City Council Meeting - November 19, 2019

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Meeting Summary

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The meeting begins with informal greetings among participants, including Alice Merrill and an unknown speaker, expressing satisfaction with attendance. The Mayor or Councilmember leading the meeting notes the full attendance and calls the meeting to order, requesting a roll call by Serge 📄.
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CALL TO ORDER IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, 420 LITHO STREET - 6:00 PM 📄
The meeting was called to order at 6:00 PM. Roll call was taken with Councilmember Cox, Councilmember Riley, Councilmember Withey, and Mayor Burns present. Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles was noted as en route and expected during closed session. 📄 The Mayor announced that closed session items D1 through D3 would be heard, detailing them as conferences with legal counsel regarding anticipated and existing litigation, including cases Gordon vs. Sausalito and Golub vs. Sausalito. 📄 Public comment on closed session was called with none received. The council then adjourned to closed session, with a return time set for 7:00 PM.
II
OPEN SESSION IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, 420 LITHO STREET - 7:00 PM 📄
The meeting opened at 7:00 PM on Tuesday, November 19th. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Alice Merrill 📄. The Mayor announced that the council had just concluded a closed session for items D1 through D3 with no announcements. The agenda was approved unanimously (5-0) 📄. The Mayor noted potential power shut-offs in the region but minimal impact expected in Marin 📄.
Motion
Motion to approve the agenda, passed 5-0 📄.
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SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS / MAYOR’S ANNOUNCEMENTS 📄
The Mayor provides announcements regarding weather and safety, noting that warm winds and potential power shut-offs are still in the news despite the holiday season. Residents are reminded to stay informed by checking online sources, signing up for Nixle alerts, and remaining vigilant until conditions are certain, as the city is currently off the shut-off list 📄. The Mayor then transitions to public comment for items not on the agenda, mentioning two speakers for non-agenda items and one for agenda items, starting with Dennis Webb 📄.
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COMMUNICATIONS 📄
Public comment period with four speakers. Dennis Webb, a general contractor, discussed hillside water management issues, citing multiple active slides and advocating for mandatory dissipator pits or trenches to manage roof runoff on slopes 📄. A councilmember inquired about other communities with similar regulations and suggested it as a condition for building permits 📄. The mayor suggested considering it as a future agenda item related to the mudslide task force 📄. David Sudo reported a rat infestation in old waterfront trash cans, attracting skunks and a coyote, and requested vermin-proof replacements like those at Takchi Park 📄. Sandra Bushmaker, a Mudslide Task Force member, asked when the task force item would appear on a city council agenda, noting the 60-day deadline was approaching; the mayor responded that staff was reviewing it 📄. Johnny Scopazzi announced the Sausalito Community Boating Center received a grant to meet fire safety requirements and will open April 1st, with construction in early 2024 📄. He also promoted a bocce court oyster shell laying party on Saturday with lunch provided.
Public Comment 4 2 In Favor 2 Neutral
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ACTION MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING 📄
The Mayor or Councilmember leading the meeting asked for comments on the minutes 📄. A Councilmember echoed the request, noting there were none 📄. The discussion then briefly shifted to council member committee reports 📄.
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COUNCILMEMBER COMMITTEE REPORTS 📄
Councilmember Susan reported on the Sustainability Commission meeting, which included a presentation on REACH building codes promoting electrification in new construction 📄. Concerns were raised about unclear integration of commission recommendations into the General Plan, specifically regarding the low emission action plan brief 📄. Outreach for a plastic ban ordinance using grant funds for consultant assistance on compostable materials was announced 📄. Mayor reported on the Bike and Ped Committee, highlighting a $440,000 Safe Routes to School grant for Nevada Street corridor improvements and a potential crosswalk at Coloma Street 📄. The committee is developing a project document with funding sources and categories 📄. Parking issues with utility and delivery trucks in red zones, especially at Princess and Bridgeway during morning commute, were discussed, with suggestions for enforcement and safer loading zones 📄.
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CONSENT CALENDAR 📄
The Mayor opened public comment on the consent calendar items (5A through E) but no public comment cards were submitted. After closing public comment, a councilmember moved approval of the consent calendar. The Mayor called for a vote, and it passed unanimously with a 5-0 vote 📄.
Motion
Motion to approve the consent calendar items 5A through E, passed 5-0 📄.
6.A
Drawdown Marin- Marin County Sustainability Programs (Alex Porteshawver, Senior Sustainability Coordinator) 📄
Alex Porteshawver, Senior Sustainability Coordinator for Marin County, presented on county-wide greenhouse gas emissions, existing sustainability initiatives, and the Drawdown Marin program. Key points included: Marin County's emissions have decreased 25% from 2005 to 2017, with transportation being the largest contributor 📄. Sausalito has reduced emissions 16% below 2005 levels, meeting its 2020 goal 📄. Drawdown Marin is a community-driven initiative with aggressive goals: 60% reduction below 2005 by 2030 and drawdown below zero by 2045 📄. The program uses a collective impact framework with six working groups focusing on areas like renewable energy, transportation, and carbon sequestration 📄. Two solutions have received preliminary endorsement: Drive Clean Marin and the Marin Carbon Farming Initiative 📄. Equity is a core component, with a grant-funded project to engage communities of color 📄. Councilmembers discussed integrating Drawdown goals into Sausalito's General Plan update, emphasizing the need for aggressive policies and practical implementation like EV charging stations and bike infrastructure 📄. Councilmember Withee highlighted the importance of city representation in Drawdown's governance and better communication of existing programs 📄. The Mayor stressed the urgency of acting on climate change now and leveraging local innovation 📄.
Public Comment 3 2 In Favor 1 Neutral
6.B
2019 Circulation Management End of Season Report, and Consideration of Second Amendment to Sausalito Bicycle Congestion Management Agreement for 2020 Season 📄
Lieutenant Stacie Gregory presented the 2019 end-of-season report for the downtown bicycle congestion/circulation management program, highlighting successes and operational improvements. 📄 The season ran from March 23 to October 13, with reduced bike counts compared to previous years, attributed partly to fewer rental bikes. 📄 Sausalito Bike Return generated over $217,000 in revenue, with the city netting approximately $1,300 after a $23,000 initial payment for ambassador services. 📄 Key successes included cashless payments via Square terminals, relocation of Station One to Richardson and Bridgeway to reduce congestion, improved taxi regulations with a vest pilot program, and efficient ferry queuing managed by Sausalito Bike Return. 📄 Challenges included potential issues with Jump bike-share due to system changes, requiring possible ordinance updates. 📄 Councilmembers praised the program's evolution from a major problem to a well-oiled machine, emphasizing collaboration among partners, reduced emissions, and community benefits. 📄 Vice Mayor Knowles noted discussions with TAM to add bike counters for better data on commuter patterns. 📄
Motion
Motion to receive and file the 2019 Circulation Management End of Season Report and adopt a resolution approving the second amendment to the bicycle congestion management agreement with Sausalito Bike Return. 📄 Passed 5-0. 📄
Public Comment 5 5 In Favor
6.C
Receive and File the BCDC and Waterfront Management Plan Update (Joan Cox, Councilmember; John Rohrbacher, Chief of Police) 📄
Chief John Rohrbacher and Councilmember Joan Cox provided an update on Sausalito's waterfront management efforts ahead of a BCDC meeting. The Chief reported continued success in reducing anchored vessels in Sausalito waters, with no new boats and only a few remaining, each with a specific plan (legacy anchor-outs, Safe Harbor candidates, or removal). He highlighted a recent windstorm where 20 boats from Richardson Bay broke loose and impacted Sausalito, underscoring the need for broader regional enforcement 📄. Councilmember Cox outlined proposed talking points for BCDC, including Sausalito's Safe Harbor Program (first anchor-out housed, four more vetted) and a request to increase liveaboard slip allocation from 10% to 15% to aid the program 📄. She also introduced the idea of Sausalito taking on a greater enforcement role in Richardson Bay through an MOU with RBRA, using RBRA's grant funds to offset costs, citing Sausalito's proven track record and RBRA's lack of progress 📄. Council discussion revealed support for exploring a greater role, with some members advocating for a complete takeover rather than piecemeal collaboration 📄. Concerns were raised about the tone of slides criticizing RBRA's lack of collaboration; councilmembers suggested reframing the presentation positively around Sausalito's vision and successes while verbally noting current collaboration challenges 📄. The Chief noted that operational mutual aid during emergencies like the windstorm functions well 📄.
Public Comment 1 1 Neutral
7.A
2nd Reading of an Ordinance Updating Building Code (Thomas Ahrens, Contract Building Official) 📄
Thomas Ahrens presented the second reading and public hearing for the tri-annual adoption of updated building codes, based on the 2018 International Codes with California amendments effective Jan 1, 2020. 📄 He explained local amendments are allowed based on topographic, geological, or climatic conditions, citing Sausalito's steep hills, narrow streets, earthquake risks, and wildfire hazards. 📄 New amendments include requiring posted permits for neighbor awareness and enforcement, mutual aid for inspectors, increased penalties for unpermitted work, council as appeals board, fire department recommendations, restrictions on wooden retaining walls, clarified pool safety, permits for freestanding masonry walls over 3 feet, and requiring Class A ignition-resistant roof coverings citywide to eliminate wood roofs. 📄 Councilmember Withee sought clarification on fence height exemptions, confirming fences under 6 feet are exempt unless masonry. 📄 Councilmember (unidentified) asked about REACH codes for sustainability; Ahrens noted they were not included as he carried forward previous amendments but is open to future direction, citing concerns about aggressive requirements and availability of materials. 📄 Councilmembers discussed the need to consider REACH codes for incentives or requirements, especially for new construction, to meet greenhouse gas reduction goals, with suggestions for expediting permits or fee waivers. 📄 Withee shared that other councils found REACH codes too aggressive previously, suggesting collaboration with the county. 📄 Councilmember Cox agreed to adopt now but urged planning for more progressive codes in the next three years. 📄 Another councilmember noted amendments can be made before three years, but cautioned about cost impacts on elderly residents for renovations. 📄 Ahrens added that current energy codes already require upgrades in remodeled areas. 📄
Motion
Motion to adopt the ordinance updating building codes with specified amendments and authorize publication of a summary only, seconded, passed 5-0. 📄
6.D
Review and Approval of the 2020 City Council Meeting Schedule (Serge Avila, Acting City Clerk) 📄
The council discussed the 2020 meeting schedule, with a councilmember noting conflicts on first Tuesdays from April onward due to work commitments in San Francisco, causing potential lateness to closed sessions or interviews 📄. The councilmember requested revisions and suggested bringing the item back for consideration at the next meeting 📄. The Vice Mayor and others acknowledged the complexity of scheduling to avoid back-to-back meetings and conflicts like holidays, emphasizing the domino effect of changes 📄. Adjustments were discussed for April due to spring break 📄, and there was mention of checking availability for Jill Hoffman, expected to return in July 2020 📄. Confusion arose over whether the calendar in the staff report reflected previous feedback, with only Councilmember Riley having submitted conflicts earlier 📄. The council agreed to have the Vice Mayor work with Serge Avila on adjustments and review a revised draft at the next meeting, with no approval at this time.
8B
City Manager Information for Council - 9:45 PM 📄
Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles indicates he has no report but is available for questions 📄. The mayor asks if there are any questions, and seeing none, transitions to appointments to boards, commissions, and committees, inquiring about the total number of applications received since an article ran, without specifying details 📄.
8C
Appointments to Boards, Commissions and Committees 📄
Staff reported that applications for various boards and commissions were posted on November 8th with a deadline of November 22nd, and about 12 applications have been received so far 📄. Councilmember Withee raised concern about a new MCCMC committee focused on sea level rise and climate change that was formed months ago but to which San Anselmo has not yet appointed a liaison, while other cities have 📄. The committee's purpose includes liaising with Drawdown and BayWave, and it has not yet met or defined its scope. Councilmember Withee suggested the appointment could wait until December or January, and volunteered to serve as liaison since they are not on the JPA 📄. The mayor indicated they would hold off for now 📄.
8D
Future Agenda Items 📄
The council discussed potential future agenda items. Councilmember mentioned water management as an item brought up by Dennis 📄. Another councilmember noted correspondence from Neil Whitelaw regarding Sausalito and other Marin County cities taking over the electric distribution system from PG&E 📄. The Mayor indicated the Agenda Committee would consider the PG&E item and asked for other items, with none being offered 📄.
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ADJOURNMENT - 10:05 PM 📄
The councilmembers engaged in informal conversation about the meeting's duration and scheduling. Councilmember Withee noted the significant length, comparing it to a previous meeting that ended at 1:00 AM 📄. Another councilmember mentioned the personal impact, stating it takes them the rest of the week to recover due to having senior staff responsibilities 📄. The Mayor or leading councilmember made a lighthearted comment about being close to adjournment and urged boldness in messaging 📄.

Meeting Transcript

Time Speaker Text
00:00:04.87 Alice Merrill How are you?
00:00:06.19 Unknown All right.

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00:00:12.25 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) I like it when all three of us are one or the other.

Thank you.

Next week, I think, is a tie.

All right.

I am going to call this meeting to order and ask that Serge take a roll call.
00:00:26.74 Unknown Councilmember Cox? Here. Councilmember Riley? Here. Councilmember Withey?
00:00:31.55 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Here.

Mayor Burns. Here, and we have been noticed by Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles that she is in route and should be here during our closed session. Which brings me to announcing that we will be hearing item D1 through D3 in closed session. Are there any public comments on closed session? Seeing none, we'll adjourn to conference with legal, no, no, I'm sorry.

I'm going to read them. D1, conference with legal counsel, anticipated litigation, initiation of litigation pursuant to California code section 54956.9 D4. One potential case. Conference with legal counsel, existing litigation pursuant to paragraph of subdivision of section 54956.9. One potential case, that is Gordon versus Sausalito. Conference with legal counsel, existing litigation, Initiation pursuant to California Government Code Section 54956.9A, name of case is Golub versus Sausalito. legal counsel existing litigation, initiation pursuant to California government code section 54956.9A. Name of case is Golub versus Sausalito. We'll be back at seven o'clock.

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00:05:33.53 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) All right, good evening, everyone. It is Tuesday, November 19th at 7 o'clock.

And I am going to look at the agenda and see where we are here.

Alice Merrill, would you do us the honor of starting off with the Pledge of Allegiance?
00:05:58.64 Alice Merrill of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
00:05:59.13 Councilmember Withee the Legion.
00:06:00.02 Unknown To the flag.

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00:06:13.17 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Yeah, I should have said, and we will follow you.
00:06:19.03 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) We just came out of a closed session and we had three closed session items that are listed on your agenda, D1 through D3. We have no announcements from that closed session.

I'm looking for an approval of this agenda.
00:06:36.56 Councilmember Second.
00:06:37.30 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) All in favor? Aye. 5-0 on agenda. Special presentations, we have none. The only thing I can say really quickly as a mayor's announcement is for the third meeting out of the last four, there's potential for power shut offs in our region. But as we've been hearing, less impact here, if no impact at all in Marin.
00:06:38.16 Councilmember Bye.
00:06:59.02 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Even though we're starting to prepare our turkeys and our stuffing, this appears to still be in the news that Warm winds and power shut offs are possible. So just good information to have, reminding all residents to always be checking your sources online. Make sure you're signed up for Nixle, checking the websites. Do your diligence all the way up until we have three inches of rain or something because we just don't know how these things are going to turn out. So right now we're off the list and.

Seems like we report on that a lot on Tuesday nights.

Moving forward now, we're going to open it up to public comment.

Public communications is the time where the city council can hear from residents regarding matters that are not on the agenda. Except in very limited circumstances.

In some situations, the state law precludes the council from taking any action or engaging in any discussions concerning items that are not on the agenda. However, we may refer these to our agenda setting or to staff. I have.

Two.

right now for items not on the agenda and one for the agenda. So first up, Dennis Webb. Dennis, you have three minutes.
00:08:13.29 Dennis Webb Hi everybody, my name is Dennis Webb. I'm a resident, a general contractor here in Sausalito.

I want to talk about water management. What does water management mean?

Okay, so I work on a lot of hillsides in Sausalito. We do a lot of hillside stabilization. We put soldier piles in our hills here and we stop basically houses from sliding down hills.

Susan Gordon took a ride of her lifetime riding down the street. I was at her house two months before that and basically kind of told her that she needs a geotech some immediate assistance just with her existing structure, never mind the fact that a mountain's gonna fall on top of hers.

Anyway, That's the kind of stuff we do, and what's happening right now is I'm working on another project up on Toyon Street, and Sausalito is loose.

The hills are moving and they've been moving since the turn of the century. Since the Hearst family bought 60 Atwood, that whole hill along there sliding, slid again in the 60s, the 80s.

We're loose. And a lot of the why this happens is because people's downspouts are coming from their roofs and people aren't managing their own water. How do you manage your own water when you don't have a street to dump it on? Well, basically, you dump it on your neighbor's property, the downhill person. And then they dump the water on the other downhill person. And basically, the person at the bottom of the hill is...

gets the shaft or the people in between, or actually yourself, because most people are dumping their own roof water directly into their foundations, creating a vulnerable situation.

So, anyway.

We almost need to make it a law or something, almost like fire prevention. So in other words, if people have weeds all around their property, dead branches, the fire department comes around and cites them. You have a dangerous future hazard.

We need to do something.

with.

something yearly or what have you where we go around either some type of professional group Damn.

looked at people's properties for their downspouts because houses are going to continue sliding. They're sliding right now. I have eight of them that we're working on as we speak.

I'd like to put something into, I don't know, our code or something that it's, you know, it's mandatory to have dissipator pits when you're on a downhill slope. Thank you.
00:10:34.63 Councilmember Can I ask a question?
00:10:35.38 Dennis Webb THE END OF THE END OF THE
00:10:35.58 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) We have a question. Dennis?
00:10:36.56 Councilmember Thank you.

Hey, Dennis, do you know of any other communities that have anything similar that we could borrow from, if we were so inclined?
00:10:44.57 Dennis Webb No, but we have a good engineering plan that we've been using on the last four jobs. The civil engineers use on downslope properties in basically the Bay Area, and they're called dissipator trenches and dissipator pits, and they're these big.

basically six foot deep trenches by about two foot wide. There's a series of them running down the hill. And what it does is it slows down the water and it makes it perk and it stops the water from basically force feeding the downhill neighbor's property.

pretty easy to do, and that seems like it's the solution.
00:11:19.50 Councilmember Thank you.

So that could be a condition of building permits or approval.
00:11:25.36 Dennis Webb Yeah.
00:11:25.95 Councilmember Okay. All right. Thank you.
00:11:27.23 Dennis Webb Thank you.
00:11:28.26 Councilmember Mr. Mayor, can we put this as a for consideration as a possible future agenda item.
00:11:34.20 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.

And its relationship to our mudslide task force.
00:11:40.16 Unknown Okay.
00:11:40.38 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
00:11:40.97 Unknown .
00:11:41.12 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.

David Sudo.
00:11:42.38 David Sudo Thank you.
00:11:43.26 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) And then.
00:11:43.79 David Sudo Thank you.
00:11:43.85 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.

you
00:11:44.61 David Sudo SAME.
00:11:44.85 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Push me.
00:11:45.42 David Sudo Thank you.

