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| 00:00:07.83 | Unknown | Good evening, City Council. Tonight, meeting of October 7th, is being held at 14 local streets in Council City, in City, South Florida. It's also being broadcast live on Zoom. It's also being broadcast on the City website and on TV TV, 1027. |
| 00:00:27.61 | Unknown | Thank you, Mr. City Chair. Thank you, everyone, and welcome to the City Council meeting for Tuesday, October 7, 2025, at 5 p.m. at City Council's Chief Call Room. |
| 00:00:39.22 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:49.37 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:49.41 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 00:00:49.59 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. Oh, sorry. |
| 00:00:49.96 | Melissa Blaustein | We can see you. |
| 00:00:50.54 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:54.28 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Huffman. |
| 00:00:56.11 | Steven Woodside | Yes. Yes, we hear you. |
| 00:00:57.27 | Walfred Solorzano | Okay. Thank you. |
| 00:00:57.95 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 00:00:58.45 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Sobieski. |
| 00:01:00.05 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:01:00.14 | Walfred Solorzano | THE END OF |
| 00:01:00.17 | Unknown | Sure. |
| 00:01:00.29 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. Vice Mayor Woodside? Here. And Mary Cox? Here. |
| 00:01:03.73 | Steven Woodside | here. Great. We have two City Council members participating remotely. |
| 00:01:17.20 | Steven Woodside | So I must have an old agenda. We have both of them on the agenda, Mr. City Clerk? What, the addresses? Both of the addresses? |
| 00:01:24.25 | Walfred Solorzano | Yeah, yours was before, yeah. |
| 00:01:25.91 | Steven Woodside | Okay. And do we need to take A vote for. |
| 00:01:31.39 | Walfred Solorzano | Remote participation. |
| 00:01:32.78 | Steven Woodside | Remote participation by council member Sobieski. Thank you. |
| 00:01:35.63 | Walfred Solorzano | I'm not sure. |
| 00:01:35.68 | Steven Woodside | I'm not sure. |
| 00:01:35.73 | Walfred Solorzano | you know, |
| 00:01:36.00 | Steven Woodside | Yes. I move that we allow the remote, well, Council Member Sobieski, did you want to explain your remote appearance? |
| 00:01:46.88 | Janelle Sobieski | while I'm here in New York. I'm not using an emergency provision. It's probably duly noted that I'm doing remote attendance. |
| 00:01:53.33 | Steven Woodside | Okay, then we don't need a vote. Mr. City Attorney, we don't need a vote. Is that right, since we've published the locations of our two remote participants? |
| 00:02:02.93 | Sergio Rudin | Yes, that should be correct as long as they were published more than 72 hours before the meeting. Yes. |
| 00:02:08.63 | Steven Woodside | Okay, perfect. So then with that, I will move on to. Madam Mayor. |
| 00:02:15.00 | Jill Hoffman | I would like to confirm my location. Can you see Mount Fuji behind me? |
| 00:02:18.17 | Unknown | Ha ha ha ha. |
| 00:02:19.03 | Melissa Blaustein | I... |
| 00:02:19.25 | Unknown | I'm not. |
| 00:02:19.32 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. Can you see Mount Fuji behind Councilmember Hoffman? She's confirming her location. |
| 00:02:25.63 | Steven Woodside | Yes, Fujikawa. Gucci, go. |
| 00:02:28.92 | Melissa Blaustein | FOR THE RECORD, |
| 00:02:29.44 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:02:29.90 | Steven Woodside | Yes. Congratulations, and thank you for representing us at the Japanese Leadership Conference. Oh my gosh, what is that behind you, Mount Fuji? |
| 00:02:38.99 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:02:39.04 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 00:02:39.40 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:02:39.52 | Steven Woodside | Oh, that is phenomenal. That is phenomenal. |
| 00:02:43.58 | Jill Hoffman | Yes, the Japan United States Leadership Summit. AI. |
| 00:02:48.92 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:02:49.05 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:02:49.24 | Steven Woodside | for a sustainable world. There we are wonderful. Thank you so much for that. Our sister city relationships are so important. Okay, there are no special presentations or mayor's announcements tonight, so we will move right on to communications. This is the time for the city council to hear from citizens regarding matters within the jurisdiction of the city council that are not on the agenda. Except in very limited situations, state law precludes this council from taking action on or engaging in discussions concerning items that are not on the agenda. I have some speaker cards. Well, this is for, yeah. My first one is from Liz Goring. Welcome. |
| 00:03:37.53 | Lizanne Goring | Thank you for letting me speak today. Hi, my name is Lizanne Goring. I am a resident in Sausalito. My parents have lived here since 1992. My son was raised here. They live in the same house on South Street. And just so as you guys know, as you come around Alexander, they're one of the houses. We had the Great Danes. I'm sure people have seen us. My son was the kid on the two as we went from the city back and forth. So we have lived here for a long time. We have been very, very happy here. Our community, where we are, everyone has gotten along, outside of the random parking spot type of TIF type of thing. We've all actually done very well. This year, we ended up with a new resident that joined the community. They have struggled with the group and living kind of in peace. And that is normal. People move. They come in with their own agendas. That is perfectly fine. WHAT HAS BEEN A STRUGGLE HERE IS THAT THERE ARE FIVE, THERE ARE FOUR HOMES INVOLVED. There are five tenants involved, of which only one group is antagonizing the whole group. So the rest of the community is really struggling with this, and they're really challenged by it. So what's happening is that, and the reason why I'm speaking today is that I feel like from A building and codes perspective, the team is doing great here. I think Justin is wonderful. I think the group has done very well. But what has been a challenge is that I don't feel like from a prioritization or from the code perspective, are they able to help us get to resolution? So the groups, you know, that's all living there together, is all living in a very tense situation and they're not able to get to the resolution that they need. And if the code was a little bit more facilitated, which I know is on the agenda to help improve, But if they're able to prioritize because there are so many people involved in this, I think that would really help in the community. with my parents being 80 years old. And they're right over there. They, you know, it's a struggle, right? And I don't think it's really fair. And so I think what I'm asking or having you guys reflect on is the fact that in able to look at the prioritization or the code is be able to look at it, so. I think I hit my two minutes, so thank you. |
| 00:05:46.09 | Steven Woodside | Can you tell me what staff member you've been working with? Thank you. |
| 00:05:49.48 | Lizanne Goring | Justin, he's great, so we like him. |
| 00:05:49.51 | Steven Woodside | Justine. OK. So we like them. All right. |
| 00:05:52.74 | Lizanne Goring | Yeah. |
| 00:05:52.94 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. All right, next, Sophia Collier, welcome. |
| 00:06:02.40 | Sophia Collier | Hello. I'm here on the issue of Measure K. and that I received this mailing from friends, and then I also received this mailing from the city. AND THAT UNFORTUNATELY IN THE MAILING FROM THE CITY, IT ACTUALLY CONTAINS SOME TYPO. So it mischaracterizes the measure K as the old version, the old verbish. and indicating that it is subject to a 32-foot height limit rather than the new verbiage, which is maintaining a building height limit. |
| 00:06:27.16 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 00:06:27.30 | Steven Woodside | THE FAMILY. |
| 00:06:27.48 | Carolyn Revell | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:06:35.14 | Steven Woodside | which is 32 feet. |
| 00:06:36.36 | Sophia Collier | Rich is 32 feet. But the point that I'm saying is that unfortunately, this there is in the community confusion. and that unfortunately this document didn't help to alleviate that confusion. So I support Measure K. I am one of the people who is at MLK. I have 3,000 square feet there. And although I'm a renter, I do not have the right to remain there for my entire career. as much as I might wish to. The building is old. I would love to see it as a senior home. I think that's a great outcome, so I support it. I know the city will be assisting us folks in moving but I do support it. But I think that given the confusion that's going on that we might A REALLY GOOD MOVE ON THE PART OF THE COUNCIL WOULD BE IF EVERYBODY TOOK THE PLEDGE, PLEDGE 32, AND TO SAY, WE WILL NOT do anything. contracting with any kind of outside developer to change from the plan of 50 units at 32 feet. And I feel like a strong pledge from the council of that nature. A public pledge may be written. Obviously, it doesn't have the force of law, but indicates what people want. This would go a long way toward alleviating the distrust and perhaps confusion that may have resulted |
| 00:07:54.42 | Steven Woodside | Thank you so much for that. I will say also that the city has a website, so I'm gonna ask our assistant city manager to be sure that we clarify any miscommunication between the city and what the voter initiative actually said on the city's website devoted to Measure K. |
| 00:08:11.50 | Unknown | Absolutely, Mayor. Yeah, we're happy to do that. Thank you. |
| 00:08:13.71 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:08:13.73 | Sophia Collier | I will briefly note that even the state of California had to send out a correction notice, and I received that at the same time. |
| 00:08:20.90 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Yeah, and so I will bring this up during future agenda items this evening. Thank you so much, Sophia. All right, next is Jonathan Harris. |
| 00:08:35.41 | Steven Woodside | Hello. |
| 00:08:36.29 | Jonathan Harris | Thank you very much. Appreciate it. I'm regarding Measure K. I'm undecided. And I'm still trying to evaluate things. And I also received those two pieces in the mail. and If I'm confused, I think there's residents out there that are also confused. And I went down to the park and there were some people driving through and they were looking and pointing and they had some odd looks on their faces as if they didn't really understand. 32 feet to me is something that's really hard to visualize. And I don't, there's no story polls out there. And I don't recall that there's ever been any story polls. And it would also be nice if there could have been some lights that were put out there that would have shown what the new lumens would have been for the area at night. So without the lack of being able to really see what 32 feet is with some story poles or maybe some lights out there at night, It seems like we're in the 11th hour here, and that could still maybe be fixed so that the public could get a real gauge on what the heights minimum and maximum could be. Thank you. |
| 00:09:50.61 | Steven Woodside | Thank you so much. May I just ask you, have you seen the renderings that are on the city's website for the proposed development? |
| 00:09:56.97 | Jonathan Harris | I have, yes. |
| 00:09:57.51 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 00:09:57.91 | Jonathan Harris | Yeah, but it's still... to be at the building if there were some story polls out there on the four corners of I think would really serve a purpose very well. Thank you. Thank you so much. |
| 00:10:10.65 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, and Mayor, just to not add to the confusion, there's no approved project for. So even though there's some renderings out there, there's no approved projects, even though there's renderings, they're just conceptual. There's no. |
| 00:10:15.12 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 00:10:21.54 | Jill Hoffman | approved projects for this site. Nothing's gone through the Planning Commission. There's no approved anything at any height. |
| 00:10:31.04 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:10:31.05 | Jill Hoffman | That's right. |
| 00:10:31.17 | Steven Woodside | That's right. All right, next speaker is... Carolyn Revell. |
| 00:10:39.68 | Carolyn Revell | Welcome. Good evening. I'm with Sausalito Beautiful, as you know. Several current public works projects have involved cutting down mature trees, three on Caledonia in front of Smitty's, three as part of the Bridgeway Improvement Project that is creating sidewalk bulbouts for pedestrian crossing. We've been told by DPW that if possible, new trees will be added in these locations. We appreciate the concern for pedestrian safety, including where tree roots have raised the paving. causing tripping hazards. We advocate for removing diseased trees, as in the ongoing project to remove diseased cal repairs on downtown Bridgeway, and replace them with appropriate trees. but cutting down healthy, mature trees in an era of climate change should be the last option considered Susley the Beautiful has asked DPW to explore alternatives to removing mature trees by trying some of the techniques Bartlett tree experts recommends in a technical report, paving around or over tree roots using flexible paving. We've offered to be part of a case study of using such an approach. Secondly, we propose that the council adopt a policy when one tree has to be removed on a major street these two new trees should be added in maintenance provided. Funding for street trees should be included in the annual CIP. The city of Larkspur has lined Central Magnolia Avenue with new trees in recent years. I was there today. and greatly enhance the beauty of their downtown. Let's make Sausalito a leader in planting and maintaining our street trees. |
| 00:12:08.86 | Steven Woodside | Thank you so much. And Carolyn, can you say again, you said it at the very beginning, what area you're discussing? |
| 00:12:09.08 | Carolyn Revell | And- |
| 00:12:14.03 | Carolyn Revell | At the moment, people have been calling us, and I've been taking photos, and we all have. There are three trees that were removed in front of smitties because of the tree roots disrupting the sidewalk. We had notice of that. Andy Davidson gave me a heads up. We appreciated that. It was mentioned in currents also. And then there are at least three trees as part of the Bridgeway Improvement Project where they're doing the sidewalk bulb outs. and I think Kevin McGowan said one tree, but actually I think there McGowan said one tree, but actually I think there are three trees that I noticed there. And he also has mentioned that the plan is to replace trees and we'd love to be part of discussion of what tree AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE He mentioned calorie repairs, but those are the ones that are diseased, so we don't think that's the great choice. |
| 00:12:55.45 | Steven Woodside | And has Sausalito Beautiful reached out to Director McGowan? Yes, yes. We've been having communication. |
| 00:12:58.34 | Carolyn Revell | Yes. Thank you. |
| 00:13:00.28 | Steven Woodside | So what is it that you're asking the council to do beyond what you |
| 00:13:03.03 | Carolyn Revell | already. |
| 00:13:03.54 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:13:03.55 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 00:13:03.76 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:13:03.81 | Carolyn Revell | Basically, be aware. |
| 00:13:03.88 | Steven Woodside | I reached out to. |
| 00:13:05.80 | Carolyn Revell | of this is an issue. that really it's just so sad to be chopping down mature trees, even though they're good reasons sometimes. Let's look at alternatives. We're asking your staff. to look at alternatives, and then to adopt a policy the Climate Action Plan that you adopted years ago recommends a certain number of trees be planted each year So I'm suggesting a policy that says when One tree is removed. At least the city should always replant one tree or maybe two trees. Thank you so much. |
| 00:13:33.34 | Steven Woodside | Thank you so much. Is there anyone online, city clerk? |
| 00:13:39.58 | Walfred Solorzano | We see one person, Adrian Brenton. |
| 00:13:43.67 | Steven Woodside | Welcome, Adrian. |
