| Time | Speaker | Text |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00:00.03 | Joan Cox | you Thank you. Oh, good. Record. |
| 00:00:05.03 | Kristen Teichy | Recording in progress. |
| 00:00:10.11 | Walfred Solorzano | Good evening. Sorry, we can't hear you, Mayor. |
| 00:00:22.66 | Brandon Phipps | Can't hear anyone. |
| 00:00:28.36 | Brandon Phipps | Thank you. |
| 00:00:28.38 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 00:00:28.58 | Brandon Phipps | Thank you. |
| 00:00:28.65 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:00:33.98 | Sergio Rudin | Thank you. |
| 00:00:34.02 | Joan Cox | Another question? Thank you. |
| 00:00:35.98 | Sergio Rudin | Thank you. |
| 00:00:37.81 | Steven Woodside | Okay, thank you very much. |
| 00:00:39.35 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. Thank you. Good evening, Mayor Blossom, Councilmembers. This regular meeting of September 19, 2023 is being held in Council Chambers, located at 420 Lithyl Street. Staff and members of the public are also participating through Zoom. This meeting is being broadcast live on the city's website and on Keeble TV Channel 27. |
| 00:01:02.11 | Steven Woodside | I just want to note that in the agenda this evening, you'll see that we have the Pledge of Allegiance listed as item 1A. We're going to move that to our return to full open session. Her requests from members of the public and initial protocol. So just be noted that we will do the Pledge of Allegiance when we return from closed session. And with that, I will ask you to call rural city clerk. |
| 00:01:23.31 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Cox. |
| 00:01:27.49 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:01:27.51 | Jill Hoffman | Here. |
| 00:01:28.34 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Hoffman. |
| 00:01:29.97 | Jill Hoffman | Here. |
| 00:01:30.28 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:01:30.80 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Kelman. Here. Vice Mayor Sobieski? Here. and Mayor Blachstein. |
| 00:01:36.35 | Steven Woodside | here. By the way, this evening I am appearing under the Just Cause Exception. I'm appearing because I travel for the city. I'm participating in the Strong Cities Network Conference that I'm attending here as mayor and I have to state that there are no adults over the age of 18 that are present where I am currently. And, That is all I have on that item. So now we're gonna go ahead and open up Public comment on our closed session agenda items this evening. This evening we're here in conference with labor negotiators. Government Code Section 54957.6. And we're hearing public employee appointment government code section 54957. Do we have any public comment on any of these items? |
| 00:02:20.48 | Walfred Solorzano | So any members of the public who are in-house, seeing none at the moment, they can fill out a form and bring it over to the clerk's office. Seeing none on Zoom, but if somebody shows up on Zoom, if you use the raise hand function, we will call on you. So no comment, no comments. |
| 00:02:36.41 | Joan Cox | And Mayor, I will be recusing myself from the third item public employee appointment. due to a potential conflict of interest. |
| 00:02:45.25 | Steven Woodside | Okay, thank you very much. All right, so we'll now go ahead and adjourn to closed session. |
| 00:02:53.61 | Steven Woodside | Thanks. |
| 00:03:44.06 | Steven Woodside | Okay. Do we have everybody? Can you guys hear me? |
| 00:03:51.44 | Steven Woodside | I can't. hear anything in the council chambers. |
| 00:03:55.67 | Ian Sobieski | Our microphones might be off. |
| 00:03:57.46 | Steven Woodside | Now they're on. Thanks for getting here. |
| 00:03:58.88 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah, that's because our microphones were off, Mayor. Sorry. |
| 00:04:01.80 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. I appreciate that. Okay, great. Well, welcome back from closed session, everyone. I appreciate it. I'm gonna go ahead and call this regular city council meeting back into order and we have no closed session announcements. And I'm going to go ahead and open up the meeting with the pledge of allegiance. It's back on the agenda per mention at our last meeting. So I I'm going to start on zoom and hopefully the other council members will join me because it's going to sound kind of awkward from an audio standpoint, but we will try so. We'll get started. I pledge allegiance. to the flag, to the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God. |
| 00:04:45.29 | Sandra Bushmaker | under God with liberty and justice for all. |
| 00:04:46.54 | Steven Woodside | Liberty. liberty and justice for all. Thank you very much. Okay, and now we'll move on to approval of tonight's agenda. Can I have a motion to approve the agenda please? |
| 00:04:59.11 | Melissa Blaustein | So moved. |
| 00:04:59.85 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:04:59.97 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 00:05:00.04 | Steven Woodside | I'll second. Okay, city clerk, will you take a roll call vote? |
| 00:05:05.91 | Walfred Solorzano | down. Thank you. |
| 00:05:07.22 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:05:07.38 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Hoffman. Yes. Councilmember Kelman? |
| 00:05:12.47 | Steven Woodside | . |
| 00:05:12.61 | Walfred Solorzano | Vice-Mary Sobieski? Yes. Mary Blasdine. |
| 00:05:16.66 | Steven Woodside | Yes. Okay, now we'll move on to mayor's announcements of which I have two. The first is just a reminder to members of the community that this upcoming Saturday is our chili cook off in Dunphy Park from 12 to four so we hope you'll join us and it should be a really exciting event that our community loves and we're happy to have it back. I also wanted to quickly invite, I see Steven Woodside is in the audience, just to talk for one minute about that we actually have a special visitor here at the Bay Model this week, the sailing canoe, Okuolea is here in Sausalito. So Stephen, if you would approach the podium and just Give a short announcement about that. |
| 00:05:52.58 | Brandon Phipps | about thanking your boss for the council. It really is exciting that we have probably one of the most What ground is it? Right here, right here. |
| 00:06:06.76 | Steven Woodside | Um, around the perimeter of the Pacific. It's a sailing canoe traditionally designed, no navigation equipment, no motor. and sailed by the Polynesian Voyaging Society, which has been established since 1993, I think. Anyway, they're here for a rest. um, We at the Call of the Sea, you may know the Matthew Turner. Thank you, then Mayor Hoffman, for helping us designate Matthew Turner as Sausalito's official tall ship. This other organization was established in the early 90s, and there's a connection to Sausalito there as well. Some of you may know Sausalito resident Barbara Holmes. Barbara's late brother, Tommy Holmes, is one of three people who established this traditional voyaging society in Hawaii. They built the Hokulea, sailed it around the world, and it sort of dispelled the notion that migration in the Pacific came from South America. They proved to the contrary it came from Southeast Asia across the Pacific with no navigation equipment. Anyway, they're here for a rest. Barbara Holmes has coordinated a number of low-key events while they're here. And there's a very public event across the bay at aquatic park this Sunday for people who are curious and want to see the vessel in the water. And for those who live With a view of the bay sometime, the hookah will be sailing out across the bay. on Sunday for that event. So it's quite exciting and we're very, very lucky to have this experience. So thank you. |
| 00:07:53.32 | Joan Cox | Mayor, can I add one piece of color to that? Please, absolutely. So, little known fact, Tommy Holmes was actually one of the, rowers in the outrigger canoe that was in the theme song for Hawaii Five-0. Wow. The first Hawaii Five-0. |
| 00:08:17.35 | Steven Woodside | It goes on and on. |
| 00:08:18.70 | Jill Hoffman | I just have a follow-up question. |
| 00:08:20.54 | Steven Woodside | Sure. |
| 00:08:20.83 | Jill Hoffman | Where's it birthed right now? Okay. |
| 00:08:22.26 | Steven Woodside | Okay, so as some of you know, Matthew Turner and Schooner Seward are at the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Bay Model Pier right here in Sausalito. So it's a side tie. to Seaward. The crew of Call of the Sea helped you know, pull lines and help them secure themselves. There's been a crew change. Many members of this community have provided food and kind of on the land experiences like a nice shower while they're here. They're trying to rest. There's some crew changes and so forth, but they're here. And we certainly welcome them and wish them well in the rest of their voyage. Thank you. |
| 00:09:04.65 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much, Stephen, and we will look forward to seeing that. special vessel here in Sausalito. Okay, so that wraps up the mayor's announcement. So I'll go ahead and move on now to the next item on our agenda, which is approval of our action minutes from the previous meeting. Do I have a motion to approve these minutes? |
| 00:09:26.02 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 00:09:26.03 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:09:26.05 | Joan Cox | So moving. |
| 00:09:26.47 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Okay, and do we have a second? I'll see you again. Okay, do we have any public comment on the meetings before we take a vote? |
| 00:09:35.59 | Walfred Solorzano | Once again, for public comment, if you're in house, if there's speaker slips over by the table by the television, you can fill that out and bring it over here, or you can just head straight to the dice and if you are on zoom you can use the raise hand function and right now see Tom Riley. |
| 00:09:53.63 | Steven Woodside | Great. Hi, Tom. |
| 00:09:59.90 | Walfred Solorzano | Sorry, we can't hear you. |
| 00:10:01.44 | Tom Riley | Okay. Um, Good evening. Can you hear me now? Yes. Oh, wonderful. Thank you for your dedicated service. I'm, Calling in as a member of EDAC and here to address a critical matter. Our Chair, Scott Thornbrick, submitted a letter today to you Highlighting our committee unanimously recommends extending the marketing contract with Creative Digital Agency that is expiring on October 12th. |
| 00:10:27.19 | Walfred Solorzano | All right. |
| 00:10:27.38 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 00:10:27.49 | Walfred Solorzano | So. Sorry, Tom, right now we're doing action minutes. We can have your public comment. Sorry for the confusion. |
| 00:10:32.59 | Tom Riley | Oh. Oh, I heard public comment, but that was on the extra minutes. Okay. |
| 00:10:37.79 | Walfred Solorzano | Okay. |
| 00:10:37.91 | Tom Riley | I will come back to you later. Thank you. |
| 00:10:39.88 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 00:10:41.04 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, Tom. Okay, is there any further public comment on the minutes for this evening? |
| 00:10:45.67 | Walfred Solorzano | seen none. |
| 00:10:46.82 | Steven Woodside | Okay, so then we'll go ahead and take a roll call vote on approval of the minutes, please. |
| 00:10:50.44 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Cox. Yes. Councilmember Hoffman. Yes. Councilmember Kelman. Yes. Vice Mayor Sobieski. Yes. And Mayor Blostein. |
| 00:10:53.03 | Steven Woodside | Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay, motion passes unanimously and we'll move On to our consent calendar. Matters listed under the consent calendar are considered routine and non-controversial require no discussion, are expected to have unanimous counsel support, and may be enacted by the Council in one motion in the form listed below. There will be no separate discussion of consent calendar items, however, before the Council votes on emotion to adopt the consent calendar items Council members may request that specific items be removed from the consent calendar for separate action. Items removed from the consent calendar will be discussed later on the agenda when public comment will be heard of any item that was removed from the consent calendar. Just a note that we're going to remove item 3C, sorry, 3C, D at the request of staff, because there is a need for additional time to work on that item. So item 3D is gonna be pulled from the consent and push to the next meeting. So with that in mind, we have items 3A, adopt a resolution condemning antisemitism, 3B, adopt a resolution to execute an agreement with Best Best and Krieger LLP for legal counsel. Director of Communications Annual Reports, 3E, consideration of acceptance of a donated vehicle from Southern Marin Fire in exchange for another city vehicle. 3F, adopt a resolution of approval of Second Amendment to Community Development Block Grant and Home Investment Partnership Program. 3G, receive and file a report regarding the roadway resurfacing process for 2024. 3H, receive an update on the housing element general plan update and rezoning program, EIR, and objective development and design standards. City of Sausalito. grants, Report. Do we have any counsel comment or modifications or amendments to the consent calendar? |
| 00:12:40.54 | Joan Cox | Mayor, oh, sorry. I see Councilmember Hoffman raised her hand. |
| 00:12:43.83 | Jill Hoffman | I just had one clarification. You said the item 3D was removed for further work? |
| 00:12:52.23 | Steven Woodside | or three. |
| 00:12:52.59 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 00:12:53.35 | Steven Woodside | 3D is being removed. The resolution approving the authorization of professional services for designs related to the fair. Yeah, okay, gotcha. |
| 00:12:58.66 | Joan Cox | BEEN. |
| 00:12:58.71 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 00:12:58.83 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 00:12:59.88 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:12:59.89 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:13:00.26 | Joan Cox | much for that. |
| 00:13:00.75 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:13:01.39 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
| 00:13:01.41 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:13:01.51 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:13:01.75 | Jill Hoffman | you |
| 00:13:02.25 | Steven Woodside | You're welcome. Yes, Councilmember Cox. |
| 00:13:04.99 | Joan Cox | Mayor, I just wanted to announce I will be recusing myself from item 3B adopting an agreement with Best Best Krieger for city attorney services, since my firm currently provides city attorney services and there's therefore a potential conflict of interest. |
| 00:13:23.28 | Steven Woodside | Okay, thank you. |
| 00:13:23.97 | Melissa Blaustein | And Councilmember Kelman? I'm wondering if my fellow Councilmembers have any interest in having a more thorough discussion on Item 3G, which is a report regarding the roadway resurfacing process for the 2024 roadway resurfacing project. The reason for this request is that our rating has declined, and I think it's important to have sort of a conversation. I think I saw Director McGowan here. on why that is and how that might impact some of our planning around the capital improvement program. |
| 00:13:51.88 | Ian Sobieski | Just so you know, there's a report that is being prepared for next. It's going to be a business item next week. Meeting. Thank you. |
| 00:13:58.31 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
| 00:13:58.45 | Ian Sobieski | And so this is just sort of to whet your appetite. you |
| 00:14:01.23 | Joan Cox | about |
| 00:14:01.27 | Ian Sobieski | about the data, but there's a whole report being put together and it'll be a business item. |
| 00:14:02.38 | Joan Cox | It works. |
| 00:14:03.00 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:14:07.31 | Ian Sobieski | at the next meeting. |
| 00:14:08.49 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. So let me follow up with regard to 3G because I had a question about that too. And that was specifically, actually I had residents along Edwards Avenue contact me about that regarding the upgrades to Edwards Avenue, which is a separate a completely separate project. And I did ask if Director McGowan could give us just a really quick update on that. Karen Hollweg, want to remove it tonight for that reason if we're going to talk about Councilmember Kelman's issues, but I believe Dr Morgan is ready to give us like just a very short update on the Edwards avenue project because that is a matter of concern for a number of people and Sausalito so. |
| 00:14:58.81 | Melissa Blaustein | So do we have to take this off to consent and then he can speak to Edward Zab within the context of this item? |
| 00:15:04.31 | Jill Hoffman | I don't think you have to take it off consent. You can give small clarifications about an agenda item without taking it off the agenda. So I would suggest that- Amendment. it's less than your update is gonna be less than three minutes, right? |
| 00:15:17.14 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
| 00:15:17.24 | Jill Hoffman | Absolutely. |
| 00:15:17.71 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
| 00:15:18.01 | Jill Hoffman | Unless anybody has an objection, I think that's not correct. I'm okay with that. |
| 00:15:22.22 | Steven Woodside | That's fine if he's just giving an update on Edwards with the awareness that next meeting will have a more thorough conversation. report per council member Kelman's request. |
| 00:15:29.76 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, and specifically why Edwards isn't part of this resurfacing society |
| 00:15:33.79 | Jill Hoffman | um, Go ahead, Director McGowan. |
| 00:15:38.13 | Kevin McGowan | That's all right. So good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Item 3G is kind of a detail on our process for looking at future roads that need to be resurfaced. Now, we already have a project on Edwards, which was part of 2022's resurfacing program. That project is moving forward. We are anticipating getting plan sets back within the next two to three weeks and advertising that specific project. That project has a retaining wall system at the corner of Marion and Edwards. We're separating that out specifically because that's specialty work and the paving contractor may not have that type of specialty. So we're going to bid that one separately as well. The intent is to try to get the bids out fairly soon. So that we could get prices in to determine if we can move forward with this project before the wintertime sets in, that would be great, but we are a little late in the season. So, I just want to caution folks that we'll do our best to get our bids in, but we may be running out of time at this point. So we're moving forward to that fairly quickly. It's a complex project involving sewer, street, roads, all sorts of different things. Thank you. |
| 00:16:52.06 | Melissa Blaustein | Great. I have another question for Director McGowan, Mayor, when appropriate, not on this particular item, though. |
| 00:16:53.34 | Joan Cox | I have. |
| 00:16:59.84 | Steven Woodside | Okay, is it on another item on consent? |
| 00:17:01.69 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Correct. I have a question on this item, but maybe it's better for next. But when you come back to us next meeting, will you also communicate to us whether you have adequate staff to carry out the recommendations that you'll be presenting to us regarding which, whether you're aligned or not with the consultant's recommendation about next roads to address? |
| 00:17:25.84 | Kevin McGowan | I'd like to discuss that with our city manager as we develop our next presentation. So I can't answer that right now. |
| 00:17:32.88 | Joan Cox | No, I'm asking you to answer it at the next meeting. We'll do our best to address you. |
| 00:17:36.34 | Kevin McGowan | to address your questions, yes. |
| 00:17:37.76 | Joan Cox | prognostication of questions to come. |
| 00:17:43.12 | Kevin McGowan | Very well said. |
| 00:17:45.69 | Melissa Blaustein | Yes, it is a word. And just to clarify, Dr. McGowan, so the next meeting we'll hear about how additional funding or no funding can influence the pavement condition index, correct? |
| 00:17:55.49 | Kevin McGowan | We'll do our best to address that. Yes, I have to work with our city manager on that specifically, but yes. |
| 00:18:00.91 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay, well, I plan to ask a lot of questions around budget and cost and staffing time for road resurfacing projects and overall impacts to our rating index. |
| 00:18:14.85 | Kevin McGowan | Okay, be excited to try to answer those questions. You've been warned. |
| 00:18:19.83 | Melissa Blaustein | Right. |
| 00:18:20.05 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:18:20.06 | Melissa Blaustein | Don't go anywhere, though. I have another question for you. |
| 00:18:23.72 | Steven Woodside | Okay, is this another item on consent? I just wanna make sure we're... |
| 00:18:24.26 | Melissa Blaustein | Bye. Yeah, it is on consent. Oh, it's on... 3D, is that the, sorry, now I'm confused. That's when we moved. |
| 00:18:34.03 | Steven Woodside | Yeah, we've pulled item 3D, so that will not be heard this evening. |
| 00:18:38.84 | Melissa Blaustein | I have a question for Dr. McGonaghan. |
| 00:18:41.04 | Steven Woodside | question for director Phipps That's also as it relates to consent calendar items. |
| 00:18:46.52 | Melissa Blaustein | also on the consent, it is actually item 3F. our community development block grant program. It's just a clarification question. This committee block grant program question came up during the housing element, and I thought DeNovo told us that we either didn't qualify or had never received such funds, and I didn't see this referenced in your update on the housing element and so I'm wondering if you could connect the dots. |
| 00:19:10.52 | Brandon Phipps | Yeah, thank you very much, Councilmember, for the question. So the short answer to that is that Sausalito does not receive individually allocated CDBG funds because of our small city size. Instead of receiving funds directly, we have decided to create a coalition of Marin County cities in order to establish ourselves as an urban county, which essentially means that this county coalition is the one that receives and allocates those funds. So Sausalito doesn't receive them. They're passed on to a larger urban county. contingent and that contingent helps to direct those funds. |
| 00:19:53.11 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay, then can I also suggest that you circle back with the city manager on something called a climate resilience district. And we talked about this earlier today, the city manager and I did, and it's an opportunity for multiple jurisdictions to invest in infrastructure through establishing these districts that are focused on climate. So I think it would be a good add to how we might address some of the upcoming issues in the housing element. |
| 00:20:14.20 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:20:15.01 | Brandon Phipps | Will do. Thank you, council member. |
| 00:20:19.08 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Do we have anything else on the consent calendar? I know that there was an amendment potentially to item 2B. |
| 00:20:24.46 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Yes, I would like to offer an amendment to item 3B, sorry. 3B, which is adoption of a resolution to execute an amendment with Best and Krieger LLP for legal Council and City Attorney Services effective September 20th, 2023. Sorry, yeah, 2023. I would like to offer an amendment to change the effective date to September 20th, 2023, with corresponding changes to all attachments. |
| 00:20:55.57 | Steven Woodside | Great. Did staff get that? |
| 00:20:59.29 | Walfred Solorzano | Got it. |
| 00:21:00.44 | Steven Woodside | Okay, fantastic. |
| 00:21:02.03 | Walfred Solorzano | Second. Oh, we did have somebody in public comment. |
| 00:21:05.83 | Steven Woodside | I know I was just about to say, Lynn, we need to open up public comment before we make a motion here. So- |
| 00:21:11.56 | Sergio Rudin | Thank you. Mayor, if you have any council members that need to state any recusals, I think this would be a good time for that. |
| 00:21:17.99 | Joan Cox | I already stated my recusal on this item. |
| 00:21:20.78 | Sergio Rudin | Very good. Thank you. |
| 00:21:21.60 | Joan Cox | And the vice mayor seconded the motion of the council member Hoffman to amend item to be. |
| 00:21:30.14 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:21:30.17 | Joan Cox | 3B. |
| 00:21:30.51 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:21:30.53 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:21:31.10 | Joan Cox | 3B, sorry. |
| 00:21:32.18 | Steven Woodside | That's right. Do we need to take a vote on that amendment or will it be passed as part of the consent calendar, Sergio? |
| 00:21:39.42 | Sergio Rudin | The way I would recommend that you guys handle it is do a single motion, approve the consent calendar with the changes to the contract as mentioned. |
| 00:21:46.85 | Joan Cox | Well, they can't do a single motion because I'm recusing myself. I was hoping that you would do separate motions for item 3B. versus the rest of the consent calendar. |
| 00:21:56.99 | Sergio Rudin | In that case, I would recommend that we do a single motion on the entire consent calendar, minus the items that are pulled in item 3B, and then a separate vote to approve item 3B. |
| 00:22:05.80 | Steven Woodside | Okay, sounds great, but we do need to take public comment on the entirety of the consent calendar, so I will open it up now for public comments. |
| 00:22:15.06 | Walfred Solorzano | we did have a gentleman, Jacques Omen. He was willing to come on 3D, but I think he left. Okay. I'm seeing no other comments. |
| 00:22:25.88 | Steven Woodside | Okay, so I will first make a motion to approve consent calendar items 3A, 3C, 3E, 3F, 3G, 3H, 3I. Second. Okay. And so, uh, city clerk, will you take a roll call vote, please? |
| 00:22:44.76 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Cox. Thank you. |
| 00:22:45.98 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 00:22:46.67 | Walfred Solorzano | Council member Hoffman. |
| 00:22:48.00 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 00:22:48.32 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. Council member coming. you |
| 00:22:49.78 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 00:22:49.79 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Vice Mayor Sobieski. Yes. And Mayor Blasin. |
| 00:22:53.00 | Steven Woodside | Yes, okay, excellent. And now we need to take a vote on item three, B, which has a amendment suggested by Council member Hoffman and seconded by vice mayor Sobieski and member Cox is going to be recusing herself from this item so please take a roll call vote city clerk. |
| 00:23:11.32 | Joan Cox | You need a motion and a second to approve that item. |
| 00:23:14.97 | Steven Woodside | Right, we had a motion a second before consent, remember? before we- To amend it, |
| 00:23:17.75 | Joan Cox | to amend it, not to approve it. |
| 00:23:20.49 | Steven Woodside | OK. |
| 00:23:20.89 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:23:20.93 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:23:20.98 | Jill Hoffman | motion. So I moved that we that we make a motion for agenda item 3b with the amendment that the effective date of September 20th or September 23rd be amended to September. Hold on. The effective date of September 23rd, 2023 be amended to September 20th. 2023 with corresponding changes to all attachments. |
| 00:23:45.61 | Ian Sobieski | Second. |
| 00:23:46.04 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 00:23:47.76 | Steven Woodside | Okay, now can we have a roll call vote, please? |
| 00:23:50.49 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Cox recused. Councilmember Huffman? |
| 00:23:52.79 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 00:23:53.63 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Kelman? |
| 00:23:55.47 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 00:23:55.92 | Walfred Solorzano | Vice Mayor Sobieski? Yes. And Mayor Blossie. |
| 00:23:58.89 | Steven Woodside | Yes. Thank you. Okay, great. Thank you very much. Motion carries unanimously and now we will move on in our agenda. to We have no public hearing items this evening, so we'll go ahead and move on to item five, which is business items. |
| 00:24:13.17 | Walfred Solorzano | One moment, please. Sergio, item number. 5C, should it be moved to public hearing? |
