| Time | Speaker | Text |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00:18.17 | Steven Woodside | you're like an NFL. |
| 00:00:23.07 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:00:24.16 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 00:00:24.94 | Walfred Solorzano | All right, let's go. Good evening, Mayor Blastham and council members. This regular and special meeting of December 5, 2023 is being held in council chambers located at 420 Little Street. Staff and members of the public are also participating through Zoom. This meeting is being broadcast live on the city's website and on cable TV channel 27. |
| 00:00:25.46 | Steven Woodside | I'm going to go. |
| 00:00:25.48 | Jill Hoffman | All right. |
| 00:00:46.88 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much, Walford. And I believe we have agendas calling the role of the second item, so we'll just move into the first. Welcome everyone who is with us in the council chambers this evening. We are going to be holding interviews for board committees and commissions. This evening we'll be conducting interviews for the Historic Preservation Committee, Library Board of Trustees, and Economic Development Advisory Committee, and the Historic Preservation Committee. So each participant will have three minutes and we're gonna follow the order that's listed below. miss your time slot, we'll hope that you make it within the timeline for Each each committee, but I suppose if you don't, then we won't have an opportunity to speak with you. So please keep your comments and questions short and we'll try to give everyone the same line of questioning to so as to be fair. So the first person on our list is Elizabeth Carter Ward. Is she present? |
| 00:01:40.91 | Walfred Solorzano | Elizabeth Carter Ward. No. |
| 00:01:45.70 | Steven Woodside | Okay, so we'll move on to Levi Eastwood. Come on up. Hi, Levi, welcome. Thank you so much for being here and for your interest in serving on our Community Safety and Disaster Preparedness Committee. I love how you just cut. This is great. If you could, just so that our folks who are recording can hear you, can you grab the mic? Yeah, it's nice to have you approach the dais, though. Nice to meet you. Lovely to have you. We just want to make sure that everyone who's watching at home can hear you. So if you want to, I'm just going to start by asking everyone to give us a short, overview background of their interest and then I'll let the other council members each potentially ask the question depending on time. So welcome. Go ahead. Thank you. Yes, yeah. Whoops. |
| 00:02:26.74 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:02:29.39 | Unknown | It's not honorable. |
| 00:02:36.12 | Levi Eastwood | Testing, testing. How about now? Nope. It is on. |
| 00:02:43.52 | Levi Eastwood | Okay. If they can hear me, I can project my voice in here for everyone. Okay. |
| 00:02:44.36 | Walfred Solorzano | make an |
| 00:02:54.87 | Walfred Solorzano | Check, check, check. I don't know. This seems to work. All right. All right. We're good to go. |
| 00:03:03.70 | Levi Eastwood | Okay, perfect. So this is for disaster preparedness? Yes. Perfect. Happy to be here with you. My name is Levi Eastwood. About 15 years ago, I began as an EMT for the Ventura County. I maintain certification with that. My wife and I moved to the Bay Area and live in Sausalito this year. Since then, I am now working with the American Red Cross for Marin's disaster preparedness group. |
| 00:03:03.75 | Walfred Solorzano | Okay, perfect. Great. |
| 00:03:04.96 | Warren Wells | to the Thank you. |
| 00:03:29.62 | Levi Eastwood | And I feel that it is with where we're at and to make sure that we have a safe and stable community to make sure that we are prepared for anything that comes our way any kind of disaster or preparedness so happy to serve I'd love to learn throughout this role and contribute wherever I may. |
| 00:03:49.29 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. And council members, do you have questions from the diocese? |
| 00:03:56.01 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:03:56.03 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:03:56.16 | Unknown | Mayor. |
| 00:03:56.63 | Melissa Blaustein | Do you have a particular priority that you would want to pursue coming in or general service? |
| 00:04:03.20 | Levi Eastwood | I think response time would be one. I think looking at drills and the community's engagement of such would be interesting. And knowing that Sausalito does have quite a history to it with some older buildings, I think looking at the infrastructure of the community and making sure that we are prepared if there was an earthquake for older buildings or any other natural disasters. Those would probably be the first things to look at that I would be interested in. |
| 00:04:30.93 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Do we have any other questions? We have two minutes. Oh, hi, Councilmember Kelman. Yes, please. Hello. Hello. |
| 00:04:40.17 | Jill Hoffman | Hi, everybody. Can you hear me okay? Thank you. |
| 00:04:41.69 | Steven Woodside | We can't hear you. |
| 00:04:42.42 | Jill Hoffman | So. Great. Greetings, everybody. Hello, Levi. Thank you for being here. Apologies, I'm not there tonight with you all. One second. |
| 00:04:49.39 | Deborah Muchmore | Thank you. |
| 00:04:49.44 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:04:50.13 | Babette McDougall | Thank you. |
| 00:04:50.16 | Levi Eastwood | Thank you. |
| 00:04:50.18 | Babette McDougall | you can hear about it. |
| 00:04:50.96 | Steven Woodside | We don't, the speakers in the room aren't on. |
| 00:04:55.55 | Levi Eastwood | perhaps chat, switch. |
| 00:04:57.25 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:05:02.45 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:05:02.46 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 00:05:03.51 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:05:03.53 | Chris Zapata | Right underneath the board's environment. |
| 00:05:05.30 | Unknown | All right. |
| 00:05:06.21 | Chris Zapata | Yep. |
| 00:05:26.00 | Steven Woodside | Oh, nobody's going to say goodbye. |
| 00:05:26.29 | Levi Eastwood | Oh, no problem at all. |
| 00:05:26.70 | Steven Woodside | THE END OF |
| 00:05:27.66 | Steven Woodside | Mines on. Mine's on now. Can you hear me? |
| 00:05:31.96 | Joan Cox | us Janelle? Oh, perfect. Now the speakers are definitely on. |
| 00:05:32.52 | Levi Eastwood | Now the speakers are definitely on. |
| 00:05:34.48 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:05:34.70 | Levi Eastwood | Hello, hello. |
| 00:05:35.37 | Joan Cox | Oh, yeah. Right now, so we can see if we can hear you. |
| 00:05:37.99 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:05:38.02 | Joan Cox | Yeah, great. |
| 00:05:38.96 | Jill Hoffman | great guys. |
| 00:05:40.69 | Levi Eastwood | I'll do that. |
| 00:05:41.02 | Steven Woodside | Okay, go ahead. You had a question for the- |
| 00:05:43.13 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. Thank you very much, Mayor. Levi, welcome. So two questions for you. One is, can you just tell us a little bit more with disaster preparedness for emergency management with the Red Cross. So we have a fuller idea of what you've been working on. And I'm just curious, do you have any experience or background in emergency communication services? whether it's ham radio or other type of services that we might utilize in case of a disaster. |
| 00:06:09.02 | Levi Eastwood | Absolutely. |
| 00:06:09.56 | Peter Van Meter | Thank you. |
| 00:06:16.01 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 00:06:19.74 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 00:06:21.22 | Golnihal Kamek | Thank you. |
| 00:06:21.25 | Jill Hoffman | I think that's what's up. |
| 00:06:26.96 | Levi Eastwood | It might be probably. Thank you. |
| 00:06:31.62 | Mustafa Alami | Thank you. |
| 00:06:31.80 | Golnihal Kamek | to this role. |
| 00:06:31.97 | Mustafa Alami | Thank you. |
| 00:06:32.02 | Levi Eastwood | Thank you. |
| 00:06:32.04 | Mustafa Alami | Just hold on. |
| 00:06:32.56 | Levi Eastwood | you |
| 00:06:37.03 | Mustafa Alami | Can you guys turn in the mic back? |
| 00:06:40.48 | Levi Eastwood | Testing, testing. Can you hear me from Zoom? Okay, thanks so much for the question. So your first question with my work with the American Red Cross on the disaster burying Marins. I am on a small team that does site locations for displaced folks when natural disasters hit. So in the Bay Area, Marin specifically, we have dozens of locations that we have basically pre-scouted, getting the square footage where we would put cots and resources for when an event strikes. So the last time was several years ago, in Northern Marin where we housed folks during the fires. And this type of preparedness allows us to move very quickly and work with the county. to take care of those in need during that time and getting down to the the finest questions and different scenarios, making sure that when when the time does hit that we can take care of our folks. So that question went in. I believe your second question was around communication, specifically disaster communications. Was that right? Okay. Not specifically. During my time as an EMT, there were several protocols and trainings that I'm familiar with, but I, my specialty wasn't in communications exactly. It was more feet on the ground as an EMT. So beyond that, I, I have no specialties in communications specific specifically. |
| 00:08:20.29 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. Thanks for being here with us. We really appreciate it. I'm glad. |
| 00:08:21.20 | Levi Eastwood | Thanks for being here. I'm glad we got the kinks out on mine too. Yes. Thank you very much. It was a pleasure. Thank you. |
| 00:08:25.03 | Steven Woodside | Yes. Thank you very much. It was a pleasure. Thank you. |
| 00:08:31.82 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah, I was just here. We just ask you one last question. You're here to different committees. So would you want to sit on three different kinds. Do you want to serve on all three or is there one that's your primary one. |
| 00:08:42.26 | Levi Eastwood | EDEC would be my number one choice. Thank you. Thank you. The third one is sustainability. I believe that's later in the evening. No problem. |
| 00:08:53.33 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Okay, thank you very much. All right, Jane Kendall. |
| 00:08:59.41 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:09:00.49 | Deborah Muchmore | Thank you. |
| 00:09:00.52 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:09:00.55 | Deborah Muchmore | Okay. |
| 00:09:01.04 | Walfred Solorzano | I believe she's on Zoom, Jane Kendall, if you can. |
| 00:09:05.68 | Deborah Muchmore | Hi there, can you hear me? |
| 00:09:09.48 | Walfred Solorzano | Hi, we can hear you. |
| 00:09:11.05 | Deborah Muchmore | Thank you. YES. |
| 00:09:12.18 | Jane Kendall | THE FAMILY. |
| 00:09:12.23 | Deborah Muchmore | I can hear you. |
| 00:09:12.97 | Jane Kendall | ME? |
| 00:09:13.65 | Steven Woodside | Hi, Jane. Welcome. If you could just start by giving us a little bit about your background and why you're interested in this particular board or commission, and then I'll allow council members to ask additional questions as there's time. |
| 00:09:22.96 | Jane Kendall | Sure. I've already spent two terms on this committee. I don't even know if that's the maximum. I think maybe it's three, but I'm not sure. I used to work in disaster recovery many moons ago. And so when I moved to Sausalito eight years ago, I wanted to get involved and help with potentially neighborhood organizing. My background is actually in communications, but not in infrastructure. So I used to do public health intervention after disasters, but that was truly on communications, like the messaging behind it, as opposed to the infrastructure. I still think that there's a lot of... opportunity to mobilize people in Sausalito to get them more prepared earlier on. And I think that there are lots of tools now to help us do that, that it would be great for us to be using more of. I know that this committee has some constraints in terms of our particular role in all of that, but that's that's probably the thing that I would want to focus on if I spent more time on the committee. |
| 00:10:29.23 | Unknown | Thank you, Jane. I'll bring it back to the dais for questions. No. |
| 00:10:36.67 | Melissa Blaustein | How many years have you been on the committee so far? Okay. |
| 00:10:41.08 | Jane Kendall | Um... at least well four, and then there's been a bit of a pause, um, I believe we were waiting to hear on the renewal of our chair. So there's been a pause, but four years that we're active. |
| 00:10:57.36 | Melissa Blaustein | So taking advantage of this moment, since there aren't other questions, do you have any feedback on how the board and commission that you serve on can better work with city council? |
| 00:11:07.20 | Jane Kendall | Well, I think there are a couple things. When I joined the committee, I think without any context, knowing how it worked, I felt like a lot of the role of the committee was actually to work with our fire and police and emergency responders and kind of be a primary vetter of what they were planning to do and what they were investing in. and then sort of ahead of time recommending to the city council that these were good approaches to take. And I think we have, I think those organizations are, they do a great job. And I think very rarely did the committee have feedback that that wasn't, that's a good idea. So I think one of the ways that the committee could work better with city council is to not just provide sort of the thumbs up on behalf of the committee. what's in the works or what's being planned, but also to think a little bit ahead about other kinds of investments outside of emergency response that could make a big difference for Sausalito. And that, you know, so one of those things, for example, would be, you know, we, we have challenges, not just Sausalito, but lots of towns have challenges in mobilizing people ahead of time when it comes to prevention or to making big moves and there's been huge advancement on things like fire preparedness but I still think that there's a lot of engagement that could be done and that we should be working with the city council to figure out how to make that happen in ways that we haven't done in before |
| 00:12:42.21 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Council Member Kelman, you had your hand raised. We only have a couple of... |
| 00:12:45.70 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. And thank you. Yeah, thank you, Mayor. The vice mayor and I are thinking alike tonight. So Jane, forgive me if this is a little duplicative, but since you have spent time, I would just a little variation on the vice mayor's question, which is, |
| 00:12:56.30 | Warren Wells | I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. |
| 00:12:59.54 | Jill Hoffman | On your personal experience here, what do you think you guys did well? And what do you think you can improve on? |
| 00:13:07.35 | Jane Kendall | Oh, as a committee. I mean, I think, I think, um, when I, as I said, when I joined, um, I, you know, that I was the only new face, I think out of many who had been there for a while. And, um, I think they had a really strong relationship with our emergency services and our first responders. Um, I think, um, Towards the end, although we had other challenges in terms of literally just people showing up to meetings and those kinds of basic challenges, which is something that I think the committee needs to, you know, that we need to find a way to work around that or to create a committee that doesn't have that problem. I don't know if all committees have that problem because I've never said another. but literally showing up is a challenge for the committee but I think we were making good headway on some other fronts that we hadn't moved on before like NRGs, working with Milv... Literally showing up is a challenge for the committee, but I think we were making good headway on some other fronts that we hadn't moved on before, like NRGs working with Mill Valley and other towns in sort of a more regional effort. I think all the things were good things that were happening and NRGs are a big thing. The neighborhood resource groups would be a big change. Many other towns have that. Sausalito's never managed to organize that. And the committee was just making moves into that when, you know, it got difficult in the pandemic. And I think that was a hard time for everyone to operate. And So there were lots of stops and starts around that. And from a committee perspective, I think we had lots of too many stops and starts. So momentum would be lost. And I think if the committee were to continue operating, you know, one of the things that I think could be better is just like a clearer mandate for what what is the role of this committee. And if the role of the committee is is more action oriented than it has been in the past, I think that would be a big positive. And that's something that I don't know if that's part of our mandate or not. But when I joined, it certainly didn't feel that way. But towards the end, there were moves in that direction, especially around NRGs. |
| 00:14:54.02 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, Jane. Really appreciate it. Appreciate your time and your service. Okay, we have to move on. So now we have, please forgive me if I pronounce this wrong, Golnihal Kamek. |
| 00:15:07.16 | Walfred Solorzano | I think she might be on Zoom. |
| 00:15:10.25 | Golnihal Kamek | Yes, I am sorry, I was trying to unmute myself. Yes, you guys can call me Gyuni and yeah, I actually am here because I experienced myself a big disaster earthquake in 1999. I am a survivor of it where we lost 28,000 people And I am actually, I used to live back then in Turkey, in a small town by the water, just like South Solito. And we were very touristy town. It was a big disaster and we weren't ready for it. And I know the importance of your neighborhoods and how it needs to be ready for such disasters. It takes only one big disaster for you to understand Well, not everybody will leave it, but our kids in the future might have it. So we need to have that. set up in this town too because San Francisco is right by the Golden Gate Bridge. We are close to the fault zones. Yes, it's not only about earthquakes, right? There's other disasters can happen, fires and everything. So definitely like we need to have, I was a part of Palo Alto emergency services as well. When I was living there, I lived there for four years. Every neighborhood had someone responsible. And because when the disasters on a large scale, when they happen, your neighbors are the ones that will help you first. They are the first responders. So you need to really coordinate well to make sure you have people in certain neighborhoods, you have people assigned to, Um, I mean, hopefully several people assigned and know what they are doing. during what needs to happen for the specific disaster that happens. So, That's why I'm here. I know the importance of it and I make myself available. And I studied geophysical engineering. This was kind of my response to my trauma that I have been through. And I spent another five years and studied geophysical engineer to now Um, more about earthquakes and, you know, earth moments and volcanoes and everything, but I never practiced it, to be honest, but I have the knowledge of the science. Uh, I'm currently a senior project manager at SAP. And I live on Hurricane Gouch. and close to um, that's a little, um, Golden Gate Market. So, yeah, and I'm looking forward to how the city organized. |
| 00:18:04.38 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. I think we may have time for one quick question because we're running short on time, if we have one. Okay. So seeing. |
| 00:18:13.31 | Unknown | Did you have one? |
| 00:18:15.67 | Joan Cox | I would say, what is your first piece of advice for Sausalito based on what you learned in Turkey? |
| 00:18:24.43 | Golnihal Kamek | Oh yeah, so similarly people live here like it will never happen. It's actually good that they live like that. I don't want, I don't expect people to live like it's gonna happen tomorrow anyway, right? But I think at this, knowing that At least have a bag of stuff, you know, you prepare your bag, certain basic knowledge on how to be ready and make them understand, like at least, you know, make sure they update that bag on sides in case of emergency happens. They can survive, you know, they are ready. We give them at least that material. Hey, we are in this and that kind of disaster zone. We make everyone aware of it. Titi works on it a little harder to show them and then make sure this is how you can prepare. Right? And this is who to reach out to if this happens. Because you know what? If large scale of events happen, Your firefighters might be also trying to survive on their own with their family. So, you are going to be a little bit on your own. So you need to know basic survival skills, and you need to have a bag ready for you. So that's what my advice will be. Thank you very much. We really appreciate it. |
| 00:19:43.63 | Steven Woodside | Okay, so that concludes the Community Safety Disaster Preparedness Committee applications. Is Elizabeth on Zoom? |
| 00:19:52.16 | Walfred Solorzano | I do not see Elizabeth on Zoom. |
| 00:19:55.76 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Soap and we're running behind soap. So is Daniel Chador here? Okay. Hi, welcome. How are you? Thanks for being here with us and for your interest in serving our community. I'm sorry. |
| 00:20:06.69 | Daniel Shador | Good. |
| 00:20:06.88 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:20:07.25 | Daniel Shador | My name's Daniel Shador. I am the operator of both Hotel Sausalito and the Gables Inn. I have a very long history with Sausalito, starting as a busboy at Zach's. which then became Dario's Pizza Delivery. Somewhere along the line, I became a CFO of a large building company, and I'm both a commercial broker, |
| 00:20:20.53 | Warren Wells | Thank you. |
| 00:20:26.37 | Daniel Shador | as well as a general contractor. I have a long history rebuilding buildings in Sausalito. As a hotel operator, my goal is to basically emphasize on building on on trying to increase revenue to the downtown core I operate in five buildings in the historic downtown district. and we need help. My occupancy is down. We're not at the 2019 levels yet, and we need to flourish. |
| 00:20:55.65 | Steven Woodside | Great, thank you so much. Do we have questions from the dais? I can ask a question. Yeah. So since you're a business owner and the focus of this committee is on economic development, what areas do you think we need to do a better job of that isn't yet being looked at by the city? |
| 00:21:12.93 | Daniel Shador | Well, I can see that the, I don't know how the sales, you know, these are all kind of very specific questions that I'd have to dig into your reports, but I don't know how sales tax revenue is doing. I know TOT tax revenue, you know, we were holding, our TOT tax revenue was actually holding up but not because of occupancy, more because we are of the height to basically hold rates at a higher level on weekends. The biggest issue we have right now is we have no weekday traffic. And I think that's a story you're going to hear from throughout the restaurants. And we have two new restaurants that are coming into town. We have one underneath Hotel Sausalito Cultivar. He's going to need some volume. I know Chris Henry's got the sushi place opening up soon. We've got a lot of restaurants and a lot of mouths to feed. We really need to market both to the local demographics, but we got to hit the in-state people, too, for lodging. We need a higher lodging revenue. So I would want to work basically to try to hopefully EDAC and can basically focus some of those efforts to bring the in-state. Out-of-state's difficult right now, but in-state is really the focus. |
| 00:22:20.55 | Unknown | Councilmember Kelman. |
| 00:22:23.40 | Daniel Shador | Thank you. |
| 00:22:23.43 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you for |
| 00:22:24.82 | Daniel Shador | you |
| 00:22:25.53 | Jill Hoffman | coming tonight and offering up your insight and on the ground experience, I'm curious, What do you see as the difference in... roles and responsibilities of the EDAC versus being a member of the chamber. |
| 00:22:40.49 | Daniel Shador | Thank you. to be able to get the I'm sorry, I don't quite understand the question. |
| 00:22:45.99 | Jill Hoffman | So we have a robust Chamber of Commerce in Sausalito, and certainly a lot of things that you're talking about could be executed through the Chamber of Commerce. So I'm curious to get your perspective. on what you see the role of the Chamber of Commerce being versus the role of the EDAC. |
| 00:22:59.73 | Daniel Shador | The way I at least have understood it is it's really the communication between the chamber, which I'm a member of, and the city council and how finances are handled in advertising and marketing and so on. Because I know a lot of times the chamber has The chamber doesn't, while the chamber is an isolated entity, and we all work within the chamber with our annual dues and so on, the other side is how does the city interact with the chamber? And I believe that's the EDAC's really position is to take on that role. |
| 00:23:34.83 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. We really appreciate it. Oh, go ahead. Yeah, Councilman Ruffin. Thank you. |
| 00:23:39.52 | Ian Sobieski | Thanks for coming in. And so one of the questions I have is we do have, it looks like from your application you're no longer a resident in Sausalito, correct? |
| 00:23:49.49 | Daniel Shador | I moved out of Sausley. I lived here for 15 years. I'm up in Novato until my daughter graduates, we're in Catholic, and probably next year we'll be coming back. |
| 00:23:57.49 | Ian Sobieski | Okay, great. Okay, so I think we have a certain number of non-residents that we appoint to EDAC. So I just wanted to clarify that for us in our notes. when we make appointments. We're not doing appointments tonight, as I understand it. So thank you so much for coming in. |
| 00:24:13.22 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:24:13.24 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:24:13.26 | Daniel Shador | Okay, thank you. |
| 00:24:13.85 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:24:13.91 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. |
| 00:24:15.08 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 00:24:18.00 | Steven Woodside | Casey O'Neill. Thanks for coming in, Casey. Thank you. |
| 00:24:23.23 | Unknown | at me. |
| 00:24:26.00 | Casey O'Neill | So I think the question is why do I want to get involved? |
| 00:24:29.69 | Steven Woodside | and a little bit about your background. |
| 00:24:31.68 | Casey O'Neill | Sure, yeah. My wife and I moved to Sausalito two years ago, so I certainly do not have the years of experience that some folks have. But really, I've fallen in love with the town, and they're pretty focused on putting down roots here. We have a one-year-old daughter, and so get us involved. My background is as a practicing attorney. I have a law practice in the city, and I specialize in disputes and investigations, including government enforcement matters, which is really my focus, and so, that I would hope would actually translate pretty well to a lot of the work that's done here at the city level. I know we're running a little behind on time, so let me pause and see if there are questions. |
| 00:25:14.48 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah, I have. So I'm one of the council liaisons for EDAC, as is Council Member, or sorry, Vice Mayor Sobieski and Council Member Kellman there on the big screen also. And so how do you... How do you feel that – or let me just ask you this. Is any of your background in economic development, or do you have experience in that? It's not a precursor or a – |
| 00:25:36.89 | Warren Wells | Thank you. |
| 00:25:36.94 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:25:36.97 | Casey O'Neill | I know. |
| 00:25:37.21 | Warren Wells | Thank you. |
| 00:25:39.08 | Casey O'Neill | Sure, sure. |
| 00:25:40.14 | Ian Sobieski | No. |
| 00:25:40.46 | Casey O'Neill | Thank you. Not directly, I would say, so much on the development front, but my background is in in political science and economic studies. I have a master's degree in financial legal matters essentially as well as the JD and so I have a pretty healthy dose of finance training |
| 00:25:59.96 | Warren Wells | Yeah. |
| 00:26:04.97 | Unknown | Any other questions from the diocese? Thank you. |
| 00:26:08.88 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 00:26:09.32 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:26:09.37 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Sorry, we have to keep these very short. So I guess, but thank you very much for, for. being here and taking the time. |
| 00:26:15.92 | Casey O'Neill | Thanks for having me. |
| 00:26:16.58 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. Jane Farley. Is Jane Farley with us? |
| 00:26:23.45 | Walfred Solorzano | I do not see a Jane online either. |
| 00:26:27.23 | Steven Woodside | Okay. How about Christy Ritt? |
| 00:26:29.77 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. Christy informed us that she had a family emergency and that she could not make it, but she would like to be considered for future interviews. |
| 00:26:32.63 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:26:36.96 | Steven Woodside | Okay. That's nice of her to let us know. Okay, Hank Baker. |
| 00:26:45.40 | Hank Baker | Good afternoon, all. I came to Sausalito in 1976 and opened up a restaurant where the barrel house is. It was called Slinky's Almonte, just before Hullahan's. I was wise enough to get out of that about a year and a half into it and get into real estate development with David Irmer from the industry companies and was with them for quite a while. Through my career, my main focus has been real estate development with a focus on marketing and imaging of communities, the largest of which was the Stapleton project in Denver, where we did 15,000 houses. won a whole bunch of national awards for for how we did that and how we created community. which largely I was in charge of. Um, moved back after living in Newport Beach in Denver. move back here. more than 10 years ago now. And two years ago, bought shipping mail. At 11... 1001 Bridgeway. where every day I get to sit and discuss the problems of the world and the community with more or less 700 residents given my background and given the fact that I live downtown, I've seen what the town can be and what it is now. And I think that there's areas that have been tremendously addressed and there's areas that need some focus. The main thing was when I sat in on the EDAC meeting last month, I asked the question of can you articulate the brand of Sausalito? To me, that's the main thing that whether you're running ship and mail or whether you're running a town or a state, you need a brand so that everybody that's involved can talk with one voice rather than several voices. And I think that the EDAC committee has that responsibility, and that's one of the many things that I'd like to begin to bring to four, as well as I think several of you have shared probably too many, a 20 page draft white paper of the things I thought that needed to get done, but I backed off on that until we've had this discussion. |
| 00:29:00.48 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Anyone have specific questions for Thank you. I have a, just quickly, since we have time, since you're a small business owner, what do you think, what are the needs of small businesses in Sausalito that we could do a better job of meeting? |
| 00:29:17.58 | Hank Baker | Again, I think that the brand needs a polishing up. I think that I'm really more of a business owner that takes care of the locals. I do have a small amount of tourist business, but I think that with the $2 million plus or minus deficit that the city is running right now, there's three sources of revenue. One is to tax the locals more. That's probably not very popular. One is to cut back on services like police and repairing the roads. That's not very popular. And the other one is how do you How do you incent the visitors to leave more money with us? And I think that conceptually, A great website is sticky. People stay with it longer and buy more things or get more informed. Sausalito needs to be more sticky. And there's many, many ways to address that, some of which I've articulated and some of which I haven't. But I think that with some work in that area, the budget can look better. |
| 00:30:20.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:30:20.98 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:30:20.99 | Unknown | Thank you very much. We really appreciate it. Thanks for coming. |
| 00:30:23.53 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:30:23.59 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:30:23.64 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Okay, so Levi, since we already interviewed you, I think we'll just have, if we have an economic development specific question for him, perhaps. Yeah, of course. Councilman Rothman, why don't you come back up to the dais? |
| 00:30:37.62 | Levi Eastwood | See you all again. |
| 00:30:38.63 | Ian Sobieski | Hi, nice to see you again. So we got your impressive emergency preparedness background, which is impressive. I've said that twice. So tell us your background with economic development, why you find that that's interesting and want to devote hours of time out of your day to make that successful. |
| 00:30:43.91 | Levi Eastwood | Yes. |
| 00:30:56.74 | Levi Eastwood | Absolutely, and I hope this can be even more impressive. Currently, my wife and I moved to Sausalito this year in January. I currently work in San Francisco with the consulting firm Deloitte. We work on a lot of economic development projects. Several years ago, I earned an MBA from the University of California with an emphasis on economic development. And one of the key things that I'm doing right now is I'm part of a group called Leadership San Francisco through the Chamber of Commerce in San Francisco. And it's through that program I've really realized how groups like EDAC is the conduit between government, local businesses, and the community at large to make things actually happen. And I'd love to be there and be a part of. In one year's time, I've already met many business owners of a wide variety. My wife works in the Marin ship for a small business, and it's – It's just fascinating to see this side of Sausalito, where I know so many people come here as tourists and they don't really go past Caledonia Street. And I think there's so much more to offer in Sausalito. And there's such an economy that's ready to thrive, especially for young business owners. And I think there's a lot of great work to be done. |
| 00:32:16.13 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. |
| 00:32:17.26 | Levi Eastwood | Thank you. |
| 00:32:18.80 | Steven Woodside | Okay, Eric Halverson. |
| 00:32:22.41 | Walfred Solorzano | He's not going to be available for any of his interviews. He is out of the country right now. |
| 00:32:27.51 | Steven Woodside | Okay, Chantel Shannon. |
| 00:32:35.51 | Steven Woodside | Okay, all right, so we will move on to historic preservation committee applicants. Eric Halverson, you mentioned, is out of the country, so that means that our first is Brad Cornelius. And we are ahead of schedule. Hi, Brad, welcome. Thank you for being here. |
| 00:32:50.61 | Brad Cornelius | I appreciate it. I'm a head of schedule. How are you? |
| 00:32:52.89 | Steven Woodside | We're well, thank you. |
| 00:32:54.12 | Brad Cornelius | Good. Let me know if you would just like a little background or if you have a specific question. |
| 00:32:57.26 | Steven Woodside | Yes, it would be great to have a little background and then your interest in the Historic Preservation Committee. |
| 00:33:00.95 | Brad Cornelius | Thank you. |
| 00:33:00.97 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:33:01.04 | Brad Cornelius | Thank you. |
| 00:33:01.06 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:33:01.19 | Brad Cornelius | Yeah, sure. Well, just the general short-term background here is that my wife and I moved to Salcelito about three years ago. And prior to that, we were in Chicago for 45 years. I'm an art director and a graphic designer and I've also been the harbor manager at Galilee Harbor for the past year. I've also been involved with the SOS Legal Working Waterfront Coalition, which I got involved in shortly after moving here in order to get a better understanding of how the town works, what it needs, how I can help. Um, I'm incredibly interested in the historic side of this town and the impact that that has on tourism, as well as just sort of the character and the soul of the town in general. I think that coming from Chicago, if any of you are familiar with the history of historic preservation, it's one of the places in the country that sort of blueprinted the notion that by finding ways to adaptively reuse buildings and find ways that they can serve us today, that we have a greater rich fabric to work with as far as our housing stock and even municipal buildings, libraries and and retail. So, um, My history with this goes way back unprofessionally. I've never been an architect or gotten a degree in that realm, but it's something I've always been interested in. And so I'm sort of self-taught. architecture fan and Um, |
| 00:34:43.99 | Unknown | pause the clock for a second. |
| 00:34:44.99 | Brad Cornelius | Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
| 00:34:48.92 | Unknown | Is everything okay? |
| 00:34:53.49 | Brad Cornelius | Thank you. if it was okay there. |
| 00:34:57.39 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:34:57.58 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Sorry, pardon the interruption, Brad. I appreciate it. Not at all. |
| 00:35:01.34 | Brad Cornelius | So not at all. Thank you. well, we'll use up all that time that we saved. |
| 00:35:05.24 | Steven Woodside | Aha. |
| 00:35:05.90 | Brad Cornelius | Be back on schedule in no time. |
| 00:35:06.05 | Bethany Murguia | Thank you. |
| 00:35:07.84 | Brad Cornelius | Yeah, my wife and I lived in a 1930s condo when we lived in Evanston, Illinois, and had a wonderful time sort of digging into the history of all that. I'm a history buff as well. So I love looking into the story behind the places where we live and figuring out ways to work with owners, with architects, with landlords to preserve elements that enhance the way that we use the places that we live and work. |
| 00:35:36.49 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. We have questions from the dais for Brad. |
| 00:35:37.40 | Brad Cornelius | of course. |
| 00:35:42.70 | Brad Cornelius | Thanks very much. Appreciate it. |
| 00:35:44.25 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:35:45.28 | Walfred Solorzano | Mayor Chantel Shannon, she arrived at 533. That's exactly on time. |
| 00:35:50.23 | Steven Woodside | That's exactly on time. So we were ahead of schedule. So if she's here, I would love to. Jantel, you want it? Great. So Chantel, just for references, is an applicant for Economic Development Advisory Committee. Hi, welcome. |
| 00:36:02.76 | Chantel Shannon | Hello, good evening or good afternoon, 533. With the darkness, it's kind of throwing me off where the time is concerned. Thank you for the time today and allowing me to speak. Yes. |
| 00:36:17.97 | Steven Woodside | So if you could give us a little bit of background and your interest in the Economic Development Advisory Committee, please. |
| 00:36:23.27 | Chantel Shannon | Absolutely. I first become intrigued with being a part of the community when I became a citizen in 2018. I got connected with the League of Women Voters there, and I found how important and pivotal their work is when I was in Minnesota. I developed a connection in helping them with community events, tabling, and so on. and saw how diversity was very impactful, especially in northern Minnesota. and the outreach that was provided. During that time, even though this was in Minnesota, I carried over all these initiatives when I just moved to Sausalito. And what gravitated me into this beautiful area is the opportunity that there is to promote diversity, also educate as many people as possible, and especially with the Sausalito Pride event, the first event that there was in Sausalito got involved, volunteered, and connected with amazing people throughout the way. And this is why it was very important for me to apply for this role because I do have the experience and also have the vision and a lot of ideas as to how we can improve the city especially in that realm. |
| 00:37:54.32 | Steven Woodside | Great. Thank you very much. Maybe since the – I'll just ask a question unless others have a question. Okay. So since this is for the Economic Development Advisory Committee and in your resume you have a breadth of different types of experiences, what is – and you mentioned it's nice to hear you say at our event that's what inspired you to want to get more engaged. What are some of the ideas you mentioned specifically that might apply for this committee or that you would want to share with us? I think it will. |
| 00:38:20.72 | Chantel Shannon | Yes, I mean, especially in this role, not only with Sausalito Pride, but also with the Sausalito Aides Hall, how I got very involved with that, learning about the history. especially not only for the center, but also for Sausalito. And how it can be of asset is I'm a great team leader, team player, so I'm able to foster that relationship there is with persons on the team and come up with ways that we can not only promote events, but also educate. What is that like? Also, in my spare time, I do volunteer with a group group. social platform that allows expats to learn more about the city as well as their surroundings. So how can I be of an asset to even steer them in the right direction of where to go, where resources is concerned, where to get medical care if they don't have proper insurance, or where to vote, how could they vote and stuff like that. That is where I need to be able to educate myself in order to be an advocate there. And I believe I would be an excellent part of our committee member in that space. |
