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| 00:00:07.91 | Heidi Scoble | Okay, good afternoon, Mayor Hoffman and council members. This meeting has been held pursuant to government code section 54953E and in light of the declared state of emergency, the regular meeting of the city council for November 16, 2021 will be conducted telephonically through Zoom and broadcast live on the city's website and on channel TV. Cable TV Channel 27. |
| 00:00:35.10 | Jill Hoffman | Good evening and welcome to the regular meeting of November 16th, 2021. Mr. Clerk, would you please call the roll? |
| 00:00:44.16 | Heidi Scoble | Councilmember Sobieski. |
| 00:00:45.76 | Jill Hoffman | here. |
| 00:00:46.74 | Heidi Scoble | Councilmember Blomstein. |
| 00:00:48.46 | Jill Hoffman | here. |
| 00:00:49.44 | Heidi Scoble | Council Member Kaleb Lett-Knowles. |
| 00:00:51.11 | Jill Hoffman | Here. |
| 00:00:51.94 | Heidi Scoble | Vice Mayor Kellman. |
| 00:00:53.29 | Jill Hoffman | See you later. |
| 00:00:53.90 | Heidi Scoble | Mayor Hoffman. |
| 00:00:55.65 | Jill Hoffman | here, thank you and we're all present and there's a quorum. Tonight we will be talking about two items in closed session. Um, the first item. The first item is conference with legal counsel, existing litigation, pursuant to California government code section 54956. Point nine D one. the name of the case is Sausalito-Morin County Chapter of the California Homeless Union versus the city of Sausalito. United States District Court number 3-TAC-21-CV-01143- dash LB. The second one is Congress of Legal Counsel anticipated litigation. Significant exposure to litigation pursuant to government code section 549569D2, one potential case. And so at this point, we will take public comment on closed session items. I'm opening up the public comment right now, and this is only for closed session items that I just announced. |
| 00:02:01.73 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, I do see a hand raised with the, code TT and Timothy Logan as well. So I'll unmute guest TT. |
| 00:02:13.16 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. |
| 00:02:16.03 | Heidi Scoble | And I guess you have been unmuted. |
| 00:02:20.28 | Unknown | Thank you. I made some notes for tonight's discussion, Madam Mayor. With all due respect, in regard to current litigation, I implore you to consider the following. Before you can propose viable solutions to the lack of affordable and supportive housing, I would like you to consider the real source of the California homeless crisis. 45% of the land in California is administered by the federal government. yet our population soars at roughly 40 million. A good portion of Marin County is owned by the state and federal government and cannot be developed. GGNRA alone. claims in excess of 1 billion square feet in Southern Marin. Hundreds of thousands of dollars have been spent in litigation costs. wage war on the poor. instead of lobbying. to revert land back to the local municipality in support of a tiny house movement. Sausalito has an opportunity. to be a model for a tangible, and cost effective resolution to the nationwide crisis. However, We're literally back at square one. Dunphy Park. The city council determined that Marin Ship Park is a more appropriate publicly owned location within the city for overnight sleeping by people without homes who have no option to sleep indoors. We have options here. Ma'am. This direct action deliberate indifference. and reckless. disregard. contributed to the injury and suffering of this community. Captain Hoffman. You're a mariner. a lawyer trained by the Navy. And all of this transpired on your watch. but this is not the legacy you have to leave behind. I can attest to the fact by forcibly removing the occupants of Dunphy to Marin shit You did in fact expose the unhoused population to a significant health risk as a result of the field condition. This is a deprivation of life without due process. The government must provide protection if the government is responsible for creating the danger. instead. you've attempted to continue confining them to a snake pit. The MLK Gym at our local elementary school is not an appropriate location. Therefore, I propose that 101 Caledonia Street. be immediately converted to an emergency transitional sheltering facility and a subsequent long-term housing solution be developed. post haste. Thank you very much. |
| 00:05:14.01 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:05:18.80 | Heidi Scoble | Our next speaker is Timothy Logan. Mr. Logan, you've been asked to unmute and ask to share your video. |
| 00:05:29.23 | Timothy Logan | Can you hear me? |
| 00:05:30.43 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:05:30.44 | Timothy Logan | Yes, go ahead, sir. |
| 00:05:31.15 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:05:31.88 | Timothy Logan | Um, yeah, uh, I... One would just say that before you go to the professions that I was left with no choice but to leave from Marin. in terms of income go anywhere else where I felt safe in what happened to be back to the park because I heard that last time the meeting said that the GURP had been moved and that it basically had been cleared for in a safe area. I just got out of the emergency room because I'll put you swallow. Um, My throat hurts so bad. So, I believe my doll is through the front of the camp and the So you can do it. They came into my post form, Lay down on my bed. or with the stuff that we're on the pause somehow I must have gotten into my throat |
| 00:06:35.87 | Timothy Logan | Nobody else has had a problem with the throat. like I have a problem swallowing. So, That and the other four emergency room visits from people in camp ROOT. infections that were so severe I'm going to go. It amazed that the doctors had seen him And then the the fact that the few test results that we have gotten that so far have shown The contents of people matter is so high Yeah. They don't believe it themselves, right? Like, they're their son. all of this, the people that have done it is, it's 100% unlivable. Well, When we talked to the city council people yesterday about those conditions, they were talking about wanting to take the time to go get platforms and bring platforms in and put us in a spot where there was no fire actions. There was no, if there was a worst case scenario, a fire did break out in there. Nobody would make it out really alive, except for maybe he was the first couple of people that made it out. The doors are small, the fences are 20 foot high, and there's no way to go except for in the enclosure. um, That's because Go, go, go, go. I hope you'll talk to God. We couldn't figure out what it was from. they didn't want to place any dramatic Oh. We don't want to throw the city or anybody else under the belt. I'm talking to you in the coffee room right now. So In fact, um, We've been harassed since we've been here. So I came back here Nobody understands what's going on Marissa Parks and how it can be contaminated with race, I don't think you guys at the city council realize the danger people are in every second they stay there. |
| 00:08:45.91 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 00:08:45.92 | Timothy Logan | Oh. |
| 00:08:45.97 | Heidi Scoble | Mr. Logan, your three minutes have left. |
| 00:08:49.04 | Timothy Logan | All right. |
| 00:08:50.18 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you, sir. Thank you. Okay, I don't see any other hands up. |
| 00:08:55.52 | Heidi Scoble | That is correct, Madam Mayor. We have no other hands raised. |
| 00:08:55.61 | Jill Hoffman | That is. Okay, thank you. In that case, I'm going to close public comment. and We will remove ourselves to closed session And we will be back at seven o'clock. So we're open regular open session will be at seven. Thank you. |
| 00:09:27.15 | Jeffrey Chase | It's not that you're attractive. |
| 00:09:27.44 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. |
| 00:09:27.49 | Kristen Walzicle | Thank you. |
| 00:09:27.52 | Jeffrey Chase | Bye. |
| 00:09:27.57 | Kristen Walzicle | Thank you. |
| 00:09:30.07 | Jeffrey Chase | But all my heart grew active. |
| 00:09:34.10 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 00:09:35.05 | Heidi Scoble | Okay. |
| 00:09:39.57 | Heidi Scoble | Audio sequence is up and running. I will admit all participants. |
| 00:10:00.58 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, it looks like all participants are in. |
| 00:10:03.67 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. Good evening and welcome to the open session of the November 16th, 2021 City Council meeting. We are returning from closed session. We do not have any closed session announcements. All members of the council are present and we have a quorum. And so moving on to approval of the agenda, do I have a motion to approve the agenda for this evening? So moved. again. Thank you. Mr. Clerk, could you please take a roll call vote on that? |
| 00:10:38.06 | Heidi Scoble | Council member Sobieski? Council member Blomstein? |
| 00:10:41.94 | Eva | Yes. |
| 00:10:42.78 | Heidi Scoble | Council Member Cleveland also. |
| 00:10:51.00 | Jill Hoffman | Yes, try it like that. |
| 00:10:52.33 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 00:10:52.82 | Heidi Scoble | of Vice Mayor Killman. Thank you. |
| 00:10:54.22 | Jill Hoffman | . |
| 00:10:54.41 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. Mayor Hoffman. |
| 00:10:55.96 | Jill Hoffman | Yes, motion passes unanimously. Moving on. Next is special presentations and mayor's announcements. We don't have any announcements or special presentations tonight. The next item on our agenda, item two is action minutes of the previous meeting. Is there a motion to approve the minutes as submitted or... any corrections. |
| 00:11:19.55 | Melissa Blaustein | I don't have any corrections and I'll make a motion after public comment. Thank you. |
| 00:11:24.29 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. Okay. Um, I will then open up public comment for this item. I see no hands. |
| 00:11:34.67 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, would you like me to read how to provide public comments? |
| 00:11:38.96 | Jill Hoffman | Maybe on the next item. Right now I don't see any hands. And so if you confirm that, then I'm going to close public comment. |
| 00:11:46.00 | Heidi Scoble | You are correct. There are no hands raised at the moment. |
| 00:11:49.30 | Jill Hoffman | Very good, I'm gonna close this. There's a motion on the table, do I have a second? Second. Mr. Clerk, could you please call the roll? |
| 00:11:59.02 | Heidi Scoble | Council member Sobieski? Thank you. Councilmember Blossene. |
| 00:12:02.96 | Jill Hoffman | get this. |
| 00:12:04.09 | Heidi Scoble | Council Member Cliff Lennoz. |
| 00:12:05.64 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. |
| 00:12:06.45 | Heidi Scoble | Vice Mayor Kellman. Thank you. |
| 00:12:07.82 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. |
| 00:12:08.03 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. Mayor Hoffman. |
| 00:12:09.62 | Jill Hoffman | Yes, motion passes unanimously. Moving on to the next item, which is a consent calendar. Matters on the consent counter are considered routine and non-controversial, require no discussion, are expected to have unanimous council support, may be enacted by the council in one motion. There'll be no separate discussion of consent calendar items. However, before the council votes on a motion to adopt the consent calendar items, Council members, city staff, or members of the public may request the specific items be removed from the consent calendar for separate action. Items removed from the consent calendar will be discussed later. on the agenda and public comment will be heard on any item that was removed from the consent calendar. We have five items tonight on the consent calendar. 3A is approval of 2022 city council meeting schedule. Item 3B is approval of professional services. Agreement I'd Bailey for continued financial audit services. Item 3C is receive and file. the 2021 holiday calendar by the Bay event calendar Item 3D, recommendation for the city council to consider supporting the Marin County Board of Supervisors' position on visuals. |
| 00:13:15.45 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 00:13:16.28 | Jill Hoffman | of changing Moran's North Coast congressional district Item 3E is a fiscal year 22-22. 23 city of Sausalito budget calendar. So at this point, I would open public comment on this item. and this is for the consent calendar. Oops, sorry. Council Member Cleveland, I see your hand up. Do you have a question about the consent calendar or A comment? |
| 00:13:42.74 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah, I just had a comment and a proposal. I looked at the city council meeting schedule for 2022. and I had no issues with the calendar from January through May. I would be happy to approve that, but I did have some comments. that I provided the clerk with about a few of the other meetings. I have a work conflict with meetings on the first and third Tuesdays, so we don't need to talk about those tonight. I could do one-way communication so that other people could check their calendars. for the second half of the year, but I was wondering if there would be, if people would be amenable to just approving the January through May tonight. |
| 00:14:26.02 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, I have no objection to that amendment to the consent calendar. Can we just... |
| 00:14:31.20 | Melissa Blaustein | that we just- Thank you, I appreciate that courtesy. Thank you. |
| 00:14:34.64 | Jill Hoffman | Sure. |
| 00:14:34.71 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 00:14:36.10 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, so to be clear, the amendment is that we're gonna approve January, the city council meeting schedule from January through May 2022. Um, Is there a second on that motion? on a motion as amended. I'll second. Okay, all right then, let's move on. Let's public comment and then we'll take the roll call vote. So opening public comment for items on the consent calendar. I'm not seeing any hands. Mr. Clerk, can you confirm please? |
| 00:15:12.21 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, there are no hands raised at the moment. You stated before that you wanted me to let the public know how to provide public comment. |
| 00:15:22.54 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, well, since there's no hands, We'll do that. Okay, go ahead and read it. Go ahead and read it, I guess now. It's a good time. |
| 00:15:31.97 | Heidi Scoble | Video or public comment participation is limited to three minutes per speaker. If you would like to make a comment, please raise your hand in the Zoom application, and you will be called upon when it's your time to speak. To raise your hand from a phone, press start nine, and each speaker will be notified when the time has elapsed. Madam Mayor, I see no hands raised. |
| 00:15:53.00 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thanks, Mr. Clerk. In that case, I'll close public comment on the consent calendar items and We have a motion on the table. We have a second. Could you please call the roll? |
| 00:16:03.63 | Heidi Scoble | Council member Sobieski? Councilmember Blomstein. |
| 00:16:07.52 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. |
| 00:16:08.35 | Heidi Scoble | Council Member Cleveland Knowles. |
| 00:16:09.85 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. |
| 00:16:10.60 | Heidi Scoble | Vice Mayor Kelman. |
| 00:16:11.88 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. |
| 00:16:12.57 | Heidi Scoble | Mayor Hoffman. |
| 00:16:13.55 | Jill Hoffman | Yes, motion passes unanimously. Item four, public hearing items. There are no public hearing items tonight. Item five is business items. We have three business items tonight. The first one is 5A, it's fee level rise task force report, and that's gonna be given by our vice mayor. Bye-bye. Item 5B is consider adopting a resolution directing the preparation of interim guidance rules and regulations to implement SB9, the California Home Act, and directing the preparation of an SB9 implementing ordinance. That's gonna be given by our Mary Wagner, our city attorney, And our third item on Our business item is 5C, and that's gonna be the library department overview, and that's a continuation of our plan this year. part of the year to have department updates from various departments within the city. And so I'm looking forward to all three of these items. And let's start with item 5A, the Sea Level Rise Task Force. and Madam Vice President, |
| 00:17:17.03 | Janelle Kellman | you have the floor. |
| 00:17:17.81 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:17:18.47 | Janelle Kellman | All right, thank you, Mayor Hoffman, and thank you, council members, for giving me the opportunity to present this to you this evening. Before we get started, I do want to thank by the members of the county staff and of NOAA that joined us tonight. and your support and your information working with us was invaluable. I also want to recognize our entire task force who are listed in the presentation. And tonight joining me will be Lisa Chilino from Sausalito Beautiful, as well as Cass Green, who you may know as the vice chair of EDAC, who is also a GIS mapping expert. They are going to support me and help me on the presentation. So Serge, I can share my screen. Is that appropriate? |
| 00:17:57.92 | Heidi Scoble | That is correct by our mayor. |
| 00:17:59.95 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, great. So go ahead and get started. |
| 00:18:07.67 | Janelle Kellman | Great. Well, thank you, everybody. I'm assuming you can see my screen. Welcome to the presentation for the Sea Level Rise Task Force. This was started at the direction of Mayor Hoffman back in March of 2021 with a deliverable outlined to be given to the Council of Report and Recommendations based on our review of as much material as we could possibly read. So before we get started, I think you probably all know what we're looking at right now. This is Gate 5 Road right outside of Heath. I took it on a shopping excursion. And you can see we have flooding. This is one of several locations throughout our community where we are challenged to figure climate change, and climate change dealing with sea level rise, storm surges, and king tides. as well as subsidence in that area. So the task force was put together to plan for Sausalito's infrastructure priorities with a sea level rise lens. And we looked at four main areas that we're going to cover tonight. The first is the focus, the why, the scope, and also the members of the task force. We'll take you through the process, the data, the research, and the models we looked at. We'll review the assessment, the infrastructure vulnerabilities and planning, And then we can review some of the conclusions that are contained in the 20-page report that we also submitted. for the city council's review and consideration. So I don't want to make an assumption that we're all on the same page, but we are going to cover what is sea level rise and why we should care. And what are some of the expected impacts in Sausalito? So as most of you probably know, sea level rise is an increase in the level of the world's oceans due to the effects of global warming. What many people don't realize is that global warming is also contributing to storm surges and king tides. which we, of course, deal with here in Sausalito on a regular basis. because of that and because of the instances of flooding that we already are experiencing, we decided that we would look at this more thoroughly. And we have blended this in throughout the general plan. And most recently, on October 30th, the City Council Hover Prioritization Workshop, where we emphasized the need to plan for city infrastructure. And we looked at our sewer systems, our stormwater systems, and major access routes, and we had some acknowledgment that in the face of sea level rise, we had some challenges. So as you move through town, Many instances, Gate 5 Road is not the only one. Sea level rise manifests itself as well as erosion. So if you go to Swedes Beach or Tiffany Beach, you'll see massive erosion. I've lived here 20 years. There's much less beach there than there used to be. There are multiple signs that Sausalito is being impacted by sea level rise. So you may recognize this from the storm event that we saw most recently, actually two weeks ago, I pulled this from director Kevin McGowan's DPW Public Works report that he provided to the council back at the end of October, but just some instances that community and our staff had snapped of flooding within our community. So at the outset, task force was formed with three mission and goals. The first understands also vulnerabilities from sea level rise and what are some of the long-term implications. How does this impact or interplay with things like subsidence, storm surges, king tides, and groundwater upswells, And where do we have some specific opportunities to look at these vulnerabilities more thoroughly, drive community engagement and review adaptation options to address potential impacts. Thank you. I cannot thank this task force enough. This was just a phenomenal group. of talented, smart, motivated human beings who really gave their heart and soul to this. we started off meeting once a month and we ended up meeting every monday for about seven months so this is a this is our group a huge thank you really talented and motivated individuals and we certainly couldn't have done this without you it was great team effort The task force divided itself into four macro focus areas. We looked at communications, solutions, collaboration, and funding. And over the last nine months, we developed a series of tools, including a website for Sausalito, a list of partners and collaboration opportunities, a survey, interactive map, a vulnerability assessment, some pilot areas, initial look at funding, and then of course the report and recommendations. So at this point, I'm gonna invite Cass Green to describe for us the interactive maps and she took the lead on that. So Cass, if you are available. |
| 00:22:33.25 | Cass Green | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 00:22:34.13 | Janelle Kellman | you |
| 00:22:34.30 | Cass Green | Thank you very much, Vice Mayor. Um, I'm happy to introduce this to the council. What we did was create an interactive map that has several layers, and I'll be demoing this, I understand, at the end of Janelle's, of the Vice Mayor's presentation. but we created, put several layers in, including storm drains, water infrastructure points, water pipelines, contours, several, six sea level rise scenarios, building footprints, parcel boundaries, Oops, I was asked to start my video, so I will. Here we go. And put those all together in the map, you can see an image of it right now, and it will be available to the public. for people to be able to query. And I'll be showing it later on, so I don't want to go into much detail here. Thank you. |
