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| 00:00:06.68 | Jill Hoffman | I now call to order the city council meeting of Tuesday, May 3rd, 2016. Lily, would you please call the roll? |
| 00:00:14.29 | Lily Whalen | Councilmember Weiner? |
| 00:00:15.74 | Unknown | THE CITY. |
| 00:00:16.43 | Lily Whalen | Councilmember Theodorus? |
| 00:00:17.34 | Unknown | President. |
| 00:00:17.95 | Lily Whalen | Councilmember Pfeiffer? Here. Vice Mayor Withey? Here. |
| 00:00:20.45 | Unknown | care. |
| 00:00:21.18 | Lily Whalen | Mayor Hoffman. Present. |
| 00:00:23.03 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Items D1 will be discussed in closed session this evening. Could we, I invite any public comment at this time on closed session items? Seeing no one in our. room with us and no one approaching the podium. I will now move on to item D1. adjourn to closed session. to consider the following conference with legal counsel. with regard to existing litigation pursuant to CGC section 54956.9 a the Terraces Homeowners Association claim |
| 00:01:11.34 | Jill Hoffman | Good evening and welcome to the May 3rd, 2016 City Council meeting. I want to call it back to order after closed session. Radio Sausalito thanks Gil Purcell, Jr. |
| 00:01:19.97 | Patricia Cornell | Radio Sausalito thanks Gil Purcell Jr. for his generosity. |
| 00:01:22.42 | Lily Whalen | you |
| 00:01:28.22 | Lily Whalen | Councilmember Theodorus? Present. |
| 00:01:29.37 | Unknown | present. |
| 00:01:30.08 | Lily Whalen | Councilmember Weiner. |
| 00:01:31.34 | Unknown | THE CITY. |
| 00:01:31.71 | Lily Whalen | Thank you. Councilmember Pfeiffer? Here. Vice Mayor Withey? |
| 00:01:34.73 | Jill Hoffman | here. |
| 00:01:34.95 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:01:34.97 | Jill Hoffman | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:01:35.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:01:35.05 | Jill Hoffman | Mayor Hoffman. Present. Monica Finnegan, could you please lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance? |
| 00:01:41.43 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 00:01:46.33 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:01:46.95 | Jill Hoffman | Keith will help you. Hi. Hi. |
| 00:01:48.55 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE All right. |
| 00:01:49.04 | Jenny Flynn | Bye. |
| 00:01:49.42 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:01:49.90 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:01:50.00 | Unknown | I believe it. you to the flag. Thank you. of the United States of America. to the Republic. you Thank you. |
| 00:02:00.89 | Ray Withy | Amen. and liberty and justice are on. |
| 00:02:05.83 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:02:05.87 | Keith Stone King | Thank you. |
| 00:02:05.89 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:02:05.90 | Keith Stone King | . |
| 00:02:07.62 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Well done. Well done. |
| 00:02:07.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:02:07.69 | Keith Stone King | Thank you. |
| 00:02:07.71 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:02:08.37 | Keith Stone King | Well done. |
| 00:02:08.85 | Unknown | . |
| 00:02:08.91 | Ray Withy | . |
| 00:02:08.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:02:12.82 | Jill Hoffman | We do not I do not have any closed session announcements. Do we have any public comment on our closed session announcements? Seeing none, do we have a motion to approve the agenda? |
| 00:02:26.12 | Tom Theodorus | So moved. Second. |
| 00:02:28.65 | Jill Hoffman | All in favor? Aye. |
| 00:02:29.56 | Tom Theodorus | Bye. |
| 00:02:31.53 | Jill Hoffman | We have a special presentation this evening. with regard to a proclamation for Yoshitome and Sushi Ron for 30 years in Sausalito. Mike. |
| 00:02:45.02 | Unknown | Well, good evening Mayor Hoffman, City Council and PAC City Council Chamber. I know you guys all came here today for one reason. And that is to recognize someone who's been quite a force in Sausalito. When I got here just about eight years ago, I was thrown into this thing called the Tour of California. And I met the committee and I met an individual who was an avid cyclist. |
| 00:03:05.64 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:03:05.71 | Unknown | That's a... |
| 00:03:09.64 | Unknown | but more than an avid cyclist was a fan of Sausalito. And with that, I'd like to introduce Mr. Yoshitomei. |
| 00:03:23.81 | Unknown | And this award has nothing to do with bikes. |
| 00:03:26.97 | Jill Hoffman | Bye. Yes. |
| 00:03:30.16 | Unknown | So with that, I understand you have a proclamation. |
| 00:03:30.53 | Jill Hoffman | Very good. I do have a proclamation, but I believe the proclamant is supposed to come up to the front and stand in front, I believe. |
| 00:03:37.08 | Unknown | supposed to |
| 00:03:37.41 | Tom Theodorus | Come up. |
| 00:03:37.75 | Unknown | the front. |
| 00:03:38.33 | Tom Theodorus | Yeah. |
| 00:03:38.78 | Unknown | in. |
| 00:03:39.15 | Tom Theodorus | THE END OF |
| 00:03:39.31 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:03:39.47 | Tom Theodorus | I believe. |
| 00:03:41.08 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:03:41.33 | Jill Hoffman | I think if I'm not mistaken. |
| 00:03:47.98 | Unknown | you Bye. Yeah. |
| 00:03:57.18 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:03:59.62 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. We didn't rehearse this. |
| 00:04:01.04 | Unknown | . |
| 00:04:01.97 | Jill Hoffman | All right. |
| 00:04:06.46 | Jill Hoffman | Oh yeah, that's much better. Whereas in 1981, after earning a teaching degree in Japan, Yoshi Tomei came to California through a six-month teaching exchange program and fell in love with the country. And whereas he found that in order to stay, it was easier to obtain a restaurant job than a teaching job. And whereas he moved from the San Joaquin Valley to Sausalito and worked as an assistant manager at Sushi Gin restaurant on Caledonia Street. And whereas in 1986, 30 years ago, Yoshitome purchased the restaurant and opened a 2060 sushi bar with three sushi chefs and and a wait staff of three and changed the name to Sushi Ron. And whereas in both 1996 and 2001, the business expanded into an adjacent space, adding additional dining rooms and a bar. And whereas, over the years... Sushi Ron has received accolades from around the world, including a Michelin star rating, Zagat's Guide Top Northern California Restaurants, Wine Spectator's Award of Excellence, San Francisco Chronicles Top 100 list, California Dining's Top 100 U.S. Restaurants, top 25 Japanese restaurants and top 25 Northern California restaurants A three-star rating by food critic Michael Bauer. and an invitation to cook at the James Beard Foundation. And whereas... Since coming to Sausalito, Yoshi has served as a president of the Chamber of Commerce, host committee member of the Amgen Tour of California, and chair of the Hospitality Business Development Committee, to name a few. Now, therefore, the mayor of the city of Sausalito takes great pleasure in congratulating Yoshihitome and Sushiran for their 30 years of service to Sausalito and its residents. and be it further proclaimed that Yoshitome also be properly recognized for his most recent contribution of $5,000 to the community group Saucel Beautiful and for never saying no when a local service group asks for a donation of dinner, gift certificate, or a bottle of sake. And witness thereof, I, Jill James Hoffman. Mayor of the city of Sausalito. have heretofore set my hand and caused the seal of the city of Sausalito to be affixed this third day of May 2016. in order to recognize and acknowledge the feats and accomplishments in community service of Yoshitome and Sushi Ran. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:06:35.94 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:07:06.31 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:07:15.08 | Unknown | Drinks around the house. |
| 00:07:17.74 | Unknown | I'm not. |
| 00:07:18.11 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. |
| 00:07:18.75 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:07:18.76 | Jill Hoffman | I'm sorry. |
| 00:07:19.76 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:07:21.31 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, the fun has just begun here in Sausalito. Our next item on the agenda is the sister city presentation from Susan Rowe. Nope. Sorry. Monica Finnegan. Susan. |
| 00:07:37.02 | Unknown | you |
| 00:07:37.18 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:07:37.23 | Unknown | This guy. |
| 00:07:37.60 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:07:38.14 | Unknown | Can I have all of our guys come up? Where's Cheryl? |
| 00:07:51.25 | Unknown | But then you can see the screen. Thank you for giving us three and a half nanoseconds on the agenda. And these guys are all going to talk like Federal Express. So we hope to make it through so you can see all the things that we've been doing and all the things that we plan to do in 2016, all of which we hope you will be a part of. |
| 00:08:00.56 | Unknown | You're welcome. |
| 00:08:15.08 | Unknown | Susan was not able to be here tonight. As many of you know, she has been with a medical issue, and she's recovering well, and we hope to see her back on the track like the energizing bunny she is. I just wanted to show you the board of directors for the Sister City program, and then I'll move into the individual Sister Cities. So Susan's our president, Evie's been our vice president, Harry Chapman's our able secretary, Mike Kelly's treasurer, and our city liaison is Herbie Weiner, and we love him for being with us all the time. As you know, we have three sister cities. Sakaita Japan was founded in 1988, and in that program we have helped more than 450 students in an exchange program over the years. Vigna del Mar was founded in 1960, and it was reestablished in 2011, and we've been very busy teaching Chilean businesswomen American business practices. As the general counsel once told me, teach them how to be aggressive as American women are. And then the Qashqais Portugal is our newest one that you'll hear more about from Cheryl. We've broken into three operation councils, and you can see that we each have a chair and a co-chair. It's an easy way to pass off all the blame on somebody else that's working on the project that you haven't done. I want to talk a little bit about Vina del Mar because Karen Aiken and I are working on that project as chair and co-chair. In October 2015, we took 11 delegates to Vina del Mar for teaching workshops on education. marketing, on customer retention, on business strategy. It was the women that we worked with, it was their 15th anniversary and they have gone great strides with what they've done and what they've learned from us. In October 2016, we have a wild year coming up. Not only with all the other programs, we will have seven women visiting us from Viña del Mar. One of the things before we got the bomb dropped on us that Una was leaving, we were seeking collaboration with the chamber for a maid in Sausalito and a maid in Vigna del Mar program, which we hope to continue with. And we will be expanding introductions and workshops for business women throughout the county. This is a picture of us just getting ready to teach one of the workshops with some of our teachers. Sakaire. Who's speaking for Sekedi? you |
| 00:10:41.40 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:10:44.39 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:10:46.38 | Unknown | So Sakaide, as you know, has an inbound and an outbound program. And it's a student exchange program. |
| 00:10:46.46 | Unknown | so |
| 00:10:56.79 | Unknown | cultural and educational emphases. So I'm going to hand you over to Eevee who's going to talk about the outbound program that we had in 2015. Thank you. |
| 00:11:10.81 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:11:11.71 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:11:11.79 | Unknown | Hi. In 2015, we took more students than I've ever been. We took 13 students from Marin. Of those 13, a third of them were from Sausalito. and what we do there is we learn the cultural aspects of the Japanese life in Sikai-de, which is not as Western as you might expect. There is still kimonos on the street, and it's a lot of fun for our students to go there, and they just learn so much about it. Of those 13, we were able to give scholarships through our fundraising last year. Of the 13, we actually gave seven, but two of the people we paid for in full, And that's approximately $20,000, almost $3,000 each. So we're very proud of ourselves last year, and we hope to keep that up. |
| 00:12:04.05 | Unknown | this year we are expecting approximately 13 Japanese high school students we've been working very hard to find host families to accommodate them we have found four host families in Sausalito and we're still in the process we're still processing them and we will probably make our selection in the next few weeks and then enter into an orientation program for them so that they know what to expect when the students arrive. We have developed a very rigorous program for these students, and they're two Japanese chaperones a lot of the program is based in Sausalito we will have our our formal welcome here in council chambers on the 28th 9th of July and then thereafter the welcome party will be at spinnaker's in the evening we have kayaking We have a session with Emily Dvorin to learn about recycling and how to make crafts out of recycled materials at the ICB. We have many, many... other programmatic activities based in Sausalito. We have two days in San Francisco. |
| 00:13:33.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:13:34.47 | Unknown | That's all. |
| 00:13:34.98 | Unknown | it I want to add one thing this program really could not be held together without our parks and rec I have to please everyone give parks and rec a big hand |
| 00:13:36.05 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:13:54.85 | Unknown | Two other things that I want to mention, and that is we're starting a fellowship program this year in order to keep our alumni involved. And so we're sending a young lady who speaks Japanese. to Sakai Day this year for three months to provide some educational, cultural activities there. for their citizens. We also have the pleasure of Mayor Aya, who will be coming for the Sausalito Art Festival and bringing with him Mr. Sato, who is a well-known artist in Japan. And Mr. Sato will be displaying his works at the Sausalito Art Festival. |
| 00:14:45.66 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:14:46.02 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:14:46.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:14:49.28 | Unknown | This is a photo of some of our students with the Japanese students in Sakaide. Next up, not last but least, is Kashkais, and Cheryl has a few words to say. |
| 00:15:00.65 | Cheryl Popp | Cache Cache is our newest Sister City program founded in 2012, and in a short four years, we have accomplished a tremendous amount. We have launched the first International Youth Sailing Exchange program in conjunction with the Sausalito Yacht Club and the Club Naval in Cache Cache. They were here last year. We had Cache Cache dignitaries and students marching in the Fourth of July Parade. |
| 00:15:00.68 | Unknown | Kashi Kashi is |
| 00:15:25.81 | Cheryl Popp | Unfortunately, they took the trophy. They bested our kids. But we're headed to Qashqai this year to try and reclaim it. It's an inbound, outbound program, just like Sakaita. been hugely successful and very well received so that's the educational component of our program We're also doing a lot of art and cultural exchange, which is part of the Sister City Mission. We have been hosting a Fado night, and Fado is a traditional folk music in Portugal. It's kind of a cross between opera and Tina Turner. It can make you cry. It's very dramatic, very theatrical. And the last Fado night we did, which helped fund our youth sailing exchange program with the Sausalito Yacht Club and the Sausalito Youth Sailing Foundation, was actually, it was at the Pines and it was broadcast in 40 countries worldwide. So we're really tapping into the Portuguese heritage here in Sausalito, but we're also getting the word out about Sausalito. Um, We also received a very significant gift of art two years ago from the city of Qashqash. They gifted us with... something probably valued at $50,000 or $60,000. It's these colsada stones, which they use to pave public walkways. It's sort of a mosaic, beautiful design work that they do. And they've donated the stones and artisan to come over and install them. So... We're hoping to work with the city in public works and Sausalito Beautiful as well to get those installed somewhere and be able to take advantage of this lovely gift, which is very traditional art in Portugal. Youth Sailing Exchange Program this year, we're taking a group, an adult delegation, as well as our student delegation, and we're doing a tour of Qashqai. So we're really promoting some cross-cultural exchange with Sausalito and Qashqai. And I will say obrigado to everyone at City Hall and our City Council for supporting this program. We're very proud of our accomplishments to date. Thank you. |
| 00:17:36.52 | Unknown | Just a little bit about our foundation. We are 100% volunteer funded, as you know. In 2015, our revenue was $83,000. This year, in 2016, our goal is $100,000 plus, capital P, capital L, capital U, capital S. All funds are used to support three programs, as you've heard. The scholarships that we gave out last year for Sakaita were $13,000 which is a lot of money coming from the funds that we raised but we were determined to do it. |
| 00:17:36.89 | Cheryl Popp | just a little bit |
| 00:18:10.33 | Unknown | Lots of other uses of the funds for incoming program from Vigne de Mar and also for some of the boat and the sailing program. Here's what we think we'd like to do in 2017, 2018. We'd really like to have a sustainable financial program, and we're doing that by a couple of large fundraisers we're doing. Expand our board, expand our partnerships, and continue this people-to-people diplomacy. People forget how important that is. It was discovered by Eisenhower in 1960, and that's how the whole Sister City program got started in 570 communities around the U.S. You have heard us talk about our new fundraiser that's coming up on Friday night. I have tickets with me if you haven't purchased yours yet. |
| 00:18:57.83 | Unknown | Um, We have, again, 100% volunteer operated. A lot of people in this room have given us a lot of community support. You heard about Yoshi. You've heard about Poggio and Copito. Cavalo Point has helped us a lot. The art festival has bought a table, which we're really proud of. And we're introducing new owners in the community, the people that bought One Harbor and Three Harbor Drive, PM Realty Group. So they're coming, which is a great introduction for them. All we wanted to do, we didn't complete in the time we wanted to, but we want to say thank you so much for all your support, your partnership, everything that we know that you do for us, and the checks that you write for us, and the spirit of cooperation is fabulous. Karen has a small gift that if you were coming to the party on Friday night, you might see it on everybody's body, but this is for you guys specifically. |
| 00:19:56.06 | Sarah Reedy | Thank you. and the Japanese and the Chilean flag. Thank you. |
| 00:20:02.76 | Unknown | So it's just a memento. |
| 00:20:12.01 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. you |
| 00:20:12.70 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:20:13.28 | Unknown | Thank you. you |
| 00:20:30.76 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you very much. Thank you for that presentation. Thank you. |
| 00:20:41.17 | Jenny Flynn | Thank you. |
| 00:20:41.20 | Jill Hoffman | Moving right along, we're moving on to agenda item number two, communications. public communications this is a time for City Council to hear from citizens regarding matters that are not on the agenda. Except in very limited situations, state law precludes the council from taking action on or engaging in discussions concerning items of business that are not on the agenda. However, the Council may refer matters not on the agenda to City staff or direct that the subject be agendized for future meeting. Please make sure you have completed speakers card and turn it into the city clerk. If you'd like to speak during this time, I have one speaker card, I believe, for communications not not on the agenda. And that's John Scopazzi. Yes, sir. |
| 00:21:29.37 | John Scopazi | John Scopazi, five-star yacht for some 15 years in business here in Sausalito. So thank you for letting me speak, Mayor Hoffman and the council. |
| 00:21:29.52 | Jill Hoffman | I'm going to go ahead. |
| 00:21:39.58 | John Scopazi | So I'm here to invite all the city council and the city employees and most anybody in Sausalito who wants to join us on Wednesday, May 11th at 11 a.m. for a bicycle ride. We are going to be experiencing what it's like to go to San Francisco, rent a bike, come across the bridge, and go eat in Sausalito and take the ferry back. So on May 11th, 11 o'clock in the morning, we're going to go for a bicycle ride. And anybody, five-star yacht in Sausalito, and if anybody wants to join us. We want the police chief to come, but Lieutenant Stacy Gregory is going to come because she's also involved with the program. Adam said he's too busy. And Mike Langford has a meeting, so we're trying to round up some more people. The reason why we're doing this is because my wife and I are starting to think about a program to return the bikes back from Sausalito in big cargo containers and big vans, big, you know, |
| 00:22:19.55 | Unknown | Oh, great. |
| 00:22:44.59 | John Scopazi | big movements. And we think it would relieve some congestion, spread the congestion out maybe at least, maybe relieve something, add some visitors, something that they don't have to take their bike back on the ferry, and we'd be more than happy to take it back for them. |
| 00:22:48.63 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 00:23:01.27 | John Scopazi | I think experiencing it, and has anybody biked across the San Francisco Bridge? And has anybody? |
| 00:23:03.39 | Unknown | because anything, |
| 00:23:09.16 | John Scopazi | No? And brought back to Sausalito. And then we'll have lunch. I think we're going to go to Napa Valley Burger for lunch. Okay? And we'll be more than happy to see all the city council members. Thank you. |
| 00:23:22.65 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. Okay. My next, Jeff Jacob, Matters Not on the Agenda. |
| 00:23:34.21 | Jill Hoffman | Jeff, you're up. |
| 00:23:35.39 | Jeffrey Chase | You're up. |
| 00:23:36.70 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 00:23:36.86 | Jeffrey Chase | Yeah. Frank Kamal's gonna go first, |
| 00:23:38.59 | Kamal Abuhan | Okay. Thank you. |