| 00:13:46.69 | Adrian Brinton | Thanks very much for taking my comment. I just also wanted to comment quickly on the confusion on Measure K. |
| 00:13:47.85 | Walfred Solorzano | I'm taking my comments. |
| 00:13:48.81 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:13:48.90 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 00:13:48.97 | Carolyn Revell | I'm not. |
| 00:13:53.00 | Adrian Brinton | I also received the postcard talking about the 32-foot height limit and how it had been And I know there was a lot of discussion about that, and it seemed like we had kind of made some progress in understanding And then yesterday I received two more emails that were sent out to the community that say, and I quote from the email, the city council removed the 32 foot height limit in Measure K's ballot language. Now height limit is not a certainty. |
| 00:14:11.44 | Carolyn Revell | Bye. |
| 00:14:21.28 | Adrian Brinton | Again, I was super concerned by that. So I read the ballot language full text measure, which says, They quote again, and would be subject to applicable 32-foot height limits So it does seem that there is confusion, but it also does seem that we have people actively trying to increase that confusion, and I think that's going to make your job as our city council much more difficult. So I hope that you're able to counter this and get the correct information out to the community. so people can make an informed decision when they cast server. Thank you. |
| 00:14:58.51 | Steven Woodside | Thank you so much. All right. |
| 00:15:01.49 | Adrian Brinton | Thank you. |
| 00:15:01.97 | Walfred Solorzano | comment. |
| 00:15:02.37 | Adrian Brinton | Thank you. |
| 00:15:02.39 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 00:15:02.61 | Steven Woodside | All right, that ends our communications. We will now turn to our consent calendar. Matters listed under the consent calendar are considered routine and non-controversial, require no discussion, are expected to have unanimous council support, and may be enacted by the council in one motion in the form listed below. Folks, I apologize. We did not have approval of our agenda on the agenda tonight. And I am actually going to request that we remove items 3D and 3E. We are rescheduling those items for our consent calendar on October 21st, two weeks from tonight. With that, does anybody wish to pull any item from consent? Any council member? All right, seeing none, whose hand is raised? That's someone else. That's the speaker. Okay, I will open it up for public comment. I have no speaker cards. |
| 00:15:53.92 | Walfred Solorzano | It's a speaker. |
| 00:15:59.15 | Walfred Solorzano | That is correct. And we have, |
| 00:16:02.28 | Steven Woodside | Okay. for the consent calendar. Is this for the consent calendar ma'am? |
| 00:16:09.25 | Maike Stefanie | Oh, Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:16:11.73 | Steven Woodside | Oh, we just finished that, but please go ahead. You almost missed it. |
| 00:16:16.38 | Maike Stefanie | Thank you. Yeah, I'm ready. This is in regards to my claim against the city and the city's... You name yourself? Yeah. |
| 00:16:32.47 | Maike Stefanie | My name is Maike Stefanie. Yes. And I'm at 27 Central Avenue. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. I would like to address the city's increasing lack of transparency and my claim against the city that I submitted last week. I would like to address the city Council's recent violations of the Brown Act, its consequences and remedies, and a perfect example is the following. Before the scheduled City Council hearing on April 15, 2025, you failed to provide the public with an agenda that is sufficiently described a certain item to be discussed. You announced it as approval of the expansion of a second floor deck, referring to potential view impacts. This is interpreted as proposed plans and does not sound as alarming as the true description of the agenda item should have been, which is coerced demolition of a fully permitted and completed addition upon a neighbor's six-month late appeal. This is violation of the state law, chapter 2.7, and your non-duly noticed hearing resulted in an undisclosed action taking a vote or discussing an item that was not properly listed on the agenda, which is a violation of the Brown Act. Along with this, misleading |
| 00:18:20.82 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:18:21.87 | Maike Stefanie | Thank you. |
| 00:18:21.88 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Yeah, that's it. Okay. I will just respond briefly that, |
| 00:18:23.34 | Maike Stefanie | Okay. |
| 00:18:28.43 | Steven Woodside | uh, The issues that you are raising were brought up before the City Council and overruled by the City Council as part of its April 15, 2025 decision. Government Code Section 65009C1 provides that the statute of limitations to challenge the City Council's determinations on this matter is 90 days. And so you will be receiving a response from the City Attorney regarding the claim that you have submitted. Yeah. So thank God. IS 90 DAYS. YOU WILL BE RECEIVING A RESPONSE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING THE CLAIM THAT YOU HAVE SUBMITTED. |
| 00:18:58.42 | Unknown | Yeah, I have a ready. |
| 00:19:00.90 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 00:19:00.95 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:19:01.67 | Steven Woodside | Thank you so much for showing up and providing us your perspective. No. |
| 00:19:08.00 | Maike Stefanie | Thank you. |
| 00:19:09.34 | Walfred Solorzano | But, Hi, sorry, can you give it to me, please? Thank you. |
| 00:19:18.13 | Steven Woodside | All right, with that, |
| 00:19:20.80 | Walfred Solorzano | Next speaker is Heather. |
| 00:19:21.00 | Steven Woodside | Speaker. And this is on the consent calendar? |
| 00:19:24.52 | Walfred Solorzano | Yes, I assume that. |
| 00:19:26.28 | Steven Woodside | Hi, welcome Heather. I'm sorry. |
| 00:19:29.16 | Heather | Can you hear me? |
| 00:19:30.14 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:19:30.16 | Heather | Yes. Great, thank you. My name is Heather and I wanted to address Measure K if that's okay? Thank you. |
| 00:19:38.70 | Steven Woodside | Okay, we've already finished up our public comment, but go ahead. |
| 00:19:43.44 | Lizanne Goring | I'm going to announce for the record. |
| 00:19:44.72 | Steven Woodside | I'm going to announce for the record that we will be not taking any further communications. We've already started consideration of our consent calendar, but go ahead, Heather. |
| 00:19:53.84 | Heather | Okay, I'll just start by saying for the record, I did raise my hand during Number one, people should vote no on measure K. Your four votes, Joan, Stephen, Ian, and Melissa, on yes for Kay, in my opinion, set a dangerous precedent. if you continue to push this and people vote yes, It will set a dangerous precedent for all our Sausalito parks. This park, MLK, which I live across the street from, allow space for teams and other towns to play sports with our children. while you're not taking away green space. You're taking away parking. you expect there to be less parking for park activities. the dog park and two schools. Schools, which you guys know, our profit centers for Sausalito. You're risking potentially losing these contracts if the schools breach them due to the logistical nightmares the situation could create. I reviewed the renderings. and the scale in which you created them. is if a developer for the senior center made them for ants, The whole thing feels pretty rushed to me and lacks real innovation in considering better sites that don't set this precedent for parks. But we'll back up a little bit and I'll just say the original assessment of Sausalito was wrong. resulting in more houses being required than we really needed. People are learning. that the council lied down in the face of this. and didn't do much more. Then write a letter. Now I hear you saying we are out of compliance. I read the arguments. |
| 00:21:32.59 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, that's the end of your two minutes. Thank you. |
| 00:21:37.11 | Walfred Solorzano | All right, next speaker we have is Babette McDougall. |
| 00:21:42.97 | Steven Woodside | Is this on the consent calendar, Ms. McDougal? Good evening. Thank you. |
| 00:21:46.85 | Babette McDougall | Yes, I'm tuning in rather late, so I apologize that I too missed the public comment. Well, I'm going to honor your directive, Madam, and not try to impose it now. I just want to make sure since I'm only tuning in, what about the disposition of item 3D like David? |
| 00:21:51.83 | Steven Woodside | But I'm going to honor you. |
| 00:22:03.50 | Steven Woodside | We have removed 3D and 3E are removed from the consent calendar this evening. |
| 00:22:08.35 | Babette McDougall | All right, thank you so much. And with that back, I yield the balance of my time. |
| 00:22:13.04 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:22:14.81 | Walfred Solorzano | No further public comment. |
| 00:22:14.88 | Steven Woodside | for Republic of the Commons? Thank you. All right. So I will entertain a motion approving through items 3A through 3C and 3F through 3L of the consent calendar. |
| 00:22:26.05 | Steven Woodside | So moved. |
| 00:22:26.62 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 00:22:27.82 | Steven Woodside | Second, City Clerk, would you please call roll? |
| 00:22:30.91 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Dalstein? |
| 00:22:32.29 | Steven Woodside | Yes, please. |
| 00:22:33.27 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Hoffman. |
| 00:22:39.09 | Walfred Solorzano | I'm going to mute yourself. Yes. All right. Council member Sobieski. |
| 00:22:40.58 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 00:22:41.20 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:22:42.96 | Walfred Solorzano | Yes. Vice Mayor Woodside? Yes. Mayor Cox? |
| 00:22:46.79 | Steven Woodside | Yes. The consent calendar passes unanimously. There are no public hearing items this evening, so we will move on to business items. The first item is second reading and adoption of ordinance number 08-2025, an ordinance of the City Council of the City of Sausalito, repealing chapter 2.1 to And enacting chapter 12.12, vehicle habitation, we will have a staff report. Typically, this is an item that would be on the consent calendar, but a couple of council members raised some questions as we were processing our initial vote on this. and so I've placed it on the agenda as a business item to ensure that anyone who wishes to question or speak can do so. So city manager. |
| 00:23:46.49 | Chris Zapata | CAN OUR CITY ATTORNEY LAY OUT THIS FOR THE PUBLIC AND THE |
| 00:23:51.01 | Sergio Rudin | Yes, so this was introduced at the prior regular meeting by 3-2 vote was introduced. The proposed ordinance would modify the chapter 1212 of the city municipal code to the city's existing vehicle habitation prohibition to provide additional definitions as to what counts as prohibited activity. Additionally, the city has a eight-hour parking restriction, which was adopted prior to the current vehicle code. And that proposed eight hour parking restriction for, um, campers and similar kinds of vehicles citywide would be repealed. That being said, the city does have an overall 72-hour parking limit for all vehicles on public streets, which the city has used to ensure that vehicles are kindly moved and do not, you know, become a eyesore and that vehicles that are broken down or otherwise not maintain, do not litter the city streets. I know the city's police chief is also available for questions. I believe she is participating by Zoom tonight. Um, And if there are any questions of the city council, I'm happy to answer them. |
| 00:25:14.11 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Any questions of the city attorney. I'm not seeing any hands raised. OK. Then I will open this up for public comment. I have no speaker cards. |
| 00:25:31.02 | Walfred Solorzano | And we don't have anybody online. |
| 00:25:31.34 | Steven Woodside | We'll be right back. All right, then I will close public comment and bring it up here for discussion I'm going to go ahead and move that we waive second reading that we that we undertake second reading and adoption of ordinance number 08-2025 An ordinance of the City Council of the City of Sausalito repealing chapter 12.12, And in Acting Chapter 1, 2, 1.12 vehicle habitation. |
| 00:25:59.65 | Sophia Collier | second. |
| 00:26:00.92 | Steven Woodside | And I'll open it up for discussion. |
| 00:26:02.96 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah, I mean, again, my position on this hasn't changed. I have the same feeling that I take issue with, and I, again, with all due respect to the police department and the way that they handle our issues with compassion first I truly appreciate the Saucena Police Department and their Dedication and commitment to our community and the way that they lead with compassion that being said I think they're doing an excellent job of that without adding an additional ordinance that criminalizes things like keeping a sleeping bag in your car So I will continue to be unable to support the initiative. So my vote will be no Thank you. |
| 00:26:38.26 | Steven Woodside | If I can just add, I raised a few questions last time, not to hold it up, but to clarify that when we eliminate the eight hour rule, we might have some unintended consequences. And I ask that the staff, the city attorney, and the chief consider coming back to us at some future date with some alternatives for us to consider for what concerns me is parking of oversized vehicles on our narrow streets. I don't have a solution in mind. I, I do want the city attorney though, and the police chief to take a look and be able to advise us what alternatives we may have and get, get a, get their take on whether that would be useful here in our, our town. |
| 00:27:23.40 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:27:23.77 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:27:25.04 | Steven Woodside | Anything from Councilmembers Hoffman or Sobieski? OK, I'm seeing the shake. Oh, yes, Councilmember Hoffman, go ahead. |
| 00:27:32.84 | Jill Hoffman | Yes, I would agree with Council Member, or sorry, Vice Mayor Woodside's comments that we remain agile. as we move forward and see how this See how this works out. and, um, then come back to council if we need to adjust. or the framework of how we've amended our ordinance moving forward. Thank you. So thank you. |
| 00:27:59.90 | Steven Woodside | Great. Okay, we have a motion and a second. City clerk, would you please call roll. |
| 00:28:06.45 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Blaustein. |
| 00:28:08.07 | Steven Woodside | No. |
| 00:28:08.39 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:28:09.49 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Hoffman. |
| 00:28:11.04 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. |
| 00:28:12.31 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Sobieski. |
| 00:28:12.64 | Carolyn Revell | Bye. |
| 00:28:12.68 | Janelle Sobieski | I'm sorry. |
| 00:28:13.96 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. |
| 00:28:15.41 | Walfred Solorzano | Vice Mayor Woodside? Yes. And Mayor Cox? |
| 00:28:19.19 | Steven Woodside | Yes, that motion carries for one. All right, item 5B is receive and file the report from CSW ST2 regarding the Sausalito storm drain assessment study and authorize the city engineer to proceed with the development of bid documents to repair storm drain systems listed in attachment 5 and Welcome to Kevin McGowan our Public Works director |
| 00:28:42.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:28:42.82 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. Good evening, Mayor, members of the City Council. We do have a presentation that we'd like to bring up this evening, if you could do that. And while you're doing that, I will just state that, boy, don't these new lights look wonderful. For those who might be in Japan or New York, you are missing it. There are great new lights in the city council chamber. |
| 00:29:02.96 | Unknown | THEIR OWNERS. |
| 00:29:04.01 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:29:04.03 | Unknown | Thank you. to |
| 00:29:05.02 | Steven Woodside | uh, |
| 00:29:06.02 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:29:06.04 | Steven Woodside | I think it's a great opportunity to do that. I think it's a great opportunity to do that. I think it's a great opportunity to do that. I think it's a great opportunity to do that. I think it's a great opportunity to do that. I think it's a great opportunity to do that. |
