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| 00:00:08.76 | Erica Lovejoy | I did get one of those. |
| 00:00:11.02 | Unknown | Oh, yeah. |
| 00:00:20.53 | Jill Hoffman | Good evening and welcome to the Thursday, October 13th City Council meeting. Debbie, could you please call the roll? |
| 00:00:29.90 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Councilmember Weiner. |
| 00:00:30.98 | Vice Mayor Withey | THE FAMILY. |
| 00:00:31.82 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Councilmember. Theodorus? Present. Councilmember Pfeiffer? Here. Vice Mayor Withey? |
| 00:00:33.46 | Vice Mayor Withey | Present. Thank you. |
| 00:00:36.45 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | here. |
| 00:00:36.85 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Mayor Hoffman. |
| 00:00:37.95 | Jill Hoffman | present. At this evening's meeting, item D1 will be discussed in closed session. Do we have any public comment on closed session items? Seeing no one in our audience, we will move on to adjourn to closed session. |
| 00:00:56.26 | Vice Mayor Withey | We must have a customer feel. Thank you. Uh, |
| 00:00:58.16 | Jill Hoffman | Oh boy. |
| 00:00:58.45 | Vice Mayor Withey | Bye. |
| 00:00:59.99 | Jill Hoffman | . |
| 00:01:14.21 | Jill Hoffman | Good evening and welcome to the Thursday, October 13th regular city council meeting for Sausalito, California. Debbie, could you take the roll please? |
| 00:01:25.50 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Council Member Weiner. |
| 00:01:27.26 | Vice Mayor Withey | THE CITY IS A LITTLE BIT. |
| 00:01:27.97 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Council member Theodores? Present. Council member Pfeiffer? Here. Vice mayor Withy? Here. |
| 00:01:29.10 | Vice Mayor Withey | Present. |
| 00:01:32.17 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:01:32.19 | Vice Mayor Withey | here |
| 00:01:32.62 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Presently. um Chuck Donald, you were here a second ago. Are you still here? Here we go. |
| 00:01:39.90 | Unknown | Yeah, yeah. |
| 00:01:40.74 | Jill Hoffman | Would you lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance please sir? |
| 00:01:49.73 | Unknown | Do I get to stand on you? You may stand wherever you like. Do whatever you want. |
| 00:01:50.77 | Jill Hoffman | Yet you may stand wearing light. You may stand wherever you like. No, that's okay. |
| 00:01:59.88 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. |
| 00:02:00.11 | Unknown | to the class. |
| 00:02:04.86 | Unknown | you |
| 00:02:15.66 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. We do not have we had closed session this evening. We don't have any closed session announcements. Do we have any public comment on closed session items? see no one approaching the podium. Do I have a motion for approval of the agenda? |
| 00:02:28.34 | Vice Mayor Withey | So moved. |
| 00:02:29.38 | Jill Hoffman | Second? Second. All in favor? Aye. |
| 00:02:31.91 | Vice Mayor Withey | Bye. |
| 00:02:33.80 | Jill Hoffman | All right, we're moving on swiftly to the special presentations and mayor announcements. It is my great pleasure tonight to recognize Robin Sweeney and Chuck Donald on the completion of Robin Sweeney Park and the improvement project. And I believe Lauren has some comments and slides. |
| 00:02:53.08 | Lauren | I do. Thank you, Mayor Hoffman. It's my pleasure to be in front of you again tonight to talk about a wonderful project that many of you have seen and probably had a chance to walk through and take a look at. So let me jump right into it. |
| 00:03:16.03 | Lauren | All right, so this is for the Robin Sweeney Park Improvement Project, and we have some great photos in here and some really interesting information on this project. First off, we want to say very special thanks to Robin Sweeney. She was just telling me a few things about her service to the city of Sausalito. She's been living in Sausalito since 1952. She was on the City Council for 28 years. I asked her if she believes in term limits. No, she doesn't have to worry. No one's going to do it. |
| 00:03:44.97 | Vice Mayor Withey | Implicate that, I'll tell you that. |
| 00:03:47.41 | Lauren | So she's also, she may have seen her many times down at the Ice House. She was a volunteer down there. Are you still down at the volunteering at the Ice House? OK, as soon as we get rid of that, we'll get you back down there. So thank you very much, Rob and Sweeney. The park that was there before was probably visited by so many children who are now adults and who have children now who are going to get another opportunity to raise their children in Rob and Sweeney Park again. So it's really pretty amazing. And I'm very proud to have been a part of that. |
| 00:04:25.25 | Lauren | They're probably going to make you get up and do something after my presentation, so we'll get back to you. I'd also like to say a very special thanks to Chuck Donald. Chuck Donald has been, as you can see from the quote there on Adam Paulitzer for many years about putting a flag onto the Civic Center property. There was a flag pole, then a tree grew around it, and we couldn't fly the flag pole. Chuck. wasn't too happy about that and he has been reminding Adam for many years that we needed to have a flag and we finally do have a flag and it's in a great spot at the along the Caledonia frontage where everyone can see it, and it's really fantastic. And Mike, do you want to talk about that right now? Okay, so Chuck, thank you for being persistent. We're glad you could finally see us get our act in gear and put a flagpole around the Civic Center. Chuck has been a resident of Sausalito since 1977. He's been a member of the Planning Commission, I believe, and also a member of the Friends of Dunphy Park. So thank you very much, Chuck. |
| 00:05:37.85 | Lauren | Here's another picture of Robin. I think she went down the slide there. That might be why she's now using that. But that is one of our new guests to the park. This is grand opening on July 2nd. This was only a little while ago, and... The thing that amazed me the most was the number of people who showed up and how many children there were. stunned. It was by far the most numbers of the public at an event by the city of Sausalito or that I've seen as a member of the city of Sausalito. So it was a fantastic day. It was a beautiful day. Everyone had a fantastic time. It was really great. So we have some significant days and milestones here. This project was started, as you can see, as concept form back in 2010. Then it started to go into conceptual design work approved by the City Council in 2011. Then we got a little bit hesitant and didn't do very much for a little while. And then in November of 2015, we did have the election which affirmed the decision to use certificates of participation to fund this project. Within a few weeks after that, we are out to bid on this project. We open them up just before Christmas. The contractors were very happy about that, setting up a bid opening right before then. On January 12th, we came back to the City Council and we awarded the project to Bauman Construction. On February 8th, the city issued a notice to proceed. They began the construction really about one or two weeks after that. That's really when they started sending some staff out. And then on July 1st, we had substantial completion. I have to tell you one thing. I had been told many, many times that this project needed to be finished by July 4th. And then Adam said, it needs to be done on Friday, July 1st. And those two days were very important to me. But we were able to work with the contractor, and the contractor was able to get that park substantially completed on July 1st so that we could open it up for the children and for the parents to come and visit on July 2nd. I was stressing out a little bit on those last few days. Now we have some other pictures. You'll see some pictures of the construction as it's gone through and some other notables about the project. Now we have a fully accessible pathway from Caledonia all the way up to City Hall. We have that so you can get to the basketball courts. You can get all the way around the turf area. So that's a really nice piece of what was done on that project. This surprised me when I did the count. Over 1,000, 1,055 new plants were brought into this project and placed throughout the whole park. So that doesn't include the grass. That's just one. All the other plants that are situated around, that is the other 1,054. We place 470 cubic yards of concrete. That's the retaining walls around the perimeter of the playground, all the walkways and some other ADA fixtures on either side, the ramps, as well as the new seat wall at the front of Caledonia. We placed 11,000 square feet of sod Up to 30 or 40 Bauman workers were involved in this project. What was really interesting on this project for my knowledge was that Bauman performed most of the work. Most contractors that you'll work with will be a general contractor and sub out a lot of their work. But these guys do their own concrete work, they were doing their own carpentry, they were doing all of their landscaping So we were really working with one contractor, not a lot of subcontractors. That's really helpful on a project because if you're only dealing with one guy and one schedule, you can make things happen. When you have to start coordinating all these different subcontractors who have different priorities, it can be a challenge. So that, I think, went a long way in making this project finished successfully by that July 2nd date. And 400 cubic yards of soil removed from the project site. So some of you may have remembered Mount Langford in the very middle. Thank you. He calls it Mount Humbertus, I call it Mount Langford. But we removed a number of that soil. And a lot of that soil came out because we placed 470 cubic yards of concrete. So you can see here, this is a small little pathway. The two little trenches on the side are for the curb walls that run along that pathway. But that's over by the cherry trees and by the basketball court. So another really interesting piece about this project is the irrigation. So in the previous park area, we had 11 distinct irrigation zones. We now have 35 distinct zones. So each one of these colors on this drawing represents a different zone. And the benefit of that is that you can control the water consumption in each one of these areas very accurately. So when we had 11, you turn on one, it just sprayed everywhere. And some of those areas needed more water and some of them needed less. So this allows us to really control the use of water in this park. And according to the reports that were submitted to MMWD by the landscape architect for this project project it should result in an overall reduction of 20 percent in our use of water compared to what we had before on the turf and then it should result in a 50 reduction in the landscaped areas and that should mean should translate out to about 29,000 gallons a year which is Great. And it also helps us to control this area so that we don't get the same types of wet spots that we might have gotten before. We're able to control those a little bit better and tweak the system as we need to. So there were a lot of people who made this project happen. There was obviously the architect. We have Vince Latanzio and Wesley Bexton. that they made it to a So Vince and Wesley, Vince has been involved, was involved in this project from day one. He was the one who was working on all the public presentations, gathering all the information about what the community wanted to see, and then translating that into the drawings, and then into what you see today. Wesley was also associated with this project ongoing during the construction. Baumann Landscape and Construction. Mike Baumann was the owner of this company. He was involved. You'd see him out there every day walking through the park. Angela Baumann was the project manager who we had weekly meetings with. And Jerry Kaler was the foreman who was on that project and was really instrumental for helping us achieve that final completion date of July 2nd. We also received a significant amount of help from Readinger Consulting, a local consulting, construction management and project management firm here in Sausalito, Constance Readinger, I believe is here. She is the principal. She was also assisted by Art Gibney. You'll often see him riding through town on his bicycle with his reflective gear. And he's been working on a number of projects for the city outside of this one. Greg Paulson and Victoria Boer. |
| 00:12:48.57 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:12:49.65 | Lauren | who is the office manager who sent us all those invoices in a timely basis. So we want to say thank you to her, she was great. Then there's the city staff. We'll go through this really quick. You know who those guys are. Jonathan, myself, Mike Langford. I think Mike Langford put himself down the lower corner. And I think he should have put himself on his own page. Mike Langford did a significant amount of work, and I don't think that we can diminish anything about what Mike did in walking this project from when it came from concept to, through today and in fact you know he was at every meeting and he was telling us what people wanted to see and he as much as anyone else was a project manager out there telling me, you need to go back to the contractor and make sure he does it right. So, Mike hopefully we'll be involved as well and as much on the next projects because he was a real asset on that and Thank you. Jonathan is a great boss and will keep you, with your nose straight. He was also very instrumental in making sure that this project completed by July 2. So thank you, gentlemen and other city staff. There were other people who worked. |
| 00:14:09.13 | Lauren | I missed a couple of people. Andy Davidson was involved in this project. Alex Chan was still around a little bit. Bryant Ho, who was a new staff engineer, he was involved too. So Katie was also involved. Everyone was involved in this project. This was truly a community-based project. But last of all, we have to thank our residents for pushing us and for demanding from us a good quality product and giving us the wherewithal and giving us the votes and approving the methods to make this happen. So it really comes also back to the community that. supports what we do and we support what they want to have happen. So that's also really important to acknowledge. So just to kind of go through a couple of pictures, and you'll see just a few. But this was what it looked like before. The sand was there. One of the comments that I've heard from the parents is because it was sand, they didn't know what was in the sand, so maybe it wasn't a great place to hang out all the time. Organic material like leaves would fall into it and get buried into it. And if you talk to them now and you see what they're doing, they're sitting on the slope and they're hanging out in the shade and it's a much more comfortable area for them to sit in and the comments that we've been hearing was that it's just kind of a little, run down before, but now it's really nice. And one really great thing about it is now it meets all the current safety standards that parks need to comply with and if you start going through the list of those requirements you'll realize that there are many of them and they try to catch all the things that little children can do and get themselves into trouble and there are still ways that they can do so. But right now, complies with all current requirements. So this was sometime around early February. And then within a few months, In June, you can see they were building the playground area. So we hadn't even started putting down the surfacing or any of the play equipment there. That's in June. June 20th we are knocking out the sidewalk that's the whole front concrete seat wall that runs along Caledonia you can see often to the left that there's no turf in there that's on June 20th and basically about 12 days, 13 days later all that stuff happened. I'm always amazed by projects that they seem to kind of ramp up very slowly and then a whole bunch of activity happens at the very end and then you get a park. So we've had some informal surveys out right now and |
| 00:16:36.80 | Unknown | I think that that says, I love this park. |
| 00:16:41.36 | Lauren | So we'll take that as a positive. And that young man right there is the son of Angela Bauman, the project manager for this project. So he was the first user of the park. I mentioned to her that he probably gets to do that a lot. And she said, yes, he gets to try out all the new parks everywhere in the Bay Area first. So that's a pretty cool job that he's got. So it's been a real fantastic experience. acceptance by the community. For the most part, There have been a few people who are not happy about it. Some people don't get to use the park as their own playground, so this poor guy's going to have to get something else. But overall, everyone seems to like it. That concludes the presentation. If there are any other questions about the project, I'm happy to answer them, and we'll go from there. |
| 00:17:29.79 | Unknown | Thank you. Any questions from the council? Thank you. I actually have. Yeah, good job, very exciting to see this. I guess the only thing I can say is I wish it had happened sooner in 2010 when we were pushing it. I've had some parents ask me about the green noodles. I'm just curious, what are those? It's really interesting. They asked me, I said, I don't know. |
| 00:17:54.80 | Unknown | the |
| 00:17:54.88 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:17:54.95 | Unknown | It's really interesting. |
| 00:17:60.00 | Unknown | So they serve a couple different purposes. Some of them are what they call talk tubes, where you can talk into one noodle, and then on the other side of the playground is actually where the voice comes out. There's a tube that connects them. They're also an element of art in the park to kind of add some art to the park. And it's also a way to have some abstract play. A lot of times these days, everything is programmed for the kids, you know, and they... are told this is how you swing, this is how you go down the slide, this is how you climb on this piece of equipment. These are things for them to use their imagination and play and run through and have a good time that way. There's also another issue is that with the current laws you have to have safety zones around all of the play equipment. And especially if it's a piece of play equipment that moves, such as the swings or the, as we call it, the Christmas tree out there that spins, you can't have anything else within a certain zone. And there wasn't enough room to put another piece of play equipment in there. So we opted for the swim noodles, the green swim noodles, as something to give it a play element, but something that didn't need a safety zone around it. |
| 00:19:20.12 | Unknown | Thank you very much, just really burning with curiosity. Now I can answer that question when I get it. The other question I had was about the, could we see the photo where you show the, the, construction going on, the side-by-side photos. Yeah. Okay. Were those, so someone on the oversight committee, the COP oversight committee was telling me about the trees that were accidentally damaged by the contractor. And are those the mature trees there that we're seeing or were they another set of mature trees? Mm-hmm. |
| 00:19:44.57 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:20:04.55 | Lauren | Yeah. So within the, what was the old playground area, there were two pepper trees, and they were placed, if you can imagine, let me go to the, landscaping plan because you can see where the overhead is. And maybe I can show you from that. Thank you. |
