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| 00:00:00.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:01.25 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:01.82 | Unknown | What? |
| 00:00:02.04 | Unknown | Does that mind? |
| 00:00:04.22 | Unknown | Oh, sorry. That's mine. |
| 00:00:08.48 | Unknown | All right, I'd like to call this meeting to order, please. Should we have? Could we have everybody in the audience take a seat, please? Is that working? you might have to talk close up. So, where are you? |
| 00:00:24.31 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:26.22 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:26.51 | Unknown | you |
| 00:00:28.04 | Unknown | All right, I'd like to call the meeting to order. This is the Tuesday, September 25th, regular meeting in the South Salado City Council. Debbie, would you call the roll? |
| 00:00:36.55 | Unknown | You know things on Debbie's ism? |
| 00:00:38.22 | Unknown | Are these working? |
| 00:00:41.97 | Unknown | Hello? Can you hear us? Can you hear us up there OK? All right. OK. We've got half a wall anyway. Thank you. |
| 00:00:49.63 | Unknown | Thank you. you |
| 00:00:52.14 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:00:54.92 | Unknown | Speak louder. |
| 00:00:57.56 | Unknown | Hello. Yeah, there's no, that's weird, it's a disconnect. |
| 00:00:59.67 | Unknown | All right. Amen. |
| 00:01:33.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:01:34.03 | Unknown | you |
| 00:01:34.09 | Unknown | My name is. |
| 00:01:35.80 | Unknown | Hello? All right. Hello? |
| 00:01:37.20 | Unknown | All right. Hello? Hello? Anyway, call the roll, please. |
| 00:01:41.26 | Unknown | Council Member Pfeiffer. Here. Councilmember Ford. Here. Councilmember Weiner. |
| 00:01:46.44 | Unknown | President. |
| 00:01:48.20 | Unknown | Vice Mayor Leone? Here. Mayor Kelly? |
| 00:01:50.53 | Unknown | Care. All right. Let's see, Pledge of Allegiance. Mike Moyle, how about you lose the pledge? |
| 00:02:02.63 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:02:02.64 | Todd | you Thank you. Thank you. you |
| 00:02:04.03 | Unknown | to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, |
| 00:02:04.27 | Todd | Thank you. |
| 00:02:04.40 | Unknown | I'm not sure. |
| 00:02:04.74 | Todd | you |
| 00:02:05.46 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:02:05.97 | Todd | Thank you. |
| 00:02:06.05 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:02:13.26 | Unknown | indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. |
| 00:02:17.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:02:17.90 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:02:17.97 | Unknown | you All right, the council met in closed session to consider four items, and we gave direction on the Clipper Yacht Harbor versus Sausalito case to our city attorney. Same on Bruce versus City of Sausalito, and by 3 to 2 vote, approved 3 and 4. All right. |
| 00:02:43.38 | Unknown | Will all the closed session materials return to the city attorney? No? Thank you. Who didn't return the materials? |
| 00:03:00.17 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:03:00.21 | Unknown | Okay. Okay. Any public comment on the closed session items? |
| 00:03:06.33 | Unknown | you |
| 00:03:08.73 | Unknown | All right, seeing none, we'll move to approval of the agenda. |
| 00:03:12.56 | Unknown | So moved. |
| 00:03:14.51 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:03:14.58 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:03:14.68 | Unknown | Second. |
| 00:03:17.97 | Unknown | Is mine working? |
| 00:03:18.92 | Unknown | Thank you. I think yours is the only one that works. |
| 00:03:20.98 | Unknown | All in favor? Aye. Aye. The real question is, are you picking this up on the machine? |
| 00:03:26.02 | Unknown | for the internet. |
| 00:03:26.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:03:26.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:03:27.04 | Unknown | Because if you pay off the machine, we just talk louder, okay? If anybody has trouble hearing, raise your hand, we'll speak up. Thank you. |
| 00:03:27.46 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:03:34.24 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:03:34.26 | Unknown | you |
| 00:03:35.25 | Unknown | All right, and now is the time for communications, public communications. We have no special presentations, so public communications is the time when the public can address the Council on matters that are not on the agenda. Is there anyone here to... yes, Figge. Figge Nichols. |
| 00:03:59.89 | Vicki Nichols | Good evening, Mayor Kelly and council members. I would ask tonight that you adjourn this meeting in honor of Ron Page, a 25-year Sausalito resident who passed away at Stanford Hospital on September 5th. Ron has been in Sausalito 25 years. He grew up in Cleveland, Ohio, and came out to Sausalito when He and his business partner were offered the distributorship for Nike, and they said, okay, if we're getting this for California, we're going to go to Sausalito. So they moved into 1750 Bridgeway, where Michael Rex is now, and couldn't get over their good fortune. They were doing fine until Ron decided to hang a neon swoosh, Nike swoosh, in the window, and they ran into Sausalito building codes. So he learned about that pretty soon. Ron was instrumental in building brands, and he was very good at doing this. He brought... I'm sorry, he was responsible for the success of brands like Clinique, Estee Lauder, Polo, Ralph Lauren, and he was well known in his field. And we shared a mutual friend and we saw each other about once a month. And he would bring, he then went into shoes. And there would not be Teva, Simple, or Ugg brand without Ron. He kind of revived those. So if you like those or not, he was responsible. He would bring our friend a pair of shoes. And you always knew that if those shoes were forefront shoes, they would be very popular soon. He was a really gentle guy. He'd been a Marine. And he was very dignified and elegant and soft-hearted. And the one thing that his wife, Kathy, I talked to her briefly. She said, make sure and tell them about the streets. And he would say to me, Vicki, why are the streets so bad in Sausalito? And I'd say, I don't know. He'd say, they need to get paved. And I said, Ron, they're going to get paved. There's a plan. They've got a list of all the streets. Well, when his street was paved, the next time I saw him, I thought you would have given him a million bucks. He was so happy. Those little things make a lot of difference. He met Kathy in Sausalito on a blind date, his wife. They were married at Star of the Sea and had the reception at Casa Madrona. He was a really great guy, very smart, never mean word out of him, and very clever and entrepreneurial, and he loved Sausalito. So I'm sure, and I know his wife would be honored to have the meeting adjourned in his honor tonight. Thank you. |
| 00:06:34.94 | Unknown | Thank you. We will do that. All right, next to the action minutes of the previous meeting, do we have any corrections? If not, do we have a motion? |
| 00:06:46.03 | Unknown | the minutes. |
| 00:06:48.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:06:48.05 | Unknown | Thank you. All in favor? Aye. All right. And next we have the consent calendar. Items on the consent calendar are considered to be routine and not controversial. |
| 00:06:52.66 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:06:59.76 | Unknown | But any member of the public or any member of the council can remove those items for a full hearing if they so desire. So do I have a motion to approve consent? |
| 00:07:08.40 | Unknown | I have a couple of questions for making a motion. |
| 00:07:09.79 | Unknown | MR PALLADINO, I have a question. Thank you. |
| 00:07:13.35 | Unknown | Todd or John, can you answer your question about the next gen system? |
| 00:07:27.22 | Unknown | Will that, I couldn't, I didn't get, I saw it because the Charlie signature wasn't on the staff report, but will that spit out anything that can be brought into the Spring Book system so that the financial planning, are those compatible? The short answer is yes, and I'm not sure why the signature wasn't on it. |
| 00:07:47.89 | Jim | Thank you. |
| 00:07:47.91 | Unknown | you know. |
| 00:07:48.33 | Jim | Thank you. |
| 00:07:55.79 | Unknown | Thank you. We're good. To the death of my knowledge. Yeah, he was on vacation. Thank you. The... That's all I wanted to know. He signed it and eventually when he got back, and he's on board, and it will have output that to the community as well. Yeah. |
| 00:08:14.65 | Unknown | Any other questions on any item on the consent calendar? |
| 00:08:18.55 | Unknown | And one maybe for either you can answer it or Todd, on the 72 flat, is that wall just essentially going backward and old and retaining wall was? No. No? Todd says no. Why is that? |
| 00:08:27.67 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:08:31.92 | Unknown | I don't think so. around the corner for me. |
| 00:08:36.64 | Unknown | Thank you. I don't have anyone in the room with Mona and Coman who can answer any questions. |
| 00:08:44.44 | Unknown | Do you remember Mary from the Planning Commission? Is that |
| 00:08:49.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:08:49.99 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:08:50.02 | Unknown | Sorry, there's a coaching agreement you sent to Vlad, and is it going to, do you remember that project at all, or is that not a planning commission project? |
| 00:09:00.32 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. Well, first. If there's a proposed encroachment agreement, it would have been a planning commission project because they're going to be recommending to the Council the approval of the agreement. I don't recall the specifics of that project, but I can try and pull it up and refresh my recollection. |
| 00:09:18.64 | Unknown | It's not encroaching into the street. It's just a setback right away. |
| 00:09:25.39 | Mary Wagner | I'll see you here. |
| 00:09:26.25 | Unknown | You can't tell from the map. That's the reason why I was asking. |
| 00:09:30.24 | Mary Wagner | Does it need? |
| 00:09:30.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:09:31.43 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:09:31.98 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. Yes. |
| 00:09:35.15 | Mary Wagner | I mean, if you'd like, Vice Mayor Leon, we can pull that item and continue it to the next meeting. |
| 00:09:41.76 | Unknown | or could you find out the answer to this meeting or why we just put it as a business item at the end? |
| 00:09:45.76 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:09:46.05 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:09:46.98 | Unknown | Thank you. Okay, sure. It's not too much trouble, right away you can get rid of it. |
| 00:09:49.00 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:09:49.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:09:49.42 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:09:49.44 | Unknown | We'll be right back. |
| 00:09:49.85 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:09:50.32 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:09:51.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:09:51.79 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:09:51.82 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:09:51.84 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:09:51.89 | Unknown | some questions. |
| 00:09:53.39 | Unknown | for. |
| 00:09:56.12 | Unknown | Um, Thank you. |
| 00:09:58.00 | Unknown | So the 72 plat, which is, is that two things? One, is it encroaching into just the right-of-way, or is it actually a new location for a new retaining wall versus an existing one? |
| 00:09:58.33 | Unknown | Uh, |
| 00:10:17.84 | Unknown | All right. |
| 00:10:18.01 | Unknown | Which item are you here for anyway? |
| 00:10:20.58 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:10:20.63 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:10:20.64 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:10:21.01 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. to. |
| 00:10:23.19 | Unknown | Thank you. Oh, you're here just for this one? No. No? Okay. |
| 00:10:32.86 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. All right. Thank you. changing the location of the city's getting well so it's closer to the street or |
| 00:10:40.32 | Alison | that I can get information for you on. |
| 00:10:42.39 | Unknown | She's on the phone. |
| 00:10:44.66 | Alison | you |
| 00:10:44.83 | Unknown | Thank you. What do we make it? F. 66. |
| 00:10:49.65 | Unknown | She's only here for... |
| 00:10:53.77 | Unknown | She's not just going to be on. |
| 00:10:54.93 | Unknown | She's just here for the housing element. Thank you. |
| 00:10:56.82 | Unknown | All right, make it six. |
| 00:10:58.33 | Unknown | She's here for consent bills. |
| 00:11:01.14 | Unknown | Oh, I see. Why don't we just make this after? |
| 00:11:04.59 | Unknown | when she gets back. |
| 00:11:06.27 | Unknown | Sister, son. |
| 00:11:07.03 | Todd | Oh, yeah. |
| 00:11:07.72 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:11:09.97 | Todd | 72 Platte, it's a minor encroachment. There was a wooden retaining wall that would be doing the driveway and they needed to put in a more robust structure and they found that the retaining wall, the old one, wasn't covered by a court. So this kind of cracks a longstanding |
| 00:11:36.58 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:11:36.78 | Todd | Correct. Go. |
| 00:11:39.03 | Unknown | So it's not substantially changing the reality? No. Okay. Thank you, Todd. |
| 00:11:43.26 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:11:45.98 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:11:46.72 | Unknown | All right, so then are we okay with the consent calendar as |
| 00:11:51.63 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:11:51.67 | Unknown | You're armed. All right. Do I have a motion to approve? |
| 00:11:56.76 | Unknown | happening. |
| 00:11:57.40 | Unknown | All right, all in favor? Aye. Any opposed? That's it. All right, moving along to item 6A. |
| 00:11:58.52 | Unknown | Aye. |
| 00:12:14.68 | Unknown | That would be discussion and direction on preceding with placing Cascais and Portugal, Cascais, Portugal, into the Sister Cities program. Vasco? |
| 00:12:27.15 | Adam Politzer | I just want to test. |
| 00:12:32.17 | Unknown | um, Thank you, Mayor Kelly and council members. I'm here to follow up on the last council meeting where I had a Thank you. Thank you. where I had made a presentation on Qashqaiq, and I had, I guess, a couple of takeaways or follow-up items from that last meeting, so I'm back to cover the follow-up. One was to provide the mission statement. So I'd have to hear the draft. This is a draft of a mission statement, which will be vetted, but I think that it pretty much covers the intent. So it's to establish, promote, preserve, and maintain the Sausalito-Kashkais sister city relationship. to establish political, cultural, educational, social, and commercial ties, cultural and values, to promote educational and charitable cross-cultural activities consistent therewith, and to provide and create and maintain an environment that is fun and rewarding for the volunteers of the Sausalito-Kashkai Sister City Committee. I've actually used this as a template from the Portuguese Hall's mission statement. And I think maybe at the next meeting when there's a discussion about the overall organization, I think on October 9th, Michael and Susan will present on the mission statement for the entire Sausalito Sisters Cities, Inc. So there may be some modifications to fit that in with the mission statements of the other two cities. So one of the questions and follow-up items from last time was what would be the expectations of the council? And I think in a general way, the most important expectation would be similar to the other sister city programs. And my understanding is that's been primarily political support, the official sanction of the city and then some modest economic support in terms of small gifts or gratuities to the other dignitaries, official gifts from the city. And so just to reiterate, I think I said last time, the Sausalito-Kashkai Sister City program is intended to be self-funding, as are the other two sister city programs. So we wouldn't be looking to the city for any kind of material financial commitment. Finally or the next item would be what specifically is going to be coming up. First and foremost I think is I'd like to get an invitation out to the Mayor of Kishkeish. That date says May 1 to May 5, but May 5 is the date of the Holy Ghost Festa, so really I think May 6 would be the correct period. And then the signing of the protocols, what they've called is the twinning agreement, and then attending, you know, to the extent possible. I know your busy schedules, banquets, the fundraisers, entertaining, and I think we've had a lot of support from the council already in that. So between now and May, there will be at least two or three fundraisers because we have to raise the funds in order to be able to... provide the accommodations and the events that will happen in May. So in terms of action items, I've drafted some proposed resolutions. I think Adam and Debbie have both vetted those, thankfully. And I think there's been some changes that have been made to those. And that would be to formally, you know, I guess, to establish a sister city relationship. So that would be hopefully something we could do this evening. Here's the resolution. Should I read through the resolutions or? No? Okay, not necessary. Okay, you all have copies. So the next item would be to invite the mayor of Kishkais to Sausalito, and I've drafted this letter. Once again, it's a letter been reviewed and it's really subject to the, you know, this is really the letter coming from Mike Kelly. Mike and the council should decide how this would be written, but it's a proposal. Basically, we'd be inviting them for that period of May 1st through the 6th. And in terms of the invitations, it would be to the mayor, and this fellow who's, you don't see him on the CC, but he's Alexander Faria is the fellow who I first met with, who really organized the whole event in Qashqai, so I think he would be number two. And then the third one, which I'll talk to Alexander Faria, because it obviously increases our cost by another five room nights, is the deputy mayor. So I'm not sure if we need to invite the deputy mayor, and I think I'll just vet that. But I think at least two people. So that will cut. hotel room cost by a third. By the way, I think Susan Rowe has already blocked out the nights at the Casa Madron, and we got a very good rate for that. |
