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| 00:00:00.17 | Susan Patterson | Bye. |
| 00:00:01.03 | Unknown | Sorry. |
| 00:00:02.04 | Marty Rausch | Oh, there we go. |
| 00:00:03.04 | Unknown | All the love I could steal, beg or borrow. |
| 00:00:09.31 | Marty Rausch | you |
| 00:00:10.12 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:10.16 | Marty Rausch | So |
| 00:00:10.58 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:00:11.05 | Marty Rausch | And I kneel on the pain |
| 00:00:15.03 | Kelly Darling | My soul What is love That I'm really |
| 00:00:28.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:31.98 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:00:37.81 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 00:00:40.62 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Okay, good evening everybody and welcome to the City of Sausalito regular city council meeting for Tuesday, September 25, 2018. I will call the meeting to order and ask Serge please call the roll. |
| 00:00:54.27 | City Clerk | Councilmember Withey? Here. Councilmember Cleveland Knowles. |
| 00:00:57.79 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | here. |
| 00:00:58.64 | City Clerk | Councilmember Hoffman. |
| 00:00:59.94 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Here. |
| 00:01:00.76 | City Clerk | Vice Mayor Burns? Mayor Cox. |
| 00:01:03.97 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | here. Habit Chambers, will you lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance? |
| 00:01:13.07 | Unknown | I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. |
| 00:01:13.25 | Unknown | to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible. with liberty |
| 00:01:24.83 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | that's just the best. |
| 00:01:30.62 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | We held a closed session this evening, there are no closed session announcements. Is there any public comment on our closed session items? Seeing none, I'll move on to approval of the agenda. May I have a motion? |
| 00:01:44.35 | Ray Withey | So moved. |
| 00:01:45.25 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Second. All in favor? Aye. That motion carries 5-0. |
| 00:01:47.12 | Ray Withey | I. |
| 00:01:50.14 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Next on our agenda is special presentations, and the first presentation is an announcement from me. that I want to make about a recent accomplishment. So we have recently entered into a settlement agreement with the National Park Service regarding future potential Fort Baker Ferry service. We provided you a report on this some time ago, so I just want to provide you some background and tell you the resolution. So in December of 2017, Sausalito objected to the content of a a CEQA document called a mitigated negative declaration that was issued by the National Park Service for the Alcatraz Embarkation Project. The overall project involves the improvement of Pier 31 and a half in San Francisco to support the Alcatraz Ferry. AND I THINK IT'S A A component of the project is possible future ferry service to Fort Baker. As described in the CEQA document that was issued for the project, that possible future ferry service to Fort Baker is limited to two round trips per day on weekends only. However, the underlying agreements between the National Park Service and the city and county of San Francisco did not match what was set forth in the CEQA document. And actually posed no limits on the potential ferry service to Fort Baker. So, left unaddressed, service to Fort Baker could expand well beyond two round trip two round trips per day on weekends with no further review of the environmental impact under CEQA. And consequently, no further opportunity for the city of Sausalito to weigh in or object. We were therefore placed in the unenviable position of appealing The... issuance of the mitigated negative declaration to the San Francisco Planning Commission and to the San Francisco Board of Supervisors to avoid any adverse impacts to Sausalito from possible future Fort Baker Ferry service. I'm happy to report that action taken by the San Francisco Port Commission and the San Francisco Board of Supervisors this afternoon. specifically limits the Fort Baker Ferry service to the limited weekend service described in the environmental document. So this addresses our immediate concerns. In addition to prevailing upon the authorizing agencies to change the project description, the city of Sausalito and the National Park Service also negotiated a memorandum of understanding between them in which we agreed to work together to mitigate any adverse impacts from ferry service from Pier 31 and a half in San Francisco to Fort Baker. Under the MOU, the National Park Service has agreed to meet and confer on the details of any proposed service whenever that may happen. And any potential expansion of that service and any adverse impacts on Sausalito. We've also agreed to discuss allowing passengers, including passengers with bicycles, to purchase one-way tickets from Fort Baker to Pier 31 1⁄2 in San Francisco. This added service would alleviate congestion on weekends at Sausalito's Ferry, and improve regional transportation for residents and visitors. The National Park Service has also agreed to consider using the northbound Alexander Avenue Highway 101 on ramp if the National Park Service proposes to offer transportation services at Fort Baker to Muir Woods or other destinations. So we are very pleased to enhance our commitment to sound regional public transportation planning in the future through regular consultation with the National Park Service. And we extend our gratitude to the National Park Service, to the County of Marin, to Senator Jared Huffman, to the Board of Supervisors, to the Port Commission, and to all of the stakeholders who collaborated with us to reach this mutually agreeable outcome. All right, next mayor's announcement is introduction of Southern Marin Management Academy graduates by Susan Patterson. This is one of our favorite things to do. |
| 00:06:15.21 | Susan Patterson | Thank you Mayor Cox, Vice Mayor Burns, and council members. Those of you who know me don't know me. I'm Susan Patterson. I am the HR manager for the city of Sausalito. And I am also the coordinator of the Southern Marin Management Academy. And this year, once again, I stand before you with another successful year. This is our sixth year, bringing a total of 36 city employees who have graduated from our Southern Marin Management Academy. That's just shy of half of all of our city employees, full time benefited employees. Out of those 36, 12 have had internal promotions with our city. So every year, particularly this year, I try to bring in new speakers and keep it fresh and enlightening and I bring back the speakers that are most favored, but also I gear the speakers kind of around those in our new class. And those based on their experience and their history and their governmental background. So I just want to give you an idea of the speakers I brought in. So, we did one with leadership and vision, again, I brought back Jason. Womack, he's been a favored speaker every year and also starts our academy. Every year is the best speaker. We do strategic management, financial management, workers' compensation and risk management, public meetings 101. Favored speaker, thank you, is Mary Wagner and Lily Whalen come in to do the presentation. And always very, very great high marks and asked to return each year. This year, I brought in Brian Sobel from Sobel Communications. You may know him, he's an anchor with KTVU. And he came in to do a special on communicating with the media and communicating with one another, which I think in our times is very, very important. I also brought in a new speaker, Hannah Stalmokovic, who is with Public Engagement Program Coordinator, and she's with ILG. And I think most of you are familiar with the Institute of Local Government. And in the end, we always have our speaker, Kate Spears, who comes in to address our graduating class. This year, our participants were the city of Sausalito, city of Larkspur, city of Mill Valley, Southern Marin Fire Protection District, town of Corte Madera, town of San Anselmo, and the town of Tiburon, with 22 participants. So one other I would like to thank, Chris, you're here. I always want to thank you for letting us use the EOC. It's a perfect place for our Management Academy. For the last three years, I've done a poll with all the participants, and they all want to keep it where it is. We look to move it and make it more central Marin. No one wants to go there. Everyone wants to come to Sausalito, to our EOC. So thank you. With that, I would like to introduce our graduates. I have three here that would also like to say something to you. And with that, I have Serge Avila. Administrative aid with the city. Bryant Ho, who's our Assistant Civil Engineer. Natalie Poston, our record supervisor and assistant to the chief of police. |
| 00:09:36.68 | Susan Patterson | Jason Finch, landscaper two, could not make it this evening, as well as Corporal Padilla, who had a previous commitment. And Eric Graham also could not make it tonight, who's our maintenance worker. Brian Vila, who also attended the academy, could not make it because as you know, Danny moved. But he wanted me to share and say thank you for the opportunity. So Serge, would you like to say something? |
| 00:10:06.08 | City Clerk | Good evening Mayor Cox and council members, members of the public. Management Academy was a big inspiration for me. Every meeting and all of the speakers brought new ideas, new challenges. Some of the interesting sessions that I took away was on budgeting and creating staff reports. As I continue to develop my career here in South Salido, these are the skills that I find important. My hope is that Management Academy continues to grow and I encourage all of the employees to take advantage of it. Thank you very much. |
| 00:10:46.51 | Bryant Ho | Thank you, Mayor and Council members. My name is Bryant Ho, and I took the Southern Marin Management Academy for the past eight months here with Sausalito. One of the big things that I learned, I guess, is that it gave us an opportunity to speak candidly with other members of city government and other different agencies. And I really appreciated that. It helped. It just helped me. of city government and other different agencies. And I really appreciated that. It helped, it just helped me get a different perspective of what other agencies are going through and how local governments need to have relationships with each other. I'm definitely going to recommend this class to my colleagues here at Sausalito and hope that they get the opportunity next year. Thank you. |
| 00:11:38.03 | Susan Patterson | Thank you. Are there any questions? Great, once again, thank you and I look forward to many more management academies. |
| 00:11:46.60 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 00:11:54.65 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | All right, next on our agenda is communications. This is the time for the city council to hear from citizens regarding matters that are not on the agenda. Except in very limited situations, state law precludes the council from taking action on or engaging in discussions concerning items of business that are not on the agenda. Would anyone like to speak on an item not on our agenda this evening? I have a speaker card from David Suto. |
| 00:12:25.16 | David Sudo | I just want to take this opportunity to express my concern about the fireworks that happened this weekend. You know, I love fireworks. I go to every single one we have, but I really need to know when they're going to happen, and I think really the city should be compensated for when they happen to. You know, I have a dog that if I'm not home, she might hurt herself. So I think it's just really important that we get a notification system going. Thank you. |
| 00:12:51.64 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you, so I will just let you know that the city investigated the fireworks and found out that they were set off on a barge in connection with an event, a wedding. And there was a permit for them, but the communication between various agencies that should have happened, Did not happen. And the city manager and his staff have reached out. to ensure that in the future such events are properly noticed and the city notified so that we can notify our residents and make sure you're prepared. All right, any other comments on items not on our agenda this evening? |
| 00:13:30.35 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 00:13:55.26 | Unknown | Mary, start. |
| 00:14:16.01 | Jeff Jacobs | Hello, Mayor and City Council. |
| 00:14:22.80 | Jeff Jacobs | I'm a little wet. My kayak went Over. First time I flipped it. but I feel a little clean. and purified. now That the sun has set. And the rules are a little laxer for the Israelites. It's a holiday called Sukkot. It seems like half of our days, like in Europe, for the workers, the peasants, with the saints' days, for a practicing Israelite, are called Yom Tov, which is just a good day. A day where we're not supposed to kindle fire Where we're home, we don't need to travel anywhere else. We don't have to do mundane work that we do every day. For this holiday, In the past, I've done what Israelites do all over the world, which is Cure homelessness. We put up a sukkah. It's a temporary structure. The sides can be made out of anything. The roof has to be. leaves, branches. like that. I've been able to do that. where the olive trees and the pine trees are south of Dunphy Park. And it stayed up for the eight days of Sukkot. I haven't been able to do it today. I plan on doing it tomorrow. |
| 00:16:09.57 | Jeff Jacobs | that when we do something that is against or seems against one of the rules, regulations from the city the state. or the feds. We people. who take it seriously, the laws. Torah doesn't mean law, it means teachings. I take that very seriously. When it conflicts with any of those local, state, or federal regulations we have to examine, ourselves. and decide which one takes priority. I'll say that love and peace and justice and JAH to always take priority. So thank you very much for listening. |
| 00:16:58.49 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. Doug Storms. |
| 00:17:07.41 | Doug Storms | Yes, Douglas Storms, 700 Waldo Point, Sausalito, California. Yeah, my comments pertain to community outreach between the mariners of Richardson Bay, those that live, work, play, kayak, frolic on the waters of Richardson Bay and between the city of Sausalito. I have a couple of bullet points here for recommendations. The first one would be, I think it would be a tremendous asset for the city of Sausalito to have a representative or to have someone attend the Richardson Bay Regional Agency meetings. There's going to be another one. They have them about every two months. And I know that South Side O used to be a member of the agency, the regional agency. And I think since you guys are working so closely together, and it's the same body of water, different jurisdictions, but it's the same body of water. What happens on that side of the channel in a northerly blow? affects you so it would be great to have a representative there on an ongoing basis the other suggestion is i know that the rbra they had coffees with the mariners at like cafe trieste and then likewise i believe since you since as an entity unto themselves now separate jurisdiction, that there should be a community outreach to reach out to the community. Coffees are really great. place and location, Cafe Trieste or wherever. to enter into that dialogue not When you're up here at a dais, now's not the time because everybody's jockeying. It's just like in Congress when they give speeches, they're doing it to get elected. But when you sit down around a coffee, it helps a lot to be able to listen, to express your concerns. We had a great attendance when the RBRA reached out. We had representatives there between them and the maritime community. The other thing is I believe that this winter, I believe that we should really look at an emergency response team. Because when a crisis happens and when there's a couple of 50 foot power boats that are barreling in to the marinas or to Dunphy Park, it's too late to get the emergency response team. There needs to be a game plan, a triage. and to identify you know, those resources that are available to call upon. My experience from being here 30 years is when a crisis happens and you call the Coast Guard or the Sheriff or the police or this or that, they're not able to respond in a timely manner sometimes. So community outreach is the way to go. Thank you. Thanks. |
| 00:20:10.47 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you, Dr. Thank you. |
| 00:20:15.92 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | All right, next on our agenda, any other comments from the public? Okay, next on our agenda is minutes of our prior meetings. We have three sets of minutes. Are there any? proposed revisions to the minutes. |
| 00:20:36.48 | Jill Hoffman | Vice Mayor Burns pointed out that my name is spelled incorrectly on one of them, but I think I can handle that. |
| 00:20:42.01 | Unknown | I can handle that. |
| 00:20:46.01 | Ray Withey | It was the |
| 00:20:52.85 | Jill Hoffman | Otherwise, I'll move approval. |
| 00:20:53.93 | Ray Withey | 31st on roll call. |
| 00:20:58.86 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Okay. We'll put that in auto correct going forward. All right, there's been a motion to approve as amended. |
| 00:21:01.93 | Stacy | Let's go. |
| 00:21:07.85 | Serge Avila | Second. |
| 00:21:08.73 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | All in favor? Aye. That motion carries 5-0. |
| 00:21:09.76 | Serge Avila | Bye. |
| 00:21:10.53 | Unknown | you |
| 00:21:13.76 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | All right, next on the agenda is our consent calendar. Matters listed under the consent calendar are considered routine and non-controversial, require no discussion, are expected to have unanimous council support, and may be enacted by the council in one motion in the form listed below. Today, we will be enacting the consent calendar in two motions, and I will abstain from voting on item 4A. Is there any public comment on the consent calendar? |
| 00:21:41.46 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:21:41.48 | Jeff Jacobs | Yes. |
| 00:21:43.69 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Come forward. |
| 00:21:48.72 | Jeff Jacobs | Thank you again. I'll make this as short as I can and to the point. This is the license plate readers. They're being used in Tiburon. They take pictures of every car license plate that comes in or out. |
| 00:22:08.03 | Jeff Jacobs | In China... now in London, England, And in other places... They're not only using license plate readers, but face recognition. and various other technologies, to stop people eventually on the streets as suspects in crimes. We here in the United States have a very large prison population. In California, there are 33 State prisons. There are more people now, more black people, in prison than were slaves in 1859. Under parole? and under probation. They are counted. for the congressional districts. So the congressman still using them as three-fifths of a person. However, the right to vote is taken away. The 13th Amendment. which outlaws slavery, allows it for anybody convicted of a crime. The situation is that for many people, including many people on the anchorage in Sausalito, We are on a prison planet. When the people are released, as they usually are. They bring much of what they have learned in prison to the outside world. They bring any sicknesses they have physically, emotionally and psychologically. In most prisons, there is no longer rehabilitation, there is punishment. If there is work, it is rewarded at 27 cents an hour. to 44 cents an hour. This is called the modern Jim Crow. It's not just for black people. It's for brown people. It's for immigrants. It's for political dissonance. in this country. I'm investigating this. I can start on the Anchorage because there's many people who have suffered it there. It's time. to set the captives free. Thank you. |
| 00:24:40.15 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. Any other public comment on our consent calendar? All right, I'll close public comment, bring it up here for action. Any comment before we vote? |
| 00:24:50.75 | Jill Hoffman | The only comment that I have is there's a resolution authorizing an allocation for the gate six road intersection improvements. And I just am really thrilled that this is coming before us. There's a great map in our packet about the bicycle, pedestrian, and other improvements that are going to be made. It's the intersection where Mike's bikes and on the highway come together, and it's always really confusing if you're biking or walking just how that all works. And I think this is just going to be a great improvement. So I'm just thrilled that it's happening and that we are using money from outside of the city to fund it. That's wonderful. So thank you to staff and everyone else Thank you. |
| 00:25:35.84 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Great, all right, may I then have a motion on items 4B through 4C. DM. |
| 00:25:41.44 | Serge Avila | I move adoption of the consent calendar items 4B to 4B. D. |
| 00:25:48.48 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. Second. All in favor. Aye. Aye. That motion carries 5-0. |
| 00:25:51.28 | Serge Avila | Hi. I move adoption of consent calendar 4A. |
| 00:25:59.13 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Second. All in favor? Aye. And I will abstain. So that motion carries 4-1 with Joan Cox abstaining. |
| 00:26:01.66 | Serge Avila | Bye. |
| 00:26:09.52 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | All right, we'll move on to our business items. And first business item is 6A, Marin Mobile Cares Mobile Showers. |
| 00:26:48.08 | Bill Frost | Just waiting for the audiovisual catch up. There we go. The President. Madam Mayor. Mr. Vice Mayor, council members, and distinguished city staff. I am Lieutenant Bill Frost, and I'm currently having the privilege of serving as your acting police chief for the next three weeks. Tonight I have the honor of introducing this topic about Marin Mobile Care and the Mobile Showers. This is gonna be a three-point presentation. I'm gonna start out with the introduction. Then I am going to have Karen Strolia from Marin Mobile. come and give the presentation and then I will come back at the end to provide some options. and ask for some guidance from the council regarding this project. While we are going to provide you some options and a recommendation from city staff, This is a topic that does not have to be ruled on at this very moment. We could discuss it, you could provide direction, we're happy to follow that direction and work further We wanted to bring this up for discussion and for your information and to let you know how this program is working throughout the county and how we envision it working. here in Sausalito. So without further ado, I'd like to invite Karen up, and she'll be providing the first portion of this presentation. What I would do is ask to hold any questions to the very end because some questions may hop up and then later on as we proceed through the presentation, they may be answered. At the very end, we'll be very happy to answer any and all questions. Here is Kerry. |
| 00:28:23.38 | Karen Strolia | Hello, Mayor Cox, Councilmembers, thank you for having me. I'm here with my partner in crime in the county. This is Andrew Henning from the City of San Rafael. So before we get started, I just kind of want to walk you guys through. what we've done here. When we first started really exploring the idea of mobile showers, because I'm with Downtown Streets team, I was looking through the lens of employment, employment readiness. We're working with folks who are experiencing homelessness, and through our program we're getting them back into housing and employment. And one of the biggest barriers we'd run into on a very regular basis was they'd get the interview and then they would come to me and say, Karen, I don't feel comfortable because I'm not clean. And it was either a restriction against getting into Ritter Center, which is currently the only, was the only shower available for folks in the community, or the timing didn't line up. through that lens is kind of where this dialogue started. I quickly wrote a letter of intent and submitted it to the county and to my different partners in the community to kind of see where this would go. One thing that the county came back to me with was, I need you to go out and do research and really find out what the need looks like. We've got showers here, it seems like it's serving everyone. What does it really look like? So I hit the pavement, came to Sausalito, went to West Marin, went to Fairfax, Corte Madera, Larkspur, all of the cities that I could possibly get my paws in. And while I was here in your community, I was able to connect with a few people who were at Dunphy Park for that day. A lot of them were a part of the Anchor Out community. And through conversations, I learned that they were bathing either in the bay or they were using garden hoses from local neighbors without their Without their permission, neighbors didn't know that the garden hoses were being used for such a thing. But it very quickly came to light that there was a larger need than just someone getting into employment. There was a barrier here. that went much deeper. There was a dignity piece that was missing. I mean, bathing in the bay, right? Like I said at the time, there was only one shower available. It was at the Ritter Center in St. Raffel. That shower was able to serve 300 people. Well, if there are 1,170 people in the community who need that basic need, they're unable just capacity-wise to be able to serve everyone on a regular basis. Not to mention there are people living outside of San Rafael with that basic need as well. So whether you're talking about folks in Novato, folks here in your community, Cortam-Daira, Fairfax, West Marin, it takes a lot of resource, which folks who are living outside don't always have to be able to get to that basic need so then we start looking we started looking at well how can we possibly bring this basic need to where people are how can we meet people where they are so they can use those resources to actually get out of the experience of homelessness |
