| Time | Speaker | Text |
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| 00:03:24.34 | Ray Withy | Okay. Good evening and welcome to our first City Council meeting of 2013. I'd like to start off with a roll call. |
| 00:03:40.82 | Unknown | Councilmember Pfeiffer? Here. Councilmember Theodorus? Here. Councilmember Withey? Here. Vice Mayor Leone? Here. Mayor Weiner? |
| 00:03:43.86 | Ray Withy | Here. Here. here. Weiner. present. Okay. We met in closed session item and the items were three items and Oh, I'm sorry. Thank you. Um. Mr. Moore, would you lead us in the pledge? |
| 00:04:09.16 | Steve Moore | Thank you. Okay, hats off. Thanks. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States |
| 00:04:13.09 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:04:13.24 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:04:13.27 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:04:13.29 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 00:04:13.31 | Unknown | . |
| 00:04:13.87 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 00:04:13.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:04:14.02 | Ava | . |
| 00:04:14.47 | Unknown | I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. |
| 00:04:21.04 | Steve Moore | Thank you. |
| 00:04:22.25 | Ava | and to the Republic Thank you. |
| 00:04:23.87 | Unknown | Thank you. which is staying |
| 00:04:25.71 | Ray Withy | One nation. Good God. in the visual. with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. |
| 00:04:40.26 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 00:04:41.74 | Ray Withy | I think we had closed session and there were items on D1 to D1, 2, and 3 on litigation that is still pending. So we will give you a progress report as we get our information in. Thank you. Um, with that, um, Let's see what we did both. Oh, at this time here, is there any public comment on any items that are not on the agenda? Okay. Please stand up and state your name. Thank you. |
| 00:05:21.87 | Unknown | Good evening. Sieber page 93 San Carlos. My wife and I own a small four-unit building at 46 Bulkley. Eight years ago, a new house was built next door. As part of that, a joint sewer lateral was put in, which we contributed $25,000 to. And the owner of the new house contributed much more than that. Thank you. which we contributed $25,000 to, and the owner of the new house contributed much more than that. Just recently, the house was sold, and as part of qualifying for the sale, a camera job was done down the sewer lateral, and several defects were found, like pooling, bad joints, and significantly the absence of a backflow preventer. There was no final inspection and consequently no correction of these defects when it was put in. Now the cost of redoing this is going to be $15,000 for the lowest bid. I feel that the city should contribute. Mr. Goldman tells me that the city is immune from such problems, so I'm appealing to to you to make a nice financial contribution to this repair job. Do you have any questions about |
| 00:06:59.64 | Ray Withy | No, at this time here, because it is not on our agenda, we really cannot answer you on that. |
| 00:07:08.10 | Ray Withy | Thank you. you Do you want to explain why? Thank you. |
| 00:07:10.83 | Mary Wagner | Yeah, under the Brown Act, since this item is not listed as a discussion item on your agenda, we can only briefly respond or you could direct staff to |
| 00:07:10.85 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Under the Brown Yes. |
| 00:07:19.52 | Mary Wagner | agendize it for a future discussion, but at this point Staff has had conversations Um, with you, sir, and we'll continue to do so and try and determine if there's a role the city can play, even if it's a role working with the adjacent property owner. |
| 00:07:37.07 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:07:38.59 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:07:38.61 | Mary Wagner | you |
| 00:07:38.78 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:07:39.00 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:07:39.08 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Thank you for making this way of it. |
| 00:07:41.65 | Ray Withy | Okay. Anybody else? |
| 00:07:43.47 | Ava | Yes. |
| 00:07:46.22 | Ray Withy | Yeah. |
| 00:07:47.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:07:48.08 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 00:07:48.21 | Unknown | to comment on this. Yeah, approval of the agenda. |
| 00:07:50.96 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:07:50.98 | Unknown | I'm going to skip ahead. |
| 00:07:53.96 | Ray Withy | they're supposed to make, I told them. Okay, at this time here I'd like to move for the approval of the agenda. |
| 00:08:02.35 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:08:03.95 | Ray Withy | Okay, all in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. When am I now? |
| 00:08:05.85 | Ray Withy | I'm not sure. |
| 00:08:06.12 | Ava | Right. |
| 00:08:11.41 | Ray Withy | Okay, at this time here, it's special presentations. And Steve Moore, you're back up. |
| 00:08:19.58 | Steve Moore | Thank you. |
| 00:08:19.60 | Ray Withy | Thank you very much. |
| 00:08:20.43 | Steve Moore | Thank you. |
| 00:08:20.69 | Ray Withy | I'm using the Pledge of Allegiance again just because. You did it with gusto. |
| 00:08:22.25 | Ray Withy | just because you did it with gusto. But we wanted it backwards. |
| 00:08:27.34 | Ray Withy | it is. |
| 00:08:27.41 | Steve Moore | Yeah. That was my honor. So thank you, honorable mayor and council members and city staff. Thank you for the opportunity to give you an update today about our activities at the creek located at Nevada Street and Bridgeway. And in the audience today we have administrators, parents, alumni, and of course, students of Willow Creek Academy School, public charter school here in the Sausalito Marin City School District. |
| 00:08:30.62 | Ray Withy | on Earth. |
| 00:08:53.96 | Unknown | IT. |
| 00:09:01.40 | Steve Moore | And I just wanted to give you an overview of what we've been up to for the last couple of years and where we might be headed. And then we'll have some speakers from the middle school section of the school give you a little update on their views of what's happening at the creek. So real quick, I'm going to go through these pretty quickly. I just want to leave time for students to share their feelings about the work. I called my talk, Creek Restoration Potential. Because there's a lot of... potential, like when you see that that student or that athlete. There's a lot of potential in you. It's not necessarily realized yet, but that's where we're at. And we'd like to share with you what we mean by that. So real quickly, let's see if I'm pointing to the right thing. Should I point over here? |
| 00:09:36.62 | Unknown | Absolutely. |
| 00:09:51.30 | Ray Withy | Jonathan, could you help with the closure before you leave? Explain it to him. Because Mary is lost. |
| 00:09:57.54 | Unknown | Mary's Thank you. |
| 00:10:05.91 | Steve Moore | Yeah. |
| 00:10:06.18 | Thomas Theodores | We'll be right back. |
| 00:10:06.37 | Steve Moore | Thank you. |
| 00:10:06.38 | Thomas Theodores | Thank you. |
| 00:10:06.40 | Steve Moore | Thank you. |
| 00:10:06.72 | Unknown | It's not working for you. |
| 00:10:07.65 | Steve Moore | Can I use this? Oh, I can use the roller here. That'll work. So you probably know this. You are our city's leaders, but sausalito is a Spanish word for little willow thicket. A sausal is actually a thicket of willows, not just a single willow tree. |
| 00:10:12.97 | Unknown | You probably know this. |
| 00:10:13.96 | Unknown | You are our city's |
| 00:10:26.01 | Steve Moore | And so willow thickets are located at creeks and springs in the California landscape. And therefore, one might make the case that Sausalito is the city of little creeks. And it's quite true. You know, when we talk about creek restoration potential, there's three steps that we're engaging in. First, we're restoring the creek ecosystem at Willow Grove, which is located at Nevada Street and Bridgeway. That's where the creek's above ground. It's in pipes elsewhere through the city and under the freeway. And number two, we look for opportunities to restore the creek channel in other parts of the watershed. We use the term daylighting as bringing it out of the pipe and into the daylight where it can grow plants and then birds and butterflies and other things. Then third, we think of watershed improvements, items that we do over time such as reducing impervious surfaces, rooftops, especially pavement, encourage rainwater retention, and where we find problems fix leaky sewers. So if you, we've kind of opened up the creek area next to Bridgeway. It's a little more visible. If you stand by the gate, you can see this picture of the creek, and that parcel is known as Willow Grove. It is a system that has a year-round flow. I've never seen it dry since the two and a half years I've been looking at it. And the year-round flow comes from this regular condensation of fog that we get throughout the year. And so that's what's the source of Older Springs. And that's why it's a city of little creeks, because it's not just this creek, it's other creeks in the city that have the same characteristics. These are interesting photos to look at. This is the watershed. This is where the school is located now. This was the road leading to the new Golden Gate Bridge. This fill was put in the canyon of this particular creek to support the road. These were tenements, I believe, for the shipyard, Marin ship during World War II, places where people lived. Now today, or a couple years ago, here's where the school is and here's the freeway and the rodeo drive exit and the upper watershed that provides the flow to the creek. another map that I put in the packet for you. It's a rough watershed boundary. We'll have the kids go out and really ground truth this red line someday. It'll be a good project to figure out what the true watershed is, what drains to the creek. But the blue shows the channels, and there's a couple of sites. It's not really easy to see, but the black shows the Willow Grove site next to Nevada Street, where the creek's above ground right here, and then the school property. |
| 00:12:44.23 | Unknown | someday. |
| 00:13:03.84 | Steve Moore | You know, in 2010, it was overgrown. We had some transient encampments here and there that would show up and then disappear. And now today, we can say it's more like an outdoor classroom. Third graders, fifth graders, seventh graders all participate in some education activities down there, learning about science and the ecosystem, water quality, but also doing art and poetry and other activities. So what we're friends, we formed a nonprofit just to have an independent entity that can focus on the creek restoration aspects, partnering with the city, partnering with the district, but having our own mission. And so we were inspired by this year-round creek we kind of felt like we stumbled onto. And since we formed in March of 2011, we've had seven events, and we have some statistics here because we've report this for this grant that we received, but we removed six of those boxes full of green waste out of the site. Over 2,000 native plants have been planted. Not all of them survived, but we're learning about what will. And really, on a quick and dirty calculation, about over 800 volunteer hours of work, and we, you know, it's a good community experience. And I think it's about a half acre or so that we reclaimed from blackberry briars that are impenetrable before, and there's still about that much left to go, and we have to work at keeping it back. So we developed a website. Amy Perchuk, one of the friends' leadership, we have a board of directors. She helped formulate their website. Real quickly, this is a map of the school. And just to give you an idea of where the creek goes, it goes right through the heart of the school, next to the staff parking lot, between some buildings, next to the big tree over here, and then down the Bayside driveway. And then it goes out and parallels Nevada Street. So there's some opportunities on the school property where we could possibly daylight it. It's more straightforward and then we'd have to integrate it with the redevelopment of the site in a place like this, but you know those discussions are going on. Just to give you a picture of what it might look like, here's an urban creek restoration project elsewhere. They're close to buildings, and it's another civil engineering type project where you integrate biology in the design. This is a school outside of UCLA, and this is a year-round creek there called Stone Canyon Creek, and it's an elementary school. integrated the creek into the school. Now this is a nice vision, but we want to get rid of this invasive ivy. So it's not quite a complete vision, but it gets you an idea of what we hope to do someday. And then here's our, you know, the benefits of having creeks. Orinda, I know some folks in the creek restoration world that have introduced wood ducks and then they go into people's backyards, but it's because the creek got restored and then They provided habitat for them to nest. So there's fun ecology experiments that come. introduced wood ducks and then they go into people's backyards, but it's because the creek got restored and then they provided habitat for them to nest. So there's fun ecology experiments that the community and the school can engage in. But bottom line is they're a safe, fun place to play and learn and they're great for all ages. And these are benefits of creek restoration. We can get grant money. It improves water quality, benefits the community in these different ways we've already talked about. And, you know, it's 49ers time and we say, you know, who's got it better than us? I have to say, we can restore year round creek here from its headwaters to the bay. Who else can do that? Nobody. Thank you. Nobody in the Bay Area has this potential project that they're looking at, and it's not just this one. There's other places in Sausalito, which I know Council Member Leon has made a lot of progress on even this year. So what's next? We're going to keep working out there with your permission, if you're happy with what we're doing on that public site. We've only cleared half the parcel. We're planning a Saturday, April 27th Global Youth Service Day event. We may be able to get grant funding associated with that. We have been applying for grants. Not a lot of luck. It's difficult, it's very competitive, but we keep doing it. And then in metallics, you know, we want to bring to the city's attention that we would like to work with you to do much more ambitious capital-type work, which would be first maybe, you know, working with the school district. They're open to, they're looking at their campus and how they might retool it. And there's something poetic about the creek going through Willow Creek Academy and Bayside. And then ultimately we could look at moving the corporation yard, which is right on top of the creek, and restore the channel there. But then we've got to figure out a place to put the corporation yard. And then finally we could restore the creek channel down to the bay and estuary because it's just a parking lot right now. Sort of the reverse of the Joni Mitchell song. We can pay paradise, put up a parking lot. We can pull the parking lot out and bring back a paradise. OK, so anyway, I just wanted to share. It's kind of a rehash of what I talked about about a year ago. But we have new council members, and we wanted to share some of our work. And then I wanted to give the students a chance to give their impression of what they've been working on. And also, I think they have something besides their presentation. So who wants to come up? |
| 00:18:42.51 | Ray Withy | While they're coming up, I just think people who don't, please come on up. Mr. Moore is, you know, speaks from knowledge. This is his area of expertise as well as being involved in the school, so it's not, he's not talking trash, as they say. He knows well of what he speaks. |
| 00:18:55.35 | Steve Moore | Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I'm a civil engineer. I've actually done some sewer projects here in town. So I know. Give them some free advice. So anyway, Ariana Agnew and Mizbah Mamoon and Ava Thank you. So take it away. |
| 00:19:24.96 | Mizbah Mamoon | Hi, I'm Miss Femma Moon. And I'm Ariana Agnew. And we're eighth graders at Sausalito's very own Willow Creek Academy. And can I just say it's great to be here tonight. |
| 00:19:37.13 | Ariana Agnew | We're here to introduce you a little bit to our restoration project and update those of you who already know about it. |
| 00:19:42.87 | Mizbah Mamoon | Throughout the school year, we have had a number of work parties where we've been planting new native plants and driving out invasive ones. And to restore our creek and our willow grove, |
| 00:19:57.03 | Ariana Agnew | to its natural state. |
| 00:19:58.68 | Mizbah Mamoon | Thank you. |
| 00:19:58.71 | Ariana Agnew | Well, why is the Crete so important? For one thing, the reason we're working on bringing back the native plants and driving out invasive ones is to bring back all the natural wildlife because When all the invasive plants come in, they sort of choke out the native plants, and that affects all the animals, and that could also in its turn affect the creek which would go on to affect the bay. And also, all the storm drains in our school and town lead into this creek, and that can also affect the Bay. Then there's also the fact that all of the kids in our school get to go down to the creek and they get to learn so much just by drawing and writing about what they see And by learning so much about nature and the environment, and they get to find out about valuable skills and valuable... things that bring meaning into their life, like they get to learn about taking care of Thank you. |
| 00:20:52.27 | Mizbah Mamoon | for our Ocean Gardens project. Um, With our grant, we have had a number of projects going on that Ariana and I went to each class and gave a fun, kid-friendly presentation about our local watershed, creek, and restoration projects. We invented a top secret organization where |
| 00:21:13.12 | Unknown | Okay, I think. |
| 00:21:15.11 | Mizbah Mamoon | All the kids were agents for our NOAA project, where they had to destroy the trash monster |
| 00:21:21.37 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:21:23.19 | Mizbah Mamoon | And we had a school-wide project Where? we were going to fill a giant fish made out of chicken wire and we're going to fill it with trash recycled at school. It'll be a community-wide |
| 00:21:39.91 | Ava | of your... |
| 00:21:42.29 | Mizbah Mamoon | art project and a recycling event. |
| 00:21:48.70 | Mizbah Mamoon | The creek reminds us of how it's a community. all of the storm drains in Sausalito empty out to the creek, which shows how it entwines Olive, sauce, tomato. to the creek and to our bay and in our environment, of course. It shows community because it's a place where everybody in Sausalito, all of our families, our students, everybody can just come and have a picnic and just try to be better people by helping our environment. |
| 00:22:21.58 | Ariana Agnew | Ava, do you want to say something? Thank you. you Thank you. |
| 00:22:25.51 | Mizbah Mamoon | What's your favorite part about the creep? |
| 00:22:31.40 | Mizbah Mamoon | The trees, oh, do you want to see it? Just see it. |
| 00:22:41.32 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 00:22:41.84 | Mizbah Mamoon | Yeah, I got to climb on the trees. Well, she said the trees she gets to climb on. It really shows how all of these kids get, it's really a home to them because most of the kids have been going there for a couple of years now and it's like a second classroom |
| 00:22:41.88 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 00:22:41.99 | Ariana Agnew | I have client on the trees. |
| 00:22:57.47 | Ariana Agnew | I still remember the first time I went down, which actually is not surprising because it was this year. It was really amazing to see the creek and all the wildlife, and it was really beautiful. |
| 00:23:03.58 | Mizbah Mamoon | It was really amazing. |
| 00:23:09.55 | Mizbah Mamoon | And being here since, being part of the restoration group since sixth grade really showed me how how much change we've actually done. It really gives an example of how one person can really interesting. give a thing to the world. Make a difference. Our school and restoration group have a gift for you. you Thank you. |
| 00:23:36.03 | Ava | at all. |
| 00:23:36.81 | Mizbah Mamoon | as a welcoming city council gift. They are custom cre... um, |
| 00:23:46.27 | Ariana Agnew | There's a photo for every month that was taken at the creek. |
| 00:24:00.16 | Mizbah Mamoon | Thank you and have a good night. |
| 00:24:00.62 | Ava | Thank you. Thank you. Good job. |
| 00:24:10.42 | Steve Moore | And that's our special presentation. Thank you very much. |
| 00:24:12.26 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:24:12.77 | Thomas Theodores | Thank you very much. Thanks for your support. |
| 00:24:14.83 | Steve Moore | Thank you. |
| 00:24:17.02 | Ray Withy | Mr. Mayor, can I make a comment? |
| 00:24:18.89 | Steve Moore | Thank you. |
| 00:24:18.92 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 00:24:19.60 | Ray Withy | So I just wanted to say to Steve and our wonderful presenters here from Willow Creek that I am so impressed. with all of your hard work and it's so inspiring to see such beauty and this reclamation of this ecosystem coming to life. And I just want to thank you for your vision and I want to thank you for your commitment to that vision. It's absolutely beautiful. Thank you. |
| 00:24:46.31 | Jonathon Goldman | Okay. |
| 00:24:46.63 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Thank you very much. As Steve mentioned, there's money sort of alluded to. We have funds going towards daylighting. We're not sure if we're going to apply to here or Dunphy Park this calendar year. We'll see what happens. But this is a project, I agree, that deserves some help up and down the watershed. So we'll keep it on the forefront. Thank you. |
| 00:25:09.97 | Ray Withy | . |
| 00:25:10.16 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:25:11.27 | Ray Withy | Next item we have is the recognition of Human Resources Administrator Susie Nichols, recipient of the California Public Employees Labor Relations Association, CalPura Moving Forward Award. Charlie Francis? |
| 00:25:34.85 | Ava | you Thank you. |
| 00:25:40.52 | Ava | Here we go. |
