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| 00:00:01.04 | Janelle Kellman | I was just noticing, you know, we do at least three of us wear the same colors every time. And sometimes we're just really like random colors and we still do it. So you, me and Susan. |
| 00:00:11.22 | Heidi Scoble | The audio is up, we're gonna start streaming. |
| 00:00:11.54 | Janelle Kellman | Hello. |
| 00:00:13.56 | Heidi Scoble | Streaming is live. Good evening, Mayor Hoffman and council members. This meeting is being held pursuant to section three of executive order at N-29-20 issued by Governor Newsom on March 17th, 2020. And all members are joining this meeting telephonically through Zoom And this meeting is also being broadcast live on the city's website and on cable TV channel 27. |
| 00:00:35.44 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you, Madam Clerk. Good evening and welcome to the regular city council meeting of Tuesday, April 27th. in 2021. Tonight we'll be starting with club session at 5.30. and beginning our regular open session at 7 p.m. Madam Clerk, could you please call the roll? |
| 00:00:52.21 | Heidi Scoble | Councilmember Sobieski? |
| 00:00:53.80 | Jill Hoffman | Here. |
| 00:00:54.91 | Heidi Scoble | Council member Blaustein. Here. Council member Cleveland Knowles. careful. Vice Mayor Kelman. THE END OF THE END OF THE Mayor Hoffman. I'm not here. All members are present and we have a quorum. |
| 00:01:07.36 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. item 1B on our city council is our city council agenda tonight is closed session items. Items D1 through D6 will be in closed session tonight. D1 is public employment pursuant to CGC section 54957 city manager. Item D2 is public employee performance evaluation pursuant to section CGC 54957. Title Interim City Manager. Item D3 is public employment pursuant to Section 54957, Title City Attorney. Item D4 is conference with legal counsel. Christine. litigation. initiation pursuant to California Government Code Section 54956.9A. The name of the cases are Susan Gordon AND, AND, I'll Ebert Titus versus Caltrans in the city of Sausalito. The next case is Lydia McNair versus Caltrans, City of Sausalito. The next case is Ron. Ruda and George Glass versus Caltrans in the city of Sausalito. The next case is Winston and David Johnson versus Caltrans in the city of Sausalito. Item D5 is conference with legal counsel existing litigation pursuant to, initiation pursuant to California government code section 54956.9 A. Name of the case, Whiskey Springs, HOA versus Sausalito. EMC SC CIV case number 1903419 D six is conference with legal counsel, existing litigation initiation pursuant to California government code section 54956.9A, name of the case is Sausalito Yacht Harbor versus Sausalito MSC-1902916. Item D7 is liability claims. pursuant to California Government Code section 54956.95 named the claimant Mary Goff, agency claimed against City of Sausalito. These items will be discussed in closed session. At this point, I will open public comment and close session items. |
| 00:03:27.93 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, there are no person participants in the meeting at this moment. |
| 00:03:32.06 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you very much. At this point, then I will close public comment on closed session items and we will adjourn to closed session. Thank you. We'll be back at 7. |
| 00:03:57.34 | Heidi Scoble | We're admitting participants. Streaming is up. Madam Mayor, the meeting is able to begin. Thank you. |
| 00:04:05.46 | Jill Hoffman | Uh... Good evening and thank you. Thank you, Heidi. And good evening and welcome to Our open session for a regular city council meeting for April 27th, 2021. I'm now reopening closed session. There are no announcements from closed session. May I have a motion to approve the agenda? So moved. Second. Madam Clerk, can you please take the role? |
| 00:04:32.73 | Heidi Scoble | to member Sobieski. |
| 00:04:34.25 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 00:04:34.27 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 00:04:34.28 | Ian Sobieski | Yes. |
| 00:04:35.46 | Heidi Scoble | Council Member Blastie. |
| 00:04:37.42 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 00:04:37.49 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. Council member Cleveland Knowles. |
| 00:04:40.11 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:04:40.16 | Heidi Scoble | Yes. |
| 00:04:40.46 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:04:41.10 | Heidi Scoble | Bye. |
| 00:04:41.62 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 00:04:41.98 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:04:42.30 | Heidi Scoble | Yes. |
| 00:04:42.54 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:04:43.07 | Heidi Scoble | Mayor Hoffman. |
| 00:04:44.12 | Jill Hoffman | Yes, thank you. The motion passes 5-0. Special presentations are next item on the agenda. There are no special presentations tonight, so we'll... keep moving. Next item on the agenda is number two, communications. This is the time on the agenda for members of the public to provide any public comment for matters that are not on the agenda. except in a limited situation, state law precludes the council for taking action on or engaging in discussions concerning items of business that are not on the agenda. However, the Council may briefly respond to statements made or questions posed by members of the public Ask clarifying questions, make a brief announcement or refer matters not on the agenda to city staff or direct that the subject any. If you would like to provide a public comment, please raise your hand in the Zoom application. The city clerk will call on individuals who have raised their hands, In the order they are raised after you are called on, you will be unmuted and allowed to share your comments. Public comments are allowed three minutes each. Please keep your comments respectful and focused. We want to listen to any individual who requests to speak and each speaker has the responsibility to act in a civil and courteous manner as defined. by the chair, which is me. We will not tolerate hate speech, direct or indirect threats, abusive language. The meeting host will mute anyone who fails to follow these guidelines. So at this time, I will open up. public comment for matters not on the agenda. |
| 00:06:14.64 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, would you like me to, although we have three hands raised at this time, would you also like me to read how public comment can be received. Yes, thank you. Video or audio public comment participation is limited to three minutes per speaker. If you'd like to make a comment, please raise your hand in the Zoom application and you'll be called upon when it is your time to speak. To raise your hand from the phone, press star nine. Each speaker will be notified when the time has elapsed. And we do have three hands that are raised. Our speaking order will be Carolyn Revell, Julie Vieira, and then Wendy Richards. Carolyn, you've been unmuted. |
| 00:06:57.10 | Jill Hoffman | Um, Ms. Ravel, we're not hearing you, so I think you're still not unmuted on your end. Thank you. Sorry. Can you hear me now? Yes, we can. |
| 00:07:03.49 | Carolyn Revell | Can you hear me? Thank you. Yeah. Good evening, Madam Mayor and members of the council. I'm Carolyn Revell, speaking to you tonight as a member of the steering committee for the tunnel project, All Our Children United. You have in your packet a design concept for the tunnel project. I'm asking again, as I did at your April 13th meeting, that the project be placed on the council's consent agenda for the May 11th meeting. so that we may receive the council's endorsement. The project consists of stenciled hand prints by students who live or study in Marin City and Sausalito painted on the walls of the tunnel under Highway 101. against a band of sunrise to sunset colors. Additional components will be images reflecting marine ship history and much improved lighting. The goal of the project is to lighten and enhance the dark dangerous walkway that our school children on the United campuses traverse The project reflects the historic link between our two communities and the unification of our school system. The steering committee consists, as you know, of representatives from the partnering organizations, Felicia Gaston of Marin City Performing Stars, Dr. Shirley Thornton of Arts Plus Foundation, Sonia Hansen of the Sausalito Foundation, Susan C. Shea, a professional grant writer fundraiser and myself, representing Sassalita beautiful. We've met with the Marine Community Foundation, have endorsements from Marine Open Studios, We're in contact with County Supervisor Stephanie Moulton-Peters and with the Interim Manager of the Marine City Community Services District, Don Lancaster. We're seeking, we will be seeking private funding Caltrans, the agency with jurisdiction over the tunnel, has a set of detailed guidelines for art and transportation address the first guidelines, Sausalito Beautiful donated funding to hire Raylene Gorham. local artist to develop the design concept in your packet. We've had preliminary approval of the direction we're taking from a Caltrans representative We're going to ask the county to be the official applicant for the project and we'll continue Fulfilling Caltrans detailed requirements in coming months. It is our hope that next fall, the school children can actually begin working together on the stencils. As I said at the outset, we're seeking the endorsement of the Sausalito City Council for the project. When we presented the design concept to mayor Hoffman and council member Blaustein of the council social justice task force. They both endorsed the project enthusiastically. It was Mayor Hoffman's suggestion that the concept be placed on the council's consent agenda for the next council meeting, which is what I'm again requesting this evening. Are there any questions about the project? |
| 00:09:33.88 | Jill Hoffman | know and thank you. |
| 00:09:35.10 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you very much. |
| 00:09:36.25 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:09:36.26 | Carolyn Revell | THANK YOU. |
| 00:09:46.17 | Heidi Scoble | Julie, you've been unmuted. |
| 00:09:48.14 | Julie | Good evening, everyone. I just would like to invite the community and the council members to come down to the new Sausalito Chamber of Commerce and our Visitor Center. We were open all last week and we have had great response from the community visitors. So I welcome everybody to come down. We're open Wednesday through Sunday. 10 o'clock in the morning till five in the evening on Wednesday and Thursday. And then Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, we're open 10 to 6. So we look forward to seeing the council members and our community at the new visitor center. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:10:37.87 | Heidi Scoble | . |
| 00:10:39.97 | Wendy Richards | Thank you. Thank you, Council members. Good evening. and Mayor Hoffman. I would like to continue the conversation on measure M. I get my three minutes and if it has to happen over time, then it happens over time. Let me reiterate, This is a very, serious issue of much greater scope than the tax on home-based businesses. Many people think that it's only about the tax. you're about to hire a new city manager. You speak about building back better and improving and values. And yet you're allowing a flawed measure to remain that comes out of the hide of hardworking people. You've heard testimony from many people, many of whom are on this call right now. in this council since January and the EDAC since then. You've heard from people like Joe Caldwell more than a year ago. talking about the flaws in Measure M. Now the first step to correct those flaws is to remove the tax on home-based businesses. The next step will be to revise it for the businesses that operate in storefronts. But the very first step is to stop discriminating against those of us who work in our homes like everyone else does today. where the city is skimming money off the top. Now I shared with you my whiteboard on Saturday at that excellent meeting that Charlie did. And I just want to, reiterate this is an issue of your integrity. The five of you, this is something, I'm not questioning motives. I'm just talking about the actual effect of this ministry. The voters didn't get the information. Home-based businesses were never informed that they would be taxed. It was never told to anyone. And, the conflicts of interest for the parties, the consultant that was used to do the work is the one that collects the tax. There are so many areas of discrimination and I'm not. Hiding the truth. It's about integrity. That's what it's about. plant. New flowers. Without our integrity, That's what we're gonna get I want flowers for Sausalito Beautiful that are fresh and healthy and are put in with integrity. Your three minutes has elapsed. |
| 00:13:47.58 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:13:49.30 | Wendy Richards | Thank you. |
| 00:13:50.37 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Okay. |
| 00:13:53.72 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. Oh. |
| 00:13:54.82 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:13:54.84 | Heidi Scoble | Go ahead. |
| 00:13:55.66 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:13:55.68 | Heidi Scoble | from the David Cresante. Ava, you've been unmuted. |
| 00:14:04.19 | David Cresante | Thanks so much. Sorry, I'm on my bike commute. But I just wanted to remind you that it is a good time to review your police practices The data that I retrieved from the county shows that your police department has matched both the Mill Valley Police Department and the Marin County Sheriff's Office for arrests referred to prosecutions. for black individuals at over eight times their demographic presence in the county this far exceeds other issues we see in counties across the Deep South. We have a lot of work to do in that department. probably a pretty good police chief. You could have worse, uh, but it's, it's time to clean house. There's a lot of savings that could accrue from, from cleaning house. Um, in your police department. And of course, I'll bring up Nick White . really should not. still be with your police department And I hope you will take a look at that just Thank you. literally just from what we have from the public record, even the newspaper articles about the false complaint that he made against a black school teacher some years back that should have automatically disqualified him. from your police department and it does need to be looked at. I'd also like to suggest that, um, That should take precedence over the kind of reputational laundering that cities usually participate in when they put together a DEI task force or commission or panel. We saw in Mill Valley that this DEI task force was used largely to from the hiring of Rick Navarro and The longtime sheriff captain who had a racial harassment suit. I'm not sure. he was the subject of a racial harassment suit That's the suit we know about. The city isn't... telling us about the rest of the lawsuits, I'm having to do a long CPRA to look at all the litigation. against the county for when he was sheriff. He's a nice guy, but you don't need people with that kind of record in any police department at, in this day and age or ever. So I, I hope you'll, I hope you'll, take the idea, the motivation the pure motivation behind your rationale for creating a DEI. commission and really put it into taking a hard look immediately at your police department and just other policies that you're enacting as a city rather than create this kind of like, you know, distraction. from things that we know are wrong you've been alerted to. So thank you for your time. Thank you. |
| 00:16:56.65 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, we do not have any additional hands that are raised at this time. Thank you. |
| 00:17:00.39 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 00:17:00.60 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 00:17:01.27 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:17:01.83 | Heidi Scoble | I'm not. |
| 00:17:01.96 | Jill Hoffman | Um, |
| 00:17:02.93 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 00:17:02.94 | Jill Hoffman | Then moving on to our next item. I will now close public comment for matters not on the agenda. We're moving on to item three on our agenda, action minutes, the previous meeting. |
| 00:17:18.35 | Jill Hoffman | Do we have any emotion to approve them? I don't. Did we have any? Hold on. |
| 00:17:22.99 | Cleveland Knowles | There's three, yeah. |
| 00:17:24.07 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, I thought that was my fault. |
| 00:17:25.45 | Cleveland Knowles | April 7, April 13, and April 16, and I'll move them unless anybody has comments. |
| 00:17:31.24 | Jill Hoffman | There we go. Okay, do we have a second or comments? I have. Yeah, I'll give you a second. OK, second. OK. Madam Clerk, could you please call the roll? Thank you. |
| 00:17:44.99 | Heidi Scoble | Councilmember Sobieski? |
| 00:17:46.63 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 00:17:46.65 | Cleveland Knowles | Yes. |
| 00:17:46.90 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:17:46.97 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 00:17:47.53 | Heidi Scoble | Councilmember Blaustein. |
| 00:17:49.11 | Janelle Kellman | Yes. |
| 00:17:49.94 | Heidi Scoble | Council member Cleveland Knowles. Yes. Vice Mayor Kellman. |
| 00:17:53.84 | Janelle Kellman | Yes. |
| 00:17:54.61 | Heidi Scoble | Mayor. |
| 00:17:55.02 | Jill Hoffman | month. |
