| Time | Speaker | Text |
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| 00:00:17.60 | Mayor Whitney | Well, good evening everybody and Welcome to... the Sausalito City Council meeting for January 14th, 2014. Um, Debbie, could we have a roll call, please? |
| 00:00:40.19 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Councilmember Winer. |
| 00:00:42.64 | Councilmember Leon | President, |
| 00:00:42.94 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Councilmember Leon? |
| 00:00:42.98 | Councilmember Leon | Thank you. Here, Leon. |
| 00:00:45.16 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Vice Mayor Theodorus? Present. And Mayor Whitney? |
| 00:00:46.34 | Councilmember Leon | Thank you. |
| 00:00:46.44 | Mayor Whitney | present. |
| 00:00:46.77 | Councilmember Leon | Thank you. |
| 00:00:48.55 | Mayor Whitney | here. And so to the pledge, as it is the first meeting of the year, and my first council meeting as mayor, it would actually be my honor to lead you in the pledge this evening. |
| 00:01:03.85 | Unknown | So. |
| 00:01:08.19 | Mayor Whitney | I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. and to the Republic for which it stands. One Nation. under God, and into this soul. with liberty and justice for all. |
| 00:01:29.28 | Mayor Whitney | So we entered into a closed session earlier to discuss conference with real property negotiation connection with MLK. Is there any public comments on closed session items? |
| 00:01:56.18 | Peter Romanowski | Could you refresh us briefly what the agenda was on the MLK, just in a nutshell? |
| 00:02:03.49 | Mayor Whitney | This was a negotiation, confidential negotiation, around real property terms. |
| 00:02:10.21 | Peter Romanowski | for a new home school. |
| 00:02:11.44 | Mayor Whitney | with the new village school. |
| 00:02:14.49 | Peter Romanowski | To me, it sounds like mafia money laundering for profit. But that's just. |
| 00:02:20.68 | Unknown | Uh... Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:02:21.85 | Peter Romanowski | Remember Mayor Gumby, when he had to deal with us, he went out and sent the fire department and burned down the glass. But we don't do things like that no more. But anyways, MLK property, that is a good place for public housing, low income public housing. That's why you get it. You know, Galilee Harbor has turned into low income public housing, which should have been a marina area. And that's a mild and common. Let's get some low income public housing and not on the waterfront, Not destroying our waterfront, but put it up in MLK. Unless you give us barges and arcs to live on, that would be cool. That's my job. God bless you. |
| 00:03:00.98 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. Is there any other public comment on closed session items? See you then. Let's move on to the approval of the agenda. Do I have a motion? So I'll move. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? |
| 00:03:17.28 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:03:21.70 | Mayor Whitney | The next agenda item is for, public communications, And this is time for the City Council to hear from citizens regarding matters that are not on the agenda. And as you know, except in very limited situations, state law precludes the council for taking any action or engaging in any substantive discussions. So, is there any members of the public who would like to use this opportunity to make any comments? So. |
| 00:04:06.88 | Mayor Whitney | Would you please state your name? |
| 00:04:12.48 | Unknown | and I'm here to talk about Sally Stanford and what she does for the community. Sally Stanford and what the vessel does for the community. Before Sally Stanford, we had crowding at the launch ramp, the only public launch ramp in Sausalito, I have Boats were blocking people from putting their boats in the launch ramp, There was crowding at low tide. Our $2,000 Avons are in the mud. We have pregnant women out there that has to actually climb off the docks and into the mud to drag their skiffs to the water And it's kind of like a double-edged sword. because like one side of the dock, you're either in the mud at the end of the day after you get done working or You have the tie off the side where your Avon isn't in the mud, but there's nails sticking out of the dock. and you get ticketed, so it's like, Excuse my French, you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. And Now that Sally Sanford's there, people can launch their boats. People can tie off. People can visit the town and not have to worry about a 15 minute limit. I went downtown the other day and I talked to all the store owners in town and none of Tourism that comes from water to shore is limited to 15 minutes just like the people. You know, we have a growing community out there that is full of beautiful people that work, pay taxes, and vote. and We are limited. It's like there's hardly anywhere that we can park without putting ourselves at risk or the people at risk. And... Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:06:02.34 | Unknown | I have pictures here for you to show you what we're kind of dealing with here. That's the Sally Stanford herself. And if you notice, there's a nice shop park there. We chained it to deal with sabotage. Just like all good things, we have bad apples that sabotage it. That's what we deal with right there. |
| 00:06:08.35 | Unknown | the, |
| 00:06:21.04 | Unknown | And that's not quite low tide. That's what we deal with at night. This is, this is, this is, you know, Our property gets damaged, we get hurt. I saw a girl the other day that fell in the mud. Her man was trying to save her, the banjo player. They were covered in mud. She cut her arm open because there's glass in front of the bar. I mean, this is where we park every single day. This is where your tourists park. This is where cruisers come in the park to enjoy your restaurants, This is what we did to to make it better for everybody. And it's a lot more nicer and we don't have to worry about the mud. And a lot of people are using it and it's a beautiful thing. And it did cost nobody nothing, just a bunch of community people that pulled together to make it a better thing. Thank you. |
| 00:07:15.46 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 00:07:20.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:07:21.45 | Joshua Gift | My name's Joshua Gift. I was one of the people that helped build the dock. I volunteered my time because I saw an issue that needed to be addressed, and that was shore side access. As Crystal stated, the access is wonderful at high tide. We can gain access to any point on the docks. We don't need to worry about a thing. A lot of the photographs that you are familiar with have been taken at mid or high tide. A lot of the situations that we deal with during low tide involve, as you know, there's a bar in front of the Turney Street dock. And people get drunk. They break the glass. They're naturally going to want to remove the evidence, so they toss it in the water. And as the tide goes down, maybe one of our inflatables goes over it and gets pierced. That's expensive. Then the tide comes back up and the inflatable no longer floats its motor and that gets dumped. That's even more expensive. Basically what lower some of our own expenses. The dock was built from recycled parts from two other docks and was put together very well. Thank you. |
| 00:08:52.94 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:08:57.94 | Unknown | Good evening. My name is Ana Garcia and I am not an anchor out. I am here on behalf of the Anchor Out, I live on a boat, I live docked. I live on an end dock a side tie where I am visually looking at the public document. And what I have seen have been anchor out people going to work every day. I see this. They row in on their skiffs, rowing, kayaking, however they can to get this done. And my understanding is that there is not enough space for them. And one of the issues is an American Disabilities Association compliant doc. Well, my thinking is that as a registered nurse, I took care of disabled people and homeless and jailed people. And you are preventing disabled people from going to their boats and out on the anchorage and using the dock. Not all disabilities and all people with disabilities need a wheelchair. Some of them need to go to their boats. Some of them need the peace and quiet and whatever lifestyle they choose to not live on the street or in the cold. They have a floating home. I'm here on their behalf because I see them. I've never seen any trouble, fighting, or argument. On the contrary, I have seen nothing but kindness, helpfulness, respect, and these people have only asked and done everything, including building vessel that can be used to go around the law, not against the law, but around the law. They've done everything they can. I've observed it. And What I see is that to give them respect and to give justice and create justice. There is no justice, we create it. And by that we're creating people who want to go to work, who go to land, buy food, supplies, gasoline, do laundry, whatever their needs are to go to work, They need access. And if only disability ADA is saying no because we can't get a wheelchair on there, I'm sure 20 of them will show up and carry that person on their boat. I just speak on their behalf, I'm not one of them, but I have a lot of respect for them and I see them and observe them and I hope that you take into consideration that they are people, citizens, whether they pay low income or not, they are citizens of Sausalito. Thank you. |
| 00:11:52.58 | Ms. D. Stover | Good evening. Um... |
| 00:11:55.46 | Mayor Whitney | Could you state your name, please? |
| 00:11:56.63 | Ms. D. Stover | Ms. D. Stover. |
| 00:11:58.62 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 00:11:59.08 | Ms. D. Stover | I live roughly 700 yards off the Army Corps of Engineers where the boats go to die. That's another story. But since I've been living on the water and I happen to own my own boat and my mooring, I've been trying to help clean up the mess out there. Since I've been out there, I've actually helped stop several boats from either ending up in downtown Sausalito or ending up in somebody's living room or patio in Belvedere. |
| 00:12:39.73 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:12:40.92 | Ms. D. Stover | And It's a real, it can get really fun at the public dock. Until that was added, trying to get in there, you'd have a better time trying to get in downtown San Francisco during the baseball game. |
| 00:12:58.83 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:13:00.70 | Ms. D. Stover | It was that crowded. And now that the dock is there, This actually places to park. I had an incident this evening, as a matter of fact, that the launch for Parker Davings. was taking up the whole center of the Rams. What they were doing, I don't know. Probably don't want to know, but... |
| 00:13:25.56 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:13:26.98 | Ms. D. Stover | If I had had the extension to tie off to, I would have ran out of gas before I could go get some. I was actually able to swing my boat around and catch the end of the dock extension park and go to Bridgeway and get gas. Other than that, I would have ran out. because I didn't know how long they were gonna be there. There was no way to get to the regular public government. So I'm just, we need it. And I've been approached by several people that visit out there. from around the world, and they want to know where they can park. to enjoy downtown. So it's definitely a benefit. And if more can be done, that's even better. Maybe some dredging so you can totally use both sides even at low tide. |
| 00:14:26.26 | Unknown | So, |
| 00:14:30.24 | Ms. D. Stover | Because I've gotten stuck over there. An 18-foot boat isn't easy to move when it's stuck in the mud. And you've got to wait two or three hours for the tide to come back in so you can get it out. So That's about all I got. |
| 00:14:50.15 | John Flevin | Thank you. |
| 00:15:01.21 | Brian Schreier | Hi, my name is Brian Schreier. I scout in Richardson Bay as well. Standing up here right now, because Crystal ran out of time, She made quite an effort to go around and collect signatures in support of keeping that dock there for us to have access not only to the bay, but to the shore. I'd like to give these to you guys. |
| 00:15:22.15 | Peter Romanowski | Yes. |
| 00:15:22.71 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 00:15:24.82 | Peter Romanowski | How many on there? 80? 100? 80? |
| 00:15:29.12 | Brian Schreier | 82 signatures she collected in support of keeping access to the bay available for everybody, not just the anchor outs, but the rest of the community uses that as well. Since that thing's been out there, there's been a real sense of pride in the community too. I haven't seen any trash there since that thing's been hooked up. Before that was there, people would occasionally come empty out their dinghy, leave it laying there until somebody decided that they just, gotten sick of seeing it and taking the initiative to pick it up. I haven't noticed that since that's been out there. I think it's a benefit to the community. You guys are dealing with some money issues to be able to build a new one or to be able to fix the one in front of Wellington's. The community solved that money issue problem for you. They just built something themselves and they put it there. It's not really hurting anybody. If we could at least keep that until a permanent solution is come up with, I mean, I think that's all anybody's really asking for right here. Thanks. |
| 00:16:24.59 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 00:16:31.30 | Scott Diamond | My name is Scott Diamond and we did have a conversation with Adam and he suggested that we apply for a temporary structure permit, which Seems like a good idea, but at this point in time, I don't really want to change our legal position that this is actually a vessel and not a temporary structure. So anyway... SWAG's intention was not to start the new waterfront wars or to butt heads with city officials, embarrass anybody, or to imply anyone in the city government is not doing a good job. SWAG's intention is to reframe the conversation about waterfront issues and to point out and help cure waterfront problems. I request that the city council calls a ceasefire on the SSLA Stanford until the council can have a meeting with the public about it. Right now the police are ticketing Sally to the tune of $100 a day and Public Works has threatened to remove Sally calling her an encroachment. Is this the best path to go down? To go to court before we even have a conversation? Sally is a vessel at the city dock that has no laws governing it. It seems to me it's taking more time not to talk about it than it will take to have the conversation. Will the council please instruct Omet to get Sally Stanford on the agenda? I have a written proposal for Adam as he requested that basically says Omit, the proposals are to put Omit, Omit put Sally Stanford on the city council agenda to determine if it poses any true problem. SWAG contends the vessel is simply that, a legal California registered vessel in public access waters temporarily tied to the city dock. The second proposal would be that omit puts Turning Street dock parking law proposal on the city agenda. So I will give that to the board. Adam, and I hope that you can move this forward. Thank you. |
| 00:18:52.16 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 00:19:01.03 | Dennis Webb | Hi, good evening everybody. My name is Dennis Webb. I'm a resident and a building contractor here in Sausalito. A few things. Our building department at Sausalito, I don't know if you guys are aware of, but that 90% of building contractors in Sausalito do not pull permits. Why? Well, because it's too dysfunctional at the building department and it's too hard to get a permit. So they opt to not get a permit and do it basically illegally. Well, there's a few issues here. Last month, I went and fixed two projects that were unpermitted that we actually got permitted, and it was a nightmare. It was a fire hazard. Right off the bat, buildings could have blown up and set half of Sausalito on fire just because of the electrical work alone. So, solution. is we need to do something immediately. the safety of Sausalito and for the revenue of Sausalito. It's a bad business move. making something so difficult to do because people won't shop at your store. the list will steal. That's kind of what it is with contracting without without getting the permit. The other day I came down to get a permit for an 86-year-old lady on Glen Drive. She had a post on a deck that was rotted, needs replacement. And so I went down to get it. They said it's going to have to go to outside plan check. I said, well, a 4x4 post on a deck, there's calculations that are kind of standard. protocol that are in the UBC book. that says what a 4x4 is rated for, and we just want to replace it so she can go out on her deck. So what would happen is, They told me I need to create a whole set of as-built drawings And it will have to go to outside plan check. So. We called two architects locally in town and an outside source called as-built incorporated to draw up blueprints just for this post. It would cost $3,200 to drop a set of plans So this lady, could have her post done. Now, however, the job is a $600 job, but just the plans that wants to have is over $3,000. Now she's on a fixed income. She can't afford to do it. So what do we do? So it's almost borderline elder abuse if you think about it. How can she fix her debt? So she can't go out on her debt because she can't afford to provide a full set of blueprints, which is basically It's just wrong. Out of all the building departments in Bay Area, I've worked in most of them. This isn't over the counter. It's an application. Remove and replace post. Boom. If you have to show a picture, you hand the lady $200 and you get a permit. Here it's not like that. So now what it creates is these contractors just going to hell with Sausalito. I'm going to do it because the old lady wants to go out on her deck. instead of being inside all day. So we really need some help. I've mentioned this to a pretty much everyone in this room and nothings A real easy solution is we need an engineer here one day a week to approve over-the-counter items, or twice a week. Thank you. |
