City Council Meeting - April 30, 2019

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CALL TO ORDER IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, 420 LITHO STREET - 7:00 PM 📄
Mayor Burns called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM with a welcome and roll call 📄. Councilmember Ray Withey was absent due to illness. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Brianna 📄. There were no closed session announcements or public comments on closed session items. Councilmember Joan Cox recommended adding public comment to special presentations explicitly on the agenda 📄. Vice Mayor Susan Cleveland-Knowles clarified that Item 7D would be split into two parts (7D1 Martin Luther King and 7D2 Southview and Dunphy) due to Councilmember Cox's conflict of interest, as she lives in the vicinity and will recuse herself 📄.
Motion
Motion to approve the agenda as amended, moved by Councilmember Cox and seconded 📄. Vote: 4-0 in favor 📄.
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SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS / MAYOR’S ANNOUNCEMENTS 📄
The Mayor introduced the item for special presentations, specifically noting the presence of individuals related to the municipal water district. There was a brief procedural discussion about the order of presentations, with Susan Cleveland-Knowles suggesting placing new workers ahead, but it was clarified they were in the municipal water district section. The Mayor indicated they would start with items 1B through 1C and called up Susan Patterson. 📄
1.B
Introduction of Louis Raffa, Sewer Maintenance Worker I (Susan Paterson, Human Resources Manager) 📄
Susan Patterson, HR Manager, introduces new employee Louis Raffa, hired on April 8th as a Sewer Maintenance Worker I. She highlights his background in underground construction, sewer, water, and gas lines, previous private sector work in trenchless sewer repair, and past roles as a landscaper and in retail. She notes he is an East Bay native, a loving father and husband, and excited to work for Sausalito 📄. Mayor Burns welcomes him 📄, 📄.
1.C
Introduction of Guillermo Mejia, Maintenance Worker II (Susan Paterson, Human Resources Manager) 📄
Human Resources Manager Susan Patterson introduced Guillermo Mejia, hired on April 1st as a Maintenance Worker II. She highlighted his over 18 years of extensive public works experience from the Town of Corte Madera, covering areas like sanitary sewer, flood control, building and park maintenance, street sweeping, graffiti removal, and more 📄. He is retired from Corte Madera and joined the city. Additional qualifications include CPR, AED, and first aid training, over 30 hours of safety and health training, graduation from the Albert Einstein College in San Salvador and the Abrook American Air Force Academy in Panama, and 14 years of military experience as a sergeant major in San Salvador 📄. He is noted for taking pride in providing high-level customer service. Mayor Burns welcomed Guillermo 📄. After the introduction, Susan Patterson immediately moved on to introduce another employee, Amina Beporia, for the finance department, starting March 21st as a senior accountant, detailing her accounting experience and educational background 📄.
1.D
Introduction of Amena Baporia, Senior Accountant (Susan Paterson, Human Resources Manager) 📄
The item involved the introduction of Amena Baporia as a Senior Accountant by Susan Paterson, the Human Resources Manager. Mayor Burns humorously asked Amena if she had found any extra money 📄, to which Susan Patterson responded that she was looking 📄. The introduction was brief and concluded with thanks.
1.E
Swearing in of Briana Dolcini (Chief Of Police John Rohrbacher) 📄
Chief John Rohrbacher introduced Briana Dolcini, noting she was hired in July of the previous year but the formal swearing-in was delayed due to scheduling. He highlighted her background: growing up in a Sonoma County ranching family, earning degrees in early childhood education and psychology from Santa Rosa Junior College and Sonoma State University. 📄 He shared that her experience as a teacher prepared her for handling potentially unpleasant interactions, like writing parking tickets. 📄 The oath was administered, and her fiancé, David, pinned her badge. 📄 Briana expressed her love for Sausalito, thanked the city and department for the opportunity, and acknowledged her family, friends, and fiancé for their support. 📄 Mayor Burns extended congratulations to Briana and other new employees. 📄
1.A
Marin Municipal Water District New Rate and Fee Proposal 📄
Charlie Duggan, MMWD Treasurer, presented a proposed rate increase consisting of a 4% annual operating revenue increase over four years and a new capital maintenance fee to fund infrastructure replacement, moving away from borrowing. The fee is based on meter size, with a standard 5/8" meter costing about $163.50/year, potentially phased in over five years to reduce initial impact. The proposal aims to address aging pipes (some over 100 years old), pump stations, seismic retrofitting, and adds $1M/year for wildfire prevention. Duggan compared MMWD rates to other Bay Area agencies, noting MMWD is currently among the lowest. Council questions included: Cox on pipe-lining technology vs. replacement 📄, the disparity in fee amounts for larger meters 📄, using impact fees instead 📄, the lack of a long-term (75-100 year) infrastructure plan 📄, and meeting transparency 📄; Cleveland-Knowles on phasing and placing the fee on property tax vs. water bill 📄, 📄; Burns on whether the fee would stabilize rates during droughts 📄; and Cleveland-Knowles on county-wide coordination of tax measures 📄.
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COMMUNICATIONS - 7:30 PM 📄
Public comment period for items not on the agenda. Mayor Burns explained the rules 📄. Ben Farrell, representing South Salud Cruising Club, thanked the city for improved communication on the Dunphy Park project and shared historical photos to illustrate the club's vision for the waterfront 📄. Jeff Jacob spoke about pursuing legal action (pro se) after unsuccessful negotiations regarding Schoonmaker's Point Marina dock access issues, citing a personal promise to his mother 📄. No council discussion occurred.
Public Comment 2 1 In Favor 1 Neutral
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ACTION MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING 📄
The item was addressed with a second to the motion 📄, followed by a vote. Mayor Burns called for all in favor, and the minutes were approved with a vote of four to zero 📄.
Motion
Motion to approve the minutes of the previous meeting, passed four to zero 📄.
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COUNCILMEMBER COMMITTEE REPORTS 📄
Councilmembers reported on committee meetings attended. Jill Hoffman noted attendance at the Marin County Councilmembers and Mayors (MCCMC) meeting with a presentation on smokeless tobacco targeting school-age children 📄. Susan Cleveland-Knowles reported on the MCCMC Homeless Committee meeting, highlighting the mobile shower program expansion, the Opening Doors Marin initiative on chronic homelessness, and Marin Housing Authority updates on Section 8 and public housing projects 📄. She also mentioned outreach efforts with Mayor Burns to families with young children in Sausalito, including meetings with parent groups and plans for a future listening session 📄. Joan Cox attended a General Plan Advisory Committee meeting, ABAG/MTC Housing Legislation Committee meetings, and discussed the merger of SB50 and SB4, detailing exemptions for historic districts and coastal zones, and changes to bus stop criteria 📄. Mayor Burns reported on representing MCCMC at the North Bay League of Cities Legislative Day in Sacramento, covering SB4, SB50, SB5, and meetings with Senators regarding ADU funding 📄.
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CONSENT CALENDAR 📄
The consent calendar was moved for adoption by Councilmember Joan Cox at 📄, with a second. Mayor Burns called for a vote, and it passed unanimously with a vote of four to zero 📄. No discussion or presentation of individual items occurred.
Motion
Motion to adopt the consent calendar passed unanimously (four to zero) at 📄.
6.A
Introduction of a Sidewalk Ordinance 1st Reading (Mary Wagner, City Attorney) 📄
City Attorney Mary Wagner presented a sidewalk vending ordinance to comply with state law SB 946 (Safe Sidewalk Vending Act), which prohibits cities from banning push-cart and stationary sidewalk vendors but allows reasonable time, place, and manner regulations. Key provisions include: a permit requirement; restrictions on sidewalk obstructions (must maintain 48-inch clearance); stationary vending only on sidewalks at least 10 feet wide (rare in Sausalito); hours of operation (8 AM to 7 PM/sunset in residential zones, 7 AM to 10 PM in commercial zones); prohibitions in residential and mixed-use zones, within 200 feet of farmers markets or special events, and in a defined downtown area due to congestion and safety concerns 📄; and penalty structures with fines and permit revocation for repeat violations. Council discussion included: Councilmember Cleveland-Knowles inquired about existing interest (staff noted a couple of inquiries, e.g., hot dog and ice cream vendors) 📄 and confirmed the downtown prohibition includes Gabrielson Park 📄. Mayor Burns asked about the definition of vending (selling goods, not services like bike tours) 📄 and permit display. Councilmember Cox, as part of the legislative committee, emphasized the ordinance addresses downtown congestion while complying with state law 📄. Councilmember Cleveland-Knowles suggested treating it as a pilot, with staff tracking permit inquiries and reporting back after summer 📄.
Motion
Motion by Councilmember Cox to introduce, read by title only, and adopt the ordinance amending Title 13 of the Sausalito Municipal Code to add Chapter 13.33 (Sidewalk Vendors) and amend Section 13.20.010, and simultaneously direct the Community Development Department to gather information on sidewalk vending permit inquiries and report back at the end of summer on interest and vending types 📄. Motion passed unanimously.
Public Comment 3 3 Against
7.A
General Plan Update – Request for Work Plan Modifications, Increased Budget Amendments and Update on Work since January 2019 📄
Community Development Director Lilly Whalen introduced the item, noting the contract with M Group began in 2017, and the project is currently in the visioning phase. M Group's Heather Hines presented a revised work plan and requested a budget amendment of $90,593. Key modifications to Task 13 include: facilitating meetings between the General Plan Advisory Committee (GPAC) and city boards/commissions; adding a dedicated Marinship workshop, subsequent GPAC meeting, and council study session; and incorporating an economic analysis of the Marinship. Hines explained the need for additional project management hours due to the extended timeline and emphasized efforts to maintain an October 2020 completion date by working on the policy framework concurrently with stakeholder outreach. 📄. Council discussion revealed concerns about the number of GPAC meetings (28 held vs. 18 initially planned), unclear policy direction from GPAC, and the scope and value of the proposed Marinship economic analysis. Councilmember Cleveland-Knowles expressed that the analysis should be forward-looking, evaluating economic impacts of different land-use scenarios (e.g., status quo, moderate change) rather than a static survey of existing conditions. Mayor Burns questioned whether the data would provide a clear nexus for future decisions. Councilmember Cox highlighted timing pressures and the GPAC's desire for more data to make informed policy recommendations. The council directed M Group to revise the economic analysis scope to focus on evaluating multiple future scenarios for the Marinship and to return for approval on May 14th. It was also agreed that future GPAC updates to the council would be business items, not consent items, to allow for council confirmation of policy direction. 📄.
Motion
Motion to adopt the resolution approving the revised work plan and budget amendment for the General Plan Update, with the direction for M Group to return on May 14, 2019, for final council approval of a revised scope for the expanded economic analysis specific to the Marinship, focusing on evaluating multiple future land-use scenarios. Motion passed 4-0. 📄.
Public Comment 3 2 In Favor 1 Neutral
7.B
Introduction of Sewer Fee Rate Study (Vivian Housen, P.E. Principal | V. W. Housen & Associates) 📄
Vivian Housen and consultant Kim Baylor presented the sewer rate study. The city's sewer system is aging (most pipes 80+ years old) and requires capital investment. The study considered infrastructure replacement rates: a 3% annual pipe replacement would require ~12% annual rate increases, while a 2% replacement aligns with a 4% annual increase. 📄 Councilmember Susan Cleveland-Knowles questioned the dramatic cost difference between 3% and 2% replacement. 📄 Vivian explained the capital cost proportion drives the difference. 📄 Kim detailed the financial plan, showing operating costs (~$2M/year), debt service, and capital needs. 📄 There was discussion about a net increase of ~400 EDUs (Equivalent Dwelling Units) since 2014, attributed to reclassification and ADU amnesty. 📄 Council noted significant bill increases for single-family homes versus minimal increases for attached units due to water usage differences. 📄 A typo in rate increase numbers was identified and corrected. 📄 The timeline under Prop 218 involves a 45-day comment period leading to a June 18 hearing. Councilmembers favored the 4% increase scenario (2% replacement) as prudent and flexible, allowing for downward adjustment based on public comment.
Motion
Councilmember Joan Cox moved to accept the NBS report and adopt a resolution of intention to establish sanitary sewer fees for FY 2019-20 through 2023-24 and set a public hearing for June 18, 2019. 📄 Motion passed 4-0. 📄
7.C
Mid-Year Review and Adoption of Resolution to Adjust the FY 2018-19 Budget 📄
Yulia Carter presented the mid-year budget review, explaining it as a standard process to assess year-to-date revenues/expenditures and make adjustments reflecting economic conditions. She outlined a three-step methodology: 1) Correct discrepancies between the council's approved budget direction and the actual resolution (Attachment 2), 2) Incorporate previously approved budget amendments (Attachment 3), and 3) Identify new material revenue/expenditure changes based on projections (Attachment 5). Key points included an $8M increase in appropriations largely due to interfund transfers and corrections, such as a $775,000 pension contribution that was missed in the resolution but counted multiple times in adjustments 📄. General fund revenues are up 2%, with a structural surplus projected, leaving a $3M unassigned fund balance 📄. Councilmembers expressed confusion and lack of confidence due to the complexity, late receipt of materials (Saturday before meeting), and discrepancies in the prior year's budget resolution. Jill Hoffman strongly opposed approval, citing insufficient time to verify the $9M in changes and questioning the validity of the original budget vote 📄. Susan Cleveland-Knowles and Joan Cox also favored postponement for further review, though Cox indicated trust in the staff's work 📄. Mayor Burns noted the need to catch up on budget timelines but acknowledged concerns.
Public Comment 1 1 Against
7.D
Update on Martin Luther King Jr. Park, Dunphy Park and Southview Park 📄
Andrew Davidson and Mike Langford presented updates on MLK Park, Dunphy Park, and Southview Park. For MLK Park, the field project started in November 2023, halted for winter rains, and resumed in April 2024, with completion anticipated by mid-June. Change orders total approximately $39,000. The tennis court project started in March 2024, with unforeseen subbase issues leading to an additional $30,000 in costs, with reopening expected by end of June. A proposal to reconfigure basketball courts to include pickleball courts was presented at an estimated cost of $80,000. 📄 Mike Langford discussed a landscaping plan for MLK Park, developed in partnership with Sausalito Beautiful, which includes 100 trees and 32 bushes at an estimated cost of $50,000, with planting planned for fall 2024. 📄 Council discussion included questions about funding for landscaping and pickleball, with City Manager Adam Politzer noting potential funding sources including Measure O funds and unspent MLK roof funds. 📄 For Dunphy Park, Loren Umbertis presented a budget augmentation request of $161,388 to cover additional design, construction administration, and change orders due to unforeseen conditions like trash material and groundwater issues. The project is now anticipated to be substantially complete by July 4, 2024. 📄 A separate proposal for $85,000 in bocce court lighting was discussed but not included in the motion. Southview Park is scheduled to begin construction in June 2024, with a 90-day timeline.
Motion
Motion by Councilmember Cleveland-Knowles to amend the budget by an additional $29,565 for construction at the MLK complex and provide direction to city staff to advertise the MLK Pickleball project for construction and return to the city council with identified funding sources to award a construction contract for the MLK Pickleball project. Seconded by Councilmember Hoffman. Passed 3-0 with one recusal. 📄 Motion by Councilmember Cox to adopt a resolution authorizing the city manager to execute an agreement with RomTech for the construction of the restroom and trash enclosure for the bid amount of $270,036 and appropriate additional funds in the amount of $161,388 to cover the cost of necessary additional design and construction administration services and change orders due to unforeseen conditions. Seconded. Passed 4-0. 📄
Public Comment 6 5 In Favor 1 Neutral
8B
City Manager Information for Council 📄
City Manager Adam Politzer indicated he had nothing to add at that late hour but was available to answer council questions 📄. Mayor Burns then transitioned to discussing H.C. appointments to boards, noting they heard from two P-back interviewees that night, with one spot open and one person unable to attend, allowing for a future interview 📄.
8C
Appointments to Boards, Commissions and Committees 📄
The council discussed appointments to fill vacancies on boards and commissions. Mayor Burns clarified that due to Russ Irwin's resignation, Bjorn Gripenberg (liaison from MCBC) would move from alternate to full member, leaving an alternate position vacant 📄. There was confusion about staff recommendations regarding this move 📄. The council interviewed candidates including Randy Brown, Jordan Hosmer, and Regan Fulton. One applicant (Doretta) was unavailable for interview and lived outside city limits 📄. Councilmembers debated whether to appoint an alternate immediately or wait for future interviews 📄.
Motion
Motion to appoint Regan Fulton as a full member to the PBAC (Planning Board Advisory Committee). Motion by Mayor Burns, seconded by Joan Cox 📄. Vote: All in favor 📄.
8D
Future Agenda Items - 10:45 PM 📄
Mayor Burns opened the item to solicit future agenda items from councilmembers 📄. Joan Cox noted that the renewal of the emergency declaration would be heard on the 14th, not the 28th 📄. The Mayor acknowledged this, and with no other items, moved to adjourn 📄.

Meeting Transcript

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00:03:49.72 Mayor Burns Is there a room on you?
00:03:59.77 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
00:04:26.54 Mayor Burns Well, welcome everybody. Thanks for being here tonight. I love seeing a full room. It's so fun. We come out and everybody's here and it's like, yes, we're doing the community's work. I'm going to open with calling for a roll call.
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00:04:53.40 Mayor Burns We're now due to the Pledge of Allegiance. Everybody stand. I'm going to ask Brianna to lead us in our pledge today.
00:05:01.93 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
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00:05:07.97 Keith Kennedy Thank you.
00:05:08.03 Joan Cox Thank you.
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under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
00:05:15.41 Mayor Burns Thank you. That won't be the first time we hear from you tonight.

We did have a closed session. We have no closed session announcements. Are there any public comment on closed session items?

Seeing none.

I'm going to ask for an approval of agenda or any modifications.
00:05:31.29 Joan Cox I would like to recommend that we I will formally add public comment to our special presentations.

explicitly on our agenda, although I think we often do take it.
00:05:42.88 Mayor Burns Thank you. At the end? After the public? After. Thank you.
00:05:46.90 Susan Cleveland-Knowles And then did we also just want to clarify that for item 7D, due to a conflict of interest, we'll take the two parts. Well, we'll take Martin Luther King separately so that Council Member Cox can
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00:06:00.18 Joan Cox Thank you.
00:06:03.05 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Engage in the discussion on Dunphy park and Southview park
00:06:05.85 Joan Cox So we'll do 7D1 Martin Luther King and 7D2 Southview and Dunphy.

Sure.
00:06:12.83 Mayor Burns As Councilmember Cox lives in that vicinity, so we recuse her on that item. Also, getting back to the roll call, Councilmember Ray Withey is ill tonight. And if you know Ray, he's very ill to not be at a council meeting, so speedy return to him.
00:06:29.88 Joan Cox So I will move approval of the agenda as amended.

Second.
00:06:33.54 Mayor Burns All in favor? Aye. That's 4-0.
00:06:34.25 Joan Cox Bye.
00:06:37.08 Mayor Burns Special presentations.

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And there goes Lily and there goes Ben.
00:06:55.58 Mayor Burns It's time for the municipal water, but you're not Emma.

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00:07:05.80 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Where am I?
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00:07:08.32 Susan Cleveland-Knowles I know we just approved the agenda, but should we put our new workers ahead of the- Yeah, you're right. We're in municipal water district since we're going to have some questions for them. We're in municipal water district.
00:07:13.97 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
00:07:13.99 Mayor Burns Yeah, you're right. We're in the municipal water district, since we're going to have some.
00:07:19.83 Mayor Burns Great, let's bring up Susan Patterson.

We're going to start with 1B through 1C.

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00:07:28.72 Susan Patterson Good evening, Mr. Mayor and council members. Susan Patterson, I'm the HR manager with the city of Sausalito. And this is one of my favorite parts of my job, is I get to introduce our new employees. So first, I'd like to start with Louis, Louis, Rafa.
00:07:38.25 Louis Rafa Thank you.
00:07:48.83 Susan Patterson Hi. So, Louie was hired on April 8th. He's our new sewer maintenance worker.

His work experience comes from underground construction working on sewer, water, and gas lines. Before working for the city of Sausalito, he worked in the private sector as a laborer for the trenchless sewer repair company. His past work experience includes working as a landscaper and in retail for a hat store.

He's an East Bay native and he's a loving father and husband. He is excited to have the opportunity to work with the city of Sausalito. Please welcome Louis.
00:08:29.81 Mayor Burns Welcome, Lewis.
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00:08:44.84 Mayor Burns Welcome, Lewis. Have a great career here.

And Susan.
00:08:49.99 Susan Patterson Thank you.

Next.

Next, I'd like to call up Guillermo Meja.
00:08:56.67 Mayor Burns Thank you.
00:08:56.77 Susan Patterson Which one's Guillermo?
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00:08:56.98 Adrian Brinton It's beautiful.
00:08:57.48 Mary Wagner I'm not.
00:08:57.79 Mayor Burns Sure.
00:08:57.82 Mary Wagner Sure.
00:09:00.74 Susan Patterson So Guillermo was hired on April 1st, and it's no joke. He's our maintenance worker too, and Guillermo brings to the city over 18 years of extensive knowledge in sanitary, public work operations, and maintenance in public facilities. He has experience in sanitary sewer, flood control, building maintenance, park maintenance, center medians, street sweeping, street painting, graffiti removal, and public works operation. We are very fortunate to have him. He worked for the town of Corte Madera for over 18 years, retired and came back to join with us. He's CPR, AED, and first aid trained. He's in safety and health with over 30 hours of a training course. Most importantly, he graduated from the Albert Einstein College in San Salvador. He graduated from the Abrook American Air Force Academy in Panama. And he has over 14 years of military experience as a sergeant major in San Salvador. He takes pride in providing a high level of customer service by efficiently dealing with the public, vendors, contractors, and city staff. Welcome, Guillermo.
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00:10:35.49 Mayor Burns Welcome Guillermo.

You're on a roll, Susan. Let's do another one.
00:10:40.72 Susan Patterson Okay, let's do one more, thank you.

Amina?
00:10:53.78 Susan Patterson I'd like to introduce Amina Beporia. Very important, starting in the finance department.

Amina joined as a senior accountant on March 21st.

AMENA brings a broad range of accounting experience that includes preparation of monthly, quarterly financial statements, managing bank reconciliations, general ledger, ERP implementation, year end closure, and annual audits.

Amina joined the city after serving Sunlink Corporation for almost nine years. She started there as a staff accountant and was later promoted to accounting manager and assistant controller. She graduated from the University of California in Berkeley with a BA degree in political economics and completed more than 24 units in accounting. Amina, we're thrilled to have you and welcome.
00:11:46.55 Adrian Brinton Yay.
00:11:59.87 Mayor Burns I always ask Amina when I see her, so have you found any extra money yet?
00:12:03.65 Susan Patterson She's looking.
00:12:04.69 Mayor Burns Bye.

Yeah.
00:12:05.12 Susan Patterson Thank you very much.
00:12:07.76 Mayor Burns Thank you, Susan.

Next up, we have the Chief of Police, John Rohrabacher.
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00:12:20.07 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
00:12:20.17 Unknown you So it's a pleasure to introduce Brianna Doscini tonight.

Usually I would say that we're introducing a new employee, but our story is different tonight. We hired Brianna in July of last year We just haven't been able to put it all together to get her here tonight And it's not because of anything she did it was because of our own scheduling so Definitely a familiar face, but yet I didn't want her to be denied this moment And so tonight she's gotten joined by her family and friends for her swearing in and for her badge pinning I, And another little note about the swearing in is just in case anybody out there is thinking, oh, well, she wasn't sworn until tonight, so all those tickets she wrote.

don't count. I got news for you. We swear people in on their first day of work when they're in new employee orientation. Tonight is all for fun. So all those tickets count. Nobody gets a free ride.

So it's a pleasure to be able to introduce Brianna tonight.

Her background is one that's so well suited to working for us. She grew up as part of a ranching family in Sonoma County, so she's certainly used to working hard. And she went to school. She earned two degrees at Sonoma. I mean, first at Santa Rosa Junior College and then a degree at Sonoma State University, where she majored in early childhood education and a minor in psychology.

And so when I interviewed her, I asked her, I said, you know, what do you think about coming to work for us and writing parking tickets and dealing with people who might be a little bit unpleasant because it's not always a lot of fun for writing people a parking ticket. And she said, well, I worked in a classroom as a teacher with a lot of little kids and the helicopter parents that came with it. She said, so I think I got this. And so, boy, nothing could be closer to the truth. It's just been wonderful. So it's like she's almost off probation, and here we are doing introductions. I wouldn't want to miss it and it's a great opportunity for you to meet her formally and for the public to see her if they're watching and for her family and friends to enjoy this moment with us and the rest of the people here from the police department. So Serge if you would be so kind as to administer the oath.
00:14:12.07 Adrian Brinton That's great.
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00:14:40.84 Mary Wagner Thank you.
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00:15:54.31 Unknown So one of the fun things about being Chief of Police is that we get to give the new employees their badge. But the next best thing about that is letting someone else do it. And so I like to ask the new employees who they'd like to have up in the badge. And so this is one of those times where the secret's not a secret anymore about your fiance, right? So. David's here tonight to do the honors. Whoops. Because if it was a secret, it's not now.
00:16:16.20 Louis Rafa And so, David's here tonight to do
00:16:19.03 Adrian Brinton the honors.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.
00:16:57.68 Brianna Doscini I just wanted to say that I absolutely love Sausalito and I've been working here for a bit. So I really got to know the community and the people that work here.

And it's been such a pleasure.

I also want to thank the city and the department for this great opportunity. It's definitely a future project.

for me and I could see myself growing and developing even more from where I am today. Um, I also wanted to thank my family and my friends and my fiance for all their support, um, for everything. So thank you everyone.
00:17:54.21 Mayor Burns Thank you.
00:17:54.28 Unknown All right, we're excused.
00:17:55.04 Mayor Burns Thank you all. If you are getting ready to head out, I just want to make one more final thank you to the four new employees, Luis, Guillermo, Amina, and Brianna. Welcome, congratulations, and to your family. Great day.
00:18:13.90 Mayor Burns And then we'll set up the water district presentation as you exit.

I know, there we go.

Any public comment on future agenda items before you go? Guess not.
00:18:34.52 Mayor Burns Are you set? Is he ready to go on his presentation?
00:19:04.33 David Sudo Keep it moving.
00:19:37.74 Mayor Burns Are we good to go?
00:19:41.77 Mayor Burns Oh yes, yes, I got it, thank you.

And there's Ben right there.

that's for this item Oh, OK. Got it. Now I see that.

Thank you.
00:19:53.80 Charlie Duggan Thank you.
00:19:53.82 Unknown I'm sorry.
00:19:53.84 Charlie Duggan Welcome.
00:19:54.06 Mayor Burns Thank you.

You may begin.
00:19:56.37 Charlie Duggan Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of the council. Thank you for having me tonight. My name is Charlie Duggan. I'm the MMWD treasurer, and I've got a few slides to go over this evening. I'll go through them kind of quick. Please stop me if you have any questions, but I'm sure you have some questions, and so I won't take too long.

So one of the reasons we're here tonight is we are proposing a rate increase. And it's based on, we have pipes that are over 100 years old, we have pump stations that are old. We have seismic retrofitting projects that we're doing for our plants. And we want to make sure that we are prepared for the future to serve this community. The rate increase has pretty much two components to it. One is an operating increase that brings in a 4% revenue over the next four years each year, and then a newly proposed capital maintenance fee. In our recent past, we've been borrowing money to fund all of our capital programs. Obviously, that's unsustainable, so we're looking at moving towards having a fee that pays for the replacements of pipes and the things I mentioned a moment ago.

One thing to note is that 14 in the last 25 years, the district did not raise rates at all. And so if you look at this chart, the green bars represent the years where there was no rate increase. The first line, the gray one going up to $4.46 is if we had started in 1990 just matching our tier one rate to what CPI was. That's where we would end up actually higher than we're proposing right now. And if you look at the curve that's really going up, that's the two-year survey that the American Water Works Association does nationwide every year, getting the average rate increases for the country. And you can see that what we're facing is a lot of infrastructure changes and costs throughout the nation and we're not immune to it. And rates have gone up significantly higher in many places throughout the country.

This graph shows you where we are now with the far left blue line. With the cost we have and even rate increases that we've done in the near past, we're still at the far left of all of these agencies in the Bay Area. With the proposed rate increase, we would move to where the blue line is now. Again, we're looking at 4% increases after this year, and a lot of these agencies are doing 6% to 7% increases every year. So we fully expect for our blue line to migrate to the left as the other agencies leapfrog past us.
00:22:49.37 Mayor Burns You wanted questions as we go, because that one kind of pointed out, obviously some of the agencies on the right, their water travels a long distance. So how much of their cost is infrastructure cost that we wouldn't otherwise have given our proximity to the water shed?
00:23:02.57 Charlie Duggan We've got a slide that compares a few of them, and I don't really have a specific answer for that. One of the things we do capture our water and have to treat our water, so there is a cost to us for the treatment plants, the chemicals, the electricity and everything, and then transmission to the community that some of the other agencies might not have if they're buying wholesale water from another area. And so that is a key difference between us producing 79% of our water here locally.
00:23:05.32 Mayor Burns Mm-hmm.
00:23:43.66 Charlie Duggan The capital maintenance fee that I mentioned earlier is based on the meter size that someone has. And it would be $163.50 a year. However, our district board is considering right now putting that on the bi-monthly bill. And also, they're considering phasing this in. The latest proposal is a five-year phase in so that $163 a year would go down for the majority of our customers to about five dollars and I think it's 45 cents every bi-monthly bill and so that's a it's a significant decrease if we were to phase it in over the five years What's included in this? Well, we have roughly $20 million a year we're spending on our capital projects. 16 and a half of that would be raised by this fee. Four and a half million dollars is paid by the fire flow fee that we use to upsize the pipes throughout our district to provide better fire flow for all of the firefighting departments. One million is being added to our wildfire prevention efforts. Now this is above what we're spending now. We spend about $8 million a year in the watershed. We're looking at taking a million dollars on top of that and dedicating it directly to wildfire prevention. We're not sure where that's going to go just yet. We have formed a task force our new general manager has has created a task force of our employees solely focused on wildfire prevention and so we'll be and we work very closely with the local chiefs and wildfire fire safe Marin So this is the slide I was talking about where when you compare us to other districts like Santa Rosa, they produce 10% of their local supply. They have 53,000 accounts. Their annual CIP budget is $13 million and they have 600 miles of pipe. We have 900 miles of pipe. We have 128 tanks, 97 pump stations. We were looking the other day at East Bay Mud. They have over 600,000 accounts, and we have the same number of tanks as East Bay Mud. Part of the reason is because of the topography here. We've got tanks all over the place. We've got pump stations that'll get the water up to those tanks. It's a very complicated system for the number of counts we have and for the amount of area that we serve. If you look at someone like Santa Cruz, they produce 100% of their water. They are actually spending $32 million a year for 25,000 accounts, where we're at 60,000 accounts and spending 20.

Here's an example of the complexity of our system. You're not expected to be able to read anything on this slide, but it's just our gratuitous, hey, we have a tough job. And keeping track of all this, this is just a small portion of the network that we serve.

So the impact to the average customer, the 5 eighths inch meter makes up about 74% of our single family residents and I think it's 69% of all of our accounts. And so as you can see here down at the bottom, the monthly cost would be about $2.71 for the normal usage and fixed charges that come on the bi-monthly bill. And then the capital maintenance fee would equate to $13.36, 63 cents every month. That's if it's not phased in. Again, if it's phased in, that $13 goes down to less than $6.

So for the city of Sausalito, we went and looked and see what this capital maintenance fee impact would be for you. The total is a little over $16,000, and these are the number of meters that we have in each of those sizes. Times that amount, all totaled, gets us to, that would be how much the new fee would be for your city.

And with that, I know I went kind of quick, but I want to be respectful of your time.
00:28:08.17 Mayor Burns Do we have any questions for Charlie at this point up here before we open public on the show?
00:28:13.18 Joan Cox Yes. In terms of repairing your pipes, are you considering the new technology for pipe lining as opposed to pipe replacement? That technology is being used at the White House and other places in the country. It's far cheaper than having to remove and replace pipes.
00:28:31.53 Charlie Duggan It really depends on the material that the pipe is made up of. We have a lot of cast iron that was installed in the 50s and 60s. And what's happening is we have some pipes, we're replacing a pipe in a city that's over 112 years old. The pipes that went into the 50s and 60s, that was the state of the art back then, they're starting to fail. And when they fail, they fail spectacularly. So it's not just small holes that are happening, it's large chunks of it are getting blown out. Those aren't good candidates for pipelining. And in fact, in my experience, sewer lines are much better for the lining technology because they're not under pressure. The water lines are typically having to be replaced and we're replacing it with, I think it's welded steel now. Excuse me, I'm not an engineer. And the PVC piping that we use, we're expecting to last 100 years right now is the estimate.
00:29:39.67 Joan Cox Your presentation made reference to $163 a year in the first year, but I read the newspaper that the capital maintenance fee would cost some customers $409 per year. The latter amount is a significant increase for some of our elderly residents on a fixed income, so can you explain that disparity?
00:30:06.14 Charlie Duggan Well, it's based on the capacity or the demand that that size meter can put on the system. Of course, we're constrained by Proposition 218 and we have to match our costs to the service we provide. And so one of the industry standards is to base things on the meter size. A one inch meter can have two and a half times the water flow through it than a five-eighths inch meter.

THE The theory behind it all is that that one inch meter could place a much higher demand, so we have to size our treatment plants and our water mains going to that one inch meter and all the other one inch meters to be larger because of that potential demand. However, I will say that if the one inch meter is required for sprinkler systems or an unusual pressure system, our board is considering a process where we can give people some consideration, such as charging them the next lower meter charged down. If it's because if their house would normally use a three quarters inch meter, but they have a sprinkler system and they go to one inch, we're looking at a way to try to charge them the three quarters inch fee.
00:31:21.56 Joan Cox So I'm legal counsel for a water agency in Olivehurst, and Yeah.

seek compensation for the size of the meter through their mechanism of impact fees, and then they charge based on usage. So why is that approach not adequate for MMWD?
00:31:45.39 Charlie Duggan My understanding of impact fees is when new property is being developed and they're charged in impact fees.
00:31:50.08 Joan Cox Thank you.

Based on the size of the pipe.
00:31:53.44 Charlie Duggan Yes, yes, and those fees are in place for us. These are the bi-monthly fees that are charged, and so we try to strike a balance between fixed charges and the variable charges, the tiered rates. Over 80% of our expenses are fixed. Regardless of how much water we sell, we incur those costs. And one of the things we try to do is not get too heavy on either side. One of the things that could happen is during a severe drought, when you're requiring people to cut back on their water usage, if we are too heavy on the variable side and that drips down, we have to raise rates while we're telling people that they can't use the water at the same time. And so, again, our rates are based on industry standards, and industry standards have a mixture of fixed rates and your variable rates. In fact, I think every one of the utilities that we showed you up there, I know we looked at 12 in the local Bay Area, every one of them has a fixed charge on their regular monthly bill, bi-monthly bill.
00:33:08.63 Joan Cox You mentioned that you're seeking these rate increases and this capital investment because you don't want to continue to borrow money.

Do you have a 75 or 100 year plan in place?

And if so, how long has it been in place?
00:33:28.63 Charlie Duggan Uh, I'm not familiar with the 75 or 100 year plan.
00:33:31.57 Joan Cox for how you're going to maintain your infrastructure over the next 50 to 75 to 100 years? Do you have a long range plan in place to budget and infrastructure maintenance.
00:33:46.28 Charlie Duggan The only one I'm familiar with is our 20 year capital improvement plan.
00:33:51.43 Joan Cox It's ironic because we're looking at increasing our sewer fees tonight, but we're only increasing The rates...

the rates will then in turn pay for the loans or the loan service on capital improvements. But we have a 75 year plan in place so that it's predictable for us. How much we're going to have to pay to ensure that our lines are maintained over the long term.

So that's the reason for my question. And then the final thing is I read that...

there's a taxpayer organization that is videotaping your meetings because you don't videotape your meetings. Is there a reason for that?
00:34:35.08 Charlie Duggan I don't know the answer to as the reason why they haven't been videotaped in the past. I'm sorry, I can't answer that.
00:34:44.95 Joan Cox Is it true that a lot of your board members call in for your meetings instead of attending them in person?
00:34:49.73 Charlie Duggan I would not say a lot. Some of them do from time to time. But I would say that our board members are all active in the water community, and so they bring a lot to the table as far as their water knowledge. And so I, as a staff member, haven't noticed any problems with any of them calling in at any time.
00:35:13.05 Joan Cox Thank you.
00:35:15.50 Charlie Duggan Thank you.
00:35:15.67 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Yeah, a number of questions were already asked by Councilmember Cox. But one of the things that was reported in the IJ, I think, yesterday was that your board was considering a different approach or a phased in approach or kind of shifting some from the capital back to bonds, could you talk about kind of where that discussion is? And also if you could talk about, well, why don't you answer that and then I'll ask for second.
00:35:42.87 Charlie Duggan Okay, yes, so I've been there two years.

