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| 00:00:05.82 | Unknown | Okay, you guys ready? |
| 00:00:08.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:08.28 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:08.44 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:13.82 | Unknown | Good evening and welcome to the June 28, 2016 South Salido City Council meeting. Lily, could you please call |
| 00:00:23.03 | City Clerk (Lily) | Councilmember Weiner. |
| 00:00:25.23 | Herb | Present. |
| 00:00:25.80 | City Clerk (Lily) | Councilmember Theodorus? Present. Councilmember Pfeiffer? Here. Here. |
| 00:00:27.00 | Herb | President. |
| 00:00:30.09 | City Clerk (Lily) | Vice Mayor Withee. here. |
| 00:00:32.99 | Herb | Thank you. |
| 00:00:33.53 | City Clerk (Lily) | Mayor Hoffman. Present. |
| 00:00:34.96 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:00:35.81 | City Clerk (Lily) | Thank you. |
| 00:00:37.17 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:37.21 | City Clerk (Lily) | Thank you. |
| 00:00:37.22 | Unknown | Um. |
| 00:00:37.63 | City Clerk (Lily) | I'm just going to say, Thank you. |
| 00:00:37.95 | Unknown | You can whisper now. |
| 00:00:41.04 | Unknown | Items D1 through D2 will be discussed in closed session. Do we have any public comment on closed session items? |
| 00:00:41.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:49.59 | Unknown | Seeing no one approaching. Moving on. City Council adjourns to closed session. To consider the following, a conference with legal counsel, potential litigation. I'm not. pursuant to California government code section 54956.9 E1 and conference with the real property negotiator . California government code section 54956.8. We are in closed session. |
| 00:01:20.41 | Jonathon Goldman | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:01:27.46 | Unknown | Good evening and welcome to the June 28, 2016 Sausalito City Council meeting and our new PA system which is much more robust than our previous one apparently. |
| 00:01:38.85 | City Clerk (Lily) | Would you call the roll please? Councilmember Pfeiffer. Council member Weiner. |
| 00:01:44.35 | Herb | Present. |
| 00:01:44.91 | City Clerk (Lily) | Councilmember Theodorus. Present. |
| 00:01:46.01 | Herb | present. |
| 00:01:46.48 | City Clerk (Lily) | you THE CITY. |
| 00:01:47.74 | Herb | here. |
| 00:01:47.76 | City Clerk (Lily) | here. you Thank you. Mayor Hoffman. |
| 00:01:49.33 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:01:49.35 | City Clerk (Lily) | Present. |
| 00:01:51.07 | Unknown | And Leon Hunting, could you please lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance? |
| 00:01:57.16 | Leon Hunting | Thank you. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. |
| 00:01:59.03 | Tom | Thank you. THEIR OWNERS. |
| 00:01:59.57 | Chris Tubbs | Thank you. |
| 00:01:59.91 | Tom | Congratulations to the flag of the United States of America |
| 00:02:03.98 | Unknown | and to the republic for which it stands, |
| 00:02:07.03 | Unknown | nation |
| 00:02:07.69 | Unknown | under God, indivisible, you |
| 00:02:10.46 | Unknown | and justice. Thank you. Excellent job. And do I have a request to remove our jackets if we're so... We feel, yes. Yeah, okay, you guys are already there. Yes, that request is granted due to our beautiful historic building here in Sausalito. |
| 00:02:32.43 | Herb | Are we supposed to roll up our sleeves? Yes. |
| 00:02:33.90 | Unknown | Yes. I don't know. Alrighty, off we go. |
| 00:02:41.49 | Herb | There goes that. |
| 00:02:42.52 | Unknown | . |
| 00:02:42.55 | Herb | Thank you. you you |
| 00:02:43.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:02:43.70 | Herb | . |
| 00:02:43.79 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:02:43.80 | Herb | Thank you. |
| 00:02:43.82 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:02:43.84 | Herb | Bye. |
| 00:02:43.85 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 00:02:43.92 | Herb | You're gonna take it up. |
| 00:02:44.76 | Unknown | Clue. Closed session announcements. We have no closed session announcements. Do we have any public comment on closed session items? Seeing no one approaching, moving on. Do I have a motion for approval of the agenda? |
| 00:03:01.10 | Herb | So moved. |
| 00:03:02.57 | Unknown | Any second? |
| 00:03:03.29 | Herb | Second. |
| 00:03:03.97 | Unknown | All in favor? Aye. |
| 00:03:04.76 | Herb | All right. |
| 00:03:05.79 | Unknown | Motion passes. Special presentation, mayor's announcements. I have one announcement that we are going to have a meeting of our movie Sausalito Movie House Blue Ribbon Committee on Thursday at the firehouse at 3.30. |
| 00:03:24.67 | Unknown | Madam Mayor, I do have a question about the agenda, and I'm not sure when to raise it. It's actually a question for our city attorney. The question of reconsideration, if we vote on an item on a prior agenda, and if a council member would like to revisit that item, is... Is that a viable option for us tonight or not because it's not on the agenda per the Brown Act? |
| 00:03:58.07 | Mary Wagner | It depends on when the item was approved. |
| 00:04:01.06 | Unknown | It was approved the last council session. Last week? you Yes. |
| 00:04:07.44 | Mary Wagner | So I believe, uh... |
| 00:04:11.79 | Unknown | And I don't. |
| 00:04:12.72 | Mary Wagner | It can be voted on at the very next meeting. You won't consider the item tonight. If it was approved by the council, it would be brought back at your next meeting. Okay. |
| 00:04:23.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:04:24.07 | Unknown | And it's based on a film. THE END OF THE END OF THE . |
| 00:04:27.04 | Mary Wagner | That's just it. |
| 00:04:28.41 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:04:28.53 | Unknown | How about if we discuss that under future agenda items later? Okay. It was my hope that we could discuss it during this session. we could conduct the reconsideration during this session. It's just an urgent item. So I told a resident I would raise it. Thank you. |
| 00:04:45.02 | Mary Wagner | What's the item? Up to the city council. And just to reiterate the structure. |
| 00:04:45.34 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:04:49.98 | Mary Wagner | you This sounds really loud tonight. Someone who in the majority of the vote on the item at that meeting or at the next meeting can ask for a motion for reconsideration. That motion is then acted upon by the council. And I'm going to look to see if you have to have a four fifth vote, which I believe you do, but I need to refresh my recollection. |
| 00:05:08.84 | Unknown | Yeah. So I can make the motion. It's up to the committee. |
| 00:05:12.17 | Mary Wagner | the motion. It's up to the council when you want to do that. |
| 00:05:15.53 | Unknown | Got it. |
| 00:05:15.54 | Mary Wagner | Okay. |
| 00:05:16.12 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:05:16.27 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:05:16.30 | Unknown | Why don't you make your motion and we'll see |
| 00:05:17.37 | Unknown | Okay, so I'd like to make a motion to reconsider the council consensus on the Caledonia Street matter regarding I believe one of the at least one of the council members raised the concern as well as I did regarding the financial services and the moratorium on financial services it's been brought to my attention that one local resident serving business is in danger of being I guess removed per I guess a hedge fund and I don't know if this is correct or not, but I also understand that there is another resident serving business next door that could also be... be. |
| 00:06:07.97 | Unknown | I think one of the options under that motion that we made was a third one, which was a moratorium. |
| 00:06:16.93 | Unknown | And I'm just thinking a moratorium only on financial services. |
| 00:06:23.84 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:06:23.85 | Unknown | And then I think we sent that back to the community development for further information about the moratorium. Is that what we decided? |
| 00:06:30.57 | Unknown | Yeah, the idea was they were going to do research and come back to us, and then we were going to discuss the moratorium. But since then, it's been brought to my attention that one, if not two, resident-serving businesses could be out within the next two weeks if we don't do a moratorium on financial services to take a look at that. So... |
| 00:06:52.07 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:06:52.08 | Unknown | on Caledonia's. |
| 00:06:52.96 | Unknown | So, |
| 00:06:54.23 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:06:54.25 | Unknown | Madam Mayor, just to be clear. Go ahead. |
| 00:06:54.82 | Adam Politzer | Just to be clear. Go ahead. even if we were to take action on a moratorium, it doesn't prevent a property or a landlord from evicting their tenant. |
| 00:07:04.81 | Unknown | Correct. But it would certainly help this situation, I think, because if the intent was to move in a hedge fund... and evict a resident serving business and move in a hedge fund, it would at least put a halt on that while the council city staff did the research necessary for Caledonia Street. |
| 00:07:29.29 | Unknown | So let me... |
| 00:07:29.82 | Unknown | you |
| 00:07:29.97 | Unknown | asks, Let me ask you this, Mary. Should we continue this conversation now, or should we maybe let you during the meeting? Thank you. |
| 00:07:38.95 | Unknown | Well, should we vote? Can we get a second and vote on the motion for reconsideration? |
| 00:07:39.64 | Unknown | Bye. for reconsideration. Sure, go ahead. Yes. Mary, have you figured this completely out? Yeah. |
| 00:07:48.06 | Mary Wagner | Sure. |
| 00:07:48.87 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:07:49.76 | Mary Wagner | It's up to the council when you want to have this item considered. You can do it now. You can do it at future agenda items. Staff's not going to be able to bring a moratorium back to you, certainly not tonight, and then not until your first meeting in July, which is July 18th, 19th? Something like that, yeah. So that's three weeks from now. And even then, we would need to be able to do the research to support the findings that we put up on the screen for you last time, which is, you know, the public health safety, welfare, the problem that we're studying, et cetera, et cetera. So, uh, you know, it's up to the council on whether you want to entertain a motion to reconsider, um, |
| 00:07:54.54 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:07:54.76 | Chris Tubbs | AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF |
| 00:08:08.04 | Unknown | Something like that, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. |
| 00:08:28.27 | Adam Politzer | That's the act. |
| 00:08:28.91 | Mary Wagner | Oh, my God. The action that you took at the last meeting was, as Council Member Pfeiffer indicated, you directed staff to conduct a comprehensive inventory of the existing businesses in the CR zone, which would include the side streets, Johnson, Pine, Tourney, Locust, Litho B, and Napa, and then the portion of Bridgeway that's located in the CR zone, return to the council for further review and discussion, and then direct staff to work with the Planning Commission to study the CR Zone and to consider zoning ordinance amendments to modify the allowable land uses. Because as you know, you've got the whole report on what's allowed, what's not allowed, et cetera, et cetera. |
| 00:09:04.87 | Unknown | So my motion stands. I'd like to have a vote on this because to me, and Mary, correct me if I'm wrong, but a moratorium, if the council says they want a moratorium on financial services, it would seem to me that any application forthcoming would at least be in a holding pattern for the council. while the research that needed to be done, which was the catalyst for the moratorium, was complete. Can you |
| 00:09:35.33 | Mary Wagner | Yeah, that's the whole point of a moratorium. So my motion stands. If you're saying you want to adopt a moratorium because the definition of business doesn't serve the purpose, then we'd have to be able to justify those findings of public health, safety, and welfare problems generated from that. |
| 00:09:35.74 | Unknown | advise me that's the whole that's the whole point of a moratorium so you're saying my motion Thank you. |
| 00:09:49.10 | Unknown | Right. So my motion stands because we're in danger of losing two businesses, two resident-serving businesses. |
| 00:09:55.11 | Unknown | Thank you. I'll second the motion. Thank you. |
| 00:10:00.78 | Tom | We just discussed this last week, and as our community development director said, this is a drastic measure. We actually have no evidence of this. This is really a short circuiting of having public input on this type of issue. I think it's, you know, I would just vote no. I mean, we had our chance at it, if you want to put it on the agenda, but we need to have some evidence. I have to say that even last week when we heard this, the type of evidence that we heard wasn't rising to the level of some of the statements that were made. So I suspect these are similar type source messages. So I'm not going to take a drastic measure without appropriate public input from the people affected by this without a notice hearing and having them be able to say that. And we don't have anything before us other than Council Member Pfeiffer's statements showing any evidence of this. |
| 00:10:46.11 | Unknown | and then, |
| 00:10:53.60 | Unknown | Well, if I may follow up, at the last session we had a public hearing, we had multiple people, everyone who came up to the microphone said that this was going on and they were very concerned, including the person who is facing eviction now. THE END OF |
| 00:11:11.32 | Tom | So no identity of any financial services going in. |
| 00:11:12.38 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:11:12.62 | Unknown | any other questions. |
| 00:11:12.68 | Unknown | financial services. Councilmember, Vice Mayor, any thoughts on this or? Councilman Wife? Okay. |
| 00:11:20.85 | Mary Wagner | you madam mayor point of clarification it's a majority vote not a four-fifths on this type of motion |
| 00:11:22.51 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 00:11:26.46 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:11:26.49 | Unknown | So maybe we can just have a vote. Yeah, if we could both have a vote. |
| 00:11:27.10 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:11:27.37 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:11:27.40 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:11:30.18 | Unknown | I'd like to understand what we're voting on here again, because we're voting to... essentially put this item back on the agenda. |
| 00:11:41.86 | Unknown | No, I'm asking for reconsidering. I'm sorry, Ray, was that a question to Mary? |
| 00:11:47.25 | Unknown | That sort of was. I'm sorry. Yeah. That's all right. I'm not sure. |
| 00:11:48.02 | Unknown | I'm not. |
| 00:11:48.29 | Mary Wagner | Bye. |
| 00:11:48.31 | Unknown | Sorry. |
| 00:11:49.05 | Mary Wagner | Yeah. |
| 00:11:50.10 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:11:50.11 | Mary Wagner | So the motion to reconsider would be to reconsider the direction that you gave staff last week on the Caledonia Street item. So we wouldn't necessarily be bringing you a moratorium on the 18th, and I misspoke when I said that. What we would be bringing you is this same item for the council to reconsider the direction that you gave it. |
| 00:12:08.71 | Unknown | And so then on the 18th, if then 19th, sorry, the council did actually reconsider this and decide they wanted staff to explore a moratorium, then what are we looking at in terms of it? I'm just trying to be pragmatic as to when this, the earliest that this could get done. |
| 00:12:11.56 | Mary Wagner | 19th. |
| 00:12:27.91 | Adam Politzer | I think that's a good question. I think that's a good question. Your next meeting is in the 28th, which is one week later. And then we're a break in August. |
| 00:12:28.00 | Chris Tubbs | your next meeting. |
| 00:12:29.18 | Unknown | is, you know, the |
| 00:12:30.53 | Chris Tubbs | with the |
| 00:12:40.33 | Unknown | Does a moratorium need to be in the form of two public hearings, or can it be done in one public hearing? |
| 00:12:49.99 | Mary Wagner | It... It's sometimes done both ways. To do it as an urgency measure that goes into effect right away, and then often city attorneys will advise that you do... Also do a second reading so that if there's any challenge to the validity of the urgency, it still goes into effect. |
| 00:13:02.74 | Unknown | Also, |
| 00:13:08.89 | Unknown | And Mary, we can put You know, we can put limits on that as well. Like it's a six-month moratorium or it's a whatever... whatever we feel is appropriate after the community development director gives us his report. |
| 00:13:20.29 | Mary Wagner | Yeah, there's statutory maximums, but you can always have a shorter period of time. The first period of time, I believe, is 60 days or 45 days, and then you actually notice it as a public hearing item and bring it back for an extension if the council is so directed. Thank you, Mary. |
| 00:13:21.98 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:13:27.80 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:13:33.69 | Unknown | THE COUNCIL. Thank you, Mary. Just a point of clarification. I made the motion for reconsideration to move forward on a moratorium now, why that research was being done. And if I can't make that motion, I mean, I've made the motion for that reconsideration because... because we had it on the agenda at the last session last week. We had public input. My concern is that I have been given new information that a resident serving business and possibly two could be in danger, in jeopardy of getting kicked out. Is there anything else we could do? I mean, if I don't have the votes, I'd like to take the votes, but if we don't have the votes, is there anything else? |
| 00:14:20.66 | Mary Wagner | Well, Councilmember Pfeiffer, it sounds like you don't really want a motion to reconsider. You want a new agenda item because you're not asking to redo the direction you gave last week. You're asking to add another agenda. layer to it. |
| 00:14:32.35 | Unknown | Well, the vote that we took included one option for a moratorium. So I guess my question is, can't I make a motion to reconsider that vote? You did, and we would bring that back to you. |
| 00:14:44.32 | Mary Wagner | to include the moratorium. And we would bring that back to you at your first meeting in July, which is July 19th. And then we'd get direction from the council on whether they want staff to bring back a moratorium. |
| 00:14:51.47 | Unknown | You have to bring back a moratorium. Okay, if that's as soon as I can do it. |
| 00:14:53.04 | Mary Wagner | Or you could bring it up as a future agenda item and ask the council if they want to agendize it for the 19th. Or the council can direct staff to set a special meeting. Those, I believe, are the options. And remember that a four-fifth majority of the council is required for |
| 00:15:03.11 | Chris Tubbs | Oh, special meetings. |
| 00:15:09.81 | Mary Wagner | we need a supermajority of the council to adopt a moratorium. |
| 00:15:13.09 | Unknown | Okay, so I would like to... |
| 00:15:15.97 | Tom | before they ask you a question? Because we're going to vote because you're on this. |
| 00:15:17.83 | Unknown | Yes. I was going to adjust my motion. |
| 00:15:20.60 | Tom | Since this is a fairly drastic measure, can you tell us exactly what addresses are at risk, what are the businesses that are being evicted, and what are the businesses that are going in, and who gave you that information? Because this is all important to this vote. |
| 00:15:34.20 | Unknown | Sure. No, absolutely. The owner of the salon, Lily Shahabi, I don't have the address. |
| 00:15:40.54 | Tom | Yeah. |
| 00:15:43.90 | Tom | Okay, Lillise, can we... |
| 00:15:44.41 | Unknown | And I was told that she has been asked to be out by July 1st, or it might have been August 1st. And... |
| 00:15:57.74 | City Clerk (Lily) | Mm-hmm. |
| 00:16:05.69 | Unknown | that the financial services that are currently on the second floor are going to be moving into the ground. level. |
| 00:16:17.50 | Tom | And Lily told you this. Correct. |
| 00:16:19.52 | Unknown | Correct, Lily Shahabi, right. |
| 00:16:24.91 | Tom | There was a second you said that you should. There's Lily and... |
| 00:16:27.20 | Unknown | I heard there was a possibility of there is a... I don't know, as a doggy shampoo place next door to Lily Shahabi's that I have been told by Lily that could possibly be in danger as well of eviction down the road, down the road. So anyway, that was why I was concerned. |
| 00:16:59.97 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:17:01.48 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:17:01.49 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:17:01.73 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:17:02.47 | Unknown | As I understand, the motion that's on the floor is that we reconsider the matter that we heard last week about Caledonia Street. |
| 00:17:12.22 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 00:17:12.58 | Unknown | AND, UH, and come back on the 19th, which is our next city council meeting, and hear information, including the analysis from community development, but also an analysis about a moratorium and whether or not we want to vote on that at that meeting at the night. Because we could do an emergency one. for 30 days or something? |
| 00:17:37.49 | Mary Wagner | Yeah, if you want to do that, that's not that agenda item. And that agenda item was, do you want us to bring back a moratorium? So the motion to reconsider is literally bringing back that motion for reconsideration, that agenda item. So if you want us to do that, we can certainly do that. |
| 00:17:37.72 | Unknown | At that moment. |
| 00:17:44.44 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:17:44.78 | Chris Tubbs | Thank you. I'm going to go. |
| 00:17:47.56 | Unknown | Right. |
| 00:17:47.85 | Chris Tubbs | Thank you. . |
| 00:17:48.84 | Unknown | agenda. Yeah. Right. Madam Mayor, it seems to me that if you want this back on the agenda, the fastest way to do it is not to do it via reconsideration, but to do it as a new agenda item to discuss a moratorium and to put that on for the 19th. Wouldn't it be, Mayor? Yes. The fastest way to have this issue discussed. |
| 00:17:54.07 | Mary Wagner | It seems like. |
| 00:18:13.21 | Unknown | If I'm more likely to get the votes that way, I'm happy to do it that way. So I withdraw my motion, and I will raise it as a future agenda item. And I hope I have support for that. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. |
| 00:18:25.44 | Unknown | Thank you. All right. Well done. Good group effort on that one. Moving on to our... No other announcements, I don't think. Communications. This is the time for City Council to hear from citizens regarding matters that are not on the agenda. Except in very limited situations, state law precludes the Council from taking action or engaging in discussions concerning items of business that are not on the agenda. However, the Council may consider matters not on the agenda. Oh, sorry. The council may refer matters on the agenda of city staff or direct that the subject be agendized for a future meeting. Please make sure you have completed a speaker's card and turn it into the city clerk if you'd like to speak during this time period. DO WE HAVE ANY PEOPLE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? I see no one approaching. Moving on. Item number three. Action items of the previous meeting. Minutes of the regular City Council meeting of June 14th 2016 and special city council meeting of June 21st, 2016. Do I have a motion to... |
| 00:19:28.30 | Unknown | Ooh. |
| 00:19:29.10 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:19:29.25 | Unknown | it. |
| 00:19:29.62 | Unknown | or |
| 00:19:30.03 | Unknown | you |
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| 00:19:30.33 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:19:30.35 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:19:30.36 | Unknown | THEIR HOME. |
| 00:19:30.70 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:19:30.84 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:19:30.85 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:19:30.87 | Unknown | you |
| 00:19:30.94 | Unknown | Madam Mayor, I do have one, just a request on the minutes for June 14, 2016, page 3 of 8, where I move to move the consent calendar item 4-H to a future council agenda. I guess I just, which one was 4-H? it's helpful I think in the minutes to mention the Which one was 4-H? It's helpful, I think, in the minutes to mention the item. The same thing with the consent calendar item above 4-H. Item 4E. I think when items are being pulled off the consent calendar and the action minutes, if someone is going back for a record, I think it's helpful to just say calendar item 4A Complete Streets Policy or something like that, whatever it was. 4A and 4H. And this is on page 3 of 8. |
| 00:20:37.61 | City Clerk (Lily) | Thank you. |
| 00:20:37.69 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:20:37.71 | Unknown | I can add those titles in. |
| 00:20:38.94 | City Clerk (Lily) | Thank you. |
| 00:20:38.96 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:20:38.98 | City Clerk (Lily) | you |
| 00:20:39.13 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:20:39.87 | City Clerk (Lily) | Thank you. |
| 00:20:41.64 | Unknown | That's all. Was that it? Okay. Any opposition to that request? I don't think so. Okay. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Motion passes. Okay. Consent calendar, none. Excellent. Moving right on. |
| 00:20:48.17 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:20:56.14 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:20:56.58 | Unknown | Ha. |
| 00:20:57.03 | Unknown | . I didn't get them who moved and who seconded, sorry. |
| 00:21:01.10 | Unknown | I don't think there was one. |