| 00:39:39.81 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. Do we have other questions from the diocese? |
| 00:39:43.42 | Melissa Blaustein | I'm curious why you picked EDAC in particular, and are you interested in any other commission in Soslita? |
| 00:39:44.00 | Chantel Shannon | Right. |
| 00:39:44.22 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:39:51.18 | Chantel Shannon | This is a great question. I definitely chose the committee because Scott Thornberg, we worked together in volunteering, and he mentioned about all the work that's been going on in that committee. And it's definitely aligned with what I've done before. I'm open to be a part of other committees if that allows. And I'll be able to... see how I can do cross-functional planning and execution, and take it from there. |
| 00:40:29.36 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. Really appreciate you coming in. And you were right on time. So I'm sorry that we skipped over. But thank you for being here. |
| 00:40:36.71 | Chantel Shannon | I was actually outside like oh am I supposed to go inside I wasn't sure so it's great thank you for your time |
| 00:40:40.85 | Steven Woodside | I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO Thank you. Thank you for your time. Thank you very much. Okay, so we'll return to Historic Preservation Committee applicants and the next applicant is David Kornmeyer. |
| 00:40:55.18 | David Kornmeyer | Hello, I'm David Kornmeier. I live in Sausalito with my wife. We moved here to live and work in, I think, 2016. And so I am an architect. I'm licensed in California, New York, and Colorado. And I have quite a bit of experience on some historic preservation projects. I have experience working with the town of Sausalito. I was the project manager at 101 Caledonia Street for the rebuild of the Marin Theater all the way through from start to completion and sitting. and so I've also worked on some adaptive reuse, a lot of projects in Aspen, renovating historical Victorians and modernization to the interior of them. And then I've done some pro bono work on some kind of where I grew up in New York on a national historic listed project that was a one room schoolhouse built in the 1860s that we were. it's used as the town hall and converting it in, making it more ADA accessible and bringing like, all the insulation everything up a little bit more to code for what you could do with the plank building at least. So I've always been kind of interested in preservation. I love Sausalito. I've lived here for several years now. and, uh, I've really enjoyed kind of watching the community change a little bit and younger families moving in, things like that, the parks. I really think there's a lot going on here. I love the waterfront and, you know, just all the outdoor activities that we get to enjoy the beauty. Yeah. |
| 00:42:47.36 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. Do we have questions? Yes, please. Go for the box. |
| 00:42:49.57 | David Kornmeyer | Um, |
| 00:42:50.84 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:42:50.85 | Joan Cox | It's very interesting to hear of your work on historic facilities elsewhere. Do you have any knowledge or understanding of of historic traditions here in Sausalito. |
| 00:43:06.21 | David Kornmeyer | Um, like somewhat, um, just kind of, of like some of the ship building and all of that. So, um, I've kind of looked at some of that area down there for the World War II docks and things like that, um, dry docks. And we did a lot of research, like when we went through the theater, um, cause it was like, you know, 1890s as an auto center, it was, um, it served a lot of different purposes before it was a theater, uh, it was a boat building area. So kind of some stuff like that. And we did some research with the Historical Society on that. And then when we presented to city council several times, kind of tried to weave that into the design of that. And that's why we came up with the wood screen representative of the time when it was a boat building. So that's kind of part of the concept. |
| 00:43:50.10 | Joan Cox | I was part of that process. That was a fascinating and really inspiring process. Thank you for that. |
| 00:43:57.22 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:43:57.24 | Unknown | That's a member of Kilman. |
| 00:43:57.97 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:44:00.33 | Jill Hoffman | Great, thank you. Thank you, David. Fascinating to hear about your conversation or your involvement with 1-1-1 Caledonia. I also was on the Planning Commission during some of that time period, I'm wondering, you know, given the historic importance of that of that property. What are some thoughts that you might have for use cases for that property that could continue to enhance, but also sit well within the historic nature of the Caledonia Street area. |
| 00:44:25.27 | David Kornmeyer | I think for that, it's a very prominent corner. I think it's definitely lends itself well to, like, an entertainment type of space. I think it's, you know, just being a person as a resident, I think. I don't think anyone wants something in there more than I do. I think, like, any type of music, food. It's big for a single restaurant, so I think it does need to be something that probably has a couple uses. It's hard to fill a 5,400-square-foot space with a single restaurant. Games, things like that. But hopefully it would be a community, like a place to draw residents and tourists to Caledonia Street. And you can go to Caledonia now, and it's pretty amazing how much more traffic is there than ever used to be. So it's great to see, and I think... It's a big disadvantage to not have all those spaces filled to everyone that lives here. |
| 00:45:28.75 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much for your time and also for your work on that project. Okay. |
| 00:45:33.73 | David Kornmeyer | And then I just wanted to add one thing. I would also be interested in planning commission if that was open up. So historic preservation would be my second pick for that. |
| 00:45:36.26 | Steven Woodside | THE FAMILY IS Thank you. |
| 00:45:40.95 | Unknown | that. |
| 00:45:44.09 | Steven Woodside | Council member Hoffman, do you want to quickly? No? Okay, great. Oh, okay, great. Thank you very much. Thank you. All right. |
| 00:45:51.87 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 00:45:52.49 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 00:45:52.78 | Walfred Solorzano | I'm not sure. We saw that Elizabeth Carter, who applied for the Community Safety Disaster Preparedness Committee, We see that she... Oh, she logged off. She left. All right. |
| 00:46:02.50 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:46:03.68 | Walfred Solorzano | you |
| 00:46:04.12 | Steven Woodside | Okay, it's now 45 minutes past the number of your time. So when did she log on? |
| 00:46:07.40 | Walfred Solorzano | so She logged on about, yeah, about the next one. |
| 00:46:12.05 | Steven Woodside | Okay, so let's move on to Library Board of Trustee applicants and we'll start with Julianne Krim. We have Julianne here or in Zoom. |
| 00:46:21.96 | Walfred Solorzano | Do not see her. |
| 00:46:23.36 | Steven Woodside | Okay. Sydney Dowell. Hi, welcome. Thank you for being with us. Thanks for your interest in serving. |
| 00:46:30.21 | Deborah Muchmore | Thank you. A great group of people. I feel very lucky to be a part of it. |
| 00:46:35.31 | Unknown | I'm Sydney Dowell. My partner Robert and I have lived here in Sausalito for about 10 years. Let's see. saw the call for something, you know, to be a volunteer in Sausalito and the library. Arena is a favorite of mine, not only because of course I like libraries and books, but I feel like a library is the most important place for access in a community and it can serve as a great community resource and a place for people together to come together And I want to see that happen. I think the library needs support and help. I would like to be a part of that. My background in this arena, pardon me, I, years and years and years ago, actually attended Syracuse University and had wanted to pursue a master's in library science and resource management. And that was all around when technology and computer use was coming out and I felt that that combination of degrees would help me help people access information and access computers. While the technology kind of has moved along, I think people still need a way to access information and I think The other thing that's quite important is that People have a place to come where they have a refuge in being able to access information and to be and to learn and to have their space and it be safe and hospitable to all people. And that it. and that, Thoughts and ideas can be freely shared, and that's where you can do that in the library. I think that's kind of what I want to say. |
| 00:48:33.47 | Unknown | Thank you, Sydney. Do we have questions? |
| 00:48:36.77 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you very much. Thanks for being with us. Okay. And then we'll hear from Bethany. |
| 00:48:47.44 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:48:47.47 | Bethany Murguia | Welcome, Bethany. Thank you. Hello, Council Members. I'm Bethany Murguia. It's nice to see all of you and thank you for your time this evening. |
| 00:48:50.61 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:48:56.47 | Bethany Murguia | I have been a resident of Sausalito since 1999. aside from a year in LA and a year in Vancouver, And every time I've moved to a new place, the first place I go is the library. It's the place where I go to find community. It's the place where I go to get a sense of what a particular town or place is all about. So I think libraries are incredibly important spaces in our communities. I believe strongly in the power of books to create empathy. to change lives and to change the world. And to that end, I've been working as an illustrator and a writer of books for about 15 years now. I write books for children. I have watched our library transform under Abbott's incredible work. Also, my children were very much in the Aaron Wilson era here, and we participated in everything that Aaron offered. So I've watched this library grow and flourish through their efforts. We were away for the subsequent children's librarian. But I would like to be part of continuing to help this library to flourish. I've seen what happens when libraries become community meeting spots. I would love to see more of a community reading program to bring people together. We don't have enough gathering spots for discourse, public discourse these days, for people to share ideas in safe places. potentially to not have it really have any consequence where people are fighting about what the outcome will be, but just to share ideas. So I think there are a lot of things along those lines that potentially we can be doing more of. You could always put a cafe in there too. I'm just saying the library in Vancouver was pretty fantastic for that. But anyway, that's a little bit of my background and some of the reasons why I'd like to be involved. |
| 00:50:54.57 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. Do we have any questions from the diocese, Bethany? Okay, thank you so much for your interest in serving and for being with us. Okay, Randa. Randa and Mara, do we have Randa here? |
| 00:51:10.44 | Walfred Solorzano | Yeah, we're about three minutes ahead. She's not here. |
| 00:51:14.39 | Daniel Shador | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:51:16.07 | Steven Woodside | I see that we have Kieran here and we can |
| 00:51:16.11 | Daniel Shador | Thank you. |
| 00:51:21.83 | Walfred Solorzano | We do have Elizabeth Carter back on if you wanted to. |
| 00:51:27.65 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:51:27.73 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:51:28.22 | Unknown | Thank you. you Thank you. |
| 00:51:32.38 | Walfred Solorzano | Elizabeth Carter? She's in? Yeah. |
| 00:51:33.93 | Unknown | She's an- Yeah. |
| 00:51:40.54 | Walfred Solorzano | Elizabeth, pardon me. |
| 00:51:44.66 | Elizabeth Carter | Hi, can you hear me? Thank you. |
| 00:51:45.91 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Yes. So we're just having folks give a little bit about their background and their interest in serving in the role. And then we may have some questions from the diocese. |
| 00:51:54.94 | Elizabeth Carter | Absolutely. Sure. I apologize for being so late. I've had some trouble with my computer and I'm actually sick as a dog. So I apologize for that as well. But, Thank you so much for the chance to interview. I've been on the committee for a couple of years now. I joined in 2020 in the weird times of, I think it was October 2020, and participated until I think we kind of lost our critical mass a couple of months ago. But I've been in the emergency preparedness field, disaster response, cybersecurity, cybersecurity. public sector and private sector for a number of years now. It's been my career since, I guess, 2009. And I have worked in the field in the public sector for New York City for a number of years as well. I've been a CERT volunteer for Marin County since 2017. I have been an alternate on the steering committee for CERT as well, so I have tried to bring together the cert The CERT organization of the county with the disaster preparedness committee as well to kind of merge our activities so there isn't a redundancy of efforts. And I'm hoping to continue those efforts as well as CERT continues to kind of grow and expand in Marin and hopefully help Sausalito get more involved with CERT as well as the NRGs, which I know are pretty active in town. I look forward to hopefully continuing to serve on this committee for another term. And hopefully we can get our critical mass back and get things going again. |
| 00:53:27.36 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. Do we have questions from the dais for Elizabeth? Okay, that's, thank you. Oh yes, Councilmember Hillman, please. |
| 00:53:35.87 | Jill Hoffman | Great, thank you. Elizabeth, nice to see you again. And since you are already serving, I'm going to ask you the same question I asked Jane, which is, what do you see as things that you guys have done well, and where do you see the biggest room for improvement? |
| 00:53:51.58 | Elizabeth Carter | I think we've done well by, I think, soliciting some interesting ideas from the public, as well as helping to advance some of this more cross-functional communication across, as I said, CERT was something that we wanted to integrate a little bit more. NRGs wanted to integrate some of that work a little bit more and trying to figure out what else we could do, what volunteer opportunities for folks. things would get information out to people who want to know how to prepare their families for earthquakes or any other kinds of fires, anything else like that, that I think is on people's minds. So I think we did a good job there. I think where we really fell down on the job is we lost some people. And then we obviously have been not meeting for a while because we don't have enough people. So I think we need to kind of continue to engage folks and, uh, get out there and maybe try to recruit some more people to, uh, to plug in and, and help us, uh, reach more, um, people in town who might be interested in learning more about how to prepare themselves in their neighborhoods. |
| 00:54:51.60 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much, Elizabeth, and thank you for your service thus far on the Disaster Preparedness Committee. We really appreciate it. Okay, so we'll move on to Ped Bike, Pedestrian Bike Advisory Committee applicants, and I believe we have Jenny Silva on Zoom, correct? |
| 00:55:05.12 | Walfred Solorzano | I think so. |
| 00:55:05.79 | Steven Woodside | Okay, can start with her. |
| 00:55:11.16 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:55:11.21 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. Okay. |
| 00:55:11.53 | Steven Woodside | I'm not. |
| 00:55:11.65 | Jenny Silva | Okay. |
| 00:55:11.89 | Steven Woodside | is. |
| 00:55:11.92 | Jill Hoffman | Is that with us? |
| 00:55:13.18 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:55:14.05 | Jenny Silva | Hi there. It's nice to see you all. I wish I could be there in person tonight, but I have to be on Zoom, but thank you for allowing me to interview for this position and really believe strongly in the work that the pedestrian and bike committee are doing. I think it's really important. Sausalito has a huge amount of bike and pedestrian traffic. And, um, There's also a fair number of accidents. And so I think this is a really important committee for the city and would love to be a part of it. |
| 00:55:48.88 | Unknown | Thank you, Jenny. Do we have questions for Jenny from the audience? I have one just knowing that you previously served. |
| 00:55:54.85 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:55:54.95 | Unknown | just knowing that you previously served |
| 00:55:56.82 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:55:56.89 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:55:56.97 | Jill Hoffman | I know. |
| 00:55:57.03 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:55:58.49 | Unknown | Thank you. Quite weird, quite weird. |
| 00:56:01.73 | Steven Woodside | Okay. Okay. Just knowing that you've already previously served on the- Housing Element Advisory Committee and thank you for your service to our community. What do you think, what interests you in continuing to be involved? |
| 00:56:02.56 | Unknown | Just knowing that you've already preserved on |
| 00:56:16.11 | Jenny Silva | Um... Well, the... This is obviously a very different committee than what I was working on before. And you might not be aware I actually applied for this when I first moved to Sausalito and at that time you didn't accept 94965 applicants and so I wasn't able to be part of it. But I am at the houseboats and so the Sausalito bike paths directly impact me. This is something that's very personal to all of us in the houseboat community, so that's a big part of why I'm interested in this. Although I'm in technically unincorporated Marin. Sausalito is my town and that's where I spend my time and I think I walked downtown to downtown Sausalito at least once a week. And so it's infrastructure that I use very, very frequently. And so I would like to be um, part of the folks working on it. |
| 00:57:19.17 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, Jenny. Do we have any other questions? Okay, we'll move on to Kieran. Hi, welcome. Nice to see you. |
| 00:57:28.67 | Kieran | Good evening. You know me, so I don't want to do any spiels, but you're welcome to ask me your most difficult questions or I can just pass. |
| 00:57:38.14 | Joan Cox | I'll just say thank you for your public comment on some of our agenda items this evening. Very helpful and thoughtful. |
| 00:57:45.58 | Kieran | Thank you. |
| 00:57:46.80 | Steven Woodside | Anyone else have advice? |
| 00:57:47.98 | Melissa Blaustein | I would love to ask you the same question I asked one of the other applicants earlier. With your experience on the pedestrian bicycle advisory committee, what advice or feedback would you give us about how PVEC and other committees could work better with city council or vice versa? |
| 00:58:04.84 | Kieran | I think Councilmember Cox's suggestion on agenda setting last time to like bring in committees. It's been a while, and so I think just having that dialogue and connectivity is really useful of like where we're fully aligned or we're not fully aligned, like where we have work to do. And then the other big one is along those lines is grants. I was at ATP is this big federal grant program and Santa Cruz got $150 million for some bike trails for their area. And like, when I saw that, I was like. We could be doing that. That could be Sausalito. There's no other place that we're going to get eight digit or nine digit. infrastructure funds like and it doesn't just put in the cycle track, it fixes the road and it fixes the sewers and it does the intersections, right? It's paying for everything. So I would love to see us work towards that. |
| 00:58:56.26 | Unknown | Any other questions for Karen? Councilman Robin, yeah, go ahead, please. |
| 00:59:00.49 | Ian Sobieski | No, thank you for that. And I know you guys do a tremendous amount of work, and thanks for the dollars you've already brought to Sausalito, which I think are substantial. So thank you for that. One of the questions, I guess I have two questions. One is, do you see a capability for the actual PBAC to take on some of the work of applying for grants? |
| 00:59:23.98 | Kieran | Oh yeah, we've pre-written grants. I mean, sometimes we're out of the flow with city manager and Director McGowan, like what the exact priorities are, but like, we were happy to write them up, like make images, diagrams, write copy, like we're ready to go. |
| 00:59:40.70 | Ian Sobieski | That's great. That's great. I have a, okay, so now this is a trickier question for you. So... We love the work that our boards and commissions do. And one of the problems, it's not a problem, but the challenge of the city council is we get this great work and this great assessment from a committee, but then we have to look at it in the context of everything else, holistically of the whole city. And so I think sometimes that's disappointing for people on the boards and commissions who work really hard on certain projects, but when it comes at this level. we're balancing that project against other you know, very, very complex things that we're trying to address. And so. Um, I would be interested in your perspective on how, you know, I know, and like I said, I know it's disappointing for people on the boards and commissions. But I want to be sure that they feel supported and that their work is valuable even if we have to unfortunately, you know, address a certain higher priority. So what's your take on that? And how can we do, I mean, I just want to make sure that when we have to do that, that people in your position understand how much we value the work. And so any comments you'd like to share would be great. And for those who are listening and watching, Kieran's been on the bike and ped for a number of years now. You're into your first term, right? Yeah, I did the first. Yeah, yeah, yeah, obviously. And so you're interviewing for your second term. So anyway, thank you for that. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. |
| 01:00:55.04 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 01:00:55.38 | Kieran | Thank you. |
| 01:00:55.41 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 01:00:58.90 | Kieran | Yeah, yeah, no, I fully appreciate the trade offs. Your job over there is a lot easier than my job over here because I don't have to make some of those hard calls you have to make. I think I would actually take some of it back to the grant signing fund of it because a lot of it does come down to my money. being able to put project managers on something, doing being able to do community outreach. And if we're trying to scrape that all together out of our general fund, like that's a tough, tough call where if we can supplement it, I think it opens up the possibilities greatly. So whether it's bike lanes, pedestrian safety, sea level rise, I think we open the aperture by having grant funds. |
| 01:01:33.80 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:01:33.88 | Unknown | Thank you for that. Yeah, I appreciate that. Thank you. |
| 01:01:37.78 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. Councilmember, did you have your hand up or are you? No? Okay. We are a little bit ahead. I just want to make sure Randa didn't come in. |
| 01:01:43.40 | Walfred Solorzano | are a little bit ahead of |
| 01:01:47.74 | Steven Woodside | No. |
| 01:01:48.23 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 01:01:49.85 | Steven Woodside | Okay, well, we'll go ahead and move on to sustainability commission, because I know at least one of those people is here. So if we have to go out of order, I can call on. Um, Sorry, Councilman Wilkman, did you have your hand up? It looks like you're, no? Okay, great. So I don't see David here. Is he on Zoom? |
| 01:02:05.32 | Walfred Solorzano | David Cooper? Nope. |
| 01:02:07.84 | Steven Woodside | Okay, what about Samantha? She works. |
| 01:02:12.80 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 01:02:12.82 | Steven Woodside | Nope. Okay, well we'll get started with Mark Palmer because I see him in the room. been serving on the, he's actually the chair of the Sustainability Commission, so. this year. |
| 01:02:22.97 | Mark Palmer | Vice Chair. |
| 01:02:23.93 | Steven Woodside | Vice chair, pardon. |
| 01:02:25.76 | Mark Palmer | Uh, |
| 01:02:26.43 | Steven Woodside | Okay, great. Just making sure. Okay, so yeah, if you could just give us a little bit of your background, and we know you've been serving for quite some time, so thank you very much for that, Mark. |
| 01:02:35.22 | Mark Palmer | Mark Palmer, Good evening, Madam Mayor and Council members, my name is Mark Palmer I dedicated great building professional with decades of experience in energy efficiency. Mark Palmer, Renewable energy water conservation waste management healthy building materials and indoor air quality i've served as Commission Secretary and and i'm now currently the Vice Chair. And looking forward to continuing to serve the city. I spearheaded the effort to require electric leaf blowers in town and in lieu of the noisy and polluting gas burning equipment And I look forward to further reducing Sausalito's climate impact through electrification of new construction, especially toward the 724 units identified in the city's housing element. Very important to the commission and to myself personally. I'm very excited to see 3A, item 3A on the agenda tonight to affirm the city's heat pump water heater retrofit upgrade program. And I truly look forward to serving a second term. I appreciate your attention to that. Thank you. |
| 01:03:59.16 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much, Mark. Yes, Councilmember Kellman. |
| 01:04:02.37 | Jill Hoffman | Great. Thanks. Hey, Mark. Thanks for being here and thank you for all your great work. I'm just curious, you know, years ago when we first got into this field, there was only sustainability, then it became resilience and then the things were separate. But now we're seeing more and more of a dovetailing. What do you see the Sustainability Commission's role in and around resilient or opportunities to make our community more resilient? So you mentioned something on consent around the heat pumps, but I'm wondering, you know, the sea level rise of vulnerability assessment is on the business items. And I'd love your perspective on where you guys think it might play a role |
| 01:04:37.20 | Mark Palmer | What was the last part, perspective on |
| 01:04:39.46 | Jill Hoffman | where you might play a role as we start to see less of a siloed between things that are resilient and things that are sustainable. |
| 01:04:45.95 | Mark Palmer | Great. Yes, certainly there's the confluence of sustainability and resilience. And to me, it's always been pretty much the same. I really, as you know, the sea level rise task force grew out of interest in the sustainability commission. And we've had a representative of our current chair, Greg Thompson, on the Sea Level Rise Task Force. And obviously, that's the adaptation part of climate, whereas the electrification and energy efficiency part is more of the mitigation and reducing our impact. So those two go hand in hand, and we have to do both mitigation and adaptation at the same time. |
| 01:05:33.88 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Do we have any other questions from Zaias? I'll just ask Ian's question, Weissmer's question, which is since you've been serving on the commission for a full term now, what do you think that we can improve in terms of the council's relationship with the sustainability commission? |
| 01:05:50.43 | Mark Palmer | Well, I think that we've had a very good relationship with council, especially since our mayor has been a previous commissioner. and is now continuing as our liaison to the city council and One of the things we lobbied for for quite a while was to get a staff member dedicated to resiliency and sustainability. And now we have Katie Garcia on board. It's just been a great asset to our commission and to the city, I believe. She's doing a... wonderful bang-up job of writing grants and doing RFPs and doing all the things that a staff person can do that the volunteers on the on the Commission don't have the bandwidth or the even the ability to contribute there. So it's been really, really helpful. Thank you. |
| 01:06:39.81 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much, Mark. Okay. Thank you so much for your time. Thanks for being with us and for your service thus far. Truly appreciate it. Thank you so much. Okay. Is Samantha Schubert here or on the Zoom? |
| 01:06:45.11 | Mark Palmer | Thank you so much. |
| 01:06:45.77 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 01:06:51.15 | Walfred Solorzano | No. |
| 01:06:52.13 | Steven Woodside | Okay, well, Levi, welcome back. We, um, Nice to see you again for a third time this evening. We appreciate your enthusiasm for Sausalito's boards and commissions. And perhaps you could just tell us a little bit about your interest in the Sustainability Commission. |
| 01:07:08.01 | Levi Eastwood | Absolutely. Great to see you all again. Sorry, I went a little nuts with the applications this year. So first and forefront, the perspective that I would bring to this commission is strictly through a business lens. A lot of the work that I do in projects through Deloitte is in sustainability for businesses. Over the last two years, I've been working on a business model. Dove in quite heavily on certifications for ESG and sustainability for business specifically. And a lot of my interest, passion and scope, I think, could be nested in this commission, but also... in EDAC as well. I really see a partnership there. One of the projects we're working right now at Deloitte is an initiative called Yes, San Francisco Urban Sustainability. You know of it. So tomorrow we are actually welcoming our 14 winning teams or companies rather. This was a group of 140 folks, different companies that applied, all from San Francisco and seen behind the scenes of, of the activation of this is we have an immense amount of sustainability knowledge, I could never compare to Mark here. It seems like he has way more experience in this. But where I do see some value to potentially go is partnerships with government, local businesses, and really forming that partnership. So right now, the city of San Francisco, Deloitte, Salesforce, and City, and 20-plus other groups have come together and really opened the door for small businesses that are thriving on sustainability to just unleash in San Francisco. And I think we could do that in Sausalito. So, again, this could be very much an EDAC initiative as well, but or more probably efficiently, it could be a partnership. |
| 01:08:56.68 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. Do we have any other questions? Nope. Okay. Thanks again, Levi. |
| 01:09:00.43 | Levi Eastwood | That's it for me. Thank you all. |
| 01:09:01.71 | Steven Woodside | Okay, yeah. Thank you very much. Do we have David Cooper on? Has he joined the Zoom? I don't see him in the audience, but. Thank you. |
| 01:09:11.06 | Walfred Solorzano | Yeah. |
| 01:09:11.43 | Steven Woodside | No. And what about Samantha Schubert? |
| 01:09:14.34 | Walfred Solorzano | No. |
| 01:09:15.21 | Steven Woodside | Okay, Mark Moore. Hi, welcome. Okay, great. |
| 01:09:26.59 | Mark Glenn Moore | Well, good evening. Happy Tuesday. My name is Mark Glenn Moore. I'm a businessman entrepreneur. I've been, um, 10-year resident of Sausalito, long-term Marin resident. I'm a fourth-generation San Franciscan. I have over 20 years in renewable energy. experience with a couple of US design patents. And I just most recently formed my first nonprofit on March 10th of this year. and the IRS gave us the nonprofit tax-exempt status at that point. And my nonprofit is to develop renewable Let me back up. My nonprofit... is to write grants for state and federal monies to build renewable energy products on Native American tribal lands, and underserved communities. which I believe Marin City might qualify for that, Oakland does. I have partners, business partners in the Phoenix area. I've been working for over 20 years with the Navajo Indian tribe and the Hopis and White Mountain Apache Indians. I've been part of writing, helping write grants. I've led a couple of feasibility studies. And so that's what got me interested in meeting and talking with you, I want to bring my experience home. I want to see if I can tap into my resources and, And as you know, a 501c3 can write grants. So we have the ability to go after all this federal money, especially with this current administration. There's millions of dollars in grants for these renewable energy projects. So that's why I'm here. |
| 01:11:15.92 | Steven Woodside | Great. Thank you very much. Do we have questions from the dais? |
| 01:11:21.22 | Mark Glenn Moore | I have a question. |
| 01:11:22.70 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 01:11:23.14 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:11:23.58 | Mark Glenn Moore | This has been popping into my mind. So I have a 501c3 non-profit. If... This council... asked me to take this position and I accept. Am I in a conflict of interest? |
| 01:11:40.52 | Ian Sobieski | That's an interesting question. And I think what we would do is run that past our city attorney. Okay. |
| 01:11:47.46 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 01:11:47.78 | Ian Sobieski | But if you don't, if your lanes don't cross, then then I don't think it would be a conflict. But if your lane of effort conflicted or crossed with the city, then you might want we we would want to look at that. So and my goal. I'm sorry. |
| 01:12:00.50 | Mark Glenn Moore | And my goal, I'm sorry. Thank you. |
| 01:12:02.27 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah, no, go ahead. |
| 01:12:02.97 | Mark Glenn Moore | Sorry about that. My goal is to partner with the city of Sausalito and bring money to develop renewable energy in ways we can do it here. not an abundant land resource for renewable, right? We have some rooftop space and stuff, but there's other ways to build projects that we can wheel energy here. My dealings have been with PPAs with utility companies. I've negotiated a number of PPAs and I've worked out land deals and such. So I just want to state that I would rather work with you as my nonprofit to bring these projects If it turns out that this is a conflict of interest, then I would take myself off. |
| 01:12:48.18 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much for that. We appreciate your interest and your time. OK, so that concludes our interviews this evening. I'll note that we do have additional applicants for the Planning Commission will be hearing those interviews at the December 19th meeting at which we will be making appointments. So thank you so much. This is such a great demonstration of the talent. |
| 01:12:49.04 | Mark Glenn Moore | Okay, thanks. |
| 01:12:49.66 | Doreen Gounard | Thank you. |
| 01:12:50.86 | Steven Woodside | All right. |
| 01:13:04.75 | Steven Woodside | and commitment and excitement about our community we have here in Sausalito. So we so appreciate all of you. Thank you. |
| 01:13:09.64 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 01:13:09.66 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:13:09.67 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 01:13:09.69 | Steven Woodside | I guess |
| 01:13:10.03 | Joan Cox | questions. |
| 01:13:10.27 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:13:10.37 | Joan Cox | that. |
| 01:13:10.57 | Steven Woodside | process. |
| 01:13:10.94 | Joan Cox | you We had someone interview tonight for the HPC who said he's very interested in the Planning Commission. Are people still able to apply to the Planning Commission? Are the applications still being accepted for the Planning Commission? |
| 01:13:30.06 | Walfred Solorzano | Yeah, we're always accepting the application. |
| 01:13:31.71 | Joan Cox | He did not seem aware that that was available. |
| 01:13:35.05 | Walfred Solorzano | I think he emailed me and I think I let him know that he has to submit an application. |
| 01:13:39.68 | Ian Sobieski | I believe he's still in the room. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. |
| 01:13:42.41 | Walfred Solorzano | You received an email from me, right? Yeah. |
| 01:13:44.82 | Ian Sobieski | Okay. |
| 01:13:49.43 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 01:13:49.47 | Steven Woodside | Oh, he checked the box already, so he's a player. He did. Okay. |
| 01:13:49.53 | Walfred Solorzano | Yeah. |
| 01:13:49.60 | Unknown | Thank you. like. |
| 01:13:51.91 | Steven Woodside | Okay, great. Thank you. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Okay. Again, thank you to everyone, and thanks for your time and interest. We truly appreciate it. Okay, so we will now formally begin the meeting. So city. |
| 01:14:10.09 | Steven Woodside | No, 615. |
| 01:14:10.20 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:14:10.22 | Walfred Solorzano | 650. Can we ask the city attorney, because we do have it noted that the call to order for the closed session will be at 6.30. Can we start now? |
| 01:14:21.61 | Steven Woodside | Start now. Oh, 5. Start is for 6.15. Okay. Thank you. |
| 01:14:23.87 | Walfred Solorzano | Oh, sorry. |
| 01:14:25.22 | Steven Woodside | No, that's okay. Okay. |
| 01:14:26.40 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 01:14:29.43 | Steven Woodside | Are we allowed? |
| 01:14:35.36 | Steven Woodside | Can we ask the city attorney if we can start closed session because it would be great to have the time. Yeah, if we can. |
| 01:14:40.93 | Sergio Rudin | Yeah, we can start closed session. |
| 01:14:42.47 | Steven Woodside | We can? Okay, great. Perfect. So, okay. So then I will. Thank you. That's great news. Thank you. Okay, so city clerk, sorry, vice, excuse me, city attorney, I wanna make sure we get this right. Did you want to add anything? |
| 01:14:57.34 | Sergio Rudin | Yeah, I mean, the agenda says that all the start times listed in the agenda are approximate only and should be considered guidelines. So I'm not concerned about us starting early other than starting the meeting before five o'clock. |
| 01:15:07.39 | Steven Woodside | Okay, great. Thank you. |
| 01:15:07.63 | Sergio Rudin | Thank you. |
| 01:15:08.98 | Steven Woodside | Amazing. That's great news. So with that, we will go ahead and formally open the meeting and call to order in the council chambers at 615. City Clerk, would you please call the roll? |
| 01:15:20.59 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Cox. Here. Councilmember Hoffman. Here. Councilmember Kelman. Here. Vice Mayor Sobieski. Mayor Blasdine. |
| 01:15:21.45 | Steven Woodside | Here. Here. Here. |
| 01:15:28.10 | Steven Woodside | And I will note that Councilmember Kelman is participating remotely via Zoom. And are there any special actions that need to be taken city attorney considering the remote participation of Councilmember Kelman? |
| 01:15:43.03 | Sergio Rudin | know. |
| 01:15:44.44 | Steven Woodside | Okay, so that will be noted for the record. Thank you very much. And with that, we will move on to our closed session discussion. On the closed session agenda this evening, we have conference with labor negotiator. government code section 54957.6 and I will go ahead and open that up for public comment at this time. |
| 01:16:01.72 | Walfred Solorzano | We do have one. We have Kieran Culligan. |
| 01:16:04.40 | Steven Woodside | Bye, Kieran. |
| 01:16:06.09 | Kieran | again. Hi again. This is great timing for getting kids to bed. So thanks for letting me do public comment now. That was awesome. I only caught like a third of those interviews, but that was super inspiring. Okay. Clock's ticking. As we think about all the ways that we want to make Saucyuto thrive, of which there are many coming up tonight, I can't think of any scenario that doesn't require us to be able to attract, develop, and retain top talent. City managers, like, obviously at the top of that list. And the deck is just stacked against us in so many ways as a small city in California, right? Like, just ridiculous, ever-increasing amounts of bureaucracy, regulations, policies, outrageous high cost of living, sky-high cost for construction if you want to do infrastructure improvement. The list goes on and on and on. So, This requires creativity, it requires leadership, it requires a lot of things, right? So yes, there's sticker shock on pay. I feel the same thing every time I hire someone on my team and it's like, oh my God, we have to pay what? But it's an investment, right? Is this a line item of cost? We're just trying to reduce as much as possible? Or is this something that is actually going to help pay dividends in terms of how we run this place? People are mentioning costs a lot in comments. And I want to hopefully in closed session discuss like what's the flip side of costs, right? Like what's the cost of churn? What's the cost of having all of our institutional knowledge leave? What's the cost of having leadership that doesn't inspire and expect the best of our other employees? What's the cost of missing out on grants, of delaying projects and watching construction costs double over the time that we've delayed on things? So remember the huge, huge costs, way beyond whatever we're talking about here. We shouldn't be afraid to pay for the top talent. I'm certainly not in a place to judge the specific terms and dollar amounts in there. That's for you to cover and decide on. I think there's actually some good points structuring for the bonus and for Um, work from home criteria, but this is a great opportunity. Let's keep it going. Thank you, city manager, city staff, city council. |