Good evening, Council. I'm just going to put my hat on as a complaining resident. I walk my dog almost every night along Bridgeway, the waterfront, and lately there's just been a huge infestation of all the trash cans or almost all the trash cans along the waterfront there. They all have holes in them, and they're filled with rats every night. You can hear them running around. You know, my dog is basically on rat patrol the whole time she's on a walk. And then the skunks are looking for the rats in the trash, and then last night I saw a coyote down there looking for all of the above. So, you know, we replaced the trash cans by Takchi Park and made them pretty vermin-proof, and we need to do the same with the other ones that look like they're 30 or 40 years old. Thank you. David, did you see a coyote down on the water? Last night when I was walking, there was a coyote who went down Richardson and then took a left and went down Bridgeway. Thank you.
00:12:39.98 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Last night went out as well.
00:12:48.11 David Sudo Yeah.

Thank you.
00:12:51.12 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Sandra.
00:12:55.61 Sandra Bushmaker Sandra Bushmaker, resident and member of the Mudslide Task Force. Just reminding the council that the 60 days is soon to be up. And could you please advise when we would be hearing this item on the agenda?

So,
00:13:10.03 Councilmember Can I just comment, we've heard this at the Finance Committee.
00:13:12.65 Sandra Bushmaker Thank you.
00:13:12.90 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Yeah.
00:13:13.00 Councilmember Yeah.
00:13:13.07 Sandra Bushmaker Thank you.
00:13:13.21 Councilmember That's her name.
00:13:13.27 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
00:13:13.29 Sandra Bushmaker Thank you.
00:13:13.31 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) That's her it.
00:13:13.81 Sandra Bushmaker Thank you.
00:13:13.97 Councilmember Thank you.
00:13:14.08 Sandra Bushmaker Thank you.
00:13:14.10 Councilmember About a week and a half ago.
00:13:16.14 Sandra Bushmaker No, but on the city council agenda.
00:13:16.19 Councilmember Thank you.
00:13:16.21 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) And, but.

what will We'll talk about it in future city council agendas, but right now our staff is looking at it.
00:13:24.45 Sandra Bushmaker Okay, can you give us any idea?
00:13:26.07 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Not right now.

Okay, thank you.
00:13:28.73 Sandra Bushmaker Well, it's on that tape, I'm afraid.
00:13:30.03 Councilmember Finance Committee.
00:13:31.58 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Yeah, it's on the tape.

You can watch the finance committee, yeah.

Johnny Scarpazi.

Any others?
00:13:43.85 Johnny Scopazzi Yep, Johnny Scopazzi, I'm here to represent Sausalito Community Boating Center at Cascule Marina. And here to announce the fact that we did get a grant. We were awarded a grant, and that will get us open.

And I think the happiest person is the fire chief because we have enough money to meet the fire requirement. So we'll be opening up 1st of April for sure. Ramps ordered. The landing docks are already ordered and on its way. We'll be building in late January and February and installing in March.

The outer fingers will probably not be used right now, but all the inner fingers and inner docs and stuff will be opening up for pretty much everything in early April. So April 1st, right? There you go.

That's great news.
00:14:38.75 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
00:14:38.76 Unknown That's great news.
00:14:40.26 Johnny Scopazzi Thank you.

And then, gosh, I've got two whole more minutes. The other thing I'm working on is the bocce courts. So we are having a bocce court oyster shell party this Saturday. We're going to be hopefully laying about 12 tons of oyster shells. So if anybody wants to come down, wheelbarrows, whatever, come down. Teaming up with the Saucer Cruising Club, we're going to be providing lunch at 1230. So everybody's welcome to come down for lunch. Supplied by Saucedo Community Voting Center. And if anybody does want lunch, please RSVP with me, please.

415-720-5881. I know that's a dangerous thing to do at city council, to give out your phone number. But if I've got to have enough food for people, or just come down for lunch, call me. Come down for lunch, I'll feed you lunch. Thank you.
00:15:31.58 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you and great, great news. We just added your name and phone number to a couple committees, but great.

Great news with that, culminating with our park. I mean, that's just going to be such a fabulous place for our community this coming summer. So good job, Johnny, and group that worked on that. Any other public comment on items not on the agenda? I will close public comment and thank you all and bring it up here for action minutes of previous meeting.
00:15:45.17 Unknown community.
00:15:58.14 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Do we have any comments?
00:15:58.41 Councilmember Any comments? There are none?
00:16:02.82 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you. Council member committee reports. We've had one week, but we did offset a few of them last week, so does anybody have anything?
00:16:10.24 Councilmember Thank you.

Thank you.
00:16:10.53 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
00:16:10.55 Councilmember I do.
00:16:11.44 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you, Susan.
00:16:12.47 Councilmember I attended the Sustainability Commission last Thursday night, which, as usual, was a really active meeting. We had a presentation from the county on something called REACH building codes, which are building codes that require certain levels of new construction to have electrification and other meaning no gas and other sustainable measures that are reduce help reduce our greenhouse gas emissions. So the sustainability commission heard that did not at that meeting at least decide to.

move forward with a recommendation. But it was an interesting presentation. They also have kind of a, a halfway measure which allows gas for fire gas fireplaces and stoves. But not for hot water heaters and other things recognizing that a lot of people aesthetically like those.

So it was an interesting discussion. We had a very long discussion about the general plan the fact that it was difficult to understand how and why certain recommendations from the Sustainability Commission were not being adopted or carried forward into general plan objectives and policies. And I think we'll have a chance to talk a little bit more about this during our drawdown.

discussion, but there's a lot of, I think it's very unclear looking at, listening to the discussions and looking at the documents about what of the different committee and boards and commissions recommendations are being accepted, which are being maybe deferred to strategies.

and how that will all play out. So I think some communication back to the various boards and commissions that spent quite a bit of time formulating their recommendations might be helpful. So the Sustainability Commission wrote a really excellent low emission action plan brief.

And I think that's a good thing.

It would be good to hear how that will be integrated into the general plan.

The other exciting news is that we're going to start outreach on our plastic ban ordinance.

Lauren, who's here tonight, is actually going to use some of our grant money to get a consultant to help us outreach to local businesses about using cutlery and containers that are actually compostable in our...

Sausalito's facility.

Because a lot of things say that they're compostable, but they're only compostable in a highly urban area where they have the very best technology. And they wouldn't be compostable here. So we really need to make sure that people understand what they can and can't use. So that was what we discussed.
00:19:06.47 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you. Joan?

THE CITY IS A LITTLE BIT.

Ray, nothing. Okay. I had last evening a bike and ped meeting here in this room. Exciting things happening there. As usual, the biggest announcement was that you may have heard that the city, through Safe Routes to School, is receiving grant money to work on two items that we have discussed up here. The Nevada Street corridor from Bridgeway up to Willow Creek area for striping and potential crosswalk at Coloma Street.
00:19:41.28 Councilmember Yeah, I made that announcement at 12.45 a.m. last week.
00:19:44.34 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Yeah, I fell asleep at 12.15.

Um...

So, uh.
00:19:50.16 Councilmember Yeah, $440,000. Yeah.
00:19:52.40 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Yeah, but where we took it.

Since then, on Monday, was having a report from our public works director and city engineer, Kevin McCowan, kind of time frames and what we're looking at in the realization of the scope of the crosswalk. Having a little bit more to it than just painting some white lines on the street.

But the Nevada street could move a little quicker.

And again, I'm going to mention that the committee is working on a document that's accessible through their agenda that has blue links to each one of their projects. They're going to expand that document a little bit to maybe have some funding sources, categories of where it fits in our, the staff's ability to get to those or their criteria. So it's a continual document that the community's welcome to look at through our agenda under the Bikes and Ped.

And then the final thing is the committee's concern on parking in red zones by utility trucks and delivery trucks.

That is something I think that we need to continue to discuss, but at this point, reminding people to be cautious and park in areas that are designated and not in the red zone.

you know, we've, through the police have advised the committee to call the police when somebody's illegally parked. But ultimately we're going to have to work on something to help change behaviors, change different options, and create a much bigger program for where these delivery trucks can park or how people need to get around them in the meantime.

Do you have something on that?
00:21:32.76 Councilmember No, I just have mentioned a couple times it's a huge problem, especially at Princess and Bridgeway in the morning commute hours, kids.

Kids on their bikes coming towards the school, commuters on their bikes going into work, people walking dogs and a lot of cars. And then the delivery trucks parked right in the red zone, often blocking the traffic light so that you can't see the light, blocking other things. So I've commented on that. I think we really need some enforcement in that area in the morning and Either having some agreement with businesses to get their deliveries at a different time.

or finding actually safe loading zones.
00:22:15.86 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.

Thank you.

Well, thank you.

I have no other comments and I will close committee reports.

before she even goes on much longer. You can now open up consent calendar. I have one, two, three, four, five items. Is there any recusals on the five we have listed here?
00:22:24.07 Unknown So much.
00:22:34.06 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Seeing none, I'm going to open up to public comment. I have no cards on public comment on consent items. Any public comment on items on the consent calendar?

Going once, twice, three times closing public comment.

I'll take a motion on these items, 5A through E.
00:22:50.59 Councilmember I'll move approval of the consent calendar.

Thank you.
00:22:53.47 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) All in favor? Aye. Aye. That's five zero on consent. That brings us to.

Our first business item of the day, Alec.
00:23:09.27 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Alex, put the chauffeur...
00:23:11.14 Alex Portashavar Thank you.

So close.
00:23:12.20 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
00:23:12.23 Alex Portashavar Thank you.
00:23:12.30 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
00:23:12.35 Unknown you
00:23:12.42 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Alex P is a senior sustainable coordinator for Marin County and she's here to talk about Draw Down Marin.
00:23:18.87 Alex Portashavar Great.

Thank you, Mayor Burns and council members for inviting me here tonight. I'm looking forward to chatting with you about several different topics. I have a lot of information to cover and about 45 minutes. So I will get through as much as I can.

I was instructed that this should be an open conversation, which sounds great to me. So if you have questions or comments as I go along, feel free to interrupt. And if at the end you also have questions, I'm happy to address them as we have time.

So my name is Alex Portashavar. I am on the Marin County Sustainability Team.

I work at the Civic Center.

I've been employed by the county for a little over a year And I was hired to manage Strahd Amarin, which we'll talk about in several slides.
00:24:06.81 Alex Portashavar So the purpose of today.

you What I hope you'll get out of it as the members of the public, I hope the same for them So current and projected county-wide greenhouse gas emissions. So we'll spend a few slides kind of setting the stage and giving some background and foundation.

And then I will talk about existing initiatives and programs that reduce those emissions and address climate change. So one of them is Dr. Amarin, but there are several others.

And then I will talk about how Sausalito, the city, and all of its citizens can get involved in those efforts.
00:24:43.56 Alex Portashavar Okay, so this slide shows countywide greenhouse gas emissions.

not just unincorporated, but all of Marin.

Our emissions total just about 1.45 million metric tons of carbon dioxide equivalent.

So when you see MTCO2E, that's what that means.

So it's not just carbon, but lots of other greenhouse gas emissions like methane.

So similar to Sausalito and many California communities, transportation makes up the bulk of the emissions pie.

followed by the built environment.

which is residential energy and non-residential energy. And then you'll see some other slivers of the pie as well.
00:25:30.20 Alex Portashavar So every jurisdiction in Marin County, and soon the county itself, will use the same baseline, 2005, to measure its progress against.

So this slide shows that progress between 2005 and 2017 Countywide emissions have decreased 25% in a few slides. I'll show the decreases for the individual jurisdiction in the county
00:25:56.18 Alex Portashavar In addition to measuring past and current emissions, we also project emissions forward.

So what will emissions look like in 2030, in 2040, and even out to 2050?

So business as usual is the orange line, and it assumes a 4% increase in emissions from 2017 levels. That's the last year for which we have data, and we can conduct a greenhouse gas emissions inventory The purple line represents adopted state targets. So you'll see the 2030 state target, 40% below 1990 levels, and the 2050 state target, 80% below 1990 levels.

the orange dotted line.

represents the drawdown maroon targets. Again, I'll talk about those in a little bit, you'll see that they are more aggressive than what the state has adopted. So 60% below 2005 levels by 2030.

and drawdown below zero.

by 2045.

So it's obvious we have a lot of things to do. Our work cut out for us. Obviously, there's a gap between that business as usual and what our targets are.
00:27:08.76 Alex Portashavar So this slide depicts that gap analysis.

We want to understand What is our business as usual? What are the state actions that will lead to reductions? And then what more do we have to do at a local level?

So we do know that there are existing state policies That will lead to reductions.

So for example, the Renewable Portfolio Standard, which requires that Utilities like MCE, like Pacific Gas and Electric, that they procure a certain percentage of their power from renewable resources as defined by the state.

We also have light and heavy duty fleet regulations. So those account for some of the reductions. We have Title 24, the building code, Vice Mayor of Cleveland Knowles mentioned that before.

So every three years we adopt a new building code and that leads to certain reductions at a local level.

And then we also have the lighting efficiency app.

So those are examples of state actions And that's what makes up that decrease between the orange line and the green line.

So after we take into account those state actions, The green line represents our starting point.

And the purple star is the state gap, so that's what we would need to reduce additionally to meet those state targets. And the orange star is the drawdown gap.
00:28:28.86 Alex Portashavar I did also want to mention that the emissions I just described are based on what happens within the geographic boundaries of Marin County.

There's actually another methodology that measures greenhouse gas emissions based on what we consume.

the things we buy, our air travel, the food we eat and the services we purchase.

These actions have impacts not just here, but outside of our county.

and outside of our geographic boundaries.

And in Marin, we actually outsource a lot of our emissions. So we don't have a power generation plant here.

Even some of the facilities that accept our waste are outside of the county.

And it's especially important for a county that is wealthy and affluent to think about not just our impact locally, but our impact in the region and even in the state.

So when you look at consumption based emissions versus geographic boundary based emissions, our consumption-based emissions tripled.

And we are just behind San Mateo and Santa Clara County, which is a big deal. We're a lot smaller than those counties.

So.

It's something for us to consider.

Right now, the standard practice is to do geographic based inventories, but we've started to see climate action plan updates include this information and identify measures that get at reducing some of these consumption based emissions.
00:29:51.90 Alex Portashavar Okay, this is the slide I mentioned that shows the decrease in greenhouse gas emissions for all of the jurisdictions within the county.

So the slide is slightly outdated because you'll see that the data is based on 2016 emissions. So the county just completed a 2017 inventory update.

I believe that Sausalito has not completed its latest greenhouse gas inventory update, but it will as part of the Marin Climate and Energy Partnership.

And every jurisdiction through that partnership completes a greenhouse gas inventory each year.

So based on 2016 data, Sausalito has reduced its emissions 16% below 2005, or that baseline that all the jurisdictions share.

And according to your current climate action plan, which is adopted in 2015, Your goal was to reduce emissions 15% below 2005 levels by 2020. So in 2016, you've already met your goal, which is great.

For 2030, it's the same as the state goal. So it's a 40% reduction below 2005 by 2030. So we still have a ways to go.
00:31:05.11 Alex Portashavar So this is mentioned previously. So we've talked a lot about that gap.

And the idea that we still need to do a lot to meet our 2030 goals and any future goals that the city might choose.

Yeah, just said.

So this plan was developed by the Sustainability Commission, as was mentioned before.

And the purpose really was to say, hey, we have a long way to go, and there's several actions that we might take that focus in on those areas that make up the most emissions within the city.

So the focus areas are transportation, which makes up 60% of total greenhouse gas emissions and then the built environment.

So that makes up 36% of total greenhouse gas emissions. Very similar to the counties countywide admissions profile.
00:31:55.33 Alex Portashavar Okay.

Now we are going to shift and talk about some initiatives. And the first one I'll discuss is draw down Miranda.
00:32:03.55 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) I have a question.

you
00:32:04.44 Alex Portashavar Of course.
00:32:05.01 Councilmember Just before we leave that last slide, can you talk about whether, so we haven't adopted this low emission action plan yet at the council level. It's just been proposed by the sustainability commission. Can you talk about whether other local jurisdictions have something like this and how they have moved that forward?
00:32:26.02 Alex Portashavar Sure, so my understanding is that this is based on a similar plan that the City of San Rafael and Town of San Edselmo developed
00:32:33.63 Unknown Thank you.

Thank you.
00:32:34.31 Alex Portashavar In my experience working with local governments on climate action planning, I've seen plans like this.

it's almost like an implementation action of the climate action plan. So it brings together several different actions that already exist in your climate action plan.

And it says, hey, these are the priority actions based on our emissions, and this is what we think we can accomplish.

These actions are aligned with other jurisdictions in the county. Maybe even there's funding available that might support those actions. So it seems like there are recommendations coming from the Sustainability Commission in the form of a plan.
00:33:05.86 Councilmember Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Great, thank you.
00:33:11.10 Alex Portashavar Okay, so draw down the rest.
00:33:19.14 Alex Portashavar So what is Drawdown Marin? It was actually a brainchild of a small group of community members that call themselves the Marin Climate Action Network.

And This group realized, just like your sustainability commission and lots of other members of the public, that we really need to be doing more in Marin County to address climate change. So it's great that we all have climate action plans and we've set goals.

but we need to be doing more right now to address this crisis.

So Drawdown Marin is a community driven planning and implementation process to identify and implement local solutions that address climate change. So we want to dramatically reduce greenhouse gas emissions beyond zero.

So not just meet those 40% reduction targets, but get all the way to zero and beyond.

So we need to also think about carbon sequestration in addition to greenhouse gas emission reduction.

So this vision statement was developed by our executive steering committee, and I'll talk about all the different groups that are involved, but our executive steering committee um, Made up of a representative from each of the six different working groups again I'll talk more about those in a few slides and several other members in the community including council member council member with each
00:34:37.56 Alex Portashavar So, our goals. Draudat Morin set its own goals.

The county of Marin hasn't adopted these goals yet. They're suggested goals.

The county is currently updating its climate action plan.

So it could adopt these goals, it could adopt less stringent goals.

If Sausalito decided to update its climate action plan, it could adopt these goals or some other goals.

They again are more aggressive than the state goals.

So 60% reduction below 2005 in greenhouse gas emissions by Marin County by 2030.

and drawdown of greenhouse gas emissions by Marin County below zero by 2045.

Yeah.
00:35:16.46 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) Could you just educate me on below zero or beyond zero, what actions are taken?
00:35:22.55 Alex Portashavar Sure.

So I mentioned carbon sequestration before, that's one example.

So I'll talk about this initiative in a little bit. However, there's already work being done on that front.

20 farms in West Marin that have carbon farm plans. And they've identified ways to keep carbon in the ground.

So carbon is stored in trees, it's stored in soil, it's stored in seagrass.

and we want to preserve that carbon stock And we want to apply practices on ranches and on farms that sequester additional carbon.

Does that make sense?

Okay.
00:36:01.82 Alex Portashavar So this slide identifies some of the opportunities for reduction. This was prepared by Christine O'Rourke. She's actually a consultant to the Marin Climate and Energy Partnership.

She conducts or completes all the greenhouse gas inventories for all the jurisdictions and is also updating the county's climate action plan.

