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| 00:00:02.50 | Heidi Scoble | We're turning on the audio and we're about to do our live stream. |
| 00:00:10.93 | Heidi Scoble | extreme is up, I'm admitting all the that we have right now. Good evening. Council members this meeting is being held pursuant to section three of executive order n-29-20 issued by governor newsom on march 17 2020 and all members are joining this meeting telephonically through zoom and the item is being broadcast live on the city's website |
| 00:00:36.16 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you, Heidi. Good evening and welcome to the special city council meeting for Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021. I'll just let everybody know at this point that this is just a specific meeting for appointments to boards and commissions. And so, Madam. |
| 00:00:54.03 | Unknown | would you like to take the role please? Council member Sobieski. |
| 00:00:59.11 | Unknown | I'm going to go ahead and get a |
| 00:01:00.11 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:01:00.12 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 00:01:00.21 | Unknown | the number of last |
| 00:01:00.97 | Heidi Scoble | And then, we'll see. |
| 00:01:01.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:01:01.67 | Heidi Scoble | here. |
| 00:01:02.10 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:01:02.67 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 00:01:02.70 | Unknown | Councilor. |
| 00:01:02.98 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 00:01:03.02 | Unknown | member of Cleveland Noles. |
| 00:01:03.97 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 00:01:04.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:01:04.83 | Unknown | Thank you. Vice Mayor. |
| 00:01:05.96 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 00:01:05.98 | Unknown | Hellman? and Mayor Hoffman. Here, thank you. All members are present and we have a quorum. Thank you. um, So I will note that |
| 00:01:16.96 | Janelle Kellman | there is only um One thing on our one thing on our agenda tonight, and that is, as I already did, but I'll say it again. is our boards and commissions. At this point, oops, sorry, hold on just a second. |
| 00:01:38.77 | Janelle Kellman | I... |
| 00:01:39.34 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 00:01:41.18 | Janelle Kellman | Sorry, I need just a second. |
| 00:01:45.35 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:01:54.49 | Vicki Nichols | Oh my god, this is crazy. |
| 00:01:56.38 | Janelle Kellman | All right. |
| 00:01:56.91 | Vicki Nichols | you |
| 00:01:59.71 | Janelle Kellman | Sorry, I'm having a little bit of technical difficulty. |
| 00:02:03.76 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, since we're at public comment, would you like me to provide kind of the introductory statement? Yes, please, thank you. |
| 00:02:03.84 | Janelle Kellman | And Amerisens |
| 00:02:11.08 | Rachel | Okay. |
| 00:02:11.82 | Heidi Scoble | So this time on the agenda where we will be accepting public comment for items that are listed on this agenda. So public comment is for this item tonight, which would be the interviews for boards, committees and commissions. The city clerk, myself, Heidi Scoble, will be calling on individuals who have raised their hands they were raised. after Um, The participants are called on. You will be unmuted to allow you to share your comments. Remember public comments are each allowed a total of three minutes to speak. Please. Keep your comments respectful and focused. And we, the city council would like to listen to any individual who requests to speak. And each speaker has the responsibility to act in a civil and courteous manner as defined by the mayor. We will not tolerate hate speech, direct or indirect threats or abusive language The city clerk will mute anyone who fails to follow these guidelines. So at this time, members of the public have the opportunity to raise their hands for public comment. |
| 00:03:19.02 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, I do not see any raised hands. |
| 00:03:21.38 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thanks very much. We will close public comment at this point and move on. Did we take the role? Yes. We did. Okay, sorry. Like I said, I'm having... technical difficulties here for a second. So, um, We were, anybody who's watching is interested, we were provided quite a large, Binder, thank you, Madam Clerk and your team for putting this together, all of the Um, all of the applications and resumes that were attached for all of the boards and commissions and also a spreadsheet. So these are all attached to to the agenda if you would like to look at that online. We're going what we're going to do. Here's the format for tonight. We're going to go down and do interviews for boards and commissions that we have open seats on and those are Community safety and this is the order we're going to take it Community safety and disaster preparedness historic preservation library board. Parks and Rec. Pedestrian and Bicycle Advisory Committee, Planning Commission, Sustainability Commission, And EDAC is going to be last. And that's also the one that we have the most applications for. What I would propose that we do and how we're going to progress is that we're going to go through our boards and commissions that we have applications for. We're gonna do our interviews. And then we're gonna, As soon as we're done with interviews for that Boarding Commission, we're going to pause and we're gonna vote. at that point for that boarding commission. And so, We are going to keep it simple. And I think we're just, Heidi's going to put up the spreadsheet so that we can see in front of us who we just interviewed. And then we're just going to list if we have. Um, you know, two of three, but we're going to do an alternate, then Let me ask you this, how you guys want to do this. Do we want to do if we have seeds. you know, some of them we're full up, but we just have enough applicants for the seats and the alternate. You guys want to vote on applicants and then the alternate afterwards, or you just want to say, these are my. for instance, community safety and disaster preparedness there's two seats and then there's an alternate that we can appoint. And so, Do we want to do two seats and then do the alternate or do we just want to say these are my three votes and whoever gets the least amount of votes is the alternate So anybody have any thought on that or? Want to chime in? agnostic on it. It'd be faster just to say, these are my votes and however they fall out, those are the ones that are elected and then this is the alternate. |
| 00:06:16.02 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 00:06:16.68 | Unknown | We were going to. |
| 00:06:16.70 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:06:16.73 | Melissa Blaustein | It's going to be fun. |
| 00:06:17.74 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:06:17.76 | Melissa Blaustein | how it's gone before though. Usually we make it a nomination. And then, and I just remember when I went through the process, like we make a nomination, then we each make a nomination and talk about it and then we vote. especially with something like, I mean, I could see where we would do this after each one, but with something like EDAC, where there's so many applicants, I'd rather like listen and then have a more concerted conversation about EDAC at a separate Council meeting just yeah. |
| 00:06:42.50 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah. |
| 00:06:43.01 | Janelle Kellman | I- Thank you. |
| 00:06:43.85 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 00:06:43.97 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:06:44.04 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 00:06:44.15 | Janelle Kellman | Sorry, I didn't mean that. |
| 00:06:45.50 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, so I don't, the whole point of this was to do this and do the appointments tonight. So I don't see any reason to delay EDAC. And the other thing is, We did motions and that sort of process when we were all together and we didn't have to do one by one and the mechanics of it weren't so hard. Um, You know, I, and the other, the other part is. Um... It's really, it's hard to have uh, a conversation about applicants and not offend somebody. And not be so we've always in the past have been pretty Um, limited on the discussion. right? So the discussion has usually been Limited in most cases. With all due respect, that was not my experience when I went through the application process. Yeah, I got it. Yours was a little bit different. And I think we saw why we shouldn't have |
| 00:07:42.95 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. |
| 00:07:48.43 | Janelle Kellman | open, you know, we have really good applicants. the votes are what the votes are. If someone wants to call it out and have a question that I, you know, and they need to clarify someone's record or something, I think that's okay. I'm a lot of- |
| 00:07:59.97 | Unknown | I'm getting a lot of |
| 00:08:00.99 | Janelle Kellman | Feedback. of people who are, Offended. greatly by listening to a conversation about You know, unless it's a big thing, right? I've read the, you know, we've all read the resumes we've read. So Susan, I see your hand up, and then we'll go to Ian. |
| 00:08:21.50 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, thank you, Mayor Hoffman. So I would definitely, so we're already a little behind schedule. I would definitely endorse Councilmember Blaustein's um idea to hold off on the edac nominations for tonight i would like to get the input from a chair and the vice chair of that committee on whether they even want to increase the number of seats and by how many they already have there's was a seven to 12 number by our resolution and so we don't have to appoint any we already have eight members and be happy to carry over the ones that are already there this evening but also we were provided a lot of information this afternoon while i was at work about people who have dropped out or changed places and i have not been able to review any of that and i think we're finishing by eight if i'm correct and I'm counting on that hard stuff. I have to get back to work. So I would like to have that discussion at a later date. |
| 00:09:21.87 | Janelle Kellman | So let me ask, let me ask the two EDAQs. because this is the first I'm hearing that we're not ready to go on EDAC today. This is the first anybody's raised that we're not getting ready to appoint an interview for EDAC. So. The whole point of doing this at a separate time was so that we didn't take up time at a city council meeting and we could focus on this for appointments. So let me hear from the two. |
| 00:09:41.05 | Janelle Kellman | Let me hear from the two. I was under the impression we were just doing interviews tonight when we were polled, so I apologize for that. So that was all I had heard. |
| 00:09:47.50 | Janelle Kellman | with the other. This whole time has been I'm sorry that that didn't get out. But the whole time it's been, we're gonna do interviews and appoints. tonight so that we don't have to take up city council time to do interviews and appointments. Let me hear from the two EDAC members. What do you guys think about EDAC? |
| 00:10:06.69 | Ian Sobieski | Well... I guess I because I've been on the EDAC thing and I knew this was coming down the on down the pike I've been focused on this. understandably more than others that are not the liaison. So, um, I think, I think everyone's making valid points actually. I'm wondering there if it wouldn't make sense do the interviews. which gets it off our future agenda. and you could still hold the very just appointing vote that you talked about, just taking a vote and that's who gets appointed. at a subsequent meeting and there are no interviews associated with it, but it gives people maybe a chance to digest the interviews. think about it a little bit instead of just shooting from their immediate impression of the interviews. It's just a thought, a way to handling that particular One, as I say, I've thought about it and been able to talk to people about the EDAC some of the candidates, so I have some sense, but I understand that maybe everyone hasn't had that chance. So I'm not sure anything's necessarily lost by sort of splitting the difference and doing the interviews and still having a perfunctory vote with no perfunctory, just a vote with no discussion. So as you say, taking the discussion offline um, or not offline, but just not having a discussion in public and just having that very quick vote at a future city council meeting so that might be a |
| 00:11:37.59 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, so... Vice Mayor, you're the other EDAC. Yeah. |
| 00:11:40.60 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. I'm not sure. So just to clarify, I was under the impression that EDAC knew we were appointing new people and they were ready for us to do so. And then additionally, for the benefit of the council members, we did lose two EDAC members recently. One is moving, the other one resigned. So we do in fact have spots that were being utilized as part of the dialogue that I think So my understanding from the chair and the vice chair is that they are expecting an appointment. to and just to make sure I understand, if the concern of the other council members is that they have not had time to adequately review the packet and they feel they would be in a better position to make a decision, Um, that's. certainly understandable is a very Big packet. If that's the question, if it's For some other reason around wanting to have further dialogue, we should close that issue around how we intend to make the appointments. And Mayor Hoffman, what I'm hearing from you is, we're gonna vote, we're not gonna have a big dialogue around one candidate's particular benefit over the other. We were going to do sort of the rank voting that we're now familiar with. So I guess I would ask the other council members, if you feel like you're not, Pamela Vona, familiar with the packet and that's why you would like to delay a decision that's understandable and I if that's the case i'd like to know if it's wanting to have a longer conversation that's a different topic. |
| 00:13:16.35 | Janelle Kellman | I'm familiar with the packet. I am not familiar with a whole bunch of four or five attachments that came in sometime late this afternoon. So I don't know all of what was in there. I also did read in the cover email that there were people who applied who we could not consider tonight because they were not agendized. So I would like to give those people a chance to apply to whatever committee if that was EDAC or what it was. I just haven't been able, when we get information that late before meeting, I haven't looked at that supplemental information. And then the question that I do think is worth discussion at some point is whether we need the full 12 members on EDAC or if a smaller number is more efficient and effective. |
| 00:13:40.39 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:13:58.48 | Janelle Kellman | I think that we can have that discussion without implicating any individuals. MS. So I would – and I would love to have EDAC representation here or at our meeting to understand that. |
| 00:14:04.69 | Unknown | AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT. you |
| 00:14:05.03 | Ian Sobieski | So I- |
| 00:14:11.26 | Ian Sobieski | That is a discussion that I guess we as a THE END OF And so I think, and even at EDAC, I don't know if that was exactly a discussion that was had. I will share that people had lamented the losses that had occurred. and wish to have more horsepower on the committee. And it is very much an exemplary working committee where committee members are doing work. And I think the culture that's built is that everyone who joins is sort of expected to put some elbow grease in and that there would be encouragement to have a fully staffed committee. But that's my own impression, honestly, that's not a, a statement from the chair or vice chair in the sense of the committee. So if such a statement would be helpful, I think one could be could be forthcoming. |
| 00:14:59.77 | Jill Hoffman | So council members, so we ask you, I'll just add to that, that the act does a human share of work. They have multiple subcommittees. They work very, very hard. And I always had the sense that they would benefit from additional members. maybe we just urge the council to consider that we get to make that decision. I mean, certainly if we looked at, We looked at the applicants and we felt like there wasn't a good fit. We don't have to. a point, you know, that's those are the recommended numbers. And then I think I'm also getting a little bit nervous about this idea of consulting with the chairs and the vice chairs of various committees as to what they think. how many should be added and such, I mean, I think under our protocols, that is for the city council to determine And so I just want to clarify that and. So maybe we should stick with that. |