| 00:24:23.65 | Sergio Rudin | Yeah, I would recommend that we move item 5C as a public hearing item. We did publish the appropriate hearing notice for this. This should have been labeled as public hearing. |
| 00:24:33.62 | Steven Woodside | Okay, so then we'll begin with item 5C, which is the introduction of a men and it will now be, do we have to read nomenclate nomenclature as item 4A then? |
| 00:24:43.98 | Sergio Rudin | I think we will just, you know, refer, I don't think ultimately it matters. I think we just need to conduct a public hearing on this item. |
| 00:24:51.51 | Steven Woodside | Okay. Excellent. So we will begin then with item 5C as a public hearing item. which is introduction of amendments to the Sausalito Municipal Code, Title 10, including Table 10.22.1, land use allowed in residential districts sections 10.44080 Accessory Dwelling Unit Regulations, Section 10.44085, junior accessory dwelling unit regulations. And I will pass it off to our community development director, Brandon Phipps. |
| 00:25:20.32 | Brandon Phipps | I actually have a quick question. |
| 00:25:22.63 | Kristen Teichy | Good evening. This is Kristen Teichy, Principal Planner. Great. Thank you. |
| 00:25:25.11 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:25:27.15 | Kristen Teichy | Good evening, everyone. Thank you for having me here tonight. So on January 1st, 2023, Senate Bill 897 went into effect, amending state law regarding ADUs and JADUs. And then on April 6, 2023, the Department of Housing and Community Development reviewed the city's regulations and sent us a letter outlining all the areas that our current code is not in compliance with state law. Due to these events, the city attorney and staff collaborated on zoning amendments that we are presenting to you tonight. Generally, they include an amendment to Table 1022-1. Land uses are allowed in residential districts. The state law only allows JADUs and residential districts that permit single-family homes, and our code currently allows them in the R2, R3 and plan development districts. So we have corrected that to bring it into compliance with state law. In addition, we have substantially reworked sections 1044, 080, and 085 addressing ADUs and JADUs to better reflect current state law with regard to unit size, permitted height, setbacks, the number of permitted units, etc. to remove expired language pertaining to amnesty ADUs, to make it clear that accessory dwelling units are processed ministerially. And just as an aside, state law does not allow a city to restrict... to make it clear that accessory dwelling units are processed ministerially. And just as an aside, state law does not allow a city to restrict or deny an ADU based on any perceived impacts on the adjacent properties. So that's why it's important that it's clear in the code. So that's why it's important that it's clear in the code. With regard to permitted unit size, we still allow for up to 800 square feet to be exempt in compliance with state law from standards governing floor area, lot coverage, and you and impervious surfaces. If the unit has a four foot setback and meets the height limits, we have to allow them regardless of non-compliance with our current standards on those subjects. For any ADU that exceeds 800 square feet, they do have to comply with our current standards for lot coverage. in everything else. And so as drafted, we did limit unit size to 850 square feet for a studio or one bedroom and 1000 square feet for units with more than one bedroom. These are consistent with state law in our prior, our current zoning regulations governing these types of units. The state law does allow for larger units if the council is interested in allowing them. We have kept them down to a smaller size because smaller units tend to encourage more affordable rental rates. With regard to height limits, the attached ADUN may now be up to 25 feet in height. And detached accessory dwelling units start at 16 feet, but you can add two feet if you're within walking distance of a high quality transit district or to help match the roof pitch with the primary residence. When both apply, the unit can then be up to 25 feet in height. With regard to parking requirements, we can require one on site space per unit. However, the state has provided so many exemptions that it's going to be fairly rare when the unit actually is required to provide a parking space. The number of units is something that has become much clearer to us now with the new state laws and how the state interprets these codes. Thank you. A single-family residential parcel may contain a primary residence, one attached, and one detached dwelling unit, and one junior accessory dwelling unit. A developed multifamily residential property may propose to add more than one ADU in existing unimproved non-habitable spaces such as garages, attics, basements. And they can also have up to two detached ADUs added to the property, assuming that they will fit. And I'm, The Planning Commission heard these code amendments on July 12, 2023, and have recommended that the Council adopt the revision subject to a few changes that they asked staff to provide, and we have included these. in the codes that you were provided for your stop report. One is that they wanted us to define public transit because parking is waived based on proximity to public transit. And second, they wanted us to clarify how height was measured and wanted it to be more restrictive than how height is measured in our current zoning regulations, which averages the highest and lowest contacts, and you measure from the midpoint. Now we have rewritten it just for these code sections to say that it is measured at any point along the roofline of the unit or its ceiling if it's below the house to the grade directly below in its existing or created grade, So you can't build it up or cut it down and get a freebie out of that. Okay, so that concludes my report. Staff recommends that the council introduce and read these title amendments. Move to approve the draft ordinance as proposed with modification. Continue the proposed ordinance for second reading to October 3rd, 2023. and authorize a summary of the ordinance to be published five days in advance of the second reading and for 15 days after its adoption. |
| 00:30:53.65 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much, Kristin. Okay, I see Councilmember Cox has her hand raised first. Please go ahead with questions. |
| 00:30:59.07 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Um, And thank you for providing the red line. That's very helpful. So... Karen Hollweg, Item eight public, the definition of public transit took out the word stop. |
| 00:31:11.25 | Joan Cox | Mm-hmm. |
| 00:31:11.64 | Joan Cox | But in the rest of the ordinance, it still makes reference to a transit stop. And so the definition to me reads better if it's public transit stop as opposed to just public transit. |
| 00:31:17.17 | Joan Cox | And that's it. |
| 00:31:22.13 | Kristen Teichy | Thank you. Well, we may need to take the word stop out, Sergio. I'm not sure. |
| 00:31:28.02 | Joan Cox | It says public public transit. It used to say public transit stop means a designated bus stop, train stop, ferry terminal, or other public transit station. It's not public transit. a bus or a train or a ferry. It really is applying to a transit stop and that's how it's used elsewhere in the ordinance. |
| 00:31:47.45 | Kristen Teichy | I'm fine with changing it if that's the appropriate way to go. |
| 00:31:51.90 | Joan Cox | So that was one question. Another question was we've removed amnesty and I'd like this city council. I would like to ask that the community development department provide us with an updated report regarding amnesty applications received because at one time amnesty applications were a large source or a significant source. of Low income housing, because we granted amnesty and we've extended it a couple of times. And every time we extend it, we get more applications for people who already have |
| 00:32:27.74 | Joan Cox | Mm-hmm. |
| 00:32:27.96 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 00:32:36.52 | Joan Cox | ADUs but want to go ahead and start paying the, tax on them, et cetera, to be legal. And so I'd like to, before we just summarily remove this from our ordinance, I'd like to, even though it's expired, I'd like to hear some data so that we can consider whether it's worthwhile reinstating it. |
| 00:32:58.86 | Kristen Teichy | So just so you understand, the state law does address that. And so we've incorporated their language in which requires us to approve them, any unit built prior to 2018, I believe. And we can't even really make them change them unless there's a health and safety issue. |
| 00:33:15.35 | Joan Cox | And that's how it was drafted before was it relied on we had to have health and safety. Speaking of health and safety, we used to have an exception in our ADU parking requirements for those streets that are so narrow that it would adversely impact the ability of our public safety folks to access a unit if units, if there was street parking on both sides of the road. I saw some of that removed. |
| 00:33:47.60 | Kristen Teichy | Mm-hmm. Sergio, do you want to address that? |
| 00:33:51.78 | Joan Cox | And we included it previously under that same theory that health and safety trumps housing. |
| 00:34:00.61 | Sergio Rudin | So there are provisions in state law that allow the city council to designate areas where, um, ADUs can be built and, you know, based on provision of things like water, sewer service, etc., things like that, you can limit the locations in the city where you're allowing ADUs. Um, One of the issues is with respect to safety issues with parking on streets, the city does have other tools to regulate street parking under the vehicle code. So regardless of whether or not you're allowing ADUs, you could ban street parking in areas where the streets are too narrow to accommodate street parking on both sides. And that is something that may still be an issue, even if you're banning ADUs in that particular area, because you may have single family homes where guests or other users may be parking on the street and blocking homes. And that's an issue that is not necessarily directly related to ADU construction. Although obviously it can exacerbate it. |
| 00:34:59.13 | Joan Cox | I'll just add another issue associated with this is short term rentals. So even though we have a ban on short term rentals, we know they still occur, and they do occur with ADUs, even though we specifically ban ADUs from being used as short term rentals. And it's those short term renters who don't. follow the directions about where to park or not park. And so that's why it's so important in narrow in areas of town where the streets are too narrow to easily allow access of fire or police vehicles that we require offsite parking for new vehicles. Housing. new ADUs. So that is just I throw that out there as a question. Thank you for clarifying. And I would like us to consider whether now or at some point in the future, it's appropriate to reinstitute some of that language for certain designated areas in Sausalito. Hold on, let me see if I had any other questions. |
| 00:36:04.40 | Steven Woodside | Councilmember Cox, just to clarify for correction to staff, you'd like to see if we can consider reinstituting the parking exceptions for ADUs on fire roads. |
| 00:36:15.78 | Joan Cox | So right now, the ordinance does not require... off street parking for any ADUs. Our prior version did require off street parking for ADUs in certain areas due to the narrowness of the roads in those areas and the fear that without providing additional parking Um, There would be no place for people to park that's not far away. there would be an adverse impact to public safety. We had several years ago, a fire at an at a short term rental and the fire truck had to take out a couple of parked cars to get to the fire. and was delayed in reaching the residence because of cars parked on the street improperly. |
| 00:37:14.23 | Steven Woodside | OK. Is that consistent, Sergio, with compliance with the California law? Are we allowed to have those types of exceptions? |
| 00:37:23.51 | Sergio Rudin | So I suspect that the position that HCD may take upon review of this ordinance, and keeping in mind that unlike most ordinances, after adoption the city has to submit this ordinance to HCD for subsequent review and approval. I suspect that they may take some issue with the city adopting additional parking requirements on ADUs where The city is supposed to be providing exemptions for parking. So I do think that the simplest and easiest way to address the parking issue on fire roads would be for the city to ban on street parking in specific areas where there is a health and safety issue and that is something the city can undertake outside of this ordinance relatively quickly by resolution. Um, with respect to the earlier question about changes to the definition of public transit to public transit stop. I think that is something the council can direct us to do. And frankly, we can do that. on first reading without having to reintroduce the ordinance. I think that's pretty clear. So those are my comments on those suggestions. |
| 00:38:24.06 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. We have further questions from council members on the dais at this time. |
| 00:38:31.99 | Steven Woodside | No? Okay, seeing none then I'll go ahead and open it up for public comment. |
| 00:38:39.65 | Walfred Solorzano | Do we have to call it public hearing? |
| 00:38:42.59 | Steven Woodside | I will open it up for public hearing |
| 00:38:43.03 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 00:38:46.39 | Walfred Solorzano | Um, Senator Bushmaker. |
| 00:38:52.81 | Sandra Bushmaker | Good evening, everybody. Good to see you all. |
| 00:38:52.85 | Joan Cox | Do you need it? |
| 00:38:55.55 | Sandra Bushmaker | A couple of things that occurred to me while I was listening to the staff report. Does our new ordinance for ADUs and JADUs up. applied to SB9 lot splits. and has that SB9 lot split law. And is it... integrated into our new ordinance? Or are we gonna be back to the drawing board again when we get an SB9 application? That's one question. The other question is, it's obvious to me that we need to resurrect the short-term rental enforcement in the city. If current ADUs and JADUs are being used for short term rentals, and believe me, I have seen advertisements, I check pretty regularly. We are behind in that issue. And I would just like to bring that up as a possibility for further action. Thank you. |
| 00:39:51.49 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you, Sandra. |
| 00:39:56.18 | Walfred Solorzano | I'm saying no comments. |
| 00:39:56.40 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. Okay. And there's no public comment from within the chamber. So we will closed public comment at this time. So I believe the direction from staff or the request for direction is that we do a first reading of the ordinance and the direction that I'm also additionally hearing is consideration of parking rules going forward and a consideration of the amnesty applications being revisited. Yes, Councilmember Cox. |
| 00:40:22.13 | Joan Cox | Can I ask that staff or the city attorney address the question about SB 9 just so that the public is aware of the interplay between our ordinance and SB 9? |
| 00:40:34.37 | Sergio Rudin | Yes, I will try to field that one. The city has adopted SB 9 regulations. SB 9 includes two provisions. One allows for someone to put a two unit development on a single family lot ministerially without undertaking a lot split. As part of that, they're also allowed to avail themselves of whatever state ADU law allows them to develop in terms of ADUs. With respect to urban lot splits, the city is supposed to ministerially approve a lot split application to split a lot in two. If someone develops two units on the each of the split lots or either of the split lots, then the city is not required to allow further ADUs to be developed. on those split lots that are making use of the two unit development provisions of SB 9. |
| 00:41:32.18 | Sergio Rudin | So short answer, the city is required to adopt new ADU regulations under state ADU law. That is what's before the council tonight. Um, this will work in parcel and in work in hand with the city's existing SB 9 regulations. |
| 00:41:51.93 | Steven Woodside | Okay. Thank you for that clarification, Sergio. So again, bringing it up to the full council here for consideration. the direction and request as we heard from staff is that we adopt the ordinance in the first reading but also take into account the direction that was mentioned by Council Member Cox with regards to amnesty. and consideration for future parking requirements separate from the ordinance. Is there anything that anyone else would like to weigh in on or add with regards to our adoption of the ADU ordinance? |
| 00:42:23.47 | Joan Cox | I will note that although the word amnesty is deleted, There is a provision that does follow the state requirement that we cannot deny a permit for previously for ADUs built before 2018. |
| 00:42:45.18 | Steven Woodside | Okay, great. All right, so then I think at this point we need to make a motion to adopt the first reading of the ordinance. So I'm happy to go ahead and make that motion. |
| 00:43:02.92 | Ian Sobieski | It's that. |
| 00:43:03.88 | Sergio Rudin | motion to introduce by title only ordinance number 05-2023, an ordinance of the City Council of the City of Sausalito Amending Table 10.22-1, section 1044-080, and section 1044-085 of Title 10 of the Sausalito Municipal Code. and to waive further reading. |
| 00:43:23.62 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 00:43:26.41 | Walfred Solorzano | All right. Councilmember Cox. |
| 00:43:28.32 | Alice Merrill | Yes. |
| 00:43:29.58 | Walfred Solorzano | on Summer Hoffman. |
| 00:43:30.63 | Alice Merrill | Yes. |
| 00:43:31.82 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Cummins? Yes. Vice Mayor Sobieski? Yes. Mayor Blasdine? |
| 00:43:33.80 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 00:43:37.46 | Steven Woodside | Yes. Okay. Motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much for that. And now we will move on to our business items for this evening. |
| 00:43:44.85 | Joan Cox | Can I just clarify, we did do it as amended with the transit stop language? |
| 00:43:55.45 | Sergio Rudin | We can certainly re-vote on that, and I think that would be helpful. |
| 00:43:59.65 | Joan Cox | Okay. It's a small thing, but. Okay. |
| 00:44:03.50 | Sergio Rudin | So motion to introduce by title only, as previously stated, with an amendment to the public transit language to replace every place in the ordinance that public transit appears with public transit stuff. |
| 00:44:17.30 | Steven Woodside | Okay. So moved. Second. |
| 00:44:20.97 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 00:44:21.03 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. City Clerk, will you please call the roll? |
| 00:44:25.64 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilman Rukak. |
| 00:44:26.43 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 00:44:27.43 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Hoffman. |
| 00:44:29.08 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 00:44:29.67 | Walfred Solorzano | Council Member Cohen. |
| 00:44:30.53 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 00:44:30.55 | Walfred Solorzano | you Vice Mayor Sobieski? Yes. And Mayor Blostein? |
| 00:44:33.71 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, motion carries unanimously, and we will move back to our business items and we will continue on with 5A, which is a presentation on our first phase parking study from Dixon Resources Unlimited. for purposes of city council direction. So we will be hearing from Director McGowan, it seems. Do we have a representative from Dixon with us as well? |
| 00:44:52.28 | Kevin McGowan | We do. So good evening, Mayor Blauste and members of the City Council. Again, I'm Kevin McGowan, Public Works Director. Also with us this evening is our acting police chief, Stacey Gregory, and I'm hoping she can step up to answer some questions as well. Item 5A before you this evening is a presentation from Dixon Resources Unlimited regarding the downtown parking study. Julie Dixon from Dixon Resources Unlimited will be making the presentation. Included with your agenda packet is a copy of the parking study. Parking Study. Julie Dixon from Dixon Resources Unlimited will be making the presentation. Included with your agenda packet is a copy of the parking study for your review. And with that, I'll turn it over to Julie. |
| 00:45:29.14 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Thank you, everyone. I'm going to go ahead and share my screen. Bear with me just one moment here. This is where the technical fun starts. Here we go. Terrific. One more step here and then I should be good to go. Can everyone see my screen okay? Yes. Okay, thank you so much. So my name is Julie Dixon. Thank you so much for having us here tonight. So what we're basically going to present here to you today is that high level findings from our parking assessment. And this is an initial response here. It included comparable cities analysis of your parking rates. We also included in the packet was the assessment itself. We also conducted parking utilization data collection over the Labor Day weekend, including the Thursday before and the Saturday. And we also did a needs assessment, especially with some technology recommendations. And also in addition, we had submitted a draft on some municipal code changes earlier this summer and went through the rest of the code too to make any recommendations associated with the code. and prepared a parking memorandum that included policy recommendations that could be considered for implementation in the immediate and future terms. So when we talked about the comparable cities analysis, here on the left side is a sampling of the cities that we looked at. And I think it's helpful to understand that Sausalito is on the higher end of the comparison for hourly rates as well as special event rates. But that's important too when we talk about maximizing the strategies to help reduce congestion and to basically manage your parking facilities, as well as encouraging folks to consider alternative forms of transportation. One of the things that's particularly worth noting is the fact that your on-street parking rates are actually lower than your off-street parking rates in your parking lots, basically. That's really important to highlight because it's actually a bit backwards from what the industry recommendations are. Your on-street parking is your premium parking locations. And what you want to make sure that you're doing is that you're charging that premium rate for that on-street, that quick turn of those parking spaces, because you want folks to seek out the longer-term parking locations for the more affordable parking spots. So that's something that's a particular note, especially when we talk about the utilization and occupancy. for your parking locations is because you might find that folks are basically circling the blocks looking for those premium spaces because they are more affordable. And that's where we see some of that imbalance when it comes to your off street parking locations and the utilization of those. I also like for folks to understand when we talk about industry best practices, there's a couple of things we talk about making data driven decisions. is that 85% is the measure for basically when you're near or at capacity. And so you always want to try to really hit that 85% target. And when you're consistently hitting that target, it basically means that it's time to make parking management changes. That could be in hours of operation, time limits, or also in paid parking rates. And down here on the chart that you see at the bottom are the utilization of the actual current parking rates. I really want to emphasize that this is something that I do think that the city has done very well. When we talk about leveraging the rates as it relates to utilization and trying to impact behavior, because that is an important fact that we like to talk about. When we talk about parking, it's really about changing behavior. And so I do think that the city has very effectively introduced these rates. We just like to highlight the fact that, again, it's a bit opposite with the off-street rates being the more expensive, because typically, again, the longer-term rate is something that would be a little bit more affordable, and the on-street being that premium location. So when we actually completed the utilization study, we actually utilized license plate recognition technology so that not only could we capture the information associated with occupancy, but we also were able to capture utilization data as well that helps to define and identify basically how long the cars are staying for, But now it's important also to highlight is that we didn't actually capture user profiles or what we like to call Parker profiles. So knowing like who's parking there, is something that we don't have from this particular type of data collection process. And it's something that really does rely more upon surveying and being able to get the information out there to understand where your folks are going, whether they're employees, whether they're visitors for the short term or whatever that case may be. So we talk about the utilization data collection area. You'll see the areas highlighted on the left side of the screen. for where we actually collected the data. I wanted to call out a note that we utilized of the Yacht Club parking lot location rather than utilizing a lot five in the study, just so that we could again leverage what that utilization was in that particular spot. And I think I wanted to be sure to note that everyone understands that the Yacht Club is only accessible through parking lot one. And you can see that for the on-street locations, all the areas that are highlighted, that there was a hundred there are 187 total on-street parking spaces and 173 of those are paid parking spaces. And the remaining balance are ADA locations, loading zones and time limited zones. And for the city lots one through four, 473 parking spaces located throughout that area. So if you'll remember that 85% number, which is an important number to keep in mind, The real key takeaways from this is that over that weekend, Saturday, during that early dinner hour, that's really where we observed the highest level of occupancy on street at 83%. And then the aggregate for the average for the off-street locations, your parking lots, was 58%. And again, that was primarily during the lunch hour, 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. on that Saturday of Labor Day weekend. So, but I also want to call out that while the statistics or the numbers may not seem as high as maybe we would have expected, We also like to call out that utilizing the tools that we did, we went out and collected data basically five times throughout the day on each of those days. And one of the things that you can see just by the color coding, is that all of the locations that you see highlighted in red all hit peak occupancy at various times of the day. So we like to call that out, is that while when you look at the aggregates and the numbers may not be as high as one would expect, it's really relevant to highlight the fact that you are hitting your peaks consistently throughout the day. Again, I know this comes as no surprise to you. And you did have one off-street location that exceeded the 85% occupancy during the study, and that was in parking lot three during the 11 a.m. collection. And that's something, too, I want to highlight that the employee parking permits really being relevant in lots three and four. It's something that we like to really identify and call out the fact that we do hit our caps consistently, it seems, in those locations basically by about noon, and we really are seeing that those locations are very well utilized with those employee parking permits in those particular locations as well. So the ultimate conclusions at this point, as we talk about the data that was collected, again, is just to reemphasize that the on-street parking is overutilized compared to the off-street parking. So when we talk about those rates and kind of the imbalance of the rates, there is an opportunity to make some policy changes as it relates to those rate structures so that that could ultimately have an impact on, again, parker behaviors. So I'd like to touch on now are some of the recommendations that were based on the assessment that was completed. And again, I