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| 00:00:03.66 | Unknown | Recording in progress. |
| 00:00:06.59 | Ian Sobieski | All right, we'll call this special meeting of the South Salado City Council to order. City Kirk, could you kindly call the roll? |
| 00:00:12.54 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Blaustein. |
| 00:00:15.08 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 00:00:16.06 | Walfred Solorzano | Ciao. Okay, Councilmember Blasstein? |
| 00:00:18.59 | Melissa Blaustein | here. |
| 00:00:18.95 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:00:19.40 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Helman. year. by Councilmember Hoffman. Thank you. |
| 00:00:24.80 | Jill Hoffman | I'm here. |
| 00:00:25.23 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. Vice Mayor Cox. Here. And Mayor Sobieski. |
| 00:00:30.46 | Ian Sobieski | Here, Councilmember Hoffman, you said you wish to make sure to announce it. |
| 00:00:33.36 | Jill Hoffman | Yes, this is a public service announcement. Apparently my Facebook account has been hacked, so if anybody here or outside gets a friend request, it's not for me. No. We are friends, but don't accept any new requests from me. Thank you. That's why I'm late. Sorry. |
| 00:00:43.45 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
| 00:00:48.06 | Ian Sobieski | good morning everyone to this special meeting i will begin with the pledge of allegiance and then followed by city manager comments and then we'll begin with the presentation |
| 00:00:57.32 | Unknown | I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic, |
| 00:01:03.02 | Ian Sobieski | experience |
| 00:01:03.68 | Unknown | you |
| 00:01:03.97 | Ian Sobieski | One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. To set the stage, I'll introduce the city manager, and then we will take public comment after the city manager sets the stage, and then we will move on with the day. City manager Sabada. |
| 00:01:22.89 | Chris Zapata | Thank you, Mayor. Can everybody hear me? My mic is on. Thank you. I'd like to begin by saying that we live in an ever-changing world, and there's always things that we have to do. I'm- Is it clear now? I'm talking as loud as I can. Better? |
| 00:01:46.28 | Chris Zapata | Yeah. So I'll speak louder, Mayor. I was saying we live in an ever-changing environment, and as such, we have to be an agile organization to adapt to those changes, and cities before us and cities after us will do what we call strategy talk, strategy sessions. The Saucyla City Council in 2020 adopted a document called the Saucyla Strategic Plan, which included mission, values, goals, vision, and strategies. It wasn't intended to be a static document. It was intended to be a document that was fluid. And so in that fluid environment, what happened in 21-22, we had another strategy session in which there was much discussion about going back to the basics, and that would be finances, infrastructure, as well as our personnel. Last year, we had another strategic planning discussion about revenue, and that was really quite the staff exercise. Wasn't a whole lot of room for the council to participate as much as they would like to. So this year, I believe it's time for the city council to participate as normal, but given our financial issues and our need to reconvene our strategies after COVID, the last two years were extremely necessary. So thank you for indulging me and the staff in letting us lead most of the conversations those days. Today is your day, and it's going to be led by our facilitator, Amy Haworth, who is from the Municipal Resources Group. She is a facilitator that has done work for city councils in Napa and Larkspur and other places, and part of her qualifications include being an elected official for a while. One time mayor of the city of Manhattan Beach, took a hiatus, now is on the city council of Manhattan Beach, but she is also a facilitator that we have looked forward to her guidance, and she's going to talk about how the day is going to unfold, and she's actually going to be the one to conduct the meeting once the public comment sections are done and some of the council conversations go will be under her leadership and she'll talk about those ground rules so samara i believe you wanted to give the public a chance to comment at this point thank you |
| 00:04:05.22 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you very much, city manager. If you're gonna make a public comment, could you raise your hand? We just wanna sort out the timing. So for public comments. So let's do two minutes a person please for public comment and the floor is open. Do they do the slips city clerk or- |
| 00:04:20.75 | Walfred Solorzano | We'll start with Babette McDougall. She gave me a slip. So for anybody that wants to provide public comment, we'll make the process easier. There's speaker slips over at the table by the television. You can fill it out and then give it back to us. Thank you. And our timer, it's not working, but I have one right here, so we'll put the camera on this little timer right here. Whenever you're ready, Ms. McDougal. |
| 00:04:49.32 | Ian Sobieski | Is the microphone on? One moment, Ms. McDougal. We want to make sure your microphone is on. |
| 00:04:56.25 | Babette McDougall | How does that sound? |
| 00:04:57.15 | Ian Sobieski | much better. Good morning. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:04:59.80 | Babette McDougall | Yeah. |
| 00:04:59.81 | Ian Sobieski | Good morning. So the floor is yours. Please, can you restore two minutes to the clock, please, for Ms. McDougal? |
| 00:04:59.85 | Babette McDougall | I'm sorry. Good morning. |
| 00:05:06.82 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. So- |
| 00:05:07.90 | Babette McDougall | So, Babette McDougall, Gerard Avenue, Sausalito. I'm here for two reasons this morning. First of all, I'd like to applaud... |
| 00:05:08.25 | Unknown | . |
| 00:05:15.19 | Babette McDougall | this council for having the wisdom to put public comment at the start of the agenda and i came just for that And number two, within the context of today's agenda. I'd like to ask you to consider strongly whether you consider this as an opportunity, because I certainly do, to reinstate full citizen involvement in this council chamber alone. Start here. This is not the representative government that the citizens of Sausalito had in mind. when they first framed the concept of a five member body. However, if you would allow citizen engagement, a real debate, a real democracy, where we jointly debate and we can all put the timer on ourselves like we did, back in the day prior to COVID, where we debate openly exchange ideas and reach consensus, which brings us to a resolution. I think you're going to find you'll be pleasantly surprised. It's really not a threat. It's actually an opportunity. Thank you. And by the way, I grew up in Manhattan Beach. |
| 00:06:31.46 | Sharna Brockett | Thank you so much. I first want to applaud you for your vote for the approval of the ferry landing plan. I mean, after seven years, I'm just super excited. And I know there's a ton of people in this town who are excited. So thank you for making a decision. We have a path forward. I'm super excited about that. Um, also, I just want to say like, I've, to be honest, I've just started paying attention and looking under the hood a little and, and thank you so much for all the hard work you do. I mean, I know these, these, you spend countless hours up here and meeting and, um, I'm so appreciative. Um, I do want to say that it seems like we spend a really, a lot of time from what I'm telling from what I'm seeing and I'm new. on things that actually, you know, we're worried about our budget. We're worried about money, but. You know, we spent seven years on that Ferry landside plan and we had free money to do it. And so when we spend a ton of time, I know it's your time, it's our time, it's staff time. So that's just a lot of time and wasted money. you know, for something that was pretty much like a parking lot redesign. It was a very small project for most towns. So I just want to point that out. For me, it seems kind of interesting. The second thing is I know the SCA rent thing is coming up. So I'm beginning to see that. We're going to spend a ton of time on that. You know, and the money that they would, I mean, I know they signed an agreement and Maybe they shouldn't have. Um, But we're probably gonna spend a ton of time on that. And what does that contribute? Probably less than 1% to the budget. So we're gonna waste all this time, just fix it. Make them pay a thousand dollars more and then have another plan for the future. They're an adolescent. They're growing. You don't starve a teenager, you know. Um, There's a way to fix it. And let's just stop getting in our own way and spending tons of time on the things that don't matter. Focus on the pensions, the infrastructure. Those are the big pockets of money that we should be focusing our time and energy on, in my opinion. Thank you so much. |
| 00:08:29.89 | Walfred Solorzano | Kieran Culligan. |
| 00:08:36.12 | Kieran Culligan | Hi there. Good morning. Good to see you again. Hasn't been long. Um, I'm here because I'm just really excited about what you all can work on today. I was inspired by Tuesday and seeing the Ferry Lansai, which is you read through that strategic goal as the second item on the plan, right? You made huge progress against it. And I don't want to dwell on the things that we haven't gotten to. I want to dwell on the things that you have accomplished and how we can do more of that. Um, and I think a big part of it is like, how do we really think about the benefits in addition to just thinking about the costs and the downsides, right? Like if the budget is such a big deal, why do we have donuts today? Well, I'll tell you why we have donuts today because The cost of that is very minor compared to all the benefits we get of creating community, breaking bread together. And it sounds silly, but it extends to so many elements of what we could be doing here in Sausalito. We have a marine ship that we know we haven't been investing in and could be doing so much. The blue economy can even extend beyond the marine ship and could be a huge economic generator. Our downtown is dilapidated. We made a step towards improving that on Tuesday, but there's way more that can be then there. And all three of those things can have a huge boost to the financial, economic vitality of the town and the enjoyment of the residents and everyone else. So, Let's see that sort of optimism. It means that we can't dwell as long on all of these projects. Like we need to get to more things, you know, love director McGowan, right? He hasn't been able him and his staff have been so consumed. They haven't been able to seek more grant monies to improve our 1960s, 1970s infrastructure. So let's, let's empower those that we need to empower. Let's get more done. And I'm excited to see all of, to work with all of you to do that. Thanks. |
| 00:10:26.78 | Walfred Solorzano | Vicky Nichols. |
| 00:10:34.58 | Vicki Nichols | Good morning, Mayor Sobieski and Council. I would like to just briefly speak about my confusion about what happened the other night with the first reading of that ordinance and vehemently I would oppose the city properties being taken out of Planning Commission review. I think you just heard from another constituent that there's a movement about the SCA building that has never been inventoried. We know that there's possibly some significance, and we're being told in these emails about them doing maintenance and remodeling. So I want to bring that up and just stress that... on a higher level without some of these tools that we have available to us for historic preservation the council's either interested in it or they're not, but there hasn't been any funding generated or any interest. So I'm going to be back up here when you talk about your priorities. So I'd like to understand about what that ordinance did and if that's included, how to come and talk to the council and bring other constituents back to let you know their opinion. Thank you. |
| 00:11:50.08 | Walfred Solorzano | All right, anybody else in the house? All right, so we'll go on to Zoom, Scott Thornburg. |
| 00:12:02.21 | Scott Thornburg | All right. Good morning, everyone. you I don't know if you can see me, I can't see you, but hello and good morning. I just wanted to say thank you so much again for all of your dedication and listening to the community. I thought Tuesday night's council meeting was exceptional. I had so many neighbors that were there that, you know, it was the first time they've ever come to a city council meeting. And I love that we're able to bring community together around key issues. So thank you for your hard work that night. As you go into the day today, there are a couple of things that are top of mind for me. We've had on the agenda a couple of times now trying to get our EDAC new members appointed. I know that's coming. So thank you for keeping that on the agenda. Hopefully we can get that resolved soon. We have some very interested volunteers that want to contribute to the city. And so this is a great way for them to do that. So I hope we'll be able to get that done soon. We are also as a committee looking to Um, prioritize our work and our agendas based on yours. And so as an outcome of today, I'm hoping to get some direction that we can take back to that group. Some things that are top of mind for us that we've been working on. And we hope that we'll also be on your discussion today are things like Blue Economy and the Business Improvement District. Also, the business development downtown. I mentioned this earlier in the week. I do believe that the ferry landing and the PBID will contribute toward helping us to fill some of those vacancies. I think the city may also want to consider hiring a consultant, someone that can partner with, Brandon Phipps and the CDD team. to help fill those vacancies. They've made a lot of progress this year. Volunteers like Monica Finnegan in particular who doesn't like praise, but I'm giving it to her anyways, have made a lot of progress. So I would encourage you to consider that as a part of your agenda today of how do we fill those spaces downtown? Thank you. |
| 00:14:06.82 | Walfred Solorzano | All right, next speaker on Zoom, Adrienne Brinton. |
| 00:14:14.14 | Adrian Brinton | Good morning, and thanks for taking my comment. Like the other speakers, just wanted to say thank you for all of your work. I see how much work goes into running this city, and definitely appreciate how much time and dedication you all spend down here on a Saturday morning at 830. Didn't realize the donuts were there. I might have walked down to join you in person, but maybe next time. I did want to comment on the future agenda items. I saw that the employee parking was a future agenda item, and I just encourage you to really expand on that in the parking. Parking is such an important source of revenue. It's something that you know, funds the general fund. There's a lot of opportunity in parking to redo the technology to bring in more optimization, restripe the parking lots. You know, we put the investment in the city into hiring Wayne to manage the parking. You know, let's support him and really kind of build out our parking. We talk about it so much. You know, we really need to kind of fix it. We support the businesses, we support the city finances. So yeah, I would love to see that kind of fleshed out a little bit more in the priorities for the city. Thank you. |
| 00:15:26.52 | Walfred Solorzano | and there is no further public comment. |
| 00:15:29.29 | Ian Sobieski | Great. So we'll close public comment. The next opportunity for public comment will be, according to our agenda, at the end of the day. We are going until 1230, but we will end and Ms. Haworth maybe will tell us exactly about when that will be. But I would like now to introduce her, the city council member from Manhattan Beach and former resident of these parts, Ms. Amy Haworth. Welcome to Sausalito. |
| 00:16:00.86 | Amy Haworth | I'm sorry that I have my back to you all. Um, and then can you hear me? All right. Excellent. Well, hello. Good morning, everybody. Good morning to the public. I'm really happy to be here and I'm excited to see so many members of the public. That's pretty extraordinary and not a surprise because I spoke to all of your council members before today. And they talked with pride about the level of community engagement in Sausalito and the history of that. So it's not a surprise. So I just, I want to give, especially for the members of the public, just a quick intro into who I am and how I prepared for today and what I think might happen today. As they said, Amy Haworth, I live in Manhattan Beach. I've been elected five times now in Manhattan Beach, so I served two terms or eight years on our school board. then eight years on our city council, We have mandatory term limits at city council. You have to sit out after your second term. And I ran again. And so now it's about my 18th year of public service. So. It was lovely for you to thank them all for what they do because, trust me, they work really hard. I can tell you that. And so how I prepared for today is I worked extensively with the city manager. And I had conversations with each council member to kind of find out what they value, what they want to prioritize, what they wanted for today. And I don't really need to tell you this, but you have an extraordinary city council. that I think really reflects a community. I mean, Sausalito is a place I don't know how many of you grew up here. But it attracts people who want to, who can and want to live in a place like this. And it is they reflect, I think, their community very well. I also want to say I was very appreciative of the doughnuts and You know, sugar helps me a lot. I also, when you guys were doing roll call, it was really hard for me because I was listening for my name. Because, right, I was present, Didn't happen. because I'm not on this council. So I will do my best to ask you guys the questions. This is your community, your meeting, I'm not here to tell you what I think you should do. with the Caledonia business parking plan or anything. This is about what you guys wanna do. All right, so. Um, You know, you have a lot of supporting documents and there's more that you know. Um, But what I think the primary purpose of today is for the council members to discuss the items of priority for you. and to discuss back and forth. I, I have devised a process which could work, May not. And guess what? I'm really flexible and you guys are really smart. So we're going to go on this journey together to try to come up with something that will enable your staff to know where to focus, to focus their resources, which includes their time. |
| 00:18:59.09 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
| 00:18:59.19 | Unknown | And I... |
| 00:18:59.57 | Scott Thornburg | Bye. |
| 00:19:14.43 | Amy Haworth | Right. Because What I like to say for a council member is, yeah, it's tons of fun to sit at the dais. But what you really care about is what you get done for your community. And it is hard to get things done. When... you keep coming up with new ideas, right? Or you keep, oh, let's do this this way. Let's, you know what? We're going to focus, you guys are the what. What can we do? What do we want to do? And we're gonna try to narrow that focus a little, which can be painful. Nobody wants to say they love this child better than that child. Okay. We're not going to. cast out any children. We're going to keep them on the list, okay? Unless everybody says, why is that on there? But- We want to kind of narrow it down a lot. So we are gonna start Um, We're going to talk about what went well last year. A short exercise on this is we're not breaking into small groups yet. We're not doing any kind of stuff like that. I'm not doing an icebreaker. We're not passing around an orange or whatever else people do. Decorate cupcakes, I heard at one place. Okay. Um, But we're going to start in that so that you can see what has gone well. And it seems like the ferry landing decision the other night is something that might have gone well, but I'll let you guys decide. We are gonna talk a little bit about the strengths, the weaknesses, the opportunities, the threats, or SWOT. But again, just to give a snapshot in time, that's not some document that we're gonna adhere to, but we wanna make sure that people are thinking about You know, things are probably different than they were a year ago. And I laugh because I did one of these in February of 2020. which was a month before the world shut down. So nobody had on their bingo or SWAT card pandemic, right? that's something else that will come up, you know, really quickly. So, So my objective is to try to help you guys narrow down Now keep in mind, You have not looked, or not looked, but you haven't worked on your budget. You haven't had, I assume you're going to have a budget workshop or two. that's also gonna impact everything. So you wanna be able to align whatever you come out with with the budget So some things may fall out there too, right? And, but the goal is to start the work today at a future council meeting to approve sort of this idea Adopt the budget, right? And that's what's going to drive it. We mentioned strategic plan. I like to call this, we're not doing a strategic plan today. I mean, that's hours and hours and weeks and months of, really, really difficult. you know. broad thinking and visioning And you don't have to call it this, but I call it a work plan. I want to know what you guys are going to have staff focus on. And staff wants to know that. Now it can be sort of broad, right? But Ironically, my council is doing our meeting on Tuesday night. So this is good practice for me. But you know, you want to focus on what can, what are they going to do? so that if you do want to add something in a month or two, you understand, well, if we do that, then they can't do this. So it's a little less high level than a strategic plan, but we will talk about. the strategic plan and all of that. Any questions? |
| 00:22:44.96 | Unknown | you |
| 00:22:54.75 | Amy Haworth | That's okay. That's a good, |
| 00:22:56.66 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 00:22:56.98 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 00:23:01.03 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:23:06.48 | Janelle Kellman | One thing we don't get to do at our council meetings is really give our perspective as council members generally as to... why we're here. And so I wanted to offer up to my colleagues that maybe we could each put the clock on two minutes |
| 00:23:14.35 | Amy Haworth | And, Bye. |
| 00:23:14.93 | Unknown | and a while. |
| 00:23:15.47 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 00:23:19.91 | Janelle Kellman | time ourselves and share with the community why we're here. I love that. And what our perspective really is, because I think there's a, you know, Sean, I take your comments so well around, you know, you guys, why are you spending time on these other things? And I think it would be good for us to share kind of our perspective, and maybe it'll help us all reach a better conclusion today if that |
| 00:23:40.92 | Amy Haworth | I appreciate that suggestion. give a few ground rules, but if anybody's really opposed to that, let me know. If we time it to two minutes each, which does go in What's that? |
| 00:23:56.11 | Ian Sobieski | We can do that, yes. we can, |
| 00:23:59.86 | Amy Haworth | Well, okay, which that leads into my main point. about ground rules. I humbly ask the mayor, Um, if, to if you, well, I ask all of you, are you, if you're comfortable when, if we're having a discussion, And it's going on, I mean, it's a good discussion, but if it's going on and we can't, I would like to say, I think we need to wrap up We can create a parking lot of issues. to let me facilitate. Um, Do people... I mean, that's why I came down |
| 00:24:32.34 | Ian Sobieski | I think you have consensus on that. Okay. Okay. |
| 00:24:34.08 | Amy Haworth | Well, how about Mayor, do I have consensus? |
| 00:24:36.56 | Ian Sobieski | do for me. |
| 00:24:36.81 | Amy Haworth | me vice mayor |
| 00:24:38.03 | Joan Cox | Absolutely. |
| 00:24:40.12 | Amy Haworth | Councilmember Blalstein? Yes. Yes, please. Councilmember Kelman and Councilmember Hoffman? All right. |
| 00:24:41.81 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 00:24:41.84 | Joan Cox | THE FAMILY. |
| 00:24:45.64 | Amy Haworth | or in Dumerable. So my other ground rule, and I was going to mention Ted Lasso, Um, but he's a Kansas city chiefs fan. Jason. Okay, all right. I didn't, okay, all right. So there, I mentioned him. Anyway, one of my favorite episodes is when he talks about being curious. not judgmental. And so I ask everybody to... You know, your council colleague may have said something incredibly stupid. You guys would never say anything stupid, but they may have said something that you just really disagree with. Let's try it. We're not going to react to what everybody says. This is a brainstorming, an open session. This is okay. So everybody be curious. Okay. So why don't we do that, Councilmember Kalman? Why don't We, and who's running the timer? Do I, okay, good. I don't have to. Okay. So why don't we start? So this is your why, why are you on council? Not why did you run? I mean, I kind of understand that, but why are you here? So we'll start with the mayor and go around that way. How's that? |
| 00:25:43.00 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you very much. Personally, I don't feel like I have any of the answers and never have. I just have my life experience, which is all of our lives experiences are unique. And I initially, as a member, as a resident, got involved in the Economic Development Advisory Committee and to my surprise, discovered that some of my perspective seemed to be helpful. And so my idea for running for city council and being here was to add my life experience and perspective to the mix of five or other people and hope that and trust that the outcome from that mixture would be better. So that was my personal motivation. and then at a high level for, since I still have a minute left, at a high level for the city, I'm really motivated by not leaving opportunities to spoil. I hate seeing food waste on the table. I hate seeing lose-lose outcomes. I often think in my life experience, because I work with startups and multiple parties that often have to negotiate deals, I'm often confronted with a situation where there's situations seem to be at loggerheads and there's no path forward. And my life experiences there often is a path forward. And over and over again, I found found that by sifting by engaging my pink staying open-minded by being curious and not judgmental by keeping goodwill one can find a path for that makes more people feel satisfied if not entirely happy and that that you have fewer lose lose outcomes so those drive me crazy and win-wins make me happy |
| 00:26:27.12 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 00:26:30.84 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:26:30.89 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:26:31.14 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:27:29.49 | Amy Haworth | Okay, so you're here to win. |
| 00:27:31.05 | Joan Cox | Bye. |
| 00:27:31.06 | Amy Haworth | Okay. |
| 00:27:33.24 | Joan Cox | Uh, I'm here because I love Sausalito. you I moved here in 1985, and I am passionate about maintaining the things that are great about Sausalito and fixing the things that are not great about Sausalito. I am a municipal lawyer that advises cities and counties and special districts throughout California. And so I feel privileged to bring to fore here some of the things I learn in my job. I'm also a mediator who assists Parties who are on polar opposites from one another find common ground. And I welcome the. opportunity. to try to do that. here in Sausalito. One of our greatest assets is our community residential involvement. One of our greatest challenges and assets is the diversity of opinion amongst our residents. |
| 00:28:27.46 | Unknown | Easy. Thank you. |
| 00:28:28.03 | Joan Cox | Thank you. and our businesses. And so to welcome, as you said, be curious, not judgmental, is really an ideal opportunity for us to take advantage of the talent that is available to us. And so I am privileged to participate in that. |
| 00:28:51.51 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. It's a great point about there's a lot of engagement and, you know, but maybe even the public, well, obviously doesn't always agree. Right. So that's, that is challenging. Appreciate that. Councilmember Lowstein, former mayor. |
| 00:29:02.98 | Melissa Blaustein | This is a great idea, Councilmember Kelman, so thank you for this. I'm here because I really believe in the power of our community and the power of local government. I think a lot of us share a feeling that what's happening here, nationally and internationally is rather scary. And I've seen through my work in the community and being able to serve all of you and work alongside such an excellent council of really incredibly talented individuals and get to know our amazing residents, what is possible with engagement and when people show up. And I think our meeting on Tuesday is a great example of that and how much all of you can show up and change sentiment and move tides. And I'm really inspired by that every day and being a part of such an incredible community that can show up and make change. I think that at the local level, you can determine what your streets look like, how your schools are run, where you walk every day, where your dollars are directly spent, how your city hall looks and works and what kind of culture you want to have. And it's a unique opportunity to do that. And I think local government is where it all happens. So I'm really honored to be able to be here and work alongside all of you. And at a higher level, as Ian said, I am very aware of some of the biggest challenges of the next few generations that we all face, whether that's climate change, economic insecurity. disaster preparedness, financial stability for our community, transparency. So I'm hopeful that we'll be able to work together on all of those issues because I know we all love Sausalito very much. |