| 00:17:56.67 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 00:17:56.69 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. matter of matter passes 3-0, but I didn't call public comment. motion to approve. Okay. But I didn't open up public comment on this. Okay. So we're going to do it right now. Um, Do we have any public comments on the action minutes? I see no hands raised. Madam Clerk, am I seeing Is that correctly? Madam Mayor, you are correct. There are no hands that are raised. Okay, very good. I will close public comment, though, and... Did you call, did we call the roll? We did, didn't we? We did. Motion passes, five, zero. Moving on. Um, okay. We're moving on now to item number four. Council member committee reports, As always, there are lots of meetings and committees that we all attend. Who would like to start? Thank you. Thank you. with anybody. Okay, well, I'll start then. Okay. So Um, We've done a lot of, most of my meetings in the past two weeks, other than City Council has been on the, with various other groups regionally for addressing our homelessness efforts. So I met with, um, a group of service provide nonprofits and and county health and human services that meets periodically to talk about coordinated entry. So the mayor, myself, the mayor of Novato, the mayor of San Rafael was invited to join that and have a discussion with them about what We, we would request going forward with regard to support and some information from them on how coordinate entry works and the criteria they look at. last Thursday, last Friday in the morning we had a tour of a I think at Pallet Village up in, um, Sonoma as an interim solution for housing, which was very interesting. And I hope to bring back more information on that effort to the council and and suggestions for support that we might have going forward for getting some sort of facility like that in Marin County. We do not have one at this point. We also discussed Um, regional leaders on a coordinated effort for our home key application which of course I would of course Council Member Blaustein and I would discuss that and then bring that back to the Council for further consideration on that and perhaps a I'm not sure. regional requests for Homekey in addition to our own requests for Homekey. I think that would be very interesting and impactful if we did a regional request. I also met with the MCCMC legislative committee. Um, There are the housing bills that we're on, but most of the significant ones, um, are not going to come up for a vote or were, um, transfer or changed into a two year, um, two-year bills. One of the interesting bills that came up was a Um, was AB 897, where they are considering it is a bill to form regional climate districts. kind of like you do regional fire districts or regional whatever, whatever, name your regional effort. So it's it's so that's going to be an interesting bill. And I think something that we would want to keep our eye on especially here in Marin County where we have a lot of regional commonality and something that we're talking about seriously in our sea level rights task force. So, Keep an eye on that. Um, a big, Um, Karen Hollweg, One of the issues, one of the bills that caught my eye in the legislative committee. or sorry, MCC, MC Legislative Committee. And those are the highlights, I think, from my perspective. And so who would like to go next? Yes, Councilmember Cleveland-Nulls. |
| 00:22:25.64 | Cleveland Knowles | Mayor Hoffman, could I just ask a question? Thank you to you and Councilmember Blaustein for working on the project home key. issues, when do you think that might be something we'd hear as a council. |
| 00:22:39.52 | Jill Hoffman | You know... we're pressing to come back Quick. because we want to get our application in. But, you know, The interesting thing for Homekey is that you have to have the facility, right? So it's a request to buy a facility. So. We are working really closely with our county supervisor in identifying you know, with regard to the regional effort, right? Southern Marin sort of location. for a Homekey facility. So we're going to hurt with that. The other interesting thing we are looking at is similar to what we did with our safe harbor program. You know, you can also use Homekey money for slips. So with regard to some of our people that would be amenable to moving with their boat into a slip, we could pay for that with Homekey. Of course, our people in South Salida waters are taken care of. This would be a regional sort of thing, again, with, the constituents of Richardson Bay regional agencies, so Belvedere, Toronto, Mill Valley, and the county. We're working on those. Diligently. to try to come up with the path forward. So those are the home key. Slips are also, payment for slips, you can also use HCD money for those. So that's the other thing that we're trying to, you know, get that pathway trying to help RBRA get that pathway set and also in our own efforts. |
| 00:24:21.47 | Cleveland Knowles | Great, thank you. Thank you both for all your work on that. Thank you. |
| 00:24:24.82 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:24:26.64 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 00:24:26.65 | Jill Hoffman | I think it's... |
| 00:24:27.33 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:24:27.48 | Jill Hoffman | You're welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Who wants to go next? Anyway, no one's got any community reports? Yeah. |
| 00:24:36.24 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 00:24:36.29 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 00:24:36.31 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:24:36.80 | Melissa Blaustein | So, |
| 00:24:37.74 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 00:24:37.76 | Melissa Blaustein | Council Member Boston, go ahead, I'll follow after you. So the historic preservation commission met and welcomed its new member Vicki Nichols and they reviewed the revised draft historical context statement, which was a big effort. It was not fully approved because the consultant wasn't able to be there. But it was it's substantial and it's exciting for the Commission. They also went through the 2019 2020 certified local government annual report which again was a big lift and they did a great job on that and there were some changes indicated, but it was a short meeting, but very efficient and great. Disaster preparedness met and they had a lot of really interesting guest speakers. They had the Marin Fire Authority come and talk about different disaster preparedness and fire measures, as well as Thomas Cromwell from Till Braun Belvedere, who runs the Energy Firewise programs there. And so a couple of important things to take away from that meeting One is that We've seen a lot of communities start to adopt these really great Firewise NRG groups and teams and we have a couple of examples of them in Sausalito and we now have some residents and members of disaster preparedness stepping up to start their own community and our geez and fire wise programs and what's really exciting and we had Tom Welch as well given update from southern burn fire. because we're approaching fire season, is that SMFD has made a decision to hire an NRG coordinator. So there will be a person who is responsible for making sure that we have these NRG teams and that they're efficient and that we have a point of contact and a lead. And the meeting was really exciting because we had folks who have been team leads talk about what that takes and how the process of communication goes. So it was really an exciting meeting. Also, April is Earthquake Awareness Month, and you might have seen in currents, thanks to Sarah from Disaster Preparedness for organizing all of that information and getting it out there. There's things in there about making sure you have an emergency kit and all of that. The next piece was on a fall evacuation drill, which we mentioned at the last meeting as well, but the new approach is sort of smaller scale, but more efficient drills so it will take less time to plan for this, but it will be easier and you'll be able to get information so there are three potential dates on the table that may actually be sooner than fall they may be as soon as June. So stay tuned for those. Sustainability Commission, We met a couple of weeks ago and one of the sustainability Commission members has written a full plan for eliminating natural gas from new construction builds as part of their work on getting. cleaner electrification through the commission. So I imagine that will soon be coming to the legislative committee, which is very exciting. We also welcome two new members to sustainability Commission so that was as well and exciting meeting. We had a discussion around the rate review. There's being a rate review being conducted by Bay Cities for recycling, composting and trash. There's an interest from the Sustainability Commission to consider how we price composting and recycling and how we might incentivize more folks to participate in those programs in the same way that they do with |
| 00:27:36.11 | Unknown | More. |
| 00:27:39.59 | Melissa Blaustein | backyard pickup for trash and The Sustainability Commission's Transportation Committee will be meeting with MCE MCEP, there are a lot of acronyms, apologies, on the EV program and how we can get more EV charters. And I'm sure that Vice Mayor Kelman can elaborate on that and provide more information. So I think that's it for me. |
| 00:27:59.85 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Councilmember Cleveland Knowles, you wanted to go next? And then we'll go with Councilmember Sobieski, and then we'll finish up with the Vice Mayor, if that's okay. Okay, go ahead. |
| 00:28:07.08 | Cleveland Knowles | Yeah, sure. Councilmember Sobieski and I had an informal meeting of the SOAR consolidation working group and we're going to have a formal meeting with the SAS later on to the . coming up. That'll be our first meeting. We had the monthly meeting of the Pedestrian Bicycle Advisory Committee or the PBAC. And Vice Mayor Kellman was nice enough to be the featured guest at that meeting. So that was fun. They also welcomed their new member from the 94965, Sandra Caballero. And she talked a lot about her amazing experience that she'll bring to bear as a member of that committee. They also reviewed the Nevada Street Traffic Calming Project, which got a Safe Routes to School grant. I think about a year and a half ago the Transportation Authority of Marin has been in various design discussions trying to balance the interests of residents with parking and the safety of schoolchildren. bicycling and there's definitely a new urgency to that issue with many kids back on the Nevada Street campus. So we might be seeing that in front of us sometime soon. Um, We also heard a bunch of updates at that, including the gate six intersection, which we probably most people in town have noticed is fully underway. causing a lot of backups due to one lane that was closed, but that hopefully either already has opened back up again but that will be a temporary delay in that northbound traffic lane, but should result, the whole project should result in some really improved bicycle uh, improvements so that you can get from Bridgeway onto the bike path and back north and south more safely than is currently the situation. I'm not sure. I also have been continuing to meet with the Blue Ribbon on identifying additional funds that was started last year and on the Southview Park fundraising efforts. And so that's really exciting. The park is gradually coming to fruition and talking about using some of the raised money for landscaping and some Nice furnishings for the park. So Looks like probably mid summer to late summer that we might be able to have. |
| 00:30:46.70 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:30:48.18 | Cleveland Knowles | groundbreaking. And then lastly, the Transportation Authority of Marin met. We had a really interesting presentation on that new San Rafael Transportation Center, which is kind of near the freeway there. where the new Smart extension has been great, but it bifurcated the bus area. So now there's some buses on one side and other buses on the other. So that's a regional project. and Golden Gate Bridge District is the sponsor and they're working with lots of different, with the city of San Rafael, with the Transportation Authority of Marin, and a bunch of other stakeholders and having a whole new transit center or reimagined transit center there. Um, We provided some additional funding for the Marin-Sonoma Narrows, which is in the northern part of the county. And then lastly, kind of an interesting effort that unfortunately doesn't impact us yet, but I am hoping eventually might. there. doing a pilot of bike share. along near the smart stations. So to do first mile, last mile solutions to get to and from transit. And so it's a pilot right now just to see how that can work in Marin, which is a little less dense than some other areas that have successful bike share, but if that pilot is successful, that might be an option for commuters in southern Berlin to get to bus stops and the ferry. So it could be exciting. So anyway, that's just the beginning of that pilot. And that's everything. Thank you. |
| 00:32:26.90 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Yeah, thank you. That sounds exciting. Okay, Councilmember Sobieski. |
| 00:32:31.36 | Ian Sobieski | I will keep it short. Susan spoke about the sewer meeting. I also attended the economic recovery task force meeting around COVID-19. It's an ongoing session to collaborate on issues around the COVID-19 recovery. We had hoped as a county to get into the yellow tier and just barely missed it. So we're still going orange, but there's a hope and expectation that We may actually get into the LL tier at the next evaluation, which would be May the 4th. So keep your fingers crossed. There was a fair bit of discussion around the challenges of many of our businesses to actually, even if we are reopening, to get the employees that they need to reopen. surveys and discussions with restaurateurs have found a real challenge in filling the of the house, basic. roles inside the restaurant that is required to operate at 100%. even if we get into less restrictive tiers, we may still find many uh, businesses taking some time to be able to ramp back up. The primary part of the meeting was a robust discussion around A PRESENTATION FROM ONE OF OUR OWN. MONICA FINNIGAN, OUR RESIDENT AND MEMBER OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THE EDAC made a presentation and a proposal for us to share services on grant writers. So many, some communities do a very good job at obtaining grant monies to subsidize their city budgets. It's an area that we should do better at in Sausalito and an effort on EDAC was to, and led by Monica was to explore the possibility of having a grant writer here in our town for us, or as an interim step, sharing one with neighboring communities. So she made a proposal to the members of the economic task force to see who would be interested and received a mixed reception. The people that are doing it really great said, you know, we don't need one because we're doing great, but there were several communities that thought it was a good idea. So our next steps are to try to learn from the people that are doing it well and to collaborate with them and with other communities to see if we can share this service get some money for our town. That's the quick update. Thanks. |
| 00:34:56.12 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:34:56.18 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. and Vice Mayor, I'll jump in. And I want to thank all my fellow council members This is so helpful. I'm seeing all these threads of commonality around shared services. climate and infrastructure. you know, what Susan was talking about around Councilman Cleveland, also around you know, transportation is interesting last night We had a Marin County Council of Mayors and Council Members Climate Action Committee meeting And the purpose of that committee is to foster and support collective action to achieve GHG or greenhouse gas reductions in our cities and towns. And for the most part, we focused on electric vehicles and opportunities to procure more green energy. The last night's session was a result of a survey to see where we had shared concerns and shared overlaps. And we actually had a really interesting conversation How does work from home in light of COVID change some of our transportation practices and some of our requirements and are there certain policies that we may want to promote in the interest of climate action? So it's really interesting to see a lot of the overlap between the different communities. I'll just say that the three main significant climate action steps taken locally are climate emergency resolutions, climate adaptation planning, and looking into EV fleets, and I'm happy to say we're doing all of those. So that's really exciting, I think, for us. Then I also last week had a meeting of the Marine Clean Energy or MCE Board of Directors, and this was a very technical conversation. I learned a lot. There were people with much more experience in project finance than I who were able to really educate the group. But we basically talked around prepayment of certain MCE renewable energy power purchase agreements or PPAs that would reduce cost and the likelihood of additional ITCs or investment tax credits for solar. We also looked at the formation of California Community Choice Financing Authority to expand opportunities to provide renewable energy to lower income communities. MCE, as you may know, as of July 2020, our or the MCE electrical vehicle charging infrastructure rebate program, has supported the insulation of more than 550 level two charging ports. So there's three levels of charging ports. Level three is what everybody wants is super fast. But level two is a really good level, I think, because it is pretty fast. And I guess there's an additional 450 plus ports still planned or under construction. So they've increased with this rebate program charging capacity by 40% across the MCE service area, and they still are offering free technical assistance and up to $3,500 in rebates per port for eligible customers. So again, I think that dovetails really nicely with what I think we're about to see from the Sustainability Commission here in South Salido. The mayor alluded to it, the Sea Level Rise Task Force. So we kicked that off last week. We created four subcommittees and welcome community input. This is just the beginning. We're looking at funding, communications, partnerships and collaboration and solutions. We also had an opportunity to meet with the Sister Cities program to learn more about how some of our fellow coastal communities are planning for sea level rise. Not surprisingly, they also have issues, and there's a lot of things that we can learn from them. Um, as a council member Cleveland knows mentioned, I got to be a guest at PBAC. I was extremely impressed by the organization and their passion. So it was absolutely a pleasure to be able to sit in. And I really, really appreciated that. um, I think two more things. One is the housing element subcommittee. or just briefly is on the agenda for tonight, but there was a request for proposal subcommittee. We did meet again last week to talk about the RP process and information of the committee and that's on for tonight. And then also mentioned that Dr. Itoko Garcia extended an invitation to attend the South Slido Maroon City School District Facilities Committee meeting. And that was to look at some of the projects to be built under measure P. And they want to adopt guiding principles to help direct the selection process. interesting creative discussion that used some really nice online collaborative tools that i'd never seen before to help us sort of co-create in real time so this is the first of many opportunities we'll have to engage with the school district and i will you know share that as it comes across my desk and if you you know, comes across yours, please share it as well. I'm sure the community would like to know. So I think that's it. |
| 00:39:07.28 | Ian Sobieski | Sorry, did you want to say anything about our machine shop meeting? |
| 00:39:10.25 | Janelle Kellman | Oh, thank you. Yes, for the prompt. I was looking for my notes, couldn't find them. So Councilmember Sobieski and I did meet with two aides in Congressman Huffman's office to talk about the process. And we were advised that GSA is still going through the surplusing process and would like to hear from us regularly. So we are going to circle back with staff to continue that that conversation. So I have that as a to do. I don't think we got that many details from Huffman's office other than they think it's interesting, they support Sausalito's acquisition. But we're still kind of figuring out how we make that work. Did I miss anything, Councilmember Sobieski? |