| 00:21:01.44 | Tom | there was a lot of people. |
| 00:21:01.81 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:21:01.84 | Tom | Okay. |
| 00:21:02.28 | Unknown | I'll give you a question. Because it's some of them. |
| 00:21:05.49 | Tom | Wow. |
| 00:21:05.71 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:21:05.74 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:21:06.18 | Tom | I will move that we approve the minutes of June 14th and June 21 as amended by Council Member Pfeiffer. |
| 00:21:13.50 | Unknown | So, |
| 00:21:13.74 | Tom | Thanks. |
| 00:21:14.03 | Unknown | Second. |
| 00:21:14.40 | Tom | Thank you. |
| 00:21:14.52 | Unknown | All in favor? Aye. Okay, moving on to item five, public hearing. None. Excellent. Moving on to item six, business items. 6A, public hearing. Thank you. Adopt fiscal year 2016-2017 budget and enacting resolutions. Melanie Purcell, our administrative services director. You have the floor. |
| 00:21:38.93 | Unknown | Thank you. One more time. Thank you. This is the FY 2016-17 budget and the FY 2016-18 two-year resource allocation. Basically, what we're going to do is go through the formal steps to enact the approvals that you conducted two weeks ago. So, real quickly, we need to approve the appropriation limit for FY 2016-17 pursuant to Article 13b of the California Constitution, otherwise known as the GAN limit. Approve the budget. This is an actual resolution formalizing your action of two weeks ago. Approving the resolution establishing the authorized staffing levels and salary ranges, particularly for temporary positions. Approving the resolution adopting terms of the loan, as promised, between the general fund and the Martin Luther King Complex or MLK fund. Finally, to request that staff and the finance committee return to city council within the first quarter of fiscal year 2016-17 with a detailed master fee schedule update and the pension and OPEB trust fund policy. So the GAN limit has been a requirement of state law. since the early 90s and basically establishes the maximum property tax, taxes that can be levied and collected by the city of Sausalito. We are actually in fact well below our limit. As you can see here, the appropriation limit is $13 million in property taxes. We are way below that limit in terms of collections. You can see our total revenues are actually only 15 million, so way below that. This is the total appropriations in adopting FY 2016-17. This is the same material that you saw last week. Total budget appropriation for the general fund is 15,951,690. Total net of transfers is $35,189,850. That's all funds net of transfers. The staffing levels are 74 authorized full-time positions. This is the increase of the one parking enforcement officer. All other changes were through contractual services and compensation ranges for part-time officials, including city council and the planning commission. Part-time wages are particularly calculated each year to reflect changes in the law. We did have an increase in minimum wages, as well as to reflect marketplace. Elected officials' compensation, we are including a clause in here, as you can see at the top, that formalizes a longstanding practice of the city of Sausalito, allowing council members to defer payment or to not collect their wages and, in fact, direct them to a nonprofit serving public public interest in the city of Sausalito. So these are up here. You'll notice the ranges are not greatly up, but we have umped up them slightly on the tie end just to accommodate increases and anticipated future increases. We are at $10 minimum wage. And the state of California slated to go up with increases over the next few years. There will be some adjustments, I would anticipate, over the course of the year as we refine job descriptions and positions as well. So just a heads up that that will be coming. in the future. The terms of the loan from the general fund to the Martin Luther King complex, this is the longstanding loan between the two previously at an interest-free arrangement. We're setting a 3% interest rate, a credit of $4.2 million in recognition of the certificates of participation being used for parks, not MLK. 14-year amortization so that both the COP payments and this loan payment will end June 30, 2030. The other intent is to maintain relatively close to level payments so that there's not any particular balloon payments or spikes or valleys in payments either to the general fund as a revenue source or out of the MLK fund as a payment. Finally, the first quarter follow-up. We've discussed having a master fee schedule update. There are approximately $50,000 in revenues recognized in this budget that we need to specifically address, but rather give the finance committee a little more time to evaluate those details. And have the Finance Committee and staff pull together a OPEB and pension trust funds policy to address the funding and usage of the trust funds for long term stability, reflecting the desire of council to ensure minimum impact to the general fund and operations in the future. Great news, the FY16-17 budget maintains and enhances, you actually get to say those words, enhance the high level of services in the city of Sausalito. Increasing landscape maintenance contract dollars by over $166,000. Dedicated capital program management, Committing resources to our construction. capital projects moving forward on the city hall civic center beautification project, doing design drawings this year, finalizing bids and construction dollars in future years. doing intensive work out at the MLK complex funded through the COPs. That includes roofing, updating HVAC and electrical systems, sports fields, tennis courts, lots of items that will improve quality of life and rent stability at the MLK site. And Parks and Rec, great news. We will be complete with Robin Sweeney Park. Well underway with Southview Park and Dunphy Park. Dunphy will go to the Planning Commission for review. hopefully at the summer. Continuing support for cars. 89 residents, I believe this was reported earlier, 89 residents received services in 2015. We would anticipate that high level of service continuing for a very nominal cost. Community development, permitting and tracking software to streamline this development application process. Part-time contracted code enforcement officer, part-time contracted assistant building inspector. Updating the general plan over the course of the next three years. And upgrading the senior planner to allow for more complex development projects and the general plan update process. We'd like more expertise in that area. and police, adding that additional parking enforcement officer position, additional part-time seasonal police assistance, an emergency services planner, again part-time position, adding license plate readers for three locations, and creating a successful succession plan within the department to ensure continuity and long-term stability. These are the fund balance projections. As indicated at the last meeting, you'll see a change of $157,000 to the general fund, very minimal changes to the other funds projected. |
| 00:28:34.68 | Unknown | The general fund retains a 4.17% above policy fund balance. That includes 21.27% as a minimum policy, so a total of 25, just over 25% fund balance. It's a very healthy position. The other special revenue funds and construction funds, the largest movement you'll see is in the capital projects, completing projects and moving those forward in both sewer and general capital. The COPs, the Measure O funds, and then sewer construction. I apologize, Measure O is not included in the changed fund balance. That is an operating dollar. Next steps. Move to adopt the following four budget resolutions. Approving the appropriation limit for FY 2016-17, pursuant to Article 13B of the California Constitution, known as the GAN limit. Approving the budget for the 2016-17 fiscal year. Approving the resolution establishing the authorized staffing levels and salary ranges for all permanent and temporary positions for fiscal year 2016-17. approving the resolution adopting terms of the loan from the general fund to the Martin Luther King Complex Fund, and requesting staff and the finance committee return to the city council within the first quarter of fiscal year 2016-17 with a detailed master fee schedule update and pension and OPEB trust funds policy. |
| 00:29:57.05 | Unknown | Thank you, Melanie. Do we have any questions from the city council for Melanie? |
| 00:30:05.49 | Unknown | Nope. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE BUDGET AND THIS AGENDA ITEM? See no one approach. Moving on, do we have discussion amongst city council on this issue? |
| 00:30:26.62 | Unknown | Yeah, so I... I'm actually, I still have, I still can't support elements of this budget, which is why I am not going to be able to vote. vote for the budget. Primarily I'm very concerned about the placeholder that remains in the budget for the South Gateway project among a couple other things. But the other motions I can support and so I guess if we could take these one at a time I could make the first motion. |
| 00:31:07.22 | Unknown | I'm sorry. We're getting still out of the way. Any other discussion? |
| 00:31:10.10 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:31:12.38 | Unknown | Any other discussion from council members? I do. |
| 00:31:14.30 | Tom | I do. I just want to say thank you, Melanie, for putting together your presentation and the budget, which is an excellent budget. And those of you who follow us, this has been the easiest, certainly, in my term. And so I don't want people to get the idea that there wasn't a lot of work put into this. Because, first of all, Melanie, you've done an excellent job taking over from Charlie Francis and moving that along and Adam. And all the staff had to go through the budget process. You can go on our website and look at their videos. A lot, a lot of work has gone into this budget. I think that work is reflected in the fact that we haven't had as much discussion up here. So I want everyone who's watching to know that a lot of work is done. We've had three budget meetings, and there's been a lot of work behind the scenes bringing it to us. I want to talk about that. I do want to say also, besides all the work of the staff, I do want to compliment everybody on the city council because we really had, staff was available for answering questions and each of the members of the city council went outside of the council meetings and made sure they had all the information so that they can make decisions on this. And again, there are very many, many decisions that have to be made and they're important. So I do want compliment everyone I do also want to talk we've said it before about the Finance Committee all the work they've done Mayor Hoffman and Councilmember with he and all the work they have spent hours and hours on the budget and that's not the only thing they do so it's important and I do want to say one one extra thing The mayor has been on the finance committee for six months. I was on last year. We had Jonathan Leon. But for the last three and a half years, Council Member Withey has been on the finance committee and has done an excellent job and has really helped in the transitions and brought his executive and his financial acumen to the city. So I just want to compliment him. And all the work. We talked the other day, and he was giving one story of spending four hours of his 60th birthday in a finance committee. And anyone that's been on the finance committee knows that that's real dedication to do that. And I finally want to say thank you to all the people that have input on this. And it's really important that we get that, and we've had the cars, cars and it's also beautiful and all the people that have had the input. And I also want to say that everyone can go on our website and you look under finance and look under transparency and look under our transparency tool and you could look at everything. It's really amazing. All the lists you can go through. And you'll see on our website that the grand jury gave us an A plus in transparency, which included our financial transparency. So I think we should all be proud of that. Thank you. |
| 00:34:09.28 | Unknown | Any other comments? |
| 00:34:10.28 | Herb | No, my comments. Melanie, thank you very much. You really worked out and put this together. Mayor Hoffman, Vice Mayor Withey, thank you very much. You saved a lot of my time by doing that. And when did we get the new clock? |
| 00:34:26.97 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:34:29.83 | Herb | you Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:34:31.55 | Unknown | That's it. |
| 00:34:32.86 | Herb | Thank you. |
| 00:34:34.29 | Unknown | Thank you. So I'd like to reiterate my thanks to the staff, to Melanie, and... Uh... the really Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. amazingly hard work to sort of come in, understand our budget, get our arms around it, and end up with, I think, a very satisfactory product. The old joke about, well, budgets have got to be balanced, and of course, that's a given. But there's another way, I think, a really important way to look at what balance means in a budget and What balance can also mean in a budget is that you've got a balanced investment. across all the different things that we do so that you don't just focus on one thing. You try and figure out how to allocate your investment dollars into the different capital projects, into parks versus roads versus storm drains and so on. And in the end, I think what we've managed to achieve over a number of years, councils before us, not just the the last council for a number of years. But councils before us is to build a very, very strong financial organization economic system in this city. It's working. It's resilient, which is one of our key goals. And we have plenty of reserves. And we have made sure that we haven't just done one thing, but we've looked at pensions. We've looked at all the capital investments, and we've also made sure that our departments are strong. We've got the means to recruit first-class staff, and we've given each of the departments the tools primarily that they've asked for so that they can get their job done. And I think that's a very satisfactory outcome. So well done. |
| 00:36:46.25 | Unknown | I'd just like to quickly echo everybody else's comments. And for those of you at home that are interested in finding out more about the budgetary process, you can look at the agendas on May 17th, May 24th, and June 14th. Those are the three previous meetings where we have exhaustively talked about our budget. And, you know, and... And also keeping in mind that that's just the window dressing for the extreme amount of work that went behind and often robust discussions in our meetings about how to prioritize different things on the budget. And so I thank everybody for your input and your patience. And so do we have a motion? |
| 00:37:25.76 | Unknown | I have a motion, Madam Mayor, but before I do, I want to thank Melanie, too. I have thanked you every time you give this budget, and I was remiss in not starting off with a big thank you, as always. You answered my questions. You met with me. And I remember once I was reviewing the budget over the weekend, and I was going through various documents, and bling, I got an e-mail, and it and it was from you and I thought what's she doing working on a Saturday and then I was working on the materials and suddenly bling I got another email from you you were working on a Sunday so I know how much work you've done and thank you so much for all of your effort it's really come together also, thank you for all of staff for the hard work and everything and all the answers and your responsiveness to all of the questions. So I guess I would like to move to adopt. I just had it here in front of me, and I switched. Move to adopt approving the appropriation limit for fiscal year 2016 through 17 pursuant to Article 13B of the California Constitution, GAN limit. |
| 00:38:42.50 | Herb | SECOND. |
| 00:38:42.72 | Tom | Thank you. |
| 00:38:42.88 | Herb | you |
| 00:38:43.31 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:38:43.52 | Unknown | favor? |
| 00:38:43.90 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:38:43.92 | Unknown | Aye. |
| 00:38:44.26 | Herb | Aye. you I THINK WE EACH ONE OF US MAYBE SHOULD GO. |
| 00:38:49.54 | Unknown | Okay. You want to? |
| 00:38:51.99 | Herb | I don't know. |
| 00:38:52.88 | Tom | Thank you. |
| 00:38:52.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:38:53.00 | Unknown | Go ahead. |
| 00:38:53.66 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:38:54.76 | Herb | Thank you. |
| 00:38:54.79 | Tom | The second? Okay. |
| 00:38:55.78 | Herb | Thank you. |
| 00:38:55.80 | Unknown | you |
| 00:38:55.84 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:38:55.85 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:38:55.97 | Unknown | Good afternoon. |
| 00:38:56.16 | Tom | Approving the budget for |
| 00:38:56.83 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:38:56.88 | Unknown | Prove. |
| 00:38:58.82 | Tom | the 2016-17 fiscal year. |
| 00:39:02.50 | Unknown | Second? All in favor? |
| 00:39:04.74 | Tom | Aye. |
| 00:39:04.80 | Unknown | Bye. Thank you. |
| 00:39:06.72 | Unknown | No. Motion carries. |
| 00:39:10.77 | Unknown | I move to approve the resolution established in the authorized staffing levels and salary ranges for all permanent and temporary positions for fiscal year 2016-17. Second. |
| 00:39:10.82 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:39:25.65 | Unknown | All in favor? Aye. Opposed? |
| 00:39:26.45 | Unknown | I am. |
| 00:39:26.97 | Herb | THE END OF THE END OF THE Thank you. |
| 00:39:28.76 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:39:29.50 | Herb | Approving the resolution adopting terms of the loan from the general fund to the Martin Luther King Complex Fund. |
| 00:39:30.45 | Unknown | resolution. |
| 00:39:37.52 | Herb | And. and we, |
| 00:39:40.03 | Unknown | voting on that? No. I think we need to vote on that one. Yeah. So I second that. |
| 00:39:41.24 | Herb | you Thank you. |
| 00:39:43.59 | Unknown | Thank you. Okay, all in favor? Aye. Any opposed? |
| 00:39:46.34 | Unknown | Hi. GAME. MOTION CARRIES. |
| 00:39:49.84 | Unknown | Motion carries. |
| 00:39:50.48 | Unknown | Thank you. Do you want to do the last one, Jo? |
| 00:39:52.03 | Unknown | Oh, sure. A move that requests staff and the finance committee to return to the city council within the first quarter of fiscal year 2016-2017 with a detailed master fee schedule update in pension and OPEB trust fund policy. |
| 00:40:06.69 | Herb | second. |
| 00:40:07.67 | Unknown | All in favor? Aye. Opposed? |
| 00:40:08.43 | Herb | Hi. |
| 00:40:11.01 | Unknown | No? Okay. Thank you, Melanie. |
| 00:40:12.01 | Herb | Thank you, Melanie. |
| 00:40:12.87 | Tom | Thank you. Thank you, Melanie. |
| 00:40:13.38 | Unknown | Thank you, Melanie. Unanimous on all of those motions. Everyone except for the first one. The second one? The second one. I'm sorry, pardon me. Second one. |
| 00:40:14.96 | Tom | THEM. |
| 00:40:19.38 | Unknown | Second one. Sorry. |
| 00:40:20.02 | City Clerk (Lily) | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:40:20.06 | Chris Tubbs | All right. |
| 00:40:21.41 | Unknown | Yeah, second one. Okay. All right, thank you. Good work, everybody. Moving on, we're on to item 6B. Update and status report concerning proposed conveyance of Butte Street property for conservation purposes and Mary is going to kick us off. |
| 00:40:33.36 | Chris Tubbs | Update and |
| 00:40:42.42 | Unknown | And Mary, before you do, I just would like to say I need to recuse myself from this topic. This is, again, the conveyance of the Butte Street site because I have been not only council member, I've been secretary of open space Sausalito. So I've been helping to save this site. Thank you. Thank you. STATE. Sure. |
| 00:41:10.92 | Unknown | Thank you. Don't forget. |
| 00:41:14.07 | Mary Wagner | Okay, Mary. Thank you, Madam Mayor, members of the City Council. I'm going to start this item off, and then we'll turn it over to Leon Hunting, who is the Secretary of Open Space Sausalito, who also has with him this evening Bill Monet, who's the President of Open Space Sausalito, and Bill Long, who is here from Marin Open Space Trust. So just a quick overview. This is information that you've heard a couple of times in the past. As you know, Butte Street is located on the south side of Butte Street. We call it the Butte Street property, Butte Street or Butte Lincoln property. It's just over two acres in size. It's currently zoned R2 2.5, which would allow a maximum of one dwelling unit per 5,000 square feet. The city owns one-half undivided interest. They received this interest in this property as a gift from the estate of Ruth Perego. Herb, is that how you pronounce it? Perego? You told me before. And this was accepted by the council in 1995. Until very recently, the city was a co-owner with the Hunt Trust, who owned the remaining half of the property. There had been discussions over the years about the Hunts wanting to transfer their interests to the city, but there was never any agreement reached as a result of those conversations. In March of 2013, the City Council created the Butte Street Task Force with the members listed on your screen to look into the best use for this property. The task force came to the council in February 2014 with an update, and at that time the council voted to confirm the city's intent to donate its interest in the Butte Street property, and that all the terms and conditions for that conveyance would be brought back to the city council for final action. And then again in April of 2015, the task force came back to the council with another update. The council received that report, and at that time the task force recommended that open space Sausalito be allowed time to raise the funds to acquire the hunt's interest in the property. The council disbanded the task force, its work being complete. Open Space Sausalito is a 501c3 nonprofit corporation. They're not affiliated with or controlled by the city. They negotiated an option agreement with the Hunts to acquire their interest in the property. And just recently, I think a couple weeks ago, they were successful in closing that transaction. And now are the happy co-owners of the Butte Lincoln property with the city of Sausalito. With that, I'll pause and turn it over to Leon Hunting, who is the secretary of OSS, for part of the presentation, and then I'll bring it back to talk a little bit about the structure of the conveyance. Thank you, Mary. Thank you. |
| 00:44:01.53 | Herb | Had enough. |
| 00:44:02.27 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:44:02.72 | Unknown | Okay. I haven't even started. |
| 00:44:03.62 | Leon Hunting | I haven't even started telling me that. |
| 00:44:07.06 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:44:07.14 | Unknown | . |
| 00:44:07.80 | Mary Wagner | you |
| 00:44:07.87 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:44:08.07 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:44:09.25 | Leon Hunting | Thank you, Leon. |
| 00:44:09.68 | Unknown | Thank you, Leon. |
| 00:44:18.99 | Mary Wagner | down here. |
| 00:44:23.36 | Mary Wagner | takes 47% off. I've got my fingers on my own. I got it. |
| 00:44:34.16 | Mary Wagner | There you go. |
| 00:44:36.02 | Leon Hunting | That's right. I'm not going to do that. Thank you. Madam Mayor and Council members, I want to thank you very much for letting us come back to you at this time and for giving you an update. |
| 00:44:36.05 | Mary Wagner | Thanks. Okay. |
| 00:44:55.31 | Leon Hunting | on the OSS statement and respond to your questions. But before I say anything about this, I want to take just a personal moment to thank Herb again for asking me to chair the task force for Butte Street. That was an honor and a privilege and greatly appreciate it. |
| 00:45:15.15 | Herb | It was my pleasure, great move. |