| 00:18:01.95 | Todd | I'm not sure. |
| 00:18:11.20 | Unknown | And so I thought, I guess I didn't have, oh yeah, the letter was there. I guess that's it, yeah. So is there any questions? that I can answer at this point? Have I covered all of the points? I think I hopefully hit the bullet points from the last meeting. |
| 00:18:26.91 | Unknown | Any questions of Vasco? Yeah. |
| 00:18:30.52 | Unknown | Nope. |
| 00:18:31.20 | Unknown | I think we understand. |
| 00:18:32.16 | Unknown | Okay, great. Thank you all. Thank you. |
| 00:18:32.72 | Unknown | Right. All right, thank you for the presentation. Would any member of the public care to address the council on this matter? All right, seeing none, I'm bringing it back up here. I think the action for tonight is... and just basically, uh, accept the report and let the process unfold. And the letter. Yeah. Has anybody had a chance to look at the letters? Yes. Any changes, comments, corrections, additions? |
| 00:18:57.66 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 00:18:58.25 | Unknown | Thank you. We'll see you next time. you doing this revolution? No, no, just a letter. |
| 00:19:05.20 | Unknown | No, no, just a letter. Yeah, the resolution will come back to us. |
| 00:19:08.53 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:19:09.83 | Unknown | So I'll hold this until tomorrow if anybody wants to email me and let me know if they have some change they want to make, or tonight give it to me at the end of the night, and that will conclude this then. Thank you very much, guys. |
| 00:19:22.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:19:23.88 | Unknown | All right. We're on. Yes. |
| 00:19:26.52 | Unknown | I just want to acknowledge again that this is the group for all of their hard work and everything they've done to pull this together. It's just been so inspiring to be a part of that, but also to see all of their hard work come to fruition with this letter. Keeping the planning agreement in this place. I just wanted to acknowledge their hard work. |
| 00:19:50.60 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:19:51.19 | Unknown | Okay. Any other comments? All right. Seeing none, we'll move on to item 7. 6B. 7B. |
| 00:19:56.81 | Unknown | The timing is now that is it going to happen at the next meeting in terms of adopting the resolution or? |
| 00:20:02.44 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:20:04.13 | Adam Politzer | out of it. when's the resolution, when can they approve it tonight? |
| 00:20:12.48 | Unknown | It's not on the agenda for approving. |
| 00:20:12.74 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 00:20:15.34 | Unknown | I think on the 9th. Yeah, so it'll come back. On the 9th. So we'll add it to. |
| 00:20:16.82 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 00:20:16.94 | Unknown | So we'll add it to the agenda for the night. Okay, very good. Thank you. |
| 00:20:20.14 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:20:20.60 | Unknown | Very good. So did he need a motion for the letter? Thank you, sir. Thank you. |
| 00:20:25.75 | Unknown | No. You can just... No. |
| 00:20:27.54 | Unknown | As long as you have no corrections. Okay. All right. Item 6B, status update on the ferry terminal. So that's the ferry terminal. And the Deputy General Manager of the Golden Gate Bridge and Highway District, Jim Swindler. |
| 00:20:27.91 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:20:28.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:20:28.13 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:20:28.18 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:20:28.38 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:20:28.41 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:20:28.46 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:20:28.50 | Unknown | you |
| 00:20:28.57 | Unknown | As long as you have no corrections. Thank you. |
| 00:20:42.37 | Unknown | Welcome, Jim. Okay. |
| 00:20:49.96 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:20:51.77 | Unknown | Gee, I thought you'd bring back some lobster rolls, eh? Lobster rolls, there you go. |
| 00:20:56.56 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:21:01.67 | Jim | Good evening, Mr. Mayor and City Council. Appreciate the opportunity to be here as always. And I'm here tonight to basically just give you an update on the progress of the replacement of the float and gangway and pier. slated for the Saussego ferry terminal. In addition to that, I'll also talk a little bit about a grant that we received, I'm not sure the city council was aware of it. But we applied for, along with Adam's help and Jonathan Goldman's help, a grant to use on the shore side facilities as well. And we received that grant, it's $2.4 million. And we think it will go quite well with a few things we'd like to do and also a number of things that you guys have already got working on as far as the access goes. So I think we've got all three pieces there and hopefully they'll come together in the next couple of years. |
| 00:21:41.14 | Unknown | you |
| 00:21:56.08 | Unknown | So |
| 00:21:56.33 | Jim | So anyways, let me just give you a little update on the ferry terminal. The first slide just shows you where the terminal is. And basically, just to refresh your memory, the primary purpose of this project is basically an access improvement to make sure that we meet all the ADA requirements. Some of the secondary benefits, obviously, are that we'll be able to improve and expedite the boarding process and also increase the passenger staging areas out over the water as part of it. I'll show you that as we go along. If we could have the next slide. |
| 00:22:38.10 | Jim | Again, this just gives you an idea, it just shows you an aerial view of the existing facility. We've got the float, we'll start at the water and we've got the float, then what we refer to as the gangway. That gangway right now is about five to six feet wide. Then we have the angled pier, fixed pier that's on pilings, that'll also be replaced. And that pier, just for reference point, is about eight to nine feet wide. The new pier that we're going to replace that, let's, okay, we'll just, again, this is just to give you an idea of The fact that the facility definitely needs to be replaced, it's quite old, in need of a lot of work, and obviously doesn't suit our purposes today. So if we could go to the next slide. Again, this shows you the gangway, just another view of what our leasehold is. It shows you what our leasehold is. And also I just wanted to point out here on this slide that the new float will be in the same location as the existing float. I think when we go to the next slide, we'll be able to, we've got some detail here that we can talk about. This shows you a couple of different things. One, it shows you the new float in place. It also shows you that we'll have to take the existing float now and move it over, move it south, and set that up with a temporary gangway out over the water and a fixed pier to access that while we're doing the work on the new float. So if we go over to the new float, you look at the new float, you'll see that that float is quite a bit larger. The existing float is 110 feet long by 42 feet wide. The new float will be 150 feet long by 53 feet wide. And the primary purpose for the length of the float is that the float is a little bit wider. If you look at the new float, you'll see on each side of it two ramps coming out that are kind of a brownish color, and then you've got one in the middle that's a white color. The two coming out that are brownish colors are going to be brand new boarding gangways that are set up for the Golden Gate ferry vessels. So we'll actually be able to board and offload passengers from two locations on a vessel. So we'll greatly enhance the experience and reduce the time greatly. that it takes to load and offload the vessels. And that's where the wider, now if we go up, we'll just move up the gangway right there, Gainway right there, as I said before, currently that's five to six feet wide. That will be almost 20 feet wide. that new gangway. So again, no choke points. Once we get off the vessel, people will be able to get right off and move out. And the same thing with the fixed pier, the lighter colored pier there. That's about 25 feet wide. Today, that's about eight to nine feet wide. So again, as you can see, a lot of choke points once you get off the shore side and start coming down, that will all be eliminated and greatly improve the situation there. Just like it is today, we'll be able to have a vessel at either side. We're not expanding this facility to have two vessels there at the same time, but we will be able to use either side, which is necessary, depending on weather conditions. Just another point, I just showed you the two gangways coming to the vessel that are brown. You've got the white one there. That's for blue and gold. We're talking to blue and gold. We've had them at two of our meetings so far. Right now we're actively into the details of this, and Blue and Gold May possibly be able to use our gangways, we're not sure. But right now, in case they can't, and also to accommodate any other vessels, we always have other vessels that land there on an ad hoc basis. We want to make sure that they can access the facility without any trouble. One other thing that's different, and we'll just talk a little bit about it, we'll go back to the fixed-peer coming, there you go, that one there. the gate now. you can move your red up, the gate now is right there. We're looking at potentially moving the gate, if you can move back towards the gate will be the portal where it says portal gate right there. That's where the gate will be. Or that's what we're talking about. That's where the gate will be. I'm sure that discussions with DCDC as we move through the permitting process will have some discussions there. But the advantage of that is it allows us to queue up people. It gives us more space to queue up people. which obviously we all know is a problem and a challenge for us in the summertime especially. The, that basically outlines the plans The only, one of the big things we're talking about right now is whether the float will actually be made of concrete or steel. A couple of different thoughts on that. Concrete, obviously, much easier to maintain. probably has an extended life period over steel. Still, you've got a dry dock facility occasionally. Um, The downside to it is in our business, the marine business, there are always changes. Boats change. You need to do things to the float. With concrete, really, really difficult to make changes like that. So we're not sure which way we're going to go. We're going to make that decision quickly because maybe I should have mentioned this earlier in the presentation. But right now we're in the environmental process. As many of you may know, we have a public outreach scheduled next week in Sausalito on October 2nd. |
| 00:28:01.89 | Vicki Nichols | Oh, yeah. |
| 00:28:07.84 | Jim | where the engineering staff will be. So we're moving down the road, and we need to lock down some of these details. Again, we've got just a couple of views here. This view is facing northeast. It just shows you the top is the existing facility. The bottom is what the rendering of the new facility would look like. And you can see the ramp has got to be some sort of a truss structure there because it's so wide. In other words, to get that width, we've got to have a truss structure. We can't just have the structure we have. And we'll come back to you. We're still talking about that. We'll come back to you once we've got what that looks like, what it's going to look like in the end. We'll probably give you a couple of options. There are a number of options out there. We're just showing you the one tonight to give you kind of an update on the status. We can go to the next slide again. Another rendering. The top is the way it is today. and the bottom is the way it's It will look when we're done. The next slide just basically outlines some of the things that are going on, some of the With this project, we don't anticipate any dredging. The only dredging that we're going to have to do is possibly a small trench because we've got to bring some utilities out to the new float. But whether it's steel or concrete, there shouldn't be any dredging involved with this. As I said, the environmental documents have been posted, filed, and the district is going to apply for a mitigated NEDEC on this project. The comment period for that is September 19th through October 19th, so basically for the next month. And the open house is next week on October 2nd. Let me just give you a little update on the schedule. And I'm going to go out on a limb a little bit here. I know the engineers probably wouldn't like this, but right now they've got a very conservative schedule laid out. what we're trying to do. I'm going to go out on a limb a little bit here. I know the engineers probably wouldn't like this, but right now they've got a very conservative schedule laid out. What we're trying to do is we're trying to accelerate the environmental process, and if we're able to do that, what we'd like to be able to do is to try and start to construct the float of the water. |
| 00:29:57.25 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 00:30:12.34 | Jim | and the float will be constructed somewhere else and then floated here and put in place. The problem with that is you can't do that until you've got basically the environmental process all locked down and approved. So we're going to try and accelerate the environmental process so that we can start construction of the float, hopefully sometime in the summer of 2013, fall of 2013. The construction on site, again, they've got this pushed out quite a ways. We're working on trying to accelerate the environmental process, but the best case scenario on that will be starting construction after America's Cup. We won't have this, unfortunately, we won't have any of this done before America's Cup, so it'll be sometime probably in the fall of 2014 and hopefully into the winter of 2000, I'm sorry, the fall of 2013 and the winter of 2014. Worst case scenario is we miss that season and we're into the next season, but we're really pushing the engineers, our engineering staff, our engineering consultants to try and make that happen. The price on the project is somewhere, just on the portion I've showed you tonight, is somewhere between $12 to $15 million. It's completely funded, so there are no funding issues with that. So with that, if you want to stop for a minute, I can take any questions you might have on the float, and then I can just talk just a little bit more about the grant that... that I mentioned earlier, if anybody's got any questions, I'd be more than happy to answer them. |
| 00:31:43.16 | Unknown | Any questions? |
| 00:31:43.97 | Jim | Thank you. Would the catamaran |
| 00:31:46.92 | Unknown | catamarans that you have at Lashford be able to dock? |
| 00:31:51.56 | Jim | Yes, this takes into consideration. We actually, some of this float does have some hydraulic platforms that will move up and down so that we can accommodate a variety of drafts, not only for our vessels, but for pretty much any vessel that's there. Thank you. |
| 00:32:06.19 | Unknown | Mr. Mayor? So it's my understanding the footprint is not changing. Is that correct? Except for the wider pathway. |
| 00:32:12.62 | Jim | Except for... Thank you. |
| 00:32:15.80 | Unknown | From 8 feet to 20 feet. |
| 00:32:15.81 | Jim | From 8 feet. Thank you. the footprint on the shore side. |
| 00:32:20.08 | Unknown | Where the boats are, I mean, out extending into the bay. |
| 00:32:25.01 | Jim | Well, actually, the fill, the bay fill will increase, and it increases significantly because the float, as I said before, the float is quite a bit bigger. So the fill will increase, and that'll be a BCDC issue, obviously, they'll probably be looking for some mitigation for that, but it has to to accommodate the type of vessels that we have, but the location will be |