| 00:30:28.12 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. Councilmember Kalman. |
| 00:30:30.12 | Janelle Kellman | Thanks everybody. Hi everyone. Good morning. So last night I had the opportunity, thanks to Abbott, to do a climate talk in the library. 80 people showed up to share this and I'll say what I think everyone feels. I have a deep, deep love for Sausalito. I mean, I call this my campus. I just absolutely love this community and this, this, uh, actual environment of where we are. Uh, I've lived here since 2001. Um, when I first moved to town, I was a young land use attorney and I, randomly joined this thing called the Planning Commission. I really had no idea what it was, to be honest. And I ended up serving 10 years. And the reason I ran for city council was because I got involved with the general plan update. And we had no long-term planning around sustainability, around climate change, around resilience. Everything we were doing was in a silo. And I had seen that through my 10 years on the Planning Commission. We weren't talking to one another. And I couldn't believe we didn't have this opportunity to really plan for for ourselves in a long term fashion that took into account climate change. And so I realized as I dug in, as I was running for council, that Sausalito was a duck. We looked great on top. Man, we were working so hard underwater. We have $18 million worth of deferred sewer maintenance. We have done very little work on our MLK properties. We have pension obligations. I'm looking at chat. We have long-term debt on our COPs. We have general obligation bonds that our residents pay. We have a lot of costs that we have not accounted for. And so when I think about it, and I told people this last night, the reason I voted for the ferry on Tuesday was because thanks to the hard work of all the volunteers, that became not just a beautification project, but a resilience project. And that's what I think we need, and that's the lens I want to bring to today, because I think that makes us as a community, able to last into a lifetime. So, um, lifelong team sport athlete. I love consensus. I love hearing other people and trying to find that middle ground. Last thing I'll say is everybody here has now been the mayor of Sausalito. Um, so congrats to us, but it's a unique perspective. |
| 00:32:31.52 | Amy Haworth | Great, thank you. Wow. Boom. She had practice. |
| 00:32:37.01 | Jill Hoffman | She suggested it, so I'm assuming that she was. Yeah, exactly. |
| 00:32:38.83 | Amy Haworth | Yeah, exactly right. 100%, you know. |
| 00:32:43.35 | Jill Hoffman | Just saying. So, So my why. So my why is pretty simple. My why is I look at everything that comes before the city council through the lens of what's best for the entire community. I think that's what our job is here up in the city council. We all have special groups or special projects that we like to assist. But my lens is does that warrant elevation up to the city council level Does that warrant the very expensive time of council time, the very expensive time of staff time to work on that project? And so that's constantly the lens that I look through, and that's always my evaluation on staff time. and priority and whether or not we're gonna spend money on that, the people's money on that, right? Because we're not spending the government's money. We're spending tax dollars at people in Sausalito pay we're spending sales tax, we're spending business license tax money. So you better have a very good reason, I think, if you want to put something on the agenda, that that's something that is going to assist everybody in Sausalito. I don't think we've been as disciplined about that in the past couple of years as we should have been. We need to set priorities. If something doesn't meet that objective All right. priority criteria. then it might be a great project for a community group to work on, such as Sauce Leo Beautiful or some other group, but does that warrant our very expensive staff time? Does that warrant our very expensive city council time? So that's mainly my, and that's where I tell everybody who wants to meet with me, it's not always what they want to hear because they're meeting with me because they have a special project they want approved. But that's the lens that I look at. And I think we need to strictly adhere to that. And that's our responsibility as a city council, as well as adhering strictly to whatever rules that we're subject to under the ethical rules and the Brown Act rules. That's our, that's our, contract with the community. That's why we took our oath to comply with the Constitution of California and also the rules that are set down for this governing body. So that that's my North star that I always look at is not always popular, but that's I believe that's why we're here. |
| 00:34:45.39 | Amy Haworth | Great, thank you. Look at your, you were prepared. Come on, she told you. No, that was great. That was great. You know, it struck me that, and something that I was going to talk about a little later, but And you all mentioned the opportunity and also the challenge of the public engagement. And, you know, and and The fact is you guys have a role. And not just you in a room, all of you, all of you. You have to advocate for your project, right? You have, it is your right and duty to oblig, to advocate. Advocate looks, advocation looks different than governance. And that's where it's, can be really challenging for all of you up there. you know, when you, because it's like, I know that if 10 people come to our meeting talking about a new dog park, Some of my colleagues will feel, oh, well, everybody wants this. We got it. This is really important. We got to do this now. And it may be important. I love what you said. It could be really important or a really great project, but maybe it doesn't fit into everything else. governing what you guys do is challenging, right? Because, and it may even appeal to something that you care about deeply. But That's the challenge. So that's kind of exactly how I want us to think about it today. And I have to laugh because I brought my little magnifying glass because, and I have a slide you're gonna see that says, what's your lens? A couple of you said it. That's awesome. All right. So we talked about the ground rules. Let's go into, and, and, oh, the agenda. Again, it's, it's, I don't want to say loose because we will stick to a lot of things, but I want to, we're going to talk about the wins. We're going to talk about the strengths, the weaknesses, opportunities, and threats. I have planned a break, but it also depends on all of you. If you guys are exhausted in five minutes, stand up. I know you guys are troopers, but let's be flexible on that. And if you have to run out, run out. But then I do want to do a review of the strategic plan goals. just to see if there's anything on there that really doesn't ring true for for the council and When I was looking at the goals, well, I'll talk about it then. And then we have to talk about your future agenda items that I've been spending some time with. but also through those two agenda items, if you will, is that there's a lot of time, that's the time to have these discussions, right? Maybe it's not about per se a goal that's already on there, but maybe it's how you envision it now. So I want the most important thing is for you guys to have dialogue. Again, that's and if it changes, if you want to change a goal, if you want to change, if you want to take something off future agenda or elevate it, that's what we're here to do. and nothing is set in stone. And then again, public comments, and then I'll wrap it up. So with that, With that. Why don't we do what you guys think were the wins? |
| 00:37:40.25 | Ian Sobieski | Just a question for you. Since you laid out our agenda, just for the benefit of people that might be watching and in the audience, when about do you anticipate future public comments in terms of the time? Probably. |
| 00:37:52.45 | Amy Haworth | Probably around 1210, because we have a hard stop for Summit 1230. So I want that to be at the end. I plan 15 minutes for that. |
| 00:38:02.63 | Ian Sobieski | Just so that way people have some, I appreciate that. If they wanted to make a public comment or leave the room and come back to a public |
| 00:38:04.33 | Amy Haworth | I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I'm going to go get a marker and I'm going to attempt to write on this because I want to talk about our wins. So |
| 00:38:15.99 | Unknown | Let's do that. you Um, All right, so why don't we go around. And... |
| 00:38:24.03 | Amy Haworth | you |
| 00:38:24.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:38:24.08 | Amy Haworth | I think the community Like everybody wins. Like I have like no long explanation. |
| 00:38:28.36 | Unknown | win. Thank you. |
| 00:38:31.96 | Amy Haworth | You know, we celebrated this. We're doing Super Sunday. Whatever it is. |
| 00:38:32.11 | Unknown | your visa. |
| 00:38:36.85 | Amy Haworth | instead of guests. |
| 00:38:38.18 | Melissa Blaustein | THE END OF THE |
| 00:38:39.14 | Amy Haworth | And I'm going to write it down on the red and black. Because that's been challenging to be on that. Okay. All right, and also now I will ask city manager, |
| 00:38:48.16 | Unknown | And also... |
| 00:38:52.70 | Amy Haworth | one. Thank you. |
| 00:38:56.09 | Ian Sobieski | And we last year settled our labor agreements with our police union and with our SEIU union. And we had a balanced budget. |
| 00:39:16.32 | Joan Cox | I have like 20 wins, but okay. So we were the first city. We'll go around. Yeah. Yeah. |
| 00:39:19.11 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:39:19.16 | Melissa Blaustein | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:39:19.19 | Linda Fodge | Thank you. |
| 00:39:19.22 | Melissa Blaustein | I love it. |
| 00:39:28.12 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:39:28.76 | Joan Cox | No, they're all... We were the first city in Marin to pat and the only city in Marin to timely adopt a housing element. |
| 00:39:40.77 | Joan Cox | We had a clean audit. |
| 00:39:48.01 | Unknown | All right. Thank you. |
| 00:39:51.37 | Melissa Blaustein | We hired a city attorney and we retained an excellent city manager. |
| 00:39:58.17 | Linda Fodge | the next morning. And I'm going to go to the next slide. Okay. |
| 00:40:04.16 | Janelle Kellman | I got to say it guys, a million dollars so we can hire a resilience manager and do a sea level rise vulnerability assessment. |
| 00:40:14.35 | Janelle Kellman | And then I'm going to make this into one. Kevin, Brandon, Kathy, Chad, Chris. |
| 00:40:22.03 | Vicki Nichols | Haiti. |
| 00:40:22.40 | Janelle Kellman | you Katie. |
| 00:40:27.18 | Janelle Kellman | Don't miss anybody. I say Kevin. I say Kathy. Abbott. Geez, sorry. Abby's right there. Sorry. Yeah, 100%. |
| 00:40:33.10 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
| 00:40:33.20 | Melissa Blaustein | So- |
| 00:40:33.41 | Linda Fodge | All right. |
| 00:40:33.44 | Melissa Blaustein | Right. |
| 00:40:33.46 | Linda Fodge | Thank you. |
| 00:40:33.56 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 00:40:36.16 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Oh, I'm sorry, too. Oh, my goodness. Okay. Right here. I'm sorry. We're doing wins just this past year? Yeah. |
| 00:40:40.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:40:43.41 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:40:44.11 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:40:44.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:40:45.61 | Jill Hoffman | This is Kat here, but if you want to. |
| 00:40:46.97 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 00:40:47.50 | Jill Hoffman | Can you think back? |
| 00:40:47.50 | Unknown | Can you think back? |
| 00:40:48.19 | Amy Haworth | Right. Thank you. |
| 00:40:49.69 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:40:50.01 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:40:52.66 | Jill Hoffman | Well, a lot of them. |
| 00:40:54.43 | Unknown | All I've been to you. Thank you. |
| 00:40:57.54 | Unknown | Get your mic off. |
| 00:40:57.61 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:41:01.45 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, I would agree. from the standpoint of the health of, whatever, our efforts. I would agree that the Passing our housing, certifying our housing, that was a huge... huge team effort and we got it across the line, you know, so. That was probably the biggest win of this year. There were, yeah. |
| 00:41:26.38 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:41:26.41 | Amy Haworth | I mean, I can't tell you. that board might elect because our city almost went into huge laws |
| 00:41:38.31 | Ian Sobieski | I think we should give the vice mayor the chance to read off the rest of our list and just keep going around until. |
| 00:41:43.54 | Joan Cox | Yeah. And. |
| 00:41:45.28 | Ian Sobieski | Let's go around it. |
| 00:41:46.85 | Joan Cox | I can say two more. No. All right. Come on, Ian. All right. Well, I'm going to do one of Ian's, which was we negotiated an interest-bearing account at Bank of Marin. So instead of our money just sitting there, we now earn 4%. |
| 00:41:48.74 | Ian Sobieski | I don't. |
| 00:41:48.94 | Babette McDougall | Thank you. |
| 00:41:49.88 | Ian Sobieski | I'm not in. |
| 00:41:51.05 | Babette McDougall | Thank you. |
| 00:42:01.85 | Ian Sobieski | It depends, blended at four and a half, but some accounts are at five. It's a laddered bond portfolio and an interest bearing account, so. |
| 00:42:10.94 | Joan Cox | And that was Ian's accomplishment. And the city manager. I know. We appointed a new police chief and promoted a bunch of staff, and we literally are having a renaissance at our police department. |
| 00:42:22.89 | Linda Fodge | Thank you. |
| 00:42:22.91 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 00:42:23.84 | Linda Fodge | Yeah. Thank you. |
| 00:42:25.03 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:42:25.05 | Linda Fodge | you |
| 00:42:25.20 | Unknown | that too. |
| 00:42:25.66 | Linda Fodge | Thank you. |
| 00:42:26.62 | Melissa Blaustein | we passed and then started approving, receiving funds for measure L, which was a big win fiscally for the city. Um, It's a sales tax increase. |
| 00:42:37.05 | Ian Sobieski | $24 million over eight years for infrastructure. |
| 00:42:41.18 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. Um, and, uh, we hosted our toast to Sausalito event that our whole community really loved. |
| 00:42:53.47 | Janelle Kellman | We had our first ever Sausalito Pride celebration and painted the crosswalks. |
| 00:43:00.08 | Unknown | Okay. Thank you. |
| 00:43:04.39 | Janelle Kellman | It's first ever Sausalito Pride. And we also, I think as a council, agreed we need to do a deep dive on the value of our city-owned property and our leases and try to start to establish, using Cushman Wakefield, a better process for understanding our vacancies and what the market rate is. Just property management would probably be more succinct. |
| 00:43:26.31 | Scott Thornburg | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:43:37.49 | Unknown | No, that was better. I still don't accept that at all. |
| 00:43:40.85 | Joan Cox | We contributed a million dollars to our pension debt at the end of last year. We removed the vedora, which had been littering our waterfront for over 20 years. It's a huge 98-ton concrete boat from our waterfront. |
| 00:44:06.94 | Melissa Blaustein | We launched our first ever citywide DEI program with the help of Kathy Nikitas. |
| 00:44:06.98 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 00:44:07.26 | Linda Fodge | to the community. |
| 00:44:12.61 | Melissa Blaustein | which was great. And what else do I have on here? Thank you. And we successfully approved an RFP for smart cities, energy updates in our community. Mm-hmm. |
| 00:44:32.36 | Janelle Kellman | our eelgrass is back and thriving, which means... or eelgrass. which means our herring are running, which is a big part of our community and who we are and our identity. I think we also, as a city council, all got on the same page about our long-term debt and the disarray of our finances in the past. And thanks to Chad, we had a clean audit. |
| 00:44:53.01 | Ian Sobieski | and then, |
| 00:44:57.67 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah, and just to emphasize that, we have a new finance entire department. There's no one, it's all new with a new director of finance who's, we use the root Cracker Jack, so it's Cracker Jack. And in terms of quality of life, Jazz by the Bay used to end on the Friday before Labor Day, and now it goes well into September. |
| 00:45:24.57 | Joan Cox | We took the first steps toward adoption of a bid for our downtown. And we, hand in hand with that, are collaborating much more closely with our Chamber of Commerce and our business community. |
| 00:45:39.47 | Unknown | And he says it. |
| 00:45:41.36 | Joan Cox | Thank you. With the chamber and with the business community, yes. |
| 00:45:48.90 | Melissa Blaustein | We hosted our first Sausalito Marin City Wellness Day, and we made use of our Parks and Rec's facilities free of charge for Marin City nonprofits. |
| 00:46:01.84 | Janelle Kellman | We, I think, finally, with the community, understood the dilapidated status of our roads. and publicly aired that in collaboration with the community to help us identify where that should sit in our capital employment program. And it hasn't happened yet, but it is pending. We fully understand the need for a risk manager and are in process of hiring that person. |
| 00:46:34.84 | Amy Haworth | Do not have on your toes. Thank you. |
| 00:46:36.62 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 00:46:36.72 | Amy Haworth | Yeah. |
| 00:46:36.79 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 00:46:36.81 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 00:46:37.06 | Janelle Kellman | Correct. Thank you. |
| 00:46:43.76 | Joan Cox | Yes. |
| 00:46:44.98 | Jill Hoffman | Can Jill go? Oh, sorry? Yeah. |
| 00:46:45.53 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
| 00:46:45.72 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:46:45.85 | Joan Cox | All right. |
| 00:46:45.89 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:46:46.21 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 00:46:46.33 | Unknown | she, |
| 00:46:46.56 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 00:46:48.07 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. getting uncomfortable up here because a lot of these wins from this year are things that have been years in the making. And so... You know, I don't I'm not going to respond to these things that are claimed as wins because many of them are. But I mean. It was great that the Verdura was pulled this year, but that was 10 years worth of really hard work and work with the owner of the boat and work with our you know, our police department, our waterfront and legal to pull it. So, you know, Anyway, I don't want to. I don't want to. ANYWAY. negatively engaged, but crying victory for some of these things for this past year on some of these things is you know. Anyway, sorry. You called on me. That's my... |
| 00:47:39.97 | Amy Haworth | I think that you My intention is not that I'm giving you guys credit for everything. And I don't know that you guys are taking credit for everything. But this is just whether it's five years ago, ten years ago, or six months ago, happened and it's good, right? It is positive interaction and positive stuff. I would also say that a lot of stuff on this list is not something that was a council special project. I mean, negotiating or especially negotiating your labor contracts, that's the work that a city has to do, right? And that's, and hiring a finance director, a new finance team, that's all stuff that your city manager does But it's still seen as a win, I think, for the community. So that's my intention and it's, um, Because it's important, right? Because sometimes we, and I say we, I'll do this. And a place like that We think it's all about us, right? We have political pressure, and we know what we want to get done. We know what our lives are. |
| 00:48:43.10 | Melissa Blaustein | want to get down. |
| 00:48:43.81 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 00:48:43.83 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 00:48:43.84 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. And it's staff kind of jobs that either how to get that done or, hey, did you forget we have a healthy element? It's such a heavy lift, right? So trying to balance those things. This is helpful for them. So are we getting |
| 00:48:57.97 | Unknown | it. |
| 00:48:58.64 | Amy Haworth | Yeah. |
| 00:48:59.01 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:48:59.69 | Joan Cox | So we recovered a bunch of money that we had spent and that we were seeking recovery of. We actually did recover a bunch of that this year. And we also got a bunch of grant funding in addition to the sea level rise million dollar grant. |
| 00:49:14.66 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:49:18.15 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. Anything else from anybody else or back to the questionnaire? |
| 00:49:22.79 | Joan Cox | I think we've covered the waterfront. |
| 00:49:27.40 | Unknown | So I'm going to... So I, I work with the people who can like pull three markers and it looks beautiful. So you can read my writing. We're going to put some of that there. And then |
| 00:49:43.43 | Amy Haworth | All of you, Let's go, we're dancing. Bye. I believe you were all kind of in, oh, I'm sorry, Mr. Sweet. |
| 00:49:51.80 | Unknown | Wow. |
| 00:49:52.91 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. Yeah. I'm going to talk about the importance of staff. So, Mr. City Manager. What were you saying? If you have different land. |
| 00:50:02.23 | Chris Zapata | I don't, but I want to amplify the service to the community, all the community that staff does. And so the stabilization of staff through labor contracts, through hirings, all of those things are what really, really, in my mind, is the biggest win that I would suggest happened last year. |
| 00:50:28.60 | Unknown | You know, it's great that you play with your father too. |
| 00:50:30.78 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 00:50:31.09 | Unknown | you |
| 00:50:31.10 | Amy Haworth | I read staff. This is something you guys get your hands in, right? And it's incredibly important. So, This is just up here. We're not really gonna refer to it, All right. So all of you. also knew that there was going to be a quad. Thank you. So does anybody out there not |
| 00:50:50.96 | Unknown | and that was the. Thank you. |
| 00:50:55.35 | Ian Sobieski | Do you want to stick it on the wall maybe there? |
| 00:50:55.39 | Unknown | Thank you. Yeah, sure. |
| 00:50:58.00 | Ian Sobieski | up there so everyone can see it. |
| 00:50:59.45 | Unknown | I'll help you. |
| 00:51:00.35 | Ian Sobieski | I'll help you out. |
| 00:51:00.99 | Unknown | you Thank you. |
| 00:51:01.68 | Amy Haworth | Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Okay. So, Y stands for strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats. Understand that strengths and weaknesses are sort of internal, right? So things like if you have a balanced budget, that's a strength because it's internal. opportunities are things externally. you know, and in practice too, whether it's right or |
| 00:51:25.46 | Unknown | Wow. |
| 00:51:29.45 | Amy Haworth | So again, People get bent. hours on this, but I wanted to go around because again, it's a snapshot in time and it's important to do that because like I said, nobody would have thought Pandemic with people's bingo cards. So let's see if I can Do this. Okay. Um, it's just, did he say? I'll try it on the Evo. It's just a little risky Evo. No offense. Please don't do send it. Um, So, why don't we, I'm going to, So, here's the next one. and asking for all four of them. Okay. And I'm going to do a very imperfect... We're in. |
| 00:52:14.22 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 00:52:14.92 | Amy Haworth | What's that? |
| 00:52:15.73 | Melissa Blaustein | It's going to be long, but it's good. |
| 00:52:17.51 | Amy Haworth | I'm good. |
| 00:52:18.95 | Melissa Blaustein | Do you want if we because I imagine we probably have many of the same ones. How do you want us to indicate same or just say it again? |
| 00:52:22.29 | Unknown | How do you want to say that? I think it's important that we |
| 00:52:26.54 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay. |
| 00:52:27.03 | Amy Haworth | that five people thought was. OK, great. I'm not going to put down who said it. |
| 00:52:29.75 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay, great. Great. |
| 00:52:32.01 | Amy Haworth | So that you didn't think so. |
| 00:52:32.06 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 00:52:38.24 | Amy Haworth | Okay, and we're gonna keep these, you know, One or two work. |
| 00:52:47.79 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah, okay, so I only added ones. Mine's not comprehensive in that I was adding to the previous list, so I'm not sure exactly how that'll work, because I would validate other people's if we go round-robin, but I was going to add Uh, so in strengths, we have an extremely well-educated community, uh, You said strengths, right? Are you talking about internal? I'm sorry. Internal only, not external, is that? I'm sorry. |
| 00:53:23.36 | Amy Haworth | I have let's say we did have five. Thank you. |
| 00:53:25.71 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 00:53:26.42 | Amy Haworth | you |
| 00:53:29.72 | Ian Sobieski | Okay. So strengths slash resources is the way I was thinking of it and unique maritime access and possibilities. |
| 00:53:40.64 | Ian Sobieski | intrinsic tourist appeal and consequent tax and fee revenue base, or maybe potential. |
| 00:53:50.75 | Ian Sobieski | intrinsic tourist appeal and consequent tax and revenue base. |
| 00:53:58.85 | Ian Sobieski | high property values and consequent tax base. |
| 00:54:05.60 | Ian Sobieski | experienced city manager. |
| 00:54:14.54 | Ian Sobieski | Huge hidden asset value owned by the city. with emphasis on huge |
| 00:54:24.21 | Ian Sobieski | Huge. I already said extremely well-educated community. Are we doing threats also in the whole jam? Am I reading my whole list? Okay, threats, aging, |
| 00:54:38.45 | Ian Sobieski | threats, aging infrastructure, very aging, maybe emphasis on the very. Natural disasters, so earthquake, fire, and flooding. And then the biggest threat to everything, including ourselves, is time. |
| 00:55:02.79 | Ian Sobieski | our weaknesses. are that as a, we intrinsically have poor scale, meaning numbers of people versus fixed costs. 7,000 people is the size of Sausalito. And yet we have a police chief, a city manager across those 7,000. So we have intrinsic, finance world, you call that intrinsically poor scale for all our services. |
| 00:55:33.13 | Ian Sobieski | Many absentee property owners, both commercially and residentially. |
| 00:55:41.33 | Ian Sobieski | These are weaknesses again. Mistrust. |
| 00:55:48.49 | Ian Sobieski | and fear of making mistakes. as a weakness. say, vivid fear of making mistakes. |
| 00:56:02.64 | Ian Sobieski | And then let's see, I think that was my list. We have enormous revenue potential as an opportunity. |
| 00:56:17.06 | Linda Fodge | Thank you. |
| 00:56:19.66 | Joan Cox | So I did include the ones that were in our strategic plan that I thought were still valid. Okay, so resident engagement. Yeah. staff management team. Financial management. |
| 00:56:41.86 | Joan Cox | tourism and revenue diversity, which the mayor mentioned. |
| 00:56:45.34 | Unknown | If that's right, drop it. |
| 00:56:47.68 | Joan Cox | Thank you. I think it's the revenue diversity is a strength. So and he mentioned some of the aspects of that, our property tax, our but tourism is really an aspect of that revenue diversity that other cities do not enjoy. |
| 00:57:03.04 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:57:06.89 | Joan Cox | Council Talent. |
| 00:57:25.74 | Joan Cox | All right. Next on my list, I have weaknesses. |
| 00:57:29.30 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:57:30.61 | Joan Cox | This will not be popular. A weakness is council cohesion. and council relationship with staff. |
| 00:57:43.71 | Joan Cox | Emergency Management. Yes. |
| 00:57:47.64 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:57:50.46 | Ian Sobieski | Yes. |
| 00:57:50.76 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:57:54.19 | Joan Cox | I like readiness better than management, actually. Um, insurance. |
| 00:58:04.04 | Joan Cox | I agree with the mayor on absentee property owners. |
| 00:58:12.16 | Unknown | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 00:58:12.97 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