| 00:29:17.04 | Unknown | so |
| 00:29:18.34 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:29:18.36 | Unknown | provide amazing illumination. We like it. Thank you, Sarah Korshidafard, for helping us with that. |
| 00:29:24.97 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
| 00:29:25.29 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, Sarah, who's here with us tonight as well. |
| 00:29:26.56 | Kevin McGowan | with that. How are we doing with our presentation over there, city clerk? |
| 00:29:34.23 | Kevin McGowan | So this evening we have a presentation for item 5B, which relates to the city's storm drain system. And our consultant, CSW Stuber-Stroh, has put together a draft analysis of our storm drain systems. We still have a little bit more to go. In other words, we've They've done most all of the work with the exception of finalizing the video of taking a look at the insides of each one of these pipes or these culverts. So this evening we have Rich Souza from CSW Stuber-Stroh to help us with the presentation and walk us through his report. So, Rich, if you're ready. |
| 00:30:12.56 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. You ready? Thank you. |
| 00:30:13.86 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
| 00:30:13.94 | Chris Zapata | Mayor, while we're waiting for a consultant to come up, if I can say a few words about this, I'd like to do that. |
| 00:30:19.80 | Steven Woodside | Yes, please. |
| 00:30:20.69 | Chris Zapata | One of the superpowers. |
| 00:30:20.88 | Steven Woodside | And I do want to also acknowledge this is one of the city's priorities adopted at the beginning of the year. And so I'm so pleased to be seeing this report and recommendation this year. |
| 00:30:32.23 | Chris Zapata | THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, MAYOR. UH-OH. THAT'S OKAY. YOU DID STATE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WAS A PRIORITY. WITHIN THE INFRASTRUCTURE BASKET WERE STREETS, STORM DRAIN, SIDEWALKS, AND STAIRS. AND SO FOLLOWING THROUGH, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE BRING THIS FORWARD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE KNOW IS STORM DRAINS ARE IMPORTANT IN EVENTS THAT COULD COMPROMISE WHAT IS THE MAGIC OF SAUSALIDO, WHICH IS RICHARDSON BAY. SO ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO START TO GET ON THE RIGHT TRACK IN TERMS OF AN APPROACH AND WORK ON OUR STORM DRAIN SYSTEM IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. THANK YOU. |
| 00:30:33.87 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 00:31:11.21 | Rich Souza | Thank you. |
| 00:31:11.23 | Steven Woodside | And Rich goes, |
| 00:31:12.03 | Rich Souza | Go ahead. |
| 00:31:12.24 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:31:12.28 | Rich Souza | Thank you. All right, well, thank you, Kevin and Sarah and members of the council for taking. This time and given us the opportunity to walk your beautiful streets and assess your storm drain system. So we've looked at, maybe next slide. We looked at over 600 structures, storm drain catch basins, inlets, outlets. We also looked and reviewed over 2000 linear feet of pipe underground. And so with that, what we did was we were trying to build a comprehensive and data-driven base for developing future improvement plans and your cost assessments. And what today we're going to do, what I'm going to do is walk you through our findings, our estimates that we believe are the most severe and intimate failure type structures and pipes, and then provide recommendations and it will open up for discussion. Next slide. |
| 00:32:08.35 | Rich Souza | So Sausalito is an older city, as we all know. And so what we typically see with older cities are some interesting structures and materials that we don't often see today and wouldn't see today. So the sewer, maybe some of you know this, but sewer storm drain systems were connected directly to the bay back in the early 20th century. It wasn't until the 1950s where you started having protecting the bay, BCDC, and some of these, a lot of these organizations that are founded to protect the bay separated the sewer from the storm drain system. So we do see a lot of interesting pipes out there, but we didn't smell anything. So that was a good thing. So one of the things that I'd like to go through is what we were tasked to do and listed up there are our project goals. And what we've completed today, you'll see with the checkmark on there. So we've done our site assessment, gone out there, looked at every single structure that we could find. And we've also CCTV, so running a camera through about 5% of your pipes. As Kevin indicated, we still need to get some of the reports. We haven't received all of them, and that'll be helpful for us in developing our future cost estimates and prioritizing some of the repairs and also updating our report. And as part of our project, our goals is also to present today and and discuss in Open it up for discussion. So next slide, please |
| 00:33:00.21 | Carolyn Revell | But... |
| 00:33:00.26 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:33:00.60 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 00:33:41.49 | Rich Souza | So what I'd like to do and take the time right now is I'm going to be talking about catch basins, inverts, whatever. I want to kind of just walk you through what we're looking at here. So when I say we've assessed it over 600 structures, what we're looking at are what you see in the streets today. And so a catch basin is what you'll typically see where there's a curb and gutter. And so what it is is you'll see a graded inlet, and in the back of the curb there's a throat that allows water to flow through. This is what you commonly see today and what we designed for because it provides a lot of infiltration into the storm drain system, and so it doesn't bypass. Drainage inlets are something that you typically see where it's out in the open, so at somebody's driveway or up on a hillside. And so there are no catch basins. These are high-maintenance items. We try to avoid them when we can. Inlet structures. So what we see here, we're collecting waters, Sausalito's below the highway. So there are some inlet structures up above the very older structures. A lot of times we see this corrugated metal pipe and rusted pipe in there. But they're taking in water from typically a drainage swell, and then they outlet to either a water body or in some cases back into the street. which again is not very common to put it back in the street, but you have an older city here. Storm drain manholes, what you see in the street are the round two-foot diameter cylinders that are typically at intersections, and those provide access for your maintenance crews to clean the pipe. And drainage vaults, they're the same thing, but typically we see the vaults in locations that are on hillsides or areas where it's really hard to construct a storm drain manhole because of the concrete structure and then outlet structures. There's various types and very innovative structures that we see that are taking water that's collected from the streets and then diverting it out again, either to a drainage well or into a pipe that runs out to a water body. Next slide, please. And so there's different types of pipes that we were looking at, and I'll discuss each of them briefly. Corrugated metal pipe is an older pipe. It's metal. It rusts, and we've seen a lot of that. We focused a lot of our attention on these metal pipes because these create a lot of potential hazards. Thank you. They rust out through the bottom and they can leak, causing collapse in your streets if they're underneath your streets or if they're up above grade, running down a steep hillside, and the water is going to cause extensive erosion. Vitrified clay pipe is not something that we see typically in storm drain systems. It's more of a sewer-type style pipe. They're brittle. They do have good flow capacity. However, tree roots and structurally, they're not what we typically use today. And we did not see a lot of vitrified clay pipe. Reinforced concrete pipe is more common today. So it's a concrete pipe, again, smooth, rewalled, reinforced, good underneath roadways. High-density polyethylene is more of a newer pipe that we see that, again, it has a smooth lining, and it allows high capacity. So it flows more water typically than what you would get out of a concrete pipe or a vitrified clay or any of the other pipes because of that smooth interior so we do see a lot of HTPE and plastic pipes again we see plastic pipes in areas where there's constraints where it's a smaller style smaller pipe that's needed because maybe there's a some conflict or it's a shallow drain inlet. It's more modern, provides high flows capacity. I'll move to the next one, please. So what is the purpose and need of a storm drain system? So the intent of the storm drain system is to convey water from point A up above down to a point B. And to do so in a way that prevents environmental hazards and public health threats. A leaky pipe can lead to erosion, especially on the hillsides. If you have a leaky pipe, it can also undermine your roadways. Same with your structures. So importance can't be understated on maintaining a storm drain system, especially when you have materials, older materials that are corrosive. Next slide, please. |
| 00:38:23.37 | Rich Souza | So, Going back to how many structures we evaluated, so here's a list for you of the different types of structures that we had seen out there and opened up, inspected, took pictures. And what we did was we verified all the different types of pipe that were coming into and out of these structures. And what we saw are all different sorts of materials used, different shapes and sizes, locations. Some areas, theyOME AREAS THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE THE GRADES JUST WEREN'T FLOWING TO THEM. SO THERE'S SOME THAT WILL BE THAT WE ASSESS THESE AND GAVE THEM A RATING, BASICALLY A ONE TO FIVE RATING. BUT WHAT WE DO IN THE REPORT IS WE LIST THEM FROM IMMINENT FAILURE TO MAJOR SEVERE DEFECTS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS. And so that will help the city. failure to major severe defects all the way down to no significant impacts and so that will help the city in turn develop their capital improvement project list as we can go through later on so next slide please These are the locations. So through our assessment, we looked at and we were trying to, what we did was map out the structures that were either imminent failure or in severe distress, something that should be replaced as soon as possible. And we put a mark out here. They didn't show consistency. They were varied throughout the city. Whereas you'll see some of these, the corrugated metal pipe are located typically in, they're concentrated down kind of the lower areas. But what we'll see is some of the structures that they were installed in areas that are older. They use brick materials or they were just incredibly shallow and weren't efficient. Next slide, please. And so here's some pictures showing some of the defects that we've seen in the storm and the structures. So cracking was one of the issues that we see when you have cracking that leads to intrusion from groundwater, potentially just getting roots in there and plugging up the system even more, creating more of a maintenance headache for your DPW staff. seeing wooden structures almost fell through on this one because there's a major hole on the other side of it because the pipe had corroded so this was a little this was a safety hazard no it's there's no public access out there but it's one of those structures that's off the side of the road and you forget about them Again, talking about corrosion, some of the cast iron or some of the metal grates are corroding, or they're just in general in bad shape. Next slide, please. one of the issues I wanted to bring up now these aren't maybe may not have a structural deficiency it may be even be be modern but we saw a lot of catch basins even in the downtown areas that were less than 24 inches what does that mean is to me what it means is it's going to be a real headache for your maintenance crews because they plug up very easily They don't have a lot of storage capacity. and they were probably installed after the street was and there was a lot of issues trying to put a deeper storm drain system in and tie it into an existing storm drain system that was already shallow. So again, shallow structures, it may not be imminent failure, but they may not even, they may not even have any significant structural defects, but as in terms of capacity for your storm drain system. It's they're probably undersized at that point. BRICK STRUCTURES, AGAIN, WE'VE SEEN MULTIPLE BRICK STRUCTURES OUT THERE. AGAIN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT INTRUSION OF WATER AND GETTING MORE CAPACITY, GETTING YOUR STORM DRAID SYSTEM INNUDIATED WITH GROUNDWATER. AND SO WHEN YOU GET THOSE HEAVY RAINS, ESPECIALLY LATE IN THE YEAR, GROUNDWATER LEVELS COME UP REALLY HIGH, ESPECIALLY ON THE HILLSIDE, AND THEN THEY JUST TIE RIGHT INTO YOUR STORM DRAID SYSTEM. SOME OF THE STRUCTURES WERE LOCATED IN AREAS AS YOU CAN SEE THAT WOULDN'T MEET TODAY'S ADA COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS. SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. |
| 00:42:01.27 | Unknown | or not again. |
| 00:42:01.97 | Carolyn Revell | BRICS STRUCTURE. |
| 00:42:37.34 | Rich Souza | So we also looked at, I know Kevin's a big bike advocate, so he honed in on this one right away. So the grates that are out there, there's bike-compliant grates. I'm looking at your bike routes. We did identify over a dozen different grates that could be potential hazards. They want to meet a Caltrans standards, which is typically a 3 8 inch opening with in the in the The direction of the direction of travel with with a bar that goes every three and a half inches To prevent the bike tire from going into it. Some of the the cast iron grates also have depressions so they're depressed to allow more capacity to into the actual catch basin. But if you're riding on a bike, you hit that bump, you're gonna feel it. And also we were talking about some of those shallower storm drain structures, what happens with those? They build up with leaf litter. Again, you're on a bike, you see something massive in front of you and you react and you jump out into traffic. So again, a lot of these things were identified and we're reporting those to the DPW staff. Next slide, please. Now pedestrian grates, so there's a heel-proof grate. At your crosswalks, you should have an opening in your grate no more than a quarter inch. It's very small. And there are locations where that's not currently the case. Again, we've identified those locations at your crossings that could potentially be an issue and be out of compliance with today's ADA standards for heel-proof grates. Next slide, please. |