| 00:25:43.40 | Unknown | Thank you Mr. Mayor, members of the City Council. Thank you for the opportunity to be here tonight to recognize the outstanding achievement and award that was attained by our Human Resources Administrator, Susan Nichols. You know, people are the heart of our organization. And CalPellera, which is the California Association of Public Employees and Public Employers and Labor Relations Officials, it's an organization that brings together the best minds of the private sector and the public sector and provide research and training and best practices and management of public employment and labor relations in the sector. And they They provide They do an annual award and the award is to recognize the leadership in the field of public sector labor relationships and they focus on a series of accomplishments. So I just want to take a brief moment to outline the accomplishment that was achieved. It was management of the city's cost of labor reform strategy that took over two years to put into place. You recognize the accomplishment through a flow chart that was presented a number of times. that took over two years to put into place. You recognize the accomplishment through a flow chart that was presented a number of times throughout the labor negotiation process. But it was actually a process that was undergirded by research and analysis, by strategy development and managing studies, classification studies, compensation studies, making sure that they all occurred on time, within scope, under budget, and putting together the whole package, developing sustainability targets, and then making sure that the negotiated agreements were implemented correctly. All of that was managed by our Human Resources Administrator, Susie Nichols. I just want to take a brief moment how important this was for the city. There were significant impacts because it helped the city implement pension OPEB other than pension post-employment benefits, health care cost reform and wage and salary reform. Just on pensions, the city was able to implement three pension tiers which significantly lowers not only our annual normal cost for pensions, but it will significantly also reduce the city's pension liabilities that are recorded on the balance sheet. Other than post-employment benefits, we cut our normal costs in half, our annual normal costs, and our unfunded accrued actuarial liability actually goes away in less than 75 years. It peaks in the next 12 years. So you almost make the argument that GASB 45 doesn't apply to a city that closes its pool and its pension, its unfunded liability goes away. Healthcare costs, with significant reduction in healthcare costs for all new employees and for some current employees. And then we lowered our wages and salaries significantly. All four components of this labor cost reform will result in the city bringing its labor costs down to 65% of revenues, which is sustainable for a city, in our case. So that was about the association. That's about the award. That's the accomplishments and the impact. Let me just say it was a significant milestone for Susie. She accomplished a lot. There was noteworthy. Not only did it have measurable impacts, but I want to tell you something about Susie. She's an exemplary work ethic. You have a positive mental attitude. As all of you know, as soon as you walk in that front door, she's got a smile. she's got a hi, how are you? And it's genuine. It comes from her heart because she really loves people. And that's what you want in a human resources administrator who's managing our organization, the service organization, which is 75% people. She's self-motivated. There's countless times where she's working to not only improve herself, coming and asking, how can I understand this better? Is there another way I can manage this process? Is there something more I can do? But she's also self-motivated. I don't have to remind her, oh, here's a tickler that we need to do this. She goes, I know, I've already got it on my calendar. And then lastly, in terms of employees, Susie is very goal-. She sets high goals for herself and for the organization and she accomplishes those goals. So with that, a little bit of introduction. It just touches the surface of the true diamond that we have in our human resources administrator. I just want to show you the award that was awarded to her by her peers at CalPelra at the National Conference in December and came to the city. And so, Susie, I'm proud to recognize you publicly and to give you that award. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:30:24.10 | Ava | Thank you. Thank you. You want to say anything? |
| 00:30:30.60 | Unknown | I just want to say, Mr. Mayor, members of the council, Charlie, thank you so very much. But this is all a collaborative effort as well with a wonderful team leader, team players. We have wonderful workers and admin, and we all support one another and work together. So it's a great team, but thank you very much. I feel very honored. |
| 00:30:51.05 | Ray Withy | Thank you and congratulations. |
| 00:30:59.76 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Congratulations. |
| 00:31:10.42 | Ray Withy | you |
| 00:31:15.38 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:31:17.22 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 00:31:17.42 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:31:17.75 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:31:17.90 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:31:17.96 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:31:18.98 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:31:19.77 | Ray Withy | Well, I got to ask you. Well, we got rid of him earlier. |
| 00:31:19.86 | Ava | I like it asking you. Thank you. Thank you. Sure. |
| 00:31:25.54 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:31:25.96 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 00:31:31.06 | Ava | Thank you. I'm sorry. |
| 00:31:33.54 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:31:35.43 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 00:31:35.45 | Ray Withy | Yeah. |
| 00:31:35.84 | Ava | Thank you. Come on. |
| 00:31:38.76 | Ray Withy | They will when I say it again. Okay. |
| 00:31:46.65 | Ray Withy | Yeah. Did I miss anybody when I said before that it would be open for public comment on any items that were not on the agenda? to the country. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, we'll move right quickly about that. All right, next is the action meetings of the previous meeting. And so... |
| 00:32:15.56 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:32:15.58 | Ava | Thank you. We had some technical difficulties. |
| 00:32:18.43 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Time, a clause for the pause. |
| 00:32:24.38 | Ray Withy | Okay? All right. |
| 00:32:28.89 | Unknown | Any comments on that? |
| 00:32:29.95 | Ray Withy | Yeah, any comments on the minutes of the regular council meeting of December 11, 2012? |
| 00:32:30.48 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:32:30.51 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:32:37.67 | Ray Withy | None. Okay. So moved for approval. Second. |
| 00:32:42.10 | Ray Withy | Second. |
| 00:32:43.35 | Ray Withy | All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay, this time here we have the consent calendar. Matters listed upon the consent calendar are considered routine and non-controversial, require no discussion. I expect that they have unanimous council support and may be enacted by the council in one motion in the form listed below. |
| 00:32:44.89 | Ray Withy | Hi. |
| 00:33:09.95 | Ray Withy | Okay. |
| 00:33:10.45 | Ray Withy | The only question I have for calendar of meeting dates. Thank you. I think in April, November. |
| 00:33:23.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:33:24.04 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:33:24.97 | Unknown | 16th. |
| 00:33:26.45 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Second is the 16th as our meeting dates. Is it, can I bring that up as an item of discussion? Do we have to addendize it? Do we have to put it later in the Go ahead. |
| 00:33:38.43 | Ray Withy | I'm sorry, go ahead. |
| 00:33:40.74 | Ray Withy | Yeah, no, I was... I can't figure out my note thing. Wondering if there was any flexibility in moving one of those |
| 00:33:55.14 | Unknown | I think we'll get five. |
| 00:33:57.30 | Ray Withy | April. |
| 00:34:01.11 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 00:34:02.02 | Ava | such as the 16th and 23rd of... |
| 00:34:04.66 | Adam Politzer | you |
| 00:34:05.38 | Ray Withy | Yeah, let me get back there. This is a little slow. |
| 00:34:09.33 | Ava | Yeah. |
| 00:34:15.41 | Unknown | One second. Just give me a... |
| 00:34:19.36 | Adam Politzer | So just so we're clear, we're talking about the two council meetings in April, the second and the 16th, and Vice Mayor Leon, you're suggesting we move the 16th. |
| 00:34:25.89 | Ava | you're suggesting we move to six |
| 00:34:28.53 | Adam Politzer | you We have five Tuesdays so we have some flexibility there. Assuming that your fellow council members. Yeah so the 16th. |
| 00:34:36.08 | Ray Withy | Yeah, so the 16th, I was wondering if we can move that the 16th to the 23rd. Does anybody have a problem with the 16th to the 23rd, Linda? |
| 00:34:41.07 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:34:44.57 | Ray Withy | to it. We're moving into the 23rd. Okay. All right. We will do that. |
| 00:34:52.63 | Ray Withy | I think that was it for me. |
| 00:34:54.15 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:34:57.29 | Ray Withy | Okay, so do we have a motion to... |
| 00:35:02.67 | Ray Withy | So with that, I'll make a motion to adopt the consent calendar as submitted, except for that one change to item 4D. |
| 00:35:14.84 | Ray Withy | And Mr. Mayor, I'm sorry, Jonathan, I had just one quick question about 4E. I know that we discussed the bicycle and pedestrian committee, and we did vote to pass a resolution forming that committee. And I know that we have at least two current applicants. And I'm wondering if we should show that in the record as well for that committee. |
| 00:35:44.99 | Adam Politzer | I would say that we technically can do this, but this is because that has not been repopulated it's always going to show vacancies so it hasn't been reestablished even though we have approved that the board exists. We haven't yet brought it back before the Council to to repopulate it. Technically, you probably could do either. But past practice, we wouldn't show that board. and its vacancies. |
| 00:36:14.09 | Ava | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:36:20.89 | Ray Withy | And that bicycle and pedestrian committee, that will... |
| 00:36:25.56 | Ray Withy | Is that a task force or a round-out committee? |
| 00:36:27.11 | Ray Withy | Right. It is a committee, but that committee, in my opinion, should be made comprised of at least seven, and I would like to see two people from the south end of town, because it does go through the whole town. We're not just talking about one. |
| 00:36:28.89 | Ray Withy | It is. |
| 00:36:48.01 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, we're probably going into more detail than necessary because that's not what the agenda item is, I think, the question. Thank you. |
| 00:36:56.21 | Ray Withy | Excuse me, a future agenda item again. Thank you. |
| 00:37:00.31 | Ava | you |
| 00:37:01.47 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:37:01.49 | Ray Withy | Aye. Is there a second? Second on that? Second. Thank you. Thank you, Tony. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Okay, next we have public hearings. None. Let's move over to business items. Casket, lead marina, temporary fundraising banner at Dunphy Park. |
| 00:37:03.38 | Ray Withy | Definitely. |
| 00:37:05.18 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 00:37:05.39 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:37:08.29 | Thomas Theodores | Hi. |
| 00:37:21.39 | Ray Withy | Lily? |
| 00:37:27.24 | Ray Withy | Yep. |
| 00:37:34.65 | Ray Withy | Thank you. No. |
| 00:37:36.39 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:37:37.82 | Ray Withy | You just have a strong voice, that's why I heard that. |
| 00:37:40.91 | Ray Withy | representative in it today. |
| 00:38:12.20 | Lily | Is that better? Yeah, all right. So Happy New Year. Good evening, Mr. Mayor, council members. Thank you. The project before you tonight is for the installation of a temporary fundraising sign at the Cascadley Marina. A little bit of background, the Cass Goodley Marina is a non-profit organization transitioning the former Cass's Marina into a community boating center. The marina is currently engaging in a fundraising effort to raise money to, the first priority is to renovate the docks to comply with ADA standards. And then the next is to renovate offices and sheds and install an outdoor classroom and a restroom for the facility. The parcel is owned by the city, and in January of 2012, the city entered into a letter of intent with the marina, which established a period of time for negotiations on the lease of the property from the city to the marina. |
| 00:39:20.61 | Lily | There are three city approved locations for the installation of temporary signage for community events. The first is across Bridgeway between Coloma and Ebtide. The next is at the Trident Restaurant. And the other is here at City Hall at the basketball courts. the marina is requesting authorization from the council on the placement of a temporary fundraising sign at Dunphy Park to announce the marina's fundraising efforts. And staff decided to seek council authorization for the sign at the Dunphy Park location because it's not one of the three standard sign locations. The approval for those three standard sign locations is with the Parks and Rec Department, and so the marina will be requesting the installation of a fundraising sign at the basketball courts, in addition to this fundraising sign. at Dunphy Park. With this request, the marina is also asking for a waiver of two different fees. One is the encouragement permit fee for the installation of the sign at Dunphy Park. And the other is a banner permit fee for the installation of the sign at the basketball courts. |
| 00:40:35.53 | Lily | For the Dunphy Park sign, the dimensions are four feet by five feet. It contains, as you see, a sailboat image with the fundraising milestones and more information about the efforts. It will be printed on canvas and will be hung below the wooden Casas Marina sign. right next to Dunphy Park. |
| 00:41:00.59 | Lily | This is just an aerial that shows the sign's location. |
| 00:41:07.80 | Lily | So in considering the temporary sign tonight, staff recommends the council consider a number of items. First, the size and location of the sign. The staff has provided examples of some other signage throughout the city that's in the Report. Additionally, the applicant seeking the council's endorsement of the city logo on the fundraising sign. And you can see that location for the city logo on the right hand bottom corner of the sign. And lastly, staff has included a number of recommended conditions of approval for this sign. The first is the 12-month maximum on the length of time this sign can stay at. The other is that the marina is responsible for installing, maintaining, and removing the sign. And the last is that the city may remove the sign at any time. And here are just the scale examples that are in your staff report of other signs in So staff is recommending that if the council decides to approve the sign tonight, the council provide direction on the size proposed and the location of the sign, then approve the draft resolution which authorizes the installation of the sign. and also staff is recommending the council waive the encroachment permit fee and the banner permit fee which total 500. $77. The council decides to not approve the sign. then the council should move to deny the the sign request by minute order. And that concludes our staff report and we're available for any questions. |
| 00:42:47.65 | Ray Withy | Okay, thank you, Lily. At this time here, any... Questions with Lily? Yeah. |
| 00:42:56.25 | Ray Withy | Mr. Mayor, I have a question? Thank you. So Lily, the sign that would go right under the CAS major sign there. With that, I notice it's right in front of a parking lot and have you looked at like any obstruction in terms of driving? I'm assuming that there's not a safety issue involved there, And that's okay. And that's my first question. My second question, well, I'll go ahead and respond to the first one. |
| 00:43:29.93 | Lily | Yeah, I think there's adequate distance between the location of the sign and the parking lot. that it won't, are you worried about it flapping around or? |
| 00:43:39.88 | Ray Withy | Well, my first question concerned obstruction more of people like pulling out or, you know, driving just to make sure that, you know, there was ample, you know, visibility for parkers, people parking. And my second question was, I assume that if there was any you know, wind flapping around or any hazard they have insurance to cover that. So. |
| 00:44:03.75 | Lily | It hasn't been reviewed by the engineering department in terms of evaluating the parking lot. It's just been looked at by planning staff. |
| 00:44:11.33 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:44:12.44 | Lily | And I think we found it adequate in terms of not obstructing vehicles sight lines. |
| 00:44:19.60 | Ray Withy | Yeah, Lily, where that sign is really isn't where that driveway is that's going out. |
| 00:44:26.40 | Lily | You can see it more in the aerial here. I'm not sure if that's a better picture, but you can see the location of the parking lot and then the location of the existing sign. |
| 00:44:38.24 | Thomas Theodores | on. I have two questions. One is, you say a maximum of 12 months, but is there an anticipated amount of time? And secondly, why does the city logo, why would that be included on there? I don't see the purpose of that, so I'd like that explained. |
| 00:44:42.68 | Lily | and |
| 00:44:53.53 | Lily | So the anticipated amount of time, that might be better answered by Heather Richards, who's here this evening. The city logo, it's my understanding that in the letter of intent, the city agreed to work with the marina to sponsor the marina on the fundraising event. So that's why the marina is asking for the logo. |
| 00:45:17.01 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Jonathan? Lillie, what about the length of time for the basketball court? Thank you. |
| 00:45:25.11 | Lily | My understanding is that's generally 60 days. |
| 00:45:28.25 | Ray Withy | Okay. So that's not the same 12 months. |
| 00:45:32.63 | Ray Withy | And Mr. Mayor, the same question goes for the trident. Is that 60 days as well? |
| 00:45:39.55 | Lily | My understanding of those three locations, they're all handed by the Parks and Rec Department and it's up to 60 days. |
| 00:45:47.38 | Adam Politzer | I think the location of the Trident and the one over Bridgeway down by the Shell Station are restricted a little bit more because there's only one location there, but the basketball court has multiple locations. |
| 00:45:56.58 | Unknown | Right. |
| 00:45:56.97 | Unknown | that. |
| 00:46:02.30 | Adam Politzer | I would say it's probably less than, it's probably 30 days for the Detroit vocation. |
| 00:46:06.94 | Ray Withy | Because I know when I was on the Arts Commission, we could only put that sign up like four days, four weeks at maximum before an event and we had to take it down. It was really tightly structured because it was a revenue source for the city. |
| 00:46:21.34 | Adam Politzer | Well, yeah, not necessarily a revenue source. It's supposed to be public, you know, supposed to promote public events from nonprofits. And during the summer, some of the folks only get to have it up for a week or two, but they're willing to put it up for those short periods of time because of the exposure. We're at the basketball court where you see like the Friends bookstore that's up there year-round, as is the farmer's market, so we have a little bit more latitude there. |
| 00:46:45.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:46:45.99 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 00:46:46.02 | Thomas Theodores | a little bit. |
| 00:46:49.23 | Ray Withy | Okay. Any other questions? Yeah, ready. |
| 00:46:52.96 | Thomas Theodores | Lily, is the three... standard locations as you describe them in the report, something that's actually memorialized somewhere in our ordinance, or is it just sort of historically evolved and it's our standard practice? No, there. |
| 00:47:13.70 | Adam Politzer | No, there's a written policy, and it happened in the early 2000s because we had a plethora of sandwich boards along the medium advertising every event this community wanted to host, and it was clutter in the medium. It became dangerous when the wind blew them out into the traffic way. So the city at that point came up with a policy approved by the council that |
| 00:47:14.09 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 00:47:14.10 | Thomas Theodores | There's a there's a |
| 00:47:14.96 | Ray Withy | I'm going to call it. |
| 00:47:15.23 | Thomas Theodores | Thank you. |
| 00:47:15.40 | Ray Withy | it |
| 00:47:15.88 | Ava | Yeah. |
| 00:47:40.21 | Adam Politzer | It basically says these are the only three locations. Science can go up with restrictions on what type of entities can post those signs at those three locations. Okay, any other questions? |
| 00:47:54.99 | Ray Withy | I have one more question. So it would be for a 60-day period, and when would that be? Would that be right now, like early spring, or would we be getting into the summer months? for the Bridgeway, the main location by the Trident. |
| 00:48:06.95 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:48:07.31 | Unknown | attention. |
| 00:48:08.64 | Unknown | No. |
| 00:48:14.08 | Unknown | Thank you. by the Trident. No, there's no sign there. |
| 00:48:20.17 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Oh, two locations. Oh, okay. Well then, nevermind. |
| 00:48:20.49 | Unknown | A lot of people. |
| 00:48:23.29 | Ray Withy | Okay. |
| 00:48:23.68 | Ray Withy | Fine. |
| 00:48:24.13 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 00:48:24.24 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:48:24.25 | Ray Withy | you Thank you. Okay, any other questions? All right. Thank you, Lily. Any comment from the public at this time? Heather? |
| 00:48:42.14 | Heather Richard | Hi, Heather Richard, 300 Napa Street. Thanks, Lily. Great presentation. And I just wanted to clarify the with a partnership. with parks and rec is very important to us to be a successful entity, and it's what we've based a lot of our sustainability around once we get up and running. And it also gives us a lot of opportunities and fundraising. So... |
| 00:49:09.92 | Ray Withy | Now does she want to say anything? I don't know. |
| 00:49:12.65 | Heather Richard | I don't know. Okay. So the fact that we are partnering with Parks and Rec on this project makes us much more fundable, and the logo is pretty important to that. That's why we've asked for approval for it. And it's something that we're using a lot of to write grants for as well. So being able to kind of back up what we're doing with the fact that the city has some buy-in to this project at this point makes us so much more fundable and not so much of a cart before the horse problem as we had a year ago. |
| 00:49:44.54 | Unknown | THAT MAKES US. |
| 00:49:53.52 | Ray Withy | But really, what's your favorite part of going to the creek is what I want to know. |
| 00:49:54.18 | Heather Richard | Thank you. |
| 00:49:58.11 | Ray Withy | No, you. in the tree. |
| 00:49:59.04 | Ariana Agnew | I'm cutting the trees, of course. |
| 00:50:00.03 | Ray Withy | Of course. |
| 00:50:01.18 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:50:01.96 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:50:02.33 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:50:02.36 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:50:02.48 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Thank you, Heather, and thank you for all the hard work you're doing on this. |
| 00:50:03.97 | Ray Withy | That's right. |
| 00:50:04.03 | Adam Politzer | Bye. |
| 00:50:04.07 | Ray Withy | Thank you, Heather, and thank you. |
| 00:50:07.76 | Adam Politzer | Mr. Mayor, I just wanted to share with you Mike Langford, our Park Recreation Director, had planned on being here tonight to support Lilly and Heather's effort here, but unfortunately he had to attend the funeral and he had to travel, so he wasn't able to make it back in time. |
| 00:50:14.16 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:50:14.18 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:50:25.43 | Ray Withy | Okay, thank you. So at this time here, |
| 00:50:31.41 | Ray Withy | recommendations. |
| 00:50:34.46 | Ray Withy | Yeah, I'll just make a motion to approve the staff recommendation as |
| 00:50:42.29 | Ava | Ugh. |
| 00:50:42.63 | Ray Withy | Excuse me, to... to approve the draft resolution authorizing the installation of the temporary signs and waive the encroachment permit fee and banner permit fee pursuant to Section 1.09.050 of the Municipal Code. I'll second that. Okay. |
| 00:50:49.85 | Unknown | of the |
| 00:51:05.49 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:51:05.90 | Ray Withy | you |
| 00:51:05.97 | Ray Withy | All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Okay, and thank you, Heather. Thank you, Lily. |
| 00:51:07.30 | Unknown | All right. |
| 00:51:13.73 | Ray Withy | Okay, you might as well stay right there. Okay, next, the update on the housing element. |