| 00:45:17.75 | Leon Hunting | . Open Space Sausalito was formed to provide an appropriate solution to the city's question of what to do with their 50% undivided interest. And the property has been open space for as long as we know. When the task force completed its assignment and recommended that the property be retained as open space, OSS proposed to purchase the Hunt's 50% undivided interest if they were willing to do so. OSS also asked the council to donate the city's interest to OSS if, as a non-profit, it succeeded in purchasing the hunt's 50% undivided interest. The council agreed to the proposal with a vote of 5 to 0. And again, thank you so much for that. The OSS team includes, as Mary has said, Bill Monet, our president, Linda Pfeiffer, his secretary, Jim Richard, our webmaster, and so much more. And me, I'm actually the treasurer. No money sticking out of my pocket, but we entered into discussions with the Hunts a little over a year ago, and they saw our vision immediately, and they agreed to allow us to a structure of a purchase option. We had until July 1st of this year to raise funds and close escrow on a purchase of their interest, and as Mary also said, we are happy to announce that on June 15th we closed escrow on the property. So we're actually partners now. This completed our condition precedent for receiving the city's donation. In our discussions with our city attorney, Mary, We both agree that we should include a conservation easement in our escrow for the donation. We have talked with Bill Long, chairman of Marin Open Space Trust for over a year about the property. We recently proposed that we would like to have them be our grantee in the conservation easement. Um, Bill's here tonight you'll have an opportunity to listen to them and to ask questions. The city, most, and OSS are now working on the details of the easement so they meet the needs of all three parties. And we expect to have this in place in July so you can give your final approval for the donation at that time. We are hoping for that, all pieces to finally be put together. At this point, we, the members of OSS, would like to extend our appreciation to the city council, to the city manager, to the city attorney, the finance committee, and all staff members who have helped to make this project a success. And I have to say, I've been involved in a lot of creative financing in business, in non-profits, and in city activities, MLK being one way back when. But I gotta tell you, there's a real story to this one. So we're gonna break the news. How did we do this? Okay. And I will say, When we started this project, People liked the idea, but they were really hesitant. They never thought we'd get it done. So this is how we did it. Number one, Thanks to the hunts, we agreed to use a purchase option in terms that only had three payments. to $15,000 progress payments, and then the balance on July 1st. Number two, we knew we had to get a level of support quickly, so in our ask to potential donors, we promised to refund all their donation minus only the pro-rata cost of our operating expenses if we didn't succeed. And we always positioned ourselves as volunteers, so we never took any personal compensation. I think it's important to say that. Number three, thanks to Linda, we went to her donor list and got our first $15,000 quickly, which meant that we were able to send the Hunts a check very quickly and by that we proved to them that we would do what we said we would do. Number four, thanks to Jim, he went right to work and built our excellent website. He also put together our mailer system and went door to door with Linda and Bill and raised over $75,000 from individuals. Number five, Ramona Mays came to a fundraiser meeting and heard all about the wildlife on the property and told her husband, John, who, by the way, John built the Cosmodrona and operated it for a number of years, told John about it. And they decided that they would offer a $25,000 grant fund on a matching donation basis. So when word got out with the offer, it really stimulated other donations. Number six, Bill Monet had never been involved in this type of non-profit fundraising, but he had been on HOA boards. So one night he said, let's go for a special assessment on my HOA, the Anchorage. We laughed, had a glass of wine on that suggestion and really didn't think it could happen. Then he put together the proposal and got it approved by the Anchorage Board and passed a vote with the homeowners. That involved 78 units at $1,000 per unit. By that time he was on a roll, so he said, hey, let's ask the 167 unit Marina Vista Home Owners Association if they'll do a $100 assessment. The result was Another vote of approval, so we had even more wine. By the way, Bill is a wine maker. which has made this whole process a whole lot easier. And then seven, not to be outdone, Linda went after Caltrans for a grant. Anyone involved in grant funding knows you don't just call in with a request. But Linda did. She just kept riding the Bronco until she got their interest. And quite frankly, her perseverance reminded me of something that Ross Perot, who ran for president, He hired me many, many years ago to go into financial services. But he always had a saying, no is just an indication of long-term interest. And that's the way Linda approached this. She just kept beating away at this. So late in May, Caltrans called to say they had us tied in with a Caltrans slash Transportation Authority of Marin project. And it was to be a funding offset. We got $82,000 from that. And we got it quickly. You know how things can drag out and out. And we're still thinking. June 30th, June 30th, and Caltrans really helped on that. TAM, Transportation Authority of Marin, was great. So Linda had done the impossible. Well, the success of the project, which is very close now, is a reflection of the desire of our community members to support that which makes Sausalito so special. We applaud our town in recognizing and supporting saving such a critical wildlife habitat as open space. And Mary, of course, had to follow up with due diligence. That's always very important. And so we complied with everything that she requested. So we provided IRS approval as a 501 nonprofit, our Articles of Incorporation as a nonprofit, Public Benefit Corporation, our bylaws, our insurance deck pages for general and property. We put insurance on the property, liability insurance, and we have carried directors' and officers' insurance for some time. We included Jennifer Berry's biologist report on the property and you'll meet Jennifer, she's incredible. And also included the articles of incorporation and bylaws for most. So that's my report, now the president extraordinaire will go on. |
| 00:54:12.60 | Bill Monet | I do have some paper copies of this, if anyone wants to take a copy. |
| 00:54:20.25 | Bill Monet | Jennifer, I mean, Mary and Leon have covered a lot of this so we can be be be quick. And what I wanted to do is really talk about two things. We've been working on this for 14 months, and We have learned a great deal about this land. When we started, we thought it was a nice accidental park. We thought it was a nice green belt separator, much valued. But what we've learned is it's actually much more than that. And I want to spend a few minutes talking about what we've learned. In summary, this land also has great value as wildlife habitat. My first tip for this came from a resident, John Johanson, who's an amateur orthodontologist, a birder. He's been studying this land since 2012, and he came to us and said, look, you guys don't understand. This land is much more valuable from a habitat perspective than you understand. He's been studying it. He says, I've documented over 100 species of birds that either use it for breeding or migratory purposes, which is an extraordinary number on a suburban two-acre parcel. He said there's water in there year-round. I'm not sure why. It's probably some spring. He surmised, but he couldn't prove it. But this gave us our first clue that there's something very special about this, water, lots of birds. If it was truly special, we figured, well, it ought to be documented somewhere in the city's general plan. So we went to the general plan, and it is documented there. As a matter of fact, in the environmental quality element, it's clearly identified as one of only two riparian areas in the city, and the plan recommends that we discourage any construction. The plan, however, as you know, dates from 1995. We wanted a more current view, so we went to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and went to their U.S. wetlands inventory and looked for the Butte Street parcel, and we found it. It's there. They also document it, show the creek very clearly. I'll show you that. More recently, the Regional Water Quality Control Board was involved when Caltrans and TAM became interested in this as a possible mitigation project. They were the judges, the arbiters, and they decided that, yes, this is valuable habitat, which is worth saving. And then, of course, our intrepid biologist, Jennifer Berry, has crawled all over it, quite literally, and she'll tell you a bit more in a moment. First, though, a map. This is from the general plan. This is from the environmental quality element. I've circled in red where is the Butte Street property, and then where the creek flows down to Lincoln Drive, and then into the storm drain system down to the wetlands by Gate 5 Road. So it is very clearly there. But again, this was from 1995. A more recent update is from the US Fish and Wildlife Service. Here again in the lower left-hand corner, It's a little bit faint, but you can see the blue Y-shaped creek. The historical name for that is Rose Creek. And the interesting thing about this, you see that the reason why there is so much water flowing through that creek in the rainy season from October through April is because it's draining a very steep valley in the GGNRA. So the catchment area is fairly large. It's also interesting to note that effectively we are contiguous to the GGNRA. We're separated by a road, but in some cases the road doesn't count. So that gives more interest to the property. At this point, I'm going to step down. I'd like to spend a few minutes, give Jennifer a few minutes. She's the real expert and have her talk about what she found. She is a Sausalito-based biologist and landscape consultant. This is what Jennifer does for a living. She lives in the neighborhood. She's been studying this land before we formed Open Space Sausalito, and so we were very fortunate to find Jennifer and to recruit her. But I will let her – we've included three excerpts from her report. I'll let Jennifer speak to |
| 00:58:21.31 | Jennifer Berry | Hello, I'm Jennifer Berry. Yes, so I work as a biologist doing a habitat assessment for baseline surveys and helping homeowners and land developers and even community organizations such as this one to do habitat assessment and then compliance with fish and wildlife protocols. So I moved into the neighborhood in Sausalito in 2010. And when I'm not doing my work for pay, I put up a lot of my survey equipment in my backyard. And I happen to live about a quarter of a mile from this site. And I can see it from my house. And so over the years, I've set out my wildlife cameras. And I've actually been documenting wildlife as well, just like Jim had. And during that time, I had documented a very large population of coyotes. We had bobcats in the site. We had foxes. We had a lot of animals that was pretty surprising, and I had always sort of wondered why. And so when I was put in contact with Open Space Sausalito, they told me that they were trying to save this parcel. There had been a creek there, and suddenly it started to make sense why all this wildlife would be in the areas, because they have access to fresh water year round. And so I went about this the way I always do my work, which is to first establish a baseline. What species are using this property? what potential species are there and why. And so I saw that we had the U.S. Fish and Wildlife had designated this as a wetland. And so from there I wanted to determine, was this actually historic wetland or was this just an area that was created by the 101 being put through and was it just drainage that was artificially created? And so I went through the archives here in the Sausalito Library and determined that, indeed, this was a historic spring. And it took quite a bit of scrabbling through the underbrush, but I actually found the headwaters of the spring itself. It's in this culvert here that you can see has been reinforced by concrete. I don't know the date of this, but it's been marked in the maps since prior to the 1900s as Waldo Spring. So that was a really great find, and it basically determines the potential for wildlife, because being that this is a historic... spring that has been around for millennia, there could be all sorts of really unique species that would not normally be found in an area, in an urban area such as this. So from there, I actually tracked the wildlife that was in the area. I would start out at some of these trails. I'm going to walk up here. |
| 01:00:55.97 | Unknown | you |
| 01:00:59.90 | Jennifer Berry | It's plugged in. Okay, so I'll just stand here. So you can see on the red dotted lines here, these are actual wildlife trails. These are trails they're using daily. And so basically, all of this area that you see sort of in the light green and the pale green, if you were to add all of that up to make one contiguous area, that's about 50 |
| 01:01:30.34 | Jennifer Berry | So basically, if you look at all of this here and connect it together, that equals about 50 acres of land. And so these animals are traveling from this open space here to this little area right here with a spring on a daily basis. It includes the coyotes, the bobcats, the deer, foxes. And so in addition to that, I looked up on the U.S. Fish and Wildlife and the California Wildlife Surveys and looked at potential species that could be in this area. And because this spring area where the Butte parcel is, the dominant plant there, in addition to the eucalyptus, is the willow trees. And Sausalito, as you know, is named after Little Willow. And so willow is an indicator species of a riparian area, meaning that there could be all sorts of other endangered species that live in the area because of the water. So that could include animals like valley elderberry beetle, endangered species of bats, warblers, fly catchers, and also the red-legged frog and the yellow-legged frog. The potential definitely exists for that habitat to be there. The habitat is there, so those species could be there. And then the other species that we found there were things like wrens, birds of prey nesting, quail, There are salamanders there and newts, which are not currently on the endangered species list, but they're soon to be on the threatened list. So there already are many species there that the state is very concerned about. Okay, and then, so I've been working on a project for the last 10 years now, and I've gotten several grants from different organizations such as Google Earth to actually map the animals that are traveling through the 101 corridor. And this parcel actually fits in very closely with the work that I've been doing for this, which is to map the roadkill hotspots through this area of Marin. Basically, there's this perception that you've got a coyote in your backyard, and they live somewhere else. They live out in the headlands, right? These are wild animals, they live in the forest. But the reality is that these animals don't go out to the forest. There is this big border right here, 101, where... And there is no way for these animals to cross. These animals live their entire lives on this parcel, on these 50 acres. They never go out to the open space. They are urban wildlife. I've walked, as part of this project, I've walked the entire corridor along Sausalito from Spencer Avenue all the way to the Marin City exit, looking for places where animals could be crossing under the road in these big culverts right here where, you know, Bill had said that this is a big drainage area right here. All that water drains down and goes underneath the 101 corridor through these culverts. And so I wanted to determine, are the animals using these culverts to cross underneath like they often do in other places? And the answer is no. So these animals lived their entire lives in Sausalito. And there was a study that was put out in 2006 that also confirmed that. It was by Seth Riley. And he had radio-collared foxes and bobcats in the Marin headlands and had studied them for two years to see their movement to determine whether or not they were crossing into Sausalito? And the answer was no. They lived their entire lives on the other side of 101. And so I think this is really, for me, this is really crucial that we protect this parcel because these animals are dependent on this water source at the Butte parcel. in order to survive, and they don't have any other place to go. And one last thing, if I could say, you know, as to the question of why would we want bobcats and coyotes in our backyard and foxes in our backyard. I get that question a lot. And the answer is that. They are actually doing us a big service by being in our backyards. There's a study that's been done for the last 20 years of coyotes in Chicago. There are only over 200 coyotes that live in the city of Chicago, and they've been studied for 20 years now, radio collared. And they found out that their diet is primarily rodents. And so what they're doing is they're actually providing us a service by being a rodent control. They mostly eat gophers, ground squirrels, and rats. They're not. And they also have this, they exert this pressure on the mesopredators. And mesopredators is basically anything like a raccoon or a skunk or a smaller animal. house cats are another one, feral cats are another one, these animals, their main diet is songbirds. They eat eggs, they eat birds. And so you've got a coyote or a bobcat that comes in, and they will actually keep the population of these other animals down. And so they improve the songbird population in a neighborhood. So not only are they providing a service, but they're also increasing the livability of our, our neighborhoods by, you know, helping our songbirds. So, um, yeah, I think at that point I will turn it over. Um, |
| 01:06:29.42 | Bill Monet | I learn something every time I talk to you. |
| 01:06:30.58 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:06:30.60 | Jennifer Berry | Yeah. |
| 01:06:30.88 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:06:30.99 | Jennifer Berry | Thank you. |
| 01:06:31.29 | Chris Tubbs | I don't. |
| 01:06:33.08 | Bill Monet | Um, |
| 01:06:39.81 | Bill Monet | Let's see. YOU DO IT THIS WAY. |
| 01:06:44.25 | Herb | Yes. |
| 01:06:45.90 | Bill Monet | There we go. Next steps. Well, Leon talked about that. We need to work on the conveyance between the city and open space, Los Lido, and also a conservation easement. We think, our view, is that the best way to protect this land in perpetuity is with a conservation easement. A lot of our donors expect that, including Caltrans and TAM. We want to do it because we think it is the best way. And so we'll be talking with Mary and with Marine Open Space Trust about doing that. I wanted to make a special thanks at this point to TAM and Caltrans. They gave us most of our money and came from other sources, but in May when we were getting close to our deadline, we were very close to where we needed to be but not there yet. And TAM and working with Caltrans provided the crucial bridge amount which allowed us to easily reach our goal and to close the sale with the Hunt family. It was just the right amount of money at just the right time, and it was tremendously helpful to us. I had this statement from Diane Steinhauser, which I like very, very much. I especially liked a bit about the fact that we could take these mitigation funds for a local Marin project and take the mitigation funds and spend them in Marin, too. Very much appreciated. Finally, just a very quick summary and then to thank a few people. As a summary, I'd like to tell you that this would be Sausalito's first wildlife preserve and our only wildlife preserve. Not a park, not a place for skateboards. It is today an accidental wildlife preserve. What we'd like to make it is an official and protected wildlife preserve. A lot of people have helped along the way. in doing this, Bill Whitney, who's the principal project delivery manager at TAM, was very helpful in the last few weeks in closing the deal with TAM. I don't know whether Bill is here. Bill is here. Thank you, Bill. Um, John Clickler from the Linda, Linda Pfeiffer, worked with a number of people early on to try to figure out who was the informal network of people who knew how to get this done. Special thanks goes to John Clickler in Sacramento at U.S. Fish and Wildlife, Monica Gann in Oakland, Caltrans, Office of Biological Sciences. And then, of course, Bill Long from MOST, who is here tonight. From the very beginning, even before OSS was created, Bill has been offering advice and help. We had never done this before. Marine Open Space Trust had done it before. So a big thanks goes to Bill. And now we'd like to partner with Bill on creating a conservation easement. And finally, about 370 citizens of Sausalito who gave money and or work, like Jennifer. for this project. I'm a relative newcomer to Sausalito, and I will tell you, I've been utterly astonished by how deep is the feeling in this town for the local environment and protecting their town. Astonished, but very pleasantly astonished. It's very, very impressive and very nice to see. They certainly came out and supported us. Thank you for your time. |
| 01:09:52.00 | Unknown | Thank you. Mm-hmm. Okay. We have a... More information coming from Mary. |
| 01:10:00.54 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:10:05.11 | Unknown | Yeah, damn. |
| 01:10:09.25 | Mary Wagner | Thank you, Madam Mayor. So the next steps are to work out the details, as was indicated, on the conveyance of the city's interest in the property. The structure currently, and you have this draft agreement in your packet tonight, is for the city to execute a quit claim deed to transfer its interest to OSS. OSS would then obviously hold title to the entire property. I think it's important to point out that while this transaction is being proposed for no money, that the public purpose and the public benefit of the transfer is, one, the preservation of the open space and wildlife preservation, which you've heard a lot about tonight. And then being the lawyer, it's the transfer of the maintenance responsibility and the liability to OSS. going the wrong way. You also heard about the conservation easement. This would be a grant from OSS to most. It ensures that the property remains open space in perpetuity. If the council were so inclined, we could add another layer to that and include a deed restriction in the deed itself. It's a little bit duplicative, but it's not mutually exclusive, and it would just add something directly in that chain of title, even though the easement itself would also be recorded. And we would be requiring that the easement be recorded concurrently or prior to the city's conveyance of its interest in the property, and that the city have the opportunity to approve that easement before it's put in place. This would list out open space Las Lido's maintenance obligation, and then most would be the entity who would enforce the obligations if for some reason they weren't upheld You have a sample or a form conservation easement in your packet tonight. The covenants and the requirements of the easement are particular to the property. If the council wants to provide any direction on what they think would be appropriate covenants and restrictions, we can entertain that direction from you this evening. I've listed some of them up there. You're preventing an unlawful entry and trespass by persons whose activities could degrade or harm the site. An obligation to repair and restore any damage. signage if it's appropriate that it's a natural area for open space or protected natural area or something similar along that. Long-term maintenance, unseasonal watering, although watering doesn't seem to be a problem on this piece of property, preventing the use of fertilizers, pesticides, biocides, and other things that I probably can't pronounce, and preventing the use of motorized vehicles or typical restrictions and things that we've put in that form that you have in front of you tonight. So staff's recommendation is that you direct us to continue to work with OSS and MOST to finalize the conveyance agreement and the conservation easement and then to return to the council at a future meeting for your consideration and action. And with that, I think we are all available to answer any questions you may have. |
| 01:13:14.38 | Unknown | Thank you. So now we move on to City Council questions. Do we have any questions of any of the presenters today? Tom? |
| 01:13:22.41 | Tom | Well, I do have just a quick question. Great presentation, but we'll get into the gushing over how great it is when we get to the commentary. But I do have a question at this point for Mary. If you go back a slide. Would you, on this conservation easement, these covenants, restore and repair and perform long-term maintenance, that would be done by open space Sausalito or is the covenant by most, I guess it is, who would be doing that? |
| 01:13:49.87 | Mary Wagner | Open space Sausalito. The only, the most would be the entity that would be in place to enforce it if it wasn't done. |
| 01:13:54.66 | Tom | to be able to get the Okay, so the covenant is that open space makes a covenant to most and they have legal ability to enforce it. Correct. Okay, thank you. |
| 01:14:00.84 | Mary Wagner | And they get. |
| 01:14:04.13 | Unknown | Correct. Any other questions? Do we have any public comment on this item? I think everybody, all the public did the presentations. But very good. All right, moving on, council discussion. I'll start. I love getting free stuff out of our city, the members of our community. And I love tapping into their expertise for the benefit of our community. And this is a spectacular, I think, example of that. Thanks to Council Member Pfeiffer for leading the charge and helping out with the fundraising. Exceptionally good job. Bill Monet, Leon Hunting, Bill Long. Jennifer Berry, you guys just did a spectacular job, and the 370 other citizens of Sausalito who also participated in this. You know, it's important to keep in mind that we were considering, or apparently, before I came on the council, were considering buying the other half. The city was considering buying the other half of this piece of property and somehow, We not only roped you guys into it, but we had Leon thanking us. for appointing him as chair. And so isn't that a great job by your city council? So I think this is a great asset to our town and a great use of the expertise of our members of our community. And thank you so much for making this such a success. Thank you. |
| 01:15:33.90 | Herb | Well, I want to thank Leon again. I think it wants to go back four years. Yeah, four years ago, I think we addressed this. I knew if anybody could do it, it would be Leon. And thank you very much. And thank everybody else for really making this all happen, come together. And I think as you saw... some of us knew, but a lot of others didn't realize how really natural beauty this piece of property was. The water was there. Everything was there. It's just a matter that it was so dense and covered that now people will ride by and really appreciate it. So thank you very much. |