| 00:31:13.61 | Karen Strolia | Oh, hey, okay. So from there, we were able to start dialogues with Marin County Council of Mayors and Council Members, MCCMC. through their community homeless fund. We were able to secure funding for operations. With those dollars, we were able to actually hire participants through our Downtown Streets team program, which has been incredible. We put them through CPR training, first aid, and conflict management training. And then we launched our showers in March of this year. The purpose of this is really to get people reconnected back into the system through the county's coordinated entry. This is one of the newest entry points to that system. And one way that we do this is by conducting regular outreach in the county. So while our guys are, when they're not serving showers, they're out doing research in different parts. They've been in your community a few times, and they'll hit the other areas that I've done research myself. So as you can see here, this is some of the data that we've collected through our time. I'm gonna break this down a little bit because it's a lot of numbers, and I'm sure you guys have had time to sort through it, This is a snapshot, like it says, of September. This process has been a ramp-up. We weren't serving 60 showers in the first month. We served maybe three, so it's definitely been a growth as we've stabilized our program and have been in the communities and have been consistent. In that first row, that first column, it's really just going to give you a snapshot of how many showers can we serve each day and how many showers can we serve each month based on water capacity, based on site times that we're allowed to be on the premises. Um, So. Column two is really a snapshot of the actual showers, individual showers that are provided each day. So, and then I included month, but that muddies the, the visual a little bit. So essentially you can see that on average we're serving about 11 showers in Novato in the morning, 10 in San Rafael in the morning, and about 16 in the evening. So Column three really focuses on the individual, unique individuals per month. So that's 25 unique individuals in Novato, 33 unique individuals in San Rafael, and 42 unique individuals in San Rafael in the evening. Um, The actual showers per month, which I didn't include a column on. We've hosted this month 83 showers in Sausalito. Nope, sorry, I'm projecting the future here. Unintentional. 83 showers in Novato at the HUD parcel, 68 showers in the morning in San Rafael, and 93 showers in the evening in San Rafael. The way I like to look at these three columns is they're really a capture of the capacity utilization. Through our pilot, we've really only used about 50% capacity just because we've been building up to reach that 100%. But what this means is that at any given time, at any site that we're on, we really only have a handful of folks on each site, and they're really engaged with our staff. Those last four columns that you see there, those are really a reflection of the connection that we're making and getting folks reintegrated into the greater system of care. You'll notice that Sausalito, again, sorry you guys, you'll notice that the Novato site, we've had a huge influx of people who are being connected outside of San Rafael, which is pretty incredible. And I'd like to also note that the first three months that we were hosting showers, that we've been hosting showers, we didn't have anyone who was connecting from the Ritter. So we were tapping into a population that hadn't been connected to services. Either they were living in their cars and working full time, so didn't have the time frame to get to the ritter showers what whatever the case was we were connecting with a large group of folks who hadn't been connected at that point So, We were making moves in ways that we didn't anticipate. Um, So now that I've given you a snapshot of the data, I'd like to put that into a narrative form and let you guys know what the successes of this really look like. The first point there, one person was reunited with their family that sounds like, oh, one person, what's the big deal? This guy came to us in his neighbor's car, and the guy gets out and says, my neighbor really needs a shower, and we say, sure, bring him in. We realize he's completely soaked seven layers deep. We start peeling the layers off of him and realize his skin is missing because he's been sitting in these wet clothes for months. We get him bathed. We get them redressed with donations that we've received from different community members. The guy who brings them takes them back in his car, drives them to Marin General. Where they get him set up in a room, he has a horrible skin disease on the outside, he's got internal diseases going on on the inside. The hospital at Marin General, they were able to call this guy's family and get him reconnected. The sisters flew out from Mississippi. Thank you. And there you go. So it's one person, but that completely changed his life. Thank you. We've also seen at least seven people get connected on a regular basis with medical care. We hear all the time where people check in with something here or there, but I'm talking people who are making regular appointments with their physicians because they're not embarrassed to go to their doctor's appointments. An example there, we had a guy with diabetes. He had a hole in his leg because his diabetes was so terrible. He'd been seeing the doctor on a regular basis, but he couldn't keep his wound clean, so it wouldn't close. He started visiting the showers on a regular basis. That wound is 50% smaller and is actually closing up. Seven people have secured employment and kept it. And that's outside of our employment services at Downtown Streets team. This is really somebody coming up and saying, I have a job interview. I got to go to this job. And we're like, hop in. Let's get you set up. And they go and they nail it. So that's dope. We've seen three people secure housing either through coordinated entry or on their own accord. One of those folks was a 61-year-old lady who was living in her car for over a decade. She came to the shower, she heard about it being blasted on the radio. And she was housed a couple of weeks ago actually through coordinated entry. She's darling. We've also secured funding partners, we've been in the Marin IJ, that's all really exciting. But the biggest piece, and that's why it's in bold, is the amount of dignity we're able to provide to folks. We've served, as of today, 1,010 showers. I'm so excited about that. But it's really powerful. The impact that we're having is huge, and it goes far beyond the employment gap that I was seeing that need there. Of course, with success, we have some challenges. I'm just going to air out our dirty laundry here. So conflicts, we did have one verbal conflict on site. We had two folks who had a long history of living outside in the same community. A lot of that historical context came up when they came to the showers. But because our guys, our shower staff, were trained in conflict management, They were able to mediate that very quickly. Those two folks are now peers in the community. They support each other, they become allies. They're rooting for each other as they're getting out of their experience. We've had one person try to use substances in the shower, again, our shower staff, just said that's not appropriate you can't do that here this is a safe place this is a drug-free zone and the person has come back several times since then without the substances and all of this because of the training our staff has gone through we haven't had to have any phone calls to police departments we have an incredible relationship with our pd in nevato and within in santerfel and we've had to not make any unfriendly phone calls. They've all been pleasant. Lessons learned. When we initially launched, we had three shower sites. We had one in San Rafael and two in Novato. One of our sites in Novato, we were there for a month, and we did not have a single guest show up to be served. Financially speaking, because I'm the fundraiser for this whole thing, I'm like, this is not feasible. We need to just put that site on hold, which we've done. And because people are now hearing about it, we're getting phone calls, hey, we really want to have a shower at that site. So here I am going back to that community center and saying, hey, is there any way we can host the showers on those days that we previously tried? There's more of an interest there. So the lesson learned really is to be flexible. this is a very malleable program and we're really trying to make the best of it and do what we can to make it work for everyone. The biggest challenge in all of this, you guys saw the VI SPIDAT scores and what that looks like. VI SPIDAT is the vulnerability index that we're using to really find out how vulnerable someone is in their experience. That's what's being used for the coordinated entry system of care. That questionnaire, I'm not sure if you guys have seen it, is an exceptionally It's an intimate questionnaire. They ask really private questions, not just your social security number, but really personal traumas that potentially could have happened to you. So a huge piece of what we're doing out there is really building trust with folks in the community who haven't connected in years. Some of them haven't been connected in years, like the lady who just got housed. So that's huge. The other piece, of course, is we've got our two sites in San Rafael San Rafael and Nevada but we would love to be able to get further south like I mentioned at the beginning. With the outreach and the research that I did at the beginning of all of this in 2016 there's definitely a need outside of those two those two cities. I've recently, because our pilot has some more robust data from day one, of course, that's how it works, I've gone to some fellow councils, done some presentations with all of them and let them know what's been going on. And these are some of the outcomes. We've since, as of August, we've secured the San Rafael evening shift. That's not the shift that started, and that's actually been one of our more robust shifts of guests to come. After our Novato Council meeting meeting they also extended to have evening shifts to serve community members we met with Cora Madera last week they approved having us in their community it's I'm working now with the city manager Todd on where the site the best site for their community will work and what works best for our units And of course I'm here tonight and next week I'll be going to Fairfax to talk to them about hosting in their community. So moving forward, of course, the goal is to secure additional sites and be serving and hosting showers by December 2018. We've been proposed a site, but Lieutenant Frost will be speaking more on that. I'm super interested in hearing feedback from you guys. But the biggest piece is the mobile shower program that we're running has an incredibly light footprint. We bring our own water. We take the waste with us when we go, and we have a generator if we need it. The only thing that we really need from you all is a place to host three hours of a day, and that's it. We can do everything else. We've been doing everything else for the past few months. That's it for me. I'm gonna hand the mic over to Phil. |
| 00:42:56.61 | Bill Frost | Before we go into the slides regarding the areas that are possible sites that the City has reviewed and discussed with the mobile care program. I would like to reiterate that I have reached out to our contemporaries in law enforcement at the Marin County Sheriff's Office the San Rafael Police Department, and the Novato Police Department. The mobile showers have generated no calls for service. They've been very minor issues. There have been no needs for police departments or the sheriff's office to provide security at these sites. And that the mobile care facilities have been policed by themselves, Their staff have dealt with issues. and law enforcement has not had to get involved. It's been a very low footprint So. We have looked at five different locations where mobile showers could be. Whenever we look at these areas, we put in mind, keep in mind, that we need areas where there's access to water, that there is access to electricity and there's access to bathrooms. As well, we have to balance the private property, and public property aspects. So one area was brought up was Clipper Yacht Harbor. The first challenge, which comes up with this, is this is private property. So you would need, the city would need to go into an agreement with Clipper Yacht Harbor for the use of this property. there is access from the water to this location. However, there is no public water electricity or public bathrooms. So that would be something that we would have to work out a deal with them regarding their private property in their private bathrooms. electricity and water. Next location is Marinship Park. It's city property, public property. It's got plenty of room. It has public water, has electricity, and has bathrooms. Also. The Army Corps of Engineers, which is located directly to the south of this location, has advised they're willing two, host an area on their dock where individuals could access the shore from the waterway. |
| 00:45:03.88 | Bill Frost | Also, there's plenty of room for facilities, and it gives plenty of area for people to have space to move. 300 Locust Street. the site of the old police department if we go back nine years ago. City property. At this time, water is turned off to that location. However, water can be turned back on. One of the issues is the water pipe there is broken, so the water pipe would have to be replaced. not a deal breaker or an issue. However, there is no electricity at that location. When the police department moved back in 2010, the electricity infrastructure was removed by PG&E. So that does not exist, and there are no public bathrooms. Turney Street Boat Ramp. City property, but no public water, no electricity, no bathrooms, also not a whole lot of area to be able to put mobile showers. And also, it's not flat land. So there would be issues with trying to put something in a off-kilter location which will could cause issues with the functioning of the mobile care shower program. And also, then we brought up the Star of the Sea Church. private property. So we would have to work out a with the church. regarding the use of their water, electricity. and their bathrooms. So these are all issues, and one of the issues that, like I remind, we have to have for this thing to work. Water. electricity. and access to bathrooms. The key thing, and I learned this in the last few days, is the electricity aspect. That is, pretty much the deal breaker. There needs to be electricity. The preferred site for city staff as well as the Marin Mobile staff is actually Marin Ship Park. It's based on the space available. the waterfront access, availability of water on the location, bathrooms, and electricity on scene. Those are why we're declaring it the preferred site. Now we have to discuss waterfront access because a portion of the population that will be accessed in these showers will be coming from the waterfront. We've made inquiries to some of the locales to determine if they would provide access to the shore for those members of the waterfront who want to use the showers. Like I said earlier, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers have said they're willing to utilize a portion of the South Pier. for the use of people transiting We have also made some inquiries of Marina Plaza as well as a Sausalus shipyard and marina. So with that background information, the staff is making a recommendation. The first is to receive the report as always, indirect staff to work with the Marin Mobile Care staff, not car staff, I apologize for that, care staff, to enter into an agreement with Marin Mobile to develop and operate six-month mobile shower pilot program at Marinship Park for today. two days a week, for six months beginning in November. The conditions for approval to provide the service on weekdays only with hours of 6 a.m. to noon. Part of also our staff recommendation is to receive direction. to conduct outreach. To the residents, neighboring businesses, faith-based organizations, and potential customers to maximize the number of participants as well as minimizing any negative impacts to surrounding neighborhoods, surrounding business and the community at large. And then, we would return to City Council in February of 2019 with a program status report. So that is a recommendation. However, as always, we want to provide some other alternatives that the council could consider. And the first would be for the council to direct staff to work with the mobile care staff to enter into an agreement. with the mobile care, and develop and operate a six-month mobile shower pilot program at Marin, Park. twice a week. 6 a.m. to 12 p.m. noon. starting in November. what we recommended. The first alternative is that for the council to direct staff to conduct further study into the mobile shower program currently taking place in Nevada and San Rafael, and conduct outreach with public business and residentials of Sausalito. and have the staff then Based on that information, work with the Marin Mobile Care staff to develop a shower program proposal for council to consider in November of 2018. with the goal that the program actually become operational in December of 2018. And the last alternative is for you to direct staff to evaluate The mobile shower programs occurring in Nevada and for the first year of their operation. So that would be March, 2018 to March, 2019. and for staff to conduct additional public outreach to residents, businesses, and the public to. get their feedback. At that time, we'd also be having the staff working coordination with the Mobile Marin, once again, CARE, not CARE, Thank you. When he trains from one thing to another thing, mysterious little letters sometimes appear and disappear. to develop a mobile shower program for Sausalito to present to council Using the lessons learned, from the first complete year of operation and information from our public outreach. We want to learn from the lessons of others. and we want to also base our program on successes while working with our partners at the mobile care. With that, me and Karen would be happy to answer any questions that the council has. |
| 00:51:00.40 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | I'm going to start off with a few. So, Karen, I think you came. Were you here with us in February with Andrew? Or, Andrew, was it someone else who was with you? |
| 00:51:11.35 | Karen Strolia | He was with Ashley. I was with Ashley. Thank you. |
| 00:51:13.02 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Ashley. Mm-hm. |
| 00:51:13.64 | Karen Strolia | Mm-hmm. |
| 00:51:13.93 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Okay, so at that time we asked that a criterion be added to the VI Spadats sheet that lists residency on the water as a criterion for evaluating eligibility for housing so this is a is intended as a coordinated entry point to the system of care. and we believe I think that it's important in gaining Entry to the system of care. that this be in included as a criterion you were here earlier tonight and you heard Doug Storms talk about the danger of living on the water. Ashley actually promised to come back to us in April with a report about what was going on. So I'm interested to know what the status of having the anchor out condition added as a criterion in evaluating eligibility for housing in Marin. |
| 00:52:18.82 | Karen Strolia | I'm gonna hand this to Andrew because he was here for that meeting. |
| 00:52:21.45 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | THANK YOU. |
| 00:52:21.75 | Karen Strolia | Thank you, Andrew. |
| 00:52:22.56 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 00:52:22.59 | Karen Strolia | Thank you. |
| 00:52:23.57 | Andrew Henning | Ashley would probably be the best person to speak to that, and I definitely would recommend having her come back and give an update overall. I will say I think the proposal was with our current scoring tool for coordinated entry It's on a scale from zero to 16. And so I think the suggestion was to add an additional point for people that were living on the water. Right. My understanding is that was discussed by the broader partnership of different service providers, the county and so forth. And they decided at that time not to add an additional point. |
| 00:52:41.29 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Right. |
| 00:52:52.40 | Andrew Henning | It doesn't mean that it couldn't be revisited again, but it would probably be a better question for Ashley to answer how that transpired. I think there, I guess part of it is there would probably need to be more research around, certainly people are at higher risk living on the water, but we also just see a lot of overall early death, sadly, among the homeless community overall around Marin. So I think there would probably need to be a more detailed study, but that was what I recall from those conversations. |
| 00:53:18.13 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Okay, and while you're there, Thank you. You promised us in February that you were going to do outreach to the churches to see if it would be feasible to coordinate a mobile shower program with the church lunch program, and I also suggested including the mobile dentist program. So have you done some of that outreach to churches to find out the feasibility of coordinating the that positioning of mobile showers at the churches that are offering lunch. |
| 00:53:52.94 | Andrew Henning | So after that conversation over the past couple months, we've basically been trying to work through the various city councils. So at this point, as Karen indicated, we've reached out to Corte Madera. We were there last week. Their city manager is working on identifying sites for us. It seems as though they're looking at both the site near the marsh as well as a more central site in the community. potentially closer to downtown or closer to Mill Valley where they've had issues. We're then going to Fairfax. So that's been our planned progression of gaining more sites. In terms of the churches here and the meal rotation, I believe the picture that was shown as a potential site There was some discussion about that. And part of the concern was that it might actually just be operationally, logistically tough to get the unit up into the hills where that church was. So that was the extent of that conversation. But as the lieutenant said, if it's the direction of the council tonight to further investigate those, we certainly could. |
| 00:54:51.99 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | And then you also, so an obstacle that I've learned to possibly having the mobile showers at the churches is the reservation system. And you had promised to come back and give us a run through of exactly how the logistics of this program works, how you make a reservation, and how far ahead can you make it, and what the eligibility are, and how long the meeting with the social worker is, and to really walk us through the nuts and bolts of the shower program itself so that we can understand because one of the things that we were warned against at the MCC MC homelessness committee was building complacency in homelessness and ensuring that the showers are a coordinated entry point to a system of care that ultimately results in employment and housing. And, I'm not sure. So... Were you planning to share that information with us? |
| 00:55:49.67 | Andrew Henning | Well, I'd probably turn it back to Karen to talk about what that has actually looked like in practice. |
| 00:55:53.62 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Bye. Okay? |
| 00:55:53.97 | Andrew Henning | I will just say, just to kind of echo some of the results from earlier, I think what we've been seeing is that the program, as was discussed previously, the previous vision, has been coming into fruition. As Karen mentioned, for the first three months of operation, 100% of the people that they were seeing were people that had previously not been engage with RIDR, with those systems of care. So it really is reaching people that have been off the grid. As you saw in Nevada, Nevada has actually had probably, I think of all the sites, the highest Utilization of enrollment on VI-SPDATS and into the HMIS system. So I think that the original vision is happening, as she said. One of the challenges is just the timing that goes into building these relationships. I think that's something we've always kind of said, that Part of what the shower is doing is helping to build those trusting relationships. Um, Going back to even your first question about Ashley and the county, the county Health and Human Services Department is right now trying to restructure their outreach grants and their contracts overall. So I think that there's also further discussion. I was in one earlier and Karen's been advocating for this, for additional layers of outreach, mental health. You mentioned medical, trying to get medical partners and other partners into these sites. So again, I'll let her talk about the literal logistics of getting people onto site, but I think that the overall vision has been met to date. |
| 00:57:13.13 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Okay, and I have one more question for you before Ashley, before She comes back up, which is? Karen, but you've served 1,010 showers. From those 1,010 showers, Three people have secured housing, but I think only one through coordinated entry, and seven people have secured full time employment. How much housing is available for those thousand people who have been offered showers? Do you have the housing, this is intended to be a coordinated entry point. Do you have the housing to offer to those thousand people? |
| 00:57:47.37 | Andrew Henning | So I think a key caveat, and she might be able to describe it in the data, is that There have been a thousand showered served, but it's not that there are a thousand unique individuals that have been through. So I think there's a much smaller number of people that are utilizing the program. Oh, how many people? that. 101, so a tenth of that. |
| 00:58:04.41 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | All right, so do you have 100 houses to offer to those 101 houses? Because again, this is intended as a coordinated entry point and not to build complacency in homelessness. So do you have 100 housing sites to offer these people with whom we're making contact through the mobile showers. |
| 00:58:24.80 | Andrew Henning | Well, can I just say more broadly that there are efforts in the county to create more housing. Even in San Rafael right now, we have the potential of creating. up to 100 units of homeless housing. So we're certainly doing our part to try to entitle and create more housing. The Marin Housing Authority is reaching out to landlords. They've recruited over, I think now, over 80 or 90 new landlords to rent to Section 8 folks. So there are efforts underway around creating more housing units. So it's sort of, I think, a both and. I think we need to do both of the things. Because if we create more housing, but then we don't have an engagement tool on the front end to get people into that system, then we can create 500 units, but if no one's engaged in the system to then get in the queue for housing, it doesn't matter. So I think it's a both and. |
| 00:59:11.95 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Okay, I'll let Karen answer, and then I'll let other people ask questions. |
| 00:59:15.68 | Karen Strolia | Your question was day to day scheduling. What does that look like? So we have a phone that is connected to the driver of our shower unit. And someone calls that number, he answers, and either lets them know where it is, schedules them for an appointment that day. If he doesn't answer because his shift is done, then he calls them back first thing in the morning. |
| 00:59:18.77 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Yeah. |
| 00:59:36.62 | Karen Strolia | to get them scheduled in. Once they're on site, he's the same person that they connect with. He's got a resource guide and lets everyone know whatever, depending on what the situation is, everybody comes to the showers with different needs. He walks them through what they're what their goals are, like what are they working on, what do they need help with. And he's got resources at his fingertips that he connects people to. Let's say, for example, it's Mill Street, and you've got a call at 8 a.m. sharp to get a bed at Mill Street for that night, he'll sit there with them and call over and over and over until someone answers the phone so that he can secure a bed for that person at Mill Street for the night. So he's very hands-on and is individualized in how he's connecting folks back into services. |
| 01:00:20.09 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | And of the 101 people that you've served, how many of them are interested in being placed in housing? |
| 01:00:28.34 | Karen Strolia | That's the loaded question, isn't it? I would say we have run into maybe Six that I can name off the top of my head, but I don't want to name names. Who... have been outside for decades and have normalized their experience in a lot of ways. So they're a little more trepidatious about getting back into housing. |
| 01:00:52.41 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | So six out of 100 are interested in housing? |
| 01:00:54.80 | Karen Strolia | No, not interested. |
| 01:00:56.07 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Are not interested. So the other 95 out of the 101 are interested in being placed. Yes. And so what progress are we making now? in placing them. I asked how many homes are available, but, and you told me a bunch are coming online, But you still haven't answered how many out there are available. |
| 01:01:13.35 | Karen Strolia | That I don't know because I don't do the housing component. I just work really closely with our county and our other housing providers. One thing I think I can say is at one of our more recent meetings that we're sitting in for coordinated entry, There are many different types of vouchers that someone can get based on their needs. And there are spaces available based on these vouchers. Um, that have very particular criteria because of HUD funding, for example. So if we have a list of 100 people and nobody fits into the criteria of that specific type of voucher, then that's where we're going out and we're doing outreach and we're connecting with people. Because there is a space available for someone, we just have to find the person to get them into that space. So while there's not necessarily 100 free apartments available for everyone in the community, there are definitely spaces available for, you know, certain criteria. I'm not wording that correctly, but Yeah. |
| 01:02:09.54 | Andrew Henning | Thank you. |
| 01:02:09.56 | Karen Strolia | Thank you. |
| 01:02:09.57 | Andrew Henning | Yeah, I mean, just to add to it, I mean, I think In the question, there's an assumption that we as the community, as the system of care, need to provide housing for every single one of those individuals. What we're trying to explore is this idea of, diversion, other opportunities to reconnect people with friends and family, with other loved ones, with trying to do more short-term rental assistance so that you help with a security deposit for a month, for a shorter period of time with assistance. So there's a lot of things that are being done. I will say, you know, from the city of San Rafael's point of view, we're funding a lot of those services with local providers and trying to, again, create actual housing units. I think, again, it's an all of the above. We're trying to do as much as we can, but it's really about engaging people to even have the conversation because if you're not having the conversation, they're never going to mend those relationships with those friends and family. They're never going to consider getting a job and using that income to get housing. So I think that's a key piece of it. |
| 01:03:04.81 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Okay, but Andrew, your presentation to us on the homelessness said housing first. |
| 01:03:10.21 | Andrew Henning | And that's happening. That's how coordinated entry works. Housing first is a process by which the people that are at the very top of the list, so the people that Karen mentioned through coordinated entry, these are Hardest to serve individuals in the community that have been homeless for decades, have health issues, mental health issues, substance abuse issues. They are being placed, no questions asked, into housing units that are being created. primarily San Rafael, Central Marin, Nevada. So this process is working. That's what Housing First is. But obviously, regionally, across the state, homelessness is a crisis because of the affordable housing crisis. So it's a process getting that done. Thanks. |
