and would also be bringing the staff workroom into ADA compliance. Another challenge that we have in the library is merchandising. This is a picture from a Barnes and Noble, I think, but it's true of any retail outlet that you would go into. They are showing you their latest and greatest stuff, the new stuff, the things that they're investing in. And what's unfortunate with a lot of libraries is you walk in and you don't really see the new things that are being purchased. You don't see where the money is going. And I think that's an area that we could really stand to improve on. in Sausalito. And we proposed to do that through the remodel with mobile display shelving. Purchasing seven of these units, they're called mobile gondolas. They're much better for putting face outward displays, whether it's new materials or popular materials or some kind of thematic display. And in our DVD section, we'll be putting, I think they call that an octagon, but it's also great for arraying recommended purchases, I mean, recommended things for people to borrow, things that we've purchased that we're recommending to the community. And we just find that by definition, if we bought it for the library, someone's recommending it. And it makes a huge difference if we put things out on display, whether they're put out haphazardly or with any care, because people somehow feel like they've been invested with some specialness. And it also makes, I think, the library more inviting place when they see all these different resources that are available. Another challenge that we have within the current floor plan is a lack of flexibility. You'll see in this photo in the foreground we have the reference desk In the background there to the left is the circulation desk. We have two separate service desks. They don't communicate particularly well together. If someone needs help and the person at the circulation desk has walked away, the person from reference has to walk over to help that person, vice versa for circulation. So we have a relatively inflexible desk situation, and it also ends up taking up a lot of real estate because we have these two desks occupying important parts of the floor. You'll also see that Over to the right here, we have occupying the very center part of the library, this built-in unit that has public computers and also reference books on the back side. So we're essentially taking over the premier space right in the middle of the library with things that are either rarely used or are meant to be done kind of privately. People are doing their email and suddenly they're the ones who are, boom, out front and center in the library. So our proposal, our proposed solution to this, is to create a more open floor plan for the library. Two. remove those built-ins from the middle of the space, to have those mobile display shelves out in the middle area. By having mobile shelving, It also gives us the possibility to reel those out of the way if we had a program or some kind of event. It also makes us more flexible just looking towards the future. We don't really know what the future is going to bring for us. And by not having large built-in units in the center part of the library, it makes us more flexible going forward. We're also planning to install a single service desk instead of two separate desks. You'll see it more clearly here. But it would be a desk that would combine reference functions and circulation functions and also give us the flexibility if at some later date we ended up deciding, say, on evenings, that we only wanted to have one staff member on duty, we could have a single station there instead of just having one empty station with no one around. Another challenge that we have are the new technologies. New mobile devices are coming on the market every day. This is a screenshot of Google's new tablet. Their Nexus 7, they're selling it for $199. That is likely a price that's going to continue going down, and these are the devices that people increasingly will be reading books and watching movies on. Within the library and within the library remodel, we're proposing First off, to facilitate introducing the community to these new technologies through an area that we call the petting zoo. This is our sort of current version of the petting zoo. The petting zoo, obviously, where you go and pet the goat or the sheep. In this case, you are trying the Kindle or the iPad. So we have an iPad set up here for people to try out. We're actually also circulating an iPad that someone donated to the library. Amen. We also have a Kindle that's out for people to try. and circulating Kindles, and then a large display talking about classes and teaching people how to use the library's e-book collections. So within the remodel, we have a dedicated space for this sort of technology instruction. We also plan to install more outlets for laptops and other mobile devices. People need juice to charge their mobile devices. And currently, you'll find cords stretched around the library in various snake-like configurations. We'd like to improve that environment for our patrons. So let me come back to the project itself and our current project timetable. We're currently looking at August 2012, so within the next couple of weeks receiving our building permit for construction. And then before or right around that time, distributing a bid packet to contractors. It will be an informal bid process because we're below the $140,000 city threshold. The plan will be to publicize the project in the MarinScope and also to notify selected local contractors that the project's available. |
| 00:45:26.95 | Unknown | In September of 2012, we plan to select the contractor and place our furniture order and begin construction in October of 2012, And in December 2012, complete the construction and install the furniture. Now there are some risks to that timetable. The first is that we have this $100,000 cap on money that is coming from the city, and this is a breakdown of our best estimates for what different components of the construction side of the project, so the city side of the project, is likely to cost us from a storefront costing $30,000, electrical and data $20,000 on down. As the bathroom project recently showed to us, we can't predict what contractors are going to come back to us with. So there's some risk that The bids would all come back over our thresholds. Our plan in that environment is to look at ways that we can cut corners, have the contractors rebid. I think if we reached a point where We felt like we were having to cut too close to the bone. At that point, I would approach the various library support groups and see if they wouldn't be willing to contribute money in addition to what they're contributing for the furniture to help us out with the construction side of the project. Another risk would be change orders. We'll try to bake some cushion into the bid that we get for the construction because we do have an old building. Who knows what people are going to find? We've already had to raise the electrical estimate because we had an electrician in looking at our circuit box. And I think Lauren could tell you more about it, but it sounds like it was a somewhat horrifying experience for him. |
| 00:47:18.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:47:22.61 | Unknown | Thank you. There's also the risk that there may be some furniture fabrication delays, but I think that's less likely. But if that were to happen, we might end up in a situation where construction had been finished, but we had to kind of spin our wheels until the furniture arrived and could be installed. Our goal is to keep the library open as much as possible during the project. So during the construction phase, the plan is to put a drop cloth covering that children's area, covering the offices, and then relocate the children's area, the circulation desk, and the offices, but keep the main area of the library open. It's not necessarily always going to be the most pleasant environment. There's likely to be noise. There's going but for a project of this relatively limited scope, the amount of work it would take for us to relocate the library offsite would likely be next to impossible. It would take us a long time just to move them, and by the time we finish moving things and setting up to open up this substitute library, we'd probably be almost done with the construction. |
| 00:48:34.18 | Unknown | Then during the furniture installation phase, the plan is to, and then we're talking about a couple weeks here, at least that's what we hope it's going to take, that we would close the main area of the library entirely, create a little micro library in the Litho Street lobby with a checkout area with carts that have current movies, current best-selling books, a small children's cart, a catalog computer, and if people need books that are back in the stacks, we would go back and retrieve them for them. |
| 00:49:07.03 | Unknown | And I think when all is said and done, we'll have a better library. We'll have a library that better meets the needs of people of Sausalito of all ages. And we'll have a library that looks towards the future, that is going to help us move into this 21st century and all the changes it brings. So with that, I'd be glad to take any questions. And as I said, Lauren is here as well to answer any questions. |
| 00:49:36.53 | Unknown | All right. Any questions from the council? |
| 00:49:40.91 | Carolyn Revell | I have one. It looks like... unless I was asleep during your last presentation, that there have been a few changes. The storefront, isn't that new for the children? |
| 00:49:54.20 | Unknown | I, |
| 00:49:54.30 | Carolyn Revell | I think. Yeah. |
| 00:49:54.48 | Unknown | I mentioned the store find at the last presentation, but I don't think at that point I had a drawing to show. Yeah, that's okay. Yeah. |
| 00:50:01.00 | Carolyn Revell | Yeah, that's okay. Captured what we were talking about. Yeah, that looks like it's a great idea. Plus lighting up the workroom for the employees also. So I think it looks great. Good, thanks. |
| 00:50:17.30 | Unknown | I just had a question. Thank you. So yeah, this is the aesthetics are wonderful. You've got a great team. And my question was looking at the solution for the children's area and looking at your graph where you were projecting increased population for children, do you feel that that space, investing money in that space to seal that off will take you into the future? |
| 00:50:17.67 | Carolyn Revell | Yes. |
| 00:50:43.25 | Unknown | Good question. I think it's going to give us more space for kids. So that is a benefit in addition to having the noise reduction. But I think longer term, it's a longer term question for us as a community whether the current library we have is enough. It's a question that Sausalito has wrestled with for over 100 years, and I think we'd be foolish not to do what we can now, but I think we should definitely have our eye on the future, and certainly if I'm successful at this job and my heart and soul is in it, we're going to be so busy and so successful that I'd like to challenge the community to say, maybe we need to invest in the bigger facility. |
| 00:50:59.60 | Unknown | . |
| 00:51:35.72 | Adam Politzer | Can I add something there? One is Abbott is going to be very successful. I think that we would all agree that he's already been very successful. But just a reminder and Abbott and I've had this conversation Thank you. |
| 00:51:48.03 | Unknown | Uh, |
| 00:51:48.36 | Adam Politzer | We are working as a city with the school district, and as he mentioned before, with Willow Creek and with now the full-time children's librarian, there are opportunities during the interim to work with the school and their existing library there to look at after hours, and then when the school is closed, to expand some services there so that we create a civic center of sorts over at the school. I don't know if you want to expand on that. |
| 00:52:13.08 | Unknown | No, I think that puts it well. We are having conversations with the folks at Willow Creek and at Bayside and looking at ways that we can collaborate with them. So that's a way for us to expand our reach and our expertise without necessarily expanding the physical facility here at Litho Street. |
| 00:52:35.72 | Unknown | Abbott, have you thought at all about using the upstairs as the temporary kind of home for people with computers and more of a while you close the library and so you could keep the library, you could get more done faster if you actually close that room than if you tried to stretch it out and |
| 00:52:54.56 | Unknown | Yeah, we've thought about it. Thank you. |
| 00:52:58.55 | Unknown | You could also sell books while you're in the library where you can buy a book and go home. And stuff up. |
| 00:52:58.59 | Unknown | Thank you. Well, you're in the library you can buy, but... We have Libby Wilkins in here tonight. She's our bookstore czar. And I suppose if it did prove that the noise was so out of control that people were really unhappy, we could look at exploring some other options. |
| 00:53:03.97 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:53:04.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:53:14.33 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:53:19.85 | Unknown | I would imagine that you're not, there's no way around it. Yeah. So better to sort of swallow the pill ahead of time than to maybe wait and torture yourself every day. |
| 00:53:24.19 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:53:32.98 | Unknown | Yeah. Oh. One challenge that we have in that space, as we were thinking about it, is that the wiring there is probably as bad as any part of the building. And I can recall even having trouble finding a cord to plug in a laptop. So that's one area where it would be deficient to meet the needs of the folks that we have. |
| 00:53:34.74 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:53:41.97 | Unknown | Mm. |
| 00:53:49.70 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:53:49.72 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 00:53:50.01 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 00:53:50.48 | Unknown | That's what I'm saying. |
| 00:53:54.56 | Unknown | Yeah, there's no easy solution. |
| 00:53:58.19 | Unknown | Our hope is, if the weather's good, to be able to spread out onto the patio, potentially both the Litho Street side and also down below outside the Edgewater Room. The wireless network does reach out that far. We do have laptops that we use for training people in basic computer skills. Another option would be for us to basically just circulate the laptops and have people sit out there on the patio. The risk is if our schedule starts drifting into winter, you don't want laptops out there in the rain. |
| 00:54:10.12 | Jeff Shurash | while. you have |
| 00:54:35.55 | Unknown | Any more questions from the council? All right. Seeing none, thank you very much. We'll open for public comment. Any member of the public care to address the council on this issue? |
| 00:54:47.38 | Unknown | uh, |
| 00:54:47.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:54:48.02 | Unknown | I'll bring you back. I asked Lauren a question before. Lauren do you think that budget is adequate given you know the once you open the walls kind of experience we have when we do something in City Hall. |
| 00:54:50.22 | Unknown | Okay. Bye. |
| 00:55:03.41 | Unknown | . That's scheduled here. All right. |
| 00:55:06.38 | Unknown | That was it. Here we go. Thank you. |
| 00:55:09.98 | Unknown | We've taken a look at certain of these areas. We've had contractors actually give us proposals as we went through it. The storefront number we're pretty confident on. We just had a good electrician come in who's done some work here in City Hall. That number right there is what they came through, but they did make some more suggestions about the electrical. I'm a little concerned about that number, and that's because the panel that's in there right now is maxed out. If we can try to find some area where maybe some of those circuits are not being fully utilized or do some work there, that is a number. The workroom number, |
| 00:55:33.11 | Jeff Shurash | Yeah. |
| 00:55:33.89 | Unknown | Mmm. |
| 00:55:43.78 | Unknown | Wait, before you leave that, does that include lights too? |
| 00:55:46.55 | Unknown | It does include the lights. It includes the lights in the new children's area and it includes the full number of outlets in all the work areas when we originally went down and added those outlets. We sat down a week after that and went through a number of those outlets and were able to take out quite a few out of the circulation desk, out of some other areas where we have some redundancy there. So that number that he originally gave me was an estimate of about 21K including lights, including outlets, and it was the full number of outlets. We've since reduced the number, so hopefully the offset of the reduction in outlets will compensate for the panel work. The workroom number is the number of outlets. |
| 00:56:06.22 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:56:17.39 | Jeff Shurash | So. |
| 00:56:19.45 | Unknown | Offset. |
| 00:56:25.78 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 00:56:25.81 | Unknown | Workroom number. |
| 00:56:27.47 | Unknown | Thank you. Abbott had worked with Joanne prior, and she came up with a number similar to that, so I feel okay about that number. The HVAC and spray numbers, the HVAC is very small. There's a small unit that's above the staff room now. The ceiling that's being raised in there is going to be a drop ceiling. It's not a lot of work in that, and so we should be, that number I'm confident about. The painting becomes, it's going to be, we're going to have to play with that one because of the height of the walls. The architect is what it is. As far as change doors are concerned, there are a lot of pieces of work that are in very specific areas. For the electrical outlets, the floor outlets, we can work from below and we can get a little bit of access from the Edgewater room, from the women's restroom,, from some of those spots. So hopefully we can get some of those in there. There already are some floor outlets in there that we don't necessarily like a location of. So hopefully we can get access to that easily. The question mark is really the panel and when we really dive into that panel and take a look at that. |
| 00:57:16.30 | Jeff Shurash | where we are. with |
| 00:57:31.85 | Unknown | Okay. All right. I think we closed the public comment, so do we have any comments here from the dais? |
| 00:57:40.00 | Carolyn Revell | Mr. Mayor? |