And the plan had been the rate increase two years ago. There was a 7% increase plan and another 7% increase. And the plan was to continue borrowing every two years for our capital program. And so as we were looking at that, funding 100% of your capital program every two years by debt is really unsustainable. That's, so we projected out over ten years what that would look like. That's when the board started looking at instituting this fee in lieu of bonding, going to more cash funding to where we get to a point where we could strike more of a balance between the debt we already had and cash balance. What the board is looking at now is a phased-in approach with the capital maintenance fee. And by doing that, we would take on some additional debt. If we did the five-year plan as proposed, it would cost us about $28 million over the next two or three years in additional debt. I'm not sure exactly where the what the board's going to decide on this it's something that I think they're very interested in and they will make their decision on May 28th
00:37:04.31 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay.

I mean, maybe just stepping back, I am very grateful for the service Marin Municipal Water District provides and the water. And I think we all recognize we are looking at our sewer fees today. We all recognize that you need to invest in the future of our infrastructure. So these questions are not.

coming from a place of not agreeing with that. I just think from a kind of resident perspective, it does seem like there's been rate increases. Even your chart shows since 2007 practically every year and they're very high.
00:37:27.39 Louis Rafa Oh, no.

Yeah.
00:37:41.70 Susan Cleveland-Knowles So I guess the second question is, it looks like this new capital fee is going to be going on property tax bill as just opposed to our regular water bill.
00:37:52.76 Adrian Brinton I know some of you.
00:37:52.99 Susan Cleveland-Knowles And there's been a lot of controversy about that given that other taxes are put on the property bill like school taxes and you know, kind of how transparent and visible that is to people and how it makes them feel about the rates that they're being charged. So could you just talk about why that is and whether there's any consideration of managing it on the water bill.
00:38:15.77 Charlie Duggan There is consideration of that. I think when it was first proposed to go on the property tax bill, there were several factors that went into it. This is a infrastructure related fee, similar to the fire flow fee, not exactly the same, but similar. So they were thinking that this is going solely to infrastructure. Also that it is a, these projects are long lived,
00:38:20.48 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
00:38:48.29 Charlie Duggan should help with sustaining property values because a bad water system would affect property values and that the cost of it would be more appropriately borne by the property owner than, say, if there were renters that were paying the water bill. And so that was one of the considerations or some of the considerations our board was looking at. I will tell you there are proposals right now that the board is entertaining to put it on the two year bill. I mean on the bi-monthly bill for a period of maybe two years and then possibly transition to the property tax. I think the board is sensitive to the fact that we want to be transparent and that their intent was to never be not transparent and by putting it on the property tax bill. They are aware that there are many other fees that go on the property tax bill, such as sewer charges and fire flow and things like that. So they didn't think that they were not being transparent since the people are aware that these other fees are on the property tax. But in an abundance of caution, they are considering putting on the bi-monthly bill for at least a period of time.
00:40:05.17 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay, thank you.

And I would just like to echo, so the idea of mitigation fee I think is a good one for some purposes. I mean, you can only charge for the cost of new development and the impact of the system, so it won't replace your long term capital improvement.

for everything, but if you combine that, have the ability to take existing customers and existing developed properties and Thank you.

some So I agree that that's kind of standard.

standard practice that might be worth considering as augmenting and perhaps reducing this kind of fee on existing customers.
00:40:43.53 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
00:40:43.60 Mayor Burns you Jill, any questions?

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

When you've been here, I think in the past, and I know in the public you get a lot of, the MMW got some kickback when rates went up, when there was heavy use, and then when there was less use, rates went up. So it was like, hey, I cut back, why is rates going up? Is this new capital maintenance fee, would that stop that type of situation, or at least curtail it a little bit at your next budget process?
00:41:15.66 Charlie Duggan Well, the hope is that we institute this fee and then we get into a regular pattern of small increases on a regular basis instead of doing severe increases every once in a while. And so I think that's one of the things that, you know, kind of we've already tried this and we're finding out that the cost didn't go away. So to your point about we used to sell 33,000 acre-feet a year, which is a lot of water. We now sell about 23,000 acre-feet. So a third of the income we used to receive and a third of the water we used to sell isn't coming in. However, our fixed costs are still there. We still have the plant. We may be treating some less water, but we still have electricity costs that have gone up, our chemical costs have gone up. Our costs are actually rising at faster than 4% a year, but we're trying to do what we can. We have reduced staff from 266 employees back in 2010 down to 240 now. And so we're trying to gain efficiencies everywhere we can. But unfortunately, we do have these fixed costs. The 900 miles of pipe don't go away when people stop using the amount of water they used to use. They still need water going through those pipes. And so, unfortunately, we still have to have those fixed costs or those fixed fees
00:42:41.23 Susan Patterson Thank you.
00:42:41.27 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
00:42:41.32 Mayor Burns Thank you.
00:42:41.40 Adrian Brinton to the
00:42:41.49 Mayor Burns So,
00:42:46.97 Adrian Brinton So can I ask one?
00:42:48.20 Susan Cleveland-Knowles So I actually have one more question, I think it might be for our city manager more than you.

It's just occurred to me in the last reading your report and some of these newspaper articles. So I work in my day job for the city and county of San Francisco, which of course is a city and a county.

All the agencies are able to have a discussion kind of about what is going on the ballot and what increases and bond measures and sort of all in the trade offs and the impact of people's property taxes and fees and other rates together. But does that happen in Marin? I mean, it does seem like we've got all these different agencies and ourselves, we're kind of operating independently. And I was wondering, is there kind of a coordination effort on what goes on?

property tax bill and who's increasing fees and kind of how that impacts everyone more broadly
00:43:45.36 Adam Politzer Not as well as we would like, but I think over the last five or six years, the county has taken a more active role.

I'm trying to help.
00:43:55.60 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
00:43:55.65 Louis Rafa Thank you.
00:43:57.26 Adam Politzer bring everyone together in terms of the various competing tax measures, so if it's If it's a child good education, I mean there's a bunch of different measures that have been talked about county wide. But as indicated tonight and as we experienced in the past, there's so many special districts, special interest groups that all have the ability to put taxes forward.
00:44:22.16 Louis Rafa Thank you.
00:44:24.22 Adam Politzer And in some cases, when we know it's a competing measure, it just makes it more and more difficult to work together. Mirror was our emergency radio system. It was a collective effort that all of the cities came together working with the county to bring that tax measure forward rather than people competing as an example. But I know that the water district worked closely with the county, with their public works department, so that should be getting to the board of supervisors. But we can share that with the county administrator, again, as a renewed effort to coordinate.
00:45:04.11 Mayor Burns Thank you.
00:45:04.62 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay, great, thank you.
00:45:06.36 Mayor Burns Is there any public comment on this item? Would anybody like to speak to this item? This item only seeing no public comment. I will close public comment and not bring it up here for discussion. We've had that.

So we have no access.
00:45:17.85 Joan Cox Thank you.
00:45:18.10 Mayor Burns Oh, do you want to make some more comments? Go ahead.
00:45:20.26 Joan Cox Sure, we had questions. So I also am grateful for the fact that MMWD does provide our residents with clean,
00:45:21.58 Mayor Burns Yeah.

Thank you.
00:45:28.60 Joan Cox high quality water in a reliable system. That being said, I do think we need better education of our rate payers, including better outreach, I think that this process could be made more transparent through better outreach and through videotaping meetings so that they're available for rate payers to watch.

I don't think borrowing money on its own, is a reason to is a reason for this approach. I think you can borrow money and service the debt through your regular rates, if you properly plan for a long range plan. So I think that segregating the charges makes it less transparent, more difficult for rate payers to fully understand the precise rate they're paying and to compare what they're paying to what other ratepayers in neighboring neighborhoods pay I'm aware that not that long ago our rate payers paid for watershed management. Now they're paying for infrastructure. And so without a 50 to 75 year in plan, it makes us question, what is the next big expense that is not currently being planned for that's on our horizon? And so I would encourage you to.

put into place a long range plan to address all deferred maintenance issues so that we can confidently move forward understanding how the system will be managed.

Thank you.
00:47:04.91 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thanks for coming.
00:47:07.28 Mayor Burns Thank you, Charlie. Thanks. Have a good evening. Appreciate it.
00:47:08.38 Charlie Duggan that was a good one.

Thank you.
00:47:11.79 Mayor Burns All right, that brings us to public communications. Public communications is the time for the city council to hear from citizens regarding items that are not on the agenda, except in very limited situations. State law precludes council from taking action or engaging in discussions concerning items of business that are not on the agenda. If you would, please fill out, I have one for Ben. You have three minutes. So if there's anybody else who would like to make public comment that's not on the agenda.

I'm going to call up then you have 3. Thanks.
00:47:52.11 Ben Farrell Good evening everybody, Mayor, Councilmembers, I'm Ben Farrell. Tonight I'm here in my capacity as rear commodore for the South Salud Cruising Club.

And a couple of months ago, John Donovan, David Hanson, and myself got up here and I think we effectively asked for more communication through the Dumpy Park project, seeing as how we are the sole tenants down at the park site right now.

And I'm here to just sort of give feedback on that and say thank you effectively. The feedback and the cooperation and the communication that we've gotten from the city through our process with that project has been great. I've been sitting in with the Dumpy Park team to sort of monitor the day to day on the project and keep track of it and how it affects us and then also work with the team to make sure that we're continuing to not be a burden on the project.

I think I've talked to a lot of people in this room individually. I've talked to a lot of staff who are not in the room anymore. It's all been great. They've all been very helpful. Adam today even gave me a little bit of a history lesson on the relationship between the cruising club and the city over the past couple of decades, years, as far as memory in this room goes back at least. Very interesting, reset my perspective at least. And last week I think John Scopazzi from Cascadely Marina got up here and gave their game plan and also indicated that we have been talking with them to try to form a partnership. We see the relationship between the co-tenants there on the park as, probably late in coming to the game here at that point, but nevertheless, we have a shared vision and We are congruent in our vision for the park. They have a very daytime recreation oriented vision, and we will continue to be sort of an evening oriented vision. Nevertheless, we're both going to be there all day long. I have a couple of pictures that I showed John when we met with, our board met with their board last week, and he was very excited by some of these. So I thought I would share them with you and just sort of,
00:49:49.28 Louis Rafa Thank you.
00:50:03.83 Ben Farrell use them to where it is we think we're going. So these are circa late 80s, early 90s, I'm not really sure. But they give a pretty good overview of what it was out there on the waterfront and a really good overview of where it is that we think we're going with all this. This is my favorite picture because it shows a nice green verdant park in the foreground.

But that's pretty much it. You know, water access for the community facilitated by Cass Marina if you are interested in boats and getting out on the water and the cruising club because we don't, I mean, we have water access but we don't do it very well.

And then lastly, I just wanted to say that Also in talking with Adam today, I think that there's a lot of opportunity for the club to be a better asset to the city of Sausalito at the park. We have infrastructure, we're there, we provide services. We are a private club. We've typically only been open as a private club, but with the park coming on board and its new update, we think we can work with you guys better.
00:51:06.34 Adrian Brinton Yeah.
00:51:08.39 Mayor Burns Great.

Any questions for Ben?
00:51:11.01 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thanks for coming.
00:51:12.66 Mayor Burns Really appreciate it, Ben. Thank you. Thanks for that update.

Glad you're working on it.

you Is there any other public comment? Any other public comment at all on the public comment scene?

Yes.
00:51:22.81 Jeff Jacob Yes.
00:51:24.05 Mayor Burns One.
00:51:28.16 Mayor Burns of course.
00:51:34.84 Mayor Burns have to get your card first.
00:51:38.05 Jeff Jacob Hello, Mr. Mayor, City Council, and citizens.

of Sausalito.

We're talking about Dunphy Park.
00:51:46.99 Joan Cox Actually.
00:51:47.09 Jeff Jacob I'm sure.
00:51:47.88 Mayor Burns I'll tell you.

This is public comment. So it doesn't have to be. It could be. It could be whatever you want. This is public comment. Duffy Park is on our agenda as far as the improvements. So you want to wait until that item to talk about Duffy Park?
00:51:59.73 Jeff Jacob Well, to be honest, I'd rather talk about it now if that's okay.
00:52:00.72 Mayor Burns Do you want to change your next list?

No, because we have an item on the agenda. So would you like to talk about something not on the agenda? Except this is the non-agenda items public comment.
00:52:09.06 Jeff Jacob Oh, um...

Yeah, absolutely.
00:52:13.97 Mayor Burns Yeah.
00:52:15.09 Jeff Jacob Mr. Yes.

since we just got to do four.

Thank you again.

I'd like to talk about something called pro se.

that I've been coming here for A few years.

and trying to figure out along with you I'm not sure how social justice works.
00:52:44.41 Jeff Jacob that one of our allies in the IJ, Chad Carvey said, What we need to do is negotiate with the city.

If we have to file lawsuits, and engage in protests.

and or civil disobedience, Nobody wins.

I'd like to politely Disagree with that.

as the law.

against Schoonmaker's Point Marina.

for, you know, the Dock blocking.

taking the cleats, from their dock and making it Much more difficult for THE 100 PEOPLE.

who live offshore, TO COME ONSHORE.

We try to talk with schoonmockers.

We tried to talk with the city.

And we, talked with each other, Sometimes successfully and sometimes a little less so.

And now, A suit, my first one has been filed.
00:54:03.30 Jeff Jacob On my mom's death bed.

I was very privileged to be with her the last Three weeks.

I made a promise to her.
00:54:19.32 Jeff Jacob For an Israelite boy growing up, We had a couple choices.

over what we want it to be.

We could be a doctor or a lawyer.

kind of like that.

My brother chose lawyer, And...

the court.

As I promised my mother on her death bed.

I now am engaged in social justice and in the law.

I'm urging everybody that has an issue.

If they cannot resolve it, to also do what We have done.

Thank you.
00:55:03.82 Mayor Burns Thank you. Any other public comment?

on items not in the agenda. Seeing none, I'll close public comment.

and open up for action minutes of the previous meeting move approval and this is for the March 12th
00:55:16.56 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Second.
00:55:19.02 Mayor Burns All in favor? Aye. That passes four to zero.
00:55:26.99 Mayor Burns Next up is a council member committee reports. And this is the time for the city council to report on any of the committees they've attended in the last two weeks related to the city.
00:55:40.98 Jill Hoffman Yeah.

MCCMC, we all attended the Marin County, whatever it is, Marin County Council members and mayors.

There was an excellent presentation about smokeless tobacco and targeting of school age children, really great panel for that. So anyway, I think we were all there.
00:56:01.95 Adrian Brinton All right.
00:56:02.36 Jill Hoffman you
00:56:02.43 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.

Thank you.
00:56:03.08 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
00:56:03.61 Susan Cleveland-Knowles you Last night I went to the same MCCMC, the Marin City Council and Mayor's Group Homeless Committee meeting.

And it was an informational only meeting, but incredibly interesting with a lot of very exciting initiatives.

one that we're mostly familiar with is the mobile shower program which has expanded will be expanding to fairfax and corta madera larkspur shortly so jesse taylor vermont from the downtown streets team gave that presentation the second was a really interesting presentation that i think our city manager has also been involved in this group the the opening doors, Marin Howard Schwartz. And he gave a update of a countywide task force on chronic homelessness and just a lot of exciting initiatives happening on that front. And then lastly, we had the director, Louis Jordan of the Marin Housing Authority and his deputy, Kimberly Carroll there to talk about the section eight opportunities in marin county and also the golden gateway project in golden gate village project in marin city and other public housing and sort of their path forward on that so that was a great event and then um i also just wanted to let other council members and the public know that mayor Burns and I have been focusing some efforts recently on reaching out to families in Sausalito, given the kind of great increase in the number of people with young children.

that are choosing to stay in Sausalito and make that their home and raise their kids. So we have met with the Willow Creek Parent Council. We've reached out to a couple of the nursery schools and met with the head of the Sausalito Moms Group, who now represents, I think she said, 70 families with children under four, which for a town of our size is significant. So we are hoping to have kind of a listening session at a council upcoming council meeting to focus on what the city is doing well for that group and what we might do better and to Thank you.

not lose sight of all of our other important constituencies, but to just hear from that particular community. So I don't know if you have anything to add to that.
00:58:44.00 Mayor Burns Nope, that was a great meeting and I look forward to that process. A lot of fun. Thank you. Joan.
00:58:49.05 Joan Cox On April 23, I attended a general plan advisory committee meeting. I don't need to share the content of that because you have a report and we will be hearing in great detail from the M group tonight, but you have a report in your in your council materials, I have attended a couple of meetings of the Association of Bay Area Governments, ABAG, Metropolitan Transportation Commission, MTC, Housing Legislation Committee, where we have been focusing on AND I THINK THAT'S A affordable housing bills and last week agreement was reached between Senators McGuire and Weiner to combine SB50 and SB4 Utilizing a 600,000 person or county population threshold so that certain of the provisions of SB4 will apply for counties under 600,000.

and certain Other provisions will apply to counties over 600,000 The counties over 600,000 comprise about 82% of the population of California. The next meeting of this legislative committee is tomorrow at 3 PM and there will be a remote location right here in our council.

conference room from 3 to 7 p.m. to consider
01:00:17.69 Unknown Thank you.
01:00:17.88 Joan Cox additional pending housing bills.
01:00:22.39 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Can I ask you a question for my own edification and the public? A lot of people are...
01:00:24.63 Joan Cox Please.
01:00:28.26 Susan Cleveland-Knowles following the housing bills and not a lot of people are aware of what the merger of the two bills meant. So what would be your recommendation for an online you Yeah. Resource to understand the current state of the housing bill. So the current state.
01:00:46.97 Joan Cox status, the current SB 50, which is now both SB 4 and SB 50, is scheduled to go public.

Today or tomorrow. Okay. There is an outline of amendments currently available.

And not a lot has changed between the two bills. So for SB 50, historic districts will be be exempted from the housing from the increased housing regulations where those historic districts existed, in 2015, in 2010 or earlier.

I'm The coastal zone exemption for those communities of 50,000 or less is across the bill, regardless of the size of the county.

And the definition of bus stops for the larger counties, Los Angeles, San Jose, San Francisco, has been updated. The number of bus stops that will be affected and subject to SB 50 will be reduced to approximately 60 to 67% statewide.
01:02:03.89 Mayor Burns And that went from 15 minutes down to 10 minutes of stop on both directions. So it's very busy bus line. Reducing that impact greatly.
01:02:12.28 Unknown Okay.

Thank you.
01:02:16.56 Joan Cox And then we have asked both senators to Um...

figure out how we will measure the success of these bills. Because as we face other housing bills in the future, we think it's important to have metrics for understanding whether these provisions are actually having positive impact.

Thank you.

Thank you.
01:02:38.94 Mayor Burns Thank you.

THE END OF THE END OF THE I attended just one meeting last week, it was as representative of the MCCMC to the North Bay League of Cities. To legislative day in Sacramento where we went to the hearing for SB 4 and 50 and met with McGuire both on that and SB 5 that was pretty much launched in a press conference that day. We also met with North Bay Senate leader, our Senate member Bill Dodd and got a little more information on ADUs and some of the expectations that will be coming as far as communities like ours to fund ADUs.

So again, always changing in the housing world until something actually gets built. We will continue to have a lot of discussion about people who don't build houses. Is there anything else on committee reports? Seeing none on council member committee reports.

It's time for our consent calendar.

And this is the time where we listen to items listed under the consent are considered routine and non-controversial. We have 5A through G, I don't see any recusions or conflicts on here. Are there any questions or comments on any of these from us before I open to public comment?

Seeing none, I'm going to put up public comment for items on the consent calendar. This is items 5A through 5G on our consent calendar. Seeing none, closing consent calendar public comment.

Adoption or motion?
01:04:14.59 Joan Cox Move adoption of the consent calendar. Second.
01:04:18.13 Mayor Burns All in favor? Aye. That is four to zero on consent. We're up to our public hearing items.
01:04:18.97 Joan Cox Bye.
01:04:19.65 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Bye.
01:04:24.73 Mayor Burns And we have a Fun and interesting item first up here, the introduction of a sidewalk ordinance first reading.

If I marry...

our city council from the desk as Serge I'm just prepping. Let's go on.
01:04:40.17 City Clerk (Unknown) I'm just prepping.
01:04:50.92 Mary Wagner Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of the council. While PowerPoint's coming up, I'll get started and let you know that the item in front of you tonight is a sidewalk vending ordinance and it's in front of you for introduction and first reading A little bit of background, recently adopted state law SB 946 called the Safe Sidewalk Vending Act.

Imposes limits on a city's ability to regulate sidewalk vendors.

kind of your traditional push cart vendor and also stationary sidewalk vendors. Previously, cities had pretty broad ability to regulate any kind of sidewalk vending.

for public safety reasons. But this new legislation prohibits jurisdictions from banning push cart sidewalk vendors and stationary vendors who set up stands on city sidewalks to sell their goods. It does allow cities, however, to impose reasonable regulations regarding the time, place, and manner of the use of sidewalks, if it's directly related to health, safety, or welfare concerns. I think this largely came up in reaction to some restrictions that were imposed primarily in Southern California. I think Los Angeles particularly resulted in some litigation and has then resulted in these changes to the state laws. This is pretty small, but this is the same information that's in your staff report. Our proposed regulations mirror what the state law allows us now to do. So we've created a sidewalk vending permit. Anyone who wants to be a vendor in Sausalito would have to come in and apply for a permit. And if applicable, they would have to have other permits such as a mobile food facilities permit from the county.

They can require identifying documents, but state law limits what you can ask for. So we've included those restrictions in here. We would also have an indemnity and hold harmless agreement and proof of liability insurance.

There are regulations regarding no obstructions of the sidewalk and the legislation does include that you can't obstruct a sidewalk. That would reduce the width to less than 48 inches for safe passage and ADA concerns. Stationary sidewalk vendors are only allowed on sidewalks that are at least 10 feet wide.

I have not checked what our sidewalk width is, but I doubt that there's very many places in Sausalito, perhaps a couple downtown.

in the vicinity of Yitakchi Park, that might qualify, but other than that, I can't off the top of my head think of any.

There are hours of operations that are imposed.

Thank you.

residential zones which can only be mobile, Um, Sidewalk vending, no stationary vending is allowed in residential zones. We've included an 8 AM to 7 PM or sunset, whichever is earlier.

That's consistent with our current regulations about door to door peddling and solicitation.

And then in commercial zones, we've included hours of operation between 7am to 10pm.

And the reason we did that is state law specifically says that you can limit hours of operation so long as they're not unduly restrictive.

And in non-residential zone, any limitations on the hours of operation, can't be more restrictive than any limitations on the hours of operation imposed on any business that's in the vicinity of that sidewalk or in that zone.

So this seemed to be consistent with those regulations. Vending in a public park can only occur when the park is actually open. And our parks are open sunrise to sunset.

Sidewalk vendors can't be any closer than 20 feet from each other.

You can't sell alcohol, tobacco, or tobacco products, including vaping products. There are regulations regarding sanitation and then the actual receptacle that you utilize to conduct the sidewalk vending.

Stationary sidewalk vendors, as I indicated previously, are prohibited in all residential zones. Thanks to the good work of the legislative committee, we define this to specifically include any mixed use zones such as the CR zone. So any zones, even if they were created in the future, that were mixed commercial and residential zone, we would prohibit stationary sidewalk vending in those zones.

It's also prohibited in the immediate vicinity of a farmer's market or special events. That would apply to something like the art festival or any other events which are issued special event permit in the city. The ordinance includes 200 feet as what we believe is kind of a reasonable determination of immediate vicinity.

So that's included in your regulations this evening for your consideration. I do want to spend a little bit of time talking about this next slide, which is we have included regulations prohibiting sidewalk vending in the downtown area.

We included the same definition of downtown area that we utilized for bicycle parking because of the same time, place, manner, and safety concerns that we have with bike parking. So you all recall, of course, the many discussions we've had about what happens in the downtown area with numerous bikes on the sidewalk, pedestrians on the sidewalk.

And it becomes.

a safety concern and These same concerns apply to sidewalk vending. These heavily utilized sidewalks become impassable, pedestrians go out into the streets.

Impairing circulation and causing a risk to the public health, safety and welfare. So we did, it didn't come, there it is, look at that. We included a little map, this is the same map we showed you when we talked about bikes in this area. It's really not that big of an area when you look at the overall area of Sausalito, and there it is a little more up close.

Um, And again, this is to ensure safe traffic flow and the safety of pedestrians on the sidewalk and the roadway.

This would also include whatever downtown area parks are in that.

that defined area.

These have the same congestion and safety concerns. We want to ensure that the public's able to use the resources and participate in the recreational opportunities that our parks provide.

And kind of prevent an undue concentration of activity in those areas that are already heavily impacted and heavily congested.

The penalty provisions, and this is directly out of the state law itself, Sidewalk vending violations are only punishable by a fine and cannot be criminalized, so we can't impose any criminal penalties, which we typically do. Typically, they could be charged as a misdemeanor or an infraction, and the police or whoever's issuing the citation has the ability to determine what best fits the situation. We did include that the city can rescind the permit for a remainder of the permit term, which is only one year.

on the fourth or subsequent violation.

The penalties themselves, if you have a permit and there's a violation, it's $100 for the first violation, $200 for the second, $500 thereafter. And as I indicated previously, fourth and subsequent, you can just revoke that permit.

If you're vending without a sidewalk permit, the fines can be a little bit higher. And again, thanks to the legislative committee, we've included that in your draft in front of you tonight. So $250 for a first violation of vending without a permit.

500 for a second and a thousand for each additional violation within one year I also want to mention that the state law requires that you have some ability to pay determinations, so that is also included in the ordinance you have in front of you tonight.

So with that, our recommendation is that you introduce, read by title only, and adopt the ordinance that you have in your packet, and I am available for any questions.
01:12:34.86 Mayor Burns Thank you Mary, and we are going to ask you some questions. I'm going to remind everybody, we're going to open up public comment at the end of our questions. If you have a comment you want to make on this item, please fill out a green card and bring it up to us. I see a couple that are going to be coming up. So questions. No questions. Yeah, you guys have heard this, huh?
01:12:48.28 Susan Cleveland-Knowles No questions.

I guess my only question is whether we've had any interest in Thank you.
01:12:58.91 Mary Wagner The community development has had a couple of inquiries about our permit process and particularly in the areas you would expect. I think one was a hot dog.
01:13:02.62 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
01:13:08.07 Mary Wagner vendor another something similar ice cream Thank you.

Thank you.

I'm getting help. Really? Three words. Visual help. So yes, we have had some inquiries.
01:13:13.64 Louis Rafa Thank you.
01:13:13.74 Adrian Brinton Yeah.
01:13:13.76 Susan Cleveland-Knowles THE END OF THE END OF THE
01:13:13.79 Adrian Brinton THE FAMILY.
01:13:13.98 Louis Rafa Three words.
01:13:14.82 Susan Cleveland-Knowles visual.
01:13:15.72 Louis Rafa Thank you.

Visual.
01:13:19.92 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay.

And does the downtown area, when the map that you showed up had a carve out, but you flipped through it, does that include Grape-Rielsen?
01:13:30.09 Mayor Burns No, but it's part of a park, so it's...
01:13:30.14 Susan Cleveland-Knowles I'm sorry.
01:13:33.94 Adam Politzer Do you know? Yeah, it's right to the left of the lab club there. It's in the shaded area.
01:13:41.10 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay, oh yeah, I see that. So the answer is yes. Yes, okay. So that's the area that it's not permitted.
01:13:42.12 Adam Politzer Thank you.
01:13:42.16 Mary Wagner So the answer is yes.
01:13:43.68 Adam Politzer Yeah.
01:13:47.51 Mary Wagner Thank you.
01:13:47.52 Mayor Burns Thank you.
01:13:47.56 Susan Cleveland-Knowles THE FAMILY.
01:13:47.63 Mary Wagner All right.
01:13:47.64 Mayor Burns Correct.
01:13:47.88 Mary Wagner Thank you.
01:13:48.65 Mayor Burns that.
01:13:51.44 Mary Wagner both.

Okay. Well, no, because it's in the downtown area. Okay. I'm sorry, again, Mr. Mayor, I pointed out.
01:13:56.54 Mayor Burns Okay, because that...
01:13:59.83 Mary Wagner that those parks are in the downtown area because the statute specifically talks about restrictions and parks and your ability to regulate restrictions in parks.

Thank you.
01:14:07.84 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay.

MS.
01:14:09.04 Mary Wagner or impose restrictions in parks.
01:14:09.18 Susan Cleveland-Knowles SHARMINI PERIES.
01:14:11.98 Mayor Burns What is considered vending? And is it receiving funds? Is it referring somebody to somebody else who receives funds? It's a typical. Like a bike tour operator who doesn't take funds there, but is providing a service on the sidewalk?
01:14:22.47 Mary Wagner It's a typical.
01:14:29.98 Mary Wagner So it's defined in your packet, and we have a definition of sidewalk vending, and if you give me a second I can turn to that.
01:14:32.60 Mayor Burns Thank you.
01:14:36.46 Unknown Page 234 of the packet.
01:14:39.60 Mayor Burns Thank you.
01:14:39.62 Unknown Thank you.
01:14:39.67 Mayor Burns the mic.

I have five pages in mind.
01:14:45.15 Joan Cox It's page three of the ordinance.
01:14:45.78 Mary Wagner read.

So it's actually the act of selling food or merchandise from a push cart, stand, display, pedal-driven cart, wagon, showcase rack, or other non-motorized conveyance. So it contemplates an actual product and not necessarily somebody asking if you want a taxi ride or if you want to rent a bike.
01:14:54.03 Louis Rafa OKAY.
01:15:00.27 Louis Rafa Yeah.
01:15:10.67 Mary Wagner Now, if someone were to construct a...

something on the sidewalk and be impairing circulation with that activity.

that could be subject to other regulations.
01:15:24.23 Mayor Burns And then what do we determine on the size of their displayed permit? That's not overly
01:15:30.94 Mary Wagner We haven't talked about the size of their permit.
01:15:30.95 Mayor Burns We haven't.

Okay, but they will display something. Yes. Okay, that the public can see.
01:15:35.02 Mary Wagner Yes.
01:15:37.95 Mayor Burns All right.

See any other questions, I'm going to open this up to public comment. I have one, David Sudo, I think I have another one coming. Yes, please. So David, you go first.

Thank you.
01:15:55.30 Mary Wagner And while David's coming up, I apologize, Mr. Mayor, I neglected to tell you that I did speak with the Executive Director of the Chamber and let her know that this was on your agenda and we also sent it out to the Business Advisory Committee members.
01:16:02.88 David Sudo you're going to be
01:16:09.48 David Sudo Good evening, Council. I'd like to just emphasize that this bill was put through the state as a social justice issue, and we need to make sure that I think that we live up to that kind of – emphasis that was put on the bill and I think you know I recognize that the downtown area has a lot of congestion but I also think that if we're allowing our our businesses downtown to use the sidewalk that that we need to be uniform if we're gonna allow you know downtown businesses to use a sidewalk we should be allowing vendors to use the sidewalk as long as they're not blocking Thank you. If we're going to allow downtown businesses to use a sidewalk, we should be allowing vendors to use the sidewalk as long as they're not blocking a throughway. It just seems that we either should do one or the other, but not be excluding people from making a living.

because we decide that one use is higher than another if they're creating similar kinds of congestion on the sidewalk. Thank you.
01:17:31.84 Mayor Burns Bonnie Walters.
01:17:36.03 Bonnie Walters Hi, my name is Bonnie Walters. I'm a business owner in Sausalito, and I'm an artist. I participate in the San Francisco Arts Commission Street Bending Program for street artists. I was very excited when I saw this, and I want to put a little bit different picture of street vendors in your mind. My business is Sausalito Seaglass. I make jewelry out of seaglass. I also sell some art. It's beautiful. I have a beautiful stand. I could set up in a very small area. Actually, what's kind of excited about this is the program for Sausalito. And you may want to put regulations on it that maybe we want to start our own little arts commission. I don't know.
01:17:36.47 Mayor Burns Hi Bonnie, thank you.
01:18:22.62 Bonnie Walters Yes.

But I have a lot of questions, and I have to say my spirits got damned as I read and listened to the restrictions because I do not believe there are maybe any sidewalks in this city that are 10 feet wide. There are a few little areas where they expand out, where they go around a curve or a corner, or there's just some little change. So it prohibits almost all of Sausalito's sidewalks. I was hoping maybe we could be in the parks. We have to be 20 feet apart, I think, so not too many of us would fit in there anyway, and I think that most of us could and would be respectful of setting up a vending stand that is an asset to our community and not just something that's in the way. So I would like for you to reconsider some of the park areas within that downtown corridor. So let's see if I have any other questions that weren't answered by the presentation that was given earlier. You mentioned, is it Mrs. Wagner? Ms. Wagner? You mentioned that there is a permit available now. Is that correct for purchase?

Thank you.
01:19:44.94 Mayor Burns I'm sorry, what's that? Yes, please, Mary, is there a permit available?
01:19:44.97 Mary Wagner I'm sorry, what's that?

I don't know protocol. Not yet. It would go into effect after second read in 30 days.
01:19:51.82 Mayor Burns Yeah.
01:19:52.04 Bonnie Walters Thank you.
01:19:54.13 Mary Wagner Thank you.
01:19:54.17 Bonnie Walters Okay, thank you. Have you determined what the fee is?
01:19:59.79 Mayor Burns We'll get all that. All right. Just ask us your series of questions.
01:20:01.41 Bonnie Walters All right.

Series of questions.

Well, I think that covers my questions and my comments. It's like we're welcome to come, but where? So thank you.
01:20:12.75 Mayor Burns Great. Thanks, Bonnie.

Any other public comment on this item? Public comment on the sidewalk ordinance? Oh, we got one other one coming in.

Jeff Jacob on 6A, public sidewalk coordinates.
01:20:32.15 Jeff Jacob Hello again City Council I just want to reintroduce myself.

and tell you how I, make a life.

and not a living.

In 2019.
01:20:52.13 Jeff Jacob Over seven years ago, We were in front of the Federal Reserve Banks
01:21:01.72 Jeff Jacob And Our movement was called Occupy, very military term.

And we lost the battle.

and We came back.

At that time.

I...

felt, And others felt too that it would be hypocritical of me to be standing in front of the banks, And also have a bank account.

I WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT gave up my boat.

Gave up my ID.
01:21:41.34 Jeff Jacob And- I've only...

BEEN ABLE TO SURVIVE.

WITH THE HELP.

of the poorest people in Marin County.

the anchor outs.
01:21:57.76 Jeff Jacob I'm also editor and publisher of a periodical, It's very periodic, called the Anchor Out Chronicles.

And...

I'm not sure what I'm saying.

the vending or selling, of newspapers.

That's obstructing free speech.

So I'm hoping.

that you make sure that in this bill, There is an exception.

THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO
01:22:36.69 Jeff Jacob IT DOES SEEM very strange that It would say 10 foot sidewalks when most of Sausalito above the flats, has no sidewalks, of any kind, that A park that was used for vending.

If you want to read how this happened.

You can read this month's issue of Harper's Magazine.

There's a very good article in there about My friend, Bo.

And his vending in the corner of Dunphy Park.

which added color and art,
01:23:18.90 Jeff Jacob So I will listen. I'll listen to your discussion.

and we'll see If your response.

Is responsible.

Thank you.
01:23:33.51 Susan Cleveland-Knowles I just wanted to thank Jeff for bringing up that article on Harper's this month. It was really a very nice article on life on the water. And there was also a KQED report that our council member, Joan Cox, was interviewed for along with a number of other people for Bay Curious. That was a really great history of life on the water and some current issues. So thank you, Jeff.
01:24:04.88 Mayor Burns Thank you. Any other public comment? Seeing none, close it and bring it up here.

What are you thinking? Any comments? Any comments?
01:24:16.19 Joan Cox I think, well, as a member of the legislative committee, obviously we did get first crack at this and we proffered it in its current form.