| 00:23:40.52 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. |
| 00:23:40.54 | Kamal Abuhan | Thank you. |
| 00:23:40.55 | Jeffrey Chase | Um, |
| 00:23:40.89 | Kamal Abuhan | Hello, everyone. My name is Kamal Abuhan. I worked in Marin County, worked for Marin General Hospital and Arcadia Healthcare for several years. At that time, it was back in 2008, I became homeless here. I was living in Bolinas, and so I found my way over to the anchorage as an anchor out. And at the Anchorage, at the Anchor Out, I met up with an organization called Swords the Plowshares. which is Michael Blecker's organization in San Francisco. There I started to do social work. And from there I discovered California Maritime Academy. And as an anchor out, I was working professionally For Swords of the Plowshares, there's a social worker. Then, moved to Cal Maritime, went to four years of Cal Maritime, got my license, my merchant mariners license as a third mate, and presently I'm working for master mates and pilots in Oakland, California. So I'm a union member at master mates and pilots. So I'm here to tell everyone here, the leaders and the community of Sausalito, I wanna be very specific, thank you very much for your leadership and your allowance for me to be at that anchorage to make my way. A lot of the mariner skills that I learned was in the Navy. but also anchoring skills I learned at the anchorage. from folks like Jesse or Jeff. And the one thing that I noticed out at the anchorage is that people help each other, that idea of being with each other and helping each other out, out there, so please, first off, thank you so much because professionally I'm at a new level of which I'm using some of those skills now professionally. And secondly, please help these folks. I've been kind of following what's going on, and I'm pretty happy to see that at least folks are involved. So, you know, hopefully we get to work together. And presently I'm out there now, though it's temporary. I'm going to be shipping soon. I'm just trying to get a feel for what's happening. So thanks a lot. Thank you very much. |
| 00:25:45.36 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Okay. Jeff? |
| 00:25:50.47 | Jeffrey Chase | Hello, Madam Mayor and City Council, City Manager and Attorney, and citizens of Sausalito. I've come up here and talked from the portions in... in the Torah. And I've encouraged anybody else who comes from a different faith to also do so. And I'm sorry I missed last week. But I'm here this week and I'm sure you all read your portions. Mr. Weiner? We're at Ahare. This week, Achare means afterwards. We're two weeks away from reading out Jubilee across the world. Jubilee is about freedom. and forgiveness and fruit trees so like Kamal I come here to bring good news and This, I think, has some bearing on the anchorage. IT'S ABOUT THE the scapegoats. It says about Aaron. Aaron is the... is the anointed one. They say Messiah or Christ. He's the one that has the oil on him. He's Moses' brother. He says, he, Aaron, shall take two he goats and place them before the Lord at the entrance to the tent of meeting. And Aaron shall place lots upon the two he goats. One lot says for the Lord, and the other says for Azazel. Aaron shall bring the he-goat upon which the lot for the Lord came up and designate it as a sin offering. And the he-goat, upon which the lot for Azazel came up, shall be placed while still alive before the Lord to initiate atonement upon it and send it away to Azazel into the desert. Aaron shall lean both his hands forcefully upon the live he-goat's head, confess upon it all the willful transgressions of the children of Israel, all their rebellions, all their unintentional sins. He shall place them on the he-goat's head. He shall send it off into the desert with a timely man. The he-goat shall thus carry upon itself all their sins to a precipitous land. He shall send off the he-goat into the desert. So one thing you might notice from this is what happens to the scapegoat. It says that he goes to a precipitous land, Adam, but like a cliff. But he's alive. The scapegoat is alive. All of us, I think, sometimes want to take what we see in the mirror, And we want to point a finger at someone else. And sometimes that person here in Sausalito, California, is the person who represents a lineage that was here long before the houses were. And that is the sailors, the mariners, now sometimes called the anchor outs of Richardson Bay. So I'm very proud. I'm not, I don't feel like a scapegoat today. I feel happy to talk with you and glad that this place is packed. So thank you. |
| 00:28:58.07 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. I have no other cards for matters that are not on the agenda. So we're moving on to... consent calendar. Oh, sorry. Oh, sorry. All right, thank you. So we're moving on to section three, action minutes. Would anybody like to move to approve the minutes? |
| 00:29:24.09 | Tom Theodorus | Well, I have a comment. |
| 00:29:25.63 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. |
| 00:29:26.02 | Tom Theodorus | Sorry? |
| 00:29:26.32 | Jill Hoffman | Sorry. |
| 00:29:27.28 | Tom Theodorus | going down to the The appeal on 5A. And I believe it says, or five lines down says the appellate Riley heard representing Jeanine Moody and I believe that was Chris Skelton so that should be that should be corrected as any other comments second |
| 00:29:43.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:29:47.77 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:29:52.68 | Jill Hoffman | you want to pose Thank you. All in favor? Aye. Bye. |
| 00:29:55.01 | Tom Theodorus | Thank you. |
| 00:29:55.03 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:29:56.93 | Jill Hoffman | motion passes all right thank you Tom moving |
| 00:30:03.11 | Jill Hoffman | Someone needs to mute their phone. Thank you. . Thank you. On to item four, consent calendar. Matters listed under the consent calendar are considered routine and non-controversial, require no discussion, are expected to have unanimous council support, and may be enacted by the council in one motion in the form listed below. There will be no separate discussion of consent calendar items. However, before the council votes on a motion to adopt the consent calendar items, council members, city staff, or members of the public may request that specific items be removed from the consent calendar for separate action. In order to request an item be pulled, you must have completed a speaker's card and turned it in to the city clerk. Items will only be removed from the consent calendar by a vote of the council. items removed the consent calendar will be discussed later on the agenda when public comment will be discussed later on the agenda when public comment will be heard on any item that was removed from the consent calendar. Do I have, I don't currently have any speaker cards for requests to remove items from the consent calendar. I see no one approaching the podium. Do I have a motion to approve the consent calendar or comment from Council on the consent calendar? Thank you. |
| 00:31:18.40 | Tom Theodorus | Move to approve the consent calendar items for a B and C second. |
| 00:31:23.06 | Jill Hoffman | All in favor? Aye. Motion passes. Moving on to item five, public hearings. |
| 00:31:23.80 | Tom Theodorus | Hi. |
| 00:31:32.46 | Jill Hoffman | Item 5A, this is an induction and first reading by reading title only and ordinance of the city council of Sausalito to modify SMC section 10. 288080 regarding the management plan and annual compliance review standards for emergency shelters in the emergency shelter overlay zone and amend the zoning ordinance map to to remove the MLK site at 610 Coloma 100 Ebtide and the school district site at 630 Nevada Street from the emergency shelter overlay zone. and continue the matter for public hearing to May 17th for a second reading and adoption. And I believe Lily is going to make the presentation. Thank you. |
| 00:32:20.23 | Lily Whalen | Thank you, Mayor Hoffman, council members. My name is Lily Whalen, your city clerk and assistant city manager. |
| 00:32:20.25 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you, Mayor. |
| 00:32:26.29 | Lily Whalen | tonight. This item is a zoning ordinance text and map amendment regarding modifications to the existing emergency shelter ordinance, including removal of sites from the emergency shelter overlay zone. To provide some background, in 2007, Senate Bill 2 was adopted, which required among other items, cities and counties to address housing needs for the homeless. As a refresher, SB2 requires cities to identify at least one zoning district in their city where emergency shelters are allowed by right without any special permits. Emergency shelters are defined by the state as temporary housing for homeless persons that is limited to occupancy of six months or less by a homeless person. There are limited standards that the city is allowed to apply to such shelters, such as the number of beds, parking requirements, proximity to other shelters, among some other items that are on the screen right now. Otherwise, the shelter is mandated to be subject to the same standards as other uses in that zoning district that the city has picked. To provide some background on the existing ordinance, the city currently has an ordinance that addresses the state's requirements. In 2012, the city adopted an updated housing element, which included a program promising to address the requirements of SB2. And here's some background on how an overlay of the PI zone was selected to address the state's requirements. During the 2010 through 2012 housing element task force meetings, the task force discussed both the public institutional and the Marin Ship industrial zoning districts as potential zoning districts to address the requirements of SB2. the task force ultimately selected the public institutional zoning district as the recommended district to allow shelters. In October of 2012, after 50 public meetings, the city council adopted the city's 2009 through 2014 housing element, which included the designation of the entire public institutional zoning district as the district in which emergency shelters would be principally allowed. And here's a list of all of the sites that are included in our public institutional zoning district. So these are the sites that were initially considered for being sites to allow shelters on. Here's the zoning map, the dark purple. Um... Thank you. It's two purples, so the purple I'm referring to is this color. Purple, this is City Hall right here, are the sites that are zoned for public institutional use. In May of 2014, in recommending adoption of the emergency shelter ordinance, the planning commission recommended the entire PI district. Note that because the post office site, the bay model, and the machine shop sites are all in the PI zone, this also included a marineship-specific plan amendment to principally permit emergency shelters on those sites, which are public institutional sites in the marineship. In June of 2014, the City Council met and directed the Planning Commission to provide a recommendation on a modified emergency shelter ordinance which would allow for an emergency shelter overlay zone to include only public institutional sites which are owned by the city of Sausalito or the Sausalito school district and therefore that eliminated sites all the sites in the partnership and the PG&E site as well In July of 2014, the Planning Commission met again and recommended that the council limit the emergency shelter overlay zone to only public institutional sites owned by the city of Sausalito or the school district, with the exception of the Spencer Fire Station site. And therefore, the recommendation was to eliminate the Spencer Fire Station site. The planning commission indicated that the reasons for eliminating the Spencer fire station site from the overlay included no access to supportive services in the neighborhood and limited transportation access to supportive services elsewhere. So this is your current overlay zone, the sites that are in it. In July of 2014, the council adopted the emergency shelter ordinance, which established the emergency shelter overlay zone, which is currently composed of these sites. And this is the city hall site, police station, fire station, the fire station on Johnson Street, the downtown parking lot areas, the Spinnaker restaurant area, the City Corporation yard on Nevada Street, the school district site on Nevada Street, and the MLK site in Coloma. And so these sites have been in place in the emergency shelter overlay zone for almost two years now. In January of 2015, the city adopted an updated housing element. During the state's review of the housing element, they determined that the adopted ordinance related to emergency homeless shelters overreached and required a couple of modifications in order to comply with the state's requirements. The updated housing element, which was adopted by the council, includes a program, Program 27, to modify the emergency homeless shelter ordinance to address the state's requirements. |
| 00:38:10.07 | Lily Whalen | In early February 2015, the Planning Commission reviewed the required text changes as required by the state in addition to Housing Element Program 27 and recommended the changes to the council. In late February of 2015, the council reviewed the text changes. During the review at the council meeting, there was public testimony indicating concern with some of the sites in the existing emergency shelter overlay zone and their proximity proximity to schools and these sites were specifically the city corporation yard the school district site on Nevada and MLK site on Coloma At that point, the council appointed a two-member task force composed of Vice Mayor Withy and Mayor Hoffman to discuss issues that had been raised by the public that evening. The City Council Task Force met three times in 2015 to discuss the issues raised by the community regarding the location of those three sites. The city must show that we have capacity for our unmet need, which is 23 unsheltered homeless. And because our ordinance restricts the number of beds per shelter to 20 beds maximum, we have to show capacity for two shelters in the city. After reviewing the state's requirements and the capacity of each site in the emergency shelter overlay zone, and after much discussion, the task force recommended the removal of the school district site on Nevada Street and the MLK site on Columbus Street from the emergency shelter overlay zone. In order to determine if it's feasible to eliminate the corporation yard, in addition to the school district site on Nevada Street and MLK site on Columbus Street from the emergency shelter overlay zone and still maintain capacity in the zone for the two 20 bed shelters, staff reviewed the remaining sites with the city council task force and analyzed the feasibility of each to support two 20 bed shelters within the planning period, which extends through 2023. So on the screen is the list of the existing sites today in the emergency shelter overlay zone. So we looked at the sites in order to determine if a shelter was feasible physically within the planning period. The city hall site was found physically feasible for one shelter in the parking lot and a second in the park. They have to be at least 300 feet away from each other and that's a distance of over 300 feet. The corporation yard was found feasible for one shelter. The MLK site at Columbus was found feasible for a shelter. However, the site contains one kindergarten through eighth grade school and one preschool through fifth grade school. The school district site on Nevada Street was found feasible for one shelter. However, the site contains a kindergarten through eighth grade school and one preschool. The police and fire station sites were not found to be feasible in the planning period because remaining areas of buildable space on the site are either too narrow or are necessary for the station's current operations. The municipal parking lots number two and three are covered under ordinance 1128, which would require voter approval for such a use. With this ordinance in effect, it's infeasible that this site would be suitable to accommodate an emergency shelter within the planning period because the use would be subject to a public vote. The Spinnaker restaurant and parking lot property is covered by a 40-year lease, which was entered into in 1992, extending through 2032. And with that lease in place, it's infeasible that the site would be suitable to accommodate an emergency shelter within the planning period. parking lot and then finally parking lot number one is also kind of covered under ordinance 1128 and was found to be infeasible for the reasons that I mentioned for parking lots two and three So staff found that the City Hall site and the corporation site were the most feasible to support two 20 bed shelters in the planning period. Although the City Hall site could potentially support two shelters at one time, one in the parking lot and one in the park. It's unlikely that HDD would accept the city's reliance on one site to show feasibility for the two 20 bed shelter requirement. And therefore, the council's task force recommended elimination of the school district site on Nevada Street and MLK site on Coloma Street. Those are the two sites that contain the schools from the emergency shelter overlay zone and then the retention of the other six sites. The required text amendments remain the same from when the council reviewed them in February of 2015. These text amendments are technical amendments to the management section of the ordinance and were committed to in the city's existing housing element under program 27. The required amendments are located in the emergency shelter operations section of the adopted ordinance. The first two amendments are related to the management plan. The management plan is allowed by SB2, but is only allowed as a checklist of items. It's not allowed to be discretionary or require any approval by the city. So number one, the first amendment is the removal of the requirement to make the management plan for approval by the city. So number one, the first amendment is the removal of the requirement to make the management plan for approval by the community development director, the city is not allowed to do that. So we need to remove that. Two is to clarify that the list of services is not a list of required services by a shelter, but a list that the shelter is required to report on if they provide those services. So we added the phrase to the extent applicable to that section. And the third amendment is the removal of the annual report. This report was intended to be required by the provider on an annual basis and describe their compliance with the city standards. But since the city does not require such a report for other uses in the same base zoning district, the PI zone, we cannot require a special report for emergency shelters, and therefore this needs to be removed. |
| 00:44:27.45 | Lily Whalen | The Planning Commission reviewed the amendments on March 30th of this year and recommended to the council that the council move forward with the tax amendments. in addition to the removal of the MLK site and the school district site, and then also strongly consider the removal of the corporation yard site from the emergency shelter overlay zone, if feasible alternatives can be identified that meet the city's obligations under SB 2. |
| 00:44:55.47 | Lily Whalen | Staff is indicating the staff report that this zoning ordinance amendment is consistent with a number of policies in the housing element, including program 27, which requires the very text amendment that I just went over. As stated in the staff report, this minor text amendment and map amendment is exempt from environmental review for the same reasons that the original ordinance was exempt from CEQA. In terms of public notice and correspondence, the city sent out a notification of the text and map amendment in a variety of ways that's on the screen. And you also have many pieces of correspondence that were received prior to the production of the staff report in addition to late mail. Late mail were forwarded to you and in front of you tonight. With that, staff is recommending the council introducing rebuy title only the ordinance which modifies the management plan and annual compliance review standards as required by Housing Element Program 27. And amend the zoning ordinance map to remove the MLK site at 610 Coloma and 100 Ebtide and the school district site at 630 Nevada from the emergency shelter overlay zone. Continue the public hearing to May 17th for a second reading and adoption. Alternatively, the council may continue the hearing and direct staff to work with its council task force to either identify alternative sites that may be substituted for the Sausalito Corporation yard site |
| 00:46:03.99 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 00:46:21.61 | Lily Whalen | and still provide sufficient capacity for the two 20 bed shelters within the planning period. And then return to the planning commission for a recommendation on the alternative sites and then subsequently to the council for adoption. Or to identify an alternative overlay zoning district for the emergency shelter overlay zone that provides sufficient capacity for the two 20 bed shelters within the planning period. Again, return to the Planning Commission for a recommendation and subsequently to the Council for adoption. In consideration of both of the alternatives, the council should provide, staff is recommending the council provide direction on if the council would like all alternative properties in Sausalito to be considered, or just those properties owned by the city. In the staff report, we have provided an attachment, which is a listing of all of the sites in the city that are owned by the city of the Sausalito with their zoning district designation. The majority of them are public institutional, public park, open space, and open area. There has been significant communication from residents received regarding the removal of the corporation yard site. The council may consider the removal of this additional site tonight, however, The issue with the removal of any of the sites, including the school sites, is that the city has less ability to show capacity to provide emergency shelters to meet the homeless population need. That concludes my staff report, and I'm available for questions as well as your community development director. Thank you. |
| 00:47:49.19 | Ray Withy | I have some... Questions? |
| 00:47:51.50 | Jill Hoffman | Betty, so at this point we take questions from city council and then after that we'll have public comment. So yes, Vice Mayor with you, you were the first one to raise your hand. |
| 00:48:01.30 | Ray Withy | Thank you. I have a few questions to begin, and then I'll sort of yield for others. |