| 00:51:15.47 | Unknown | You might as well stay right there. Okay, nice thing up there. |
| 00:51:21.15 | Ray Withy | Information of the process. I spit through that one. Okay, go ahead, Lily. Mm-hmm. |
| 00:51:28.05 | Lily | Thank you again. |
| 00:51:29.15 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:51:30.76 | Lily | Thank you. will be a brief update on the implementation programs in the adopted housing element. |
| 00:51:40.98 | Lily | As you are aware, the City Council approved the housing element on October 9th of 2012, and the State of California certified it on November 7th of 2012. The housing element contains 35 implementing programs, and staff has organized the task-related implementing programs into this chart here that's on the screen and then in your staff report as well. The chart is organized by two categories. The first is above the line with the years on it, and that's those programs that involve publicity and public information distribution. And then the ones below that line are items that require amendments to our regulations or our codes. And then the charts also organized by year and the specific dates that we've promised in the housing element to accomplish those tasks. So there's four that we'd like to highlight in particular this evening. The first is the accessory dwelling unit regulations and the amnesty program. As you are aware, the ADE regulations were adopted by the Council on November 27th of last year, and we have received a high number of interested people coming to the counter calling about the program for both the amnesty and the new units. We sent out a postcard that I put in front of you this evening and also at the front here. |
| 00:52:59.91 | Mary Wagner | is there sort of |
| 00:53:10.33 | Lily | that folks received right before the holiday. So we're getting a lot of interest generated from that postcard. So we're happy about that. The priority amendments for this year include the consideration of amendments to the regulations for single-family residences and multi-family zoning districts, green building regulations, and the vertical mixed-use, horizontal mixed-use regulations to encourage affordable housing in commercial districts. So just going into those items briefly, the single-family regulations are looking at the issue of single-family residences and multi-family zoning districts. how at times the Planning Commission is seeing that they can take advantage of the multifamily development standards afforded to them in those districts. It's an issue that the Planning Commission took a look at in 2010. And then. formed a subcommittee that had seven meetings in 2011. Those meetings were put on hold during the housing element events and the ADU regulations. And we are starting up those meetings again in early February of this year. And the process will be that the subcommittee will give a recommendation to the Planning Commission, Planning Commission will review and forward a recommendation to the City Council. |
| 00:54:31.35 | Ray Withy | May I ask you a question? Yes. Can we get, or is there a possibility of just getting kind of a, not right now, but just submitted as part of a. the packet at some point for general information, a summary of kind of where they are in this. in terms of what issues they're going back and forth on so that maybe we could, before something comes all the way here, have some ability to kind of pay, give them some feedback midstream. That would be, I think, helpful. And it doesn't have to be a diatribe on where they are. Just kind of here's what we agree on and here's what we're discussing in bullet points. Sure. That would be helpful. Thanks. |
| 00:55:11.29 | Ava | Sure. |
| 00:55:19.49 | Lily | Okay. And then the next item is the green building regulations and the city staff. |
| 00:55:27.49 | Ray Withy | Is that something that the majority folks would like some information on? No, absolutely. Okay. I just wanted to make sure I said, I can't tell anybody what to do, but we can as a group. |
| 00:55:34.57 | Lily | Thank you. |
| 00:55:34.60 | Ava | Oh, absolutely. |
| 00:55:35.86 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:55:41.80 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 00:55:44.93 | Ray Withy | Believe me, I can't tell anybody what to do. |
| 00:55:45.48 | Ava | Thank you. what he wants to do. |
| 00:55:47.78 | Ray Withy | Thank you. And I'm not talking just here. Sorry, strike that from the record, please. |
| 00:55:57.53 | Lily | any other questions that i think that but |
| 00:55:59.07 | Ava | right now. Thank you. Thank you. I'm sorry. |
| 00:56:08.35 | Lily | The green building regulations will be incorporated with as a part of the building code update that the city will be doing this year. And then the last item is the VMU-HMU. It's the vertical mixed use and the horizontal mixed use programs that are in the housing element. The VMU is a mandatory requirement for all CN, neighborhood commercial, CR, commercial residential, and CC, central commercial districts, that would require any new development above the ground floor to be residential and that a component of the residential be affordable. So there was at least one unit, and if there was six or more units, 20% of the units needed And there were some other regulations. as well, but that's kind of the highlight of that regulation. And then the HMU was the voluntary program that only affected those two parcels over in the CN District at the north, the 7-Eleven site and that office building at Bridgeway and Olive. And that was to allow the property owner to redevelop the site so that the ground floor could be residential. And if the property owner took advantage of that program, there were some incentives. them. And then also some restrictions, including |
| 00:57:30.60 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 00:57:32.30 | Lily | making sure that a percentage of the units were affordable. |
| 00:57:38.29 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 00:57:38.82 | Lily | So that's just an overview of the implementing programs and the housing element. That concludes our update, if you have any questions. |
| 00:57:47.00 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 00:57:47.61 | Ray Withy | Okay, any questions? |
| 00:57:48.91 | Ray Withy | Mr. Mayor, yes. So I'm just wondering really |
| 00:57:53.97 | Unknown | Are there any plans for any other public workshops around, you know, like with the little more community, with every, you know, chicken man up, or the community with the neighborhoods? and the public works out by the road. |
| 00:58:09.97 | Lily | Yeah, I've been thinking about for the PMU and the single family regulations and utilizing that great email list that we put together for the housing element update. and asking people if they want to stay on the list, but just giving them an idea of what's going on. So that was an idea I had. For the LIVA boards, I think we'll be putting together some information. We're also dedicated, I think, to work on getting them a central mailing location as well so that they can receive public notices. We're working on that too. |
| 00:58:47.43 | Ray Withy | So just as a follow-up, one thing that have you considered is also like perhaps a venue for the public to weigh in to send, you know, comments, you know, if you send out a communication, something like that, you know, as it's being designed or developed prior to it coming to council? |
| 00:59:08.47 | Lily | for these amendments? |
| 00:59:10.53 | Ray Withy | Yeah. |
| 00:59:11.26 | Lily | Yeah, so they would go to Planning Commission first, so that would be the public hearing that they would go to before they come to council. The subcommittee that's formed for the single family regulations and that is put online. We have two architects and a real estate agent that are involved in those subcommittee meetings. And like I said, I will be sending out an email to that distribution list letting them know about those meetings before the Planning Commission meeting. |
| 00:59:43.34 | Unknown | I think. Thank you. |
| 00:59:45.55 | Ray Withy | Two things, Lily. On the green codes, and so the, Jeremy, correct me if I'm wrong here, so the burst thing fell apart, right? The whole burst nonsense, whatever that stood for, I can't even remember, which was some task force with good intentions. But is there, and I know what I think the city is thinking about is just kind of incorporating the building code update as our green stuff, building regulations. But is there a thought of also looking at some of the things that were in the BIRST recommendations or the county or other folks who have adopted? other cities in San Rafael and others that have adopted green codes to take a look at those as well as just adopting the building code and kind of see cherry pick some ideas out of those. |
| 01:00:33.18 | Lily | That's a part of our work plan right now. We're looking at the burst, and then we're looking at what's required of the building code, |
| 01:00:34.62 | Ray Withy | Okay. |
| 01:00:39.36 | Ray Withy | Okay. |
| 01:00:39.66 | Lily | Take comparing the two. |
| 01:00:40.86 | Ray Withy | Okay, great. And on the liveaboard, can you go back to your... So can you just explain to me in a little greater detail what that blurb means? |
| 01:00:54.94 | Unknown | The... |
| 01:00:55.05 | Lily | Yeah. The DOF and... |
| 01:00:56.27 | Ray Withy | The DOF in spring complete amendment, all that stuff. |
| 01:00:57.47 | Lily | and, So every year the Department of Finance asks the city how many units we've gained or lost over the last year. In our report to the Department of Finance this year from last year, we've committed to reporting the number of liveaboards that the city has accepted as a part of the housing element. So we'll be reporting that. to the Department of Finance this year. |
| 01:01:26.78 | Ray Withy | PERMITTED LIVING ABORARD. RECOGNIZED. |
| 01:01:28.79 | Lily | RECOGNIZED. And then we've also, if you remember, there are a number of I think there were four that didn't have conditional use permits for their liveaboard, and those marinas will be coming to you for a resolution from the council to bless those marinas, essentially. So that's what the amendment of the That's actually not on there. The amendment of BCDC permits, that's with one marina in particular, which is escaping my memory right now, that needs its BCDC permit. And so we have committed to working with them to help them through that process. |
| 01:02:09.83 | Ray Withy | Would that, would underneath that umbrella of those three things, would there be some discussion of, right now, Marines, some don't allow to live aboard. Would there be some discussion of the flip side of that, of requiring that? Would that fall under this sort of bullet point where if we're dealing with the full nature of liveaboards, could that be a point that might be addressed when we discuss kind of some of these underlying |
| 01:02:37.11 | Lily | That wasn't specifically called out in the housing element. |
| 01:02:40.47 | Ray Withy | Oh, I know. |
| 01:02:40.71 | Lily | It was. |
| 01:02:41.16 | Ray Withy | Right. |
| 01:02:42.21 | Lily | So we haven't committed to doing that. |
| 01:02:43.90 | Ray Withy | Right. Okay. |
| 01:02:47.98 | Lily | Okay. |
| 01:02:48.39 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 01:02:48.83 | Lily | Thank you. |
| 01:02:48.98 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 01:02:51.29 | Thomas Theodores | Lillie, could you go through the reports that are due to, I don't know if it's HCD or DOF, for the accessory dwelling units and presumably the liver boards? And... For any of these implementing programs, sort of a second related question is, what would be the consequence of our failure to actually perform and actually do what we've promised to do. |
| 01:03:24.79 | Lily | I think I can answer half of that question. So we're required to report to the State Department of Housing and Community Development on an annual basis. I think it's in April that we have to report to them on how it's going with our programs as far as the repercussions of not you know, the date that we set in here by |
| 01:03:45.80 | Unknown | the day. |
| 01:03:47.82 | Lily | you know, mid-2013, and if it hasn't occurred, you know, until the end of the year, I'm not sure what kind of ramifications |
| 01:03:47.89 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:03:55.13 | Lily | Thank you. |
| 01:03:55.18 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 01:03:55.21 | Lily | Thank you. that haven't. I don't know if Jeremy knows. but it's something that I could look into if the council would |
| 01:04:02.87 | Ray Withy | Lily? Mr. Mayor? Did you want to answer it? Yeah, could I? Oh, it was related to that, |
| 01:04:07.11 | Thomas Theodores | Yeah, can I go straight? |
| 01:04:08.51 | Lily | Thank you. |
| 01:04:09.20 | Thomas Theodores | Yeah. In the... table that I think came out of the housing element that you provided as attachment to, which was very helpful. You put in there on the 10B implementing program that depending upon the report, then the housing element may have to be amended. |
| 01:04:38.33 | Lily | So that's related to the EDU specifically? |
| 01:04:41.26 | Thomas Theodores | Yeah, and so, The question is, well, what are the parameters that would be examined? Is it just simply number of units that have actually come on board in that particular time period? And what would then be the timetable and process of amending the element if, because that's what we say we would have to do depending upon the report, |
| 01:05:04.05 | Ava | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:05:06.80 | Thomas Theodores | And then by the time you're into that, you're into 2014, and so the final question is, Well, when is the earliest that you can actually submit a new housing element for the 2015 the 22 cycle, when's the earliest you could actually submit it? Wouldn't you be amending an update at the same time you possibly could submit a new one? So I know you're not going to have the answers to that. But I think it's worth just putting this projection out by another 12 months and just asking the question, how does this look? |
| 01:05:25.44 | Unknown | be Yep. |
| 01:05:42.57 | Thomas Theodores | Did any, am I sort of completely off the rails here? |
| 01:05:46.42 | Lily | Thank you. Thank you. My understanding is that it will be, again, a negotiation with HCD in terms of how well we're performing. you know, we're going to be reporting to them It says here in 2000. 13. and I think it's an unknown right now as far as what they think is good and what they think is bad and what that will mean for us in terms of how many units we'll have to make up for. And then as for the date, as far as when we have to have another housing element in, that I don't have off the top of my head either right now. |
| 01:06:25.79 | Ray Withy | Mr. Mayor? As a follow-up to Ray's question, my question is, I recall that Fairfax fell short on their ADUs, and it's my understanding, is it the case that HCD had them, kind of worked with them, and they went back and they kind of revised their ADU policy to enhance the incentives for amnesty and building new ADUs? Is that one possible venue that HCD might provide guidance? |
| 01:07:04.16 | Lily | provide guidance. I'm not familiar with the Fairfax situation, but I think that's something that we could work with them on. I think, again, like last year, going through the housing element update, there's nothing written in stone as far as what they want to see from us. But I think that's a great idea if we have ideas of how we can amend the ordinance to incentivize, if that's the problem. |
| 01:07:19.30 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:07:29.78 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:07:31.14 | Lily | Thank you. |
| 01:07:31.18 | Ray Withy | Okay, do you have a question? |
| 01:07:32.65 | Lily | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:07:33.37 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Any comments from the public at this time? Sweeney Nunn, let's bring it back up here. |
| 01:07:42.16 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:07:43.58 | Ray Withy | Do you have any comments? |
| 01:07:44.97 | Ava | No. |
| 01:07:47.29 | Ray Withy | Mr. Mayor, I have a comment. I think in going forward with the implementation, the key here is going to be public outreach and communication. I was happy to hear that Lilly will be sending emails out to the distribution list of the community leaders who were very interested in this topic. And of course, they'll be going through the normal process of the planning commission review for the public hearing. But I also think it's important giving people the opportunity to weigh in along the process and in the design and development stage can only strengthen the final product. Thank you. Any other comments? |
| 01:08:32.03 | Ava | right |
| 01:08:33.41 | Thomas Theodores | I'd just like to make the point that the amount of work laid out there is a lot of work. And once we decided to submit it and get a housing element certified, which was a goal that we worked very hard for a long period of time, it means that this work is now absolutely necessary and we've got to get it done. Otherwise, we could really hurt ourselves. |
| 01:08:39.27 | Ava | Yeah. |
| 01:08:59.30 | Ray Withy | Thank you very much. And, Lily, once again, thank you for an excellent job. on getting this to where we are. Thank you. All right, since there's no, I believe there's no action required, just the information. Okay, thank you. |
| 01:10:03.04 | Jonathon Goldman | I'm your city engineer. I'm passed out. I found a couple typos in the staff report in your packet, so I've corrected them and highlighted them. This item is a |
| 01:10:15.90 | Unknown | highlight. |
| 01:10:25.40 | Jonathon Goldman | This item is a clean up from a very, very, very old effort. With your action tonight, I think we can wrap this up. |
| 01:10:49.19 | Jonathon Goldman | It was in the presentations on the on the desktop. |
| 01:10:58.37 | Jonathon Goldman | No, the one down. Right there. |
| 01:11:04.83 | Jonathon Goldman | Yep. |
| 01:11:11.40 | Jonathon Goldman | There was one this afternoon Let's go back up. Let's go to the 1.8. There we go. |
| 01:11:24.90 | Jonathon Goldman | I wasn't there this afternoon, so. Okay. Okay. All right? In the 90s, there's a lot of community interest in forming undergrounding districts. |
| 01:11:45.52 | Jonathon Goldman | I can get my |
| 01:11:50.87 | Jonathon Goldman | Oh. And there were three that were very active. This is to the Her...Bulkley, which is shown in this map, and then Third Street from North Street down to Valley, and then Santa Rosa, which was a far larger with about 150 lots affected. To get an undergrounding project going requires some seed funding to develop maps, to develop cost estimates and work scopes. At some point in the process, affected neighborhoods are offered a referendum to vote to form it or not, and that will allow... two things that will allow the city to partner with PG&E to tap in to some funds that they set aside for the undergrounding of their main distribution lines. and it will also allow the city to form due debt financing for the costs that aren't supported by those PG&E resources. |
| 01:13:03.53 | Unknown | uh, |
| 01:13:11.31 | Jonathon Goldman | of course. |
| 01:13:11.90 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:13:16.48 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 01:13:18.89 | Jonathon Goldman | Well, in the 1990s, advocacy groups formed. The way it was structured after doing it, essentially three lead advocates were established by each group, and the city worked with those lead advocates. They provide the city deposits, and then with that that the city hired some consultants to do some planning. We were very vigorous. We have binders full of plans that were developed for these three districts. But with some staff turnover, with some waning interest, people move, come and go in the neighborhood. um, uh, these plans, even though they were developed, the support to adopt those started to wane And in 2006, the city had expended a lot of resources of its own to get these things going and in an effort to reconcile The city council has presented with... the status of the San Carlos Underground District, and after hearing the report, the Council terminated that work. All the seed money that had been used had been exhausted, plus $240,000 in general funds. So at that time, the council gave direction that no more work was to proceed on advancing undergrounding districts without the full support of the advocates. The advocates weren't supporting, so more or less it stalled. |
| 01:14:56.44 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:14:59.97 | Jonathon Goldman | But even though the San Carlos District had a deficit or loans to the general fund, there were positive fund balances in the accounts that the city set up for the Third Street and the Bulkley Street. But with the current staff, we didn't know who, where the money was or who the money came from. We really didn't know what to do with these resources. We knew that they needed to go back. to the property owners or the depositors, but we didn't know how to do that. So in 2010, we presented this conundrum that we're in where we had these resources, but we didn't know who to give them to. So you authorize the termination of those projects. You authorize us to do a claims notification process to the depositors. And you also said if that work was concluded by June 30, 2011, the unrefunded amounts should go back into the general fund. Well, we found that the departments weren't quite talking to each other, and with the close of the books in fiscal year 2010-2011, those funds were swept into the general fund, but we hadn't done the claims notification process. So we did that claims notification process last spring. We sent out 98 notifications to the 51 known and former property owners and residents of Third Street, and we did 29 notifications to the 20 known and former property owners |
| 01:16:30.03 | Unknown | No. |
| 01:16:44.86 | Jonathon Goldman | Bulkley. We gave them from April to June to submit evidence and information. We received six claims for third. We received three claims for bulkly. They also provide us a bunch of information that we're missing. So I think we've got a pretty good picture of what happened now. We learned that when the deposits were made in roughly 1996, the lead. The lead advocate representing 23 depositors deposited $11,799 for a third. and the lead advocate for Folkly, representing nine depositors provided $11,750 We did draw down some of those resources to develop the plans, but as reported, we didn't use all of those funds. So when we closed out those books, there was $2,017 and $8,554. So there's some resources to provide the depositors. But the challenge is the claims for the Third Street exceed what we have. People provided anywhere from $500 to $1,000 for the Third Street individual deposits, and the bulkly depositors gave from $1,000 to $3,000. how to refund those monies. can't do it the same way and I would desire to be fair, equitable, and consistent. And I can't come up with a test that satisfies those three parameters. We provided essentially two alternatives that we think are worthy of your consideration. We recommend Alternative 1, but I'll go through them. Alternative 1 says that we have these fund balances to the extent that people deposited their deposit. If we have the resources, we can fully refund them. If we don't have the resources to fully refund them, then we should refund them to the extent that we draw down that fund balance completely. And alternative one will do that. The second alternative we evaluate, well, they started with roughly $11,700 at the beginning and bulkly had $8,000 at the end. The third had $2,000 at the end. What's the... percentage of expense to that account occur? you and then we we determine that factor and then come up with a deposit amount. So in the second scenario, People are getting, Third Street's getting 17%, Volkly's getting 72%. Under the first one, Third Street gets 57.8 and the Volkly depositors get 100% of their refund. Alternative 1 totally draws down the Third Street fund, but because we didn't get enough claims for the Volkly one, there still are funds in the general fund. Um, The advantages of Alternative 1 is I don't think the people made their deposit to subsidize the general fund, so it gets those monies back into the depositors' pockets. The disadvantage is it's not consistent between the project funds. The second one is consistent between the project funds, we have fund balances left in the general fund, which I don't think the depositors wanted. So with that, staff is recommending that you adopt the attached resolution that uses method one, but there's four actions in there. |