| 01:18:01.97 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you very much. Okay, any further public comment at this time? Okay, we'll close public comment and adjourn to closed session, and we'll be back at 7 p.m. for open sessions. |
| 01:18:06.83 | Kieran | I've seen that. |
| 01:18:07.23 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:18:22.33 | Steven Woodside | Danelle, do we have, can we just check the audio, make sure we're good to go there? Thank you. |
| 01:18:25.96 | Jill Hoffman | Thanks. I hear you guys. Can you hear me? |
| 01:18:26.08 | Steven Woodside | I hear you guys. Okay, fantastic. You want to, should we turn it up a little bit? Thank you. Okay, we are now returning from closed session, and there are no closed session announcements. And we will now begin our regularly scheduled city council meetings. The first item on the agenda is the Pledge of Allegiance. So I'm gonna ask Director McGowan to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance today. |
| 01:18:56.49 | Golnihal Kamek | Great. I have a seat in America. to the Republic of which it stands, one nation, one nation, one of the things |
| 01:19:09.16 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:19:13.19 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:19:13.62 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. So the first item on our agenda is approval of the agenda for this evening. Do we have a motion to approve? |
| 01:19:14.09 | Steven Woodside | much. |
| 01:19:21.73 | Joan Cox | So moved. |
| 01:19:22.81 | Steven Woodside | Do I have a second? Thank you, Councilmember Hoffman. Okay, and since Councilmember Kelman is joining us remotely this evening, we will have to take a roll call vote. So please, City Clerk. |
| 01:19:34.95 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Cox. |
| 01:19:36.23 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 01:19:37.29 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Hoffman. Thank you. |
| 01:19:38.64 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 01:19:38.66 | Walfred Solorzano | Yes. Council member coming. |
| 01:19:40.41 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 01:19:40.70 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. Thank you. Vice Mayor Sobieski? Yes. Mayor Blaustin. |
| 01:19:43.98 | Steven Woodside | Yes, motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much. So on the agenda as well for mayor's announcements this evening, I just want to make sure that everyone in the community is aware of our holiday by the bay, which officially kicked off this Saturday with a... Vibrant Christmas tree lighting in Viña del Mar Plaza. And we have a number of additional exciting events. So coming up this Thursday, there is a Spalding Marine Holiday Open House. This coming weekend is the Winterfest. So we'll have our lighted boat parade on Saturday night at 6 p.m. And the Winterfest Sausalito Jingle Bell Run, of which myself and Councilmember Kalman will be participating. So we welcome any community members to race us. And we'll also have a performance from the Marin Symphony Youth Orchestra later that afternoon. The Gingerbread House Tour has the most entrance it has ever had in its history, and that kicks off on the 8th of the month and should be exciting to see. We have a Holiday by the Bay concert on December 10th. and the winter market on December 16th. And of course, all of this information is available at destinationsausalito.com. And we hope to see a number of our community members there because we love celebrating the holidays in Sausalito with all of you. So I wanted to make sure that the community was aware of those dates. So moving on, we have our action minutes from our previous meeting. So I will now ask for a motion to approve the draft minutes of the November 21st, 2023 meeting. And before I do, I'm going to ask for a public comment on this item. |
| 01:21:15.94 | Walfred Solorzano | For anybody in attendance, if you want to make any public comments, there are some speaker forms over by that television and the table. You can fill that out and hand it back over here. If you're on Zoom, you can use the raise hand function. |
| 01:21:28.28 | Steven Woodside | Is there any public comment at this time, city clerk? |
| 01:21:30.39 | Walfred Solorzano | See none. |
| 01:21:31.08 | Steven Woodside | Okay? |
| 01:21:32.01 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. I've seen them. |
| 01:21:32.82 | Steven Woodside | None? Yep. Ms. McDougal has a public comment. |
| 01:21:41.00 | Steven Woodside | We're talking about the minutes from the last council. |
| 01:21:41.76 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:21:43.99 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:21:45.20 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 01:21:50.39 | Babette McDougall | Thank you very much for allowing me to speak. So the one thing that I want to point out from the last, well, other than the blatant disregard for the legalities of the Brown Act, which I pointed out last time, I'd like to remind you, you really need to bone up. You guys were a totally illegal body last time. |
| 01:22:05.56 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:22:07.78 | Babette McDougall | Thank you. |
| 01:22:07.80 | Unknown | So. |
| 01:22:08.58 | Babette McDougall | With that said, I would like to go to the item of PG&E. I want to see this place get better. So. I would like to say about PG&E, I think it really stinks that they want to come into town and redo the overhead stringing stuff. I mean, we've got like, they're like high water. |
| 01:22:25.59 | Steven Woodside | Appoint a border, Mayor. Yes. And I don't see anything in those minutes. |
| 01:22:27.17 | Babette McDougall | And I don't say anything in the minutes about this problem. |
| 01:22:29.33 | Steven Woodside | about. |
| 01:22:29.64 | Steven Woodside | THIS IS A |
| 01:22:31.65 | Babette McDougall | And not only that, there was a comment made about the fact that the whole town of Paradise got the same reassurances and they burned to the ground. So the people in Sausalito are afraid. |
| 01:22:46.58 | Walfred Solorzano | We are. |
| 01:22:50.11 | Unknown | I said, well, |
| 01:23:03.52 | Walfred Solorzano | I'm not sure. |
| 01:23:04.72 | Sybil Boutlier | Hi. Can you hear me okay? Because I cannot hear anything going on in the chamber. I mean, it's very, very soft. I'm wondering if the microphones are turned on. |
| 01:23:16.62 | Walfred Solorzano | Oh, I think it was the precision of Ms. McDougall. That's not my son. |
| 01:23:19.33 | Sybil Boutlier | That's not my sound. |
| 01:23:21.78 | Walfred Solorzano | No, no, no. It was just precision. I think you were the height. |
| 01:23:24.84 | Steven Woodside | Let's check and be sure. Can you hear us now, Sybil? Can we check the volumes, please? Because it's very important. It's very low. |
| 01:23:29.48 | Jill Hoffman | It's very low. |
| 01:23:30.51 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Can you hear us? |
| 01:23:32.70 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:23:32.72 | Joan Cox | very, very barely. |
| 01:23:34.17 | Steven Woodside | and the No. Thank you. |
| 01:23:36.36 | Joan Cox | But Sybil, can you hear us? |
| 01:23:37.80 | Steven Woodside | Can you hear the folks from the diocese? you know No, she can't hear anything in the chamber. Are you, do you think, was she joining us on Zoom, Walford? |
| 01:23:47.67 | Walfred Solorzano | Yeah. Can you hear me, council member coming? |
| 01:23:50.22 | Steven Woodside | I think that's way better. |
| 01:23:52.38 | Walfred Solorzano | Yeah. I think it was a height thing. I think for anybody that's in attendance, please adjust the height so that you're not too far from the microphone. This was what was happening. Yeah, that's OK. |
| 01:24:06.25 | Joan Cox | And Sybil, do you hear us? |
| 01:24:07.97 | Steven Woodside | you I don't know that they can hear it. |
| 01:24:12.79 | Joan Cox | But the the Dias microphones are working. I'm not hearing Sybil respond that she can hear us now. |
| 01:24:18.46 | Sybil Boutlier | All right. Thank you. |
| 01:24:18.70 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 01:24:20.25 | Sybil Boutlier | Yes, I can hear you now, but I couldn't hear you more. Thank you. |
| 01:24:20.98 | Steven Woodside | I can. that I couldn't before. Thank you. Our tech difficulties, it's always a challenge to run a hybrid meeting, so we appreciate everyone's patience and consideration. Do we have any further public comment on minutes? |
| 01:24:33.33 | Walfred Solorzano | on Sorry, we do not. |
| 01:24:35.41 | Steven Woodside | Okay, thank you very much. No, I'm not. Okay. I can bring it back to the diaspora comment, Council Member Hoffman. By all means, please, I will now close public comment. Thank you. |
| 01:24:46.02 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. So I'm looking at the part. First, apologies for not bringing this up and checking this earlier. But at the last meeting, at the November 21st meeting, with regard to item 3A, and that was the report on the Center for the Arts, I had requested that three things be added to the minutes with regard to additional information with regard to that item, Walford, and I did email you those three things. And so I would request that we, I guess, move this to the next meeting and that those things be added to the minutes. |
| 01:25:19.87 | Walfred Solorzano | I did have that email. I can add them on there. And we can do it as amended if that's okay. |
| 01:25:25.44 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah, sure. That's fine. That's fine. If you could just send me an edited version, that'd be great. Absolutely. I'll do that. |
| 01:25:31.89 | Walfred Solorzano | Absolutely, I'll do that. |
| 01:25:32.83 | Steven Woodside | For the purposes of the motion for the minutes, is there a name subject line to the email at least so that it's appropriately reflected? |
| 01:25:39.90 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah, it's item, it'll be item 3A on the agenda should have been amended to include an email from me sent on November 21st. And the subject was SCA contract milestones item 3A City Council meeting November 21, 2023. |
| 01:25:58.35 | Joan Cox | And I do recall that you enunciated those clearly during your comments. |
| 01:26:02.60 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah, so those three things were the revenue from special events. That was number one, and there's some information. The number two was the commencement date, and that's 8-19-2023. And the number three was the date of rent escalation, which is March 1, 2024. And so, Wofford, yeah, if you could just add that information into the minutes, that would be great. Got it. |
| 01:26:28.77 | Joan Cox | Before I move approval of the minutes, may I also |
| 01:26:28.79 | Ian Sobieski | you |
| 01:26:32.23 | Joan Cox | just comment that we used to get verbatim minutes. We used to pay highly. to a transcriber to transcribe the minutes verbatim. And the city made, over a decade now. ago a cost-cutting decision to no longer path. verbatim minutes and instead to have summary minutes. And so the minutes reflect actions and votes, but are not verbatim minutes of the dialogue that occurred during a meeting. |
| 01:27:04.70 | Ian Sobieski | Go ahead, Councillor McLaughlin. I can't remember if that happened when I was on the council. I came on the council in 2014, but. I remember that. I remember seeing the minutes. And I would say, I would suggest that, Perhaps... As a future agenda item. |
| 01:27:23.18 | Steven Woodside | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:27:23.55 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:27:23.75 | Ian Sobieski | Because I'm guessing that there's AI now. I was just going to say there's a number |
| 01:27:26.64 | Steven Woodside | I was just going to say there's a number of services that would be much more appropriate for our budget that we could consider. So let's discuss that appropriately, that agenda item for future agenda items. I don't want to move outside the realm of this. Okay, so did you want to make the motion, Councilmember Kramer? |
| 01:27:38.74 | Joan Cox | this. With that, I will move approval of the minutes as amended. |
| 01:27:46.38 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Do we have a second? And to be clear, the amendment is the additions of item 3A as suggested by Councilmember Hoffman. Okay, and we'll now take a roll call vote. |
| 01:27:56.07 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Cox? Yes. Councilmember Hoffman? you |
| 01:27:58.84 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 01:27:58.90 | Walfred Solorzano | Yes. Councilman Cummings. Thank you. |
| 01:28:00.49 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 01:28:00.69 | Walfred Solorzano | Vice Mayor Sobieski? Yes. And Mayor Blasting. |
| 01:28:04.13 | Steven Woodside | Yes, motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much. So the next order of business on our agenda this evening is our consent calendar. Items on the consent calendar are considered routine and non-controversial, require no discussion, are expected to have unanimous council support and may be enacted by the council in one motion in the form listed below. There will be no separate discussion of consent calendar items. However, before the council votes on a motion to adopt the consent calendar, Council members may request that specific items be removed for separate action. Items removed from the consent calendar will be discussed later on the agenda when public comment will be heard on any item that was removed. This evening on the consent calendar, we have item 3A, authorize the city manager to sign a program participation agreement with willden energy solutions for heat pump water heater initiatives for city buildings and authorize the city manager to sign a public works contract with innovative mechanical and energy services for the heat pump water heater upgrade project. 3b approve the lease of premises by and between the city of Sausalito and existing MLK tenant Carlos Bedell excellence for yachts. 3C, receive and file a report regarding curbside no parking changes in compliance with Assembly Bill 413-3. and other safety improvements on city streets. adopt a resolution approving an encroachment agreement the relocation of an existing entry driveway Cut from Ensign Street to Humboldt Avenue. and the relocation of three public parking stalls along Humboldt Avenue abutting the property at 1000 Bridgeway. 3E, adopt a resolution authorizing the city manager to execute a six-month marketing agreement with Creative Digital Agency, Inc., in an amount not to exceed $37,500. Item 3F. Authorize city manager to execute withdrawal agreement with Bay City's Joint Power Insurance Authority. So before I go forward with public comment, are there any items that council members would like to comment on or remove from the consent calendar? Yes, Councilmember Cox. |
| 01:30:06.01 | Joan Cox | I just want to note for the record, I will not be voting on item 3B because my residence is in close proximity to the MLK offices. |
| 01:30:18.26 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much for noting that. Are there items on the consent calendar that council members would like to comment on or remove at this time? Okay, seeing none, I will now open up the consent calendar for public comment. |
| 01:30:29.41 | Walfred Solorzano | Okay, Matthew Hartsell. Thank you. |
| 01:30:34.51 | Steven Woodside | . Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:30:36.97 | Walfred Solorzano | Okay. All right, yeah, you have to type down here. Sorry. |
| 01:30:38.91 | Steven Woodside | I see that Alice Merrill has her hand raised. Okay. |
| 01:30:41.97 | Walfred Solorzano | Fuck me. you Yeah, well, I'm going through the list that we have. Patrick Sider. |
| 01:30:45.14 | Steven Woodside | I'm not sure. |
| 01:30:48.34 | Walfred Solorzano | Yeah, this is 5B. Oh, sorry, 5B. Sorry, I'm looking at 3. I'm sorry. I was looking at it wrong. All right, Alice Merrill. Alice Merrill. Sorry. |
| 01:30:50.27 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:30:50.28 | Ian Sobieski | This is a- |
| 01:30:50.57 | Steven Woodside | . |
| 01:30:52.68 | Ian Sobieski | I'm sorry. |
| 01:30:53.34 | Warren Wells | Thank you. |
| 01:30:54.49 | Ian Sobieski | All right, Alice Merrill. |
| 01:30:55.47 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. THANK YOU. |
| 01:30:55.75 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:30:59.41 | Alice Merrill | Thank you so much. I've never done this before. Okay. I'm curious about this receive and file a report regarding the curbside, no parking. So I, I happened to read this. I read the whole thing. And, um, This is one of those things that feels like it's just being dropped. This, we don't know about it. And there's going to be all kinds of things that were places you can't park. Isn't there a way to inform them? the residents before you at some point you're receiving it, I mean, it's a law, I guess. You have to, but isn't there a way that you can let people know that there's going to be some changes going on? Thank you. because I think that's respectful. Thank you very much. |
| 01:31:47.66 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much, Alice. Appreciate it. Do we have any further public comment on the consent calendar at this time? |
| 01:31:54.43 | Walfred Solorzano | See none. |
| 01:31:56.11 | Steven Woodside | Okay, I will now close public comment and ask for, |
| 01:32:00.05 | Joan Cox | May I ask a question? In follow-up to Alice's comment, is there any plan by staff to roll out or notify |
| 01:32:00.53 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 01:32:00.65 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:32:08.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:32:08.08 | Joan Cox | Um, |
| 01:32:08.87 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:32:08.89 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 01:32:08.97 | Unknown | Um, residents and businesses in the area of this newly required regulation of its imposition and rollout. |
| 01:32:22.22 | Kevin McGowan | Good evening, Mayor, City Council members. I'm Kevin McGon, Public Works Director. And yes, we have about a year. to move forward with some of these implementation measures. At this point, we don't have specifics yet, but we wanted to alert the public and the council that this is coming. And so this is kind of the first step. Second and third steps, we'll be reaching out to fronting property owners and others along the way. |
| 01:32:45.96 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 01:32:45.98 | Steven Woodside | Excellent. Thank you very much, Director McGowan. Thank you. I also just got a note from Council Member Kellman that it's difficult to hear the dais for those tuning in via Zoom. So if we could just check the volume levels one more time, please. That would be great. Thank you for alerting me to that. Okay, so I believe we have to make two motions because we have to remove the item from which Councilmember Cox needs to abstain. So I think the first would be, and I'm happy to move for approval of items of consent calendar items 3A, 3C, 3D, 3E, and 3F. Second, hey, can we have a roll call vote please? |
| 01:33:24.08 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Cox? Yes. Councilmember Hoffman? Yes. Councilmember Kelman? Yes. |
| 01:33:24.99 | Steven Woodside | Yes. Yes. Yes. |
| 01:33:30.58 | Walfred Solorzano | Okay. Sorry. |
| 01:33:31.98 | Steven Woodside | We can't hear you, Councilmember Kelman. Yes. Okay, thank you. Could we adjust her volume as well? |
| 01:33:34.39 | Walfred Solorzano | Okay. THE END OF THE END OF THE Vice Mayor Sobieski? Yes. And Mayor Blasen. |
| 01:33:40.18 | Steven Woodside | Yes, okay motion carries unanimously, thank you, and we will now vote on item 3B on the consent calendar. Do I have a motion to approve item 3B? |
| 01:33:50.48 | Melissa Blaustein | So moved. |
| 01:33:52.23 | Steven Woodside | And a second. A second. Thank you. Can we have a roll call vote, please? |
| 01:33:57.38 | Walfred Solorzano | Council Member Cox |
| 01:33:59.06 | Steven Woodside | abstain. |
| 01:33:59.69 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. Council Member Hoffman? Yes. Council Member Cohen? |
| 01:34:01.75 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 01:34:03.69 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 01:34:03.72 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 01:34:04.11 | Walfred Solorzano | Vice Mayor Sobieski? Yes. Mayor Blostein? |
| 01:34:07.70 | Steven Woodside | Yes, motion carries forward zero with an abstention. Thank you. Okay, and now we'll move on to item four on our agenda, which is public hearing items for which there are none this evening. So we will continue on to business items. And the first item on the agenda is 5A. Adopt a resolution approving the second amendment to the city manager agreement with Chris Zapata amending existing salary benefits and authority effective January 1 2024 and we will be hearing from our human resources consultant Deborah much more. |
| 01:34:38.52 | Deborah Muchmore | Yeah. |
| 01:34:42.10 | Deborah Muchmore | Good evening, mayor. Council members. I'm Deborah Muchmore. I'm the human resources advisor for the city. Tonight I'm here to present an amendment to the agreement between the city council and the city manager. This amendment extends the term through June 2026, which is one additional year. Before we go into the rest of the terms, I did want to present that Chris has been with the council for the last two and a half years and has provided exemplary service. what I have he has had some accomplishments that you'll see in a huge list of them in the item that's before you tonight and has helped to stabilize the workforce and bring transparency to much of the information that the public receives working very closely with this council so i do admire that and going through the terms of the agreement it is a three-year term that does extend the current agreement through June 2026. The salary for the agreement is set at $244,555. That includes a 3% COLA and restoration of a voluntary 10% reduction that chris has taken since april of 2020 in addition there is a one-time lump sum bonus of thirty thousand eight hundred and ninety dollars and then additional incentive compensation of thirty thousand a year if you take the salary and you add the compensation, the incentive compensation brings that total to $274,555. The contract does add severance for if he's terminated without cause of six months, which is calculated at base salary. And there is a term in here that says allow for reasonable remote work. Chris Zapata, the city manager and the city council are both in agreement that it may be in the best interest of the city to remove that term. So if there's, we'll let the council talk about that afterwards, but that staff recommendation is that that term be removed. The city is going to provide use of a vehicle instead of a vehicle allowance. And also there's an incentive bonus pot of $50,000 per fiscal year that the council has provided for the city manager to use, not for himself, but for the retention of high quality employees. In addition to that, in this staff report, there is a section called fiscal impact that's in every staff report. And that fiscal impact in this staff report is, as it's written, can be very confusing. So I wanted to clarify the writing of that. Basically, for the staff report under the fiscal impact section, And it is supposed to present what the full cost to the city after all city paid expenses are paid. And so that is a different number that doesn't really tie. It has nothing to do with Chris's salary, except that it adds the city's cost on top of what is paid to the employee. So that number represents that. It's sometimes called fully burdened. It's sometimes called fully benefited, but it can be confusing. So I wanted to present that for the public and for the council. That concludes my presentation. |
| 01:38:38.73 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. And could you please, I know our city attorney is available and that he, because we, as you mentioned, have agreed that it makes sense for removal of the remote work term. And I understand that the city attorney has worked out. a clause amendment for the resolution. So if you could bring that up on the screen, city attorney, please. And I thank the city attorney for doing that. |
| 01:38:58.12 | Deborah Muchmore | Thank you. |
| 01:38:59.49 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. So... Thank you. |
| 01:39:02.21 | Sergio Rudin | Hi folks. |
| 01:39:03.32 | Deborah Muchmore | Make that a little bigger, please, for us. |
| 01:39:06.26 | Sergio Rudin | Yeah, so the easiest way to address this issue is just to simply strike the language in section three. that deals with remote work. Let's see. This is |
| 01:39:17.33 | Steven Woodside | Here we go. If you just, yeah. |
| 01:39:19.37 | Sergio Rudin | Easier to read. |
| 01:39:25.82 | Sergio Rudin | So that would be removal of the language dealing with remote work. |
| 01:39:36.48 | Sergio Rudin | Are there any questions? |
| 01:39:41.75 | Deborah Muchmore | That's pretty clear to me, city attorney. So thank you very much. |
| 01:39:46.44 | Steven Woodside | All right. |
| 01:39:47.45 | Joan Cox | Thank you, city attorney. Well, my question, Sergio, is I am assuming we would also remove the one, two, three, four, six bullet in the draft resolution, which says allow for reasonable remote work. |
| 01:40:01.86 | Sergio Rudin | Correct. Yeah, the council would can certainly remove that bullet in its oral motion to pass the resolution. |
| 01:40:11.60 | Joan Cox | Thank you. And I had a couple of questions for Deborah. |
| 01:40:13.37 | Steven Woodside | Absolutely. Please. We'll go back to Deborah. I just wanted to make sure that that was clear as part of her presentation. So go ahead, Councilmember Cox. Why don't you get us started? Thank you. |
| 01:40:19.34 | Joan Cox | Deborah, thank you for your presentation and for your work on this. The public may not realize, but we've been working on this for over six months. So thank you very much for all of the... |
| 01:40:29.64 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:40:31.83 | Joan Cox | reports and effort and data that you've provided to allow us to negotiate this. You mentioned incentive compensation. Sorry, you mentioned a one time lump sum bonus of $30,890. What Why are we paying a one-time lump sum bonus of $30,890? |
| 01:40:55.32 | Deborah Muchmore | That is in that's a signing bonus and incentive bonus for the agreement. |
| 01:41:01.85 | Joan Cox | Are we not paying that because this, this, We cannot make this agreement retroactive. |
| 01:41:11.71 | Deborah Muchmore | That is a fact under the law that you cannot make an executive's agreement retroactive. And it is a fact that we have been working on negotiating this agreement for well over six months. |
| 01:41:23.25 | Joan Cox | And so although this agreement becomes effective January 1, 2024, we are... restoring the 10% voluntary salary reduction by making this lump sum payment of $30,890, as we did for all other Sausalito employees, correct? |
| 01:41:46.50 | Deborah Muchmore | The amount of money would restore that. Yes. |
| 01:41:51.41 | Joan Cox | Um, |
| 01:42:02.43 | Joan Cox | Oh gosh, I had another question, but I've forgotten it. |
| 01:42:04.58 | Steven Woodside | I can circle back to you. That's not a problem, Councilman McCox. Do we have other questions from the diocese? |
| 01:42:05.06 | Elizabeth Carter | Do you like that? |
| 01:42:05.49 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 01:42:05.59 | Elizabeth Carter | THANK YOU. |
| 01:42:05.89 | Joan Cox | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:42:06.01 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:42:09.72 | Steven Woodside | Yes, Councilmember Huffman, I have a few to... |
| 01:42:12.10 | Ian Sobieski | So Deborah, let's, you know, as we're struggling through this, or at least I'm struggling through this and receiving new information tonight. I wanted to also address, I'm looking at the staff report right now, right? I'm looking at fiscal impact. |
| 01:42:25.20 | Warren Wells | Thank you. |
| 01:42:25.25 | Deborah Muchmore | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:42:27.27 | Ian Sobieski | which I think is either page 12 or 13. The staff report's not, there's no page numbers on it, but I think it's. It's the next to the last page. Second to the last page. So under fiscal impact, |
| 01:42:32.56 | Deborah Muchmore | The next to the last page. |
| 01:42:38.23 | Ian Sobieski | That page says 296. 034. And it says approval of this resolution will result in a city manager fully benefit salary of 296,034. Is that a correct statement or is that a not a correct statement? |
| 01:43:00.36 | Deborah Muchmore | It is a correct statement because it reflects the full cost of the salary. That includes the city paid benefits and taxes, which are commonly called either the fully burdened rate or the fully benefited rate or the total cost to the city. |
| 01:43:21.09 | Ian Sobieski | So we also have this chart that you prepared a chart for us today, correct? Of comparable salaries in other cities, correct? |
| 01:43:31.57 | Deborah Muchmore | Yes. |
| 01:43:32.29 | Ian Sobieski | And that chart is different from the chart that we were provided during our deliberations throughout this time period. Correct? |
| 01:43:43.99 | Deborah Muchmore | I worked on a chart today that does have all of the incentives, including things like cell phone allowance and things like that, that all the different cities offer their city managers, and it does reference ours as well. |
| 01:44:00.29 | Ian Sobieski | But you agree with me that we were provided a chart during this process that we were trying to figure out what would be an acceptable salary for Chris. And that chart is different from the chart that you provided today. |
| 01:44:11.80 | Steven Woodside | As a follow-up, might I ask, isn't it common to also continue to do research as it evolves to find more information per questions on the staff report and provide additional information in response to that? I'm sorry, but it was my... |
| 01:44:23.96 | Ian Sobieski | It was my time to question. So I don't I wasn't finished. So normally, hold on. Normally you don't interrupt a council member when it's their turn to question. So I would ask that I be afforded that courtesy from the dais. So is there some issue? Yes, I was a follow on to your question, which you often. I was not finished. OK. It was pretty clear that I wasn't finished. |
| 01:44:39.19 | Steven Woodside | some issues. |
| 01:44:42.22 | Joan Cox | I was not |
| 01:44:45.04 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:44:45.06 | Joan Cox | Well, we often follow on to one another's question. |
| 01:44:47.42 | Ian Sobieski | We often do, but that's when that person's finished questioning. Is there some, do we need to talk about? Do we need to have our city attorney weigh in about how we proceed here on the dais? |
| 01:44:58.47 | Steven Woodside | No, I apologize that it was a follow-on question. I didn't know that you were continuing your line of questioning. |
| 01:45:02.68 | Ian Sobieski | All the time. |
| 01:45:02.94 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:45:02.99 | Ian Sobieski | It'll be clear when I'm finished, I think. So, Back to the question, which was, we were provided with a compensation list during this process, correct? |
| 01:45:11.16 | Deborah Muchmore | You've been provided with many different compensation lists over the course of time. Since the time has progressed so long, salaries have been awarded. New city managers have been hired. Various contracts have changed. And so as those change, we age the data is what we call it. And we then present new charts. So as new information has come up, we've presented more information from staff to the council. You're absolutely correct. |
| 01:45:39.14 | Ian Sobieski | Okay, so let's unpack that a little bit. I only recall receiving this one chart. And we talked about this yesterday. And you referenced that chart during our conversation and said, do you have the chart that Chris provided? I said, yeah, I do. We couldn't find it during our conversation, but then I found it and you said, great. Right. I don't. Are you telling us here today as you're standing here that you provide us updated information to us throughout the process with Chris? |
| 01:46:05.35 | Deborah Muchmore | So before June, starting in March, we did have different charts that came as we negotiated through the process. |
| 01:46:05.79 | Ian Sobieski | Before June. Yeah. |
| 01:46:15.78 | Ian Sobieski | The only chart I recall getting is this one. Are you telling me that we have provided additional charts? |
| 01:46:18.60 | Deborah Muchmore | I hear that. Yes, ma'am. |
| 01:46:20.42 | Ian Sobieski | No. Okay, well, we talked yesterday, and I wasn't provided with any of those charts either. And then today you came and created a new chart. which you provided with us to us and which I don't know if it's attached to the, I don't know if it's attached to the agenda or not, but you just now provided this to the city council, correct? |
| 01:46:41.61 | Deborah Muchmore | I don't. I haven't presented one in open session to city council. |
| 01:46:49.63 | Joan Cox | Yeah. Can I ask that we not reveal the contents of closed session communications? |
| 01:46:50.34 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:46:50.35 | Unknown | to ask them. |
| 01:46:50.78 | Ian Sobieski | . |
| 01:46:54.51 | Ian Sobieski | Sure. Let me ask you this a different way. Are we not going to attach this chart that we just received to the agenda? Is there some reason why we wouldn't do that? City Attorney? |
| 01:47:08.75 | Deborah Muchmore | There's no, go ahead. Yeah. |
| 01:47:10.82 | Sergio Rudin | There's no legal requirement that we disclose the basis of our negotiations to the public. And since that information was provided, prepared for discussion and closed session, I would be cautious about recommending that we do so. That being said, it is based on information that is all available in the public record, including as the salaries and compensation structures of all city managers in the county and in other comparable cities can be requested under a Public Records Act process. |
| 01:47:41.30 | Deborah Muchmore | And I didn't want to, I wanted to defer to the city attorney. I don't have a concern with providing the chart that's in front of me that I prepared today to the public. |
| 01:47:41.32 | Sergio Rudin | Thank you. |
| 01:47:53.80 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:47:53.84 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:47:54.16 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:47:54.26 | Ian Sobieski | Well, Mark, are they? |
| 01:47:54.75 | Deborah Muchmore | I prepared with help from staff. How would we do that? |
| 01:47:57.62 | Ian Sobieski | How would we do that? But you'll agree we were just, I mean, this is new information that we received today. Is there any... reason why that's confidential, that we receive new information? Not all of the information. |
| 01:48:06.11 | Joan Cox | Again, not all of the information we received is new, Jill. Thank you. |
| 01:48:09.24 | Ian Sobieski | A lot of it is we've previously provided. Everything in this chart is new. |
| 01:48:11.45 | Joan Cox | Friday. |
| 01:48:13.63 | Ian Sobieski | That's not true. And the prior information that you're |
| 01:48:14.21 | Joan Cox | That's not true. |
| 01:48:16.91 | Sergio Rudin | If we can stop discussing the contents of closed session materials in open session, I think that would be appropriate. Although certainly you can ask our esteemed colleague, Debra, here information about salaries that are known and in the public record with respect to other city managers. You know, that I think is a perfectly fine and valid line of questioning here. |
| 01:48:42.81 | Deborah Muchmore | And can I just... |
| 01:48:43.48 | Melissa Blaustein | Could I, do you mind if I just interrupted with a friendly question? would you go over what the proposed salary for our city manager is relative to the salaries of other marine county city managers. |
| 01:48:57.68 | Deborah Muchmore | I will, and if the city attorney is fine, I do have copies of the chart that I did create just in case. |
| 01:49:06.18 | Steven Woodside | It might be helpful. |
| 01:49:07.56 | Deborah Muchmore | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:49:07.89 | Steven Woodside | And Councilman Hoffman, are you complete with completed your line of questioning or do you have additional questions? |
| 01:49:11.87 | Ian Sobieski | I have additional questions. |
| 01:49:12.73 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:49:13.74 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:49:13.76 | Steven Woodside | Okay. Thank you. |
| 01:49:14.45 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:49:14.50 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:49:14.60 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. So I also have a question because one of the numbers in this chart is different than what's in the staff report. And the number that you just stated, |
| 01:49:23.04 | Steven Woodside | of Thank you. |
| 01:49:24.00 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:49:24.03 | Steven Woodside | So we can't refer to the items specifically from within closed session, but we can ask questions about it. So I want to be mindful of the rules of bringing forth content from closed session into open session. |
| 01:49:31.04 | Warren Wells | Yeah. |
| 01:49:33.97 | Steven Woodside | We are absolutely able to ask questions about |
| 01:49:34.90 | Ian Sobieski | able to do that. |
| 01:49:37.35 | Steven Woodside | salary ranges. |
| 01:49:38.11 | Ian Sobieski | to the next one. So, okay, as a council member who's trying to figure out how our decision-making process is, we have information that's given to us. So, |
| 01:49:52.01 | Ian Sobieski | Go ahead. This is why, okay, so let me ask, So in the staff report, okay, let me, I'll move on for just a second and I guess we can turn that on. |
| 01:50:00.65 | Joan Cox | Council member Hoffman, what if we simply publish, I mean, Deborah much more has said she's happy to publish the report, which just contains publicly available information. So would you like to have her? |
| 01:50:14.49 | Ian Sobieski | I think that's what I asked for. I think that's what I was asking for. And I was told that we weren't going to do that. So. Is there a problem with that? I mean, I thought the city attorney told us not to do that. |
| 01:50:25.43 | Sergio Rudin | Yeah, I mean, if the council wants to vote to disclose the contents of, you know, closed session information, I think the council can and can do that. But absent that, I think the best way to handle this is if council members have questions about comparable salaries, you know, that is all information that you can ask Deborah about here in open session and Deborah can answer based on on her knowledge. |
| 01:50:51.38 | Ian Sobieski | Well, one of the questions I had was one of the numbers was wrong. It's still one. |
| 01:50:55.48 | Deborah Muchmore | One of the numbers is different than you. are expecting. |
| 01:51:00.17 | Ian Sobieski | Well, it's just different from in this supposedly updated staff report, right, about what Chris is thinking. I'm sorry, pardon me, the city manager's annual total compensation is different from what's in the staff report. So this one chart, this chart says $297,000. $691. The staff report, I mean, it's not, I guess, significant, but it's 296. $1,034. At what point do we understand what the actual facts are that we're voting on if we have this continually moving target? And I, as a council member, can't figure out what's going on. The other thing is I have, you just, you just stated a number of compensation after the first year, I believe. of $274,555. |
| 01:52:04.48 | Ian Sobieski | And maybe, okay, maybe I'm- |
| 01:52:06.09 | Joan Cox | That's the salad. plus the 30,000. Right. |
| 01:52:07.79 | Ian Sobieski | I got it, but there's a fiscal impact and it says the approved budget is $271,300, but that may be- what was budgeted. Where in the staff report does it say the number of 274,555? |
| 01:52:23.28 | Deborah Muchmore | It's the addition of the $244,555 and the $30,000 in bonus. And it's in the resolution. In incentive compensation. |
| 01:52:32.85 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:52:32.97 | Sharna Brockett | Right. |
| 01:52:33.14 | Ian Sobieski | In incentive compensation. Okay. This number of 274,555 is not that summary number is not in the staff report? |
| 01:52:45.05 | Deborah Muchmore | Correct. |
| 01:52:45.49 | Ian Sobieski | It's in the resolution. Yeah. |
| 01:52:45.64 | Deborah Muchmore | It's in the resolution. Yeah. |
| 01:52:47.19 | Ian Sobieski | Okay. So there's another issue on the staff report that I think also I've been asked about today, and that is, there's a line in the staff report that says that Chris's contract was up for negotiation. or up for, But that we talked about this yesterday. That's not an accurate statement that his contract is not His current contract, regardless of what we do tonight, runs through 2025. |
| 01:53:14.43 | Deborah Muchmore | Is current contract automatically renewed on June 30th because there was no action taken by council before the end of December to do otherwise than to allow it to renew? Otherwise, the original expiration date was June 30th. Yes. |
| 01:53:31.90 | Ian Sobieski | Okay, okay. Hold on just a second. |
| 01:53:35.76 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:53:42.34 | Steven Woodside | We can circle back with you, Councilmember Hoffman. Okay, so I just wanted to, for a point of transparency, so members of the public who perhaps aren't familiar with closed session or what we can and can't disclose or when we receive information and make a decision based on the information. I was wondering if the city attorney could just give an update because the preparation and materials for closed session is different than those for open session. It might just be helpful to have an understanding of the process and those disclosures, please, while we wait for Councilmember Hoffman. |
| 01:53:44.13 | Unknown | you Yeah, that's correct. |