| 00:48:13.72 | Ray Withy | OK, when this, we've, if you look at the public institutional zone, From what I can see in the analysis and what I learned when we discussed it in the subcommittee, is that from what I can really see is that basically, in the PI zone, If you take the two schools off of it, you know, because there's currently schools occupying the sites and therefore a little unrealistic to have them as shelters, there's really only two viable sites left. This site and the corporation yard. Is that sort of right? Because your site analysis indicated that everything else was really not feasible. Within the planning period, correct. Within the planning period. Okay. So, um, |
| 00:49:11.91 | Lily Whalen | Within the planning period, correct. |
| 00:49:18.13 | Ray Withy | And where did the number 20 come from? |
| 00:49:23.99 | Lily Whalen | The number 20 is the maximum number of beds in our existing adopted ordinance that a shelter can have. |
| 00:49:31.30 | Ray Withy | Could we change that if we wanted to to 25? Yes. Okay. And so if we change that from 20 to 25, the number of shelters that we would have to provide capacity for and not build, just show that it's possible to at some future point, could be reduced to one, couldn't it? Correct. Okay. |
| 00:49:34.32 | Lily Whalen | Yes. |
| 00:49:56.54 | Ray Withy | So, Um, Thank you. |
| 00:50:00.34 | Tom Theodorus | Thank you. |
| 00:50:00.36 | Ray Withy | Okay. |
| 00:50:00.64 | Tom Theodorus | Thank you. |
| 00:50:00.88 | Ray Withy | That's all I've got for now. |
| 00:50:01.97 | Tom Theodorus | Thank you. because it relates to this. I understand that the capacity was determined by the homeless count of 23 at some point. Now, have we had a subsequent homeless count and would that affect the number of beds that we need to provide for? |
| 00:50:19.36 | Lily Whalen | There has been a subsequent count, but we don't have to, because we adopted this in 2014, right now we don't have to look at that. When we look at our housing element in 2023, when we look at updating it, we'll have to look at the homeless count at that point in time. |
| 00:50:38.07 | Tom Theodorus | Does that count higher or lower than the 23? |
| 00:50:40.37 | Jill Hoffman | Well, at this point, that's irrelevant. It's 23 right now. That's what we have to plan for during this cycle. Is that correct? Thanks. Correct. Okay. |
| 00:50:54.49 | Linda Pfeiffer | May I have a question? Yes. Go ahead. Okay. So, Lily, looking at the list of options, I see we have parking lot 2 downtown and parking lot 3 downtown. And to the comment that we heard just recently, it was a point that I've raised up in prior years, we could raise the bed count and just have one site. So I guess my question is, staff had initially said that the parking lot two and three, or just one of them, was not feasible because there would need to be a vote. I recall that with Measure F, when we needed a vote, we had a vote in like 12 weeks, you know, from the point of realizing we needed one, it happened. So I guess my question is, why couldn't we have a vote? |
| 00:51:54.78 | Lily Whalen | I believe that HCD would consider that a constraint to providing the required homeless shelter housing to go through that hurdle of requiring a vote of the people. |
| 00:52:04.86 | Linda Pfeiffer | Well, if we had the vote now and sort of, in other words, without waiting for, you know, an agency to come forward, we could conceivably have the vote now and ask the city if they were comfortable with designating one of these downtown parking lots as a homeless zone. You could. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. |
| 00:52:30.86 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, so just to be clear where we are, we're talking about homeless shelters, we're talking about providing for planning for them, not actually building them, and if we move the number per... shelter from 20, which it currently is down to 23, which is our number. THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK we take one of the shelters off and we only have to plan for one. We take off the corporation yard. We only have city hall. We have plenty of capacity for that. And that would, is that right? Mm-hmm. |
| 00:53:04.21 | Lily Whalen | That's our number. |
| 00:53:05.69 | Jill Hoffman | That's correct. Thanks, okay, are we ready to move on to public comment? |
| 00:53:11.74 | Linda Pfeiffer | I have some other questions. I think it's pretty amusing that the same argument I've been making since 2014 suddenly has traction tonight, but it's nice to see that. So I guess one of the things that state law SB2 has designated that cities have control over in terms of defining the the the the shelter sites is parking number of beds and duration of stay we've already established that we've got a 23 census so you know we would upping it to 23 beds we could meet that duration of stay right now at 90 days, maximum 180 days, strikes me as quite, it seems excessive. And so my first question is, can staff clarify for me the difference between a large scale, a large scale, Homeless center versus... Home an emergency homeless shelter |
| 00:54:32.40 | Linda Pfeiffer | Well, I guess I had seen a definition of an emergency homeless shelter as a shelter that provided for short-term needs, night-to-night stays, versus a large, you know, homeless center. For example, Homeward Bound has their main campus, which is, you know, quite large and runs a wonderful, very robust service. But then they also have a smaller Mill Street Center, which has stays for up to one month, 30 days at a time. And that is, I guess, classified as the... emergency homeless shelter versus the more robust, you know, homeless. Thank you. Homeless Services Center. And so when I... I know that in earlier conversations and outreach at Homeward Bound, the message was that it seems like there's a difference between the amount of time that the major homeless center requires, recommends in terms of stays versus the smaller emergency homeless shelters. |
| 00:56:04.38 | Lily Whalen | So the city is required to provide zoning for, and it's on the screen here in the blue box, an emergency shelter that's housing with minimal support services for homeless persons is limited to occupancy of six months or less by a homeless person. During the Planning Commission hearings in 2014, when these standards were being developed, the length of stay was definitely a topic of discussion by the Planning Commission. I believe it by the council as well and the 90 days was discussed as well as can we shrink that amount of time or not we spoke with hcd at the time and they said that we needed to speak with homer bound we let them know that we were adopting this ordinance related to sb2 and if 90 a stay of less than 90 days would be prohibited to prohibitive for a shelter to provide services, and they said it was. |
| 00:56:59.23 | Linda Pfeiffer | Well, I think, I guess what I'm trying to clarify with city staff is if you were talking to the larger center of homeward bound, first of all, HCD, that was a recommendation. It was not a state mandate. I mean, per state law, we have, you know, certain, you know, we have a lot of flexibility in terms of what we can do on the council, but more specifically, I think that there is a difference between talking to the broader, large scale, Homeward bound center versus the it's what's my understanding is the smaller Mill Street Center, which is classified as an emergency homeless shelter, which only has stays of up to one month at a time, night to night. So that was my question. Thank you. |
| 00:57:47.76 | Jill Hoffman | Any other questions from council before we move on to public comment? I have six public comment cards. Can I show hands of people that would like to speak during this? Okay, so a few more than six. That's fine. But would anybody, does anybody have an objection to? I actually have. |
| 00:58:04.53 | Linda Pfeiffer | I actually have just two more quick questions. Okay, I'm here |
| 00:58:08.78 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, bring your cards up if you could. And would anybody have an objection to limiting comments to two minutes instead of three in light of the number? |
| 00:58:17.41 | Jeffrey Chase | Yes, yes. I have an objection. |
| 00:58:19.99 | Jill Hoffman | All right, okay, well. Well, if you can, do your comments. I mean, you know. I'm not thinking of that. All right. If you can limit your comments to two minutes, that's great. |
| 00:58:31.70 | Linda Pfeiffer | If you're not going to be a Matt and Mary, I have a quick question. Yes. |
| 00:58:35.80 | Jill Hoffman | Yes, Lily. Oh, that's okay. |
| 00:58:42.60 | Linda Pfeiffer | So, Lily, a quick question. This is just a point of clarification historically. So this was passed in July of 2014. Correct. This was passed in July of 2014. And just as a point of clarification, it's my recollection. I had sent out a newsletter listing all the sites. And the folks around the Spencer Firehouse organized and came down and really made a concerted kind of effort to educate the council as to why it made sense to remove the Spencer Firehouse. My recollection was that was how that got removed. In other words, it was response from the residents. In 2015, subsequent newsletters, people from the school sites found out and they also came in and were upset. Now we're having the corporation yard |
| 00:58:43.85 | Unknown | So we're going to put questions. |
| 00:58:52.56 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:58:52.64 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:58:52.69 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:59:37.70 | Linda Pfeiffer | come up and you know they're rightfully upset again I just want to get back and clarify that The park the only thing that's standing in our way of doing the parking lot to which I don't see as an inhibitor at all It's just a simple vote which could happen in eight weeks or less or I don't know what the I know it certainly happened quick for measure F and Also that the scope of beds could be 23 and we could do one site and that the duration of stay in my opinion could be 30 days And it meets the the HCD request that we check with Homeward Bound because that fits their Mill Street. So just a point of clarification on that. |
| 01:00:17.41 | Lily Whalen | So a vote of the people would have to go to the November election. So that's when the vote would go. Sorry, the other points. Sorry. Sorry. |
| 01:00:27.94 | Linda Pfeiffer | that the duration of stay, the Mill Street Center is 30 days, and so that is one of the homeward bound facilities, so that would meet the requirement, because it is under our jurisdiction to designate how long the length of stay is. Thank you. |
| 01:00:45.69 | Lily Whalen | It is. We would have to discuss with HCD. The specific direction from HCD at the time when we asked them the question, I believe, was to talk to Homeward Bound. |
| 01:00:46.92 | Linda Pfeiffer | You would have to. |
| 01:00:55.11 | Lily Whalen | Thank you. |
| 01:00:55.12 | Linda Pfeiffer | Yeah, but Homeward, yeah, okay, thank you. I guess my point was that Homeward Bound has |
| 01:00:55.14 | Lily Whalen | So we'd have to |
| 01:01:00.76 | Linda Pfeiffer | talking to Homeward Bound or talking to Homeward Bound about the limitations or the night-to-night stay durations of their true emergency shelter scope building, you know, service that they do, which my understanding is just 30 days. |
| 01:01:16.47 | Lily Whalen | THE END OF THE END OF THE I recall correctly the question that was put to them is in Sausalito if a shelter was going to be operated would a 90-day stay be prohibited or not? |
| 01:01:28.45 | Linda Pfeiffer | prohibitive okay and so and the other element where we have leeway is is parking it seems like we've we've kind of in the current ordinance we have allowed for very minimal parking standards that is another thing we can look at correct in terms of looking at perhaps the need for more parking |
| 01:01:52.45 | Lily Whalen | Yeah, that's one thing that can be regulated by the city. |
| 01:01:53.93 | Linda Pfeiffer | Thank you. Thank you very much. |
| 01:01:56.78 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, I have, I'm just going to name off three names that I have here on my list. And if those three people could line up, that would make us go a little bit faster. The first three cards I have are Lance Alameda, Ivan Glover and Keith Stone King. Lance, you're on. |
| 01:02:14.79 | Lance Alameda | Thank you. Those of you who know me, I'm Lance Alameda, also known as The Walking Dad, if you've seen me around town. What I've heard tonight so far is pretty encouraging, based on the fact that my opinion is that not only the schools, but the city corporation yard needs to be removed from the zoning consideration. Mostly because the City Corporation yard is only 120 yards away from Willow Creek. And it is on the direct route of travel to the main bus stop that a great many kids use every day. And although I know nobody here intends to build a homeless shelter, it's only zoning. What you're saying is you're putting a key in a lock and turning it and saying, I'm not opening the door. But you five are not always going to be in those seats. So I don't know who I can trust on this matter. So I feel I have to step up and say, listen, You know who doesn't have a vote here tonight? Not the residents. But all those kids who take the bus out of Sausalito, Their parents couldn't sign any petitions. Their parents don't feel they have a voice here. But here's the problem. I used to work with the homeless and I used to work with the mentally disabled. And I don't consider that the you know I I hate to say that I don't think the anchor routes are homeless that's that's not my point my point is there's a term called chronically homeless. and among the chronically homeless. Almost 30% of them are severely mentally ill. Almost 50% of them have substance abuse problems. And these are people that can't get a hold of their lives. They're the people that San Francisco shuttles over and drops them off on our doorstep because they don't want to deal with them. And so potentially, if you have a 20-bed or a 25-bed facility at the city corporation yard, you're looking at having five to six people who are mentally disturbed Half of them with drug abuse problems who are gonna be sitting there for 90 days or more just watching kids walk by. And on top of that, the state of California has already passed legislation that says that people who have been convicted as sexual predators, if you have to register as a sex offender, You can now say you're homeless and check yourself into a homeless shelter. So I'm urging you, I know none of you want to be put in this position with the state, but I've also talked to many of you, you can say you can pull the corporation yard and still make the zoning requirements. It's going to be slim. But I think a slim margin is better than the chance of what's going to happen to some child. I don't think you want that on your conscience. We've already had one murder on Nevada Street. by Conrad Smith, who was mentally ill. He killed his landlord, and then he killed himself in prison. And he lived there. He was one of us. We saw him every day. What's going to happen when it's somebody we don't know? that we can't police. because you've already given the state the rights to any oversight. Thank you. In closing, go Giants, go Dubs, go Sharks. Thank you. |
| 01:05:22.61 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:05:22.71 | Lance Alameda | Thank you. |
| 01:05:22.83 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. OK. |
| 01:05:26.54 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you, everyone. All of us until we come. |
| 01:05:28.30 | Jill Hoffman | Ivan Glover. |
| 01:05:28.34 | Jeffrey Chase | Ivan Glover. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:05:29.43 | Jill Hoffman | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:05:29.51 | Jeffrey Chase | by the way. |
| 01:05:29.91 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 01:05:29.97 | Jeffrey Chase | Okay. Just so we know. Thank you. |
| 01:05:33.58 | Ivan Glover | What? That's the way it is. Madam Mayor? |
| 01:05:36.28 | Jill Hoffman | Uh, okay. We're going to we're going to be. Be respectful and we're going to It's, You had your chance, and now it's Mr. Glover's chance. Mr. Glover. |
| 01:05:49.22 | Ivan Glover | Madam Mayor and fellow members on the City Council. My name is Ivan Glover. I lived at 523 Nevada Street for nine years, and subsequent to that, my stepdaughter and her family are still living there. And when I lived there, one of the joys of being in Sausalito was listening to the kids going to school in the morning. I was single, and that was a great advantage for living there. What concerns me is, and I totally support what the previous speaker says, so I won't reiterate any of that. But there is a damage being done to the homes across from the corporation yard by any means of having homeless shelter across the street. the value of those properties will decrease. There is no question about that. I'm a very experienced real estate developer, having confronted this problem in other cities and being involved in hundreds of homes and subdivisions in Marin alone. I don't want to see what my family has to go through and their neighbors by depreciation of property values. This is a case of confiscation of equity without. any representation or financial consideration being paid for that? Why should those people who live on that little stretch of street opposite the corporation yard support Mm-hmm. this process when the rest of the city gets off scot-free. I mean, this should be shared by all of the residents of SourceFledo, not just those homeowners. So I urge you to consider that when you make your decision, and I hope that the homeless shelter goes ahead, but not at the corporation yard. Thank you. |
| 01:07:49.52 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Keith Stone King's next. |
| 01:07:58.04 | Keith Stone King | Good evening. been a while since I've had to speak before the City Council, Madam Mayor, I'm gonna address three issues that The others haven't addressed yet. And that the state has come back and asked you to remove three items from the ordinance. Item number one, the requirement that the management plan be approved by the city. Item number two, clarifying that a shelter operator address the services listed in the management plan to the extent such services are required by the shelter. And three, removing the requirement FOR A SHELTER OPERATORS to provide an annual report for compliance with the conditions. Now, in my mind as a forensic CPA, Those are good internal controls. Now, I think the state has overstepped its bounds. If I was doing an audit, I would be coming in and I would be making these kind of recommendations so you have internal controls. the gentleman just before me How do we know what's going on if you don't have some type of reporting? In fact, I would go a step further instead of an annual report, a quarterly report. as to what's going on, how it's going on, And if we're really, needing this kind of program in this city. Right now, I think the city council and the staff have done a tremendous job in getting this stuff into the ordinance. I strongly urge you to keep it in the ordinance and go back to the state and saying, you've overstepped your bounds. Remember. Government only becomes as powerful as the people who give it to you. And we haven't given the city or the state the right to tell us how to manage this situation. It's our situation. It's not the state's situation. That concludes my bid. Thank you. |
| 01:10:09.31 | Jill Hoffman | THANK YOU. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:10:14.24 | Jill Hoffman | OK. OK. Oh yeah, yeah, if you guys could hold your applause to the end, that would be very helpful. Ruthann Spike, Leslie Monahan, and Carol. Katron, I think. Sorry, I know. Sorry. Ruth Ann. |
| 01:10:33.88 | Ruthann Spike | Hi, I'll be brief. I know time's of the essence. I'd just like everybody who's here to protest the corporation yard as being a site for this type of shelter to raise their hand. Thank you. |
| 01:10:47.01 | Jill Hoffman | Excellent use of time. Thank you, Ruthann. Leslie Monian. |
| 01:10:53.97 | Leslie Monahan | and City Council members. |
| 01:10:55.25 | Jill Hoffman | Speak into the microphone, please. Sorry. |
| 01:10:57.66 | Leslie Monahan | Good evening. My husband and I moved here 24 years ago and enjoyed living in the Willows condominiums. And for many years, it was sad to me that there were very few young children living nearby. And that's changed in recent years, and I think that's in large part due to the improvement of our schools. And I'm glad to see lots more young families nearby. On the other side of the coin, I also read the weekly police log in the newspaper. And having moved here from San Francisco 24 years ago, at first it was very benign, and it's becoming more serious, the types of crimes that I read. that are occurring in our town. So I'm sure that parents will consider the safety of their children when they consider where to live and raise their families. As a society, we need to provide not only housing, but also counseling, job training, and treatment centers for those in need. However, a shelter in the middle of a neighborhood so close to an elementary and nursery school is not appropriate. I urge the city council to remove the corporation yard as a viable option. |
| 01:12:08.91 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Okay. Carol Cutron. Carol, go ahead. |
| 01:12:15.66 | Carol Cotton | My name is Carol Cotton. I've lived in Sausalito off and on since the 60s. with jobs and so forth taking me away. Recently I've been here 15 years, so I've lived all over town. I am a very visual person, so I thought given that the council lives in Old Town, Reed Lane, Sausalito Boulevard, et cetera, that you might like to see what I see every day. |
| 01:12:41.43 | Unknown | You might. |
| 01:12:50.03 | Carol Cotton | This was taken yesterday. you And this is what I see often. |
| 01:12:58.50 | Carol Cotton | and this point as well. Thank you. Thank you. This is what I see driving home every day and every morning. Thank you. And my understanding is that these shelters are open from 8 p.m. or 5 p.m. in the afternoon to 8 a.m. in the morning, which means that the people who live in them have to find a place to go. During the day. This corporation yard looks like the perfect place. It's not seen from the street. |
| 01:13:32.62 | Jill Hoffman | Oh, ma'am. |
| 01:13:33.37 | Carol Cotton | People driving by cannot see into it. |
| 01:13:33.64 | Jill Hoffman | people driving by you're addressing us you're addressing the council that's okay it's fine okay Go ahead. We did pause your time, though. |
| 01:13:48.89 | Carol Cotton | Thank you. So during the day, people have to find a place to go and a place to be. The corporation yard has walls around two sides. And the one side is completely open to a wooded area which you're not able to see in the wooded area from the street driving by. I walk down in there and I see the children are building little stumps for circles for discussions. They're building tents out of limbs. It's a place where they go. to work on the environment and learn about it. They walked down there from Robins Nest and I think we should be encouraging the safety of our children. Thank you. |
