City Council Meeting - June 04, 2013

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Meeting Summary

CALL TO ORDER
CALL TO ORDER IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, 420 LITHO STREET 7:00 PM 📄
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 PM on Tuesday, June 4, 2013. Roll call was taken, confirming attendance of all councilmembers 📄. The Mayor noted a closed session was held on litigation matters (SCAF vs. Sausalito and Clipper Harbor vs. Sausalito) and invited public comment on those items, but none was offered 📄. The agenda was approved unanimously 📄.
Motion
Motion to approve the agenda, seconded, and passed unanimously 📄.
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Presentation by Abbot Chambers on the Library Remodel Celebration 📄
City Librarian Abbot Chambers presents on the completed remodel of the Sausalito Public Library, highlighting the new enclosed children's area and redesigned living room. He expresses gratitude for the Sausalito Library Foundation's $115,000 matching grant and logistical support, which made the project possible. Key contributors recognized include Foundation President Barbara Geisler and board member Joanne Goldschmidt, who provided design expertise and supervised furniture installations. 📄 The Mayor presents a Certificate of Appreciation to the Foundation. 📄 Councilmembers praise the remodel: Ray Withy commends the pride it brings to the city 📄, an unnamed councilmember (possibly Pfeiffer) apologizes for missing the celebration but lauds the transformation, especially the children's area 📄, another councilmember appreciates the community-wide collaboration and movable stacks that enhance the library as a community center 📄, and Thomas Theodores notes the progress in partnership and thanks for the children's room reducing disruptions 📄.
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Minutes of the Regular City Council meeting of May 21, 2013 📄
The council discussed approving the minutes from the May 21, 2013 meeting, with clarifications provided via email by the city clerk 📄. Councilmembers reviewed specific edits, such as changing numbers to words in a paragraph for clarity 📄. The discussion was brief and procedural, focusing on ensuring accuracy before approval.
Motion
Motion to approve the minutes with clarifications; passed unanimously 📄.
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CONSENT CALENDAR 📄
The consent calendar was presented as requiring no decision and expected unanimous council support. Councilmember Pfeiffer sought clarification on item 4E (pier project), confirming it was solely for rehabilitation of the fishing pier with grant funds, not adding boat docking or scope creep 📄. Councilmember Theodores raised a question about the bidding process for capital projects, specifically asking if multiple bids were obtained for items like the sewer rate study and fishing pier 📄. Public Works Director Jonathan Goldman responded that multiple proposals were received for the rate study, but only one for the fishing pier, which was from a reputable firm 📄.
Motion
Motion to approve the consent calendar made by Ray Withy 📄, seconded, and passed with all in favor.
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Waste Characterization Study (Andrew Davidson, Staff Engineer) 📄
Andrew Davidson introduced the Waste Characterization Study, funded by a $24,000 grant from the Marin County JPA, aiming to identify materials in the landfill that could be recycled or composted to work towards zero waste by 2025. 📄 Michelle Leonard of SCS Engineers presented the study's methodology and results, which involved manual sorting of waste samples from residential (single-family up to 4 units and multifamily 5+ units), commercial, Molly Stones, public receptacles, and roll-off boxes. 📄 Key findings: 67% of Sausalito's waste is currently recoverable through existing recycling/composting programs, with compostable organics (especially food waste) and paper being the largest components. 📄 Recommendations focused on education/outreach, increasing public recycling bins, and enhancing commercial food waste programs. 📄 Council questions included clarification on sampling definitions (single-family vs. multifamily), seasonal variations, current diversion rates (~60%), cost impacts for businesses (none), and low-hanging fruit like improving food waste participation and commercial recycling. 📄 Councilmembers emphasized the need for public outreach and addressing challenges in multifamily/commercial compliance. 📄
Motion
Motion to accept the study and provide direction to the Sustainability Commission to review and pursue its recommendations to divert recyclable/compostable materials and strive towards the JPA's 2025 zero waste goal, with an amendment to encourage public outreach prior to implementation. 📄 The motion, as amended, passed unanimously. 📄
Public Comment 3 2 In Favor 1 Neutral
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Continued Budget Discussions / Review of Capital Improvement Projects (Administrative Services Director/Treasurer Charlie Francis) 📄
Administrative Services Director/Treasurer Charlie Francis presented the fiscal year 2013-14 draft budget, focusing on fiscal sustainability, infrastructure investment, and maintaining services. The revised budget shows a general fund surplus of $30,000, up from $17,000. The presentation linked the budget to the council's priority calendar, detailing funding for items like the EPA order ($2,073,000), financial planning ($10,000), and bicycle congestion mitigation ($125,000 grant). Public Works Director Jonathan Goldman highlighted specific capital projects: Gate 6 Road signal modifications (grant-funded, multi-jurisdictional), Harbor to Gate 5 Road improvements (grant-eligible), South City Limits to Richardson bike/pedestrian project ($125,000 planning grant with public outreach), and the STAIR program disaster evacuation map (draft near completion). 📄 Francis emphasized labor reforms (pension tiers, OPEB, healthcare) saving about $50,000 per new hire, with high staff turnover expected. 📄 Reserves are strong: liquid at 27% ($2.6M) and total at 77% of general fund. 📄 Council discussion included: Councilmember Pfeiffer raised concerns about future CalPERS increases (50% starting 2015) and Series B bond payments (starting 2026), advocating for setting aside surplus funds and public transparency. 📄 Councilmember Theodores clarified that Series B bonds are paid via property taxes, not city budget, and noted pension reforms address rising costs. 📄 Francis explained the fire annexation benefits, including absorbing overtime costs from injured firefighters. 📄 Pfeiffer requested a public summary of future financial obligations. 📄
Public Comment 1 1 Neutral
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Amend Master Fee Schedule to Revise Resident Parking Program and Authorize Flat-Rate Pricing for Parking in Municipal Parking Lots 1-4 on Certain Dates 📄
Staff presentation by Jonathon Goldman and City Manager Adam Politzer proposed amending the master fee schedule to authorize the city manager (as parking manager) to set flat-rate pricing for municipal parking lots 1-4 during periods of high demand, to increase revenue and manage parking supply. 📄 Councilmember Pfeiffer raised concerns about whether residents would be exempt from flat-rate fees during their three free hours. Staff clarified the resolution does not prohibit charging residents, leaving discretion to the city manager. 📄 Councilmember Pfeiffer expressed strong concerns about fairness to residents, suggesting the resolution should explicitly exempt residents from flat-rate fees. 📄 Councilmember Withy supported the proposal, citing common practice in other cities and the need for parking management during events like America's Cup. 📄 Another councilmember suggested limiting flat-rate authority to non-residents initially. 📄 Discussion included operational feasibility of differentiating residents via parking software 📄, variable pricing strategies, and the importance of clear public communication for special event pricing. 📄 Councilmember Pfeiffer reiterated concerns about impacts on seniors and social events like Jazz by the Bay, and motioned to limit the resolution to non-residents. 📄 City Attorney Mary Wagner advised researching legal implications of differential pricing for residents vs. non-residents. 📄
Motion
Motion by Councilmember Theodores to continue the item to a date uncertain, seconded by Councilmember Withy. Motion passed. 📄
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Adopt a Resolution Regulating Parking along Portions of Coloma Street, Ebbtide Avenue, and the 600 Block of Sausalito Boulevard, Director of Public Works, Jonathon Goldman 📄
Director of Public Works Jonathon Goldman presented the item, seeking parking regulations for safety and traffic flow improvements. The regulations include: installing 110 feet of red curb (no parking) on Ebbtide Avenue at the T-intersection near MLK Campus to improve sight distance for southbound traffic 📄; adding about 50 feet of red curb on the opposite side of a bump-out on Ebbtide to ensure two-lane operations 📄; implementing 3-hour parking limits on both sides of the east-west segment of Ebbtide on school days (7am-4pm) to increase turnover for school drop-off/pickup 📄; establishing a no-parking zone on the north side of Coloma Street near the MLK Campus entrance for sight distance safety 📄; and reinstating a short no-parking zone at 600 Sausalito Boulevard to protect a driveway 📄. Councilmember Pfeiffer inquired about the number of parking spaces lost (estimated ~7 spots) and flexibility in parking usage in the dog park area; Goldman confirmed no anticipated reduction in flexibility 📄, 📄. Councilmember Theodores asked about enforcement of the 3-hour parking; Goldman indicated parking enforcement does patrol the area and will enforce 📄.
Motion
Motion to adopt the resolution regulating parking along the specified portions of Coloma Street, Ebbtide Avenue, and the 600 block of Sausalito Boulevard, seconded, and approved unanimously 📄.
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City Manager Information for Council 📄
City Manager Adam Politzer provided updates on several city matters. Harrison Park (Mary Ann Sears Park) is nearing completion, with a tentative ribbon-cutting ceremony scheduled for Saturday, June 15th, chosen to align with Mary Ann Sears' birthday (June 10th) per community interest 📄. Councilmember Pfeiffer noted unavailability but others could attend 📄. Special event season is underway: Caledonia Street Fair had good attendance but weather impacted stay length; Blues and Jazz by the Bay had a successful kickoff with perfect weather 📄. The Fourth of July parade is approaching, and councilmembers are asked to secure vehicles or request assistance for participation 📄. The library held a soft grand opening with well-attended events and is expanding into a community center with diverse activities 📄. Todd Teachout's retirement will be recognized at the June 18th meeting, with a celebration party on June 20th in the Edgewater Room; Politzer praised Teachout's contributions as an 'unsung hero' 📄. Three meetings remain before the summer break, and councilmembers are encouraged to submit any new agenda items 📄.
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Future Agenda Items 📄
Councilmember Pfeiffer reiterates the importance of establishing an Arts Commission, noting it has been pushed for over three years, and expresses excitement about the Bike Committee moving forward. 📄 He emphasizes Sausalito's global reputation for artists and the need for an Arts Commission, asking about applicant numbers but not receiving a specific answer. 📄 Ray Withy checks for public comments before moving to the next item.
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Councilmember Committee Reports 📄
Councilmember Pfeiffer reported on a successful Coast Guard Auxiliary event during National Safe Boating Week, distributing 150 free life jackets and coloring books to children 📄. Councilmember Thomas Theodores suggested a future agenda item to formalize policies on how council members represent the city's position versus personal opinions when interacting with outside agencies 📄. There was brief agreement from other council members to add this topic to a future agenda 📄. Ray Withy provided an update on downtown taxi cab parking, noting they are allowed on El Fortel until 1:00 PM, after which they are redirected 📄.
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Other reports of significance 📄
The discussion focused on taxi operations and parking regulations in Sausalito. Ray Withy explained adjustments to taxi stands, including using a red zone near Bank of America until 1 PM, after which it becomes a cab stand accommodating eight cabs 📄. Councilmember Pfeiffer expressed concern over reduced downtown parking, noting the area previously had resident/visitor parking and opposing the change 📄. Thomas Theodores highlighted challenges in getting cabs at Spencer Avenue and suggested pressing the Marin Managers committee or JPA to address licensing and service issues, as cabs congregate downtown due to tourism 📄. Ray Withy clarified that licensed cabs in Marin can operate anywhere, but Sausalito attracts them due to tourism and runs to San Francisco, leading to new regulations like designated taxi stands and prohibitions on soliciting 📄. Adam Politzer recommended a future discussion with JPA representatives like Paul Berlant or Jeff Rawls to explore regulatory authority and options, as the JPA manages enforcement 📄. Councilmember Pfeiffer also commented positively on the Caledonia Street Fair, praising its unique crafts and community spirit despite windy conditions 📄.
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ADJOURNMENT 📄
The meeting concluded with a brief adjournment process. Joanne Goldschmidt thanked the participants 📄, and Jonathon Goldman expressed his favor, likely regarding the meeting's proceedings or a prior item, though it was during the adjournment 📄.

Meeting Transcript

Time Speaker Text
00:00:00.03 Ray Withy Good evening.
00:00:05.75 Ray Withy Mm, so good.

Good evening and welcome to Tuesday, June 4th, 2013 City Council meeting. Debbie, would you please take the roll call?
00:00:16.60 Unknown Councilmember Pfeiffer? Here. Councilmember Theodores? Present. Councilmember Whitty? Here. Vice Mayor Leone? Here. Mayor Weiner?
00:00:19.34 Ray Withy present.

here.

here.

Thank you.

Present.

Joan, you want to lead us in the pledge?
00:00:31.40 Ray Withy Is there any other Joan in there?

Thank you.

Thank you.
00:00:33.01 Unknown right now.
00:00:33.76 Ray Withy Young man.
00:00:53.56 Ray Withy Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, we went into closed session on a couple of litigation matters. One was SCAF versus Sausalito. The other is Clipper Harbor versus Sausalito. At this time here, is there any public comment on those two items?

Thank you.

If not, then I'd like to next move to approval of the agenda.
00:01:18.48 Unknown (Councilmember) So moved.

Second.
00:01:20.90 Ray Withy All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. Thank you.
00:01:21.76 Unknown (Councilmember) I,
00:01:21.98 Ray Withy I know.
00:01:22.26 Unknown (Councilmember) Bye.
00:01:22.30 Ray Withy you
00:01:25.30 Ray Withy at this time here so we can get you out. We're going to have a presentation by Abbott on the library remodel.
00:01:39.51 Unknown Good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of the City Council. As you know, the Sausalito Public Library recently completed a remodel project, which included creating an enclosed children's area and a new layout for the library's living room.

As Sausalito City Librarian, I am thrilled with the results.

And the feedback from library users has been overwhelmingly positive.

This week we are celebrating the remodel with a series of events culminating on Thursday with a talk on the future of public libraries.

this evening.

I'm pleased to stand before you to recognize the Saucido Library Foundation and its donors.

The city of Sausalito would not have been able to accomplish the library remodel Without the matching grant, provided by the foundation.

The Saucedo Library Foundation was founded in 2006.

to fund just this sort of project.

Specifically, The Saucelita Library Foundation provided $115,000 towards the purchase of new furniture and shelving for the remodel, including our new mobile display shelves and the beautiful new service desk.

Perhaps equally important, has been the sage advice that the Library Foundation Board the Foundation Advisory Council, and Foundation President Barbara Geisler have given me throughout the project.

I would also like to specially acknowledge the contributions of Joanne Goldschmidt of the commercial furniture and planning firm, Jay Goldschmidt & Associates.

Joanne is a Foundation Board member and volunteered countless hours throughout the library remodel.

She advised us on all design elements of the project and arrange for special library discounts from furniture vendors.

She and her associate, Tim Pryor, also personally supervised all furniture installations.

Please join me in expressing heartfelt thanks to the Sausalito Library Foundation and its donors.
00:03:44.23 Jonathon Goldman Go ahead.
00:03:55.35 Ray Withy Don't throw the book at them.
00:03:57.55 Unknown (Councilmember) Thank you.

Thank you.
00:03:57.72 Ray Withy Thank you.
00:04:00.91 Unknown (Councilmember) Maybe I should get my glasses off so I can actually read it.
00:04:05.11 Ray Withy So I can actually read it. I'll just wing through it.
00:04:14.07 Unknown (Councilmember) Certificate of Appreciation. This certificate is awarded to the Sausalito Library Foundation.

in recognition of the financial and logistical support provided by the Library Foundation and its donors to the Sausalito Public Library Remodel Project.

The Sausalito Library Foundation's matching grant made possible a renewal project that invites community members of all ages to read, study, work, and explore. Your dedication to the library and to the people of Sausalito is deeply appreciated. Presented this fourth day of June and signed by our Mayor, Herb Wainer.

And we've presented the barber.
00:04:57.30 Barbara Geisler Thank you for this nice certificate.

and
00:05:01.74 Thomas Theodores Oh, we're going to need a photo. Oh, oh, oh.
00:05:03.04 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
00:05:03.09 Barbara Geisler Oh, oh, oh.
00:05:05.74 Joanne Goldschmidt I think she just wants us to go.
00:05:11.17 Barbara Geisler Thank you.
00:05:11.21 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
00:05:11.27 Barbara Geisler Thank you.
00:05:11.32 Joanne Goldschmidt Yeah.
00:05:11.41 Barbara Geisler I want to thank the city for approving the budget, for moving forward with us. It wouldn't have been possible without this great partnership, and we really, really appreciate it. Thanks to the staff, planning, Department of Public Works, everyone. Abbott and his staff were just incredible.
00:05:11.56 Joanne Goldschmidt .

Thank you.

Thank you.
00:05:36.60 Barbara Geisler I'm the president, so I'm going to accept this with gratitude, but I am no way the star of this show. The star was Joanne Goldschmidt, a member of our board who put in countless hours.
00:05:39.83 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
00:05:40.21 Unknown Thank you.
00:05:49.68 Barbara Geisler And I want to thank you for your expertise and your talent.

and your generosity.
00:05:59.01 Ray Withy Now take a picture.
00:06:18.27 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.

and all I was able to do is to take it and make it work. So I love the library. I'm so pleased to be part of this city and town library.
00:06:37.79 Ray Withy I'm going to lose my...

The city also was very... I was there the other night, and we're very, very proud of what you, Abbott, and your committee and group have done. You bring a lot of pride to our city in what you have done, so thank you very, very much.
00:07:00.54 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Mr. Mayor, can I make a comment?

I just want to say I'm so sorry I was out of town when you had your celebration, but I've walked into that library. It is amazing what you have done. It is just absolutely just amazing. It doesn't look anything like what we had before. You have the area for the children. I'm just really thrilled, and I want to thank you very much.
00:07:02.92 Ray Withy I just wanted
00:07:30.46 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
00:07:30.51 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Thank you.
00:07:30.53 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
00:07:30.93 Ray Withy Sure.
00:07:31.39 Unknown (Councilmember) than him.
00:07:31.54 Jonathon Goldman Amen.
00:07:32.25 Unknown (Councilmember) And I'd like to say that I particularly appreciate that this is an effort of the city and the community coming together for something that really spans the whole community when we're at the celebration. It's all the way from the very youngest to the through our seniors and all the way in between And I particularly am happy that the Foundation funded the furniture and my favorite part of the movable stacks because we now make this a community center. And we're having this session this Thursday on the Library of the Future. But I think we've made one step with this remodel about changing how we relate to each other and bringing community together. So it's a wonderful project and thanks for your helping it.
00:08:11.16 Unknown I don't know.
00:08:11.57 Thomas Theodores Thank you.

I just wanted to say thank you for all your efforts. And we've come a long way when we were just arguing about bringing back the book budget, you know, where you were funding the book budget. And that's a good thing. We're making more and more progress in working together with the Library Foundation and the and the board as well, and it's a really good partnership and I'm very proud of it. And my kids, thank you for the children's room. Thank you very much. They won't be bugging everybody else quite so much. So thank you very much.
00:08:41.42 Unknown you
00:08:42.43 Ray Withy My colleagues have said it all.
00:08:43.98 Ray Withy Thank you. One other quick comment. You know, when I grew up, there used to be a saying that children should be seen and not heard. Well, when you go into that library where the children's room is now, I think that applies very, very well.

So thank you once again.

Okay.

At this time here, we have a public communications and this time here the City Council to hear from citizens regarding matters that are not on the agenda.

Except in very limited situations, state law precludes the council from taking any action or engaging in discussions concerning items of business that are not on the agenda. Is there anybody else? Anybody that would like to make a comment on anything that is not on the agenda at this time?

Okay, then let's move on to going for the action minutes of the previous meeting, and that would be the minutes of the regular council meeting of May 21st, 2013.
00:09:46.28 Unknown So.
00:09:46.88 Unknown (Councilmember) Thank you.
00:09:46.96 Unknown Thank you.
00:09:47.89 Unknown (Councilmember) Well, you I would second it with the addition of the clarifications that were sent in the email by the city clerk to us today.
00:09:55.80 Joanne Goldschmidt .
00:09:55.84 Thomas Theodores But it's...
00:09:56.23 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.

Thank you.
00:09:58.20 Unknown (Councilmember) you Okay.
00:10:00.14 Thomas Theodores This is the part that's clarified.
00:10:06.16 Unknown The paragraph, beginning with line five, I had only used
00:10:18.97 Thomas Theodores you
00:10:20.02 Unknown (Councilmember) Thank you.
00:10:20.03 Thomas Theodores You just described them as easy numbers. Oh, so you put the numbers there.
00:10:20.96 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) I've been to Humber.
00:10:22.28 Unknown (Councilmember) Thank you.
00:10:24.69 Joanne Goldschmidt Yeah.
00:10:25.03 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) I put the words now. There were numbers before. Now it's word. Now we can follow it. Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Debbie.
00:10:26.35 Thomas Theodores There were numbers before.
00:10:28.20 Ray Withy Thank you.
00:10:28.30 Thomas Theodores No.
00:10:28.88 Ray Withy Thank you.

