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| 00:00:00.79 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. . Bye. . you I'm going to go. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:00:30.68 | Unknown | is better than elephants. |
| 00:00:31.00 | Councilmember Hoffman | you |
| 00:00:32.28 | Unknown | Elephants dancing is better than clowns. Song parade, better than peanuts. |
| 00:00:44.97 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | one little official act. Thank you. |
| 00:00:48.90 | Mayor Burns | All right. |
| 00:00:49.00 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Right. Thank you. |
| 00:00:50.23 | Mayor Burns | I'm going to call this meeting to order at 6 PM. Serge, please take a roll call. |
| 00:00:58.32 | City Clerk | Councilmember Cox. Thank you. |
| 00:00:59.80 | Jill Hoffman | here. |
| 00:01:00.19 | City Clerk | Thank you. Councilmember Hoffman. |
| 00:01:01.88 | Jill Hoffman | PRESENTLY. |
| 00:01:02.64 | City Clerk | Councilmember Withey. Here. Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles. Here. THE CITY IS A |
| 00:01:07.03 | Mayor Burns | THE FAMILY. |
| 00:01:07.11 | City Clerk | Burns. |
| 00:01:07.58 | Mayor Burns | Here. We are going to be going into conference, closed session on four items. We'll be able to make it five items. We have conference with labor negotiators pursuant to section 54957.6. Conference with legal counsel anticipated litigation, initiation of litigation pursuant to paragraph four of subdivision D of section 54956.9. Number three, conference with legal counsel, existing litigation pursuant to paragraph one of subdivision D of section 54956.9, one potential case. and for conference with real property negotiator pursuant to What is CGC again? That's California Government Code 54956.8. And then finally, item five, conference with real property negotiator pursuant to California Government Code 54956.8. |
| 00:01:50.53 | Lisa Chilino | California |
| 00:02:03.13 | Councilmember Cox | And Mr. Mayor, I'll be recusing myself from item number five. |
| 00:02:06.73 | Mayor Burns | And that is number five on MLK. Thank you, Joan. Is there any public comment on any of these items? On public comment on closed session, seeing none, closed public comment, and we will be back in an hour. |
| 00:02:29.22 | Adam Politzer | Thanks, Lisa. Thank you. |
| 00:02:31.82 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:02:31.87 | Ray Withey | I'd like this has ever happened to you before. As up go the lights, out go the flags. On come the dancers, bang goes the drum and you're in love. |
| 00:02:43.87 | Unknown | Lady in pink tights flew high above our head. |
| 00:02:43.90 | Ray Withey | Canadian |
| 00:02:51.63 | Unknown | as I sat there, watching. I had the feeling that something was missing. I don't know what, but... When it was all over. and myself. Is that all there is to this? Is that? Oh, there is. Is that all there is? If that's all there is, my friend Then let's keep dancing Let's break out the... |
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| 00:03:54.61 | Councilmember Hoffman | . . . Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:04:12.94 | Unknown | Beautiful love. |
| 00:04:17.24 | Unknown | You are. |
| 00:04:26.18 | Unknown | Beautiful love. |
| 00:04:36.07 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:04:40.49 | Unknown | I was contented. you Till you can. you |
| 00:04:46.97 | Councilmember Hoffman | alone. |
| 00:04:54.69 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thrilling my soul. |
| 00:05:09.99 | Unknown | Beautiful love. |
| 00:05:22.92 | Unknown | Searching for love. My dream. |
| 00:05:29.67 | Councilmember Hoffman | you |
| 00:05:29.94 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:05:29.97 | Councilmember Hoffman | you Yes. |
| 00:05:36.25 | Councilmember Hoffman | reaching |
| 00:05:43.57 | Mayor Burns | Welcome, everybody. This is the. September. 10th. Yes, it is, September 10th meeting of the City Council. I'm going to ask for a pledge of allegiance. Steve Hoffman, please lead us. |
| 00:06:00.79 | Ray Withey | Thank you. |
| 00:06:00.87 | Kevin McGowan | you |
| 00:06:01.04 | Ray Withey | to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. |
| 00:06:14.12 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. We just came out of a closed session. We have no closed session announcements. And we are now looking, I am now looking for approval of tonight's agenda. |
| 00:06:26.33 | Councilmember Cox | so moved. |
| 00:06:28.39 | Ray Withey | Thank you. |
| 00:06:28.41 | Mayor Burns | Second. We have motion second. All in favor? Aye. That passes 5-0. |
| 00:06:31.31 | Councilmember Cox | Bye. |
| 00:06:31.94 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:06:33.69 | Mayor Burns | Special presentations, we have a couple exciting ones tonight, and I'm going to bring up our city manager to start off. |
| 00:06:44.12 | Mayor Burns | Adam Pulitzer. Adam, please speak right into the mic. Which I'm going to remind all of you tonight, we need to speak really into our microphones. He's off to a bad start. |
| 00:07:02.63 | Adam Politzer | Bye. you Yes, Mr. |
| 00:07:08.86 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 00:07:37.80 | Adam Politzer | That's helpful. You guys missed all my jokes that are watching from home. You have to turn it on then speak into it. Start over. Thank you. I like my seat over there. So just starting over with the introduction of Kevin McGowan, our Public Works Director has started at the beginning of August, or the middle of August. He was recruited by Ralph Anderson Associates, which is a recruiting firm here that does a lot of recruitment for cities up and down the state of California. |
| 00:07:43.30 | Councilmember Cox | You have to turn it on then speak into it. |
| 00:08:08.11 | Adam Politzer | Kevin graduated from Cal State University Sacramento with his bachelor's degree in civil engineering went on to receive his master's in civil engineering. and then went to work for the county of Marin. where he worked there for 20 years. in a variety of leadership positions. including the last four years, serving as their principal civil engineer. responsible for the county's capital improvement division. Kevin went on from the county to work for the past nine years as the assistant public works director for the city of San Rafael. and on two occasions he was the interim director Um, back around 2015 and 16. a variety of exciting projects with San Rafael, and that led us to this opportunity with the city of Sausalito. I'm not sure. Kevin is well known in the Public Works Department here in the county. Their monthly meetings, their division meetings, where he's been an active player with the other Public Works directors in the county. Obviously, he's a great asset to the city because he already knows the territory here in the county. Some fun facts about Kevin. said he was raised in Mill Valley. I didn't know this when I interviewed him, but he went to Redwood High School. which was my rival, I went to TAM, so I don't know if he would have made it past that question. I would have asked. bet he did. Um, And then one of the things that I thought was fun was that he was nominated by his coworkers for the Commuter of the Year for the Marine County Bike Coalition. active and avid bike rider and is known to ride his bike from san rafael to work and he's already looking forward to riding from his home to sausalito don't know if he's done it yet so so again i think a great addition to staff for our pedestrian and bike committee, someone that is an active cyclist. The other fun fact is that his grandfather was our police chief, Sausalito's police chief. in 1927 to 1930. So again, real deep roots here in our community. |
| 00:10:22.01 | Lisa Chilino | Thank you. |
| 00:10:22.03 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:10:22.43 | Lisa Chilino | Thank you. |
| 00:10:26.45 | Adam Politzer | And so again, I think that those all played well in our decision in hiring Kevin. some of the few. We do a pretty extensive background check on all of our department heads and some of the Thank you. comments that came back about his character. that folks use to describe him. right at the top of that list was experience, someone that came with a lot of experience. especially in capital projects and obviously we can use all of that help respectful someone that was respectful to the folks that he works with that he serves and to the public. Problem solver. adaptable, loyal, dedicated, patient. which I've already. See? on many occasions, even with me. and and confident and most importantly to me, an ultimate team player. Kevin and his wife and two daughters live in San Rafael, so please join me in welcoming Kevin to our team. |
| 00:11:33.29 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you, Adam. I'm quite honored to be here. I'm very excited to work for City Sausalito. In the past month or so that I've been here, it's been a bit overwhelming so far. So, but I'm pretty excited about stepping up and taking a leadership role and try to solve some of these issues and move everything forward as much as we can. So thank you very much, and I look forward to working with each one of you as much as possible. Thank you. |
| 00:11:59.65 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. Thank you. And, Kevin, I can say on behalf of the five, we are so happy that you're here. I'd say welcome to Sausalito, but you're almost like a native son anyway, given your proximity growing up. So why don't you come on up and shake our hand. We appreciate having you here. |
| 00:12:10.62 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you very much. |
| 00:12:29.40 | Mayor Burns | These are the type of meetings we like. We have a great new public works director, city engineer, and Mike Langford has an announcement as well. |
| 00:12:44.60 | Unknown | Good evening, council members. I'm running into just a little bit of a hiccup. I do have a, new staff member to introduce, but I would beg your indulgence. And if you could ask us to come up at a later time today, he should be here on his way. |
| 00:12:58.04 | Mayor Burns | today. Thank you. Glad he's still working hard. |
| 00:13:00.31 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:13:03.72 | Mayor Burns | Thanks. All right, we'll delay that and then go ahead and start our public communications. And this time of our meeting is when we open the public communications. For the city council to hear from citizens regarding matters that are not on the agenda, except in very limited situations, state law precludes the council from taking action or engaging in discussions concerning items of business that are not on the agenda. I have two cards, Annabelle and Lisa. I'll take those two. Are there any other? I see a third. Jeff Jacob, we have three. Is there anybody else who would like to speak on items not on tonight's agenda? Great. Come on up. Annabelle, you're first. You'll have three minutes, and I do encourage you to speak right into the mic so we can hear you. |
| 00:13:47.29 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:13:47.41 | Mayor Burns | I mean, |
| 00:13:48.49 | Unknown | I'm here today on behalf of various local residents and businesses in Sausalito on our desire to reinstate the two-way traffic lanes going from Marin Shipway from Testo Street through to Liberty Shipway. I do understand that that is governed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. However, I feel that it is prudent to raise this issue with the city at this time in looking at the future vision of Marinship, because that is all-inclusive I do have a petition with 271 signatures. So there is a tremendous interest in this, Thank you. I hope that you will consider assisting. the city members in our dealings with probably what's going to be a federal government screw |
| 00:14:37.08 | Mayor Burns | Okay, when you're done, you can go ahead and give that to our clerk. Okay, yeah, great. Thank you, Annabelle, and you can give that to Serge. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:14:46.96 | Unknown | Peace out. |
| 00:14:52.55 | Lisa Chilino | Mayor Burns and council members Cleveland Knowles, Cox, Hoffman, and Withy. I am... Lisa Chilino, and I'm excited to be here tonight to give you a progress report on our joint project to replant the trees at MLK Park. Our site plan has been finalized and calls for over 100 trees and shrubs of 11 different species to be planted around the perimeter of the playing fields. in conjunction with Parks and Rec director Mike Langford we have consulted with the on-site schools the fire department neighbors and the city arborist to come up with this plan Next week, we will be going to the Planning Commission, and we hope to start planting the trees this fall before the rains start. As you know, you have pledged $25,000 towards this project and Sausalito Beautiful has added 10,000 and so the remaining 15,000 needs to be raised in the community. and we invite you city council members and you the citizens of Sausalito to provide an immediate impact on the greening of Sausalito by contributing to this project. we would say that you could either donate online at SausalitoBeautiful.org or send a check to Sausalito Beautiful, P.O. Box 222, Sausalito, with a zip code of 94966. |
| 00:16:09.40 | Mary Wagner | you |
| 00:16:21.29 | Lisa Chilino | Sausalito Beautiful is grateful for donations of any size. However, we've put together what we think is a really compelling program such that you would be allowed to dedicate a specific large tree in MLK Park. In fact, recently an anonymous donor gave $500 such that a tree could be dedicated in memory of Herb Weiner. to date. To date, 20 citizens have donated over $6,500. |
| 00:16:50.91 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:16:51.01 | Lisa Chilino | Thank you. Thus, we are 44% of the way towards our target. For more information, again, go to our website, SausalitoBeautiful.org. and I want to thank you for your continued commitment to keeping Sausalito both salty and green. |
| 00:17:10.60 | Mayor Burns | Thank you, Lisa. Jeff Jacob. |
| 00:17:20.61 | Jeffrey Chase | Good evening, Mayor. Thank you. Hello, council, city workers, and citizens. I've got some good news. And I've got some better news. The good news? Which do you want first? We'll do the better news. This is for... Councilwoman Jill Hoffman. The Fair Political Practices Committee, FPPC, sent me a message saying that There was a computer glitch. the financial forms that she was required to file have now been filed. So to me, that's a success. and It's over. that I'm doing this I hope for a community out there of a hundred people but also for myself and I'm hoping for you too. MR. Right now, I'd just like to spend a few I won't make it too long, but... Schoonmaker's Marina. is required by the conditional use permit that's been signed with the city and the Marin ship specific plan. to have cleats on their dock for the public use. Specifically for mariners who are living offshore temporarily at anchor. Uh, There is. In these zoning regulations and these laws, no enforcement. We did ask the city, we petitioned, and sent letters and worked through that avenue to get those cleats put back on. When that didn't work, we filed a lawsuit. And I'm learning that, From far away sometimes the problems seem huge. And it seems like there must be forces that are malicious out there. that our working against justice. to get involved a little bit closer |
| 00:19:41.82 | Jeffrey Chase | is to get an idea that the people who are working in these very difficult and complex systems have a conscience and they can be appealed to through rationality. as well. And that I'm happy that I've gotten involved and I'm happy that you're here too. So... I hope the rest of the meeting is as good as it has been so far. Thank you. |
| 00:20:07.12 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. Any other public comment? I see no hands or other green cards. I will close our public comment. And move us to the action minutes of the previous meeting. which we have none. |
| 00:20:25.98 | Mayor Burns | So we'll now move to, nope, nope, correct, okay, good. Council member committee reports. Who would like to begin with reporting on the committees that they have attended in the last two weeks? |
| 00:20:35.03 | Jill Hoffman | I would like to begin with the community report, if that's okay. I actually have an announcement that I've discussed with the city attorney and with the city manager that may come as a surprise to some of you. So I have been notified that I'm being involuntarily called to active duty in the United States Navy. I will be performing military service for approximately ten months from the beginning of September of 2019, ending on or about July 31st of 2020 my absence from Sausalito for this period of military service is addressed and protected by the uniform services employment and reemployment act right and |
| 00:20:36.73 | Mayor Burns | That's right. |
| 00:21:11.85 | Jill Hoffman | The California Military Veterans Code, Section 395.8. My duty will be outside the United States, For purposes of safety for myself to my shipmates, I will not be able to talk about where I'm going or what I will be doing until I return. My last day on the city council prior to deployment will be will likely be September 24th. 2019 our city council meeting I believe I'll return to the City Council on or about July 31st. or as soon as I'm released from it, active duty, which may be before or after that date. My review of the California Military and Veterans Code section. indicates that I will be reinstated to my seat upon release from active duty provided the return is prior to the expiration of the term for which I was elected. which is through November of 2022. My seat will not be considered vacant, it will be considered, but the legislative body, in other words the city council, may appoint an officer to temporarily serve in my seat while I'm on active duty. If the council chooses to appoint somebody, that person will have all the powers and duties of the office that I would have entirely returned or until the expiration of my term. You might say, What would a responsible city council member who knows she's being recalled to active duty do at this point? I will tell you, I have given this matter a significant amount of thought, especially after the efforts that we went through to fill Councilmember Weiner's seat when he chose to step down. I'm going to offer some recommendations. I consider this my seat, and I'm still responsible to the people of Sausalito, who I represent even though I will be deployed. Under the Brown Act, I was able to discuss this with one other council member, which I have done. with Council Member Withey. Um, As I told Ray when I discussed this with him, I'm about to hand you a gift, which I hope that you accept with all of the grace and pleasure that I am offering it for. My recommendation is that the city council make a temporary appointment and that they appoint resident Tom Riley. for the period that I will be deployed. For those who don't know Tom, He along with his wife and son have lived in Sausalito for a number of years. Tom served on the bike and ped committee. with Patricia Pigman, Jim Henry, Ed Fodge, David Sudo, and Bob Page, and helped stand up the Sausalito Plus nonprofit that was a platform for the original Bike Ambassador Program. I have discussed this with Tom, he has graciously agreed to be considered and I announce that in my recommendations this evening. Tom has an exceptionally high confidence factor among myself, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT the council member Withy, as well as the city manager, Tifa police. and other people in our community and members of our staff who have worked with him. He has held significant leadership positions in large multinational corporations, and lucky for us, he is willing to serve in my seat and lend his exceptional talents in service to the people of Sausalito. I have personally thought deeply about who I would be, want to sit in this seat. Who is competent, what skills would they lend to the balance of people on the city council, and that's how I, came to the point where I'm nominating Tom. I cannot believe we are lucky enough to have this him agree to be considered for this position while I'm deployed. I'm deeply grateful to him and his family for making this sacrifice. I'm asking, and I've discussed all this with Mayor Withey, Former Mayor Withee, Council Member Withee. And he has agreed to support me and support these recommendations. I'm asking Mayor Burns to add The temporary appointment of a council member under the California Military and Veterans Code. to the September 24, 2020 City Council meeting And then at the end of that meeting, I believe the process will be that that our city attorney and I have discussed is that I will step down at the end of that And that. Tom, there will be a vote. for the temporary appointment. and that Tom will be appointed at that meeting I would like, if at all possible, to be in attendance for that ceremony. I'm asking the support from my fellow council members out of respect for me and my service to this great country of ours. Thank you. And that concludes that. Announcement. |
| 00:25:37.60 | Mayor Burns | Any other committees you attended you want to talk about? |
| 00:25:40.48 | Jill Hoffman | I did, yes. |
| 00:25:42.17 | Mayor Burns | You got the mic. I'm sorry, let's keep on this topic right now, Ray. |
| 00:25:45.61 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. Now we have to be careful about what we say because Mary's looking at me like this isn't agendized. |
| 00:25:51.08 | Mayor Burns | I'm sorry. |
| 00:25:51.10 | Ray Withey | I was looking at it. That's right, that was the point I wanted to make. Any of my comments here are simply in support of Councilmember Hoffman's request that this be agendized for the next meeting. We can't discuss the merits of this now, except to confirm that what she has laid out and what she would like discussed, I fully support and am behind. |
| 00:26:19.90 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you, and now onto the mud slide task force. We've met, we've talked, we met with Kevin, actually, and we had a great meeting with him. Thank you so much for taking the time. I reiterate my request that our report be put on the September 24th. I think we're going to be ready to go. |
| 00:26:40.13 | Mayor Burns | Can you tell me about what that's going to look like so we can schedule it? |
| 00:26:42.23 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, we're working, actually, yeah, we're working very hard. The idea is that, and why we had Kevin at our meeting, We're just going to talk about the conclusions sort of that we've come to about some of the causation issues or What we feel are the cause of most high risk factors for future events in Sausalito and what type of consultant we might want to hire to address those issues. And also what remedial issues we might want to take pursuant to those. Okay. And so that's what we've done. |
| 00:27:15.49 | Mayor Burns | Okay. Thank you. Thank you. And you'll clear with the city attorney on all this stuff, especially when you talk about causation of the current. |
| 00:27:20.63 | Jill Hoffman | Especially when you talk about causation of the current. Yes, yes, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, and mainly for not the current slides. This is about future and about topography and things like that. So. |
| 00:27:32.72 | Mayor Burns | So a business item, non-action. |
| 00:27:37.34 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. |
| 00:27:38.00 | Mayor Burns | And that was, we did ask to put on the 24th, so it was supposed to be on the future agenda. I don't think it's on there. |
| 00:27:39.15 | Jill Hoffman | the 24th. I don't, maybe, because we may have, or A recommendation that an RFP be extended for consultant, the type of consultant that would be within the authority that was included in the budget. |