| 01:16:30.67 | Unknown | Well, I would like to... I echo my appreciation and thanks for all the hard work that everybody's done here. I became quite familiar with this property even before I came on the city council. I was involved in the early days of our housing element back in 2011. And this site was originally thought of as potentially being one that could be developed and have an affordable housing overlay on it. It was quickly rejected for that purpose, I would say, very quickly, because both for all the reasons we've heard today, or at least some of the, you know, it was appreciated that it was an important wildlife preserve, but I think we didn't realize just the extent. And so thanks for all your efforts at helping us understand that. The I don't think one should take very lightly the thought of transferring for absolutely no compensation a piece of city property that the public owns, basically, and to actually hand it over for nothing. Well, it's not that. You've clearly demonstrated the benefit to the Sausalito community. But also importantly, I think it is For the reasons Mary indicated, it's important that if this is going to be done, then if the city is willing to give this property for this great purpose, that it doesn't come back to bite us, and that we make sure that the liability, any future liabilities are clearly handled. And it seems from the documents, everybody's aware of that moving forward. So, again, I'd like to... So I'm very supportive of this and encourage us to move forward to get the final conveyance documents done. I particularly, again, would like to thank everybody involved, Open Space Solstilito, most for willing to be, accepting to be the grantee, the original task force headed by Leonin, and also I'd like to say a special thanks for Councilmember Pfeiffer. She's worked extremely hard on this and has put a lot of effort into this. So she deserves our thanks as well to help this happen. So thank you, everybody. |
| 01:19:32.60 | Tom | I want to thank everybody for all the work on it and an excellent presentation. I learned more about it tonight than I had for quite a while. So thank you for putting that together. And this is just an excellent example of the public-private partnership type thing. I mean, the city had some property, and we had very active and concerned citizens that wanted to make this open space, and we worked together. And so my hat's off to everybody. I do have to particularly congratulate Leon. Leon came to me a few years ago and wanted to have coffee and wanted to talk about Butte, and I thought, oh, he's going to want us to buy that piece. He's going to want city money for that. And then, of course, I was quite relieved when he just said, well, we're going to do that, but we're going to get donated. That sounded like an excellent idea. I did have my doubts. Like you said, I was one of the doubters, too. And I'm very happy to see what you put together. I'm very impressed by you. And, of course, you've had everyone else to support you, including Council Member Pfeiffer and everyone here tonight. So congratulations to all of you and actually congratulations to the whole city. It's very unusual that we would give away city property. So all of the citizens of Sausalito have made this gift as well to make it an open space. So I think everyone should be happy and proud. So thanks for all your good work. |
| 01:20:59.59 | Unknown | So I think, Mary, that we do want to direct staff to continue work and return to council at a future meeting. Thank you. OK. That's it. Excellent. Moving on. |
| 01:21:08.20 | Herb | Thank you. Thank you. I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO GO |
| 01:21:11.25 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:21:11.32 | Unknown | Oh, which one? |
| 01:21:13.11 | Unknown | Yes, let's take a tiny five-minute break. |
| 01:21:22.83 | Unknown | PAY. |
| 01:21:27.18 | Unknown | back on the record. We are now moving on to our next agenda item, which is item 6C, Southern Marin Fire District Update And Strategic Plan and Report and Fire Chief Tubbs will be giving us our presentation. Thank you. You have the floor. |
| 01:21:44.06 | Chris Tubbs | Thank you, Mayor Hoffman and Vice Mayor Withey, Council members. For the record, Chris Tubbs, your fire chief. I want to thank the council for the opportunity to be before you again tonight and provide you with a summary of what's been going on in the fire district in the last year. I would point out probably in the first part of this, it's really a high-level summary. It's not going to be an exhaustive list. I know you're not here all night tonight, and I don't want to keep you here all night, so we'll try and hit to the high points. So just as a reminder, when I was here about a year ago, we last spoke about my somewhat recent arrival to the district and where we were at as an organization. And this was mostly about me learning, sort of trying to come up to speed with the things that were going on in the department, the current initiatives, perhaps some of the things that had been challenges prior to my arrival and looking to chart a new course. |
| 01:22:37.59 | Chris Tubbs | So our focus at the time, I shared some of those initiatives, which I've listed up here. And again, strategic plan was one of those. We had identified that as an item of work that we wanted to do after completing a vision process for the organization that resulted in both a vision statement and a vision document. I also shared what we saw coming down the road. And some of these were driven by external forces, and some of them were self-imposed for strategic reasons. And again, you can see some of those items on the screen. So what have we been doing? What have we accomplished? It's been a very busy year for us. Our focus has been about, again, assessing some of the things in our organization, and we did that formally through the stakeholder strategic planning process, which I'm happy to answer some questions about later on. We revisited our mission statement, ensuring that we had a clear path and plan for moving forward and to continue working on initiatives that we believe are in the best interests of our citizens. And many of these were validated through the external stakeholder process. I'd like to call your attention to a couple of highlights on this list. One is the ISO review. So we completed an ISO review, and for your information, just as a reminder, ISO is the insurance services office. They provide what is called a personal protective class rating. That is what insurance rates your premiums are based on. Sausalito was last rated in 2003 and received a classification of five. The scale is one to ten, ten being the worst, one being the best. As a result of our process with ISO, we improved Sausalito's rating to a class two. We're currently in discussion with them over their calculations and believe that we should be actually at a class one. We'll report back to the council if that change takes place, which we believe it will. Additionally, as I mentioned, we went through a stakeholder driven strategic planning process, and I provided some detail about that in the staff report. And as a result of that, we have used that to build our budget this next year, and we have included in our budget some very specific measurable objectives around the nine strategic initiatives and the objectives and then the core critical tasks. We're also in the process of wrapping up a deployment analysis, which we initiated at the beginning of the fiscal year. And the deployment analysis will give us some assessment about where our resources are located, our staffing levels, our response times, and things of that. nature. We also, as part of our initiatives for transparency with the community, we deployed OpenGov. And as I know, the city of Sausalito is very familiar with that tool. We're now one of only four agencies in Marin County that use that and provide that tool to our citizens. It's something we're very excited about. So what do we see coming down the road? Like I said, we're in the process of finalizing our deployment analysis. We see a number of challenges in the remainder of the current year and into next. We also have a number of initiatives that are maturing and some that we are initiating but our focus has been again about positioning ourselves more strategically And what I mean by that is ensuring that there is intentionality in what we do. And I like the way that Peter Drucker puts it. We're not focusing on future decisions, but we're focusing on the futurity of present decisions. We finalized our internal assessments and adopted a strategic plan that provides a clear and measurable roadmap for us, something that we can report back to regularly to our board as well as to our citizens. The changes in our environment have and will require our focused attention, and we look forward to doing this good work for our community. And that's really a high-level summary. Again, I didn't want to take too much of the council's time tonight, but just provide kind of a high-level summary of what is going on in the district. I also received a request from the city to provide you with an update on response times for the city of Sausalito. And I'd like to provide a little background information. So we're looking at the years 2013 through 2015. And response time is actually broken into a continuum. And there are three separate elements of that. One is what's called the call processing time. Another is called the turnout time. And finally, the travel time. And the reason that I've highlighted the turnout time is because it's the only part of the response time continuum that we actually have control over. And I'll explain that. We contract for our dispatch services from the Marin County Sheriff's Office. They're responsible for the call processing time, and that's the time from when a 911 call is received at the dispatch center until a dispatcher initiates a response. The travel time is a time from where the station or the unit receives the dispatch until it begins to move towards the incident. And finally, the travel time is once the vehicle starts moving and then when it arrives. And travel time, it's very important to note, travel time is something that we have really no control over. What dictates travel time is where the incident is located relative to the fire station and all of the infrastructure in between. So things like the width of our roadways, our traffic signaling devices, traffic, obstacles in the road such as parked vehicles, speed bumps, those kinds of things. So we really have little control over travel time, and the fire service spends a lot of time focusing on the turnout time. |
| 01:28:13.18 | Unknown | Excuse me, should we hold our questions until at the very end, or do you want questions as we... |
| 01:28:18.71 | Chris Tubbs | I only have probably another minute or so. Yeah. The other thing I would point out to the council's attention is this last year, the Marin County Sheriff's Office has transitioned from a 1970s edition computer-aided dispatch system to a current one. That will bring to us more information and more, we believe, actually accurate information. And what I mean by that is the degree in which we can measure the accuracy of the time. So in the old system, we could measure minutes and seconds. Now we can get into tens and hundreds of seconds, which provides us a lot more accuracy in our response time data. We also transitioned to a new records management system. And a records management system is where we input information from both the CAD system and then input from our field personnel after they respond to a call. And then totally that information is the basis of how we calculate our response times. We are, as I mentioned earlier, we're in the process of finalizing a deployment analysis, but I did get a preview of that from the vendor, which is the basis of which I provide the response time numbers tonight for the city of Sausalito. 2013, we had a response time of 9 minutes 27 seconds. 2014 was 9 minutes 44 seconds. 2015, 10 minutes 12 seconds. But I'd like to offer a couple of caveats. First of all, these times are representative of all emergency responses within the city of Sausalito. We have not filtered any of those with regards to criticality. What do I mean by that? There is obviously a large difference between going to a person's home to assist with a small laceration and a cardiac event. That does affect the speed in which our folks respond. And so we haven't had an opportunity yet to dig into this data and really filter out the critical incidents to determine what the response times actually are. We also believe that there's some further analysis we can do around the types of calls because that affects the response as well. For example, when we have people responding to a medical incident, they're not required to wear their full firefighter protective clothing. They are required to wear that before they get on a fire engine so that they're ready to fight fire when they arrive. That also affects the turnout time. And so I provide those numbers with the council tonight and again as we begin to get more information from our deployment analysis and can dig into the numbers, we'll be happy to provide more updated and ideally a little bit more specific information. And with that, I'm ready for questions. |
| 01:31:00.31 | Unknown | Thank you very much for that presentation and thank you for responding to my questions about the response times. I I have to say that the, can you tell us, is there history on the response times for like 2010, 2011, before annexation? Because I've looked at some of that and, well, anyway, before I comment. |
| 01:31:30.40 | Chris Tubbs | I'm sure there is. I don't have those numbers with me. |
| 01:31:32.88 | Unknown | Okay, okay. You said nine minutes and how many seconds for 2013? |
| 01:31:39.56 | Chris Tubbs | 27. |
| 01:31:40.20 | Unknown | 27, 9 minutes, 44 seconds, and then 10 minutes, was it 24 seconds? 12 seconds. 12 seconds for 2015. |
| 01:31:45.06 | Chris Tubbs | 12 seconds. |
| 01:31:52.18 | Unknown | I... Recall that my next question has to do, and I think these are high response time rates. That's my personal opinion, and I'm concerned about that. But I have a question about your comment about travel time. The travel time... I understand you have no control over, I guess, potholes or backups and traffic or something like this. But I know that before annexation, we had two fire engines at the Johnson station. And last year we had a presentation and we were told there was only one fire engine at the Johnson Station. And I remember thinking at the time, that sounded problematic to me in terms of potential response time because we were told during annexation that if there was an emergency both a fire engine had to go and an ambulance. It couldn't be just an ambulance. And so that is where my concern came with the impact of losing one fire engine on response times. And so When you're looking at the travel time, Are there scenarios where fire engines are coming from Tam Valley or from other locations to get to Sausalito for an emergency? |
| 01:33:28.67 | Adam Politzer | Chief Tubbs, can I just point a clarification just to make sure the record is correct? Sausalito's staffing level was 15 firefighters, five a shift, three on a truck, two on an ambulance. So we never had two trucks leaving, and we never had firefighters that could take a second truck out during any of the discussions in the last, you know, 10, 15 years on fire service. Just want to be clear that anytime a second truck came, it always came from Southern Marin, the county of Marin, or the city of Mildow. Yeah. |
| 01:34:09.27 | Unknown | So Adam, just to follow it, we had two fire engines at the Johnson Station, and we could never use two at the same time? Oh, OK. Oh, that's interesting. |
| 01:34:19.13 | Adam Politzer | NEVER COULD USE TO IT. We probably had three. We had a ladder truck, we had a rescue truck, and then probably a backup. |
| 01:34:28.09 | Chris Tubbs | The second fire engine would have been what was called a reserve vehicle, meaning that if the first fire engine was in for repairs, clearly we need to have a replacement, and so that would have been the purpose of the second engine. Oh. |
| 01:34:29.24 | Adam Politzer | Okay. |
| 01:34:39.40 | Unknown | Oh, okay. So now if that fire engine is in repair, then you go to another station? Or how does that work? Or do you just cycle it out and you bring another engine in? |
| 01:34:52.52 | Chris Tubbs | Yes, so clearly part of the district's responsibility in managing those resources is being efficient as we can. We don't need to have a reserve fire engine in every fire station. We have two reserves in the department. We also have others at our disposal with some of the neighboring agencies. And so as the city manager noted, there's been no change in staffing levels since the annexation. We continue to staff station one with five people, three on an engine, two on the ambulance. I would also call to your attention that approximately 70% to 75% of our calls are medical. So really the busiest unit we have is our paramedic unit out of station one but clearly as as a single entity now we have a lot more ability to flex and move our resources around because we're no longer one station were multiple stations and when we respond to structure fires anywhere within the district including the city of Sausalito it's not a single engine response takes on average 12 to 20 people to fight a residential structure fire So regardless of where they're located, those resources are still needed. So today, they would come from Station 1 and Station 4 in Tam Valley, Station 9 on the Hill, and most likely Station 6 and 7 from Mill Valley. And we have very strong automatic aid agreements. And what that means is that when the call comes into the dispatch center, We already have pre-programmed into that how many vehicles we know and staffing we know we need, and the CAD system automatically dispatches that. So for a residential house fire, be three engines, a truck, and an ambulance and a battalion chief. and the closest units respond regardless of jurisdiction. |
| 01:36:38.75 | Unknown | So I guess one of the questions then I would have would be, what is your explanation? These response times seem a little bit long to me. And are there any insights you can give us as to why we're looking at 10 minutes, 9 minutes? |
| 01:37:03.20 | Chris Tubbs | Well, as I said, at this time, no. Until we get further into the data, I don't know that I would draw the conclusion that they are long response times. Again, they are dependent upon decisions that are made at a policy level with regards to how many fire stations do we have, where do we locate those fire stations, and how do we staff them, and again, other decisions relative to our infrastructure as a city, and then ultimately, where is the incident in regards to where the fire station is located? Clearly, if we have, A medical call right across the street from Station 1, we've got the best kind of response time that you can have. If it's at the opposite end of the district, then we have a longer response time. But until we actually get into the data and begin to extract what is really the important response times, meaning the critical incidents, pulling out the anomalies, because there's always anomalies, trying to understand what has driven some of those response times, it'd be very difficult for me to speculate tonight. |
| 01:38:02.15 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:38:02.88 | Chris Tubbs | You're welcome. |
| 01:38:03.30 | Herb | Thank you. I have a question. Chief, when you, YOU MENTIONED THAT 75% OF THE CALLS, I UNDERSTAND THAT, ARE MEDICAL CALLS. WHEN YOU SAY SAUSALIDO, ARE YOU are you talking about the city limits at the south end of town? Or does that extend into the Golden Gate or the GGNRA? Because that would definitely add to the time NEVER MIND THE TIME YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH TOWN. in the... During busy times. |
| 01:38:41.03 | Chris Tubbs | Thank you. |
| 01:38:41.16 | Herb | Thank you. |
| 01:38:41.18 | Chris Tubbs | Correct. I know exactly where you're going with that. So as the council knows, part of our response area includes the GGNRA, which we provide service through contract. This is part of what we want to be able to look at with the data is I'm assuming, because station one is our primary response to the GGNRA, that some of those response times are inclusive of calls in that area. So again, until we have the opportunity to sort of pull that out, it would be very difficult to give it But that would stretch the time. Yes, it would. |
| 01:39:07.90 | Unknown | Yeah. Follow up question on that, yeah, that would. My question was specifically only for the city of Sausalito. So if these times, because I know when you get into the GGNRA, I remember that you were applying rural turnaround times, which could be much longer. So my question was that I sent via email was around the city of Sausalito. So, sorry, I thought these reflected the city. |
| 01:39:33.12 | Chris Tubbs | Sorry. Yeah, the best numbers we could get out of the preliminary draft of the report was by what we call zone or by station's area of response. So, again, Station 1, while it certainly serves the city of Sausalito as its primary district, it also serves the GGNRA as its primary district. |
| 01:39:55.08 | Unknown | Okay, so that's not, it's not broken out. Okay. All right. And when might you have that data that so we know what, you know, specifically the city of Sausalito, what those response times are? |
| 01:40:11.07 | Chris Tubbs | I believe we should have the final report to the board probably by the July board meeting and if not July, by August. We're currently working with the consultant to finalize the report, and that includes ensuring that some of the maps that we've requested that show that pinpoint incidents and vital data that we've been trying to get out of this report are all finalized. So it's a little bit dependent on the consultants. |
| 01:40:38.94 | Tom Perrazzo | Bye. |
| 01:40:38.97 | Unknown | OK, thank you. |
| 01:40:40.67 | Tom Perrazzo | I'd just like to throw in two cents. The board of directors who meet monthly get an ops report and the response times are listed by area. And we question the response times by reviewing those reports. So, I mean, we've been looking at that. And then we go back to our officers and the chief to get further explanations. And, again, what we're doing to look at. the manning of stations and equipment that he's talked about in our studies will certainly be addressing some of those response times. But that 10-minute figure, what we see is a partial figure of the three figures, and we're looking at five to six minutes and concerned that that's a long period of time. But we also know that we're meeting National Fire Protection Association standards in our response times. So we're meeting the national standards. It may appear to be long, and we were certainly trying to find tune our response so that we are doing better than national standards. |
| 01:41:42.40 | Unknown | Just to follow up, the national standard for GDNRA rule is like 15 minutes. That's my understanding. But that's not the national standard being applied to the city of Sausalito in terms of response time standard. Just wanted to clarify that. |
| 01:42:00.85 | Unknown | Thanks. And the last speaker there was Tom Perrazzo, Sausalito resident and member of the board. LAFCOPE. Yeah. Okay, so Chief, I have a question. And this may not be one that you can answer today, but certainly one that we're interested, I think, in Sausalito. For background, Sausalito, for people that don't know the background for the fire department, Sausalito had its own standalone fire district or fire department that served only Sausalito. So then in 2012, there was a process by which we were annexed by vote of the city, annexed into the Southern Marin Fire District. So, you know, the residents of Sausalito are very concerned about whether or not there's been... a lessening in service to Sausalia residents from our own fire department as a result of that. So that's, I think, the major concern that we would have with the metrics that you're gathering right now. And the next time you come back, you know, good news and bad news. We just want to know, you know, how it's going with the annexation and sort of how to craft the way forward. So thank you so much for your. Mayor Huffington. |
| 01:43:05.23 | Adam Politzer | Thank you so much. I'm sorry, Mayor Hoffman, just again, another point of clarification. The city of Sausalito was in contract for service for probably six years prior to annexation. So Southern Marin Fire actually ran our fire department for six years prior to annexation. So the annexation and the vote of the people, that wasn't the change of we're in local control and we have a chief and we have battalion chiefs that are hired and managed by the city of Sausalito. We had a contract for service with Southern Marin Fire. |
| 01:43:16.11 | Chris Tubbs | So, |
| 01:43:16.33 | Unknown | to the news. |
| 01:43:16.38 | Chris Tubbs | Thank you. |
| 01:43:36.53 | Adam Politzer | That arrangement happened 10, you know, 10 years that we have a follow-up. So I have a follow-up. |
| 01:43:44.80 | Unknown | So I have a follow-up. Yeah. And I have a follow-up clarification, too. I didn't mean to over- |
| 01:43:50.03 | Unknown | I didn't mean to open up like a |
| 01:43:52.05 | Unknown | Well, that's- |
| 01:43:52.22 | Unknown | No, absolutely, I know you are. |
| 01:43:53.96 | Unknown | While that is true, it's also true that with annexation, prior to annexation, you did have oversight with city management, and you had the council oversight as well. You had a resident. I mean, it was a different structure. That's what annexation is about. It's moving to a district. Well, yes, it is. I was at the LAFCO hearings. |
| 01:44:16.69 | Unknown | It was a lot of things. |
| 01:44:17.03 | Unknown | What you're talking about, Adam, is a contract that the city had for management of the fire services while they were in Sausalito. |
| 01:44:26.26 | Unknown | And, |
| 01:44:26.31 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:44:26.41 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:44:26.43 | Unknown | . |
| 01:44:27.19 | Unknown | Yes, and so then we'll discuss this perhaps at a... future meeting. Mr. Perrazzo you're approaching the podium I think you have something important to say |