| 00:32:36.64 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:32:44.69 | Jim | Pretty much the same. |
| 00:32:45.80 | Unknown | Is there any way we can see? I've looked at the pictures, and they're kind of aerial top down. Is there any way we can see an overlay of the current footprint and then |
| 00:32:57.11 | Unknown | Sure. Thank you. |
| 00:33:00.13 | Unknown | because I, yeah, but that's an eye level. That just looks at the game thing. That doesn't look at the bay area. Yeah. We can. |
| 00:33:05.91 | Jim | Oh, we can. Yeah, we can get that for you. Yeah, I'll actually send it over to Adam, and you can get it. We actually have it. I just didn't want to flood you with a big PowerPoint presentation. |
| 00:33:11.79 | Unknown | I would too. Thank you. |
| 00:33:15.63 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:33:16.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:33:16.85 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:33:18.50 | Jim | Thank you. |
| 00:33:19.11 | Unknown | I do have one question. The shore facilities, you mentioned those. What do you have in mind for shore facilities? |
| 00:33:21.95 | Unknown | Sure. |
| 00:33:28.51 | Jim | As I said, we applied for the grant. The grant basically, I'll just give you the, the grant was to increase area for safety of efficiently staging and processing passengers and bicycles. It was to provide some additional ticket vending machines, which basically, we're thinking we may only put one more there. We've got a scheme to get the bicyclist away from the ticket machine, so we probably won't need it. And then improve access routes from Sausalito City streets and pedestrian sidewalks to the ferry passenger tunnel. That was worded like that intentionally because we work with Adam. We knew about the project that he had going on on the street side. So those are basically the three key components. We applied for 2.4 million. We got 2.4 million. And we're basically wide open. You know, we obviously, we needed the ticket vending machines. We needed to move where the vending machines are now. That's, you know, just not the right place for them. We needed to make some changes. |
| 00:34:04.83 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:34:30.80 | Jim | But unless, you know, Adam and Jonathan has some different ideas, we don't have any big ideas to expand, to do any major expansion on the shore side. But we would like to end up with a facility that |
| 00:34:33.34 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 00:34:42.79 | Jim | accommodates what's happened over the past five to ten years. Our intent is to ask the city to take the lead on this project because we know that they're already working on a shoreside project and we're going to meet next week with our grants folks and just explain where the grant came from so that the city understands what sort of restrictions might be on the money and get this thing moving. |
| 00:34:48.63 | Vicki Nichols | past the city. that are already working. |
| 00:35:05.36 | Adam Politzer | Mr. Mayor and council can I just add to that? I just want to clarify that this city has been looking and has in its budget or in its capital projects schedule to look at the parking lot and the recirculation and then the pathways, improving the pathways that get pedestrians to the parking lot. Uh, through the parking lot and to the parking lot. So back in 2009, we started to have given information to the council and we've been working with the County Supervisor at the time, Charles McClashen, and we've continued to work with Supervisor Kate Sears since to look at at the circulation and and efficiencies of the parking lot and then obviously getting people on and off of the ferry. So this was really exciting news because we didn't have the budget to look at these improvements, but the improvements that we talked about over three years ago are the same type of improvements that we're talking about today. |
| 00:35:54.78 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 00:36:12.43 | Adam Politzer | and obviously we have temporary facilities now where the bikes are parked and where the lines are queuing and so it'll give us an opportunity to look at the efficiency and the circulation and make those improvements and obviously that whole process would come before the council at the beginning and then work its way through the planning commission. |
| 00:36:33.76 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:36:33.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:36:33.88 | Unknown | Thank you. All right, any more questions? |
| 00:36:38.96 | Unknown | I have a question, Mr. Mayor. Is it possible, can we get a copy, like a copy of the grant application? Were there any sketches or designs regarding the shore side piece? |
| 00:36:52.45 | Jim | I don't think we did any sketches. We may have included a general arrangement of the facility as it is today. But I'm sure that we can get it for you. Adam probably has a copy of the application. OK. I think because we wrote a letter jointly. OK, thank you. |
| 00:37:04.04 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:37:07.65 | Unknown | Okay, thank you. That would be great. |
| 00:37:09.64 | Jim | Sure. |
| 00:37:09.98 | Unknown | Thanks. |
| 00:37:10.48 | Unknown | All right. You want to go on and talk about the grant? Did you say you wanted to talk about the grant? |
| 00:37:13.64 | Jim | No, I think that's it. I think that the grant was it. Just like to maybe close by saying we had another big season. We actually added a boat very early on. We did it this time before the horse got out of the barn. And our numbers reflected it. Just looking at our numbers compared to last year, and we were up about 16,000 passengers in four or five months. A lot of that had to do with the fact that we dropped an extra boat in there and we felt it was necessary, and I'm sure Herb will attest to it. It definitely helped to quiet things down very quickly, and we're going to be looking at our schedule next year because basically it's two years in a row we've had to do that, so we need to finalize something and make sure that we go into next season with the schedule that we need. |
| 00:37:15.65 | Unknown | I'm good. |
| 00:37:16.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:37:16.05 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:37:27.39 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 00:37:27.48 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:37:27.51 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 00:37:53.74 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:37:54.07 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:38:00.32 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:38:00.38 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:38:00.40 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:38:00.53 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:38:00.55 | Unknown | Yeah. I just have a couple of suggestions to think about. |
| 00:38:04.30 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:38:04.33 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:38:04.50 | Unknown | Can we take public comment before you do that? Yes, sir. Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Jim, very much. Thank you. Appreciate it. All right. Does any member of the public wish to address the council on this issue? |
| 00:38:06.17 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:38:16.33 | Unknown | All right, see you then. See you next week. |
| 00:38:18.59 | Unknown | Yeah, and I'm sure this will go through a lot of review at the city level. So one is, you know, I think there's both the city's parking system and the coverage in that area of town could use one of those light poles. We can't put them in the city parking lot because of some ordinances here, but they could be located up. You've got to put lights on the gangway, and it could be a revenue source for both entities. However, I know the city's pretty good at negotiating those things now, so that may be an opportunity for you folks to help the city's parking system, which has a coverage gap there from a transmission standpoint. And if you're going to – I don't know what system you're going to use for the notifications of the timing of the ferry or whatever, but that may be an opportunity to camouflage it inside of a light pole. It doesn't create any further blight or view blockage. of the timing of the ferry or whatever, but that may be an opportunity to camouflage it inside of a light pole. It doesn't create any further blight or view blockage. I know some folks have talked to me about shelter. I know we've talked about it here before during rain months. I don't know how you accomplish that without |
| 00:38:31.48 | Vicki Nichols | you |
| 00:39:17.60 | Unknown | you know. problems that go along with building anything. The last point I would make is just on the mitigation front. The city certainly has some possibilities of helping you if you have mitigation needs for BCDC. There's probably some opportunities there that you can talk to the city staff and then come back to the council where we could potentially work together to offset some of the |
| 00:39:45.65 | Unknown | Great. Anyone else care to comment? |
| 00:39:47.52 | Unknown | Yeah. I want to thank Jim for the cooperation that we got this summertime. And by the way, the summer isn't over. It'll probably this time here go up to about November 1. And as well as the shelter goes, I know that We talked about this, but not only for the rainy season is it necessary, but even in the summertime because there is no shade there, and I think that's another area that we really have to cover or else they'll be sitting under the tree in the parking lot one like they do now. But thank you very much. |
| 00:40:25.81 | Unknown | But Thank you so much for your cooperation. It's great. That's great. |
| 00:40:31.52 | Unknown | All right, any other comments? |
| 00:40:33.10 | Unknown | No, other than I'd like to, yeah, I'd like to really acknowledge Sherry because Sherry works for the Golden Gate and she did a great job this year. So thank you. |
| 00:40:46.32 | Unknown | All right. Thank you again, Jim. All right, we're moving on to item 6C, which is adopt a resolution approving Transportation Authority Marin Agreement number 12, MAR 04, March 04, for Humbelt Path Improvements and authorize the city manager to execute funding agreement documents. That's going to be taught. |
| 00:41:04.29 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:41:05.18 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:41:05.22 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:41:05.55 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:41:05.64 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:41:29.72 | Todd | Okay. Thank you. So, The city, well, we have, there's grant funds all over the place, and they kind of pop out every once in a while. We had a call. Oops. |
| 00:41:46.47 | Unknown | I'm going to go back to each other. |
| 00:41:50.81 | Todd | Uh-oh. |
| 00:41:51.71 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:41:51.72 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:41:51.76 | Unknown | I kept it all in the tank, John. |
| 00:41:56.11 | Unknown | Well, it went from humble to humble. |
| 00:41:58.05 | Todd | Thank you. |
| 00:41:58.07 | Unknown | It's a humble. |
| 00:41:59.59 | Unknown | So much for the picture show. Well. |
| 00:42:00.75 | Unknown | Well, um... |
| 00:42:01.93 | Todd | Thank you. |
| 00:42:02.68 | Unknown | See the other pants, guys. See the other pants. Wow. |
| 00:42:02.98 | Todd | Thank you. |
| 00:42:03.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:42:03.74 | Todd | The other pants, wow. I'll go from memory. We have grant programs all over the place, and one reliable one is a transportation fund for clean air. There's a regional program and a local program. The local program is administered by TAM, Transportation Authority of Marin. And in the spring they put out a call for projects and we put out, we put into |
| 00:42:07.43 | Unknown | Right. |
| 00:42:07.55 | Unknown | Um... |
| 00:42:08.51 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:42:08.63 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:42:36.27 | Todd | and we got success on one. They agreed to grant us $83,000 for Thank you. a path improvement along Humboldt to help us extend what non-motorized transportation pilot program, bridgeway to ferry landings started but couldn't because of the lack of Thank you. |
| 00:42:58.65 | Unknown | of amount. |
| 00:42:59.09 | Todd | amount of projects. So this will fund only the bike path component. We don't have a lot of details about the facility. We did some cost estimating on a presumption, but that was before we knew the Ferry District had their grant and before some other things. So we need to work out the details in the coordination with the underway, lot two bathrooms, the out-to-bid, priority one, project priority one B project, which is a sewer between Spinnaker, Anchor, Humboldt, and we'll modify the pump station. and then finally we'll coordinate with the Ferry Landings grant. There's a stipulation that we need to get it done in two years, so we'll be, this agreement will kind of kick start the process and then in the next few weeks, we'll have the priority 1B before you. So we're hoping that we can get some discussions on the full scope. real soon. So to enable that, we have to execute the agreement with the Transportation Authority of Marin before you is... is the agreement, and we're recommending that you approve the agreement and then to authorize the city manager to execute on behalf of the city. |
| 00:44:37.97 | Unknown | Let's go through those slides. Thank you. |
| 00:44:49.53 | Todd | Okay. Yes. TFCA has a $4 surcharge on motor vehicle registration to to help to provide incentives for alternatives to the single occupant motor vehicle. So it's been going on since the late 80s, I believe. These are some popular programs that they support. I believe the Sally Shuttle was supported with an old TFCA grant, and there are some of the loop-like racks downtown were also supported by a TFCA grant. I mentioned the local and the regional program. The program did have 329,000 available countywide. We were successful in 83,000. This is the area that we'll be working on, basically across Humboldt to connect what was done on Anchor and what was done on Bay. |
| 00:45:41.91 | Vicki Nichols | Yeah. |
| 00:45:55.63 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:45:56.04 | Unknown | I don't want to say. |
| 00:45:57.76 | Todd | This was a graphic done at the very, very early stages of the graduated ferry landing program, and it actually is much larger. It goes to the ferry landing and it goes up to Johnson Street. |
| 00:46:02.30 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:46:02.77 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:46:12.34 | Todd | These were the projects we need to coordinate with. |
| 00:46:22.28 | Todd | Thank you. |
| 00:46:22.30 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:46:22.74 | Todd | Thank you. |
| 00:46:22.85 | Unknown | All right, any questions of time? |
| 00:46:26.62 | Unknown | Yeah, I have a question, Todd. Do you recall, and enough times past, I just don't remember, when you were two of the other two streets, that they were very parallel and they said, and we went through that whole multimedia rigmarole and Michael Rex's plan versus the city's plan. Did we settle on a plan for this street in terms of a design? I just can't recall. |
| 00:46:43.53 | Unknown | other. |
| 00:46:53.31 | Todd | I don't believe so. |
| 00:46:53.36 | Unknown | I'm not sure. |
| 00:46:55.00 | Adam Politzer | Can I respond to that? We didn't formally make an approval because we weren't asking the council to make an approval, but the process went through the Planning Commission and we had several public meetings including having this discussion at OMIT on several occasions as well. There is a, I think there is a consensus from the collective public meetings that were held that the basic plan that Todd just showed there is the preferred. As you remember, Michael Rex had the buses coming across. So everyone felt that this stayed consistent with what's there today and puts that back row path so it allows people to get off the buses, the buses to stack up as they do today with the two rows of traffic. |
| 00:47:32.06 | Unknown | All right. |
| 00:47:46.93 | Adam Politzer | And then it comes down to one row of traffic that exists today when you have the buses doubled up there and then allows pedestrians, similar to why we have this item right after the ferry landing discussion, is that we want to connect a walking path that doesn't exist. when you exit the ferry to get to the parking lot three, which is where our commuter lot is, let alone the bike traffic that for folks that are not necessarily the tourists coming off of the boat to ride home or to Mill Valley. |
| 00:48:24.12 | Unknown | Also keep in mind that Humboldt now has kind of changed because A lot of the buses are starting to advertise like the bikes where we'll take you to wine country, we'll take you to Muir Woods, bring you back into Sausalito. And you have a choice, either you can get back on the bus or you take the ferry So out of, I would say, an average in the summertime of 45 buses that come in a day, 10 of them, just specifically, just to drop people off. and they go directly right to the ferry. So it's really... And we estimate that there's somewhere around 250,000 coming by bus and shuttle. you |