| 00:28:03.46 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. THE FAMILY. |
| 00:28:08.34 | Ray Withey | Thank you, Mr. Mayor. A couple of things. The last few weeks have actually been taken up by a number of items that are not directly committee reports, but I'll talk about them anyway. The first is we had a delegation from Vino de Marchelli visiting. Many of us were involved in some of the aspects of that visit, which is of course always a pleasure. This is a very, very important relationship we have with our sister city. I think we continually on every visit excel. As an interesting aside, and it relates to one of the outside committees that I sit on, which is MCE Marine Clean Energy, and as we're preparing for our strategic planning session next week, it just so happened that the sister cities asked me to give a presentation to them and to the president of Chile, California and also the consul general of Chile. A presentation on marine clean energy, the development of CCAs, those are community choice aggregators of which NCE was the first. And the development of clean energy and water dynamics in the energy market, so it was my great pleasure to be able to do that to that delegation and the Council General. The second thing I want to mention, again, sort of a bit unrelated to committee reports, is the art festival. And in particular, I want to mention the fact that, as our vice mayor had explained in the last meeting, our sustainability commission had agendized and had been doing work at understanding how to enforce and what the enforcement of our single-use plastic ordinance that goes into effect in a year's time and for which at the moment there's really it's not mandatory but people are trying to figure out how it's going to work. The art festival this year decided to pilot a number of steps to try and introduce compostable and non-plastic items. And as you know, together with Jack Schwartz, Mr. Garbage, and the Christie family, we run garbage for three days during the art festival. And we tried this pilot out. We tried compost bins and the whole new thing and learned a lot of lessons. Had a few hiccups. And our sustainability commission, I want to say this simply to thank our sustainability commission who had five members show up at various times during the three days to realize the impact of what they had done. And it all went very well. And of course in that I'd like to thank Councilmember Coxon and Vice Mayor who also were some of our volunteers for some of those shifts. It's important. This art festival are a good partner for us to figure out how we're going to deploy this actually fairly complicated thing to do, which is the non-plastic in the use of thousands and thousands of people coming every day with multiple food booths. It's a big, significant operational problem. But I thought we had a good pilot, and I'd really like to thank the Sustainability Commission for their work in that. And then the final thing, of course, the rest of our time has been occupied with, at least for some of us, with GPAC, and I think all of us attended the Marin Ship Workshop, which I'm not going to discuss actually in any detail because i think we're going to have an important report in two weeks time a monthly update on the general plan and i think that's probably the more important time to do that we've just had we had however this week and we're going to have next week a general plan advisory committee meeting. And I would say my sense from all of this, and I don't know whether my colleague, Council Member Cox, will agree or not, is that we are approaching a critical phase and the critical phase is that the city count we're reaching a time where the City Council needs to be given by staff and the consultants sort of 35,000 foot synthesis of what the big issues are that this council needs to opine on so it can give direction to the general plan advisory committee I can't think of a more important moment for us to take that responsibility very carefully for example It became clear to me that the General Plan Advisory Committee has still not fully assimilated the direction and, I believe, the consensus of this council that the marineship-specific plan was to be retired, that we were going to do our best for the new regulations and zoning that we want to put in the marinship that it would roll up to the general plan and that we would consider the best aspects of the old marineship specific plan that we might consider as a follow-up to implement what we had decided at the general plan. To be frank, I'm not sure all members of the general plan advisory committee have appreciated that decision we made and so i think in two weeks time if in order to make it crystal clear if instead of reaching a consensus we may consider needing to pass a resolution to that effect The second thing that became crystal clear to me is that there needs to be, once we receive this synthesis of all the top-level items that this council needs to understand or in play with regards to our general plan, One of the really important ones is I'm not sure that collectively we have fully appreciated the need for us to really grab a hold of some of the recommendations that our sustainability commission has made, especially in the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions. The various programs that need to be implemented that other jurisdictions in this county are taking very seriously. And so I think we need to understand that it is probably the council needs to give some guidance that dismissing programs around electrification and such things is just not the way we need to be going. And so I think that I would ask, and I will bring this up again during the future agenda items, that the agenda setting committee makes sure they devote enough time in two weeks' time that we can really get our arms around some of these issues in connection with feedback to the General Plan Advisory Committee. Let me finally say, however, in no way am I directing any criticism to the general plan advisory committee these folks have been sitting down around the table for two years working really hard and so let's understand that I just think that there needs to be some discussion possibly even a joint meeting or something to actually bring the city council and the GPAC into a little bit more of collaboration and coordination. I'm sorry for going on so long, Mr. Mayor. |
| 00:36:26.83 | Mayor Burns | That's it? That's it. All right. Just touch lightly on the G-PAC and get out of there, huh? Okay. Jones? |
| 00:36:34.05 | Councilmember Cox | Thank you. Like Council Member Withey, I also was asked to make a presentation to the Vigna Del Mar delegation. Mine concerned leadership. I also want to thank our Sausalito Police Department and Southernman Fire for their presentation. to our Vigna Del Mar delegation on our mobile shower program and disaster preparedness. Thank you. I attended an MCC MC legislative committee meeting. Marin County mayors and council members. And we went over some of the hot pending legislation due to hit the governor's desk this month. But we took no particular position on any of that legislation. I was privileged to serve on Councilmember Withey's garbage committee. at the Saucedure Art Festival. Councilmember Hoffman and I attended two waterfront meetings, one an internal meeting and one with BCDC, the Bay Conservation Development Commission, You have a staff report. before you tonight at which we'll discuss some of those matters in more detail and of course I also attended our general plan advisory committee marinship workshop which was amazingly well attended and very participatory and so I'm pleased with what I know is a diverse and numerous list of potential recommendations for us to consider. Thank you. |
| 00:38:13.80 | Mayor Burns | Vice Mayor Knowles. |
| 00:38:15.10 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Yeah, I won't repeat a number of the important events that were going on in town that other council members have already discussed. But first of all, I just wanted to thank Council Member Hoffman and her family for her past but also continued service. So thank you, I'm looking forward to considering that item at our next meeting but i want to thank you and your family for that the other thing that hasn't been mentioned tonight that is going on in our community is tonight the sausalito marin city school district is holding a meeting to discuss the attorney general's report judgment and settlement agreement, that was scheduled for tonight. I hope that in the future, those meetings will not be scheduled to conflict with the city council so that both community members and members of this council can participate in those meetings. But that's all. |
| 00:39:21.59 | Mayor Burns | Thank you all. I have no other committees that I attended other than the ones that we brought up here. So thank you for that. Thank you, Steve. I think that was very appropriate what the Vice Mayor said in thanking Jill's entire family. So that's wonderful. And thank you. That far exceeds what we do here, so we appreciate that. |
| 00:39:46.26 | Mayor Burns | We'll get to talk about that. So I'm going to move on from committee, council member committee reports and go to our consent calendar, which is once again very active. I know we have a few recusals, so if you wouldn't mind to let me know first what you have to recuse, and then I'll open up if there's any public comment on the items. |
| 00:40:05.41 | Councilmember Cox | Thank you, Mr. Mayor, I'll be recusing myself from items 5B and 5E. |
| 00:40:11.79 | Mayor Burns | Any others? |
| 00:40:16.40 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | So I can make, if there are no other comments. |
| 00:40:18.00 | Mayor Burns | I'm going to do public comment. |
| 00:40:19.21 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Oh, right. |
| 00:40:21.09 | Mayor Burns | No other refusals? Okay, I'm going to open up to public comment on items on the consent calendar. Is there anybody that would like to speak on items on the consent calendar? Yes. Which item? |
| 00:40:40.56 | Mayor Burns | Okay. 5L. |
| 00:40:48.68 | Mayor Burns | Is there any others that would like to speak to any items? If so, fill out a green card. Otherwise, no? We've got three minutes. End of the mic, Jeff. |
| 00:40:55.04 | Jeffrey Chase | The President. Hello again, the channel 26, Community Media Center of Marin has been around for 10 years. On Saturday, they had a get-together which I missed in San Rafael. They are a public access, which I'm very concerned with. that is funded by the television and cable companies of the USA, all through the country. This is now under Fire. People wanna get rid of Channel 26. And Channel 26, among other things, broadcasts this council meeting. So I just wanna make sure that we know, that there's been a lot of good work done Unfortunately, not enough by me, but I'm joining, re-upping my membership tomorrow. so Anchor our Chronicles on the air soon enough. Thank you. Bye. |
| 00:41:59.99 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. Any other public comment on consent items? Seeing none, I'll close public comment. And any discussion on these items or a motion? |
| 00:42:10.64 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | I can make a motion to approve items 5A, 5C, and D, and 5F through 5L. |
| 00:42:20.04 | Mayor Burns | All in favor? Aye. That motion passes 5-0. |
| 00:42:20.97 | Councilmember Hoffman | Bye. |
| 00:42:23.84 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | And then I will make a motion to approve items 5B and 5E. |
| 00:42:28.83 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:42:28.88 | Ray Withey | Thank you. |
| 00:42:29.08 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:42:29.10 | Ray Withey | and |
| 00:42:30.32 | Unknown | Vote, sir. |
| 00:42:37.13 | City Clerk | Councilmember Cox. |
| 00:42:38.09 | Councilmember Cox | Thank you. I'll recuse myself from that vote. |
| 00:42:41.42 | City Clerk | Councilmember Hoffman. |
| 00:42:42.70 | Councilmember Cox | Yes. |
| 00:42:43.09 | City Clerk | Councilmember Withey? Yes. Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles? Yes. Mayor Burns? |
| 00:42:46.62 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 00:42:48.61 | Mayor Burns | Yes, that passes 5401 with recusal. All right, consent out of the way, move to our business items. You're all still here. All right. Beautiful. Love it. Because now we have some fun stuff. What's that? Oh, we get, oh yeah. Mike, come on up. Excited about this moment. |
| 00:43:11.26 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:43:15.51 | Unknown | Well, good evening, Mayor Byrne, City Council, and thank you for allowing me to make a little bit of change to your agenda. Today, I'm very pleased to introduce our new custodian, Brian Littlegreen. He may look familiar to you because he's lived in Sausalito for seven and a half years. He's worked for Parks and Recreation part-time since June 2017. I actually saw him cleaning up from the art festival and said, there's a detail-oriented guy. I need him on my staff. He's also volunteered with the library. He was hired as a part-time page with the library in April 2019. has been a part-time custodian with us in June since June and he's been full time with us since August. Brian comes to us with a great deal of experience, not only in custodial, but he is experienced in carpentry and finished carpentry. And he's worked at a brewery. So any of you that are interested in brewing beer, You can talk to Brian. Um, He's an avid sailor and boater. He's sailed throughout the San Juan Islands in Washington and has gone to parts of the Inside Passage as far north as Juneau, Alaska, where he worked for a time. Currently lives on a 32-foot sailboat. And Ray, he has an electric motor that is with solar-powered batteries. |
| 00:44:32.46 | Unknown | out. |
| 00:44:33.55 | Unknown | Brian is also a very avid biker. He biked from Canada down to California. If you look on the map, even though it looks downhill, it's not. It's not the easiest route. And he routinely participates in critical mass in San Francisco. I've also seen him just throughout the county somewhere I'll be, and I'm like, well, there goes Brian, whether it's San Rafael or just different places. So the bike is his main route. you transportation, so we have a good inside knowledge here of Sausalito, and it's amazing. He gets to the places faster than most of us do driving. So, Brian Lilgreen. |
| 00:45:17.95 | Brian Littlegreen | Thank you. I've enjoyed working for the city of Sausalito. I have a lot of friends that work in city government, and I'm looking forward to working here for many more years. Thank you. |
| 00:45:28.72 | Mayor Burns | Thank you, Brian. Welcome. Come on up, shake our hand. You've represented our city for some time. It's great to have you fully on board now. |
| 00:45:47.30 | Mayor Burns | That's great. |
| 00:45:53.63 | Mayor Burns | Good luck, Brian. Thank you, Mike. So now we will get to our business item, which first up is a memorandum of understanding between the city and the service employees, International Union, SEIU, Local 1021, and the compensation benefit plan presenting will be... Burke Dunphy, partner at Sloan Sakai Young & Wong. |
| 00:46:22.80 | Unknown | We have a presentation. |
| 00:46:54.68 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 00:48:42.53 | Burke Dunphy | Well, Mayor, Council Members, thank you for your patience with the technical issues, and thank you for having me here this evening. My name is Burke Dunphy, and I'm a partner at the law firm Sloan Sakai Young & Wong, and I had the pleasure of serving as the city's chief negotiator in its negotiations with SEIU Local 1021. So I'm here tonight to present on the adoption of that successor memorandum of understanding that the city negotiated with SEIU. tents you want and also an amended salary resolution covering your unrepresented management and confidential bargaining units. So if we can go to the next slide. Just briefly, I will try to take up too much of your time tonight. It looks like a pretty packed agenda, but we wanted to take this opportunity to summarize the negotiated modifications to the city's memorandum of understanding with SEIU Local 1021 and also summarize the proposed amendments to the salary resolution covering the management confidential groups. And then finally, outline the fiscal impacts of these changes and how they will impact your budget both this year and in the. next couple of years. So first, I will talk about the MOU between the city and SEIU. This slide shows the background of how we got here through this negotiations process. We started negotiating with SEIU back in May of 2019, and after about three months of good faith negotiations, we were able to reach a complete tentative agreement on adjustments to the compensation benefits for the SEIU bargaining unit in early August. We received notice on August 23rd that SEIU's membership had voted in favor of that tentative agreement and ratified that deal. And so now we are here before you recommending adoption of the agreement. The next two slides that I will walk through identify the major compensation and benefit changes that we are reflected in the tentative agreement with SEIU. First, we have a three-year contract term. So the contract will run through June 30th of 2022. And in each year of that contract, we've negotiated a 2.5% wage increase for a total of 7.5% over the three-year term. As noted in the in the sub bullet the first adjustment salary adjustment will take effect as of August 28th 2019 the subsequent adjustments will take effect on July 1 of the applicable fiscal year so July 1 of 2020 and July 1 of 2021 The next item reflects an additional compensation sort of salary item. I have a non-pensionable signing bonus of $418 that will be payable to each employee who is in paid status in the pay period following council adoption. And that is an odd number. So you may be wondering how we got there. That number was calculated by taking the... cost of the salary adjustment dating back to July 1 through August of August 27th of 2019 and then dividing it evenly amongst the folks in the SCIU bargaining unit the benefit to the city is that it is a non-pensionable item but it's still getting compensation to employees another form of money in their pockets so aside from those sort of salary items you'll see the last bullet point on this slide is a 1% city contribution towards employee deferred compensation accounts. And this would be separate from pension benefits. The city would make this direct contribution to employees so long as they have a deferred compensation account. Employees are responsible for opening those accounts accounts but everyone who has an account is eligible for that benefit again this is a way to provide additional benefits to employees in a non pensionable form and also on a pre-tax basis which is beneficial to both the city and to your staff |
| 00:51:50.70 | Lisa Chilino | you. |
| 00:52:38.96 | Burke Dunphy | So those are sort of the salary related items, this slide runs through other economic changes that you will see reflected in the in the mou the first relates to health care the city and seiu agreed to maintain the existing two-tier structure for health care benefits based on date of hire we also agreed to maintain the existing structure on how the increases in city contributions are calculated year over year but the change that is included in the new proposed agreement is a cap on increase in city costs towards health care contributions Thank you. year over year but the change that is included in the new proposed agreement is a cap on increase in city costs towards healthcare contributions at 5%. So this offers the benefit to the city of being able to maintain or sort of mitigate any costs associated with a real spike in healthcare costs but also for employees benefit ensures that there will continue to be some growth as health care costs are expected to continue to rise. The next item refers to, talks about vacation accruals. Under the current contract language, employees are allowed to, there is a cap of 240 hours, but the way that it works is that employees can accrue time in excess of 240 hours and then at the end of the year those hours are cashed out and they starting at the hours over 240 are cashed out and they start occurring again as of January 1 of the next year. That's a significant cost item for the city, so what we were able to negotiate with SEIU is what we call a hard cap of 240 hours, which means that the pay period, the employee hits 240 hours, they will stop occurring vacation time until they get back below that cap. Because there are some employees who are already above 240 hours, we negotiated two sort of methods to give them time to get below that cap. The first is that the heart cap won't take effect until January 1 of 2020. So it gives them at this point about four months to use some vacation time to get below the cap. And then we are also we agreed to offer employees the option to cash out hours in excess of 200. once council has adopted in order to get themselves some space between their accruals and the cap. The next item is a longevity benefit that we've agreed to with SCIU that is consistent with the one that is currently available for your management and confidential unrepresented employees. It maxes out at a percent and a half benefit after 20 years of service. So it's a good thing. somewhat modest but it also encourages folks to see with the city since their their length of service will Result in some benefits for them and then finally we have a $10 per month increase in the city's contribution towards employee commuter benefits To assist with that cost we heard a lot of concerns about the cost of commute commuting So that was a way we were able to address that This next slide, slide six, talks about some additional non-economic changes that we agreed to with SEIU. Largely, these reflect changes in the law since the last contract was entered into back in 2015. Under the first sub bullet you'll see we've updated the non-discrimination language, to reflect the expanded protected statuses that are covered under state law We also revised the union dues provision consistent with somewhat recent US Supreme Court decision that provides that Public employees can no longer be compelled to pay representation fees to their unions, and then we also included language reflecting the new state statute about new employee orientations. We have also added a provision that will allow the parties to meet and confer over negotiable impacts of any potential city reorganization. during the contract term. Without this language, there is arguably a risk that we wouldn't be able to have those conversations until contract expiration. So SCIU is open and willing to agree to this language that allows us to address these issues while the contract is in place. THE CITY IS A CITY IS A CITY The next item you will see there is, we've added language memorializing the PEPPER retirement tier. This is a pension tier that took effect back in 2013, for whatever reason, I'm sure you have lots of other important things to get in the contracts. The benefits hadn't made their way into the agreement, so we thought as you have new staff coming on who are eligible for this pension tier was important to get that language in the contract. The next item is that we updated the out-of-class and acting pay provisions to ensure compliance with CalPERS pension regulations. So this would apply when an employee has taken on job duties outside of their job description or stepped into the shoes of a higher level job temporarily. We wanted to ensure that that contract language aligned with what CalPERS has asked of us. And then finally, we clarified the grievance and discipline processes, didn't make any significant changes to those, but made them, I think, run a little more smoothly is the hope. So, That's SEIU. The next few slides will cover the proposed amendments to the compensation plan, the salary resolution covering your management and confidential groups. These are unrepresented groups, so they don't have an MOU per se. Their benefits are set out in the salary resolution. Thank you. first adopted by the city back in 2003, and it's been amended periodically to change their benefits. As noted in the last bullet point, historically, the modifications for your management and confidential employees have tracked what the city has negotiated for, or negotiated with SCIU, and in the last bullet point, This round of bargaining, we have continued with that practice. So the vast majority of the changes that you would see in the salary resolution are consistent with what we negotiated with SEIU. And if we can go to the next slide, I will point out a couple that are different. So the first is that there is no modification to the longevity benefit for these groups given that we implemented or we've agreed to SCIUs because it is consistent with management and confidential, we didn't need to change the longevity benefit for these groups. The second item is that we have proposed or suggested an addition of 40 hours of administrative leaves for employees who are in FLSA exempt positions in the confidential group. and elimination of floating holidays for these employees. In late December, or excuse me, in December of 2018, the council made some adjustments to the confidential group, including adding three positions that are exempt from the Fair Labor Standards Act overtime regulations. Prior to that, only your management group employees were FLSA exempt. Those employees already receive an administrative leave benefit, which is meant to recognize that they are often expected to work in excess of a normal 40-hour work week, and they don't have the ability to get paid overtime. for that. We believe this is an equitable benefit, recognizing that these folks may work beyond a normal schedule and this time does not have a cash value and it does not carry over from year to year. So that differs from vacation. The most they will have in their banks is 40 hours. It won't add up if they don't use it. So beyond those two changes, we also, in terms of salary, there's one other sort of... unique change to the management and confidential groups that you won't see in the SEIU agreement. Back in March, the city received a labor market compensation study from Coffin Associates, and this study revealed the city's job classifications market position and showed that there were a number of positions that were behind market, including the five that you see listed here, that are in the management and confidential groups. So as part of this process of amending the salary resolution, the city staff is recommending that we move |