| 00:39:48.20 | Ian Sobieski | No, I think that's pretty complete. to get the information. |
| 00:39:52.25 | Janelle Kellman | I think. Thanks, everybody. |
| 00:39:53.11 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Um, Do we want to do, do we want to do a, the city manager search update now or do we want to do it? later in the with the Later. Later. Okay. We'll do it later on the agenda under city manager updates. Um, Okay. Um, I missed one thing. Um, One was, We, I got... We submitted a letter to Um, with Congressman Huffman's office in support of the construction for the, the, um, the Bayview trail, the one that comes down from the from the bridge down. We've talked about this a lot in the past and we support it. But I just wanted to. |
| 00:40:45.72 | Janelle Kellman | when I just said, |
| 00:40:45.98 | Unknown | We'll be right back. |
| 00:40:46.64 | Jill Hoffman | inform everybody that It looks like construction of that may start next year. about a year from now and completion in August of 2022. that's, Super exciting. So. Okay. That's okay. So now I know everybody's got their update. I have a comment there on this. I can't remember. What's that? We take public comment on this. I see a camera. Yeah, it was, that was the next thing I was gonna do. |
| 00:41:10.60 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:41:10.63 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah. Thank you. |
| 00:41:13.11 | Jill Hoffman | I just want to make sure everybody got their updates in. Okay, so now I'm going to open up public comment for community reports. |
| 00:41:20.81 | Heidi Scoble | mayor we have two hands that are raised we'll start with vicki nichols then sandra bushmaker Vicky, you've been unmuted. |
| 00:41:30.82 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you, Mayor and Council members. I wanted to know if there could be some clarification. It's now been said that in relation to the machine shop, you're looking at acquiring that. I'd like to bring up another point and that is that, If the Veterans Administration is not pressed to do the maintenance work that has been required of them, there will be little to acquire. And at the point that it loses its historic integrity, um, you don't have the resource that it is NOW. So I think there's two things going on here. They, they, they have been admittedly as an agency. They are notorious for letting their buildings go by neglect into where they need to be demolished. and I just can't encourage you enough that they have to be pressed to do this. When we did this before it was under HLB, we had to get another agency in to call and remind them and I'd be happy to talk with you about that. But the San Francisco branch, while it's controlled by The East Coast is a little bit of a renegade branch and this maintenance, IS It's long overdue, it's documented, and it's required. So the fact that we'd even be considering buying this without it being stabilized, I think the two have to either work parallel or you might want to reconsider what you would be buying. It's on them to do the rehab. Thank you. |
| 00:43:16.97 | Jill Hoffman | Okay? Thank you. And next. is I believe next up is Sandra Bushmaker, is that right? Thank you. |
| 00:43:25.90 | Heidi Scoble | Yes, you are correct, Madam Mayor Sandra you've been unmuted. |
| 00:43:29.51 | Sandra Bushmaker | Okay. I'm back. I'm here. Let's see. Start my video. Good evening, everybody. Mayor Hoffman, Vice Mayor Kelman and Council. I want to concur state my concurrence with the issues raised by Vicki Nichols just prior to me with regard to the machine shop. When I think of demolition of the machine shop, I think of a toxic nightmare. I'm wondering if the committee raised these issues with Hoffman about the toxic cleanup that was never ever completed. and that I know the VA did some paint chip removal But frankly, that's just the drop in the bucket. So I'm hoping that the city proceeds with caution and with assurances that this will be cleaned up properly before acquisition. So thank you. I, I am dubious that this will be a good project for Sausalito. However, I remain hopeful and I just want to raise the caution about the toxicity contained in that site. If any of you have ever taken a tour through there, and I have years ago, It's a pretty shocking experience. It was obviously a heavy metal workshop, lots of chemicals, lots of odors. at the time, I don't know what it's like now, But anyway, it's an issue that we need to be prepared for. And I hope we don't just jump into it and then say, we'll get money to clean it up later. So thanks a lot. Thank you. |
| 00:45:13.31 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, we have Alice Merrill who has raised her hand. Alice, you've been unmuted. |
| 00:45:19.86 | Alice Merrill | Thank you very much. I have a little anecdote about that building. I was walking by years ago And there was that nice friendly guy who was the guard there. I don't know if anybody remembers him, but, |
| 00:45:35.32 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 00:45:35.70 | Alice Merrill | I do, and I chatted with him, I said, so what's the story here? And he said, well, that they were just hanging on to it. And I said, the city sort of thinks they want it. And he said, okay. And I said, so why doesn't the government just, since it's so toxic and so bad, so bad. Why doesn't the government tear it down? And use this space for something that is creative, new, different. And he said, well, they won't do that. And I said, why not? And he said, because they. Um, because they're waiting for it to fall down. And I said, why are they waiting for it to fall down? And he said, because That way they will get the insurance to clean it up. And I said, what is that about? And he said, well, they can't get insurance if they choose to knock it down, but they can get insurance if it falls down. I rather think he probably knew what he was talking about. So that's my little anecdote about that building. Thank you. |
| 00:46:41.75 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:46:45.28 | Jill Hoffman | Any do we have I see no other hands matter clerk Madam Mayor, you are correct. Okay, at this point then I will close public comment. |
| 00:46:52.93 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:46:55.73 | Jill Hoffman | and move us on to the next item on our agenda, which is our consent calendar. item five on our consent calendar. Um, Matters listed under the consent calendar are considered routine and non-controversial, require no discussion, are expected to have unanimous counsel support, It may be enacted by the Council in one motion. There will be no separate discussion of consent calendar items. However, before the Council votes on a motion to adopt the consent calendar items, Council members, city staff or members of the public may request the specific items to be removed from the consent calendar for separate action. Items removed from the consent calendar will be discussed later on the agenda and public comment will be heard on any item that was removed from the consent calendar. Um, There are nine items listed on the consent calendar. items 5A through 5I. And at this point, I will open up public comment on for matters on the consent calendar. |
| 00:48:01.99 | Jill Hoffman | Madam Clerk, do we have... I'll let you call people for matters on |
| 00:48:06.03 | Heidi Scoble | in St. Calder, Ben Clark. Thank you, Madam Mayor. It looks like we have two hands that are raised at this time. The order will be Wendy Richards, then Sandra Bushmaker. when you've been unmuted. |
| 00:48:20.96 | Wendy Richards | Thank you very much, council members and mayor. I would like to request the removal of two items on the consent calendar. One is the contract with the legal counsel And in that regard, I concur with both Sondra Bushmaker and Pat Zoot's points raised in their letters. I believe it is critical that we have the opportunity to have an open process for selecting legal counsel. And. to actually have a quality review before committing to anything. And the second item I would like to remove is the contract extension contract with the PR agency because of the quality of the contract. It's... states that there's no limit, it's a blank check. The services are limited to one sentence. The fees are from 300 to 400, no specificity whatsoever. I mean, it's a contract you could drive a fleet of EV vehicles through it so wide open. And I'm sure that the person providing the services does an awesome job, but this is a work quality contract. Back to the legal matter, I would also like to point out that despite the of rates staying the same. There is a there's a, A new. category of rates in that contract. So basically there's like, Today, |
| 00:49:49.99 | Ian Sobieski | today. |
| 00:49:52.24 | Wendy Richards | We have Mary and she does all the work. and Mary's rates are gonna stay the same. But if you read the contract, there's now a distinction between general work and special work. And so even if the general work stays the same, I want to know what percent of our legal bills are going to be over here. Because that's $100 more an hour. Now, whether those rates are fair or market or whatever, we have no information and no staff work has been done. But the biggest deal is that the contract differentiates things like the things you do in behind closed doors, that's gonna be charged at the higher rate. Things for public works. Anything that requires something special is going to be over here. out. What I'm asking for is visibility and transparency. Not like playing hide the ball. you know, this contract says, well, Mary's rates are going to stay the same. Down at the bottom, it says, oh, but we're going to add $5 every year. So they're really not staying the same. And oh, by the way, there's a 4% admin cost built into it. That's not clear and concise, and I request that you remove both of these from the consent calendar and have them corrected. Thank you, and thank you for your service. |
| 00:51:22.64 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 00:51:28.36 | Heidi Scoble | Sandra Bushmaker, you've been unmuted. |
| 00:51:33.12 | Sandra Bushmaker | Okay, I'm just getting my video on. Okay? We have to double click these days. All right. I concur with the comments that Wendy Richards has just made. I think from judging from the correspondence in your packet, this is hardly an uncontroversial issue. and demands further analysis and and questions being asked. I read the contract. to state that Ms. Wagner's fees are going to go up in January by $40 an hour. for one item. So there is, there are a number of issues that I think need development, your correspondence in your packet. lays out some of those issues. And so I would request that that be pulled off the consent calendar and set on another calendar. are. so that we can have opportunity to further examine the packet that's in your agenda packet. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:52:34.36 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. Madam Mayor, we have another hand raised, Laura Newlin. Lorna, you've been unmuted. |
| 00:52:44.62 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. Um, I'm not sure if I'm going back to the agenda. This is a consent calendar item, but it was on the closed session and it was section D5. existing litigation initiation pursuant to California, blah, blah, blah. Name of case, Whiskey Springs, HOA versus Sausalito. And I'm wondering, am I allowed to ask what that's about considering I live in Whiskey Springs and I don't know. And if that's closed, then I'll understand. |
| 00:53:18.35 | Jill Hoffman | Yes, Ms. Newland, that's on closed session so we wouldn't be able to discuss it here. you might want to send an email to maybe our city manager. about, at least stating your question, then she can respond to it. |
| 00:53:38.04 | Janelle Kellman | Well, and actually I have a questioned our property manager because I do go to all my homeowner. |
| 00:53:44.32 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you, Ms. Doolin. Yeah, we can't discuss it on this. I'm sorry. Yeah. Thank you so much, though, for your interest. question. Okay. Our next speaker is It's Monica Finnegan. |
| 00:53:56.66 | Heidi Scoble | I'm not sure. Thank you. |
| 00:53:57.53 | Julie | Thank you. |
| 00:53:57.57 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 00:54:01.53 | Heidi Scoble | Monica, you've been unmuted. |
| 00:54:03.41 | Monica Finnegan | Thank you. Um, I was trying to, there we go. Hi, good evening. i probably submitted a note too late from eda regarding 5B. which is the request for information for the Bank of America. And one of the things we would ask the city council to consider is an interim leasing program for the B of A building. because if you look at sort of the rational timeframe for And finally, uh, agreeing and negotiating with a prospective tenant. It's probably 12 to 18 months from today. And we think that there are some really great uses that could be considered for short term leasing. And I'm not sure, I don't see in the copy of the agenda that I received, I don't see that that late mail was distributed to you all. We had a meeting with the artist community last Friday, April 22nd. and from members of Galileo Studios and independent studios, ICB and whatnot. And a number of them were really requesting an opportunity to have some sort of art exhibitions throughout the city. And this might be a perfect venue to do it, especially during the summer and the coming months. So we would ask that that consideration be discussed amongst you all as an interim leasing program for the Bank of America building. So. Thank you. Okay, thank you. |
| 00:55:44.00 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:55:47.88 | Heidi Scoble | I don't see any other hands. I'm going to marry you. |
| 00:55:50.63 | Jill Hoffman | And I think that's a good thing. I'm not sure. |
| 00:55:51.52 | Heidi Scoble | there are no hands that are raised |
| 00:55:52.97 | Jill Hoffman | time. Okay, thank you. Okay, I'm closing public comment and I'm asking for either council comments or if there's a motion to approve the agenda. Yes, Council Member Cleveland Knowles. |
| 00:56:12.80 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you, Mayor Hoffman. I just had a quick question on item B5B, the RFI, and I mean, I think, Well, Just one question. Normally when we do like an RFI or an RFP, the contract or the agreement provides that the submittals are confidential until there's a decision and then they're all made. kind of standard language to encourage people to submit their their business proposals. And there's an exception under the Brown Act. So I was just wondering, there wasn't that standard language in this RFI and I didn't know staff |
| 00:56:46.60 | Unknown | Amen. |
| 00:56:52.71 | Ian Sobieski | and I don't know. |
| 00:56:53.03 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:56:54.72 | Cleveland Knowles | could just address that issue or those subcommittee. |
| 00:56:58.84 | Jill Hoffman | I don't remember that we had a specific, the subcommittee had a specific issue with not including that. I see Charlie Francis is on, he's the one that helped us draft. or the city manager, either one. Charlie, you're. |
| 00:57:14.80 | Charlie Francis | Go Charlie. Charlie? Thank you. I did add a sentence at the bottom of the RFI. saying that the Proposals will be confidential until the end of the process. |
| 00:57:26.65 | Cleveland Knowles | Okay. Okay, great. Thanks. And then, Mayor, I think with Ms. Finnegan's comment and the EDAC letter that we weren't able to look at, that would probably be a separate discussion that we could have at another time, I think, is that correct? Yeah, that's the way they came to it. The RFI is sort of the long-term thing, and then we could discuss other uses at a meeting. Okay, thank you. |
| 00:57:44.38 | Jill Hoffman | America. |
| 00:57:50.44 | Ian Sobieski | Well, you know, to that point, I'm trying to quickly find the language in here. Maybe Charlie can... find it quicker than I can, but I thought the language was written in such a way that it would actually encourage and consider short-term uses. There was a welcome It was meant to be broad. that. It's like, can't afford to say that because I'm trying to find the language here. that I'm remembering, but I thought it was there. I think... |
| 00:58:19.89 | Charlie Francis | Right. Uh. There's no language in there, council member, that considers an interim use between now and when we actually lease the building, the end of the process. And that's what I believe Ms. Finnegan was asking for is that during the RFI process, would we consider, you know, an interim tenant? |
| 00:58:42.28 | Jill Hoffman | think yeah i mean and council member sobieski my recollection is we We ask people to think about long-term and short-term uses. |
| 00:58:50.82 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:58:50.84 | Ian Sobieski | Right. |
| 00:58:51.31 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:58:51.38 | Jill Hoffman | I think it is a good thing to consider that. I think Charlie did. Ms. Finnegan's suggestion that we look at even before we start leasing it pursuant to an RFI, can we do something in the interim? I think that would be something that you and I might discuss and that we might bring it back to the city council if we have some parameters we think would work. in the context of processes that are going on. I think it's something that we're considering and I think that council member Sobieski and I should address that as this. |
| 00:59:27.25 | Ian Sobieski | Tell me if you disagree, Mayor, but I thought that when you use the word short term, it would have incorporated Monica's suggestion, which is obviously any short term use would involve very minimal TIs, if any. It's sort of use as is and we would welcome those proposals along with longer term proposals. |
| 00:59:46.02 | Jill Hoffman | I think it's too, I think she was thinking though more of even before we're finished with the RFI process, do we want to see if we can. have some sort of, use in their I don't want to digress into that. I see Ms. Venegan's back with her hand up. I'm going to call it timeout. |
| 01:00:02.91 | Janelle Kellman | I'm sorry. out. Yeah, are we pulling this off the consent? I mean, we're kind of going down on. |
| 01:00:05.17 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. Yeah. |
| 01:00:08.92 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:00:08.97 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. |
| 01:00:09.19 | Janelle Kellman | I don't think we need to. I think council members |
| 01:00:11.97 | Jill Hoffman | I can talk with Ms. Finnegan and you know, and figure it out. I don't think we are pulling this off, |
| 01:00:18.64 | Janelle Kellman | I don't think. |
| 01:00:20.16 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:00:20.24 | Janelle Kellman | I'm not sure. |
| 01:00:20.31 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:00:20.34 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:00:20.38 | Jill Hoffman | Great. |