| 00:23:27.69 | Janelle Kellman | All right. Thank you, Cass. So we're really proud of that map. I casted a huge lift in locating disparate data sources and bringing that together. We have presented this to the county. We presented it to a number of local agencies just to show the art of what is possible when you have all the data in one place and motivate individuals to bring it together. So I want to just advise everybody who's watching this that we followed a very straight methodology. We wanted to make sure that everything we presented tonight was grounded in existing facts and science and models. And so our methodology really relied on a combination of three sort of overlapping methods. It's from NOAA's coastal adaptation planning and climate guidance. We utilize BCDC's adapting to rising tides, which was just finalized at the end of last month, and the resilience guidance from the governor's office on emergency services. Our resources included a vast amount of research and quite honestly, it took us a couple of weeks to really wrap our heads around how much information and data was out there. But we looked at a number of regional studies, BCDC, DAPT and the Rising Tide, Shoreline Vulnerability Index, as well as BayWave, which is Marin County's work, and the work of the San Francisco Estuary Institute or SFDI. We really focused on collaboration and learning as much as we could from various experts. So we often had a guest speaker at our Monday meetings and we had about 30 plus meetings over seven months with local and regional and national experts. Everyone from regulators and scientists to folks who spend their lives looking at sea level rise modeling, wetlands, estuaries, etc. We really wanted to learn as much as we could and try to apply that to our community. And this methodology really can be kind of captured in this screenshot here, which is sort of a five step process for engagement. Scope and organize what the problem is and what we have to address the problem. Take a look at the vulnerabilities and Lisa's gonna guide us through that. Develop a vision and an approach, begin to identify some of the adaptation options and then ultimately develop adaptation pathways. I think it's fair to say we got about halfway through this based on what we were capable of doing in terms of our expertise. And tonight we're here to present this to the council to also advise and recommend that we hire experts to help us complete this study for our community. So some of the resources that we looked at As I mentioned, we spent the first couple of weeks assessing and evaluating an enormous amount of information. I included here some of the key documents and websites and data models that we looked at. And if anyone is interested in learning more, happy to provide this information and these links for your information. I also just want to make a quick point about collaboration, extremely important to us. So we had a series of meetings with Sausalito City staff and organizations. Disaster Preparedness, Sustainability Commission, Community Development Department DPW. But we also met with county staff and stakeholders and you can see that long list and then As we get further down, the regional and national experts that we met with, it becomes a very small font because we had a lot of meetings. So you can see folks from UC Berkeley School of Urban Design, as well as folks from SFI, NOAA, and other local environmental assessment organizations. So we're very lucky to have the opportunity to have really reached far and wide for information. So I am going to, I think, hand it over at this point to Lisa to take us through the next few slides. |
| 00:27:13.62 | Lisa Chilino | So I wanted to talk about our vulnerability assessment, which is the heart and soul really any sea level rise effort. And it's the first major milestone in Sausalito's journey towards adapting to sea level rise. You can think of the vulnerability assessment as describing the problems or impacts that rising waters have on various assets. such as infrastructure, residents, and businesses. The physical assets are mainly vulnerable to flooding and erosion, But there are other assets. There's societal, for example, the marine ship economic engine will be affected by sea level rise. And that will impact the city of Sausalito's tax revenues. Another interesting thing about the vulnerability assessment is that it can be done now. And it's really fact-based. There's no real bait or controversy over what assets are potentially vulnerable. science tells us. So one of the first major things the task force did was to formulate a vulnerability assessment. And lucky for us, the County of Marin did a first pass at that vulnerability assessment for Sausalito in 2017. So the task force started with the county's 18 page document. We also used information from more recent reports like the San Francisco Bay Adaptation Atlas, and other reports from the San Francisco Estuary Institute and BCDC. And as Janelle mentioned, we met with local experts such as the Department of Public Works and the Sanitary District to add local knowledge do that vulnerability assessment. AND I THINK THAT'S A And then we put all of these vulnerable assets into a spreadsheet in a hierarchical structure so that we could characterize each of the assets and make all that information more actionable So for each of the assets, we looked at characteristics like its elevation above the current sea level and its sensitivity to rising water. So parks, for example, may not be as sensitive as buildings to rising waters or flooding. During that process, we also kept track of significant gaps in the data. For example, We currently have no data on the vulnerabilities of our telecom, gas, electric and potable water infrastructure. So all those things need further investigation. So where do we go from here? Well, our current vulnerability assessment spreadsheet has over 100 assets and 10 key characteristics but it needs to be completed. These are the gaps, for example. We also need to prioritize the vulnerabilities based on community input. So the task force highlighted 12 vulnerabilities that we think are critical. The most obvious is all the frontline residents and businesses on the waterfront that are vulnerable to rising waters. What you may not realize is that a lot of our infrastructure, our wastewater and stormwater system, key vulnerabilities because they're critical to all residents in Sausalito, whether you live on a houseboat, in the flats near Caledonia or high up on the hill. If you can't flush your toilet, you're not a happy camper. So, just see. something near and dear to my heart are the parks in Sausalito and the majority of our parks are your waterfront. So all these are key vulnerabilities. By having a spreadsheet of these assets and characteristics, our community will be a long way to understanding our most acute vulnerabilities. And this allows us to go to the next step in the methodology get the community involved, and look at our options for adaptation. And so now I'll pass things back to Janelle. |
| 00:30:51.07 | Janelle Kellman | who will talk more broadly about next steps. Right. Thank you, Lisa. So we like to think of vulnerabilities as opportunities because of course it gives us the opportunity to take action and be proactive and to make our community even more resilient. And so we divided the report into immediate short term and long term recommendations. The immediate recommendations include things like completing the city specific vulnerability assessment, updating societal planning and permitting guidance. planning for infrastructure with a sea level rise lines, uh hiring to fill key needs around grants which is something the city council has spoken about our prior workshop and of course engage in community education and outreach Some of the long and medium term actions are a little bit more complicated, but they rely on some of the immediate steps. So an adaptation pathway strategy will help us figure out what steps to take and how to be most efficient with our resources. Developing a Southern Marin Richardson Bay coalition will help us develop a regional approach because it turns out water doesn't actually understand that the boundaries exist between communities. So we want to work with our, our neighbors to see how we can be more powerful, including partnerships with Marin city and Marin County. We also will continue to look at things like the Saucyoc General Plan, look at ways to inspire innovation to address the level rise impacts, look for opportunities for additional partnerships at the state and federal level. So in summary, we certainly have an opportunity here. We have medium, immediate, medium, and long-term opportunities. Again, we really think we should start with completing a sausage-specific vulnerability assessment. As Lisa mentioned, the initial one that we looked at came directly from the work that Marin County had performed with the Bayway vulnerability assessment. And what we did is we poured through that and we made it into a very detailed spreadsheet but it came from county work we also think there's an opportunity to plan for infrastructure and look at our permitting and our planning guidance includes sea level rise and climate decisions and look at eliminating silos so that we can plan more efficiently and more effectively as well as drive community engagement So I just want to thank everybody for their time. And again, a huge thank you to the task force and the co-author on the report. Lisa did an amazing job and CAS with the map, phenomenal. So I'm actually gonna stop sharing my screen and turn it over to you, CAS, to walk the city council through the interactive map and explain where some of the data came from. |
| 00:33:22.43 | Cass Green | Great. Thank you very much. Have you stopped sharing? READ. |
| 00:33:35.62 | Cass Green | I'm assuming that people can see that. Wait, not yet. Here we go. The people can see that now? |
| 00:33:43.19 | Janelle Kellman | Here we go. |
| 00:33:44.05 | Cass Green | You got it? So what I'm starting with is the imagery that was flown over all of Marin County in 2016. and you can see the beautiful imagery, but you really can't do much with it until it's a map. So you need to add map information into it. So I'm going to add in building And I'm gonna add in the parcel layer. So here's the parcel. And then we can... Just for your reference, here is the Spinnaker, here's the ferry landing, and up here is Molly Stone. So you start to get more information and not just look at imagery. And then we're gonna zoom in to Higher resolution, well, maybe a little bit too much there. Go back out. |
| 00:34:30.31 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:34:34.27 | Cass Green | And another great layer that we have in the interactive map is actually the hillshade, which should be coming up. property. I got to turn the earth. Here we go. is the hillshade layer. Hillshade is made from high resolution LIDAR data, and it starts to give you an indication of both the slope and the aspect and the elevation. of the landscape. In this area underneath the building And then we also have, we zoom in a little bit more, Uh, for areas. close to the shore. We have contours. So these are the one-foot contours. from the sea level all the way up to about 15 feet. So you've gotta zoom in because it's a very demanding layer of time, but all the contours are in there too. So I'm gonna zoom back out. And we'll look at the imagery too, bring the imagery back on. Here's the imagery with the contours. AND WE'LL DO Alec, a little bit more. The contours will go away just briefly. Yeah, we'll go out a little bit more. |
| 00:35:49.62 | Unknown | Hold on. |
| 00:35:52.52 | Cass Green | So we have other layers in this map, too, that are critical to understanding sea level rise. We have all of the Storm drains, city of Sausalito's storm drains, they've just popped up in yellow. So if the storm drains, are underwater, that creates huge problems for the entire city. We also have other infrastructure points And the pipeline. for the entire city. You can see the water pipelines coming up. We have finally the sea level rise scenarios. Again, these are the scenarios from the county. We did not create these. We took the scenarios from the county. And I'm just gonna go through the six scenarios that the county has worked with USGS to develop. And they are, The first one is 10 inch sea level rise with no storm surge. And then we get the next one is sea level rye with the storm surge, with a 100-year storm surge. The next one is a 20 inch sea level rise. without storm surge. The next is 20 inches with storm surge, and you can start to see areas getting buried by the water. And then we've got the 60-inch sea level rise, and then the 60-inch with storm surge. So you can really see over time we're gonna have some serious problems in Sausalito. The final functionality I wanted to show is that you can Also, just put in an address. or a place like such as Carl. the store. Carl, the store, there it is. And we all love Carl, so I thought I'd I'm going to take on them because I love that story. And you can see we've come in to where Carl's is located right here. And with the 60-inch sea level rise, that store is in pretty bad problems. So that's my summary, Vice Mayor and Council. If you have any questions, I'm more than happy to answer them. This was map, the interactive map will be in the public domain. And so the public can actually use it and interact with it. We have to put some disclaimers on it, but I think pretty much it's ready to go. Thanks very much. |
| 00:38:24.14 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you, Cass. Would you mind also just telling us the data sources for the underlying layers? |
| 00:38:30.37 | Cass Green | I don't think I can do all of those. |
| 00:38:32.50 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. |
| 00:38:32.82 | Cass Green | Thank you. But, well, I will, I'll go through these. Storm drains, water infrastructure points, water pipelines, those all come from either MarinMAP, which is Marin County's data set, or from the city of Sausalito, they're provided to us. The vegetation map is, I didn't even turn that on, but it is from the Marin County. The six sea level rise scenarios are also from Marin County. There are lots of different scenarios, mostly one's driven by a NOAA model and one's driven by USGS, Marin County decided to choose the USGS model because it has storm surge in it. And, you know, frankly, the models are not that very different, but the storm surge addition is really important. Marin County buildings are also the Marin County data set. The Parsons are Marin County data set. The Hillshade is a Marin Downing data set, and so are the Orthos, or Marin County data sets. They're all in the public domain and available. And as Janelle knows, I was involved in building a lot of those data sets, which is what got me linked into this task force. |
| 00:39:39.74 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you Cass, really amazing work and I'll just for the podcast on the back and say we presented this to the county and the county head of their DPW, and they immediately reached out to cast to figure out how can they create something like this for the county. And we've been asked to help other communities outline how they could have a similar interactive map. So I think we're going to be seeing this as a standard of gold standard for the rest of Southern Marin and potentially Marin County. Great, great work. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:40:09.80 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Excellent work by the task force, a tremendous amount of work. And so do we have any questions from the council members to the task force or with regard to the findings? Or are we ready to move on to public comment? Yeah, council member So, Bieski, I see your hand up. |
| 00:40:30.82 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah, hey, thanks a lot. And Cass, I just so, if people don't know Cass owns the In Above Tides along with their brothers, But she also has a whole career doing this sort of thing, which is just so much fun to look at. I'm an aerospace guy looking down on the earth through satellites all the time when I was in school and I love this stuff. Really fun work. Thank you. One thought I had to clarify this in the discussion that goes forward. when looking at maps like this, which looks scary, is to add to your I think that different inches not just the raw inches, but the probability as assessed. by the That's the science that we know. When I look at, um, from the state of California that the odds in 2100 of a two foot sea level rise is about 70%. for the 2100 timeframe, that seems like a, a number we want to think about. The chance of four feet, though, only drops to 8%, so it seems a bit of an outlier. |
| 00:41:34.32 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 00:41:34.78 | Ian Sobieski | I'm going to go ahead and AND, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO you know, particularly, you know, the very first graph, it looks like a wave that's going to crash on us. It looks very tsunami-like and, uh, and kind of acute and extremely worrisome. This whole subject does have the benefit of a disaster that's unfolding over time. And so while there are some things that, you know, we definitely need to plan for, it's not the same thing as a tsunami where you have to run for the high ground. So attaching probabilities seems like an important part of this discussion. And comparing those probabilities with the other risks we face, like the 20% chance of a magnitude 7 greater earthquake and other kinds of disasters, just the level set where we where we spend our anxiety. on all these issues and how we respond to them. MR. and I know that there were various recommendations there. And one that I would love to add in is sort of engineering solutions to these. You know, a third of Holland is underwater. New Orleans lives and has lived. throughout almost its entire history with acute flooding, not just from the Mississippi River, but from the regular occurrence of disastrous hurricanes that bring on the kind of flooding you're talking about here over 100 years in just 100 hours. And so they managed to figure out ways of living with that kind of inundation in their felt environment. And so in addition to regulations on building and whatnot, there is some thought that it ought to be given towards direct defensive measures that could be established to prevent all the storm from being put underwater. So those are my thoughts. Thanks. |
| 00:43:16.35 | Jill Hoffman | So let me ask a follow-up question. With regard to the recommendations, Vice Mayor, one of them was long-term recommendation on infrastructure, right? And responses to sea level rise. |
| 00:43:32.43 | Janelle Kellman | Correct. Yes. So obviously we need to finalize the vulnerability assessments. If you understand where and how to evaluate the opportunities to address these with the council members, so we ask these point, certainly engineering solutions should be included in that assessment as well as nature based solutions and adaptations. So, |
| 00:43:53.97 | Jill Hoffman | THE END OF |
| 00:43:54.27 | Janelle Kellman | you |
| 00:43:54.52 | Jill Hoffman | Let's see, I'm looking down to report, what page in the report were the recommendations from the, I know that they were, I just saw a slide on that, recommendations to council for action. So on page 13 of the report, That's where they start. There's immediate short term and then medium and long term recommendations. I think, what are we, there are 17 recommendations. So that the task force is proposing for adoption, I think, going forward. any other And there was, I think, slide. I can't remember what slides they were, The Vice Mayor talked about them on the slides that we just went over. And we can certainly go over those again after, maybe after We do. public comment and we come back for our recommendations. So in direction from the city council. Okay, so I see any other questions from the City Council or should we move on to public comments? Okay, I don't see anything. All right, moving on to public comment then. I'll open up public comment for this item, which is sea level rise presentation. Okay, so I see five hands up. you Mr. Clerk, I'll let you call it out. |
| 00:45:20.79 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, our mayor, First speaker would be William Versace. And William, you've been asked to be unmuted and asked to share your video. |
| 00:45:28.84 | Jill Hoffman | That's great. Hang on just a second. So I just heard, I just saw a sixth hand go up. So I think we're getting into the range of, and now I see a seven. So if the rest of the council agrees, I'm gonna limit public comment on this to two minutes. Um, If everybody agrees, If there's any, anybody disagree with that? No one on the council district that. Okay. So for this portion of public comment, we're going to limit a public comment to two minutes a person. Sorry. Okay. Go ahead, Mr. Bustaki. |
| 00:45:59.82 | William Versace | Hi, it's Bill Versace. I'm not gonna waste a lot of your time. That is absolutely incredible. work and an incredible report. I just wanted to know whether The rest of, I live in Old Town, so we have a similar problem. and wondered whether your study includes the entire waterfront. |
| 00:46:22.53 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, I'll let the vice mayor speak to that when we get back. I, when we come back up for our public, or our, sorry, our comments, city council comments. So, you're welcome. Okay, and Mr. Clark, I'll just let you call the next speaker. |
| 00:46:34.61 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:46:34.92 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 00:46:40.76 | Heidi Scoble | Next speaker is a fine day for saline, and you've been unmuted and asked to share your video. |
| 00:46:55.19 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:46:55.22 | Heather Richard | I'm not sure. |
| 00:46:55.47 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:46:55.49 | Heather Richard | Thank you. |
| 00:46:55.54 | Jill Hoffman | Ma'am, I... |
| 00:46:56.55 | Heather Richard | Yeah. |
| 00:46:57.77 | Jill Hoffman | There you go. |
| 00:46:59.25 | Heather Richard | Hi, sorry, this is Heather Richard. I'm on my work iPad. So I had a couple questions about the work that had been previously done around Dumphy Park and I wanted to ask what happened to the Pernusky Chatham design for the renewal of the marsh on the south side of Dunphy Park and the storm I recall, but might be misled that the storm drains were also included. There was a lot of storm drain work in that one. Jonathan Goldman was working on the project. Is that something that has been considered in that the task force considered in your work? Really good work, by the way, I appreciate that a lot. |
| 00:47:37.10 | Eva | TODAY. |
| 00:47:38.89 | Heather Richard | Um, And also, I just wanted to put out there as well that Galilee Harbor has been working on our own on some nature based adaptation ideas that came out of the study, the feasibility study for a wave equator to protect the park. from storm surge. I know that doesn't address sea level rise, but the storm surge could be much less than Also, we could be used a bit as a guinea pig or a testing ground for a larger nature-based adaptation potentially span more of the Sausalito waterfront if we find that it works. So if the city is interested in partnering with us on that, we are at the table. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:48:28.98 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:48:29.64 | Heather Richard | Thank you. |
| 00:48:32.64 | Heidi Scoble | Our next speaker is Elva. Elva, you've been asked to, Be unmuted and ask to share your video. |
| 00:48:47.98 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. So we're not, there you go, yeah. |
| 00:48:50.56 | Unknown | We're not here. |
| 00:48:52.77 | Jill Hoffman | Go ahead. |