| 00:22:04.70 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 00:22:05.95 | Dennis Webb | Bye. |
| 00:22:06.04 | Unknown | . Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. you |
| 00:22:12.06 | Unknown | Amen. |
| 00:22:13.49 | Peter Glazer | Hello. Before I speak, I'll make one comment on what he said. One simple solution with the old lady example is to maybe have a waiver process for those on fixed income or who can't afford it. but I'm here to speak for the Anchor Outs. My name's Peter Glazer. I've lived in this town for 34 years. My first job was working for Herb doing hand detailing at his old Shell station over here. I'm anchored out. Uh... Access is somewhat good, but it is definitely needed more there at Turney Street. I come into Galilee myself, and that's crowded. I mean, we can't take any more people there. Schoonmacher is always crowded when I come in there, and the few times I've come in at Turney, That's crowded. I haven't had to deal with the low tides and stuff because I only come in there once in a while, but I do wanna echo the sentiment to work out something so that that dock can stay or something can be in its place. With the rest of my three minutes, I just wanted to remind you guys that we're the only anchorage on the west coast that does not have any kind of shower facilities, either coin operated or free. One of the few anchorages in America or even in the world for that matter that doesn't have some kind of shower facilities. And that said, thank you for allowing me the time. |
| 00:23:38.31 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:23:44.52 | Mayor Whitney | I'm going to go. Doug. |
| 00:23:45.82 | Douglas Storms | Thank you. Debbie, can you touch the fishes back up and don't have them in the slide board where they show an automatic stop it? My name is Douglas Storms. I would like to discuss the SS Sally Stanford. My hope is that I understand that you work with the constraints of the Brown Act and during open discussions you're not allowed to respond or to take action but there are exceptions to that. I was reading yesterday that there are exceptions to that when it deals with public safety. And I'm here to share with you that public access, it deals with the public safety. There's basically four access points in Sausalito. The first one is Turney Street, and you've seen pictures there on Turney Street. The existing public dock needs to be repaired. It is a hazard. Crystal had mentioned about the nail sticking out and I have pictures up here and I'll show them. There's some cleats that are missing and there's or that are defective that have been pulled out that haven't been replaced and the ramp is in a serious state of it needs help where the ramp is attached on to the landing. There's four bolts that hold it on. There's two that are missing. One's halfway out, so there's really only one rusty 5 1⁄8 inch bolt. that is holding a 2,000 pound ram. And so it's a lawsuit waiting to happen. and it needs to be addressed. I know I've talked with Jonathan, and they have gone down there and looked at it, but the repair apparently wasn't quite properly made, or there's some confusion there. Um, So I just wanted to, there it is right there at low tide. You're stranded, you can't get out. At night, if it's 30 degrees, it's low tide, you can't get out to your boat. So you're stuck on shore until you can get out in freezing weather. This is Galilee Harbor, and you can see the yellow dinghy suspended up on the boat. |
| 00:26:07.58 | Unknown | you |
| 00:26:07.63 | Unknown | you |
| 00:26:07.72 | Unknown | And... |
| 00:26:12.71 | Douglas Storms | on the piling there, do you see that little spike? Right here. Well, you don't see that in high tide. but trust me, you experience it when you come back and your Avon is, is taken out, is punctured. So though, well, there's another staff, different staff. Now here's Schoonmaker, the third access point. |
| 00:26:31.60 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 00:26:35.36 | Douglas Storms | So there's the riprap. You see that where the green dinghy is suspended up in the air? And when it gets full, like what Peter's talking about, It gets crawling over two rows of boats, and it needs to be addressed. Please help the public, help yourselves. |
| 00:26:55.73 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. Thank you, Doug. |
| 00:27:05.18 | Mayor Whitney | Are there any more... Alice. |
| 00:27:08.06 | Unknown | it's Meryl. So I'm really glad I came down here tonight because I think this is really I've kind of got both sides, the hill and the water, and I know there's always been divisions, but this really needs to get fixed. And I haven't been aware of how bad it is because I don't have to use it, and I don't go over there. I've known about the... the addition, the Sally Stanford edition, and knew that there was controversy about it, but I can... We... I don't know, I know laws are awful these days and about lawsuits and all that, but my goodness, these guys have done a very good job. I've watched it being built, because it's been being built right next to where I walk all the time at Pelican, and it's very well done. They don't want to fall off of it. You know, it needs to not be dragged away right now until there's a conversation, until there's some kind of a mediating situation where these guys can have access. It's true that most towns have access and are happy to have it and have a lot. We have so many boats out there now, cruisers. So this isn't something that needs to be addressed, and maybe more than the fisherman's pier. You know, that's just a touristy place almost. This is real-life people needing this. |
| 00:28:41.42 | Unknown | you |
| 00:28:49.52 | Robert Lockhart | Hi, my name is Robert Lockhart, I'm an anchor. I'm a Messiah seraphist for 21 years and a window walk through 20. The licensing here You need a license, but you're still not considered a resident. and therefore I'm not sure how the tax base is done or anything, it's just kind of weird. But also the docs, You're talking about... It's a scoole sticking up out of the water, so when you fall on it, If they died quickly, you would be A good thing. I mean, we figured it out, but... That's all I'm saying. |
| 00:29:38.30 | Jeff Jacobs | Hello, council and mayor. and anchor outs and non-anchor outs and sailors temporarily at anchor. I'm really happy that the Sausalito Waterfront Action Group brought this doc. We just state your name. My name is Jeff Jacobs. Thanks, Jeff. Chase. |
| 00:29:52.24 | Unknown | Why don't we just state your name? My name is Jeff Jacobs. |
| 00:29:55.60 | Jeff Jacobs | Thank you. |
| 00:30:00.26 | Jeff Jacobs | Thank you, Peter. All of us are made in the image of God. Does it not matter how much money we have or how many taxes we pay? And there's 100 or so souls Out on the anchorage. and these people deserve not just respect, but rights, civil rights. So what we're asking now, is that this be on the agenda for the next council meeting so we can discuss this and we can get an answer back from you. Okay, so we'll know in a week or two if that will be so. So the Sausalito Waterfront Action Group is about actions. And we're not asking for any money. |
| 00:30:39.05 | Unknown | . |
| 00:30:39.96 | Jeff Jacobs | We're not asking for any special favors or anything that everybody else doesn't get. What we're asking for is equal rights. Thank you. |
| 00:30:52.50 | Adam Krivacek | Thank you. |
| 00:31:00.97 | Unknown | you you Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:31:13.88 | Mayor Whitney | Okay, I think you've already had the chance, sir. |
| 00:31:18.29 | Peter Romanowski | I have different issues. Oh, fair enough. I have different issues. Fair enough. |
| 00:31:19.47 | Mayor Whitney | Oh, fair enough. Fair enough. |
| 00:31:21.95 | Peter Romanowski | Yeah, come on, I've been coming here 30 years. |
| 00:31:22.61 | Mayor Whitney | Come on. |
| 00:31:26.13 | Peter Romanowski | Anyways, um... You're much more experienced than me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My name is Peter Romanowski, but actually it's Sokolovsky. My father's a Russian defector from Soviet socialism, and I am the chaplain of the Anchorage. You know, I'm not saying I'm everybody's chaplain, but I'm a chaplain of the Anchorage. I'm the oldest anchor out here. There's no anchor out here that's been older than me, and I'm the only one that's competent. You know, it hasn't been declared competent. Thank you. anchorage. I'm the oldest anchor out here. There's no anchor out here that's been older than me, and I'm the only one that's competent. It hasn't been declared competent. I had to go to court to prove I was sane. You know, and... So... I actually can defend myself. Thanks, folks. I want to say that it's not your fault. We're living in a... being a minister, I must say we are living in a fallen society. Everybody is a crook if they don't know Jesus Christ. That's the bottom line. And we know the various horses, you know, |
| 00:31:27.13 | Mayor Whitney | You're much more experienced than me. Thank you. |
| 00:31:30.27 | Brian Schreier | Bye. |
| 00:31:30.28 | Mayor Whitney | Bye. |
| 00:31:30.34 | Brian Schreier | you |
| 00:31:30.50 | Mayor Whitney | My name is |
| 00:31:31.23 | Unknown | you |
| 00:32:04.44 | Robert Lockhart | I'm not. |
| 00:32:04.49 | Unknown | I'll see you next time. |
| 00:32:04.51 | Robert Lockhart | I'm not. |
| 00:32:04.79 | Unknown | Actually. I'm going to... Thank you. I'm, |
| 00:32:05.76 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:32:05.79 | Unknown | I'm just going to... Folks, look, look, look, |
| 00:32:08.52 | Russ Irwin | I, I, |
| 00:32:16.91 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:32:16.96 | Unknown | you |
| 00:32:17.01 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:32:25.50 | Peter Romanowski | was a terrorist and burned down the dry dogs using the fire, Saucy-o Fire Department, which never apologized. And they named the park after a terrorist. That fire was so big it could be seen from outer space. But this is just how things work in Sausage. You know, I went to Redwood High. I got here when I was 60, in 1964. I've been here 50 years. I married the richest, most powerful man in the world, Ernest Nile Kenton Book at the time. And he told me when I married his daughter, you're not going to get nothing. And he kept his word till the day he died. And so now I've been hankered out for 30 years. And I don't mind it. but can we please have a place to tie up Well, we're not going to get ticketed and hassled by the cops all the time and the rookies. I hold the record for being handcuffed and chained and body bag, and so it's Leo. And I'm the minister, and I hold the record. I love you from both. Not even Bo has been handcuffed, chained. by homosexual lesbian cops, you know? I mean, come on, I'm a Christian, I don't believe in that stuff. No, Peter. Oh, oh, oh, oh, a legend, a legend, a legend. Peter? I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I can't accuse anybody. |
| 00:33:33.86 | Jeff Jacobs | No. Hi. |
| 00:33:39.43 | Mayor Whitney | Peter. |
| 00:33:39.97 | Joshua Gift | I'm sorry. |
| 00:33:40.39 | Unknown | Sorry. |
| 00:33:42.40 | Mayor Whitney | Excuse me, sir. Could we get to the point? The point is |
| 00:33:44.74 | Peter Romanowski | . |
| 00:33:48.46 | Peter Romanowski | The point is that everything starts in Marin County. United Nations, the mountain bike, the first pop club, which Barack Obama closed down, the Jews for Jesus movement. I was the leader of the, of the hippies for Jesus movement, you know, here. Everything starts in Marin County. The first cocktail we moved in Fairfax. Now everything starts. I propose that this be the first town in America to disarm the police. No more stun guns, billy clubs, or pistols in Dunphy Park over nonviolent terrorist threats. Now, if we can do that, we will send a message to the whole world. It's... Hey, hey, hey, come on. until all of us are armed. until all of us can carry arms. I don't think the police need to. |
| 00:34:39.44 | Unknown | I mean. |
| 00:34:43.03 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. Excuse me. Before actually you proceed, I'd like to request that the audience just chill out and just let's keep the noise down. Number one, so that people can hear and so that we can just get through this. Thank you. |
| 00:35:02.88 | Kimberly Sitter | Thank you gentlemen for being here tonight. |
| 00:35:05.24 | Mayor Whitney | And could you, sorry. |
| 00:35:07.16 | Kimberly Sitter | My name is Kimberly Sitter. I'm actually a San Francisco State student. I'm also an anchor out. And this is actually one of the ways where I can pay my way through college. And I'm very happy the Anchorage is here. Actually, cleaning up the docks would be an opportunity for Sausalito because if we can welcome more tourists as well as yachters around the world, We can definitely have more bolts hauled out here. We can have more people paying to actually buy rations at Molly Stone's. We can also make it more of a family recreation area, and we can restore Sausalito's sailing nostalgia. And so rather than thinking of repairing some of the dinghy docks for the anchor outs, we can see it as an asset for Saucyuta's future and finance rather than bulldozing areas and putting in condos just for small owners to profit. So that's all I have to say about it. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:35:59.98 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 00:35:60.00 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:36:00.03 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 00:36:00.76 | Kimberly Sitter | Thank you. |
| 00:36:04.74 | Mayor Whitney | And with that, thank you. These comments are heard by all of us. Right, thank you. Before we move on to the next agenda item, which is item 3A, I forgot to mention at the very beginning that, unfortunately, Council Member Pfeiffer is sick this evening, and so that's why she's unable to attend. So we wish her a speedy recovery. Let's move on now to item 3A, which is the minutes of our last meeting. Do I have a motion to approve? So moved. |
| 00:36:51.23 | Unknown | or any |
| 00:36:52.21 | Mayor Whitney | you Second. All in favor? Aye. Motion carries. Item four is the consent calendar and looking for, is there any public comments on the consent calendar items? And if not, I'm looking for a motion to approve the consent calendar. Thank you. |
| 00:37:17.86 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:37:17.88 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 00:37:17.98 | Unknown | I'll make that motion but Debbie I would ask that you put I don't know if we still put this up on the website for each board and commission we used to a long time ago the expiries of |
| 00:37:31.90 | Unknown | Well, you can look into it. Thank you. |
| 00:37:33.77 | Unknown | I noticed that... . |
| 00:37:35.43 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:37:39.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:37:40.52 | Unknown | Okay. All right. With that, I'll make a motion to, it was just a comment, excuse me, to approve the consent calendar items for ABC. Second. |
| 00:37:52.27 | Mayor Whitney | All in favor? Aye. Aye. Thank you. |
| 00:37:53.75 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:37:53.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:37:59.89 | Mayor Whitney | So with that, we move on to item 5A, which is on the appeal of the Bridgeway Public Pier at the 500 block of Bridgeway. With that, I welcome Lily to give one of her usual outstanding presentations. |
| 00:38:45.52 | Unknown | Thank you, Mr. Mayor, council members. Happy New Year. |
| 00:38:52.43 | Unknown | The item tonight is on the appeal of the Bridgeway Public Pier, next door to the Trident Restaurant. the agenda for the topics tonight, we'll first go through some of the background on the pier. Then we'll move on to the appeal grounds. And then staff will provide some options for design modification. We'll go over community feedback received on the Open City Hall website and at the OMINT meeting. and then we'll provide a recommendation for the council's consideration. In terms of background, the original permit request was for a design review permit and a nonconformity permit to rebuild the public pier on city property next door to the Trident restaurant. As you can see in some of the photograph on this screen, the remnants of the old pier still exist. The pier was used from approximately 1936 until 2001, when a storm destroyed the pier. Last year, there was grant funding that was secured by the city and accepted by the council to rebuild the pier. and that grant funding had a deadline date of construction by the end of this month, but staff is negotiating an extension of that grant right now. In October on the 16th, the Planning Commission considered a permit request to rebuild the pier. The design that the Commission reviewed at that time is here on the screen. And at that time, the majority of the pier that would be over water would need to be raised by 3 1⁄2 feet to comply with federal and city regulations regarding construction in the floodplain zone. Therefore, a two-level peer was required. And in order to access that upper level, a switchback ramp at that time was proposed. The materials proposed included yellow cedar decking and horizontal thin stainless steel cabling for railings with a wood cap. The Planning Commission at that meeting directed staff to return with a resolution of denial. The following week, the staff brought the project to the council to advise the council as the property owner of the Planning Commission's direction. Directly before that council meeting, staff had a conversation with the engineer who's working on the project, who indicated that there was a possibility that the pier could be lowered from that three-and-a-half-foot elevation. Staff at the time in front of the council provided a list of options to proceed with the CARE project, and the council directed staff to return to the Planning Commission with a modified design, which was lowered to the extent possible. Staff worked with the project engineer to develop an alternative design option. And staff, as I mentioned, is in discussions with the grant administrator to extend the deadline. And we're looking at a construction timeline to be done by the end of May right now with that extension. |