| 01:44:37.85 | Tom Perrazzo | Well, I just wanted to point out that After an accusation there were three residents of Sausalito that were appointed or elected to the board. NOW WE HAVE ONLY TWO but we're still being heard. as representatives of Sausalito. and the management of Southern Marine Fire Protection District. So we haven't lost control as was the concern before annexation, AND CERTAINLY THERE WILL BE A |
| 01:45:02.52 | Chris Tubbs | And so, |
| 01:45:04.43 | Tom Perrazzo | times coming in the next few years. when we will have open positions AND WE CAN GET HOPEFULLY RESIDENTS TO run for office and be elected and then continue to have a a good number of South Sea to residents on the border |
| 01:45:20.97 | Unknown | Great. Thanks for pointing that out. Just a comment on the control aspect. For me, it's all about service. It's the quality of service. It's response rates. It's the quality of service that we get and our ability as residents of Sausalito to impact that quality of service if we're not happy. And that's certainly when you have local control, that's easy to do. So I'm very happy that we're getting this information tonight. I'm happy we're getting this presentation. I was very keen to hear that data on the response times. I'll hold back for my comments during the comment period. Well, thanks. |
| 01:45:59.71 | Unknown | or could I add? |
| 01:45:59.73 | Chris Tubbs | Yeah. |
| 01:45:59.75 | Unknown | . |
| 01:45:59.80 | Chris Tubbs | I have just one final thing perhaps for the council. Just to put maybe the council at ease, I certainly appreciate concerns about level of service. Just by way of background, I worked for a municipal fire department for 37 years, so I'm very familiar with that model and very familiar with the fire service and a lot of the analytics that go on to determining levels of service, quality of service, governance, all of those kinds of things. And one of the things that I was impressed about when I came here, and it's one of the reasons that I came, was that this area was interested in regionalization, and that's something that is beginning to really take root in the fire service, including up in the Pacific Northwest. And the reasons will bear out in the data, and I'm confident that when I return, you will see that, that this is a benefit to the taxpayers not only from the standpoint of cost efficiencies, but from the standpoint of our service levels and the quality of care that we provide to our community. So I look forward to returning to you with that information. But, again, just to put the council at ease, if I had any concerns about the quality of service or level of service, I would be back here reporting that to you. |
| 01:47:00.78 | Unknown | Thank you. Any other questions for Chief Tubbs? No? Okay. Any public comment on this item? No? See no one? Council discussion. Anybody have any discussion or should we... Thank you. |
| 01:47:15.58 | Unknown | I'm sorry. Well, I want to thank the chief for the presentation and really appreciate also the data per my request on the response times. I would, I'm surprised that we don't know what the response times are for the city of Sausalito. That is something that I always had when we had a fire department. I think that's something that, you know, I mean, that's a key measure for fire services, is if someone has a heart attack and you need to get there fast, how fast does it take? And how does that benchmark against others? Cities. you know, I'm, I look at nine minutes, ten minutes, to me that's long because I But at the same time, if this includes the GGNRA, then I can understand why it might be longer than it actually is. So I'm going to withhold judgment and wait for that data to come back to us. But I have to say I'm really concerned that we don't have that data. That's data we should have. |
| 01:48:42.71 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:48:42.73 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:48:42.79 | Unknown | . |
| 01:48:43.23 | Herb | Yeah, well, first of all, you were against the annexation anyway. Um... Also, keep in mind when we started a few years ago, let's go back five, six years ago, the amount of bicycles coming into this town are nowhere near the amount of bicycles. And if you really look at that number, 75% of medical, I guarantee you, because I'm downtown every day, and I hear them going through, you know where they're going. They're going up above, either whether it's Alexander or down to Fort Baker, and that's definitely, adds to your time. on response because they're bicycles and they're coming in and they've been increasing I'd say right now they're maybe leveling off a little, but they've been increasing definitely five-fold in the last five years. And those numbers will reflect on that too, on your time. |
| 01:49:43.59 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:49:46.11 | Tom | Well, I just want to thank Chief Tubbs for coming, and it's good to have you here at all times, as well as Mr. Perrazzo and the representations of the board. On levels of service, the thing I'm interested in, I'm not so interested in going back five or ten years. I'm looking at what the standards are today and how we're improving on that and how we're going forward and where we should be going. We're looking at the future. I assume that the goal is always to be improving on those. So I'd like to see where they're at, what standards you may use, and how we measure against that when we come back. And I look forward to your presentation on that. |
| 01:50:24.09 | Unknown | Thanks, Tom. |
| 01:50:26.24 | Unknown | Thank you, Chief. Thank you, Tom, for coming this evening. I am I wanted to actually make a comment about your strategic plan, which I thought was an extremely interesting and robust document, and it clearly represented an enormous amount of work that all the stakeholders, your department, the board, and everybody involved has clearly put a huge effort into this, And it shows. It's a very robust document. So I have every confidence that Southern Marin is continually looking to optimize everything about itself. It's part of what is in your vision and your goals and so on. So I'm very confident in that and look forward to, when you do have the data scrubbed and understood, be very interesting to see that. Beware of single numbers. Numbers are always the result of distributions. But you've got smart people working on that, I have no doubt. Thank you very much. |
| 01:51:48.16 | Unknown | Thanks, Chief, for coming and giving us this report and also sharing your strategic plan with us. I, too, thought it was really interesting. And thank you for providing that. Thanks to Tom Perrazzo and our other Sausalito board member, Stephen Willis. It takes a tremendous amount of time. Again, I like getting free stuff from members of our community. And, again, you know, this is no small matter being on these boards. I think it's really important, as I said earlier, to be able to make the analysis of how this annexation is working and if there's been any difference in service or appreciable difference in service, good, bad, whatever. I think we need to have that information to sort of assess how it's going. Because there was a lot of opposition to this within our community. If it's going great, then I think we need to know that. And if we have some troubling areas, then I think we're certainly We certainly need to know that as well. So thank you so much for coming. And that would be my only... request for the next time that you come, that we have an analysis for before annexation through up to the present, because I think, you know, it's, let's see how it's going. |
| 01:52:53.59 | Unknown | And thank you, Madam Mayor. And I want to respond to the councilman who said, well, you were against annexation from the beginning. You know, I was against annexation because of the concern about an impact to service and the local control that comes with taking care of service issues. And response time is a key metric. It's not just a number. Response times for emergencies, that is a key metric for which we assess the value and the efficiencies of our fire services. So this is a valid question. I'm glad I asked it. I'm glad I sent the email before the session. It's a key reason I've been asking for this presentation. The strategic was very interesting and thank you very much but I'm very keen to find out these response times and by the way I asked the question about the response times because I was receiving stories from residents who were witnessing bicycle accidents and in some cases they were ones calling 911, and they would look at the time it took. In one case, it took 15 minutes. I heard a couple other comments like that, and I just wanted to start, you know, I wanted to get this presentation, I wanted this data. So irrespective of whether or not we have an increase in bicycle numbers, I mean, that's what local control allows, is that we hear that we need... |
| 01:53:05.54 | Chris Tubbs | Thank you. |
| 01:53:05.55 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:53:05.57 | Chris Tubbs | Thank you. |
| 01:53:05.60 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:54:25.74 | Unknown | more services and more attention and we respond to that. So anyway, I'm shocked we don't have those numbers. I'm really looking forward to getting those. |
| 01:54:30.70 | Unknown | I'm sure. I'm really... I'm really looking forward to getting those. something that you wanted to respond to? Yeah. |
| 01:54:37.30 | Herb | Yeah, if you really look at the amount of accidents that were reported, at the south end of town, where all the bikes come through, just about. five to six accidents reported a year. That's less than 1%. It's almost like less than a half a percent. |
| 01:54:58.41 | Unknown | No, I need to respond to that. Okay. There are the stats from the police, and then the stats from the police department, and then the stats from the fire department. And I... |
| 01:55:05.26 | Chris Tubbs | Please? |
| 01:55:15.98 | Unknown | I'm not going to let this devolve into a back and forth and back and forth, which is exactly where it's going. But there are a lot of accidents that happen. |
| 01:55:25.80 | Herb | a lot. And that's not true. All right? |
| 01:55:26.27 | Unknown | A lot. I'm not sure. Herb, I live on the main corridor. |
| 01:55:32.08 | Herb | Bye. |
| 01:55:32.10 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:55:32.16 | Herb | Bye. |
| 01:55:32.21 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 01:55:32.48 | Unknown | I'm on South Street. Excuse me. Now we have Ashley. I got my 30 seconds. Wait a minute. That's right. Excuse me. I didn't get a call. |
| 01:55:33.07 | Herb | OK. |
| 01:55:34.49 | Unknown | . |
| 01:55:34.52 | Herb | We have actually, we have actually, Thank you. Excuse me, I didn't get it all. |
| 01:55:38.86 | Unknown | You got it. Go ahead. |
| 01:55:39.17 | Herb | You know, I'm downtown every day. Those fire engines and ambulance have to go by Bridgeway to get up there. And I'm telling you, that's about it. Two or three, okay, and they're all going not in Sausalito, but outside of Sausalito, out on Alexander. So don't make something that's very small, blown out of proportion like you always do, like saying, I get all these people. Give me the names of the people that are complaining. Okay. |
| 01:55:58.67 | Unknown | OKAY. |
| 01:55:58.98 | Chris Tubbs | Out of analogy. |
| 01:56:09.32 | Unknown | Oh, no. Okay, thank you for this robust discussion on this very important issue before our city. Perhaps at some point we would have some numbers of the responses to bicycle accidents in your jurisdiction. That would be very interesting for a future agenda item, and thank you to our council members who brought this issue up. Moving on, I believe that we're finished with this subject. Thank you so much, Chief, for coming. You're always welcome here in Sausalito, where all things are possible. |
| 01:56:38.75 | Herb | WORK. is your ear. |
| 01:56:40.69 | Unknown | Um, Moving on to item 6D. |
| 01:56:50.35 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you, Madam Mayor. Your Public Works Director and City Engineer, Jonathan Goldman. I'm rebooting the presentation computer, but this item is actually pretty straightforward and the presentation that I prepared is weak and graphically completely uninteresting and consists entirely of the staff report. So while this is rebooting, I can bring that up. The short version of the of this item is that as Council is aware, |
| 01:57:30.74 | Jonathon Goldman | That's going to take me a minute. |
| 01:57:31.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:57:32.24 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 01:57:32.60 | Unknown | you |
| 01:57:32.65 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:57:33.85 | Jonathon Goldman | I doubt it. This is short, short cut. Thank you. Sorry. |
| 01:57:41.32 | Jonathon Goldman | As council and the community are aware, the city has been embarked on a significant capital improvement program for our wastewater enterprise for sometime and one of the highest priority of those projects and has been for for many years actually Is a project that we refer to as the gate 5 road project um It has gone through several iterations of design for a number of reasons. One of which is that... the Marin ship, uh, uh, area of the city was constructed, um, in a hurry during World War II, um, with the primary objective of constructing ships as fast as possible, uh, for just long enough, um, to win the war, uh, which in many respects was a very successful operation. Uh, however, a lot of the infrastructure that was, uh, constructed there, um, uh, well, most of the infrastructure, all the infrastructure that was built there was built on by filling over a sediment layer called the bay mud, which is a layer that does not uh It's not particularly structurally stable. So what happens as structures that aren't designed to last a long time, aren't designed with pilings or other ways of supporting the structures over a long period of time, is that as weight is added to the land surface, the bay mud underneath squeezes out from underneath it. And so based on work that was done several years ago, there are areas of the Marin ship that between 1968 and 2004, 2007, have settled more than four feet. the sewer infrastructure that's installed in the Marin Ship in some areas has settled and in other areas hasn't. So in the interest of trying to maximize the benefit of our relatively scarce resources in capital improvements with respect to sewers, we looked very carefully at trying to design something that 50 years from now would still be as good as we could possibly manage it and account at the same time for the fact that some of our sewer customers don't have facilities that are doing the same thing. So we've gone through several design iterations with this project, including the possibility of vacuum sewers and low-pressure sewers, which would require that all the wastewater that our customers generate is pumped into the main system and then pumped with our Gate 5 Road pump station to get to treatment at Fort Baker. With this particular iteration, recognizing based on past design iterations, that both vacuum and low-pressure sewers, or a vacuum or a low-pressure sewer project, would have cost significantly more than the resources that are available to the city. We went back to a conventional gravity system intended to replace the leaking infrastructure that's there. |
| 02:00:05.64 | Chris Tubbs | Yes. |
| 02:01:18.71 | Jonathon Goldman | but do so as inexpensively as we could manage. Unfortunately, because of other circumstances in the marineship, specifically tidally influenced groundwater, and therefore the need on the contractors, from a contractor's perspective, to be able to open a trench section and lay pipe and then backfill the trench section requires expensive shoring and dewatering. In other words, when the tide is in, the trench wants to be full of seawater, and it's not possible to have people work in a short excavation full of seawater, so the water has to be removed. And because of the conditions in that environment, and if the staff report indicates that we did some testing of both soil and groundwater samples in the course of preparing the design, the water that would be pumped out of that trench during construction has to be treated before it can be discharged, and it can't be discharged directly to the bay in those circumstances, it needs to be further treated. So the cost of this project, we recognize, would be fairly significant. long story short, forgive me, I'm still on the first slide even, but as I said, they're boring. We reached a point with the design and a constructability review where, in my judgment, it was time for us to find out what the marketplace is. the information that we really need from the marketplace about instead of relying on engineers for estimating the cost of a project, the public bidding process gives us that information. |
| 02:03:16.43 | Unknown | THE FAMILY IS |
| 02:03:17.14 | Jonathon Goldman | We issued invitations to bid. um, And, uh, held a pre-bid conference and received and opened one bid when the bell rang for that process. That one bid is approximately or near the engineer's estimate for the project, but in looking at the details associated with the bid, The unit cost for the most significant element of this project is on the order of 1,300 linear feet of 8 inch diameter PVC sewer pipe. Um, And the unit cost that the bidder proposed to furnish, setting aside the cost of dewatering and shoring, which were separate bid items, the unit cost that the bidder proposed to furnish and install that pipe for the city was more than $1,200 a linear foot, which is at least twice what any other bid that we've received or that I'm aware of in Marin County in the last couple of years has been. |
| 02:04:25.61 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:04:25.97 | Chris Tubbs | Thank you. |
| 02:04:28.53 | Jonathon Goldman | And while we structured the project in a way so that We had an ad alternate so that if we wanted to construct a limited project and try and minimize or make the best use of the city's resources in delivering the project, the fact is that at $1.7 million just for that 1,300 linear feet of pipe, I can't in good conscience recommend that the city award that contract. uh, As an example, if we, and I in the staff report listed several other examples of recent projects, they're not directly comparable. But if, for example, we had received a bid at $600 a linear foot for that piece of work, we would have $800 more thousand dollars of sewer capital funds available to do work that may not be as high a priority as this particular project, but is certainly very important, and work that, again, I think it would be prudent, and I think that under the circumstances, in my judgment, the bid price for that item by itself is excessive, and from my perspective, that's good and sufficient cause for staff to ask the council to reject that bid. Understanding that in doing so, the city staff still has the obligation to deliver that project. We also have a number of other projects that are important, as well as the need to have capital funding available for unforeseen circumstances. And one example that I mentioned in the staff report is when we adopted the current sewer rates and identified the priority sewer projects that we knew needed to be done, the Glen Court project, which was recently completed, was not on that list. But it was a situation where, We determined that wastewater was leaving the pipe and |
| 02:06:40.55 | Leon Hunting | Uh. |
| 02:06:41.10 | Jonathon Goldman | appearing at the land surface in a situation where people could be exposed to it and things like that, an unsanitary condition. And so we need to have capital reserves available to do that kind of thing when the situation arises. So again, the recommendation this evening is that council reject the bid received for the gate five sewer replacement project, understanding that staff will work with the design and construction management team to determine whether rebidding the project as designed at a future date when when more contractors are available and prepared to submit bids, and therefore we get the benefit of competition that we didn't have here, or if it makes sense to implement the project in phases or something like that. So I'll end the staff report with that and welcome questions. |
| 02:07:40.13 | Unknown | Thanks, Jonathan. Questions? Yes, thank you. So thank you, Jonathan, for that presentation and the work you've been doing on the sewers and the bids. My question is, I remember when we talked about this particular... Gate 5 project before, one of the questions I asked you was because in the Marin ship section of Sausalito, there are you've got a lot of private ownership of a lot of the infrastructure. And one of the questions I had was, will this project involve any upgrades for the private owners as well. And I'm just wondering if it does, is it something that they would |
| 02:08:25.04 | Unknown | and he was. |
| 02:08:32.14 | Unknown | they would balance the costs of this. |
| 02:08:37.10 | Jonathon Goldman | I remember the question, as was the case with the urgent sewer project that Team Gelati is in the process of completing in Hurricane Gulch in the next couple of weeks. Where is that? |
| 02:08:52.48 | Unknown | Where is that? I'm sorry, the Hurricane Gulch. Where is that? Old Town. No, no, no. I live in Hurricane Gulch. I meant what street? I'm sorry. |
| 02:08:56.17 | Jonathon Goldman | Old Town, Fort Worth. |
| 02:09:01.84 | Jonathon Goldman | The fourth and main. Okay, thanks. |
| 02:09:03.73 | Unknown | Oh, okay. |
| 02:09:05.64 | Jonathon Goldman | They're also working on Miller. |
| 02:09:07.41 | Unknown | Oh, Miller Oak? |
| 02:09:07.60 | Jonathon Goldman | Oh, no. There are private lower laterals that have been replaced as part of that project. Oh. |
| 02:09:13.79 | Unknown | Oh. Oh, I didn't know that. |
| 02:09:14.72 | Jonathon Goldman | Oh, I didn't know that. Well, as you may recall from when we discussed... the capital program, both with the current rate study as well as capital program from a budget perspective, The city is allowed to accept responsibility for repairing or replacing lower laterals at the time that mainline work is done. And the responsibility under the code for maintaining those laterals after the mainline work is done reverts to the property owners. In the case of the Gate 5 project though, and I'll be happy to provide the bid form itself if you would like, the bid tabulation is available on the website, but that 1300 linear feet of 8 inch main line, which is again, $1.7 million of the bid, does not involve any private facilities. It's all available. |
| 02:10:15.38 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 02:10:15.91 | Jonathon Goldman | replacement of public sewer mains and and doesn't also include manholes or other elements of |
| 02:10:19.99 | Unknown | man. |
| 02:10:22.27 | Jonathon Goldman | public infrastructure that are the city's responsibility there. |
| 02:10:22.32 | Unknown | Thank you. So I just have a follow-up quick question just because you brought it up. The Hurricane Gulch work, you said Miller 3rd and 4th Street, the city is replacing private laterals. I'm just curious, how many private laterals have we replaced? |
| 02:10:42.40 | Jonathon Goldman | I don't recall. |
| 02:10:43.90 | Unknown | Okay, I can follow up, thanks. |
| 02:10:47.58 | Unknown | Thank you, Jonathan, for that update on this bit. Could you remind us all how this Gate 5 project fits into the whole scheme of things with regards to water infiltration, pressure on the system, leading to ultimate pressure at the wastewater treatment plant. So could you sort of put into perspective this project for us? |
| 02:11:20.03 | Jonathon Goldman | Sure, I'll try. The EPA administrative order that we've been operating under for some time orders that the city take significant efforts to reduce both overflows, sewage spills within our system, as well as what's referred to as bypassing or permit violations or near violations with respect to the treatment plant. And the bypassing as part of the treatment plant operations occurs when the flows coming in exceed the treatment capacity of the plant. So the plant then has to split the treatment streams and treat whatever the hydraulic capacity of the plant is capable of and then provide a lower level of treatment for the bypass stream and then discharge to the bay. so reducing the peak flows the wet weather flows the peak flows that get to the plant is not only the Sausalito Marin City Sanitary District's responsibility, but under their permit, they're required to make sure that their contributory customers, in our case, the city of Sausalito All the ratepayers in the city of Sausalito pay both city of Sausalito wastewater rates as well as Sausalito Marin City Sanitary District treatment rates. So reducing the peak flows associated with wet weather, which really represent water that isn't sanitary wastewater, it's not sewage, it's water that gets into the sewer system from any one or more of a number of different paths, is part of our mandate. And based on flow monitoring that was done shortly after the order was issued, the Gate 5 road area is the most significant, if you look at ratio of wet weather to dry weather flows, which is an indication of how much inflow and infiltration is occurring, it is the most significant source of that issue. It's compounded at gate five, not just simply hydraulically, but by the fact that it's cold and seawater. And the treatment processes that are employed at the treatment plant are biological processes. And if you think about it, oh, Dr. Withy, you probably have thought about this, sorry. Biological organisms don't typically like to have radically different environments. And the treatment processes that are optimized to remove pathogens and the other undesirable components of wastewater before it's discharged to the bay don't take well to having cold, salty water periodically fed to them. And so the efficiency, the treatment capacity, or there's probably another unit measure, the treatment efficiency associated with the plant is kind of doubly compromised by having salt water be the inflow and infiltration source. Okay. Thank you. |