| 01:14:38.84 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Okay, the next three speakers are Augie Koslin, Jenny Flynn, and Paul and Ursula Leffingwell. |
| 01:14:50.48 | Augie Koslin | Good evening, my name is Ogi Kashi. Almost right. Thank you for giving me the time, Madam Mayor and the board, I mean the council. I've, this is my third time speaking about this subject and from the beginning I wanted the, both school sites and the corporation yard off the list because for me it's just a matter of safety for the kids that go to the schools and my daughter as well. She is right here tonight. And for me, that's, you know, safety of children. There's nothing higher. And I know we need to help our less fortunate. AND, to get the whole city healthy. This one is non-negotiable for me. And in terms of what the school has done for the city, has changed the city's population diversity, and has really helped Sausalito become a full city, which wasn't for many, many years. And I know parents who come from outside of Sausalito just to go to Walla Creek. And they're concerned about their, you know, the school's concerned about how much the student body is and how much they're growing. And I think the corporation yard will reduce the student body and will kill the growth and expansion and popularity of the city for families. And I strongly urge the City Council to remove the corporation yard and the two school sites off the list. Thank you very much. |
| 01:16:21.12 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Ginny Flynn? |
| 01:16:26.72 | Jenny Flynn | Members of the council, my name is Jenny Flynn. As a Litho Street resident, I'm concerned about the prospect of City Hall being designated as a future homeless site I'm not sure. while the site may be classified as feasible for one or even two shelters, does it make sense to build them near the library, which attracted approximately 4,300 children last year to programs? In addition, there are some very vulnerable seniors living across the street in rotary housing. If the reasoning for eliminating the MLK site on Coloma and the district site on Nevada Street, both of which were considered feasible by the staff, was concerned for the safety of children, Can you tell me why the city hall site should not be considered by the same standard and removed? also are you considering a second structure for this site Would it be on the basketball court or at the expense of the new expensive playground and park that we're building? I would like to point out that I don't discriminate against homeless people by their appearance or their circumstances. I volunteered in a homeless shelter in San Francisco for two years. and have had first-hand knowledge of their many problems. I think my main concern is for the safety of children and seniors and for our loss of control over the management of any future shelter. Thank you. |
| 01:17:59.64 | Jill Hoffman | you Thank you. |
| 01:18:00.97 | Jenny Flynn | I'm not. |
| 01:18:01.04 | Jill Hoffman | And next is Paul or Ursula Leffiwell. I'm the designated. Yeah, that's okay, thank you. I figured. |
| 01:18:08.14 | Ursula Leffingwell | I figured. I have a very hoarse voice, so please let me know if you can't hear me. |
| 01:18:13.04 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:18:13.69 | Ursula Leffingwell | And, Lots has been said already, but I like to address because I have some notes here. And so please excuse me if this is a repetition. |
| 01:18:21.49 | Ruthann Spike | Okay. |
| 01:18:26.59 | Ursula Leffingwell | Paul and I have been residing across this city hall for over 40 years. First, we like to say that we are not the people who say, not in my backyard. Homelessness is a serious and unfortunate issue and should be considered as that. we realize being a little late to this discussion, before contemplated this city hall location would be appropriate for homeless shelter. Lots of time and effort in meeting Meetings with planning commissions, special forces, task force, city council meetings, and so on, have been spent to arrive at the point regarding this SB2 issue, the homeless issue. However, it appears that this issue has come to the point where only two feasible locations may be Uh. maybe only the locations This being one city hall parking lot and one as well, the new Robin Sweeney parking under construction are left for two Two, so far now two. 2,000 square feet shelters needed. This has been clarified. I guess this can be changed to only one. Hopefully. Now I have a question. The first one is we understand 23 homeless people have been identified in South Slido needing shelter plus parking, one space for people. Now who are these individuals? Male, female or females? Where are they living now? Have their mental states been evaluated by professionals? Are they addicts, veterans, or temporarily needy? where will they go after a maximum stay of six months, which was stated in the staff report. helped. or not helped, rehabilitated or not. to a hopefully better path. Question two. they would be given minimal supportive services. What does that mean? Who would be responsible for these physical and mental needs as well as provisions? Who takes the fiscal and legal responsibilities? I guess that's homebound, I've heard that before. That's not what I said, I timed myself before. May I go on a little further? Not too much. |
| 01:21:12.64 | Jill Hoffman | May I... |
| 01:21:13.53 | Unknown | I'm not. |
| 01:21:15.25 | Jill Hoffman | Not too much. We have many people here to speak tonight. If you have one more sentence, that's fine. But I think we get the gist. |
| 01:21:24.58 | Ursula Leffingwell | We can go on. |
| 01:21:25.33 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. No? I think we understand. Do you have a wrap-up sentence? |
| 01:21:28.85 | Ursula Leffingwell | THE END OF END OF THE END OF THE END OF Big sense. |
| 01:21:34.90 | Ursula Leffingwell | we are asking you to please further evaluate these important issues. I brought up some more. possibly come up with alternative feasible site or sites and not only on city owned land, even if it needs further approval, voter approval, Thank you. |
| 01:21:55.92 | Jill Hoffman | What's the hurry? Thank you. Thank you for consideration. So the next three I have are Sarah Reedy, Jacques Ullman, and I think it's Rob Reedy or Risi. |
| 01:21:57.64 | Ursula Leffingwell | Thank you for considering. |
| 01:22:06.40 | Jill Hoffman | Reedy, so Sarah, you're up first. Jacques, next. And then Rob. |
| 01:22:16.96 | Sarah Reedy | you I'm a resident. having my children at South Salina Nursery School. I've been approached to many parents and moms around town, and because a lot of the parents, they are not able to come here. So I made a copy for each of you, of this petition of all the people that are not able to come. So I'm here to talk in, to cancel, to eliminate the corporation yard as one of the site I know there is a repetition, I know everything, but I'm a mom, I'm a resident, and I'm a this decision is going to be in your hand. So it takes one accident to make completely a change in the life of the kids. And we are the parents, we are responsible, and we cannot allow this to happen. So I'm asking you, one, each of you, To please, please. think of your Do you have kids? Do you have grandchildren? You will be able to feel confident to have your children going to school, walking in front of the corporation yard, and facing that logistic every single day? Do we want our kids to be having that memory to go to school and having that site, I don't think so. So I'm very, I don't have statistics. I've been following this for a year, but as a mom and as a resident, believing in this community, loving this community, want this community to grow even more, and believing in this Willow Creek Academy. Please, eliminate the corporation you are. I'm asking you, please. Thank you so much. |
| 01:23:49.22 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you, Jacques Ullman and... Jacques and Rob and the next person is Dr. Elizabeth Sutherland, I think anyway Jacques |
| 01:24:00.10 | Jacques Ullman | Jacques Ullman, I live on Litho Street, have for over 40 years. I'm really not comfortable with a situation where everyone is just fighting to keep this away from their neighborhood, and I don't want to be one of those. But I think that we shouldn't be expected to react to this issue without knowing more about it. I think that there needs to be a program in place for how to deal with the homeless. The homeless, I'm not an expert on this. There have been some very good statements about them, but they have a variety of problems. Sean, hold on a second. |
| 01:24:31.76 | Jill Hoffman | Mr. Jacob, I've asked you at least once. You're going to have to be respectful for other people. So this might be your last warning. |
| 01:24:41.67 | Jeffrey Chase | Okay, scapegoat. Thank you. |
| 01:24:43.30 | Jill Hoffman | Um, |
| 01:24:43.32 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. |
| 01:24:47.12 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, we're very close to taking a break. Mr. Jacobs? Thank you. |
| 01:24:55.96 | Jacques Ullman | Yeah, so my point is that I think it's a complicated issue, and there are people that we have a responsibility to. I'm very sympathetic to veterans who've been subjected to wars and other people who have unfortunate circumstances that they need help for, and I think that's what should be addressed first. If you have a program in place that is responsibly dealing with the homeless, and we know who they are, and maybe you need a triage when they come, there needs to be a capable person to decide, should they stay one night, two nights? Do they need to be brought to another institution where they need help? It's a complicated issue, and I don't feel we should be, as citizens, put in a position to decide whether we want this in our backyard or not because it's not defined. I think that we're not really facing the first issues that we be faced. The shelter comes later. |
| 01:25:51.46 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Okay, Rob, you're next. |
| 01:25:55.33 | Rob Reedy | Good evening. My name is Rob Reedy. I live across the street from the Corporation Yard, and this is my third time speaking as well since 2014. And my conviction and tone and message remains the same. I'd like to just put the Corporation Yard at the same level as the other two schools that we initially thought. And I'd like to share two quick stories to kind of back that up. One, I lived in San Francisco across the street, actually next door to a homeless shelter for four years. So my personal experience, I know it's not a place for families, it's not a place for children. There is an increased crime rate, I know. There is drug use, there is bad behavior, there's disrespect for the community. That's what I experienced personally. Second data point I have is that living there for 10 years and watching the community grow, literally as families and children. I have two daughters. I have two daughters. I'm proud, right? I love watching children walk up and down there, and that's part of our community, that's part of our neighborhood. And I do feel that if this is zoned and does pass, that it could be a dagger directly through our community. Not only for us directly 200 to 300 yards, but for literally all the families that have children in the future they'll be coming up and down that fairway for for a long time. So I urge you to please take the corporation yard off the list. Thank you. |
| 01:27:14.76 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Dr. Elizabeth Sutherland, Patricia Cornell, and Michael Henry are the next three. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. |
| 01:27:20.68 | Elizabeth Sutherland | Yes, ma'am. As I live over by the site that you're talking about this evening, and I'd like to sort of say that I like solutions with regard to treatment plans due to the fact that I'm a clinical psychologist specializing in geriatrics at the VA. with private practice and dealing with severe mental illness. There's over 3 million people in the United States each year that have an episode of homelessness, and people without homes have a higher rate of hospitalization for physical illnesses, mental illnesses, substance abuse, and other populations than other populations. When compared with the general population, people without homes have poor physical health, including higher rates of tuberculosis, hypertension, asthma, diabetes, as well as high risks for medical hospitalizations along with HIV and AIDS. Sexually transmitted diseases including HIV, AIDS are prevalent among some subgroups of people. without homes, age, gender and ethnicity, |
| 01:28:17.73 | Unknown | it. |
| 01:28:18.85 | Elizabeth Sutherland | are linked to such HIV-AIDS risk behaviors as injection drug use and high-risk sexual practices. Mental illness and homelessness is difficult to distinguish and it's very important. people with substance and other mental health experience even greater barriers to accessible housing than their counterparts, income deficits, stigma, need for community-aware, wrap-about systems, which we just don't have all those treatment plans in place in Sausalito. Um, the room. |
| 01:28:53.48 | Elizabeth Sutherland | So moving on to the next area, sex offenders. Among all sex offenders, so you're talking about parolees, probationers and unsupervised, the number of sex offenders registering as transients, which means that they don't have a home, has increased immensely due to the fact of when you look at these shelters And who's going to... Who's going to check? Who's going to check to make sure if they're sexual offenders? Who's going to go every day and see who's in the shelter, your 23 beds? California imposes various limitations on where registered sex offenders may live, depending on whether they're high risk sex offenders. or sexually violent predators. Through California State's registration and notification laws, housing options for sex offenders has diminished significantly. With fewer options available, the number of sex offenders registered as transient has increased. Common sense leads to the conclusion that a community cannot be safer when sex offenders are homeless. In this case, the empirical evidence supports common sense. Lack of stability is a primary contributing factor to the increased risk of reoffending, including sexual offending. Emotional and mental instability breaks down the ability to conform and leads to a greater risk of committing another sex act. There's two solutions, I don't know, I mean, I just, doing the research, I look at the fact that you brought up, the machine shop and I know it's a big discussion at the VA, I hear it at the VA. And I know that the VA acquired it in 2006, it's gonna cost Ooh. READY. Well, that and also... The other thing that I don't know if it's come up, but Homeless, it's a mobile trailer for transient housing, and it's done in New York. |
| 01:30:37.93 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. The next three are Patricia Cornell, Michael Henry, and Chris Perone. |
| 01:30:46.61 | Jill Hoffman | Patricia? Patricia Cornell? You're up. |
| 01:30:49.69 | Patricia Cornell | Good evening. Thank you. Well, first I'd like to say that I am very honest, so get used to it. Homeless people have died in Sausalito due to exposure to the cold because certain people put money first in... |
| 01:30:50.86 | Jill Hoffman | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:31:07.04 | Patricia Cornell | And people come somewhere after that. And the result is always the same, which is year after year, Thousands of homeless people die due to exposure to the cold. Because certain people... Didn't care enough. to go to the lumber yard. and build an emergency shelter. It doesn't cost much to save a life. Anyone... who needs shelter, has the right to have shelter in a safe neighborhood. until a shelter is built in Sausalito. The churches in Sausalito need to open their doors on cold nights as they do in Vallejo and San Jose now. Don't worry, I don't have too much more to say for now. For me, I put my safety at the top of my list. Any one of us could become homeless by way of a home being destroyed, Loss of a job. The Saucido shelter needs to be built. using the construction plan of other shelters, where each homeless person has their own small room with the locked door so they can sleep safely as there are bad and good homeless. there would be a bathroom, and a shower the shelter would be in a safe neighborhood. And lastly, The truth is most homeless are not mentally ill or on drugs, and people have no right to treat them as such. Homeless people have the right to their freedom. |
| 01:32:41.80 | Unknown | you |
| 01:32:42.06 | Patricia Cornell | They have the right to live outside of jails, and outside of barbaric mental institutions. Most homeless people have simply fallen on hard times, and they just need a hand up. Thank you. |
| 01:32:57.47 | Jill Hoffman | Michael Henry, Chris Perrone, and Jeff Jacobs, if he's still here. |
| 01:33:04.59 | Unknown | Hi, my name is Michael Henry. I will keep it short. I'm a parent of two young children. I live on Lincoln Drive above where the homeless shelter would be built. Everyone here has made fantastic points that I'm not going to echo. Thank you. I was encouraged by the questions that the council was asking amongst itself, and I'd encourage you to continue down that road. Thank you. |
| 01:33:26.97 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Chris Perrone? |
| 01:33:31.64 | Chris Perrone | Good evening, Mayor. My name is Chris Perrone. I also live on Lincoln Drive. I moved to Sausalito in 2009 with my soon-to-be wife. I moved from San Francisco, and it was a bit of a change, and I realized I'd moved into a very quiet town, it seemed like. In the last two to three years, I've noticed sort of a revitalization. There's a lot of young families have been moving into the area specifically moving into my block next door and it's been great you know I feel we we've for a while we felt like we were gonna have to maybe look elsewhere and move elsewhere we were not very encouraged with the local schools and all of that has changed in the last two years as Willow Creek has gotten a great reputation. The French school is here now. And I'm just surprised that we would that it would be considered to have all of that undone. by this because I'm afraid that families are going to take that into consideration as to Not whether or not they want to move here, but whether or not they want to stay here, and certainly whether or not they want to send their kids to Willow Creek. I'm not going to, again, reiterate a lot of the earlier points, but according to the National Alliance of Mental Health, the statistics are pretty clear. 46% of homeless people have either drug abuse problems or mental illness. That's just the national statistics. So you're talking in a 25-bed shelter, 12 of those individuals having some issues. And really, for me, it's the idea that it really is about how close it is to a preschool, how close it is to a daycare, how close it is to an elementary school. You know, 500 feet is not very far, particularly if the kids need to walk past it. And the idea that it would be put there is just morally offensive to a lot of people. I think it's the equivalent of having a stranger push your child into moving traffic. It's that sort of visceral reaction that people are having that, hey, this is just not a good idea. And I think people have a right to be very concerned and a little angry about it, actually. So I would strongly like to see that the corporate yard be removed from consideration. Thank you. |
| 01:36:01.09 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. I have two cards left, Jeff Jacob and Melanie Marchand. So if Jeff's here, this is your chance, going once. Melanie Marchand, are you here? Melanie, you're up. |
| 01:36:23.75 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:36:26.47 | Melanie Marchand | Thank you Mayor, Council and the rest of the community. I'm a mom. of a willow creaker and a tam high schooler my willow creaker is just on the verge, she's in fifth grade, and this is the first year, the last couple of months, that she gets to walk home from school by herself, if I'm home or to my parents' place. We live on one side of Nevada Valley, my parents, my dad's here, |
| 01:36:51.27 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:36:51.88 | Melanie Marchand | They live on the other side of Nevada Valley. they cross right in front of, she crosses right in front of the corporation yard like so many other kids do. So I'm also, like the first dad who spoke, really encouraged about what I'm hearing here. I understand, I think, the layer below you know, what what's happening here. we're trying to position this so that We're meeting the rules of the state, but we are not actually going to ever really plan to build that shelter in that spot. But what concerns me about this, it's kind of like we're in a game of chicken here. But we're not making the rules. The state is making the rules. And our neighborhoods and our kids, they hang in the balance. I really feel that we need to have a real look at this and see is there another spot? Can we go back to another spot in our Sausalito city. in our community, like the Marin ship, should we really be considering the Marin ship again. I know we don't want to set the precedent that we could have residential there, But the state is calling us every time that we try to game the system. And I just think maybe we should consider something that's less close to our neighborhoods. Thank you very much. |
| 01:38:08.17 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. The last card I have is John Dyer. |