| 00:49:08.58 | Unknown | you |
| 00:49:08.77 | Unknown | Thank you. And it's going to increase |
| 00:49:11.22 | Unknown | Right. And my memory of this plan was that it would require, that there was a configuration that required getting taken right away from Clipper, or not, whatever it is. Which they wouldn't agree to in negotiation with the lease. Yeah. That's people that they are. But here, so that would be required to get enough double bus, this island, and two lanes of traffic. |
| 00:49:24.65 | Todd | I'm sorry, yeah, I hope we're... |
| 00:49:39.95 | Todd | We've done a geometric assessment, and things can fit within. We've got a 60-foot right of way, which is really why. things can fit. Um, Clearly some changes would have to occur for that to happen. |
| 00:49:58.43 | Vicki Nichols | to have. |
| 00:49:59.66 | Todd | But whether we stay within the existing right of way or whether we have to widen out, we'll have to sort that out. process. |
| 00:50:08.37 | Unknown | Mr. Mayor, I have a question. Actually, I have a question for something that Council Member Weiner said. Did I hear it correctly that you said that |
| 00:50:08.39 | Todd | Thank you. |
| 00:50:17.86 | Unknown | One arrangement is that people can ride to Sausalito and leave their bikes here and, okay, good. No. Okay, good. And go to Wine Country or something. No. Okay, good. No. No. |
| 00:50:25.41 | Unknown | No. Okay. Good. No, this is just the buses. And just so you know how we've created that now, it's on Anchor Street, we put the shuttles, The large buses are over 40 feet, and we line them on Humboldt. And sometimes we'll take bait. and put shuttles there. And those are buses and shuttles that usually stay between one hour and three hours. So what we also have utilized is on Bay Street where the ice house is, That's the 22 bus for Marin County. It only comes once an hour and is there for five minutes. So what we utilize now is if the buses are coming in, are just dropping off and not staying, |
| 00:51:07.25 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:51:13.64 | Unknown | and usually everything else is full, we pull them into that slot. And it sits for 55 minutes. So we're able to move them. So they only allow five minutes to drop off, leave. And that's kind of how we work the circulation for the buses. |
| 00:51:35.51 | Unknown | All right, any more questions of time? All right, seeing none, thank you, Todd. Good presentation. When do you plan to start this? Well, I'll ask you that question later. Yeah. |
| 00:51:45.17 | Todd | Thank you. Thank you. It'll take a couple weeks for them to sign. So probably no sooner than I'm on. |
| 00:51:50.84 | Unknown | So probably no surprise. Thank you. |
| 00:51:54.78 | Todd | Thank you. |
| 00:51:54.84 | Unknown | Good. All right. Is there any public comment on this item? Does anybody care to address the council on this item? All right. Seeing none, we'll bring it back up here. Anybody have anything else to say? All right. Thanks again. |
| 00:51:55.05 | Todd | Thank you. All right. |
| 00:52:04.69 | Unknown | All right. You've got to move. |
| 00:52:07.83 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:52:08.01 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:52:08.05 | Unknown | We've got to make the motion. Oh, we've got to make the motion. That's right. |
| 00:52:08.49 | Unknown | Oh, we've got to make this Yeah. |
| 00:52:12.98 | Unknown | Amen. So, is it the funding agreement? |
| 00:52:15.96 | Unknown | Is it the funding agreement? No, the C, yeah. |
| 00:52:21.62 | Unknown | We got a resolution too. Yeah, we have a resolution. Separately? Two? No? One? |
| 00:52:22.81 | Unknown | Yeah, we have a resolution. |
| 00:52:24.18 | Todd | McKinney. Thank you. |
| 00:52:26.66 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:52:26.71 | Todd | a resolution and a funding agreement. |
| 00:52:29.19 | Unknown | Okay, so let's start with the resolution then. Do I have a motion for the resolution? the |
| 00:52:33.68 | Todd | The resolution references the agreement. So the resolution approves. One motion. |
| 00:52:33.70 | Unknown | THE RESOLUTION OF THE The resolution approves? Just one motion for the resolution referencing the agreement. |
| 00:52:37.87 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:52:38.80 | Todd | Thank you. |
| 00:52:40.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:52:40.11 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:52:41.04 | Unknown | to adopt a resolution approving the Transportation Ability of Human Agreement Number 12 March 2004 for Humboldt's Tax Improvement in the Orthodox City America to execute funding. |
| 00:52:53.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:52:54.66 | Unknown | All right, all in favor? Aye. Anyone opposed? No. |
| 00:52:56.04 | Unknown | All right. |
| 00:53:00.02 | Unknown | That concludes that. |
| 00:53:01.95 | Unknown | you |
| 00:53:02.37 | Unknown | All right, let's move on to item 6D, which is Received Status Update on Code Enforcement Efforts. And Allison Thornberry. Thank you. That's right. |
| 00:53:21.02 | Unknown | Thanks, Doug. Thank you. |
| 00:53:26.67 | Alison | Thank you. Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council Members. This evening I'm here to give you just a little update on what's been going on with code enforcement and a little bit of information on how code enforcement works here in Sausalito. So chapter Sorry. Chapter 1.10 of the Municipal Code establishes the enforcement procedures for violations of the Sausalito Municipal Code. It includes comprehensive enforcement systems using combinations of judicial and administrative remedies to gain compliance with the code regulations. Code enforcement is a multi-step process. It involves considerable time and research into investigations to determine appropriate actions. to eventually hopefully obtain compliance from businesses and members of the community. Prior to taking code enforcement actions and steps, staff has really tried to work with the community to bring awareness to certain issues that are real prevalent. We've worked with the Chamber of Commerce on numerous occasions, holding workshops regarding issues in the business community. We've held, you know, tried to collaborate with community members and residents, inviting different meetings regarding other issues. And I've started writing an article in each of the upcoming new Sausalito magazines, raising awareness to residents who don't always know of certain issues that are there, or regulations that they may not be aware of. So we try and do that before anything happens in the first place. After that, we do have steps. The first step is research and investigation. Then an initial courtesy notice goes to compliance order and eventually, if need be, administrative citations. Research investigation is the first part, and when a complaint's received, we go out into the field generally to research what's going on and happening in that area, in that neighborhood, or at that business location. The step can take a lot of time to research, especially since a lot of complaints come in and they're sort of one-time occurrences, or people know we're not here after 5.30 or 6 o'clock, and they happen in the evenings on the weekends. But we try and do our best, sending building inspector out to check things out happening during the workday, or I go out to perform investigations and work with the people hopefully first, prior to code enforcement action. The next step is initial courtesy notice. The initial courtesy notice is sent to the responsible party, which can either be the property owner, a tenant, a business owner, Um, or a combination of the three. Um, Once a violation is determined, a courtesy notice can be issued in a few different ways. Um, The first way and one of the more common ways is I actually send a letter informing the responsible party that they're in violation of one of our regulations. This is a very detailed letter explaining exactly what code section they're in violation of and how to remedy the issue, giving multiple options if there are them. Another way that happens a lot is out in the fields. the building inspector issues correction notices. That's generally for building issues. illegal construction without permits or building beyond a permit. And so those are usually handwritten and hand-delivered. Thank you. to the responsible party at the time of the violation. is when I'm out there investigating, a lot of times you run into the person who's in violation Sometimes we do verbal courtesy noticing. or emails or phone calls. Sometimes some people work better as one-on-one verbally instead of getting a letter in the mail where they feel intimidated. So verbal is the last weight. |
| 00:57:45.41 | Alison | The next step, if we don't receive compliance, we give everyone a certain amount of time to comply with the code. You know, if they're diligently working on it, we'll work with them. But if we don't hear back from someone or we check it out and nothing's changed, the next step is a compliance order. The compliance order is... A compliance order is an actual official notification. This is sent certified mail, or I hand deliver it and have them sign saying they've received Um, and it's informing that it's official notification of the violation that's occurred. And it gives them a specific amount of time they have to comply. or they can submit an application or comply with the code depending upon what the violation is. With this compliance order, we generally include any previous correspondence that we've had with the person in that. So if they've received courtesy notices or emails or correction notices, those are all included so that they have a comprehensive packet of everything they've been sent. And again, we give them a specific amount of time to comply. The next step, if they still haven't complied and they're not working to resolve the issue or the violation, are administrative citations. A first citation is $100 for the first citation. The second citation is $200, and the third citation is $500. Each day that there's a violation is a separate violation. citation. So the first day, you know, it's $100. We usually give you 10 days to comply If they haven't done that, then we send the $200. them 10 days to comply. If they haven't done that, then the $5.00. And we can issue them a $500 citation each day of violation after that. So it can eventually, it takes a while, but it can eventually add up to a a high amount of money. And hopefully, Um, By the time we usually get to the second or third citation, people know we mean business and usually come in and start complying. Um, So as part of your information tonight, you have an attached version of our tracking system. And. each and every complaint that comes into the city is tracked through that system. I track the location, any sort of correspondences, I try and track every single correspondence, every time that a citation is issued, every time a compliance order is issued, and what the next step would be. And if they've, there's a section that says whether it's resolved, whether it's continuing, or whether there was no violation in the first place. So you have that, and that includes my information for this evening, but if you have any questions, I would love to answer them. |
| 01:00:41.05 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 01:00:41.17 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:00:41.20 | Vicki Nichols | I'm going to go. |
| 01:00:41.39 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:00:41.45 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 01:00:55.39 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:00:56.61 | Unknown | I have one. Yes. What I have noticed recently is that downtown at Yitok-Chi, I think that's the name of the park, there have been people selling artwork. work, and I see that you have one here that's listed. It seems like that particular area is just growing with people who are out there to make money, and we're looking more and more like Fisherman's Wharf in the city. Are you aware that that's going on, and are the police in front of that? |
| 01:01:38.03 | Alison | that. I was more aware of it last summer as we received much more complaints, as you can see in the list, much more complaints last year regarding that. I try and go downtown as much as I can. during the week to see what's going on and check things out, have lunch, whatever it is I'm doing. The police department has been a really big help with the the peddlers and the hawking in especially that area. I've heard, especially last summer, that on a daily basis people were coming in complaining that the police department told them they had to leave. So I think we're all aware of it, and I will work harder and more diligent to try and get out there. possibly physically hand out letters informing people what our code is and that they're not allowed there. |
| 01:02:26.99 | Unknown | I wasn't suggesting that you do that, Alison. I was just suggesting that since these people are there on the weekends, and that's when they, I see them almost every weekend, that it would be appropriate to have the police chase them off, if you will, or whatever. |
| 01:02:35.55 | Alison | Thank you. |
| 01:02:47.27 | Alison | Yeah, they've been a big help in the past, so I'm sure if we talk to them about it, they'll be open to working with us again about it. Okay. Great. Thank you. |
| 01:02:55.34 | Unknown | Thank you. Just for your information on that, the police were down there this weekend, and there was a person there, but they are not selling anything. They were just displaying. There's one fellow that has the painting, but this other new source that came in this last weekend, |
| 01:03:09.14 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:03:09.46 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 01:03:16.03 | Unknown | put out quite a spread, but not selling anything. And the police were on it. |
| 01:03:21.12 | Unknown | were on it. If there was |
| 01:03:24.03 | Unknown | police were there. |
| 01:03:24.85 | Unknown | There were some people selling cookies. I know because they asked me if I wanted to buy a cookie. Well, I'm sorry. |
| 01:03:34.14 | Unknown | Well, that wasn't part of the big spread that you saw with the... |
| 01:03:34.30 | Unknown | Oh, definitely. |
| 01:03:34.73 | Unknown | that. |
| 01:03:34.93 | Unknown | . |
| 01:03:41.07 | Unknown | He called them out of facts, but he was not selling anything. In fact, you can check with the police department because we called him on that. |
| 01:03:50.59 | Unknown | Okay, the code, does it specify that they have to be selling something because that is an eyesore? Thank you. |
| 01:03:58.91 | Alison | I'd have to look through the entire code if there's something else. The specific code that we've referenced previously is the peddling and hawking section. that's just outright not permitted in the city. I have talked to many people who try and get around that, saying, oh, I'm just painting, and well, if someone likes my work, I can't help it if they take my card. We're pretty, I mean, we try and be as strict as we can when we're talking to people at the counter, |
| 01:04:09.86 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:04:16.47 | Unknown | Well, if someone |
| 01:04:25.93 | Alison | Um, and tell them, you know, if your intent is to sell your work, then it's, we consider it the same thing as selling your work, so it's not permitted But I don't know if there's anything else in the code that would address it. I'd have to look into that. ANN BALSENBAUM- If I could |
| 01:04:41.25 | Mary Wagner | If I could jump in on that also, you know, there's the constant balance between public traditional public forums and speech. and what is speech and what is not speech and what is blocking access and not blocking access. So it's a constant balancing act. THAT BOTH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER CITY PERSONNEL to engage in, you know, there's clear activity of people selling, where they're clearly exchanging goods for money and then there's various other iterations of that, somebody playing their guitar, Do they have an open guitar case in front of them or not? If they're not blocking public access and all those other things, we have to balance that. It might be time to look at our ordinance again and dust it off and see if there's a more modern approach that we haven't looked at yet. And I think that we would be happy to have that on a list somewhere if the council wants us to look at that. |
| 01:05:36.16 | Unknown | Yeah. And Mr. Mayor, if I may comment too. Allison, I guess my question was that I noticed that the person mentioned earlier about selling paintings. He or someone had taken rose petals and put all of the rose petals all over the grass area at Yitakchi Park so no one could enjoy that area. this territory. And I mean the clean up from city staff to have to go out there and clean up the rose petals and the fact that he was taking all that public space. So is there something we can do to stop that from happening again? Thank you. |
| 01:06:15.51 | Alison | I'm not positive if there's something specific in our code, but it's something I can definitely look into and talk with some of the other planners in case someone knows of an old code that I'm unaware of, and talk with the police department. They may have some sort some sort of enforcement action in the penal code or something that I'm unaware of. |