So you'll see that the biggest pie, which isn't surprising, is transportation.
00:36:23.54 Unknown Thank you.
00:36:23.61 Unknown Thank you.
00:36:23.84 Unknown Thank you.
00:36:26.02 Alex Portashavar Then we moved to natural gas. So it was referenced before the building code, right, that applies to new construction and significant remodels.

So this idea that we can reduce our natural gas use in the built environment, And then you'll see agriculture makes up the next biggest portion of this pie.

and there's wastewater and off-road equipment So these are just some of the opportunities.
00:36:53.88 Alex Portashavar So to implement the vision of Drawdown and to achieve the goals that I've gone over, We're using several different frameworks. I'd say that the main framework is the collective impact framework.

So this is a model that several different initiatives in California and actually across the U.S.

use when there's a very complex problem and there are lots of different individuals and parties involved.

So there are five indicators for success for this.

Developing a common agenda. So we want everyone involved, the cities and towns, the public, elected officials, staff, we all want to share a common agenda. What are we doing? How are we doing it? When are we going to do it by?

We want shared measurements.

So we want to measure whether or not we're making progress toward our goals. And what are we implementing? How fast are we doing it? What else could we be doing instead? We want to be really transparent about our progress.

We also want to identify mutually reinforcing activities, which means that there are lots of efforts already underway in the county. There are nonprofits, there are all the different jurisdictions, There are public agencies, quasi-governmental agencies. They're all doing really amazing work.

And, One of Drawdown's main focus areas is connecting those dots.

So not necessarily recreating anything, but identifying ways that we can work together.

Ongoing communications.

So we want everyone to be able to communicate in a seamless way. So we've identified several different platforms to do that. It's a work in progress. We have online platforms. Actually, tomorrow we're hosting a workshop for all of the people that are participating in Drawdown.

close to 140 people.

where they can get to know each other better and better understand what those, what individuals and the individual groups are working on.

And the other big component is this backbone organization and that's that top orange.

piece of this diagram.

So the county is currently serving in that role.

And really we're helping to coordinate the efforts, we're helping to develop those shared measurement practices, common agenda.

and help connect the dots when it comes to activities that are occurring in the county.
00:39:04.05 Alex Portashavar So I oftentimes get asked what success looks like for Drawdown, and here are some of the key outcomes.

We want all the participants and the public to think that the county is effectively coordinating the effort.

We're developing a shared vision. So it's not just what the county thinks is best or what Sausalito thinks is best. It's what everyone collectively decides is the right path forward to address climate change.

We want to make sure we're working together and that we're identifying aligned activities and that we're supporting one another. We're not competing for resources, but we're figuring out how we can work together and apply for those, seek those resources together.

WE DO WANT TO DEVELOP and prioritize and implement solutions from those six different focus areas, which I'll go over.

So they could be existing ideas that we want to expand or elevate. They could be brand new ideas. They can be projects, they can be programs, they can be policies.
00:39:56.03 Unknown programs.
00:39:59.32 Alex Portashavar We wanna mobilize funding.

So we need to identify a long-term funding source. Yes, we need to go after grants. We need to think about how members of the public contribute.

to the overall cost of addressing climate change.

And then like I mentioned, We want to be open and transparent about what we're doing, what we're doing well, and what we're not doing well. So developing metrics so that we can report on our progress to everyone.
00:40:29.27 Alex Portashavar So our process, it's a two-year process as it stands right now. As I mentioned, I've been with the county a little over a year. So I was hired in September of last year to coordinate this effort.

It's a community-driven process. The community is involved in lots of different ways.

communities involved in those six different working groups as members of our executive steering committee, our community partnership council that's really focused on engaging the public and marketing the initiative and encouraging people to take individual action.
00:40:56.26 Unknown Thank you.
00:40:59.17 Alex Portashavar We have several different groups. So we have an executive steering committee I mentioned before. They're helping to oversee the effort and provide strategic guidance. They meet on a monthly basis.

They hear from those six different collaboratives or the working groups.

So they've heard from four groups so far their ideas about what solutions we should implement locally They also talk about things like funding.

So how will we fund these solutions? How will we fund the initiatives?

We have a partnership council.

So it's made up of people who are already engaged with the public and have been for years. They're marketing experts.

There are representatives from organizations already doing this work, like Environmental Forum Marin, like Sustainable Marin, like Sustainable San Rafael.

We also have a group of advisors, so people that don't have time to participate in one of those groups, our technical experts, our policy experts, and our on-call.

If one of our working groups has a specific question, I can connect them with an advisor.

So the end result is the strategic plan.

that will go to the board of supervisors next fall at the same time as the updated county climate action plan That strategic plan will outline What was our process?

What solutions did we identify?

What funding did we seek and receive? What funding do we need to get?

What are some of our near-term and mid-term goals related to the implementation of those solutions? And then also talk about community engagement, marketing, behavior change campaigns. Okay.

Um...

Fundraising.

Fundraising, fundraising, everyone looks to talk about the need for funding and it's true. So that strategic plan identifies some near term fundraising targets and And I think that's a good question.

Seek that money.
00:42:45.64 Alex Portashavar Okay, at long last, here are the six different groups. These are the working groups. These are made up of anywhere between 10 and 30 people.

They meet over a six month time frame.

And they are developing the solutions. Again, the programs, the projects, the policies, the tangible things that we can be implementing at a local level to address climate change.

So renewable energy, transportation, buildings and infrastructure, and carbon sequestration have already worked over a six month period and presented to our steering committee.

Two solutions from those four groups have been offered preliminary endorsement.

So one thing the steering committee did was develop It developed evaluation criteria, so wanted to know, This proposed solution, will it help us meet our goals?

So the first indoor solution is Drive Clean Marin.

And the second Endura solution is the Marin Carbon Farming Initiative.

And I'll talk more about that in a couple of slides.

The local food and food waste group kicked off last week, and the last group, climate resilient communities, will kick off December 18th. Really exciting. It means all six groups will be functioning on a path towards presenting to the steering committee.

I did want to mention that several Individuals in this community are already participating in drawdown. So as I mentioned, Councilmember Withee is on our Executive Steering Committee.

Greg Thompson from the Sustainability Commission is on the Buildings and Infrastructure Group.

Okay.

And Lauren Wiley is actually a future member of the Climate Resilient Communities Group.
00:44:28.76 Alex Portashavar So I mentioned some of the solutions or the projects that have come from these six different working groups.

So, The Advanced Community Energy Pilot, so this is actually something that Greg worked on within the Buildings and Infrastructure Group.

So this involves lots of different components, including distributed energy resources like solar, battery storage, electric vehicles, electric fuel charging and battery backup, load shifting, so the time of day in which we use energy, automated demand response. So you can enroll in a program And your refrigerator gets automatically shut off and you get compensated for that time for the hour in the evening where we get our power from dirtier sources.

The all electric shared mobility hub is focused on the Larkspur ferry terminal. So looking at how we can increase the number of electric vehicle charging stations, if it's possible to add solar.

how we can encourage people to use bike share or e-bike share, what's the proper method for checking those bikes out. Maybe people need to take them home and keep them and then return them the next day.

How can we integrate SMART when it goes to Larkspur?

So, several different components.

Drive Clean Marin, there's also Drive Clean Bay Area and several Drive Clean other counties, so Contra Costa County and Alameda County.

This really focuses on getting people out of their internal combustion engine vehicles, of their gasoline powered cars.

into an electric car.

So the idea isn't to purchase an additional vehicle, It's to say, I'm okay not driving my gasoline car, and I instead want to purchase an electric vehicle, or maybe a plug-in electric vehicle, or even a hybrid vehicle.

The Marin Carbon Farming Initiative, that's the second solution that was endorsed, and that's really scaling up an existing practice. So the Marin Resource Conservation District interacts with farmers and ranchers all of the time, And they, along with the Marin Carbon Project, and the Carbon Cycle Institute.

have been developing carbon farm plants.

that identify specific practices that if applied to the land can sequester more carbon.

There's a tool.

that was developed in part by the University of Colorado that helps quantify the sequestration benefits associated with those practices.

So much potential in West Moran.

There are 20 of these carbon farm plans, so this initiative suggests that we should scale that work up and develop additional farm plans you and seek additional funding and resources for the RCD and those other organizations I mentioned.
00:47:03.42 Alex Portashavar Okay.

So, what is equity?

I bring this up because it's in our vision statement. We want to create a thriving, resilient, and equitable future for all.

So what does equity mean?

We actually don't have a definition yet of what is equity.

we are working on it. Here are some examples.

The last one is specific to climate, so I'll read that aloud.

Climate equity ensures that all people have the opportunity to benefit equally from climate solutions, while not taking on an unequal burden of climate impacts.

So we want to think about.

What is our impact?

Who's most responsible for climate change? Who might be susceptible to climate change impacts?

So what are we doing to address equity?

We actually worked with the Marin Community Foundation and several community organizations to design a process to engage communities of color in all ways in the initiative.

So we received $127,000 grant to implement a process that wasn't designed by the county but was designed by some of our community organizations.

the Canal Alliance, the Marin Multicultural Center, West Marine Community Services, the Marin City People's Plan and the Marin City Community Development Corporation.

So this is a one-year project.

and it involves several different components.

We are hiring community ambassadors.

So community members that already have amazing relationships with their neighbors and kind of are already seen as leaders.

We're training them more about climate change and drawdown and we're paying them for their time.

We're offering a free seven week online storytelling training.

So community members have stories to tell, but maybe they haven't received training on how best to tell them so that leaders, elected officials, listen to their stories.

They're also being compensated if they participate in that training.

WE ARE offering a full day equity training for all of the drawdown Marin participants. So all of the collaborative members, the steering committee, and the partnership council.

It's a diversity, equity, and inclusion training.

So we'll talk about some of the systemic issues that lead to inequities around climate change but also in general.

We're hosting an open town hall where community members can display projects that tie to their priorities.

And we're awarding funding.

to those projects. We think three projects, $8,500 per project, but that could change.
00:49:31.30 Alex Portashavar Okay, so how can cities and towns get involved? So lots of different ways. The first is to join the stakeholder collaborative.

Four of them have already launched and are working. There's still work going on in those collaboratives to some degree. So if you have an interest in one of those four that have already launched, that's okay.

Local food and food waste just kicked off, so great opportunity to get involved. And climate resilient communities has yet to kick off. That's towards the end of December.

We're looking for implementation partners. So the county can't do this on its own and it really shouldn't.

Can the city of Sausalito, or can an organization based in Sausalito Um, help us to implement one of the strategies. And I'm asking this of all the cities and towns.

to think about ways we can collaborate.

Help us get the word out. So I mentioned our community partnership council.

always seeking people to serve as community ambassadors. So we train those people on on how to talk about drawdown. We have kits, so you wanna go to an event, We have flyers, we have information, not just about Drawdown, but about all the organizations and all the efforts that exist in the county.

and Really, we are asking if you're going to an event already, Talk about drawdown. Talk about this coordinated effort that's happening across the county.

Collaborate with Drawdown. So can we co-sponsor an event?

Can we seek funding together? So think about ways that we might be able to collaborate.
00:50:58.29 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) We have one question first, Alex.
00:50:59.74 Councilmember Withee Alex.

You mentioned earlier and we've talked about a lot the concept of the backbone organization and that was one of the central
00:51:08.12 Alice Merrill and,
00:51:10.35 Councilmember Withee sort of frameworks around which this started with the county being the backbone.

We've also talked about extending the backbone potentially and having cities involved. Could you comment on that a little bit? It might be a bit premature for you to do it, but could you comment on that?
00:51:18.91 Unknown Thank you.
00:51:18.93 Alex Portashavar and
00:51:25.96 Alex Portashavar moment.

We'll be too.

So in addition to these six groups, there are several ad hoc subcommittees. So what happens is that issues come up.

THAT.

members of the steering committee or members of a collaborative are really interested in pursuing further. So one example.

is a green bank. Another example is what is the governance structure that we need to develop kind of after September of next year?

So we've been thinking a lot about how we fund these initiatives, how we would collect funding from lots of different sources, and then Who would decide how to allocate that funding?

And that really gets into Council Member Withy's question around governance.

Maybe we create yet another joint powers authority. Or maybe we create a countywide sustainability commission. Or maybe we utilize an existing And I think that's a great question.

you know, collection of the different jurisdictions, like the Marin Climate and Energy Partnership, which is a program of a JPA.

So.

We're actually working with a law student at UC Berkeley who's researching these different governance options and is also doing research locally about How did MCE get farmed and what was that process like?

presenting to us in a memo some recommendations on that front.

But we really need the cities and towns to be more engaged in this process and to really have buy-in.

to make this worthwhile moving forward.

Does that answer your question? Yeah.

Great.

Okay, so I mentioned that we're developing these new ideas or we're identifying existing initiatives that we can expand There are also several actions that we can take right now.

So the remainder of this presentation is about all the existing things that you can participate in that citizens of Asosolito can participate in. And I should say the county is here to help. So we oftentimes serve as an advisor and we help facilitate participation in the programs that are on these slides.

Okay, so for existing homes, reduce your energy use. We have several different programs that provide an opportunity to conduct a home energy assessment and identify measures to implement in your home, and then offer rebates to reduce the cost of those.

I wanted to mention too, although it's not on the slide, but was brought up earlier, that my colleague, Alice Zandmiller, just came to the Sustainability Commission and presented on the latest Title 24 green building code update.

So the county has adopted that latest update, And now the county is available to help with ordinance language, training, and implementation if the jurisdictions in the county would like to adopt a similar green building code. So that code is focused on sustainable building design for new construction and also major renovations.

All electric buildings, electric vehicle charging.
00:54:23.62 Alex Portashavar So another option to reduce home energy use available right now.

He is a home upgrade advisor.

So it's actually a really cool program. You call a number, you talk to a live person, And It's totally free. So you can talk to them about your different issues. My windows are very old or my attic leaks hot air.

And they'll discuss with you the options for programs you can participate in and rebates you can take advantage of and even financing programs that are available.

So we can take advantage of the fact that our power is generated by MCE Clean Energy. So there are several options. You can opt up to Deep Green, which is on average about five extra dollars a month.

You should do that right now, today.

You can opt into local soul, which is a little bit more expensive.

an extra $25 a month.

These are averages.

PG&E also offers a local solar program So yes, these are an additional cost and they might not be feasible for all customers but $5 a month seems relatively reasonable, so I would encourage everyone to opt up
00:55:33.65 Alex Portashavar This was also mentioned before. So we saw on that pie chart that natural gas reduction is a really key reduction opportunity area.

So the county received a grant from the Bay Area Air Quality Management District, or BACAMED, to implement a rebate program to incentivize people to switch from natural gas And propane.

too electric.

So rebates are available on a first come, first serve basis.

Um, Single-family property owners countywide are eligible for the rebates, and you'll see some different rebate amounts listed here. So we have someone who manages this program. You can talk to him. You can talk to him about what you're considering for your home, and he can help work through the process.
00:56:22.56 Alex Portashavar Again, transportation, one of our biggest opportunities for reduction. So you've heard this all before, but bike to work, bike to school, carpool. Consider driving an electric vehicle if you can afford it.

And...

Really just get out of your car, right? Helps with congestion, helps with air pollution, helps reduce our transportation related emissions.
00:56:47.67 Alex Portashavar Get educated and take action. So this slide focuses on sea level rise. So the county has done several assessments to better understand what the current impacts are from high tide and from storm related events, and also what projected sea level rise may look like.

So obviously very relevant in Sausalito.

So there's a lot of information online.

So you can go there and learn more.
00:57:14.51 Alex Portashavar This is probably my favorite slide.

We've been thinking a lot about the need to build better relationships in your own community. So to know your neighbors, to be prepared for disasters, and we've seen kind of how this plays out with the public safety power shutoffs. So start a resilient neighborhoods team. This is an amazing program that's available in Marin.

It's a it's an opportunity to build community to understand what your personal carbon footprint is and to identify actions that you're willing to take without judgment You can also work with your community to start a community emergency response team. You can participate in Fire Safe Marin and identify a plan for your neighborhood.

So lots of different opportunities, again, to get to know each other better and to be more resilient to the many impacts of climate change that we'll likely see.
00:58:09.49 Alex Portashavar That's it. I've answered some of your questions, but I'm happy to answer more.
00:58:14.14 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) I'll start with a question because I have a question.

As you've probably seen on CNN, we're currently in a general plan update process here in Sausalito. Right?

Thank you.
00:58:30.08 Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles Right.
00:58:30.20 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) like,
00:58:30.40 Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles JUST TICKLED ME.
00:58:30.96 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) .
00:58:31.16 Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles Thank you.
00:58:31.20 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Okay.

But so a lot of our the talk right now is community planning, right, and design and policies.
00:58:37.49 Unknown Thank you.
00:58:37.51 Unknown you
00:58:37.69 Unknown Thank you.
00:58:43.60 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Is the state solution to housing for small communities that don't have land or that are built out seems to be up zoning in our.

low density residential areas and ADUs. Both putting for us a lot of pressure in our hillside community to take the housing.

Which is, if it's still a quarter mile of transportation, it could be four or five or 600 feet of elevation, no sidewalk.

So.

In looking at the transportation element of 60% of greenhouse gas, where would you suggest community design features such as housing near the transportation corridors or shopping corridors or things that communities should look at that are fairly basic planning but that helps in this discussion as well because I think communities are always kind of in their community design.

PLANNING.

Um, So would you agree that we should?

We seem to have a conflict with the state as far as how we're going to solve greenhouse gas and housing with the same vehicle, or with the same item. But I guess what I'm looking for is where would we best
00:59:48.95 Unknown Thank you.
01:00:02.10 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) put our housing to reduce our transportation.
01:00:05.95 Alex Portashavar million dollar questions you just asked me.
01:00:07.06 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Mm-hmm.
01:00:09.00 Alex Portashavar I don't think there's a one size fits all.

I would encourage user centered design, which is to instead of designing a concept that aligns with the state or that you think is the best practice to ask people who live here, how they might get out of their vehicle or change the way that they get to work or school.

So I can't tell you what the solution is.

It's hard for everybody.

um, We haven't really identified the MCE of transportation, right? The default that allows us to achieve those significant reductions. But I think it's really important to consider before, for example, spending a lot of money on a bike share.
01:00:40.51 Unknown MAKING THEM.
01:00:46.30 Alex Portashavar Will people use it, right? What is really the issue for them? Why do they feel the need to take their car?

It requires time and energy for sure, surveys and small focus groups, but I think that that kind of approach pays off in the end.

Um, But, No, I'm not a housing expert.
01:01:04.12 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) yeah or transportation frankly because a lot of this has to do with we're redoing parking lots we're redesigning our transportation
01:01:06.33 Alex Portashavar a lot of this
01:01:12.57 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) location, our transportation hub, so to speak. All those we want to take into consideration, proper ideas and policies that reduce the need for transportation in a car.
01:01:24.37 Alex Portashavar Yeah, I would just again say, think about the end user.

So yes, people living here, but people who commute here and work here and kind of how are they using the space and what are our priorities for them.

What are the priorities for businesses? I mean, we talked about, or I heard, the issues with the loading zone.

Figuring out a way to ask businesses why it is that the deliveries are coming that are you know coming during those times I mean takes time, but I think it's worth it
01:01:50.05 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Great. Thank you.