| 00:42:26.40 | Unknown | At the November 6th meeting, the Planning Commission reviewed the revised design, which was the lowered pier. and also a much simpler ramp to access up here. |
| 00:42:47.04 | Unknown | On November 6th, per the council direction, staff requested the commission provide design direction on that revised pier. and allow staff to use that design direction to come back with additional plans for the council to the commission to consider. The Commission decided at that meeting to deny the project on a 4-0 vote without providing design direction. And on November 15th, the Public Works Director filed an appeal of the Planning Commission decision. at the November 19th council meeting. you The council directed staff to schedule an evening public meeting with the OMIC committee to elicit community feedback. and also schedule the appeal hearing for this meeting this evening. |
| 00:43:43.57 | Unknown | On December 9th, an open city hall topic was created with a survey regarding the public peer, and that survey was released through the Currents, the open city hall distribution list, staff's own distribution list that we've been growing over the course of this project, and we also posted it on the city's website. That survey closed on January 5th, and on that date, The survey had 194 people who visited the site. and 44 people participated in that survey. On December 12th, there was a public meeting of OMIT in the evening here at City Hall, and approximately 20 people attended that meeting. So moving on to the Akil portion. which was filed by the Public Works Director. There are six grounds that are listed in the field. and the grounds state that the six findings that were made by the Planning Commission in denying the project can in fact be made favorably. So the first is design review permit finding B. which states that the proposed architecture and site design complements the surrounding neighborhood. and or district by either maintaining the prevailing design character of the neighborhood or introducing a distinctive and creative solution which takes advantage of the unique of the site and contributes to the design diversity of Sausalito. The Planning Commission, in their denial, found that the project's cluttered, modern, Aesthetic and materials are not consistent with the prevailing design character of the neighborhood and adjacent buildings which are structures in the downtown historic district. The appellant in their appeal indicates that the design for the pier project was intended to match as closely as possible the previously existing pier, which was constructed in the 1930s. And, however, due to city code requirements, building code requirements, and federal requirements, that mandate. the access requirements and also the elevation requirements of the peer. The other elements of the pier, such as the wood surfacing and the wood railing components, were designed to echo the adjacent commercial properties at Trident and Skomas, while at the same time maximizing the views through the railings. The Commission at their meeting on November 6th had an opportunity to consider a more streamlined appear where the switchback ramp was eliminated and the height was reduced by one foot. Therefore, the Council should determine whether the Planning Commission's finding in this case was made. in light of the evidence, and if the council agrees that finding B can be favorably made, the council should uphold the appeal. and approve the permits for the peer. If the council concludes that this finding cannot be favorably made, the council should deny the appeal and affirm the Planning Commission's decision. |
| 00:47:01.68 | Unknown | Design Review Permit Finding C states that the proposed project is consistent with the general scale of structures and buildings in the surrounding neighborhood and or districts The Planning Commission, in their denial of the pier, found that the replacement pier at an elevation of 3 1⁄2 feet taller than the existing pier is out of scale with structures and buildings in the surrounding neighborhood. The system of ramps and stairs to access the elevated portion of the pier is cluttered and discordant with the structures in the surrounding district. the appellant in their appeal. has indicated that the Planning Commission again had an opportunity at a second public hearing to consider a modified peer design which was intended to address the comments received at the initial public hearing and per the direction of the City Council. The modified pier design lowered the deck and the railing height for a total height increase above the Bridgeway sidewalk of two and a half feet. Additionally, the design simplified that access ramp, eliminating the switchback and just having that one, that singular access ramp, which reduces the number of overlapping handrails. Additionally, the replacement pier is the same size as the previously existing pier and is within the general scale of nearby boardwalks at Trident and Skomas. |
| 00:48:24.67 | Unknown | here. |
| 00:48:31.05 | Unknown | Again, the council should consider if you agree that the finding C can be favorably made, in which case you would uphold the appeal and approve the permits. And if you conclude that finding C cannot be made, then you would deny the appeal. and affirm the Planning Commission decision. |
| 00:48:54.76 | Unknown | Designer view permit finding D. states that the proposed project is consistent The proposed project has been located and designed to minimize obstruction of public views and primary views from private property. The Planning Commission found that compounded by the raised height of the deck of the pier, the cumulative layered effect of the multiple railings will obstruct public views. of Richardson's Bay. San Francisco Bay, Angel Island, the East Bay, and San Francisco from the Bridgeway sidewalk. The appellant has indicated in their appeal that the necessary finding requires that public and private view impacts are minimized, and the finding does not require that the project have an absolute impact. no view impacts whatsoever. again, due to the project's railing design with as thin as possible railings. but still meeting building code requirements. The appellant states that the project has been, has in fact been designed to minimize interference with primary views as well as public views from the Bridgeway sidewalk. Additionally, the rehabilitated peer will provide will restore to the public the experience of walking out over the water to get a different view and perspective. and will additionally provide free views to the public that are not accessible to the general public except for those who are dining at Trident and Skomas. The council should, again, determine whether this finding can be favorably made or not. |
| 00:50:45.34 | Unknown | Moving on to the three nonconformity permit findings. Finding B states that the existing nonconforming use and or structure has not resulted and a notable negative impact or nuisance to the surrounding properties and district, such as excessive parking demand, traffic, noise, view obstruction, et cetera. The Planning Commission found that The use may cause the public to congregate on the pier, which may cause cumulative negative obstruction of public views of Richardson's Bay, San Francisco Bay, Angel Island, the East Bay, and San Francisco from the Bridgeway sidewalk. The smell of caught fish and bait may also be an attractive nuisance, which will not contribute to the social vitality of the district. The appellant has indicated in their appeal that the restoration of the pier will lessen congestion on the Bridgeway sidewalk when compared to the existing condition, which is clearly a public benefit. They also indicate that the entirety of the Bridgeway sidewalk from the Trident South to Richardson Street provides unobstructed views of San Francisco, the waterfront, Downtown San Francisco, Treasure Island, Alcatraz, and portions of the East Bay. And therefore, relative to the length of the Bridgeway Shoreline Walk, the area where the again be able to gather as relatively small. And the applicant considers that it's a great benefit to restore the single location off the sidewalk for the public to gather and enjoy the view, to take photographs and rest, rather than not provide that opportunity. As noted in the public record, evidence has not been brought to the city's attention regarding a notable negative impact or nuisance to the surrounding properties and zoning district regarding the use of the pier and or the peer structure. Again, the council should determine whether or not the Planning Commission made this finding properly in light of the evidence. Nonconformity Permit Finding C states that the nonconforming use or structure is not incompatible with the general character of the surrounding neighborhood or district. The Planning Commission found that the replacement pier at an elevation of 3 1⁄2 feet taller than the existing pier is out of scale and not compatible with the general character of structures and buildings in the surrounding neighborhood, and the system of ramps and stairs to access the elevated portion of the pier is cluttered and discordant with the structures in the surrounding district. Again, the Planning Commission had, the appellant notes that the Planning Commission had a second opportunity to review a lower Pierre with a more simplified ramp. Again, the replacement pier is the same size as the pier that existed prior to 2001, and in general scale and compatible with nearby boardwalks at Trident and Skomas. Also, as noted in the public record, it's staff's assertion that the continued use of the pier and the structure are compatible with the surrounding neighborhood, which consists of public open space, shoreline access, and commercial uses. Again, the council should determine whether or not this finding was properly made. The last finding, finding nonconformity permit, finding D. states that if the application is for a nonconforming use, the nonconforming use will contribute to the social and economic vitality of the district or will otherwise benefit the public health, safety, and welfare. For this finding, the Planning Commission found that the use may cause the public to congregate on the pier. which may cause the cumulative negative instructions of public views of Richardson's Bay, San Francisco Bay, Angel Island, the East Bay. in San Francisco from the Bridgeway sidewalk. And the smell of caught fish and bait may also be an attractive nuisance, which will not contribute to the social vitality of the district. The appellant stated in their appeal that the portion of the bridgeway sidewalk that may be instructed by the public using the pier. is very small compared to the length of the sidewalk that goes from the Trident down to Richardson Street, as I previously stated. And also, as noted in the public record, the staff has asserted that these will contribute to the social vitality of the district by providing enhanced public access to this location. And again, the council should determine if this finding was made properly. |
| 00:55:40.25 | Unknown | Moving on to design options. The project denied by the Planning Commission had an upper walking surface level three and a half feet above the bridgeway sidewalk. And as previously indicated, that upper level may be lowered by one foot to a maximum of two and a half feet above the bridgeway sidewalk. The rendering of the pier from December of last year includes a narrow ramp to access the upper level without a stair access to that upper level. It was closed off in that rendering. |
| 00:56:18.81 | Unknown | The project engineer has since provided alternative renderings in the pier with a variety of access ways to that upper level. As noted in the staff report, Access Alternative 1 is a narrow ramp with a wide adjacent staircase. And Access Alternative 2 is a wide ramp with an adjacent narrow staircase. And there's a schematic of both on the screen along with a rendering of both. |
| 00:56:53.96 | Unknown | For the railings, the railings types identified to date include the, what's called in the stack report as alternative one, which are those vertical steel posts, or alternative two, which are the very thin horizontal cables with the wood cap. |
| 00:57:17.99 | Unknown | Of those who took the open city hall surveys, 61% of participants preferred a rebuilt pier, even one that was elevated two to two and a half feet above the bridgeway sidewalk. and accessible. 27% of participants indicated that they did not prefer a rebuilt peer. given those constraints or otherwise. Approximately 20 people attended the OMIP meeting, and seven of those individuals also participated on forum in the open city hall survey. And on forum was an option where participants could include their name associated with their response. There are 32 of those people who included their name, and 12 people who chose to not include their name and therefore were anonymous. of the 16 people who participated in the straw poll at the OMIT meeting regarding if the pier should be rebuilt or not. 69 percent, or 11 people, indicated that they would not like to see the pier rebuilt. given the elevation and accessibility requirements. and 31% or five people indicated that they preferred a rebuilt pier, even one that was elevated two to two and a half feet above the bridgeway sidewalk. |
| 00:58:46.20 | Unknown | Based on the open city hall survey responses, 58% of participants preferred the horizontal cable railings, 49% preferred the benches with backs, 43% preferred fishing to be allowed on the pier, and overwhelmingly, 75% preferred no bicycles or bicycle parking on the pier. |
| 00:59:13.33 | Unknown | At the regarding community feedback on access at the time of the OMAP meeting and the open city hall survey, staff did not have a rendering of the different access options with the staircase adjacent to the ramp. but we do now and we've showed them to you this evening. and staff would recommend access Alternative 1, which is the narrow ramp and the wide stair, which are on the screen here. |
| 00:59:43.57 | Unknown | Using the community input received at the OMIT meeting and open city hall, staff has prepared a resolution which upholds the appeal. and approves the peer project and has incorporated the following conditions into that draft resolution. The council, if it chooses to uphold the appeal, may modify these conditions. So the first is, and these are all outlined in the staff report, the first is that the upper level of the pier must be no greater than 2 1⁄2 feet in height. We were outing the railings. would be the thin horizontal stainless steel cabling. with the Woodcap. The access to the upper pier would be the narrow ramp with the adjacent staircase. There would be a consultation with BCDC to determine the location, the appropriate location and number of benches with backs. Fishing would be allowed and signage would be posted on the pier to warn fishers not to cast towards the Trident restaurant. and bikes would not be allowed on the pier, and signage would be required to be installed, prohibiting bicycles and bicycle parking on the pier. |
| 01:01:02.33 | Unknown | With that, staff is recommending the council evaluate the planning commission's determination. as well as the pelance grounds for repeal, and adopt the resolution which upholds the appeal and approves the design review permit and the nonconformity permit subject to the conditions in the resolution. The council may also provide specific direction on the items listed here in bullets on the screen regarding the railing, the access, the use, and the furniture on the pier. And that concludes my staff report, and I'm available for any questions you might have. |
| 01:01:39.84 | Mayor Whitney | Thanks a lot, Lilly. So. Do we have any questions for Lily or Any of the other stuff. |
| 01:01:54.32 | Unknown | on the cost of the I'm not. of the peer. Can you give, I'd like to get the, current estimates of what it will cost, what the grant would be, and what we have sunk costs so far and the likelihood of whether we possibly may go over budget. Like that, all the costing address. multiple questions. |
| 01:02:19.53 | Unknown | So I don't have the exact costs with me, but the Department of Public Works has been consulted regarding the cost. Based on their past experience, they believe that there's enough funding in the grant to cover the construction, but it's not known until the project goes to a final bid, at which time the council would look at that bid for final approval. but I don't have the exact numbers. |