| 01:03:51.06 | Jill Hoffman | I guess I'll go next. I just have a couple questions. But first, I just wanted to say thank you to both of you, Andrew and Karen. I feel like when you guys come, I think you have these great public policy backgrounds. But I also think you infuse the conversation |
| 01:03:51.75 | Andrew Henning | It's good. |
| 01:04:05.86 | Jill Hoffman | with a lot of enthusiasm and compassion for your work. So I just want to thank you for that. So if Sausalito moves forward with this program, it would be the first kind of smaller town. Novato and San Rafael are both quite large. Do you see any material differences to operating in a smaller community than more of a city? |
| 01:04:32.29 | Karen Strolia | No. And the reason I say that is because any time we're at one of our shower sites, we really are in a bubble of support. That sounds really hokey. I totally get that. But yeah, I mean, no. |
| 01:04:48.25 | Jill Hoffman | Great. |
| 01:04:48.54 | Karen Strolia | Yeah, sorry, I don't have anything to do. |
| 01:04:48.55 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, sorry, I don't have anything. . |
| 01:04:50.12 | Karen Strolia | Thank you. |
| 01:04:50.51 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:04:50.55 | Karen Strolia | Thank you. |
| 01:04:50.60 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:04:50.66 | Karen Strolia | Thank you. |
| 01:04:50.71 | Jill Hoffman | I was like, no, I just wanted to ask. And then for Lieutenant Frost, we got some correspondence from Lee Hunt, who runs the Modern Sailing Academy, which is quite close to the proposed location. And I was just wondering if you had had a chance to talk with that organization. And I don't know if they're here tonight, |
| 01:04:50.78 | Karen Strolia | of the |
| 01:05:14.42 | Jill Hoffman | hear a little bit more about their concerns or kind of explore the issues that they raised in their email. |
| 01:05:21.49 | Bill Frost | I have not seen the email yet and I haven't had a chance to speak to them, but I will make it a point to touch base with them and talk to them. |
| 01:05:24.46 | Jill Hoffman | No. |
| 01:05:30.00 | Bill Frost | see what the concerns are and answer as many questions they may have and get their feedback regarding this program. |
| 01:05:36.12 | Jill Hoffman | Great, thanks. And then there was another piece of correspondence that suggested that we had available showers at the police and fire facilities on Caledonia that would be. sufficient. Can you speak to that possibility? |
| 01:05:51.80 | Bill Frost | I have not seen that email either, but I can tell you that for public safety security reasons, |
| 01:05:54.91 | Jill Hoffman | I can tell you. |
| 01:05:59.53 | Bill Frost | the showers at the police and the fire department cannot be accessed for the public because in order to get into those buildings, you have to have background checks because there's confidential public safety information and records that the general public are not aware of, such as people's driver's license, wants and warrants information, open cases. or on the fire side, you have people's medical histories and records. So, Both of those locations by records laws, as well as public safety issues, we can't have the general public have access to those showers. |
| 01:06:32.79 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. |
| 01:06:37.14 | Bill Frost | Thank you. |
| 01:06:37.16 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Other questions? Yes. |
| 01:06:37.82 | Ray Withey | Yes. Okay. Getting back to the mayor's points that she was bringing up on that coordinated entry, you're still using the VI-SPDAT. Thank you. Vulnerability of AIDS assessment. Where on that 1 through 16 are you seeing most of these showers? Are they in the qualified zones, which I think was kind of like 12 and up? Or is it more in the 12 and down type unqualified zones? |
| 01:07:11.47 | Karen Strolia | qualified sales. I can't answer that because we get scores from all over. Um, We've seen somebody who's had a 17, which is the highest score you can get. We've also seen someone who has a two, A lot of the VI-SPDAT because it's self-reported. people will respond to those Not always truthfully. You can tell, for example, sometimes if someone is struggling in certain ways and if they don't address that in the VI SPIDAP, but you're working with them on a regular basis and you know that there are other things that they're too afraid to talk about, maybe it's trauma, something, then there are revision forms that we can go in and work with the person on clarifying their responses. But the scores really are all over the place. Yeah. |
| 01:08:04.84 | Ray Withey | Well, this is about assessment. Yes. So at some point, this process is to assess people to fit them into that vulnerability zone, correct? Yes. |
| 01:08:08.22 | Karen Strolia | Yes. |
| 01:08:14.73 | Karen Strolia | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:08:14.97 | Andrew Henning | Thank you. |
| 01:08:18.87 | Ray Withey | Thanks. |
| 01:08:19.59 | Andrew Henning | And just to add to you, I think system-wide we're seeing that about 50% of people are scoring in the permanent supportive housing range, which is eight and above. So, again, part of it is trying to... divert people before even doing the assessment if there's a way to connect them again with friends and family or with employment or other lighter touches, that's happening before the assessment takes place. But it's been about half that are qualifying in that zone. |
| 01:08:49.12 | Joe Burns | So this is a few questions for Lieutenant Frost first. When the last time we discussed this in February of 2018, the idea was that there was going to be community outreach. with regard to identification of proposed sites. and further investigation of you know, all of these issues, and then that would come back to the city council. But my understanding is there's been no community outreach at all with regard to these proposed sites. Is that right? And your Marinship site. |
| 01:09:25.00 | Bill Frost | I could talk to you about the information that I have regarding this. I came into this project two weeks ago. and I will explain that the chief and I have discussed these areas I don't have I can't speak to the amount of public outreach or community outreach he might know. or might have been conducted I can tell you based on the information I have has been reviewed on the city level, and it's been discussions with mobile care. I can't speak for specifics regarding any public outreach. I don't have that information. I can find it out, though, for a while. |
| 01:09:55.51 | Joe Burns | I could find it out. Well, I think the answer is zero. Because I've talked to people business owners in the Marin ship next to that site and no one has talked to them. As of today, I think you said today you talked and reached out to the Corps of Engineers, was that Chris Gallagher? |
| 01:10:13.15 | Bill Frost | I've talked to Chris Gallagher as well as the chief of navigation over there regarding the use of their deer. So this is a. |
| 01:10:20.87 | Joe Burns | So this is an issue that I have with bringing forward this pilot program in this format. I think you've got, you know. I think you've got the cart before the horse, because we haven't had a community outreach, we haven't had an assessment, we haven't had input from residents on the north side of town, which will be most impacted, perhaps, of this type of activity. So I don't know what the city council is going to vote on today, but is this a question? yeah, how was it that we came up with a pilot program without any input at all from you know neighborhoods without any input from businesses without any input from the city council members Is that a question? That's a question. |
| 01:11:11.52 | Bill Frost | Thank you. |
| 01:11:11.67 | Andrew Henning | If I get a little bit more, |
| 01:11:12.04 | Bill Frost | just add to it. |
| 01:11:13.15 | Andrew Henning | Thank you. |
| 01:11:13.17 | Bill Frost | Thank you. |
| 01:11:13.32 | Joe Burns | No, I'd like to have Lieutenant Frost answer that. |
| 01:11:16.10 | Bill Frost | Based on the information I have been provided, this was provided to me that this is discussions that have been had. I can't answer that directly because I'm not the person with that knowledge. I'm happy to do the research and get back to you regarding that matter. |
| 01:11:32.59 | Joe Burns | OK, thank you. And I appreciate the fact that you jumped into this. It's a little late date. This is a question either for Andrew or maybe, I think it is Andrew. With regard to the vulnerability assessment, And And your ability to transition people into housing. Because if you had 100 people come through the system, right? 107 or something or and you've only found housing for one person, you know, That's 1%. And so if the point of having the showers is to transition people into housing, You know, I'm not sure that the, that stated goal is being met, first of all, And certainly, if you're talking about transitioning people into housing in Sausalito, you have to have recognize the increased vulnerability of people living on the water. who want to voluntarily transition into housing. So we've already identified you know, during our outreach, our own outreach, Sausoleo's own outreach last year, two or three people that were interested in transition off the water, we've contacted you, you know, you couldn't help them. I contacted you guys, and we talked about this last December, when we first talked about an increased point for vulnerability from living on the water. of the call that I made to you guys in December for the gentleman whose boat had washed up you know. on the shore. Um, was disabled, was a senior citizen, and you couldn't help him either. And so that was all without the, of showers in town, so I'm not sure that your stated goal of transitioning people I mean, you can answer that. I mean, I don't know how that goal is going to be met. because you're certainly not meeting it now. |
| 01:13:25.47 | Andrew Henning | I would just say overall, I mean, the coordinated entry system is working. We've housed over 50 people in the last year. Whatever that connection is between the people that are being assessed through the showers, I can't speak to 100%. |
| 01:13:34.63 | Joe Burns | Okay. Hold on, let me just. Yeah, let me follow up on this because you have... If you could answer the specific questions, that would be great, because you haven't transitioned 50 people through coordinated effort through the shower program, which is what we're talking about today. And so we as a city council are trying to assess you know, you've come to us and asked us to have the, you know, this program in Sausalito, and we're looking at that, but part of that is, Are you gonna be able to actually effectuate your stated goal of transitioning people into housing. I don't see how you're going to be able to do that unless you're going to recognize the risk factor of people living on the water. And, THAN THE use that as a priority to transition people into housing, those who want to. |
| 01:14:20.41 | Andrew Henning | Well, I would just say when Karen shared the stats earlier, |
| 01:14:20.45 | Joe Burns | Well, |
| 01:14:23.28 | Andrew Henning | I think the conversation right now is really focused on the coordinated entry placements, Someone moved home, seven people got jobs, so I don't think it's just One person's been helped. I think many people have been helped. In terms of the question about the extra point, Like I said earlier, I think one of the challenges is that someone that was on our list got hit by a train. People get hit by cars that are homeless. People are dying of preventable illnesses very early, simply living on the water, there could be a case for it, And it wasn't just me or the county making an executive decision about this. Ritter, St. Vincent's, the Housing Authority, all of our providers heard your request, we debated it, And it seemed like there wasn't data to support the claim that People are dying at a higher rate just by being in the water because a lot of people are dying just for being homeless. That was the conversation. as best as I recall. |
| 01:15:13.10 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | So Andrew, were we invited to that debate? I mean, none of us were provided, I don't think. Was anyone from the city of Sausalito offered an opportunity to make the case on behalf of the city of Sausalito at that debate? |
| 01:15:24.86 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. Mayor Cox, I can answer that question. So there's two meetings. There was a meeting that the chief and I We're invited to with many of the folks that Andrew just mentioned at the table. And we, on behalf of the city, |
| 01:15:35.29 | Paul Mowry | Cheers. |
| 01:15:38.97 | Adam Politzer | We made that argument. We made the pitch that the council members made here |
| 01:15:39.05 | Paul Mowry | Thank you. |
| 01:15:43.30 | Adam Politzer | In fact, I shared that we had nine people in the water two years ago. We had at least one death. I think there was two deaths two winters ago, and we had those major storms. So we showed examples of people that actually lost their life because they lived in the water. So the chief and I made that argument with the folks. Then it was a confidential meeting that we weren't a part of that Andrew just mentioned. |
| 01:16:06.83 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 01:16:08.38 | Andrew Henning | And just to be clear, that wasn't confidential, but I think that someone here, I think Ashley's been the main point of contact for this dialogue about the tool. So it might be helpful to have her come back and talk about it. I think there were some emails that went back and forth. |
| 01:16:08.55 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 01:16:08.57 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:16:21.31 | Andrew Henning | about the other meeting that took place. |
| 01:16:24.58 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | it. Where else in Southern Marin are you considering sites? Are you considering Mill Valley, Marin City, or is Sausalito the only southern Marin site you're considering? |
| 01:16:35.67 | Andrew Henning | As Karen indicated, we were in Corte Madera last week, so they gave authorization. That's Central Madera. |
| 01:16:39.36 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | That's Central Marin. |
| 01:16:40.32 | Andrew Henning | Thank you. |
| 01:16:40.34 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 01:16:40.78 | Andrew Henning | That's Central Marin. So, I mean, we're working on it. It's gaining momentum. |
| 01:16:45.76 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | It seems to me that if we are being asked to undertake this public service, which I think is an important service, and I think the dignity aspect is overwhelming. but that there has to be some consideration for the special needs of Southern Marin, including Sausalito. We have over 40 people living on the water at risk. You were here as you heard them asking for more services. So not only are they at risk, they're putting our public safety personnel at risk. And not only are they putting our public safety personnel at risk, they're endangering our homes on the hill because last year, or earlier this year, there was a fire on the hill. We had to rely on mutual aid for the fire on the hill because our local folks were all busy down helping people on the water. And so it's a huge issue for Sausalito, and I'm not confident that the county is taking it seriously enough. and yet we're being asked to do our fair share, which I think is only fair But I think we have to see some collaboration |
| 01:17:51.64 | Andrew Henning | yeah i would just add again i don't work for the county i work for the city of san rafael so everything you're saying is is why my position was created why we've invested in patrols in the hills to deal with encampments to deal with you know fourth street issues i mean we've invested a lot in this i think we share a lot of your concerns we see the showers as a way to help people that's why we have sites in san rafael and why we've been involved um so it |
| 01:17:54.52 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | I know. I know. |
| 01:18:07.77 | Paul Mowry | We said, |
| 01:18:15.08 | Andrew Henning | Again, if it's concerned with the county, I know that Adam and other staff are advocating to the county on your behalf, you know, very, passionately, so it's not that people aren't hearing it, but again, that's not something that I can speak to. I don't work for the county. |
| 01:18:28.26 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 01:18:28.66 | Ray Withey | jep good and again you just clarified you don't work for the county but could it be that the county or at least the shower program is looking at locations that do have a higher population of homelessness i don't think marin city has extremely high level of homelessness i'm not sure but is it maybe the proximity to and then as we've identified the anchor outs being a population as well. Could that be why Saucelito is now the smallest city? to and then as we've identified the anchor outs being a population as well could that be why Saucelito is now the smallest city but we have maybe a needed population |
| 01:19:02.41 | Andrew Henning | That's my sense. I mean, as Karen sort of led with, I think this initial outreach started two years ago around, is there a need beyond San Rafael to have these sites? There was clearly a need down here. There was a need in Nevada. There was a need in West Marin and other areas. So I think we've just been trying to follow back up. and do our due diligence to close the loop on that. And again, it's really about a partnership. So I think if there are more sites, if Marin City or Mill Valley, their potential hosts as well, Let's work together and make that happen. trying to have it only here. It's a progressive effort to try to get more involvement. |
| 01:19:36.62 | Ray Withey | One of the correspondence we received, and we could put our priority on this thought, but... Is there a concern or has there been outreach, I know this program's only so many months old, that might suggest that the homeless population will transit towards a shower program? Does it create a transient of that population? |
| 01:20:06.74 | Karen Strolia | We have not seen that yet. No. Other questions? |
| 01:20:12.04 | Joe Burns | I |
| 01:20:12.49 | Karen Strolia | Thank you. |
| 01:20:13.05 | Joe Burns | Thank you. |
| 01:20:13.07 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Oh. |
| 01:20:13.35 | Joe Burns | Thank you. Sorry. We had another question before. Sorry, I had not let Jill finish. |
| 01:20:15.75 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Oh, okay, sorry, I have not let Jill finish. |
| 01:20:17.98 | Joe Burns | So I think this is a question for Karen and it was kind of a follow up to one of the mayor's questions which is, you know, when you look at the population of San Rafael which is 60,000 and you look at the population of Nevada which is 56,000 and then you look at the population of Sausalito, which is 7,000. So You know, I'm not sure that the same program that you're implementing in in those two cities that are exponentially larger than Sausalito is really tailored to the geography of our two square mile town and for the population of our two square mile town. Is there any thought process on that? |
| 01:20:59.91 | Karen Strolia | Yeah, our program is absolutely scalable. So while we may host a shower opportunity in Nevada for three hours, there's one site where we're only hosting it for two and a half hours. If the need here is only to be there for two hours, then that's what we would do. Our program is completely scalable. We can't exceed three hours because of the water capacity that our units hold. But anything less than that, we're flexible to work around. |
| 01:21:00.03 | Joe Burns | Yeah. |
| 01:21:29.93 | Karen Strolia | Try that, Ray. |
| 01:21:30.85 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:21:30.91 | Karen Strolia | Thank you. |
| 01:21:31.28 | Unknown | Ray. Oh, hey, Rick. |
| 01:21:34.32 | Serge Avila | This is a very simple question. you've just talked about water capacity of the units. Um, I'm trying to really understand from your perspective, Karen, what are the minimal site requirements? Because, um, the lieutenant and the the staff in their preliminary analysis has sort of eliminated sites because of certain infrastructure, a lack of infrastructure. Do you need water? Do you need electricity? Why do you need bathrooms? I mean, obviously it'd be nice to have a bathroom there, but do these mobile shower units not have bathrooms? |
| 01:22:19.19 | Unknown | Are you? |
| 01:22:19.38 | Serge Avila | Are you? |
| 01:22:19.88 | Karen Strolia | I'm sorry. |
| 01:22:20.39 | Serge Avila | No, so help us understand the absolute minimal requirements of a site. |
| 01:22:25.45 | Karen Strolia | So we have a 250-gallon water tank that holds fresh water. We have a 300-gallon waste tank at the bottom of the unit, so we can bring the water and we can take the dirty water. Bring the clean, take the dirty. Each unit has toilets, so they have restrooms and showers. There are two regular stalls. There's one ADA compliant. so we can host families. Currently there's no place for anyone to shower that's 18 years or younger. Um, We need a flat space just to keep things level. Otherwise, the shower bases where the water flows in will outflow onto people's things. And we need a large enough space to be able to back up or go forward with a 50, I think it's 42 and a half feet long, with the truck and the unit to be able to maneuver it. eight feet wide because of the ramp. But I think that's it. It's pretty minimal. |
| 01:23:17.49 | Serge Avila | Thank you. |
| 01:23:17.90 | Paul Mowry | Thank you. It's a great day. Thanks. |
| 01:23:18.78 | Serge Avila | Pretty minimal. |
| 01:23:19.86 | Karen Strolia | Thank you. Okay. So you don't need water? No, we can bring water with us. And you don't need electricity, you have a generator. So the electricity, we do have a generator that we can bring with us. The generator is just to be very transparent and |
| 01:23:20.21 | Serge Avila | See? |
| 01:23:20.67 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | I don't need water. |
| 01:23:24.46 | Paul Mowry | Yeah. |
| 01:23:24.48 | Serge Avila | And you don't need electricity, you have a generator. |
| 01:23:26.57 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:23:34.03 | Karen Strolia | Clear? It's clunky. It's clunky. But we can bring the generator. It's ideal to have two 110 volt outlets to be able to plug the unit in. But we've got a generator for a reason. |
| 01:23:51.92 | Jill Hoffman | I hear a public comment. I hear a public comment. |
| 01:23:55.82 | Ray Withey | I have one final question. And it's more in just... Thank you. |
| 01:23:58.50 | Jill Hoffman | After that, I'd love to hear public comment. We're going to hear public comment, I promise. |
| 01:24:00.04 | Ray Withey | You're going to hear public Thank you. |
| 01:24:01.17 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 01:24:01.28 | Ray Withey | Yeah. Okay, so really quickly on the actual agreement, we're going into a six month pilot potentially. I assume that if there's any public safety issue, we can scrap the pilot at any point. Thank you. |
| 01:24:14.68 | Karen Strolia | Yes. |
| 01:24:14.72 | Ray Withey | Yes. Thank you. |
| 01:24:16.90 | Karen Strolia | Also, can I add to that, for each of the sites where we host, we have what I call a shower tracker sheet, and it essentially breaks down all of the – I mean, I brought a copy of it. I didn't send it to anyone, but I thought if I needed to reference it, I would have it. Um, It's pretty straightforward. I can pass this to you guys. I feel a little like, can I approach the bench, judge? But it basically captures information, total shower capacity, a number of people who have showered, a number of folks who are veterans, a number of folks who have taken the HMIS, who have done the VA SPDAT assessments, and any incidents that have happened on the site. And it's a tracking that's gone through each month, so you can see there are spaces because our evening Santa Fe site didn't start until August. But this is a running track I send to all of our communities. I also send a narrative. Different communities like different things. Some people like numbers. Some people like stories behind the numbers. So I tend to send both to both communities just so that there's a big picture of what's going on in their communities at the showers each month. |
| 01:25:22.23 | Joe Burns | Thank you. Yeah. And this is, again, another follow up on yours. Okay. And this is about the church, the church where the lunches are given. Question, I think you asked this question, but I don't think we got to |
| 01:25:25.24 | Karen Strolia | Thank you. |
| 01:25:33.51 | Joe Burns | We got an exact response. So when we were looking at potential sites here in Sausalito, I saw Bill that Star of the Sea was in here. But the locations where the weekly lunches are held, those locations where those looked at, |
| 01:25:52.27 | Unknown | I don't mean to be out of here. |
| 01:25:54.43 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Yeah, you are out of order. I will invite public comment in a moment. |
| 01:26:00.03 | Bill Frost | When these sites were looked at, those other churches have some logistical issues. It says not enough room, they don't have the flat land that's necessary, |
| 01:26:03.88 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:26:11.26 | Bill Frost | Yeah, it's made for. We looked at them. We reviewed them. We found that these were better suited locations. while the people go there for the lunch aspect, there are smaller areas. They may not have some of the logistical aspects and also It's true. The level, it's not level ground. A lot of it is off kiltered, hilly. and just 42 Correct, 42 foot. 42.5 foot. trailer moving in those areas where there's hills, it's gonna be Traffic congestion caused by that. |
| 01:26:44.87 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Okay, thanks. All right, I'm going to open this up to public comment. Our first speaker card is from Reverend Chip Larimore. |
| 01:27:04.33 | Chip Larimore | Thank you, my name is Chip Larimore, I'm the rector of Christ Episcopal Church, which is one of the churches in Sausalito that was probably considered for one of these sites. I have worked with unhoused populations on and off for more than 20 years. And I had a lot of statistics and things that I was going to bring to this conversation, kind of hearing the way the conversation has gone I was sitting there and thinking that I really wanted to bring a little bit more of a personal perspective to this. Excuse me. My cousin, who eight years ago was 59 years old. died living on the street. my stepson, who two years ago, was 20 years old. died living on the street. I can tell you that neither of them was ever complacent. about living on the street. The reasons for homelessness are complex. They are difficult. And I can guarantee you that our family, my aunt, my husband, and I, none of us were ever complacent about our family members living on the street. I can also tell you that I highly doubt that having access to showers would have made them more likely to want to stay living on the street. But I will tell you, that if we as family members had that they had had access to being able to clean themselves, to feel like human beings, that it would have been of great comfort to us, especially after they died. Thank you. |
| 01:28:53.65 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Tina Luther. And after Tina, David Sudo. |
| 01:29:00.82 | Tina Luther | Hi, thank you very much. My name is Tina Luther, I am the property manager for 1901 through 1907 Bridgeway. We are at the corner of Easterby, we are the host of the 7-Eleven. a laundromat and a Pilates studio. I think that I speak for all of my tenants and the ownership when I say, This is a brilliant idea and it is so kind hearted, but I ask you to please reconsider where you might place this. I think the police department knows our location very well. We have an inordinate number of calls to our location. based on a lot of vagrancy and homelessness. And the availability of alcohol. I don't. I don't think that this neighborhood needs one more thing. that's going to make it more difficult on the neighbors there. more difficult on the tenants to do business. than it already is. Especially knowing that this particular the project. has the availability to bring their own electricity, their own water. And obviously they have restroom facilities. I do think that that broadens the horizon on where this might be placed. And it might be placed in a neighborhood where perhaps the burden can be shared a little more instead of being put in a neighborhood where you can now take a great Awesome shower. and then walk up the street and buy yourself some alcohol and hang out in the neighborhood and cause more trouble. So I'd ask you to please reconsider where you'd be willing to place this. Thank you. |
| 01:30:38.24 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. Thank you. David Suto and then Alice Merrill. |
| 01:30:47.13 | David Sudo | I'd like to urge the council to approve the project and work towards starting it immediately. I think it's important that we start as soon as possible because we're getting into the winter season. I think for our anchor out population, that's a really good inflection point to make maximum impact and to try to find solutions for those people on the water. They're going to get very uncomfortable on the water, and it's a good time to, they're going to be motivated to find solutions for other housing. Also, I think, you know, we can find lots of reasons why we don't want to do this, why there might be problems, but I think, you know, this is a pilot program. That's where we find out what real problems we have and how to work around them. You know, we just have to iterate and find solutions. And if we can get some of these people off the water, we're going to save our town resources. We're not going to have to have police calls. We're not going to have the policemen go to the county court to testify. We're going to have more resources on the ground to devote to other things besides our homeless population. Thank you. |