| 01:00:20.39 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. And Mayor, I have a follow up on that or another item on the Brazier Communications contract. I'm not requesting to get pulled off of consent either, but I did want to see if there was something that either you or Council Member Blaustein who have worked closely with that consultant felt you could share that would be helpful Uh, in, you know, understanding the contract and, you know, if not, that's, that's fine too, but I just want to throw that out there. |
| 01:00:43.49 | Jill Hoffman | Bye. You know, I don't think I don't have anything to call. I don't have any comments on the actual contract itself. Um, We have been working with them in the context of some of the efforts here in Sausalito and I found them to be helpful and responsive. Yeah, and helpful. That's all I can say. Okay. |
| 01:01:04.99 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. So I make a motion to approve if there are no, oh, I'm sorry, Mayor. |
| 01:01:06.36 | Jill Hoffman | you |
| 01:01:09.68 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 01:01:09.70 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:01:09.72 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 01:01:09.85 | Jill Hoffman | I was gonna ask if there's emotion |
| 01:01:10.58 | Cleveland Knowles | I'm not. Great, I'll make a motion to approve the consent calendar. Okay. |
| 01:01:15.88 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 01:01:19.02 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 01:01:19.05 | Jill Hoffman | I can say. Okay. um, Madam Clerk, can you call the roll, please? Thank you. |
| 01:01:24.91 | Heidi Scoble | Council Member Sobieski. |
| 01:01:26.36 | Ian Sobieski | Yes. |
| 01:01:27.47 | Heidi Scoble | Councilmember Blaustein. Yes. |
| 01:01:29.41 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:01:30.16 | Heidi Scoble | Council member Cleveland Knowles. Yes. Vice Mayor Kellerman? |
| 01:01:35.23 | Janelle Kellman | Yes. |
| 01:01:36.08 | Heidi Scoble | Mayor Hoffman. |
| 01:01:36.80 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:01:37.14 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 01:01:37.19 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. motion passes 5-0. Okay, moving on to our Next item on the agenda, which is, Item seven. Item six, public hearing items. There are no public hearings tonight, so we're moving straight on to item seven, which is... We have two items on our business items, which is 7A, housing element update, and the item 7B is our an update from our interim assistant city manager administrative services director charlie francis which will be a short update on where we are with our budget and our schedule going forward which will be very robust in the next six weeks. |
| 01:02:14.96 | Unknown | and then I go, |
| 01:02:17.42 | Jill Hoffman | Community Development Director, Lily Whalen will be giving this presentation. Welcome, Lily. It's nice to see you again. |
| 01:02:23.99 | Lily Whalen | Good evening Mayor and Council members. I'm just pulling up my screen here. |
| 01:02:32.98 | Lily Whalen | I think I have the two computers working. Great. Perfect. Okay. |
| 01:02:42.78 | Lily Whalen | So good evening. I am Lily Whelan, your community development director. The item this evening is to form and begin recruiting for a housing element advisory committee. In terms of background, very briefly, a housing element is one of seven general plan elements mandated by state law and is required to be revisited and updated with new housing goals every eight years. The main purpose of the plan is to adequately plan to meet the existing and the Um, the projected needs of all economic segments of our community. |
| 01:03:17.06 | Cleveland Knowles | Billy, I'm not sure if you meant this. Oh, there you go. You just switched. Your notes were showing. |
| 01:03:21.99 | Lily Whalen | Thank you. |
| 01:03:22.00 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 01:03:22.34 | Lily Whalen | thing. |
| 01:03:23.01 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 01:03:23.03 | Lily Whalen | Thank you. |
| 01:03:23.05 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 01:03:23.07 | Lily Whalen | I think I don't know. |
| 01:03:23.10 | Cleveland Knowles | No, they're not. Thank you. |
| 01:03:24.33 | Lily Whalen | Yep. Great. So it's also important to remember that the city is required to set the table for housing, but not required to build the housing itself. were required to ensure that the tables set again for housing to to be built. In Sausalito. |
| 01:03:45.12 | Lily Whalen | On February 9th, the city council received a staff report on the upcoming housing element update The council then formed a proposal review ad hoc committee made up of Vice Mayor Kallman, and council member Cleveland Knowles, in addition to planning commission Chair Feller and Commissioner Luxembourg to work with staff to review and circulate the RFP for consultant help. and provide a recommendation on consultant assistance for the work that's needed to prepare the housing element and then also to provide recommendations on formation of a housing element. Advisory Committee. going to give a very brief update on the search for the project consultant and then the main item tonight which is the formation of the housing element. |
| 01:04:26.48 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:04:26.53 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:04:26.57 | Unknown | I'm not sure. |
| 01:04:31.05 | Lily Whalen | Advisory Committee. |
| 01:04:35.22 | Lily Whalen | Due to the extensive and technical requirements of the housing element law. in addition to a compressed schedule this cycle and anticipated over 900% allocation RHNA over the prior cycle. expanded HDD oversight and new requirements for identifying eligible sites. The assistance of a qualified consultant is required for this update. it's important that the city commence the process immediately to select the qualified consultant that can help the city achieve the goals of the state of California. after the ad hoc committee review and collaboration on the, finalization of the RFP. In early March, staff circulated the RFP to 15 firms and then also on the city's website. Unfortunately, we did not receive any proposals for the work. And we also reached out to other communities in the Bay Area in addition to We have been working on the A number of communities are having a challenging time securing a consultant team to do the work. this year due to the anticipated higher arena. and all the challenges that I briefly mentioned. The proposal review committee. recommended a re-release of the RFP to a select and limited number of firms. And we have a deadline of May 10th for the proposals to be received. and staff will be providing an update to the council at the last meeting in May or beginning of June regarding the consultant search process. This is a graphic here that shows the timeline for the RFP release and the review of the proposals and selection of consultant, which takes us from tonight to when the work would begin in June. |
| 01:06:23.70 | Lily Whalen | One of the most important components of the housing element update is public engagement in the planning process. and a critical factor in the selection of a housing consultant to assist with the update will be their proposed community engagement program, which is expected through the RFP to be robust, innovative, and exhaustive. and to provide a forum for community engagement, review body to provide comments and feedback for the draft element. and then also to communicate information about the update to the community, a formal housing element, advisory committee is recommended to be formed. The fourth and the fifth housing element updates benefited from a review body to provide these functions. And there's just a blurb here on the screen about those bodies that were formed for the fourth and the fifth cycles. and how they were composed here. It's also in the staff report. one of the most, um, important components of housing element update is public engagement and the planning process as I mentioned. The proposal review ad hoc committee discussed the formation of the housing element advisory committee to guide the update and is recommending the council tonight consider a number of factors when forming the Those factors were included in attachment one of your Pack it. and then also incorporate it into the draft resolution and attachment too. the ad hoc committee's recommendations for the purpose and responsibility of the housing advisory committee are to first review and front guidance to city staff and the consultant on goals and policies related to the update of the housing element Also to ensure sufficient public outreach and stakeholder input regarding the housing element update. to provide assistance to the department with grant writing and to close the budget gap hopefully on the cost of the housing element update. to also relay information from the consultant to the council regarding technical expertise in new state legislation and then also to provide benchmarking with other communities in the county. And then finally to work with staff to dialogue with the county on potential for collaborative approaches to this work and this effort. |
| 01:08:40.53 | Lily Whalen | The ad hoc committee also thought that it was important that the housing element committee provide regular updates to the community and interested stakeholders. In addition to well notice workshops and other opportunities for community involvement and input. including small scale outreach to various groups. Sausalito. A part of the committee's mission will also be to conduct outreach and seek feedback from underrepresented and city boards and commissions. We are now working with Some of the potential stakeholders are on the screen here, the committee should aim to connect with. They include service in other community organizations, parent and school groups, BIPOC communities, single-person households, seniors, marine workers, DEI advocates, water and land-based neighborhood groups and leaders our boards and commission members, affordable housing developers, supportive housing providers and recipients community volunteers and then others with environmental backgrounds are on the list of those in addition to others that we should reach out to in this process. |
| 01:09:56.88 | Lily Whalen | The ad hoc committee also thought it was important to ensure that membership to the committee was inclusive and representative And to that end, the selection process will be aim to be as inclusive of as many demographics as possible. So income levels, background races, ages, household types. And the selection process should also ensure that there's input represented across all of our neighborhoods and then also from residents of differing housing types. For example, a membership on the committee could include representatives who both rent and own their homes, live in a single family, multifamily, or mixed use commercial residential types housing, live on the water, live on the land, are a special needs population, such as senior housing residents, senior residents not living in senior housing, single person households, workers and others including housing advocates, families with young kids, people experiencing homelessness and people who would like to move to Sausalito and then also people would like to stay in Sausalito. The selection process was envisioned to include a questionnaire to allow applicants to indicate the key pieces of information about themselves and why they're interested in serving on the community. |
| 01:11:14.48 | Lily Whalen | The committee and members of it would also be subject to the requirements of chapter 258 of the municipal code which establishes policies and procedures governing city boards commissions and committees This includes the requirement that members be Saucilito residents. The ad hoc committee did not forward a recommendation on residency requirements. However, they would like to ensure the council that the council is aware that this residency requirement could be waived through the resolution establishing the |
| 01:11:41.01 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:11:44.44 | Lily Whalen | and recommends council discussion if the council would like to include membership of non-Sausalito residents. If non-residents are considered the ad hoc group is recommending that they should be in relative close proximity. Um, in the city's general plan sphere of influence or 949.65 or work in Sausalito. And lastly, in terms of committee size, the ad hoc committee recommends a group size of seven to nine members, including two city council members and two planning commissioners on. the board. And staff is recommending after discussing and making any modifications as appropriate, We're seeking council adoption of the draft resolution in attachment two, which would establish the housing element advisory committee. |
| 01:12:37.29 | Lily Whalen | Thank you for your patience. The ad hoc committee also thought it was important to ensure memberships of the committee was inclusive and representative. And so to that, oops, sorry, I'm on the wrong slide here. I'm going backwards, I think. Oh no, here we're on the mailer, sorry. So we also were looking at how to advertise for the committee itself and then the housing element update. And, um, We Sorry, I'm going backwards here. So there's a variety of ways to advertise that we're included on the screen here. This is all the work that we did with the general plan update. And we use direct mailers, advertisements, and |
| 01:13:18.50 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:13:21.45 | Lily Whalen | the newspaper flyers at city meetings, announcements at meetings, and then using our city website and social media. accounts and we're envisioning doing the same for this effort here. |
| 01:13:41.97 | Lily Whalen | Yes. Just getting to this timeline. So this timeline here shows if we started immediately after the council meeting this evening, advertising for the committee and starting to develop the mailers and getting those out next week. that we could close the recruitment on May 17th and have interviews. at the end of May and appointments in the beginning of June with the council. |
| 01:14:15.47 | Lily Whalen | The ad hoc committee briefly discussed the interview and appointment process and is recommending the council consider a selection process similar to the GPAC process that we put in place a few years ago. And so through that process, there was a cutoff point with applications. If we received a certain number of applications with GPAC, it was 14. then the applications were vetted through the task force that we had set up. So we're suggesting that the council consider this approach. which would be if we receive 15 or fewer applications that staff prepares a matrix that identifies the candidate's area of expertise and interests and their location. And then the council will interview all the candidates and appoints the three to five members to make up the body. the balance of the body. And then if we receive more than 15 applications, We would still prepare the matrix. The ad hoc committee would select their top 15 choices and forward those on to the council for interviews. The council would then interview the 15. who were recommended by the ad hoc committee and then appoint three to five members. And so we're seeking concurrence on or modification to the approach I just discussed. tonight as well. And that brings me to our staff recommendations, which is to review and modify as appropriate the draft resolution, which establishes the Housing All-Init Advisory Committee. and also to provide direction on the initial notification approach to the community and solicitation for membership to the committee. And then finally to provide direction on the recommended approach for selection of members to the committee and directing staff to coordinate the interviews and selection at an upcoming council meeting. That concludes my staff presentation. I'm available for any questions you might have. |
| 01:16:15.59 | Jill Hoffman | Thanks, Lily, for that wonderful presentation. And your very colorful and pleasing slides. I felt like I was in a little bit in an artist community when I was seeing some of those graphics. So well done on those. Okay, and well done on the summary. And okay, I don't have any questions. I obviously will have some comments for discussion, but does anybody? Yes, Council Member Blousey, I see your hand. |
| 01:16:45.12 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you for this presentation, Lillian. Also, thank you to the members of the subcommittee for getting this important conversation going. I'm really pleased to see that there is a lot of emphasis on |
| 01:16:50.47 | Unknown | Bye. Thank you. |
| 01:16:55.33 | Melissa Blaustein | previously or generally marginalized communities that don't have the opportunity to participate necessarily or aren't heavily recruited for boards and commissions. I'm wondering though, in looking at our current boards and commissions application, at no point do we ask folks, do they identify with a specific community? And we also don't necessarily specifically ask them what type of housing they live in or even more sensitively, are you someone who is currently unhoused? So do we have a plan for how we might... word these questions and also is this something we might consider carrying over to all of our boards and commissions going forward in an effort to have a more diverse group of applicants considered |
| 01:17:32.54 | Lily Whalen | Thank you, Councilmember Ballestine. So I would, it's a great question and something I think that needs to be really thoughtfully done. I would look to our neighbors that have have, done this recently. and tried to provide some equity on their boards and commissions and look to how they they asked those types of sensitive questions. That's where I would start. We haven't put that together yet, the questionnaire, but it's a great question and something that we should be really mindful of. |
| 01:18:02.71 | Melissa Blaustein | Perhaps Mayor Hoffman and I as members of the DEI Task Force could think about that. I don't know if it's allowed under the Brown Act, but just the questions in general. |
| 01:18:11.33 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, well, you, let's say you're not on this subcommittee, so I think we, I think any council member can put, I mean, yeah, I completely agree with what you're saying. Um, We might. And One solution might be, and I don't know, Lily, you can weigh in on this too, since you've been down this road many times with boards and commissions and applications and things. is we might say, you know, there might be like a, a summary in the application, you know, in the application form. We are specifically looking to hit these demographics of inclusivity Should you wish to share your personal situation this is a place to share it. It's not required, but if you wish to, this is where you might want to share it. I'm just throwing it out. Yes, Councilmember, or sorry, Vice Mayor. |