know this comes as no surprise to the council, but the issues of the cell coverage that we have in the downtown area is something that's really impactful on the parking program. And I'm sure many of you have had this experience as you utilize the technology in various parts of the downtown. The fact is, is that as technology improves and as the city has made investments in improvements to the technology, the reality is the more smart the equipment comes, the more we have to rely upon those cellular signals. And that's something that's really affecting our ability to manage the program. And it's also something of particular importance because our parking enforcement officers have to leverage parking technology to validate payment status and to be able to actually issue notices, warnings or citations. And that's really a particular challenge when we talk about some of the impacts of the cellular coverage. And it's actually preventing us from leveraging certain technology features and some of the technology that we have, as well as some of those longer term strategies. And one of the things that if we had improved cellular coverage in the downtown, it would actually help enable the parking program to not only leverage license plate recognition technology for both enforcement and ongoing data collection. and that's a really important tool as we talk about efficiencies, especially when we talk about staff coverage. for both enforcement and ongoing data collection. And that's a really important tool as we talk about efficiencies, especially when we talk about staff coverage, basically being able to cover more ground more efficiently. but also with the transition to what we like to call permit by plate or virtual permits. It basically would enable the city to be able to more effectively manage the parking permit program, as well as allowing your residents and your customers to be able to leverage online technology to coordinate their parking experience, and also the transition to pay-by-place. Something that's of particular importance as we look across the parking industry is that as more people are utilizing their cell phones to be able to pay by phone or pay by text, the challenge with those signal limitations is the fact that not even your customers are able to, in some cases, be able to make that connection. And it's one of the reasons why we haven't been able to expand the mobile program across the downtown is because of those cellular coverage issues and the ability to transition your program to be a plate based solution. It allows for us to be more efficient on our coverage time. And again, providing more real time information. Being able to promote parking availability and where parking is available That cellular coverage is something that is quite impactful and, as we know, has been for a while, but it's something that as we want to really move the needle and really improve our customer experience as it relates to parking management, it's something that really needs to be addressed to help us be more effective, especially in our downtown area. Now, when we talk about the on-street and off-street parking recommendations, I've already mentioned the cellular signal and the impact that it has there. but our equipment is It's getting old, it's aging, and we're at a position now that we need to upgrade and or replace the equipment. There are some opportunities and we don't have to have the debate of single space meter versus pay station here. But what you are seeing is the fact that a lot of municipalities are starting to minimize the single space parking spaces or single space parking meters and utilizing more kiosk style even for on street. only because of the fact that now with the utilization of mobile and pay by text, you still provide that infrastructure, but it basically takes up less street furniture. And those are some of the considerations that the city could have as we talked about having to replace that equipment. It's also less cost on the infrastructure, less maintenance, etc. That these could be conveniences that could be introduced to Sausalito as a benefit. We've also identified some locations that we are recommending to be able to extend the paid parking locations. If anyone had a chance to read the report, we were able to identify for on-street south of Bridgeway from 525 Bridgeway to Tiffany Park. It's about 40 spaces, and it's a location that we were talking about having a two-hour time limit paid with a residential parking permit exemption and no overnight parking restrictions. And then there's also the opportunity of being able to leverage parking lot five, which is currently free with a three-hour time limit. And it's a location that we could definitely take advantage of in transitioning that into the program while still supporting employee parking. And then also the opportunity to implement a special event rate. And as part of the on-call agreement, we prepared a draft ordinance and some other municipal codes, like I mentioned earlier, regarding some updates for the municipal codes for on-street parking. And I know that that's being, I think, reviewed by staff at this point in time. We also have the recommendation to generate a pilot demonstration with license plate recognition technology. And again, that really does tie into the cellular coverage in and around the downtown. and that opportunity to expand mobile payment to on-street, provides another convenience to your residents and customers so people can self-manage their parking experiences utilizing their phones. And that's something that, again, with that expansion and improvement on cellular coverage would provide you some very, what I call, low-hanging fruit opportunities to really improve the parking experience. So now when we talk about the parking permits, some of you may already be aware of the fact that as we're transitioning our residential parking permit program online and basically helping make it easier for residents to be able to self-manage their parking permits, We're looking to expand that technology to also include employee parking permits as well as the hotel parking permits so that that way they actually can be managed and rely less on staff time so that the employees and merchants and commuters basically can leverage their programs online. And it's also important that there's some policy recommendations that we want to make sure are tied in to these improvements on the technology is that currently most communities require proof of eligibility to participate in some of these programs. And one of those things could be having to provide proof of employment to be able to qualify for some of these more affordable parking permits. And so it's things like that, that we just want to make sure that we don't have the different Parker profiles utilizing benefits from a parking permit that are intended for a merchant or an employee versus a commuter. So those are factors that we want to tie in and that's where the city was able to actually take advantage of a current vendor agreement that you already have for your citation management company and have leveraged that to be able to implement the automated parking permit management system. ideally for the long term, we would be virtual. where you wouldn't have to have permits in your window or having to have hang tags or decals on your car. |
| 01:01:23.64 | Chris Zapata | or |
| 01:01:25.57 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | But again, we're not quite there yet. But we're setting up the roadmap for that process to be able to come out with supported by more community outreach. But this is definitely having the tools in place so that it can be managed more efficiently and effectively by staff. I believe we're here at the last slide here. is that when we do talk about the Sausalito Ferry Landslide Improvement Project. When we talk about the potential impacts of lot one, Right now, we can highlight the fact that we know that there will be revenue and congestion impacts, but the biggest challenge that we have right now until we know how many parking spaces we're talking about having that impact. We really don't have those financial projections yet and that's something that as that project goes along we're prepared to be able to help support those initiatives. Moving forward and so with that i've included my email address on here, so that if anybody has any questions, but I will stop share my screen. and wait for your directions. |
| 01:02:29.57 | Steven Woodside | Thank you so much, Julie. I appreciate it. I see we already have some questions here from the dais. That was a great presentation. We'll start with Councilmember Cox and then go to Vice Mayor Sobieski. I see you both have your hand raised. |
| 01:02:40.34 | Joan Cox | Thank you, Mayor. And thank you, Ms. Dixon, for that. report. I did have a few questions. I noticed that you listed seven cities, and I was wondering how those cities were chosen. You know, Miami has a population of 500,000. Sausalito has 7,000. Similar, Oakland, Berkeley, San Francisco, these are all huge cities. And so I was wondering what the barometer was for choosing cities and why we didn't consider cities like Carmel or other small tourist-driven water areas. neighbor cities. |
| 01:03:20.75 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Yeah, no, that's a very great question. Thank you for asking it. And the reality is cities like Carmel actually don't have paid parking yet. You might be surprised to find that out. And so one of the reasons why some of the locations were selected regionally And I think when you look at some of the other ones, when it was Miami, it was actually Miami Beach. So I just wanted to highlight that as well. So when you talk about kind of that narrow strip of land in Miami Beach is actually quite small. And it's interesting, I asked the same question about why we included Miami Beach, but it was that very unique profile of Miami Beach and its size and its density and the popularity and the amount of vehicle traffic that comes in, that that was one of the cities that actually had the most comparison to Sausalito. So it was definitely a unique one. But I did want to highlight that some of those other beach side, water side communities, it was very hard to find one that actually had paid parking. And that was something we really wanted to make sure that we were able to do was to be able to make those financial comparisons. And that's where when you look at Monterey and Santa Cruz in particular, those locations being, again, tourist impacted locations as well, larger than Sausalusalito but we were trying to come up with really those closest matches but also somewhere in that northern California-ish area too so that we could have some similar comparisons. |
| 01:04:53.72 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Similar question, Labor Day, a lot of people leave town. So how did we choose Labor Day as the day to measure the use, the Labor Day weekend as the days to measure parking uses? |
| 01:05:07.98 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | So while we know that your residents leave, the reality is your tourist impact on the Labor Day weekend is one that you bring a lot of people into the community. And I want to highlight the fact that when we talk about that particular sampling, it was intentionally selected to see what that actual holiday weekend impact is or was. And I want to reinforce that this is another reason why we think that you having license plate recognition technology ongoing will be so relevant because then you will have data. Every time those cars go out on the street and every time your parking enforcement staff is out on the road with those cameras on, you're actually able to collect data. And I will tell you that communities that have been able to leverage that technology You will have samplings by time of day, day of the week. time of year. And so it won't ever be these just one offs any longer. And you'll have that comprehensive data. And I think that this will be really critical when we talk about parking management in the future for Sausalito. It's going to be absolutely relevant for how you make data-driven decisions in the future. And it's something that, again, I know that this is just a sampling, but the holiday weekend was selected intentionally to really see what those tourism impacts were. But I do want to say that the opportunity to do this on an ongoing basis is something that, honestly, you won't need parking consultants like us because you'll have the data all by yourself on an ongoing basis with something that honestly, you won't need parking consultants like us, because you'll have the data all by yourself on an ongoing basis with that investment in LPR technology. |
| 01:06:37.36 | Joan Cox | So that does bring me to my next question, which has to do with license plate reader technology. When we adopted our ordinance enabling license plate reading in town, there were very many concerned residents about how we would collect and use that data. And it was my understanding that our license plate reader ordinance only allowed certain very limited police purposes for use of the license plate reader technology. And so I'm wondering what permission or how you were authorized to use license plate reader technology. And if we're gonna expand the use of that, I think that's something we need to bring to our residents. And I think that's a huge invasion of privacy. And I know there are many residents who agree. So I would hate to have my shopping patterns tracked based on my license plate, so as an example. |
| 01:07:38.15 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | I'd like to highlight when we talk about the license plate data collection. It's important when we talk about the utilization and how long the cars are staying. It's important to recognize that for the license plate readers, there's no lookup of any information associated with that vehicle. It's simply the identifier of that parking experience and utilizing the technology that we did, we actually translate those license plates so that if your license plate was ABC 123 it's actually aggregated and translated and basically there's an information key that if this information was Well, it's not public, but I was just going to say, if the information was basically published, it's not the actual license plates that the cameras captured. But I do appreciate your comments, and it's something that I've definitely had to address all across the country for that matter. But what I really like to share with folks is that when we talk about the technology and the readers, they're not actually looking up any information. It's simply the identifier of that vehicle. And it's absolutely, when we talk about data-driven decisions, being able to understand the utilization for how long cars are parking and where they're parking, it absolutely helps us when we talk about policy recommendations. Because oftentimes you have situations where there could be business owners or employees who are juggling maybe the on-street parking spaces or some of the two-hour time limits to try to avoid having to buy a parking permit. And those are things that do come out as a result of a utilization study like that. But I do appreciate your concerns, but that information was solely used to be able to aggregate the data for occupancy and utilization. And basically the plates are translated and basically it's how we were able to identify all the statistics that we shared. |
| 01:09:36.93 | Joan Cox | I thought you had made mention of identifying geography, where people came from and things of that nature. |
| 01:09:43.38 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | That's what was asked for. That was one of the things that we had some feedback of people wanting to understand what we call the Parker profile, like who went where, how long, and that's why we highlighted we did not capture that information. That takes on a whole different level of information of trying to ascertain that. And in fact, we did not do this, but many communities will actually install cameras for that case to be able to see the direction that pedestrians leave parking lots to determine where they went, you know, all of those factors. That was not part of this project. And being able to define the users of your parking spaces, it's actually a pretty complex and frankly, really expensive process. We just wanted to make sure that everybody understood that was not part of this study and we just wanted to make sure everybody grasped that. |
| 01:10:36.06 | Joan Cox | When you made your recommendations regarding on street parking, did you consider the fact that the median age of Sausalito residents is 60 years old? And so they would appreciate being able to park closer to the business that they're visiting, as opposed to walking from lot three or four, for example. |
| 01:10:59.25 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | So regardless of age, I just want to highlight the fact when we talk about parking, it's definitely about equitability for all. And what I was only trying to highlight was the fact that your on-street parking rates are cheaper than your off-street parking rates. And that's basically the opposite of how municipalities are supposed to manage their parking. But so for that shorter term parking experience, and then don't forget, you also have the shopper card for the residents as well to be able to take advantage of that program too. But I also want to reinforce that if we are speaking of maybe older folks, I want to highlight that at a parking meter, you can park with a disabled placard and you are not required to pay at that parking meter as well. So those are factors that that's per the California vehicle code as well. So that's not any exception in Sausalito either, but we're simply we're trying to highlight the fact that the rates are basically opposite of what they typically should be when we talk about that on street premium versus the off street. |
| 01:12:08.48 | Joan Cox | Just a couple more questions regarding your recommendation to allow overnight parking in certain areas. Were you aware that we have struggled in areas with our overnight parking being utilized by homeless vehicles that we have a hard time abating. |
| 01:12:27.93 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | So I think when we talk about the overnight parking, it was based on the residential parking permit exemptions. I am very familiar with the overnight parking challenges throughout the state of California. And so I just really want to reassure the fact that when we talk about the overnight parking exemptions, it truly is affiliated with your residential parking permit program. And I think I just wanted to reinforce that for you. |
| 01:12:51.72 | Joan Cox | I'm in. |
| 01:12:51.80 | Stacey Gregory (Acting Police Chief) | Yeah. |
| 01:12:55.57 | Joan Cox | Okay. And then I was curious, this is maybe a question for Kevin, I know that we undertook a study with ACE and then we undertook this study with Dixon. Our staff report simply said that we utilize, that we had available $188,000 from SWA. But I was curious to know what we spent on ACE and what we spent on Dixon. I don't recall approving this contract. So maybe it was a de minimis amount. |
| 01:13:30.28 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. I can weigh in on that if you'd like. So the reference to the $188,000 is in reference to the amount that the council authorized in 2021 for a downtown concept. The work that was done by ACE, which was a start, was a $6,000 contract issued under city manager authority. The work that's done by Dixon is a $30,000 contract separate and a restart initiated and approved by city manager authority. So the ACE experiment didn't prove fruitful. We felt that parking is something that is that important to Sausalito. This conversation is well past time for having been had. And so I authorized the police department and public works department to integrate Dixon into a contract which we let under my authority and they've complied with and this is the work that they produced. |
| 01:14:25.10 | Joan Cox | I will say the reason for my question is I can't believe this work was done for $30,000. This is an impressive amount of data and analysis. So that's why I thought that with the $188,000 reference in the staff report was what made me think we had spent more. I'm truly impressed with the value that we got for $30,000. And that's the end of my questions. |
| 01:14:50.16 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, Councilmember Cox, and now Vice Mayor. |
| 01:14:53.76 | Ian Sobieski | Thanks. you Yeah, this was really great. We have been talking about getting a grip on, our city finances and this is a major revenue stream. Actually, I got a text from someone who will remain nameless, but my colleagues can guess. Her name begins with Jay. And she's like, God, this is such a snoozer. When is it going to get good? And I actually think this is actually the opposite. I'm super excited by the work you just reported here today. When we want to do more with less, a great way is to get revenue from our business model. And if we can figure out how to do that, then we can have better services. So I'm very interested in how to balance all the things that my colleague, Joan Cox, outlined. So, but I still would just like to learn from your report. Can you tell me, well, maybe starting with the endpoint, you made a bunch of recommendations and I'm just curious, What's the process for actually implementing them? What do maybe this is even a question for Kevin McGowan or someone else like are we going to get a set of specific recommendations to implement or is there another phase of this study that needs to be done do we need to get. Are you recommending getting more data to get a different grip on this, or are we ready to take action on some of these recommendations. |
| 01:16:15.28 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Director, did you want to start first or did you want me? |
| 01:16:19.74 | Kevin McGowan | Well, let's tag team this. So, you know, there are some recommendations in the report, such as improving our electronic capability downtown and maybe putting in, and I am not an electrical engineer, so if I get this wrong, please forgive me. If we put in, is it a cell site or is it a tower or something like that? If we put in something to actually boost the ability to get the this technology up and running, we would need to place it on the capital improvement program, or at least do some investigation first to figure out how much is it, what's it going to take to get there. So we have a, if we want to move forward with something like that, it'll take some strategy to figure out what are our next steps. There are, like you said, there are many recommendations in the report itself. And I'm hoping Julie can at least talk about some of the low hanging fruit that she may be aware of in the report itself. And then maybe go into some of the more substantial improvements that might be needed. And I think I hit on one of them, which is to improve our ability to improve our technology there. Julie? |
| 01:17:29.82 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Yes, absolutely. Thank you so much. And we know that the cell coverage is obviously a big option that that's something that will have a major impact on basically your program across the downtown. So there are absolutely a couple of immediate opportunities when we talked about the opportunity to leverage license plate recognition technology. Obviously there's conversations that have to be had and if there's any policy updates that have to happen. But as we talk about that, the opportunity for the city to actually run a competitive RFP process for parking technology partners. You have had the vendors for quite some time. The equipment has definitely lived out its useful life at this point. And the opportunity to run a competitive procurement. Many of you might recall when we did the demonstration in lot one years ago with all the different pay station vendors, The technology has improved substantially and the opportunity to expand your program leveraging mobile payments When we talk about low hanging fruit opportunities, you actually have several of them that can actually have an immediate impact on the customer experience. I also mentioned the fact of having the discussion when we talk about this competitive RFP process for parking technology actually evaluating the opportunity of again minimizing the single space meters and leveraging pay stations throughout the on street locations. Not only will that provide you a substantial cost savings on hardware and infrastructure and ongoing support costs, but also the customer convenience factors of being able to expand that mobile payment footprint basically throughout the entire downtown and now with the advent and introduction of pay-by-text. That's something that you all really don't have today, except in some cases for people parking in the parking lots that want to be able to extend their time or using the mobile application. Some of these new features are very convenient and easy for customers to use, and it really does improve the ability. The easier you can make it for people to follow the rules, the better it is on your bottom line and on your revenue. But also with the addition of some of these additional services, you absolutely not only improve the customer connection, but actually also have an impact on your revenue because the easier you can make it for people to pay, the more likely that they are going to pay. And when we also talk about the opportunity to potentially expand some of your paid parking areas, that is definitely an immediate revenue opportunity. and through community outreach and messaging and being able to provide those justifications. I think those are some of the immediate benefits that you can have. I already mentioned the police department has already been in the process of implementing this new online permit management system. And I think that as we get through this initial launch of that with the residential parking permits and we expand that into your merchant and your commuter permits and being able to take all of those features online. These are absolute opportunities. But I do think when we talk about the recommendations, the probably the not probably the heaviest cell coverage, absolutely the heaviest, heaviest list without a doubt. but being able to leverage the parking technology partners, And being able to run that RFP is something that I think will bring not only improvement to the technology and the customer experience, but also that will be one of your biggest costs. But there's ways to again do it in a way that you can also potentially have some long-term cost savings. But there is definitely a comprehensive plan. Some of the items can be done simultaneous and some of them will be predecessors in regards to something having to be done in order for the next item to happen. But the cell coverage is something that That opportunity for your customers to be able to utilize the system regardless of where they're parked, and then the ability for your parking enforcement staff to be able to provide that oversight is really, really critical for your long-term success. Because we also don't want to issue tickets to folks that basically, again, just because they couldn't utilize the system, those are all factors that we want to tie into this program. But there's some immediate things that you can do. And there's also some heavier lift items. But I want to highlight the fact that with your new rate structures as well, it also introduces a lot more flexibility with the new technology for you to be able to leverage the special event rates and the different peak season rates and really make it clear to your customers and residents what the rates are, when they're supposed to pay them, and it really does simplify the process. |
| 01:22:10.62 | Ian Sobieski | Thanks. Do you know how many employees park on any given day in the lots? |
| 01:22:16.42 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | So I know that when we were really talking about lot three, the numbers, I mean, you were really hitting your capacity of those locations, especially lots three and four by basically by noon. I don't have that exact number here in front of me today, and I can definitely pull the number of employee parking permits that you have sold. And I'd be happy to coordinate with staff to be sure to provide you that information and follow up. |
| 01:22:43.02 | Ian Sobieski | So that's kind of my question a little bit. Under the terms of your contract, is there still some capacity to do some work like examining this question of employee parking? |