| 00:57:40.69 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:57:40.72 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. You know, I would like to suggest that any money that is made from the America's Cup instead of being given to as donations to charities that we give it to the library. Thank you. Because everyone benefits from the library and, you know, we, the city has no money and, everyone donates right now to all the various activities. So if we have any money coming out of that, we need Jim Gabbert and Jeff back here. But I think it would be a wonderful thing to do. |
| 00:58:19.77 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:58:19.86 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 00:58:19.92 | Unknown | back here |
| 00:58:24.39 | Carolyn Revell | I don't think you're... |
| 00:58:24.48 | Unknown | Thank you. I don't think Abbott would disagree, would you? |
| 00:58:24.97 | Unknown | but we'll do that. |
| 00:58:29.44 | Unknown | I would think there's far more needier causes than to give ourselves money than people who actually need help just to live. So I think if we need to increase the cost, Thank you. |
| 00:58:43.95 | Unknown | Well, we can find some mechanisms. |
| 00:58:44.12 | Unknown | We can find some. |
| 00:58:46.03 | Unknown | We might be able to do both. |
| 00:58:48.44 | Unknown | Thank you. We can find mechanisms. Lauren, I had one question. Actually, it was a question of Abbott. How many Kindles do you rent out? And is it maxed out all the time? Are they always out? |
| 00:59:01.10 | Unknown | Yeah. Thank you. We have five of them and they come in waves and so they'll come back through. I think we have a couple on the shelf right now, but it's been very steady and every month we'll add one or two new best sellers and there'll be another run on them. |
| 00:59:18.93 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 00:59:18.97 | Unknown | Mmm. |
| 00:59:23.80 | Unknown | The Days of Grey trilogy is currently loaded on them. |
| 00:59:24.22 | Unknown | great, true |
| 00:59:24.98 | Jeff Shurash | Please. |
| 00:59:25.72 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:59:25.77 | Jeff Shurash | It's... |
| 00:59:28.08 | Unknown | loaded on. Um, Thank you. |
| 00:59:31.93 | Unknown | I have learned that people enjoy reading more racing material on these mobile devices because they don't have a cover. Cover, yeah. So the circulation, I think, varies as people are considering buying them and also as people are wanting to read the new things that we've installed. Great. |
| 00:59:41.09 | Unknown | COVERAGE. Yeah. |
| 00:59:54.10 | Unknown | Thank you. Any more comments from the Dyson? |
| 00:59:56.78 | Unknown | Yes, thank you. Yeah, I just want to say that I know you've been working on this. You and your team have been working on this for a long time, and it's so exciting to see it all coming together and everything. I want to applaud you and the team, all the volunteers, for their hard work. And I really like the fact that you're using so much local talent, and you mentioned local architects, local contractors. I think that's great. And I also support the idea of leveraging America's cap proceeds to help with this. I think that's a great idea from Councilmember Ford. So thank you. Yeah, thank you. |
| 01:00:34.15 | Unknown | Thank you. Yeah, thank you. And I should just take that as an opportunity also to commend the entire library team that we have, the foundation, the friends, the trustees. We've all been working collectively very hard on this and the expertise that has come from different components of that larger library support group has been invaluable. |
| 01:00:57.22 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:00:57.32 | Unknown | you |
| 01:00:57.57 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:00:57.64 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:00:57.97 | Unknown | Anything else? |
| 01:00:58.53 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:01:03.88 | Unknown | Before we leave the subject, I'd like to say that I have not as much as I'd like to have, but I've talked with Abbott about his redesign on several different occasions, and I think he's done a magnificent job of designing something that's going to be very useful to the community, much more useful than the plan that we originally had. And I challenge you and Lauren, because I know you're both very capable, to plan carefully and to take dry runs at this, okay? Work with the contractor, take dry runs, rehearse, just like it was a play, and then execute. I know you will do that. So congratulations on having a great plan. All right, that brings us to item 6D, which is the police. Oh, you moved the police? I'm sorry, 6C, which is Fire Department quarterly report. Jim. Chief. |
| 01:02:00.95 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:02:04.49 | Unknown | Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council Members. Debbie's going to pull up something for me here in a minute. I'll hopefully be able to figure this thing out this time. |
| 01:02:04.58 | Unknown | GOOD EVENING, MR. |
| 01:02:13.36 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:02:17.84 | Unknown | Okay, I'm doing a quarterly update. Actually, I think it's been six months since I last did an update, so I'm going to go ahead and do six months. I was before you, I guess it was about three months ago, but we didn't really talk about a lot of the incidents we've been running. And since that time, we've had a lot of changes, obviously. |
| 01:02:42.36 | Unknown | Okay, I'll talk about the types of incidents briefly, the number of fires we had, etc. And what I have here is just a listing of the types of incidents we responded on. Number one, in all of Southern Marin and then specifically within Sausalito. As you can see, number of fires, 56 fires in the last six months, with 21 of those being in Sausalito. 1,000 medical responses with 438 of those in Sausalito. Hazardous conditions, that includes any type of hazardous materials, gas leaks, spills, oil, etc. And 54 total, 22 in Sausalito. |
| 01:02:58.93 | Unknown | Yeah. Uh, |
| 01:03:10.78 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 01:03:11.00 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:03:25.19 | Unknown | Good intent calls are incidents in which it turns out it's reported as, for example, smoke. People call and say there's smoke coming from the neighbor's house. We respond and find that it's, in fact, a barbecue, that sort of thing. So they're not real calls, but they're calls that people called in, they thought they were a fire or something like that. We get a fair amount of those. Service calls, these are a lot of the things that we do that help out the community. A lot of those are children locked in cars, people left a pot on the stove. The classic one you all hear about is getting the cat out of the tree, which we don't really do a lot of, but we do a lot of other things to help out citizens. you know, carrying people, you know, people who are in wheelchairs or just coming home from the hospital. We carry a lot of people up to their houses or down to their cars. There's a lot of, you know, particularly here in Sausalito, there's a lot of, you know, stairs and people who, you know, have injuries need that help and so we do a lot of that to tell about the community. Fire alarms, that's your typical fire alarms going off that turn out to be not fires otherwise they would be listed as a natural fire. And then finally severe weather calls and that is when the trees start falling down and that sort of stuff. If it actually strikes a house we consider it a severe weather call but we do a lot within the service calls of going out and just cutting trees to provide access on the streets when trees come down during the winter. |
| 01:04:06.86 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:04:07.73 | Jeff Shurash | We don't. |
| 01:04:08.93 | Unknown | I'm going to go. |
| 01:04:33.47 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:04:41.03 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:05:14.00 | Unknown | So what have we done this year? Well, we transitioned all the employees to Southern Wind Fire. So all the former City Sausalito Fire Department employees have been moved over to Southern Wind Fire. You know, we transferred over their payroll, their retirement workman's comp, etc. Transition of all the services. When we went into this, there was a lot of stuff to be done. We've been real busy here in the last couple of months moving over utilities, phones, cable, all of the... Shades of Grey subscription. Yeah, Shades of Grey subscription. Exactly all that stuff. Combining all the contractual agreements. our agreements for the Hazardous Materials, JPA, Dispatch Services, the SMEMS, which is the Southern Marine Emergency Medical Paramedic System, and dealing with all those things that have been sort of in limbo for many years now, we're finally able to create one responsibility for JPA, one contract with the county for dispatch services, etc. And then putting insurance into place, making sure all the vehicles are covered for insurance and things along that line and making sure that all the paperwork is taken care of and actually transferring all the equipment over. |
| 01:05:31.52 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:05:31.65 | Jim | and the same. |
| 01:05:31.97 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:05:32.26 | Unknown | Go. |
| 01:05:32.48 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:05:50.11 | Unknown | Thank you. It's good. It's exactly all that stuff. |
| 01:06:00.47 | Unknown | I remember. |
| 01:06:36.96 | Unknown | We appointed two Sausalito residents to the Southern Rim Board of Directors. |
| 01:06:41.72 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:06:41.78 | Unknown | Thank you. As I think you probably know, Peter Van Meter was appointed as a full member of the board back in June 28th. He replaced Doug Wriston who resigned from the board. And then just last night the board appointed former police and fire chief Steve Willis as a full member of the board. And so now Sausalito has two voting members on the board of directors for the Southern Fire Protection District. So it's been the board's intention all along to give Sausalito good representation on the board. |
| 01:07:17.07 | Unknown | Either one of those people are very opinionated, so they probably won't represent Sausalito at all. That's right. |
| 01:07:19.23 | Unknown | they probably That's right. Interestingly, last night at the meeting, Peter Van Meter's already suggesting how we should do our planning and all that, and pulling in ideas that did come right out of the city of Sausalito's planning process. You're welcome. Thank you. It's your choice. He's telling us all about the priority list. |
| 01:07:35.60 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 01:07:35.70 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. It's your choice. He's telling us all about the priority list. Yeah. |
| 01:07:44.59 | Unknown | Thank you. Future relations with the City of Sausalito. We're committed to being part of the Sausalito community. We continue to take part in the city staff meetings and strategic planning process. Our staff is going to continue to work with the city and assist the public with the building processes and the safety concerns and improving the quality of life in Sausalito. You know, we are still your fire department and we're still very involved. We're going to be very life in Sausalito. We are still your fire department, and we're still very involved. We're going to be very involved in the pancake breakfast, the parades. Anything that goes on in Sausalito, we're still going to be here. So it's not like we're some outside agency. We're still the fire department here. Future goals. One of the things that we'd really like to do is get the wildland urban interface code adopted here in Sausalito. It establishes a more stringent building code for areas that are considered very high hazard within the wildland urban interface. Our goal is to bring that to the city council to adopt prior to the end of the year. And that is something even though the fire district is the fire department here now, the city still has to adopt this. prior to the end of the year and that is something even though you know the fire district is the fire department here now the city still has to adopt the interface code you know it's still up to the local jurisdiction to adopt that code |
| 01:08:41.33 | Adam Politzer | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:09:04.11 | Unknown | Another goal we'd like to do is improve the ISO rating in Sausalito. I made a presentation on ISO back to you several months back. ISO is the Insurance Services Office, which rates all the fire departments in the country. And that rating is based upon your staffing, equipment, training, dispatch, and water systems. As I mentioned back then, Sa is a is a class 5 fire department which puts it in the top I think 30% in the country. Southern Marin is a class 3 which puts us in the top 3% of the country. We would like Sausalito to be a 3. What that does for the citizens is it reduces what you pay for for insurance. And that is our goal. We want to do that within the next year. We have a lot of work to do to make that happen in terms of making sure that all of our records, reports, training, etc. is up to par and completely even within the agencies. But that is one of our big goals for the next year. |
| 01:09:39.36 | Jeff Shurash | us. |
| 01:09:49.70 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:10:11.32 | Unknown | The other thing is public outreach. We just went through a very contentious election. A lot of information came out in that election. Not all of it totally true, unfortunately. But what we learned, though, is that A lot of people don't know who their fire department is. And we want to change that. We want to make sure everyone knows who their fire department is. The other thing is that although we won the election with 63%, that means 37% of the people did not support the Southern Wind Fire Protection District. And we want to change that. We want to focus on those 37% of people and make sure that a year from now, five years from now, 10 years from now, those people will look back and say, we have the right outcome in this. And so that's one of our goals. So we want to increase our public support. We want to make sure that people have a recognition of who their fire and EMS providers is. Make sure they know what the services we provide are. and then focus on fire prevention, home safety, vegetation management, and then follow it up with disaster preparedness. So those are our goals coming up. Just wanted to say, we are your fire department. |
| 01:11:27.07 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:11:27.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:11:27.11 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:11:27.14 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:11:27.88 | Unknown | Great. Thank you, Jim. |
| 01:11:28.34 | Unknown | Thank you, Jim. |
| 01:11:30.26 | Unknown | Thank you. Any questions? Carol? |
| 01:11:32.17 | Carolyn Revell | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:11:32.69 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:11:34.52 | Carolyn Revell | How much longer are you going to be with us? What are you trying to do with me? No, I want to keep you, and I want to make sure that your replacement is as good as you are. Thank you. I appreciate that. |
| 01:11:39.68 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 01:11:39.80 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:11:39.90 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 01:11:39.97 | Unknown | Hello. |
| 01:11:40.03 | Unknown | No. |
| 01:11:40.09 | Unknown | I want to keep it. |
| 01:11:44.86 | Unknown | Thank you. I appreciate that. I'm probably going to be here at least another two years. |
| 01:11:49.91 | Carolyn Revell | Okay, good. Thank you. |
| 01:11:51.51 | Unknown | And maybe longer depending if I'm still having fun. I really can still enjoy my job very much. |
| 01:11:52.15 | Carolyn Revell | It was excellent. |
| 01:11:58.18 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:11:58.82 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:11:58.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:11:59.07 | Unknown | Was that two or 20? |
| 01:11:59.10 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:11:59.22 | Unknown | is that? Thank you. |
| 01:12:01.11 | Unknown | All right. |
| 01:12:01.19 | Unknown | Okay, thanks. |
| 01:12:02.48 | Unknown | . |
| 01:12:04.35 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:12:05.80 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:12:05.85 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:12:05.87 | Unknown | Okay, any other questions? |
| 01:12:07.29 | Unknown | Thank you. I think you had a question on the incidents. The stuff that's in SARS-CoV-2, that doesn't include the GGNRA, is that correct? |
| 01:12:08.10 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 01:12:14.22 | Unknown | Correct. So the calls to the bridge are not? We track those separately. |
| 01:12:14.31 | Unknown | Correct. Right? |
| 01:12:20.18 | Unknown | And as far as the fire alarms, that percentage was sort of out of whack with the rest of them. Is that because of the commercial? Yeah, Sauce Video has a... |
| 01:12:27.03 | Unknown | Yeah, Saucelido has a much higher commercial area than the rest of the fire district. OK, good. That's good to know. |
| 01:12:34.90 | Unknown | Are most of those just disabled, something went wrong, the batteries run low, that kind |
| 01:12:40.75 | Unknown | Yeah, old wiring is one of the most common causes. You know, spiders crawling through smoke detectors, et cetera. |
| 01:12:44.92 | Unknown | Thank you. and |
| 01:12:46.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:12:48.31 | Unknown | Yeah. Got you. Thank you. Okay, that's great. Any other questions from the council? All right, any member of the public, thank you Jim. Any member of the public care to comment on the fire report? Great job, thank you very much. |