Okay.

So all in favor? Aye. Opposed? All right. Consent calendar, removal of items from the consent calendar that is listed under the consent calendar, considered routine and non-controversial.
00:10:34.68 Joanne Goldschmidt THE END OF THE END OF THE
00:10:34.82 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) All right.
00:10:46.21 Ray Withy require no decision. I expect that they have unanimous council support.

him may be enacted by the Council when one motion informed from listed below.
00:10:56.00 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Mr. Mayor, I have a question about item 4E. Wait, is it, yeah, the pier project. I just had a quick clarification regarding that. On page 7 of 12, it's marked recreational fishing, but then it's marked non-fishing shoreline recreation. And I just wanted to confirm we're talking about just rehabilitation of the fishing pier and not adding any boat docking or, you know, anything that could be scope creep like that.
00:10:57.09 Ray Withy Yeah.

Thank you.
00:11:41.29 Jonathon Goldman Mr. Mayor, Jonathan Goldman, you're a public works director. You're absolutely correct. We're just proposing to rehabilitate the fishing pier with grant funds.
00:11:51.08 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Thank you. Very exciting.
00:11:51.13 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.

Thanks.

Okay.
00:11:54.03 Unknown questions on the section.
00:11:56.71 Thomas Theodores Yeah, just a question for the city engineer, I mean city manager, excuse me. There's no city engineer here. Sorry, Jonathan. Well, I don't know. He's there. Yeah, pretty soon. Is both for all these items that are more capital, they're sort of quasi-capital projects. And one of them, Rett's project, he actually explained why it was sole-sourced versus versus the other ones which were not provided information whether they've gone out to multiple bids. So I would ask us to make sure we get back to our stated...
00:12:04.42 Joanne Goldschmidt I don't know, he's a, yeah.
00:12:08.36 Unknown Thank you.
00:12:08.47 Joanne Goldschmidt Yeah.
00:12:08.61 Unknown Thank you.
00:12:33.48 Thomas Theodores process of making sure we have numerous bids for these unless they're emergency items for both services and capital projects. So I don't know if Jonathan, if you've had multiple bids on some of these and just information wasn't included, whether it's on the sewer rate, storm drain assessment funding study and the fishing pier, but do we go out for multiple bids on those?
00:13:02.54 Jonathon Goldman We solicited proposals for both. In the case of the rate study, we received, it's in the staff report, five or six proposals. Oh, okay, I missed that part. In the case of the fishing period, we received one proposal. Only one? Yes.
00:13:09.80 Thomas Theodores Oh, okay, I missed that part.

Only one? Yes. Okay. That makes it hard to get multiple. It's from a good firm. No, I know. I know they're involved in this other stuff, so that's what gave me comfort. All right. Thanks for that information.
00:13:19.47 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
00:13:19.87 Unknown from an official.
00:13:20.97 Unknown Thank you.
00:13:21.04 Unknown Thank you.
00:13:21.07 Unknown No.
00:13:21.10 Unknown No.
00:13:21.19 Unknown Bye.
00:13:26.61 Thomas Theodores Thank you.
00:13:26.64 Unknown to.
00:13:26.91 Thomas Theodores Thank you.

Thank you.
00:13:27.82 Ray Withy So I move to approve the consent calendar.
00:13:31.97 Thomas Theodores Thank you.
00:13:31.99 Ray Withy Second.
00:13:32.83 Ray Withy Thank you.
00:13:32.97 Ray Withy All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Okay, now we'll go into business items. Waste characterization study, Andrew Davidson.
00:13:33.96 Ray Withy Bye.
00:13:43.65 Ray Withy Thank you, Andrew.
00:13:46.57 Andrew Davidson Thank you.
00:13:56.56 Andrew Davidson Mine's the intro.
00:14:05.32 Andrew Davidson I'll keep this brief because the interesting part is our guest speaker this evening. I'd like to thank the Mayor, City Council, City Manager, Director of Public Works, and of course the Saucena Sustainability Commission.
00:14:07.68 Greg (from BCRS) Thank you.
00:14:08.00 Unknown Thank you.
00:14:17.35 Andrew Davidson for the opportunity to speak or to present for you the City of Sausalito Waste Characterization My name is Andrew Davidson, staff engineer in your Department of Public Works. I will briefly present, I'll touch on the study's history, results, fiscal impacts, and suggested motion for the Council's consideration With us tonight is Ms. Michelle Leonard, Vice President of SCS Engineers, who will present the Waste Characterization Study.

very quickly. The city is a member of the Marin County Hazardous and Solid Waste Management Joint Powers Authority, affectionately known as the JPA. The JPA is a body that is to comply, is set up to comply with the California Integrated Waste Management Act of 1989. And the goal of the act is to reduce materials that are actually being landfilled.

In 2007, the JPA adopted a goal to achieve 80% landfill diversion by 2012 and zero waste by 2025. And to assist member organizations, they provide grant funding to work towards that zero waste goal.

you And with the support of your sustainability commission, staff went out and procured a grant in the amount of $24,000 to fund the waste characterization study. And the goal of that study is to help identify, quantify what materials are still going to the landfill which might otherwise be removed from the waste stream by recycling or composting.

Yep.

Amen.

In December of 2012, a request for proposals for qualified firms was issued. And in February of this year, SCS engineers was hired to perform the waste characterization study.
00:16:06.19 Andrew Davidson The study consists of both a manual sorting of Sausalito's trash and an analysis of the data collected. The manual sorting took place at the Golden Bear Transfer Station in Richmond where your waste hauler, BCRS, takes the trash from Sausalito. And I would like to say thank you to both BCRS and Golden Bear. They really stepped up and helped accomplish this study by working with SCS very closely.

The photo on your left is a BCRS truck delivering trash to be sampled at Golden Bear.

And the photo on your right provides some scale to what is delivered. Behind Greg and I is a pile of trash which represents somewhere between a quarter and a third of the amount of trash delivered to Golden Bear every day.
00:16:56.55 Andrew Davidson And there's the drum.

BCRS and SCS worked together to obtain representative waste samples from five designated generating sectors.

Here you can see the crew, the SCS crew, busy at work sorting the garbage into categories, which they then weighed to determine the percent weight of a category of material in that trash. The sorting activity took place in March of this year.

Briefly, I'd want to highlight the recoverability that was determined through this study. The first column lists the generators of the waste that was quantified. So you've got five different entities there that were sampled.

And the numbers on the right column are the percent by weight of material that was found in the waste stream that actually could have been recycled or composted and not tossed into the garbage under your existing composting and recycling program.
00:17:57.08 Andrew Davidson Now Ms. Leonard will go into the study's recommendations, but I did want to mention that the recommendations for diverting recyclable and composting materials from the landfill primarily revolve around public outreach and education. There, of course, will be monetary costs, as there always are.

With your direction, the Sustainability Commission could take the lead to determine how best to implement the study's recommendations, and if necessary, to look for funding sources to do so.

In addition to the outreach and education, the study mentions increasing the number of waste recycling receptacles and compost recyclables in the public and touristed areas. Quotes in 2012 for cart garages, which are similar to the ones that are here in Robin Sweeney Park, were about $600 per garage. In each one of the garages is a container that is provided by BCRS and maintained by BCRS. These garages could be clustered, trash and recycling together, or if you want, you could go to three to include compost.

So now before finally turning the microphone over to Ms. Leonard, I'd like to present the following for your consideration. Have the City Council accept the City of Sausalito Waste Characterization Study, ask questions, take public comment, and provide direction to the City of Sausalito Sustainability Commission And.

I can't read it from here, pursue the recommendations of the study to further divert Sausalito's recyclable and compostable materials from the waste stream and to continue to strive towards the JPA's 2025 zero waste goal. And with no further ado, I'd like to introduce Ms. Michelle Leonard of SCS engineers who will present the data.
00:19:52.52 Michelle Leonard Michelle Leonard, Vice President and Director of Sustainable Materials Management for SAS Engineers.

I appreciate the opportunity to present the results of our study tonight. I also wanted to thank both Andy and Greg of BCRS for their help in accomplishing the study and also the members of the Sustainability Commission for their great input as well.

So just briefly, wait, I've got to control this.

Andy went a little bit over the methodology that we used, but we'll talk a little bit about that and how we picked the waste that we were going to sample. And I'd like to spend most of the time talking about the results and particularly to focus what we found could still be recovered, recycled, composted out of the waste that is going to the landfill from the city. And then based on those results, some of the recommendations that we have of what you might consider implementing here in the city.

So there was a number of objectives of the study when we first started out. We wanted to quantify the existing disposed material, and that's why we did the waste sampling and analysis of the disposed waste. We wanted to measure the effectiveness of the existing programs. So by looking at what's still being thrown away, we could identify what materials the existing programs are capturing and what impact the programs are having on the waste that is being generated here in the city.

Then we take that information to quantify what could potentially be recovered out of what's being landfilled by comparing a list of recoverable, recyclable, compostable materials to what we found in the waste stream. And finally, using that information to identify improvements to your existing program, both new programs as well as enhancements to some of the existing activities.

When we first started the program, we knew we wanted to look at the residential sector, and so that includes both the single-family and multifamily homes here in the city. And we knew we also wanted to look at the commercial waste stream.

Then based on our initial meeting with staff and Greg from BCRS, it came to light that there was a few specific generators that the city also wished to characterize, and that's why we added specifically the Molly Stones characterization. It's a large generator in the city. It comprises a lot of the waste that's disposed of, We decided we wanted to focus some of the samples on Molly Stones and then the public receptacles as well.

And then finally, that last group, the roll-off boxes. So those are those big trucks that have that really large dumpster on the back that literally rolls off the back. Those are used both for construction and demolition projects on a temporary basis. They're also used at the yacht harbors for the waste that's generated from the homes and boats there. So those were the waste sectors that we targeted for the study.

In terms of the waste sampling, what we did was we got information from BCRS, and based on the information, we identified that about 60% of all the waste that's generated in the city is from your commercial businesses, and about 40% is from the residential sector. So we balanced the number of samples based on those percentages, and that came out to about 12 samples from the single family homes, four from the multifamily, and actually we manually sorted those. And I'll talk a little bit about what that method is. On the commercial side, you can see we WE TARGETED 20 samples from the commercial sector as well as three specifically from Molly Stones and we also manually sorted those. And then finally the public receptacles, they collected those on a Monday after a busy weekend of tourists and other visitors to the city and we took two samples from those. And then finally those roll-off boxes, we took five samples from the roll-off boxes.

So the waste sampling that was done, as they said, at Golden Bear Transfer Station. On the left-hand side, you see the municipal solid waste, MSW, waste samples, those were divided into ten material types. You can see the ten major categories of those material types. And then within each of those, they had a number of subcategories. And so we sorted that trash for 62 different waste categories. And that was done by picking out out of a sample of about 200 pounds each and then putting them into a bin. And then each bin was weighed The methodology we utilized is consistent with the California Resource Recycling Department, CalRecycle, and we used that methodology so that we would be able to compare the results from Sausalito to some of the statewide studies, so you could see where you stand in relation to the rest of the state and the region as a whole.

And we, as I said, we manually sorted those, so our crew of people picked out the paper and the plastic and the cans and down to those 62 material types. Now on the right side of your screen, you'll see the roll-off visual samples. Roll-off waste tends to be larger, bigger, bulky items. You think of a construction project, you've got a lot of wood, you may have some concrete, big items that don't necessarily lend themselves to hand picking and so what we use for this methodology which again is a Cal Recycle methodology, is to do a visual sampling.

where you estimate the percentages made up of the entire load and assign a percentage to those.

divided into 19 different material types and we took the percentages of those 19 material types for the roll-off samples.

So the results of the study, and hopefully you've all received a copy of the complete study and have all of the data, so I won't bore you too much with it.

FOR THE OVERALL Composition for the city of Sausalito.

You can see that the largest portion is that compostable organics, almost 35% of the waste stream, and then followed by paper, which was about 24%.

I do want to call your attention to there are not only the percentages in this chart but the tonnage numbers as well. And I apologize, but the earlier version that you received of the report and the, in the staff report and the slideshow had some, the tonnages were not correct.

There was some extrapolation that was done that at that time was not correct.

found that mistake and corrected that. So the numbers here reflect the actual or estimated tonnage of each percentage of the waste drain. The study disposes of about 3,200 tons per year of residential and commercial waste. So if you added all those up, you'd get to about 3,200 tons. And then based on the percentages of each of those waste categories that we found in our study.
00:27:36.72 Michelle Leonard To compare the city, the results of our study in the city to both the CalRecycle as well as Marine County JPA study, the two other studies were done in 2009, so a few years back now. But you can see some similarities between what we found here in the city versus the Bay Area region was primarily the counties in the Bay Area. So you can see food is the number one waste that's still being disposed. And then we look down and you see some similarities between miscellaneous paper, compostables, a lot of organics material. It ranges between about 25 and 40 percent in all of those studies, the materials that are compostable.

So you see a lot of similarities, obviously. There's some differences, and I think those differences reflect the existing programs that are here in Sausalito as well as throughout the Bay Area and Marin County specifically, and again the effectiveness of those programs that are being able to to remove or capture some of the materials out of the disposed waste stream.

So I'd like to spend the rest of the time talking about the recoverability and What we found is that there is a significant amount of waste in the city of Sausalage's waste stream that is either compostable or recyclable.

And how we determined that is we took the list of materials that are presently collected and recycled from your city, so residential and commercial waste, as well as the compostable material, and we put those into the category of compostables and recyclables. We also then looked at what could be potentially recoverable. And these are materials that could be recycled or could be composted but presently are not a part of your program here in the city, or there may not be well-developed markets in the region for those materials, or perhaps facilities that can handle some of those. So those are kind of the second tier materials.

Some places they are being recovered. We know they're potentially recoverable perhaps in the future. And then that last column there is the non-recoverable. And those are really the portions of the waste stream that we haven't found a good use for or they're just not economically or...

fiscally effective in getting out of the waste stream and trying to recover either through recycling or composting.
00:30:24.52 Michelle Leonard So let's look at specifically some of the sectors and what we found in the study. Overall, in the city recoverability, there's about 67% that can be composted and recycled. And then if you added that potentially recoverable category, you'd get to about 82%. So what we're saying is of what's still being disposed from the city, about 67% could be recycled.

or composted. And some of those materials include particularly paper and food waste. So those are big percentages of the waste stream that's still being disposed from the city.

If we drill down a little bit into some of those specific sectors in the single family sector, again, we find that about 60% is compostable and recyclable. And again, that's using your existing system. And that compostable is primarily food waste. Food makes up about 30% of the single family.

waste that's being disposed. And then there's about 40% that could be diverted through composting in general, so there's miscellaneous paper and other materials in that waste stream.

Additional opportunities for recovery from the single family waste stream includes textile recycling, about 5% of the waste stream, even carpet. And probably not too much of a surprise to you, a lot of glass containers, particularly wine bottles. Not sure what that means, but it was about 4% of the waste stream. So again, these are items that could be recycled, and for whatever reason, aren't making it into the recycling bin.

In the multifamily sector, we found similar results to the single-family sector, about 70% recyclable and compostable. Overall, if you added that potentially recoverable, you got to about 80%.

and food waste being almost 38% of the multifamily sector.

with remainder composites.

organic material being another 11% and paper 10%.

Um, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE FOUND IS THAT Overall, the multifamily was pretty similar to the single family, and so I think that tells us that the multifamily sector here in your city is doing a pretty good job of participating in the program similar to single family. We don't always find that in studies that we've done and work that we've done.

across throughout California, across the country.

multi-family has historically been a little bit more difficult to get them to participate.

We'll talk about some of the suggestions for that. But overall, I think they're doing pretty good here.

in the city.

When we look at the commercial, sector, again, the compostables, over 40% of the waste stream and 30% of that was the And in particular, in the commercial waste stream, we found a lot of cardboard, office paper, magazines, catalogs, things that you would expect to find from offices, and capturing that could probably divert another 10% of the waste stream.

The Molly Stones samples that we took there, probably not a huge surprise to anybody. A lot of compostables.

over 70% food made up 65% of that.

And, um, We also found cardboard and other plastic containers in the waste stream. This program actually, Even since we've completed the study, Bay Cities has gone back into that store has implemented a more aggressive food waste recovery composting program and so forth.

We're already seeing some of the benefits of the study in that from that initial result They immediately responded to that and we're now capturing some of that material already.

The interesting thing is when we found a lot of the cardboard in plastic, so that stuff could be recycled.

but wasn't getting recycled because it was contaminated with food waste.

So I think the nice part is we'll get the food waste out and then we'll be able to recover the cardboard and some of that plastic material as well.

It all kind of goes together.

And then on the last part of those manual sorts that we did, the public receptacles. And again, we found that compostables are a good portion of the waste stream, about 30%. Food was about 20% of that, and then the rest was kind of the remainder composite of various organics materials. We did find a significant amount of recyclables, like Andy was talking about, green bottles, glass bottles, I'm sorry, green and clear bottles, newspaper, other water bottles, clear containers, soda bottles. So a lot of the recyclable containers particularly are still ending up in the waste stream in those public receptacles.

And then finally the roll-off boxes, which are the ones that we did the visual characterization so we didn't break down into all those individual categories. But as you might imagine, we found, and actually this is a snapshot of the yacht harbors because based on our meeting with the Sustainability Commission They really wanted to see what was coming out of the Yacht Harbor, so we extracted that information specifically.

And we still find quite a bit of pallets and lumber in that waste stream, also some yard waste, carpeting, carpet padding, corrugated cardboard, so almost 10% of those materials. And then that bagged waste, which I would presume was probably a lot of the household garbage. So that's probably where you would have found some more paper as well as the food waste.
00:36:30.12 Michelle Leonard So what does this all mean? Like I said, there is a significant amount of material that could be recovered, both through composting and recycling that's still being thrown away. I think overall in the city, some of the recommendations that we have is to really provide a stronger and more aggressive education and outreach. You've got some great programs here. Your residential program that collects food waste, is wonderful. That's not happening everywhere. And so a lot of that material is still getting into the trash. So a more proactive promotion of the zero waste goals and education and outreach to both the residential and commercial sectors. And really getting strong community support from you folks.

Thank you.

through the city staff and on down to get people to get excited about Zero Ways, to get people to understand what it is and how the city is going to get there.

The organics we saw, the food waste, the green waste, still a big portion of the waste stream. And so we think some focus groups that would, and surveys of residents to find out, What would entice them to put the materials into the right bin to keep that out of the waste stream?

a social marketing campaign where we go out and do one-on-one meetings and surveys and really target those specific materials I think would go a long ways to reaching your zero-waste goals.

On the residential, again, the food waste and the organics, that's 40% of the waste stream. And through a very proactive education and outreach program, you could probably capture a significant amount of that. Paper bags are still a big portion in the single family waste stream. And so, you know, we've got to get people to bring their reusable bags.

and or recycle the paper bags. They can go into the recycling. Containers, the wine bottles, the other glass bottles, you've got an awful lot of artists here in town who might be interested in repurposing some of those and or of course they can be recycled and then there are opportunities in the region for reusing, repurposing of textiles and recycling of carpet as well. On the commercial side, food waste obviously, not only at the Molly Stone store but in the other commercial.

sectors as well and capturing that cardboard and office paper is going to put a significant and your goals for zero waste, and again, reusing and repurposing some of that lumber and pallets that we saw in the roll-off boxes, not only from the construction and demolition projects, but also what we found at the Yacht Harbor.

Molly Stones, like I said, we're already tackling some of that in terms of the food waste and I think that will go a long ways towards even recovering additional recyclables as well.

through some of that direct technical assistance provided by Greg's company as well as city staff and the sustainability commission I know is interested in helping out. I think you can make some great strides there.

And then finally, the public receptacles, like we said, There's still a lot of recyclables, containers particularly, that are going into those trash receptacles.

AND SO, perhaps providing recycling bins out there.

would be one way to capture those. You know, certainly there are cities that have gone as far as banning certain items, but trying to capture some more of those containers obviously is going to impact your recycling as well.

I think that was all I had, and I'd certainly be glad to answer any questions that you have.
00:40:17.41 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) We have any questions?
00:40:18.42 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Mr. Mayor, I have a couple questions.
00:40:18.89 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) have a couple Thank you.
00:40:20.34 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) So thank you very much for your hard work on this study. We really appreciate it. It was very interesting to hear the summary.