| 01:20:56.57 | Unknown | we have. |
| 01:21:18.76 | Jonathon Goldman | At the close of the fiscal year 2010-2011, we swept those monies out of these individual accounts into the general fund. This resolution will move those funds from the general fund back into the accounts so that we can pay the refunds. Staff is recommending that you appropriate $2,016 from the general fund to the Third Street Undergrounding District Fund. We're recommending that you appropriate $5,000 from the general fund to the Bulkley Undergrounding District, that you refund Third Street claims up to 57.8 percent of the original individual deposits, that you refund the underground for Bulkley at 100 percent of the original deposits. And then one point that I didn't make is the claimants that had responded requested that they get an individual payment and that we don't reimburse the lead advocate. So what we would do is if you authorize this resolution, we would provide the lead advocates a notification that the claimants were refunded the amounts and that we send checks to the individuals. So with that, staff concluded our report. This is the summary of the people who made claims and how much they deposited originally and how much they're going to, if you approve this resolution, what they'll get back. |
| 01:22:57.73 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 01:22:57.75 | Ray Withy | Okay. |
| 01:22:57.90 | Ray Withy | Thank you, Todd. Any questions here? |
| 01:22:58.10 | Ray Withy | Mm-hmm. Yeah, Todd, is there any, I mean, you know, this is so long ago with some of this stuff, there's no records of what was actually spent for either funds. You know, the underlying premise of the giving in the bulk of the everybody their money back who put a claim in says that basically there's no work that was done on that district, but in actuality somebody spent some time messing around with that district. |
| 01:23:25.10 | Ava | Right. |
| 01:23:25.41 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 01:23:26.02 | Ray Withy | The flip side of that, um, Now I know when I got my, I'm on Third Street. I don't remember. I know I was in here for some meetings about this 14 years ago. um, But then that movement on that stopped as far as going through the city. and, The part of Third Street that has been underground, the woman who paid for that basically didn't even submit her claim to get her own money back and she put in much more than this as a deposit, right? Which is unfortunate, but that's her personality type, as you know. So to me it's unfortunate. I mean, she's expended a great deal of money to underground that street. The main trunk. I don't know what her deposit was, but she should get it back as much as these other folks. The other folks, some of them don't live on that part of the street that was underground, so they should get their money back. um, because they got no benefit of it, as much benefit out of it as the people who lived on Bulkley did, which is nothing at the end of the day except for the process went forward. |
| 01:24:25.13 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 01:24:29.21 | Jonathon Goldman | And Mr. Carlson, |
| 01:24:30.95 | Ray Withy | Yeah, I know he wants to give hers to Stephanie, and that's great. He's a good neighbor to do that. But I know she'd probably put in, If my memory is correct, $2,000 or $3,000 in deposit. She funded most of this and then 14 years later just undergrounded the street herself. Well, you persuaded her, though. No, no, no. Believe me, I tried to persuade her not to do it because of how much it probably costs, which I don't think any of us really figured out. So it seems like... |
| 01:24:54.10 | Ray Withy | No, no, no, she, she, believe me, I tried to persuade her not to do it. |
| 01:24:58.41 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:24:58.78 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:25:07.55 | Ray Withy | in some ways, forget the Since there is no equity between how we're refunding money here, some get 100, some get 17%, you might as well just treat it as one pool of money, because that's essentially what you're doing anyway. |
| 01:25:22.51 | Jonathon Goldman | the record. |
| 01:25:23.05 | Ava | you |
| 01:25:23.10 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 01:25:23.25 | Ava | you |
| 01:25:23.40 | Jonathon Goldman | you |
| 01:25:23.57 | Ava | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:25:28.09 | Ray Withy | But since there's no equity in how you're dividing the refunds up between the two, because work was done on this one and work was done on the other one in terms of city time and whatever that money was supposed to go to. is of the remainder that's left over in the bulk lease that are sweeping into the general fund. She'll at least refund this woman some money, given that she spent probably I don't even want to guess and put it on public record, a significant amount of her own money doing it twice because she moved the poll and then undergrounded the whole thing. because people didn't like where she moved the poll to. so I would think that would be a nice gesture on the part of the city to do. Thank you. given that Once the money goes into the general fund, it just goes into the, you know, falls into the cracks of, I don't want, this is why people don't give money to the city to do things, and not blaming you because this was even before your time. Um, because the city doesn't keep a good track of it when it kind of goes into certain pots. |
| 01:26:31.42 | Unknown | Hot. |
| 01:26:31.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:26:35.27 | Ray Withy | I would suggest that as maybe as an alternative to these two things because It's good that both the guys get their money back. That's great. because I don't know why the other people, I didn't submit a claim. I can't even remember if I put money in or not in 14 years of check records, it's gone, so I don't care. So, but you know, there might be a way to |
| 01:27:03.10 | Ava | Sorry. |
| 01:27:03.94 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:27:03.97 | Ava | That was fun. |
| 01:28:51.55 | Ray Withy | So you did the best at reaching out to get people. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying more... my major point amongst my diatribe was more that if we refund the bulk of the people in full, there's only four claimants or three claimants and you'll have money left over. that you just take that money and throw it over to the other side and you can refund the people who didn't benefit from any undergrounding. in whole, Um, and then still have some money to refund to the person who paid for the undergrounding at the end of the day, just as a gesture, I think that would be you know, I don't know. Given the |
| 01:29:29.45 | Unknown | you |
| 01:29:33.91 | Ray Withy | public good she has paid for on that street. And I say that not because I tried to keep her from doing this, but she was intent on doing it. Um, I don't know if I have to recuse myself here or not, but I have no financial gain or benefit anymore from this. So it's just a thought. |
| 01:29:52.54 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 01:29:54.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:29:56.27 | Mary Wagner | Mr. Mayor, if I can. |
| 01:29:57.11 | Unknown | if I can... I shouldn't repeat that. . |
| 01:29:60.00 | Mary Wagner | Mr. Mayor, can I make a suggestion or add to the |
| 01:30:00.89 | Unknown | Make sure. |
| 01:30:03.29 | Mary Wagner | DISCUSSION. that if there's a desire to refund money to someone who didn't submit a claim, We need to ensure that they submit some kind of evidence of payment to the city so we can avoid a gift of public funds problem. I'll... |
| 01:30:20.82 | Ray Withy | I'm not going to do it. |
| 01:30:21.70 | Mary Wagner | Oh, no. |
| 01:30:22.04 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:30:22.46 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:30:22.61 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:30:22.81 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:30:22.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:30:23.12 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:30:23.13 | Unknown | Not tonight, though. |
| 01:30:25.63 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:30:25.65 | Unknown | I don't know. Thank you. |
| 01:30:27.69 | Ray Withy | I don't know, maybe let's get out to the comments. |
| 01:30:28.57 | Ray Withy | Yeah. |
| 01:30:33.11 | Ray Withy | All right, well, any other questions here? All right, Todd, at this time, any comment from the public? Okay, let's bring it back up here. How do we move this ahead on some... |
| 01:30:51.50 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:30:54.82 | Unknown | Amen. Thank you. |
| 01:30:56.77 | Ray Withy | Yeah. |
| 01:30:57.54 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:30:57.59 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:30:57.61 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:30:58.30 | Ray Withy | Just let it be. |
| 01:30:59.60 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:30:59.62 | Ray Withy | Yeah. Okay. Okay. Want to get a recommendation? |
| 01:31:01.10 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:31:08.83 | Ray Withy | Okay, staff recommends that the City Council adopt the attached resolution authorizing appropriating $216 from the general fund into the Third Street Underground District Fund, Fund 347, number one. Number two, appropriating, do we have to do this individually? Can I read them all off? Sure. Okay. Appropriating $5,000 from the general fund into the Buckley Avenue Underground District Fund, Fund 340. Refund of 3rd Street Underground District Deposits, Fund 347, at 57.8% of claimed original deposit to individual depositor claimants. Number four, refund of Buckley Avenue Underground District Deposits Fund 340 at 72.8% of claimed original deposit to individual depositor claimants. |
| 01:32:05.87 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:32:08.03 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:32:08.05 | Ray Withy | Okay. How about this as an amendment to your motion, then you add claimants received as, what's today? 15th? How about the end of the month, by the end of January? Proven claimants, and then if you get any additional ones, there it is. |
| 01:32:30.29 | Ray Withy | Right, we'll deal with it then. Yes. |
| 01:32:39.18 | Ray Withy | Does that make sense? Give people 15 more days. Is that okay with you? |
| 01:32:42.27 | Ray Withy | Is that okay with you? I could live with that. Sarabay, we in. Okay. All right. |
| 01:32:56.97 | Unknown | Boatry Avenue. |
| 01:32:58.67 | Unknown | You just had it out there. It's like, what is it? It's 100%. |
| 01:33:03.12 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. It doesn't |
| 01:33:15.06 | Ray Withy | So we'll hear you, Todd. We can hear you. |
| 01:33:16.03 | Jonathon Goldman | The corrected report says the ratio is 57.8% refund for 3rd Street, 100% refund for Boakley. And that was the intent. There was a, the report in your draft called for 57.8 in the Boakley, and that was an error. but the resolution in your draft called for 57.8 in the bulk and that was an error. But the resolution in your report is accurate. |
| 01:33:17.33 | Ray Withy | There he is, it's on. |
| 01:33:36.06 | Unknown | Uh, |
| 01:33:43.93 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 01:33:48.38 | Ray Withy | Okay. All right, so we're all in agreement of that? Or you're... |
| 01:33:53.77 | Ray Withy | You gotta call the roll. |
| 01:33:56.20 | Ray Withy | DEVICE. |
| 01:33:56.48 | Ray Withy | you Was there a second to the motion, by the way? Could I amend it? I made the amendment and then. I'll second it as amended. I'll second. |
| 01:33:59.96 | Jonathon Goldman | No, there wasn't no, sir. It's all second in it. |
| 01:34:04.57 | Thomas Theodores | I'll say. |
| 01:34:05.39 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:34:05.61 | Thomas Theodores | Thank you. |
| 01:34:05.63 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:34:05.66 | Thomas Theodores | I don't know. |
| 01:34:05.83 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:34:05.87 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:34:05.90 | Ray Withy | you |
| 01:34:05.97 | Ray Withy | you |
| 01:34:06.03 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:34:06.05 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:34:06.10 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:34:06.12 | Thomas Theodores | Thank you. |
| 01:34:06.14 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:34:06.54 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:34:06.62 | Ray Withy | OK? |
| 01:34:10.40 | Ray Withy | All in favor. |
| 01:34:14.68 | Ray Withy | and I'm not obligated to get in this. |
| 01:34:16.06 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:34:16.95 | Ray Withy | Yeah, take it roll. |
| 01:34:18.81 | Unknown | Councilmember Fiver. Yes. Councilmember Theodore. |
| 01:34:24.77 | Thomas Theodores | Yes. |
| 01:34:26.81 | Unknown | Councilmember Whitney. |
| 01:34:28.07 | Thomas Theodores | Yes. |
| 01:34:29.91 | Unknown | Bye, Samir Leon. |
| 01:34:30.88 | Thomas Theodores | I'm sorry. |
| 01:34:31.03 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:34:32.66 | Unknown | Mayor Weiner. |
| 01:34:33.78 | Ray Withy | Yes. OK. Thank you, Todd. |
| 01:34:37.30 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:34:38.37 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 01:34:38.60 | Ray Withy | you |
| 01:34:38.65 | Ray Withy | Okay, next item that we have is the award priority 1B sewer rehabilitation project, Spinnaker anchor construction contract and construction management contract. Jonathan Goldman. |
| 01:34:38.69 | Ray Withy | Okay. |
| 01:35:21.50 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Mr. Vice Mayor, members of council, staff, folks here in the audience and folks who can hopefully see at home at this point. This is a convoluted item, which I apologize for. I prepared a PowerPoint earlier today, which I just handed copies of out with the intent to make it less convoluted. I'm sure you'll let me know how successful I am later on in the evening. |
| 01:35:52.89 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 01:35:52.90 | Jonathon Goldman | Yeah. |
| 01:35:52.97 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 01:35:53.55 | Jonathon Goldman | The summary of the item is we, for several years, have been attempting to deliver a priority sewer project that will rehabilitate the Anchor Street wastewater lift station, which is there in the corner of Municipal Lot 1. We'll replace the underground sewer under Humboldt Avenue and replace the sewer line that serves the pump house at Sausalito Yacht Harbor, their Chandlery building and their tenants, as well as the Spinnaker restaurant. This project, because of the financial magnitude, is one that was identified as a priority in advance of the adoption of our current |
| 01:37:11.36 | Ava | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:37:21.46 | Unknown | How's that? |
| 01:37:28.33 | Jonathon Goldman | It's going yellow now. I'll talk really fast. |
| 01:37:37.01 | Jonathon Goldman | So the project was originally conceived and the current sewer rates were adopted with state revolving fund financing built into the economic model, if you will. With SRF approval, the sewer enterprise has the opportunity to borrow money at 2.6% per year, which allows us to leverage the backlog of capital improvements that we have and pay for them over a much longer period of time. This project was previously designed and bid, and the bids were allowed to expire because |
| 01:38:30.82 | Ray Withy | It's important to get it on tape. |
| 01:39:03.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:39:03.81 | Jonathon Goldman | that. |
| 01:39:04.33 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:39:08.55 | Jonathon Goldman | Again, we lost the vice mayor. The, because of an oversight on staff's part, we were not in a position to get approval to award from the state revolving fund with the prior bidding of the project. So we allowed those bids to expire. We came back to council. and got approval to update the design, to refresh the design, bring the specifications and the plans up to current standards for the state revolving fund. That project was rebid and the bids opened. We have evaluated the bids. We have provided complete copies of the bids to the state revolving fund staff to get their help in evaluating their compliance with disadvantaged business enterprise requirements, which are a part of the package. In addition, we have submitted an approval to award request to the state. If the state does not approve the award, pretty much no matter what the council does, let me rephrase that, we're not asking the council to unilaterally approve award tonight because we want to make sure that the state revolving fund approves of award before we get into a contractual, uh... award situation. Um, In addition, and this is where some of the convolutions to this project come in, Um, the, amount of state revolving fund financing available is, to us, is greater than the current appropriation available in the budget for the sewer portion of portions of the project. In addition, we have non-sewer portions, in other words, sidewalk construction, paving, There is a bicycle facility that we kind of baked into the plans for the project that are not eligible for state revolving fund financing and aren't eligible to be funded by the sewer enterprise. Um, And we need because of the location of this project, It's sensitivity with respect to the activities in Municipal Lot 1, Humboldt Avenue, you know, the congestion and bus traffic, tourists, et cetera, in that area, it is really critical that this project be managed very carefully and very judiciously. While in the past we might have been a little bit more relaxed about the level of construction management that we ask you to authorize, in this case we're asking for a significant level of construction management. We issued requests for proposals and qualifications and fairly critically evaluated the proposals that we've received and are asking you to award that contract and appropriate the funds for that work this evening as well. Again, all of this is contingent if the state revolving fund does not approve award of the sewer project, then there's no reason for us to go forward with any of this in this context. We would have to come back with a different program for doing so. I'm optimistic that we'll get that approval of award, but we don't have it this evening. It has only been applied for. |
| 01:42:35.96 | Unknown | I think it's a good question. |
| 01:42:49.41 | Jonathon Goldman | A couple of issues, and some of these have come up since the staff report went out, and hopefully this presentation and other information I've been able to provide has helped clarify things. We were successful in receiving a grant from Transportation Fund for Clean Air to construct a bicycle facility. and knowing that we had applied for that grant, knowing that We had this construction contract going out to bid, we rolled the plans for that in kind of broad terms as a construction bidder, The bidder needs to know how many linear feet of curb and gutter are involved, how many linear feet of sidewalk or bicycle pavement are involved. They don't need to know exactly where it's going to go. So the conceptual plan that we included with the bid package was adequate for us to get prices to do that. that facility has not. The final design has not been approved by Council and has not been submitted for planning approval. even though we've received, we've been notified that we have the $83,000, and we certainly want to take advantage of that and construct a facility that Council and the Planning Department or Planning Commission, as appropriate, approves of. Further, there are non-sewer improvements that also need approvals and funding. And The point there is that in addition to the bicycle facility, we also have conceptual plans for curb, gutter, and sidewalk improvements on the other side of the street. And those aren't eligible for funding. under TIFFCA because they're not bicycle facilities. They're not an improvement that's eligible for state revolving fund or for payment by the sewer enterprise. in our judgment they're really prime candidates for The transportation administration grant that the Golden Gate Bridge, the Ferry District, has been successful in getting that Council has authorized us to negotiate a pass-through agreement with. But as of tonight, we don't have that pass-through agreement in place, and I can't ask you to appropriate funds from that pass-through agreement, but I can ask you to appropriate funding for the pieces of non-bicycle facility that have to be done at the same time. In other words, pieces of that project that exceed the $83,000 available. assuming we're successful in negotiating that path through agreement and being able to bring more money to the table, we would then come back to Council, assuming that the rest of the project is... uh, I'm going to go. approved by the Council and approved by the Planning Commission, we could then come back and request additional appropriations to build those. That's confusing. Bless you. |
| 01:46:03.24 | Ray Withy | Mary, would you shut that door? Thanks. It's cold. It's cold. Thank you. |
| 01:46:06.75 | Jonathon Goldman | Well, I also have a window open because we did some painting in here today, and I haven't heard any complaint about the smell. Just as a reminder, and for the benefit of council members who are new to the dais since the TIFFCA grant So, was applied for in September. Just some background on Transportation Fund for Clean Air. Um, what those funds are generally used for. Um... Transportation Authority of Marin is the agency that administers those grants. TAM issued a call for projects and then through our council representatives and some successful communication, I think, on staff's part with TAM staff. We were successful in getting that bicycle facility funded. As part of the grant, it's intended to be a Class I path, which means it's off street. on Humboldt Avenue between Anchor and Bay. It's an extension of work that was begun with the non-motorized transportation pilot project, Bridgeway to Ferry Landing project, which resulted in the sidewalk improvements on Anchor and Bay that you can see today. Um, The humble path also builds upon the Ferryland and Gate 6 Road planning project. which was another non-motorized transportation planning project. project. That's project at like four times in one sentence. Sorry about that. Over the last four years, staff and numerous members of the community and the Council have participated in both of the non-motorized transportation pilot project workshops and development process. During that time period we've also utilized the expertise of Walker Parking Consultants, Royston, Hanamoto, Alley & Abby, CSW Stuber-Stroh, Sandus Civil Engineers, Parisi Associates, and Alta Planning and Design in both developing the original concept, which is what you saw in September that went in with the grant application, this being Humboldt, Bia Bay here, Anchor, Bay Street, Lot 3 to the left, Lot 1 to the right, and then this is Sausalito Yacht Harbor parking. |
| 01:48:38.51 | Jonathon Goldman | And then I'll show you the current draft plan, but just in discussion about that plan. The bicycle facility is intended to serve commuter bicyclists who either park community lot 3 and ride, or otherwise ride from points north to the ferry landing for transit to San Francisco in the mornings. It's planned as a shared path. In the presence of pedestrians, bicyclists would be expected to dismount and walk. Bicyclists right now cannot legally ride against one-way vehicular traffic on Humboldt Avenue. Let me go back here. |