| 01:54:08.99 | Sergio Rudin | Yeah, short answer is the Brown Act prohibits disclosure of information prepared for or received by the City Council in closed session absent a vote of the City Council to disclose that information. Um, That being said, again, as I mentioned, a lot of information with respect to comparable city manager salaries are available in the public domain. And to the extent that council members have questions about how the city manager's salary year compares to other information that is already available in the public domain, I do not have concerns about Deborah much more answering those questions. |
| 01:54:43.29 | Steven Woodside | But the attorney also just for a point of clarification, for instance, if we're working on a legal case and information is provided to us the same day, you often brief us that same day and give us the information, not often, but should it come up in closed session as questions arise or as new information is given to us, right? |
| 01:54:59.26 | Sergio Rudin | That's correct. I mean, I obviously endeavor to give the council as much advance notice as I can, but A lot of times with legal cases, matters are ongoing and new developments may happen up until the time of closed session. The world waits for nobody. |
| 01:55:14.46 | Steven Woodside | And in this situation, perhaps. Ms. Muchmore, you were making an effort to provide information as requested by members of council in advance of closed session. Is that right? |
| 01:55:24.18 | Deborah Muchmore | That is correct. I do that as often as I can. |
| 01:55:27.54 | Steven Woodside | Right. And so often information in closed session arrives updated based on requests or questions from members of the council. Okay. I just wanted to clarify that for members of the public, because I know you've worked quite hard on this and put a lot of effort and time into it. And I wanted to be sure that that was demonstrated. So. |
| 01:55:41.49 | Joan Cox | Karen Hollweg, And mayor may I take the liberty of suggesting or making a motion, since this information that we have received is. Karen Hollweg, In the public domain and already available publicly through public records act request, I would like to. undertake the unusual action of moving to append this one-page chart to the staff report on this item. |
| 01:56:10.01 | Steven Woodside | I would I would happily second that motion. |
| 01:56:12.04 | Joan Cox | Thank you. And city attorney, is that an acceptable way of addressing this? Yes. Vote in favor? Yes. |
| 01:56:17.57 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:56:17.61 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 01:56:17.96 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:56:19.78 | Deborah Muchmore | Ms. Muchmore, you have your hand raised. I just wanted to know if it would be possible through that amendment for me to present a little bit on this as we hand it out. City Attorney. |
| 01:56:31.48 | Sergio Rudin | I think that's fine. Any information that Mr much more wants to present to the Council on the dice becomes public record under the brown act as well so. |
| 01:56:40.25 | Steven Woodside | So we have a motion and a second. So I'm going to ask for a roll call vote so that we might enter this. We need to take public comment on the motion before we |
| 01:56:46.60 | Joan Cox | Um, um, vote on it, city attorney. |
| 01:56:56.71 | Sergio Rudin | Yeah, I would recommend, yes, you do need to take public comment, but perhaps you can defer that motion to after the close of the staff presentation and the regular public comment period. |
| 01:57:08.06 | Joan Cox | Yes, but it's, but Ms. Muchmore can still present the information in this since it's a matter of public record. And I did want members of the public and this council to know that that is an action I would recommend we do. Okay. Great. |
| 01:57:22.85 | Deborah Muchmore | So would you like me to present now? Okay, great. So there is an item that will be voted on, but I'm just gonna present general information about salaries in Marin County for city managers. So the salary that is proposed for our current city manager, just the salary itself, that 244,555. That salary puts him smack in the middle of the market below Larkspur, Ross, Mill Valley, Novato, and San Rafael. And that's as of contracts that are existing in the public record as of today. So I was pulling them as of today. In addition to that, the agreement, if you then take the $30,000 incentive compensation, and all the other pieces of benefits that come to city managers, their car allowance, their deferred compensation, all things like that, except for health, that brings our city's salary to 281,801. And that's going to differ from this staff report because the staff report is also part of the original agreement. And the original agreement is what gives them that cell phone allowance and the auto allowance and those things that are not auto allowance but cell phone allowance and deferred compensation and so we didn't need to put those in the amendment so you're not it's not going to tie to those numbers so that salary 281 My glasses need to be bigger. 801 is below Larkspur, San Rafael, and Novato still. This one year, one time, this fiscal year, the city manager has a one-time bonus upon execution. And then, at the end of this fiscal year in June, there's half of an incentive bonus. that's unless the city council takes action because the city manager has not performed according to what's been expected, he would receive that $15,000. That's reflected in the middle chart. If this is voted, that's reflected against his salary would be a $297,891 or $691 salary. That would still fall below Novato and San Rafael. |
| 02:00:14.26 | Joan Cox | Be clear. That's not salary. That is compensation. |
| 02:00:18.68 | Deborah Muchmore | Thank you for the correction. Council member Hoffman. |
| 02:00:21.82 | Joan Cox | And 30,869 is a one-time bonus to make up for the 10% reduction that he took and that is being restored to all Sausalito employees effective July 1, 2023. |
| 02:00:37.26 | Deborah Muchmore | Councilmember Cox, you're absolutely correct. It's that one-time bonus does include enough funds to cover that restoration. |
| 02:00:47.98 | Steven Woodside | Councilmember Hobbin, do you remember your question? Thank you. |
| 02:00:50.95 | Ian Sobieski | Um... I did. So... Thank you. This. I think the problem that people are having is that the fiscal impacts clearly says in their approval of the stars of the loose and will result in under fiscal impact the first sentence result in a city manager fully benefit salary of 296,034 dollars. but Thank you. as you're standing here today, You're telling us that that's an incorrect statement. |
| 02:01:22.51 | Deborah Muchmore | No, I'm not saying it's an incorrect statement. And I appreciate the question because I did read public comments that were posted and I did notice there was some confusion. I think in the future, I would reword this section in all of the reports that I do across multiple municipalities. It's common to call this fully burdened, fully benefited. But it really, what it is, is the full cost that a city pays that includes the city paid taxes, city paid benefits, not benefits paid to the employee, but that the city pays on their behalf in addition to their compensation. |
| 02:02:04.37 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you for that. clarification. But my point is that it's incorrect because that's not his annual salary going forward. That's just an approach that appears to be a close approximation of what you set forth in your new chart, which is a different number, but that's only for the first year. |
| 02:02:25.87 | Deborah Muchmore | So it doesn't represent salary at all. |
| 02:02:30.92 | Ian Sobieski | Okay, so I don't think |
| 02:02:37.87 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:02:37.89 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:02:37.97 | Steven Woodside | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:02:38.04 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. So let me ask you about, so the chart, There's two tables. There's a table, you know, they're about the same size, but there's one on top and there's one on bottom. One is, it says Novato San Rafael Sausalito. And then if you go across, it says $297,690.55. Do you see that on your chart? |
| 02:03:05.04 | Deborah Muchmore | talking about the chart that the council hasn't voted on yet? |
| 02:03:09.20 | Ian Sobieski | Yes, but you're talking about it, right? Aren't we doing a presentation on it right now? |
| 02:03:13.14 | Deborah Muchmore | Thank you. |
| 02:03:13.15 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah. |
| 02:03:13.32 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:03:13.46 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:03:13.49 | Joan Cox | you |
| 02:03:13.56 | Ian Sobieski | So I'm asking you about the chart. |
| 02:03:13.63 | Joan Cox | So I'm asking. |
| 02:03:17.74 | Joan Cox | You're technically asking her about an amount of 297, 691 that you just explained what that is. |
| 02:03:21.09 | Ian Sobieski | I'm not. Yes. Right, but that's different than what's in the staff report. |
| 02:03:27.01 | Joan Cox | is different because it represents something totally different. |
| 02:03:28.04 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah. |
| 02:03:29.71 | Deborah Muchmore | their apples to oranges. |
| 02:03:31.36 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
| 02:03:31.45 | Deborah Muchmore | so that's they're so similar that maybe that is very similar it's very i understand completely how you're drawing the nexus |
| 02:03:33.51 | Ian Sobieski | They're very similar. It's very similar. |
| 02:03:39.55 | Deborah Muchmore | Thank you. |
| 02:03:39.56 | Ian Sobieski | Okay. |
| 02:03:39.87 | Deborah Muchmore | Thank you. |
| 02:03:40.05 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:03:40.07 | Deborah Muchmore | Thank you. So... |
| 02:03:41.39 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. Okay, so what's the second chart then? So if you go, we're talking about the first chart right now, 2019. |
| 02:03:49.00 | Deborah Muchmore | So 297, 691, that salary would represent the city manager's annual wages, plus after the 3% bonus and the 10% restoration, plus the one-time bonus of $30,890, plus the half of the $30,000 salary. incentive compensation that would become available So long as council doesn't take action because the city manager hasn't performed in June of 2023. |
| 02:04:35.77 | Ian Sobieski | Okay, so I'm going to circle back and ask you about the performance issue in a minute, but So then what's the distinction between that chart and the chart where it lists 281 281,855 cents. |
| 02:04:51.50 | Deborah Muchmore | That is representing the wages at $244,555 plus a full year $30,000 incentive compensation that would occur in year two. Thank you. |
| 02:05:09.54 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:05:09.59 | Deborah Muchmore | Yeah. |
| 02:05:09.62 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:05:09.68 | Deborah Muchmore | I don't know. |
| 02:05:10.13 | Unknown | three. |
| 02:05:11.01 | Ian Sobieski | Okay, so that was actually one of my original questions. So the top chart is the first year and the bottom chart is going forward. you |
| 02:05:21.62 | Deborah Muchmore | Correct. |
| 02:05:21.94 | Ian Sobieski | you |
| 02:05:22.40 | Deborah Muchmore | you |
| 02:05:22.42 | Ian Sobieski | Okay. |
| 02:05:27.31 | Ian Sobieski | Okay, did we already, go ahead, I just didn't know if you were done. I have some more questions, but I do have some more questions, but I'm happy to pass and follow up. |
| 02:05:35.60 | Deborah Muchmore | And I just wanted to add that if council votes yes and this goes out, we would, we, We would have probably labeled these cleaner if we were planning to put them on the agenda. That's all. |
| 02:05:52.66 | Deborah Muchmore | Thank you. |
| 02:05:53.38 | Steven Woodside | So I have a couple of questions. Thank you, Deborah. So fiscal impacts in the staff record, the number is 271, 3000. So 24,734 is needed. Do we have Chad Hess on? Is he here? Hi, Chad. Nice to see you. This is our finance director, Chad Hess. Could you just answer a few questions here? So I, it says that the fiscal impact is $24,734. How much revenue did we get from measure L? |
| 02:06:19.17 | Chad Hess | Measure L is expected to be 2.9 million. of sales tax revenue annually. |
| 02:06:24.50 | Steven Woodside | Annually and city managers of POTUS, you're headed measure L correct? Yes. And getting that on the ballot. Okay, how much money did we save from cutting our, our previous contract that we had with virtual with Charlie Francis. |
| 02:06:38.78 | Chad Hess | Uh, that contract, I believe was 1.3 million originally. And that was ended November of 21. |
| 02:06:43.48 | Steven Woodside | THE ORIGINAL. |
| 02:06:49.83 | Steven Woodside | Under the city manager. |
| 02:06:50.89 | Chad Hess | Under Cristobata, yes. |
| 02:06:52.38 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. It was cut in half and we had a cost saving of about over half a million dollars under the city manager. |
| 02:06:56.73 | Chad Hess | Yes, approximately. |
| 02:06:57.52 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:06:57.54 | Chad Hess | Thank you. |
| 02:06:57.73 | Steven Woodside | Okay, and how much money did we save by restructuring park and rec? |
| 02:07:01.69 | Chad Hess | I don't have that number available. |
| 02:07:03.90 | Steven Woodside | But from my recollection, it was about a quarter of a million dollars from restructuring park and rec. |
| 02:07:08.85 | Chad Hess | Thank you. |
| 02:07:08.88 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:07:08.90 | Chad Hess | that may be a little high, but I would assume it's probably... Close to 200,000. |
| 02:07:14.75 | Steven Woodside | But it's safe to say with Measure L, the restructuring of Park and Rec, and the virtual ventures Charles Francis contract, city manager has saved us upwards of probably in total about $5 million in revenue in his role. Yes. |
| 02:07:28.32 | Chad Hess | I, done long |
| 02:07:30.46 | Steven Woodside | Much more, but there's specific milestones that we can clearly demonstrate. And the fiscal impact here that we would need is 24,000, roughly. Yeah. |
| 02:07:30.48 | Chad Hess | Much more, but these are some Thank you. |
| 02:07:38.24 | Chad Hess | Yes, in the current budget for fiscal year 24, we've got the $271,300. dedicated for his fully burdened rate increasing it to the fully burden of $296, $34, the difference would be added during the mid-year budget, which would come up in the coming month. Yes. |
| 02:07:58.83 | Steven Woodside | Okay, so it's safe to say that Essentially what we're going to pay him has been earned back. Thank you. |
| 02:08:03.73 | Chad Hess | Yes, yes. And that we would increase our budget by 24,000 for this fiscal year to accommodate this. Yeah. |
| 02:08:04.37 | Steven Woodside | Cheers. Thank you. |
| 02:08:09.70 | Steven Woodside | But we wouldn't have that probably roughly 5 million if it wasn't for city managers. |
| 02:08:13.85 | Chad Hess | Correct. |
| 02:08:14.10 | Steven Woodside | Correct. I just wanted to clarify those fiscal impacts. Thanks. Thank you. |
| 02:08:18.25 | Deborah Muchmore | Thank you, Jen. |
| 02:08:19.62 | Joan Cox | Can I ask one? Yes, please. We have projections of the for year one. This is to Deborah much more. |
| 02:08:29.56 | Karen Wiener | Oh, yes. |
| 02:08:30.19 | Joan Cox | We have projections for year one and for years two and three. the projection for year one puts, um, City Manager Zapata in third place in Marin County, the projection for your two and three puts him in fourth place behind Larkspur San Rafael and Nevada. Is that right? That is my, yes, that is correct. And the reason year one is higher is that we are making a one-time payment to restore the 10% salary cut that Mr. Zapata took that we restored for all other city employees effective July 1, 2023. |
| 02:08:58.62 | Chantel Shannon | Right. |
| 02:09:07.39 | Deborah Muchmore | the one who taught me. |
| 02:09:08.03 | Steven Woodside | payment is inflating that amount. |
| 02:09:09.82 | Joan Cox | All right. Thank you. |
| 02:09:11.71 | Steven Woodside | And I had one more question on fiscal impact, just because you're here, Ms. Muchmore, and then we'll go to Council Member Kelman. I see your hand is raised, so just one second. Just so we get an idea, Ms. Muchmore, you just negotiated a contract in Sebastopol, right? Yes, I did. And what was the salary for that? And what would you say is the entry-level salary for a position of this type? |
| 02:09:32.98 | Deborah Muchmore | The salary for that one was... 240. |
| 02:09:39.78 | Steven Woodside | Okay. And how many decades of experience does a city manager Zappada have? Thank you. |
| 02:09:44.98 | Deborah Muchmore | Oh, I think you included his resume in the staff report, right? His resume is in the staff report. He has more decades than I do. |
| 02:09:52.99 | Steven Woodside | I think he has been a city manager since I was at Saucelino Nursery School, but I could be wrong. I believe it says 1992 in the staff report. So typically, if someone has three decades of experience, they would probably be beyond that average starting salary at $244, correct? Correct. |
| 02:10:07.35 | Deborah Muchmore | He is a well credentialed city manager. Absolutely. There is no question. Okay. Thanks. Councilmember Kelman. |
| 02:10:15.18 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you, Mayor. I think this has been well articulated. So just one big clarification then. Deborah, you keep referring to taxes, city paid taxes, taxes aren't covered. Can you just educate all of us what that really means? |
| 02:10:30.10 | Deborah Muchmore | Yeah. Medicare is an example where the employee pays a percentage and the city is also required to pay a percentage. So that's something that doesn't show up in an employee's salary. The amount that the city pays towards medical and health insurance does not show up in an employee's pay. So that doesn't get counted towards the compensation, things like that. |
| 02:11:03.97 | Jill Hoffman | But is that a tax or that's- No, it's benefits. |
| 02:11:05.81 | Deborah Muchmore | Oh, it's. It's in tax. |
| 02:11:09.03 | Jill Hoffman | So is that a term of art benefits and tax, or are we actually paying the taxes? |
| 02:11:14.50 | Deborah Muchmore | We're actually paying Medicare tax to the federal government. |
| 02:11:21.16 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, and so what other actual taxes are we paying just so we don't have any other questions about this. |
| 02:11:28.10 | Deborah Muchmore | Well, we're lucky if we weren't a public entity, we'd be paying FICA as well. And we do for our part-time employees, but we are not required to pay it for our city manager because he's part of a pension program. |
| 02:11:41.36 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thank you. |
| 02:11:42.46 | Deborah Muchmore | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:11:48.82 | Ian Sobieski | So I have some additional questions for Chad. |
| 02:11:57.04 | Ian Sobieski | So, Chad, you and I also talked yesterday about the summary fiscal impact of all of the salary, all of the, sorry, compensation increases this year, and particularly the added cost of city managers of POTA's compensation as well as some other bonuses for the city management class. and so you provided an updated summary for me and I don't know if that was provided to the rest of the council management class. And so you provided an updated summary for me, and I don't know if that was provided to the rest of the council or not, It has not. No. Did anybody else ask for it? No. No. |
| 02:12:27.70 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:12:27.72 | Chad Hess | It has not. No. |
| 02:12:30.97 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:12:31.19 | Chad Hess | No. |
| 02:12:32.15 | Ian Sobieski | So, and it was, and Ms. Much more, that's not provided anywhere in the staff report for this. |
| 02:12:38.64 | Deborah Muchmore | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:12:39.07 | Chad Hess | No, no, that was just a request that you had. |
| 02:12:41.62 | Ian Sobieski | So I would, you would agree that the added additional cost, the total cost for over three years for the number that you provided me for just a city management the city management summary line went up about $200,000. |
| 02:13:02.36 | Chad Hess | Let me pull that up just so I have it in front of me. |
| 02:13:03.83 | Ian Sobieski | Sure. |
| 02:13:08.88 | Chad Hess | So you're talking about city manager, the city management, which includes all of our directors as well as city manager. Yes. Yep. So are you talking fiscal year one costs or? I was just jumping to the total cost. So the total cost for year one, the total increase for city management was $362,031. for your year one cost. |
| 02:13:34.98 | Ian Sobieski | Right, I was just going all the way across. That's fine if you wanna go year by year. So the total cost. |
| 02:13:36.77 | Chad Hess | That's what we're talking about. So the total cost over the three years is $1,276,537. |
| 02:13:44.28 | Ian Sobieski | And that's an update from the last time we received the summary page, which was in, I believe, October. |
| 02:13:49.38 | Chad Hess | Thank you. Yes. So included in this is the, the additional bonus potential. that wasn't included in the October summary that was provided, the $30,000 incentive, and then the bonus pool that is available to city manager for retention of, of, of quality employees was not included in the October. table that you're referring to. |
| 02:14:15.40 | Ian Sobieski | And so the total cost, if you go all the way over on that side, on that chart, the total cost for the city management class, and that includes other managers other than Mr. Zapata, but it is updated to reflect his salary increase. The increase is $1 million, or sorry, it's not an... The total now is $1,276,537. Over the three months. |
| 02:14:41.03 | Chad Hess | Thank you. |
| 02:14:41.13 | Ian Sobieski | Over the three years. and then the added summary of the total cost for all of these All of the classes. All classes. All, yep. Updated from? |
| 02:14:48.89 | Chad Hess | Updated. |
| 02:14:50.18 | Ian Sobieski | The total in October was $3 million. $438,754, and the new total is now $438,754. 3,678,754. |
| 02:15:03.54 | Chad Hess | That is great. |
| 02:15:03.96 | Ian Sobieski | contract. Okay, and I would, I would request that this also be attached to the record this new summary page because I don't believe anybody seen this, and, and it wasn't included in the staff report and I believe it is relevant and so as part of that motion to include the, the new, the new and updated. Charts that that is much more did today I would request or make a friendly amendment I suppose that this summary page is also included so the public can see this and it's readily available. |
| 02:15:34.68 | Chad Hess | It is in Walford's inbox right now. |
| 02:15:37.75 | Ian Sobieski | Okay, thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:15:40.53 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Councilmember Cox had a follow-on short of a moment. |
| 02:15:45.12 | Joan Cox | Thank you. And Chad, We did receive the information then available in October as a part of our agreement to increase the, to adopt those labor negotiations. That is correct. And we had received the incremental information prior to that when we increased the SEIU salaries. And so every time we vote on the outcome of a labor negotiation, you provide us an updated incremental cost of the impact Thank you. we vote on the outcome of a labor negotiation, you provide us an updated incremental cost of the impact of our negotiations, just as this staff report contains the fiscal impact of this salary negotiation, which is at the 296 fiscal impact number at the end of the staff report. |
| 02:16:38.19 | Chad Hess | Yes, that's his fully burdened rate or fully burdened cost. |
| 02:16:41.84 | Joan Cox | Yes. But I do appreciate Council Member Hoffman's desire for transparency, so I do accept the friendly amendment to the motion to include |
| 02:16:49.33 | Warren Wells | Thank you. |
| 02:16:49.35 | Chad Hess | Cheers. |
| 02:16:49.65 | Warren Wells | THE FAMILY. |
| 02:16:51.74 | Joan Cox | together with the comparison of salaries within the jurisdiction, the total incremental expense of all of the labor negotiations we've undertaken this year. |
| 02:17:05.93 | Chad Hess | Yes, I am 100% comfortable sharing that with the public. We could present it on the screen if you would like, Walter to have. |
| 02:17:13.12 | Joan Cox | I have it fully in mind. I went back and looked at the prior fiscal impact. So I am fully aware. But thank you so much. Thank you. |
| 02:17:21.29 | Ian Sobieski | So I have one more question for Chad. Um, since the mayor asked you about Measure L. But let me let me just read the language about measure L. It was... Estimated 2.8 million annually. Did we, how are we, I can't remember. How did we hit on that? |
| 02:17:40.93 | Chad Hess | So HDL is our service provider that helps us project those revenues and their summary or the latest summary was 2.9. |
| 02:17:45.58 | Ian Sobieski | And this is the first thing. |
| 02:17:48.75 | Chad Hess | for the fiscal year. That's what's in the fiscal year 24 budget. |
| 02:17:52.83 | Ian Sobieski | Sorry, what did you say? 2.89? 2.9. Oh, 2.9. Okay. Yep. |
| 02:17:53.88 | Chad Hess | 2.9. Thank you. |
| 02:17:56.38 | Ian Sobieski | And the language of Measure L was to support essential city services, including maintenance to our storm drains and roadways. Sausoleil storm drains are more than 80 years old and many are deteriorated and rusted through. And so Measure L was principally a capital improvement measure, correct? |
| 02:18:12.42 | Chad Hess | It was presented as a general tax, but we've made a promise that we would invest it in infrastructure. |
| 02:18:15.66 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:18:19.95 | Ian Sobieski | Okay. Thank you. |
| 02:18:21.16 | Chad Hess | You're welcome. |
| 02:18:25.20 | Steven Woodside | Do we have any further questions from the dais at this time before we open it to public comments? Okay, I just want to thank Deborah much more for her hard work and responsiveness and the amount of effort and time over the last six months has been put into this and other contracts. Many of you know that we've brought on Kathy Nikitas to run our HR department, so we may be seeing less of Deborah much more. And I truly appreciate the work that you've done for us and you've been a pleasure, and actually, Deborah took a 10% pay cut as a consultant when she didn't have to in solidarity with the city employees. So that should be. Acknowledged. |
| 02:18:59.54 | Deborah Muchmore | Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Councilmembers. It's been a pleasure working with you. Hopefully I'll get to see you once in a while again. Can I actually ask you a question? |
| 02:19:06.10 | Melissa Blaustein | I actually asked you a question. Sorry. |
| 02:19:07.79 | Deborah Muchmore | Yeah, no, you're fine. |
| 02:19:09.09 | Melissa Blaustein | The one question I want to ask, just to level set the numbers here to bring a sense of proportion to the discussion. In that table that we're going to release, you list the total compensated, the salaries of the top 10 or just 10 city managers in the local area. |
| 02:19:12.06 | Deborah Muchmore | Sure. |
| 02:19:24.80 | Melissa Blaustein | And just looking at this, If you are paid $260,000 total, you're number three. you're paid $240,000, you're number seven. So the difference between the top third person and the seventh person is a total of $20,000. Is that correct? |
| 02:19:43.34 | Deborah Muchmore | They're close. Yes. |
| 02:19:46.33 | Melissa Blaustein | $20,000. Thank you. |
| 02:19:47.73 | Deborah Muchmore | Thank you. |
| 02:19:47.75 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. Okay. Just $20,000. $20,000 is the difference between those three, those two positions. Thank you. |
| 02:19:56.03 | Steven Woodside | And what's the cost of a city manager search just for comparable with the 20,000 number? Some people know. |
| 02:20:00.51 | Deborah Muchmore | We just, it's a public record. Sebastopol just did a search for $35,000. Thank you. |
| 02:20:07.78 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:20:07.92 | Deborah Muchmore | Thank you. |
| 02:20:08.03 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thanks. All right. So I guess we'll open it up for public comment. Right. |
| 02:20:13.06 | Walfred Solorzano | Um, All right, so we have on Zoom, Carolyn Revelle. |
| 02:20:24.35 | Carolyn Revell | Hello. Hi, Carolyn. Welcome. Good evening, council members. I've been very impressed with the experience and professionalism of city manager Zapata. He's ably addressed several challenging issues, starting with the housing encampment problem, He addressed the financial situation confronting the city and communicated very clearly to us and the public the nature of the challenges. He developed an innovative staffing formula, the 36-hour week. He achieves the successful passage of Measure L He's explored a variety of alternative revenue sources And he directed preparation of an RFP to hire a consultant to explore a business improvement district And finally, among many other achievements, he's hired a competent new finance director and community development director and several new planners. I fully endorse an appropriate compensation package for city manager Zapata. I think the city of Sausalito is very lucky to have such a conscientious public servant. Thank you. |
| 02:21:26.03 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much, Carolyn. |
| 02:21:28.48 | Walfred Solorzano | Next speaker, Peter Van Meter. |
| 02:21:37.94 | Unknown | Peter. |
| 02:21:38.35 | Peter Van Meter | All right. Glad to be here and endorse City Manager Zapata. I've had occasion to know five or six city managers over the years. I'd like to say that he's doing an absolutely fantastic job. His qualifications are exceptional. His results for the city of Sausalito are also the same. The staff report made it clear all the great things that he's done, and you just heard Carolyn talk about some others. I particularly like the fact that he took that volunteer 10% pay cut right from the beginning because he realized the fiscal situation of Sausalito. I realized that it ultimately applied to all of their employees as well, but he certainly didn't have to do that, and yet he did. And now we're making up for that. And I like the fact that there's an incentive bonus in this package, because that gives him even more incentive to do even a greater job. So I fully endorse his market rate compensation. As we see, based on comparables within the county, it's going to be a fair compensation. Thank you. |
| 02:22:41.80 | Unknown | Thank you, Peter. |
| 02:22:42.37 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:22:44.23 | Walfred Solorzano | Next speaker is Sharna Brockett. |
| 02:22:47.86 | Steven Woodside | Welcome, Charna. |
| 02:22:48.57 | Sharna Brockett | Thank you. |
| 02:22:50.59 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:22:50.61 | Sharna Brockett | Sorry, thanks for being there. Thank you. Yes, I'm here to also express my support for approving our city manager Chris Zappata's contract I think we're really lucky to have someone with his level of experience at the helm of And from what I've heard here, he has voluntarily waived pay increases in the past And so I really do hope that we can accommodate his financial, contract and pay him a competitive salary. of course in a fiscally responsible way and with clear milestones attached to receiving bonuses. And I think retaining Mr. Zapata is also very much in the best interest in our city. We really can't afford to lose momentum right now. We need to continue to to build back our city staff and not waste our precious time and money going through another search to find a candidate out there who's probably not gonna be as qualified as him. So thank you. |
| 02:23:46.72 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. |
| 02:23:47.63 | Sharna Brockett | Thank you. |
| 02:23:49.96 | Walfred Solorzano | Next speaker, Reverend Paul Morey. |
| 02:23:56.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:23:56.05 | Steven Woodside | Hi, Paul. |
| 02:23:56.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:23:57.23 | Steven Woodside | Oh, where'd he go? |
| 02:23:59.05 | Reverend Paul Morey | Am I unmuted? |
| 02:24:00.35 | Steven Woodside | Hi, Pastor Paul. We can hear you. I'll tell you. |
| 02:24:02.12 | Reverend Paul Morey | Great, thank you. Thank you so much. I'm glad to be here. I'm the pastor of the Saucido Presbyterian Church and a resident for 12 years and I strongly endorse Chris Zabata. and his continued service as our city manager. I would just say I just agree with everything that the other speakers have said. Plus, I just, I met him very early on in his arrival, which was in the midst of the tent encampment, and he really struck me for his his integrity, his intellectual curiosity, his, sense of really looking for solutions that were going to work for everybody. I just think that we're lucky to have somebody of such expertise and Um, You know, that there are some things that are, you know, you can't really quantify actually by salary. Um, but I think he's worth every penny and, um, I hope that the council will, Keep the momentum. I think we've had great momentum going and this kind of stability would be great. So just a very, very strong endorsement for my family. to renew the the city manager's contract and to give them the increase. Thank you. |
| 02:25:26.53 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much, Paul. Do we have any further public comment on Zoom? I see another, yeah. |
| 02:25:30.57 | Walfred Solorzano | another Sybil Boutlier. |
| 02:25:33.45 | Steven Woodside | Welcome Sybil, hi. |
| 02:25:38.23 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 02:25:38.24 | Sybil Boutlier | See. |
| 02:25:38.65 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 02:25:40.50 | Sybil Boutlier | That's... um, I can't seem to get my camera open. Um, So I'll just go ahead. Here we go. Okay. And I just wanted to say that when we first heard about CRISP, We heard he was from Anaheim, there had been an Anaheim in Union City. And many of us said, well, you know, how is somebody from that part of the world with the focuses that those cities have really gonna fit in with our community? And we certainly had our doubts. But it became really clear that he understood our community and the culture that we have here and listen to what people have to say and have turned out to be really easy to work with. And that is safe to try different innovative solutions to some of the um some of the situations that we're dealing with here And he seems to really care about the people of our community. This is not just a drop-in job for him. It's something that he clearly has invested his heart in and as well as his mind. I think that we made a good choice. So I support our being able to come up with a good package for his retention. And thank you for choosing him. |
| 02:27:16.44 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:27:16.49 | Sybil Boutlier | Thank you, Sybil. |
| 02:27:22.09 | Steven Woodside | Do we have further public comment or any public comment in the chambers? |
| 02:27:25.82 | Walfred Solorzano | See, not... |
| 02:27:27.07 | Steven Woodside | Okay, I will, oh yes, is that Ms. McDougall? Yes, hello, welcome. Oh, absolutely. |
| 02:27:39.27 | Babette McDougall | So I don't want to repeat all those positive things that we just heard about our city manager, but I happen to think that he's also a good investment. And I just didn't want to miss this chance for someone in this room to stand up and say, here, here. |
| 02:27:55.59 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much, Bebitt. Alice wants to say here here as well. That's it. OK, great. Thank you very much. Thank you. All right, so no further public comment at this time. Is that correct, city clerk? |
| 02:28:09.31 | Walfred Solorzano | That's correct. |
| 02:28:10.05 | Steven Woodside | Okay, I will go ahead and close public comment and bring it back up to the dais for discussion. Did you want to get us started, Councilman? |
| 02:28:17.54 | Joan Cox | Well, may I call the question on my motions? |
| 02:28:21.24 | Steven Woodside | Yes. Oh, yes, absolutely. This is the motion to, absolutely. This is the motion to. |
| 02:28:21.91 | Joan Cox | Yes, absolutely. And that I accepted the friendly amendment. I'm not sure who the second is for the motion. |
| 02:28:30.76 | Steven Woodside | I believe I seconded your motion. Okay. |
| 02:28:31.95 | Joan Cox | Okay. Thank you. |
| 02:28:32.73 | Steven Woodside | to exceed. |
| 02:28:33.08 | Joan Cox | Will you accept that? |
| 02:28:33.93 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:28:33.96 | Joan Cox | this friendly amendment as well. |
| 02:28:34.76 | Steven Woodside | Yes, absolutely. So the motion as amended is to include not only the chart, which we had discussed in closed session and make public as an addendum, but as well, the comparative chart that was provided to Council Member Hoffman at her request to finance director has as an addendum as well. So |
| 02:28:50.57 | Joan Cox | And then for the chart, I would like to adopt the recommendation of Deborah much more to label the second table as year one and the third table as years two and three. |
| 02:29:00.03 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:29:00.59 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:29:00.62 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 02:29:01.20 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:29:01.64 | Joan Cox | you |
| 02:29:01.66 | Steven Woodside | So. The addendum would be to include the chart with a labeling of tables and to include the the information that was requested by Councilmember Hoffman to Director Hess. So with that, we will call a question and call a vote on this item. So, City Clerk. |
| 02:29:16.17 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Cox. Yes. Councilmember Hoffman. |
| 02:29:19.64 | Steven Woodside | Are we not? |
| 02:29:19.96 | Ian Sobieski | going to have discussion first. We are. Oh, sorry. Just on this. Pardon me for me. Yes. |
| 02:29:21.21 | Jill Hoffman | Oh, sorry, just on this. Thank you. |
| 02:29:24.77 | Walfred Solorzano | Council member, council member coming. |
| 02:29:27.56 | Ian Sobieski | Yes. |
| 02:29:27.90 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:29:28.79 | Walfred Solorzano | Vice Mayor Sobieski and Mayor Lallstein. Yes. All right. |
| 02:29:31.47 | Steven Woodside | Yes. Okay. And now we will bring it forward to the diaspora discussion. And I... Whoever wants to get started, I'm happy to have Councilmember Hoffman, did you want to? Well, I'll get us started and I will just say, That I I think it's no secret that I'm quite a fan of our city manager, not only because he has a impressive resume with decades of experience, but because he's demonstrated what that experience can mean to Sausalito. And it's not just in fiscal impact, which we heard from Chad. He saved us, you know. Upwards of five, probably $10 million if you really look at the numbers and what we've changed and saved and what our projections would be over the next three years under his leadership. So it's not about the fiscal impact, which is really important. And it's not about the back to basics approach that he's taken and getting our infrastructure improved and really putting that first and getting us in the black for the first time in several years. For me, it's really in a big way about how much the staff admires our city manager. Because what people forget often is that in a city council form of government, we're more like a board of directors. And the city manager is responsible for managing everybody in this building all the time. And before city manager Zapata was here, we had a lot of turnover and we had a lot of discontent. And I can. everybody in this building all the time. And before city manager Zapata was here, we had a lot of turnover and we had a lot of discontent and I can say with confidence because members of the staff have said it to me. I'm here because city manager Zapata's here. I'm here because city manager Zapata said he would stay. I was going to leave, but city manager Zapata is going to be here and I want to be here and I want to learn from him and I want to be under his leadership. And so for me, the most important job I have as mayor is hiring a good city manager because he's gonna be responsible for everybody in this building. And yes, we can demonstrate clearly that we have the fiscal responsible reasons for doing that and that this contract makes sense. But moreover, I'm really proud to see what he's built here and with our employees at City Hall. I'm very supportive of the contract. make a motion to just so we and it's up for discussion, but just to put on the table to adopt the resolution with the amendment of removing the six bullet with regards to remote work, which I'll note that Chris also in discussion city manager Zapata offered in response to public comment, having read the letters himself and being concerned about making it clear how much he cared about this community and serving this community so. That's where I come off on that. |
| 02:32:03.67 | Joan Cox | May I make one other proposed revision to the resolution? Sure. Which is the seventh bullet. It will say provide use of a vehicle. Yes. Sorry, we're not buying you a Corvette, Chris. |
| 02:32:12.82 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:32:12.83 | Karen Wiener | Thank you. |
| 02:32:12.93 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 02:32:19.16 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:32:19.18 | Joan Cox | All right. Yeah. I will second the motion and I will explain why, if that's okay. |
| 02:32:25.13 | Steven Woodside | . Bye. |
| 02:32:25.79 | Joan Cox | I don't know. |
| 02:32:25.83 | Steven Woodside | I know there's an opportunity |
| 02:32:26.97 | Joan Cox | for everyone to discuss and weigh in. |