So I had just a couple questions. One was, I was curious as to how the sampling was done to start with the single family because many times the single family homes in the single family zoning areas actually have second units maybe inside their footprint. And so I was wondering, did you do anything to confirm that the sampling that you did on the single families were, in fact, you know, the single family homes?
00:41:03.70 Michelle Leonard Well, I believe that single family included up to four units. Isn't that correct? Yes. So single family included up to four units, and those are served by the side loader trucks and have the residential service. The multifamily was those units that are five and above that are typically served by three-yard dumpsters and a different type of truck. And we worked very closely with Bay Cities. They made sure that we got trucks that were just single-family so that they identified those as they came into the transfer station so we knew that that load, that truck, whether it was truck number two, that day was from single family and we could take the samples from that and work closely with them to
00:41:11.44 Unknown Oh.
00:41:14.75 Joanne Goldschmidt Oh.
00:41:26.58 Joanne Goldschmidt Oh.
00:41:44.80 Barbara Geisler Mm-hmm.
00:41:45.01 Jan Johnson Thank you.
00:41:45.21 Barbara Geisler Thank you.
00:41:50.17 Barbara Geisler Mm-hmm.
00:41:58.66 Michelle Leonard you
00:41:59.03 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Thank you.
00:41:59.05 Michelle Leonard Thank you.
00:41:59.13 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) So just to make sure I understand your answer, so when you say single family, you're actually talking about up to four plexes, one unit to four, a range of one unit to four.

And when you mention multifamily, you're actually talking about five units and above, so the larger, maybe apartment or condo complexes. Thank you. And my last question has to do with, did you take a look at, we have, as you know, we have in Sausalito, we have backyard service, and then we have curbside service. I mean, we have, we have people who primarily receive backyard service and then we have folks who primarily receive curbside service. And I've had feedback from residents that it's harder, you know, when, with regards to the current lack of solutions for backyard service. So was there any differentiation made in taking these samples as to know which came from backyard versus curbside.
00:43:06.87 Andrew Davidson No, it is just the waste. So if people chose to leave their garbage in the backyard, it was collected as that. I do want to say regarding the single family versus multi-family, BCRS changed their routes during the sampling time to ensure that they got good samples from defined single family and defined multi.
00:43:07.46 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Okay.
00:43:27.10 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) But when you say define single family, you're still talking about four units. Yeah, and okay. And so I'll save my comment about the other part later. But thank you very much.
00:43:31.12 Andrew Davidson Bye.
00:43:40.09 Unknown and kick question.

Thank you.
00:43:43.54 Thomas Theodores I just had a couple questions. So obviously this is done in a window of time, and maybe not in California as much, and this is from another lifetime ago for me, but certainly in other parts of the country, seasonal variations are huge, especially in a tourist-driven situation, too, in terms of just volumes. So that's what you meant by the extrapolation of what you were trying to do, extrapolate out for the course of the full – because you did it in March, right? It was your sample.
00:44:07.03 Michelle Leonard And originally we had hoped to do two seasons here, but unfortunately we didn't have enough time.

because of the grant funding that to be.

Thank you.

tomorrow. And so we're not. Right, I'm sorry, we have an update. So unfortunately we couldn't do two seasons, there just wasn't two seasons. Typically we do two seasons, but you're right, I mean we don't have a whole lot of seasonality here in California, but in your case the turrets would make a difference in that. What we did is we just looked at whole years of waste and in terms of declining proportion that was commercial versus residential, we just looked at the total amount of waste
00:44:18.97 Joanne Goldschmidt Right, I'm sorry, we have another day.

Thank you.
00:44:23.87 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
00:44:23.89 Unknown Okay.
00:44:24.36 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
00:44:24.39 Unknown Thank you.
00:44:26.70 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
00:44:26.82 Thomas Theodores Yeah.
00:44:26.94 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
00:44:26.96 Thomas Theodores Thank you.
00:44:27.06 Joanne Goldschmidt Yeah.
00:44:32.27 Joanne Goldschmidt Right.
00:44:42.26 Vicki Nichols Right.
00:44:42.60 Unknown Thank you.
00:44:53.30 Michelle Leonard and 60% of the people
00:44:55.95 Thomas Theodores Right. And it's sort of out maybe between, you might know off the top of your head, or between the two of you, but it's sort of a byproduct of this study. So if you take these numbers of the existing waste stream that's going to the landfill, and then you add the tonnages that are going to greenways and recycling already, where do we fall out tonnage-wise in the 80-20 You know, are we at our, how close to? In total tonnage. It's not just the 3,300 tons a year of landfill, but of the total tonnage. Where are we on the zero waste scale, 80-20, you know, where are we meeting our targets?
00:45:33.48 Andrew Davidson our targets. For Zero Wake, we have some rough ideas. We're about 60% diversion right now. OK. With the goal of 2012, the goal was 80%, so not too far off.
00:45:45.64 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
00:45:45.66 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) Thank you.
00:45:45.71 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
00:45:45.73 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) Thank you.
00:45:45.74 Joanne Goldschmidt Right.
00:45:48.04 Andrew Davidson I'll just point out that I read an article recently in a trade magazine commenting on San Francisco's diversion rate there up around.
00:45:56.53 Thomas Theodores Watch out because who's in the audience? That's what I read. He can slide me down.
00:45:58.11 Andrew Davidson who's in the audience. That's what I read. You can slide me down. It's fine. Diversion rate of about 80%. Right. But of the remaining 20%, approximately 50% is recoverable. So even in their aggressive stance, there's still that amount that it's just not getting
00:46:02.76 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
00:46:10.59 Unknown So, dance.
00:46:13.76 Ray Withy it.
00:46:13.96 Unknown Thank you.
00:46:16.27 Andrew Davidson Recovered. But 80%.
00:46:21.18 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
00:46:21.20 Andrew Davidson .
00:46:21.45 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
00:46:21.49 Andrew Davidson Thank you.
00:46:21.55 Unknown (Councilmember) Thank you.

Is there a cost differential to the user, for example, in the Mollie Stones, if they move over to recycling the compostables, does it cost more or less the same?
00:46:34.84 Greg (from BCRS) They would probably receive real life and say yes. And so, but we didn't have the opportunity to present to them six months ago a impressive composting program like they have in some of their other stores, but they are now. So they'll probably, it'll probably be a switch of service where their compactors they have now would probably have to turn it into a compostable compactor versus a garbage compactor, and then it will change their service.
00:46:37.45 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
00:46:37.55 Unknown (Councilmember) All right.
00:46:37.80 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
00:47:04.23 Unknown (Councilmember) But the basic, and I just use them as an example because they were a stark example, but most commercial entities, if they switched over and they started moving to more compostables or recyclables, it would not increase their costs or
00:47:15.55 Greg (from BCRS) No, it would not increase the cost. That's the goal here. There's definitely going to be not any increase, and the goal is for them to realize the savings at some point.
00:47:30.27 Unknown Are you ready?
00:47:33.51 Ray Withy I don't, I had the fortune, good fortune of listening to this presentation at the Sustainability Commission. All my questions answered there, so thank you for the presentation again.
00:47:39.06 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Yeah.
00:47:39.28 Joanne Goldschmidt Cool.
00:47:39.97 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) my questions answered there.
00:47:44.41 Ray Withy So I guess...
00:47:44.68 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Mr. Mayor, I hope you're here.
00:47:45.34 Unknown Bye.
00:47:45.39 Ray Withy Bye.
00:47:45.42 Thomas Theodores Thank you.
00:47:45.47 Unknown Thank you.
00:47:45.54 Thomas Theodores you
00:47:45.78 Unknown Oh, go ahead.
00:47:46.82 Thomas Theodores Thank you.
00:47:49.44 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) I'm sorry.
00:47:49.47 Ray Withy I am sorry.

I'll go to here.
00:47:51.53 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) I don't have a problem with.
00:47:51.62 Ray Withy I don't have a It's a question.
00:47:54.13 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Okay. So my question has to do with an earlier question regarding how Sausalito compares to other communities. And I was just curious about the definition that we heard earlier, that single family is not actually single family, it's one to four units per parcel.

And so my question is, if I were to compare Sausalito and perhaps, you know, SCS studies of other towns to Sausalito study, is the same definition used for single family?
00:48:36.05 Michelle Leonard Yes, that's very typical and it may be, you know, in some communities it may be one to five units or one to three, but in our little world of garbage, We...

Single-family versus multifamily is typically classified by the type of vehicle and the type of bin that's used at that. So single-family is typically either an automated cart like you have here or individual 40-gallon containers for various materials. Whereas the multifamily, and that's served by a particular type of truck. And then whereas the multifamily are those that are served by a large dumpster with a different type of truck. Oh, I see. So that is throughout not only California but across the nation. When we talk about single family, you're always looking at at least two, three, or four years.
00:49:17.61 Barbara Geisler Oh, I see.
00:49:27.35 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) I see, so it's the type of receptacle that they use. Okay, and then you said too that the scope of what single family could change from study to study. So it could be one to five units, you said, or?
00:49:31.36 Michelle Leonard to close.
00:49:46.62 Michelle Leonard It really depends on, usually on your land use classifications, so what your single family zoning allows. But in these types of studies, it really has more to do with the type of truck that picks it up, which usually goes with what the zoning is.
00:50:03.59 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Mm-hmm.
00:50:07.21 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Okay, thank you. Thank you.
00:50:10.13 Ray Withy I did have a question after all.

Could I just clarify, I thought you said...

that there was essentially no difference in the waste stream from the single family compared to the multifamily. Was that true?
00:50:27.15 Michelle Leonard They're very similar, though we did find more food waste in the multi-family than the single family. I think about 4% or 5% more, as well as some of the glass, I think, was a little bit higher also.
00:50:44.87 Thomas Theodores Any other questions?

uh just my only question was what you know your recommendations are somewhat broad is there like some low-hanging fruit that sort of leaps out at you in terms of easy to act upon items like you know we've some of the things that the sustainability commission and the city council have talked about are you know construction debris ordinance which we don't have right now or changing a lot of swapping out a lot of the public receptacles into dual containers versus even the ones we have now with the pyramids that kind of drop through into the regular waste stream anyway because they're broken half the time so are there any sort of low hanging fruit that sort of leaped out at you
00:50:47.28 Michelle Leonard I'm only...
00:51:25.95 Michelle Leonard There's just...

you is a big portion of the waste stream, both for the residential and commercial. So trying to get more people in your residential to participate in that by putting their food waste in the right container. And the commercial getting access to commercial food waste programs. And then on the commercial side, getting more businesses to sign up for recycling. I mean, recycling is mandated now for commercial businesses, but in the state of California, any business that generates more than four cubic yards, which is a large dumpster a week, has to have recycling. So that's a pretty big stick to carry now, and it's made it a little a little bit easier at least to get companies to participate. So getting that cardboard and paper and those materials out of the commercial waste. But I think a lot of it is more education and outreach. It's getting your community to be aware that you are part of the zero waste plan here in Marin County and what that means and implementing programs to reach zero waste, whether it's at City Hall or your public events, your library, everywhere. But making it very visible, making it very convenient and recycling becoming the norm as opposed to it being a special thing.
00:52:06.87 Unknown So.
00:52:53.49 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
00:52:59.36 Ray Withy Thank you.
00:52:59.38 Unknown OKAY.
00:53:00.38 Ray Withy Thank you. At this time, are you any questions from the public on this? I knew you were going to get up.
00:53:08.93 Joanne Goldschmidt .
00:53:10.33 Ray Withy Thank you.
00:53:18.79 Robert Haley Good evening. I'm Robert Haley, a resident of Sausalito. And you might have heard that I'm the zero waste manager for San Francisco.

Um, First, I want to thank the city and Bay Cities and SCS for a good report. It's a very good study.

And I think it has a lot of very important information. It's really going to be the basis for planning for the next 10 or 20 years towards zero waste.
00:53:51.98 Robert Haley I think the average person would be a little taken aback that 68% is still recoverable in the trash. But to be honest, that's pretty typical in the Bay Area. Sausalito is doing well in recycling relative to other Bay Area communities. You have a ways to go on composting, but you have a relatively new food scrap composting program. And I think it's off to a really good start and a lot more can be done with that program.
00:54:20.70 Robert Haley So tonight I'd just like to urge the council to accept the report and to encourage the Sustainability Commission to review it and work with you on recommendations. But I do want to state that it's going to take more than just education. I think education is really important. I think public recycling receptacles are important. But look at how many years you've been educating about recycling and still 23% is in the trash, or 20% of your trash is still recyclable. And think how long it's going to take for food scraps with just education. So I'd urge recommendations to go further than just education. And I think you really have to change the paradigm. You know, when you're having people bring their recyclables, compostables to the street, and the stuff for the landfill is getting picked up in their backyard, that's not really a level playing field that's encouraging recycling and composting. In fact, the people who don't bring it to the curb are most likely to not recycle and compost very well.

So I think that really has to be addressed as politically unpopular as it may be. And I would urge that Sausalito look across the bridge and at the state and other communities who are going mandatory recycling and composting. It's a very common trend, and I think it's time in this day and age to say everyone needs to recycle, everyone needs to compost. It's part of living in Sausalito. So thank you.
00:55:48.32 Ray Withy Thank you. Any other public comment or questions? Jean?
00:56:00.08 Jan Fidler Jan Fidler at 501 Olima. I didn't hear the whole discussion, but was cigarette smoking mentioned amongst this discussion?

If you notice that there's cigarette receptacles which were provided by Bay Refuge up above. Cut down a lot of cigarette smoke.

and also the bus. And so I was thinking, if you're thinking of really recycling, you have to think about that too, and place some of those receptacles around town.
00:56:32.18 Ray Withy Thank you.

Thank you, John.

Any other public comment?

Vicki.
00:56:42.05 Vicki Nichols I just wanted to say, Vicki Nichols, that the report was great, and I agree with the sustainability committee that not to be too tough, but I think we have to be more emphatic about this. I live in a seven unit building.

We still have resistance about recycling food And I have nightly raccoons that come through our backyard. No one's ever gotten in the bins. You know, they're safe.

I think the Bay Cities did, I think, an event recently where you offered compost.

So maybe if they do that, one or two more times where they can show people here, you know, here's your compost, here it is in action. It might be encouraging.

And I have a colleague that works at the EPA, she just retired and how they addressed it was they took away all trash cans. All they had was like, compostable, metal, recyclable, and they just pretty much had to recycle everything because there was no trash cans.
00:57:37.18 Ray Withy Thank you.
00:57:37.45 Vicki Nichols And they got the message pretty good.
00:57:38.58 Greg (from BCRS) Thank you.
00:57:38.73 Vicki Nichols Thank you.
00:57:38.83 Greg (from BCRS) Thank you.
00:57:38.85 Vicki Nichols Thank you.
00:57:39.64 Ray Withy Thank you, Vicki. Any other public comment?
00:57:42.12 Greg (from BCRS) I'll just take a chance to make a plug. June 15th, you can come and get your compost back down at MLK. We'll be giving another load away and we'll supply glass. Just bring your container and get what you want.
00:57:52.94 Joanne Goldschmidt you
00:57:53.02 Ray Withy Thank you, Gabe.
00:57:53.07 Greg (from BCRS) Thank you.
00:57:53.09 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
00:57:53.12 Greg (from BCRS) Thank you.
00:57:53.14 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
00:57:53.24 Greg (from BCRS) Thank you.
00:57:54.97 Ray Withy Any other public comment? I just bring public questions also. Bring it up here for comment. Any comments?

The only thing I'd like to say is thank you very much for a good presentation. And Andy, thank you. And Greg, you've always done a great job, and you continue to. Just also keep in mind, even though you didn't get into the summertime, March of this year was actually a very dry time for us. The weather was nice, so we really did get a little taste of what tourists do in our community. It wasn't like it was cold and rainy. So you did get a reasonable sample. So thank you very much. Any other comments?
00:58:40.00 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Uh, yes, I do.

Thank you.

So I am, again, I want to thank you for this study. It's very helpful. I was especially appreciative to see the community outreach segment because I think that when we rolled out the composting, especially with the mandated fee hikes, I think that that was something that was frankly lacking. I think we could have done a better job of that. And I certainly would have liked to see that. And I know the sustainability committee, it's my understanding, wanted to do that outreach as well.

So I would like to see the council in accepting this report also include direction to ensure that the sustainability committee is free to fully engage the public so that we have transparency on the process when the paradigm is being changed so that people know that that's happening and can participate in that. Sausalitans are very sensitive to the environment. They want to participate and they want to help.

I mentioned earlier about two and a half years ago I spent $200 on composting, two composting bins and worm farms, and they didn't like me, they escaped.

So I was doing something wrong, but yeah. So you wanted your way out of it.
01:00:06.93 Ray Withy so you wanted your way out of it.
01:00:09.73 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) you But in full disclosure, I get backyard service, you know, but I am very motivated to, and I've said this before, and I've heard from residents as well, if we received a price for, you know, being able to have pickup of recyclables, you know, in our backyards, we would pay more for that. It's a matter of finding out what that price would be. And I, and let's see, what else did I want to say? Yeah, so I do thank you very much for this study. I think it is very important. I think it empowers our sustainability committee further.

We have a great group and I know they're going to really take this and run with this. And I just want to encourage them to do public outreach and engage residents in whatever their recommendations, informing those recommendations moving forward. That to me is absolutely imperative.
01:01:17.35 Unknown Thank you.
01:01:17.36 Ray Withy Any other comments?

you
01:01:19.49 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) you
01:01:20.01 Ray Withy Yeah, I'd just like to...

Thank you all. This was a great report. I thought I knew a lot about this subject, but I actually didn't. But I, you know, I'm reading the report, I now know a lot more. It was, I think many residents would be really, really surprised to realize that if our existing programs were implemented 100% throughout the whole city. I mean, of course, that's somewhat unrealistic. But just our existing programs.

it would reduce down to 30 to 40% the amount of material that went into the landfill. I mean, and that is a huge number, and so, we do need to find more policies and more encouragement to actually just implement the program we've got.

The other thing I'd like to do is just thank the Sustainability Commission and Greg from BCRS. I mean, you guys do a great job, and we are very pleased and happy about that, so thank you.
01:02:33.17 Jonathon Goldman Okay.
01:02:34.75 Thomas Theodores Thank you.
01:02:34.82 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
01:02:34.84 Thomas Theodores Thank you.
01:02:34.95 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
01:02:35.02 Thomas Theodores Thank you.
01:02:35.04 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
01:02:35.07 Thomas Theodores So as Greg knows, it's not so much. There are a lot of challenges with businesses and with large apartment complexes participating, both within the complexes themselves, how they've set up their own trash. And so that's something we're going to have to step in and help you guys with, because that's been the case for 13 years when I was on the Wasting Recycling Commission. It's just a tougher nut to crack. And I can say even in San Francisco, where in my office you have five bins, the janitor still dumps it all in one. So I'll give you your address later on.
01:03:12.69 Unknown I'll give you your address later on.
01:03:16.38 Thomas Theodores So, uh-oh, my lease is going to be terminated tomorrow. You really trashed that. Yeah, so, and I think that's also a problem in any office building, is what the janitor does at the end of the day with all this stuff. So it's another, making his life, his or her life, easier on the way out is part of the whole challenge on the commercial side. I will say that, you know, things have, this is what we said the last time this topic came up for a vote in terms of both funding the study and then before
01:03:20.11 Unknown tomorrow.

I'm sorry.

Thank you.

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The President. The President.
01:03:24.82 Unknown So.
01:03:25.02 Joanne Goldschmidt I know.
01:03:25.41 Unknown Thank you.
01:03:50.05 Thomas Theodores implementing the food recycling, but the world's changed, and you can't stick to the old ways of doing things. Curbside recycling, is the way it happens around the community. It's a more efficient way for these guys to do their job.

And what it should encourage is actually people having less trash volume and weight to carry anywhere, right? So I know we still get two cans, but we only have one can of waste because all the rest of it goes in everything else. And that's with a multi-unit building and with a bunch of kids running around. So the world's changed, and we need to, you know, if you make it easy for someone to throw something away, they're going to do it. And we have to get away from that and make it an even playing field between all types of waste disposal and encourage people to not go to the landfill with stuff.

act on that. And I think the vote of this council before, which wasn't unanimous I think when you were In terms of food waste recycling, we've got to keep moving with these programs and not worry about inconveniencing people beyond unless there's some physical problem where we have to help people out. This is the way of the world and we have to change.

Thank you.

Okay.
01:05:01.40 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Mr. Imer, I'd like to...
01:05:01.41 Thomas Theodores Mr.
01:05:03.44 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Thank you.

Go ahead.
01:05:03.74 Thomas Theodores Bye.
01:05:04.37 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Comment? Yeah, so, and I think you remember that I was the one who voted against it. I believe, well, anyway, I remember that I voted against it. I voted against it because I felt strongly that before we mandated a price increase on composting that we needed to engage the residents. We needed more outreach. People really didn't know.