| 01:31:56.50 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Alice Merrill and then |
| 01:31:58.44 | Alice Merrill | THE END OF |
| 01:31:58.63 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 01:31:58.68 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 01:31:58.75 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | door. |
| 01:31:59.03 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. I want to say that I'm speaking as a private citizen tonight. Thank you. And as you all know, many, many times I say, we need bathrooms, we need showers, we need showers. We need showers in Dunphy Park, we need showers. So here we are, being given showers, cool. And she's an angel, completely. I mean, look at her. I'm just, I'm speechless. Everything that she said was so kind and caring and the way they take care of people. We really need this and we need it here. And I very much urge you. to go ahead and do this pilot. It's a pilot project. You never know until you do something. And it can be a very, very good thing for many people who we can't even imagine. We don't know who the people are, that it's going to help. And it could be, She's an angel. Please, please accept this pilot project. |
| 01:33:13.70 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 01:33:15.09 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 01:33:15.11 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. Kate Storr. And then Paul Mowry. |
| 01:33:19.12 | Kate Storr | Hi, my name is Kate Storr. I'm a resident in town for over... 11 years, as it turns out. But I'm actually going to speak on this particular issue from my community development background. For 15 years I ran an organization called Architecture for Humanity. We provided technical design and construction services, specifically services like designing mobile showers around the world. |
| 01:33:25.96 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 01:33:26.09 | Marty Rausch | Bye. |
| 01:33:43.81 | Kate Storr | And so I want to address four points to the council tonight. The first is I want to reflect on our own experience in programs like this and what happened. The second is I want to address your real frustration regarding the lack of, housing services for our residents here. And finally, I want to address siting and engagement and coordination with the other services in town and then reiterate that this is a pilot program. So I want to support the program. And this program reminds me of two really important programs that we were a part of. One was designing lockers for what I want to very... significantly described to you as under-housed. These were working homeless in Minneapolis. That was the majority of the population. It's very similar to our population here, our vulnerable population here, in that many of them have Some kind of job, some kind of support, but they are underhoused and they are vulnerable. We provided lockers. We turned a retail space into basically huge, large lockers that allowed them to put their work materials and store their work materials and store their laptops and other things overnight so that they weren't vulnerable to being robbed. The program was incredibly successful in that it did provide access to services. It did reduce certain types of crime that made this population more vulnerable. and most importantly in all, created different connections with the community and of course dignity, which we talked about. We measure success at Architecture for Humanity by how many times a program is replicated That particular program was replicated over a dozen times. The second program that I want to talk about is a program that was actually in New York. And there are two of them. One was a community courts program, which you may be familiar with. It was started by the Brennan Center. a really important program in that again it allowed services to be brought to where the people who are most vulnerable needed them. And in this case I think that these showers will do the same thing. We're going to bring services, in this case the Coordinated Entry Program, to where people are, where they're living, and where their needs are by providing these showers. Which means we'll get a greater uptake in people responding to those offers of services, right? The services that were provided were not just housing. I noticed that the council was really emphasizing access to housing and getting people off the boats and in more secure housing. That's actually, as it turns out, not the most important service sometimes that you can provide to somebody. |
| 01:36:21.10 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you, Kate. |
| 01:36:22.06 | Kate Storr | I'm gonna finish up if you don't mind. Nope, I do mind. |
| 01:36:23.47 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | No, I do mind. We have a lot of people who are ready to talk, so thank you. All right, Paul Mowry and then Kelly Darling. |
| 01:36:32.48 | Paul Mowry | Hi, I'm the Reverend Paul Mowry. Thanks for this time. I apologize for speaking up earlier. I am the pastor of the church that serves the Wednesday lunch. I know all the pastors in the churches in the city, and I've actually been to the dental mobile clinic. I've looked into the dimensions of the shower, and Sausalito Presbyterian Church would love to host this, both of these. You couldn't get them up in the hill. There's no place to get level ground. One of the things I think is so key here is that we're talking about showers, and most of us here don't know what a shower is. Because most of us go home, and we turn on the water when we want to shower, and we jump in to wash up or to cool off or to get the sweat off. and that's not what a shower is to someone who lives on the street, to someone who hasn't bathed in weeks, you know, who can't get a shower, who hasn't bathed in weeks, who can't get a shower, who has to bathe in the bay or take a hose, sneak a hose from someone's yard. So when we talk about shower, we're talking about something different. And so one of the things I hope that you would consider is that when you say shower, it's not what shower means to a lot of these people who are really living in a desperate situation. I know that we, And to tell you the truth, I stand up here, I don't know what that situation is either. Because I'm lucky enough to have a house in Sausalito and I can take a shower when I want. And so I can't say what it would mean to me if you pass this tonight as someone who doesn't have access to a shower. But I can tell you what it would mean to me as a citizen of Sausalito. And that's that it would make me really proud of Sausalito. Because what makes a city great is not how successful it is, or how pretty it is, or the great views that it has, or how wealthy it is, what makes a city great. is how much dignity it affords to the most vulnerable people who live there. And I think that's really the vote tonight. It's really about a pilot program in dignity. And I really think that we're trying to, and that that as a citizen of Sausalito would make me so proud. Thank you. |
| 01:39:01.92 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 01:39:06.31 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Kelly Darling and then Chad Carvey. |
| 01:39:09.68 | Kelly Darling | Good evening, Council. Thank you. |
| 01:39:12.37 | David | THE FAMILY. |
| 01:39:12.57 | Kelly Darling | I think the... |
| 01:39:13.18 | David | I think the major thing that we are missing here is that the issue is being confused. You know, everybody's talking about a homeless shower and mobile showers. Which originally, this whole thing got brought up because it was about the anchor outs, needing facilities on shore. And that's where this discussion originally came from. And I think we're confusing the issue now. We're bringing in like homeless, well some of the anchor outs are considered homeless or undershowered or underserved. and I think we need to get back separate the two issues. I think having a mobile shower temporarily might be great it's all good for you know your feel-good factor and but how much money are you really spending on it when You could maybe step back and look at putting, maybe we could have our own mobile shower built for the price that it's going to cost you to have this service come in for two hours, twice a week, or whatever, for six months. I mean, how much money is that really going to cost? And how much money would it cost to build our own mobile shower unit that could be rolled out? Or something semi-permanent, there's lots of locations in Sausalito. that that could be done, it could be done on a co-op type basis to serve. our community. All the homeless that happen to come through here, I mean that's great, they need showers, this or that, but there's bigger cities, there's bigger places that have that in place and maybe contribute to that fund for that purpose and not draw, like a lot of people's concerns here, are drawing more homeless in because you have the services, you know, you call the 211 phone number on your phone and it gives you a list of where you can go for certain services you need when you need services. This would be one of those things that would be listed on that service. So yes, it would probably draw more homeless than we would already have here that are already transient coming through. We're a transient town, we're right on this side of the Golden Gate Bridge. We're going to have people passing through, I understand that. Yes, they might need a shower, but there may be better places and cities that can serve them in that capacity. But in doing so, we don't want to miss the real point, which is providing services for the people that have been here, have been here, are going to be here, that live here. underhoused, homeless, whatever you want to call them, anchor outs, some of them you like to attribute it to. But we do have a population that does not have access to those amenities and are willing to pay for them, are willing to do community service hours to belong to the co-op. I mean, who's going to clean it, who's going to pay for it ongoing? I mean, those are all things to consider. But back to, don't confuse the issue, I guess, is my main point for this whole thing. Remember when you're voting on this, that we could probably put our own mobile showers together for less than it's going to cost us. Okay? Thank you. |
| 01:41:37.85 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Chad Carvey, and then Jeff Jacobs. |
| 01:41:42.74 | Chad Carvey | My name is Chad Carvey and I am a proud anchor out, local school principal for many, many years. And I came here tonight, to celebrate and provide kudos and thank the city council for this idea of the showers. And during the presentation, I love the presentation. I love the dignity in big, bold letters. That was so important to me because this is about so many things other than what I was shocked. I'm actually gobsbacked right now at the response to this incredible free offer. We've been begging for showers for 30 years. 30 years. And this is a free service. It can be seen as nothing but as an improvement. And certainly it provides dignity. The people that oftentimes you can tell an anchor out by how they smell or how they look in a cafe. The ones like me, maybe you can't tell, and so people probably don't... People don't, when they look at me in a cafe, they might not look at me and say, that's a homeless person. So there's a lot, or that's an anchor out person. There are many anchor outs who are not homeless. And this is a free, amazing service. My wife and I go to a gym, we don't need this. This is not, I'm not arguing for us, I'm arguing for the people there. But to turn it around, and to say that the only reason we consider it is we can get rid of anchor outs. so we can get them housed and off their boats is Unbelievable to me. This is such an opportunity to show heart, to show human dignity, and the health aspects of having a shower about the cost of unwashed people that impact on their health is massive. And I just, I cannot believe that dignity only came in as a kind of a touched on term right at the end when that is what it's about. When you look at homelessness, we have the same ratios as homeless as San Rafael. They have 1.2, we have 1.5% of their population. So we have a very large homeless population, and the same exact ratio as San Rafael. But this is about more than that. This is about dignity. It's about human kindness. This doesn't cost us anything. It's free. It is an improvement. There's no downside to it. Why would you not do it? You've heard from everybody. Everybody is for it. Thank you. |
| 01:44:17.16 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Jeff Jacob, and then Doug Storms. |
| 01:44:26.36 | Jeff Jacobs | Hello again city council. I want to commend you to for a burst of enthusiasm after 74 days of rest. There was one closed meeting within those 74 days. So the Israelites have 79 days of Yom Tov. We can match. The Torah reading to the political issue of the day, which is kind of a miracle. It says this, it says, In that day, The pots in the Lord's house shall be like basins before the altar. Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holy unto the Lord of hosts, and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them and wash therein. And in that day there shall be no more A merchant. in the house. of Jah. |
| 01:45:31.55 | Jeff Jacobs | That's from Zachariah 14. THE HOUSELESS ISSUE can be taken care of by the Sausalito City Council. through Section 8. prohibiting landlords from discriminating against folks that have Section 8. There was an editorial in the IJ talking about this a few days ago. That's what you can do. City Council and Mayor. Today... Two weeks from now, 74 days from now, whenever you choose. I am in favor of showers for the people, the idea that it would be a burden, to 7-Eleven in the laundromat. There was one person that spoke against this. I don't think that the 7-Eleven should be selling fortified 2-Eleven beer. I'm not a prohibitionist. But by doing that, they're going to attract a certain type of person. They're making money off of that. Doesn't seem right to me, but there they go. Everybody else is in favor of this. This is a test for you. The five of you. to decide right now with A cost-free shower. parked in a public area Not directly next to a house. This is a way to show compassion. to show heart. to show love. I feel that there was a little level of seriousness here that I haven't seen before, and I want to see it continue with a vote. And I'm okay if it's not five to nothing. Thank you. |
| 01:47:26.84 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. Marty Rausch. Oh, Doug Storms and then Marty Roush. |
| 01:47:36.56 | Doug Storms | Hello, Doug Storms. Make it quick. I think Thank you. I'm part of an organization, the Richardson Bay Special Anchorage Association. It's a coalition of mariners that live on the water, work on the water. And it seems as though that is a big target group for the mobile showers. There's a great demand for it. Um, And so I would suggest that we have that We're available, we just had a meeting, we have monthly meetings. We just finished ours this evening at the Bay Model and then We came here. And so we have, I mean, the people there are the people that are that you're going to be serving. My estimate is that there's 110 people that are liveaboards. that are anchor out, so 110. 50 of those would gladly take advantage of a mobile shower. Okay, and then you'd probably double that with 50 people that are homeless. So I would guess that you'd be servicing about 100 people in Sausalito. Pastor Paul and everybody's already talked about the humanity, the you know, the impact that it has taking a shower and what it means. As a commercial diver, for 30 years when I'm out there diving and it's cold. It's not a question of having a shower. Sometimes they need to go into the shower, into the marinas, increase my core temperature because of hypothermia. I can do this. I have a residence, but if you're anchored out, and you're on a boat and you don't have heat on that boat, and it's been raining, and you're wet, and your sleeping bag's wet, it makes a big, big difference psychologically, physically, of having a shower, of having access to a shower. Um, Do the right thing. Thank you for your service. Thank you for all your hard work, each and every council member. I really appreciate you taking the time. Thank you. |
| 01:49:53.09 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you, Doug. Marty Rausch. |
| 01:49:59.49 | Marty Rausch | Hello, I'm Marty Rausch, a long time resident of Sausalito. I, too, want to thank you for considering this issue, and I truly want to thank you all for your wonderful work on the services aspect and the organizational aspect of these showers. I loved the idea, didn't really understand kind of how this was all going to work. And because I live in the north end of town, I realize that this will be Fairly close if you all decide to do this will be fairly close to where I live And I want to echo the The sentiments that have been expressed before. I love the idea. But then understanding of the services that are coming as a part of this. It's in addition to just the concept of human dignity and how do we as a community support that. The idea of a shower is great. The idea of the services that happen to occur to is wonderful. So I would really hope that you accept this as a pilot program. and realize too, that you can tinker with it. It's a mobile program too, so it can be scaled and it can be moved around, you can work with it. I hope you do that. Thank you. |
| 01:51:33.89 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | All right, with that, I'm gonna close public comment and bring it up here for discussion. Who would like to lead off? |
| 01:51:47.27 | Jill Hoffman | So I can lead off. I was on the committee, the Joan appointed me to the Uh, MCCMC, Committee on Homelessness, that is where this idea came and was funded. And so, just so everyone understands. Um, All of the cities in Marin County give a small or a a scaled proportion of money to fund this program. And so we voted earlier this year. to include that as part of our budget. So Sausalito does contribute. to the program and as a contributor we have the option of accessing the program or not so we agreed to fund the program but then to defer the decision about whether we would participate to a later date when we could have a larger discussion about whether it was appropriate. for this community and i just want to thank all of the members of the community who have come out tonight That's really important. And I also want to thank all of the people who wrote. just um So everyone knows there was some opposition to this idea I mentioned a few of the people that wrote, but a lot of support, too. So I am very supportive of this program. I think that one of the great things about it is that it is flexible in time and in impact. It does have, I think, as one of our speakers said, a light touch, which I think is important to the community. There has been a lot of debate and controversy over whether we would have permanent showers in Dunphy Park or other places. And so this is a nice step. We can see how does this work. And as a number of people said, it's movable. It doesn't have to be just in the north end of town. It could switch. It could be one day in the south end of town and one day in the north end of town. or in the middle if we can find suitable locations. And I think if any location becomes problematic, that the city manager and staff and our police department can evaluate that. and work with residents to address any concerns. I also like the idea of a six-month pilot program, which was suggested by staff. That gives everyone a chance to see if it's used, if people use the facility, how it works, and if there are any issues. So I'm supportive of the six-month period. There was a lot of debate and a lot of questions about the purpose of the shower, and I think one of the essential purposes is kind of accessing services, including housing, but I think as many people pointed out, you know, a good shower is just, it is a good shower, and if nothing else, if nothing else comes from this, then giving people a chance to access that twice a week is something that I think is important. And I think the side issues with housing, it's also, yeah, it gets you ready for a job interview or to meet a friend that you haven't seen for a while. So just those things I think in and of themselves, even if it doesn't have these other benefits would be important, but it does have the access to bigger services as another benefit. Um, |
| 01:55:29.04 | Jill Hoffman | I share the concern about the public outreach. I think we did publish this in the currents and I have heard from a number of people. I have a preference to start slowly with the program and to use that period of time as staff has recommended to do more outreach, to get more input from other segments of the community that might not be here tonight um but i agree with one speaker that uh you know the fall is coming the cold weather and i think this is a good time to increase our outreach efforts and um to get started but i'm interested in hearing what other council members have to say about that. And I think the location that's been proposed has a lot of benefits. I was concerned that the immediate neighbor, the sailing academy, hadn't been consulted. So I'd like to make sure that we reach out to them and other neighbors. and know that so that they know that this is coming and to really monitor any negative impacts that might come. So those are my preliminary thoughts, but I would love to hear what other council members have to say. |
| 01:56:42.45 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 01:56:46.33 | Ray Withey | Jill. I'll go. Well, a few things, and I appreciate Councilmember Knowles laying out how this came about. Great context there for the rest of our comments. For tonight's process, I thought it was some great comments coming from the public, because there was public outreach. It's one of the times when we take this job to sit up here, we put so many things kind of in a priority list, and it's one of the opportunities that I look at that I get to put human kindness and humankind in front of perception of nimbyism or perception of an issue that has not been proven or experienced anywhere else. We get to be the greater good and the greater good of humankind. It's an absolute no brainer for me. I'm surprised at some of the comments, but I understand them. I understand my council members and some of the parts of the people in the community who are looking at this at all angles and the areas that it needs to be improved. And I appreciate that, and that is the correct thing to do. We don't know what it looks like. So I'm 100% in support of the current location, simply because it's a park and we have so many events there that we don't notify neighbors. I don't think cleaning people is that big of a deal compared to 900 people getting drunk or balloons going off or anything else. We're giving people some dignity and cleaning them up and allowing them to go out in the world with a different smile on their face. I know homelessness is our number one issue in our state, and it's one of our top two issues in most Bay Area communities. I didn't expect a shower truck to change that. Thank you. I think one person is a benefit to the program. I think seven people is even further benefit and when we start getting into tens and double digits, it's a complete success. And we're on that path with just a few people that we've already taken care of. So I support the current location. I'm going to vote yes. I am very interested to hear other ideas. And like I wanted to make clear, if this isn't working, we have the opportunity to both get out of the pilot, which I don't see happening, but move it, find another location. But let's put those concerns aside until they manifest in something reality. Right now the reality is we're going to help some people that I think we have a duty to help, so that's it. |
| 01:59:43.06 | Joe Burns | Thank you. I'll go next. So I think we're all in agreement up here that we're all for showers. Like we're all for cleanliness, we're all for showers. There's no doubt about that, I don't think. And so now we look to the program and as I always do, I challenge the assumptions of whatever program is proposed and I look at the impact on the town. as we should in every consideration, and as we do in everything that's built or proposed or set forth in Sausalito normally, except for this program and the pilot program which was suggested, which was not vetted through the program. community outreach, which we were told was going to happen. And so we have residents and businesses in this town. who were not consulted, whose input was not taken, And the parameters, the minimum parameters of this facility were not taken into account about whether or not different sites are amenable. So that's my main problem with adopting the pilot program tonight as a procedural matter and as the outreach that we promised was going to happen did not happen. And so the second thing is, when you look at, as I said, we're all for showers. So one thing that we've talked about, I can't remember if we talked about it at city council meeting, but I know we've talked about it in smaller meetings, which is, you can very easily afford people a shower with shower bags, with camping shower bags. They're $20 a piece. Get them on Amazon. People that have boats, I lived on a boat for a year, and I can tell you we used our shower bag a whole lot more than we used the internal water system on our boat because it was just so much easier to use. So I would like, and I've said this to our fellow city council members in the past, I would like to look at that, and affording people who are living on the water or living, if they want to have that. objection to making that available. That makes sense to me. If you're looking at accessing, what's the purpose, and that's why I was asking so many questions about the purpose the showers, is it to transition people into housing? I am for housing, I am for the Housing First program. And if I think that there's a program in the county that's supposed to be affording housing and it's not, then we need to challenge those assumptions about why our citizens and our people on the water are not being afforded the ability, if they want to transition out, to have access to that housing. That is something that I would like to have brought back to us from the county before we implement any program that has zero chance, less than 1% chance of transitioning anybody into housing, which is why we have this pilot program before us. So to be clear, I'm for showers. And I want to look at ways that we can empower people to have showers on their boats and whenever they want them instead of waiting for two days a week, and I think that's well within our I want to challenge the county about why they're not affording us a bump for the point system, of helping people transition off the water as we're moving through phases of getting better, and Sausalito's water is better managed around the water. And why we're not invited to those conversations, and so that I think is going to come from either it's gonna come from Andrew or it's gonna come from Karen or Ashley or whoever it is at the county, that's who I would want to see next time when we come here for a meeting on this subject. So I am not ready to vote for this program because I don't think that it's been vetted properly. I think we can achieve the goals. Um, in a much better fashion if those are the stated goals, which I think that they are. And so that's where I would want to put my energy. an effort going forward. I'm perfectly happy to look at the program If we come back and these questions are answered by the county and by the service providers. |
| 02:03:56.07 | Joe Burns | Ray. |
| 02:03:56.40 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:04:05.03 | Serge Avila | Um... I have two major, scratch the word major, I don't know if they're major. I have two issues. I have two comments. The first is with regards to the analysis of the sites. Karen made the really important point about flexibility. The program needs to be flexible. That would say to me that as much as possible, we should try out multiple sites. That's the first thing. Second thing is, Even if You know, some analysis has been done to suggest that the marine ship park is the right site and it may very well be. Quite frankly, there's no analysis in the staff report. There's no Thank you. Each side has not been systematically analyzed. Pros and cons. And. Part of the reason why I'm asking that and asking for that is in relation to my second point, which is public outreach. Part of the reason for doing the analysis and actually explaining in writing why A certain church location won't work because you can't get a 45-foot truck up the hills. Well, let's get that down so that when you do public outreach, you can explain to people the facts about why some things work and others don't. person's gonna say, no, not in my neighborhood, it can be an A, B, C, or D. Well, if you've done the work properly to show it can't be an A, B, C, or D, someone is gonna be perhaps a little more likely to accept the analysis. And so I'm disturbed that we didn't. get more sort of a rigorous analysis. In public outreach, I don't know that we've had any, so I don't know. I don't know, I see we are well represented today. There's people here. But All honesty, and people I talk to, nobody knows this is going on. But, and maybe they don't care. Maybe they don't care, but I think they do. And the reason why I think they do is that if we explain to people what this is all about, I think a majority of Sausalito residents would be in favor of this. It's very simple. We just haven't done the explaining properly. So. My suggestion, and by the way, as far as I'm concerned, there will be mobile showers in Sol Soledo very shortly. Right? There's going to be. So the question is, You know, are we ready on November 1st, in November, to kick this off? I'm not so sure because of the public outreach. So, sorry, my phone's about to go off and I don't want to disturb this, so let me. It's buzzing and I know something terrible's going to happen. Okay, so. I will, my preference, to be frank, is to come back with multiple sites identified, to have a program initiated where these go to multiple sites. And part of the evaluation of the program is to see which sites work best. Okay? And if that means delaying the start of this to December, I'm okay with that, if we can get it right, and use the time in October and early November to continue with public outreach. But I think, as I said the last time, Based on all I've heard on the timetable, we need to have this program up and running by December 1st. in my view. |