| 01:22:52.81 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | So we do have a current agreement. So to provide some ongoing support and that's something we can definitely work with the director and the city manager on as well based on whatever direction you all give. |
| 01:23:03.96 | Ian Sobieski | So in other areas, it would be good to, I think, get that number. And I guess we're going to have you back at some point or not sure what the follow up is. after this city manager, Zapata, what is the plan on follow-up with the recommendations and with this report in terms of implementable changes and further consideration? |
| 01:23:22.17 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. it was. So there's multiple phases to the follow-up in my mind, vice mayor and council and members of the public. Number one, getting your input and seeing how you absorb this data is really important. Getting the questions in the areas of interest that you have is really important. Making sure that we get our parking manager position through the background checks and onboard is really important to this process. And then bringing back to you recommendations that align with what we're hearing tonight, with what we think as a staff, we need to do working with each other. And then if there is in fact a need to extend or create a new contract for funding to do more work, we'll have a handle on that. And we would bring that forward and we would do that in a competitive process. So that's the approach I would take and recommend. |
| 01:24:15.11 | Ian Sobieski | Thanks. And then back to Julie, this employee parking thing, we didn't really talk about it, we made more, but are there other employee parking solutions that are better for the employees? And that I can't help but note that the parking spaces that employees take in. they have to pay for, so it costs them money. And that space could either be taken by a person who, who shops and who pays a lot of more money to the city. So, and that revenue could be used to subsidize some sort of, other parking solution for employees. What are any of those low hanging fruit ideas? |
| 01:24:53.85 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | very. I'm chomping at the bit to give you some information. There's a couple things I want to highlight. When we talk about employee parking programs, One of the things that other communities have done, and this is actually kind of the opposite of what you just described, but I want to reinforce this. Oftentimes, we've been able to implement what we call a low income or service worker parking permit, where in terms of doing some of that comparable cities analysis with proof of wages, you absolutely could qualify for this permit. And it's something that I will tell you has been a big service to a lot of the communities that we work in. Because here's one of the things that's really important when we talk about alternative forms of transportation how we get our employees to our downtown the fact that we do try to put the employees on the perimeter of the parking locations the reality is if we out price our employees and their ability to park somewhere that at least is accessible to the downtown then we're going to have challenges and I'm certain that many of your merchants will share, you know, hiring is so tough in this day and age right now and being able to retain good employees. So the fact is you need to bring employees to the table in this conversation and making sure that we have affordable options for them. But ideally, again, on the perimeter locations, I do think that there's some opportunities for you to be able to work on your pricing. But I do think there's an opportunity also for you to consider a low income or service worker option, because I think that that's something that's really important to a downtown like yours is that without the employees, our businesses can't run. And so it's an important seat at the table that they need to be there. And I do think that there's an opportunity when we start to talk about ways that we can also move people into the downtown is something that's really important as well. Some communities have gotten as far as introducing employee shuttles. So finding perimeter locations that they can then shuttle them in right now because your downtown is so walkable and lot five, you know, really isn't that far, but that is an important consideration when we talk about how to manage this. And the reality is if we're not offering an affordable solution for maybe some of our, you know, minimum wage employees, the reality is then they're just going to game the process as they may do this today. And they'll juggle the time limits on street. They'll go out and move their cars on the brakes. And I mean, I always say that there's cookie cutter problems, just not cookie cutter solutions. And the reality is, well, I can't put my finger on it and say this is absolutely happening in Sausalito. Based on the time that I've been there, I would speculate that that is a part of a challenge. And so rather than basically allowing those folks to continue that kind of behavior, we need to bring them to the table and find a solution that's balanced and again, that they are enabled to participate in the program as well. I know that was a long-winded answer, but I do hear you. on the revenues, but I do think that there's an opportunity to look at that balance of what all of the different employee parking permit rates should be in comparison to your other rates as well. And we really should also look at your commuter permits, because when you talk about primetime parking in lot one in particular with your commuter permits, those are also things that we could start to talk about things like tiered pricing permits as well. And I do have a note that just came in to show me my employee parking right now. |
| 01:28:20.72 | Chris Zapata | And I do... |
| 01:28:26.43 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | You currently have 44 active employee D permits and you have 42 active employee L permits. And so that's important when you start to talk about the quantification of how many employees you have in your downtown. I would suggest that that sampling is quite small compared to how many employees work in your downtown area. And so my suggestion would be in those next phases of the program that that would be something to work, especially with your merchant associations, your chamber, your downtown business groups to be able to start to tackle this issue. because oftentimes in a community like yours, that is something that can have a critical impact and then trying to provide those alternative transportation options to is a real win for community like yours as well. |
| 01:29:17.66 | Ian Sobieski | Okay, I've just one last set of questions and it's around the table. I don't know what page it is, but it's entitled average occupancy by zone and time of day. I don't know if you could put that up. |
| 01:29:28.96 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Find it here, Bear with me. |
| 01:29:30.60 | Ian Sobieski | 5. |
| 01:29:31.02 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Thank you. |
| 01:29:31.09 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:29:32.29 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Guy Cowardy. Yeah, standby. Do you see the slides again? |
| 01:29:36.93 | Ian Sobieski | No. |
| 01:29:38.33 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Okay, let me figure it out. |
| 01:29:38.50 | Ian Sobieski | No. |
| 01:29:39.88 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Stand by when you figure out what I did here. Hold on one second. |
| 01:29:45.57 | Ian Sobieski | let me see according to Councilmember Hoffman and |
| 01:29:53.06 | Ian Sobieski | So it's the table with the percentages on Thursday and Saturday night. |
| 01:29:56.25 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 01:29:57.38 | Ian Sobieski | through the course of the day. |
| 01:29:58.16 | Joan Cox | That one? |
| 01:29:58.65 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. Yeah. Can you make it bigger? |
| 01:30:00.72 | Joan Cox | Yep. |
| 01:30:03.64 | Ian Sobieski | Do you see it? I was kind of shocked and really surprised by this. So first off, I know, I guess this is aggregate of all the parking lots, right? It's not a particular parking lot. |
| 01:30:12.72 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Thank you. Yeah, when you look, so when you look at this, basically like this map, this is basically your collection area. So when you, it's important when you look at these numbers that I want to really highlight the fact that, again, this is the average. When you look at that far right side for all lots one through four, as well as the Yacht Club. So when you look at these numbers, and I'll have to go back to the report to see if we provided the individual by lot. We wanted to obviously encapsulate everything into one. But that's why we also wanted to provide that peak number to show that all of your locations pretty much were hitting that 85% or greater number at certain times of the day. But this is definitely the aggregate. And for off-street, it's lots one through four and the Yacht Club. |
| 01:30:59.45 | Ian Sobieski | Okay, so that's something I'm not putting together in my head. So these numbers, there's only one number that comes close to 85%. That's Saturday on the street. But that's the aggregate across all odds. So I'm not sure how to read this. Are we saying that? |
| 01:31:06.69 | Joan Cox | Right. |
| 01:31:15.43 | Ian Sobieski | that we have relatively, we're close to 85% across all the lots most of the day, or- |
| 01:31:20.47 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | So on average, basically what you saw on Saturday across basically for on street for those parking spaces that we captured on Saturday between five to seven, the aggregate across those 170 plus parking spaces was 83% occupancy. And then when you basically flip it onto five to seven for off street, we were at 37% between five and seven for parking lots one through four and the yacht club. |
| 01:31:52.81 | Ian Sobieski | to I'll just ask you again. So we know we're close to 85%. through most of the day. on Thursday and Saturday. That's how I'm reading this. Am I reading that wrong? |
| 01:32:04.89 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | No, you're reading it correctly, but this is why I wanted to highlight this particular slide as well, is that you can see where you see the red spots. You are hitting peak capacity at different times of the day. But again, this is the average, but we also like to highlight the fact that when you're hitting peak, that's also an important number to recognize. But for when you look at the aggregate on this Saturday when this data was collected, utilizing this 5 to 7 p.m. time, you can see that your on-street capacity was close to maximum. And then you have your 37% for lots 1 through 4 and the op clubs. |
| 01:32:47.58 | Ian Sobieski | So we all have the experience of driving around parking lot number one and not being able to find a parking space. And so I'm trying to reconcile that experience with this data where the percentages seem to suggest that we're far from even half, well, we're around half capacity to a two thirds capacity on average across most of our lots. Thank you. |
| 01:33:09.96 | Brandon Phipps | And the other... |
| 01:33:10.04 | Ian Sobieski | And the other graph showed green on lot one and red on lot three. So trying to reconcile my, my experience with. my anecdotal experience with the data and, you know, I believe data. So I was hoping you could help me understand that. |
| 01:33:24.74 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | So this is absolutely a sampling for those days. And one of the things that I would suggest when we talk about this, this is why I do think you all running a license plate recognition technology pilot is so important because you need more data. That's an important process for a community like yours. As you start to talk about parking impacts, parking implications, that you need more data. This is definitely that sampling for that Thursday and that Saturday. But the reality in time is being able to have that ongoing consistency so that you can do your analytics and basically identify again by time of day, day of the week. Having that ongoing resource tool is such a tremendous asset to the communities that have it because it absolutely influences your policies because you have that consistent amount of data collected. And so that's one thing I will tell you from an immediate opportunity to be able to do a pilot demonstration, utilizing license plate license plate recognition technology, you would have a plethora of data. Again, that would just really... a pilot demonstration, utilizing license plate recognition technology, you would have a plethora of data. Again, that would just really start to be able to show you that trend analysis, especially by time, et cetera. |
| 01:34:40.54 | Ian Sobieski | And then my question related to that is this 85%. goal. Is that because that's revenue maximization when you get to 85%? So there's always availability. You haven't completely sold out the airplane. There's always a seat for somebody who wants to buy it. So the theory. |
| 01:34:57.64 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | So the theory is that 85% basically means there will always be one or two parking spaces available. So that is you're basically, you know, coming down Bridgeway, your ability to just pull into a street so that you're not circling the block or going up and down the street or double parking waiting for a space. If you basically are managing your program efficiently based on this occupancy number, it demonstrates that there should always be one or two parking spaces available. I will share with you in another community that the data has really had the impact. is in the city of Seal Beach, where by day of the week, time of day, you name it, I have the occupancy, especially on their main street, which is, again, somewhat similar to Bridgeway, and the ability for me to be able to gauge policy based on the utilization of those parking spaces. And what's been really neat in that particular community, three years ago, you never would have, pre-pandemic, you never would have been able to find a space on main street. And now through the utilization of the occupancy data and some minor policy changes, you now can pull down main street. And there's always a parking space on the block base, which has really been a change in the customer experience. And that's something why we talked about your on-street rates being lower than your off-street rates is that you're basically motivating your customers to try to find that on-street space because the rates are cheaper. |
| 01:36:30.47 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you very much. |
| 01:36:35.01 | Steven Woodside | Thanks, Vice Mayor. Do we have other questions from the dais? Let's go to Councilmember Kelman. We'll circle back to Councilmember Cox. Right. |
| 01:36:43.01 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. Thank you. This is very, very interesting. And I know our job tonight is to give you some direction for our next step. So let's go back to slide eight that you just had up on the screen. I am almost... understanding the overlap between the vice mayor's question and what we see here on the screen, but there's still something missing for me here. And it makes me concerned about having a slide like this in your deck because One may look at this slide and say, Well, those two lots that are green. are probably never full and therefore they could stand to lose spots. That's super easy. And I don't think that's what you're saying. That's how your response was to the vice mayor. So I think rather than having this slide, or in addition to having this slide, you need to have some way to represent why that is not a true statement. And you began to explain that, but I don't think it really hit the full capacity issue that we're driving at, at least not for me. And I'm, I promise I'm following closely, but I still was, there's something not quite there in the representation of it. And this lived experience versus what I'm seeing here is, so fundamentally different. that's very hard to reconcile. And so I don't know what the answer is, but I feel that you probably do because you do this for a living, but this slide doesn't feel like an accurate representation of what we know to be the case But yet what we don't have the case is anecdotal. So I do want it to be backed up by data at the same time. So I just want to register that. And you're welcome to respond or not. I just want to ask you that question in that way. Thank you. |
| 01:38:26.10 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | No, yours is a good question. I just want to really reinforce that I think it's because we do so much work with data that we found that a lot of cities have appreciated this detail because of the fact that when you see on this previous slide, forgive me, when you see on this slide where your averages do seem low, that's an important understanding so that when we see the aggregate because here it's still showing the fact though that you do you are getting close to capacity but i can't reinforce enough the fact that this is a sampling of two days compared to what you all experience on the daily, especially during the summer and spring seasons. And so I think that that's really important as well. But I also want to highlight and reinforce one of the things that you all have done very effectively. |
| 01:38:26.11 | Melissa Blaustein | No. |
| 01:39:20.67 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | was again the implementation of peak versus off peak rates and while I did mention there's an imbalance between on and off street the reality is you have taken measures to improve parking management capacity but this strictly is to demonstrate that |
| 01:39:21.65 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 01:39:37.83 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Basically, all of these locations at one point of one of those rounds of data collection were at peak. And that's what peak meaning 85%. And that's going to be important just from a future reference standpoint. And I can appreciate where the confusion comes in. But this is a number that we have found that other cities have really wanted to appreciate because of the previous slide. And to understand that the averages appear lower than what maybe you've experienced or what the perceptions are. So we just like to show the fact that you are hitting peaks at different times of the day in all of these locations. |
| 01:40:12.91 | Melissa Blaustein | I appreciate that. And from a peak perspective, it makes sense. But from a 50% to 70% capacity, it begins to create some confusion. for us, so I'm not sure how you rectify that on this slide. And I would also say the prior slide that you were showing averages across, I find this data aggregation to also be confusing because we have five lots and they're not all equally close to services. And so to just show me an aggregate across five very different laws of age different geographies, doesn't get me the information recording stop recording in progress |
| 01:40:45.53 | Joan Cox | recording |
| 01:40:48.86 | Melissa Blaustein | Rebecca. It doesn't give me the information that I'm seeking, I think, on a per lot basis. It tells me the overall health of my parking program, but it doesn't help me figure out how to shift some of the burden from one to the next. So I don't know how you – do you have strategies for approaching – Lots certainly based on geographies or proximity to certain services. |
| 01:41:09.82 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | So yes, and in the report, you should find all of the detail by time of day, by location. We simply were trying to be effective in our presentation tonight to be able to provide you the summation of detail, because if we went into each individual location, each individual statistic, we wanted to be obviously respectful of your time. But in our actual report, you actually will have that access and that information to the granularity by location, by block face, by time of day, and what those numbers actually are specific to those locations. We just needed to aggregate the information so that we would be able to reflect some of that summations. |
| 01:41:53.66 | Melissa Blaustein | It makes total sense. I would just caution the use of a slide like this because it could very easily be used down the road to try to make some... predictions around parking behavior that just aren't reflective of the actual consumer dynamics downtown. things like this get passed around as truth, which then they are true, but they're not exactly pinpointed. Let me ask you this. Councilor Cox asked you about why you chose these dates. We do have sales tax data from HDL and our finance directors here. And I'm sorry, Chad, I didn't ask you sooner, but I'm wondering if you had the opportunity to ask the finance director for an overlap of sales tax around the same time period to see if, in fact, more people were actually out of town and not utilizing the downtown area on a holiday weekend or whether there was an uptick in our sales tax or an average sales tax, such that this would be a representative dates to have utilized. And if not, and you don't have to respond unless you have, you probably have it because you always do, but, |
| 01:42:52.75 | Angeline Loeffler | I don't get that granular of data by the day. It's all aggregated by the month is what I have access to. So I wouldn't be able to tell you if sales were higher or lower on a specific date. |
| 01:42:56.05 | Melissa Blaustein | Um, |
| 01:43:04.72 | Angeline Loeffler | I have access to monthly aggregate data. |
| 01:43:07.28 | Melissa Blaustein | So I'll just put a request in because I've been battling HDL since I've been on council. They have that data. |
| 01:43:13.09 | Angeline Loeffler | But daily data. |
| 01:43:13.27 | Melissa Blaustein | But, They, of course they do. They just can't release us specific consumer data or business data, but we'll talk about that offline. But my request would just be, let's make sure this is a representative time frame. All of it is all, okay. So I have questions about methodology, just clarification. You mentioned loading zones. And I'm wondering how you took into account loading zones that stopped being loading zones after a certain hour a day. |
| 01:43:40.54 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Yes, that would be incorporated into the data collection as well. |
| 01:43:44.85 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay. So basically not yet provided for in some of these assessments. So, |
| 01:43:50.03 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | So basically for each, we've identified the exceptional parking spaces like loading zones, ADA spaces, et cetera. So we're actually able to, when I mentioned the utilization data, we actually can also identify how long the cars are staying in those spaces as well. So whether there was a car in a loading zone by time of day, we would have recorded that information. And so that information would be reflective of whatever the rule associated with that space, that would be part of that data analysis basically. |
| 01:44:20.64 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay, so maybe a gap for us. And forgive me, I wasn't quite following the inclusion of the Yacht Club parking. So it's not public parking. City owns it, but this service of the Yacht Club, you have to have a Yacht Club permit. Why was that included in this study? |
| 01:44:40.20 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Let me look back here at my notes just really quick because I do have that. |
| 01:44:43.25 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:44:43.35 | Melissa Blaustein | Council members do I have that wrong, right? |
| 01:44:45.80 | Jill Hoffman | We don't, yeah, and more importantly, we don't make any revenue other than the lease. |
| 01:44:49.58 | Melissa Blaustein | Yes, we would never charge individually for spots in the yacht club. So I'm just curious why that was included. Nor do they charge for parking, right? It's just part of the lease, so. |
| 01:44:55.40 | Jill Hoffman | NORMAL. Thank you. Anyway, sorry. |
| 01:44:59.99 | Joan Cox | I didn't know the Yacht Harbor is used for public parking. Thank you. |
| 01:45:04.45 | Jill Hoffman | And that's, |
| 01:45:04.58 | Joan Cox | And that's. |
| 01:45:05.49 | Jill Hoffman | you |
| 01:45:05.56 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 01:45:05.58 | Jill Hoffman | That's irrelevant. |
| 01:45:05.61 | Joan Cox | So, |
| 01:45:07.03 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. |
| 01:45:07.35 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:45:07.38 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 01:45:07.43 | Jill Hoffman | I'm not. |
| 01:45:07.50 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 01:45:07.67 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:45:09.41 | Melissa Blaustein | I'll just make that as a note. You can file that for a... |
| 01:45:09.43 | Jill Hoffman | So |
| 01:45:09.98 | Joan Cox | Bye. |
| 01:45:10.02 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:45:10.05 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 01:45:14.25 | Melissa Blaustein | Let me ask one more question. So you've talked a little bit about strategies for better data that can help us understand behavior. but I don't quite follow some of the strategies on how to maybe smooth out some of the highs and lows across the different lots. or even just the on street parking like how do I are you suggesting that changing a pricing would then move people off street into a parking lot is that the basic. direction of the |
| 01:45:42.65 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Yep. So a couple of things I wanted to highlight that the Yacht Club parking was included so that we could understand the occupancy. That was one of the requests that was made for the occupancy in those locations. And so when we do talk about those changes in behavior and pricing on street, it's exactly for that is to try to get your on street parkers to park in the parking lots. so that when you see that that is where your peak parking demand really is, by starting to have the inverse where you have the more expensive rates also on. in the parking lots so that when you see that that is where your peak parking demand really is, by starting to have the inverse where you have the more expensive rates also on street, that encourages the folks to go park into the parking lots because it's a more affordable location. So that is something that's proven to be an effective resource and an effective tool to change parking behavior. |
| 01:46:04.52 | Chris Zapata | that was a good thing. |
| 01:46:25.67 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. Nice job. |
| 01:46:30.27 | Steven Woodside | Mayor. Thank you. Councilmember Hoffman, do you have any questions? |
| 01:46:34.31 | Brandon Phipps | I do. |
| 01:46:35.62 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:46:35.64 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 01:46:35.79 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:46:35.98 | Jill Hoffman | I do. So the mystery has the mystery of how employee permits are actually, you know, what the process is, is that written down anywhere? And has that ever been updated? And is it tracked? And is anybody accountable for those permits that are issued? |
| 01:46:52.13 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | So it's hard to detect the level of fraud if there is any. At this point, it's speculative. But right now, the process is a fairly manual process. And so one of the things that's why we do make the recommendation to leverage the automated parking permit system is Your policies are a bit old. They definitely need a refresh. They need to be updated. And I think that the opportunity to leverage the automated permit management system is your opportunity to be able to update those policies. And again, putting some of the onus on the customer to be able to help manage their parking experience, that's something I think that you'll find will also minimize staff requirements as well. And many, many other communities have very successfully launched programs like that. It's just really an effective way to do that. And I do think that that's something too, that by leveraging the automated permit management system and leveraging license plates, remember that that's also something that minimizes things like what we call passback, your ability to like share parking permits, or to be able to kind of push the rules on the system. And so those are some of the things too that unfortunately, because of some of the resources that we have today, it's difficult to track what those abuses are to be able to identify those. And that's why the opportunity for you to start to improve your technology and really tighten up on those resources, you will actually receive a plethora of data as well, so that that really also can help you identify where your parking resources are, how long people are parking for, and maybe where you do need more resources or don't have enough, or where you could push folks towards because you have available parking in those locations. And that's something that, especially for how impacted your community is, especially during your tourist seasons, the ability to help make it easier for people to identify those parking resources. And one of the ways to help do that too is to offset where your employees are parking and really encouraging their participation in those more perimeter locations. |