| 01:12:56.06 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:12:56.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:12:56.33 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:13:02.74 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:13:02.76 | Unknown | Thank you. I just wanted to say, if I could, that I think Jim is following through on kind of what he said with the fire rating. I think that will be actually well received in the community once people understand that we couldn't have re-rated ourselves as a small fire department. We need the resources of a larger fire department to become that way. And it's also, I think, the Southern Marine Board has proven that they're true to their word. They wanted to incorporate representation from Sausalito as quickly as possible and not wait for elections, their election cycle. And two out of seven is pretty close to the proportion of Sausalito as part of the entire district. And that's, so the people, including Councilmember Ford and Pfeiffer who claim we'd have no representation that that is you know proven to be a false false claim. It's also a little bit hollow to me not to bring a negative tone of this that now somebody wants to keep you as a chief but a few months ago they were insulting your competence and or Thank you. Um, facts and figures that you were representing. |
| 01:14:08.55 | Unknown | Point of order, Ms. |
| 01:14:09.78 | Unknown | So just because you don't like it doesn't mean it can't be seen. Point of order. This is my time to say whatever. |
| 01:14:10.04 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 01:14:10.07 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:14:10.10 | Carolyn Revell | Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it can't be seen. You cannot insult other council members. And Mr. Mayor, it's your job to make sure that he doesn't. I've had enough of your insults. |
| 01:14:24.13 | Unknown | That's not, that is a real place to have facts. That's it. |
| 01:14:26.81 | Unknown | All right, that's it. |
| 01:14:28.51 | Unknown | It's a replacement of facts. Stop. Statement of fact. And you can't censor what I say, by the way. There is a First Amendment in the Constitution. All right. All right. |
| 01:14:29.27 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:14:29.29 | Unknown | Exactly. |
| 01:14:32.97 | Unknown | All right. |
| 01:14:37.36 | Unknown | All right, let's move on. |
| 01:14:39.55 | Carolyn Revell | Mr. Mayor, I have one more. |
| 01:14:41.42 | Unknown | All right. Keep... I'm just going to go back. |
| 01:14:44.80 | Carolyn Revell | It's just going to go back and forth. And I'm sorry. |
| 01:14:45.42 | Unknown | before |
| 01:14:47.24 | Carolyn Revell | that Councilmember Leon decided to bring this up. Be quiet. I have the floor. |
| 01:14:50.15 | Unknown | These siders. |
| 01:14:50.98 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 01:14:54.27 | Carolyn Revell | decided to bring this up at this time. You know, it is, I'm not waving my hand in front of you, so just settle down. |
| 01:15:04.31 | Unknown | you |
| 01:15:04.36 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 01:15:04.91 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 01:15:04.93 | Carolyn Revell | OK, stop. This is not ridiculous. |
| 01:15:05.54 | Unknown | Thanks. |
| 01:15:05.99 | Unknown | So, |
| 01:15:06.87 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:15:06.89 | Unknown | Yes. Thank you. |
| 01:15:07.51 | Carolyn Revell | But I challenge you to keep personal insults out of this conversation. Back of the record. And I had not said that he was all wrong in his estimates, and I do not appreciate your allowing him to say, I don't know what I'm talking about. This stuff has to stop. It's uncivilized, and you told me you would stop it. I want to see it. |
| 01:15:14.99 | Unknown | Back to the record. |
| 01:15:34.02 | Unknown | I can't stop you from saying anything. I can't stop him from saying anything. I can say that this is ridiculous, and I can pound the gavel until I'm blue in the face. But if the two of you or any of us continue to argue with each other, it disrupts the meeting. It takes the continuity away. It destroys any opportunity that we have. So I hope all of us will refrain from doing this. |
| 01:15:54.74 | Carolyn Revell | This would not have happened had he not been insulting. It's your job to make sure he's not insulting. It's your job to call him on the spot, on the spot, and stop it. |
| 01:15:59.79 | Unknown | Not my job. It sure is. Not much. It is not my job to stop one of you from saying something. |
| 01:16:05.56 | Carolyn Revell | my job to stop Yes, it is. No, it's not. Yes, it is. After that person has been involved, you must have. You and I will have to disagree. |
| 01:16:09.24 | Unknown | It is. No, it's not. Well, Mr. Farley, you left the spot. You and I will have to disagree on that point. I'm sorry. It's Anne. |
| 01:16:16.46 | Carolyn Revell | I'm sorry, it's in our rules. |
| 01:16:19.16 | Unknown | Well, the rules don't matter, Carolyn, at this point. Rules. This is why we have our protocol, Mike. This is why we have it. |
| 01:16:22.18 | Carolyn Revell | Roll. |
| 01:16:26.62 | Unknown | This is why we have it. We're going to spend 20 minutes on this. |
| 01:16:29.22 | Unknown | You and I should have an offline discussion, but the truth is that there is freedom of speech in this country, and he can say it. I can pound the gallantine blue in the face, and he can say it. There's no way to stop you. |
| 01:16:33.05 | Unknown | We have already. |
| 01:16:39.73 | Carolyn Revell | There's no insult. Our protocol says no insults. And it's your job to stop it when it starts. |
| 01:16:42.32 | Unknown | Thank you. Good job. |
| 01:16:47.23 | Unknown | work. |
| 01:16:47.29 | Unknown | What was the inspiration? |
| 01:16:47.92 | Unknown | results. |
| 01:16:48.39 | Unknown | you |
| 01:16:48.66 | Carolyn Revell | Yeah. |
| 01:16:48.69 | Unknown | I love it. |
| 01:16:48.76 | Unknown | Recounting statements. Whoa, whoa, whoa. A protocol is nothing more than a promise by all of us to do something. If one person violates the protocol, all we can do, what can I do? |
| 01:16:48.97 | Unknown | I'm just saying how things take us. |
| 01:17:00.39 | Carolyn Revell | Wrap your gavel. |
| 01:17:01.57 | Unknown | Did I wrap my gavel? |
| 01:17:01.93 | Carolyn Revell | Yeah. |
| 01:17:02.14 | Unknown | Yeah. Should I wrap my camera? |
| 01:17:04.46 | Carolyn Revell | Only after I raised her. |
| 01:17:05.81 | Unknown | Yeah, all right. |
| 01:17:06.46 | Carolyn Revell | All right. Only after that's my point. |
| 01:17:06.97 | Unknown | What? All right. Mr. Mayor, |
| 01:17:08.59 | Unknown | Mr. Mayor, may I make a comment? |
| 01:17:10.06 | Unknown | No, I want this to stop. It's not on the agenda. We're not here to talk about Robert's Rules of Order. We have an agenda tonight to complete, and I want to move on to that agenda. We are at item 6E, which is acceptance of project work by Ray's Construction, Inc., and status update on the Sausalito Yacht Harbor Bay Street bulkhead project. |
| 01:17:27.69 | Adam Politzer | Mayor. Mr. Mayor, we moved item 4. Oh, I'm sorry, the police. Police, the police. |
| 01:17:30.78 | Unknown | Oh, I'm sorry, the police, the police, the police. Item 6D, which is 4C, which is motion to adopt a resolution approving the memorandum of understanding between the city of Sausalito and the Sausalito Police Association. |
| 01:17:43.39 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 01:17:43.62 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:17:43.66 | Adam Politzer | And your Administrative Services Director is here if there are specific questions. |
| 01:17:46.95 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 01:17:47.49 | Carolyn Revell | Yeah. |
| 01:17:47.50 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:17:47.54 | Carolyn Revell | I pulled that item, Mr. Mayor, and the only reason I pulled it is because I want to comment on it and have a vote taken. Okay. So if I may comment. Make your comment. Okay. |
| 01:17:48.03 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 01:17:48.16 | Unknown | You sold that out. |
| 01:17:48.97 | Unknown | I pulled that item, Mr. |
| 01:17:50.46 | Unknown | or something. |
| 01:17:50.74 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 01:17:50.81 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:17:56.95 | Unknown | Okay. That's your coming. I asked before Councilmember Ford makes a comment that actually the Services Director does a brief summary of what it is since you're making a public item. |
| 01:18:04.23 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:18:09.74 | Unknown | Uh, okay. Thank you. Charlie, could you give us a one-minute summation? |
| 01:18:16.26 | Unknown | . |
| 01:18:19.62 | Adam Politzer | Oh. Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of the City Council. The city, under the direction of the City Council for the past year, have been preparing for labor negotiations, and we entered into labor negotiations after conducting comprehensive studies, research, and analysis on compensation, classification, studying the different kinds of the pension system. We had pension reports. we had OPEB reports. Everything came together to develop a labor strategy. That labor strategy then manifested in a direction to staff to negotiate contracts that accomplish four types of reform. Those four types of reform are what we call labor cost reform, and they include other post-employment benefit reform, orPEB, includes pension reform, it includes health care reform, it includes wage reform. It became the centerpiece of our fiscal year 2012 through 2014 budget as the labor cost, the cost of labor reform will result in reducing our cost of labor from an excess of 70% of revenues to a forecast of 65 to 70% of revenues, which would bring the city into an ability to be sustainable as we meet the challenges of the future. The OPEB reform eliminates deferred benefit, defined benefit OPEB for current employees with three years or less service. It eliminates completely all OPEB liabilities for future employees and it allows current employees to opt out of defined benefit and opt into defined contribution to OPEB if they so choose. That should reduce our other post deployment benefit unfunded liability by half. Pension reform, the current employees will start paying a portion of the employer's share of CalPERS premiums. They are already paying 100% of the employee share, putting us far ahead of many of our neighboring cities. Future employees will be in a new pension tier. It's in fact the second lowest pension tier available to new employees, whether they're police employees or SEIU employees. And finally, there's separability clauses in the contract for if the state enacts and the neighboring city allow even more pension reform. |
| 01:18:22.91 | Unknown | City. |
| 01:18:23.43 | Jeff Shurash | you |
| 01:19:34.81 | Unknown | you |
| 01:20:01.04 | Unknown | Mmm. |
| 01:20:41.72 | Adam Politzer | Under healthcare, we capped employees' share of medical healthcare benefits of 90% of the Kaiser premium for new employees. And finally, we implemented wage reform. By lowering starting wages 10%, we added two lower steps to existing five-step salary ranges. And we increased the time an officer moves through the new seven-step program, which would allow us to keep our labor costs down. and since lowering labor costs is usually a function of lower salaries because benefits are typically a percentage of salaries this will reverberate through the labor cost system so we estimate new costs of ninety one thousand five hundred dollars from this contract and new savings of a hundred forty four just from our current employees, savings of $91,500 from this contract and new savings of $144,000 for just from our current employees, savings of $52,500 over the three-year contract. However, because we anticipate attrition of one police officer per year for the next three years, we anticipate savings per officer $50,000 per, so that would give us another $150,000 in savings for a total of $200,000, $2,500. This is substantial labor reform. It's consistent with the labor union agreement that you already approved with SEIU, and staff recommends that unanimously approve this. |
| 01:21:39.01 | Jeff Shurash | So, I think that's the only thing that I think is, |
| 01:22:03.53 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:22:03.56 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:22:05.03 | Unknown | that. |
| 01:22:05.52 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 01:22:05.78 | Unknown | Thank you, Charles. Thank you. Any questions? |
| 01:22:07.14 | Unknown | Any questions? Yeah, just one question. Try just to, is there any major differences between package here and the SEI. |
| 01:22:18.26 | Unknown | Okay, any other questions? All right, seeing none, any member of the public care to comment on this subject? Seeing none, I'll bring it back up here. I'm not. Government before? |
| 01:22:28.81 | Carolyn Revell | Okay. For the record, I would like to state the following. I consider the OPEB savings significant and in the long term as well. I think it's wise and fair to the employees. The pension reform though is insignificant and unsustainable. It's unfair to our employees, our residents, and the city. It does nothing for the long term. or, Extremely little. For new employees, we need to establish a hybrid system, and this is for new employees. a defined contribution um, system for employees to share the risk if the pension system is to become sustainable in the long run. The changes I'm recommending will not affect current employees and have nothing to do with the performance of the current police department, which is excellent. Sausalito's pension liability loomed at $40 million a couple years ago. The city refuses to get an updated number or look into our financial future, even though the city purchased a five-year financial planning software package. Council in my opinion and the city manager are kicking the can down the road and tying the next council's hands for three years. The city simply can't afford to pay 80 and 90% of salary as pension. No amount of talking and spinning can change this fact. |
| 01:24:11.31 | Unknown | I'd like to call Charlie back up here for a minute. Charlie, would you please come up? In the previous council meeting, a previous council meeting, A comment was made from this dais by a certain council member It was a $40 million, or I think it was $45 million, Unfunded pension liabilities. As a result of that, I ask you to go back and to look at the actual numbers that were presented to us by both CalPERS and Bartels. And would you state again what the actual pension liability, unfunded liability, is in two categories for Sausage Hill? |
| 01:24:45.31 | Adam Politzer | The unfunded liability for miscellaneous police safety and fire safety, when we had fire safety, totaled $4.5 million, not $40 million. Thank you. Then there was another $4.5 million in side funds. $1.4 million with fire annexation of those side funds will be paid off. $415,000 in the side funds will be paid off as of today and that would only remain $2.5 million in side funds which are amortized, police side funds which are amortized in our current pension payments. So we've substantially reduced our overall |
| 01:25:25.71 | Unknown | And the side fund liability grew out of CalPERS' reorganization of a series of pools into which we were placed. That's correct. It was not a liability. We had no choice in that. All right. Thank you very much. |
| 01:25:32.46 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:25:38.33 | Carolyn Revell | The surveyor, are you trying to correct what I just said? I am absolutely trying to correct the record. But may I make a statement because I was misquoted by you? |
| 01:25:40.81 | Unknown | I am absolutely trying to correct the record. |
| 01:25:46.72 | Carolyn Revell | You just said, |
| 01:25:47.28 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:25:47.40 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 01:25:47.77 | Unknown | You just said $40 million. |
| 01:25:48.43 | Carolyn Revell | I said 40 million liability, which is, I did not say unfunded liability, I said 40 million liability. And this was in 2008. It was in closed session, actually. |
| 01:25:51.72 | Unknown | Which is... Not correct. |
| 01:25:53.03 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 01:25:57.06 | Unknown | All right. |
| 01:25:58.41 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:26:05.70 | Carolyn Revell | I was told this and that's how much we would have to pay to get out of CalPERS. That is the liability the city had back in 2008. |
| 01:26:10.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:26:10.82 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:26:10.84 | Unknown | That is a liability. Absolutely incorrect. If you want to believe that, you're welcome to believe it. Thank you. |
| 01:26:18.87 | Carolyn Revell | It's beautiful. |
| 01:26:19.34 | Unknown | That's correct. |
| 01:26:20.52 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:26:20.57 | Carolyn Revell | Yes, yes. |
| 01:26:20.59 | Unknown | And I stand by it. |
| 01:26:21.89 | Unknown | OK. |
| 01:26:22.36 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:26:22.95 | Unknown | I'm not sure. |
| 01:26:23.03 | Unknown | you |
| 01:26:23.32 | Unknown | Yes, true. |
| 01:26:23.32 | Unknown | Mr. Mayor, I would like to make a comment. |
| 01:26:23.71 | Unknown | . Exactly. |
| 01:26:24.65 | Unknown | Come. |
| 01:26:24.98 | Unknown | point. Thank you. |
| 01:26:26.23 | Unknown | Thank you, Charlie. You want to make a comment? Yes. Are we in comments? |
| 01:26:28.44 | Unknown | Yes. . |
| 01:26:31.00 | Unknown | So just for the record, I want to say that there are some things about this agreement I like. I like the severability clause if the feds impose health care reform. I like the changes to OPEB. I like the severability clause if state imposes pension reform. But the fact that we are not enacting a defined contribution for new employees is a missed opportunity. It is extending and unsustainable pension system and with, I believe, dire repercussions down the road. in terms of our finances. The fact is that these costs that we're hearing from CalPERS are a moving target. They're based on what I, in my opinion, are unrealistic estimates using a discount rate that is in my mind just unbelievable. And so just for the record, I wanted to state my opposition to this. I Thank you. |
| 01:27:47.38 | Unknown | All right, anybody else want to say anything? It's OK to make up things. It's an interesting philosophy of being. But it's not OK for anyone to correct it when you make up things. Or it's OK to make statements. And I'm not referencing any of them particularly. |
| 01:27:53.06 | Unknown | Yes. is, |
| 01:28:04.40 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:28:04.54 | Carolyn Revell | Excuse me, point of order, making up things. |
| 01:28:06.23 | Unknown | Thank you. Bye. |
| 01:28:06.36 | Unknown | There is. He's making a comment. He can make that comment. He's making a comment. He can make that comment. |