| 01:06:34.92 | Unknown | Yeah, because these were Thank you, because these were like rose pills. It seems like there should be something that if someone is taking stuff and throwing them at the |
| 01:06:44.28 | Mary Wagner | Mr. Mayor, if I can jump in again. I don't think that's really a code enforcement action. That's a you know, what are you doing on city owned property? Is it a police enforcement action? Is it something where somebody's, you know, akin to littering or leafleting or, or something like that. So I don't know that it's really a typical code enforcement as, you know, Alison going out and and handing someone a citation as it is a different kind of an enforcement action. |
| 01:07:11.69 | Adam Politzer | Can I add one other comment to that? And it's important and just a very special thank you to Alison for the work that she's doing. And I appreciate the council acknowledging that as well. But she's half time code enforcement. Her main job is here. at City Hall as an assistant planner in That by itself is a full-time job. And so we have to prioritize so when you look at the five pages or the four pages, the 50-something items listed, Each one of those is a significant amount of time. So we have to prioritize how we use Allison's time as well as the police department. Do we want them dealing with the bikes that are arguing and fighting with each other on where they're lining up and parking and how people get on the ferry, let alone, other. criminal activity that happens in town. So it's a fine balance. Balancing out. But for the council to take a look at that ordinance and dust it off, would help staff in terms of enforcement and give to the police department, especially on the weekends when Allison is not out here working, the ability to use that as a tool to do enforcement. |
| 01:08:19.96 | Unknown | Okay, I think that that wraps it up because my suggestion was for the police to take care of the issue at Yitakchi Park, and I think that's where it belongs. So hopefully we can have them take care of that and move these people along because it is unsightly. And thank you very much. You're doing a great job. Any more questions or bells? |
| 01:08:38.26 | Unknown | And so, |
| 01:08:38.44 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:08:39.79 | Unknown | All right. Any more questions? |
| 01:08:41.02 | Unknown | in general. |
| 01:08:43.82 | Unknown | Yeah, I have a couple of questions. Alison, you know, reality with the fines, how does the city actually collect these fines and what is the, you know, because they can mount up, because a lot of these projects are out for years under non-compliance. Do we actually collect these? And are we filing, you know, small claims for whatever to get the mechanism that we, put in place to allow different collection mechanisms than in the past. Are we actually collecting on these? |
| 01:09:13.32 | Alison | Um, You ready? |
| 01:09:15.62 | Unknown | and then people just disregard them. |
| 01:09:18.59 | Alison | Well, shockingly enough, most of the time when we send out a few different citations, people come in and comply. I think that we've been pretty nice in the past where As long as we got compliance, we were happy, especially some, the ones with the citations have usually been pretty big issues in a neighborhood. Since I have been here, I haven't seen us collect any citations, but I have seen compliance because of citations being issued. |
| 01:09:50.19 | Unknown | being issued. Yeah, I think you're right in general for the average person who gets one's lives. |
| 01:09:55.53 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:09:59.02 | Unknown | serial violators of everything because that's the way they do business. They just, you know, whatever, come and get me. So I think at some point you have to start collecting on these to get people to think the city actually will collect on these. |
| 01:10:12.98 | Mary Wagner | Vice Mayor Leon, I don't know how many delinquent compliance orders are out there. My assumption and guess is that there are very few And I concur. with Allison that you may be surprised at the level of compliance you get through this process that people do come in and probably the most typical that I get involved in or when they are involved planning and needing to either get a variance or remove something from the right of way or get planning approval. Those are the most typical that I'm aware of. We did have one issue recently go through the whole admin citation process where the recipient of the compliance order. appealed and we utilize an independent hearing officer. to review that with the staff in the property owner in attendance, the hearing officer found in the city's favor the, um, property owner then took it to a judicial enforcement at a traffic citation level, which is the statutory process, and it's now commencing to the next level. But you're also correct in that once we have that administrative citation, it's really a judicial code enforcement at that point that we need to turn that into that. And we would work with the council at that point on the appropriate steps to follow. If we want to take an action to bring a property into compliance with the regulations, if there's some other action that needs to be taken. So very few have risen to that that process level. since we made this change to the admin code enforcement. And again, it's just another tool in our toolbox, if you will, on enforcement. We still have the ability to seek judicial code enforcement as well and could even run them in parallel if there were truly a situation that called for it. |
| 01:12:11.57 | Unknown | Okay. Do you want more? |
| 01:12:14.80 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 01:12:16.23 | Unknown | Thank you, Alison. Great report. Finally, somebody's doing court enforcement. All right, any member of the public care to comment on this item? |
| 01:12:25.65 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:12:26.10 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:12:26.20 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:12:26.42 | Unknown | you All right. I'm bringing back a three. Do you have a comment? Yeah, I just think that |
| 01:12:29.27 | Unknown | Yeah, I just think that Allison does a great job, and as Adam mentioned, she's only, she does this as part of her job, and Kenneth actually, they work together on different aspects, as you said. But I think one of the things that came up both through this discussion is I think maybe one thing for you and Allison and Jeremy to talk about is maybe because we have more turnover at, and since the chief left, I can talk about the place there. So at the younger officers that come in, they kind of turn over more frequently, and those are the guys that respond on the weekends and sometimes during the day to some of these |
| 01:12:30.42 | Vicki Nichols | you |
| 01:13:03.43 | Unknown | And a lot of times, not a lot, but every once in a while, I'll get some comment from somebody, well, the police officer told me this. And it's obvious they don't know what they're talking about. It's not their job, right, to know that. But there may be some education at some of the more frequent things that they get called out on that just so they know, okay, here's, I don't need to know this much about code enforcement, but I need to know this much about these more frequent issues. So when I'm out in the field and I get called on this, I know I can say these three things without them, without getting in trouble and for them running down to City Hall on Monday say, well, the cops said I have to do, I can do these three things. So I get those every once in a while and I think that would be, help you out too at the end of the day, so that everybody's on the sort of same page. So that would be a good sort of cross communication thing. And I did, you know, to, rose petal thing, I don't know when the coastal cleanup was, I think it was last weekend or the weekend before. I put my stuff for the volunteers. The painter guy took my stuff because I had to talk to you every year to |
| 01:13:27.53 | Vicki Nichols | What up? |
| 01:13:50.55 | Vicki Nichols | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:14:10.39 | Unknown | to where Carolyn lives. And he took my stuff and moved it out of the way so they could plant his stuff and, you know, show his work. So not much, you know, there was stuff for the volunteers that take out trash bags and stuff like that. So there is this territorial fight that I got in the park that's bizarre. I don't know. |
| 01:14:10.64 | Vicki Nichols | Mayor Karen. |
| 01:14:28.19 | Unknown | All right. Any other comments? All right. See none. We'll move on. Thank you very much. Allison, again. Thank you. All right, would Item 7E, authorized deed restrictions necessary to secure the grant funds, state grant funds for the work at MLK, Jim, Parks and Recreation Center, and Harrison Park? |
| 01:14:46.55 | Jonathon Goldman | Well, good evening, Mr. Mayor and council members. It's a pretty simple thing here, hopefully, as we go through it. So probably we'll get out of here a little early today, depending on the city manager report. |
| 01:15:00.73 | Unknown | Whoa. When's this review? Yeah. |
| 01:15:04.12 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 01:15:04.36 | Unknown | When is his review? |
| 01:15:06.03 | Jonathon Goldman | . |
| 01:15:06.72 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:15:06.97 | Jonathon Goldman | . |
| 01:15:07.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:15:08.69 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 01:15:09.11 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:15:09.28 | Jonathon Goldman | Yeah. So back in 2002, the voters of the state of California approved a bond act. They approved a couple of them. They approved another one back in 2000, actually, but we've spent all that money. So we're just talking about the one here in 2002. The city got $239,970 for park and recreation facility improvements. Now, over the years, we've been working on a lot of things. Originally, we kind of stalled on those. It was before my time, but the thought was to use all the money for Dunphy Park. When we decided that we weren't going to do that, we got involved here, did more projects. We've done things with the basketball courts. We did things at Marin Ship Park. We've done things down at the recreation center all this time. The grants were actually set to expire. They actually expired a few times. The state automatically just renewed them because the grants were bonds that were issued and said that they could only be used for park and recreation improvements. So the state didn't know what to do with the money. I guess they didn't want to keep it with that other 57 million they had. So they gave it back to us and let us keep using it. There was never any change in contracts or any really no changes, just extending the date that we had to comply. Thank you. Recently, with this latest one that just expired, they decided to make some changes. What had happened with some of the previous grants that they gave out is they gave grants out to some cities and agencies. They rehabbed a gym or a rec center or bought property or even built a brand new building and then due to budget cuts closed it. So the state wasn't too happy with that. They said, no, if you're going to use our money to build something, we want to make sure it stays open and it stays open to the public for the use that it was intended. So what they've asked now is for us to, if we want to continue to use the grant funds that are available. which is the... $48,287, and that's dedicated towards Harrison Park. I've got my numbers here incorrect. Well, we've got $48,287. grant funds for Harrison Park. We also have funds for the MLK Gym and the Recreation Center. If we would like to use those funds as they are currently allocated, or actually allocated at all, we need to do a grant restriction on the property, basically saying that we will not change the use of the property for 20 years. So that's why I'm here before you today is to present this and authorize the city manager to sign the contract with the state to get the deed restriction done. |
| 01:17:48.55 | Unknown | Okay. I have a question for you. Thank you. Yeah, I've been mulling over the deed restriction issues, as you know, for the last couple of I don't have a problem with the park and with the facility, but I have a problem with the MLK. What I'd like to have happen there, I've already said this to Mary, but I'll say it to you too, is to try to limit the... the deed restriction, to that specific building and its footprint in some described way so that we don't end up with a squabble of the state over the other parts of MLK which are not necessarily park and are being used for other uses of schools and so on. |
| 01:18:24.49 | Vicki Nichols | building. |
| 01:18:39.85 | Unknown | So I think we found a little bit of wiggle room language in one of the five issues there that you may be able to take to apply to that, but I really want to work hard to limit that. |
| 01:18:49.52 | Jonathon Goldman | Yeah, part of what we have to give them is a map detailing the area. So if I could suggest that we describe the area in detail, use an aerial photo, and color it and say that this applies to this portion. |
| 01:18:54.18 | Unknown | So... |
| 01:19:00.64 | Unknown | the supplies for this portion. And make that a separate exhibit so that it's very clear that it's just that building we're talking about. Yes. Okay. |
| 01:19:05.67 | Jonathon Goldman | Yes. |
| 01:19:05.99 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:19:06.43 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:19:06.51 | Unknown | Thank you. Yes. |
| 01:19:07.59 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:19:08.72 | Unknown | It doesn't say, Mary, in the language of the restriction, any use You know, it just says they have to be able to get in. |
| 01:19:18.02 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:19:18.29 | Unknown | those five things, it doesn't really... First of all, I don't know how you can deep restrict a property you don't own, but that's another question altogether, and I don't know the answer to that. So maybe the state can, and that's great. But it just basically says, and it requires those five conditions, right? That they have to be able to get in, that they have to be able to have remedies. I don't know how the taxes apply to public property, and it has this long duration of 20 years, but it doesn't actually say anything about the, at least in this thing. |
| 01:19:55.89 | Mary Wagner | That's in the exhibit where it refers in the recital to exhibit B and those conditions also in there, that it's the purpose for which the funds were given. The other part of it is that if there were truly |
| 01:20:06.50 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 01:20:11.57 | Mary Wagner | you know, a restriction put on the gym, for example, at MLK, and it was for $11,000 worth of improvements. If for some reason the city decided within that 20-year period that it was no longer going to utilize it, |
| 01:20:16.95 | Vicki Nichols | for |
| 01:20:25.84 | Mary Wagner | we may have to pay the state back to remove the restriction because that's the intent of what they're requiring, why they're requiring that we do this. They're not left in a situation where they've granted funds out for a particular purpose and then been left without them. |
| 01:20:29.42 | Unknown | Right. And I assume that they're true right now. |
| 01:20:31.58 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:20:39.85 | Unknown | been left without them. |
| 01:20:42.35 | Mary Wagner | Yeah, we need to make that more clear. Yeah, there's always a little bit of difficulty when an entity like the state is giving you money. and tells you what you have to do They're often Um, It's often somewhat difficult to get any modifications to those documents because there's a formulaic way in which they approach it. and working through staff to get to the appropriate level to get those approvals can be difficult and they view it as we're giving you our money if you want it. Thank you. |
| 01:21:13.26 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:21:13.51 | Mary Wagner | here's the hoop through which you need to jump. And we've run into that on many different levels, with federal funding agreements, with county agreements, with state agreements, |
| 01:21:16.33 | Unknown | RUN INTO THE BUSINESS. |
| 01:21:23.05 | Mary Wagner | But we will work to ensure that it's as limited as possible, and if we can't get to a comfort level I would suggest we would come back to you and say we need to make a judgment call on whether we want this particular portion of money for this use with this level of an issue on it. |
| 01:21:39.10 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:21:39.16 | Unknown | How much is the grant to the |
| 01:21:41.43 | Unknown | Thank you. So, we use 20, where is that spreadsheet thing? Thank you. |
| 01:21:48.50 | Jonathon Goldman | I can add to what Mary was saying. I've been working with the state going back and forth on this, and I find it difficult that nobody's asked some of these questions that we're asking, such as what happens if we decide to repurpose the facility? I gave her the example of here the Park and Rec Center downstairs. I said, what if somebody comes in tomorrow? |