| 02:14:53.08 | Unknown | And to follow up, is there Off the top of your head, any... I'm not sure. significant design changes that can be made to bring the cost down realistically? Or is this an issue where we just need to bide our time and re-bid. And then what's the likelihood of that producing a different result? |
| 02:15:20.10 | Jonathon Goldman | I think that, first of all, that that it is important for us to take a moment, if you will, and evaluate the design to see if, and this actually really is a constructability issue, if you think about it. At one point, the plans for this project required that all of the mainline pipe be fused rather than bell and spigot. And in order to fuse, to construct a fused pipeline segment, our standard for distance between manholes is 300 feet to allow the equipment that we use to clean and maintain and inspect to be able to get access without us having to have, you know, thousands of feet of camera cable or rotter, rod or other equipment. So for a contractor to be able to fuse 300 feet of pipe, and install it at low tide, let's say, because that's the best time to do that, requires that they open a 300-foot-long trench, shore it, and make sure that it's free of water, then fuse the pipe and get it into the trench, tie in all the laterals, et cetera, et cetera. So the constructability review that was done at that stage in the project identified that as a likely source of higher cost, higher unit cost. So we issued an addendum while this was out to bid to give the contractor that as an option in case the marketplace said, well, I think I can do that less expensively than conventional bell and spigot, but also give the contractors the ability to only work in much shorter segments of trench, requiring less shoring, less dewatering, and the project might take longer to construct, but at the same time was intended to try to give us a better price. we didn't really get a better price in my judgment. And as I said, you know, asking the community to spend twice as much as the going price is, you know, I seriously considered biting the bullet and asking council to award the contract. But the fact that no other contractor bid tells me that the market is saturated with work right now. The contractors, Team Gelati, for example, Majoran Gelati, who regularly bid on our work and do very good work for the city, didn't bid. And so the subcontractors who would be involved with almost any of these contractors know that no one else is bidding. And so I think we have the opportunity to, again, take that step back, perform some additional constructability analysis and see if we can reduce the contractors risk further which is really where cost comes from. And then secondly, even if we wait two or three or four months and rebid the same project and are able to get more competition, I suspect that we'll be able to get better prices. |
| 02:18:45.62 | Unknown | Okay, I'm thinking there's no further questions from the council. Do we have public comment on this item? see no one approaching. Moving on, council discussion. we have any council discussion other than a motion you Anybody want to make? Do we need a motion for this? Yeah? Anybody want to make a motion to reject the bid receiver? Should I? |
| 02:19:09.06 | Tom | I'll move that. Council rejects the bid received for the gate five sewer replacement project. |
| 02:19:10.20 | Unknown | that. |
| 02:19:16.31 | Herb | I'll second it. |
| 02:19:17.61 | Unknown | All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? |
| 02:19:18.47 | Herb | Bye. |
| 02:19:18.49 | Tom | Hi. |
| 02:19:18.89 | Herb | Thank you. |
| 02:19:18.93 | Tom | you |
| 02:19:19.01 | Herb | Thank you. |
| 02:19:21.20 | Unknown | Okay, motion passes. All right, moving on. Thank you. Very good. Thank you, Jonathan. But I see you might as well not leave the podium. You're up next for item 6E, adopting a complete streets policy. And I believe there was an amendment to the staff report. |
| 02:19:24.95 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:19:42.15 | Jonathon Goldman | Yes, happy to try and offer a little bit of chronology here. This was an item that was on consent on a previous agenda. There were some questions asked and the request that it be heard as a business item. Um, And in trying on my part and the city manager's part, trying to understand what some of the issues might be with what I thought would be a non-controversial consent item, I spent some time trying to... to think about alternatives and try and craft alternatives that would potentially address the concerns, not that I'm sure they would, and then try to help the council get to a place where where there was either consensus or, or at least, you know, a clearer path than, uh, what I thought was going on. So late mail was issued based on, um, on some of that work. I have subsequently given it some more thought and have another suggestion that's in the PowerPoint. Um, but the, um, I want at the outset to make it clear that this item doesn't have anything to do with the South Gateway project. This is an item that the In fact, this background slide isn't necessarily relevant. There is a One Bay Area Grant program that's administered by the Metropolitan Transportation Commission. and the Metropolitan Transportation Commission in November issued uh, a letter to our congestion management agency to Transportation Authority of Marin identifying the city of Sausalito as not being in compliance with the complete streets requirements that they have as a condition of providing grants under that program. And that compliance letter identified a number of specifics here. I won't necessarily read them, but you know, this is a direct quote from that letter. Jurisdictions, I'm going to read it, sorry. Jurisdictions have two options for demonstrating compliance. And again, this is with respect to Complete Streets. The background on Complete Streets is an assembly bill that's an amendment to the government code. And MTC says that Thank you. that compliance must be met by the time the County Congestion Management Agency, in this case TAM, submits its OBAG II project recommendations to the Metropolitan Transportation Commission. One, adopt a complete streets resolution incorporating MTC's nine required complete streets elements, and they refer to an attachment A to their letter, and I I provide that subsequently to adopt a significant revision to the circulation element element of a general plan after January 1st 2010 that complies with the California Complete Streets Act of 2008 so on to We're out. We haven't done that. Attachment A identifies these complete streets principles. And I won't necessarily read these either, but this information is available. It's available online and I'm happy to provide it if anyone is interested. kind of a preface, complete streets principles, there's an implementation set, and this is kind of important or relevant to the, to the, Follow up on the late mail item that is later in the presentation um THE Implementation involves the commitment that proposed improvements, proposed transportation improvements, be evaluated for consistency with all local bicycle, pedestrian, transportation, and other plans that affect transportation. the right-of-way. that the transportation system should provide a connected network of facilities accommodating all modes of travel. um, that input shall be solicited from local bicycle and pedestrian advisory committees. that cities and counties establish a means to collect data for the purpose of evaluating our implementation of complete streets policies, including tracking mileage of bike lanes and sidewalks, number of street crossings, or amount of specific signage. And then finally, there's an exceptions policy. Plans or projects that seek an exception from the complete streets approach have to provide written finding, et cetera, et cetera. And the reason these are important is In my judgment, these are complete no-brainers. And they're entirely consistent with our general plan now. So I wanted to point that out. So because the city hasn't completed a major update to our circulation element, and because compliance with the intent of the California Complete Streets Act is a criterion for funding for pedestrian, bicycle, and other transportation grant programs, Staff's recommendation is that either we adopt a complete streets policy, pending amendment of the circulation element, and that that policy expressly confirm the city's intent to comply with the relevant requirements of AB 1358, or that we adopt a resolution expressing the city's commitment that the next substantial revision of the general plan, circulation element, shall incorporate those policies consistent with the California Streets Act. So the late mail that I sent you was just that. And then I'm suggesting some further revisions to tie back to those policies. the attachment A conditions so that we enhance the probability that MTC will be satisfied with our commitment. So if we don't adopt a policy or a resolution committing to incorporate policies and principles consistent with that act, we face a significant potential for loss of eligibility for certain federally funded transportation grant programs. I think when we... When we were last before council on this item, I may have misspoken about the project or projects that would potentially be affected. I was mistaken in listing about a quarter of a million dollar project. harbor to gate six project that's not the project that we submitted uh... grant application and their old bag to four it's actually the gate six road intersection improvements project which is a multi-jurisdictional project and as a half million dollar So that application is in. TAM has asked, required, that as a condition of their accepting it, that this city council deal with this issue this month. I'm grateful that you are and that we're here. And the opportunity to fund that project in the very short future may depend on the actions that council takes on this. If we do adopt a resolution committing to incorporate complete streets policies into the next substantial revision of the general plan, there's still the potential for loss of eligibility for certain programs because MTC's letter wouldn't strictly have been complied with. So what I've done for the Not that it's necessarily easy to follow or understand. But I sent late mail that had the wording changes that are shown in red. from what was originally proposed. And I've added some additional language that I'm offering for council to consider. The original late mail deleted the policy itself, which was referred to as an exhibit and attached, and then deleted additional language that I thought was part of the problem. What I'm suggesting at this point, if council wants to go in that direction, is to take that late mail, but then add another... |
| 02:28:48.80 | Tom Perrazzo | uh, |
| 02:29:05.64 | Jonathon Goldman | clause to the resolution, which I'll be happy to read. Um, So the first element would be that at the next substantial revision of our general plan, we would incorporate complete streets policies and principles consistent with the government code. And then second, that the director of public works and community development director are jointly directed to ensure that the elements of implementation and exception established in attachment A to that, letter. are complied with for each proposed transportation improvement project developed by the city. So I know that's a little bit confusing. And the resolution itself, as originally drafted, and I'll just Step back here. The second whereas lists all of the places in our existing general plan circulation and parking element that were adopted, that in staff's judgment speak to the complete streets issues that both the assembly bill and MTC's guidance were, I think, intended to address. So those don't change. That's just a restatement of how our general plan already deals with these issues. So with that, I'm going to apologize for the confusion and give you an opportunity to ask questions. |
| 02:30:41.15 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you, Madam Mayor. So you started the presentation with saying this has nothing to do with the South Gateway Project. Correct. Okay. But it's my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the South Gateway Project was presented |
| 02:30:50.99 | Unknown | Correct. |
| 02:31:05.21 | Unknown | as something that would be funded by an OPEG OBAD grant which requires a complete streets policy Is that correct? |
| 02:31:16.52 | Jonathon Goldman | The South Gateway Project The development of that plan was funded by OBAG-1 funds. the funding source for further design development and public participation and construction was not the subject of that project. No. |
| 02:31:42.73 | Unknown | but If |
| 02:31:44.35 | Jonathon Goldman | It could potentially be funded by an OBAG, but at the moment, there's only OBAG 2, which we're in the current application window for, and I don't know what the prospects are of an OBAG 3 or when, so forgive me. |
| 02:32:03.01 | Unknown | Okay, but I mean, my point here is that there is a connection because the South Gateway IT WAS POSITIONED AS A MULTIMODAL project. And so seeking grants from that linked with a Complete Streets policy in the future would facilitate the funding. of a South Gateway project. So to me, they're linked. |
| 02:32:36.41 | Jonathon Goldman | I believe you. Okay. My preference, since you asked the question, is to focus on the Gate 6 project. |
| 02:32:37.81 | Unknown | OK. |
| 02:32:45.59 | Unknown | Well, yeah, but I mean... |
| 02:32:46.26 | Jonathon Goldman | that I know. Thank you. is designed. and is about to be permitted for construction by Caltrans and is a regionally significant project that does benefit all of the modes, bicycles, pedestrians, motor vehicles, as well as persons with impaired mobility. And the |
| 02:33:04.52 | Chris Tubbs | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:33:10.75 | Jonathon Goldman | asking the city, for example, to fund a half a million dollar project in that intersection instead of all of the other streets and other priorities that have been identified and are included in our capital program, our capital budget, is obviously a decision that the council can decide to make, But in my judgment, it would be a mistake to foreclose the opportunity to have an OBEG II grant pay for that project. |
| 02:33:38.25 | Chris Tubbs | to have. |
| 02:33:46.03 | Unknown | Any other questions? Yeah. |
| 02:33:47.97 | Tom | Isn't this clear, though, this is about getting a complete streets project. It's not linked to any particular grant. This gives us an ability to go for the OBAG II grants, correct? Correct. So we're not speaking about any of those grants. None of them are before us, and they have nothing. This really is our general policy because we ultimately are going to need a complete streets policy, and we ultimately need this to get any of the OBAG II grants, correct? Yes. But it's not for any particular one. Correct. Okay. |
| 02:34:17.27 | Unknown | Yeah. Okay. Just as a follow-up to that, because I'm looking at a TAM April 2015, you know, agenda, and I'm seeing the South Gateway, and I'm seeing OBEG grants, and you're saying, oh, well, that was OBEG I, and we don't know if there'll be OBEG II, and I understand the desire to delink. the requirement from the funding from the funding, but my concern here is that we're going to... Here's the question. If we go with a complete streets policy, Does that lock us in to projects that, in other words, the grants that would come from that would only fund street enhancement that included some form of multimodal conversion or enhancement or improvement? |
| 02:35:20.62 | Jonathon Goldman | I don't understand your question. If your question is, if we adopt a policy, does that mean that? |
| 02:35:23.64 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 02:35:32.09 | Jonathon Goldman | We can't construct anything other than multimodal projects. know. |
| 02:35:37.39 | Unknown | No. |
| 02:35:37.80 | Jonathon Goldman | Okay. |
| 02:35:38.10 | Unknown | Can I ask a follow-up? No. I think, does it obligate, if we adopt this policy, does it obligate us to build anything? |
| 02:35:38.94 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. Maybe a follow-up. Yeah. |
| 02:35:47.06 | Unknown | in town. |
| 02:35:48.16 | Jonathon Goldman | No. |
| 02:35:49.00 | Unknown | So we can choose not to build let's say for example hypothetically a southern street on the southern end of town, we don't have to apply for that and we don't have to build it. |
| 02:36:01.76 | Unknown | Correct. |
| 02:36:02.35 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:36:02.45 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:36:02.48 | Unknown | Ah, follow-up question. Are there grants out there that fund street improvements that do not come with a multimodal requirement? |
| 02:36:16.84 | Unknown | Not that I'm aware of. Not that you're aware of. Other than the general fund. |
| 02:36:17.74 | Unknown | Not that you're aware of. other than the general fund. So what I'm hearing then is that the grants out there that are available for street enhancement, aside from the general fund, are only funds that basically kind of obligate us to creating multimodal formats in the streets. |
| 02:36:50.59 | Jonathon Goldman | Yeah, I'm going to have to ask you what you mean by multimodal foreign policy. Well, according to... |
| 02:36:55.13 | Unknown | Well, according to your staff report here, multimodal transportation, users of streets like bicycle lanes, et cetera. I guess what I'm trying to understand here is that Sausalito, we have roads that are historic. I mean, some of them date back to the gold rush. For example, South Street in Hurricane Gulch dates back to the gold rush. It's got homes built up to the curve. to take and force that into a multimodal where you have bike lanes on both sides, you're going to have to cut into and widen that street and other streets through that corridor. And I guess what I'm struggling with here is that we get this complete streets and we get all this money and... You know, it just seems like there's a conversation that has to happen with the public about what our vision is and where we don't want to go. Right. |
| 02:37:55.44 | Jonathon Goldman | I understand. |
| 02:37:56.42 | Unknown | before we spend all the staff time getting all of these grants and all this grant money. |
| 02:38:02.04 | Jonathon Goldman | Well, it's not possible for us to apply for a grant without a project. So for example, The gate six intersection project has been through our process has been identified as a priority by the city council and it is clearly in my judgment a multimodal project. The South Gateway Project has not. So we're... we can't apply for a grant just to receive money and then build something that the community doesn't want to build. just not the way the process works. |
| 02:38:45.78 | Unknown | quote. Well, Jonathan, I walked outside my front door, and my entire street had been re-striped and a new bike lane going uphill. And no one in the community in my neighborhood knew anything about it. We had sharrows in the middle of the road. So, I mean, I have seen scenarios where things have changed dramatically for neighbors and residents, and we had absolutely no input, but beside a plan that was... |
| 02:39:08.31 | Unknown | But back to. |
| 02:39:12.77 | Unknown | GRAND. |
| 02:39:14.83 | Unknown | Fair point. But however, tonight what we're talking about is whether or not, you know, how we want to deal with this. Could you go back to... I think it's one slide back, or you gave us the two, or you had the two options available. This is a resolution, but then you had another slide with, Yeah, the alternatives. |
| 02:39:38.16 | Unknown | Okay. So I have a follow-up question about the city policy. We're voting on a policy, but the policy that initially came with this staff report has been redacted now. |
| 02:39:49.69 | Unknown | It has not. |
| 02:39:50.60 | Unknown | I'm sorry, I was looking at this that we just got. That's not redacted. Well, it's all been edited out. Redlined. Redlined out. |
| 02:39:52.76 | Unknown | That we just got? That's not redacted. Bye. |
| 02:39:55.78 | Unknown | It's a little bit. |
| 02:39:56.14 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 02:39:56.18 | Unknown | that. Yeah. So, Yeah. |
| 02:39:59.44 | Jonathon Goldman | So the council... The staff has identified three alternative courses of action, well, four, that the council can take. We proposed on consent a policy that has been adopted by other Marin jurisdictions, Tiburon, Mill Valley, and is... pretty much verbatim, straight out of Metropolitan Transportation Commission's guidance. That was the original staff report. I THINK I'M GOING TO BE Recognizing that there apparently was enough controversy for this item to come off of consent and be heard as a business item, I attempted to remove what I thought might be the objectionable components of that and issued that, asked the clerk to transmit that as late mail yesterday. I then, frankly, spent some more time with MTC's letter, and I'm concerned that if what went out as late mail yesterday were adopted, that it might not pass the test with MTC because it does not address the implementation and exception process that MTC clearly established as a requirement. So what I prepared with the purple, highlighting in the PowerPoint presentation that you just saw was a further revision of what was originally proposed. Council, for example, could decide not to take any action. this evening. And that jeopardizes our ability to get funding under OBEG II. In fact, I think with certainty we will not receive funding under OBEG II if council doesn't Um, this evening. The highest and best option, in my opinion, is to go back to the original proposal, which was adopted by our sister communities in Southern Marin, and very strictly conforms to what MTC suggested as how to comply with their requirements. The other two alternatives are the late mail that you have in front of you where the changes are marked in red compared with the original resolution. And then lastly, what I think is a better modification of that is before you hear with the purple. |
| 02:42:37.81 | Unknown | Thanks. Okay, does anybody have any questions with regard to... I'm not sure what the three different. the questions of Jonathan with regard to the three different sort of options we have And if not, then I think we'll move to public comment and then we'll come back for Council. |
| 02:42:56.33 | Unknown | discussion. |
| 02:42:56.34 | Unknown | discussion. Thank you. |
| 02:42:56.97 | Unknown | Thank you. I just have a clarification. I've got the I think it's the late mail that came in. And this has a resolution with edits. And then it has a complete streets policy of the city of Sausalito that has been all edited out. |
| 02:43:19.19 | Unknown | Correct. |
| 02:43:19.82 | Unknown | OK. One of the options is you're proposing that we pass this resolution. committing to a complete streets policy, but the policy has been removed. |
| 02:43:34.97 | Jonathon Goldman | That's correct. |
| 02:43:36.89 | Unknown | Well, what are we voting on if we don't have a policy? |
| 02:43:37.00 | Jonathon Goldman | Bye. |
| 02:43:37.03 | Tom | John. I'm not sure if you're not sure |
| 02:43:40.10 | Unknown | I- Oh, |
| 02:43:44.18 | Tom | In attachment A1, I mean, this has gotten pretty convoluted here. Is the... The original one is a 6E attachment one, is that correct? |
| 02:43:55.91 | Unknown | Correct. |
| 02:43:56.20 | Tom | And the substantive language in there is that one, that city adopts a complete street policy, which is the standard complete street policy, and that the next revision of our general circulation element shall incorporate this complete street policy, correct? Is that... |
| 02:44:14.96 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 02:44:14.98 | Tom | Yes. OK. And is that the one you recommend? What is the one you out of the three? That is the one I recommend. |
| 02:44:18.20 | Jonathon Goldman | Out of the three. |
| 02:44:19.91 | Tom | Okay. |
| 02:44:21.68 | Unknown | And then... Sorry. And because of that, the policy, so we don't reference Exhibit A anymore, right? |
| 02:44:32.18 | Jonathon Goldman | No, Madam Mayor, the original proposal was that there is an Exhibit A and it's a policy. |
| 02:44:37.39 | Unknown | it's a Yes. And so then the next, so then this revision that we're talking about now that I'm looking at that is late mail, it says, therefore be resolved. I'm on page, I think, three of six, sorry, two of five, whatever, however it's. Anyway, the next revision of the city council, the city of Sausalito general circulation plan element shall incorporate complete trees policies. So that's the resolution. |
| 02:45:06.30 | Jonathon Goldman | That is what I would refer to as the late male resolution, the red strikeout. |
| 02:45:10.65 | Unknown | I got it. Okay. And then was there some... that we have to do. Was there some further resolution after this one that I'm not |
| 02:45:19.59 | Jonathon Goldman | Correct. Okay. The purple strikeout on the PowerPoint adds to the late mail. I'll put it back up. |
| 02:45:20.14 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 02:45:27.76 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 02:45:27.78 | Unknown | OK. |
| 02:45:28.20 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 02:45:28.83 | Unknown | Yeah, I love you. |
| 02:45:29.36 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:45:29.42 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:45:29.57 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:45:29.62 | Unknown | You can put that back up. |
| 02:45:30.16 | Jonathon Goldman | I apologize for the... Thank you. |
| 02:45:32.03 | Unknown | And just to clarify too I'm trying to understand we've got the resolution that refers to the policy and then we need the policy is what I'm clarifying and what I see is the resolution but if we lose amendment exhibit A which is the policy then what are we voting on and what are we agreeing to |