| 00:15:47.09 | Unknown | All right. |
| 00:15:47.38 | Jill Hoffman | So... |
| 00:15:49.03 | Melissa Blaustein | Councilor Blasley has a comment, sorry, Madam. Sorry, yeah. Thanks, Vice Mayor. Just my concern is just that there's over, there's 18 applicants for EDAC. It's the only committee that has that many applicants, and I think it warrants additional thoughts after the interview, whereas the others, there's maybe one or two vacancies where we'd have to make a decision. But this is a very important committee with the most applicants. In fact, it's the most applicants we've ever seen to any of our boards or commissions in May of 2020 and now. And given that, I personally am familiar with the packet, but I'd like time after the interview process to really think through this decision and not make you know, a preconceived decision based on what I saw in the packet of performance is different in the interview. I'm just given that there are 18 applicants plus three folks who are reapplying. I think this particular one, I would really like it if we could, and we don't have to have discussion. I just would like to have the vote. at the next meeting. I agree, Vice Mayor Kalman, with your comments about that Council should decide the size and the number of appointments, but I would just like personally, given the number of applicants extra time to consider. that appointment. |
| 00:16:55.42 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, well, Mayor, I feel like my recommendation, I mean, we have two council members who are concerned about this. You know, we're already kind of moving past our time. If it's a big concern, I'm willing to move the vote on EDAC to a future meeting just to give people additional time to consider. I don't need to belabor it further. I don't know, Councilmember Sobieski, if you have. a different feeling. I don't wanna do a disservice to EDAC, who I know would like more people. So help me here. I wanna make sure we're giving them what they need. |
| 00:17:25.35 | Ian Sobieski | I agree. Well, as I propose, I think adopting the mayor's proposal not to have discussion and just have a vote at the next meeting would take three minutes. and would accommodate the concerns that were articulated. |
| 00:17:39.02 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, so let's, so let's do this then. Let's go ahead and do the interviews for EDAC. But I want to be clear that we gave a lot of notice. We gave deadlines for interviews. And I don't want to have So, I think that's a great question. Interviews are done. Applicants are done at this point. We can change that later in the year if we want to, but right now, The idea is that we have to have certainty. People have relied on it. We're going to do interviews, and that's it. And then, so then we'll have the vote on EDAC at a later meeting. I guess, you know, we can just do it at the April 13th meeting. But unless people have another idea, I say we go ahead and do the votes on everything else and get that out of the way. And get the... |
| 00:18:24.18 | Jill Hoffman | I'm in support of that. April 13th meeting, I see Councilman Blasin is agreeing. If everybody else is okay with that, we'll add that to the agenda, and then we'll vote on everybody else. I'm fully in support of that. Thank you. |
| 00:18:36.21 | Jennifer Genari | Thank you. |
| 00:18:36.23 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. Okay. |
| 00:18:37.60 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. There's somebody emailing Ms. Crisanti who says that our meeting is locked, I believe. |
| 00:18:38.15 | Jill Hoffman | Seems like a good comment. |
| 00:18:38.78 | Jennifer Genari | Thank you. |
| 00:18:45.68 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 00:18:45.69 | Janelle Kellman | . |
| 00:18:45.73 | Heidi Scoble | Yes. |
| 00:18:45.81 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:18:45.93 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 00:18:46.03 | Janelle Kellman | MADISON. |
| 00:18:46.12 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor. |
| 00:18:46.72 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:18:47.89 | Heidi Scoble | I was just going to bring that to your attention. It does look like the meeting was locked right at the beginning. The meeting has been unlocked and I was going to recommend that we take public comment. We can either do that now or we could do it at the end of the meeting. |
| 00:19:04.54 | Janelle Kellman | Let's do it right now. Okay. Due to the fact that we had a technical difficulty at the beginning, I'm going to reopen public comment. So whoever would like to make a public comment, now's your chance. |
| 00:19:18.47 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, there are no hands raised at this time. |
| 00:19:18.50 | Janelle Kellman | Madam Mayor, |
| 00:19:23.01 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, and we have Ms. Crisantes with us? |
| 00:19:27.63 | Heidi Scoble | Oh, Ms. Crisante is just joining us right now. |
| 00:19:34.85 | Heidi Scoble | Okay. So if you... If you'd like to re-announce, oh, we do have a hand raised at this time. Ava Crisante. |
| 00:19:43.68 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:19:45.18 | Heidi Scoble | Ava has been unmuted. |
| 00:19:52.43 | Janelle Kellman | Um, Ms. Crisante, I think on your end, you've been unmuted, but it looks like you're still muted on maybe. You're in. We can't hear you. |
| 00:20:05.93 | Ava Crisante | Can you hear me? Yes, now. |
| 00:20:05.99 | Janelle Kellman | Can you hear me? Yes, now. Can you hear me? Yes, now I can hear you. |
| 00:20:09.19 | Ava Crisante | Um, I was just recently let into this meeting. Can you clarify what happened? |
| 00:20:15.03 | Janelle Kellman | Sure. So we haven't interviewed anybody yet. We are, we did some process things about how we're, you know, just how we're going to go through the process tonight. And that we're going to do interviews and vote on all the boards and commissions that we're gonna vote on, interview and vote on tonight, except for EDAC. an interview tonight. Okay. |
| 00:20:38.81 | Ava Crisante | Okay, I'm just concerned because I wasn't able to join the meeting for the first 20 or so minutes. And I don't think I'm the only one. So is it, is it? valid for you guys to start from the beginning and make sure that everyone actually got into your meeting |
| 00:20:57.96 | Janelle Kellman | Yes, but that's all that we've done. So let me make, we're gonna pause for just a second. And I'm going to let our technical guys make sure that everybody's in, and then I'll do another summary when our, when our clerk- |
| 00:21:14.08 | Ava Crisante | Okay, because I would like to make public comment, but I don't want a public comment in a meeting if there's a violation of the brown act because people are blocked from the meeting so we need to make sure that everyone who needs to get in gets in |
| 00:21:26.21 | Janelle Kellman | Yes, understood, and that's what we're doing. We're gonna follow the procedure that I just set forth where the clerk is, we're gonna have to pause for a second. |
| 00:21:31.90 | Ava Crisante | Okay, I'm gonna go back on hold for public comment if that's okay. That's fine. Okay, thank you. You're welcome. |
| 00:21:41.48 | Heidi Scoble | Mayor, we noticed that the meeting was locked about 10 minutes ago, and we since then have unlocked the meeting. and participants have been able to come in. Currently we have 21 participants and they still keep on streaming in. I would like to identify that we have let the applicants know to join closer to their interview date and in times and so that's why they're slowly streaming in when um the way they're doing it currently |
| 00:22:09.44 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. So, um. So let's give it. Let's give it just a couple more minutes to make sure that now we're unlocked. And then I'll come back on and make another announcement and then we'll reopen public comment. Okay, so everybody just stand fast for three minutes, three or four minutes, and we'll just make sure everybody's getting on. Okay. |
| 00:23:53.38 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, would you like me to read how public comment can be taken? I'm not sure. |
| 00:23:58.03 | Janelle Kellman | Sure, let me ask the vice mayor, excuse me, in Quebec. |
| 00:24:00.53 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 00:24:02.99 | Janelle Kellman | I think I said three. What? |
| 00:24:04.31 | Jennifer Genari | Thank you. You might perform. |
| 00:24:07.18 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. Yeah. If you could repeat that, that would be great. If you could repeat all of that, Heidi, that would be good. |
| 00:24:13.68 | Heidi Scoble | We'll start at the beginning. when it's- called the city clerk will identify the person, the participant being called upon. After you are called upon, you will be unmuted to allow you to share your comments. Remember, public comments are each allowed a total of three minutes to speak. Please keep your comments respectful and focused. The City Council would like to listen to any individuals who request to speak, and each speaker has the responsibility to act in a civil and courteous manner as defined by the mayor. We will, the City Council will not tolerate hate speech, direct or indirect threats, or abusive language. The meeting host or the city clerk will mute anyone who fails to follow these guidelines. So we have Ava Crisante whose hand is raised. |
| 00:25:03.81 | Jennifer Genari | Okay, very good. The go ahead and to the next question. |
| 00:25:05.26 | Heidi Scoble | I believe it's been unmuted. |
| 00:25:12.89 | Janelle Kellman | Ms. Crisante, we can't hear you. It looks like you might still be muted on your end. |
| 00:25:25.21 | Heidi Scoble | We have Charlene Eldon who has also raised her hand. Would you like me to? Oh. Looks like Ava has responded that she'll start her video later. |
| 00:25:36.33 | Heidi Scoble | Ava, you have been unmuted. |
| 00:25:45.85 | Janelle Kellman | Ava, we're not hearing you. So why not, if someone else has their hand up, let's go to them and then we can come back to you. |
| 00:25:54.22 | Heidi Scoble | Charlene Eldon is our next commenter. I have unmuted Charlene. |
| 00:25:57.90 | Charlene Eldon | Yeah, hi again. MS ORTAGUSONS- Oh, thank you. Hi, everyone. I think it's funny that Sausalito and Marin's idea of peace is censorship. But we can't bring valid criticisms, facts, history, anything to the table, especially in light of people who were found guilty of a horrible constitutional crime. I was just in the school board meeting when this one was failing, and they essentially said the same thing, that they want to unify, but people like me are getting in the way. So I'd like to clarify for the record that the misinformation shared by the Willow Creek parents and leaders and Susan Cleveland Knowles and the rest of them. has really led to this sense that this was a gray area or that the segregation of schools was somehow an accident. It was not. It was deliberate and it was based on presumption of white supremacy, which we now know are a domestic terror threat. Right? So this idea that peace will be achieved with nothing but kind language and soft spokenness and positivity is really absurd because this is horrifying. And it upsets people. We saw a lot of censorship at the the Board of Supervisors last year during the COVID pandemic and it actually resulted in a spike in the Latinx community that went unaddressed because the Board of Supervisors did not like our tone. They did not like the Latino women calling in to say that this was fucking bullshit, that they weren't given enough food. So frankly, if you can't handle strong language from the public, you shouldn't be in office. Thank you. |
| 00:27:51.75 | Heidi Scoble | Eva Crisante has been unmuted. |
| 00:27:57.14 | Ava Crisante | Hi there, can you hear me? Yes, go ahead. Thanks so much. Yeah, I have a concern because I have questions in to Melissa Blaustein and Abbott Chambers regarding library presentations. And I haven't received an answer. And I want to make clear that Not providing answers to valid and relevant questions isn't a good way to make the questions go away. It simply amplifies them. So they need to get back to me on those questions. I also want to point out that when I didn't get an answer, Excuse me. I had to pull off on the road, on my bike. But when I didn't receive a response, to the questions I asked about how Abbott has been censoring people from library presentations. I did a PRA request to the City of San Rafael for one of Abbott Chamber's selected speakers. Andrew Henning is an MBA who for some reason has been given an inordinate amount of money from various municipalities for doing very sketchy work with regard to unhoused populations. So I put in a request to the city of San Rafael for communications and information about his departure from the city of San Rafael after some disclosures came up about one of the groups, the Downtown Streets team, which turns out to be extremely problematic. I was informed by the city of San Rafael that they will require a pretty pretty big window for returning responses for full documents at least until April 30. I found it curious that in the meantime, Mr. Henning had mysteriously cancelled his library So I'd like to propose that the city of Sausalito, Melissa Blaustein and Abbott Chambers, and everyone on the council may want to expand their transparency with regard to their processes. Because unfortunately, when you shut the questions out, People just turn to PRAs and get more documents and create more transparency on their own. And, I do think it's problematic. I made several requests to the city to present the data on sheriff arrests, the arrest demographics, which are extremely problematic. I continue to pull in information through PRA requests regarding policing in Marin County, and that includes your own police department. So, I'm asking you publicly to create, sorry for the soundtrack here, but you did delay the meeting. But I'm asking you to create some more transparency around your processes, but also to accept that, you know, your library presentation should not bar information about your own municipal police force or the sheriff office which is working in your jurisdiction. |
| 00:31:00.50 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:31:00.53 | Heidi Scoble | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:31:00.57 | Janelle Kellman | Three minutes has lapsed. Thank you. Okay, thank you. At this point, I don't see any other raised hands. |
| 00:31:11.74 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, that's correct. There are no additional hands that are raised at this. |
| 00:31:15.74 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. So I'm gonna close public comment and we're gonna move on to our Madam, which is to conduct interviews for the Economic Development Advisory. And so Are we ready to go with that one? |
| 00:31:35.40 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 00:31:35.41 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:31:37.81 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, that's a typo. The first, I'm sorry, interviews for the board's committees boards committees and commissions, the first item would be to conduct interviews for the community safety and disaster Thank you. Yeah, that's what I was recruiting. |
| 00:31:51.63 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 00:31:53.08 | Heidi Scoble | It's a typo. |
| 00:31:53.18 | Jill Hoffman | the type of thing. Madam Mayor, I just want to make sure other council members have seen that the city clerk did send an email with some standard questions to be asked. All the questions are standard for all of the boards and commissions except for EDAC And I believe there were three different questions in the EDAC questions. They came from the city. I'm just sharing that that email is in your inbox. I did not draft the questions. |
| 00:32:17.80 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah. So here's the two questions. And we have, How much time do we have allotted for each? |
| 00:32:25.63 | Heidi Scoble | So for the first item, we have five minutes allotted. The reason behind the five minutes is that we will be only interviewing One applicant at this time, Michael Brandvold. Thank you. |
| 00:32:37.58 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:32:37.60 | Heidi Scoble | Though there are two existing incumbents that are eligible for reappointment, the incumbents will not be in. |
| 00:32:44.06 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:32:44.96 | Heidi Scoble | I'm not sure. |
| 00:32:45.02 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. |