| 00:20:21.49 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:20:30.30 | Lauren | So in the location about right here and about right here, were two existing pepper trees within the old playground. they were originally intended to remain. And there's a little concrete seat wall that goes around here now that has a little sand pit area and that has seat walls. And there was another area that is up in here where they had to do essentially the same thing for getting the pathway there. And the trees weren't damaged by the contractor, but what ended up, we started to see this one becoming stressed. Because as we created the ramp to get in there, it required the cutting of some of the roots. and we started to see this one becoming stressed because as we created the ramp to get in there it required the cutting of some of the roots and it started to get a little stress and we thought this may not make it when we started to then examine this area here the location of that seat wall was going to be placed in a spot that we thought might impact those trees pretty heavily. And so we went back and forth on trying to figure out how to save them, what we needed to do in order to make them. We talked about expanding this little area to make it a wider seat wall, but we didn't want to start making changes so late in the game. So what we ended up doing is we made a decision. We said, we're not sure that these are going to remain. And if they die afterwards, if we complete this project and then they die, They're going to be much more difficult to remove. It's going to be, everyone's going to take a look and say, wow, these are dead trees in here. So these two trees were planted when the original playground was constructed. And so we made a decision to buy new two plants, and the architect actually forwarded the money for that. So we replaced those two pepper trees with two fruitless olive trees. So now we have two new trees that are going to be growing with this park like those others did. So it was unfortunate, but that's what ended up happening with those trees. |
| 00:22:23.33 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:22:23.90 | Lauren | And actually, let me point out one other thing I didn't point out in the notables. |
| 00:22:24.16 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:22:29.32 | Lauren | The original site plan for this whole entire project had 40 trees, and we now have a net gain of two trees. So the two trees that were replaced, and then we added two additional trees. So we have a total of 42 trees versus 40. |
| 00:22:45.51 | Unknown | Thank you, because what I had been told by one of the oversight committee members was that there was an understanding that it was the contractor error that in the process of development that they had entered the trees. But what I'm hearing from you is it's completely different. It was in the course of planned development that the trees became problematic. |
| 00:23:11.38 | Lauren | Yeah, the way I, The challenges of, I think that the challenges could be looked at more in the design, in the sense, not necessarily in the sense that the architect did anything tremendously wrong, but in order to make these happen, you need to put walls where they need to go in order to make the pathways. So the contractor on the first tree, you know, had done some of the work, and that's what caused that tree to start stressing out, and then we started noticing that it was not doing well. And then before he even started the work at the other pepper tree to the south, if you will, that's when we all sat and said, what is going to happen here if you build these walls? And he said, well, I'm going to build them. And, you know, if the tree dies, he's in a position where he's, designing what is drawn. So there's probably a little bit of there was probably a little bit of belief that we could make it work and we probably tried a little too hard to make those two trees work in that location because It's just tough doing a big construction project where you're having to put pathways and walkways and new concrete. and try to integrate existing trees. And the architect may not have known the full condition of these trees, how deep the roots were. If the roots were deeper and we could have put the walls in, that could have helped. They tended to be very shallow and we exposed them. So there were a number of challenges on those trees, but it wasn't the contractor not taking care of them. It was more probably we had a little bit too much confidence that we could build around them and keep them. |
| 00:24:53.32 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Does anybody, I have a couple presentations to make, that's gonna be the highlight. Is there anybody on the city council that would like to make any comments about the presentations? No? Okay, all right. Well, let's proceed on to our exciting presentations. Thank you. Yeah, thank you, Lauren. And very well done. |
| 00:25:08.15 | Calvin Chan | Thank you. |
| 00:25:16.40 | Jill Hoffman | So our first presentation is going to be to Chuck Donald, our steadfast servant of Sausalito. And let me say, too, I have two presentations. And it really highlights the great thing about Sausalito and that our citizens are willing to give up substantial time and effort from their professional lives and their family lives to this great city of ours. And the two people we're recognizing tonight is Chuck Donald and, of course, Robin Sweeney, who's here with us. But the first presentation is Chuck, this is your flag that you gave to the city. This flag has been flown on the flagpole, I was told by Mike Langford, for 24 hours today. So we are giving this back to you with many thanks and presenting this to you. Mike, could you... Could you get us? |
| 00:26:14.38 | Jill Hoffman | And then we'll come down and take some pictures, but. That's right. And so my great pleasure is that Robin Sweeney is here with us today. And there are many stories about Robin Sweeney. And there's a couple I'm going to tell. One is that, one is, by the way, she's the reason that we have a park. She was on the city council. And I believe she was mayor and had the genius idea to redo the asphalt parking lot out front into more of a lawn and a park. And so that's why we have Robin Sweeney Park. And so I heard that she was driving past one day with her grandchildren in the car and they saw the park and said, look, our Nana's named after this park. And the other story that I like was I was at the city council a couple years ago and people were talking about we need a new park and someone said, Robin Sweeney needs a face lift. And not knowing that Robin Sweeney was sitting in the. in the audience that night. So Robin Sweeney the park has had a face lift and we're very happy about that. And I have a new key for Robin Sweeney to Robin Sweeney Park in recognition of your vision, dedication, and love for the families and children of Sausalito. So thank you so much. |
| 00:27:53.96 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:28:03.13 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Oh, yes, and the people that work on the park and stuff, they want you to come up with your flag too. |
| 00:28:22.97 | Vice Mayor Withey | Thank you. Right in the middle of our head. you |
| 00:28:26.52 | Jill Hoffman | And by the way, Robin Swinion was the first female mayor of Saskatchewan. |
| 00:28:26.55 | Vice Mayor Withey | Thank you. |
| 00:28:34.51 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:28:42.01 | Unknown | Thank you. I'm going to take the one if you want to go. |
| 00:28:46.49 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:28:46.51 | Unknown | I'll just go. |
| 00:28:47.47 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:28:47.63 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:28:47.66 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:28:47.68 | Unknown | We didn't have a little later. |
| 00:28:53.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:28:53.16 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:28:53.89 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:28:54.14 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:28:54.48 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:28:54.49 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:28:54.61 | Unknown | And you check it out. |
| 00:28:54.97 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:28:58.58 | Unknown | Did I get to stand by you? Yep, the grandparent. |
| 00:28:59.57 | Unknown | Yep, you're gonna come right up. |
| 00:29:04.50 | Steve Vivaros | Yeah. |
| 00:29:08.43 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. I'm not. . |
| 00:30:01.99 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, our next item on the agenda, Hold on. |
| 00:30:13.08 | Jill Hoffman | which is item B. Introduction of the 2016 City of Sausalito Southern Marin Management Academy graduates. And I'm told that Susan is going to be giving that for us. |
| 00:30:27.90 | Susan Patterson | Susan Patterson. Wow, what a wonderful presentation to follow. Thank you. So, Madam Mayor, council members, short and brief, I promise. Madam Mayor, council members, you see, I'm Susan Patterson. I'm the HR manager with the city of Sausalito. And I would like to thank you once again for another year of the Southern Marin Management Academy. This is the fourth year. You're all very familiar with it. And so this year, I thought I would share a few statistics. So since its inception in 2013, we started with five core agencies. So we started with Mill Valley, Tiburon, Sausalito, Southern Marin Fire, and Marin City. Now, after four years, we have eight agencies that now include Belvedere, Larkspur, Central Marin Police Authority, and San Anselmo. We have graduated 76 participants in four years with the Academy, 19 Academy participants each class, and 25 of whom are with the city of Sausalito, and many of whom have been promoted. So as your coordinator, I just have to share, it's very exciting for me. I love being the coordinator. I love finding speakers that match the needs and the challenges with the employees and their backgrounds and their needs that match and align with the employers and all the different agencies. So not only do I thank you very much at doing this and being your coordinator, we're also conceptualizing a management academy too, but that's another meeting. Adam, I thank you for allowing me to be the coordinator. Obviously, it's become a very successful program. And with that, I would like to introduce the 2016 Management Academy graduates. We have Sergeant Steve Vivaros. Thank you. |
| 00:32:30.60 | Susan Patterson | Associate Planner Calvin Chan. |
| 00:32:40.35 | Susan Patterson | Maintenance worker two, Steven Hanson. |
| 00:32:47.88 | Susan Patterson | Admin aide in community development, Anita Chang, could not be here this evening. And Russ Jaycox, who could not be here this evening, as you know, he's our IT technician. And he couldn't be here because he's coaching his daughter's water polo team, who won for the very first time in five years. And also Battalion Chief Matt Barnes, who couldn't be here this evening with the Southern Marine Fire Protection District. So Steve, Calvin, and Steven Viveros all have a few words they'd like to share with you. |
| 00:33:24.22 | Steve Vivaros | Thank you. I've been happily employed with Sausalito here for 12 years. I appreciate that, and I love serving this community. The one thing I took away from this academy was we had about four months in, we got to sit down with all the leaders of the communities. If a city was represented in the class, then that city manager was at that luncheon. If a department was represented, like the Central Marin Police Authority, their chief of police was there. And it was just a real down home, get to know these people and what makes them tick. And I don't know that there will be ever another opportunity like that. And I really appreciated it. Thank you. |
| 00:34:06.33 | Calvin Chan | Thank you, Mayor Hoffman, members of the Council. Thank you for your continued support of the Management Academy. Looking back on 2016, it's definitely been one of the highlights of my professional development for this year. Thinking back, we had so many different sessions. Some of my favorites were budgeting. Thank you, Melanie. Strategic planning and also conflict resolution. Looking forward to 2017, I'm really excited to bring forward the lessons that we've learned in the Management Academy towards the exciting projects that CDD will be engaging in. One of the things that really stuck with me was what County Supervisor Kate Sears said during our graduation. She said that you can be a leader at any position. And that's definitely something that I take to heart and something that I've also kind of added to my favorite planning repertoire quotes that planning is about people, the way we live, how we live, and the way we aspire to live. So thank you for your continued support for the Management Academy, and thank you for letting me share this with you. |
| 00:35:11.65 | Steven Hanson | Hello, my name is Steven Hanson and I'm with the Public Works Department. I've been happily employed for 16 years here and I just want to thank Mayor Hoffman, all the council member, of course, Adam Pulitzer. and Susan, you did an excellent job on coordinating this course, and it's kind of an eye-opener on You know, everything that all the different employees do, like finance, you know, the attorneys, directors, And you learned a lot from it, and I'm going to take this experience and try to move up with my career here. So thank you. |
| 00:35:50.92 | Susan Patterson | Are there any questions? |
| 00:35:53.23 | Jill Hoffman | No. |
| 00:35:53.40 | Susan Patterson | you |
| 00:35:53.47 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:35:53.48 | Susan Patterson | Thank you. Okay, yeah, congratulations. Thank you, and what I'd like to do is I'll send you a list of the graduates and I'll send you a list of the speakers. So again, thank you very much, Adam, thank you. |
| 00:35:54.65 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. And what I'd like to do is I'll send you a letter. So again. Thank you. Well done. |
| 00:36:03.24 | Susan Patterson | Well, the. |
| 00:36:03.49 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:36:10.02 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, moving on to item two on our agenda, communications. We are at public communications. This is a time for the City Council to hear from citizens regarding matters that are not on the agenda. Except in the very limited situation, state law precludes the council from taking action on or engaging in discussions concerning items of business that are not on the agenda. However, the council may refer matters not on the agenda to city staff or direct that the subject be agendized for a future meeting. Please make sure you fill out a speaker's card and turn it to the city clerk if you'd like to speak during this section. Do we have anybody who would like to speak during public comment section? I believe Jeff would like to speak. Jeff, that's fine. You're welcome. |
| 00:36:54.71 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you, Mayor Hoffman. Okay, I can see the three minutes from there. I'll make this a little more difficult on myself. Oh, but first I have a question. Why is the meeting tonight and not On Tuesday. |
| 00:37:14.01 | Adam Politzer | We moved it off of Yom Kippur. |
| 00:37:15.72 | Jeffrey Chase | Yom Kippur! Woo-hoo! How was it, Herbie? Thank you. Was it okay? Shana Tova. Happy New Year. Okay. I guess Sausalito's becoming a little bit Jewish. |
| 00:37:29.70 | Jeffrey Chase | So I'll read first from the Torah, the Torah portion for this week. It's ha-azinu, which means listen. And it says, when the Most High, Elyon in Hebrew, gave nations their lot, goyim, our nations. When he separated the sons of man, he set up the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the children of Israel. Because the Lord's portion is his people, Jacob, the lot of his inheritance. He found them in a desert land and in a desolate, howling wasteland. He encompassed them and he bestowed understanding onto them. He protected them as the people of his eye. As an eagle awakens its nest, hovering over its fledglings, it spread its wings, taking them and carrying them on its pinions. So the Lord guided them alone, and there was no alien deity with him. He made them ride upon the high places of the earth that they would eat the produce of the field. He let them suck honey from a rock and oil from the mighty part of a crag, the cream of the cattle and the milk of the sheep with the fat of the lambs and the rams of Bashan and the he goats with the kidneys of wheat. The congregation of Israel would drink the blood of grapes, which was as the finest wine. And everything before this section is a poem. It's written in a poem. It's got different margins in the Holy Torah. The next paragraph. says this, Ve'yishmin? Yesheroon, and Yesheroon became fat and rebelled "'You grew fat, you grew thick and rotund. "'Israel forsook the God who made them, "'and he spurned the mighty rock of their salvation.'" So when we become contented, when we have everything we need, That's when we rebel from the highest, when we forsake. what has given us everything, given our food, given a place to live, given Sweeney Park. And I just heard something about the most beloved restaurant in Sausalito called the Sartage, that this place was raided by the health inspector and they were forced to destroy their food with Sausalito police officers standing by. And that was their closing party. They're no longer open anymore. This seems like a bit of a coincidence. for a free party. These are the only people, along with avatars, the... And that was their closing party. They're no longer open anymore. This seems like a bit of a coincidence. For a free party, these are the only people, along with avatars, the Indian restaurants in Sausalito, that give food for free to their citizens on Thanksgiving, the most American of holidays. So... I'll be thanking you more and talking better next time I'm up. |
| 00:40:14.47 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:40:14.51 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. |
| 00:40:15.91 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:40:16.41 | Jeffrey Chase | Okay, thank you. |
| 00:40:17.48 | Jill Hoffman | You're welcome. Any other public comment? for matters not on the agenda, seeing no one, moving on, item three, action minutes of previous meeting. Do we have a motion to approve the prior meeting minutes of September 27th, 2016? |
| 00:40:35.87 | Vice Mayor Withey | So moved. Second. |
| 00:40:38.28 | Jill Hoffman | All in favor? Aye. |
| 00:40:38.30 | Vice Mayor Withey | Thank you. Bye. |
| 00:40:39.84 | Jill Hoffman | Motion passes. Moving on to the consent calendar. Item number four on our agenda. Matters listed under the consent calendar are considered routine and non-controversial, require no discussion, are expected to have unanimous council support, and may be enacted by the council in one motion in the form listed below. There will be no separate discussion of consent calendar items. However, before the council votes on a motion to adopt the consent calendar items, council members, city staff, or members of the public may request that specific items be removed from the consent calendar, for separate action. In order to request an item be pulled, you must have completed a speaker's card and turn it into the city clerk. Items will only be removed from the consent calendar by vote of the Council. Items removed from the consent calendar will be discussed later on the agenda when public comment will be heard on any item that was removed from the consent calendar. Do I have any public comment on or request to remove items from the consent calendar? I see no one. Do I have a motion to approve the consent calendar? |
| 00:41:41.39 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | I move adoption of the consent calendar items 4A through H. And I'll second that. |
| 00:41:47.79 | Jill Hoffman | All in favor? Aye. |
| 00:41:48.40 | Vice Mayor Withey | Yeah. |
| 00:41:48.41 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Bye. |
| 00:41:49.26 | Vice Mayor Withey | Thank you. |
| 00:41:49.90 | Jill Hoffman | Consent calendars approved. Moving on to item 5, public hearing items. 5A is introduction of first reading of an ordinance amending chapter 8.4 of the Sausalio Municipal Code regarding the fire codes and we have Deputy Fire Marshal Fred Hilliard with us this evening, I believe. Yeah. Welcome to Sausalito, sir. |
| 00:42:16.24 | Fred Hilliard | Good evening, council. My name is Fred Hilliard, and I was in the 2013 Management Academy, and it was- |
| 00:42:22.06 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:42:22.08 | Unknown | Yeah, very nice. |
| 00:42:23.03 | Fred Hilliard | really great academy and I'm sure it's improved since so I definitely |
| 00:42:26.54 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:42:28.48 | Fred Hilliard | would say that this is a very strong thing that Sausalito puts on and should continue. |
| 00:42:46.21 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | So, |
| 00:42:46.26 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:42:46.36 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 00:42:49.97 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. |