| 02:08:27.81 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you, I agree. I too support mobile showers, and so I wanna be clear about that. I am working in numerous communities around the state on developing homelessness programs. So I'm a huge advocate for addressing homeless needs. My issue with this program that was presented to us tonight is process. We in February specifically requested identification of multiple sites with pros and cons that we could consider. And we specifically promised public outreach. So just as the anchor outs, ask that we provide them with outreach or ask that we come to RBRA meetings, which by the way, I have been attending. Doug, for several months. Um, I think it's important that we give public outreach to everyone concerned. When I give the county a hard time, about coordinated entry and a continuum of care. It's because I know there are some anchor outs who would like to come off the water. I believe all of the anchor outs are in danger during inclement weather. I'm a sailor, I know what it's like out there with currents and high winds. um, And I believe that this program should be an opportunity to make connections, not just to give showers. I think showers are a huge priority. They're important. We all love showers when we get to take them, so I definitely believe in addressing the dignity aspect. But I think we also have to be vigilant about addressing the needs of our anchor out population. And some of you want to come off the water and we need to, be more aggressive with the county in demanding the services that our population is entitled to. And so. um, That is the reason for my tough questions this evening to Andrew and to Karen and Bill Frost. Getting people off their boats who want to be off their boats is a priority. And I want to make sure that this mobile shower program is engineered to be able to accomplish that. My inclination is to ask staff to come back to us with the data that we requested in November. with a projected start date in December of a mobile shower program. And I too want to make it available in a range of sites. Chris Gallagher and the Army Corps of Engineers for making that dock available to facilitate the Marin Ship Park site. And that site may well be one of several viable sites. But I want to make sure that we identify other viable sites so that we can actually utilize this as a pilot program for its intended purpose, which is to explore the feasibility of a more permanent program in Sausalito. So that's my feeling. |
| 02:12:03.62 | Ray Withey | Since we're looking like three people are not going to go with the pilot right now and we're going to push this, can we ask Karen a question? |
| 02:12:16.26 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | And I would like to continue this to a date certain. So I'd like the staff to tell us when they can bring this back in November with the data and information that we've requested. Karen, can you come up to the podium so we can ask you a question? |
| 02:12:36.17 | Ray Withey | Is consistency of a location an important element to the population we're trying to serve? Or would there can be confusion with people who might not have access to the communication that we know it, get confused if we had multiple locations on multiple days and moved around too much? At what points are tipping point on multiple locations as opposed to a consistent location? |
| 02:12:59.10 | Karen Strolia | Consistency is key. So is communication. So if there's a way to get information out about different locations, then there can be a consistency in that. I don't know if that really was a very clear answer, but consistency is key. |
| 02:13:13.55 | Ray Withey | Thank you. |
| 02:13:16.22 | Joe Burns | I have a follow-up question too. I'm not sure. Is there a way that you could come to Sausalito? One of the access points is our library, frankly. to reaching a certain population. Or, you know, is there a way that you could come In addition to the mobile showers as part of your outreach to helping people access housing, as a pilot. to come just either to the library or someplace in city hall, for an hour or two on a consistent basis during the same trial period and help people integrate and access into. the homeless housing coordinated effort. |
| 02:13:59.96 | Karen Strolia | Currently our mobile shower staff, they are connecting to folks at the library at 7-Eleven, at Dunphy Park, and they're coming out here, I would say, every other week, every third week. |
| 02:14:10.96 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 02:14:12.04 | Karen Strolia | Unfortunately, because of our outreach capacity, that's as consistent as we can be right now. Like Andrew mentioned, we are seeking funding for that through county dollars and NOFAs that are coming up. that's |
| 02:14:23.85 | Joe Burns | So how many people are you reaching in those efforts? |
| 02:14:26.69 | Karen Strolia | I can't speak to that number right now. I don't know. |
| 02:14:29.76 | Joe Burns | But you can provide it to us before the next meeting. |
| 02:14:31.87 | Karen Strolia | Oh, yeah, absolutely. |
| 02:14:33.18 | Joe Burns | Okay. |
| 02:14:33.54 | Karen Strolia | Yeah. |
| 02:14:33.82 | Joe Burns | Yeah, I would be interested in that number, too. |
| 02:14:35.80 | Karen Strolia | I don't know if now is the time, but I wanted to walk you guys through a piece of what we worked with Novato on because there was a lot of community or concern from the council about their community and what that community outreach looked like. did was they hosted a community outreach It was like a meeting, but it was really a cookie and coffee info sesh. And I basically presented to anybody who showed up and answered any questions that community members had. And the idea is that it was really about reaching business owners, residents in the community within a certain number of feet of the showers being hosted. And we had questions that came up like, Um, there, Nevada specifically, there's a crossing path that goes from the skate park. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that community, but there's a population that lives in encampments in the skate park. This is also the same path that some kids were using to get to school, to the charter school, so there's a community concern. of that path being shared by folks who are in the experience of homelessness, and those kids who were using the same route at the same time. So what we did to help mitigate that was we had a volunteer who stood out there on that path during our shower shift. to make sure that there was no conflict on site. If there was any issues, what does that look like? And we reported back to the council through our monthly reports. There were no issues. We didn't see any paths crossing just because of the timing. But that's something else that just so you all know that that's When I say flexible, it's not just where can we put the showers and how can we host them. It really is what do you guys need for your community to see from us? What can we offer to really make this customizable to your population here? And whatever that means for you all. If you want me to come and do a community meeting, please let me know that. I would love to be a part of that, to do a Q&A. Whatever it takes, really. I know the need is here, and I would love to be here with our showers. |
| 02:16:31.09 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. Okay, I'll entertain a motion unless there's further comment. Yes. |
| 02:16:37.72 | Adam Politzer | You asked about the date. Yep. Our two dates in November are November 13th and November 27th. We have proposed coming back on the 13th. I had talked to Lieutenant Frost before this meeting. Obviously, we put forward an option to continue it to November, and we specifically thought we could come back. Listening to Karen and Andrew, I think there is an opportunity, as Council Members Cleveland Knowles and I experienced, we could probably bring the showers down here |
| 02:16:39.54 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Yep. |
| 02:17:04.75 | Adam Politzer | and have it here in the parking lot and hold a a meeting with the community so people can actually See it. Um, You know, so I think that would be a good opportunity. So between now and November 13th, I believe we can be prepared. |
| 02:17:19.22 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Okay. |
| 02:17:20.68 | Serge Avila | Madam Mayor, I think it's good to come back for date certain and to be clear that we're gonna vote that night on a program at one or more locations. |
| 02:17:37.20 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | We're going to pass a program that night. |
| 02:17:39.20 | Serge Avila | Right, and so, I mean this is very important because if we just come back and we just circle around saying there's not been enough outreach, there's not been enough outreach. So we need to be very clear, and I think Karen you're very helpful here, as to what outreach there's going to be. |
| 02:17:39.57 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Yeah. |
| 02:18:00.19 | Serge Avila | Can we squeeze in a community event at the Bay Model, if Chris could like us? Or something that we have a presentation, have the mobile showers. I've been inside these. |
| 02:18:00.24 | Paul Mowry | Thank you. |
| 02:18:00.27 | Unknown | Can we squeeze in? |
| 02:18:11.34 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | So have I. |
| 02:18:11.70 | Serge Avila | Twice. I know what they're like, but I think it would be very helpful for the community to actually see them and understand what this is all about. |
| 02:18:25.13 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | I agree. So in terms of outreach, I expect outreach to all neighbors surrounding any potential site, as well as outreach to our community in general about us undertaking this program, as well as a community meeting. Um, at a central location at a time typically convenient for residents and members of the public. to attend. So all of that needs to happen in October so that we're geared up to move forward on November 13th. |
| 02:19:03.84 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Any other? |
| 02:19:06.64 | Joe Burns | Yeah, this is a follow-up. From Andrew and Karen, how do we access that group to get a multiplier for vulnerability, I'm sorry, I can't say it, vulnerability assessment? Or is that just a no? Because, I mean, that's something we... It's a no for now, so I'm going to reach out. |
| 02:19:26.08 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | I don't know. It's a no for now, so I'm going to reach out to you. Kate Sears our County Supervisor okay cuz |
| 02:19:30.45 | Joe Burns | Okay, because I mean that's- |
| 02:19:31.75 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Yeah. |
| 02:19:32.21 | Joe Burns | you. |
| 02:19:32.29 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | to the community. |
| 02:19:32.34 | Joe Burns | you know. |
| 02:19:32.58 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | you. |
| 02:19:32.60 | Joe Burns | to know that. |
| 02:19:33.03 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | that. |
| 02:19:33.39 | Joe Burns | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:19:33.42 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | No one got back to me and told me that we had been told no, and so I was not aware of that. So I'm going to reach out to Kate Sears. |
| 02:19:34.43 | Joe Burns | Exactly. |
| 02:19:40.90 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | directly. Okay, may I have a motion? |
| 02:19:55.80 | Serge Avila | Okay, I move that we direct city staff to return on date certain, November 13th, with an evaluation of multiple sites, preceding that to have arranged and conducted a community workshop at a convenient time. And if Marine Mobile can help us there with that presentation that would be wonderful that's not really a motion but and that's enough of a motion I think to |
| 02:20:26.90 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | And I'm not sure. |
| 02:20:29.60 | Serge Avila | Right. |
| 02:20:29.65 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | And also demonstrate outreach to all of the businesses surrounding any proposed, and neighbors surrounding proposed sites. Right. |
| 02:20:33.01 | Serge Avila | Yeah. Yep. |
| 02:20:39.86 | Serge Avila | Is that good enough, Adam and Mary? Yeah. |
| 02:20:40.75 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Yeah. Second. Serge, will you call the roll? |
| 02:20:50.73 | City Clerk | Councilmember Withey? Yes. Councilmember Cleveland Knowles? Yes. Councilmember Hoffman? Yes. Vice Mayor Burns? |
| 02:20:57.04 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Yes. |
| 02:20:58.96 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
| 02:20:58.98 | Doug Storms | No. |
| 02:21:00.16 | City Clerk | Mayor Cox. |
| 02:21:01.09 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Yes, that motion carries for one. Thank you. |
| 02:21:10.27 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | All right, does anyone need a quick break or can we move on? Yeah. |
| 02:21:13.71 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:21:13.76 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:21:13.96 | Unknown | I'm okay. |
| 02:21:15.40 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 02:21:15.42 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:21:15.45 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | you |
| 02:21:15.64 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:21:16.01 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Do you need a break? No. OK. We're going to take a two minute break for personal convenience. |
| 02:21:24.07 | Alice Merrill | Serge, are you ready? |
| 02:21:24.90 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Serge, are you ready? |
| 02:21:28.43 | Ray Withey | That's right. |
| 02:21:28.92 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 02:21:28.93 | Ray Withey | Thank you. you |
| 02:21:29.45 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 02:21:29.98 | Ray Withey | Hi. Thank you. |
| 02:21:31.33 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Serge, am I on? Okay, next on our agenda is the Sausalito Waterfront Management Plan update, and adopt a resolution accepting the Surrendered and Abandoned Vessel Exchange Grant Agreement for 2018 to 2020 and appropriating save grant funds. And again, Lieutenant Frost. |
| 02:21:51.04 | Bill Frost | Good evening, Lieutenant Bill Frost, Sausalito Police Department, and I'm happy to be presenting our Waterfront Management Plan update. as well as asking the council to adopt the save grant. I always like to start these out with a little bit of a historical perspective regarding Sausalito and our waterfront history. Especially when it deals with the Sausalito Police Department, being this in our 125th year as a police department and as a city. As you see right here, there's a picture. The Sausalito Sergeant who's actually entering that cutout And that wouldn't right there that's actually the deck of a yacht that was abandoned on the Sausalito waterfront in the area of Marin ships. in 1957. The sergeant that's entering it is Howard Gorant. I'm not sure. There was an escaped murderer from St. Quentin. He was seen in the area of the waterfront And the two... custodial officers, and Sergeant Gorin, actually made entry to search for the individual. While he was in the area, they didn't catch him there. It was later. little. Interesting trivia about Sergeant Gorant, before he joined the Sausalito Police Department in World War II, he served as a U.S. Navy frogman. precursor of the US Navy SEALs. He then became Sausalito Police Chief after, and he was credited with saving 19 people from a burning, Inferno, as the newspaper called it, of a residential hotel on Sausalito that had caught fire, and he personally went in, saved 19 people. Why I mention that is not only an extraordinary act of on an individual who had a huge impact on the police department. But the type of people that the Sausalito Police Department had then and currently has today working on the issues along the waterfront. And as you could see, from previous presentations. The issues on the waterfront are long-lasting issues. We're working at trying to solve them and developing long-lasting solutions. We've seen acts of piracies from the 1890s, to the issues had mutinies in the 1920s. to incidents like this. issues that we're going to continue to work on. Hopefully we never see another mutiny again. but issues on the waterfront. we wanna continue to address. So, little background. Last June, actually June 20th, 2017 the council adopted the waterfront management plan This authorized the hiring of part-time personnel to work in conjunction with Sausso Police and the Marin County Sheriff's and the Richardson Bay Regional Agency to more effectively manage the Sausalito waterfront. This also called for continued cooperation with, in partnership with the between the Sossow Police Department the Marin County Sheriff's Office and the Richardson Bay Regional Agency |
| 02:24:34.62 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:24:34.64 | Paul Mowry | Thank you. |
| 02:24:39.45 | Bill Frost | So at that time, we also laid out a set of priorities that we want our waterfront management plan to focus on. Our highest priorities were the removal of marine debris vessels, the removal of unoccupied vessels used as storage unregistered vessels in vessels that were occupied by persons who were a danger to themselves or others. The lowest priorities that we set were vessels that were occupied, that were licensed and as well that we're in possession of a waste disposal contract or utilizing a similar form of service. staffing We still have a marine survey team. that is going out conducting monthly surveys. We have a technician who is preparing reports. While we have cash authorized for the hiring of part-time personnel, while we're still recruiting for these positions, but they're very difficult to fill. We've had several conversations with people, but nobody's really wanted to go to the next because it's a very detailed, specific skill set not all previous law enforcement have. And also we're looking at a core cadre of retirement officers that have found out they enjoy retirement. So they may not want to go back and put on a vest and a gun and do police work. We continue to reach out, we continue to look, It also makes us focus on the future and that we may need to adapt and possibly look at rotating between part-time, maybe full-time, maybe not strictly law enforcement officers, maybe a different type of harbor master. or a different type of regulatory aspect. But those are actually things we're still considering and looking about. Surveys, we're still conducting as many monthly surveys as we can. We've conducted 14 since July of 2017. THE END OF THE We try to do them monthly. There are times, and depending on staffing and depending on conditions, we can't get it every single month but we have a good representation of. the vessels out there. And what we're looking at is currently, as of our last survey in August 22nd, we had 69 vessels altogether in Sausalito waters. Three of those 69 vessels were actually dinghies or small vessels that were occupying a mooring ball. We count those so we get an idea of that another large vessel could be in that location. As you look, our numbers have gone down from a high of 77 to number 69. it's not a huge improvement but it's constant improvement it's us continue and look Thank you. AT the waterfront, trying to document the vessels that are out there and trying to find out what are true numbers are. And then we did a little further digging into the numbers that are out on the water. And as of the August 2018 surveys out of those 69 vessels, we have found out that 38 of them have been documented in every single survey. Seven other vessels have been documented in 12 or 13 of the 14 surveys. and that in this last survey, Brand new boats showed up. So what we're seeing is there is a solid group of vessels that had been out there for a long period of time. When we talk with our analyst who does our reports for us, she did a master's degree program approximately five years ago, regarding waterways, boat congestion, and she documented vessels on Sausalito waters. And when you compare her notes from five years ago to the data that we have now, Several of the same boats, not only in our waters, the waters of RBRA's jurisdiction, such as the county sheriff's jurisdiction, Tiburon, Belvedere, most, a lot of the boats are in the same exact location. When you break down those 69 vessels, we find that In our waters, approximately 29 are occupied. 32 appeared to be unoccupied. Five, it's very difficult to tell. I'm not sure. based on the condition of the vessels, based on what's on the vessels, Those are things we are still looking at. And we had three diggies. I want to focus on the number of 32 unoccupied vessels because later on in the presentation I'm going to be talking about progressing to a next step of our waterfront management plan and we're going to break down those 32 a little bit further. But I want that number to be there. Out of the 69 vessels that are in our waters, 32 are unoccupied. They're sitting there being used as either storage or being stored on our waters. As we continue to do our surveys, we're using our high technology GIS mapping to document the exact locations of the vessels, all the facts of the vessels, information regarding the vessels and the movement of the vessels. This information is being utilized then by our law enforcement patrols to do enforcement activity. |
| 02:29:40.77 | Bill Frost | One of the aspects that occurred since our last briefing was the city of Sausalito asked the United States Coast Guard for clarification regarding proper jurisdiction of Richardson Bay. The United States Coast Guard has stated that Richardson Bay is a special anchorage that is regulated by local ordinances and laws. This opinion confirmed the long-standing belief the city of Sausalito had regarding our authority and our jurisdiction. As a special anchorage, the regulations basically state that vessels under the size of 63 feet do not have to have a constant light on anchored. and they do not have to constantly sound a horn. THE END OF THE END OF THE But, Anything else regarding activity on the water is regulated and under the authority of local jurisdictions And this came about after we were dealing with an individual who was illegally moored in the waters of Dunphy Park, And we wanted to make sure that we had All our friends. Ducks in a row. and make sure that our jurisdiction was solid. So if we actually had to prosecute the person criminal court. that there would be no questions of jurisdiction, or issues regarding our authority. And Coast Guard has confirmed this opinion. Now we are moving as part of our waterfront management plan to some of our next highest set of priorities is those vessels that are on Sausalito waters that are being stored on our waters or being left abandoned on our waters. And we're looking at moving into a 72-hour removal program. after community notification in a community meeting We have already started communication. community notification by distributing flyers. and we have set a community meeting the social police department plans on posting 72-hour in-pound notices upon those unoccupied vessels that are being stored on Sausalito waters. After 72 hours, if the unoccupied vessels have not been removed from Sausalito waters, the vessels can be impounded per Sausalito city ordinance, 16.04100 B. The vessel's owner, if known, will be notified that the vessel has been impounded, And if it's not claimed within 90 days, the vessel will be abated using grant funds. So this is gonna come into play with those 32 vessels unoccupied. We have looked at those 32 unoccupied vessels, and we have dwindled a list of 17 priority vessels we want to concentrate on. based on logistics and support the local area we impound in their capabilities. we would be looking at an initial impact of trying to impound six vessels and then moving from there. It's impossible to impound all 32 vessels or even 17 at a time. But we're gonna find out of those 17 priority vessels, the six worst offenders, Thank you. Mark those for 72 hours. and move forward with that. and then continue forward with other vessels as we move through. |
| 02:32:44.56 | Jill Hoffman | Question. |
| 02:32:45.23 | Bill Frost | Yes. |
| 02:32:45.47 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, can you just, so what was it about the 17 vessels and the six vessels? |
| 02:32:52.25 | Bill Frost | Well, as we look through, it's condition of vessels. |
| 02:32:52.30 | Jill Hoffman | Well, I think. |
| 02:32:56.32 | Bill Frost | location of vessels that could be a danger as well as size, impact. and public nuisance as well as attractive nuisance. We want to remove vessels that could continue to be problems or problematic to the community. |
| 02:33:11.22 | Jill Hoffman | OK. And is the sixth? out of the 17 because of financial constraints, time constraints, the amount of time of a legal proceeding, why six? |
| 02:33:22.66 | Bill Frost | Well, because six is the capacity that our impound yard could actually hold at one time. Okay. They can't hold anymore, so that's why we would go with six. |
| 02:33:28.25 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 02:33:32.85 | Bill Frost | Thank you. |
| 02:33:32.87 | Ray Withey | Thank you. |
| 02:33:32.92 | Bill Frost | And that's... |
| 02:33:33.71 | Ray Withey | That counts the ground tackle and everything, the mooring ball and everything. |
| 02:33:35.45 | Bill Frost | Exactly, yes. If we take the vessel, we will take ground table, ground tackle and the mooring ball. The aspect is if the vessel is abated after 90 days, we could use our grant funding to pay for the abate. if the vessel is claimed by the owner, The owner then will reimburse the city. for the cost of the tow and the cost of the impound and the cost of the storage. just as if a car is impounded. The same process. |
| 02:34:08.97 | Bill Frost | Some of the vessels we would look at towards abating are vessels such as these. They do not meet marine debris, laws, they are their criteria but, The vessel has no people living on it. They're just being used, stored out there on the water. instead of being in a slip or in a marina, They're basically parked. and have been either abandoned or being left on the water as cars are left on the street for long-term parking or long-term mooring. |
| 02:34:41.40 | Bill Frost | So as we move forward through our plans. Lieutenant, before that. |
| 02:34:42.73 | Serge Avila | So... Lieutenant, before you move on to the trash collection of it, |
| 02:34:46.83 | Bill Frost | Thank you. |
| 02:34:48.74 | Serge Avila | Of the, sorry, I can't remember the numbers again. Twenty something and then 32 were unoccupied, right? Of those, 17 are like critical and six are gonna work. Okay. |
| 02:34:52.22 | Unknown | Seven days. |
| 02:34:52.57 | Bill Frost | for the next one. |
| 02:35:02.10 | Serge Avila | Of those 17 or six, Do you have any data to know if they're owned by any of the folks who are in the occupied vessels? |
| 02:35:17.75 | Bill Frost | We have done registered owner checks on all the vessels that we have good information on. So we can cross-reference and determine if they are owned. There are some vessels out there that we have numerous individuals that are living on them and then store other boats that are out there. I can't give you the exact number here, but we do have that capability of being able to tell if a person who's living on one boat owns several other boats. |
| 02:35:44.36 | Serge Avila | So obviously, my question was leading, of the six you're going to prioritize, are the owners living on Richardson Bay? |
| 02:35:54.91 | Bill Frost | In two cases, yes. Richardson Bay, very fluid situation. Some day they're living on it, some day they're not. Others may be out in county waters. It's very difficult. We are not tracking their waters. But in at least two of the vessels, yes, they are. |
| 02:36:13.52 | Bill Frost | Any further questions regarding |
| 02:36:14.85 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | No, continue please. |