| 00:32:45.33 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. you |
| 00:32:45.71 | Janelle Kellman | So for this one, we're just gonna interview Michael Brandenbould. I need to... I need to note that Michael Brandevald is the husband of my husband's cousin. So You need some. He's applied for three positions on, I believe three, maybe, yeah, three. And so... I don't believe that rises to the level that I need to abstain or recuse myself, but, um, I wanted to note that for the council. So if anybody... I'd like to address that. That's fine. Yes, council member Cleveland Knowles. |
| 00:33:31.97 | Janelle Kellman | MS NAUERT- Oh, Mayor Huffman, I don't think our city attorney is here, and I don't think that that's a conflict, but I think it's usual to say that you've still believe you can be fair and impartial just for the record. |
| 00:33:42.21 | Janelle Kellman | Yes, for the record, I do believe I can be fair and impartial. I'm opening it up now if any of the five council members |
| 00:33:48.04 | Janelle Kellman | I'm hoping it up now. |
| 00:33:51.85 | Janelle Kellman | challenge that or request that I recuse my challenge that. I'm fine. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Okay, so let's go ahead and Thank you. and have Michael Join us. |
| 00:34:06.97 | Heidi Scoble | Michael Brandefald has been given co-host functions and you can see him on the screen. Yeah. Hi Michael. |
| 00:34:13.97 | Janelle Kellman | They're on, there you go. Okay. So I'm going to ask you, |
| 00:34:16.01 | Vicki Nichols | So I'm going to... |
| 00:34:17.82 | Janelle Kellman | We have about five minutes for this interview. I'm sorry, all of our interviews always in the past and now and forever are always super fast. So. I have two questions and then if we have time the other council members will ask you questions and So we'll just If you'd like to please introduce yourself, let us know how long you've lived in Sausalito and tell us about yourself and your interest in the committee, which is a community safety and disaster preparedness committee. |
| 00:34:45.19 | Michael Brandvold | Thank you and Pleasure to meet everybody. My name's Michael Brandvold. I have been living in Sausalito since 2010. Prior to that, I was over in San Francisco since 1998. Um... My reason for applying is I really wanna do something to help the city. I just sort of had that growing bug in me that i want to do a little bit more or do what i can so when the opportunity came up for some of these committees i just picked some of them that i thought interest me and that i might be able to do something to help |
| 00:35:26.87 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, great. Um, What would you consider is your greatest strength or asset that would positively contribute to the committee? |
| 00:35:37.10 | Michael Brandvold | To this committee, community safety, my probably my greatest asset is my whole career has been involved in computer systems, which require a lot of planning, redundancies, being prepared, backups. How do you respond to the unexpected situations that might befall you? So that to me, I think that would be the greatest asset that I bring to this specific committee. Overall, I'm just a highly organized person. Um, very eager to jump in and deal with any situation that might fall upon. |
| 00:36:23.10 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thank you. Does anybody have a follow-up? Yes, council member Cleveland Knowles. |
| 00:36:27.82 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, hi, thanks so much for being here with us tonight. I just, since you have applied to several, I think three different committees, do you have an order of preference? |
| 00:36:36.58 | Michael Brandvold | Probably the number one would be parks and recs, just because that would apply more directly. I've got a seven-year-old daughter, so we're constantly living in parks and having fun outside. So that would probably be number one. Historic preservation would be number two. I'm just fascinated by the history of the community here, and then community safety. |
| 00:37:03.57 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Good. Thank you for clarifying that. Yes, Councilmember Sobieski. |
| 00:37:08.17 | Michael Brandvold | Thank you. |
| 00:37:08.19 | Ian Sobieski | . Thank you. |
| 00:37:08.53 | Michael Brandvold | Thank you. |
| 00:37:10.70 | Ian Sobieski | Just to follow up on that, Michael, first off, thanks for volunteering and applying. But my question is, How many committees do you want to be on? |
| 00:37:18.84 | Michael Brandvold | Well, I only want to be on one, but there, yeah, there wasn't, at least I didn't see clear direction of setting priorities and, and picking. It just said, which ones do you want? So. |
| 00:37:32.12 | Janelle Kellman | You're okay. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, if no further questions, which I don't see any. So let's... I see that we have two out of three of the three applicants, but we also have the ability to appoint an alternate. Um... And so, |
| 00:37:51.96 | Melissa Blaustein | So, |
| 00:37:52.30 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:37:52.42 | Melissa Blaustein | Are you sure there is an alternate already on that committee for the staff report? Oh, there is, okay. |
| 00:37:58.04 | Janelle Kellman | Maybe that's not what I don't think. Okay, sorry. I didn't see that in the staff report. So Heidi Kirsch, the alternate? |
| 00:38:09.43 | Heidi Scoble | That is correct. There is currently an alternate and only two positions that are open at this time. |
| 00:38:15.23 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thanks. Thank you for that clarification. |
| 00:38:17.46 | Heidi Scoble | In addition to the 94965 liaison, however, the city did not receive any applications for that position. |
| 00:38:23.77 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. Thank you. |
| 00:38:25.78 | Heidi Scoble | Okay. |
| 00:38:26.10 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. All right. Who wants to start us off? Anybody doing this one? Dive in. So Heidi's going to keep track. We're just going to call out our picks and then she's going to keep. Can you on this section, Heidi, can you just keep the running tally? Or just put a. |
| 00:38:49.57 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, unfortunately this is a PDF and I don't have it in edit mode, but I do have an identical paper copy that I'm gonna be preparing notes and I can upload the final product. Okay. |
| 00:39:00.91 | Charlene Eldon | And that. |
| 00:39:02.15 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. Okay, so this is how I propose to do it. So we're voting for two. So I would say, I'm just gonna, I'll just start. You guys wanna rotate who goes first? That's fine too. But I'll just say Jane Kendall and Tom Peraza are two for this committee. |
| 00:39:24.32 | Janelle Kellman | Who wants to go next? Vice Mayor, we'll just go next. |
| 00:39:26.48 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, those would be my two picks as well. |
| 00:39:32.34 | Jill Hoffman | Um... |
| 00:39:33.14 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. you |
| 00:39:33.74 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:39:33.97 | Janelle Kellman | with an ulcer. Um... Yeah, I guess that's right. |
| 00:39:42.90 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:39:43.03 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah. Councilman Blaustein. Yes, the same. |
| 00:39:50.73 | Janelle Kellman | Councilmember Sobieski. |
| 00:39:52.32 | Ian Sobieski | Yes, the same. |
| 00:39:54.85 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thank you to everybody who applied and moving on then to our next, historic. So let me let me announce again, since some people were on and I'll do this again throughout. So the way we're going to do it is We're doing our interviews and then as soon as the interviews are done, we're going to move straight into appointments so that so that it's in our minds and we can move on. Can I ask the question of the staff |
| 00:40:18.98 | Melissa Blaustein | Next one. |
| 00:40:20.01 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:40:20.02 | Melissa Blaustein | Sure. So, Do we know that Nathaniel Berkowitz has indicated an interest in continuing? Because I'm the liaison and he has not... Been in the lab. So I just want to make sure that he would like to continue his term. |
| 00:40:34.76 | Heidi Scoble | Councilmember Blastene and Madam Mayor and council members, city clerk has reached out to all incumbents and all incumbents have indicated that they would like to be reappointed for an additional term |
| 00:40:53.10 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:40:53.12 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you, Heidi. |
| 00:40:56.51 | Janelle Kellman | . |
| 00:40:56.68 | Melissa Blaustein | that answers. |
| 00:40:57.03 | Janelle Kellman | question? |
| 00:40:57.62 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 00:40:58.55 | Janelle Kellman | Yes, thank you. Okay, so then if you want to... So the only two we're going to interview tonight is Mike Brandenbould again and Vicki Nichols. |
| 00:41:12.34 | Jill Hoffman | Again, per the email that came out, Mary Griffin has withdrawn her application |
| 00:41:19.91 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:41:19.93 | Heidi Scoble | Okay. Applicants have been assigned co-host functions and have the ability to share their screen. and unmute themselves. |
| 00:41:35.71 | Janelle Kellman | I see Mike. |
| 00:41:46.04 | Vicki Nichols | We are. |
| 00:41:46.86 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, and that, yeah. Welcome. Okay, welcome back, Mike, and welcome, Vicki. Okay. So. Um... We're gonna ask, I don't know if you guys I know Michael did, but we're going to ask questions everybody and then do follow-up. you know, if interested. I don't think we need to ask Michael again to introduce himself because he already did We probably want to ask him then what he would consider his greatest strength or asset that would positively contribute to the historic preservation. And then, Vicki, we'll come back to you with those two questions. So we're going to ask you, to introduce yourself. even though I can't imagine. But anyway, how long you've lived in Sausalito, tell us about yourself and your interest in the committee. Okay, and then that second, same second question. So anyway, go ahead, Michael. |
| 00:42:43.65 | Michael Brandvold | So again, Michael Brandvold, been here since 2010. My greatest asset probably to historic preservation is I'm just a history buff. Absolutely love history, love what made a city. Fascinated by the old photos of what was here before because I think I can, not just I, but I think people have to learn from the past. You have to learn from what was here before You know, there's that saying, you know, if you don't you're doomed to repeat what happened. It's just an overwhelming interest in history. I think Sausalito has such a great amount of history, David Miller, That it has to be preserved, it really needs to be brought out for everybody to see the incredible change that this city has gone through since it was first formed to where it is today. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:43:47.57 | Janelle Kellman | you Okay, thank you. Okay. Vicki, if you would like to introduce yourself, how long you've lived in Sausalito, tell us about yourself and your interest in the committee, and then what you would consider your greatest strength or asset that would positively contribute to the committee. |
| 00:44:05.10 | Vicki Nichols | Okay, thank you all for the time to be considered. My name is Vicki Nichols, and I've been in Sausalito now for years. |
| 00:44:06.88 | Janelle Kellman | I can see. |
| 00:44:11.78 | Vicki Nichols | I was a member of the local government. I was a member of the local government. I would like to bring that experience back. I would like to bring that and work on a couple of projects. I have been I'm a docent and a board member in the historical society so I'm very familiar with South Swedish history. One thing I didn't put on my application I've also worked with the county and the California Preservation Foundation. on there's actually guidelines coming out on how we do upgrades for sea level rise and historic integrity in buildings and as you know we have a historic district that's very near the water so So I'm just preparing to go on an inventory of our building and I would hope |
| 00:45:14.70 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, hold on, Vick. I, we're having trouble. I'm having trouble here and Vickie, can you, are you guys having trouble? |
| 00:45:20.30 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, maybe she could turn off her camera, that might help. |
| 00:45:20.32 | Janelle Kellman | We are in. Thank you. |
| 00:45:22.64 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:45:23.18 | Janelle Kellman | Oh yeah. Do you want to, would you mind turning your camera off? That might help us. with your bandwidth. |
| 00:45:29.34 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 00:45:29.97 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:45:30.03 | Vicki Nichols | Oh. Okay. Okay, is that better? Is that better? Yeah. I think so. Is that better? We're still, yeah. Can you hear me? |
| 00:45:42.03 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:45:42.25 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:45:42.29 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:45:42.30 | Janelle Kellman | Can you hear me? |
| 00:45:42.93 | Unknown | Thank you. and |
| 00:45:43.57 | Vicki Nichols | Okay. Well, volume wise. Oh no, we were having... |
| 00:45:47.26 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:45:47.28 | Janelle Kellman | No, no, we were having... Thank you. You were- |
| 00:45:49.05 | Vicki Nichols | Is that better? I'll get closer. |
| 00:45:51.84 | Janelle Kellman | The reception was, it was going out. |
| 00:45:55.03 | Vicki Nichols | Right now. |
| 00:45:55.48 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:45:57.05 | Janelle Kellman | That's okay. So... Uh-oh. I think we lost her. Are you still there? Thank you. Okay, we lost Vicki, so what we're gonna do is, we're gonna move this We're gonna try to fix our technical issue and we're gonna move this then to the- Mayor, Vicki has returned She has? Yes, she's the co-writer. |
| 00:46:23.22 | Unknown | Oh great, okay. |
| 00:46:24.47 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, so, all right, Vicki, back to- Thank you. |
| 00:46:32.51 | Vicki Nichols | So I'll just say that I've lived here for, can you hear me now? Yes, yes, please go ahead. Yeah, I wanna, I think you're familiar with me. of working on the committee, as well as qualifying through my experience with the Soussillated Historical Society I've also done work with the county on Um, uh, sea level rise which ironically is going to happen in our downtown and we need to take into consideration we have historical building integrity to deal with down there. So that's a little segue that I'd like to work on. But primarily I want to get inventory done. Unless we get that done, we really don't know what we're dealing with here. And it's just fundamental to the ordinances that we helped and I helped work on um, over a period of four to six years that are in place. I have the I can hit the ground running and I'm really. |
| 00:47:38.07 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, I think we just Vicki just went on mute. Oh, there you go. I heard hit the ground running. |
| 00:47:44.88 | Vicki Nichols | Yeah. Well, I would like to work on the inventory. I know we actually were planning on that when I was on the, the board before and the council had funded it. We just got into a full snap. So I would love to reach that. It's gonna be benefit to the city. What a great asset. we have in our history here. |
| 00:48:12.64 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thank you. Does anybody have any follow-up? Okay? All right, then we're going to close the interviews and we're going to vote. So does anybody want to rotate or just want me to start off again? I'll just go ahead and start. Okay. Thank you to everybody who's interviewed. And I would uh, Thank you. My vote is for Vicki Nichols. |
| 00:48:36.57 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:48:36.62 | Heidi Scoble | MAGIC. |
| 00:48:36.69 | Unknown | MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOING TO |
| 00:48:36.98 | Heidi Scoble | you're not going to be |
| 00:48:37.04 | Unknown | Sure. |
| 00:48:37.65 | Heidi Scoble | your version. |
| 00:48:38.19 | Unknown | I'm starting for 5 out of 6. |
| 00:48:40.03 | Heidi Scoble | Thanks. people. |
| 00:48:41.53 | Janelle Kellman | Oh, I'm sorry. I'm voting for the vote. the, uh, I want to say they're not incumbents, but the current, so Nathaniel Berkowitz, Bill Warner, David Newman, Angela Wildman. and Vicki Nichols. But American. |