| 01:02:51.14 | Unknown | Do we have a grant number? |
| 01:02:52.71 | Unknown | It's $160,000. Okay. |
| 01:03:00.05 | Jonathon Goldman | Mr. Mayor, members of the council, Jonathan Goldman, public works director. Just to remind you, the grant was applied for using the construction of the wooden boardwalk and railing that at that time had recently been completed as part of the bulkhead replacement project as a unit cost estimate for what it would cost to rebuild the pier. So I'm confident that that estimate, which is based on actual costs, prevailing wages, and the same kinds of materials, was sufficiently accurate for purposes of applying for the grant, and is sufficiently accurate for where we are at this point in the process. |
| 01:03:51.82 | Unknown | Lily, can you give us a little color on the status of negotiations with the grantor? |
| 01:03:58.66 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. The extension has been requested and we are anticipating that it will be granted with an extension date of the end of May for construction to be completed. And we are fairly confident. |
| 01:04:31.12 | Unknown | Uh, the... this should be obvious, but I... This ramp, as proposed, would be fully ADA compliant. And would the construction of the ramp be trigger any ADA compliance issues with any other part of the adjacent waterfront? |
| 01:04:50.56 | Unknown | The... |
| 01:04:54.56 | Unknown | that With regards to the bridgeway shoreline and access to that shoreline walkway, the ADA transition plan will address compliance, what needs to be done to ensure access to that shoreline |
| 01:05:12.28 | Adam Politzer | I can just add some color to that. Regardless to what we do to the pier, that lower walkway through the ADA transition plan will have to be addressed by the city. |
| 01:05:23.06 | Unknown | but it won't, it's not being proposed as part of it. Well, it's not being proposed as part of this at this moment. Correct. |
| 01:05:40.33 | Russ Irwin | Okay. |
| 01:05:40.85 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. Well, thank you very much, Lily, Jonathan. We are going to open this up now for public comment. And I know a lot of you have been to the various planning commissions, city council meeting before, the OME meeting. So, Could I have a rough show of hands? How many people want to comment on this? Okay. So the only part of our meeting, we had a very energetic crowd here cheering and clapping, and I think that was okay. There was only one point of view they were trying to get across. That's not true now. And so if you could be respectful that the person speaking after you might have a different point of view, perhaps we could keep the cheering to a minimum and let everybody have their say. So, with that, Um, Let's open public comment and If you'd just like to come up and if you want to line up along the side, that would be great. But there isn't that many of you, so. up. you |
| 01:07:01.85 | Bob Freeman | . |
| 01:07:01.93 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 01:07:01.97 | Bob Freeman | . |
| 01:07:02.15 | Mayor Whitney | you |
| 01:07:02.24 | Bob Freeman | Thank you. Fools rush in and get the best seats. My name is Bob Freeman, the owner of the Trident Restaurant. I've spoken with, well, good evening. Mayor and Councilmembers again today. of I had a chance to speak with some of you earlier. I've been here a few times in this, although I've missed the last few meetings. I thought I'd let it rest. But I have mixed emotions about this. I've been blamed for the pier looking the way it looks for all these years. They think it's mine, so I'm happy to see it repaired, made better, or some improvement in some way. But I'm still back to the same deal. If there is fishing allowed, the windows will be broken. I can guarantee it. I'll make book on it. And unless you put the signs of no fishing in 14 different languages, there's going to be somebody who said I didn't get the word. So my opinion is that the The improvement would go forward. I would like to see that. I'm all in favor. I see the money there. I see the improvement. But I see fishing as the biggest hazard. I think it will draw people from out of town, not as many from town. They have the whole waterfront to fish from, but they'll come to the pier. They'll park the car, feed the meter, leave the fish heads behind for the raccoons and the rats. |
| 01:08:13.84 | Unknown | And they have the whole thing. |
| 01:08:24.67 | Bob Freeman | The pier is outdated. It was in its day. We didn't have the lower area to fish from, and so it was necessary. Now it's not. So if it was done like the one at Spinnaker, where people go out and can sit there or go out and look, it's an observation pier. It's well done. That has signs on it saying no fishing. That is the way I think that it should be handled. As far as I talked to Jonathan earlier today, he said there's no plan to sprinkle the pier. My property is sprinklered for fire protection. If there's a fire there, which there were before, it was destroyed in 01, there was a fire there. If there's a fire, then it spreads to me. That's a liability, which I don't like. I'm more than happy to have my sprinkler system extended over to there. We could work that out if the thing does go forward. But in the meantime, I think it should be sprinklered if it does go forward. I hate to be in the middle of this one. I'd like to see it happen, but I truly, I've heard somebody say plexiglass over the windows and tell people they shouldn't do it, You know, people speed on Bridgeway, people run over people. You aren't allowed to. The law says you can't, but in fact, it will happen. So it's a major problem for me. Thank you very much. |
| 01:09:48.29 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you, Bob. |
| 01:09:52.69 | Mayor Whitney | John. |
| 01:09:54.01 | John Flevin | I'm John Flevin, I'm a Sausaludal resident. This is honestly the strangest appellate proceeding I've ever witnessed. I mean, the findings that were related on the screen were from the first Planning Commission meeting. The rebuttal by the appellant talks about, basically talks about the second submission as being things that the Planning Commission should have looked at. They did look at it at their second meeting, and they voted for nothing against it. So this is really a strange thing. It's also strange that the city is not only the applicant, but it's also the joke. So this is a very, very strange appellate proceeding. This proceeding also glosses over The primary reason is the Planning Commission denied it. One of them was that it is within your power to grant an invariance so that you could do a one-level peer. I know there's been all comments about FEMA wouldn't do that, but your own statute ordinance provides for variances. This is under a half acre. It all applies. You also did, they talked in great length about the schedule and the budget. And there were a lot of questions that the city at that point, the first time around, could not answer. The city appears hellbent. I'm doing a two level here. despite Not a single pro vote from the Planning Commission on two tries And a lot, a lot of resident resistance. You all must know something that we don't know. But I would encourage you to reconsider the variance, make this a one level pier, and make a lot of this turbulence, resistance, and frustration go away. |
| 01:12:02.04 | David Zweig | Hello, my name is David Zweig. I live at 535 Bridgeway, which is across the street from the pier, a couple houses to the south. I've been before the council once before. I also went to the planning commission. I think there's now been six public meetings on this subject, and I hope this is the last. I hope this council is able to make a decision, even if's not the way I want to go and bring it to a close because frankly I don't, to me it's an easy issue. You have a lot of tough issues in this city but this just isn't one of them. It's a small pier. It's a public benefit. There is grant money available. It should be the no-brainer. I have kids, I'm out on the bay across the street from my house basically every weekend in the summertime when there's fish out there. We catch all sorts of fish, big fish, small fish, 100 pound stingrays and rock fish, three inches long. We catch leopard sharks, we catch a lot of rock crab. 95% of the fish we throw back. Once in a while, we'll eat something. but for kids, for families, There's not a lot to do in Sausalito. You know, after a while, the high-priced restaurants, the high-priced art galleries, you know, that's for the tourists, for us who live here and who have families. We need something to do. I think this is just a small little crumb that you could throw to us residents in the area to give us and our families someplace to go and someplace to do. It's difficult fishing off the sidewalk. It's crowded. Casting, people get in the way, they get hit by weights. I understand the issue with the window, but there's public safety also. big crowds form, and I think the police can attest to this. Once in a while they come and sort of clear it out, 100 people can gather when my 10 year old son has a big fish on the line and he's trying to pull it in. It a big public spectacle and traffic actually stops. It's like the fireworks on New Year's Eve when people stop in the center lane and get out to gawk. And this isn't just like one time. This happens every weekend in the summer. It's a regular event. So we need a place to go to get off that sidewalk. I think there are protections to protect the windows. I understand in the old days the next door property owner put horizontal poles out so that if you cast near his building your line would get snagged on those poles and people just wouldn't cast in that direction. Even so, maybe one day, A window will break. but denying the residents and the public this opportunity because a window might break would not be fair and I urge you Don't send it to the Planning Commission again. That's a death sentence. It will never happen. don't have another meeting I know this is my last I urge you to take the staff's recommendation and vote on this tonight thank you |
| 01:15:30.55 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 01:15:40.15 | Daniel Merriam | Hello, my name is Daniel Merriam. I live at 565 Bridgeway Boulevard, pretty much across the street from the pier. |
| 01:15:40.50 | Unknown | Uh, |
| 01:15:50.29 | Daniel Merriam | I, uh... I'm in favor of a peer, and I think it's an asset, but I'm not in favor of losing a major asset of the city, and that's the view from the sidewalk And I think that the opinions are split, and there may be a majority that would be in favor of a peer. The survey, the online survey, was very difficult to submit our response to. We tried repeatedly from different devices, and I talked to a number of other people who were opposed to the peer who had trouble getting their opinions posted. I eventually did get mine posted, and I can tell you that there are a lot more people that were trying to get their opinions into that survey. They did not succeed. I still think that you should approach the pier with the idea that you could build it at street level, but you might need to use reinforced concrete. And in the long haul, you'll be better off with a stronger pier. And when you rebuild the waterfront and you have a new seawall or you raise the street, it should all tie together. This design is just kind of a band-aid or a quick quick fix that builds over an old pier that should be torn down. That first section of the pier is not really in good shape. So I urge you, when you're making your final decisions, to just really consider, one, what you're losing, and two, the quality of what you're building. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:17:23.03 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. Adam |
| 01:17:25.94 | Adam Krivacek | Good evening, Adam Krivacek for the Ulima Street. I would like to provide only one bit of information. In an urban setting, on an urban sidewalk, a person walks 200 feet in a minute. The restaurant itself is about 70 feet long. This pier is probably 20 feet wide. So you can calculate for how many seconds you will lose your value for him. We are talking about this view as one of the major reasons why it should be or should not be built or should it be built the way it was designed. I think the speed at which you walk pushing a baby carriage is 200 feet a minute. Just think about it. Thank you. |
| 01:18:25.73 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 01:18:33.88 | Dennis Webb | Dennis Webb, resident, 71 Glen. A few things. I don't believe there was any preliminary budgeting for the pier. as far as talking to a few contractors that do marine construction and just getting, there's a rough gut feeling what this thing's going to cost. My gut feeling, and I'm not a Marine, contractor, but I was talking to one, they can run close to a million dollars. I don't know if Sausalito has that money, but they're called change orders. Once they start, We're going to find out, oh, the wooden piers aren't going to be able to hold the weight. We found dry rod over here, and it's going to be a runaway train. But here we're going to spend $750,000 on the road. in other people's opinions, maybe close to a million dollars when I think you guys only have 150,000 budgeted. The preliminary rendering that they've done already I think is over $35,000. which could have been done by an art student for free, just to get a concept. And then once the concept is approved, then it could go to architectural. So it's just, I feel it's frivolous spending And that's all of our money. and it should be thrown out the window. So I feel a repair permit should be done with a variance and go back out at one level. They've done it all over the Bay, in San Francisco waterfront, and it's basically a repair permit with a variance. And that's what I feel that we should, you guys should vote on today, and not a two-story platform, because it does look like we're having a high dive contest here in Sausalito with no high divers. |
| 01:20:24.39 | Jan Johnson | Hi, Jan Johnson, 301 2nd Street. I'm not a fan of the elevated new pier. |
| 01:20:24.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:20:24.97 | Dennis Webb | Thank you. |
| 01:20:31.41 | Jan Johnson | Thank you. I would think it would be great to have the same height it currently has. I don't understand why the city would willingly decrease views, thereby decreasing property values and decreasing the appeal of all the businesses and residents that run from basically 555 Bridgeway to 599 Bridgeway who are negatively affected. That's not just the property owners, it's the business owners and the residents I'm also a member of the sustainability Commission so one concern I have is I have not seen anything that says no smoking signs will be posted by saucolittle ordinance smoking is not allowed on waterfront property or waterfront parts so it needs to be posted for no smoking. There's no visibility in the plans for closed cigarette containers for the smokers who are fishermen who should be stubbing out when they go up there, nor are there composting, recycling, or garbage cans designed on that. That's going to increase the view impact when you add them and negatively impact the neighborhood. I walk that lower route and bridgeway pretty much every day, sometimes twice a day. And I can tell you that fishermen leave behind beer cans and change. fish things, all kinds of nylon line, multiple cigarettes, all of which are going to go right into the bay, increasing pollution. Since this grant is from pollution control, I would think that everything should be done to try to decrease the negative impact on the bay from the structure. And perhaps this money should be used for pollution control for our community, rather than something that's going to add to it. Oh, and multiple friends have told me when they tried to log on to do negative comments on this project, the website wouldn't take it. |
| 01:22:23.58 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 01:22:24.00 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:22:37.13 | Mike Monsef | I'm Mike Monsef, I'm a resident and business owner here. I've been to quite a few meetings of this one. Basically I try to be a fair-minded person and I'm not one to any group, it's my own |
| 01:22:46.34 | Russ Irwin | Thank you. |
| 01:22:46.38 | Unknown | you |
| 01:22:46.46 | Russ Irwin | Thank you. |
| 01:23:01.33 | Mike Monsef | In some of these meetings that I went to, I tried to analyze the opposition that was made to this by a few. Most of it appeared as being a self-interest issue. And the community was totally out of it. I was a planning commissioner twice and there were very many people there to talk in favor of it. Obviously, if you want to start working on design, we can work on it till the health visits and come up with all the ideas we have to do. All right. except a couple of previous speakers they're talking about. We are trying to be dictated by regulation of FEMA. With all the disasters we have, Sandy is still waiting for the FEMA to do something. New Orleans is trying to do the FEMA to do something. This pier is historic. It has been here over 50 years, half a century. and people used it. Our generation, a generation before, they enjoyed using that. I think We have to... I'm surprised that I don't see very many historical people to come here and historical buff that we have in South Slido. I was a member of that HLB. Defend the idea. I don't understand why we have to comply to FEMA regulation. Over 50 years this period existed. One water came in, Check it out. I wouldn't mind to spend this money to repair the existing pier and let it go for another 50 years. And if it goes down by that time, probably FEMA doesn't exist anymore. And we end up to have another female, another regulation. Please be sensible. As the other gentleman said, you guys are in a position to make a decision. The community wants this one. Don't try to deny it based on Obviously, I don't like smoking, I don't like bike, I don't like fishing. it's superior for public to enjoy. View doesn't make that much impact in that area. when you put it in the same level. |