| 00:44:22.64 | Rich Souza | So what we also, again, looked at all the, we looked at about approximately 5% of your storm drain pipes. And we focused again on the corrugated metal pipes. These pipes are the ones that rust. Your storm drain systems, a lot of them are well over 50 years. You can imagine that what happens over time is that the pipe starts, becomes structurally inefficient, bottoms corrode and then they start eroding and so we focused again on looking at the the inspection reports we did receive at least half of them and based on what we've seen about half of your corrugated metal pipes are in either imminent failure or severe defects or and and And that means... PIPES ARE IN EITHER IMMINENT FAILURE OR SEVERE DEFECTS. THAT MEANS YOUR CORRUGATED METAL PIPE MAKES UP ABOUT 9% OF YOUR STORM BRAIN SYSTEM. IT'S A SIGNIFICANT ENDEAVOR AND WE WOULD Continuing the CCTV and getting more pipes. So and taking a look at it. So next slide, please Just looking at the locations again They're focused more down kind of towards the lowland areas of Sausalito You can see a couple of the images in here where there's Maybe half a pipe left, you know, it's that's what we're seeing in a lot of these CCTV videos Sometimes Sometimes it's just one little location for whatever reason. There might be a blockage. Maybe AT&T ran a pipe right through yours. You know, those are the type of things that we see and get triggered on this assessment. So, againATED ONE THROUGH FIVE. FIVE BEING THE WORST CASE AND ONE BEING NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. Again, just showing some images here of the corrosion that we're seeing. These are all different pipes where the corrosion is rusted out the bottom and it's starting to erode the soil beneath the pipe. And what happens is eventually you'll start seeing that pipe, the top of the pipe coming down. And then if there's a road above it, then you'll start seeing potholing. And then also you can get roots intruding and growing into the... AND THEN YOU CAN GET ROOTS INTRUDING AND GROWING INTO THE PIPE AND THEN THERE IS A SHOT HERE. THERE IS A UTILITY THAT RAN INTO YOUR PIPE AND SOMEONE DID SOME WORK AND DAMAGED IT. THE LOWER RIGHT ONE IS A PIPE THAT IS COMPLETELY COLLAPSED AND WE COULDN'T GET A CAMERA THROUGH. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. So using a rating system, again, NASCO rating system, and looking at your imminent failures and your severe defects, we came up with a cost estimate. So looking at, for example, the structural rehab, we're looking at improving about 30 to 50 structures, whether that's just simply cutting off the top and putting a new grate to be either ADA compliant for bikes bikes or for pedestrians or whether if it's replacing a brick structure that's full that's cracked and you can it's obviously leaking in additional water and causing infiltration. Regarding the corrugated metal pipe replacements we're looking at approximately about 2,000 feet more or less of pipe that we're estimating that will have to be replaced. That's in that imminent and severe defect. And so we ran up our cost estimate. Some of those pipes may be located in adjacent to the bay or out falling into the bay. Thank you. Thank you. SO WE CAME UP WITH INCIDENTAL COSTS BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES NOW I'M NOT THE MOST EXPENSIVE PERSON ON THE TEAM. OBVIOUSLY THE CONTRACTOR. BUT IF YOU HAVE TO GET RESOURCE PERMITS, TIME AND MONEY ARE INVOLVED. SO WE PUT IN SOME ESTIMATES THERE FOR MANAGEMENTS AND FOR PERMITTING AND THEN FOR YOUR CITY STAFF IN THERE AND CAME UP WITH THIS 2 MILLION, $2.3 MILLION ESTIMATE. Next slide, please. And so our recommendations are, I'll just summarize it very quickly. In the first one to two years, we recommending focusing on those portions of the storm drain system that are in the most severe cases to so severe to imminent failure. And that's that again, we can work out with city staff and how they want to do it, work that out. And also in cases that are high liability where there is, again, ADA compliance that you're not meeting and could create a problem there. And then years three, four, and five, we were recommending doing more inspections, CCTV of your pipes, particularly focusing on the remainder of the corrugated metal pipe. We have done some, a few vitrified clay pipe and RCP because the CMP pipe just turned into a different type of pipe. those pipes are in good condition. That's what we would expect. And so, and in year five, we put down resiliency. We understand there are now storm drain mitigation measures now to treat storm water and to try to get away from more of the structural treatments and just dissipating water out to the bay. So you can use bioretention areas or greening scape or draining into a landscaped area that allows some infiltration. Okay. With that, I believe I am done and open up for discussion. |
| 00:50:12.52 | Unknown | Yeah, I had some question. Oh, well, before we give it back to the council, |
| 00:50:17.11 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
| 00:50:17.23 | Unknown | Thank you. Bye. |
| 00:50:17.57 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. A QUICK COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION. YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT THAT I'VE PROVIDED SOME NUMBERS IN THE FISCAL SECTION. AND THOSE NUMBERS DON'T NECESSARILY MATCH WHAT RICH IS SHOWING HERE ON HIS SLIDES. THE REASON IS THAT I WANTED TO SHOW THAT WE WERE ANTICIPATING doing some of this work, and we put in a number in the Capital Improvement Program to cover it. It's not exactly the same. But it was just to show that we were anticipating receiving this report and moving forward as fast as we can on some of the culvert repairs. IN ADDITION, JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT RICH IS FINALIZING HIS REPORT. OUR NEXT STEPS WOULD BE TO WORK WITH HIM SPECIFICALLY AS WELL AS OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF TO the most needed repairs and put together packages as soon as we can in order to repair those based off of the CIP numbers that we have right now. And then obviously we would return to the council if we have an award that's greater than $200,000. So it would come back to you regardless. So with that, I just want to thank you. And we're here for questions and comments. |
| 00:51:24.95 | Steven Woodside | I'm gonna start off. |
| 00:51:31.33 | Steven Woodside | First of all, I wanted to understand, you know, well, let me ask you about process first. OF COURSE. Of course, some people are aware that pipe bursting is a trenchless method of replacing old or damaged underground pipes that no longer requires extensive trenching but simply an entrance and an exit point IS THAT? and approach that is feasible for repairing or replacing some of the CMP, |
| 00:52:02.68 | Rich Souza | Thank you. |
| 00:52:02.82 | Steven Woodside | on the show. |
| 00:52:02.89 | Rich Souza | I'll be right back. |
| 00:52:02.92 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:52:03.04 | Rich Souza | pipe. That is definitely one of the options that we would be looking at. Open trenching is kind of more traditional. It's more expensive. Some of those pipes are in such bad condition and failure that that's probably the only option that's available. That's one of the reasons we wanted to show this report and see just there was a couple images on there that slip lining. you can use some of those corrugated metal pipe. They're very inefficient in terms of flow. And so slip lining a smaller diameter plastic pipe through there or HTP pipe can provide the same capacity, especially on your hillsides where there's a lot of slope. |
| 00:52:43.37 | Steven Woodside | And so bearing that in mind, you advised us that 32% of our pipes are in dismal condition. And so what would be the cost estimate to repair those 32, or when will we have a cost estimate to repair that 32% of pipes that need immediate attention? |
| 00:53:07.82 | Rich Souza | And I just want to clarify, that's 32% of your corrugated metal pipes. Yes. And that represents maybe 9% of your storm drain system. So we do have just general ballpark estimates on what it would cost. I have not seen the final inspection reports. So I'm assuming I will have that by the end of this week. They'reND OF THIS WEEK. THEY ARE DONE WITH THE CAMBERING. THEY HAVE TO CONVERT IT. AND THEN PRIORITIZING IT WITH KEVIN AND HIS TEAM. AND THEN I WILL SUSPECT A COUPLE, TWO TO THREE WEEKS IS WHEN WE WOULD HAVE THIS REPORT FINALIZED. THANK YOU. |
| 00:53:11.63 | Steven Woodside | Of the corrugated metal. Bye. THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 00:53:48.12 | Steven Woodside | So our staff report reflects construction cost and incidental expenses of the severe to major defects at 2.3 million. |
| 00:54:03.61 | Rich Souza | That's correct, and that includes the structures as well. So the catch basins and the modifications there. |
| 00:54:09.55 | Steven Woodside | And so would that cover the entire 9% of the pipes, of the CMP pipes that are in bad shape? |
| 00:54:17.38 | Rich Souza | I did assume that based on what we were seeing, 50% of the pipes were either imminent or severe defect. I just I said I took that 50% multiplied it by that 9% and came up with the 2000 feet. |
| 00:54:36.80 | Steven Woodside | Okay, and then to Director McGowan, is this, so we knew that we were getting this and we knew we were gonna wanna undertake some storm drain improvement as part of our capital improvement program. Do we already have monies in this fiscal year's capital improvement program to address some storm drain replacement? |
| 00:54:57.93 | Kevin McGowan | Yes, you do, definitely. |
| 00:54:59.72 | Steven Woodside | And any idea what that quantum is? |
| 00:55:04.22 | Kevin McGowan | Yes, it's in your staff report under the fiscal section. We had authorized $450,000 for construction, and I broke it into pieces so that there's some portion for design, construction, as well as contingency and construction management. |
| 00:55:20.86 | Steven Woodside | So I'm seeing construction cost $500,000. |
| 00:55:25.45 | Kevin McGowan | No, maybe I don't have the right one. It should say construction is $350,000. Under the green section, under fiscal impact? |
| 00:55:39.63 | Kevin McGowan | Maybe I'll double check. |
| 00:55:40.15 | Steven Woodside | Okay, I see that. So on the prior page, it's saying storm drain... infrastructure rehab costs. construction. Yeah. 1.5 million. of which you're saying we have we can afford within our existing budget 350,000 construction estimated |
| 00:56:04.42 | Kevin McGowan | Yes, we set aside money in this fiscal year so that we can get going on it quickly. |
| 00:56:09.29 | Steven Woodside | And do we have staff to manage that or? I don't see Um, I see you know construction management 30,000 is that for outside construction management |
| 00:56:21.90 | Kevin McGowan | Yes, that's correct. So as far as management, we have... Thanks to your counsel and your direction. TO ADDITIONAL PROJECT MANAGERS WHO ARE HIRED to help us with that. I already have them going on this. So as soon as we get the report done, we can start moving forward with putting together a package. |
| 00:56:41.30 | Steven Woodside | And so those folks are not just helping us with streets. They're actually helping us with our capital improvement program. Yes. Okay. Wonderful. All right. Those were my preliminary questions. Council Member Blaustein. |
| 00:56:52.04 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah, I had a number of questions. Director McGowan, just given the presentation that we've just seen, and I remember speaking to Jonathan Goldman in 2017 and him saying our pipes along the waterfront are our biggest liability, and if one of them bursts, it could cost, I don't know, tens of millions of dollars to fix. What is the possibility, or could you come back to us and present? a plan for immediately making this 32% improvement in the next three to five years? Or is it possible in this next upcoming capital improvement cycle? Just because it doesn't seem like something that would be smart to wait on given the information we've just received. |
| 00:57:29.18 | Kevin McGowan | I would agree. I'm hoping that once this report is finished, we will take all that information and if we find that we need more funding to address things immediately. I'll come back to the council right away. And even so, we want to include the full report into the CIP for next fiscal year and the strategic planning that I think your counsel is looking at. in the next several months. |
| 00:57:51.42 | Melissa Blaustein | And what about the tidelands funds? To what extent would those be available for us to do something like this given, and that might be a question for our city manager, just given that it clearly impacts the waterfront? |
| 00:58:02.61 | Kevin McGowan | So it's my understanding that if these facilities are located within a special area noted for the Tide Lens funds where it can apply, that we can use that funding. And many of them are because YOU'LL NOTICE THAT The corrosion is generally called for caused from saltwater intrusion back into the system as the tides come up and go out. |
| 00:58:22.34 | Melissa Blaustein | And this might be a question for our engineer, but could you just just to kind of give an overarching, although you give very technical assessment of the different types of degrading of each of the pipes, but like to bring it back to what worst case scenario, what could happen? Like, can you just take us through what happens when one of those pipes fails? |
| 00:58:38.57 | Rich Souza | Yeah. Well, we've all seen potholes. Right. And then also you have pipes that are on hillsides. If those pipes leak, go out on the hillside, you can get massive erosion. It leads to slides. Slides are usually underlaying with drainage issues. So putting more water into the groundwater and taking surface water, putting it in the groundwater, it creates, again, potential liabilities for slides there. SO WHAT YOU' with that corrugated metal pipe obviously and if that starts to fail you'll start seeing lower capacity out of your system so you can see more bypass of water and water going to different areas where it didn't go to before so you might have it running down somebody's driveway or into somebody's house. We've seen areas where people have sandbagged the road during the winter. So there's definitely a number of issues that |
| 00:58:41.05 | Melissa Blaustein | Right. |
| 00:59:32.62 | Rich Souza | could potentially happen out there. All high liability type projects, yes, it's relatively inexpensive to, and I know you're seeing big numbers out there, but the liability created by a failure of a storm drain system is incredible. |
| 00:59:47.50 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah, and I'm wondering also director McGowan if after the fact as we start to make these improvements, what type of reporting we would have because as you know, we've had a number of issues with our city insurance and we're working to demonstrate that we are in fact taking the necessary steps to be a much more, I don't know, effective and highly insurable city. Can you just talk about what your plan is for reporting on the improvements and whether our engineering firm will come back and do a follow up assessment that we might present to the insurers? |
| 01:00:14.61 | Kevin McGowan | Well, what's kind of exciting too, and Rich may not have mentioned it, but he has developed Most of all, the line work, which is on GIS, graphic information systems, for us, so that we can incorporate that into our type of databases as well, so that we know where the pipes are being replaced, their current condition, and we can use that to our advantage to take a look at those and move forward in the future to address the systems that they are recommending being replaced. There are other alternatives in the future. We can come back and take a look at the capacities, see how they're working. Even replacing corrugated metal pipes with high density polyethylene may be a good idea because the friction factor that I know I'm getting engineering wise here, sorry about that. but increasing the amount of volume that the pipe system can carry can be very important. and it will make things better for our city. But we will need to come back with our maintenance crew to take a look to make sure that these systems are working. |
| 01:01:17.82 | Melissa Blaustein | And then the last question, I'm sorry I have so many, but just given that our oceanfront is very susceptible to sea level rise, do you think that these improvements might qualify for grant funding as it relates to mitigation for sea level rise impacts? |
| 01:01:33.88 | Kevin McGowan | Um... I would need to study that a little more. It's a little more complicated because of the way the city was built. And if we, let's say, add a levy system and then have a tide gate on the end of this, then I would say yes. But if we just add the tide gate by itself and not address the other issues, maybe not. So sorry about that. |
| 01:01:56.53 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you very much. Vice Mayor. |
| 01:02:00.48 | Steven Woodside | Yes, a couple questions about, we think of the storm drains as carrying water, and of course it carries lots of water, but it also carries just about everything else that might be on the roadway or on the hillside that manages to get in the system, including pollutants and things that when we discharge it at the edge of the bay, creates its own set of liability. Is that one of the issues that you're concerned about? Thank you. |
| 01:02:24.97 | Rich Souza | That is an issue that is of concern lately and there are funding for these bio treatment or bioretention areas to try to treat the stormwater before it goes out, but they're, um, having us to the previous question, having a typical engineered response and structured is really hard to attract federal any, any dollars these days. |
| 01:02:47.70 | Steven Woodside | I understand that. I'm glad to hear you say that you're recognizing that. And to Director McGowan, the figures that have been quoted in both your current capital plan and also the estimates that we've just heard, they don't necessarily include those kind of structures or things that would be by retain some of the hazardous waste. |