| 01:01:02.45 | Councilmember Hoffman | move. |
| 01:01:02.93 | Burke Dunphy | these positions up towards the market position over the three-year term of the resolution. And that's what you will see in the far right column, the proposed equity adjustment each year of the salary resolution ranging anywhere from, I think, 3.2% per year for the HR manager up to 6.3% for the IT manager. The way that city staff is proposing to implement this is to adjust upward the top of the salary range for this group so it gives room to move And there will only be an immediate impact on four of these positions because one of them, the employee in that position, isn't at the top of the range yet. So the financial impact is limited to just those four positions. Now what goes along with equity increases for positions that are behind market is an adjustment or lack thereof for positions that are well ahead of market. And so on this slide you will see that the Coffin Associates study showed that two positions in the management group are ahead of market, your chief of police and your police lieutenant. of trying to get positions around the market rate the amended salary resolution proposes what we refer to as a Y rating of those two positions in fiscal year 2019-2020. And what Y rating for this purpose means is that... the salary range will not be increased by the 2.5% that other salary ranges are being increased by until 2020, 2021. So. So those are the summaries of the adjustments, the amendments that you will see to the MOU with SCIU and the salary resolution with the management and confidential groups. This slide goes through the costing of those proposed changes. And as noted here, the fiscal impact will be in fiscal year 1920. a little less than $200,000, $198,100, and a little less than $800,000 over the three-year term of the contract. The city has determined that the benefit and compensation adjustments can be funded through the structural surplus that was shown in the fiscal year 2019-2020 budget. And these adjustments will be built into the general fund base budget for your next two-year cycle that will start with fiscal year 2020-2021 and then cover the final year of these agreements, fiscal year 2021 and 2022. So our recommended action as detailed in the staff report would be that the city council adopt a resolution authorizing the city manager to execute A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRACT BETWEEN A CONTRABRED A CON SEIU Local 1021 and the city of Sausalito that will run through June 30th of 2022. And also that the city council adopt a resolution approving the compensation benefits plan for your management and confidential employees that would also run through June 30th of 2022. |
| 01:04:04.70 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:04:05.37 | Burke Dunphy | I'm happy to answer them. |
| 01:04:07.04 | Mayor Burns | Great. Are there any questions for Burke? |
| 01:04:11.93 | Mayor Burns | Seeing none from our council, I'll ask you to step down just for a second just to see if there's any public comment. Is there any comments from the public on item 6A, the memorandum? Seeing no hands or cards. Come by. |
| 01:04:30.24 | Mayor Burns | I'll bring it up here for discussion. Who'd like to start? Anybody have anything to add? Jill, you nod. Good? Okay. Okay. |
| 01:04:42.53 | Jill Hoffman | So we've had many closed sessions, city council meetings on this. So we've talked amongst ourselves and none of this is going to come to any surprise to anybody that's sitting up here, the comments I'm going to make. the city manager or the city attorney or Burke actually so When we started this process back in January, I advocated strongly for a holistic look at the way our staff is structured and where we could find efficiencies and reorganize before we started negotiating the contract because with the employees. you know, understanding that once we negotiate the contract, We had less ability to reorganize. reorganize And to figure out where we could streamline and create efficiencies and reorganization. Unfortunately, that didn't happen as this process, and I'm disappointed that that didn't happen, because I think that would have been very beneficial to our employees, actually. and the way that we do business and the way that we service our our citizens of Sausalito. Keep in mind, none of these comments are any negative comments about our staff. I think we have a wonderful and incredibly dedicated staff that work here in Sausalito and incredibly devoted to the services that they provide and the people in the city of Sausalio, so just with that caveat. I'm cautious about the SEIU contract, also due to the concerns that I've voiced over the past six months about our budget and the structure of our budget and some of the current concerns I have. about some of the irregularities that happened in our budget and just my basic confidence in that budget up until I think the point that we have our next certified annual financial review, which will come in I hope sometime in December, so that will I think create I hope. some confidence in our budget and I would feel better about voting on the SDIU contract at that time. Okay, so let's talk about just the basic structure of the deal. So what some people, a lot of people don't understand about our the negotiations that we do with the contract is that we have A union? of some employees and we have non-union employees. The union employees make up 29 staff people, the unrepresented staff makes up 22%. of the employees, roughly those two groups together are about the same cost. So we have SEIU group which is about 102 of the total that will cost for the pay increases. The confidential employees is about 28,000. The unrepresented employees, sorry, make up two groups. One is our management group, which are the people that manage the departments, our city manager and other managers. And the confidential employees, which are other employees that are non-union employees and they're referred to as confidential employees. So those make up 22 members of our staff. The confidential employees cost proposed would be about $28,000. The management employee increases would be about $75,000. What I had hoped with regard to this negotiation was that in the past, by resolution, we apply the same negotiated increases with the staff, with the represented staff, in other words, the union staff, to the unrepresented staff. My point has been, and it was the last time we went through this, back in 2015, I believe, was that For management, especially management staff. Management staff the reason their management is because we hold them to a higher standard they manage people if we're going to give them raises. Especially, they should be merit based raises, based on reviews, based on performance, not a formula that we've negotiated for union contract, instead of the specific performance of those departments for which that manager is responsible. And so, I had hoped that we would start to divorce ourselves from that this year and move toward better practices and better accountability and our management staff. I believe I'm going to be voted down on that today, but I'm sorry about that because I think that's a lost opportunity, especially when you're looking at extending this for three years, which means the next time we'll be able to address this is in three years. My next concern is that the structural, what we're referring to is structural surplus, I'm concerned about our structural surplus. I'm concerned that we're allocating and considering money that is coming into us from other sources, including Measure O. are included in the structural surplus. We had a presentation that our structural surplus was About 900,000, but if you look at, I met with Yulia this week, if you look at, The unallocated measure O money, okay, so measure O money that's looked at as structural surplus but hasn't been moved to an actual um, expenditure yet, that's included in there. So if you back that out, which now includes about $300,000, the structural surplus right now is about $600,000, $605,000. So when you're looking at a budget proposal where it's half of that and that's our structural surplus, that causes me great concern when I also look at, as I do whenever we talk about, employee compensation is our pension debt, our unfunded pension liability. Okay, so just a very quick point. Our unfunded pension liability occurs when the amount of money that we paid into or the obligation for is not met by what we've already paid into the pension fund, the CalPERS. Anytime there's a market that doesn't meet the Percentage return rate? We are responsible for that and we the city of Sausalito, the people of Sausalito are responsible for paying for that unfunded gap. Thank you. In 2015, our unfunded pension liability was 17 million. In 2018, our unfunded pension liability had grown to $28 million in three years. And so, I do not believe that we are aggressively trying to pay the unfunded pension liability down, and taking other measures to reduce that unfunded pension liability. And one of the ways is that you have to look at how you do business and where cost efficiencies can be found. For these reasons, I have deep concern about the health of this contract, I had hoped that we would have done a better job in setting the course. going forward. We cannot continue to do business in this way in Sausalito. We must have a course correction in how we do business. on behalf of our employees, on behalf of our city. And so those are my initial thoughts. |
| 01:12:18.02 | Mayor Burns | Thanks. Jones. |
| 01:12:21.41 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:12:21.43 | Councilmember Cox | Thank you. |
| 01:12:22.39 | Jill Hoffman | you |
| 01:12:22.96 | Councilmember Cox | um, I want to address some of the same issues raised by Councilmember Hoffman. I want to say that I'm pleased that the adjustments to our MOU, which are essentially cost of living increases, are within our structural surplus. I'm also pleased that we took the action to specifically reserve to ourselves the ability to reorganize our city staff and adjust the MOU as required within this three-year MOU period so that we have reserved to ourselves the flexibility to undertake reorganization if that's what we think is appropriate I am also reassured that we are not simply carrying over all of our SEIU decisions to our unrepresented employees. To the contrary, we are specifically adjusting certain of our management employee contracts based on the Y rating system. And we're holding in place several of those salaries to ensure that the salary we are paying is at market and yet fair to our employees. And so I'm grateful that we are not simply carrying over all of our SEIU decisions to our unrepresented employees. to those management employees for not objecting to our plan which really creates a more even playing field for all of our employees. BUT, First and foremost, we're not simply making adjustments to our unrepresented employee contracts without giving due thought to their fairness and appropriateness. I also want to say that we do undertake performance reviews and we have a separate system for managing the performance of our management employees. With respect to our unfunded pension liability, we spent considerable time last year calculating our future unfunded pension liability. And I'm confident, based on the work we did last year and some of the policy resolutions that we adopted that our future budgets will be able to accommodate the cash flow impacts that we will face as our pension liability payments increase over time so I believe that we have Accomplished the due diligence that we owe to our residents and to our employees in negotiating this MOU And I'm prepared to vote in favor of it |
| 01:14:38.20 | Mary Wagner | Right here. |
| 01:14:42.77 | Ray Withey | You know, I have... I came to this country in 1980, and since then I've actually never worked in an environment where there were unions, actually. I'm used to working in an environment, either an academic setting where, you know, you got no pay raise, or you worked in an entrepreneurial setting where everything was merit based. I was last a member of the union in 1979 when I was a member of the international affiliated carpenters union, which would surprise many people. So that was when I was earning extra money as a student in order to work on construction sites, anyway. There's got to be some principles that we apply in labor negotiations as I've now been through a number with this city. The first is to appreciate that Our employees are valuable, they're important. They're important as human beings, they're important as valuable human resources to do jobs. And currently in the government sector, we do have a union-organized system and collective bargaining. And my God, over a century or more, that has benefited lots of people, and rightly so. And so in the end, it's, and I know our city manager and the leadership in the city in the past have basically gone into labor negotiations with one very important, two very important things at work. The first is an absolute fairness, fairness to our employees, and fairness so that the city can move ahead with our stakeholders and include our employees moving forward in a productive manner. And the second is to hold a fiscal lens on the fact that, you know, whatever pay increases we give to employees is nonetheless going to have a fiscal effect. you Now, I am going to support this. I'm going to support this because it's fair for our employees. It's a good, if you like, human resource management of the situation. And I'd like to express a thank you to our employees moving forward. However, I've got to make sure that everybody understands, in particular the employees understand, this council understands, staff in general understand, We are in, while we're in financially really good shape, structurally, we are at a critical management inflection point in my view with regards to our cash flows. And it is the, while I approve, of these pay increases and I approve of the cash flow impact to our general fund, it must be recognized that looking ahead to next year, if we are not going to actually, which I don't think we can, take any more money out of our reserves that are in our general fund, and And indeed, if we have to commit to actually start replenishing our general fund reserves, because we've been using them for capital improvements. If we're going to do that, then we need a structural surplus in now, in my view, of over $1.5 million next year. And we need that because the measure O money, which comes out of the structural surplus, is gonna be at least 1.3, if not more. And if we're going to start at least making some steps to building up the fund again, let's say a couple of hundred thousand dollars, that's 1.5. So there's one and a half million dollars. As Councilmember Hoffman has indicated, the structural surplus that we are going to achieve by budget this year with this MOU cash flow cost effect is going to be significantly less than a million dollars. So next year, we've got to get $1.5 million in structural service. By budget this year, we're under a million, significantly under a million. So that is just pressure that's going to occur on the really important work that the finance committee and staff have got to do over the course of the next year to figure out the sharpener pencils and make sure that we can achieve those numbers. So it's just a lot of extra pressure. but something we need to do nonetheless. So that's my view. |
| 01:19:58.77 | Councilmember Cox | Can I make just one brief? I just do want to point out that last year we did enact our business license tax, a good portion of which will not go into effect until the beginning of next year, which will provide us some relief as we seek to increase the level of our structural surplus. |
| 01:20:16.46 | Ray Withey | Can I just add then, I agree with that completely. There are lots of factors that are going to put pressure on our structural surplus, both in the positive and in the negative. And this is the MOU cost is one of those factors. So I appreciate that point. |
| 01:20:16.49 | Councilmember Cox | Can I just add? |
| 01:20:37.62 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | great thank you to everyone um i appreciate the comments of all the council members who have already spoken i would particularly like to echo the comments of council member cox and with the i think we this is always a very difficult balancing act as council member with the alluded to and i do think that we reached an agreement that recognizes and rewards our employees continues our ability to provide service to our residents helps retain and attract good employees and does balance this with our ongoing fiscal responsibilities to our taxpayers. I'm particularly happy with the combination. of our ongoing fiscal responsibilities to our taxpayers. I'm particularly happy with the combination of benefits to employees that are pensionable and non-pensionable. I am, while it's not a lot or as much as I had hoped we could give, I am happy to see the increase in commuter benefits and hope that more of our employees can take advantage of sustainable forms of transportation And as Councilmember Cox already said, I really think we did retain flexibility to continue to restructure and reorganize as necessary as we move forward. To me, those are some of the highlights and not to repeat too much of what other people already mentioned. I also just wanna thank the many employees who took the opportunity to comment and to advocate for their I... point of view and positions in this process and for demonstrating their passion for their work. I think we are extraordinarily lucky to have the employees that we do have and I think they did an excellent job in demonstrating not only to the council, but also to our residents, why we are very lucky to have them. So I also wanted to extend a thanks to them. And Jen, just to re-echo one other additional thing that Council Member Cox already recognized, I do think that the deal that we have reached or the resolution that's before us for our unrepresented employees. already recognized I do think that the deal that we have reached or the resolution that's before us for our unrepresented employees is a reasonable modification of our prior policies and like councilmember with the appreciate some of the employees who will not benefit this year from from that decision but I think it's prudent and reflects a good process to move forward Thank you. |
| 01:23:24.30 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. Yeah, great comments already as is usually the case. I appreciate, as Councilmember Hoffman stated, that we have gone through a lot of discussion coming to this point and we reviewed a lot of data. And we have one of those that was mentioned tonight, the COF report. I think we all have concern. I'm looking at this room, the people that are in management here that help run the city, the staff table, five council members, we're all concerned. We wake up, I wake up almost every day concerned about something's going on in our city. Managing level of service, protection of our economy, protection of our residents, resiliency of our budget. but concern isn't a leadership strategy, concern is how you approach the alternatives. And in baseball, I love to use references to sports, there's a key stat called war, wins against replacement. not only how good you are, but how good you are to the alternative. And the alternative to not having an MOU is disastrous. I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO not having an employee base that we rely on is disastrous to the work we're trying to do to keep up the level of service. and to do the millions and millions of dollars of infrastructure we've been able to do in the last few years, that has been a significant strain on our budget. but is needed to increase the value of our asset. and we have been as a group. swimming through that process and while maintaining that concern, while maintaining a high level of service for our residents, and while being fiscally responsible. We've put ourselves out on a ledge, and that ledge was based on those decisions we decided to make, to really invest in our infrastructure, to invest in our employees, to make this city what it should be. So for that, my win against replacement is that we get our employees locked up in a real strong relationship like this does I do want to make sure that we understand as we're talking about these things the difference between colas and Performance based pays and what as the council member talks and others are brought up So there's always room for us to come back and say we want to add a metric program of Compensation for certain performances that shouldn't take away from protecting our employees against the rising cost of living so This is a step and as councilmember with he has pointed out I think we all agree, it's a step in the process that is going to get very dicey in the fall, winter months as we go into the next budgeting process. But I want everybody to keep in mind... We're still winning. we have challenges we put ourselves out there but we're building our asset building our value and our employees are a big part of our value so I thank the employees Union I thank Burke for all the work you have done staff and And I am ready to support this as well. |