| 01:48:39.65 | Unknown | Thank you. Oh. |
| 01:49:10.62 | Jonathon Goldman | Humboldt is one way from anchor to bay. So bicyclists who parking lot three or come in that way, and as an occasional bicyclist, Given the alternative to come off of Bridgeway and ride through the Muni lots with improvements that we've recently made, it's really preferable to riding on Bridgeway. But it's not legal for a bicyclist to ride against traffic on the traveled way right now. Well, ever. And the existing off-street facility there, for those of you who are familiar, isn't adequate. Certainly not for riding a bicycle on that sidewalk, and arguably not for walking. When the morning bicycle commute is over, the proposed facility would be available to pedestrians visiting or who have parked and are walking to downtown destinations or returning to their parked vehicles. End of the day, somebody who gets off the boat on their bicycle is riding on the traveled way. They don't need an off-street bicycle facility. They're quite capable of moving with traffic, with vehicular traffic in that area. If approved and constructed, the Humboldt Avenue improvements, including the bike facility, would reduce the number of public parking spaces on the west side of Humboldt to five from the 12 that existed there before the bridgeway to ferry landing improvements were constructed. The reduction results in part from widening of the sidewalk, and I'll show you a drawing to that effect in a minute, and conversion of diagonal head-end parking to parallel parking. reduction is also a result from improvements to the entry to and exit from Uni-Lot 2. There's, as you are probably well aware, one narrow driveway in and out of Lot 2 at the moment. That driveway would be split into two separate driveways, making both entry to the lot and exit from the lot safer and better conformed to current design standards than what's there now. Finally, as was the case with the bridgeway to fair landing improvements that you're familiar with, the sidewalks along Anchor and Bay, the resulting pedestrian facilities that serve residents and visitors, including parking patrons, will eliminate barriers to accessibility for persons using wheelchairs or walkers who are subject under existing conditions to rough, disjointed, narrow paths of travel with areas of excessive cross slopes. So here's the draft overall drawing. It's a little bit hard to see, so I've provided a couple of... This is a little fuzzy. I apologize for that. At the Bay Street end, this isn't even showing it, but this conforms to the to the existing bulb out that MR PRICE. Bridgeway to Ferry Landing project constructed. But it fills in the gap between the existing sidewalk and distance out into the street. This area right now is taken up by hidden diagonal parking. It constructs the entry driveway approach to the muni lot here, and then the exit is on the other side, and would construct this bicycle facility in addition to just a wider sidewalk. So the bicycle facility gets constructed and marked as a bicycle facility that a bicyclist riding out of Lot 3 can crossing the crosswalk and continue to ride to anchor, and crossing the crosswalk and ride into Muni Lot 1. And then again, when there aren't bicycles there, all of this space is then available for pedestrians. On the other end, same thing. This conforms to the existing curb configuration at the return from anchor, changes to parallel parking in this area. I didn't talk in detail about the other side of Humboldt because at the moment we're not asking for an appropriation or approval for that. Um, We're trying to take advantage of the $83,000 TIFFCA grant and request the appropriation and contingent authorization to award the contract for that. We aren't ready to do the rest, and as I said earlier, we don't even have your approval or Planning Commission approval if it's necessary of the other pieces. What we are asking for, as indicated in the staff reports, there's currently $862,000 available and unencumbered for sewer construction. in order to come up to the full amount, knowing the bid amount exceeds that. and coming up to the full amount authorized under state revolving fund We are requesting an additional appropriation of $87,938 from the sewer enterprise. There are no funds available and unencumbered in the adopted budget for any non-sewer parts of this project. appropriate from the CIP Fund the $83,000 that we will get back from the TIFFCa grant. And for those pieces of the west side of Humboldt and construction management and related things that need to be done, to leverage that. grant, we're asking you to appropriate another $117,710 with the understanding that it's our intent to try to have the Ferry Grant shore-side improvements cover those costs. So the total construction budget for this project that we're requesting contingent approval for is $1.15 million. the construction management amounts that we're asking for, Um, There are no dollars available in sewer, and as I think I mentioned in the um, In the staff report, the way the state revolving fund application was originally submitted, there was, as I recall, $950,000 for construction, $50,000 for administration. There's a separate line item in that application for construction management. And I'm not sure that we can transfer the 50 to construction management, but we will make an effort to do that. And if we can't do that, we can at least recover $50,000 in city administrative costs from the state revolving fund to offset the construction management costs. But in order to enter into that contract, uh... which is a total of $187,000. Council needs to appropriate $157,000. That's the sewer proportion of the construction management from the sewer enterprise. And again, $0 available in non-sewer. So, we're asking Council to appropriate $30,000 from the CIP fund to cover the non-sewer construction management associated with the whole project. and with the intent to get those costs reimbursed under the ferry grant. So that total $187,000 in appropriations that we're requesting this evening. Next steps, and this is kind of important given the the convolutions, so I thought it was important to put it up, to say it out loud, to put it with appropriations and adoption of the resolutions. are order of business or one of our more significant orders of business is to wait for approval from the State Revolving Fund. If that doesn't happen, none of the rest of this is as important. Once approval of a ward is received, the sewer project, Notice to proceed can be issued to the contractor and the construction manager. The first deliverable, and I went into this a little bit in the staff report. I mentioned it a few minutes ago. The first deliverable is a detailed schedule. It is critical that this contractor or not. leave open excavations when You know, we've got tour buses coming into town. This project has to be sequenced very fluidly, and all kinds of contingencies need to be addressed as part of the scheduling process. At the same time, it's staff's responsibility to finalize the plans for the bicycle facility the facilities related to the bicycle facility that aren't covered by the grant, as well as the non-bicycle facilities. get Ferry Shoreside Grant funding commitments for all of that if possible, not counting the TIFFCA, get council and planning approvals for those facilities. Without those, they can't be constructed. And we can't tell the contractor that those alternates, that the contractor is authorized to construct those alternates. with those necessary approvals, then we can notify the contractor to construct those facilities. So certainly there will be subsequent approval items before the council and to the extent the Planning Commission has jurisdiction, the Planning Commission, before these facilities can be constructed. |
| 01:59:25.58 | Jonathon Goldman | So our recommendation is to adopt two resolutions, and I can go back to these. |
| 01:59:45.95 | Jonathon Goldman | But there's basically a, I may even have multiple copies of this. The first involves a contingent award of the construction contract, including the recommended budget appropriations. And then the second is contingent authorization of the construction management contract along with the required appropriations. With that, I am available to answer questions. |
| 02:00:20.61 | Ray Withy | Okay, thank you, Jonathan. Questions? |
| 02:00:26.28 | Ray Withy | Mr. Mayor, I have questions. |
| 02:00:27.17 | Ray Withy | I'm sorry. |
| 02:00:30.53 | Ray Withy | So, Jonathan, you remember the powder keg, you know, ish meetings we had with regards to some of the bicycle issues with this multi-use class one. And, you know, I'm not... passing any judgment on the |
| 02:00:46.34 | Unknown | on |
| 02:00:47.98 | Ray Withy | But my question is, why was this class one multi-use bicycle path bundled in an agenda item that the public sees as sewer rehabilitation project? |
| 02:01:04.03 | Jonathon Goldman | It's a lack of clarity on my part. It's bundled in because it was bundled in with the construction plans. |
| 02:01:12.92 | Ray Withy | Was this project discussed at OMIT or the Finance Committees? |
| 02:01:21.61 | Jonathon Goldman | No. The discussion with respect, if you're referring to the bicycle facility, the discussion was to authorize us to apply for the grant. And that happened at full council. |
| 02:01:40.48 | Ray Withy | Does 11, is it 1132? 1128. 1128, I get the numbers always mixed up. |
| 02:01:45.12 | Jonathon Goldman | 11 to 28. |
| 02:01:50.97 | Ray Withy | Because we're losing five parking spaces here, doesn't that, you know, has a legal analysis been conducted regarding the impact of this proposal with that ordinance? |
| 02:02:04.73 | Jonathon Goldman | I think that's probably a question for the city attorney. We're losing more than five parking spaces on Humboldt Avenue when compared with what was there before the Bridgeway to Ferry Landing project was constructed. The ordinance relates to the municipal parking lots, and paraphrasing I sent copies of the ordinance out to all of you earlier this evening the ordinance simply says that the parking lots have to be used for parking and I think that for example people walking to and from their cars probably qualifies as a parking related use. And certainly to the extent that somebody drives to Sausalito and parks and takes their bicycle to the ferry and goes to the city, you know, I would argue that that too is a parking use. But it's not staff's jurisdiction, it's the council's jurisdiction to determine what compliance with the ordinance, I think. |
| 02:03:19.45 | Ray Withy | So then Jonathan, per your comment with Mary, I guess then I should direct my question to Mary. Mary, have you done an analysis with respect to Ordinance 1128 regarding the impact of this project |
| 02:03:36.02 | Mary Wagner | I have not done an analysis specific to this project, no, but I concur with what Jonathan just indicated when he spoke about Ordinance 1128 and its implications for this project. So 1128 does deal with municipal parking lots 1, 2, 3, and 4 and indicates that the land area, well, first that you can't sell or otherwise dispose of the parking lots without voter approval, you cannot change the land |
| 02:04:09.28 | Ray Withy | It's a lot of three. |
| 02:04:11.52 | Mary Wagner | I believe there's a quota, like 10%. I'm not done yet. There's other provisions as well, and I'm just scrolling through them as I'm reading them out to you. The public land areas can't be increased or decreased by greater than 5% for parking, if that's what you're referring to. And they can't be used for purposes other than parking lot purposes without voter approval. And it doesn't say parking lot only for car. You know, parking lot obviously means circulation and pedestrian access and ADA access and other things as well. |
| 02:04:13.18 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:04:13.90 | Unknown | THE END OF Thank you. |
| 02:04:14.44 | Ray Withy | I believe you It has a quota like 10%. |
| 02:04:32.36 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:04:32.38 | Ava | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:04:32.69 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:04:37.78 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 02:04:37.97 | Unknown | AND IT DOESN'T BE ABLE TO |
| 02:04:48.97 | Ray Withy | or if you'll sing it. Are you reducing spaces in the lot or just in the right of way? No, just on the street on Humboldt. |
| 02:04:56.21 | Jonathon Goldman | the |
| 02:04:57.41 | Mary Wagner | And just to clarify too, it's parking lots 1, 2, 3, and 4. And I don't, what street is this affecting? Humboldt. |
| 02:05:03.69 | Jonathon Goldman | HUMBOLT. HUMBOLT. |
| 02:05:06.65 | Mary Wagner | And I don't know that that's encompassed in the definition of parking lots 1, 2, 3, or 4. |
| 02:05:12.80 | Jonathon Goldman | But in answer to your question, Mr. Vice Mayor, taking all of the |
| 02:05:12.85 | Thomas Theodores | THE FAMILY. IT'S NOT A FUN. IT'S NOT A FUN. |
| 02:05:18.82 | Jonathon Goldman | conceptual changes shown on the drawings on Humboldt Avenue. it is a it is a reduction from what was 12 to 5 parallel parking spaces. The number of spaces available for buses and other vehicles in the street stays the same, but it's Humboldt Avenue. |
| 02:05:43.71 | Ray Withy | It's in the avenue, not like two. |
| 02:05:45.64 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:05:45.65 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:05:45.67 | Ray Withy | No, it's on the outside, it's on the street. |
| 02:05:48.13 | Jonathon Goldman | It's in the public right of way, yes. |
| 02:05:50.68 | Ray Withy | that, Jonathan, it is impacting the parking lot because we are reducing parking spaces from 12 to 5. |
| 02:05:59.36 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:05:60.00 | Unknown | What's that? In a parking lot. |
| 02:06:00.89 | Ray Withy | Well, in a parking lot. That is in a parking lot. That's the street. Out the street. |
| 02:06:02.46 | Unknown | We are losing. out the street. |
| 02:06:06.19 | Ray Withy | Okay, a follow-up question would be, does this fall within the jurisdiction of the Historic Landmarks Board because it's downtown with regards to review? |
| 02:06:16.99 | Jonathon Goldman | for sidewalks. |
| 02:06:19.99 | Ray Withy | for the bicycle, the multi-use path. |
| 02:06:22.74 | Jonathon Goldman | which is basically a sidewalk. I don't know, but as I indicated during my presentation, I'm not going to presume that the planning approvals are or aren't necessary. That's a different department's responsibility, and we're committed, assuming that council Um, uh, adopts the project, if you will, when we bring it to Council for that purpose, then whatever approval design review or other approval processes required, we would comply with. |
| 02:06:59.04 | Ray Withy | Thank you, Jonathan. |
| 02:07:00.60 | Adam Politzer | Can I just weigh in here, Mr. Mayor? I just wanted to comment back on Councilmember Pfeiffer's question about OMIT or finance. The original conceptual plan that I think one version of that was up there earlier on Humboldt went to the OMIT committee. We had several hearings on it. And I believe that the planning commission also weighed in on this and we ended up exhausting the funds that were given on this part of the project just on the amount of OMIC committee meetings and planning commission meetings that this went back and forth to. The major debate was not the sidewalks, it was actually a debate that was being had with Michael Rex's involvement of the interest of having the buses pull in diagonal and creating a transit hub. And so that debate was the most significant debate. most significant debate, how the multi-use path gets used was most focused on the east side of Humboldt where you see the red line there. So the new information that Jonathan has shared about looking at that multi-use path now being on the west side is, you know, that is what is now being described. But I think it's important to recognize what Jonathan is stating. this process, be it on the west side, the east side, with landscape in the middle of it or just having a big wide sidewalk with pavement markings on it, that will all be hashed out and go through the appropriate approval process along the way. So this is just making sure that we have that flexibility at this moment in time so that we don't have to reinvent this once that process has been exhausted. |
| 02:09:06.74 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:09:06.75 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Okay, any other questions? Jonathan, just to go back to your bullets at the end. So right here, when you see number two, is that a finding the Project 1B, which is just the sewer aspect is exempt from the socio-zonering ordinance design review, or is that the bicycle, pedestrian, and the rest of it too? |
| 02:09:10.23 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 02:09:34.16 | Ray Withy | So it's 1B. It's referring to the one above. Yes. So it's not what you were just talking about. Okay. Okay. And my other question would be, So if you take it out of the CIP budget from somewhere else, What are you gonna take it out of? And it's not, you can't take it out of the sewer fund because basically this is your only project for the sewer fund for this year. And in the CIP budget, I'd kind of like to know where it would come out of. Let's assume that the ferry stuff doesn't come in a timely fashion. I'm assuming you're trying to...I don't know what your goal is here in terms of timing for this. Would it be this summer, or is that too accelerated? |
| 02:10:20.95 | Jonathon Goldman | Well, the problem with doing it in summer is that's the worst time in terms of conflict with others. |
| 02:10:23.85 | Ray Withy | It's the... |
| 02:10:24.07 | Unknown | Thank you. others. Next thought. |
| 02:10:28.23 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. um, At this point, I'm looking to the construction manager and the contractor, and the burden is mine, is staff's to develop the funding. |
| 02:10:40.48 | Ray Withy | His staff. If you had to guess. No, I mean just from a time, let's say the fund, forget the funding from a standpoint, if you had the money and when would you... Yeah, when were the desired groundbreaking sort of, realistically. |
| 02:10:58.65 | Jonathon Goldman | IN THE BEST. |
| 02:11:00.42 | Ray Withy | Oh, I |
| 02:11:00.96 | Jonathon Goldman | To be realistic. |
| 02:11:01.77 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Yes, not accelerated depreciation here. We went there, you know, would it be a year from now or? |
| 02:11:02.28 | Jonathon Goldman | No. |
| 02:11:07.81 | Jonathon Goldman | I think realistically it would best be constructed next winter. |
| 02:11:14.06 | Ray Withy | Okay. Okay, so then that's fine. So my question would be then what do we, from a timing standpoint, given that we'll still be, the money will be appropriated in this calendar year out of the CIP budget for both the construction management funds and for the non-sewer related costs pending, you know, who knows what happens with the bridge district. |
| 02:11:38.71 | Ava | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:11:38.97 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:11:45.65 | Ray Withy | or if they'll agree that this qualifies for what money they may end up sharing with us. Where would we take it out of? Because this is sort of one of the things we talked about earlier in the evening is there isn't a lot of money in our CIP budget this year compared to past years. |
| 02:11:55.08 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:12:03.86 | Adam Politzer | I know that you have... Mr. Vice Mayor, I'm sorry to interrupt you. |
| 02:12:06.81 | Ray Withy | No, so I'm curious where you would take it out of. |
| 02:12:09.88 | Adam Politzer | Well, I think that that discussion, we can come back to that discussion, but we're not under any impression from the Gongay Ferry and the Bridge District that that money wouldn't be eligible for exactly what we're talking about. Thank you. you know, as a reminder, You know, this is what we've been talking to the Ferry District about for the past four years. because we can't get their commuters to the ferry landing. So the money that we applied for in the application itself identifies the connectivity between the ferry landing and lot two and lot three. you know, there's no anticipation that that money won't come forward And the exact opposite is actually what's before us because we were talking about 3.2 million And then they've brought forward, they accelerated and brought forward an additional million so that we could start sooner. So I think if we cross the bridge that said that the money, for whatever reason, we weren't qualified for. you know, then we would have to go back through and look at our other sources of money in terms of other grants, working with TAM, working with accounting, working to find other money rather than looking at taking it from a project and jeopardizing a future project. |
| 02:13:33.28 | Ray Withy | Yeah, but I hear you, but I don't want to bet on the come for something. And also my guess would be once you start digging into the other stuff that needs to be done, it's going to cost more than you think. And depending on what, in terms of the ferry improvements, and in terms of we don't know what they're, unless you have a better idea than what we currently have of what the district is planning, whether it be some form of shelter or whatever. |
| 02:13:33.29 | Adam Politzer | You have. |
| 02:13:37.33 | Adam Politzer | So, |
| 02:14:02.30 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 02:14:04.18 | Ray Withy | Well, we don't, I don't know. So what I'm curious is if you had, you know, if we're going to have to eat this ourselves, where would it come from? Just, and if it goes the other way, great, then you have money to play with somewhere else. |
| 02:14:14.99 | Jonathon Goldman | And let me try and answer that. No. you know, in complement to what the city manager said. Charlie Francis isn't here, but we had this discussion with Charlie Francis in part as a condition of his signing off on the staff report. Um, The way our both, well, the way the capital improvement project budgets are currently structured, we're rolling a five-year process for both sewer and for general capital. And That role also includes cash. In other words, money that is not already appropriated or slated to be appropriated for a given project. Given the overall priorities of both the waste water enterprise and the I think, Um, the council and the city manager and even the ferry district. Um, This particular road segment is clearly going to be one of the highest priorities for improvements to address the people who come to our town on tour buses and want to get to the boat. People who come off the boat and want to get to Muir Woods people who Uh... Bye. ride their bicycles or walk in that part of town. Not that there aren't going to be other pieces. The work in Muni Lot 1 closer to the ferry landing is also a really significant piece. But I think in the grand scheme of things, and ultimately it's Council's decision where these priorities are expressed and expressed in the budget. Um, I think in the grand scheme of things, These are very high priority projects. So, making a contingent appropriation, recognizing that it's staff and the Council's responsibility both work very diligently with the very district and their granting agency, the Federal Transportation Administration, and put that $4.2 million to work as quickly as possible in making this kind of improvements. And at the same time, adjusting our own capital priorities for both the sewer enterprise and the general capital to make sure that dealing with our urgent needs first and realities as we look forward, you know, in a rolling five-year projection, that's our job. So I can't tell you Thank you. off the top of my head that you know, Project X that's currently slated for five years from now, is the one that's going to suffer. But we have the flexibility working with the cash that we have and the budgetary process to figure out how to balance those realities and still deliver when we have the opportunity. in the short term to deliver a high priority project to do so. |