| 00:48:55.34 | Jeffrey Chase | Hi, this is Jeff Jacob Chase from Camp Gormorant Revival here at Marin Ships. You. have responded now to a demand to declare a climate emergency. with steps towards adaptation, with no steps towards mitigation. not one. Sausalito and Marin County Use eight times the energy. of a peasant, a paisano in Mexico. There have been zero steps to mitigate the sea level rise from Sausalito, California and from Marin County. who are in the top 10 in the world in their production of carbon output, pollution. and such. The wealthy of this country and of the world. The top 10%. produce 50% of the carbon output. 50% of the people produced 10% of the output. So I will now look with the two minutes that you so graciously given, The scope of the problem is immense. What we can do is we can declare a climate emergency now THE PEOPLE WHO CARE, And most of The solution is something called megawatts. Don't use it. Don't buy. Unless you have to, Don't use carbon unless you have to. Do not buy into the idea that this is now going to be a money grab, like the homeless industrial complex has become here. for rich lawyers and consultants and politicians and those close to them. The vision is something called Jubilee. That is... Forgive the debts, set the prisoners free, and everybody gets a place to live. Until that's done, all we are going to be hearing is lip service towards this issue and a money grab for the connected and the already wealthy. |
| 00:51:08.48 | Heidi Scoble | Jeff, your three minutes have a left. |
| 00:51:09.29 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you very much. |
| 00:51:11.05 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. Moving on to our next |
| 00:51:15.60 | Heidi Scoble | Our next speaker is Vicki, Vicki Nichols. You've been unmuted and has to share your video. |
| 00:51:23.20 | Vicki Nichols | Hi there, council and council members, Mayor Seas-Muth, excuse me. I want to send kudos to the task force team. THIS IS A VERY WELL pulled together source of all the amazing work that's been going on since at least 2013. So just the idea of pulling this all together, which I guess in good part I heard was due to Lisa's abilities, Thank you very much. I think this goes very far in educating the public how deeply they want to know or not. about the issue with all the sources quoted. I'm thrilled that Cass was able to put all those layers and maps in 2013 when Kate Sears had a little task force we worked on. That was a dream. that we had and now it's in existence. We had actually layers, paper layers of how this would work. So that's wonderful. I like the recommendations. I believe that you've... taken a good portion of your time to get your baseline education. and get up to speed and now it's time for action. So I hope that you'll expand ability of the public to engage with you on these committees. I also would like to talk about two things. The communication outreach is vital. It should start immediately. and the funding. I am broken record on this, but we have a Tidelands Fund, which was established for the state lands public trust that we received from the state. That fund can only be used for waterfront improvements. And I would suggest again, that a portion of those leases be dedicated to a fund that we can use for matching funds to leverage grants as they come available. I asked Charlie about this years ago. He said it was possible. So I'm just going to keep beating the drum Unlike other jurisdictions who don't have this ability, we would have maybe a leg up. We must plan with their other partners, as my Dutch friend says when we BAR- YOU KNOW, bar water from ourself, we're pushing it away, we're pushing it on other people. So we have to take a regional approach and in terms... Vicki, Vicki. |
| 00:53:34.40 | Heidi Scoble | Vicki, Vicki, two minutes have left. |
| 00:53:36.20 | Vicki Nichols | two minutes that'll last. Thank you. |
| 00:53:37.97 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:53:39.24 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 00:53:39.26 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:53:40.09 | Heidi Scoble | Our next speaker is Joan Cox. Joan, you've been unmuted and asked to share your video. |
| 00:53:48.12 | Joan Cox | Good evening council members. Thank you to the task force for this amazing report As a municipal lawyer, this is an issue that I work with various municipalities on, I'm currently working with the city of Menlo Park on a $50 million FEMA grant, |
| 00:54:06.22 | Unknown | and grant. |
| 00:54:07.54 | Joan Cox | to mitigate. level rise. But their project is actually part of a regional project with six different cities. And PG&E and Facebook, those of whom have waterfront facilities are contributing 20 million to the project. I note in Marin that we have Um, Tibberon. allocated a $380,000 grant from Marin County Department of Public Works to design a project to mitigate eroding Greenwood Beach Belvedere hopes to have a tax proposition on the ballot in 2022 to pay for a $28 million seawall and infrastructure protection project. These piecemeal projects, I think, could benefit from the type of collaboration enunciated in item 11 and 12 of the recommendations before you tonight. As Ray Whiffey used to say, this is a regional issue that merits a regional solution funded by a group, not piecemeal solutions funded by individual municipalities. With the passage of the Biden legislation, I know there are opportunities to obtain funding to assist with these types of infrastructure projects. The contact is the Office of Intergovernmental Affairs at the White House. And I would recommend reaching out to them to obtain additional assistance in understanding what funding is best available for this country. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:55:39.83 | Heidi Scoble | Our next speaker is Jenny. Jenny, you've been asked to be unmuted and asked to share your video. |
| 00:55:51.29 | Jenny Silva | Hi there, thanks. First off, the main teamwork, thank you so much for everything you've put into this. Secondly, I just wanna second Council Member Szeveski's comments that the map should include the probabilities as well as the sea level rise number. And the primary point I wanted to make is just, I wanted to note that Sausalito is currently in the process of putting together its housing element. I'm on the Sausalito. HE ACTUALLY AND, UM, As a city, the greatest mitigation we can do for sea level rise is to house our workforce. And as we look at the accommodations and the mitigations, that we put into place to address the sea level rise we need to make sure that it also addresses our ability to build housing for the people that need it and for the folks that work in the city. And that's all I have to say. Bye. |
| 00:56:49.19 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:56:52.97 | Heidi Scoble | Our next speaker is Tom Hoover and Tom, you've been unmuted and asked to share your video. |
| 00:57:00.22 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 00:57:00.81 | Tom Hoover | Yeah. |
| 00:57:00.81 | Heidi Scoble | I'm not sure. |
| 00:57:01.17 | Tom Hoover | Thank you. How's that? |
| 00:57:03.53 | Jill Hoffman | That's good, sir. We can hear you and see you. |
| 00:57:05.61 | Tom Hoover | Okay, I just wanted to second what Heather had said. Galilee Harbor is working. on. our part of the environment. and Galilee Harbor and Dunceap Park are all one little ecological niche. And, Uh, We have plans and we've been looking also for funding. I was noted, it was noted to me that the League of Women Voters also has, has environmental relationships with people who want to do funding for nature-based attenuations. And I noticed also in the study, that what Sylvia Eski had talked about is that in terms of what was being done for Gao, for Shunty Park. percent. per se. the attenuation system we're trying to take in. at least a full two feet. of sea level rise as part of the ideas that they wanted to put forward. in terms of the, uh, the little balls and stuff, building uh the office. reefs and things. And so that Galilee has been working in Galilee And I'm sure that also the Screamwalker We all want to work. We've been doing our own, do our own Excuse me. the and we want to participate in that outreach. so that we can do our part not only to protect our own little space, and the Yeah. What do you call it? non-human. cultural resource of our marshes. So that's what I was thinking. Yeah. wanted to point out. that we're working on it. We're looking forward. to be. in especially in the next system of outreach, you're participating and helping all of the rest of our other citizens and the city and everybody to achieve the goals, the wonderful goals, this thing. I'd like everyone else. He used a Scots term, I was gobbled-smacked by the beauty of all of the work that we did. So thank you. |
| 00:59:09.99 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. |
| 00:59:13.47 | Heidi Scoble | Next speaker is Eva's iPhone. Eva, you've been unmuted and asked to share your video. |
| 00:59:20.98 | Eva | Thanks so much. Can you hear me okay? Thank you. |
| 00:59:22.78 | Jill Hoffman | Yes, we can. Thank you. |
| 00:59:25.13 | Eva | I have to agree with Jeff Jacobson. |
| 00:59:27.96 | Unknown | TO BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO |
| 00:59:29.06 | Eva | Thank you. |
| 00:59:29.08 | Unknown | his statement, that this is, you know, essentially it feels a little bit like whistling past the graveyard. If we're only looking at abatement and we're not looking at mitigation, we're always going to be way way doing far less than we need to and i thought the you know the comments from I'm not sure. Ms. Cox and Ms. Nichols were really telling. There seems to be no vision, no larger vision for the ways that we as a society have to change. I found out recently when I went to go see what was happening at the encampment in Sausalito, I was pleased to see so many people working together. trying to make the camp as livable as possible, and really it was pretty inspiring. But these are people who are having an incredibly small impact. on the environment. They live with this tiny carbon footprint and the reward for being as good as they are, for being this selfless has been to, you know, first have their boats crushed in the name of a sort of fake environmentalism. and then to be put into a camp where it turns out there have been all sorts of problems which could or could not have been foreseen but need to be addressed as soon as possible. I'm sympathetic to, you know, Thank you. THE SITUATION THAT COUNCIL FINDS ITSELF IN but I'm begging you TO THINK BIGGER. I MEAN, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT creating tax incentives for people in Sausalito. Let Sausalito be a model Um, for other cities and towns to show what you can do by creating tax incentives for people to use less instead of continuing to reward people for being wasteful consumers. Thank you so much. Thank you. |
| 01:01:40.18 | Heidi Scoble | Our next speaker is Sandra Bushmaker. Sandra, you've been unmuted and asked to share your video. |
| 01:01:48.46 | Sandra Bushmaker | Good evening, council. I just wanted to give a public thank you to the task force for doing such a terrific job in getting this project started. And it was obviously a huge mountain to climb. to get to this point. And I want you to know, I appreciate it. And I'm sure the city council, the rest of the council and the citizens do too. I would like to encourage Oh, and the other comment I had, it was music to my ears to hear such strong science-based work that was done. And I would encourage the council to get behind future work and furtherance of this project. because it's vital to all of us, whether we're up on the hill or whether we are down on the waterfront. It's important to all of us. So thank you very much again. Thank you. |
| 01:02:44.30 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, it looks like we have no further hands raised at the moment. |
| 01:02:49.26 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. In that case, Thank you. I'll close public comment. and bring it back up to the council for discussion and or direction Um, So I think based on I think based on some of the comments that council member Sobieski made, I went back and looked at the report. It looks like Some of those things are covered in the recommendations that we had. Um, Sorry, I'm going back up. |
| 01:03:19.99 | Unknown | you |
| 01:03:21.07 | Jill Hoffman | the plan for infrastructure recommendation number three, plan for infrastructure with the sea level a sea level rise lens and that was applying, you know, sea level rise planning lens and infrastructure projects and things. So Vice Mayor, if you have any comments Yeah. The recommendations or. |
| 01:03:42.67 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah. Or you? Thank you. |
| 01:03:45.07 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:03:45.10 | Janelle Kellman | I think that's a good question. |
| 01:03:45.74 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 01:04:03.62 | Janelle Kellman | um you know ones that we would follow because we still are in the information gathering stage so i appreciate that comment and i hope we do include that with our overall long-term planning um also just mentioned that on the topic of probabilities uh footnote eight page three uh does explain that graphic and mentions those probabilities but i'll i'll leave it to to cast to figure out how you handle that in a map, but that was addressed. Somebody asked whether this applied to the entire waterfront, and of course, it applies to the entire town, the entire community. anything within Sausalito is covered under this and covered under the Bayway vulnerability assessment, as well as the map that, and the design of the storm drains. Task force member Terry Thomas is an ecologist. She worked with the Department of Health and Health. She worked with the Department of Health. She worked with the Department of Health. on that project with the North Bay Conservation Corps, she could explain what has happened to date and what the opportunities are there as well. And then the city manager knows this, Sausalito has been named as one of three locations by the State Coastal Conservancy for a very large grant that they're helping SFBI apply for from the SF Bay Restoration Authority, I think in the around 5 million or so. And what they want to do is they want to use Dunphy Park as a test location for seven different nature-based solutions and approaches to sea level rise, including wave attenuation mechanisms, much like Galilee Harbor has looked at. So if there's more interest in that, I know Terry's on the call and I'm sure she could explain it for me. |
| 01:05:36.23 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, so at this point we did not have a staff report that went along with this, but I think the action, you know, that we're looking for from the rest of the council is to accept the report and give direction to implement the recommendation. |
| 01:05:51.78 | Melissa Blaustein | And the punishment's low. |
| 01:05:53.72 | Jill Hoffman | Amen. |
| 01:05:53.81 | Melissa Blaustein | Mary Ann Arborino- I've got a couple comments before we. So some of them do have to make recommendations. Sure, so first of all, huge thank you to both of you |
| 01:05:56.91 | Unknown | I'm going to... |
| 01:05:57.78 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:05:57.98 | Unknown | Yeah, go ahead. |
| 01:06:03.28 | Melissa Blaustein | and the Vice Mayor for your work on this and to the task force. So thank you so much. Such an important topic. I had a couple of different comments. I had, you know, I think been asking at a lot of different future agenda items to have this come to us earlier in the process. I think that would have been really helpful for the public and for the council to kind of get on board with the goals and objectives and to kind of help shape and also hearing about all of the amazing speakers that you had, I think it would have been a great opportunity for your public education component to open those up to the bubble. So, you know, hopefully we can move forward in a more kind of daylight day lit way as we kind of march on to the next items. Um, Second, I did just want to echo some of the public comments about the hand in hand nature of sea level rise and greenhouse gas emissions. And I know when we heard this item in 2020, we had two complementary items we have the county present on sea level rise and then we have our sustainability commission present on our low emission action plan. And I do think that those, you know, the two sides of the same coin in a sense, addressing our low emission action plan and reducing our contribution to greenhouse gas emissions and addressing sea level rise. I would just, I think those couple of members of the public commented on that and to kind of keep those um, those goals, top of mind. Second, I'll just echo what a few people said about the regional approach. I think we have the best chance of doing the most and accomplishing the most before continuing to partner with our close neighbors and have you know, both the ability of getting grants and achieving the biggest gains. And I know you have been working with county partners and appreciate all of that. I hope that can continue as we move forward. I think my last point goes to the recommendations that the mayor was just beginning to discuss. We did a lot of great work. The GPAC did a lot of great work. The sustainability did Commission did a lot of great work and the city did a lot of great work and adopting a general plan last year that really highlighted and was permeated by sustainability principles, including addressing sea level rise. And at the end of the economic element of the general plan is the general plan implementation. plan. And so in that plan, there are a whole series of things that we've already costed and prioritized that. |
| 01:08:51.62 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:08:57.70 | Melissa Blaustein | mirror a lot of the recommendations, including a marine ship infrastructure, needs assessment that includes a sea level rise adaptation, component in an engineering study, to Councilmember Sobieski's point, Highway 101. flood mitigation program in cooperation with Marin City and the county also referenced in this uh, sea level rise reports, subsidence data, circulation resilience, you know, which I think was highlighted at the very beginning of the report in terms of keeping our transportation facilities Oh. And then of course, the sea level rise adaptation plan, which was one of the things. So I think what I would love to see when we look at these recommendations is that we take, I think, almost most of the recommendations that are coming forward are already encompass, maybe in a more general way, in our prior existing either a general plan or a strategic plan. And so I would love to see them sunk up. so that we cannot add to this pile of priorities, see which ones already fit within our existing priorities, which ones are completely new. and then kind of adopt it as that, adopt it in a way that lessens the perception that we're adding to staff work. over and above what we've already prioritized. I don't know if that makes 100% sense, but I know |
| 01:10:29.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:10:33.78 | Melissa Blaustein | If we look at that implementation plan and we look at our strategic plans, I think that a lot of the good recommendations in this report can be fit within those and the ones that can't then we should add separately. Thank you. So those are my recommendations. And with that, I think if we could see that a little bit organized in that fashion, and we'd be happy to move the |
| 01:11:02.82 | Janelle Kellman | Mayor, may I just respond to that? Because that's really, really great feedback. Super helpful. Thank you for that, Council Member Thibundals. if the council would allow it, I would love to reconvene the task force to continue to work on that. So we can present some of the overlap and as like councilor Cleveland knows mentioned, she and I both worked on the general plan update. And much of what we performed and accomplished was designed to be in sync with the general plan update. So great ideas. I'd be happy to help with that. And also happy to bring public speakers if folks are interested. So I can talk to the city manager about how we maybe make those community events great contacts. So I love that idea as well. And then the regional approach, I've already been talking to Stephanie Moulton-Peters about that because Bay Adapt does talk about in nine community regional approach, and so she already has flagged that. So just really fantastic feedback, and I just want to thank you for that. |
| 01:12:00.35 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, and I just, let me just add to, You know, when we were going through this process, when we were talking to people in our task force, it wasn't like they were presenting. The speaker was presenting. communicating with them the ideas that we had and gathering information from them so it wasn't It wasn't something that I think was a sort of presentation by somebody. It was, this is what we're doing and what's your feedback as a professional in this area. the you know the point of the task force was to gather you know tremendous amount of information to sort of validate the things that were already in the general plan update and incorporate them with facts and figures and science and so i think that was wasn't meant to be duplicative it was meant to um you know uh add to and give more evidence for why those things are priorities in our city. So it was, they're complimentary. I don't think they're competing at all. It was meant to be a complimentary process. I see that Council Member Blaustein, I think had her hand up first and then Council Member Silvieski. So go ahead, Council Member Blaustein. |
| 01:13:06.74 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah, thanks for hopping in. Thank you to the Sea Level Rise Task Force for all of the time that you gave to this really critical and thank you to everyone who gave their time to work on it outside of the task force and show up for meetings. And this is my third time getting to see the presentation because I sit as liaison for the and Disaster Preparedness Commission, and it still has not gotten old. I'm exploring every moment of soaking up the great recommendations from the task force, and I really appreciate the time. I just really want to give space to and echo some of the comments we heard from the public around mitigation as well as adaptation. Coming out of COP26, where most of the wealthy nations came forward and said the most critical thing we can do is mitigate, while there was not enough focus on adaptation, it's a little bit interesting to see so much focus on adaptation in our backyard and less thinking about the big picture. And I know that that's because it's what's coming at us right now, but we have to think about the real crisis of climate change as a holistic issue. And I really appreciated Jenny Silva's comments about how one of the best things we can do to mitigate emissions is to provide workforce housing. And so we should be thinking about this from an adaptation and resiliency approach. How can we continue to create opportunities for new infrastructure and housing in a climate-friendly way? And what can we learn to be able to do that. And I think this report could really be the beginning of that and those really critical conversations of thinking about how we really do that. I would definitely be in support of Council Member Cleveland-Knowles and Vice Mayor Kellman's suggestions of working on |