| 02:36:17.17 | Bill Frost | Well, as part of our holistic approach regarding the actions on waterfront management plan. We're planning on doing a secondary trash collection event. I know the plan date is November 18th. This would be held by the Sausalud Police Department, Marin County Sheriff's Office, Richardson Bay Regional Agency, and the Marin County Health and Human Services. We're looking at basically spending about four to five hours having debris bags handed out to the community members, allowing them to pack up debris and either depositing themselves on a barge that will have a debris box on it, or contacting Workboats that will be transiting trash from vessels to the debris board. There's multiple goals for this. The first one is to help vessels remove debris and dangerous items from their decks before the storm season. We don't want to have a horrible storm season and have debris, hazmat, and other issues wash into the water. way. or have issues fall on vessels that could further deteriorate those vessels that could cause them to become marine debris or cause the vessels then to break up. and cause hazmat, or other issues upon the water. The second aspect is we want individuals to get into compliance with Sausalito Municipal Codes as well as Richardson Bay Municipal Codes regarding debris, trash and unauthorized dangerous items that they actually can store on their deck unsecured. And the last aspect is we want the Marine County Health and Human Services to be able to try to contact individuals and offer them services to see if they want possibly try to get off the waterways or offer other services to assist them in finding housing, or getting other services to help them with their lives. |
| 02:38:03.86 | Bill Frost | Like I talked about, we're gonna have public outreach. There is going to be a meeting in October. Saucel Police Department will be hosting at Southern Marin Fire Protection District Station No. 1. which is the main fire station right over here. we're going to use this meeting twofold. Number one is to inform the public of the specifics of the trash collection event. Let them know the time, the dates, the, how many bags they could have, who to contact to have garbage delivered off of their vessel or where the debris boat will be. The second aspect is to inform the public of the plans to remove unoccupied vessels being stored on Richardson Bay and listen to the community's feedback. We have been telling the community for over two years that this is going to be one of our parts of our waterfront management plan. as we progress through We want to inform them once again that this will be happening. We're looking for unoccupied vessels that are being stored on Sausalito waters using our city ordinance for 72 hours. As I've said already, we have posted flyers We're going to post additional information and our Marine Patrol unit will also be distributing letters on unoccupied vessels or notices on unoccupied vessels to state that this is the ordinance and to try to allow people to get into accordance to those laws when possible. |
| 02:39:18.94 | Paul Mowry | you know. |
| 02:39:30.28 | Bill Frost | Now let's transition to the enforcement aspect. Since our last meeting, we have abated one vessel through the Vessel Turn-In Program. This is part of our grant, we have to accept vessels from people that want to turn them in for destruction. The good thing about this program, it allows us to remove vessels from the waterway before they can get into our waterways and become attractive nuisances. So this 30-foot vessel, which was probably bound for the anchorage or bound for our waters, was taken from one of are marinas before they Individuals could use it for other reasons, and were able to dispose of the vessels. We were able to abate a vessel that we impounded back in April. That was conducted on August 10th, but that was illegally moored in Dunphy Park waters. was abated. Um, We gave him in excess of 90 days. We provided him two proper noticings. We spoke to him in person, informed him what the process was to try to get his boat out of the impound yard. He never claimed his vessel. and that was abated on August 10th. And that was covered by are Save Grant. The key with our save grant is when we're abating 72 hour vessels, it covers the costs of the tow covers the cost of the destruction. covers the cost of the first 30 days of impound. After the first 30 days of impound, I'm not sure. Then, Half of that gets covered. The city has to pay for the other half. It's approximately $30 a day in power. |
| 02:41:04.70 | Bill Frost | This was pictures of the abandoned vessel that we abated for 72 hours. It was, you see, it was in Duffy Park water, so that was the date we invaded. It was a vessel that was deteriorating rapidly. So while it wasn't marine debris yet, it was bound to be marine debris. It was taking on water. beginning to form holes in there. There was one area where the guy was using cloth and clothing to try to patch up a hole that was basically you could poke your finger through the side of the boat. |
| 02:41:38.08 | Bill Frost | enforcement regarding marine debris. As of a decade, Yesterday we had marked three vessels for as being marine debris vessels. In addition, we marked two additional vessels today. We had a patrol go out there, so we have five vessels currently marked as marine debris. when the legal statutes of 10 days passes, we're planning on abating those vessels. Three of the vessels could be abated very soon. We're working with our impound services or destruction services and our service providers to make this happen as soon as possible. This is one picture of the vessel. It's a vessel that's been in our waters for approximately five to six years. |
| 02:42:11.57 | Paul Mowry | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:42:16.23 | Bill Frost | And while it entered our water in good conditions, now it is not in good condition, as you obviously see, rotting woods, broken masts, every kind of piece of debris on deck and I spoke to the owner of this vessel, and he even admits it's marine debris. and we're continuing to investigate other marine debris vessels as well. We probably have about two or three more that are on our radar. We have to do some further investigation on before we can mark those. And these are two other pictures of the marine debris vessels that marked that are coming up on dates for destruction. THE END OF THE The red one right there was once a power boat. It actually had pieces of a piano on it. I don't know how they got a piano on it. powerboat, but it did. The other one is beginning to get dry rot in The wood is beginning compromised. And also, doesn't have a tiller, has broken parts No engine. No sales. they have no ways of being seaworthy or making themselves seaworthy, and they're falling apart. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:43:19.12 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Well, I will open it up for public comment after his presentation is complete. |
| 02:43:24.32 | Bill Frost | As we go further into enforcement, during this last time period, we've issued citations for expired vessel registration. Nuisance vessels such as debris on dock or on deck, and for people mooring in the restricted waters of Dunphy Park. While on patrol also, our officers have arrested one individual for being in possession of a stolen vessel, and they recovered that vessel and returned it to its rightful owner. |
| 02:43:51.14 | Bill Frost | as part of our entire working with the city. The working group, Sauceloo Waterfront Working Group, has met routinely regarding the progress of our waterfront management plan. Last date was August 4th. Part of the items that we discussed were the Richardson Bay Regional Agency's possible plan regarding development of a possible mooring field on Richardson Bay. as well as the Sausalito Police Department's proposal to begin impounding unoccupied vessels that are being stored in Sausalito waters for excessive 72 hours. |
| 02:44:26.71 | Bill Frost | The chief and I attended another Coast Guard abandoned derelict vessel work group meeting on the 22nd of August. One of the key things this is we found out that Everybody in the San Francisco Bay and the Delta region are dealing with marine debris vessels vessels that are being dumped vessels that are falling apart vessels that are being transited from one jurisdiction to the other, and we're all dealing with trying to how to abate these from our waterways so they do not become more of a hazard. This is a good place for us to discuss about strategies, talk about the laws, and also find out who's doing what so we can model our plans over it. During these meetings, we actually were able to meet the individual who created the marine debris law here in California. That person actually listened to what we were doing and had high marks for what the city of Sausalito was doing. And also he liked the process that we were using for abating marine debris. as well as utilizing our GIS surveys to be tracking and doing specific enforcement and specific goal setting of our plans and our vessel priority listing. Now that brings us to the SAVE grant. So in April of this year, we applied for an additional 129,000 $800 in grant funding from California's Division of Boating and Waterways. In July, we were notified that we were granted our request for the amount we requested. the grant would be effective from October 1st of this year until September 30th of 2020. It's the same grant we applied for two years ago. We were awarded, and again, the same exact amount. The use of the grant is last time. It will be utilized for abating vessels that meet the definition of marine debris, abating vessels that have been abandoned per the California harbors and navigation codes, abating vessels that have been turned in for destruction. as part of the owner's request. And it could be also used for abating vessels that have not been registered or federally documented for over one year, per California Harbor's navigation codes. From dealing with the Division of Boating and Waterways, we have found that If we're gonna use our funds to bait vessels with expired registration, we have to use the same process that we do for vessels that are abandoned. So if we do impound vessels, for this, we have to wait 90 days provide proper noticing to owners, Allow them an opportunity to reclaim their vessel after it gets registered. AND I THINK IT'S A If that does happen, we would have to follow the same protocols about if the vessel gets abated, the grant will cover it. If it doesn't, they would reimburse the city for the costs of towing, impounding, and storing the vessel. The alternatives to accepting the grant that we're proposing that you adopt is that the city allocates similar funds to the budget for us to a bait marine debris and derelict vessels. Or we take no action, we take no action, and allow the jurisdictional waters of Sausalito and Richardson Bay to maintain a growing population or status quo number of vessels. We don't endorse... Either one, we endorse Please, actually begging you, please adopt the SAVE grant. A little feedback about our last SAVE grant is as of approximately three weeks ago, we have spent, $80,990.52 of our grant funds from 2006 to 2018. We have another grant Reimbursement requests will be being sent out prior to after September 30th. And what we have found is the reason why we didn't spend as much money as we anticipated was in the beginning, our funds were going towards the abatement of mooring balls. And we are working in partnership with the Richardson Bay Regional Agency and the Sheriff's Office. the cost of removing marine debris. as we move forward and we're dealing with abandoned vessels and we are dealing with more marine debris and it's us working still in conjunction with them but being the masters of our own funds that we will be spending a larger amount from, and I do not see us having an issue getting close. We do, as part of our grant, we do have to offer up our funds to outside organizations. who have done work that need additional funds so we do have a request from the Contra Costa Sheriff's Office for the abatement of marine debris It's in the area of approximately $1,800 that we will be resubmitting with our grants from the 16-18. It's part of the grant you sign when you agree that you would help each other out because one vessel could be. destroy a grant because one vessel could be $75,000. |
| 02:49:07.69 | Jill Hoffman | So does that money, the leftover money, move over into the next grant period, or do we lose that money? |
| 02:49:13.04 | Bill Frost | It's lost, yes. Part of the grant is suspended or lose it. |
| 02:49:20.27 | Jill Hoffman | We've still got a couple days left in September. |
| 02:49:21.95 | Bill Frost | And that's what we have is we're looking at abating hopefully three vessels in the next couple days, and we're looking at other vessels as well. |
| 02:49:29.92 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. Thank you. |
| 02:49:33.09 | Bill Frost | So regarding fiscal of 2018-2020, we need to do a match of 10% which would be approximately $12,980. That could be done in in-kind work. So we don't have to give cash at the officers hourly rates regarding going out and doing work. The grant funds will be received in the city's general capital projects fund. And the total, when you look at the 10% match, as well as our grant awarding, or the total cost project for the grant is approximately $142,780. The same exact amount as last time. Our recommendations for this presentation today is first, receive and file the staff report and this PowerPoint presentation. And the Sausal Police Department and the City of Sausalito recommends that the Council adopts the resolution acceptance of the Surrendered and Abandoned Vessels Exchange Grant agreement for 2018 and 2020 and appropriate the save grant funds as necessary which is 129,800 dollars With that, I am happy to answer any questions the council may have. |
| 02:50:48.64 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Any other questions? |
| 02:50:51.07 | Bill Frost | Thank you. |
| 02:50:51.12 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:50:51.51 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | I'll open it up for public comment. Jeff Jacob. |
| 02:51:03.31 | Unknown | All right. |
| 02:51:10.73 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. We leave the mic there and stand at the podium. You address us. Please put the mic back in and stand. |
| 02:51:14.83 | Jeff Jacobs | You address us. |
| 02:51:17.40 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 02:51:17.43 | Jeff Jacobs | Thank you. |
| 02:51:17.45 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 02:51:17.46 | Jeff Jacobs | put the mic on. |
| 02:51:17.92 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 02:51:17.93 | Jeff Jacobs | back in the stand. |
| 02:51:18.97 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 02:51:19.03 | Jeff Jacobs | Thank you. |
| 02:51:19.44 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | you |
| 02:51:19.52 | Jeff Jacobs | So the real reason |
| 02:51:24.25 | Jeff Jacobs | that Adam and Chava, Adam and Eve, fell was because Adam made another rule for Eve. Cha said, do not eat from the tree. Adam said to Eve, after she appeared from a river in the back of the country, look at it, Do not eat or do not touch that tree. |
| 02:51:49.56 | Jeff Jacobs | That's what I see here is more added rules upon rules upon rules benefiting the police and the lawyers and the courts and the guards who give more money to politicians than any other union in California. I see people slave to money. |
| 02:52:12.73 | Jeff Jacobs | An Israelite. does not have an issue representing justice. |
| 02:52:22.18 | Jeff Jacobs | When it is demanded, like it was of Jonah. And Jonah tries to hide His shipmates. on the boat that's no longer an anchor boat, but journeying. You can hear me, can't you? Ray, can you hear me? |
| 02:52:39.73 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | The home viewers can't hear you, but perhaps you don't mind. Oh, that's all right. |
| 02:52:41.38 | Jeff Jacobs | so you don't mind. That's all right. Okay. That's all right. Maybe they've already tuned out. It's kind of later. |
| 02:52:49.58 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:52:49.60 | Jeff Jacobs | Jonah couldn't |
| 02:52:50.58 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:52:50.61 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Please don't shout. |
| 02:52:50.95 | Jeff Jacobs | Don't shout. Oh, don't shout now. |
| 02:52:54.58 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Nothing has changed. |
| 02:52:54.78 | Jeff Jacobs | That's why I was standing away from the microphone. Nothing has changed, Jeff. Okay, the police department, my bike now has a chain around it. |
| 02:52:56.75 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Nothing has changed, Jeff. |
| 02:53:02.98 | Jeff Jacobs | courtesy of the police department, with an orange tag on it saying it's got to be removed. That is our law system today. A double bind, contradiction in terms designed to oppress my people. Enough is enough. Thank you, Kelly. I'm still here. OK, I want the prisoners released now. I don't want any more of taking poor people and seeing them as Profit centers. From this anchorage, yes, we do have housing. The Blue Roof Inn. Marin Civic Center. Frank Lloyd Wright designed it after his family was murdered by his handyman. Interesting fact. And now, when somebody very far down the line has had their dignity taken away day after day, week after week, something happens and they end up there. So yes, you do provide housing. We don't need that housing. anymore. Let my people go. |
| 02:54:12.39 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | THANK YOU, JESS. |
| 02:54:12.76 | Jeff Jacobs | Thank you. |
| 02:54:13.03 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. Any other comments? |
| 02:54:13.06 | Jeff Jacobs | Thank you. |
| 02:54:14.89 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Okay, if you want to speak, please fill out a speaker card. Thank you. You can go ahead and step forward. Thank you. |
| 02:54:22.67 | David | Yeah. |
| 02:54:22.72 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Yeah. |
| 02:54:23.41 | David | I'm not sure. I just would like to say, I would just like to make a quick comment about the youth that have boats in the Sausalito waters. I have a 13 year old daughter and she has a small 24 foot Yankee dolphin sailboat which is moored in Sausalito waters. She doesn't live on it because she lives on my boat with me in the county waters. But there's other youth that have smaller sailing vessels that don't have the money to put them in a berth or there's Casa Sailing Marina isn't open for sailing of that sort. There isn't anything in this town other than being a member of one of the yacht clubs per se that offers youth anywhere to store their boats. Going forward with the Sausalito plan, which I think is great. I have no problem with any aspect of it. I think it's completely on track. I've been out there for 30 years and I think Sausalito Police Department's smart for doing their own thing and taking care of things their own way because it's going to get done. But in going forward, you need to consider the youth of Sausalito. I'm talking about kids between the age of 12 and 18 that have smaller sailing vessels that are stored, I guess you would call it, in Sausalito waters. they're registered, so they're not the low hanging fruit, but they are still fruit. I'm not sure. Just keep in mind maybe putting something in this whole clause, maybe to protect them or to assist them, put some of this money aside to assist them to get their boats into a marina if they absolutely have to. I mean, there's got to be something we can do so that the kids can keep their sailboats and not have to be under the blight of this whole process as it goes forward, because it is an element of our boating community that we should take into effect. Thank you. |
| 02:55:58.99 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you, David. |
| 02:56:05.57 | David Sudo | So since we just celebrated our 125th birthday, I would point out that 124 years ago, the position of Sausalito Harbor Master was created by the county to keep the channels clear. And in fact, one of the possible penalties was prison time for mooring in the channel. But we don't do that anymore, fortunately. No, they do it. Yeah, they do. But I would point out also historically that when we made this – |
| 02:56:27.81 | Jeff Jacobs | They do it. |
| 02:56:28.47 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 02:56:36.11 | David Sudo | bargain back I think in the 70s or the 80s about moving our anchor outs to the shore, that the marinas, for their part, were supposed to provide reduced-cost berths for those anchor outs. And I would just look and see if our marinas, in fact, do provide a certain number of low-cost berths for our anchor out or previously anchor out. And if they're not, we should hold them to that part of the agreement. Because the reason why we've been trying to move all these anchor outs is because the marinas were developed with the assumption that the anchor outs would move to those marinas. if we made an agreement a long time ago as part of that development of those marinas to house some of those anchor outs. And we need to be holding them also accountable as we hold the anchor outs accountable. Thank you. |
| 02:57:34.33 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | All right, anybody else? All right, I'm going to close public comment and bring it up here for discussion or a motion. |
| 02:57:44.37 | Jill Hoffman | I just had one more question for the lieutenant. So you mentioned that two new vessels had appeared. If those are net new, meaning that they just didn't come from county waters, is there a different policy on newly arrived boats versus Thank you. folks that have been out there for a while. |
| 02:58:06.97 | Bill Frost | We still hold them. accountable and to the same laws and regulations. However, we're tracking And then we have to do a little bit more research about those vessels to find out who they belong to. and where they came from. depending on the conditions of the vessel and the circumstances of the vessel, they may go up higher on the list, or they may be somewhere in the middle of the list for removal. But we had to take it vessel by vessel. We have to have apply the laws fairly, but with a view of the totality of or total project, which making sure we're addressing the troublesome vessels first. |
| 02:58:45.55 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:58:49.48 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | If there are no comments, I move approval of a resolution of the City Council of the City of Sausalito authorizing the use of California Division of Boating and Waterway Grant funds. |
| 02:58:59.85 | Jill Hoffman | So good. |
| 02:59:01.15 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | All in favor? |
| 02:59:02.08 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:59:02.18 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Aye. That motion carries 5-0. Thank you. We have at least two members of the public here, I'm sorry Andy, for the bicycle parking and congestion management. So apologies, but unless the city manager objects, I'm going to hear that item next. |
| 02:59:26.70 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Stacy, I surprised you. |
| 02:59:38.60 | Stacy | It's a good surprise, by the way. |
| 02:59:40.96 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | And we're still 40 minutes behind, so... |
| 02:59:45.05 | Stacy | Thank you. |
| 02:59:45.06 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Make it all up. |
| 02:59:45.10 | Unknown | Pick it all up. |
| 02:59:45.69 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 02:59:47.69 | Unknown | Throats. |
| 02:59:48.73 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Yeah. Thank you. |
| 02:59:50.01 | Unknown | it. |
| 02:59:51.04 | Stacy | We're done. Thank you. |
| 02:59:57.97 | Stacy | Thank you. Okay, you asked for it. Hold on. Okay, so we're gonna talk about the congestion management bicycle update for July and August, as the last update we did was in June. We'll talk about the sauce little bike return, the ferry landing. enforcement of illegal bike parking, and the taxi ordinance. So a lot of this is just going to be numbers. So you can see how this year's numbers compare to last year's numbers. You'll see that this year, July is down 5%. Looks like August is down. The counts coming into town are down 9%. And the way the weeks are laid out is kind of funny because I think in July, you know, there was – |
| 03:00:44.50 | Paul Mowry | Yeah. |
| 03:00:46.93 | Stacy | One day and. 17 and 18, it was a full week. So bear with me on that, but it's the only way we can compare week to week. So parking permits sold. Compared to last year, this year's down 23%. That's been a consistent number throughout the months that we've seen as far as being down from last year. permits sold in August, down 22%. So we're seeing the parking revenue will mirror the exact parking numbers. So that's little bike return. pretty consistent with their numbers from last year. I think the reason for that is that they're kind of maxing out the the bicycle companies that they work with. I mean, the bicycle companies that they work with are smaller. And I think they're They're really maximizing what they can return with those companies. So this number, the 2404, compared to last year, they return 2067. So they're up a little bit there. And then we got August 1697. In 2017, it was actually 1718, 1,718 bikes. So they're staying pretty consistent, and they've really worked out a great system with the return. They don't have to return every day. They've got a whole system in place with the companies that they're working with. So that's been really successful. Just to give you an idea of their weekly revenues in July and then in August |
| 03:02:43.13 | Stacy | So one thing that Soss Little Bike Return did do before I go into the queuing is for a three week period They started counting bikes that were actually riding back up the hill And so they found that Uh... 9 to 11 percent of the daily bikes that came in were actually riding back up. So I thought that was kind of neat and Joe, they are still keeping track of the weather on a daily basis. I think at the end of the year, we'll have a lot of information that we'll be able to look at. They unfortunately did have some employee... hiccups, a couple sick days. So we do have a couple blank days in there as far as counting. I know in 17 and in the years previous to that, that the same thing happened. Talking about queuing. and boarding the boats. Again, we have had no complaints. I think the line was on the sidewalk maybe five times this year. And the whole process down there, the way Sauce Little Bike Return, parking staff, and the Golden Gate Ferry staff are working together. It's, you know, as soon as we see it happening, it's taken care of immediately. The communication is pretty fantastic. As far as Golden Gate Ferry and Blue and Gold, they bring in extra boats as needed. This year, June and July and August, they brought in 25 boats each month. So that's 25 extra boats that was normally scheduled. And here's their numbers, also down in July. down in August, which is fairly consistent with what we're seeing with the parking and the bikes coming into town. bike parking enforcement. We're still impounding bikes. We're still putting up signs when we see. In fact, I got an email tonight from one of our parking enforcement officers suggesting some more signage. So we're doing what we can to to inform people about the the parking the bicycle parking we're impounding bikes and again as you can see by the numbers we're being lenient on the release fee again we're not gonna you know fang a family of four for $100 to get their bikes out so The taxi ordinance was amended to Clarify the intent of the original language. I think it's helping a little bit. I mean, there's still, there's still, There's still room for improvement, let's say. So we're working with them, and I think as we move forward into this coming year, the rules are going to be laid out, and we're going to start hard with enforcement. And so hopefully that will help. And that's it. I did not, I actually text John and Lisa and told them that they could cancel since it was so late. and they were very grateful for that. They're not here to answer any questions, but hopefully I can answer anything that comes up. |
| 03:05:55.40 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:05:55.42 | Stacy | Thank you. |
| 03:05:55.43 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | questions. Any questions? |
| 03:05:57.82 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:05:57.83 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:05:57.86 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:05:57.90 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | and the |
| 03:05:57.95 | Jill Hoffman | of the state. |
| 03:05:58.02 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:05:58.03 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:05:58.05 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Stacy. |
| 03:05:58.47 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Yeah, I have one question. So, well, first of all, just a quick comment. I'm glad they're looking at bikes going back up the hill. I think that's also an important statistic. Do you guys keep track, I mean, you must, of accidents and other incidences? I mean, one of the issues that's not really captured by the information that you're keeping track of is kind of the congestion coming down Alexander and 2nd Street and just through there. And that I know is kind of a source of frustration. And then there's also a lot of anecdotal suggestion that there are a high number of accidents. I think I asked this question at an earlier hearing and that the answer was there aren't really a high number, but could you Either let me know or maybe our next update. |