| 00:58:12.99 | Joan Cox | Yes. |
| 00:58:16.60 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:58:17.48 | Joan Cox | No. But there are actually those in this room who... host Airbnb, even though we don't allow it. So not at this table. . |
| 00:58:33.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:58:38.05 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:58:38.08 | Unknown | . |
| 00:58:39.19 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:58:39.33 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:58:39.72 | Unknown | Bye. Bye. Yeah. |
| 00:58:42.42 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 00:58:42.52 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:58:42.53 | Ian Sobieski | Commercial property, absentee commercial landlords also is a big problem, both in the industrial and commercial sector. |
| 00:58:49.40 | Joan Cox | A weakness is a single primary corridor, and that really relates to our emergency challenges. Yes. our hillsides and our wildfire. management. infrastructure needs. |
| 00:59:15.85 | Joan Cox | our school system, |
| 00:59:17.59 | Unknown | Yeah, I think I got that. |
| 00:59:19.46 | Joan Cox | We have influence, but we have no oversight. |
| 00:59:23.42 | Unknown | Bye. That is a threat. Well, a lot of it are out. Yeah. |
| 00:59:26.82 | Joan Cox | It's a weakness. I have it as an opportunity. I have it as a threat. Yeah. |
| 00:59:32.15 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:59:32.28 | Unknown | you |
| 00:59:32.30 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:59:32.37 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:59:32.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:59:34.39 | Joan Cox | And then DEI. So I think we've made great strides, but I still consider it to be a weakness. |
| 00:59:41.39 | Amy Haworth | And you said that you made within the city of staff within |
| 00:59:45.55 | Joan Cox | I mean, within the community and our neighboring communities. opportunities. Climate change, sea level rise. And that I have as a threat as well. So there's a lot of overlap, I think. The marineship blue economy, and I give full credit to Janelle on that. |
| 01:00:07.82 | Linda Fodge | And shift to the target. |
| 01:00:10.81 | Joan Cox | undergrounding. |
| 01:00:20.39 | Joan Cox | Alternative service delivery. So the mayor made reference to this, but we have an opportunity for collaboration. or that. consolidation. For example, with our sewer collection system. |
| 01:00:34.30 | Unknown | Yeah. Can't stand or fell. |
| 01:00:36.47 | Joan Cox | No, it's Saucyde Marin City Sanitary District. It's in our strategic plan already to work on consolidation. opportunities, new infrastructure resources, |
| 01:00:50.38 | Unknown | opportunities. |
| 01:00:51.85 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:00:52.15 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 01:00:52.19 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:00:56.64 | Amy Haworth | So new infrastructure is |
| 01:00:59.59 | Joan Cox | Well, for example, we can now line pipes instead of replacing them. we can run a bunch of things through one system rather than have five things stacked on top of one another. Economic development. |
| 01:01:20.20 | Joan Cox | Relationship with Marin County and surrounding regional authorities. |
| 01:01:25.19 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:01:26.32 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 01:01:29.99 | Joan Cox | Babette will like this one. Transportation. |
| 01:01:39.79 | Joan Cox | Risk management, of course, that relates to our insurance threat. |
| 01:01:44.08 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:01:46.02 | Joan Cox | The mayor mentioned this, but I have it as capitalize on real estate portfolio. and evolving population. Well, we have a lot of younger residents and families moving into town, and so there's an opportunity to capitalize on that, in my view. |
| 01:02:07.09 | Unknown | I'll be... Thank you. |
| 01:02:12.22 | Joan Cox | Population, I said, but yeah. |
| 01:02:14.06 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
| 01:02:14.08 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 01:02:17.12 | Joan Cox | All right, and then threats, you know, a lot of the opportunities or weaknesses and threats all overlap, but I'm just going to go through them. So climate change, sea level rise. our hillsides and our wildfire challenges. Escalating pension obligations. |
| 01:02:37.89 | Joan Cox | inherited financial obligations |
| 01:02:50.02 | Joan Cox | State housing requirements. |
| 01:03:00.22 | Joan Cox | competing visions for the Marin ship. |
| 01:03:03.96 | Amy Haworth | And that, I want to count on the change. |
| 01:03:06.38 | Joan Cox | the community and I don't know about council but perhaps |
| 01:03:13.18 | Joan Cox | the school system and family impacts. |
| 01:03:23.01 | Joan Cox | decline of tourism. So, you know, that was a COVID impact that we're still recovering from. Hand in hand with that are San Francisco's struggles. So, yeah, that really adversely impacts us. |
| 01:03:45.00 | Joan Cox | increase in homelessness, |
| 01:03:48.92 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:03:48.97 | Amy Haworth | And that increased. Thank you. |
| 01:03:51.31 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Thanks to you. |
| 01:03:52.43 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 01:03:52.53 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Thank you. Yes, so throughout California. And, you know, I think a win, unfortunately, that didn't happen last year was that Sausalito is the first community in California to compassionately close a homeless encampment. And that was a huge win for Mayors Hoffman and Kelman. and obviously the rest of the council, but |
| 01:04:23.58 | Joan Cox | Lack of diversity. |
| 01:04:29.22 | Joan Cox | Speed and advancement of technology. |
| 01:04:35.46 | Joan Cox | Insurance. And then I had emergencies and disasters. And I apologize that that was so long, but it was really... a takeoff on what was in our strategic plan kind of was great. Don't apologize. |
| 01:04:51.00 | Unknown | I see. Oh my God. |
| 01:04:56.89 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:04:59.39 | Joan Cox | Well, I feel badly for the other three council members who have to follow that. |
| 01:05:06.22 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:05:06.32 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 01:05:06.63 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:05:06.73 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 01:05:07.32 | Unknown | Thank you. you Don't worry. |
| 01:05:08.97 | Amy Haworth | you |
| 01:05:09.01 | Unknown | you |
| 01:05:09.02 | Amy Haworth | Yeah, this is not, I'm not going to have any other questions. |
| 01:05:13.60 | Joan Cox | If I was them, I would be squirming. I'd be like, I had that one. |
| 01:05:16.99 | Amy Haworth | We're, |
| 01:05:17.22 | Joan Cox | We're going to have some of the same ones. Yes, absolutely. I hope we do. |
| 01:05:17.24 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:05:17.29 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:05:22.05 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:05:26.08 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. Okay. you So there will be a lot of overlap, which I think is a good sign. So strengths, I have staff. We have an amazing team at City Hall. Fiscal stability, cat tip to Chad. Measure L dollars. Measure L. community engagement. work-life balance for staff. improved relationship with the business community. Our generally our location that we're a beautiful well known community on the waterfront that's an international destination and strong partnership with the county and our county supervisor. |
| 01:06:14.53 | Melissa Blaustein | our housing element and general plan, our low emissions action plan, and the work that's been Okay. You can put it, we call it the leap. We call it the leap. |
| 01:06:28.94 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. |
| 01:06:33.52 | Melissa Blaustein | And generally the commitment to climate change mitigation within our community, which includes the sea level rise group that Mayors Hoffman and Kelman were responsible for running and had a lot of great recommendations. Also includes the landslide task force recommendations that Mayor Hoffman was responsible for pulling together. And the sustainability commission and blue economy group, sea futures. The new labor agreements that helped put us in a strong position for the next three years. A very bright and. Whoops, sorry. Sorry. I just thought most of them are already on your list. So that's why I thought you could just start. Okay. Okay. |
| 01:07:14.79 | Melissa Blaustein | very bright, engaged city council. real estate value. police chief and police department, generally the renaissance of our police department. |
| 01:07:30.44 | Melissa Blaustein | Renaissance is a great word. I think that's all I had on the, and most of them have already been mentioned. Weaknesses, I also have aging infrastructure. litigation and lawsuits against the city. insurance loss, insurance generally. mudslides in our hillsides, increasing issues with the waterfront and the unhoused, sea level rise, |
| 01:08:08.98 | Melissa Blaustein | our grant consultant. I think that's also opportunity, but we haven't, hasn't been as fruitful as we would like. |
| 01:08:20.96 | Melissa Blaustein | Well, there's more we can be doing around grants and getting more money. Yeah. Just grants, just grants generally. We can be getting more money. Yeah, nothing on the person, just generally we can be getting more money. Emergency management. It's a weakness. It's also an opportunity. There's overlap on both of them. Emergency management, emergency disaster preparedness, Um, DEI and council cohesion are also on the weaknesses list for me. Um, and then opportunities. I also think there's a lot of overlap here. sea level rise and climate change mitigation. smart cities, testing and incubating for new climate programs. see futures incubator for blue economy. Smart Cities Incubator for New Tech, Marin City Relationship Rebuilding, CEI. Center for the Arts. a new downtown with a focus on our residents, uh, Mm-hmm. 10 year planning for our finances. Uh-huh. |
| 01:09:49.32 | Melissa Blaustein | a review of our CIPs. I think it's like evolving population, but I wrote down next generation of impact. Um, also business relationship is an opportunity as well as a strength. Cause I think we have more, we can do there and I would include the BID on that. Uh, DEI focus. the Dorothy Gibson house. And then also new revenue streams from impact fees, which our city manager had on his list. New revenue streams. I think there's a lot generally, but one of the ideas that was mentioned in the city manager SWOT analysis that I think bears re-mentioning is impact fees because we've talked about that quite a bit. And then threats. Again, insurance and risk management generally. Again, insurance. litigation and legal threats. aging infrastructure. level rise, climate. lack of diversity, lack of technology, Homelessness. natural disasters, lack of disaster preparedness and emergency management. Rising pension costs, staff turnover. It's an ongoing concern in case that begins again. And generally our capital improvements. And then also just that we're an old community with older infrastructure, which was also in the city manager's list. |
| 01:11:27.85 | Unknown | management. |
| 01:11:33.11 | Melissa Blaustein | Right, exactly. |
| 01:11:35.65 | Unknown | Residents. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Blessed. |
| 01:11:42.50 | Babette McDougall | Thank you. |
| 01:11:43.29 | Melissa Blaustein | Less. Okay. I think that's it. |
| 01:11:47.36 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:11:47.38 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 01:11:47.44 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:11:48.00 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:11:49.64 | Unknown | Take a breath. I'm going to sew your hair back. Let it go. |
| 01:11:49.82 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. your hair back. |
| 01:11:52.18 | Unknown | Thank you. you |
| 01:11:53.25 | Amy Haworth | Okay. Michael, I'm just saying, you know, it's great that there's some real things, right, that are emerging. And you guys know that. I think it's important to hear, and I think it's important when we start to talk about featured end items or whatever, |
| 01:12:06.92 | Linda Fodge | Thank you. |
| 01:12:08.81 | Amy Haworth | that we look at threats especially, right? Because the strength of these are going to allow us to activate threats. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:12:21.09 | Janelle Kellman | So I'll make it somewhat easy on you. |
| 01:12:23.32 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:12:23.34 | Janelle Kellman | Ooh. My strengths have all been stated except for one. So let me restate the ones that have been stated. Geographic location, and I think about both that were waterfront and were proximate to GGNRA. Golden Gate National Recreation Area, yeah, that we are seen as a world-class visitor destination, High level of community engagement, committed leadership. These have been said already. I guess I have a couple others. Hasn't been said the historic significance in the historic working waterfront. It's under strength. We're an age friendly community. |
| 01:13:05.29 | Janelle Kellman | That was actually, I think from last year, but I thought worth repeating. We do have an active grant program, although as Councilman Boston said, we need some improvements. Um, climate activism, Also already said, and then I would add increased transparency on finances. It's a strength. It's a vast improvement. looking at Chad and you're here. |
| 01:13:31.85 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, wanna go to weaknesses? Yep. It's a little bit long. Loss of insurance pool, what he said, long-term pension debt obligations. Yeah, so it's a little more detailed. Our general obligation bonds, we have a deferred payment and a 15-year amortization schedule that's going to pop those interest rates up substantially. Loss of 44% of our property taxes to summer and fire. We have a fire consolidation where we give away almost half of our property taxes. |
| 01:14:11.54 | Janelle Kellman | We have a fire consolidation. The deal is that we lose a lot of our property tax. Yeah. Deferred maintenance. said aging infrastructure. inability to manage city owned property at market rates, |
| 01:14:31.43 | Janelle Kellman | lack of oversight slash status calibration on legacy leases and agreements. And so for public and council understanding, that's Saucena Yacht Harbor, it's Cass Gidley, MLK, it's Bank of America slash SCA. |
| 01:14:51.19 | Janelle Kellman | Let me rephrase it. We clear policy direction on preferred use of city-owned property. Yep. Silos between departments. |
| 01:15:04.58 | Janelle Kellman | failure to connect the dots between significant consulting contracts and |
| 01:15:15.68 | Janelle Kellman | I mean, sure, high level, right? But to understand that we sign off on these large contracts and they actually all impact one another and how are we looking at them holistically? staff workload, |
| 01:15:31.54 | Janelle Kellman | project management and operationalizing some of our visions. |
| 01:15:37.94 | Janelle Kellman | project management. |
| 01:15:42.43 | Janelle Kellman | Lack of diversity. |
| 01:15:48.23 | Janelle Kellman | It's actually in population. We've done a really good job within City Hall, thanks to Chris. high industrial rents, |
| 01:15:59.54 | Janelle Kellman | And historically, and it's shifting, outsourcing key city hall functions to third party consultants or third parties. |
| 01:16:12.85 | Janelle Kellman | Don't worry, there's opportunities. Sorry guys, there's a long list. Equally long opportunities. Yeah, that was only to them. Community. Okay, here are the opportunities. This is a big one. It was something I want to get out of today. Defining need versus want. Um, |
| 01:16:34.62 | Janelle Kellman | I'll go slower. We have opportunity around waterfront recreation and facilities. |
| 01:16:45.73 | Janelle Kellman | Blue Economy, which was mentioned. We have an opportunity around shifting our lens to merge infrastructure upgrades with beautification projects. |
| 01:17:00.66 | Janelle Kellman | Sure, infrastructure, we've all said aging infrastructure. So those upgrades can also be beautiful and create a more resilient community. Mm-hmm. obtain more grant funds. |
| 01:17:19.19 | Janelle Kellman | And I'll just put a bigger bucket of increasing revenue from city controlled either recreation facilities or land or buildings. |
| 01:17:35.00 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:17:35.83 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah. |
| 01:17:41.68 | Janelle Kellman | enhance equity and DEI based policies. |
| 01:17:50.07 | Janelle Kellman | Streamline permitting. |
| 01:17:57.19 | Janelle Kellman | I want to just put a big bucket of decarbonization, but that is really about our EV chargers or electric water taxis or other efforts that are |
| 01:17:59.86 | Linda Fodge | That's what that is really about. |
| 01:18:06.32 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:18:09.74 | Janelle Kellman | that. Yep. improve roadways and opportunity. |
| 01:18:21.27 | Janelle Kellman | Better use of technology. I know we've been working on a Click It Fix It app for a while. |
| 01:18:30.47 | Janelle Kellman | Awesome, I'm all for it. Increased communication from City Hall on pending projects. All of us. and more water-based affordable housing. |
| 01:18:48.54 | Janelle Kellman | Not that we can control that, but my wish list. |
| 01:18:51.32 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:18:52.00 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:18:52.03 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah. |
| 01:18:59.53 | Janelle Kellman | All right, and then we'll move to the threats. |
| 01:19:06.16 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. Climate change. |
| 01:19:13.28 | Janelle Kellman | which we could say includes flooding and landslides or separate, but I know my colleagues have already mentioned those. Those things like storm drain overflows, |
| 01:19:31.17 | Janelle Kellman | litigation. |
| 01:19:35.22 | Janelle Kellman | This is on threats, loss of institutional knowledge. |
| 01:19:45.29 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:19:45.31 | Unknown | Nope. |
| 01:19:46.22 | Janelle Kellman | Not even us. Deferred maintenance at City Hall. |
| 01:19:46.25 | Unknown | not even us. |
| 01:19:55.89 | Janelle Kellman | Yep. |
| 01:19:58.44 | Unknown | I'm... |
| 01:20:05.64 | Janelle Kellman | lack of a historical property index and inventory |
| 01:20:14.37 | Janelle Kellman | Mm-hmm. Deferred bulkhead maintenance. |
| 01:20:26.89 | Janelle Kellman | projects over budget. |
| 01:20:31.88 | Janelle Kellman | and then rising pension costs. |
| 01:20:40.98 | Unknown | Thanks. |
| 01:20:41.65 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:20:44.20 | Unknown | Um, Thank you. |
| 01:20:52.89 | Unknown | So, and then, well, I'll do it. Thank you. Okay. |
| 01:21:00.52 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. So mine are pretty minor pretty short and in keeping with my initial opening campaign statement that I made, which is, I look at it from the lens of why we're here and what this body is supposed to do, right? So, Here's my strengths. We have an incredibly competent staff right now. In 2021, we really had to, focus in. and look at who's performing and who's not and transition to a different way of doing business in Sausalito. And I think that we've done that We've got a really great finance director. We have a really great director of CDD. We had a great public works director. He's still here. Thank God. Thank you, Kevin. And our communications director, Abbott, also exceptional, right? So we kept the exceptional people. We added some additional exceptional people, and I think I have a, that's a huge strength right now. we have relatively stable revenue streams, even though we have challenges. And I believe Chad's going to talk to us, our finance director is going to talk to us about um, potential deficits in the next few years due to pension debt and some other high risk issues that we have. But we have relatively stable revenue streams. Our issue is how we spend our money and what we can do to mitigate those. So sorry, I just drifted into opportunity. So those are the other internal factor, I think weaknesses primary weakness, for my view, is a council inability to set and adhere to priorities for us for our time and for our staff time. And so once we decide on what are priority projects and what's a priority for the Council, then our agendas and our staff time and our Council time naturally flow from that. Whatever criteria we set, that objective criteria for what we're going to spend our time on, will become much more efficient, and our staff will become much more efficient, I believe. Substantial, and another, so therefore the weakness of substantial staff time and council time redirected to non-priority projects and objectives. That's a huge weakness, I think. and internal inefficiency that we have right now. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS. failure to analyze fiscal year objectives through that holistic lens. of what's best for the entire community instead of primary interest from a perceived constituency. I think that's one of the weaknesses that we've had on this council in our own agenda setting. Failure to adhere to Brown Act requirements and other rules for elected. Brown Act requirements help us be prepared for meetings. Brown Act requirements help our community understand what we're actually gonna talk about at a meeting. If we have staff reports that aren't holistic, if we have failures in those, I'm not prepared as a council member. And if I'm not prepared, then how does How does the Community become prepared so that. to me primary weakness. Now I'm moving on to external factors. The council determination to set state and fiscal year priorities for council and staff efforts. As I said, I think that's a huge opportunity to increase efficiency. lower wasted staff time and focus in on what are actual priorities. and actually get those things done. to the point of it took us seven years to get a ferry project done. That was our priority, but. That's one thing. Project. in the context of our whole town. And so- A lot of that time was spent responding to other groups who had ideas about what the ferry landing should look like. and trying to air those and respond to those in a responsible way. I mean, we had some pretty great I mean, pretty consistent plans back in, I don't know, Kevin, back when we first started, right, seven years ago. This plan looks a lot like some of those plans. But we let that process flow, and I participated in that for two years on a subcommittee. So I'm happy that it's passed, but I'm also happy. sensitive to criticism. Because we could have just said, We're done. submit it, right? We could have done that six years ago. Opportunities. As I said, once we get that discipline, then the other opportunities will flow from there. in a streamlined inefficient. I completely agree with what Councilmember Kellan just said about defining a need versus a want. and and figuring out other ways to achieve those, but not using council time or staff time to a significant degree. Um, Threats, I think the fiscal inability to meet the needs for a community as a whole is a big threat. And, you know, we're looking at today's how we spend our money and the 10 year projections, but I completely agree that we should do that. Projections are only based, are only as good as based on the assumptions that you use. Those assumptions obviously are going to change. So it is a every year, you know, you're going to do a new 10 year based on what you just saw or historically. If you have an outlier year, you need to throw that outlier year out and you need to look at what are the actual trends that we can, rely on. our infrastructure, is a huge threat. And the inattention to our infrastructure as a whole is what has led to our loss of insurance, and it's what's led to... community threats with you know, People tripping over our lawsuits have increased because of the lack of focus on infrastructure, these huge numbers that we were briefed on in 2021 with chris's october 30th assessment that he gave us. And he, you know, I think the number, Chris, that you gave us was 500 and something million dollars in deferred maintenance in Sausalito and infrastructure needs. And, you know, holistically, how can we look at that and, focus on what we can achieve in any given year and prioritizing that above other above other efforts, which I think we have to do. So that's the threat. That's the opportunity. That's a weakness. Thank you. That's a strength, maybe. Um, And then, obviously, threats from failure to adhere to Brown Act requirements and other rules for electeds. That's, I think, a threat. you know, from all kinds of different angles. I'm not sure. Anyway, those are my, I'm not saying that the strengths and weaknesses that haven't been brought out by other council members that I disagree with. But when I look at now, how do we approach that and prioritize that and move forward in the best way possible for the rest of our community? That's mainly what I'm looking at. |
| 01:27:21.69 | Amy Haworth | Okay. Wow. you So. Let's see. Oh, I know. I know what I need to do. I'm gonna ask staff for theirs. But first, I was, you guys, |
| 01:27:33.54 | Jill Hoffman | I'm going to the restroom. You guys should keep going with that. |
| 01:27:34.77 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. Yeah. Five minute break, no five minute break, go ahead. I'm gonna do that too. And then we're gonna come back and I wanna hear from staff. And I also wanna kind of acknowledge staff because wow, I've never heard that at one of our staff, our council meetings, we have a fabulous staff. So when you come back, I'm gonna do it. So let's come back at like 945. |
| 01:27:37.32 | Unknown | I'm fighting it, Rick. Go ahead. I'm going to do it now. |
| 01:27:55.49 | Amy Haworth | Okay. |
| 01:27:55.53 | Janelle Kellman | I need to make one request to the room. Chris, can we get you to slide up so that we can actually also dialogue with you when we're here? |
| 01:28:00.74 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 01:28:00.79 | Unknown | possible. I think that's great. Thank you. |
| 01:28:04.77 | Janelle Kellman | you |
| 01:28:04.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:28:05.64 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 01:28:05.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:28:10.63 | Unknown | you're going to see all the children's children. |
| 01:28:11.39 | Chad Hess | Yeah, I'll grab a card. |
| 01:28:16.25 | Unknown | Thank you. No, no. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:28:23.07 | Ian Sobieski | Do we know where it is? |
| 01:28:28.97 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. Bye. |
| 01:28:35.30 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. Bye-bye. It hurts their eyes. |
| 01:28:51.42 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:28:52.82 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:28:53.19 | Unknown | you And so I'm looking forward to that. Thank you. My friends here at the cemetery Yeah. |
| 01:29:03.70 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:29:04.98 | Unknown | That's the weakness. |
| 01:29:06.22 | Scott Thornburg | It's not a matter of fact. |
| 01:29:08.58 | Unknown | We ran out. Thank you. |
| 01:29:10.18 | Scott Thornburg | Yeah. Right. It's not. |
| 01:29:14.10 | Amy Haworth | Oh, man. |
| 01:29:14.64 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
| 01:29:19.04 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
| 01:29:19.09 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 01:29:19.51 | Scott Thornburg | Bye. |
| 01:29:23.70 | Scott Thornburg | and I had a lot of time. Bring it. Council members, mayor, |
| 01:29:33.74 | Unknown | Thank you. No. |
| 01:29:35.87 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. I'm just trying to get ready to be quiet. This is your one minute one. |
| 01:29:47.17 | Ian Sobieski | the state. Thank you. |
| 01:29:55.74 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:29:57.30 | Amy Haworth | No, no. |
| 01:29:57.82 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:29:58.46 | Amy Haworth | I want to point out that They have pink paper boxes. With Valentine's Day. Yeah. Which I appreciate. In fact, in my city, I only wear paint to count the feet. I'm trying to dare for them to underestimate. Yep, so it's okay. All right, thank you all. |
| 01:30:14.36 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:30:14.65 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
| 01:30:17.04 | Amy Haworth | deep breath. We're going to go to the city manager for his SWOT analysis, which staff is giving him their input, so we're not going to put staff on the spot. However, what I would love to do, I was really, seriously, it was, it was, gratified I'm sure for the public to hear that you guys have faith in your staff that is huge. And that is impressive. And so if you're a staff member Could you stand up? And, Abba, that means you have to get up. |