| 01:19:04.02 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, oh, and that's a great, great question and really thoughtful and probably something we wanna think about, like you said, for all the boards and commissions. Just to shed some light on this, we wanted to be, cognizant of the fact that residents of Saucyutu have different housing experiences and different housing types and that we have changing demographics and In many ways, it's from a demographic standpoint, young families, older families, somewhere in between. We have a lot more variety than maybe we did the last time. |
| 01:19:28.50 | Unknown | RECORDING TO THE FEDERAL |
| 01:19:28.55 | Ian Sobieski | We have a great day. |
| 01:19:28.60 | Unknown | have a lot of time. |
| 01:19:31.27 | Janelle Kellman | We had our housing element update. And so we actually sat and brainstormed. What are what are all the ways that somebody who lives in Sausalito may characterize themselves and you know, let's get their voices here as well. So it was something we thought about in that respect. So that was just the genesis of it. But I love where your where your head is thinking. |
| 01:19:54.45 | Cleveland Knowles | Yeah, I agree. Maybe we can talk about this more when we have discussion, but I would be happy to have the, we've already identified all of the characteristics and types of housing that we wanted to make sure. people were able to identify. So I'd be, you know, I don't want to speak for the, for the vice mayor, but I would be happy to have the DEI group subcommittee. separately just review it before it goes out for sensitive you know for tone and sensitivity and work with the city attorney on whether we can perhaps allow people to keep information confidential if they request that. |
| 01:20:33.32 | Jill Hoffman | Mm-hmm. Okay. |
| 01:20:35.58 | Cleveland Knowles | However it works. |
| 01:20:35.78 | Jill Hoffman | HOW ARE YOU? Thank you. Any other questions from the council for Lily before we open up for public comment? I'm seeing nothing, so let's open up for public comment on this matter. Thank you. |
| 01:20:59.05 | Jill Hoffman | Is it possible that I'm seeing no public comment on this? Just to confirm. |
| 01:21:04.13 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, you are correct. There are no hands that are raised at the moment. |
| 01:21:08.05 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, in that case then we will close public comment. and we will bring it back up to the city council for discussion on this important item. Yes, Councilmember Cleveland Knowles. |
| 01:21:20.57 | Cleveland Knowles | Yeah, so I just wanted to, as a member of the subcommittee that brought this proposal, helped with the staff, at first I wanted to thank Lily and her staff. They were really great and well-prepared throughout this process. and thank the two members from the planning commission that were part of the subgroup with the vice mayor and I. So we've met several times and it was a really good and efficient process. So thanks to everyone for that. I did just want to note the There wasn't a recommendation from the committee on whether non-residents would be allowed at the table. I just wanted to express my very strong support for allowing non-residents to apply and be represented. We've spoken about this at prior meetings, but we have a very significant lack of diversity in Marin, and especially in Sausalito. And I think one of our biggest challenges, and we talked a lot about this in the general plan is how to attract retain people of all economic and demographic segments of the population. and how to build a more diverse and inclusive city. I think it's important to hold the applications open to people who are not already residents We talked about people who work here, don't live here and perhaps might wanna live here. We also talked about some kind of a geographic proximity such as any resident of the 94965 as possible factors that we might use. I took to sort of limit the number of people but and keep it to folks that might have an interest in what our housing situation and our housing opportunities. look like in Sausalito. I think we're probably gonna have this conversation a lot more, but sort of how important it is who is at the table. and who is in the room when we're making these decisions. We had not so much time for this discussion at the subcommittee and I think there was a lot of wasn't enough time to really gel on a recommendation. So we just decided to bring it forward to the council for discussion. But that's my feeling I'd love to hold. all of the positions are at least a fixed number open. to people who don't currently live in Sausalito. |
| 01:23:55.82 | Jill Hoffman | Okay? Um, I'm going to throw out an idea that Because of the Brown Act, we can't discuss these things, right, until we get in here. So this is why this is kind of – I'm just going to throw it out and see what you guys think about it. Um, You know, we've talked a lot about affordable housing at some points in other discussions that we've had we've talked about our efforts in affordable housing and a focus or a policy or in an effort to prioritize what type of affordable housing we want. Maybe we want to discuss how we would articulate a preference or policy for projects that are 100% affordable. as opposed to a project that would give us only 10% affordable housing. So it's something I've been thinking about you know, how to articulate that. You know, obviously it would be a partnership with a nonprofit and so that we could get it up to a high number of affordable and very low income units. You know, I'm raising it now because I think this is the beginning of our discussion and we're talking about different lines of effort. I know. I'm raising it. I'll weigh in on that. Especially the two people on the committee |
| 01:25:27.36 | Janelle Kellman | Oh yeah, I'll weigh in. Thank you, Mayor Hoffman. I think that's an amazing idea and I think it's important to raise it early because it really will impact how we, you know, package our approach and the project financing opportunities. how we're able to leverage the opportunity around state grants, not to go into too much detail about it, but if we, you know, have there's an example parcels that either the city owns or we make a contribution as a city. then that allows us to qualify for certain investment tax credits that then allows us to have more flexibility around the affordability. The other thing I want to point out is that when we look at our Reno numbers, where we're actually missing units is in that, I think the low to moderate income Right? I do have to think about our overall housing stock. in terms of where we are not currently complying with what's required, as opposed to just thinking, oh, we need to just come out with 700 units, regardless of the price point. So we'll want to give some thought to those layers of what is required. So I like this idea of thinking, early around how do we structure this? to focus on affordable housing, because I think that that has So many of those great fallouts that I think Councilmember Cleveland Knowles was hoping to get out with maybe committee composition. I think if you focus on affordable housing, you actually can create that. |
| 01:26:58.52 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. yeah just to clarify i guess my point wasn't necessarily about affordable housing as um has been widely discussed at some other meetings. Diversity is not necessarily about affordability. It can be closely tied, but there's It's definitely not the only issue. I think there's two separate things and I'm definitely interested in the discussion about 100% affordable housing and how we can attract a development here to town. So, you know, and I think to the mayor's point, maybe some of these discussions for the housing element that have broader policy. implications we might want to front load those at the council and give direction. Thank you. housing element took subcommittee. as opposed to the other way around. I mean, if there, you know, maybe at the beginning we can try to see if there are big issues that we might want to make sure are included and have a council discussion about it. |
| 01:28:05.31 | Janelle Kellman | I may have one more thing. On the, um, Oh, one thing that we spent a lot of time on at the subcommittee was the public outreach and the workshops. And we really wanted to kind of painstakingly try to identify groups. And we thought, OK, well, we don't go to detail because we're going to miss somebody. But but I hope everybody got that sense from the excellent staff report that director Whalen provided to us, but that We really want to provide extensive public outreach, several, many, as many opportunities as possible to get feedback. And so for me, I think that's our opportunity to get people who are outside of Sausalito. to weigh in on what it looks like and to hear all the voices And I think we have a robust workshop and public outreach and communication plan. then we can hear from as many diverse groups as possible. So I just want to call everybody's attention to that because that was made with intention that it should be such a robust workshop process and outreach plan. |
| 01:29:07.67 | Janelle Kellman | I just... |
| 01:29:07.97 | Melissa Blaustein | Councilmember Blausin, go ahead. Thank you, Mayor Hoffman. I just wanted to add on. I really appreciate your early approach to exploring all opportunities that we might have for affordable housing in our community. And I wanted to let you know, I mean, this is obviously an issue that I'm very passionate about. And so there are a number of affordable housing specific developers that have ongoing projects already in the Bay Area. For instance, Bridge Housing has a couple of successful projects. So it might be useful to begin conversations with them. Additionally, the Turner Center at UC Berkeley is doing some fantastic work around considerations for housing. And while we are currently not meeting our mid-income tier based on the 900% expected increase for the arena numbers, it's likely that we won't be meeting any of our tiers. So we should probably really aggressively consider all of the options. As it speaks to whether or not we would have a resident or non-resident serving on the housing element committee themselves, I would really push for a resident from Marin City because we share schools with residents from Marin City, so there will be Children coming and going between the two communities. So what our housing picture looks like is directly correlated to the folks in our community next door and we talk a lot about building bridges and creating strong partnerships and I think it would be really important to have a voice on the on the committee that represents that. Obviously, I think I would echo Council member Cleveland Knowles' comments about the differences between diversity and affordability. But I am really happy to see that we're, and thank you so much to Vice Mayor Kelman and Council Member Cleveland Knowles and the members of the subcommittee for really considering how do we engage as many voices, diverse group of voices as possible in the makeup of this committee. So I would like to see as many robust and open conversations at the Council level on these issues sooner rather than later because this is going to be I believe probably the most challenging issue that we'll see for the next couple of years in the community. So anyway, I really appreciate everyone's perspective and I really appreciate you bringing this up, Mayor Hoffman, the 100% affordability. It's something we should immediately explore. |
| 01:31:14.31 | Jill Hoffman | So I'm sorry, Councilmember Sobieski, you're an expert. on the non-resident. Thank you. |
| 01:31:20.83 | Ian Sobieski | All right. |
| 01:31:21.11 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Do you mind if I go ahead or do you want to wait? |
| 01:31:23.34 | Ian Sobieski | I don't wanna wait. |
| 01:31:24.17 | Jill Hoffman | Sorry, I added my notes and I just Gloss over. So I think the goals that were set out in the in the attachment from the update committee are all really great, really, really great goals. And, you know, they work clearly, you guys work really hard on it along with staff to bring this together. Again, this is a super impactful, process for our town and it um It, it, It brings out everybody in town because it impacts everybody in town and is going to impact everybody in town. So with regard to the issue of I like that that became part of the discussion that we're considering whether or not we want to have somebody outside of Sausalito, outside of Sausalito city limits, to participate in all of our boards and commissions, which I think we've talked about in the past and We have started that process. I think this is different. And, The only reason I say that is because the decisions that are made are clearly have. impact on people's property here in Sausalito. So when you're talking about zoning or rezoning you have, I think it's important to have people that, that it will directly affect. So, But that's not to say, so in that sense, I think that we should Um, you know, continue on with the municipal code that requires city residents. But that's not to say that we couldn't appoint Um, you know, a representative that would serve a non-voting representative or Certainly these are going to be Brown Act meetings, and so representatives from whatever communities we should recruit to participate in the meetings. However it is we want to do it. or actually however it is the committee decides would bring that voice to the process. but, The decisions of the committee have to have credibility with people inside Sausalito. I mean, residents of Sausalito. And so I think in order to have that. you have to have residents making the recommendations and decisions on the committee. So I would be in favor of complying with the municipal code on that issue. So anyway, sorry, my apologies, Council Member Sobieski. Um, |
| 01:34:03.27 | Ian Sobieski | You know, I don't mind going last because I was listening intently to the discussion. And if you want to have more of it, I'm all ears. My natural reflex was to be inclined to be in favor of just having residents on this committee because of some of the reasons that you highlighted there. |
| 01:34:03.40 | Jill Hoffman | I know. |
| 01:34:19.15 | Ian Sobieski | but I was then suddenly persuaded by what both council member Cleveland Knowles and Blavstein had articulated I hadn't fully considered some of that perspective. To me, there's no way The five people are going to represent all the different categories that were outlined in that document of renters, homeowners, unhoused. uh, and all workers aspirant, residents, so on and so forth. There are a lot of categories to me The criteria for who's on this committee are people who are most likely to draw from the broader Um, constituency of residents, all the perspectives that our town has and fairly integrates them into an engagement on this. subject. So to me, when it gets around to interviewing folks, it will be I think, at least right now, as I sit, thinking it'll be less important trying to figure out Thank you. |
| 01:35:20.22 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:35:20.35 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. who represents what then, whether they bring a fair-minded, open-minded, engaged approach to the topics at hand. Um, I still have to admit I have a bias towards having residents on this committee, but it seems like the to. the it'll actually be a decision made on who the applicants are. And I would welcome at least allowing non-residents to apply, declaring my bias towards having residents. allowing them to apply doesn't require that we actually select them and we can admit to having our own bias about We think should be on the committee so I guess gently in favor of the idea of having. non-residents allowed to apply. I'm not sure. but not necessarily requiring that one of the five seats be a non-resident or whatnot. |
| 01:36:11.25 | Jill Hoffman | So, okay. That's interesting. I hadn't thought of that approach, Councilmember Sobieski. So, |
| 01:36:22.20 | Jill Hoffman | So we wouldn't want to end up with a committee of all non-residents. So we would have to send out wait or somehow you know, decide what, how many that would be and whether or not Bye. |
| 01:36:40.41 | Ian Sobieski | Later. |
| 01:36:41.35 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:36:41.42 | Ian Sobieski | It seems like we would decide at the time. And I mean, no, we wouldn't want presumably all non-risons. And again, I admit my bias towards having |
| 01:36:42.01 | Jill Hoffman | It seems like it's a good thing. I'm going to go. |
| 01:36:51.34 | Ian Sobieski | I believe among just as on our council, I think within the people that live here, people with diverse views on a variety of housing issues. And you can probably put together a set of credible diversity among that set of just residents. But that all said, there could be some fantastic non-residents that apply that are fair-minded I would just start. consider that Thank you. |
| 01:37:20.18 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:37:20.22 | Ian Sobieski | suggested that we could consider them and admit to our |
| 01:37:20.25 | Ian Sobieski | you |
| 01:37:23.37 | Ian Sobieski | Um, individual criteria on who we select. in the outcome of the interview process. to a point. that we don't need to necessarily designate seats. for resident, non-resident, and for for unhoused and housed or so on and so forth. |
| 01:37:41.04 | Jill Hoffman | So, Okay, council member sorry vice mayor has her hand up. |
| 01:37:45.41 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, so I have maybe a compromise idea So the county is already doing their housing element and they are covering the areas unincorporated Marin County 94965, which would include, of course, Marin City. What if we did a joint outreach with the county process? and made sure and it was kind of gave policy direction to be in line and coordinated with the county process, so that we were able to take in feedback and in real time. Um, I think one of the concerns we had at the subcommittee level and to your point, Councilor Sobieski is that you're never going to cover every, Every group, right? which is why I actually, think that the workshops and the public process are more important than anything else in terms of making sure we get a diversity of voices at the table. Because even if we were to appoint somebody who fit a specific I'm not sure if we're going to you know, criteria you know, that's not to say that that individual is going to, as you laid out, going to proceed with an open mind, right? to, have a committee of residents who one of our criteria is, you know, as open minded as possible, but really focus on this outreach and do it in coordination with the county who is already planning their housing element for areas around Marin City so that we don't have duplication of efforts, but we also are able to strategize around joint solutions. |