Other questions?
01:01:57.68 Sandra Bushmaker Thank you.
01:01:59.06 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Any questions? I'm open to public comment and otherwise.
01:02:00.36 Sandra Bushmaker All right.
01:02:05.07 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) All right, I'm going to open up to public comment. Is there any public comment? I have no cards of 6A. Anybody want to speak to 6A?

Seeing no public comment. Oh, yeah, got Dennis.

I'm sorry, you've got to come up to the mic.
01:02:21.71 Unknown Thank you.
01:02:24.12 David Sudo Thank you very much for your speech.
01:02:24.59 Dennis Webb Thank you very much for your speech. Very informative. San Francisco adopted a policy or some rules, I guess, about seven years ago. They changed the zoning of about 80% of San Francisco. So basically, Chestnut Street, Union Street, all these commercial streets, that basically had retail down below that basically could be built vertically higher Before, what would happen is If you were going to add two units onto your existing one-story building, you'd have to have two car stalls per unit. So if you had a nice little storefront on Chestnut Street and you had a 55-foot height limitation equals 10 foot per floor vertically, you could put a few floors on it, like three or four floors, and you could create housing.

I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF The deal is what they did was they changed the parking law.

where You don't have to have two parking stalls per unit.

Well, by doing that, that means that you can't really have a car. That helps with the whole climate thing. But they do require bicycle parking, electric car chargers, things like that. So one thing that Sauce Leo could do immediately is, has changed that.

parking deals when you're one, if people want to add on to their single family dwelling, if it's zoned for multiple units, like all of Bridgeway, So if someone on top of, what is it, Sausalito Deli or bakery wanted to add two floors up and not affect anyone's views, they could do so without adding Fuck it.

So that would help our our housing.

problem, but it would also help the whole parking, the vehicle thing. And then it gets people, if you don't have a garage, you're more open to using the ferry or Uber or bicycles and things like that.

So that's something that a sociolio could do immediately is change the rules.

and of the parking requirements. And that's something that could happen right now.
01:04:27.88 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thanks, Dennis.

Any other public comment?

We got a couple of questions.
01:04:35.27 Ting (Chair of Sustainability Commission) Hi, I'm Ting, I'm the Chair of the Sustainability Commission. Alex, thank you so much for your presentation, that was really helpful.

We, the sustainability mission, have been working on many things, and two things I'd like to comment on is, one, you asked the question about transportation emissions, the 60% of that coming from transportation. So one thing we're working on and we think is very impactful is we need to electrify emissions from cars as well, so meaning EV...

electric vehicles, but also meaning EV charging stations. So right now in Sausalito, there is not one single public EV charging station available.

And that's something we've been working on trying to identify and figure out how we move forward with that. And we've identified grants that can fund at least the hardware element and we can figure out how we can finance the labor piece. So that's the one thing. And the second thing I wanted to comment on was since you brought up the general plan, I watched the last meeting as they are now going through the different things proposed. And I'm a little wary that the general plan is eliminating many things relevant to climate change. Maybe due to a lack of understanding of the issues and how they impact climate change.

or just, yeah, I don't know why, but this is happening, and I would propose one thing that could help.

or two things actually one thing it would be great to have the City Council I don't know how you can influence but some way to make sure that Climate change and sustainability is front and center already in the objectives, so they inform the entire plan. It is not a siloed approach. It needs to encompass every single thing that we touch moving forward the next 20 years.

And the second thing being, just for more clarity, the feedback on the things that they have been eliminating has been either items are too general or items are too vague, which doesn't really seem to make sense because how is it too vague and too general at the same time? So just wondering if there's any way that City Council can help maybe the GPAC identify evaluation criteria as they go through these different elements. So that it's more clear to the public why something's being eliminated or not. And maybe it's just a lack of understanding and then the sustainability commission is happy to come in and elaborate.

That's all. Thank you. Thank you.
01:07:01.48 Unknown Thank you.

Thank you.
01:07:05.12 Unknown have it.

Advent Chambers speaking to you as your city librarian tonight. I just wanted to say that the library will be hosting a Resilient Neighborhoods group that will be beginning on January 21st. So that's where you can form a team to reduce your carbon footprint. They'll meet five times, so five sessions every two weeks for two hours down in the Edgewater room. And you can register to join by going to resilientneighborhoods.org and signing up.
01:07:26.84 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Yeah.
01:07:33.10 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.

Any other public comment on this item? Seeing none, we'll close public comment and bring it up here for Reflections.
01:07:47.18 Councilmember Sure, I'll start. So thank you. It was a great presentation, really exciting. And I think the most important thing for us as kind of local...

elected leaders is to figure out practical implementation solutions at all levels of our governance structure. So right now, this is just an amazing opportunity for Sausalito because we are updating our 1995 general plan, which did have a lot of good sustainability.

initiatives in it, but I think, you know, I would just say that if we are to achieve the types of goals that the county is talking about, we need to be incredibly aggressive in our general plan about framing where we want to be in the next 20 to 30 years. So, you know, I think to the extent that the county can both help local jurisdictions understand what policies, you know, are kind of consistent with the county's policies. That is helpful. both help local jurisdictions understand what policies are kind of consistent with the county's policies. That is helpful.

you know, at the Sustainability Commission the other night, I thought it was very...

helpful to have kind of a pod, you know, ready-made reach building code, approach that local jurisdictions can either take wholesale or could take there was kind of a half measure, you know, and it's ready to go. So if we want to make strides on our building code requirements and have a REACH building code, the county has made it pretty easy to do that.

And so I think if you can replicate that with transportation elements. So, for example, we are kind of struggling with where and how to locate charging stations. And, you know, if we could just...

We're repaving lot two right now downtown next to the Bank of America building. You know, it'd be great if there was some easy way to just get five EV charging stations, kind of ready-made package, just to start that effort because if we don't start now, it makes it harder for people to buy and use electric vehicles. So I think as part of the drawdown effort, I guess my feedback back would be to the extent that these different committees can come up with.

easily adaptable Um, concepts either at a high level for general plans at a mid-level for strategic plans or at an implementation ordinance program level that that would be that would be really helpful because i think we just need to start right away even if we don't have the perfect adopted um endorsed strategies that that we need to get going um I also, we have the low emissions action plan that other jurisdictions have had similar things with the state's 40% goal. So I guess the other thing that would be interesting to hear is how can we Reach that to the higher goals that the county is is kind of setting and what are the financial implications of that? I So, And then I think locally we need to think big, but we also need to think really small. Again, just getting some pods of charging stations. One of the things that I think inhibits people taking transit is getting to transit. We have really poor parking up at our Spencer bus pad. Once it's full, it's full by 8.30, 8.45 in the morning. You're not gonna take transit if you had to take your kid to school or pick up run an errand, you just can't. There's no place to park up there. So one of the more things I was thinking about is getting more bike lockers, both encouraging electric bike use because we're a very hilly town. I think everyone on the council is tired of hearing me talk about my cool new electric bike. But it's a really easy way to get up to the highway, but you're not going to leave a fairly expensive bike up there. So if we had bike lockers at the fire station, old fire station, it's a much more efficient parking mechanism, or even people with scooters or other things could use that. I'm not sure Sausalito is dense enough for bike share, but we could certainly...

And also, same thing down with the ferry. We have a great bike parking during the summer, but during the winter, there's no safe place to park your bike down on Bridgeway.

all day. So kind of concepts like that, thinking small and being creative.

So I appreciate the big kind of thinking that's happening with Drawdown Marin and I can't wait to hear what comes out of that, but I also think.

We need some easy solutions or some quick solutions now too.
01:12:45.69 Alex Portashavar Is it possible for me to respond briefly? You bet. Great.
01:12:47.13 Councilmember Exactly.
01:12:47.35 Ting (Chair of Sustainability Commission) Thank you.

Thank you.
01:12:47.70 Councilmember Thank you.
01:12:48.92 Alex Portashavar So the county can help right now identify ideal charging station location and also help the city apply for rebates that exist. So the Transportation Authority of Marin offers rebates to public agencies for electric vehicle chargers. We just completed a big project at the Civic Center and over 40 charging stations, and we're in the process of doing the same thing at Los Gamos. So we can help.
01:13:01.17 Sandra Bushmaker .
01:13:12.51 Alex Portashavar The city understand how it needs to work with PG&E, what rebates and incentives are available, what is the power available at a particular site, do we need upgrades on existing PG&E infrastructure, so that's something we can do right now.

I'm not sure.

I think some of the things you talked about in relation to e-bikes and bike lockers, tie back to my comment around user centered design, right? Which is to better understand that people who are parking there and who would want to take public transit but don't, what do they need?

because I would have, that sounds great, but maybe that's not what they actually need. Maybe they need something else or different, or some people actually do need the items that you brought up.

It's those kind of small focus groups and testing things out and coming back and tweaking them and testing them out again.
01:13:53.23 Councilmember Yeah, well I think that is what people need. I mean, I take the bus every day to San Francisco, but a lot of people
01:13:54.16 Alex Portashavar I'm sorry.

Thank you.

Thank you.
01:13:58.71 Councilmember go up to park, I mean you hear this all the time, oh I couldn't take the bus yesterday because I went up to park and I had to drive in.
01:14:00.38 Alex Portashavar Thank you.
01:14:05.89 Councilmember because there was no more parking. And, you know, I think it's both creating more parking near the freeway...
01:14:05.94 Alex Portashavar because, Yeah.
01:14:15.35 Councilmember And the Golden Gate Transit is frequent and easy and nice. And it's got Wi-Fi, so it's great, but it is hard to find accessible places to access. It's harder to access the first last mile issue, really.

it.
01:14:41.05 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) Thank you Alex, thanks for the presentation. I also want to thank Council Member Withey for your participation in this, so thank you.
01:14:45.66 Unknown Thank you.
01:14:45.69 Unknown Yeah.
01:14:48.81 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) I think this is good timing to hear this, especially as part of the general plan.
01:14:52.29 Unknown Mm-hmm.
01:14:52.75 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) Your goals for 2040 is kind of the, view of our general plan that we're working on. So the timing is very relevant and I do believe it should be part of the general plan. And one comment I'll make for the community is there is a great desire for us in the future to attract innovation centers to deal with climate change downstream.

to deal with sea level rise.

Well, the best way to attract those grant dollars or attract those people to this community, is to set the example upstream.

Right? We're doing our best to reduce it. And so what I hope is that we're not here doing our fair share with the rest we're in. I think we should set a goal to set the pace.

And be as creative as we can, and if that becomes kind of what drives our community, we're very aggressive as a community, that in turn will help us attract, I think, the investments and dollars down the road to deal with things like that diagram showed sea level rise, which is a big issue for us. So just a comment and share.

Right.
01:15:52.03 Councilmember Yeah.
01:15:52.05 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) Yeah.
01:15:52.06 Councilmember Thank you.
01:15:53.78 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) you
01:15:55.51 Councilmember I will echo the comments of my fellow council members. Thank you for a very informative presentation.

I learned a lot as a council member looking at our general plan and other things, but also just as an individual about what I as a resident can opt into and how I can participate more.

as a person who lives in Sausalito, so I really appreciated the presentation from both of those perspectives. And I agree that your 2040 goals are perfect for our general plan goals, because this is going to be our blueprint for the next 20 years. And as the chair of the GPAC, I will say we are committed to incorporating into the various elements all of the goals associated with creating a more sustainable community and drawing down on our use of you know, power throughout the community. So we will figure out the best way to execute on those goals. Thanks.
01:17:04.25 Councilmember Withee Alex, thanks so much. That was a great presentation. So just to give a bit of background, I was initially asked whether I wanted to come and take a look at the Executive Steering Committee because at the time I was President of MCCMC, the Marin County Council of Mayors and Council Members. So I don't represent Sol Solito on this. I actually don't represent MCC on this. I'm now just someone who's now on the executive committee helping out. So I'm the only city representative, I think, Alex, I guess. David, no, David's not on it, no.
01:17:42.97 Alex Portashavar and Jubeck
01:17:43.72 Councilmember Withee Yeah, that's right, Gretchen, from, so really there's not much city representation at the moment.

Why I asked Alex a question about backbone is that seems to me the thing I've learned through this initiative and I've also learned through the county's Bay Wave initiative.

And, by the way, I completely agree with Council Member Riley. One of our best opportunities here is to actually become an innovation hub for sea level rise, for example. And that's probably where the marineship needs to go. But, you know, we have an enormous opportunity here to take the lead. And so I would echo some of the comments that Council Member, our Vice Mayor echoed earlier, that we need to be, and that Councilmember Riley indicated, we need to be aggressively in front.

you And I think that would, there's no reason why we shouldn't. We have all the means and the ability to do so and we're positioned to do that. We have a great sustainability commission. Thank you for coming tonight, those who have come.

Part of what I'd like to see and I've been asking this question is whether we can extend the backbone concept into a network of the county and cities, or the county and some cities. And if we can work through and figure out whether that makes sense, I think Sausalito ought to consider joining Drawdown in some sort of backbone mode. Again, in terms of things I've learned from both from this, I've also I had the privilege of being on the board of directors of MCE for the last seven years. And what I realize is that a lot of people just don't understand the programs that are available, say, from there. Or some of the programs that are available from TAM or some of the programs that are available from the county. And one of the most important things we need to do is to find the means to integrate all of this. Energy savings in buildings, for instance. MCE through funding from the CPUC, sorry I'm using a lot of acronyms. The CPUC is the California Public Utilities Commission, funds MCE to the tune of $10 million a year to fund energy efficiency.
01:19:42.90 Unknown Thank you.
01:19:43.03 Unknown Right.
01:19:43.16 Unknown Yeah.
01:20:12.44 Councilmember Withee PG&E has energy efficiency programs. And so, but do we, communicate that enough within our city or does each city communicate enough that there are programs available for some of these things.

THE Final thing is that, of course, you know, I, you've, there's always going to be setbacks. And unfortunately, the, and so hopefully some of these setbacks are just transient in nature. The public safety power shutoffs.

have really put a damper on some of the discussion around electrification.
01:20:57.89 Unknown Mm-hmm.
01:20:58.07 Councilmember Withee unfortunately. And I know some of our seniors in town, I mean if you talk to them about electrifying their building and they happen to be gas and it was gas that kept them going during the power shutoffs, they're going to be reluctant. So we've got to somehow get over that and find solutions for them. So anyway, I'm This is a fantastic effort. I'm really pleased you came, and I think we just need to keep the discussion going so that we can begin to integrate a lot of this, and particularly integrate a lot of this into our general plan.
01:21:35.91 Unknown Mm-hmm.
01:21:38.22 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Yeah, I think I'll start where you left off. I think a lot of us are concerned because we were, you know, we were for so many years told that dual, Sources of energy was key to residential.

Because anything can happen, an earthquake can happen and your gas goes out, you need electricity. Something else can happen, your electricity goes out, you need gas. But two sources is better than one for a lot of different reasons. So I think we need to make sure that our one source is going to be.

sustainable. Um, so I appreciate all the comments and everything, Alex. I think this is exactly like, like, like, uh, council member Riley said, I think this is exactly the conversation we should be having right now. Um, I appreciate your comment that, um, It needs to be specific to our own communities. And as I look across Marin, I think in a lot of the transportation areas, we're more closely related to San Francisco than we are the other parts of Marin in that A large portion of our housing can't charge a vehicle.

Um, They don't have driveways or garages and there's only street parking that you might not get the same spot every time. Not that it couldn't with changes, but we have to get policies in the ground today. We're under, like, as Vice Mayor Cleveland-Knowles said, we're doing a parking lot right now. Well, we needed policies before. We didn't have the money, but we needed to have policies. So we need to start enacting these things now and not just climate change is coming. Climate change is here. It's already impacting us in many ways. I completely agree, and I'm glad you said it, Tom, about the innovation of the industry here. And we've said how the marineship is a great opportunity for incubating innovation. That would be the ideal industry to incubate innovation and do it like an I-3. So I hope that that's a planned policy that we can incorporate before too long. So, you know, we have the information. We just have to start saying yes and put it on paper and get it out the door and doing it.

You provide us all the information, we're the policy makers.

Let's do stuff because climate change is here and we have to drop out. No other way around it.

Yeah.
01:23:53.35 Unknown Yeah.
01:23:53.66 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
01:23:55.38 Councilmember Withee Sorry for speaking again, but I wrote down a point I wanted to make and then forgot to read my own notes.

Charging stations, again, in the spirit of there isn't enough communication around. MCE has funded up to 750 charging stations in Marin, some of them in their own facilities. And so now admittedly some of that is biased towards multi-family because that's where the problem with charging is. And some of it's for underserved communities as well, which is where the problem is. So whether we would qualify for some of the grants or some of the efforts is, I don't know. But again, communication to make sure we know what all the different agencies are doing.
01:24:47.37 Councilmember And...

Yeah, I would just really like to endorse also what Councilmember Withey said about the backbone and including cities in this discussion because as you develop meaningful policies and programs and implementation measures, you know, a lot of the burden of implementing them will be on us.

I think we need to both be informed and to also be educated so that when these are ready to roll out, we're ready to go.

So I think I would really endorse if there aren't that many city representatives city managers city employees electeds you know whatever you think the appropriate thing is it sounds like we've got engaged citizens which is great but that would be really helpful Thank you.
01:25:38.69 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) All right, good job. Thank you, Alex. Appreciate it. Our recommended motion is to receive and file, but I suggest that we receive and get going.
01:25:46.79 Alex Portashavar Thank you.

Thanks for having me and for your great ideas. I appreciate it.
01:25:50.52 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Next.

All right, item 6B is our 2019 Circulation Management End of Season Report. In consideration of a second amendment to the Sausalito Bicycle Congestion Management Agreement for 2020. I'll call up Lieutenant Stacy Gregory.
01:26:25.73 Lieutenant Stacy Gregory Okay, thank you for having me, Lieutenant Stacy Gregory. I'm here to give you our end of season update for the congestion slash circulation plan that we operated downtown this season.

First, I want to call out our partners. Obviously, Sauceto Bike Return, John and Lisa Scopazi, who are in the audience tonight. Golden Gate Ferry and Blue and Gold Ferry. The operations manager in Golden Gate Transit is in the audience, Colette Martinez. The bicycle rental companies who participate in the bicycle return. Obviously, our parking enforcement staff who help maintain the chaos and impound the violators.

And then our taxicab drivers, which we also have some of our taxicab drivers in the audience tonight, Um.

you know, help us move people along.

So we'll talk about our success. We're certainly a well oiled machine now.

and we're getting things done and not having really any issues whatsoever throughout the year, which is great. Our season ran from March 23rd through October 13th of this year. We had ambassador services who were, you know, counting bikes and also moving people along, getting them to their right destination, bike parking, bike return, and this year, Saucerito Bike Return,
01:27:49.62 Unknown THE END OF THE END OF THE
01:27:49.67 Unknown Thank you.
01:27:49.81 Unknown Cheers.
01:27:53.13 Lieutenant Stacy Gregory contracted with Golden Gate Ferry and did the queuing as well.

I'm going to go ahead and see what we're doing. I'm going to go ahead and see what we're doing. I'm going to go ahead and see what we're doing. I'm going to go ahead and see what we're doing.