| 02:32:28.71 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:32:28.73 | Joan Cox | I am in the unique position of not having been on the council that hired Chris. I lost my election by a vote or two. And so I did not interview him or vote to hire him, but I did meet with him about a month after he was hired. When I met with him, he had already read 10 prior years of budgets. He already had his head around the city's strategic plan. I am a municipal lawyer who represents cities, counties, school districts, special districts throughout California, and I've never seen someone get up to speed as quickly as I observed Chris get up to speed on behalf of the city of Sausalito. I have been impressed since being reelected to the council by Chris's leadership, his creativity, the manner in which he inspires employees. I had the privilege of working with Chris on Measure L and putting that on the ballot and gathering votes, and it passed by an impressive margin. thanks in large measure to a survey that he undertook that helped support Measure L. So he's a strategic thinker, and in my view, a forward-looking thinker, not he's someone who is proactive, not reactive. Projects that have long been delayed are starting to be done. I love Chris's motto of creeping excellence, and every project he touches, I see improvement. We have the first clean audit we received in years. We've increased rents for many of the tenants for whom Sausalito owns the property. We are now actually earning interest on the money we have in the bank. What a concept. And the leadership, you know, it is notable to me that Chris included in his requested compensation package $50,000 that he could use to provide bonuses to employees. So he wasn't just negotiating on his behalf. He's negotiating for the future of Sausalito. And so I regret that the fiscal impact section of the staff report created some consternation. But I am confident in the explanation that Chris's base salary is squarely in the middle of the market. The bonus that he'll receive in years two and three puts him in the upper third, but he's still fourth. in the market. And, you know, he's, this is probably his last gig as a city manager. He is that experienced. He is similar in age to me, I hate to admit. And I have a similar amount of experience as a lawyer. And I know what the value of that experience is for a municipality. And the cost on the other side of churn and of loss of institutional memory and the process to get up to speed for a new city attorney. So I feel fortunate that Chris agreed to continue on at the city of Sausalito, and I am pleased to vote in favor of his amended contract. Thank you. you |
| 02:35:56.73 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, Council Member Cox. Who wants to weigh in next? |
| 02:36:06.43 | Steven Woodside | Councilmember Kelman. I don't think she has her hand raised. I think you go ahead, Councilman Hoffman. |
| 02:36:14.23 | Golnihal Kamek | Thank you. |
| 02:36:14.28 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:36:14.30 | Golnihal Kamek | Thank you. |
| 02:36:14.35 | Steven Woodside | you |
| 02:36:17.43 | Ian Sobieski | I think my frustration with the process tonight was probably clear. that I don't think that it's acceptable when we're trying to figure out what our city manager contract is going to be that we have inaccurate staff reports that cause confusion, not only among the public, but also among people on the dais. And so, I would think that we would have a cleaned up staff report, that we would have cleaned up Karen Hollweg, The rest of the reports that we're looking at updated which i'm happy that we have an updated report, but given the inaccuracies that we've had throughout this process, I would prefer not to vote tonight, but that we are able to. look at the source materials and some of the other issues, or some of the other support for these things that have just been revealed tonight. I mean, we've been working on this. I don't know how long, for months. And yet tonight we're getting new information. I just talked to the our human resources director yesterday about compensation levels, and yet today we're getting new information about that was prepared today on compensation levels. From a process standpoint, I agree with the public that have written in and said, hey, you're springing this on us in the middle of a holiday season. We want to have a chance to digest this. We want to have a chance to look at... look at the materials and make sure that we have confidence in it. It's a different issue than do we have confidence in Chris as a city manager? It's a, do we have confidence in the numbers that we've represented? and the process that we've gone through. And if you have city council members who are sitting up here, who clearly received inaccurate information. There's inaccurate information in the staff report I don't think that's an unreasonable request from the public. I also want to point out that the summary page, we weren't provided a summary of the total cost of what all of these pay raises are going to cost the city. And the update that's going to be attached to the agenda that we just voted on shows that contrary to some of the conversation up here, it does look like that these pay raises are going to put us back into deficit spending. And so, you know, when you're looking at the health of our town and the health of our budget, I do appreciate very much some of the measures that were taken last year that Chris headed, but I've said this several times. I don't think this was a year to change course. I think we should have stabilized. We should have made sure that our budget next year is going to be in balance, and that would have been the time to make these types of very, very strong and historically high pay raises. So that's, you know, that's my position. Again, I'm a bit disappointed about how this is rolled out and how we proceeded through this process. And, you know, usually when you have people in the audience who are reacting and clapping or making comments, especially... when other people are talking or in those presentations, that the mayor weighs in and talks about decorum in the chambers. So I haven't seen you do that. I would request that if that happens, |
| 02:39:38.21 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:39:39.19 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:39:39.83 | Steven Woodside | Absolutely. And I apologize that I didn't make a comment about decorum, but if we could all be respectful in the audience, please, and be respectful of other speakers and limit our reactions and only speak when we are approaching the dais. Thank you. Of course. Okay, Councilmember Kelman or... |
| 02:40:03.20 | Steven Woodside | No, you have no comments, because we're coming. I do. I'm happy to let the vice mayor go. |
| 02:40:09.92 | Melissa Blaustein | you well. |
| 02:40:15.62 | Steven Woodside | You can go last if you want vice mayor. Okay, he's still putting... |
| 02:40:18.55 | Jill Hoffman | putting it in. Oh, OK, sure. Yeah, I didn't want to jump ahead. Yeah, so this is one of these meetings where this was actually a really excellent, rigorous conversation. I think the public and my colleagues could all experience a sense of frustration that we were trying to figure out exactly how to best convey some of this information. Some of the terminology was new to us. Some of the terminology was used in a way we hadn't heard before, but I think we received the information, entered into the public record, stated publicly about where we stand on this. I felt it was very helpful to hear it stated out loud that Chris's base salary is in the middle. That has been our goal throughout labor negotiations. Now, of course, fully loaded, he moves up the ranks. Why is that? He is the senior or perhaps second most senior city manager in all of Marin County. Why does that matter? I want to pick up what Council Member Cox said. We had a clean audit. I mean, I cannot undervalue that. When I first was serving my first year and I was on the finance committee, we did not have a clean audit. And we hadn't had a clean audit in years. And we spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on a CAFR, which was an audit document that cost the city a bunch of money. And so it's a really difficult assessment to say today you're spending money knowing you're getting a stabilized city hall, you're getting a stabilized financial infrastructure, knowing that in the past, part of the structural deficit was caused by things that perhaps in retrospect didn't serve the community as well as it could have. So I want to just call attention to this clean audit, because I think that is a really great summary of where we are today. I'm just going to echo what I said during the other labor negotiations, which is that this is it. This is the rebuild. All of our department heads are new. |
| 02:41:39.33 | Warren Wells | So, |
| 02:42:16.64 | Jill Hoffman | All of our department heads are happy in their jobs. I may have missed one or two, but for the most part, we've got new finance director. We've got a new community development director. We have new parks and rec director or that department got restructured. We have a new HR person. This is a new city hall. And I think there's a lot of reasons for that. And I think our city manager is one of them. Is this sustainable to do something like this every year? No, it's not. And it's the same thing I said during the other budget negotiations. It's not sustainable to continue a spend, but we have stabilized and we're in a really good place and I'm really proud of this council and my colleagues for getting us here. So I'm glad we had a really rigorous conversation. There are a lot of topics here that needed to get publicly aired. They did. I appreciate the motion to add additional information to the public record. I do lament that we didn't have that prior to the meeting. I think it probably would have saved us all a lot of time. But I'm glad that we have that. And I appreciate that it's going to be publicly available moving forward. The only thing that I would request, and this is just by form of an update and is not intended to modify a motion, but I would like to be kept apprised of other cities and their negotiations with their city managers. Because I want us to know as a council exactly where we stand. Because we're looking at numbers at a snapshot in time. I don't know when the next negotiations are for other communities. I don't know if next month we're going to see a new contract for someone who's sitting |
| 02:43:13.56 | Warren Wells | But, |
| 02:43:30.75 | Warren Wells | Thank you. |
| 02:43:30.82 | Ian Sobieski | I'm sorry. |
| 02:43:45.06 | Jill Hoffman | $3,000 below Chris. I want to know. I want to report on that. And so I don't know if that's our HR department or Deborah, but I just want to throw that out there and ask for that update. |
| 02:43:57.50 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. Okay, Vice Mayor. |
| 02:43:59.73 | Melissa Blaustein | Bravo Janelle. I'm glad I didn't know what to say because you could, I agree emphatically with you and it was a beautifully articulated message. And I want to, you know, not leaving anyone out, but particularly call out Councilmember Cox's reprise of all the things Chris has done, a real tour de force of accomplishment. And I know that just because someone's doing a fantastic job doesn't mean they deserve an infinite salary. You know, we're not... all the hubbubaloo you think there was a proposal to pay our city manager a million dollars. But as I pointed out, the difference between number three and number seven is $20,000. I can't think of It feels out of proportion, the whole grinding on the minutiae of that kind of distinction. Relative to the discussion of what we paid SCIU or the police union, then these are where the big dollars were and we had a big discussion about them. But our city manager discussion here, seems to be a little bit aside from the actual impact, fiscal impact. So I have to think it has something to do with, Generalized concerns about the state of Sausalito, you know, we all see our infrastructure, we all want things to be better. We want to have more responsive government, we want to have no mistakes in the staff report, we want to have agendas that are clear months in advance. We want to not be up against the gun on our EIR or housing element. We want all these things and to do all those things you invest in people and so we've invested in our people. At the SEIU level, we invested in our police and we're investing in Chris. And what the city of Sausalito is getting with today's contract is three years of stability with an outstanding leader. three years of stability with an outstanding leader. And we can turn our attention to continuing the march forward. without getting in our own way. So I'm going to be thrilled to vote in favor of this today. |
| 02:45:55.94 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, Vice Mayor. Okay, so we'll go ahead and call a roll call vote, please. And again, we're voting on the resolution with the amendment to the resolution to include loan. What's the language on the car that you would call? provide use of a vehicle, which is the seventh bullet, and complete elimination of the sixth bullet within the resolution. |
| 02:46:15.82 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Cox. Thank you. |
| 02:46:17.63 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 02:46:18.00 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. Council member Hoffman? No. Council member Kelman? |
| 02:46:20.87 | Steven Woodside | No. |
| 02:46:22.96 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 02:46:23.05 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 02:46:23.28 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 02:46:23.30 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:46:23.32 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. Vice Mayor Sobieski. Thank you. |
| 02:46:25.98 | Melissa Blaustein | Yes. |
| 02:46:26.01 | Walfred Solorzano | Yeah. Premier Blastie. |
| 02:46:27.48 | Steven Woodside | Yes. Okay, thank you very much. Motion passes for one. And we will move on to item 5B, which is to receive and file the report regarding the bridgeway safety study between Napa and Johnson Street and provide direction to staff on whether to proceed with the development of plans specifications and estimates for the improvements recommended in the report, and we will hear from. Director Kevin McGowan. |
| 02:46:50.01 | Kevin McGowan | Good evening again, Mayor and City Council members. I'll just start by saying now for something completely different. |
| 02:46:55.97 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:46:56.46 | Kevin McGowan | So. |
| 02:46:56.71 | Matthew Hartzell | THE END OF |
| 02:46:57.59 | Kevin McGowan | I would like to have our consultant, David Parisi and Jen Schreiber from Parametrics, lead us through a presentation on this particular project, which is a study of our area right here in front of City Hall down on Bridgeway. And Noelle, maybe you could help us with the presentation as we go through. As they finish up, I do have a few comments on the staff report and especially the budget, so I'll step in just after that. Thank you. |
| 02:47:27.20 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:47:31.24 | David Parisi (Consultant) | Good evening. Mayor and city council members, I'm David Parisi. Transportation engineer with parametrics, and I'm joined tonight by Jen Schreiber. A TRANSPORTATION PLANNER with our firm and I'm going to do a few slides and Jen's going to jump in. Next slide, please. Um, We're going to discuss existing conditions on this corridor. And again, we're looking at a bridgeway between Napa and Johnson. Also some of the improvements that had been considered. for short term and long range consideration. We developed a plan that can be phased or done all at once, and we'll describe that tonight as well. And we did some extra work and looked at a couple locations outside of the study area to come up with some ideas where there have been concerns expressed to us that we heard during some of the public outreach. And then finally, we'll cap it all up with some recommendations and as your public works director, discuss, he'll come back up here and talk a little bit about budget. Next slide, please. The intent of this project that we've been working on for over a year and a half was to look at bridgeway between Napa and Johnson. That's six blocks. of street. but there's also seven intersections. And in that area, there are 11 crosswalks that are not controlled. So there's a lot of crossing traffic here. There is a complete bike lane in the southbound direction, but northbound the bike lane is discontinuous. There's also been a lot of crashes over the years, and we took a deep look at that. to try to understand what is going on and what kind of countermeasures could be deployed to address those. And that was really the focus of this project. Next slide, please. Our process was generally four steps. The first was to look at existing conditions. We spent a lot of time in the field taking measurements, understanding where cars can and cannot park. where the crosswalks are, what the striping looks like, and assessing all the different collisions that Jen's gonna talk about momentarily. We then developed a series of potentially phased improvements that we'll describe tonight. including some that could be done possibly very quickly and others that could be longer term. Throughout the whole process, we did a lot of outreach, working with your BPAC at a couple points, first off, really understanding the conditions and then coming back to them with some of the recommendations. And tonight we will share with you some of those recommendations that the BPAC does endorse. Next slide, please. And with that, I'm going to turn it to Jen for some of the background and crash information. |
| 02:50:14.13 | Jen Schreiber (Consultant) | All right, thanks. So as many of you already know, Bridgeway is a really key road linking San Francisco to Marin County. And it's a critical route not only for commuting, but for recreation. So it's used a lot by people using all modes. So driving, walking, cycling, And they're especially high volumes in the summer during that peak tourist season. It's important to note that with that peak tourist season, especially, We have a lot of cyclists that are ranging in skills, comfort levels, and knowledge of the area. I'm not sure. Bridgeway is part of the San Francisco Bay Trail, and it's been identified for improvement in several city plans, including the Sausalito general plan as well as the bicycle and pedestrian plan. Next slide, please. The road ranges in width from about 11 to 14 feet. And it's delineated, the lanes are delineated using box dots, which are those faded dots that you can see in those pictures. that, as you can see, don't really provide adequate lane delineation. So as a result, It can be difficult to tell where the lanes are, and this can encourage speeding from drivers. In terms of pedestrian conditions, there are long, dense, redundant crosswalks, and vehicles tend to park too close to these crosswalks, creating visibility issues. that. So- Crossings are generally somewhat difficult for pedestrians, and this is especially so at Napa, even though there is a beacon at this crosswalk. On the plus side, though, the side work network is complete along Bridgeway. Intersections have ADA ramps and some have bulb outs as well. In terms of cycling infrastructure, there is a lack of a continuous northbound bicycle lane from Johnson Street to Litho Street. And this lack of comfortable bike facilities causes some cyclists to use the private parking lot or narrow multi-use path on the northbound side of the street. Then as far as parking is concerned, there's 56 total parking spaces between Napa Street and Johnson Street. Next slide, please. We performed a collision analysis to really dive into what some of the safety issues are along the road. And we looked at what was then the five most recent complete years of data, so 2017 to 2021. We found that during this period, there were 38 collisions along the stretch of roadway, and those include two severe injuries and zero fatalities. Thank you. Pedestrians and cyclists were involved in approximately half of the collisions that but they tended to make up 71% of injuries, as well as both of those severe injuries. So one involved a cyclist and one involved a pedestrian. And the corridor and its intersections are included in the Marin County High Injury Network, both in the 2018 systemic safety analysis report, as well as the upcoming local road safety plan. As you can see from this chart on the right here, there are a number of primary collision factors. So essentially the behaviors that precipitated the collision the most prevalent being improper turning, unsafe speeds, and pedestrian right-of-way violations. Thank you. Next slide, please. So this graphic here shows the location of the crashes by the mode involved, starting at the upper left at Napa Street and ending at the bottom right down at Johnson. And we can see that the crashes were spread throughout the corridor. Particularly, there was a high frequency of of crashes involving cyclists and pedestrians at Napa Street. while Locust, Pine, and the Johnson intersections all had a fair number of crashes as well. The two severe injury crashes occurred, one at Napa Street and one at Locust Street. And there was one collision involving a cyclist and a pedestrian that occurred at Pine Street. In terms of the directionality of the crashes, over half of the The parties who were at fault for the crashes were traveling south at the time of the collision, Most of the remainder were traveling north, which we would tend to expect. Subbound crashes occurred particularly around the intersections with Napa Street, Locust Street, and Pine Street. as well as some in the segments between the intersections, notably between pine and locust. It's... Important to note, Johnson was the only intersection where collisions happened from at fault parties traveling in all four directions. Next slide, please. So we created a toolkit of improvements, and these are sort of rolled up into the phased improvements that we'll be discussing later in this presentation. So I'm going to quickly run through what all of these are. All of the improvements that you see on this slide have a high ease of implementation, meaning that they are relatively inexpensive to implement and relatively easy to implement or quick to implement as well. So we'll start off in the top left. We have daylighting, which would be removing parking approaching intersections, and this is in line with the new California Assembly Bill 413, which mandates daylighting 20 feet from marked and unmarked crossings on the approach side. as well as 15 feet from crosswalks with bulb outs. And this will go into full effect in the year 2025. Next we have roadway re-channelizing. So that would be replacing those faded bots dots with more clear delineations to help people stay in their lanes, but also to effectively slow traffic by visually narrowing the lanes. High visibility crosswalks are essentially what they sound like. They would be improving crosswalks to make pedestrians more visible. And then parking modifications would actually be restoring some parking spaces by removing those small segments of red curb that are throughout the northbound side of Bridgeway. Crosswalk consolidation, which we'll discuss in more depth a bit later, would be removing some of the overly dense crosswalks in order to focus pedestrian improvements on those remaining crosswalks. And then bike boxes would be adding those green bike boxes at signalized intersections to help cyclists get ahead of traffic at red signals. Next slide, please. So all of the toolkit items on this slide have a medium ease of implementation, so a bit more costly, a bit more involved. And that's with the exception of the last one, that class four cycle track. which has a low ease of implementation. And we'll get into that more later in this presentation. pedestrian refuge islands would be adding small medians in the middle of the street effectively shortening crossing distances, allowing pedestrians to only worry about one direction of traffic at a time when they're crossing. RRFBs stand for Rectangular Rapid Flashing Beacons, and these serve to help make pedestrians more visible before they step into the street, and Napa Street is a good example of that. |
| 02:57:00.48 | Deborah Muchmore | example. |
| 02:57:02.37 | Jen Schreiber (Consultant) | Bowelbelts shortened the crossings by physically bumping out sidewalks, making crossing distances shorter, and also making pedestrians more visible before they step out into the road. And then stamped asphalt can serve as a traffic calming element while also adding to the look of a road and improving the street's sort of look and feel. And then lastly, we have the two bicycle improvements, and that would be a class two bike lanes, which separate cyclists from traffic using paint, and then class four cycle tracks, which physically remove the cyclist from the roadway. With that, I will turn it over to David to talk about the improvements. |
| 02:57:44.41 | David Parisi (Consultant) | Great. Thank you, Jen. So I'm going to walk through these three phases of improvements. As I mentioned before, It can be done sequentially. or in packages, and that's how we looked at this, depending on funding availability. The first phase of improvements, again, for all six blocks, would be to first off, remove the bot's dots and the faded lane markings and install thermoplastic. And even shorten up some of the left turn pockets, because I never realized this before, but I've used this street for 25 years. And it's just like, it's really a blank canvas. There's really not a lot of definition out there. And we think some definition of the lanes would really help. quite a bit. Jen did mention the idea of doing some daylighting. There are a few locations where cars park very close to the crosswalks. And as you come out of the side street, it's hard to get good visibility. So we're We're recommending that as well. at crosswalks, providing the shark's teeth yield markings and associated signage where folks know where they're supposed to yield to pedestrians that are crossing the street, enhancing some of the high visibility crosswalks. And then One last thing we're recommending, again, with some of the parking loss, there would be some parking loss because we're talking about some of the side streets as well where cars can park right up to the street. But there's also some locations on the east side of the street where there's big X's that are marked in the street that could be reclaimed for parking. So overall, although we'd be modifying nine parking spaces, we could reclaim, I think, four or five. So that loss of just four parking spaces in this first phase. So we think this could go a long way to improve safety. Next graphic actually shows a plan view. The northern three blocks on top and the southern three blocks on the bottom. And this is just pointing out how the street could look with these enhancements in this first phase of improvements. Again, re-striping the street. making things a little bit bolder. more channelized. So folks know where they can drive, where they shouldn't. including the crosswalks, um, the daylighting. and so on. Okay, next slide. shows some improvements that we could build upon this. So again, the first phase could be done and this could come later or phases one and two could be done at the same time, which is recommended by staff. Under this improvement, as I mentioned before, there's 11 uncontrolled crosswalks at five intersections. That's a lot, six intersections. And what we're recommending is actually consolidating the crosswalks. So there's one crossing per intersection across at each of the uncontrolled locations. And we're recommending that for a number of reasons. First off, to minimize the crossings, make it more obvious to drivers. Also on the east side of the street, There's several locations where there aren't cross streets on that side of the street. Right. Locus there's two. There's a cross street and there's two crosswalks, but other locations There is no cross street, there's the park, for instance. So we think that some of the consolidation could make a lot of sense. We also discovered that this could be done in a way. if they're staggered and they're put at the right places where we could actually install refuge islands at the same time in the street because left turns aren't allowed in or out depending on the side of bridgeway that you're looking at. It was... We figured this out and you'll see on the next plan where all these the crosswalks could be located with refuge islands at the same time. Um, We are also recommending the idea of taking the center lane. where it's flush. and where there isn't a left turn pocket, possibly doing some special asphalt paving, maybe with colorization. Uh, This would allow emergency vehicles to use it, but would discourage other other drivers from using it for passing or entering a left turn lane 150 feet before the left turn pocket. So really to calm the street down, etc. So next drawing. is a plan view that builds upon phase one alternatives I mentioned before, but as you can see here, You'll see crosswalks. from north to south. being shown just a one. location it. at each cross street. So Napa on the South side, And then as you can see, They marched down the street. And it still allow the left turns that occurred today, but also the provision of a refuge area. So again, what's the advantage here? It's for the pedestrians to be able to cross one stream of traffic at a time. take refuge in the center of the street, look in the other direction of traffic. So it provides quite a bit of safety enhancement. Simultaneously, If we had these six locations where there's crosswalks, we could install rectangular rapid flashing beacons where they don't exist today. So instead of 11 of them, there would just be six, not always flashing, but definitely to provide awareness for drivers and better safety for the pedestrians. So we're excited about this idea. Typically, you'd want as many crosswalks as possible, but with the awareness and some of the behavior drivers, |
| 03:03:19.16 | Hank Baker | Yeah. |
| 03:03:19.38 | David Parisi (Consultant) | You know, driving down Bridgeway, we think this would provide Much better safety for all users. The phase three improvements would build upon these And again, everything could stay as shown in the plans with the same lane alignments. refuge islands, et cetera. But. This would be the only way to get in that northbound bike lane and close the gap. This would come at a cost though. There'd be a lot of parking that would need to be removed to do this. As a matter of fact, about 28 parking spaces would need to be removed on the east side of the road to provide that gap. So that would be the disbenefit. of this phase three improvements. Again, phase one, two, and three can build upon each other. The next graphic shows again a plan view, which is available in the report as a pull out, That shows where those Parking spaces would be removed. and how this could look by improving it and adding that that bike lane to complete the network. By the way, this is the only spot along northbound bridgeway from Princess to Gate 6 where there is not a bikeway. So this would fill in those two or three blocks. All right, next slide, please. We'd be remiss if we didn't look though at some long-term ideas. This wasn't in our scope of work. But, through the BPACs, endorsement, we decided to take a look at the idea of providing a class four or a separated bikeway. on the east side of the street. And you can see this diagram here shows what it could look like. It would be, in this case, possibly a raised two-way cycle track. It would allow cyclists to not have to drive their bikes in the traffic lanes or just separate it by paint. And it could also separate pedestrians from the vehicular travel lane. Next graphic, please. What we did determine, just based on the dimensions out there, if parking was to remain on the west side of the street, it would actually require moving the curve. on the east side. And that would be very expensive because it would need to come in a bit That is, they need to be moved or torn out, A new curb would need to be installed several feet of where the current curb is to make this work, just because of where the property lines are on the east side. And to do that, there'd be have to be some, um, some give as shown in the next diagram. Next chart, we looked at various ways to do it. Um, Any way we slice it, the curb would have to be moved. Even if. bike lanes were removed in both directions already on Ridgeway. or of parking. It wasn't allowed on one side of the street. or at the left turn lane. was removed. We are recommending keeping the left turn lane. on Bridgeway because of emergency vehicle access. The only way to do it would be to have a non-standard facility, which would be having bikes right next to parked cars, like right next to the curb. So we're not recommending that. So this is something that Again, to make it work. would take a bigger lift, a higher cost, and a lot of infrastructure improvements. That's something that could be considered in the long range. Next slide, please. Finally, we took a look at a couple other locations too. As Jen mentioned, Napa Street is an intersection is location in the highest number of collisions on this six block segment. So we wanted to understand what could be done maybe in the short term or in the longer range. This diagram is the same one you're seeing on phase two. In phase three, of the recommendations, which includes some bulb outs. A refuge island. and other enhancements. Uh, And this is something that could be pursued. We also looked at a roundabout, which is showing the next diagram. Roundabouts are proven to really reduce collisions, slow traffic speeds. I personally think since the streets coming in at a higher speed limit, And this is kind of the entrance to a different section of Bridgeway. It could be a nice gateway treatment. really announcing the entrance to this part of downtown. And you can see here it would fit. There's ways to make it work. serving the buses. bicyclists that can either use the roundabout and share the lane or get get off the roundabout. and travel through, uh, some separated bikeways. So this is a potential. We think this could reduce the potential for collisions substantially at this intersection. And then finally, The next slide will show you, we decided to take the study and go a little further to the north because The gap in the bikeway, in the southbound direction. is between Easter Bee and Napa. Otherwise, it exists between Gate 6 and Easter B, and it picks up again between Napa and Princess. So we were asked and we decided to take a look at how could we get that bike lane back in? Well, there's a way to do it. It would mean reducing or actually narrowing the lanes. Act. before southbound traffic, after Easterby, merging them right away. instead of bringing those two lanes all the way down the Napa and that right lane, you know, flows into Napa and all those cars are moving back and forth at your home. |
| 03:09:06.16 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:09:06.29 | David Parisi (Consultant) | hearing horns all the time because our office used to be right there. There's a way to do it and we show that on the next diagram. which actually shows if you look at it at the very top left, We're showing the two traffic lanes going through the traffic signal that used to be And then soon thereafter, the two lanes would merge to one. and there'd be a single lane. approaching all the way to Napa Street be enough room to provide a buffer bike lane and retain parking, but there would be some parking loss because of the lane reconfiguration. And I think we're showing about 22 parking spaces would need to be taken along this segment of the roadway. Some of those could be recovered with a roundabout installed at Napa Street. Because parking that could be actually, uh, restored almost all the way up to Napa Street. So about 15 parking spaces would be removed under a configuration like this with a roundabout included in it, if that makes sense. So again, just a little bit. an idea that's showing the potential and some of the impacts as well. Next slide. So this is our last slide. As I mentioned before, the improvements that we are recommending can be done in phases. And, um, Kevin will talk a little bit about that in a moment. Some of these could be standalone projects as well, including the Easterby to Napa Street project that I just mentioned. Long-term options, which could include, for instance, a separated two-way bikeway, would require some further refinement and analysis. The impacts are a little larger than we expected. And of course, the city and key partners will need to look at some funding options. I know Kevin has some. Capital funds he wants to talk about. using for some of these initial phases. But I will also mention that as Jen said earlier, There's high crashes on this segment, particularly at Napa. And our previous work on the countywide systemic safety analysis report this segment compared to many roadway segments throughout Marin scored very high on a benefit cost ratio for potential safety funding. So there are some potential projects here that could apply and must be very competitive for grant funding. particularly at Napa Street. So that concludes my presentation. We're here to answer any questions you may have. |
| 03:11:40.16 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Do you want to ask questions of the Parisi team, or should we hear from Director McGowan? |
| 03:11:44.71 | David Parisi (Consultant) | Thank you. |
| 03:11:44.75 | Melissa Blaustein | Should we hear from the record? |
| 03:11:46.62 | Steven Woodside | to complete the presentation. |
| 03:11:47.84 | Melissa Blaustein | Do you mind if I just ask a question too, just while you can still remember? |
| 03:11:48.90 | Steven Woodside | Go ahead. Thank you. |
| 03:11:52.24 | Melissa Blaustein | So... So the bike lanes on the east side of the bridgeway section there, I was surprised, given how much sidewalk there is, there's that thing that looks like a little putt-putt golf course right in the middle, that there isn't physically room there for the bikes. Is that because of the trees? Is that because of the need for pedestrians to have safe sidewalk access? Why does it not fit there without moving? I think you can be careful. |
| 03:12:03.88 | Patrick Seidler | Yeah. |
| 03:12:14.87 | David Parisi (Consultant) | I think you mean for like a long-term option that we're just... |
| 03:12:18.02 | Melissa Blaustein | one option of this truly separated bike ways. Yeah. |
| 03:12:20.27 | David Parisi (Consultant) | Yeah, because there's just not enough right away because the minimum dimensions that you would need. Okay. And the best design would be a sidewalk of six feet in width and then two four foot bikeways. So another eight feet is 14 feet. And then you need separation about another five feet from the edge of the bikeway to the traffic lane or the parking or the curb. And when you do that, that space isn't available out there today. When you start measuring it from where the right of way is on the east side. it would actually push the curb out about five more feet into the street to make it all work. What's there today is pretty nonstandard. It's not how we design them today. And I know exactly where you're talking about for those couple of blocks and that AstroTurf in between. But it's very skinny. |
| 03:13:12.46 | Melissa Blaustein | Right. and non-standard is not acceptable? Or could you do a custom design there that's still safe? I know you said that you would have to be too perilously close to the cars. And yet at the same time, I think, and see people riding their bicycles on the sidewalk there. If they're going to do it anyway, then is there a way of making it safer? |
| 03:13:30.20 | David Parisi (Consultant) | there'd be some liability involved with that. Again, the way you need to do it, I showed you on the chart, Uh, you'd have to have that bike way, an eight foot bike way right against the curb. So people would be riding their bike right next to either moving cars or the car doors that would be opening up from parked cars. The city could accept some liability with that because it is in again, would not be designed to meet the current design guidelines. |
| 03:13:55.97 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 03:13:56.09 | David Parisi (Consultant) | practices. |
| 03:13:56.10 | Melissa Blaustein | best practices. One other class of question. Two of your concepts involve some modification of parking. There are elements, some of that parking I know is used by employees to walk to their jobs. Is it in your scope? Could it be in your scope to consider parking alternatives such as reviving the old Sally shuttle or some sort of employee parking scheme so that you aren't presenting a net loss of parking, but rather you have a mitigation alternative so that it's net neutral, but you incorporate it in your plan? |
| 03:14:27.79 | David Parisi (Consultant) | We concluded our study is certainly could be considered in a phase one and two only had a net loss of four parking spaces total of the whole 5556 parking spots. You know, if the northbound bike lane was installed. or a two-way cycle track, that's when you get into the big parking losses. You know, if parking is, uh, you know, a premium, it would need to be considered how are you gonna mitigate that parking loss? |
| 03:14:57.44 | Melissa Blaustein | Can you do that work or is that someone else's department? Uh, We'd be happy to take it. I mean, is that an area of your expertise or? |
| 03:15:06.57 | David Parisi (Consultant) | Yeah, we do a park analysis, but again, Kevin can talk about that. |
| 03:15:12.46 | Kevin McGowan | It's just not in their original scope. So if we need to modify their scope in the future, we can do that. |
| 03:15:19.70 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you very much. Thank you very much. |
| 03:15:24.19 | Unknown | Councilmember Cox, go ahead. |
| 03:15:26.10 | Joan Cox | You know, I don't bike much, but I scooter quite a bit in both directions, and it's scary in some sections, I have to say. But even though I do that a lot, I have a heart. And even though I've lived here, 40 years. I have a very hard time envisioning everything that you have on your maps. If we were to decide to proceed, do you ever do mock-ups? Like, do you paint the street or, you know, when, as a planning commissioner, we got to see, you know, story polls that would show us what was about to be undertaken so that residents and businesses could understand what it is we're actually considering. |