| 01:25:40.68 | Mike Monsef | Thank you, I got a lot to say. |
| 01:25:50.65 | Julie Warren | Julie Warren, 1707 Bridgeway. Gosh. in 93 when we started working on the pier committee, which was to rebuild this pier so kids could fish there again as I had when I was a child. Yes, it is a historic property, and yes, I am considered a piece of history, but never mind. This all started, and the pier committee, I can see the smiles. The big plan to have a new place for the ferries to come in and tourist land. Anyway. The simple idea of just doing the variance Putting the peer back there at one level and doing that, limiting the times of days perhaps when one can cast or just not disallowing casting. But yes, you know, the little details to work out of recycling, garbage, all those things that as a parks commissioner we always had fun with. HLB and history, yes, I am a historian, and yes, I have been involved over the years. And it is worth preserving. It was here. And in terms of the view corridor it creates, it creates a larger view corridor than it takes away. and the pleasure it gives to children and to families I think is a good statement as well. Anyway, the decision is in your court, City Council, I just hope you vote to restore that peer. Thank you. |
| 01:27:39.24 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:27:41.64 | Russ Irwin | Russ Irwin, 509 Johnson. I think it's clear that the community wants the peer. The question before the council is not whether or not to have a peer. It's what design. You're in a pretty unique position to sort of get whatever design you like. You don't have to be boxed into yes or no. Let's get a design we like, build it for the community and have a new peer. Thank you. |
| 01:28:16.65 | Peter Romanowski | Don't worry, I'll stay on point. Thanks for recognizing me last night. to get to the subject. I remember that Peter Romanowski, I actually lived in Belvedere, the richest island in But I can't tie up there. Isn't that funny? Anyways, I remember that pier was 64 when I got here. I was 16 when I got here. I was 64. I'm 64 now. And it's 2014. That's 50 years. I've never seen a crowd congregate on that pier. The restaurant there, somebody told me who was fishing there when it pierced for, you know, back in the 60s, said that the window has never been broken on the Trident. And the owner of the Trident, I think you should make him produce some evidence that that window has never been broken. And you can put a... maybe once in 50 years, if that at all. But if a sign was there, no overhead casting, like most peers, like Santa Monica Pier, no overhead casting. Just underhead casting and Of course, make them suffer. Make them put glass and sash so if a window gets broken, it's easy to repair. Make them suffer. I mean, the food there is terrible. Have you eaten that recently? I mean, if they would just produce, get a good cook, and find all the illegal aliens, they'd have enough money to... Peter, stay on point. Stay on point. Stay on point. Okay, that's all I got to say. But everything is against the law now. Everything has become against the law. Against the law to do everything. It's a crime to pee in public. I had a friend of mine get arrested for it. It's a crime to sleep in public. Everything is a crime. There's nothing left. It's a crime to fish off that pier, off the end of a behind thing. |
| 01:29:46.09 | Unknown | Peter, members, stay on point. Stay on point, Peter. |
| 01:30:10.73 | Peter Romanowski | Everything is a crime. It's driving everybody crazy. And we have the highest poverty rate, in America, California has the highest poverty rate because we're run by socialist Democrats. And they screw everything. That's all I'm gonna say. We need a place for the children. I haven't fished with my son for 30 years, 30 years. And what a nice thing to fish. What a memory to have, fish with your children. Of course, there are no children in the party here, but still, we can hope, you know, thank you. We can have. |
| 01:30:43.81 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 01:30:54.05 | Jim Irving | Jim Irving, Mayor of Council Members. I figured I'd jump into the fray here. As you may or may not know, this site was the site of the original fire station in Sausalito, built in 1915. and served as a city's fire station until 1931 when it was moved across the street where the building is still standing. We would like to see the pier rebuilt there with some type of plaque denoting the history of that site. I think that would be a great thing. Saucenito prides itself on being a waterfront community and to not have a fishing pier in It's illogical to me. Lastly, I'd like to say that I caught my first fish on that pier in 1962. So I've been to you by two years. As a young child, I learned to fish on that pier and it has great memories for me and I think that having the ability for kids these days to learn those same memories would be |
| 01:32:01.07 | Mayor Whitney | Thanks, Jim. Is there anybody else who would like to comment? Alice, no? No. Okay. |
| 01:32:12.97 | Unknown | So I ask a question of whether it's Lily or Jonathan Goldman. Can you refresh our memories as to the whole FEMA requirement and our ability just to give ourselves a variance to that? |
| 01:32:30.32 | Unknown | I'm going to like snap and take that one. |
| 01:32:34.32 | Jonathon Goldman | The requirement is a city code requirement. and it's derived from the Code of Federal Regulations Um, And those regulations are for the purpose of Um, making sure that people who own property or live in flood-prone areas in Sausalito have access to the National Flood Insurance Program, have access to flood insurance. Um, And there is a variance procedure that's described in our ordinance, and that variance procedure, you know, flows from the federal regulations as well. And in this instance, staff has looked at that procedure and I don't think that a variance, the findings for a variance can be made by this body. Um, But the procedure is there, and obviously that Um. information is available to the public and some members of the public think that because there's a procedure that means that the council can automatically grant itself a variance. Thank you. But again, in my judgment, the findings for a variance from those regulations cannot be made. So from my perspective, the decision that the city council has the privilege of making this evening is whether the pier will be reconstructed or not, not at what elevation it will be reconstructed. |
| 01:34:21.53 | Mayor Whitney | Okay. Who would like to Go first. |
| 01:34:27.21 | Unknown | you |
| 01:34:29.07 | Mayor Whitney | Yeah. So we are closing the public. There's nobody else who'd like to talk, so we've closed the public comment. |
| 01:34:41.22 | Mayor Whitney | Comment tone. |
| 01:34:46.52 | Councilmember Leon | Well... You know, one of the things that we all in this community have always prided on is the idea of preserve our town. while at one time this pier was here. It, it, it, it, it, Nature. took it away from this community. I really feel that We should go ahead with his peer. look at the options that If we find out that it's not safe for fishing, then we put no fishing on it. If we feel that it's not safe, for safety reasons, very honestly, and we take it apart. right now the way it sits. It's just post up there. And we're going to have to do something with that anyway. You can't leave it like that. Tonight, sir. I, um, I think that All the things that... I like the idea of a plaque showing the history of it. But once again, I really feel that You know, when I... Thank you. For the last two weeks, I've been there every single day looking, having coffee at at the bakery sometimes, or just stopping and looking. If you really look from across the street, from the Sausalito Bakery, or the bubble gallery, you'll see a wooden fence. going right along. That isn't going to go away. that's still there. You can go down and look at it. That's what really so to speak, will block your view. So, I really feel that we should move ahead with this project. and I'm, will be the first one to say, Honestly, if it represents not being safe or a detriment, I'll be the first one to vote to tear it down. And that's my comment. |
| 01:36:56.05 | Unknown | Well, um... I would say a couple things. One, just along the lines of the appeal, I think the appeal can stand on its own. I think the real, and some of the grounds of the planning commission, used were a stretch to deny the original project, whether you like it or not. Fish smell as a reason to deny up here is kind of an interesting reach. be those issues whether you want to appear here or not. Thank you. I'll have to take the word of staff as far as the variance from the high requirements of FEMA, but if we have the ability to do that, We might as well give it a shot. The design, I think, is fine. I mean, you could go many iterations on this design and not come out with something that appeals to everyone, but I don't think it's incompatible with the neighborhood, or it's out of scale, or it will decline the social or economic vitality of the area. I think those are all a little bit of a stretch. I do think people don't like, you know, change unsettles, folks. And this is change. And if you raised it two feet, it would be, it marks change. And yes, it's been there forever. So the issue for the community is really do you want it? I can't speak to the gentleman who said it's going to cost a million dollars. I'll have to go again on the word of our staff that it's not going to cost a million dollars. If it costs a million dollars, we're not going to do it, right? I mean, we don't have the money. So whether it needs to be sprinklered, I forget who Bob brought that up. Well, you've got Southern Marin sitting right behind you. You can corral them and get them. I'm sure they'll have to give it a say, yay or nay, on that anyway as part of the whole review process. and a plaque on the site about the fire station and if firefighters are still there about jet powers, you know, this is another, This was a few years, many years back, but I still know that sentiment still runs deep in Southern Marin. fire to make something of note for him. And maybe there's something there. So my opinion is either don't do it at all, or see if you can get a, see if the Thank you. because there's bigger fish to fry, frankly, in Sausalito than this pier, either don't do it at all or go for the variance, and if it ever gets washed away, it's our own fault. |
| 01:39:58.27 | Unknown | I'd like to thank everybody who's gone through this process because of this peer. We've certainly had a public meeting with OMED and several planning commissions and now three times before the council, open city hall. And I do appreciate everyone. coming and participating And I can tell you that each of your comments were reviewed. This was a difficult one, and there were a lot of Good points on both sides. really appreciated and the public participation. We did our best to count everyone with all these different modes of doing it and to count everybody individually. This is a historic pier. And it was destroyed. It was on the city's list to replace... And fortunately, We had staff who found money to do that. And, uh, Of course, the city has to decide whether we want this peer or we don't. And that's why we did all this polling and all these meetings. And it showed basically by a small margin that the city does want it. But what's really affected me and why I'm going to support it is both reading the comments and I did some of my own informal polling of people who are really interested in historical side of things and people that I grew up here and raised kids here, and that was almost universal. that people that grew up here or raised kids here or we're interested in the historic value wanted a pier. And they didn't particularly like it to be two feet higher, but they wanted a pier. And that certainly is weighing me. I think at this stage, I think it'd be great to try to have a peer that went out, but I up is especially now with the new design, there's not a double ramp. There's one ramp that goes up. It's just a slight elevation. When you take a look at some of the view blockage, and I think a lot of us on the council spend a lot of time walking up and down because this has been a tough decision. And, I think it's minimal. Certainly when you have cars parked at the Trident, you have an SUV, it blocks you right up to where this would block. What was kind of interesting when I went by today is when you go on the north side of the Trident, the public restrooms that we put there, totally blocked the view, you know, and this is going to be a minimal where you look through. So, believe me, I'm very supportive of the view. I think it's important, but I don't think it's really... Actually, the other thing I did was got on the Trident's their balcony and took a look at what this would be. And it's another different view. And we would add a dimension to the view Uh, Certainly, I think some of the things we have to consider, I think fishing, even though it's a fishing pier, we have to be very careful. I appreciate Bob Freeman's concern. I appreciate his support of it, but he has a legitimate concern, and we'll have to take a look at casting restrictions, maybe time restrictions, certainly the smoking sustainability ones. uh, Plaque, I think that's a good idea as well. |
| 01:43:05.75 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. I will be brief. I would echo most of what I've My fellow council members have indicated, which is At the last City Council meeting, I think I echoed what? Um, Jonathan said, which is fundamentally we've got to decide do we want to peer or not. That's the bottom line. I've also do appreciate we've done a lot of outreach here um the various systems that we've introduced to increase communication appears to be working nonetheless I've done my own informal polling I've talked to lots of people I too have been wandering up and down Bridgeway, and in fact, Tom and I bumped into each other today, not knowing we were going in different directions looking at this thing. So, If we want a peer, I don't know about the issue of the variance because I think staff is telling us that's not going to fly. And I think we'd have to start the whole process again, is my guess, because to get a variance, we've got to go through a whole procedure. So... I'm just not sure how realistic a variance is or if it's something that we really should be doing anyway. I'm concerned, I'm very sympathetic to Bob's concerns about the Triton windows, you know. And my view is if phishing causes a problem, either because it becomes a nuisance or because it becomes dangerous, and we're going to have to shut down fishing. and if we want to make sure that Um, So that's the first. On the view issue, I also agree very much with the fact that Yet there is going to be some views that are diminished. But I was very struck with, in listening to one of the Planning Commission meetings, I think it was Commissioner Cleveland Knowles who pointed out, you're creating a whole new view vista by creating a pier. The fact that people can walk out over the water is an important experience for people. And we shouldn't, that's a view as well, and that we shouldn't dismiss that. So I'm inclined to be in favor of this project. I would like to see a bit more thought or ask the question whether there's something we can do a little bit more to soften up the railings or make it a bit more compatible. But overall, I think we should move ahead with this. |
| 01:46:00.74 | Mayor Whitney | So we need to figure out how to move towards constructing a motion here. Thank you. And I don't know who wants to have a go at that. |
| 01:46:16.67 | Unknown | We have a motion. |
| 01:46:19.56 | Adam Politzer | Mr. Mayor, there's really two actions that you may want to take. The first action is related to the appeal of the Planning Commission's decision. So that's the first action, and I'll ask Lily to bring up the recommended motion. And then the second, from what I just heard, Mayor Withey state, is there an opportunity to get into some of the design elements and give direction? |
| 01:46:23.52 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:46:23.54 | Unknown | Amen. |
| 01:46:23.91 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:46:50.89 | Adam Politzer | to the designer to I can go with the horizontal or vertical. Um, and the wide ramp or the narrow ramp. And if you want to go back and look at those options, we can do that after you deal with the first question, which is do you uphold? or deny the appeal. |
| 01:47:09.20 | Mayor Whitney | So, Lily, do you have a slide with a motion? |
| 01:47:13.29 | Unknown | This is the recommendation. which is to uphold the appeal and approve the project, there are conditions in that draft resolution which are summarized on this screen here. And this is regarding the design elements that staff is recommending. And those are those design elements that Adam was talking about if you for example preferred the wider ramp as opposed to the narrow ramp you can make that change in the resolution if you decided to uphold the appeal |
| 01:47:56.30 | Mayor Whitney | So could we ask for a motion then on the actual appeal? |
| 01:48:00.15 | Unknown | Yeah, why don't you break into two pieces. So the first would be to |