| 00:43:10.16 | Fred Hilliard | Before we begin, I also would like to point out a couple things. A lot of questions come up around this time of the year, especially this week, when it comes to the firefighters and their appearance. We're all wearing pink, as you can see underneath. Actually, I have my uniform shirt on, but I have pink, as well as our staff and a couple of our board members. We represent the cause for breast cancer awareness. And the entire union in Marin County all do the same thing. All the firefighters that are in the union 1775, we all wear pink in order to recognize that. So if people have questions, there's the answer to that. The other thing is we have an open house this weekend. And we'd like to invite anybody who would like to attend. And it's 10 to 2 o'clock. at all of our stations. So tonight I'm here to- |
| 00:44:02.66 | Unknown | I'm sorry, what was that day? |
| 00:44:04.49 | Fred Hilliard | It's this Saturday. Thank you. |
| 00:44:06.59 | Unknown | From 10 o'clock to |
| 00:44:06.61 | Fred Hilliard | From 10 to 2. From 10 o'clock to 2 o'clock. |
| 00:44:08.53 | Unknown | And where is it down here? It's at all the fire stations in Southern Room. Thank you. |
| 00:44:09.44 | Fred Hilliard | It's all the fire stations in Southern Rim. Thank you. So station one and four and nine. So this is my third time up here to talk about the fire code and ordinance adoption. It's a tri-annual code adoption that what happens is the state of California adopts a new code, and then they give us about 180 days to make specific amendments to the code for our own jurisdictions. And this particular code cycle, there was not a lot of changes or additions. There was a lot of verbiage changes and whatnot, but we're going to go through that in the presentation. So, We're asking that we're going to review the chapter in the Municipal Code of 8.40, which is where the fire code actually lives. We're looking to adopt the 2016 fire code and the 2015 international code and Appendix A of the 2015 International Wildland and Urban Interface Code. So this basically prescribes the governing and conditions of hazardous hazards to life. It also allows for us to issue permits. It also empowers our duties as firefighters and fire prevention officers. So the California Fire Code is basically a model code from the International Code Council. And the International Code Council adopts their fire model code in 2015, so it's always the year prior. And with local amendments that we craft countywide with all the fire prevention officers. They adopt the 2016 code and then it goes out for any type of local amendments. It incorporates new construction, substantial remodel, and some sections for existing buildings. This does not include the Wildland Urban Interface Ordinance. That's a separate ordinance. It does have provisions in it for areas within the Wildland Urban Interface. However, Sausalito does not have a Wildland Urban Interface area. At this time. Again, the state adopts a new fire code every three years. It comes out in July. The California Building Standards Commission adopts the 2016 California Fire Code, as well as the Building Code, the Residential Code, and several other codes. I'm not sure. The fire code becomes effective regardless of any adoption by any municipality January 1st and is considered the minimum code requirements for the state. So if we did nothing, the fire code would still go into effect, but we don't want to do that because it would be not a code that would have the specific code sections that would allow for us to do a better job in Sausalito. Local agencies and cities have the option of adopting a more strict code with amendments to the model code within 180 days, which is of July 1. So the fire chiefs, fire marshals, and fire prevention officers, like I said earlier, we review that code when it comes out in July. We put that to the existing code that is in enforcement right now. We look at the amendments, and then we come up with a series of recommendations. So this is not just me and the fire chief going through this particular code. This is actually all of the fire marshals and fire prevention officers in the county together, collaboratively, putting this code together. Sausalito's last code adoption was in November 5th of 2013. So again, every three years you'll see me up here. So some of the key local amendments, and this is all in your staff report. I put that in there for you. Bullet pointed and then also in the sections of where they would apply. We renumbered some of the reference sections, reflect sections that are found currently in the new edition. They do shuffle things around and renumber them. So we need to make sure that we know where they are and that our amendments, the numbering of our amendments also coincide with that. The adoption of Appendix A of the 2015 International Wildland Urban Interface Code, Every year that the code cycle comes out, well, the International Code Council also has a new International Wildland Urban Interface Code, so we need to also adopt that new code. Appendix B of the California Fire Code, this is flow requirements for buildings with modifications and or deletions. Again, that was last code cycle. We had the same particular requirement in our ordinance that we adopted for Appendix B. And so it's not any different. It's just the new code cycle. So we had to put that into our ordinance. Adoption of Appendix N. This is temporary haunted houses, ghost walks, and similar amusement use. This section we adopted because we do have a haunted house, and we want to make sure that everybody is safe for that. So we felt that it was important that we put that into our code. |
| 00:49:55.28 | Jill Hoffman | You mean a commercial haunted house? Thank you. |
| 00:49:57.40 | Fred Hilliard | I THINK IT'S A COMMERCIAL HOMBASS. |
| 00:49:57.64 | Jill Hoffman | Not an actual. |
| 00:49:59.88 | Fred Hilliard | It's a great thing. |
| 00:50:00.14 | Jill Hoffman | Because we have those in Sausalito too, but not commercial ones. |
| 00:50:07.21 | Fred Hilliard | So we added a couple of sections to our boating community. We added the operational permits for marinas, dry boat storage, and wet boat storage. We also added a permit for boat repair and boat construction facilities. At this particular time, we don't have a standard or policy to go with that, but like a lot of the sections that you could issue permits for in the fire code we come up with those standards and those policies it's a collaborative effort between all the fire marshals and basically all the jurisdictions that have boats and marinas We added a section for unwarranted alarm notification. This would be your false alarms. And, you know, after several false alarms, we do get quite a few false alarms. So we wanted to make sure that there was an ordinance in there or a code section in there that addressed that. And we had to also add a definition because there wasn't a definition of what an unwarranted alarm was. |
| 00:51:14.12 | Fred Hilliard | So we added in the emergency preparedness for hotels and lodging, conjugate houses that you have to have a telephone reporting, telephone to report emergencies. You know, it seems kind of odd that we would put that in there, but to be quite honest with you, everybody has a cell phone. But the reality is that if a fire alarm or something happens in the middle of the night, sometimes you can't get or don't know where your cell phone is and you walk into the hallway, we want to make sure that there's some way that you can notify us or any type of emergency services. We modified the requirement for fire sprinklers. This is simply we just added a couple of different structures that were not in the fire code. The manufactured homes were not in there, the mobile homes, and the multifamily manufactured homes with two or more dwelling units. So those weren't in there. So if somebody were to have a plot of land and decide they want to build their house somewhere else and bring it into Sausalito and put it onto a plot, then we would want to make sure that it would, they would also have to conform to the fire sprinkler regulations that anybody else who has an existing house that would have to have their, or modified their house or put a new house in would have to follow the fire sprinkler code. We required that commercial cooking systems, that they are now going to be required to follow the NFPA 96 policy. Is there a big change? No, it's mostly a paperwork type of thing. And also, they will have to have their systems tagged more often than they did before. and this is a good thing because we've actually recently had a couple of fires that have resulted from ansel systems that have not discharged properly. um... And we modified and deleted chapters, modified and or deleted sections of Chapter 11 requirements for existing buildings. So in conclusion, what we're requesting, obviously I'll answer all your questions that you have, but at the end of that, we're requesting that the City Council introduce this by title only, so just the title of the ordinance for Chapter 8.40 of the Municipal Code, and then set a date for the adoption of the fire code, and then set a date for the adoption of the fire code for the October 25th meeting. At that time, then it will be a vote and it will go into effect. We'll post the fire code right after this meeting as a draft, once you've read it, and then after it's been adopted, we'll post it for 15 days. The code actually goes into effect January 1st, so it does not actually go into effect until after the first of the year. And I'll entertain any questions. THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:54:17.93 | Unknown | Any questions? Thank you for that presentation, appreciate it. Quick question about the second units. We passed, as you know, a second unit ordinance for the first time in our two housing elements ago, I think it was 2012 or something. And we had a conversation about the fire sprinklers. And I know, I think Fairfax at one point waived that for the amnesty units to encourage more affordable housing in Fairfax. Thank you. I think Fairfax at one point waived that for the amnesty units to encourage more affordable housing in Fairfax. And I was wondering, does this new ordinance, does this new code, rather, make... that sort of wiggle room just not feasible in in Sausalito |
| 00:55:06.45 | Fred Hilliard | Actually, when the city did the amnesty program, we were very much involved in that, and we did wave fire sprinklers for the second units for the time period that the second unit program was in effect. After that, we basically looked at the size of the second unit and how they were attached to the particular structure, if any modifications were done and how much that was as far as space-wise. If it did go over the 50%, then we did make them put fire sprinklers in. This particular ordinance, we did not change anything when it came to the second units, and we'll probably do the same exact way, you know, do it the same way. |
| 00:55:06.59 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:55:50.83 | Unknown | Perfect, thank you. |
| 00:55:52.10 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Any other questions? All right, does anybody wanna? public comments sorry any public comment on this matter on the agenda no see no one okay would someone like to make a motion Oh, I thought we had to |
| 00:56:10.58 | Unknown | We have to. |
| 00:56:10.95 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:56:10.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:56:11.01 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:56:11.89 | Unknown | I THINK I'LL MAKE A MOTION. |
| 00:56:12.14 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, I'll make a motion. |
| 00:56:14.22 | Unknown | you |
| 00:56:14.29 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:56:14.30 | Unknown | I move to introduce and read by title only an ordinance amending chapter 8.40 of the Sausalito Municipal Code regarding fire codes and set a public hearing for adoption. That's all I need to... |
| 00:56:14.41 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:56:28.33 | Unknown | Thank you. That's my motion. Second. |
| 00:56:31.30 | Jill Hoffman | All in favor? |
| 00:56:31.92 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:56:32.02 | Fred Hilliard | Bye. |
| 00:56:32.68 | Jill Hoffman | Motion passes. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:56:34.10 | Fred Hilliard | Thank you. |
| 00:56:34.98 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Nice to meet you. |
| 00:56:35.97 | Fred Hilliard | So the only thing we do need is the actual reading of the The title. |
| 00:56:41.34 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:56:41.96 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:56:43.04 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:56:43.21 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:56:43.74 | Fred Hilliard | Thanks. |
| 00:56:43.97 | Unknown | That was in the recommended motion, I read the recommended motion. |
| 00:56:44.04 | Mary Wagner | That was in the recommendation. Sorry, Councilmember Theodorus, that's actually correct. It's a rather lengthy title, and it's on the attachment to your staff report. |
| 00:56:48.43 | Unknown | Thank you. THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:56:50.91 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 00:56:50.97 | Unknown | THE FAMILY. |
| 00:56:51.18 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:56:51.21 | Unknown | Thank you. the attachment to your staff report. Oh, well, I'm not going to do that. Sorry, I have to read this. OK. |
| 00:56:56.38 | Unknown | I have to read this. Okay. So, |
| 00:56:59.92 | Unknown | Let's see, I move to introduce An ordinance of the City Council of the City of Sausalito, amending Chapter 8.40 of the Sausalito Municipal Code, and adopting and modifying the 2016 California Fire Code, 2015 International Fire Code, and Appendix A of the 2015 International Wildlife Urban Interface Code, prescribing regulations governing conditions hazardous to life and property from fire or explosion, providing for the issuance of permits for hazardous uses or operations and defining the powers and duties of the risk reduction prevention and mitigation division and officers. Very good, thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:57:47.30 | Jill Hoffman | Yes, second. Second, all in favor? Aye. And also you wanted us to bring it back to City Council on October 25th? Please, yeah, for our second meeting. |
| 00:57:47.42 | Unknown | Second. |
| 00:57:48.47 | Fred Hilliard | Thank you. |
| 00:57:49.46 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:57:49.97 | Fred Hilliard | Bye. |
| 00:57:56.38 | Fred Hilliard | Is that correct? For a second reading and a formal adoption. |
| 00:57:57.90 | Jill Hoffman | in the formal adoption. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:58:00.30 | Fred Hilliard | Thank you. Thanks for it. |
| 00:58:03.37 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, moving along to |
| 00:58:09.68 | Jill Hoffman | Item 2B, I believe, is consideration of a resolution Consider making findings required for the city to enter into an energy conservation services contract pursuant to government code section. 4217.12 for the construction of energy conservation measures to the Martin Luther King campus property. And Melanie Purcell, our administrative services director, is giving a presentation on that. |
| 00:58:37.81 | Melanie Purcell | Good afternoon. We're pleased to come back. shows some progress on Martin Luther King complex. Real quick, just what we're asking for is a resolution before you to approve an energy conservation services contract to construct intended repairs to multiple components, generating significant energy savings for the life of the project. Translated, the Energy Conservation Services contract includes $1.6 million of the $3 million originally budgeted from the certificates of participation for the renovations and repair at Martin Luther King Complex at MLK. The contract includes roofing and HVAC replacements and repairs to the gas lines feeding the HVAC systems. These were all identified as part of the comprehensive facility condition assessment at MLK in the spring of 2015. A little bit of background, the CFCA was done again in spring of 2015, identifying $30 million worth of repairs and renovations needed to retain its current and operating capacity. The COPs were issued in January of this year to include those $3 million to repair and renovate it. The original not to exceed $3 million contract for design and construction was approved by the city council in June of this year. And the professional services design contract was entered into and executed by the city manager as authorized by city council for $300,000, 10% in July to execute construction drawings and final assessment. The purpose of the government code section, 4217-10, is to encourage municipalities to construct energy conservation improvements. As we went through the design work with ABM, with whom we had entered into the design contract, It became clear the city needed to conduct a public hearing under 4217 to execute the construction contract and consolidate all of these items together. It is a technical requirement to fully comply with state law. The construction contract itself does not change any of the elements that the council has already approved. It is $1.6 million of the original $3 million contract. It is the roof replacements on all buildings, HVAC replacement on all buildings, and repairs to the gas lines. The gas lines were identified during the construction drawing stage, and we were able to incorporate them into the existing budget, and are able to generate the cost efficiencies by doing so, as well as the energy savings. The estimated energy savings from this particular part of the project is $25,000 per year minimum. $500,000 over the 20-year useful life. So it's a very positive part of this project. Our recommended motion is to move to adopt the resolution before you making the required findings under Government Code Section 4217. 12th, authorizing the city to enter into an energy services contract with ABM Building Solutions, LLC, for certain improvements to the MLK complex, and authorizing the city manager to execute the energy services contract with ABM Building Solutions for construction of energy conservation measure improvements to the MLK complex. Any questions? |
| 01:01:40.70 | Jill Hoffman | Any questions to that? |
| 01:01:45.48 | Jill Hoffman | Right. |
| 01:01:45.70 | Unknown | you |
| 01:01:46.25 | Unknown | you Thank you. |
| 01:01:48.24 | Unknown | Go ahead. Okay. So I recall that when we were looking at the breakdown of the MLK repairs that were needed, I remember in that spreadsheet it was initially presented as the rationale for the 4.1 million or whatever it was needed for MLK. Later it was described as estimates for various repair work that was needed. The reason I bring it up is because a number of those line items were actually mentioned in the lease of the tenants. In other words, that they were responsible for the costs. And so I'm just curious, when we're looking at the energy conservation services, you mentioned HVAC, the gas lines, the roofing, |
| 01:01:48.85 | Unknown | . |
| 01:02:46.94 | Unknown | I guess I'm just wondering has there been kind of a breakdown and a mapping to the lease of the tenants in terms of what they're responsible for. Because I seem to remember, well anyway, before I speculate, |
| 01:03:02.70 | Melanie Purcell | Thank you. |
| 01:03:02.73 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:03:02.88 | Melanie Purcell | This component is strictly the structural component. improvements to the facilities, it wouldn't matter if there were tenants or not. So it is the responsibility of the landlord. For the roof and HVAC, they are far beyond their useful life, which was noted in the CFCA. And this is an exceptional opportunity for us to garner some substantial savings. energy consumption by doing it this particular way. |
| 01:03:30.36 | Jill Hoffman | Can you explain a little bit, you know the requirement under government code section 4217.10 that requires you to bring this type of contract? I mean, it's referenced here, but I don't Is it, I don't really understand. |
| 01:03:49.47 | Mary Wagner | Yeah. |
| 01:03:49.49 | Jill Hoffman | Madam Mayor, if I, |