I think it's especially important in the downtown area, we just in our Consent calendar this evening received a report on our congestion management efforts downtown because we are challenged, um, throughout our downtown area by our mix of residents and tourists. And it's important to preserve our downtown area for the enjoyment of our residents, as well as for the enjoyment of our tourists. And so I think these reasonable time, place, and use Um, provisions are tailored to ensure that we comport with the state law SB 946 in a reasonable manner appropriate to Sausalito's constraints.
01:25:16.56 Mayor Burns Did you discuss David's point on the social justice or at least that it have the same Bearing is we do allow local businesses to protrude into the sidewalk.
01:25:30.55 Joan Cox So we did not compare and contrast the sidewalk vendor to the parklets, which were um, actually adopted by the city council after a pilot program was first put in place to assess their impact on congestion and their suitability for the downtown area. So that program was commenced as a pilot program and then subsequently adopted. The park the park
01:26:01.64 Mayor Burns let's be in the dining tables in front of the restaurants. Correct. Okay.
01:26:03.68 Joan Cox Correct. Yeah.
01:26:06.45 Mayor Burns We definitely do, yeah.
01:26:12.91 Mayor Burns Thank you.
01:26:12.96 Adrian Brinton THE END OF
01:26:13.40 Jill Hoffman Yeah, I don't have any to add. I think Joan summarized our thought process at the legislative committee.
01:26:22.19 Adam Politzer Great.
01:26:23.03 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
01:26:23.46 Adam Politzer to Jeff. So yeah.
01:26:23.91 Susan Cleveland-Knowles So, yeah, I just have, I mean, I think Ms. Walters, who spoke, raises a good point, and David Sudo as well. I mean, I kind of see this as
01:26:24.62 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
01:26:38.85 Susan Cleveland-Knowles We've had a lot of these state laws that have come down recently where we kind of have to impose, we have to have a plan or The default is kind of we have to allow everything.

And so I kind of see this perhaps as.

In my own framework as a pilot, I would be interested in having the community development department keep track of who asks about permits and kind of have some way of documenting if there is interest and what kind of vending um you know is it residents and local businesses is it artists from our own community are that's outside some commercial kind of formula retail vendor who's everywhere and just kind of keep track on it and perhaps get a report after this summer's season is over i agree that we have very high congestion downtown and i wouldn't want further obstruction of public right of way and the sidewalks which are already pretty crowded. But on the other hand, I think there can be some benefit and some liveliness from independent businesses on the street. So.

I think I'm okay with this as an initial as an initial trial, but I also don't want this to be kind of shut the door to thinking about this moving forward. So if that seems like a reasonable effort for staff to kind of collect information and not just say we don't allow this to people that come to the counter, but kind of try to do minor information gathering and then maybe report back at the end of the summer i think i would be in favor of moving it forward and i'd also encourage um miss walters and others to present the types of business ideas that you and other local artists might have to the chamber, to the city staff, so that we kind of have a better understanding of how that might look. I really appreciate your coming down. And I don't think our intent is to squash any kind of local initiative on this front.
01:29:11.80 Mayor Burns Okay.

I have no other comments. I think that's great.

Appreciate your comment.
01:29:16.10 Joan Cox Okay, I will move that we introduce, read by title only, and adopt an ordinance of the City Council of the City of Sausalito, amending Title 13 of the Sausalito Municipal Code to add a new Chapter 13.33, Sidewalk Vendors, and amend Section 13.20.010, definition of peddler for consistency, and that we simultaneously direct our community development department to do some information gathering to keep track of who asks about sidewalk vending permits and report back to us on the level of interest and the types of vending being sought.

at the end of the summer.
01:29:56.72 Mayor Burns All in favor that passes for 0.
01:29:57.64 Joan Cox Hi.
01:29:58.34 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
01:30:02.60 Mayor Burns Thank you. Thank you, Mayor.
01:30:08.59 Mayor Burns Next up we have our general plan update as our business item.

And we have presenting Lily Whalen, our Community Development Director.

And the team from M Group, welcome.
01:30:30.17 Unknown Good evening, Mr. Mayor, council members.
01:30:30.24 Unknown Good evening.
01:30:33.86 Unknown I'm here to briefly introduce this item on the general plan update and then introduce M Group who's here to give a more thorough presentation. So by way of background.

The council awarded a contract to M Group for the update of our general plan.

In February of 2017.

Subsequently, in June and July of 2017, the council appointed the full general plan advisory committee.

M group led the update through the understanding phase, which began in July 2017 and then completed in March of 2018.

In April of 2018, the visioning phase began, and we're currently in that phase right now.

The remaining phases of the general plan update include drafting the general plan, and preparing the supporting environmental documentation, and then the final phase would be adoption and certification.

M group has presented the council via the staff report this evening with a revised scope of work and related budget amendment request of $90,593 in response to a series of issues that have affected the path between the previously completed tasks and the end goal of an adopted general plan.

Thank you.

Bye.

in November 2020.

They've also prepared a report of activities that have happened with the general plan update since the last report to the council in January of this year.

And so with that, I'm going to hand off the bulk of the presentation to Heather Hines, who's the principal with M Group, and then we also have Jeff Bradley, who's also a principal with M Group, here in the audience to answer any questions, along with Tom Ford, who's the new project manager for the project with M Group.
01:32:26.54 Heather Hines Good evening, Mayor Burns, Council Members. So Lily's done the introductions. We're happy to be here tonight to kind of provide you with an update on the most recent couple months with our work with the GPAC And also, walk through a revised work plan that we have presented to the council for consideration Um, So, The revised work plan before you is really looking at task 13 of our previously approved work plan.

The modifications are really to memorialize topical discussions with the GPAC as part of the visioning stage of this project.

you So what we are proposing, is to change up the way Task 13 works a little bit in response to some of the feedback we've gotten from GPAC, some of the things we've heard from Boards and commissions and members of the public which starting with would be a series of GPAC meetings that would invite boards and commissions to come to specific GPAC meetings and have a facilitated dialogue with the GBAC.

We went to the boards and commissions as part of the understanding phase to get an idea from them on the current conditions, HOW THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING, WHAT'S IN THE GENERAL PLAN NOW, HOW THAT'S BEEN WORKING. THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HAVE NOW APPROACHED STAFF WHO'VE TALKED WITH M-GROUP ABOUT HOW DO WE GET INVOLVED NOW IN THE VISIONING STAGE. WE'RE INVOLVED IN THE UNDERSTANDING PHASE. WE WANT TO BE AT THE TABLE AS PART OF THE VISIONING STAGE. SO ONE OF THE CHANGES IN TASK 13 Is to set up about five meetings with the GPAC where there would be two boards and commissions at each of those meetings that would be able to have that discussion with with the GPAC to give their vision in the visioning stage on their specific expertise.

Another major change in Task 13 has to do with the Marin ship.

So as we've been working with the GPAC, one of the things we've heard is a lot of interest with the marineship probably the area where there seems to be accepted that there will be the most discussion about the different policies, the different directions things could go.

So what we've done in the revised work plan is we've added a workshop specifically on the Marin ship. We've also We've added some tasks so that not only would there be the workshop, but then there would be a subsequent GPAC meeting.

that would allow the GPAC to kind of distill some of that policy direction that comes out of the discussion at the workshop.

And then a study session with the council so the council could weigh in, that policy direction we received from the GPAC on the Marin ship topic before we incorporate it into the general plan update.

Another piece of the marinship aspect of the change work plan is an economic analysis. And this is something that came up specifically, and I think you received as late mail a copy of A letter from the GPAC Vice Chair, Werner, about economic analysis that was desired specifically in the MarinShip, existing businesses in the MarinShip, in order to have and facilitate that Marinship workshop.

So we've coordinated with our economic sub, EPS, provided them with that letter from Mr. Warner, which was discussed with the GPAC as well.

And they have provided a scope that would provide that additional economic analysis. So that's another piece in the additional budget and also part of that kind of enhanced marineship discussion.
01:36:33.52 Heather Hines So I wanna note that outside of task 13 we're not proposing any other changes to the additional tasks, task 14, 15, 16, 17. The only other change that we're proposing with the budget is some additional hours for project management. And that's really a result of the.

longer timeframe of this project than when we originally did our proposal and came under contract with the city
01:37:06.26 Heather Hines So I also want to note, M group has been working, currently we've been working outside of the approved budget and scope. And that has happened as a response to GPAC discussions, trying to pivot with the group, address things that come up, be responsive to that.

So I do want to note that The additional budget that we're requesting is not trying to recoup for all the additional time spent. It's really trying to kind of start where we are and move forward and lay things out to efficiently be moving forward and maintaining that project completion of October, 2020.
01:37:47.87 Heather Hines So this is a general schedule, it kind of looks at everything laying out with that October 2020 adoption and certification process.

And I think an important thing to note here, is what we are proposing to do is some work simultaneously. So when we're doing those GPAC meetings, we're doing those stakeholder meetings, we're also going to start the policy framework.

So what we'll be doing is we'll be taking the outline that the GPAC already discussed, and we will start filling that in with the direction that we've already been given.

And what this will also allow us to do is to return to the GPAC with the policy framework element by element.

So that they'll be seeing that along the way, instead of waiting until the very end.

with a draft general plan.

with everything kind of, being shown together. So it'll allow us to do those check-ins, and start that policy framework.

with the policy direction we've been given so far.

We also are going to be.

Thank you.
01:38:47.93 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Yes. Sorry, Heather. So, and how is that iterative process meant to work with the city council? So what we have in our.
01:38:47.95 Heather Hines Yes.
01:38:56.94 Heather Hines Thank you.
01:38:58.14 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
01:38:58.16 Heather Hines Revised, go.
01:39:01.03 Susan Cleveland-Knowles And are you saying you've already received policy direction on Thank you.
01:39:06.88 Heather Hines Yeah.
01:39:07.00 Susan Cleveland-Knowles ALL OF THE ELEMENTS?
01:39:07.15 Heather Hines All of these.

On pieces.

Yeah, on pieces, on certain issues. There's some policy direction that we've been given so far from the GPAC that we don't want to see much change with these policies. These policies are good. They still represent.

where we're going, where we think the community wants to see the general plan, this is an update, not a full sale rewrite.

And so those are things we're going to continue. Or there's been pieces that we've received policy direction on. So we want to start flushing that out within the outline.
01:39:43.13 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay, so I just don't, I've read the updates that we get. I don't remember seeing any to say, So they're making...

So,
01:39:53.41 Heather Hines So policy direction, questions that have come up, we want to see. We had a discussion recently about the waterfront path.

the trail along the waterfront and do Who do we want to How much change do we want to see with that? Do we want to see a lot of change? Do we want it really formalized? Who is our audience? Is it good the way it is? Can you navigate that area? So we got some policy direction from the GPAC on that, for instance.
01:40:22.43 Joan Cox which is reflected in the report on the consent agenda.
01:40:28.49 Heather Hines And so what this also does is that when they're looking at the policy framework, element by element, there is then a study session where then that would come to the council to confirm that policy direction. So both one study session specifically with the marinship, but then the other elements after they've gone through the first round of discussion with the GPAC.
01:40:52.62 Joan Cox So Heather, the only thing the council has approved so far, Is the existing conditions report and the audit.
01:40:58.14 Heather Hines Thank you.
01:40:58.21 Adrian Brinton Right.
01:40:58.26 Heather Hines Thank you.
01:40:58.41 Adrian Brinton Thank you.

Correct.
01:40:59.49 Joan Cox Thank you.

So none of the other policy direction is in cement, it's simply a recommendation from the GPAC.
01:41:08.08 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Right, and I guess that just goes to my earlier question. So if the M group is going to go prepare draft plan elements based on that policy direction, is that an efficient use of time if the council has not?

had a general buy in. I mean, I just want to avoid getting to a kind of finalish product and then three of us who haven't been there are kind of going, well, this isn't.
01:41:33.64 Unknown Thank you.
01:41:33.88 Louis Rafa Thank you.
01:41:37.58 Susan Cleveland-Knowles And I'm not saying anything that's happened is, you know, that I don't agree with it. I'm just curious...
01:41:45.20 Heather Hines Well, I think the way we've envisioned it is almost like an annotated outline. So not bringing you completed elements where we're asking, okay, it's time. Let's, can we adopt this? We're trying to bring forward topics and areas that are flushed out or have the policy direction has been.

stay much the same as it is Today, this is not an area.

that we want to see a lot of change.
01:42:12.47 Mayor Burns policy direction from the
01:42:14.52 Heather Hines From the GPAC.
01:42:14.58 Mayor Burns From the GPAC. GPAC. Yes.
01:42:16.79 Heather Hines So then it would be bringing it up to the council to walk through that and get feedback on this isn't quite the way we want to see it go, or yes, we totally agree with that.
01:42:32.25 Joan Cox Can I just add, so I think you're making the council nervous because it sounds like the GPAC's been giving out lots of policy direction. And truthfully, that is not my impression. We've been saying where we needed more data in order to give policy recommendations.
01:42:49.51 Mayor Burns Yeah, but the problem is you've far exceeded the meeting. So you've gone way off into an area and it hasn't come back up here for direction or policy consideration. It's been going further and further into areas that is now, what are we, eight meetings, ten meetings over the expected point. But well under the expected point of what we're coming up here to do. So I think that's kind of, and frankly we've not done one.
01:42:51.12 Joan Cox Yeah.
01:43:17.71 Mayor Burns we've said in some, but at some point I think we kind of needed someone to say, you know what?

you're in the weeds or you're giving us wants and not needs.
01:43:24.21 Louis Rafa Thank you.
01:43:24.23 Adrian Brinton giving us a chance.
01:43:24.65 Louis Rafa you
01:43:26.60 Mayor Burns Thank you.

So we can limit those numbers of many, many meetings that occurred prior to coming up here for a policy decision.
01:43:33.56 Joan Cox The only thing I would say is that In the initial work plan, there were two meetings projected for visioning.

Which is the entire work.

So I cannot speak to why the meetings have exceeded whatever the the meetings set out in the initial work plan were. But if you look at the outline of the initial work plan, it showed two meetings for which is really the meat of the general plan process. So I I was.

I was shocked also to see that we're at 28 meetings when we had planned for 18. I don't know where that went awry. We have certainly never not accomplished within an evening's agenda, what was on the agenda for that meeting, we've never run over.

We have asked for additional information with respect to the marineship and that was pretty much unanimous by the
01:44:35.44 Mayor Burns Well, I think we're going to make comments on all that at some point. So I think let's let Heather get back.
01:44:36.89 Joan Cox Thank you.
01:44:36.92 Heather Hines D.P.
01:44:37.19 Joan Cox Thank you.
01:44:37.23 Heather Hines Thank you.
01:44:37.95 Joan Cox Yeah.
01:44:39.17 Heather Hines Yeah.

I want to.

I just want to point out that There was a few meetings like when we were forming the GPAC. You know, there's been a few meetings here and a few meetings there. They haven't all been, we haven't done 28 workshops on visioning.

It's been since the inception. And so there was a few extra meetings with the formation of the GPAC.
01:44:55.25 Louis Rafa Thank you.
01:44:55.37 Bonnie Walters Yeah.
01:44:55.60 Louis Rafa Thank you.
01:45:01.97 Heather Hines And we, you know, We worked with it. I think we had an extra meeting with EPS, There was an extra meeting or so there's been a little here and a little there.

We really, I think the GPAC has, gotten into a good dialogue now and there's actually digging in and talking about the topics that are there to discuss. We've provided a lot of information, but now I think we've gotten most of that information.

getting into the to the visioning and the discussion.

Um, We've been trying to kind of roll with it and respond to the GPAC's need for data, need to have discussion and dive into this process, so I think the policy framework actually kind of create something that wasn't as well defined in the current work plan to bring those policy frameworks back up to the council.

As well as the Marin ship discussion
01:46:04.62 Joan Cox Well,
01:46:04.93 Unknown Thank you.
01:46:06.38 Joan Cox Mr. Mayor, may I add one more thing, since Councilmember Withey is not here.

He had specifically requested.

In fact, both of us specifically requested in a meeting with the M group that the future reports to the council, now that we're in the visioning process, be business meetings and not consent. So that there's a regular check in and no longer. Let's get back to that. Okay, thanks.
01:46:27.45 Adrian Brinton Thank you.

THE END OF THE END OF THE
01:46:30.56 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay, and can I just following up on one comment that Heather made? I mean, I do think there have been a lot of requests for more data. And I do feel like that has got to be tightened up at some point in the sense that we can ask, I mean, there's just, there's so much information. But at some point, we need to kind of start to get to the consensus building.
01:46:50.74 Heather Hines sense.

Okay, let's see. So we talked about preparing that policy framework at the same time we're doing some of these stakeholder meetings, trying to pick up some efficiencies and timing so we can stay on that October 2020.

We're also working with First Carbon, who's our environmental consultant, to start kicking off the environmental, the scoping process. So that will be something that we hope to start this summer, to start some of that work so that can be happening simultaneously too.
01:47:31.66 Heather Hines And really the result of that is so that when we bring everything together, everything's lining up, all the pieces are coming together so we can start that GPAC review, April.

2020 and be starting that adoption process in June 2020 so we can go to the Planning Commission I think we have a couple meetings at the Planning Commission and a couple meetings at the City Council as well for that adoption process so I did also want to touch a little bit on One of the things that was really important when M group made their proposal and what we heard as we got under contract with the city was that we had a robust community outreach.

program in our proposal.

So when we did do modifications to task 13, Some of those shifted, but they kind of substitute. So we had something I believe we had in the, in task 13, we had coffee chats. Those are now changing to stakeholder meetings we had a community workshop that's now being focused as a marinship community workshop so I just want to point out that we haven't taken those opportunities for community engagement out, they've shifted, but they're still there and we're still attempting to maintain kind of a equal or more than with those opportunities So myself and my colleagues are here to answer questions on the proposed work plan, budget schedule, or anything that was in that monthly update, if that's helpful.
01:49:06.13 Mayor Burns Yeah, I have a couple of things.

Thank you.
01:49:09.56 Unknown Thank you.
01:49:10.50 Joan Cox So Heather, I was shocked to find that we had had 28 meetings when you had been planning 18. So I'm wondering if you're able to provide us now with the agendas for the remaining number of meetings that you anticipate having so that we know now.

what meetings we should expect to have regarding what so that we can manage to be sure that we're accomplishing within each meeting what you were projecting that we are accomplishing. We don't get to plan.

what, The content of our meetings is we simply receive an agenda from you and the community development department. And so I would like to have a system whereby the council can measure whether the M group and the G pack are staying on track, because I had no idea.

until I read your staff report.

That we were off track, and you know we've been requesting this information from you since the end of last year.
01:50:09.09 Heather Hines And the intent of putting that was, I was not trying to be, there was not trying to be a shock value, but just trying to demonstrate that we have been trying to to continue this process to keep the timing going and the project moving forward.

while we've been trying to pivot and respond to two comments and discussion. So now we're trying to kind of solidify task 13 so that it's really clear what the next steps are to get through the next A couple months into the fall, and then it would then move into the production of the general plan update.
01:50:45.34 Mayor Burns And I appreciate that, that we don't want to sit here and say the committee or the direction or anything was lacking. But one of the things we're doing tonight is spending $90,000 more of the public's money. So I just want to say, I want to kind of, where did we miss?

Boards and commissions want to be part of the vision. So that was one of the changes.

I'm not sure that could have been identified before because we have active boards and commissions that wanted to be part of this process. And I know a board member that's in here tonight that could have saved you an hour and a half of time on that meeting regarding the marineship trail, because we had talked about it. And he and the committee had some ideas as you were talking about the widths of trails and who's going to prune the trees.

Not necessarily where we would have wanted to go with that meeting. Marinership enhancement.

That's pretty much the general plan.

economic analysis of the marineship, which is 90% of the economic analysis of Sausalito. So that these things are new and new items for us to pay for. I just want to have the discussion of as we ask for more money from the community to do this, that somewhere we missed something.

in the planning that these are now being taken care of as items of change order when to me they seem very consistent with what would have been a normal scope of a general plan
01:52:10.61 Heather Hines So I can respond to a few of those. The additional study from EPS is one thing that, you know, that's a new thing that came up, kind of the level of detail I think you all saw.

that letter from Mr. Warner and it really digs down.

We hadn't scoped something that detailed in in it, so some of that is, whether we thought there was more information available specific to the Marin ship.

whereas the information we've been able to get has been more generalized, in Sausalito and not specific to the Marin ship.

So we don't have that information readily available, which is some of why that more detailed economic analysis is needed.
01:52:54.72 Mayor Burns It's been requested by a member of the GP.
01:52:56.83 Heather Hines No, it was discussed by GPAC. So it was brought up and it was agreed that That was something that everyone felt like needed to happen in order to dive into the discussion. Sounds like policy.
01:53:07.48 Joan Cox Sounds like a policy.

Thank you.

So I will simply, so there are two pieces of paper on the dais. One is Bill's letter and the other is the overview.
01:53:11.51 Heather Hines This is a paper on the dais. One is Bill's letter,
01:53:15.90 Joan Cox And what Bill's letter did was give links to how other municipalities had analyzed their waterfront as they were looking at whether or not to change the use within their waterfront. And so there were four examples. You have nine pages on the dais that were excerpted from these-
01:53:33.87 Adrian Brinton I'll read those later.
01:53:35.45 Joan Cox And so the GPAC that.

One of the questions posed by the M group to the GPAC was, do you have enough information to make policy recommendations? And the GPAC's answer was no. So, but.

Thank you.

truthfully, The M group is waiting for direction from the council about whether to proceed with this EPS additional scope of work. So they've delayed the report on the marineship.

So that the council can give policy direction on whether or not to provide the level of detail that the GPAC is seeking.
01:54:09.29 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay, it's just, I think it's just confusing and a little difficult for, we got late mail
01:54:09.37 Joan Cox to the next episode.
01:54:16.02 Susan Cleveland-Knowles A letter from Bill Werner from January.
01:54:18.62 Unknown Yep.
01:54:18.96 Susan Cleveland-Knowles and that came, I don't know when.
01:54:20.71 Unknown 5 o'clock.
01:54:21.71 Susan Cleveland-Knowles I, you know, So that's just very frustrating to get that now.

Then we have correspondence from another GPAC member Peter Van Meter.

that also came that's a good thing.
01:54:34.97 Joan Cox That was included in your regular packet.

you That was timely. That was included in your regular staff report.
01:54:38.31 Susan Cleveland-Knowles included in your book.

Anyway, okay.

But it doesn't seem to go with this vision that everybody is on the same page asking for the same economic analysis. And then these excerpts also came And I guess are just an exemplar of the detail of the work.
01:54:58.55 Joan Cox Of how other agencies.
01:54:59.44 Susan Cleveland-Knowles of how other agencies, so this is what we would be paying the...
01:55:03.51 Joan Cox Thank you.
01:55:03.93 Mayor Burns group to do.
01:55:05.50 Susan Cleveland-Knowles whatever.
01:55:05.82 Joan Cox Thank you.
01:55:05.85 Mayor Burns or we're re-scoping?
01:55:06.02 Joan Cox Thank you.
01:55:06.14 Susan Cleveland-Knowles THE FAMILY.
01:55:06.23 Joan Cox Yeah.
01:55:07.34 Mayor Burns .
01:55:07.95 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
01:55:07.98 Joan Cox If that's the council's direct, if that's the council's.
01:55:08.23 Mayor Burns If that's the council.

direct
01:55:11.81 Joan Cox The GPAC has requested it, but the M group is bringing it to the council for decision.
01:55:16.03 Mayor Burns I get that part.
01:55:18.12 Susan Cleveland-Knowles And can I just ask what we are economically analyzing? I mean, it seems the way that I have seen plans like this work is that you come up with a concept or maybe two options.

you know, stay the course or modest growth or whatever. I'm just picking two things out of you. And then you have an economic analysis of is you know, staying the course feasible while protecting for sea level rise, having circulation and keeping our tax base healthy. But I'm not sure what are we looking at right now? Do we have options of growth alternative scoped is that
01:56:01.91 Joan Cox So one of the challenges for some of the members of the GPAC has been that we've been hearing different testimony from different members of the marineship. We've heard from some constituents who say that there are businesses that are thriving, growing, and and easily sustainable and then we've heard from Bruce Huff and others that the Marin ship is economically challenged.
01:56:30.16 Mayor Burns So we didn't start hearing those reports recently, we've been hearing those for years. We have. And we toured there and we've talked.
01:56:32.85 Joan Cox We have.

true. And so as part of the GPAC process, we, members of the GPAC, want to know what is so. What really is going on? And all we have so far is colloquial evidence that, you're correct, Mayor, we've been hearing for years, we're asking for data so that we know what And so, we have to do that.

Mr. Werner went out in January and did some research about other municipalities and you know the rest. He gave some examples and the GPAC got behind.

this recommendation but we have to bring it to the council for direction.
01:57:13.61 Susan Cleveland-Knowles So it's an as is economic study? Correct. Okay, so that I don't.

Don't.

generally believe is that helpful because whether or not businesses are thriving, and I think there are thriving businesses there, we know objectively that the infrastructure is not up to par. I mean, you don't need a study to tell you that the streets, roadways, storm drains, are failing or in serious need of long-term infrastructure investment. So somebody needs to pay for that long-term infrastructure investment. So our general plan for the next 20 years, in my opinion, needs to plan for that.

So to me, the question is what levels of different models could, you know, if just staying the course, will we be able to put the, the investment into the Marin ship that it deserves to sustain the thriving businesses that are already operating there, or do we need to make some changes?

So unless we have those modeled, I'm not really, or, and just in general terms, I don't, A static economic analysis to me is not uh, the most important thing that we need. We need an economic analysis that is based on options.

And if we don't know what those options are, at least in general terms again then I am reluctant to put in this investment I mean, we're not at the comment phase, but that's kind of just what I'm struggling with, with all this.

And I don't feel like that's really been grappled with at the GPAC.

I'm interested in your input if I'm off the
01:59:13.78 Joan Cox GPAC has not grappled with those issues because they haven't gotten any data. And they're waiting for the community workshop.
01:59:13.92 Susan Cleveland-Knowles The check has not grappled.
01:59:22.25 Joan Cox with the data to then have the brainstorming session regarding the possible future of the friendship.
01:59:28.23 Susan Cleveland-Knowles But then we're going to need another 90,000, and then we're going to need another economic study to study what that proposes.
01:59:34.59 Heather Hines So we did start talking about looking at different like, stay the course, minimal change, moderate change, right? So different levels of change. And the feedback was how can we even know?

what level of change we should look at if we don't have the existing analysis on the economics in the marinship.

I think that's where we started talking about this was when we did start talking about different alternatives.

and the GPAC was concerned with you're jumping way too far ahead.

we need more information so we can talk about what those different levels are. That is a way to do it, is to kind of create three scenarios, right? Where you and you gauge response to three scenarios.
02:00:24.08 Susan Cleveland-Knowles And when we had our direction, sorry to interrupt, but when we had our direction on the Marin ship before about whether we were looking at a, another specific plan or a I thought we talked about those three scenarios and I thought we were in agreement or some scenarios.

I think we wanted to pursue those.
02:00:43.09 Heather Hines Right, that to, there was a, I think the direction was, and somebody please jump in if I'm.

but the direction was to look at superseding the specific plan, that the Marinship specific plan wasn't working anymore, and to look at how to address that.

Correct. I think it was left open like that. It wasn't a specific whether there should be a new specific plan, it should be in the general plan, it should be a zoning amendment. Those were kind of some of the things, but that the existing one was no longer useful.
02:01:17.86 Mayor Burns So kind of throwing it back to you as a question of if we do this with EPS and have this economic analysis, will it provide a stronger or a direct nexus to the decision we have to make on those elements, or is it just going to be more information to sift through and then have a different nexus proposed for whichever way we want to go with the marine ship?
02:01:40.16 Heather Hines I think it has a lot of focus on the existing conditions and understanding the existing health and vibrancy or lack thereof, of businesses in the marineship and sought to seek input from those businesses specifically on What do you need? What are you putting into your business that What have you put into your business? What do you need to put into your business that you You haven't. What have you been seeing?

the effects of sea level rise, And what do you anticipate? What do you anticipate needing to keep your business vibrant in the next, you know, the foreseeable future? So it...

It was static in the existing, but it was also forward-looking and trying to get that input from existing businesses on what they need to continue to thrive in the marineship.
02:02:31.27 Mayor Burns Okay, the reason I asked you again is-
02:02:31.69 Heather Hines So it was a little bit of a hybrid there.
02:02:33.94 Mayor Burns Because I just, you know, I love data. And I want data. And then, as I always say, and then there's data that I need. And I just want to make sure we're not spending a lot of money for data that we want.

or that,
02:02:44.36 Heather Hines THE FAMILY.
02:02:44.43 Mayor Burns THE END OF THE END OF THE
02:02:44.50 Heather Hines Thank you.

And so I will say that one of the things, and we've been talking, EPS has not initiated work on this, but we have been trying to queue it up because we also feel like, we got to be moving.

But one of the things that was feedback from the GPAC on That survey is a real desire to keep it anonymous, to keep that feedback and not business specific and so there is a due dps is grappling with how do we keep things anonymous to the extent we can, but still get good data to provide sound analysis of the existing situation. Does that make sense?
02:03:29.39 Mayor Burns Yeah, as far as that, yeah. Yeah, it does. Thank you.
02:03:32.34 Heather Hines Thank you.
02:03:32.36 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Right, but I mean we've got existing businesses, but we also have future businesses. So, and both of them are important. So we've got some businesses that are thriving now that will not thrive moving forward. We have some businesses that are thriving now that will continue to thrive. So the survey is just one piece of information. It is just one piece.
02:03:53.86 Heather Hines It is just one piece, yes.
02:03:58.01 Susan Cleveland-Knowles All right, well I don't know if this is the appropriate time to comment, but My position at this point is that we are not in the information gathering phase anymore. We are in the visioning phase. And so any economic analysis from my perspective to be worth our investment needs to It can take existing data, but it really needs to be forward looking as to what investments.

we need to make to keep the Marin ship thriving.

And how can we pay for that with existing businesses and what do moderate small and moderate changes look like moving forward and how does that influence what we can do can we have more open space and that you know beautiful bike path if we have make some modest changes can we How do those things intersect?

Can we fix our roads with our existing businesses, or do we need to make moderate or more moderate changes? So that's the kind of economic analysis that I would like to see, and that I would find valuable for the visioning phase.

Um, And I don't know if that's an increase in the cost from what we're looking at, but otherwise, I feel like we've gone beyond information gathering.

or we should be beyond that.
02:05:24.58 Unknown Joe, please.
02:05:26.33 Susan Cleveland-Knowles We haven't had that before.
02:05:27.29 Unknown you
02:05:27.46 Susan Cleveland-Knowles We haven't had any comments from you yet.
02:05:27.50 Unknown We haven't had any comments from you yet.
02:05:28.69 Mayor Burns Yeah. For questions, yeah.
02:05:30.99 Susan Cleveland-Knowles because that wasn't a question.
02:05:33.22 Mayor Burns Nothing.

Any other questions before I open up to public comment?

I'm going to open to put up a comment. If you haven't already, and I'm sorry, I didn't ask earlier, fill out a green card. This is an opportunity for the public to speak on this item. I see Keith Kennedy getting up, heading towards the green card. Come on up to the counter, Keith.
02:05:56.57 Mayor Burns Any others?
02:05:59.51 Keith Kennedy I'm Keith Kennedy, Prospect Avenue.

I'm the quietest member of the GPAC committee I'd say the least.

But I want to emphasize that what Councilmember Cleveland Knowles says is our current goal. We have to get to what we can afford. That was my original comment when I interviewed in front of the City Council was when I looked at 1995, we had a rosy plan and no fiscal reality connected to it whatsoever.
02:06:34.12 Louis Rafa Yeah.
02:06:37.43 Keith Kennedy So I'm glad to hear coming from the Diaz that that's where we need to go.

Thank you.
02:06:43.79 Mayor Burns Do you support the economic analysis?
02:06:47.13 Keith Kennedy I didn't say that.
02:06:47.90 Mayor Burns THE END OF THE END OF THE Okay.
02:06:48.21 Keith Kennedy Yeah.

I was very careful in what I was saying that I thought Councilmember Cleveland Knowles was saying it's time to move on.

And get to this, what can we afford?
02:07:06.08 Mayor Burns Thank you.
02:07:07.04 Susan Cleveland-Knowles So can I ask a question?
02:07:07.70 Keith Kennedy Yep.
02:07:08.21 Mayor Burns Thank you.
02:07:10.94 Susan Cleveland-Knowles in our packet we have the letter from january from uh mr warner we have an fxm associates overview examples that look like they're very analytical of existing conditions.

I haven't been able to read this all because we just got it. And then do we have any other scope for economic analysis?
02:07:41.45 Joan Cox You do have a letter from Peter Van Meter who says that um, The essential marine ship economic analysis is missing from the proposed revised work plan.

And says that he believes the essential analysis that's required is not in the current work plan proposal. So he's saying we need.
02:08:01.90 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay.

So our, and would you concur that our current proposed scope of work for the economic analysis that we're deciding on tonight is not complete?
02:08:03.89 Joan Cox So our...
02:08:15.67 Keith Kennedy I think we have a lot of data and we can move on. It was our chairman, Council Member Cox said that There's a lot of business thriving. There's a lot of business that isn't thriving. I think it's time that we move on. We're in the visioning stage. I don't really support getting additional data at this point.
02:08:44.93 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay, and what about economic analysis that looks at these broader questions about-
02:08:50.98 Keith Kennedy Absolutely has to be done because that's how we'll know whether we can afford it or not.
02:08:55.73 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay, but that, as I understand it, is not in the scope of work.

for the
02:09:02.36 Joan Cox We have not seen a scope from EPS, so. Okay.

All right.
02:09:08.52 Mayor Burns Joan, you just said that Peter Van Meter was in favor of this economic analysis.
02:09:08.71 Joan Cox Thank you.
02:09:13.39 Joan Cox He's asking for more economic analysis than what is reflected in the revised work plan. I'm just reading from his letter. Yeah, but he's also saying rely on.
02:09:18.92 Mayor Burns Yeah, but he's also saying, rely on prior studies and not doing this.
02:09:22.73 Adrian Brinton it.
02:09:22.97 Keith Kennedy Yeah.
02:09:23.02 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
02:09:23.04 Keith Kennedy I have objected with Peter before in terms of the amount of data he wants. There are members on the G PAC who will ask for data until 2030. I think we have to move on.
02:09:36.32 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thanks.
02:09:39.90 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay, thank you.
02:09:40.98 Joan Cox Thank you.
02:09:41.58 Mayor Burns I don't...

Yeah, thank you.
02:09:43.02 Joan Cox Very much appreciated.
02:09:44.18 Mayor Burns Yes, thank you.
02:09:45.67 Joan Cox So he's saying it falls far short of answering essential questions needed for policy decisions affecting the future of the Marinship. He confirms what Heather said that in October we looked at three analysis scenarios.
02:09:56.62 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Yeah, that's what I thought.
02:09:57.73 Joan Cox And it was reported that the economic impact of each land use alternative would be modeled on a number of listed metrics. We have not seen that.
02:10:06.00 Mayor Burns The net analysis is not of the proposed plan.

And my personal recommendation would be to replace the survey in time and cost and rely on prior studies for current status.

I mean, that's right there.
02:10:15.70 Joan Cox The survey, he's talking about the survey, he doesn't think the survey is useful.
02:10:24.51 Mayor Burns So I have two more coming up.
02:10:27.43 Joan Cox But he also said, sorry.
02:10:28.56 Mayor Burns So anyway.

David Sudo, then Bill Hines. David and Bill.
02:10:38.01 David Sudo I would just urge city council and GPAC members to go read, go look at the old Sausalito news articles between 1956 and 1960, because almost exactly the same things we're discussing right now, and especially marineship topics are pretty much exactly the same. And I think one thing, we don't want to waste money, and we want to be focused on what we need to do. But things like the marine ship seems like we need to spend the time to figure it out this time because we've literally been working on it for 60 years, and we still haven't figured it out. And the problems down there have only gotten worse. So we need to spend what we need to spend to get that problem solved. And it seems like the general plan is the time to do it. You know, those old news articles are very enlightening and would give a lot of perspective to the decision makers on going forward. Thank you.
02:11:02.80 Louis Rafa Amen.
02:11:36.74 David Sudo Thank you.
02:11:36.99 Unknown THE FAMILY.
02:11:37.26 Susan Cleveland-Knowles So thank you, David. If you have any handy and want to send them to the council that you think are particularly relevant, that would be helpful.
02:11:41.75 David Sudo So that you think.

If it's really relevant, that would be helpful. Yeah, I'll peruse some and send some relevant information.
02:11:47.64 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Given my skill on Google, if I go looking for 1950s articles, I'll...
02:11:51.55 David Sudo Abbott I'm sure could help you out. 20 hours later.
02:11:52.90 Susan Cleveland-Knowles 20 hours later I'll be.
02:11:56.24 Mayor Burns Thanks David. Bill Hines.
02:12:03.77 Bill Hines Hi, I just wanted to speak as a an employee owner of an employee owned company and a business in the Marin ship. Our business is thriving. I think we are sort of a grandfathered use in the Marin ship. And I just wanted to echo the sentiment of Susan Cleveland Knowles in sort of having a better understanding of the economics that are going to make the development of the Marin ship.