It's just I think that's also helping with our success in a way because we have less bikes to manage. So that's not a bad thing.

So here's the ratio from station one counts to people that actually pay to park their bikes and people that pay to return their bikes. I didn't compare them just because it's so much information, but obviously these numbers are down from last year and the several years before. But we're still, you know, July and August are pretty busy and South Dakota Bike Returns are doing a great job getting the bikes out of here.

This is our monthly gross income. Gross revenues, sus little bike return, as long as they do not exceed the $70,000 income, profit, then they retain 90% of the income, and the city takes their 10%. That's what happened this year, and I'll break that out, but let's see here. So Saucyutu bike return, the revenues overall through the year were just over $217,000. The $23,000 is the initial payment the city gives for the ambassador services, which are non-revenue generating the station one, counter and then the Princess Street monitor to keep bikes flowing. So that $23,000 was the initial payment. And then the sales minus the city's 10% came to the $217,000.

So minus their payroll and their operating costs, which operating costs would include workers comp, insurance, vehicle related, tolls, gas, you name it, anything to run their operation. Their net profit was just under $22,000 this year.
01:29:59.12 Unknown Yeah.
01:30:09.14 Lieutenant Stacy Gregory We just wanted to bring up traffic accidents involving bicycles. So the Southern Marin Fire District, year to date as of writing this report, they had 21 calls for service.

involving a bicycle, this just could be falls from a bicycle.

you know, anything related to a bicycle, those are the numbers they gave me. As far as traffic accident statistics, the police department year to date has taken 10 bicycle collisions, and you'll see six were vehicle at fault and four were the bicycle at fault. So, again, really low numbers based on how many bikes we have coming through.

The bike and scooter share, Sassu to bike return, Had an amazing agreement with Jump. They had the ability to unlock their bikes, move them, bring them back to San Francisco, you name it. We had really no issues other than when we saw one, we'd call John or Lisa.

and ask them to go and get it.

It seems like in this coming year there's going to be some Changes in fact we saw it the last couple weeks of our season jump, change their I guess their operating system on the bikes. So, SOSU to bike return does not have that ability and we don't know if we're going to get it back.

So I've reached out to jump to let them know that we need to figure out Something, otherwise, you know, we're going to be physically impounding their bikes, which includes cutting their locks and bringing their bikes to the police department. It's going to cost them a lot of money. So we're in the process. We may need a new ordinance or to expand on our ordinance to include jump bikes and where they can be parked and left. No other issues with scoot or skip.

Thank you.

scooters we do see a few of them come into town but they always leave with no issues and no other bike or scooter share companies are coming into town at least this year The taxi regulations, I mentioned in one of the updates this year that we started a pilot program, a taxi guide pilot program that's, you know, they're wearing the yellow vests.

It's been super successful, most of the taxi drivers are on board.

They've got a little secret squirrel place where they keep it so whoever's there first can get it. And they use the vest. And peer pressure is actually working a little bit too because they're all self-made rules and they're really holding each other accountable. So it's been great and their relationship with me and the police department has really improved. Some of the regulations, we needed to jump in and do a little bit of enforcement because there's not a lot of enforcement as far as once the permits are issued and the insurance and whatnot. So, the police department, did that and pretty much everybody, all the taxi drivers are in compliance, their permits are where they should be, their stickers are on the outside of their car, you know, and we do regular inspections. And so the taxi issues have really decreased.

The ferry and queuing program Again, no issues. I mean, Sussanobike returned, staffed it and operated. Their, the staff, We're trained in both.

So, you know, if they saw a need, they could pull somebody. And so it just really worked well. And the communication between all the parking enforcement officers, saw a bike return in the ferry, including myself. You know, if there was an issue, it immediately was handled.

There was a new loading and unloading system, which improved the efficiency. They were able to, with the new loading system, get more bikes on, which equaled less boats. So we didn't see any issues there this year other than, and you can see their numbers are consistent with ours as far as the bikes going back southbound on the ferry.

really low.

Some of the highlights and the changes that we made, Handheld square terminals.

Cashless took all electronic payments. There were no issues with it. Super easy.

It saved us actually a lot of money, about $12,000, because we had to rent the machines. We had to pay every time they broke.

Um, It was really a great program, and there were no issues with it at all.

Station one being moved to Richardson and Bridgeway.

Um, We kind of watched it to see how it was going to work.

You know, everybody comes down and they see that city and they want to stop there, whether they're in a car or on a bike, and it's just a big congestion point. And so us having an ambassador there, moving people along, getting them out of the street, telling them where to go was really successful. And they could count the bikes just the same as they were at the top of the hill. So I salute a bike return reported that 100% of their employees returned to work from last year. So that's a big success in my mind.

And also the relationships with the San Francisco bicycle companies is improving. There's signage at the companies that use the bike return. The riders are given little cards and information about what to do when they get to Sausalito with their bike. So I believe that that has also led to our success.

So staff recommends that the council adopt the attached resolution, which is approving the second amendment of the bicycle congestion management agreement with sauce little bike return.

And If the amendment is approved, Sassado Bike Return will continue to provide ambassador bike parking and bike return services for the 2020 season under the same terms and conditions. The amendment only proposes to change certain dates to reflect the 2020 calendar. All other terms remained unchanged. The change of the station one location was also noted in the new contract.
01:36:32.07 Lieutenant Stacy Gregory Any questions?
01:36:34.03 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) I have a math question just to Lieutenant. Math. Not for you to have to do the math, but just to confirm it.
01:36:36.37 Lieutenant Stacy Gregory Yeah.
01:36:42.31 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) We received $21,645 in proceeds and we initially put out 23. So is the delta really $1,300 that we have put into this entire bike management program?
01:36:59.05 Lieutenant Stacy Gregory You could look at it that way, yes.
01:37:00.81 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) world.

We've only spent $1,345. Right.

That's...
01:37:09.26 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) Thank you.
01:37:09.53 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) That's amazing.
01:37:09.97 Councilmember See you.
01:37:10.23 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
01:37:10.24 Councilmember Thank you.
01:37:10.33 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Okay.
01:37:11.20 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) Thank you.
01:37:11.22 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Question.
01:37:11.96 Councilmember No questions.
01:37:13.70 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
01:37:13.72 Councilmember Thank you.
01:37:13.73 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Any other questions?
01:37:14.27 Councilmember Thank you.
01:37:14.44 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) I do have one question.

Without the numbers, I assume most reduction of bikes is related to the rental bikes, because we're seeing in the parking. Do we know the bikes passing through town, are they remaining steady in numbers, increasing? Any sense, do we have that data?
01:37:32.28 Lieutenant Stacy Gregory Rental bikes?
01:37:33.19 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) No, no. Or-
01:37:33.21 Lieutenant Stacy Gregory No, no.

The spandex warriors?
01:37:35.59 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) Yeah, the Spanish, yes.
01:37:37.75 Lieutenant Stacy Gregory Yeah, I don't know that.
01:37:39.32 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) Okay.
01:37:40.92 Lieutenant Stacy Gregory I don't, we don't have the numbers.
01:37:43.62 Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles Can I comment on that?

Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles May as well, because we just recently met with the new Executive Director of TAM And we had that conversation that they're counting bikes.

in town And then the next count is not until you get to some place on Highway 1 at Tam Junction, I believe, where they pick up the count. So we asked if Tam would put a counter.

at gate five or gate six road because that really would tell the commuters. The other thing that our program counts really during prime time.

I think something like 11 to 4, so what happens at 7 in the morning?

to 10 o'clock, and then what happens at three in the afternoon to seven o'clock at night when the commuters are going back and forth. So it sounds like we had support from the executive director to town to add a counter at gate six or gate five road.
01:38:42.30 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Any other questions?

Seeing none, I'll open up to public comment. I have one, David Suto. Any other public comment on this item? If so, file the card. Work him up. David.
01:38:55.48 David Sudo So I think it's great that we leveraged this program and got all this management done for $1,300. That sounds like a win. I'm sure that maximizing people's ability to spend some time in town rather than just hopping on the ferry and getting out of town has some revenue benefits to the town as far as sales tax and things like that and supporting local businesses I would say you know we have these shifting numbers where we've got declining numbers we have a I think this year I've seen a even more electric bikes than ever a lot of people are just turning around and riding back over the bridge after they they stop here for their ice cream cone I would also say that I think we're going to see changes in bicycle patterns in town over the next year. The Richardson San Rafael Bridge just opened this weekend. The initial counts were they counted 3,500 bikes on Saturday and 1,500, about 1,500 on Sunday there. And a lot of these people are going instead of – so I think you're going to see instead of going a lot out and back from San Francisco, you're going to see people start looping, you'll see people from the East Bay looping south through town and you'll see people from San Francisco looping north and not coming back so I think it's going to shift and I was also really encouraged I went to the opening on, and there are not only just a lot of the Spandex Warriors, as people want to call them, but there were a lot of just normal Richmond people that were out, and they were out with their kids on their kids' bikes going up over the bridge, and a lot of people with, like, normal-looking people with e-bikes trying out the bridge and and seeing what's there so I'm really encouraged with that finally I want to say because we're working on general plan and I would note that in the past ten years there's been a bunch of little Bicycles is transportation companies incubating in the Marinship. They tend to incubate in our Marinship. They take advantage of some really good talent in town as far as bicycles and starting new businesses. But they grow, and they tend to grow out of our town and go to places like Petaluma. But they start in our town. So we're already incubating, you know, alternative transportation companies in town. And, you know, as we look at our general plan, we should encourage that because it helps with our climate problems. It helps, it fosters innovation in our town. And if we get our locals out of their cars, it helps with our congestion management issues too. Thank you.
01:41:44.41 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you, David. Any other? I want to call up John and Lisa. Can you come up?

You too, Johnny, yeah. You know where the secret sauce is about this whole thing.

Give us a quick, really quick on what you did this year, what different, what worked kind of following the lieutenant's comments. As well as your confirmation that you agree to this agreement that we're going to. Yes, we agree.
01:42:10.57 Lisa Scopazi We're going to. Yes, we agree. Okay. I think when Lieutenant Stacy asked us for some of the successes from this last year, we loved, like she said, the square terminals. There was not really any issues with people. They loved the fact that they could do Apple Pay and Google Pay.

We could roam around and take payments anywhere on Tracy Way, and any one of us could take payments. So I think that program really worked well, very well, in fact. Also, the station one, that was great, too, to just get people out of the street and to have them. We even played photographer sometimes for people as well. As far as the truck and trailer, it ran really, really well. I started driving and doing most of the deliveries and that was kind of a fun thing to learn, but it continues, we continue to grow and tweak things and figure out new loading systems as well. So I think, Yeah, we're up for next year for sure.
01:43:22.27 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) You know, so I never came back after my one.
01:43:24.02 Johnny Scopazzi time doing it.
01:43:24.60 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
01:43:24.83 Unknown Thank you.
01:43:24.95 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
01:43:24.97 Unknown I'll just, I'll just,
01:43:28.16 Johnny Scopazzi The comment about Lisa driving the truck started last year when I said, you've got to start learning how to drive this thing. And she started driving just the truck. And I said, let's just throw the trailer on behind and see how you do. So the highlight of my year was the fact that I got very little drive time this year. And next year, I'm going to get even less drive time because she's going to be driving a lot more, which is perfect for me. I can go out and run around and do my thing.
01:43:52.42 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
01:43:52.74 Unknown Thank you.
01:43:52.76 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) .
01:43:53.18 Unknown Thank you.
01:43:53.23 Johnny Scopazzi Thank you.

Good job.
01:43:55.07 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you. Any questions for either of those?

Collette, thank you guys. We're gonna take your confirmation that you're I love it when I see Colette, Lisa, and Lieutenant Gregory all talking. I know good things are happening and new ideas are coming forth.
01:44:13.01 Colette Martinez THE END OF THE END OF THE
01:44:13.38 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Hey, so give us a quick
01:44:16.69 Colette Martinez We had a lot more signage this year, and what we did is the signage was going on the ground. And that's the trend now that people are not looking up, you know, so they're looking on the ground. So we had actually the bridge engineering came over, and we had a congestion person from the district. And so that helps. So we're trying to get more of the green, we need bikes.

a bike only, that really helped a little bit.

And also, it sounds silly, but the way we were loading and offloading right at the gate, right at the plaza, it helped our commuters because, of course, we're worried about our commuters. So it kept the people on the fence line, and then the commuters are coming off between the onboarding and the bike lane. Because the commuters coming off, it's just very disruptive, especially if we're not staffed. So that was really helpful this year, and it was a lot of paint on the ground. So we really helped. I think that helped. It got off faster, and that's why we were loading more bikes. We also have, when we had a second boat on Saturdays and Sundays, we were going to that second gate over at the ferry building, which is the same deck loading so it goes very fast and we were taking hardly any foot traffic so that means that we could block We're putting bikes into the seating area and putting anybody up to sit upstairs, all the bikes are on the downstairs.

That helped. There was one we hit our maximum this year, 230 bikes on one boat. So you get the right crew, we've got five guys, and they're packing it just right, and people are...
01:45:47.27 Unknown Wow.
01:45:47.78 Unknown Thank you.
01:45:54.85 Colette Martinez of participating.

Thank you.

And that was super, super helpful. Then we could put the 500-foot traffic on the other boat going on to another gate. So really helpful.
01:46:05.20 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Okay.

Great.
01:46:07.19 Colette Martinez Great. Thank you very much. Thank you. We have a quick question.
01:46:08.06 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you. We have a quick question for you, Cliff.
01:46:09.82 Councilmember Just a sort of related question. What's going on with the San Francisco side ferry landing improvement project, and when is that going to happen?
01:46:19.20 Colette Martinez at the Ferry Building.
01:46:20.03 Councilmember Yeah.
01:46:21.04 Colette Martinez It has to happen after the Sausalito
01:46:23.98 Councilmember Okay.

Thank you.

All right, so it's our project first. Then that one. All right. Okay, thank you.
01:46:27.51 Colette Martinez All right.

Thank you.
01:46:29.21 Councilmember Thank you.
01:46:29.87 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you. Any other public comment? Seeing none, close public comment. Anybody have any?

Thank you.

Comments?
01:46:41.39 Councilmember I mean, I'll just echo what all of our questions and your comments, Mr. Mayor, sort of implied, which is kudos to our bicycle return program, kudos to our police department, kudos to really all of the city staff for taking what was a gargantuan problem.

In 2010, and today it just is a smooth oiled machine that works so well. So, and we're of course very grateful to the Scopazes, but also to all of our partners that Stacy put up on the board at the beginning of the presentation, who really collaborated together to make this work. So job well done, thank you.

Thank you.
01:47:17.37 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) Thank you.
01:47:17.42 Councilmember Thank you.
01:47:17.47 Unknown Thank you.
01:47:19.80 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) I also want to say thank you. It's amazing how far we have come in a short amount of time.

Lieutenant, for you to give a presentation and just say no issues, no issues, no issues is tremendous. And I also think this ties into our prior conversation about emissions. I certainly hope we find more bikes in our town in the future.

And we're more creative about how we deal with those bikes and encourage more people to be using bikes. I love the fact that by organizing bikes better and getting more on boats, we're having fewer boats, which means less emissions as well. So I'm just very encouraged and I thank everyone for their creativity. Taking over the ferry queuing, that's something we want to do for a long time. It seems like you took it on and did an excellent job. So thank you everybody.
01:48:15.20 Councilmember Withee I've really got nothing to add. Johnny, Lisa, thanks a lot. You're real servants to our community.

You know, I've been watching this since 2013.

Actually when Darryl Herbie started the whole thing actually in terms of parking for free. And then it evolved and it's, I think Lieutenant Gregor is right. We've benefited from the fact there's been lower volume, but we've also benefited benefited from the fact, and you can absolutely see it in this presentation, of the power of getting people to collaborate to get the same job done. And it just shows, so well done everybody.
01:49:02.69 Unknown Thank you.
01:49:08.43 Unknown Yeah.
01:49:10.53 Councilmember I'll echo everything and I won't add anything. But yeah, thank you.
01:49:16.04 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.

I want to thank the taxi drivers in the room. I think that these three, I know that you collaborated as well. And I know that there's been sticky times. I see you come together. You're out there now as solutions and working with Stacy and the group. So thank you as well.

Did you want to, we've already closed it, but really quickly, if you want to just, yeah, really fast.

And Yeah.
01:49:46.63 Unknown I'm sorry.

Thanks for that. Just very quickly, I just wanna say we are, of the South Florida Taxi Coalition, and we are part of the community, and also participating in the community of ownership as a taxi driver, There was a time we felt like unwelcome in South Salvador because of unfat treatment. But since we started working with the police department, the outcome is different. We worked together as a group.

a community now, and we have the pilot program which is working great so far. And on that note, we would like to thank the Chief of Police and Lieutenant Stacy Gregory for their intellectual maturity to understand that it takes all of us for a better community, that we are part of the solution and not of the problem. And moving forward, we will be working with the police department to have a better circulation to unfold all the traffic consumption in the downtown South Salido.

and we are open to all suggestions. Doesn't mean that we do not want to obey by rules, We appreciate now that we are more treated with respect and dignity as a member of the community.
01:51:35.91 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) That's all, thank you. Appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you all. And final, I'll just say thank you for our council pushing this over the last few years, for staff taking it to the level it is, for our vendors, all the collaborators out there that makes this work. This is a huge item off our plate. So much so that I'm going to push one more time in 2020 that we really start supplanting the word congestion, where circulation, this is now a completely a circulation program.

And, uh, I really appreciate all your work. Thank you.
01:52:04.57 Councilmember All right, Mr. Mayor, I move we receive and file the 2019 Circulation Management End of Season Report and adopt a resolution of the City Council of the City of Sausalito approving the second amendment to the bicycle congestion management agreement with Sausalito bike return.
01:52:17.63 Councilmember Second.
01:52:18.66 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) All in favor? Aye. That passes five to zero.
01:52:19.65 Councilmember Bye.
01:52:19.84 Councilmember Bye.
01:52:19.85 Councilmember Bye.
01:52:19.87 Councilmember Thank you.
01:52:24.31 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Good job. All right.

6C.

receive and file the BCDC and Waterfront Management Plan update.

I'm going to call on Councilmember Joan Cox to kick us off.

And who's going to call on the chief?
01:52:44.12 Councilmember Yeah, I think the Chief will kick us off and I'll add a couple of tidbits towards the end.
01:52:58.52 Unknown Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of the council.

Thank you.

So, John Robacher, your Chief of Police.

It was last year in September and our story continues. So I'm just going to sort of pick up where we left off. We were last at the meeting here in order to get your feedback and approval for our meeting the following day in San Francisco with BCDC. And it was a lively meeting and our efforts were well received by the enforcement committee, BCDC. And so we left feeling pretty good about what we were doing and our mission was to just keep on that same path and continue to work on the few vessels that were left but also focus some of our efforts now on our safe harbor program.

So that's where we left off and then we were, pleased to be invited to a meeting with BCDC last week. And when we received the initial invitation, they said that we were welcome to come to meet with them, give them an update about our efforts, so that they, the enforcement staff, could then present to the enforcement committee. So we were then prepared just to do that and then show up at the meeting which is scheduled for tomorrow merely as observers and not participants. So we were pleasantly surprised at the meeting last week on Tuesday to be invited to again present tomorrow. And we look at that as an opportunity to again, you know, show them what we're doing and seek their support for several things that we're working on going forward.