| 01:03:49.54 | Mary Wagner | Madam Mayor, if I may. So the government code allows for this type of contract to be let without going through the notice and hearing requirements required under the public contracts code. So the actual code section that requires this action tonight is 4217.12. And it specifically gives the city the ability to enter into an energy service contract, provided that it's done at a regularly scheduled public hearing, which you're doing tonight. And we give two weeks notice in advance, which we did. And then that the council makes certain delineated findings that are listed in the statute. As we work through this process with ABM and staff, we called through the projects, determined which ones fit within this category, and brought that contract back to you tonight for action. Thank you. |
| 01:04:39.88 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you any other questions in line of mine Yeah. No more questions? |
| 01:04:46.19 | Unknown | you |
| 01:04:46.45 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:04:46.99 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. Is it possible to get a breakdown of the, like the, is it just like the HVAC and the gas lines? I mean, is that those three big chunks, that's it for 1.6 million? Thank you. |
| 01:05:06.22 | Melanie Purcell | Yes, ma'am, it's a huge project. |
| 01:05:07.82 | Unknown | you |
| 01:05:08.82 | Melanie Purcell | all of the roofs in every building there are 11 11 buildings and Aloha. Hold on. I can actually tell you the exact number of... HVAC systems being replaced. Shhh. |
| 01:05:28.50 | Melanie Purcell | The entire facility is being upgraded. |
| 01:05:37.36 | Melanie Purcell | Seven HVAC systems. |
| 01:05:41.07 | Jill Hoffman | 7. |
| 01:05:42.03 | Melanie Purcell | Large system. 14 SEER and 13 and a half SEER. So we're upgrading all of the environmental capacity. The roof will now be LEED compliant. and then we'll be actually saving some money. |
| 01:05:57.00 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Great, any other questions? Okay, anybody wanna make a motion? of the I'm sorry, my apologies. Any public comment on this item? Thank you. None. Okay, motion. |
| 01:06:10.55 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Yep. I move to adopt a resolution making the required findings under government code section 4217.12, authorizing the city to enter into an energy services contract with ABM Building Solutions, LLC, for certain improvements to the MLK complex, and authorizing the city manager to execute an energy services contract with ABM Building Solutions, LLC, for the construction of energy conservation measure improvements to the MLK complex. Second. |
| 01:06:45.77 | Jill Hoffman | SECURITY. |
| 01:06:46.04 | Unknown | Exactly. Yeah. |
| 01:06:46.86 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:06:46.90 | Unknown | Thank you all in favor. |
| 01:06:48.52 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Bye. |
| 01:06:49.97 | Unknown | Opposed? I'm not opposed. I'm just going to abstain because I just want to go through this, and I know this will come back to us. So for now, I just want to do a little bit more homework on this. Okay. Motion carried. |
| 01:07:02.96 | Jill Hoffman | We're going to move on to our next item. Item six of our business items. We're moving on to the business section, the business item section's number six of our agenda, and the first step is item 6A, Bicycle parking and congestion management program update from our Chief of Police, John Robacher. |
| 01:07:30.40 | Jill Hoffman | And this is. This is just our periodic update. This isn't the wrap-up. This isn't the season wrap-up. Correct. Okay. |
| 01:07:45.03 | Unknown | Next evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of City Council. As a refresher, I'd say is it just an update? Our last appearance in front of the city council was in July. Thank you. So at that time, even though it was mid-month, we gave a little... We have the 4th of July weekend which is really busy. but we're going to go back with the whole month of July and then also August and September and some other comments. |
| 01:08:13.70 | Unknown | Too many slides. All right, jumping right into July. So as another refresher, part of the 10-point plan that the council approved that had been proposed by the Bicycle and Pedestrian Advisory Committee was to do a lot of data gathering, and so that's what's taking place here. So comparing data to last year really only starts in June because we didn't count data early in 2015. So we've been counting data in 2016 since the beginning of the season for us. So luckily we have counts for 2015 in July for Station 1, which is, of course, the first coming into town before Alexander. And the increase for July compared to the year before was 19%. Thank you. first coming into town before Alexander. And the increase for July compared to the year before was 19%. So, The next numbers that are important out of all the things that we count is the income that we're receiving and the amount of parking permits that are sold for people to park in our Valley Parking. And it'll paint a little more pictures as I go through the others, but there is clearly an increase in revenue from parking 15% and the amount of permits sold being 14. Those two numbers will never actually really match up because we do give away some uh parking for free when it's kids and |
| 01:09:41.10 | Calvin Chan | Thank you. |
| 01:09:42.80 | Unknown | You know, the families of kids under 12 or 13 or whatever it is that they don't pay to park their bikes. So in August, we see a little closer count for Station One, the bikes coming in, and with just a 7% change, that just means that both months were busy both years. There's nothing really other to read into that, but in the valet parking income, We're starting to see that increase and we're seeing the amount of permits sold increase even though the amount of bikes coming in was not as many. And even though we'll never really know for sure, we do believe that that is |
| 01:10:08.52 | Calvin Chan | to see. |
| 01:10:24.13 | Unknown | influenced at least in part by the enforcement and pounding of the bikes that are parked illegally. So in September, I remember last year we had a fairly slow month because of rain. This year we had a little bit more activity, 13%. But where we saw a much larger increase was the amount of people who paid to park, both by the number of permits sold and by the revenue uh, And again, we're believing that some of that had to do with the word getting out about it would be better to pay the $3 and park in the valley parking and rather than risk the cost of a $25 release fee. And to get to this point, of course, required a lot of cooperation from all the people involved in working on this in the congestion management, which includes the bicycle rental companies, the ferry companies, the Saucyuto Plus, and the ambassadors. |
| 01:11:15.56 | Calvin Chan | I'm just... |
| 01:11:20.63 | Unknown | um, So those are the numbers for those three months. And then this is a slide directly from data given to us by Golden Gate. I know it's a little small, but... |
| 01:11:38.33 | Unknown | Here you can see in October we don't have that yet, so our year ends aren't finalized for comparison's sake. I think most of us remember that 2014 was a pretty big year for us and we saw a very big jump from 2013 and of course some apprehension about whether that was going to continue at that scale. 2015 turned out to be a little less than 2014. I'm not really sure that I want to predict what 2016 is going to look like, but you can see from the numbers coming across that it probably falls more in line with 2015. That's the count of southbound bikes on Golden Gate Ferry. And they actually produce quite a bit of data for us as well, counting. They have all the individual times that the boats leave the dock. So we actually know which boats are leaving with how many bikes on them. that has gone up significantly in the last year since the ferry companies have added people to work on the boat to help with boat bike parking on the boat itself and the way that they take the tickets ahead of time and line up the bikes ahead of time to help answer the complex problem of how to get people out of town. So on this slide, I didn't have September when I did the staff report, but I was able to get it in time for tonight. and it shows the result of all those efforts from the Golden Gate Ferry to help pick up the load of getting people on the boats. And so that's just the monthly count, comparing July, August, August, in September. Before I change slides, I also wanted to point out part of the counting that's done with the bikes you know by the people from south city plus the ambassadors you know they count at station one which of course the entrance to town they count again at at El Portal and Bridgeways, the bikes churn in. And they've noted over the year and last year as well that of all the bikes that come into town, 85% of them make the turn onto El Portal, 15% just keep going. and maybe they already had their mind made up to go to Mill Valley or Tiburon, that's just fine. And, but it's pretty consistent. And then out of that 85% or so that make that right hand turn onto El Portal, they count how many of those actually end up in the Valley parking. And the reason I bring it up is last year, the numbers may be hovered around 30, 35% went into the Valley parking. This year we've had weekends where it's as high as 50. And so it always begs the question is what happens to all the others, they just keep riding around or do they just take the shortcut, throw up a towel, go around, didn't get counted and then went to Belvedere or Tiburon anyways, we don't know. But we do know how many actually parked in comparison and there's a lot more of them that are parking than not. So moving on to the enforcement part, So you know I was hesitant about getting started on this and I want to explain it one more time, just a little bit about why, not just to be ornery about it, but We, before we actually see somebody's property, from a law enforcement point of view and actually impounded in place, you know, it's not actually the same as issuing a citation and walking away from it. Because people can drive away with a citation still on their car. But once we've put our hands on their property and locked it up, You know, we have to have a position that allows us to show that we've done everything we can first through signage or warnings and all that. And so by June 24th, I've been, okay, okay, we're finally ready and we start in. And, um, So in June and early July, the actual enforcement was done by people from South Street Le Plus and our parking enforcement officers because our retired parking officer wasn't able to come back quite then. In fact, if I remember correctly, he was locked in back when the computers for a Southwell airline went down and they were all trapped back east. And so he was late coming back. And so we had to forgive him that. But... Once they got going, they impounded 517 bikes through October 4th. and which is about the time when we quit doing the impounding. So of that, there was over $6,000 in revenue related to that. If you do the math on 517 bikes at $25 a bike, it's a lot more than $6,000. But we gave away a lot of bike impounds, especially when it was a family of four, coming in and we were just weren't going to stick him with 100 bucks. you know, so you could call us soft, but it's true. We just weren't going to do it. And so we still collected $6,250, but, there's a little bit of room in there for us to take into consideration, people who We are in a situation we wanted to do that. So, even though, and our extra hire parking officer is Jamie Lamonto, who worked here for many years before he retired. And this is his second year back doing part-time work for us. When he wasn't locking up and pounding bikes, he was looking for parking violations. 400 of them. And they are worth about $20,000 in revenue to the city. And so he's working in municipal lots and all the area around that in between Luckin' up bikes. And of that, I know this question came up last year, so I wanted to include it ahead of time, but we paid him about $10,000 in summer wages. And of course, that's an hourly wage, no benefits, because he's a retired part-time worker. And then the final numbers will be in a little bit later, but those are awfully close. And so if you have questions about that later, I can answer them for you. So at this point, that's just the raw numbers. You will note that I did not include any kind of financial slide, I did that on purpose, because I don't have end of season numbers ready for you, so I don't want to do a lot of speculating. This is just a report on numbers about how we were doing. But I can take any questions you have about this. and if you have any. |
| 01:18:00.62 | Jill Hoffman | Thanks, Chief. Yeah, this is just one of the periodic updates that we requested as we went through the season. I don't have any questions right now. We probably want to set a date for when you guys come back. Thank you. |
| 01:18:11.40 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:18:11.72 | Jill Hoffman | for the end of season wrap up and recommendations for next year. |
| 01:18:14.59 | Unknown | I'm sure. And we, like last year we closed off and reopened the street in the last weekend of October. We anticipate doing that the same this year. So the Saturday and Sunday before Halloween will be our last. |
| 01:18:21.42 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 01:18:25.52 | Unknown | public works crews will come in and free up the street at that point so then we'll be able to start putting our financials |
| 01:18:28.65 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:18:28.66 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 01:18:32.63 | Jill Hoffman | Great. Okay, any questions? Okay. |
| 01:18:34.74 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:18:34.77 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:18:34.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:18:35.12 | Jill Hoffman | Oh, yeah. Okay. Go ahead, Tom. |
| 01:18:36.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:18:36.69 | Unknown | Oh, on the enforcement, we understand the 517 citations, but the important part is, do we know, have the bike companies gotten the message, and have they been transferring that message to their customers? That's the most important part. Do we feel that enforcement has resulted in less violations? We're not seeing the bikes parked illegally? Can you speak to that just a bit? |
| 01:19:00.88 | Unknown | Yes, the answer to all those is yes, in varying degrees. But we certainly had 517 illegal parked bikes, but there would have been far more if we weren't doing the impounding program. And without the cooperation of the bike rental companies, it would have been far worse. So the companies that are owned by Jeff Sears and his family group, they put out information in the store. They put it on a smartphone app telling people where to park. However, they had so many bikes that they're not here to actually control the ball, but they're trying to get the message out to their customers, the family that owns the bike and roll, Jeannie and her family, they were just awesome. In fact, the very first time one of their bikes got impounded, she called me up and apologized that that happened because she was trying for a season where not a single one of their bikes, and they rent a lot of bikes, was gonna be illegally parked. And so she was beside herself, frankly, that that happened. And so they're trying so hard to be good partners with us to get that message out. And, you know, we had a... I'm not sure. you know so so many bikes come through even in the groups and trying to you know usher them into the right area takes so many people to make that be successful but for the most part you know we we um i think we did fine there was a part where lieutenant gregory and some of her crew noted a place where there was a couple of of racks put right next to a newspaper stand right by the Bank of America. And it was like an attractive nuisance. And it was the most jumbled up place and we removed the two spots to create the attraction and no more bikes parked there. So there was little ways we could work on that as we learned throughout the season. So it seemed like every day, every weekend was another learning opportunity about, you know, where people were parking because clearly some people didn't want to pay and they took a risk and then they paid it. |
| 01:21:08.57 | Unknown | Okay, thank you. Thank you for the presentation and also for everything your department does with these bikes, which are driving me crazy. So I had a question about the, as you know, I've called the department when I've seen the rental bikes crowding the sidewalks and kind of a safety hazard. And I'm just curious, the impounding, the 517 illegally parked rental bikes that were impounded, what is the process for identifying that? Is it call-driven? In other words, do you wait for a resident to call? Do you get a business to call? Or are you doing patrols? |
| 01:21:17.95 | Calvin Chan | bikes. |
| 01:22:00.55 | Unknown | The work done by the parking officer was all on view. And so he's walking around. Jamie walked many miles this summer. putting, you know, visiting every area that he knew was prone to having bikes parked illegally, there was probably maybe if any handful that were actually called in and reported. They're all done by his observation. And before that was the parking enforcement officers and the ambassadors who did the first two or three weeks of it. And so once they, you know, lock them up, they leave a note on them with the phone number to call for us to come and release it after they hand us the receipt for the $25 they paid. |
| 01:22:43.39 | Unknown | And the second question is that you've got bike counts at station one. Is that the parking on Tracy Way? What is station one? |
| 01:22:55.19 | Unknown | Station 1 is the first one. As the bikes come in from their northbound coming into town and they hit the East Road, Bunker Road at Alexander. That's Station 1. It's a property owned by the Park Service, that little intersection. |
| 01:23:08.18 | Unknown | I see, just where Alexander hits coming into south. Okay, so the 15%, so you said there's a 15% of the total number that veers, What were you saying? They go in a different direction? |
| 01:23:27.16 | Unknown | 85% turn onto El Portal. They are on Bridgeway and they make that right-hand turn on El Portal. Another 15% just keep going. |
| 01:23:35.08 | Unknown | Going towards northern Sausalito. |
| 01:23:37.66 | Unknown | Yeah, for all we know, they go two blocks and come back in. We don't know that, but they seem to be heading on to someplace else. |
| 01:23:42.91 | Unknown | So if we look at the number then for 2016, so 2015, 48,000 bikes, and these are rental bikes, correct? |
| 01:23:53.69 | Unknown | There's only rental bikes. |
| 01:23:54.74 | Unknown | And 2016, 57,000, so adding 15%, we're looking at 65,000 roughly bikes that were kind of going, well no, total coming into Sausalito because even if they keep going, they're- |
| 01:24:12.56 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 01:24:12.64 | Adam Politzer | Oh. |
| 01:24:13.57 | Adam Politzer | . |
| 01:24:13.60 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 01:24:13.72 | Adam Politzer | Go to the previous slide. |
| 01:24:15.01 | Unknown | Do I have this wrong? |
| 01:24:16.29 | Unknown | Bye. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:24:17.08 | Adam Politzer | Do you want to go back to that or the other way around? Yeah. So that. |
| 01:24:17.10 | Unknown | you |
| 01:24:17.16 | Unknown | Yeah, so no, no, no. |
| 01:24:22.19 | Adam Politzer | Alexander Avenue Station one is counting the total number of rental bikes coming into Sausalito which is Keep going. Where's your station numbers? Yeah. So. |
| 01:24:33.41 | Unknown | $57,000 for 2016. |
| 01:24:37.06 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, so what the chief is saying is 57,000 come into town, 15% of those are |
| 01:24:40.18 | Unknown | It's 57,000. |
| 01:24:44.67 | Adam Politzer | continues forward and 85 percent returning on Alport Town. I see. Got you. |
| 01:24:48.20 | Unknown | I see. Gotcha. Okay. Gotcha. Thank you. We're not getting more bikes. That's the total. Okay. Okay. Good. Okay. Good. Thank you for the assistance, Adam. Yes. And do you have the numbers broken down by month? I mean, we don't need them here, but I'm just curious for my own. We have enough numbers. |
| 01:24:50.66 | Adam Politzer | got you. |