| 02:45:32.08 | Jonathon Goldman | Well, I |
| 02:45:58.54 | Jonathon Goldman | the the refined late male alternative, the purple alternative. |
| 02:46:05.14 | Unknown | the Mm-hmm. |
| 02:46:06.34 | Jonathon Goldman | you does not. include a policy. |
| 02:46:09.27 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:46:09.29 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. It makes two policy statements. One is a commitment to, with the next substantial revision of the city's oscillator general plan circulation element, that the complete streets policies and principles consistent with the California Complete Streets Act will be incorporated. In addition, it directs the Public Works Director and Community Development Director jointly to ensure that the elements of implementation and exception established in the MTC's guidance on compliance are complied with for each proposed transportation improvement project developed by the city. I'll be happy to go back to the slide where those implementation and exception elements are discussed. |
| 02:46:57.72 | Unknown | I am very clear on what is being proposed to us. What I'm asking is the original version had a Complete Streets policy attached to the resolution. The new version has a resolution that refers to the California Complete Streets Act of 2008. correct? And in my packet here, I don't have the California Complete Streets Act of 2008. I see a referral to AB 1358, the Complete Streets Act. It's the act, and I see a referral to it, and I see A and B. I would like to see |
| 02:47:40.00 | Chris Tubbs | Thank you. |
| 02:47:40.03 | Unknown | THE COMPLETE |
| 02:47:52.52 | Unknown | They're |
| 02:47:53.04 | Mary Wagner | the whole thing. Madam Mayor, if I may, if an attempt to assist in what I think is being proposed is the original resolution obviously has the policy attached. The revised resolution, which is being subsequently revisions are being produced for your consideration, does not include the policy. It indicates that the requirements of the Complete Streets Act would be incorporated into the circulation element. So you would take whatever those statutory requirements are and incorporate them when the when the element is updated. And I'm sure that if that's not accurate, Jonathan will correct me. But it's not that the policy doesn't exist. It's that the policies and the implementation measures that we'll put into the general plan will be consistent with the statutory requirements. |
| 02:48:50.65 | Unknown | Madam Mayor, if I could follow up with a question for the City Attorney. Mary, to follow up on that. |
| 02:48:53.50 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 02:48:53.60 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 02:49:00.79 | Unknown | Let's imagine we're not having this discussion tonight. And that we are not trying to pass a resolution confirming that in the future, when we do the general plan, we will do this. Good question. period. Now, question. If in the future we're going to update the general plan, Do we, as a matter of law, have to include A, B, the element, the |
| 02:49:35.71 | Mary Wagner | Yes. |
| 02:49:35.71 | Unknown | provisions of AB 1378 or whatever it is, in order to make our general plan legal. Thank you. |
| 02:49:43.11 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:49:43.18 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:49:45.29 | Unknown | We need to incorporate 18 AB 1358 to get the grant money, correct? I'm sorry. |
| 02:49:56.82 | Jonathon Goldman | I'm sorry, just as a point of verification, and I brought this slide up for expressly this purpose. Dr. Withey's question had to do with whether the law requires that we incorporate these principles into a general plan circulation element update or not, and the answer is yes. It's very clearly stated here that After January 1, 2011, upon any substantive revision of the circulation element, legislative bodies shall modify the circulation element to plan for a balanced multimodal transportation network that meets the needs of all users of streets, roads, and highways for safe and convenient travel in a manner that is suitable to the rural, suburban, or urban context of the general plan. And for purposes of this paragraph, users of streets, roads, and highways means bicyclists, children, persons with disabilities, motorists, movers of commercial goods, pedestrians, users of public transportation, and seniors. So that is the statutory requirement. |
| 02:50:23.58 | Chris Tubbs | And it's, |
| 02:51:03.81 | Unknown | Okay, and just to follow up then. Really, in the first part of what you're asking us to confirm, or whatever the word was, I don't need to go back to it, is you're asking us to say... that when we update the general plan, which is where all the transparency and all the discussion and all the discussion with the community about all the various things that we want. want social leader look in the future. But what you're asking us to do is simply say, When we agree that when we update the general plan, we will incorporate provisions that allow it to be legal. Is that what you're saying? Yes. |
| 02:51:50.05 | Unknown | Yeah, I have a follow-up. Allow it to be legal. All right. |
| 02:51:53.81 | Unknown | Oh, take my word. Okay. That will make it legal. Please don't interrupt me. Make it legal. I'm sorry. I wanted to clarify what I meant for transparency. |
| 02:51:56.75 | Unknown | Please don't interrupt me. Make it legal. Make it legal. Thank you. and see. I know what you meant. So, I'm not. In terms of the mandate incorporate these principles, the complete straight policy principles into the circulation plan. I mean, clearly the state is not mandating that every city in California... convert every single street into a complete multimodal design, correct? |
| 02:52:37.99 | Jonathon Goldman | I think that that is correct. Thank you. I think that it is very clear that the legislature did not mandate that every jurisdiction in the state reconstruct all of its transportation infrastructure for all modes of transportation. |
| 02:52:40.32 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:52:40.40 | Unknown | THANK YOU. |
| 02:52:40.77 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:52:55.73 | Unknown | In other words, okay, so that's number one. Number two, if Tiburon has written their own policy of what complete streets means to them, and you've named a couple other streets that have done the same, it sounds like there is some opportunity for kind of customizing a complete streets policies to the unique kind of needs of that city. Is that a fair statement? |
| 02:53:25.31 | Jonathon Goldman | It's more than opportunity. It's statutory requirement. The legislature is requiring that |
| 02:53:31.74 | Unknown | Yeah. legislature. |
| 02:53:38.99 | Jonathon Goldman | that in the context of our general plan, that we, the local jurisdiction, decide what's suitable. |
| 02:53:48.98 | Unknown | So we decide what makes sense of the complete streets and what does not. And it's my understanding, because I'm looking at it, and you mentioned it earlier, that the city of Tiburon and others have kind of... taken this complete streets policy that we initially had. Was this a template? Is this straight out of AB 1350? 58 this policy or is this something that was you know customized perth city |
| 02:54:22.28 | Jonathon Goldman | Well, the customization would be done by the council. I think it is pretty much straight off the template, but I'm not sure. |
| 02:54:34.28 | Unknown | But at any rate, that's been deleted from our one of the proposals that we had before us tonight. |
| 02:54:39.62 | Jonathon Goldman | That's one of the alternatives is to delete that policy. Yes. |
| 02:54:44.37 | Unknown | And especially if we go with the latest version, which includes for lack of a better identifier of the purple language. |
| 02:54:51.77 | Tom | Jonathan, can you put that up again? Yeah. |
| 02:54:53.08 | Unknown | THEIR OWNERS. |
| 02:54:55.00 | Tom | Yes. Because I do have an issue too with not having |
| 02:54:56.38 | Unknown | You know, I do. |
| 02:55:00.87 | Tom | And then we want. the operative language at the end. THE FEDERAL OF THE FEDERAL OF This is this one. That's OK. Yeah, that's it. |
| 02:55:06.66 | Unknown | those. |
| 02:55:06.96 | Chris Tubbs | This one. |
| 02:55:09.49 | Tom | The first one is the next substantial revision of the Sausalito General Plan shall incorporate complete street policies consistent with AB 1350. They can't argue with that. Now the second part It could be a little problematic because, again, we don't know what attachment A is. But let me see if I understand, and it might work for me if we added some language. You're basically saying that the public works director and the community development director are directed basically by council to implement the rules in attachment A. Essentially, for any project, I believe that for which we get OBAG II funds, correct? Is that the intent of it, or is that any intent? |
| 02:56:02.77 | Jonathon Goldman | Sorry, I'm going back to their letter. |
| 02:56:07.93 | Jonathon Goldman | Attachment A is referenced in their letter. I've included it completely in the PowerPoint. I certainly, if it pleased the council, to narrow the language of that part of the resolution to only OBEG II. I'm sure they'd be perfectly |
| 02:56:29.72 | Tom | If you go back to the purple language, I would propose, it would work for me if we added language at the end by the city, developed by the city with funding granted by OBAG II. |
| 02:56:34.46 | Jonathon Goldman | you. |
| 02:56:42.14 | Tom | And then it doesn't really matter what's in the attachment A, because it would only be operative if we got an OBAG II grant. And of course, if we get an OBAG II grant, we could do that. Otherwise, we're going to have to review that. So the first one, to me, is a no-brainer. The second one is actually a no-brainer as well, if we limit it in that way. And I can't imagine why they would have any objection to that. But... |
| 02:57:06.57 | Jonathon Goldman | I can't either. |
| 02:57:07.57 | Unknown | Any other questions for Jonathan before we move on to public comment? |
| 02:57:13.36 | Unknown | I had a question. Um... It'll come back to me. |
| 02:57:16.92 | Unknown | and a lot of people. Yeah, okay. Do we have any public comment on this? Yes. I see Mr. Sudo back there waving his arm even though did you fill out a speaker card, sir? There you go. Very good. Yeah, well done, sir. Yeah, you can just leave it there. Thank you. |
| 02:57:34.47 | Unknown | Okay, City Council. Polar bears, whales, eelgrass. The daily choices we make about how we travel from one place to another affect the environment. And if we believe the environment and global warming are important issues, we must take personal and public choices that reflect those beliefs. Complete streets calls for a balanced look between pedestrians, bicycle cars, and transit. That's it. That's all it does. Complete streets means when we make street improvements, we need to look at how we can improve all modes of transport, not just how we can drive a car faster and more conveniently from point A to B. Recently at City Council we discussed flashing pedestrian crosswalks Most of the Complete Streets components would be elements like these that promote safe modes of transport and acknowledge that all forms of transport are legitimate and important and should be encouraged. Last weekend I saw much more use by pedestrians and families of bicyclists of the past segment just north of Mali Stones that was recently rehabilitated. This is a link in the North-South Greenway. The vote for complete street stay ensures that another segment of the North-South Greenway in Sausalito is complete and an usable repair which will encourage Sausalito families to bicycle and walk for transportation. Complete Streets is not incompatible with our current general plan, which actually already calls for increased walking, biking, and transit use. Complete Streets merely reminds us to look at these when we plan improvements for what we have already said is a priority. Finally, transit helps make walking and biking a more feasible means to travel longer distances without a car, whether across town, across the bay, or across the county. This reduces our dependence on cars and allows for fewer cars in Sausalito Remember, runoff pollution from our cars leaking fluids pollutes the bay, even when they aren't being used, and this damages the Richardson Bay ecosystem, including the yield grass. And just another point, I'm not sure why we're having so much discussion about the Southern Gateway project. You know, there's several segments, this Southern Gateway project, and the second street segment I, is extremely important, and it's not very controversial. It almost entirely consists of ADA compliance and pedestrian safety improvements. And I'm not sure why anybody would be against either of those elements. It doesn't widen the streets. It just merely reconfigures the sidewalks, removes barriers, and adds crosswalks where we need them, that everybody agrees we need. Thank you. |
| 03:00:11.54 | Unknown | Thank you. Any other public comment? Seeing none, back up to City Council for council discussion. Who would like to kick us off? Councilwoman Fyfrey. Well, sorry, I |
| 03:00:23.03 | Unknown | I just have a question on the purple. It says jointly directed to ensure the elements of implementation and exception established an attachment A to MTC's OBAG 2. Complete Streets Required Elements letter. Where is? Where is that? You know where that is? |
| 03:00:48.46 | Jonathon Goldman | I apologize for not providing. I mean, is it in our packet? |
| 03:00:50.89 | Unknown | I mean, is it in our packet? Because I don't see it in our packet. |
| 03:00:54.94 | Jonathon Goldman | It's not in the package. Here is verbatim attachment to that letter. |
| 03:01:03.11 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:01:03.13 | Leon Hunting | Mm-hmm. |
| 03:01:05.00 | Jonathon Goldman | The implementation section, here is implementation numbers 5, 6, 7, and 8. and exceptions are nine. |
| 03:01:15.14 | Unknown | Wait, what, what, what, Why don't we have this in our packet if it's part of the- |
| 03:01:18.85 | Jonathon Goldman | Because I didn't give it to you. |
| 03:01:21.25 | Unknown | No, I guess he, we did. |
| 03:01:22.97 | Unknown | I'm not sure. |
| 03:01:23.06 | Unknown | I believe that. |
| 03:01:23.97 | Unknown | THE END OF |
| 03:01:24.03 | Unknown | Because it was late meal. |
| 03:01:24.96 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:01:25.59 | Jonathon Goldman | It was later than late mail. Later than late mail. This information is available on MTC's website, which is where I got it after I provided the late mail. And again, please forgive me. I'm trying to get to a place where I think |
| 03:01:25.62 | Unknown | OK. Thank you. LATE. |
| 03:01:27.97 | Unknown | than late mail. OK. |
| 03:01:29.50 | Unknown | THE FAMILY. |
| 03:01:29.79 | Unknown | All right. |
| 03:01:44.07 | Jonathon Goldman | the public is well served by giving us an opportunity to get a half a million dollars to do a significant regionally significant improvement project at Gate 6 Road. And reading MTC's guidance on compliance, what I had proposed as late mail, in my judgment, was inadequate. So I went back, and I believe that if staff is directed to conform to these implementation and exception procedures and policies as part of the resolution, and I agree with Council Member Theodorus's suggestion that that can be limited to projects that are funded by OBEG II, I think our chances are much better of successfully competing for that fund. . |
| 03:02:32.97 | Unknown | Madam Mayor. Just to, I imagine that people who are listening to this are now pretty confused. I just want to make sure that now the sort of light bulb's gone off, that We understand that this attachment A to the MTC letter is a different document than the attachment aid that you originally had in your proposal which would have supplemented the policy, described the policy, right? These are two different things entirely. Okay. To Council Member Pfeiffer's point, is there any harm in putting this MTC appendix... |
| 03:03:05.08 | Chris Tubbs | Yeah. Yeah. |
| 03:03:17.64 | Unknown | into our resolution because you do reference it. And if you're referencing something, then perhaps it should be there. No harm. Does it? OK. Absolutely. But it's a different attachment from the one you redlined away in the earlier. OK. Thank you. |
| 03:03:23.71 | Chris Tubbs | perhaps it's not. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:03:27.22 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:03:27.32 | Unknown | Absolutely. |
| 03:03:27.64 | Unknown | But it's. Thank you. |
| 03:03:33.45 | Unknown | So could I see, I'm looking at five, six, seven, eight, and again, the public doesn't have this and neither do we, but we're seeing it. So could we see points one through four again? Mmm. |
| 03:03:44.81 | Jonathon Goldman | You're welcome to, they're not relevant to the proposed resolution. |
| 03:03:48.10 | Unknown | Ah, okay, well then never mind. It's only the implementation. |
| 03:03:50.32 | Jonathon Goldman | It's only the implementation and exception. portions that I've suggested be incorporated. |
| 03:03:54.04 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 03:03:57.58 | Unknown | So in these four points, I'm seeing input shall be solicited from local bicycle and pedestrian advisory committees or similar advisory group. I don't see a requirement for you know, public hearing and public... See, I know that the tendency is for us to look at the project we want to get done, which is, I mean, Gate 6, yeah. And we heard earlier residents say, well, you know, the 2nd Street project is non-controversial. His opinion, I can't comment on that because I want to hear from the public that hasn't seen it yet. But... in the fact is that we are voting on something that will apply to not only the projects that we we want to see done, like the Gate 6 Road safety improvements, but all projects, including potentially some very controversial ones. And that's why when I look here, I guess I would feel more comfortable if we could include something that mandated that public hearings and public hearings public noticing and these types of things. |
| 03:05:21.13 | Jonathon Goldman | So just as a point of clarification and because you raised the issue I'm compelled to point out. that the South Gateway Project not only was approved by Council for preparation of plans, but has been at our pedestrian and bicycle advisory committee twice. and is scheduled at a date uncertain admittedly, to be heard again by city council at City Council's request. So setting that aside for a moment, the opportunity to apply for OBEG II funds has come and gone. and staff applied for the Gate 6 project which did receive full public hearings and endorsement from Pedestrian and Bicycle Advisory Committee and the Council. So certainly if the proposed resolution is ambiguous in any way with respect to that, there's no harm in making it more specific. I think that what Councilmember Theodorus has proposed addresses that. But if Council would like it to be more specific, that's your purview. |
| 03:06:39.36 | Unknown | Yeah, and Jonathan, as you know, I can't let this go. You said the South Gateway plan was approved by council for plan preparation. The reality is, and Council Member Ford would confirm this with me, as would the video and email exchanges and my concerns about that. When that came before council, we were told this was just a draft. It was a placeholder. We needed to act on this just to kind of get something in. And we were assured that it was certainly not anything that was cast in concrete. And the next thing I know, I've got full schematic drawings and a full plan and all of these traffic studies backing it up. And I was shocked. And I have been fighting it ever since. So yeah, and frankly that's why I have a lot of questions about this because I don't want to see something happened that the community is not really engaged |
| 03:07:37.09 | Unknown | Can I ask? |
| 03:07:37.11 | Tom | Can I make a motion? |
| 03:07:38.88 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:07:38.90 | Unknown | but, |
| 03:07:39.32 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:07:39.33 | Unknown | Well, we do have council discussion. This is council discussion, even though we sort of digressed into questions, didn't we? |
| 03:07:39.94 | Tom | All right. |
| 03:07:46.39 | Unknown | then we. That's okay. I'm not. I had a follow-up question. Okay, so... Does anybody want to make any comments as part of council discussion on this issue? before we have our motion. |
| 03:08:02.60 | Tom | and I think, Thank you. |
| 03:08:04.17 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:08:04.19 | Tom | Yeah. |
| 03:08:04.26 | Unknown | to the next day. |
| 03:08:04.33 | Tom | I move and I'm going to make the motion that's up here that And do we need, are there where I ask clauses that go with this? Or is there another place we can reference this? I mean, because we have the operator, or I guess we just need to resolve. Is that correct? Correct. |
| 03:08:16.71 | Mary Wagner | We have... It's the late mail item that you have on your... |
| 03:08:24.10 | Tom | Dias. |
| 03:08:24.12 | Mary Wagner | dais. |
| 03:08:24.90 | Tom | Okay. |
| 03:08:25.74 | Mary Wagner | with the additional purple revision that's on the screen. with the additional language suggested by Council Member Theodorus. |
| 03:08:33.72 | Tom | Okay, so let me see if I understand that. So I'm moving the resolution, and it's contained in item 6E, late mail one, correct? And with all the operative language, including the language that is up there that, one, the next substantive revision of the City of Sausalito general plan circulation element shall incorporate complete street policies and principles consistent with California Complete Streets Act of 2008, AB 1358. I guess I need to read the... |
| 03:09:05.35 | Mary Wagner | I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN MOVE THAT THE |
| 03:09:10.39 | Tom | And I move that number two in the PowerPoint, which starts off the Director of Public Works, and ends with project developed by the city, be included with the additional language after the word city with funding granted by OBAG II. |
| 03:09:26.93 | Unknown | . you |
| 03:09:27.25 | Tom | Second. That's my motion. |
| 03:09:27.33 | Unknown | That's what I'm saying. |
| 03:09:29.14 | Unknown | Do you guys, I am? |
| 03:09:29.87 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:09:30.24 | Tom | Bye. |
| 03:09:30.25 | Unknown | Yeah. have an amendment to that motion, which would be to include public hearing and public Well, no. I guess if this applies to the gate 6... Well, yeah, because we've already done public hearings for gate 6 road. That would include... to include public hearings and public mailings to... City residents. per project. |
| 03:10:05.32 | Tom | I don't accept that. I mean, there's a multitude of other procedural things that apply to this. This is a complete streets project. It's unnecessary, but also could be quite confusing by virtue of what we might leave out. So I think it's complete as in. So I respectfully reject that friendly amendment. |
| 03:10:26.11 | Unknown | Well, Doesn't all of these projects have to come before us or before the Planning Commission? |
| 03:10:30.89 | Unknown | I'd like to respond to that. I have, I can say that I have seen things that are included in a plan, a small plan, and it's presented as a straw dog or what have you, and you walk outside and the whole street's been reconfigured. and there's been no specific public discussion on that specific action before it happened. And the other thing is we have guidelines regarding public noticing that only sends alerts to people within 300 yards of certain projects. And something like this with Complete Streets, I think the whole town needs to know because if it winds up narrowing a lane for cars or what have you, I think it's something that everybody needs to be aware of. |
| 03:10:32.24 | Unknown | I'd like to respond. |
| 03:11:29.00 | Unknown | OK, so now I have a follow-up question. I know we're completely off the grid now. So OBEG II, did you say that the time has come and gone for OBEG II? Is the conclusion then that we won't have any more projects that are subject to OBEG II? |
| 03:11:45.78 | Jonathon Goldman | As far as I know, yes. The opportunity to submit applications, a window opened, a window closed. We submitted an application before the window closed. I can't definitively predict what MTC or somebody else might do with something else, but at this point I have no reason to believe that the city would have any other opportunity to apply for OBAG II funds other than the one we've already taken advantage of. And we're advised that in the absence of council action in June on a complete streets policy that we would be disqualified from it. |
| 03:11:47.92 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 03:11:54.81 | Chris Tubbs | Thank you. |
| 03:11:54.92 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:11:55.01 | Chris Tubbs | Thank you. |
| 03:11:55.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:11:55.09 | Chris Tubbs | Thank you. |
| 03:12:24.66 | Unknown | Okay, thank you. And so we have a motion on the table. There was an amendment. That amendment was respectfully declined and now We have a second? We have a second? OK. All in favor? Hi. Hi. |
| 03:12:40.01 | Herb | Bye. |
| 03:12:41.33 | Unknown | Opposed no motion passes. Thank you very much moving along. Thank you, Jonathan. Very good. |
| 03:12:47.45 | Herb | Thank you, Jonathan. |
| 03:12:50.81 | Unknown | Moving on to we're now into section 7 of our agenda this evening. City manager reports, councilman reports, city council appointments, and other council business. |
| 03:13:05.38 | Adam Politzer | Madam Mayor and Council members just very quickly. |
| 03:13:05.48 | Unknown | Sure. Yes. |