Thank you.

both understandable to the community as a revenue generation tool and I think also out of this process what the city would hope to identify are potential development partners in embarking on some sort of venture and I think for the reasons that Mr. Sudo has mentioned and the fact that not a lot has happened over the last 50 or 60 years, it's now going to require certainly some private investment of a significant degree to make something happen in the Marin ship. And I think that having some Some understanding of the economic analysis might help elicit how this type of project might be appealing to certain investors, and it's a very important component of understanding how doable the project is. Mr. Kennedy had mentioned the fact of just understanding the costs. I also think that there's an element of understanding the potential partners in embarking on such an endeavor. He had mentioned the fact of just understanding the costs. I also think that there's an element of understanding the potential partners in embarking on such an endeavor that the economics would help to highlight or sort of hone in on.
02:13:50.93 Mayor Burns Thank you, Bill.
02:13:57.53 Mayor Burns I'm just going to speak to Bill's question really every time comment because I completely agree with that and I...

I would love to use data for that decision type making process. I'm concerned that we're basing too much potential outcome on this survey. People want this information and it can be valuable to an extent. It's going to bring up more questions and it's going to bring up more like, I don't trust that number but I like that one. If we really wanted to look at the entire economic scope from how that marineship would work in the future, it would not be to the tune of this. It would be about ten times this amount. It would be basically what we're doing in the general plan because there are so many elements financially to consider. But this is going to be a small part, and it's going to be a valuable part to some decisions.

I don't know if it's going to provide the nexus for anybody to make a direct decision on how we're going to proceed. It's going to give people information to go one way or the other. I'm not saying I'm not supporting it.

I just want to make sure we're having this discussion on the expectation of what this money is going to do as far as how we plan the marineship because as a number it's lacking but as an idea it's asking a lot. And for somebody to say, well, I don't believe that, I'm still gonna go with my old ideology or my old understanding or my own opinion.
02:15:15.76 Joan Cox And mayor, we definitely have grappled with the survey approach that it is challenging because not everybody will be candid because they'll be afraid of recriminations if their identity is revealed. And I think that's why Peter says, We should replace the survey time and cost and rely on prior studies for current status, but then do a detailed quantitative economic analysis necessary to make informed land use policies for the marineship.
02:15:41.41 Unknown ANALYSTED.
02:15:47.82 Joan Cox the GPAC is looking for is the information we need to make informed decisions about the future of the Marin ship.

Thanks for answering my question. Quite honestly. That's great. Quite honestly, we don't know precisely what that will be.
02:15:56.39 Susan Cleveland-Knowles So that's quite honestly. That's great.
02:15:58.89 Mayor Burns the
02:16:02.06 Joan Cox entail and you know Bill Werner gave one recommendation but We don't know.

We're relying on our consultants to provide us with the information. They do this as their business.
02:16:18.10 Mayor Burns I know. And that's, you know, we're, $90,000 is a lot of money. And it's not all to this, I get it.
02:16:18.45 Joan Cox And that's, Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm going to go.
02:16:24.12 Mayor Burns THE FAMILY.
02:16:24.32 Joan Cox Thank you.
02:16:24.88 Mayor Burns But then it's not a lot of money for the question we're asking to be answered.
02:16:27.75 Joan Cox Right.

I mean, if you look at it from David Sudo's perspective, that area has lain fallow in large measure for 60 years. If we're able to solve this puzzle with an investment of $100,000, it would be well worth it. And shame on us for not doing this 40 years ago.
02:16:39.02 Mayor Burns With Venice.

It would be well worth it. Shame on us for not doing this 40 years ago.

But I don't think we'll answer that question.
02:16:45.21 Joan Cox I'm not sure.
02:16:51.73 Mayor Burns Any other comments?
02:16:55.83 Susan Cleveland-Knowles No, I'm just, I mean, I remain, I think we were told in the presentation that the letter from committee member warner was the direction from the dpac and i don't think that's actually how you're framing it i don't think that's what i heard um from mr kennedy I think that the way that you just framed it and the way that Peter has framed it in the letter is the more important information. I mean, if we could have everything, that would be great, too. But I don't feel like we have a cost in front of us tonight about whether this analysis is feasible given the budget that we're looking at for this evening. So I think the options for me, and I don't know how the council members feel, is that we could continue this and see what kind of scope of work we can get more in this direction of the...

the various models for decision making and see if we can get something within our scope that will more move in that direction.

um, I'm just not comfortable moving forward without knowing if we can get a meaningful product for this amount of money.
02:18:06.60 Andrew Davidson Thank you.
02:18:06.62 Unknown Thank you.
02:18:06.64 Heather Hines I'm just kidding.
02:18:13.72 Susan Cleveland-Knowles I...

you
02:18:14.65 Heather Hines So can I clarify, I think what I'm hearing you say is instead of focusing on economic analysis of the existing condition now, the preference would be to have an economic analysis that looked at,
02:18:14.67 Susan Cleveland-Knowles So can I.
02:18:30.06 Heather Hines potentially three scenarios in two or three scenarios in the Marin ship to look at You know, status quo, I think you said, if we stay the course, can we afford the changes that we need? So kind of if things stayed status quo, if things changed a little bit in these ways, or if there was more change and looking at the economic impact of those three options to decide which direction to go.

Is that?
02:19:01.26 Mayor Burns Yeah, that's the quandary I think you've got us into. We're a horse in front of the cart right now.
02:19:05.07 Heather Hines Yeah, and we can definitely go back to EPS talk to them about doing that.

They do have some budget in the, implementation and financing plan, but I think this is a step before that. They did do a more in-depth analysis as part of the understanding phase to look at the fiscal implications of land use decisions. We took kind of a the original economics and then there was a request to kind of dive in a little bit deeper. So we did do some of that, but it wasn't marineship specific. So what we can do is go back and get try to get an idea of how they would frame looking at a couple different alternatives.
02:19:47.73 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Yeah, and the alternatives that we looked at in October, I think, which improved business as usual, strategic adjustments and values based growth, I think were the.
02:19:58.68 Joan Cox Thank you.
02:19:58.70 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
02:19:58.82 Mayor Burns Three options.
02:19:59.85 Joan Cox you
02:19:59.93 Mayor Burns Thank you.
02:19:59.95 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
02:20:00.41 Mayor Burns And then totally speaking outside of what we're doing here, in another community that you may or may not have worked in, but hypothetically, if we were looking at a chunk of land or redevelopable or non redevelopable area would we kind of place our vision or what we wanted out of that and then look at the future economic analysis of our vision or would we Scope a bunch of different potentials, look at the economic analysis of those, and then create our vision based on those economic analysis, that information.
02:20:26.60 Heather Hines .
02:20:26.66 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
02:20:26.68 Heather Hines Thank you.

Well, often there will be a couple alternatives that you'll look at.

But we're talking about a really big scale. So it's obviously not going to go down to every single, a full economic analysis on every single parcel. We've got to kind of, This is our vision, right? This is our, so. Well, it's not yet, but yeah.
02:20:46.15 Adrian Brinton Well, it's not yet, but yeah.
02:20:47.45 Heather Hines We have to keep it a little bit up at the vision level. But it's not uncommon for there to be a couple alternatives that you look at, and then you look, economics would be one part of it. You also, you might use that in your EIR to look at traffic impacts.
02:21:05.92 Mayor Burns No, but I'm saying on this one we're going to analyze three scenarios. So basically we're going to pay for analyzation of three and use one and discard two because we're using the analysis to come up with our vision as opposed to the other.
02:21:17.22 Heather Hines as opposed to.

to the other.
02:21:19.11 Mayor Burns Right.
02:21:21.15 Heather Hines That would be one way you could do it.
02:21:23.03 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Yeah, but I think it's really helpful, I mean, from planning that I've seen in neighborhoods in San Francisco. It's really helpful to say what are the community benefits and the community values that we want to see reflected in this area. And I think we've all articulated those over and over again, you know, keeping the maritime history, respecting um, the industrial nature, the artistic history, I don't need to go through this. So those are important, but we also want, access by bike paths and other and open space. But can we support that with the current business model? Or do there need to be, are we willing to allow some modest development to pay for these things that we all want to see. And I think that's where when you've got those three models that you can see where do we have to go in that.

um, in that economic model to get what we want but preserve what we want i mean that's how you make that um that balance and that's what's important very important to me so i i guess i would love to go back to eps and see if we can get that i would also say we interviewed several very interesting candidates for the vacant gpac seat who had data and analytic and polling experience and i think that we might be able to draw on some members of the public to do some, maybe not perfectly scientific, but a good survey of existing businesses on a, Survey Monkey tool using the questions that were in here and get some really valuable information for not a high given these really qualified folks that apply. So I would be happy to help reach back out to them or
02:23:15.35 Mayor Burns I agree.

the conversation we've had with our business community. We need receipts and they said we have the receipts. Well, what are we gonna do with that information? We didn't know where to go with it.

So we were also going to spend money to have a survey to find out the numbers they all had. But the idea was once we got the answer, we didn't have a plan with what the answer was going to be. And that's what I want to be very cautious of, that when we get this data, that we're willing to act on that data and not say, that's great.
02:23:38.89 Joan Cox Right.
02:23:41.86 Mayor Burns What are we going to do with it?
02:23:43.46 Joan Cox So I want to bring up timing, because we're already behind in terms of having our marineship workshop. We asked for this data back in October, it's now April, and we haven't started on it.
02:23:48.66 Unknown Yeah.
02:23:58.07 Joan Cox and I'm worried about finishing the visioning process at times. So can you speak to that, Heather, about if we wait until our next meeting to review and approve a scope of work for EPS, will we still be able to maintain your current revised work plan?
02:24:01.31 Louis Rafa Exactly.
02:24:15.05 Mayor Burns or a way to do it earlier.
02:24:16.65 Joan Cox Or what?
02:24:18.04 Mayor Burns a way to do it earlier.
02:24:19.37 Joan Cox or figure out a way to do it earlier.
02:24:19.89 Unknown Thank you.
02:24:19.91 Mayor Burns TODAY.
02:24:24.72 Heather Hines I don't know. I mean, we know the marching orders are to finish by October 2020, so we are doing everything in our power to do that. I have to check with EPS, and I guess thinking about
02:24:42.13 Heather Hines I'm trying to think of different ways we could do it, whether you're going out and getting input on the alternatives in a workshop and then coming back and doing the analysis? Are you wanting the analysis done to go to the workshop?

So I really have to touch base with EPS to know how quickly they can, what they need from us and how quickly they can turn that around.
02:24:58.43 Louis Rafa Mm-hmm.
02:25:08.36 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Personally, I think it would be helpful for the public to have that information in front of them because then it's easier to react.
02:25:11.46 Heather Hines I would think so, then.
02:25:12.97 Joan Cox that.
02:25:13.03 Heather Hines Thank you.

Yeah.
02:25:15.23 Joan Cox Thank you.

And come up with other ideas and problem solving.
02:25:17.15 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
02:25:17.17 Heather Hines Yeah, I mean, they don't,
02:25:18.16 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.

Thank you.
02:25:18.94 Joan Cox Thank you.
02:25:18.95 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
02:25:19.63 Heather Hines So I, I, I can't say for sure because I have to check with them on the timing on that kind of
02:25:29.86 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
02:25:29.91 Heather Hines Thank you.
02:25:29.92 Susan Cleveland-Knowles So are we comfortable continuing this to May 6th? Is that our next meeting? May 6th.
02:25:29.94 Heather Hines Thanks.
02:25:30.02 Joan Cox a week from Dr. Morgan.
02:25:31.10 Heather Hines Thank you.
02:25:36.07 Joan Cox Can you bring that back to us by May 6? The staff report would be due May-
02:25:39.32 Susan Cleveland-Knowles I think that's Monday.
02:25:41.65 Joan Cox Thank you.
02:25:41.72 Heather Hines that.
02:25:42.02 Joan Cox Thank you.
02:25:42.06 Heather Hines Thank you.
02:25:42.12 Joan Cox 17.
02:25:42.23 Heather Hines Thank you.
02:25:42.24 Susan Cleveland-Knowles I'm not sure.
02:25:42.31 Heather Hines Oh, sorry, 14th?
02:25:44.42 Joan Cox May 14.
02:25:46.93 Heather Hines May 14th.
02:25:50.02 Joan Cox We just canceled the May 7 meeting, so you have all that extra time on your hands.
02:25:58.86 Heather Hines we will make something work.
02:26:08.16 Susan Cleveland-Knowles And I've lost track, is there something that we are okay
02:26:11.18 Mayor Burns Yeah, there's other expenditures on there.
02:26:12.33 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Expenditures that we are okay moving forward with tonight. So what's in?
02:26:18.86 Mayor Burns It's all one recommendation, so we'll need to remove
02:26:24.51 Joan Cox Well, I think we agree that we want to pay EPS, we just want to get a different scope from them.
02:26:34.44 Heather Hines It would be helpful to get an indication about the other pieces of, because we're kind of waiting to send invitations out to the specific stakeholder groups to slot them into specific meetings. So I think we're in a holding pattern a little bit on that piece of it, knowing if our revised scope is.
02:26:40.17 Joan Cox You're right.
02:26:40.58 Lisa Chilino Thank you.
02:26:40.60 Louis Rafa .
02:26:56.24 Heather Hines generally is. So we could do all of that.
02:26:57.98 Mayor Burns So we could do all of that and just tinker with the scope of this EPS.
02:27:01.27 Joan Cox We can approve this as presented and tinker with the scope of EPS and the dollars if maybe we'll spend less to do the three scenarios.
02:27:09.92 Mayor Burns the 14th will be then, they'll be already on their way and we'll be
02:27:12.83 Joan Cox They'll be already on their way. Right. That'll let you keep March smartly forward.
02:27:16.74 Unknown Smartly forward. Okay. Does that work with you guys too as far as you know?

Yeah.

Staff, yep.
02:27:24.07 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Or do we need a motion?
02:27:25.11 Unknown Thank you.
02:27:25.50 Joan Cox So, I think that the motion that we have, the resolution that we have, we have to take out.

we, um, It says, as described in the attached and incorporated by reference to the proposal for M group in Exhibit A.

say And to be modified on May 14 or something.

This is on the resolution that is right behind the staff report.
02:28:00.58 Adrian Brinton Mm-hmm.
02:28:05.44 Joan Cox I mean really it just says an expanded economic analysis specific to the marineship. So I think we just have to.
02:28:08.97 Mayor Burns Thank you.

Thank you.

to change exactly.
02:28:11.06 Joan Cox Adopt the resolution and say and direct them to come back for final approval of the expanded.

economic analysis.
02:28:19.87 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Second.
02:28:23.60 Joan Cox Thank you.
02:28:23.62 Susan Cleveland-Knowles I'm sorry.
02:28:23.87 Joan Cox Thank you.
02:28:23.97 Mayor Burns THAT WORK?
02:28:24.21 Joan Cox Thank you.
02:28:24.78 Adrian Brinton THE END OF
02:28:26.08 Mayor Burns All in favor? Aye.
02:28:27.28 Susan Cleveland-Knowles I,
02:28:29.32 Mayor Burns That pass is 4-0.
02:28:31.68 Susan Cleveland-Knowles AND, Can I just make one more comment while we're on this? I'm sorry, I know we've been spending a lot of time. So I'm looking at, so Joan, when I said I didn't understand that there had been policy direction. So you said it's in in the report so the monthly general plan update progress report It says, Just on this example that was being given. Which attachments are you looking at? It's, I think number seven.
02:28:53.42 Louis Rafa Okay.

was being given.
02:29:02.74 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Retachment six to this item. It says,
02:29:05.62 Adrian Brinton Yeah.
02:29:08.15 Susan Cleveland-Knowles On April 10th, the GPAC discussed the following topics. Number two was waterfront pathway trail. The GPAC discussed the existing pedestrian access along the waterfront. The vision for access as outlined in previous studies and policies and provided policy a direction for addressing access in the general plan update. So for me, reading this, Without going back and listening to an hour of the discussion at the GPAC, I don't understand what that policy direction was. And so it's.
02:29:32.30 Adrian Brinton Mm-hmm.
02:29:34.98 Susan Cleveland-Knowles That makes reading this not that helpful. But if I read this and I knew what the policy direction was, I could either be like, okay, that sounds good, or oh my God, they're doing...

Thank you.
02:29:47.76 Joan Cox The policy direction was to leave it as is, that it's right now as is suitable for residents and that we don't need a tourist bike path. But I do think that
02:29:47.77 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Yeah.
02:29:59.52 Joan Cox I think we should adopt Councilmember Withy's recommendation that the future updates to the council from the M group should not any longer be on consent, but should be updates where we ask question and confirm policy direction.
02:30:15.28 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay, so that the update should also include the policy direction. Correct.
02:30:15.65 Joan Cox I'm sorry.
02:30:18.82 Joan Cox Thank you.
02:30:18.84 Mayor Burns Correct. OK, but that might have a cost analysis to it for them to be here for that.
02:30:22.03 Heather Hines for them to be here for that.

So we're happy to kind of write that out in more depth. I understand what you're saying, that it doesn't provide enough information to...

I mean, Lilly can make the staff report.
02:30:33.02 Joan Cox I mean, Lily can make the staff report.

Lily can make the staff report and get confirmation from the council. It doesn't mean the M group has to come to our meetings, but it should be a business item.
02:30:36.39 Heather Hines Okay.
02:30:40.66 Heather Hines Okay.
02:30:40.96 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
02:30:43.04 Joan Cox where Lily
02:30:43.11 Susan Cleveland-Knowles where Lily is.
02:30:44.47 Joan Cox provides the update and confirms any policy direction.
02:30:47.92 Susan Cleveland-Knowles And I'm not talking about a lot more, like one or two more sentences that just said, wanted to keep it resident serving and in the same way.
02:30:48.49 Meg Fawcett as much.
02:30:48.96 Louis Rafa about it.

or just Thank you.
02:30:51.66 Joan Cox Got it.

But I think we have been uncomfortable now that we're in the visioning process we feel it's really important that the council be involved step by step.

before a bunch of policies are written and drafting is commenced.
02:31:11.14 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
02:31:12.05 Unknown Thank you.
02:31:12.62 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay, thank you, Heather.
02:31:16.57 Mayor Burns Do we need a break? How are we doing? It's 9.30.
02:31:18.58 Susan Cleveland-Knowles I know, but we've got lots of folks here.
02:31:20.35 Mayor Burns do have a lot of folks we want to get to and I think we can't anybody need anything right now we're good.
02:31:25.01 Unknown You got it?
02:31:26.56 Mayor Burns Okay, we'll keep going because we're going to do sewer, but catch up with us as you go to the restroom, we're going to talk about sewer fees.
02:31:34.15 Mayor Burns Oh, come on.
02:31:34.95 Unknown show.
02:31:35.59 Mayor Burns Who's up next? We have Vivian. I think I saw her back there. She's hiding like we might forget her, but no, we have it on an agenda.
02:31:43.69 Joan Cox Thanks to the M Group for being here tonight. We appreciate it. I'm Jeff.
02:31:44.85 Mayor Burns Yeah, thank you guys for being here. We appreciate it. Tom and Jeff, good seeing you.
02:31:47.27 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
02:31:47.37 Joan Cox Thank you.
02:31:47.38 Susan Cleveland-Knowles SEEMS.
02:31:47.65 Joan Cox Thank you.
02:31:47.81 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
02:31:57.61 Mayor Burns We should have called on you to make you.

Okay.

So this is introduction of sewer fee rate study.

Vivian Huesen are principal of Huesen & Associates.
02:32:14.70 Vivian (Public Works staff) Adam, do you want to make an introduction or should I just start? And with me is Kim Baylor from NBS who completed the sewer rate study that we'll be discussing tonight.
02:32:16.56 Mayor Burns Who?
02:32:16.81 Unknown Thank you.
02:32:27.38 Vivian (Public Works staff) So some of these slides you've already seen from a prior meeting, but we included them in this presentation in case there are folks who are listening to this discussion for the first time. As background, the city has about 20 miles of sewer pipes, and most of the sewers are 80 years old. Some are older. The city also has four pump stations and...

Through the city also runs facilities that are owned by Sausaludur Marin City Sanitary District. And the city's pump stations are shown in green and the Sausaludur Marin City facilities are shown So you see little squares, some of them are the city-owned pump stations, and some are owned by Sausalito Marin City Sanitary District. The flows are sent to the interceptor, which is in blue, that goes through the city to Sausalito Marin City, and Sausalito Marin City provides treatment and discharge of this flow.

So working together, the district and the city must address sewer infrastructure needs to protect the environment and to protect the health and safety of the residents. And we need to be forward thinking as climate and weather patterns continue to become more unpredictable.

The city is responsible for properly collecting and transporting and containing the raw sewage. And then as mentioned before, Sausalito-Britt City is responsible for safely and properly treating the waste water. And the district is also responsible for, oh, we have it twice. They do such a good job, they do it twice.

So just to give you some background on rates, and this is also a repeat of what was presented in a previous meeting. The city's last rate study was completed in 2014. The rates were established for five years, and that follows best management practices. And so the rates were established through fiscal year 2019, which ends June 30th of this year and that's why we're here today to present updated rates for the next period
02:34:19.07 Louis Rafa THAT WAS PRESENTED.
02:34:43.29 Vivian (Public Works staff) The sewer rates have a fixed component, and they also have a volumetric component based on average water use. And so as the water use changes, the rates do change for the various classifications. The city rates are collected through the tax roll for sewage collection by the city, and South Suderman City has its own rate, its own rate process that's running in parallel with the city's process.

The rates have three components. The rates must be sufficient to cover the cost of service, which includes operating costs, debt service on the 2015 sewer revenue bonds, and also there is a 2011 SRF loan.

And also capital needs and that includes work on your whiskey springs pump station at Coloma and and your annual pipeline replacement program and also unplanned emergency repairs.

So this slide was from the prior discussion and basically shows what we had originally looked at in terms of infrastructure replacement.

And what we discussed was the Nessie curve, where basically if you follow the pattern of development in the city, you end up with a curve that has a peak when the bulk of the development occurred, which was around a little bit before 1950 and through 1950, a lot of it is post-war.

And if an agency were to follow that trend in replacing pipes, the pipe replacement schedule would also look like that Nessie curve, and that does not follow best management practices for asset management because it doesn't allow you to collect fees and to spend your money in an organized and defensible way.

So what asset management does is it looks at your facility and tries to extend the life of the facilities as best you can. So it tries to, the asset management approach takes that peak of your Nessie curve and tries to push it out as far as possible so you're leveling your repair program and also to develop a funding plan that can fund that program in a consistent and stable way.

So at the last discussion, we talked about what would be a a reasonable rate of replacement for the system based on what we know of the condition of the system. And at that time we had.

really wanted to pursue a 3% replacement program and that would be replacing 3% of your pipelines annually for the next period. And that is because we're nearing the peak, that peaky part of that Nessie curve, and we really want to take some of that peak away so that you don't end up having even bigger expenditures in the future.

1% would give you a 100-year replacement cycle, and that would be a very good sustainable cycle if you had really good pipes and you'd been replacing them consistently for 100 years. There's no agency that has done that. Most agencies put their pipes in and then forgot about them for 100 years, and here we all are looking at infrastructure in the Bay Area. So 2% to 3% has been considered to be a good target for the near term to try to catch up on some of that deferred replacement, and so that was where we had looked at 3% replacement program.

And so NBS took that number and completed the initial rate study, and what they came up with was a program where, in order to fund the 3% replacement program, the city would need to consider rate increases of approximately 12% per year.

And with that number, that number didn't sit with us very well, so we looked at other scenarios. And we looked at the sensitivity of changing the amount of infrastructure replaced and how that would reflect in rates to try to find a good balance where the rates were reasonable, but also the infrastructure replacement continued to progress along the path that would reflect good asset management.

And so as a result of that, the resulting rate structure that Kim will be talking about proposes a structure that increases the rate by 4% annually for the term of the rate increase. But we've also looked at a 3% annual target, and we have some information on that as well. So with that.

you Kim Baylor.
02:39:36.00 Unknown We have a question.
02:39:38.30 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Well, I'm not sure actually if it's for Vivian or for you, but
02:39:38.85 Unknown Yeah.
02:39:42.97 Susan Cleveland-Knowles At some point in the presentation, I'd really love to understand how Doing 3% of our pipes per year results in a 12% rate increase, but doing 2% is only a 4% increase. I mean, that's a huge...

uh, From 12 to 4% is a big jump, but that's only 1% difference. Is that, I just didn't understand why that was so dramatic.
02:40:10.28 Vivian (Public Works staff) It is very big and I asked myself the same question actually when we were looking at these numbers. And if you look at these graphs, I don't want to jump too far ahead, but if you look at these charts, they reflect what Kim will be talking about in her next slides. The blue is the O&M.

portion of the budget.

The red is the debt service and the green is the capital. So you can see for the, 3% per year program. The capital as a percentage of the total cost was quite large. When we reduced the capital then as a percentage of the total cost, it shrinks quite a bit. So that difference in percentage is what created the difference in rate.
02:40:51.70 Mayor Burns That's what I was looking at, but then it's not really reflected when you go down to the 3% annual increase at 1.5. You have a totally different ratio there.

So now you're only gaining a half for a whole other percentage. That's where it kind of, because I was doing that same thing. And it's like, boy, I do that twice.
02:41:02.94 Unknown Thank you.
02:41:03.03 Susan Cleveland-Knowles FOR HOME.
02:41:03.26 Unknown I'm not sure.
02:41:08.17 Susan Cleveland-Knowles And did you look at replacement of 2.5%?
02:41:13.66 Vivian (Public Works staff) No, we didn't look at that.
02:41:15.18 Susan Cleveland-Knowles .
02:41:22.67 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) Okay, so the slide up here shows
02:41:23.80 Louis Rafa Thank you.
02:41:23.92 Mayor Burns THE END OF you Sorry, we're gonna get to you in a second.
02:41:25.84 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) Sorry.

Thank you.
02:41:26.58 Joan Cox When you're talking about replacement, are you looking at the technology of pipe lining or are you strictly talking replacement of pipes?
02:41:38.50 Vivian (Public Works staff) So when we were looking at replacement, in order to project budgets, we considered replacement of pipes.
02:41:44.00 Louis Rafa We
02:41:47.36 Vivian (Public Works staff) But saying that, so it was an average cost for replacement of pipe and some pipes cost a lot more to replace and some pipes cost a lot less even if you're replacing the whole Really, if you combine replacement with bursting, with lining, with point repairs, all of that on average, you will most likely could be.

arrive at this cost, unit cost per foot of pipe.
02:42:13.92 Joan Cox THANK YOU.
02:42:14.22 Mayor Burns Thank you.

And we hired somebody from Trenchless Titans who does pipe bursting.

So he knows it. Was it Weirma?
02:42:20.69 Adrian Brinton Yeah.
02:42:23.01 Mayor Burns Thank you.

Yeah.
02:42:23.84 Bonnie Walters No, it was.
02:42:24.67 Mayor Burns Luis.
02:42:25.92 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) Okay, so if we get into the details of the rate study, we followed a three-step process, which is typical for any rate study. First is the financial plan, and that's where we looked at all of the costs of the utility. So your operating costs, your capital replacement costs that Vivian was talking about, debt service, and we also looked at your reserve funds and how much you're having to reserve to make sure you have a sufficient amount of reserves going forward.

And we do the cost of service analysis, and this allocates cost to each customer class based on their proportionate share of costs. And then the rate design analysis is where we look at how to best recover the cost from customer classes. And we have maintained the city's existing rate structure. That was one of the goals of the study at the beginning. So we'll go over the details of what the rate options look like. This slide here shows the process and how we went through the study. So first, we looked at the financial plan, so your operating capital costs and developed rate model. That's where we looked at your reserves. And we looked at the customer classes, primarily residential customers and your commercial. But we looked at the the property tax roll data, so you put your charges on the tax rolls. We looked at customer classes, then we looked at average water usage that was used to calculate the sewer charges for this current fiscal year, and then looked at how the costs were allocated to the fixed and variable charges.

So this slide here shows the financial plan for the 4% scenario, which is staff's recommendations. This, as Vivian kind of covered already in the chart, the blue bars represent your operating costs. They're about $2 million per year on average over the five-year period. And then an average increase in those costs of about 2.7% per year.

We also have to debt service obligations there is a 2015 revenue bond and the The payment on that is about $427,000 per year. We also have a SRF loan that is just annual payments under $70,000 per year.

and then your capital expenses, what we're planning for in this option is about $1.1 million per year for the five-year period.

And the lines on the chart represent, the dotted black line represents where your rate revenue is now. There was no change to rates over the five year period.

At the end of the five years, you'd be running a pretty big deficit.

And the blue dotted line represents where rate revenue would be under this option.
02:45:18.01 Joan Cox Can I ask another question? Sure. Why are there green caps on four and not two of the charts?
02:45:26.01 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) Right, so that represents revenue or cash-funded capital in that year from incoming rate revenue and reserves. In the first couple of years, there is about $2.4 million from the 2014 bond proceeds that would be spent on your capital projects. So that's actually funding a good portion of those costs in the first couple of years.
02:45:51.49 Mayor Burns Is that shown on the graph?
02:45:53.14 Joan Cox But,
02:45:53.48 Mayor Burns Thank you.
02:45:53.58 Joan Cox but in fact,
02:45:54.05 Mayor Burns No, sorry. Go ahead.
02:45:54.97 Joan Cox No, that's right.
02:45:55.50 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) No, that's not shown in the graph.
02:45:57.78 Joan Cox But under this in 2020 and 2021,
02:45:58.86 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) I'm excited, man.
02:46:01.53 Joan Cox there would be no rate funded capital expenses.

That's what this chart is saying.

Because there's no, so the green stands for rate funded capital expenses. That's what the green in this chart means.
02:46:15.92 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) Right.
02:46:16.73 Joan Cox but for 2020 and 21, you're showing no rate funded capital expenses during those years.
02:46:22.20 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) You're using the 2014 bond proceeds, the remaining proceeds, and you're spending that on your capital projects in the first two years.
02:46:30.77 Joan Cox And I don't see bond proceeds where those are reflected in this. Right. It's not shown in the chart.
02:46:35.89 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) Right, it's not shown in the chart.
02:46:37.14 Joan Cox Okay.
02:46:38.18 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) This is just impacts to your rates. So since that's coming, that's a source of revenue that is not from rates, that's why that's not shown.
02:46:47.63 Joan Cox So where are the rates going? Because we're raising rates that's generating considerable cash.
02:46:52.39 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) That's generating considerable cash. You're funding your operating costs, you're contributing to reserves that can be spent in later years on capital.
02:46:59.82 Joan Cox you
02:46:59.87 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) Thank you.
02:47:00.00 Joan Cox Thank you.
02:47:00.46 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) Thank you. Thanks.

This slide here shows a cash projection under this 4% scenario.

We're projected to end the current fiscal year with about $3.8 million in reserves. At the end of the five-year period, you'd be at about $1.2 million, which would be appropriate for a utility of this size. We're recommending that the city hold and these recommendations are consistent with the last rate study that you'd hold at least 90 days in an operating reserve so it would be about 540 550,000 by the end of the five year period.

We'd also recommend that you hold 3% in a capital reserve, 3% of net assets, sorry, and that would be about $230,000. And then you're also obligated to hold about $430,000 in a debt reserve for your outstanding debt obligations.
02:47:57.04 Joan Cox And you said that those policies were established in 2015? Right. Are we doing that now? Because I don't recall seeing a sewer debt reserve on our budget.
02:48:00.62 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) Right.

I don't recall seeing
02:48:10.01 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) There is a debt reserve. It's about $350,000 in that reserve right now.

And so right now you're holding an amount above the target, but you have some capital projects to fund, so those funds will be spent over Um, over the next few years. And this cash balance here, the beginning shows the inclusion of the remaining funds from the the bond, the 2015 sewer bond that are going to be spent on the projects.

Some other considerations that we've made in the study are we looked at the distribution of parcels and EDUs by customer class, and there's been a change. The chart on the left-hand side shows the distribution of EDUs by class in 2014 and what the distribution is now. So my firm has been administering the sewer service charges for the past five years and putting them on the tax roll for the city. And so there's been some updates into the customer classifications, and so that's why you see the numbers changing.
02:49:22.06 Mayor Burns And that was a question I had earlier. That's a net gain of approximately 400. Is that just new services on current?

because we haven't had 400 new residences, so that's changes of service on existing residents to have a net gain of 400 EDUs.
02:49:39.66 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) Right, right. So there were, you know, I'm not exactly sure what happened, the details of it over the past five years, but there were some differences in how some of your customers were classified So we have like, in 2014 there were 191 single family attached units and now it's 901. So I think there were some differences in how those parcels were classified in use code. So I think those are primarily your condos.
02:50:06.55 Louis Rafa Thank you.
02:50:06.59 Mayor Burns .
02:50:10.72 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) Yeah. In the area.
02:50:10.76 Mayor Burns Yeah.

area.

But the overall net figure regardless of where they are in the category the net figure went up 400 and that would be suggesting that we had 400 new flushes or something which is we don't have unless that's kind of found new business that what people that weren't getting charged before which would be a great thing because then that's a 100 percent new revenue source because it's a new a new EDU completely.

I just don't know how we got to 400, but I don't know.
02:50:40.30 Joan Cox of the
02:50:40.52 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) Thank you.

Definitely.

I know we built
02:50:43.58 Joan Cox I know that in that time we adopted an amnesty program for ADUs, so we built a bunch of additional units or we or we Thank you.

acknowledged, recognized a bunch of additional units that weren't perhaps separately recognized. We haven't done anything between 200 units in our town. No, it's not 400. It's more like over. 60. No, I think it's over 100. It's over 100, but I agree. It's a mystery. Over 100 new units.
02:50:59.86 Mayor Burns We haven't done anything between 400 units. No, it's not 400.

over.
02:51:04.03 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
02:51:04.06 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) city.
02:51:12.38 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) All right, I have to get into the details and get an answer back to the city after the meeting.

I find it good news, that's what I'm asking.

And then the chart on the right hand side shows the distribution of the percentage of EDUs by class and also water usage. So your single family homes are using a little bit more water on average per EDU since we did the last study.
02:51:40.16 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) This slide here shows what the five-year rate schedule would look like for each of your customer classes. And then the bullet points on the bottom show what the average, what the bill change would be for the average customer in each class. So there is a volumetric component to the sewer bills.

and the bill comparison amounts listed in the bullet points below the table show what the bill is for the average customer in each class.
02:52:10.94 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Can I ask a question on this slide? So for a single family residence, it goes from $546 to 730. So that's a pretty significant increase over the period. Right. But for a single family attached, it goes from 390 to 396, which is,
02:52:24.69 Louis Rafa Thank you.
02:52:24.71 Adrian Brinton THE END OF THE END OF THE
02:52:24.96 Louis Rafa THE FAMILY.
02:52:31.97 Susan Cleveland-Knowles you very small.
02:52:33.87 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) Right. So your single family homes are using using proportionately more water. So you're those the single family attached and the duplexes actually reduce our water consumption over the past few years. And so that's why that that shift is happening.
02:52:33.89 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.

Right.
02:52:56.92 Susan Cleveland-Knowles I mean, maybe this isn't a question for tonight, but that's...

a really dramatic difference that people in single family attached duplexes and multifamily have reduced their usage of water dramatically and people in single family houses haven't I mean that's really surprising just from a Thank you.
02:53:18.88 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) Yeah.
02:53:19.62 Susan Cleveland-Knowles I mean, not related to this, but okay.
02:53:22.12 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) That's what the data shows.
02:53:22.24 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
02:53:22.71 Louis Rafa Thank you.
02:53:22.78 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
02:53:25.66 Mayor Burns especially when you consider that doesn't really include landscape water because it's off season water.
02:53:28.53 Susan Cleveland-Knowles off-season water. I know. I know. It's just, I mean, I feel like we've reduced a lot.
02:53:36.55 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) And then we've also prepared a rate scenario that shows rate increases of 3% per year for the next five years. It's a second alternative for the council to consider. We show the same bullet points below on what the average bill changes are for each customer class over the five year period.

for comparison.
02:54:03.28 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) And then this final slide here on the rates shows what rates would look like if the city fully implemented the pipeline replacement program. You'd be looking at having to increase revenue to 12 to 12.5% per year for the next five years. And so.
02:54:23.69 Joan Cox But that's only a difference of $18 a year for single family bills.
02:54:28.39 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) Thank you.
02:54:28.49 Joan Cox Let's kind of go over that.
02:54:29.64 Mayor Burns Let's go over that number though.
02:54:30.70 Joan Cox Yeah. It's $500. Because
02:54:32.37 Mayor Burns because-
02:54:33.01 Joan Cox Look at the 48.
02:54:34.78 Mayor Burns Excuse me, Joan, just for a second. See the single family number goes from 546 to 675 to 759? That is not averaging $48.73 a year.

Thank you.

it's averaging 100 to 110.
02:54:49.78 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
02:54:49.80 Mayor Burns year.
02:54:50.12 Joan Cox Thank you.

That's a very good point. I'm just looking at the bottom part.
02:54:52.65 Mayor Burns Right.

looked at that, I think that number, the 4873 is Thank you.

Right, is that correct? The 4873 on the single family, the number that our eyes went to first might not be correct.
02:55:09.11 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) We'll double check that.
02:55:12.57 Joan Cox So if you flip back two slides, it's showing 39.42 a year.