| 01:21:50.99 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:21:53.81 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:22:00.81 | Vicki Nichols | Right. |
| 01:22:06.23 | Jonathon Goldman | and gives me a check and says build a new rec center. She said, well, I don't know, but I think you probably just have to pay the money back. |
| 01:22:13.28 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:22:13.81 | Jonathon Goldman | So I took that. But the forums are very boilerplate. She even is coming back to me and has a suspicion that instead of the 20 years, it's only going to be 10 years. But that was last week when they talked to me and they still haven't gotten back to me yet. |
| 01:22:14.70 | Unknown | I don't know. |
| 01:22:24.02 | Unknown | but Thank you. |
| 01:22:27.68 | Unknown | There's something different. |
| 01:22:28.00 | Unknown | or something different. Mr. Mayor, I have a question. |
| 01:22:29.48 | Unknown | Yeah, this is Exhibit B. I asked for it today. Mr. Mayor? My read, let me just finish. My read of Exhibit B is that it requires that you use the project for that. If not, the state can revoke the grant. But it doesn't talk about how it revokes it or penalties or, I guess, so they wouldn't have any penalties. But it doesn't talk about it's pro rata or you have to pay the original amount back. It just mumbles. So, I mean... or like I said, they wouldn't have any penalties, but it doesn't talk about prorata or you have to pay the original amount back. It just mumbles. So I mean, the amounts of money here are not big enough to probably flip-flop, but it would be great to get a letter out of them or at least send a letter to them that said here is our understanding of the way these grants read and the way the revocation reads, and we understand that we can, on a prorated basis, pay you back if our needs change on this particular Thank you. here is our understanding of the way these grants read and the way the revocation reads, and we understand that we can, on a prorated basis, pay you back if our needs change on this particular item over the 20-year period or something like that. Yeah. And maybe they'll stick it in the file, maybe they won't, but we'll have it. |
| 01:22:33.60 | Unknown | you Mr. Mayor. |
| 01:23:01.75 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:23:04.53 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 01:23:04.70 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:23:04.94 | Vicki Nichols | but it would be great to get a letter. |
| 01:23:21.66 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:23:25.73 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, let me comment on this. why this is probably complicated for And when you look at the attachment one, or I think it's attachment one, where it lists all the projects. The original intent of these funds were for parks, which people felt 20 years was not a big deal. |
| 01:23:49.90 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:23:50.38 | Adam Politzer | what cities have done uh, almost across the state of California, is try to maximize the benefit and use them for facilities, which are also in parks, but for this case, replacing windows, repairing roofs, repairing floors, putting up windscreens. That technically wasn't its initial purpose. But luckily, I think that the state has recognized that these facilities are essential to providing recreational services so they have allowed this and we can't receive these monies without the state saying yes, this falls into the scope. But I don't want, you know, I understand what the direction And the questions are and they're excellent and I believe that both Mike and the city attorney will craft language in a letter going out to narrow of this risk. |
| 01:24:49.84 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 01:24:49.87 | Unknown | Chris. |
| 01:24:50.44 | Adam Politzer | but I just wanted to make sure that we don't lose the focus of what the original intent was. |
| 01:24:56.59 | Unknown | Yeah, let me ask a question. Have we ever de-restricted our properties to the state before on this basis? |
| 01:25:05.65 | Mary Wagner | Yeah, not on this basis, but on a different case, which is the Sausalito Marine acquisition. That property is restricted. based on the grant that we received from the State Lands Commission. It wasn't the Coastal Commission. It's going to escape me, but it's always a little different than it's. In any event, when we receive monies from the state, there's a restriction on that property, on its use. It's not the same as this, and I'm not aware of a situation where we've put this kind of park restriction on. |
| 01:25:38.00 | Unknown | Thank you. Can you repurpose these for strictly park? Because we have funded some strictly park things in our budget that we could, you know, that definitely park, but whether it's Harrison Park or the province maybe right here and take money out of it on the screen and use it for the ceiling tiles rather than worry about de-restricting the MLK property. Is that possible or is that underground of your honesty that you're not going to be able to do that? |
| 01:26:01.81 | Adam Politzer | I think. All right. I've said this before, we live in America and everything's possible, correct? The problem is that we've already gone through the process. We've already gone through the approval process, so we have money in hand. |
| 01:26:05.60 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:26:13.60 | Unknown | No, I'm asking about if they're re-upping these approvals, are they for specific projects or can you substitute a pure part project for a facility project? |
| 01:26:28.30 | Unknown | you |
| 01:26:29.33 | Jonathon Goldman | We'd have to go through the approval process again, but I believe we could say, take, get rid of the, you know, in answer to your previous question, I'm at the point now where I have to do the take my glasses on and off thing. Wasn't like that last year. $48,287 for Harrison Park. |
| 01:26:41.60 | Vicki Nichols | It wasn't. year. |
| 01:26:42.64 | Unknown | 48. |
| 01:26:48.52 | Jonathon Goldman | $20,047 for the rec center. $27,819 for the ceiling tiles at the gym. We could take It would take some work working with the state, but we could take the rec center tiles and the ceiling gym tile money and repurpose that towards Harrison Park. The thing that we need to do is make sure that we expend this money. The deadline to have all the paperwork in is 2015, but they're really looking to have all the work done within the next year. |
| 01:27:17.22 | Unknown | you |
| 01:27:18.55 | Jonathon Goldman | So if council wishes, I could come back and I could talk to the state and redo that. |
| 01:27:20.63 | Unknown | I could talk to the state and redo that. It's an option rather than having a big, you know, to send them a mental care if you send them a letter. That's not my game on the state. So it's just if you'd rather, I don't really care so much about the rec center. I mean, you're not going to sell this building any time soon in terms of de-districting it as far as I know. Unless Mike has some things. But the MLK property, who knows what will happen to that since you don't have a long-term plan test next year, right, so for that property. So... Mr. Mayor, may I ask you a question? |
| 01:27:41.37 | Unknown | I guess. |
| 01:27:57.45 | Unknown | Mr. Mayor, may I ask a question? |
| 01:27:58.92 | Unknown | Any question? |
| 01:28:01.50 | Unknown | So would it be possible for us to look at the way that MLK, that property is defined under, what is it, the ordinance 1152 or something and |
| 01:28:12.71 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:28:13.89 | Unknown | Would we be linked to just MLK, the use of the gym, or could we use that, like a broader community, service or something. |
| 01:28:25.89 | Jonathon Goldman | Those are two different. The ordinance says that any change has to go to a vote of the people. This would be saying that for 20 years you cannot change the use of the gym, and that would be no matter what the vote of the people. |
| 01:28:29.51 | Unknown | That's... changes. |
| 01:28:41.44 | Unknown | OK, so I'm sorry. My question was that, so it has to be defined as a gem. It's got to be, it can't be a broader |
| 01:28:41.48 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. See. |
| 01:28:51.76 | Unknown | kind of scope. |
| 01:28:53.49 | Jonathon Goldman | It's a deed restriction on the property, but as Mike Kelly was saying too, outline just the gym so we don't get locked up with anything else. |
| 01:28:59.30 | Unknown | Jim. |
| 01:29:03.36 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:29:03.38 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:29:03.75 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:29:03.77 | Unknown | Thank you. I've got problems with this. I just read the deed restriction. It's irrevocable, period. The state has specific performance. You can't pay it off. |
| 01:29:05.49 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:29:15.52 | Unknown | I just quickly read it, so I would defer to you, of course. |
| 01:29:19.13 | Mary Wagner | Yeah, I mean, we would go back to them and try and work through all these issues with your direction on that. |
| 01:29:21.76 | Unknown | issues with your direction. For $27,000, I can't see putting an irrevocable deed restriction for 20 years on the MLK property. I just, it's just against my religion. |
| 01:29:30.26 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:29:30.28 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:29:30.40 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 01:29:31.87 | Unknown | you I think the idea, Mr. Mayor, I think the idea of switching the monies around is a good one. And so that we don't have to worry about whether it, what we're going to do with in the future. Let's put it on a park. Let's put it up at Harrison Park and make that switch and be done with it. |
| 01:29:33.44 | Unknown | Thank you. I think the idea. |
| 01:29:46.48 | Vicki Nichols | Okay. |
| 01:29:47.04 | Jonathon Goldman | Mayor, |
| 01:29:47.49 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 01:29:50.72 | Jonathon Goldman | The issue that would come up with that is that currently there are no, we're taking money from the rec center downstairs and putting it in a park. There are no monies in the park to take over to the rec center, so those other two projects would be unfunded. I wasn't suggesting that. |
| 01:29:50.73 | Unknown | Thank you. the issue. Thank you. |
| 01:30:01.75 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:30:01.77 | Unknown | Oh, no, I'm not. REC Center. |
| 01:30:08.98 | Unknown | I wasn't suggesting that you take it off the rec center, but MLK. Okay. Yeah. And so if we do have that ability, let's just simplify it and not have that need on MLK. |
| 01:30:13.11 | Jonathon Goldman | Okay. |
| 01:30:19.45 | Unknown | have that heat on NLK.. |
| 01:30:24.95 | Unknown | Okay, let me – I haven't said all that. Let's take – let's see if there's any public comment. Any other questions? Okay, anybody in the public want to comment on this? All right, seeing none, I'll bring it back up here. My preference would be to approve Harrison and the parking rec facility and to charge you with doing something that relieves the burden of a 30 or 20-year deed restriction irrevocable and so on, however you do it. If you can't do it, I'd vote to just let the money go. Thank you. |
| 01:31:04.68 | Unknown | you instead of trying to shift it. Well, no. I mean, yeah, do all you can. |
| 01:31:06.74 | Unknown | Well, no. I mean, yeah, do all you can. Do everything you can to save the money, move it around, push it here, push it there, take off the deed restriction, whatever. But at the end of the day, if it won't work... |
| 01:31:13.40 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:31:13.45 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 01:31:13.56 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:31:13.66 | Mary Wagner | But at the end of the day, |
| 01:31:16.05 | Unknown | take the money on the other two and let's move on. That's my suggestion. |
| 01:31:20.41 | Mary Wagner | And are you comfortable restricting the rec facility here? |
| 01:31:20.52 | Unknown | you can |
| 01:31:25.01 | Unknown | I don't think I have a problem. |
| 01:31:26.47 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:31:27.27 | Unknown | Thank you. That seems pretty clear. Just too many moving parts on MLP to put that much of a burden on a tiny piece of property. |
| 01:31:28.96 | Mary Wagner | I need to get up there. |
| 01:31:33.77 | Unknown | a tiny little piece of property. Male Speaker 2, Jr.: Probably depends on the library somewhere to go eventually. The library's going to take over there. There you go. And there's been talk about making |
| 01:31:38.66 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:31:38.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:31:38.85 | Unknown | There you go. And there's been talk about making the gym different and all that stuff. Yeah, more than ever happens, who knows. But I just don't want to burden us with that for that paltry amount of money. You're talking about a million? Okay. But we're not. Okay. Okay. |
| 01:31:48.27 | Unknown | You're talking about a million? Thank you. |
| 01:31:52.42 | Jonathon Goldman | Okay. So any other project? With the exception of Harrison Park, as you would approve that, I will need to come back with a deed restriction. approved the deed restriction this evening, we take the funds that are for MLK in this report, move them to Harrison, there will already be a deed restriction in place so we will not need to come back to Council on that. |
| 01:32:10.96 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 01:32:10.98 | Unknown | in this report moved in All right. I don't need to come back to council on that. All right. You want to make that motion for me? |
| 01:32:18.46 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:32:20.84 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. So, Well, you know what it is? that I, the, I would look in your budget and talk to Jonathan, because you have budget in his budget for the CIP for Harrison and Robin Sweeney and see if you can. I think the shift thing is your way to go, because as you know, the Playland thing is a cash machine, right? And people stop me on the street and ask me for directions on the weekends when I'm walking with the kids, because they assume if I have a kid, I know where Playland is. Which I do, because I've known her many times. Thank you. on the street asking me for directions on the weekends when I'm walking with the kids because they assume if I have a kid I know where Playland is. So, which I do because I know. I know where Playland is. Yeah, people love that. It's a great use of that gym when it's not being used for other things. So, you know, that needs to be maintained because it's |
| 01:33:00.31 | Unknown | which I do because I've got intermittent. I know where Playland is. |
| 01:33:11.85 | Unknown | it gets a lot of use, as you know. So if there's a way to make it all work, where you're moving the money around, but you're using it for the right purposes without having to go through the bureaucratic process for a whole other application site. It's not worth, for $27,000, it's not worth your time, your time, his time to spend weeks churning paper with the state because it takes you away from other stuff. So if there's an easy way to do it, great. If there's not, then just use what you can and let it go, you know. |
| 01:33:33.60 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 01:33:33.64 | Unknown | There's an easy way. USE. |
| 01:33:40.22 | Unknown | Some other community may have much more need |
| 01:33:40.37 | Unknown | Okay. So let me make a motion. I move that we pass a resolution and authorizing the city manager to sign the deed restrictions necessary to secure the straight grant funds for work on the Parks and Rec Center and Harrison Park and to modify or shift funds under the grant from the MLK gym, formerly for the MLK gym to other areas, either Harrison Park or the MLK facility, if you can't achieve some modification of the restrictions. |
| 01:33:54.78 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 01:34:02.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:34:17.05 | Unknown | Okay. All right. Having said all that. I second. |
| 01:34:18.89 | Unknown | I second. I would say that for either one of these, actually. If you can move this $47,000, you can move this $47,000. |
| 01:34:20.21 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:34:26.59 | Unknown | to another use and move money out of the CIP into the ceiling tiles because it's basically for the rec center for both projects. It's another way to see the city halls. |
| 01:34:31.60 | Mary Wagner | Go. |
| 01:34:34.70 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:34:34.77 | Unknown | you |
| 01:34:34.82 | Unknown | City Halls. |
| 01:34:35.78 | Unknown | However, |
| 01:34:36.17 | Unknown | However they can do it. It's kind of simple when you're doing the same things just with time. So the flexibility to do it in a way, but the end result is that MLK cannot receive a deed restriction. |
| 01:34:36.78 | Unknown | However they can do it. |
| 01:34:38.20 | Unknown | and you're doing the same things just with Sorry. |