| 03:13:10.19 | Adam Politzer | We all know 4th of July is right around the corner, Monday. I think that you guys are all set for the parade. We heard from our recreation supervisor of all the plans for the day and the events that's in the current. And I think you all received, anyone that's participating in the parade received an email this evening with instruction. So hopefully the weather remains terrific. That's the outlook and we'll have a terrific parade, terrific picnic and we can all see the fireworks because the fog won't roll in. And hopefully we can see the fireworks over in Alameda and in San Francisco as well. We are also celebrating the opening of Robin Sweeney Park on Saturday. at 11 o'clock. A lot of anticipation if you come to City Hall, you will see families up on the upper level here looking down. Faces up against the fence along Litho Street, you know, watching the final construction elements going in and the kids just really wanting to get in there and play. So we're very excited with the opening of Robin Sweeney Park on Saturday. the, um, Public forum, we talked last week that the working group led by our community development director on the public forum on short-term vacation rentals was held a couple Saturdays ago. The second public forum is tomorrow night at 6.30 at the Bay Model. We are going to record it. That was something we were trying to be able to accommodate on the low-end budget, and we are going to be able to accommodate. so we'll record it. That was something we were trying to be able to accommodate on the low end budget and we are going to be able to accommodate so we'll record it and we'll put that up on the website. I'd like to share with you our city clerk, assistant city manager Lily Whalen, working with Danny, have posted an open town hall on our website and as of this evening we've had 120 people visit it. That's the most we've had or close to the most we've had if not. 116 of those folks responded. |
| 03:15:22.22 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:15:22.33 | Adam Politzer | And right now, for the people that want to, you know, there's a button there on do you support it or don't support it. There's a bunch of other survey questions that people ask and then some open-ended boxes for people to add their other comments. Recommend that you take a look at it. It's very interesting. But at this moment in time, there's 56% of the respondents saying that we should allow it but with regulations. And there's 44% say that we should not allow it and enforce the ban and another interesting note is 88 people that have responded out of the 120 that visited the site pushed the button on our currents link so they read the currents and they clicked from the currents to go to the survey. So again, it's a good indicator of the community being able to participate without going to the forums. But we expect tomorrow night at the Bay Model to be better attended than the first one now that people are actually paying attention and reading the information. we're planning on coming back to the council i think uh, the second meeting in July the 28th with a report from the working group and the community development director on the information that they've learned and the feedback that they've received from the community. Tomorrow night, the city of Napa is going to be speaking about their new regulations that allow it but with conditions and restrictions. And then Tiburon will come back and again repeat their communication on why they banned it and what steps they've taken into it. So again, we'll have two speakers from two cities, and then we'll have two community members speaking of the pros and cons of it, and allow public comment and take their take their feedback that's all that i have to report for tonight i would also like to really acknowledge melanie purcell and the rest of the department heads in the finance committee the the delivery of the the budget and the smoothness of The budget going through the process was a milestone in my nine years as the city manager and then for the 15 total years with the city it's never gone that smoothly. One of the things that I wanted to point out that wasn't pointed out and I agree with all the other comments that were made by the council members was that at the of the process, the council asked for updates to come back to the council on a more regular basis from the finance committee. And so those notes that were coming back from the finance committee and some of the reports, the initial reports from our administrative services director, I think also helped. And inviting, as the mayor did at every council meeting, people to come to our finance committee, people committee people came and they were able to be heard and they were able to present information and be part of the discussion. So I think that the process really worked and again for someone stepping into the deep end as Melanie did you with the mid year budget you know the finance committee and transition from Tom to Jill from. |
| 03:15:22.42 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:18:25.93 | Adam Politzer | Council member Theodore is to mayor Hoffman in the middle of that. I can remember comments from at least two council members that were very concerned about pulling this together, especially in this transition year with a new administrative services director and the loss of Charlie Francis. So, you know, that's why I really want to give special recognition to Melanie for really an outstanding job there. That concludes my report. Happy to answer any questions from Council. |
| 03:18:56.87 | Unknown | Great. Do we have any council committee reports? |
| 03:18:59.68 | Unknown | Actually, Adam, just a quick clarification. The Bay model for the Airbnb discussions tomorrow night, what time was that again? 6.30. 6.30? Okay, thanks. |
| 03:19:08.34 | Adam Politzer | 630. |
| 03:19:09.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:19:12.39 | Unknown | Any other committee reports? No. appointments, boards, and commissions. So we have We've interviewed library board trustees. Do you guys want to vote on that tonight, or do you want to set that over to the 19th? I think we got, I had an email from Abbott that their trustee meeting is continued, so. We could wait. |
| 03:19:38.31 | Tom | THE END OF THE END OF THE I'd prefer to wait because there's a couple that have alternates, and we have such a wealth of great candidates. It might be worth giving a little extra thought. That's fine. |
| 03:19:46.02 | Unknown | That's fine. Yeah, I'm fine with that. Anybody else? Okay. Appointments to the Business Advisory Committee. I think we were going to do some follow-up with that candidate before we did an appointment. Yeah. |
| 03:19:59.56 | Unknown | Yeah, there, I think though is some other, excuse me. |
| 03:20:03.61 | Unknown | What's your name? |
| 03:20:04.28 | Leon Hunting | Thank you. |
| 03:20:05.93 | Unknown | there are some Because it's a fairly complex committee with the various... Some are voted by the chamber, some are by, you know. |
| 03:20:14.80 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:20:14.96 | Chris Tubbs | I think. |
| 03:20:16.97 | Unknown | Do we have some confirmations of appointments that the Business Advisory Committee Thank you. want to make and the chamber want to make Lily, I think. Is that correct? |
| 03:20:30.12 | Unknown | That's correct. There's a reappointment of Marta Carvalho to a second term. in the city resident position. So that's the council appointed. And then also reappointment of Bruce Huff to a second term in the business advisory committee nominated position. |
| 03:20:38.96 | Chris Tubbs | Thank you. |
| 03:20:38.98 | Unknown | That's it. |
| 03:20:46.06 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:20:46.10 | Unknown | Right. |
| 03:20:46.47 | Unknown | And you can make those reappointments this evening if you'd like. |
| 03:20:49.56 | Unknown | And the candidate we interviewed tonight is for one of the open positions of the city appointed, and I think we agreed that maybe that person should go talk to someone on the BAC before we proceed there. |
| 03:20:54.01 | Unknown | and so. |
| 03:20:54.33 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:21:02.70 | Unknown | Yeah, that's fine. So let's reappoint, or do we need to do a motion? I need to do a motion. I move that we reappoint Martha Caravalho. I don't think I said that right. Yeah, sorry, Martha, my apologies. And reappoint Bruce after a second. |
| 03:21:21.01 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:21:21.16 | Unknown | Reappoint Martha to a second term as the city resident position and reappoint Bruce Huff to a second term in the business advisory committee. Second. |
| 03:21:27.66 | Unknown | I'll second that. |
| 03:21:29.75 | Unknown | All in favor? |
| 03:21:30.48 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:21:30.53 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:21:30.56 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:21:30.63 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:21:30.83 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:21:30.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:21:31.00 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 03:21:31.04 | Unknown | Thank you. you |
| 03:21:31.83 | Unknown | you |
| 03:21:32.94 | Unknown | Adam, I meant to ask one more question. Excuse me, Madam Mayor. Regarding the city reports regarding Robin Sweeney, I heard that the measure... |
| 03:21:37.18 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:21:37.19 | Unknown | . |
| 03:21:37.23 | Unknown | Right. |
| 03:21:37.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:21:37.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:21:45.95 | Unknown | The COP Oversight Committee had some debate or something about funding, like it costing more to meet the July 4th deadline to get the park ready. Do you have any insight on that? |
| 03:22:04.19 | Adam Politzer | I do not have any information on that. Okay. Melanie, who staffs the COP committee, has not shared that much. |
| 03:22:07.50 | Unknown | Thank you. you |
| 03:22:12.01 | Unknown | Okay, okay, I'll follow up with an email and maybe you can... Thank you. Okay, thank you. |
| 03:22:18.66 | Unknown | Okay, moving on to future agenda items. I have on my list here the issue of the moratorium of financial services for Caledonia that we discussed earlier tonight. Does anybody else have any... A few charges and items. |
| 03:22:33.05 | Unknown | Yes, I would just like to take that suggestion and turn it into a motion, if I may, given the urgency. One of the things we talked about was potentially having a special meeting on that topic. So perhaps having it sooner rather than later. So before I make the motion, I'd like to open it for discussion and just get a read. I guess I need to make a motion. I would move to agendize the Caledonia State Moratorium specifically on financial services. by early July. Oh, no, by July 10th, random. |
| 03:23:24.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:23:24.17 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:23:24.23 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:23:24.30 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:23:25.87 | Unknown | . |
| 03:23:25.95 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:23:25.97 | Unknown | Do you? I have a problem with that because of my schedule. I can't. |
| 03:23:30.56 | Unknown | Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's okay. Okay. Well, I'm open to suggestions as to dates. No, I'm open to suggestions as to dates. I mean, I've just been told it's an urgent situation and we could lose... |
| 03:23:30.88 | Unknown | Oh, I'm sorry. I was like, That's right. |
| 03:23:44.75 | Unknown | you know, |
| 03:23:46.63 | Unknown | I don't disagree with that. |
| 03:23:46.66 | Herb | I'm not. |
| 03:23:46.73 | Unknown | Wow. |
| 03:23:46.96 | Herb | I don't disagree with that. Ten pledges. |
| 03:23:50.59 | Unknown | I think the first chance I think we're going to have to look at it is the 19th. And I'm happy to- |
| 03:23:50.69 | Herb | Thank you. |
| 03:23:56.99 | Tom | And by the way, I would... like it to be at the agenda setting committee, but I think before we put it on, and we've heard this item, and we have to be careful that we're taking one person's complaint with one landlord and having multiple meetings on this. I think I'm happy to have the agenda setting committee look at whether it's necessary, but I think one is that we should have our community development director interview both the landlord and the complaint, and we understand there's one, and it's Lily in this, to see if there's really some probable cause we go. Number two is we really need to notice this landlord. And if the agenda setting committee entertains moratorium, as was explained in our last meeting, that's a very drastic thing and is a potential to interfere with business. we have to do special notices to all the business community as well and and also I'd like to have our city attorney look at is there any I'm concerned about getting some contract interference with contractual advantage or something and where we just take someone's complaint and and and use city I WANT TO MAKE make sure that we're not getting ourselves on any legal issues by taking moratorium on something just because someone, because certainly there's a lot of things go on in the city and if someone comes to council and they get a council member to say we're going to have a moratorium on that thing and all business comes to a halt because there's one person complaining. We have to make sure that there is substance to this. So we need to look at this very closely. |
| 03:25:28.47 | Unknown | So we need to look at this very closely. And we do know, in fairness, we do know that there were three other businesses that appeared to go against the zoning of Caledonia. |
| 03:25:41.27 | Tom | And we looked at that and agreed that we were going to have the community development. So we took action on that. So I guess it. And then no moratorium was necessary. |
| 03:25:41.48 | Unknown | What do you think? |
| 03:25:45.02 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:25:45.04 | Unknown | we took Yeah. |
| 03:25:46.42 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 03:25:46.47 | Unknown | It's... |
| 03:25:46.74 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:25:46.79 | Unknown | No. Sure. |
| 03:25:47.60 | Unknown | as necessary. Okay, point well taken. I have a solution. |
| 03:25:48.28 | Unknown | I have a solution. I have a solution, I think. So we're, community development, |
| 03:25:50.03 | Unknown | Go ahead. |
| 03:25:54.62 | Unknown | is coming back to us on the 19th, right? Did we agendize that yet? OK, so we gave direction to community development to look at Caledonia Street, right, and do a further survey. OK. It's true, this is a genociding item, but because of the sort of this is kind of bubbled up into the forefront. My inclination is to put that issue on the 19th. We have almost three weeks. I mean, granted, there's a holiday in there. But we have until the 19th. That's our next city council meeting to be prepared to look at this. And I agree. I agree with both Council Member Pfeiffer and Council Member Theodores. I think we need to look at it, but we need to make sure that we're fair and that we look at it from all sides. |
| 03:26:44.34 | Tom | But I don't think, I mean, I'll just express on this, is we have important times to do things. And if it's looked at by staff and that either this complaint is not correct or there are other appropriate measures that fall short of having a hearing in moratorium, I'd like agenda setting to take that into account and not take our time to re-hear this again. So, I mean, certainly there may be, and as our community development director, there are other remedies if there may be. Now, if there's only a moratorium, that's one thing, but a moratorium is extreme. And so it may not need an entire council if staff is able to take the measures. Perfect. |
| 03:26:45.45 | Unknown | I'm sorry. Yeah. on this. Mm-hmm. |
| 03:26:51.07 | Chris Tubbs | Yeah. |
| 03:27:08.17 | Unknown | Thank you. So I mean, sure. |
| 03:27:25.01 | Adam Politzer | that was a major. And just for clarification purposes because I want to remind the Council that came down torment is down a and this is an assistant planner. and We disapproved effective July 1. code enforcement help, and building inspection help. And so the direction that we received... last week. was to go to the inventory. So I don't think we can go and do the inventory and come back with a moratorium discussion on financial services. We can do one or the other. So you're based on the resources in that department and the other competing projects that there were in building season. So they have a lot of activity in that department. So if you want us to come back, |
| 03:28:02.18 | Chris Tubbs | So, |
| 03:28:16.90 | Adam Politzer | what I'm understanding, the motion that was being proposed was to come back, focus on a moratorium on financial services and how do we How do we actually do that? then that would be the focus that we would ask our community to come back and we would place on hold the inventory of the rest. Well, the inventory factors into the moratorium too. Just one second, please. |
| 03:28:30.99 | Unknown | And we would place on hold the image Well, the inventory factors into the moratorium too. |
| 03:28:38.55 | Chris Tubbs | Thank you. |
| 03:28:39.93 | Adam Politzer | good. The challenge we have with the inventory is that the Chamber of Commerce doesn't have an executive director to help us do the inventory. And so knocking on doors or tracking down everybody that is upstairs, downstairs, and not always not a Monday through Friday or not a 9 to 5 operation will take some time. So the direction wasn't to come back on the 19th with a report. The direction was to do the inventory work with the Planning Commission, you know, and come forward with recommendations. |
| 03:29:17.65 | Unknown | So Adam, I have a follow-up question. we may or may not have a short-term crisis here with regards to losing residents serving businesses. We had a number of small business owners here at our last council session. We had a petition that was signed by many people that have seen some of this turn on Caledonia Street. So I guess, to me, this is an urgent issue. So what is, we've got a short-term issue that you're saying is going to take a long-term issue. you know, time frame. So what can we do here? Is there any, yeah. |
| 03:30:03.75 | Tom | here. May I follow on on this? Because I think we've missed at least the point I'm trying to make. I don't think we're looking at exploring a moratorium. And I think what we're about to do does take precedent over this inventory. We're asking you to take a look at this one complaint about the financial services to see what it is. And I would follow on that by the 19th. We should look at the three that raised last week. And at least have community development say, what were the source of these? Who made the complaint? Were these people, how were they removed or evicted? Were they evicted or did they just leave? And what's going in there? Can we just do that for the I think that's three of them because Lily is one of the three. She's the highest priority and we do the other two. Can we do that? And then if they have time to follow on with further inventory. But I mean, this is what's causing the emergency, so Council Member Pfeiffer. And that would also address my issue, because I think what we're really looking at is, is... What is the extent of this concern? And investigating these three complaints would take us a long way to see if there's any substance on that. |
| 03:31:11.08 | Unknown | I think that's a good idea. And also be prepared with options for moratorium if we want to do that. But be prepared. |
| 03:31:20.78 | Unknown | Yeah, I think that makes sense. Okay. Yeah, because that's absolutely what's driving this is that feedback. Adam, you think that's doable? |
| 03:31:22.15 | Unknown | Okay. Because that's actually, Exactly. |
| 03:31:30.52 | Unknown | I |
| 03:31:31.79 | Unknown | you |
| 03:31:31.80 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 03:31:31.84 | Unknown | Yes. All right. Awesome. Very good. Thank you for hard work and coming up with a solution, Council. Well-oiled machine that we are. |
| 03:31:39.13 | Unknown | you |
| 03:31:41.14 | Unknown | Yeah, but what would change to that? |
| 03:31:42.43 | Herb | Oh. |
| 03:31:42.69 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:31:42.75 | Herb | Thank you. |
| 03:31:43.38 | Unknown | No one said it was new oil. Okay, so future data items, moving on. Yes? Oh, sorry. |
| 03:31:49.91 | City Clerk (Lily) | Yes. |
| 03:31:50.62 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:31:50.64 | City Clerk (Lily) | I'm sorry. |
| 03:31:50.97 | Unknown | I received an email from a resident regarding Schoonmacher Beach and questions as to sufficient parking, et cetera. So I said I would raise it. I have to be honest. It was one email. And I'm not sure I have... you know, an understanding about exactly Thank you. the full scope of the problem or if there's a problem. But I did say I would raise it and highlight it as a potential future agenda item. Thank you. |
| 03:32:26.73 | Unknown | Yes, thank you, Madam Mayor. I would like us to Receive a presentation organized by the Community Development Department. The earliest it could be would be September or around Plan Bay Area. 2017. The reason is that APAG and MTC may have had their little fight, but the plan B area planning process is carrying on. You know, MTC, as feared, has taken the reins in certain respects and has issued projections for job growth and household growth in all of the jurisdictions, including Marin County, including Sausalito. I've not analyzed the numbers in any depth whatsoever, but they must have also been sent, they will have been sent to our community development department. And, um... This involves an analysis of three possible scenarios in the future that ABAG and or MTC will use to set the RENA allocations, the regional housing allocations, needs allocation, in the next cycle, which would be 2020 or something, 2021 or whatever it is. So I think it's really important for cities to keep on top of this planning process because what happened in 2013 is that we ended up, they ended up using numbers that some of us thought were totally inappropriate So now is the time to catch it early before these numbers get baked in to planning documents. So I think a presentation from... |
| 03:34:25.36 | Unknown | It. Yeah. |
| 03:34:27.49 | Unknown | community development, possibly bringing TAM and ABEC or whatever along to help understand that. |
| 03:34:33.75 | Unknown | Yeah, and just to echo that, I would say that I was one of the few who were actually, I was writing letters to Plan Bay Area when they were still kind of affirming those numbers and was very upset over it from the beginning, from the get-go. I have sent an email to Mayor Pat Eklund in Nevada, who is our liaison for ABAC, asking her for the deadline for public comment. Ray, do you happen to know what the |
| 03:35:08.75 | Unknown | but comment. |
| 03:35:09.78 | Unknown | Because, I mean, I just got, I mean, I was surprised. I just got an email from a resident activist kind of outlining the scenarios. I was surprised that I hadn't seen that. And then when I was researching it, trying to find the deadline for public input, it wasn't there. And I asked the resident, and she did the research, and all we could find was a reference to the deadline being in spring slash summer. So it was very nebulous. And I was thinking, well, summer, does that mean the end of June? Like, I have to get my input in in two days? So if you don't know, I don't feel so badly. You're the liaison. But I mean, don't you think that that's something that if they want public input, they should make it very clear what the date is? Yeah. Okay. Any other future? |
| 03:36:03.96 | Unknown | THEM. |
| 03:36:04.33 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:36:04.47 | Tom | I do. I want to reiterate the request made by Council Member Withey last year of having the Sausalito Marin City School Board here. There are a lot of issues coming up, of course, with their superintendent. Many things, including their coming out with proposing a bond issue that will come on this November's election. I think they're discussing it tonight at the same time as us. So I think there are a number of issues, and I would recommend that invite the president of their board and I would, it'd probably be a good idea. I was having somewhere at the end of July or August, if it's true that we have to think about, because this will affect all of us, a lot of the actions that they take, including this bond recommendation. |
| 03:36:39.60 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:36:46.56 | Unknown | I have reached out to the president of the school board as the council's school's liaison. And so she's indicated, yeah, that she's willing to come. But it's probably going to be in September because we only have two meetings, July. So it's going to be, and school's back, right? So it's better to have school issues when school's in. Okay, any other future agenda items? Yes. No? Okay. Any other reports of significance? Seeing none, we are adjourned. Thank you. and we are three minutes ahead of schedule. |
| 03:37:23.70 | Unknown | Mayor, will you make the adjournment announcement that I, about adjourning to? Yes, I'm sorry. |
| 03:37:26.95 | Unknown | Yes, I'm sorry. Yes, the adjournment, before we adjourn, our next meeting is July 19th. The meeting after that is one week later. So our meetings for July. Should you wish to have your city council fixed before the summer break? They're at the 19th and the 26th, and then we have no meetings scheduled for August. So then we're into September. Now we're adjourned. |
| 03:37:50.82 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:37:50.83 | Tom | are always going to be |
| 03:37:51.41 | Unknown | you Thank you. |
| 03:37:54.59 | Unknown | There we go. |