| 01:28:08.94 | Carolyn Revell | For sure. he's making a comment that i'm missing anything i find that terribly insult |
| 01:28:12.00 | Unknown | But I'm mixing up things. We agree. I agree with him. |
| 01:28:16.74 | Carolyn Revell | I'm sure you do. That's why you're not correcting the insult. That's why you're not stopping. I have a piece of paper. |
| 01:28:17.47 | Unknown | That's why you're not correct. That's why you're not stopping. I have a piece of paper. |
| 01:28:24.30 | Carolyn Revell | I had a piece of paper. |
| 01:28:24.35 | Unknown | That's it. That's it. You have one minute to say what you want to say. Nobody's going to interrupt you. Say what you want to say. I want to ask you once again. Excuse me? |
| 01:28:33.90 | Unknown | I'm sorry. Vice Mayor Leo. |
| 01:28:36.04 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:28:36.16 | Unknown | the floor. |
| 01:28:36.75 | Unknown | OK, he can say what he can say, and you sit and listen to him. |
| 01:28:37.29 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:28:37.38 | Unknown | you |
| 01:28:41.31 | Carolyn Revell | Absolutely. |
| 01:28:42.41 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 01:28:43.18 | Carolyn Revell | except set and states |
| 01:28:43.93 | Unknown | Sit and sit into it. |
| 01:28:47.15 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 01:28:47.22 | Unknown | I call for a break. I second. Well, I accept you to leave the dice if you care to leave the dice. We're not breaking. |
| 01:28:47.38 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 01:28:47.40 | Carolyn Revell | i can't believe and so i can |
| 01:28:53.32 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. When someone calls for a break, there's a protocol, you have to break. |
| 01:28:56.63 | Unknown | No. Sorry. We'll hold a vote. All in favor of a break, say, |
| 01:29:01.74 | Carolyn Revell | You have to have four votes to disapprove it. |
| 01:29:02.05 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:29:02.18 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:29:04.38 | Unknown | What's the protocol for a break in the whatever the thing? |
| 01:29:12.31 | Carolyn Revell | I know. |
| 01:29:13.15 | Unknown | But you're welcome to stay and participate, or you may leave. It's up to you. |
| 01:29:19.60 | Carolyn Revell | I'm taking a break. And we have that. We are going forward. We have that right. We have that right. We have four votes. You need four votes, Mr. Mayor. No, I need four votes to break up a dialogue. Point of order. |
| 01:29:20.83 | Jan Johnson | And we have them. |
| 01:29:23.33 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:29:23.35 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:29:23.36 | Unknown | We are going forward with the meeting. I need four votes to break up a dialogue. Point of order. Excuse me. I'm in charge of the meeting. If you leave the dais during a discussion, |
| 01:29:31.75 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:29:31.80 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 01:29:31.85 | Unknown | Point of order. |
| 01:29:32.95 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 01:29:33.20 | Unknown | Point of order. Point of order. |
| 01:29:36.19 | Carolyn Revell | Yes. |
| 01:29:40.05 | Unknown | All we need is a simple majority. |
| 01:29:40.42 | Unknown | That's not a great one. |
| 01:29:42.33 | Carolyn Revell | No, if someone says I'm calling a vote, |
| 01:29:46.18 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:29:46.35 | Carolyn Revell | I'm calling a break. You do not have the right. You're welcome. Our city attorney, would you please look it up? |
| 01:29:46.40 | Unknown | . |
| 01:29:46.43 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:29:46.56 | Unknown | All right. |
| 01:29:51.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:29:51.12 | Unknown | I understand. |
| 01:29:51.20 | Unknown | you |
| 01:29:51.48 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:29:55.26 | Carolyn Revell | She already is. |
| 01:29:55.29 | Unknown | She already is, if you sit down and relax for a second. |
| 01:29:57.79 | Unknown | Exactly. Thank you. There's no motion to take a break in the Robert's Rule of Law. |
| 01:30:02.46 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 01:30:02.48 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:30:02.49 | Unknown | Close the vote. |
| 01:30:03.07 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 01:30:03.46 | Unknown | him. All right. We're going to take a vote on the POA. It's on the table. |
| 01:30:10.68 | Unknown | We'll just wait so it's valid though. Let's make sure it's okay. We don't have to. |
| 01:30:12.69 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:30:22.02 | Unknown | Wow, a simple meeting can turn into... |
| 01:30:25.04 | Carolyn Revell | Okay, Mr. Mayor, I have the piece of the piece of paper that was handed out at the meeting that talked about Sausalito's liability. It says if the city were to leave CalPERS. |
| 01:30:36.60 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:30:37.65 | Unknown | Excuse me, it's out of order. You're out of order. |
| 01:30:39.03 | Mary Wagner | moment. |
| 01:30:39.38 | Carolyn Revell | Just... |
| 01:30:42.66 | Mary Wagner | My only question, Mr. Mayor, is there's a reference to closed session information, and if there was a reference made to information coming out of closed session, If it's information that was shared in closed session, it's not to be released without a vote of the council. If it was open session information, it's a different discussion. Right. |
| 01:30:51.25 | Jeff Shurash | I'm sorry. |
| 01:30:57.78 | Carolyn Revell | Right. Is this just public information? Well, we don't know that. We don't know that. |
| 01:31:00.36 | Mary Wagner | We don't know that. We don't know that. I apologize. I've been a call to the Councilperson before. There was a reference made to closed session information. I'm just trying to clarify that if it is closed session, it can't be released. I understand what you're saying. You can submit the information. |
| 01:31:08.54 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 01:31:08.58 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:31:08.59 | Carolyn Revell | Yeah. |
| 01:31:08.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:31:08.69 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:31:10.65 | Unknown | I understand what you're saying. You can submit the information to the city attorney and have a rule on that. All right. Mary. Sorry. |
| 01:31:18.23 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 01:31:18.25 | Unknown | We're... |
| 01:31:18.79 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 01:31:18.80 | Unknown | you |
| 01:31:18.97 | Carolyn Revell | Bye. |
| 01:31:19.19 | Unknown | you Thank you. |
| 01:31:19.90 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 01:31:19.92 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:31:20.03 | Carolyn Revell | I'm sure. |
| 01:31:20.32 | Mary Wagner | Hold on one second. |
| 01:31:20.34 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 01:31:20.36 | Unknown | Hold on. |
| 01:31:20.66 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 01:31:22.08 | Unknown | figure. |
| 01:31:22.53 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 01:31:22.58 | Carolyn Revell | and I'm going to be here. I think it's important to know |
| 01:31:23.81 | Unknown | All right. I call the question. I do have a motion to approve the POA. |
| 01:31:23.85 | Unknown | All right. |
| 01:31:28.49 | Unknown | Well, we got |
| 01:31:29.82 | Unknown | Well, we got five people here. |
| 01:31:30.70 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:31:30.94 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 01:31:30.95 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:31:32.00 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:31:32.08 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 01:31:32.12 | Unknown | . |
| 01:31:33.27 | Mary Wagner | There are motions to adjourn, motions to recess. I apologize. I don't see the motion to take a break. I can go pull the actual paper copy if you would like me to, or if one of the council people would like to point me to it, I'd be happy to. |
| 01:31:46.02 | Carolyn Revell | That resource is considered a break. THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:31:48.67 | Unknown | Mr. |
| 01:31:49.03 | Carolyn Revell | Mayor, may I comment? |
| 01:31:50.17 | Unknown | What does a motion to recess require? Vote-wise. |
| 01:31:54.26 | Mary Wagner | Majority vote. Simple majority vote. |
| 01:31:56.15 | Carolyn Revell | Okay. No, you have to call the very... |
| 01:31:58.63 | Mary Wagner | A motion to recess. This motion, if passed, requires the body to immediately take a recess. Normally, the chair determines the length of the recess, which may range from a few minutes to an hour. It requires a simple majority vote. |
| 01:32:10.19 | Unknown | All right, do you want to hold such a vote? |
| 01:32:10.73 | Carolyn Revell | you Well, I'm sure we'll lose, so let's proceed. All right. |
| 01:32:14.09 | Unknown | Yeah. All right. Do I have a motion on the approval of item 4C turned into 6D, which is to adopt a resolution approving memorandum of understanding between the city of Sausalito and the Sausalito Police Association? |
| 01:32:31.43 | Unknown | So moved. |
| 01:32:32.26 | Adam Politzer | So, |
| 01:32:32.85 | Unknown | OK, I have a motion and a second. Debbie, would you call the roll? |
| 01:32:38.89 | Unknown | number five. Council member Ford? No. Council member Weiner? |
| 01:32:42.74 | Unknown | No. Yes. |
| 01:32:45.96 | Unknown | Vice Mayor Leon. Ma'am Kelly. |
| 01:32:48.85 | Unknown | Yes. We'll move on to item 6E, which was formerly 6D, acceptance of the project work by Ray's Construction, Inc., and status update on the Susilo Yacht Harbor Bay Street bulkhead project. Jonathan Goldman. |
| 01:33:02.96 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of the council, and staff, and the folks in the audience. Thank you. I'm sure you're all glued to your screens. I have two items here this evening that are both kind of hybrids. They represent requests for council action initially, and then secondly are intended to provide some status update on where the capital projects involved are and what we can expect in the future. The first part of this item before you this evening, which I don't have detailed slides for, is really in the staff report. Summarizing the status of how the city and our partners in this project successfully have constructed what I regard as an extremely significant capital improvement, replacement of a bulkhead and a boardwalk that the city had recognized as needed for some time. We were fortunate enough to be able to develop a funding plan and detailed designs for it and also fortunate enough to have awarded a contract to a contractor, Reyes Construction out of Pomona, California, who in my judgment did an excellent job of not only constructing what was designed and doing so on time and under budget, but also in helping constructively identify opportunities for the city to save money and helping us to manage and minimize the cost of unanticipated changes that we simply had to make. |
| 01:33:42.53 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:33:42.55 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:34:23.45 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:34:23.57 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:34:23.59 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:34:57.99 | Jeff Shurash | for |
| 01:35:06.28 | Jeff Shurash | Crosco. |
| 01:35:12.51 | Jonathon Goldman | The work for which Reyes Construction was awarded the contract is either complete now or has been deleted from the contract with the mutual consent of the City of Sausalito Yacht Harbor and Reyes Construction. I provided a detailed accounting of the actual charges and approved change orders in the packet. Inasmuch as Reyes Construction has diligently and faithfully completed its work based on approvals from the City and Sauceroyahar have been paid for all but its remaining retention amount. The City has requested certain affidavits as provided for in our standard contract conditions that address potential liens, payment of debts, and things of that nature. We've also requested an affidavit of payment of required prevailing wages. And under the terms of the contract, the final payment of retained amounts is not due and payable until the expiration of 35 days after the city files its notice of completion with the county reporter. In order for us to file a notice of completion, the city council is obligated to accept the project and then direct them that that notice be filed. |
| 01:35:35.76 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:35:35.98 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:35:36.06 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:35:36.13 | Jeff Shurash | to do. |
| 01:36:25.69 | Unknown | in that direction. |
| 01:36:30.20 | Jonathon Goldman | Following the filing of the notice, the maintenance bond is provided to the city in exchange for the performance and payment bonds that were also required. So at this time, staff is respectfully requesting that council accept Reyes Construction's work and thank them for their good service to the people of Sausalito. and I have prepared a financial status spreadsheet is attached. A resolution accepting Sausalito-Yon Harbor Bay's pre-project by Reyes Construction and authorizing issuance of notice of completion is provided as is a draft. In the PowerPoint presentation that I prepared with respect to status, I'll talk a little bit more about Bay Conservation and Development Commission and some of the things that still have to be done before the project itself is complete. But at this time, to focus on the action, I'm available to answer questions and defer to the Mayor as to whether you want me to give the whole presentation at this point. No. |
| 01:37:00.19 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:37:35.30 | Unknown | No, not unless somebody requests it. Any questions? Mr. Goldman, any questions? All right, seeing none, thank you. Any member of the public? Care to comment on? this project. All right, seeing that, we'll bring it back up here. Anybody need to say anything about it? I just have one question. When are they going to open the walkway out to the Belvedere? |
| 01:38:05.73 | Jonathon Goldman | The short answer to that is that we are still waiting for handrails, chair guides, and other accessibility pieces. There's kind of a longer story as to why we're still waiting for them. They were removed from Reyes' contract, and the primary reason for that is that what was was designed and what was permitted was found not to be compliant with the health. contract and the primary reason for that is that what was designed and what was permitted was found not to be compliant with the California building so we've had to do some redesign work. The contractor who is furnishing and installing the handrails purchase orders already been issued and they will be on site tomorrow with the intent to finalize the details of that. There are some other of those kinds of pieces that we're actually going to have to do later. Sausalito Yacht Harbor, in addition to all the rest of us, I mean, I've gone out there and walked and looked at things and it's wonderful. Sausalito Yacht Harbor is very interested in making sure that they can get back to generating revenue with their slips. So there's a lot of interest in getting things finished and we're doing everything we can to do that as soon as possible. |
| 01:38:27.78 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:38:36.90 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:38:37.05 | Jeff Shurash | We've got. |
| 01:38:44.00 | Jeff Shurash | Yeah. |
| 01:39:14.12 | Unknown | Right. |
| 01:39:16.20 | Jeff Shurash | I love it. |
| 01:39:16.42 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:39:16.48 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:39:16.50 | Unknown | I appreciate it. |
| 01:39:17.28 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:39:21.88 | Unknown | 30 days, 60 days, 90 days. |
| 01:39:23.86 | Jonathon Goldman | We will have the handrails that have already been furnished will be installed probably within two weeks. That will allow a number of things to open. We do have fire protection, so we're in a position to do that immediately. There are some other flights of stairs and ramps and some rearrangements of things that are going to have to happen. We've told the Conservation and Development Commission that we expected them to happen within the next six weeks before the end of September, but there are details. |
| 01:39:52.28 | Unknown | you |
| 01:39:52.33 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:39:52.39 | Unknown | them. |
| 01:39:52.97 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:39:58.42 | Unknown | Thank you. Fair enough. All right. Motion, please. I have a motion. |
| 01:40:07.14 | Unknown | I would stay on this one. Thank you. |
| 01:40:10.53 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:40:10.65 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:40:10.70 | Unknown | I move to approve the acceptance of project work by Ray's Constructions, incorporated in status, let's see, for the |
| 01:40:10.87 | Unknown | Okay. Thank you. |
| 01:40:21.54 | Unknown | Did I say that right? Saucyito Yard Harbor. For the Saucyito Yard Harbor Street bulkhead project. |
| 01:40:22.16 | Unknown | Social leader, you got her. Street. right second thank you Debbie call the room |
| 01:40:28.94 | Unknown | Thank you. Second |
| 01:40:34.77 | Unknown | Council member Pfeiffer? Yes. Council member Ford? |
| 01:40:35.97 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 01:40:37.23 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:40:37.25 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:40:37.27 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:40:37.28 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 01:40:37.82 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:40:38.41 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 01:40:39.32 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 01:40:40.94 | Unknown | I'm going to go to the ice cream. |
| 01:40:41.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:40:41.99 | Unknown | thing. |
| 01:40:45.77 | Unknown | I'm going to go. |