| 01:02:49.32 | Rich Souza | I'm glad. |
| 01:03:12.42 | Rich Souza | No, the estimate that we provided for was more conveying water from A to B, not the treatment of the storm water. |
| 01:03:19.64 | Steven Woodside | So that would be an additional cost in design and conceptual problem for us to try to resolve. |
| 01:03:26.15 | Kevin McGowan | It would, but we actually have a CIP project in order to deal with this, and it's been on the list for several years. One of the ideas is to address contamination of our water to the bay by putting in filtration devices, and we're trying to work with Caltrans and others to put one down towards the marine ship, and that would catch a lot of water and do a lot of filtering. In addition, by I think it's 2030, a lot of our storm drain systems need to have grates on the front of them in order to catch some of the debris or garbage that may go to the bay first. From an engineering perspective, we've always had an issue with that because it slows the flow down. But we're trying to install those at this point in time, test those mechanisms, see how they work before we actually go full on and put these type of things on every one of our catch basins. |
| 01:04:16.34 | Steven Woodside | One last question related to one of the lines in the estimate had to do with permitting. These are typically permits required from other agencies that have jurisdiction, not our own permit. |
| 01:04:28.14 | Rich Souza | That's correct. A lot of the corrugated metal pipe was within that 100 foot BCDC jurisdictional band. So they would trigger a permit even if it's a maintenance item. Okay. Or at least |
| 01:04:40.40 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. |
| 01:04:41.91 | Steven Woodside | City Clerk, I'm not able to see the other two council members. Does either one of them have their hand raised? |
| 01:04:48.72 | Walfred Solorzano | Yes, we have Councilmember, well, Hoffman. They had their hands raised. They don't have their hands raised anymore. |
| 01:04:55.42 | Steven Woodside | Oh, no, I do her hand is raised. All right. Thank you. Council member Hoffman. Thank you. |
| 01:04:59.64 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, I did. Sorry. Yes, my hand's right. Yeah, thanks. Thanks, Dr. McGowan. And thank you for the presentation. My first question is, are all of these, these are all Sausalito storm drain systems? |
| 01:05:14.68 | Rich Souza | That's correct. |
| 01:05:16.31 | Jill Hoffman | And thank you and are any of these any part of the Sauslio, now part of the Sauslio Marin City Sanitary District lines that we just transferred to that district or merged with that district. |
| 01:05:31.59 | Rich Souza | No, the sewer is completely separated from the storm drain. |
| 01:05:35.43 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thanks, just to confirm that. Thank you for that. I agree. I'm delighted that we're moving forward on this. It seems like it's always a priority, but we never seem to actually make it a priority for the council. So I'm glad... that we're moving forward on this system. I completely agree with the risk factors that we have, and we've seen it over the years. with some catastrophic events. Um, I completely support this and support the priority for our staff as well. that the Council's made this a priority. So Yeah, let's move forward on. Thank you. |
| 01:06:21.01 | Janelle Sobieski | I have a question. |
| 01:06:21.84 | Steven Woodside | Yes, go ahead, Councilmember Sobieski. |
| 01:06:22.13 | Janelle Sobieski | Thank you. Yeah. just echoing what Jill just said, you know, kudos and all. And, uh, coming on the back of the huge investment in our roads. It's great to see this next step on important infrastructure. I do have a question for you, sir, which is, You said that 30-something percent of the corrugated metal drains are in their worst shape. assessment. And those in turn represent 9% of the system, so that's roughly 3%. of our system. But with that, and I know you said corrugated was the most likely to be in bad shape of the various categories, and that's why you surveyed those more intently, but do you have any kind of rule of thumb then? to even. take a swag at, with the total AND I THINK THAT'S A expected infrastructure, investment will be needed to bring our storm drains up to an acceptable level in all the different categories, or do you have to do some kind of sampling in those other categories before you can say that? |
| 01:07:29.10 | Rich Souza | I THINK, WELL, USUALLY WE HAVE A STRUCTURED APPROACH. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS DEFINITELY A DATA-DRIVEN TYPE ASSESSMENT. SO, YES, WE DID LOOK AT ALL THE STRUCTURES, BUT THE COST OF ALL THE UNDERGROUNDING PIPE, WE WERE ONLY LOOKING AT ABOUT 5%. SO, AND AGAIN, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE TYPE OF PIPE THAT IS THE MOST SUSCEPTIBLE. SO I WOULDN'T APPLY KIND OF THE SAME RATE OF FAILURE TO THE OTHER DIFFERENT TYPES OF PIPE. IT WOULD JUST BE AN ESTIMATE. AND IT WOULD BE A ROUGH AND CRUDE ESTIMATE AT THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE AGE AND THE LOCATIONS. I MEAN, WE DO KNOW THE LOCATIONS, BUT WE JUST DON'T KNOW THE AGE AND HOW THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED. SOME OF THOSE PIPES MAY BE SHALLOW. IT MAY BE A TREE RIGHT OVER THEM. IT'S A ROUGH GUESS AT THAT POINT. |
| 01:08:18.66 | Janelle Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 01:08:23.46 | Steven Woodside | All right, if there are no further questions, I'll open it up for public comment. |
| 01:08:27.31 | Walfred Solorzano | We have Babette McDougall. |
| 01:08:29.90 | Steven Woodside | I have no speaker cards from our gallery. |
| 01:08:33.35 | Walfred Solorzano | That's correct. |
| 01:08:35.45 | Steven Woodside | Welcome, Babette. |
| 01:08:37.80 | Babette McDougall | All right, thank you. Can you hear me okay? |
| 01:08:39.45 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 01:08:40.37 | Babette McDougall | Okay, great. So I'm really glad to have a chance to speak to this issue, and I'm glad that we're talking about it. There is a storm drain on Gerard Avenue, just kind of north-northwest of Litho. And this one has been problematic because we've had, you know, neighbors who keep large industrial trucks in the neighborhood. And for some reason they like to put the tires right on the storm drain grates right on the grates themselves Which means Gerard Avenue flooded a lot in 2024 and now that we have these atmospheric river problems we're going to simply have more challenges and facing us with storm drains. So going forward, I'd like to encourage, as we create the new system, we have to make it impossible for vehicles to park their tires, especially on top of the grates. It's one thing to clear the grates, Because then at least the water can flow. But when you deliberately block the great, you flood roads. We're in a time of transition in extreme weather. We've had how many houses slide down the hill just in recent years since atmospheric rivers began and they increase intensity year over year. My road, Gerard Avenue, I turned it into a name called Lake Gerard. My car spent so much time in the shop last year because of problems being stuck in the middle of Lake Gerard. unable to clear the debris or get to the debris because of the vehicles parked on top of the storm drains. So I just want to call this out. Because going forward, if we're going to invest in new infrastructure, We have to know how to protect it. Thank you so much. I'll yield back my time. |
| 01:10:14.58 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. City clerk? |
| 01:10:17.57 | Walfred Solorzano | No further public comments? |
| 01:10:18.86 | Steven Woodside | All right, I'm going to close public comment, bring it back up here for discussion. Can someone put the recommendations back up on the screen for us? |
| 01:10:48.72 | Steven Woodside | Any chance of making that any bigger? |
| 01:10:51.81 | Unknown | I don't know. |
| 01:11:06.88 | Unknown | This is the largest I was able to make it, Mayor. If you'd like me to read out any of the recommendations, I'm happy to do so. |
| 01:11:09.66 | Steven Woodside | Okay. HAPPY TO DO SO. THE CONSULTANT DID GO OVER IT. WE HAVE A RECOMMENDED MOTION WHICH IS TO RECEIVE AND FILE AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY ENGINEER TO PROCEED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF BID DOCUMENTS. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU NEED FROM US TONIGHT, DIRECTOR MCGOWEN. I SEE A THUMBS UP ON THAT. I'LL MOVE THAT WE RECEIVE AND FILE THE REPORT FROM CSW Thank you. ST2 regarding the Sausalito storm drain assessment study and authorize the city engineer to proceed with the development of bid documents to repair Those storm drain systems listed in attachment 5. |
| 01:11:43.24 | Melissa Blaustein | SECOND. |
| 01:11:44.74 | Steven Woodside | and so I'll open it up for discussion. I'm going to look to Council Members Hoffman and Sobieski first for any feedback. |
| 01:11:52.22 | Jill Hoffman | Mayor, yeah, thank you so much. Um, I would support, I support the motion, but I also suggest that we adopt the recommendations moving forward. That would be my I would support that. |
| 01:12:07.17 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah, I would support that too. |
| 01:12:10.60 | Steven Woodside | All right, I will amend my motion to also adopt the recommendations contained, the recommendations for years one through five contained in our staff report and in this presentation. |
| 01:12:24.67 | Melissa Blaustein | Can I add one other thing? It might be direction to staff. I don't know if it's direction to staff or recommendation, but just director McGowan already shared that we, that in the next strategic planning session, he could, and I think we should just make it clear, go forward with making sure that we are prioritizing within our capital improvement plan enough to get to the 2.3 million as suggested by the consultant. So either through the strategic planning process or through capital improvement planning, I wanna make sure that that's somehow in staff direction. |
| 01:12:51.92 | Steven Woodside | Yes, so I would not include that in a motion, but I would give direction that we address this as part of our strategic planning effort coming up in January. |
| 01:12:59.48 | Steven Woodside | I THINK THAT'S GOOD. IF YOU'LL NOTICE, IT'S YEAR FIVE, I THINK, IS WHAT THIS PROJECTS. I THINK STRATEGIC PLANS HISTORICALLY HAVE BEEN SIX YEARS. |
| 01:13:04.44 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 01:13:09.73 | Steven Woodside | Okay, perfect. So will you second my amended motion? |
| 01:13:15.09 | Melissa Blaustein | Absolutely, second. |
| 01:13:15.88 | Steven Woodside | Okay, with that, thank you Councilmember Hoffman, Councilmember Sobieski. |
| 01:13:21.44 | Janelle Sobieski | I'll just reiterate, I can't see if City Manager Zappada is there or not. but he and the council prioritized in the last couple of years. finances and then infrastructure. And we really are seemingly knocking those down one at a time. And this is another uh, you know, amazing follow on to the big investment in roads at the last meeting. It's nice to see the assessment of our facilities done and now the assessment of our sewers, getting a grip over their cost and making investments in, repair and fundamental maintenance. So I also agree with Councilmember Hoffman's suggestion we had seconded my own |
| 01:14:00.81 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:14:01.55 | Janelle Sobieski | about adopting the recommendations and just applaud director McGowan and the, uh, Consulted for their thorough and data-driven presentation, and I hope we'll look forward to getting more of this and getting updates as we move along. And maybe I would underline what Council Member Glaustein said too, which is I'd actually be inclined given the... the risks that she identified that we all know that can come from failures of the system prioritize this if at all possible in terms of accelerating investment. We can get the money if we need it. Uh, We actually have a really good credit rating this deferred maintenance uh, you know, just because it takes it's going to cost money to fix. It might cost a lot more not to fix. So actually put to your consideration that we ask staff to look at what it would take to accelerate these repairs. to at least the ones that would pose a potential landslide threat contamination threat that could endanger property, life property, or create a huge legal liability. |
| 01:15:11.17 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:15:11.19 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 01:15:11.88 | Steven Woodside | Councilmember Blaustein. |
| 01:15:13.59 | Melissa Blaustein | Just to reinforce that I really appreciate that we're putting an emphasis on this. As I mentioned in 2017, this was noted to me as one of our largest liabilities, and I think it really speaks to our back to basics approach that we've been focused on for at least as long as I've been on the council of really addressing our biggest issues head on and making them a priority. So I look forward to us continuing to allocate resources towards shoring up our infrastructure, and I really appreciate the effort from our engineering firm and from Director McGowan. |
| 01:15:44.70 | Steven Woodside | Vice Mayor. Okay, I agree. My only, and I actually believe that how we carry out year one through five recommendations is prime fodder for our strategic planning session in January, which we will be hopefully developing a strategic plan for the next six years, as has been our practice in the past. I do believe that we have to weigh risks and benefits of this project against risks and benefits of our highway, our roads, which we're trying to improve the index of our roads, our facilities, which we now have a facilities report. And so something I'm very grateful for is that this year we have really conscientiously gathered the data that allow us to understand what's so and what needs to be done so that we can really effectively plan and prioritize for how best to address those issues moving forward. I also wanted to make reference to the Tidelands Fund. So I was commenting to the city manager earlier this week that every single project that comes down the pike, we say, oh, we could, we could take money from the Tidelands Fund and So there are many different... potential uses of the Tidelands funds, which we carefully compile each year. Again, part of our strategic planning process needs to include how best to utilize those funds for the best leverage in the projects that they support. But with that, thank you, Director McGowan. Thank you, Rich. Really great presentation. I feel very well served by a really technically competent consultant. So thank you so much for that. Thank you, Director McGowan, for keeping this on the priority list for this year. And so with that, I'll call the question. City Clerk, could you call the roll? |
| 01:17:54.29 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Blaustein. |
| 01:17:54.83 | Steven Woodside | Laustein. Yes. |
| 01:17:56.53 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Hoffman. |
| 01:17:58.78 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 01:17:59.62 | Walfred Solorzano | Council Member Sobieski. |
| 01:18:01.53 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 01:18:01.54 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. Vice Mayor Woodside? Yes. Mayor Cox? |
| 01:18:04.97 | Steven Woodside | Yes, that motion carries unanimously. Okay. Next on our agenda is item 5C, Authorize the city manager to execute construction contract with Hanford Applied Restoration. I Thank you. Thank you. Um, FOR Conservation for Dunphy Park Improvement Phase 2 project for base bid amount plus bid alternatives 1 and 3. in an amount not to exceed 1.2 $1,283,235.20. Authorize construction contingency of $116,764.80, approved plans and specifications for the project, and authorize additional allocations of $266,497 From the Tidelands Fund. and $49,995 from the general fund to support the project Again, I'll welcome Kevin McGowan, our Public Works Director, as well as I see Sarah on deck. |
| 01:19:14.78 | Kevin McGowan | And I think our city manager would like to say a few words also before we get started with our presentation. |