For the 4%.
02:55:17.88 Vivian (Public Works staff) Yeah.
02:55:17.90 Mayor Burns the four.
02:55:19.21 Joan Cox and then Where, where, where?
02:55:21.56 Mayor Burns single family bills.
02:55:22.47 Joan Cox For single family and then.

4873 a year but I agree with the mayor at that 4873 doesn't look accurate If it was, I would say we should consider the 12%.
02:55:35.23 Mayor Burns THE END.

But you look at the line number and we're up over that.
02:55:38.50 Joan Cox Thank you.

Yeah, I don't think it's accurate.
02:55:43.67 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) double check that.

Are there any more questions on the rates?

Thank you.
02:55:52.36 Vivian (Public Works staff) Thank you.
02:55:52.78 Adrian Brinton you
02:55:52.85 Vivian (Public Works staff) Thank you.
02:55:52.86 Kim Baylor (NBS consultant) Thank you.
02:55:54.30 Unknown Good catch.
02:55:56.91 Vivian (Public Works staff) Okay, so, and I agree, there's something funny about those numbers. So the numbers in the table above are the true numbers. They're from the rate study and the numbers below are the numbers that we inserted and we made a mistake there, so we'll correct that.
02:56:04.03 Louis Rafa Yeah.
02:56:04.41 Mayor Burns Thank you.
02:56:10.77 Mayor Burns Actually, it's a typo for 98. I'm glad you caught that. It's a four, not a nine. I think that's what it is.
02:56:12.32 Vivian (Public Works staff) I'm glad you caught that.

So the timeline from this point forward follows the timeline established by Proposition 218, and it begins with our discussion tonight. If the council takes action to authorize staff to begin the 45-day comment period, via resolution that's included in your packet then we would mail the notice of public hearing starting tomorrow and we have until Friday, May 3rd.

And then that initiates the 45-day comment period, which would end on June 18th, which is a regularly scheduled council meeting, at which time there would be a hearing. You would hold a hearing and hear protests, if any, and discuss the rates and take action, if any, to adopt the new rates. And if the rates are adopted, then they would be in effect retroactively to July 1st, 2019.
02:57:18.13 Mayor Burns So on the previous, and I know this doesn't fall under your scope, but on the previous meeting, we discussed that SMCCD was going to be last night. Do we know what they agreed upon as far as their?
02:57:31.95 Vivian (Public Works staff) Thank you.

tomorrow.
02:57:36.76 Mayor Burns Okay.
02:57:36.81 Vivian (Public Works staff) May 1st.
02:57:38.13 Mayor Burns Thank you.

They were after us. OK. I was under the pressure there before. So OK. Thanks.
02:57:41.86 Susan Cleveland-Knowles So can I ask a question?
02:57:43.34 Mayor Burns Oh, that's right, we knew what they would be proposing because their agenda was out. Do we know what they're proposing?
02:57:51.43 Adam Politzer Vivian, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that they said first year no increase, next two years 4%, the last two years 3% each.
02:58:02.82 Vivian (Public Works staff) That sounds correct.
02:58:04.01 Adam Politzer 4433. Thank you.
02:58:07.90 Vivian (Public Works staff) I was very much in line with what we're looking at.
02:58:07.91 Susan Cleveland-Knowles and I was...
02:58:09.55 Adam Politzer Thank you.
02:58:11.03 Susan Cleveland-Knowles So can I ask a question on process? So maybe you did too get a job at your last presentation, but I was very excited about the prospect of replacing 3% of our pipes per year.

from a good capital management standpoint. But I do agree that a 12% increase just seems very But given the way these percentages are working out, I'm really interested in kind of looking at a 2.5, I think that's a good question.

2.5% for the amount of pipe replacement. But so if we asked for that information, does that not allow us to start the 45 day Thank you.

clock today. That's correct. Okay.
02:58:56.06 Vivian (Public Works staff) the clock, but I, so with the 2.5% target in mind, What the public comment period is to comment on the rates that are established and posted starting tomorrow.

With those rates, the process does not hold you to repair to only 2% of your system. It provides funding to repair what we believe 2% replacement will cost.

But in the process of establishing what needs to be repaired, we're gonna look at the highest priority issues first.

And looking at the big picture, we can look at whether we can get more pipe repaired for that cost. I mean, we want to do that anyway. We will do that anyway. Yeah. But we'll have even more reason to look at that more carefully, knowing that the city would like to get as much pipe as possible replaced with the resources that you have.
02:59:42.28 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Yeah.
02:59:54.68 Mayor Burns Okay.

What does the take action on June 18th look like? Can we, given public comment, could we adjust this number then or do we have to go back through a new process?
03:00:04.05 Susan Cleveland-Knowles can adjust it down.
03:00:05.87 Mayor Burns just at down.
03:00:06.53 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Yeah.
03:00:12.20 Mayor Burns Any other questions? I'm going to open to public.

you I'm going to put up public comment for this item. Is there any public comment on this item? Chief, nothing? Seeing none.
03:00:24.52 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
03:00:24.55 Susan Cleveland-Knowles See you.
03:00:24.87 Adrian Brinton AND, uh,
03:00:25.21 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
03:00:25.34 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
03:00:25.41 Adrian Brinton .
03:00:26.64 Susan Cleveland-Knowles .
03:00:26.81 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
03:00:26.96 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
03:00:27.76 Mayor Burns Closing public comment.
03:00:29.11 Susan Cleveland-Knowles He's watching the Warriors.
03:00:29.97 Bonnie Walters Thank you.
03:00:30.25 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
03:00:30.34 Mayor Burns He better not be saying anything, don't smile.
03:00:31.99 Bonnie Walters You better not say the score out loud.
03:00:32.47 Unknown not say the school rally.
03:00:33.55 Mayor Burns Thank you.
03:00:33.59 Unknown Yeah.
03:00:33.63 Mayor Burns Yeah.
03:00:34.66 Joan Cox Thank you.
03:00:35.96 Mayor Burns All right.

So who wants to bring an idea forth or kind of some comments on
03:00:47.16 Mayor Burns the numbers we've heard tonight.
03:00:51.06 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Well, I can start. I mean, given what we've heard, given that we can't kind of look at what a slight increase would do to these kind of oddly...

changing numbers, I'm in favor of going out to the public with the 2% replacement strategy with a 4% annual increase that gives us the flexibility. I mean, the 3% doesn't seem to really be getting us to where we need to be, 3% increase.

But it does leave us, if we go out with the 4%, we get a lot of comment that that's not tenable. It gives us the flexibility to go down. So that's what I would like to move forward with tonight, with interest in other people's thoughts.
03:01:40.67 Joan Cox I wholeheartedly agree, and from what we've heard from the city manager, it sounds as though that comports largely with a commensurate strategy that's being proposed by our partner tomorrow evening. So I.

wish that the 12% numbers were accurate. If so, I would say let's do that. But I think the financially prudent approach is the 4%, we're looking at increasing our customers.

the biggest increase for existing customers will be roughly $40 a year, which I think is tenable.
03:02:25.86 Mayor Burns Just nod if you didn't want to say anything. Me too. I'm right with you.

All right.

.
03:02:33.22 Joan Cox All right, then I move. We accept the report from NBS regarding proposed sewer rates and adopt a resolution of the City Council of the City of Sausalito stating its intention to establish a sanitary sewer fee effective for fiscal years 2019.

20 through 2023 to 24 and set a public hearing for June 18, 2019.

Thank you.
03:02:56.21 Susan Cleveland-Knowles THE FAMILY.
03:02:56.38 Joan Cox THE END OF
03:02:57.56 Mayor Burns All in favor? Aye. That passes 4-0.
03:02:58.45 Joan Cox Bye.
03:03:03.99 Mayor Burns All right. Thank you for staying around so long and hearing all of what's going on in our city. You can come back to other meetings if you don't have something on the agenda, keep up on all the exciting things.
03:03:15.76 Susan Cleveland-Knowles So,
03:03:17.50 Mayor Burns Thank you.
03:03:17.82 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Mr. Mayor, can I just make a suggestion?

Thank you.

So we're way behind on time. We have what looks like several members of the public here who I believe are here on our park issue.

And I don't know if we want to switch our items. Sorry, I- If it's okay with our- With apologies to Ms. Carter.
03:03:34.17 Joan Cox Bye.

Sorry, I- If it's okay with our- Administrative Services Director is fine with me. Is that okay with you, Adam?
03:03:42.44 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Unless the members of the public are also interested in speaking on the budget, show us a show of hands if you're also interested. If you're also here and interested in the budget and would like to hear the budget, would you please raise your hands?
03:03:59.03 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay, so we have two. And who's here to talk?

He's interested in both. All right, so if you're going to turn.
03:04:02.73 Unknown interest.
03:04:06.15 Mayor Burns if you're Thank you.

I'm going to turn.

Thank you.
03:04:09.85 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay, so that's fine too, I just thought.

It's really late.
03:04:16.23 Adam Politzer We may just need to take a brief break because I know that Lauren and Mike are
03:04:22.88 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Oh, okay, well, let's go ahead with, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to throw a wrench in things.
03:04:27.58 Joan Cox I'm just concerned the budget may be a more lengthy conversation.
03:04:30.25 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Yeah.

Me too.
03:04:37.07 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Oh, okay. Sorry.
03:04:39.35 Mayor Burns Let's go with the mid-year budget review. Mid-year review and adoption of resolution to adjust the budget.
03:04:47.67 Lisa Chilino Okay.
03:05:05.37 Yulia Carter Good evening.

I'm Yulia Carter, your Assistant City Manager, Administrative Services Director. And the item before you tonight is fiscal year 18-19, mid-year budget review.
03:05:21.84 Yulia Carter So mid-year budget review is the industry standard. The purpose of the mid-year budget is to conduct year-to-date revenues and expenditures, It allows to review assumptions that were made before the budget.

adoption cycle and make necessary adjustments to reflect any changes in the serious economic, political, and business conditions.

Well, of course, another purpose of this mid-year is to update Council on the status of fiscal year 18-19 revenues and expenditures.

And any proposed adjustments.

And revised fund balances.

And finally, we will use this work as a segue to the new budget process.

We will take all the mid year work that we've done to Develop base assumptions for the new budget cycle for the fiscal year 19.

20.

and bring it back to you in May at the study session.

So today's agenda will include today we will talk about Throughout this presentation we will talk about general fund revenues and expenditures.

And you request the changes and fund balances.

And we will discuss also other funds.

And revenues expenditures and requested changes within the other funds, non-general funds.

And again, we will talk a little bit about preparation for the upcoming.

budget cycle, which there is a typo there, it should be 19-20.
03:07:00.15 Yulia Carter So before we dive into the analysis, I just wanted to spend a couple minutes to talk about the methodology that we used for the mid-year budget adjustment.

As you know, we're a little bit late in the process, so typically mid year review would be brought to you in March.

But as you know, that due to the transition we had a little bit of a backlog, so we brought Kafka to you Council meetings.

We took all the work, all the fund balances, all the information from CAFRA and build it into the mid-year budget.

Board.

And incorporated in the budget in the current fiscal year.

So because of this time, and we addressed the mid-year a little bit differently this year.

We are not bringing you any new requests, any new CIP projects.

We only made necessary adjustments to the budget.

and We approach this process in the three step process.

So step number one, we discovered during the preparation of this report, we discovered that there were some discrepancies.

between the budget resolution that the council approved, during the pandemic.

budget adoption.

And the actual recommended budget that was recommended and discussed by you.

So as we were going through these discrepancies, We identified well, all of them, and listed them in attachment number two to your report.

And so this step, step number one, pretty much ties your approved budget to the actual resolution that was approved and signed and the numbers that were in the resolution.
03:08:50.38 Joan Cox question.
03:08:50.72 Adrian Brinton Yeah.
03:08:50.95 Joan Cox Thank you.

Since if there were anomalies between the budget resolution, and the budget direction given by the council.

Do we need to enact a new budget resolution?
03:09:02.06 Yulia Carter Well, it's already incorporated in the resolution that this brought forward to you.

No.
03:09:07.03 Joan Cox We're not going to go back and correct the old.
03:09:08.03 Yulia Carter Correct the old. It's part of this. That's why we are going into three different buckets. So the step number one is to tie it to the budget resolution. Then step number two, as we go to step number two, So,
03:09:22.22 Jill Hoffman I have a follow-up question on that.
03:09:23.74 Yulia Carter Yeah, of course.
03:09:24.65 Jill Hoffman So if we didn't know what we were voting on before, then how was that a valid budget?

Because we, I mean there's a discrepancy here of $8 million.

that we didn't know that we were voting on last year so to me that seems to be that.

that wasn't a valid budget.
03:09:44.41 Yulia Carter If I...

May comment on this, I think you did know what you voted on.

So what I'm arguing that there were certain numbers were not recorded properly.

in the resolution.
03:09:55.57 Joan Cox Okay.

But the direction is consistent with what we document.
03:09:57.32 Yulia Carter the direction was.
03:10:01.67 Yulia Carter What you approved in the recommendation, in the proposed budget.
03:10:02.03 Jill Hoffman Okay.

Right, so we voted on a budget last year, if we're going to go down this rabbit hole.

We were on a budget last year of $35 million.

And now you're asking us, you're saying that was wrong, that that was not the actual budget that we voted on. That there are, and I know we've gotten some information.

two days on Saturday.

about where these funds came from or where they're going and you want us to move them around and I don't really, It's so complicated.

I'm going to have trouble even asking you follow up questions tonight, but I've tried to understand it and Have no confidence is what I'm saying.

I have no confidence in this budget that we're being presented with this midyear budget, nor the budget that we voted on last year.

Because you're increasing the budget.

by $8 million, 22%. But this is the budget that we voted on last year.

So $44 million.

you know.

I don't know.

How?

I don't know how we're supposed to be able to evaluate that.

in two and a half days.

And we got the PowerPoint tonight at 530.

So,
03:11:22.37 Mayor Burns So I asked your question, I know you have a lot to say here, and I want you to say it all. But let's just ask the question so she can answer them effectively.
03:11:29.58 Jill Hoffman I asked the question, she didn't respond. She didn't give me an answer.
03:11:34.18 Mayor Burns So what's the question and give her a second to respond.
03:11:36.38 Jill Hoffman Well, if I had a court reporter here, I'd have the court reporter read back my question, but I don't have one. I mean, we don't have a court reporter here.
03:11:47.51 Jill Hoffman I guess as we go through this, I guess we'll just have to ask questions as we go. But I don't understand how the budget that we voted on last year is a valid budget or that vote.

was you know, was an effective vote.

I mean, I just don't know how you can say that.

We spent months, weeks, listening to the budget when Ray was here.

Ray said there's a lot of risk built into this budget, but we have it so finely you know, tuned that, you know, We'll vote for it, but...

We'll see how it goes.

comments from Ray.

And now we find out that what we voted on, I don't know what it was. I mean, I just don't know.
03:12:34.55 Unknown I just don't know.

Thank you.
03:12:35.34 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
03:12:35.37 Unknown Thank you.
03:12:35.39 Jill Hoffman So what or where are we at?
03:12:35.73 Unknown What or where we were.
03:12:37.06 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.

Thank you.
03:12:37.36 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
03:12:37.38 Susan Cleveland-Knowles A question?
03:12:37.79 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
03:12:37.97 Susan Cleveland-Knowles to ask a question.
03:12:38.71 Unknown Oh, that's...
03:12:38.73 Jill Hoffman .
03:12:38.92 Susan Cleveland-Knowles You can do this probably.
03:12:39.03 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
03:12:39.14 Unknown to do.
03:12:39.37 Jill Hoffman to see.
03:12:39.44 Unknown probably.
03:12:39.71 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
03:12:39.81 Unknown I don't know.
03:12:39.83 Jill Hoffman Bye.
03:12:39.88 Susan Cleveland-Knowles This is just a procedural question.
03:12:40.08 Unknown Thank you.
03:12:40.18 Jill Hoffman Bye.
03:12:40.20 Unknown Thank you.
03:12:40.22 Jill Hoffman I WANT TO SHOW YOU.
03:12:42.44 Susan Cleveland-Knowles So I also, With great respect to you, I think you had a heavy lift here. I found this very confusing. And we have gotten new information recently. Is there a time?

pressure for tonight for this? I mean, it's past 10. This is incredibly complicated.

Council member Hoffman has a lot of concerns. I mean, I'm just wondering if we should all We have time to meet with Yulia, work our way through this in more detail. We'll have council member with you here at our next meeting.

Is there?

I mean, as I understand this, this is kind of a mid-year check in and then kind of the groundwork and the framework for starting our budget discussion, a real, the next one.

So I feel like we should all feel comfortable and confident with these numbers and the hard work that you've been going through. So I guess that's just my procedural question because it sounds like this is going to be a...

We all have a lot of questions.
03:13:49.40 Adam Politzer We all have a lot of questions. If I can just respond to that, I think to respect to Julia and her team.

I think you let her go through the presentation.

I think Councilmember Hoffman had asked some questions.

you that we responded to.

but it would be an opportunity if there are additional questions you know, for us to meet with any of the council members But the challenge is, the challenge if we don't at least go through the presentation, which I think let the presentation go through so you can hear the information and understand at least the the baseline.

What we can't delay is by June 30th, we have to approve the second year of our two-year budget.

And what I think you folks will all agree upon at the end of this is that the numbers that we have from the CAFRA that are now confirmed based on the work that the finance team has put into
03:14:36.99 Louis Rafa Thank you.
03:14:52.99 Adam Politzer of bringing this information forward that's in front of you.

those numbers aren't going to change.

I'm not sure.

And if there are questions about why that money is in capital projects, or in sewers.

Warren Parks.

or roads, whatever it is, we can have that discussion during the two year budget discussion.

But I want to make sure that you understand that the cleanup work which is attachment two that shows how everything has changed.

it's really this inner transfers that are going on.

fleeting of money.

We took what the council approved Um, but did not get approved and tied together through resolution, nor Did the changes occur when we brought other items to the council over the year, this past ten months, where we had made changes, including changes to positions, since such as Julia's position going from administrative services director to assistant city manager, administrative services director, hiring the senior accountant, which changed a position within the organization and upgraded that. Those were all council actions.

So the transfer of the money was in certain accounts.

but never got transferred to when we approved the CIP project It may have been sitting in one account, and didn't get transferred over to the other.

It's not as the money didn't exist, money was sitting in the wrong account, because from July to December.

We didn't have an administrative services director, doing those tasks. And that's what Yulia had to come in and clean up. And that's part of what
03:16:36.53 Mayor Burns Yeah.

Yeah, so I think the question is did we lose or gain $8 million? No. Or did we have it? No, and I was going to touch base on this.
03:16:37.66 Adam Politzer Yeah.
03:16:38.05 Unknown Thank you.
03:16:38.09 Adam Politzer Thank you.
03:16:41.14 Unknown No.

No, and I was going to touch base on this during the presentation. So just to give you an example, again, being- Okay, let me follow up.
03:16:44.28 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
03:16:47.79 Jill Hoffman Okay, let me follow up on that question.
03:16:49.54 Unknown Yeah.
03:16:49.61 Jill Hoffman If you don't mind.
03:16:50.56 Unknown I'm not going to go.
03:16:51.47 Jill Hoffman So, I understand that we're moving money around between one fund to the other.

but, to your point, Joe, what we did last year when we approved the budget, we knew we were moving money out of some of the funds into different areas. And we did that very Cautiously.

And vary with a lot of explanation about why we would draw down on certain funds. Because that has to do with our fiscal stability as a city that we vary in the last ten years, spent a lot of time building those funds up.

And so now what it looks like to me is that more 22% more movement out of those funds has occurred.
03:17:39.06 Adrian Brinton Well,
03:17:39.38 Jill Hoffman And so, but.

This was not something that we voted on.

Nor were we presented with this. And we were talking about a high risk budget last year of 35 million. It wasn't a high risk, it was a super high risk budget, apparently of 44 million.
03:17:51.59 Mary Wagner Thank you.
03:17:51.63 Joan Cox Apparently.
03:17:51.95 Mary Wagner Yeah.
03:17:53.84 Jill Hoffman But you're not letting her feel.
03:17:54.16 Joan Cox So- That's not a question and you're not letting-
03:17:56.64 Jill Hoffman and you're not letting it?

Thank you.
03:17:57.82 Joan Cox Yeah.
03:17:58.29 Jill Hoffman Well, I think that's the point.

But what if we listen to her presentation?
03:18:01.09 Joan Cox What if we listen to her presentation?

Okay.

Because I did meet with her for an hour this morning, and I am very now clear on all of the questions that you asked in your email on Saturday.

So, and I agree with Council Member, or Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles, that it would be helpful for every council member to have an opportunity to meet with her. But I believe, I've reviewed this PowerPoint, I believe this PowerPoint answers some of the issues that you're raising.
03:18:28.13 Mayor Burns I'm going to stop all comments right now and ask, if you have a direct question for Julia, please ask it. If you don't have a direct question, let her finish her presentation. Any direct questions specifically to, thanks. Julia, please continue.
03:18:41.05 Yulia Carter Thank you, and before I jump back to the slide, I just want to say that being new with the city, the reviewed, my staff and myself reviewed all the actions, all the discussions, and the PowerPoint presentation for the proposed and approved budget.

So, I wanted to make sure that the attachment too that we are bringing forward is in line with this council strategic vision, because that's part of my duties and obligations to the city.

So we spent quite a bit of time doing this. And we tried our best to address all the adjustments that we brought forward with the explanation to this. And just to answer your question, I just want to give one example.

So you discussed at length additional contribution to the pension trust.

It was 775,000.

Saundan.

from general fund balance.

one.

This adjustment wasn't included in the resolution. And just to give you an example of how you trace this money, this particular movement of the funds will appear three times.

into this 8 million and 6 million adjustments.

So first time it will appear as expense to general funds.

Second time at Villa Pera Sera Avenue, employee benefit fund.

And then we will count it again as expense to employee benefit funds.

So the astronomical numbers that you're looking at, Counting certain adjustments three times.

And I was going to address it as part of the PowerPoint.
03:20:11.62 Joan Cox But that 775 is something we specifically directed be done in our budget discussions last year.
03:20:15.92 Yulia Carter All right, then that's why I'm using it.
03:20:17.04 Jill Hoffman our budget
03:20:21.90 Joan Cox that we already gave direction for that.
03:20:23.47 Jill Hoffman FOR THAT.

So, Well, okay, so here's a question. So we gave direction for that to happen. We voted on a budget, but that was not included in the budget.
03:20:32.60 Yulia Carter missed in the resolution.
03:20:34.00 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
03:20:34.12 Yulia Carter Thank you.
03:20:34.15 Jill Hoffman Thank you.

So that's just one instance.
03:20:36.16 Mayor Burns where it got missed in a resolution, not got taken out of a budget.
03:20:39.40 Joan Cox Right. It was still there, the money is there. She's just moving the money as we directed. But that's only 770.
03:20:39.94 Mayor Burns It's still there, the money is there.

Thank you.
03:20:44.21 Jill Hoffman I can actually-
03:20:44.56 Mayor Burns last year.
03:20:45.19 Jill Hoffman .
03:20:46.54 Mayor Burns times three because it's three times, so it's 2.1.
03:20:46.55 Yulia Carter Thank you.
03:20:47.45 Joan Cox Okay.
03:20:47.82 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
03:20:47.84 Yulia Carter THE END OF THE END OF THE
03:20:48.46 Jill Hoffman But that's only 770,000 or is that?
03:20:51.72 Yulia Carter Yeah, there is more. There is whole attachment number two of items in this step one, in this bucket, all the adjustments.

I just use it as an example of what kind of adjustments we're talking about.
03:21:02.55 Jill Hoffman Okay, so that's a good example of,
03:21:07.43 Mayor Burns Yeah, that's a good example of that's $2.1 million.

because you moved 730.
03:21:10.42 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
03:21:10.43 Yulia Carter as you move.
03:21:10.97 Unknown In the total.
03:21:12.03 Mayor Burns Thank you.

700 three times. Right. Okay, so we're a quarter of the way there with one easy question.
03:21:12.31 Unknown 700 three times.
03:21:17.42 Unknown Okay.
03:21:21.06 Yulia Carter Well, there is no easy way of doing this, unfortunately. How can you- I have to go by the budget resolution that was adopted by the council.
03:21:23.44 Unknown How can you? I have to go.
03:21:28.28 Yulia Carter So that's why we decided that the step number one would be to tie it to the resolution And merge this council direction and what the numbers should look like.

We didn't, well you can see in attachment two, we didn't make up any additional directions. If I'm wrong, if our assumptions are wrong, please let me know because we will be happy to remove it all, But we triple checked it to make sure that we follow the council direction based on the review of the budget adoption.
03:22:03.79 Yulia Carter And if I may continue. Yes, please.
03:22:05.23 Unknown Yes, please.

What's wrong?
03:22:06.69 Yulia Carter So that was the step number one, step number two, We included all the city council previously approved budget amendments.

So as you know, every council meeting staff brings a agenda to you for approval.

And consideration and approval.

And some of these items may require amendments to the original project.

So during the mid year process, we went back.

all the way to July meeting.

reviewed all agenda items and incorporated all the budget amendments year to date, including this current meeting.

which we will have to adjust now because of the action that you took, we assume that you will approve general plan I'm not sure.

additional expense and now we will have to remove it.

and table it to the next meeting.

So we included all these adjustments.

And this adjustments are described in attachment number three. So you can see it again, fund by fund, what you approve throughout the year.

and we, again, counted.

towards the adjustments.

And that's our step number two.

And finally, step number three.

We identified some additional revenues and expenditures.

to the budget that we ask you to approve tonight.

And just as a side note, for this bucket, bucket number three.

We wanted to bring you only material changes. So we used the specific methodology. We looked at the projections since we're so late in the process. We only have two months leave in this current fiscal year.

So again, we are not bringing you anything new, we just did projections for the year.

and identified all the variances from the projected budget to the.

adapted that exceed 5% and 10,000.

So we want to make sure that we bring you only material, structural changes.

And this is our step number three.

So from Staffs Prospective.

Items identified in bucket number three are the only ones you haven't seen before.

And we will go over this in the presentation.
03:24:21.52 Yulia Carter So then we combined all of this together, all these three.

areas of adjustments, and that's how the numbers shake up. And you already commented on this. So six million in revenue projections, eight in- in appropriations, but again, we try to separate it so you can see the transfers portion from the actual adjustments.
03:24:44.66 Joan Cox So as an example, the Interfund transfers is four million of the six million is delta in revenue projections, and inter-fund transfers is $4 million of the $8 million in appropriations.
03:24:59.71 Yulia Carter Right, and the reason why these numbers are a little bit different, well, ideally they should match. It should be a wash, but they're a little bit different because we found two one-sided transfers that we had to fix. And that was one of the clean up that we had to do.
03:25:18.22 Yulia Carter So this slide right here kind of gives you a big picture view of the city's performances.

for fiscal year 18-19 across all funds citywide.

So again, it's the same numbers just in the graph chart. So you can see blue column represents the adopted budget as per resolution, again.

And the green column represents the adjustments or revised budget that we are bringing forward today.

and again to reiterate the point.

We separated transfers from the actual adjustments and you can see this bottom.

line of the box in the middle.

This is the money that we are just moving around.
03:26:07.75 Yulia Carter Now if you talk about general fund revenues, you can see take a closer look at the general fund revenues, we can see that There are two major areas of adjustments.

The TOT taxes going up about the.

well 84,000 or about 5% And that's the city's third largest revenue category.

And it's really good news, but we all know it's due to increase in the rate that went into effect in January.

And we now starting to see the effect of this. And the second area of adjustment is in charges for services.

This increase of almost 200,000 is due to some increase in building and planning fees. Additional revenues collected by police department for vehicle release and municipal code fines and citations.

Again, thank you to PD.

And some additional revenues in MLK play land.

and the original and budgeted Art festival reimbursements that has a certain expense on the appropriation side, which wasn't included in the original budget.
03:27:26.15 Jill Hoffman I'm sorry, what was that about the art fund?

Art festival reimbursement?
03:27:30.56 Yulia Carter So it'd be a- Where's that?

We, well, maybe you can help me with this because it's
03:27:38.45 Jill Hoffman I mean, is that listed somewhere in any of our materials? I didn't say anything about art festival anywhere.
03:27:41.05 Yulia Carter I didn't say anything about it.

It's a, so for the Arts Festival, we get some reimbursement from So it's hard to get.
03:27:49.90 Adam Politzer So it's part of the agreement with the art festival that they pay for police services.

They pay a fortune.
03:27:56.27 Yulia Carter Portion of police services, portion of-
03:27:57.07 Adam Politzer Thank you.

for their event.
03:28:00.76 Yulia Carter And this is upsetting revenue and expenditures. So we added it to the revenues and to the expenditures. So at the end of the day, it's pretty much a wash.
03:28:14.33 Yulia Carter So I can skip the slide because we just went over there.
03:28:17.23 Jill Hoffman Is there some place in our materials where these things are set forth that we're talking about?
03:28:22.97 Unknown Thank you.
03:28:23.02 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
03:28:23.73 Yulia Carter It's in the staff report.
03:28:26.09 Unknown It doesn't specifically call out.

No, it's not in the staff report.
03:28:30.11 Yulia Carter It's mentioned as a bullet point.

in the stock report, I'm pretty sure.
03:28:34.92 Jill Hoffman Oh.

Mm-hmm.
03:28:36.93 Yulia Carter So what we did, we included previously approved attachments in the attachments.

And all the new items are in the body of the staff report.

and on the powerpoint presentation if you need additional information on the art festival i'll be happy to make this comment it's not just
03:28:52.11 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
03:28:52.13 Adam Politzer Let me just comment on the- It's not just, no, it's not, okay. I want to comment on the art festival just because that was the item that draw your question. As you recall, we brought the extension
03:28:53.40 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
03:28:53.50 Yulia Carter Yeah.
03:28:53.51 Jill Hoffman THE FAMILY.
03:28:53.60 Yulia Carter I know.
03:28:53.68 Jill Hoffman Yeah.
03:28:53.70 Yulia Carter It's not...
03:28:54.24 Jill Hoffman Okay.
03:28:55.49 Yulia Carter Okay.
03:28:59.56 Jill Hoffman Okay.
03:29:00.30 Louis Rafa I'm not sure.
03:29:03.30 Adam Politzer an amendment to the art festival lease.

a couple months ago.

which also laid out the terms of of that agreement, which also included what the art festival paid for last year's use of the park and and then all the reimbursements in terms of staff and replacements of fences.

that's an example of an item that came before the council that was amended and changed and now it's captured in the revised budget
03:29:32.12 Mayor Burns And this isn't a new process to this year. Isn't the mid year budget process this very thing that we do halfway through the year is to make the changes? It doesn't invalidate the decision we made in June. It just halfway through the year says let's take a look at our budget, right? That's what we're doing today on these numbers. Now we had some numbers put in the wrong pockets and we're changing those around, but this discussion now is,
03:29:35.09 Adam Politzer Thank you.
03:29:35.20 Lisa Chilino This isn't a new process to
03:29:40.43 Louis Rafa Thank you.
03:29:40.44 Lisa Chilino To reconcile.
03:29:41.20 Louis Rafa to the next episode.
03:29:53.27 Louis Rafa And these.
03:30:00.34 Mayor Burns We're adjusting our budget.

based on the information we've had. Not necessarily.
03:30:03.21 Adam Politzer It's not necessarily in the wrong bucket. It was in that bucket, it never got transferred.

So it was always in the bucket, as Councilmember Hoffman said, we made very careful decisions on taking money out of a bucket and putting it into the bucket to make sure it covers those expenses and that's all that we're doing right now is moving that money from that to the right bucket to cover the expenses for those capital projects. Again, if it was sewer related, It was park related.

if it was road related, whatever those Those buckets were out of the reserves.

like, you know, as we also made decisions to use reserves because we had exceeded our policy of the level of reserves we were going to maintain.
03:30:46.49 Mayor Burns And taking all those elements out and looking at the rest of these adjustments, do they seem to be higher, abnormally higher than other adjustments we made in other mid years in the past few years? Because I remember having some things brought When I was on park, that was a completely different budget item, so we made a mid year budget adjustment. Are these adjustments out of line? If you take all those, resolution changes out.
03:31:11.59 Yulia Carter Well, as I mentioned before, so we are not bringing you intentionally, we are not bringing you any new items. Normal process would include that.
03:31:19.21 Adrian Brinton Mm-hmm.
03:31:19.53 Yulia Carter So at mid-year, in beginning of March or end of April, we will bring you projections for the year.

some analysis of revenues and expenditures, and some new asks. Because the departments would have some needs, depending on whatever is happening in the
03:31:33.22 Adrian Brinton Right, right.
03:31:33.88 Unknown Thank you.
03:31:33.90 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
03:31:37.32 Yulia Carter in the operational world.

But we intentionally took it out because we are so late in the process right now. We want to table any new asks, any new CIP projects for the budget discussion.
03:31:46.48 Unknown I'm not sure.
03:31:46.85 Louis Rafa you
03:31:49.89 Yulia Carter So these are only necessary adjustments that would create a base for the new budget.

So we want to do cleanup.

We want to adjust the budget how it was supposed to be.

And, Okay. Plus some additional performance based adjustments. And go into the new budget cycle with the new policy decisions. That's what we're planning to bring to you.
03:32:03.61 Adrian Brinton Okay.
03:32:03.97 Louis Rafa THE FAMILY.
03:32:11.95 Mayor Burns So, okay, and we don't have a quantitative number, but just looking at department reports and totals, our revenue doesn't seem to be off drastically, nor does our expenditures seem to be off drastically to what we had planned.
03:32:21.08 Yulia Carter off.

And it's actually pretty good news on the general fund. I have some slides to show later on.
03:32:26.21 Mayor Burns Thanks.

They probably don't.

Thank you.
03:32:30.78 Yulia Carter Okay, so now if you look at the general fund expenditures again.

The numbers, the total increase represents 2.5% of million in adjustments, but most of this increases you've seen one way or another in attachment two.

attachment three, and I will combine them for the purpose of the presentation together because that was previously approved by council.

what you haven't seen.

is this list right here.

And this list we are asking you to approve tonight.

based on the performance.

And based on the projections, the rest of the year.

And you can see some of these items Oh.

Well, include professional services mostly in admin and public works engineering departments.

That's about 169,000.

Some increase in the perising expenditures, well roughly 200,000. And that covers some merchant banking fees, postage, increase in animal control.

and water utility rates that either were under budgeted originally or Well...

Water rates are just going up.

The merchant banking fees, for example, were excluded from the budget. They were not there. So it doesn't mean that we don't have this expense, we already accumulated this expense.

And the next item is Uh...

45,000 increase in maintenance and repair budget, that's mostly due to some of the Well, not exactly capital, but the remodeling in the admin services department when the wall was removed from my understanding. And again, that already occurred.

and the Oh, and my favorite one, so our contract with Marine IT, that is ongoing contract.

Somehow you will see it in the budget.

So we had to restore it back.

and put it back in the budget because we've clearly have been using the help and services throughout the year.
03:34:40.18 Yulia Carter And the final item on the list is additional transfer of 120,000 to workers compensation.

and we will talk about it a little bit later.

as a policy decision matter.

This additional transfer would cover actual expense of the cost of workers compensation for the year. And you may have noticed that workers compensation fund has some negative balance right now attached and the reason for this because general fund has not been finding the actual expenses. So we've been running deficits for several years. But again, we'll talk about it when we talk about fund balances.
03:35:18.97 Mayor Burns Are there more to that?

Are there any more to these?
03:35:23.82 Yulia Carter Those are adjustments to general funding.
03:35:27.29 Mayor Burns Those don't total the 790, so it's their mark.
03:35:29.03 Yulia Carter Yes, thank you for picking up on this. So I intentionally did not put 152,000 on this list because we found, I included in the staff reports.

There were several line items in the budget.

that was rolled into the resolution that had negative appropriation in the expense.

we had to restore it and treat it as an error. So that was 152,000. I included in the staff adjustment section of staff report, but didn't put it on the list here because it's there is no other way of treating it as an error. So what the intent behind it is.

was kind of relevant at this point because it shouldn't be negative.
03:36:06.51 Joan Cox I don't understand how you had a negative appropriation of $152,000.
03:36:13.13 Yulia Carter So the way the budget is presented in the general ledger.

It's a list of line items. So you have line item for office supply, for professional services, etc., etc., etc.

So there were several line items that Shoot negative.

in the expenditures.

I don't know, maybe it was an error. There is no other way of treating it.

other than the net.

We had to restore it better.
03:36:40.89 Joan Cox Okay, $152,000.

I mean,
03:36:46.49 Yulia Carter But again, remember this was rolled into the resolution that we had to undo and make sure that we identified the whole list of discrepancies.
03:36:56.33 Joan Cox But what you're saying is that various departments spent more than what was in their budget. And we now have to the tune of $152,000.

you're not providing us an explanation like they went they went they spent too much on It's on office supplies, coffee, it's just,
03:37:15.43 Yulia Carter Coffee.