| 01:39:14.73 | Jill Hoffman | You know, I, I like that. I mean, and that's kind of what kind of what I was getting at with With... with the non with the non-voting, non-resident, Non-voting resident C. Right. So you have whatever it is you have, you have six, if we do seven or nine. but then you have a non-resident seat that you vote on that separately, right? So at least it At least you have that. At least you have that voice. and you're not designating We have to have. a voting member on the committee that's non-resident Right? But at least you have that voice. Um, that you know and you vote on that separately. And then that person is sort of perceived to be the liaison with the county effort, Because we, You know, because we wouldn't, I mean, we're not, unless, Unless the Sausalito resident is invited to be on that committee, right? Um, as a voting member on that whatever board or effort that Marin City and the county's doing. with regard to what's going to happen right outside Sausalito. I see what you're saying that we do need, I think, the voice and coordination of what's going on around the outside of Saucelago. The other thing is that we wouldn't you know, we would still be compliant with our municipal code. And that's one thing that I'm a little bit concerned about, not overly concerned about, but a little bit. So the issue is how do we get How do we get input in the voice? of certain demographics, I suppose, on our housing, our housing element committee. Um, And then the other one is you know, you know. Anyway, how do we manage that, right? to meet that end. So. Okay. |
| 01:41:21.76 | Jill Hoffman | Can I also? Yeah, so the other thing we need to talk about, I guess, is numbers. |
| 01:41:22.15 | Ian Sobieski | So, Thank you. |
| 01:41:25.56 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. Exactly. Yeah, I was going to bring that up. So I mean, you know, We saw the general plan update committee The larger numbers are a little bit more difficult, I think, to drive towards solutions. At least that may have been one conclusion that some outsider would take that didn't spend hours and hours So I don't know, what do you guys recommend? |
| 01:41:50.99 | Cleveland Knowles | The committee had tried to keep it smaller than the general plan advisory committee, understanding that that was a very, difficult process for everyone on that committee to really feel heard and to have groupful discussions and But I think we've seen with the EDAC that a larger, that that's a little bit bigger. So our recommendation was seven to nine. I think we could keep that open and see how the application process goes. I don't necessarily feel the need to decide that it's going to be seven or nine tonight. If other people do, I would I don't really have a strong recommendation either way, recognizing that we're also recommending that four of those slots are taken up by members of this council and the planning commission. So, you know, we might wanna, just leave it open and see what kind of applications that we get. I would just going back to the resident non-resident I feel very, very uncomfortable closing the process at this point in time. um, to non-residents and that I appreciate council member Sobieski's suggestion to keep the application process open and our minds open about the value of having someone that's not a current resident, but possibly a future resident. um at the table. um, So I would like to see that. you know, the open. Since we have such a small committee, I would be open to limiting the number. You know, we've seen non-residents participate very impactfully on EDAC. um, So I think, and that hasn't, I feel like that process, we waived the municipal code for that process as well. I think that's been very helpful. I also, I would just flag too for you last year when we did allow the 94965 applications, I did hear some criticism that they were not voting members. |
| 01:43:47.40 | Ian Sobieski | I love you. |
| 01:43:59.41 | Cleveland Knowles | and was actually at some point going to suggest that we change that, but not part of this discussion, but we did get some criticism about that just so everyone knows. |
| 01:44:10.13 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:44:10.60 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 01:44:10.73 | Jill Hoffman | All right. Okay, so, um... So, Council Member Sobiesi, I think your proposal is that It's. that we consider applications from outside 94965. I'm going to I would you would you I think. what I would, what I'm hearing from council member Cleveland Knowles is that we limit that to One seat. but, keeping in mind, it's not that we have to put one non 94965 on there. It's, to council member sobieski's point it's however the votes fall when we're voting on the number. And if non-94965 is up in the top, then Then they have the votes, and if they don't, |
| 01:45:04.13 | Ian Sobieski | No. That's my view. I think it means something just to invite the application. That's a start of the dialogue. |
| 01:45:04.16 | Jill Hoffman | not. |
| 01:45:11.87 | Ian Sobieski | as Councilmember Kuglin always mentioned it seems, It's open and inviting and like I said, I have a bias towards residents. but then again, I don't know who's going to apply. You know, we just don't know who's going through a block and there could be a really obvious for me, I'm not speaking for me personally, It's a no brainer. who is not a resident, but I just don't know until people apply. active and voting. is a meaningful act. |
| 01:45:48.88 | Jill Hoffman | Okay? Thank you. |
| 01:45:49.99 | Melissa Blaustein | Any other discussion on that? just want to echo Councilmember Cleveland's comments about the criticisms of the lack of vote for 94965 members and liaisons. I have heard some commentary on that from community members and also that it's discouraged folks from applying and I would hate to see people feel like their voices weren't being heard or weren't as significant given what the efforts are around having someone from the 94965 be on these boards and commissions and I know |
| 01:46:16.11 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:46:18.27 | Melissa Blaustein | I respectfully see why it makes sense. This is a very difficult issue. It's different than EDAC. It's different than gpac in terms of what the zoning implications will mean for residents and i Absolutely acknowledge that, but at the same time, it's going to require a really robust conversation with a large group of stakeholders, and so we should at least open up the possibility of having many voices and decide based on applications. and see who ends up applying for the committee. |
| 01:46:49.54 | Cleveland Knowles | And just to clarify, I don't think I said limiting it to one. I said limiting the number. But if that's the proposal, I mean, I just said I recognize it's a small number of people and I'd be open to limiting it. |
| 01:47:01.71 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. Thank you for that clarification. Okay, so. We have a draft resolution. Do we any or any other? Any other discussion? I see there's hands up in the waiting room, but unfortunately we've already passed public comment on this. So my apologies to those people with their hands up, but we're in the discussion phase right now. And so, I section four is where we're talking about housing element advisory committees members serve in accordance with municipal code. Chapter 2.54. And so, I'm sorry, 2.58. Um, How do we amend that? Um, I would suggest amending that to say, then taking in council member Sobieski's comments and Cleveland Knowles and council member Cleveland Knowles and council member Blaustein. that perhaps I mean, there's no motion on the table, but I would say that we perhaps would say after 2.58 comma with the addition of |
| 01:48:19.59 | Jill Hoffman | application consideration of applications from non-94965 and Thank you. |
| 01:48:27.30 | Janelle Kellman | Sorry, Mayor Hoffman, I thought we were saying that we would extend it to non-sociated residents, however, within 94965. |
| 01:48:34.86 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. |
| 01:48:35.70 | Janelle Kellman | That's what I'm saying. |
| 01:48:35.96 | Jill Hoffman | consistent, I think, with EDAC. Do we want to put in section 4 you know, not to exceed one seat of non Sausalito residence. |
| 01:48:48.28 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:48:51.48 | Janelle Kellman | Well, I mean, maybe the lone vote, but who does not want to? Um, to extend beyond saw city residents. So if people are willing to do the one seat, that might be a nice compromise, but I'm, open to hearing thoughts. |
| 01:49:12.09 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:49:12.10 | Melissa Blaustein | Any thoughts? I would support a compromise. I always try to do that. |
| 01:49:16.78 | Cleveland Knowles | Yeah, I support that. It sounded like Councilmember Boston you were committed to 94965 as opposed to or someone who works. in Sausalito. |
| 01:49:30.85 | Melissa Blaustein | I would be open to someone who works, but I feel like it's really critical that we have someone from Marin City if possible. |
| 01:49:39.29 | Cleveland Knowles | Okay, well, that's fine. |
| 01:49:41.45 | Ian Sobieski | I mean, not to belabor it, council member Blaston, but only we don't know who's going to apply. |
| 01:49:42.07 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. |
| 01:49:48.01 | Ian Sobieski | Great. |
| 01:49:48.10 | Ian Sobieski | So if there are not sufficient applications from there, then we wouldn't I'm only saying that at this point, we might want to have the largest funnel because we're looking for the best people and we can decide on the criteria that we choose among those applicants. when we choose the applicants. |
| 01:50:08.10 | Janelle Kellman | So 94965, which is then consistent with the other comparisons that were utilized, which was EDAC. Um, And then we're just consistent with what we've done in the past. |
| 01:50:18.49 | Cleveland Knowles | No, so EDEC was actually not 94965. They have a 94965. non-voting member possibility, the actual composition of EDAC were was open to people who do business. in Sausalito but who are not |
| 01:50:36.19 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, got it. Thank you for the clarification. |
| 01:50:38.30 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 01:50:38.34 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:50:38.35 | Cleveland Knowles | So this would be sort of |
| 01:50:39.84 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:50:40.21 | Cleveland Knowles | It could be a football. |
| 01:50:40.23 | Ian Sobieski | It could be a couple of times. I think the language was a, |
| 01:50:42.32 | Cleveland Knowles | Yeah. |
| 01:50:42.34 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:50:42.37 | Cleveland Knowles | Okay. |
| 01:50:43.84 | Ian Sobieski | as many as one person who is not a Sausalito resident if they live in 94965 or they are employees. Thank you. sauce leader. something like that. Exactly. |
| 01:50:57.57 | Cleveland Knowles | That would be great. And it's only, again, it's only the possibility it would be our final voting selection that would determine whether or not |
| 01:51:02.67 | Ian Sobieski | That's right. |
| 01:51:06.38 | Cleveland Knowles | that person is selected. |
| 01:51:07.88 | Ian Sobieski | Correct. It's not a seat for that person rather. as their applicants may apply in as many as one may be awarded may be awarded to such a person. |
| 01:51:21.10 | Cleveland Knowles | Okay. I'll second it. |
| 01:51:26.11 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:51:26.12 | Jill Hoffman | out of place. |
| 01:51:26.16 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:51:26.18 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 01:51:26.26 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:51:26.82 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:51:26.89 | Ian Sobieski | I'm going to go. |
| 01:51:26.97 | Jill Hoffman | Who made that motion? Was that me? |
| 01:51:27.09 | Ian Sobieski | They're coming. |
| 01:51:27.76 | Cleveland Knowles | THE END OF |
| 01:51:27.81 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:51:27.97 | Cleveland Knowles | made this. |
| 01:51:28.22 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:51:30.23 | Jill Hoffman | That made it motion. I don't know. Okay. I'll, I'll accept that. Um, Okay, so we have a motion and we have a second. Do we want to, sorry, Just a minute. If I could have just a second. I was trying to figure out where we might put. a preference for 100% affordable housing projects. in here, understanding that there are many hoops that have to be Um, Um, that many hoops have to be jumped through. Hold on. I'm sorry, I have to go off camera for just a second. |
| 01:52:10.00 | Ian Sobieski | There's a lot. |
| 01:52:10.00 | Jill Hoffman | There's a locked door. Apparently there's a locked door in my house that needs to be unlocked. So hang on just a second. |
| 01:52:14.15 | Ian Sobieski | All right, Vice Mayor, this is your chance. |
| 01:52:16.70 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:52:16.77 | Jill Hoffman | I'm not sure. |
| 01:52:17.04 | Janelle Kellman | Wow. |
| 01:52:18.39 | Ian Sobieski | What should I do? You did it wisely. |
| 01:52:21.53 | Janelle Kellman | Did somebody make a motion? But it would be good to find a section of here to include that language that the mayor just mentioned. I think it's probably |
| 01:52:31.38 | Cleveland Knowles | I think we should have staff. There's a lot of red open sections in here. |
| 01:52:31.40 | Janelle Kellman | How do you think |
| 01:52:36.76 | Cleveland Knowles | I mean, we agreed that like the seven to nine is on page one, section one. We're gonna just leave it seven to nine. Right. And then on page two, We're going to leave at seven to nine, section two. And then it says note if non-city residents modify this section |
| 01:52:57.64 | Cleveland Knowles | I guess maybe we should just ask staff if they have enough information to |
| 01:53:04.07 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, that's a good idea. |
| 01:53:05.98 | Cleveland Knowles | it's been a long time. Lily? |
| 01:53:07.32 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:53:07.93 | Lily Whalen | but if it's... |
| 01:53:07.97 | Heidi Scoble | I don't know. one. |
| 01:53:09.60 | Lily Whalen | So what I have right now for section four, and I can carry over this language into section two is The Housing Element Advisory Committee members served in accordance with municipal code 2.58 with the exception of up to one seat, which may be a non-resident who is employed in Sausalito or lives in the zip code 94965. And then I'll carry over some of that same language into section two where it references three to five city residents. I'll carry over that same parallel language about one of the seats maybe for a non-city resident who's employed in Sausalito or lives in 965 and then I'll change, I'm changing the, um, seven. slash nine to seven to nine. And that gives the council flexibility and how large you would let this committee to be. |
| 01:54:00.23 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, thank you. Mayor Hoffman, while you were gone, I wanted to make a suggestion that the language around affordable housing may include it in section one. as a general policy statement with the intentions of the of the committee, so something like it's the intention of this committee to THE END OF THE END OF THE identify if possible pathways to 100% affordable housing. And that's just conditional language. It doesn't bind us to anything. |
| 01:54:25.62 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, that'd be great. I mean, that's acceptable to me. So, everybody else okay with that? That would be great. |
| 01:54:32.65 | Ian Sobieski | Great. |
| 01:54:34.33 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, all right, very good. Director Wayland, do you have what you need from us on this matter? I do. Thank you. |
| 01:54:43.02 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:54:43.04 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 01:54:43.28 | Janelle Kellman | you |
| 01:54:43.33 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thanks very much. Okay. Thanks everybody for all of your hard work and what I know will be hard work going forward. Yes. |
| 01:54:46.73 | Janelle Kellman | when I get to the end of the day. Yes, Vice Mayor. One request. And I think maybe Council Member Sobieski, you brought this up last time. Could there be a practice where we either get a readout on the edited language on a resolution or it comes back to us so we can review the edited language? I know staff has enough direction, |
| 01:54:48.59 | Jill Hoffman | Vice Mayor. |
| 01:55:03.19 | Janelle Kellman | it would just be good for us see it in its final format at some point. |
| 01:55:07.91 | Cleveland Knowles | I think it's in the minutes. They're linked, hyperlinked. I think. Maybe the clerk could confirm. They used to be hyperlinked. |
| 01:55:18.26 | Heidi Scoble | Council members, once the edits are made, usually the staff working on the resolution would provide the city clerk with those edits and then... We upload those those motions to the minutes, but we actually don't post the resolutions. And that is a future program that we are going to be working on to include them on our website. but, That's currently what we have. My recommendation would be maybe the housing element committee sub or the subcommittee. could work with the community development director to look at the final version before it gets signed by the mayor. |
| 01:55:58.25 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, I agree with that. I think that's a good process. And we still need to take a vote, apparently. There's a motion on the table, a motion with seconded language we've all talked about and discussed. So let's call the vote. |
| 01:56:12.68 | Heidi Scoble | Councilmember Sobieski. Absolutely. Council Member Blaustein. Council member Cleveland Knowles. |
| 01:56:18.87 | Janelle Kellman | Yes. |
| 01:56:19.68 | Heidi Scoble | Vice Mayor Kelman. |
| 01:56:21.44 | Janelle Kellman | Yes, in the interest of compromising. |
| 01:56:24.53 | Heidi Scoble | Mayor Hoffman. |
| 01:56:25.67 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:56:25.69 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 01:56:25.94 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:56:25.98 | Jill Hoffman | And thanks to everybody for your work on this. |
| 01:56:32.37 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, moving on. Moving on, our next item on our agenda is Um, is 7B, and that is a presentation and part of an Update. continuing update. from our, uh, our, Charley Francis, our interim city assistant city manager and administrative services director. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:57:01.11 | Charlie Francis | Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council Members. This is the budget status review number one of the city council. It's based on the calendar that was adopted at the last city council meeting. So we're on step number four now, we're at budget review number one. And as I wrote in our staff report for this night, we just had our city council budget workshop on Saturday, April 24th. Yes, yesterday we initiated the department head preparation on the budget preparation software. |