| 01:48:07.79 | Unknown | Council Member, I think what we actually need is some consensus on the design and then action on the appeal. It's just one motion because the appeal is based on a set of conditions, and those conditions are reflected in the design. So the appropriate order would be consensus on the design and then a motion on the actual appeal. And with the caveat that if anything changes with the design in that discussion, that be reflected in the resolution. Maybe Mary can state it better than I can. |
| 01:48:43.99 | Mary Wagner | No, I think you stated it perfectly. So the conditions that are in the resolution in front of you, your decisions on design may affect that. So if you can take those first and give direction, if any, on the design elements, that will get incorporated into your motion on the decision on the appeal. |
| 01:48:57.71 | Unknown | on the design. |
| 01:49:03.19 | Unknown | Is resolution 1A or any 5A attachment one? Thank you. |
| 01:49:10.23 | Peter Glazer | Yeah. |
| 01:49:14.08 | Unknown | Is that correct, Lily? It's attachment one, it's 15 pages. |
| 01:49:19.58 | Mayor Whitney | And the new conditions are |
| 01:49:24.35 | Unknown | The conditions. |
| 01:49:25.45 | Mayor Whitney | Where can we sort of zone in on those? |
| 01:49:27.21 | Unknown | of course. Page seven of that resolution. So it starts with one under general conditions. So the height is a given. So we have it being not to exceed 2 and 1 feet above the Fridgeway sidewalk. Condition two is regarding the railings. So that condition as drafted has the horizontal steel cable railings. |
| 01:49:39.95 | Unknown | Uh-huh. |
| 01:49:58.73 | Unknown | Three is regarding the access, and that condition removes the switchback ramp, and it provides the single ramp with the wider staircase. |
| 01:50:17.12 | Unknown | Condition four isn't relevant to this discussion. Five is related to the benches. Six is related to fishing. you Seven is related to bicycles. |
| 01:50:29.21 | Unknown | We've got all those here, up through 14 and beyond. So you want us to discuss these first. and |
| 01:50:42.10 | Unknown | Well, there could be a motion from the council to adopt the resolution as drafted by staff, and that would be accepting all of these elements here. So the access, the benches, the fishing, the railings. If there was disagreement with the council on some of those design elements, that should be discussed right now and incorporated into a motion. |
| 01:50:52.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:50:52.07 | Unknown | for it. |
| 01:50:52.39 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:50:56.38 | Unknown | Right. |
| 01:51:06.15 | Unknown | Okay. Okay. So can I just make a point? As far as the benches go, this is where, even if I disagree in some fashion with you, this is where I think we should work as a council where you massage things. So as far as the benches go, I would leave that more open-ended and take away the backs as a condition. That was my one. Right. I mean, you can decide that later. You don't need to pencil that in here. So that's number five. So just take out the reference to BACs, and we can figure out whether we want BACs or not, or whether they discourage fishing, or I don't know where that came from. But anyway, so, right. There's also, is Jan still here? There's waste receptacles is one of the conditions. And no smoking? You can put no smoking as an initial condition here, additional condition. |
| 01:51:07.68 | Unknown | Uh, |
| 01:51:25.50 | Unknown | That was my one. |
| 01:51:41.09 | Unknown | but, |
| 01:51:48.59 | Unknown | There's ways for |
| 01:51:53.38 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:51:53.40 | Adam Krivacek | Thank you. |
| 01:51:53.56 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:52:00.18 | Unknown | It's required anyway, but you can still make it a condition. |
| 01:52:00.92 | Councilmember Leon | but you can still make it again. I still have the sign. |
| 01:52:03.98 | Unknown | I don't know if it is required or not, but let's make a condition in here. OK. Because as someone who's cleaned up this stretch of the bridgeway for 10 years, the cigarette buds would you collect the most along the bridgeway. It's part of the, what is that thing I do? |
| 01:52:21.58 | Jim Irving | you know. |
| 01:52:21.85 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:52:21.86 | Jim Irving | Thank you. |
| 01:52:23.21 | Unknown | Coastal cleanup. Thank you for reminding me. I'll just point out Condition 1 does not say it has to be 2 1⁄2 feet. It says it should not be greater than 2 1⁄2 feet. Now that doesn't mean we can't revisit two and a half feet at a later time, through this whole application process and the permitting process we're going to have to go through. So it's Thank you. I know once you start to, you're going to apply for a permit, I would imagine, right, through BCDC. You're going to have to get a BCDC permit for this, right? |
| 01:52:59.06 | Unknown | DCDC as well as the construction committee. |
| 01:53:01.10 | Unknown | from ourselves, from the crazy people you talked about earlier in the hallway. I'm just saying I take that back. |
| 01:53:12.54 | Councilmember Leon | Uh, He's under peer pressure. |
| 01:53:14.89 | Unknown | go through our own difficult process. But so where does this determination that, I mean, is that just we decide we want to build it two and a half feet or above? |
| 01:53:25.95 | Unknown | Amen. So a little background on that. The plans that the planning commission denied, which are included. Right, those are different. Those are three and a half feet. So we need the condition to make sure that the pier would not be greater than two and a half feet. That condition also provides a little bit of wiggle room. If the designer is able to lower the pier, it can be at a lower elevation. You can add language in that condition, specifying that you want it to the lowest extent possible, but staff are saying that we think it's up to two and a half feet. |
| 01:53:31.35 | Unknown | Right, those are different. Right. |
| 01:54:00.65 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 01:54:02.39 | Unknown | All right. |
| 01:54:02.79 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:54:06.74 | Unknown | I think we should. |
| 01:54:09.26 | Jonathon Goldman | Yes, Senator, with your permission. In the process, the approval process for building permit application in the floodplain, the city's floodplain administrator, me, is responsible for interpreting the code and approving the plans. So our designer who is experienced in designing structures in special flood hazard areas is responsible for designing the structure and the flood plan administrator for the city is responsible for reviewing those plans and either approving them or telling the designer that they need to do that. |
| 01:54:54.46 | Unknown | not to beat a dead horse or to be facetious here, but how come we didn't make Bob jack up the Trident two and a half feet when he had his repair permit there? |
| 01:55:04.64 | Jonathon Goldman | That's a perfectly good question that's been asked before, and to be honest, I don't know the answer. Although, the existence of a historic structure does establish the grounds for a variance. In this particular case, there's no historic structure to apply for a historic variance for. |
| 01:55:24.72 | Unknown | you |
| 01:55:24.77 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 01:55:24.91 | Unknown | Thank you. All right. |
| 01:55:27.00 | Jonathon Goldman | Yeah. you Thank you. The pier that we are reconstructing is not there anymore. It was washed away in 2001. Okay, good, guys. |
| 01:55:28.94 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:55:36.79 | Unknown | Okay, guys, if we can not get in this back and forth. |
| 01:55:43.00 | Jonathon Goldman | So it's just a little bit. |
| 01:55:43.74 | Unknown | sorry |
| 01:55:44.03 | Jonathon Goldman | providing unprocessing. |
| 01:55:47.92 | Unknown | 12, 7, 8. Those are my two comments on number one, number five, and... If we added a new one about smoking, then we can fake that number 15. |
| 01:56:03.64 | Unknown | All right. And I think I would like to add the plaque, I think, in these materials, and there are so many I can't find it right now, but the historical society has already looked at putting a plaque there and I think we should And of course Jim Irving mentioned that I think we should look at adding that and looking to the historical society. Again, I believe they've done some work I do have some of these concerns on benches, so I'm more than glossing over it. I do. like to have us consider if they want to put in the backs. And the last thing is, and I'm not sure how we put it into the motion. the cost. We haven't gone and gotten an estimate yet. And if we get an estimate that's substantially more than our funding. should have a mechanism that it's not automatically not approved or they have to come back. But I'm not sure how we handle that. |
| 01:56:57.90 | Unknown | Thank you. I imagine you're the perfunctory owner, so you can stop it after you've spent $1 or $100,000. So it's up to you. |
| 01:56:59.80 | Unknown | That was it. |
| 01:57:00.08 | Adam Krivacek | Thank you. and very dearly. |
| 01:57:03.76 | Unknown | Thank you. THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:57:04.86 | Adam Krivacek | that. |
| 01:57:05.01 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 01:57:08.99 | Adam Politzer | And not just, if I may, not just that, because it's over my signing authority. It has to come before. |
| 01:57:13.92 | Unknown | It has to come back. |
| 01:57:15.66 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:57:16.31 | Adam Politzer | I think. |
| 01:57:16.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:57:19.49 | Councilmember Leon | on the fishing. I'd like to kind of put that there. |
| 01:57:23.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:57:24.31 | Councilmember Leon | On the fishing, I'd kind of like to put that where maybe after one year or six months, it's reviewed to see if it is not creating a safety or something in there. |
| 01:57:38.44 | Unknown | Thank you. Well, you can make that a condition, not just that you come back and look at it, |
| 01:57:39.89 | Councilmember Leon | Okay. |
| 01:57:44.90 | Unknown | something is a condition to say, you know, investigate whatever what opportunities there are to avoid these problems, whether it's plexiglass, whether it's posts or whatever, working with our tribe. |
| 01:57:55.21 | Councilmember Leon | or whatever that you want. I think if we see that if it's a safety issue or there's something that's negative on it, then I think we all realize that and then we'll just take it away if we have to. |
| 01:58:12.20 | Mayor Whitney | Mary, could I just clarify? After this pier is built and it's in use, I presume that the city council at any time could shut down Fission if it wanted to. |
| 01:58:26.01 | Mary Wagner | Yes. |
| 01:58:28.46 | Mayor Whitney | Okay. Thank you. |
| 01:58:29.27 | Unknown | but the enforcement thereof is the issue, right? You know, this is so you'll have to, you can discourage the use, but to actually enforce it is a difficult task. |
| 01:58:29.38 | Mayor Whitney | Fun. |
| 01:58:32.27 | Unknown | Right. |
| 01:58:32.35 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 01:58:36.23 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:58:36.35 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:58:36.42 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:58:40.25 | Unknown | I'd like to ask on that point though, is there anything in our grant that requires us to have fishing on the pier? |
| 01:58:56.77 | Jonathon Goldman | The short answer is that I don't recall that the grant specifically requires that we have fishing, but the application for the grant identified fishing and water access recreation as public benefits that would be accomplished by funding the project. you My recommendation is that to the extent that the Council is approving the reconstruction of the pier, that the question as to how it's used be addressed after we get it reconstructed. at least with respect to fish. |
| 01:59:44.77 | Mayor Whitney | So having gone through this list of conditions, are we approaching being able to put this motion together? |
| 01:59:54.45 | Unknown | Yeah, I mean, you have, you've got, I think now, 16 conditions, right? Adding the smoking, the, what was the other one? Clack. Clack. |
| 01:59:55.28 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 01:59:55.30 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:00:08.57 | Unknown | There, that's already there. And you can add one, certainly, and John brought the BCDC, will require this anyway, but your construction is enduring, you know, has to be during certain times where it doesn't affect fish and other marine animal impact, and I know that's baked into your plan anyway, but we could specify that here just so it shows we're thinking about it. |
| 02:00:09.82 | Unknown | already there. |
| 02:00:32.45 | Mayor Whitney | I think that was grounds for our extension. Right. If I'm correct. |
| 02:00:41.52 | Mayor Whitney | Yes. |
| 02:00:41.84 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:00:42.09 | Unknown | There's a condition regarding the biological survey to adhere to that memo, and that memo requires that we comply with the time frame for the herring spawning. Oh, okay. It's in the condition. |
| 02:00:55.02 | Unknown | Oh, okay. The Pranuski-Chatham survey. Number four. Yeah. Okay. Okay. |
| 02:00:59.89 | Unknown | Number four. |
| 02:01:01.75 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:01:07.91 | Unknown | So that you have two new additions, and you have a edit to condition number five, where you dislocate benches and remove with backs. And you can address that some other time. |
| 02:01:30.17 | Unknown | So the two conditions are the no smoking signs and the plaques, and then the edit to number five. And that's all right now. |
| 02:01:42.72 | Unknown | Well, no, another one I think is a compromise. It sounds like you want to come back. after a full season and see what the impact of fishing has been on the Trident, if there's been significant impact. Or safety issues, then revisit whether it's the safety precautions or fishing. |
| 02:01:56.51 | Councilmember Leon | you |
| 02:02:07.27 | Unknown | And that's one year. |
| 02:02:08.94 | Unknown | Yeah, you should give it a full season. Yeah, through the different seasons. |
| 02:02:11.02 | Adam Politzer | Season. If there's an issue that comes up earlier, we'll bring it back to council if need be. But one-year cycle would be staff's recommendation to them. Absolutely one year cycle. |
| 02:02:16.77 | Unknown | Right. |
| 02:02:28.57 | Unknown | Just for clarification, I didn't have any edits to number one. |
| 02:02:35.99 | Unknown | I don't think there's a consensus on that, so I think I'll leave it as it is. |
| 02:02:42.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:02:43.81 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:02:44.13 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:02:44.15 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:02:47.12 | Unknown | Whether you want to minimize it or whether you want to just leave it, it shall not be greater. |
| 02:02:53.65 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 02:02:53.66 | Unknown | you |
| 02:02:53.81 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 02:02:53.88 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:02:53.98 | Mayor Whitney | gives us a |
| 02:02:54.96 | Unknown | flexibility. We can provide directions. It's your project, right? You can tell the staff what to do here in a certain extent, so it's up to you whether it's three people who want to say you have to minimize this or not. |
| 02:02:58.00 | Mayor Whitney | Right. |
| 02:02:58.30 | Unknown | Thank you. I'm sorry. |
| 02:02:59.37 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 02:02:59.38 | Unknown | I'm not sure. |
| 02:02:59.47 | Unknown | THE FAMILY IS |
| 02:02:59.50 | Mayor Whitney | All right. |
| 02:02:59.55 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:03:10.02 | Unknown | So it sounds like not. So let's leave it where it is. OK, so somebody make the motion then with those, because I'm going to have to go. |
| 02:03:11.15 | Unknown | So... |
| 02:03:17.61 | Unknown | Where's the body of the proposed motion? |
| 02:03:20.95 | Unknown | It's on page 7 of 15 of the 5A. |
| 02:03:29.91 | Unknown | Age. Oh, seven. Those are the conditions. The substances. Oh, it's the first. |
| 02:03:34.52 | Unknown | Oh, it's the first. |
| 02:03:36.37 | Mary Wagner | I apologize I mean it would be sufficient for you to direct that to move to adopt the resolution included in your staff report with the modifications that you've directed tonight this isn't like an ordinance where you have to read the whole title |
| 02:03:36.71 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:03:37.94 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:03:37.98 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:03:47.21 | Unknown | This isn't like an ordinary thing. |
| 02:03:51.46 | Unknown | So I move that we... um, approved the ordinance as specified in resolution and specified in the staff's report with the conditions specified 14 conditions with the additional two conditions relating to the plaque and the no smoking signs. |
| 02:04:09.77 | Unknown | It was just in the present. And coming back. |
| 02:04:12.06 | Unknown | And coming back after a year to review the fishing impact on whether we should impose other fishing restrictions. |
| 02:04:13.30 | Councilmember Leon | Thank you. |
| 02:04:13.31 | Unknown | Tell me back after. |
| 02:04:14.81 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:04:15.03 | Councilmember Leon | to |