A couple of small logistical challenges was that as we left the meeting on Tuesday last week, we knew that in order to get before you tonight, we had to get something on the agenda as a placeholder by Wednesday, which is our staff deadline to have things ready for you. So I put together a pretty quick Probably just a wrong one, really.

You see one slide and I'm already off the line.

It's fine.
01:55:30.14 Unknown Okay, so we have a few topics for tonight, but Council Member Cox and I are going to double-team this with you and do a little bit of each. So I just did the staff report that just introduced, frankly, what was the agenda for last week's meeting that Council Member Riley and Council Member Cox, the city manager, and Captain Frost and I attended, and then we received the agenda for tomorrow. So those are all that was contained in your initial package for tonight. But in general, we want to talk about these things as it relates to tomorrow.

So in preparation for tomorrow's meeting, we did, again, another survey. Sage and Mike, our survey team, went out over the weekend and confirmed our already low numbers, but we're always looking for something that might crop up that's new. Remember, too, one of the tenets of our strong enforcement efforts are that no new boats may come into Saucyuta water. It's the only way we're gonna continue to be successful. And so we are, and this is just Sage talking about that we had, this is now our 26th survey, since we started doing surveys in July of 2017. So we have a lot of really good data, hard data, verifiable data, all done with GIS technology. So I left this in for a reason, because it just includes the little tweak in there about dinghies.

because on one hand, whether we count them or don't count them, depending what they are, sometimes has a little bit of effect on what our count is. And so our counts are so low now, A new dinghy is actually like bigger percentage of the remaining few boats, but we want to be fair and count the same way the whole time So we still account so for somebody else just put an extra dinghy on their boat It makes it look like we actually have one more anchored boat, but in reality it's not.

So this is our good news. You know, that line just keeps going down, and now we're sort of leveled out.

but I think that's a good question.

and I said before, every boat that's left has a story, whether it's going to be one of our already acknowledged legacy anchor outs or whether it's going to be a candidate for, the Safe Harbor Program, or the remaining two or three that are gonna be given their notice to leave the waters. And so that's where we're at.

The good news here is that in the last two surveys, no new boats, and the one that was here in September, I believe I reported in September that we impounded that boat and took it away for storage so that the owner could come and claim it if they chose to, but not bring it back into South Sea to water.

So we like doing this even though we know now that the numbers are pretty small. We like to verify that this is cruising along just like we hope.

So we are also using a particular software product called First Two. I used this same slide in September. It's a pretty graphic illustration of Richardson Bay and the vessels out there. So the blue ones are us, the green ones are the county waters, And the yellow ones are Belvedere waters. And which of all of those, the surprise for the city or town of Belvedere was that they had votes in their jurisdiction. But the.

Town limits are our city limits of Bellevue are rather large and extend way out into the water and so I They, of course, have to work on that themselves. So that's just an illustration of what that looks like.

So included in my presentation is just a couple of pictures, I think just six. So we had a significant windstorm just about the same time. We were also working through our power, public safety power shutoff on a Sunday, relatively catastrophic. There was approximately 20 boats that broke loose out in the anchorage and a couple actually in Sauciuto water. And this particular time, the,
01:59:37.36 Unknown on that.

real estate.
01:59:52.00 Unknown the wind actually was going the opposite way that it usually goes, so instead of having Boats break loose and head over to Belvedere, they came to Sausalito. And they wreaked havoc over here. This one in particular shows this boat, wherever it came from out of the Anchorage, smashing into our patrol boat. So it took the patrol boat out of commission on the morning that we needed it the most, much to our unhappiness. A lot of people from the Army Corps went to work, according with our crew, to get that boat off of our boat.

And it's also up on the jet dock, which our boat rests on to keep it out of the water. Fortunately, our boat was not damaged, but it's clearly not that simple just to push it off, because you'll see from a couple of the other pictures that the boat was not damaged, water was was pretty turbulent there was a lot of white water I know Councilman Cox was out there watching a lot of this happen and that's the Allied Mariner out there in the background from Parker dive trying to help pull that one boat away from our boat so we could get underway and help with efforts for the day another picture of a similar And that turbulent water is not just prop wash. That's actually how awful it was. If the pictures you look across over to Belvedere, you can see a lot of white caps. It was pretty significant.

to the point that the small boat that RBRA users couldn't launch would have been unsafe and impossible to steer.

The Ally Mariner actually ended up with some mechanical trouble. The Silverman Fireboat, the new boat, also ran into some trouble with some debris in its jet intakes or something like that. You know, I'm not that much of a mariner. But so everything was challenged that day to make some difference. This is one of the boats from our water that came in right against the rocks right there at Army Corps and was brought off the rocks and then, again, there's a little picture of it from a different point of view, but it was brought off there and taken right outside, tied to the Army Corps, I'm, and then they were able to eventually put it back. So there was quite a bit that happened that day And I use it to illustrate that.

while we are enjoying some success in our water through a consistent enforcement effort, the rest of our partners in Richardson Bay aren't quite so involved as we are, and having that many boats break loose and come to our shores is not really good news for us. And so while we may be enjoying some success, we still are hoping that the RBRA and the jurisdictions that make up RBRA will you know, embrace more enforcement effort to try and clear some of that so that we don't have this impact on us again. So we continue to have a strong vested interest in what happens out on the water outside of our own, you know, really small sliver of water in Richardson Bay.

So with that, I actually put a handoff to Council Member Cox.
02:03:11.31 Councilmember Thank you. So at our meeting with BCDC last week, they asked some specific questions of us. They wanted to know what have we accomplished between September and now, but they also wanted us to speak more clearly about the challenges to Sausalito arising from all of the boats in Richardson Bay.

And so I have, What I've done is we are simply revamping the presentation that we utilized in September, but we have added, I have five slides, which I have edited. These are not all brand new. I've edited some of these slides to address some of the specific questions asked by RBRA. So the first, and I guess the header is missing for some reason, but okay, there we go. So this is a new slide, and it's simply they wanted to hear more about our Safe Harbor Program. As we are proud to report that our first anchor out is now in a slip. And we have vetted four other anchor outs and are coordinating slips at marinas for them. That's our start between now and then they want to know what we want to do between now and next April. So between now and next April, we hope to house eight anchor outs, which is the extent of the pilot program approved by the city council, we hope to identify long term funding for our safe harbor program and commenced the process of transitioning folks from the Safe Harbor program into more permanent housing, whether it's a liveaboard slip or land-based housing.

And then they asked us to talk about our interactions with RBRA. So you've already seen this. Sausalito's waterfront management program has a proven track record of success. With a single harbor master, RBRA may benefit from collaborating with Sausalito or even having Sausalito take over enforcement efforts for Richardson Bay. And that's really the new concept that I wanted to bring up with the city council is because we have such a track record of success, if we were able to enter into some sort of MOU with RBRA, whereby they would transfer their grant money and the monies that they've collected from their members for enforcement efforts to us, We would continue to collaborate with the Sheriff's Office and with our BRA to assist them in removing marine debris and unoccupied storage boats from Richardson Bay. And the reason that's important to Sausalito, of course, is because Sausalito is the only point of shore access for all of these boats, which now number, according to Beth Pollard's report to her staff, at least 175 boats out in Richardson Bay.

So what I'd like to be able to say to BCDC is that with an appropriate cost sharing approach, SOS leader would be willing to explore undertaking a greater role in enforcement, but I'm seeking counsel. A greater role or complete role? A greater role or a complete role. I don't know what we might ultimately be able to negotiate. RBRA may be somewhat resistant, but BCDC expressed to us their intention to write a letter to all of the board members of RBRA, requiring them to demonstrate some success in their enforcement program.

which they've so far been unable to do.
02:06:45.46 Councilmember So I don't know if this is the right time to talk about this particular issue, but it seems to me that with our staff, and maybe this is a question for the chief, that we would need to take on more people to even make this feasible, is that correct?
02:07:02.64 Unknown It doesn't necessarily require adding more people. This council already had authorized us when we took over managing our own water to already add some part-time people to help us. And we had one person's name, Terry Moran. He helped us for a couple of months, but his primary job took him to travels back east to do where his primary work was. And so we were looking ever since then for another person to step in and help us. And we did find another person. He's been in a law enforcement background. He's a retired high patrol officer who wants to join our wing patrol program and he's probably like literally days away from being brought on an hourly basis to work for us. He's got a significant background and a Coast Guard licensing to operate much larger vessels than our own. And so, I think we're gonna be okay with that. Council Member Cox described that it's really not that we're looking to just take that over. It's simply that, the new harbormaster who by the way is really trying very hard Curtis Havill to do a good job.

but he's just one person. And the amount of boats is frankly almost overwhelming.

And, you know, their board, the RBRA board, did several months ago pass some strengthening, you know, strengthen their ordinances to have the 72-hour notice and removal. And he's been trying very hard to enforce that. And we've been helping him, actually, and working with him.

But again, he's one person, he really outnumbered by the people coming in.
02:08:58.81 Unknown in.
02:08:59.46 Unknown You know, so it's not really great to be doing all that work and as fast as you could take boats away Have boats just replace them and so we had offered originally when The harbormaster retired when Bill Price retired not knowing that they would have someone in quite so quickly we reached out in good faith and just said until you bring someone else on and We are offering the resources of the Saucyuta Police Department to help you stem that tie. Because once people knew that there would be nobody from RBRA doing any work at all, they could expect a pretty big flood of people coming in.

They never did take us up on the offer. They did say thank you and appreciate it, but they had hired Curtis in a very short amount of time. So that didn't happen. But our offer, frankly, still stands. I believe that it's doable. It's in our best interest as well for some of the reasons demonstrated by those photographs. So we have a ways to go to get there. I'm not looking to spend a lot of city money on it, frankly, because the RVRA has its own grant funds that we would use to take care of their boats. So, but I think it's just something to help take that strongly, take the edge off of what the Harbor Master is trying to do. But all by himself, it's going to be really, really hard.
02:10:23.10 Councilmember And then we were periodically meeting with RBRA once a month or so. But we haven't been able to meet with them since April.

And we are concerned that we have to continue to meet with them and collaborate with them in order to have success.

We finally, yesterday, received some dates and we hope to meet with them the first week in December.
02:10:47.94 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Sounds like we've had our most success since we stopped meeting with, really, since April?
02:10:55.06 Councilmember Well, It is success in our waters, but the burden on us has been exacerbated. So we had 20 boats wash up on our shore during this wind event. Galilee Harbor has sought to close down its public dock because it is suffering so much from the 175 or the 100 occupied boats in Richardson Bay. And so while we've had success in our waters, there's been just the opposite direction in Richardson Bay. Yeah. And we need to collaborate.

to manage the entire body of water, not just Sausalito waters.
02:11:31.91 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) I'm not sure if If I heard Susan's question completely answered in that, if there's extra money available and extra tasks to help somebody who's overwhelmed.

Would we use that money to offset our staffing or where would that money go then? If they have money, wouldn't we take that on as a way to spend more on, to help out Curtis?
02:12:00.36 Unknown Well, I think that we are really in the beginning talking stages, but they're great questions that we've already had one week to talk about in some detail. But the large cost involved is the disposal of the boats, and RBR has its own grant funds to do that. You know, we would really take a close look at how much of our time would be required to help them and then how might we get compensated for our time based on who it is, you know, that's doing some of the work. We're just seeking some of your feedback before we even mention anything to BCTC tomorrow because if it's a non-starter, you know, then we are, you know, just trying to do our best to look at solutions that are a little bit unusual.
02:12:00.78 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) that we are
02:12:45.65 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Yeah, I thought we kind of were helping out. So I'm trying to draw the line between where we have been collaborating, where we're going to put our resources, where it's going to be a cost of our resources.
02:12:54.11 Councilmember of our resources.

Mr. May I think if we just go back to slide two, it's the last bullet I think that Joan was seeking input on. With an appropriate cost sharing approach, Sausalito would be willing to explore undertaking a greater role in enforcement.
02:12:55.46 Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles Mr. Mayor.
02:12:55.73 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Exactly.
02:13:09.25 Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles I just think it's important to clarify the money, so when we left RVRA, Um, When we left RBRA, we, We left with $125,000 that we were contributing to the RBRA fund to fund bill price and the efforts of RBRA to manage the waters. So that's how we started our program. Then the police department applied for the same grant funds that RBRA was applying to to help impound and destroy vessels as we impounded them. So there's roughly a half a million dollars that RBA has that they utilize to fund their enforcement program. So it's not just enhancing. So we teamed up, so we used our $125,000, their money. We worked collaboratively, especially at the beginning, and had a lot of success. And then we continue to use our funds, including the grants. But to go out into the Marin County's waters, I mean, we have to sit down with them, have to sit down with BCDC.

develop the objectives, make sure that it's something we can accomplish, and looking at those objectives, what are the costs? Because to go out more regularly out in the Marine County waters to try to put a stop to the backfill, which is the biggest problem, that's going to take consistent resources. Can we do it with part-time dollars, which is what mostly we've been doing, and then overtime dollars or as available, officers available to go out on the waters? Maybe. But we've got to kind of look at what are our objectives, what are the milestones that we're trying to meet. And again, over 18 months, two and a half years, or two years, we were able to reduce 90 vessels down to 15. Now 176, 200 vessels in that neighborhood. How quickly can we move through there? Part of it is on stopping the backfill. How do we do that? And we'd have to work through the objectives. So we'd be looking to RBA to help if we took on a bigger role, a greater role than we look at using the resources that RBA collects from Mill Valley, Tiburon, Belvedere, and the county to help offset our costs.
02:15:16.84 Councilmember Importantly, the point we made in our presentation in September that you all saw and that remains in the presentation is that we're taking a compassionate approach. We are providing mobile showers. We have our safe harbor program to bring those anchor outs who want to come off the water into slips. And we are not evicting any legacy anchor outs from the water. We're simply preventing new boats from mooring and we are abating marine debris and unoccupied storage boats. And so those are the priorities just as they are in Sausalito. And so we're A, complying with the MACRAS-PETRAS Act and the enforcement recommendations from BCDC, but we're doing it in a compassionate and thoughtful manner.

You can go on search.

and then you can go on.

So the last thing is that at our last meeting with BCDC, we saw for the first time the.

results of the mooring field feasibility study that Sausalito helped to fund. And what it showed is that the most feasible locations for moorings are in Sausalito waters and in Belvedere waters, deep waters. At the last RBRA meeting on November 14, anchor outs pointed out to RBRA that both of those locations could endanger the lives of inexperienced anchor out occupants due to rough waves during the winter months. And so we continue, I believe, And also we have said before that any moorings in RBI waters should undergo sequoanalysis including their impacts on Sausalito.

The point I'm making is that a mooring field, needs more study, RBRA postponed its decision on a mooring field plan officially at its November 14 meeting. And so that may not be the most expeditious enforcement tool, rather the enforcement tools we've been demonstrating success with are probably more effective.
02:17:24.14 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) I WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

Some anchor outs.

I'm going to speak both here and I thought the Chief had said that it's more danger for them to be further out in county waters than in Sausalito waters based on the distance of travel during storms. So now we're hearing that it's more dangerous to be in Sausalito waters?
02:17:38.59 Councilmember No, it's not in all Sausalito waters, but the Sausalito water locations identified as ecologically feasible in the mooring study are those on the south end of Sausalito, the deeper waters, which are much more rough.

No, if they could stay in Sausalito waters closer to shore, that would be safer, but it's not ecologically feasible because of the eelgrass.

So, and I'm not even weighing in on whether ultimately that's a good tool. I think it may be a good tool once we get the problem under control. But it's not the most expeditious enforcement tool. That's the point of this. And I think that's the last slide, Serge, right?

So you already saw these requests, clarity regarding enforcement of BCDC policies, support Sausalito's existing plan.

And increase Sausalito's liveaboard allocation. Those were all part of the September presentation. The last two bullets on this slide are new. So they asked us how long will it take if we were to try to help all 100 people living on Richardson Bay? So we said it takes six to 18 months per person, and there may be up to 100 people. The length of time the overall program may take will depend on the number of slips we're able to identify. Hence our request to increase liveaboard slips from 10 to 15%, which makes more slips available. And marinas, if we're able to demonstrate success with the pilot program, may be willing to increase the number of slips available for this safe harbor program.
02:19:12.58 Councilmember So can I ask a question about that? So is 15% really where we wanna be with I mean, it seems low compared to the potential number of people.

Thank you.
02:19:26.33 Councilmember the
02:19:26.56 Councilmember THE END OF THE END OF THE
02:19:26.76 Councilmember .
02:19:26.81 Councilmember We'll be right back.
02:19:26.88 Councilmember we'll not likely even get 15%. It's the highest ask we can possibly make of BCDC because there and we can only do it as part of an enforcement approach, not as part of a housing solution because BCDC takes the position that the MACRAS Petrus Act is all about preserving the recreational use of the bay, not about creating housing.

Even going to 15% is a big ask, but we were encouraged to make the ask.
02:20:01.45 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) I might share just on that. I think the rough math is with 2,000 slips, 5% gives you 100 potential future homes, which almost maps to the number of live reports.
02:20:18.95 Councilmember Okay.
02:20:19.96 Sandra Bushmaker become owner.
02:20:20.84 Councilmember Thank you.
02:20:22.76 Sandra Bushmaker Questions?
02:20:23.51 Councilmember Thank you.
02:20:23.73 Sandra Bushmaker Thank you.
02:20:23.81 Councilmember Thank you.
02:20:26.14 Councilmember Withee So Chief, thank you. Thank you, Council Member Cox.

If you...

To go back a couple years when we started our enforcement activities, we had our tiered approach. Initially marine debris and et cetera, et cetera, going down.

And I think we've gone down to a clear status of what is essentially occupied boats that are permanently occupied in our waters, I presume now. This is where we're at.

If we now go back and think a couple of years ago when we started, what is the state of play in county waters? Do we have any idea how much marine debris is out there in county waters? How much would be, so where would, if we were going to start, where, or If RBRA is going to start now really enforcing, what are they facing? What sort of, where's the status? I know we know number of boats, but what would be the mix of those tiered approaches? Does that?
02:21:35.23 Unknown Sure. So I think that their most success would be achieved in the same way it was for us. It's a combination of looking at the marine debris vessels and those that are no longer either registered or documented and taking action on those. We purposely reserved our last efforts for the few remaining boats that had people on them.

That's why we came back to council for a modification of even our own plan saying that We were going to end up with maybe five people at the end of this That are legacy anchor outs that were simply leaving them alone. We just asked you for your endorsement of doing that.

to relieve the anxiety that they were under that they were going to be removed, where we really had no intention of doing that. So why not just say it?

And so that's what we did with your approval, and that's made a big difference for us. So out there, they have roughly, let's say, 175 boats, just making that number pretty realistic. And at least 100 of them or so are occupied. So that's a big challenge. But...

So the ones that are not are frankly a lot easier because either they're there too long and they're just simply using the water for storage, like we're experiencing a few remaining boats like that, Thank you.

or their marine debris, then there will always be a few boats, a small percentage of them, that are, frankly, marine debris and they're occupied. And that'll be a challenge because making people leave their boat, marine debris or not, is not something that we look forward to doing without a solution about where to put them.