| 01:14:24.75 | Unknown | LEARNING. |
| 01:14:38.40 | Melissa Blaustein | We spent much time on the general plan, making sure that the sustainability element was included. There's a lot of great material there that both addresses the mitigation issues, which have rightfully been brought up by members of the public and members of the council, and adaptations. It's really interesting. I also would really encourage you guys to consider including Galilee Harbor in your conversations as you reconvene, given that they have a great pilot project that we're working on, and some of their communities showed up tonight to offer that. And it would be wonderful if we could extend a seat at the table to them in some capacity. And if the task force continues, I'd also really like to see representative from the Disaster Preparedness Committee participating given the |
| 01:15:02.05 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:15:18.75 | Melissa Blaustein | urgency and the fact that there could be a lot of emergency response that relates to this. I definitely think it's a regional issue and we all need to be thinking about it in the context of the larger picture of the climate emergency that we are facing. What steps can we take as a community and also how can we adapt but also make way for new resilient opportunities to create infrastructure and housing for our community as we look on our housing crisis and what really needs to be done. So thanks again. Really great report and would appreciate and follow Council Member Cleveland Knowles and Vice Mayor Kelman's recommendation. |
| 01:15:55.02 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. Go ahead, Council Member Sobieski. |
| 01:15:57.97 | Ian Sobieski | Oh yeah, I just wanted to fill out my comment about probabilities just to... have that dialogue be part of it if this was the that you know, alarm me, if I can share this. You know, it's just the shape of the wave that's going to crash on us. is implied, of course, if we have seven feet of sea level rise, And as the Vice Mayor correctly points out here in the in the fine print of In footnote eight, it talks about this being a range, but in the really small print, it notes that this is a range of scenarios 66% likely to one in 200 So less than one half of 1%. But when we go all the way down to the beautiful map that Cass put together, know the really scary uh fringe line is something more like five feet of sea level rice or four feet with storm surge, and I think it kind of makes a difference to the reader. about where that emphasis comes from. Let's see how I can structure my screen now. |
| 01:16:59.46 | Ian Sobieski | There we go, stop sharing. And so I just went to the California THE END OF data on this, and this is the chart that just shows that range of sea level rise in 2100 with no emissions. This is a high emissions scenario you know, the four foot sea level rises 8%, five foot and higher is, you know, really small. So we're talking about a very small percentage. And is not to diminish the the theme here of being very thoughtful in making our correct planning but when |
| 01:17:27.25 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:17:32.98 | Ian Sobieski | reports like this to have images like that without attaching probabilities to the different inundation maps. and maybe avoiding the the curly queue of the wave crashing on top of us and trying to stick with just the data would keep things in the dialogue strictly focused on the numbers. And so that would just be my feedback about how to make sure we had this dialogue on a strictly fact-based basis with all the uncertainties that we have in life. Thank you. two cents. |
| 01:18:03.97 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. Okay, so thanks to the, obviously, thanks to the vice mayor and the members of the task force for putting together a tremendous amount of hard work in the past nine months and getting us this report. And with the mapping and bringing together the experts that we had in our community and beyond. So super important for us. So I think what I'm hearing is Um, that the vice mayor is going to take this back and sync up our recommendations with what's already in the general plan and other in our prioritization. and then come back to us? Or do we just want to say, you know, just want to say we accept these recommendations you know, work with the staff to see where there's overlap and move forward on those that we're in agreement with. Do we want, which any? that process and what. |
| 01:18:57.59 | Melissa Blaustein | May I have to have it back? Sorry, Janelle, go ahead. |
| 01:19:03.05 | Janelle Kellman | No, no, no, it's quite right. I just want to, to distinguish there are a handful of recommendations, or actually many of them, that are more granular than what we have seen in both the general plan and in the implementation from the strategic plan. But the most important thing here is to finalize the vulnerability assessment. whether the recommendations are contained in document or general plan or in strategic plan. If we don't fully develop and close the data gaps for our vulnerabilities, it won't matter. So I just want to call that to everyone's attention. And there are certain things that we need for funding reasons. So the local hazard mitigation plan is something we need to have in place, I believe, by next year in order to qualify for funding. The debate between mitigation and adaptation is one that we're seeing throughout funding opportunities. those who see mitigation is very distinct from adaptation, two very different siloed approaches. They actually, I believe they overlap. Funders mostly don't believe they overlap. And so you're finding coastal resilience and adaptation gets funded or mitigation gets funded. So if you see one or the other, they're not intended to be exclusive, but they are just a reality of how these things are getting funded. So I just wanted to mention that, but I'm happy to you reconvene the task force and at least have everything, you know, part of this process was to bring all this information together. And so if this is a missing piece and it helps other council members fully understand what we have at our fingertips, I'm happy to do that. |
| 01:20:33.89 | Jill Hoffman | Do we want to not, I don't see any reason not to move forward with the vulnerability assessment though. That doesn't seem to be in any, you know, in any way contrary to anything, any other efforts. Is there any reason why- |
| 01:20:44.64 | Melissa Blaustein | Do we have a dollar figure of what we think that's going to |
| 01:20:49.67 | Janelle Kellman | What do we... Yes, I believe I put that at the end of the conclusion. I believe we said 30 to 50,000. |
| 01:20:51.22 | Melissa Blaustein | Yes, probably. |
| 01:20:56.86 | Janelle Kellman | What we performed was about $100,000 worth of work, and we took it as far as we could based on our experience. And that was informed by speaking to ESA, associates, and other consultants in terms of where it comes down. If you look in the appendix, you'll see options and opportunities for different vulnerability assessments and adaptation pathways. And so we did a big chunk of work, but there are some data gaps, so we need to close those Thank you. |
| 01:21:24.10 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:21:24.11 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:21:24.13 | Jill Hoffman | So... And one of the issues with this is we need to finish the vulnerability assessment here. Some of our grant proposals are going to rely on the vulnerabilities as my yes. |
| 01:21:35.20 | Janelle Kellman | And you'll notice that that's included here, which ducktales with the workshop that we should, |
| 01:21:35.38 | Jill Hoffman | Correct. |
| 01:21:40.94 | Janelle Kellman | pursue the grant. somebody with a grant experience or grant writing experience. And so Maybe it's just voicing that again, since we seem to have agreement on that already. |
| 01:21:50.57 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 01:21:50.84 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. So I think |
| 01:21:51.80 | Jill Hoffman | ... I think the direction would be then to the city manager to put a dollar figure on what it would cost to finish the vulnerability assessment and then bring that back to the city council as soon as possible and then reconvene the task force to sync up our recommendations with other is that direction Is that okay? |
| 01:22:13.34 | Janelle Kellman | It's fine by me. And Chris, city manager, we will support you on that, but I think we have some of that work already. |
| 01:22:21.08 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, is that clear to the staff? or Mr. Manager? Yeah, okay, thank you. Okay, very good. In that case then we are finished with this and we're moving on to our next item on the agenda, which is 5B and that is consider adopting a resolution, directing the preparation of interim guidance rules and regulations to implement SB9 the California Home Act in directing the preparation of an SB9 implementing ordinance and our city attorney Mary Wagner is going to is going to give us a presentation. |
| 01:22:58.60 | Mary Wagner | Thank you, Madam Mayor and members of the council. Mary Wagner, your city attorney, and I'm going to share my screen. |
| 01:23:10.59 | Mary Wagner | It's not good. |
| 01:23:18.64 | Mary Wagner | Okay, can you see that? |
| 01:23:23.05 | Mary Wagner | Yes, yes, we can see. |
| 01:23:23.15 | Lisa Chilino | Yes, we can sit and hear you. |
| 01:23:25.81 | Mary Wagner | Yeah. Good combo. Okay, this presentation, as you indicated, is on SB9, which title is California Housing Opportunity and War Efficiency, or the HOME Act. And it's been codified into California government code sections 65852.2. |
| 01:23:45.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:23:45.62 | Mary Wagner | and 6641.79.5. This was one of the number of bills passed recently. regarding housing. by the state of California. So the Home Act, as we've said, is also called SB 9 or Senate Bill 9. It was signed into law on September 16th. It goes into effect on January 1st, 2022. And basically, its requirements are that cities or local jurisdictions are required to give ministerial approval of two dwelling units on a single parcel within a single family residential zone And the second part of it is ministerial approval of a parcel map. for an urban lot split to parcels from one single family residential parcel. this could result in up to four units where one could be located under existing regulations today. And we'll also talk about what that means with respect to ADUs and JADUs, which could create more than four units. |
| 01:24:49.82 | Jill Hoffman | Just a moment. Sorry, Councilor Blanchard, |
| 01:24:53.02 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 01:24:53.11 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:24:53.12 | Melissa Blaustein | Do you have your hand? |
| 01:24:53.55 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 01:24:53.68 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 01:24:53.80 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:24:53.85 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah, we received some public comment that had questions about the legal terms. I think members of the council are familiar with the ministerial approval, but could you just, for those who might be tuning in and aren't familiar with what that means with regard to what will happen for the ruling units, just give a brief definition, Mary, please? |
| 01:25:11.84 | Mary Wagner | Sure, thank you, Councilmember Blaustein and This actually will come up later, but I'm happy to do it now. So ministerial means it's just done on a staff level, and if the criteria are met, the permits are granted. versus a discretionary approval which is what we're more typically used to in going through you know, a public hearing with, a decision made by the planning commission or in some instances, the city council depending upon what the item is. |
| 01:25:43.89 | Unknown | is. |
| 01:25:45.05 | Mary Wagner | It's really a staff level review to determine if it meets the criteria for approval, and it does, it gets that approval and does not go through a public hearing process. So this item did go to the Legislative Review Committee for input on November 5th. they received a presentation on both SBs 9 and 10 And they asked us to return to staff, to council, excuse me, tonight for consideration and direction regarding SB 9. So Sausalito's existing regulations that would be impacted or will be impacted by this Senate bill are that South Salido has three single family residential zoning districts. the R16, R18, and R120. Accessory dwelling units or ADUs are allowed in all these single family residential zoning districts are as junior accessory dwelling units or JADUs. And with respect to the urban parcel map split, Sausalito's zoning ordinance currently requires planning commission approval of minor subdivisions, which are less than five units. So that would be divisions of land into two, three, or four parcels. And that's following a public hearing. |
| 01:27:02.91 | Mary Wagner | So again, SB9 essentially has two components. The one of developing two units on what is a single family lot and the ability to split a lot into two and then to create two units on that lot. So again, it requires cities to ministerially approve up to two units in existing single-family zones, The city can only apply or can't apply objective standards and there has to be a minimum allowed of 800 square feet per unit and a minimum four foot setback And with respect to the division of one lot into two, Each lot has to be at least 1,200 square feet. And again, ministerial means without discretionary reviewer And because these are ministerial, they're exempt from CEQA. |
| 01:27:53.33 | Mary Wagner | So local agencies are allowed to adopt an ordinance to implement the provisions of SB-9. Our general ordinance process is review and record. by the Planning Commission because this would impact the zoning ordinance. And that would take place at a notice of public hearing A first reading of an ordinance by the city council a second reading of an ordinance by the City Council, and then the ordinance would go into effect 30 days thereafter. There are urgency ordinances that go into effect immediately if certain findings and circumstances exist. And I'll tell you a little bit about what some other Marin County jurisdictions are considering. right now with respect to SB9. |
| 01:28:28.65 | Unknown | Right now. |
| 01:28:33.07 | Mary Wagner | So with respect to the two dwelling units that are allowed pursuant to SB 9 on a single family zoning lot or parcel, You have to be located in an urbanized area It cannot be located on a historically designated property or a property that's in a storage zone. and then not in certain designated other areas, including a very high fire hazard severity zone. that cannot require the demolition of more than 25% of the existing walls. unless an ordinance allows that. and a tenant cannot have occupied the unit in the last three years. |
| 01:29:11.67 | Mary Wagner | So with respect to what the city can and is required to do, so where there's some discretion and where there's some requirements with respect to the two dwelling units, |
| 01:29:14.57 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:29:19.99 | Mary Wagner | The city is required under SB9 to require that the rental unit be for longer than 30 days, meaning that it can't be used as a short term. rental. The city cannot require a setback of more than four feet from side and rear lot lines. The city may impose objective standards unless those standards preclude construction of up to two units. or prevent either unit from being 800 square feet at a minimum. The city is, allowed to permit an ADU or JADU on parcels that use both the authority to split the lot and develop the two units per lot. So if someone took a what is now a single parcel, split it into two and then wanted to put two units on that part on both of those parcels, the city has the discretion to permit an ADU or JADU on those parcels. You can require one off-street parking space per unit, unless the parcel is located within one half mile walking distance of a high quality transit corridor or one half mile walking distance of a major transit stop. or within one block of a car share view. |
| 01:30:34.40 | Mary Wagner | So SB 9 does allow for denial of a project if the building official can make a written finding based on preponderance of the evidence that the proposed housing development would have a specific adverse impact upon the health and safety or the physical environment |
| 01:30:50.00 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:30:51.16 | Mary Wagner | and no feasible method to satisfactorily mitigate or avoid that adverse impact exists. This is similar to language that we've seen in the Housing Accountability Act. |
| 01:31:07.77 | Mary Wagner | With respect to the urban lot split, the city again is required to ministerially approve that without any discretionary review or hearing. a personal map, to split into two parcels. They have to be approximately of equal size. If one of them is smaller, it can't be less than 40% of the law area proposed for the entire division. And again, they have to be at least 1,200 square foot, unless the ordinance authorizes a smaller size. You can only utilize an SB9 process to split the lots once. So if you had a larger lot, you couldn't divide that in two and then divide each of those in two and so on and so on. You can only do it one time. And the parcel owners involved in the split can't have utilized SB 9 to split an adjacent plot. the historically designated property or property in an historic district is also not allowed to be utilized under the provisions of a lot split just like the development of two units on a lot. and the same provisions regarding certain designated areas. apply, including very high fire hazard severity zones. |
| 01:32:20.77 | Mary Wagner | you |
| 01:32:20.85 | Unknown | Oh. |
| 01:32:21.39 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. So with respect to the urban lot split, it has to comply with the objective requirements of the subdivision map act. The city has to require that the uses be limited to residential uses. and that an affidavit be signed by the applicant that they will occupy one of the housing units as their principal residence for a minimum of three years from the date of the approval of the lot split. And the city has the ability to require easements for public services and facilities and to ensure that the parcels can access the public right-of-way The same parking requirements and setbacks apply to the lot split as applied to the development of the two units. The city can't require dedications of rights of way or construction of offsite improvements And then the same findings apply regarding denial of a lot split as did for the development of the two units. So we did bring forward a recommendation, excuse me, a resolution for your consideration tonight. which is directing staff to come back with the preparation of these guidance rules and regulations to implement SB 9. I think it's important to keep in mind that SB 9's requirements apply, regardless of whether the Council directs that we adopt guidance or rules or an ordinance. we will still be bound by the requirements of SB9. There is a little bit of discretion, as I've mentioned, in the areas of minimum development size of the units that are developed. and this question of the ADU and JADU. And with that, I will stop sharing my screen, and I am happy to answer any questions you may have for me. And I should mention, we had a lot of public comment tonight. A lot of letters have been coming in. And I would also like to mention, I apologize that I did not do this prior to said I would stop talking. I did reach out to the other Marin County jurisdictions to see if they had taken any action with respect to SD9. I understand that both Fairfax and San Anselmo are considering adopting urgency ordinances in December and that Mill Valley has adopted objective standards for duplexes that they believe will apply to these SB9 projects. Corte Madera, similar to Mill Valley, is considering objective design ordinance and guidelines actually tonight that would apply to SB 9 projects. And then Council Member Cleveland Knowles had a question that came up at the legislative committee meeting and then she reminded staff about with respect to what the expectations are on the housing element for meeting our arena and how many units we believe could be developed through an SB9 process. and your planning manager did prepare that information, which I'm happy to pull up. and share with the council if you give me a minute. And I would also note that your, I believe your Interim Community Development Director is in this meeting as well and they may have some additional information or be able to answer questions you have for her as well. So real quickly on this Rina question that was asked, I'm just going to read this to you and then we can parse it out if you would like. Roslyn utilized data from the general plan and a study prepared by the Turner Center for Housing Innovation titled Will Allowing Displexes and Lot Splits on Parcel Zoned for Single Family Create New Homes? for the analysis, that's a study I understand is being relied on by a number of jurisdictions, It was prepared through Cal Berkeley. So according to our general plan, there are 5,134 total dwelling units in the city. 30% of those, or 1,746 are single family dwellings. and then the study which I've referenced and which Roslyn referenced. says that the average net new unit for parcel created by SB9 in Marin County is assumed to be 0.2. |
| 01:36:24.80 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:36:27.02 | Mary Wagner | And assuming that ratio is applied to Sausalito, you apply that to the 1,746 single family dwelling units, and it results in an increase of approximately 349 units. There's a lot of other criteria we'd have to look at to get you a more precise number, including the lots that are not allowed to be developed under SB 9 in the criteria, the statute, and we touched about that on that a little bit in my presentation. |
| 01:36:51.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:36:51.86 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. But again, that at least gives you a ballpark idea. There was another question related to the development of ADUs and JADUs with SB9 projects. And unfortunately, we weren't able to pull that information together for the city. |
| 01:37:08.15 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. Um, I have just a sort of foundational question. Is there a deadline that we have to act by? I mean, I saw something in the, in one of the reports, I think the staff report that something about action by December 31st. Can you explain to us what Is there significance at all to that day? |
| 01:37:30.02 | Mary Wagner | Well, the legislation goes into effect January 1st of 2022. So right now, if the city received a project on January 1st, 2022, we would just apply the regulations in SB9 to that project. If the city council wants to have something in place prior to January 1, 2022, |
| 01:37:44.45 | Unknown | Thank you. THE CITY. |
| 01:37:50.22 | Mary Wagner | we would need to be considering really adoption of an urgency ordinance there's nothing that prevents the council from taking action after january 1 2022 to adopt and implementing regulations for the city |