| 01:40:46.34 | Unknown | Yes. All right. Thank you, Jonathan. You're going to stay up there, I assume, for the next item, which is item 6F, which to approve the amendment number 6 to the Consultant Services Agreement with West Yost Associates for Resistment Design Services for Priority 1B, Spinnaker Anchor, Sewer Rehabilitation Project, and other sewer repair projects. |
| 01:40:49.90 | Unknown | up there, actually. |
| 01:40:50.56 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:40:53.82 | Unknown | 6F. |
| 01:41:08.38 | Jonathon Goldman | I'm happy to do that, Mr. Mayor. I did want to show you some slides, but I'll defer to you. They're just a status update on this project, some photographs, some of the, so it's okay, I'll just fly through this. |
| 01:41:24.56 | Unknown | fly through fast. Thank you. |
| 01:41:29.15 | Jonathon Goldman | you have to fly but when the point was originally constructed here in February in 1960 the slide that you saw with the last |
| 01:41:29.21 | Unknown | You don't have to. |
| 01:41:29.76 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:41:29.86 | Unknown | Just some reminders. |
| 01:41:31.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:41:32.61 | Unknown | you |
| 01:41:34.42 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:41:44.01 | Jonathon Goldman | Capital Projects Update imagery from Google Earth in June 2011, where the red crane that Council Member Weiner used to give regular complaints that he relayed to me was located. And then the current Google Earth image, which is May 2011. I'm a hooping crane. Which actually, the bulkhead is still in construction, but you have the opportunity from satellite image to see the new boardwalk. |
| 01:41:57.02 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:41:57.03 | Unknown | . |
| 01:41:57.54 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:42:01.35 | Unknown | I meant a hooping crane. |
| 01:42:15.98 | Jonathon Goldman | These are some photographs taken during the job walk for Punch List. They're probably hard to see from where you're seated, but in general, really wonderful, especially when compared with what was there and a project that I think that will have a very long life, as well as kind of conveying the sensibilities of South City on Harbor and the maritime approach to things with wooden railings and things like that. Reyes construction, all work is concluded, job well done. Accessibility compliance, handrails, wheel guides andards are scheduled for installation in mid-August. Bay Conservation Development Commission liked the project so much they requested additional access to the boardwalk and reorientation of something. Uh-oh. What would have happened if they didn't like it? |
| 01:42:19.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:42:24.47 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:42:24.49 | Unknown | you |
| 01:42:24.81 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:43:08.01 | Unknown | Uh-oh. . Thank you. Thank you. didn't like it. Yeah. I didn't like it to work. I didn't like it to work. It's just |
| 01:43:11.38 | Jonathon Goldman | Yeah. I'll strive for that. In addition, and this isn't necessarily wonderful either, they requested reconstruction of the existing overlook at Spinnaker to match the new boardwalk. Oh, really? Yes. Oh, come on. And there are a variety of reasons for that. Yeah, but tell me about that. |
| 01:43:16.24 | Unknown | I'll strive for that. |
| 01:43:30.28 | Unknown | Oh, really? |
| 01:43:35.31 | Unknown | of the Tell them to give us the money and we'll do it. |
| 01:43:37.27 | Jonathon Goldman | It's possible that we have yet to have a conversation about whether they have the authority to require it. In addition, that overlook is a separate permit that's not a permit that was granted to Spinnaker. So it has potential financial implications for Spinnaker and their current operations. So we staff and folks at the Spinnaker and Bay Conservation and Development Commission |
| 01:43:45.71 | Unknown | Right. |
| 01:43:53.28 | Jim | connected around. |
| 01:43:59.14 | Jim | Thank you. |
| 01:43:59.16 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:44:11.95 | Unknown | Before you move off this, so this is existing construction, right? There wasn't anything done to this overlooked piece, right? |
| 01:44:11.97 | Jonathon Goldman | for you. |
| 01:44:16.64 | Jonathon Goldman | Right? |
| 01:44:20.45 | Jonathon Goldman | That's correct. It was closed for a long period of time. During construction. Yes. Right. |
| 01:44:25.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:44:25.13 | Unknown | During construction. Yes. Right. It's still closed, isn't it? |
| 01:44:28.54 | Jonathon Goldman | No. Well, it may be because we don't have appropriate handrails and guardrails for people to get help. |
| 01:44:32.65 | Unknown | You don't have access. Yeah, you don't have access. The public does not have access to that bell meter. |
| 01:44:38.46 | Jonathon Goldman | But the BCBC wants the public to have access as soon as possible. |
| 01:44:41.58 | Unknown | Right, right. You'll fix that. But as far as asking you to do more construction on that part, I mean, why are we even considering this since we don't have the money to do it? |
| 01:44:46.96 | Jonathon Goldman | Yeah. |
| 01:44:47.30 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:44:51.42 | Unknown | They can't make you go and do new construction. They obviously had to approve this at some point in time when it was done. So why are we even opening the door for them to say, here, go spend some more money? The best answer I can offer you is we didn't open the door. They opened the door. But they can't open the door if you don't have a project. It's new construction that they can make you. |
| 01:45:01.88 | Jonathon Goldman | right. They open the door. so you could I hear you and not only hear you and acknowledge that as a position, but there are some other details that, in my judgment, don't warrant us slamming the door. We and BCDC and Spinnaker have some work to do to try to resolve this issue. |
| 01:45:09.76 | Unknown | I hear you and not only hear you and |
| 01:45:14.06 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:45:33.54 | Unknown | I bet Jim they're going to come back and say, I just sunk money into this. I don't want to pay you as much rent for this. So it's just a circle that's going to come back here and look for money to pay for that. If it's ADA compliance, that's one thing. If it's look and feel. |
| 01:45:35.77 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 01:45:35.97 | Jeff Shurash | So, |
| 01:45:45.77 | Unknown | Let me ask you to say those comments. I'm as frustrated as you are. Okay, go ahead. That is the status update. Okay. All right. Any questions about this? None. Okay. All right. Seeing none, any member of the public care to comment on this horrific BCDC decision? I'm sorry. |
| 01:45:48.12 | Unknown | Oh. Yeah. |
| 01:45:49.32 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:45:49.42 | Jonathon Goldman | Yeah. |
| 01:45:49.44 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:45:49.57 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 01:45:49.67 | Unknown | you That is. |
| 01:45:53.03 | Jonathon Goldman | That's the status update. |
| 01:46:04.30 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:46:08.03 | Unknown | I'm not sure. |
| 01:46:08.40 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:46:08.44 | Unknown | All right. See you then. |
| 01:46:08.52 | Unknown | All right, see you then. Let's go. |
| 01:46:10.43 | Unknown | Yeah, my one comment is it's unfortunate, and correct me if I'm wrong, that these births that public money funded half of, those are the proposed births that they just leased to Sun, whatever the heck, that Sun sale, which is, you know, it's a slap in the face, I think, to the people of Sausalito to turn around, take public money, |
| 01:46:10.46 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:46:32.67 | Unknown | put in it to build dock space that was designed to rent to a corporate entity that flies in the face of local business. And That's the character of who we're dealing with here, and that is not appropriate. And that's why I objected this whole project to begin with. It's a misuse of public funds, not by the city, but by the occupants who are using public lands. |
| 01:46:57.24 | Unknown | Any other comments on this? I disagree with that whole |
| 01:47:02.06 | Carolyn Revell | statement you think that's a good purpose is that it's not it's not on the agenda and I think it needs to go before the Planning Commission before the Council comments on it |
| 01:47:02.08 | Unknown | statement, but it's |
| 01:47:15.97 | Unknown | Okay. Any comments about the project itself? Okay. I would just say that I hope you win with BCDC because the public does not have access to that now and the more that they demand and we don't have the funds to do it, the more it's going to sit there with a fence around it and nobody gets to use it and that seems to me to be a tragedy. So I would personally to use every source I have to get BCDC to fold on this issue. But we can talk about that offline. Well, just to... |
| 01:47:47.90 | Jonathon Goldman | Well, just as a point of clarification, only on that topic, the overlook will be open as soon as we get handrails on the RAM. BCDC has not said, you may not reopen the overlook. |
| 01:47:50.73 | Unknown | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 01:47:56.79 | Unknown | Okay. Okay. |
| 01:48:02.70 | Unknown | All right. Okay. So then there's just an argument about whether we have graded or not. |
| 01:48:02.90 | Jonathon Goldman | All right. Thank you. I'm not sure. |
| 01:48:07.17 | Unknown | The public has use of it while that argument is going on. OK. All right. Fair enough. |
| 01:48:09.16 | Jonathon Goldman | argument is going Thank you. Thank you. All right. |
| 01:48:12.13 | Unknown | All right. Do we need to take action here? |
| 01:48:13.97 | Jonathon Goldman | You already did, Mr. Mayor. Thank you very much. All right. Great. Thank you. If you have permission, we can go to the next item, which is Amendment 6, to the Consultant Service Agreement with West Yost Associates for General Design Services. |
| 01:48:16.30 | Unknown | All right. Great. Thank you. Yes. |
| 01:48:22.04 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 01:48:26.09 | Adam Politzer | Right. Right. Thank you. |
| 01:48:35.98 | Unknown | you |
| 01:48:36.02 | Unknown | We will. Yeah. Thank you. |
| 01:48:38.02 | Jonathon Goldman | This too is kind of a schizophrenic matter for which I apologize. I apologize. In any event. Accepted. I'm not sure what you're apologizing for, but we'll take it in. We'll take it in. |
| 01:48:38.03 | Unknown | This too is perfect. |
| 01:48:39.42 | Unknown | Thank you. . |
| 01:48:49.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:48:50.28 | Unknown | Accepted. I'm not sure what your ball does in court, but we'll take it in. We'll take it in. It sounds. It sounds. |
| 01:48:57.34 | Jonathon Goldman | Let's see, there's a lot of history in the staff report. The short version of what staff is requesting that Council do this evening is to |
| 01:49:00.04 | Unknown | A lot of his |
| 01:49:14.30 | Jonathon Goldman | We approved an amendment to West Geo's contract that allows them to update the plans and specifications for the Spinnaker Anchor Project. As you may recall, that's a project that was actually designed a really long time ago and approved and in fact advertised for bids. It's a project that had to be funded because of the magnitude of the project. It has to be funded under the Clean Water State Revolving Loan Fund Program. We ran into some issues in making sure that all of our documentation was tight with respect to that program and the state ran into some issues helping us get into the program. We are in the program at this point with respect to that project. However, during the course of our making sure that our documentation was straight, we discovered that we had not dotted all the I's and crossed all the T's in the bidding process. We had no issue with any of our bidders. We had no bidders objecting to anything in the process, but we weren't in a position to tell the state what they needed to have in terms of certifications for them to approve the award of the contract. So rather than run away, which I considered, we've taken advantage of the knowledge that we've gained in the process and want to update the plans, take advantage of the changes in our general conditions and things like that. In order to do that, West Yost is entitled to additional budget. We solicited a proposal, they provided it. like that. In order to do that, West Yost is entitled to additional budget. Additional budget, we solicited a proposal. They provided it. And that's one of the two items in the contract amendment that I'm asking you to authorize this evening. The second is independent of the state revolving fund, |
| 01:50:28.61 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. do. |
| 01:50:29.05 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:50:29.10 | Jeff Shurash | Yeah. |
| 01:51:14.85 | Jonathon Goldman | during our day-to-day operations of the wastewater enterprise, our maintenance and inspection activities and things like that, we identify pipeline segments and pieces of the wastewater collection system that really need to be replaced. And they're small enough so that, you know, we have the capability to fund them without having to borrow money from the state revolving fund. And the structure of our fees in the Waste of Honor Enterprise gives us funding for pay-as-you-go projects. Some of those are, they may be small, but they're not simple enough that they can be done as simple spot repairs. They're not simple enough that we can do them with our own forces know just call three contractors and say I need you to do this and give me a good price that being the case we Pat Glosco our sanitary services and coordinator teach out our city engineer and I work with the maintenance division and have identified several projects that we think are high priorities. We solicited a proposal for designing those projects from West Yost. The details of those projects are here, and we are seeking your approval to authorize a budget to have West Yost prepare the documents for those projects. |
| 01:52:16.87 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:52:41.57 | Jonathon Goldman | So this contract amendment bundled into one package would be amendment number six. The two kind of tasks that are being amended total amounts of $40,055 for the Spinnaker Anchor Project Design Services and $64,196 for the smaller projects. |
| 01:52:43.55 | Jeff Shurash | of... |
| 01:53:06.63 | Jeff Shurash | small art projects. |
| 01:53:10.72 | Jonathon Goldman | And there are adequate funds available in the Sewer Capital Projects Fund in the approved budget to enter into that contract. And in addition, leaving us funds that at this point we regard as adequate to deliver the projects that we can this fiscal year. |
| 01:53:18.97 | Jeff Shurash | And |
| 01:53:29.77 | Jonathon Goldman | And I want to mention that the total contract amount, taking into account all of the prior, the original contract with West Yost, all of the amendments that have been authorized previously, the total not to exceed contract amount for West Yost taking these proposed tasks into account is $652,505. |
| 01:53:57.66 | Unknown | Okay. Any questions from Jonathan? |
| 01:54:02.14 | Unknown | Yeah, quick question. Jonathan, so this amendment, which is the Sixth Amendment? Correct. Is for just so in amendments for one through five have already been approved? Yes. And so the amount for this additional amount to that contract is $104,000, is that correct? Correct. Okay. All right, so that answered one question. And the other one is just on the 3rd and 4th Street segments that you're the smaller spot projects? Yes. And, you know, I know this is... |
| 01:54:02.69 | Unknown | Johnson. Thank you. So this... |
| 01:54:09.24 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:54:09.27 | Adam Politzer | I'm sorry. |
| 01:54:09.51 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:54:24.07 | Unknown | Right. |
| 01:54:39.55 | Unknown | Maybe wishful thinking, but is this going to involve repaving the street or just the trench that is dug for the actual sewer pipe replacement? |
| 01:54:51.88 | Jonathon Goldman | Um, I can't remember where those were. |
| 01:54:56.08 | Unknown | I mean, I'm sure it's not in that number, the 104, but I mean, would |
| 01:54:59.46 | Jonathon Goldman | it. I understand the question. The design is what the 104 buys. The construction cost for the sewer would come out of the design process and we need to factor those costs into our capital schedule for the sewer. What we continually try to do and what I am not at at liberty off the top of my head to remember is whether those street segments are in the streets priorities that Tadichok provided preliminarily to the council in the past. Ideally, let's put it this way, at least we all know we haven't already made those, and I'm now asking you for permission to design something that would tear them up. But I'd have to get back to you on where they are in the priorities. We also recognize even in setting those priorities and expending those funds that if we are going to do a project like this that involves pretty significant disturbance, that it's an opportunity to pay it full with or reconstruct full with that, in the long run, saves money. It's far better to have one contract and do everything than it is to do this, try to do a long-term patch, and then come back even five or 10 years later and reconstruct this. |
| 01:54:59.91 | Unknown | I understand the question. |
| 01:55:29.02 | Unknown | is |
| 01:55:29.38 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:55:29.43 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:55:29.53 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:55:29.58 | Unknown | there's a lot of people. |
| 01:55:29.66 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:55:29.87 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:55:39.37 | Unknown | I do. |
| 01:55:39.98 | Jeff Shurash | Really? |