But however, we don't want the boat to sink and have them drown.

so it's one of those kind of things that presents challenge so we would probably look at them and you know the same type of thing. And in fact, I believe that's actually what, the new harbor master is trying to do It's just he simply has too many.

and it's a lot of water to cover visually and physically with one person patrolling and so He could take four or five boats a day, but more could come in and how would he know?

because it's only one person doing all that work. It's a little tough.

And the problem is rather large and so if it was reduced, And leaving the occupied boats alone There's no other whole topic, but just going after the ones that are not.

would make a visual difference and make it far easier to see when other boats came in because it'd be far more obvious. As you can see even from my slide with our software that has the colored dots on it, that's a lot of boats.

And unless you're out there doing the GIS work to mark each and every one of them, you can hardly appreciate really the little jam of boats that it is in that water.
02:24:29.51 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Other questions?

Seeing that, I'm going to open up public comment. Is there anybody who would like to speak on this? Fill out a card, come on up. We know who you are. Come on up.

We got you.
02:24:46.17 Sandra Bushmaker Sandra Bushmaker, I'm also a sailor. I just, in a dock.

Just want to add that. Have we shared or can we share our software program with RBRA? Has that been discussed?
02:25:00.93 Councilmember We have, I'll let the chief answer.
02:25:04.02 Unknown you So it's actually two parts of that question, Sandra.

It's the data that's the most important. So we're already sharing our data. We were sharing the data of just ours when we first started. And then out of not merely the goodness of our hearts, but also to help them with understanding the complex nature of their water. We, the city of Sausalito, used our GIS team to do surveys on all of Richardson Bay.

not just our water. And we've done that at least twice, reported that back to you so that, again, they could have a good tool to work with. And then as a result of that, they actually hired Sage on two occasions of their own, paying her to go out and do that because they saw the need for having good data. And so the product that I showed up there on the map, Behind each of those dots when you click it, I think I did another display.

opens up a picture of each boat and a significant amount of data for each boat. And we share all that with everybody that's a partner in Richardson Bay. So all the law enforcement agencies have that, and all they have to do is click on it, and it's right there for them.
02:26:22.78 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.

Any other public comment?

Seeing none, we'll close public comment, and we're going to appear for giving these people what they want.
02:26:33.27 Councilmember So I have some feedback on slide two. I'm comfortable, can you just go back to slide two, Serge, I know it's a little. At the bottom, yeah. So I'm comfortable with the, given the Chief's answer that we aren't going to be taking on additional staff and perhaps pension liability, etc. That this is something, the statement seems reasonable to offer at this point? I mean, it seems like we'll have other discussions down the road if there's progress on those.
02:27:07.58 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Can I talk about that? Because I have that item, too, and...

I was hoping that it would be all or nothing.

And I would like to take it all completely.

I think- So would I. Part of the issue is you have-
02:27:19.83 Unknown you have.

Bye.
02:27:20.61 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
02:27:20.62 Unknown Bye.
02:27:20.64 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Two.
02:27:21.10 Unknown SHOCKING.
02:27:25.06 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) I don't know if we have the proper economy of scale if you have two different agencies trying to do this. If we take money from our BRA, that means we're leaving less money for our BRA to do something they can't do right now with the money.

So we're hurting the economy of scale and efficiency on their side even further for something that they failed to do. To me it becomes all, we just completely take it over, or we continue just doing our water, but if we piecemeal their water, They just become less effective and we don't have the funds to do it.
02:27:52.06 Councilmember I think it's a management issue for the chief and the RBRA. I mean, it seems like they could potentially collaborate.
02:27:58.41 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) I was hoping they would.

Thank you.
02:28:00.20 Councilmember In which case, they can work together if, The chief determines it's not possible to work collaboratively with our BRA, maybe we do offer that.

I mean, I don't feel like that's a decision I would want to make.
02:28:13.39 Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles I just think it's a conversation again about consolidation. So you have an executive director with a salary and you have a harbormaster with a salary. So that $500,000, a big chunk of that is basically on two,
02:28:13.49 Councilmember Thank you.
02:28:26.30 Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles you know, two employees of RBRA.

So that's also the economy of scales, just like consolidation is.

reducing the management and getting down to the folks doing the actual work out in the water.
02:28:40.27 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) Thank you.
02:28:40.29 Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles Thank you.
02:28:42.92 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) I would like to comment.

End point is I support Councilmember Cox's presentation and your request. And I think it's important.

I also see is all or none, but if you step back, our police force and wonderful work has done over the past few years is put in place not only the policies, But the processes from marine debris all the way to legacy anchor outs.

And then complemented with the Safe Harbor Program. And I think that complex thing, if we were just to wait for another organization to develop all that, could take many years. Even if the minimum we provide that, is help.

And then of course if we can do the enforcement with it, I think it's a great outcome. And I think Council Member Cox is a great presenter for our vision.
02:29:42.36 Councilmember Withee Could you go to the next slide, including
02:29:44.87 Councilmember Yeah, I have some comments on slide three too.
02:29:48.64 Councilmember Withee There, yeah.

I mean, to me, Uh...

And I don't know if this was deliberate.

But the title of that slide and then what follows seem to be a bit of a disconnect, don't they?

And I don't know if that was your intention, but.
02:30:08.04 Councilmember It is mine.

Thank you.
02:30:08.72 Councilmember Withee Thank you.
02:30:08.73 Councilmember Thank you.
02:30:08.93 Councilmember Withee Okay.
02:30:09.34 Councilmember Because we have to collaborate and BCDC asked us about that status. So that's one of, we're answering one of them.
02:30:17.29 Councilmember Withee I understand it's vital, but it's not based on
02:30:23.09 Councilmember And nonexistent right now.
02:30:23.11 Councilmember Withee And nonexistent right now. Five bullet points, it's not very ongoing and it's not much of a collaboration, right?
02:30:28.73 Councilmember THE END OF THE END OF THE
02:30:28.90 Councilmember Withee Thank you.
02:30:29.49 Councilmember THAT'S THE CHALLENGE.
02:30:29.64 Councilmember Withee That's the challenge. Yeah, and so I think they're really My senses were approaching the time where we've got to sort of make this decision, but, you know, we've got to have a good, we've got to have a willing player in RBRA.

I haven't seen that.

So...
02:30:52.49 Councilmember Well personally, I mean this all may be true. I mean for myself, I would not want to make this slide about another agency. I would want to frame the slide in a positive way about what Sausalito is doing and let BCDC ask the questions.
02:30:52.51 Councilmember Withee Well, personally,
02:31:07.27 Councilmember either orally or ask the questions of RBRA. I mean to sort of, I would rephrase Um...

I would not include bullet one. I would not include bullet two. That's completely within, that's our BRA's own internal or three, I mean, I would start with number one, I mean, number four.

and five and anything else that we would like as outcomes. I mean, I just, I think this is too...

I would not feel comfortable saying these things in this way to a public agency or another public agency.
02:31:47.17 Councilmember Yeah.

Yeah.

So I actually had bullet one in the September presentation and the executive director of RBRA called me.
02:31:51.03 Councilmember I-
02:31:58.94 Councilmember the morning of the presentation and asked me to remove it.

which I did, And yet now, two months later, we still have had no response to our offer of assistance. And so it really is, is rising to the level of intent and not inadvertent.

inadvertency and bcdc did ask us about this i'm happy to offer some of this information verbally and not have it as a slide so i'll just ask them to ask me the question i'm happy to remove
02:32:34.01 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) Council Member Cox, may I just offer a suggestion and you present this wonderfully. Maybe we just have a chart of what ideal collaboration would look like and you can just voice over and say it hasn't been the case. But we should be sharing the same software, we should be sharing the same policies and processes. We should be sharing a number of things. We should be having regular
02:32:44.98 Unknown Mm-hmm.
02:32:54.50 Unknown MAKING A LITTLE BIT.
02:32:58.78 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) It counts, right? Regular meetings.
02:32:58.82 Unknown It counts.

Regular meetings.

Thank you.
02:33:01.57 Councilmember Thank you.
02:33:02.06 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) And then, Thank you.

you can voice over and say, this has not been the case today.
02:33:05.75 Councilmember Yeah, I would like that idea a lot. I like that idea a lot too. Articulate our positive vision of what collaboration looks like.
02:33:07.84 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) I like that idea a lot too.
02:33:12.00 Councilmember Yeah.

And then you can note verbally that that's not we're not there yet and what steps we have taken great i like that thanks
02:33:14.53 Councilmember verbally that we're not there yet.
02:33:23.71 Unknown I'd like to just add one thing. It's important to note that when things get a little hectic, which like they did on the 27th of October, everybody that's out there works together really well. It's just part of what happens. And you would be pleased to see that. And so whether they're the sheriff's deputies, the associate officers, or Curtis Havel from the Arbya Harper master, everybody's doing something to help everybody else out.

And on that particular day, I personally received thank you messages from Beth Pollard, the Executive Director for RBRA, and from Curtis thanking us for all the help, especially for Mike McKinley's help, because Mike got on the RBRA boat with Curtis to help him, because if he's just the one person on the boat, and somebody's got to drive the boat.

especially in that kind of weather which I showed, then you really can't do much else without some help.

And so when things get like that, This part that we're all discussing right now is one step less important. You just need to know that when things happen Everybody that's out there that has a job like this is going to help each other out because it's almost like that law of the sea type thing that people help each other out when things are going badly.
02:34:44.35 Councilmember So maybe we can add successful mutual aid to our vision of collaboration.
02:34:44.40 Unknown So maybe we can add.
02:34:49.48 Unknown Thank you.
02:34:49.50 Councilmember Yeah.
02:34:49.97 Unknown Thank you.
02:34:50.09 Councilmember Thank you.
02:34:50.16 Unknown Absolutely.
02:34:50.97 Councilmember Thank you.
02:34:51.03 Unknown you
02:34:51.12 Councilmember For sure, and I think we should comment on how much we appreciate. And we have to include the Coast Guard. They were out there with us also.
02:34:57.04 Unknown Absolutely. Yeah. That's narrowing my part of we're looking at Coast Guard. There are 47-foot boats out there. I mean, it's just what people do because, again, and this is all important. I don't want to underestimate that, but I really would like to see nobody drown this year. Yeah. And that's the goal. And so everybody's focused on that as an outcome.

Thank you.

Thank you.
02:35:20.26 Councilmember Thank you.

And then I think, I'm sorry, one more comment on slide four. I mean, I think maybe the title of this slide could be, you know, Sausalito has successfully used other enforcement tools.

Again, framing it in our context as opposed to a negative
02:35:40.23 Lisa Scopazi MAH-HMM.
02:35:40.55 Unknown Thank you.
02:35:40.56 Lisa Scopazi Thank you.
02:35:43.19 Councilmember Thank you.
02:35:43.25 Lisa Scopazi Okay.
02:35:44.33 Councilmember you context.
02:35:49.35 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) up.
02:35:49.83 Councilmember Amen.
02:35:51.28 Councilmember Thanks everybody.
02:35:52.33 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) All right, do we need anything else on this?
02:35:53.57 Councilmember Thank you.

And I'll report back during committee reports on how it goes tomorrow.
02:36:02.09 Councilmember All right.

Thanks.

Thank you.
02:36:07.11 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you, Chief.

Before we do the item on our calendar, I'm going to invite Thomas up. Let's go to 7A. Let's get the building code.
02:36:20.73 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thomas Ahrens for our second reading of an ordinance updating the building code. That's item 7A, just happens to be 925 for us, so we're right on schedule.
02:36:32.07 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) That's the way you do it.
02:36:33.01 Unknown .
02:36:33.70 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) I'm going to do Adam's comments next. Stay on course.
02:36:51.66 Thomas Ahrens Good evening Mayor Burns, council members. This is the second reading for this ordinance. We're doing this a little bit backwards from how we normally do in that this is the public hearing for the item. I'll give a brief background before taking questions or public comment if there is any.

So this is a tri-annual adoption of our building codes for the city of Sausalito. These are basically the California commonly referred to as California Building Codes. They're based on the 2018 International Codes, which are applied more or less universally across the country. These are updated every three years in this particular 1980 excuse me, 2018 version of the international codes will become effective statewide on January 1st, 2020.

I'm not sure.
02:37:56.68 Thomas Ahrens So the state of California takes the international codes and heavily amends them.

In fact, they almost doubled the volume of the book.

THEIR OWNERS.

Then they basically toss it to local jurisdictions to do any local amendments they wish to do.

In addition to that, and we have six months in which to do that, that's a period between July and January.

Local jurisdictions have to make findings for these amendments, and these findings typically have to be based on topographic, geological, or climatic local conditions.

Of course, the examples of the types of issues we have here are all well known to all of us. We have steep hilly areas, narrow streets, poor access, and we're heavily vegetated.

As far as geologic goes, no surprise here. We're an earthquake country. We're the proximity to San Andreas and both the Hayward Faults. And then climatically, we've experienced recently these PSPS events that are the result of our long periods of dry weather and combined with I westerly winds that create high fire hazards.

So we've been doing this for a lot of years. Most of the amendments that are being carried forward from the previous adoption. However, we have added some new amendments.

that I brought in as the new building official that I've sort of developed over the years. A brief description of those are we will require a posting of a city placard at locations where the building permit has been issued.

Both the neighbors.

mostly the neighbors in the area to know that they have indeed gotten a permit for the work they're doing.

real good tool for the building official or the code enforcement officer as they drive around the city If they see activity, they'll look for that posting card, and then they won't have to stop and trouble the folks.

We added a provision to allow other jurisdictions to provide assistance when needed, sort of a mutual aid for building inspectors, if you will.

We've increased the penalty for performing work without a permit.

when a permit is required.

We provided wording to allow city council to act as an appeals board.

for matters related to the building codes.

We've incorporated recommendations for changes from the fire department regarding fire protection and WUI regulations. Those are in several chapters.

of the building code.

Further restricted the use of wooden retaining walls in critical applications because they just eminently fail And then we've also clarified private swimming pool testing and safety requirements.

Two additional ones that are kind of significant, we also added provisions requiring a building permit for freestanding masonry walls over three feet in height. And we've also required roof coverings in all areas of the city to be ignition-resistant class A coverings only. This effectively eliminates the ability of someone to install a wood roof in the county. This is part of our hardening due to our WUI protections.

So with that I'll wrap up the recommended action tonight is for the council to conduct public hearing, take public comment, adopt the ordinance. And then lastly, due to the length of the ordinance, authorize the publication of a summary only, instead of the full publication of the 48 page ordinance or whatever it is.

So with that, I'll open it up to questions and public comments.
02:41:53.74 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you. We have at least one question.
02:41:57.77 Councilmember Withee Yeah, could you just go back one slide? Yes. Just like a little clarification, fully understand about the free standing masonry walls, and fully understand about the roof coverings. I was a little surprised to see ore fences in there.
02:42:16.25 Councilmember Withee You're not going to let people build a fence over three feet high? Yes. How do you keep deer out? I mean, I'm missing something here, obviously. I'm obviously missing something.
02:42:23.20 Thomas Ahrens I'm missing something here.

Okay, good question then, because I probably didn't state it correctly.

We still have the exemption for fences. Six feet or seven feet? Six feet.
02:42:36.45 Councilmember It's six feet, I think.
02:42:38.12 Thomas Ahrens Six feet in height constructed of anything other than masonry or brick or concrete. And so we put the provision in for these types of offenses because when they fail or fall, it can create a whole lot more
02:42:53.22 Councilmember Withee No, fully understand. Okay. Thank you.
02:42:54.28 Thomas Ahrens Okay.
02:42:58.20 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Any other questions? Yep.
02:43:00.17 Councilmember Yeah, so I just learned about the REACH code and the Sustainability Commission hearing last week. Is that something that you considered and in this building code update?
02:43:00.19 Unknown Thank you.
02:43:08.38 Thomas Ahrens Mm-hmm.
02:43:14.45 Thomas Ahrens Right, I've been professionally looking at the reach codes for several years. So it's not a new concept, they've had it around for quite a while.

My general reaction to that, and I'm happy to take it under advisement, and I'll continue to meet with Alice and that group, Um, to look at those options and I frankly have some interest in bringing some of those elements forward but not all of them.

Um, The background to this is that the Cal Green code as it's published by the state is THE FAMILY.

combined with the California Energy Code is pretty far-reaching and aggressive in its approach. And each year they basically abrogate those requirements and increase the raise the bar if you will as far as energy conservation and green building.

It's a process that takes place in the code writing and it's It's a very collaborative process with both industry experts, code writing experts, as well as state officials.

And my general feeling is that we are We're moving at a good rate of speed as far as increasing the requirements in the green codes and that the reach codes can be a little onerous to apply and in some cases there may not even be sufficient materials or lighting fixtures or energy developed energy conserving equipment that will satisfy those conditions. So they're a little aggressive in some respects and it's certainly something that would require some contemplation.
02:45:07.26 Councilmember Yeah, well in general, we're too late for this particular building code update, but I would really like to see us consider at a minimum incentives to attain the higher standards and perhaps at a maximum require some of the I mean, when somebody remodels at this point in time or does any new substantial construction, that building is going to be with us for the next.

20 to 30 years. And so if we don't take advantage of those opportunities, then we're not going to reach our goals for greenhouse gas and other kinds of reductions. So I just.

I mean, at least to have incentives in our local codes, I think would be helpful. And I think there's varying opinions about whether there are technologies available. I hear there are from many people, and then I hear what you just said, that there aren't.

but I think we at least need to be looking at those and I was just surprised that in this building code update we didn't really get any of those options.
02:46:20.33 Thomas Ahrens Well, I didn't.

Again, I was kind of carrying forward most of the sentiment from the previous adoption. So I would look for direction from counsel on those sort of things. And now I have it.
02:46:31.42 Councilmember but thanks and now I have it. One person's, well, I'm one person of five.
02:46:36.39 Thomas Ahrens And I'd like to add too that there's some great programs. For instance, one of my pet things that I would like to incorporate is A big miss, I think, in most jurisdictions is the ability of apartment owners to have electric cars because they just aren't charging facilities. So to the extent that we have existing apartment buildings, if we can somehow incentivize those apartment owners, for instance, to install electric cars, charging stations in their parking lots for their tenants that would allow apartment owners to Actually purchase rental cars whereas her excuse me electric cars whereas at this point in time they have no practical way to charge them
02:47:16.00 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Isn't this kind of that, getting back to our general plan discussion, this is that commitment that we need to make because Incentivize.
02:47:26.56 Councilmember This is a.
02:47:27.83 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Incentivizations come with expenses and commitment on our part to provide usually some type of subsidizing program.
02:47:36.67 Councilmember I mean, there's expediting, there's you know, waiving some fees. There's...
02:47:43.05 Unknown Yeah, exactly.
02:47:43.69 Councilmember Yeah, and I keep hearing at every presentation that there are,
02:47:47.03 Unknown Which I think is good though.
02:47:51.27 Councilmember There are rebates.
02:47:51.42 Unknown All right.
02:47:53.55 Councilmember There are all these other funding sources for incentives, so it may be cost neutral to the city.