| 01:38:03.79 | Jill Hoffman | I see. Um, Councilmember Sobieski has his hand up. |
| 01:38:08.34 | Ian Sobieski | Yes, thank you, Mayor. Thanks, Mary, for that overview. I know I and I know several people, including me, sent over to you and the legislative committee the ordinance that was passed in Los Angeles. I think that's a good question. and many other communities that maximize local control. consistent with SB nine. That's keeping some objective zoning standards, having a minimum parking requirement requiring residency, having an affordability covenant. paying raised fees, having a safe week adverse impact. statement. Um, How? Why is it that THE PRODUCT THAT'S FORCED TODAY FROM STAFF IS is not that, or not a version of that. |
| 01:38:59.12 | Mary Wagner | So I did, and thank you, Council Member Sobieski. So that resolution that was prepared and circulated and I believe attached to an article in a local |
| 01:39:09.33 | Unknown | and, uh, |
| 01:39:10.88 | Mary Wagner | publication. was prepared by a local citizens group, I understand, in Los Angeles. I do not know if Los Angeles adopted that resolution wholesale. And I don't know if any other jurisdiction has either. I think there are some legally indefensible provisions in that resolution. that I would not recommend that the council adopt. Um, and you know i think there were provisions in there that uh the city would be subject to challenge if they included such provisions because I believe they're in direct contradiction to SB 9. |
| 01:39:46.89 | Ian Sobieski | Okay, but I mean, isn't there some distance between that draft and what we got from the staff report? things that are more defensively, more that you would say are more legally defensible that would improve or increase local control consistent with SB9? |
| 01:40:04.22 | Mary Wagner | I mean, Councilmember Sobieski, I think I'd have to respond to it in this way. We are bound to comply with SB 9. And we can say that setbacks have to be or be, that's what we already said. I think you have areas where you can give some direction, including the size of the unit. but I don't think that the city gains any control over a process that requires you ministerially process a lot split and or the development of two units on that lot So I think it's a bit of a misnomer to imply that by adopting regulations implementing SB 9, you're retaining a great deal of local control. that isn't otherwise available under SB9. |
| 01:40:44.49 | Ian Sobieski | the, |
| 01:40:49.92 | Ian Sobieski | Just one last question in this direction, Mary. I agree in terms of the lot split issue, but things like requiring parking, like having an affordability covenant, those are two examples of things that having some objective zoning standards I think that's a good thing. Those are two or three things that it seems like we could do now and leave maybe more things for later. |
| 01:41:13.75 | Mary Wagner | Sure, so SB9 tells you when you can require parking and how many parking units, how many parking spaces you can require one. unless you're within a certain distance of transit hub or the other three items I mentioned, the three items that are listed in the statute. So the parking I think is pretty defined by ESV. I don't believe SB 9 authorizes imposition of affordability covenants. And your third, I apologize, Council Member Sobieski, I lost the third one. |
| 01:41:44.87 | Ian Sobieski | because some objective zoning standards |
| 01:41:47.43 | Mary Wagner | We definitely can utilize objective zoning standards. So what we would do right now is look at the objective zoning standards that the council identified in your existing zoning ordinance. If you recall, we did that a while back. |
| 01:41:54.05 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:41:54.08 | Ian Sobieski | identify. |
| 01:41:54.38 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 01:41:58.75 | Mary Wagner | while we had worked with the working group of the Planning Commission. and staff to develop more objective zoning standards to bring forward But if there are standards that are consistent with SB9 that we believe, |
| 01:42:12.15 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:42:15.44 | Mary Wagner | could be developed for SB9 projects specifically, this would be an opportunity to develop those standards. |
| 01:42:25.13 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. This is the lineup I'm seeing is the vice mayor and Councilman Cleveland-Knowles and Councilman Blaustein. That's the way it looks on my screen, unless there's an objection. Go forward. Thank you. |
| 01:42:38.24 | Janelle Kellman | with that. |
| 01:42:38.70 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:42:39.24 | Janelle Kellman | line up. Thank you, Mayor Hoffman. Yeah, I want to echo some counselors to ask these questions. And perhaps we're going to need to have a longer conversation about that. Mary, some of that logic you were sharing with us. But I thought at the Legislative Committee, that we had directed at the resolution in clue language |
| 01:42:55.42 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:42:55.44 | Jenny Silva | Um, |
| 01:42:59.93 | Janelle Kellman | that the city of Saucyde intends to enforce its existing objective development standards on all SB9 projects, and that was at 1 hour 34. of the tape. So, you know, we did have this conversation. And so I think that major disconnect for me was |
| 01:43:09.04 | Heidi Scoble | THE BEST. |
| 01:43:15.28 | Janelle Kellman | seeing a version of the resolution that didn't reflect the conversation. So maybe I guess I'm wondering, uh sort of as an example uh the section one uh around affordable flexible housing options you know we we didn't discuss that at all at legislative committee i'm wondering where that came |
| 01:43:37.09 | Mary Wagner | So we just utilized other jurisdictions that we're working with have been developing primarily with respect to their ordinances to try and bring something forward to the council for consideration. We can certainly, I apologize for the oversight on the, objective standards that wasn't intentional and we certainly can add that to the resolution that you have in front of you tonight and or return with a revised for you to consider on December 7th. |
| 01:44:05.18 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, yeah, and I'm just trying to, um, bridge a little bit of the disconnect that and I don't mean to it's went back. I had a button. We'll go back and watch it. And then I guess I sort of to echo council members, so be asking the question, you know, the, um, the community group recommendations was attached to the legislative committee with sort of this idea that it would serve as a template I know that we have probably members of this council and of the community who differ as to how much of it should be at temple for us tonight, But how, what was the thinking in not including more of that language into the resolution presented to us tonight. Because I guess I expected to see much of that included here, but I didn't see really any of it. And so I got kind of lost as to the intention behind the resolution was drafted. |
| 01:44:53.09 | Mary Wagner | Oh, apologies for that, Vice Mayor Hellman. That was not intentional. in hindsight should have included that resolution in your packet. that Los Angeles resolution, so apologies for that. I think we were just trying to bring forward something to you that we thought was the most legally defensible it could be, and this, you know, it's pretty open-ended at the moment, because I think that SB9 does not give you a lot of real wiggle room. You know, there are only a few areas where we could develop that are missing pieces, if you will, in SB 9, or open questions. I think this question of objective planning standards, though, is a good one, or a good point, that we need to look at the objective planning standards we've already identified that would apply to projects under the HAA. and ensure you know which ones would apply to an sp9 project i think that's definitely worked that we can do and um we would we would need to do that regardless of whether the council adopts that by action tonight or not you know as we process a project we've got to apply objective standards to it and we need to look at the ones that have already been identified and apply them then to these projects as well. |
| 01:46:06.33 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, yeah, so and last question, I'm just trying to, I have with the benefit and the the downfall of having heard some of this before legislative. So I'm just Bridging the gap, your staff report mentioned that cities can impose local development standards such as requiring setbacks of up to four feet from side and rear lot lines. um, But then... things like that or that specifically wasn't included in the draft resolution. Um, so are you saying that you wouldn't have included that cause you didn't think that would be legally defensible? |
| 01:46:34.54 | Mary Wagner | You know, SB9 tells you you can only require a four-foot setback from side and rear yards. Period. You can't require, you could require, you could allow a smaller setback, but you can't require a greater setback. So say, your zoning district now requires five feet side yard setbacks. We could only apply a four foot setback to that, this SB9 project. I will, one caveat is if there's an existing building that has a tighter setback, You can't move it to a forefoot setback. You have to allow development within that existing footprint. So the reason it's not there is because there's no discretion there. |
| 01:47:13.07 | Janelle Kellman | That makes sense. And then I guess the follow up there is that the, the proposed template did include some clarifying language that we could have included to retain a bit more local control over that. And so if we see the absence of that language, should we conclude that you didn't feel it was legally defensible? |
| 01:47:30.41 | Mary Wagner | Yeah, I mean, I could give that another hard look, Vice Mayor Kellman, if the council so directed, but I think SB9's pretty clear on what setbacks we can require. |
| 01:47:41.06 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, great, thank you. I appreciate you letting me run through that. I appreciate the questions. |
| 01:47:44.20 | Jill Hoffman | it. you |
| 01:47:45.81 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 01:47:46.41 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:47:46.45 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 01:47:47.51 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, council member, Okay, you guys just flipped. So I think- |
| 01:47:53.03 | Melissa Blaustein | and I just put it down. It's OK, thank you. Yeah, so I would just I would just add that my memory of our legislative committee recommendations sort of at the end of the day, that both the vice mayor and I agreed on. was that we would either adopt something that said that we would apply objective design standards to SB9 projects, so we would recommend that staff come forward. with an ordinance to that effect. And then I guess just for context, and I think our city attorney has already said this, I did ask about some of the other items in the Los Angeles resolution and I think were satisfied that most of the items were already addressed. by SB 9. Either they take away discretion, or they already use the term may, such as we may require parking um, et cetera, so that those items and I think the staff report, staff report, the setbacks were already Um, allowed to do and can do. the parking requirements. We can apply unless it's the Dynatransit area, etc. I guess my only question for the city attorney was, slides. I can't remember what it was. It's hard. I didn't know how I have numbers, but I think it was seven and eight. You talked about areas where SB9 would not apply, but it wasn't clear if any of those areas are located here and So for example, are we in a high fire Are there areas of town in a high fire hazard zone? residential R1 in a historic distress. them. And are there areas of town that are within I can't remember, quarter mile of a high frequency transit corridor. |
| 01:50:00.53 | Mary Wagner | Thank you, Councilmember Cleveland Knowles. Those are questions I need help with from other staff members, maybe your community development director, and with respect to the high fire hazard severity zone, I'd have to talk with the fire chief from Southern Marin. I don't know those answers for you tonight. With respect to whether we have any single family zoning districts in our historic district. Again, I would need some assistance from the community development director. I would also note, you know, it applies to any property that's individually designated as historic. So I know we do have likely have one or two of those, but again I would need some assistance from your community development director. |
| 01:50:46.94 | Jill Hoffman | And I see our interim community development director There's a cut. Just turn on our camera. So do you have ready answers to those? our interim director or Ms. Goble or do we need put down your to-do list. Yeah. |
| 01:51:00.27 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 01:51:00.31 | Jill Hoffman | Hercule. |
| 01:51:00.91 | Heidi Scoble | we'll need to add it to the to-do list, but I can speak to the historic district. So good evening, Mayor Hoffman, members of the city council. There are no single family zoning districts within the historic district. And we do have a listing of probably about 30 properties that are listed on the state or national register of historic properties. |
| 01:51:25.82 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:51:25.84 | Mary Wagner | you Thank you. |
| 01:51:27.17 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 01:51:27.86 | Mary Wagner | Um, and Madam Mayor if I may Sure. I know when we looked at the ADU regulations, there was an analysis done of Um, how close certain areas were to transit stops. So we could probably dust that off and be able to, to address that for you too. Okay, thank you. |
| 01:51:49.11 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 01:51:49.58 | Timothy Logan | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:51:50.71 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 01:51:50.73 | Jill Hoffman | I'm not sure. |
| 01:51:50.90 | Melissa Blaustein | Um, |
| 01:51:51.19 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 01:51:51.98 | Melissa Blaustein | Member Blasting, go ahead. Sorry, I just wanted to, in responding to a lot of public comment, because we did receive many letters about the LA resolution, It seems based on what you're saying that what's outlined in the resolution, and if I'm wrong, tell me, is all that we are able to do to administer local control with regards to SB 9, and there's nothing outside of that that we could do that would be legally defensible, in your opinion, at this point. |
| 01:52:19.84 | Mary Wagner | I think we can do the objective planning standards so that was an oversight to not include that in this resolution and i apologize for that think we could get some direction from council on if you want to impose a size limit on units and we would need to bring that back to you in the form of an ordinance and then you know if the council wants to to talk about not requiring parking or you know requiring the parking that's allowed to be required under sb9 we could use some input from you on things like that. So there are areas where we can get some council direction on things that you'd like to see us bring forward in implementing ordinance. Yeah, I don't think SB9 gives you a ton of wiggle room. |
| 01:53:08.14 | Melissa Blaustein | And then also in responding again to some other public comment that we got around just the members of the public being able to understand the process and what some of the legal terms are and whether or not, I mean, maybe as part of the housing element, process we might have some sort of open workshop on what SB 9 might mean for our community and what options we have or something along those lines is that something that you would we could consider |
| 01:53:34.54 | Mary Wagner | Sure, and I think that the legislative committee had talked about a kind of broader housing discussion at some point. I don't know when that would be brought forward, but there's been a lot of legislation, obviously, ranging from the Housing Accountability Act and the recent changes to that, the SB 35 that the city is subject to and what that means, and then now SB 9 and SB 10, all in the context of the housing element as it's coming forward. So I think there is a real opportunity |
| 01:53:56.13 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:54:10.02 | Mary Wagner | to have those conversations and talk about where we find ourselves. I understand and I have not been able to plan this myself, but I understand from a colleague of mine that there is something being circulated for signature right now as a ballot initiative to be considered in 2022 related to local control over some of these changes that are have been coming down from the state, particularly with respect to housing. |
| 01:54:35.85 | Melissa Blaustein | And then the other question I had, you kind of brought it up and so did Mayor Hoffman, but if we haven't really had any public processes around the HIEAC, sorry, the Housing Element Advisory Committee at this point, What is the clear impending deadline? And would it make sense to open up for more public conversation around the implementation of SB9 in our labor control or? before December 31st we have to do this. HARD STOCK. |
| 01:54:59.97 | Mary Wagner | you |
| 01:55:00.03 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 01:55:00.74 | Mary Wagner | So again, you don't have to, we're subject to SB9, whether the council takes action, now or later. if the council wants to take an opportunity to provide some direction on some of the areas that do allow for some discretion. |
| 01:55:17.21 | Unknown | SB9. |
| 01:55:18.32 | Mary Wagner | You can do that now or you can do it in 2022. But if a project comes in the door before the council's adopted those regulations, they would not apply. would be subject to SB9. |
| 01:55:32.99 | Melissa Blaustein | Thanks, that was my last question. I appreciate it. Thanks, Mary. Sure. |
| 01:55:36.79 | Jill Hoffman | you |
| 01:55:36.85 | Mary Wagner | You see? |
| 01:55:37.29 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:55:38.12 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 01:55:38.24 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:55:38.71 | Melissa Blaustein | Um, |
| 01:55:39.03 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:55:39.42 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 01:55:39.45 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:55:39.49 | Melissa Blaustein | Um, |
| 01:55:39.98 | Janelle Kellman | Vice Mayor Kellan. Yeah, thank you. Sorry, just getting a little confused here. So I just want to clarify. Council Member Blasin just asked, whether we were limited in adopting the language in the other resolution from LA because items would be legally indefensible My understanding is 70 other jurisdictions I've adopted the language in that resolution. How did they do that? And why can't we do that as well? |
| 01:56:09.09 | Mary Wagner | I'd have to go back and look at what they did. Madam Vice Mayor, I don't have that on my finger text. |
| 01:56:14.57 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. And then my other question, And I could probably find that for you. I think they adopted it verbatim. And then my other question is about the number of units. So somebody at the legislative committee brought up the provision around the maximum of four units and two lots. Um, and, I think what they've pointed out is that without a restriction, pardon me, a single unit could turn into eight units, including ADUs. And I'm just wondering if that's your reading of that as well. |
| 01:56:48.19 | Mary Wagner | Well, yeah, I tried to speak to this during the presentation. So, Right now, in single-family zoning districts. You can also have an ADU and a JADU. JADU is an interior smaller ADU. An ADU can be a number of different things. It can be attached, it can be detached, it has to meet certain regulations. If it meets certain requirements, it's done ministerially, and if it doesn't meet certain requirements, it goes through a discretionary process. What SB9 says is that a local agency shall not be required to permit an ADU or a JADU on parcels that use both the authority to split the lot and to develop each of those parcels into two units. So if you read that narrowly, it would mean you don't have the ability to restrict it on a single family lot that just splits into two units. You would be required to allow ADUs and JADUs in those units. That's what the language of SB9 says is that when somebody utilizes both pieces of it to ministerially approve a lot split and then to develop two units on each of those lots, the council could, to say that they are not allowed to have an ADU or a JADU. |
| 01:58:07.53 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. |
| 01:58:08.61 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:58:09.76 | Mary Wagner | I think it'd probably be super helpful for us to bring forward like a diagram, right? To show you what some of this would look like. And I think that would be helpful. We were pretty crunched with a lot of, you know, not a lot of time between meetings to get this to you for consideration tonight. So I think there is a lot we can do. And I think I could use the help of the community development department. Excuse me to work through some of that for you guys. |
| 01:58:34.19 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, I appreciate that. And I think there's this sort of threshold question of what are we allowed or what is legally defensible? And so I'd love to run that to ground, knowing that there's so many other jurisdictions who have pursued this. both in Southern Marin, looking at it, and just sort of in other parts of California. So I think that would be helpful to understand what we're able to do. the idea of local control. Yes, we are bound by SB9, but, um, If we don't pass something by the end of the year, and we don't have something that maintains local control, then we have to do exactly what SB9 the racks. so there is a time sensitivity to it. |
| 01:59:12.55 | Mary Wagner | Sure, and if I may, Madam Vice Mayor, you mentioned other Southern Marin jurisdictions that have adopted the LA Neighbor Resolution. I asked the various cities that question, what they've done for SB9, and none of them indicated that they adopted that risk issue. |
| 01:59:26.88 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, I'll check on the folks who shared that with me. Maybe they were contemplating it, so thank you. Go ahead, Council Member Sobieski. |
| 01:59:34.56 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:59:34.69 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:59:34.71 | Jill Hoffman | you |
| 01:59:35.21 | Ian Sobieski | So just on the timing, Mary, can we then expect that we're going to get a different draft resolution before the end of the year to pass to cover and more expanded footprint of restrictions consistent with SB9? |
| 01:59:51.08 | Mary Wagner | if that's the council's direction tonight. Sure, and it'd be great to get whatever direction you can give us on that, what you mean by that. |