| 01:30:43.42 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:30:52.75 | Amy Haworth | Really, you know, it is really important. I think staff retention was also mentioned. It's super important. So I wanted to get a shout out. So Mr. City Manager, I'm going to attempt to write down yours. Yeah. |
| 01:31:03.72 | Unknown | And it makes sense of it all. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:31:08.73 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. I also want to point out that our police chief is a little ill, but she's on Zoom. So she stood up. Our recreation manager is also taking care of a sick child. So he's stood up. Recreation manager and our city attorney is also on Zoom as well. So I want to point that out. So I always believe in the thought that you don't ask people to do what you don't want to do yourself so a swat analysis is something that i find a very useful tool so appreciative of the council's efforts and real thought going into theirs so here is um the city manager swat that i provided um as you know my uh guidepost and obviously I will miss things. I missed some things. And I thought it was telling when Vice Mayor Cox spoke about San Francisco's impact on the city of Sausalito because that was not in my SWAT. There were others that were not in my SWAT, but I'll read my SWAT so you can see the thought process. |
| 01:31:29.50 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:32:09.31 | Unknown | Bye. Thank you. I have to pray. |
| 01:32:13.38 | Chris Zapata | That could be interesting. Yeah. Yeah. |
| 01:32:19.23 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:32:19.69 | Chris Zapata | Yeah, and I don't believe you have to write all this down because it's something I can send out and be part of the public record. And it's really some of it's redundant. But here are the strengths. An engaged community. Our city finances are positive. Completed an audit on time with no significant findings. The passage of Measure L. The investment of cash in a higher yielding and secure vehicles for more interest income. The city debt for fire police parks. Facility is managed and plan and the park debt is gone in 2030. The million dollar grant that was fought for and gotten by a lot of community work and led by then mayor Kelman for planning and resiliency and a vulnerability assessment. |
| 01:33:02.16 | Unknown | Amen. |
| 01:33:06.36 | Chris Zapata | The stabilization of staff, which I mentioned is the big one at all levels, not just at the department level, but at all levels so that we could have people serving Sausalito. And in that staffing, there is work-life balance, and there is also the council's agreement that there be a mid-market, a market-based philosophy where we're not the lowest-paying organization in Marin County. We're not the highest-paying organization in Marin County, but we're at the middle. the advancement of the housing element. Obviously, the... the lowest paying organization in marin county we're not the highest paying organization in marin county but we're at the middle the advancement of the housing element obviously the completion of a general plan which are heavy heavy lifts the extensive property portfolio and parking enterprise which is a strength our police and fire buildings are relatively new there's been catch-up funding designated by prior councils and added to in a 115 trust for pensions and post-employment benefits. 115 Trust, correct. We are minimizing contract employees during COVID, post-COVID. We got into a system of many, many, many contract employees trying to fill needs. And so now we have gone back more toward in-house employees to generate institutional knowledge and get away from the idea of contract employees to the extent we can. We still need them, but we have them. We have taken that down significantly. we have great community partners in Sausalito. I won't try to name one because I'll offend all, but we have great community partners in Sausalito that work on quality of life and safety with us. The park improvements at MLK, Martin Luther King Park, Dunphy, and Southview through the Certificate of Participation, that is mostly done. So that's really a strength for the community to have parks in good condition. The labor contracts have been mentioned and then the compassionate closure of the Marinship encampment. Those are all strengths. In terms of weakness, again, old infrastructure, number of lawsuits, our risk profile. A reliance on other people's money, tourists. rents. the maintenance of our waterside facilities and our use of Tidlands Fund to fix that. That's a weakness. We have a number of older, older docks and fishing piers and things that are in disrepair and don't present the best space to the public and to the people that come to Sausalito. And we have a Tidlands Fund that we haven't really been intentional about, in the words of our finance director. So we also do not have yet a comprehensive infrastructure and facility analysis which integrates our finances. and our resiliency efforts. So that 10-year financial forecast is important. there's a always a rising market in terms of housing so it's difficult to recruit people like police officers we have a police negotiation coming up in 18 months and that's going to be interesting given how difficult it is to recruit people we have a challenge or weakness with, you know, unhoused. Our normal staffing isn't a system that's set up to be sustainable, to deal with another encampment. We have, again, the public shoreline in disrepair, lack of EV charging stations, and then a current number of unfunded grants that we don't have a yes or no on, and some more work to do with our grant consultant. In terms of opportunities, 10-year financial forecasts to guide our budget resource allocation is an opportunity Yeah. |
| 01:37:08.20 | Chris Zapata | in play. It's being worked on. It started, a committee was set up by then-Mayor Blaustein that includes Councilmember Hoffman and Mayor Sobieski, former Mayor Ray Withey, and our finance director to work on a 10-year model. So it's in play, but it's not done, so it's an opportunity. looking at our capital improvement program. is an opportunity. Cerro consolidation is an opportunity. What I call targeted undergrounding district formation is an opportunity, not citywide undergrounding. It's for certain areas that have a desire and want to participate financially and go through all the hoops and hurdles with us in PG&E. That's an opportunity. Building off the general plan that exists, the general plan 2020. so building off of that general plan, which, you know, cities do every 15 to 20 years, and they are heavy lifts, and they're necessary. But also within that general plan to work on areas of the community that are broad and diverse and have different opportunities. One is obviously the marineship, and that's been stated. Obviously, downtown and Caledonia, and that's been stated. And then the other one is the Bridgeway area of Dunphy Park is also another opportunity to integrate plans that would, in fact, create an alignment with the general plan that's already been adopted. The marineship is full of potential. The blue economy was mentioned. We need to continue the progress made that we have had in our community and economic development department regarding planning permits for our residents and for businesses and people that want to come to Sausalito. It's been a work in progress, but significant. The backlog that existed has been significantly impacted in a positive way. permits and planning and our streamlining and following the recommendations from the Economic Development Advisory Committee about what we do to streamline and get our house in order so that people don't have, you know, a maze of bureaucracy to deal with. So that's being worked on and progress has been made. And also with our code enforcement backlog, progress has been made. So the city council adopted a strategy of compassionate care for homeless and unhoused. And in that same process, they also asked that we become more of a partner with the county and ask the county to become more of a partner with us. And so in that regard, we asked the county for $1.5 million to help with our encountment. It came from the council. And the county, working with the state and within their own funds, provided a $167,000 grant for this purpose two years ago. They worked with us in the state to provide a half a million dollar grant to the city, which the city has received. And we're currently working with them on a matching grant of $500,000 from the county. And what we'll use that money for is as the main approach to helping the unhoused in our community and providing housing is what's called the Dorothy Gibson House. And so being able to use state and county money to build that project up is a significant opportunity to impact two unhoused persons in our community. We need to finish Dunphy Park. Phase two of Dunphy Park is still out there to be done. It's an opportunity. We need to reopen the Marinship Park, which has also been closed for a year and a half as something that we plan on bringing forward in the next quarter. We're looking at impact fees and new revenue streams to accommodate new growth. When the housing element required by the state of California was completed by the city of Sausalito, it talked about 724 units needing to be built here. And the thought with impact fees is impact fees should be implemented so that people that are new to Sausalito pay for those costs and not the current residents of Sausalito. So that impact fee is an opportunity and that discussion is coming. |
| 01:39:45.59 | Scott Thornburg | health. |
| 01:41:13.44 | Chris Zapata | Um, We have to look at the city council's ask in their agenda, an opportunity to look at our policies on what our reserve level should be. You know, is it six months? Is it a year? Is it three months? You know, that's an important opportunity and conversation that needs to be had, as well as our leases. You know, are our leases all going to be market? I heard that earlier in a conversation about what it is we want to do. Are they going to be a la carte? You know, certain people have certain needs. Certain people are certain operators. Some businesses are for-profit. Some are non-profit. Some are a hybrid. And so what's the council's philosophy toward managing those leases? And that's an opportunity. I call it C-click fix, but it's also an opportunity to involve our community in helping us to understand needs in the city by an application. So we've been working on this for a year, a little bit more, and I'm hopeful that this is the quarter that we get that to the finish line. There's a test of a C-Click Fix app, which we called Rock Solid, Kevin. Is that what it's called? rock solid, which we're testing right now. But what that will allow to have happen is visitors, residents, people can get on the application and help us. And the way it's worked in cities that I've been in is typically someone calls says there's a pothole, fix it. But if you have a C-Click fix act, someone takes a picture and says, I'm helping you, there's a pothole. It's a whole different dynamic, a whole different interaction with the community and others, but it also allows us to track all the things that happen in a community that how many potholes, you know, how many things are related to uneven sidewalks or what buildings need to be anything that comes up, we can start to build a database and then that can inform decisions and resource allocation. So that's, |
| 01:43:07.98 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. Thank you. is you get sort of updates on what's going on, right? Because, you know, sometimes they call me and it's a meeting, there's a platform, and I try to get on it, and I try to, but maybe I didn't immediately email them back. There's a process, there's a process, |
| 01:43:25.48 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. Yep, thank you for that commercial. So we're happy to get that moving. It's an opportunity for more community engagement at a fundamental level related to our infrastructure. You know, the continued focus on diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging, that's an opportunity to continue and do more. I've asked our finance director to start to begin to create an integrated budgeting process with our public. And that's something that really is an opportunity where we ask city residents to work with the city council and city staff to figure out a budget. There are exercises that can be done and have been done in cities I've worked in and are being done around us where you see how difficult it is to build a budget, adopt a budget, because so much of a city's budget is fixed. Your employee costs, your debt service, your pension payments, your utilities. And so what you really have to work with as a city council is maybe 10%, maybe 15% of that budget. So we want the public to see how that is and see if they have an understanding that we have or have a better way to approach things. So Chad is working on a preliminary exercise this year, but we'll be into a full-blown exercise the following budget year. So that's an opportunity. You know, we need to do better for grant requests on infrastructure and climate change needs, and we understand that. We can improve our shoreline through partnerships. We have many partners, government partners, private partners, regional partners, so improving our shoreline that way. And then our quality of life opportunities, and one example was the new, you know, Toast to Sausalito, which was really vibrant. The program to create activity and selling boats to embrace diversity, Gay by the Bay. All of these things were things that there are more opportunities to build on. And then finally, the one thing that I always preach in cities I come to is, no, that's not finally. We need to be able to welcome new community members, and we need to be able to speak about how, you know, Sausalito is, what Sausalito is about, and that can be welcome packages, working with the Chamber of Commerce, working with businesses, work with everybody to welcome people to Sausalito. That's an opportunity. And then the one that I was saying is finally the other opportunity is this city has what's called Willow Creek. And, you know, you know, creeks and cities are really interesting and to me precious. So Willow Creek is an opportunity, an opportunity to embrace it and work toward figuring out how to make it more integral in the community rather than, you know, just the friends of Willow Creek pushing that. But I think it's something that Thank you. to embrace it and work toward figuring out how to make it more integral in the community rather than, you know, just the Friends of Willow Creek pushing that. But I think it's something that the city could embrace. So all that is opportunities. So threats were mentioned, but I'll give you mine. And it's infrastructure or insurance and risk management. It's infrastructure, which is integrated. It's climate change and extreme weather events that create slides and other catastrophes in communities, which is already |
| 01:46:29.07 | Scott Thornburg | is, is, |
| 01:46:39.25 | Chris Zapata | experienced. It's making sure that we have revenue that is managed in our property portfolio. You know, having parking lots and buildings and leases is something that if we don't do it right, it can be not good for anybody. So that's a threat. We obviously have done a lot of work on our pensions with the Bartell Group and with this council, and prior councils were aware of this, so they set up the 115 trust. But we know there are pension spikes. It's an unknown. And so making sure that we're monitoring them and, you know, building toward, you know, how we approach them. The city at this time has $3.9 million in its 115 trust and another million or so in its post-employment benefit trust. So total, you know, there's about $5 million that can only be used for those two purposes legally. You cannot use 115 trust money for, you know, paying for a park. You got to pay pension obligations or expenses with that. So that's it's $3.9 million in the 115 Trust specifically for pensions. Cybersecurity is a big deal. Cities and, you know, ransoming and approaches are prevalent throughout this time and in this country. You saw what a cybersecurity and a ransom did to the city of Oakland. It's done this to other people. So, you know, we have put together a lot of things in place, but as a small city, trying to figure out how we don't get held up or have, you know, problems with someone else getting into our systems through technology is an ongoing challenge and a threat. And then last, you know, the city has really been aggressive in going out and getting funding. And so these funds, which, you know, are other people's money, and the latest example was the Ferry Grant, which was $2.4 million. was it seven years ago? And here we are with a headline in the Marin IJ about the city council unanimously adopted an approach. So we have other grants that we've received over time that also are going to take some kind of council direction. One of them is obviously the Bridgeway Grant, south of downtown. you know, the city council authorized going out to get what I call different scenarios with grant money, but there's $500,000 sitting there that is being looked at by our staff and by the community and by the council as how do we do this and manage it in a way that it doesn't impact public safety, it doesn't impact the business, it doesn't impact the neighborhood, is resilient, all of those things. So, you know, the idea of that as a threat is because we could get stuck again. And so we want to try to make sure that you're aware that we know it's a threat of getting stuck again, like you did with the ferry grant. so having some real attention paid to it is what we're doing internally. Director McGowan is working on an ask to reconfigure that whole ask so that there is some sequencing and no silos. So that is something I hope that the council is mindful of and aware of. But if we turn into a seven-year time frame on that project, that's not good for anybody. The downtown concept, which the city council approved $188,000 for a year and a half ago, has the possibility of becoming a similar kind of argument. Are we going to do this or not? And so staff is sitting here saying, these are things that we go out and we try to do. And then, you know, because there may be concerns or maybe there's a better way to do it, they turn into, you know, really involved situations that, you know, I think aren't best. I think knowing upfront that these are going to be challenges and I believe they will be because many people sit on many sides of these issues, especially as it relates to, you know, Bridgeway and downtown. These are hard discussions that the council is gonna have to have and the threat being nothing gets done. Nothing gets done or it takes longer than you want. And, again, I think there has been council direction to look at these. There's funding for one of them. We want to look at them a different way. But at the same time, we truly know that there are a lot of people that need to be heard. And so that process and that transparency, and this is part of that, to tell you all, we see what we've seen. And sitting in these meetings and being on the other side of questions and comments from the public, we're mindful and we're trying to do better. So those are the threats. Those are the weaknesses. Those are the opportunities to come from staff. So I thank you for your indulgence on that and really thank you for your work on it, Mayor and Council. |
| 01:51:44.01 | Amy Haworth | Um, actually in my PowerPoint, let's see. If we could go, I believe it's right after. It's slide number five. I think let's see. |
| 01:52:02.34 | Amy Haworth | Bye. If you don't have it yet, I will make it available to everyone in the world. It's like seven slides. It's not the world's greatest, but you will get it. So yes, these are the welcome. |
| 01:52:13.58 | Scott Thornburg | Yes. |
| 01:52:17.07 | Amy Haworth | Yeah. And I think that I'll go back, go back, go back. |
| 01:52:17.46 | Janelle Kellman | Yeah. |
| 01:52:22.03 | Amy Haworth | Go back. So that, Okay, now go forward one. We're gonna start here then. Okay, so. And I apologize, that's on me, not your city manager. And can you speak into the mic since this is being recorded and I know better than that. So thank you. |
| 01:52:32.93 | Joan Cox | It's a very good thing. |
| 01:52:37.84 | Amy Haworth | So, I do want to try to distill down what we did, right? Because I think. The threats were very, there was a common, there was so many common things. Some of the threats were operational, if you were, or, you know, we have to do, you know, we have our pension obligation funds, finances, et cetera. And some of the threats were sort of dynamic related. And what I think we need to do is try to look at the things that are common in our threats and keep in mind what your city manager has said as well. And then look at your future agenda items and see how those fit in. And then see if we can distill that down even further. And we're going to do all that in time for someone to make a flight. or at least we're gonna get started. But what I wanted to say first is this 90-10 rule. Okay. And 90% of what... Is happening on a day to day basis in your city. is staff doing the daily work. It might be the maintenance of the parks. It might be something Oh, no. You know, it is hiring people, right? I mean, hiring people doesn't just, oh, that happened. That's great. No, it is all of that, right? It is the budget analysis. It is washing windows. It is fixing potholes. That's 90% of what staff spends their time on. And about 10% is leftover for council initiatives, new projects, new stuff that goes beyond. Now, some of the stuff that we'll talk about today really fits into the 90% that staff does. It's not like it's additional stuff. I mean, they're telling us there's things they need to be working on, and It doesn't mean that you guys can't Be a little bit flexible and something comes up at the dais and you go, that's a great idea. But then you have to be mindful of what else doesn't get done. Right. One of your strengths is your council talent. and you're in community engagement and it's also A challenge. Right? Folks like yourself sit up there and talk and respect each other and say, wow, that's a great idea, Janelle. We really should do that, right? Let's do that. Okay, let's do that. How does it fit in? And so this is. There's a lot of work that I do around governance. I don't do a lot of these planning sessions because I tend to insert myself too much to say, no, we really should talk about, so I'm not going to do that today. But I do a lot of work on governance, which is how you get stuff done. It's how you run that meeting. It's how you decide, okay, wait, That's not my role here. Okay, so I'm going to be threading this through everything we do, because I know you guys are smart enough to handle that. Next slide. And so another one, I apologize to the community for those of you. Oh, you can see it over there. Yay. Um, So I do my own PowerPoints. I'm kind of new at it. So apologies for little, you know, mistakes or whatever, but, This is another way of looking at the 90-10 rule, right? And- You know, when the pandemic happened, it actually it pivoted a bit to 80% normal stuff 20% pandemic, right? All new councils. I mean, I'm just saying, and you're all still recovering from that. But this is where it's like every day, public safety, police and fire, library services, wastewater collection, Permits and licenses, finances and budget. This is the daily stuff. This is not even improvement, right? This is just every day this stuff happens. So the 10% is these new and emerging projects, right? Um, And, Somebody mentioned scale. I think it was the mayor. It's true. So Manhattan beach is bigger where you have 36,000 people. We still think we're, we are small. You know, you still have to get the same things done for people in a 7,000 city or resident city. 36,000, 100,000, right? You just have a smaller staff. So we have to keep that in mind. And I think you, Jill, might have mentioned that projects can be great projects, but we also have to, you know, prioritize them in the list. So let's see what I said I was going to do next. Next slide. I was going to take a break. We did that. Let's keep going. Okay. Um, We're going to I just want you to These are overarching goals from the plan that was done in 2019 and it's supposed to carry through to 2026. I think that And these aren't in order of, I don't think they're an order of importance. They're an order of where they appeared in the plan. But I want you to, as a council, to take a look at these and see if there's anything on here that doesn't jive with what you guys just talked about. And if there is, I think... Let's figure out if what you talked about should be lowered on the priority or if that goal can be kind of thought about differently. I see Mr. Mayeron and Janelle. |
| 01:57:50.72 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah, so I would just say that it's up there. But with their I believe there's a clear consensus and so I'm putting it to my colleagues around infrastructure that we've talked about deferred infrastructure. We've talked about getting a grip on our infrastructure with our- |
| 01:58:06.42 | Amy Haworth | That's one of your goals up there. |
| 01:58:07.50 | Ian Sobieski | Right? But it's, let's see, where is it said? It's continually an improve and maintain infrastructure. it's there, but I kind of feel like it's a matter of emphasis more than whether it's there or not. It's a big number and it's going to take a lot of |
| 01:58:23.34 | Amy Haworth | Okay. |
| 01:58:24.20 | Ian Sobieski | assessment and talk it's about prioritizing around the |
| 01:58:26.68 | Amy Haworth | Well, 100%. And I want to get to that as well. But it is up there. |
| 01:58:28.30 | Ian Sobieski | to that. Fair enough. |
| 01:58:31.34 | Amy Haworth | Okay. I think Janelle had something in Melissa, thank you. Do you mind first names? I just was I was getting tripped up. Okay, great. |
| 01:58:35.44 | Sharna Brockett | Thank you. |
| 01:58:35.51 | Janelle Kellman | It seems like. I don't mind about it. |
| 01:58:38.75 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 01:58:38.77 | Janelle Kellman | So I guess what's missing for me here is I think we need some help on how we make decisions. And the example I'll use, and the city manager mentioned it, is when we were discussing labor, Chris suggested to us that we adopt a philosophy of, how did you describe it, Chris, of our payment for labor? |
| 01:58:58.21 | Chris Zapata | Mark it, market, market, or market. |
| 01:58:59.74 | Janelle Kellman | Right. So he urged us to say, are we a council that believes in this, right? And that, I think, at least for me, helped me get to a certain place on that vote and that decision making. We had a really big public participation on Tuesday around the ferry. We have another one that I'm sure is about to come up around our Art Center. That's a city-owned property that has debt service on it, but it also brings a unique addition to the downtown. I feel like we need some cohesion around our philosophy towards city owned property, our philosophy towards planning, our philosophy towards like something that's a more of a, the North star. The other example I'll give you in addition to SCA, which is also known as the Bank of America building is we have this grant that Chris mentioned for a bridgeway in the south part of town to do something around a median. That area is also starting to experience flooding. Do we apply a resilience lens in our planning before we do anything within 50 feet of the waterfront? I'm being a little specific, but I'm trying to just give these examples because what's going to happen is we're going to have those, at least those two items and many more come to us. But if we don't have sort of a policy about how we deliver those services, then we're just going to have these battles that we have traditionally in Sausalito. And I'm wondering if there's a way to... to focus on thematically. Our philosophy around nonprofits and city-owned land is X. Our philosophy around new planning in 50 feet of the waterfront is Y. That would help me find a North Star and some, |
| 02:00:40.03 | Amy Haworth | a thread for decision |
| 02:00:41.28 | Janelle Kellman | Okay. |
| 02:00:41.70 | Amy Haworth | making. All right. Let me hear other comments. And then I do have some ideas on that. |
| 02:00:45.80 | Melissa Blaustein | you're going to be a little bit I appreciate those comments, and I think that that's spot on. I just, in terms of the goals, I think we all just touched on disaster preparedness and emergency management, and that's not directly addressed up there. And I want to figure out a way to pull that together. |
| 02:00:59.10 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. Yeah, and I would say, I'm sorry, |
| 02:01:04.45 | Joan Cox | Joan. And you mentioned it, and some of our weaknesses and strengths made reference to it. I don't know how to frame it, but I might call it governance. So the manner in which we work together. |
| 02:01:20.66 | Amy Haworth | Yeah. |
| 02:01:20.68 | Joan Cox | Thank you. with ourselves and with the community. |
| 02:01:23.47 | Amy Haworth | Yeah. |
| 02:01:23.82 | Joan Cox | to accomplish our goals. |