| 01:49:01.07 | Jill Hoffman | So you said that there were 44 employee, oops, you said 44 employee D permits and 44 active L permits. So 42 L, 42 L, sorry. Did I not get that right? |
| 01:49:12.37 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | 42. Oh, 42. I'm sorry. 44D and 42L. And I also, there's 1,500, roughly over 1,500 daily parking cards also that are active. |
| 01:49:26.55 | Jill Hoffman | And the 1500 daily parking cards, are those the resident parking cards? |
| 01:49:32.59 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | That includes the resident parking cards, yes. |
| 01:49:35.00 | Jill Hoffman | Who else does it include? |
| 01:49:36.93 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | I believe I have to defer. I don't want to misstate this. Commuters and employees also use the daily parking cards as well. Yeah. |
| 01:49:43.86 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. So I think I see that there's a section in your report on page 21 that talks about commuter and employee parking and employee D&L permits, but I would request that those numbers be expanded to include Well, let's see. I'm looking at the daily parking card. Does that include the 1500? |
| 01:50:07.30 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Thank you. |
| 01:50:07.32 | Jill Hoffman | I need to go forward. I'm trying to get a handle on, |
| 01:50:07.67 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | I'm trying to get a handle on it. |
| 01:50:08.77 | Melissa Blaustein | . |
| 01:50:10.76 | Jill Hoffman | how many people have access to reduced parking in our parking lots. So when we're talking about parking as a revenue generating enterprise, the number, each parking spot that's not being used at a full rate indicates that that's revenue loss to the people of Sausalito. And so I, it looks to me like we have some, you know, some work to do here on tightening up, you know, who's using reduced parking and whether or not, you know, our policies and our rules cover that. And then with regard to commuters, the same kind of analysis needs to be done about who's got the cards, how long they have the cards, when the cards expire, and how they're renewed. So, I mean, that goes to your point of doing more of an automated process. more of an automated process seems, may indicate more accountability, but it also may indicate less accountability. If you don't have to- show up at a window. you know, and sign something to renew your card annually. I don't know. I mean, anyway, I see your point, but I want more metrics, right? In the report, because we can't make decisions that we don't have the correct metrics. So |
| 01:51:26.48 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | So they, |
| 01:51:26.90 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:51:26.92 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Thank you. Sorry, today you don't have a verification process in place, and that's part of the challenge. Realistically, anyone can take advantage of the benefit, you know, if they figure out how to do it. So realistically, you don't have a verification process in place today. And that's something why when you do the online permitting process, they actually have to submit their credentials. Like I demonstrated, like through proof of wages, proof of a paycheck, or a letter from an employer. That's what most cities do in order to manage their employee parking permit programs. That is what is lacking today. So basically anyone can qualify for that benefit realistically. And so that's what we're saying is to basically really start to tighten up those procedures. And that's where the policies definitely need to be improved. |
| 01:52:11.15 | Jill Hoffman | So what would you group that in as a direction or tasker? It's explore or research? more avenues for loss of parking revenue or lack of. I would. |
| 01:52:29.32 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | I would simply say improve the permit policy regulations and require proof of employment, proof of whatever discount is required. Whatever discount they're applying for, they have to demonstrate and prove their eligibility for that. Okay. Yeah. |
| 01:52:47.12 | Jill Hoffman | And I would yeah I see I think that's good and then for all classes of discounted parking. I think I would add that because there's also merchant parking and there's also hotel parking. There's lots of different discounted parking. So the other question that I had was I know in the past and I don't I don't recall in your. report if it's in here. We've had presentations of revenue generation almost monthly i think we have monthly if not daily on all of the the two or the four largest revenue generating lots um which are the four downtown and i think that's where we're having this struggle right now with the snapshots that you know that that you just talked about in the um chart of who's parking where on any given day because we know sitting here on the dice that that's not accurate. And I have the same hesitation about including that in a report that People are going to rely on. It's part of the presentation today, so it's given a certain amount of credibility, Um, I is that. just don't believe it. And based on the data that I've seen, and I think that some of the metrics are misleading because if you're showing, you know, less people parking in certain lots, just based on who's in there and not looking at the revenue. If you look at the revenue, it's probably lot three is full because you have the discounted parkers parking in there all day for one fee. And you have a lot more turnover in lots one and two because they're not commuter parkers. So, you know, that's, that's something I think that going forward, we really need to find those. I think Chad might even have them. Nope. Chad said, no, I don't have them. But somebody, I know we have seen those in the past, in the past year. In fact, fact this year we've seen those uh metrics of uh revenue generation from the different lots and i think that's probably a more uh accurate metric that we base our decision making process on so any any work that you do to go into the future i think that's that's a more accurate direction perhaps unless you you have another idea, but you know, we used to have those little discs. Remember that system we had that we paid for and then those guys went bankrupt and all the batteries died and now we can't use it. But if you see, they're still there on the spots where there's a little, there were little sensors and we could look, we had all kinds of data from those and it was awesome. Which frankly may still be useful in some of our decision-making process. So if we have any of those reports that might also be helpful for Julie to look at in the habits of Parker's and Sausalito. So let me look at my notes here. I think I had one more question. |
| 01:55:13.28 | Chris Zapata | and that's it. |
| 01:55:13.36 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 01:55:13.48 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 01:55:33.53 | Jill Hoffman | Um, I think those, those are my questions. Uh, those are my questions right now. Okay. Thanks. Thanks, Julie. |
| 01:55:46.15 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much Councilmember Cox. Yes, you have another question. |
| 01:55:49.80 | Joan Cox | Thank you. I just a follow up. You were talking about. service worker Parker permits for employees. Would you wreck? um, As we're considering changes to the to the fairy, parking lot, businesses are complaining about not enough parking for their visitors as is, as it is without losing more spots. Um, I'm concerned if we raise... rates for on-street parking, it may have an adverse impact on businesses who rely on visitors to patronize their businesses. have you, um, assisted municipalities with a validation process for businesses so that a business could for a price gain some validation or something to allow them to ensure that customers have who purchased something get, discounted parking so that the parking The raised parking rates don't become a disincentive to visit our businesses and to shop in Sausalito. |
| 01:57:14.66 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Absolutely. In fact, a merchant validation program is actually currently available utilizing one of your vendor technologies. And I believe, and I'd have to confirm this, but at one time there were two businesses that were still participating in that program. I'll have to confirm if that is still accurate, but it was basically underutilized as well. But I do that it has been an option available and it is something that many communities have taken advantage of. I will share with you that oftentimes merchant validation becomes really relevant at the launch of a program. But then from an ongoing basis. And I am receiving confirmation that there are currently two businesses participating in that program. And it is something that is available to other merchants if they are interested to be able to coordinate that resource. But I do really want to highlight and reinforce when we talk about that on-street premium parking, I really want to highlight it's that turnover of those spaces. That's why they are time limited. It's so that they can park, experience the downtown, and then turn that space over for the next customer to come in and do the same thing. When you're looking to come to Sausalito to enjoy spend the afternoon or evening, you really are supposed to park in the parking lots. And that's something that that's why when we talk about encouraging those folks to park in the parking lots is really what is ideal so that when you have those folks that need to just run in pick up an item or make that quick stop. That's really when we talk about that on street parking what that experience is, and that's why we want folks to park in the parking lots so that they can stay for the entire day and enjoy themselves without concern, because that's where you have the extended opportunity to obviously stay for the day. |
| 01:59:00.74 | Joan Cox | So as a follow on, are you able to, in your program, distinguish, for example, Caledonia on-street parking from Bridgeway on-street parking? Because Caledonia, shoppers have less access to the parking lots, they're further away than Bridgeway. So lot one and two don't help Caledonia. lot four perhaps, but it's a further distance. And so, can we distinguish our on street parking program by area as opposed to some, you know, blanket rules for on street parking? |
| 01:59:39.18 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | So you definitely can have different zones with different policies. Your technology would support all of that. I think it's important to reinforce that. But I also want to highlight for your typical visitor to your community, whether the rule is this color or that color or this regulation or that regulation, I don't know how effective that would be for your community. The reality is it's a public parking space. So you can't necessarily limit the use of that space that you can only park here if you're visiting the businesses on Caledonia, for example. And I also think the messaging for that would be rather difficult. But I think that while the distance and the perimeter, geographics, locations, obviously are something, that are very relevant. your opportunity of kind of the continuity of your program, I think is really important because it is, you know, it's somewhat, you know, niche and somewhat quaint. And so I think that it would probably be a challenge to have different rules based on the proximity and location, but it's not unheard of. I would just offer your ability to communicate The differences in those policies is something that I think would prove to be a challenge. And honestly, that's one of the things that when we talk about making parky easy, convenient, and accessible, it also has to be simple. And so that's something that I think that, you know, staff could definitely delve into and consider. But it is something that I always like to think about the messaging and how you're communicating those instructions to the general public, because that's really where, you know, you want to make sure it's easy for people to understand. |
| 02:01:24.48 | Joan Cox | Okay, and I think my last question, we talked about service worker Parker permits and requiring you know, employment and wage information, but I'm aware of various businesses that pay for their workers parking. So how would that work? Would the businesses be eligible to still obtain discounted parking for their employees? Since the business won't be able to say, well, I guess the business could say my employee makes $20,000 or $30,000 or whatever minimum wage. So... is there a way to tailor that program so that it's not just available to, um, the employees themselves, but the businesses that hire them. |
| 02:02:13.60 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | We love it when the merchants buy the parking permits. And the fact is, is that we have the type of the technology that the city's invested in. It provides all of those options. Unfortunately, not all merchants are able to buy the parking permits for their employees. So the system and technology is set up so that they can be purchased by the merchants and or the employees. And again, there's a variety of ways that the program can be managed very easy, very efficient. But that opportunity to be able to offer those discounted parking permits is, again, another opportunity. And I'll put in this other highlight, many of the cities have also offered what we call shared parking permits, where for some merchants, they're able to purchase a set number of parking permits, they just have to self-manage the license plates associated with that, so that maybe I have a morning shift and an evening shift, they're able to actually self-regulate the parking permits, utilizing the license plates of their vehicles for their employees. So there's actually quite a few conveniences that are tied into the program as well that I think you'll find a real benefit to the merchants and to the employees. And I think that it's something that people will really learn to appreciate as well because there might be some perks or benefits that'll come along with that. But we really love it when the merchants are able to buy the parking permits for sure. |
| 02:03:34.67 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:03:34.97 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:03:38.33 | Steven Woodside | Okay, I have a couple of questions, then I'll go back to you, Councilmember Hoffman, if that's okay. uh, Julie, thank you so much, this is a really thorough report and I, as Councilmember Cox mentioned, I'm very impressed that we were able to complete this for $30,000 that's astonishing. And but so, Thinking about one of the things that I noticed in the report that stood out to me was the number of different credit card vendors that we're using to process Our parking. Could you maybe just talk a little bit about that and what we might do with the new online permitting process to streamline that? Because I understand each vendor charges a different percentage and we have an opportunity to cost save there. |
| 02:04:15.29 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | You know, there's several communities have actually standardized their payment processing just, you know, from a city finance perspective. And when it comes to whatever those policies are, a lot of cities have really standardized that so that as a vendor, they basically are required to use what's called your merchant of record or basically the city processing requirements for payments. and in some cases that is not the case for all cities but you do have an opportunity now as we talked about maybe an RFP for payment technology, etc. You very much can either create those standards and the requirements for how the vendors have to participate in your program. That can definitely bring the cost savings because if you're using the standard operating procedure citywide for any merchant processing, that actually the higher volume transactions brings your rates and fees down. So that is a win for sure. But I think as we talk about an RFP process for payment parking technology, things like that, the opportunity to also Think about the vendors that we're bringing in. You could have more uniformity. So maybe if we talk about having pay stations, for example, on street instead of single space meters, you could then have a uniform parking experience, which is also one processing agent in that particular case. So I think that you'll find that there's some real benefits and wins that you can come along with that process as well and really simplify and standardize what those costs are. Right now, it's a bit of a hodgepodge, but I have to tell you that is not an exception. You're not in this boat alone. There are many cities that are in this process. And also because of just the fact that parking, while really primarily managed to the police department, you do have several departments that do touch the parking program as well. So I think that that's also an opportunity that when you really kind of talk about that centralization, and when that new parking manager gets hired, that's also going to be a real win for the city to really kind of keep a handle on everything as well. |
| 02:06:20.55 | Steven Woodside | So you mentioned the work of the PD and overseeing and enforcing parking and that there are a number of departments And you've also mentioned great new technology that's available from a smart city's perspective. that might help us using license recognition or otherwise to better monitor our parking Could you just talk a little bit about what enforcement mechanisms we might have available to us that we're not currently utilizing? that you've seen other municipalities do an excellent job of using, whether it's for monitoring time spent in those parking spots or following through on payment. |
| 02:06:49.29 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Thank you. Absolutely. So even today, your handhelds that your parking enforcement staff utilize, because of the cellular signal connection issues, they're actually not able to leverage all of the widgets and kind of features on their handhelds because of some of the communications challenges. And that's really obviously unfortunate. And I mentioned earlier today, too, the fact that we can't expand your mobile payment program across your paid parking program just because of the signal strength issues and the ability for your parking enforcement officers to validate those payment transactions. Those are some of the real low hanging fruit opportunities today. But the utilization of license plate recognition technology, this is really where this is really being fast tracked by a lot of cities because You know, we only have so many staff and we only have so many vehicles and the reality of them being able to be out there, along with all of their other job duties. And obviously the high customer touch point. I think that that's one of the things that I really like to acknowledge the police department and your parking enforcement staff. They're so engaged with your community and just, you know, such a high customer service touch point. That, you know, when you think about it, they're out there talking with people on a daily basis, you know, every day as they're out there. the opportunity to have a license plate recognition technology really allows them to cover more ground more efficiently. And so today where they have to rely maybe on some more manual processes and kind of physical verifications, the reality of the license plate technology is one that really allows them to cover more ground And also when we talk about some of the legal challenges that have occurred specifically in California, as well as the federal level, is the opportunity to use what we call auto chalking. So there's actually a memorialization of the vehicle and where it was parked at what time it was parked, as well as when they come back through the system, basically memorializes and records those violations. And it's something that then they have actual evidence or photographic evidence to be able to confirm that so that on your adjudication process, there's less challenges. And the evidence is basically there with the imagery to demonstrate where the car was parked originally versus where it was when they came back. So it's these little nuances that when you talk about, it's not just about the field enforcement. It actually goes through the entire workflow to really make the whole program more efficient and also more convenient to your customers. And that's something, too, that when you really talk about the ability for people to file an appeal online, things like that, that, again, a lot of those widgets, a lot of those features you have in play, but there's opportunities to maximize some of those resources and take advantage of some of the technology that you have today as well. |
| 02:09:44.96 | Steven Woodside | Great. And just in terms of the types of new technology that you're seeing with regards to how we monitor parking, is there something you would really recommend that we take on if we did have improved broadband services? Thank you. |
| 02:09:58.04 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | So... Expanding your mobile payment provider, absolutely. Your current vendor is one that's very prevalent in the Bay Area. So being able to easily expand that and take advantage of that program, that is a low hanging fruit opportunity. And here's the real benefit too with that. when you take advantage of putting mobile payment on street, the reality is your vendor actually provides the signage associated with it too. That's obviously city approved. And so it's really, minimal out-of-pocket expense when you talk about that added advantage. That's a real nice win for you as well. And then the opportunity to implement license plate, basically payments where you're paying based on your license plate. That's something that's also really important because when you talk about the way like the pay-by-space, like the way that we do it today in the parking lots, the reality of me being able to pull into that parking space and take advantage of time that has already been paid on that parking space. This is something that when you talk about paying by your license plate. Your license plate is your parking permit. And only that plate is eligible for that paid parking time. So that also has a revenue upside in a lot of cases for a lot of cities too. And again, because then the recommendation of utilizing the license plate recognition technology, your parking enforcement officers can be more efficient in their monitoring of the paid parking spaces too, to ensure compliance as well. So those are just some of the features that I think would be real wins for you as well. |
| 02:11:33.04 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. And then some communities are experimenting with having what they call green zones or green delivery zones or curbs that are committed specifically to EVs or zero emission vehicles. Have you worked with municipalities with regards to parking for zero emission vehicles and how might we enforce something like that if we wanted to pilot that in our community. |
| 02:11:53.21 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Absolutely. We're seeing it more in the off-street locations rather than the on-street locations. What we're really seeing in the on-street locations, and this really got accelerated Pre-pandemic, it was about finding short-term parking spaces for rideshare vehicles, because if we can all relate to the impacts of Uber and Lyft before the pandemic, Then the pandemic came, and then now it's been about short-term parking spaces for pickup and drop-off zones. And I do think that that would be a real advantage for Sausalito, is to have basically kind of the approximate, you know, per block base, having a space for short-term pickup and drop-off that allows for those locations for customers to be able to hop out. pick up a food delivery service, whatever the case may be. Those are real wins, but when we talk about the zero emission type of parking spaces, we've really seen those utilized in the off street parking lots more than anything. And then whatever the policies associated with that, whether it be a discounted or free parking experience. You really got to talk about whatever those policies are, but the neat part about the technology is it really allows for that enforcement. You just have to determine what are the policies, what vehicles qualify for that benefit, and then making sure that the program is designed around that so enforcement officers can enforce the policies because you also don't want the non zero emission vehicles parking those locations as well. So that's definitely a mixed bag there, but I will say primarily off street and then utilization of short term spaces is really what we've seen, especially post pandemic. |
| 02:13:30.73 | Steven Woodside | And then I just have one more question. All of our community members are aware that we've had a long ongoing problem with congestion with regards to bicycles. Have you seen anything exciting around bike parking at Dixon that we might consider as we approach or look at our overarching parking strategy? |
| 02:13:47.96 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | So, I mean, honestly, the protected bike lanes are probably the most prevalent across the country right now of what we're really seeing. On bike storage, I mean, you are exceptional. There's absolutely no other way to describe it. It's just you are. And the reality of where to store the bikes, the most common thing really has been bike valet, which you all have leveraged at you know certain times of the year but i think bike valet is probably one of the most common things that you see but realistically most communities only tie that in to special events because it's usually you know those type of community events that brings the locals in on their bikes there is no doubt that Sausalito is exceptional when it comes to that. The only other place I can compare to is some of the things that Amsterdam has done. And if anybody has seen that bike garage that they put in near the central station, it's pretty amazing. I don't really foresee where you would do that, but it is something that, again, you are the exception to the rule when it comes to the impacts of bikes and bike parking. I'd be happy to share some examples of some unique Bye. parking racks and such, but the reality is the volume of bikes that you guys are talking about. I don't know that these types of decorative racks would really make a difference, but the lifts that they have, and I've seen these in Berlin, in Germany, where the it's like a double decker bike rack, those are pretty nifty as well pretty easy to use. But there are some innovations and some of the bike rack technology that's out there as well. But um, Yeah, that's a tough one because you guys are exceptional when it comes to that bike storage issue. |
| 02:15:38.81 | Steven Woodside | Thanks. I'll go back to Councilmember Hoffman who had a question. |
| 02:15:41.49 | Jill Hoffman | I just had, yeah, I had a couple follow-up questions. One of the categories we forgot to include in our reduced parking is, reduced parking fees is the resident parking. And I'm not saying that we shouldn't have the free three-hour resident parking we currently have. I just think we need to tighten up because I don't think we have any way right now to verify that the people that have the parking the resident parking cars still actually live or currently actually live in the city correct so that's your list if you would yes could and and then the other thing is i just want to follow up on the commuter parking and uh maybe uh the chief who's here the police chief who's here can weigh in or or our city attorney but I don't, I'm looking at the application right now online. And it says there's no restrictions on eligibility. Anyone may enroll in the daily parking card program, which is $6 for all day. And it's a card that's loaded. You just load money into it. And the money doesn't expire. It's like it's a monthly fee or something. Right, chief? |