No, no, no, what I mean that the budget, the line item for the budget, had negative number.

So it showed as a revenue in the expense.

That's what I mean.

It's not the actual performance of departments. It's an error in the actual budget allocation.
03:37:37.70 Joan Cox So when somebody took our resolution and spread it out amongst the various departments, they had arithmetic or accounting errors in the way that they spread it out.
03:37:45.23 Yulia Carter So the 152,000 was the mathematical error. So it showed in the expense account, it showed the revenue.

So that's why I didn't include it here, because it's not an adjustment in expenditures.
03:38:03.17 Joan Cox One, two, three, yeah, page one.
03:38:05.34 Yulia Carter for.
03:38:05.53 Joan Cox Thank you.
03:38:09.95 Yulia Carter May I deliver some good news?

Thank you.
03:38:16.18 Yulia Carter So, The fiscal year, 1819 was adopted as a balanced budget.

What it means that the operating expenditures did not exceed operating revenues.

Well, after completion of the mid-year analysis, we are pleased to report that the revised fiscal year, 18-19, continues to be on track.

And should the council approve all the amendments presented to you tonight, the revised budget, general fund budget.

will have 17.4 million in revenues and 17.1 in expenditures, and that generates the structural surplus.

that you can see in green line, third line in the table.

But again, you can see the next line shows some capital, and actually, well, it should be capital and one time transfers out that we took out of this equation. Because we don't want to double count one time expenditures.

investments in the infrastructure or the same transfer to employee pension benefit fund for these calculations, because it's one time, and it's meant to be at one time.

But again, if you put it back into equation, you can see that net change to the general fund balance is about 1.6 million, which is again consistent with what you intended to do at the beginning of the fiscal year because you did fund some of the projects Knopper Street, Gordon Street, Stone Rain, and et cetera, et cetera, all on the list in attachment two, that were meant to be paid out of general fund balance.

And that's what's included in here.
03:39:51.62 Joan Cox So when we approved our budget last year, we actually were approving a budget that was not fully funded, we were depending on measures L and M.

to fund a portion of that budget. And so those predictions came true and we actually ended up at mid year with 321,000 in surplus.
03:40:17.16 Yulia Carter Right, so that's, again, that's positive news that we're still balanced, we're still on track.

Thank you.
03:40:22.86 Joan Cox Maybe you could have started with this slide.
03:40:22.99 Yulia Carter You could have started.
03:40:28.60 Unknown I'll come back to this too. I'll finish with that as well.
03:40:33.32 Yulia Carter Huh?
03:40:37.30 Yulia Carter And again, if you look at the estimated revised fund balances, just to conclude the analysis of general fund, we can take a look at this again and You can see the total general fund balance.

Um...

Yes.

9.3 million and Right there in the red line below, you can see total designations. As you know, council previously adopted the policy to commit 15% of operating expenditures as a contingency reserve.

So that remains unchanged for the mid years of the owned with this policy.

And after taking into account all these committed reserves, The city is still projecting a healthy, unassigned, general fund balance of about $3 million right here.

And the total fund balance of 9.3 million 9.3 million is about 55% of operating expenditures of general fund. Again, both figures represent pretty healthy condition of the city. So that's very positive news again.
03:41:50.17 Mayor Burns but not as positive as we expected.

No, it's actually better than you expected.
03:41:53.11 Yulia Carter No, it's actually better than you expected. Better than we expected. Significantly better than you expected.
03:42:00.73 Unknown What did we expect in a fund balance?

when we adopted our budget.
03:42:08.28 Yulia Carter Well...

You actually have a little bit of time.
03:42:11.79 Joan Cox We were down to near zero on our undesignated fund balance at the time we adopted our budget.

We had everything that we needed in our contingency and our reserves. But we took 775,000 from our one million surplus and put it into our pension.
03:42:28.39 Unknown Right.
03:42:29.56 Joan Cox So we were down to a very low number in our undesignated fund balance at the time we adopted our budget.
03:42:36.07 Yulia Carter And my argument that you actually have a little bit more money than you thought you had because the policy states 15% of operating expenditures. What I noticed in the adopted budget, that 15% was applied to total general fund expenditures, including the capital transfers, including all the one-time costs. And that's why your fund balance was a little bit lower than expected.

I, find the place.

stick to the policies, so I applied it to the operating expenditures and restated the history below.

two steps.

built behind in adopted budget and actual fiscal year 1718.
03:43:19.27 Adam Politzer Julie, can I just add, to not get lost in all of this, also when you look at what we've accomplished in the year in terms of we're actually spending money, on capital projects.

when I inherit it the budget back in 2007, We hadn't done any capital projects and we shared this at Jonathan Goldman's retirement party that the seven years prior to Jonathan Goldman, the city had spent $3 million in capital projects.

We're...

in the seven years he was here for 10, but the seven Years of real doing work. We were closer to 50 million dollars, you know going forward So it's it's not only have we built our reserves up so they're healthy and
03:43:54.47 Louis Rafa Thank you.
03:43:59.91 Adam Politzer And not only have we addressed some of the really challenging issues, but we have been actually able to continue to provide a high level of service with a library that's open seven days a week, a park and rec department that offers special events that I don't think you see in any other community, a police department that keeps our city safe at the same level of staffing that we had at least going back down to 2014.
03:44:17.83 Louis Rafa that I don't
03:44:29.64 Adam Politzer roughly 72 employees.

But I just think that it's important that it is good news And when you look at what we've been spending the money on, we've been able to accomplish significant and continue to have healthy fund. And I agree with all that.
03:44:45.35 Mayor Burns I agree with all that. I was just comparing what we adopted at the middle column to what we revised it to on the right column. As far as the undesignated fund balance, it looks smaller to me now than it was when we adopted it. That's just my eyesight. But I'm not taking all that consideration. I'm just saying looking at that chart, that number looks smaller.
03:44:60.00 Yulia Carter Thank you.

But,
03:45:04.99 Yulia Carter But again, keep in mind that the adopted budget did not include any of the items, capital items that you approve.

Again, there is no other way of treating it as a student.
03:45:13.77 Joan Cox In other words, our direction was not reflected in the resolution.
03:45:16.50 Yulia Carter Right, it was not reflected in the resolution. But I have to go by what is in the resolution in order to change it and tie it to your policy direction.

So this number is a little bit misleading and hopefully this is the last time we're actually talking about it at this level.
03:45:32.63 Unknown Exactly.
03:45:34.66 Yulia Carter But there is no other way around it. No, I get it. Because we have the resolution that we have to use as a starting point.
03:45:36.58 Louis Rafa Because we have
03:45:43.53 Yulia Carter But what Adam just said would be a good segue to actually talk about other funds and all the investments that we've done to the city infrastructure.

So just a couple words on the status of other funds. Revenues, you can see in some of this increase again.

Includes interfund transfers between funds and mostly COP and the CIP program related expenditures.

Most of them again in attachments two and three.

what is not in those attachments, what you haven't technically approved yet, is on this slide right here.

and the, Again, good news here as well, so again, thanks to our the fabulous police department, we are showing some of the increase in parking revenues.

We are showing also increase in Gas tax revenues, about 107,000 due to increase in gas prices and actual receipts from the states that we already received. And we will put this money in good use for improvements as a budget discussion again when we bring it to you to to the new budget cycle.

We have, in the same way, we have increase in the county measure A. Again, this money will be used for capital.

and Well, a couple of adjustments that I added as well, because the interest allocation or Zero waste grant from the county of Marin was not included in the budget, so we are putting it back as revenue as it should be.
03:47:25.27 Yulia Carter Now if you talk about the expenditures, Same thing, so we are counting the same transfers several times on each end. So keep this in mind, so when you look at this number.

And the items, most of these items, again, attachment two and three will provide you what you actually need.

approved as a budget or year to date expenditures, but these items are extra. So that's what we're asking you to approve right now in terms of expenditures to other funds.

And you can see the same 120,000 transfer in and that we moved from general fund because we want to cover this hole in the project that workers' compensation expense and the claim cost.

There are some additional professional services of 137 and parking fund to face some of the fees associated with the parking services vendors. But again, remember we just presented the increase in the revenues, so actually all of this is upset by the increase of the revenues that we get in return.

The $50,000 for the storm drain replacement, this money simply fell into the fund balance and were not rolled over from the previous year.

So what happened, we created the purchase order and the expense did not occur until the current fiscal year, so wasn't in place.

Thank you.

Typically, capital improvements should be rolled over, so we're just putting this money back on the books.

And the last item is just the composite of miscellaneous expenses in sewer, operating fund, the tight lands and some non-COP related expenditures in general capital fund. You can see how it's all broken down in the attachment.

five.

summary of expenditures and transfers by fund. So you can see how this 92,000 is broken down.
03:49:40.95 Yulia Carter So now if you look at the total fund balances and they're grouped here by categories.

We know that we have 24 funds in the city of Sausalito.

And they all grouped in this five major categories.

And you can see that additional, the total fund balances would add to 16.6 million across all the funds and additional information on each of the funds.

the fund balances in each of the categories included in attachment six, I think it's the last attachment to your staff reports so you can see specifically how each fund balance is.

are represented. And one item I just wanted to mention that we did tie the actual numbers from the CAFRA. That's why we, well part of it is we are bringing this report to you now after the CAFRA is adopted. So we could actually incorporate the fiscal performance and the fund balances audited fund balances at the beginning And that's another reason why your general fund is looking good because the year before, ended on a higher note that was projected at the beginning of the fiscal year.

And Speaking about attachment six, if you look at that for a minute, You can see that there are several funds with negative fund balances. In many cases, well actually in some cases, especially specifically related to workers compensation and This negative fund balances accumulated over time.

And the,
03:51:29.98 Yulia Carter I included this slide as a policy decision for you. We can definitely table it to the budget discussion, but It's just reported to you that you have 3 million in undesignated general fund balance. So as a policy discussion or as a policy vision, decide to clear up some of these negative fund balances. And one thing I just want to mentioned that traffic safety and recreation grant fund have some revenue sources associated with these funds so you may want to leave it alone and wait until the fund balance will restore itself.

But the workers comp and general liability, the prime source of these funds would be general fund. So there is no unless you receive some kind of large settlement to clear this, It is general fund expense, and it is a parading expense.
03:52:21.65 Mayor Burns Do those numbers change if we make that decision in a couple months or in a month from now? No, they'll still have the same.
03:52:25.53 Yulia Carter No, we can.

Yeah, well I mean this fund balances the way, we will bring it back to you as part of the budget discussion.

because It's the right thing to do to clear some of the negative fund balances. You don't want to carry over the hole in the bucket.
03:52:42.42 Joan Cox We don't want to spend our $3 million in undesignated fund balance and still have negative balances in our workers comp and our general liability. We need to be able to cover.
03:52:42.61 Yulia Carter We don't want to spend.
03:52:54.88 Joan Cox those negative balances with our general fund.
03:52:57.37 Yulia Carter Very good point.

And that's what I was going to say.

If you don't act on it today, we will probably bring it to you as a budget recommendation for the budget to account for some of these clearances.
03:53:14.72 Yulia Carter And to summarize everything that I said before, so the, fiscal year.

The 2018-19 budget continues to be on track. It is still structurally balanced. We have some adjustments in revenues and expenditures as we discussed.

but the, The CDWIS project, the general fund balance, is projected to be 9.3 million, which is About 53% of operating expenditures and it includes over 3 million in undesignated fund balance. Again, both figures represent pretty sound fiscal position of the city.
03:53:59.19 Yulia Carter And as I said at the beginning of the presentation, we are going to use this work, assuming that you give us direction to do it tonight. So we are going to use it as a segue to the new budget cycle.

as we bring information budget study session to you in May and June.

We want to make sure that we use the mid year as a base for the new year.

So, This year we recommend using the modified zero based budget methodology and we'll talk about it.

during the first budget study session.

But these are pretty much the key milestones.

how we are going to build the budget. So we establish the base at the current service level that you have right now?

We'll identify any surplus and deficit, and again, based on the mid year report, you can see that we have some surplus right now.

and Everything above or below the base level of service will come back to you as a decision point, as a policy decision point as part of the budget.

So we did actually distribute budget instructions to all departments last week, I think, and so the departments are working on the budget recommendations and asks or decision packages as we speak right now. And they have been instructed to think about any additions or reductions to the budget in terms of service level discussions.

bring it back to city manager for review and ranking, and then once city manager provides a list of priorities, we will bring it to you for your consideration.
03:55:47.32 Joan Cox Are you going to include the finance committee in the budget process?
03:55:49.79 Yulia Carter budget process.

And I believe I...

Well, actually, I believe I shared the proposed schedule with you. So that's part of the reason we wanted to schedule the meeting.
03:55:59.42 Joan Cox We scheduled the meetings, but it wasn't clear to me what I'm doing at each meeting. I just know we're going to be meeting, but I don't know.
03:56:05.99 Yulia Carter Yeah, we built in, in the budget schedule, we built in two finance committee meetings.
03:56:13.99 Yulia Carter And before we break for Questions, I just want to take a moment to think.

finance staff and especially Heather and Amina who is here today and making this report possible.

Again, as I mentioned, we only had seven business days to put it together between Coffre and now.

In my mind, it was pretty much mission impossible, so these two ladies worked pretty much 24-7 to make it happen and bring it forward and identify all the adjustments.
03:56:48.07 Mayor Burns I DID ASK AMENA TO FIND SOME MONEY.
03:56:48.12 Yulia Carter I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO
03:56:51.92 Yulia Carter And she did.
03:56:52.70 Mayor Burns She did.
03:56:52.88 Yulia Carter You did.

Well, with that, I'll be happy to do that.
03:56:57.67 Mayor Burns Okay, any other questions? I'm going to open up for public comment. Are there any members of the public that would like to make a comment on this budget? Keith Kennedy.
03:57:20.07 Keith Kennedy All of my comments have nothing to do with our new Assistant City Manager, Financial Director. She landed in a big mess, as you just heard. But,
03:57:20.17 Adrian Brinton All of my comments have been
03:57:36.37 Keith Kennedy I have some real concerns I'm...

been attending all the financial committee meetings for three years, four years.
03:57:42.55 Adrian Brinton in it.
03:57:48.08 Keith Kennedy cycled through members on the committee. I'm also a member of the COP committee.

We've been transferring funds out of COP into this budget without any COP meetings, which I, strongly object to. I think that that is, a fallacy in that that committee was set up to protect the bonds.

and to not have a committee meeting, when you're spending the bond money is a mistake.

I also think that The budget request of this magnitude as an adjustment is a very strong indicator that we need a strong financial department. And I'm glad to see we're taking those steps.

Because in my opinion, we have actually failed our audit for the last three years.

Since last year, we had three significant deficiencies.

I will tell you in my previous nonprofit, I fired the CFO, when he had one significant deficiency.

And one of the significant deficiencies was carried over from the previous year. So it wasn't even corrected then.

And that deficiency is that it only takes one signature to spend money.
03:59:18.65 Keith Kennedy No second approval.

So,
03:59:24.28 Joan Cox I don't even remember. Those are my points.
03:59:24.72 Keith Kennedy Those are my points on some of the facts that are coming up here. And then I think we need to correct our significant efficiencies immediately.

If we fail our audit again, which I think is likely, given all the changes we've had to make, that will be four years in a row.

And I am afraid that it will probably affect our ability to get grants if we have to produce audits that are considered not clean.

So I'm done.
03:59:58.91 Joan Cox Thank you.
03:59:58.93 Unknown Thank you.
03:59:59.74 Joan Cox Thank you.

May I ask a question?

I love Yulia. Yulia, when we heard from you at the finance committee meeting regarding our audit deficiencies, I thought they all related to timeliness. I don't recall an audit deficiency relating to Only one signature being required to spend money.
04:00:22.94 Yulia Carter Well, that is correct.

Auditors identified timeliness as the only deficiency for the current fiscal year 17-18. And we discussed at length the plans we had taken to Minimize and eliminate and be on time moving forward and not have any deficiencies. So that's my personal goal, to have no.
04:00:39.41 Louis Rafa Thank you.
04:00:39.43 Joan Cox be on time.
04:00:46.63 Yulia Carter So how do you recognize that?
04:00:47.23 Joan Cox So how do you reconcile the fact that the auditors only deficiency related to timeliness of the audit with Mr. Kennedy's comment that one of the significant deficiencies that was carried over from the prior year is that it only takes one signature to spend money.
04:01:08.39 Yulia Carter Are you referring some prior year deficiencies?

So maybe it was.

Thank you.
04:01:13.94 Joan Cox But are you referring to this year, Keith, you were in our finance committee meeting.
04:01:13.95 Yulia Carter But are you referring to this year?
04:01:15.14 Keith Kennedy Thank you.
04:01:15.17 Yulia Carter Thank you.
04:01:16.92 Yulia Carter Thank you.
04:01:17.03 Keith Kennedy I was in the finance committee meeting and I thought we had three significant deficiencies.
04:01:22.14 Joan Cox But none of them related to only one signature being required.
04:01:22.17 Keith Kennedy Thank you.
04:01:27.96 Joan Cox That was the prior year, that was carried over from the prior year to that.
04:01:31.89 Yulia Carter And I also want to say that we still do have clean opinion. So despite the deficiencies that we have, identified by the auditors, the opinion is still clean. What is clean? The opinion is clean. The opinion, yeah. So we haven't technically failed the audit yet.
04:01:41.68 Joan Cox What is clean? The opinion is clean.
04:01:43.98 Unknown Thank you.
04:01:47.75 Yulia Carter you
04:01:47.81 Unknown I'm sorry.
04:01:47.87 Yulia Carter and hopefully we will know it.
04:01:50.42 Keith Kennedy No, we have not failed the audit. Having a significant deficiency is a major problem.
04:01:56.14 Joan Cox But Mr. Kennedy, you said if we fail our audit again, that will be four years in a row.

And so.

Okay.

Thank you.

So we did not fail our audit this year.

Is that correct, Yulia? We did not fail our audit this year.
04:02:18.89 Mayor Burns On the COP, the COP committee is going to be meeting soon, right? And they go over receipts of expenditures.

not necessarily the budgeting of the expenditures.
04:02:29.67 Keith Kennedy I understand, but I've seen a lot of progress on parks and haven't had.
04:02:35.23 Mayor Burns I think there should be something coming up really soon, right, because we should be getting receipts in? Is that?
04:02:40.49 Adam Politzer Yes.
04:02:41.03 Mayor Burns Yeah.
04:02:41.17 Adam Politzer Yes, Julie and I had a conversation this afternoon, Our intent is to have a scheduled meeting for June.

or late May and as Mr. Kennedy has pointed out Thank you.

And we're happy to say there has been a lot of activity A lot of that activity started in November with Dunphy Park and MLK. And he's correct, you go back to last spring when Melanie was still here, was probably the last official meeting. So, but as the mayor pointed out, we'll be going back and confirming every invoice can be offset by the COP funds. And if we find any discrepancies, those funds, have to be returned to the COP account.

and other funds have to be sought to compensate for that I think one of the items up there on the cleaning up list was related to sewer or storm drain activity that has to come out of a different fund Thank you for bringing that up.
04:03:44.60 Mayor Burns Thank you for bringing that up.

Thank you for bringing that up.
04:03:46.89 Adam Politzer Thank you.
04:03:49.12 Keith Kennedy Did I ask the city manager a question? Yeah, he engaged.
04:03:51.70 Mayor Burns Yeah.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.
04:03:52.82 Keith Kennedy Can you use the mic, please, so we can hear? Yes. I wanted to ask the city manager a question, and that is, do we appear on track with what we're spending for parks that we're going to have enough budget for?
04:03:55.38 Unknown I want to.
04:03:55.79 Adrian Brinton TODAY.
04:03:55.99 Unknown Yes.
04:04:08.73 Mayor Burns We have it coming up?
04:04:10.67 Adam Politzer Yeah, the answer is that we knew from years ago, that we didn't have enough COP money, and so when you've seen all the presentations when we have awarded contracts, it comes with Measure O money, it comes with ADA money, it comes with, we have to supplement. And then the big grant that we got from Cal Recycle for $750,000. So yes, we still have funds in the COP budget, and they are on track to complete the projects as originally identified.
04:04:43.78 Keith Kennedy Right.
04:04:44.07 Mayor Burns you Thank you.
04:04:44.89 Keith Kennedy Thank you.
04:04:44.93 Mayor Burns Thank you.

Thank you.

Any other public comment? Seeing none, bring it up here for council comment and directions.
04:04:55.76 Jill Hoffman I have one, sorry, follow up question. Yes. And I was looking at the general, the last, sorry, the fiscal impact of the of the staff report where it says the fiscal impact
04:05:13.19 Jill Hoffman that revenues are amended to 17 million, an increase of 282 and some change, or 2%.

And the general fund operating expenditures are admitted to 19 million in an increase of 2 million or 11% over the adopted. So in other words.

Our revenues have increased 2%, but our expenditures is 11% over the adopted fiscal year 18-19 budget. Is that right?
04:05:46.28 Yulia Carter That is correct, but again, 11%, keep in mind, this is a use, intentional use of fund balances that you had at the beginning of the fiscal year.

And most of them, like 425,000 I think out of this amount is related to CIP.

transfers out of channel fund.

And additional 775,000 is also to the pension liability fund.

is also out of the same source.
04:06:15.66 Joan Cox But that was directed by council.
04:06:17.79 Yulia Carter Right.
04:06:18.02 Joan Cox So that direction by council was not carried out in our resolution?
04:06:22.50 Yulia Carter It wasn't captured in the resolution.
04:06:25.33 Joan Cox I mean, that was such clear direction that we were going to take that.

general fund balance and invest it into our pension fund to help smooth.
04:06:33.50 Adam Politzer I'm smooth.

Thank you.
04:06:34.28 Joan Cox still
04:06:35.27 Adam Politzer Thank you.
04:06:35.29 Joan Cox We still are, it's- I know, but it's shocking to me that that direction, which was
04:06:37.03 Unknown I know, but it's not.
04:06:41.94 Joan Cox We spent Hours.

coming up with that solution that that was not memorialized in a resolution. That's shocking to me.
04:06:50.17 Yulia Carter It could be just simple mistake.

large mistake but it could be just this amount of I think I signed the resolution and I seem to remember
04:06:55.79 Joan Cox I think I signed the resolution and I seem to remember seeing the 775 in the resolution that I signed. So I'm just.

It's shocking.

to hear.

that it wasn't in there because I remember reviewing and signing that resolution so
04:07:19.10 Joan Cox Thank you.
04:07:19.11 Jill Hoffman So I have Thank you.

I guess it's just a request. Can you just put up the resolution up on the, is that possible?
04:07:29.95 Joan Cox the one for tonight.
04:07:30.91 Jill Hoffman Yeah.

Is it possible?

that we had
04:07:36.92 Joan Cox Thank you.
04:07:36.93 Unknown I just think ahead. That's page two of the, I mean. That's attachment one. That's attachment one.
04:07:39.95 Jill Hoffman That's one.
04:07:42.13 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
04:07:42.15 Jill Hoffman No, it's the resolution.
04:07:42.20 Susan Cleveland-Knowles No, it's the resolution.
04:07:46.62 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
04:07:46.64 Susan Cleveland-Knowles So while we're getting that up, can I just ask why this particular item didn't go to the finance committee? That was one of the questions that Councilmember Hoffman asked.
04:07:57.91 Adam Politzer Yeah, Julie has shared, we did the CAFRA at the last meeting and we had seven days to pull the staff report together for tonight's meeting.
04:08:05.64 Susan Cleveland-Knowles you
04:08:05.69 Joan Cox Why did we have to hear it tonight? Why couldn't we hear it at our next
04:08:05.82 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Why did we have to hear it?
04:08:06.97 Adam Politzer tonight.
04:08:07.49 Yulia Carter Thank you.
04:08:07.56 Adam Politzer Thank you.

meeting.

Because we're still racing the clock for the next budget cycle.
04:08:12.96 Yulia Carter Right, because we are planning on bringing you first study session and this work would have to be included as a base for the budget.

So if you don't take care at least, well I mean it's up to your discretion to approve or not approve items in bucket number three.

So you can just.

Technically, you can let the budget overrun if you want to.

but items in attachment two and attachment three must have for me to build the budget or reasonable budget to you for approval because otherwise it's The starting point, again, back to the resolution that was, we know, was not.

what you intended to approve.
04:08:53.27 Joan Cox For our next meeting, I would like to see the resolution that we adopted.

for our budget.
04:08:58.79 Yulia Carter Absolutely.
04:09:01.46 Unknown When is the next Finance Committee meeting?
04:09:03.06 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
04:09:05.53 Joan Cox I don't have my book in front of me.
04:09:07.60 Mayor Burns I don't know what we would have done different on this information if we heard this last night. We would have, I don't, I think that we would have been to come to council.
04:09:08.02 Joan Cox Thank you.
04:09:14.88 Joan Cox I think that All of the facts are here.

that A meeting with the Finance Committee would have helped us better digest this and
04:09:25.08 Unknown or,
04:09:25.41 Louis Rafa Thank you.
04:09:28.14 Joan Cox simplify the presentation this evening because this is very complex and convoluted as laid out very factually accurate but it's very difficult to follow as
04:09:41.33 Mayor Burns I agree, but the action is not.
04:09:41.79 Joan Cox currently laid out.

That action is clear.
04:09:48.61 Joan Cox So,
04:09:49.18 Mayor Burns And I think as usually it gets
04:09:50.09 Joan Cox It's not good.
04:09:50.67 Unknown Thank you.
04:09:50.68 Joan Cox Thank you.
04:09:50.70 Unknown Thank you.
04:09:53.33 Mayor Burns I think it's going back to what we did do a few years ago, which spend a lot of time with our finance director. Yeah. One on ones and go through this stuff.
04:10:01.10 Joan Cox Thank you.

I mean, as I said,
04:10:04.69 Susan Cleveland-Knowles But there wasn't time, I mean, the issue is there's not really time for that, given that we get stuff that we got on Saturday. I mean, that's ridiculous.
04:10:09.16 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
04:10:09.18 Joan Cox that we got it Saturday.
04:10:10.26 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
04:10:12.07 Susan Cleveland-Knowles in this case.
04:10:12.15 Adrian Brinton in this case.
04:10:13.62 Susan Cleveland-Knowles But I mean, that's the issue is yes, we do need to spend time, but we need to read something first, digest it, and then it doesn't make sense to just meet without having anything in front of us. So anyway, I just hope moving forward that we can have a more deliberate and just kind of vet this information.
04:10:14.51 Adrian Brinton issue.
04:10:27.27 Adrian Brinton So.
04:10:39.11 Susan Cleveland-Knowles and presentations to be THE COURT OF THE COURT OF THE
04:10:43.42 Mayor Burns What we did learn at a finance committee about three finance committees ago is this isn't going to be a normal process. We were farly behind when we had that meeting in January. We were identifying that we had issues that were going to put us into this type of situation.
04:10:44.40 Susan Cleveland-Knowles THAT'S GREAT.
04:10:57.81 Mayor Burns And to get out of it, might be having a seven day turnaround from a CAF or two this type of report. We're taking these steps. This is that step.
04:11:05.84 Yulia Carter Well, if I may say kind of to reiterate your point, Mr.

So the normal cycle for finance department.

You close the year at the end of the year and so
04:11:14.65 Susan Cleveland-Knowles You closed.
04:11:15.33 Unknown Thank you.
04:11:18.26 Yulia Carter 30th comes along, so then staff would start working on the year end.

Then the audit usually comes in no later than October.

then, After the audit is done, so we have two months to put CAFR together, bring it to council in December, that's a normal cycle I used to.

C in finance department, then the coffee is done.

we break for the Christmas break or holiday break. And when we come back from the break in January, We worked really hard to close six months period in December, through December, so you get the clean data from the system for six months.

And then-
04:11:56.13 Joan Cox Yulia, we are not criticizing you.
04:11:58.01 Yulia Carter No, no, I'm just saying so we be, I'm not taking the
04:11:58.33 Joan Cox We are not criticizing you.

And we have other agenda items we have to complete.
04:12:08.81 Joan Cox Okay, so- You had a question on this.
04:12:09.25 Unknown Jilly, you had a question.

No.

No. Oh, you asked her to pull it up on the screen. I am, this is part of my comments.
04:12:13.33 Joan Cox I am.
04:12:13.92 Jill Hoffman Thank you.

Thank you.
04:12:16.42 Unknown Thank you.
04:12:16.43 Jill Hoffman So y'all might as well start, right? So,
04:12:16.79 Unknown You want me to?
04:12:22.46 Jill Hoffman OKAY.

So The issue that I see right now as we're sitting here And as we started the discussion today, Is whether or not I as a city council member have confidence in this budget as it's been presented to us to vote on it tonight.

The answer is no.

I do not have confidence in this budget. I'm looking through it right now. I mean, we've talked about the timing issues. We got it on Saturday. I'm glad that, you know, Councilmember Cox, as a finance committee member, was able to sit down with Julia today.

They gave us like a day and a half to prepare for this. When you look at what I see are very significant changes of $9 million from the budget that we voted on, And I understand that there's been explanations tonight, that's fine. I need to do my due diligence as a council member and verify that.

Um, We know that there have been discrepancies in the budget and the way that the finance, the budget has been administered.

We know that because that's been presented to us tonight, and so for us not to take our do our own due diligence as council members to verify whatever it is that we've been presented with and the impact, of whatever it is we've been presented with.

I think is irresponsible.

So if I go down and look through this resolution, changes to fund balances is alarming.

I mean, that's what's so, I understand there's been explanations here tonight, but I have to go back and verify this, especially based on, the information that we've been provided tonight about discrepancies in our own CAFRA, so in the report that just came out.

earlier this month.

So there's $5 million change in the total.

negative change in the total capital project funds. And I'm just running down the right side, change the fund balance.

enterprise fund one million, almost two million change in that.

Um, run all the way down, it's a $9 million change, $9 million.

And they're changing this around in the funds.

So, I understand that there's an explanation, there's probably, if I follow the dots, maybe I will come back and say that I have confidence in the way that we're moving forward. I don't have that tonight.

And I really am very, very cautious about given this information about voting on this when council member Withy's not here, because he's probably the one that's been most immersed in these issues.

since he came on the city council.

That's my position. My vote tonight is no. My vote tonight is I would like more time, and if you guys want to go ahead and vote on it tonight and approve it, then my vote is an absolute no. I think it's irresponsible to vote on this tonight.
04:15:20.74 Unknown Any other comments?
04:15:24.89 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.

Thank you.

I mean, my only comment, and comment that I said an hour ago, which is I think we should have held this over for another till another meeting.

So, and I.
04:15:34.02 Joan Cox Yeah.

So I regrettably, I agree.

So I actually do have a pretty thorough understanding, I believe, of how these numbers match up. But I do believe that this process has not yet been transparent enough for the members of the public, for our residents, and for even all of our council members to have the same level of understanding that I do. So I don't think we should strong arm this tonight as much as I would like to be able to move along. I think I would recommend to staff that for commencement of the budget process that you work with the set of assumptions that you have prepared and presented to us tonight.

even though we won't take final action on it tonight. I think, I believe that your, that your operating principles are sound and that you have reflected in these various attachments accurate reflections. But I think we have to With the amount of money that's being transferred here and with the lack of understanding by some of my fellow council members.

I have to agree that I think we should postpone action on this.
04:17:07.16 Susan Cleveland-Knowles and Yeah.

I don't think it's a lack of understanding. I actually worked through the staff report, but I actually tonight, I've the presentation, I am actually more I hate to say I'm more, I was confused than I was when I read the presentation. So part of it is it's really late and part of it is this is very complicated.

And there's also this kind of the extra additional request being made to, anyway, as I said, I think this needed more time.
04:17:36.92 Louis Rafa Yeah.
04:17:48.75 Joan Cox The presentation was not part of our staff report. We received the presentation at five o'clock this afternoon.
04:17:53.11 Susan Cleveland-Knowles No, yes, I'm well aware of that.
04:17:57.55 Mayor Burns Given what we're doing here, I'm not concerned about this messing our budget up.
04:18:04.82 Joan Cox Right.
04:18:06.49 Mayor Burns I was not prepared nor would I necessarily make the undesignated $3 million transfers at this point because there's no difference between making it now and next month apparently financially so I'd wait on those anyway. As far as passing this, I would support it, but given that it doesn't sound like we will, I would like to vote for something that is positive. And so I'm not going to just vote no against a no, I'm going to ask you for a motion that would direct staff to give you the information that you need on a timely manner So that we can get back on schedule so that we're not sitting here in May or in June saying, well now we're behind. Or in July saying, well now we don't have a budget and always catching up.

This was fast, it had to be fast so they can catch up. And we're saying no, we don't want to catch up because we don't trust it, fine. But give staff direction on how we can get caught up in that manner. That's going to appease five of us and not overwhelm a schedule or an agenda setting that's tight already.
04:19:05.97 Joan Cox So I do trust this. I do trust this. And I'm fine with your- I would like to direct staff to work from this as the baseline premise.
04:19:06.23 Susan Cleveland-Knowles I do trust this.

I think it's a good thing.
04:19:14.68 Susan Cleveland-Knowles I'm,
04:19:14.68 Joan Cox I just want to.
04:19:15.73 Susan Cleveland-Knowles I am in agreement with that.
04:19:18.04 Joan Cox So I want staff to move forward as though This is the status of our budget for purposes of commencing our
04:19:25.41 Louis Rafa for people.
04:19:27.98 Joan Cox our second year process, but I want to.

to give Councilmembers Hoffman and Thank you.

Cleveland Knowles, and Vice Mayor Cleveland knows the opportunity to satisfy themselves and do their own checking.
04:19:43.69 Mayor Burns And build that time frame in. Correct. You're asking them to do something now. Yeah. If they're going to give it to us on Tuesday, I want to make sure that we don't sit here or on Friday or whatever, that we're not coming back and doing the same dance. Okay, so no change in this. You just want to look at this information, no other questions or meeting with her.
04:19:45.07 Joan Cox THE FAMILY.

Yeah.
04:19:51.13 Joan Cox Right.
04:19:52.21 Unknown Back in.
04:19:52.77 Louis Rafa Thank you.
04:20:00.11 Mayor Burns Okay. Well, great.
04:20:01.29 Jill Hoffman Thank you.

No, no, I'm not ready to say, Yeah.
04:20:06.79 Mayor Burns Okay, I thought you might want to meet with her.
04:20:07.13 Jill Hoffman THE FAMILY.

Yeah, sure, of course, that's what I just said, I want to verify what's in the, the proposed mid-year budget But I wouldn't direct them to go forward with what's in there, because that's the basis for my vote no tonight.
04:20:25.89 Mayor Burns to tell me what you need.
04:20:27.73 Jill Hoffman Well, I think that.
04:20:27.77 Mayor Burns Thank you.

I think that.
04:20:28.66 Jill Hoffman I think that, I think, Perhaps, I mean, it may be that we set this for the next city councilman, just set it over for whatever, whatever, if you want to have.

a special city council meeting just about I don't think we need that, I don't think at this point, because you guys, understand the, you guys understand feel like you have confidence in it.

I don't.

I need time to sit down and go through it.

and understand it. I don't understand it.

I don't know how.

you can understand it.

So that's what I'm trying to, and as Councilmember Cleveland-Knowles said, it's getting late after 10 o'clock, I'm not sure.
04:21:15.62 Mayor Burns Yeah, and it is. So I don't know. And two of the items that took the most time, we now have on the 14th agenda as well.
04:21:16.00 Jill Hoffman So, I don't know.
04:21:20.52 Mayor Burns So, um.

But let
04:21:23.50 Joan Cox The general plan.

Oh, OK.

But we have a finance committee meeting on Tuesday.
04:21:27.57 Mayor Burns We have a finance committee meeting on Tuesday. We've punted on sewer to come back to the next meeting with their things.
04:21:31.22 Unknown I'm going to go.
04:21:31.23 Joan Cox Okay.
04:21:31.25 Jill Hoffman THE FAMILY.

Yeah.
04:21:32.89 Mayor Burns So Yeah.

I'm not going to be hunting a lot to the 14th, but that's fine.

What are you talking about?
04:21:37.71 Jill Hoffman What are you talking about? That's all I can for you.
04:21:39.13 Joan Cox THE END OF
04:21:39.22 Susan Cleveland-Knowles I mean, I don't know what else I'll say.
04:21:39.97 Joan Cox Or.
04:21:40.65 Jill Hoffman Thank you.

Thank you.
04:21:40.97 Joan Cox We approved sewer.
04:21:42.03 Mayor Burns We've punted M group. We've punted M group. I thought we asked the sewer to come back and then we were going to. It's on consent. We started to do that. It's on consent. It's on consent. So sorry, take that back. Okay. But when do you want to commence your fact findings so that we can do this on the 14th and not get into a situation where the 14th information provided that we don't have enough time to digest and go through? So do you want to do it like this week and meet with her? Bye.
04:21:48.33 Joan Cox No, that's right, we didn't change that. It's on consent, yes. We started today.
04:22:11.92 Jill Hoffman I think, yeah. And then put it back on the 14th.
04:22:13.22 Mayor Burns Okay.