| 03:06:55.22 | Stacy | Yeah, I think that's a good thing to put in our next update. The accidents, compared to the amount of bikes that come into town, our accidents are very minimal. A lot of them are just people that don't know how to ride a bike. But, you know, the accidents based on the bikes that come into town is not significant at all. |
| 03:07:18.38 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:07:18.39 | Joe Burns | questions of Stacy so who would have so when people get into an accident and there's an injury or you know whatever who keeps track of that is that the police is that Southern Marin Fire District Who keeps, I mean, is that? |
| 03:07:35.93 | Stacy | It's both. I mean, if there's an accident, then we take an accident report. If it's strictly a medical call, the Southern Marin Fire would have that. |
| 03:07:36.26 | Joe Burns | I said, buddy. Mm-hmm. |
| 03:07:44.43 | Joe Burns | Is there, so for our next update, can you just provide those numbers? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I'm happy to accept your, yeah, but from both agencies, from both the Southern Marin Fire District and also from SPD, just for this season. |
| 03:07:48.67 | Stacy | I mean, I'm happy to accept your |
| 03:07:56.48 | Stacy | Just for this. And normally when fire goes, we usually tag along. |
| 03:08:00.73 | Joe Burns | OK. Yeah, that'd be great. And so one issue that actually Adam and I talked about this afternoon, and I don't know Adam if you want to, you can say it more succinctly than I am. And we talked about it a little bit. at the july 31st meeting and that was my concern that no one There was no one responsible anymore for looking at the congestion in the downtown area due to whatever you want to call it during the summer. And who was strategizing that on ways to address it and maybe ways to reduce it and what we were gonna do. I don't know, Adam, do you have an update for that? I mean, it seemed like Bike and Ped was no longer going to do that. And you, I don't think we're ever thinking about strategy, but you were certainly on congestion management, so. |
| 03:08:49.85 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, thank you, Councilmember Hoffman. I thought our conversation this afternoon was very productive because that was, I think, an area where you and I were missing on when I would say the chief is in charge But I think what the opportunity that the Bike and Ped Committee has and the Council has in terms of leadership is not just looking at the day-to-day operations. I think the police department working with our partners, the Chamber of Commerce, the ferry companies, the bike companies, and obviously Sausalito Bike Return, they're dealing with the day-to-day activity. But what's our medium range strategy, and what's our long range strategy when it comes to buses, taxis, bikes, pedestrians? And I think that's an area where in our conversation today, we thought there's an opportunity in the near future to talk about Who plays that role? the staff at this moment, we don't have capacity at staff level, but the bike and ped committee The Ped and Bike Committee, I thought they had a very enlightening and powerful discussion at its last meeting, which I would encourage them to continue to go down that that road. But we're coming back in November, one of the next steps, and it's on your future agenda here, is we're coming back in November to give a wrap-up of the entire season with the evaluation of what went well, areas for improvement and then how are we going to move forward next year? And I, as Councilmember Hoffman and I discussed today, that's probably the opportunity to talk about, OK, who's providing the leadership, in the short range, which I think is the chief and our current partners, What's the mid range and then what's the long range and I don't think at this moment we have an answer. to who provides that leadership for the mid-range and long-range other than obviously the council setting the direction and the policy. I think there's a good discussion between now and November that the And by committee, and I'm looking at the chair, David Sudo, this might be something that they would like to talk about in their October meeting based on whatever direction or comments the council provides tonight. Thank you. Not very succinct. |
| 03:11:02.14 | Joe Burns | No, that's, yeah, and my concern is that- So you're going to ask a question, right? Because we'll comment in a minute. |
| 03:11:06.95 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Yeah. |
| 03:11:06.97 | Adam Politzer | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:11:07.00 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Yeah. |
| 03:11:11.84 | Joe Burns | I think I do have a question, but now you're interrupted. Sorry. I forgot what it was. |
| 03:11:14.41 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | We're up to meet you. |
| 03:11:17.41 | Joe Burns | Uh, okay. Thank you. If... I ask. |
| 03:11:21.04 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | for leeway. |
| 03:11:22.69 | Joe Burns | WE DO. |
| 03:11:23.03 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Let me open it to public comment and then I'll come back. Any public comment on this item? |
| 03:11:23.06 | Joe Burns | All right, let me open it. Thank you. |
| 03:11:25.68 | Bill Frost | Thank you. |
| 03:11:27.45 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:11:27.59 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. OK. |
| 03:11:32.87 | David | Thank you. |
| 03:11:32.92 | Bill Frost | Thank you. |
| 03:11:33.04 | David | . I actually signed up for it, so it's over there. Kelly Darling once again for the other agenda item on bikes I have two things I'd like to comment on this. One is the Alexander Avenue and the people riding their bikes down there. We need to work or use the council should look into working and making up a bike path that goes to Fort Baker and up past the sewer plant and making that the main route. I mean somehow there's got to be a way to work with the bike companies and the rentals and everybody else to divert those people down and around Fort Baker which is a much Nicer, smoother ride, much safer, much more suited for it. They don't have a lot of people going through their daily counts aren't nearly as high as they could be. I mean, it's set up to handle that many people riding through there with the facilities for restrooms and stopping and lunches and picnics and so forth. So working to get a bike pass somehow in the next year or two that the companies promote and say go this way instead of having all those people coming down Alexander Avenue, which is extraordinarily dangerous. You haven't been on a bike, you know, you're some kind of tourist, you haven't been on a bike, maybe, 20 years and you've got your whole family and you know, the little tandem mics. is very, The potential for danger and terrible, terrible circumstances are so great that I think it'd be worth your time as a council to look into promoting that and putting that somehow in place to solve a lot of the congestion problems we have. The second point that I wanted to make about the bikes is with all the money making and all the bikes and all the tourists, it's basically the locals have gotten forgotten. We are falling under the same... Bike laws that you're using downtown for the tourists to try to keep 60 bikes you saw on that one pole. From being attached to one pole, the laws, you can't attach your bike to anything but a bike rack, and only one bike per slot. Well, the problem is they've taken out all the bike racks from Dunphy Park all the way down to the other end of town. There are zero, there is one in front of the bay model. But other than that, there are no bike racks, period, you can't put your bike anywhere. The law states you can't attach it to a fence, a tree, a post, whether it's on your property or otherwise. So what's happening is a lot of people that live on boats or in apartments don't have any place to put their bike other than the tree in front of their house are getting their bikes locked in place. And I think that's a little unfair, and I think maybe the council should go back and look at that kind of thing and maybe make the bike laws at Dunphy Park that way, where you have actual bike racks. Something needs to be done about that because there's no place where me or my daughter to legally Put her bike. What am I supposed to do, put it in my rowboat and take them home every night? That's insane. But other than that, we don't have the access to put our bikes Anywhere, period. No place, nothing. And now we've had a lot of, the cops have come down locked a lot of bikes in place down among the marinas and in and around the places where all the bike racks have been taken out I WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT So- You know, what's that, $50 for me? You know, I have to get my bikes unlocked? That's crazy. I mean, there's something that needs to be done for our citizens because there's a lot of money being made on these bike tourists and all that. you So that's it. Thank you. |
| 03:14:41.40 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:14:41.45 | Stacy | THANK YOU. |
| 03:14:41.53 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:14:41.63 | Stacy | Thank you. I'm gonna step in real quick Thank you. Just educate everybody, the downtown bicycle parking zone, Kelly is. Just downtown. So you can lock your bike to... really anything you want as long as it's in an appropriate spot. from Ensign, all the way North. So Dumpy Park, the incident that we're talking about in Dumpy Park, a bike rack filled with probably 15 bikes that have been there for probably 15 years. And so we did mark them as we do cars for 72 hours and as we do boats to get the things moving along. So that's what the police have done in Dumpy Park recently. But the only impounding that we're doing of bikes are in the downtown designated zone for bike parking. |
| 03:15:35.21 | Unknown | Thank you, Stacey. |
| 03:15:39.31 | Unknown | Mary, go ahead and start. |
| 03:15:46.60 | Jeff Jacobs | Herb gave me some good advice, which is, Don't yell, it makes me seem weak. Before one can be fit for the practice of civil disobedience, one must have rendered |
| 03:15:58.72 | Paul Mowry | Thank you, Herbie. |
| 03:16:00.42 | Jeff Jacobs | a willing and respectful obedience to state laws. For the most part, we obey such laws out of fear of the penalty for their breach. And this holds good particularly in respect to such laws as do not involve a moral principle. For instance, an honest, respectable man will not suddenly take to stealing. Whether there is a law against stealing or not, But this very man will not feel any remorse for failure to observe the rule about carrying headlights on bicycles after dark. Indeed, it is doubtful whether he would even accept advice kindly about being more careful in this respect. But he would observe any obligatory rule of this kind if only to escape the inconvenience of facing a prosecution for a breach of the rule. Such compliance is not, however, the willingness, spontaneous obedience that is required of a satyagrahi. A satyagrahi obeys the laws of society intelligently and of his own free will. It is only when a person has thus obeyed the laws of society scrupulously that he is in a position to judge as to which particular rules are good and just and which are unjust and iniquitous. There is an issue with industrial tourism. We've gone up in international flights from 1970 until now, from 300 million to 4 billion. It is the least efficient, most carbon outputting form of transportation there is. to single out the bicycles as being the problem. the only time Maybe. that these tourists are not using fossil fuels. |
| 03:18:01.13 | Jeff Jacobs | Is this council |
| 03:18:07.12 | Jeff Jacobs | selling out to the oil companies. selling out to everybody. but the people who live here. especially the most vulnerable and the poor people who use bicycles. Bicycles. Do not pollute as much. They're more fun. |
| 03:18:29.27 | Jeff Jacobs | I have one. Now chained up. with an orange tag that says I must remove it. How can I do it when it's chained up? Really. Thank you. |
| 03:18:43.10 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | I with that I'm going to close public comment and bring it back up here for discussion. So we're just accepting the update. Are there any? I'll bring up something. |
| 03:18:52.07 | Ray Withey | Oh. Thank you. |
| 03:18:53.14 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Okay. |
| 03:18:53.17 | Ray Withey | Okay. Hey, Jeff. |
| 03:18:57.17 | Jeff Jacobs | I'm out of here. I have a bike, and I'm willing to Okay, shut up. |
| 03:19:00.33 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:19:00.38 | Ray Withey | Okay. |
| 03:19:01.39 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:19:02.98 | Jeff Jacobs | Okay? for us. Please stop. |
| 03:19:06.00 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Please start your comments. That's real. I was hoping you'd hear them. |
| 03:19:08.07 | Ray Withey | I was hoping you'd hear them. Tonight. I was gonna give you some facts, but you're gone. |
| 03:19:09.08 | Jeff Jacobs | Thank you. |
| 03:19:14.89 | Ray Withey | I feel like the whole room left. Is this thing on? You said you were going to speak. Yes, I am. I'm going now. I wanted to bring to attention, last meeting that we were up here in July, we approved the bike and ped plan and the check-in. And in that has some stats on accidents from 2006 to 2016. |
| 03:19:17.62 | Paul Mowry | Thank you. |
| 03:19:17.64 | Jeff Jacobs | You said you were going to speak. |
| 03:19:18.62 | Unknown | you |
| 03:19:18.67 | Paul Mowry | Yes. |
| 03:19:18.92 | Jeff Jacobs | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:19:18.97 | Paul Mowry | All right. |
| 03:19:19.17 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:19:19.33 | Paul Mowry | AND I THINK IT'S A |
| 03:19:36.37 | Ray Withey | And it's done in three zones. One of the zones is the south side of town that goes from Alexander, the city limit, down past the congested area to past Bay Street. The next zone is Caledonia Street from Taste of Rome and down to past Caledonia and then we have the north part of town. The exact same number of bike collisions happened in the one zone as it did the other two. The one zone that has, I don't know how many hundred percent more bikes in it. So from Alexander to through the downtown had 47 accidents in 10 years. The rest of the town had 47 accidents and one fatality that wasn't on the other side. So it... The numbers that we have, the closest thing we have to fact, say that it's not more dangerous In that area of coming down Alexander. And it's actually the opposite, maybe because of speed, maybe because of other situations. I think it's sun angle is one. It's not as dangerous based on the numbers. Now, we're going to hear more about the methodology, but I'm assuming that the methodology is exact same for both of those locations. So there is numbers here, and I think we've brought them up before. We talked about them in the bike and ped commission, that there is no factual numbers that we have at this point done by Parisi or anybody else or the police and fire that would say that it's more dangerous coming down Alexander. I just wanted to point that out. When was that previous? |
| 03:21:14.72 | Jill Hoffman | When was that crazy report done, Jim? |
| 03:21:16.66 | Ray Withey | These numbers are between 2006 and 2016. |
| 03:21:17.62 | Jill Hoffman | These numbers are |
| 03:21:24.02 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | I wanted to reiterate something I said at our last meeting where we had an update from the Bike and Ped Committee. And so the Bike and Ped Committee, One of its charter obligations is to address congestion. And although that was not on the list of three things or however many things that the Bike and Ped Committee is most closely focusing on. They're focusing on safe routes to schools and other things at the moment. I believe that's something that they, as Adam said, have a powerful opportunity to demonstrate leadership. And I'm trusting them to include in their ongoing efforts, recommendations for a medium and long range strategy when it comes to managing buses, taxis, bikes, pedestrians. And congestion management, so that's part of the charter and I do expect the bike and ped committee to carry out that obligation ongoing. LEAVE. |
| 03:22:38.03 | Joe Burns | So, okay, great. Yeah, I agree with that, but that didn't seem to me to be what David Sudo, the chair, said at the last meeting. And what I'm looking for and what I'm concerned about is very specific recommendations based on Because I don't believe, I believe there's still work to be done on how we're addressing and reducing congestion during our high tourist season. And the people that I've talked to in town don't believe that we've solved this problem. And I pose a question to the. the council the last time. the, Do you, anybody think we've solved this issue and we don't need to work on it anymore? So I can pose it again. Does anybody up here think that we've solved the congestion problem and that we don't need to work specifically on that anymore? |
| 03:23:23.03 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:23:25.19 | Joe Burns | Okay, so that was my concern and that was our conversation today with Adam. And I hope to address that specifically with whoever at the next meeting. And also, I think it dovetails with the conversation that we had when we were talking about our economic development plan and the definition of active tourist versus passive tourist. how we're targeting that going forward, because my sense is that a lot of the volume that's coming into town via the bikes and some of the tourist buses, those are the passive tourists. And so, but they're also adding the most congestion to our streets and creating the safety issues that we're all concerned about, I think. So anyway, that's my perspective and I look forward to Um, I look forward to the meeting, our report in November, and that we also have a reconciliation of the revenue generating aspect of Sussli bike return this year. Any other comments? |
| 03:24:30.30 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:24:30.67 | Joe Burns | Thank you. |
| 03:24:30.74 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | you |
| 03:24:30.91 | Joe Burns | Yeah. |
| 03:24:30.97 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Okay? Thank you. |
| 03:24:31.83 | Ray Withey | Thank you. Um, There's just an article that the Bay Area has the fifth worst congestion in the world. The fifth in the world. So that Sausalito has a congestion problem is no different than when we do have a congestion problem. We have a traffic problem. We've had a traffic problem hurt how many years? 50, 70? Used to be in cars, now it's bikes. Sonoma has a traffic problem, NAP has a traffic problem, Mill Valley has a terrible traffic problem. That's number one on the state's list other than homelessness is traffic problems. So we have a congestion issue. So no, we're not done and we're never done. One of the things that I think the bike and pet commission is looking at is Is a circulation path that improves congestion. It's hard to Get past that. It's failing when, we're going to be working on this forever. We have congestion issues the size of town. We continue to make paths by improving circulation and I think this PBAC has taken a broader look at overall circulation than any PBAC in the past. And our current Sausalito bike return has been more proactive with actual congestion management of certain areas related to bikes than anybody in the past. So I think we're on a right path. No, it's not done yet. And I don't think anybody would ever say transportation has been fixed in the Bay Area or Sausalito. But I think we're taking good paths, and we need to take more. I think the PBAC would love to take the long-term and the medium-term view of that because I think they kind of have been. And those things are mentioned in the bike plan as well. |
| 03:26:11.74 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:26:11.75 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:26:11.78 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Yeah. Yes, exactly. |
| 03:26:15.21 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:26:17.41 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Yeah. |
| 03:26:17.49 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:26:18.15 | Serge Avila | I'd just like to briefly remind people that we do have a general plan process ongoing. And one of the key elements of the general plan is the circulation element. head and bike commission that's working on this issue. And it's also supposedly supposed to be working at some point in the future with the general plan effort. We've got a general plan effort. You can't get much more long-term strategic than that. So quite frankly, I find it incredulous that we're not linking all of this together and recognizing that we've probably got more than enough long-range strategic discussions and thinking going on. The is, we're not connecting the dots, we're not moving fast enough in certain areas, such as the general plan, and we'll be talking about that next time, such that people don't know that we're doing this. They don't know that we've got all this effort ongoing, structured effort as well ongoing. So, I'm just quite frankly amazed that we seem to think there's nothing going on. |
| 03:27:37.73 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Well, and the other thing that's going on is we are actively working to develop the Vista Point Trail. As we're working on identifying funding to finish the remediation of the Um, of the pollution of that trail by the Golden Gate Bridge. And so that's something else. That's a long-term option that we're continuing to work on as an alternative. So we're doing lots. Herbie, did you want to make a comment? I know, I'm gonna reopen public comment for our former mayor, I am. |
| 03:28:15.43 | Unknown | you I don't know. |
| 03:28:17.22 | Herb Weiner | Thank you. |
| 03:28:17.28 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:28:17.32 | Herb Weiner | Herb Weiner. |
| 03:28:17.76 | Unknown | Herb Weiner. |
| 03:28:18.95 | Herb Weiner | 315 4th Street. Couple of things you should know. You are heading in the right direction because now like they were talking before how you get people out of cars now the direction of bikes is getting them off the bikes and turning them in when you take big cities who can take as many as probably return 100 110 and then you get uh blazing saddles who really isn't pushing to do that, but still can do maybe as many as 100. And then you have the return. from Scapazes. is on a real, on a Saturday, they can do almost 180, 200 bikes. Well, you add that up, there's 400, 400. That's three ferry trips that you don't have. And that is the answer in the future. is to get them out of the automobiles, is get them off the bikes and let them come back because nobody has ever been turned down as a pedestrian. passenger to get on a ferry. So it isn't inadequate ferries, it's just that you're concentrated with a lot of bikes. on that. The other point, and that's the future. is to keep on letting it, to increase that amount. As you heard, that's capacities, they have hit their limit to all the private bikes. companies that they have. Don't forget, though, Blazing Saddles and Bay Cities alone control 60, 65 percent. So there's your answer to how you handle the future of it. And when you look at accidents, The accidents are not happening within the city limits. They're happening above the city limits Like you mentioned that Alexander is, it is a dangerous road. The only problem that we have been very, very fortunate with is the people are going so slow on the bikes that when they do fall off, it's not major injuries. And that's why we're fortunate. And that goes for the automobiles for downtown. People are driving so slow that if there is an incident, It's not a major incident. So I think this council and the bike, Impaired committee as long as they keep on going in the direction of turning in the bikes it will work and be very successful |
| 03:30:54.05 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you, I cannot add anything to that. Does anyone else have anything else to say? All right, then we're going to move on to our next item. uh, Award the 2018 Street Resurfacing Project, Senior Civil Engineer Andy Davidson. Andy, thank you for putting up with us as we switched those items around. |
| 03:31:13.54 | Unknown | Do you want to do it in front of me? |
| 03:31:14.94 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Herbie, thank you for coming. |
| 03:31:18.42 | Jonathon Goldman | That's perfectly all right. I've been asked to reduce my 40-minute presentation to five, so I will attempt to do that. Yes. |
| 03:31:22.24 | Paul Mowry | Thank you. |
| 03:31:22.25 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Yes. Yes, perfect. It may take three minutes to get. I can't wait to see how you did that. |
| 03:31:25.24 | Jonathon Goldman | It may take three minutes to get. |
| 03:31:30.27 | Jonathon Goldman | do it all right here. So just while this is coming to life, I'll thank you for the opportunity to speak with you this evening and present our street project that we are asking you to award. |
| 03:31:55.48 | Jonathon Goldman | So we're going to be asking you to award a streets project this evening to resurface Caledonia Street between Napa and Johnson? And here we go. And Spencer Avenue between Prospect and the city's maintenance responsibility at Highway 101. So this is basically the resolution that we'll be asking you to approve this evening. |
| 03:32:22.09 | Unknown | Great. |
| 03:32:27.88 | Jonathon Goldman | Go ahead. Okay, I heard a wait and I got panicky. So just a brief description of what we're asking you to do, or what this project will be. On Caledonia, it's recently undergone a couple of significant underground utility projects. In 2013 and 2014, the city redid its underground streetlight circuit. Prior to that, the circuit had burned out and PG&E had locked it out and there was no lights on Caledonia. So we replaced the electrical circuit for the streetlights. Shortly thereafter, in 2016, 2017, PG&E came along and replaced gas main and gas services under a City of Sausalito encroachment permit. As part of that permit, we required that PG&E provide the city with an in-lieu fee to help us pay for resurfacing Caledonia eventually. And that's where we are. Spencer Avenue, you can see by these slides or if you happen to go up there that it is deteriorating between |
| 03:32:28.35 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:33:24.97 | Jonathon Goldman | Prospect and basically Highway 101. We've got a lot of cracking potholes are developing. This is one of only five roads in and out of town, so it's a very important road. And we plan to fix both these roads, Caledonia and Spencer, in a similar manner. Where it's rough or damaged in this case, we'll dig out the asphalt. The contractor will dig out the asphalt, recompact the base as necessary, install new hot asphalt. And then at the end or after that process has taken place, we'll micro surface or cover the entirety of the street on Caledonia. We'll go from Napa to Johnson. from lip of gutter to lip of gutter with microsurfacing and then reinstate the pavement markers. Similarly on Spencer, the digouts, the micro surfacing between Prospect and the city's maintenance responsibilities at 101. We'll get the micro surfacing and then we'll be adding back in a certain amount of the pavement markings. So I'm going to kind of skip through this. It's in your staff report. But I did want to touch on two segments of Bridgeway. The first segment is between Richardson and Princess. If you go out there this evening after this meeting, because it will be very quiet out there, and walk along on the easterly or water side sidewalk, you'll hear as cars pass this rattling sound. That is the pavement breaking up. There are a lot of individual cells that have developed along there. sidewalk, you'll hear as cars pass this rattling sound. That is the pavement breaking up. There are a lot of individual cells that have developed along there. And as the cars ride over them, move the asphalt around and they clink against each other. You understand the importance of bridgeway, so we're going to start looking at how best to repair this segment of bridgeway. You can see the discoloration there. That's the result of some... pumping taking place below the asphalt. The other part of Bridgeway that I do want to touch on is between Spring and Nevada. This could develop into quite a significant project. We're seeing what we believe is slope failure taking place on the water side, the easterly side. If you look at the left-hand picture, you'll see the black lines. Those are old, or those are crack-sealing efforts that were done last year when we really began to take interest in this. What's happening is that outer edge is slumping down and cracks are developing along there. So last year we did a crack surface, crack sealing project there to help keep water out of the slope to help prevent lubrication of the slope. You can see on the right a section of sidewalk where it's undulating and actually it's rotated back so that the back of sidewalk, the outboard side of sidewalk is actually lower than the curb. And that's just... demonstrating that that area is dropping. So what we plan on doing with that area is we're getting a consultant to develop conceptual plans and alternatives for repair. And then we plan on costing those out and getting an idea of what this may cost and then go seek grants or some method of funding. Because, again, it could be a really inexpensive project. THE END OF THE END OF THE I'm running out of time here. There's the SB1 streets. You have seen these. Bonita and B Street are also SB1 streets. So wrapping up my 40 minutes into three, this is the resolution we're asking you to approve this evening if you're interested. The main parts are asking or authorizing the city manager to issue a notice of award and execute a contract with Paving Construction Service for construction of the city of Sausalito's 2018 street resurfacing project. And similarly, authorizing the city manager to execute a standard form of professional service agreement with BKF engineers for construction management and inspection services. They have done that type of work for you for the last two or three years and have done, I think, a pretty good job at it. So there are my five minutes. |