| 02:16:50.43 | Stacey Gregory (Acting Police Chief) | Right. So that's the common employee card that's used. It's also a common card that people purchase when they park and take the ferry. |
| 02:16:59.45 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, so it's called, it's not really a commuter card. It's called the daily parking card. And like I said, anybody can get it, right? And so I'm wondering I guess I was under the impression that since we would call it a commuter car, there was for some reason required because of, Thank you. because of the ferry or because of the transit line that we're on. Um, If not, if it's not required somehow, then I think we put that on the list too, something to look at. one for verification, but two, but since anybody can get it, I think to tighten that up. and try to define what we're trying to address and how to more closely and accurately serve the community that we think we wanna serve. I mean, it was probably a good idea when it was implemented a hundred years ago or whenever it was implemented. But I think that is put on the list too for evaluation. So. |
| 02:17:59.65 | Steven Woodside | Sorry, Councilman Hoffman, did you say resident parking as well as commuter parking for the evaluation list? |
| 02:18:04.76 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, for verification, right? So residents, I mean, I think that's all probably anecdotally, I think I know that there are probably people who have moved out of town, but they still get their resident parking card. for three hours of free parking in downtown Sausalito. So yeah, verifications. |
| 02:18:21.40 | Steven Woodside | history. |
| 02:18:21.57 | Jill Hoffman | At least annually, right? |
| 02:18:23.65 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Do we have any further questions for the dais before we open this up for public comment? Okay, seeing none, I will now open it up for public comments. |
| 02:18:37.09 | Walfred Solorzano | And see none. |
| 02:18:40.52 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 02:18:41.19 | Walfred Solorzano | Actually, sorry, we have one. |
| 02:18:41.78 | Steven Woodside | Sorry, we have one. Thank you. |
| 02:18:43.03 | Sandra Bushmaker | Bye. |
| 02:18:44.17 | Walfred Solorzano | Sandra Bushmaker. Sandra Bushmaker. |
| 02:18:48.32 | Sandra Bushmaker | Good evening again. I just had a couple of comments. One, I think this massive amount of data that you've been, and issues that you've been provided tonight Can I suggest that the council get real clear on what kind of objectives they're trying to accomplish with the parking program? And I think if you're real clear with that, then you will have Annette Haworthy- ability to use all of this data or request more data. Karen Hollweg, I have concerns about the license plate recognition that was raised by Council Member Cox with regard to privacy uses of the information. And also, I have a legal question. whether we are under any obligation to inform people that park in our lots that we are using license plate recognition technology. It's just something I think that needs to be sussed out. In addition to when this is rolled out, to make sure we have a good resident information packet so that the residents are aware of this. But I think there are some definite private issues, privacy issues there. Um, I have been, in terms of your objectives, I've seen kind of see some categories here, efficiency of our parking, maximize finances. Enforcement ease. and ease for the, uh, Parker, the person who parks. So I've seen those as kind of the big categories. I did notice that in last month's council meeting, the parking revenues for bicycles have decreased. So I don't know if that's a trend that we're seeing or whether that is actually something we need to be concerned about. And lastly, how many parking spaces are there currently in parking lot one? The report says that we have 473 spaces in all lots The report also says we had 194 places in parking lot one in 2018. I'd like to know what the current number is for parking lot. |
| 02:20:56.31 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, Sandra. Okay, do we have any further public comment this time? |
| 02:20:59.42 | Walfred Solorzano | I don't know. Yes. |
| 02:21:02.03 | Alice Merrill | Meryl? |
| 02:21:02.54 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 02:21:02.56 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 02:21:03.35 | Steven Woodside | Oh, great. Hi, Alice. |
| 02:21:05.81 | Alice Merrill | After all, I'm here. I may as well say something. My experience in past years is that people do not want 5G all over this town. Now, maybe it's already there that those who don't want it already have it. But if this requires 5G, it... It's a concern for people. And I just think that I'm always talking for the residents. I just think that we have to think about that, too. And if it doesn't work so efficiently, then figure out the... the logistics of it so that it can without the 5G. Now, maybe we already have 5G. Other than that, it sounds pretty interesting. I have a resident card that has not worked in years and I don't know why. So, and I don't know who to talk to. So that's, Oh. No, she doesn't give out the cards. She only, you know, says you did it wrong. Okay. So anyway, that's all. |
| 02:22:21.19 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, Alice. Do we have any further public comment at this time? |
| 02:22:27.20 | Walfred Solorzano | See you, nun. |
| 02:22:28.53 | Steven Woodside | Okay, I'll go ahead and close out public comment and bring it back to the dais here. And so I think the direction was to provide feedback. for further discussion in areas that we want to investigate and pursue with regards to our parking strategy. So if there, I mean, I think we gave some very, specific and key examples during the question and answer period But if each of you wants to just, perhaps weigh in with what you want to leave with direction and I can summarize or I can just make an effort to summarize. It's up to all of you, I want to make sure everyone has an opportunity to Give some feedback. |
| 02:23:04.75 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. I guess I'll go first. Go ahead. I love, I'll go first, I guess. |
| 02:23:06.89 | Steven Woodside | Go ahead. |
| 02:23:10.98 | Ian Sobieski | I love all the directions. I would love to get more data. I'd like to implement the virtual permits as soon as possible and make sure that those permits are segregated by employee. Bye. commuter, whatever that is, Council Member Hoffman brought that good question up, buy hotels and any other category so that they're not all lumped together. I think we should start charging in lot five. Currently, there's still a sign on Bridgeway that says, I took a picture of it and was going to put it up at all. It says, free three-hour parking for movie theater or theater. So it's been a while since, unfortunately, the theater was there. So we should... not be giving away. that. Uh, should implement the automated PMS. I don't even remember what that is. No parking management system. Yes, I like that recommendation. Upgrade and replace aging parking equipment. Yes. extend the paid parking to additional areas on Bridgeway? I say yes, that's with the resident exception, of course. Again, that'll probably help residents get parking if they don't have people parking there all day. Um, enforce, uh, I would love to do the pilot program for the license plate reader. Uh, it's fully encrypted and hidden. So there, there, there really are privacy protections on that. Uh, So, and I would like to try to expand mobile payments to the on-street parking. I think we should implement the special event rates for on-street parking, just like we have for off-street parking. We should definitely explore bringing cellular downtown and not only would be a, Thank you. win for the resident for the I mean, the benefits to this parking are key, but boy, it'd be great for residents to have a good salary earlier downtown and visitors and businesses. So that's just a, public improvement project with the Benny of enabling the parking business. Uh, We should do a validation technology like Councilmember Cox highlighted for the businesses so that There could be an incentive program for people to shop more when they're downtown, they would get discounted or free parking. If they imagine spending $200 downtown and you get free parking. tighten up uh, The daily parking card, as Councilmember Hoffman outlined, the eligibility, the purpose and eligibility for that card. It's a mystery to me what exactly that is, and we should be deliberate. So I would endorse all those recommendations and do them as soon as possible. in the order in which they can be done as quickly as possible. |
| 02:25:42.51 | Walfred Solorzano | Hi. Sorry, Mayor. We had a bit of a |
| 02:25:47.68 | Steven Woodside | Oh. Hi, Bebitt. Welcome back. Okay, please. By all means. |
| 02:25:54.58 | Walfred Solorzano | Please unmute yourself. All right. |
| 02:26:01.43 | Babette McDougall | Can you hear me now? |
| 02:26:03.34 | Joan Cox | Yes. |
| 02:26:04.10 | Babette McDougall | Thank you. |
| 02:26:04.11 | Joan Cox | Oh, right. |
| 02:26:04.15 | Babette McDougall | Oh, all right. Thank you. Thank you very much, folks. Babette McDougall, owner of 115 Girard Avenue at the corner of Litho, And first of all, I wanna just say, because I... I had to go back to Zoom twice now just to make this appearance. Thank you for starting with the Pledge of Allegiance, Mayor. That's really great. And also regarding this particular discussion item, I'd like to say, having once served on a recent generation of the Telecom Commission, Um, You know, investing in what are certain to be failed technologies, and I'm sorry to say that G5 is certain to be a failed technology for Sausalito. It already is. Every time there is a crisis, whether it's fire, Flood. you name it, and what do we lose first? We lose our ability to communicate. And I don't, I just don't, I must, we always start with assumptions whenever we're doing research, right? And so we're going to assume that G5 cellular technology is here to stay. And that has to be seriously questioned. I mean, these generations of telephone telecommunications technology. generationally change, investors want to realize their you know, ROIs, and then they move on to the next group that want to realize their ROI, and that's kind of what pushes it along. So, I love this presentation. I'm always interested about the parking in our town, but the set level of assumptions troubles me a little bit. This is probably where I kind of square with council members Kelman and Hoffman in this question, because there does seem to be some sort of missing items that sort of ties it all neatly together. And then just simply suggesting that the city wants to boldly go forward and lock itself even more into G5 or 5G, how some people say it one way, others the other. But the point is, I think that's a failed process. And until we know exactly how we can |
| 02:28:07.25 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you very much. |
| 02:28:10.79 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Okay, so thanks, Vice Mayor. I think I got most of your comments. And so who would like to go next? Okay, councilmember Cox. |
| 02:28:20.93 | Joan Cox | I endorse everything the vice mayor said. I'm not sure you mentioned the, uh, service workers permits for the workers and or for their employee or employers, but I would like to further explore that. I'm not wild about shuttling them from a distance. I'd rather explore a discount. And I'm also not as thrilled about a zero emission discount. We don't have that many charging stations. in town yet. Um, I don't know. I'm just... I'd want some more data to understand what the cost to the city of that might be. We're talking about tightening up. existing discounts. So offering new discounts is a little bit um, Antithetical to that, although I am in favor of going green. So I'm just. would be curious about more data. in support of that. Those are my additional comments. Thank you. |
| 02:29:37.77 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:29:37.78 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you, Councilmember Keltman. I'll just repeat my comments around slide seven and eight, just caution the representation of aggregate data without fully understanding geographic or other contextualization. I also think that slide eight that relates to total capacity can be misleading and probably a bit more I think the next iteration certainly needs to... not include things like the yacht club parking. That was very confusing. Those don't currently include in our revenue model today. We don't charge for that. But if we are going to start looking at additional parking opportunities, Director Phipps may know there's a whole number of conditional use permits down there that include parking as well that aren't monetized that we should have an understanding around. So I won't repeat everything else my colleagues have said, but I'll just reiterate those. Thank you, Mary. |
| 02:30:35.43 | Steven Woodside | Great. And Councilmember Falcon? |
| 02:30:37.69 | Jill Hoffman | I think, I don't think anybody's mentioned this, but in whatever the next report is, I would like it to include the metrics of the revenues from each of the lots, whatever it is we already have. So, and I know there's a lot of that information out there. So that shouldn't be that, that, that really gives you a good picture of the uses and especially the revenue generating aspects of those lots of each of those lots. Cause it's very different. It's, it's striking actually it's lots one and two are high generators lots three is like half of it or a third of those other lots and i think that's probably tied to the commuter uh the commuter cards and the other discounted parking that we have so from a decision uh metric uh that we would use, that's a very clear generator. Also include revenues from past years from bike parking, obviously 2020 is gonna be flat, but we have good metrics, I think, and good reports from 2017 on about use somewhere, about uses, I thought I had them on my computer, but now I can't find them, that we were generating, at least a hundred thousand dollars, if not close to $200,000 of gross bike revenue. So I did see, and thank you for adding in the staff report, the revenue from this year, which I think is like 19,000. So- with regard to how we move forward with that revenue generating asset and if, how and if we move forward with that, I think is something we need to decide fairly quickly. And I think that's supposed to come back to us. It's September, so it's October, hopefully. And I think that's all I need to add. Hold on, let me see. |
| 02:32:27.92 | Jill Hoffman | I support the implementation of parking technology and upgrade. I think for a lot of reasons, we need to increase cell coverage downtown, not just for parking, but also wayfinding and accessing just sort of information about downtown for visitors and residents use downtown. So I'm supportive of that, whatever that technology is, whatever the best path forward is. So thank you. |
| 02:32:57.95 | Steven Woodside | Great. Okay, so staff, I have a, this is gonna be quite a large summary. So just bear with me as I go through, but I wanna make sure we're really catching all of the requests here. big overarching request in general for more. more data on all of these topics. So definitely continue. the research, there's a consensus that we want to implement our virtual permits program as soon as possible. and make sure that they're properly separated by category. And we'd also like to look at charging for parking in lot five, as well as service worker permits and further exploring that. and also better automating our parking management system in general by replacing aging equipment, And I think what Councilmember Hoffman just touched on with regards to and there's a consensus on updating our access to mobile, and perhaps that might mean looking bigger picture at a, um, access to Wi Fi downtown in general and how we might improve our connectivity. We applied for a lot of grant this year and there's a chance that we may still receive some of those funds which could help with that. extend our additional parking to those areas suggested on bridgeway as noted in the brief And perhaps move forward with some pilot program for license plate readers. expand our mobile payments to street parking and implement special event rates for on street parking. and Look into our business validation program with discounted or free parking. and definitely tighten up the daily parking card as well as verification for residents and commuters with those parking cards as well. don't necessarily implement, but explore zero emissions opportunities, whether that's curbs for delivery or, incentives for EV parking. Um, Don't include, and then on the data, as we're taking considerations, just think about how we're really looking at the aggregate data without fully understanding it, in particular, like slide seven and eight. and including metrics of key revenue from each of the lots And let's see what else. And I think also we were given the opportunity to have a standardized payment processing form if we wanted to provide direction on that. So I think we should also work together to decide how we want our payment processing to operate so that it can be as easy as possible and we have the same shared provider going forward. And I think that that's everything. So since there's no, yes, vice mayor. |
| 02:35:08.60 | Ian Sobieski | Yes, Vice Mayor. I do think you missed just two things. One is explore cellular downtown was not on your list. |
| 02:35:13.55 | Steven Woodside | I mentioned that. I did mention that. |
| 02:35:15.74 | Ian Sobieski | I was going through. I didn't see that. And the other was Councilmember Kellman's request to look at the CUPs for, I think it was you that mentioned that. |
| 02:35:24.55 | Steven Woodside | Okay, I'll add this up piece. I did mention having a robust wifi and enhanced cellular downtown and a lot of grants, so. Okay, great. All right. So I think that's it for this business item. Thank you so much, Julie. |
| 02:35:36.01 | Ian Sobieski | Can I ask one question of the city managers is related to this? uh, If there's additional monies required for these things, will they just show up on a consent item or do we need to take any action in terms of authorizing expenditure as Councilmember Cox said, we're kind of impressed that all this was done. for this cheap amount of money, but I'm sure there isn't a lot left in that contract. So to do these extra things will take more money. How do we go about authorizing that? |
| 02:36:00.37 | Chris Zapata | Yeah, thanks for that question, Vice Mayor. |
| 02:36:00.39 | Ian Sobieski | you |
| 02:36:03.14 | Chris Zapata | I would come back with a whole separate discussion and not take it from within the original allocation that was provided by the city council. I think you're going to need all of that money to bring that concept forward to the community at some point. And so given all of the steps that you're asking, yeah, there will be significant work that, you know, we need to look at. And I will discuss with the chief and Kevin and Sergio, you know, how we'd approach that in terms of a contract extension, a contract amendment, a new process, but we have to work through that because obviously there's a lot of work that we've been asked to follow up on tonight. And so it seems to me that this was a good, very, very good conversation to have because it was important to not just our staff and our Parkers, but also you. And so all of these ideas and input that you provided based on Dixon's preliminary report is a very, very good jumping off point to bring you some more detail and make some improvements and structure those so that, you know, they can be done and we can figure out a way to put them into sequence where the ones that benefit and are implementable get their place quickly, and the ones that are more involved, that may involve more discussion with you all, are set in some place in a secondary discussion. But we'll get a contract to you that we think makes sense to us in a process that makes sense to you with all of this input incorporated. |
| 02:37:35.03 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Okay. So I think we have clear direction on that item and we'll move on to our next business item this evening, which is item 5B request for authorization. for the city manager to execute the amended and restated lease between the city of Sausalito and Lisée Francaise. for the property at 100 Ebtide for an initial five year period with tenant options for three renewals at five year intervals. So city manager, will you be? Yes, Council Member Cox. |
| 02:38:00.88 | Joan Cox | Mayor, I live right above the Lyce Francais property, so I'm going to recuse myself from this item. |
| 02:38:10.38 | Steven Woodside | Okay, thank you. |
| 02:38:12.49 | Chris Zapata | got. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you for that reading of the agenda title. And I want to just say that I'm going to provide a brief overview of what's being recommended and why Sergio Rudner, city attorney, can speak to the contract itself. I apologize that our consultant project manager from Christman Wakefield, Brian Foster, had to leave the call. He had something come up. So I'm going to do my best to give you the information you need so you can make a decision on following up on our recommendation. So as you know, just by virtue of the parking lot discussion, you know, entrepreneurial types of efforts in Sausalito are not uncommon. The parking lots generate $2.1 million last year, according to Chad, and this year, $2.7 million. So there is a real benefit that you have in a history of doing this in Sausalito. And our property portfolio is another example of that. You have a significant property portfolio that people set up years ago, creating jobs, creating sales tax, and creating revenue to the city. So all that is extremely positive. And so within those properties, there are certain leases that come due at certain times. And the agreement with Licee Francais is our largest lease. And really required a lot of work to be done on it. We began last year working on it when our property manager consultant was unable to continue. And so working with what was the remnant of our OMIT committee, Vice Mayor, then Councilmember Sobieski, and then Mayor, now Councilmember Kelman, the recommendation was given to me that if this is that important, we need to engage professional services to negotiate it, to provide us data. And so we interviewed a few firms in which Cushman Wakefield was the clear choice, given their familiarity with the Marin County market, given the fact that they had worked with governments in Marin County, and given that some of the other requests for work in Sausalito involved percentages of the lease, which I thought was not a good approach. And Cushman said they would do this all in for $10,000. So they were hired. They have done the work. In the staff report. You see a market analysis. You also see the actual contract that was negotiated in good faith with the team from Lisset-François so that this thing could continue. This business relationship could continue. And I wanted to really talk about some of the things that I think really matter. Sergio can hit the highlights of what is in the lease, but I want to talk about the importance of this lease. You have two leases involving schools at the MLK or with respect to Licee Francais 100 Ebtide, this one and then also the new villages school. So with Lycee Francais, their lease, which had gone through its cycle, and we brought forward, there was a real market analysis done on what that property and the inside-outside aspects of that property should incorporate into the lease. Some of the other clauses that we looked at that they wanted looked at that, you know, we thought were good discussion points, but not agreed to, such as the repaving of the lot. We did not agree to that because that will happen as we schedule it through our capital improvement program. We don't want to tie this lease language into that. And then they had some specific requests about signage, and we agreed to work with them on that. They had some requests for reduction in the holdover clause, which was at 200%, now at 150%. And the city wanted to see market-based rent. And so Brian and his team at Cushman Wakefield negotiated with the Lise Francaid team, and they took what was an agreement that was dated and now a new one that involves potentially 20 more years, five years at the onset, and turns it into $200,000 a year in extra cash the first five years. And so my staff report is wrong because it leaves out one word under the fiscal impact. And the fiscal impact of this agreement is the initial five-year term would generate, it says 1,042,414, 4,000. There's an extra four in there, but it's actually an additional $1,042,411 based on an annual increase over five years of $208,482.80 per year. So in the initial five-year term, this new agreement would generate another million dollars to the city. If it plays out over the following options, which are at the tenant's discretion to renew, it could generate, you know, total $4 million. So this is a big, big deal. It's an important deal. The city is obligated to pay on certificates of participation that go through 2030. This revenue stream allows us to comfortably do that. It creates, you know, I think a benchmark for us to work with other leases and a conversation that we need to have in the future about, you know, are our leases going to be market based in the future? Are we going to use a professional property management firm to do it? All these things are now in play because we've gotten the big one in front of you tonight. And our recommendation is that you approve it because the significant impact the jobs created, the educational opportunity, the sales, not the sales tax, the leased revenue, and the importance of it to our revenue stream that allows us to pay for debt service or certificates of participation with respect to the park bonds that were passed by the voters of Sausalito. So in closing, if you have questions that are based by the voters of Sausalito. So in closing, if you have questions that are based on the agreement itself, Sergio Rudin is on the line. If you have questions related to the process and negotiations, I apologize, Brian had to jump off. So we'll do our best we can to be responsive to your questions and we'll stop there. |
| 02:44:40.24 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, city manager. Okay, I'll bring it up to the dais for questions. |
| 02:44:47.70 | Steven Woodside | Okay, seeing none. All right. Oh yes, Councilmember Hoffman, please. |
| 02:44:52.68 | Jill Hoffman | Sorry, I just have one just to be just for clarification. The numbers that are being presented to us tonight, this is the result of the negotiations between the two parties. So the two parties, meaning us, And at least say we're in agreement on these numbers. |
| 02:45:11.36 | Chris Zapata | That's correct. |
| 02:45:12.20 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. |
| 02:45:16.05 | Ian Sobieski | And I just want to verify that the current annual rent is $560,000 and the And the new rent will be 700, start at $770,000. So we're talking about roughly $210,000, roughly a 40% increase in rent on that lease. with Chad shaking his head yes. I can't see city managers about it. So I think that that's a yes. And then I would just point out there's a typo just so you can fix it. I don't know when the right time to do it, but on page four, the lease, there's a table with five years laid out. And the fifth line of that table has, it's meant to say 2027. And instead it says 2017. So since this is the definitive lease, we should probably fix that typo before we sign |
| 02:46:10.84 | Sergio Rudin | Thank you. |
| 02:46:11.89 | Steven Woodside | City Attorney, you turned on your camera. What would you like to add? Yeah, that was... |
| 02:46:14.93 | Sergio Rudin | Yeah, that was it. Yeah, we will fix that typo. in the execution copy. |
| 02:46:21.36 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Okay. And any further questions from the dais? Okay, I will open it up for public comment at this time. |
| 02:46:32.07 | Walfred Solorzano | If anybody wants to make a comment, please use the raise hand function. And I am seeing none. |