| 01:38:19.31 | John Dyer | First of all I wanted to thank Linda Pfeiffer for her efforts over the years on this issue and tonight I want to thank Mr. Withey about his idea his comment about increasing the shelter to 25 beds I think that's going to do a lot to resolve this situation On February 24th of 2015 a large group of residents as you know and parents spoke out at the City Council meeting asking to remove the three emergency homeless shelter zones from the vicinity of the school somehow The task force came back with dropping two but leaving the closest one. the corporate yard is 128 yards from Robins Nest School and 140 yards from Willow Creek Academy And I don't understand why any resident of Sausalito would allow this. And I think you've heard that from other residents here. There are justifications, state mandate, other locations won't work. A shelter will never actually be built. But the corporate yard location for a homeless shelter, I think, justifies common sense. As you know, you're entrusted to be advocates for the residents of Sausalito and the highest priority are defenseless children of Sausalito and I don't think you would do anything to violate that trust I just had a few other comments. reading through some of the literature, Um, There's some. misinformation I think going around about the city's leasing process or a public vote will prevent a homeless shelter from being established once zoned for that use that's not the case and if you don't believe me you can call HCD like I did and ask them The other thing, it's been mentioned here, in March 2015, California announced that they would no longer enforce a law that prohibited registered sex offenders from living within 2,000 feet of a school or park so they can be at the homeless shelter. On the staff report page 5 it says this is a quote although City Hall could potentially support two shelters at one time it is unlikely that hcd would accept the city's reliance on one site I don't understand why staff seems to speculate on HCD's response to something and then propose a solution that will surpass the expectation. I'm not sure. I don't understand why we're crafting responses and a framework that goes beyond what is required. That's not a good negotiation tactic, I don't think. Um, another point, appendix six, I read Appendix 6. It's a report from the consultants, it's dated to January 22nd. 3rd, 2012, on page 4 it says, Given the general perceived incompatibility between emergency shelters, and residential areas M group and Karen Warner associates do not recommend identifying the public institution as a zoning district for permitting emergency homeless shelters |
| 01:41:27.06 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. I have no further speaker cards. |
| 01:41:27.08 | John Dyer | Thank you. |
| 01:41:36.77 | Jill Hoffman | I have no further speaker cards, and so I'll bring it back up to City Council for council discussion. |
| 01:41:43.75 | Ray Withy | Madam Mayor. Yes. So I. You may. |
| 01:41:44.33 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. So, you may. |
| 01:41:49.10 | Ray Withy | I'm not sure. Thank you all for coming. I have enormous empathy, sympathy, and agree with everything that you all said. I've been sort of on and off dealing with this issue before I became a city council member, joining the Housing Element Task Force back in end of 2010, early 2011. The last speaker actually hit on a very interesting fact that maybe you should know some history. Very interesting fact that the M Group, which was our consultant, our liaison with HCD. So how we know a lot about what the state requires in interpreting the law is through the aid of our consultants, you know. What they recommended in 2012 was that this mandated zoning change that we had to make should be made in the Marinship Industrial Zone. That was their recommendation. The city council in October 2012, just before I came on to the city council, made the decision to go with the public institutional zone as a whole. Thank you. just before I came onto the city council, made the decision to go with the public institutional zone as a whole. And I think the logic was, unfortunately, the marineship seemed too politically sensitive. And I'm just saying it the way I saw it, right? The marineship was too politically sensitive. And so the public institutional zone, just about the numbers, worked. And so we could convince HCD that if we designate, all we've got to do is designate a zone. We haven't got to do anything else. That if we designated a PI, would they go for it? And they did. Now, as we started then developing the ordinance to effectuate this and then work on the next housing element, it became clear that certain areas, part of our issue with the public institutional zone in Sausalito is that it is scattered around, in some cases, neighborhoods. There's no way we would consider zoning a residential neighborhood, and so there was a bit of a, you know, ambiguity there, if I say the least. But as we've taken off each of the sites, for Spencer, a fire station, the properties we didn't own, the two schools, obviously tonight we're gonna take the corporation yard off. I mean, that's obviously gonna happen. I'm left with the fact that I cannot in all conscience take the corporation yard off and keep City Hall on. Doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense if you'll allow me. Allow me 30 seconds. |
| 01:45:02.88 | Jill Hoffman | wrap-up sentence there, Vice Mayor? |
| 01:45:03.37 | Ray Withy | there, Vice Mayor? It doesn't make sense because we have a school just down across the street. We have kids come here nearly every day for classes, with their parents, with caregivers or whatever. So in the end, what is appearing to me is that the public institutional zone doesn't work. and that we need to find another one. |
| 01:45:43.12 | Linda Pfeiffer | Well, I want to thank everyone for coming. You can see the power of your words, the power of your voice when you get engaged. I want to put a little plug in for my newsletter. Send me an email. My email is on the city website. I sent out full descriptions of this in 2014, and in June of 2014, I made a motion to remove the corporation yard. I've had issues with this from the start. It's the reason I voted no. It's the reason I voted no for the housing element. That was another overreach in my opinion in terms of density. Looking at what's before us, to me the answer has been simple. It's been simple from the beginning. We have... the municipal parking lot two and municipal parking lot three you you heard before this issue is not going to come it's going to come back to us and i believe 2023 um you know we just do a little vote we we designated a allowance of a change of use and and we get parking lot two and parking lot three um you know approved and we have met that criteria um That zone is around the, it's in downtown. It's certainly monitored. It is surrounded by restaurants. If they have leftovers, they can easily bring that there. It's convenient. To me, it's never made sense to put these in the neighborhoods, and I just felt very strongly about that. The other thing is that I didn't hear anyone here in your emails or letters, your phone calls, or your testimonial tonight, say anything that said, oh, we should not help the homeless. And I know many of you have been out there helping the homeless and making a difference. And I think that's part of the spirit of Sausalito. And so I think that it's important that we keep this framed in that positive way, in that the message we heard tonight loud and clear was, you know, this is not the right place for this. And I completely agree with you. It's why I couldn't support it two years ago, and I can't support it today. In terms of, you know, politics and the marinship, I can assure you I've never been able to stop anything from happening up here on this dais. The only thing I can do is educate you, usually through my newsletter, in terms of, you know, things that are going on that you may not know about. And believe me, there's a lot out there. So the other comment I would make is duration of stay. 90 days, that was completely arbitrary. 180 days seems really overreach. I think 30 days is appropriate. Instead of one parking space per four people I would say two parking spaces for four people and then I would concur with the scope of beds at 25 with one site Thank you. |
| 01:48:52.73 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:48:59.35 | Unknown | Well, I do agree that the corporation yard is not the place for it. It's really interesting if you really look. You go up to the French school in the morning, 8 o'clock. Everybody's coming in by automobile. That doesn't happen. to Willow Creek and down that area. If you really look, the children are walking to school, which we really don't see much in Marin County. And I would hate really to disrupt anything that would put fear into the parents or the children for this facility. As far as the marineship goes, It's all private property. To my knowledge, the city doesn't really own any property down there. I think in the future, as we go along, and we have it maybe that City Hall is one place, but I really do believe that maybe this city should look for other pieces of property as they come up along Bridgeway and maybe purchase that for that reason. But as far as having it at the corporate yard, let the children be children. Thank you. |
| 01:50:27.64 | Tom Theodorus | Well, thank you all for coming. Public comments over, please. |
| 01:50:33.20 | Unknown | Because now all of the shelves are inside. Sir? |
| 01:50:35.65 | Tom Theodorus | Sir? Jeff. Jeff. |
| 01:50:36.36 | Unknown | Jeff, Jeff. |
| 01:50:37.39 | Jeffrey Chase | I'm sorry. Hey. |
| 01:50:41.96 | Jeffrey Chase | You heard what I said about scapegoats. Mr. Sir. |
| 01:50:44.44 | Jill Hoffman | Public comment is closed. |
| 01:50:45.91 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. |
| 01:50:46.28 | Jill Hoffman | I went outside of the office. Thank you. |
| 01:50:48.60 | Jeffrey Chase | Yeah. |
| 01:50:48.90 | Unknown | Thank you. Bye. Thank you. |
| 01:50:50.65 | Jill Hoffman | We're not. |
| 01:50:55.97 | Jeffrey Chase | Okay. Okay. |
| 01:50:58.72 | Jill Hoffman | All right, do we need to take a break? Where are they? |
| 01:50:58.74 | Jeffrey Chase | All right, do we need to take a break? Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:51:02.80 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 01:51:03.41 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. |
| 01:51:03.44 | Jill Hoffman | I know. |
| 01:51:04.64 | Jeffrey Chase | Oh, they're right. |
| 01:51:05.17 | Tom Theodorus | Jeff, I was about to speak and you interrupted me. |
| 01:51:06.82 | Jeffrey Chase | You interrupted me. Yeah. |
| 01:51:14.18 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. |
| 01:51:14.67 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. |
| 01:51:14.70 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:51:16.20 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Okay. |
| 01:51:17.67 | Jeffrey Chase | Get us in my chair. |
| 01:51:18.73 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. Do we want to take a break? Do we want to take a break? |
| 01:51:20.27 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. I'm going to break. |
| 01:51:22.51 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:51:22.53 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. |
| 01:51:23.24 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:51:23.46 | Jeffrey Chase | Yeah. |
| 01:51:24.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:51:25.65 | Tom Theodorus | Thank you. |
| 01:51:25.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:51:25.69 | Jill Hoffman | They don't want to hear you. |
| 01:51:25.85 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:51:25.87 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. |
| 01:51:25.97 | Unknown | . |
| 01:51:26.02 | Linda Pfeiffer | I'm here. |
| 01:51:26.63 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:51:26.95 | Linda Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 01:51:27.04 | Jill Hoffman | They do. |
| 01:51:27.10 | Linda Pfeiffer | They do. I think they were done. |
| 01:51:31.41 | Jill Hoffman | . Okay, we're still in session. If you would like to exit, that's fine, but thank you. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead, Tom. |
| 01:51:42.12 | Tom Theodorus | I'm going to thank everyone and everyone who's left. I thank you all for coming. And I don't take offense to, you know, even during a long, nice speech, but... |
| 01:51:48.33 | Jill Hoffman | during one. |
| 01:51:50.00 | Tom Theodorus | Um, Now, obviously we will be taking the corporation in the yard off and really what we, while the putting on the public institutional zone was well intentioned to give control for everyone, it's obviously not gonna work at this point. So, I mean, my recommendation is to, I think we're going to need to go back to our emergency shelter task force. Look and with staff look at what the alternatives are. I mean, our last recommendation from our consultant was the marineship, but we shouldn't limit it to that. I think we need to go back on that. I do want to count and I appreciate Councilmember Pfeiffer's creative solution, but going to a vote on the parking lots. First of all, we have this group on the schools. we went for the parking lots would probably have three times the size I don't think the vote would go on but but also more importantly the reason PI was done And it was done the council before you know two councils ago But the most important part was that there was some control if we go to a vote of the people and and for some reason it passes, which I give it no chance at all, but then all of a sudden we would have no control. It wouldn't come to the council. They could build on parking lot two a homeless shelter, and I can guarantee you I wouldn't want to be responsible for putting a homeless shelter in the middle of our downtown without any public scrutiny. So anyway, that's just but I think we need to go back and look at all alternatives all the alternatives that we have for this. So I would recommend that we go back to staff and go back to the Emergency Shelter Task Force to vet it before we come back to the council. |
| 01:53:25.25 | Jill Hoffman | So let me just, I guess a point of clarification perhaps before I start my comments. We have in our plan these, as I'm looking at, page four of the staff report. We have eight locations in our ordinance right now and what we're talking about tonight and I think we have consensus of all five of us to take off sites one through four so one two three and four we also it seems we have consensus to Increase the number of the shelter to, I would recommend 23, which is our minimum number. So we increase it to 23, that brings us down to one location. Whatever the state's response is, is the state's response. I don't want to speculate to what the state's response is going to be. If they're going to find that inadequate, then we'll hear about it. But if they don't, then they don't, and we're done. So. My recommendation is that we follow that path and that we also lessen the number of days for the state to 30 and note that Note in there that we are mirroring the outward-bound facility at Mill Street. And then, again, it's incumbent upon the state to come back. and tell us if they think that's inadequate. I think they will have a very difficult time with that. If we say we are a two square mile town, we have very limited space. We have very limited buffer zones. We think this is adequate and reasonable with regard to our town. So that is my motion that we. amend the zoning ordinance for sites, we remove sites one through four that we have sites five through eight remain that the number increase per shelter to 23, that the number of shelters go down to number one and that our the minimum or the maximum stay is 30 days, absent some, and we can also put something absent some exigent circumstance, just like we up it to, is in the ordinance itself. at the current time. So and then I think it's incumbent upon the state to let us know if that's inadequate. I don't like this. I think the policy should be that we shoot for the minimum that's required. And if we have a problem with that, then we have a problem with that. If we don't, then we don't. So that's my motion. |
| 01:55:46.10 | Ray Withy | Madam Mayor, and the language changes the state wanted? |
| 01:55:52.02 | Jill Hoffman | Yes, the language changes, I think, yes. I would move that we incorporate those. We incorporate those. |
| 01:55:57.80 | Ray Withy | We incorporate. Thank you. |
| 01:56:01.39 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:56:01.41 | Linda Pfeiffer | Anybody want to second my motion? |
| 01:56:02.52 | Ray Withy | I'll second it. |
| 01:56:03.69 | Linda Pfeiffer | Madam Mayor, would you consider a friendly amendment? Yeah. As long as it's friendly. Would you consider to... |
| 01:56:09.05 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:56:09.31 | Jill Hoffman | . |
| 01:56:09.47 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:56:09.49 | Jill Hoffman | friendly. |
| 01:56:09.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:56:16.36 | Linda Pfeiffer | You said one, two, three and four. Would you do one, two, three, four and five and have the motion from six, seven and eight? Sites six, seven, and eight. |
| 01:56:28.04 | Jill Hoffman | I would like to keep as many sites on as possible. The reason to take off the fire. I'm not sure that it's okay. Okay. Thank you. Just wanted to thank you for the friendly. |
| 01:56:29.15 | Linda Pfeiffer | THE END OF |
| 01:56:29.30 | Unknown | Leave it like it is. |
| 01:56:37.76 | Linda Pfeiffer | Okay. Okay. Okay. |
| 01:56:39.29 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:56:39.44 | Linda Pfeiffer | Thank you. Friendly. Thank you. |
| 01:56:41.72 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:56:41.74 | Linda Pfeiffer | different. |
| 01:56:41.96 | Jill Hoffman | So we have a second where we'd like to vote. |
| 01:56:45.97 | Unknown | Well, hopefully. |
| 01:56:46.97 | Unknown | of them. |
| 01:56:47.36 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, I call for a vote. |
| 01:56:47.41 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:56:47.56 | Linda Pfeiffer | Okay. Thank you. |
| 01:56:50.66 | Unknown | Well, for it, I don't think you really want me to say that. |
| 01:56:52.62 | Jill Hoffman | Do you want me to say? |
| 01:56:53.97 | Lily Whalen | Thank you. |
| 01:57:02.70 | Unknown | So, Madam Mayor, two of the modifications that you've suggested to the ordinance language, the change from 20 to 23 and the change from 90 to 30, were not previously considered by the Planning Commission. And both the government code and the zoning ordinance require that modifications made by the city council to an ordinance that's been recommended by the Planning Commission go back to them if they have not previously considered those modifications. So a couple of options. |
| 01:57:06.90 | Unknown | to the... |
| 01:57:19.57 | Unknown | Thank you. . |
| 01:57:29.85 | Unknown | of options. |
| 01:57:31.22 | Unknown | if I may. Sure. You can move forward with the things they did consider. Direct us to return to them with the two things that they have not. Just the change to 30 days and the 20 to 23 and go forward with the other modifications that you want to go forward with tonight. We will return to them at the soonest planning commission meeting we can to get their recommendation on those. Most likely will be favorable and bring that back to you as soon as we can for an additional amendment to the ordinance. |
| 01:57:31.35 | Unknown | If I may. |
| 01:57:31.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:58:03.23 | Unknown | So you would be able to remove the sites, you'd be able to do the other things you've discussed, because they've already discussed those issues. |
| 01:58:04.12 | Jill Hoffman | Absolutely. |
| 01:58:09.64 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, that sounds fine to me. What do we need to do right now? |
| 01:58:14.74 | Unknown | You could make your motion with the, and direct staff to return for second reading on the motion carving out the two suggested modifications on the 30 day and the 23 bed. Direct staff to return those to the planning commission for their recommendation and come back to you with the further ordinance amendment with those modifications. |
| 01:58:42.61 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. And so right now I would say I need to amend my motion or the motions on the table. It's been seconded. We want to vote on it. |
| 01:58:52.33 | Unknown | want to vote on it? We can't make those modifications to the ordinance tonight. We can't give first reading to those two modifications. |
| 01:58:56.65 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. modifications okay got it so we're gonna I'm gonna make a motion for what we can vote on tonight and then with the direction of staff to go back to the Planning Commission with regard to the other two recommendations |
| 01:59:03.79 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. on the limited question of the 23 bed and the 30 day. |
| 01:59:10.10 | Jill Hoffman | Great. So let me withdraw my motion. I'll second that mended. Okay. |
| 01:59:12.30 | Ray Withy | I'll second that amended motion. |
| 01:59:14.42 | Linda Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 01:59:15.54 | Jill Hoffman | Can I just say? |
| 01:59:15.57 | Ray Withy | Can I just say? |
| 01:59:16.31 | Linda Pfeiffer | Yeah. Yes. Motions amended. Yes. And I would |
| 01:59:23.74 | Jill Hoffman | Hold on. Am I supposed to do? What am I supposed to do? Thank you. |
| 01:59:28.89 | Linda Pfeiffer | Okay, I would like to make for the record a substitute motion, which is to schedule a vote to designate the emergency homeless shelter and municipal parking lots 2 and 3 with a 30-day duration, two parking spaces per four people, and 23 room capacity each. |
| 01:59:29.56 | Jill Hoffman | I would like. |
| 01:59:52.19 | Linda Pfeiffer | Okay. |
| 01:59:53.08 | Jill Hoffman | And so |
| 01:59:54.45 | Linda Pfeiffer | Is there a second? There's no second, so we can just vote on your motion. |
| 01:59:59.33 | Jill Hoffman | All right, so we need to vote on the motion. |
| 02:00:03.12 | Lily Whalen | Quick point of clarification, Mayor Hoffman, that your motion included removal of the four sites. I had them up, sorry. |
| 02:00:11.77 | Jill Hoffman | One through four. |
| 02:00:12.69 | Lily Whalen | The first four bullets on this screen. So Sausalito City Hall, Corporation Yard, MLK at Coloma, and the School District on Nevada. you |
| 02:00:20.02 | Linda Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 02:00:20.03 | Lily Whalen | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:00:20.29 | Linda Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 02:00:20.68 | Lily Whalen | Yeah. |
| 02:00:21.03 | Linda Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 02:00:21.06 | Lily Whalen | Thank you. |
| 02:00:21.28 | Linda Pfeiffer | you Thank you. |
| 02:00:21.99 | Lily Whalen | Okay. |
| 02:00:22.70 | Linda Pfeiffer | And just to clarify, I made that substitute motion only because I think this is an issue that's gonna come back, and I wanted to try and put it to rest once and for all. But I understand the mentality tonight, so. Thank you. We'll just go forward. |
| 02:00:37.35 | Lily Whalen | Thank you. Do we need to vote? Roll call on Mayor Hoffman's motion. Council Member Pfeiffer. |
| 02:00:37.94 | Linda Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 02:00:45.16 | Linda Pfeiffer | Oh, I'm first. |
| 02:00:45.99 | Lily Whalen | you Thank you. |
| 02:00:46.26 | Linda Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 02:00:46.27 | Lily Whalen | Yeah. |
| 02:00:46.44 | Linda Pfeiffer | But... |
| 02:00:46.49 | Unknown | I know. |
| 02:00:50.19 | Lily Whalen | Thank you. Councilmember Weiner. |
| 02:00:52.05 | Tom Theodorus | Yes. |
| 02:00:53.02 | Lily Whalen | Councilmember Theodorus. |
| 02:00:54.19 | Tom Theodorus | Yes. |
| 02:00:55.57 | Lily Whalen | Vice Mayor Whitley. |
| 02:00:56.31 | Tom Theodorus | Yes. |
| 02:00:57.61 | Lily Whalen | Mayor Hoffman. Yes. That carries 5-0. |
| 02:01:02.69 | Unknown | Take a break. |