| 00:48:58.95 | Jill Hoffman | Just call on us and we'll go around in that fashion room. |
| 00:49:00.58 | Ian Sobieski | I'm sorry, and can I just ask a question? Why are we voting for not the additional vacant share? Are the terms being renewed for the current incumbents or what's going on with that? |
| 00:49:13.24 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, so if they're not on this list, but you know they're on the Planning Commission, that means they still have time left in their terms? These guys are all getting turned out this year. So that's why we're voting on them. |
| 00:49:24.24 | Ian Sobieski | So their term is being extended, the four incumbents? |
| 00:49:28.14 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:49:28.16 | Janelle Kellman | It's a second term. Yeah. Yeah. I think Heidi explained it in the staff report. So if they've already done one first term, then we'd be voting for them to have a second term. |
| 00:49:32.01 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:49:32.04 | Janelle Kellman | I'm just wondering. |
| 00:49:40.56 | Janelle Kellman | down. Yeah. |
| 00:49:41.72 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:49:41.81 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:49:41.83 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:49:41.95 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:49:43.26 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, just to provide a clarification for Chair Newman, Chair Newman was appointed to fill a remainder term. So although this would be a reappointment for his third term, I believe he still has two more years left to reach his six-year total term limit. |
| 00:50:00.10 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 00:50:00.12 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:50:00.14 | Heidi Scoble | Okay. |
| 00:50:02.77 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, does that answer your question? |
| 00:50:04.22 | Ian Sobieski | Yes, thank you. |
| 00:50:05.79 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. Okay, so let's go back. My votes were for Nathaniel Berkowitz, Bill Warner, David Newman, Angela Wildman, and Vicki Nichols. Thank you. |
| 00:50:17.32 | Jill Hoffman | want to talk about. |
| 00:50:17.57 | Janelle Kellman | Just call in. |
| 00:50:17.80 | Jill Hoffman | and I'll see you next time. |
| 00:50:19.59 | Janelle Kellman | Vice mayor. |
| 00:50:19.64 | Jill Hoffman | voice mares. Sure. My selection is the same five, Berkowitz, Werner, Newman, Wildman, and Nichols. Thank you. |
| 00:50:28.23 | Janelle Kellman | My should you want me to go? |
| 00:50:30.36 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, let's just go in the same order unless somebody has a Okay. |
| 00:50:33.18 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, so mine are the same, excluding Nathaniel Berkowitz and adding Michael Brand bulb. Okay. |
| 00:50:44.62 | Janelle Kellman | Go ahead. |
| 00:50:44.65 | Melissa Blaustein | THE FAMILY. THE FAMILY. |
| 00:50:44.82 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:50:44.97 | Melissa Blaustein | Bye. I want some air blasting. Thanks, Mainor. Berkowitz, Werner, Newman, Wildman, Nichols. |
| 00:50:55.40 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, and Councilmember Sobieski? |
| 00:50:57.24 | Ian Sobieski | Newman Wildman Berkowitz. Werner and Vicki Nichols. |
| 00:51:02.89 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thank you. So, Madam clerk, do you want to announce the |
| 00:51:09.22 | Heidi Scoble | appointment. |
| 00:51:09.26 | Janelle Kellman | important. |
| 00:51:10.30 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, the appointments to the Historic Preservation Commission would be Nathaniel Berkowitz with a 4-1 vote. Phil Werner with a 5-0 vote. David Newman with a five zero vote, Angela Waldman with a five, No, 5-0 vote, excuse me. Um, and Vicki Nichols. with a 5-0 vote. Okay, thank you. |
| 00:51:33.74 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, again, thanks to everybody who applied and thanks to the people I'm going to go ahead and get a we just interviewed. Okay, so moving on, Library Board of Trustees. |
| 00:51:47.97 | Janelle Kellman | And so we're just interviewing one person, Jennifer Genari for the 94965 liaison. And we're not, we're not, we're not interviewing, Judy Ann. And I'm not saying that right, I know. because she's already on that board. Okay. Okay. Oh, hi Jennifer, how are you? Welcome. Um, Okay, so we're asking the same questions. of everybody and please introduce yourself How long have you lived in Sausalito? Tell us about yourself and your interest in the committee. what would you consider your greatest asset or strength that would positively contribute to the committee? |
| 00:52:32.82 | Jennifer Genari | I thank you council members for having me here tonight. I'm Jen Jennery. I am a children's book author and I have lived here in Sausalito since 2010. Prior to that, I actually lived in Novato since 1999. And I just want to add a little tidbit that I served on the PTA quite a bit then, including organizing book fairs. I have a lifelong passion for books. You can see my bookcase right there behind me. And that is not a screensaver. and I am a very organized I have a strong passion for books. You can see my bookcase right there behind me. And that is not a screensaver. And I am a very organized and also a consensus builder. And so I really would love to participate in the Sausalito board meetings. I know I'm a liaison and will not have a vote, but I think it's important to connect with the houseboat community and others in this area. and I think that's a part of town in terms of reaching out with the library and making sure that our needs are met as well. |
| 00:53:28.29 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thank you. You're welcome. Yes, anybody have a follow-up question? I don't either, Jen, you did an excellent interview. Oh yes, council member. |
| 00:53:38.68 | Janelle Kellman | with the |
| 00:53:38.75 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:53:39.38 | Janelle Kellman | Oh, no, sorry, I was just scratching my ear, but I am really happy to see Jen here tonight and wanna thank her for applying. |
| 00:53:45.08 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:53:46.87 | Janelle Kellman | that. Thank you. |
| 00:53:47.63 | Janelle Kellman | OK. |
| 00:53:47.98 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:53:48.35 | Janelle Kellman | Yes. |
| 00:53:49.52 | Janelle Kellman | You did an excellent job, Jen. And so since there's no follow-ups, I'm going to close. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. Okay, so if anybody wants to mix it up on votes, I'm happy to, but I'll just launch in. Watch it. Okay. I vote for Judy and Aynan for another term and Jen Jenari as our 9496 nut. 94965 liaison. I didn't know for me as well. Agreed. Agreed. |
| 00:54:24.53 | Ian Sobieski | And in engineering as well, thank you. |
| 00:54:26.74 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thank you. Very good. So I think I know what the vote is on that one. So I'll just announce it. Congratulations to Judy Ann and Jennifer. Welcome to the library board. Okay, so now we're moving on to parks and rec. Um, So we're voting on one voting member for Parks and Rec And we're selecting one alternate for Parks and Rec. And, I- Let's see, I will note that And, and Lee withdrew and as did. America. And |
| 00:55:08.71 | Janelle Kellman | Emmett Giesel, who had applied for Planning Commission has withdrawn from Planning Commission and yet indicated that he wants to be considered Parks and Rec. And so under, because he had already applied and we had his his information, we can move him over according to our clerk and our city attorney who addressed that. So is that your understanding, Madam Clerk? |
| 00:55:41.03 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, that is correct. |
| 00:55:42.80 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:55:42.88 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 00:55:43.04 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:55:43.58 | Heidi Scoble | Okay, so that's... All the applicants have been given co-host functions so they can all share their video and unmute themselves. I would like to point out that applicant Katrina Andino, I do not... but she may have a different name. So Katrina and Dino, if you are here, could you raise your hand? in the Zoom function so I can see where you are and assign you co-host functions. |
| 00:56:15.11 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, I'm not seeing Katrina and Dino here. |
| 00:56:18.39 | Janelle Kellman | Okay? Alright, we'll just press on and then if Somebody pops in or we get some information, we'll figure that out. as we're going. Okay, so good evening and welcome to everybody who's on the call. So I see that we have Michael Brandvold, we have Mary Faust, I hope I'm saying that right, and we have Virginia Irwin. And Do we have Emmett on? Oh, yeah, there's Emma Ezell. I see him down there, Heidi. Or I see somebody named Emmett. Do you see him on your screen? |
| 00:57:01.37 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, I have given functions to Emmett Okay. Thanks. |
| 00:57:08.59 | Janelle Kellman | There you go. Hi Emmett. |
| 00:57:09.76 | Emmett Giesel | Oh, right. God, my Hollywood career has started. |
| 00:57:14.68 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, so... Here's the deal. I'm going to, uh, I'm going to ask you guys, Two questions. Please introduce, please, and we'll just, I'm just going to randomly call on somebody to, we'll just rotate through the for you. Um, introduce yourself how long have you lived in Sausalito and tell us about yourself and your interest in the committee and then tell us what you would consider your greatest asset that would positively contribute to the committee. I'm going to Um, I'm gonna call actually on Michael first because we've interviewed him twice for another two other positions. Um, I think this will be the he'll have the soft entry on this one because all he'll need to do is answer the second part. So go ahead. Go ahead, Michael. |
| 00:58:00.25 | Michael Brandvold | Thank you. So my interest here, as I alluded to earlier is, I have a seven year old daughter and parks and recreation are incredibly important to us and everything we do with her. And I just wanna be able to take part in what I can do to help the community and every other person out there who takes part and uses the parks and recs throughout the city. I think my passion is probably my strength. You know, I just... I want to help it. I want to help parks and rec. I just spend a lot of time there. We've got nicknames for all the parks. |
| 00:58:42.20 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thank you. Okay, so in no particular order, Mary Faust. |
| 00:58:53.50 | Mary Faust | Hi, I'm Mary Faust. Oh, sorry. Sorry, welcome. Most people get it wrong. I've lived in Sausalito for 23 years and you probably don't even recognize me because I've been kind of this silent advocate of the city. but I'm a very strong advocate of this city. I'm now in a situation where I had been working for many, many hours. I'm semi-retired. I have participated in almost pretty much every event in the city. I went to the Jazz by the Bay, I actually hired the band to play at my wedding. I, um, I'm an avid tennis player. I've taken many lessons. I'm also a big supporter of historical society for something else. And maybe I should have joined that because I write a lot of checks for them. I have supported the Varda. I have supported the book writing of John Varda. So I've been kind of the silent partner of Sausalito, too busy to join a commit I'm So impressed with Dumpy Park. Just love it. Glad that we're doing that. Obviously I'm a big supporter of South Park because it's right down the street from me. And that's where I first started playing tennis about 10 years ago. And now, um, So I have a lot of resources. So why hire me for the committee? I'm very connected. I have a lot of resources. I think I can bring a lot to the community. I have a lot of ideas about you know, more movie nights, more kid events, more, Just whatever we can do once we get through this COVID situation of adding entertainment and keeping the parks clean, you know, that's really important to me. and following up on servicing to the parks. So, you know, I think that's what I bring to the table. I'm a very successful business woman and I'm willing to stop being so successful at business and trying to be successful at Sausalito. |
| 01:00:54.97 | Janelle Kellman | Thanks very much. Okay. Peace out. |
| 01:01:00.52 | Emmett Giesel | Good evening. My name is Emmett Yazell. And I live here. I walk Sausalito frequently. Mostly after dinner. or early in the morning on weekends. from the docks to the radio station. I know this town. I've been here. all my life. Um, Recently, I felt I ought to give something back. and This is the town I grew up in. I went to grade school here. You mentioned South Park. I went to kindergarten there when there was a school. Oh. I know this city. So did my father. grandmother, and great-grandparents. This is a city that's given me a lot and I get kind of casual about it, but I'm serious. It's given me more memories than most of you have in total memory. Um, Parks have fences, boundaries, and names. One of the things that I'm aware of And that's from walking the city in the evening all my life, not just in the evening, but walking the city. I'm serious. is a part. Forget the parks. The city is a park. If you walk around Sausalito, And you look around. and you pass apart. Yeah. I laugh all the time. I said, why is this a park? Why isn't the whole darn thing? and it really is. because if you really do walk Sausalito, you know just what I'm talking about. I know the waterfront. very well. I mean, I know the players intimately. And I think that's a huge asset to Sausalito. |
| 01:02:49.53 | Unknown | INTIMATE. |
| 01:02:56.61 | Emmett Giesel | And we should be very careful with it. because we don't get it back. Once you lose it, It's gone. It's like everything else. I'm interested in the parks and recs department because they play a big part in this they organize all these parks, but they also Oh, I think maybe could educate people a little more on what we already have. That's all I have to say. And if you have any questions for me, Please. Some of you I already know. |
| 01:03:31.49 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. And moving on then to Virginia Irwin. |
| 01:03:41.17 | Emmett Giesel | I think. |
| 01:03:42.66 | Virginia Irwin | Hi, good evening. Good evening, everyone. Nice to see everyone. I'm Virginia Irwin, I go by Ginny and I am a native Marinite. I moved to Sausalito about six years ago. And at first I didn't really like Sausalito because I thought it was cold and foggy. coming from Nevada where I was born and I've fallen in love with Sausalito. Now it's like, I can't wait to get to the cool weather. coming from Novato or Corte Madera. I recently joined Age Friendly Task Force here in Sausalito. So Sausalito is an age friendly city with Sybil Boutier and some other wonderful people, which I'm sure everybody knows. And I am working to integrate a walkable usable, friendly Sausalito for, especially for our older folks And Sybil actually suggested that I look at Parks and Rec to see if how I can enhance the opportunities of using our parks, as Emmett had mentioned earlier. I, when I first was getting involved in big parks, I was on the, it was called Friends of the Parks of Point Reyes Station. and Point Reyes National Seashore. And I was on their task force and we created a Friends of the Park where we created events. I was on the event planning committee and we did where we would have people come in and do little challenges, like how many new trails can you try in you know, 30 days or 60 days. And we'd give, you know, little gold stars or little prizes. It was very sweet, and I often think when I walk through town, Wouldn't it be great if we could have some kind of, I don't know, afternoon music, maybe some local musicians here in Sausalito at Dunphy Park? and have people come out and enjoy the park that way. We just built, well, not me, but I say we as in Sausalito, we put in our age-friendly exercise facility at MLK. And I've gone over there a couple times and I've noticed some of the equipment is a little squeaky because I'm also a health and fitness professional. So I've been in health and fitness for over 25 years now. and I've emailed Mike about that. And I'm thinking, oh, you know, the placards have already worn down. and Just again, informing people what we have, creating events to get people out into the parks, enjoy them, keep them safe. Um, I work out in parks. I don't go to a traditional gym. So frequently you'll see me doing chin-ups here or pull-ups there. And I've had clients or neighbors say, oh my God, I didn't know I could do that over here. Um, and creating that atmosphere of, you know, come on in, give our park a try in our neighborhood up here on the hill which I've learned that's what they call this area. We have some very small little parks and I never see anybody, you know. And I was saying to Emmett the other day, we need to get in there and promote these parks and just get people out of their TV rooms and off of their computers and and just create opportunities for people to go and use our parks and discover them And I would just, you know, really love to support Sausalito as much as I can. That's, I think that's about it. Thank you. |