| 02:46:39.65 | Steven Woodside | Okay, I'll close public comment and bring it back up To the dais, I think this is a pretty non-controversial lease that we've worked for on several months. So I'd like to just go ahead and make a motion to approve the lease. |
| 02:46:49.99 | Ian Sobieski | Well, |
| 02:46:51.60 | Steven Woodside | Yes, Vice Mayor. |
| 02:46:52.71 | Ian Sobieski | I would like to just say something. I think it's worth underlining because there's a lot of things that we need to attend to in town. The phrase back to basics is one I think we all adhere to. this is a real accomplishment. I mean, the city had a process that was formal with an expert, an outside expert who ran a definitive market study comparing the rates that we could get if we explored other options. It wasn't simply, hey, these are the same old tenants coming back to renew their lease. Let's just get it off our desk and agree to, you know, we'll just meet in the middle. And that's the extent of the thinking, right? That would have been the easy thing to do. And instead the city manager and staff engaged in a process that was professional, that looked at, not just what market rates are, but what our other options would be. If this tenant and the city couldn't agree on an extension, then what could we demand on the open market if we were to market the building? If we fixed the building up, What could we then get? What would the ROI be on that? That all gave us an alternative to a negotiated offer with the current tenant and enabled us to negotiate a deal that was as good, given all the balance of interests, as we could expect. It's excellence in government, and it's really worth underlining because otherwise it just gets hidden. And we look at the places, the potholes that isn't filled or something else that annoys us, and we don't really celebrate that. the working government city managers upon it talks about creeping excellence. This is, you know, exhibit a or exhibit B probably by this point, exhibit D or F because there's some other examples of creeping excellence. And I just really want to underline that because we all here on the dais talked about, treating all the property we own, the 40 acres and the many leases that we own in a professional way. And this is an exemplar of that. So it also lays the groundwork for how we think about any other leases in the future. and making a very deliberate, and seeing if we can emulate this process, and maybe explore a relationship with Cushman, like we had with our property manager or some other firm like that. |
| 02:49:10.93 | Steven Woodside | Thanks. OK, so the motion is on the table to approve the lease. I'll second. |
| 02:49:19.25 | Walfred Solorzano | Okay, Councilmember Cox is recused. Councilmember Hoffman? |
| 02:49:20.13 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay? |
| 02:49:23.67 | Melissa Blaustein | Yes. |
| 02:49:24.77 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Kelman? |
| 02:49:26.00 | Melissa Blaustein | Yes. |
| 02:49:26.39 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:49:27.35 | Walfred Solorzano | Vice Mayor Sobieski? Yes. And Mayor Bloste. |
| 02:49:32.45 | Steven Woodside | Yes. Okay. Motion carries unanimously 4-0. Thank you for everyone's hard work on this lease. And I echo the vice mayor's comments about this being a real of strong governance, so I really appreciate it. Okay, we'll move on to item six on the agenda. This is communications, the time on the agenda for members of the public to provide any public comment for items that are not listed on the agenda. If you would like to provide a public comment, fill out a speaker slip or raise your hand in the Zoom application. The city clerk will call on individuals who have raised their hands in the order that they were raised. After you are called on, you will be unmuted to allow you to share your comments. Remember, public comments are each allowed a total of two minutes to speak. So we'll now open it up for public comment. I see two. |
| 02:50:15.51 | Walfred Solorzano | Okay, Tom Riley. Oh, sorry. Actually, we'll start with Alice Merrill. She's here in the council chambers. |
| 02:50:15.68 | Steven Woodside | I know. |
| 02:50:23.90 | Walfred Solorzano | Sorry. |
| 02:50:24.05 | Alice Merrill | Um, I'm realizing. that the housing element is moving along. And I have been informed tonight that the possibility of an overlay, I mean, of a marine ship specific plan has lost already. But I am really concerned. And I really hope that the people who are working on the general plan will push themselves in the direction of keeping that as it is. If we could put a Marinship specific plan on it for another 30 years, What? we could maybe get through. this period of almost losing it. And, I think it's important. I really do. And I think that other people, if they understood what it was, they might too. But If we lose it, it's gone and it's going everywhere. It's going everywhere. We have people who are getting fishing boats from all up and down the coast because they don't have anywhere else to go. Here, this fun little town. So on the whole, General plan, please, please keep it. safe. Thank you. |
| 02:51:52.61 | Walfred Solorzano | Okay, Tom Riley. |
| 02:51:59.97 | Tom Riley | Thank you for having me back. Let me turn my video on. Sorry. Thank you for having me back. I'm here to call your attention to a letter that EDAC Chair Scott Thornburg sent in today in which he highlights that our committee unanimously recommended extending the marketing contract with Creative Digital Agency. It expires on October 12th. |
| 02:52:12.04 | Chris Zapata | SEA HIGHER. |
| 02:52:21.00 | Tom Riley | It was just over two years ago that city council asked EDAC to oversee the marketing program at CDA. Our given mission was clear, Explanator City's Recovery from the Pandemic. This was a particularly challenging task given our historical reliance on our tourists, making quick day trips by bus, bike and ferry. Our challenge is further exacerbated by San Francisco's ongoing challenges and struggles with their visit revenues today still at 68% of pre-pandemic levels. And municipalities across the region have an average recovery rate of 77%. However, I am pleased to report that Sausalito has surpassed our pre-pandemic visitor revenues with an impressive 122% recovery rate. To put that in perspective, Saucena's recovery at 122% equates to incremental annual revenues of $2.7 million, compared to what we had achieved at the average of 77%. That's when we apply this to sales and TOT taxes. We accomplished much of this by making a strategic shift away from reliance on day tourists and instead focus on attracting regional and local visitors for extended stays. This was in partnership with the Chamber, Parks and Rec, various nonprofits like SCA And our aim was to fill our hotels, restaurants, and retail stores with higher quality visitors, especially during off season. EDAC strongly recommends renewing the contract with CDA because this annual investment of $75,000 has yielded returns in millions of dollars, making it a worthwhile investment. Going forward, our investments will invigorate business and the marineship, support the Blue Economy Initiative, and attract high quality businesses. We need you to put this on the agenda on October 2nd |
| 02:54:06.45 | Joan Cox | up. excuse me, I'd like to ask A question of Mr. Riley before he starts. Sure. |
| 02:54:16.07 | Tom Riley | Yes. |
| 02:54:16.94 | Joan Cox | Yes, Tom, could you please finish what you were saying? |
| 02:54:19.39 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:54:20.98 | Tom Riley | Well, thank you. I do want to say that- |
| 02:54:23.10 | Jill Hoffman | I don't know that we can the Brown Act that we can, it's not agendized, that we can, we're getting into a bad habit on this council of when we like something that somebody is saying. that we let them not adhere to the same rules we apply to everybody else. And Tom, this isn't anything with regard to Tom Riley, it's just, I think we need to adhere to the rules that we've set forth and apply them equally, or we're going to lose. We're going to lose some of our credibility with regard to whether or not we're impartial to all people who come before us. |
| 02:54:58.58 | Joan Cox | I understand. |
| 02:54:59.30 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:54:59.33 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:54:59.42 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:54:59.44 | Joan Cox | We don't apply them uniformly. When someone's here in the dais, we allow them a few seconds beyond their two minutes. That's my point exactly. We need to stop doing that. Well, we have had a habit of doing that, but when someone's on the phone, we cut them off and mute them mid sentence, which I find rude. |
| 02:54:59.47 | Jill Hoffman | We don't. |
| 02:55:06.56 | Jill Hoffman | THE FAMILY. And we probably- |
| 02:55:16.89 | Jill Hoffman | Well, that's a different. So maybe our city attorney can weigh in on the risk that we put ourselves in when we don't apply our rules uniformly to everybody. appear to give favoritism to some people over others. Because I think that's an, I'm sorry, that's an ongoing problem. And maybe we need to agendize that for a separate agenda item. |
| 02:55:35.40 | Sergio Rudin | Yeah, I will concur that we should probably agenda is that for a separate agenda item I do think that there are some risks, but cities do handle this in a variety of ways. Some will encourage the commenters to. wrap up their comments expeditiously and will warn that they're going to cut the person off. But yes, there are ways we can handle this. I agree with Council Member Hoffman's comment that we do need to be impartial in our enforcement of the rules, but how we go about it. There's ways so. |
| 02:56:07.04 | Steven Woodside | So with- All right, so I'm gonna- |
| 02:56:08.00 | Joan Cox | All right, so I'm going to ask my question differently. Tom, why are you asking that we agendize this at the first meeting in October? |
| 02:56:15.19 | Tom Riley | Because this current contract expires on October 12th, and we want to continue momentum. We have a number of events we need our assistance with, one of which includes the upcoming Vogue Show, that we want to drive a number of visitors to and then the holiday events. |
| 02:56:31.49 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 02:56:31.93 | Joan Cox | you |
| 02:56:35.12 | Tom Riley | Thank you all. |
| 02:56:39.52 | Walfred Solorzano | All right, next speaker is Sandra Bushmaker. |
| 02:56:48.23 | Sandra Bushmaker | Oh, I'm back again. This is literally something that is not on the agenda. I right before right as the meeting began I looked at the agenda on the city website and your adu and jadu ordinance was not on the hearing items, just so you know, so I think the agenda needs to get amended to include that item. so that we have a proper record of when the hearing was. Thank you. |
| 02:57:17.66 | Steven Woodside | Just as a point of order, I'll note that it was, it's agendized as a business item and we moved it to a public hearing item because it needed to be a public hearing item. So we will make that correction in the minutes. But thank you for pointing that out, Sandra. I appreciate it. Okay. Further public comment at this time. |
| 02:57:36.37 | Walfred Solorzano | Sorry if anybody else is on Zoom, use the raise hand function. Sin none. |
| 02:57:42.70 | Steven Woodside | Okay, we'll move on to item seven, which is council member committee reports. And at the last meeting I had asked for written reports for meetings that have, for folks that have had meetings. I did not have any, meeting since subcommittee meeting since the last time that we all met so I didn't have any reports, but if the. Landside, if the downtown. committee did meet or other groups, it would be helpful at least to have an oral report out. Um, if we're written isn't possible. |
| 02:58:13.85 | Ian Sobieski | Economic Development Advisory Committee met, I think, Tom Riley summarized the main event there. was the recommendation on the CDA contract. But there was a tour de force presentation done by Brandon Phipps. that I hope everyone gets a chance to see. He summarized the extraordinary accomplishments of his department. One of the priorities of EDAC was to make the permitting system smoother for our residents and our businesses. I don't want to steal Brandon's thunder. I think he should give that presentation or people should look at it and give him the credit for the incredible accomplishments of his department. The number of outstanding permits has decreased from just give us the two numbers. What was it when you joined and what is it now? |
| 02:59:00.16 | Brandon Phipps | since at around 30. |
| 02:59:02.00 | Ian Sobieski | So about a hundred when he joined and about 30 now. outstanding. And so that's outstanding work for you and your department. And, uh, a recognition of the response to the EDEC inquiry about this area and a responsiveness to the community. |
| 02:59:20.48 | Steven Woodside | Thanks. Any other committee member reports? |
| 02:59:26.79 | Joan Cox | Can I just, oh, sorry. Thank you for that summary. If we start doing written reports, we could attach Brandon's presentation to the written report so that we would all have the benefit of seeing that. |
| 02:59:26.82 | Steven Woodside | Can I just- |
| 02:59:27.53 | Stacey Gregory (Acting Police Chief) | Thank you. |
| 02:59:38.65 | Ian Sobieski | I thought Jill was going to do it. |
| 02:59:40.14 | Joan Cox | Oh. |
| 02:59:41.45 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 02:59:41.91 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 02:59:42.16 | Joan Cox | . |
| 02:59:44.81 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:59:44.83 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:59:44.84 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:59:44.98 | Joan Cox | I'm sorry. |
| 02:59:45.03 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 02:59:45.15 | Joan Cox | No, yes, you're right. Sorry, I don't remember reporting. |
| 02:59:45.67 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. I don't have a report yet, Mayor, but I think Councilmember Hoffman and Councilmember Cox and I will all be at League of California Cities tomorrow and the rest of the week. And we'll report back on what we learn and represent. ourselves up in Sacramento. |
| 03:00:01.33 | Steven Woodside | I am in New York participating in the Strong Cities Conference with the delegation of 80 mayors from all over the world. learning about hate speech and anti-terrorism. I'm also participating in a number of climate week events with climate mayors. here on the Sidelines of the UN General Assembly. So I will report out on that next week as well. And I'm sorry to be missing Cal City's. Okay, so we'll move on to item eight here, which is city manager reports city council appointments and other council business. And the first order on this is to take public comment on all of the items in item in agenda items eight B through eight E. So if we have any public comment on City Manager information appointments to boards future agenda items or other reports of significance, I will open up public comment now. |
| 03:00:47.42 | Walfred Solorzano | If anybody wants to make a public comment, use the raise hand function and see none. |
| 03:00:53.22 | Steven Woodside | I'll close public comment and we'll go on to city manager information for council. |
| 03:00:59.97 | Chris Zapata | Yeah. Thank you, Mayor and Council. I'm going to give Brandon the floor to provide an update on economic activity in Sausalito. |
| 03:01:07.83 | Brandon Phipps | Thank you, City Manager Zapata. And we have a presentation. Thank you very much, staff, for queuing that up. Good evening, Mayor, members of council, members of public and staff. Very pleased to have the opportunity to present to you this evening on a business and economic activity update in the city. My update and accompanying presentation will summarize a number of recently approved and in-progress projects throughout the city that represent meaningful changes and shifts towards greater levels of economic development, many of which will also contribute to the city's overall vitality, pedestrian activation in our commercial districts, as well as our overall sense of place. And before I dive in, I'd like to thank the Chamber of Commerce, the Economic Development Advisory Committee, with special thanks to Monica Finnegan and Tom Riley, and the Planning Commission for all of their efforts in contributing to this update. And if I could just comment on Vice Mayor's comment regarding the presentation to EDAC, that presentation is in preparation of an annual CDD update to council. And I would say, as is this presentation. So I look forward to prepping that and presenting it to you at a future council meeting. Next slide, please. Specifically, this presentation will touch on 13 new retail spaces approved or under construction in the city, six new retailers that are already operational or committed to a retail space, two properties up for sale, one significant capital improvement project that I bet you can guess what it is, one in progress special district investigation, one completed historic facade improvement, and two significant project approvals in our Marinship district. Next slide, please. so diving right in 813 One completed historic facade improvement and two significant project approvals in our Marinship District. Next slide, please. So diving right in, 813-817 Bridgeway, better known as the location of our fish and chips restaurant, has been approved for facade modifications, additions to the second level, which will accommodate a future food and beverage service establishment and increased outdoor seating from what is currently there. That is nine to a total of 23 outdoor seats. future food and beverage service establishment, and increased outdoor seating from what is currently there. That is nine to a total of 23 outdoor seats via a parklet. The outdoor modifications will also include a ramp and elevated entryway to the business to satisfy ADA. This project was recently approved at the July 26 planning commission meeting and kudos to project architect, Michael Rex and property owner, Michael Lappert and our planning commissioners for getting to an approval. Next slide, please. Here is a preliminary rendering of what the facade will look like following construction of the approved elements. Next slide, please. |
| 03:03:01.18 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 03:03:01.20 | Joan Cox | Uh, |
| 03:03:39.17 | Brandon Phipps | All right, on to 721-723-Bridgeway. This is the building directly north of the Wells Fargo that I will touch on later in this presentation. This project contains internal TIs on three new retail locations, as well as the installation of a handicap access ramp. Two of the three retail locations are still undergoing interior TIs, but one of them has already been tenanted and is currently open for business. That business is the Holiday Shop that you may all be familiar with as it previously occupied a commercial space at 660 Bridgeway, aka the Barrel House. CDD is happy to welcome them back to Sausalito following their COVID closure. Next slide, please. Here is a photo of the holiday shop from late last week, open for business and just in time for Christmas. Next slide, please. 12-0 Portal, 690 Bridgeway will welcome a new ground floor tenant. I'm sure you're all familiar with an estimated opening date of summer 2024. That tenant is Cultivar, which is an intimate farm to table restaurant that features a menu of locally sourced ingredients and flavors from the Napa Valley. They are currently in the process of constructing significant interior TIs, as well as expansion of the city's sidewalk on El Portal to accommodate outdoor dining. This is a key corner and nexus point of activity in Sausalito, and I look forward to seeing this business further activate this central space when complete. Next slide, please. So to color this progress even more, I was able to sneak some photos of the current state of the interior of the structure. As you can see here, the tenant improvements that are taking place are truly significant and will help to bring this space and structure up to modern standards. Next slide, please. |
| 03:05:20.62 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 03:05:27.05 | Brandon Phipps | All right, on to 666 Bridgeway, Sausalito's newest business, Amor Ver, opened up two weeks ago over Labor Day weekend. Amor Ver is a women's boutique clothing store that combines Parisian chic with California cool. That is their words, not mine. As part of their improvements, Amor Ver rehabilitated the ground story retail facade and repainted all of the woodwork and trim on both floors of the front elevation of what is one of the most historic structures in our downtown historic Oak Lake District. I highly recommend if you have not already done so that community members, council members, check it out in person as the new tenants have not only improved the exterior of the structure, but have made significant interior improvements as well. This project was approved by the planning commission of April of this year following an approval by our historic preservation commission earlier in the month. Next slide, please. Just across the street, Parma-Marverre at 633 Bridgeway, the former location of the Bridgeway Cafe, is the location of what is to be a new cafe and bistro called Suzette Cafe and Bistro. This French bistro will provide food and beverage service to patrons and will utilize the shared parklet on Bridgeway for outdoor dining. The new tenants are currently building out their interior TIs and estimate an opening day of fall later this year. This project was approved at the July 11 zoning administrator meeting. Next slide, please. All right, on to 660 Bridgeway, better known as the Barrel House, where a number of projects are taking place. As summarized here, two new retail spaces are in progress at this location, one of which is a Boba Tea Shop by the name of Pink Pink, the other of which I believe is not formally committed to a new tenant. Both of the new retailers are on the ground floor, with one of the new spaces fronting out onto Yeetokchi Park. That particular space is nearly finalized and we are working to schedule a final inspection of the space when the owner is ready. The final project on the site is related to a still-in-progress discretionary review of front deck improvements to the second story deck fronting onto Bridgeway. These proposed improvements were approved with conditions at the September 7 special meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission, and staff is currently working to bring this project before the Planning Commission at the Commission's next hearing on the... 27th of this month. Next slide, please. Here are a couple photos I was able to take of the in-progress new retail locations at the Barrel House. I am on the ground floor in particular. I'm particularly fond of the new deck on the exterior of the building fronting onto Yitok Chi Park, which is the leftmost image you see here. Next slide, please. Also close by 1420 Princess Street are three new retail spaces and one second story office space that have recently been completed following building renovations. My understanding is that these units are currently being marketed for rent. I will continue to collaborate with EDAC members on the status of tenancy of these new retail locations and provide additional assistance as needed. Next slide, please. just adjacent to 14 through 20 Princess is 6 Princess. This building has one new retail space on the bottom story that is estimated to be ready for tenancy in October of this year. And similar to 14 through 20 Princess, CDD and I will continue to collaborate with EDEC members on the status of tenancy at these new retail locations and provide assistance as needed. Next slide, please. As previously mentioned, 17 Bridgeway, the former Wells Fargo building, is up for sale. The previous tenant, Wells Fargo, has officially vacated the building and is no longer operating. However, I think the ATMs are currently still functional. Discussion on the former sale of the site is still in progress, with Cushman and Wakefield assisting in the brokerage of the site. The change of ownership of this historic and central structure, in my opinion, does represent an exciting economic development opportunity for the city, and CDD looks forward to supporting the new owners in their endeavors to reactivate the space once it changes hands. Next slide, please. Another business currently, excuse me, building currently up for sale is 668 Bridgeway, better known as Gallery Electra. The current and long-time tenant, Gallery Electra, continues to operate in the space. I have not heard much on the status of the sale. I did not see a for sale sign when I went and visited the site earlier last week, but we'll keep my ears open and we'll keep council apprised of any updates I receive. Next slide, please. All right, Ferry Landside improvements. This capital improvement project includes expanding the Ferry Plaza, the installation of a sidewalk area on the east side of parking lot one to accommodate pedestrians, and a slight reduction in overall parking in lot one to accommodate these improvements. This project also includes the installation of a bioretention basin between Gabrielson Park and parking lot one, as well as the micro ceiling of lot one. Trees, benches, and signage will also be installed to support the revised queuing plan to provide amenities within the expanded pedestrian plaza. Under the recommendation of our Historic Preservation Commission, This plan also intends to relocate the Sally Stanford fountain adjacent to the existing kiosk structure closer to El Portal. This project is supported by the FTA grant passed from the FTA, Golden Gate Bridge Highway Transportation District of the city, and was approved by the commission with conditions at their last meeting on September 13th. Next slide, please. Here is the overall site plan for the approved project. DPW is currently revising the site plan to respond to the conditions imposed by the commission, which I'm happy to dig into as needed, at the latest meeting and is in discussion with the Golden Gate Bridge Highway Transportation District to ensure that the revised designs are aligned with the grant funding. Following those confirmations and revisions, DPW will prepare permits and mittels, which will be taken in by CDD. Next slide, please. All right, regarding the business improvement district investigation, we continue to hold monthly meetings with the improvement district steering committee, which has previously met at the Chamber of Commerce's Visitor Center on El Portal. In collaboration with the committee and our bid consultant, we've distributed a district survey to property owners within potential district boundaries to gauge their attitudes towards formation and participation in a potential district. based on received survey response. The committee has removed Caledonia Street from the proposed boundaries and has reduced the boundaries to what you see here, which is much more in line with the city's existing downtown historic district. Moving forward, we will continue to solicit and summarize survey responses, hold steering committee and outreach meetings as needed, and ultimately bring a formal summary of results and recommendations before city council and the steering committee for further consideration. Next slide, please. Wrapping up with some of the larger scale projects that have been approved by the Planning Commission, 265 Gate 5 Road was approved on March 29. The project includes the new construction of four interconnected one- and two-level structures to provide art studios, exhibition areas, and a gathering space for the community. The project is planned to include studio spaces of various sizes for several different mediums and project types. CDD is currently awaiting a building permit submittal from the applicant to begin internal application review. Next slide please. |
| 03:13:21.91 | Chris Zapata | And. |
| 03:13:32.07 | Brandon Phipps | Here are a couple additional renderings of the approved structure as presented. And in the words of Commissioner Graff, words that I agree with, that is a handsome building. Next slide, please. Finally, but certainly not least, 170 G5 Road was approved by the Planning Commission at their July 26 regular meeting. This project is a replacement of an existing 40 by about 80 foot steel warehouse building with a new and improved warehouse building of the same floor area size, but with a slightly increased height, increased to around 29 feet. This is a great project for the Marin ship, in my opinion, in addition to 265, gate five, as it brings an older industrial space up to a modern standard, which will assist in attracting high quality tenants to the district and adds to the economic development potential of the district and the project site. Next slide, please. That does it for me. Thank you very much for the opportunity to present to you this evening, and I'm available to answer any questions. |