| 02:00:00.73 | Ian Sobieski | Okay. And then did you actually affirmatively go through the various sections such as the affordability covenant and the applicant residency requirement if we decide those were not legally defensible, or does it still take some work to look at those? For example, looking at what was passed in some of these other jurisdictions and copying what they've done perhaps. I mean, I'm not sure. |
| 02:00:28.02 | Mary Wagner | I mean, I'm happy to go back and look at it again, Councilmember Sobieski. I think there are problematic provisions in the LA resolution. |
| 02:00:37.33 | Ian Sobieski | And then just one question, since I'm not a lawyer here. if we adopt something that is legally problematic, I'm not sure. than the past in good faith. then what happens to that? It's something that could be challenged by an applicant In other words, if we lean in towards being a little more aggressive in our interpretation of what we can do, instead of leaning back and what is the downside of being leaning in and trying to push the boundaries of what we can do. Andres B9. that it validated an entire ordinance? is the particular provision that we might require POTENTIALLY. overturned by an applicant. Are there damages, or is it simply that someone can Sue us for saying that the residency requirement is not compatible and And if they prevail, then they don't have to do their residency application. Require it. |
| 02:01:37.44 | Mary Wagner | So the realm of challenges run from an injunction saying that you can't, apply certain provisions or that you can't take an action in conflict with SB 9 there could be a court order directing the city to implement SB 9. You could be subject to award of attorney's fees and costs potentially. for a plaintiff. With respect to your question about, it's basically a severance question. You know, could we just carve out a provision that was found to be in violation of SB9? We usually draft or always draft severance provisions into our ordinances so that that would be there, that if the court were to find a certain provision in ballot, things. remains in place. would just suggest to the council just for consideration and i appreciate and understand everyone's concerns with respect to SB 9 in particular, because that's what we're talking about tonight. But also with respect to what we've seen coming from the state legislature, you know, ranging or beginning, I believe, with the HAA, the Housing Act Ability Act, the Crisis Act. and moving on through SB 35 and now SB 9. |
| 02:02:49.72 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:02:49.93 | Mary Wagner | Thank you. whether you view those as positive or negative. I think there's a lot of scrutiny on jurisdictions and what they're doing with respect to housing. I think that the city's at the cusp of its housing next RHNA cycle, the housing element that has to be adopted very soon. And on one hand, we wanna give you the tools that you need to be able to develop or have the tools in place to allow for those units to be developed so that we can meet our RHNA. but at the same time hearing the concerns about local control and not wanting to just have some wholesale development in South Toledo. So frankly, for decision makers and policy makers, it's a little bit of a balancing act. |
| 02:03:35.38 | Jill Hoffman | anything. Thank you. So I'm wondering if we also want to have the Planning Commission's input on this when it comes back to us. So it sounds to me like, we have, you know, so think about that. I'm gonna open up public comment on this and then have that be part of our discussion. when we come back for our discussion portion. Assuming no one else has questions for Mary on the hot seat tonight. Okay, no questions for Mary. Okay, gotcha. Okay, so I see three hands up. And so I'll let... I'll let our clerk call the I'm gonna call hands. |
| 02:04:17.85 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, we do have three hands raised and the first person is under- |
| 02:04:21.36 | Jill Hoffman | I think it sounded weird. Okay, hold on just a second. I just saw it now, two more just popped up. So we're at five hands. I'm gonna, unless there's an objection from the rest of the council, I'm gonna reduce public comment on this item to two minutes. based on the number of hands I'm seeing right now and the numbers that letters and public comment that we got on this item so we make sure we hear everybody before midnight so Go ahead. Mr. Clerk, okay, we're gonna reduce public comment to two minutes on this item, and I'll let the clerk call the names. |
| 02:04:50.57 | Heidi Scoble | Our first speaker, it's under Alba, and I believe it's Jeff Chase. Jeff, you've been unmuted and asked to share your video. |
| 02:05:00.53 | Jeffrey Chase | here. |
| 02:05:06.93 | Jeffrey Chase | Hello? |
| 02:05:07.63 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Go ahead, sir, are we gonna see you? |
| 02:05:08.29 | Jeffrey Chase | Sure. I'm not. |
| 02:05:09.66 | Jeffrey Chase | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:05:10.93 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. There you go. We can see you and hear you now. Go ahead, sir. |
| 02:05:11.48 | Jeffrey Chase | There you go. |
| 02:05:12.07 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:05:13.88 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:05:13.93 | Jeffrey Chase | Bye. Uh, Again, I'm admiring Not just the backdrops behind you. But that you... are talking intelligently about an issue. without getting to the roots. of. where zoning comes from. Zoning started. with the automobile industry, and roads. having Three places for cars. where the car is, where it's going, And where it parks when it comes home. So from Camp Cormorant here, where we have built tiny houses, the federal court has mandated you to accept them. They are 96 square feet. We have now taken Dunphy Park as well as here at Marin Ships. We aim to solve this housing program from the roots up. Without the zoning, without the automobiles, without the carbon output. We are doing it. We asked for a permit, it was refused to build the house. That decision was forced on you. Now there is black sludge coming from this leech field behind a restroom. I'm going to assume that none of you knew about that difficulty before you decided on this site. You now do. This site is not tenable. We are starting housing for the people who have connections and very long connections with Marin, Housing for all from the bottom up. Thank you. |
| 02:07:10.84 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:07:11.09 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. |
| 02:07:13.59 | Heidi Scoble | Our next speaker is David Sudo. And David, you've been unmuted and asked to share your video. |
| 02:07:24.24 | David Sudo | Good evening, City Council. I'd like to start out with trying to amplify Lisa Bennett's letter. I thought that was a really well written letter. THE END OF THE END OF THE I'm guessing City Council had a chance to read it. I had another series of questions and comments. First of all, I think in this report, a map would have been really helpful to show how the different SB9 elements affect Sausalito. one that would point out where R1 zoning is, which is the only areas that's affected by SB9. Also where the very high fire zones are, which my understanding is the Northern Sausalito R1 zone is also a very high fire zone. And then also, whether our ferry landing qualifies as a major transit stop under SB9 and how that affects our parking regulations for SB9. Um, I think, you know, in the analysis, I heard how many single family homes we have, but many of our single family homes are not in the R1 zone. |
| 02:08:33.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:08:34.18 | David Sudo | Um, Thank you. and I would, I hope that if any interim measure we have would sunset when our housing element is adopted and that our housing element would take into account for SB9 and how we want to account for our RHNA numbers. I'm not sure. Also, I suspect that a lot of our R1 housing will not be affected by SB 9 either due to the rental constraints of SB 9 the 25% demo rule and then also other lot restrictions as far as geometry. Um, A couple more questions I had was, Would changing our R1 zoning to R2, would that be more or less constraining than SB9? And would things like our objective elements like height and FAR in some cases be ruled unenforceable for SB9 lot splits? and construction. Thank you. |
| 02:09:47.49 | Heidi Scoble | Thank you. |
| 02:09:48.70 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:09:50.71 | Heidi Scoble | Our next speaker is Peter Van Meter. Peter, you've been unmuted and asked to share your video. |
| 02:10:04.52 | Peter Van Meter | Thank you. I think there's going to be support in Sausalito for affordable housing. and added diversity and inclusion and so on. but clearly shoving multi-family units and high density into our residential areas is not it. But our hands seem to be tight, as we've heard in all the presentation discussions so far. And we can draft an ordinance that gives us the maximum control that's allowable under SB 9. But, That's going to be forced upon us. It's not something where we have community support. I think it's clear from comments made by the members tonight. in the public. that they're It's not a support. SB 9. So my concern is the first statement in your proposed resolution I know you may be coming back with another one, but I should not include that in the future. where it implies that we somehow support the concept of SB&I. So I'm gonna read you an alternative suggestion or That's section one. The city of Sausalito finds and declares that the urban housing development authorized under are incompatible with its historic residential neighborhoods. AND I WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT recently adopted General Plan 2040. resulting in significant damage to properties adjoining SB-9 developments. their property values, and the quality of life in our community. and SB9 regulations. will be implemented only over these objections pursuant to the pleased power of the state. That's the only reason we're being forced to do this. So let's draft the strongest ordinance we can. around those rules. But let's put that statement in our ordinance that reflects reality. Thank you. |
| 02:11:55.11 | Heidi Scoble | Our next speaker, it's Seville Goutelier. Seville, you've been unmuted and has to share your video. |
| 02:12:08.33 | Unknown | Picking up with the last thing Peter said, I think we have to look at reality. And what is this, we have to accept SB9. There is absolutely no choice there. And I think we're kind of looking at this the wrong way around. because first of all, there aren't that many lots large enough in South Salido and that aren't on very vertical slopes that will be able to take part in this opportunity. but really this is giving the community an opportunity to help the city come up with sites for housing that we must meet according to our RENA numbers, So giving very little space that we have for new siting opportunities for housing in our city limits. This is a great opportunity that we should be looking at, I think, a little more positively. Already we're allowing three units in a single family unit by allowing an ADU and a JADU. So already we're allowing that density of three different units per parcel Now, if we're talking about... split. We're only allowing them to make the one more unit, which would be the separate building. Then you're talking about just adding one more than we're already providing of opportunities, development opportunities for our homeowners here. So I think we're actually, you know, trying to, you know, make sour lemon out of lemonade, because it's an opportunity. If we look at what our standard, our objective standards are, maybe strengthening them a little bit in some ways that are legal, I think that we're looking at a great opportunity for fulfilling RHNA without some of the pain and suffering that we were expecting we might have to go through to identify 725 unit sites in our very small community. So I just want to offer that as another way of looking at it. And and also recognizing that we will have to comply with it, so we might as well make it as good, have as good a positive outcome from it, you know, an attitude towards it that we can. |
| 02:14:33.74 | Heidi Scoble | Well, your three minutes have elapsed. Thank you. |
| 02:14:35.90 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:14:39.32 | Heidi Scoble | Our next speaker is Jenny. Silva, you've been unmuted and asked to share your video. |
| 02:14:48.20 | Jenny Silva | Hi. I couldn't agree more with Sybil that we ought to be looking at this as an opportunity, not a problem. We do need to add quite a bit of housing in this ring around and this is one tool that we can do to do it. But I wanted to talk about a couple Additional items to first, I think we need to be realistic and what SB nine is. |
| 02:15:13.38 | Jenny Silva | It's not gonna result in runaway development, And I strongly disagree that this will have a negative impact on our quality of life. This is going to be at most the addition of an incremental number of units. units that we badly, badly need. this is not going to have a dramatic impact on the density of our town. The number 349 is an absolute top number. It requires owners to divide their lots. And I don't think most owners are gonna wanna split their lots in two. So, I think there's a lot of noise being made over something that That's not. that big. Secondly, I just want to state that I am really severely disappointed in hearing the Council contemplate adopting resolutions which would be likely illegal. um, I think it shows us undermining the law that was passed with support of California voters to write resolutions that we have good reason to be leave would not be compliant AND IT COULD BE Oh. cost the Sausalito taxpayers quite a bit of money. I don't think our city should be paying to defend ourselves against illegal resolutions and I don't think that we should be spending time or energy trying to prevent modest housing that SB 9 will provide. Thank you. |
| 02:16:46.82 | Heidi Scoble | Our next speaker is Kristen. Kristen, you've been unmuted and asked to share your video. |
| 02:16:53.82 | Kristen Walzicle | Hello, good evening, Kristin Walzicle. I'm a previous member of the Sustainability Commission. And I'm chiming in tonight because I'm very interested in getting an analysis of the actual number of lots in Sausalito that could potentially be split under SB9. And I know there's been some discussion that we potentially have up to eight units, on a lot if you include adus but i want to know how realistically likely is this um and so to that end i have been planning to bring your attention to the turner center report but i was thrilled to hear mary wagner mentioning that earlier and i also want to thank staff member rosalind thompson for doing some analysis on that um so this is a study out of uc berkeley um and they've conducted the most detailed analysis yet on the potential effect of sb9 And they found that the vast majority of single family parcels across the state would not see any new development. And this is because of the way unit development would pencil out. It's simply not financially practical for most homeowners and to the requirement that the property owner live on the lot for three years makes it highly unlikely that developers will be involved. It found that only 5.4% of the state's 7 million single family lots would get split. And they looked at construction costs, land values, market rents, home prices. This was a financial feasibility study. And if we do a little math and extrapolate those numbers to Sausalito, we could accurately predict that 94 of Sausalito's 1746 single family lots would be split. 94 lots, probably less if you only include the R1 zones. That's what we're talking about here. So I really want to emphasize that I feel the magnitude of the response against SB nine is not in alignment with the potential impact of the bill. I'm disappointed to see so much time and resources being invested in this resolution. It sends a message that Sausalito is not willing to do its work to help South Estates housing crisis. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:19:01.65 | Heidi Scoble | Our next speaker is Eva. Eva, you've been unmuted and asked to share your video. |
| 02:19:15.40 | Jill Hoffman | We're not hearing you. |
| 02:19:18.08 | Unknown | Thanks. Can you hear? Thanks so much. Yeah, I have to agree with the last speaker about the impact in the studies and the disproportionate response. |
| 02:19:18.10 | Jill Hoffman | Thanks. |
| 02:19:26.98 | Unknown | And I, I, you know, I mean, I'm the kind of person who probably like a YIMBY approach might have seemed appealing at one point and I probably would have been much more receptive to SB9. But I think what we're seeing is that a lot of this new construction that's been going up hasn't actually been affordable to displaced workers anyway. So it's really, I think, for working class people, a lot of these Oh, that is big. fill packages really aren't going to have much effect whatsoever. And I do worry that in the end, they'll just be benefiting, um, offshore investment. You know, developers and people who, you know, people who don't need the help as much. And that's, that's unfortunate. Um, and i just wish we could think of uh think this in terms of uh more sustainability but It's also somewhat ironic that, you know, there's this incredible push, again, the same people who are also people who are living, who are taking up very little space, in the entire scheme of the county. We're talking about people who are either anchor outs or after they had their boats crushed by Curtis Havel. And I think you guys should look into taking some legal action against RBRA and Curtis Havel for for leaving you with the problem of the encampment after you crushed over 100 boats. You know, these are people who really take up, have not only a small carbon footprint, but just have a small footprint in general. And it's like the people in opposition to SB9 also don't want to acknowledge that you know, these people really aren't that big a problem. So it's a little dismaying overall. But yeah, SB9 won't make that much of a difference and the people crying about it. It's kind of confusing. And your three minutes had elapsed. |
| 02:21:38.97 | Heidi Scoble | Eva, your three minutes had a lap. |
| 02:21:41.89 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:21:44.25 | Heidi Scoble | Our next speaker is Sandra Bushmaker. You've been asked to be unmuted now. |
| 02:21:50.74 | Sandra Bushmaker | Good evening. I know this is a very controversial subject, And I don't think any of the actions that we've been discussing tonight that the council take in any way states that South South Carolina doesn't want to do its fair share for the housing. providing housing. There is something that I would like to say that there seems to be a dispute about whether or not SB9 applies to high fire districts. And I do believe it does. unless there can be some findings. I don't have the technicalities of that provision right now. but I don't think high fire areas are excluded by SB9. Ah. Secondly, I think our discussion, actually thirdly and fourthly, section one, I just want to say, I agree with Peter Van Meter is not really an accurate statement. of the and the council, I hope. And I hope that can be written to reflect reality. And then lastly, I think the discussion tonight begs the question, And I realize we don't have a definitive answer, but does SB9, provide. Bye. mechanism in order to deal with our arena numbers. In other words, if the, if we allowed lot splits as SB nine requires in our one, and the R one areas, uh, are those numbers, is that potential? to be counted toward our RENA numbers. And I don't know that there's a definitive answer on that, but I think it's worth some exploration Thank you. That's it. Okay, thank you. |
| 02:23:35.11 | Heidi Scoble | Our next speaker is Vicki, Vicki Nichols. You've been asked to be unmuted and share your video. |
| 02:23:42.45 | Vicki Nichols | Hi there, boy, an interesting discussion. I think that from the last several speakers, we have some questions that are on everybody's mind. This is a very concerning topic. AND I THINK IT'S A LOT OF I REALLY LIKED KRISTIN'S I'm not sure. information on the Turner Report. But I think what's being, unless I'm completely not understanding what's being asked of the council tonight, which was something that the Planning Commission and even HPC looked at. Um, We're just adopting those standards that we currently have on the books that are objective. It sounds like we still have potential after this deadline to meaning the end of the year to work more on objective standards, some of which have been identified by the working group, the planning commission, and another, I don't know what the other entity is, as well as the template that the county's been working on for several years. I would rather as a citizen in Sausalito have been proactive about adopting something that we have on the books rather than doing nothing and letting it just roll to SB9. The reality is, SP9 is going to be the law of the land. The state law supersedes this. So let's work in ways where we can be creative, where we can have the control. There are options, and I would encourage the council to adopt this tonight and continue working on this as we move forward through the housing element thank you |
| 02:25:18.77 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. I don't see any further hands up. Do you can confirm that please, Mr. Clerk? |
| 02:25:25.39 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, you are correct. We have no other hands raised. |
| 02:25:29.06 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. Okay, so closing public comment then and moving us back to our council discussion. I think what I'm hearing maybe from the discussion is that we need to do some more work on the resolution. I think there were some issues that the vice mayor talked about that were inadvertently left out and some language that needs to be further addressed. further edited based on the comments that I've heard from the council members tonight. That sounds like maybe the direction that we're taking. I don't know. Legislative council committee, please join in. I see council member Cleveland Knowles' hand. |
| 02:26:14.61 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah, thank you, Mayor. I think there was some really great comments made for the public tonight and in writing, so I wanna thank everybody for that. I am in favor of the resolution that's in front of us tonight with the addition that we urge or that we establish that we intend to. apply our objective design guidelines to SB 9. projects. So I think at a minimum, that's something that we should do. My other concerns are, I mean, the other issues that are in the coordinates I think are adequately dealt with and we have discretion generally under FB9. |
| 02:26:54.37 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:26:55.99 | Melissa Blaustein | So, you know, I think there were some questions that would be good to have answered. And if there's other actions that we want to consider later, I think we could do that. I just would like to emphasize that we need every tool in our toolbox to reach our arena and that we are going to need to have a multi-pronged |
| 02:27:12.74 | Unknown | I'm not sure. |