I'm sure you heard this feedback. They didn't realize. It's my understanding the sustainability committee wanted to do that outreach and I really would support that and I know I'm hopeful that this council would support it as well, you know, moving forward.

Um, And one comment I had in the on page four, It would be helpful perhaps for clarity because I may have missed it, but I didn't see anywhere in this document where it actually clarified that single-family residential was actually one to four units. So if you could add that perhaps to the definition on page four as well as to the definition of multifamily residential that that is. You do say apartment buildings and other multi-tenant properties but just to be make it clear to anyone reading this that you're referring to five units or higher.

Thank you.
01:06:26.77 Ray Withy Any other comments?

Okay, at this time here, can I get a recommended motion, please?
01:06:33.64 Ray Withy So I move to accept the study.

and provide direction to the Sustainability Commission to review and pursue the recommendations of the study.

with the goal of diverting recyclable and compostable materials from the waste stream and continue striving towards JPA's 2025. Zero. Whoops. Whoops.

Of course, my iPad decides to...

towards JPA's 2025 zero waste goal.
01:07:05.06 Unknown Thank you.

No second.
01:07:07.82 Ray Withy Okay.
01:07:08.06 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) I'd like to make an amendment.
01:07:08.50 Unknown Thank you.
01:07:10.46 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Thank you.
01:07:10.52 Unknown Thank you.
01:07:10.54 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Thank you.
01:07:10.59 Unknown Second.
01:07:11.42 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Thank you.

Okay, I think I'll have support on this, is that we, my amendment would be to also encourage that there be a public outreach, portion or some integrated public outreach strategy prior to implementation of these solutions.
01:07:40.86 Thomas Theodores Yeah, I don't think we're going to... I know that these people are going to want... This is part of their mandate, and what they do as a commission on a... Every time they meet, so I don't think we need to dictate to them how to get the word out. I think they can do it themselves. Okay.
01:07:54.58 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Okay.

Mr. Mayor, if I could respond. So I'm fine with going with that. I guess my intent was just to empower the committee, if I may finish, to go ahead and do that outreach. Because it was my understanding they wanted to do it last time and were coached not to. And that's...
01:07:56.05 Thomas Theodores Mr.
01:08:14.02 Unknown I don't think that's true, so...
01:08:16.59 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Well, that's what I heard by two sources.
01:08:16.66 Unknown Well, that's what I heard.

Thank you.

Thank you.
01:08:17.97 Ray Withy Well... By two sources, so... Well, hearsay is not permitted in court. Anyway...
01:08:24.00 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Yeah.
01:08:24.11 Unknown THE FAMILY.
01:08:26.66 Ray Withy All right.

Thank you.

It was, are you withdrawing that amendment when we're going to the first?

the motion.
01:08:32.35 Unknown Actually, I'll keep my amendment.
01:08:32.38 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Thank you.

Thank you.
01:08:34.76 Ray Withy So we vote on that amendment.
01:08:36.28 Ray Withy I can accept that amendment. I don't see that it's...

particularly needed, but I do not see it does any harm.
01:08:44.16 Unknown No, wait a minute.

I don't know.
01:08:45.97 Ray Withy you
01:08:46.17 Unknown Thank you.
01:08:46.48 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) So if you accept the amendment, do we just vote on the motion with the amendment?
01:08:47.79 Unknown Thank you.
01:08:47.84 Ray Withy Thank you.
01:08:47.91 Unknown Do we just vote?
01:08:48.75 Mary Wagner Thank you.
01:08:48.90 Unknown I'm not.

Thank you.
01:08:49.60 Ray Withy Mary.
01:08:49.97 Mary Wagner Amen.
01:08:50.44 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Alright.
01:08:50.88 Mary Wagner If the maker of the motion accepts the amendment and the maker of the second accepts the amendment, then that's the motion you're voting on.

The maker of the motion accepted the amendment, and Council Member Theodora seconded the motion, so he needs to say whether he accepts it or not.
01:09:01.97 Unknown (Councilmember) to I second it before the amendment, but I'll accept the amendment as well.
01:09:07.87 Mary Wagner That was the question, yeah. That's the motion that is before you is Councilmember Withy's motion with Councilmember Pfeiffer's proposed amendment.
01:09:18.39 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Okay, thank you.
01:09:20.33 Ray Withy Okay, all in favor?
01:09:22.01 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Bye.
01:09:22.03 Ray Withy Aye. Opposed?

Okay, thank you very, very much for coming, and good presentation. And once again, Greg, thank you.

Okay.

Moving on to our next item, and that would
01:09:38.99 Thomas Theodores I gotta say thanks for getting your hands dirty. Oh, that's a Herb comment, isn't it?
01:09:42.89 Unknown It is.
01:09:43.26 Ray Withy you
01:09:43.43 Unknown And I'll say, actually, I heard that from four people. Four people, not two.
01:09:43.56 Ray Withy Bye.
01:09:43.98 Joanne Goldschmidt And I'll say, actually,
01:09:45.99 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) I'm sorry.
01:09:50.33 Ray Withy Well, we're just giving you the white glove treatment. That's what we're doing.
01:09:53.98 Unknown Thank you.
01:09:56.20 Ray Withy All right, next item is the continued budget discussion review of capital improvement projects, and that would be Charlie Francis. Thank you. Sustainability Committee also.
01:10:09.97 Joanne Goldschmidt you Thank you.
01:10:14.85 Unknown Thank you.

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01:10:19.46 Unknown No, eh?
01:10:21.24 Unknown So, okay.
01:10:26.75 Jeffrey Chase Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of the City Council.

Tonight's budget agenda item is to continue the discussion on the fiscal year 2013-14 draft budget. A budget that invests in the quality of Sausalito's future. We're going to pay particular, oh, it's a budget that is building on the basics.
01:10:52.33 Jeffrey Chase As we'll see at the end of the presentation, the world will still be spinning around the sun. Is that an asteroid? Go ahead. We'll be achieving in major... This budget focuses on fiscal sustainability and resiliency. While we're still increasing effectiveness and efficiency of the organization, you'll see considerable investment and improvement in infrastructure, all for the good purpose of balancing the retention of Sosilito's unique character against the inevitability of change.
01:10:58.40 Ray Withy Is that an asteroid? Go ahead.

Yeah.
01:11:01.15 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
01:11:12.01 Unknown So see.
01:11:24.80 Jeffrey Chase The agenda item is a little bit different than other agenda items. I'll start a summary. We'll go through the linkages to the priority calendar, cover the capital improvement programs, but I encourage dialogue. When we're through, I'll do an overview of the operating budget in case there's any questions on level of service, and then we'll open it up for general questions and directions.

Does that sound like a good plan?
01:11:50.38 Ray Withy fine.

Thank you.
01:11:50.89 Jeffrey Chase Thank you.

So we'll start off with the citywide summary. Before the meeting, we passed out a revised staff report, and it had several different changes in the staff report, one of them being a couple changes that came at the last minute today in our expenditures. So in your previous staff report, we showed a general fund surplus of $17,000. The changes were positive. Now we're showing a general fund surplus of $30,000. Yes, we're moving in the right direction. And there's a couple other line item changes. But there was no significant changes, but I did want to get this revised staff report out to you. Just in case you had questions, we can refer back to the new one.

So overall, the budget still contemplates spending Well, it's.

It's $24,743 net expenditures over the fiscal year. $12,293 out of the general fund, which is our primary fund for providing services. $23 million, I'm sorry, yes. $12 million and $24 million.
01:13:02.55 Unknown I have to sit down some notices.
01:13:04.36 Jeffrey Chase Yeah.

Thank you.

It provides for all the legal obligations for debt service for the city as well as transferring money from our special revenue funds into our capital project funds. And then finally continues the level of service in our enterprise funds where we're continuing to invest in infrastructure for the sewer fund, the old city hall providing resources back to city hall or city general fund. The MLK property will have all of its debt to the school district paid off this fiscal year and the parking funds continuing generating enough revenues to transfer to the city, $1.185 million every year.

Any question on the overall citywide summary at this point? So we'll move into the linkages to the priority calendar. After your last meeting where you adopted your priority calendar, what we typically do then is take all the items above the line and show where the items above the line are budgeted within either the operating or the capital budget and who's the project lead and they're in the priority order that the council adopted the priority calendar. So specifically you'll see that for the EPA order ongoing within the sewer fund budget we have $2,073,000 budgeted for a capital project and $25,000 in repairs for sewer lateral.

For financial planning which included the five-year plan and strategies to stabilize revenues, project 4150 in the capital project appropriates $10,000 for that activity. The bicycle congestion and mitigation safety plan, project 4180 which is the South City, It's the...

South City Limits, the Richardson bike grant that we have is appropriate. It's $125,000 for that. And as you go down the list, you'll see where everyone has either appropriated some money or designated staff time only. Different than your staff report. In your staff report, I had two items that did not have an appropriation in the fiscal year 14 budget. But after consultation with the public works director today, I got a better understanding of the activities in those two areas that's different than what was in your staff report. And that was primarily the south city limits to ferry landing, pedestrian and bike improvements. That's the same project, the 4180 for the $125,000 is. And then in the Heathway street sewer and flooding improvements, Public Works Director Jonathan Goldman explained to me the staff time that's going to be invested in next year to try to resolve some of those issues there. So at this point, if there's any particular questions on the priority calendar budget, we're happy to answer that.

Thanks, Jonathan.

Yeah.
01:16:25.49 Thomas Theodores So I would ask that for, we don't have numbers on these, so you're gonna have to bear with me.

Yeah.

Central Waterfront Master Plan, which is sort of, I think when the time comes to decide which one of those are going to do, this is towards the end, I think it's... It's right here on the... Yeah. That you tag that with the same designation as the Dunphy Park Improvement Plan, just with the 4174, and then staff can present which one it wants to come forward, you know, what combination thereof, and then we can debate it here. So if we could tag that with that, I think that would be useful just to, because they're basically the same area of the city. And then again.
01:16:43.51 Jeffrey Chase It's right here on the website.
01:17:05.74 Jeffrey Chase So what you're asking is in the document itself to tag that 41, to link those two projects?
01:17:12.07 Thomas Theodores Yeah, and they both should be both with Mike and Jonathan both because it's both, you know, in their, you know, you have a, in my mind, those two are linked. And we can decide later which is which and what to do. We don't have to do that right now. And the only other one I had a question for, and I know we don't have funding for it allocated in the budget, is the disaster evacuation routes, maps, facilitating community disaster preparedness drill.
01:17:16.51 Jeffrey Chase Okay.
01:17:42.95 Thomas Theodores Since we just found $20,000, this one I think is kind of outside what we've done so far of what Bill Frost has done so far, which is even though he has his outreach day, which is much more sort of getting all the ducks in a row kind of thing versus trying to organize a community-wide thing, which is takes either, you know, herb who loves to do that kind of thing, or someone who has that kind of time, or it takes getting a professional to, get us organized, I'm wondering if that's something we can revisit at some point so it's not just the chief who's going to... Oh, she showed up! Dang! So it doesn't just fall on her lap to do something without the resources to actually do it. See, I'm sticking up for you, by the way. He meant laptop.
01:18:27.82 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) Amen.
01:18:29.98 Thomas Theodores So that's, I don't know.

Thank you.

what to do with that in this context. But it may be something we can revisit
01:18:39.66 Adam Politzer Yeah, I think it's in past practice for any item that is not designated with funds through the budget process is to leave that until staff comes forward with the actual program. Because in some cases, and we've been looking at doing an evacuation drill, but it takes a lot of time to organize it and coordinate it. And unlike what I think some folks think is that the
01:19:03.37 Unknown or not.
01:19:07.85 Adam Politzer whistle will go off and everyone will exit their houses and show up at Dunphy Park. It's actually done neighborhood by neighborhood in potentially months, different times of the year per neighborhood. And it may just be one street depending on the length of the street. So I think we now know that it's a priority and I think that the Chief and Sergeant Frost and the Captain and Lieutenant will get together and come back with a plan.
01:19:08.88 Unknown everyone.

houses.

I'm not sure.
01:19:22.53 Unknown Perfect.
01:19:39.65 Adam Politzer I think what the chief demonstrated in the in the process.

was what the cost associated, an estimated cost of what this could take. So let us work and then come back. I think I'm not designating the money right now because we don't know. It's still a slim margin there.
01:19:58.13 Thomas Theodores Right. Well, maybe we can, and what sometimes the city's done is put this as a part of the mid-year budget review to revisit this, whether there's money to, depending on when the staff comes forward anyway, but if it's not before the mid-year budget review, maybe we can do that.
01:19:58.52 Adam Politzer Thank you.

you
01:20:14.47 Jeffrey Chase Thank you. Public Works Director Goldman just pointed out to me that in the current year capital improvement budget there is a line item for doing the maps. So that part will be done and it hasn't been encumbered yet but we'll get it done at the end of the year. Okay, great. Thanks, Keith.
01:20:23.12 Unknown Thank you.
01:20:23.16 Ray Withy help.
01:20:30.18 Ray Withy Thank you.
01:20:30.62 Jonathon Goldman and doesn't matter.
01:20:30.97 Ray Withy Thank you.
01:20:31.46 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So just for the record, I disagree with Lumping-Dumphy Park number 4174 with the Central Waterfront Plan. And what I would recommend, because that's been debated before, and they're kept separate for a reason. And I would recommend that city staff, perhaps consult with Friends of Dunphy Park before you make that decision to kind of get clarity on their insights on that as well. So my question has to do with financial planning and the five-year plan. So, and thank you, Charlie, for mapping the priorities to this. This is great that you've, you know, kind of listed this to and mapped it. I think that's wonderful. So as you know, CalPERS has raised employer contributions by 50% starting in 2015 and, You know, that could, from one account, it's looking at roughly 115,000 a year over five years. That was one, you know, estimate. In addition, CalPERS themselves, their actuaries are concerned that they may have underestimated their own actuarial analyses because people are living longer, etc.

regarding, and I'm not even talking about the 7.5% assumptions they're doing on investment returns.

you Add to that the fact that we have for the fire and police building, our Series B bonds that will be kicking in for payment in 2026.

and the increase, the fact that that's basically a no-neg situation where, I mean, it's going to be you know, a million point four or something.

Um, And so looking at those costs that we know are coming, it seems to me that if we have extra money now that we've discovered from 17 to 30,000.

Shouldn't we, or are there already that I'm not seeing provisions that we're taking now to start setting money aside for the CalPERS increases as well as the Series B bonds.
01:22:54.95 Jeffrey Chase Well, we continually run five-year models out. We do it now. And this extra money for the financial planning, we just brought in all the rest of the city funds before we just had the general fund. And I'm calibrating that data right now. So we will have a financial model that captures all the expenses and all the revenues of the city. And we'll be putting those assumptions into the model and then starting over the next year to identify strategies to meet the challenges that some of which you mentioned. As for the general obligation bonds, the general obligation bonds are paid for through an extra property tax that goes on the property tax bill, and it's a zero sum to the city.
01:23:38.59 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Thank you.

So that was another of my follow-up question then. So what you're saying is this current budget does not set aside money. We don't have right now a strategy set aside for setting money aside. We have a strategy.
01:23:51.52 Jeffrey Chase Setting money aside. We have a strategy in place to continue to be solvent over the next five years.
01:23:57.20 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Yes, but specifically targeting the Series B obligations as well as the CalPERS increases. I'm sorry. CalPERS increases, yes. Uh-huh. So, because whenever I hear that we have extra money, I want to set it aside for those payments.
01:24:01.56 Jeffrey Chase as well as the CalPERS increase
01:24:04.56 Mary Wagner is.
01:24:05.03 Jeffrey Chase I'm sorry.
01:24:05.49 Joanne Goldschmidt The numbers increase is.
01:24:06.25 Jeffrey Chase Yes.
01:24:06.52 Joanne Goldschmidt Bye.
01:24:13.64 Jeffrey Chase We do have reserves set aside and strategies for revenues and expense control in order to meet the challenges of the community.
01:24:21.72 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) So with regards to the pension obligation bonds you mentioned, that was...
01:24:26.73 Jeffrey Chase Did not mention pension application funds.
01:24:27.93 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Oh.

Okay, well then my question is about the pension obligation, the obligation bonds that a prior city council said that were authorized in 2007, but they never issued them.

Right.

And I guess my question is, would that go to a ballot vote before...

we would, any council could take any.
01:24:55.37 Jeffrey Chase Any counsel could take me. Is that part of our strategy to issue those pension obligation funds?

If we did, it would go to the Council for authorization. I'm not sure of the requirement of whether it be a ballot vote or not.
01:25:01.44 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) But it,
01:25:09.78 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Oh, really? So it wouldn't necessarily be a ballot vote?
01:25:12.89 Jeffrey Chase Thank you.
01:25:14.34 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) I understand it would come to the Council, but okay, thank you.
01:25:16.94 Jeffrey Chase But the way the pension obligation bond would work, if we would do it, and we're not recommending it, we haven't recommended it since I've been here, and, you know, it's... Those pension obligation bonds were only there to pay off the side funds. Now, and it would have been zero sum. You switch out the annual cost of the debt service we're paying on the CalPERS side funds for a lower debt service today. So there's no extra cost to the citizens. But we've paid off the miscellaneous side fund. We're going to be paying off this week the fire side fund. So the only side fund left to be paid off is the police side fund. And it would not be – you don't get the required net present value from issuing pension obligation bonds to pay that off. So it's not a strategy we're considering.
01:25:25.69 Unknown Mm-hmm.
01:25:42.37 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) I understand.
01:25:53.03 Joanne Goldschmidt Mm-hmm.
01:26:06.78 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Okay, good. And you said that in this budget there are There are provisions to address the extra costs of the CalPERS increase in employee contributions by 50%.
01:26:24.15 Jeffrey Chase by 50 percent? No, I didn't say it was in this budget, Council Member Pfeiffer. I said this budget represents all the costs from KELPRS that are here today and we're balanced through fiscal year 14.
01:26:27.66 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Okay.
01:26:36.53 Jeffrey Chase What I did say is that we have a five-year plan.

And in that five-year plan, we've assumed revenue growth, we've assumed pension fund growth, and we're identifying strategies to meet those challenges. And strategies that we're identifying are consistent with the recommendation that we have in this budget today.
01:26:58.20 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Okay, I have further questions, but it might be something that after the council session. Yeah, thank you.
01:27:01.04 Adam Politzer Yeah.
01:27:01.16 Jeffrey Chase that after the council sent out
01:27:03.10 Adam Politzer Thank you.
01:27:09.97 Unknown Thank you.
01:27:10.67 Jeffrey Chase Thank you.
01:27:10.79 Unknown Thank you.
01:27:10.89 Jeffrey Chase So anyway, are there any more specific questions on the priority calendar items?
01:27:10.93 Unknown (Councilmember) So anyway, so that's – are there any more – Well, I do have just a couple of the public works directed, please.

Just a few clarifications, just for my benefit.

The, 4180.

And that's in a couple of places, and it addresses the bicycle congestion.

It was my...

Did I hear you say that that was from a grant? And also, what would that grant be for? Could you clarify that for me?
01:27:35.19 Jonathon Goldman and also, Yeah, I actually have a separate PowerPoint that I prepared. Debbie, if you're willing to switch, I can run through a couple. I selected a few projects based on questions that I understood came up in the last few days. So there's not a whole bunch of information there. Sorry.

Have it in the...
01:28:02.21 Unknown Dumpster.
01:28:02.82 Jonathon Goldman I recycled it from a previous presentation.
01:28:02.95 Unknown I recycled it.
01:28:06.02 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) I'm recycled it.
01:28:11.32 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) A compost.
01:28:14.33 Jonathon Goldman DPW capital.
01:28:20.00 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
01:28:20.05 Unknown Now I know why you're going to serve as public space.
01:28:20.05 Ray Withy Now I know why you're going to serve as pleasant taste. Charlie, good job.
01:28:23.35 Joanne Goldschmidt Charlie.
01:28:23.98 Unknown Yeah.
01:28:24.05 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) Good job.
01:28:25.58 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
01:28:25.65 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) Thank you.
01:28:25.84 Ray Withy It is puzzling.
01:28:26.14 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
01:28:26.32 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
01:28:26.53 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) Thank you.
01:28:26.54 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
01:28:26.78 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) Thank you.
01:28:27.03 Joanne Goldschmidt It is possible.
01:28:27.98 Jeffrey Chase Thank you.
01:28:28.03 Joanne Goldschmidt Okay.
01:28:28.16 Jonathon Goldman This theme was on sale.

Thank you.