| 01:19:21.45 | Chris Zapata | THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR MCGOWAN. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE CONTEXT. SO WHEN THE CITY PUT THE PARTICIPATION CERTIFICATES ON THE BALLOT IN 2015 AND THE RESIDENTS VOTED IN FAVOR OF PARK IMPROVEMENTS AND THE CITY COUNCIL STARTED IMPLEMENTING THOSE PARK IMPROVEMENTS. THAT WAS A HUGE STEP THAT BRINGS US TO TONIGHT. ALONG WITH THE CITIZEN SUPPORT AND THE STAFF WORK AND THE COUNCIL DIRECTION, THERE WAS ALSO VOLUNTEER EXPERTISE THAT WAS DONE AND IMPLEMENTED INTO THE DUNFEE PARK PROJECT IN PARTICULAR. ONE OF THOSE PERSONS IS HERE WITH US TONIGHT, AND THAT'S MR. JOKE ULMAN. SO TONIGHT THAT'S RESULTED IN PHASE ONE, AND NOW WE'RE TALKING TO YOU ABOUT DUNFEE PARK PHASE TWO. AS A FORMER DIRECTOR OF PARKS, RECREATION AND LIBRARY, I CAN APPRECIATE THE VALUE OF PARKS TO A COMMUNITY AND THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WORK ON PARKS IS NEVER DONE. THERE IS ALWAYS MORE TO DO AND THERE ARE ALWAYS OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE. SO IN TONIGHT'S ACTION, WE ARE ASKING THAT YOU APPROVE WORK IN TERMS OF PHASE TWO, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO TELL YOU THAT WE ARE MINDFUL OF SOME REQUESTS THAT WE'VE RECENTLY HEARD. MAYOR COX HAD SPOKEN WITH STAFF ABOUT THE IDEA OF MAKING SURE THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE DUNFEE PARK EVOLUTION THAT THERE BE ATTENTION PAID TO CULTURAL AND EDUCATIONAL ASPECTS OF DUNFEE PARK. SO TONIGHT IS NOT THE NIGHT TO DISCUSS THOSE BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY, MANY PLAYERS AND PARTICIPANTS INCLUDING THE FEDERARATED TRIBE OF GREAT RONCHERIA, THE COSTAL MIWALK TRIBAL COUNCIL OF MARIN, THE ADJASENT PROPERTY OWNERS, ALL OF THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT PHASE THREE MIGHT LOOK LIKE IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE EAGER TO TAKE ON BUT TONIGHT WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT PHASE TWO. |
| 01:21:28.33 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you, Mr. City Manager. Item 5C before you this evening is Dumpy Park Improvements Phase 2, Construction Award. I'm actually very excited about this. I started here in 2019, and when I started, was kind of thrown into a project called Dunphy Park Phase One, which was quite complex, a lot more complex than you would think for a regular park project. It involves a lot of different players, everything from working on the bay to Thank you. parks issues and underground issues. So with this one, I'm super excited that we are moving this forward, and Sarah Korshidafard, our project manager, will... MAKE A PRESENTATION TO YOU THIS EVENING AND WE'LL BE HERE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. |
| 01:22:16.63 | Sarah Horchideffard | Thank you, Kevin. Welcome Sarah. Thank you. Good evening, Madam Mayor, Councilmembers, everyone in the virtual and physical room. My name is Sarah Horchideffard. |
| 01:22:19.21 | Steven Woodside | Welcome, Sarah. |
| 01:22:27.14 | Sarah Horchideffard | I'm the project manager for Dunphy Park improvement phase. TO. the front yard of our city hall and the beautiful, splendid park that we all enjoy. Next slide, please. |
| 01:22:44.54 | Sarah Horchideffard | DPW today is presenting to ask for your authorization to move forward with awarding the construction contract to Hanford Applied Restoration and Conservation. And we are asking for your approval of the plans and specification that are attached to the staff report. as well as authorizing and allocating the rest of the funding that is necessary to complete the phase two of the project. Next slide, please. |
| 01:23:15.65 | Sarah Horchideffard | Just as a recap, back in July, You approved that the staff would move forward with bidding And the construction of phase two, at the time, we had the engineering estimate of about 900,000 for the base bid for the project. Next slide, please. This slide hopes to provide a more close up of the context, the physical context of where the phase two is located. Um, It is dashed in white. You can see phase two. It includes the shoreline, the dog-legged shaped shoreline, as well as the southernmost area that is currently fenced. And you can see the adjacent Dunphy Park existing phase one, which was completed prior to 2021, just as a reference. Next slide, please. Just for clarity, I'm going to chunk this presentation in three parts. I'm going to do a little bit recap and remembering the background and history of Dunphy Park, moving to some of the physical and spatial elements of the construction for phase two and finishing with the process that we employed, the concept that we engaged in the bidding and also the results and recommendations by the staff. Next slide, please. So let's start on the history of the park. Next slide, please. Dunphy Park has had a complex and interesting journey. It was once open water and then it turned into a landfill and now it is a beautiful park that the citizens and visitors enjoy. Next slide please. Going clockwise, these aerial photos show the land's transformation from the 1940s, and incremental feel between the 50s and the 70s really expanded the park base, and the closure of the landfill in the 1970s became the milestone for where the park is today. Next slide, please. After the landfill was closed in the 1970s, the city was able to acquire more parcels through the State Coastal Conservancy Grant, which is specifying and restricting the use as open space and public access. Friends of the Dunphy Park then volunteered to produce a conceptual master plan. Landscape architect Paul Leffingwell and local architect, who is in the room, Mr. Jacques Ullman, prepared the conceptual plan for which the Friends of the Dunphy Parks Board of Directors organized a community engagement extensive public forum which was well attended and professionally put in place. They collected comments from the citizens, they distributed a questionnaire And the architect and the landscape architect, they compiled and they used that information as data for their design. I'm going to- |
| 01:26:28.28 | Steven Woodside | I'm going to pause you there, Sarah. I don't see this presentation online. It's not in our packet. City Clerk, can you please add this presentation to the agenda packet that's online? you and The reason is this is such valuable history that I really do want to memorialize this work effort. |
| 01:26:50.69 | Sarah Horchideffard | Sounds good. Thank you. Next slide, please. The overall schematic site plan shows the park's original vision, highlighting the four distinct elements of A through D. with the main concept being the balancing and connecting of the active and passive portions of the park. With the information collected from the carefully recorded public forum and public commons, Leffingville and Omen decided that the park should have seamlessly connected the active, multi-use, and passive areas with the parking and the toilet amenities in the active section. The passive area would be south of Leto Street. The majority of the responses favored a better visual connection between the park and the neighborhood with no hedges or fences and the replacement of trees with more suitable species. Next, please. In 2017, the city hired RHAA landscape architects who developed construction-level bid-ready documents. At the time, used for bidding, the bids came out quite high, about $5 million. So the staff had to change course and restructure the project into phases, Phase 1 and Phase 2, which we now have. and they had to rebuild in 2018. Construction of phase one was completed before 2021 incrementally and included soil remediation, accessibility upgrades, bocce and volleyball courts, and other primarily active recreational amenities. As a bonus, in 2022, a pilot Oyster Reef project was launched by external and academic entities at no cost to the city. Next slide, please. The 2022 oyster brief installation, which you can see the markers on the picture to your left. the white markers. has a recently added educational sign. Again, you can see that in the picture. The reef was installed by external academic partners led by SFSU's Estuary and Ocean Science Center at no cost to the city. It is part of the Living Shoreline Experimentation Initiative to reduce wave energy, mitigate sea level rise, and enhance coastal restoration. This provides a very useful precedent for the city. to explore and potentially expand upon to protect the park from sea level rise impact in the future, understanding that this is not going to interfere with the land side edge improvements that we are arguing for today. Next slide, please. Dunphy Park Improvement Phase 2 of the project resumed in Winter 2024 when I was hired at the city. DPW re-engaged RHAA and requested refinements to their earlier design based on emerging regulatory inputs regarding the environmental sensitivities that are embedded in this site. The design drawing set was revised through ongoing interactions and evolving inputs from a number of entities that are listed on the next slide. Next slide, please. Since the phase two's resumption, staff has re-engaged LEA, County Recycle, and our three key consultants for the project, RHAA Landscape Architecture and Planning, Geologic Associates, Environmental Engineering, Far Western Archaeological and Anthropological Consultant, along with the tribal representatives as part of the project. And in addition, of course, consultant along with the tribal representatives as part of the project and we have and in addition of course mr. Jacques Omen the original co-creator of the park And the main intent of those engagements have been to address environmental and soil health issues. the known, other known environmental sensitivities in the site and also updating the plans and cost estimates. In February this year, the city received a joint letter of approval from LEA and CalRecycle, green lighting the city that we can move forward with the phase two construction. And in July, we received the permit to operate that is valid between July 1st and June 30th of next year for the completion of phase two by LEA and under the description of solid waste facility. which will address their concerns and questions about the soil matters if we move forward with phase two. Next slide, please. This site used to be a landfill. During phase one, high quantities of soil were removed but some landfill materials are still present in the site. LEA and CalRecycle have been closely involved throughout the Phase 2 design review and revisions and they have noted that there's a small shoreline section that could still have unremediated soil as is highlighted on the screen with yellow. That means we may encounter debris like glass and burn ash or even some limited lead contamination. For this reason, bid documents included and required the bidding contractors to use a gas monitor for all excavation throughout the project. If any waste is found during construction, the contractor and the city are required to notify LEA and detail the conditions and include all the photos and then follow up with a corrective action. that is outlined in the CDB documents as part of its contract. The bid schedule that contractors use for estimating included the item removal of potentially contaminated soil at an estimated quantity of 1,750 square feet, which is related to the yellow marking on the screen. Considering potential removal depth of two feet, contractor will be responsible for fully and compliantly remove and transport approximately 130 cubic yards of contaminated soil to a certified site. The city has already built this quantity into its contract and any hazardous soil should be taken offsite and disposed at a properly certified location. Next slide, please. Now we are moving to the next chunk of the presentation, which will go over some of the spatial and physical elements of the phase two construction. Next slide, please. for our collective reference. It's a quick visual reminder of what areas we are talking about. Next slide, please. Phase two construction elements involve the more contemplative and passive portion of the park concept as was intended and designed for a slower, quieter experience. Key elements are rectangled in red, including the northern shoreline that is in the shape of a dogleg, and the southernmost section that is currently fenced. Some of the key components are living shoreline, planting and grading. The planting will include native and culturally sensitive species for erosion control and habitat restoration. Pedestrian paths. Shoreline habitat protection fencing. Seating, which will include benches, picnic tables, and designated space for potential future pavilion structures if approved and needed into the future. along with irrigation and extensive landscaping for the project. Next slide, please. Notable to say the shoreline landscape design that was revised since 2024 had to be intentionally conceived to vary across four different sections, A through D, and there is a reason for that. There's different graving conditions, soil compositions, and soil health and erosion conditions on the shoreline that needs to be addressed variantly. Next slide, please. As Chris spoke about it earlier, There is a potential phase three that could be added later to involve more cultural and educational elements for the park, and staff have already began conversations with the interested groups. There has been only preliminary discussions on the topic and around exploring and expanding those amenities which can include elements that can honor and celebrate the Coast Miwok heritage of the Marin County. However, that is beyond and outside the scope of the phase two construction. And if that needs to happen, we will be coming back to the City Council, and there needs to be more reviews on the project. However, with the way the plans are revised, we do have dedicated spaces on the park that are left empty that could be appropriate later for such cultural and educational amenities. Next slide, please. Moving to the last portion of the presentation tonight, running through the bidding process and the city's concept for the bidding and the results along with recommendations. Next slide, please. So we have advertised construction bids in August and we received six bids in September, the same day we advertised for CEM and inspection. We received yesterday proposals, which we have not had the chance to review yet. And if we need to select, which we will, we will come back to the city council and have conversations on those separately. Next slide, please. On the screen, you can see how the big documents organize the base bid and the alternates. I'll take a moment to read from the slides if they're legible. Basically, the base bid includes lots of site preparation, furnishing, and irrigation systems, some of the foundations. We separated large trees, small plants, and living shoreline planting as separate bits to have the option and have more alternative opportunities to choose from. they're summarized in this table. Next slide, please. Here on the screen you can see the numbers associated with the six different bits organized from the lowest to the highest on the bottom and obviously the lowest is close enough to the estimate that we had for the project. Next slide, please. Staff reviewed the bids received and find the low bid from Hanford Applied Restoration and Conservation both responsive and responsible. This contractor notes that they will be performing the work without any subcontractors. In addition, the staff would like to highlight that the qualification of this particular contractor stands out with some research compared to the other bidders in terms of their relevant expertise in ecological restoration. Staff recommend to award the contract to hand forward applied restoration and conservation and including bid alternate one, which was the large tree landscaping and bid BID Alternate 3, which is the sensitive living shoreline restoration, mainly because they seem to have expertise in that area as well. The decision to exclude BID Alternate 2, which is the smaller shrubbery, smaller plants and ground coverage, was because wanted to have a cost-saving measure and we also wanted to leverage in-house expertise to perform that kind of work, which we believe our maintenance staff, park and maintenance staff, would be able to do in-house. Next slide, please. With this recommended award and other expenses, such as the construction management and inspection, the project remains within the budget outlined in the staff report. Next slide, please. The council chooses not to approve the staff's recommendation They may instead choose a different combination of bit alternates or instruct the staff to reject all bids and re-bid the project, which will delay the construction of phase two and could result in higher projects costs due to inflation in the future. Next slide please. Now, ending on a positive note and picture, this photo Credit to Jacques. It was taken from his house and showing really the spirit and the beauty of Dunphy Park. Coincidentally, I received this picture in my email the same day or close to the time that I received the green light from LEA and Calvary Cycle, which we have been waiting for. So Dunphy Park is a cherished park, indeed, and phase two will complete its extraordinary journey from open water to landfill and now to a vibrant community space. Next slide, please. This concludes our DPW presentation tonight. And Kevin and I and Jacques, we are available here to answer any questions. Thank you. |