Yeah.
04:22:15.31 Jill Hoffman Yeah.
04:22:15.72 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
04:22:16.69 Jill Hoffman Yeah.

you
04:22:17.62 Joan Cox But I want- I think that's fine. So the Finance Committee is meeting on Tuesday the 7th.
04:22:18.04 Unknown I think that's fine.
04:22:22.16 Joan Cox So I want to make sure that we proceed with whatever you need the finance committee to do on the 7th to bring us whatever you're planning to bring us on the 14th. So I don't see on our future agenda items an item on the 14th for
04:22:38.53 Yulia Carter Thank you.
04:22:39.81 Joan Cox second year budget.
04:22:40.96 Yulia Carter We were planning to bring the first study session on the 14th. So that would be delayed by at least a meeting then.
04:22:48.79 Joan Cox Why is it delayed if we are giving you direction to proceed as though these numbers are accurate?
04:22:54.68 Yulia Carter Okay, I'm here in mixed direction here. You have three people up here who are directing you. You have three people.
04:22:59.29 Joan Cox You have three people, you have consensus of three people.
04:23:01.13 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
04:23:05.82 Jill Hoffman I do need a resolution for that.

you We're giving direction.
04:23:08.38 Mayor Burns We're giving directions.

in direction.
04:23:18.02 Mayor Burns Thank you, Julia.
04:23:33.83 Mayor Burns Update on the Martin Luther King Park AND, UM, Joan is going to step out.
04:23:40.24 Joan Cox Because my residence is within 500 feet of the Martin Luther King Park that will be the subject of this.

upcoming discussion, I'm going to recuse myself and step out of the room for this part of the discussion.
04:24:04.93 Mayor Burns And so this is a complete kind of bifurcation of this issue, because we'll also hear public comment on MLK prior to Joan coming back out. So, Andy will give a presentation on MLK only.

And what's that?

It's on MLK first, right? Yeah, and then public comment on that. Did I say that right?
04:24:24.96 Louis Rafa And...
04:24:30.24 Mayor Burns What's wrong? Am I saying that right? There is an action to take on the MLK as well. We're going to do all that and then bring Joan back in.
04:24:38.87 Andrew Davidson So that'll be done.
04:24:39.84 Mayor Burns Okay.
04:24:40.50 Andrew Davidson Thank you.
04:24:40.66 Mayor Burns So if you're saving public comment, don't save public comment about MLK until afterwards.
04:24:50.12 Andrew Davidson Good evening. Good evening. My name's Andrew Davidson, and I'm senior engineer in your Department of Public Works. This evening, I'm going to provide an update on both the MLK projects that are ongoing, the field and tennis court projects, and the potential basketball court reconfiguration to create pickleball.
04:24:52.38 Mayor Burns Thank you.

Thank you.
04:24:53.08 Louis Rafa Thank you.
04:25:12.65 Andrew Davidson So this is the recommended motion that's before you this evening to augment the budget for the work currently taking place and then to seek direction from you whether to move forward with it advertising the work, to reconfigure the basketball courts, and to include pickleball.

So I'd like to start off just with an orientation slide. I'll try and make this pretty fast. So Coloma, Bridgeway, Ebtide, here's the field, tennis courts, basketball courts.

Thank you.

So we're going to start with the field project. It was brought before you in October of last year. Majoran Gelati was a successful low bidder, roughly $988,000.

The project elements generally include a circumferential path with connections here at Coloma, two locations, connection into the MLK parking lot and out to Ebtide. Somewhere in here there is a concrete pad for a proposed gym, outdoor gym. There's a gate, a vehicle access gate here along Coloma and then irrigation and turf or grass to go back in
04:26:35.86 Andrew Davidson That was a little faster, sorry. So work started on the project on November 5th and was halted in mid-November due to, you can imagine, winter rains. Before the stop, Majoran Gelati had stockpiled available on-site topsoil, installed drainage facilities, and performed much of the rough grading.

work restarted in mid-April. Now, the remaining work generally consists of completion of the storm drain facilities, paving of the circumferential paths, and I think they're starting that tomorrow, placement of topsoil, irrigation, insulation of grass, insulation of the outdoor gym equipment, and vehicle gate along Coloma. So the outdoor gym, the concrete pad is included in Majoran Gelati's project. The installation of the gym equipment is outside of their scope, and that will be handled by city staff.

So change orders. As of March 31st, we have net change orders of just under $11,000. That March 31st date is the last invoice we have from the contractor.
04:27:55.90 Andrew Davidson Let me go back. Sorry. No, that's fine. As of April 23rd, we are going to have some additional changes.

And those total to $28,700, broken down with drainage revisions, some fine grading along the eastern property line, and traffic signal modifications. So the two change orders total around $39,000, those that we know of and those that we're anticipating.
04:28:30.69 Andrew Davidson touch on schedule here the current schedule for completion of the installation of the irrigation and then the grass is anticipated for mid-June the turf then is going to need to sit for as long as we can allow it to sit to establish itself during that time where the turf is sitting we'll try and provide access to the circumferential paths as much as possible and to the outdoor gym once the gym equipment has been installed and we'll attempt to do that by relocating the construction area fencing
04:29:09.15 Andrew Davidson So now we're going to bring on Mike Langford, who is your Parks and Rec Director, to speak about landscaping at MLK.
04:29:21.39 Mike Langford Good evening council and I'm glad I'm not saying good morning As you know, one of the things when we designed the MLK project, landscaping was not included in the original scope of the project. But we have been very fortunate. I've been working with Sausalito Beautiful and Lise Cialino on a landscaping plan, which includes quite a few trees. This is a draft that I received earlier today showing the latest. We're still going to go back and forth and look at some things, make sure that we have the right trees selected and that they are in the right locations so that we can not creating a hazard as we use the sports field for soccer, softball, lacrosse, and other variety of sports that we all seem to be out there playing.

I think there we go so as I said the landscaping was not included in the original scope of the work it's also beautiful stepped in and I do want to say that they have actually funded the landscaping plan that you saw there in the amount of two thousand five hundred dollars so we're very fortunate that they could do that that draft that you saw shows a hundred is planned for a hundred trees of nine varieties and 32 bushes So what are the next steps with the landscaping? Well, we're gonna continue to work on the plan, as I said, make sure that everything is in the right place and we've got the right trees, because what you don't wanna do is put the wrong tree in the wrong place and end up having to remove it later for one reason or another. We've seen that throughout town where we see the sidewalks lifted or pathways lifted or the Tree is simply in a location where we need to put something else that the residents would like there.

Once we get the once I work with them and I feel that I'm confident with a plan that I'm going to take it to the Parks and Recreation Commission for their comments and their approval.

Once we have that we take it to the Planning Commission again for their comments and approval and then we start the fundraising and Sausalito beautiful again is stepping up and saying that they're going to assist us with the fundraising and Staff estimates that if you include the purchase of all the trees as well as the planting of the trees, it would be approximately $50,000. Now that number could change depending on the size of the trees and the type you put in. Some trees, if you get a 15 gallon tree, it's $100. If you get a 36 inch, container that tree can cost over $500 so again working with Saucy the Beautiful we'll figure out what are the right trees what are the right sizes and what's appropriate to put in And if all goes well, the planting will begin this fall.
04:32:07.86 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Ask a question.

Can I ask a question?
04:32:12.01 Mike Langford Thank you.

Go now or after the end of the presentation, whichever.
04:32:13.48 Susan Cleveland-Knowles So I just.

Oh, is there more?
04:32:17.88 Mike Langford More for MLK, yes. Andy's got a few more things.
04:32:20.80 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay, well mine has to do with the tree planting. So first of all, great that the city is working with Sassolito Beautiful and thanks to Sassolito Beautiful, but it would have been great. There's been so much public interest in this that.

um would have been good to have that included in our staff report but just a question on timing um Right now we're being asked to spend...

additional money on the outdoor gym equipment, which
04:32:54.87 Mike Langford We've actually purchased that. It's sitting in the corporation yard ready to be installed.
04:32:59.29 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Oh, I thought, isn't that part of our staff report? Am I?
04:33:04.51 Mike Langford No, that was part of the original budget.

Yeah, the $25,000 was part of the initial budget.

being that there's a lead time on that.

where I worked with a small committee to select all the different equipment, did site visits, and then we did a purchase order and purchased the equipment, and it is ready to go.
04:33:24.69 Adam Politzer Okay. What Andy had explained was that it wasn't part of the award of contract to Majoran Gelati because we didn't want to pay the overhead costs. And as I know, Mike and staff from Age Friendly Sosville Village went out and toured facilities to take a look and then May the order direct without any additional costs.
04:33:51.27 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay.
04:33:53.09 Mayor Burns Have there been other outlays of the MLK project that show two soccer fields.
04:34:01.49 Mike Langford Yeah.
04:34:02.74 Mayor Burns And could that be put over the tree plan?
04:34:05.19 Mike Langford This one here, yeah, there's the original outlay shows the softball field.

Thank you.

softball field here, main soccer field here. We do have a plan that there was a soccer field that could be put out here, wouldn't be quite full size. And then as shown on this plan, there's the possibility of a soccer field in this direction here.

I can come back or provide you with the one with the soccer field in this location.
04:34:35.87 Mayor Burns and it doesn't interfere with the trees that are there?
04:34:37.74 Mike Langford I haven't looked at that yet.

haven't positioned it on the yet.
04:34:46.33 Mike Langford Thanks.
04:34:46.69 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
04:34:53.03 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay, thanks.

So Andy, can you just go back to the slide that shows what you're asking us to approve for additional expenditures on MLK tonight.
04:35:08.83 Andrew Davidson Back or forward? Let me go forward, because maybe that will...
04:35:09.94 Susan Cleveland-Knowles And.
04:35:17.52 Andrew Davidson So this just moves forward to the table that is in the staff report with the addition of the column showing the Parisi CSW heading. That was added at the request of the city manager and assistant city manager. That amount was awarded as part of the October 30 award of last year. So looking at these two tables, the top table is what was budgeted going across we've got the field the tennis court and then the totals below so the construction costs are the bid items for the field that the 998 000 tennis courts the 315 315 dollars the two contingencies there's the outdoor gym which was purchased under the authority of the city manager. And we have the Parisi amount that consisted of additional design work and some construction management and those numbers total across and down for the total of $1,396,000 that has been budgeted. If we go down to to the second table those are the costs that we've got as of april 23rd and it's just similar we've got the bid amounts there's the outdoor gym the change orders which i didn't complete speaking about but there they are the 39 000 for the two field components and then the tennis court amount at the 30K. Those total to roughly 70. If you take the difference between the total cost in the lower right and the total budget in the lower left, I'm sorry, in the lower right, you get what we see at the very bottom, which is the ask for MLK right now as of April 23rd. It's $29,565.
04:37:06.40 Adrian Brinton uh,
04:37:15.46 Andrew Davidson Okay, and then stepping back to where the ending of the landscape. So the tennis courts were awarded on January 22nd.

I paid those two to Majora and Gelati for the symmetrical number of $315,315.

The items generally consisted of removing portions of the tennis court most damaged by the roots of the trees, removing the top two inches everywhere else, a re-topping of the surface with two inches of asphalt and then the sports surface and the pavement markings, a new van accessible stall at Coloma, and a new accessible path of travel on the easterly edge of the project. And just very quickly, there's the accessible stall. Here's the accessible path of travel right here on the easterly side. And this is the court surface.
04:38:21.54 Andrew Davidson So work started on March 25th, and during the course of construction, the following changes have arisen. The city had intended to reuse the chain-link fence fabric that was removed along the easterly side of the tennis court.

Sorry.
04:38:41.42 Andrew Davidson East in this case is up, so the easterly side is on the top there.

But unfortunately, as I said, the channeling fence was in very poor condition, or the fabric was, and it was not in good enough condition to put back up. So M&G and their subcontractor were directed to replace that fence fabric at a cost of $5,000. That will include a bottom rail. The existing asphalt surface and subgrade could not be rehabilitated as planned the cost to recondition the sub base will be twenty three thousand dollars additional costs to bring that sub base to grade may be incurred the existing tennis court net posts could not be protected in places and as what had we had wanted to, and the cost to remove them was $1,000. There will be additional expenses to replace them, and there was some additional concrete removal that had to take place in the northeastern corner. So as of April 23rd, the total overages right now are $30,000. So the significant change order is having to recondition the subbase. During construction, the contractor got on the surface with small pickups and construction vehicles were found to be causing significant damage to the surface and the subbase of the tennis courts. Sample potholes were excavated, which showed the sub base was saturated with not good compacted material. The contractor used a probe to probe into these voids, and the probe just sank to its full depth of four feet, and that was just by hand. We had hoped to do some spot repair to adjust the, or to save a portion of the existing sub base.

But to do that, we tested it by wheel rolling with construction equipment, and there just wasn't enough to save.

So it was determined that the best way, and it was agreed upon that the best way to move forward was to grind the existing surface, consisting of the asphalt and the tennis court surface, and mix it with the existing base, and allow that material to dry out. After it's dried, it will be recompacted. We may have to add some additional material to bring it to its finished grade, and then we can install back on contract with the two inches of asphalt, and then the tennis court surfacing.

The plus is it's going to be a really good, very good chord. It's going to be more expensive, but it's going to be a very good bass.
04:41:27.40 Andrew Davidson Schedule, the current schedule will depend on the amount of time required to do the drawing of the sub-base material. It's out there right now being dried. The weather is good. Contractor a couple times a week goes out and mixes it up with some equipment and allows another section to dry. Once that sub-base is dried and brought back to grade and the new asphalt is placed, it will take 14 days for the asphalt to cure, basically, for the oils to evaporate or go back into the asphalt. After that, the installation of the new tennis court surface will take place, including the pavement markings, and that will take about two weeks. So we anticipate that the tennis courts will be reopened before the end of June.

Here's this table, which we briefly spoke about.
04:42:24.62 Andrew Davidson So the next item is the potential project for the basketball court reconfiguration to add pickleball.

Here's a picture, you saw this image in October.

It's reconfiguration of the courts to include two pickleball courts presented in October to the city council. The cost of this conversion is about $80,000, which is higher than was anticipated in October. The work would include new fences, basketball hoops, repair of the existing surface, and then a new sports surface would be placed on the repaired existing surface. There had been We had thought about putting A new asphalt surface on top of The existing based on the repaired existing surface. There had been, we had thought about putting a new asphalt surface on top of the existing surface and we met out on site with Majoran Gelati.

Thank you.

looked it over and we concurred with their recommendations that it's not needed the surface is is okay there's some block failing large areas not alligator crocking and so with cleanup of the cracks and some grinding of cracks that that might not be even across the top we think that's the best way to go So the anticipated shelf life of this project, as described there, will be about six to eight years with maintenance of any cracks that do appear over time need to be protected so that water doesn't get into the sub base, much like a road, but the loading is significantly less.

So back to the motion that we're asking about tonight. And there are two parts. One is to amend the budget by an additional $29,565 for the construction of the field and tennis courts at the MLK complex. And then part two is we're asking you to provide direction to city staff whether to advertise the MLK Pickleball project for construction. And then should you so direct return to the council with identified funding sources to award construction, hopefully to award construction of a contract for the MLK Pickleball project.

And with much enthusiasm, that wipes out that presentation. Both Mike and I are available for comment or questions.

Any questions?
04:44:43.03 Mayor Burns for Andy or Mike.
04:44:45.87 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Yeah, so just going back to the trees for a second. So why was the landscape plan?

not originally included in the budget. I mean, I know we were doing a lot of value engineering at both Dumpy and here to get to a bid that we could afford, which...

But we've been kind of adding things back.

As money has become available. So I'm just wondering why I have, I mean, Mike, I think we emailed about this several months ago and it sounded like we were going to be doing a landscaping plan.

And
04:45:21.37 Mike Langford The trees or landscaping was not included. It was simply value engineering. We had a very limited budget, and you can get the base project done, much as we're doing with some of the other things, and then come back and add trees, plantings, things like that in the future. What we do have in the plans is irrigation sleeves, so piping going underneath the asphalt paths so that when trees or other Landscaping is added. We have the ability to water them. So we we planned ahead For these but we did not include them in the original scope of the work
04:45:56.15 Susan Cleveland-Knowles And is there a reason not to be coming back now for added scope of work?
04:46:03.47 Mike Langford Well, I'm still we're still working on the plan if council wishes we can come back when we finish the plan and present it to council if they would choose to fund it
04:46:14.34 Adam Politzer Yeah, I'll just comment on that. I think originally when we brought the projects forward, part of the discussion from the council was looking to the Park and Rec Commission working with the community especially with Sussaudet of Beautiful to see if there was a community campaign that could help fund the restoration of trees. Because we had done a report on the health of all the trees on the MLK campus, which coincided with the project, which ended up removing a significant number of trees.

which then created an outcry from the community.

that's that's where we are with the help of Sausalito Beautiful and again with the support of the Park and Rec Commission and The community is to fund the trees through the donation program
04:47:03.72 Susan Cleveland-Knowles So, and what's the timing? I mean, is that, are we on any critical path for getting...

Are the trees planted or is that-
04:47:14.64 Mike Langford The best time to plant the trees would be in the fall, then we can take advantage of the natural weather, and hopefully we have a good winter with rain to water the trees so they have a chance to get established before the heat of the summer. So again, working with the community on the plan and then on the fundraising, I would like to move forward with planting as many trees as we can.

uh, sometime in the fall.
04:47:37.65 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay.

Thank you.
04:47:41.01 Adam Politzer So Councilman on Cleveland, add to that to your question the timing presents itself in the next budget cycle looking at any surplus or any discretionary funds if the council so chooses to direct funds towards planting trees or additional landscaping, that would be the opportunity.
04:48:05.60 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay.

Thank you.
04:48:08.42 Jill Hoffman So I have a question, I think it's going to be the same answer. So with regard to the basketball and the pickleball.

I'm not anti-basketball or anti-pickleball, just let me make that clear. So the funding source would be the direction, the staff is looking for direction, do we go out with an, RFP and go forward, but then how do we fund that?

Is that when we get it back, when we get the responses back?
04:48:33.75 Adam Politzer Yes, so I think the longer answer goes back to the original strategy with the measure O money that was approved for Dunphy Park, which is also part of your presentation that we're recommending using some of that measure O money. But it still leaves a balance of measure O money of roughly $300,000, maybe a little bit more than that so again you could use the measure own money because measure own money went for a lot of different objectives including ADA streets sidewalks and parks so obviously you know we have already made a decision to use 600,000 towards Dumpy Park but that got replaced by the grant that we had. So there'll still be a balance. The other piece is that, as you may also remember, we reached an agreement with the contractors that did the re-roofing, which returned to the MLK balance roughly $60,000 of unspent money that was on the roof, well that goes back into the MLK fund that could also be reallocated. So I think now that we have budget mid-year budget numbers that we can work from we'll be able to come back to the council with recommendations on you know assuming it's a 30 at least a 30-day noticing for contractors to bid on this project and then time for staff to review it you know you're talking at least six weeks at the earliest before we'd come back to council to award the pickleball courts so that's you know i think there's an opportunity to move forward with going out to bid because our original estimate was around fifty five thousand dollars for pickleball came in at 80 our estimate so until you get a real until you get a bid it's we're all just speculating here until you get the hard number comes in at 120 000 we're going to say enjoy the basketball courts that are out there.

And but if it comes in at around $80,000 and we think we can make recommendations based on the fund balances Then we would do so
04:50:45.59 Jill Hoffman And it's $80,000 just for the different painting, different configuration?
04:50:50.94 Andrew Davidson it's a different configuration so it's new it would re so you to do the reconfiguration you have to relocate the basketball hoop so it's new hoops new conditioning of the surface a lot of new fencing
04:50:58.89 Jill Hoffman Oh, gotcha.
04:51:03.97 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay. Okay, thanks.

Thank you.

and just one quick question did the wreck what did was the rec park commission's recommendation on this proposal for the 29 and the pickleball
04:51:17.64 Mike Langford This presentation didn't have a chance to go to them, but based on previous conversations, they did make the recommendation that the Measure O funds that were pulled from dumping because we got the grant be available for other park projects such as the MLK project if needed.

and they are very supportive of the Pickleball configuration. We've had multiple meetings where we've had lots of members from the public requesting that we put this in.

Just a little side note. We have pickleball there every Friday night, and it's in the gym and it's packed
04:51:59.13 Mayor Burns Can I ask a question on the, if we had a terrible number and it came in $120,000, $140,000, and we said, okay, we have to scrap and keep our standards where they are and go forth, could we stripe in pickleball with an off-colored striping enough to at least have something out there?
04:52:18.52 Mike Langford You could definitely stripe that in. The problem is you don't have the fencing to keep the errant pickleballs from leaving the court. There's still also the problem of the surface, which has multiple cracks in it, and a large part of the program that we're doing here is to repair the surface to make it a much better playing surface.
04:52:36.09 Mayor Burns Granted, if we did that, but didn't go through the full loan program of $100,000.
04:52:45.25 Susan Cleveland-Knowles So are you just suggesting putting it out to bid in two phases?
04:52:48.32 Adam Politzer Yep.
04:52:48.69 Mayor Burns Thank you.
04:52:48.97 Adam Politzer No, the mayor is suggesting that the bid comes in at some extreme number. What are our options to do something at 120 or 140 times?
04:52:55.04 Susan Cleveland-Knowles to do something.
04:52:55.48 Mike Langford Bye.
04:52:55.49 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
04:52:55.66 Mike Langford You go.

Okay, well, the first thing that would need to be done would be the paving and get that repaired. But then when you do that, you start putting on the lines. The basketball standards, we'd have to rearrange something, cut some down. To purchase those, it's about $3,000 per quart. The new fencing quote was approximately $15,000, so it can be piecemealed, but it's not the best situation.
04:53:25.65 Mayor Burns Because right now they're laying blue tape on a court that's too small, and it's a packed gym. So ultimately we might be able to do something. I'm hoping that we don't come in at $140,000, but I know what we're dealing with right now. Small courts, three of them jam together with duct tape every Friday night. And it's working.
04:53:42.47 Mike Langford hopefully blue painters tape not duct tape that's a gym blue paint
04:53:44.57 Mayor Burns That's what it's blue painter's tape, sorry.
04:53:49.01 Mayor Burns Any other questions?

Public comment.
04:53:53.09 Unknown I'm like
04:53:53.36 Mayor Burns I have one coming.

I have two in hand. Let's go with Lisa, Meg, and then Bill.

in order of, oh, we got another one.
04:54:11.89 Unknown And so,
04:54:12.16 Lisa Chilino Hello, my name is Lisa Chilino and I'm a member of Sausalito Beautiful and I'm here to talk about trees at MLK Park.
04:54:12.23 Mayor Burns Hello.
04:54:12.31 Unknown Bye.
04:54:21.27 Lisa Chilino We've had a lot of discussion about all sorts of things having to do with MLK.

um, and where we want to spend our money. And I want to advocate that trees should be a top priority for us.

Trees provide the largest and the longest lasting impact that we can have in our public green space. MLK Park is 50% of the park space in Sausalito.

We need trees for that park.

that park will not be fully utilized or appreciated without any trees.

And when you think of all the other things that we've done for MLK Park or could do, whether it's paths, equipment, pickleball courts, et cetera. We're talking about lifespans of Five years, six years, eight years, maybe 10 years. Trees have a lifespan of 150 years. The investment we make today is going to have the largest and the longest lasting impact for our kids.

So this Is not the time to approve a budget for trees.

But I would urge you to keep that in mind as we move forward with the tree plan for MLK Park, that trees should be way up there on your priority list.
04:55:37.12 Louis Rafa Amen.
04:55:43.64 Lisa Chilino I spent some time with about 150 kids at the New Village School.

Many of these kids were devastated that the trees were taken down in the park. That's a place that they play on a daily basis.

And it was, When Sausalito Beautiful embarked on this, paying for this plan for the park, we had heard that there's no money left Dunphy Park has overruns. There's no money in the city.

And, I'm very excited that the city is going to pay for the complete landscaping plan in Dunphy Park but why is MLK Park the stepchild.

As far as I can tell, The funding is coming from MLK park tenants, the vast majority of it, We have a all the kids at the Licee School and the New Village School These kids need trees.

Our neighborhood needs trees.

and I love Sausalito and I love trees and suslito parks and i hope that you support us moving forward thank you
04:56:59.68 Mayor Burns Meg.
04:57:03.88 Meg Fawcett everyone.

I'm Meg Fawcett, and I just want to talk about pickleball because I was introduced to it in December. I've been playing it essentially every Friday night on these shortened chords. It is an enormous amount of fun.

and it's possible for people like me to play, that it's an older person, but to play not only with just with anybody, I was playing with middle school kids and I would be playing with people from Sauce Little Village and I've been playing with all kinds of ages and I just hope than the next budget.

you'll be able to find the money to do this. Because the foreshortened courts are really pretty pathetic. And you go slamming into the wall and things like that. But they're still fun. I mean, they're better than nothing. But it's a great sport for everybody. So I just wanted to put a plug in for it. Thank you.
04:57:55.01 Mayor Burns Thank you. I haven't got to play you yet, Meg, but bring your wallet when we do.
04:57:58.17 Meg Fawcett Yeah.

.
04:58:00.19 Mayor Burns Yeah.

Bill.
04:58:11.45 Bill Hines Thank you. Bill Hines, speaking on behalf of Sausalito Beautiful.

Um, One of the things that I'd like to mention, and Mike, you were kind of recounting the process to move this forward and make this project a reality.

Um, I sort of I feel like, and one of the steps that was mentioned you know, and the whole process is going to Planning Commission.

And this is kind of an issue that I've been talking about with individuals in the community, some of the park and recs commissioners. And it sort of feels like to do projects like this, it shouldn't really be necessary to get Planning Commission approval.

Um...

And I guess one of the things I struggle with is for landscape projects, I think it's somewhat difficult to get constructive criticism on specifics with respect to landscape plans, like types of trees. And I think that it works well in terms of design review for architecture, but is maybe less appropriate for, kind of ratifying improvements to park projects that it seems like there should be maybe more of an internal mechanism to help facilitate. I think that, you know, the community, as much as we've heard, is very much in favor of tree planting in the park. And I would, you know, like to explore routes that allow us to move the plan forward with not putting the project through planning commission or if it does need to go through planning commission, I feel strongly that it's something that the city should do and present to the Planning Commission, and it's probably not appropriate for Sausalito Beautiful to do that.

Thank you.

and there are a couple reasons i believe that one is you know we've sponsored the plan and the design with money that we have either donated ourselves as board members or that we've been received donations from the community and i think that putting a project that like this through planning commission obviously spends additional time and money to do things when our donations and our financial contributions to the project are best served by actually planting the trees. So I just wanted to ask that for some of these improvement projects in parks, if we can figure out kind of a quicker route to be able to move these forward, rather than necessarily going to planning commission, Or if there's another way to think more creatively about that
05:01:13.39 Mayor Burns Thank you. Sybil.
05:01:22.32 Unknown Good evening, or almost good morning. So my perspective of course is on the older population here in South Salido, which is 34% of our city now, according to the latest American survey. So when we developed our age-friendly South Salido plan, which was approved by the city council, one element.

for was for open space.

I WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE for older adults in an intergenerational setting.

Most of our parks, we always plan for the children.

Very little has been done planning for older adults. We had a vision at MLK, which was wildly popular when we did go before the Park and Recreation Commission. It was really supported by the other public that was there.

And the plan was to have a real destination that consisted of A fitness zone that was really designed with equipment that was not only good for younger adults, but really chosen to be especially helpful for older adults to help so that they don't deteriorate and develop more functional.

disabilities as they get older.

The other elements were the walking path, there's no good walking path like that anywhere in the city for older adults. It's easy to get easily accessible and that can be measured and that we can use for even structured walking groups. And the third element was the pickleball courts, which allows a level of active exercise for people like me that have arthritis and can no longer play tennis or some of these other team sports that are so much fun. And also good for our general well being and health. So this concept of having a real destination where older adults can come during the day Thank you. So this concept of having a real destination where older adults can come during the day when kids are in the school and they have a place where that's really happening and that will help them to maintain this level of healthiness. I think it's a really important model for us to keep in mind as we're working on our plans for MLK.

So I really urge you to think about these different elements to fund the money that is needed to complete the pickleball plan.

We are moving ahead with the other elements and we've been working in the background to develop programming and so forth to really make it a great element in the city.
05:04:29.16 Mayor Burns Thank you. Thanks, Sybil. Looks like we have one more. Carol?
05:04:35.42 Carolyn Revell Carolyn.
05:04:35.60 Unknown I'm terrified.
05:04:35.93 Adrian Brinton Thank you.

you Thank you.
05:04:40.36 Carolyn Revell That's what I'm going to say. Caroline Rivelle with Sausalito Beautiful. I'm one of those 30% older residents, and once I get my 10,000 steps in, I would love to walk on this path, and I would love to walk on it. If it has shade, secondly, as a grandmother, I've gone to many, many little league game and soccer games, and I must say that having a chance to sit in the shade is quite desirable. One of my favorite parks to go to is the one in Cordo Madero and sitting under the trees there watching the grandchildren play soccer is a greater pleasure than being in the sun. Finally, of course, we should consider climate change and we should plant trees wherever we have opportunities to help mitigate climate change. So as a grandmother caring about my children and the future generation, let's plant trees for that reason as well. Thank you very much.
05:04:40.63 Adrian Brinton that's what I'm THE FAMILY.
05:05:31.73 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
05:05:32.27 Carolyn Revell Thank you.
05:05:32.29 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
05:05:32.39 Carolyn Revell Thank you.
05:05:32.58 Jill Hoffman Thank you.

I have a question, a tree question. Carolyn, we have a question. Is that okay?
05:05:35.48 Carolyn Revell THE FAMILY.

Thank you.
05:05:36.03 Unknown Thank you.
05:05:37.45 Jill Hoffman Or any of you guys, what's the, for the, maybe this is a question for Bill. Maybe he's still here. Yeah, there he is. Just ballpark figure. Like do you have a ballpark, anything just so we.
05:05:49.60 Susan Cleveland-Knowles that to us.
05:05:50.95 Jill Hoffman Oh, they did?
05:05:51.59 Bill Hines Thank you.
05:05:51.71 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Yeah.
05:05:52.05 Bill Hines I believe that Mike covered that. Oh, sorry. I think he had the number of $50,000. Okay, I'm sorry, pardon me. $50,000. Okay.
05:05:53.25 Jill Hoffman you.
05:05:53.26 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Mike, too.
05:05:54.34 Jill Hoffman I think he had the number.
05:05:56.79 Unknown Thank you.
05:05:56.86 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
05:05:58.83 Carolyn Revell Okay.
05:05:59.03 Mike Langford THE FAMILY.
05:05:59.12 Mayor Burns Sorry, pardon me.
05:05:59.81 Mike Langford and
05:06:00.03 Mayor Burns Okay.
05:06:00.23 Mike Langford Yeah.
05:06:00.47 Carolyn Revell Thank you.
05:06:00.49 Mayor Burns Thank you.

Thanks.

Thank you.

Any other public comment?

See none. Let's bring this item up here.
05:06:11.98 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Yeah, so generally I'm in favor of the requests in the staff report for moving forward with the pickleball the cost adjustments, the new budget, so I'm in favor of those.

I just want to thank all the members of the public who came with different aspects to watch for as this great project takes shape. And I think one of the things that was just very well demonstrated is that this, we have all generations in Sausalito and that we need to make our open spaces. Not only great for each one of those, but also all of them together. That that's really a wonderful element of the parks. So to that end, I would just thank you to Sausalito Beautiful for the work that you've done on the tree.

plan, the landscaping plan to date, one of the main aspects of MLK Park is the field space, and it's something we desperately need in Sausalito and Southern Marin, I increased my VMT and carbon emissions exceedingly by driving all over the place to find soccer fields for my kids to play on.

Just that the tree planting as we move forward respects the need for the field space and I think they're compatible but it just needs to be done thoughtfully and safely so very excited about that and I hope that the city and Sasslito beautiful can partner on the funding and that we can figure that out as our budget progresses in June.

Thank you.
05:08:02.61 Jill Hoffman THE END OF THE END OF THE Yes, I'm for Pickleball, make that clear. Entries, and yeah, so yes, I support all this.

echo the same comments. Thank you to Sausliu, beautiful of course.

probably your tremendous effort here in Sausalito. I just had a compliment today on the medians in Sausalito, and I said thank our staff, and Sausalito beautiful, so thank you. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Sorry, one more thing, I'm sorry, pardon me. One thing that I requested a long time ago, I feel like it was a long time ago, but Whenever we get updates for the three parks, for, well, for, I guess all of it. But any of this COP money that we have running totals.

and just have a running So we're not going to be able to Spreadsheet.

a running balance sheet, sorry it's midnight, what the COP money was and then whatever else we've done to fund the parks. Because I know that's a question in the interest of transparency. I know people are going on that.
05:09:15.33 Mayor Burns Thank you.

Support pickleball, first and foremost. So the tennis court improvements, the pickleball, yes, I'm hoping that it comes in under 100 and we can do that court and get that. In fact, we were at Corte Madera last week, and there's a big sign as you walk into the Corte Madera Rec Center that says, join the pickleball league for like $80, and everything else was $35, $25. It had $80, and it was also the big thing, fastest growing sport in America. If you go online, I mean, it is the fastest growing sport, so we shouldn't be the second slowest to pick it up. We should pick this sport up and run with it, like we did bocce, and that has been wildly successful. So, fully supportive of those. Trees, in general, I love them. I think they're great. This is not necessarily a park. This is an athletic field. It's defined as an athletic field in our plans. It's defined as an athletic field in all the process we've gone up to this point. We don't have athletic fields in Sausalito anywhere else. This is where our kids do play sports. It's where we do coach kids in softball, where other people come and play soccer, where we make money doing those things, where they provide to our economy.

For years, I have dealt with broken branches. And yeah, the kids love to play with them because they build forts on the softball forts, softball diamonds. So every day I take all the broken branches from the trees and remove them so that we can play softball because that's what the kids do with them.
05:10:34.10 Adrian Brinton Ouch.
05:10:34.55 Mayor Burns For years, there was a tree on the far end of the field that made the soccer people and the lacrosse people move their court, their field, four feet into our infield. So we either had to play a very tight second base or around the first base very carefully, or we didn't play at all. Those are the types of things that a tree placement, impacted us tremendously So taking into consideration that these are athletic fields and I want to make sure that we don't lose the maximization of the athletic experience by placing trees or considering the trees prior to finalization of the project.

And you know, I know where the parents sit for the softball games in Sausalito.

They go out to the far end where the sun is.

Because it was not warm most of the times we play in April, May, and June. Maybe it gets warmer in September, and I know it does, but very rarely, unless it's three o'clock in the afternoon, were we looking for shade, were mostly looking for sun. And I'm out there a lot. I, as you know, managed MLK, I've coached out there for eight years. I work on that field every three days a week and every Saturday morning.

It's always a challenge for us out there, and I want to make sure that we maximize the athletic field endeavor that we've embarked on. So trees that don't, like the map I saw where it just kind of comes right in and changes the use of the athletic, I don't know, I'd like to see more on that before we just start signing off. But up where the between the pickleball and the the workout center is and the field house awesome place for trees so i think we could find a solution to have the trees put out there i just really want to take into consideration the athletic uses and i think we'd have a great a great deal so let's just keep it in perspective of what we're trying to do out there and get get that all put in the ground so i'm really helpful it's so neat We need to see the path going in, the base. Now we know. there and get get that all put in the ground so I'm really helpful it's so neat to see the path going in the sub base now we know where that's going to be we know how perfect that is going to be for our seniors in our walking communities to get out and enjoy that athletic area very quickly so thank you for all that work on that So we have a motion.
05:12:57.03 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you for everybody for staying so late. I really appreciate it.

Yeah.
05:13:01.28 Jill Hoffman Those of you who have your Thank you.

Do we have a resolution?
05:13:07.24 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Yeah.
05:13:07.68 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
05:13:07.71 Susan Cleveland-Knowles We need to do a resolution. Where's Joan?
05:13:10.58 Mayor Burns Call her in to make it.
05:13:11.03 Susan Cleveland-Knowles coloring to make it.

Is it?

Yeah.

So I will make a motion to amend the budget by an additional 29,565.

$5,000 for the construction at MLK complex and provide direction to city staff to advertise the MLK Pickleball project for construction. And return to the city council with identified funding sources to award a construction contract for the MLK Pickleball project.

Second.
05:13:40.08 Mayor Burns All in favor? Aye. Aye. That passes. 3-0 with one recused.
05:13:40.77 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Hi.
05:13:45.87 Mayor Burns Go.
05:13:48.41 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Will you tell Joan to come back?
05:13:49.41 Mayor Burns Yeah. Whisper. Come here.
05:13:51.62 Susan Cleveland-Knowles All right.
05:13:53.90 Mayor Burns Denpsey Park and Southview.
05:14:01.96 Lauren Thank you.