| 01:27:03.45 | Jill Hoffman | I have a follow-up comment based on some other comments. |
| 01:27:05.56 | Mayor Burns | I'll see you back. |
| 01:27:05.80 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. I was reminded that about the clause in our, the new clause in our contract that allows us to look at the organization. I advocated for that, and I'm glad that it's in there. I hope during the next year that we'll actually act on that, that the city council will actually act on that and look at some, reorganization and cost efficiencies. I just wanted to say specifically, some of the specific raises that were for the management group and then unrepresented group, I support those. Because I look at those, some of those are significantly below market. I agree with bringing those guys up to market or closer to market. Um, But, and that was a frustration in the past when we said, well, we can't do it because we're just, giving them the same benefits we gave to the union. So I'm glad that we've at least started stepping away from that. I hope that that continues. as we move forward in future years. |
| 01:28:01.06 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. would you be like to make a motion |
| 01:28:05.42 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:28:05.43 | Councilmember Cox | Sure. I move we adopt a resolution of the City Council of the City of Sausalito authorizing the City Manager to execute the Memorandum of Understanding between the City of Sausalito and the Service Employees International Union, SEIU, Local 1021 for July 1, 2019 through June 30, 2022. |
| 01:28:26.00 | Ray Withey | Second. Do a roll call. |
| 01:28:27.98 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:28:28.43 | Ray Withey | Thank you. |
| 01:28:31.71 | City Clerk | Councilmember Cox? Yes. Councilmember Hoffman? |
| 01:28:32.92 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yes. |
| 01:28:37.01 | City Clerk | Yes. Councilmember Withey? |
| 01:28:37.24 | Councilmember Hoffman | Council member with |
| 01:28:39.34 | City Clerk | you Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles. |
| 01:28:41.85 | Councilmember Cox | Thank you. |
| 01:28:42.47 | City Clerk | Mayor Burns. |
| 01:28:43.35 | Mayor Burns | Yes, that passes 5-0 or 8-0 depending on how many times this is Council Member Coffman. |
| 01:28:47.59 | Councilmember Cox | And, And I move we adopt a resolution of the City Council of the City of Sausalito amending resolution number 4639 and establishing compensation and employee benefits for members of the unrepresented employee groups, management and confidential employees for July 1, 2019 through June 30, 2022. |
| 01:29:06.72 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:29:06.74 | City Clerk | Second. |
| 01:29:07.38 | Unknown | Thank you. Roll call. |
| 01:29:08.97 | Mayor Burns | search. |
| 01:29:09.31 | City Clerk | Thank you. Councilmember Cox? Yes. Councilmember Hoffman? No. Councilmember Withey? Yes. Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles? Yes. Mayor Burns? |
| 01:29:11.48 | Councilmember Cox | Yes. No. |
| 01:29:17.96 | Councilmember Cox | Yes. |
| 01:29:19.55 | Mayor Burns | Yes, that passes 4-1. Thank you. |
| 01:29:24.97 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:29:25.08 | Mayor Burns | Thank you all for all of our work up here. Appreciate you four. |
| 01:29:25.12 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. Thanks, Bert. Thank you all. |
| 01:29:32.34 | Mayor Burns | Next up, 6B, our newest inductee. Kevin McCowan's approaching the you podium with confidence as he talks about adopting a resolution continuing the declaration of a local emergency related to storm activity and landslides. And accept the information report and status update regarding award of debris removal project, Saucida Boulevard to Crescent. Welcome again, Kevin. |
| 01:29:56.49 | Kevin McGowan | Good evening Mayor. Thank you members of City Council. I'm glad to be here this evening. I'm Kevin McGowan with the Department of Public Works and this evening we've got an item before you to give you a brief update on what's going on with the slide debris removal as well as an action to renew the emergency declaration. So I have only a few slides for you this evening and I welcome your comments hopefully at the end or even during the presentation. So in addition this evening, we have Kyle here from Harrison Associates. So if there are some technical questions associated with some of the work, Kyle's here to help me out to address some of the questions. So as you know, on February 14th, a large mudslide occurred on National Park property. and slid down to Slossolito Boulevard and continued to cross the street you to take out a house at 406 and 408 Sausalito Boulevard. Excuse me. I have to get the right acronym. And continue down to Crescent Avenue, taking out a structure at 57 Crescent Avenue. Significant damage also occurred adjacent to properties. Cars and portions of adjacent structures were caught in the slide. and carried downhill to their present position on Crescent Avenue. The majority of the debris has not been removed as of yet. Luckily, there were no fatalities in this event. which is quite amazing if you ask me. |
| 01:31:27.48 | Kevin McGowan | All right, just to kind of recap, let's put some of these up on the screen for us as well. The city took immediate action with regard to this event by issuing a resolution of local emergency. City Council has continued to continued that declaration. each 30 days. Recently, the requirement to continue the declaration was modified to be required only every 60 days. So it's changed ever so slightly. The city has hired Harrison Associates to assist the city with developing a bid package for the removal and the management of FEMA paperwork associated with the project. In June, council took action by modifying the work hours associated with this specific work. So some of this is... You already probably know all this, so I'm just gonna go through a lot of it. Several actions occurred in July. 2019, which included acknowledgement of this project as a categorically exempt project and authorizing the city manager to sign the rights of entry to remove the debris from the properties adjacent to Crescent and Sausalito. The project was also rebid at that point in time. Thank you. in conformance with state and federal guidelines, and on August 19th, six responsive bids were received by the city. |
| 01:33:03.61 | Kevin McGowan | August 21st, a notice of award was issued to Resource Environmental, the low bidder on the project. In addition, the city signed a contract with Harrison Associates to manage the field construction. Last Thursday, we had a pre-construction meeting and communication with the contractor, Harrison Associates, as well as utilities that are important around this specific site. And I'll get into some of that, what to expect items, in a little bit. So looking at your staff report, there is a fiscal section in there. And I kind of wanted to review a couple of these items just so that we're all on the same page with this specific issue. The estimated construction expense for the project is approximately $1.8 million. If all these expenses are found to be eligible by state and federal requirements, the city will be required to have a local match of about $112,000. FEMA representatives who we have met with quite often for this specific project and I just want to, at this point, recognize Andy Davidson of our staff. who has really been great. He's just a wonderful person to help us out with this and has taken the lead on meeting with FEMA on many occasions. So FEMA representatives have noted that removal of debris from private property is not eligible for federal reimbursement. This rule by FEMA may limit the amount of reimbursement received by the city. Field staff is ready to document where material is being removed. In other words, we're ready to go ahead and document if material is removed from private property versus the public right-of-the-art. |
| 01:34:51.51 | Kevin McGowan | So as I noted before that FEMA only reimburses at this point, at least that's what they're telling us, for removal on public property. Now, a couple items of what to expect for construction. Many times when we start construction, Folks think that as soon as we issue the notice proceed or the notice of award, the next day somebody just shows up and they start working. I wish that were the case. There are a lot of steps that need to happen before we get to that specific point. And a lot of those have to do with signing contracts, making sure that we get permits in place. And I just want to reiterate a couple of these just so that, again, we're on the same We've got a few power lines that need to be relocated so that the contractor can get in there with his equipment and move material around. One of them is the... faith. service line that goes to one of the residents. We're working on that as we speak, trying to get a higher electrical line put in so that the equipment won't hit it. In addition, MMWD has a pump station that's close by this site. They've agreed to go ahead and drop the power lines for the duration of the work so there's no conflict with their line specific. We're working very closely with them to make sure that their structure is not damaged by any of the work as well. Material testing has to occur in order for the contractor to get a permit for the Bay Area Air Quality Management District. That testing occurred this week. In other words, there was somebody out on site taking tests. It takes a few days in order to get the results back. That's submitted to Bay Area Air Quality. And then we can have our contractor move forward once they get that permit. All of these things have to occur before the contractor starts work. At this point from the pre-construction meeting, oops, sorry about that. from the pre-construction meeting our contractor as anticipating starting work around the September 23rd. Thank you. Now, that is a... that is predicated on the fact that they are going to get their permit from Bay Area Air Quality, as well as working closely with PG&E. We're pretty confident that this can occur at this point. Um, What else will you see on site? You will probably see some workers on tie back suits, and that's why I included this slide here specifically. Does that mean that this material is specifically hazardous? Maybe not. I think it's a Cal OSHA requirement that some of the workers who work in this type of a field need to have Tyvek suits and special gloves and that type of thing. So it doesn't mean that there's a danger to the community, and we will check that specifically with the results that we get from the tests. But I just wanted to remind folks who might be watching at home who may see somebody out there in a hazardous outfit, does that mean the whole air is hazardous as well? It doesn't. So it's just a requirement from CalOcean. As you know, the work hours were changed in order to expedite this work. The contractor bid this work for a Amen. eight-hour day, five days a week. We can accelerate that, but it may cost the city additional money. At this point, we would like to let the contractor get going on what they propose so that they can break ground and move this stuff out of the way. And if we find we have to expedite this, we will take another look at it. As far as contacts, Harrison Associates is representing us in the field, and I wanted to let folks know that the main contact out there for a resident engineer is Cyrus Bousar, I think I pronounced his name correctly. His name and number are here on this specific slide, so in the future, if somebody watches this presentation, they can reach out to Cyrus. Eric Vaughn is the project manager, and he can also be reached out to. In any case, both Andy and I are available at any time to take phone calls, or if any of the residents would like to talk to us about this, we're more than available. And we will be visiting this site quite often. Now, as far as the item of continuing the local emergency, I took the slide from the last presentation made here at Council. So I don't think we have to review everything associated with this. At this point, we are using pretty much the same resolution we used last time to extend it for an additional 60 days. And I did make a mistake on putting together the slide presentation. This particular slide is not necessary. We moved this forward on the July agenda. So my apologies, but I did keep it in there since the public has seen it already. So with that, staff is recommending that we move forward with the resolution of continuing the local emergency declaration related to this storm activity. And if you have any questions or comments, I'd be more than happy to try to address them. |
| 01:39:42.99 | Mayor Burns | We do have some questions for you, so stay there. First up, Susan. Susan? |
| 01:39:47.20 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Yeah, so I just wanted to hear a little more specifics about community outreach in this particular neighborhood. So, you know, I think it's great that you showed the slide about what it looks like to remove hazardous waste, but are we doing kind of any door-to-door outreach in the area? You know, construction from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. I wholly support. I think that's the way to get this done quickly, but that is going to have, some significant impacts on residents. We've also read in the staff report about the significant amount of waste that will be outhauled that's going to have a lot of traffic impact. So can you just talk about how we're going to make sure that the residents that are the most impacted understand what's coming? |
| 01:40:31.66 | Kevin McGowan | Very good question. So maybe I'll review a little bit of what we've done to date. And we have a list of property owners who are impacted directly around where this debris is being removed. We've tried to keep, In the last several days, I've communicated with them via email. Originally, we wanted to try to actually get together on site, but that might be too much of a problem with so many people who might be out. So email communications is what we've reached out to at this point. In addition, we've reached out to them in recent days to make sure that they have signed the right to enter forms and returned them to the city. so that they know this is coming. Now, At this point, we're not specifically sure until we get a plan from our contractor, which is one of the submittals he has to submit before he starts work, of his exact areas for construction. We're pretty sure that right in front of 60 and 62 Crescent is where most of the loading and unloading of material will occur with dump trucks. So making sure that that area is clear is going to be very important. And if the contractor needs more space on I believe it's Main Street which accesses that corner. we will need to probably put up some more no parking signs and reach out to those residents who are adjacent to those specific areas. We had anticipated possibly reaching out to those residents in terms of Could be door hangers it could be actually a mailer or a letter letting them know this is coming as well Move forward with that yet, but I think that would be an appropriate thing to move forward |
| 01:42:07.68 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | I'd be very supportive of door hangers. I don't think a letter, I mean, I just think a door hanger is the easiest, fastest way to get in touch with people. Leave that to staff, but thank you. |
| 01:42:22.46 | Adam Politzer | Any other questions? I just want to reiterate, I think what you're hearing from Kevin, which is a little bit different from when Eric Vaughn was here from Harris several months ago when the council talked about communication. Now that we have the contractor, now that that has been, you know, there's a variety of things from traffic impacts, noise, quality, you know, all types of quality of life issues that all need to be discussed and planned out. That information needs to get out to the entire neighborhood, and that's not just to the affected property owners. the affected property owners, the exact ones that have been affected by the slides, the Andy Davidson, Kevin, and Eric Vaughn from Harris, you know, have been meeting with those folks, you know, one on the right of entry, make sure they understand why we're asking them to do that, but also letting them know, you know, the impacts, especially for some that are gonna be a ground zero and a seven to seven, construction zone for 40 days or 90 days, you know, so that they're prepared for that. So we're, I think there'll be an avalanche of information. But I think what is most important, what I want the public to hear, Kevin has said it earlier. I'm not sure. It needs to be high touch. It needs to be, I need to talk to somebody, not just the dog. the door hanger. In last Friday's edition of The Currents, we put out information giving people some overview of what was happening. A lot of the information that's in your staff report is in this Currents article. So we'll continue to reach out through social media, and if door hangers are the next line, we'll do those too. I don't think we're going to slow down. in any fashion. What I've also been assured is that there will be people outside, including the construction So there are questions, what if I need to get access to my house? You know, you've got a dump truck there. You know, again, just like when we pave roads, we try to work with the residents that are most affected. So I think that from the very beginning, from February 14th to this moment, our commitment to those residents and to the neighborhood is sincere and will be demonstrated by our actions. So hopefully there is confidence from the council and the community that we now that the contractors on board now that Harrison's on board we can put all of those plans into place and put that information out in advance so which will include weekly schedules here's what's coming up next week so that people can you know if they need to get out of the house or park their car somewhere else you know they have the ability to plan for that and to work with staff to accommodate their requests |
| 01:45:10.28 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:45:12.51 | Ray Withey | Thank you, Kevin, for that update. You know, it's obvious that the rainy season is approaching, and, you know, we normally say October 15th, probably rain by the end of October, but definitely rain in November, you know. And by December, we get one usually really big, heavy storm. is has the rain schedule and urgency to try and sort of fighting the weather what are the plans and has that been factored in to the timing and what would be to assure the public what would be the contingency plans in heavy rain to protect the site so that it can continue in a safe and effective manner? |
| 01:46:06.72 | Kevin McGowan | Those are very good questions. In the pre-construction meeting, we have discussed this directly with the contractor. They have conveyed to us, at least verbally, that they don't think it'll take the full 90 days to remove this material. They think it'll go faster. We want to make sure that it definitely goes before the rains Let's just say that things don't go well. and that they removed material and they haven't quite finished everything. we would rely on a geotechnical engineer. who is hired by Harris and Associates. to take a look at this site to find out what do we need to do with it. In general, with something like this, you want to make sure that the material that's there doesn't move during a rainstorm. And so that means either keeping it dry or making sure that that water whatever it may be, is directed to a place that it can be controlled. This is true with hazardous materials as well. that if rains start to, if we know that rains are coming, we wanna make sure to be able to control the site, so that we don't have runoff that can impact downstream neighbors. So we definitely want to look at that. And we want to put in place some contingency plans just as you're recommending. in order to make sure this site is protected and to make sure that the residents around it are protected as well. I do have a personal concern of the steepness of the slope and to keep an eye on the rainfall that comes from above Sausalito Boulevard. And I've conveyed that to our consultant several times that we need to make sure to take a look at that. It's not just what do we do when all this debris is maybe not being removed, but what happens when it's completely removed we want to look at making sure that the storm water is controlled correctly. So that is one of the things that is in, I believe, in Harris's scope of work, is to look |
| 01:48:07.44 | Mayor Burns | Great. I know you're new and we're putting a lot of pressure on you, but we want early rains for fire suppression. We want late rains for this effort. We want sunshine for our park grass. So anything you can do in those areas would be helpful. Any questions or any public comment? Any comments for the public on this item? Seeing none, we'll bring it up here for additional comments and comments. |
| 01:48:07.84 | Kevin McGowan | YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO |
| 01:48:14.48 | Lisa Chilino | One. |
| 01:48:31.79 | Mayor Burns | Motion. |
| 01:48:35.11 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Yeah, we have to continue the resolution. |
| 01:48:40.02 | Councilmember Cox | I'll move, well, I do want to thank our new Public Works Director for a very comprehensive and competent report and for shepherding this really important process on behalf of the city. |
| 01:48:51.36 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. I appreciate it. |
| 01:48:53.39 | Councilmember Cox | And I'll move that we adopt a resolution continuing the declaration of a local emergency related to storm activity and landslides. second. |
| 01:49:02.08 | Unknown | All in favor? Aye. That passes five zero. |
| 01:49:03.13 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Bye. And then I just had one quick comment. I mean, I do really wanna thank our residents, especially those in close proximity to the site for their patients. It has been a very long and frustrating process for everyone involved, I think. I want to thank Andy Davidson and all our staff. particularly for getting us to this point where we actually can see the light at the end of the tunnel and I'm really really looking forward to seeing the dump trucks on Crescent and in my neighborhood so thank you |
| 01:49:38.09 | Mayor Burns | Great comment. And nice slide deck. I know it's a little changed, but it's awesome. Great work on that. Good read. All right, next up. our final Business item of the evening is... 6C, we're going to bring up Police Captain... I know. I just want to say police captain Bill Frost and then I'll introduce the chief of police. But police captain Bill Frost is going to defer to the Police Chief. |
| 01:50:06.91 | John Rohrabacher | So Bill's going to sit this one out, okay? |
| 01:50:11.32 | Mayor Burns | Is that Captain Bill Frost is going to sit this one out? |
| 01:50:14.07 | Councilmember Hoffman | . THE END OF THE END OF THE Thank you. |
| 01:50:14.63 | Mayor Burns | I'm the police probationary. |
| 01:50:15.64 | John Rohrabacher | Thank you. |
| 01:50:15.67 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:50:15.69 | John Rohrabacher | Thank you. |
| 01:50:15.71 | Councilmember Hoffman | Okay. Oh. |
| 01:50:17.27 | Mayor Burns | I'm not. Good time to sit it out. I'll bring up that win against replacement model again. |