| 01:57:28.79 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:57:33.83 | Charlie Francis | And so tonight on the review, I was just going to cover quickly what we covered Saturday. On Saturday, we had an agenda that looked at four specific policy issues, And the format of the presentation was there was an introduction to each one of these issues very short presentation and then a council discussion and finally a consensus direction to staff. So I'm gonna quickly go through that we examined first on scenarios, continued COVID staffing and level of service, a gradual return to pre-COVID staffing and level of service and a full return to pre-COVID and level of service. Those were the proposed scenarios we presented. And then I kind of did a brief discussion of of the Labor costing software that actually costs out what those three scenarios would look like the budget preparation software where the department heads will be actually entering data for those three scenarios for their operating debt service and capital expenses. We will be... very transparent through the budget process and, uh, have our, TRANSPARENCY PORTAL. having two kind of views, one that looks at all of the three scenarios, and then another one that shows how the budget is going through the budget milestone process. Thank you. We talked also about a continuous budgeting during the year. In other words, the ability to develop scenarios and implementation plans for each scenario. We would measure risks instead of contingency and reserve envelopes and then when we go into budget execution, we're going to be measuring and monitoring the economy, monitoring budget execution. There'll be frequent reporting and communication. flexible and agile implementation of these scenarios and plans that we developed and go through the year with a series of appropriations. So when we concluded and the council gave direction to staff Um, You know, there was Council said that they want the ability to model partial returns to pre-COVID level of service. And what we mean by that is maybe one department will come to full level of service, another one would gradually return and maybe a third department wouldn't return at all. And the answer was, yes, we do have the ability and the software to model those and we will be modeling those as directed through the Council review process. Council wanted to make sure that it was a collaborative process where staff, finance, and city manager and city council are collaborating throughout the whole process. That's why you set the budget calendar up the way you did. Uh. And then when we implement the budget, you know, council was very clear that they wanted a continual monthly monitoring and reporting to the city council, that they wanted a reconciliation policy. of continually reconciling our accounts so that we're reporting accurate budget to actual information And then, And they want the ability to manage this tension that kind of exists between flexibility and long term planning and we'll be building that into the process as well. After we finished the discussion about policy issues and scenarios, then we went into a discussion on the risk-based analysis of reserves that we would primarily be, you know, look at our reserves through the lens of risk rather than through the lens of GASB. And those risks we identified were, primary and secondary, our stability of our revenues, of the likelihood of infrastructure failure and you know what kind of exposure do we have to extreme events and you know our public safety concerns, you know, like mudslides, earthquakes, etc. And then we have our secondary risk factors of lawsuits and litigations pensions open and debt. I walked the council through the methodology that Staff will be using and measuring those risks and assigning values to them and augmentation factors. And then finally, the The report will have a list of targets. In other words, we'll target reserves through the lens of risk. And then we'll compare those targets against our actual reserves that are measured through the lens of GASB. what's designated assigned and unassigned. And when we compare these two, we'll then do a surplus and gap analysis of whether do we have too much reserves or do we have too little reserves. And then whatever the result of that is, there'll be a recommended action plan. up. So as we came through and finished that discussion, council then went into a discussion of the use of debt policy for reserves. We had some discussion of credit ratings and how we structure certificates of participation in pension obligation bonds, what requires voter approval. I did mention that I would come back tonight and say that pension obligation bonds and COPs do not require voter approval. And then there's a sensitivity analysis of CAAT and the elastic revenues. Very important to council directed staff to be able to pay attention to that. Next, we went into a discussion of the use of the American Rescue Plan funds. We're receiving about $1.3 million. We'll be getting that in two tranches, one tranche in June of this year and earlier than June of the following year. We have until December 31st of 2024 to use that money. We can use it to respond to the COVID-19 emergency and address its economic effects. We're waiting for treasury guidance on what that definition actually is. can be used to pay essential employees or grants. provide government services affected by revenue reduction resulting from COVID-19, or you can make investments in water, sewer, and broadband infrastructure. What you can't do is use it for pension or tax cuts. However, it can be transferred to private non-profit groups and public benefit corporations. There will be periodic reporting, so we'll be setting up our accounting system to handle that. And then of course, we'll be paying very close attention to Treasury regulations, because if there's any failure to comply, then federal government can recoup that money. But... Just briefly touched on that. There's more grants that are going to be available and staff will be monitoring these very actively, the America jobs interest plan that was presented by President Biden is being you know, debated, In Congress right now, where the Republicans came back with a $568 billion infrastructure proposal, in either case, there may be some availability to grants for our infrastructure, and we'll be monitoring that. So in conclusion, Um, we, you know, we, We talked about about putting the American Rescue Plan in two buckets, although we didn't designate a dollar amount but Council wants staff to present strategies to, you know, how do we use funds to stabilize our current levels of service? And then how do we use it strategically, you know, to provide help to businesses and people, how to use it to encourage inclusivity and to invest in the future prosperity of our local economy or to complement existing programs that we have going. So in the discussion that ensued, you know, council wanted to know you know, whether or not there were, If we wanted to go immediately back to our pre-post, our pre- pre-COVID staffing level, was it enough of the ARPA, was it enough to cover that, enough of the American Rescue Plan? And the answer was yes, the first tranche would probably cover going back to the pre-COVID staffing level. We are waiting for guidance from the U.S. Treasury before we make any final decisions, but it's good to begin these decisions now and to come to the conclusion that we want to both use this money to stabilize operations and to strategize using it over a longer term period. And then finally, we address some other resource generation policies that staff will be presenting to the city council through the year. The first one was addressing our liabilities and costs. You know, at an earlier city council meeting, The City Council asked staff to come back with analysis of different scenarios of how to address our pension liabilities. You know, I've kind of identified that there's five areas that we can explore. The first one, continue with the same funding policy, which is what the current direction to staff is in preparing the budget. We could accelerate. And what I mean by that is $250,000 a year going into our Section 115 program, and that equals about 3% of payor will. we could accelerate that to a higher percentage of payroll. And by doing so, we would accelerate the, uh, the term when we, the amount of years until we pay off our UAAL Or we could look at how to pay off the unfunded liability today. One would be through the use of pension obligation bonds, which is like trading soft debt for hard debt. What you're doing is issuing low interest debt and paying off high interest debt. It's what we call an arbitrage play. But when you do that, you lose control of the arbitrage because you're giving it to an investment authority who sets their own investment policy. They set an investment policy for a risk threshold of achieving the 7% rate of return. City Council maybe want to be more concerned. and say, well, we want to control that arbitrage and only target a 6% rate of return, which we might have a better success of reaching than if we targeted the 7%. In that case, we could issue a pension obligation and leaseback arbitrage bond that we invest all the proceeds into our section 115 trust. And then the third, is a combination, which I explained of using it both to fund CalPERS 95% UAL and to anticipate the likelihood that CalPERS will Uh, decrease the discount rate. So let me just really quickly walk through why that's important. Today, If we issued a pension obligation bond and we paid off our unfunded liability, in the next six months, CAILFERS could lower the discount rate and the unfunded liability returns. It's not like you pay off your car loan and it goes away. It fluctuates. And so we can anticipate that they're going to do that and actually issue low interest cost debt now, anticipating that high interest rate that's going to occur in the future. We walked through some numbers that show that that could save the city general fund anywhere from $800,000 to $1.1 million annually, any one of those last three scenarios. So then we explored a kind of thought leadership way of eliminating our OPEB liability and reducing our annual cost by 150,000. And that's by exploring the possibility placing an income producing asset in kind contribution into a section 115 trust. And lastly, we Briefly talked about some other department service delivery options that we'll explore during the budget preparation process, outsourcing financial management, sewer consolidation, police consolidation, and shared services arrangements. At the end of all of those, you know, city council kind of directed staff that The message that I heard the clearest was we need to balance our thought leadership and innovation with prudence. In other words, we want to go slow through these processes, thoroughly examine each one of these strategies, and then implement what makes sense and be careful about the whole thing. So, In conclusion then, Our final comments were... |
| 02:10:09.85 | Ian Sobieski | Uh-huh. |
| 02:10:10.81 | Charlie Francis | Um, look at the measure O sunset as we're examining the, uh, the, budget. want to build back better, innovate with caution. one of the best in people and same time preserve and transfer institutional knowledge through a succession planning program. want to help our local businesses and residents. And there was an overall consensus by the city council to move forward as we presented in the budget workshop. And then the community weighed in, there was more than several community comments, all very positive, looking to say, arbitrage is risky, go slowly. The community concerns and comments went around determined, you know, make sure we determine what the right level of service is for our community, you know, and remember to invest in maintenance of our infrastructure. So in conclusion, it was a very, very long, and, but very, fruitful discussion that will guide the budget preparation process for staff in the next two weeks. So that concludes my presentation and turn it back to City Council for questions. |
| 02:11:23.96 | Jill Hoffman | Thanks. um, |
| 02:11:28.33 | Charlie Francis | Thank you. |
| 02:11:28.35 | Jill Hoffman | I'm going to ask you to ask the city manager for that recap of our four and a half hour meeting. That was great. One of the questions I did have was I |
| 02:11:28.44 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:11:42.09 | Jill Hoffman | I thought you were gonna I believe we're gonna post that study session? Are we, where are we hanging that on our website? |
| 02:11:49.90 | Charlie Francis | Yeah, immediately after our meeting on Saturday, I put it up on the of Granicus Um, So it should be. |
| 02:11:58.83 | Jill Hoffman | OK. Thank you. |
| 02:11:59.72 | Charlie Francis | Assessment to them. |
| 02:12:00.78 | Jill Hoffman | Oh, great. Okay. So it's posted there. And then you also said during the, um, during our workshop that you had also done kind of a little workshop on OpenGov, right? |
| 02:12:12.87 | Charlie Francis | Oh, well, so, There are management analyst actually did a tutorial and we posted it in the currents and it's available for everyone to look at. If they go to the OpenGov site, actually I can show that real quick. There's she did a great job of of leadership. of actually |
| 02:12:34.84 | Ian Sobieski | So... So, |
| 02:12:37.27 | Charlie Francis | putting in the there Click here to watch a YouTube tutorial on how to use it. |
| 02:12:42.74 | Jill Hoffman | OK, great. Okay, great, thank you. Okay, thanks. Does anybody, any council members have any comments or, sorry, questions for Charlie on this presentation? I'm not seeing any hands or waving or any other history on that. |
| 02:13:02.45 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. enjoy it on Saturday. So we're. |
| 02:13:06.46 | Jill Hoffman | to the next episode. It was, it was actually fascinating. Thank you. Okay, then I'm going to open it up for public comments. On this? |
| 02:13:16.79 | Heidi Scoble | It looks like we have one hand that is raised at the moment. It's John DeRay. John, you have been unmuted. |
| 02:13:25.38 | Unknown | Hello, thank you. Forgive me for making a similar comment to what I made on Saturday. I'm a little worried about the use of the term arbitrage. Arbitrage has a specific meaning. a risk free return, and this is not what we're talking about here. So I think we need to really carefully look at this. Now I haven't seen the details of this particular strategy, but It sounds to me a lot like sort of a margin account play like we used to do in the dot com days, in the first dot com days. where you'd go to Schwab borrow on margin at whatever 8% because you think you could make 15% in the stock market. And, you know, it's all good until it isn't. So using leverage is dangerous. And, um, I think just more clarity to describe the strategy for the community would be very helpful. So thank you so much. |
| 02:14:31.16 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. I don't see any other hands. Madam Clerk? |
| 02:14:37.65 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, you are correct. There are no hands that are raised. |
| 02:14:40.35 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:14:40.39 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 02:14:41.06 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. Um, then I'm closing public comment and I'm bringing it back up to the city council for discussion. Um, one. um, Charlie, did you have a slide in your presentation, if you did I missed it, about what our schedule's going to be going forward? |
| 02:15:01.99 | Charlie Francis | it. |
| 02:15:04.77 | Jill Hoffman | It's okay if you did. I was just, |
| 02:15:13.72 | Jill Hoffman | So that's the, these are the key dates. So for people that are on the call that are interested in how we're gonna move through our our budget, you know, obviously almost every city council meeting we're going to have from now through June is going to have an item on it for budget. So, and then city and then finance committee meetings, in between. So Um, At some point we'll have we'll have a tighter schedule for what our what our finance committee meetings are going to be and people, who might want to join those particular meetings. We'll have that calendar up, but we don't quite have that up yet. Okay. With regard to discussion, I don't have, that was the only thing I wanted to point out to people that are on the call. Do we have any other comments from City Council members on this item. |
| 02:16:08.07 | Janelle Kellman | I have a question about the American Recovery Act. What's that? Go ahead. The American Recovery Act. So, Trez, just to confirm, as I've gotten a lot of questions since Saturday about allocation of those funds, you expect to get direction from the Treasury in the next week or so as to how they can be spent. Is that right? |
| 02:16:26.04 | Charlie Francis | Yeah, we expect to get Treasury direction by the middle of May. |
| 02:16:31.27 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. All right. Any other... Thank you. discussion points for Charlie? |
| 02:16:39.53 | Sandra Bushmaker | I guess. |
| 02:16:40.01 | Cleveland Knowles | I just wanted to. |
| 02:16:40.05 | Ian Sobieski | Mr. Carmen. |
| 02:16:40.94 | Sandra Bushmaker | Thank you. |
| 02:16:41.18 | Cleveland Knowles | Oh, go ahead Ian. |
| 02:16:41.87 | Ian Sobieski | I was just going to say something nice. Just wanted to thank Charlie and the finance committee for the great work. It's fantastic to. just have a feeling that things are being put together as they are. |
| 02:16:56.17 | Cleveland Knowles | Okay, good. I will second that. So the other comment I was going to have is just, you know, I know that some members of the public and some members of our boards and commissions have started to kind of pay attention to the budget process and I would just like to encourage as much outreach I know we're gonna have really good department head discussions and priority setting and then go through our city manager, I think You know, there's always a lot of confusion about through the year. from boards and commissions about, hey, we just had this great idea and we want the city to move forward with it. And so this, I just want to kind of point out that this is the time to really kind of engage and to work with staff and the council to get priorities in our budget, because if it's not in our budget and our implementation programs, then it's really not something that staff and the city are gonna be able to put a lot of resources in throughout the year. And so that it's just such a, it's such a good time to get our priorities reflected in our budget. so that we can have the resources to do all of those great things successfully. |
| 02:18:14.47 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. Yeah, I completely agree on that too. So thank you for pointing that out, Councilmember Kudin-Nolls. Go ahead, Vice Mayor. |
| 02:18:18.75 | Janelle Kellman | Go ahead. Sorry, I just had a clarification question for Charlie. So Charlie, we are going to get, there are proper tax revenue next month, right? Taxes were due this month. And then how will that be captured in a way that is most meaningful for us? Is that gonna be in the treasurer's report and part of that monthly agile or nimble reporting we talked about? |
| 02:18:42.12 | Charlie Francis | Thank you. Yeah, when we get it, I can send a memo out to the council like I did today and I can then extrapolate what we'll get for the remainder of the year. If that's something important for the council, I can certainly do that. It'll also be reflected on the OpenGov site. As I mentioned earlier, we are updating the revenues and expenses and the balance sheet on a weekly basis. So you'll be able to see it in there as well. |