| 01:41:33.56 | Steven Woodside | I had one question. How close in quantum were the six bids? Could you go back to the six-piece |
| 01:41:43.03 | Sarah Horchideffard | Yes. |
| 01:41:49.46 | Sarah Horchideffard | Yeah, I just can't see it from here. |
| 01:41:49.83 | Steven Woodside | Yeah, I just can't see it from here. |
| 01:41:51.38 | Sarah Horchideffard | The first one is 843-150. |
| 01:41:55.21 | Steven Woodside | $500,000 difference, essentially. |
| 01:41:57.47 | Sarah Horchideffard | Yeah. |
| 01:41:57.93 | Steven Woodside | And have we reached out to Hanford, now that every bidder is aware of what the other bidders bid, to confirm that they are standing by their bid, even though it was significantly $150,000 lower than the next lowest bid and $500,000 lower than the highest bid? |
| 01:42:16.73 | Sarah Horchideffard | We have not, but they have, we have the leverage of choosing the alternates, which |
| 01:42:17.86 | Steven Woodside | but they have to. |
| 01:42:22.23 | Steven Woodside | Yeah, but that is something that I always recommend when there's a significant disparity in bid pricing. to ensure that the low bidder did not have an arithmetic or other mistake in their bid. |
| 01:42:36.13 | Sarah Horchideffard | Yeah, that's a great point. However, a good test is comparison to our estimate, the engineering estimate, which is pretty close. |
| 01:42:44.05 | Steven Woodside | What was the engineering answer? |
| 01:42:45.06 | Sarah Horchideffard | 900,000. |
| 01:42:45.18 | Steven Woodside | No. TODAY. |
| 01:42:46.66 | Sarah Horchideffard | . Yeah. |
| 01:42:48.72 | Steven Woodside | Okay, that was my question. Oh, I see Councilmember Hoffman has her hand raised. And then we'll hear from Council members sobieski. |
| 01:43:03.27 | Jill Hoffman | Oh, thank you, Mayor. Sarah, could you please bring up the schematic of the park, the phase two of the entire park? |
| 01:43:10.24 | Sarah Horchideffard | Yes. Yeah, could you go back to the, I think maybe the first, I'm not sure which one, but maybe the first page should show it better. |
| 01:43:23.82 | Jill Hoffman | just so you can see the whole proposed areas |
| 01:43:26.30 | Sarah Horchideffard | Just the cover, the cover of the presentation, just the beginning should do it. Yeah, this one. |
| 01:43:33.74 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, that's fine. Okay. So I note that phase one of the park Um, you know, was we did almost the whole entire left hand side of the of the picture there. So that was all the you know, all of that work in front of the cruising club and along the shoreline all the way down to where the water goes inland, right? So all that cut in there. That's all the phase one. Um, it, You know, you would agree with that, right? |
| 01:44:07.90 | Sarah Horchideffard | PARTIALLY THE PHASE ONE SOIL INCLUDED SOIL REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT. HOWEVER, IT DID NOT INCLUDE ANY SHORE LINE RESTORATION OR PLANTING OR GRADING. basically half done, you know, and the shoreline soil unfortunately is eroded and washed away. So no, it was not completed at the time. |
| 01:44:34.98 | Jill Hoffman | So there's a path though along there, right? And all of that park area in front of the cruising club was done. And so as we go through your slides, I'm sorry, we didn't have, I didn't see the slides beforehand, but as we go through your slides, There's a contamination area that I see in front of the cruising club that apparently we're going to remove contaminated soil from in front of the cruising club. that we're now, which I agree with, we should But that was also part of a work area from phase one. And I'm wondering why. the construction crew that we company that we Paid. to do the construction for phase one, It didn't complete that removal. as part of that contract. It seems like we're redoing work that should have been done with phase one. and Uh, You know, I'm kind of perplexed. as to why shoreline erosion, of course, is always going to happen on a shoreline park. Um, but, you know, it's a pretty big project. And I'm just I'm just wondering, you know, if we paid a lot of money for I think it was all in. I think we're close to 5 million on phase one. And then we had a substantial cost with removal of quite a large debris pile. of contaminated soil for phase one. that was the large pile that's now where Most of phase two is. on the right hand side of your screen. And so I don't know if you can give us a short explanation of you know, what's occurring now with more removal and contaminated soil that should have been covered by a prior construction construction company. And if we've, contacted that company for contribution or, an explanation of that. Thank you. |
| 01:46:38.71 | Steven Woodside | So Director McGowan has approached the podium. You can't. Thank you. |
| 01:46:41.75 | Jill Hoffman | I can't believe it. |
| 01:46:41.97 | Steven Woodside | that he's here to address that question. |
| 01:46:43.65 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, great. Yeah, let's have, I welcome that, yeah. |
| 01:46:46.73 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you, Councilmember Huffman. That was some good questions. And I'll just start preliminarily the The most of the stuff on the shoreline that you see in darker green has to do with planting. It's shoreline planting that a lot of it wasn't included in the first phase of the work. You're correct that the pathways and the entrance to the beach area, that was all included with some seating areas. That's definitely correct. Now, in between when we finished phase one and when we're starting phase two, We have... A GOVERNMENT AGENCY AT THE COUNTY THAT'S COMING BACK IN SAYING THEY HAVE CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SPECIFIC BEACH AREA. AND THEY WERE SEEING MORE AND MORE GLASS SHOWING UP IN THAT AREA WHICH THEY FELT WAS A PROBLEM. So it wasn't necessarily lead or other things that you may see from a site like this or that we've encountered in the past. But from the county's perspective, Health and Human Services They were coming forward saying, you need to remove that piece. Now, our other consultant, Geologic, has weighed in and they don't think that there is a hazard with the soils itself, But... based off of our interaction with the county, we've included that section to remove a portion kind of the beach area where they are seeing more and more glass and other things come up that could be indicative of a older dump site type of thing. |
| 01:48:17.51 | Jill Hoffman | Would any of that, have we looked at the old contracts for phase one to see if any of that was covered by the former you know, construction, because all of that was, I mean, it was, they were, they were, we hired them to redo the beach area. I mean. it was fully disclosed that that was a, the former uses for the site. I mean, that was one of the big concerns how we were going to redo this park and the cost estimates and, what this area was formerly used for. you know, and then there were some big surprises that there wasn't proper testing. Um, You know? you know, when we were moving soil around. |
| 01:48:53.93 | Kevin McGowan | GOOD COMMENTS AS WELL. |
| 01:48:53.96 | Jill Hoffman | Good comments as well. |
| 01:48:55.84 | Kevin McGowan | Sorry, good comments as well. Remember, we had kind of a troublesome contractor for the first phase, and we had to have another contractor come in in order to remove the soils. that were underneath the parking lot area. So those are good comments. I will go back and take a look at the original contract and see what it says. |
| 01:49:13.39 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, thanks so much. I appreciate that. Um, With regard to, I know, with regard to this section on the right, I know that we've been in contact with with the Native American groups almost from the beginning. And I'm glad to see that that's on our list. I understand that's not what we're on our list or on our agenda tonight to talk about, but Thank you. the cultural assets that are there but I know you know, we have been in contact and are definitely going to follow their lead on how they'd like to have those addressed and recognized. So I'm happy to I'm happy that we're addressing that, but I know that we, from the very beginning, we've been in contact with those groups. and are sensitive to how they want those cultural assets recognized and addressed in this effort. So thank you for that. I don't have any further questions right now. |
| 01:50:17.98 | Kevin McGowan | And yes, that is correct. We have to kind of step back and look at all of the Bay Area in question. Anything that in my career working at different agencies, when we get close to the water itself, we involve those different groups to make sure that we are on the right track. |
| 01:50:33.26 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:50:34.81 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:50:34.86 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:50:35.23 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:50:35.90 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:50:35.97 | Steven Woodside | Great, Councilmember Sobieski. |
| 01:50:38.49 | Janelle Sobieski | Thank you, Mayor. Sarah or Director McGowan, I have two questions. One is about this lead potential. from the soils, we had a lead issue in phase one. And I recall a big pile of dirt in the bottom right-hand corner of this drawing. that was there for, some period of time. which we then... had to pay to move to another location. uh, And I'm wondering if we have the R&D a bit of that is that this area is also subject to seed level rise. And, the, Southeast corner is lower than the Northeast corner this drive. that, In fact, it would be nice if the soil wasn't contaminated to actually have some additional elevation of soil both for sea level mitigation and also just for People were enjoying the park to be able to see the water. So, my question is, would there be any consideration to, if there is a need for, moving soil, whether rather than shipping it to Utah, we can cap it. with some kind of appropriately, environmental cap that might save us money and also attend to other goals. |
| 01:51:58.58 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you, Councilmember Sobieski. We would rely on our consultants to guide us with that matter. We have a consultant, Geologic, that has been on board with Dunphy Park from the beginning. And we would rely on them since they know Most of the regulations in California and other areas of what we can and can't do. So we'd have to rely on their expertise. |
| 01:52:20.50 | Janelle Sobieski | Okay. Well, could I ask you just to, if that does come to pass and just to report back to us about that consideration. |
| 01:52:28.75 | Kevin McGowan | Absolutely. |
| 01:52:30.00 | Janelle Sobieski | And then, one of those slides, I think it was It had A, B, C, and D on it. I think you know what I'm talking about. It was early in your presentation. I see this one. but it had like four squares. |
| 01:52:46.65 | Sarah Horchideffard | Yeah, maybe if you could move forward, Walfred, I can stop you. |
| 01:52:46.67 | Janelle Sobieski | And |
| 01:52:57.64 | Janelle Sobieski | actually |
| 01:52:58.18 | Sarah Horchideffard | This one? |
| 01:52:59.34 | Janelle Sobieski | Yeah. I'm a proud member of the cruising club and I can't help but notice in this diagram that the cruising club's been rotated 90 degrees and moved out along the the, uh, Cascadely Marine up here. And I saw that same thing in a couple other slides. And so it's on as many sides as oriented as it is currently now. And then in several other sides, it's oriented like this. So can you tell me what that's about? |
| 01:53:25.80 | Sarah Horchideffard | This is the original master plan from 2015, so I can't speak to why that is rotated. However, I want to chime in on your previous question about sea level rise. I specifically looked at the draft of our climate adaptation that is put together by WRT, and interestingly, in Dunphy, they are suggesting offshore protection for sea level rise, much like the pilot oyster reef that we do have. Because I was curious to know if we put all the shoreline in place, what will happen in the future. it seems like we have the opportunity to protect the shoreline inside the water and mitigate and attenuate the waves that way. |
| 01:54:17.47 | Janelle Sobieski | Right. Well, thank you for that. That's actually quite helpful. But can I just if you I know, obviously, you've been with us and we're very lucky to have you for one or two years. But uh, Jacques Olden or Director McGowan can speak to this schematic arrangement of the cruising club relative to Cass Gidley Marina. |
| 01:54:36.76 | Jill Hoffman | I have some insight. |
| 01:54:37.30 | Janelle Sobieski | Exactly. |
| 01:54:37.61 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:54:38.03 | Jill Hoffman | No one else does. |
| 01:54:38.10 | Janelle Sobieski | Okay. |
| 01:54:38.47 | Steven Woodside | All right. |
| 01:54:40.52 | Jill Hoffman | Yes, Councilmember Hoffman, please. I was on the council at the time. Maybe if Jock was away, that's fine too. Jacques is here, but- You're talking about just the |
| 01:54:49.62 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 01:54:49.64 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 01:54:49.98 | Unknown | Just on the... |
| 01:54:51.90 | Jill Hoffman | the also proud member of the cruising club. myself. Is Jacques going up? I can't see. Is he going up to the podium? No, I'll go to the podium. Director McGowan is at the podium. |
| 01:54:59.81 | Heather | Bye. |
| 01:54:59.98 | Lorna Newland | Oh, yeah. |
| 01:55:00.20 | Kevin McGowan | Bye. |
| 01:55:00.23 | Lorna Newland | for you, eh? |
| 01:55:02.53 | Jill Hoffman | Very good, I'll let Kevin weigh in if he wants to. |
| 01:55:04.77 | Kevin McGowan | I'M AT THE PODIUM AT THIS POINT. COUNCILMORE SOBIESKI, COULD YOU REPRASE THE QUESTION A |
| 01:55:10.02 | Janelle Sobieski | And several that were presented by In this presentation, the Cruising Club is oriented as I know it parallel to the shoreline and you know, going to roughly where the gazebo is in this diagram and several others in the presentation, the cruising club is rotated 90 degrees. and kind of moved a little further offshore. Um, And I'm wondering, is that part of the master plan? What's that? Just what's that about? |
| 01:55:37.63 | Kevin McGowan | I do not know, would it be inappropriate to have Mr. Ullman come to the podium? Yes, he is part of the |
| 01:55:41.26 | Steven Woodside | Yes, he is part of the members of Friends of Dunphy Park, so And this is a 2015 plan by friends of Dunphy Park, so he may well have some insight. Welcome, Jacques. Thank you for being here. |
| 01:55:52.72 | Maike Stefanie | Oh, yeah. |
| 01:55:53.71 | Jacques Ullman | I definitely have insight on this. Early on, obviously, we were trying to open the shoreline and the view to the water as much as we could. And we looked into moving the cruising club. But as we got into it more, we realized that it would be very expensive, probably almost impossible to do. The cruising club, like so many things that we encountered in the design of this, each element, whether it was the Galilee, the cruising club, the Bocce people, the dog people, the poets, whatever, each one had a particular need. And the cruising club, I've got to say, was a hard one to deal with for me because visually I think it blocks a lot of view. I think they've got a hell of a good deal where they are now. They're really benefiting from this. And I sometimes wonder if they haven't encroached a little bit by their float and the more boats and so on. Sort of feel like maybe sometimes they could be waning a little bit and the noise in the neighborhood sometimes can be rather extreme so it'd be nice if they would just voluntarily realize that they're part of their community and maybe move themselves in a little bit. |