Thank you.
01:28:33.88 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
01:28:34.88 Jonathon Goldman Let's see. You asked about the I'm interested in all of that.
01:28:40.97 Unknown (Councilmember) So,
01:28:41.19 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
01:28:41.21 Unknown (Councilmember) Thank you.
01:28:41.31 Jonathon Goldman THE END OF THE END OF THE
01:28:41.39 Unknown (Councilmember) Thank you.
01:28:41.41 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
01:28:41.43 Unknown (Councilmember) You can go through all of them if you'd like.
01:28:43.65 Jonathon Goldman All right. I'm anxious and don't want to delay the meeting because I promised myself I'd be out by midnight. The projects that I wanted to highlight were the Gate 6 Road signal modifications because that's an unusual project, entirely grant-funded, and involves three different political jurisdictions and many different political constituencies. Harbor to Gate 5 Road, which is also grant eligible and was identified as part of a planning process funded by a non-motorized transportation program a couple years ago. South St. Limits to Richardson, which is also a planning grant that we have been awarded, and as soon as we're notified that we can spend the money, we'll be retaining a consultant for. And then also just a little bit about the STAIR program, because I know that one of the questions that came up earlier was about the disaster routes map, and for those of you who know Dorothy Gibson, she and I have become best friends because she really wants that map done and I'm sworn to deliver it.
01:28:49.73 Unknown (Councilmember) you
01:28:49.78 Ray Withy Thank you.
01:28:54.71 Ray Withy Thank you.

I'm sorry.

the, The projects that I... I thought it was one.
01:28:57.44 Unknown MR.
01:28:58.00 Ray Withy Thank you.
01:29:58.58 Jonathon Goldman just provided this one relatively recent graphic to depict the area of the Gate 6 Road project. Sausalito city limits include a portion of this intersection. This is Marin County's jurisdiction on both sides of the intersection, Gate 6 Road and Waldo Point and the commercial center where all kinds of great food and bicycles take place, and then Caltrans' jurisdiction. Caltrans actually owns and operates the traffic signals at that intersection, so they have the authority over how they're timed and programmed, et cetera, et cetera. We were successful in getting a grant after a couple of those other jurisdictions failed to deliver a project. Thank you. We were successful in getting a grant after a couple of those other jurisdictions failed to deliver a project. Metropolitan Transportation Commission, I think, funded this project. And so council recently retained this team, Urban Design, and a couple of other consultants to help work through the traffic counts associated with the way this intersection operates. And just, again, very briefly, and I'm sure you're very familiar with it, vehicular peaks and turning movements and things like that are one thing, but there are, you know, three or four different dimensions of bicycle activities that happen here. There are commute dimensions, there are tourist bicycle dimensions, there are sports bicycle dimensions. It's a complex intersection and way more complex to safely operate the way it is configured and the way the traffic signals are configured. So we are at the point with this group of consultants where we have a number of alternatives identified. We're reviewing those internally.
01:31:05.32 Unknown Thank you.
01:31:18.30 Unknown here.
01:31:44.47 Jonathon Goldman Um, hope to develop consensus among the three Um...

governmental stakeholders in the process and then reach out to the community at large and find out what the non-governmental stakeholders think. The reason for that is I'm not so worried about dealing with Marin County, but Caltrans, for example, as I understand it, at one point improvements to the traffic signal controls at this intersection were installed, and because they were installed without Caltrans' permission, It's called by the county. They removed the... improvements to the traffic signal controls at this intersection were installed and because they were installed without Caltrans' permission, installed by the county, they removed them and threw them away. So we want to make sure that we have their buy-in to what we're proposing. Harbor to Gate 2, again, this was a planning exercise that, or more than an exercise, it was involved a lot of public participation and community outreach, but funded by a federal project and developed plans for improvements for bicycle and pedestrian and also vehicle operational improvements. The area that we've identified, not counting some of the other things that have gone on closer to the ferry building or ferry landing, the area that we've identified as the highest priority really works from harbor north again to this intersection up here that we were just looking at to Gate 6 Road. So we've identified some potential improvements there. We actually applied for grant funding as one of several projects that we ended up getting funded for the South City Limits to Richardson project on. We applied for grant funding for this area.
01:32:21.12 Unknown Thank you.
01:32:39.58 Unknown uh,
01:32:53.35 Unknown Thank you.

Thank you.
01:33:01.77 Unknown Thank you.
01:33:31.91 Jonathon Goldman Amen.

Thank you.

No, I'm sorry. I think we were looking here between Harbor and Coloma, where there's a bus stop and insufficient with to accommodate. The buses end up stopping in the bike lane. The bikes then have to go out into traffic to get around the bus. But at this point, we don't have funding to advance any of these projects in this segment. It's here because it's been identified. Council adopted this plan. It's been identified as a priority, and it's our task to try to develop funding with that. South City Limits to Richardson evolved from a bigger program when non-monitorized transportation pilot project was still federally enabled and money was still flowing towards Marin County. We were anticipating the possibility of a second call for projects. We did some conceptual planning that the council saw and identified segments of work all the way from South Carolina Limits to the ferry landing, but there was more controversy associated with the segments from Richardson to the ferry landing, so we've kind of de-emphasized those and emphasized the Richardson and uphill part. And there's some description here of what the project entails. Fundamentally, it entails working within the existing right-of-way and attempting to develop wider sidewalks, wider bike lanes, and then any vehicular operational safety improvements that need to happen with that. There are some utility boxes that need to be adjusted and things like that as we go into this project.
01:34:21.51 Unknown We were in.
01:35:18.94 Jonathon Goldman This is broken down, the graphics are broken down, and the description is broken down into segments. I didn't make copies of this. This information, of course, I'll make available. If any of you or anyone has questions about details, I'm happy to provide those at another time. This planning project was funded to the tune of $125,000 by the One Bay Area Grant Program. And we also have an opportunity to apply for another grant because this road segment is on the Bay Trail. It is a PCA under the requirements of that particular grant program. So I'm looking at those requirements and expect to apply for grants to try and either take the planning further or better integrate it with the work that National Park Service and the Bridge District are doing south of the city limits, but we're looking at that.
01:35:26.65 Unknown Thank you.
01:35:54.07 Unknown Thank you.
01:36:21.32 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Jonathan, can you take questions now?

Thank you.
01:36:24.78 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
01:36:24.93 Joanne Goldschmidt Amen.
01:36:25.29 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Oh, Mr. Mayor?
01:36:25.32 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
01:36:25.44 Jonathon Goldman Bye.
01:36:26.96 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) So this was the...

that I referred to earlier that came before the council without public outreach or some sort of, you know, public, I think concerted public forum beforehand. And this was the one that we voted on, but with the caveat that it was not cast in concrete. And so I just want to stress that because when it was brought up earlier about a month or two ago, I raised that and you confirmed. So I just want to make sure that the council understands that because I'm starting to see, you know, kind of implementations going up and residents are getting a little bit, they're asking questions in that area So just to clarify that This is not cast in concrete. There's going to be public outreach prior to implementing this.
01:37:33.88 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
01:37:35.56 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) hit.
01:37:36.06 Jan Johnson Thank you.
01:37:37.60 Jonathon Goldman I, no problem. I didn't hear a question there, but you, that's fine.
01:37:44.41 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Can that plan change with public input?
01:37:49.22 Jonathon Goldman Here's exactly what I think I just said. We have a grant to do a planning project, and that scope of services will definitely include public participation.
01:38:00.98 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) And public participation can change that prior slide that you just showed.
01:38:07.15 Jonathon Goldman Absolutely.
01:38:08.98 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Thank you.
01:38:09.78 Thomas Theodores I think what's important, Mr. Mayor, if I may, you know, in order to get these grants, you have to have something that tells people you're going to do a project of merit. So you have to put straw men out to say I'm doing a straw man project, say this is what I think I'm doing.

So if we In order to get the money to do these projects, we have to put concepts out there.

And yes, nothing is set in stone until the concrete is hardened. Right? So there's plenty of time. We don't need to panic. There's time to revisit all these issues when they come back around. But in order to get the money to actually solve these problems, to study them, we have to put ideas out there.
01:38:48.40 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) And thank you, Council Member Leon. And that's exactly what was told to us when this was presented, was that this was just a straw dog and that it was not cast in concrete. Because I heard something contrary to that last year, and that's why I bring it up.
01:39:05.99 Jonathon Goldman So just one more slide, I think. Yeah, please. Just wanted to point out, because this project really has taken a lot longer than it should have, which I take responsibility for. But we have a draft map that conforms to what Sergeant Frost wanted to be able to offer the community as a form of disaster preparedness, giving people who live in the community and even people who don't live in the community the opportunity in a graphic form to see where they are and figure out what routes are available to them, all the pathways, stairs, steps, things like that, as well as the routes that motor vehicles take, so that in the event of a disaster, the police and fire and other agencies coordinating, for example, an evacuation can
01:39:38.40 Unknown Thank you.
01:39:38.45 Unknown Yeah.
01:39:38.54 Unknown Thank you.
01:40:02.50 Jonathon Goldman rely on the fact that people have some idea, some information that will help them find their route. They don't have to be told exactly where to go. The expectation is that this information helps the household be prepared. So this project was authorized, it might even be two years ago now, and we are bringing the draft map to council within the next couple of meetings for approval before it goes to printing.

Thank you.
01:40:34.41 Unknown (Councilmember) May I? Just one more for follow-up on Jonathan. Sorry. So on our priority calendar, we have very cryptic notation. So the stair program is basically a disaster preparedness map outlining all the stairs.
01:40:37.21 Joanne Goldschmidt Jonathan.
01:40:49.21 Jonathon Goldman It's not cryptic. It's broad. And I probably was, I emphasized the map because it's late and yet I'm in a position to deliver it. We have a lot of stairs work that needs to be done as well. and the challenge for me is either expending those resources, getting things designed, or not expending the resources so that we internally, at a staff level, have time to focus on figuring out what needs to be done. And we really haven't done, we haven't been very successful at that. But in the short term, the STAIRS program has been focused on the map.
01:40:54.09 Unknown (Councilmember) And...
01:41:34.37 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) And, Mr. Mary, and Jonathan, that map looked fantastic. I know it was just a draft, but I was very excited to see that. That was absolutely great. Thank you.
01:41:40.85 Joanne Goldschmidt See you.

that.
01:41:41.03 Unknown Yeah.
01:41:45.46 Unknown We'll take it to the new Charlie.
01:41:49.05 Jeffrey Chase Okay, if there's.
01:41:50.79 Unknown Thank you.
01:41:55.35 Jeffrey Chase Is this me?
01:42:02.48 Jeffrey Chase Any other questions on the linkages from the priority calendar to the capital project or the operating budget?

Okay, so now let's kind of review the capital improvement project. We have a five-year capital improvement plan, but this presentation covers from 2010 all the way through the next five years because it's important to see just how much infrastructure capital investment we've made over that seven, eight-year period. You can see down here it's about $12 million, and that does not,
01:42:37.06 Unknown that does not that would include the public safety facility. Is that $25 million? 26. 26, $9.57.
01:42:43.22 Unknown 26.
01:42:45.19 Jeffrey Chase So we've made, have made or will be making considerable capital investment in our streets, in our storm drains, in our building and waterfront projects, parks and recreation projects, pedestrian and project studies. In the past, up until last year, we had a fully funded capital improvement program. This is last year and this year we are showing that our storm drain capital projects are not fully funded, which is the reason that you have a storm drain fee study going out there right now. This current capital improvement program has designated about $1.6 million over the next five years that needs to be finding a funding source for them. Right now we do not have a funding source for that. The projects coming down here, if there's amount in the lines going across, then it's still going to be a continuing program, so our street repair program is an ongoing program. If there's only an amount in this column, that was a, like the bus shelter in Nevada, that project is finished. If there's no amount in this column but a budget amount in the, the budget amount in the, Projected budget 2013-14, and that means it's a new project going forward as we go through there. And so at this point, if there's any questions about any particular capital projects or any grouping of capital projects, Public Works Director and myself or the other department heads are here to answer those.
01:44:24.28 Joanne Goldschmidt you
01:44:25.92 Jeffrey Chase Okay.

Okay, so for the overview of the operating budget, again, just kind of continue from where we started last week, the citizen says, what does this mean to me? Is the budget balanced? Are there reserves? And so, first of all, is the budget balanced? And we'll say, yes, the general fund is balanced. Check. We can answer that question. Are there any reserves? And we do have more than adequate reserves. We have our liquid reserves. They're about 25%. Many cities only have 5%. Are there any reserves? And we do have more than adequate reserves. We have our liquid reserves. They're about 25%. Many cities only have 5% and our target for this city is 20%. So we're over above our target. So Councilmember Pfeiffer, this is a way of saying we're starting to lay aside more reserves for the future by saying that the Council's target is 20% and we're at 27%.
01:45:13.36 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Well...

Yeah, okay.
01:45:15.38 Jeffrey Chase Our total reserves, including non-liquid reserves, are 77%, and the major piece of the non-liquid reserves is the investment the general fund has in the MLK fund.

So yes, we can check that off. The city has adequate reserves. How much will this cost me? Well, we're generating new revenues. We're generating revenues at the same level that we've generated in prior years. There's no new taxes in this budget and property tax and sales tax and TOT are robust and growing because the economy is growing. So it's not gonna cost the citizens any more than what they've been paying.

So we've answered that question. And then finally we go, what services will we receive? And the budget's divided up into our police, our public works, our community development, and our recreation. There's no decreases in service. In some cases, services are increasing. For example, we'll be adding one more police officer midway through the budget year than we had this year. We'll be adding, going from a part-time property manager at MLK to a full-time property manager. And we've also then, you know, transferred an administrative analyst into the administration department while keeping two planners funded in the community development department. So we've had slight additions and increases in levels of service. And of course, our city librarian has improved the library services over there just in time.

So.
01:46:47.92 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Charlie, should we ask questions as you go? I was just curious, I know we implemented some, you know, second tier strategies and the lower, you know, the different wage. So with regards to the new, you know, hires that we're going to do, will any of those, I know that the...

the tiers will apply, correct? Correct. Any other savings we have with regards to the wage tiers or?
01:47:12.27 Jeffrey Chase Thank you.
01:47:18.13 Jeffrey Chase Yeah, well, there's four levels of savings. The first is if a person who's at the top of the pay grade goes out, prior to the labor reforms the council did, there would have only been a 25% differential for a new employee coming in. Now there's a 35% differential. The second is the pension tiers. We now have three pension tiers, and the employer cost goes down dramatically for each one of those pension tiers so you pick up significant savings. The difference between tier two and tier three is whether or not the employee has been in before or if he or she has never been in CalPERS. They've never been in CalPERS. They go into the lowest pension tier and that pension tier is a pretty small cost.
01:48:08.11 Adam Politzer Charlie, can I just add to that and to be real specific, we had estimated that we'd have a change of staff turnover and staff of two people per year which would then go from the top step and restart at the bottom step. And in this year alone, we are estimating that we'll have seven turnovers from the IT the community police department, community development department, the library, and police. I think I would have said police. So we actually are going to do much better than we anticipated.
01:48:08.16 Jeffrey Chase Charlie, can I just have a question?
01:48:37.32 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Mm-hmm.

Thank you.
01:48:42.76 Adam Politzer Thank you.
01:48:42.77 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Yes, that's, yeah, I've heard that. So with the Tier 2 or 3, do we know yet with respect to the new hires coming in, will they be Tier 2 or 3?
01:48:54.10 Jeffrey Chase Not until they're identified.
01:48:55.41 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Oh, I'm sorry. I thought we had already identified the candidates. Okay.
01:48:55.43 Jeffrey Chase Thank you.
01:48:59.03 Jeffrey Chase Thank you.

Thanks. SPEAKER 1, for the library, Jonathan Jonathan Hirsch, yes. He won't be leaving until sometime after the first of the year. Never mind. Thank you.
01:49:09.45 Joanne Goldschmidt Never mind, thank you.
01:49:12.17 Jeffrey Chase So let me continue because we only mentioned two. So the third reform, of course, is OPEB reform where new employees coming in the system do not receive OPEB benefits. And finally, there's healthcare reform where employees in tier one included in their cafeteria plan is 100% of the Kaiser premium. Employees in tier two only get 90% of the Kaiser premium funded into their cafeteria plan amount.

So significant savings. We estimate as a ballpark figure, each new hire represents about $50,000 of savings to the city.
01:49:52.06 Jeffrey Chase About 93% of our employees are at Step 7. 93% of our general fund employees. So we have a good mature workforce. We're happy with that workforce. And we're certainly not encouraging anyone to leave
01:49:52.69 Unknown Thank you.
01:50:07.45 Jeffrey Chase But when they do leave,
01:50:08.21 Joanne Goldschmidt Yeah.

Thank you.
01:50:09.65 Jeffrey Chase Thank you.

But when they do leave, we're poised. It's sort of like positioned. We're positioned to capture the advantages that the labor reform strategy gave us.
01:50:15.00 Joanne Goldschmidt Yeah.
01:50:23.47 Jeffrey Chase Thank you.

So.
01:50:26.96 Unknown Can I hear something?
01:50:29.41 Jeffrey Chase Amen.
01:50:29.69 Unknown Yes.
01:50:31.65 Jeffrey Chase So anyway, we feel that the fiscal year 2014 budget, which is a continuation of last year's two-year budget, is investing in the quality of Sausalito's future. It makes sense. It's expecting. Of course, the city continually does long-term financial planning as well as monitoring of the current-day situation, and we believe and recommend to the City Council that this budget, if adopted as it is, would provide for a continuation of level service, continuation of investment in infrastructure and be something that citizens can be proud of.

So if there are any questions, I'd be happy to answer any questions.
01:51:15.27 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) I'm Mr. Mayor.

The slide you had on the reserves, I just had a question. You have 27%. What is the dollar amount? Is that the 9?
01:51:28.61 Jeffrey Chase It is the nine million there.
01:51:30.23 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Yeah, I know that's the total reserves, but what's the liquid? So 27%...
01:51:34.19 Jeffrey Chase Oh, the liquid would be the...
01:51:35.54 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) When?

Thank you.
01:51:38.01 Jeffrey Chase The Assiding Fund balance plus the stabilization reserve. So these two together plus the Disaster Assistance Fund is $2.6 million.
01:51:38.24 Unknown Thank you.
01:51:50.09 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) But the Disaster Assistance Fund, isn't that targeted for specific disaster related?
01:51:57.18 Jeffrey Chase It's a reserve for a case of city experiences with a disaster.
01:51:58.48 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Yeah, for a disaster. Yeah. So I'm just understanding. Well, I mean, I asked the question because I know that we are targeting the dollars for specific uses. And so I was just getting clarity on the total balance and then how the pie is sliced. Okay, thank you.
01:52:19.16 Jeffrey Chase Thank you.

About a year and a half ago, the City Council, and you remember, we had the new GASB implementation of how do you assign different fund balances. So we have assigned, unassigned, and restricted fund balances.
01:52:26.56 Unknown Yes.
01:52:33.98 Jeffrey Chase and they are designated for purposes.

doesn't mean the city council can't change the designation.
01:52:40.51 Joanne Goldschmidt you
01:52:40.71 Jeffrey Chase Of course you can change. And also that we can, the definition of a disaster is something that, you know, a disaster today could be an earthquake, a disaster tomorrow could be an oil spill. You know, we didn't define the disaster in the Disaster Assistance Fund.
01:53:00.52 Jonathon Goldman to be your computer to be like,
01:53:03.21 Jeffrey Chase Well, I did have a disaster today. Red helped me sign it. We did it without touching it, but this document, which is kind of new this year, being in this format, has about 100 linked Excel objects. So after Tom left me today, I started going in and making some changes. I don't know if it was you being there or what. All the files were corrupted, all of them, all 100 linked objects in here. And it would have been a considerable amount of work to put it back together, but...
01:53:05.38 Unknown We're still here.
01:53:05.65 Unknown Right.
01:53:23.24 Ray Withy All the fun.
01:53:32.30 Ray Withy But...

like that before.
01:53:33.68 Jeffrey Chase when you read it.
01:53:36.05 Unknown (Councilmember) a magic man. So,
01:53:37.04 Jeffrey Chase Yeah.
01:53:37.23 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) So Charlie, then our total reserves in cash are roughly 3.4 million. Yes, correct.
01:53:44.16 Jeffrey Chase Yes, correct.
01:53:44.70 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Thank you.