| 02:17:33.56 | Ray Withy | Not to question priorities was more... Yeah, where is sort of, you know, obviously, there's a plus and minus to what you're saying. Yes, there are projects that are scheduled years out, but there aren't a huge number of those, and those have their own sets of priorities, as you know. So my question would be more if you... I think you have $100,000 in gate 5 to harbor to gate 5 bike and pet in this calendar here. So that leaves you like 160 or 170 short if you added all this together. So is there some aspect of this project that if we didn't have this other funding source from the ferry in the timing that would be appropriate for this, that you could, is there two pieces of this or multiple pieces of this? from the ferry in the timing that would be appropriate for this, that you could, is there two pieces of this or multiple pieces of this that could be deferred to when that funding comes or, you know, through that other source? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. of this particular aspect of it, of the non-sewer related pieces of it? Yes. And so that you could |
| 02:18:48.97 | Jonathon Goldman | THE END OF |
| 02:18:49.02 | Ray Withy | had that flexibility. |
| 02:18:49.99 | Jonathon Goldman | I think we probably could and at the same time we need to manage that issue with respect to the $83,000 TIFCA grant. Right. And if we can't deliver that project then I think we have an obligation to go back to TAM and say thanks but we can't do it. |
| 02:19:00.01 | Ray Withy | Right. |
| 02:19:12.53 | Ray Withy | And the need to accept the second round of bids, I gather the contractor has given you a timing that his thing is good through. even though you think the project may change if it goes, you know, we don't know what the Climate Commission's gonna require you to change on the non-sewer aspect of things. |
| 02:19:30.96 | Jonathon Goldman | The answer, I think I understand your question. These, other than the base bid, there are three alternates. we are not obligated, even if Council appropriates the funds, we're not obligated to construct the alternative. |
| 02:19:49.62 | Ray Withy | So their bid is just for the sewer piece. |
| 02:19:51.75 | Jonathon Goldman | Well, their bid includes the sewer piece plus three alternates. So they're covered for... |
| 02:19:56.07 | Ray Withy | so they're covered |
| 02:19:57.59 | Mary Wagner | We get to tell them what |
| 02:20:00.19 | Jonathon Goldman | Right, without penalty. |
| 02:20:02.68 | Ray Withy | Without having to change the scope of the project? Correct. And go back for a rediscussion, reopen the bid? Because that would be my concern if you're approving a bid and then you're going to have that you're comfortable, that In those alternates, it gives enough flexibility to go through this design review procedure without having to re-bit, reopen the bit. |
| 02:20:24.98 | Jonathon Goldman | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:20:25.03 | Ray Withy | more or less with your Thank you. |
| 02:20:26.65 | Jonathon Goldman | Yes. |
| 02:20:27.37 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:20:27.42 | Jonathon Goldman | And again, we have the contingency that if some unforeseen circumstance comes up and it isn't practicable, we don't have to authorize it. |
| 02:20:38.54 | Adam Politzer | Right. And during that same time, reaffirm the funding source. if the ferry money. disappears or the count or The county doesn't want to contribute if we find there's other opportunities, you know, then that would be the other reason why we would not go forward with those projects. |
| 02:21:04.31 | Ray Withy | Thank you, Jonathan. Any, at this time here, any public comment on this? All right, let's bring it back up. I'd like to make a comment on Humboldt. I've lived there for the last four years. I think it's almost necessary, and I'll give you my reasons why. A lot of people don't realize that not only the commuter, and that's a small number, that would go to the ferry. But more importantly, The amount of bicycles that come through three. or the ones that go down anchor and take a left on bay and then realize that the ferry is now behind them, turn around and that one way now is a one way. And I've often... debated or thought about, you know, what am I going to do, yell at them for coming up the one way? What do I want them to do, go out bay? take a left on Bridgeway, and now take a left on Anchor, which is more dangerous. And that's why I think, and if you want to see five parking spaces, parking, you can go down there now, because with the temporary restroom, there are only five spaces down there. I do like the idea of |
| 02:22:24.82 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:22:24.84 | Thomas Theodores | Correct. |
| 02:22:29.77 | Ray Withy | The parallel parking, I think it's a lot safer pulling out than that diagonal. That's a very dangerous thing because unless, especially for an older person who cannot turn their neck around, they can't see. And when they pull out, it's a very dangerous situation, especially when you have the buses on that side, that makes it a very, reasonably narrow a street. But just getting back to the bikes, |
| 02:22:53.05 | Unknown | But just |
| 02:22:56.82 | Ray Withy | You're talking on a weekend of hundreds of bikes, and I really mean it, going down the wrong way on Humboldt to get from lot three Because naturally that traffic is so backed up, or not that far, but when it backs up on Bridgeway, we'll say to the Teixe de Rome, all those bikes, they don't stay on Bridgeway, even though there's that bike lane. They cut over and go the backside because they know that that ferry terminal is in the back. So I think from a safety standpoint, I think, you know, at first I was, I didn't like the west side. I thought maybe it'd be best for the east side on Humboldt, but looking at that and the way that's configured and the amount of buses that we have now coming in, I'd rather not have the bicycles on that side, leave it for the pedestrians. and that would be on the east side, and let the west side be for those bicycles. The only other thing that I might would recommend is if we do do this project, I do recommend that Anka Street have a stop sign. coming down anchor because what you're going to have is you're going to have all these bicycles just flipping right in front. And you have the vehicles now coming down anchor. And that will be, and I know it's against the law for them to ride their bikes. across a crosswalk. but they're going to do it anyway. So that's my comment. Okay, any other comments? |
| 02:24:32.75 | Thomas Theodores | Well, |
| 02:24:35.86 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:24:35.87 | Thomas Theodores | I do have a good time. |
| 02:24:36.40 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:24:36.43 | Thomas Theodores | The only thing is this, I mean, I understand Herb's comment on the bikes on homeboats, but it seems like the bicycle issue should be dealt with on a more comprehensive basis, and it just seems like we're doing one block We're not thinking about all the traffic patterns all the way through. And I mean, we haven't had that presented, so it would seem to me to have, be more sensible to have |
| 02:24:58.40 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 02:24:58.42 | Thomas Theodores | whole idea of what we're going to do in that general area before we allocate any money. We may come up, do this, and then finally we want to change the flow of traffic. Thank you. |
| 02:25:08.29 | Ray Withy | Well, I think you're going to find out that probably I can only say for the rentals. You're looking at about 85% of the rentals don't really go much further than El Portal. And that's our idea, is to capture them. The others will continue down Bridgeway and look probably down at Gate 5 Road, and then they have a tendency when they find out that it's another 45 minutes from there to Timberhorn, that they'll come back. |
| 02:25:41.18 | Ray Withy | Mr. Mayor, may I comment? So I'm not sure, frankly, how the Class 1 multi-use bicycle path got bundled into an agenda item called the sewer |
| 02:25:41.58 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:25:52.10 | Ray Withy | rehabilitation project. That's my first comment. To me, I think that we're kind of getting swept away on the project. We need to step back and look at process. I agree with Council Member Theodora's statement regarding looking at this bicycle plan holistically. I walked with Todd Teachout the length of the proposed Greenway to kind of, you know, map that out and I think it's a separate project. And I also think, that when we're talking about looking at the downtown we need to look at, we need to lead with an analysis, a legal analysis on the ramifications of 1128. I think that needs to be first and foremost. And I also want to comment on the history of this, because before this, I mean, it was buried in under fiscal impact, this project I found, in the staff report. It certainly wasn't front and center. And so I scrambled to talk to people who had been attending these meetings for the multi-use path. And their concern at the time, and I know this because at one point I stepped outside and listened in on one of the meetings, was that we have a lot of residents who envision that as, you know, with strollers and a recreational path and they were told that the commuters would want to stay on the main street because they're just zipping through so fast as we know. And so I think that there needs to be a lot more public outreach and a more holistic view of this whole bicycle strategy. And I do believe very strongly it should be separated from the sewer rehab project. Why? It went there. It feels like we're putting the cart before the horse. We need to do the analysis on Ordinance 1128 to understand the repercussions. We don't want to walk into a lawsuit. And I think that we also need to really focus on including the Planning Commission earlier as well as the Historical Landmarks Board. And that would be my comment. |
| 02:28:15.32 | Unknown | Well, yeah, go ahead. |
| 02:28:18.10 | Ava | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:28:18.24 | Ray Withy | Jonathan, can you go back to the map and just, what's the route of the anchor sewer line? Does it go down Humboldt at all? |
| 02:28:40.31 | Jonathon Goldman | So I turn it on, light screen now. The Anchor Street Wastewater Lift Station is here in the corner of Muni Lot 1. It receives wastewater from a line that runs from a manhole here at the intersection of Bay and Humboldt and flows that way into the wet well of that facility. And then the Spinnaker line runs up bay. The Sausluta Yacht Harbor pump outs are along that line. And the facilities that will be constructed at Spinnaker under this project are. |
| 02:29:14.53 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:29:14.55 | Ray Withy | Uh, |
| 02:29:18.48 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 02:29:18.50 | Ray Withy | Sir, the project anticipates digging up Humboldt to replace that section of the sewer line. Correct. Yeah. |
| 02:29:18.53 | Jonathon Goldman | I'm not sure it. |
| 02:29:26.11 | Ava | Yeah. |
| 02:29:27.07 | Ray Withy | So that's how I think Jonathan is looking at the whole, the fact that you're disturbing the whole street and wanting to do something while you have the... |
| 02:29:29.92 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:29:30.04 | Ray Withy | Jonathan is looking at |
| 02:29:35.64 | Ray Withy | TODAY. If it's dug up, you might as well attempt to utilize the... |
| 02:29:38.04 | Ray Withy | opportunity. |
| 02:29:43.18 | Ray Withy | Well, you're going to have to put new curve and better and all that other stuff. |
| 02:29:45.50 | Ray Withy | Thank you. I can understand. I'm looking at it from the safety part. I understand stepping back on the comprehensive. It's okay. The only thing is we are really limited there to a very small area with a tremendous amount of traffic congestion. in that area. Go ahead. |
| 02:30:14.86 | Adam Politzer | I'm sorry to interrupt, but I just want to respond to Council Member Theodorus' comments about the bicycle plan. And, you know, obviously we're limited in time and our presentations and background information, and this is the first official meeting of the new council. But, you know, there have been lots of studies, and the Gate 6 Road to Ferry Landing is a $90,000 study that we got funding for that talks about the circulation. The Royston Hanamono plan went through in 2009, probably that's the date of the actual drawing, 2009, so it probably started well before that to get to that actual conceptual drawing that was presented as part of what our vision is for that downtown area. The pre-work that we've done with the ferry landing has also talked about that process, the $4.2 million will also look at a circulation plan for both pedestrian, vehicles, bikes, you know, that whole area. And in our pre-meetings with the consultant that we paid half the cost, $5,000 was the city's contribution to give us, you know, a kind of a plan moving forward. and to go out and do the RFP for the design consultants that will bid on that opportunity. But even in those meetings, challenging us to Why does it have to be one way? Why is the left hand turn to get to Lot 3. Thank you. You have to go all the way to Bay Street to get to Lot 3. because that's how it's always been. Uh, So I think that when we spend the $4.2 million on the land side improvements, it will also come with a circulation plan And to a lot of excitement, we got that grant for $125,000, $140,000 to study a part of Alexander Avenue South. And obviously, our objective there is from the south to Berry Landing. We don't have the money, but right now we've got the money to look at the most difficult part of that. So I just wanted to let the two new council members know that there have been a lot of studies, and I think that the work of the bicycle task force that was assigned to the $90,000, |
| 02:32:26.42 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:32:26.47 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:32:26.55 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:32:45.00 | Adam Politzer | Gate 6 Road to Ferry Landing, project looked at that and that's where some of these conversations that overlapped between the just the Humboldt Street discussion to the discussion from Gate 6 Road is where you got the older people walking, the strollers, the mixed use and the challenges of mixed use. I think that is still real but it's not a lack of study or information out there. |
| 02:33:13.63 | Unknown | Go ahead. |
| 02:33:14.42 | Ava | Go ahead. |
| 02:33:15.94 | Ray Withy | And I, in addition to lumping this controversial project in with the sewer rehab topic, I want to comment on a bicycle project that we were presented as part of the Greenway a couple years ago where I was told... by staff that I was voting just to appropriate funds and that the project being presented was, you know, just a sketch just to get the funds and apply for the grant and then later on, a year or a half later, I was told that, oh no, that council approved that plan. And so I'm very cautious about, this is the first time I'm seeing this. I don't recall, and correct me, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not recall. When was this presented? In February 2011, Jonathan? is the first two weeks old. Okay, thank you. So this is the first time that I'm seeing this and it wasn't in the staff report. And it came to light because I sent city staff questions, you know, when I found it, you know, on buried in the staff report. I'm just concerned about the process. I'm concerned about the transparency and I'm concerned about the analysis that hasn't been done yet. |
| 02:34:43.71 | Ray Withy | Okay. Let me back up a little then. You know, I... That's our transportation hub. No matter what you do with it. or anything else or what you try to stand in front of it or stop it. The buses are still going to increase. Right now we have 50 to 60 buses coming in on a given day during the summertime. That is not going to diminish. The amount of bikes still is on the increase, and that is our transportation hub. how they come in, how they turn around, And that isn't going to go away. I do agree that if you're going to widen that sidewalk on the west side, don't dig it up when you've got everything dug up there and not take advantage of utilizing the time to put in That sewer line, that sewer line goes right from that very corner |
| 02:35:39.57 | Ava | I don't know. |
| 02:35:40.61 | Ray Withy | on bay, right across directly, right along where that sidewalk would be, all the way to anchor. So that's a transportation hub. I think we've got to address it that way. The best way we can address it is to make sure that it's a safe passage for your people on bikes, your walking pedestrians. And another thing about the buses, we never used to have them. We always had those buses come in. They park an hour, two hours, and then take the people back. Now what's happening is they've piggybacked on what the bicycles advertise. They advertise there, take your ride over the bridge and take your ferry back. Well, now what some of these bus companies are doing is they're saying, We'll ride you up to wine country. We'll drive you into Sausalito. We will drop you off, and you take a ferry back. |
| 02:36:37.65 | Ava | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:36:37.99 | Ray Withy | They piggybacked on that idea, and it's very successful, and that's the direction that they've been going. So we just don't have buses just pulling in there and staying. We have them just pulling in there, just dropping these people off so they can go directly to the ferry. And that's a change. So I look at it as a safety feature. And that's your transportation hub. And I don't think, unless anybody has some great ideas, where else are you going to put all these? Where else is going to be your transportation hub? And it's already there. |
| 02:37:13.48 | Ray Withy | Can I ask Jonathan a question? or Todd, either one of you guys. In terms of the plan that was approved by Council or the Gate 6 to Ferry Landing plan that was, yeah, it was approved by Council. It's a study. It's not a full plan. With the path on the east side, would that have required use of MED and property to accomplish that? or was that just eliminating that sidewalk altogether and just turning it into the multi-use path on the other side? |
| 02:37:54.64 | Ray Withy | Either way. because how it ties in across the street, because that's where that other path is going to go is along the backside of the parking lot, the multi-use path, right, against the bushes of the park. So then you have them crossing on one side Oh, sorry, Todd. |
| 02:38:22.48 | Jonathon Goldman | The feasibility study within lot one was a multi-use path. From anchor northward, they attempted to create a facility for pedestrians and a separate facility for bikes. Thanks. |
| 02:38:41.55 | Jonathon Goldman | The pedestrians on one side. |
| 02:38:41.75 | Jonathon Goldman | And then similarly it would do that through lot three, and then it would join in on Bridgeway at |
| 02:38:49.66 | Ray Withy | on Johnson Street. Right. But my question is more the way that Obviously, it's all conceptual, so it can all change, but the way the path came from the ferry was at the back of the park. So you'd have to cross diagonally to get to the other half of that. multi-use path in the parking lot, in lot one, the way it was conceptualized before, unless there's been a change to |
| 02:39:13.80 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 02:39:13.81 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:39:13.83 | Jonathon Goldman | So it was from the feasibility study, it was on the east side of the road. |
| 02:39:14.81 | Ray Withy | Yeah. |
| 02:39:20.75 | Jonathon Goldman | Right, so it was on the east side of parking lot one as well. |
| 02:39:21.14 | Ray Withy | So now, Right. So would that have to change if you have this on this side? |
| 02:39:25.47 | Jonathon Goldman | So there was |
| 02:39:32.90 | Adam Politzer | once you get into the parking lot, you're not running against traffic. The point here is that the people would be walking their bikes on the, if pedestrians are present, they're required to walk their bikes. It just gives them the ability to ride them so that they're not breaking the law and writing against traffic on a one-way street. Once they enter the parking lot, then they become a vehicle. |
| 02:39:59.12 | Jonathon Goldman | Just to add to that, Mr. Vice Mayor, it's a good question. And the analysis that has been done since that, plan was contemplated, that plan was developed, is focused more on how people are actually using and are likely to use whatever facilities get constructed. And to some extent, it's for us even to have this conversation because we anticipate a significant design development process as well as additional public participation from the consultant that we select to do the shoreside improvements work for the ferry landing. But the point the city manager made, and it was |
| 02:40:30.68 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 02:40:43.40 | Unknown | Fairland. |
| 02:40:50.07 | Jonathon Goldman | obvious to me in watching some of the operations at the ferry landing last summer when my oldest son was commuting to San Francisco for work at Gensler Architects, the people who are commuting on bicycles in the morning before there are significant numbers of pedestrians are really the beneficiaries of this project. And I realize that it's a significant amount of money. Thank you. But what we're giving them is a safe place to ride against traffic. As soon as they get into lot one, they're fine. They can ride with traffic because there isn't any, for one thing. In addition, they're not violating the one-way prohibition or something like that. At the end of the day, when even those same commuters, those that are comfortable getting on a bicycle and riding with traffic, can do so entirely within the law. And if they're more comfortable going on Bridgeway, which frankly I would given the congestion at that point, they can do that. They don't need an off-field. street facility either in lot one or on Humboldt or in lot three at that point in the day. Frankly, anybody who's on a bicycle and isn't comfortable riding with traffic with that level of congestion belongs on foot and they should be walking their bicycles. And one of the points that I made in the presentation and I think we'll see in the way these projects ultimately get delivered is that we need to encourage people to make those conscious decisions and get off their bicycles if it isn't safe in a situation where they might interact with pedestrians. So I think we have the opportunity to construct facilities that some of which are bicycle facilities. And the TIFCA money has to be for a bicycle facility. We can't build a sidewalk with it. We can't build a vehicular route with it. But the other funds that we have available can be used to construct pedestrian facilities, improve motor vehicle circulation, landscaping, all kinds of other things that I think the objective in the long run is to make the whole system, the whole hub as the mayor referred to it, operate safely and more efficiently and to have it comply with accessibility regulations, and have it be significantly more visually appealing than what's there today. |
| 02:43:13.96 | Ray Withy | But the west side here is a multi-use path. It's not just a class one. It has a ped section and that's the class one bike lane. Is that correct? |
| 02:43:26.18 | Jonathon Goldman | The west side is intended as a shared facility. It is being constructed in part with bicycle facility dollars but the Sherrows, for example, are intended to convey the fact that it is not exclusively for bicycles, Um, But again, in operational terms, in the morning when There's virtually nobody else there. A bicyclist riding in from Lot 3 We'll have the site distance and a continuous path that's logical to them and keeps them out of a regulatory violation running the wrong way on Humboldt. |