| 01:24:57.07 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:25:05.24 | Unknown | We have enough numbers to choke a horse. Oh boy. Just summarize for this and there will be more numbers at the season. Wonderful. They're counting a lot of stuff. |
| 01:25:07.70 | Unknown | Oh boy. Oh boy. Wonderful. So you're Yeah. And are you seeing what my my. What I'm seeing at least in southern Sausalito is that where we used to have these big crowds in the summer months We're actually having them more, you know through the spring and even in February depending on weather But I mean I'm seeing lots of numbers. Are you seeing a Are you still seeing that traditional, in addition to the traditional pop in the summer, are you also seeing- |
| 01:25:44.53 | Unknown | also seeing in the spring months we we believe that there's activity coming into town for you know president's weekend and spring break and you know and those type of things and you know so we wanted to certainly be prepared for those events, but we don't count in the same fashion because there's not enough numbers to support it. It's just a short snapshot of the spring break week or two or the President's Day weekend. |
| 01:26:15.20 | Unknown | You mean when you're looking at these numbers, you're not using the same counting methodology every month through the year? |
| 01:26:23.56 | Unknown | every month of the season, but not every month of the year. Yeah, there's no justification for putting people out to do counts in November. It's not enough people to make- Oh, okay. |
| 01:26:31.74 | Unknown | Oh, well, I mean, I'm seeing lots of Thank you. Like this past weekend, there were tons of bikes. So anyway, that's a good clarification. So this number of 57,000 just represents when you have people counting the bikes. |
| 01:26:39.39 | Unknown | And everything is |
| 01:26:40.23 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:26:40.25 | Calvin Chan | to the community. |
| 01:26:49.07 | Unknown | The particular slide is for July. So that's just July's number. |
| 01:26:49.43 | Unknown | So, |
| 01:26:52.85 | Unknown | you I'm not sure. |
| 01:26:53.26 | Unknown | And then the extra months of August and September. Can I jump in again? |
| 01:26:55.22 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:26:55.27 | Adam Politzer | Yeah. |
| 01:26:55.47 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:26:56.04 | Adam Politzer | Can I jump in again? I missed that, thank you. Because I think that Councilmember Pfeiffer and the chief are are missing what's on the slide so i think councilmember pfeiffer asked to see what the numbers were per month so you have a slide there that and it's in the staff report so the July number, which was where we started, was 57,000 came in. So that's the total month. So that's every day. That station one was staffed, which was basically in the month of July, seven days a week. Yeah, I got it, Adam. |
| 01:27:24.43 | Unknown | Yeah, I got it, Adam. I'm sorry I missed that. |
| 01:27:26.70 | Adam Politzer | But then August, there's the August number, and this is just for the record, so if you got this, I appreciate that. But $55,000 in August, so we go from $57,000 to $55,000. Then in September, we dropped down to $36,000, came in the month of September, and then you don't have October because we're not done. |
| 01:27:47.01 | Unknown | Wow, that's a lot of pikes. I was thinking it was for the whole year, but that's just for the month. |
| 01:27:52.96 | Jill Hoffman | Oh my goodness. So and to Council Member Pfeiffer's point, when we talk about the Sausalito Plus wrap up, whenever that's gonna be, and when you come back and give your annual report or the season report, we can talk about whether or not we need to staff, you know, weekends or we wanna put somebody up there to take counts on a more regular basis during the off season as well. I mean, that is a point well taken. So, but that's just a number, that's just a cost benefit analysis that we can talk about at that meeting. So any other questions? Yeah. |
| 01:28:25.09 | Unknown | Go ahead, Tom. On these numbers, so you say these are only rental bikes? We're only counting rental bikes. I would recommend that in the report. It doesn't state that, and even though I'm involved in it, it might be nice to know. And then my follow-on question to that is there are a number of bikes that come in. People may borrow bikes, and they're kind of doing the same trip as the rental bikes. Do we have any sense of how many of those might come to Sausalito Park, get on the ferry and go home, versus strictly rental bikes? Thank you. rental bikes, do we have any sense of how many of those might come to Sausalito Park, get on the ferry and go home versus strictly rental bikes? |
| 01:28:30.51 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:28:54.99 | Unknown | No, we really don't. Do you mix them together? |
| 01:28:56.38 | Unknown | All right, do you mix them together? |
| 01:28:58.03 | Unknown | rental is it no in order to get some consistency from month to month and for the people that are counting it the instructions are fairly straightforward we want them to to focus on the clearly apparent rental bikes so that no matter who's doing it and whatever month it is whatever day of the week it is the counting would be consistent if we started throwing in some of the other interpretive type of things that something might look like around a bike but they're not sure we didn't want to mix up our numbers and have it be that way or or run a second count So, |
| 01:29:28.17 | Unknown | Thank you. you |
| 01:29:28.69 | Unknown | So, |
| 01:29:28.96 | Unknown | It might be good to note that, because there are some other bikes besides rental bikes that do that type of thing and park down there. So it's just good to know what we're counting, what we're not. |
| 01:29:32.31 | Unknown | size rental bikes. |
| 01:29:37.32 | Unknown | When we did the presentation earlier this year, and I don't remember which month it was, that we had the Parisi counts and we had the 1.2 million bike count that was actually an extrapolation of the sampling that was done, and they did it by camera and then counting the footage afterwards. So there clearly is a lot more than that, and the number then was around 1.2 million bikes. total commuters and other types. And I think at that time in the report, the number of rentals hovered around a half a million or something like that. So there's a lot of numbers. |
| 01:30:15.52 | Jill Hoffman | Thanks. Any other questions? Thank you. |
| 01:30:19.69 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:30:19.71 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:30:19.79 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:30:19.81 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:30:19.84 | Unknown | you |
| 01:30:19.89 | Jill Hoffman | you |
| 01:30:19.94 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:30:22.73 | Jill Hoffman | Do you have a question? Okay, all right, public comment on this issue? Yes. Have you filled out a speaker card? Oh, very good. Then we'll let the speaker card fill up. Go ahead, no ma'am, you're next. |
| 01:30:42.59 | Erica Lovejoy | I'm going to put my glasses on before I get going here. Okay, thank you everybody. My name is Erica Lovejoy. And I really appreciate the opportunity to talk to you tonight about your bicycle enforcement program and I definitely realized that this system is imperative you know because you have so many bikes coming through the community but I represent another faction of the folks who are being targeted by this and that is I'm actually a resident of Mill Valley and my husband and I were recently found out about this enforcement program because we stopped when we commute we commute very early back and forth to the city and we stopped to have dinner in town and we we consider Sausalito our our sister community you know it's it's an extended part of our community and we utilize a lot of the services here so when we found our bikes locked up outside the restaurant, we were completely unaware of the ordinance, we did not see any signage at all and we were asked to pay money on the spot to get our admittedly very expensive bikes back. We were pretty bummed out to say the least. We paid the money and found out there was absolutely no legal recourse. And so that's one of the reasons why I'm coming here today. you all will take some suggestions into consideration if you do adaptive management for this program to help increase compliance. Also to help improve community relations because we felt pretty discouraged by this as we we spend a lot of money in this community We do support this community So with that, um, let me get to it since I only got three minutes. We believe that there isn't actually enough signage. We looked all over after the fact for signage. We didn't find anywhere except for tiny little stickers across the street. And so we would recommend signage similar to other parking enforcement, such as on the parking signs like you would for cars with limitations. That would be really helpful. Second, we'd also really appreciate being able to have a warning system in place. There are actually a lot of commuters and a lot of recreational cyclists who live in the Bay Area, who come here, eat, spend money, contribute to the tax base, and they aren't getting warned, like I've learned from the chief of police here of the system you have in place. They're not renting bikes. And so, boy, it stings. That $50 really stung when I have especially no recourse. Um, Warnings versus aggressive enforcement and education could be really beneficial with community relations, and so people come back and continue to support the community. Um, We're also really, really concerned about the on-the-spot impoundment. Now it's not clear if that's happening anymore. I'm not sure by the dialogue here. But, We were pretty shocked to have our very expensive personal property impounded from us and asked to put money on the spot, in particular with no |
| 01:33:28.99 | Calvin Chan | and |
| 01:33:32.79 | Erica Lovejoy | system in place to dispute the tickets. We question this practice, and we admittedly question the legality of being asked to pay money on the spot for our own personal property. It was deeply concerning to us. Last, we hope that there's... that there's actually some opportunities for free parking for folks when there is an equity issue, not just for folks who have kids, not everybody can pay for that. You've got a lot of service workers here. So just speaking for the larger community. And then we do hope there's just more community maybe a little more education for enforcement staff, so maybe they aren't so aggressive with the enforcement and more interested in that educational opportunity to improve community relations and improve compliance overall. |
| 01:34:18.25 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. Thank you for your comments. |
| 01:34:24.11 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. Next speaker, public speaker, Jeff. |
| 01:34:26.74 | Jeffrey Chase | I'll second that. Thank you very much. When I was here, when that ordinance was passed, there was a promise made that it would not be local bikes. And in fact, the last bikes that I counted, it was only local bikes that had been impounded. Number one. Number two, The chief promised $50 back to me and Lotus, I went there the next day. to get the money. and it said, come back when Stacy's there, that would be a week afterwards. I sent Lotus to do it. And now she had to come up with a fake statement. She's fed up, and so am I. I was tased. and charged with assault on an officer for no bike light in this community. I forgave that, as we're supposed to do on Kol Nidre before Yom Kippur. It is now in play again because of what you've done to seize the bites. I was charged with assault. I was put in solitary confinement. You can imagine how people are treated in jail. when they're charged with assault on an officer. Everybody knows in Sausalito that's not what I do. I had a bike light in my hand, I said, I have a bike light. Okay? The warnings are in red, very small letters, posted up to trees. So this is something that now I say God has come down because it's very difficult to deal with politics in 2016. All of this mishegas and all of these regulations and all of this destroying food, for a free feast of the most beloved restaurant going out of business and taking bikes that do not produce carbon output? that are much more valid, even for a person who's owned a gas station, Murphy who made the promise that it would not be local bikes. And that's exactly what it was. This is not designed to discourage local bikes. It has bicycles with slashes through it. Let's start counting the cars that come through this place and put the carbon into the upper atmosphere. Why don't we do that, chief? |
| 01:36:39.34 | Jill Hoffman | Excuse me, sir, sir, you're supposed to. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:36:41.93 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. All right. The good news was, all the hours Bye. Thank you. Thank you. Co-need dress, so anything that I said you |
| 01:36:49.93 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Any other public comment on item 6A? Seeing no one approaching the podium. Do we have any city council discussion on this? |
| 01:36:59.00 | Vice Mayor Withey | Yeah, I believe we have in place that if you live in Marin County, You are entitled to go into the area where we have the bicycle, the parking for bikes, show you your ID and you will not be charged. Is that correct? To my knowledge, that was put in place. |
| 01:37:26.07 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:37:26.10 | Vice Mayor Withey | Thank you. |
| 01:37:26.15 | Unknown | That's correct. Parking in the parking corral is free for Marin County residents. |
| 01:37:31.89 | Vice Mayor Withey | Thank you. |
| 01:37:34.14 | Jill Hoffman | THE END OF |
| 01:37:36.28 | Unknown | comments. I'd like to comment. I'd like to thank Chief Rohrbacher and his team, the police department, for an awesome job in implementing the impounding of the rental bikes and the enforcement. I think that's absolutely imperative to public safety. I have seen people in wheelchairs, people in walkers struggling to get through our sidewalks because of illegally parked rental bikes. So I want to thank the police department for their hard work on that. I mean, I know that this new program of impounding has certainly, I think, in my opinion, saved some injuries by the disabled, if nothing else. |
| 01:37:36.47 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 01:38:26.38 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:38:26.40 | Unknown | Yes, sir. |
| 01:38:26.79 | Jill Hoffman | Hold on. |
| 01:38:26.80 | Unknown | Hold on. the |
| 01:38:27.97 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, sir, I'm sorry, you're going to have to either be quiet or leave. So those are your two options, thank you. Council Member Pfeiffer. |
| 01:38:35.06 | Unknown | So in terms of the situation, the Mill Valley cyclists, it's unfortunate, I think it's unfortunate that right now our program is new. We're the ones up here trying to figure out the signage and everything in the process and what needs to happen. And I think it goes back to, I personally, The police department, the parking enforcement, they're doing their job. They're carrying out the policies that have been set forth for public safety. In terms of leadership of the council, I personally would like us to revisit the permit concept. That way we could have more bike parking spaces throughout town, like near Caledonia Street, et cetera, where people could park their bikes near a restaurant and they could go and eat. And it wouldn't be an area clogged with rental bikes. In other words, the parking wouldn't be clogged with rental bikes because it would be permitted. Of course, then you would have to get a permit to park. The permit would be free because you were a Marin resident and Sausalito resident or what have you mill valley and you could get that and it could be color-coded i've said this a lot i think there has to be some sort of solution for people who live here and ride bikes ride bikes as a means of commuting ride bikes as a means of transportation i have an electric bike and i use it for grocery shopping and stuff so you know i would like to see a permit i think it's hard to have to go downtown to one point of entry to park a bike and then walk all the way back down to Caledonia Street. But circling back to the rental bikes and the impounding, I think that's a success story. I think that if anything, I'd love to see more of that, more of the impounding of the rental bikes when they are blocking sidewalks and ruining our infrastructure because they're not parked where they need to be parked. Thank you. |
| 01:40:50.95 | Jill Hoffman | Any other comment from the city council? No? Okay. All right, so moving on then. |
| 01:40:55.90 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:40:56.01 | Calvin Chan | TODAY. |
| 01:41:00.15 | Jill Hoffman | Yes, we're going to take a break, and then we'll be back. Thank you. Thank you, Chief, for all your hard work, by the way. |
| 01:41:06.39 | Unknown | Thank you. You're welcome. |
| 01:41:11.66 | Susan Patterson | Thank you. |
| 01:41:22.40 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. Back on the record after a short break, and we're moving on to Item 6B on our agenda, Plan Bay Area 2040, comment letter to MTC A-Bag on draft preferred scenario, household and employment growth projections. And Danny is going to give us a short presentation. on this issue. |
| 01:41:43.53 | Danny Castro | Good evening, Mayor Hoffman, members of the Council. This evening is a presentation on, short presentation on the Plan Barrier 2040 from MTC ABAG in which they have released their household and employment growth projections into 2040. So in September 2016, the MTC, the Metropolitan Transportation Commission, and ABAG, the Association of Bay Area Governments, released their draft preferred scenario. This projects the regional household and employment growth in the nine-county Bay Area by the year 2040. MTC ABAG is accepting public comment on the draft preferred scenario, and staff has prepared a draft comment letter to MTC ABAG. Tonight, I am seeking the City Council's direction to send the comment letter to MTC ABAG by October 14th. The Plan B Area 2040 draft preferred scenario is a framework for accommodating projected household and employment growth. again, to 2040. Forms the foundation for Plan Bay Area 2040, which is a strategic update to Plan Bay Area 2013, done about three years ago. It meets the requirements of SB 375 and AB 32, the Global Warming Solutions Act. It's a long-range roadmap for transportation and land use planning in the Bay Area. It presents updated 25 year growth forecasts that reflects the region's growing economy over the past four years. It seeks to provide sufficient housing and reduce greenhouse gas emissions The draft preferred scenario, a few important things that the Planned Bay Area does not do. It does not mandate any changes to local zoning rules, general plans, or processes for reviewing projects. It does not establish RHNA, that's the regional housing needs allocation numbers for each city. RHNA operates on an eight year cycle, and with the next cycle starting in 2021. This update to the long range plan is limited and focused on households and jobs growth. And Sausalito maintains control of all decisions to adopt plans and to permit or deny development projects. Here is the Marin County numbers that were distributed with each of the jurisdictions in Marin County. And you'll see here Sausalito's numbers here. The projected growth for households is 350 by year 2040. Again, this is a 25-year plan. And then employment, it projects a forecast of 600 new jobs. |
| 01:44:38.04 | Danny Castro | The Plan Bay Area 2040, the methodology is it uses UrbanSim, which is this UrbanSim, which is an advanced regional land use model utilized by MTCABAG. That considers a range of information, parcel by parcel, and forecast likely development patterns. It builds upon the Plan B Area 2013 and there were a number of scenarios that building from 2013 to come to this strategic update of it. It considers the general plan of every city and county, considers local zoning, and considers other policies that impact maximum density. I've highlighted the last three bullets because I believe this is what sets the basis for our draft comment letter to MTC ABAG. |