Thank you.
01:53:45.97 Jeffrey Chase Well, that's the total reserves for the general fund. We have vehicle equipment replacement reserves. We have workers' compensation, general liability, and other funds that have pockets of money that are, again, designated for those purposes. But if the city, including the Tidelands Fund, has reserves, if the city, we have about a total of $10 million in cash that's EIDL invested at any point in time.
01:53:49.61 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Right.
01:53:49.97 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
01:54:16.60 Thomas Theodores You didn't see Tom's thumb drive.
01:54:18.74 Unknown Thank you.
01:54:18.79 Jeffrey Chase Thank you.
01:54:18.81 Unknown Yeah.
01:54:20.43 Jeffrey Chase Yeah.
01:54:23.35 Unknown Okay, any other questions?
01:54:23.84 Jeffrey Chase Any other questions from city council?
01:54:25.57 Unknown Yeah, Charlie, I just want to...
01:54:26.77 Thomas Theodores I just want to, just for clarity's sake, if you could, because these are important statements that you made earlier, and I just want to make sure you have a chance to clarify them.
01:54:30.67 Unknown They,
01:54:36.37 Thomas Theodores the series B public safety bonds have no, the city has, that's a direct obligation of the, you know, that goes straight through the citizens. That doesn't affect the city's budget whatsoever.
01:54:49.67 Jeffrey Chase So the annual debt service for the general obligation bonds runs through the fund, 2006 general obligation bond fund. So right now the debt service is about $454,000 annually. That's considerably reduced over where it was two years ago because we defeased a strip of bonds. We defeased a strip of the Series A bonds. Now the Series B bonds are what's called capital appreciation bonds and those do come into effect in 2026. But the whole general obligation bond strategy was that the annual debt service is an item that's placed on the property owner's property tax bill. And it was placed in a way that it anticipated property values rising at the same level as the debt service rose in order to keep the impact, the rate on the property tax payer the same through the years.
01:55:00.13 Thomas Theodores Right.
01:55:10.48 Unknown Thank you.
01:55:10.49 Thomas Theodores I mean.
01:55:10.85 Unknown Thank you.
01:55:16.93 Unknown Right.
01:55:48.30 Thomas Theodores Thank you.
01:55:51.48 Thomas Theodores And again, there was never a formal vote to issue pension obligation bonds, but there was a vote to look into it through whatchamacallit.
01:56:03.47 Jeffrey Chase The pension obligation bonds were authorized by the city council, which meant that we could submit it to the state supreme court for what a validation action. Right. The validation action says, in effect, we sue ourselves and we litigate ourselves and say, is this a valid bond issue? And that action was validated, so it's still out there.
01:56:12.78 Thomas Theodores Right.
01:56:26.38 Thomas Theodores Okay. And as far as your sort of five-year planning that you're sort of saying anticipates CalPERS can change its assumptions at any time, but part of the pension reforms that were put in place last year which again was not an unanimous vote of the Council, was put in place to anticipate rising costs in CalPERS premiums.
01:56:49.53 Jeffrey Chase CalPERS premium. It's the tier one pension force that is anticipated to increase 50% over a five-year period. But it's mitigated by people coming in at tier two and tier three. So any city that took the advance action that this council did before December 31st to put that second tier in will realize the benefits from that.
01:57:13.01 Thomas Theodores Thank you.

Okay, and the last question I had was regarding property taxes and the, you know, what we've turned over to the Southern Marin Fire Protection District.

and how your opinion is, A, how that's flowed through the budget and has it affected elasticity, inelasticity, and because we've also transferred obligation at the same time.

in terms of cost structure. There was concern at the time that was gonna make the city's budget much more volatile in terms of its exposure to other things? I mean, what would be your take on it having now lived through the transfer?
01:57:49.12 Jeffrey Chase So the original documents for the annexation said that we would transfer $2,667,500 in property tax. That was based on the figures back before the protest hearing. So the protest hearing extended it a little bit longer. So when we implemented the annexation, we still only implemented $2,667,000, not the $2,667,000 plus the 2% property tax growth. So number one, we did get a slight advantage of paying out less property taxes to the district than we would have if we would have implemented sooner. But what took most of the volatility out is what we actually experienced. We experienced three firefighters out on workers' comp for almost the full year, one for 11 months and the other two for 12 months. If we had not formed our own, if we had not annexed to the district, we would have had our own fire department. We probably would have had another million dollars in overtime costs just to continue with minimum manning. So we saved that money, and the extra employees of the district made up that coverage. And we had one other advantage from that, and it's that we did not transfer all the $2,670,000 property taxes to the district because we didn't transfer all of our employees over there. So the difference between what we get reimbursed from workers' comp insurance under what's called 4850 time, we ended up zero sum paying our firefighters versus what we paid out in property taxes. So the city maximized all its advantages from the fire annexation.
01:59:27.53 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
01:59:36.07 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Yes, Mr. Mayor. So, Charlie, with the three firefighters going on a workman's comp for a year, the district absorbed all of those costs and there were no extra costs.
01:59:48.46 Jan Johnson That's great.
01:59:48.60 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Thank you.

Thank you.

And okay.
01:59:52.98 Thomas Theodores No, the district didn't absorb all the costs. We kept them on our employment records. The district absorbed any overtime because they were obligated to provide that service now that they owned the district.
02:00:02.59 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) So the district absorbed the overtime, and so that was cost to the residents, not to the city. So the other comment I had regarding the vote on the Tier 1 and Tier 2, of course I supported the tiers. I didn't support the fact that we weren't including a 401k hybrid for new employees. Regarding the series B Bond, I guess my follow-up question to that is that I believe it, in 2026, that's when we start the payments, and I guess it's 1.14 million or something like that. And so I guess I know that the intent is for that to go.
02:00:07.85 Unknown Thank you.
02:00:07.87 Thomas Theodores If they're...
02:00:08.27 Unknown MS.
02:00:08.98 Thomas Theodores in.
02:00:09.39 Unknown Excess.
02:00:09.86 Thomas Theodores to the city.
02:00:10.48 Unknown Thank you.
02:00:50.93 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) you know, to the residents and then increase exponentially quite a bit, you know, in the life of that Series B.

But is it possible for the city to, you know, help pay down that? I mean, in some way, I mean, can we, if we have funds set aside, can we reduce the hit to residents for Series B?
02:01:15.37 Jeffrey Chase The city always has the option to what's called an advanced defies, the bond issue if I chose to do so.
02:01:23.97 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Okay, thank you.

Uh, and I, that was my only question. Thanks.
02:01:30.01 Unknown Okay, I'll go ahead and keep going.
02:01:43.06 Unknown Oh.

I thought you said sit down, Shirley.
02:01:44.49 Jeffrey Chase Oh, I thought you said sit down, Charlie. You said keep going. Get going.
02:01:47.97 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
02:01:48.04 Unknown He said, keep going. Keep going.
02:01:52.44 Jeffrey Chase Thank you.
02:01:53.08 Unknown laughter That must be my question.
02:01:55.82 Ray Withy Must be my Boston accent. I don't know.
02:01:57.86 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) I have a question, actually, Mr. Mayor. And it's not, it doesn't touch on what you've covered, but it is related to the budget, which is the, I guess in March 2004, there was a bond issue for Rotary Housing at 2.5 million and I guess the balance is currently 2.5 million.

And I guess I know that the city's not, you know, on the hook to pay that back. But do we know how the payment is coming with the rotary housing?
02:02:36.43 Jeffrey Chase Yeah, in fact, we include the outstanding amount of the bonds in our annual financial statement as a required disclosure. And it's occurring.
02:02:45.29 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Yeah, and so when do we know when it will be paid in full or when it will?
02:02:49.98 Jeffrey Chase I mean, off the top of my head, no, but I can send you an email.

Thank you.
02:02:52.90 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Okay, thanks.

Thank you.
02:02:55.84 Jeffrey Chase Thank you.
02:02:55.98 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Thank you.

Thank you.
02:02:56.75 Thomas Theodores Charlie, that's the use of bonding authority. It's not a blind obligation of the City of Saucer Leader. That's correct. It's not an obligation of the City of Saucer Leader.
02:03:00.77 Robert Haley So,
02:03:00.78 Jeffrey Chase Thank you.
02:03:00.84 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) THE END OF
02:03:00.92 Jeffrey Chase Thank you.
02:03:00.97 Robert Haley of the
02:03:01.04 Jeffrey Chase Thank you.

Thank you.
02:03:03.67 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Yeah, I understand it's not an obligation to the city, but we do have reputational risk.
02:03:07.94 Jeffrey Chase We do have reputation risk.
02:03:11.11 Ray Withy You can continue, Charlie. That concludes my presentation. Thank you.
02:03:12.72 Jeffrey Chase That concludes my presentation.
02:03:14.98 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) I'm going to put it on the hand.

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Thank you.
02:03:18.67 Ray Withy Okay, at this time here, any questions from the public? Jan?
02:03:30.13 Jan Johnson Hi, Jan Johnson. I don't pretend to understand at all all of this, but as a tax paying property, tax paying citizen. I think we'd all like at some point a summary statement to the citizens of what all these bonds are going to do to our taxes and when we can expect them. So in 2026, when I'm 76 and when I'm a fixed income, I'd like to know how much my property taxes are going to increase. And when I'm 85 and I'm still paying for it, I'd like to know what it is then. You'll have to sell the dollars. And all the other bonds that are out there that are going to come due, and the cost that the pension is going to be tapped onto our property taxes or some estimation thereof. I know you say there's a plan, but you haven't given us any specifics, and what the fire department property tax increase is gonna be, because frankly, I need to be able to plan. And a lot of us in town are my age,
02:04:03.44 Ray Withy You have to sell the dogs.
02:04:29.16 Jan Johnson And we don't understand this at all.

and we'd like some kind of general guesstimation of what is this going to cost us When does it start? How much is it going to go up? So we have some way of knowing, can we stay here? Can we afford to keep these homes?

whose property taxes are going to go up.

and our dotage, so please, not tonight, some kind of comment from the council or the administration as to This is what's coming, guys.

and what to expect would be greatly appreciated by us. Thanks.
02:05:09.49 Ray Withy Any other questions from the public? OK, let's bring it up here.

Any comments? This is just, there's no motion needed. It's just a.

Information continuation. Mr. Mayor, I have a comment.
02:05:23.80 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Mr. Mayor, I have a comment. So I do think that residents are entitled to know things like the, the, the, what's going to happen in 2026 with the Series B bonds, the capital appreciation bonds, which are in effect a no neg, or a neg, it's, it's the term negative amortization kind of situation where We've made the loan, but we don't make any payments right now. And then suddenly in 2026, we have this huge, big payment, and we go forward from there. So that's certainly scary. Residents also need to know about the CalPERS raising employer contributions by 50%. The fact that starting in 2015, it's going to go up 7% increase per year on the city. What that looks like, it's going to stay steady for five years and then, or rather for, phased in for five years, steady for 20 years, and then phased down for five years. They need to know what that looks like. We also need to start planning ahead with regards to the information CalPERS released, I think it was a few weeks ago or so when they were talking about, with regards to the actuaries, taking a look at their own calculations in CalPERS and having doubts about whether or not they have been really, perhaps underestimated the cost, the future costs of these benefits and the actuarial risks. So that's why when I hear things like the extra money we have in the general fund, I want to just grab that money and set it aside and, you know, put it in the reserves. And in fact, I want to look for other opportunities to boost that. I think that we are looking at big costs in the future, big costs. And some of the costs we know are coming. We know they're here. We know they're coming. We know when they're coming. And I'm sure the council would support publishing something that said in plain English what's around the bin, and so that people know what's coming, and so that we as a council can be informed.

when, for example, we have extra funds like we had in the have today in the general fund that we know, ooh, you know what? Let's set these funds aside.
02:08:04.45 Ray Withy Well, that's your opinion.

You know, I still think you have construction, you have capital improvements, and if you really look at capital improvements, almost every 10 years they double. So where are you going to do it? Save the money there, but yet not keep on making your capital improvements? And then in 10 years when the prices double, what did you really gain?

Anyway.
02:08:31.25 Thomas Theodores Thank you.

Thank you.
02:08:31.75 Ray Withy So,
02:08:32.02 Thomas Theodores opinion.

Jan, you're right, it is confusing. A lot of this stuff gets confusing if you don't have to deal with it all the time. And you're a very intelligent human being.

There's no super conspiracy going on here to my knowledge of, but it would be helpful, I think, for, no, you're not. I think other people are, but that is not where I think there certainly would be helpful for folks to kind of have some visualization of what, and we can talk to Southern Marin to get fired, get their vision of what their tax situation is going to be going forward and try to get come together and present something in a simpler format for the residents to understand. But on the pension side, that's part of the pension reform we just did. We don't anticipate this moment in time coming back for anything that would impact the taxpayer to meet our pension obligations. So that's part of the reforms we just put in place. And some of the obligations we paid off will hopefully hold those costs down. And more reform in the next contract cycle hopefully will, not hopefully, because that's not the greatest thing for the employees, but that's probably part of the flow of things going forward. But, you know, the way the, and I don't know if this was done before I was on the council or not, when these bonds were issued for the public safety facility, because I can't remember the timing of it.
02:08:55.41 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Neither am I.
02:09:58.98 Thomas Theodores when they actually went out.

The idea was kind of keep that tolling rate of what percentage of your property value was going to be assigned to paying off the Like right now, our private taxes are 1% more or less for everybody.

in California, but your tolling rate for the public safety building was sort of built, there were assumptions made at the time that sort of said, okay, if it's this mount today in 2010 or whenever they were actually formally, probably eight or when they were issued, I can't remember, Um, that in 2026 that percentage would be the same, that percentage of tolling rate to meet those payments because your house would have appreciated by a certain value. From a cash perspective, it's a bigger cash obligation for you as a resident. So you're right to kind of think, if I'm planning ahead, I need to know what that obligation is.

We'll try and get that boiled down into some simpler language. But in terms of issuing new bonds, yes, perhaps the The Rotary Housing Project would have some impact if you didn't have a sign, but frankly, we'd be tough to go out and issue bonds without an assigned revenue source anyway at this moment in time, so it's not really a risk from the city's point of view. Unless that housing project defaulted, then it could be a big, that could be an issue, but right now they're in compliance and doing fairly well.
02:11:19.12 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Mr. Mayor?
02:11:19.88 Thomas Theodores Yeah.
02:11:20.49 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Yeah, so first of all, I'm certainly not suggesting that we not fund our general, I mean, our capital improvements. Infrastructure has always been a very important platform for me. I've certainly an important value to repair our sewers in our streets. But I do believe that when we have budgeted for those capital improvements, and then we wind up with a a little surplus as we did today, that we keep in mind that we're going to have these CalPERS increases in 2015 to the tune $115,000 a year, and that we consider the Series B bonds coming due, and that we factor residents and their costs in our decisions and what we do with those surpluses. Secondly, asking for – excuse me, you're interrupting me, and Mr. Mayor, I would ask you to facilitate this meeting.
02:12:14.99 Unknown Go ahead, continue.
02:12:17.68 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Now, Mr. Mayor, could you please? Thank you. So with respect to implying that some folks on this council believe there's a conspiracy when in reality I'm simply asking for transparency for residents. I'm asking for residents to be, well, I have at least 15 seconds because I was interrupted.
02:12:40.02 Joanne Goldschmidt I'm totally.
02:12:46.50 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Mr. Mayor, do I have permission? Sure. All right. Thank you. To create a summary sheet educating residents about Series B bonds, the fact that they are a neg amortization bond, the fact that CalPERS has increased employer costs 50%, the fact that CalPERS actuarial risks are perhaps underestimated. These things are educating our residents, and I would support that. And I'm sure, you know, I think we can get consensus on that, that this is important.
02:12:48.85 Unknown Thank you.
02:12:48.88 Unknown All right.
02:13:18.63 Ray Withy Well.

Some people will work on fear. Some people work on care.

Any other comments?

At this time here, can we take a five-minute break? We don't have to make it.
02:13:32.52 Thomas Theodores Thank you.
02:13:32.53 Ray Withy Thank you.
02:13:32.55 Thomas Theodores There's no motion.
02:13:33.21 Ray Withy No motion on that. So let's take up to five-minute break.
02:13:33.36 Thomas Theodores .
02:13:42.96 Ray Withy Jonathan, you're on.
02:13:44.85 Jonathon Goldman Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Jonathan Goldman, your Public Works Director again. This is agenda item 6C, which is a proposal to amend the Master Peace Schedule to authorize flat rate parking, flat rate pricing for parking in municipal parking lots 1 through 4 on certain dates and at certain times.

a brief summary and introduction because, again, some questions came up about the intent of this item.

between the time the staff report was prepared and this evening, Staff doesn't plan to charge residents for parking unless they exceed the three free hours that are available to them now.

What we do want to do and are asking the council for the authority to do is to have the flexibility to implement flat rate parking for times when demand for parking in those lots is expected to exceed the supply. And as council is aware, we bought parking equipment that is a lot allows that flexibility and it allows it without running around and changing a lot of switches and locks and keys. It can be done over the air by wireless communications that the pay stations communicate with.

The value in implementing demand-based or congestion pricing is that we can simplify pricing in those circumstances and optimize our revenues strictly based on demand. So as an example, knowing that the Fourth of July festivities would create demand for parking that can't be accommodated, the city could establish the requirement at the beginning at something like 2 o'clock on the Fourth, parking in those lots is 20 bucks.

with no in and out.

Similarly, the city could establish the requirement at the beginning of 4 p.m. on Jez and Blues by the day of Fridays. Parking and meeting lots 1 and 2 should be $5 flat rate.

Doing so, again, would simplify the use of the lots for parking patrons. There's no need to figure out how long you're going to stay there. And likely increase our revenue from those lots, as well as encourage the use of lots further away from the event and encourage use of alternative modes of transportation other than personal cars to get to and from the special event.
02:16:10.50 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Should we hold our questions?
02:16:11.94 Jonathon Goldman questions.
02:16:12.48 Ray Withy questions you do.
02:16:14.99 Jonathon Goldman So really simply the alternatives are not to change the master fee schedule. And what that means is that if we did want to implement pricing for a special event, staff would have to prepare a staff report, agendize it for the council, come back and change the fees for that event. And our recommendation is that the Council give the city manager, as the parking manager, the authority to set flat rate pricing for the city.

If he were going to get a raise for that, he should have asked for it when he was made parking manager with the valet parking ordinance. The authority has set flat rate pricing for those muni lots only, one through four, during certain periods of time and on certain days when demand for parking is expected to exceed supply.

anticipated that implementing that pricing will increase parking revenues.

picture of our lots. I couldn't get the puzzle pieces to show up in front.

And so our recommendation is to adopt a resolution of the City Council amending revised and restated master fee schedule adopted in fiscal 2008-9 to authorize flat rate pricing for parking on certain dates and at certain times.
02:17:41.80 Unknown Thank you.
02:17:41.81 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Mr. Mayor, do you have a question? So, Jonathan, just because I
02:17:42.50 Unknown Yep.

Um...
02:17:47.99 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) I actually need clarification on this.

So...

If a resident is going to Jazz by the Bay, they're driving their car to Jazz by the Bay They get three free hours of parking.

They show up at the parking lot during a flat rate parking fee period.

Do they have to pay the flat rate fee or do they just go in and they park for the remainder balance of their three hours?
02:18:15.21 Jonathon Goldman That would depend on what the city manager or the parking manager chose to do in that circumstance. And at this point, as indicated at the outset, the city manager does not intend to change anything that's available to residents. So my understanding is that even if he had the authority, he doesn't have plans to charge residents for anything other than what we can already charge residents.
02:18:40.27 Adam Politzer Thank you.
02:18:40.30 Jonathon Goldman Well, I understand.
02:18:40.30 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Well, I understand...
02:18:40.84 Adam Politzer Thank you.
02:18:40.86 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
02:18:40.89 Adam Politzer Can I answer that more directly?

A resident came to Blues and Jazz by the Bay and arrived an hour early at 5.30 and stayed until 8.30. That would be their three hours. They would have free parking.
02:18:54.37 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) So is that because that's your personal opinion that we've just heard? Or is that part of the policy, the resolution we're adopting, that it is hard and fast that Residents will not be charged the flat fee irrespective of even if the city manager wanted to charge that this flat Flat rate pricing.

will not apply to residents, if they have, you know, for their three hours of the balance remainder of that.
02:19:32.12 Jonathon Goldman So the you Thank you.