| 02:27:16.78 | Melissa Blaustein | approach to not have an outsized impact on our towns. So we SB9, while I understand a lot of people Amen. do not like it and are not in favor of it, it is a tool. And it's a tool that we have now, whether we wanted it or not. It's also one of the potentially slower and more gradual approaches. to adding housing to South Aledo than a lot of other tools in our toolbox. I see it as very much like the ADU tool that it will be a gradual thing that will not, you know, I think a lot of speakers spoke to this and the Turner Report also seems to confirm this, that it's not gonna be a tool that will become a house of fire and radically change. our town overnight. The ergonomics aren't there. and uh you know, the incentives. I like a lot of the comments that were made by Senator McGuire and others during its adoption, that it's a chance to expand intergenerational wealth, that it's a chance to create more workforce housing in town. And so I do think it's really important in our housing element process that we start to understand the impact of SB9 Um, in a more granular level on Sausalito. So I'm hoping, I was expecting when I asked the question, at the legislative committee about the impact of SB9 on Sausalito that our housing consultants would be able to at least give us an estimate about how that might play out here. So I think David Sudo asked a number of good questions, and Kristen Wolflegel as well about kind of taking that data from maternal reports or the analytical framework and applying it here and seeing how many you know, how single family homes do we have? RH1 neighborhoods. And then when we know more about that, we can evaluate as part of our housing element process Bye. do we want to augment this tool or do we want to try to limit it? and And I think we may have, I think our city attorney has said we have very few tools |
| 02:29:41.33 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 02:29:41.34 | Unknown | I don't know. |
| 02:29:41.65 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:29:46.58 | Melissa Blaustein | to limit it, but we may have some. So I think we could continue to look into what those might be. But before we do that, I think it would be helpful to understand how this stacks up, how this tool stacks up to the other tools that we have. Thank you. |
| 02:30:00.02 | Unknown | Amen. |
| 02:30:00.55 | Melissa Blaustein | um, not just look at it in my selection. So I think those are my main comments. I'd be in favor of passing the resolution tonight with the objective, design standards. Thank you. as a start to this competition. |
| 02:30:17.84 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. I see the vice mayor next and then council member Blassey. Thank you. |
| 02:30:24.44 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you, Mayor Hoffman. Yeah, I just want to echo Council Member Cleveland Knowles. I'm exceedingly grateful to all the members of the public that took the time. to write in, to express themselves, to attend this meeting and provide public comment. It was a true sort of democracy and work to really hear from our constituents and to understand their concerns and where we might be able to represent their interests best. One thing I think is getting a little confused here is I, Nothing we do tonight will remove espionage. We will be bound by SB 9. So that's, let's just level set on that. The idea is that we retain local control. And so all of the tool sets available remain. We just get decision making authority and process. based on our local interest and expertise. really important. I know there's been some conversation around affordable housing and I wish this bill could in fact guarantee affordable housing. What it does is it creates housing stock. it doesn't mandate that that housing is in fact affordable. of a red herring, I think, as we review this. I was in favor of the legislative committee, I'm in favor now of including some of the language or of the clarifying language we saw in the LA resolution. Um, But if we don't have support for that, I would look at a compromise, which would be, to remove the language in paragraph one, which I don't think is necessary at this juncture. I would add deadlines in paragraphs two and three. And then I would add the language that Councilmember Pelligone-Nolls just suggested. about the development should the design standards. I would actually use the phrase development standards but include that language regarding enforcing our existing development standards on proposed SB9 projects. So that's sort of where I'm coming from on it. I would prefer to follow the lead, 70 other jurisdictions have pursued it. I haven't heard tonight that it is I think that's a good question. So I prefer to move in that direction. But if we don't have three votes for that, then I offer up that compromise solution. So thank you. |
| 02:32:51.12 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. Councilmember Blaustein. |
| 02:32:54.40 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah, I also really appreciate the public comment and engagement, and I agree it was a really interesting discussion. There's a lot of things to consider as it relates to SB 9, but also Thank you. We can't ignore that there are more than 700 units required of us in our RENA numbers, and we are going to need, as Councilmember Cleveland knows rightfully said, every tool in our toolbox. But I'm frankly, and I mean this is no secret to any of you, but I'm quite excited about opportunities for housing in our community, especially affordable housing and workforce housing, because I think we are all aware of the implications of some of the more exclusionary zoning practices that we as a community have to come to terms with that we've been responsible for, for, |
| 02:33:07.14 | Unknown | you know, |
| 02:33:08.45 | Unknown | there are more than |
| 02:33:42.81 | Melissa Blaustein | decades previously, and I think it's really great that that's coming to light, conversations around histories you know, requirements for purchases in our community and otherwise that we're finally coming forward and talking about covenants. And I think that whatever housing stock we can make available is part of that conversation as it relates to intergenerational wealth and creating opportunities for folks of the next generation who didn't have that opportunity to buy a home previously. That's something we consider. |
| 02:34:08.04 | Unknown | and then we can |
| 02:34:09.40 | Melissa Blaustein | I would be in favor of adopting the resolution with an addition of objective design guidelines. And I also want to just say I really appreciated the note that we got from Lisa Bennett about the need for community engagement and conversation around housing, because based on the comments that we've received, it's really clear that this is an issue that everyone in our community cares deeply about. And I think that we should be very open to having as many transparent and robust discussions as possible around this. Um, In with regards to moving the first paragraph, I mean, I'm open to seeing what other council members would say I don't necessarily want to replace the language of not for the language is necessary, but Anyway, I'm I like it when we come to consensus, as we all as we all know so. |
| 02:34:59.07 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, Council Member Sobieski. |
| 02:35:00.60 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 02:35:01.08 | Ian Sobieski | I swear, so I would also be in favor of getting rid of the first paragraph and I'm actually in favor adopting Peter Van Meter's language verbatim for the first paragraph. It's the reality that this is a, measure passed by the state of California. that we are compelled to comply with and and we'll do our duty to do so. I'm not sure. part of why the city of California felt compelled to do this is because of the challenge of our housing crisis so Being in favor of a strong resolution that includes many of the features in the Los Angeles draft, isn't to say one's opposed to housing. So I would side with Vice Mayor Kellman AND I THINK THAT'S A be happy to vote today if there is sufficient support to include whatever elements that we can get sufficient support. before. from the draft resolution. uh, to my mind. That doesn't take any tools out of the toolkit. we do have a big challenge. finding more than 700 of coming up with a plan to develop more than 700 units in this town. And the challenge isn't one of just cramming housing into different spots. The challenge is we want to do that while preserving two things. We want to preserve our small-town character end. ensure that we have town that functions circulation wise, traffic, interconnectivity. That's a design challenge. It's It's solvable. I think it's actually doable. but it's not doable. by this kind of abstract approach, it requires actual design. And I know that this is gonna be a challenge for our community, coming months and years. And we have a housing element effort. I'm not sure. When we passed that effort, articulated it, I think, that we need to add to that process a strong emphasis on design and maybe put money behind it. to actually come up with designs that actually work. Brian Albert in his public comment has said that this SB9 is a warning shot that to municipalities across the state. about adopting realistic housing elements that lead to the creation of actual new housing. especially affordable housing. And I think he's right. So if we're going to, do the housing element as a legal exercise to meet our minimum obligations while actually doing so without action without. any housing being built. then we haven't accomplished the spirit of what this is all about. Uh, And I wanna say again, that the constraint on housing ought to be preserving our small town character and making it actually work for the town to be a win win-win. That's, to underline the whole idea of local control. So I'm all in favor of as much discretion locally as possible. And I'd look for that today. But then I would charge us all to use that description wisely to actually accomplish something amazing. for our town. and be a model for our neighbors in neighboring communities about how to meet the RENA numbers responsibly. |
| 02:38:21.35 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, so, I fall out on the side of removing the first paragraph and actually I like and I think that's a good question. I think the key is, I can't, I think it was the Vice Mayor, I can't remember who said it, but maybe, I think it was one of our public, actually public comment people. is that the the key is affordability um not just not just more units not just market rate units so at least that that's our policy that's a policy that we passed as a city council last spring and as a policy preference for 100 affordable um Uh, projects. So I'm, I'm wondering, and I, you know, I'm interested in the draft resolution items from the what we're referring to is the Los Angeles, I think, draft. I'm concerned about the legal aspects of it. So I'm wondering if what we should do is, I don't necessarily want to wordsmith it up here from the dais at 940 at night. Thank you. So I'm wondering if it should go back to staff following these recommendations or if you know, for, you know, for edits to the draft resolution that would come back to us then, maybe at the December or December 7th meeting. The other question I had was whether or not we wanted to have the planning commission take a look at it. in conjunction with the work that they're doing on their design review standards. I noted on their schedule they have a December 1st meeting, so maybe we could get on there and then it would come back to us at December 7th, having run through that as well. So that might be helpful. And I see Councilmember Sobbi has his hand up. with some |
| 02:40:24.55 | Ian Sobieski | Just wondering if we couldn't pass something tonight, maybe with the addition of the Van Meter paragraph. |
| 02:40:25.70 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:40:31.17 | Ian Sobieski | AND THE OBJECTIVE standards and still ask, for something to come back on the December 7th meeting experience on. the list of asks. |
| 02:40:42.00 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, let's talk about that, I guess. So the vice mayor had her hand up first and then council member Cleveland Knowles. Yes. |
| 02:40:50.03 | Janelle Kellman | I would be in support of what Council Member Sobieski just suggested and would like to also offer the inclusion of deadlines for paragraphs two and three. So I just want to put that out there. And then I want to make sure, Mayor Hoffman, that we're giving clear directions to staff is the direction that we want an analysis of the legal defensibility of the various provisions. or is it what exactly would we like staff to do regarding the LA language. I don't know. |
| 02:41:23.82 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:41:23.83 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah. |
| 02:41:23.90 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, that's a good question. |
| 02:41:25.03 | Mary Wagner | questions. |
| 02:41:25.40 | Janelle Kellman | you |
| 02:41:25.66 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:41:25.77 | Mary Wagner | Madam Mayor, may I make a suggestion? Sure. Yeah. I think it would be helpful and I think it might inform the council and if you choose the planning commission's decision. to actually pull out each paragraph of that LA resolution. and tell you what it says with respect to what SB 9 says. Some of it is a recitation of SB 9, particularly the parking, for example. It's just a recitation of what SB 9 allows, and then it's saying definitively, we are going to require this. So instead of lightening up parking standards, it's saying absolutely require these. There are a couple areas where it adds new issues, including the issue identified of the affordability covenants, the issue of There's a couple other ones that it adds that aren't covered by SB9. So that might be a helpful exercise if the council wants to see it again. |
| 02:42:22.00 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. Council Member Cleaver Knowles. |
| 02:42:26.44 | Melissa Blaustein | So I'm in favor of adopting a resolution tonight. If deadlines are added, that's fine. And with the objective design standards or whatever the correct terminology is, I'm in favor of that. I would ask that we either delete the whereas paragraph. or We have a paragraph that does not speak negatively to SB9, but says something positive. I would really like to have a 5-0 vote tonight. So either just states are positive commitment to providing housing to people of all income levels or states our commitment to working to Um... work with the public. to advance our housing goals or something positive as opposed to a negative statement. I feel like it's both kind of inviting a legal issue if we have issues down the road. And I feel like having a negative statement is not reflective. of how we're starting to set out on our housing element to meet the challenge ahead of us. So if we can't find something at this hour, I would just prefer not saying anything. But if we can find something positive to say, As my mother always said, if you're something nice to say, don't say it. But anyway, that's where I would be tonight. And I'm not in favor of adding a negative statement to this evening at this hour. Thank you. |
| 02:43:50.87 | Unknown | . |
| 02:43:51.03 | Melissa Blaustein | you Thank you. |
| 02:43:53.92 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 02:43:53.97 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay, Councilmember Blaustein. I just would definitely agree with Councilman that having, I would much prefer to start with a positive statement, but I'm totally okay with removing the paragraph as it stands now. I'm just praying. our housing discussion as a community in a positive way. |
| 02:44:11.27 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, all right, thank you. I think, you know, I think that makes sense, Ashley, too. either wordcraft something and council member sobieski is probably our best wordsmith but i don't know if he can draft something on the fly Um... But I do agree, yeah, I mean, I think we could word that in a positive way. I'm just not sure that I can get it together right now. Vice Mayor Kellman. |
| 02:44:36.43 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah, Mayor Hoffman, I think just in terms of time, I'm prepared to make a motion that removes that paragraph entirely, adds the objective development standards language Council Member Fidemont suggested and includes deadlines in paragraphs two and three. And I don't want to preclude anybody's further thoughts on this, but it sounds like would have consensus for that, and so I welcome feedback. |
| 02:45:01.13 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, so let's, I'll call, is there a motion on the table then for that? I was like, did you make a motion just now, Vice Mayor? |
| 02:45:06.77 | Janelle Kellman | I was like, and then, |
| 02:45:10.23 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:45:10.25 | Janelle Kellman | If I see not any heads, I will make that motion. Yes. Yes. |
| 02:45:10.26 | Jill Hoffman | If I see that. |
| 02:45:14.06 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. |
| 02:45:14.31 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 02:45:14.40 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 02:45:14.47 | Jill Hoffman | you All right, are there any other alternate motions? I'm not seeing, okay, then let's call the roll, Mr. Clerk. |
| 02:45:22.95 | Heidi Scoble | Council Member Sobieski? Councilmember Blonstein. |
| 02:45:26.87 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:45:26.89 | Janelle Kellman | you |
| 02:45:27.69 | Heidi Scoble | Council Member Cleveland-O. |
| 02:45:29.21 | Janelle Kellman | Yes. |
| 02:45:30.07 | Heidi Scoble | advise Mayor Kelman. |
| 02:45:31.59 | Janelle Kellman | Yes, but I do notice, do I need an amendment? We didn't say what deadlines for two and three, and I see Mary nodding her head. Um, so. uh, Should they make amendment to that motion, Mary? |
| 02:45:43.64 | Mary Wagner | If the council wants to include definitive deadlines by the time you want the city manager and the city attorney to work with staff to develop interim guidelines, and return to the council with an ordinance I mean, I would suggest that we've heard you that you want deadlines. One opportunity is to talk with the mayor and the vice mayor's agenda setting about when we can get back to the council with that ordinance. But if the council wants, you know, you want to see that within X number of days, months, then we would need that included in the language. I'm trying to think of what is realistic, frankly, with staff's constraints, and they need to look to the city manager to help with that a little bit. |
| 02:46:25.25 | Janelle Kellman | manager. Okay. I mean, I will make an amendment proposing January 31st as the deadline. |
| 02:46:34.18 | Mary Wagner | for which, Madam Vice Mayor. |
| 02:46:34.22 | Janelle Kellman | for the first time. there. Paragraphs two and three. |
| 02:46:37.78 | Mary Wagner | So we're gonna have worked, well, there are two separate issues, right? So first we're gonna have interim guidelines in place until the council adopts a resolution or an ordinance. That's section one. I would think that would be an earlier deliverable than two, which is the ordinance. |
| 02:46:52.56 | Jill Hoffman | Good point. Yeah. I agree. So do you want to put your dates in there, make an amendment? Vice Mayor? you |
| 02:47:01.22 | Janelle Kellman | That's so my fellow colleagues will indulge me. I will make that amendment to January 1st. for paragraph, the new paragraph two. |
| 02:47:11.31 | Melissa Blaustein | And is there any deadline for the second paragraph, or we'll get that deadline on January 31st? Does that make sense? |
| 02:47:19.04 | Jill Hoffman | We'll get a move. So two step process, right? Interim guidelines, I would, |
| 02:47:19.14 | Melissa Blaustein | I've got them. |
| 02:47:25.79 | Jill Hoffman | A month later, 2-28. Well, the interim guidelines come before the ordinance, right? So you would want to do the interim guidelines by the 31st of January and then |
| 02:47:38.41 | Melissa Blaustein | I was just suggesting that on the 31st of January, we'd set a deadline. |
| 02:47:38.46 | Jill Hoffman | They're always |
| 02:47:39.12 | Janelle Kellman | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:47:42.97 | Melissa Blaustein | based on staff's recommendation for the ordinance. |
| 02:47:47.54 | Jill Hoffman | That's fine. Do you, Vice Mayor, any issue with that? I'm fine with that. Okay, all right, so the amendment as stated by the Vice Mayor is |
| 02:47:51.79 | Melissa Blaustein | I'm sure. |
| 02:48:00.38 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:48:01.46 | Jill Hoffman | is that the interim guidelines, we'll have that back from staff on January 31st. And with regard to the ordinance, we will discuss that no later than January 31st. |
| 02:48:01.61 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:48:15.38 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. Yes. Is that good? OK. So that's the amendment. |
| 02:48:20.19 | Melissa Blaustein | What's that? I think the vice mayor made the motion again, and I said I'll re-second. |
| 02:48:27.58 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:48:28.46 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay. then Mr. |
| 02:48:29.98 | Jill Hoffman | could you please call the roll again? |
| 02:48:32.98 | Heidi Scoble | Council Member Sobieski. yes. Council Member Blavstein. |
| 02:48:40.09 | Eva | Yes. |
| 02:48:40.93 | Heidi Scoble | Council member Clivenall. |
| 02:48:43.07 | Eva | Yes. |
| 02:48:43.44 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:48:44.39 | Heidi Scoble | Vice Mayor Kelman. Mayor Hoffman. |
| 02:48:47.48 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. Okay, motion passes unanimously. Thank you very much for working together. I see on our calendar, we are almost an hour late behind our schedule. We're starting. And now this is a question to our city manager and to the rest of the council. Do we wanna go ahead and have the report from the library department overview That's not, there's no action required in that. That's just part of our process of asking for department or do we want to move that to a later meeting? So, Yeah, apologies to our librarian that I'm even suggesting this, |
| 02:49:18.04 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:49:19.03 | Ian Sobieski | to |
| 02:49:22.90 | Jill Hoffman | Um, I don't remember Sobieski, where are you? |
| 02:49:26.07 | Ian Sobieski | I was going to suggest that we move it to a later meeting. Thank you. |
| 02:49:28.94 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. Is there any objection to that? See no objection from the council. Mr. City manager may have, is there any strong objection from your perspective? |
| 02:49:40.23 | Jeffrey Chase | No, I think you need to be fresh to hear it. So it's fine unless Abbott has a two minute presentation and he does it. |
| 02:49:43.42 | Jill Hoffman | unless they have |
| 02:49:47.03 | Jeffrey Chase | Yes. I think that's fine. Thank you. |