| 01:34:47.12 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:34:47.14 | Unknown | And whether it all goes to Harrison or Robins-Breeny, that's up to you guys in terms of what's in the budget and if you had to go through the re-application process. That's a little advantage. Without a lot of brain damage. Yeah. Okay. |
| 01:34:49.03 | Unknown | because of that. there. |
| 01:34:55.72 | Unknown | without a lot of brain damage. Okay. All right, we got a motion? I'll second. You second. I second. So, all in favor? Aye. Anyone opposed? |
| 01:34:58.48 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:34:59.60 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:34:59.63 | Unknown | you |
| 01:34:59.70 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:34:59.83 | Unknown | I'll second. |
| 01:35:01.28 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:35:01.47 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:35:01.62 | Unknown | I care. |
| 01:35:02.06 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:35:02.11 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:35:03.61 | Unknown | All right. |
| 01:35:04.07 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:35:05.82 | Unknown | Debbie, is that clear enough, or do you need to understand that? Yeah, I feel muddled. You got to. You got to. |
| 01:35:08.54 | Unknown | Thank you. GOT THERE. OKAY. NUMBER SEVEN. YEAH, THANKS, MIKE. NUMBER SEVEN IS 7A, CITY MANAGER INFORMATION FOR THE COUNCIL AND ALREADY BEEN CHASTIZED BY HIS OWN STAFF MEMBER. MY, MY. |
| 01:35:28.06 | Adam Politzer | Well, since our Parks and Recreation Director didn't take the opportunity to plug |
| 01:35:28.10 | Unknown | since |
| 01:35:32.89 | Adam Politzer | the chili cook-off and the other events coming up here in September and October. I'll do that for them. Obviously, one of the... Well-loved local events and really a local event is the chili cook-off that comes up on the 30th of this month. I understand that we have in the teens, is it 14 chili booths? |
| 01:35:58.19 | Unknown | Uh, |
| 01:35:58.46 | Adam Politzer | you and that's outstanding. There was a time there in the middle of the 2000s that I think we were down to six. |
| 01:36:04.41 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:36:05.04 | Adam Politzer | Two of them might have been city booths. with just canned chili. But letting out the secrets. They didn't win, I can guarantee you that. |
| 01:36:11.84 | Unknown | But letting out the secrets. |
| 01:36:14.15 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 01:36:16.36 | Unknown | Thank you. Uh... |
| 01:36:17.27 | Adam Politzer | But I really do hope that the community comes out and really enjoys this event and that the weather continues to cooperate the way that it is. It should be just a fantastic day. So please share this with your friends and your supporters out there to make an effort to be there because I think it's great. What else comes forward is Fleet Week, which is not far off, and one of the exciting events that connected to it was the Blue Angels. And the practicing with the Blue Angels do prior to the actual event over the Marina Greens and the Golden Gate Bridge and the rest of the Bay Area. But with that comes a lot of folks, a lot of people into our town and as Councilmember Weiner mentioned earlier, summer still feels like it's in full swing, especially on the with the bike so I would imagine that we'll still have a busy time. Thank you. I hope that you and many of the residents got to celebrate and participate with the flying over of the space shuttle in Denver. It was very exciting for the folks that were with me down at the ferry landing because it flew right over San Francisco, right over Sausalito, right over our town. and we got an up close personal experience there which is part of history and very exciting. something worth noting and celebrating. uh, Halloween. is also right around the corner, and Halloween to me kicks off an accelerated November and December with all the holidays and and special events and family activities. So before you know it, you're there at New Year's Eve wondering what happened to 2012. But as a reminder, and I'm sure that you will hear from Aaron in the Park and Rec Department on asking the council, either individually or collectively, to have a table there to hand out candies and treats and various toys and what have you. But again, another terrific community gathering celebration. that's mostly attended by our local residents here. and supported by many of the non-profits and local businesses. |
| 01:38:47.51 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:38:48.77 | Adam Politzer | You heard tonight from Todd Teachout on the Bridgeway to Ferry landing improvement on Humboldt, and most of the discussion was had there, but just really wanted to remind folks, that, We started this process back in 2008 and 2009 to really look at the improvements to the downtown area And going back to when I started in 2007, September of 2007, and adopting with the council's support the back to the basics, which is fix what we have and improve areas that need improvement. And obviously the parking lots being repaved and restriped was on that list from the very onset, but looking at the impacts from both the buses and the pedestrians and the bicyclists looking at how they utilize the downtown sidewalks and parking areas, both for bikes and for cars. It's been a pretty comprehensive process. But we're still, for everyone's clarification at the beginning, we still haven't come forward with any real hard designs that we think should come to the council for their approval. and then their direction to take it through the Planning Commission So, you know, similar to the downtown restroom, it's evolving. But I think that we have A lot of information that's been very valuable. and obviously our partnership with the Golden Gate Ferry and Jim Schwindler has reaped some real fruit at $2.4 million worth of fruit. and that's real money to make real improvements for an area that we really didn't have a lot of money to spend. We had some money for repaving and restriping but really not the money to do the sidewalks. The two sidewalks on Anchor and bay, cost is in the neighborhood of $250,000. So to just make improvements to the sidewalk on Humboldt, the two sidewalks on Humboldt Street and look at adding a sidewalk from the ferry landing to Anchor Street inside the parking lot there, you can get to a half a million dollars very, very quickly. just with those two improvements, let alone circulation, and parking. As Jonathan Goldman, our Public Works Director, continues to give you pretty regular updates of where we are, where the CIP and coordinating the efforts with sewer projects and street projects and the other projects that come forward It's a good opportunity to make sure that your notes are kind of keeping in mind sequence of these things and ask that. clarification. on the sequence and the timing and then the process itself. so that there is a clear understanding both with the council and the folks that you communicate with in the public to make sure that when we actually start the process, that folks have been educated and aware of the process. And I think that it was important that Jim, you know, Jim has also come forward, Jim Swimler has also come forward on numerous occasions to kind of gauge our desires, our feedback on what type of float we would support, what are some of the needs, and again, them having a what he's calling an open house here later, I think it's later this month or the beginning of next month, I think it was October 2nd if I recall correctly. You know, it's very good. Thank you. announced here later, I think it's later this month or the beginning of next month, I think it was October 2nd if I recall correctly. You know, it's very good and we'll put that out in the currents and make sure that the public is invited to come and see what's being discussed because I think they talked about in the neighborhood of 14 to 14. $12 to $15 million of waterside improvements. It's significant. And some of the suggestions that came from the council tonight which were... similar suggestions that came before to kind of look at the shelter, look at the aesthetics so that we're making improvements and not having an impact. I think their original plan was to have multiple ticket machines because that's part of the problem with the congestion up there is how do people get their tickets and get back into line or get back into enjoying the community. but because we've been working successfully with the ferry and the bike companies on reservations, and pre-selling tickets and looking at online opportunities for people to purchase their tickets hopefully will make it even more efficient and effective. But again, just an outstanding relationship My Thanks to Councilmember Weiner our police chief and our public works director, they definitely nurture and work on that relationship and work to find solutions down there. And I think that was ultimately that helped us lead to receiving $2.4 million And. $12 to $15 million on the water side. as he shared. widening that Uh, the float and the ramps leading to the float We'll also take... um, potentially the estimate now 150 people off of the sidewalk, off of the of the land side of where people are queuing up and lining up now, And that's a significant amount of people and a reduction in congestion and impacts on the land side. So very exciting. You look at, we talked about the bulkhead, we're near the point where we'll have the ribbon cutting ceremony. The downtown restroom project is coming along nicely. We've obviously made the improvements today in Anchor Street. So you can see this area over the next two, three, four years. really evolve and get a facelift and be improved and be a good representation to our guests when they come off the ferry or to our residents that want to use the downtown So I think that we're going in an excellent direction there to make these improvements. Just a few other items here. The police department continues to work with the county on the homeless challenges and the challenges that our anchor routes face. And as we come into the winter months, this is when we see the services on land that become even more critical. So we'll keep you posted on that, but I want you not to lose sight. of this effort and I bring this up because last night at MCCMC, speaker, which was a very powerful speaker to talk about her personal Um, travels with addiction and homelessness. One of the comments that she made that means a lot to me and is something that I've advocated for since I've been in public service is that one of the comments she made was how invisible she felt. Here was a young girl that grew up in San Rafael, went to Marin Catholic High School, And at the age of 16, decided to drop out and live the life of alcohol and cocaine. and found herself on the streets of San Rafael, and then eventually on the streets of the Tenderloin. Um, And after a long time, battle of of denial and her parents trying to help her, but she had to to help herself. before anyone was able to help her, she hit rock bottom. And she reported last night 19 years of being sober and now is running a very successful intervention program for all ages but with a specific concentration for families with kids with similar problems. But what she said was that going through this process, being homeless, she felt invisible. People would walk past you and not. actually see you because you just became part of the fabric of the community. or just another fixture along the sidewalk as we walked. And so as the county is looking to end the homeless in the next 10 years with their program, and work towards that solution. And we work with our anchor outs that Thank you. that serve at the capacity of our homeless community. It's important to look at what tools and resources that we can help provide to them, especially during the winter months. You know that Robin Sweeney works with a coalition of churches to have folks take to various meals throughout the county, especially here in Southern Marin. Our churches have their food pantries and meal programs that are also very much appreciated and supported by residents here in our community. So it's just a reminder as we go into what becomes a real exciting and happy family time with Halloween and Thanksgiving and the winter holidays, you know, that we recognize that we have the ability as county officials, city officials working in a county to help make life for others less fortunate better and help them get on a road that she found herself on, the speaker, last night. to recovery. And so that's my public service announcement. Thank you very much. The last thing that I wanted to put on this list is just again a reminder that on October 5th we'll be having our strategic planning retreat and we'll have it at the fire station here as we did the time before. So that's a Friday, so please put that as a priority on your calendar. and we will get information out to you as soon as we can. And as we've done in the past, Michelle Murphy will reach out to you and just check in with you to see if there's anything that's important to you as we go through the process, just as she's done in the past. That concludes my report. Happy to answer any questions from the council. |
| 01:49:24.52 | Unknown | Any questions of Adam? |
| 01:49:25.84 | Adam Politzer | you know. |
| 01:49:26.89 | Unknown | Okay. Thank you, Adam. And now we're on to future agenda items. future agenda items. Thank you. |
| 01:49:39.37 | Unknown | Amen. |
| 01:49:39.95 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:49:40.74 | Unknown | I would like to get on the, on your coastal cleanup, my question to you was, what was the most popular item that you picked up? |
| 01:49:49.58 | Unknown | Vicky. Vicky. |
| 01:49:51.14 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:49:53.92 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:49:53.94 | Unknown | Okay, what I really would like to bring on the next agenda is we really need ashtrays downtown. We really do. It's time. Along the water. |
| 01:50:01.60 | Unknown | Amen. |
| 01:50:05.56 | Adam Politzer | That wouldn't be an agenda item. That is a budget item to talk about how do you want to collect, what type of facilities do you want to collect those. I can check with the public works director and Lauren Numbertis, the division manager of maintenance, and we can see if we have any plans in place to collect those. |
| 01:50:10.14 | Unknown | talk for |
| 01:50:25.21 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. that can accommodate that type of request and also work with Bay City's Refuge and see if there are any answers. And we can come back and report on that. at a later date but probably not something that we would put onto the council's agenda. |
| 01:50:41.03 | Unknown | as long as we are aware of it. |
| 01:50:43.18 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 01:50:43.19 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:50:43.47 | Unknown | Well, you |
| 01:50:44.41 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:50:44.60 | Unknown | Thank you. Well, you have many, many visitors. If you look, 70% of the rental bikes are made up of French, Italian, and German. |
| 01:50:49.64 | Unknown | you know. |
| 01:50:58.50 | Unknown | And they all smoked. Not all, but a good majority. And I'd like to capture that before. And if they have the opportunity to put it in something rather than throw it on the ground, I think it's up to us to facilitate that. Thank you. |
| 01:51:12.66 | Unknown | and Mr. Mayor. If we could have a future agenda item looking, I know we've discussed the intersection of Alexander and South before, but it's so dangerous if we could take another look at that or see if there are any types of strategies we could do. Um... to to, you know, for traffic calming or to try and just any kind of update. |
| 01:51:41.78 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, I think the update would be the action that would come out of a request like that, and it's already on the public works director's list of things to come back to the council. And there are just that whole area, not down on Bridgeway, but that whole area we've talked about restriping and taking a look at some of the low-hanging fruit that don't have a lot of significant costs. one of the things that Todd teach out and Jonathan restriping and taking a look at some of the low hanging fruit that don't have a lot of significant costs. One of the things that Todd, Teachout, and Jonathan are working on right now and the mayor to some degree is that TAM looks like they have another $5 million that they're going to be looking for projects. Now TAM has taken the liberty to take in the neighborhood of $4.9 million of that $5 million. Uh, and so we'll be competing for some opportunities there. Mike is the representative of the council on there and has offered to reach out to their executive director. And I'm confident that Jonathan and Todd will be successful in, again, arguing for our needs. So that particular intersection that you're talking about is on our list, and we will be competing for funds, but we'll bring an update when Jonathan... has his next update from to the city. |
| 01:53:02.30 | Unknown | Thank you, Adam. And just for clarification, because I know that initially on the priority calendar, the intersection of Alexander and South was kind of grouped with the Broadway, I mean the Bridgeway strip and one thing that I |