| 01:55:48.75 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:55:48.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:55:48.87 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:55:49.70 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:55:52.60 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:56:01.71 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:56:26.70 | Unknown | Yeah, my point in asking is I think you're right, but I agree with what you're saying. I don't think there's money. These aren't, I think, on the priority list, even though they have some failings in them. But my thought was there are folks who live on those streets who have been trying to, if we're going to dig trenches, And if they want to pony up the money, and it's always, it worked on Third Street. God bless your soul for paying for most of it, one of my neighbors. If there are If people want to try and one last ditch effort while you're digging to underground their nonsense, Thank you. Now's the time before we obviously got some time, given that it's just design work, to even think about it, but put the onus on them, let them raise the money, and all the things you did on Third Street. Todd did an excellent job of that, and sort of pushing all that responsibility off on the private citizens who wanted to do that and not leave the city in the... on the hook. You know, at least it gives them a chance to run around and try and do it since they've been trying to do it for 15, 20 years. I know Charlotte Estrangelo would love to have one last crack at it since she's been trying to do it for at least that, at least as long as I've lived on that street. So, you know, can't be worth, it's worth a phone call to them and saying, hey, if you want to raise the money to underground your stuff and we could somehow co-exist and |
| 01:57:30.35 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:57:30.37 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 01:57:30.51 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:57:30.59 | Jeff Shurash | One last crack at it. |
| 01:57:35.89 | Unknown | That's true. |
| 01:57:47.45 | Jonathon Goldman | I haven't thought of that, and I completely agree. |
| 01:57:50.42 | Unknown | It may not work because it's complicated and we've seen the problems in other districts here where it didn't work, but it worked on Third Street, but it didn't work up here on Santa Rosa or whatever it was. |
| 01:58:01.25 | Unknown | Okay, any other questions, Jonathan? I just have a couple that are tangentially related. How is the Heath Way project going and how does that have any bearing on what's happening here? |
| 01:58:12.56 | Adam Politzer | Mr. Mayor, can I interject because you have a presentation here and so we don't repeat what we just did where we took motions and approved the presentation. Can you run through this quickly for us? |
| 01:58:20.03 | Unknown | Yeah. Sure. |
| 01:58:23.63 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 01:58:23.65 | Unknown | Can you do it fast? |
| 01:58:24.34 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 01:58:24.39 | Unknown | Thank you. you |
| 01:58:25.16 | Adam Politzer | Yes, sir. |
| 01:58:25.20 | Jonathon Goldman | Yes, sir. |
| 01:58:26.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:58:26.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:58:26.45 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:58:26.48 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:58:27.53 | Jonathon Goldman | I'm not sure. Again, this is kind of excerpted and then modified from a capital project status I delivered a while ago. The three projects that we are currently focused on with respect to sewers are 1A, which is... Okay. |
| 01:58:52.81 | Unknown | it. |
| 01:58:57.19 | Jonathon Goldman | I have tried to be, I don't know if optimistic is the right word, I would say aggressive. Because frankly, among lots of other things, I am incredibly frustrated that we have not been able to deliver these capital improvements any more quickly than we have. |
| 01:59:19.99 | Unknown | Yeah, it's the money though, isn't it? In fairness, it's the money, isn't it? |
| 01:59:20.82 | Jonathon Goldman | isn't it? In fairness, it's just the money, isn't it? I'm allowed. I believe I... Don't take responsibility for the state. |
| 01:59:26.24 | Unknown | I would take responsibility for staying. |
| 01:59:29.69 | Jonathon Goldman | I'm frustrated and I think it's not about me. I'm sure the community is frustrated as well. And I perhaps shouldn't have said it that way. But that project is really important. So is Spinnaker Anchor. And it's frustrating to have already bid it and then have to do some additional design work and go on with it. So one of the things that my manager regularly reminds me to do is take a deep breath, as does the city attorney, and stay focused and just keep on. So the Gay Pie Broad Project, which includes, to the extent that we can, storm drainage improvements in that area, is one that we fully intend to restart and try to build back the momentum that we had. 1B, which is Spinnaker Anchor, we would want to construct and use that construction and reimbursements from state revolving loan fund to help us build that momentum. There are other projects, one of which you actually accepted this evening, but the third one that to me is a priority is this Beach Force Main project. Here is an illustration of the kind of aerial extent of the Gate 5 Road project, which includes Heath Way, which is in here. |
| 01:59:29.97 | Unknown | Of course. |
| 01:59:32.02 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:59:32.04 | Unknown | And I- |
| 01:59:32.31 | Unknown | I don't know. |
| 02:00:01.08 | Jeff Shurash | as a city attorney. |
| 02:00:03.19 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:00:03.23 | Jeff Shurash | Stay focused. |
| 02:00:55.30 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:01:08.57 | Unknown | Right, Terrible. |
| 02:01:09.17 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 02:01:09.19 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:01:09.21 | Jonathon Goldman | It's right in here. Yeah, right. We're looking at replacing sewers along Coloma between Bridgeway and Gate 5, all the way up from Varda Landing down, Gate 5 Road into, behind Fish, and then also this segment in Harbor. |
| 02:01:10.05 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:01:21.86 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:01:30.28 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:01:30.32 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. Thank you. We have already plans, project challenges that council and the community are familiar with. I'm slowing down, so I'll try to speed up. Ground settlement, this is the depiction of areas that have settled between 1967 and 2007, with red being four feet or more. The fact that the sewer is made of asbestos cement pipe that's there now. So we have some regulatory, potential regulatory issues and constructability issues there. Potential for impacted soil or groundwater associated with long-term uses of the area. And the complexity of customer responsible components. And that is a's a lot of convoluted words. I can explain more there. But our plan is to restart design, make sure that our permitting is fresh, and get it under construction as soon as we can. |
| 02:01:50.05 | Jeff Shurash | fact that the |
| 02:01:51.02 | Unknown | Thank you. because I know. |
| 02:01:59.01 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:01:59.29 | Jeff Shurash | I'm going to go. |
| 02:02:08.54 | Jeff Shurash | Oh. |
| 02:02:29.01 | Jonathon Goldman | The 1B project again involves connection, replacement of this sewer line and the line under Humboldt and then reconstruction of the anchor lift station. This line serves our tenant, the Spinnaker, serves the pump outs from Sausalito Yacht Harbor, the Chandlery building which is or was was, harbor shop and Marotta Yachts, as well as then replacing this connection into the lift station. And the lift station is our oldest lift station, is pretty seriously in need of reconstruction. This, I thought you'd be interested in this. At least I get to depict the things that will be demolished as part of that project. |
| 02:03:14.44 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:03:15.15 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:03:15.28 | Unknown | Thank you. The captain's... Thank you. . |
| 02:03:21.29 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 02:03:21.52 | Unknown | Thank you. That's worth $67,000, $78,000. |
| 02:03:22.20 | Jonathon Goldman | Uh... Challenges with this project also include ground settlement, although to a lesser extent than what we have in the Marin ship. The need for a grease interceptor associated with the restaurant operations. As we know from our bulkhead project, the potential for impacted soil and groundwater, the need to accommodate the marina pump-outs. And then again, I kind of alluded to this, the approval of award process is what slowed us down on SRF funding and approval of that first time and the challenges associated with other projects the bulkhead project will be we have a downtown restroom that John Pope incorporated his has received notice to proceed on on and we have significant pedestrian and bicycle improvements both already completed and we're trying to get some more completed so our plan here revise the design of the permitting and then get that awarded and under construction as soon as we can just Just real briefly on this, for those of you who may not remember or don't know this, there is a sewer line that runs |
| 02:03:29.07 | Unknown | a lesson. |
| 02:04:02.48 | Jeff Shurash | The project will be... Rest room. |
| 02:04:40.19 | Jonathon Goldman | from based almost from the South City limits here on Alexander, under high tide, all the way around the beach, and then connects ultimately into Main Street. There's another one that comes the other way. That, um, collects wastewater from single and multifamily dwellings, including the Cochizur Complex and other complexes south of Main Street. And we have limited access points. We cannot, even if we use the police boat, clean and inspect those lines. The proximity of those lines to aquatic habitat, in my judgment, makes potential consequences of a pipe failure or overflow unacceptably significant. So we are continuing to coordinate scoping and evaluation of alternatives for replacing or changing the way that system works with South Litton-Maroonitary District. We're evaluating property rights for existing and potential future facilities. The last meeting that we had with South Florida Maroon City District staff, we agreed that we're going to initiate a peer review session with competing consultants to try to break that project out of a track that it's been in for a while. And our objective is to select a preferred alternative within the next year. |
| 02:05:08.58 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:05:11.26 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 02:05:31.14 | Unknown | that group. That's good. |
| 02:05:36.61 | Unknown | alternatives for |
| 02:05:43.17 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:05:58.58 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 02:06:13.92 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE Challenges, challenges. |
| 02:06:17.55 | Jonathon Goldman | Let's see, just other priority capital projects, you've already approved or have already discussed some of these. We want to integrate with Streets Project as available, and those kinds of things we would generally try to fund without borrowing money from the state revolving fund. Spot and smaller resource repairs as our resources permit. Some of those don't even have to be designed. We can get quotes and negotiate with local contractors or if we have the capability we can do them ourselves as we did here on B. Our other wastewater priorities continue to maintain the system for sanitary sewer overflow prevention. continue to coordinate and share services with the TCSD, Southlady and Morenit City Sanitary District and others for public benefit. We have through Council's adoption of the budget funds to initiate a rate study to evaluate the assumptions used for our current rate schedule, to project costs for the five-year period after the current rate schedule is completed, to evaluate potential changes to the city's policy on private facilities within the public right-of-way, and to evaluate potential funding sources for storm drains and stormwater quality improvement. |
| 02:06:57.29 | Unknown | system. |
| 02:06:57.71 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 02:07:00.75 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:07:00.97 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 02:07:39.31 | Jonathon Goldman | So happy to answer questions there. Again, we're asking that the council adopt a resolution of approving amendment number six to the professional services agreement with West Yost. |
| 02:07:41.03 | Unknown | I think Amen. |
| 02:07:52.01 | Unknown | Okay. Thank you, Jonathan. Any questions, Jonathan, on this issue? Okay, seeing none, any member of the public care to comment on this issue? Please. |
| 02:08:10.05 | Jan Johnson | Thank you, just one question. Would you say your name for us? Oh, Jan Johnson. Thank you, Jan. |
| 02:08:11.62 | Unknown | Would you say your name for us? Thank you, Jim. |
| 02:08:15.32 | Jan Johnson | Did they not just pave the entire road next to the Spinnaker bulkhead project? and I believe they're putting up new fencing, so does that mean they're gonna have to tear up the road they just paved to do the new sewer? |
| 02:08:29.91 | Unknown | want to answer that. |
| 02:08:32.48 | Jonathon Goldman | Sure, that's a good question and I appreciate you asking it, especially because the answer is no, we're not going to tear it up. The technology that is in the design for that pipe segment between Humboldt and Spinnaker is almost entirely pipe-first. So it will be done partially. |
| 02:08:43.16 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 02:08:43.18 | Unknown | for that. |
| 02:08:52.49 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:08:52.60 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:08:52.81 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:08:52.83 | Unknown | It is. |
| 02:08:56.58 | Unknown | Great. Any other members of the public here to comment on this item? All right. Seeing none, we'll bring you back up here. Do you have a motion? Does anybody want to say anything about it? |
| 02:09:07.48 | Unknown | I wanted to thank Jonathan and all his staff for all their hard work, for all the public who have given their hard-earned sewer dollars for these repairs. The citizens committees that have been involved at this moment in time. |
| 02:09:16.15 | Jeff Shurash | for these repairs. |
| 02:09:17.84 | Unknown | The citizens of the United States. |
| 02:09:24.74 | Unknown | Well, yeah, it's a very frustrating experience when the state cuts off the funding and we have to sit and wait for money to come. And we don't have, we probably have the bonding capacity, but probably don't want to use it. And certainly in this environment, it would cost us a ton of money. So I commend you for your patience and for your diligence. |
| 02:09:43.96 | Unknown | Mr. Mayor, I'd like to say something, if you may. Yes, I want to say thank you very much, Jonathan, for everything you've done. And I know you've been working on this. I know we've seen many different presentations on this. And I know it must be a challenge during these times with what's going on. But I really appreciate it. And I know the people of Sausalito do too. |
| 02:10:12.21 | Jan Fidler | Okay. Thank you. |
| 02:10:12.97 | Carolyn Revell | And I'd like to suggest that maybe you check with the State Parks Department and see if we could get part of that for people. |
| 02:10:18.47 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:10:18.49 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:10:18.51 | Jan Fidler | part. |
| 02:10:20.65 | Unknown | That would be a good idea. All right. Do I have a motion? |
| 02:10:26.17 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:10:28.63 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:10:28.70 | Unknown | I'll make a motion to adopt the resolution of the city of Sassolito, approving Amendment Number 6 to the Professional Services Agreement with Wes Yost's associate for revision of it. of bid documents for the Sausalito 1B Spinnaker Anchor Sewer Rehabilitation Project. |
| 02:10:45.74 | Unknown | Nice second. All right. Debbie, call the roll. |
| 02:10:51.82 | Unknown | Yeah, the whole council. We'll do it. Pfeiffer. Pfeiffer. |
| 02:10:53.08 | Unknown | Pfeiffer. |
| 02:10:54.97 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:10:55.02 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 02:10:55.36 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 02:10:55.43 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:10:55.44 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:10:55.60 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:10:55.61 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:10:55.97 | Unknown | I'm sorry. Yes. |
| 02:10:56.98 | Unknown | Thank you. Councilmember Ford? Yes. Councilmember Weiner? Yes. |
| 02:11:01.28 | Unknown | Thank you. TODAY. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:11:02.77 | Unknown | Vice Mayor Neum? Yes. And Mayor Kelly. |
| 02:11:03.86 | Unknown | Yes. Yes. All right. That brings us to item 6F, 6G, reconstituted F, designation of voting delegates and alternatives or alternates for the League of California Cities Annual Conference, September 5th through 7th in San Diego. And in this one, you only need us to vote if one of us is going. Is anybody on the council going to this or planning to go to this between the 5th and the 7th in San Diego? |
| 02:11:32.55 | Unknown | you |
| 02:11:33.75 | Unknown | Tonight's the night to make the choice. |
| 02:11:36.08 | Unknown | public money to pay for this? No, it's a personal |
| 02:11:38.27 | Unknown | No, it's a personal finance issue. So seeing none, what's your course of action then, Mr. City Manager? Huh? That's it? Okay. Moving right along. The Giants playing down there. City Manager information for the council. |
| 02:11:48.79 | Jeff Shurash | That's it? |
| 02:11:50.03 | Unknown | . |
| 02:11:50.36 | Jeff Shurash | . |
| 02:11:50.68 | Unknown | Moving right along. |
| 02:11:52.48 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:11:52.50 | Jeff Shurash | Play. |
| 02:11:53.11 | Unknown | of it. |
| 02:11:53.65 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:11:53.66 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:11:53.70 | Unknown | You're right. |
| 02:12:00.08 | Unknown | 9-19. Pretty good. Nine minutes after we were supposed to be. |
| 02:12:01.04 | Adam Politzer | I know. She did. Pretty good. A handful of items here to share. One of the most significant and a big thank you to staff. They held the first of two public community meetings at MLK on Monday night. |
| 02:12:09.85 | Unknown | one of them. |