| 01:50:28.63 | John Rohrabacher | All right, good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of the City Council. My name is John Rohrabacher, I'm your Chief of Police. And we have actually a lot to cover. Most of it is really exciting news and extremely dynamic. And I just want to sort of address head on the first issue before we even get into the slides that you probably maybe haven't even seen them. And I've never worked on a project like this one where there's something going on every single day without a heart stop to put together a report effective a certain day trying to meet all the deadlines that we typically do for Council and the public to review documents. But today must be for me a sort of a weird milestone of not even finishing my last keystrokes till about one o'clock this afternoon and then sending it to you. So I'm imagining you may even have not seen some of this And for that, I apologize. And for the public who likes to look at this stuff ahead of time as well, But there's a lot going on and I'm happy to go through all of it. with enough time and ability to answer your questions, if that helps mitigate a little bit of the delay. |
| 01:51:56.74 | John Rohrabacher | these things. |
| 01:51:57.50 | Jeffrey Chase | Okay. |
| 01:51:57.94 | John Rohrabacher | you All right, so we actually have three basic topics for tonight that I want to cover. I want to give you a brief update on what we're doing management and enforcement on our waterfront, And then I wanna talk a little bit about the Safe Harbor program update. So exciting, our news related to Safe Harbor. and then also our continuing work with the San Francisco Bay Conservation Development Commission. and a meeting we have coming up on Thursday. And so I have a second slide presentation just so you can look at those slides tonight and offer any comments prior to us going to that meeting on Thursday. |
| 01:52:46.48 | John Rohrabacher | So I'm putting this up early, but I'm gonna put it back up at the end. This is what we're looking to get towards at the conclusion of all my remarks and presentation. One I'd like you just to receive the following report I want you to please approve the draft presentations for the DCTC meeting coming up after you have some discussion about them. We have some time to modify them before we send them in. And then in addition to that, we need to have some discussion about the pollution coverage issues related to the Safe Harbor project. I'm going to go into more of them in more detail. So you're going to see this slide at the end. So to start with on our waterfront management, we really like these kind of graphs because it shows a steady decline in our boats on the soft suit of water. and you know we started our efforts over two years ago we've been conducting monthly surveys the surveys are invaluable to us they provide us verifiable hard data on our efforts and it also helps to direct our limited marine patrol resources so that when they do work on the water, they actually have specific tasks they're looking for and want to accomplish. And this is the result. And I couldn't be more pleased with it myself. We've reached some. stability here with 18, it sort of lends itself to the conversation we're gonna have about the Safe Harbor Project. but I've told the city manager on more than one occasion that now that we're down to 18 votes, each one actually has a story. And we're talking about real people now on those votes. There's a couple of those that are unoccupied, and we have plans to deal with those. They're not really terribly important tonight. but the ones that have people on them are. and show life. That's it, that's our work as far as. Chief, we have a question. |
| 01:54:43.43 | Mayor Burns | you |
| 01:54:43.70 | John Rohrabacher | I'm sorry, go ahead. |
| 01:54:44.00 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Yeah. I'm sorry, go ahead. Can we just say it's safe to assume that this decrease, looking at another slide in the BCDC presentation that has our priorities about removing marine debris, removing unoccupied vessels, that most of these were marine debris or unoccupied vessels? |
| 01:55:05.72 | John Rohrabacher | Yeah, so we applied the council's priorities to all of our work in the last two years. So, frankly, the easy work first was mooring balls and boats that were sinking marine debris, those accounted for a set number of boats, and then we started looking at those boats that were simply using soft-fitted water to store, or the owners were using the soft-fitted water to store their boats. And so then we went after those, you know, applying, you know, our enforcement consistently, but with also a significant amount of outreach before each and every step meeting with people and even when it comes to posting a notice on a boat and sending out mail to them, letting them know that we were gonna take some sort of action. So some boats were destroyed, some boats were impounded, Some votes were claimed after being impounded, but not brought back to Sausalito. Some boats were... actually put in marinas after they were impounded or right before being impounded because the people that owned them got the message that they could no longer use saucer to water for free and decided to make a better choice. And so there's a wide variety of what happened in those boats with some of those boats. |
| 01:56:16.14 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | THE END OF THE END OF THE Do you have a corresponding slide that shows the number of people living on the water in Sausalito waters? at these times and now. |
| 01:56:25.57 | John Rohrabacher | You know, I did not prepare one for that. I think that we maybe could do that. I'd have to go back and look at it. Like right now, I know out of the 18, we think that there's between eight and ten of the boats have people living on them some of them are Well, the council agreed in January of this year to create the legacy anchor route status. And so those people that fit that that have been in the last 22 or 23 surveys are... people we're not paying any attention to. They're fine, they're usually skilled mariners, their boats are fine, they're not going anywhere, they're not breaking loose and floating away. And so that accounts for some of those votes. Some of them are, hopefully, actually, we've forwarded their names as candidates for Safe Harbor. We'll talk about that in a little bit. And then there's at least three that are... I'll give you back. at the moment, and then one was unoccupied with the person that owns it, was in serious medical straits, and he passed away. So there's, like I said, there's a story to each and every one of those boats. So we just left his boat alone. There was no sense in adding misery to his family by... you know, posting a vote for removal knowing full well that the owner was in the hospital. So it's like that. That's what I mean when I say that every vote of 18 has a story. |
| 01:57:45.86 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Okay, thank you. |
| 01:57:46.77 | John Rohrabacher | Sure. If you'd like, I could go back and probably find out more information about that. |
| 01:57:51.33 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Yeah, I would be interested in that information. |
| 01:57:52.85 | John Rohrabacher | The President. |
| 01:57:53.81 | Councilmember Cox | And some of that information was published in the February report that was provided to the council. |
| 01:58:00.01 | John Rohrabacher | I'm not sure some of it was. I just don't recall it or didn't bring anybody with me. |
| 01:58:06.70 | John Rohrabacher | So part of our survey work is to determine how many boats are new, and we, We're concerned early in the process that as we did all this work, that we would simply be creating the visual effect of more open water, inviting more people to come in and more our anchor in it. And so, again, the council responded to our concern by agreeing that after... again, in doing this in January, but effective with the November 18th survey, any new boats at that point, were eligible for the three-day notice that they needed to move on. And some of them are easy, some of them are not. You'll see that at the very end of that, we have one brand new vote. It's a bit challenging. The people that are on it are declaring themselves a sovereign citizen and not subject to our rules. So that requires a little extra touch to work that through. because we are absolutely not going to just throw them in the water. And so there's a little bit of work involved. So it's just a boat. But we know about it, and it's there. And we've made contact with them. |
| 01:59:15.71 | John Rohrabacher | So this is a screenshot, it's a little bit squished looking, but it's a screenshot of a, product that we're using that's a combination of a software product called First Two that allows us to add in the results of what our GIS analyst, Sage Tzak, creates for us every month, and then visually map it in a way that's different than what you've seen sometimes in her other presentations, the PDF format with the little tiny dots all over it. So what we were looking at with this is a way to visualize the votes as they exist. This is from, I think, maybe the June... the June survey, the blue icons are ours. Yeah. yellow ones, much to the surprise of the people in Belvedere, that that's 15 of them in Belvedere. and about 188 or so green dots in the, uh, County waters. And so, Behind each of those icons is a significant data set. I didn't bring that to do live tonight, but I'm happy to show it some other time. We did demonstrate that in a live version to BCDC last Friday, and we're going to – and I've done that before in smaller groups, and we're happy to do it again. Just want to take the time for that tonight. But that's what that looks like to us, and it's very grabbing. Thank you. I think attention-grabbing when you look at that and see that at one point, a couple years ago there would have been in excess of 70 close to 80 Blue Dots in South Sudan. |
| 02:01:03.13 | John Rohrabacher | Okay, so unless you have questions about enforcement, I'm going to move on to Safe Harbor. Okay, so the State Harbor program is a really exciting thing for us because now, like I said, we are talking about real people here in our water on those boats and we want an opportunity to provide them a hand, to help them get off the water and live in a more safe environment with the opportunity for employment and to be self-sustaining. And so to that end, and you've heard all this from us before, we were last before you in June. providing the basic information about Project Safe Harbor, which you approved us to move forward with. And at this point, I believe we have all of our agreements signed with the Ritter Center, so they're fully on board now as our case management provider for the people that are going to be part of Safe Harbor. We have already sent them a list of four candidates with a potential five and six on there that still require a bit more work from us, but in order to help them, Ritter Center. So they're already reaching out, they already went out today to start the contact process and they're going to work on that in the next few days. I'm meeting with the case manager who's going to be assigned to Richardson Bay next Monday afternoon to help that person get acquainted with our water in our jurisdiction. So I'm very excited about that part. We've been looking forward to this for a long time. So that's where we are with the Ritter Center helping us. They're gonna be really the primary workers here the case management is clearly not a law enforcement task and so with The funding that was originally talked about at the June meeting We asked and you approved for us to have about twenty five thousand dollars in seed money Knowing that we were going to apply for other monies, but the timing of that would be a little late and We needed some money to get started and One of our goals with our project is to hopefully get some of these people that are living a life that's a little bit dangerous, in fact a lot dangerous, off of the water before the winter. And so to that end, we, and you'll see later, I have a slide specifically about the cash funds, is that that money we may not see until the end of this calendar year. And so it's good to have in our back pocket the $25,000 that you approved already. But I know that the city manager has had discussions with other entities. One in particular, I think, is the Rent Community Foundation. And they are listening and sound like willing to be of assistance. But I'm sure it's like a lot of things. They want to see what we're doing first with our money before they throw some of theirs in. I'm sure that they will see they will not be at least disappointed at all that this is a really worthy project. and should we find ourselves in need of a little bit of extra money, I'm hoping that they will see they will not be at least disappointed at all that this is a really worthy project. And should we find ourselves in need of a little bit of extra money, I'm hoping they will still be as interested as they are right now to helping others. So the California Emergency Solutions and Housing Fund has been a one of my projects for the last six months or so, working with the County Health and Human Services and learning another whole new set of acronyms that are already plugging up my crowded head of acronyms already. you This one I'm remembering because it's got a lot of value to us, maybe close to like $165,000 worth of value. And so I went to several different meetings and workshops, some of them accompanied by the city manager, and it looks like we're moving forward. I'll talk more about it when we get to the next slide about it. So then the other thing that's going to be some of the discussion tonight for you, please, is to provide us any kind of input or... discussion about our pollution insurance coverage and maybe some alternatives. So we know that as we look forward to bringing up to eight vessels into the marinas, that it's highly likely that the candidates that we choose will not have any vessel insurance. and so we're looking for ways that we can bridge that gap. We don't expect our marinas to take a vessel without it, they're largely concerned with pollution issues. And so the cost of that is a factor, there's a couple different alternatives, I'm gonna talk about that in another slide coming up. So that's a little road map about what we're gonna talk about with Project Safe Harbor. |
| 02:05:45.76 | John Rohrabacher | So this is the breakdown about the cash funds. So the RFP is going to come out on October 1st. there's approximately $165,000 available For that, our project meets the criteria for cash funds, which was very exciting for us to learn. The proposals will be due in November. We don't write that. Actually, Ritter Center will take care of writing the proposal, of course, with any assistance they need from... the police department or other city staff And then the announcements and the award should come out before the end of the year. So that's kind of the timeline about that. The last timeline about when it's going to come out is a little bit fuzzy still from state but that's the general anticipation from the people that the county who actually funnel the money through us. The state gives them the money and they give the money to us. So one thing we did learn, and it's a really important I The thing to know is we have to be careful not to spend money we don't have. So if we did not have the $25,000 seed money, we would be stuck at this particular moment. because any money we spend now and before the money is awarded, we don't get back. So it's not like any part of that $25,000 that we spend that we're not going to be paid back on. So we're advancing it, and it's gone. but to a very good use. So I want to make sure that's really clear about the cash funds. If you have questions about it, I'll answer one for you. |
| 02:07:18.38 | Mayor Burns | Let's, since we're talking about money and the use, let's clarify that the 25 that we're talking about and the 25 that we've already... |
| 02:07:18.99 | John Rohrabacher | of the country. |
| 02:07:26.73 | Mayor Burns | you |
| 02:07:26.82 | John Rohrabacher | you |
| 02:07:27.01 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. Appropriated that's coming out of our tidalets fund. Yes, correct. So it is Water use tide use as opposed to the general fund paying for this type of that's process Which want to clarify that I don't think it was mentioned here But I think as people start looking at how we're spending this and where it's coming from it. That's an important |
| 02:07:30.48 | John Rohrabacher | Yes. |
| 02:07:35.00 | John Rohrabacher | Yeah. |
| 02:07:35.24 | Lisa Chilino | That's right. Thank you. |
| 02:07:37.99 | John Rohrabacher | That's correct. |
| 02:07:51.14 | John Rohrabacher | Okay, so moving on to our work with the BCDC, I actually can't even count how many meetings we've had with them, those of us that are on the city's waterfront management working group. It includes Councilmembers Cox and Hoffman, the city manager, myself, and of course people from the many different agencies working in Richardson Bay. presented to them in February. You've heard our report from that. There's been a lot of publicity about it. The BCD generally was highly supportive about the work that we have been doing and to meet our obligation to address the crowding on Richardson Bay and the illegal infill of the bay. So that was a good thing for us to hear about from them back in February. They told us at that time that they would be inviting us back to present again in about six months. That six months happens to be this Thursday. So this Thursday morning, we're heading back to San Francisco to again present to the BCDC with an update on our efforts. But in order to make sure that we focused our really scant amount of time that's available to us on Thursday to address the points we think they wanted to hear. We met with them last Friday. and the President of the Office of Members Cox and Hoffman and Probationary Captain Frost and I all went to San Francisco together to And we actually, they gave us about two hours of their time. And so it was very valuable. for us we could answer all their questions and present a lot of visual and statistical data to them. and understand from them then how to tailor our presentation time on Thursday. So I believe that was accomplished. And we all felt pretty good about leaving that meeting knowing that we had clear direction for Thursday. |
| 02:09:58.31 | John Rohrabacher | So that's just to recap. We did that on Friday. I already talked about that. and this Thursday we're going back. And so we I don't know where we are on the agenda, but I believe we're speaking somewhere down towards the end because they want to hear from the people from RBOA first and then us after that. |
| 02:10:24.44 | John Rohrabacher | Okay, so we're back to the motions to talk about these, and then after this is done, then I have the slides that we would like you to look at that we would like to show to BCDC on Thursday. Okay. So this is what we're looking at. I'm hoping you'll just receive and file the report that I just gave you. and then approve the presentation slides after. Maybe I should have done that in reverse because you haven't seen them yet, to prove something you didn't see. And then this is the alternatives related to the pollution coverage. At the moment, I just have to say, we're not at the finish line with it yet. There are some alternatives. that were exploring Thank you. We are trying to spend, frankly, as little money as we can get away with on it, and yet still provide the requirement, minimum requirement that the marinas need. to accept our, you know, safe harbor vessels in their marinas. but as a And those were the basically the three options in addition to we would like you to authorize city manager to have a little bit more money in his pocket for obtaining pollution coverage after we explore those other alternatives. So I don't have much more detail on them other than we're working on it either as of today. So... |
| 02:11:37.55 | Lisa Chilino | Thank you. |
| 02:11:50.80 | John Rohrabacher | That's that. If you want to wait until after you see the BCDC slides. Let's do a round. |
| 02:11:53.88 | Mayor Burns | We'll do a round of questions right now to see what we have for you. Is there any questions for the chief to this point? |
| 02:11:58.93 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Yeah, I have a question. So could you just clarify what we would not have insurance for? So we have the boats themselves would be insured. Is that correct? |
| 02:12:12.82 | John Rohrabacher | The question is the votes are insured? Thank you. |
| 02:12:15.80 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 02:12:15.85 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 02:12:15.87 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | I'm not. |
| 02:12:15.95 | Mary Wagner | Can I jump in there, Chief? Go ahead. Is that okay? So let me give you a little bit. |
| 02:12:16.39 | John Rohrabacher | Thank you. |
| 02:12:16.58 | Ray Withey | Thank you. |
| 02:12:16.61 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. Can I jump in? |
| 02:12:18.00 | John Rohrabacher | Go ahead. |
| 02:12:21.37 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Let me give you a. I'm sorry. Okay. Go ahead. |
| 02:12:26.30 | Mary Wagner | A little bit more background. So when we reached out to the marina operators to talk about this program through the good hard work of Council Member Cox, they indicated that they were willing but that we needed to meet the insurance requirements that they have for other boats that are in their... |
| 02:12:27.52 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:12:45.49 | Mary Wagner | their marina. Those included general liability coverage and this pollution coverage we've been talking about tonight. So general liability coverage, we've worked with Bay City's, our insurance pool, to get that coverage confirmed. We have a certificate of insurance ready to go. for the marina operator that we believe will be first in line. So because it's a city program, it falls within our general liability coverage. The pollution exclusion or pollution coverage was a different animal. We don't carry it. We don't have it in our policies because we don't own marinas and we don't operate them. We had conversations with our carrier and then with the broker that they utilized to try and obtain a rider and we weren't able to find anything that was available. Then we also looked at other options, like having the boat owner acquire the coverage. And we're sort of discouraged from doing that because, you know, financially that policy could be canceled without any notice to us, and those funds would go back to the boat owner. So we're continuing, as the chief indicated, to try and explore other options. Working with the marina operators, continuing to beat the bushes to see if there's some other viable coverage that could meet their concerns and our own. And then also, reducing the risk of liability by inspecting the vessels, making sure that they're in sound condition and doing work on them if necessary to get them in a place where they would be more safe. |
| 02:14:26.28 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Okay, thanks for that. So our liability would be restricted to any spill or other pollution caused by a boat in the marina. |
| 02:14:42.19 | Mary Wagner | Yes, I mean that would be, so our general liability coverage applies. We have a $50,000 SIR on that. But we would be going bare, if you will, on the pollution coverage. And then working with the marina operators to determine what kind of assurances they would need. in order to allow that vessel to occupy their marina if we do not have that coverage. |
| 02:15:05.47 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | But other individual occupants of slips in the marinas have this type of pollution insurance. |
| 02:15:12.43 | Mary Wagner | It's my understanding that they do. I believe their lease slip rental agreements have some flexibility, which is where this third bullet point came up, the sub-item 3C, that we want to talk with them to see if that's something that would be available to us as well. And I believe it includes a little bit of a different slip rate if you don't carry that coverage. And I need to have more conversations with the marina operators to figure out what that would actually look like. |