| 02:44:06.31 | Thomas Theodores | Thank you. |
| 02:44:08.58 | Jonathon Goldman | All right. |
| 02:44:11.03 | Thomas Theodores | I'd like to ask just a clarifying question. Just to make sure I'm very clear, you can imagine it's getting arms around these funding mechanisms, the contingencies, which I know exactly why you're trying to do this, so that you can move things along. Could I just make sure I'm very clear? If we adopt the resolutions that you are proposing that we adopt tonight, is it clear that in no way are we approving a multi-use bike facility to actually be constructed. And in no way are we subverting our standard |
| 02:44:51.90 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 02:44:55.41 | Thomas Theodores | planning processes to examine them. |
| 02:44:58.30 | Jonathon Goldman | It's certainly clear to me. |
| 02:44:59.77 | Thomas Theodores | Okay, and that this, therefore, is almost a contingency such that if we decide to get proposals to move ahead with that through our regulatory bodies, we will have the facility to do so. Correct. Is that correct? |
| 02:45:15.97 | Unknown | Correct. Yes. |
| 02:45:17.62 | Thomas Theodores | Thank you. |
| 02:45:18.41 | Unknown | Okay. Thank you. |
| 02:45:20.03 | Thomas Theodores | Yes. |
| 02:45:20.44 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:45:23.92 | Ray Withy | And just a comment that I think what's unique about this is Ordinance 1128, which I have said from the beginning we should start this process with a legal analysis on that topic because it impacts everything we're talking about. And I have a question, if I may, Mr. Mayor, for Mary. I have to ask this because of the Brown Act. but we have an agenda item titled Sewer Rehabilitation Project, and we've spent the better part of an hour discussing a Class 1 multiuse bicycle path. And so I just want to confirm that we have not, you know, stepped outside the lines there. You have not. |
| 02:46:10.00 | Ray Withy | I can under, I, I, I, I, all right, go ahead, Tom. |
| 02:46:14.76 | Thomas Theodores | I do have a question. I mean, I think Ray helped put it in some perspective because I'm concerned about what we commit to here. But I do see on the recommendations are that we authorize the city manager to execute two construction contracts. So how does that play into this that we're only going forward and then we have some options of we're not really committing to this project? |
| 02:46:36.39 | Jonathon Goldman | Well, I am. I think I'm on. Maybe this battery's dead, too. Uh, You have the PowerPoint next steps list that I think pretty clearly indicates that those subsequent approvals, both from the Council and either the Planning Commission or the Planning Department, are a requirement for those |
| 02:47:03.12 | Unknown | I'm going to go. |
| 02:47:04.64 | Jonathon Goldman | of the project to be constructed. Obviously, you have the latitude not to give the city manager the authority to do that. Um, but. because as Council Member Withey pointed out, um, THE PLANS FOR the project. include enough information to allow a contractor to have given us a price to construct it. Um, And The appropriations, should you approve them, give us the financial authority to construct them, to authorize that contractor to do the work, it's easier for us. But, you know, it's ultimately up to council what you give us the city manager the authority to do. |
| 02:48:00.67 | Ray Withy | Well, I'll just make one more comment on that. I look at this as on the side where the buses would be. And that's why I like the idea that the pedestrians, most of the pedestrians will be ON THAT BUS SIDE. because when you have 40 people getting out of a minimum Because don't forget that area on Humboldt where you see those buses, that's for coach parking. That is not for shuttle. Shuttles are smaller vehicles. That is just set up for the large coaches which can have about 55 people. So what we're doing is you have to make it safe that when they get off that bus that they stay on that east side. sidewalk. The other thing is And I understand what you mean by the sword, boys. To me, it sounds awful foolish. Here we would make a bicycle and pedestrian pathway there, dig it up, put it in place, and then all of a sudden have to go and dig it all up again to put in a sewer. line. I mean, it's... I think it's very costly and not really a good way to do it. Any good you like to make? |
| 02:49:23.29 | Ray Withy | Yeah, I'll make a motion and maybe this hopefully gets somewhere there. You may not agree with it, but I'll make a motion anyway. |
| 02:49:26.90 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:49:29.08 | Ray Withy | So let's tackle, he's got two resolutions. I'll tackle the first one. And I'll read them into the record. So forgive me for being verbose so that we can all understand what's happening here. So the first is to find the, priority 1b sewer rehabilitate Excuse me. Rehabilitation project exempt from the application of CEQA. Number two, finding the project 1B exempt from the social zoning ordinance design review procedure. And what I would do is make number three, so I added a 1B into number two. And three, making the recommended budget appropriations and contingently awarding a contract to Bay Pacific Pipelines for construction of Project 1B. |
| 02:50:05.88 | Unknown | Mmm. |
| 02:50:21.45 | Ray Withy | and authorized the city manager to execute a construction contract on behalf of the city. Well, so I would, I don't know what the award from the state, that's just for the funding, that's the loan, right, Jonathan? Jonathan? The state water resource, that's the state loan fund. Comes out of the Water Resources Control Board. Right, $950,000 for construction. |
| 02:50:44.47 | Jonathon Goldman | Right. |
| 02:50:47.78 | Ray Withy | and then authorize the city manager to execute construction contract on behalf of the city once the city receives approval of the award for Project 1B from the State Water Resources Board Division of Financial Assistance. Number two, second, I wouldn't change, |
| 02:51:15.88 | Ray Withy | I would leave those two the same because there are money in for Project 1B is within the budget for the sewer fund, and I think you'll probably be able to find $30,000 in the capital fund for the additional construction management inspection services. I don't have a problem with that. And how I would handle the additional expenses if staff wishes to return with... Once you either have funding from somewhere for the bike stuff, or if after it's gone through the planning, process then it's going to be same time, it won't really affect the timeline I don't think for you going out for this because it's You've got your alternate scenarios already in your bid. So I don't think it'll, and correct me if I'm wrong, if it's going to slow you down to have a second bite at the apple on this one. |
| 02:52:18.09 | Adam Politzer | Look. Mr. Vice Mayor, if I could just one thing you said there, It will come to the council before it goes to the planning because it's our property. |
| 02:52:29.23 | Ray Withy | I know that, but I want you to also come back with here's where the money's coming from. |
| 02:52:32.57 | Adam Politzer | No, fine. I thought to make sure that that didn't get skipped. Thank you. |
| 02:52:35.00 | Ray Withy | Right. |
| 02:52:36.08 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:52:36.18 | Ray Withy | Okay, so you made your motion. |
| 02:52:38.33 | Ray Withy | you |
| 02:52:38.51 | Ray Withy | Mr. Mayor, I have a clarification on that motion. So actually it's a question for Jonathan. For that motion that was just made, does that state that we would exempt the Class 1 multi-use bicycle path from CEQA and the SOSTO zoning ordinance design review procedure? |
| 02:52:39.51 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:52:39.61 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 02:52:39.75 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:53:01.97 | Jonathon Goldman | I think I'm qualified to say no. It does not state that. |
| 02:53:04.89 | Ray Withy | It's not a stick. All right, so even though it refers to Priority 1B and the |
| 02:53:07.50 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:53:07.54 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 02:53:07.59 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:53:10.81 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:53:10.83 | Ray Withy | Yeah, but that's not part of 1B. That's the sewer project. |
| 02:53:13.46 | Ray Withy | Okay, I'm just checking, thank you. |
| 02:53:15.57 | Thomas Theodores | I have another question. On the first one, it says authorized to execute a construction contract. On the second one relating to HUNC 157, |
| 02:53:16.68 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:53:16.80 | Ava | THE FAMILY. |
| 02:53:16.89 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:53:16.92 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 02:53:25.68 | Thomas Theodores | 157,000 says contingently Excuse me. I just like to be clear that the study, the The power we're giving the city manager is going to be contingent upon coming for further approval to the city council. I know we've talked about that. I don't hear that or I don't see that in the resolution. |
| 02:53:44.29 | Ray Withy | Well, |
| 02:53:47.58 | Thomas Theodores | All right, so I'm sorry to muck it up, although I need to hear that somewhere because that's my understanding of the concept. |
| 02:53:50.22 | Adam Politzer | Muck it up. |
| 02:53:51.13 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:53:51.14 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 02:53:51.18 | Unknown | I'm not sure. |
| 02:53:51.25 | Adam Politzer | I just- |
| 02:53:51.83 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:53:55.38 | Thomas Theodores | And I'm not seeing the resolution, and I can't vote for it until I'm clear that it's in the resolution. you |
| 02:53:59.82 | Jonathon Goldman | And I'm happy to jump in there. First of all, again, I apologize for the lack of clarity. It's not your fault. |
| 02:53:59.95 | Thomas Theodores | So, |
| 02:54:10.60 | Jonathon Goldman | The whole situation is fairly complex, and I think given the schedules over the last few weeks, not enough time got put into laying this out and thinking it through. The contingency applies. If I understand the Vice Mayor's motion, the Vice Mayor is proposing that the city manager be authorized to award a contract for the construction of the sewer project, which is $950,000. Contingent upon notification from the state revolving fund, that award has been approved. In addition, the Vice Mayor is proposing that the City Manager be authorized to execute that professional services agreement with the same contingency. In other words, the state revolving fund approves awards. The come back to council part is for the non sewer projects, you know, the bicycle facility and the non sewer, non bicycle facilities kind of depicted here, the widening of the sidewalks, et cetera, et cetera, which as the city manager mentioned, need to come back to council before we can even take them to the planning commission because the council is the owner of the property. So there are two contingencies in play, and what I understand is kind of on the table is a contingency that would not come back to council. It's in the hands of the state of California. |
| 02:55:32.07 | Ava | that. |
| 02:55:42.35 | Ray Withy | Yeah, no, so yes, the answer is clear. Your interpretation is correct. And the reasoning is there's funding to fund both of those, and also you're not going to execute your construction management contract if you don't have a project. So and there's no bid out for that as far as I know. There's no contract. It has been, you don't have to execute that by February 13th or something like that like the other one, right? So they want to lock up these yo-yos under this price for a period of time and then go work it out with the construction management people, but probably you're not going to obligate to start paying them until you have a project over on the other side. So is that fair to say? |
| 02:56:01.98 | Ava | You know. |
| 02:56:23.78 | Ray Withy | And Mr. Mayor, I have a Brown Act question again for Mary. Mary, the fact that these plans were not noticed or included in the staff report, we're okay with that too? Yes. Okay. I'm sorry, I'm just clarifying. Let me, |
| 02:56:36.74 | Mary Wagner | I mean, we frequently put up a brief. I'm sorry, I'm just clarifying. But let me then respond a little further because this is the second time this has come up. The Brown Act is intended to give people, you know, an idea of what's on the agenda and then they can look into it further. It's a brief description of the item in front of you. It doesn't have to be an exhaustive list of everything that that item includes. People are directed to the staff report and to the supporting documents to determine what |
| 02:56:41.06 | Ray Withy | as a society. this is kind of. |
| 02:56:59.75 | Mary Wagner | the rest of the item covers. So the fact that a plan is put up on a board or you have a PowerPoint that wasn't in your packet is not a Brown Act violation. |
| 02:57:12.78 | Ava | this. |
| 02:57:13.10 | Ray Withy | Does that answer? |
| 02:57:13.14 | Mary Wagner | Does that? |
| 02:57:14.00 | Ray Withy | The diagram is actually in the staff report itself. |
| 02:57:14.17 | Mary Wagner | I don't know. |
| 02:57:14.30 | Ray Withy | Is that a question, Council Member Parker? Go. No, it wasn't. |
| 02:57:19.50 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:57:19.53 | Ray Withy | you |
| 02:57:19.58 | Ray Withy | There's a humble picture in here somewhere. |
| 02:57:24.22 | Mary Wagner | And again, for clarity, you're not approving that plan tonight. |
| 02:57:24.80 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 02:57:31.18 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:57:31.34 | Ava | Thank you. I- |
| 02:57:32.29 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:57:32.42 | Mary Wagner | Bye. |
| 02:57:32.51 | Ray Withy | Thank you. I understand that technically this is what we're being told and yet the fact is that we are making certain judgment calls regarding where the bicycle path will be located, where it's going to be a commuter path. Well, I'm sorry, I'm just referring to the email that I received. |
| 02:57:50.84 | Mary Wagner | I don't think we're implying any judgment call from the council by that plan being up on the board. And I'm looking at your public works director to see if he's shaking his head one way or the other. But the question that you asked for me was the Brown Act question. And I don't believe that there's been a Brown Act violation. because of the discussion of the bicycle improvements as part of the sewer project. |
| 02:58:19.73 | Ray Withy | Thanks, Mary. I just don't want to see the sewer project held up because it was linked with something that became controversial. Thank you. |
| 02:58:25.57 | Mary Wagner | I appreciate that. |
| 02:58:26.90 | Thomas Theodores | Mr. Mayor, I will second the Vice Mayor's motion. Thank you. |
| 02:58:30.46 | Ray Withy | you |
| 02:58:30.63 | Thomas Theodores | Thank you. |
| 02:58:30.75 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:58:30.78 | Thomas Theodores | Thank you. |
| 02:58:31.08 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:58:31.10 | Thomas Theodores | Thank you. |
| 02:58:31.15 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Do we need a roll or can we call for all in favor? Aye. Aye. Thank you. |
| 02:58:36.42 | Ray Withy | I... |
| 02:58:37.50 | Ray Withy | Opposed? |
| 02:58:38.54 | Ray Withy | No. |
| 02:58:39.88 | Ray Withy | Okay. |
| 02:58:46.94 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:58:46.96 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:58:47.00 | Ray Withy | Laura, talk about the bathroom. |
| 02:58:48.83 | Ray Withy | Okay, Lawrence. |
| 02:58:49.59 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 02:58:49.61 | Ray Withy | Speaking of which, can we have a quick two-minute break? Or I'll just jot out the room and come back. It doesn't matter. |
| 02:58:55.35 | Ray Withy | John out the room and come back, it doesn't matter. |
| 02:58:58.44 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:58:58.91 | Ray Withy | Two minutes? Thank you. |
| 02:58:58.94 | Ray Withy | Two minutes, thank you. Yeah, pause for the cause. |
| 02:59:24.75 | Ray Withy | I guess he really did need the, never mind. |
| 02:59:28.52 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:59:28.54 | Ray Withy | I'm surprised for the card. |
| 02:59:29.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:59:41.81 | Ray Withy | Okay, we're going to have now the status update. I like that, update on the downtown restroom project. Lawrence? |
| 02:59:51.26 | Lawrence | Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Vice Mayor and other members of the Council. This is a brief update on the downtown restroom project. You have probably seen that there's been a construction job site fence around |
| 02:59:52.49 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 03:00:03.46 | Lawrence | lot three for a while, and so I wanted to give everyone an update on where we are. Lot two. Thank you. I get mixed up all around lot two. So I'd like to give you a brief update on where we were, where we are, and where we're going with this project. |
| 03:00:20.99 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 03:00:29.97 | Lawrence | This is a photograph of our old restroom. Nice roof dilapidated. We have the historical coverage of this. So, old restrooms, bad. And there were a number of reasons why those were no longer a good restroom for our users. They were not accessible. They were difficult to maintain. and they were undersized for the amount of use that is required in that area and All right. the mayor can attest to how many people use our temporary restrooms that we've established on there. |
| 03:01:08.42 | Lawrence | So for the new restrooms, new restrooms are good. All right. What we will gain through the new restroom is further compliance with the Libra versus Salido settlement, providing for accessibility in Sausalito. We'll be enhancing the downtown experience for our guests, our customers, tourists, residents with convenience and beautification. And we will be replacing tilted and unsightly sidewalk sections that both meet accessibility requirements as well as making our downtown look nice. So, What's happened so far? In 2009, the City Council approved replacement of the downtown public restrooms. In January 2012, the city retained architectural services of Warner Associates architects for the design of those restrooms. June 2012, bids were received for construction, and John Pope Construction Incorporated was selected as the low bidder. On July 30th, a notice to proceed was issued to John Pope for instruction. And January 30th is the anticipated completion date at the time that we awarded construction. So where are we today? There will be three things that I'll bring up today, budget, schedule, and the progression The lowest responsive bid at the time of the opening was John Pope Construction for an amount of $723,000. This was for the construction of the actual restroom, site work which includes new sidewalks and also for a bus stop area and enclosure. The City Council approved in July in appropriation to make the total construction budget of $795,000 available for the execution of this project. To date on this project, we've received three change orders. The total amount of those change orders issued by the contractor are $3,208. We have anticipated owner directed change orders related to the project that are going to be less than $20,000. Those two are the additional sidewalk work that we're doing in front of Bank of America to bring the rest of that sidewalk into compliance. And also the possible removal and replacement of a storm drain that leads from our job site out to Anchor Street, which is now not currently working very well. There are some anticipated design professional additional services in the amount of less than $12,000, which we're currently negotiating and which are under review. So if we take the anticipated $12,000 of additional services, the $20,000 of owner-directed change orders and the current change orders from the general contractor, we would be looking at approximately a 5% increase over the original budgeted cost or approximately $37,000 under the budget of $795,000 for construction. in terms of our schedule, The contractual schedule was for the notice to proceed to be issued and the contractor would be given 180 days from that date. to reach substantial completion and then 30 days until final completion. Generally, substantial completion means that the building or facility is available for its intended use and that month or that 30 days between substantial and final completion is for punch list work, and for other closeout matters. The construction notice to proceed date was issued on July 30, 2012. which put the original anticipated substantial completion date of January 30, 2012, and made the original anticipated final completion date of February 28, 2013. on the schedule that was just issued by the contractor yesterday or actually today. He's currently calling for a final job completion, including punch list, of February 25, 2013. So more or less we still are on schedule for this project. Progression of work. Some of the things that we've seen in the previous slides, such as the low amount of change orders, the adherence to the schedule can be attributed to a number of different things. One of them is that on this project we've had a total number of official requests for information submitted by the contractor of 11. So the plans were designed in such a way that contractor was able to essentially construct the building as drawn. has not been delayed by having to get responses or revisions to those drawings, which is which is an amazing number. I... also suspect that Bill Werner has been drinking a lot of coffee in the morning and stopping off at the job site and talking to the contractor. But the contractor and he have been working very well together, which is reflected in We've had 17 meetings to date and we've been having weekly meetings on that project. We knew that this was a high impact and high visibility project so we made weekly meetings of turned out to be good because they've kept the project under budget and on time. That's been very good, and that's also part of the reason why there is an additional request for services from the design professional, because his original contract was for meetings every two weeks, and staff made a decision to make those meetings weekly to make sure that nothing got done. |
| 03:06:39.72 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:06:39.75 | Lawrence | Thank you. |
| 03:06:39.80 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:06:42.26 | Lawrence | And also we've been having special inspections for the welding of the structure, for concrete compaction and soils compaction. And one thing that has been nice to see is that all those tests have resulted on positive results on the first year. go around, so we've not had to do any retesting, revisions. We haven't had to pull up any concrete. We haven't had to pull apart any of that structure in order to retest or replace. There are some photographs here, just giving a little timeline here. September 2012 is when we were starting to do some of the form work for the foundation there. Thank you. October 2012, you can see that the slab is in place and some of the rough plumbing is there. A lot of work around the job site for tying into existing sewer lines. bringing in water lines, et cetera. This is the structure you can see on the left. That's actually the structure of the restroom. It's a welded steel structure that will be very durable. and will probably be one of the safer spots in Sausalito in case of an earthquake. |