The resolution that you have before you does not have a prohibition on the parking manager's authority to charge residents a flat rate for parking.
02:19:43.45 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) So in other words, if the city manager wanted to, the city manager could charge residents.
02:19:51.01 Jonathon Goldman If the curse.
02:19:51.36 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) in the current resolution.
02:19:52.98 Jonathon Goldman If the council adopted this resolution, the city may
02:19:56.03 Adam Politzer Thank you.
02:19:56.56 Jonathon Goldman that it's
02:19:57.07 Adam Politzer Thank you.
02:19:57.08 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
02:19:57.22 Adam Politzer Thank you.
02:19:57.60 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Okay, thank you.
02:19:57.64 Adam Politzer Okay, thank you. And just to expand on that, I think where that would come into play based on the example I just showed.

that once they exceeded their three hours of parking for free and say blues and jazz, Friday.

when blues and jazz take place, and they wanted to now go over to Poggio continue their night out in the town They would then be required to pay $5 for that flat fee for the rest of the evening.
02:20:25.75 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Well, $5 today, it could be $20 five years from now. It's whatever the flat fee is, correct?

Bye.
02:20:36.81 Adam Politzer Yeah, with some understanding that based on whatever the parking demand is, we don't want to have people choose not to park in Sausalito.

because we're charging $20 and gouging people. I mean, that's not something that I think we would just randomly put a figure out there.

So on a Friday night, it may make more sense for us to have a flat fee rate for all the lots at $5 versus $3 an hour um, at lot one and two.
02:21:08.45 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Yeah, my point, though, was answered, which is that this resolution is subject to the decisions of the city manager with regards to setting what that flat rate fee is, if that flat rate fee changes, and whether it kicks in or not, as opposed to the lower, you know, rate.
02:21:36.16 Jonathon Goldman Exactly.
02:21:37.32 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Thank you.
02:21:41.33 Ray Withy Any other questions?

Public comment?

Okay, green here, back, any comment?
02:21:50.97 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) I have concerns about this, a lot of concerns.

I'm concerned on the fact that we have, we, implementing this flat rate pricing, I think that residents, it should be baked in the resolution that residents always get a waiver from flat rate pricing. They do pay taxes and that goes to supporting our infrastructure in town and I think that that's good for parking downtown. And I also am concerned with regards to implementation. It would be hard if we make the decision to do a flat rate fee for an event. There has to be a lot of outreach in the community ahead of time. Otherwise, you're going to have residents showing up, and they're supposed to pay $20 for a July 4th parking space. Or they have to watch their clock and make sure they're back in three hours, or they're going to be hit with this big flat rate fee. So my personal opinion is I am weary to support this as written and I think it's frankly unfair to residents.
02:23:04.85 Joanne Goldschmidt Great, see.
02:23:05.64 Joanne Goldschmidt That's funny.
02:23:17.14 Ray Withy you know, three hours, giving him three hours in downtown, is really very, very fair.

Um...

And this type of pricing, now it's starting to every city or most cities. You go to San Francisco now and you go to a Giants game, Let me tell you something. You pull into a meter that normally is like $2 an hour, You're going to pay $7 and $8 an hour because that's the way it's set up.

And as far as encouragement, we talk about recycling. What about people getting our...

What about people going down and walking?

Whatever happened to that? You make it so comfortable and so easy for them to go down there that they will abuse this.

I agree with this direction, and I think the places, and that gives the city manager the ability. We have America's Cup coming up. We don't know what it's going to be like, but if it gets crazy, we want to be able to have some kind of management on it, so.

and The residents are doing We've been very, very fair with the residents on parking downtown. You go to the Jazz by the Bay, that's over by 8.30.

All right, they get down there at six. They have actually another half hour. So now if they wanna go out and eat, The city is on the house.

No.

You pay your way.

and that's the way I feel about it. Let them walk down. I walk down.
02:24:50.45 Unknown (Councilmember) May I comment?

I don't have any concerns, and I do trust our city manager.

But if we are talking, if the intention is really that we are going to not charge any flat rates to the residents. I would just, since we are this resolution is merely going to give the city manager more flexibility to charge flat rates.

I would say that we would adopt the motion AS IS AND JUST SAY FOR NON-RESIDENTS. BECAUSE AND IF YOU FIND, IF THE CITY MANAGER FIND THAT He needs more...

FLEXIBILITY IN CHARGING RESIDENTS.

Uh, objective intention changes, then we can always come back here for that additional parlor.
02:25:36.37 Adam Politzer Can I ask for clarification there? Because the example that I gave, may actually be less expensive for the resident.

If we charge a flat fee, so they get three hours of their regular free parking, and then we have a flat fee of $5 for non-residents. Once that three hours expires, then the resident would be now subject to that $5 flat fee, which if they stayed for an additional two hours in lot one would be a dollar less. I think when you look at the America's Cup example, America's Cup example where someone may come down to watch the 45-minute race and park and use all three hours of their free parking we may be charging the tourists the visitor somewhere in the neighborhood of $10 or $15 or $20 depending on what the market could handle.

So I just want to make sure that you're saying anytime we want to charge the resident the flat fee, we would have to come back to Council for that consideration.
02:26:49.88 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Yeah, because, Mr. Mayor, if I may clarify, because Adam, the example you're giving us is as if the flat fee was $5. But in fact, the other example we had up here was that for the July 20th, the flat fee would be $20.

And five years from now, who knows what that flat fee might be?

So in this example, Sure, it's like a dollar, you know, would be a dollar less, the flat fee example, but I think that it's reasonable to say that moving forward the flat fee could go up.

and would not be cheaper.

And anyway, I like the idea of at least starting this out because we need to hear from residents, we need to hear their feedback, that we started out with non-residents.
02:27:38.44 Unknown (Councilmember) And I appreciate that you want to pass along some of it. But it actually might be simpler for residents to know whenever they park in the parking lot, it's going to cost them a certain amount of money. And it just may be easier. And to try it out. I guess I'm looking also for a little simpler solution, but we could.

and find that as well.
02:28:00.72 Unknown Thank you.
02:28:00.75 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
02:28:00.77 Unknown .
02:28:00.94 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
02:28:01.43 Ray Withy Okay. Ray? Could I ask maybe our public works director
02:28:02.63 Unknown (Councilmember) Good.
02:28:08.38 Ray Withy Do we have the flexibility in the equipment we're using that if a resident uses a resident card, it could be during a flat fee period that the software would be able to recognize it as a resident and apply the standard rates?
02:28:27.50 Jonathon Goldman Yeah.

Thank you.
02:28:30.55 Jonathon Goldman Yeah.
02:28:30.60 Jonathon Goldman Yeah.
02:28:30.69 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
02:28:32.87 Ray Withy I don't know.

Are we all aware right now of how the packing rates are?

Parking lot one is $3 an hour.

Parking lot two is $3 an hour.

Parking lot three is $2 an hour.

And you go all the way down the parking lot floor and beyond. And that's one.

You know, parking lot one is the most demanded because of the ferry and everything else. Those are box seats.
02:29:03.68 Joanne Goldschmidt Mm-hmm.
02:29:04.32 Ray Withy Those are box seats, and the residents are getting box seats for three hours. And if they want to now go off on their own and go to a restaurant, I think they, and pay a flat fee.

In this town, you get a cup of coffee for five bucks.

And as far as the future goes, you mean to tell me you're sitting here and telling me that gasoline is going to be the same price as it is now?

No way.

No way.
02:29:32.03 Thomas Theodores Thank you.
02:29:32.06 Ray Withy Thank you.
02:29:32.10 Thomas Theodores Thank you.

So, yeah, I mean, there's two sides to all this when you come to ticket pricing. That's something I have to deal with in my job every day.

The, uh...

variable pricing can be rather or flat fee pricing can go either way. But I think the thing to keep in mind, looking forward, is the idea is to eventually have that three hours apply to on-street parking once all the meters are swapped out. But at the same time, as a fiduciary responsibility, we have to look down the road and say, hey, if we're going to lose that quarter that somebody puts in before they go to Starbucks for their morning coffee, you have to make it up somewhere else, right, if we're going to have that ability to park for free in front of, on a street spot as part of your three hours, right? So I think we need to have a little bit of visibility or vision down the road to say, hey, this, and also to have, if we raised it to 20 bucks and people were, or if the city manager or the parking manager or whoever that is raises the fee, the chief, don't leave your hand away, raises the fee to some price that people are going to let you know, right? And we'll find out really fast and we'll apply pressure to the city manager. So to there is still a feedback loop of you know, if the pricing gets out of whack, I think there's always a benefit in fixed pricing that you know what you're getting yourself into.

What people worry about mostly when they have variable pricing or, you know, tolling is that, God, I've got to, you know, I'm checking my watch and I've got to run back there to make sure, you know, or I want to eat and get out of here because I don't want to have that roll out. So, There's benefit on both sides, that you can minimize your cost or you have visibility in what your cost is going to be if it's a flat fee. Whether it's $5, $20, I can't tell you what the right pricing is.

I think the key there is to signal well ahead of time what that pricing is going to be.

for these special events. Don't just do it on a whim. I'm not saying you're planning on doing this. But say, hey, put signs out.

Hey, the parking for Jazz by the Bay for not for Free for three hours at $5 if you go beyond that. Resident.

And people say, hey, Fourth of July, if you come from 2, right, and stay through until 10 or whenever the fireworks are, when it gets dark and the fireworks are over,
02:31:35.72 Unknown And...
02:31:44.58 Thomas Theodores That's eight hours of parking. That's $20. That's a good deal.

So that's cheaper than if I, you know, so plus you're having a different price than lot one, lot two, lot three. I'm imagining that's your whole goal is to get people to park further away, use those lots, who are more price conscious, right? So just like you see with the art festival parking pricing on that weekend. That's 20 bucks. Well, there's different prices how far away you are, how convenient you would need to be, right? So in taking account, you know, ADA and all that other stuff so you have, you know, people who need to be close all accounted for.
02:32:08.04 Unknown though.

Thank you.

Well, there's different places to help.

Yeah.
02:32:21.03 Thomas Theodores The way this is worded, there's probably some smithing that can be done. I really don't feel like doing it myself right now, to tell you the truth. But maybe if you... I don't think you... I'm not so worried about the resident-non-resident period, because I think you can do some things like Ray was suggesting to sort of, in the interim period, to kind of make sure people... Okay, it just goes back to the normal tolling cost if people are scared that $5 is too much, you know? They're not going to get their value for $5.

Maybe you can come back to this at the next meeting.
02:32:51.12 Ray Withy meeting.

I really feel also that, you know, how do you encourage people? We encourage people to go carpooling.
02:32:52.91 Thomas Theodores I think.
02:32:53.77 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) Thank you.
02:33:00.98 Ray Withy Up and down 101.

You know, we're in a very small community. How do you encourage people to either capoo or walk down?
02:33:11.00 Joanne Goldschmidt Yeah.
02:33:11.49 Ray Withy Okay.

I mean, really. If you don't, and you make it so easy for them, I don't care.
02:33:16.84 Unknown They're going to take advantage of it. Personally, I don't use the local, the watch downtown.
02:33:20.84 Ray Withy Thank you.
02:33:20.85 Thomas Theodores I'm lost downtown because I'd rather walk than hard, even if it's freight.
02:33:23.22 Unknown even if it's free. But you got any coverage, some kind of, tell your neighbor, you going to the jazz by the bass?
02:33:25.33 Thomas Theodores Yeah.
02:33:26.02 Unknown Thank you.
02:33:29.04 Ray Withy Let's go down in one cup. I mean, we have to do something. Do a cover chat. How about...

Mr. Mayor,
02:33:35.74 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Mr. Mayor.
02:33:36.48 Ray Withy with the being that they could be in
02:33:38.52 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Mr. Mayor, may I comment? So...

Regarding the comments I've heard regarding getting people to walk, we have seniors in town. They live in the hills. They can't walk down all those steep hills in that distance. And they get in their cars, and they drive down. Jazz by the Bay is a very social event. They they pack picnic baskets they come down and it is a joy for them and to suddenly start imposing these flat flat rate fees you know in my mind is just not the thing to do it's not it isn't like
02:34:23.27 Ray Withy It isn't like they're going down. They get three hours right off the bat.
02:34:27.80 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) They get three hours, and they know they get three hours, but to thought that going 15 minutes beyond that, you're going to be hit with this flat rate fee of $20 is just, it's not fair. I don't think it's fair. I'm sorry. I can support Council Member...
02:34:31.73 Ray Withy Thank you.
02:34:47.52 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Theodora's suggestion that this resolution apply to non-residents, and I would recommend we move forward with that, but not have it apply to residents.
02:34:57.77 Ray Withy Well, I just agree.
02:34:59.44 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) So I'd like to make a motion.
02:35:02.48 Ray Withy Go ahead, make a motion.
02:35:05.50 Mary Wagner Mr. Mayor, if I may, just briefly, if the council's inclined to...
02:35:05.51 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Mr. Mayor, if I may.
02:35:11.83 Mary Wagner have a different pricing system for residents versus non-residents.
02:35:14.02 Unknown Thank you.

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02:35:16.23 Mary Wagner I think it would be beneficial to do a little research on our ability to do that.
02:35:20.95 Barbara Geisler There are...
02:35:22.56 Mary Wagner There are situations where you can charge residents a different fee, for example, for a, you know, a park and rec class. You see that all the time. I don't know how it applies to parking.
02:35:33.19 Unknown (Councilmember) Well, but we do this already. We give them free parking now.
02:35:33.98 Mary Wagner But we I think that's different than charging them different rates for parking. I understand that we do the three free hours. I'm just suggesting to you that if the Council wants to set different rates of parking, I would just want to look at that.

or come back to you if there's an issue. If you want to do it that way and then we come back, if there's a problem with it, I can let you know that way too.
02:35:50.96 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
02:35:50.98 Unknown it.
02:35:55.83 Unknown I think we should continue to say.
02:35:58.74 Ray Withy I agree with that. I believe we should continue this item.
02:35:59.87 Unknown Thank you.
02:36:02.15 Thomas Theodores I'll make a motion to continue this item to a date uncertain.
02:36:02.52 Unknown Thank you.
02:36:05.88 Thomas Theodores Thank you.
02:36:05.91 Ray Withy I'm gonna second that.
02:36:07.02 Ray Withy to the summertime,
02:36:07.97 Thomas Theodores Thank you.
02:36:07.99 Ray Withy Thank you.
02:36:08.00 Thomas Theodores Yeah, but they can come back next time. Okay. It's up to that.
02:36:09.39 Ray Withy Okay.

You got a second. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Aye. No. I vote no.
02:36:18.87 Unknown Thank you.
02:36:20.59 Ray Withy Mm-hmm.
02:36:20.89 Unknown Thank you.
02:36:24.61 Jonathon Goldman Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

Next item is also mine, item 6D.

This is another parking regulation amendment. More complex and controversial than the last, I'm confident.
02:36:46.59 Jonathon Goldman This item is seeking establishment of parking regulations on portions of Coloma, Ebb Tide, and a very small portion of Sausalito Boulevard, as indicated in the staff report. There is one primary reason for these recommendations. traffic studies done for our new tenant at MLK Campus, the Lycée Francais, identified some regulations that they thought were warranted in the first pass of their work. We then asked them to do some additional work with emphasis on the on the northern part of that campus and they have subsequently provided a subsequent report which was included in your packet. Specifically, they recommended along portions of Ebtide near I probably should stick with the slides. So I'll talk about the MLK piece. There's one other little piece that we, when we did some storm drainage improvement work on 600 block of Sausalito Boulevard, apparently obliterated some red curb that had predated our project there. The city engineer evaluated it and his recommendation is that we do reinstall a regulatory no parking zone of a relatively short length to protect against collisions when people use an individual driveway on that street. And there's some details in
02:37:48.12 Unknown Thank you.
02:37:51.50 Joanne Goldschmidt of.
02:38:32.40 Jonathon Goldman That's the driveway wing across from 622 Sausalito Boulevard. There's a photograph in the staff report and I think I managed to get it in this presentation. The more detailed stuff has to do with both Ebtide and Coloma near the MLK Park campus. Kim Lee Horn's recommendation, the traffic consultant, was to use no parking zone to create adequate, it's called decision site distance for southbound traffic at the stop where Ebtide intersects with the MLK park. Just to remind you of the kind of comes into a T intersection with itself with a stop sign and coming down the hill basically southbound. If vehicles are parked along the northerly curve of Ebtide at that location, it's very difficult to see whether it's safe to pull out.

There's no stop on the traffic coming up the hill, and especially in the morning during drop-off periods for New Village School, their recommendation is that 110 feet of red curb, no parking on that northerly curb of Ebtai be established so that vehicles at that location, drivers, have a chance to see whether it's safe to proceed or not.

And then in addition, when we were fortunate enough to receive Safe Routes to School funding to construct the sidewalk on the southerly side of Ebtai between Bridgeway and that campus, the road got narrowed in some areas that at this point after watching those operations for a year and based on Kimley-Horn's recommendation, it's too narrow for two-way traffic with parking on the side, on the northerly side as well. So we want to reestablish two-lane operations further down using approximately 50 feet of red curve where the traveled way would be reduced to less than 20 feet if parking remained permitted.

One more thing on Ebb Tide near MLK, Kim Lee Horn's recommendation was that the duration of parking be limited on both sides of the east-west Ebb Tide segment to three hours on school days, Monday through Friday, from 7 a.m. to 4 p.m. What that will do is make sure that parents who have to park in order to drop their children off at New Village Schools specifically and walk, that they have a place to park, rather than double parking in the drop-off area or driving through a congested campus and conflicting with dog park parking or things like that. The same would apply for pickup as well later in the day.

And then finally, the northerly side of Coloma, and I have a graphic on this as well, where the entry to and exit from the MLK campus on Coloma is near the bus barn or Building 7. Also for decision site distance reasons, a vehicle stopped at that stop at that gateway preparing to turn left or right onto Coloma, we want to make sure that they have adequate decision site distance so that if a vehicle is coming up or down Coloma, down isn't as much of an issue because the traffic's on the other side of the road, but for traffic that's coming up Coloma from Bridgeway, we want to make sure there's adequate site distance for them to decide that it's safe to proceed.

A no-change alternative based on our observations and our expert traffic consultants would be less than optimal traffic operations with potential safety issues, and our proposed change would establish the recommended regulations and direct staff to monitor performance and recommend revisions as warrantediscal impact is minimal and within our normal operational budget for DPW maintenance. Here's some graphics from the more recent of the Kimley-Horns Report. Kimley Horn's report.
02:42:34.47 Joanne Goldschmidt Amen.
02:42:49.31 Jonathon Goldman This is the intersection I talked about first, ebb tide and ebb tide where the T intersection is and the stop. There are recommendations for the regulations here, the red curb regulation here. There are a number of other recommendations that they made that are not regulatory and they're actually outside the public right of way.

They aren't part of what we're asking you to approve tonight. They did not address this issue at the bulb out in their report, but based on our evaluations, that red curve is necessary there, and I have my own graphic for it. And then they're showing the three-hour parking zones here as well.
02:43:12.66 Unknown Thank you.
02:43:20.76 Unknown uh,
02:43:33.92 Jonathon Goldman some other graphics depicting recommendations for improvements to parking and circulation within the northerly part of the campus.

middle part of the campus.

Southerly part of the campus, here's Coloma, here's the stop I was referring to.

As you may recall, the circulation, the flow for drop-off and pickup at Lice Francais is around this loop around Building 7 and back out. So the vehicle, including a 40-foot bus stopping at this location, we want to make sure they have adequate sight distance to be able to see that it's safe to proceed in their turning moment towards bridge lane.

Here's a image of the proposed 110 feet of curve on ebb tide at ebb tide, as well as the bump out and 50 feet, approximately 50 feet of no parking on the opposite side of the bump out. Here's just a different picture of that.
02:44:25.73 Unknown I've talked about it.
02:44:37.49 Jonathon Goldman And then here's a worse quality picture of the red zone on Coloma, which probably won't really be a red zone. It'll be posted, no parking, because there's no curb there.

Amen.

This is the 600 block of Sausalito. Yes, sir.
02:45:03.40 Jonathon Goldman Um, It's...
02:45:10.90 Jonathon Goldman Well, but if you look at this curb cut and the driveway width, it's actually outside that domain. And parking enforcement are rightfully reluctant to enforce a regulation that either isn't in the vehicle code or hasn't been adopted by the city council. And I agree that this might seem trivial, but in the city engineer's judgment it was important and with the police department's concurrence we wanted to ask you to enact it as a regulation.

It's minuscule.

Yes.
02:45:53.24 Jonathon Goldman Yeah, it
02:45:59.13 Jonathon Goldman Right.

And it,
02:46:05.44 Jonathon Goldman Well, the trick is enforcement. And again, I think it's entirely appropriate that parking enforcement officers are reluctant to ticket or tow a vehicle unless they're confident that that's going to be upheld in court. And so...
02:46:05.88 Joanne Goldschmidt So...
02:46:21.14 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) So Mr. Mayor, I have a question.