| 02:01:10.98 | Jill Hoffman | And now we're going to take a break. |
| 02:01:24.07 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. We're going back in session. Dana, you have the floor. |
| 02:01:29.20 | Danny Castro | Good evening, Mary Hoffman, members of the council. I'm here to give you an update of the General Plan Update Task Force. I've come to you in the past year a number of times to present the background on the city's general plan and a sort of General Plan 101. I've also presented a Circulation Element 101 as one of the elements and one of the important elements of the general plan my discussion with you stems from the Marin ships specific plan steering committee's recommendation that the the that the general plan be updated and that the specific plan for the Marin ship be done in conjunction or along with an update of the general plan. |
| 02:02:19.93 | Danny Castro | The appointment of a general plan update following discussions regarding the general plan was appointed by the city council. A task force was appointed in October 2015. And the purpose of the task force was to review the current 1995 general plan and to identify existing and future issues for the general plan update, discuss the overall approach, which would help to frame the framework and the work program for the general plan update. The task force members are Jill Hoffman, the mayor, Ray Withey, the vice mayor, Bill Werner is the chair of the Planning Commission, and John McCoy, chair of the Historic Landmarks Board. Staff is myself, Danny Castro, Community Development Director, Lily Whalen, City Clerk Assistant City Manager, and Mary Wagner, the City Attorney. The General Plan Update Task Force has met three times, three meetings, on November 9, 2015, January 25, 2016, and April 26, 2016. The meetings were open to the public pursuant to the Brown Act, and meetings were video recorded and are available on YouTube. |
| 02:03:42.74 | Danny Castro | the the discussions of the general plan update task force the assessed that the approach and looked at initially looked at an element by element approach in terms of the update beginning with the circulation element versus a holistic update of the general plan. The task force reviewed background materials related to the circulation element, which included the city council staff report that was presented back in October of 2015 of the circulation element, a discussion on complete streets that was prepared by the governor's Office of Planning and Research, the circulation and parking element of the current 1995 general plan, a circulation element 101 PowerPoint presentation, which I made in October of 2015, and a draft working program and approach that I prepared in terms of looking at a possible approach to the general plan update. And then further, the task force reviewed background materials related to the circulation element. Also, I also prepared a draft request for proposals for agenda plan update as an example of an RFP that could be done in terms of obtaining a consultant. |
| 02:05:14.37 | Danny Castro | The recommendations of the task force were to, they did determine that after discussions that an update of the 1995 general plan is needed. that a holistic update is recommended versus an element by element approach. A number of reasons was that when initially we were looking at the circulation element, it was coupled with the idea that it's interrelated with a number of other elements, specifically land use, and that looking at circulation solely would perhaps not be as beneficial than to look at how the circulation impacts land use. And so that began the discussion that a holistic update and approach would be recommended. further the element by element approach would be recommended. Further, the element by element approach would perhaps take longer, and there was concern about community participation fatigue when you have a general plan update and community outreach effort that extends a number of years. Also costs in terms of when you do element by element, you are required to do CEQA, which is the Environmental Review. And when you do that separated by each element, you're looking at separate costs each time, rather than one CEQA document. |
| 02:06:46.52 | Danny Castro | As again, some of the factors that element by element would not be suggested, but that a holistic update would be comprehensive and would be an iterative process looking at all elements of the general plan. There was discussion, and I have to say that it was partly my advice and my direction that I think a general plan update should be completed in three years or less. My opinion is that, again, when you engage the community, I think that, and to reduce any fatigue in terms of community participation, that it be done as efficiently and three years or less, I think, can be done and very much achieved. The update is not envisioned as a wholesale rewrite, but a refreshing of the 1995 general plan. This is an opportunity to reassess the vision and goals looking 10 to 20 to 30 years into the future of Sausalito. And we did another main recommendation was to distribute a request for qualifications, an RFQ, before the initiation of the request for proposals. This was decided at the last meeting that it be a two-step process in that distributing an RFQ to a potential pool of prospects would give us a good indication of the type of qualifications we're looking for, help educate us on what we would like to see in terms of best practices or perhaps innovative ways of approaching our general plan, even looking at the various costs that would be associated with the assistance of a consultant and their expertise. And so for that reason, a request for qualifications would be what was recommended before initiating the RFP process. The RFQ process is not, there is no fiscal impact. There would not be costs associated with that. just time to conduct an RFP process and then have subsequent interviews with potential candidates. Further, an RFP process would then shortlist those candidates should be moved further along with selecting a consultant. So the recommendations of the task force is to as I mentioned, the general plan consultant, I think I didn't mention that, does provide the expertise and is necessary to meet, to assist with staff, not only to meet statutory requirements, but also the technical expertise that's needed to complete the required CEQA documentation. We, recommendation is to distribute an RFQ before initiation of the RFP process. I think I mentioned that already, and that it helps define the scope of the work, best practices, and innovation. I did mention that. So the recommendation this evening is to receive and file this report and direct staff to prepare an RFQ that will be reviewed and approved by the task force prior to distribution. Alternatives are to direct staff to not prepare an RFQ and to provide direction to staff in the task force on the approach to the general plan update. And that concludes my report. available to answer any questions. |
| 02:10:19.62 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Do we have any questions from City Council? |
| 02:10:24.07 | Tom Theodorus | Danny, I understand the task force's recommendation to do it holistically. understand that. But if if they were to do it on an element by element, is there a time limit when something could be done? I mean, could you take 50 years? I suspect not. But is there any time limit that you start from one to the other? And then when we do holistically, for example, we just as the last thing we're still working |
| 02:10:43.41 | Unknown | AND THEN, WHEN YOU'RE |
| 02:10:48.61 | Tom Theodorus | The housing element, we're making some change to the housing element. If we do it holistically, do we have to relook at the housing element, which was just done or so what is holistically exactly? |
| 02:10:59.24 | Danny Castro | Thank you. Well, the holistically is you still have to, you can decide still to begin with the circulation element coupled with or to be thinking about land use and can be piggybacked or in tandem with land use, for example. That seems to be a Coupled. typically in general plan updates. There is no time, your question about a time limit in terms of our work on a general plan update, there is no time limit. I know that an element-by-element approach was initially considered. I've looked at what other cities do, and often they're in no hurry to update their general plan, but what they do is they budget it based on what they're going to do in year one and year two and year three and year four. I have found that my experience talking to other colleagues in other cities that it's taken seven, eight, nine years to update the general plan on an element-by-element approach, often because there's other competing priorities that are unforeseen in subsequent years, so it's often put off. But that's what was intended. |
| 02:12:09.20 | Tom Theodorus | Just to follow on, so if we decided to take a holistic approach, again, That's what the task force recommended. But you could still start off with a certain element, and that would be the first one, and you move through. So it's similar, but you have an intention to do it in a more expedited fashion together. |
| 02:12:20.14 | Unknown | Exactly. |
| 02:12:23.75 | Danny Castro | THE END OF THE END OF THE Yeah, for example, the work program and approach is to do a holistic element within a certain timeframe. |
| 02:12:37.18 | Jill Hoffman | Any other questions from the council? Nope. All right, moving on to public comment. I have two cards, Cheryl Popp and Jeff Jacobs. |
| 02:13:04.39 | Jeffrey Chase | I think what we saw was a miracle. that I read about scapegoats. I'm kind of glad there's not too many people here. It's just us folks. And then we saw it happen. |
| 02:13:23.76 | Jeffrey Chase | that I know and you know that Sausalito has no intention of building a homeless shelter in 2016, They didn't have one in 2015. There was no homeless shelter in 2014 or 2013 either. And yes, this is about the general plan, about people that do not have a place to stay. My name is Jeff Jacob. I host them on my boat with no funding. the homeless of Sausalito as they come through. I don't get a dime from the city, nor the state, nor the federal government. I know and you know that there was not a chance... of a homeless shelter being built no matter what the audience said, no matter what you said. And yet, we had to go through. 45 minutes of hate speech. |
| 02:14:24.80 | Jeffrey Chase | I heard that the homeless are responsible for murders here, even though it was somebody, I guess, killing his landlord, which means he had a place. sexual predators, thieves, mentally ill, et cetera. What this means is is there's an attitude that needs adjustment. It's the easiest thing in the world to do. It doesn't take a dime. And everything from that goes into place. Once the attitude's okay, everything else is okay. We don't even have to make a change at all in this physical world. that I was going to ask Adam, the city manager, about the $12,000 that was sent to San Rafael. I thought that was rather outrageous. I've never heard of that happening before. I guess you could find other examples of money being shuffled from city to city. I'm doing this Linda Pfeiffer for nothing. I'm now tempted to say, why don't I go down to the homeless shelters in San Francisco and tell people to come up to Sausalito? Because there's a lot of people that don't like the homeless because they don't want to see their property values go down. So yes, it becomes about... Money. Simple. So what you saw was the miracle. of the portion that was read And then, And I thought I did an okay job of trying to convey about the goats and one of the goats is set free. And he's not thrown over a cliff, though he's in the land of precipice. He lives. So it seems. and then to watch People being scapegoated. So I'm going to say, If that. |
| 02:16:12.97 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you for your comments. |
| 02:16:18.31 | Jill Hoffman | Moving on to the next speaker, which is Cheryl Popp. |
| 02:16:19.12 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:16:19.14 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:16:20.07 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:16:29.92 | Cheryl Popp | Okay, I am Cheryl Popp. I think everyone knows me. I'm a resident and business person here in town, and I am speaking in support of updating the general plan, which might also be a miracle, as our friend Jeff references here. It was last updated in 1995, as Danny said, and that's also when I bought my first home here in Sausalito 21 years ago. The house needs a lot of repairs after that many years, and I think so does our general plan. As you all know, I've also been very involved in the community, for better or for worse, and I don't need to remind you of all the critical issues that we are facing daily and trying to juggle and figure out, whether it's managing tourism, the bicycles, circulation, traffic, infrastructure, land use, ferry landings, anchor outs. And it seems to me we keep looking for new mechanisms, processes, programs, and initiatives to tackle some of these. It seems to me that we have this sort of this document and framework that can address them in a more strategic overall holistic fashion. And that's our general plan, except it's very antiquated. General plans aren't designed to last, as you know, for more than 10 years. So this one's way out of date. So I would urge city council to invest in updating the general plan as staff has suggested and that they do it in this holistic approach versus piecemeal, because I think so many of the elements of I, as I have studied and so many of the issues we're facing are very interrelated. you know, bicycles relate to circulation and transportation and ferries what is the real number of tourists we have? I think that this is an opportunity If we look at this general plan to really tackle some of these issues, in a comprehensive, integrated approach that is more strategic, more efficient and much more cost effective. Um, I do think that updating the general plan in this fashion is fiscally responsible, it's and it's a very good business decision. I also know, because of the politics here, that it's going to be a budget issue. And what I would urge is you look at budget in a balanced fashion. Yes, you have to take care of storm drains, and you need to pay down pension debt, but I think you have to do some strategic long-term planning also to address some of these really critical issues in town. You know, I need to pay off my mortgage, but not, I still need to repair the roof, and I need to get my kids into college. So I'll close with just one interesting factoid. I was just in Cuba, a country which I loved. I'm quite enamored with it. It is a communist country. It is arguably a third-world country, banana republic. They've got a long ways to go, but they update their general plan every two years. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:19:23.20 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, do we have comments from city council? Thank you. Yes. |
| 02:19:30.03 | Linda Pfeiffer | I have to say I'm happy with the holistic approach. I was uncomfortable with the element-by-element approach, so I'm glad to see that revisited. A little bit concerned about the price. I know that it's going to be a lot of money, and I guess we'll just kind of tackle that step by step going through the budget process but was this I guess this is looking at the fiscal year 2016 through 2018 I guess that was the clarification question I had for Danny I'm sorry I'm I'm blurring my comment with a quick clarification sure it's when with the when would the general plan update take place then |
| 02:20:14.56 | Danny Castro | Sure. |
| 02:20:18.73 | Danny Castro | Well, this evening, I'm not seeking your commitment to the amount at this time. That would be part of the budget process for that fiscal year, 26-2018. |
| 02:20:30.39 | Linda Pfeiffer | Okay, so 2018. Okay, thank you. Yeah, so I'm happier with the holistic approach. Thank you. |
| 02:20:39.40 | Jill Hoffman | Anyone else? Comments? Comments? Yes. |
| 02:20:42.76 | Tom Theodorus | I thank the task force for its work. I agree with the holistic approach, although I'm really interested in getting the circulation element started because of all of our problems with bicycles, ferries, cars, the parking. We have to do a comprehensive look at our parking all the way from downtown all the way to Napa Street. But I appreciate the thought put into it. I think that the idea of a refresh, because when you look at our general plan plan you really have to respect the work that went into and the people that went into our general plan when you when you read it element by element and it's really important for us to do planning is only always important but it's also critical to get the public involved in our decision processes and that's one of the places that we can as in is in dealing with our general plan and getting the public an opportunity to participate in the visioning of what we do. So I support this and would make this motion. |
| 02:21:37.24 | Jill Hoffman | Thanks. |
| 02:21:40.96 | Ray Withy | I, as I think is well known, am a big supporter of updating our general plan. I'd like to echo what Council Member Theodore said. You know, it's a pretty robust document. There are just parts of it all over the place that we need to have a community conversation about all of these various things. And, yeah, I was intrigued by starting with the circulation element because I saw... Ferries, bikes, parking, tourists, all of it sort of piling up and seemed that that would be a good place to start. But I'm very cognizant of the fact that if we do it element by element, then we probably need to do secret element by element. That doesn't make sense. I know when big projects come up, when public projects come up, there's always a cry from someone from the public that we must do an environmental review. And often it's exempted or often it's just an update. Now is the chance to actually get that environmental review done holistically as we look at all of the different policies and procedures that we need to put in place. The other thing is that the general plan, to update the general plan, was actually put in a strategic planning document that we worked on in 2013 and actually went into the resource allocation plan for 2014-16. And we put a stake in the ground saying that we would update the general plan by 2018. I don't know if we'll make that. Maybe it's 2019. But that also it would – we needed to ensure that it had an integrated fiscal element or economic element. And this is so that we can actually quantify the various facets of our city, not in order say just because something makes money we should support it no not at all in actual fact i think that counter to i would like to see say some of our bicycle traffic reduced even if even if um the small amount of revenues that they generate was a hit to the city that doesn't matter i i think it's important for the quality of life to take that revenue hit But I want to know what it is. I want to know what the quantities are. And so I think it's very important when we talk about the marine ship, we want to make sure that we invest in infrastructure there so that the long-term revenue streams that we get from the marine ship will be there in 10 years' time instead of gone away because the marine ship's fallen apart. So I'm very supportive of doing this. Can we afford it? I don't know. Next installment is budget time. |
| 02:24:45.97 | Unknown | Okay. Thank you. |
| 02:24:46.56 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:24:46.59 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:24:46.71 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:24:47.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:24:48.04 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Okay. I agree. I think the path is holistic RFQ, but part of that has to be it's, you know, really want to pay attention in the RFQs to, you know, options for the most streamlined, cost effective. Absolutely. This is not the full employment plan for consultants. So as always, there's going to be a very heavy red pen in any plan I would hope that comes to us. |
| 02:25:15.97 | Linda Pfeiffer | I just have a real quick comment, which is the comment made about, you know, investing in infrastructure in the Marin ship. I want to stress just on the record again that a great deal of the Marin ship infrastructure is privately owned. I'm talking about sidewalks, a lot of the sewers, storm drains, and I am concerned with sticking the taxpayers of Sausalito with paying part of the price on that infrastructure in terms of future revenues for the Marin ship the landowners that it's it's about it's about it was raised in context of the general plan and I am rebutting rebutting that with my personal views in terms of future revenues the property owners and the Marin ship knew what they were purchasing when they bought it some of them got good prices but it reflected reflected the maritime services and light industry uses. So they need to make an investment in their infrastructure. |
| 02:25:16.07 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:26:27.49 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. And I don't think we have any more. comment Danny go get the RFQ thank you all right moving on to the next item on the agenda budget development process update |