| 03:07:49.48 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 03:07:51.74 | Lawrence | Maybe. On the left, that's the structure. It's the same style structure that will match the – well, you'll see some of the steel exposed for the bus station. You won't see hardly any of the steel exposed for the restroom, but that will be enclosed in glass, and there will be some nice roofing materials that will be placed on that. Again, here we have in November, we're starting to put up the framing. You can see on the sidewalk to the right, that's a portion of the sidewalk that leads from Bridgeway down to the ATM at the Bank of America. We are replacing the sidewalk to the right of that. That goes all the way to the corner of Anchor. That's actually underway as of this morning. and Also, part of where we could have maybe finished up a little bit earlier on this project was that the framing was coming around in November. So that had a slight impact upon the installation of the framing and some of the Drywall in the building. Here we are in December. You can see that we're starting to put some of the board up on the exterior. Framing is in. All the rough plumbing has been installed. We are right now, as of today and in the last week or so, installing roof panels over there Once we get the roof panels in, we'll start tiling. And we should be actually starting up tile work starting up this next week and that is partly contingent upon the weather. If it gets too cold, we can't actually set tile. But it will be a brick veneer similar to that of the police and fire stations. There will be some glass block on the upper portion of that building And there will be solar operated exhaust fans on the top of those roofs. It's going to be a nice little structure when it's all said and done. |
| 03:09:32.43 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:09:32.47 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 03:09:32.57 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:09:35.75 | Lawrence | And so that concludes the official report. This is what they'll look like in about another month and a half. We're all looking forward to it. It's been a very successful project. The contractor, architect, and city relationship has been outstanding, and I think that's reflected in the number of RFIs and the low amounts of change orders. So if you have any questions, I'm available to answer. |
| 03:10:00.27 | Ray Withy | Mr. Mayor, thank you. So Lauren, thank you very much. It's very exciting to see this all come together, and they just look beautiful. It's very, every time I drive by there, I just love checking it out. So the picture here showed the bricks a darker red than the police and the fire building. And I know that that was one of the questions that residents had at the time, that it would be kind of a darker brick, kind of to mirror the old city hall across the street historically. |
| 03:10:38.89 | Lawrence | It's interesting you point out the building, the old city hall, because when we talked We were joking about they're putting the waterproofing on the exterior and it's this pink color right now. And so the joke was that we were going to start getting calls from people saying, why are you painting this ridiculous pink building? And we started talking about the brick and I joked, oh, you know, we don't have enough red in town. And Bill said, well, you know, this one is supposed to match that building across the street. I don't have the sample. I couldn't answer definitively if it is a darker color just right now. I can. I can find that out for you. But I believe that the intent is that it's supposed to match the old city hall, which is a much deeper, richer red. And the bricks are on site, so if you'd like to come by and take a look at one of them, |
| 03:11:33.69 | Ava | . |
| 03:11:34.18 | Lawrence | Thank you. |
| 03:11:34.34 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 03:11:34.37 | Lawrence | Thank you. |
| 03:11:37.96 | Unknown | Thank you. Looks like a bunker. |
| 03:11:43.04 | Ray Withy | Okay, any other questions? You flushed now? Okay. Thank you. |
| 03:11:48.78 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 03:11:48.90 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:11:48.92 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 03:11:49.88 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:11:49.90 | Ray Withy | Okay. |
| 03:11:50.30 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:11:50.33 | Ray Withy | . |
| 03:11:50.52 | Unknown | Hard work, Lauren. |
| 03:11:50.59 | Ray Withy | hard work, Lauren, and keeping it on budget and on time. That's why we love you. Thank God you came here full time. |
| 03:11:51.58 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 03:11:51.72 | Unknown | and keeping it on budget and on time. and I'm going to be here. |
| 03:11:56.14 | Lawrence | Thank you. |
| 03:12:01.03 | Lawrence | Thank you. It's not always going to be that way. |
| 03:12:05.45 | Ray Withy | Okay. |
| 03:12:06.97 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 03:12:07.02 | Ray Withy | loren hi we love you too it's just you you don't have anything being built right this minute if you get something built come back again but we'll let you be the first one in |
| 03:12:07.61 | Lawrence | Thank you. |
| 03:12:07.72 | Ray Withy | We love you. Thank you. |
| 03:12:09.05 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 03:12:09.07 | Ray Withy | It's just... Yeah. |
| 03:12:11.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:12:11.98 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 03:12:16.96 | Ray Withy | in there when it opens. Thank you. |
| 03:12:20.03 | Ava | . |
| 03:12:20.29 | Ray Withy | Yeah, you can. |
| 03:12:20.34 | Ava | You can. |
| 03:12:21.03 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Thank you. You can cut the ribbon. |
| 03:12:35.49 | Adam Politzer | Thank you, Mr. Mayor and council members. |
| 03:12:40.72 | Adam Politzer | A handful of items here to cover some of this informational, and I'll start with those. The League of California Cities is hosting the new mayor and council member academy. starting tomorrow through Friday and councilmember With thee and Theodorus will be joining me. as we go, and I am pleased that everyone behind the dais has attended the academy. and the other three have attended the Academy. You can wish them well and trade stories when when they return. Right. |
| 03:13:17.17 | Adam Politzer | Yeah. |
| 03:13:18.12 | Ray Withy | you people are crazy, it's like Amen. Action. Thank you. |
| 03:13:27.84 | Ray Withy | Yes, CUNY. |
| 03:13:30.39 | Adam Politzer | The other exciting news that starts tomorrow is the Southern Marine Management Academy that I've been talking about for a couple years starts tomorrow morning. And this academy is for staff at all levels of the organization and it will have 21 candidates in our first class. And there will be seven from the city of Mill Valley, seven from the city of Sausalito, three from Tiburon, two from Marin City, and one from Southern Marin Fire. So we're very excited about it. Belvedere was in transition with a new city manager that starts later or early next month. So they weren't ready to send anyone, but in future years they'll come forward. It's an eight session academy, spread over eight months. So basically once a month you'll have these folks attend and there are various sessions on all levels of municipal government that these folks will go on through. We have planners, battalion chiefs, maintenance workers, financial people, the city clerk from the city of Mill Valley is in it. Suzie Nichols will be coordinating it, but she'll also be a student because a participant because this is the first one. So for her to go through it and then continue to run the program, she'll have firsthand knowledge. Special thanks to Debbie Pegliero and Mary Wagner and Charlie Francis and Jennifer Tata all worked with me to coordinate and design the program, and I think that you'll hear fellow towns and cities that they're very excited about this. The county of Marin has a management academy. The Dominican College runs their program for a low cost somewhere between $10,000 and $20,000 twice a year and they pay that amount twice a year. We're doing this for under $5,000. and to a cost of roughly $250 per student. So an eight month training for $250 a student is an outstanding deal and we're excited about the program. So we'll have a graduation ceremony at the end of this in August, an opportunity if you'd like to come to the August graduation and wish our seven candidates congratulations. You'll be invited to that day and that party. We have our council team building session confirmed for the 2nd of February, which is a Saturday. We'll give the location soon as we're working out those details on the program. It will begin at 9 a.m. And right now, scheduled to go to 2. But based on how effective and efficient we are, we may be able to get out of there sooner. That's the anticipation, but we'd rather reserve that time and use it, then find out that we needed it, and folks make other 9 a.m. The last item on my report of significance here and then obviously open it up for questions for you, is there was a lot of community, concern about the article in the December news IJ on Fort Baker and the historic boat shop and marina and what activity was going on there because there was a request as they call it and I hadn't heard of this before but request for expressions of interest and they held tours last week and the public works director, the city attorney, myself and the mayor we went on the tour. and received a lot of information, all this information is on their website. But basically looking for folks that are interested in rehabbing those buildings. They're out of code. They are not accessible. They are not seismically safe. They have health violations in the restaurant and kitchen that are there. And we're really just talking about the three buildings and the marina that are at the north end of the cove there. I think many of you have been to the Um... the boat shop, which is also the restaurant and bar, and have a good idea of the conditions of those facilities. But it looks like they are being forced to bring those facilities up to code, and so they are looking for interested parties to bring proposals forward. Our experience was all nonprofits there. I don't know if any of the nonprofits have any money, but they said at a minimum it would be over a million dollars to make these improvements. There was no discussion of changing the structures, the historic structures, and when some questions were asked about expansion, they were not very... They weren't very encouraging. They said that it would be pretty much impossible to do any expansion. but very certain that the historic structures were to be preserved. And in all of their material, it goes through that. This process is open through February. I believe February 15th is when the response deadline comes forward. I've asked our Public Works Director and our planner, Heidi Burns, Heidi, Scoble to invite the National Park Service to a future meeting hopefully this month but to kind of give us an overview of all the activities that are going on the Park Service land. and their coordinated efforts also with Golden Gate Bridge in terms of some of the road improvements that have happened. So we'll keep our eye on this. They asked if we would be participating Um, uh, entity in submitting a proposal. And I said well we're always interested so maybe the parks and recreation department would be interested in meeting with you folks. If you have the money, we would be happy to operate your facilities. But I think everyone there that was attending was looking for the same deal. So we'll see what proposals come forward in February. We'll continue to talk to our friends at the Park Service and invite them here to give a proposal of what's going on. at a much bigger level of discussion versus the tour that we explored. That's it. They define the uses in here as, again, recreational and marine uses. The marina, which has 60 slips, they'd like to maintain the 60 slips but turn it into more of a short-term visitor marina. The current folks that use it, as we understood understood from the meeting are officers and they are given the approval to use those slips and it's in the hierarchy. If you're at the top of the food chain, you get first priority. And it goes all the way down to where the public, if there are remaining slips, then they're available to the public. And I believe they charge market rate for the use of those slips, but to be able to house your boat there, it goes in hierarchy of command. But they would like to continue to have the event space, which is the restaurant and bar, continue to serve its purpose. It's pretty clear from the folks from Travis Air Force that are the ones that operate the restaurant that they'd like to continue. So they were looking for a partner in this project. Obviously, it's going to need an elevator because you've got to be able to get to the second floor. so it didn't sound like the Air Force was willing to put up the money to rehab the building. but they would be willing to be the continue to operate the building and be tenants. So that's what we know at this point. If there's any other questions related to city business, happy to answer those. Otherwise, we will keep you notified as information comes forward. |
| 03:22:46.57 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Any public comment? Hi, Vicki. Okay, all right. All right, next item, future agenda items. Yes. Why am I looking to my right? Go ahead. |
| 03:23:03.43 | Ray Withy | The bicycle pedestrian committee is something that residents are very interested in getting going. |
| 03:23:10.87 | Ray Withy | Yeah, and I agree. I think as I mentioned before, this is a citywide, so it goes from one end to the other end. I really would like to see it. blended with two people from the south end. seven people on the committee, maybe two from the south end of town, one kind of representing pedestrian, one representing bicycle, One in the middle of town. Same thing. and the north end of town. And the seventh one. Seventh vote or person would be the Hack and Rec Department. |
| 03:23:50.44 | Ray Withy | And we talked about Well, anyway, moving forward. That'd be great. |
| 03:23:57.44 | Ray Withy | for it. That'd be great. I mean, it's for the length of the city. not just one area of town. |
| 03:24:04.51 | Ray Withy | And another topic, I don't know if this is a future agenda item, but to have an, to get the agenda just three business days before the Tuesday session is very difficult. So if we could perhaps explore that either at the team building or as a future agenda item. I know typically the agenda setting committee meets this week, the week of the council session. So it would just be helpful to get that agenda earlier to prepare. |
| 03:24:16.14 | Ariana Agnew | If. |
| 03:24:33.07 | Ray Withy | Yeah, I attempt to work with Debbie on that program, but we'll see what we can do. I mean, I'm lucky to, you know, thank goodness she's there because I'm lucky to get down there to go over these things and even by Thursday. So we'll look into that. All right. Thank you. Public comment? Just to put on the. |
| 03:25:01.03 | Ray Withy | Just to put on the record, so the ones I mentioned earlier, the liveaboard requirement, not just the – I've talked about this before, that all marinas have to provide space to liveaboards to help us meet our affordable housing requirements. And I hope we can get the parking for the 94965 on the agenda at some point where – so if you're a houseboat member or a Marin City resident, you can get the Prox card or whatever we call those things so we can get some local people, more local people shopping downtown. Yeah. And the houseboat folks have asked for that. For the last few years. Lewis and all that. Yeah. And I think they would, you know, bring some more added business downtown. And same thing for Marin City. Agreed. |
| 03:25:32.36 | Ray Withy | They do the banking here. I mean, this is where they go. |
| 03:25:38.91 | Ray Withy | for the last few years. |
| 03:25:48.89 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 03:25:48.90 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Okay, moving on then. Any public comment on that? Okay, bring it back. |
| 03:25:56.18 | Ray Withy | I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor, just to echo what City Manager said about bringing Fort Baker here to have some sort of an informational, you know, presentation on what they're doing and an update would be helpful. |
| 03:26:11.60 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 03:26:11.62 | Ray Withy | Okay. From what I observed, they've got a bunch of old broken down buildings and they looking to get private people to come in there and work with them to just redo them almost in the same place and everything else. It's just trying to upgrade something that can't be upgraded. Okay. Council member committee reports. You have a... |
| 03:26:41.86 | Ray Withy | The CDBG, which is the Community Development Block Grant, we are going to be meeting in February the 19th, and we're going to have a follow-up regional meeting for Richardson Bay on March 6th, just FYI. And the purpose of CDBG is to provide grants for, you know, housing projects and, you know, |
| 03:26:45.69 | Ray Withy | Mm-hmm. |
| 03:26:45.97 | Ariana Agnew | you |
| 03:27:11.42 | Ray Withy | charity outreach projects and so |
| 03:27:17.99 | Ava | Okay. |
| 03:27:18.48 | Ray Withy | Thank you. And it's a broader group, and then they meet regionally to kind of get the funds. |
| 03:27:26.54 | Ray Withy | Okay. Okay, next I'm going to... All right, next will be the mayor's appointments, and I'd like to go over that. |
| 03:27:39.59 | Ray Withy | A bag delegate will be council member of Whithy. The art commission liaison will be Councilmember Pfeiffer. um I... I urge you to please come in with your mission statement, and I urge all the members, council members, that we will be taking applications, so it would be nice to get all of us to participate in putting some people in there. Okay, Board of Library Trustees will be Council Member Theodorus. The BAC, Business Advisory Committee, will be Tom Theodoros and Ray Withey. The Cobb liaison will be Councilmember Withey. The Legislative Review Committee will be Mayor Leone and Councilmember Theodorus. The Community Development Block Grant Priority Setting Committee. I want to really tackle that. I want to see what that is, so I'd like to recommend myself. The Disaster Preparedness Committee liaison will be Councilmember Theodorus. Disco MCCMC appointment. go back to that. Finance Committee will be Vice Mayor Leon and Council Member Withey. Historic Landmarks Board will be. at this right. Thank you. |
| 03:29:15.49 | Unknown | You... |
| 03:29:15.92 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 03:29:15.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:29:16.03 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Okay, that's what I thought. Okay. Council Member, Vice Mayor Leone. |
| 03:29:17.51 | Unknown | That's fine. Thank you. |
| 03:29:20.84 | Unknown | I think it's already. |
| 03:29:22.46 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 03:29:22.83 | Unknown | and hard work. |
| 03:29:22.96 | Ray Withy | The hospitality business development plan will be Councilmember Withey. Joint Powers Authority Oversight Committee, it's an MCCM appointment. I'll go back to that. |
| 03:29:37.22 | Ray Withy | Um... All right, I'm going to go down to Marin Clean Energy. It will be, we have Vice Mayor Leon. Do we have two? |
| 03:29:49.96 | Ava | We have an alternate. |
| 03:29:50.74 | Ray Withy | Alternate will be Council Member Withey. |
| 03:29:53.56 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 03:29:55.94 | Ray Withy | Marin County Transit District will be Mayor Weiner. MTA, Marin Telecommunications will be Councilmember Theodorus. MCC-MC Legislative Committee |
| 03:30:15.44 | Ray Withy | That's the death community. I'm sorry. |
| 03:30:18.04 | Ray Withy | Well, speaking of Berlin. |
| 03:30:18.77 | Ray Withy | It beats at like 8 o'clock. I can't. |
| 03:30:21.08 | Ray Withy | Yeah, well, Council Member Theodorus will get up at that time because I'll call him up at 7. |
| 03:30:24.45 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 03:30:24.49 | Thomas Theodores | I'll call them up at 7. This is the legislative? |
| 03:30:27.78 | Ray Withy | Yeah, this is a legislative committee of the MCC, the Marin County of Council and Mayors. |
| 03:30:32.88 | Thomas Theodores | Thank you. |
| 03:30:32.89 | Ray Withy | That's the best committee, sorry. I supported that. That's one. Thank you. |
| 03:30:34.73 | Thomas Theodores | Thank you. |
| 03:30:34.80 | Ava | It's a good one. |
| 03:30:35.22 | Ray Withy | This one. |
| 03:30:37.52 | Thomas Theodores | Thank you. I need my backyard. |
| 03:30:39.73 | Ray Withy | Thank you. |
| 03:30:39.78 | Thomas Theodores | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 03:30:40.08 | Ray Withy | Yeah. Mara will be marijuana. Mosquito vector control, well Bill Wings stepped down, so we'll address that hopefully by the next meeting. I don't want to bug you now. North Bay Division League of Council of California Cities, Council Member Withey. The OMET will be Mayor Weiner and Council Member Theodorus. G-G-N-A-R-A Parkland's Transportation Task Force, Mayor Weiner. Park and Recreation Commission Liaison Mayor Leone, Vice Mayor Leone. R-B-R-A, we'll kind of leave it like it is, Mayor Leon and myself. School district liaison will be vice mayor Leon. You've got to go back to school anyway. |
| 03:31:39.04 | Unknown | I think I need to get my back to the... |
| 03:31:41.44 | Ray Withy | Sewer ad hoc committee will be myself and Mayor Leon. We could work together on the pipeline. Sustainability Commission liaison will be Councilmember Withey. Transportation Authority of Marin will be Mayor Weiner. Trees and Views Committee Liaison will be Council Member Theodorus. Underground Committee Liaison, Mayor Weiner. And I think that's all for now. |
| 03:32:20.83 | Ray Withy | Okay. Bing, bing, bing, bing. Where are we? All right. Any other reports of any public comment? Okay. Then let's come back up and other reports of significance. Are there any from any members, council members? All right. |
| 03:32:41.50 | Ray Withy | You've read the articles about the, you know, since I'm the school person, you know, just so there's a lot going on over there, I would encourage you to keep yourself up to date on that stuff because it both involves a lot of debt and as well as some social and philosophical issues. So I'll try to get to if there's any |
| 03:32:41.51 | Ray Withy | Okay. |
| 03:32:50.51 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:32:50.61 | Unknown | yourself up to |
| 03:33:05.19 | Ray Withy | further developments, but that's really impacts La Salito and our neighbors. |
| 03:33:10.72 | Ava | Thank you. |
| 03:33:12.99 | Ray Withy | I'm sorry, what was that about? |
| 03:33:15.48 | Ray Withy | The school district pushing the campus to Marin City, the public school campus to Marin City. |
| 03:33:16.58 | Ray Withy | Thank you. Oh. |
| 03:33:21.86 | Ray Withy | um And they're going to have to invest in doing that and raise some money to do that in order to get the facilities up to snuff. There's a lot of issues around that, depending on your point of view. |
| 03:33:36.12 | Ray Withy | Thank you. I went and made a $1,000 contribution. I think I included, I will include all of you in that. And that was to promote the gun turn in from the county. I think, you know, I'm for that. To me, it doesn't matter. You have a gun, you can kill someone. And I think the less guns we have out there, the less chance that will be. In closing, I'd like to close in memory of two people that have... kind of have an impact on our town. I'm one with Sam Hope. Sam was very involved in this community for years. Great sailor, and he'll be missed. And the other was George Ryan. George Ryan also passed, and George was one of the first people that he talked me into joining the... the dog pack. He was one of the original people that started that and he passed. So I'd like to close this meeting in their memory. and also my dog, Caesar. But anyway, meeting adjourned. We have a second? Second. Okay. Thank you. Thank you all. |
| 03:34:52.73 | Ava | Thank you. |