| 01:07:22.98 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:07:23.25 | Virginia Irwin | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:07:23.77 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, thank you very much. Does anybody have any follow-up questions for anybody? Any council members? How many follow-up questions? Okay, I'm not seeing any. And so then I want to thank all of our people who have just applied. And we, unfortunately we only have |
| 01:07:42.18 | Ian Sobieski | Mayor, I have a question for you. |
| 01:07:42.60 | Janelle Kellman | Hello. THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:07:45.71 | Ian Sobieski | I was just wondering if it is possible to increase the size of the Parks and Rec Commission. |
| 01:07:51.50 | Janelle Kellman | We could, but not tonight. And so that's definitely something that we might want to look at in the future. |
| 01:07:57.27 | Ian Sobieski | My two cents is as the liaison to Parks and Rec along with Melissa Blaustein. There's a lot there to be done much on the model of EDAC. It can be a working committee with |
| 01:08:02.77 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:08:09.74 | Ian Sobieski | lots of work to be done. for something for everyone to consider potential future expansion could soak up some of the volunteer energy |
| 01:08:19.32 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, but this is what I always tell people when we interview them, right? Just because you're not selected doesn't mean that you can't participate, that we can't assign you a job, that you can't come to the meetings? You just wouldn't be voting. And so we will, if you're not selected tonight, based on what I just heard, I can almost guarantee that someone will be reaching out to you to see if you want to become involved or on a particular project. Okay. Unless somebody unless one of the council members wants to do this differently. I'm just going to quickly go down and give my. Everybody? No objection? Okay. So my two picks are for the voting member. I would vote for Michael Brandvold and for the alternate I would vote for, or I do vote. which Anyway, my two are voting member is Michael Brandvold and Second would be Jenny Irwin. Okay, vice mayor? Same. Um... |
| 01:09:18.03 | Janelle Kellman | Councilman of Cleveland Knowles. I would choose Jenny or one for the member and Mary Faust for the alternate. |
| 01:09:26.47 | Janelle Kellman | you |
| 01:09:26.70 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 01:09:26.96 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:09:27.45 | Janelle Kellman | Councilman Blasti? |
| 01:09:29.66 | Melissa Blaustein | I would choose. Jenny Irwin. And |
| 01:09:33.13 | Janelle Kellman | Mary Faust. |
| 01:09:33.89 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 01:09:34.43 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. Councilmember Sobieski. |
| 01:09:37.12 | Ian Sobieski | I choose Baust and Brandwolf. |
| 01:09:40.07 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. My math indicates in Madam Clerk, you can confirm. that it's Michael Brandvold and Ginny Irwin. And the House had three votes. Hold on. |
| 01:09:55.70 | Heidi Scoble | Yes, Madam Mayor, that's correct. There is a tie for Michael Branville and a tie for Mary Faust. |
| 01:10:01.38 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, so who was our top boat getter? Virginia, Ginny Irwin. Okay, so Ginny Irwin is our Ginny Irwin is our voting member because she got the most votes. So then we have a tie. This is very exciting. We have Michael Branful. And Mary Faust, congratulations. the two of you. And so Do we want to vote again or we want to flip coin? Mm-hmm. They would. |
| 01:10:31.98 | Jill Hoffman | I have to vote again. |
| 01:10:33.07 | Janelle Kellman | Vote again. Okay, vote again. |
| 01:10:34.69 | Jill Hoffman | Very difficult. |
| 01:10:37.11 | Unknown | I mean, great lineup. Very, very difficult. Like to expand the size of the park and rec. Let's talk about that because this is |
| 01:10:45.12 | Janelle Kellman | This is- |
| 01:10:46.20 | Unknown | Lots of talent. |
| 01:10:47.48 | Janelle Kellman | But let me just say, even if you don't get the vote, |
| 01:10:47.52 | Unknown | This is really cool. |
| 01:10:50.32 | Janelle Kellman | There's nothing to prevent you from becoming involved and going to the meetings anyway and serving on the committees. And you know, so. Okay, so I'm gonna start off again, Michael Bramble, Oh. |
| 01:11:02.98 | Jill Hoffman | I will change my vote to |
| 01:11:06.28 | Janelle Kellman | Mary Faust. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:11:08.49 | Jill Hoffman | Mary Faust. |
| 01:11:08.70 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:11:09.27 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 01:11:09.61 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:11:09.62 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 01:11:09.66 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:11:09.78 | Melissa Blaustein | it. |
| 01:11:09.93 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:11:09.95 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:11:11.94 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 01:11:12.04 | Janelle Kellman | or Sobieski. |
| 01:11:13.10 | Ian Sobieski | uh, Just to make it close, I'll go with Branvold. |
| 01:11:17.44 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 01:11:18.30 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you both, though. I'm not sure. |
| 01:11:20.71 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah. |
| 01:11:20.75 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:11:21.32 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. So, but. |
| 01:11:22.97 | Janelle Kellman | I'm going to go. |
| 01:11:22.99 | Janelle Kellman | THANK YOU, EVERYONE. |
| 01:11:23.28 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:11:23.77 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, so Michael Brandvold, even though you're not, So, you're still going to be involved in Parks and Rec, right? Thank you to everybody. In fact, everybody to the extent that you want to be involved, I'm betting you're going |
| 01:11:37.03 | Jill Hoffman | Mayor Hoffman, would it be okay to start? for the sake of clarity to just say to the public, I think there is an interest from the council in looking at the size of this company. Please don't screen your calls. |
| 01:11:50.02 | Melissa Blaustein | calling. Also, Thank you. . I'm completely disinterested from the Planning Commission now that you, I just wanna clarify. |
| 01:11:58.61 | Emmett Giesel | It's a time factor. Jill, it's a time factor for me. I work every day. |
| 01:12:00.67 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 01:12:04.55 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, so let's move on. Thank you so much for that. |
| 01:12:07.07 | Emmett Giesel | Thank you very much. Thank you. |
| 01:12:08.27 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you, thank you, thank you, Jenny. Thank you, Mary. |
| 01:12:11.20 | Emmett Giesel | Thank you. |
| 01:12:13.18 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. So We're moving on. Our next is back in. |
| 01:12:17.28 | Unknown | Sorry. |
| 01:12:17.68 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. |
| 01:12:21.02 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, our next is Pedestrian and Bicycle Advisory Committee. And we are We have one reappointment incumbent, so we're not interviewing. His name is Aaron Roller. And then we have a 94965 liaison. opening and that is one interview with I believe Caliero is how you pronounce that. Yeah, that's right. Okay. All right. Sandra, so welcome. Thank you for your application. Um, Okay, so please introduce yourself, how long you've lived in Sausalito and tell us about yourself and your interest in the Pedestrian and Bicycle Advisory Committee. and what you would consider is your greatest strength or asset that would positively contribute to the committee. |
| 01:13:14.23 | Sandra Caballero | you so much um my name is sandra caballero i have lived in south salito for the last year so not very long In terms of why I'm choosing to apply for this, Um, Partly because this is what I do for a living. I am a transportation urban planner. Um, trained professionally as an urban planner and as a community planner so I've done a lot of transportation style type work. Um, And I currently work for an international org that does global transportation planning. But more specifically, I'm choosing to do this because I am primarily a cyclist. I don't own a vehicle. I get around via my bicycle and via public transit and as a pedestrian. And I would love to make South Sabrito a more welcoming place in terms of its infrastructure and in terms of its educational signaging, in terms of its social infrastructure to make it welcoming for pedestrians and cyclists. And it's such a small space. But there's areas that are that need a lot of improvement. Even the idea of being a liaison between the core of South Salito and then its appendages, the Waldo Point, Marin City. There's so much opportunity to make it more of a welcoming space through pedestrian and |
| 01:14:46.72 | Unknown | through |
| 01:14:49.14 | Sandra Caballero | So that's what I'm applying today and I think in there for my strengths. |
| 01:14:55.14 | Janelle Kellman | I'm sorry. |
| 01:14:55.21 | Sandra Caballero | Okay. |
| 01:14:55.28 | Janelle Kellman | you |
| 01:14:55.45 | Sandra Caballero | Thank you. |
| 01:14:55.55 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:14:55.60 | Sandra Caballero | Thank you. |
| 01:14:55.97 | Janelle Kellman | Does anybody have, yes, Council Member Cleveland Knowles. |
| 01:14:59.33 | Janelle Kellman | Hi Sandra, thank you so much for being here tonight. I'm just very interested in how you found out about this position. I think we are really excited to have liaisons from the 94965 broader area that you just talked about. And I think we can also do better in advertising and outreach. So could you just tell us how you learned about this and your expertise is quite stunning. So happy that you applied. |
| 01:15:28.34 | Sandra Caballero | I I'm trying to be involved in the cities I live in. So in Oakland, I was involved in the rollout of the slow streets movement, so volunteering there. And here I signed up for your newsletter And so I saw it on your that's what letter. |
| 01:15:45.99 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:15:46.00 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:15:46.07 | Sandra Caballero | All right. |
| 01:15:46.44 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:15:46.95 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. Thank you. Okay, any other follow-up questions? Okay, then I will close it for our vote and I'll go first. I vote that we reappoint Andrew Roller. the incumbent and that we select Sandro Caballero for our 94965 liaison. Wholeheartedly, yes. |
| 01:16:07.76 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you, Sandra, for applying |
| 01:16:10.79 | Janelle Kellman | I would echo that except it's Aaron Roller, but. Absolutely. out. |
| 01:16:14.45 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. I'm sorry. |
| 01:16:15.99 | Janelle Kellman | That's okay. But yes, Aaron Roller and Sandra Caballero. Thank you. |
| 01:16:21.53 | Melissa Blaustein | Erin Roller and Sandra Caballero. Sandra, thank you for applying. |
| 01:16:26.88 | Ian Sobieski | . |
| 01:16:29.02 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thank you. Okay, so that passes and so Aaron Roller is ready. reappointed and Sandra Cagliaro as our 94965 liaison. Okay, moving on, Planning Commission. So we have one incumbent, Richard Graff, and we have one Um, We have one applicant, Andrew Junius, and we have, we select two. So, Um, we're not going to interview Richard because he's the incumbent, but we're going to interview Andrew. Welcome, Andrew. |
| 01:17:05.91 | Andrew Junius | Great to see everybody, Madam Mayor, Council members, happy to be here and thank you for your time. |
| 01:17:10.73 | Janelle Kellman | Nice to see you. So we asked you two questions and I'm combining into one. Um, To introduce yourself, how long you've lived in Sausalito, tell us about yourself and your interest in the committee and then what would you consider your greatest strength or asset that would positively contribute to the committee, in this case, planning commission. Sure. |
| 01:17:30.02 | Andrew Junius | So actually I moved to the Bay Area in San Francisco in 1988. I got my law degree in 1991, and I never thought I'd leave the city, frankly, but in 2013, My wife and I started looking outside the city and we've been living between San Francisco and Sausalito for about seven years Last year we decided to stay. For a lot of different reasons. and we're very happy here. We love South Salido. We're gonna make this our permanent home. We're here to stay, but I feel like I've been associated with the community and living in the city and understanding what Sausalito is and who we are here for the last seven years. just, you know, Love it, love to be here and would be excited to serve Um, Yet I've been a land use attorney and a real estate attorney for the coming 30 years essentially. I've been appearing before. city councils and boards of supervisors and planning commissions on the private side decades. And I think that's probably my greatest strength is I really know the planning process well. There'd be no learning curve here. I think I bring in a lot of experience and understanding of how it city government works, how planning commissions work, I'm not sure. It frankly from both sides, because just when you're an advocate like I am on the private side, You certainly understand what property owners and developers want. but you also need to completely understand what the city and what the city does and how to mesh those worlds together and so I really enjoyed doing that for the last 30 years and It would be a great honor to serve the city of Sausalito on the planning machine. |
| 01:19:03.49 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thank you. Thanks very much. Anybody have a follow up for Andrew? Nope. Okay. So I'm going to close it and we're going to, uh, for a vote. And I would, uh, vote for Richard Graff for another term and Andrew as our new appointee. |
| 01:19:22.09 | Jill Hoffman | I will echo that and Andrew, thank you for diving in and interviewing tonight. We're pleased to have you. So Graf returning and Junius being added. |
| 01:19:33.02 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you, I vote the same. You know, it's interesting, usually when we do these appointments, we also accept the resignations or, you know, have a chance to, I just wanna thank Morgan Pierce. This is the, position, unfortunately, that he's termed out. And maybe we can, at our next meeting, also recognize him, but he's really given so much expertise. And it's amazing that we've got Andrew Junius stepping in, um, at this moment because I think he'll do a great job filling those very big shoes. So thank you, Andrew. |
| 01:20:08.09 | Andrew Junius | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:20:09.78 | Janelle Kellman | Bye. |
| 01:20:10.03 | Melissa Blaustein | Councilmember Blasting? |
| 01:20:11.11 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:20:11.62 | Melissa Blaustein | Yes, I would vote for Richard Grape for another term. And Andrew Junius, thank you for joining us. I'm lucky that we have someone with your expertise signing up and I would echo Councilmember Cleveland Knowles comments about Morgan Pierce and all that he's given to the planning commission as well over the years. |
| 01:20:29.82 | Ian Sobieski | Appreciate that. Thank you. I will say ditto to everything that was said before. Um, Thank you. |
| 01:20:37.79 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:20:38.80 | Ian Sobieski | Great. |
| 01:20:40.07 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. Thank you, Andrew. Congratulations. |
| 01:20:41.99 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:20:42.02 | Andrew Junius | Thank you much. |