| 03:37:35.41 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you for that presentation. You're welcome. |
| 03:37:36.93 | Jonathon Goldman | You're welcome. |
| 03:37:37.37 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:37:37.38 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | you Thank you. |
| 03:37:37.60 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:37:37.62 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Any questions? |
| 03:37:38.02 | Jill Hoffman | Questions of Andy. Yeah, I have one question. So you just listed the SB1 streets. Correct. So are those streets that we were able to fund with this year's SB1 funding? Or that we could lose funding for if Prop 6 passes? |
| 03:37:43.73 | Jonathon Goldman | THE FAMILY. |
| 03:37:48.76 | Jonathon Goldman | Not in time. Funding or that. |
| 03:37:53.75 | Jonathon Goldman | Well, I don't know about pros, pros, six. |
| 03:37:57.04 | Jill Hoffman | It repeals SB1. |
| 03:37:58.38 | Jonathon Goldman | Right, so the city has received some amount of funding from SB1 right now. and B are also SB1 streets, and we're looking to work on those next spring. Um... |
| 03:38:11.72 | Jill Hoffman | With funds received this year? |
| 03:38:12.79 | Jonathon Goldman | With city funds and SB1 funds. SB1 will not cover the reconstruction of these projects. It's just, I think on the order of $140,000, I think is what's projected for SB1 funds for the city of Sausalito. this is the first time. |
| 03:38:28.63 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:38:28.77 | Jonathon Goldman | YOU. |
| 03:38:29.04 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:38:29.12 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 03:38:29.32 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:38:29.39 | Jonathon Goldman | Thank you. |
| 03:38:30.62 | Jill Hoffman | So for this year or for next year? Upcoming year. OK, because there's just a chance that there won't be those funds. |
| 03:38:33.07 | Jonathon Goldman | Upcoming year. |
| 03:38:37.09 | Jonathon Goldman | There is. |
| 03:38:42.86 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Okay, other questions of staff? All right, I'll entertain a motion. |
| 03:38:49.71 | Jill Hoffman | So moved, do you want me to- |
| 03:38:50.89 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Is there anyone in the public who would like to comment? |
| 03:38:54.30 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:38:54.47 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:38:54.52 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:38:54.64 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | All right. OK, David. |
| 03:38:54.84 | Jill Hoffman | All right. TODAY. |
| 03:38:56.54 | Unknown | . |
| 03:38:56.58 | Jill Hoffman | David. |
| 03:38:57.08 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Amen. |
| 03:38:59.75 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Well, I'm glad I didn't forget the public comment. |
| 03:39:00.59 | Unknown | I didn't know. |
| 03:39:00.97 | David Sudo | I'll forget anytime. I just want to, you know, last I came from PBAC, and we mentioned the Bridgeway, Buffered Bikeway. And I think any time we look at Bridgeway especially and maybe any other streets, we need to look at our existing general plans and our upcoming general plans since we're new coming up to them and also other documents to make sure that we're covering items that are in there or suggestions. And also, obviously, there are, you know, since some of these streets have been reconstructed, there have been changes to recommendations from different entities about how to mark and configure streets to maximize safety, and also things like the complete streets. So we should be looking at those when we have the opportunities when we're creating a change to a street that maybe only happens every 10 or 20 or 30 years. So we should be taking full advantage of that opportunity to make sure we're doing everything for our community that we can. Thank you. |
| 03:40:08.60 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you, so I have our Director of Public Works and our City Engineer. Will you please take note of Mr. Sudo's comments? Thank you. |
| 03:40:17.88 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Yeah, I completely agree with those comments. So it'd be great. |
| 03:40:22.57 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | now I'll entertain a motion. |
| 03:40:24.46 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, so I'll make a motion awarding the 2018 street resurfacing project and making the Adopting the resolution and the five findings noted in our staff report. |
| 03:40:37.34 | Joe Burns | I'm just noting, I'm going to abstain, I see my street on this. |
| 03:40:41.64 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Yeah. |
| 03:40:41.71 | Joe Burns | Thank you. |
| 03:40:41.98 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | So I thought we had covered this before that there's Mary. Is there a need for a council member to abstain who lives near a street that is the subject of our |
| 03:40:54.28 | Mary Wagner | Generally you have the same effect as the public generally from the decisions, so you're not required to recuse yourself. |
| 03:40:57.37 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:40:57.42 | Joe Burns | Yeah. |
| 03:41:01.45 | Joe Burns | It's not near, it's my actual street. Okay, yeah. |
| 03:41:04.29 | Mary Wagner | I mean, you |
| 03:41:05.43 | Joe Burns | Thank you. Relying on that then, I'll enthusiastically Vote yes. |
| 03:41:12.03 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | So who will second Susan's motion? |
| 03:41:14.60 | Serge Avila | Second. Thank you. |
| 03:41:15.64 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | All in favor? Aye. That motion carries, 5-0. Moving on, thank you Andy and |
| 03:41:16.56 | Serge Avila | Aye. |
| 03:41:22.73 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Jonathan. Moving on. Consideration of amending staffing levels and salary ranges resolution to establish position of assistant city attorney slash administrative services director. |
| 03:41:34.00 | Jill Hoffman | Director. |
| 03:41:34.92 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:41:34.97 | Jill Hoffman | you |
| 03:41:35.15 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. be now. |
| 03:41:36.77 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:41:36.89 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | I said assistant city manager. |
| 03:41:37.13 | Jill Hoffman | I said, attorney. |
| 03:41:40.13 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Oh, sorry. I was reading. I think I'm- Surprise. It's been a long day, I'm exhausted, so sorry. It's to establish the position of Assistant City Manager slash Administrative Services Director. |
| 03:41:41.82 | Jill Hoffman | Sorry. . I was reading. Thank you. It's been a long day. |
| 03:41:57.51 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:41:57.56 | Adam Politzer | I'm not sure. |
| 03:41:57.65 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | We're going to hold you to the same standard as Andy Davidson. |
| 03:41:57.66 | Adam Politzer | We're going to hold it Yes, I think the staff report is pretty straightforward and provides a lot of information. Thanks, Brian Moore, for pulling this together. Obviously, this is in connection to making sure that we serve the city to the best ability that we can with the open recruitment of the administrative services director. We are recommending to the council to upgrade the position to assistant city manager Administrative Services Director you have a resolution in your packet increasing the salary range by two and a half percent or four thousand eight hundred and forty eight dollars per year And we also have a draft Recommendation in terms of the duties of the assistant City Manager Administrative Services Director. I'm happy to answer any specific questions of the Council, but we are recommending approval as we are actively in the recruitment process. And obviously we think that this title will only help the city move forward related to the general plan, related to discussions on working with the business community on economic development and obviously serving the department heads on our internal projects more. Thank you. effectively and obviously at the end of the day compete for a position that is incredibly difficult to recruit for in finance. Happy to answer any questions. |
| 03:43:32.60 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you, Adam, and I'm going to convey one question I've heard from some residents, which is you just made the point that they will compete for the position of city manager when and if you retire. And so I want to be clear that. Thank you. the designation of this position as assistant city manager it does not guarantee that this will be the successor to the city manager position |
| 03:43:57.61 | Adam Politzer | No, and that is of course the case. The council makes that determination regardless who sits in the city manager's office in that position. Worth noting that in the past, the Community Development Director when Reba Wright-Crossler was hired. was also the assistant city manager And when she retired, Joe Crimes, who was the police chief, was also the assistant city manager, and you know, The last person to hold the title was Lily Whalen, who's our Interim Community Development Director. |
| 03:44:32.51 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. Any other questions of staff? |
| 03:44:35.02 | Joe Burns | Yes, so my understanding is that this didn't go through the finance committee, is that right? |
| 03:44:41.03 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:44:41.05 | Adam Politzer | That's correct. |
| 03:44:41.42 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:44:41.89 | Joe Burns | So, and that the annual salary on this looks to me like it's $198,240 a year. So almost a $200,000 salary. |
| 03:44:54.43 | Adam Politzer | Yes, $4,848 more than the current salary. |
| 03:44:58.39 | Joe Burns | And we don't have any in our packet that I saw, any evaluation of what the full load on this, which is all of the healthcare benefits and potential pension. |
| 03:45:09.75 | Adam Politzer | Health care benefits wouldn't change, but the pension would go up 2.5%. |
| 03:45:15.37 | Joe Burns | Okay, so I have some comments. Those are comments, not questions. |
| 03:45:20.60 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. Thank you, any other questions? Any public comment? I'm going to close public comment, bringing up here for comment. |
| 03:45:28.35 | Joe Burns | Thank you. |
| 03:45:29.68 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Okay. |
| 03:45:30.03 | Joe Burns | I'll start, I'm going to be fast. So when I saw this, those are my initial thoughts was that a recommendation of this nature should have gone through the finance committee for fully vetting on how this would affect our budget and especially when we're heading into the MOU season. this next year. with regard to adding a new employee and adding a new category at a higher level. The other thing that struck me was that when you're looking in the market compensation study for this in the staff report, you're looking at the comparison was San Rafael, Millbray, Danville, and Those populations are, you know, San Rafael population is 60,000 people. Mill braid 23,000. Danville 44,000 people and Nevada's 56,000 people. So as part of the vetting process with regard to this issue and the finance committee would be. Does our small town of 7,000 people warrant I'm not sure. a salary position at $200,000. And I'm not sure that it does. And it also brings up Another issue as we head into the MOU season, When was the last time we looked at When was the last time we looked at the employees in Sausalito and did a real, listic alignment and Again, vetting of those employees and whether or not they're still matching up, as we're heading into another season in negotiation. When we say MOU, by the way, we're a negotiation with our unions, not just for the salaries of the union employees, but all of the employees as required under the SOSLIO ordinance. Those are my thoughts on this, thanks. |
| 03:47:21.39 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:47:22.25 | Joe Burns | Thanks. |
| 03:47:23.03 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Any other comments on this? Or I'll entertain a motion. |
| 03:47:32.38 | Serge Avila | I see a resolution in our package and presumably the motion is to adopt that resolution. |
| 03:47:41.66 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:47:43.19 | Serge Avila | So I'm making that motion. |
| 03:47:45.46 | Unknown | Great. Is there a second? Second. Second. Serge, will you please call the roll? |
| 03:47:53.88 | City Clerk | Councilmember Withey? Yes. Councilmember Cleveland Knowles? |
| 03:47:55.09 | Serge Avila | Yes. |
| 03:47:55.34 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:47:55.40 | Serge Avila | you |
| 03:47:55.45 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:47:58.40 | City Clerk | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 03:47:58.53 | Joe Burns | Yeah. |
| 03:47:58.77 | City Clerk | Councilmember Huffman. Thank you. |
| 03:48:00.86 | Joe Burns | No. |
| 03:48:01.15 | City Clerk | Thank you. Vice Mayor Burns. |
| 03:48:03.33 | Ray Withey | Yes. |
| 03:48:03.60 | City Clerk | Mayor Cox |
| 03:48:05.32 | Joe Burns | Yes. |
| 03:48:05.76 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:48:10.45 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Okay, next on our agenda is public comment on items 7B through 7F. City manager reports, council member reports, city council appointments, and other council business. Any public comment? Seeing none. I'll bring it back up here for the city manager report. Adam, we're only 20 minutes behind at this point. |
| 03:48:30.23 | Adam Politzer | I have no specific items for the council, but happy to answer any questions. |
| 03:48:34.23 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | I think you did want to give us an update about what's happening this Thursday. Um... |
| 03:48:41.85 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, I was going to leave that for you and Joe, but I'm happy to share again that the mayor and I have been working on an inclusion leadership forum that we are hosting Thursday night with the vice mayor and 13 or 12 other members of our community here, consisting of the president and vice president of the Sussauds School Board, the chair of the community service district in Marin City, and one of the other members of the community service district in Marin City, |
| 03:48:41.92 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | or evening. |
| 03:49:23.89 | Adam Politzer | the county sheriff, Sheriff Doyle, County Supervisor Sears, and then two residents at large, one from Marin City and one from the community of Sausalito. We're talking about social justice, discrimination, and how we can build bridges between our communities in working together, not just on these issues, but other issues at large. Oh, the other two that I forgot to mention was the CEO of the Chamber of Commerce and Jeff Shirash was not available as the president, so Yoshitome is going to be representing the Chamber with Julie. But an opportunity to rebuild the relationships between all of those entities. There will be some that are directly related to how we work. our friends in Marin City the school district in the chamber and then also opportunities for the others to re-establish these relationships scheduled for two hours and it's the beginning of the process there will be many other tracks that come from from this that will be public opportunities both with training Forums. Uh, programs and hopefully some policy statements that come from it that can be Discussed here in our chambers at the county and hopefully serve as a model for other cities to follow as we move forward on inclusion |
| 03:50:47.79 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. Councilmember reports. |
| 03:50:54.69 | Jill Hoffman | I'll be quick, but I had two committee meetings. One of the sustainability commission met and continues to want to prioritize focusing on general plan issues and making sure that the climate action plan and other sustainability issues are incorporated. Thank you. and embedded into the general plan update. And then another idea that came up that the legislative committee may be hearing about soon is a possible proposal that the commission will be discussing in the next couple of months about a possible ban on single-use plastics. So just a heads up that that might be coming forward. And then last night I was at the MCCMC Disaster Preparedness Committee, and we had an interesting conversation about volunteers, both affiliated and unaffiliated volunteers in a disaster and how those can be coordinated. So I'll be meeting with Mike McKinley to talk more about that. We had a great presentation from the Tiburon Emergency Disaster Preparedness person. So that continues to go well, and hopefully some good ideas will come from that. Thank you. |
| 03:52:15.84 | Unknown | Other committee reports? |
| 03:52:17.94 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:52:17.95 | Joe Burns | Were you going to talk about legislative... |
| 03:52:19.94 | Jill Hoffman | you |
| 03:52:19.96 | Joe Burns | you Okay. |
| 03:52:20.89 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:52:20.92 | Unknown | what you do. Thank you. Sure, go ahead. |
| 03:52:25.09 | Ray Withey | I'll go through really quick. I won't do PBAC. I think we talked about that enough tonight. MTA, the Marin Telecommunications Agency, has been discussing at our meetings and now kind of offline through information coming from Gene Bonander to both us as a committee as well as city managers on all this telecommunications small cell or small towel, small cell tower stuff that's coming down the pike. It's basically shifted from the state and SB 649 to the feds and a Senate bill 3157 and FCC ruling. So all the communities are on point now on alert. We kind of have been looking through our ordinance, at least I had, and I think Mary has as well. And we have it coming up on an agenda item, but we're all going through that process. in a haste mill valley just did theirs san selmo's done it and ross has done ordinance updates hlb met last week and mostly talked more about the kind of exposure that they're going out into the community with both with events like the gingerbread um kind of discussions they're a little late so they need to be six months out so instead talking gingerbread now, they should be talking gingerbread in March and looking at ways to talk to the tourist who's in the summer to come back to a gingerbread or a Christmas event in the winter, not talking to them in the winter because they're already here. So it's kind of spreading out the communication process to tourists so that we can get more bang for the buck on these events that are Geared towards more hospitality The biggest thing they have going on right now, which is a wonderful website if you haven't seen it destination Sausalito Dot-com it really speaks to events Team building activities that can take place in Sausalito Kim Huff has done a wonderful job her team in putting this website together. Please check it out CDBG which is a community development block grant commission for the county of Marin is open up applications. I believe October 1st maybe October 15th for the next cycle of block grants. These primarily go to housing opportunities or communities in risk following the HUD guidelines of protected classes. The committee most recently met to talk about which of the protected classes we're going to give emphasis in funding. But often we have approximately about 40% of funds coming to us that we, based on the program. So we do have to cut a lot of people out. But that's a process that's starting, so if anybody's watching, whether it be a homeless issue, a senior issue, or protected class issue, the community development block grants application time frame is opening. |
| 03:55:11.51 | Unknown | Right? Yeah. |
| 03:55:13.42 | Serge Avila | I will, the only thing I have to add is that the business advisory committee has decided that they're going to form two subcommittees among themselves, focusing solely on the general plan. And so they have decided that they want to give the overall business economic input into the general plan a boost during the vision phase. And I think that's fairly welcome. |
| 03:55:44.98 | Unknown | you |
| 03:55:46.61 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Okay, four of the five of us attended the League of California Cities Conference, which was well presented and lots of interesting seminars and It's really a great, one of the most useful aspects of that was a dinner that we had one evening where we sat down with other local leaders of neighboring cities and talked about ways that we can collaborate with them find solutions to issues that are confronting all of us. So that was a great event. Last week I attended a White House conference for female mayors. We had 90 mayors from 37 states represented. including the longest serving Republican mayor, in the country. We listened to talks from everybody from Vice President Pence, to Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos, the Secretary of the SBA, Um, uh, The panels including HUD and the Department of Commerce. I spoke to Jerome Smith, Special Assistant for Legislative Affairs, to President Trump about the opportunity zones that are being created around the country and Not every city, such as Marin City, that is deserving of the availability of that funding was included in the first year of the year. that it needs to be redone and he said they are gonna redo it and cast that net again. The purpose of that conference was to make local agencies more aware of federal government resources. So there's a website called performance.gov that's focused on delivering communications to communities such as ours. I encourage all of you to check it out. It was a great conference and I appreciated the effort. The last speaker was Kellyanne Conway. who I must say was far more... poised and amenable in that setting and is actually hugely committed to battling the opioid crisis that our country is facing and that I have personal experience with a family member so that was poignant for me The legislative committee, so the MCC legislative committee met Monday morning and Everyone is focused on the FCC. telecommunications issue. And so appropriately, the legislative committee of Sausalito met, of the council met on Monday afternoon and we did commence consideration of measures related to wireless telecommunications facilities. City attorneys putting something together to bring back to us. We also discussed an update on marijuana regulations that will come back to us. And we also are considering amendments to the Sausalito Municipal Code concerning accessory dwelling unit regulations to bring them into compliance with current state regulations. Because state regulations require larger units with more bedrooms than what our current ADU policy requires. And in order to ensure we still have a an adequate stock of very low and low income housing, I'm recommending in a future agenda item that we also consider a junior ADU policy, part and parcel with amending our ADU policy. Okay, that's my Report? Oh, and the fourth thing we considered, we looked at the short term rental pilot program that was presented to this council last year. A similar program will be presented for consideration to this council on both October 9 and October 30. But the legislative committee is recommending that this council consider some of the lessons or measures adopted by other municipalities, including recently the county of Marin in evaluating its pilot program. Okay, if there are no further reports, we'll move on to appointments to boards, commissions, and committees. We are asked tonight to accept the resignation of Rebecca Woodbury and appoint an appropriate member to replace her. um, I guess as mayor I get to nominate and we had several qualified candidates and I appreciate them making themselves available, but I'm going to nominate someone who's already been attending has attended the last four meetings of the Sustainability Commission, and that is Greg Thompson. |
| 04:00:54.31 | Ray Withey | Second. |
| 04:00:56.64 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Are there any other nominations? Right. |
| 04:00:59.66 | Ray Withey | Right. |
| 04:00:59.93 | Unknown | . |
| 04:00:59.97 | Ray Withey | Thank you. |
| 04:01:00.47 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | All in favor of accepting the resignation of Rebecca Woodbury and appointing Greg Thompson. Aye. |
| 04:01:07.14 | Unknown | Aye. |
| 04:01:08.30 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Motion carries, 5-0. For future agenda items, there's one other agenda item I'd like to include or add to the future agenda items list, which is in our housing element we promised to consider inclusionary fees. I'd like to have that moved to the legislative committee to start putting together a draft policy. Thank you. |
| 04:01:30.83 | Jill Hoffman | Great. I think that's wonderful. |
| 04:01:32.42 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Yeah. |
| 04:01:33.11 | Ray Withey | not all impact fees altogether. |
| 04:01:35.23 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | So that's separate from impact fees. This is a separate, this is part of the housing element. So, but that's something we can certainly consider adding as well. But inclusionary fees for the moment. as we're doing some other housing stuff. Okay, if there are no other reports of significance, we will stand adjourned at. |
| 04:01:53.32 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 04:01:53.39 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. |
| 04:01:53.42 | Jill Hoffman | ahead sorry just for future agenda items yeah did did we pass a resolution about proposition six |
| 04:01:55.72 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 04:02:00.92 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 04:02:00.99 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 04:02:01.15 | Jill Hoffman | as the city council what did we pass a resolution about proposition six as a city council I don't think so. Anyway, I would just propose that maybe for staff to take a look at. It's the repeal of SB1 and it would have a large impact on local jurisdictions, the county and others. just to communicate to our local community that that's important. And then I have heard quite a lot, and we had a member of the public show up about speeding. And we had some more correspondence this week on Caledonia. So I was just wondering at some point if we might have Jonathan Goldman talk about if they've had any further conversations on that issue or if there's, just get an update. |
| 04:02:56.30 | Adam Politzer | Mayor Cox, if I can just quick response on that. Lieutenant Frost received that information and they will be- |
| 04:03:05.51 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Excuse me, members of the audience, we're still having our meeting. Thank you. |
| 04:03:08.98 | Adam Politzer | They'll be providing some additional enforcement on Caledonia Street and the other areas that were noted, and then we'll see if that helps change behavior. Public works and police work cooperatively on these efforts, but police is usually in the lead, so we can ask Lieutenant Frost to come back with a report. But they'll take immediate action to start doing some additional traffic patrol. and enforcement on Count on the Street specifically. |
| 04:03:39.13 | Jill Hoffman | Great, so we can refer members of the public to Lieutenant Press. Great, thank you. Thank you. |
| 04:03:45.22 | Susan Cleveland-Knowles | Okay, with that, I'm going to adjourn this evening's meeting in honor of my dear friend Linda Bonet, who passed away on Saturday evening. For those of you who didn't know Linda, she and her husband, Wayne, um, own and operate Windgate Press, which I believe started up back in 1975 and which published Sausalito's own tome moments in time. Wayne served on the city council from 1974 to 78 and Linda was very active throughout the community, speaking passionately about preservation of trees and challenging the environmental impact of waterfront projects. And both of them were huge fundraisers for our new police and fire building downtown. And so, They were, Linda was a friend of mine personally, came to help me set up my chili cook off booth and really a force of nature and so she will be missed. And so we will adjourn this evening's meeting in her honor. Thank you. |
| 04:04:57.97 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. Thank you. |
Jeff Jacobs — Neutral: Spoke about Sukkot holiday traditions, building a sukkah, and navigating conflicts between religious practices and city/state/federal regulations. ▶ 📄
Doug Storms — In Favor: Recommended improved community outreach with Richardson Bay mariners: city attendance at RBRA meetings, informal coffee meetings for dialogue, and developing a winter emergency response plan for maritime crises. ▶ 📄