| 01:45:28.04 | Danny Castro | THE CASE. We believe the forecast numbers are aggressively high and should be reduced. Sausalito's population of 7,156 in the year 2015 has shown an overall decrease in the last three decades and has been no greater than 7,300 since 1980, according to the U.S. Census figures. This population trend decrease is not consistent with the projected 350 new households with an average of 1.71 persons per household in Sausalito by the year 2040. The description of the methodology for the housing and employment forecasts states that local plans, that includes general plans, specific plans, and local zoning were considered. We do not believe that the development density, FAR and allowable intensity, limits as prescribed in the city's general plan, marineship specific plan, and zoning were factored into the employment projections. While the city has existing commercial office and industrial building development, the density, specifically FAR, building coverage, and height restrictions for any new development in Sausalito's commercial and industrial land use areas do not support the very high projected 600 new jobs by the year 2040. The city recently, as you are aware, conveyed over two acres of open space for conservation purposes. That's the Butte Street Lincoln open space area. to ensure that the land be maintained as natural open space in perpetuity. This residential land use designation is no longer, as it will be amended, to be open space designation. And this land area should be removed from the urban sim land use modeling, and the household projections adjusted accordingly to reflect this change or reduced. Sausalito maintains strong historic preservation policies and has established a historic overlay zoning district that encompasses the entire downtown commercial area. This represents Sausalito's early town development and strict rules apply to redevelopment of these historic buildings and its setting. We do not believe that the employment projections factor the development limitations within this commercial land use district overlay area. Sausalito is not designated as a PDA, which is a priority development area. However, we are concerned that the high forecast numbers distributed for Sausalito could be an error of the land use modeling because of the county in Marin and it is identified as a PDA, a priority development area. We request that these jurisdictional boundaries be closely examined and adjusted as necessary prior to consideration of the final pervert scenario, which is in November. In terms of other cities, I have been working with a lot of my colleagues in all the Marin jurisdictions. We have met with ABAG in terms of the projected numbers. Many cities are taking, well, I wouldn't say many, some cities are not producing a comment letter. But some, however, are. For example, Mill Valley, they believe their high job growth rates are just too aggressively high. San Anselmo has issues regarding their household and employment numbers, and are producing a letter indicating that they believe that the local zoning and their general plan were not being considered. I'm not sure. Novato has had comments throughout the process as well. I'm not certain that they have. They've literally been having, a lot of these jurisdictions have had their council meetings either Tuesday, Mostly on Tuesdays, but I haven't heard other than the cities that I've mentioned that are actually pursuing a comment letter at this time. So staff's recommendation is to review the draft comment letter and direct staff to make any revisions. And then I would send that letter to MTC ABAG by tomorrow. Now, We will be closely monitoring, and it is anticipated that there may be future opportunities to comment before planned Bay Area is finally adopted in the summer of 2017. And that concludes my staff report. Any questions? |
| 01:49:46.63 | Unknown | Thanks. Yes. I have a couple questions. Thank you, Danny, for that presentation. And my first question is, I know that there were different scenarios that were presented by MTCA Bag, and Sausalito's numbers didn't really change from what I could see across the different scenarios. However, it's my understanding the big city scenarios seem to yield the least impact overall in Marin. And so I was wondering if you could comment on that. |
| 01:50:29.07 | Danny Castro | Well, And I'm looking at some of the numbers from when Plan Bay Area 2013 was adopted and when there were some preliminary drafts of the scenarios that you speak about. The numbers that I show, though, are for are higher from the previous land use scenarios. |
| 01:50:51.40 | Unknown | For the big city scenario or for the preferred scenario or all of them? |
| 01:50:57.57 | Danny Castro | Well, the preferred scenario, but specifically for Sausalito. Sausalito's numbers were higher. |
| 01:51:02.74 | Unknown | Okay, so it's changed since, because I wrote a letter to them in July of 2016. And so the number went. |
| 01:51:11.29 | Danny Castro | both in household and jobs. Went up. Yeah, that's why some cities in fact are actually |
| 01:51:12.78 | Unknown | JOBS. |
| 01:51:17.76 | Danny Castro | feel a bit relaxed because the numbers were much higher. But there are some cities, like I believe Sausalito, where these numbers, I still believe, are not... indicative of employment or household growth. The numbers did go lower from the previous scenarios, though. |
| 01:51:34.63 | Unknown | Well, no, I thought it was 300 in July. Now it's 350. In fact, I talked to Pat Eklund, Mayor Novato, and she said that our numbers went up. I mean, since July. Anyway, it- I mean, I have a number of- |
| 01:51:43.32 | Danny Castro | Okay. |
| 01:51:48.37 | Danny Castro | It seems. I mean, I had a number of 354 in January and then 350. So not a big difference, but you could be right. Regardless, we believe these numbers are too high. |
| 01:52:02.24 | Unknown | Yeah, and so do you know if these numbers are higher or lower or the same in the big city scenario? Because we're looking at the preferred scenario. |
| 01:52:19.60 | Unknown | And just to clarify, the big, and Ray, you can jump in and add comment. It's my understanding the big city scenario steers more growth in the big cities, like San Francisco and Oakland. |
| 01:52:35.78 | Danny Castro | My understanding of this modeling was that the big city scenario had, were studied for its allowable intensity and those numbers were allocated accordingly. |
| 01:52:51.34 | Unknown | Yeah, but I guess my question, when I looked at this data back in July, they had a column that said preferred scenario, big city scenario, main street scenario, neighborhoods or whatever it was called scenario. And you looked across each scenario and you could see which scenario had the highest density for Marin overall and also for your city. And at the time in July, it was the same for Sausalito across everything, but overall Marin. |
| 01:53:01.03 | Unknown | Right. |
| 01:53:23.66 | Unknown | the big city scenario at that time in July had a lower hit. And I'm just curious, since the numbers have gone up for the preferred scenario, |
| 01:53:33.95 | Danny Castro | Correct. |
| 01:53:35.52 | Unknown | Is the number still, if it's gone up to 350 in the preferred scenario, I guess my question is, is it 300 now still in the big city scenario? Is it all the same? |
| 01:53:47.93 | Danny Castro | IT'S You know, I'm looking at a breakdown of every other city in Marin. |
| 01:53:55.35 | Unknown | The data in the staff report doesn't show the scenarios. It just shows the cities in Marin. |
| 01:54:00.09 | Danny Castro | Right. Thank you. because I focused on Sausalito. |
| 01:54:04.58 | Unknown | Yeah, I guess there's another part of this. It's actually very confusing and Plan Bay Area 1 was extraordinarily confusing and Plan Bay Area 2. Seems like they haven't learned. Because they haven't adjusted their numbers, in fact they've adjusted them higher and also From what I'm seeing here, it looks like they've just shared the preferred scenario as opposed to looking at the others. I have another question, but I'm going to let the rest of you ask. |
| 01:54:35.77 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:54:35.78 | Unknown | I don't know. |
| 01:54:35.97 | Jill Hoffman | I have a question. |
| 01:54:36.48 | Unknown | I have a comment. |
| 01:54:36.97 | Jill Hoffman | I mean, I'm looking at these numbers, and this is like the constant tension that we have with the state. And then... |
| 01:54:37.28 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:54:44.76 | Jill Hoffman | We're looking at these numbers for Sausalito. They're 600 growth, job growth. I THINK you know san anselmo has only 350 we're almost double you know we're double that um in another town fairfax 290. so when you look at the comparable towns in even in marine county we're way over that so I agree with sending the letter, and I agree with what's in the letter. I think we have a couple revisions, but I don't know if it's fine. |
| 01:55:17.53 | Unknown | Yeah, another question. In talking with people Pat Eklund, she said that there was a difference between households and housing units. I followed up to seek that clarification. Haven't received the answer yet. Were you aware that there is a difference? And do you have any insight into what that difference is? |
| 01:55:47.20 | Danny Castro | A bit, and it's a good question. I also tried to look for a very good definition for it, and I haven't found that. But I do believe that units are physical housing units. households are families. |
| 01:56:04.70 | Unknown | So I guess I don't understand. 350 households, does that mean it could be potentially more units or less units or what does that mean? |
| 01:56:14.45 | Danny Castro | I mean, it could be more units living in Sausalito, yes. |
| 01:56:15.68 | Unknown | It could be more units. |
| 01:56:23.60 | Unknown | So is there a formula we can use to say how many 350 households, how many units would that be? Because I mean, when we do, these numbers are going to filter through in the future to a future housing element. We're going to be left with having to accommodate those units. And so I just like to know how the households translate into units. So we can be real specific. |
| 01:56:48.39 | Unknown | I mean. |
| 01:56:55.41 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:56:55.42 | Jill Hoffman | Any other comments from the City Council? |
| 01:56:57.41 | Vice Mayor Withey | I'm sorry, Danny, I think you'll find out It's interesting when you mentioned, when it was mentioned about Ross, and San Anselmo or some other cities. If you look at the population in those cities, even though it's small, they've increased. Sausalito is the only city in Marin County, where it has gone down. |
| 01:57:20.26 | Unknown | I think. |
| 01:57:20.48 | Vice Mayor Withey | Thank you. Okay. Yes. |
| 01:57:23.99 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Any other comments before we go to |
| 01:57:26.03 | Unknown | for the next week. |
| 01:57:26.22 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:57:26.36 | Unknown | Thank you. Well, I have a comment for the letter, but I'll wait until we hear from the public. Okay. Go into... Okay, any public comment on this matter? Actually, I do have another question, but I'll wait still for public. |
| 01:57:39.57 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, any public comment? Yes? |
| 01:57:47.47 | Joan Cox | Hi, Joan Cox. A question and a comment. I think that the comparison to how other cities were treated is really important and A paragraph regarding that comparison should be added to the letter. of how inconsistent the treatment of Sausalito is when compared to comparable cities in Marin. that are trending. with increasing populations whereas Sausalito's trending has been decreasing. I also wanted to find out whether we plan to inquire about whether there are plans by ABAG slash MTC to designate Sausalito as a transit priority area. |
| 01:58:35.14 | Unknown | . |
| 01:58:35.95 | Joan Cox | So we know that Marin City is a PDA. Um... We know that. transit priority areas are designated because of the locus to transportation availability. which Sausalito you know, has in many forms. Think that would be a valid inquiry to find out if this projected growth is somehow related to a plan by ABAG or MTC to designate Sausalito as a TPA. Thanks. Thank you. |
| 01:59:15.60 | Jill Hoffman | PEOPLE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? |
| 01:59:20.03 | Unknown | I do want to correct something I said. I'm reading it says the draft preferred scenario combined the elements of the prior three scenarios released in early September 2016. So I guess this draft preferred scenario is a combination, I guess, of a blend of all the other ones. Okay. Any other videos? |
| 01:59:46.98 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:59:47.03 | Unknown | discussion. |
| 01:59:48.97 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:59:49.40 | Unknown | the |
| 01:59:49.76 | Jill Hoffman | Council member Freyfer, you had some |
| 01:59:51.24 | Unknown | edits for the letter. Yeah, I have some edits for the letter and also the question about, I'm so glad that Joan Cox reminded me, the TPA transit priority area was a big question I had. I attended the MCC MC meeting |
| 01:59:52.29 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 02:00:08.22 | Unknown | And, um, I listened to a presentation and one of the The challenges about the TPA is, there's this big designation, it has a lot of ramifications, but MTC and ABAC haven't specified which cities have TPA designation. So it's just like this big secret. So we definitely should include that, a reference of clarification of, is Sausalito a TPA, and by the way, we shouldn't be. And also a paragraph regarding Mayor Hoffman's comment about the The lack of rationale for Sausalito's high job growth and household growth numbers compared to the other cities in Marin. I'm looking at the first paragraph if everyone's got this item 6B attachment to page 1 of 2. Um, the recommendation was in the first paragraph, the fourth line down, It starts further study be done. We would change study to modification, further modification be done. to reduce or revise, but obviously we want to reduce, these forecast numbers, and then to insert, to reflect our experience and realistically possible growth. Any comments about those edits? And they were contributed by a resident who is really on top of this. So I was very appreciative of that input. And then on the third paragraph, the draft preferred scenario lists also as household number for Let's see. No, no, those are my notes. Skipping down to the bottom of page one, second bullet, last sentence. Employment projections, nor will they accommodate this level of development. So to give the whole context, description of the methodology for housing employment forecast states that local plans and our local zoning were considered. We do not believe that the development density far or low intensity limits as prescribed in the city's general plan, marine specific plan and zoning, were factored into the employment projections, nor will they accommodate this level of development. |
| 02:02:55.13 | Unknown | On page two of two at the top. Starting it says building development potential. Inserting the word potential after development. Okay, so those were, and then of course the addition of the inquiry regarding Saucido, whether a Saucido is designated a TPA, and if we are, we don't want to be. And the second one is the paragraph about the lack of rationale for sausages increased numbers, especially considering the lower growth projections for the other cities in Marin. |
| 02:03:41.28 | Jill Hoffman | Those are all acceptable edits to me. Anybody have a problem with that? OK. So with regard to those last two points, |
| 02:03:43.85 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:03:44.19 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 02:03:47.92 | Jill Hoffman | Because this letter is due tomorrow, do you want to submit actual edits or? |
| 02:03:52.32 | Unknown | Sure, I can do that. I mean, can I get an MS Word doc and then I'll just... I can do a track changes and send it back, and you guys can look at it. |
| 02:03:58.48 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:04:01.85 | Unknown | Can I make one comment though? Sure. I think all those edits all are fine. On the TPA issue, is there another way that we could find out whether we're a TPA rather than asking them? I wouldn't want to plant any ideas while they're looking at all their things. So, I mean, I might recommend that we not put it in the letter, but that we find another means to find them. There must be fairly easy ways. That's a good point. |
| 02:04:02.16 | Unknown | One comment, though. Sure. Make it easier. |
| 02:04:16.28 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:04:21.01 | Unknown | that there must be It says again my recommendation that's a good point. |
| 02:04:24.10 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Yeah. |
| 02:04:24.32 | Unknown | you |
| 02:04:24.37 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Yeah. Yep. On that note, I think it would be useful, Danny, to actually get a more general inquiry going about who has the authority and what is the procedure for designating TPAs. Because remember, people often get confused. A PDA was designated by the local jurisdiction itself. So it wasn't designated by the state or anybody else. But I don't know anything about the authority to designate a TPA. So it's not just about Sausalito, generally, how do you. |
| 02:04:57.68 | Unknown | It's not just. Right. The last MCCMC, my takeaway was that the PDAs were supposed to be voluntary by supposedly the people who live there, which didn't seem to happen in |
| 02:05:01.56 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | It's all about it. |
| 02:05:13.15 | Unknown | But, um, And then the TPAs are actually designations by my understanding, ABAG and MTC. |
| 02:05:23.09 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:05:23.63 | Unknown | Which is kind of scary. And it's my understanding that the definition of a TPA is, I guess, you have a transit coming every 15 minutes or something like that. So anyway, if it'll speed up your workload, I'd be happy to make a stab and send me an MS word. to send it to the |
| 02:05:43.65 | Jill Hoffman | Is that easier for you, Dana? Otherwise, I don't have to. To do the edits? To do the edits? |
| 02:05:44.86 | Unknown | Otherwise, I don't have to. |
| 02:05:47.41 | Jill Hoffman | You got him. |
| 02:05:48.74 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:05:48.76 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, great. You have the edits? Okay, cool. Including the last bullet for the lack of rationale for the numbers and the |
| 02:05:50.06 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 02:05:55.66 | Jill Hoffman | OK. |
| 02:05:56.12 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:05:56.15 | Jill Hoffman | Bye. |
| 02:05:56.20 | Unknown | I do have a quick question. |
| 02:05:56.81 | Jill Hoffman | I do have a |
| 02:05:59.51 | Unknown | I should have asked during question time, but it slipped my mind. And Danny, I don't think you've already heard my question, and Adam has heard my question. So maybe it's a comment. I guess I'm going to turn it into a comment, because I didn't get an answer, because it doesn't seem to have an answer. Back in 2012, when Plan Bay Area was first released, and I was looking at these insane numbers, and they were projecting 23% job growth in Sausalito, which was just insane. I mean, there was no history for it. There was no rationale for it. And, of course, they used the job growth to then drive the housing growth projections. And when I called ABAG and talked to him and said, Thank you. to then drive the housing growth projections. And when I called ABAG and talked to him and said, how did you get this? And they said that they had talked to city staff. They contacted city staff of all the cities and got estimates. So I emailed Adam, our city manager, and I said, what happened? And Adam, do you want to respond? Because I think you followed up with some of the staff members to find out. |
| 02:06:00.18 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Mm-hmm. |
| 02:07:14.26 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:07:14.33 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, we responded because Danny wasn't here and we actually reached out to Jeremy Gray. |
| 02:07:16.69 | Unknown | Yeah. It was before Danny's time. |
| 02:07:19.72 | Adam Politzer | Right, and we reached out to Chairman Graves and he responded saying that he had never been contacted by them, so we're not |