| 02:15:40.51 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Okay, thanks. Thank you. |
| 02:15:42.66 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. |
| 02:15:43.13 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 02:15:45.24 | Mayor Burns | All right, let's get to that other deck. Okay. |
| 02:15:51.77 | John Rohrabacher | Thank you. you |
| 02:15:53.51 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | you |
| 02:16:03.31 | John Rohrabacher | Okay, so these are the slides, there's about 20 of them that we would like to show on Thursday, but looking for your feedback. and any discussion items related to them. |
| 02:16:18.95 | John Rohrabacher | So we are providing a little bit of background just to remind them, they've only seen us once, so we wanna make sure that they just remember the story about us leaving Richardson Bay Regional Agency and that we still I'm we still work together and our teamwork is Thank you. just never ends, it's just too important. And so we talked about that last Friday quite a bit as well. And then... just mentioning again about our subcommittees continuing to work together. And again, this is just to remind the enforcement committee about those efforts. and then we remind them about our priorities that got us to this point and led to our success. These are the council approved priorities. with removing green debris and the unoccupied vessels and making sure vessels are registered. and then we're concerned about people who are endangered themselves or others on the water. But then the lowest party, we added in those legacy folks in January. |
| 02:17:31.89 | John Rohrabacher | So then this was a recap of the council meeting in January where we modified the priorities set by council and that we wanted to be up front with them that |
| 02:17:44.53 | Lisa Chilino | Amen. |
| 02:17:49.39 | John Rohrabacher | We felt that the success we were having in removing marine debris and unoccupied boats and such, would buy us a little bit of leeway in that we were not going to kick out the legacy anchor outs even though in maybe the purest sense that's exactly what bcdc wants if they wanted the water clear of all boats and that we adopted a attitude of through attrition and then our safe harbor project would get us to that point and so again we've stated many times to them and to others that we frankly have no desire or intention to make people who are on the water become shoreside homeless. It would be so counterproductive. However, we also don't want to see anybody else die this coming winter because of how hard it is to live on the water. |
| 02:18:39.20 | John Rohrabacher | And then also we're just going to remind them that the Coast Guard, especially those people in the Coast Guard from Station Golden Gate, have been just a great help throughout everything that we do. Thank you. That also leads to this other as a reminder to them about, this is about the white paper, the one where we have made the determination or learned it from the attorneys that we hired that just confirmed what we already believed was that the Code of Federal Allegations already said this. It's just that so many people didn't believe us. Amen. And so that provides part of the roadmap for support of our work. And this is to show, you saw this typical, this is a slide that you saw on our own slide deck tonight. We just wanted to remind them of this decrease in the amount of boats on the bay based on our work. And again, this same slide. And then this one as well. And then we want to talk about the Safe Harbor Project with them, the enforcement committee. We want them to understand more about it. And because, frankly, in February, I don't believe we talked about it with them at all. It was not even yet a thought to get this far. So this will be all new for them to hear about it. My total goal here is just like it says, create that re-entry housing for anchor office. |
| 02:20:07.54 | John Rohrabacher | So this is our... concept statement that we want them to understand. |
| 02:20:18.09 | John Rohrabacher | This has a lot more detail about the concept. A lot of this you have seen already in the June presentation, so I'm happy to give you more detail, but I think you've seen it all already. I'm just sort of making up for the fact that you didn't get this until after one o'clock today. |
| 02:20:28.40 | Councilmember Hoffman | I don't know. |
| 02:20:34.34 | John Rohrabacher | you And then this is about the money. Again, the mayor just asked about the money coming from the Tide Lands Fund. This is in this slide for them to see and then about the cash funds, and maybe up to some other matching money later from the community foundation. and other things that we're looking at. None of them actually nailed down solid yet, but we're not going to turn our back to other possible funding opportunities. We just learned last week about something called the Coastal Trust Fund, which this is actually three words and a question mark is all we know about it, so I can't really elaborate more on that, and that we would always be looking for any other opportunity out there. |
| 02:21:16.26 | Mayor Burns | Chief, on this, since we're going to them Thursday, and by then we'll have approved this additional money, we could put 25 plus or more than the seed money, more than 25 that we're seeding. |
| 02:21:25.12 | John Rohrabacher | You know, I think that if we have that far away, I'd really, just for speaking for myself, just to start with, is that even if we had eight willing people, it would be tough to put eight people in at one time and try and manage it. |
| 02:21:26.92 | Mayor Burns | so they know we have |
| 02:21:40.51 | John Rohrabacher | So we're really hoping for a slower entry that we get one, two, or three right off the bat, and depending on our partners at Ritter Center and how that goes, because I'd really like this to be successful, and I'd feel really bad if we jumped in with eight from the get-go, and then somehow we would just let something fall through the cracks that we didn't think about. So in a deliberate way, you know, we're going to feed people in, you know, and then so that we don't necessarily have to worry about |
| 02:22:07.61 | Mayor Burns | Yeah, I agree with that. |
| 02:22:14.34 | John Rohrabacher | burning up all that $25,000 and not have any cash funds yet. That's sort of my answer. is that we're incremental, enrollment into Safe Harbor and spending that money a little bit at a time and making it last until the money comes from the state or that we have already more confidence that we would have some other support money like from the Marine Community Foundation. |
| 02:22:40.38 | Mayor Burns | is want to demonstrate that we have put substantial potential monies towards this effort. We have skin in the game as a town. because we're allocating now nearly 50,000, and you're saying we're gonna start off with a slow body count. THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:22:58.64 | John Rohrabacher | Well, I don't think we're, I don't know if that's exactly right. So we're allocating the 25. You approved that actually in June. The other funds that we're asking for for you to consider tonight, I believe are solely focused on making sure that we're able to meet the pollution coverage issue. |
| 02:23:15.43 | Mayor Burns | No, I get it, but we've allocated up to $50,000 to this point. |
| 02:23:15.45 | John Rohrabacher | Thank you. you know, |
| 02:23:19.72 | Mayor Burns | after tonight's vote. |
| 02:23:24.09 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. |
| 02:23:24.10 | John Rohrabacher | Okay, go ahead. |
| 02:23:24.98 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. |
| 02:23:28.56 | John Rohrabacher | And then we want to make sure they hear from us about how important it is to continue to collaborate with the FAR VRA. |
| 02:23:29.39 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:23:31.82 | Burke Dunphy | important it is. |
| 02:23:32.64 | Lisa Chilino | Thank you. |
| 02:23:34.62 | Burke Dunphy | Thank you. |
| 02:23:36.79 | John Rohrabacher | There are some important details in here that we want to make sure you approve us going forward with saying that. |
| 02:23:49.74 | John Rohrabacher | We support RBRA taking the steps they did at their July meeting to started forcing a 72 hour rule. for them new boats. So all those green dots that you saw in that screenshot. Those are basically all grandfathered in. but they have to start somewhere, and they're starting with this, And so we support them in that. I'm not sure. We know that they are short-handed and have a brand new harbor administrator. who just has a lot to learn, a pretty steep learning curve. When we did some of the vessel surveys for Sausalito, we offered to do them for the rest of Richardson Bay as well, so that they would have the same baseline to work with we did. And so we have done that now twice. We did that in in June and we just did it over the weekend. so that as we developed any kind of new information that we shared it with RBRA. and we offered the use of our hardware and software licenses and they actually, Arbieri hired SAGE on their own to do a couple different surveys of their water. but we saved them over $10,000 because we already bought the equipment and the license for the GIS software. But again, our intention is not to try and strike out entirely alone, but to keep them with us as much as possible. And so with that, when we learned that Bill Price was going to retire. not knowing how quick they might be able to get another Harbor Master on board. we offered to step in and help them with some of the really easy stuff, the marine debris and the mooring balls, much like we did two years ago. It helped us get a head start on our work. They actually didn't take us up on it, only in that they hired the new harbormaster, it seemed like, within a very short amount of time. That's that. And so we did get a chance to get in there and help them out, but we have since, though, involved the new harbor master in everything that we're doing already. In fact, he came out on our boat with our marine survey crew on Saturday to see exactly how it is that we collect that data because he needs tools to work with. We found them invaluable for us, and we're sure that will be very valuable to Curtis Apple, the new guy. Just think about having 180-some boats out there in that water plus the 15 or so that are in Belvedere and then trying to determine if you're brand new, which one's new. which of the new boats is brand new that's gonna get a 72 hour notice. This would be nearly impossible. So we want to help them be successful, and we're committed to doing that. and as much as possible. but they did not take us up on the big package of helping them clean up a lot of stuff. |
| 02:26:52.48 | John Rohrabacher | So we wanted to again remind BCDC about our track record of success and that you know we don't believe that the morning plan comes first we think that cleaning up the bay first and then looking at what's left if there's going to be some kind of a mooring field or study rather than they're publicly stated approach is establish the mooring field, pick a number. I couldn't even make one up, but let's say 50 or 100 even. get some people in it, and then figure out what to do with all the rest of the votes. And we just don't agree about that, so our approaches are 180 degrees different about what would be the most successful. I Five. |
| 02:27:42.85 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Can I just ask procedurally, are we making comments on slides as we go? |
| 02:27:47.83 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:27:47.84 | Mayor Burns | Yeah, let's just do that. We've got to get through this. |
| 02:27:50.02 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Okay, so I have comments on this. |
| 02:27:50.16 | Councilmember Hoffman | Okay. |
| 02:27:53.12 | John Rohrabacher | Thank you. |
| 02:27:53.24 | Mayor Burns | you comments or questions? |
| 02:27:54.64 | John Rohrabacher | Thank you. |
| 02:27:54.66 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. |
| 02:27:54.69 | John Rohrabacher | Thank you. |
| 02:27:55.77 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | comments. |
| 02:27:59.57 | John Rohrabacher | Let me go back. |
| 02:28:00.20 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | I do not agree with the statement that we have we do not think moorings are a necessary tool to enforce a waterfront management plan so I'll just note that and we can discuss Again, I appreciate your comments about the fact that we just got this today at 1.30. I had no ability to look at this before you started your presentation. So I also don't. We didn't have our BRA's mooring study in our materials for today so I don't I cannot support the statement that the study fails to demonstrate feasibility of placement of mooring balls in specific areas of Richardson Bay. I don't even understand what that means. So I would not be comfortable saying that. I don't. I think the other bullets are fine. |
| 02:29:05.32 | John Rohrabacher | Would you need me to go back one slide? No. |
| 02:29:07.56 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Yeah. |
| 02:29:13.67 | John Rohrabacher | And then the last point that we would continue to make with the enforcement committee at BCDC is that We are the only location. where all those votes, whether they're are blue dots, yellow dots from Belvedere, or green dots from the county water. Nobody's coming out of the water anyplace else other than Sausalito in a variety of locations, but nobody's going out anywhere else. And so the shoreside access and burden fall squarely on Sausalito. |
| 02:29:51.54 | John Rohrabacher | And this is just a summary for them about our concerns about safety. And they bear repeating only because of safety not only for the people that live out there, but the safety of the first responders. One of our very own fire captains was in severe peril this last winter, being trapped between the rescue boat and the dock. and happy that it turned out okay. It's a drain on resources, just like it was when we had the fire. And so we're just... |
| 02:30:22.54 | Lisa Chilino | Thank you. |
| 02:30:22.64 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:30:22.67 | Lisa Chilino | Thank you. |
| 02:30:25.94 | John Rohrabacher | stating some historical things about what we've experienced to support our position. |
| 02:30:34.05 | John Rohrabacher | And then a few pictures, they specifically asked us to include some photos. And so these are some from the winter storm, boat on the rocks over in the Tiburon Black East Pasture area. Thank you. I blow it upside down in the bay. Thank you. another boat on the Belvedere-Tipperant shoreline and another one upside down in the bay. And then we are also seeing now some impacts to the dock in Galley Harbor that's open to the public to use and it's causing some issues for the co-op at Galley Harbor and the crowding of that dock is pretty significant. And so there's a lot more to that story with them, but they have themselves reached out to BCDC for some assistance in the conditions. that require them to have that dock there because it's adversely affecting their quality of life. So that's what those are about. |
| 02:31:46.42 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | I'm sorry, can I ask a question going back to the overview of public safety impacts related to the waterfront? |
| 02:31:50.64 | John Rohrabacher | Thank you. |
| 02:31:54.77 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Is this slide meant to convey that we, Sausalito, are spending our resources aiding people in county waters, or that? these are issues related to boats in our waters. |
| 02:32:09.98 | John Rohrabacher | Actually both. So for instance, on the fatality last winter, The boat itself was in county water. The people that were in the dinghy that capsized were leaving from Saucedo Marina in the storm and then the resources to respond. In a call like that are typically all hands on deck. So then of course the fire, All right. The rescue personnel went out. The Sausalito boat went out. the other fireboats from Tiburon and that area went out So everybody's going to go in a situation like that was described. And so, but that's not. that's not unique it's unique in that someone died in that event But we all help each other out. It's just how that goes. And then none of us are so large that we don't do that. So our work is not solely related to Sausalito. |
| 02:33:07.91 | Councilmember Cox | Okay, I guess... This is actually a slide that was approved by this council in January of 2019 for our February BCDC presentation. It's an exact duplicate. |
| 02:33:09.09 | John Rohrabacher | Thank you. |
| 02:33:18.29 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Okay. I, that's fine, I just, I mean, We've had public comments since then, and I think a lot of people have rightly pointed out that we provide a lot of emergency services to all of our residents everywhere that put a lot of impact on our emergency responders. And so I think it's more to what extent is this disproportionate to other residents or are we serving people outside of Sausalito? I mean, otherwise I'm not exactly sure. I mean, we don't talk about what the impacts |
| 02:33:56.31 | Mayor Burns | I think if there's loss of life, we do talk about how to mitigate the possible loss of life. |
| 02:33:58.79 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Yeah, I agree. It's not all of these. It's just, anyway, all right. I'll leave this for now, but... We've had quite a number of people come and comment that this it is the responsibility of our first responders to serve people within the jurisdiction of Sausalito. So if it's to either note disproportionate impacts or that we are also addressing issues outside of our jurisdiction, then I think that's relevant. |
| 02:34:28.25 | John Rohrabacher | Sure, so the answer to that is that we go to every call that we're asked to go to. And so the jurisdiction lines, the only law enforcement on the water is, of course, the bigger picture is the Coast Guard, but there's the Sheriff's Office and us, Los Lito Police. Thank you. When a call for service comes in that requires law enforcement, it could be easily that a Sao Suido police boat with Sao Suido people on it go to a call for service in County Water. It's just a matter of who's on duty and who's got the limited resources to be able to respond. |
| 02:35:13.92 | John Rohrabacher | Number one. Thank you. |
| 02:35:16.43 | Councilmember Cox | Can I just say one more thing in response to that at our meeting on Friday, BCDC expressed concern that RBRA has not been moving towards reduction of the boats on its water. In fact, the number of occupied boats has been steadily increasing all since April or May of this year. And they specifically asked us to address the impacts to Sausalito of RBRA's failure to enforce its policies on its waters. And so, I think we're not providing new information. We're not trying to be divisive. This is a repeat of historical information that we already presented to them in February. |
| 02:36:03.38 | Mayor Burns | So, but for some reason we're doing it tonight. Because you have a committee that has met with BCDC and they asked you to do something. You're going back to them to do that, yet we're, for some reason, opining on what you're going to say to them, though they've asked you what to say to them. And we're using regurgitated information to say that. So I don't know if that requires as much time as we're giving it at this point. |
| 02:36:28.98 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | you |
| 02:36:32.30 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | you you |
| 02:36:39.37 | John Rohrabacher | So go ahead. |
| 02:36:47.14 | John Rohrabacher | So this is our request of BCDC is we would like them to, again, be clear about their policies for Richardson Bay. We want them to... CONTINUE TO ALLOW US TO have our legacy anchor out population that will decrease by attrition rather than by enforcement. We're only talking about a handful of people now. But again, we didn't want to try and hide anything from them about what we're doing. We are asking them to consider the increase in the living board allocations from 10% to 15%. They were willing to commit to that on Friday, but they did listen to us, and they listened a lot about our Safe Harbor project. And so, the rest of that is talking about all the regional issues about geograss Uh, goal that RBRA, I'm sorry, BCDC has to preserve or protect the environment and the things that are being done that are actually contrary to that, we believe that we're going in the right direction to address those things. And of course the whole issue about bay fill. You know, once we remove boats, that's less fill. We just don't see that happening in Everywhere else, it looks like right now it's just us. |
| 02:38:22.66 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | So I apologize to my fellow council members, but I think I am... often in the minority on this issue anyway I do not think that we art. I do not agree that our policy is to allow Sausalito to continue our existing plan to reduce legacy and grout population through the safe harbor and attrition. My understanding of our policy is that we are maintaining a legacy Anchor Out population and we are also pursuing mitigation strategies to help people who would like to come off the water through the Safe Harbor Program. and that we recognize that there's attrition over time. It's not my view that we actively adopted a policy to reduce anchor outs in good standing. I don't see that on our priorities. I think that was not a goal. So I would like bullet two, I don't agree with. And so go ahead. |
| 02:39:30.84 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:39:34.65 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, can I just respond to that for a second? The wording of that is in the context of the presentation of BCDC and Council Member Cox, jump in if you have. So when we say We are asking BCDC to allow us to reduce bay fill on our waters that we should have been probably fined for We're asking BCDC to allow us to let those boats, you know, reduce by attrition rather than fining us to the extent – And quite large sums of money that would incentivize us or make it force us to remove those boats, right? So that's the context of that statement. I agree with your comments about perhaps that We're not, I mean, the policy here is to let the anchor out, the population that's there now, slowly reduce through, Whatever natural methods they may reduce through one. We're trying, we're, The voluntary process of the Safe Harbor Program is one process. Another process is they may, The boat may just decide to leave and go someplace else. That's attrition too. Or travel around the world. Or travel around the world as we have seen. And so that's the context of that statement. That we want to support BCDC and the McAteer Petrus Act that talks about Richardson Bay as a natural resource. It's public lands, it's public trust that we have and BCDC has to support that. And the environmental issues that you have with regard to the impact that that has on the eelgrass and the rest of the environmental issues that we have and we want to support out on Richardson Bay. That's the context of that bullet. |
| 02:41:27.63 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Okay, but BCDC hasn't taken any enforcement action or required us to do that, and they haven't actually voted as a body to do that. Well, they said they give direction. I believe they're about to. They did give direction. |
| 02:41:27.75 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 02:41:35.85 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:41:35.88 | Councilmember Cox | I believe they're about to. Yeah. |