No.
05:14:04.55 Andrew Davidson Sir, computer log.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah.
05:14:09.07 Adrian Brinton Mm-hmm.
05:14:13.90 Susan Cleveland-Knowles could have done it the other way around, but that would have.
05:14:33.00 Lauren Good evening, Mr. Mayor and other members of the council. Thank you for being so patient tonight.

sticking around for all these important topics.

There's what I've been seeing is a lot of good news in some of this. So thank you again, and thank you for taking the time to.

not push me off until the next meeting.

I'd like to talk a little bit about Dunphy Park. We'll go through this, and I'll try to go through as quickly as we can. A lot of this is stuff that you've already seen. So you'll see a lot of tables here that you've already seen before.

I'll try to go through this and give you a brief history of some of the things that you've already approved and some of the other things that you've already seen.

this goes back to what we were told by the council directed by the council on the community to do which is to continue to deliver parks to the community as we've just talked about MLK and as a result of that direction back many months ago.

We awarded a contract to Integra for the construction of Dunphy Park for $2.175 million.

We issued a notice of award. We also added some additional funds for RHAA, which is our designer at that park, and These are things that you've already seen and already approved. You also directed staff that we would make sure that we would have an adequate number of trees and shrubs on the project and that we would also be working with Galilee on helping to put their parking in.

which was a requirement of some of their grant funding.

So back in that beginning, period of time, we broke the project up into a couple different parts. We have general engineering scope, which is what is really going on out there now, which is utilities, moving earth, and that's in progress right now.

Another piece of that is the restroom. It is a prefab restroom.

There's also a trash enclosure.

It's noted here that that is bid exempt and that's because it's through a government contract basically piggyback contract and And we have the numbers for that, and you're being asked to consider that this evening.

and also to add and install landscaping out there.

So just a brief update on some of the history here.

The notice of award was issued to Integra in June of 2018.

The notice to proceed was issued to Integra to start construction December 3rd.

Now, that's important because we'll talk about that in a second. The BCDC permit, which has allowed us to start this project, was issued on December 10th of 2018.

So we basically gave the notice of award to Integra to start the project a few days before we got that BCDC permit, knowing that we were going to receive that shortly.

So the other point that is going to become important, because I know a lot of people are asking questions about the project and when it's going to be completed, we originally gave the contractor 150 calendar days to complete the project. So assuming a start of on or about mid-December, that contract duration runs to about May 10th, would have run to May 10th.

as Andy noted for the MLK project as well as for this one, we did get a lot of rain this season. And so that obviously has impacted our construction schedule.

The good thing to think about this, I know rather have it open right now for the summer months. But we did get a lot of work done by starting this in December. By being able to do that, we got a lot of work done when the park is at its lowest use, generally. So the good news is that we are moving forward, and we are going to be able to complete the project. We know what's out there on the field. But that's kind of one of the points to make here.

So, as I said, delays for weather and unforeseen issues. We'll go into a couple of the unforeseen issues.

Just real quick.

So you've seen these tables before. These were part of a presentation that Jonathan Goldman did back when we received the contract from Integra for the project. Their original initial base bid was $2.175 million. They also had two alternates there for $285,000 and $85,000. We, at the time, did not authorize the alternates. So we only authorized the base bid of $2.175 million.

At that same time, Jonathan expressed that there were going to be other items that we knew we wanted to add into the project that were not included in the 2.175, and those are listed here. Some of these were estimates at the time, but some of them were pretty close numbers like the restroom and trash enclosure, and some of the other pieces that we had some numbers for.

So you'll see there that at that time, he suggested that there would have to be a minimum of $477,000 in order to deliver these other items here.

At the time, we showed you where the funding was coming from. COP, $1.3 million.

The Cal Recycle Grant was originally, or the Measure O funds, that was a line item for Measure O.

And that originally had $612,000 in it We were awarded the CalRecycle Grant of 750, so that's been removed. And so that's changed the total down below.

Then we also have Measure O funding, Parking Fund, Tidal Lands Fund, for a total project budget of $2.79.

So now we're at today. So there's a lot of information on this, but a lot of these numbers are the same ones that you just saw.

$2.175 million for the base bin infrastructure. Now you start moving down below that restroom pad and restroom. Those are the ROM tech ones. We've just broken out those costs.

but those are essentially the same numbers that you had. There was a slight increase of about $3,000 because it's now 2019.

We have worked with the contractor to get a proposal for installing irrigation over the entire site. That's that number of 183. That will be for the entire site.

And so that gives us a construction total right now of things that you've seen already of $2.6 million.

Thank you.

We also want to Put in trees, planting, and furniture. As we discussed, that was going to be one of the pieces of the project. So we have a number here for trees and planting of those trees of $100,000.

$25,000 for the purchase of additional plant material.

Hydro seeding is included in the base bid, so keep that in mind. This is for plants and shrubs that go along the shoreline and other areas.

And we also have in here a number of 19,000, which was originally presented by Jonathan, for the purchase of furniture, signage. So this is going to be for a couple of picnic benches and some other items.

So we have a grand total right now, construction budget of two, 2,772,488. Going back to our last slide.

we have a budget of $2,790,000.

We're close on what we've said we were going to deliver and where we're at today.

We do have change orders, though, and we do have some additional construction administration services that we need to complete the project. Very top number of additional design and construction administrative services, that's we're requesting $76,000 to cover design services from the contractor.

I'm sorry, for the designer, our environmental consultant, PG&E engineering for some electrical work that we're placing out there. So we're asking for that number there.

We also have some change orders that are listed here.

Right now, the first two of 8,000 and 4,400, those are firm numbers. The numbers down below are estimates at this time.

although we do have some high confidence that the numbers are about that level.

As you can see, we found more railroad ties underneath the park surface We're gonna have to do a little bit, this cofferdam installs for installing our storm drain into the water, it was a condition that was given to us by the Corps of Engineers.

after we had awarded the contract.

We have some subsurface preparation. You'll see that that's kind of a big number.

As you recall, the Dumpy Park is a trash, old trash burn dump. So what we discovered that when we started doing the excavation for the parking lot area, is that as we got down, we were finding some of that trash material, which is not suitable for using as a subgrade material. Plus, we were getting down into groundwater. So we've had to make a revision to the detail, the section of how you do sub-grade preparation and then the asphalt above that for the parking lot. So we just actually recently got back the number from the contractor because we had to have that section redesigned by our civil engineer. We just recently have that. It's partly why you've seen the parking lot area not change a lot in the last few weeks. It's because we discovered this condition and now we've been trying to come up with a solution for it.

Um, Sheet piles, removal, demo, we have that as a number right now. We are working with interested parties to take those sheet piles.

but they're extremely difficult to move.

But they are very valuable to somebody who can use them. We do have an identified person for that We're trying to work out how to get those over there and off of our site But there is a possibility that we may not be able to utilize them and they'll have to be destroyed So that's just a placeholder at this time So now we're getting to what we're requesting of the council.

Again, we had an original approved budget, $2,790,000.

We have the base and infrastructure numbers, so if you go back to those, tables, you'll see that those numbers all match up.

of $2,628,000.

We have the trees, planting, and furniture items, which is $144,000. And then we have the currently understood change orders of $178,900. So what we're asking Council to approve tonight is this augmentation request of $161,000 to deliver these items.
05:24:44.77 Lauren Items that are currently not included still are included. Can I ask you a question? Sure, of course. Sorry.
05:24:47.65 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Can I ask a question? Sure, of course. Lauren, can you just go back to the last slide? So items, current budget augmentation in the approved budget, that includes the restroom and trash enclosures.
05:24:59.31 Lauren That's correct.
05:24:59.38 Susan Cleveland-Knowles THE END OF THE END OF THE Okay, so that's already, that is not something we're being requested to approve.
05:25:00.88 Lauren Thank you.
05:25:06.97 Lauren Correct. It's in that first number that Jonathan presented to you that established the original budget. Okay. And it's also included in this $2,628,000. What you're asking to be, what I'm asking of you today, staff is recommending, is that you allow us to enter into that agreement with RomTech in order for them to start the process out.
05:25:12.17 Keith Kennedy you
05:25:12.24 Susan Cleveland-Knowles .
05:25:12.42 Keith Kennedy Yeah.
05:25:19.88 Unknown Thank you.
05:25:19.90 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
05:25:19.92 Unknown Yes.
05:25:27.54 Bonnie Walters Okay, all right, thank you. May I ask a question?
05:25:30.97 Joan Cox Thank you.
05:25:31.10 Bonnie Walters you
05:25:31.31 Adrian Brinton you
05:25:31.36 Joan Cox Where is the augmentation money coming from?
05:25:35.59 Lauren So the augmentation money can come from, as was already discussed, Measure O funds. Let's see if I have a slide.
05:25:40.18 Mayor Burns Oh, five?
05:25:48.40 Lauren So I don't have a slide for that. But originally, the $612,000 was included in this project budget for Measure O funds. The council at the time-
05:26:00.35 Joan Cox Right, we substituted out 750 for the Cal Recycle.
05:26:02.14 Lauren for the Cal recycle. There is that money that is available. You can, if you get down to the end here and you can take a look at these, you can tell us to go find another location for it we will continue to work with mike langford and parks and rec department to try to identify outside funding sources for this Um, We can look for it in the budget, you know, in the future budgets. But right now, what we're asking, what appears to make the most sense is the use of that measure of funds.
05:26:28.94 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
05:26:34.78 Lauren Going back to this number, I just want to, or this page, I just want to show you a couple The ad alternates are not included, and we'll go and I'll show you that on another slide of what that actually includes, but that is the ad alternate for additional paving. It's been referred to by some people.

names, and then the Bocce Court lighting of $85,000. And then also, to do the full scope of the additional plant of the planting on the site, it looks like we could use another, I'm...

$35,000 to do the full scope of that planting, although we can look towards the community for help on that, or council may decide to try to find the funds for that. So right now, these items are not included on any of the previous numbers that I showed you.

And here's what we have as the proposed actions.

But let me go to this question again, or this page here. And you can see again, this is something that was presented to you by Jonathan, shows what is included in the contract, what's not included in the contract. And that really hasn't changed that lower pathway.

Um, which has been referred to in a couple of different ways.
05:27:44.74 Adam Politzer Lauren, can I just interrupt you for a second? Just going back to Councilmember Cox's question. If you go back to the staff report, so it's not in his presentation.

but under the fiscal impact there's a recommendation that if you choose to approved the amount of 161,388 to cover the additional cost of Dumpy Park, and you still send 150,000 over to Southview Park, which was part of that proposal, it leaves you with a balance of measure of funds of $300,066. So if you approve what's being recommended by staff, it leaves you a balance of 366,000, which is similar to what we stated.
05:28:28.01 Susan Cleveland-Knowles What page are you on?
05:28:29.32 Lauren That is on the last page of the staff report.
05:28:29.39 Adam Politzer That is.
05:28:33.88 Adam Politzer under fiscal impact.

the second to last paragraph.
05:28:39.21 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Oh, it's on the second to last page.
05:28:47.58 Adam Politzer If council recalls when we approved the budget for Southview Park, it was with the recommendation that money left over from that $612,000, a portion of that would go to Southview Park, which we're indicating was $150,000. So the combination of the $161,000 that we're requesting for Dunphy plus the $150,000 for Southview still leaves you with a balance of $300,000. When did we do Southview? And some change. Yes.
05:29:05.28 Louis Rafa Thank you.
05:29:05.30 Adrian Brinton I think it's a selfie.

I don't know.

Thank you.
05:29:11.68 David Sudo Thank you.
05:29:12.03 Carolyn Revell Thank you.
05:29:21.75 Adam Politzer It's still not particularly.

you
05:29:23.47 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
05:29:23.59 Lauren I THINK I'M GOING TO BE
05:29:23.98 Adam Politzer Yes.
05:29:24.08 Adrian Brinton Yes.
05:29:24.32 Lauren Right.
05:29:24.33 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
05:29:28.23 Adrian Brinton Right.
05:29:28.89 Lauren So that pretty much concludes the presentation at this point. If there's any questions, I'm here to answer them. And, again, thanks for taking the time to stick around for this. One more question. Thank you. Any other questions?
05:29:40.11 Joan Cox Thank you.
05:29:40.21 Adrian Brinton Question.
05:29:40.72 Joan Cox Thank you.

Yeah.
05:29:41.38 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
05:29:41.41 Joan Cox Thank you.

Are you contemplating tree naming or bench naming rights as another possible source of revenue?
05:29:52.18 Lauren I'll let Mike.
05:29:55.72 Mike Langford Short answer, yes. The city has a bench policy already in place where we have benches. Yeah. And we are going to be pursuing that once we know that we will have benches.
05:29:57.48 Joan Cox Yeah.

bench.

Yeah.
05:30:06.30 Joan Cox Thanks.
05:30:08.46 Mayor Burns Any other questions?

I have one.

The SCAR path. Yes.

There's another one. Isn't there another one that goes to the bocce?
05:30:23.67 Lauren Yeah, so this path right here is this line right here, and then this path that goes there. My hands are all wiggly right here. So it's this path right in here that goes towards the Bocce courts, and this path.
05:30:35.40 Mayor Burns We did have the original plan, we always had a path at the front, correct?

this one.
05:30:42.11 Lauren Thank you.
05:30:42.99 Mayor Burns Well, we have the sidewalk here.

This was,
05:30:45.49 Lauren This was an element that-
05:30:45.55 Mayor Burns This was, The Pressure.

from the concept.

to a more working plan.

And I never really liked that.

that.

This one, right. Yeah.
05:31:02.58 Louis Rafa Which one, the little one?
05:31:04.35 Mayor Burns The one that goes from the parking lot up to Bocce, it's a red line.

It is.
05:31:09.55 David Sudo Yes.
05:31:10.12 Mayor Burns Yes, that one. That was not in the original conceptual plans.
05:31:11.78 David Sudo That was not.
05:31:12.32 Lauren Thank you.
05:31:12.42 David Sudo Thank you.
05:31:14.22 Lauren Right. Both of these were added in order to, you know, provide a walking space on the inside of the park. If you were walking, you know, along bridgeway, you could actually take it in and walk on the inside. And then by tying this in together, you have this opportunity for the parking area and tie all this in together. But both of those combined to the 285.
05:31:34.58 Mayor Burns you Thank you.
05:31:34.95 Lauren That's correct.
05:31:35.72 Mayor Burns Thank you.
05:31:38.61 Adam Politzer And we're not recommending moving forward with that phase but obviously if the council down downstream would like.

too.

put that in.
05:31:49.33 Mayor Burns We can reconsider how we even look at it.
05:31:50.98 Adam Politzer Right. And it wouldn't impact the quality of the, of the park. If we opened without it, obviously it'd be similar to what it is today in terms of there's no interior.
05:31:50.99 Mayor Burns Thank you.
05:31:59.97 Adam Politzer One item that Lauren mentioned at the beginning, but we didn't circle back at the end, which is if the council does want to move forward with the lighting, right now it's identified as $85,000 as a second phase option. We can either reconsider that during the budget process, or you can give us direction because, again, you have a balance of $300,000 a measure of money.

if you want to move forward with the lighting.

Thank you.

We're recommending that you strongly consider that either option, give us direction tonight or have it as part of it. But once the project is done, just like MLK and just like the trees and the pickleball, the same desire, we want to check the box and be done because the likelihood of us really going back and doing significant work in the future is going to be competing with all the other projects that will continue to pile pile up in front of the council so you know the opportunity to be either tonight or through the budget process to do the lighting similar to the direction we got with pickleball gives the park, like here at Robin Tweeney, a safe, place for people to walk through.

during that five o'clock hour during the winter.

when people are still out and about, and then obviously the Bochy Ball courts would be lit for the same purpose.
05:33:35.97 Joan Cox I have one more question, Joe.

What is your ETA now? It's not in the staff report. Correct. It was May.
05:33:41.66 Lauren Correct. It was May.

We're still working with the contractor. He's put together a request for days based upon the weather. We're reviewing that right now.

We want to be substantially complete with the park by July 4th. Now, what that means is that you'll be able to look at the park
05:34:02.17 Joan Cox Right.
05:34:02.45 Lauren and see what it looks like.
05:34:02.92 Joan Cox SEE WHAT
05:34:04.87 Lauren Right.
05:34:04.98 Joan Cox Right, but we won't be able to walk or use it because the grass will be still.
05:34:08.81 Lauren It's the same issue of we have to hydro seed. That takes a period of time for it to establish. Walking on it in the very beginning is
05:34:09.79 Joan Cox Exactly.
05:34:15.99 Joan Cox OK.

Okay.
05:34:18.30 Lauren but you'll be able to see what the part was.
05:34:20.31 Joan Cox OK, great. Thank you.
05:34:21.76 Lauren You can't touch it quite yet, but it'll look great. But that's the goal, is we're still trying to put in all these elements that you will see as a substantial equation.
05:34:32.15 Mayor Burns Any other questions? And you can park it.

open up public comment I have one Ruthie any other public comment on the dumpy plan Ruthie.
05:34:48.30 Louis Rafa Hello, I'm Ruthie Haneda. I am a mother of a soon-to-be two-year-old. I am also a part of the Sausalito Mamas Club. And when I first started being in the club, we had just a small handful of moms. And now we have almost 100 moms in the group.

and the main consensus between what we're seeing with all the parks, everything going on in the city.

We're seeing that with Robin Sweeney Park.

There are a mix of older children and younger children.

And what we would like to see at Dunphy Park, which we don't see in the plan currently, is some sort of play structure that can be for older children.

Because what we're finding is a lot of the moms are noticing when their young children are there and there's little tiny toddlers and babies, there's also a bunch of older children, and they're climbing up on play structures that are there and, kind of getting in the way of the little ones, and that's what they're concerned about and also just to have something there at Dunphy Park where When you're playing bocce or when you're hanging out, the kids can go play and they have something that's there for them.

I believe aesthetically, Sausalito is really great for adults.

There are a lot of really cool elements that are for children kind of spaced sporadically throughout the city.

I do really believe that having a play structure at Dunphy would be really beneficial for a lot of people.

I would love to see Sausalito become the ultimate parent town for families, everyone to come together and not have to drive so far to go to a really cool park. Dunphy is amazing. We have all those fairs and festivals that come there and all the music that's there. I think that having that play structure there would be really helpful to just kind of get hone it in, bring everyone there, and have a place for the older kids to go because Robin Sweeney is a little bit crowded sometimes, especially during that after-school hour. And it would also help for people like us, the mamas in the group, to have a place where we could kind of congregate and then have our children there where they could have something to do in the meantime as well.
05:37:23.35 Mayor Burns Thank you.
05:37:23.75 Louis Rafa Thank you.
05:37:24.11 Mayor Burns Thank you.
05:37:24.12 Louis Rafa Thank you.
05:37:24.14 Mayor Burns Thank you.

other comment seen that I'll bring it up here for comment and Motion.
05:37:34.10 Joan Cox So it sounds as though the city manager is asking that we add to the recommended motion.

A third element to authorize the expenditure of the $85,000 for bocce lighting out of the $300,000 fund balance in the measure O.
05:37:55.34 Mayor Burns And not just bocce lighting, but fairly much path lighting in that area as well. At least through the bathroom area. Let's confirm that.
05:38:04.64 Lauren Yeah, the Bosche lighting is specific that there are locations around the Bosche courts. Those are specific lighting for that area. There's lighting in the parking lot that is part of the base contract. So it's just specifically some lights.
05:38:11.81 Adam Politzer Thank you.
05:38:11.83 Mayor Burns Thank you.
05:38:11.95 Louis Rafa Thank you.
05:38:17.33 Mayor Burns Okay.

Just for the Bocce planes. Okay.
05:38:23.44 Adam Politzer Nothing related to the walking paths
05:38:27.98 Lauren Correct. There is no lighting on the walking paths. There is lighting in the parking lot areas.

and in the bocce.
05:38:36.86 Joan Cox This is the additive alternate number two, install Bocce lights $85,500.

Thank you.

That's it.
05:38:45.82 Adam Politzer Yeah, I misled because I thought that it may include some of the additional lighting like we have at Robin Sweeney.
05:38:53.46 Susan Cleveland-Knowles So, is this the time to comment? Yes. Okay. So, thank you, great work.
05:38:57.26 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
05:39:00.99 Susan Cleveland-Knowles It's really exciting. So generally, I'm in favor of the proposed motion tonight. Can we go back to that list actually?

and really excited about the fact that the bathrooms are already included, so that's great.

I, I would probably take the recommendation of the city manager the second option, which is to hold off to our budget discussion, keep it as a priority. But I would like to be careful about Measure O funds as we're looking at Southview and other issues in our budget. So I'd kind of like to.

look at it at that point instead of tonight and i also like to hear maybe more feedback another time maybe at the rec park commission or just some community outreach about how folks feel about that lighting how important they feel it is um if they feel like it's really important then i do agree that if we let it go now, it's unlikely to come back as an item. But I would not feel comfortable moving forward with that tonight, given all the other expenditures that we've agreed to this evening. But that's just, I mean, I'm not opposed strongly if other people have other ideas. And then I just want to thank Ruthie for coming down. And, you know, I made that same comment a long time ago, maybe at the Planning Commission, about Dunphy Park being a great bigger space for bigger play equipment that you just cannot fit here. So that's something I think it would be great for staff to take a second look at now that we're further along to see if there is any space for programming that at Dunphy. I know in the past that it was felt that it interfered with kind of some of the open space for larger events. But I also do feel like there are so many kids that come to Fourthth of July and to chili cook off you know that don't have a natural place to congregate when we don't have our volleyball court anymore I don't think so maybe equivalent amount of space. In any case, I think it's an idea at least to re-look at from my perspective.
05:41:26.92 Unknown In the comments.
05:41:27.31 Mayor Burns THE END OF
05:41:28.93 Jill Hoffman Sure, I'll just echo, I'm thinking along the same lines as Councilmember Cleveland Knowles that I agree, I support the augment budget for 161,000.

388 I would like to be cautious about the bocce ball courts for the same reasons and the lighting. I know a lot of people are also concerned about light.

you know light pollution and things that happen at night and that is right on the water so I mean, same, I'm not strongly opposed to it, but I think we need to look at that a little bit more.

And same for the place structure, if we can find a place that doesn't interfere, I mean, it's something to think about, right, and to look at. Again, I'm not opposed to it. I know that there are concerns about the open space. There's concerns about the passive areas for the kind of the wildlife passive area, which is why we moved the bocce courts, right, the whole. Somebody wouldn't want to put it over there. But anyway, those are my thoughts.
05:42:27.52 Joan Cox My only concern about delaying the action on the lighting is that our budget process ends with the fiscal year at the end of June.

And this project is projected to be done by July 4.

And so.

If the lights are not incorporated as part of the project, do you have to dig stuff up in order to put them in later, or is it more expensive?
05:42:50.08 Lauren It's never preferable to come back and do it later. We are installing is conduits in the ground so that if we do need to pull those, we can pull the conductors and we can add the lighting. But you bring contractors out there, having to work on the pathways and around the Bocci Bowl courts, it's obviously preferable to do it while we're in construction now than to do it up
05:43:15.68 Joan Cox And I just as someone who's out there, for various reasons at various times of day.

It certainly did not feel safe to me to be anywhere not close to Galilee, or the cruising club, after dusk.

So I'm hugely in favor of additional lighting out there.

Um, as a safety measure just as a single person who finds myself there on business from time to time.

Those are my thoughts on the lighting.

I, you know, I think we should always be looking at programming and what's appropriate to the current need and what we have.

the money and the and the space for. So I think that's something Park and Rec can revisit as it deems fit and come back I guess it would have to go back to the Planning Commission and then back to us for approval but i have no objection if if that's something that our residents are interested in
05:44:24.26 Mayor Burns in the world.

I think it's all in the plan, isn't it? Huh? It's not in the plan.
05:44:27.01 Joan Cox .

It's not in the plan, it was considered at the time this plan was programmed and it was not adopted at that time.

I forgot to delay it.
05:44:40.66 Adam Politzer But, you know, during that whole conceptual and the community outreach that the Friends of Dunphy Park did, and then obviously through the Park and Rec Commission and Planning Commission, they looked purposely at Dunphy Park as being more passive. And as our speakers shared, you know, the activity would be here at Robin Sweeney.

The other feedback we got was that we needed space for the older kids, so Southview Park then looked to have equipment there for the older kids. Obviously we have upgrades at Marianne Sears Park and then the new playground at MLK.
05:45:09.69 Louis Rafa Thank you.

I'm thinking of my comments.
05:45:20.40 Adam Politzer from the Friends of Dumpy Park's perspective, this should be a place where creative play isn't is is inspired versus you got to put another jungle gym up that may or may not be used
05:45:33.99 Mayor Burns That was really my comment. And we also talked about play structure as a visual between the street and the water, which we're creating at Dunphy. At the time we were planning Dunphy, we were working on Casno, we just created Mary Ann Sears. We had the $1.4 million play structure over here. So, I mean, that's the reason it wasn't put in, and a lot of the reasons. But to look at it in the future, I think it's a great idea. And I support everything that you guys have said as far as the other orders.

I'm a little...

First of all, don't be in the park at night because the clothes is at dusk.

As we heard, our parks closed at dusk.
05:46:08.30 Joan Cox No, but I walk along, but you still walk along the outskirts.
05:46:09.88 Mayor Burns But the $85,000 for a couple of- And you have to show up at 5 a.m. for the chili cook off for heaven's sakes. But this won't help you. $85,000 for a couple hours of bocce is
05:46:14.17 Joan Cox Then you have to show up at 5 a.m.
05:46:23.16 Mayor Burns You know, that's a lot of money. So I'm not saying that I wouldn't...

do it in the future, but we're just talking about 90 for full time use of a daytime activity. And 85 for, you know, what do they finish an hour into the desk at night?

That's a scheduling issue. I don't know if we need nighttime
05:46:44.90 Lauren Thank you.

If I may, if you take a look at the basketball courts here at City Hall, you get quite a bit of use. Oh, I completely agree. Great hand. I mean, having those lights there is definitely a benefit to the community because people do use that after they come home from work.
05:46:50.99 Mayor Burns Yeah.

I completely agree. Great hand.
05:47:03.09 Mayor Burns And I agree with that, and this is a different setting than the park, but I'm not saying I don't want lights out there and I don't think Bocci should happen. I'm just saying if, you know, $85,000 for that is a lot. Yes. And, um, I'm sorry.
05:47:16.37 Jill Hoffman When we were doing all of the The community outreach for Dumpy Park and the concept and all of that.

Did we talk about lighting?
05:47:24.65 Mike Langford Thank you.
05:47:24.67 Jill Hoffman of the bocce courts.
05:47:24.69 Adrian Brinton of the bocce courts.
05:47:25.87 Joan Cox Thank you.
05:47:26.24 Mike Langford Thank you.
05:47:26.49 Joan Cox That's why it's in the bid. It's an additive alternate in the original bid.
05:47:30.31 Mike Langford Yes, it was very...
05:47:30.34 Joan Cox Yes.
05:47:32.32 Mike Langford The bocce players are very vocal about it. In fact, right now to get in some of our leagues, we take a portable trailer light out there and play under the lights. Prior to that, the bocce players would take all their cars and point the headlights at the courts in order to get in all the games. Those are 32 teams.
05:47:51.25 Joan Cox And we have a third court now.
05:47:51.96 Unknown with the
05:47:52.03 Mike Langford third court now.
05:47:52.92 Unknown Thank you.

Yeah, that's amazing.
05:47:56.08 Joan Cox We have a third court and people line up, I mean to sign up. You have to get here early just to sign up and get a spot on a team.
05:48:07.40 Lauren Great.

Very briefly, before you consider the motion, just wanted to give you an update on Southview very briefly. We are still planning on working on that project. We're going to get started on that project in June. It is the same contractor. We came before you before we got approvals for that. So that's all in place. Same contractor that's working on Dunphy. So once we're able to kind of phase them off of this one, we're going to move them up to theirs. But that's projects on Schedule 2.

Yes.
05:48:33.89 Jill Hoffman Lauren, how many days will that one take?
05:48:35.73 Lauren I believe that we have 90 calendar days for that. So that's approximately a three-month.
05:48:35.83 Jill Hoffman I believe Thank you.

Thank you.
05:48:41.66 Joan Cox So we've got to get that done before the rain.
05:48:41.89 Lauren Thank you.
05:48:44.36 Joan Cox From July 4, August, September, October, you're barely done before the rainy season.
05:48:45.17 Lauren Yes.

.

Correct. We'll be able to get a lot of that, you know, the heavy work, which is the breaking up of the tennis course and redoing that. Those will be some of the first things that we do. So that's the time to do it.

not in say December when we started this week.
05:49:05.15 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Well, this is a lot of work and all really great. I think it's going to be really exciting.
05:49:14.54 Mayor Burns I'm willing to hear a motion.
05:49:14.70 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
05:49:14.71 Joan Cox So.

Bye.

I move we adopt a resolution authorizing the city manager to execute an agreement with RomTech for the construction of the restroom and trash enclosure for the bid amount of $270,036. And appropriate dollars and appropriate additional funds in the amount of $161,388. In order to cover the cost of necessary additional design and construction administration services.

and change orders due to unforeseen conditions after work.

Thank you.
05:49:43.54 Mayor Burns comments.
05:49:44.47 Joan Cox Thank you.
05:49:46.05 Mayor Burns All in favor? Aye. That passes 4-0.
05:49:47.01 Joan Cox I am.
05:49:50.46 Mayor Burns Thank you.
05:49:51.76 Joan Cox And I would like to direct staff to bring back to us the lighting proposal as part of our budget process. Yeah, absolutely.
05:49:59.52 Lauren Yeah, absolutely. We'll try to do that for the next meeting if it all wants.
05:50:08.43 Mayor Burns Next up we have our round of eights, our city manager report. Is there any public comment on items 8B through 8E? Any public comment on 8B through 8E? Seeing none, city manager report.
05:50:25.08 Adam Politzer At this late hour, I have nothing to add but happy to answer any questions from the council.
05:50:25.35 Mayor Burns THE END OF THE END OF THE
05:50:32.96 Mayor Burns We're going to we got to work on that.
05:50:37.30 Mayor Burns Great. So H. C. appointments to boards. We did hear from 2 P-back interviewees tonight. We have one spot open, and one person was not able to make the meeting tonight, so we can interview that person.
05:50:58.36 Joan Cox We did already interview him for GBAC.
05:51:00.98 Mayor Burns And there was another person who I believe is,
05:51:06.28 Joan Cox So we got a late mail from Serge telling us there are three, Randy Brown, Jordan Hosmer, and
05:51:15.05 Adrian Brinton Thank you.
05:51:15.74 Unknown Thank you.
05:51:15.84 Joan Cox Regan Fulton.
05:51:15.86 Unknown Regan Fulton.

Thank you.
05:51:16.92 Mayor Burns Thank you.
05:51:16.94 Unknown Yeah, I got that.
05:51:17.97 Mayor Burns but who did we?

Who was, didn't make it tonight, Serge?

and what spot was she for?
05:51:28.26 City Clerk (Unknown) She was wanting to be interviewed for GPAC. For PBAC.
05:51:33.76 Mayor Burns For feedback. Right. So that's what I was getting to was, so one person has not been interviewed yet of applications we have.

Thank you.
05:51:39.53 Unknown I thought she was out of the area.
05:51:40.87 City Clerk (Unknown) She is out of the area. She said to retry her again at a future time.
05:51:48.53 Bonnie Walters Thank you.
05:51:48.55 Joan Cox So she's withdrawn?
05:51:49.93 Mayor Burns No, one, Joan, one was-
05:51:51.15 Joan Cox I'm going to go.

One was one. I was trying to listen to Serge and listen to you, sorry.
05:51:55.72 Mayor Burns One was here for disaster prep. She lived outside of the city limits. OK. Another one did not have, was not available tonight to interview.
05:52:00.06 Joan Cox Okay.
05:52:00.38 Unknown Thank you.
05:52:05.71 Mayor Burns okay so we still have a interviewee if we want or I can make a motion for somebody at this point and if they don't get a second on the motion then that means
05:52:05.72 Unknown Okay.
05:52:05.98 Louis Rafa THE END OF THE END OF THE
05:52:14.58 Mayor Burns that we will.
05:52:15.24 Joan Cox I would like to hear your motion.
05:52:16.46 Mayor Burns I'm going to nominate Regan Fulton for the...
05:52:18.74 Joan Cox Second.
05:52:19.28 Mayor Burns feedback.

I have a motion and a second.
05:52:21.03 Joan Cox So I have a motion and a motion.
05:52:23.73 Mayor Burns All in favor, or is there any other nominations?
05:52:25.71 Joan Cox Well, and we're going to move We're going to move somebody into the alternate.

We're We're moving alternate member Bjorn Gripenberg to full member.
05:52:37.47 Mayor Burns No, Bjorn is a representative of MCBC. This is replacing Russ Irwin's resignation. So it is, it's actually leaving us still without a, um, alternate.
05:52:52.99 Joan Cox Okay, this says that with Russ Irwin's resignation, alternate member Bjorn Gripenberg was moved into a full member position in order to fill her term through February 2021.
05:53:04.60 City Clerk (Unknown) That is correct.
05:53:07.98 Mayor Burns Bjorn has not been an alternate, he has been on as a liaison to the MCBC. We previously had Alex Frankel resign and we moved Erin from alternate into Alex Frankel's spot and we had a full commission without a alternate. Okay. And now we have Russ Irwin resignation, so we're putting in a full member and my suggestion would be that we then later look for an alternate when we get a pattern of
05:53:37.04 Joan Cox I take your word. So that's just not what the staff recommendation says. But let's correct it. So I-
05:53:37.05 Mayor Burns I take your.
05:53:41.26 Mayor Burns Yes.
05:53:41.81 Adrian Brinton Bye.

you
05:53:44.53 Mayor Burns I don't know where it came from.
05:53:46.47 Joan Cox There's a motion and a second to appoint Regan Fulton as a member.
05:53:51.67 Mayor Burns And there's no other nominations, seeing none. I'll take a vote.
05:53:57.00 Adrian Brinton Don't we?
05:53:57.88 Mayor Burns Aye. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye.
05:54:06.87 Mayor Burns Future agenda items.
05:54:08.00 Susan Cleveland-Knowles So it's our expectation that Regan is a full member
05:54:12.64 Mayor Burns Yes.
05:54:13.10 Joan Cox you
05:54:13.49 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay, and that Bjorn is the designated member from the Bike Coalition, and that we'll have an alternate still, so that Doretta can be interviewed for that.
05:54:13.97 Joan Cox and that we will.
05:54:14.89 Mayor Burns Thank you.
05:54:20.42 Mayor Burns Thank you.
05:54:20.46 Jill Hoffman to be appointed.
05:54:23.44 Susan Cleveland-Knowles you
05:54:23.53 Mayor Burns Yes.
05:54:23.85 Susan Cleveland-Knowles you at some point. Okay, great.
05:54:26.97 Jill Hoffman we appoint somebody now as the alternate i mean do we have to wait to do interviews for alternates or can we just point somebody we've already interviewed
05:54:27.86 Susan Cleveland-Knowles No?
05:54:35.42 Mayor Burns No, we can appoint somebody.
05:54:41.45 Jill Hoffman Okay, I'm saying that.

Thank you.
05:54:44.00 Adrian Brinton I...
05:54:44.60 Jill Hoffman you I don't have a list of people that we've interviewed. Are all the people that we've interviewed the people that we interviewed tonight?
05:54:50.51 Joan Cox Or have we?
05:54:51.29 Jill Hoffman I interviewed Randy
05:54:51.98 Joan Cox around.
05:54:52.70 Jill Hoffman I mean, I think.
05:54:52.84 Joan Cox THE FAMILY.

a GPAC who also was interested in PBAC.
05:54:53.95 Jill Hoffman Yeah.

Okay.
05:54:56.67 Joan Cox And tonight we also interviewed Jordan Hosmer.

Okay.
05:55:01.44 Jill Hoffman Okay.
05:55:01.83 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Thank you.
05:55:01.95 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
05:55:01.97 Susan Cleveland-Knowles you
05:55:02.17 Jill Hoffman you
05:55:02.47 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Go ahead.
05:55:02.85 Jill Hoffman Thank you.
05:55:04.84 Susan Cleveland-Knowles I prefer to wait.

Me too.

And let's see if we have.
05:55:08.90 Bonnie Walters Thank you.
05:55:08.92 Susan Cleveland-Knowles Okay, that's fine.
05:55:15.25 Mayor Burns future agenda items, anything that we haven't heard tonight that we'd like to put on the agenda.
05:55:21.86 Joan Cox I'll just note, I think our renewal of emergency declaration is going to be heard on the 14th, not on the 28th.
05:55:28.55 Unknown Okay.
05:55:34.32 Mayor Burns Thank you.

Seeing no others, any other reports of significance? Seeing others, I adjourn as at 1255.