| 02:01:25.85 | Amy Haworth | Yeah. If I may, and you can tell me I'm wrong, I, Good, good bodies, if you will, whether it's a school district, special districts, city council. do focus on it a lot. And they, it's called, you know, whether you call it council development, council education, Especially in this day and age, there's a lot of folks who are new. Now you have some experienced people and that's really helpful. And oh, yeah, municipal lawyer. So I'm just saying, I mean, you're a lawyer, I'm getting in your lawyer, I get it. But the municipal is complete. It's such a different beast. I'm just saying, okay, sorry. I didn't mean, I'm not choosing a favorite. I'm just pointing it out. But here's the thing. I think that's outside the scope of today and I'm not sure it's a goal. Like, I don't know if it's a goal like in your strat plan to debt, you know commit to good governance, it might be a value, it might be a protocol, it might be something if you guys are committed to that, that's a different kind of I think you do that yearly. You know, I think you do, laws change, right? things change and it What you do, what they do is so hard. It's not just that they're busy, but they're making all their decisions in public. They're having all their discussions in public. Their friends, I know it's their job, but as humans, it's super hard. They, you guys have the luxury of, they walk in a grocery store and somebody starts talking to them about the Meridian or how come you were so stupid and you interrupted, you know, Janelle when she was, you know, And it's just human nature. Sometimes we get defensive, right? You know, even the best of us, it's really hard. And so it's sort of like, you know, counseling, if you will, but it's also just tips and trades and tricks and it's really important to do. But I, so I think it's important for all of you To me, it doesn't feel like a strat plan goal. |
| 02:03:26.10 | Joan Cox | Yeah. I understand. But, you know, Jill mentioned Brown Act, for example. We get criticism from the community regarding the manner in which we deliberate and debate on various items on the diet. Okay. |
| 02:03:26.92 | Amy Haworth | Bye. Bye. |
| 02:03:38.65 | Amy Haworth | Okay. Thank you. |
| 02:03:39.12 | Joan Cox | And so I really do THE FAMILY IS personally perceive it as a goal to improve Um, the manner in which we govern, whether it again be adhering to the Brown Act. not disclosing something that happened in closed session inadvertently, not announcing how we're going to vote on something in advance of the vote. |
| 02:03:58.13 | Amy Haworth | Yeah. |
| 02:04:03.10 | Joan Cox | So just some basic tools I think would be helpful to us. So for me, it really is a goal, but I do agree with you. It's also a value. |
| 02:04:13.25 | Amy Haworth | Okay. |
| 02:04:13.40 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
| 02:04:13.48 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. Did somebody else have their hand up before? Okay. If I were sitting where you're sitting, I do think what Melissa said is something to really consider because six, seven or 20, 20, 2019, when you got when some of you did this. While you put climate resilience or climate change resiliency, you must have did with infrastructure, right? And everything has changed. The intensity of the climate impacts, right, and the climate change. every year it's just more intense. So if I were you, I would consider adding that or in some way as a goal, because a lot of the things that we talked about, you guys are really vulnerable as a low-lying coastal community with your hills and then earthquakes that we can't determine and forest fires that we never thought. That, I think this is the time and I I apologize. I just said not to, It- It's the kind of thing that you would talk about. Yes, we agree that could be a goal. And then you don't have to like change your strat plan right now. But everything we do when we start prioritizing some of these things, will play into that and then maybe later at a councilman you would adopt it as an additional Strat plan goal. Does that make sense? We're not ripping it apart. Jill. |
| 02:05:31.06 | Jill Hoffman | I think. I think it would be helpful for us and staff, community, everybody. If. to, just to build on something Councilmember Kelman said. was if we could get to the point where we agree on some objective criteria for what is a priority. And if it doesn't meet that objective criteria, like maybe three things. Our priorities for 2024 are One, two, and three. And believe me, three is plenty. Because of the limited time that we have for council time and staff time. And if it doesn't fit within those three categories, whatever the objective criteria is collectively, then then it might be a worthy project, but, and council members and the public, everybody's, and we, believe me, we all do this, where, We feel strongly about our project, but we don't necessarily take up Council time or staff time, we get it off the ground and running. outside of the staff time and then present maybe a completed project or maybe a close to completed project. to that's already mostly baked out, right, without using staff time. without using council time. So, I think that would be make it I don't know if we can, but That would make it really clear and easy, I think, for us to decide what's on an agenda and what isn't, what merits our time and what doesn't. |
| 02:06:50.32 | Amy Haworth | Yeah. And I did mean to... address what Janelle said because Again. So criteria to me is a little bit different than priorities or criteria or goals, and both are important, right? So like if you had the three, If our goals are we don't want people forced out of their homes because of the climate or whatever. But I think a criteria for me is, well, are you looking at this through a financial lens? Are you looking through this as a climate change lens, a DEIC lens? |
| 02:07:20.36 | Scott Thornburg | England. |
| 02:07:21.40 | Amy Haworth | And the problem with agreeing on those is that not everyone's going to agree. Like for some of you, your priority is going to be, no, this is about financial stability. Now, they often overlap, right? But maybe you want to come up with a list of five lenses Just and it's not something you vote on and you agree on and you have to hold each other to that. Maybe it would be valuable because that was one of my slides earlier on that I skipped over. um, Sorry, I just have to laugh at myself, but what is the lens, right? What is the lens? And so And it doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. Right. But Sometimes, and it's helpful to understand, right? And, and, I think that will really play into how you prioritize the goals for this year. Yes, Mr. Mayor. |
| 02:08:11.10 | Ian Sobieski | I also just have a question for you and my colleagues and just everyone to think about, which is how do you strike the balance from a governance point of view? about low-hanging, easy, small things that make a big difference. My colleague Jill was like, where's the half and half? Small thing makes a big difference. I'd like half and half my coffee too. Kieran Culligan started the meeting by holding up a donut and saying, why are we spending money on donuts? Small thing makes a big difference, easy to do. When I think we have a sculpture that means a lot to the city, the Sausalito Sea Lion. It's a small thing. Maybe. But it's taking staff time. Might take interaction with another mutual agency. It might require city council action. Certainly doesn't affect our resiliency or our financial stability, but it's kind of a big thing. |
| 02:08:46.84 | Amy Haworth | Maybe. |
| 02:08:59.24 | Unknown | No, but... |
| 02:09:01.64 | Ian Sobieski | So we have a lot of little things that I think culturally we could either consider and dispatch quickly because they're low hanging fruit. But they're actually not in the admittedly, none of them are in the top essential items. And yet we want to take care of them because man doesn't humans don't live by bread alone. Right. You you you do have. Other things. |
| 02:09:21.37 | Amy Haworth | You've got to have the bread in order to have the statute. Yep. So you've got to take |
| 02:09:23.53 | Ian Sobieski | So you got to take care of those things. So that's the question. |
| 02:09:24.66 | Amy Haworth | of those things. So that's the question. I would say, and I'd be interested in your colleagues' comments, but Karen Hollweg, I would say the how or is you were for a Council Member to say this is easy for staff to do. is you may not understand. It does sound easy. Right. but it may not be. You've got a coastal commission that oversees things and that causes interaction. There's, I think that you, have to you trust your city manager and his fabulous staff to say how it gets done. And so... And yeah, you don't want to just be the folks up there that are just Money, money, money. check, you know, climate, climate, climate check. But. And also, a lot of these projects probably have advocacy groups or tied to them. which then which is great, right? And a lot of times community driven projects, that's the only way to get them done. And that's great, but that is also what takes so much time. And because you need to listen to that public. Staff needs to staff that commission. And it is government work is really, deliberate, methodical, and actually for a reason. Right, like I was driving by, what is it that, maybe this is a bad example, but when I was in San Francisco, I drove by the Salesforce building, is that the one that's sort of having some problems? |
| 02:10:53.28 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:10:53.86 | Amy Haworth | See, I knew I'd get it wrong, but But that's it. And I don't know that this is the reason you're having problems, but I was thinking about it because when we think of innovation and we think of especially Silicon Valley, which is probably a strength for your area. We think of, oh, you know, there has to be innovative ways to do things. And, you know, why are all these permits and all these things? What's this process? And what's this? Because government's job is at the end of the day, protect people. government's job is not to make profits, although you don't also want to be, you know, not financially stable. So, You know, you have to be really methodical and slow and plotting, in my opinion. And that's that's just me. So I think that you should have some fun things that you get done because there should be joy. And there's a lot of it's so beautiful. Anyway, you were going to say something. |
| 02:11:44.64 | Joan Cox | I just want my opinion. Yes, I just wanted to add on to what the mayor said. Interestingly, the Sausalito Sea Lion could fit under Strengthen Our Community Identity, which is one of our goals. |
| 02:11:54.90 | Scott Thornburg | 100%. |
| 02:11:56.95 | Joan Cox | Also interestingly, a lot of the work that has been done for the Sausalito sea lion demonstrates one of our greatest strengths, which is our community involvement. So our mayor, former mayor, swam back and forth to Alcatraz to raise money. |
| 02:12:10.79 | Amy Haworth | THE END OF THE END OF THE Which one? Oh yeah, you. |
| 02:12:20.02 | Joan Cox | to restore the sea lion and has spearheaded fundraising efforts to restore the sea lions. When there's something that's important to each of us, we often engage the community and volunteer our time beyond the time we spend on the dais. |
| 02:12:34.87 | Amy Haworth | Right. |
| 02:12:37.77 | Joan Cox | Thank you. to advance things of that nature. And so I think we are mindful and respectful of staffing management constraints. And so when we do advocate for special projects, if you will, we often invest more of our own time. |
| 02:12:54.90 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. And Jill mentioned that too, right? Like it's all this time outside and that's great. And so I'm not trying to say you can't do that, right? But I am trying to say, what do you want staff to focus on? What this is, is what should staff focus their time on? Yeah. |
| 02:13:10.09 | Janelle Kellman | I'll just note that the mayor, when he articulated this example, said, well, it's not infrastructure, but it also doesn't cost the city any money. that thereby actually creating a bucket of criteria for vetting a particular project. And Chris, you do this often as well. This is under $30,000. That's my purview, right? And so when you helped us with Willow Creek and put up a sign, right, to say that there's the creek, it didn't cost, I mean, it was less than this 30,000. So I still think it goes back to having some objective criteria to help us, at least as a conversation, guardrails for us, because we know we have some harder things coming up. What's our shared philosophy? And if we can create some objective, now we're gonna have outliers for sure, but at least as a starting point for dialogue. |
| 02:13:55.13 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:13:55.18 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 02:13:55.20 | Amy Haworth | you |
| 02:13:56.01 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 02:13:56.02 | Amy Haworth | Okay. Yeah. You guys want to engage in that? Yeah. |
| 02:14:01.64 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 02:14:03.11 | Amy Haworth | So I think it's the... |
| 02:14:06.88 | Jill Hoffman | I think it's interesting that going back to the use of staff time, right? And we really have no concept. of how many hours A staff has to do their main job. Right. all their list of projects. And then when we come up with a special project, How much of that? you know, to the point of Amy's point, how much that's actually going to take away from regular staff time. So I think it might be helpful when we first engage with the city manager about how much staff time is this sea lion going to take? How much time did the sign take? You know, you may be surprised at how much time it actually takes. We also have, you know, so if you say I only have 40 hours in the week. or I mean, a really great example is the ferry landing, right? At one point, Kevin said 70% of his time was being spent on that one project. I got a thumbs up from Kevin. That's our public works director. That's really expensive time. Every hour that he spends on some other project is an hour he's not spending on Edwards Avenue. Or he's also our city engineer. So he's not spending time on our landslide, our priority project that we submitted back in our priority list in 2019, right? I mean, the discipline of ourselves as a council saying, I would rather the staff work on these bigger issues for which they're well trained and well educated as opposed to inserting a seal or not saying that that's not a bad, not, I'm not denigrating that sea lion, sea lion. Right. God, I always get that wrong. |
| 02:15:43.08 | Unknown | Sea lion. |
| 02:15:45.44 | Jill Hoffman | A sea lion, right? But here's the point. The point is, we have really engaged community. We have people in our community who have contacts at, at the coastal commission or not the coastal commission at BCDC. We have contacts. We haven't enabled them to do that, but, the discipline of this council should shift to if I have a small project. right, that can be easily achieved staff time is not Unending. you're taking the staff away from the other very important work that they're not getting done. You know, an assessment from our city manager when we as a council engage and say, I think, you know, city manager during our weekly calls, which are. robust conversations, if you're with me, Chris, and I thank you for your patience. |
| 02:16:31.24 | Amy Haworth | for all of them. |
| 02:16:33.57 | Jill Hoffman | Is, you know, a sense of that's a great project. I'm not saying that's not a great project. That's going to take probably 20 hours of staff time. That's half a week. away from other priorities that that staff should be working on. So that I think would be helpful and helpful with the council to be disciplined. And then we know to reach back to our other but our other groups in town, right? So the Sea Lion, the Sausalio Foundation, right? Those guys are engaged, man. I'm getting weekly emails from those guys. Those guys have been around for 100 years, some of them. And You know, honestly. But they have contacts everywhere. And if you empower them and say, great, can you help with this, whatever. |
| 02:17:04.33 | Unknown | Honestly, I'm not. |
| 02:17:08.53 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:17:10.42 | Jill Hoffman | So anyway, that's a long response, but that I think |
| 02:17:11.17 | Unknown | you Anyway, |
| 02:17:11.86 | Scott Thornburg | THE END OF |
| 02:17:13.76 | Jill Hoffman | goes back to What's the criteria for deciding what's a priority? and do you fall into these three criteria? Great project. Let's figure out a different way to do it other than using our very expensive staff time. |
| 02:17:26.74 | Amy Haworth | Okay, great. And before Joan, and thank you. And I hope people didn't think I was bagging on the sea lion project. I'm just, but... So, I hear some criteria bubbling up and staff time is one of them. I also don't want to, so the sea lion project. So if you're going to put a statue, a sculpture, There is staff time involved because it is engineering. It is permits. There's stuff. There is stuff that happens. It's not impossible. It's not hard. I see everyone loves the sea line. That's happening. I can tell. But anyway, Joan. |
| 02:18:05.47 | Joan Cox | Chris hates it when I say this, but we have a 30-year experienced city manager. And I do not consider it my role. |
| 02:18:10.15 | Amy Haworth | you |
| 02:18:13.42 | Joan Cox | to manage how Chris manages the staff. That's right. So I absolutely agree that staff time should be a lens, perhaps, and a factor. But it's not up to me to tell Chris how much staff time should be allocated to any or whether any. So he has a relationship himself with our community, with the Marin IJ, with our regional leaders. He's the chair of the of the city managers group. Wow. He's a member of the board of the Chamber of Commerce. So he has his finger on the pulse. And I do not want to. deprive him of his judgment in... |
| 02:19:00.75 | Amy Haworth | His allocation is innings. |
| 02:19:01.58 | Joan Cox | in allocating scarce resources. |
| 02:19:04.75 | Amy Haworth | I hope that I didn't communicate because I don't think, I think staff |
| 02:19:09.29 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:19:09.31 | Amy Haworth | Microphone, sorry. I hope I didn't miscommunicate. I absolutely agree with you. but I think staff time may be a criteria. It's not that you're going to direct staff and say this should only take 20 hours or whatever. But That is so something and allow me indulge this indulgence. So at our city council, at the end of every meeting, there's a future agenda bullet. And so if I want to put on the sea lion statue, Thank you. I say, I'd like to bring this forward to another meeting and I need to get one other person to agree to bring it forward. Then at the next meeting or two meetings, staff will say, well, we can come back to you in two meetings. They give us a very, very, very, very, very high level report. Just in thinking about this, these are the agencies that would be involved. These are the staff members that would be involved. And it's a a short, medium, long-term project, or a little bit of a rough, rough, rough, sorry Bowie, estimate of time. Right? So then we need three more. Then we need three votes to bring it forward for a full report. So then you kind of, and I'm not saying you do that. It's kind of cumbersome to me, but it also allows staff And you may say, I don't care if it's a thousand hours. This is really important. Just a thought. So what I think though, I, yes, yes, sir. |
| 02:20:34.44 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah, sorry. I just raised my hand for. |
| 02:20:35.17 | Amy Haworth | No, no, sorry. |
| 02:20:38.44 | Ian Sobieski | I do think it was helpful, that little dialogue, to bubble up and articulate some criteria that might end up in our thinking. Thank you. But I wanted just to add one, which is to be cognizant of what a little bit of staff time might unlock. That should be another part of the equation. So in terms of, say, for example, our volunteers, whether it's the Sausalito Foundation or the Economic Development Advisory Committee or the Sausalito Historical Society, these groups of volunteers might put in the lion's share of the effort, 90%, let's say, an iceberg, |
| 02:20:44.91 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:21:10.27 | Ian Sobieski | of the work. but it does need 10%. to get the work done. |
| 02:21:14.91 | Unknown | Right. |
| 02:21:15.21 | Ian Sobieski | And if they don't have that partner in the city, then all that work and the ability to manifest is lost, similarly on grants. And so it shouldn't just be, in our thinking, the criteria of what the cost is. It's also what the potential benefit is whether or not it's highly leveraged work. And many of the grants, for example, I know that my colleague, General Kellman, is cutting new trail on trying to apply for many grants for resiliency for the city. There are other buckets of grants you can apply for, including those, and that kind of work unlocks money, but that money often needs a partner in the city. |
| 02:21:30.47 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:21:30.72 | Scott Thornburg | Yeah. |
| 02:21:49.64 | Amy Haworth | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:21:50.04 | Ian Sobieski | to finally pull the money all the way |
| 02:21:52.20 | Amy Haworth | Well, you kind of need a project first too. And you're lucky that you have, all of you are so willing to dedicate your professional resources, if you will, and your, your skills and talents to unlocking community involvement or other kinds of ways. But as a governance thing. And I want you to think about these decisions that you're making. And they're not decisions today. These are ideas, right? And you will decide upon them. Um, Why don't we do this? Why don't we... Like I say, I don't think you can lock down what criteria is because I think that it will shift. And sometimes there's two or three different things, but why don't we, and I'll move over there. just go around the room a couple of times and list what your criteria may be. And it's gonna be, Again, this is not a big, it's, It's fiscal, it's environmental, it's emergent or public safety, right? I haven't heard that actually come up. However, what police and fire do is greatly impacted by climate change too, right? And so Let's just do that and you'll understand. This is nothing that we're going to codify, but I think it'll help with some understanding. I'm going to move over to my very professional whiteboard over there. |
| 02:23:06.32 | Melissa Blaustein | I'm sorry, I just want to clarify because I think there's my concern is that we'll say all the things that we're worried about again like we're all worried about climate change and public safety and we'll list them off, but I think what Councilmember Kelman and Hoffman are trying to get us to is like. cost, staff time. There's a difference between the requirements that we fulfill and the lens. So which ones are you wanting us to answer for here? |
| 02:23:30.72 | Amy Haworth | That's 100%, you're 100% right. I want to, is it cost, is it staff time? Yeah. That's a hunt. Thank you. Okay, thanks. Okay. So. Uh, Why don't we start, Janelle? you Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:23:46.75 | Janelle Kellman | Happy to have. |
| 02:23:47.97 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:23:53.55 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, so the criteria that I often think about is long-term resilience, which just for benefit everybody sometimes just means infrastructure. Sometimes it means climate resilience, but it means how long can our infrastructure respond to an event? Can our storm drains respond? Can our sewer conveyances respond when they get overwhelmed? So it's a lens to a variety of things. I think about public safety. I think about financial impact. And by the way, our staff reports almost always at the end say financial impact. And I've been looking for assessments there and I haven't been seeing any information. And I think that's a missing element for us. It's a rigor that we need to apply to our staff reports. I think resident benefit and I think business benefit And then ultimately... Correct. Yep. And then ultimately I think staff time. |
| 02:24:59.97 | Amy Haworth | Maybe an actor. Thank you. that now that you have a robust I had to hurt you now. that that could be something that would be helpful you |
| 02:25:14.40 | Joan Cox | um, The mayor and I sit on the agenda setting committee and A goal we shared with the city manager a week ago is that every staff report identify what strategic plan goal is being advanced by the project. And each of the things that Janelle mentioned, you know, environmental resilience, many of the things Janelle mentioned are already part of our strategic plan goals. So a nice way to sort of encapsulate some of our lenses is to identify how this proposed idea advances our strategic plan. So, and Yeah. And then I totally endorse the financial and staff time, obviously. |
| 02:26:22.39 | Melissa Blaustein | I would add just immediate safety and security, because if there's an emergency event and we need to make it a priority, or if there's an immediate concern that arises, I think that that's an important criteria as well. |
| 02:26:33.90 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
| 02:26:37.61 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. obviously echo the resilience piece and what others have said. |
| 02:26:41.93 | Ian Sobieski | I'd add I guess maybe it was articulated benefit versus cost, but really giving some equal room to benefit, because we often do have the fiscal cost as part of the staff reports, but we often don't articulate a sort of whiteboard or greenfield assessment of the benefit. Did you- |
| 02:27:01.71 | Melissa Blaustein | or the other. I just thought of one more. |
| 02:27:05.30 | Ian Sobieski | Okay. It just came to me. Can I just finish mine? I'm sorry. I didn't know you were talking to me. No, I just want one other. Because I think this word is important. It would be leverage. Leverage, meaning if you invest one unit of something, that's staff time, or one unit of $1 of city money, what do you potentially unlock? So low-hanging fruit for me was, you know, if we could spend one hour of staff time and $1 of city money and unlock a thousand hours of volunteer time and $10 million of someone else's money, that seems like a project that would, I would think of differently than one that required thousands of hours of staff time or, |
| 02:27:06.82 | Melissa Blaustein | I'm sorry, I didn't know you were talking about it. |
| 02:27:43.78 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. It's a wonderful, it is. I think also getting real estate idea of |
| 02:27:52.62 | Ian Sobieski | Absolutely. That would be the cost. But just to assess in addition to that, the leverage. But that's the benefit because the same project, you have two projects that have the same benefit. One could involve, and actually, but one could involve a lot of leverage, which is how much outside of city staff and city money, how much extra |
| 02:28:05.19 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
| 02:28:14.34 | Ian Sobieski | human, what you call human hours, and how much extra money would potentially be unlocked. This is, applying for grants, for instance. |
| 02:28:23.91 | Melissa Blaustein | Just given our insurance situation, something about risk, legal or along those lines. I don't know how to articulate that. I would welcome recommendations. |
| 02:28:34.43 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:28:34.49 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. |
| 02:28:34.57 | Amy Haworth | What is at risk? You know, because sometimes there are things that we decide, and, you know, city attorneys are so important. Oh, my God. Thank you. |
| 02:28:44.12 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. It doesn't mitigate rent. It doesn't. Right. So I actually have a question for the mayor. So you made two points and I want to just understand them, be curious about them. The first is you said the cost benefit. Is that a financial cost benefit or are you talking about another type of benefit is my first of two questions. |
| 02:28:54.20 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:29:05.22 | Janelle Kellman | Go ahead. |
| 02:29:05.74 | Ian Sobieski | both. You can do a financial cost benefit, but you could do both. The cost isn't, there are two costs, I guess, roughly speaking, money and time. We've been talking about that. And benefits can be money and a bunch of qualitative things. Resilience, which you could, of course, quantify, but at the end of the day, you're also talking about saving lives. And we don't want to put dollar figures on people's lives. So if you reduce fire danger, if you do, if you undergrounding, you can specify a cost of that. How do you specify the cost of saving someone's life? You could say it's infinite. The insurance companies say it's a number. You know, we humans try to think about that. And so I just think there are a lot of benefits that could be articulated so that we at least know they, in a sense, are comparing apples to oranges. But if you say we're spending a million dollars, but 5,000 people are happier. You can't say that that balances out, but you can at least acknowledge both things because both things are true. |
| 02:30:03.62 | Janelle Kellman | So that sort of leads to my second question, which is, how do I know 5,000 people are happier? I know I have more money in the bank. I know a permit gets issued. I know sales tax goes up. But I don't know 5,000 people are happier, which goes so to your second comment that you made around if $1 in one hour unlocks $1 million in a million hours. Any thoughts on how we might from a very quantitative perspective measure that? Because what I'm looking for is us to find some agreed upon our own objective design standards, right? |