| 03:16:08.79 | David Parisi (Consultant) | That's a wonderful idea. And this street really could be perfect for that because removing bots dodge can be done with a flat shovel. putting down paint could be done instead of the thermoplastic. So a quick build demonstration project. could readily be done. And I think that's a great idea. |
| 03:16:30.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:16:31.18 | Melissa Blaustein | Can I just dovetail on that? Also, can you just use a Unity engine and do a VR mockup of your scheme? Or is that not something you guys are proficient with? |
| 03:16:41.26 | David Parisi (Consultant) | So Jen actually is proficient with that. Some of these graphics that you were seeing earlier are some mockups that we've done on just a single block just to show a prototype. |
| 03:16:55.05 | Steven Woodside | Councilmember Kelman, I see you have your hand raised. |
| 03:16:57.19 | Jill Hoffman | Great, thank you. Thank you, David. Nice to see you. Sort of question maybe for Kevin, or maybe David. I'm just wondering how this became the subject of conversation. Was this, did you do a sort of a survey of the entire community and decide that this was the most dangerous intersection and therefore worthy of further study. And then who is developing the scope? Sorry, there's a Siren. And who's developing the scope for this? So you said you looked at some things a little bit outside the scope. How do we know kind of what the actual direction was and how the decision was made to actually spend resources on this area? |
| 03:17:36.41 | Kevin McGowan | So, Thank you, Council Member Kellman. It's a bit of a long answer to your question. So this, this section of roadway has been noted as a safety issue for many years from our pedestrian bicycle advisory committee. In addition, you heard from David saying that he is involved with a county study that has also identified all the accidents throughout the county, and this being one of the highest. So I want to reemphasize the importance of this particular project. There are safety issues here. And they're not necessarily for bicyclists alone. They're for pedestrians. It's crossing this street and those double crosswalks. Those are issues. I could have brought up a video from our Pedestrian Bicycle Advisory Committee several years ago actually showing somebody who was hit. at that time. But it was too dramatic for this council meeting at this point. So we have a lot of evidence going back many years from PBAC showing that these crossings are an issue. Now, even going back from my time here at the city of Sausalito, Uncontrolled crosswalks throughout the county and throughout the state are problematic. We definitely have to take a close look at that for pedestrian safety. and really We've been concentrating a lot in our presentation on cyclists and others. But to me, this is a pedestrian project. We have to make things safer on this stretch of roadway. The speeds are high. as well as people don't see the pedestrians when they're ready to cross the street. That's a problem, and that's really what we want to address. |
| 03:19:17.23 | Jill Hoffman | So, Director McGowan, thank you so much for saying that because from time to time when we talk about PBAC, and I know this came as a recommendation from PBAC, sometimes we get the comment that we've forgotten the pedestrian aspect of the pedestrian and bicycle advisory committee. If we were to focus more on pedestrians than bicycles, and I'm not suggesting we should, would the conclusion be different than what we're seeing today? Or are you suggesting that this is something we should consider that is balanced and can address both concerns? |
| 03:19:47.76 | Kevin McGowan | You know, since I'm suggesting this is mostly a pedestrian improvement type of project for safety, I do recommend phase one and phase two, which David mentioned in his report. And that addresses several different issues. It removes that secondary crosswalk at a lot of these crossings. It may, depending upon how the design develops, has pedestrian refuge areas possibly in the medians as well. So that could be an added bonus as well as looking at rapid flashing beacons at some of these crossings and colored center medians to help delineate where people are supposed to drive. The idea is to slow down some of the vehicles as well as cyclists going through this area so that they pay attention to the pedestrians trying to cross the roadway. That's the safety issue. |
| 03:20:39.79 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Appreciate that. Thank you. Other questions? Yes, Councilmember Huffman. |
| 03:20:45.03 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. I had a clarification, I guess, question, director McGowan, and I don't know who wants to answer it. It was, um, I just wanted to ensure that I didn't understand what phases in the fiscal impact. I really liked the way the staff report was laid out, by the way. I thought it was really clear. It tells us prior action. It tells us clear alternatives. And then it also gives us the fiscal and that it's part of our CIP, because you know that question is always coming, right? |
| 03:21:15.24 | Kevin McGowan | It is. |
| 03:21:15.76 | Ian Sobieski | So what phases are that for? Or I see the fiscal impact in the expense amount of $884,880. Is that for phase one, two or three? |
| 03:21:30.95 | Kevin McGowan | It's a very good question. And when this project was originally developed, the design phase was in the previous fiscal years. So if you'll notice on the, I think it's the fourth page of the staff report, it notes that fiscal year 2223 had $60,000 associated with the study itself. And that contract came in a little bit higher, but that's been previously paid for at this point from a different budget set, different fiscal year. Now, when we prepared the capital improvement program for this fiscal year, We anticipated that there would be a construction cost of about $800,000 for this project. We did not have the report in front of us that detailed whether it was going to be phase one, phase two, or phase three. So it was simply a guesstimate at that point in time. We wanted to make sure to secure some funding for this project. There will be other possible... I don't want to say that there's going to be increases, but there are some variables. One has to do with the condition of the existing roadway. Do we need to resurface that thing? At this point, my rough number of 800,000 probably doesn't take that into account. It's too long of a stretch. But if we decide to include some funding for our resurfacing program within this stretch of roadway, which is very appropriate, then sure, we can probably increase this amount to cover that particular phase of the work. So to answer your question, the $800,000 that's noted in the staff report was developed before we knew there could be phase ones or phase two. We haven't separated that out yet. |
| 03:23:11.93 | Ian Sobieski | Okay, so I think that answers my question, sort of. But if we decided to go with either phase one... in phase two or just phase one it seems to me that it's covered in our cip budget And we have funding available for it. |
| 03:23:25.72 | Kevin McGowan | Right now it is, and obviously with any construction project or design projects, we'll develop further estimates and details and bring that back to you before we even advertise anything on construction. |
| 03:23:37.09 | Ian Sobieski | Okay. Thank you. And I had a couple follow-ups for Mr. Parisi. Of course. Please. Mr. Preece, I agree. When I drive along that stretch at night, it's very dark and it's really hard to see pedestrians in the crosswalk. So I'm happy. You know, we talked a lot about when we installed the, what was called the flasher at Napa. And I think it's been pretty successful. I mean, it looks like, unfortunately, there's still collisions there. But, you know, it's easier for pedestrians to get across that. I think that was the highest at the time. Unfortunately, there's still collisions there, but it's easier for pedestrian to get across that. I think that was the highest, at the time, that was probably the highest contact |
| 03:24:16.44 | David Parisi (Consultant) | Yes. |
| 03:24:17.02 | Ian Sobieski | So I'm happy that we're considering, are we considering the flasher? Are we considering inground? Do we have an analysis of that? Because I know we talked a lot about that. Director McAllen, when we did the flasher |
| 03:24:29.83 | David Parisi (Consultant) | recommending if they're if the crosswalks are consolidated that you use the flashers they're much more effective user to maintain and cheaper than the in grounds and they're the standard |
| 03:24:39.83 | Ian Sobieski | Okay. |
| 03:24:40.19 | David Parisi (Consultant) | today. |
| 03:24:40.51 | Ian Sobieski | you |
| 03:24:40.58 | Steven Woodside | All right, thank you. Thanks for that. I have just a couple of questions for you and thank you for the presentation and the time and thank you to PBAC as well for their efforts and work with you on this. So I've had a number of questions from and, you know, a push for from residents for a roundabout. So I was happy to see that on the long term, but I'm wondering what the. |
| 03:24:45.13 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:25:00.74 | Steven Woodside | how realistic that is. Is it just so much more cost prohibitive? Is it the, in your experience in doing these types of traffic studies, is it the dramatic shift in the flow of traffic that puts it in the long-term category? how likely are we to see that through if we wanted to pursue it? |
| 03:25:17.19 | David Parisi (Consultant) | I'd say we subjectively put in a long term because it would be millions of dollars to implement something like that. |
| 03:25:22.26 | Steven Woodside | That answers that question. |
| 03:25:23.66 | David Parisi (Consultant) | But on the other hand, as I mentioned before, that intersection in our previous work scored very high I should say very low. and to benefit the cost analysis for highway safety improvement program funding. We think it still will be at that level. So it could Very welcome, Pete. for federal funds, which the tenant would need to match about 11%. There is potential for some potential. enhancement there. |
| 03:25:52.38 | Steven Woodside | And does your firm help facilitate the applications for those grants? |
| 03:25:57.61 | David Parisi (Consultant) | Yeah, last year we actually were able to help Marin communities acquire over $35 million in grants for infrastructure improvements. |
| 03:26:05.78 | Steven Woodside | And in your opinion, would it help and put us in a better position to move forward with phases one and two to demonstrate a commitment to improvements and then apply for the grant? |
| 03:26:14.89 | David Parisi (Consultant) | Yes, or simultaneously say that's your match. |
| 03:26:18.30 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 03:26:18.33 | David Parisi (Consultant) | as part of the project. |
| 03:26:19.40 | Steven Woodside | Okay, great. All right. Thank you very much. Any further questions from the dais? Director McGowan, did you know anything you wanted to add? |
| 03:26:29.81 | Kevin McGowan | Sorry, no, I think we covered the aspects of the budget and the fact that this is a generally a pedestrian improvement project related to safety on this stretch of the roadway so thank you. |
| 03:26:40.34 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. Okay, I will now open it up for public comment. |
| 03:26:44.81 | Walfred Solorzano | Matthew Hartzell. |
| 03:26:51.34 | Matthew Hartzell | Good evening. Thank you. My name is Matthew Hartzell. I'm the Director of Planning at WTB TAM. And I want to completely agree with staff's recommendations for council to decide to go forward with the PSE for Phase 1 and 2. This is one of the most dangerous streets in Marin County, and Phase 1 and 2 improvements would significantly improve pedestrian safety, and that's extremely important and should be a top priority for the city. At the same time, I would also encourage you to go forward simultaneously with the H-SIP Highway Safety Improvement Program grant for the roundabout at Napa and Bridgeway, and to simultaneously direct staff to proactively go after the Bay Trail and Safe Pathways to Transit MTC grant, which is going to open up in June 2024, because the long-term cycle track option is, in fact, it could be short-term. It doesn't have to be long-term. You don't have to pay for it at all. There's money. There's $150 million from regional measure three that the MTC is going to be allocating specifically for closing Bay Trail gaps in the nine counties of the Bay Area. And this gap has been named by the MTC the number three priority in Marin County and the number 20 priority in the entire Bay Area. So this is a very competitive project. So I realize the city doesn't have the money to do a cycle track on its own dime, but the MTC could definitely help. So I would urge council to direct staff to apply for that grant when it comes up in June, 2024 and to start getting ready for that grant right now because there's less than six months before that opens up and that will realize close a gap in the north south greenway that Sausalito has been planning for 30 years it's really time the long term is now thank you |
| 03:27:54.84 | Warren Wells | There's a hundred percent. |
| 03:28:53.35 | Joan Cox | Can I ask you a question? Thank you. |
| 03:28:55.22 | Unknown | Is that all right, Mayor? |
| 03:28:56.67 | Joan Cox | Absolutely. |
| 03:28:56.86 | Matthew Hartzell | That's a good one. |
| 03:28:56.91 | Joan Cox | loud. We heard that there would be an accompanying huge loss of parking spaces if we undertook the bicycle lane aspect of the project. Is grant funding available to mitigate or plan for around that loss as well as, you |
| 03:29:20.03 | Matthew Hartzell | and building the bikeway? I don't think that the MTC Bay Trail grant has money for parking loss mitigation. No. Thanks. |
| 03:29:31.47 | Walfred Solorzano | All right, Patrick Seidler. |
| 03:29:41.66 | Patrick Seidler | Good evening, Mayor, City Council. It's a pleasure to be here tonight, City Manager, City Clerk, and staff. And WTB TAM is a nonprofit that promotes sustainable mobility, particularly in Marin County, but globally. And we study international best practices from around the world and try to implement them, not only in Marin County, but around the state and the world. And so we've had the pleasure to visit you in the last 30 years from time to time. And, you know, it's always humbling coming to your meetings to see all the things that you deal with. And we know that you have a lot of complicated and difficult issues on your agenda. And, you know, we look at this as a real opportunity that's at hand that Matthew just told you about. What we want to do is to signal to you some of the things that are going on. on the North South Greenway. So North South Greenway was originally a 26 mile project And with this addition of the smart segment, They went from Larkspur to Cloverdale. It's an 81 mile project. And the Bay Trail has some funding that's coming through of $150 million. You've already heard that you guys qualify, they're ranked very highly for that. But in addition, up at the Charles McGlashan pathway, they're talking about putting a new segment of the Greenway and replacing one of the wetlands and pushing it up towards Tam Valley and then back out to the pathway. So it's going to be connecting to 14,000 people in the Tam Valley. In addition, one of the other big projects that's coming online is on Tiburon Boulevard. They're building a class four pathway all the way along Tiburon Boulevard from the interchange to downtown Tiburon. With the class four pathways in Mill Valley, you'll be able to get from Mill Valley all the way to Tiburon. And that means that people who are leaving Sausalito, which has the biggest, most amount of bicycles and the biggest amount of accidents, is they'll be able to ride through the city of Sausalito and take the ferry out. There's also five segments that Smart's pushing forward with shovel-ready progress. And there's a lot going on in that sector and that region. And this is a really important regional project as well as a local project. Thank you very much for your time and attention. |
| 03:31:44.27 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. Right? |
| 03:31:45.81 | Walfred Solorzano | Babak McDougal. |
| 03:31:55.39 | Bethany Murguia | Thank you very much. |
| 03:31:55.97 | Babette McDougall | Thank you so much for acknowledging me. Can you hear me all right? Yes, thank you. |
| 03:31:59.48 | Bethany Murguia | Thank you. |
| 03:32:00.71 | Babette McDougall | So, Toward the end of this presentation, it's the first mention that we've heard of the Metropolitan Transportation Commission, which is tied to the Tier 4 transit nexus, which no one wants to talk about. And yet, the town's been designated. So I just wonder what parametrics was thinking because according to the definition of the tier four, There has to be a tram or something has to happen to significantly alter. for something that moves according to a motor, not other than an automobile motor. So I think I'm wondering, are we laying out a vision that will no sooner get built and then we're all going to have to tear it up to make amends for? you know, more rail systems or other types of moving people systems. Maybe we'll get cable cars. I don't know, but I just want to look at what the folks at parametrics put out. And I'm, had to say that this idea of sort of, taking the chewing gum approach to Bridgeway and lengthening out those crosswalk opportunities. That totally negates the resident experience because for those of us who live here, We know that it's not uncommon to just trundle down and go across to the park or go across to the Bay Trail and then go back to the other side and get another cup of coffee or sit down and have a meal. And so the ebb and flow of the residents has not been factored into this plan. I'd like to call that to your attention. And then finally, I saw just a very fleeting reference to relocating the ADA parking. But no one said to where. And how do you account for that? I happen to be one person that relies on ADA parking. And I'm not alone. And I just want to ask you guys to think more broadly about the realism that we're facing here. And how many changes and iterations and then how many years of construction we're stuck with as a result. All the noise and the filth and the dirt flying. the inconvenience, think about the long-range development issues that we're looking at here, and let's see if we can consolidate the vision. Thank you. Thank you very much. |
| 03:34:10.48 | Walfred Solorzano | All right, we have. Thank you. All right. Alice Merrill. |
| 03:34:21.80 | Alice Merrill | Hi, I'm Alice Merrill and I live at 117 Caledonia. And I say that specifically because Um, I'd actually really like if people came up here and said where they live, because I'd like to know if they're here. if they're local residents or if they're not, the fellow that just spoke Thank you. um, Who is he? You know, from my point of view, how do I understand what his conversation is if I don't know who he is and what he's? He seems to be connected to Parisi, but. I don't know that. I don't know if he lives here and cares about Sausalito from that point of view or if it's all about business. Yeah. So I'd love it if you guys would bring back the where you live part. I really would. Thank you very much. |
| 03:35:19.40 | Walfred Solorzano | All right. Senator Bushmaker. |
| 03:35:19.72 | Alice Merrill | All right. |
| 03:35:28.52 | Sandra Bushmaker | Good evening, everybody. Sandra Bushmaker, I live on Sausalito Boulevard, a bit of resident of Sausalito's. I first moved here in 1979. And I just wanted to share that there was a time not that long ago where you didn't dare go over 25 miles an hour Northbound, excuse me, southbound on Bridgeway without getting a ticket. And I'm talking about that segment as you leave Easterby area where the 25 mile an hour sign is posted all the way through to the end of town. Now, if I go 25 mile an hour, through that area where it's posted 25 miles an hour, I get nasty, people behind me in cars tooting their horns and saying, you know, things. things that are not very pleasant. So I'd like to... I'd like to hear from the police department on what we can do to control the speeders now before all this construction on Bridgeway. And lastly, my ears perked up when I started hearing information about the continuation of the Bay Trail. And of course, that raises the issue. And I think the public needs to be made aware of it. of the issue that is the last on your future agenda items, and that's the Bridgeway grant. I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to there, but I think that's the removal of the Bridgeway median. in downtown from Princess over to Richardson. So I think that needs to be out front and center with plenty of air and light around it. If that's what we're talking about, then we really need to get the citizens involved and bring this to the citizens' attention. Thank you. |
| 03:37:14.74 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:37:15.80 | Walfred Solorzano | Next speaker is Sharnam Brockett. |
| 03:37:23.44 | Sharna Brockett | Hi. Yeah, I was just listening to this and I'm in strong support for phase one and two. I walk all over Sausalito. I've almost got hit on one of those crosswalks. So I would love to see some more safety features And I love the roundabout idea. I lived in Europe for many years and roundabouts were everywhere and they definitely slow everybody down. So I'm, and if we can do phase three and. eventually have a roundabout, I think that's the way to go. Thank you. |
| 03:37:50.85 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, Sharna. Thank you. |
| 03:37:52.11 | Walfred Solorzano | All right, Karen Wiener. |
| 03:38:00.70 | Karen Wiener | Karin Wiener, Hi, my name is Karen Wiener Thank you for having this conversation. I live on San Carlos Avenue across the street from Christ Church in a home that my grandmother purchased in the 40s and my family has lived in since On this call, I represent the second, third, and fourth generations of my family to say that we strongly support phase one and two. and encourage the city to advance phase three uh, as quickly as possible. And I'm really happy to hear the sort of positive tone of this conversation. Each member of my family, from my six-year-old to my 78-year-old mother, use Bridgeway as bicyclists, pedestrians, and motorists. My daughter doesn't drive yet, though. uh, Bridgette Enyan- Bridgeway is not safe enough, especially not for my mother and father who still ride a bicycle for exercise and utility multiple times a week and for my six year old daughter on her bicycle, I will note, though, that worse still than riding down the stretch of road is crossing the street as pedestrians, especially to the new and lovely dumpy park. Consistently drivers are confused drive too quickly are impolite along the lines of mish miss Bush makers comments and do not yield to people walking. Prioritizing parking over private vehicle use over safe movement of people on public streets is not an acceptable position. Instead, I look to you, City Council, to lead a bold position toward safe Sausalito streets, streets for all, and soon I look forward to living in the Sausalito of phase three. |
| 03:39:29.87 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 03:39:35.51 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you very much. |
| 03:39:37.70 | Walfred Solorzano | Next speaker, Warren Wells. |
| 03:39:46.38 | Warren Wells | Hi, Mayor Blassey and members of the council. This is Warren Wells and the Marin County Bicycle Coalition. I'm calling strong support of staff recommendations to move forward with phases one and two. You know, even drivers or pedestrians at some point in their journey, we all have to cross the street. And we know that this segment is one of the more dangerous roads in Marin, you know, and part of the high injury network. I also do want to encourage Council not to punt on the phase three or the long term protected bikeway. Bridgeways is like the 101 for bike travel in Marin. You can't ride between San Francisco and the rest of the county without using it. And so, you know, I think I ask you to weigh the needs of, you know, a couple dozen parking spots against the needs of moving through traffic, you know, often more than 1000 trips a day on bikes. And just because there would be a high cost to the safest alternative for bicyclists of all ages and abilities, the one referred to as long-term, that doesn't mean the city would have to fund all of it itself. As mentioned, this quarter would likely be highly competitive for state and regional grant funding. I know I wasn't actually able to tell what staff recommended for this particular project. I would urge the project between Easterby and Napa. There would be a small parking loss there, but the cost, I believe, was estimated at $50,000. But the benefits would be very high. If anyone doubts the hazards of that segment, I'm more than happy to go for a bike ride through that block. It's seriously one of the scariest parts of any trip I have in Marin, and it's not remotely compatible with riding with children or older adults. The city has done a lot of great work, a lot of great policy work as part of its 2021 general plan. I don't have time to recite all the policy numbers, but all three phases as well as a long-term phase are wholly compatible in alignment with CP 5.0. policy work as part of its 2021 general plan. I don't have time to recite all the policy numbers, but all three phases as well as a long-term phase are wholly compatible in alignment with CP 5.3 and CP 5.4. I want to thank staff and parametrics that are working on this. Studies like this set up the city to leverage the significant amount of funding, particularly at the federal level, through the recent infrastructure bills. Let's bring that money back to Sausalito and make our city even more beautiful. Thank you so much for your time. |
| 03:41:46.17 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, Warren. |
| 03:41:46.78 | Walfred Solorzano | Mustafa Alami? |
| 03:41:52.55 | Steven Woodside | I can't hear you, sir. Your microphone is still muted. |
| 03:41:56.06 | Mustafa Alami | Yeah, thank you. Thank you so much for having me be able to talk about this. I'm a Sassaliota resident, been here for nine years, and my primary way of getting around to work and just leaders on a bicycle. So I thoroughly was very excited to see all this and thoroughly endorse it all. The one section I want to raise attention or more attention to is the whole section between Easterby and Napa, as somebody commented earlier. The traffic on that is extremely fast. It's also the section where the bike lane just immediately ends. So the bike lane just ends at an intersection, ends at 7-11. It ends when cars are swerving to the left. So it's extremely difficult to navigate. And a few times of the year, I get very close calls just biking that section. I work in Tiburon and at night I bike back And it's mad scramble just to get through that whole section. And it would just require removing a few parking spots that, you know, a little spot like RVs parked there or, transportation vehicles parked there. So that would help quite a bit. On top of that, my son goes to Tam High and he's part of the Mon Bike team and those evening practices are starting up again. So I worry about him every time he bikes home. So thank you so much for raising this and making it happen. Thanks. |
| 03:43:16.06 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:43:16.52 | Walfred Solorzano | you Jenny Silva? |
| 03:43:18.85 | Unknown | Hi, Jenny. |
| 03:43:23.81 | Jenny Silva | Yeah. Hello, council members and Mayor Blaisdine. Um, I am. I was calling in because this is a project I would love to see get done. I live in Kappa's Marina, which is the houseboat Marina by Mike Spikes. And I walked to downtown Sausalito about once a week And the joinery is my husband's favorite restaurant. So we are driving to the joinery very, very frequently. And I know both the parking and the walking. So, Ironically, I don't ride my bike down there much, even though I'm an avid biker, because it just doesn't feel safe. I would love to see us apply to get the cycle track put in place, I think would be a huge improvement. But I support phase one, phase two, and would love to see the rotary in there also. I did want to talk specifically about the parking because I've heard some concerns whenever there's discussion of parking spaces being removed. people get very concerned. And I'll just say my personal experiences that surprises me. As I say, I drive down there quite frequent. We're almost two miles away. So it's a long way to walk just to go to dinner. And we have never ever had a problem parking. There are studies that show that Marin is over-parked. I think we could easily lose four spots. I think we could easily lose 20 spots And it probably wouldn't be. an issue. you know, I just don't believe that there is evidence to support that removing a small number of spaces is going to have a meaningful impact on either our businesses or our quality of life. And if we're going to not do this for that, I would like for there at least to be investigation to confirm that there's going to be a problem or work for mitigation. Sausalito would be much better off with these improvements than maintaining a small number of spaces. um, And I'll just say, you know, right now, walking in that area is not nearly as pleasant as it could be. And if you make these improvements, it will just be, much nicer. We've got a beautiful city and I'd love to see us make the investments to make it even more beautiful. So thanks. Thank you. |
| 03:45:29.24 | Walfred Solorzano | Actually, we have a couple of cards that I forgot to pick up. Doreen Gounard. |
| 03:45:38.20 | Unknown | Doreen. |
| 03:45:40.41 | Doreen Gounard | Hi, everybody. It's Doreen Gunnar, 300 Napa Street. I've lived there 30 years. And I want to say that I am most excited about the concept of a rotary. It's what we call it back east. Where I come from Massachusetts, we have roundabouts there too, and we call them rotaries. And they really work as far as calming things. traffic. And I would love to see that right there on my corner of the street, to tell you the truth. Cause I see. I don't drive. I walked over here tonight. And I came across the street to get here. Tonight. And, It's true. Cars are coming down Bridgeway like it's a speedway. They're moving fast. And thank God we have the lights. you know, the lights that the flashing lights, because that's really helpful. Yet at the same time, The road is super wide. right in there as you're making that crossing, you know, from, from Napa across Bridgeway. So I really do think that, you know, all these ideas, I'm all for all of them. I'm going to say that straight up. And I really, no, I mean that. I really do. And I think that we do have to start thinking about our future. and less about what's going to happen right now, but really thinking further out. I just hope that we can do that together. And I love this idea. So thank you. |
| 03:46:58.21 | Unknown | Thank you, Doreen. |
| 03:46:59.81 | Walfred Solorzano | And Carlito Berg. |
| 03:47:05.43 | Steven Woodside | I've decided you need to wear your glasses, Joan. I need glasses. |
| 03:47:10.58 | Carlito Berg | I need glasses too. I can't see anything. |
| 03:47:12.55 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 03:47:13.16 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:47:14.61 | Carlito Berg | So I apologize if my speech is a little more slurred than usual. I just drove a thousand miles this morning. So from early in the morning, but I wish I could have biked it all. You know, I've been trying to get a little more fit. I've just moved in on Caledonia street and I went to go for my first run. And of course it was a rainy day. And as I go to ran across the street, there's a car coming and it's coming and it's coming and it doesn't stop and it doesn't see me. And it whizzes right by me while I'm trying to cross while the lights are on. I'm for every single one of these measures. We should have a roundabout. We should have more stuff. The most protected infrastructure we can have for seniors, young folks, people like myself would be great. Thank you very much. |
| 03:47:59.33 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:47:59.72 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:48:01.98 | Walfred Solorzano | No further speakers. |
| 03:48:03.73 | Steven Woodside | Okay, I will go ahead and close public comment at this time and bring it back up to the dais for discussion. And just to clarify, there's no resolution, but rather direction to staff with regards to the phase one, phase two, and phase three. So who wants to get us started? twice married. |
| 03:48:23.16 | Melissa Blaustein | I also am in support of all these things. maybe put the seat of a motion on the table to approve the phase one and phase two recommendations for the upcoming CIP and provide direction to staff to work with PBAC and grant consultants for further exploration of the roundabout and and bicycle track concepts. |
| 03:48:44.18 | Joan Cox | point of order is that it's receive and file a report and give direction. There's no. Thank you. |
| 03:48:48.49 | Melissa Blaustein | would be the summation of the direction. So whether it's a motion or the sudden |
| 03:48:48.92 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Thank you. Mm-hmm. |
| 03:48:53.19 | Melissa Blaustein | the articulation of the direction for it to be amended, modified, or changed by my colleagues. |
| 03:48:57.97 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:48:58.07 | Melissa Blaustein | eliminated. |
| 03:48:59.69 | Steven Woodside | So phase one and phase two. Thank you. |
| 03:49:01.87 | Melissa Blaustein | The direction is to approve this or adopt the recommendation of phase one and two for the upcoming CIP and direct staff to work with the PBAC and the grant consultants for further exploration of the roundabout. |
| 03:49:04.13 | Steven Woodside | Mm-hmm. |
| 03:49:16.28 | Melissa Blaustein | and cycle track concepts. |
| 03:49:19.26 | Steven Woodside | Anybody else? Oh, hi, Councilmember Kelman. Yes. |
| 03:49:21.97 | Jill Hoffman | Just another point of order. So because this is a receive report, Is the recommendation to add it to the capital improvement program for further vetting at such time when we're presented with the entire capital improvement program? Because we have other projects that require funding and the funding on this would then come into competition. And so I'm trying to understand... it gets added to the program and then we would review it further i just want to be very careful about the direction and understand that gallon has a problem |
| 03:49:52.17 | Kevin McGowan | Pushed it out. |
| 03:49:52.61 | Steven Woodside | THE END OF THE END OF THE Yeah. |
| 03:49:53.40 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 03:49:53.42 | Steven Woodside | to clarify for us. |
| 03:49:55.36 | Kevin McGowan | Good question, Council Member. Keep in mind that we do have a budget that is set aside from last year's CIP. Staff's recommendation is to proceed with uh acquiring a design professional to start the process of looking at designing phase one and phase two so that would be sending out an rfp to secure the services of a design professional and then we would bring that back to council for approval so there would be more steps where we bring this back to council. |
| 03:50:29.97 | Jill Hoffman | But just to be clear, I think we've learned something this year that once we allocate monies to go to design, the assumption is that we've basically approved that project slash design. So unless there is some distinction in that, Is that kind of where we are today? |
| 03:50:47.86 | Kevin McGowan | That is what staff's recommendation is right now, yes. |
| 03:50:51.96 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, so you want us to receive this. You do want us to take action and you do want us to take the action to allocate additional monies, but we don't have based on the budget and the staff report. |
| 03:51:03.13 | Kevin McGowan | I don't believe in order to acquire a design professional, we need additional funding. That's already set aside in this year's CIP. What we're just requesting from council is whether we should move forward with acquiring a design professional to start the design process. |
| 03:51:20.44 | Jill Hoffman | Sorry to belabor this, Dr. McGowan, I just wanna make the point though that In so doing, we're basically saying, yes, move forward with this project. |
| 03:51:29.49 | Kevin McGowan | Yes, that is staff's recommendation. |
| 03:51:30.32 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 03:51:30.33 | Jill Hoffman | That's right. |
| 03:51:30.59 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:51:31.53 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 03:51:32.04 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Okay. Any further? We're having some technical difficulties on the dais with our electrical cables. Please. We'll take a break after this item. Okay, did you want to weigh in, Councilmember Hoffman, on the Vice Mayor's comments? |
| 03:51:59.41 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:52:01.67 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 03:52:01.69 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 03:52:02.02 | Ian Sobieski | I'm going to go. |
| 03:52:02.38 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:52:06.16 | Ian Sobieski | Oh, pardon me. Sorry, I thought based on my question before Director McCown that it was already included in the 2022-23 CIP. |
| 03:52:17.45 | Kevin McGowan | Yes, the original allocation for $800,000 would include the design portion. |
| 03:52:22.80 | Ian Sobieski | Okay, so, Does that answer your question, Councilmember Kellman? I didn't hear it. Yeah, no, no. |
| 03:52:30.02 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. Yeah, no, no, thank you. I was trying to establish that, Jill, whether this had already been elevated, we already approved it, and basically the monies have been set aside. |
| 03:52:39.18 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. Yes. And I'm in favor, too, of exploring the idea of the phase three. I think anytime you have a change like that, you need to get a lot of you know, public comment and public input. But from now on, I'm going to call it the rotary rotary. going to think Rory is going to help us build it. So anyway, thanks. |
| 03:53:04.29 | Unknown | That's more Cox. |
| 03:53:04.93 | Joan Cox | As part of the outreach that is referenced in this plan, I would like to have some sort of mock up or some sort of rendering. on the street of what this would look like in some of these areas, because it's, I think it's important that residents understand what is being done. considered as we are asked to approve plans and specifications for a really significant financial undertaking. |
| 03:53:34.79 | Kevin McGowan | So thank you for that comment. I would just be a little bit hesitant about putting things on the street that can't be easily removed. We want to make sure not to confuse motorists or pedestrians. So let us work with that comment and see what we can come up with. That sounds great to me. |
| 03:53:51.78 | Joan Cox | you |
| 03:53:52.42 | Melissa Blaustein | Could I encourage then, Director McGowan, the consideration of some sort of virtual reality or a 3D mock-up that's in the digital space? They can be... quite good these days or so, I hear. That sounds great. All the ones that you're doing. |
| 03:54:03.68 | Kevin McGowan | That sounds great. Yep. I think our professionals can take care of that too. |
| 03:54:08.81 | Steven Woodside | Okay, and Councilmember Cox, are you otherwise supportive of the vice mayor's proposed direction? |
| 03:54:14.29 | Joan Cox | I am supportive. I made some notes about some of the components of the project that I'm not crazy about. I am. worried about the loss of parking. I realize not everyone shares that concern, but I... I'm worried about it. I'm someone who goes downtown. middle of town in all of these areas, and I rely on street parking to... uh, access our restaurants and services. So I also endorse the comment regarding from Sandra Bushmaker about enhancing our enforcement of speed limits back in 20, 16 or 17, we had a grant and we used that to put more, to put another couple of patrol people out to, enforce our speed regulations. And I think that's important that we do that periodically to remind people that this is not a freeway, even though it's called bridgeway. |
| 03:55:32.00 | Steven Woodside | Thank you for that. Councilmember Kelman, did you want to weigh in with respect to the direction for staff? |
| 03:55:39.12 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:55:39.20 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:55:40.10 | Jill Hoffman | Erika Endrijonas, M.D.: yeah Thank you, mayor yeah so I just want to echo Councilmember Cox's question so or comment that there are some things we don't like or, if there are some things we don't like. Erika Endrijonas, M.D.: Do we get to actually comment on them right, I just feel like we've had a series of projects recently that we gave direction for further study and all of a sudden, we were told you approved it. Erika Endrijonas, M.D.: And I want to make sure that we have some cushion here to be able to review this, because what we're doing is accepting a report that's the only thing on the agenda. you know, by the Brown Act, that's the only thing we can do. And if the direction is to move forward, then I would also have the expectation that should we have changes, those might be reasonable upon further review. And I just think that's the expectation. |
| 03:56:21.38 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you, Councilmember. This is Kevin again. And yes, I'm taking all your comments into account, and we will structure the RFP for the design professionals to bring back some of those sketches, diagrams, and look into putting things on the pavement, as the Council Member Cox had suggested as well. So we'll include all of those in the RFP and bringing it back to Council at a point in time where we're not fully, where the design isn't fully finished. You want to be able to bring it back to you, possibly at the 30% phase is what we usually do. |