| 02:26:59.53 | Melanie Purcell | Good evening, Melanie Purcell, Administrative Services Director. I just want to give you, as promised, an update from the Finance Committee as we evolve the FY16, 2016 to 2018 budget. It's a biennial resource allocation plan. So the Finance Committee has had four special meetings dedicated to reviewing specific elements. The focus has really been looking and trying to determine what areas need more information, where there's likely to be some debate. and those areas in which there's some comfort level that they can agree on a direction. The areas that have been looked at so far in particular, the Martin Luther King Complex Fund, the fund and the loan structure from the general fund to the MLK fund. The parking fund. general fund revenues, the library, recreation, community development, and police departments, and then also an initial start to look at the capital improvement projects. The emphasis at this point has been just on making sure that we've captured that universe and have pulled forward from the prior resource allocation plan. The parking fund initial conversation really is showing that revenues are not expected to increase greatly, though we are continuing to look at those numbers and in particular the last couple of months I'm hoping to bring forward another update. But looking at the budget, the revenues, the expenses, last year there was a transfer of $1,385,000. And I'm referring to last year, current year. My apologies. Budget tends to migrate years faster than the rest of the world. $1,500,000 is proposed for FY 2016-17. That is a reflection of the decrease in the capital investment in needing to buy equipment. So the conversation was really about what is an appropriate fund balance, why that fund balance has grown to this level, and the need to maintain that but not necessarily grow it. The Finance Committee agreed that at this point we could maintain it. without increasing it and could then continue to contribute net revenues to the general fund. The MLK Fund, we did a similar analysis looking at a slight increase in revenues, though again I'll be looking at those much more closely at the contracts. Looking at the loan structure itself, and making sure that we reflect the debt Part of this is the conversation that we've had about recognizing that there is a formal relationship that needs to be identified and the council will need to take a specific action to modify a loan structure. currently the MLK fund has been paying interest only to the general fund of approximately $315,000. It then transfers net revenues of 33,000. The conversation with the Finance Committee was to restructure this loan to make the debt go away, reflect the COPs that would be being used for non-MLK improvements, i.e. general fund improvements. So that would draw down on the $6 million loan. by 4.2. based on the timeline that those are drawn down, and then restructuring the loan so that the total loan will be paid off at the same timeline as the COPs. So at the end of 14 years, there will be no debt restrained. debt relationship. between the MLK and general funds. The intent is to retain the approximately $1 million fund balance. and transfer net revenues to the general fund while maintaining that fund balance after all operations and debt service are paid. General Roth fund revenues at this time, we are actually seeing flat. I'm going to go backwards here for a minute. But property tax, sales tax, and TOT revenues are expected to be flat, if not slightly down. The state structure for sales tax is eliminating what's called the triple flip this year. So we'll see a slight decrease going into next year, and then we should expect to start seeing some better reflection of the economy. It's a reduction in the loan payment from the MLK, but an increase in transfer from the parking fund. So again, pretty much flat for the general fund with some increases in our fees and charges. We'd also like to bring forward, will be discussed in more detail by the Finance Committee, some adjustments to the master fee schedule. We are in the process of doing a cost analysis that's been undergoing of the fees that are charged by the city we did just get initial information back on how we compare with our neighbors. And in some areas, we're pretty comfortably in the middle of the pack, and in others, we are very low. So we'll be looking to increase some of those fees and also anticipate continued activity in those areas. Yes. Thank you. The department reviews included the library department looking at the structure of part-time positions and that's an area that we definitely will have further conversation and more detail was requested by the Finance Committee. Recreation Department also requests, Finance Committee also requested a little more information regarding programs, how we deliver those programs, and what kind of income is generated by them. There were no changes in the structure or programs recommended by staff. The Community Development Department, the Finance Committee agreed that there's a need for enhanced code enforcement and building inspection services. So there will be further discussion on how those services might be enhanced and what options are available. The police department also, there was consensus on the need for additional parking. and seasonal law enforcement services, and the options of using part-time and civilian positions rather than fully sworn full-time positions. Additional information was also requested by the Finance Committee regarding the external programs that the city supports. This involves nonprofits, other agencies, basically the interactions and how those decisions are made and how they're brought forward. So we'll be doing a summation for the Finance Committee and then also to the City Council. THEIR OWNERS. May 17th? Mr. John Bartell, who's come to the council before to discuss pension liabilities, will be presenting. and we'll have an opportunity to have further conversation about long-term liabilities, looking at what the obligations for pensions, and OPEB are. and as well the conversation about operating impact of all the capital plans that we have. recognizing that as we build, we need to ensure that we have more than, when the debt's paid off, we have more than a 15-year-old park. We have a beautiful, ongoing treasure of the community. So going forward, the Finance Committee will be meeting this week. Still on their plate are follow-up of the items I've already mentioned. Capital Improvement Program, the Public Works Department, will be this week, and we'll also be discussing admin finance and non-departmental. This year, the Finance Committee came up with the idea, and the city manager, of doing video presentations by each department so that citizens could see them, city council members could see departments present updates on their strategic plan pieces and where they are at in the strategic plan goals from 2014 to 2016, and then also what's going on, what they're recommending going forward and what's on their plate going forward. So those will be online in mid-May. The Finance Committee will be reviewing the total budget, and then presentation to the City Council. We have a meeting scheduled for May 24th for a special meeting of the City Council to go through the complete budget. And then we will have public meetings to review and the adoption, hopefully, at the regular June meetings. The budget does have to be adopted by the end of June. Thank you. Any questions? |
| 02:35:22.17 | Jill Hoffman | Melanie, if someone was interested in looking at the materials that we were looking at as part of the Finance Committee on April 13th and April 20th, I see that that's item 4B of our staff on the consent calendar today that we accepted. And so those materials are attached to our materials today. Are those also online? Yes. |
| 02:35:43.55 | Unknown | Sorry. |
| 02:35:50.10 | Melanie Purcell | Yes, they're included in the agenda packet online. |
| 02:35:52.75 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. And the idea is that we're trying to get as much information out as possible prior to the vote. And so anybody that's interested is welcome to go. And come through those things and then come and talk to us at city council meetings prior to that vote. Also with regard to the MLK, that was part of the discussion during the Measure F to retire the debt on MLK. Is that correct? We're talking... Thank you. |
| 02:36:23.10 | Melanie Purcell | Thank you. |
| 02:36:23.12 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:36:23.27 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:36:23.46 | Melanie Purcell | for, |
| 02:36:23.69 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 02:36:23.73 | Melanie Purcell | Yeah. City manager for her. |
| 02:36:26.04 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:36:26.09 | Melanie Purcell | went to. |
| 02:36:26.45 | Jill Hoffman | I mean, those are the options. That was the intent of the city council in that situation. |
| 02:36:26.46 | Melanie Purcell | I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS. |
| 02:36:27.85 | Adam Politzer | That was the intent of the city council, and that's the direction that we took, and that's why we had a discussion with the finance committee. |
| 02:36:33.84 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. Okay. Thank you. |
| 02:36:37.84 | Tom Theodorus | And I thank you for the presentation. And I understand I I appreciate the mayor's comments saying that we're going to get the information as soon as possible. I think the videos are a great idea and it's mid May, but the complete budget that we'll be reviewing on the 24th, correct? When will that be? When will we see that package? Do you have an idea? |
| 02:36:37.89 | Jill Hoffman | And I, |
| 02:36:46.76 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:36:58.46 | Melanie Purcell | I'm hoping no later than the week before. presumably no later than the Thursday before, as you would normally do. I'm trying to aim a little sooner. Thank you. |
| 02:37:07.23 | Tom Theodorus | Yeah, I think that'd be because it's important. And I also take it that we're going to have. |
| 02:37:07.25 | Melanie Purcell | Yeah. |
| 02:37:11.01 | Tom Theodorus | a budget-only meeting on May 24th. Correct. And will there be another budget meeting before we actually vote on passing the budget? |
| 02:37:18.88 | Melanie Purcell | There's two meetings related in June, in that you can vote at either one of those, but the recommendation would be to have a full public meeting, excuse me, at the first meeting in June, in which you, we entertain questions or anything else that you want to discuss or you've asked me to bring back to you, and then vote actually at the second meeting in June. |
| 02:37:38.11 | Unknown | Okay, so three budget minutes. |
| 02:37:38.42 | Adam Politzer | three, but you can I can I just I'm sorry, I'm coming theaters. Just to be clear, we're having a we're having finance committee meetings. Then we're having a council meeting on May 17. which we'll be talking about the budget. There'll be a council meeting talking about the budget. Then there'll be a special meeting on the 24th to go through the deep dive of the budget. there will be information that we're going to bring forward to you at every council meeting. between now and the 24th and then into the hearings in June. |
| 02:38:11.58 | Tom Theodorus | Understood that the 17th was going to be about pensions though Thank you. |
| 02:38:15.59 | Adam Politzer | And budget and other. I'm imagining that we will have pensions as a big, long item on the agenda, and then we will have budget to follow it. Okay, so we're going to have four meetings. |
| 02:38:15.63 | Tom Theodorus | And budget and other... |
| 02:38:21.33 | Unknown | Okay, so we're going to have four meetings. Okay, thanks. Yeah. |
| 02:38:27.49 | Linda Pfeiffer | Thank you. So I have a quick question. Earlier there was a, I guess last year, there we, well, the council majority passed a, what I would consider a very generous raise for city employees. And at the time, one of the questions I had was, how many employees had like maxed out on their steps. And because one of the arguments I heard was, well, it's actually just 3% raised. It's not 5% per year raised because many of these employees have maxed out on their steps. So one of the questions I had was, how many city employees since that MOU that were maxed on their steps have since been promoted and have had that step ladder reset? And I'm curious. I'm trying to understand what the the impact of that raise which accounts let's see, it would be 8% per year for police employees, and it would be 7.5% per year for miscellaneous employees. So I'd just like to get an understanding of the impact on that, that that new MOU has had for this fiscal year. |
| 02:40:14.17 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, we can attempt to look at that. I think we responded to that question last time, and it's important to clarify. that because of the steps we've taken in terms of restructuring the pay structure we've actually added we went to a five steps step increase to a seven step, but we added the two additional steps at the bottom. So it's technically a 35% drop from the top step to the bottom step. So when we rehire people, new people, they stop They start two steps behind. what the existing employees started at. It's not a complete apples to orange. I could pretty much roughly tell you that from what I can Remember this past. here. potentially the only people that got promotional opportunities were the two lieutenants that went from sergeant to lieutenant. Um, and then that position was downgraded from captain to lieutenant. for the city's costs and anything related to the pensions, those all decrease. We're happy to go back and look across the board and see how that played out. But it's not a simple equation of just looking at these folks and that they got it now starting at a new step, at the bottom of the step, and they got a 5% increase plus a 3% increase in some cases. The position in the budget benefited because we lowered the steps. by 10% in terms of the bottom level dropping down. |
| 02:41:45.92 | Linda Pfeiffer | I guess my point, Adam, for clarification is that if you are an employee and you've maxed out on your step and you get a promotion, you're going to start over. And irrespective of whether you start over on a step five or a step seven or whatever, you do reset the clock. And now you have that 3% plus 5% if you're a police employee going forward every year. And so that's just what I want transparency on is I want to know what the full cost is, you know, of the raised MOU that was passed. That's all I'm asking. Okay. |
| 02:42:28.08 | Adam Politzer | And I'm just sharing that it's going to take a little time to do that because it's not a you go up. to the next level. that next level. The budget doesn't look at the individual. The budget looks at the position, and we shifted the positions down. So there's an overall net savings to the budget regardless to the employee. But I get your point. We will look into it in this moment. |
| 02:42:48.17 | Linda Pfeiffer | Yeah. What? Adam, if I'm an employee with the city and I get a promotion, I'm not getting a pay cut, am I? |
| 02:42:57.66 | Adam Politzer | No, but you're not getting the same increase that employees prior to us taking this action. I don't care. |
| 02:42:58.17 | Linda Pfeiffer | Okay. |
| 02:43:01.86 | Linda Pfeiffer | I don't care I'm getting I'm getting a pay increase and I'm getting from that point onward 5% plus 3% so I'm getting 8% a year if I'm a police employee and I'm getting seven point I guess 75% If you know I get that reset and I'm a miscellaneous employee, so I'd like to know the impact to the budget of that MOU and I would also I |
| 02:43:29.50 | Adam Politzer | We're not arguing about giving you the information, but we are making two different points. The employee is getting elevated promotion, getting a promotion to take on more responsibility. |
| 02:43:30.40 | Linda Pfeiffer | Yeah, that I'm just, Yeah. |
| 02:43:40.98 | Adam Politzer | That's what the 5% raise is from when they are promoted. from one position to the next. a step increase. was shifted down. As they perform their job and are evaluated, they get an increase based on their performance. So I just want to make sure that we're clear |
| 02:43:55.51 | Unknown | So. |
| 02:43:58.09 | Adam Politzer | that the promotional opportunity, is taking on significant more responsibility going from an officer to a sergeant or a sergeant to a lieutenant as an example here, is taking on the greater responsibility, which gives them the 5%. Thank you. |
| 02:44:12.04 | Linda Pfeiffer | And I think that was the point I raised when we were in negotiations was that when someone when a city employee matches out on Max is out on a step. They they have promotional opportunities to move up and Well, yes, it was it was the reason I asked you how many employees had maxed out |
| 02:44:30.57 | Adam Politzer | the employees had maxed out. There's X number of officers and there's only four sergeants. I think we're going in circles. |
| 02:44:34.54 | Linda Pfeiffer | Okay, I think we're going in circles. Never mind, Adam. I think we're going in circles. |
| 02:44:37.32 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, yeah. THE END OF THE END OF THE We got it. You're going to get her the information. Yes. as part of the budget process. At some point, we'll have this information. |
| 02:44:50.81 | Tom Theodorus | I think that raises a good, I think, we're going through the process now, but what I'd like to see is that council, meet with staff early and I think we should have questions submitted early and that's why I said to Melanie as soon as we can get and all information the better and I encourage all council members to meet with staff and to submit in writing if they have to these questions so that we can get this handled ahead of time otherwise we'll be at 1 and 2 o'clock in the mornings because there's a lot to do |
| 02:45:19.68 | Jill Hoffman | I agree. Or we. Okay. |
| 02:45:20.52 | Tom Theodorus | WE. |
| 02:45:21.25 | Linda Pfeiffer | Thank you. THE END OF THE END OF THE I do have a follow-up question. I was very happy to see that we are, you know, from a matter of integrity, that we're making good on our promise with respect to the COPs that MLK will be debt-free, you know, and pay off its city debt at the same time as the COPs. My question is, is that happening just for this? Is that a policy? Is this, do we need to make a motion? It seems to me like, you know, that this is going to be actually carried through. It's not just because you've got everybody up here, you know, right now, certain, you know, folks are saying, yeah, we'll do this. |
| 02:45:37.62 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:46:04.74 | Melanie Purcell | I'm actually requesting when I bring the budget to you there will be a stack of resolutions one of them is in fact the formal loan agreement between the MLK fund and the general fund okay that there is a binding document great such time as a council passes a new resolution and establishes something else which presumably won't be needed |
| 02:46:17.95 | Linda Pfeiffer | OK. Great. |
| 02:46:26.60 | Linda Pfeiffer | Wonderful. I've got two more quick questions. One is that, and this is Melanie when we met a couple months ago, I made this comment and you were going to take a look at it, is that as long as I've been on this council, it seems like every budget is presented a slightly different way, you know, in terms of, I mean, the information is there. It's just presented differently. And it would be great if we could maybe get consensus on, you know, a consistent way so that from year to year future councils can look, you know, and know exactly where to find things and be able to compare year to year, you know, different sections and funds and stuff. So can you, is that something you can explore? Okay, thank you. Thank you. Let's see. I had one more quick question. Oh, yes. So as you know, there had been a lot of, there continues to be questions about the sales tax. This last year, the budget, last year was, I don't know. |
| 02:47:10.94 | Unknown | I'll do my best. |
| 02:47:31.17 | Linda Pfeiffer | It showed how sales tax revenues were being spent, but it was mixed with other revenues. And so it would be nice if we could have specific amounts in terms of how much money we've gotten in or how much money we're projecting and then how it will be spent just for folks to get clarity on that. Thank you. |
| 02:47:55.10 | Jill Hoffman | Melanie, didn't we have that? Isn't that in the June? Was that in either the April or the April 10th? Yes, in the Revitational. |
| 02:48:01.24 | Melanie Purcell | Yes, in the revenues information, we actually break it out, but we're actually building that structure into the accounting system as best we can. So I think if you... |
| 02:48:07.65 | Jill Hoffman | the best we can. So I think if you, somewhere in the materials from the prior finance committee meetings, |
| 02:48:15.43 | Linda Pfeiffer | Oh, you mean in the April of last month? |
| 02:48:17.93 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. In the notes, well, perhaps, Melanie, you might want to follow up with Linda, but for Councilman Pfeiffer, the general fund revenue detail sheet on number seven might be it. Yes. Where you try to break it out and you do a little bit of projection. Okay. Good. Good. |
| 02:48:21.10 | Lily Whalen | Thank you. Well, I think that's a good thing. |
| 02:48:23.43 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:48:23.47 | Lily Whalen | You might want to find it. |
| 02:48:30.67 | Linda Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 02:48:30.79 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:48:30.82 | Linda Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 02:48:30.86 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:48:30.94 | Linda Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 02:48:30.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:48:34.91 | Linda Pfeiffer | Oh, good. Good. Yeah, I didn't do a deep dive on these consent. The consent calendar spreadsheet here on this particular topic because of the homeless shelter tonight. It will be nearby. But I'm really glad because I remember last time we talked, you were really amenable to that. So I appreciate it. So this is good news. Good. Good. |
| 02:48:37.25 | Jill Hoffman | I didn't know. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:48:40.41 | Unknown | THE CITY IS A CITY |
| 02:48:40.49 | Jill Hoffman | The little teeny tiny shiver? |
| 02:48:43.02 | Unknown | I understand. |
| 02:48:50.70 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:48:50.74 | Unknown | IT WILL BE. |
| 02:48:51.04 | Jill Hoffman | But I'm really |
| 02:48:59.24 | Jill Hoffman | okay any other council questions before we move on to public comment see none public we now open public comment on this issue do we have any speaker cards |
| 02:49:03.07 | Linda Pfeiffer | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:49:03.14 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:49:11.54 | Jill Hoffman | It looks like Jeff is filling out a speaker card. Jeff, you may approach the podium. |
| 02:49:21.72 | Jeffrey Chase | What would I do without you guys? I guess I'm going to stick to the budget on this one. I owe $3,500 according to the number of tickets that I've gotten from Sausalito. These would not be for what the homeless usually do, you know, when sexual predator or murdering or thieving, but for bicycle lights, being in the right bicycle lane or not being in the bicycle lane, sidewalk, not having a light preserver, not having a light or a whistle, and registration. The Mariners of Richardson Bay, they're not sure of the name exactly, met before this meeting and we had the idea that if we met on Tuesdays we could come to the meeting and voice our concerns. And I feel that the people there really want to meet the expectations of you folks and the people on the hill to make things look good. And not just for the sake of looking good, but that's what a seaman does. He's seaman-like. So his boat looks good. He's ready to sail. His ground tackle is good. There's not garbage on the deck, et cetera. And where the rubber meets the road on this is the issue of registration. that there was talk about what's gonna happen to the Anchorage, Linda. We all are concerned about that, I know you are. that to boats that aren't registered, which is now a big majority of the boats. will have to register. It'll be easier if they drag. Somebody will be able to identify the boat, for instance. And it doesn't seem like an evil thing. The officers are now going to the boats and writing tickets. The ticket is $300. $35 and then after a month it goes up to $550. If somebody doesn't have the $50 to register, probably going to be very difficult to get the 315 or 550 as well. So I am... asking. And this is what the Attorney General, I don't remember if, I don't know if you remember what I shared with you about the Attorney General saying that tickets that were written on a segment of the population, on the poor, and this happened in Ferguson, Missouri, but not only in Ferguson, that that becomes an impediment to opening up a bank account, to having a job, to getting the boat re-registered, to having a license in a car, and is, illegal and unconstitutional, according to the Attorney General of the United States. So on this issue of the registrations, I am asking you to... Let us take care of it ourselves to stop writing those tickets or to resign. |