| 02:30:37.49 | Ian Sobieski | It's funny I just laugh at that because I'm the engineer. That's the way I'm supposed to be thinking about the work. |
| 02:30:41.30 | Janelle Kellman | I'm just thinking- |
| 02:30:42.03 | Unknown | the worst, but I've got a |
| 02:30:44.15 | Ian Sobieski | See, so that's so funny because I think that's such a great question, Janelle. I love it because I think that's why there are five of us. And to be on this council, we have to be residents. We have to be part of the community. And we just make qualitative assessments at the end of the day. And we could be wrong. But at the end of the day, I don't think there's anything wrong with reflecting our community and our own hearts by saying this feels right. This feels like it's better and it's worth the money. And, you know, so how do you assess that 5,000 people are happier? I think you can do, you know, the customer service people do that all the time with little scales, and we can have some kind of criteria like that. But at the end of the day, honestly, I feel like it's worth acknowledging that we are always on this dais unless we want to be engineers and run everything by the numbers, like some Soviet commissar. We need to instead embrace the kind of American principle of pursuit of happiness. And it's in the it's in the Constitution. Happiness. |
| 02:31:41.65 | Janelle Kellman | Look, I'm a glass half-full person generally, so I'm normally pretty happy. I only mention it because this is where this council runs into trouble with one another because we measure happiness differently and we measure what will create that happiness differently. And if I said, Blue Economy Innovation Zone and the Maroon Ship, and that would make me so happy. I think it'd make a lot of people happy. Am I going to get full council buy-in on it? No. You're going to make me go through the RFP, phase it out, figure out all the, like, when's it going to come back? What's it going to come? Right? That's, I think, something we need to troubleshoot. That's where we run into an issue is when We don't know how to quantify that. Thank you. |
| 02:32:23.01 | Ian Sobieski | Do we run into the trouble, or is that a healthy debate that we just shouldn't feel bad about? I think we bring contempt to that conversation, and if the community does, then that is negative. But if we do wrestle with what makes us happy and kind of qualitative, like the sea lion makes us happy, then that brings us to, you know, we can sort that out. I kind of think that's what elections are for. That's what public comment's for. We kind of wrestle with it. We agree that, you know, some people like tomatoes. Some people like tomatoes. It's impossible that Capri |
| 02:32:51.41 | Janelle Kellman | It's impossible to capture in a strategic plan is kind of what I'm getting at. So we can agree on that, that there's going to be this very subjective component to our decision making. But let's plan for it in a conversation around criteria or strategic planning. |
| 02:33:06.85 | Ian Sobieski | I agree. I agree with that. You know, but yeah, I agree with that. And even the Supreme Court and others, you know, you lawyers use these standards like reason. You lawyers use these standards like reasonable, like reasonable. What's reasonable? It's actually baked into the law. |
| 02:33:24.31 | Unknown | I think you have to, I think. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:33:33.63 | Jill Hoffman | So I think, interesting conversation up here. I think that it's really interesting that we received as part of this, uh, uh, Yearly. plan. and that chart of what's in each of our meetings for the rest of the year. And so, And so I think we have a finite amount of time to address things. And so when we're talking about you know, bringing us back to and focusing back on what council spends our time on and what staff spends their time on and how do we prioritize that When you look at our schedule for the rest of the year, we have maybe 18 or 20 meetings left for the rest of the year. We're spending four and a half hours today on a Saturday morning. Beautiful Saturday morning. Got here at eight o'clock. I got up at six. Noelle was here at 430 in the morning. Setting this up. So the value of our time and what we're focused on and how we move forward throughout the year, I think is really important. And it gets even more focused when you look at the time we have available and the things that we have to do throughout the year with regard to EIR, with regard to our ordinance updates, with regard to these things that we have, you know, by law we have to do And then, what does council focus our time on other than that I think that's Maybe when you're talking about lens, like that's a very That's a pretty set lens to look at. It might help us focus. |
| 02:34:55.96 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:34:56.10 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:34:56.32 | Amy Haworth | So I think you're also maybe going into the governance realm again, because I think what you're talking about the quality quantity of your discussions at the dais right and. And sometimes it's not. a lot of us try to keep, and I'm not talking about you folks, this is my experience, keep trying to convince somebody that my approach is right, my answer is right. And sometimes the discussion, and I think what I heard from somebody in the community is these discussions. It's not that the sea line isn't important, but is it a two hour discussion at a council meeting? I don't know that it was, you know, I don't, I'm not judging or saying that, but I think We're trying to say that the core mission, the core mission of your city is public safety, actually, and emergency safety issues are gonna have to take precedence. So the core mission, Right. And then it's programs for people. It's how you serve your people. And so I think that And you, so you do have all these resources, whether it's the SCA or all these other things. And I think, But it's about the quality of your discussions and It's about how do you get to consensus and a decision and move on. Right. Because that's also affecting your time and staff time. And if you leave a meeting and staff doesn't have clear direction, that they should go spend 30 hours on this or this or that, that's a problem. I don't know if that is a problem, but that's a problem. I like all these criteria. Some of them are different. Um, And I think, and we touched so lightly on your strategic plan goals. But I want us to also move forward with looking at the threats that were identified, the very end with the council and the city manager, as well as your future agenda items. And we're going to try to actually prioritize some of those future agenda agenda items, because as you identified, does everybody have sorry, does everybody on the dais have the council calendar. Cause that's what you're calling it. Right. |
| 02:37:12.38 | Melissa Blaustein | but you're calling it. Thank you. And we can put it up on there too. We can. |
| 02:37:14.81 | Amy Haworth | Nope. We can. Bye. |
| 02:37:17.24 | Melissa Blaustein | Bye. TODAY. It's in there. |
| 02:37:25.15 | Melissa Blaustein | Isn't it in the printout too? Thank you. No. Is that our seat? |
| 02:37:32.87 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:37:33.54 | Melissa Blaustein | You have it right there. Oh, not the calendar, but you have this blue thing. Janelle doesn't even have the blue thing. She didn't get one of these. |
| 02:37:39.58 | Unknown | My daughter's going to be writing me |
| 02:37:42.42 | Unknown | We just call this council calendar. The council priority agenda. Thank you. |
| 02:37:47.06 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 02:37:47.08 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:37:47.58 | Amy Haworth | Is it 20? I have that too. We did. Next slide. |
| 02:37:47.60 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:37:50.23 | Melissa Blaustein | Love out. I'll take him in a minute. |
| 02:37:54.82 | Amy Haworth | I know you probably can't read that. |
| 02:37:57.69 | Melissa Blaustein | It's also good. |
| 02:37:58.09 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. But I also, which also says. Would you go out? I'm here. But I also, I'm going to pass out. We're going to do an exercise around all of them. |
| 02:38:01.60 | Unknown | laughter. Thank you. |
| 02:38:06.68 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. Let's take five minutes. |
| 02:38:13.45 | Ian Sobieski | going to move the public comment in about an hour or so. So we'll take a five minute break. |
| 02:38:22.02 | Amy Haworth | little break because I tried to look through everybody's threats that they listed. Um, And I came up with some buckets. of commonalities, which we're not going to address right now, but I want it in front of you. Um, There's a lot of things I left off and we'll address that in a minute or two or three. Do we have up there? Yeah, our future agenda items. So you can see them over there. Now there was in somebody's notes, there were two things on this list that that were dependent on some court case. And so they're sort of waiting. Mr. C. Manager, do you know which could you remind me of those two? |
| 02:39:08.67 | Chris Zapata | The city attorney can speak to the two that we have that are waiting, I think. Sergio, are you on? |
| 02:39:15.50 | Sergio Rudin | Yes. Yeah, no, one of them happens to be potentially implementing reach codes. That is still pending. The Ninth Circuit recently ruled that federal law preempts a lot of reach code ordinances that allow cities to ban new natural gas infrastructure as part of construction. Actually, just a few weeks ago, the Ninth Circuit, and I were hearing in Bonk. I expect that that decision is going to be further appealed to the Supreme Court by the city of Berkeley. So that is still ongoing, but you know, it is. |
| 02:39:52.35 | Amy Haworth | I think I might have even taken that off my list because of that. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. The other one, there was another one, right? |
| 02:39:58.67 | Sergio Rudin | that's the one I'm aware of. And is there another one you are... |
| 02:40:04.52 | Amy Haworth | I thought there was something about either hillside or landside that was waiting that had something pending. Um, But let's just proceed if you're not aware of it. |
| 02:40:12.89 | Janelle Kellman | and he'll talk So, |
| 02:40:13.58 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:40:13.62 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 02:40:13.63 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:40:13.65 | Janelle Kellman | THE CITY IS A CITY IS |
| 02:40:14.04 | Amy Haworth | There's something that's pending. |
| 02:40:16.11 | Sergio Rudin | And that is on the chart on your screen right now. |
| 02:40:18.76 | Amy Haworth | Yes, I know. And so but what I'm saying is when we talk about prioritizing these, just keep in mind, that that is something that we can't you guys can't actually act on right now because of the pending case is that correct that they would not be able to act on it if there's a pending case? |
| 02:40:36.13 | Sergio Rudin | I'm not aware of any pending litigation that would prevent the city from undertaking a new hillside ordinance. The issue is, is Due to the housing crisis act, you know, the city has to be mindful in terms of adopting any new standards that are not objective standards that curtail development and the city can't reduce the intensity of housing development. Okay. The housing crisis act. |
| 02:40:59.55 | Amy Haworth | Thank you for that. And thank you for, since I don't live here, understanding that. So what I think would be really helpful Um, These are all very valuable, valid things, projects. Now I'm about to ask you to go with your gut and we're gonna, you know, you're gonna physically take index cards that I cut at Kinko's last night. And you're going to try to narrow down your top um, projects. That doesn't. Well, I'm going to take you through the exercise, but basically we're going to try and narrow these down. That doesn't mean something's falling off the list. That does not mean we're discarding it. That doesn't mean anything except I think it'd be helpful and I want staff to do it as well. Now, you are not going to be able to make this decision with the criteria of how much staff time does it take, right? Because you don't know, you're not getting a full report. We don't know how much it's going to cost, right? And that is an issue, but... you will figure that out through a budgeting process. But what I want y'all to do is From your own personal lenses, whatever that criteria may be, I'm going to be giving you some index cards. And we're going to start to prioritize this now. there may be something that's not on here when we get down to our There's no way we're going to get to three. We might get to five. But. Let's just work with me here for a little bit. And I'm going to give you time. Okay, so I'm going to pass out. Cards. |
| 02:42:32.23 | Ian Sobieski | I'm sorry to interrupt, Amy. Please do. |
| 02:42:34.88 | Amy Haworth | Please, Drew. Thank you. |
| 02:42:35.45 | Ian Sobieski | but Joan just mentioned it and I did too, that there are several things missing on this list. |
| 02:42:41.24 | Amy Haworth | From the future agenda list? |
| 02:42:43.20 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:42:43.72 | Ian Sobieski | I mean, |
| 02:42:44.53 | Joan Cox | I got this from staff. So whenever someone asks for something to be addressed, we place it on a future agenda items list. That does not mean these are our top future agenda items to be addressed. These represent various requests from community members, from individuals. uh, council members, this is not in any, this does not, there are many things that we already know are in the hopper and pending are going to be coming forward. Right. Aren't on here. Right. And so |
| 02:43:18.26 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:43:19.24 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 02:43:19.56 | Amy Haworth | And that I understand. We're not paring those down. But if we were to to Jill's point about To Jill's point that you have a full calendar of important things that you're doing. |
| 02:43:34.61 | Ian Sobieski | So these are in addition to- |
| 02:43:34.68 | Amy Haworth | I'm not sure. These are in addition. |
| 02:43:37.21 | Ian Sobieski | So things like our property condition assessment is not on here. The 10-year financial condition. |
| 02:43:42.73 | Amy Haworth | But is that on the agenda? Is that in the calendar? |
| 02:43:46.17 | Ian Sobieski | different. |
| 02:43:46.78 | Amy Haworth | So that's still coming. |
| 02:43:48.32 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:43:48.59 | Amy Haworth | So The thing is, this is out there. |
| 02:43:51.91 | Ian Sobieski | This is just working on this. Another way of thinking about it is we're just working on this list right now. Just in its own box. This is a list of priorities. |
| 02:43:55.17 | Amy Haworth | We're just working on this right now. |
| 02:44:00.33 | Amy Haworth | Because right now, as people who set an agenda, as staff, they're like, what else is coming out here? What else is coming? And this is not taking a place. This is not taking a place of stuff that is on that calendar. |
| 02:44:12.64 | Ian Sobieski | calendar. This is not a comprehensive list of all our to-dos. You're just asking us among these things to stack rank. |
| 02:44:18.24 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:44:18.27 | Joan Cox | Right. Because this is an example. For example, revising our zoning ordinance. |
| 02:44:19.23 | Amy Haworth | because, you know, |
| 02:44:25.07 | Joan Cox | is something we have to do, and it's by statute, by, you know, And it's not on this list and it's not in the calendar. you |
| 02:44:34.74 | Amy Haworth | Mr. City Manager, |
| 02:44:35.79 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:44:35.82 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:44:35.85 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:44:35.97 | Amy Haworth | TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE |
| 02:44:36.04 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:44:36.06 | Amy Haworth | Yeah. |
| 02:44:37.22 | Chris Zapata | Yeah. And that's why we have these kinds of conversations. What are we missing? What are we missing? And if we are missing them and, you know, we have people here from staff that know these things and we should plug them in. And this calendar is fluid. Obviously, it's going to change given certain things. But the future agenda items that you see up there, those are things you've asked for in council meetings. and that's the list of things that council directly asks for what you have on the 12 month lookout or the work plan or the calendar of things that council directly asked for what you have on the 12 month lookout or the work plan or the calendar are things that we believe you know we need to have ready to go that are not on that list and maybe on that list but the second uh piece of information which is the 12 months is actually more comprehensive this is what you have and asked for in recent meetings over the past six six months to a year |
| 02:45:23.78 | Joan Cox | Right, but some of the things that are on this list is because a community member said, hey, I have a question about such and so. put that on the, it doesn't mean it's a council priority It's a council to be addressed at some point in the future as a we are available, but what's missing is Prioritizing your calendar. |
| 02:45:45.97 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:45:46.27 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah, the way I heard it is set aside all. We know there are other priorities that are not on this list, but here's a sheet of paper that staff, |
| 02:45:53.67 | Joan Cox | Well, let me ask you. |
| 02:45:53.78 | Ian Sobieski | Well, let me ask you. And let's just stop drink this. |
| 02:45:54.73 | Joan Cox | you not drink this. Implementing the housing element, I think as a council, we agree is a top priority and implementing the housing element. We have the ODDS here. but in the calendar, but we do not have, and we have approval of the EIR related to the housing element, but we do not have Any of the work necessary to update our zoning ordinance, which we're going to have to put two ballot initiatives on the ballot. And none of that is reflected in the calendar or in this future agenda item. Okay. And that's a huge lift in terms of staff time. And I believe there's consensus that that's a huge priority for the council. Yeah, great catch. |
| 02:46:37.10 | Amy Haworth | Yes, I can pivot, but go ahead, |
| 02:46:40.04 | Jill Hoffman | So I think, yeah, I think this is identified sort of a failure in our, the council's input and what our future agendas are. So I think that's clear, right? Like this is a wish list that somehow is compiled with anything anybody says goes on it. But to your sort of sharing of how you've done it in the past with other groups is that there's no interim. |
| 02:46:57.74 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
| 02:46:57.76 | Unknown | And I- |
| 02:46:58.06 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
| 02:47:04.25 | Jill Hoffman | evaluation. about, okay, here's our total wish list, what's the pipeline for something that's actually the agenda from the full council, right? Like we don't have that step. That's a failure that we have at the city council level that we don't have that step and sometimes things that are on our agenda are complete surprise to people that are not on the agenda setting committee, which in, you know, I I'm saying this is probably a historic failure that it's not just, you're not, you're not taking it in person. Yeah, no, no, no, it's not just this, but it's, it's a lack of transparency, even amongst the council. |
| 02:47:27.90 | Amy Haworth | You're not your counsel. you No. |
| 02:47:36.60 | Amy Haworth | I have to say it's a bit of a relief because I mean, I think it's a little bit unclear and I think it's because there's been a lot of catch up over time, you know, but it is a little bit unclear on what the actual work plan is and actually, |
| 02:47:46.36 | Scott Thornburg | you know, |
| 02:47:46.42 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 02:47:46.48 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
| 02:47:51.74 | Amy Haworth | And I'm that's a new term for you. I mean, that's what I call it, the work plan. And so I see this, I saw this list as council requested agenda items And so it may be, And for me, I was thinking, well, staff has all these other things to do, right? And... I just was like, well, how do we, how do I identify, you know, how do we pair this down? Because. And maybe it's, we're not right now. I mean, maybe we're gonna put this in a holding pack. Like, do you feel that it's critical right now to be adding new projects or do you want an ICU and then Janelle? |
| 02:48:24.16 | Joan Cox | Or do you think that's a good thing? I would say there are definitely some things on here that have been outstanding for a while that I think this council would endorse. prioritizing like, you know, the landslide you know, task force made some recommendations we need to implement. So I definitely think we could identify some of the things on here, but I just wanted to be clear, this is not the total universe of what would this council would consider to be its top priorities that are not already in the council. |
| 02:48:52.66 | Amy Haworth | Got it. |
| 02:48:59.32 | Amy Haworth | And I did understand that. So now I I'm seeing a way forward, but I want to hear from Janelle first. Oh, thank you. Um, |
| 02:49:05.06 | Janelle Kellman | I was going to suggest maybe a way forward is just as an exercise to actually go through the prioritization of this, because these are apples, oranges, and bananas up here. And it'll give some really great insight for one another and the community about how we... sort of view this also with the caveat that at least three of these are umbrellas where two or other or more actually fit under that umbrella. So we should consolidate as well. |
| 02:49:29.23 | Amy Haworth | So I think that it would be, I think it's meaningful to take 10 minutes for you guys to look through this and I cut out the cards that we're going to do this. Um, No, but, and with the acknowledgement that it's not, you know, it's not everything is going to rise. Right. And so I think there's what, is there 22 up there? 22? All right, so I've got all these packets of cards. So what I want you all to do, and city manager as well, and any staff member who wants to, because I have a lot of cards, I want you to make three buckets, basically. So think of it as seven, seven and eight. Yeah, seven, seven and eight. Um, And you know, your bottom seven Your middle, is it 21 for you guys? They have 22. There's 21 there. There's probably 21 cards here. We're going to do it and we're going to see what we left off. We can do this. They're smarter than I am. We can figure this out. So I want you to do a bottom seven. Remember, they're not going away. There's a middle. seven and a top eight. And so you're going to take these cards, you're going to physically create piles. And we're not going to talk about it. I want you to just do it. And then we're going to come together. Yes, Mr. Mayor. |
| 02:50:49.01 | Ian Sobieski | Well, I just... To make that successful, I'm wondering if there are one or two, I'm asking my colleagues really just to take out so that... There are a little more apples, apples, because we, for instance, have a property lease philosophy, and then we have just one lease on here, the Caskidley Boat Center lease. |
| 02:51:05.11 | Joan Cox | But I think that's going to take time to discuss that. I would say let's just stack them. And if something's already under something, put that on the bottom. Yeah. |
| 02:51:13.34 | Ian Sobieski | The business improvement district is on here, but that already has its own timetable for instance. So. |
| 02:51:13.45 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:51:18.42 | Amy Haworth | So is that already happening? |
| 02:51:20.84 | Ian Sobieski | It's already on the calendar. |
| 02:51:22.02 | Amy Haworth | Also, you'll put it at the bottom. So it won't be something that you're adding. in the box. a good question. OK, so I'm going to hand these out. And we'll see what happens. Obviously, you're welcome to talk to each other, but you don't have to. Let's take five to 10 minutes. I'll watch what you're doing. Okay, so take one and pass it down. |
| 02:51:40.50 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:51:40.65 | Amy Haworth | and you're welcome. |
| 02:51:41.56 | Unknown | you |
| 02:51:42.05 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:51:42.24 | Unknown | Yeah. |
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| 02:51:46.49 | Unknown | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 02:51:50.54 | Unknown | What are they doing? What am I supposed to be doing again? |
| 02:51:53.39 | Unknown | I love being here with that. |
| 02:51:55.43 | Unknown | of Thank you. |
| 02:51:56.34 | Unknown | I think it was really amazing. |
| 02:51:59.03 | Amy Haworth | But I have had a consultant who was so written into, he didn't let me stand up when I made progress. |
| 02:52:05.56 | Unknown | We're coming at something. What's that? |
| 02:52:06.22 | Unknown | Thank you. |
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| 02:52:06.26 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
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| 02:52:08.24 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
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| 02:52:08.41 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:52:08.53 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:52:09.18 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
| 02:52:09.22 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
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| 02:52:09.59 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
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| 02:52:09.94 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
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| 02:52:11.36 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:52:11.40 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:52:14.69 | Unknown | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 02:52:16.22 | Unknown | And they've got... I was going to pray to him, but hopefully it's there. |
| 02:52:20.64 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:52:22.09 | Unknown | Who said that? Hi guys. |
| 02:52:26.11 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:52:26.13 | Unknown | I'm going to watch them. |
| 02:52:27.04 | Amy Haworth | I'm going to get some more water though, too. Oh, actually. |
| 02:52:34.46 | Ian Sobieski | Nope. But we just said we wouldn't. |
| 02:52:36.20 | Unknown | Thank you. I've been putting on, right? So we got part of that one too. We'll need to add our harmonics. Thank you. |
| 02:52:46.48 | Ian Sobieski | So if it's already on a calendar, we put it on the bottom. |
| 02:52:49.21 | Unknown | See you in the comments. |
| 02:52:54.75 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:52:58.56 | Unknown | Thank you. . |
| 02:53:00.53 | Babette McDougall | Thank you. |
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| 02:53:01.31 | Babette McDougall | Thank you. |
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| 02:53:04.05 | Unknown | is just... |
| 02:53:04.45 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:53:04.62 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 02:53:04.64 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:53:04.79 | Melissa Blaustein | That's not a problem. I don't think they are. |
| 02:53:07.93 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:53:08.36 | Melissa Blaustein | five Thank you. |
| 02:53:12.11 | Unknown | Actually, how about making a stack of things where you think it's on the card? |
| 02:53:14.76 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:53:14.81 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:53:14.83 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:53:15.07 | Unknown | Later. |
| 02:53:15.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:53:16.84 | Unknown | What about a third? Majority puts his own accountable. |
| 02:53:17.27 | Unknown | it. Yeah. I would think you already put your own account. |
| 02:53:21.98 | Unknown | Hello. |
| 02:53:25.86 | Unknown | And simply, |
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| 02:53:26.00 | Unknown | of the things. |
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| 02:53:30.84 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:53:31.72 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:53:33.00 | Unknown | Good afternoon, Eric. So that's a lot of time. |
| 02:53:37.27 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:53:37.41 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
| 02:53:37.54 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:53:40.48 | Unknown | I agree. |
| 02:53:41.12 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:53:41.17 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
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| 02:53:42.03 | Unknown | because of the mixed bag. |
| 02:53:42.76 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:53:42.79 | Unknown | back then. Thank you. Bye. |
| 02:53:44.50 | Unknown | Well, You should get the prize. Have a lollipop. |