| 03:56:54.22 | Melissa Blaustein | Could I then add a request within, maybe it's not possible, but if possible, to at least devote some time to some of the parking mitigation issues that I know Councilmember Cox brought up, concerns about parking. Obviously, if we had an employee parking program that would free up parking downtown, so the removal of spots would actually not be as's, you know, not exactly germane on the bike parking. So if that's within the scope that you can do that, that would be great. But if it's not, and you need further action, that they can come back to us. |
| 03:57:26.31 | Kevin McGowan | We'll have to. We'll have to study it a little bit more. Obviously, phase one and phase two does take away a minimal amount of parking. I think our consultants suggested four. But if there are more with these future phases, we'll have to take a look at that as well. |
| 03:57:41.09 | Joan Cox | And I do want to say I'm not worried about the four. I'm worried about the 22 and the 23. |
| 03:57:47.89 | Steven Woodside | Okay, so I think it's quite clear from the dais that we have consensus on directing staff to move forward on the RFP for phases one and two, and further direction as well for exploring phase three with in partnership with PBAC. I think that also includes outreach, which would involve a rendering of some sort of the intersection, whether that's a VR mock-up or some sort of writing on the street, a review of parking redirections and mitigations as suggested by Councilmember Cox and Vice Mayor Sobieski, a look at enhancing our enforcement of speed limits within the breadth of this as well, and I would add on an additional point which is perhaps within the scope of work consideration of partnering with Parisi to pursue the grant that had been mentioned by the folks here with expanding the North South Greenway and MTC, and just a consideration of grant funding as well within the scope of how we move forward on this. So I think that that direction for staff is clear. And if that's all right with everyone, we'll just move on to the next business item. I think we need a brief pause. Yeah, we need a pause. We'll take a five minute break. |
| 03:58:59.83 | Steven Woodside | Are we ready to reconvene? |
| 03:59:05.74 | Steven Woodside | I like this break thing, Councilmember Huffman. Good call. Good call. Okay. And now we'll move on to business item 5C, which is to authorize the city manager. to award the sea level rise adaptation plan technical and design consultant services to WRT design and execute the professional services agreement to provide sea level rise adaptation planning, consultant services, in an amount of $459,842. And we are going to hear from our sustainability and resiliency manager, Katie Tho Garcia. Take it away. |
| 03:59:37.60 | Katie Thao Garcia | All right. Good evening, Mayor Blaustein, Vice Mayor Sobieski, members of the council and members of the public who don't know me yet, although I think most people do. Katie Thao Garcia, M.D.: My name is Katie Thao Garcia and i'm the resiliency and sustainability manager, thank you noelly for helping me with my presentation today, I will be presenting business item number five C and item number five D together because they're really. their work is really intertwined, and one project cannot be completed without the other. So on the final slide, I'll have the recommended motion of both 5C and 5D. OK, point of order. |
| 04:00:14.98 | Steven Woodside | attorney, we can hear them both at the same time, right? |
| 04:00:21.08 | Sergio Rudin | Yes, you can take one staff report and one staff presentation on both agenda items, but you cannot vote on the second one until you have public comment. |
| 04:00:29.64 | Katie Thao Garcia | Okay, thank you. Thank you. All right, next slide, please. All right, first I will go into a brief history of sea level rise planning in Sausalito, some of which predates my time working for the city. So in March 2021, Mayor Hoffman announced the formation of the sea level rise task force. In November 2021, the task force submitted the sea level rise report and recommendations to Council. In 2022, the task force submitted multiple proposals for sea level rise adaptation planning on behalf of the city. Thank you. And in March 2023, a $1 million grant was awarded by California Office of Emergency Services to the city for sea level rise adaptation planning. In April 2023, I began work with the task force and outside reviewers to write a request for proposal for this grant award. In June 2023, Council approved this request for proposals and it became public. And finally, in October, 2023, just something to keep in mind. sb 272 was passed mandating local jurisdictions to have a sea level rise adaptation plan in place by 2034 and this sb 272 prioritizes funding for those jurisdictions with approved plans so passing these items tonight 5c and 5d will allow us to be on our way to sb 272 SB 272 compliance which will set us up importantly to receive prioritized funding in the future next slide please thank you so with help from the task force we developed a goal of this plan which is to prepare a community-informed sea level rise adaptation plan which includes an update of existing vulnerability assessments, a community vision document, and a prioritized conceptual shoreline design for Sausalito and the neighboring floating homes community. The plan will create a prioritized framework and identify near-term, medium-term, and long-term adaptation priorities along the shoreline with funding mechanisms. This document will then be used to leverage for further funding to implement these projects that were identified and will allow us again to be in compliance with SB 272, which will which will make us well situated for that prioritized funding I mentioned. Next slide. All right. Now we'll talk a little bit about the RFP process and RFP in the bid process. So as I previously stated on June 27th, 2023, City Council approved the request for proposals, which included the scope for both the technical and design team and the community engagement team, which were identified. This included a two year community engagement and planning process for the seal overrides adaptation plan. As defined in that RFP, the technical and design team was scoped for $450,000 and the community engagement team was scoped for $50,000. Next slide please. In August, we received five bids for the technical and design team and two bids for the community engagement team. The bid evaluation committee was subsequently formed and read and ranked all technical and design team proposals, interviewed the top three firms, and had the top three firms write, answer written follow-up questions, and subsequently checked references. The community engagement bids were read and interviewed. After this was completed, the committee gathered again to decide on the technical and design team and the community engagement team preferred selection. Next slide, please. Through the evaluation process, WRT was selected as the preferred bid with RUP, One Architecture, and Schauffen-Wheeler as their sub-consultants. Their bid, interview, and follow-up questions represented the best available adaptation science. Their local expertise, it really showcased their local expertise working on projects such as Bothine Marsh and Mill Valley, and their international experience working on similar projects like the Schoenship floating neighborhoods in the Netherlands. Next slide, please. Through the evaluation process, Rainwater & Associates was selected as the preferred community engagement bid. Sarah Silver PB, Sarah Silver PB PB Sarah Silver PB PB So working with WRT in the technical and design, working with WRT, the technical and design team's scope was refined and negotiated and landed on finally $459,842. The community engagement scope was kept the same as the RFP as $50,000. Next slide, please. All right, so this is my last slide and contains the recommendations to authorize the city manager to award the sea level rise adaptation plan technical and design consultants to WRT and execute the professional services agreement to provide the sea level rise adaptation plan consultant services in an amount of $459,842 and authorize the city manager to award the sea level rise adaptation plan community engagement consultant to rainwater and associates and execute the professional services agreement to provide the seal rise adaptation planning community engagement services in an amount of $50,000. So that concludes my presentation. WRT principal landscape architect John Gibbs and Project Manager Cristina Bejerano are here to introduce themselves if council has any questions. for them as well. |
| 04:06:45.35 | Steven Woodside | you |
| 04:06:45.50 | Katie Thao Garcia | Thank you. |
| 04:06:45.97 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 04:06:46.10 | Katie Thao Garcia | you Thank you. |
| 04:06:46.49 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much, Katie, and thank you for your hard work on this in partnership with the Sea Level Rise Task Force. And thank you to Councilmember Kelman for finding us the million dollars to make this possible. Councilmember Cox, you had a question you've hand raised. |
| 04:07:00.53 | Joan Cox | Yes, thank you. Can you give us an overview of the... community engagement timeline. So the professional services agreement for WRT makes reference of collaborating with the agency that we hired to do the community outreach. But it doesn't It's scope of work doesn't describe, it says it'll develop a project schedule, but it doesn't tell us what that anticipated schedule is. And so I'm interested to know how much and how long community engagement will entail. |
| 04:07:36.53 | Katie Thao Garcia | Yeah, so I'll answer that question basically in two parts. So there's no complete set schedule as of right now. We needed both consultants on the team so then they can sit down and work together. So the technical and design team can sit down and work with the community engagement team because they're both experts in those two different things and they need to inform each other. In terms of community engagement for this roughly 20 months, two year long process, it will be done throughout. throughout the process will create milestones at the beginning, but really it's our intent to have community engagement, council engagement throughout those 20 months. |
| 04:08:28.32 | Joan Cox | Thank you. And I do want to note that you did include this one page, but it I cannot read. I'm nearsighted, but I cannot read it. But it does have all of these tasks, task one, task two, task three. I can sort of start to read what some of those are. And part of that task one, task two does include community engagement. I see that. But again, it wasn't clear to me. the duration, and it seemed like it was sequential and not throughout the project. |
| 04:09:00.48 | Katie Thao Garcia | It will be throughout the project. Community engagement, you'll see, is structured throughout each one of those tasks while community engagement is its own task because the technical and design team needs to interact with the community engagement team. That's the really focus of that task. you'll see on the other tasks, it's perhaps maybe a little bit more clear in attachment to the scope of work, where, you know,, like if you go to page five, you'll see that it will be Team Charette workshop number one, and that's a form of community engagement that will be happening for that overall task three, which is the vulnerability assessment. Perhaps that wasn't the most eloquent. Yeah. |
| 04:09:52.03 | Joan Cox | I see. I do see Team Charette 1, and then you also have Team Charette Workshop 2, but it's not clear in what span of time those Charettes occur. So it is clear that it's anticipated as part of the scope of work, but I think there's community concern about the level of community engagement. So thank you for confirming that it will be throughout the process. Okay. |
| 04:10:18.92 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. Thanks, Director Garcia. It's nice to get your report of the work you've been engaged in. I have a few questions. I got to read our response just over the weekend. And one question I had is there's roughly $450,000 for technical design investigation and $50,000 for community outreach. And yet when I was reading the scope of work, I was having a hard time. It looked as if the contract for the $450,000 included a lot of public outreach, but maybe I'm misunderstanding the document. Is it all in the 50K bucket, the community outreach, and all the $450,000, you know, administrative overhead notwithstanding, is directed towards technical investigation and design? |
| 04:11:04.21 | Katie Thao Garcia | No, you read it correctly. The technical and design team is actually billed quite a bit for public engagement. So the purpose of the community engagement consultant is really to interface with the community in these public meetings and to provide mediation support summaries that will inform the technical and design team. but the technical and design team still needs to go to these community meetings to answer, you know, technical and design team questions. that only they can answer. So for that reason, the technical and design team and the community engagement team are billed. to be included on both. |
| 04:11:46.89 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay, thank you. So what was not clear to me was the process about design. I'm a former aircraft designer myself. So what I don't get here is what the end goal is. The work product, not the goal, obviously. The goal is to protect the community in the face of climate change. but I'm not clear. If you pick one area of town, let's say downtown Sausalito, you could imagine in the face of a 60-inch, which is one of your three scenarios, sea level rise, that you would have downtown Sausalito. You could imagine in the face of a 60-inch, which is one of your three scenarios, sea level rise, that you would have one potential strategy would be to abandon downtown and let the lake return to the middle of where parking lot one once was, and we'd have a beautiful marsh environment there that would be... lovely in many ways, but would also mean abandoning the Spinnaker restaurant and the Inn above Tides and a lot of our businesses. Another possible technical solution would be a seawall. that would do what Holland has pioneered and being able to have a third of the country below sea level and you would have the businesses still in the same place. So what I'm not clear is... are you, especially when you use the mediation term just now, is this process one where their iterative design process incorporating this public feedback towards one solution for that area? Or is the process going to be to present two, three, or four distinctly different solutions. to the sea level rise problem in every particular area. |
| 04:13:24.83 | Katie Thao Garcia | The idea is to propose three different solutions and have a preferred alternative. At the same time, we're aiming to propose three different solutions. you know, portion size projects that will prioritize critical infrastructure and natural resources, that we can take those projects and go after further funding, like I said, the SB 272 funding, to get those projects funded. |
| 04:13:58.39 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay. So when you say there are three alternatives, are they going to be dramatically different alternatives? You'd have the full, in my example, they're radically different, the seawall, the abandonment, and maybe something in between. Or are they going to be three retreat strategies or three different seawall strategies? What's the goal and direction to the... Consulting. That's my question. It's not clear for me from the scope of work. What's clear for me is that we're launching the ship and I'm not sure what happens next. Do we, we are gonna see it again at the end of the process. Like what's actually happening? |
| 04:14:32.90 | Katie Thao Garcia | Yeah, great question. So a no action alternative. So let me go back. I anticipate having three alternatives, three viable alternatives, one of which will be a preferred alternative. Indeed, a no action alternative is required. So that's, you know, an action just by doing absolutely nothing, business as usual. And the no action alternative is required by CEQA law. In addition to that, typically with adaptation plans, some sort of managed retreat option is also considered. but, you know, most of the time, community preference is taken into those three preferred alternatives and end up you really have, you end up mostly having five alternatives. You have the three alternatives that are the community viable alternatives, one of which is the preferred alternative, and then you have the no action alternative, and then you have the managed retreat alternative. So you really have all of the ends of the spectrum, and one of which will be the preferred one. |
| 04:15:55.62 | Melissa Blaustein | I apologize, I'm afraid I didn't quite follow that. Can I just ask again? Just because it's important for me, I think it's important thing for everyone to understand. So there's gonna be three alternatives for every area of town, one of which is no action, one of which is going to be managed retreat. |
| 04:16:14.64 | Katie Thao Garcia | that those will be extra. Sorry. Yeah. |
| 04:16:16.95 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay, one of which is no action, and then tell me the other two alternatives. What are they? |
| 04:16:20.87 | Katie Thao Garcia | So I should say there's really five alternatives. |
| 04:16:24.19 | Melissa Blaustein | Five, okay. So for every area of town, there'll be five alternatives. |
| 04:16:24.23 | Katie Thao Garcia | Thank you. |
| 04:16:27.35 | Katie Thao Garcia | There will be five Sausalito alternatives, so they may be continuous across the Sausalito shoreline. This is yet to be determined in the planning and design process. So you have the no action alternative, which is required by CEQA law. You have the manage retreat alternative, which is, you know, almost always included in sea level rise adaptation. And then you have three other alternatives that are community-informed, community-vetted, and proposed to the community. |
| 04:17:06.11 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay, so in that process, you know, I'm not an expert in civil engineering. So who decides what those three alternatives are that are going to be investigated? Is that you as a director? Is it? the city manager, is it the consultant? Who decides what gets investigated and what doesn't? |
| 04:17:26.48 | Katie Thao Garcia | Mostly, you know, I'm not exactly an expert on on these engineering questions like those kinds of things so I anticipate it will be an all hands at the table kind of kind of situation the technical and design team will be leading those those kinds of alternatives and that will be informed by people like the director of public works the city manager and the community |
| 04:17:54.41 | Melissa Blaustein | I'm still just sorry to belabor the point, but I do think it's important because this is a potentially dramatic project that will set the template for Sausalito for the next generation. And I think. you know, we just saw the level of scrutiny about bike lanes. And, uh, and paint on sidewalks. So when you're talking about potentially abandoning shorefront, abandoning private property, abandoning businesses as an alternative, or other mitigation strategies, it feels like we should have some clarity about what designs we actually would want to investigate and who decides what those are. |
| 04:18:28.49 | Katie Thao Garcia | Yeah, absolutely. |
| 04:18:28.61 | Melissa Blaustein | I'm so not clear who's deciding. |
| 04:18:30.43 | Katie Thao Garcia | Well, I mean, part of that is baked into the plan. So if you go through and you read, if you read the scope of work, part of that scope of work is to create a community vision document. and that community vision document is going to be one of the first things that we are going to be working on and part of that is identifying points where the community would like to see action or where they're concerned or you know anything else that they would like to point out. Once that community vision document is completed that's going to inform the vulnerability assessments in the report. |
| 04:19:09.91 | Melissa Blaustein | And Could I just ask you then why the different approach wasn't taken? Instead of starting with a bunch of community outreach to develop a community vision document, in your work product, it says you're going to investigate 10 inches, 20 inches, and 60 inches of potential sea level rise. And those maps exist, those inundation maps. Their data is there, the GIS data. Isn't it a straightforward engineering exercise to look at a couple different responses in each area of town to those different scenarios, and that that work, that technical work, would be done first and foremost so that we have a range of designs, and then those would be presented to the public, and people would then have something to react to, rather than this other way around, which is starting out with a community vision document, which then could be used potentially to constrain the design space and about what technical things we investigate. |
| 04:20:07.28 | Katie Thao Garcia | So a large portion of community engagement actually is community education. And in order to do that community, in order to get good community engagement, you really need to have informed community engagement. And part of that I see is showing those GIS maps, whether that's, you know, on a projector or whether that's printing, printing forms to have here in City Hall, giant printouts of what those 10 inch, 60 inch and 100 inches are. And then getting the community feedback from them, but it's all baked in to To one another. Thank you. |
| 04:20:45.89 | Steven Woodside | Vice Mayor, I got a text from a community member who says they can no longer hear us at the dais again, so could our... Sound person check on that to make sure that those on Zoom. So I apologize for interrupting. I just want to make sure everyone can. That's okay. |
| 04:20:58.04 | Melissa Blaustein | I, so I don't know if, so thank you for answering the question, but I still am, I guess it'll, I still am puzzled a little bit about the approach because it seems as though the technical answer would lead the discussion rather than the other way around. Because you're, you want to educate the community about the threat, I mean that's one thing, but educating about the solution seems immediately valuable. I mean, we're hiring, I think, experts, right? To design potential remediation strategies, whether it's retreats, seawalls, or something in between that I don't know about. And those have different costs. They have big infrastructure impacts. So wouldn't part of education not just be the inundation maps, but it would be, this is what it would look like to put a seawall at Dunphy Park. This is what it looks like to abandon Dunphy Park and have it turn into a beautiful marsh. Wouldn't that be like right out of the gate, the kind of work we'd want to do? |
| 04:21:56.73 | Katie Thao Garcia | We can't do some of that work without knowing the community's priorities beforehand. |
| 04:22:04.27 | Melissa Blaustein | OK, one other question. So we have these one finalists that we got, the ones that you selected with the committee. |
| 04:22:04.73 | Katie Thao Garcia | Councilman. Oh, sorry. Oh, sorry. |
| 04:22:14.05 | Melissa Blaustein | But we didn't have any other information in the packet about any of the other finalists, no presentation, no explanation about why these particular clients, the vendors were chosen versus the other ones. Would it be possible to... see that information or? |
| 04:22:31.75 | Sybil Boutlier | Sure, yeah. |
| 04:22:33.33 | Melissa Blaustein | And What was the basis? I know you went through the process, but at least here, like we looked at other bidders for the consultant for our BID. We've looked at the Business Improvement District and we hired a consultant there. And other cases where we've had RFIs or RFPs, we've seen some transparency on the submissions from other vendors. And I'm just wondering why that wasn't done in this case. |
| 04:22:58.65 | Katie Thao Garcia | It was my impression and my intake in coming into the city that the sea level rise adaptation committee or the sea level rise task force, sorry. really was heavily informing this process and should continue heavily informing this process. The task force is made up of community members and other council member Kelman and everybody else who has wonderfully given their time to help us support this. So they they continue to do so through that that process. |
| 04:23:37.29 | Jill Hoffman | Vice Mayor, maybe I can help clarify. Thank you for those excellent questions. I know your engineering brain is seeking exact answers in this moment. I appreciate that very much. Let me go backwards on the question that you asked. I don't know the common practice in City Hall as to sharing all RFP responses for every bid. That would be a question for Kevin or the city manager, but we did receive five. They were whittled down according to a criteria list that Katie developed. They were reviewed by a subcommittee that included the community economic development director, the Head of Public Works, our Sustainable Resilience Manager, and they were all weighed down on the same basic criteria. I see no reason why if Council wishes to read each and every one of them, but by all means, they're really wonderful documents and it was a really great response. And then I'm also going to suggest that maybe John from WRT, who's probably in the room, he could take you through exactly how that works. Public engagement, community engagement has a lot to do with making sure people feel heard. We got a lot of comments today about making sure people felt like we don't want to see a plan. We don't want anything to be suggested until you hear from us. And so that's why this is wrapped into an extra level of community engagement to make sure that everybody has a chance to play a role in the process before anything is suggested, so that there's no misperception that something is suggested without someone being heard. Maybe that feels a little circular to you, but we wanted to make sure that everybody had a chance to weigh in on the process. And so Katie, maybe John can can take the council members through how that works, given that they did both in March and many other projects. |
| 04:25:19.11 | John Gibbs | Good evening, council. My name is John Gibbs, principal at WRT, and pleased to be preliminarily selected to work with you all. This is an incredibly important project for this town and facing really important crises of climate change and the effects. If I can be helpful here just to kind of walk through, there was a line of questioning largely I heard around how do we define the alternatives and is that a public process to define those alternatives? I think the short answer is yes. The front end work of engaging the community around a vision around what is at stake, what is important about the waterfront, and to educate about sea level rise is the whole front end of the process before we define those alternatives. So while we won't take the alternative in advance and then show it to the community to get feedback, we're going to have all sorts of mapping around the consequences of sea level rise, of what's going to be impacted. I think we're going to get a lot of feedback that's going to inform the kinds of practical approaches to alternatives that are going to offer really relevant trade-off decisions in a continued public process. This is how we would do it if we were working on Bridgeway with Parisi, looking at concepts for a street and a corridor. This is obviously a pretty complicated set of issues we're working with, but it's a similar design process to educate, to inform, to listen, and have regular check-ins as we go to define the alternatives, to get feedback on those alternatives in order to then define this starts to be a preferred alternative. What exactly a preferred alternative is? Is it the wall? Is it the elevated thing? Is it retreat? I think we don't know. That's going to be part of the process, but it'll be transparent in, you know, whatever, however we resolve those issues. |
| 04:27:32.24 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. Who decides, though? When you say deciding among the preferred alternative, are you bringing it back to city council and making a presentation and we're deciding? Or are you and the subgroup of the C-Libraries or task force deciding? Or are you and Katie deciding? Who synthesizes the public feedback and decides among what alternatives are designated as preferred or more deeply investigated. |
| 04:27:57.72 | John Gibbs | Yeah, I think we're open to that process. I think we're expecting to be engaging certainly staff, city council, and a steering committee, if I'm not quite getting the name of our committee correct. But they're going to be informing that process along the way. And it would be appropriate for us to have that sort of a guidance as to what are those final alternatives that really get put together. I think we would welcome that kind of guidance and direction. |
| 04:28:25.89 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay, if that's the case though, I don't see it in the scope of work. So is there going to be a subsequent document that we approve that outlines this kind of important detail? |
| 04:28:34.15 | John Gibbs | I think that is probably outside of our specific scope of work. I think we have these other decision points associated with the task force meetings and city council meetings. Katie is also going to be presenting to council outside of a consultant action. So I think I'm somewhat agnostic in terms of. all the ways that that's coming from, but I'm really interested in the success of this project. And the success is going to be based upon, I think, the folks at this dais having comfort with the process and the decision, the alternatives are going to be evaluated. So I would welcome a recommendation at this point that I think staff could then direct us as we're going through the process to ensure however alternatives need to be formulated. I think we could work that into the scope of work that exists. |
| 04:29:07.25 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 04:29:39.83 | Melissa Blaustein | So you'd be open then to modifying the script of work if the council so chose to include the city council in the loop around us around some sort of presentation of alternatives and the selection of a preferred one for each of the different areas of town. |
| 04:29:55.31 | John Gibbs | So yeah, I would say yes. I'm not sure that would require a change to the scope of work, quite honestly. Yeah, I apologize. I only read it. |
| 04:30:01.82 | Melissa Blaustein | apologize i only read it and i have to go with what i read and you know these things as we all know can can once they're approved when we move on and we forget we refer back to the written document and in the written document there is no mention of coming back to city council with a report about preliminary work and a city council selection of a preferred alternative rather it's left actually vague about who's in charge and who's selecting among the different alternatives about what alternatives of a preferred alternative. Rather, it's left actually vague about who's in charge and who's selecting among the different alternatives, about what alternative gets looked at more and what gets maybe excluded. And, you know, just a hypothetical example, you could imagine. no one shows up at a community meeting and you get all people of one particular point of view fairly you would say hey the community says here we want a ferris wheel to stop climate change and you would say okay they want a ferris wheel but but that's not looking at all the alternatives and plus city council on hearing that would say no ferris wheel so. That's what I'm wondering about, whether we could have that somehow. And that's not in the scope of work. So I was just wondering if we could have something like that in there for us. |
| 04:31:10.10 | Steven Woodside | If I might weigh in just to give perspective, because I think the RFP speaks to a robust community engagement strategy, but doesn't necessarily give specifics about how the items will come back to the council, which is what I hear you saying. But what I hear our consultants saying and what I think I understand from the work of the Sea Level Rise Task Force is that this is an iterative process and this is a concept document where we're all figuring that out together. So I don't think that there's any intention through this RFP process that you would take prerogative outside of the council to determine what the best alternative is. That's what it seems to be the case is what you're saying, correct? |
| 04:31:45.16 | John Gibbs | Thank you. I think that's, Chris, that would be a disservice to the process. And we're looking for our city client side to articulate that decision-making process. I think their scope allows for a pretty clear set of steps. |
| 04:31:58.38 | Steven Woodside | So ultimately the scope we've written now If we say in this conversation, we'd love to see where you are in six months and we can talk about the process and look at what we feel and give additional direction, that would not require a modification of the scope is what you're saying. |
| 04:32:13.17 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 04:32:13.29 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 04:32:15.22 | Steven Woodside | Well, |
| 04:32:15.50 | John Gibbs | you Yes, that's built in. I even believe we have budget for an extra council meeting in here because we anticipated that something like that would be necessary. |
| 04:32:25.09 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 04:32:25.90 | Jill Hoffman | Oh, sorry. |
| 04:32:26.20 | John Gibbs | Thank you. |
| 04:32:26.24 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 04:32:26.35 | John Gibbs | Thank you. |
| 04:32:27.40 | Steven Woodside | And then we also received a lot of public comment from property owners on the waterfront who are particularly concerned about the implications for the adaptations for sea level rise for their respective properties. Do you have a plan built into this engagement specifically to work with them or to have groups of stakeholders for people who are going to be most impacted by our response to sea level rise? |
| 04:32:51.53 | Sergio Rudin | Thank you. |
| 04:32:51.58 | John Gibbs | THE END OF THE END OF THE Yes, and certainly within broader community participation, everybody's going to be there, but there's going to be a number of folks that you could call community partners, you could call them stakeholders that are also part of a more focused set of engagements. Okay, thanks. |
| 04:33:10.94 | Melissa Blaustein | So I appreciate the questioning. Look at the question, Mayor, very much. But I think what I heard is the answer is there's one, there's just a little bit of city council feedback. So I still think I still think what I heard the answer to the question is if we wanted to have more robust city council engagement, we'd have to write that into the scope of work more deliberately. Did I hear that correctly or did I not hear that correctly? |
| 04:33:32.47 | Joan Cox | I mean, I'm reading the contract, and I would disagree that that would entail additional scope, because at each stage, it talks about city approval. It doesn't say who at the city, but it does discuss city approval of the implementation plan, city approval of the adaptation plan, et cetera. Thank you. |
| 04:33:50.83 | Melissa Blaustein | here. |
| 04:33:51.17 | Joan Cox | I... |
| 04:33:51.44 | Melissa Blaustein | But would you take council member Cox, the phrase, the city to me and the city council, or would it mean Katie? |
| 04:33:57.01 | Joan Cox | Yes, no, I definitely would not be Katie. It would be as it is with all of our design projects in Sausalito. In order to enjoy design immunity, the city council has to approve the design project. |
| 04:34:10.88 | Steven Woodside | So... |
| 04:34:10.96 | Bethany Murguia | Thank you. |
| 04:34:11.69 | Joan Cox | I think that my reading of this is that the city is the city council who acts on behalf of the city. |
| 04:34:18.67 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay? Thank you. |
| 04:34:21.42 | Steven Woodside | Do we have additional questions from the diocese? Okay, we will, I just want to make notes, seeing none. Okay, we'll go ahead and open it up for public comment. Thank you very much. And to be clear, we're going to begin taking public comment on item 5A because we do need to take public comment on 5B separately. So this is public comment on item, or sorry, 5C, pardon me. |
| 04:34:45.42 | Jill Hoffman | I've seen. |
| 04:34:50.42 | Carlito Berg | Hi, everybody. Back again. Carlito Berg, Marina Office Plaza and Marina Harbor. I'm here today representing over 1,200 slips of boats in Sausalito and over 50 acres. And we're very, very excited and very grateful to Katie and Janelle for getting this million dollar grant. It's really fantastic. it's really fantastic because we on the waterfront have been waiting for many years and in many decades to actually have infrastructure addressed. And we think this could be a great first step toward that process. At the same time, we want to make our voices heard tonight and request a pause and acknowledgement that we've been dealing with sea level rise for a very long time on the waterfront. We also want to ask for a chance to include all of our learnings from all these years and the scope of work that's been prepared currently. Again, we're very supportive. We want to make the most of this opportunity, which is a one-time shot. We want to take effective and actionable solutions and ask the city also to require a statement confirming its ongoing commitment to maintenance and improvement of waterfront infrastructure. In summary, we'd like to take a pause, collect our knowledge collectively, and affirm support for the waterfront and keep Sausalito salty. Thank you very much. |
| 04:36:20.70 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:36:21.02 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. All right, next speaker, Peter Van Meter. |
| 04:36:34.45 | Peter Van Meter | Just a moment. I'm trying to get the video going. |
| 04:36:42.10 | Peter Van Meter | All right, thank you. I really appreciate House members Sobresky's comments here. I think we can learn a lot from the efforts that we had on the general plan update and the housing element, where we spent huge amounts of time and money on the so-called visioning or front end community outreach portion of the assignment. And the real community involvement happens when you actually have some hard data to be looking at. When you actually have got some assessment of vulnerability, of which the property owners are certainly well aware of. As Carlos says, that information is already there. In the front end of this project, there's a lot of duplication of reaffirming what is sea level rise, where is it going to happen, and so so on all that data is there, we don't need to reinvent or update that information that part of it can be skipped. Andrew Rothenberg- And let's get down to the nitty gritty of looking at the actual solutions and and alternatives, and so I my my assumption is that we saw so much frankly wasted time and money. |
| 04:37:23.74 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 04:37:49.48 | Peter Van Meter | on the general plan update and the housing element update as an example. where it didn't really make any difference in the end. And you can reduce maybe this contract by a third or possibly even a half in terms of the cost and have more money left over for actual construction of the mitigations that you're going to have to do by spending less time on studies, less time on interim reports. I mean, I see a vision statement, an engagement plan, a vulnerability report. Well, that's fine, yes. You need to have some vulnerability summary. But my gosh, all that extra stuff out front, you really don't need that. Please take a pause on this, go back, rewrite the scope of work, and write down the hard facts of what we need to do to solve this problem and not a lot of this |
| 04:38:23.63 | Warren Wells | but, |
| 04:38:38.26 | Peter Van Meter | frankly, upfront wasted time in my opinion. Thank you. |
| 04:38:43.33 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, Peter. |
| 04:38:44.61 | Walfred Solorzano | Next speaker, Vicki Nichols. |
| 04:38:50.78 | Vicki Nichols | Good evening, Mayor Blountstein and council members. I I'm excited to see this going forward. And I would just like to say that, I agree with the way that your proposed Um, contractor has spelled this out. Um, And, and, will respectfully disagree with Peter This subject is huge. I think the public education component, you can't even AND I THINK THAT'S A You can't underestimate. If the public's not engaged in this, the public will ultimately be paying for this somehow. So, You're going to need robust engagement. The people that you've selected, I have the highest respect for the Estuary Institute. I have followed both Dean Marsh for another board that I sit on. if they're, um, outreach potential is, uh, Similar to what they've done on that project, they've done an excellent job educating the public. and listening. So you're going to need that. I'm concerned though, when you talk about adding the houseboat community, that's the county. In 2013, I, along with some others, did a project with Kate Sears, Supervisor Kate Sears, of mapping out this area at the time. And obviously you're talking about two different jurisdictions here. How is the county engaged with this, even though sea level rise knows no boundaries? You've got a whole different community down there. And then you've got Sausalito, which is the jurisdiction of this council. So I just didn't see any, explanation of how that planning would go forward. But I'm happy to see you doing this. I know there's been a lot of work on this and it is going to take a lot of education. And you do have to consider managed retreat. That is one of the options. So I think this is a very sound process. I encourage you to go forward. Thank you. |