| 02:07:25.42 | Adam Politzer | That was the mystery. And I think I shared that with Councilmember Pfeiffer. |
| 02:07:28.64 | Unknown | So it was just weird that we would have this 23, I mean that's a huge number of job growth for Little Sausalito. And there's absolutely no rationale, no history of them talking to staff. They say they did. our staff says, what? There doesn't seem to be any trail on it. So I'm just seeing a lot of air under these numbers for Plan Bay Area. You know, I'm still, and then the SIM model, or the Urban SIM, it seems like they've taken the first Plan Bay Area numbers and just made them worse. And what's funny is the debrief on the first Plan Bay Area was that those numbers were way overblown and really far and above what they should have been. Even, you know, ABAC felt that way. It's my understanding. So how they came up with these higher numbers for Plan Bay Area 2, it's very sad because it's their opportunity to get this right, and they're getting it wrong again. |
| 02:08:36.53 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, any other comments? No? Okay, then moving on to our next item. Thank you, Danny. And moving on to our next item, Danny Castro. Up again to item 6C, survey results and appointment of a task force on building permit review process. And I understand you have another short presentation. . |
| 02:09:01.67 | Danny Castro | Good evening again. So this is a presentation on the survey that was conducted on the city's building permit review process. To hear feedback from applicants, contractors, homeowners, architects, regarding their satisfaction with the process or dissatisfaction with the process, the length of time, responsiveness of staff, likes and dislikes, and suggestions for improvement, and the overall rating of the process. I will be presenting the results of the survey. The survey can be used as a reference for a task force to review and assess the city's building permit review process, and identify ways to improve the process. The survey is in good timing, in that we will be implementing a new permit tracking software, which we're very excited about. This report also recommends the appointment of the task force, its purpose, and the makeup of its members. THE It's important to understand the Community Development Department's purpose and its mission. It is responsible for guiding the physical development of the city, including public and private building projects. ensuring that new development projects are consistent with our general plan and our zoning ordinance. All construction projects must meet and must conform with the California Building Construction and Fire Safety Codes. Tonight you just had an update presented to you on the Fire Safety Code. Other departments are involved with the concurrent review of the plans when someone submits plans to the city. whether it be a resident or an applicant or a contractor, They undergo plan check review. That receives review from planning and building, which is within my department, but also with public works and engineering, the sewer, and the fire department review these plans. and we're going to have a What this entails is that any comments or corrections on the first round of plan check get returned back to the applicant, and then the applicant resubmits plans for a subsequent round of plan check review. And once project plans are deemed complete and meet all the standards, then a building permit can be issued for the construction. THE Again, I say this is called plan check, what most people refer this to. The survey went out to 318 people last month. They were all applicants that we have on record who submitted for permits within the last three years. We sent a survey using SurveyMonkey. The survey was available for 30 days. 61 people responded to the survey, which is a 19% response rate. This is considered a good response rate, as this exceeds the typical response rate of 10 to 15%. For purposes of the survey, the building permit review process is the time from submittal of project plans for plan check review to the time that a building permit is issued. It does not include the time after you obtain the building permit and you undergo the construction. Thank you. until you receive your final certificate of occupancy or final sign off. That is not what the plan check time and what the survey represented. There were six questions that were asked, six questions that were asked, and I will go through each one. We had a question that asked what best represents your project, and they were the majority, up to 80% were alterations, remodels. This is very indicative of what is occurring here in Sausalito with some building additions, but majority were alterations and remodel work. |
| 02:12:57.87 | Danny Castro | We asked how satisfied or dissatisfied were you with the time it took to complete the process, from planchecks-the-middle to obtaining a building permit? 48% of the responses range from somewhat satisfied to very satisfied with the time it took to complete the process. 28% were very dissatisfied. and some in between. Was the city staff responsive to your questions or needs was the third question. 62% responded that staff were very responsive and extremely responsive to their questions or needs. 8% not responsive at all. |
| 02:13:42.61 | Danny Castro | The fourth question was a comment question in which you could put in comments as you please. And I could just stay on the slide because this is what you like most about the building permit review process. And I'll just give you a summary, but these are a summary of a lot of the comments. Our building inspector, Kenneth Henry, was just applauded left and right as being responsive, helpful, the best in Marin, nice, patient, and professional. That the staff at the counter have helpful attitudes and are very friendly. were prompt simple counter permit process. They like the new appointment scheduling that we've implemented. Staff is accessible, like the new office hours. Albert Viana, our permit technician, has made paperwork process easy. CSG reviews plans. CSG is our building services contract consultant, and that they review plans in a timely manner and respond to questions raised by me and is also flexible in their acceptance of response procedures. Quick response. Staff will work with you. So we go to what are your suggestions for improvement? Of course, there are a lot of, there's like three slides of this and I won't go through every one of them, but I'll just highlight a few that there should be better coordination between departments. honor the turnaround times. Outside plan check, so you'll find these are opposite from what you just heard. Outside plan check is sometimes very slow. It could be faster. Hire more people to get the work out the door. Do more over the counter permits, retain good staff. rein in the third-party plan checkers. This is our CSG. I'm not sure if we're going to Would like an option for over-the-counter. I think I mentioned that earlier. Speed up the public works and fire department. Um, Outsource all review of permit documents to outside consultants. That's how the private sector works, is one of the comments. More forms and information online Hire staff at Public Works, more over-the-counter again. Have an application to notify people when the permits are ready if they dropped off the plans. Create an automated online service where things can be submitted and progress can be checked. better tracking of permits through plan checks. I look at these comments and right away I think of our new permit tracking software. So I think this is going to be with implementation. There's going to be some hiccups, but I think once we get it fully implemented, we will be able to respond to those kinds of suggestions. Overall, how would you rate your experience with the building permit review process? This was our last question. And 60% rated an overall positive experience with the building permit review process. Yes, we do have some negative, and that's about 33% were somewhat negative or very negative. But honestly, I really thought that this was going to be a complaint fest when this went out. And I was very pleased with the results because it's very telling of how we can continue to do the good things that we are doing, and also look for ways to improve. Um, For the appointment of a task force, I think I've laid out what I think is the purpose, and that's to review the survey results, gain an understanding of the plan check review process, I think, honestly, I think as many people who are out there who are contractors and architects, do not really know what we do after we take the plans in and the level of work that undergoes. There, of course, time is money, and they would like their plans back. But I think it's really important to kind of understand that. on. examine ways to improve the process, and also introduce a new permit tracking software. Could be some of the items that this task force would be reviewing. My recommendation for the members is a total of eight folks, a city council representative, myself, a building CSG representative, because they are part of the city's plan check, we should have somebody representing from them. A representative from Public Works, it could be Andy Davidson, from FIRE, Fred Hilliard, who's willing to and up to three design professionals. I have Michael Rex as one of them, Dennis Webb, who I spoke to, and he is happy to be on this task force, and Tim Grogan, who's done a lot of work in town, and I've spoken to him about some complaints he had regarding the time process. I said, you know what, Tim, you'd be great to be on this task force. The timeline could be 60 days and report to the city council, or it could extend any length of time, perhaps even to the first quarter of 2017, when we've been able to implement the new tracking software and we can get a kind of a read of how that's working. That concludes my report. |
| 02:18:59.83 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thanks, Danny. Thanks and great effort on the survey. It cost us nothing. Thank you very much. Other than your time, but we hired no outside consultants. We expended no additional funds on the survey. This was sort of my initiative, this is an effort I think to sort of get a read on how we're doing with the community, which was the point of the survey, and then the follow up is have the task force and once again harness the expertise that we have in our community and build a bridge with the city about how to move forward most effectively with that department. So that's the thought of the task force. Do you guys have any questions or thoughts or comments? What? Thank you. |
| 02:19:46.85 | Unknown | I do have one. I noticed there's no planning commissioner on it, and it seems like that there should be. |
| 02:19:51.02 | Danny Castro | Or should be. Well, what? |
| 02:19:52.71 | Unknown | What? |
| 02:19:53.37 | Danny Castro | You know, the one thing is that this is specifically, unless we want to expand the scope of this, but this is not the development review public hearing process. Yeah. This is when you're submitting for. |
| 02:19:59.14 | Jill Hoffman | is not. |
| 02:20:02.65 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 02:20:05.20 | Danny Castro | construction plans in that timeframe. |
| 02:20:07.70 | Jill Hoffman | this is sort of the building plan process. |
| 02:20:09.25 | Adam Politzer | Yeah. |
| 02:20:09.30 | Danny Castro | I can't tell. |
| 02:20:09.69 | Adam Politzer | I WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE Councilmember Theodos and I met this morning and I was booked with meetings so I never got to Danny. But Danny and I did have this conversation when we were talking about this. And I understand Danny's perspective, so you know, I apologize for springing this on you now. But we also think that the Planning Commission receives the same complaints that the Council receives And even though it's not technically part of the process, we do think that it's part of the solution. So that was the only thing that Council Member Theodorus and I were talking about is, you know, to, and then it gives you a number of nine, which is nice to have an odd number versus the even number. So, you know, I was, |
| 02:20:51.60 | Calvin Chan | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:20:56.48 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. not able to get to you this afternoon to talk to you about it, but we would like your consideration and your feedback if you I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. |
| 02:21:06.30 | Danny Castro | uh, I'm neutral about it. I think it would be fine. |
| 02:21:08.82 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. Okay, me too. |
| 02:21:12.02 | Unknown | Anybody else? |
| 02:21:13.41 | Vice Mayor Withey | Thank you. |
| 02:21:14.03 | Unknown | All right. |
| 02:21:15.30 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:21:16.01 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:21:16.36 | Unknown | Thank you, Danny, for doing this. And I would, well, actually, we're not in comments, so I'm going to wait. I don't have a question. Well, actually, I do have a question. I concur with the Planning Commission, I guess, appointment. I guess my first thought when I looked up here is I don't see that resident voice, and I understand why. It's because the focus is on the permitting process and looking for efficiencies and streamlining. |
| 02:21:24.41 | Unknown | Well, actually, |
| 02:21:24.82 | Calvin Chan | THE END OF |
| 02:21:50.50 | Unknown | And I understand, too, that whatever they come up with with recommendations, it will come back to the City Council and Planning Commission, I would imagine, for vetting for any recommendations that come out so the public will be able to weigh in. Having said that, it seemed like having a resident voice, I mean, I guess it's just important when we're looking at efficiencies and streamlining the permit process. We want to make sure we're not cutting corners with respect to transparency, letting residents know what's going on, what things are being built. and the like you know changes that are made sometimes change the Planning Commission passes something and then there's a change or something and it's not necessarily vetted so can you weigh in on your your thoughts about do you think that the resident issue will be addressed if we have a Planning Commissioner there do you think the Planning Commissioner would be that that resident voice since they're the ones who hear from the resident or do you think there's a case for adding just a regular you know resident on the task force. |
| 02:22:56.63 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. If I could jump in here real quick. Dennis Webb, I believe, is a resident. Although he's a resident. |
| 02:23:01.12 | Unknown | Oh, I thought it was an architecture. |
| 02:23:02.76 | Jill Hoffman | He's a general contractor. Well, he's a. |
| 02:23:03.26 | Unknown | He's a contractor. |
| 02:23:05.25 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:23:05.36 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 02:23:05.47 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. Thank you. |
| 02:23:06.03 | Unknown | I guess when I say resident, I don't mean You know what I'm saying. I'm not saying someone who's a contractor or already in the trade. I'm talking about a regular average Joe who's not an architect and not a developer and, you know, |
| 02:23:11.01 | Calvin Chan | Thank you. |
| 02:23:11.03 | Jill Hoffman | I know. |
| 02:23:11.43 | Calvin Chan | Thank you. |
| 02:23:23.19 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:23:25.18 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:23:25.20 | Jill Hoffman | I kind of, here, let me jump in on that, too, because I think the planning commissioner, as Council Member Pfeiffer suggested, would give that perspective of the residents, but what we're really trying to do is drill down on some of the failure points in the planning department and the building department and address those, and I don't think... a resident just for the sake of resident would be helpful in that sense A resident who maybe has gone through the process, but we've tried to capture those. |
| 02:23:54.82 | Unknown | . |
| 02:23:54.90 | Jill Hoffman | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:23:55.22 | Unknown | I understand the logic. At this point. I agree. So just, go ahead. |
| 02:23:56.37 | Jill Hoffman | understand the logic. Bye. |
| 02:23:57.80 | Vice Mayor Withey | I agree. A residence kind of like a one-time deal where these people that would represent a task force are going through this process multiple times. And that's where you want that's where you want your expertise to come out of |
| 02:24:16.20 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:24:16.97 | Unknown | So, |
| 02:24:18.37 | Unknown | I WANT TO MAKE A QUESTION. IS THIS INTENDED TO BE A BROWN ACT TASK FORCE? BECAUSE THE REASON I SAY THAT IS, IF IT WERE, THAT WOULD WOULD ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO HAVE INPUT WITHOUT HAVING TO BE ON THE TASK FORCE ITSELF. |
| 02:24:30.31 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, we were thinking that it would be Brown Act, correct? Yeah. |
| 02:24:30.32 | Unknown | Thank you. I think it is. |
| 02:24:36.41 | Jill Hoffman | With notice and minutes and agenda. I think it should be. |
| 02:24:37.34 | Unknown | I think it should be. Yeah, it's a good point, Tom. I think it should be a Brown Act. And also, |
| 02:24:48.75 | Unknown | the output of this task force, any recommendations, they would come back for vetting, for public vetting, right? In other words, they wouldn't just be implemented. They would come back for vetting in a public space with the city council and the planning commission. Am I making that assumption? |
| 02:25:07.18 | Danny Castro | Am I making that assumption? I see this task force as coming back to the city council, either periodically or at one point when they feel they've. They've kind of gone through all these tasks and reviewed survey results, looked at the way our practices and perhaps suggesting implementation of some of these process changes. |
| 02:25:29.40 | Jill Hoffman | OK, good. Okay. Do we have any public comment on this issue? |
| 02:25:41.50 | Vice Mayor Withey | You've been quiet all night, Michael. |
| 02:25:44.13 | Michael Rex | Hi, Michael Rex. Yeah, I wanted to first thank Stafford sending out the survey and asking the question. It's great to check customer service once in a while to see if the customers are happy. And I'm particularly pleased to see it seems like the customers are happy. There's good reasons for that. I think our new staff and the new regime here has added a new level of professionalism that shows and is demonstrated by the response. I also, myself and my staff, because we deal with this business at hand daily, we really like CSG. Very professional, very responsive. We just think they're terrific. We're pleased to see that farmed out. It really has sped up the process and made it smoother. and this new tracking software is really going to help. It will give us an idea of where we're at without having to bother staff. Those are some positive comments. On areas where we see possible improvement, first of all, I asked my staff to respond to the survey. I think they did because they're actually more in the lead in dealing with plan check comments and process than I am. But I hear the scuttlebutt. And what I'm hearing from my staff is that we get through CSG really quickly, but then it gets bogged down within the city departments. We can wait a long time to get a response from the various departments, and's like herding cats you gotta you know there's there's fire and Department of Public Works and engineering we really get bogged down in engineering I know you're understaffed for a long time and you've staffed up some but we still see things the slowest department to respond is engineering and we also see once everybody signs off It can take several weeks to actually issue the permit, and we haven't figured out why. It can take two weeks just to do a round robin to get all the signatures. I personally have gone around to get them myself to try to save those two weeks. That seems like one of the easiest things that could speed it up. So those are some suggestions, and I'd be happy to serve on the task force in fact I'm honored to be asked and I can offer I think some more feedback similar to what I just did. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:28:21.58 | Jill Hoffman | Great, thank you. Any other public comment? Yes, I see Ms. Cox approaching the podium. |