| 01:20:43.76 | Janelle Kellman | And moving on to our next, um, We have sustainability commissions. So we're gonna select four voting members. and one alternate. And we have two returning members and we have three applicants that we're going to interview this evening. Andrew, Cornelia Jeremy Lewis and Sabine Kulterman. |
| 01:21:10.17 | Heidi Scoble | I'm not a mayor. Andrew and Jeremy Lewis have been given co-host functions. Swen Kult-Turban is not in this meeting at the moment. |
| 01:21:19.34 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. Okay, well let me know if you... Is there anybody that has like a Oh, hold on. Yeah, if there's anybody that has like a phone number You know, sometimes, anyway, if you want to raise your hand and your spin, let me know. Let us know. Otherwise we'll go ahead and just get started with Andrew and with Jeremy. Welcome guys. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for your application. So we're going to go to the next slide. I'm going to, uh, ask you to please introduce yourself. how long you've lived in Sausalito. Tell us about yourself and your interest in the committee and what would you consider is your greatest or asset that would contribute to the committee. Why don't we start with Andrew in no particular order. And then Jeremy will go to you. |
| 01:22:10.06 | Andrew Cornelia | Madam Mayor, thanks for having me and the rest of the city council. Thank you as well. Andrew Cornelia and Fossilito for only about six months, but I've been in the Bay for about 10 years now. Um, I think probably my Interest in the committee is probably aligned with my greatest asset. I'm definitely a self-proclaimed energy nerd. I've been in the energy space for about eight years, working on climate crisis and the energy transition. Majority of my career was spent with Tesla. I've worked across the operations, finance, and strategy teams. early on when it was actually just a car company and then helping stand up the battery business and also with the acquisition and merger of SolarCity. My bread and butter there was actually always global charging. So I helped grow both the supercharger business as well as the destination charging business, both in the U S and internationally. For the last two years I have been the chief of staff for a company called Volta Charging, where I'm also the VP and head of corporate strategy and development. So I think my expertise and what I bring to the Commission is really an interesting and commercial angle to how a city like Fossilito bridges the divide between traditional fossil fuel energy as well as the future for sustainable energy. So definitely a diehard vehicle and transportation person, but also sustainable batteries, solar, energy generation, energy storage. So excited to be part of the conversation and appreciate the time. |
| 01:23:44.44 | Janelle Kellman | Thanks, Andrew. Go ahead, Jeremy. |
| 01:23:47.62 | Jeremy Lewis | Hello, my name is Jeremy Lewis. I've been in Sausalito going on five years now in May. Um... I love the community and I know quite a bit of people here. Um, My interest in the sustainability commission I came from my education actually. I am in my junior year of college. and my My degree will be in environmental policy. So I would love to get involved in the conversation. And I would also feel that being I have something to contribute there. with the younger mindset. to reach. that's not going to be able to do it. that other people can not. Um, And so Yeah, I would love to. I'd love to have the opportunity to do so. |
| 01:24:37.04 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. |
| 01:24:37.11 | Jeremy Lewis | Okay. |
| 01:24:38.01 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, thank you. Do we have any follow up questions from the Council? No, okay. So I'm gonna, and Madam clerk, we don't see anything of Mr. Colterman. |
| 01:24:50.38 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, that's correct. Mr. Colterman is not attending the meeting at this time. |
| 01:24:54.54 | Janelle Kellman | OKAY. Okay, so let's close it. My votes are for Greg Thompson and Ting Lee as our incumbents and then Andrew. Cornelia and Jeremy Lewis. as are two new voting members. |
| 01:25:13.63 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor before you conduct your vote, I would like to identify that the Commission currently does have an alternate member. His name is David Cooper and that alternate member is eligible for appointment to a full voting member. So I just wanted to bring that to your attention in case you potentially wanted to move up the alternate and which would then create an additional full term member and then an alternate. |
| 01:25:42.42 | Janelle Kellman | Council member Blaustein, she's our sustainability liaison. Does that sound appropriate to you? to you council member. |
| 01:25:51.16 | Melissa Blaustein | David if he was interested in being moved to voting member, but that's what we've traditionally done, or we've used the voting member position as folks have less availability They switched to alternate for a while, so I don't know what they've been, I know the alternate often votes because that's, so it's a very still, it's still a good opportunity to engage. So perhaps since Sven isn't here, but I would have liked to have asked David what he would prefer to do. |
| 01:26:19.41 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, so then, so, So then my vote stays. So we would, we still have So I'm voting Greg and Ting and Andrew and Jeremy, and then David will remain as the alternate. Okay. |
| 01:26:32.98 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. Karen Hollweg, agreed i'm reappointing right Thompson tingly and delighted to add Andrew cornelia in Jeremy, thank you both for playing. |
| 01:26:42.58 | Janelle Kellman | Yes, Councilmember Cleveland Knowles. Yep. |
| 01:26:45.02 | Janelle Kellman | That sounds good. |
| 01:26:47.05 | Melissa Blaustein | Very excited to have Greg Thompson and Ting Lee continue their terms and happy to see more new faces on our sustainability commission, which is doing such great work. So thank you, Andrew and Jeremy for applying in the same vote. |
| 01:27:02.39 | Janelle Kellman | Mayor, could I just ask perhaps that if we are filling positions in the future that if the clerk has availability that we could ask the alternate if they have any interest in moving up or moving in whatever the direction is? |
| 01:27:16.90 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:27:20.58 | Janelle Kellman | Yep, that's a great idea. Okay, Council Member Sobieski has not voted yet. So. Oh, I'm sorry. |
| 01:27:22.64 | Janelle Kellman | that would be helpful. |
| 01:27:24.98 | Ian Sobieski | Oh, I'm sorry. That's okay. Thompson and Lee and Lewis and Cornelia. |
| 01:27:26.59 | Janelle Kellman | Yes, sir. |
| 01:27:31.19 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, very good. So we're finished with that vote. Congratulations, fellas. I'm also delighted to have this talent. It's awesome. Okay, so now we're moving on to interviews for EDAC. We're going to ask the same Well, we're going to ask different questions for EDAC. The two questions well proposed. Um, Hold on a second. Thank you. |
| 01:27:58.92 | Jill Hoffman | And Madam Mayor, I believe also a few folks have either that we're going to have Like John Barbera has withdrawn Maybe the city clerk can just run through the changes to this lineup that you had emailed us. |
| 01:28:11.85 | Heidi Scoble | Yes, John Barbera has withdrawn his application. So group one will consist of Harid Najibi, Scott Thornburg, Carolyn Korda, Angela Johan, And John Duret? We're just slowly adding. the attendees to the meeting. I'm not seeing Carolyn Corda or Angela Johansson. um, or John DeRay. So if you can raise your hand in the Zoom function and let me know Susan Avril, you'll be in group two, so we'll be interviewing you in a bit. Um, So, Okay, great. Um, We have a DS, which I'm going to make as a co-host. So DS is there. And again, is there Angela Johansson? |
| 01:29:09.07 | Heidi Scoble | It doesn't, it does not look like we have Caroline Korda or Angela Johansson. Again, if you are Angela Johansson or Caroline Korda, please raise your hand in the Zoom function. |
| 01:29:19.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:29:21.74 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. Um, okay. So let's, So I think because of our time, we have a bit of a time crunch. because of our technical difficulty at the beginning and then our conversation amongst the council members. So Um, These are the three questions that I was, that we're going to ask each of the same questions we're going to ask everybody. Okay. Collapse them into one question. But, um... I'm not going to be a I'm thinking about setting a time limit for the responses. How does everybody feel about that? Maybe a two or three minute time limit? That's a good idea. Anybody, everybody okay with that? The council members have any problem with that? |
| 01:30:12.05 | Melissa Blaustein | No, I just wanted to say Angela Johansson just texted me because I asked where she was put and she didn't have notice. So I'm sending her the link now. So she may join, but I'm fine with the limit. |
| 01:30:21.29 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:30:22.17 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay. |
| 01:30:22.91 | Janelle Kellman | Thanks for doing that. The only, I'm okay with the limit. I think that's a good idea. The only thing I would add is that when we did our original applications, I thought asking the questions in sequence was really interesting because people could play off of the answers that they heard from each other really generated a great conversation. Okay. So maybe if you could collapse two of the questions and leave a second one. Okay. |
| 01:30:50.03 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah. Okay. So here's our three questions. um In one minute or less, please describe why you think it is important for a city to have an economic development advisory committee. And In one minute or less, what would you consider is your greatest strength or asset that would positively contribute? And in closing remarks, please discuss what success looks like in five to ten years. So okay, so that's So this is, I think I will. |
| 01:31:25.81 | Janelle Kellman | So I'm just going to collapse the first two into one. In other words, why is EDAC important? And what's your strength for EDAC? And then we'll just go, you know, we'll just round robin it. You guys can each just go through and answer. And then we'll just do what does success look like in five to 10 years. So I don't. I don't think we're gonna set the two minute because that would give everybody like four minutes or something like that. I'm just going to ask. that you keep your answers succinct and if I need to clear my throat. I will. So, okay. I just, I think. I'm going to ask you to ask if you are any of the people we haven't seen yet, and you're in on some kind of different name or some kind of thing, raise your hand. Okay. Do we have, so we have on the line right now, we're going to talk to Farid Najabi, we're going to talk to Scott Thornburg and we're going to talk to John DeRay, right? Everybody? I believe that's correct. Okay. Okay, got it. Okay, done. Okay, so we're just gonna go. So we're gonna start because Mr. Najabi, because you're at the top of my list, |
| 01:32:45.10 | Jill Hoffman | You went on mute, Jill. I'm not sure why. |
| 01:32:48.38 | Janelle Kellman | I really apologize, that was me. I was trying to click my mute button. I'm so sorry, Jill. |
| 01:32:53.56 | Jill Hoffman | Bye. |
| 01:32:53.57 | Janelle Kellman | Bye. I mean, I have the ability to mute other council members. |
| 01:32:56.97 | Jill Hoffman | Bye. |
| 01:32:56.98 | Unknown | Oh! |
| 01:32:58.35 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:32:58.37 | Jill Hoffman | a whole new day. Councilmember Cleveland-Lowell has shown very good restraint if that's the case. I didn't know we had that. I did it by accident and I apologize. |
| 01:33:03.26 | Janelle Kellman | Exactly. |
| 01:33:05.93 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:33:06.48 | Janelle Kellman | You're very honest. Thank you for your honesty. Okay. So now that we got all that set. Thank you so much for joining us. Mr. Thornburg and Mr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Please describe why EDAC is important and what strength you bring to the table. |
| 01:33:25.15 | Farid Najabi | Thank you, council members. EDAC, I think, is more important today than it ever has been with the COVID situation. So anybody that's walked downtown recently knows that there's a severe situation going on with the economic viability and foot traffic and so on and so forth. So I think it's a perfect opportunity for a committee like EDAC to step up and try and come together and make some things happen. So definitely important for that reason. The strength that I bring is that I grew up on the 700 block of Bridgeway. I'm owner of Burlwood Gallery with my dad for 40 years and we're also property owners right there downtown. So I clearly have a vested interest in revitalizing downtown and bringing us back to the glory days, if you will. Where do I see it in five to 10 years? Hopefully November. |
| 01:34:17.63 | Janelle Kellman | Oh, wait, no, no. We're going to come back to that question, but thank you so much. Stepping ahead. Okay. So Scott, you're next. Go ahead. |
| 01:34:25.76 | Scott Thornburg | All right, thank you. Well, thanks for your time tonight. I'm Scott Thornberg. I work in public relations for Sojourn, which is a travel marketing company. I've been in Saucelita for four years. My partner and I moved here from San Francisco. We love it. We'd love to stay forever if we can find a house to afford. And we are, you know, we love the city and the longer I'm here, the more wonderful things that I learn and love about the city. So my, what I think about EDAC and why I think it's important, just like Fari had said, I think COVID recovery, you know, has hit everyone really hard. Being in the travel and tourism space, I know the global impact of travel that has on local communities. And I know that that has been, you know, has significantly hit Sausalito as well. So I think that's pretty clear. I think also outside of travel, there are residents that live here too, and we need to be building a community that we all want to live in for many years to come. And that starts by supporting local businesses and so on. |
| 01:35:27.91 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:35:29.18 | Scott Thornburg | My greatest strength that I bring to the table, I've been in PR for 10 years. I am new-ish to Sausalito. I've been here long enough to learn to love the city, but I still have some kind of outsider ideas, if you will, that I would love to bring to the table. As I mentioned, I work in travel and tourism and also started my career working in travel and tourism in another market. So I'm very familiar with that space and things that work for local communities. So appreciate your time. |
| 01:35:58.32 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. Mr. Duret, the question is why you think it's important for the city to have EDAC and what What strengths do you bring to the table? |
| 01:36:08.11 | John Duret | Thank you, Madam Mayor, and thank you everybody for doing this. |
| 01:36:09.04 | Janelle Kellman | Um, |
| 01:36:12.87 | John Duret | um So EDAC, I have been to just about every meeting I think it's very important obviously the challenges for the city going forward especially with COVID are tremendous and I think the more input we can get from different participants and more perspectives we can get I think the better it is. So this is a great mechanism to do that, to get the entire, well, a good part of the community involved in in work to direct a path forward that aligns with the city council vision In terms of my greatest strength, I think my background fits well. I have an undergrad degree in engineering, a master's degree in business. I served on the GPAC for about three years. Gave me a lot of experience with the city. I also spent MR GRIFFIN, I THINK almost several thousand hours in the Marine ship. getting to know all the people, getting to know the businesses, getting to know the maritime service providers. And I just feel like I have a very good understanding, both at a detailed level as well as a macro level of the of the businesses, of the maritime business, of the industrial business, and even of the artists as well. I got to know a lot of the artists as well. So I just think I have a good understanding of what's going on down there. And I think you need that in order to take the next steps forward. Thank you. |
| 01:37:45.02 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, thank you. Okay, this is the lightning round. in less than a minute discuss what success looks like in five to 10 years. And we'll go with the same order. |