| 02:52:36.17 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:52:37.05 | Jeffrey Chase | I love you. |
| 02:52:38.63 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Um, okay. I see any other public comment on the budget. I see no one approaching the podium. I have no cards moving on to city council discussion. I'll note that I don't think we were, there's no action to be done No action asked for tonight. I'm on the finance committee, so apparently I agree with the procedure, the approach. Anybody else have any comments? All right, moving on then to item number seven, city manager reports, council member reports. Yes, Adam, city manager. |
| 02:53:21.24 | Adam Politzer | Thank you, Mayor Hoffman. Just a handful of items. It's just a few minutes past 10, so I feel like we have some time. One of the things that the mayor had asked me to talk about in the manager's report, and then Councilmember Pfeiffer had asked this as a future agenda item, and the chief will come at a future meeting when we are able to schedule the item. But just a brief update on some of the activity related to car thefts and burglaries related to the cars. And we had a bit of a spike during the middle of April. but I think it's important to just share some information so that some of the facts can make it also out into the newsletters and through next door and what have you so that people can receive this information and we'll put this out in the in the current I think it'd be helpful for people to see what's going on but we so there's two different categories there's auto burglaries where someone's actually forcing their way into the car they break the window they pry open the door they shove down windows you know different different ways but they forcefully get in and since January 1st you know for the last four and a half months 18, we've had 13 thefts in that category. In the category that I think has everyone's attention, which are more of the thefts of convenience, people have left things visible sight. In most cases, the cars were unlocked. In all these cases, the cars were unlocked, where we had 34 of these types of crimes and again people came through saw stuff of note most of it wasn't all that valuable blankets for example you know other small small items when we talked to the people that had called the police department, 21 of them filed actual reports. 13 of them chose not to. They just wanted to make sure that it was brought to our attention. When you look at the section, and so this is what we'll post online, it's a little map that shows where these crimes happen in town. And I think this information is already online online I think it's a tool the police departments made available to the public but of the 48 so when you take the 13 where is forced entry and the 34 you got 48 crimes that have happened from the beginning of the year over this four and a half months eight happened at the south end of town 11 happened in the central part of town 16 happened on the more of the downtown place. Spencer Avenue corridor, and then 13 happened on the south end of town. I'm sorry, so 8 was the north, 11 was the central, 16 was the downtown to Spencer Avenue corridor. The central corridor includes spring and all the way to Montemar. And then 13. Thank you. on the south end of town. but again what's important to point out is that the physical break-ins when actual you know real damage and then maybe more notable thefts were taken other than blankets and some of the smaller things the north end of town had three in that category the The central part had three in that category. downtown and Spencer Avenue corridor had six in that category and the south part of town had one so you know it when you look over a four and a half period of time it's not in one particular neighborhood but there's definitely a scattering of activity and then as I noted and I think why councilmember Pfeiffer sent the email is that we had a spike of 14 events throughout town. Not just on the Monty Mar neighborhood, but throughout town we had 14 events. The good news is that during that period of time in April, There was a citizen that saw someone early in the morning that didn't look right and actually saw them trying to break into a car and they called the police. And the police got there. The person had taken off, but they were able to give a good description of of the vehicle that they took off in, what they look like. And we were able to put that out. to all of our partners with CHP, Golden Gate Bridge, Tiburon. Central Marin Police, the Park Service, And the license plate had showed up in Tiburon. It showed up on the Golden Gate Bridge and it showed up through the Park Service. And the park police in the Presidio picked him up. and arrested him. And so we're hoping that by arresting these two individuals, and again by the good work of the citizen, and it's what Jennifer Tejada used to say, it's a national saying, see something, see something, say something. And that's what the citizen did, and it was able to lead to this arrest of these two individuals. A lot of material was found in their car, and a lot of that material will be returned. And so that's one of those success stories. But the police department are on top of this. They have extra patrol going on at night right now. What's interesting, it kind of surprised me, but not in their cars. They're on bikes. because when you hear the car coming, the bad guy is crawling to the bushes. disappear into their cars and lay low. but you don't hear a bite. or you don't hear them on foot. So they're actually doing a lot of foot patrol. And when they're on foot patrol, they're checking the cars. And when they find a car unlocked, they lock it, they put a note on the dash, and they say, please lock your door. So in this case, it's clear that there's been 14 where it's forced entry. It doesn't matter if you lock your car or not, forced entry, they're coming in. But in the other cases, in the other 34 cases, again, an example of the citizens, again, taking those precautions. We heard some folks earlier tonight talk about, We're in a quiet town, a safe town. you know, in a sleepy town. And sometimes we take that for granted. I know that my parents do, and they live just up there on Glen Drive. My dad doesn't always lock his door. And you know you're just setting yourself up for for the convenience of someone that comes through see something and tries to take it But they're on top of it They're going to come to a future meeting as soon as we can get them scheduled based on what else is on here and give a more thorough report on And again, one of the offers that the police department always makes, and we know this from our our Spencer Avenue, Prospect, Cloud View, Booker Lane, COMMUNITY. that the police will come into these neighborhoods and have a coffee with whomever wants to host it. And then I know if Keith Kennedy was here, He's at all our finance committee meetings if he was here. He would suggest that the neighbors duplicate some of the things that they've done in their neighborhoods they feel that it's it's helping with the police department knows that it's helping and that's one of the things that we talked about in the Finance Committee is looking at putting in this year's budget it's going to be a recommendation from the finance committee to put in the budget both body cameras and stationary license plate reader at least at three locations in town, so that will help. But the chief will come and talk about it. I just wanted to give an update. that we had good news to report. It has a decrease in some of the activity. because of the accessibility people coming off the freeway and again some of these criminals don't care if it's a slated tipper on Park you know Presidio or essential Marin there they're coming through Worth noting that San Francisco, in this same period of time, have had 6,000 of these burglaries reported. I'm sorry, just in the month, just in the one month. Central Marin has had 34 of the actual auto break-in, the fourth break-in. So those are just a couple examples, and I think that I highlighted the Park Service somewhere here. Okay. Park Service also had an increase. All of their numbers were higher than ours. So 6,000 in San Francisco, 39 in Central Marin, and eight in in Park Service land when you look at the forest break-ins most of those break-ins if not all of them are along the Bridgeway corridor and the Caledonia Street and the parking lots downtown Probably 98% of them if not all of them are in that are in the Bridgeway corridor. So people coming through and and taking those crimes There's really not a whole lot more that I want to report on. There's a whole lot of activity on RBRA and the discussion, and you heard Jeff talk about The folks on the water are working with us. The police department started its program with notices Thank you. and education. And now they've moved to enforcement. And again, we specifically are enforcing the Dunphy Park waters. We think those waters are very sensitive. And so that's where our focus is at this moment. But we'll continue those efforts. And we also plan on bringing an RBRA update to the council at the appropriate time. Both the mayor and Herb Weiner and I have had a variety of meetings here in Southern Marin. with fellow elected. with fellow staff. county administrators, the county sheriff, AND OUR POLICE CHIEF Working with the sheriff are are in position to take on a more of a leadership role. And so we hope that that is embraced by the rest of our VRA. Worth noting that this Saturday, Council Member Weiner reported that the Ferry District took 1,200 bikes back on a Saturday. And he asked me for some information. I thought that the rest would be interested. 580 people paid for bike parking on Tracy Way on that day. So almost half the people that went on the boat parked in our paid lot and paid $3 a ticket for their parking opportunity. I'll stop there and answer any questions Council may have. |
| 03:04:03.94 | Linda Pfeiffer | Yeah, so Adam, as you know, my renter had her car broken into, and I had a number of my friends had their cars broken into. And so I guess one of the questions I have is... |
| 03:04:27.79 | Linda Pfeiffer | when it comes to, you mentioned that approaching and doing patrols on a stealth basis rather than cars were more effective. And I remember at one point the police had wanted, and I believe they still want electric bikes, and I was wondering if you could comment on that. Is that still on their wish list? |
| 03:04:50.32 | Adam Politzer | on their list it's still on their list it's a little bit further down in terms of the discretionary projects or I don't know if it's called a project, but discretionary items. There does appear to be people in the community that are willing, just like the motorcycles, to donate towards that effort rather than having the city fund it. So right now there's some conversations going on between the chief and community members. But as the budget process comes forward, You'll have a handful of discretionary items that are called supplementals that you'll look at and weigh them based on available funds. But at this point, we think that the most effective tools would be both the body cameras and the license plate readers to help flag people as they come into town. in stolen cars, Or with warrants, there's warrants on the registration of those cars. that they'll give an immediate alert to the police department so we can take action. |
| 03:05:56.38 | Linda Pfeiffer | I have a follow-up question. I know that in the past, when there has been a rash of crime, the police have used the VIPs to do night patrols. And I was wondering if that's something they might be exploring. |
| 03:06:12.19 | Adam Politzer | They very limited what's There's been discussion about that in the past. What we don't want to do is put the vips in harm's way where What we've asked them to do, and they've done it, and I would imagine they continue to do it. is neighborhood watch type activity. If they see something suspicious, to call the police. What we don't want them to do is to come flying in there with their lights on and try to make citizens arrest. So I believe that that's still going on. |
| 03:06:39.29 | Linda Pfeiffer | So I believe that that's still going on. Of course not, yeah. But I remember when the way VIPS were used, there was a rash of crime. There was a specific criminal, and the VIPS were out. I mean, they're specially trained. I went through the training myself, and they're trained not to approach or take action. So I, yeah, and in fact, I've know police officers before tell me that just you know walking a dog at night you know is is actually can be detrimental to you know to crime because it shows people are out and about so anyway I just wanted to plant that seed that that might be kind of nice from a community outreach standpoint |
| 03:07:22.17 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, the chief will be here at our next convenient time, and that will be an opportunity to get into that level of detail. |
| 03:07:31.05 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, on to council member reports. Anybody have reports, right? Thank you. No. |
| 03:07:38.49 | Ray Withy | Yeah, I actually have Two things, one brief. Thank you. I haven't updated anybody on marine clean energy for a long time. As we have plenty of time on the agenda, No, I just wanted to alert people to the fact that without any fanfare, without actually really much of a hiccup marine clean energy almost instantly doubled in size last month in that it took on the communities of all the citizen Napa the county of Napa joined us all the citizen Napa joined Walnut Creek has joined Lafayette has joined and there's a number of other jurisdictions pending. So marine clean energy has actually grown And in addition, there are now new CCAs popping up everywhere. So San Mateo is going to be getting going in a couple of months. They're going to be instantly twice the size of marine clean energy. So this whole thing is really mushroomed. The good news is because of the expansion, it's likely that marine clean energy is going to be able to do a rate adjustment and bring its rates down compared even more to PG&E. So I just wanted to – it may have escaped you that Marine Clean Energy is actually double in size. The other comment I want to make is on ABAG and MTC. Council Member Pfeiffer and I have been sort of updating you periodically on what's unfolding here. I went to the General Assembly, ABAG General Assembly, in which... Basically, the process of what was going on was outlined. It was, to be frank, a complete waste of time. Because the ABAG executive board did not let the consultant who has developed options to recommend to MTC and ABAG for this merger didn't actually let the consultant present those options because they were supposed to be presented jointly to MTC and ABAC, so it was a bit of a disaster actually. In the end, I came away with the impression, especially as the next day the ABAC Executive Board with one vote in dissension, who was Pat Eklund, the mayor of Nevada, who's our A-back rep. She was the lone voice in actually the ABAC Executive Board agreed to move forward with a merger on the consultant's recommendation. And there's a big sort of pushback against the ABAC Board. A special general meeting has been called. It was going to be May 12th. It's now May 19th to further discuss this. To be honest, from what I can see, the train's left the station. Both ABAG and MTC, even though ABAG has got more sort of small city representation, the reality is that both these groups are controlled by the large cities and large jurisdictions. The train has left the station, and what appears to be happening, which appears to be difficult to stop, is that ABAG is going to be consumed by MTC and And what's happening is that, in actual fact, it's instead of being a merger, it's actually a merging to be a takeover. And my belief that is not good for small cities. It's just not good. I mean, to listen to some of our colleagues from the peninsula talk about MTC and the way that they are railroaded on every transportation project. The smaller the city, nobody bothers to listen to them. It means that basically the future housing elements, future RHNA numbers, future planning for... will now be in the hands of a body that really has no respect for small jurisdictions. And if anybody from MTC is listening, sorry, I didn't mean it. But, you know, this is serious. |
| 03:12:21.43 | Ivan Glover | get it. |
| 03:12:27.85 | Ray Withy | Although folks are trying to actually push this and have a more considered real merger take place, because there's no doubt the agency needs to merge because APAC can't survive on its own. The way this is happening does not bode well, at least for me, for future Plan Bay area updates or future RHNA allocations. It's actually quite worrying, I believe. |
| 03:12:56.57 | Linda Pfeiffer | Yeah, and I just add to that, speaking as someone who opposed Plan Bay Area, what I'm a little bit confused about is that... I know that in a sub-meeting that I attended with pat uh there was interest in and we wanted to pursue autonomous funding for abag there evidently there had been legislation that had gone through sacramento and failed because obviously we didn't know the public didn't know including this council most councils didn't know what was going on um so and and that was before the i guess the merger picked up steam so now It seems I believe Pat is pursuing a An option that would create a council of governments agency which would be a kind of the way I guess a bag is structured right now when city one vote and then rolled up but then it would be more of a kind of a larger you know, regional agency. So again, we're back to regional. I don't like that. I don't like any regional agencies, frankly. But it would be more of a council of governments, which is better than MTC, you know, which brought us the Bay Bridge. I mean, you know the stories behind the controversies around some of the quality control in that. So I guess, Ray, I attended that last meeting too with MCCNC. Have there been any developments that I'm not privy to in terms of Pat's progress on her pursuit of the... No? Okay. |
| 03:14:43.17 | Ray Withy | No. Not to my knowledge. I mean, to be honest, that's a pretty uphill battle. That's an uphill battle. |
| 03:14:51.67 | Linda Pfeiffer | Yeah, well, it's not over yet. I mean. |
| 03:14:55.66 | Ray Withy | Yeah, I mean even some of the North Bay smaller counties and cities are quite happy with MTC because they get their transportation funding, that's all they care about, and they're quite happy to have as many high RHNA numbers as they don't care. |
| 03:15:10.57 | Linda Pfeiffer | Well, I guess one of the things that I'm trying to clarify is just what is the message we can take to the public for action, you know, if there is action to be taken to support Pat's efforts. |
| 03:15:23.78 | Ray Withy | I think we'll know more on May 19th. |
| 03:15:26.64 | Linda Pfeiffer | That might be too late. |
| 03:15:29.18 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, any other council member committee reports? Nope, seeing nothing. Future agenda items? |
| 03:15:35.02 | Linda Pfeiffer | Yes. |
| 03:15:35.92 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:15:36.04 | Linda Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 03:15:36.07 | Jill Hoffman | Anybody? |
| 03:15:36.48 | Linda Pfeiffer | Really quickly, complete streets, which included the widening of some of the Southern Corridor. A lot of people want that agendized as soon as possible. Another item, ban leaf blowers. That is gaining a lot of steam. A lot of people would like to see that agendized. A presentation from Southernman Fire District. I think that's important. I'd like to get that agendized. A presentation from Southerman Fire District. I think that's important. I'd like to get an update from them. And speaking of MCE, I'd like to have a, maybe a brief update from MCE. I hear they've doubled in size according to Ray, but then I've also heard that, you know, they are using, you know, |
| 03:15:43.87 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:15:43.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:15:44.00 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:16:27.52 | Linda Pfeiffer | There's a series of articles in the Marin Post that suggest that MCE is not using quite the clean energy that we think they are. And so I just have some questions for MCE. Any other few questions? |
| 03:16:40.03 | Jill Hoffman | THE END OF |
| 03:16:40.09 | Linda Pfeiffer | I'm sorry. |
| 03:16:40.57 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:16:40.60 | Linda Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 03:16:40.62 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:16:40.67 | Linda Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 03:16:40.68 | Tom Theodorus | Thank you. We had interviews for Disaster Preparedness Committee today, two excellent candidates. We would be normally scheduled to appoint next week, but what I'd like on this particular committee and probably future appointments is that when we are interviewing people, we |
| 03:16:41.21 | Linda Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 03:16:41.23 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:16:46.22 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 03:16:59.45 | Tom Theodorus | a memo that says, how many committee members are there? How many were replacing? Are there going to be any other interviews, for example, My understanding for disaster preparedness is Most of them are termed out. How many are we going to be appointing? So we're just not sure when we do that. So for example, if it's one space is open and there are two candidates and we've interviewed them both, we should know that. If there are three but we're only interviewing two tonight and four next time and we'll appoint further. So just so that we understand what we're doing when, and probably be helpful at the time we interview as well. But certainly before we appoint, we need that information. |
| 03:17:35.39 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Any other reports of significance? Seeing nothing. All right. We're adjourned. Thank you. |
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