| 02:04:15.64 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:04:23.39 | Councilmember Leon | I'll second. |
| 02:04:24.86 | Unknown | Thank you. Oh, and remove the back something. |
| 02:04:28.13 | Unknown | Oh, and further remove the back condition number five. And that would be reviewed by Council at a later date. |
| 02:04:37.34 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 02:04:37.70 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:04:38.41 | Mayor Whitney | And we have a second? I'll second. So do we need a roll call? Can we just do this by consent? All in favor? Aye. So, you know. Sorry. |
| 02:04:38.76 | Unknown | We have Thank you. |
| 02:04:47.32 | Unknown | Sorry. So yeah, no, I'm not going to vote for it. But I wanted to help craft the language. Thank you. So we'll do the roll call. |
| 02:04:54.20 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. So we'll do the roll call. |
| 02:04:59.10 | Unknown | I think you should just go for the variance and beat. And roll the dice yourself. So I'll vote no when these guys are voting no. No, no, we know what we're doing. |
| 02:05:09.44 | Mayor Whitney | We know what we're doing |
| 02:05:13.34 | Unknown | Well, you have to note me for |
| 02:05:13.37 | Mayor Whitney | Well, you have to know what you feel. |
| 02:05:14.48 | Debbie (City Clerk) | I just wanted to know whether you were a no or an ask |
| 02:05:14.54 | Mayor Whitney | I just wanted to. |
| 02:05:15.45 | Unknown | Yeah. No. |
| 02:05:17.68 | Debbie (City Clerk) | All right. and you're in a |
| 02:05:20.10 | Unknown | for the pier, but I think you should just do it at the same height. Okay. |
| 02:05:24.71 | Mayor Whitney | Okay, so I think that is done. Thank you very much, all of everybody who came. I'm going to propose a very short break. I know we don't have a lot yet. Maybe five minutes. |
| 02:05:29.47 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you very much. |
| 02:06:09.35 | Mayor Whitney | is business item agenda 6a, ward construction contract for the City Hall parking lot repaving project and other ADA updates. Jonathan Goldman. |
| 02:06:20.06 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is in one of my usual manners, kind of a schizophrenic presentation for which I apologize. But the staff report that you have is a request that the council adjust the budget for and award a construction contract for the city parking lot repaving project. The rationale for that action and fiscal details are included in the staff report and I'll touch on them briefly here. But we also wanted to take advantage of the opportunity because the city hall parking lot project is at least in part an accessibility improvement. It's a project that won't that won't change the number of parking spaces in the lot here, but will make the disabled parking spaces that we have compliant with the current code and provide a safe path of travel for individuals in wheelchairs to park there to get into City Hall that currently doesn't exist. |
| 02:07:11.85 | Russ Irwin | Yeah. |
| 02:07:12.12 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:07:23.95 | Jonathon Goldman | And then the update on other projects is just really for background information. So we'll go through that and talk about it when we get there. Just summarizing from the staff report, this was a budgeted item, the City Hall parking lot repaving project. We issued plans and specs. We issued addendum to those plans and specs. And a notice inviting bids. Bids were opened November 21, 2013. The low bidder was a company named American Asphalt with a base bid of $114,000 and some change against an engineer's estimate of $181,000. So that was good news. The need for removal of barriers to accessibility associated with the existing parking lot for persons with impaired mobility and the path of travel from those spaces to the building entry is, as I said, part of the rationale for both designing this project and also the rationale for staff looking for additional sources of funding over and above the amount that was available unencumbered in the budget so that we could award this contract and make sure that those accessibility barriers are removed expeditiously. And again, no change in the number of parking |
| 02:07:49.43 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:08:44.85 | Jonathon Goldman | uh... it will project will result and missed the opportunity because i wasn't able to get this action together during the holiday season when city hall was closed but nonetheless this project will result in a temporary inconvenience to employees, library patrons and other users of city hall but we will work with the contractor and make every reasonable effort to schedule the work in a manner that minimizes that inconvenience. And just a reminder to you and everybody else, including residents watching at home, the contractor is required to file with the City's construction noise ordinance for construction in residential areas, not in residential areas. The project is categorically exempt from application of CEQA because it involves the repair or reconstruction of existing facilities with no expansion or change in use. |
| 02:09:12.54 | Unknown | of all. |
| 02:09:28.07 | Unknown | in |
| 02:09:40.57 | Jonathon Goldman | And so our action on this item this evening is to augment the budget by appropriate. Uh. some of the funding in the current fiscal year budget for the City Hall Doors ADA Improvements Project. Um, I'm sure you've been in city council and have seen a lot of the improvements that we've made and because there are funds available in that project budget that I think this project will need and will provide a higher benefit from. We're proposing that we take some of those funds. And then we had programmed, as you know, we're with our budget cycles the last few years, we've been both looking backwards over the past five years and then also looking forward five years into the future to anticipate capital needs and try and provide a balanced capital program. and we had anticipated a an extensive interior and exterior repainting of City Hall project next fiscal year, which begins July 1st. And so we're recommending that a portion of that painting project be defunded in order to ensure that this project can be delivered this fiscal year. And with that, the staff recommends that Council adopt a resolution of City Council of City of Sausalito, adjusting the budget for an awarding of construction. contract for the City Hall parking lot repaving project. As indicated in the staff report, The fiscal impact section lists THE BUDGET AUGUMENTATION FUNDS, AND IN APPROVING THIS RESOLUTION, YOU'RE APPROVING THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORITY TO APPROVE CHANGE ORDERS. on the order of approximately 10% of the base bid for this project so that If all goes well, we don't have to come back to council for any subsequent authorizations happy to answer questions or interrupt my presentation and give um, Council the opportunity to take action on this and then go through the other ADA items or if you would prefer, Mr. Mayor, I'm happy to go through those first. |
| 02:12:02.66 | Mayor Whitney | What the fuck is the one I'm doing? I have a quick question actually on this. How long will it take to do this work? |
| 02:12:12.46 | Jonathon Goldman | You'll have to forgive me. I'm not familiar with the bid documents that specify the number of construction days. It is not a huge project. It involves grinding out the asphalt that's there now. There's some minor landscape grubbing to create a path of travel in front of the accessible parking spaces. There's some fine grading associated with making sure that the cross slopes and slopes in those spaces conform to the code. and then the rest of it is you know, straight paving and then once the paving is cured, Um, There are some technical challenges with the driveway that we all experience every time we drive in or out of here. And our intent is to spend some time making sure that that gets improved compared to what's there now. My guess is that this is probably not more than two weeks total of disturbance to our normal operations in the world. |
| 02:13:28.13 | Unknown | Jonathan, as far as these other projects go, the doors and the paint city hall, are you |
| 02:13:40.94 | Unknown | The door sounds like you're proposing just to kind of forget about because that's not – that's most of the budget there. But I thought we would. clarify how come, aren't those new doors anyway? |
| 02:13:53.73 | Jonathon Goldman | Yes. There are some completely new. Oh, not all of them. Okay. And some we have recently purchased hardware that's the same as what we purchased for the New Yorks. There are still some issues, but there's actually another capital project, a security upgrade capital project in the budget that has funded a lot of those improvements. So the budget to the objective of those two items has largely been accomplished already in this fiscal year and there is some budget reserved for actually the exterior doors to the Edgewater Room are still a problem and because that room is used by seniors more often than many other rooms in the building, we've reserved adequate budget to make some additional changes to those doors so that they can be used now, but we lose security if they're used the way it's set up at the moment. So we need to spend some more money there, and we have adequate funds to do that. The painting, again, what was conceptualized for next fiscal year was a pretty significant indoor and outdoor painting project for City Hall. We've preserved budget knowing that city staff at a given time is capable of doing interior work. Council Chambers is a good example. This was repainted during the recess by city staff. But the exterior of the building needs some TLC and we wanted to preserve as much budget as we could to try and get some of that taken care of next fiscal year. |
| 02:13:57.29 | Unknown | Oh, not all of them, okay. |
| 02:14:01.61 | Russ Irwin | Thank you. |
| 02:14:01.63 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:14:42.48 | Joshua Gift | Thank you. |
| 02:14:42.87 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:15:47.74 | Unknown | So we'll probably revisit that through this upcoming budget cycle in terms of making sure there's adequate funds to do the Painting that's necessary. Thank you. |
| 02:15:59.97 | John Flevin | Thank you. Okay. |
| 02:16:09.02 | Adam Krivacek | Thank you. |
| 02:16:09.03 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 02:16:09.12 | Adam Krivacek | you |
| 02:16:09.52 | Mayor Whitney | you Probably. I'm thinking that maybe we should get Jonathan to finish his presentation because we need to get public comments. |
| 02:16:17.56 | Unknown | Well, I have any. |
| 02:16:18.15 | Mayor Whitney | We'll have any. So why don't you go ahead and then we'll do the motion and we'll deal with the action. As you wish. |
| 02:16:27.97 | Jonathon Goldman | I can turn them away. |
| 02:16:28.46 | Mayor Whitney | No worries. I didn't have my microphone. |
| 02:16:29.33 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. This is kind of an awkward segue, but it's okay. We, as council is aware, we're involved in current litigation involving claims of A, barriers to accessibility in the public right-of-way, and B, issues related to city enforcement of California building code on private public accommodation permits, building permits. Certain private public accommodation businesses will be notified of these claims in the next I'm just providing some examples of the locations. This is an example labeled Sausaluda Parking Lot 1. It's downtown El Portal, Plaza Vina Del Mar, Tracy Way, and Uni Lot 1. And just the identification based on work that both the plaintiff's expert and the city's expert have been gathering about areas where there are potential issues we have not agreed that there are issues here but I just wanted to put some of these up as examples of the locations and numbers of kinds of issues that we're anticipating having to deal with I I also thought it was timely for those of you who have been downtown recently to remind you and members of the community what Plaza Bina Del Mar looked like before we started the project that's underway there and the barriers to accessibility that these experts identified during the course of their investigations in the context of this litigation. These barriers have actually already been removed by council action in awarding that construction project and that contractor pursuing that work. Here's another example with Dunphy, Spill and Rome, just an example of the number of issues identified in the vicinity of Dunphy Park, Bridgeway, the Bocce courts, Napa Street, there's the cruising club and things like that. Some other someic examples, just illustrative. I don't need to dwell on any of them, but I thought I would share them. I thought I'd share these. These are the disabled parking spaces here at City Hall that will be brought up to code as part of the project that we're asking you to award a contract for this evening. Bridgeway, but this is Olive with Spring Street here, Marinship Way down here, and Bay Model. Just other examples, Caledonia and B, and at the same time wanted to remind the council and the community of the improvements that the city has made in basically the last five years that removed barriers to accessibility or facilitated accessibility in places where it wasn't necessarily present before. The new public safety facilities, we created one additional van-accessible parking space in the vicinity of California Johnson. We added an ensign, which is across from Pace to Rome at Bridgeway, added a van-accessible space and then a van-accessible space on high as a result of regularly scheduled improvements and accessibility improvements that have been in the appropriate budget and were delivered. Fire alarm pulls in the new public safety buildings, the MLK gym which is heavily used and here at City Hall are all compliant with the current accessibility codes. And frankly I... buildings, the MLK Gym, which is heavily used, and here in City Hall are all compliant with the current accessibility codes. And frankly, I'd kind of be surprised if there's any city in Marin County that has as many at this point as we do. Caledonia Street sidewalk in the in the vicinity of 40 and 42 Caledonia where those Indian laurel figs were removed. Those sidewalk, the sidewalk, the underground utility and sidewalk damage that those trees had contributed to was repaired and that sidewalk was reconstructed in performance of the building code. At least the Plaza Villa del Mar we mentioned is under construction. Downtown public restrooms was among other things an accessibility project the new restrooms comply with the accessibility codes that the old ones just really never could have. We have new compliant restrooms here at this end of City Hall that have been completed in the last couple of years. We talked about City Hall exterior doors and we talked about the City Hall parking lot. Private projects that have been processed recently and I think our process has significantly improved in handling building code for accessibility. The Trident Restaurant, and it's kind of unfortunate that Bob left, but the Trident Restaurant is in a much better state of compliance compliance and I think the city's process in dealing with that remodel and those changes was much more robust and healthy than maybe what had happened in the past. The other two things that are worth mentioning here is that the city's process and dealing |
| 02:21:46.25 | Russ Irwin | Thank you. |
| 02:22:00.81 | Unknown | and I'm not sure. |
| 02:22:23.51 | Jonathon Goldman | We have hosted, we hosted the seminar for public works and related governmental officials several years ago actually regarding cane detectable temporary pedestrian barriers and audible warning devices for persons with low or no vision when a temporary pedestrian detour for construction occurred. You probably necessarily haven't seen a lot of that around town, but it was a valuable learning opportunity and one of the things that we try to do is share those opportunities with other agencies if we're going to put something like that on or offer some kind of training and actually the second bullet was also very significant. If we can share that training with other agencies, you know, there's a lot of synergy and mutual benefit in doing that. The second example here is that we retained Jill de Puente Peters' architects. She's a well-known architect and a certified access specialist in the state of California to provide 16 hours of classroom training in this room on a variety of topics to planning building parks and rec public works police and administration staff that all happened in three months in 2012 we had the benefit we invited and had the benefit of participation from staff from Mill Valley Tibururon, Nevada, Fairfax, Larkspur, San Anselmo, Golden Gate Bridge, Highway and Transportation District, Transportation Authority of Marin, and then a couple of consultants, Sandus Civil Engineers and John Boe Engineers. These sessions involve not only classroom, but also an additional eight hours of in-field discussion and were very valuable to the city and all of its participants. One of the activities that I got to enjoy was spending two hours in a wheelchair on Caledonia learning to appreciate what excessive cross slopes are really like in a wheelchair. What happens is a cross slope is trying to throw your wheelchair out into the street and you're trying to not go out into the street and it was a valuable lesson. In addition, the city recently retained that same firm based on competitive proposals that we had received previously to initiate the completion of the city self-evaluation and transition plan update, and our kickoff meeting for that is this committee. |