| 01:53:15.29 | Vicki Nichols | ways. |
| 01:53:18.12 | Unknown | I know Councilmember Ford and I wanted was to kind of de-link the two just because it's such a big piece to jump up. |
| 01:53:25.16 | Unknown | you |
| 01:53:26.11 | Unknown | So I'm specifically referring to the South and Alexander Intersection for the future. Thank you. |
| 01:53:33.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:53:33.13 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:53:33.14 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:53:33.26 | Unknown | Thank you. Mr. Mayor, I have one question that regards our agenda and also regards our committees. When do you see, what is the schedule for starting the interviews so that we can repopulate our committees? There are several that have so few people that they're struggling. And the Trees and Views needs it. The CARB needs it. many of our committees need to be repopulated and added to. I understand there are only two people on the carb right now. |
| 01:54:20.48 | Adam Politzer | so um Let me answer it in two different ways and see if this helps. Thank you. The priority of which committees get filled first come from direction from the council and the mayor outlined that. I think he handed out an outline. or a piece of paper that kind of outlined his preferences. And so that's where staff has started. At my weekly staff meetings and when this subject has come up before at the council meetings, What I think our response has been and what might request is to staff. is that we need applicants. We need a deep enough pool of applicants so if you have two openings and we schedule interviews, you know, that there is at least three to four to five to six applicants, you know, to compete for those two spots. And so I asked each of the council members, and I know that several of you have made effort and had successes to get people to apply for these spots. So then it comes back to the council to call. and ask the question, do we have enough candidates in the pool? And the city clerk usually gives you a number of folks that are either new or how long they've been in the pool waiting to be called. And some of them go back to two years now for some of these committees. So the staff is always available to schedule the interviews of the people that are in the pool, but we have to get direction from the council to move forward. On CARB, that was one of the committees that was being recommended to not fill. We were actually recommending to end CARB's existence or at least suspend it until their purpose again was reevaluated. and move forward. And so staff has not actively done anything with CARB. probably causing some significant frustration on the two members or three members, whatever the number of people that are there, because that is now a very low priority because council gave direction to not do anything with CARB. So there may be the need if someone feels differently from what the mayor recommended to bring forward a new proposal and let the council give new direction to staff on either the priority of filling these positions and then how many folks would they like to be in the pool before they start interviewing and that's at council discretion. |
| 01:57:16.48 | Unknown | Well, as the liaison to the Trees and Views Committee, I would like, I know that we have at least two people who have signed up and are ready and waiting to be interviewed, and they've been signed up for months now. So I would like to suggest that we fill at least one of the positions. In fact, if we filled one of the positions, even though some of the people on there are termed out, we would then have five people on the committee. Right now they have four and often they can't get a quorum. So I would like to suggest that we at least schedule the Trees and Views Committee interviews. |
| 01:58:03.11 | Adam Politzer | And so I would recommend or ask that you make that uh, take that question to the council staff will respond to the direction of the council on the priority and |
| 01:58:17.56 | Unknown | you |
| 01:58:17.74 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. if they want to bring forward a group based on having two applicants in the pool or not. |
| 01:58:18.60 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:58:18.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:58:18.77 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:58:25.01 | Unknown | Okay, I will. What are your thoughts on filling the trees and views committee so that we can have a quorum and when they meet and they can meet regularly? |
| 01:58:40.71 | Unknown | agenda is made to this. Well, the |
| 01:58:42.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:58:43.00 | Mary Wagner | Well, the future agenda item would be whether you want us to put interviews on a future agenda item for the two. |
| 01:58:46.95 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:58:46.97 | Unknown | I'm interviewing. |
| 01:58:49.08 | Unknown | I'm not sure. |
| 01:58:49.31 | Unknown | THE FAMILY. |
| 01:58:49.48 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:58:49.50 | Unknown | Hi, Mr. Mayor, I'd like to comment on that. |
| 01:58:53.55 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:58:53.58 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:58:53.60 | Unknown | Thank you. Okay. |
| 01:58:56.38 | Unknown | I think that if we have, if we need a quorum and we don't have one and we have people who want to interview, I think it's a wonderful idea to move forward with the interviews. |
| 01:59:08.85 | Unknown | Seems pretty straightforward. I don't understand the whole... |
| 01:59:09.46 | Unknown | I don't understand the whole... |
| 01:59:12.03 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:59:14.88 | Unknown | Trees of views. Thank you. |
| 01:59:18.35 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:59:19.01 | Unknown | and any others that are short. But I'm saying trees and views are short one person. |
| 01:59:19.05 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:59:19.06 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:59:27.82 | Unknown | Have they had enough of Guam? Have they met the Guam? |
| 01:59:29.17 | Unknown | You know, |
| 01:59:29.56 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 01:59:29.59 | Unknown | Amen. They... |
| 01:59:31.33 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:59:31.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:59:31.69 | Unknown | They struggle. |
| 01:59:31.72 | Unknown | They struggle. |
| 01:59:33.41 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 01:59:33.43 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:59:33.48 | Adam Politzer | Can I respond to the... |
| 01:59:33.80 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:59:34.03 | Unknown | Yeah, can I respond to the... There have been trees, but why should it matter? Why aren't we populating? |
| 01:59:38.40 | Unknown | and we let the city manager respond. |
| 01:59:39.87 | Adam Politzer | I just wanted to respond to the question if they have enough for a quorum. They do have enough for a quorum. Over the summer though, on a vacation challenge, they had to cancel one of the meetings because of two members not being available. And there was some communication challenges there that caused a bigger problem than it needed to be. But the trees and and Views Committee, we think they're – we definitely feel that there are two applicants. Debbie thinks there potentially is a third. We're happy to schedule the interviews. But at the end of the day, there needs to be consensus So if the council would like us to scheduled the interviews for the for the members that are available to be interviewed. That's one task. The second task is the pointer. |
| 02:00:39.71 | Unknown | Do you have three now, Vicki? Two. Vicki, I'm a detective. |
| 02:00:43.54 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 02:00:46.29 | Unknown | I'm okay with scheduling the interviews Thank you. |
| 02:00:51.91 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:00:52.40 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. Thank you. |
| 02:00:53.14 | Unknown | Just once. |
| 02:00:54.04 | Unknown | Thank you. How many spots are open? |
| 02:00:55.69 | Unknown | How many spots are open? One person is turned out and one is open. Thank you. |
| 02:00:59.57 | Adam Politzer | So the other challenge that you folks have, we're happy to do it. There's one spot open. is that you have asked in the past, we've tried to keep the times very narrow and what you guys have now asked is is to lengthen that time. to 15 minute interviews. So that's 45 minutes that would happen prior to closed session And so you're looking at also making sure that there is a majority of the council that can attend, which makes it difficult when the majority or all the council members, we haven't had many absences during council meetings, to then move to a point. So there's one thing to interview and then annex to a point. So that's also the challenge. |
| 02:01:44.59 | Unknown | Right. |
| 02:01:45.34 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 02:01:45.74 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:01:45.76 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:01:45.77 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:01:45.79 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:01:45.81 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:01:47.02 | Unknown | Can I comment on the future agenda item proposal? The bike improvements from the South City limits to the ferry landing is above the line already, so it's a priority project, and that's why it's on Jonathan's desk. But it's interesting, as I commented on an earlier item in a prior meeting, that that was your ninth least important project in the priority calendar, Linda, but now you want to carve out the area in front of your house to supersede that, but that's for you |
| 02:02:22.44 | Unknown | I think it's going to be covered by the natural course of what's being investigated with TAM and other things. So it just comes up. I'm in favor of scheduling the three interviews, 15 minutes apiece, in front of the next council meeting. |
| 02:02:30.19 | Unknown | Thanks. Thank you. Yeah. |
| 02:02:39.98 | Unknown | So if that's okay with everybody else. |
| 02:02:41.43 | Unknown | Let's go back and look at how you read things. That's what it is. |
| 02:02:45.92 | Unknown | Okay, let's move on to... |
| 02:02:48.89 | Adam Politzer | So Mr. Mayor, just to clarify, so we will schedule, assuming that we have closed session at 6 p.m., you folks should plan to be here at 5.15. |
| 02:02:56.35 | Unknown | Right. Amen. Correct. October 9th. Make it a good dinner. |
| 02:03:01.32 | Unknown | Make it a good one. |
| 02:03:02.03 | Unknown | Thank you. you know. Thank you. |
| 02:03:04.45 | Unknown | I mean, really good. |
| 02:03:05.00 | Unknown | really good. I don't know if we need 15 minutes to interview people. I mean, that's a long slog. You want to do 10? Make it 10 minutes and we'll be here. |
| 02:03:06.12 | Unknown | you |
| 02:03:06.19 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:03:13.29 | Unknown | Okay, you want to do 10? 10. Okay, make it 10 minutes and we'll be here at 5.30. |
| 02:03:17.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:03:20.21 | Unknown | All right, any more agenda items? I hear none. |
| 02:03:24.78 | Unknown | I'm sorry, we're going on to committee? Yeah. Okay. |
| 02:03:28.60 | Unknown | Yeah. Okay. On the committee reports, I'll start by just saying that while Tim didn't meet this week, everybody probably knows by reading the paper that Golden Gate and Ren Transit actually made Some people think it's wonderful, some people think it's not so wonderful. So it hopefully will not result in any loss of bus service to Sausalito, which is my main concern. So I'm gonna follow that carefully and all of us should. And if you hear any rumors about anything being canceled, let me know, so let us know. |
| 02:03:47.17 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:03:51.63 | Unknown | I think. |
| 02:04:01.40 | Unknown | Mr. Mayor, I'm sorry. |
| 02:04:01.45 | Adam Politzer | Mr. Mayor, I'm sorry to interject. It's very, very important. |
| 02:04:02.63 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:04:04.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:04:05.92 | Adam Politzer | the statement that was just made and one of the things that Paul Britten did on a pretty regular basis. was protect that bus service. |
| 02:04:12.47 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 02:04:13.18 | Adam Politzer | And he did that through Al Burrow, who was on the board and also through Charles McLachin. Um, Kate Sears obviously is our district supervisor but she also has that seat. So as you speak with Kate Sears it's really important that they understand that we really would be very much impacted by any reduction of service through town. and, Golden Gate. for financial reasons, would prefer just to stop at Spencer Avenue. They would like just to go over the top of Sausalito. It's much more cost effective. They already have plenty of buses that are coming across the top of us, but for them to go through us, it costs them a significant amount of money. |
| 02:04:47.16 | Unknown | Right. |
| 02:04:53.14 | Unknown | It costs them a significant amount of money. And we'll be following up with Alice Fredericks who's on the board of the Bridge District and everybody we can to make sure that doesn't happen. But if anybody hears any rumors, let's marshal our forces and make sure that we... |
| 02:04:59.36 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 02:04:59.38 | Unknown | you |
| 02:04:59.45 | Adam Politzer | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:04:59.72 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:05:07.33 | Unknown | I mean, the only reason we have somewhat frequent service now is because a few years back when they were going to cancel, like the 10 and others, they made the Mill Valley bus come through Sausalito, which people in Mill Valley do not want, right? So because it makes it a longer trip. Sure. So without the four, there would be no bus service outside of commuter hours except for the 10, which runs late at night. And then you have the 12. |
| 02:05:15.63 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:05:15.70 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. 22. |
| 02:05:21.27 | Unknown | Right. |
| 02:05:30.23 | Unknown | And then you have the 22. |
| 02:05:31.75 | Unknown | Yeah, so it's bringing it into the politics of Moran in terms of the way the bus is going to make it's going to be tough for us. It's going to be really hard. We'll stay close on that. |
| 02:05:33.67 | Unknown | Thank you. You bring him all around. |
| 02:05:41.69 | Unknown | We're gonna make them sit up and take notes. So, all right, moving along, any other committee reports? |
| 02:05:48.45 | Unknown | Thank you. I have a committee report. |
| 02:05:52.42 | Unknown | Again. |
| 02:05:53.01 | Unknown | The community development block grant met last night and We went over the application process. could be facing some cuts to funding because of sequestration. If that goes through, I believe it's 8% cuts to the public services funding and 8% to the home. funding which may require projects to be reduced and possibly staff to be reduced. We also looked at a city and town engagement plan. where CDBG staff and I will They'll be contacting, I asked them to contact Adam city manager and so I'll be meeting with them with you if possible, to discuss the fair housing ways that we could help facilitate the fair housing goals of the CDBG. And so that's just an update for CDPG. |
| 02:06:57.83 | Unknown | Thank you. Any other reports? |
| 02:07:01.30 | Unknown | The only other thing I might want to comment is that this Friday is Spirit of Marin. |
| 02:07:10.74 | Unknown | Oh, yeah. |
| 02:07:12.09 | Unknown | And as you know, Kathy Stierhoff is being honored. And the other thing I want to mention is this October 6th and 7th, this community will be really tested on the amount of events that are going to really take place around. Never mind the Blue Angels and the Fleet Week. There's also a large convention in town. There's street festivals in the city. There were going to be probably at least two baseball teams in contention, 49ers on Sunday. And the added thing is on October 5th, that night, there were two large cruise ships coming in. |
| 02:07:12.98 | Unknown | Thank you. Just being honored. |
| 02:07:17.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:07:45.74 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:07:54.56 | Unknown | And if you've ever been here, when even one comes in, the impact is amazing. All right? So we can really be tested on that weekend. So if you want to come downtown and help me, I'm waiting for you. |
| 02:07:59.83 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:08:08.89 | Unknown | I'm waiting for you. He has a red vest for you. All right. With that, we'll move to adjourn in the memory of Ron Cage. |
| 02:08:12.28 | Unknown | to the community. |
| 02:08:24.45 | Unknown | Is it Paige? Paige. Ron Paige. Sorry about that. And he was a colorful Sausalito character. All right, do I have a motion? |
| 02:08:32.75 | Unknown | Second. Thank you. |
| 02:08:34.03 | Unknown | All right. So move. Thank you. It's Niger. Record of our time. Liberal. |