| 02:12:20.85 | Adam Politzer | to meet with the neighborhood. We sent out public notices. to all the neighbors within a certain number of distance, put it in the loop. Diane Alper also, who's very involved in reaching out to her community, also got word out and attended. Received a very nice note from Diane Alper today, thanking Charlie Francis, who put together the presentation, and Jonathan Goldman and Jennifer Dehada, |
| 02:12:38.89 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:12:45.77 | Adam Politzer | who represented the city, and then there were representatives from the Lise there as well. to answer questions and help share what's going on with Elysee moving in but also just really an open opportunity to talk about what's happening there. in general, and the community to have a face. with the city, opportunity for FaceTime with the city, and we'll repeat that on Thursday night also out there in the Meetings have occurred in the auditorium and in the Marin School, which is nice to be able to use that facility. |
| 02:13:19.74 | Unknown | How was there a turnout? |
| 02:13:21.30 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. Roughly 25 people Charlie shared. And several of them were tenants that were also curious, including Pippa Murray, was one of those that was interested to know what would be happening in the near future. LAFCO, obviously, one of the items that you approved tonight was the grand jury report on really on shared services. The title was a little bit more pointed, but the purpose of their report was really to talk about the importance of shared services. And you know, as your city manager, I've been talking about this for many years now. And it's important that our community continue to stay in a leadership role. And as the president of the Marine Managers Association, I've kept it at the forefront of the Marine Managers as we go forward. Your staff, your city staff, your department heads have also worked hard to develop a list of shared services that we provide today, partnerships that we have been in some for a very long time. and then a list of opportunities that we would like to pursue in the near future. And it's my intention in September, I'd like to hold our strategic planning session that we put off prior to the June 5th election because it didn't make sense to have a strategic planning session not knowing the outcome. of the fire annexation vote. Now that that is behind us, I think it's important that we have a strategic planning session. Request not to do that in August during the breaks. I'd like to do that in September. And one of the items I'd like the department heads to present to the Council are some of the ideas. for shared services so that we can have some meaningful discussion in a during a time that presents itself well for strategic thinking. So, you know, go back and take a look at the shared services list. You know, we're looking for ideas from you as well as how we can work together. This isn't talking about consolidation or annexation. This is really just how do we use our resources. And one of the simplest ones that people can get their arms around is the city arborists. You know, there are cities that have arborists that are, because of budget restraints, are paying them now to do maintenance work. So if we were to give them money towards arborist work that they'd come do for us, they could take that money and pay someone to actually do maintenance work. So multiple cities contributed towards that. We don't have a need for a full-time arborist, but a professional arborist that's working already, that's certified, keeping their credentials up, that are working for the city of Mill Valley, for example. that would make a lot of sense for us to explore those opportunities. That's some of the basic things. There are things that are a lot more Complex. There are things that you've already approved, which is a part of the budget with SWOT. where we have put in one of our officers with the Twin Cities Department, what has SWAT, Mill Valley, Tiburon, have all contributed, so now we have a Southern Marin agency that's able to, one, give professional development for our officers but also if something significant were to occur. we're also a part of that team. So there's a lot of things that we're already doing, but I think with the capability, creativity, and expertise that you have with your department heads, I think there'll be a lot of other ideas that come forward that make sense and help us continue to support the services that are important to us and maybe enhance them. And you heard one of them tonight when our city librarian was talking about working with my encouragement, working with the library again, you know, they have a library there. They actually have a building and it has books in it. And we have students that go there and we saw the growth chart of their expect, expectancy of having more students in the future, an opportunity to use their facility, share the services and provide them with some of the city's expertise along the way. So I think that there's some very exciting opportunities in the future. That'll be something that will present to the Council at the Strategic Planning Session. and based on the direction of the council, during the strategic planning session We'll come back. in October and November and give a presentation so that the public can also see where we'd like to go in the near future, obviously based on what comes out of strategic planning session. Bicycle and ferry and parking related to bicycles has, we've reached a critical mass as Council Member Weiner has shared with me and as I have experienced myself and as our Public Works Director and Police Chief have actively participated in. I know that Jennifer came down on the weekend to take a look at what was going on and then has sent forward some recommendations onto the bike companies and the ferry companies. As much as we every single year for the last five years have made changes with signage, with adding racks, reconfiguring how people get onto the ferry, adding ferry boats, adding ferry staff, adding bicycle staff. adding ambassadors, We are seeing again just how popular this event is. It's again, the number one tourist thing to do is to ride your bike from Fisherman's Wharf cross the Golden Gate Bridge and enjoy a ferry ride home. It's the number one tourist attraction. And it's a one-trip experience. Customers say this is terrible. and don't come back, it's just a new group of tourists that continue to do the activity. So we still continue to have significant challenges I really appreciate the work of staff and then also the expertise and support that we're getting from Jim Swimmer from the Golden Gate Ferry District He also is actually working out at the site. He was out there on a Sunday, worked an entire shift, to really understand, you know, what the issues are and has done several site visits and not just a drive-by, looks like things are going well, but really meaningful visits and including meeting with me and staff to try to look for additional solutions. At the end of this summer season, we'll sit down again with the leadership of our public works director and our police chief, and Curtis Goog is given the responsibility of being the project manager of this situation. Again, come forward to the council with recommendations on things to improve for next year. We're interested in your feedback. Um, in the public's feedback, so if the public has recommendations or comments, direct those either to me or to the police chief. you And then as we do our evaluation at the end of the summer, we'll look for some ways to make improvements. Thank you. The biggest change that happened this past weekend was that three new ferries were introduced into the system. too from Golden Gate Ferry. approximately at two o'clock and four o'clock so those are two additional ferries and then blue and gold put in an additional ferry on their run in the in the late afternoon time period so again to try to take the folks that are arriving between 1 30 and 2 give them the ability to get out of here before night falls and their dinner plans have been ruined in the city there is no simple solution. It's, you know, your list of before night falls and their dinner plans have been ruined in the city. There is no simple solution. It's, you know, you're listening, and this is going to transition to another subject, but you're listening to the county talking about ending homelessness in 10 years. And I had lunch with the county administrator, Matthew Heimel. and he worked for Willie Brown in the city. and Willie Brown, who was the mayor at the time, said, to their team, and Matthew was a part of this team, what will it cost us to end homelessness or to end homelessness in San Francisco, and they just laughed at him and said, there's not enough money. He says, okay, well tell me how many people, how many families, mothers with children, are on the wait list for homes, for housing in San Francisco. And the number was 400. So Willie said, OK, we're going to solve that. How much money will that cost? Three million dollars. Okay, here's three million dollars. very next year. How many people are on the wait list? 4,000 people. Because if you build it, people will come. And so with the bikes, that's where this kind of intersects, is that as much as the Gongi Bridge continues to be a visitor location, a destination internationally, a monument that's seen around the world as a place to see and visit in our proximity to it, and then the opportunity to take, which used to be the number two ferry ride in the world, has probably got to be competing for number one now, but to take the number two ferry ride back the world is probably got to be competing for number one now. But to take the number two ferry ride back to the city, we're not going away, San Francisco is not going away, and the Boney Bridge isn't going away. So we're going to have to continue to deal with this. So at some point there will be. a a volume that hits a level that creates a very unsafe experience for our visitors and for our residents and for our businesses. And that's what we're trying to avoid from occurring. I can tell you that everyone engaged in this is actively participating, the bicycle companies, Uh, your council member Weiner, and staff. the volunteers at the kiosk, the Chamber of Commerce, the businesses. Everyone's engaged in trying to find a solution. But I think, unfortunately, it's going to be similar to what the county's going to experience with trying to end homelessness in 10 years. It's just something that you can't actually do, but how can you improve it? And that's, you know, that's what our commitment is to our residents and to our businesses and to our visitors here in our community. On a lighter note and fun note, we had the kickoff of the Sister City program yesterday morning. Thank you for the three council members that were able to I think that the students and their Um, not ambassadors, but the chaperones, really appreciate it. the seriousness of the meeting, and the formality of the meeting And obviously, we appreciate it, the students speaking in English. and their really exceptional speeches that they all made, the brief ones, and then the much longer speech that they're student representative made. I think that we all recognize that. A special thanks to Mike Langford who isn't here and to his park and recreation staff for their involvement and commitment to supporting the Sister City program because as you've seen in Susan Rose list of activities for the time that they're here, there is no stopping, there's no resting for the homestay host as our mayor is hosting and his wife are hosting one of the students. There's no resting for anyone. And I think it's going to be a very exciting and meaningful experience. So if you have an opportunity to attend any of the classes, activities, stop by and get |
| 02:24:48.16 | Jeff Shurash | Yes. |
| 02:25:02.38 | Adam Politzer | and have a quick wave hello. or if there's time at some of these receptions interact with the kids. For if you know of other young kids in their high school age group. which is something that I'm going to take advantage of High school daughter. is give them an opportunity to interact because I think that that would also be meaningful both ways. I do need to respond. You know, there was a statement made earlier about the city manager kicking the pension down the road or are financial situation down the road. My important response to the public that's listening is that in the five years that I've been your city manager, We went from zero in the reserves to 25% in the reserves. We've, We're now in the process of paying off our side funds, which is saving us 7.75% interest, and we've been paying on significant money. We have staff expertise, but we also have a stable workforce. So I think that, you know, speaking on behalf of our Administrative Services Director and just the tremendous amount of work, that he and I put in every day, every week, every month, every year that we work together. in making sure that we stay on budget, that we protect our services, that we make sure that we have a stable financial condition which I can't say that my neighboring cities have been able to do. |
| 02:26:28.11 | Unknown | you |
| 02:26:28.19 | Jeff Shurash | with the |
| 02:26:31.67 | Adam Politzer | Um, and still be thriving as we roll into a new economy which we don't quite know exactly what it's going to be, just my walk throughout town today, you can see that every restaurant was full, and this is a Tuesday. As the Councilmember Weiner always talks about, the number of buses that we see loading people in and out that are visiting our town. I think that we are doing a very good job of managing our financial resources. I think that as we, negotiate with our employees to create a place where they want to stay and a place where new people want to come is a fine line. We all agree that pension reform is important. Every city manager in the state of California agrees with that. We were the ones that started this process by creating the white papers that have been the blueprints for others to launch from. We started it. We're going to be in the middle of it and at the very end of it, we'll be at the end of it. It will have to. start with the managers and end with the managers, once whatever gets worked out, either through the states, the courts, the voters, eventually will come back to the managers to bring into operation and to protect, again, the services that are important to our community. So I just thought that it was important that I didn't let that go without, again, really talking about that this city manager has never kicked any can down the road. Thank you. |
| 02:28:07.28 | Unknown | All right. Okay. For our city manager. |
| 02:28:10.81 | Carolyn Revell | our city manager I read an article in the I believe it was Marin scope that the Alcatraz ferry is maybe coming here and I'd like to know about that it seems to me we have enough going on in this town and we're saturated overly saturated with tourists so can you speak to that please |
| 02:28:31.75 | Adam Politzer | Absolutely. There is a community meeting that was held here in the council chambers that went out. in an announcement that the community government put out through the current. It's the initial study. They are looking at red and white, who's been trying to get their foot into Sausalito, for my fairy. is trying to pressure the PUC to give them the ability to land at our ferry-hanging, which is the Golden Gate Ferries, actually, their float. So they're at the initial beginning. Now this has had some A variety of creep in it. It started that it was just gonna be red and white going to Kavala Point from Fisherman's War. and then it went to Cavallo Point to Fishman's Fork to Cavalla Point, over to Sausalito, back to Fishman's Fork. Then it was all three of those plus Alcatraz, then it was just Alcatraz, and Alcatraz to Muir Woods as part of this. So there's a variety of things being proposed. They have not yet gone any further, |
| 02:29:29.41 | Unknown | contrast in your way. you |
| 02:29:38.10 | Adam Politzer | Just today, the city attorney and I met with Jeremy Graves and have asked Heidi who was at the public meeting, that attended the public meeting on behalf of the city, to work with us, work with the two of us, to provide a response to the PUC, or to Golden Gate, whomever our response needs to go to, because we feel exactly, as you stated, We can't take any now. |
| 02:30:05.56 | Unknown | Thank you. We can. |
| 02:30:05.93 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. And we've asked the fairies District, and Chief Tejada already started this, to start taking photos of what it looks like in June, July, and August because they show up in November, December, January, what's the problem? We have plenty of capacity here. We want them to actually see the issue. |
| 02:30:21.10 | Unknown | actually see. |
| 02:30:23.26 | Adam Politzer | Now, You know, some folks would say this is an economic opportunity because you now create a destination for people to come to board and go to Alcatraz and come back. and when they're waiting, or when they've come back, then the opportunity to come and dine in your restaurant But as I shared earlier, Tuesday at lunchtime, I didn't see an open seat in any of our restaurants in the downtown corridor. So I don't see much capacity there either. But this process will go through the public process. It won't be a public process that happens here. It's the PUC. that will be the deciding body. As individual council members, you're welcome. to send letters. I will ask Heidi, once she has the information, to send that out to the council. And then if there is time, which I would imagine there'll be plenty, We can ask Jim Swindler. to come back to a September-October meeting give us the lay of the land from what Golden Gate Ferry thinks. Golden Gate Ferry doesn't want it to happen because they're taking the gravy. They have to be here 365 days and operate |
| 02:31:29.29 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:31:30.90 | Adam Politzer | throughout multiple hours during those days, not just the peak season. So Golden Gate Ferry has said to the PUC, |
| 02:31:30.93 | Jeff Shurash | you know. |
| 02:31:38.64 | Adam Politzer | We're willing to do those runs. We have the shifts and we want to control the schedule anyway. This is my conversation with Jim Swindler on this past Friday. So that's been their position. We're at the very beginning of this discussion, but that was the announcement that went out in the currents, they held a, an initial meeting here in this room, and that will continue this process. |