| 02:19:10.29 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, because it's our largest source of revenue percentage wise so I think it would be good to keep a close eye on how our property taxes are going. Then the other thing you've mentioned this a couple of times but I want to just keep flagging it for us is the idea of reserves. Right so our goal is to have cash reserves allow the city to have the same level of service during a downtown or downturn. And you talked about doing a sensitivity analysis. You previously did circulate to the council our reserve policy. I'm wondering if we can bring that back around for review sometime during the budget session, once we have a better understanding of what cash is in the bank. So I just wanna flag that as a request, if we could do that. |
| 02:19:45.13 | Charlie Francis | Sure, definitely will. |
| 02:19:46.81 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. Okay. And then just a quick question on OpenGov. Thank you for the the videos and the ease of use is actually quite a powerful tool. Um, If some of a member of the public or a member of the council Um, needs more information around that, what's the best way to get that? Like, for example, where could I find the chart of accounts that helped me figure out, you know, allocation of funds? figure some of that out. Should we contact you? I don't want to barrage you? What's the best way to get some of that key information so we can make the most use of this open gov platform. |
| 02:20:20.01 | Charlie Francis | Well, Um, Yeah. I can show up real quick. The chart of accounts is built into the open gov platform. Let me get down to here. So. |
| 02:20:35.30 | Chris Zapata | Madam Vice Mayor, while he's pulling that up today for the first time, Since almost since my arrival I needed a . picking five or six cities and asking them, how much did you spend on this last year? Just as a very high level benchmark. And it felt really good to be able for the first time here to be able to ask Charlie, gee, is there a way we can come up with that rough number today? And within an hour, he came back and showed me what he's going to show you here tonight, which is, Of course. Do you know how to read the charts? to me. And, you know, I'm exaggerating his comment, but it was felt so good to have a chart that I could then share with other cities to say, of course, we know what our number is. So. Um, I think we're in a better position now and I'm waiting for his answer. Are you ready, Charlie? . |
| 02:21:30.65 | Charlie Francis | Yeah, so when I hear chart of accounts, I hear the accounting string is broken up into three segments. The first three digits of the segment is the fund. So in this case, fund 101 means general, 100 means general fund, 114 means Tideman fund, 130 is our disaster assistance fund. The second three digits in the chart of accounts are the department numbers. So department 200 is police. seven digits are the object number so if we wanted to Just say, listen, I want to look at the general fund police department, salary, overtime account. Now we've just narrowed down those expenses. We'll change this to expense here. And now we're seeing just the expenses for the police department overtime account. So you get the full chart of accounts by expanding the filter by over here. |
| 02:22:34.27 | Janelle Kellman | Great. Thank you. |
| 02:22:34.83 | Charlie Francis | And I'm always available for a more detailed tutorial as well. |
| 02:22:34.90 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 02:22:41.09 | Janelle Kellman | As you can see, I share Marsha's excitement around this sort of instant gratification and organization. It's excellent. Thank you, Charlie. |
| 02:22:48.72 | Chris Zapata | The transparency for the council, for the staff, other members of other departments and the public. |
| 02:22:55.82 | Charlie Francis | It is. This transparency portal is all public facing. Anyone can access it. |
| 02:22:57.26 | Chris Zapata | This is |
| 02:22:58.07 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:23:03.72 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, so any other questions? discussion or comments from the city council before we close this item other than to say what a great job uh Good. department's doing Charlie's doing and thank you so much for all your hard work. Excellent. |
| 02:23:18.11 | Chris Zapata | Excellent. |
| 02:23:18.60 | Charlie Francis | Thank you. |
| 02:23:19.02 | Chris Zapata | Thank you for getting us where we need to be. |
| 02:23:19.04 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:23:19.06 | Charlie Francis | Thank you. Thank you and thank you for all the hard work you're about to embark upon. We have the next two months of decisions to make. |
| 02:23:30.18 | Jill Hoffman | Good, it's gonna be very exciting. Okay, so moving on, then I'm closing this item and we're moving on to our next. item on the agenda. Um, which is item number eight city manager reports, city council appointments and other council business. Um, Item 8A is public comment. So, We take public comment at the beginning of this agenda item for all of the all of the items under this. So we're gonna take public comment now for city manager information. for appointments to boards, commissions, and committees. The future agenda items are the reports of significance. So at this time I'm opening public comment. for those items. |
| 02:24:13.41 | Jill Hoffman | Madam Mayor, there are no hands raised at this time. Thank you very much. And so then I will close public comments and we will move on to item 8B, city manager information for the council. So that goes to our manager, Marsha Raines. |
| 02:24:27.20 | Chris Zapata | MARK. Thank you, Madam Mayor. I'd like to give the Council and the community an update on the recruitment process for city manager. You will recall that as 2019 closed the Council to then Council retain an executive recruiter. one of the first actions in 2020 of the current Council was to establish a council working group and begin to define the recruiting process that effort, The working group working along with the executive recruiter was very successful in bringing us 50 highly qualified candidates. 50. The council has then worked to interview those whittled down to a smaller group and worked to interview the smaller group and is continuing to narrow the candidates at this point. They're hoping to select a new city manager soon and make an appointment, I would hope, within the next 30 days. So we've got A large group that we were able to attract to meet the current needs of the city of Sausalito, as defined by the working group and the community and the executive recruiting team. And we have. A very few select highly qualified candidates that are very exciting for the city and our future. And we're at the point of, as I said, making an appointment. The council will make an appointment here in, I would say, the next 30 days and make an announcement. I'd be happy to take questions if you have them. |
| 02:26:04.23 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. I do not have any questions. Do any other council members have questions? Okay, thank you. Then moving on to our next item on the agenda, which is appointments to boards, commissions and committees. We do not have any appointments today to boards, commissions and committees. So we will move on then to future agenda items, I am going to reference a future agenda item which is I would like to add referenced and that's the tunnel project. all our children united. As she said, we will discuss this in agenda setting and I think that's a consent item. but, We'll have to look at our consent calendar and see how we're going to address that in an agenda setting. I'm not sure. Thank you. Anyway. So yes, Vice Mayor Kilman. Thank you. |
| 02:26:57.79 | Janelle Kellman | Yes, I would like to... to my fellow council members. that we put on the agenda, something around re-instituting the undergrounding committee Some of you may know we've had some requests around undergrounding and looking at our service area and various risks. across town. um so i just there's i won't get into all the details around it but i want unless people want to talk about it but um i would love to see that on the agenda um the formation of that committee so we can start looking at this uh holistically |
| 02:27:29.55 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:27:29.57 | Ian Sobieski | Okay. |
| 02:27:29.75 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. |
| 02:27:29.80 | Ian Sobieski | I would say that that's even a recommendation of our working group Vice Mayor and I, have been recently assigned to. |
| 02:27:36.99 | Jill Hoffman | All right. |
| 02:27:37.04 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. There's a group of interested citizens and some momentum around this. |
| 02:27:42.29 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, very good. Thank you. Do we have any other a future agenda item request. |
| 02:27:51.52 | Cleveland Knowles | Go ahead, Councilmember. |
| 02:27:52.77 | Ian Sobieski | I would just like to reiterate my recommendation. uh, and tell me if there's a reason not to, but to have, the EDAC chair present the outcome of their their substantial work around the issue we assigned them as city council which was to fix our take steps towards fixing the permitting process. They have recommendations that they've recommended to be implemented by June 30, and they are relevant to our budget discussion. So hearing that report, I think would be important for us, particularly giving us a chance to ask questions, actually even more than hearing the report. |
| 02:28:30.54 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. Any other futures and items? Yes. I Councilmember Cleveland-Nulls and Councilmember Blaustein raised their hands at the exact same moment. Go ahead, Councilmember Blaustein. |
| 02:28:42.99 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 02:28:44.00 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:28:44.02 | Melissa Blaustein | This is kind of a fun one that I think would be added. best added to consent, but I was approached by Call of the Sea about potentially adopting a resolution with which would declare Brigantine Matthew Turner as SAAS Leader's official tell ship and I would love to see that added as a resolution to our agenda and Steven Woodside from Colvacy has drafted a potential, what a resolution might look like. So I will send it to the ledger agenda setting committee to hopefully get that on the calendar in the future. |
| 02:29:11.29 | Jill Hoffman | Very good. Thank you so much. Yes. And council member Cleveland-Nulls. |
| 02:29:15.24 | Cleveland Knowles | Great. Well, that's exciting. Hopefully that won't be controversial. PB Sarah Silver, I'd like to endorse Council members so be asking item that he just mentioned and get that as quickly as possible. I also think it would be really helpful, perhaps for the Legislative Committee to consider sort of our steps post COVID I think I mentioned this earlier, but haven't. seen anything move forward. You know, we have some interim Sarah Silver, Emergency Authorization for Parkland sidewalk dining and other things that have really helped our businesses, but they may expire. with the end of the COVID emergency. And I think we should have a plan about how to have some kind of an interim. approach or whether to have an interim approach, what this council wants to do. before it is upon us and so that we can plan. So I'd like to see that. in some form. |
| 02:30:19.99 | Jill Hoffman | Is that a legislative committee or is that a recommendation during committee reports for the Blue Ribbon Economic COVID Recovery Group? I'm just... |
| 02:30:34.81 | Cleveland Knowles | I'm just- Council member Sobieski and I could meet informally and talk about that. You know, we had... It might impact, you know, we have We have some requirements. you know, in our planning code, et cetera. I don't want to get too much into a discussion right now. Perhaps staff could just, |
| 02:30:52.93 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah. |
| 02:30:54.99 | Cleveland Knowles | maybe recommend if it's legislative committee or council member Sobieski and I, and just tell us. If they think maybe the city attorney and city manager could |
| 02:31:01.45 | Ian Sobieski | Okay. |
| 02:31:04.94 | Cleveland Knowles | meet with the community development director and just see what they think is the best for them. Does that, does that work? |
| 02:31:11.86 | Ian Sobieski | It works for me. |
| 02:31:11.93 | Cleveland Knowles | worst for me. |
| 02:31:12.44 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:31:13.40 | Cleveland Knowles | Okay, right. |
| 02:31:13.47 | Ian Sobieski | Okay. Thank you. |
| 02:31:14.04 | Jill Hoffman | Right. |
| 02:31:14.80 | Cleveland Knowles | Yeah. Either forum is fine. I just think we need to start the conversation and move it forward and come to council quickly. |
| 02:31:22.41 | Jill Hoffman | I see our city manager, does that work for you? Mark. State manager. Yes, we can do that. We'll be back to you quickly. |
| 02:31:25.41 | Cleveland Knowles | measure. |
| 02:31:28.97 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. And I see vice mayor coming up in. |
| 02:31:31.25 | Cleveland Knowles | advice from your |
| 02:31:33.01 | Jill Hoffman | Oh, sorry, Councilmember |
| 02:31:34.04 | Cleveland Knowles | Cleveland, also where you're finished? No, I had two other quick things. One was just, I would like to understand at some point, I know it's tied to budget, but what our program is for our summer ambassadors and the bike. circulation and I don't know if that should be heard at PBAC first and then the Council but we are going to have my expectation is that we are going to have a very significant number of tourists arriving by bike this summer. The international travelers may not be back, but I think there's a lot of people looking for fun things to do. So we should be ready one way or another. |
| 02:32:09.58 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:32:10.57 | Cleveland Knowles | And then lastly, I just really endorse what, Mayor, what you said at the beginning of the meeting that you and Council member Sobieski discussed the interim use of the Bank of America building as quickly as possible again to start being ready for opening this summer. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:32:33.18 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:32:33.33 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. |
| 02:32:33.40 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Um, Okay, bike circulation ambassadors. That's probably something we need to discuss with the police chief. Um, And we can pose that question and I'm going to ask our city manager to pose that question to our police chief about and the preparing for the summer. And not that that's not gonna be a city council item, but that's a report would probably come back through the city manager. maybe the next city council meeting, what our plan is on that. |
| 02:33:07.79 | Chris Zapata | We can do that. I know that she's been thinking about the summer and the potential for post-COVID, excuse me, so I'm sure um either next meeting or the following, we should be able to bring you some information. |
| 02:33:22.51 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. Yes, Councilmember Silbieski and then Vice Mayor. |
| 02:33:27.72 | Ian Sobieski | My spare was first, I saw it. |
| 02:33:29.11 | Jill Hoffman | Oh, sorry. |
| 02:33:30.03 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, very good, Vice Mayor. No problem. So, you know, Mayor Hoffman, you've mentioned the land side task force before and something Council Member Blaustein said tonight reminded me that we should really revisit that. And so I don't know what form that takes. We collectively look at the recommendations. I think there were 16 of them. Maybe we look at it during budget and we figure out which of these we want to allocate to. But I would love for us to have a conversation around that. |
| 02:33:57.02 | Cleveland Knowles | Okay, thank you. So just so you know, Vice Mayor Kallman, we did have in the budget and it's in our strategic plan that the a $900,000 study that the task force recommended as the first step that kind of the other, a lot of the other recommendations tiered off of. be included in our budget and so that was where we left off and then we have a COVID emergency and never finish the implementation plan priority setting. So, um, That's where the conversation left off. |
| 02:34:31.78 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 02:34:31.80 | Cleveland Knowles | Okay. |
| 02:34:31.81 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 02:34:31.92 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:34:32.03 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, that's great background. |
| 02:34:33.45 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, no, thank you for that update. Okay. So I'm adding that to our list. Um. And we'll try to figure out where to put that in. the landslide task force and the recommendations and part of our, I think it's going to go part of our budget discussions. |
| 02:34:49.40 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:34:49.75 | Jill Hoffman | It'll go in somewhere there. Okay, so is your hand still up, Vice Mayor? Are you? That's it. Okay. And all right. Council members will be asking. |
| 02:35:00.01 | Ian Sobieski | I mentioned this before in Arctic. I'll try it again. We have a situation on Caledonia where we've closed the whole street, but because of new developments from the fire department only half the street can be used by the restaurants so It's a shame to close one lane traffic for no purpose. Kevin, our director of public works is engaged on that and is looking into recommendations to be made Um, But I I think it would be helpful to get those recommendations as soon as possible, since it's a situation that exists every weekend. of a lane that's closed and not being used for anything. |
| 02:35:37.73 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. Okay, very good. Thank you. Thank you for that. Um, Okay. All right, any other future agenda items? I'm seeing nothing. Council Member Sobieski, your hand is up, but I'm thinking that you're done. I was just guessing, but I'm guessing. Do we have any other reports of significance from the City Council? I'd say none. Okay. Um, in that case, It's... were to adjournment. At 9.35. |
| 02:36:14.89 | Ian Sobieski | Not sure what to do with that. |
| 02:36:15.22 | Jill Hoffman | What are we going to do with the rest of our night? Hey, it's lunchtime, people. It's the same time, right? Okay, thank you guys. Thanks everybody. Thanks to staff for all of your hard work getting us together, keeping us on track. |
| 02:36:23.07 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you guys. |
| 02:36:28.81 | Jill Hoffman | all your hard work on behalf of our city. Appreciate it. I know we all do. Thank you. |
| 02:36:32.15 | Cleveland Knowles | Thank you. All that. Thank you. Thank you. you Bye. |