So it was a little hard to see. I read the staff report. I looked at the maps. But for the MLK and the dog park area, because I'm very familiar with the dog park because I go there a lot. So I'm just curious, how many parking spaces are going away? I understand the 50 feet for safety there. That's for the children walking in, right? All over.
02:46:52.44 Jonathon Goldman All of these proposed regulatory changes are for safety. Okay. 110 feet here and about 50 feet here. And I can't tell you off the top of my head how many spaces that is. Nobody parks here now because the road is obviously too narrow. But people do park on this side now and the road is still too narrow.
02:46:58.15 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Thank you.
02:46:58.16 Unknown OK.
02:46:58.42 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Thank you.
02:47:16.20 Unknown Well, what's my minimum spot like? Is it 20 to 18 feet we usually go with? Yeah, I'd say 20. Divide by 20, so it's 70 spots.
02:47:23.12 Jonathon Goldman Yeah, I'd say 20.
02:47:26.44 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) So how many, so we're losing seven spots there. And then our, it wasn't clear to me looking at this. It looked like there were some changes proposed.
02:47:26.50 Unknown Thank you.
02:47:36.18 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) For the other area where the dog parking is for the residents use, the parking, I know there are eight spaces for the dog park, but I mean clearly, you know, those get filled up like that, not just by dog park people. So what other changes and what other parking spaces could be lost around the dog park up the hill, not down, but nearer?
02:48:01.16 Jonathon Goldman Yeah.

Kim Lee Horn made recommendations and those recommendations have not been fully evaluated or implemented, but that's my department's discretion.

And I can't tell you right off the top of my head. We need to be in compliance with the Building Code and the Americans with Disability Act for disabled parking. And we need to be able to safely park and un-park and move traffic through there, including delivery trucks and things like that. So their recommendations were based on those current plans.
02:48:40.61 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) So when I'm looking at general parking for buildings one and two, because obviously there's no reinforcement for the dog parks parking. A lot of, you know, folks park in, it's kind of like everybody just parks wherever there's a space. And I'm assuming that although this is kind of what's being designated, that there's still going to be flexibility with respect to where people park.

In other words, if someone from the New Village School parks in a dog park, they're not
02:49:06.55 Unknown Thank you.
02:49:06.58 Unknown Thanks.
02:49:06.83 Unknown Thank you.
02:49:11.03 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) going, that's not going to be an issue or vice versa if someone from the dog park parks in the general parking for buildings one and two that won't be of an issue.
02:49:19.78 Jonathon Goldman Yeah, I'm not aware of an epidemic of inflexibility in campus now, and although I'm sometimes inflexible, I don't think that that's really the policy. What we are trying to do, and we have the advantage of having both Leslie Johnson and Lauren Umbertis working with the campus and the campus community In fact, I spent a couple of hours with New Village School representatives last Friday going over the recommendations of this report. And what we're trying to do is identify those issues, make improvements, and then as we talked about, even with respect to what we're asking you to do tonight, we have an obligation to pay attention and see whether they are an improvement or if not, it's our obligation to go back to the way things were or identify a subsequent improvement.
02:50:17.81 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) So in other words, there will still be flexibility up in that area with regards to who parks where?
02:50:25.76 Jonathon Goldman I don't anticipate any less flexibility than there is now, no. Because that's where you go.
02:50:29.94 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Okay, because that's where you got your phrase, epidemic of inflexibility. Yes, Dr. Johnson, and she's still here. It's a very interesting phrase. Had never heard that one before. Thank you, Jonathan. Quick question for it.
02:50:34.95 Jonathon Goldman Yes.
02:50:35.48 Joanne Goldschmidt Dr. Johnson, which is so reassess.
02:50:37.66 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
02:50:43.38 Thomas Theodores Quick question for either one of you. So are parking enforcement officers going to enforce the three-hour parking? I mean, is this going to become a new route for them? I don't know. Do they go down to that part of town normally? Or is that going to be more irregular? They do go to that part?
02:50:56.49 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
02:50:57.94 Thomas Theodores Okay. So to Linda's question, the spaces here along the dog park, are those going to be three hours or are those just going to be, they're not timed I think now.
02:51:07.84 Jonathon Goldman now.

Both sides of time, if council approves these regulations, would be three hours during school.
02:51:14.97 Thomas Theodores Right. So that'll learn to lean to more turnover, Linda, than people kind of dump and run some cars in these two streets. Yeah, and they take the bus. So that'll lean to more turnover for the dog park. But also, you wouldn't lose seven spaces on that side because you can't park right next to that sharp turn. You'd probably have some, maybe it's five or six spaces that are lost on that side of the street. So, but you know, it's better to be safe than, and we actually promised the community when we did this lease that we were going to do things like this to make it safe for everybody coming and going out of this area.
02:51:37.95 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
02:51:55.01 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) Any other questions?

Any questions from the public?

All right, bringing it back up here for comments.

you
02:52:03.08 Unknown Thank you.
02:52:04.48 Thomas Theodores Just make a motion to adopt resolution regulating parking along the portions of Coloma Street, Ebtide Avenue, and the 600 block of Saucedor Boulevard. I'll second it.
02:52:12.39 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) How's that?
02:52:15.02 Ray Withy All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Thank you, Jonathan.
02:52:16.29 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) All right.
02:52:19.50 Ray Withy Okay, city manager information.
02:52:22.82 Adam Politzer Thank you.

I'm still waiting for the controversy on that one that he promised.
02:52:26.63 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
02:52:26.65 Adam Politzer Thank you.
02:52:26.70 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
02:52:26.74 Adam Politzer Thank you.
02:52:26.77 Joanne Goldschmidt .
02:52:29.13 Adam Politzer Just a handful of quick items and we will breeze through these hopefully. Harrison Park, most of you I hope have driven by lately. Public Works Director and I walked up there the other day and it looked great, which means that we're getting close to the ribbon cutting ceremony.

And we...
02:52:52.86 Ray Withy Deputy Mayor Yancey.
02:52:54.02 Adam Politzer is a good thing.
02:52:54.19 Ray Withy Thank you.
02:52:54.29 Adam Politzer For Mary Ann Sears Park.

So we will be looking, at one point we were thinking about next weekend, not this weekend, but next weekend. So that's what we're going to start shooting for. So we'll put something out in the currents, send something out in the MarinScope IJ, and look for that Saturday the 15th for the ribbon cutting ceremony out at that part. That's tentative, obviously we need to check with all the interested parties.

including the Lions Club.

and then moved for there, but we wanted it on a weekend.

when parents and children were available.

And then we'll go forward We still have a few minor Um, so the park will be We'll do the ribbon cutting ceremony and then we'll probably put up some temporary barriers.

or planters or a variety of things.

to Don't limit any unnecessary falling from the adults. I'm sure that the kids will climb on everything and jump off of everything regardless to what we put out there, but we need to put some handrails up. Those are the last items that will be remaining.
02:54:08.00 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) I have a quick question, Adam. Could we do a spot check on who's available on the 15th? I'm just curious because I'm not available. And if I can clarify why that
02:54:15.46 Adam Politzer And if I can clarify why that date was picked was that Mary Ann Sears, her birthday is on June 10th. And so the community thought that it would be nice to try to pick a weekend next to that date. We can't obviously do it by this weekend. So as soon as we were able to do it was the following weekend.

So a lot of that came from community interest to have the dedication close to her birthday.
02:54:43.59 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Okay, am I the only one up here who can't make it?

Everyone else can make it. Okay, never mind. I regret I won't be able to be there. And I really, that's too bad. I'll visit it on my own.
02:54:59.86 Adam Politzer the Special event season is upon us, kicking off with the Caledonia Street Fair. It's nice to see and hear that we had good attendance from the council and from the community.

Unfortunately, the weather was not terrific.

and I think it impacted the length of stay from folks coming out there and really enjoying themselves for the majority of the day.

and taking cover at some point. But really well coordinated and executed event and some really nice feedback from the artists and from the community groups.

And so we'll look to expand and make improvements for next year.

If you have suggestions, recommendations, I am sure that Mike and Erin or the Park and Rec Commission would love to hear them.

because that's how we make our events better, by getting public feedback and continuing to improve.

Blues and Jazz by the Bay kicked off this Friday and they in fact had a perfect night which resulted in perfect attendance and good times had by all that showed up. So hopefully that's a trend to come for perfect Friday night weather as we go forward. We are now, you know, in the time zone. A month from tonight is Fourth of July.

And that also means that we need you folks to be available to be in the parade.

and we need your help in securing convertibles.

or vehicles or for the mayor who has walked with his dogs. Making sure that we know what your intentions are and whatever you can do to help secure a vehicle helps Aaron and Mike and the committee.

that tries to make the parade Thank you.

you know, spectacular and fun and funky and all the things that we love about it. You know, so you have a month to help with Aaron. If you have no source of transportation and need our help, we will find you a vehicle and you will be riding in some level of style. The vice mayor was in the thing at least one year, where others have ridden in various fancy cars. But the collective team effort will help and we trust that you will help us help you.
02:57:16.16 Greg (from BCRS) The vice mayor.

Billy's
02:57:32.54 Adam Politzer The library, a big celebration obviously took place this weekend as part of their soft grand opening and grand opening celebration.

month.

And tonight, again, formally recognizing the efforts of all But they have really taken off. They've had a lot of interesting and creative and well-attended events.

And I think they are really trying to broaden, and as Council Member Theodorus mentioned, turning it into a bit of a community center.

where they can have Um, jazz or poetry readings or special speakers a variety of of fun activities in there for our entire community. So when you get the city's magazine when that comes out or when you visit the library's website, take a look at what they have to offer. I think you'll be impressed and we hope that you also Promote it.

because the more people that are spreading the word, the social media, ROUTE HELPS. THEY DO HAVE FACEBOOK AND THEY DO TWITTER.

um, And so they are out there trying to promote their activities, but obviously every effort helps promote our special gem that we have here in City Hall. Worth noting, and it's on the future agenda items for next meeting on the 18th, that we're going to be recognizing and celebrating Todd Teachout's retirement.

Erin also sent out an email to the staff and to the council that we're going to be having a special party for him on the 20th.

and hopefully folks can to attend that.

For the council members that have been here for a while, and those that have served on other commissions in the past You'll recognize what an unsung hero, Todd Teachout, has been.

And these last four years, he's actually been able to accomplish things that I think he wanted to do the entire time that that he had worked for the city.

but didn't have the resources or the support behind him to move projects forward. And so I think he really is kind of going out like other great heroes that go out on top. You know, that he's going to be able to look back and say, I was a part of that. I did that. I helped institute that.

I left Andy and staff and good position to carry on the work that he's done with Pat Guasco.

as a sewer coordinator has also been really important. We all know about Pat, but we really don't know about Todd's interaction with Pat, which has been important.

our relationship with the Sassuril.

WE'RE IN CITY SANITARY DISTRICT.

was well established before either I got here or before we started the sewer committee.

Um, I'm excited and pleased that Jonathan is bringing this item forward to recognize him.

and ask you folks between now and then to think about what he has brought to the city. So when you have your opportunity to share your thoughts, that we're not just putting you on the spot that night and saying, okay, whatever comes to mind.

and encourage you to reach out to him.

Um, a little worried about retiring. You know, this is what he's done, and I think for many people, that get to this moment in time, it's bittersweet, it's exciting because you're going on to a but it's also a bit scary. And, uh, and being of the unsung hero that he is, I really want us to put some energy behind this and thank him for all the great work that he has done.

With that said, we have three meetings remaining. Yes.
03:01:20.09 Adam Politzer It's a casual event, but you've got a formal limitation from Aaron, so there's in your inbox somewhere.
03:01:27.92 Unknown I mean,
03:01:29.82 Adam Politzer Tuxedo and yes.
03:01:29.92 Unknown Tuxedo and yes. It wasn't a A-T-T-O. If you don't have an invitation, you can't get in..
03:01:31.73 Ray Withy I'm sorry. I hate to see that.
03:01:34.19 Adam Politzer And if you don't have an invitation, you can't get in.
03:01:40.52 Adam Politzer There'll be speeches and it will be We've been invited. We definitely, you have been invited and we would like you to
03:01:44.88 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) We've been invited.

4.30 to 6. Where is it again, Adam? Here?

Is it here?
03:01:53.40 Adam Politzer here in the Edgewater Room, downstairs.
03:01:54.78 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Okay, great.
03:01:59.45 Adam Politzer that.

Those are all good ideas.
03:02:04.03 Unknown Yes.

I'm going to put gold, paint it gold, spray paint.

Thank you.
03:02:08.89 Adam Politzer There may be a few fun items in there. The last thing I wanted to mention is that we have three meetings remaining until our summer break in August. So if there are...
03:02:08.94 Unknown Thank you.

There may be a few fun items.
03:02:20.35 Adam Politzer important things that you want us to discuss prior to that.

Please make sure that either the mayor or myself or the city clerk get those emails, uh, and especially if they are not items that you've already raised. If you've already raised them, then we have them.

Thank you.

But if there's new things or things that have come up recently that you'd like more information on, then we can present that prior to going on to break.

That concludes my report. Happy to answer any of your questions.
03:02:54.60 Unknown Any questions? Questions from public? Comments?

Okay, future agenda items.
03:03:03.53 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
03:03:06.91 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Mr. Mayor, I do. So I'll bring it up again. The Arts Commission, two committees that I've been pushing for several meetings over the course of three years or more. The Bike Committee, which I'm excited is happening, and the Arts Commission, which has not yet happened. So I just want to, again, reiterate the importance of establishing an Arts Commission. And, um, I'm excited to be here.
03:03:39.90 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) We're Sausalito. We're known for artists worldwide. We need an arts commission.
03:03:46.97 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) And Debbie, how many applicants do we have? I don't want to put you on the spot. Yeah, no worries. I'll never mind.
03:03:55.62 Ray Withy I can assume that you have a member as well. Any public comments?

Okay, next item, council member committee.
03:04:03.98 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) Any one, anybody want to make a committee report?
03:04:08.31 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Mr. Mayor, I will say that the Coast Guard Auxiliary, we had a great event with Radio Disney last Friday, and we handed out 150 free life jackets in under two hours to children and coloring books on boating safety, and it was just a blast. Yeah.

It was great. So I think we got the message out. So I just wanted to share that.
03:04:41.27 Thomas Theodores No, just a future agenda. Actually, you know, we should probably formalize or discuss policy about how council members represent to outside agencies whether they're formal representatives or not formal representatives, and that's a personal opinion versus an opinion of the city council. So that's something we should maybe talk about at some point.
03:05:07.21 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) So, Council Member Leon, if you're referring to the Coast Guard Auxiliary. Okay, I just wanted to clarify, because I was just talking in general about National Safe Boating Week.

Okay, thank you. Just wanted to clarify. Because National Safe Boating Week was just something that was just um, Nationwide.
03:05:31.00 Unknown (Councilmember) Is that something that we should have a report on or? Because I agree with that as a future agenda item. I think I would certainly welcome the clarification.
03:05:35.03 Unknown I'm sorry.

Yeah.
03:05:39.98 Unknown Yes, I agree.

I agree.

We'll get it on. We'll get it on the agenda right. I agree. Others agree? Okay.
03:05:53.24 Unknown Thank you.

that came around with the crisis.

Thank you.
03:06:00.14 Ray Withy Other reports of significance?

The only thing I'd like to mention to you is if you go downtown now, We were having a problem with the taxi cabs packing all over the place.

So we kind of buttoned it up, so to speak.

The way it's set up now is...

They are allowed to park on El Fortel, until one o'clock in the afternoon. After one o'clock, what we do is we send them down.
03:06:29.96 Unknown Thank you.
03:06:31.06 Ray Withy Thank you.
03:06:31.99 Unknown Thank you.
03:06:33.54 Ray Withy if they were in a meeting, yes. But we allow them to actually utilize it.
03:06:38.15 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) Thank you.
03:06:39.72 Ray Withy Well, actually we allow them to utilize for now the red zone there rather than take apart.

Anchor Street, which is right next to B of A.

that becomes, it transfers up until one o'clock. That is the place where the shuttles and the buses pass.
03:06:59.36 Unknown Thank you. Thank you.
03:07:00.39 Ray Withy All right, after 1 o'clock, that becomes the new catching stand. So now you can have eight cabs pop there.

I'm not.

Thank you.

you
03:07:08.52 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Mr. Mayor, that used to be resident parking. I mean, visitor parking, yes. Well, it was yellow zone, but also people could park there on meter and run to the ATM and...

No, but we've reduced parking again downtown. I don't support that for the record.
03:07:30.78 Unknown What do you support? Hold on, hold on, hold on.
03:07:34.44 Thomas Theodores The regulations, he's not changing anything. These are the parking, it's already been set.
03:07:38.03 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Well, two years ago we had resident parking there.
03:07:41.44 Thomas Theodores And we changed it by a vote of the council.
03:07:43.79 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) I did not support that.

you
03:07:45.59 Thomas Theodores That's nice. So the other report significance is we had somebody come, I forget how many meetings ago, since he reminded me about the cabs. And since you are our representative to, as the Marin Managers, whatever that, what's the committee? Yeah.
03:07:46.83 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) So.
03:07:47.10 Unknown (possibly Mayor or Chair) Thank you.
03:08:04.34 Thomas Theodores JPA. The GSA, right. Is that it is becoming, even the, you know, when I ride the airport, it is a challenge. And it is, they beg these guys to come pick people up at Spencer, you know. And most of the time, you can't get a cab there, period. Which you'll come down and they'll be sitting right in front of the B of A because they don't want to drive up the hill.

I don't know how the licensing process works because we don't get involved in that. That's all through the city managers group. But there has to be, if you want to, I would encourage you to maybe pursue that a little bit more that now that they're more free-floating cabs like these other cab companies that are now coming down and parking in front of like the silver cab. I don't even know how these guys are licensed. It's just something we deal with. We don't need to go into it, but maybe you could press a few buttons on that point because they're supposed to be providing a level of service, right?
03:08:52.00 Jonathon Goldman It's just that's all.
03:08:52.67 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
03:08:56.27 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
03:08:56.28 Jonathon Goldman Thank you.
03:09:03.02 Ray Withy What?

is, by the way, just so you know, is that now if you are a licensed cab in Marin, you can go in any city. The only reason why they're coming down to Sausalito is, because we're the only city, and I really mean it, not even, even San Rafael, there is no cab business. They're all coming down here, because this is where the business is, because of the tourism. This is where you get the runs to San Francisco. This is where you make it, this is where they are. So this is why we have now made steps to create taxi stands and they're only allowed, they're not allowed to go inside the parking lot one, they're not allowed to solicit, they're not allowed to go and solicit down on El Portal.
03:09:50.15 Unknown But maybe you could press the key button on that.
03:09:52.70 Ray Withy Thank you.
03:09:52.72 Adam Politzer Yeah, let me just jump in and say probably more discussion than necessary right now.

of me.

You know, a good opportunity to ask the executive director or Paul Berlant, and Jeff Rawls, who's responsible for the taxis to actually come and talk to us, the challenge being one of the 11 members of the JPA.

is that no one else has this issue.

So there's
03:10:21.98 Unknown Thank you.

Thank you.

you Thank you.
03:10:23.93 Adam Politzer All right.
03:10:24.07 Unknown Thank you.
03:10:27.65 Adam Politzer Right, because they get off the freeway and then they drive to some But let's have a discussion. Let's have, you know, let's bring this forward as an actual item so we can have this discussion. But, you know, we're very limited on what the JPE actually,
03:10:35.69 Unknown I think we're getting into it.
03:10:44.20 Adam Politzer has authority over.

And we have given our authority to the JPA because we don't have the staff to manage and enforce and chase taxicabs. So that's something worth looking at from a broader perspective. What's their view of the taxicab Um, regulations and what's there.

role on it and then what are the opportunities and options for future consideration.

Thank you, man.
03:11:14.46 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Okay.

I just have a comment about the Caledonia Street Fair. It was fun.
03:11:15.57 Joanne Goldschmidt Yeah.
03:11:15.96 Adam Politzer you
03:11:20.94 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) It was great and that wind was crazy.

I mean, it was craziness. I can't remember a time when they were hit with that kind of wind, you know. But I'll tell you, despite the wind, it was a lot of fun. I mean, the crafts there are really original. You know, it's not like you go there and you see things that you see at all the other street fairs. And we had the local folks there too. So I just want to say that, you know, a big thanks for pulling that together. It was really, really, really good.

Okay.
03:11:58.13 Jonathon Goldman Okay, move to adjourn.
03:11:58.18 Councilmember Pfeiffer (not in known list) Thank you.
03:12:00.42 Joanne Goldschmidt Thank you.
03:12:02.01 Jonathon Goldman I'm in favor.
03:12:02.99 Joanne Goldschmidt Hi.