| 03:14:44.21 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much, Brandon. That was fantastic. And I would hope that we would later agenda as a full presentation similar to the one you gave to the EDAC, but this was really helpful. Are there questions from the dais? I can't see. Is Council Member Cox's hand raised? Yes. Okay, go ahead. |
| 03:15:01.22 | Joan Cox | Go ahead. |
| 03:15:02.37 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:15:02.39 | Joan Cox | A couple of questions regarding the... Downtown PBID Investigation. You indicated that the Caledonia Street and water parcels were removed. At what direction? |
| 03:15:17.68 | Brandon Phipps | This was based on the negative survey responses that we received from those parcels. So the survey did not demonstrate support of the property owners for a business improvement district. Based on lack of support, we removed them. |
| 03:15:34.06 | Joan Cox | Okay. And the Ferry land side improvements, how many parking spots are you removing in the plan provided or approved by the planning commission? |
| 03:15:44.73 | Brandon Phipps | Yeah, thank you for the question. And I am prepared to answer that. City Council did condition the approval |
| 03:15:51.65 | Joan Cox | I mean planning commissions. |
| 03:15:52.88 | Brandon Phipps | Yes, thank you. Clinic Commission did condition the approval to limit parking spaces loss to a maximum of 14 spaces in Lot 1. |
| 03:16:03.00 | Joan Cox | And you mentioned a bunch of next steps, but you didn't mention city council approvals. Is this coming back to the city council for Approval? |
| 03:16:13.84 | Brandon Phipps | My understanding is that it is not. This is a design review project. The Planning Commission has rendered their determination. It will not come back to city council but I will defer to city attorney on that. |
| 03:16:26.90 | Joan Cox | Okay. I had understood that the city attorney was preparing a report for the city council, and the city is the owner of the city council. of this project. So I would think that the owner of the project would have some say in the design of its project and the use of its monies. |
| 03:16:42.71 | Sergio Rudin | Yeah, I believe Kevin McGowan has indicated to me that he is planning to prepare an agenda item and an update to the city council at the next council meeting. And if not, If he's not able to do it at that council meeting, I expect it'll be the second council meeting in October. Um, including going over the design and potentially review of the RFP or the bid documents before the city puts the project out to bid. Ultimately, the council is going to approve the project in the form of approving the contract for construction. |
| 03:17:13.73 | Melissa Blaustein | I just want to weigh in here with Council Member Cox's permission. So, We've talked this about this so many times about 1128 and whether or not it's triggered. And that is an assumption that you all are making that I think is inappropriate to be made by staff. If you, Sergio, want to render a legal opinion that we publicly review and evaluate, I suggest that that happen immediately. But this would be highly inappropriate from my perspective to not come back to counsel. and I think that's a mistake overall for just our residents who obviously would like to have a voice in this determination notwithstanding the fact that it did go in front of the planning commission so that was always been my understanding that this question of whether would like to have a voice in this determination, notwithstanding the fact that it did go in front of the Planning Commission. So that has always been my understanding that this question of whether 1128 was triggered is something that would come back. And I am now formally requesting that council get a full report on this with a report out from you, Sergio, on 1128. |
| 03:18:13.31 | Joan Cox | And I also object to the transparency. This is an issue that is huge for many residents in town, businesses and residents. And we're learning of this through a slide at the end of the evening, you know, like slide 20 out of 23, just, you know, cavalierly announced that the Planning Commission has made their decision and we're proceeding. Okay. And I think it shows a lack of understanding of how important this issue is to city residents and businesses. And I'm not, I don't, I'm certain that was not your decision alone. I just, this is this type of report I've been dying to hear and I am. It's two slides. in a rapid fire presentation rather than a thoughtful conversation about something. It's one of the reasons I was really looking forward to written reports about our committees, because there's a committee that's been meeting over and over and over about this with three of us having no idea what's been going on. And so, um, I really object to the lack of transparency regarding this very important issue. |
| 03:19:30.02 | Melissa Blaustein | Sorry to pile on here, but I'm confused also because the Council has been given reports on this before and has been asked for direction before. So now I'm quite confused as to why wouldn't come back to us, but also just philosophically. We know that this is a big issue for the community. Bring it back. We talk about transparency. Bring it back. Let the public have a comment period on it at the council level. I don't know why we wouldn't. |
| 03:19:52.72 | Brandon Phipps | Yeah, yeah. Thank you very much, Councilmember Kelman, Councilmember Cox. You know, I may have stepped in it based on my Kirk response, but what I am doing is speaking to you from the perspective of CDD as what is required by code via design review. When Planning Commission reviews a project through design review, it does not go back to council. Council does not have the opportunity to change the aspects of the project the Planning Commission has directed for approval. So if I'm looking too narrowly through my CDD microscope, that's on me, mea culpa. But you folks, Council, are absolutely correct that there is an opportunity to bring this back to Council, and Council is the ultimate approver of the project. So it is qualitatively different than your average design review. So thanks for the opportunity to clarify. |
| 03:20:39.70 | Joan Cox | Thank you. I have something to weigh in. Okay, well, I hadn't finished my comments, but okay. |
| 03:20:44.63 | Jill Hoffman | I haven't commented at all on this. So I'd like you guys are weighing in. Anyway, if you don't mind. So, yeah, we're not to future dend items yet, but yes, my understanding was that this was going to come to the city council for a presentation. I'll also note that the planning, I mean, this was fully on the planning commission counter, and I watched all five hours of the planning commission. So, you know, if you want to do a deep dive into all of the analysis and the presentation on this. It's fully publicly available for your enjoyment. So thank you, Brandon, for all of your work on it. I know it was a tremendous effort to get that to the Planning Commission. |
| 03:21:07.04 | Chris Zapata | It was. |
| 03:21:26.78 | Jill Hoffman | And then, yeah, I was, you know, I was surprised to see it on this presentation. because of the complexity of it. But yeah, anyway. Thank you. |
| 03:21:39.35 | Joan Cox | That's my summary. I will note that it was on the list of capital improvements, but without a budget allocation for this year. It was a budget allocation for two years down the road. And so I didn't comment on it, on the consent item on capital improvement projects at our last meeting. Tonight, we pulled the item regarding approval of the design contract. It just feels as though our opportunities to actually provide substantive comments about this seminal project have been limited so please excuse the fervor of my comments, but I do think a transparent and thorough presentation to the city council and opportunity to weigh in is critical. |
| 03:22:29.10 | Joan Cox | Thanks. I, |
| 03:22:30.28 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:22:30.33 | Joan Cox | I have no more questions. And sorry to detract from your marvelous presentation with that bomb. But thank you for the update on the wonderful economic activities in town. |
| 03:22:30.37 | Steven Woodside | I would echo the comments. |
| 03:22:44.78 | Steven Woodside | remember Kelman has her hand raised. I'll pile them. |
| 03:22:45.17 | Melissa Blaustein | as your hand raised. I'll pile on the positive. So yes, thank you for all this. And I welcome a more frequent cadence of reporting out this type of information and the level of detail and your linking together the opportunity is great. really well done and much, much appreciated. This is the first time we've really been given that type of report out, which just shows how much work you've been able to do in CDD. Um, I would also just maybe make some suggestions or requests for next time. of some maybe projects that are not in front of planning commission, but you may have an opinion on or some suggestions or wish the council to start thinking about. And those would include, but not be limited to Bridgeway and Marina. 300 locusts, 101 Caledonia, And then, of course, that entire area pretty much from Cascadley, probably to the Turning Street ramp, what's happening, what are our opportunities. So I would welcome your insight on an opportunity zone there and where we can make improvements and create new revenue for the city and how that looks from your angle wearing two hats. |
| 03:23:55.30 | Ian Sobieski | I have a question, actually, if I can tell to Council Member Collins and Corey about 1128 Sergio. Did you publish an opinion on 1128? And if so, where can we... See ya. |
| 03:24:07.35 | Sergio Rudin | Yes, there was a brief overview of my analysis on Ordinance 1128 attached to the Planning Commission agenda report for that item when it came before the Planning Commission. Additionally, I think the council is going to receive a memo from my office sometime in the next couple of weeks before the item comes to the council for consideration. |
| 03:24:35.28 | Ian Sobieski | And how do we get that memo? That's it's part of the planning commission package. |
| 03:24:39.55 | Sergio Rudin | It is available on the city website. |
| 03:24:42.58 | Ian Sobieski | Okay, thanks. And yeah, Brandon, Nice tour de force of a lot of good news in the town. So thank you. |
| 03:24:49.25 | Brandon Phipps | Thank you, Vice Mayor. |
| 03:24:50.57 | Melissa Blaustein | Sergio, while you're there, let me ask a follow-up question on something that Councilmember Cox mentioned around the ferry program. So my understanding, and it was a very thorough conversation with the Planning Commission, is that this was a part of the capital improvement program that the budget that was originally anticipated has since expired because so much time has passed and that The Council will, in fact, have to make additional budget allocation to allow for this project. How should the council, or as you make your presentation, in fact, I would actually ask you, let me ask them make a coherent request at this hour. Rather than just give us a memo, I would love to have a presentation from you that actually presents 1128 and then any associated considerations that we should have in this project, including additional budgeting and capital improvement programs. We understand how all these things fit together, and I would welcome your insight and guidance on that. |
| 03:25:44.14 | Sergio Rudin | Yeah, no, absolutely. That is great feedback. I will have to coordinate with Kevin McGowan on the funding aspect and the budget issues as that's well within his wheelhouse for implementation of the project. But certainly with respect to the legal issues in 1128, that is something that council can expect from my office. |
| 03:26:04.31 | Steven Woodside | Okay, great. Do we have any further questions from the dais? All right, and I just echo the comments of Council Member Cox and Council Member Kellman about the presentation on the Ferry Landside project. So hopefully we can agendize that going forward. Thank you, Brandon. That was a really great, and I appreciate all of the hard work and the data to represent what a great job you're doing with your department. So thank you so much. All right, so that's it for city manager information for council. |
| 03:26:32.29 | Chris Zapata | for Thank you. I can. If I can conclude my report, I'd like to do that. Brandon, you're in good company. At 27, I got spanked pretty good over a downtown project, and we can do better work, and we will. I also want to thank you for working really hard on not just economic development, but the housing element process, which we're moving forward, as well as working on the building and rebuilding of staff and winnowing out the consultant and high costs that we have with respect to consultants. So, thank you for all that. And again, going back to downtown and Sausalito, cities can get old overnight. They can get tired overnight. People can wonder why there isn't reinvestment or investment happening in buildings that are older. I think it's obvious you can see there's much going on in Sausalito to be interested in. So we appreciate your interest. We look forward to bringing back things where we may have fallen short tonight so that we can, in fact, get your direction and provide transparent information to the public. And I agree that 10 o'clock is not a good time to be talking like this, but it's where we had in the agenda because parking was that important. So thank you, Brandon. And I also want to report that one of the things I'm asking Brandon to do is to represent city staff at the League of California Cities Conference in Sacramento this week. He'll do that. Next week, I want to report to the council. I will be attending my first International City Managers Association Conference since they gave me a 25-year award three years ago. So I will be out of the state the first three days in October. I will have to attend the council meeting via Zoom, but this is an important professional development and standing opportunity for me to re-engage in, so I'm looking forward to doing that and reporting back to the council on what it is that I gained and benefited from that helped Sausalito do the work it needs to do as city manager. is that I gained and benefited from that helps Sausalito do the work it needs to do as city manager. So that concludes my report, Mayor. Thank you. |
| 03:28:40.64 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much City Manager Zapata. So now we'll move on to the next item, which is appointments to boards and commissions. I don't believe we have any appointments to make this evening, but I just wanted to say, I know this will be going out in currents and has been several of our boards and commissions have outstanding vacancies, so we will be agendizing interviews for all those vacancies and hopefully be making all the appointments subsequently in the same meeting. So if you're interested at all in joining one of these boards or commissions and being engaged and involved, I encourage you to take a look at our city website and to apply and we look forward to hearing from you and reviewing those applications. Sergio, what did I do? Right. |
| 03:29:17.21 | Sergio Rudin | Uh, that there is listed on our agenda, the appointment of Mark Moore as alternate to the sustainability commission. So that is an action that the council can take if it would like. |
| 03:29:27.18 | Steven Woodside | Oh, great. |
| 03:29:29.19 | Ian Sobieski | And I just had a question, colleagues, on this question of these appointments. Traditionally, we've always actually done interviews, but a lot of those interviews I found to be almost performa. So little time is actually offered for the candidates that that it doesn't seem like it's a substantive conversation. It feels performer to me. I don't know if anyone else feels that way, it feels like that an alternative would be to make selections based on resumes and interview people or commissions that we felt like we wanted to make a deep dive in, uh, I don't know how anyone else feels about it, but it's a substantial amount of time uh, And especially, I often think the interviews seem short shrift to me. I wanted to see what other people thought. |
| 03:30:09.82 | Joan Cox | I think meeting someone face to face is really important. And it's also important for the applicant. I remember when I was first interviewed to become a planning commissioner, it was one of the most significant interviews in my life. And so I think it serves a benefit on both sides, not just for us to actually know who we're hiring, have a sense of who they are and how they present themselves. as representatives of the city. but also for them to appreciate the gravity and importance of the volunteer task they're embarking on. |
| 03:30:42.65 | Jill Hoffman | So I have a quote on the appointment of Mark Moore. I don't remember us ever interviewing him or seeing his application. And I just looked on the website and I didn't, I just did a search for Mark Moore. That's his name, right? |
| 03:30:58.14 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. he was interviewed, I think along, um, with the study and ability commission a couple of months ago. Uh, he was one of two people that was in interviewed and the other person, I think it was Michelle or she got onto as alternate. And I think Mark was the other person that was interviewed by council. Okay. And, uh, |
| 03:31:17.61 | Steven Woodside | President Ajafi resigned from the Sustainability Commission. So Michelle Orr was made a general member probably at the last meeting. I can't confirm that, but the Sustainability Commission would have made to move her up to from alternate to sitting member, which would leave vacant an alternate spot. So. I'm comfortable with waiting to appoint this person so you can re familiarize yourself and we can all feel like we have more information because typically there's a. at least a resume attached before we make the appointment so we can. adequately review. So I think we should probably just do them all at the same time and hold off since there's a lack of familiarity. admittedly from myself as well, given how many folks we've interviewed that day. I would prefer to wait on that, but I open to push back from council. |
| 03:32:01.77 | Ian Sobieski | Just for our budgeting in terms of setting agenda, setting times, how much time should we offer each candidate for these interviews so we know when to start? and how to schedule it. uh, |
| 03:32:11.05 | Steven Woodside | Typically, we do. |
| 03:32:11.98 | Ian Sobieski | Typically we have an opinion. |
| 03:32:14.51 | Steven Woodside | Typically it's five to 10 minutes per, per applicant. |
| 03:32:17.85 | Ian Sobieski | So it really is just a quick face-to-face. |
| 03:32:21.04 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:32:21.06 | Joan Cox | Right. Right. I don't think my interview is more than five minutes. They asked me if I knew what the Marin ship was. And I said, I know it's where the art festival is held. Thank you. |
| 03:32:30.83 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:32:30.85 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:32:30.92 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:32:30.93 | Joan Cox | THE END OF |
| 03:32:31.00 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:32:31.03 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:32:31.07 | Joan Cox | That's... |
| 03:32:31.29 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:32:31.34 | Joan Cox | done. |
| 03:32:37.77 | Joan Cox | But anyway, I think it's an important process, even if it's more abbreviated than some of us might prefer. I still think it's important. |
| 03:32:50.07 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, I think so too. I think it's good to have a face-to-face interview. With regard to populating the boards and commissions, something that we tried or I implemented was that you do it all in one day, once a year, and that's it. Otherwise it is an incredible time suck for every meeting that you will have. So I would encourage us if we have Whenever it is, we're going to do our retreat. I think that's when we did it. Last, the last time we populated the boards and commissions, we did it all in one day. And then that was it. It was done for the year. And you did all the people, all the vacancies plus at least one alternate. And then you moved on. So it was an efficient way for everybody, not just us, but everybody who wanted to be on a boarding commission. They knew. And they knew when to apply and they knew when to be interviewed and things like that leading up to that day. So that's just a suggestion. I'll just say it. |
| 03:33:54.92 | Steven Woodside | I'll do it. |
| 03:33:54.99 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 03:33:55.41 | Steven Woodside | but often it leaves a lack of form. |
| 03:33:55.48 | Joan Cox | Thank you. or I'm looking for it. |
| 03:33:58.26 | Steven Woodside | you |
| 03:33:58.28 | Joan Cox | Thank you. we were soundly, roundly criticized for the number of vacancies on our boards and commissions because we weren't, interviewing and appointing. In fact, Our friend Stephen Woodside was one of the most vehement objectors to our process and for delaying and leaving vacancies open too long. |
| 03:34:18.58 | Jill Hoffman | that's how that process fixed that problem. because you... populated all the boards and commissions with at least one alternate once a year. And if you went below a quorum, then you revisited the issue. But if you've got a quorum, Yeah, I agree with you guys. |
| 03:34:33.78 | Joan Cox | if you've got a quorum. So |
| 03:34:35.03 | Jill Hoffman | So. |
| 03:34:35.30 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:34:35.50 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:34:35.52 | Joan Cox | Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:34:39.77 | Sergio Rudin | Thank you. |
| 03:34:44.95 | Jill Hoffman | I think that we're ready to move on to the next item. I think Melissa froze. Oh, she's frozen. |
| 03:34:48.53 | Joan Cox | . |
| 03:34:48.57 | Ian Sobieski | Melissa. |
| 03:34:48.83 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:34:48.94 | Ian Sobieski | Frozen. |
| 03:34:51.87 | Jill Hoffman | All right, vice mayor, it's up to you. |
| 03:34:53.51 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:34:53.53 | Jill Hoffman | Now what? Feature gender items. |
| 03:34:53.65 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:34:55.00 | Ian Sobieski | All right. Future agenda items. Are there any future agenda items? |
| 03:34:58.42 | Joan Cox | ferry landing. Thank you. |
| 03:34:59.89 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 03:34:59.94 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:35:00.04 | Ian Sobieski | landing. |
| 03:35:00.68 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Oh, public comment. How to courteously handle public comment. |
| 03:35:09.98 | Ian Sobieski | So how to handle the two minute time limit on public comment. |
| 03:35:13.44 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, and to add to that, and what are the parameters for items not on the agenda or you know, people who are actually at the dais and weighing in actually on whatever it is that they're weighing in on. There are certain criteria that you have to adhere to and probably an update From our city attorney, a presentation on that would be suffice. |
| 03:35:38.67 | Ian Sobieski | and Mary's back in charge. |
| 03:35:40.22 | Jill Hoffman | Oh, good. Okay. We lost you. Great job, Vice Mayor. We don't know. |
| 03:35:42.51 | Ian Sobieski | of a brief moment of glory. uh, right? |
| 03:35:47.16 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:35:47.46 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:35:48.84 | Jill Hoffman | I had another agenda item. I think the future agenda items isn't attached to the agenda that usually it is, and you can scroll through and look at it. Yeah. Sorry, I forgot to add that one. No worries. I didn't see it. |
| 03:35:56.96 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 03:35:58.24 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | That's a great discussion. |
| 03:35:59.03 | Walfred Solorzano | to it that way. |
| 03:35:59.46 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Thank you. It's honorable. |
| 03:36:02.17 | Jill Hoffman | It's on there right now. I'm looking at it right now. Oh, okay. |
| 03:36:03.66 | Julie Dixon (Consultant from Dixon Resources Unlimited) | Don't forget. |
| 03:36:05.26 | Jill Hoffman | bike parking, a summary of bike parking from this year, and then what we want to do going forward. And I think that's it for today. |
| 03:36:14.14 | Joan Cox | We mentioned a bunch of things last week, last meeting, the Drake. development, the It's in the minutes from tonight. I just don't know if those made it onto future agenda items because we didn't see the report. |
| 03:36:26.59 | Walfred Solorzano | They're on there. it's on? I put it on there. I just said not in the opinion. |
| 03:36:31.79 | Melissa Blaustein | Is Bridgeway Marina still on there? |
| 03:36:31.94 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 03:36:31.99 | Ian Sobieski | Bridgeway. |
| 03:36:33.78 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah, should we? |
| 03:36:35.22 | Ian Sobieski | I'd add the CDA renewal that came from EDAC. |
| 03:36:39.74 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 03:36:39.75 | Joan Cox | What? |
| 03:36:40.04 | Ian Sobieski | the CDA thing. The marketing contract renewal of the CDA |
| 03:36:42.84 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:36:42.89 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
| 03:36:43.15 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:36:43.26 | Joan Cox | contract renewal of the CDA contract. May I recommend that rather than responding piecemeal to our individual boards and commissions requests for money, that we tackle all requests for money at the same time as part of our budgeting process, like Sausalito Beautiful, Sister Cities. We get lots of requests for money from our various boards and commissions and organizations. |
| 03:37:06.03 | Ian Sobieski | entirely. This one just expires on October the 12th. So if we want to do marketing support for the boat show or other kinds of events. then this is the only opportunity to do so. Or not. It's just to choose not to or |
| 03:37:22.16 | Joan Cox | Well, we can. It's just difficult to decide in a vacuum without seeing what other opportunities there are. So it was. |
| 03:37:32.20 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:37:32.24 | Joan Cox | uh, |
| 03:37:32.81 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Yeah, we probably want to look at that in context of budget, but we could also view it as a pause and see what happens to whatever the metrics are, Am I saying this right? |
| 03:37:47.05 | Joan Cox | I was actually going to request more metrics because a lot of merchants are saying the opposite of what we heard tonight. Not that I don't trust Tom implicitly, but, you know, Berlwood has said business has never been worse. And Gene Hiller has talked about adverse business consequences. And so I want to, I would love to see more metrics to support the, the efficacy of the marketing efforts. as a part of that future agenda item. |
| 03:38:26.59 | Steven Woodside | Okay, any other future agenda items? |
| 03:38:32.72 | Steven Woodside | All right, any other reports of significance from the council? |
| 03:38:39.03 | Joan Cox | It's 1.40 in the morning in New York, Melissa. Thank you for staying with us so late. |
| 03:38:44.98 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Yeah, I'm still here except for that one log off. So I'll now adjourn the meeting at 1040 p.m. PST, 140 a.m. PST. Thank you very much, everybody. Thank you. |
| 03:38:57.39 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 03:38:57.49 | Ian Sobieski | Right. |
| 03:38:57.50 | Steven Woodside | Good night. |
| 03:38:57.79 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 03:38:57.81 | Ian Sobieski | Good night. |
| 03:39:00.22 | Brandon Phipps | Yeah. |
| 03:39:02.21 | Kristen Teichy | Recording stopped. |
| 03:39:03.40 | Brandon Phipps | Thank you. |
| 03:39:03.55 | Kristen Teichy | Thank you. |
| 03:39:03.65 | Brandon Phipps | Thank you. |
| 03:39:03.70 | Joan Cox | you |
| 03:39:03.87 | Kristen Teichy | it. |
| 03:39:04.05 | Brandon Phipps | Yeah. |