| 02:53:47.19 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. Bye. |
| 02:53:52.46 | Unknown | Have a look. |
| 02:53:53.03 | Unknown | Bye. Thank you. All right. Thanks. All right. |
| 02:53:55.04 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
| 02:53:55.18 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:53:57.27 | Unknown | Really? Thanks. All right. Thank you. Okay. All right. All right. |
| 02:54:00.80 | Unknown | started this. Okay. Yeah. All right. |
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| 02:54:10.38 | Unknown | She coughed, feeling special needs. |
| 02:54:12.05 | Unknown | That's super fun. Yeah, I didn't know about it. I'm a little bit scared. |
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| 02:54:20.25 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:54:22.40 | Unknown | on everyone else. |
| 02:54:29.75 | Unknown | So I'm making sure. |
| 02:54:30.41 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:54:30.65 | Unknown | You said seven, Chris Bernice? |
| 02:54:32.74 | Unknown | Thank you. Cards of Honor. |
| 02:54:34.36 | Scott Thornburg | I'm not sure. |
| 02:54:34.56 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:54:34.61 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
| 02:54:39.35 | Unknown | And then you have to go. I We have broken that first. |
| 02:54:48.03 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
| 02:54:48.08 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:54:51.05 | Unknown | Not bad. Yeah. Yeah. I heard about that. I'm so good. I'm so good. So good. |
| 02:54:52.79 | Scott Thornburg | And, I love you. |
| 02:54:57.99 | Unknown | . |
| 02:55:00.13 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
| 02:55:01.78 | Unknown | are at the instant. It's an obstacle. Thank you. |
| 02:55:07.54 | Unknown | How many in a second file? |
| 02:55:09.53 | Unknown | That's a big offer. |
| 02:55:10.20 | Unknown | I mean, it's like. |
| 02:55:11.32 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:55:12.33 | Unknown | How many in the second pile? Hey. Thank you. |
| 02:55:15.28 | Unknown | 877. |
| 02:55:16.16 | Unknown | Thanks, Sterling. Thank you. |
| 02:55:19.06 | Unknown | Thank you. But I promise you will not be penalized when you're . Remember, you all have. |
| 02:55:27.60 | Unknown | Remember? |
| 02:55:27.97 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
| 02:55:28.83 | Unknown | That's not right. |
| 02:55:32.65 | Unknown | I could do it like a little bit. Yeah, I know. It's so much of that. No, it's a more. |
| 02:55:36.27 | Unknown | No, it's a boy. |
| 02:55:37.76 | Unknown | Oh, no. Maybe I'm first back. Yeah. No. |
| 02:55:38.30 | Unknown | Okay. Yeah. |
| 02:55:42.16 | Ian Sobieski | No, I guess I'll pick it up because I thought you did. It sounded important. |
| 02:55:45.61 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:55:47.34 | Ian Sobieski | Okay. |
| 02:55:47.75 | Unknown | Thank you. I guess I'll take it out. |
| 02:55:52.05 | Unknown | Thank you. or |
| 02:55:56.61 | Amy Haworth | How y'all doing? |
| 02:55:57.13 | Unknown | the planning. |
| 02:55:58.97 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:55:59.04 | Unknown | Thanks. |
| 02:55:59.53 | Amy Haworth | Thanks. Wait a minute. |
| 02:56:01.84 | Unknown | ordering |
| 02:56:01.86 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:56:01.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:56:02.77 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:56:03.49 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:56:03.53 | Janelle Kellman | We'll make it. |
| 02:56:04.05 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:56:05.87 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:56:05.92 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:56:06.16 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 02:56:06.18 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:56:09.11 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:56:09.26 | Unknown | Sure. |
| 02:56:09.40 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:56:09.89 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
| 02:56:12.37 | Unknown | I didn't think I could hear something. |
| 02:56:14.85 | Amy Haworth | I do not have a favorite son. I promise you. Don't listen to them. It's a happiness. |
| 02:56:21.23 | Unknown | I think it's going to be too bad, but I'll take two minutes. We'll do it. Okay, so we're going to do a couple of things. I don't know how much you want to do it. I don't know how much you want to do it. I don't know if you're going to do it. I'm going to pay you guys. What is it? Okay, so. What price will you give me? |
| 02:56:25.31 | Amy Haworth | Okay. |
| 02:56:26.06 | Scott Thornburg | to do it in capsule 30. |
| 02:56:26.87 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:56:26.92 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you very much. All right. Oh yeah. that's if you're like a lot |
| 02:56:34.95 | Amy Haworth | Okay. |
| 02:56:37.40 | Unknown | completely well sure |
| 02:56:39.02 | Amy Haworth | So I heard. |
| 02:56:40.89 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:56:41.02 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. I heard you say that |
| 02:56:45.38 | Unknown | you |
| 02:56:45.40 | Amy Haworth | Some of these are already on the calendar. |
| 02:56:47.59 | Unknown | And |
| 02:56:49.21 | Amy Haworth | If you... Eventually, they'll identify that. I'm going to make like check marks Here. where your priorities are. So we can see if I hit them really right at the top. And we're also going to check stats. All right. But Thank you. |
| 02:57:07.85 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:57:08.89 | Amy Haworth | not with. |
| 02:57:09.39 | Unknown | This is fun. Part of it, too, is also because I think there is Thank you. |
| 02:57:15.80 | Amy Haworth | I want to say confusion. It's just that we need to be to ensure that we're fully informed of what activity is on this conference this year. And And even if it's on there, understanding like and the company about how we live, You know, a lot of things in planning, in the podcast, we say, oh, it's updated in general planning. Okay. I hadn't had a subject to you with me. Huge, right? Loving and time and stuff. Tell us. Amen. All right, are we good? Yeah. All right. So again, I'm going to make little hash marks. Um, For your number one and well, What? |
| 02:58:03.14 | Babette McDougall | We just have to. |
| 02:58:03.71 | Amy Haworth | God bless you. |
| 02:58:04.24 | Babette McDougall | Okay. |
| 02:58:04.98 | Unknown | Thank you. You did the right thing. |
| 02:58:08.01 | Amy Haworth | This is how we think. Yeah, two minutes. Two minutes. |
| 02:58:09.97 | Unknown | All right. |
| 02:58:10.61 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:58:10.70 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:58:10.95 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:58:11.74 | Unknown | Yeah, I would love to do that. Let's start with Jill. That's like a supplement life tactic. Thank you. OK. Okay. We got that. |
| 02:58:22.10 | Amy Haworth | Yeah. or we don't become a mess. |
| 02:58:23.35 | Unknown | No, no comment. We'll get started. |
| 02:58:25.06 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. You should break the rules. Okay, go ahead. Next is study infrastructure, RFP. |
| 02:58:34.15 | Unknown | or specific in one day. |
| 02:58:36.11 | Amy Haworth | Next is study. You already have that. That's already on the agenda. |
| 02:58:40.26 | Unknown | Partiamo a terra in cera. Well, it comes out a little bit. |
| 02:58:43.96 | Amy Haworth | I'm going to put our, um, Already on? OK. |
| 02:58:49.97 | Unknown | Thank you. the jihad, jihad, whatever. |
| 02:58:56.31 | Scott Thornburg | Bye. |
| 02:58:56.33 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:58:56.40 | Amy Haworth | Yeah. |
| 02:58:56.72 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:59:03.03 | Jill Hoffman | God bless you, sir. Hillside ordinance. |
| 02:59:04.99 | Unknown | That was. |
| 02:59:06.81 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:59:06.82 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:59:06.84 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 02:59:06.89 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:59:07.67 | Jill Hoffman | Revision set up blood plain. |
| 02:59:09.59 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:59:09.62 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:59:09.64 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:59:10.28 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:59:10.33 | Unknown | What is that? What if a blood plane, we're going to... I'm assuming it's within the blood plane. I don't think I have no idea. Is that a community that's performed on the flyers? Not unless it knows you know, |
| 02:59:17.91 | Unknown | Exactly. |
| 02:59:19.43 | Unknown | of the files. Yeah. |
| 02:59:23.58 | Unknown | Thank you. All right, come back. We can do it. And then slide it in. my birthday. I'm assuming that has to be a return. |
| 02:59:32.10 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
| 02:59:34.30 | Unknown | Um, explore options for catastrophic questions. I'm glad you have a minute. No, I could have been there. Oh. Yeah. |
| 02:59:44.67 | Unknown | No. |
| 02:59:44.76 | Babette McDougall | Bye. |
| 02:59:48.08 | Unknown | Thank you. Okay. Okay. Uh, public comment proposal. But that should be a 10 minute conversation. I love that. Okay. All right. And then with my talking, I'm going |
| 03:00:00.74 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. And... It's already on the calendar, okay? |
| 03:00:07.51 | Unknown | Class 200. Wait. Okay. I can't hear you. Oh, they came here. Thanks. |
| 03:00:15.83 | Janelle Kellman | Property lease philosophies on the right-hand side. They're down. The potential catastrophic insurance, fourth down on the right. money reserve policies. the GAD, which for me included the hillside. Next is study and infrastructure RFP. And now in the right hand side. |
| 03:00:36.97 | Amy Haworth | Right hand. |
| 03:00:41.58 | Unknown | with Ariana, which is good. I'm going to go ahead and go ahead |
| 03:00:47.50 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay, joint EOC and MOU approval, approval, because we never mind no comments. Hillside ordinance. |
| 03:00:54.15 | Unknown | Help that word. Why can't I remember what we're doing? Help that word. Take care. |
| 03:01:01.44 | Melissa Blaustein | A sewer consolidation. |
| 03:01:05.14 | Amy Haworth | Okay? |
| 03:01:05.86 | Melissa Blaustein | money reserve policies. |
| 03:01:07.95 | Amy Haworth | I mean, no bachelor. |
| 03:01:10.05 | Melissa Blaustein | Property lease philosophies. Um, wait, that's not. Um, employee parking, just parking. |
| 03:01:21.28 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:01:21.40 | Amy Haworth | Bye. |
| 03:01:21.77 | Melissa Blaustein | on the night? Yeah. |
| 03:01:21.86 | Amy Haworth | Yeah. |
| 03:01:22.60 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:01:22.74 | Amy Haworth | you |
| 03:01:22.80 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:01:25.91 | Melissa Blaustein | And the Dorothy Gibson house, because that's just. |
| 03:01:29.33 | Amy Haworth | has come. Okay, great, thank you. |
| 03:01:32.98 | Melissa Blaustein | Because I had the Nexus Infrastructure one that's already on, and I had the Odds and that's already on. So that was... Yeah, the event is already on. |
| 03:01:42.68 | Joan Cox | money reserve policies. Options for insurance carriers, catastrophic. Yep. Jihad. Don't call it that. Dad. |
| 03:01:56.40 | Unknown | I think that's the first place. |
| 03:01:59.37 | Joan Cox | Hillside ordinance. Property lease philosophies. |
| 03:02:07.57 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Employee parking Caledonia. Sewer consolidation. |
| 03:02:18.86 | Joan Cox | EOC-MOU, joint EOC-MOU. |
| 03:02:25.58 | Ian Sobieski | Yes. So I didn't put, where is it up there? I'll just say what I put, money reserve policies. property lease philosophies. |
| 03:02:38.66 | Joan Cox | It's unanimous. |
| 03:02:39.33 | Ian Sobieski | Nexus study infrastructure, IP. Yeah, let me take that off because I didn't have any of my... I also took, well, I only mean, I also took the bid off because that's already on. I mean, it wasn't in my list or presumably anyone else's. And so did there in the bottom right, the bid's already on the calendar. Great, so the comprehensive citywide plan. It was... |
| 03:03:10.11 | Ian Sobieski | launch of employee parking, Caledonia parking, hillside ordinance, and insurance carriers. |
| 03:03:12.86 | Scott Thornburg | and the parking lot. |
| 03:03:21.97 | Unknown | I like it. |
| 03:03:24.39 | Chris Zapata | So can I ask all the staff people to line up? So if you're going to read, George, you'll be at the mic. You can tap. |
| 03:03:28.93 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:03:28.94 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. you |
| 03:03:29.50 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 03:03:29.58 | Amy Haworth | What are you going to do |
| 03:03:31.51 | Chris Zapata | I'm gonna do mine and if you wanted departments to do theirs. |
| 03:03:34.99 | Amy Haworth | I'm having color issues. |
| 03:03:37.08 | Chris Zapata | Is that what I expected, Amy, that just me or you want the departments? I. |
| 03:03:41.40 | Amy Haworth | All of them. If they don't want to, if it matches, you don't have to. But if you have something else, I'd love to bring it forward. |
| 03:03:41.95 | Chris Zapata | Yeah. |
| 03:03:47.52 | Chris Zapata | Yeah, okay. a Nexus study in infrastructure RFP. |
| 03:03:55.98 | Chris Zapata | money reserve policy, Dorothy Gibson House implementation property, lease philosophy, hillside ordinance, odds review. ODBF. |
| 03:04:11.89 | Joan Cox | O-D-B-S. It's halfway down. There you go. It's already on the calendar, that's why, yeah. |
| 03:04:16.41 | Chris Zapata | of the And then odds review, the hillside ordinance, I mean. |
| 03:04:22.88 | Joan Cox | She did. She put a zero. |
| 03:04:24.48 | Chris Zapata | Sewer consolidation. |
| 03:04:30.54 | Joan Cox | Thank you. It's Abbott. |
| 03:04:34.62 | Abbott Chambers | Abbott Chambers, you . City librarian and director of communications. My eight catastrophic insurance carriers Joint EOC and MOU approval. Odds review. sewer consolidation. Dorothy Gibsonhouse. Business Improvement District. you had. |
| 03:05:01.64 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:05:03.33 | Abbott Chambers | and money reserve policies. Thank you. |
| 03:05:03.39 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:05:08.00 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:05:09.62 | Unknown | Hello, I am Kathy Nikitas. I'm the Human Resources Manager, Money Reserve Policies. Catastrophic Insurance Carriers, Dorothy Gibson House, Blood Plain Ordinance, Comprehensive Citywide Plan. Oh, sorry. Thank you. Heh. Okay. And the last one was joint EOC and MOU approval. I did six top because that's what I thought. |
| 03:05:39.93 | Brendan Phipps | Good morning, Brendan Phipps, Community and Economic Development Director. My top eight are perhaps selfishly skewed towards CDD. THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:05:49.87 | Joan Cox | way. No way. |
| 03:05:51.49 | Brendan Phipps | Okay, on my list, OzReview. |
| 03:05:54.96 | Joan Cox | Odds are rising. |
| 03:05:55.08 | Brendan Phipps | Odds review. Conversation and direction on the BID. Nexus study. Nexus Study and Infrastructure. RFP, Dorothy Gibson House implementation, money reserve, policies, options for potential catastrophic insurance carriers, property lease philosophy, and sewer consolidation. Thank you. |
| 03:06:26.50 | Kevin McGowan | Okay. Kevin McGowan, Public Works. Is there a bingo? |
| 03:06:29.86 | Unknown | Ha ha ha. |
| 03:06:30.75 | Kevin McGowan | No. Okay, okay, okay. Money reserve policies? Sewer consolidation, MOU consolidation with the district. odds review. Dorothy Gibson House. Joint EOC and MOU approval. |
| 03:06:54.55 | Kevin McGowan | And revision to floodplain ordinance, even though I don't know why this is here, we're not being required to do so. But it's the third from the bottom on the right. If it's here, the federal government tells us we have to do it anyway. So. |
| 03:07:01.08 | Joan Cox | If you're- Thank you. |
| 03:07:06.51 | Kevin McGowan | And employee pay increase report. |
| 03:07:10.93 | Amy Haworth | I got that. |
| 03:07:12.08 | Kevin McGowan | It's right there where your finger is. And lastly, I have the Geologic Hazard Abatement District. otherwise known as jihad. |
| 03:07:22.73 | Unknown | Yeah. Yeah, we're going to have to talk about that. Okay. All right. All right. |
| 03:07:28.06 | Chad Hess | Chad Hess, Director of Finance, Money Reserve Policy. Yep. Property lease philosophy. Nexus study, infrastructure RFP. Sewer consolidation. comprehensive citywide plan, Hillside Ordinance, Dorothy Gibson House. |
| 03:07:43.64 | Joan Cox | Gibson House Okay. I'm getting it. |
| 03:07:47.32 | Chad Hess | And then employee parking. |
| 03:07:48.62 | Joan Cox | Hillside ordinance. |
| 03:07:53.92 | Chad Hess | Thank you. |
| 03:07:58.96 | Walfred Solorzano | All right, Walford, Solorzano, City Clerk. Uh, Brandon odds review. Properly these philosophies. comprehensive citywide plan. money reserve policies. |
| 03:08:13.73 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:08:15.25 | Walfred Solorzano | Yeah. Next is study and infrastructure RFP, conversation and direction on BID, launch a local employee parking program for Caledonia businesses, and Dorothy House implementation. |
| 03:08:34.55 | Joan Cox | We have a couple people on... I don't know if they're going to participate. The chief. They didn't get the cards. The chief, oh. Oh, they didn't get the cards. |
| 03:08:41.33 | Melissa Blaustein | Oh. City Attorney and the Chief would be nice to have. |
| 03:08:46.65 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:08:46.72 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 03:08:46.80 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 03:08:46.97 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 03:08:47.16 | Joan Cox | No. |
| 03:08:48.44 | Sergio Rudin | Yeah, I mean, I, I think the council received from me in the last several months, you know, an update of comprehensive items that I think the city should undertake for the purposes of risk management and for procurement of substitute insurance. I would say the city attorney's office priorities are solely on that list. Additionally, I do think Out of the items that are on your future agenda items, I think from the risk management perspective, the sewer consolidation item would be probably highest out of all of these. |
| 03:09:22.25 | Joan Cox | Yeah, we're nearly unanimous on that. |
| 03:09:27.37 | Unknown | You want me to go? Can you hear me? Okay, Joint EOC. Hillside ordinance. Dorothy Gibson House. money reserve policies. employee parking. employee pay. increased report and the odds review. |
| 03:09:46.88 | Joan Cox | It's right about... |
| 03:09:47.53 | Unknown | of employee |
| 03:09:48.02 | Joan Cox | parking. And Odds Review is on the right. |
| 03:09:52.17 | Amy Haworth | had it. Okay. Thank you. |
| 03:09:56.33 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:09:57.15 | Amy Haworth | All right. |
| 03:09:57.79 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:09:59.30 | Amy Haworth | All right, we are done with this. So the good news is it's pretty much there's a lot of alignment. And the bad news, I think, and I'm not your student manager, District City Manager. Thank you. So, I think that |
| 03:10:18.03 | Joan Cox | Can you go to the mic? Sorry. |
| 03:10:20.09 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 03:10:20.61 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:10:20.63 | Amy Haworth | you |
| 03:10:20.66 | Joan Cox | you The mic, the mic. |
| 03:10:22.36 | Amy Haworth | That's the money, also helpful. |
| 03:10:22.68 | Joan Cox | so that So that people watching can hear. |
| 03:10:25.35 | Amy Haworth | So there's... No, I appreciate that. I'm so embarrassed. You guys have to all send an email to our mayor. and tell him what I did because he'll be very embarrassed. I'm almost serious. So your mayor back in, okay. Yeah, no, seriously. Hey. She kept forgetting to use her mic. It would be hilarious. Okay, so... One of the things, so there's so much There's a lot of consensus on your money reserve policy, your property lease policy. I'm tired. Catastrophic insurance carrier, Nexus study, sewer consolidation, Dorothy Gibson House. There's still a lot of support for other things like the bid, the GAD. Um, |
| 03:11:18.05 | Amy Haworth | Yeah. Hillside ordinance, which sounds like it's a government mandate and Caledonia parking and bid. So that stuff is again, none of this is going away. But, And a couple of them are on your future agenda. So that's great. Like odds, we can take that off, it's on there. But. These are big. items. Right? So I know I'm not trying to. patronizing or matronizing actually, but You know, it's like, you understand, I think, but the money reserve policy, so you can, Ask staff to come back to you with some ideas on it, but it's going to, that's going to be a discussion amongst you and I'm guessing. That's going to be a long discussion. I think that's a good question. Maybe, maybe not. Property lease philosophies, that's going to be a long discussion. It's helpful for staff. is what is the information you need in order to make the right decision? And maybe they give you all of that. But you all might need different decision, you know, information. I have a council member every single time. I don't care what it is. He says, what are other cities doing in the area? or about this issue. That's his voice. He's like my best friend, so I can do it. But- I told Steph, why wouldn't you just include that every single time? And then he's not going to ask the question. So like for property lease philosophies, I bet you that there are other communities who have these, right? And so bring those forward and they may not meet your, they may not meet your visions. But I would say that when you're doing these things, these are big things that will take, because it's philosophy of it and it's a policy, it's a lot of discussion and it's a lot of research for staff, but even bigger, your Nexus study and infrastructure RFP, right? perhaps getting the RFP out is not It's still a big lift, am I right? Careful. But, and when that comes back, I mean, that's a big ticket item. But that is, you guys all mentioned infrastructure, right? And this is your facilities assessment, I'm assuming, or infrastructure assessment? See, this is what, you know, I've done it. We have done this and it really helped us a lot, but it's really expensive and you may need a consultant to do it. And I want to say, I'm not trying to tout my own horn, tout it myself, whatever. There are things that you need a consultant for because you're a small city and you don't have staff capacity. And for the public, I want you to understand when you hire a consultant, guess what? It's not a burden. You're not paying them health insurance. You're not paying them long term. You know, it's not a long term staffer. Um, This is my, I've been doing this for 20 years. Don't fall into the trap that all consultants are bad. Some of us are, but not all of them. Okay, so sewer consolidation. Now that's really difficult, right? Because now that's negotiations with that district, correct? And there's probably infrastructure that goes into that as well, right? So these are not a one, we're gonna get all this done this year. |
| 03:14:26.27 | Joan Cox | Well, but sewer consolidation has been in process since 2020. I believe that. And so- you know, a lot of that work has already been done. That's fantastic. And it was part of our strategic plan for 2020. |
| 03:14:35.05 | Amy Haworth | That's fantastic. |
| 03:14:35.47 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 03:14:39.77 | Joan Cox | Okay, Janelle? I defer to Janelle. |
| 03:14:40.10 | Janelle Kellman | Okay, Janelle? Yeah, so the beauty of these things is that they are all interrelated, right? And so I would love to hear your thoughts and my council's thoughts on Next six months, we do one of these a night plus one other thing. I mean, we've been going to 11, went to midnight almost the other night. we take plenty of time up and we're pretty chock loaded. What if we just said like, these are the top six things. And the next six months, we're looking at them over and over again until we finish them. Is that a reasonable way to cut through these things that we actually have a lot of agreement on. |
| 03:15:16.17 | Amy Haworth | Well, I'm sorry, Ms. See, I can interrupt because I'm going to leave. Thank you. You did it. I think that's I mean, I want to hear from your colleagues. And when I'm talking about a heavy lift. I'm also talking about staff work, but it's it's true and and but also identifying if we put this on the meeting, we probably shouldn't put on this other item that's also a lot of community involvement, so there'll be 30 you know, comments about this other project that's, and that's agenda management that, you know, you have people doing, go ahead, Mr. Mayor, sorry. |
| 03:15:48.78 | Ian Sobieski | That more or less articulates what I was just going to say. First off, the list we just saw isn't comprehensive because there are a lot of things currently on the calendar. So some things may have to get pushed to accommodate these. And also, we do definitely have a whole cycle with our CEO, with our city manager, to ensure that things are ready to be put on the calendar. I think there's a I've noticed a Sometimes things go on the counter before they're really ready for decisions and it's just something Jill really advocates for is that they be ready to decide so that we don't keep hearing things over and over again like let's be sure the ask is I think from this list is this is Chris said I got too long a list let's pare it down. And we're helping pare it down. And then we're asking him to get them ready. And when they're ready, they should go on the agenda as soon as they can sort of period. |
| 03:16:36.33 | Amy Haworth | So, Let me talk a little bit about some next steps because you still... You know, you're going to have things that are going to come up day to day, meeting to meeting, right? I mean, There's a lot. It's hard to manage this, right? But I think your idea is With the city managers, um, Expertise. You're the top six. But I will write this all up and I will submit it to all of you, work with your city. I will help it so it's not just a bunch of my chicken scratches, right? Right. Um, But I think it's okay to say, we want to have these discussions At the council level, we may make direction Now, staff me. not start working on it until they finish this hillside policy, which is mandated by the federal government, which has to be done by June 30th. I'm making that up. Right? I think working with the city manager on the calendar And we want to have some of these discussions. I think like your city manager, you don't do you have to discuss the insurance thing or is that something your city manager is trying to make happen? |
| 03:17:48.74 | Joan Cox | There are huge financial implications, so it's a council decision. |
| 03:17:50.80 | Amy Haworth | Oh. Oh, I see. Right. So when they come forward and they say, right. So, okay. Got it. Got it. Thank you for that. Does that make sense that I agree, Janelle, like you don't want to lose this list, right? You don't want to lose what you guys have discussed. But So it's one thing to have the discussion, but it's up to him and the staff and the timing, because you also have the budget coming. Go ahead, Mr. C. Manager, I can see. |
| 03:18:15.10 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. Well, thanks. So the way the agenda is constructed is a mixed bag. You know, staff brings things forward. Council puts things on a list. You have agenda setting committee, which then takes and works with city staff, city attorney, city clerk, and myself to put an agenda out. And so what's been done today is really hit three themes that are no different than they've been for the last two years. Our infrastructure, our finances, what's missing is personnel because the staff is now stable. Labor contracts are in place, but what's come new is insurance. And so in my mind, the exercise of watching people think from the five council people and hearing the priorities, which frankly mirror mine, you know, that that's a good, that's a good push so that when the agenda setting committee does meet, they will have the benefit of this kind of a conversation to say, yeah, you know, we need to work on a hillside ordinance, not put it out into, you know, the ether. We need to work on a reserve policy. So for me, just the six, seven things that staff has put together, but with the council's real thought process is helpful to develop future agendas. So I'm really pleased and thank you, but I do wanna point out that themes are the same, infrastructure, finance. |
| 03:19:33.65 | Amy Haworth | And resiliency, yes, Janelle. |
| 03:19:34.75 | Janelle Kellman | you Thank you. |