| 02:41:38.68 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 02:41:38.72 | Councilmember Cox | Well, first of all, they got called on the carpet by the state of California after a couple of months ago for their failure to enforce their objectives of reducing Bayfill. So, and we were asked to return to the BCDC Enforcement Committee on Thursday, the enforcement committee, to demonstrate our continued progress towards reducing |
| 02:41:38.84 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | First of all, they got called on the car. |
| 02:42:02.58 | Councilmember Cox | the amount of bay fill as we're required to do by law. So it doesn't seem prudent for us to say, allow us to just maintain our legacy anchor out population when they're |
| 02:42:13.36 | Lisa Chilino | Filter. |
| 02:42:17.38 | Councilmember Cox | direction to us and to our BRA is to continue to make efforts to reduce the number of votes. |
| 02:42:24.01 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | I don't agree with this statement, so if I'm going to be out-rooted on it, that's I don't. We have not had a discussion. and a full blown, we keep getting these discussions about the waterfront in the context of what we're gonna say to BCDC. So that's all we're talking about, we're just talking about you a reaction to slides as opposed to creating our own policy and we had a policy of years before I was on the council |
| 02:42:54.76 | Councilmember Cox | So we did. We did create a policy in January of 2018 to allow our legacy anchor outs to remain unless they leave our waters, in which case we agreed in. |
| 02:43:06.03 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Yes, but we did not adopt a policy to reduce that. |
| 02:43:09.13 | Councilmember Cox | If they leave our waters, that is reducing them. And we did adopt the Safe Harbor Program in June. |
| 02:43:09.37 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | if they I did adopt. |
| 02:43:16.25 | Councilmember Cox | which is another means. |
| 02:43:16.36 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | which is another means. My particular policy objective in adopting the Safe Harbor Program was to provide an excellent alternative to people, and you also agreed, to people who want to take advantage. Exactly, exactly. Right, yeah, 100%. |
| 02:43:29.27 | Councilmember Cox | Exactly. Yeah. But a side. The effect of that is that those people who participate in Safe Harbor, Ritter has an 85% success rate in maintaining permanent housing for people. That's great. So it's likely that the people who participate in Safe Harbor will |
| 02:43:43.32 | Lisa Chilino | Thank you. |
| 02:43:43.36 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | FOR PEOPLE. |
| 02:43:43.78 | Lisa Chilino | Thank you. |
| 02:43:49.16 | Councilmember Cox | not return to our open waters. |
| 02:43:51.79 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | So that's great. It's a question of our objective. Are we creating the Safe Harbor Program to remove them, or are we creating the Safe Harbor Program because it's the right thing to do? |
| 02:44:02.97 | Councilmember Cox | to be able to get the |
| 02:44:03.02 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Well, for me, it's not both. |
| 02:44:03.15 | Councilmember Cox | I, both. Well, we are obligated to follow the law, which is to reduce the number of boats on our waters. The Safe Harbor Program is a compassionate way to accomplish that and to assist the folks who would like that assistance. |
| 02:44:21.93 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Okay, so that's another slide I objected. |
| 02:44:29.59 | Councilmember Cox | I think that's it. |
| 02:44:31.40 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | that. |
| 02:44:31.67 | Councilmember Cox | you |
| 02:44:31.87 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 02:44:31.92 | Councilmember Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:44:32.02 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. And I also, I wouldn't highlight the eelgrass as strongly as it's there. |
| 02:44:38.52 | Unknown | that's what? |
| 02:44:39.53 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | There's just so much controversial studies about the issue of eelgrass. that I feel like this is not the place to put it. |
| 02:44:49.94 | Ray Withey | Thank you. Yes. Well, I'm... I want to make comments later on, but I would say right now that what this discussion is showing is that there is clear need for a review of our policy because what is written here, the Vice Mayor is, and I can see her point, is basically saying, wait a minute, that's not what we agreed to. Some of you think it is, and the Vice Mayor doesn't think it is. And so I can understand the point that we've gone from introducing the Safe Harbor program to actually introducing the Safe Harbor program to reduce through. And to reduce through is not was the original attention of why the Safe Harbor program. So I think that's – I tend to understand that point. |
| 02:45:47.29 | Adam Politzer | Thank you. |
| 02:45:47.30 | Councilmember Hoffman | True. |
| 02:45:58.00 | John Rohrabacher | Sorry, Reverend Ford. I think that's it. |
| 02:45:59.66 | Mayor Burns | I think you're done. I hope I see what you have. |
| 02:46:02.69 | John Rohrabacher | Thank you. That's it. And then I want to go back to the other. |
| 02:46:10.88 | John Rohrabacher | motions. |
| 02:46:23.33 | John Rohrabacher | you |
| 02:46:23.42 | Brian Littlegreen | Thank you. |
| 02:46:23.45 | John Rohrabacher | Thank you. |
| 02:46:23.50 | Brian Littlegreen | Thank you. |
| 02:46:23.52 | John Rohrabacher | Okay, so we're back to where we started. So this is what we're looking for is just what happened tonight, the discussion and direction about how to proceed. knowing that we have an opportunity to present to the BCDC on Thursday. I to look at the slides for comments and then to provide any direction, if any, or to, about the pollution coverage. If you have something different besides A, B, and C in mind, or as you heard your city attorney describe all that process, but at the end of the day, we would like you to authorize some funds for the city manager to be able to spend in case we find a solution that we can pay for with that dollar amount that would help us out. But again, I would just offer a slight caveat to it that if we are incrementally bringing boats in, say, harbor, If you do approve the city manager to spend money for that coverage for pollution spills, we wouldn't use it all at once because we would only be using it as we bring in each boat. So I'm just saying that that's how that would go. Everything is going to be an incremental build. We have no thought that this is going to be from zero boats in safe harbor to eight in the next two weeks it's going to take a little bit of time so let's just put that in perspective so |
| 02:47:54.02 | Mayor Burns | Great, thank you. Any more questions before I open to public comment? you Seeing none. I'm going to open up public comment on this item. Is there any public comment on this item? Seeing none. on this item. You're here for the waterfront item? OK, please, approach. You have three minutes, Jeff. |
| 02:48:17.17 | Jeffrey Chase | Hi, Jeff Jacob of the 26-foot Bow Sloop Jubilee. anchored across the channel from Sausalito. |
| 02:48:35.09 | Jeffrey Chase | Jeho, all who are thirsty come for water. even if you have no money. |
| 02:48:44.07 | Jeffrey Chase | That's what. the mariners here have done for hundreds, thousands. Tule Reed kayaks. Tall ships. Container ships. Mega yachts. Houseboats. Dry docks. And now... the term anchor house. |
| 02:49:15.41 | Jeffrey Chase | For starters, I'd like to respond to the safe harbor. initiative. I haven't heard and the PROVISIO THAT if somebody on the Anchorage does this, They have to. Agree never to come back. to Sausalito Waters again. |
| 02:49:42.03 | Jeffrey Chase | That's not a way to unite a community. The other way to not unite a community is to divide it between non-Soscelito waters and Sausalito waters. This city council, and the city manager and the police department are making it much more dangerous. by pushing all the boats. away from Sausalito. During the storm, it's a longer row. and paddle. and motor. Also, We're talking about the law. The law right now is not being enforced. It says, The public shall have the right to more votes to a public peer. This is the... Conditional use permit number 327-321. two. The right to more shall be subject to all. Requirements of ordinance number 986 The intent of this condition is to extend for a nominal fee the right to more today visitors. In the Marinship Pacific plan, Same thing, 440 linear square feet or 2% of dock space for public use. Neither of these laws are being enforced now, Why are we bringing new laws into this? I really appreciate... Ms. Knowles and HELPING US WITH The idea that we are not going to solve our issues through attrition. The very word is slightly distasteful. I want to use the word love of all the people. |
| 02:51:19.50 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. any other comments on this item see no other public comments now bring it up here for our final comments as a council who'd like to go first. |
| 02:51:31.45 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Can I just ask, could we just talk about the Safe Harbor program and the insurance issue first and then talk about the BCDC presentation? |
| 02:51:37.98 | Mayor Burns | presentation. |
| 02:51:38.37 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:51:38.45 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. |
| 02:51:38.69 | Councilmember Hoffman | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:51:38.86 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. |
| 02:51:40.75 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | So in terms of the Safe Harbor program, I do want to thank the police chief and Captain Frost and council members Cox and Hoffman for all their hard work on this. I think it's really a great project and really happy that we are pursuing it. I think we did, at least temporarily for the time being, take out the provision that people had to agree not to return to the water. Correct. So I think that is gone for the time being. So I'm really supportive of the program. I'm really proud of all the hard work that's been done. I think it's going to be a great asset for our community and reflect well on our community so i'm supportive i think we can work through these insurance issues with staff i've been convinced by |
| 02:52:07.53 | Councilmember Hoffman | Correct. |
| 02:52:09.42 | Lisa Chilino | Yeah, it's gone. |
| 02:52:35.78 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | the city attorney's responses to questions that the liability is not and manageable that it is contained to pollution aspects and that we can manage that risk through diligent efforts. So I'm very supportive. |
| 02:52:56.20 | Mayor Burns | Any other comments on the Safe Harbor program? There are at least three and four. Thank you. THE END OF Thank you. |
| 02:53:03.93 | Ray Withey | Let me just add, I'm fully supportive. I think I thank all those who are involved. If nothing else, people watching should hopefully appreciate what the chief was saying, that now each number out there is a human being, a person, a real story behind it all. and you know to be honest but I think we're going to be seeing the fact that this is actually quite difficult to achieve it's a great goal but it's actually very difficult to achieve and it's not particularly sustainable or scalable, but we should do it nonetheless. And so I fully support the additional pollution coverage under the city manager's authority and all efforts to try and solve the insurance problem. I'll come back and talk about BCDC later. |
| 02:54:06.43 | Adam Politzer | Okay. Thank you. |
| 02:54:11.80 | Jill Hoffman | I've been addressing and working on this issue since about 2015. And so, Ray, you talk about a hard issue. We've done tremendous work and taken on tremendous responsibilities and efforts with our incredible work of our police department. We have increased the safety in Saucelito waters exponentially. We have received thanks from people living on the water for cleaning up our waters of derelict boats, of floating flotsam, of things that come loose and harm other people in storms. And so that work, me was fundamental before we started. And we all agreed on our phased approach. I think our city staff and particularly our police department has moved through that brilliantly. And I would have thought that it would have been a very credible and example for the rest of the jurisdictions in Richardson Bay. So I'm a little bit disappointed that they have not followed our lead a little bit better in cleaning up the dangerous situation that's out there. Now, we're down to what we always thought would be THE PART OF THE puzzle that was going to be the most challenging. And I think we are leading the way in innovative ways to work our way through that in a compassionate, I'm very proud of the Safe Harbor Program. I think it's cost effective when you look at, do we want to put permanent moorings in our waters, or we just want to solve the problem by giving somebody a stable place to moor their boat with electricity and with water and access to showers and services. And by the way, easy access to transit. And the wrap around of the Ritter Center was a brilliant idea that I think our city manager came up with and has shepherded that. So I'm very pleased with where we are. How this shakes out for these last 18 boats, I mean, we'll see how it goes. This is a pilot program. We're collecting data as we go. But I think that I have high confidence in our process, in our team, and the way forward. And I hope that, anyway, I hope that we've provided the example that other people are confident in following. |
| 02:56:43.71 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. Nice work. |
| 02:56:45.77 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:56:45.78 | Councilmember Cox | We have provided an example for other people. The city of Belvedere is considering a similar program. A city in Orange County is considering a similar program. It's my hope that if this pilot is successful, we do extend it to some of the boats that we deem eligible in RBRA waters. Those boats already avail themselves of our land side services. And so if this is something we can collaborate with RBRA on in a concerted enforcement effort, I would love to see us do that. But I don't want to see us do that but i don't want to see us do that unless there's some management of the of the number of new boats making their way into our bra waters i think we have to demonstrate that we're able to manage our existing population and then i'd love to extend this program assuming it's successful to some of |
| 02:57:18.10 | Lisa Chilino | THE FAMILY. |
| 02:57:42.42 | Councilmember Cox | those Mariners as well, which also include young children and families. So that's my ultimate hope. |
| 02:57:51.88 | Mayor Burns | Thank you and I agree with what's been said I just want to point out what I appreciate the financial aspects one that it comes from the type of money is coming from the Titans fund and this is what the title it's fun should be doing as well as the incremental expenditure as the program grows so we're not just putting money out for potential of loss based on no significant potential positive outcome. So incremental in the fund is to me the part that makes it an easier decision to pass number three and four along. But prior to that, let's now have discussion on the BCDC and then we'll take motions separating the two if needed after the comments on the BCDC. |
| 02:58:42.17 | Mayor Burns | Anybody want to start? Okay. |
| 02:58:46.14 | Ray Withey | On the... So there's... the slides and everything looks fine. I throw some pictures in of the boats with all the debris on that you've had success clear in personally, because that's some of the success that we've managed to achieve. I think the one thing that, from a really sort of rigorous standpoint, there's some statements made in the slides that are almost trying to provide proof points that this method is proving that a mooring field is not necessary. I don't think you've got the proof points to say that. I'm not saying I agree with the mooring field. I'm not saying I disagree with it. I'm just saying you can't make that statement from what we've done. But the bigger pick, so that's my only comment there. That is, you don't have the proof to make that statement. But the bigger picture, I think, is that, and I know we politely talk about RBRA, and I know that's technically the agency that's doing this, But let's the elephant in the room here is very simple. This is the county. This is the county needing to reach alignment with BCDC. and with BCDC, being very clear and giving a very clear signal to the county what it expects and the county agreeing to Until that happens, the big stress and the big danger now, Sol Solito, is the fact that we've got 200 boats in county waters Okay, and it's not, I'm not talking about the individuals on there, I'm talking about the fact that they're a real danger. Some of the people on those boats are literally shouldn't be out there. There's little kids. out there who shouldn't be there. And we are going to, unless the county actually steps up and starts understanding the problem that's out there, more and more people are going to end up with some tragedies. |
| 03:01:00.24 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:01:07.14 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:01:07.51 | Ray Withey | Some tragedies. We already had a fatality last year. And the year before. And the year before. |
| 03:01:13.07 | Adam Politzer | And the year before. And the year before. At least it looked on votes forever. |
| 03:01:16.37 | Ray Withey | Jeff. So, you know, I'm really, really concerned about the fact that there's 200 boats in county waters. And I'm really, really concerned about the impact to our public docks and to our shoreline of that fact. Now, I think that the compassionate, careful, stage-managed approach that our police department and we as a community we take in is actually admirable, and it's the right method. But the county has got to step up and start considering this very seriously, and it currently is not doing so. |
| 03:02:02.09 | Jill Hoffman | So, right, your comment, if I may, why we feel that at least some of us who've been thinking about this a lot for a long time, feel that this shows that a mooring field is not necessary. And here's why. It's because when we started the mooring field conversation back in 2015, I think at that time the proposal was for 200 moorings somewhere off the coast of Sausalito. And the reason for that was the number of boats, and so We can't really control the number of boats out there, and so the way to do is move them all into moorings. And then we'll be able to see where they are, and when people come in behind them, we'll be able to see that too. well we challenged that and said well really what you just need to do is clean up. most of the stuff that's out there, the floating debris, the moorings that are unoccupied, the whatever you want to call it, flotsam that's out there, to get it down to a number of actual boats. And then we'll see what we need in order to manage those boats. And so that's why the idea of the mooring field was always this is something we can't manage. And therefore, we must have a mooring field. We've shown that you can manage it. I mean, there's harbors all over the world that actually manage the boats that are coming in without a mooring field. And so, when you, especially because of the sensitive ecological nature of Richardson Bay, which to my mind has been proven by the Autobahn peer reviewed. scientific study that's been done by numerous other studies that we've been presented with, with the ecological balance of Richardson Bay and the fact that it's subject to the McAteer Petrus Act and so many other laws. That the Bay field that will result from a mooring field is not necessary in order to achieve these goals. And in order to achieve the goals of the McAteer Petrus Act, open waters, ecological balance. Um, And also balancing recreational vessels that are coming and going, right? We want to have a safe place for those people to stay as well. Right now, there is not a safe place for anchor out on out on the bay because you have There's too many boats out there who are occupied or unoccupied and are hazards. So that in a nutshell is why I believe that we feel that at this point in time, a mooring field is not necessary to achieve the goals that have been set up. are the responsibility frankly of BCDC to enforce. And so anyway, that's why we are confident in the approach that we've set out and to achieve the goals of all parties that are interested in what goes on out on Richardson Bay. |
| 03:04:51.06 | Mayor Burns | All right, thank you. I'm just gonna come in here because I know you have a lot and you've stayed. I don't think at this point... the mooring discussion is necessarily ours to present one way or the other you make a case for it and it's I think it's valid and I think we have a lot of information But I don't know if we need to bring it up. If they want to bring it up, if RBA wants to float that boat, so to speak, let them. I think we need to stay adamant on if a mooring field is to be discussed, that it have a CEQA review. That's our stake in the part. But past that, we could actually be silent on it since it wasn't our initiative to bring up in the first place in 2015 so I don't know if we create an agreement policy at this point for it one way or the other necessary for this at this time I would say let them determine that they'll be receiving the information they'll be receiving that from our VRA as well as we just stay diligent on the CEQA approach. |
| 03:06:09.16 | Councilmember Cox | And the land side impacts to Sausalito of any boats in Richardson's Bay. |
| 03:06:12.95 | Mayor Burns | which I hope would be part of the CEQA approval. And that's where we hang our hat because that is our discussion. |
| 03:06:14.67 | Councilmember Cox | Right. |
| 03:06:21.51 | Mayor Burns | to have. And then what was the other element was that I just closed my report here. Um, was the |
| 03:06:29.61 | Councilmember Cox | was the attrition and St. Harbour. |
| 03:06:31.83 | Mayor Burns | Yeah, so we did, in fact... create the policy that the backfill policy is basically the reduction of... So without creating the backfill, then when a boat leaves with no backfill, that's enough. I mean, physics is what determines that we have reduction of legacy boats. |
| 03:06:55.76 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:06:55.88 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:06:58.94 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Right, and that policy is already included in the slides of no new boats. That's on a different slide. We clearly state that we're gonna enforce the 72-hour rule for new boats. |
| 03:07:11.96 | Councilmember Cox | What we're asking is for BCDC not to tell us Thursday, you must immediately remove all boats from your waters. What we're asking them is to allow us to continue our existing policies and allow those boats to... be reduced through attrition or through participation in our safe harbor. because they could tomorrow or Thursday say, we direct you immediately to comply with the provisions of the McAteer, Petrus Act, remove all Bayfield and remove the remaining 18 boats from your waters. |
| 03:07:43.59 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | So, and you think they'd do that with the county having 200 votes? I don't know. |
| 03:07:47.20 | Councilmember Cox | I don't know what they do. The state came down very hard on them and threatened to remove their funding for not carrying out their edict. So what would be the point of us not |
| 03:07:54.34 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | So what would be the point of us not- Joan, I'm just asking to rephrase our request to them. That's all. I'm not disagreeing. But I've already asked and I think- How would you possibly say that? |