| 01:37:58.18 | Farid Najabi | Thank you. I would really just say that, you know, filling up the spaces, getting the vibrancy back. I think this summer we'll get a little bit of local tourism and maybe domestic tourism back. I think we're looking at, you know, 2022, the summer of 2022, when we'll really see the global vibrancy come back and the international tourism. So it's going to take a few years at least to just kind of get to where we were before COVID. Five to 10 years down the road, I think we're looking at hopefully returning to where we were before and looking at quality establishments to, you know, really fill in the spaces. We don't want just anybody in Sausalito in the downtown area. And we also want to be able to include the locals in the community, make sure that they stay involved as they've been getting involved during COVID. I think it's very important if we can have the global community and the local community all involved, it's going to be gangbusters when we come out of all of this. |
| 01:39:00.72 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thank you. In less than a minute, Mr. Thornburg, What does success look like in five to 10 years? |
| 01:39:09.46 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. I think a couple of things, you know, when we think of tourism, we need the tourists to stay longer and spend more money to support local businesses. Right. So, you know, I think one way that we do that, the city's already made a fantastic investment in buying the Bank of America building downtown near the water. I would love to see that area become a, you know, similar to like the Ferry Building in San Francisco, where you have local artisans that are and that are you know, we have them maybe switching in and out all the time, testing new things, but but have that become a really dynamic space that invites and incents tourists to stay in the area. I think another thing too, we have a lot of vacant office buildings around town. If we've learned anything from COVID, it's that many commercial spaces are not being refilled. Many commercial companies are not refilling those office spaces. So what do we do with these empty locations? Well, we're going to be I personally would love to see them become mixed use properties where we have a residence that are supporting those areas as well as businesses. And that would also alleviate some of the pressure to build in the marineship area, for example, where we have an imported industry already. This would create opportunity elsewhere in town where we may be able to rezone some existing infrastructure to support other uses. For me, that's just a couple of things that are top of mind. Thank you for your time tonight. |
| 01:40:27.02 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. Mr. Drake. |
| 01:40:29.92 | John Duret | Thank you. So five or 10 years from now, I think If we have a, uh, a city that is well functioning based on adequate revenues that have been provided by the economic activity in in Sausalito. I think that would be a success. However, Um, We have to do that, of course, to meet the needs of the residents for city services, but We also have to be careful of the secret sauce of Sausalito that we do not disrupt disrupt the culture that draws people to Sausalito, salty Sausalito. Very important that we keep that in mind. and that Sausalito remain a funky place that tourists want to visit. Thank you. |
| 01:41:21.49 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thanks very much. Thanks very much, fellas. So what we're going to do Tonight, as we're doing interviews tonight, we're going to make appointments at April 13th City Council meeting for EDAC because there's so many. So thank you so much for joining us, and we're moving on to our next group of applicants. Thank you. |
| 01:41:38.02 | Farid Najabi | Thank you for your time. Thank you. |
| 01:41:39.53 | Janelle Kellman | Bye. |
| 01:41:39.58 | Farid Najabi | Thank you. members. |
| 01:41:40.46 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. So our next group that I have, Madam clerk is Sue Avril Sandra Bushmaker. Um, Amer Kayani and Chris White. |
| 01:41:57.20 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, that's correct. We are slowly letting everyone in. |
| 01:42:02.42 | Melissa Blaustein | Didn't Emmer remove himself or was that just for |
| 01:42:04.86 | Heidi Scoble | Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, Linda Fotch and Amir Krayani have withdrawn their applications. |
| 01:42:06.47 | Melissa Blaustein | I'm sorry. |
| 01:42:12.29 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, I see he was on our list twice. Sorry, Mark. Okay, so this group is going to be Sue Avril, Senator Bushmaker and Chris White. Thank you. |
| 01:42:24.59 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. |
| 01:42:24.81 | Janelle Kellman | you |
| 01:42:25.10 | Janelle Kellman | And what about Bob? Is Bob Lallan still? applying. |
| 01:42:29.18 | Heidi Scoble | Yeah, Bob Lalanne has not given any indication that he's withdrawing his application. However, he... to be in this meeting. Thank you. |
| 01:42:39.46 | Jill Hoffman | And do we know if Angela Is available? It's here. Oh, there's Bob. |
| 01:42:42.32 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:42:42.34 | Heidi Scoble | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:42:42.65 | Heidi Scoble | I'm sorry. |
| 01:42:42.71 | Janelle Kellman | I'm sorry. |
| 01:42:44.91 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. Uh, uh, councilor Blaston any further word from. |
| 01:42:49.45 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah, she received notice evidently or didn't get to her that that was the time for interview. So she's going, we're going to talk tomorrow. She's obviously still interested and disappointed. So I don't know if it would be possible to make time at any point before the appointment. But anyway, we can follow up together. |
| 01:43:05.81 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. So Okay. So Madam clerk, we're, this group is Sue Avril, Bob Malone, Sandra Bush, Bushmaker and Chris White. |
| 01:43:14.34 | Heidi Scoble | That is correct. I'm not seeing Chris White here. Chris, can you raise your hand? in the Zoom function we had you up earlier. I see his wife is here, so that might be him. This is Dwight. It is, okay, so I have given control functions to a Sue White, So, Thank you. Sue or Chris, if you can share your video and unmute yourselves. That would be much appreciated. |
| 01:43:42.23 | Chris White | can. |
| 01:43:42.55 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 01:43:42.57 | Chris White | Thank you. Oh, there we go. I think we're set now. |
| 01:43:46.27 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, very good, welcome. |
| 01:43:47.83 | Chris White | Thank you. |
| 01:43:48.37 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:43:48.98 | Janelle Kellman | Welcome. Okay, so we're going to ask you, two questions and we're going to do kind of a round robin where I'll ask the first question which is going to be In a minute or less, please describe why you think it's important for |
| 01:44:04.96 | Unknown | Thank you. Mm-hmm. |
| 01:44:05.74 | Janelle Kellman | why EDAC is important. And then the next part of that question is what do you bring to the table? What's your greatest assets or strength for EDAC? And then we'll go around to each and get a response to everybody. And then I'll do a follow-up, which is in less than a minute, please describe what the next five to ten years, what success looks like in five to ten years. |
| 01:44:22.31 | Unknown | What's your favorite? |
| 01:44:25.18 | Janelle Kellman | Okay? Um, And we could do a timer, but I feel like we did pretty good on the last round. What is the rest city council? Do we need to do a timer or are we good to go? Thank you. |
| 01:44:34.29 | Jill Hoffman | and if we're... Last group was a good example. |
| 01:44:36.20 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. We're good to go. So just try to keep your understanding that we do have limited time and try to keep your answers succinct and to the point. So we're going to go, this is the order that I have, and this is just what I've got on my list. So, and oh my God, it just happens to be alphabetical. So it's gonna be Sue Averill, Bob Long, Sandra Bushmaker and Chris White. So that's gonna be the order for both rounds. LSers. objection. Okay. So we'll start with Sue. Sue, tell us in a Well, or two minutes, I guess, but why you think why EDAC is important and what's your greatest strength or asset that you bring to the table? |
| 01:45:16.83 | Sue Avril | Thank you, first of all, for your time and considering me for this volunteer position. I feel that EDAC is really important, as the other people had mentioned, recovering from COVID. I'm a business owner downtown and I have seen the destruction that COVID's done on our businesses. There's very little traffic. And I think it's important to build the business community back in a very clear and succinct way and plan more what type of business goes into Sausalito. I hear every day, you know, where are the artists? Where are the shops that used to be here? Even before COVID, I heard that. So I think it's very important to not like, jury like an art show, but have some sort of a plan on what type of business that goes back into Sausalito. And trying to engage the community as well as the tourism. I think that would be important. And what I bring to the table as a business owner, I think I have skills to such as, you know, Oh gosh, I don't know. I have all kinds, I think that I could help in committees. I don't always have to have my idea pushed forward. |
| 01:46:41.92 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:46:46.76 | Sue Avril | I'm not sure. ideas as well as my own. I I think meetings are great, but they have to accomplish something and have to move forward those ideas in a very clear way to make progress. And I hope that answered the question. |
| 01:47:05.05 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. Okay, so we're going to go Bob next and then Sandra and then Chris. So Bob, go ahead. |
| 01:47:14.35 | Janelle Kellman | Oh, Bob, you're on mute. |
| 01:47:19.23 | Bob Lalanne | How's that? |
| 01:47:20.12 | Janelle Kellman | That's good. |
| 01:47:20.69 | Bob Lalanne | Greetings, everyone. Thank you very much. So as has been said, COVID I think is I would also add though, however, that I think this is a truly historic time that we have to be able to do not only in Sausalito, but in many cities because there is so much opportunity The shirt sleeve has kind of been pulled in and out with where we're coming out of this. I think it's an incredible opportunity. I've been an urban infill community developer in San Francisco. |
| 01:47:48.40 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:47:51.41 | Bob Lalanne | the LaLon group I founded over four years ago. and lead Andrew Junius and his partner in the movement have been my land use lawyers there. but we've done community development. So we understand what community development is about. not just development, but it's engaging the community and bringing them in. I think That's clearly one of my strengths, my 40 years of real estate development in San Francisco. Secondly, I was on the board of trustees at the UC Berkeley Foundation, chair of the finance committee, about five years ago, the chancellor asked me to become Vice Chancellor of Real Estate, which I did. |
| 01:48:27.91 | Unknown | Chancellor. |
| 01:48:30.03 | Bob Lalanne | basically to help monetize UC Berkeley's real estate assets, not only to create new revenue sources, but also, economic development done. And I think that's a good question. I had over 800 employees, $100 million budget. and all my goal was um, or the public mission of the university through new revenue generation. on campus and off campus. And I did that, I held that position for about three and a half years. |
| 01:49:02.42 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thank you. And moving on then to Sandra Bushmaker, go ahead. Evening, everybody. Good to see you. |
| 01:49:10.03 | Sandra Bushmaker | Thank you all again. I've looked over the rules or the role of the EDAC on the website, and I think that's a very good place to start. I would like to see Certainly we need to recover from COVID, but we were having trouble in the downtown area before COVID. And I think we need to analyze that situation and figure out |
| 01:49:30.90 | Unknown | And |
| 01:49:35.51 | Sandra Bushmaker | what was happening. before COVID hit in addition to the COVID recovery. One of the rules that the council had devised for The EDAC was to pursue new and diversified businesses leveraging our maritime and industrial expertise, including the use of an innovation zone to address climate change and challenges. such as sea level rise. And being that we are a a waterfront community on the water. I think we need to pursue that particular role. Excuse me. Chris. Go ahead. He's muted. Go ahead. Okay. We need to pursue that fourth, um, |
| 01:50:11.06 | Janelle Kellman | Go ahead. |
| 01:50:16.40 | Sandra Bushmaker | or fourth bullet point. in the role that the council assigned for the EDAC. I've been a resident of Sausalito for over 30 years, first in 1979, so I've been here a long time. I had a business in Sausalito for almost for two over two decades. I had my law practice here and operated as a solo practitioner and as you know I've attended most of the council meetings EDAC, GPAC, You name it, I've been there for the last four years and of course I served as a mayor for two consecutive terms and on the Council for almost five years. My term happened to have been one of those long ones. I think I can be the rudder for this committee. I can bring in institutional knowledge And I can use my experience as a business owner in Sausalito, providing services, professional services to the community. I obviously think that I resident involvement is really critical for whatever we do. in this area of economic development. And I think that we might be looking at additional roles for EDAC perhaps working with the city finance department when it gets reconstituted in order to look at our numbers and what we really need to I'll see you next time. emphasized for growth and development. Thank you. |
| 01:51:49.23 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. Okay, Mr. White, question to you is, why EDAC is important and what you bring to the table. |
| 01:51:57.72 | Chris White | First, I have to unmute. Are we all set? |
| 01:52:00.62 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:52:00.65 | Chris White | Thank you. |
| 01:52:00.69 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah. |
| 01:52:00.75 | Chris White | Thank you, Madam Mayor and City Council, ladies and gentlemen, for this opportunity. Let's see if I can get my face in the picture here. |
| 01:52:00.77 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you, Mary. |
| 01:52:08.95 | Chris White | Um, As you all know, and as the previous lady identified, There have been an innumerable number of times that people have suggested even pre-COVID that we need a higher net worth tourist to this city. And we have, anytime you ever travel and you let people know you're from Sausalito, if they've been there, they just all go crazy. But somehow or another, the message doesn't get across. in this current environment with travel. And what I bring to the table is well over 40 years of first working as VP of Sales and Marketing of the Fairmont Hotel Company, And then secondly, having my own business, It was a nationwide and international business of salespeople bringing meetings and conventions to hotels all over the world. Having that as an experience, I think I probably bring more to the table to help this community bring higher net worth tourists into Sausalito. We have so much infrastructure, but we don't capitalize on it with the programs that places like Carmel and Monterey and so many other places in California do. We need a much more effective marketing and messaging job to attract high net worth people into Sausalito, which everybody, not just people in the hotel business and restaurants want. So Thank you. |
| 01:53:39.98 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:53:40.97 | Chris White | my comments. |
| 01:53:41.85 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. Mr. White, you may want to adjust your camera because we're looking at your neck. Thank you. |
| 01:53:49.31 | Chris White | I got to fight my wife to the end of the camera. |
| 01:53:49.33 | Jill Hoffman | I got a Yeah. |
| 01:53:52.55 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:53:52.57 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 01:53:52.95 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:53:52.97 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:53:54.19 | Chris White | Thank you. |