| 02:31:55.26 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 02:31:55.32 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:31:56.68 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 02:31:56.75 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:32:00.77 | Carolyn Revell | I just want to make sure the city weighed in on it. And my second question regarding ferries and bicycles. |
| 02:32:14.32 | Carolyn Revell | Oh, I lost my thought for a moment is When you are soliciting information and suggestions from the public. Could you put something on the website that allows the public to weigh in on this? Because I think that we don't have a bicycle and pedestrian committee, which I've, been pushing for ever since I've been on this council. So lack of that, I think we need something |
| 02:32:46.73 | Jeff Shurash | Why? |
| 02:32:49.91 | Carolyn Revell | to allow residents to give their ideas on how, what they want to see with pedestrian and bicycle traffic. And that would be my second suggestion. And I won't respond to the pension issue. We just simply disagree. |
| 02:33:06.75 | Adam Politzer | May I make a comment? I just want to quickly on the icicle. |
| 02:33:09.41 | Carolyn Revell | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:33:11.81 | Adam Politzer | I'll see if we have the tool to do that on the website. I don't believe that we do at this moment, but we'll look and see what other avenues we can create. I can tell you that so far there's not been anyone shy to provide information to the chief or myself on other possibilities, including that we had must walk bike on sidewalk in German incorrectly translated, which Jonathan then corrected. Oh, okay. So, you know, we had the... |
| 02:33:38.59 | Unknown | Thank you. Correct. |
| 02:33:40.61 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:33:40.65 | Unknown | Yeah. Yeah. |
| 02:33:43.32 | Adam Politzer | technical writing but not the... |
| 02:33:45.10 | Unknown | I told him to go jump in the bay. |
| 02:33:47.74 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 02:33:47.80 | Unknown | I might say. OK. Just a quick, can I take a minute? I'll wait until. Thank you. |
| 02:33:56.12 | Unknown | Mr. Mayor, I have a comment soon. |
| 02:33:56.14 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:33:56.16 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:33:56.38 | Unknown | Mary. |
| 02:33:56.66 | Unknown | We're in the city manager information for council category. So if you have a question, the city manager. |
| 02:33:59.80 | Unknown | Yes. I do. Herb, did Council Member Weiner? No, we have a question. Okay. So my question regarding the ferries and specifically the residents. A couple months ago, I was down there at the ferry landing, too, and I just by serendipity started helping out with the Blazing Saddles representative there. And it was just crazy. It was chaos. And later, recently, I was going to meet friends in the city, and I had to take the ferry in, and there were other residents there. |
| 02:34:04.04 | Unknown | No, it's just a nice question. |
| 02:34:40.81 | Unknown | who were going in as well. And there were a lot of, of course, tourists in line, too. And, you know, I asked the boarding, the people who helped us board, you know, have they ever turned away pedestrians, too? And they said, yes. You know, when we reach a 200 capacity, we, you know, we have cut it off. And it struck me that isn't there some way we could potentially have some sort of like a 10 or a nominal number of tokens for residents who are not who live here, who just need to get into the city. to be able to get on those ferries. I know that they give tokens for the bicycles to count The bicycles, I know they do that. And I don't know if this is just to suggest a question if they could look into perhaps setting aside a certain amount of tokens for residents to make sure that they get on the ferry, you know, irrespective. |
| 02:35:50.75 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, I mean, when he gets to council reports, probably gonna give you a little more information. They have always honored If you come up and say you're a resident or you work here in town, even if you have a bike and you've commuted over from the city, Charlie Francis is someone that does that. He's riding his bike kits on the paris they'll just put you right on the ferry. They cannot say, associate residents get preferred treatment. It's a public, it's a public, it's just like right under the transit bus. So we try to share that information as much as we can, but they can't allow us to broadcast that and we technically can't broadcast it. |
| 02:36:19.83 | Unknown | Thank you. It's just like. |
| 02:36:20.94 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:36:21.08 | Unknown | Right, it's a grand stress. |
| 02:36:22.63 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 02:36:22.97 | Jeff Shurash | So, that's... |
| 02:36:32.10 | Unknown | Okay, thank you. That was my question. And my other two questions relate to the Lise, the Francis Lise School. And what I heard was that the Lise attorney was there as the representative, but not a representative from the school. I don't know if that is... the case or not, but if that is the case, I would recommend, if possible, that we have an actual representative from the school, you know, administration be there. |
| 02:37:05.73 | Adam Politzer | We've asked for that too, but because of other requests to do this in July and in August, as many French do, they... They take large and long vacations. And they're not available. They weren't available. And so we said you have to have a representative because their attorney has been in every single meeting that staff has been in. And the attorney is a local, was a local resident, former council member, Ray Budde. |
| 02:37:18.05 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:37:36.55 | Adam Politzer | We felt confident that he understood the social leader issues and that he obviously he's been representing the school for a while. When we do the open house, when we actually do here is your tenant, here is your school, then they'll be available. And if there are specific questions or need. to attend future meetings. then we can make that possible. Charlie asked the attendants if they were going to come back on Thursday or if they had any need, and Diane Alper said, Nope, I got more than enough information. I'm very satisfied. When the traffic study information comes forward, then they wanted to be a part of that. |
| 02:38:16.71 | Unknown | Yeah, and so I think it's great that Ray Buddy was there and participated. I'm sorry about the school. No, I understand. He's the school's attorney, and I think that's good. But I'm just passing this on because I heard this feedback from the residents. The other question I had is if with respect to the traffic study, that there was an expressed interest in the neighbors to be a part of the traffic study to participate in and provide input as opposed to just receiving, you know, a study. And that was the other bit of feedback. Is that possible? |
| 02:38:22.07 | Jan Johnson | Thank you. |
| 02:38:57.33 | Adam Politzer | I heard the same feedback and my understanding is whatever the traditional process is, which my understanding includes public input, that this will occur. |
| 02:39:07.53 | Unknown | Thank you, Adam. Those were my questions. |
| 02:39:09.54 | Unknown | Any other questions for Adam? All right, hearing none, any public want to. |
| 02:39:13.75 | Unknown | Good. No, we'll just keep going. One more. Go ahead. No, it's to do with something else. Okay. Okay. |
| 02:39:20.07 | Unknown | Okay, any member of the public want to comment? Yes. |
| 02:39:29.42 | Jan Fidler | Jan Fidler from 501, Oliva Street. I didn't want you to go home without knowing about the excitement that was going on outside, because it was just after your little bit of excitement out there about quarter to nine. |
| 02:39:44.29 | Unknown | Yeah, I think that's a good idea. Thank you. |
| 02:39:46.03 | Jan Fidler | Thank you. |
| 02:39:46.06 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:39:46.08 | Jan Fidler | Thank you. |
| 02:39:46.11 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:39:46.68 | Jan Fidler | Thank you. |
| 02:39:46.72 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:39:46.75 | Jan Fidler | The little man put his head through the door, or almost through the door, and as soon as I looked at him I knew that the city manager would have to get involved with this man. And so he actually went into the library, and wasn't too surprised to see at least eight firemen come in. And so what had happened was that he'd gone into the library and asked the librarian to call 911. And this little man had escaped from an institution somewhere because he was dressed in his hospital |
| 02:39:46.92 | Unknown | man could |
| 02:39:56.47 | Jeff Shurash | name. |
| 02:40:19.29 | Unknown | Oh. So, Thank you. Hmm. |
| 02:40:22.49 | Jan Fidler | Thank you. |
| 02:40:26.86 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:40:26.88 | Jan Fidler | Yeah, oh boy. But I knew that you'd be safe because you've got a doctor in the house. |
| 02:40:31.89 | Unknown | Hahaha. |
| 02:40:36.87 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 02:40:37.02 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:40:37.09 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:40:37.28 | Unknown | That'll go, Jan. |
| 02:40:37.53 | Unknown | That'll go, Jan. Okay. All right. Council member committee reports. Herb, you have something to say. |
| 02:40:46.62 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:40:47.49 | Carolyn Revell | Oh, you missed future agenda items. |
| 02:40:49.66 | Unknown | How could you do that? |
| 02:40:51.47 | Carolyn Revell | I have one, that's why I can't. Oh, Mr. Mayor. |
| 02:40:51.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:40:51.70 | Unknown | So... |
| 02:40:52.24 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:40:52.26 | Unknown | you |
| 02:40:52.41 | Unknown | Thank you, Councilmember Ford. So my two future agenda items, HLB, we have at least one member whose term limits has expired, and we have several applicants who are ready to be interviewed, and I'm hoping just that we can move forward on the HLB. And that is one future agenda item. The other one is to echo what Council Member Ford said earlier, which is the bicycle and pedestrian committee. I too have been, I support getting that off the road. I know that we have applicants for that as well. |
| 02:40:57.10 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:41:35.78 | Unknown | We don't have a committee for that, do we? No. |
| 02:41:37.13 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:41:37.17 | Unknown | Let's go. |
| 02:41:37.77 | Unknown | Thank you. . |
| 02:41:38.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:41:39.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:41:39.21 | Unknown | Um, |
| 02:41:39.97 | Unknown | Task Force. |
| 02:41:40.91 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:41:41.59 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:41:41.70 | Unknown | you |
| 02:41:41.77 | Unknown | Whatever it is. |
| 02:41:42.65 | Unknown | No, whatever. Any other? |
| 02:41:42.87 | Unknown | Whatever. |
| 02:41:45.13 | Carolyn Revell | Yes, I have one. It's along the same vein in addition to HLB. We need to populate the Trees and Views Committee. Grant Colfax left that a couple months ago. and there is an expired term, I believe, but we need to I think we need to take a close look at all our community committees but certainly trees and views. |
| 02:42:09.63 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:42:09.67 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 02:42:09.95 | Unknown | Maybe Debbie, you could, over the, If you're here, which you probably won't be, but just send out something and see if we can get some interest in those two committees. |
| 02:42:22.20 | Carolyn Revell | I think we already have some for trees and views, so we may be able to move forward with that. |
| 02:42:22.44 | Unknown | Exactly. |
| 02:42:26.95 | Unknown | And for HLP. Thank you. |
| 02:42:30.79 | Unknown | All right, Councilwoman, committee reports. |
| 02:42:34.91 | Unknown | Yeah, just one thing in the school district, I think Adam spoke to it last time, but I think it's more final now that the proposed bond issue that the school district was going to do for $20 million, I think, went by the wayside once they realized they hadn't actually communicated with their own school board about it. It became very apparent that they hadn't even communicated that the people actually control the school board hadn't actually... The Willow Creek, people actually control the Willow Creek school board didn't actually talk to the Willow Creek School Board about it. So it became apparent that A, it was disorganized, and B, it's a big issue. |
| 02:43:08.10 | Unknown | I'm not sure. |
| 02:43:16.44 | Unknown | on the Repticree. |
| 02:43:17.40 | Unknown | So it's not going to be on the ballot this November. But they were ready to go, have four quick meetings, and put it on the ballot. But I think the reason why it stopped, frankly, was that Willow Creek parents didn't know anything about it. |
| 02:43:29.00 | Unknown | Mm. |
| 02:43:29.06 | Unknown | Thank you. So it was probably. |
| 02:43:31.02 | Unknown | Raoul. |
| 02:43:32.15 | Unknown | Good intentions or not, or good outcome or not, is probably a better way to look at it. Luckily, it's been tabled for further study because it has broad implications for their proposal was to put the public school in Marin City and Willow Creek in Sausalito alone. both public schools, the lower school and the middle school, and that has a lot of implications to it. So that's my report as your liaison to the Okay. |
| 02:44:08.77 | Unknown | Thank you. Any others? |
| 02:44:09.46 | Unknown | Yeah, I'll just just so you know what quickly how we have set up the bikes and what goes on down there now. We have a reservation system. It seems to be working. It seems to be working. We have attendance from the bike companies come in. during the week at 11 o'clock and on weekends on 10, 30. You have two people working at the Golden Gate Ferry Inn and what we do is we set up reservations with these chips. Well, the way it's set up now is that We go all the way to 610 with reservations. And I can tell you by 1.30 in the afternoon That's what it is. It's booked. at 1.30 in the afternoon all the way up to the 6.10. At 610, it's first come, first serve. And that's counting bringing over the ferries. But I will tell you that even Saturday, even Sunday, even yesterday. Just say, I fall every day. that by, I will say, by 655, Just about 99% of all the bikes have cleared out of Sausalito that plan to go back on. So it is working, it's just that We've kind of reached a saturation point where we have to look in the future at a plan B, but for now, that's the way it's working. The advantage of the reservation system is that when someone comes in and makes that reservation for, we'll say, the three o'clock ferry They can leave their bike, they can go eat, rather than sit and wait in line for two hours and get so pissed off. This way here, it's an experience, they eat, They get in line and they go. Thank you. |
| 02:46:03.91 | Unknown | Mm. |
| 02:46:04.28 | Unknown | And I think it's a benefit. I think you could almost say each time that you have these reservations set up like that, I think you would probably see for the business people, it's probably a $2,000 plus. |
| 02:46:04.30 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:46:17.81 | Unknown | Councilmember Weiner, can I have a question? |
| 02:46:19.82 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:46:20.97 | Unknown | Thank you. So if I'm a cyclist, a commuter, and I have my bicycle with me, is it that the participants of the reservation system are the rental bikes as opposed to the cyclist commuters or the resident cyclists? |
| 02:46:28.36 | Unknown | Yep. |
| 02:46:28.65 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:46:28.66 | Jeff Shurash | Thank you. |
| 02:46:39.68 | Unknown | Oh. Thank you. Yeah, well, what we have done is we We are careful calling it a commuter. for reasons that were just mentioned. What we do is we call it a clipper card. If you have a clipper card, and 99% of the commuters have a clipper card, we form an area where That and electric bikes have priorities. |
| 02:47:03.83 | Unknown | Okay, thank you. |
| 02:47:04.32 | Unknown | You follow me? And the reason for the electric bike is that can only get on one ferry company. So if you're waiting in line and all of a sudden you find out that you cannot get on that ferry because you have an electric bike, we've now, in the last three weeks, have moved it up. Those are priorities. And if you're a commuter, even with a bike, you'll see that they get on. ahead of the others. |
| 02:47:29.36 | Unknown | Sorry to be out of order, but I had to bring it down. I missed the jump to future agenda items. Is that okay if I... Yeah. The... |
| 02:47:29.94 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:47:37.19 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:47:37.43 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:47:40.18 | Unknown | I had some folks contact me about their concern about the parking permits with what's happened at South Florida Marine and the cost of the lot five permits versus the regular city parking permits. Now they're being asked to get parking permits because they can't park on the peninsula anymore. So that, you know, which is a huge discrepancy in dollar amounts. So if that's something that not the police department, but some other entity could deal with and talk with them, I think there's a little friction there with the police, with the tenants currently. So if there's some way to take a look at that, how to do that, There's obviously a lot of other issues associated with that, which I don't need to remind you folks of that have dedicated parking permits, but rather than first-run service or whatever the right way of doing it is, but it's something to put back on our table to think about. |
| 02:48:44.37 | Unknown | Okay, any other reports? All right. Any reports of other significance? Seeing none, any comment from the public about any of the reports, city manager items, whatever? All right, seeing none, I'll accept it. |
| 02:49:01.23 | Unknown | Stewardship. Thank you. |
| 02:49:02.21 | Unknown | Second. All in favor, aye. |
| 02:49:04.30 | Unknown | Bye. Thank you. |
| 02:49:10.76 | Unknown | How durable. |
| 02:49:12.23 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. . Ha ha ha. |