| 03:08:03.42 | Jill Hoffman | with that. But I've already asked, and I think... How would you possibly say that? You would say, we don't want to comply with the McIntyre-Petrus Act? I would never... We do that as a city council member or as a representative of a municipal government. We're essentially simply asking for more time. |
| 03:08:15.46 | Councilmember Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:08:15.48 | Lisa Chilino | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:08:15.63 | Councilmember Cox | Thank you. to come back. |
| 03:08:18.03 | Jill Hoffman | PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE |
| 03:08:22.32 | Jill Hoffman | And again, it's in the context of We understand what the purpose of this meeting is with BCDC and we're asking them to give us The ability to do it. to do it not to allow Bayfield for a certain period of time so that it based on our the credibility and the actions that we've taken that they can trust us, to carry out this process that we're trying to implement in a compassionate way. I mean, that's. I don't understand the heartache with that. |
| 03:08:57.97 | Councilmember Cox | as though Susan simply has some edits I'm happy to consider those edits if I could see them perhaps tomorrow since our presentation is Thursday |
| 03:09:05.33 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | We'll see what they are. |
| 03:09:06.53 | Councilmember Cox | Appreciate it. |
| 03:09:06.97 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | that. |
| 03:09:07.37 | Councilmember Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:09:09.06 | Mayor Burns | Do you want to state what that end would be? |
| 03:09:10.12 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | I mean, I've already, so, The purpose of this meeting was not announced to me or the other members of this council until 1.30 today. I was at work. I mean, the purpose of this meeting at BCDC, and that on Thursday it is possible that they will order the county and Sausalito to clear the entire bay, that's actually that what is agendized for them to do so if that's that is a context that is not in the staff report it is not in what we have seen at all i have i am just This is the second time when we met in January or February, we were also reacting to a presentation to BCDC. What I would like and what I asked for at that time is an actual proactive discussion of what we would like to do. We have not had that discussion. I would like to soften the language in our slide to be more respectful to a decision that has not been publicly noticed about a policy that we might be making. We have a policy that we were going to respect anchor outs in good standing and not have any aggressive enforcement actions to reduce that number. |
| 03:10:19.60 | Councilmember Hoffman | to reduce that number. |
| 03:10:21.44 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Right, it looks from the slide that that is not the case. I read the slide differently. So I would like, I will suggest some edits to Joan if the rest of the council, |
| 03:10:27.51 | Councilmember Hoffman | So, |
| 03:10:32.12 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | are comfortable with her just making that call about whether there's something that comports with our responsibilities. Hold on. |
| 03:10:39.32 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:10:39.42 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:10:39.46 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:10:41.97 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | That's fine with me. I mean, |
| 03:10:46.28 | Councilmember Cox | So can we just agree that we will approve the draft presentation slides in substantially the same form as presented? And that would give us the flexibility to... |
| 03:10:46.33 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | So that- |
| 03:11:00.70 | Councilmember Cox | I don't know if that's a Brown Act violation to have Susan communicate with me, Mary, since I already communicate with Jill. |
| 03:11:04.60 | Unknown | Right. |
| 03:11:05.02 | Mayor Burns | since I already |
| 03:11:05.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:11:05.80 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. let's just do it right here. What is, |
| 03:11:10.90 | Councilmember Cox | Well, the problem is timing. So perhaps Susan can communicate with the city manager. |
| 03:11:16.04 | Mayor Burns | I'm trying to find the damn slide. Thank you. |
| 03:11:21.56 | Ray Withey | So this way. Go. Yeah. So, I am comfortable with whatever means the vice mayor communicates the information, then be informed to |
| 03:11:39.58 | Councilmember Cox | Yeah. |
| 03:11:39.99 | Ray Withey | But we have to see. |
| 03:11:41.46 | Councilmember Cox | We are already late, and this is not entirely our fault. We were asking for months to meet with BCDC. We did not get to meet with them until last Friday. And so we've had very little turnaround time for all of this. I understand. And I apologize for the inconvenience to the council. It's not the chief's fault. It's my fault. So I apologize for the quick turnaround time. |
| 03:11:51.36 | Ray Withey | Thank you. |
| 03:11:51.40 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:11:51.43 | Ray Withey | Thank you. |
| 03:11:51.45 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:11:51.48 | Ray Withey | Thank you. I understand. |
| 03:12:02.67 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | How about this? So this is Sausalito requests of BCDC. Yeah. |
| 03:12:14.40 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | you |
| 03:12:14.45 | Jill Hoffman | No. Do you have a page number on the bottom of what you look at? No, 19. |
| 03:12:16.00 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | when you look at that. |
| 03:12:17.55 | Mayor Burns | It's the second to last page of the BCDC deck. |
| 03:12:17.84 | Jill Hoffman | Second. |
| 03:12:18.18 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | THE FAMILY. |
| 03:12:18.25 | Jill Hoffman | to the next episode. |
| 03:12:18.31 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:12:20.29 | Jill Hoffman | I think it's 19. |
| 03:12:20.61 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. This is 14. So we already agreed we're going to remove the morning field discussion. The first two points. Page 19. |
| 03:12:26.92 | Jill Hoffman | 19. |
| 03:12:27.29 | Councilmember Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:12:27.48 | Ray Withey | field discussion. |
| 03:12:28.22 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:12:28.37 | Ray Withey | The first two. Yeah, 19. Page 19. All right. |
| 03:12:31.66 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | There you go, two out of four. I think that's it. Okay, so what about as bullet two, something like support Sausalito's existing plans vis-a-vis its legacy anchor out population. |
| 03:12:32.91 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:12:32.93 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:12:46.90 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | including, I can't, okay, sorry. |
| 03:12:47.67 | Councilmember Cox | Because I can't. |
| 03:12:55.57 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Yep, plans vis-a-vis Sausalito's existing legacy anchor out population. or existing plans vis-a-vis Sausalito's legacy anchor out population, comma, including through its safe harbor program and efforts and policy to not allow new Uh... newly arrived boats to stay longer than 72 hours. |
| 03:13:36.70 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 03:13:42.47 | Jill Hoffman | Well, okay, so I know you're having an issue with the word attrition. |
| 03:13:47.63 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. |
| 03:13:48.78 | Jill Hoffman | Well, and also attrition, apparently. |
| 03:13:50.57 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Well, the attrition is because our policy now is that for any new non-legacy anchor outs, |
| 03:13:51.17 | Jill Hoffman | Sure. |
| 03:13:58.58 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | or boat, not even an anchor out, but boat, that we enforce after 72 hours. |
| 03:14:04.03 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:14:04.05 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | you |
| 03:14:04.10 | Jill Hoffman | No, attrition means when a legacy anchor out leaves voluntarily. They don't get to come back. |
| 03:14:04.22 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | No. Legacy anchor out leaves. Okay, then why don't we say through the 72 hour thing and by not allowing I thought that we did allow legacy anchor outs to return after some period of time. No. No. No. Yes, we did. We agreed to that. |
| 03:14:28.40 | Jill Hoffman | to that. Thank you. |
| 03:14:28.99 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:14:29.03 | Jill Hoffman | No. |
| 03:14:29.25 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:14:29.38 | Jill Hoffman | we agreed that if a part of the criteria for the safe harbor program would not be |
| 03:14:29.48 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:14:37.51 | Councilmember Cox | Right. Someone who participates in the safe harbor can come back. |
| 03:14:38.59 | Jill Hoffman | Right. |
| 03:14:41.40 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | No, but Chad Carvey was here and they were going on a... He doesn't get to come back after that. He moved on to a liveaboard slope. So that's, okay, well then we have a different memory of that beginning and what we agreed. |
| 03:15:00.43 | Jeffrey Chase | So if an anchor outpost sailing, it cannot return to this day. |
| 03:15:03.77 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:15:03.79 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. |
| 03:15:03.81 | Councilmember Cox | That's not true. |
| 03:15:04.60 | Jeffrey Chase | Is that what you say? |
| 03:15:05.76 | Councilmember Cox | you |
| 03:15:06.02 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. |
| 03:15:07.18 | Mayor Burns | And then can you go to the slide with the Maureen bullets on it. |
| 03:15:16.04 | Councilmember Cox | So are we saying and through natural attrition? |
| 03:15:22.13 | Unknown | President Obama. Thank you. Thank you. Jeff. |
| 03:15:27.43 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | We could say, and policies regarding people who voluntarily leave. Sausalito. I mean, I would like to check the I really honestly I'm not trying to argue I just thought we reached a completely different conclusion so I think we just have a different recollection. |
| 03:15:47.97 | Jill Hoffman | Bye. |
| 03:15:48.08 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | voluntarily leave. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. |
| 03:15:50.06 | Councilmember Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:15:53.38 | Councilmember Cox | and then I'm just taking out the first two bullets and leaving in the second two. |
| 03:15:59.68 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 03:16:02.36 | Mayor Burns | That's on most feasible path forward. Right. There's four bullets. |
| 03:16:04.25 | Councilmember Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:16:04.27 | Unknown | Right. |
| 03:16:07.91 | Mayor Burns | It's our comments towards the mooring report that we'll just keep in any plan for moorings and RBI water should undergo sequo analysis. |
| 03:16:19.90 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | And I would just note that there's some similar language on page, on the slide four, maybe that could just be. |
| 03:16:31.96 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | edited along the same lines. Slide four, waterfront management plan priorities. |
| 03:16:40.99 | Councilmember Cox | That comes directly out of our... |
| 03:16:43.18 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | That comes directly |
| 03:16:44.03 | Councilmember Cox | out of our staff report. Which staff report? For January 2018. |
| 03:16:52.33 | Jill Hoffman | I think so. |
| 03:16:54.20 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Okay, I'm not as concerned about it. I mean, I'll... |
| 03:16:54.49 | Councilmember Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:16:54.50 | Jill Hoffman | I'm not as concerned. |
| 03:17:00.17 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | I'll let that go in the interest of time. Thank you. |
| 03:17:05.59 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 03:17:06.17 | Councilmember Cox | And thank you for, you know, I appreciate our efforts to reach collaboration from the diocese. |
| 03:17:06.25 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 03:17:06.28 | Councilmember Hoffman | I think. |
| 03:17:11.84 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Thank you for everybody's patience. I do wanna just thank our city manager and our police force. And I'm not, these comments are not coming from, I do thank you for all your efforts and I'm just frustrated by the, |
| 03:17:13.30 | Councilmember Cox | I think that's good. |
| 03:17:30.33 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | the timing and the approach, but I do appreciate your work. |
| 03:17:39.49 | Mayor Burns | Who braves the water of emotion? |
| 03:17:42.38 | Councilmember Cox | I move that we adopt the staff recommendations with respect to insurance for the Safe Harbor Program and that we approve the draft presentation slides for the BCDC meeting on September 12, 2019, as with the comments provided from the dais this evening. |
| 03:18:11.27 | Mayor Burns | Second. |
| 03:18:14.17 | Unknown | Jill's got the second. All in favor? Aye. That passes five zero. |
| 03:18:18.91 | Mayor Burns | I'm not sure. |
| 03:18:19.00 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:18:19.42 | Mayor Burns | Bye. |
| 03:18:19.50 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:18:23.42 | Mayor Burns | We have no public hearings tonight, so we are up to the city manager's report. We will hear from the city manager appointment to boards and commissions and committees and future agenda items. First, I'll take any public comment on these three items. Thank you all. Thanks for everybody who's sticking with us. Do any public comment on items 8B through D, seeing none. Adam, you have city manager's time, and we're right on schedule, so take your time. |
| 03:18:34.91 | Councilmember Cox | Thanks, everybody. |
| 03:18:52.72 | Adam Politzer | Do not. you I think the committee reports earlier mentioned several of my involvement as well. And I'll leave it at that. I'm happy to answer any questions of the council. |
| 03:19:11.04 | Mayor Burns | Any questions for Adam? Appointment to boards and commissions. Like I said, we have none. But, Serge, I just want to confirm that we are good with that question I asked you earlier the week that we are advertising for positions that are open. Yes, I have not. |
| 03:19:20.71 | City Clerk | Yes, I have not gotten a confirmation yet. I'm working on it. |
| 03:19:24.54 | Mayor Burns | Great. Thank you. future agenda items I have the item that councilmember Hoffman brought up regarding her leave and our consideration of fulfillment of that role as well as the landslide task force we will put that on agenda items this time so let's put that on there it's supposed to be on future agenda items and you will work with staff on what that will be we have the g-pack obviously Ray, you brought a few items there. We wanted the specific plan, obviously Ray you brought a few items there we want the specific plan but coming up for resolution style clarity if needed okay anything else |
| 03:20:02.39 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Can I just clarify on the future agenda items with the GPAC? So at one point in time, I understood that the September 24th meeting would be primarily about issues related to the Marin shift. But from council member with these comments earlier in the evening, it sounded like there were other decision points. Yes. there was a broader group. |
| 03:20:27.22 | Ray Withey | Well, let me clarify. There's got to be some broader discussions. I don't know whether we're going to be ready on the 24th to do it. So it may, in fact, be a Marin ship thing. But the point I was trying to get across is that increasingly this council needs to devote more and more time to giving direction to GPAC. |
| 03:20:48.44 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Okay, that's helpful. That's really what I'm trying to- I'm just thinking about timing, it seems like we have a couple of big items on the 24th. And I would also encourage GPAC and that. |
| 03:20:49.19 | Ray Withey | That's really what I'm trying to... Yeah. |
| 03:20:59.90 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | thinking about what comes to us to also frame some of it in terms of what limitations or boundaries we are putting on for eir purposes versus policy making I mean, They're sort of similar questions, but they're also a little bit different in my mind. Like, we're not for what goes into the EIRs. um, There's a broader range of policy possibilities than what we're actually deciding on. Thank you. We don't have to fully resolve. We're not making a policy decision. |
| 03:21:29.08 | Councilmember Cox | We're not making a policy decision. We don't have to fully resolve all policy decisions in order to move forward appropriately with the EIO. |
| 03:21:36.33 | Mayor Burns | Now, are you guys going to hear that template from the consultant on that broad EIR approach? Correct. Pretty soon? |
| 03:21:37.28 | Councilmember Cox | that. |
| 03:21:43.30 | Councilmember Cox | Yeah, it was in the timeline presented to us in August. |
| 03:21:47.51 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | But I think there's some confusion. I just want to make sure we're clear about. Some of these are actual policy guidance and some of them are parameters for EIR study. |
| 03:21:59.05 | Ray Withey | Right. I think there needs to be some clarity. I think discussion and clarity is what's needed more than anything else. Then consultants or others just having an assumption for how it's going to be, and we're supposed to guess what it is, to be honest, frankly. Right? Right. Um, |
| 03:22:18.45 | Mayor Burns | Who's our staff person on that now? |
| 03:22:22.83 | Adam Politzer | Bill Meeker is our interim community development director assigned to this. We've divided the role. And then Brian Mora is also representing the financial... |
| 03:22:35.01 | Unknown | on. |
| 03:22:38.40 | Councilmember Hoffman | you |
| 03:22:38.45 | Ray Withey | Okay. I think it would be helpful and I can help facilitate the and I've talked to Adam about this that at some appropriate point whether it's at the City Council at GPAC or at the City Council with GPAC here, whatever it is, that we invite the County Bay Wave Initiative and we invite the County Drawdown Marin Initiative to actually come and give a cut at the same time, come and give an integrated presentation about what that's all about, why most of the other jurisdictions in Marin are actually interfacing and adopting that, |
| 03:22:41.84 | Adam Politzer | Yeah, go ahead. |
| 03:23:29.75 | Ray Withey | And you know, And very importantly, so that we can just get educated about it. |
| 03:23:34.78 | Councilmember Cox | Well. And be prepared to address the concerns expressed by a number of residents that our projections are too conservative. |
| 03:23:42.71 | Ray Withey | Yeah. And I know some of our residents, we can't really discuss it now, but I know some of our residents are concerned they're too conservative, but quite frankly, we're not using any other estimates than is used by the whole of the county, every jurisdiction in the county. Yep. |
| 03:23:57.22 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. you I think our consultant needs to hear from Bay Wave as well to understand how big it is. |
| 03:24:04.83 | Ray Withey | So I think both BayWave and Drawdown Marin have some similarities. They're very different. And one of the things that I think we need to consider is can we use some of that thinking and incorporate it into the general plan? I know our sustainability commission already has. |
| 03:24:22.60 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 03:24:23.57 | Ray Withey | you know, and that's really important. |
| 03:24:24.02 | Councilmember Hoffman | Mm-hmm. |
| 03:24:24.24 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | that. |
| 03:24:25.91 | Ray Withey | So I think it would be stimulating to have that conversation. |
| 03:24:30.28 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Great. And then I don't know if this is a future city council item or maybe MCC MC, but the presentation that you made about marine clean energy to be our friends from Vina del Mar I would be very interested in having either at the council or I think it would be great |
| 03:24:53.49 | Councilmember Cox | I think it would be great at MCCMC. Too few council members are really aware |
| 03:24:54.46 | Mayor Burns | Thank you. |
| 03:24:56.66 | Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles | Yeah. |
| 03:24:58.94 | Mayor Burns | They gave a good presentation, was that two years ago? |
| 03:25:02.06 | Ray Withey | Yeah, they gave a presentation two years ago. There's been very little interest from most of the mayors to, you know, do that. They, you know, but because in the end, MCCMC can't force anybody to do anything, you know. Unfortunately, I wish it could because it can't. You can't. And, you know, for instance, we invited Bay Wave to MCCMC for five minutes. We invited Drawdown Marin. Marin Clean Energy has been there before. Marin Clean Energy will come to any council meeting. So if you want MCE to come and give an overview, they'll be quite happy. They're more than happy to come. Right. To give a big, broad overview and to understand is a good 30 to 45 minute presentation. So it might not be the optimal thing. It's what's going to happen at city council meetings. |
| 03:25:49.75 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 03:25:49.97 | Lisa Chilino | Thank you. |
| 03:25:52.58 | Ray Withey | Dawn or Vecan, that's the COO, is going to come in and give you the latest, what's the latest going on, update, assuming we know everything. I actually think we need a forum where people just get reacquainted, you know, with the whole thing. |
| 03:26:05.20 | Councilmember Hoffman | Mm. |
| 03:26:08.26 | Ray Withey | I was surprised to learn that in Marin County, when they first enrolled, they had 25% opt-out. It's still that. When they last rolled it out in Contra Costa County, the opt-out rate was 7%. major difference. Well, why? Because PG&E spent $50 million in marine fighting it. |
| 03:26:30.04 | Mayor Burns | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:26:33.99 | Mayor Burns | Do you have an item? Anybody else have an item for the future agenda? All right, then it's up to adjournment, which tonight I am going to adjourn this meeting in honor of Una Kavanaugh, who recently passed away. Una was the CEO of our chamber as well as a resident and, more importantly, a good friend to so many people here in town. there is going to be a memorial for una coming up and I think Cheryl pop has some information on that that will be public soon so tonight we close in honor of una |
| 03:26:49.21 | Lisa Chilino | Pastor. |
Lisa Chilino — Neutral: Provided update on MLK Park tree replanting project: site plan finalized with 100+ trees/shrubs of 11 species, consulting with stakeholders, planning commission review next week, fundraising 44% complete ($6,500 of $15,000), invited donations and tree dedications. ▶ 📄
Jeffrey Chase — Neutral: Announced resolution of Councilmember Hoffman's FPPC filing issue due to computer glitch; discussed Schoonmaker's Marina's conditional use permit requirement for public cleats for offshore mariners, noted lack of enforcement, petitions to city were unsuccessful, leading to lawsuit. ▶ 📄