| 01:53:55.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:53:55.35 | Janelle Kellman | We heard every word. We heard every word. So this is a lightning round in less than a minute. tell us what success looks like in five to 10 years. And we're going to go the same So Sue, Bob, Sandra, Chris. |
| 01:54:14.22 | Sue Avril | I think every building filled I think is an excellent goal and I think it's attainable. I think somebody mentioned that, you know, this is an opportunity to build the city back in a better way than it was. Over the past two years, I've noticed the businesses that have been moving in are ice cream shops, candy shops, t-shirt shops. and those are filling the void of a large area right now. And I don't see how that's possibly sustainable. I can't imagine how many but we need to get a higher end business in there that not only caters to the tourists international local national but also engage the community I think that's how the city of Sausalito is going to be much more much healthier going forward is to engage that community in whatever we're doing |
| 01:55:07.09 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thank you. Bob, to you. Oh, hold on, Bob. We can't hear you. |
| 01:55:16.79 | Bob Lalanne | I'm not sure. Okay. I think to that point, yes. Vibrant storefronts. But I think not only that attract the high-end network folks that would also maybe spend more time here, like hotel rooms more tourists or even people from you know, other parts of California coming here for a nice, lovely weekend on the Bay and Portofino, as I would call it. But also, I think there's opportunity for retail and vibrancy that also would help support people. but you're, you know, citizens with maybe more services, et cetera. |
| 01:55:58.28 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:56:00.92 | Bob Lalanne | And I also like to think that with a lot of the public area that we have in town, that there'd be as part of the economic development, more partnership with the city private public partners with and the city and the city and the city. and doing more with the outdoors that are here in town. which it seems a lot of cities are more looking more at private public. to help. a small issue. |
| 01:56:29.71 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thank you. |
| 01:56:30.30 | Bob Lalanne | to be my food. |
| 01:56:31.82 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:56:32.29 | Sandra Bushmaker | Thank you. |
| 01:56:32.54 | Janelle Kellman | Um, |
| 01:56:33.03 | Sandra Bushmaker | Sandra you're next and then Chris. Okay in five to ten years I would like to see Sausalito economically stable. I would like to see our infrastructure Strong. I would like to see the empty storefronts filled. I would like to see are a clear analysis of our assumptions regarding hospitality and commercial success in Sausalito. So that's gonna require some, an intellectual exercise along with the practical implementation. I think that I would like to see us really look at the roles that the city council has assigned to the city council EDEC? and see if we can't completely recover from the COVID and the other decline in revenues that we saw from our traditional sources. that we need to retool and redevelop our, uh, and grow our maritime and industrial and arts here in Sausalito. That's what we're known for. And that's what I want to see happen. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:57:43.97 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:57:44.65 | Sandra Bushmaker | THE END OF |
| 01:57:44.83 | Janelle Kellman | Chris? |
| 01:57:45.19 | Sandra Bushmaker | Thank you. |
| 01:57:46.66 | Chris White | Well, I think the key to long-term success for Sausalito downtown and bringing in more high net worth tourists would be everybody downtown working together. I don't see that happening right now, but pulling in the hotels, the restaurants, the retail stores, the kayaking, the artists in that big building. the opportunity for sightseeing and the tours, everything that everybody loves about Sausalito. But if we pull them all together and develop some good, strong marketing messages, to primarily people within California not going outside, I think we can improve upon the high net worth tourists that will then cater to the appropriate organizations. But if we can't work together, I don't think we'll have the success. |
| 01:58:34.48 | Janelle Kellman | Okay? Thank you. Thank you to all four of you and Thank you for participating and taking the time to talk to us. And we're moving on now to the next group. |
| 01:58:44.62 | Chris White | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:58:48.11 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, our next group, which will consist of Rachel, Danielle Stoud, Chris Gallagher, Federico Cortez, Aaron Singer, and Ann Lee is next. Ann Lee has withdrawn her application, and Federico Cortez does not appear to be. in this meeting. of interest with the exception of Chris Gallagher, all... persons to be interviewed are 94965 liaisons. |
| 01:59:14.07 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. Except for Chris, right? |
| 01:59:18.35 | Heidi Scoble | I'm not. |
| 01:59:19.42 | Janelle Kellman | Chris. We're interviewing Aaron, because we don't see Rico on the line. So we're interviewing Aaron Singer and Rachel, Danielle, Start, start, start. |
| 01:59:29.63 | Sandra Bushmaker | I'm sorry. |
| 01:59:30.59 | Janelle Kellman | Oh, sorry. And then, and they're 94965 liaisons, but Chris Gallagher, even though she's listed as 94969 liaison, she's really just an, just a, member, like at large member? That's correct. Okay, good. All right, thank you. Thank you guys for joining us. Um, I'm guessing you heard what what's gone on before, but I'll just say it again just for |
| 01:59:55.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:59:56.71 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, so we have Two basic questions. One is, Um, is why EDAC is important and then also what you bring to the table for EDAC. And then the second round will be Um, discuss what it looks like in five to 10 years. Um, in a minute or less. I'm just going to go down my list. We're going to start with Aaron, then we'll go to Rachel. Am I saying your name right, Rachel? You are, thank you. Thank you. And then Chris Gallagher and we'll just do that. Unless somebody objects. Okay. So we'll start with Erin, go ahead. |
| 02:00:35.68 | Unknown | For the first question why EDAC is important, the voice of the business community is critical to not only the long-term success of Sausalito but it's particularly critical now as we're recovering and rebuilding after this amazing year we've all just experienced. And EDAC will be a linchpin to helping with that recovery. In terms of my own strengths, I'm a business owner here in town and a resident. I have started and grown and and built several businesses and organizations here in town. So I've got almost three decades of experience doing that. I've also been involved specifically in the business community for the last almost three decades. I served on the predecessor to EDAC, the business advisory committee. I was twice chairman of that I served in the same capacity in the city of San Anselmo. years ago I was on their economic development committee and I was also chair of that committee for a while. I was chairman of the board for the Sausalito Chamber of Commerce, where I served on that board for many, many years. And I'm currently on the board of the Marin City Community Development Corporation. So I bring a fairly broad host of experience to the table. And I absolutely adore and love this city and want to do everything I can to help cultivate its success and growth. |
| 02:02:35.35 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. Okay, Rachel, to you. |
| 02:02:38.24 | Rachel | Alrighty. Hi, everyone. Great to be here. Thanks for having me. So I am your local artist. I'm an artist and a maker. And I became interested in EDAC as a person who is in a building where 11 units are now empty. And I've sort of watched. a mass exodus. of businesses in the last couple of years. So I'm also studying right now. I'm studying sustainable solutions in business and in public administration. So I'm really fascinated with the development part of VDAC. and in a very academic place in my life and curious to see how I can apply that And that's one of my strengths is I actually have a pretty I THINK a pretty robust network of friends and artists. I was in the ICB for several years and also worked there before that. And then now I'm at 200 Gate 5. So I'm sort of like in the Marinship area and have had this amazing experience. of cultivating relationships and being part of Marin Open Studios. holding workshops and just sort of being yeah, being part of the vibrancy that everyone speaks to wanting to to keep and grow. Okay, thank you. |
| 02:03:48.44 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 02:03:49.03 | Rachel | Thank you. |
| 02:03:49.06 | Janelle Kellman | And Chris, go ahead. |
| 02:03:52.37 | Chris Gallagher | Okay, so don't be bored because part of my, speech is going to sound very much like Erin. So if you've said you've heard this before, it's probably why. I think the EDAC is really important because it brings together the strengths of both what was formerly the BAC committee, and the hospitality committee. So combining those two together in those goals and looking at various items throughout the city and trying to tackle them with a With a wider variety of individuals that are, that bring certain strengths to the table. I was a former member of the BAC for several years. And as I think most of you know, I've also was a member of the G PAC. Since the BAC and the hospitality committees have disbanded. I have attended all the EDAC committee meetings So I wouldn't be long for me to come up to speed. And I have been assisting several of the EDEC members in certain things getting public service announcements out and things of that right now and it's because of those individuals who have encouraged me to apply so it was the encouragement of several members of the current EDAC committee that asked me to put my name in. Um, I think I bring... You know, I've been in Sausalito 37 years now. I've been on the Chamber Board, this will finish At the end of December, I will have been on the board for 12 years. and I will have served two years as chairman. 2010 and then also last year. So, You know, I bring a lot of institutional knowledge Um, to the committee. as and also being down in the Marin ship I chaired the Wham committee so I bring a lot of those kinds of experiences to the table. |
| 02:05:57.87 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thank you. All right, here's the lightning round. What does success look like in five to 10 years? Same order. |
| 02:06:07.76 | Unknown | All right. Success looks to me like number one, seeking and getting deeper involvement in the business community from residents of Sausalito to help us shape our thinking as to, especially in this recovery and rebuilding phase that we're entering in right now. Telling the Sausalito story and crafting a brand message that can attract the kinds of visitors that we would like to see come and stay in our town, We spend money in lots of our businesses and develop long-term relationships with our town so they don't come just once but they come lots of times because they're coming from places close by. like we go visit places close by. In I would love it would be fantastic if a plan that we had crafted was implemented that was attracting the types of businesses that both residents and visitors will not only love, but support and support happily and watch those businesses grow. And then finally, I mentioned it a little bit before, but it's the development of that long-term relationship with the type of visitors that we come so that they're not coming and just, you know, having an ice cream and buying a t-shirt, but they're actually spending money at salty and, and at all the wonderful places we have smattered throughout Sausalito from north to south. |
| 02:07:47.64 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 02:07:47.68 | Rachel | Okay, thank you. Rachel, to you, Thank you. I got a little lost in what you were saying. I agree with the story piece. So as a women owned business, I'd really like to focus on attracting |
| 02:07:53.14 | Janelle Kellman | I agree. |
| 02:08:00.20 | Rachel | I'm not sure if you're women and POC owned businesses I'd like to also, as people said earlier, climate change, sea level rise. I spent a lot of time looking at the academic work around that and I think that that's an important piece Um, implementing an innovation zone and really focusing on policy work around that. and how we protect history and culture as we go through this process. And I just want to say that I appreciate sort of looking at this from the direction of attracting tourists, but as sort of attracting bees to the honey and as some of the honey in this part of the world, I just would really like to make sure that we're focused on keeping the bees, sorry, keeping the honey generating and having something fun and funky for people to come see. I grew up hearing the stories from my father who was born in San Francisco 39 and he would always talk about the jazz club in the 70s and Sausalito and hanging out at the Trident. And so I, you know, when I moved back to this area a decade ago, and like I've watched some of that culture maybe move around and I just want to really focus on being a voice for that culture. |
| 02:09:10.94 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thank you. And Chris, to you. |
| 02:09:14.50 | Chris Gallagher | So in five years, what I'd like to see is businesses fighting to be a |
| 02:09:17.48 | Janelle Kellman | you |
| 02:09:17.54 | Rachel | I'm going to go. |
| 02:09:17.65 | Janelle Kellman | Bye. |
| 02:09:21.53 | Chris Gallagher | have a storefront or be here in Sausalito instead of just packing their bags and giving up and throwing their hands up in the air and saying that the city's too difficult to deal with. which is what we hear a lot of as far as, you know, businesses trying to get licenses or permits and things like that, They would be clamoring. There would be a line of people wanting to have a business in Sausalito. and a variety of businesses, a diversity of businesses. We would be a destination location for conferences, those kinds of things. hopefully with the international travel picking back up in a year or two, being that destination again and attracting not only them, but also regional visitors. I have to say when I traveled internationally pre-COVID and people found out I was from Sausalito, you know, they were so happy to tell me where they had dinner and dah, dah, dah, and they described everything to a T. And I want us to have that kind of, you know, real pride in being able to live here, not visit, but actually live here. So that's what I'd like to see. |
| 02:10:35.52 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thank you. Okay, so that concludes all of our interviews, I believe. And thank you to you guys. And thank you to everybody who submitted an application and who showed up for the interviews. We're so grateful for the level of talent that we have in Sausalito and that we have so many great people who will. to lend their time and energy to various efforts. I will say, though, I believe Rachel, you are a business at large applicant and not a 965 applicant. So, So those two corrections need to be made or are made on our list. And so that's it. clarified. I don't know why my video stopped. Hold on. |
| 02:11:17.57 | Janelle Kellman | It wasn't me this time. Who did it? I promise. |
| 02:11:23.19 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, so just with that clarification. Okay, so now we're all clear what we're gonna do. We are gonna come back on April 13th on our agenda and vote. Um, and on EDAC, all the other boards and committees that we've talked about tonight, we have appointed Um, for the rest. Anyway, we've appointed and filled up all of our boards and commissions. Okay, with that, I don't think I have any I think we're good to to adjourn. Anybody? Object? Okay, we're adjourned. Thanks you guys. Thank you to my council members for all your hard work tonight. We did this huge. And search all by yourself. |
| 02:12:02.08 | Unknown | Okay. Yes. else. |
| 02:12:05.02 | Janelle Kellman | And the applicants were really inspiring, especially on our last rounds on EDEC, so that was really... |
| 02:12:05.27 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:12:05.36 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 02:12:10.99 | Janelle Kellman | That was great. Thank you. |
| 02:12:12.55 | Ian Sobieski | Thanks to everyone who's volunteering. |
| 02:12:12.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:12:12.70 | Janelle Kellman | I'm just... |
| 02:12:16.48 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. Have a great evening. Take care. Bye-bye. Thank you, Heidi. Right. |
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