| 02:28:27.80 | Joan Cox | I wanted to relay one comment that planning commissioners have heard that was not picked up by the survey, because the survey, I think, was disseminated to applicants and not to neighbors. And an issue that we hear a lot about is the lack of transparency for neighbors in knowing what's going on. A lot of times they first hear a project when they see the story polls, but even after they see the story polls, they don't have access to the staff report until when we do, which is the Friday before the Wednesday, that it's going to be heard and that often doesn't give them time, especially unsophisticated people who take time, who don't do this every day and who it takes them some time to wade through. the over 100-page staff report, you know, that Friday to Wednesday timeframe doesn't give them a lot of time to marshal and summarize their thoughts. And what ends up happening is we get scads of late mail on the dais from neighbors who are seeing things for the first time the Friday prior to the Wednesday hearings. So, a a possible thought for a process improvement. There was transparency discussed in terms of applicants knowing the status as the project is going along. That was in the survey. But something that would also be helpful is some mechanism for neighbors to know what's going on. |
| 02:29:54.41 | Jill Hoffman | Thanks. Good thought. Any other public comment? Seeing no one else in the room. Yes. Comment here. |
| 02:30:04.40 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | THE END OF |
| 02:30:05.24 | Jill Hoffman | Uh, That's right. |
| 02:30:07.42 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | I've... I know a lot about this process and have thought through this process a lot. So first of all, I think Joan's comments are right on when it comes to the design review, you know, the process the Planning Commission does. we need to make clear that I think we're only talking about the building permit process here that this task force is going to do, right? So... It seems to me there's really two issues that have emerged and I agree 100% with Michael. One issue I don't think is. fair. And the other issue has been, I think, due to various circumstances. That has been the case. The first one is CSG. I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF The building code, there's no discretion around the building code. You can't sort of make a decision to ignore something just because, you know, you just can't do that. The city would take on enormous liability if it started to try and ignore the building codes. I mean, that's when decks collapse, that's when people die. You know, so there is no discretion there, or very little. I think Michael would agree, Danny would agree with that. And so the only question is whether, you know, we have the right, whether every project should be farmed out, for instance. So the question is, if there is a thing to ask about CSG, is does every project go there or not? So that's question number one. I'm not offering an answer. That's why you have a task force. But the second thing which I hope in the contract, the software will help improve is There's obviously bottlenecks as it gets shuffled around the departments. I've seen it happen because one department's really busy and some of these building permits 200 pages thick. You know, with detailed drawings, they've got to go through every single one. And that can take a lot of time. My worry is that don't just rely on the permit tracking software. You've got to have the commitment that in a particular department, it's going to become a priority. Just because it's on a screen with an electronic software doesn't solve the problem. If public works, I don't want to pick on them, or engineer or someone doesn't go to the screen and actually you know, do it. So those are the comments. Make sure we know what we're studying here. And... Maybe let's find out how many jurisdictions use CSG. Are there competitors, you know, for instance? |
| 02:33:17.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:33:17.72 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 02:33:17.73 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:33:17.93 | Councilmember Pfeiffer | Thank you. |
| 02:33:18.86 | Jill Hoffman | Thanks, any other comments? |
| 02:33:21.21 | Unknown | So, I'm going to go. |
| 02:33:21.28 | Jill Hoffman | you |
| 02:33:21.51 | Unknown | i'll say something really quick which is um the sticky parts that i've seen with regard to the building permits is that after they've been issued uh when the product is not what the building permit you know um says and i've seen you know mistakes where it's you know kind of go that's where things sticky, I think, with residents. I know this is outside of the purview of this task force, but maybe after this task force, maybe that could be enforcement. Thank you. Okay. |
| 02:33:56.11 | Jill Hoffman | Tom? |
| 02:33:56.38 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:33:56.46 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:33:56.48 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:33:57.03 | Jill Hoffman | Comments? Okay. Well, I'm pleased with the survey. Thanks, Danny, to you and your staff for getting it out and giving us the responses. I'm pleased with the responses as well. You know, there were a lot of positive shout outs to people, especially Kenneth and also Albert got some, you know, positive comments. So I'm very pleased with that, too. And so I see this as an opportunity for us to move forward sort of into the next generation of service in this town. And as I said, I like to harness the expertise and enthusiasm of our residents and our community for a little monetary output from the city. SoPUT FROM THE CITY. SO I THINK THIS IS REALLY GREAT. SO I'M GOING TO PROPOSE THAT WE FORM THE TASK FORCE IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS. OKAY. AND THAT DO ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO VOLUNTEER THAT PERHAPS MIGHT HAVE SOME EXPERTISE IN THE AREA. YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD, BUT YOU KNOW SO MUCH. YOU KNOW SO MUCH. TOM?ANT TO DO THIS. I WANT TO DO THIS. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SERVE ON IT. I DON'T HAVE ANY EXPERTISE IN THIS. WE'VE DONE ONE LITTLE REMODEL PROJECT ON OUR PORCH. YOU CAN THINK ABOUT IT. |
| 02:34:55.34 | Unknown | Well... |
| 02:35:07.15 | Jill Hoffman | You can think about it. All right, I'm going to come back to you. So Danny and the CSG, I like this. I like all your proposals. Planning, commission, yes. We can canvass that group as well to see who wants to serve on. And then let's set a timeline. Let's try to come back in 60 days. with an initial meeting at least one or maybe two. Is that too aggressive? Yes? Adam has his hand up. Adam has his hand up. Yes, Adam. |
| 02:35:34.81 | Adam Politzer | I THINK IT WILL BE A LITTLE two or three meetings to kind of get through the meat of this. I think they want to review the comments. I think they need to hear from each of the departments on what their system is. I know that Danny and Jonathan have already spent quite a bit of time I'm trying to look for solutions and then obviously the information that we received was helpful. But also we only have four council meetings left and one of them is more of a celebration. |
| 02:36:03.28 | Jill Hoffman | I'm sure you are. You're right, you are. So January or February? |
| 02:36:05.71 | Adam Politzer | January or February. |
| 02:36:07.92 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, January, February timeframe, you'll come back, and we'll staff up the rest of the people on the task force in the next few weeks. Okay, all right, thanks. Very well. Moving on to our next city manager reports. |
| 02:36:28.24 | Adam Politzer | Sorry, Madam Mayor. |
| 02:36:29.42 | Jill Hoffman | Uh-oh. |
| 02:36:30.60 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:36:31.00 | Adam Politzer | I think unless you want to wait till the 25th for someone up there to volunteer, and I think you're looking from you to Ray and Herm. |
| 02:36:36.42 | Unknown | Thank you. Okay. |
| 02:36:39.00 | Vice Mayor Withey | that way. |
| 02:36:40.70 | Adam Politzer | especially if you want us to start meeting now it'd be helpful if if um one of the three of you would volunteer |
| 02:36:48.23 | Jill Hoffman | Look, Ray's nodding his head yes. Excellent. Thank you, Ray. So Ray is nodding his head. took his step back later than everybody else, and is now the nominee. Thank you, Ray. Excellent. Thank you so much. I know. Okay, now moving on to our next section. We're on to section, and we're ahead of schedule. City manager reports. City manager information for the council. |
| 02:37:18.39 | Adam Politzer | Yes, we're ahead of schedule, so I'm going to help keep us ahead of schedule, but I'm going to give you a little bit of information here. Obviously, at the last meeting, the mayor and I both gave a brief update on RBRA. We are planning on having the chief give a presentation at our meeting on October 25th, which will also include the enhanced enforcement proposal and budget, strategy and budget that we're going to be bringing forward at the November 10th RBRA meeting. So October 25th, we'll give you a full update on the enhanced enforcement program that's going to be recommended to the RBRA board. And then we can also talk about a lot of the other that that we've given you bits and pieces since the last time the chief and lieutenant Frost have been here to update you so that item I would imagine will potentially take a considerable amount of time and may also draw a lot of public interests and public comments. So that will be on the 25th. there's a handful of things that are important. You've seen a lot of the street work that's going on here in town as part of the street pavement project that the council approved, and that will be coming to an end at the end of the month, depending on the weather, not interrupting much of the last activity that's going on. But the project's gone fairly well, and we haven't received much comment from the community other than thank you for the areas that are being touched the Public Works Department is working on the RFP for the next round the street projects that will bring to council in January and that will start that will be going out and doing the next round of street improvements. And the direction that Public Works has received is every dry season, we're paving streets. And the budget obviously is set up to pave streets, and you received a report several months ago, kind of looking at a multi-year street resurfacing program. But before we pave any new streets, we bring it to the council, make sure that you know what we're doing, what we're spending, and give the public the opportunity to weigh in. And so that will come to you probably in the second meeting in January as we look to the spring and summer for the next pavement program. Same with storm preparation and storm drains. You'll start seeing in the currents. And again, please encourage people to sign up for the currents. We've gotten a lot of positive feedback on the new format that's now over a year old. But it is a great source of information, especially when we start talking about the storm season and be able to provide the public with a lot of information and turning in including contact information for emergency services including PG&E. So you'll see a story come out probably every Friday going forward on tips on how to prepare for the storm season and we are We've already started preparation on the storm that's coming tonight and into tomorrow morning. We think the bigger surge will arrive tomorrow around 10 o'clock. But also as we get into later into the winter season, the combination of storms and king tides are very dangerous and obviously create flooding, significant flooding, if that combination hits at the same time. So please encourage people to sign up for the currents if they're not. My understanding is we're roughly around 2,400 folks are signed up for current, so that's terrific. But we obviously would like to continue to increase that. Debbie and Abbott Chambers are both managing that while Lily is on maternity leave. And at our last staff meeting, we're talking about our own internal way to do a currents drive, try to look at ways to give incentives and some fun things to draw people's attention to the currents. So you might see some of that at various events and locations throughout town. Halloween is around the corner, and obviously every year we have a different setup with the council. Sometimes the council does it all together. When there's an election, there's times when council members have their own table. Since we don't think, we understand and believe we're not going to have a contested election, so it would be nice for our five council members to work together at one table and hand out candy and all the other fun things that we do and I can still understand if the other two council candidates, Joan Cox and Joe Burns, would like to have their own table so people can get to meet and greet them. But we welcome any collaboration of our council members and if you have different opinions of that i'm sure that mike and julie would would entertain other options if you have some other creative thoughts of your own but reminder that halloween is around the corner and once halloween arrives you know thanksgiving and the rest of the holidays sneak up on us very very quickly the end of the year comes quickly. Last on my list here is MCC MC and Tiburon is on the 26th Wednesday the 26th in Tiburon and they've asked for RSVP so if you haven't RSVP'd please do they've asked the RSVPs to be received by the 17th and a reminder this is the combination with the school districts and so there's a bigger group of elected officials there from the schools, and that is one of the reasons why they need everyone to RSVP to make sure they have enough seats for all folks. Obviously, we're in a unique situation in Sausalito when it comes to schools because we obviously have a very controversial discussion going on at the school district. We had them here at our last meeting. I thought that was very helpful. I met with Will McCoy earlier this week to follow up on building and strengthening our relationship with the district. You know, I'm reminded to the council and to the public, we've had a lot of interim superintendents over the last two years and probably even further back than that when you include Valerie Pits, who was also interim, but she was there for a considerable amount of time. And so the relationship between the city and the district has faded. And a reminder to the council, and I don't know if Herb if council member Weiner or council member Pfeiffer Were on the council when we actually had joint dinners with the district and And we would have an annual dinner with the school board and the city council to look at where we have some common values and common goals. And I mentioned to Will that might be something that we start back up once the elections are over, once the new superintendent has got his feet firmly on the ground, and once they're moving forward on issues, really focus, in my opinion, on Bayside MLK and how they bring and elevate the performance at Bayside MLK forward. So just food for thought there for the council as we look to the new year. That concludes my report. Happy to answer any questions at the Council. |
| 02:44:52.53 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thanks. Any questions for any public comment on Adam's reports? Seeing none. Moving on. Appointments. Oops, did I skip anything? Appointments, boards, and commissions. These are next. Wait, no, wait, hold on. |
| 02:45:08.73 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:45:11.06 | Jill Hoffman | I think I skipped something. I'm good. OK. Where's my agenda? Yeah, council member report. Sorry, thank you. Thank you, Tom. Do we have any council member reports? I skipped item 7B, now we're talking about item 7B. Council member reports, anybody? Thank you. No? Okay, moving on now, moving on to item 7C, appointments to boards and commissions. We had one in our packet. Do we need to make this appointment tonight? Have we interviewed this person? |
| 02:45:45.55 | Debbie (City Clerk) | you |
| 02:45:45.63 | Vice Mayor Withey | Thank you. |
| 02:45:45.80 | Debbie (City Clerk) | Thank you. |
| 02:45:46.22 | Jill Hoffman | We did. |
| 02:45:46.71 | Debbie (City Clerk) | You interviewed her in June. |
| 02:45:49.36 | Jill Hoffman | that we're going to be able to do that. |
| 02:45:50.44 | Debbie (City Clerk) | very good. |
| 02:45:53.99 | Vice Mayor Withey | They'd sell for you. |
| 02:45:54.98 | Jill Hoffman | is for the BAC. |
| 02:45:57.38 | Vice Mayor Withey | Yes, yes. |
| 02:45:58.15 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 02:45:59.52 | Vice Mayor Withey | And I think we need the one on HLB too. |
| 02:46:02.20 | Jill Hoffman | Mm-hmm. We do, but tonight we have Maya Markowitz for Business Affairs Committee. All nominators, anybody? Second. Okay. All in favor? Aye. Very good. Congratulations to Ms. Markowitz. She's now on the Business Affairs Committee. Any public comment on appointments to boards and commissions? I'm not sure if I can. |
| 02:46:16.82 | Unknown | Second. |
| 02:46:17.39 | Calvin Chan | Thank you. Aye. Very good. |
| 02:46:39.06 | Unknown | Yeah, I have just a couple. One is I think we should revisit or actually visit a policy not to discuss topics not on the agenda during city manager's reports. Do you want me to repeat that? Again, to visit a policy not to discuss topics on the agenda, not listed on the agenda during the city manager's report. The reason I say that is I think we've been pretty good through the years, you know, minimizing questions that we might have for Adam when he gives this report. I think we got a little bit too across that line, I think, at the last meeting with the RBRA discussion. And I know that the Marin Board of Supervisors has gotten in trouble with a lawsuit that was a successful lawsuit when they they did that and i want to make sure that we don't get in trouble with that um and with the brown act and i think it's it's important okay um the other thing is i think we should uh implement or visit implementing a free parking permit program for bikes for commuter and resident cyclists throughout town. That speaks to the earlier topic we had on the rental bike issue. Third one is review aggressive taxi hawkers at the ferry landing. Perhaps a policy about that. I mean, I have seen some pretty aggressive hawkers that go right up to the cyclist standing in line and try and pull them away at outrageous, I mean, $60 a pop. |
| 02:48:32.80 | Vice Mayor Withey | Yeah, right now the policy is that if a taxi cab driver leaves his cab unattended for more than five minutes, he's subject to a ticket. |
| 02:48:45.11 | Unknown | I didn't have a stopwatch on this one, but this was, I mean, I don't know if it was five minutes, but it was definitely very aggressive. He was, you know, I mean, he was hawking business right in the lines and in my opinion, not sharing the schedule of the ferry to let people know that another ferry would be coming that they could potentially take instead of spending $60 to get back in time on his taxi. |
| 02:49:13.47 | Jill Hoffman | I'm just going to... |
| 02:49:13.97 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 02:49:14.06 | Jill Hoffman | . |
| 02:49:14.14 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:49:14.75 | Unknown | We just had a suggestion that for Brown Act purposes, we shouldn't be discussing this. That's right. I mean, so I think we should honor that. |
| 02:49:19.35 | Unknown | Right. I want to move on. I want to move on, thank you. Another one topic is remove anchor outs from Sausalito waters. And the last one is reject The South Gateway a plan regarding the bikes in Hurricane Gulch. I don't know what it's called, Adam. I think it's the South Gateway Plan. |
| 02:49:51.53 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:49:52.89 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:49:52.97 | Jill Hoffman | So, thanks. Okay, any other future agenda items, suggestions from the council? WE'RE NOT DONE YET. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON FUTURE URGENT ITEMS? SEE NO ONE? OKAY, SO I'M ASSUMING THERE'S NO MORE COUNCIL DISCUSSION OR DIRECTION. OTHER REPORTS OF SIGNIFICANCE. ANYBODY? GOING ONCE. OKAY. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON OTHER REPORTS OF SIGNIFICANCE? SEE NONE. OKAY, WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. Okay, 45 minutes. |