| 02:49:49.70 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you and thank you to the staff and Abbott for, uh his patients with us as well in our schedules Thank you. Okay, so then everybody's clear we're moving 5C to a later date to be determined by our agenda setting committee. Okay, so moving on to That was item 5C, then moving on to item 6, This is communications for matters not on the agenda. This is a time of agenda for members of the public to provide public comment. for items not on the agenda, except in limited situations State law precludes the council from taking action on or engaging in discussions concerning items of business that are not on the agenda. The council may briefly respond to statements made or questions posed by a member of the public. ask clarifying questions, make a brief announcement or refer matters not on the agenda of city staff, or direct that the subject be agendized for future meetings. If you would like to provide a public comment, please raise your hand at the Zoom application. The city clerk will call on individuals who have raised their hands in order that they were raised. After you were called on, you will be Unmuted. to allow you to share your comments. Remember, public comments are each allowed a total of three minutes to speak unless we reduce it to two minutes. Please keep your comments respectful and focused. We want to listen to any individual who requests to speak. Each speaker has a responsibility to act in the civil and courteous manner as defined by the chair We will not tolerate hate speech direct or indirect threats or abusive language, the meeting host will mute anyone who fails to follow these guidelines. At this point, I will then open up public comment for matters not on the agenda. So I see two hands raised. Mr. Clerk, call them as you will. |
| 02:51:43.00 | Heidi Scoble | Madam Mayor, we'd be doing two minutes or three minutes. |
| 02:51:46.39 | Jill Hoffman | I think since there's only two hands up, I think three minutes. |
| 02:51:50.93 | Heidi Scoble | Great. Our first speaker, it's David Sudo. David, you've been unmuted and asked to share your video. |
| 02:52:00.04 | David Sudo | Good evening again. I was taking my dog for a walk on Sunday morning and I couldn't but help notice how many families were using Southview Park. You know, there were grandparents and grandkids and parents and I think there are four or five different families using the park you know trying to I think make the best use of in COVID and I'm so glad that so many years ago before COVID that we had the foresight to fund redoing our parks which just seemed to be so much used in the last year I would. kind of asked that haven't seen it posted lately is when we're going to finish Southview Park. We still have about a quarter of the park that is unfinished and I think it would be utilized as heavily as the rest of the park So that's my comment for tonight. Thank you. |
| 02:52:54.98 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. |
| 02:52:57.60 | Heidi Scoble | Our next speaker is William Versace. William, you've been unmuted and has to share your video. |
| 02:53:05.31 | William Versace | I live in Old Town and directly below council members Cleveland knows right shoulder and I have sent copies of three letters to the City Council. One of them addressed to the Planning Commission and two of them to BCDC about the public improvements at the end of Main Street. Heidi advised me that there were matters for the Council rather than the Planning Commission I don't know exactly how that should be handled you know I think that's up to the City Clerk but I would like to request that they be agendized for the next meeting of the City Council if that's appropriate on December 7th I will also be bringing this to the Planning Commission tomorrow night for the same thing they meet next on December 1st And in fact everything may be resolved before then But if we can put it on next the next City Council agenda, I would appreciate it |
| 02:54:18.55 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. |
| 02:54:25.01 | Heidi Scoble | Our next speaker is Arthur Bruce. Arthur, you've been unmuted and asked to share your video. |
| 02:54:41.04 | Jill Hoffman | We're not hearing you, Mr. Bruce. |
| 02:54:43.19 | Arthur Bruce | Uh, can you hear me now? |
| 02:54:44.30 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. Yes, sir. We can see you and hear you. |
| 02:54:47.89 | Arthur Bruce | Go ahead. All right, well, I'm shining a little solar powered light. at my face from my boat. Thank you. you know. I'm an anchor out here going on six years tuned in late to the meeting So, be honest, if I say I don't understand the whole agenda, or what SB9, even as it represents But from observing all you guys for the last few minutes, is one thing I can say. And that's... with the exception of Melissa Blastine. You all sound like a bunch Talking heads. discussing money. |
| 02:55:33.69 | Arthur Bruce | And, The way you've treated your own vulnerable citizens is preposterous. and abhorrent. |
| 02:55:48.83 | Arthur Bruce | And |
| 02:55:54.94 | Arthur Bruce | It makes me sad to my heart. |
| 02:56:09.52 | Arthur Bruce | You got your fake backgrounds. |
| 02:56:15.24 | Arthur Bruce | your words. |
| 02:56:20.50 | Arthur Bruce | watching the ticker. |
| 02:56:26.70 | Arthur Bruce | than a million dollars. abating a homeless camp and what do you have now? the same camps erecting Pensagan. |
| 02:56:37.94 | Arthur Bruce | What you're doing is wrong. |
| 02:56:44.87 | Arthur Bruce | Please look inside your hearts. Huh? there are people out here that are hurting, that are suffering, right under your nose. right under your roofs. THE END OF beyond your front yard. and you're bullying them. and you're allowing people like Curtis Havell the sheriff's department. wreak havoc. |
| 02:57:13.68 | Arthur Bruce | I'm just going to keep rambling until my three minutes are up. three minutes. |
| 02:57:22.06 | Arthur Bruce | Not okay. You guys can do better. I'm here to tell you you can do better and expect that you do better and see that you do better. I'm okay, but there's people out here that aren't. you need to stop. taking giant dumps on him. and bullying them. pushing them into LITER. Literally. Suez. Jill, what did you do to this camp? |
| 02:57:53.49 | Heidi Scoble | Your three minutes have elapsed. Thank you. Our next speaker. |
| 02:57:56.41 | Arthur Bruce | Be courageous. |
| 02:57:58.11 | Heidi Scoble | It's our next speaker. It's Eva. Eva, you've been asked to be unmuted and hear your video. |
| 02:58:05.32 | Eva | Thanks so much. Can you hear me? Yes, go ahead. Thank you, Mayor Hoffman. |
| 02:58:10.21 | Unknown | who just spoke, Arthur Bruce, is actually the man who helped save my boat in the last storm. Even though I am in a marina, thank goodness he has a cell phone because when I had some problems with my filch pump, |
| 02:58:19.79 | Unknown | I was like, |
| 02:58:23.07 | Unknown | He walked me through what I needed to do, even though he was dealing with a much worse situation on the water. So I hope we can appreciate all the people in the Anchorage for their skills and their talents Really, they're, you know, I don't want to say frontier spirit, but the old kind of, the old spirit of communities where, you know, you take care of the guy next to you because he might be taking care of you next time. Um, I do want to point out that that there have been some new problems with the encampment in Sausalito. And I wanna urge everyone on city council to make sure that They're dealing with it. I did want to point out is that I read the letters that you received for public comment about the shelter you did try to provide near the school, near the Lise. And I have to say as a former UCSF staffer who helped care for an awful lot of unhoused people, I was horrified by the letters. They were so cruel and so callous. I don't think they meant to be. I think they were just quite ignorant. They were referring to situations that they found somehow shocking. And this was after there had been a horrible storm and people had been blown this way and that. And they were horrified that there were two homeless people who were apparently smoking a cigarette together because that's absolutely not permitted near a school. Now I understand that, but there was just a, atmospheric river that had, you know, destroyed a camp and these people I mean, As far as I'm concerned, if the worst thing they were doing was smoking a cigarette, we should all be grateful. By the way, we've all lived through four years of wildfire smoke, so I think one cigarette wasn't going to kill anyone. And then they were also upset because some man was apparently not wearing his shirt. or some such. It was really, it was odd. I mean, it was almost as if these wealthy people whose children went to the lycée, could not conceive of the possibility that someone whose all his belongings had just been utterly soaked might be without a shirt. might need a dry pair of pants. You know, I mean, The reaction It shocked me, but it's so typical. The reaction from these clueless people was to be horrified instead of to think, This is my fellow man, how could I help him? Yeah. I KNOW WE CAN DO BETTER. THANK YOU. Thank you. |
| 03:01:09.84 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:01:09.86 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:01:09.94 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Okay, that's the last hand I see for public comment for matters not on the agenda. Um, Unless I'm told otherwise, I'm going to close public comment for item 7. And moving on to our next item, which is city manager report, city council appointments, and other council business. |
| 03:01:31.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:01:31.81 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:01:31.83 | Unknown | you |
| 03:01:32.02 | Jill Hoffman | we hear public comment for this item all all the item a b C, D, and E under eight at one time and that's So I'm gonna open up public comment for items 8B through 8E. |
| 03:01:49.31 | Heidi Scoble | And Madam Mayor, I see no hands raised at the moment. |
| 03:01:52.98 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. In that case, I will close public comment for items. 8B through E. And we will move on to item 8B, which is city manager information for the council. |
| 03:02:06.86 | Jeffrey Chase | this. Merri... |
| 03:02:09.93 | Jill Hoffman | Yes, yes, Your Honor. |
| 03:02:09.97 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. Yeah, okay, Mary, I'd like to just inform the council of a couple of things related to the disaster declaration of the 24th of October, which required us to open the Martin Luther Cain. Jim is a temporary shelter for any and all persons to get out of the weather. We've had that open and the weather patterns have diminished So I issued a notice today. that that would be closing tomorrow at noon. So if the weather rises up again, we will certainly do a better job communicating what we're doing and how we're doing it, but that facility could be used again. The second thing I want to provide information to the council and community on is Today we received a A note from Jimmie Reynolds of the Marin County Cooperation Team. said they were going to unengage with the city with respect to their contract and providing services to the friendship shelter. So we have to start all over again with Councilmember Blaus doing support and your support. We're reaching back out to Urban Alchemy. to see if they will in fact come back and assist us. We'll talk to the county about the work that they can do to help us with some of the things that Urban Alchemy does not do in Sausalito. so that's my report i'll have more to report in the coming weeks and I also want to note to the community that you have another council meeting on Wednesday. and so that makes five city council meetings in 21 days So congratulations to you all for finishing them. Thank you. |
| 03:03:47.84 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, to be clear though, tomorrow, the city council meeting tomorrow is for a, an appeal from the planning commission. Yeah. Thank you for pointing that out. Okay, so then moving on to our next item, appointments. We don't have any appointments tonight. I do want to apologize though with regarding committee reports. I promised I was going to put out a written format for committee reports and I did not get that done. I'm so sorry. I apologize. So let's... Let's do that under, let's just do that now. Community report, if anybody's got a community report out, I've got one, but somebody else can go first if they wanna go first. Okay, I'll go. Um, So I wanted to give an update on our homeless subcommittee. Obviously we're working very hard to things that are going on with the encampment right now. But one of the exciting things that came to light to and Senator McGuire did that imposing or a forum on it a public forum on it about the new funding that's coming down for homelessness from the statewide which is I think at 2.2 billion this year and it's taken out of the surplus it's committed just to homelessness. Of that 47 million alone, is segregated to a grant program for encampments. And so Council Member Gloucester and I are working on doing a grant application for some of that money for an innovative program here in Sausalito with regard to our encampment. We're trying to partner with the county as our service provider as recommended by the county by the administrator of the grant program and it's through the California Homeless Coordinating and Finance Council. And so stay tuned on that. But we'll be bringing that back to the city council fairly quickly. The deadline for the grant I believe it was December 31st. with decisions made I think within the first by March. And so we'll talk more about that I suppose on December 7th about what our grant proposal will look like and that we plan to submit it on or before the 31st. So, um, I think that's my update on what our efforts, our supplemental efforts with the homeless group. Anybody else have any committee reports they'd like to? |
| 03:06:40.39 | Melissa Blaustein | Mayor, I have one committee report, but could I just ask a question on your report? And I'm sorry if I missed it. I was looking at my notes while you were speaking too. |
| 03:06:44.88 | Unknown | Sure. Thank you. |
| 03:06:46.65 | Jill Hoffman | No, no. |
| 03:06:49.17 | Melissa Blaustein | So will we get a proposal for what you are proposing to seeker grant for the council here, the overall plan? |
| 03:06:57.69 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, I think we'll probably try to do it at the December 7th meeting about this is, this is what our proposal is. And this is the direction that we'd like to move forward. So that would be my recommendation. |
| 03:07:13.42 | Melissa Blaustein | Great, thank you. Sure. And so the main thing I just wanted to report on, it was a very interesting discussion at PBAC, Pedestrian Bike Advisory Committee on Monday, |
| 03:07:14.50 | Jill Hoffman | Sure. |
| 03:07:26.04 | Melissa Blaustein | evening, very apropos of our conversation last week about Caledonia Street. unknown to me as a Peeback and Director McGowan had already been preparing an item on bike parking. around town and using spaces such as kind of awkward parking space that's unused right now on Caledonia Street that we talked about um, at the north end for bike parking or for alternative types of emerging mobility like scooters or strollers. So it was a pretty interesting discussion, more wide ranging about areas of town that were in need. of either updated bicycle parking, we have a lot of old bike racks in town, or in just need of bike parking. And a lot of the focus was on kind of resident serving bicycle parking and including e-bike parking as well. So that was an interesting discussion. Another discussion at that same meeting was on various pedestrian improvements, pedestrian ways such as stairs and steps, sidewalks, and Daylighting, which I think probably most people know what that is, but that means creating more space around intersections so that children and people crossing the street are more easily seen and can see cars. So that was... No concrete actions, but I've got good discussions. So thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:09:03.46 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. Council member, or sorry, Vice Mayor, come in. |
| 03:09:07.00 | Janelle Kellman | I'll just mention briefly, since we talked a little bit about mitigation versus adaptation tonight. So MCU has been focusing on green hydrogen and biomass. And so they've been working with several local startups to figure out vendors who can do some really interesting things around green hydrogen production, gasification technology, And what do you do with the byproducts of some of the outcomes of 1383, which we discussed at our last meeting? around waste. So if anybody's interested in that information or seeing some of the startups that MCA is looking at, Happy to share that. I'll leave it there. |
| 03:09:45.59 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:09:46.24 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 03:09:46.67 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Okay. Moving on then, for future DIN items. Anybody have any future agenda items they would like to? Yes, Council Member at all. |
| 03:10:02.27 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah, I just noticed on our future agenda items that somehow Bank of America has fallen off and we had talked a very long time ago about having proposals in August. for to evaluate and we also have in our budget, from our budget discussions, a very significant amount of revenue that anticipated from a tenant in Bank of America. So I would love to accelerate our discussion on that or at least just get it on if you turn down that item i know we had a subcommittee and but i've just kind of lost track of where we are with that and really want to keep moving on seeing that space activated and moved for community. |
| 03:10:50.29 | Jill Hoffman | uh yeah thank you I don't know why that dropped off um councilmember Sobieski and I are looking at the proposals now as the working group and, talking with the people that have, with the groups that have submitted proposals. So we started looking at those. We did one, anyway, we're doing interviews today, this week, and we have another one tomorrow, and I think we have some other ones set up too. So I don't know why that's not on the future agenda. Apologies, that was a mistake, that that's not on there. So we'll make sure that that gets back on, and that we can see when the lineup, when that's coming back. for recommendation. Councilor Blask. Yeah, sure. |
| 03:11:38.60 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. Oh, sorry. Thank you. Just to follow up on, because it's on listed on future agenda items now, but it was resolved at disaster preparedness and continued. So there actually are two emergency operation centers or one clear designated one in partnership with SMFD and with the Sausalito PD and this was discussed at the disaster preparedness meeting because I had asked about it in light of the emergency declaration and there's also a clear guide for procedures for emergencies. So I don't know how that was |
| 03:12:09.44 | Unknown | I don't know how to do it. |
| 03:12:11.07 | Melissa Blaustein | wire crossed as we were making our emergency declaration a few weeks ago, but they were very adamant about that. And in fact, there's an expansion of, there's a new plan for an expansion of shared services EOC with SMFD and others. So I invited disaster preparedness when it is convenient to potentially present about this and just review their plan and what the procedures are for the EOC. So I'd love to put them on the agenda as well. |
| 03:12:36.07 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:12:36.08 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay. |
| 03:12:36.39 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:12:36.49 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. |
| 03:12:36.60 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:12:36.79 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 03:12:36.86 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:12:37.65 | Melissa Blaustein | but Mayor Hoffman, I'm sorry. Bank of America is still on the very long future agenda items list. I just found it, it's at the very end. It says we were gonna talk about it in September. But it isn't, I thought it was on our next two meetings at some point and now it's not shown kind of any time in the future. Okay, let me apologize. It is on there, but I still would like to emphasize that I think it's... |
| 03:13:00.55 | Sandra Bushmaker | Okay. |
| 03:13:05.97 | Melissa Blaustein | It would be great to have that council discussion at some point soon. |
| 03:13:08.95 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, okay, got it. Noted. Okay. Yes, Councilmember Sobieski. |
| 03:13:17.07 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah, just... I would love that if we can use it on the 7th to take a look at our internal operating procedures, we've done that periodically. |
| 03:13:27.53 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:13:27.55 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:13:28.09 | Unknown | I think we do it annually, and I think the December 7th meeting will be a great time for us. just touch base on them and see if there are any additions or subtractions. should be a short item. you can sneak it in, that might be the right meeting to do that. |
| 03:13:42.18 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, we'll put that on the list and see what else. Someone else is on our list on the seventh. Okay, thank you. If not then, then shortly thereafter. Okay, moving on then to Other reports of significance? I'll see an eight. |
| 03:14:03.04 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 03:14:03.14 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:14:03.17 | Melissa Blaustein | Bye. |
| 03:14:03.31 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:14:03.34 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 03:14:03.36 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:14:03.46 | Melissa Blaustein | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:14:03.75 | Jill Hoffman | you you |
| 03:14:04.29 | Melissa Blaustein | Quickly, just a reminder that on November 18th, there is a workshop for ADU on Sausalito. |
| 03:14:04.47 | Jill Hoffman | Go for it. |
| 03:14:10.70 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, thank you so much. I wish I'd remember that during the homeless committee or even at the top of our meeting. So anyway, go ahead, Council Member. while saying |
| 03:14:19.95 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah, sure. Well, I mean, you're welcome to share about it too, but we're gonna be on November 18th. So on Thursday at 6 p.m. there's going to be a conversation or essentially a seminar for owners of accessory dwelling units on how they can use those adus to help ease the homelessness crisis and participate in section eight programs you can select vetted applicants your rent is paid directly to the homeowner by the housing authority and there's ongoing support for the tenants and so We sent out invitations to everyone who has an ADU permit, but if you're at all interested, it would be really great to have community members participate. |
| 03:14:54.61 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you for bringing that up. Okay, now, anything else? Any other reports of significance? Okay, then we are adjourned. Thank you very much for your hard work. Thank you to staff. Mr. Chambers, Abbott Chambers, sorry. We love you. Thanks, everybody. Good night. Thank you. Good night. |
| 03:15:09.73 | Unknown | MAKING A LITTLE BIT OF THANK YOU. |
| 03:15:11.23 | Eva | I'm sorry. |
| 03:15:13.73 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
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