It may not be, but I feel like we should at least be looking at it. Yeah, I do. I mean, we're missing these opportunities.
02:48:04.33 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Yeah. I mean, we're missing these opportunities.
02:48:07.50 Councilmember We're discussing, we're not really questions, they're just comments as well.
02:48:10.89 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) I asked her.
02:48:11.03 Councilmember Yeah.

Thank you.
02:48:11.69 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.

Thank you.
02:48:12.68 Councilmember Thank you.
02:48:12.72 Councilmember Thank you.
02:48:12.75 Councilmember What might I?
02:48:12.93 Councilmember I started out with a question about whether he considered the...
02:48:13.17 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Members of the public.
02:48:14.07 Councilmember about whether.
02:48:16.55 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Yulia has been writing her questions down, so she's going to make.
02:48:16.56 Councilmember Thank you.
02:48:19.65 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Do you have any questions? Yeah, go ahead.
02:48:21.47 Unknown Yeah.

Thank you.
02:48:23.43 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
02:48:23.45 Councilmember Withee Yeah, just a comment on the, oh, were we doing just a question?
02:48:26.33 Unknown Thank you.
02:48:26.35 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) We're still good.
02:48:26.98 Unknown Thank you.
02:48:27.01 Alice Merrill Any more questions?
02:48:27.02 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Any more questions? No more questions. Public comment, close public comment, comment.
02:48:27.73 Councilmember Withee Thank you.
02:48:27.77 Alice Merrill Thank you.
02:48:27.80 Councilmember Withee So,
02:48:27.82 Alice Merrill .
02:48:27.89 Unknown Thank you.
02:48:27.92 Councilmember Withee No more questions.

Thank you.

I last year sat through a very long presentation on the reach code.

I can't remember the venue. I think it was at MCE.

And every city council member ran the table there.

sort of basically said.

way too aggressive right now now i'm here earlier said we need to be very aggressive in need right but um
02:48:59.07 Unknown Thank you.
02:48:59.09 Unknown Yeah.
02:49:02.83 Councilmember Withee This is something that I think The county, I'd be very interested to figure out where the county was, because the county led a big effort and was thinking of actually adopting those codes and then backed off. So I think it's something that we should somehow, and I don't know what the latest in the last year. I've not paid any attention. So I think it's something that moving forward, we need to be asking the question, what parts of this make sense and what parts don't. And I think make it part of the dialogue, which is, I think, a very good point.
02:49:38.15 Unknown Yeah.

Thank you.
02:49:40.03 Councilmember I agree.
02:49:48.11 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) I would just comment, I think we have to adopt this before the end of the year, so that we move forward with that, but I do agree that we have three years to rethink the next time of how we can be more forward thinking, more progressive on having a building code that addresses emission concerns and provides the right incentives. And this could be another area where we can lead other communities. So I think we've got three years to put our heads together.
02:50:21.15 Councilmember I totally agree and we don't have to wait three years if we want to adopt some reach goals. We can simply make a further amendment to our building code. I am concerned about requiring with any renovations.

reach obligations because keep in mind that a lot of renovations are done by our elderly who may have limited income, so new construction certainly.

But renovations I think we have to think carefully about. But we've got time and I appreciate your offer to continue to consider, to see what the county is doing, and to come back to us with some recommendations.
02:51:03.17 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) And most of our new will be affordable.
02:51:05.47 Councilmember Yeah.
02:51:05.80 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Yeah.
02:51:08.92 Unknown Thank you.
02:51:08.94 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
02:51:08.98 Unknown Thank you.
02:51:10.29 Councilmember Withee One last comment is that Nearly many, many of the rebates have affordability components attached to them. And I don't mean affordability of doing it, I mean income. It's that many of the rebates are sort of geared towards more communities in need and lower income communities.
02:51:39.87 Councilmember Yeah, the rebates. Not all, but not all. A lot of the rebates on electrification are two-tiered, so you get $1,000 back for, you know, if you meet an income limit, and you get $450 back or something like that. You know, so I think that every program has its own.
02:51:40.34 Councilmember Withee Put it on the floor.
02:51:57.54 Councilmember kind of tailored things. But there are plenty of programs that aren't income qualified.
02:52:05.07 Thomas Ahrens what it's worth the energy regulations also require commensurate upgrades for your energy conservation even for remodels and relatively small remodels you remodel your kitchen you're going to have to upgrade your lighting to energy efficient lighting and so forth so it's area specific within the area of improvement so again they're trying to get out of it as best they can in base code
02:52:29.49 Unknown All right.
02:52:30.62 Councilmember Thank you.
02:52:30.87 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
02:52:30.89 Unknown Thank you.
02:52:31.97 Councilmember I move we adopt an ordinance of the city of Sausalito amending Title 8 of the municipal codes, specifically revising chapters 8.08, 8.10, 8.12, 8.14, 8.16, 8.18, 8.22, and 8.28, and deleting chapters 8.06, 8.20, 8.24, 8.26, and 8.40 thereof. Adopting local amendments to Title 24 of the California Code of Regulations.

Specifically, the 2019 California Building Code with amendments, 2019 California Residential Code with amendments, 2019 California Electric Code with amendments, 2019 California Mechanical Code with amendments, 2019 California Plumbing Code with amendments, 2019 California Energy Code with amendments, 2019 Existing Building Code with amendments, and the 2018 International Property Maintenance Code with amendments. And a statement of findings related thereto, and that due to the length of the ordinance, we authorize the publication of a summary only within 15 days of adoption.
02:53:24.28 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
02:53:24.33 Councilmember Thank you.
02:53:24.36 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Yeah.
02:53:24.60 Councilmember Thank you.
02:53:24.62 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) the whole
02:53:24.95 Councilmember Thank you.
02:53:24.97 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Oh.
02:53:25.21 Councilmember Sorry for the question.
02:53:25.76 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
02:53:25.90 Councilmember I'm not.
02:53:25.97 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) title.
02:53:26.64 Councilmember Thank you.
02:53:29.02 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) The actual code's shorter.
02:53:31.21 Thomas Ahrens Thank you.
02:53:31.23 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) But well read. Second. Second, we got a second from the Vice Mayor. All in favor? Aye. That passes five to zero.
02:53:32.29 Thomas Ahrens Thank you.

SECOND.
02:53:32.83 Unknown Thank you.
02:53:35.82 Unknown Yeah.
02:53:35.84 Alice Merrill Hi.
02:53:39.13 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you, Thomas.
02:53:39.72 Thomas Ahrens Thank you.
02:53:44.39 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) All right, now we'll bring it back to 6D for the review and approval of the city council meeting schedule. You put a schedule out and you got a couple comments back. Do we have any other comments?

Thank you.
02:53:59.08 Councilmember Yeah, I'm sorry, I did not.
02:53:59.09 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Yeah.

How do you?
02:54:03.53 Councilmember I had thought I had registered my general unavailability the first and Tuesdays of every month, I have a commitment for work uh, pretty much every month until five or six o'clock.

in San Francisco.
02:54:21.25 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) So starting in April, it goes sideways for you?
02:54:22.58 Councilmember Yeah, April, so January, February, and March are all second and fourth.

There's, I'm not exactly sure why it was changed. That seems like an easy one to change. The other months were changed. May was changed.

because of staff and Memorial Day, which I understand. And I can make some first and third Tuesdays work, but I just will be late.

routinely late to any closed session or interviews. So, which I would like to avoid if possible.
02:54:57.40 Councilmember So I think that's a lot of revisions. I think we should bring this back for consideration at our next meeting.
02:55:02.88 Councilmember Withee Yeah, I couldn't possibly agree until I've seen it all. Right, exactly.
02:55:06.91 Councilmember I've seen it all because...
02:55:08.43 Councilmember Withee Thank you.

Um,
02:55:09.73 Councilmember So perhaps the vice mayor can work with Serge to make those adjustments that you'd like to have made. And we can get another draft calendar to review for our next meeting.
02:55:20.14 Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles I'd just like to point out, because you can look at one month and say, well, why can't we just make the change? And so when you look at the parameters that Serge put in the staff report, and then obviously on each of the calendars, when you move to May, then there's an issue. So what we're trying to do is avoiding what we have right now, which is a back-to-back council meeting. First Tuesday of the month in November was election and the last Tuesday is during Thanksgiving break. So that's what we try to avoid. So we're happy to work with the vice mayor and just want to again share with the council it's kind of a domino effect one way or the other. And sometimes we can't avoid back to back and then sometimes the vice mayor has been able to work with us and be on the phone in closed session or Or we've scheduled things like interviews for when she is able to be here versus her missing those. So there's a lot of compromise, and we appreciate the Vice Mayor's ability to be flexible this past year. And again, we'd be happy to work with her to try to find accommodations. But it's a tough puzzle. That's my request. We'll do that.
02:56:27.31 Councilmember Thank you.
02:56:27.34 Councilmember That's my request. We'll do that. That's my request.
02:56:29.38 Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles Yeah.
02:56:29.65 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
02:56:29.85 Councilmember Yeah, so I apologize for that.
02:56:29.94 Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles Yeah.
02:56:30.29 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
02:56:34.61 Councilmember Okay, anyway.
02:56:35.79 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) But we did want to change April anyway because I am seeing now that it was during spring break.

Thank you.
02:56:41.31 Councilmember Yes, so that's actually just an absolute conflict.
02:56:41.33 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Yes. We have three.

Three kids.
02:56:43.67 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) Thank you.
02:56:44.57 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
02:56:44.58 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) Yeah. OK.
02:56:45.58 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
02:56:46.19 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) I also think for the second half of the year, I don't know if we reached out to Jill Hoffman for her availability, but it might be wise to do.
02:56:59.92 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) Great.
02:57:03.01 Councilmember What was her expected return date? July.
02:57:05.14 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) If all.
02:57:05.97 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) lie.
02:57:06.67 Councilmember (likely Joan Cox) So, Thank you.

Thank you.
02:57:07.35 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) July 2020.

All right, so you can get that out and we can even do that on consent or however we do it quickly on-
02:57:13.81 Councilmember Yeah.

Okay.

it.

And Serge has other conflicts noted.

I have not.
02:57:22.72 Councilmember I have not transmitted any conflicts.
02:57:26.79 Alice Merrill I don't know because I haven't seen now the actual
02:57:27.19 Councilmember But I don't know because I haven't seen now the actual draft. So once I see a draft, I'll advise of any conflicts.
02:57:30.05 Unknown Thank you.
02:57:34.35 Unknown Whatever council member Riley turned in, it's already been reflected on what was on the staff report. Okay, thank you.
02:57:42.91 Unknown you
02:57:49.17 Councilmember Withee Can you clarify that?

You sent out something for comment.

Correct.
02:57:58.24 Councilmember And he got comments from Councilmember Riley.
02:58:00.62 Councilmember Withee And then those changes have been made.
02:58:01.03 Councilmember but from nowhere else.
02:58:04.88 Councilmember Withee So this calendar was updated?
02:58:06.23 Councilmember So can we do that again? Can we...
02:58:08.64 Councilmember Withee Because I was not aware that the calendar in this staff report was different than what you sent out.
02:58:09.26 Councilmember Thank you.
02:58:13.33 Unknown No, no, initially there was an email that went to all of you asking if there was any conflicts. The only person that replied was council member Riley.

Thank you.
02:58:22.83 Councilmember that.
02:58:23.22 Unknown That's-
02:58:24.03 Councilmember Withee That is the only thing.
02:58:25.13 Unknown I thought Kat.
02:58:25.38 Councilmember Withee That's the hell.

THE END OF THE END OF THE
02:58:26.34 Unknown Thank you.
02:58:26.38 Councilmember No, no, no, the email came before the staff report. The email came two weeks before the staff report.
02:58:26.81 Unknown THE END OF
02:58:26.90 Unknown Thank you.
02:58:26.93 Sandra Bushmaker Thank you.
02:58:26.98 Councilmember Withee The email came before.

I'm not kidding.

THE END OF THE END OF THE
02:58:34.31 Councilmember Withee All righty. Sorry, I'm sorry.

Sorry.
02:58:38.39 Councilmember So I think we can at least tonight, sorry. Ray was talking. I'm sorry.
02:58:39.72 Councilmember Withee I'm not making it.

No, I'm sorry, I still, well, it's not that late, but I am getting confused.

Thank you.
02:58:49.34 Councilmember The calendar in the staff report already reflects.
02:58:50.98 Councilmember Withee I understand that. What I'm saying is there was a calendar, a draft calendar sent out for comment.
02:58:57.66 Councilmember with the staff report, there was one sent out two weeks before that in an email.
02:59:02.37 Councilmember Withee Okay.
02:59:02.77 Councilmember A DIFFERENT ONE.
02:59:02.79 Councilmember Withee Thank you.

Okay, then I apologize, I have not looked at the calendar in the staff report.
02:59:11.16 Councilmember Which is good because it's going to change.

yet again.
02:59:14.74 Councilmember So I don't know if this is helpful or not, I don't have any conflicts January, February, March, and if we change April.
02:59:21.10 Councilmember Yeah.
02:59:23.09 Councilmember To the 14th and 12th? I cannot do that.
02:59:24.27 Councilmember I cannot do this from the dais. I have to see a draft calendar with the new dates. I cannot just do this from the dais. I went through my whole work calendar.
02:59:26.08 Councilmember I have to say.
02:59:32.19 Councilmember my whole work calendar. January, February, and March are not changing.
02:59:35.00 Councilmember I know, but you're now proposing changes to April and other months.
02:59:39.26 Councilmember I was just trying to get agreement on the first four months of the year.

That was all I was trying to do.
02:59:47.49 Councilmember I...

Thank you.
02:59:48.24 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Okay. Submitted no revisions.

So I think you can probably count on the first three staying the same because we have no changes.
02:59:54.88 Councilmember Yes, I got that.
02:59:58.56 Councilmember Sorry, I have an early day tomorrow. I'm anxious to keep this rolling.
03:00:05.25 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) I was just going to slow it. Okay, so here we go with city manager reports, city council appointments or other council business. Is there any public comments? Seeing none, city manager report.
03:00:06.95 Councilmember Bye.
03:00:07.10 Unknown THE END OF THE END OF THE
03:00:07.25 Councilmember So,
03:00:07.34 Unknown HERE WITH YOU.
03:00:07.57 Councilmember Yeah.
03:00:07.59 Unknown THE END OF THE END OF THE
03:00:22.71 Vice Mayor Cleveland Knowles I have no report. Happy to answer any questions of the council.
03:00:27.64 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Any questions? Seeing none. Appointments to boards, commissions, and committees. I have none, but quickly, Serge, how many?

You don't have to say which ones for what, but how many applications are you received in total since our article ran?
03:00:37.97 Unknown Sure, so on November 8th of this month, we post an article asking for the community to submit applications by November 22nd, which is this Friday. So far, we send it out for Community Safety Disaster Preparedness Committee, the Historic Preservation Commission, the Library Board of Trustees, Pedestrian and Bicycle Advisory Committee, and the Planning Commission. So far we've received about 12 different applications for all the different boards and commissions, and I will keep you posted with a better number by the end of the week.
03:01:18.62 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Great. And then we'll start looking at those coming in January. We'll start interviewing and getting those all filled for the mayor. Well, wherever that mayor will be.

All right, featured...
03:01:28.83 Unknown Thank you.

I'm not sure.
03:01:31.51 Councilmember Withee I...

Something may have slipped through the cracks because Those who were there some months ago may remember that MCCMC formed a new committee.

Um...

Uh, to deal with or resurrected an old committee that was dealing with sea level rise and climate change. And this was a committee that Steph Council member Stephanie Moulton-Peters and David Coonhart-Court Madeira asked MCC to form, which it did. MCC voted to form that.

Socially, there was no point at anybody.

And in fact, I think we're the only city now that hasn't appointed anybody to that committee.

They haven't met yet, they haven't even decided what their scope is yet.

Somehow it's fallen through the cracks and it may not be due to us. So at some point it may have to be in next meeting in December, but it probably could wait till January. Would anybody like to spend that? We need to get a liaison agreed upon for that committee.
03:02:42.84 Alice Merrill Thank you.
03:02:42.88 Councilmember You need to get a lead.
03:02:47.74 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Can you think about like something?
03:02:48.43 Councilmember Thank you.
03:02:48.49 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) you
03:02:48.55 Councilmember Thank you.

I'm not clear on what the committee is.
03:02:52.39 Councilmember Withee This is a MCCMC committee.
03:02:55.24 Councilmember in the future.
03:02:55.41 Unknown Thank you.
03:02:55.46 Councilmember Thank you.
03:02:55.97 Councilmember Withee A new one.

that each city will be appointing a member to And most of the cities have appointed members to that committee, which hasn't yet met, but Social Leader hasn't.
03:03:12.12 Councilmember But what's the purpose of the committee?
03:03:14.75 Councilmember Withee I'll do it. I'll do it because I'm not in the JPA. Well, it's, it's, um, this is a, the purpose of the committee is actually, um,
03:03:16.03 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Bye.
03:03:16.07 Councilmember because I'm not in the J.P.
03:03:16.96 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.
03:03:25.32 Councilmember Withee The MCCMC resolution was, well, first of all, it was to deal with sea level rise and to deal with climate change. And the two leaders of that committee that are draft in the scope...
03:03:29.79 Unknown Yeah.
03:03:39.15 Councilmember Withee and it relates to our earlier conversation, wants it to be a liaison with Drawdown and a liaison with BayWave.
03:03:46.59 David Sudo Okay.
03:03:47.05 Councilmember Withee Okay, and so we need to appoint, we will eventually need to appoint our liaison to that committee. Most people are appointing their sustainability liaisons actually to that committee, for those cities that have sustainability commissions. So I just wanted to flag it for everybody so that when it comes to either December or January, I don't know which, when it's needed. So I'm wondering if staff could, you know, I got a call just the other day on it, so.
03:04:05.73 Unknown I need to.
03:04:05.97 Unknown Thank you.
03:04:17.90 Unknown I'm sorry.
03:04:18.02 Councilmember All right, we'll put it then. Be happy to serve whenever.
03:04:18.03 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Right.
03:04:18.24 Councilmember Withee Thank you.
03:04:18.37 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) happy to be here.

We'll hold off for now.

Thank you.
03:04:22.69 Councilmember Thank you.
03:04:22.72 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Thank you.

Yeah, thank you.
03:04:23.25 Councilmember to do.
03:04:26.42 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Future agenda items, we have the water management that Dennis, who I brought up.
03:04:30.71 Councilmember And then we got a correspondence from Neil Whitelaw about
03:04:31.33 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Correct.
03:04:35.33 Councilmember taking over PG&E, about Sausalito and other cities in Marin County taking over the electric distribution system from PG&E.
03:04:44.02 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) The Agenda Committee will consider that.
03:04:49.83 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Any others? Seeing none. Any other reports of significance? We'll adjourn at 10.02.
03:05:02.63 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Close, close, so close. Those damn MCC, MC.
03:05:16.40 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) Go bold. Tell them we want everything.
03:05:19.64 Unknown I'm going to start.
03:05:21.57 Mayor (or Councilmember leading meeting) We want Everyone hearing?
03:05:25.84 Councilmember Withee Can you imagine a three hour difference? I mean, last time it was one o'clock.
03:05:29.85 Councilmember I'm sorry.

It takes me the rest of the week. I mean, I have a senior staff.