| 02:24:56.06 | Councilmember Leon | Jonathan, also, and thank you very much for... We kind of celebrate now at the south end of town, now that Richardson Street. And that's ADA compliant, up and down. Is that correct? |
| 02:25:11.26 | Jonathon Goldman | The curb ramps, the way the case law works, and it may even be in regulation at this point, but any alteration of a street creates the requirement that the pedestrian access be brought up to code at that same time. And we have historically done that anyway. We don't just go to the street. So in the locations where curb ramps were necessary and actually there are more folks in that neighborhood who have identified the need and we haven't been able to deliver those ramps yet. Yes, curb ramps were installed in the whole segment of reconstruction and Richardson that we've |
| 02:25:20.27 | Unknown | Anyway. |
| 02:25:53.40 | Councilmember Leon | And we thank you. I got a tremendous amount of comments from my neighbors about how nice it is to go down that street and not even especially at the bottom bottom out |
| 02:26:06.44 | Jonathon Goldman | Well, I appreciate the thanks, and to tell you the truth, it isn't me. It's the council in appropriating the funds, and then us in... delivering the work and frankly we've been very fortunate in the last few years to have had the low bidder being the very responsive community oriented contractors so I will pass the thanks on. |
| 02:26:40.50 | Mayor Whitney | Any other questions of Jonathan? Any public comment on these issues? Seeing none. then... Let's bring this back here for the action that we need to take. Thank you. |
| 02:26:56.98 | David Zweig | you |
| 02:26:57.15 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 02:27:02.03 | Councilmember Leon | I'd like to adopt a resolution of the City Council of the City of Sausalito adjusting the budget. for and awarding a construction contract for the City Hall parking lot repaving project. |
| 02:27:22.23 | Adam Krivacek | SECOND. |
| 02:27:24.96 | Mayor Whitney | All in favor? Aye. Opposed? |
| 02:27:31.02 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you, John. Thank you, Jonathan. So next we have our city manager information for council. Adam. |
| 02:27:44.54 | Adam Politzer | All right, well I had a whole bunch of information for filler, thinking that we were going to fly through tonight. but our friends from SWAG came and they told us they were coming. And they came, and I was glad to hear from them. So I'm going to start with SWAG. As heard from Scott Diamond, Scott and MR. STORM MET WITH ME. very productive mating. but ultimately I shared with them WHAT THEY WANT TO DO HAS NO FUNDS. THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE FUNDS. but there is a process for a temporary structure. If you want to go out there and secure a temporary structure to the city's property Then you've got to go down the hall, talk to community development, find out about the application process. But there's two barriers that you have to deal with. Um, The California Building Code, it has to you know it has to comply. The city doesn't have the ability to say, well, we like you folks, or we like your purpose, so we're gonna go ahead and let you guys put this there until we can figure out how to pay for it. Second, there needs to be a design that can hold the test not just the building code but any liability that the city may take on and there's no entity for us to say, like we were doing with Cass Gidley, the folks that are doing the tall ships where someone's there that says, look, if someone gets hurt or injured, We'll take the exposure. I think we heard some excellent comments and a real need to deal with the issues there. dredging, and providing a safe place for folks to come and tie up we have to change an ordinance that says you're only allowed to use that for tying up for 15 minutes. As I stepped out with Doug, Storm and said let's try to bring all these people back together with Public Works and talk about the maintenance side of this first. You know, what can we do? that's under the category of maintenance and then deal with what the long term plan is here. So I appreciate their passion and energy and the comments I think that we heard from Alice Merrill. These are real people with real challenges and we need to make sure Don't let bureaucracy and process get in the way But at the same time, we can't look the other way because it opens us up to all types of challenges So I suggest that they come in and we set up this meeting and we'll go forward. If any of the council members are interested in joining me and staff, then just let me know. I'd be happy to have you join us. And then staff will work with them to see if it comes back onto OMIT. The one-page proposal here may need to be a little bit more work through, but I think staff can help them on that effort and then we'll bring it to OMIT and then eventually to the council unless the council directs during future agenda items something different. Uh, Marinership Steering Committee, I think it's really important to note that they've been holding interviews, our design team, or not our design team, but our consultants. They've been holding interviews. What's very exciting is that 88 individuals in our community have signed up to be a part of a variety of sessions. really an outstanding turnout of people that are giving their time to come and talk about what they think or should not happen and the comments so far are really all over the place. But very helpful and all being recorded and we'll come back to the committee and eventually to the council for your information. But just wanted you to know that the last two days from early morning to into the evenings, multiple rooms, edgewater room, these two rooms, we've been holding these sessions and they've been going very, very well. Southern Marin Management Academy is something that I'm proud of. I'm proud that Sausalito created the Academy for Southern Marin will start tomorrow. year two. We have 20... uh, employees from Southern Marin. which now includes Belvedere. Last year it was Tiburon, Mill Valley, Marin City, South Cedar and Southern Marine Fire. So we had five, we're up to six Southern Marine agencies, And so it kicks up tomorrow. morning at 8.30 and so I'm very excited about that and it will run for eight months. one full day a month with various subjects and these are the really help our young employees and old employees the opportunity to grow as city assets and eventually move into management positions if they so choose to pursue that opportunity. uh, I think you folks are all aware of this, that the Marin County Council of Mayors and Council Members. Dinner has been moved. It was originally scheduled for the 22nd. It's now moved to the 30th. of this month and still at the Spinnaker And that was to support all the new council members and new mayors that are going off to the League of California Cities Academy, which Mayor Withy is joining me this, on the 22nd to go to the academy and get a refresher because he went last year, but look at it through the mayor's eyes versus as a newly elected and appointed council member. So we'll be there on the 22nd. And then the MCC dinner will be on the 30th. Uh, And it was mentioned in Jonathan's... update there, but Vina del Mar is close to being finished. I worry about it. considering if we're going to try to pull together a ribbon cutting ceremony, for some celebration. I will note just out of my own. find a sense of humor. that the Vina del Mar process was fighting over reducing an elevation to make it accessible and we're now having a community discussion over increasing elevation to deal with accessibility. If we lower something, people have strong opinions. If we elevate something, people have strong opinions. But what I think is really important when we look at what Jonathan laid out earlier, We are dealing with accessibility challenges in our town. and with the Sausalito Age Friendly group trying to make Sausalito more accessible for folks that don't have seeing or or wheelchair challenges, they just have normal challenges of aging and for some of us, maybe someone to my left. you know, when you just have a simple injury, getting around is a challenge. So I think, you know, that it is important But at the end of the day, staff, works very hard to give you good recommendations, thoughtful and well thought out and we appreciate the time and the energy that the Council takes to really consider these decisions and to listen to the public. The open town hall system is working that vehicle that we're providing access to the public to comment is working. 194 people went and read and visited that site. We have the Friends of Dunphy Park. at their questionnaire. A lot of people have gone and visited and participated on the Dunphy Park questionnaire. Marinship Steering Committee has information on there asking for feedback, composting information So. It was nice to see the fishing pier, which is several of the council members mentioned Of all the issues that we have to focus a lot of energy on, maybe not. the top of the list. That's the public. took it seriously and chose to participate. So I think that the council and staff are working hard to hear from our public and doing the best job that we can taking that information and moving the city's agenda forward. I'm not sure. So I'll end with that. and answer any questions that you folks may have with me. |
| 02:35:58.15 | Mayor Whitney | Any questions for Adam? Any questions from the public? So let's move on to future agenda items. |
| 02:36:11.00 | Mayor Whitney | So I notice we provided a... City Council agenda planning as an addition to our package. Showing some items for the next meeting. This is this one. |
| 02:36:32.72 | Mayor Whitney | Is there anything anybody wants to raise as possible future agenda? you Items. |
| 02:36:42.80 | Unknown | . |
| 02:36:43.08 | Mayor Whitney | Mark. |
| 02:36:43.10 | Unknown | Well, I think as we heard earlier today and as Adam referred to, we should agendize what's going on with the landing at Attorney Street at some point in the near future. Thank you. |
| 02:37:00.18 | Mayor Whitney | . Okay. Council Member Committee Reports So this is... where council members have the opportunity to give feedback on either the internal or external committees that they sit on. Does anybody have anything pertinent tonight? And I think we may be discussing at the next team building session, I'm not certain, the roles of the issue of how we can get agendas and minutes for meetings more broadly distributed especially for the outside JPAs which I think has been discussed before actually that would be a good thing to do. Um, Okay, so... |
| 02:37:54.43 | Unknown | Thank you. And the only thing I'd like to mention is it's certainly related to the bicycle and pedestrian, but not directly. Tomorrow night in City Hall Chambers, there'll be a meeting, an open meeting relating to the Gates Gate 6 Road. Um... proposed changes. So we've announced that it's on our website and on the current, but I just want to announce it here that the public's invited to give input on the Gate 6 proposals. |
| 02:38:25.36 | Adam Politzer | Mr. Mayor, in Linda's absence, also important to note that the Butte Street Task Force will also be holding a public workshop on Thursday night. to share their proposal that they presented to the City Council collect additional public comment. and open discussion on that item. That has also been widely publicized through all of the The email list that Lily gathered for the housing element, all those folks have been notified. It's been out in the Currents. It was publicized. on a variety of different vehicles so we hope that that meeting on Thursday night is well attended. And then the Butte Street Task Force We'll then come back to council with an update and continue that discussion with the city council. |
| 02:39:22.69 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you, Adam. you So the next item is item 7D, appointments to the Business Advisory Board, Business Advisory Committee. And we are, let me just give a little bit of background here. We have been over the last number of months slowly reconfiguring under Adam Kravash's leadership, a new reformulated business advisory committee, as we've discussed. And we are taking careful, deliberate steps to slowly build with a new business set of team members. Tonight, As our staff report indicates, We have the opportunity to nominate up to two people for vacant positions for the category of DAC membership that our city residents which are appointed by the City Council. Again, in the spirit of slowly doing this and making sure that BAC also is able to discuss this as we start building the team, I'd like to put forward one more nomination tonight. And that is for... THE END OF THE END OF THE uh, Christine Scarpino to join the Business Advisory Committee. So again, I just would like to make the one appointment this evening. I don't know if, Adam, you wanted to make any public comment or before we discuss that |
| 02:41:29.32 | Adam Krivacek | Adam Krivahac, 840 Ulima Street. On behalf of the Business Advisory Committee, I can say that we would be delighted to have her on our committee. She joined for one of our work sessions and she appeared to be highly qualified. She's a professional. She lives on the water. She knows the waterfront. So she qualifies both as a citizen, as somebody who knows the waterfront and somebody who is representing the professional community. So we'd be happy to welcome her on the waterfront. |
| 02:42:03.88 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:42:08.75 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:42:08.86 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:42:08.87 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:42:14.95 | Adam Krivacek | Thank you. |
| 02:42:17.24 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you, Adam. Is there any other... Thank you. names we put forward, if not, are we I can stay at a little bit. We leave it open and everybody's happy with Christine. Okay. |
| 02:42:35.67 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. Thank you. And thank you, Adam, for all your work. |
| 02:42:38.59 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:42:38.61 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 02:42:38.83 | Unknown | with. Thank you. |
| 02:42:39.47 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. |
| 02:42:39.49 | Unknown | That's great. |
| 02:42:41.27 | Mayor Whitney | Yeah. Again, in the spirit of this is a major reorganization that's going on here, so we want to build carefully and I think prudently. The next item is 7E, various appointments and Let's start with number one, which is a request from TAM to appoint a representative for the Transportation Authority of Marin's Safe Routes to Schools Program. I'd like to ask Council Member Herb Weiner to do that for us as he is focused on TAM. And I think that's within my authority to a point. The second... So then we have two appointments to first of all the House and Elements Subcommittee and then to the let's start there we need to appoint a council member to the housing element subcommittee. If you recall, we made the decision the last meeting or several meetings ago expand that subcommittee to comprise an additional council member and an additional representative from the Planning Commission. I would like to propose that The second council member, at the moment I'm the sole liaison or representative to that committee. I'd like to appoint Vice Mayor Theodores as the second council member on the House and Elements subcommittee. Is that something within my authority or do we need to vote on that one? Mary, Deb? |
| 02:44:58.84 | Adam Politzer | It's in your authority if there are other members that want to volunteer to also be considered then they can share that with you otherwise if there are no other you can move forward. |
| 02:45:13.99 | Mayor Whitney | you |
| 02:45:14.95 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 02:45:14.97 | Mayor Whitney | Yeah, I'm gonna do that. Everybody. Good. Now the other, I think we need to confirm the choice made by the planning commission of the person to join the House Enalment Subcommittee. They've already actually first did that and appointed, I think it was Commissioner Nichols to that commission. Um, However, in light of what's going to come up next with the second committee, uh... then They decided to, the Planning Commission decided that it would be better to appoint Commissioner Cleveland Knowles to that committee. She had previously been appointed to join the Legislative Committee for the Historic Regulations and rather than serve on two committees, so she has resigned from that appointment and the Planning Commission has appointed Commissioner Nichols, Vicki, to the historic regulations initiative that's going to be looked at by the Legislative Committee. I hope I've got all of that correct. So with that, I think we just need to affirm those two appointments. Susan to the housing element subcommittee, which would be great because she worked on that for two years and in the previous housing element task force, and Vicki to something that's really up her alley in expertise, which is the historic guidelines. So is everybody happy with that? So with that, as there were no public comments there. Are there any other reports of significance? And if not, should we have a motion for adjournment? |
| 02:47:22.33 | Unknown | I'll move. |
| 02:47:24.07 | Mayor Whitney | Second. We are. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:47:30.70 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:47:30.76 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:47:32.91 | Mayor Whitney | Thank you. Thank you. |