| 04:40:58.80 | Walfred Solorzano | All further speakers. |
| 04:41:00.55 | Steven Woodside | Okay, so we'll bring item 5C back up for discussion and then we'll make action on that and then take to public comment on 5D. So the first item is on the design. So whomever would, oh, I see that Council Member Kellman has her hand raised. |
| 04:41:15.25 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Let me try to offer some more background information. Great, great question. I'm glad we had a chance to talk about this tonight. A couple of things. Um, I think this conversation really shows exactly why we need a robust community engagement education plan, because there's a lot of assumptions and statements that are made. that show that there's a lot of learnings to be done. The RFP itself was modeled and actually in some areas actually taken directly from three different county RFPs, Transportation Authority of Marin, the County of Marin, San Rafael, Sinson Beach, San Leandro, San Mateo. We actually use RFP language and scope language that have been tried and true and vetted numerous times by many areas of public comment. So that was sort of part of the process. Regarding Vicki's question around the county, we went to the county and said, how do you want to handle the houseboats? Supervisor Mont Peters as well as Chris Chu and Roger Leventhal asked that we consider the houseboats in our analysis because Modern No's No Boundaries. But the most important thing I want to share is that this is divided into education, assessment, And then proposals. none of it is a decision and none of it ends up happening unless this body decides it will happen. Mostly that's true because of funding, because it's a capital improvement program, because there's design components, all the things that we've talked about all year. That's why the city council needs to come back to it. So the vulnerability assessment is a huge piece of it. We don't know where we're most vulnerable, and we don't know what measures exactly will address that. And we also want to make sure to Carlo and other folks' comments that we get as much public feedback as possible, that we share these learnings, and that's why this is set up. I urge you to talk to John from WRT. They designed three different plans using Measure AA money for the bike path that runs through both E-Marsh that connects Mill Valley to Sausalito. That is a multimillion dollar project that had extensive public comment, extensive RFPs that went out around it. And we picked them because of the relationship to Southern Moran, because of relationship with the regulators. So they've done this and they understand that process. I, of course, am familiar with this. And so I'm ready to put a motion on the table to go ahead and approve this RFP. And so I'd just like to have that motion out there for your consideration. |
| 04:43:39.38 | Steven Woodside | I'll second it with a couple of friendly amendments. Sure. Just to say, I would like to include or provide direction to make sure that the shared knowledge that was mentioned by the waterfront property owners is part of the scope of work so that they are, you know, or that is part of what is being considered through that. Just to respect the people that will be most impacted by what's happening on the, and I'm sure that that will already be part of their community engagement, but I wanted to make sure that that was considered, if that was okay with you. |
| 04:43:42.92 | Jill Hoffman | I remember. |
| 04:44:11.34 | Jill Hoffman | So what we could probably makes more sense is to make sure there's budget for a specific maybe even sort of kickoff meeting with those property owners to have that be the very first conversation that happens to make sure they feel they're in it from the beginning of the process to the very end. |
| 04:44:28.97 | Steven Woodside | Yeah, sure. I would welcome discussion on that. I just want to make sure we don't lose that existing institutional knowledge and that those stakeholders who are most impacted are involved in the conversation. But I will second your motion with that. And then, yeah. Okay. So go ahead, Vice Mayor. |
| 04:44:43.39 | Melissa Blaustein | I just have a question for my colleague, Council Member Cox, if she's reading something I'm not. When you said you're reading the contract, is it? Is it this thing from the scope of work, task 1, 1.1, 1.2? Yeah. Yeah. |
| 04:44:53.87 | Joan Cox | Yeah. Yeah. |
| 04:44:56.08 | Melissa Blaustein | So you called that a contract, but do you view this as a, this is a thing we're |
| 04:45:01.19 | Joan Cox | There is a professional services agreement to which that is attached. The appendix. This is exhibit A, scope of work, to the contract, which is the professional services agreement. |
| 04:45:01.22 | Melissa Blaustein | There is a... Thank you. Yeah, gotcha. |
| 04:45:10.83 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. So when I'm looking at that, and it's a question for my colleagues. I mean, I see a section on the steering committee section 2.7 that WRT will prepare and present updates to the selected steering committee members. at up to six major milestones throughout the project. But I don't see any other obligation to come back to city council. Am I missing something? Where am I missing it? What section? Hold on. |
| 04:45:43.39 | Sergio Rudin | Mayor Mrakas, M.D.: And mayor, while we're looking for that in the scope of work, I did want to clarify the motion on the floor is a motion to approve item 5C authorized the city manager toward a professional services agreement with WRT designs. |
| 04:45:58.67 | Steven Woodside | Yes, that's correct. And there's a second with the direction to staff that the first meeting be with the waterfront property owners and shared existing knowledge of sea level rise being included. |
| 04:46:10.02 | Joan Cox | So an example is at task 6.1, the consultant will present findings to city staff and city council to solicit feedback and support plan adoption. |
| 04:46:19.86 | Melissa Blaustein | So that's the entire plan, the sea level rise adaptation. That's an example. |
| 04:46:22.93 | Joan Cox | That's an example there. I did see it earlier. Here it is at the top of page 382. Unfortunately, this is an issue with our reports. I get... |
| 04:46:35.94 | Steven Woodside | on it. |
| 04:46:36.69 | Joan Cox | The 382. Thank you. my exhibits are not page numbered. So at paragraph 3.3, It says, I just lost it here. Full list to be developed with input from the city and the engagement process. So. It says, select members of the team will meet |
| 04:46:57.73 | Unknown | It says, |
| 04:47:00.63 | Joan Cox | These workshops will support the team in considering the potential impacts of flooding across the community's assets, environmental resources, recreational cultural sites, mobility options, and critical infrastructure. Full list to be developed with input from the city and the engagement process. When I read the city, I hear this, I read that as the city council. So that's task three, which is confirm vulnerable assets. |
| 04:47:25.07 | Melissa Blaustein | Right. But so just to be clear, I mean, I'm just trying to take it one step at a time through this document. The city council is going to be get a chance to look at the final adaptation plan for the whole city. And then, according to what you just pointed out in Section 3.3, we will be able to provide input into the vulnerability. |
| 04:47:46.95 | Joan Cox | Well, but also in the engagement plan, it says that the WRT will help the team identify key stakeholders to involve in the process. And so that's I'm assuming that will, of course, include the city. So what I was going to do in light of your concerns is to also offer a friendly amendment to the motion to ensure that it is clear that the city is engaged in each of these phases of the work plan attached as Exhibit A. |
| 04:47:55.73 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 04:48:15.05 | Melissa Blaustein | Maybe you can help me with such an amendment because I don't know where to put it. And you're the. really good at this stuff. My concern is that that we're launching a ship here with almost half a million dollars over several years, 20 months, and it's not clearly specified where city council's involved in critical steps along the way. It is mentioned almost in passing And. It certainly doesn't say city council, so city, so first off, we're assuming it's city. But... |
| 04:48:44.87 | Warren Wells | Yeah. |
| 04:48:45.93 | Melissa Blaustein | What I'm concerned is that we not have a situation where... you know, unregulated attendance at public meetings or some on the steering committee. The steering committee of people starts to make decisions about really big infrastructure decisions about the town without there being real public |
| 04:48:56.81 | Steven Woodside | this during |
| 04:49:05.91 | Melissa Blaustein | clarity that we're responsible for as elected officials. And so it seems to me, I mean, my ideal here would be the stage of this contract somehow. And to assess just like we are with the bid, like we didn't give the consultant at the bid, the whole amount of money to go all the way to the finish line. We're gonna, we did phase one, phase two, phase three and phase four. And we heard from the consultant at that phase. So I'm 100% supportive of this very important work. |
| 04:49:06.20 | Hank Baker | Thank you. |
| 04:49:25.71 | Mark Palmer | And I think that's a good thing. |
| 04:49:25.97 | Warren Wells | you. |
| 04:49:32.25 | Melissa Blaustein | But I think its success is gonna in part be informed by our participation in it. And so it seems my ideal would be to phase this somehow. And so, you know, I maybe I don't know if we can |
| 04:49:41.31 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
| 04:49:41.38 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:49:41.43 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
| 04:49:41.47 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:49:41.50 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
| 04:49:41.70 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:49:41.77 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
| 04:49:45.30 | Joan Cox | So it is phased into seven phases under the scope of work. So I would recommend perhaps language at the beginning that says staff will report back to city council and seek engagement and approval at the end of each phase before proceeding to the next phase. |
| 04:49:45.35 | Melissa Blaustein | So it is phased. |
| 04:50:00.82 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay, that would be a nice amendment. We could change the scope of work in that way. |
| 04:50:05.33 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:50:05.63 | Steven Woodside | Can I repeat that language again so that I have it? |
| 04:50:06.31 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 04:50:08.37 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 04:50:09.07 | Joan Cox | Staff will report the outcome and findings developed in each phase and solicit City Council feedback prior to proceeding to the successor phase. |
| 04:50:23.97 | Steven Woodside | that I had a question for Councilman for Kelman because I know that this grant which you worked so hard to get us a million dollars so we wouldn't be having this discussion if it wasn't for your hard work on it so I really appreciate you bringing it forward. Were there specific requirements for how we could use that million dollars just to understand. Yeah. |
| 04:50:44.21 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, the request was primarily for sea level rise vulnerability assessment and planning. And then, so that's, But that could be broadly, you know, it could be managing that. It could be planning it. It won't be enough money to build any of these things, but I just want to say I'm accepting of Councilmember Cox's friendly amendment to my motion. |
| 04:51:04.74 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. it. |
| 04:51:05.40 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. seconded. Do you accept? Yes, exactly. I accept the friendly amendment as well. |
| 04:51:09.62 | Melissa Blaustein | And then I don't know, maybe you can help with this, if at all possible, to work in some way for us to be involved in the assessment of the alternatives. You know, there's a phasing, but also... Thank you. |
| 04:51:23.12 | Joan Cox | That is phase four, is to identify the preferred alternative. |
| 04:51:23.83 | Melissa Blaustein | It's just that. |
| 04:51:28.35 | Melissa Blaustein | Phase four, identify adaptation strategies, identify |
| 04:51:33.13 | Joan Cox | 4.3. |
| 04:51:33.35 | Melissa Blaustein | 23. |
| 04:51:35.96 | Joan Cox | Preferred alternative. This task details the preferred alternative of future vision for the Sausalito shoreline. |
| 04:51:40.92 | Melissa Blaustein | So could there be some kind of city council engagement in each of the sections of task four? Well, it seems like we should be involved in identifying, no, in selecting really four three, I guess, in providing our input into four three. |
| 04:52:00.33 | Joan Cox | I mean, I think Katie can come talk to us as frequently as she would like, and we can certainly give her direction, I would say, to report to – to us at the conclusion of as part of 4.2 before finalizing the preferred alternative at 4.3. And it. |
| 04:52:23.92 | Steven Woodside | And in the amendment, it does say staff will report the outcome and findings at each phase. So as part of the discussions of phase four, we would have a collaborative conversation about which of those alternative states. |
| 04:52:33.02 | Melissa Blaustein | Can we take direction perhaps in there? |
| 04:52:37.49 | Steven Woodside | I think, sure. |
| 04:52:37.74 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. Sure. I mean, it's implied, but I just want to make sure it's clear that at the end of the day, |
| 04:52:40.38 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 04:52:44.12 | Melissa Blaustein | City Councils. |
| 04:52:46.03 | Joan Cox | Sure. |
| 04:52:46.35 | Melissa Blaustein | providing oversight. |
| 04:52:47.67 | Joan Cox | So is the city attorney, who will likely be the scribe for this, clear on the staff, on the city council direction on this point? |
| 04:52:58.28 | Sergio Rudin | Yes. Yeah. I think that the language amendments have been relatively straightforward and clear. So that can be included in the revised scope of work if the council wants to approve the contract as amended. |
| 04:53:10.60 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 04:53:10.65 | Golnihal Kamek | Thank you. |
| 04:53:10.72 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 04:53:10.85 | Golnihal Kamek | Thank you. |
| 04:53:10.92 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Councilman Hoffman, you haven't weighed in yet. Sorry, go ahead. |
| 04:53:13.79 | Jill Hoffman | Sorry, go ahead. Sorry, I did have my hand up. Thank you. And so you had to. All I got to do was answer Ian's questions. I couldn't tell. I thought, go ahead. It's 1050. So I, |
| 04:53:27.03 | Joan Cox | Yes. I wanted to respond to the comments regarding the general plan advisory committee, we did do an immense amount of visioning. Part of that visioning concerned sea level rise. And the visioning that we did concerning sea level rise, for me, demonstrates why the education envisioning portion of this contract is so important because we heard and saw data from the county, from the state, from a county task force. We saw all different metrics by which sea level rise is measured, and we actually had to vote on which metric we were going to adapt or rely upon as we wrote the general plan. And so I think there's a wide variance in information available and perception as to what the impacts of sea level rise actually will be. And I fully endorse Carlito's comment. He and the owner of Clipper Yacht Harbor have undertaken tremendous measures to adapt and mitigate for sea level rise. And so their involvement and understanding the measures they've already undertaken is a huge portion of the education we need to undertake in order to assess where we are and where we need to go. So I like, um, um, Councilmember Kelman endorsed the approach laid out in the work plan by WRT. I think that is the right approach, the education, the outreach, before we start to develop some of these alternatives for addressing them. So I'm in favor of this project, and I want to thank. you know, Councilmember Kalman. and the Sea Level Rise team and Katie Thore-Garcia for all of their efforts at obtaining the grant funding and following through in its implementation. |
| 04:55:42.29 | Steven Woodside | Yes, Councilmember Huffman. Thank you. |
| 04:55:44.31 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah, I think I'm asking for clarification. So I read through the scope of work, and I read through the... the other document, the adaptation plan, the technical design team document. But I just heard something that I wasn't aware of. So we're including in our plan areas outside of Sausalito in the county. |
| 04:55:56.78 | Carolyn Revell | planet. |
| 04:56:09.93 | Jill Hoffman | So it's a vulnerability assessment. Sorry, you can't get into it. |
| 04:56:12.38 | Ian Sobieski | Whoever, either one. Yeah. |
| 04:56:15.28 | Jill Hoffman | So they said that there's a vulnerability assessment, but we won't plan projects. We won't take up our time to plan projects in that area because we can't implement them. We explained that to the county. |
| 04:56:25.18 | Ian Sobieski | Okay. Yeah, thank you so much for that clarification. Regardless of that, I do support. So thank you. And thanks for everybody's hard work on this. |
| 04:56:35.12 | Steven Woodside | Okay, so I think that the motion on the table is to approve and authorize the RFP with the direction to staff that the first meeting be with the property owners and stakeholders who have already done the significant work on sea level rise with respect to their properties and on the waterfront, that they be engaged from the beginning. and with the language that was suggested by Councilmember Cox, which is that staff will report the outcome and findings developed in each phase and solicit City Council feedback and take direction. the language that was suggested by Councilmember Cox, which is that staff will report the outcome and findings developed in each phase and solicit City Council feedback and take direction for this vice mayor's suggestion prior to proceeding at each phase. So that is the motion and there's a second. |
| 04:57:12.18 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. Did I understand correctly? I just want to be clear that we're actually phasing the project. We... just like we did with the bid where we're choosing to proceed with the grant, or are we not? Are we... I thought we were phasing the whole thing. |
| 04:57:23.18 | Steven Woodside | I thought we were phasing it. We're not there is not direction to phase the cost, but there is direction before we proceed with completion of the process so each each phase of the design process each of the seven phases city council will intervene and decide whether or not they approve of the process, so it is being awarded to wrt but with a level of phases and intervention from the Council. |
| 04:57:45.00 | Melissa Blaustein | once we approve the contract, we can't change it. So I'm just going to be, I'm looking for guidance from wiser people than me here about how to do this. And the bid project, you know, like just as, that's what we just did with a consultant. We hired a consultant, who has three phases to do the bid, but we built into it that he has to come back and get authorized for the next bit of money to keep going. So it's a way of quality control. It's a way of making sure the project's staying on track. It's a half million dollar project, so Once we were signed up, On this course, if we don't give ourselves an out, we don't have enough. |
| 04:58:18.50 | Steven Woodside | Councilmember Kelman has her hand raised. |
| 04:58:20.54 | Melissa Blaustein | with the |
| 04:58:20.71 | Steven Woodside | you |
| 04:58:20.76 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. |
| 04:58:20.86 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 04:58:20.88 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, may I ask for a vote on the pending motion? It feels like If there's another motion that someone's put out there, we can entertain it, but we have a motion, we have a second. |
| 04:58:31.33 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:58:31.61 | Jill Hoffman | This is intentional. |
| 04:58:32.32 | Joan Cox | This is just a plan. Vice Mayor's latest question, perhaps we can just find a get to five oh so the contract contains a termination clause. City may terminate this agreement at any time without reason stated or required by giving written notice at least seven calendar days before the effective date of such termination. |
| 04:58:40.07 | Jill Hoffman | the- |
| 04:58:51.54 | Joan Cox | So we can terminate it at any time. The end result is a... |
| 04:58:51.59 | Warren Wells | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 04:58:58.39 | Joan Cox | I'm not sure. |
| 04:58:59.02 | Melissa Blaustein | And can I just ask you? |
| 04:58:59.64 | Joan Cox | T-level rise adaptation plan. |
| 04:59:02.00 | Melissa Blaustein | and if you terminate it, just educate me since I don't know, if you terminate a contract, one seventh and then you just stop paying at that point. |
| 04:59:09.31 | Joan Cox | pay for all level and effort and materials developed to that date. |
| 04:59:13.34 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay? Thank you. |
| 04:59:13.85 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:59:13.90 | Katie Thao Garcia | Can I add something very quickly? Please, Katie. Hopefully this doesn't disrupt things too much. But phases, they're not lined out as phases in the scope of work. They're lined out as tasks. Tasks meaning that certain tasks are going to have to happen in conjunction with other tasks. So meaning that we'll be working on task three at the same time of you know, as working on some of the other ones, just as an example. But you're- |
| 04:59:43.65 | Joan Cox | But you're- |
| 04:59:44.07 | Katie Thao Garcia | clear that |
| 04:59:44.97 | Joan Cox | do not want. |
| 04:59:45.93 | Katie Thao Garcia | Thank you. |
| 04:59:45.95 | Joan Cox | Thank you. staff or the consultant to write any adaptation plan until we've weighed in on what that should be. Correct. And you're clear that we want to participate in making decisions about predecessor tasks before proceeding to the next task. Yes. |
| 05:00:04.83 | Melissa Blaustein | A simple, the dovetails very well is here, section 2.7 says that WRT will come back. |
| 05:00:04.85 | Joan Cox | it. |
| 05:00:11.58 | Melissa Blaustein | at six major milestones throughout the project. So just six. So why don't we just have them come back to us? |
| 05:00:14.68 | Jill Hoffman | So, |
| 05:00:17.18 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 05:00:17.20 | Jill Hoffman | you |
| 05:00:17.22 | Melissa Blaustein | those six major milestones. |
| 05:00:17.30 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 05:00:17.37 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 05:00:17.38 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. I think that's... |
| 05:00:18.23 | Steven Woodside | I think we, at this point, are at a good place. So let's have, I'm going to go ahead and call the vote. Be clear on that direction. |
| 05:00:18.78 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. |
| 05:00:18.80 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 05:00:24.76 | Walfred Solorzano | I'll be clear on that. I'm, you |
| 05:00:26.94 | Joan Cox | you |
| 05:00:26.97 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 05:00:26.99 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 05:00:27.00 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 05:00:27.14 | Walfred Solorzano | So, |
| 05:00:27.32 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 05:00:27.34 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. Councilmember Cox. Yes. Councilmember Hoffman? Yes. Councilmember Kalman? Yes. Vice Mayor Sobieski? Yes. And Mayor Blossom? Yes. |
| 05:00:31.93 | Steven Woodside | Yes. Yes. |
| 05:00:35.26 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 05:00:37.06 | Steven Woodside | Yes. And now we got to yes. We got to a 5-0 motion carries unanimously. Thank you. And now we actually also have to vote on 5-D and take public comment on 5-D. So this is specifically the public engagement that operates in tandem with the design RFP. So if there's any additional comment from the dais, I'll just make sure we take public comment on that, unless there's something anyone wants to. Okay. So we will now open up item 5-D for public comment. |
| 05:01:06.58 | Walfred Solorzano | Peter Venomator. |
| 05:01:07.79 | Steven Woodside | Mm-hmm. |
| 05:01:18.62 | Walfred Solorzano | Peter. |
| 05:01:29.91 | Peter Van Meter | I'm having trouble getting it going. All right, just want to clarify my earlier comment. I didn't mean not have community engagement. Of course you have to have that. As I just read the scope of work, there's a lot of duplicate effort. There's a lot of information already out there, as Carlo pointed out. I don't think they need to go back and reinvent the wheel on this. That's basically what I'm saying. Those tasks can be shortened. They can be sped up. It doesn't mean you have less community engagement, although I'm not sure you need to have 14 meetings to get the kind of public input that you need to have to form the so-called vision statement. That's all I'm suggesting is tightening up the process a little bit, saving some time, saving some money, not eliminating the public input. No, that's absolutely essential. The education component is essential. Like Councilmember Cox pointed out, During the GPAC process, there's a lot of stuff learned. That stuff is on the shelf. That stuff can be used now. It doesn't have to be reinvented. That's all I was talking about. Thank you. |
| 05:02:24.50 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, Peter. Okay, so I'm gonna go ahead and make a motion to approve the RFP for the engagement strategy on item 5D. We're actually approving the contract. |
| 05:02:33.01 | Joan Cox | Second. Yes, the contract. The award of the contract. |
| 05:02:35.74 | Steven Woodside | Yes, the contract. |
| 05:02:36.62 | Jill Hoffman | to the community. |
| 05:02:38.00 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 05:02:38.97 | Joan Cox | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 05:02:39.03 | Walfred Solorzano | Yep. |
| 05:02:40.10 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 05:02:40.25 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 05:02:40.28 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 05:02:40.33 | Jill Hoffman | you |
| 05:02:40.52 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 05:02:40.84 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 05:02:41.85 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 05:02:41.97 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 05:02:42.02 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 05:02:42.04 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. Councilmember Cox? Yes. Councilmember Hoffman? Thank you. you Councilmember Kelman? Yes. Vice-Maria Sobieski? Yes. And Mary Blossom. |
| 05:02:51.45 | Steven Woodside | Yes, motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much. And again, big thank you to Katie Tho Garcia for your hard work on this item and to the Sea Level Rise Task Force and to Councilmember Kellman. We really appreciate your efforts in getting us to where we are on this critical issue. We have one more business item. I'm going to leave it up to my colleagues here if you would like to hear it or if you would like to continue it to the 19th. |
| 05:02:51.82 | Walfred Solorzano | No, she's. |
| 05:03:12.77 | Steven Woodside | Continue. Okay, there's a vote for continue. There's a vote for hear it. Thank you. You just want to hear it. All right. It's short. It's very short. Let's just hear it. We're just go for it. We're going to go fast. Let's knock it out. Item five E. |
| 05:03:21.20 | Steven Woodside | Let's just say. |
| 05:03:26.18 | Steven Woodside | Annual community presentation of military equipment use for government code sections |
| 05:03:29.86 | Joan Cox | I still have a city manager report. |
| 05:03:31.19 | Steven Woodside | 70, yeah, 7072 and city of South municipal code chapter 2.60. |
| 05:03:41.23 | Unknown | Hey, so... Mayor and Council, thank you for letting me speak tonight. I'm here to talk about Assembly Bill 481, give our annual report and presentation for 2022 and 2023. So some basic background. for this is on January 24th, 2023, City Council approved ordinance number 01-2023, adding chapter 2.60 to the Sausalito Municipal Code the establishment of a military equipment use policy for the Sausageville Police Department. Title II of the Sausalito Municipal Code was amended to comply with change in state law related to military equipment use. under Assembly Bill 481, To obtain approval from applicable governing body via the adoption of a military equipment use policy by ordinance prior to the agency funding acquiring or using military equipment. State law requires that the police department annually prepare a report on compliance with the policy and that the city council annually readopt policy by ordinance. So we'll start with the first topic here. So the equipment used in 2023, next slide please, sorry. So the summary of current, this is out of order of what I got, but Uh. |
| 05:05:00.65 | Hank Baker | Thank you. Okay. |
| 05:05:02.59 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 05:05:05.96 | Unknown | Okay, I can go over this as well. But just a brief summary of our currently owned military equipment. We have one Colt AR-15 Select Fire 5.56 rifle, one rifle suppressor, six Remington 870 less lethal shotguns, and 240 beanbag rounds. Next slide, please. So equipment used in the line of duty by Saucyotl Police in 2022-2023. None of the police department's military equipment was used in the line of duty in 2022-2023. Next slide, please. Equipment used in training by Salisado Police. In January of 2023, we used our Remington Less Lethal Shotguns and approximately 60 beanbag rounds. This was training for annual qualification for in-service officers as well as newly hired officers. Same thing in June of 2023. We used our Remington Less Lethal Shotgun and beanbag rounds. This training was for qualification for newly hired officers. The total annual cost and source of the funds. So 75 B-man grounds were used in 2022-2023 for training at a cost of $468. There were no additional costs associated with the maintenance, transportation, or storage of the military equipment. No other equipment was purchased in 2022 or 2023. And the source of the funds is the general fund. Complaints or concerns addressed to the Sausalito police. There were no emails or letters received from the community with concerns or complaints about our military equipment. |
| 05:06:46.89 | Unknown | internal audits for violation of the military equipment use policy. The Sausalito Police Department conducted one internal audit to verify the inventory of equipment and ensure there were no violations of the military equipment use policy. There were no violations discovered during this audit. |
| 05:07:04.76 | Unknown | So our intent on acquiring any additional military equipment in 2023 and 2024 is there's going to be no request for any new equipment. We are requesting the replenishment of the beanbag rounds that were used in training. Approximately 75 were used last year. We anticipate about the same for this year. and at an average approximate cost of $6.24 per round. The Sausalito Police Department is asking the council to approve $468 to replenish the training rounds for 2023-2024. No questions. |
| 05:07:39.32 | Steven Woodside | Great. Thank you so much. Any questions from the diocese? Okay, we'll open it up for public comment. |
| 05:07:48.05 | Walfred Solorzano | See you next week. |
| 05:07:49.30 | Steven Woodside | Okay, we'll close public comment. And so I think that the direction here is the receiving and filing of the report and the approval of the $468. I'm wondering, city attorney, are we to renew the ordinance as per staff recommendation at this meeting or at a later date? Is it just a filing and receiving of the report? |
| 05:08:08.62 | Sergio Rudin | Yeah, you have to receive the report Conduct a community meeting before you can read up the ordinance. So that will have to be at a subsequent meeting. |
| 05:08:16.67 | Steven Woodside | So this is the community meeting at which we are reviewing the report. |
| 05:08:19.99 | Sergio Rudin | of work. |
| 05:08:20.40 | Steven Woodside | Yes. Okay. Well, I will then just say thank you very much for this update. I truly appreciate it. Do other members of the council have comments on the military equipment report? Okay. Well, thank you very much to our police department. We appreciate you staying so late to present us this item, and we'll see you at the renewal of the ordinance. |
| 05:08:41.59 | Unknown | Great. Thank you. |
| 05:08:42.35 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Okay, we'll move on to item six on the agenda, communications. It is not 8.30 p.m. It's 11.05. This is the time on the agenda for members of the public to provide any public comment for items that are not on the agenda. If you would like to provide a public comment, fill out a speaker slip or raise your hand in the Zoom application. The city clerk will call on individuals who have raised their hand in the order they were raised. After you are called on, you will be unmuted to allow you to share your comments. Remember, public comments are each allowed a total of two minutes to speak. |
| 05:09:14.72 | Walfred Solorzano | All right. Seeing none. |
| 05:09:16.96 | Steven Woodside | Okay, council member committee reports, do we have any? |
| 05:09:20.44 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. We had our EDAC meeting, our quarterly EDAC meeting this past Monday here live in the city council chambers. Interesting thing, or one of the council members, Sobieski and I both attended, one thing that was reported on was an update on the process for the business improvement district that some of the members on the EDAC were assisting with that and so um it looks like it's going the the i think they're coming back on the 19th right the bid is presenting to the city council but as a precursor it looks like it's going to be about a 50 50 split on you know on ratio area ratio |
| 05:09:29.80 | Unknown | I'm not sure. |
| 05:09:29.97 | Warren Wells | I'm, |
| 05:10:06.73 | Ian Sobieski | which also means a 50-50 split in... funding. And there's two proposals, I think, from the – they said from the consultants, one was $88,000 per group, right? So $88,000 from the city and $88,000 from the group of landowners up to a high of $166,000, I think, was what my notes showed. So I can't – I think that's what my notes are. So anyway, just as a precursor, that's kind of the scope of what the consultants are going to come back and what you're going to see on the 19th. Any other council member committee report? Sorry. And sorry, one more thing. And one other aspect of that was that the management cost of that is about 25%. And that would be provided to whoever is appointed to be the manager of it, and they were looking at the chamber to be the manager. So that's approximately, whatever, 25% of twice of either one of those. |
| 05:11:11.09 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 05:11:11.68 | Steven Woodside | you |
| 05:11:12.22 | Joan Cox | Councilmember Cox, the MCC-MC Legislative Committee, to which Senator Michael McGuire was going to come, was postponed. the quarterly BCDC meeting is December 13. Staff has prepared a report and circulated it well in advance of the meeting. which is not surprising. And we will be reporting on the ongoing removal of anchor outs. Greg Baker is no longer out on the bay. Um, And David Lay is about to come off the bay. So. We are, and I'm hoping our chief will continue to move forward with the removal of the VEDORA. The goal is to have that accomplished by the end of the year, of this year, so we shall see. But I think we have good news to report to BCDC regarding our ongoing efforts to identify land-based housing for anchor outs in our waters. Thank you. |
| 05:12:21.81 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. Can I have a follow-up question on that? On BCDC. The permits for the seal, the Soscelio seal, the reinsertion. Sea lion. Sea lion. Gosh. Sorry. Thank you. |
| 05:12:25.20 | Joan Cox | COMMENT. |
| 05:12:30.35 | Steven Woodside | to re-inspirate. C-line. So there was an update in the latest Currents from Abbott about this. Essentially, there's a specific, I wish Katie was still here, a specific type of vendor that's required to obtain the JARPA permits that is cement friendly. It has something to do with the type of cement we can use. So the expected timeline is spring, spring 2024. |
| 05:12:52.47 | Ian Sobieski | We have to have BCDC permits. That's what this is. Okay. Okay. Got it. Yeah. |
| 05:12:55.19 | Steven Woodside | That's what this is. Okay. |
| 05:12:57.35 | Ian Sobieski | And are we handling that? Or is Katie handling that? Katie's running fine. Thank you so much. Sorry about that. You just said. |
| 05:13:01.04 | Steven Woodside | Katie's running for my time. |
| 05:13:05.97 | Steven Woodside | Did you want to? Councilmember Kelman, any committee reports? I just wanted to share that yesterday I was able to attend a report on the Marine Community Foundation's newly revised strategic plan. They have a new executive director who is fantastic. And the focus outside of the realm of the existing buck fund commitments is actually two key priority areas. The first is ending homelessness and affordable housing in Marin County and climate justice. And what was interesting about those two issue areas is that they're looking at it from a location-based lens. So they're specifically trying to provide funding and resources to the Canal, Novato, West Marin, and Marin City. And they were very interested in working with municipalities to gain grants in partnership. So it was a really productive and interesting meeting. And I think that they're moving in a really great direction and we could potentially partner with them going forward. Any other council member committee reports? Okay, great. And then now we have city manager reports and other council business, and we should take public comment on these city manager reports and other council business. So I'll open up public comment. See you then. Okay. City manager. |
| 05:14:22.50 | Chris Zapata | Thank you, Mayor and Council members of the public. I'll be brief. It's late. In your staff, in your packet, there's a staff report from myself on the status with the Bay City's Joint Powers Authority. Your action today, married with their action of the board yesterday to create a separation agreement that allows Sausalito to stay in the pool until June 30th of this 2024, with a self-insured retention amount increased to $500,000, has been executed. And so this is the most important thing we're working on right now. In your status update, there is some work and some information on progress done. I really want to tell you that it's an all-hands-on approach being led by our city attorney, who's done a great deal of research into our programs our policies our contracts etc to make sure that our risk profile can be improved he's being assisted by deborah much more in compiling all the information that's necessary to submit applications for insurance coverage as well as kathy nikitas and chad hess the good news is we've got one application and we're on three others. We're also working with the private sector through a group called Hub. So there's more to come on that. But essentially, the clock started ticking October the 5th. So we're under the gun to try to make sure that we meet the six-month window that we have for acquiring other insurance coverage since we will no longer be in the Bay City's pool after 25 years. So that's that item. If you have any questions, I'm happy to answer them in person or offline. The second thing I want to bring up is Council Member Hoffman mentioned the BID item, which has been scheduled for the 19th. That's the meeting right before Christmas. Given the importance of the ferry landing appeal, the agenda setting committee worked with city staff and were working with the local architects group to push that conversation with the public to the first meeting in January. In the meantime, the local architects group and city staff are working weekly and daily to try to come up with the right communication that we should have with all of the different stakeholders, including, you know, property owners and the Yacht Club and other folks that are invested in this decision, come up with the recommended options that, you know, the city of Calvary can weigh. And although we talked about bringing that forward on the 19th of December, given the positioning of that agenda and that date, it's not optimum. So the agenda setting committee and staff fully agrees that we should push this to the first meeting in January. But the work that has been started will continue in earnest. That concludes my report, Mayor and Council. |
| 05:17:10.63 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much, city manager. Okay, and our last item this evening is future agenda items. |
| 05:17:22.13 | Steven Woodside | I'm going to go to the next |
| 05:17:22.52 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 05:17:23.03 | Steven Woodside | I think we have a long list. |
| 05:17:23.97 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 05:17:24.03 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. Thank you. |
| 05:17:31.20 | Steven Woodside | next time. Okay, we're going to move to adjourn. Okay. Thank you. |
| 05:17:36.97 | Jill Hoffman | everybody. |
| 05:17:37.31 | Steven Woodside | I don't know. |
| 05:17:37.37 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 05:17:39.31 | Chris Zapata | It was a conversation on the minutes is what was going to be added. |
| 05:17:51.45 | Unknown | Recording stopped. |