| 03:19:36.02 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 03:19:36.03 | Janelle Kellman | So my suggestion might be, and we've talked about limits of the Brown Act. My suggestion might be, to make each of these a standing item that we rotate through, we can have a discussion around the Geologic Hazard Bateman District, the upcoming engineering report, and the Hillside Ordinance without a lengthy staff report. We all know something about those issues today. And what we're trying to develop is policy. And so it's going to take many, many conversations. But what is our philosophy around risk mitigation through a Hillside Ordinance? What is our philosophy around devoting monies towards a geologic hazard assessment? Something that at least begins to vet the conversation, more like a study session for the council, right? So that when we have a meeting, council has more direction, staff has more direction, because I agree with the city manager that we're hitting on finance and infrastructure, but this is the first time we're actually giving some specifics, right? And I want to keep us focused on resolving these things. And they're going to take a lot of lift. And I know we have housing issues, EIR stuff. We have a streets program we have to finalize. We have risk mitigation that we're going to have to evaluate. But I think if we keep coming back to these with some level of specificity, what it will do is it will stop us from adding on other projects that we get excited about which are fun and exciting and have other value and may make us happy um but at least stay with with these because we're saying today we all agree these are really important so i want to make sure that |
| 03:20:14.64 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:20:14.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:20:14.71 | Jill Hoffman | THE END OF |
| 03:20:14.86 | Scott Thornburg | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:20:14.90 | Jill Hoffman | I don't know. |
| 03:21:03.04 | Janelle Kellman | Stay with us. |
| 03:21:03.44 | Amy Haworth | We stay with that. Mr. Mayor, were you going to or Joan and then Mr. Mayor? |
| 03:21:03.50 | Janelle Kellman | Thank you. |
| 03:21:09.05 | Joan Cox | Something that the mayor and I had proposed early in the year is to schedule a couple of workshop meetings for the council and outside of our normal Tuesday evening schedule. And the purpose of those is to advance some of these more complicated, big picture, overview thinking types of projects that are really difficult to distill within the confines of an already full evening agenda. Yeah. |
| 03:21:37.04 | Unknown | That's great. |
| 03:21:37.42 | Joan Cox | And so I wanted to raise that concept again. Not every council member is enthusiastic about that, um, prospect, but I think You know, given that we really have a lot of alignments on some really big you know, picture items like sewer consolidation and how do we negotiate that we get treated fairly as the other agencies who are members of this sewer agency are. And, you know, as what Janelle just mentioned about the GAD plus the, you know, the Hillside Ordinance, the Floodplain Ordinance, I see some really, some commonalities that we could, |
| 03:21:56.84 | Amy Haworth | Right. |
| 03:22:05.04 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 03:22:19.35 | Joan Cox | um, pull together and do a couple of meetings, a couple of workshops where we could really get a lot done, give clear direction to staff to really streamline their efforts to advance these projects. So that's, I wanted to raise the prospect of that again. Okay. |
| 03:22:32.93 | Amy Haworth | BANTS. I'm writing that down. Mr. Mayor? I haven't spoken yet. |
| 03:22:39.18 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah. |
| 03:22:39.70 | Jill Hoffman | We'll be checking. |
| 03:22:40.10 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 03:22:41.14 | Jill Hoffman | Oh. Thank you. |
| 03:22:43.50 | Amy Haworth | I did see that. |
| 03:22:43.61 | Jill Hoffman | I did see it. I can't stop you on this section though. |
| 03:22:45.34 | Amy Haworth | Okay. |
| 03:22:45.39 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 03:22:45.42 | Amy Haworth | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:22:45.47 | Jill Hoffman | go ahead, whatever. |
| 03:22:46.01 | Amy Haworth | I'll get you, I promise, because I did see his hand. That's on me. Sorry. Go ahead, Mr. Mayor. |
| 03:22:50.25 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah, I second that. instinct of having some meetings for that purpose outside of our regular schedule. Thank you. And I'm also just cognizant that the idea that we set a criteria that we hear things when they're actually decisions to be made is important. I feel like the workshop, a separate kind of meeting for brainstorming, pathfinding is helpful. And we can't always make a decision, so we do continue matters from time to time. But I do feel like the clarifying exercise for staff is to... have the expectation that staff will help us narrow the decision so we're more clear about what we're deciding and that their actual decision points to move things forward. Rather than Thank you. |
| 03:23:39.08 | Unknown | Right. |
| 03:23:39.61 | Ian Sobieski | chit chat sessions or merely updates. I do think there's another argument though for having a citywide dashboard on major projects where anyone can check the status of things that can be updated by staff. What is the status of the consumer sewer consolidation? Yeah. |
| 03:23:57.65 | Amy Haworth | That sounds like another thing to add to a list and that's fine, but that's a project. So Jill. |
| 03:24:05.83 | Jill Hoffman | So, yeah, I thought we were going to talk about the proposed workshops at the next thing on the agenda, which is how it's agendized, about future agenda items and the proposed Saturday workshops, the three more Saturday workshops. You know, and today's a really good example about why you should be cautious about City Council regular well special city council meetings outside of the normal schedule, so we have three people for sorry seven people here. In the meeting today, we have four people online. This is wildly below what our normal attendance is. at city council meetings. So I'm not against workshopping things. I'm not against at all saying on the agenda, you know, we're going to, we're going to have a discussion about whatever it is. But I feel like my experience is that when you devote four hours on a Saturday morning, you start at eight o'clock on a Saturday morning. I value the time with my family highly. And I value the time of the staff members Time with their families, very high. Chad flew in today for this meeting. |
| 03:25:11.73 | Unknown | Oh. |
| 03:25:12.01 | Jill Hoffman | Karen Hollweg, Have we haven't had a finance report from Chad so why is Chad here so that's a huge waste of time and energy for him to fly in for this meeting, so when you have an unfocused. Karen Hollweg, discussion, you know, does it merit anybody getting up on a Saturday morning and sacrificing that time I mean that's just my perspective right but. That's also the perspective of my husband. Karen Hollweg, Quite clearly, and so I think we can do that we have I think we have to be disciplined about doing city work during regularly scheduled meetings so that people don't have to hunt for when we're doing substantive things. Karen Hollweg, We also have to be very clear about what's on our agenda for that meeting so people can prepare. and they show up and we know what our time management is for the meeting. like I said, I'm not against discussions. I think, I think today there has been some value, has it been four and a half hours worth of value? I don't know. But I think this last hour and a half has been helpful for our, definitely for our city manager, as he said, I think for all of us too. And especially looking to see how we just naturally align on certain priorities. Thank you. But that's why I'm principally against doing things that are outside our normal city council schedule because I think that makes that creates confusion amongst our our our you know the citizens in Sausalito great so |
| 03:26:31.63 | Amy Haworth | Right. THE END OF THE END OF THE So, And thank you for being able to, I realize the agenda today has been a little bit, flexible, but I think that there were some, you know, interesting concepts raised like let's do our why, let's do this. I think it's, I think it's, well, it doesn't matter if I think it's useful, but I think that you're right. In general, if you're having a workshop, let's say it's on sewer consolidation, you better have a, I mean, it's a normal, like, hosted city council agenda with the staff report with everything attached. Now, another way to do it is to have like the off Tuesday. You guys meet on Tuesdays or Wednesdays? Okay, Tuesdays. Have, so we're first and third. So tomorrow, or not tomorrow, Tuesday is a special workshop on our work plan. So we're having it on the off Tuesday. That might help because I agree. Saturdays are rough. And in I'm actually surprised you have this many people. It's amazing. It's also you'll impress us the heck out of me. Go ahead, Janelle. And then I'm sorry, go ahead. Yeah, I'm just responding to hands. |
| 03:27:36.08 | Melissa Blaustein | That's okay. So I tend to echo Councilmember Hoffman sentiment around Saturday morning meetings, and also just a reminder that many of us also have full time jobs in a workload in addition to our volunteer capacity will mostly volunteer we do get. a stipend on the council. And obviously if there's an urgency or a need to make a decision, we all show up and we support each other in that way. And we want to be as supportive as possible to meeting the goals. I mean, I would love to be as supportive as possible of supporting Mayor Sobieski's agenda this year, but being mindful of people's respect, their time with their family or staff's time with their family is really important. And I want to acknowledge that. And I also was thinking throughout the course of this conversation, because there are a lot of things on the future agenda items that matter to all of us that we might not get to and good points were made as well. around you know, that's something you engage with community organizations around Sausalito Beautiful, or you might work with Sausalito Foundation. So I would maybe suggest that in our part of our meetings where we give committee reports, we might also include initiative reports so that we can share out and say, you know, this was on future agenda items. I want to let you know, this is what I've done without staff time or whatever. So folks are aware and you can still talk about what you're doing in your capacity as a council member in a somewhat formal way without having to formally agendize it. |
| 03:29:00.25 | Janelle Kellman | I like that a lot, the initiative reports. I just want to make two comments. One is I'm just going to push us to stay rigorous and try to handle city business during regular city meetings. If we can't do that, then we're not being efficient in our meetings. And what happens is then we fill the meetings with things that aren't our top six. So, you know, I, That would be my argument for trying to get everything done on the Tuesday nights where we're scheduled. The second piece of it is I just wanna acknowledge that we have staff here and we have five or six items where there is a majority, almost a unanimous agreement that those are the items we should be working on. And if staff doesn't have time to work on them, then perhaps we need to be informed of what is staff working on. So there's a disconnect. We don't fully understand what staff is doing. And maybe staff would like to, you know, kind of shift some priorities. There's just something there. |
| 03:29:52.70 | Amy Haworth | I hear, oh, go ahead, Joan, sorry. |
| 03:29:54.84 | Joan Cox | I just wanted to dovetail on what Janelle said. I am so grateful to have our staff here. And I think it's a really important team building opportunity for staff to see what our priorities are and how highly we value staff. And we don't often just have the opportunity to say that as we're addressing our individual agenda items on the dais. And so I realize it's an imposition to ask people to come in on a Saturday morning, but we typically do this once a year, our strategic planning session. And I'm grateful for the staff participation and I know I as an employee, I'm always grateful to see how my leaders perceive the world and what's important. And it's an opportunity for better collaboration and better understanding by them of why we're asking of them the things we're asking of them, but also the high regard and respect that we have for them to not try to overtax them. So I just want to acknowledge and thank the staff as well as the community, of course, for participating with us today. |
| 03:30:37.50 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:30:53.36 | Amy Haworth | Yeah. |
| 03:31:00.15 | Amy Haworth | So what I hear, and it's not for me to decide, yes, you have to meet on Saturday or off Tuesdays. You guys are gonna figure that out. But it's important that you all opined on that. I guess one of the reasons that, and I heard the subcommittee talking, Because your meetings go so long, Uh, is why maybe a separate, like more workshop-y thing And I'm not, again, I'm not saying yes, no. But what you do need to consider, and again, I go back to governance, is your meeting shouldn't go to midnight. Nothing good happens after I say 10. I used to say 11. I was younger then. And we actually have something on our council. Our council policy is if it's about to be 10 o'clock, we won't start a new item unless we all vote on it. And And it's enforced discipline, you know, and we wrap ourselves, we actually, you know, they will say, Amy, you talked already. There's something, I mean, I'll say that we're so close, right? And then whatever, but So I want you to consider, because you have, some of these things are gonna be things that you're gonna have to talk about, like philosophies and policies. I think that You know, What I see across the state, in all districts, staffs, whether they've been there for 30 years or just new, COVID, there's everyone's still digging out of COVID, frankly, and this backlog, right? And what I see, though, I don't see anyone making an excuse. I don't see that. But I do think that there probably needs to be more communication on a regular basis, here's what staff is working on. Here's the capacity. These projects that are proposed are easy, medium, hard, or whatever the thing is. And so I have internal recommendations too that I think could help. And I think you guys can handle it. um, I want to know... We're going to go to public comment really soon. Oh, yeah. We're going to go to public comment really soon. Yes, sir? |
| 03:33:00.19 | Ian Sobieski | Well, I was just going to articulate that, and I get we haven't resolved the question, but if we constrain ourselves to end by 10 and only keep the regular schedule and have unlimited speaking time as members of the council and unlimited Q&A time, that something's got to give in that. formulation and I'm just cognizant of it. Yeah. And And so that's something we have to wrestle with. And it's our first year. I know we can adapt to the needs, but something's got to give in that formulation. And that means we might be leaving money on the table. Something if we literally ran out of time and don't have five minutes to spend on something, |
| 03:33:41.60 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:33:42.42 | Ian Sobieski | But it keeps piling up because we have so many things and so many priorities and a limited amount of time. Now, I'm a proponent of the idea that work fills the time allotted, so I generally like to keep things tight, but I'm also cognizant of that tension. I just wanted to articulate that. |
| 03:33:57.49 | Amy Haworth | I haven't watched your meetings yet. I'd say it's a meeting management issue though, too. And I think that that's an internal control that you guys can work on. Have you guys watched your meetings? Do you guys ever go back and watch your meetings? I'm so sorry. Yeah. Yeah. OK, that's good. I do. I want to go. But I want you to understand that I am going to be providing summaries and a report to all of you. of what's been said, what you decided upon. From where I stand, I see what's exciting is the consensus, because I heard from one of you in our one-on-one talks, hey, we really need this money reserve policy. But I heard from all of you, all of you, that we need that. So that's really great. Um, You know, I'd love five minutes at the end to just with some housekeeping, but do you want to go to public comment right now? |
| 03:34:47.10 | Ian Sobieski | Oh, yes, but go ahead. City manager. |
| 03:34:49.59 | Amy Haworth | I'm going to clean up my stuff. |
| 03:34:50.66 | Chris Zapata | If I can, I want to say my last words for the evening and thank everybody for being our public staff and council. We didn't get to the financial discussion, but it's important. And that financial information is online for the public to view. It's a work in progress. People need to understand finances have a lot of variables in our budgets and the working group of Mayor Sobieski, Councilmember Hoffman, and former Mayor Worthy working with Chad. It's a work in progress. but what we've got so far is online for the public to view. The second thing, I really wanna thank you for your 90-10 slide. |
| 03:35:14.62 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:35:24.16 | Adrian Brinton | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:35:24.36 | Chris Zapata | Amy, I mean, for the public to understand everything you see in a council meeting is everything that's going on at City Hall. So thank you for that. And thank you for your time. |
| 03:35:24.49 | Adrian Brinton | Yeah. Beth loves it. |
| 03:35:27.50 | Amy Haworth | Thank you. |
| 03:35:33.25 | Amy Haworth | You're so welcome. |
| 03:35:34.33 | Chris Zapata | and the |
| 03:35:35.65 | Amy Haworth | All right, I'm gonna move some of my stuff here, but go for it. |
| 03:35:38.67 | Ian Sobieski | So we'll do public comment and we are adjourning in honor of something I want to commemorate. So let's have a formal adjournment, but we're opening the floor for public comment. |
| 03:35:51.24 | Walfred Solorzano | OK, so any members of the public that would like to comment right now? OK, great. Go for it. You have two minutes. |
| 03:35:51.32 | Ian Sobieski | Okay. |
| 03:35:51.98 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:36:04.79 | Unknown | I actually have some questions besides my comment, but it's interesting that in the last five minutes, the topic that I wanted to talk about was brought up, and that's communication. And communication is so important. And I see where there are gaps. And one of the biggest gaps is with the public. Now, I live across the street in HUD housing. At one time, I'm 83 years old, I still am, But at one time I was the youngest person in that complex. Okay. A lot of people don't have computers. They don't have smartphones. They can't be on Zoom presentations. They don't get any information at all. about what what's in the meeting, what's going to be discussed or you have very few people here Saturday. I just found out about it last night at the library presentation. So I'm encouraging you to look into What can be done? to reach out to all of the community all of the community, not just those that have computers and smartphones. not those that have mobility or cars. The other problem I can see is here with parking. I don't know, I didn't realize Does your group do the parking decisions in this city. So whoever implemented this last thing on all these streets, parallel streets, of two hour parking. And then you have to have a permit at night or you get like a $60 ticket. A lot of the people have helpers. that come at night. to help them. Or the library puts on a program, 80 people showed up. Did they get tickets because they parked there? Or are there special arrangements? So I'm saying there are things that have not been thought out. about the entire community. So, Can I say a couple more things? |
| 03:38:13.92 | Ian Sobieski | Sorry, the time limit is... |
| 03:38:15.33 | Unknown | Does anyone else want to speak? |
| 03:38:17.66 | Ian Sobieski | It's just being fair to everybody who spoke before and after. So there are other speakers. Thank you very much. |
| 03:38:22.79 | Unknown | I wanted to hear the answers to my questions. |
| 03:38:25.86 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah, I'm sorry. The protocol is just public comment. It's not a Q&A opportunity, but I'm sure that I'm available and I may happen to meet with you directly. Okay. So please stay after and I'll start with you and you can approach any of us. We're all equally willing to engage with you, madam. |
| 03:38:33.34 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:38:33.36 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 03:38:33.78 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:38:33.80 | Unknown | Right. |
| 03:38:33.83 | Jill Hoffman | All right. There are definitely problems. |
| 03:38:40.44 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you very much. Ma'am, though, could you state her name? What is your name for the record? |
| 03:38:40.51 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you very much. Ma'am though, could she state her name? |
| 03:38:45.10 | Ian Sobieski | sunshine. |
| 03:38:48.86 | Walfred Solorzano | OK, I have no more speaker slips, but if you want to come up and speak, go ahead and step forward. |
| 03:38:57.12 | Linda Fodge | I'm Linda Fodge and I'm exhausted just thinking about what your year is going to be like. I'm really impressed. I have new respect for all of you. I have a couple of really small issues. Certainly don't want to overburden staff with them. So I'm thinking that you should reach out to your identified resource list, which was the community. And I think that the community can step up and do some of these things. Excuse me. The first one is technology. We don't have internet downtown. I think we have technology experts in our community, people that live here. And I think if you reach out and say, can you volunteer beyond this committee? I think that maybe they can solve these problems. The other one is public water access. And, you know, we have Yichachi Park. We have our fallen down dock pier, whatever you want to call it. Again, I think you should reach out to the community. Maybe Melissa will swim in the bay for us again and raise some money. And here's some very wealthy people in the community that I think would step up and really help put some of these things together. And maybe volunteer laptops for the previous lady. |
| 03:40:21.27 | Vicki Nichols | Vicki Nichols again, 117 Caledonia. Thank you for this session today. It's been good, especially the latter part. I think it gave us transparency of seeing how our individual council people prioritize what their wishes are, which we don't usually get to see. So that was great. Two things. One of all, I think it's important we had a lot of discussion about the Sea Lion. That is sponsored by the Sausalito Foundation. I don't think the city is clear about who owns what in the city. Does the city own the Sea Lion or the foundation? The same thing with the anchor at the walkway by Spinnaker. That's there's going to be a project there. The same thing with these other organizations that say they're going to do this or that on infrastructure. That needs to be cleared up, hopefully. But I want to bring you back to your strategic plan as I went through it. And I want to remind you of ways that you can be advancing your strategic plan. Number one under vision on page five, the plan cultivates its natural beauty, history, and arts and waterfront culture. It's right in there. So I'm going to hammer that one. On page, the second one under your goals, page eight, number three. under a strategy, protect historic resources. So I'm going to keep coming back. as the commission, because I think it's now more clear than ever that these are legal options we have to protect these resources, and we had better get on it. Thanks very much. |
| 03:41:52.52 | Walfred Solorzano | Go right up ahead. |
| 03:41:55.86 | Sharna Brockett | So I'm Sharna Brockett, and I just want to thank all of you. Can't even imagine how much time you put in or I've seen it, you know, I've just started looking and showing up and I have just so much respect for you and the staff. And I just wanted to highlight that. The 90, 10% rule and discussion was really helpful because there's so much going into just keeping the lights on and keeping us safe. And I just want to. Let you know I appreciate that. um, And And all, you know, all the work that you've done, you know, not just this last year, but it's the last 10, 15 years. And we're starting to see the results of that. So I just want to acknowledge that. And I also want to say like, You know, my earlier statement, I was saying like, it's not that hard to get it done. You know, I know that's annoying if you've been in the trenches and I just want to say that I meant no disrespect. I'm just like, this was a great conversation. Like, how do we. just get things done and simplify the process. So that was really eyeopening to me. So I just wanted to say I meant no disrespect and I really honor everything you're doing. And I get it as somebody who likes to get stuff done, it can get complicated and the whole stories and everything. So I just wanted to say that. And then I'm with South Salute of Beautiful. I'm not the president, so I can't, you know, but we want some of the same things. So I think there's this group of really engaged people, volunteers. So yeah, let us, let's get aligned and let's see what, where our passion and what you need to get done align and let's, we're here to help. So thank you. |
| 03:43:22.09 | Walfred Solorzano | All right. Anybody else in the house? All right, so we'll go to Zoom. We have Sybil Boutillier. |
| 03:43:29.02 | Unknown | Thank you. Yeah. I'm trying to start my video. It's not Here we go. So, oh, you can't see me anyway. And I just want to thank everybody for being here, giving up your Saturday mornings. And I think this was very illuminating for those of us in the audience. And I listened to every word and thought it was very interesting. I was surprised that the corporation was not on the list. I know it's been prioritized. We've had promises of money from the state and also from Marine Community Foundation. to move forward with the housing, if we can you know, find a way to, I know folks have been working on it, but I would love to see that kept up in the you know, priorities of Because speed could be important here. in terms of the funding that may be available. Um, And that has been suggested they would be available. So. I just wanted to mention that housing is so important for us to you know, keep in In the forefront of our thinking, we have a big lift there. So that's just one of many things that you mentioned that wasn't mentioned, but so many things you did mention that are important. I want to thank you all again. for the time you put into this. And for working with the community, there's a lot we're willing to do to help you And I hope you take advantage of that to the full extent. Thank you. |
| 03:45:17.12 | Walfred Solorzano | Okay, no further public comment. |
| 03:45:21.43 | Amy Haworth | I don't know. I think that we're absolutely done. with the first part of the process. Um, I, let's see. Oh, God. Oh, I really am going to give you my mares. I'm going to give you, he'll love this. Again, really, thank you. Thank you. It's really hard. It's really hard and it's going to be really useful. And I'm sorry, Chad, I didn't know you flew in. I would have like, you know, arms are hurt. But it's the beginning of a process. I'm, you know, always going to be available for you. That's kind of what I offer up. Like, you know, I'll be available by phone, by Zoom. I'll be talking to your city manager. This is a very self-serving comment. I will be sending around a quick survey. And, you know, I would really appreciate you taking five minutes to comment. And it doesn't have to be positive, whatever it is that you feel. But it really helps me do this better. And I just... I care so much about local government. A couple of you said it. I really care about all of you in local government. It's a really hard job and it's entirely crucial. So I just want to really help the most people I can. So thank you. Thank you, staff. And thank you, community, for your time. You're a very special community. |
| 03:46:39.27 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you very much, Amy. Manhattan Beach is lucky to have you. Thanks for your time today. We would like to adjourn the meeting, but first I hope everyone enjoys the Super Bowl today around our local restaurant. No, the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl, S-O-U-P-E-R, put on by our Parks and Rec with the cooperation of our local restaurants. Hardest to get tickets around, even harder than the Super Bowl. I've been having people email me all week trying to get tickets to our super bowl and they can't so enjoy the super bowl and the super bowl tomorrow we don't have unanimity apparently way of a chief span which i'm not sure that's allowed there's but uh go go 49ers and uh and then i would like to adjourn today's meeting in commemoration of an important cultural event for many people around the world, the Lunar New Year celebration. 2024 is the year of the dragon. Take care of the rest of your weekend and take good care. |
| 03:47:35.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:47:35.99 | Unknown | Right. |
| 03:47:36.28 | Unknown | Yeah. Thank you. |
| 03:47:38.91 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 03:47:38.93 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:47:39.25 | Unknown | to. |
| 03:47:39.30 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:47:39.40 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 03:47:39.45 | Unknown | Recording stopped. |