| 01:57:25.82 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Councilmember Sobieski, other questions? |
| 01:57:29.34 | Janelle Sobieski | No, thank you very much. |
| 01:57:30.51 | Steven Woodside | All right, thank you. You can go ahead. |
| 01:57:34.69 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:57:34.74 | Janelle Sobieski | But if you have any comments on that, I did let it open, of course. |
| 01:57:39.30 | Jill Hoffman | No, sure. The summary was, it was just, it was an option proposed by the Friends of Dunphy Park, and as it evolved, as Jock summarized, some of the different proposals by the Friends of Dunphy Park, some happened, some didn't, and one of the cruising club, you know, the cruising club ultimately stayed where it was. That was it. |
| 01:57:39.81 | Babette McDougall | I'm not. |
| 01:57:40.19 | Unknown | That's the summary was. |
| 01:57:40.80 | Melissa Blaustein | It's, it's, it's, it's, |
| 01:58:01.76 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:58:01.78 | Jill Hoffman | Thanks. |
| 01:58:02.16 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:58:02.87 | Jill Hoffman | Vice mayor. |
| 01:58:03.35 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:58:03.38 | Steven Woodside | Yeah, just quickly while that slide is up, I notice that the friends had also envisioned being able to develop park all the way out to the point. So above the letter D on that slide, and that's privately owned. Is that correct? |
| 01:58:19.65 | Sarah Horchideffard | Partly. |
| 01:58:22.16 | Steven Woodside | Publicly owned? |
| 01:58:24.73 | Sarah Horchideffard | There's a portion that is owned by the city, but not the entire section. |
| 01:58:28.98 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 01:58:30.13 | Kevin McGowan | So the area above the D is not owned by the city at this point in time. Some of the right of way that you see on that sketch might be a little hard to see. That is still part of the city. So remember, some of these are underwater roadways, right of way. |
| 01:58:47.26 | Steven Woodside | Right, and the point I'm referring to appears to be between two lots, that's a street right of way. |
| 01:58:54.31 | Unknown | Yes. Underwater street. I understand. |
| 01:58:55.22 | Steven Woodside | I understand. That's my question. You've answered it. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:59:01.63 | Steven Woodside | Bye. |
| 01:59:01.65 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:59:01.67 | Steven Woodside | THE END OF |
| 01:59:01.72 | Steven Woodside | Thanks. |
| 01:59:01.95 | Steven Woodside | Councilmember Blau. |
| 01:59:02.98 | Melissa Blaustein | I have a not very fun question, but I I I did want to bring up or just kind of get a deeper dive into I appreciated that there is a commitment to phase three having elements of cultural recognition, but it is something that was mentioned from pretty much day one of the design of the park. Is there, some rationale beyond just fiscal measures for why it wasn't considered for part of phase two. And might there be at least a commitment to beginning those conversations? Now I know I had conversations with representatives from from one of the tribes who were interested in having a public art there. I just would like to get an understanding of how we left it out. |
| 01:59:42.72 | Kevin McGowan | So it depends upon what you're considering as improvements related to cultural resources. We do, like Sarah had mentioned, we do work specifically with cultural resources and archaeological resources on this specifically. And we're simply going off of the original... concept developed in 2015. I THINK OUR CITY MANAGER HAS MENTIONED THAT Parks are ever evolving and will probably move in that direction in the future to include something like that. |
| 02:00:18.77 | Melissa Blaustein | If we received a proposal for public art that might go in there as part of this phasing or that would be with respect to honoring, for example, the coastal Milwaukee Indians who hope who had presented a proposal like that is that something that could be considered in the scope of the work or at least maybe a discussion around how we might do that going forward in advance of phase three. |
| 02:00:39.03 | Kevin McGowan | Yes, we could bring that forward. And if there are sufficient funds and we get it all approved beforehand from all the other agencies involved, we can include it. |
| 02:00:48.89 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay, thank you. |
| 02:00:52.74 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:00:53.02 | Jill Hoffman | Member Hoffman. |
| 02:00:57.44 | Jill Hoffman | Sorry. Yes, I think with regard to cultural recognition of Thank you. of the native the Native Americans And the early feedback that we received was was that for their cultural sites. They wanted the privacy respected for some of those sites. And so I think maybe Councilmember Blaustein, maybe perhaps is meeting with a different group that's giving her different feedback. So, Um, Perhaps we should have a closed session meeting with an update on the different the legal the legal implications of the different different messages that we're receiving and the path forward on those. And not to say that we wouldn't. represent and respect those and somehow incorporate those in our park system. and incorporate those in Sausalito. The question might be where. we would do that and how we would do that. So let me... So just to set expectations. |
| 02:02:10.33 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thanks, and we have people in the gallery this evening that I think are going to speak to that as well. So we'll hear some public comment on that as well. Okay, any other questions? Seeing none, I'm going to open it up to, Sarah, did you want to say something? Okay, I'm going to open it up to public comment. Thank you. I have some speaker cards. The first one was in bright and early. Jacques Ullman, welcome back to the podium. |
| 02:02:40.96 | Jacques Ullman | Obviously, I'm delighted that we've gotten to this point and we're going to finally get this thing done that's been going on for years and years and years. I want to particularly thank Sarah for her efforts in this. RHAA was asked by her, I believe, to be in contact with me. And so I had a dialogue with them. And as a result, their plans are very much in keeping with the conceptual design that we did. So I want to thank them for that. And of course, our city manager and our public works director were always backing us up and so this was a team effort to get where we are I do encourage you to let this move forward with this bid. It was extremely difficult to get through all the various government agencies and be able to get to where we are now. And I think if we start to fiddle around with this too much then we will only encourage these agencies to get back into the game, and it will only delay us, and then we won't be able to start construction before the winter rains come. So then things will be delayed, and then there will be reasons for extras, et cetera. So I think we really would be to our advantage if we just go ahead with this now. And also, I think that it is very important that the alternates one and three, because this is work that if it's not done by professionals, again, you could get these government agencies coming back to us and making trouble for us. facilitate that. |
| 02:04:53.54 | Steven Woodside | Thank you so much, and thank you so much for all of your volunteer time, energy, investment, for over 10 years in this project. It's so great that we are reaching phase two of this important work. |
| 02:05:07.73 | Chris Zapata | Mayor, can you indulge me please? Mr. Oldman, can you tell us the gentleman that assisted you whose family is still here, I believe his name was Paul, so that we can enter that into the record. |
| 02:05:11.24 | Steven Woodside | Of course. |
| 02:05:24.37 | Jacques Ullman | Yes, Friends of Dunphy Park included quite a few people, and Ursula and Paul Woffingwell were among them. And then when Friends of Dunphy Park decided to put forth a conceptual design, Paul Woffingwell, my landscape architect, and myself volunteered to do the project. |
| 02:05:24.66 | Chris Zapata | Yes. |
| 02:05:33.35 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:05:33.64 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 02:05:46.73 | Jacques Ullman | PROJECT. It was kind of a special thing because Paul was my landscape consultant for many of my major projects. So we really knew how to work together. There was hardly ever any friction between us. And that was a very wonderful experience. |
| 02:06:09.92 | Steven Woodside | Thank you so much. Next speaker, Carter, is Muriel Ullman. So welcome. |
| 02:06:20.30 | Muriel Ullman | I'm Jacques Ullman's wife. And I know how hard he worked for all these years, all those meetings. And it's such a beautiful thing. Dunphy Park, phase one. It's such a great place. And before it was the way it is now, it was not so great. I trust Jacques and Paul's vision. And I think if we get phase two going, Nobody will be sorry. It will be so beautiful. That's it. Thank you so much. |
| 02:06:54.98 | Carolyn Revell | Helen Revell, welcome back. I didn't prepare remarks, but I want to urge you to go ahead with the contract tonight without further delay. And I think this park project is a wonderful example partnership between staff professionals such as Sarah. course, she deferred in this last phase. And, Paul and Jacques. And it's just an example that we'd love to see used in other projects combining the design professionals and volunteers. And finally, Sausalito Beautiful, I think, would be very interested in helping, if needed, with the planting of the small plants. That's something we might be able to do with our adoptive park. And then finally, I think we'd be very interested in learning more about a recognition of the cultural and educational aspects for phase three or whenever that could happen. Thank you so much. Thank you. |
| 02:07:37.01 | Lizanne Goring | And then, |
| 02:07:48.13 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:07:48.25 | Steven Woodside | So may I ask Director McGowan that you just interface with Sausalito Beautiful on some of these features that Carolyn raised. And Sybil Boutelier, welcome. So some of the early meetings that you heard Sarah reference involved Sybil and Jacques as they start to consider phase three cultural recognition that we could undertake. |
| 02:08:13.68 | Sybil Boutelier | I just wanted to say how excited I am about seeing the beautiful Dunphy Park moving forward with the last phases. especially I'm just thrilled with some of the concepts and discussion that's been going on to just start thinking about what the next phase will be for cultural and educational use, especially focusing on the first peoples of this land. And I'm very pleased that the city is really looking at how this can best serve everybody and be not only that but an attraction here and add so much to the park and to our city. And thank you very much. Thank you so much. |
| 02:09:08.03 | Steven Woodside | City Clerk, anyone online? |
| 02:09:10.77 | Walfred Solorzano | Yes, we have a bit of Google. |
| 02:09:12.81 | Steven Woodside | Welcome back, Babette. |
| 02:09:17.77 | Babette McDougall | Thank you. So I have more than two minutes worth of stuff to say about this one, that's for sure. |
| 02:09:18.73 | Steven Woodside | All right. |
| 02:09:18.97 | Muriel Ullman | I've got more. |
| 02:09:19.75 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:09:23.26 | Babette McDougall | because I'm part of Friends of Dunphy Park, too, as well. And I was there the night we elected Jacques chairman. So... But then I went back to my NGO world and wasn't in town much. So the funding thing really raises a flag with me at two levels. The first level is How does the new plan for going forward with preserving the value of Dunphy Park, as we clearly wish to do. How does it comport with the sustainability efforts? And how, when you look at these three plans from workshop number three, which, you know, the sea wall up and down the town and everything to the east of it just goes underwater. That means everything you're investing in now soon disappears. Give it 20, 30 years, and we get to watch it just fade away. So I really want to see some reinforcements. Now, in terms of the sustainability, otherwise I just have to question the investment at this point. It doesn't make sense to spend this kind of money now knowing that it's not going to last very long into the future. That's really important. And secondly, I think it's important to remember, I don't know if you guys have checked all the places where the money got parked, like Trust for Public Land. Did anybody circle back to them? I don't know. A lot of money was raised and put into foundations that was earmarked for Sausalito Dunphy Park. So we should probably chat about that some more and I'll check with Jock again. And then finally, I just want to say, that we have to really think seriously about why this town matters and why that park matters. And whether it's shards of glass, I always thought that glass was coming from people throwing their beer bottles off of the boats, frankly, And I think that's something we need to look at. But oyster reefs are not a mitigation necessarily in the Gulf states region. We see some better success, but we're trying to bring back a dying industry in that regard. Oysters are too poisoned to eat nowadays. Well, there's more to say than I have time. But there's a lot to say here. Thank you. |
| 02:11:19.96 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. City Clerk. |
| 02:11:22.24 | Walfred Solorzano | Next speaker is Senator Bushmaker. |
| 02:11:24.72 | Steven Woodside | Welcome. |
| 02:11:25.03 | Sandra Bushmaker | I'm Sandra. |
| 02:11:26.29 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:11:26.31 | Sandra Bushmaker | Thank you. Good evening, everybody. A couple of things I wanted to say. First, I'm pleased to see the plans for this phase two because we can do better than what we have there now. And I think that would be a great improvement. I'm also very happy to see consciousness about contamination along the waterfront and addressing it up front. rather than... the surprise that we had in phase one that ended up with that huge pile of toxic dirt. which is where phase two is going to go, So I'm pleased to see that consciousness is now forefront. Uh, the last, item I wanted to discuss on this matter is Money. And the pocketbook. When measure F passed, it was $7 million for all of our parks. At last count, I saw a slide presented, I can't remember exactly where, but I think it was the Finance Committee where we have spent over $16 million when we only had 7 million coming up. So I'm particularly concerned about overages on this phase two And I think I would also request, because I know the subject that I'm discussing right now is on the minds of many people in town. that when we that we have an accounting of how much money got spent on Dunphy Park. How much was allocated for Measure F for Dumfrey Park? How much did we spend on phase one? And obviously we have no money left over in Measure F for Phase 2. a total accounting so we know the total amount that was spent on Dumpy Park improvements. Thank you. City Clerk. |
| 02:13:20.84 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:13:22.00 | Walfred Solorzano | We have one more speaker, Lorna Newland. |
| 02:13:25.50 | Steven Woodside | Who is that? Oh, Lorna. Thank you. |
| 02:13:28.11 | Lorna Newland | Thank you. |
| 02:13:28.13 | Steven Woodside | Welcome. |
| 02:13:28.74 | Lorna Newland | Thank you. Hello, thank you. Um, I was just learning about this tonight, about this thing, but Sandra Bushmaker, I'm sorry, Lorna Newland, A 33-year Sausalito resident. Um, I'm an, What Sandra brought up about the funds allocated, I was told today by somebody else that Measure F was planned at $9 million. But Measure F, which was... approved in 2018 by 63% of the voters, the whole thing about that was that nothing would be taxed to the residents that would be paid for by the future rents of the MLK property. So, Um, In light of not going to go into the other as we all know there's another ballot proposal coming up but what's going to happen to those future rents if there is no longer a building seven bus barn or if any of our major tenants of the schools move so. That was... |
| 02:14:47.02 | Lorna Newland | Thank you. |
| 02:14:47.05 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:14:47.09 | Lorna Newland | Thank you. |
| 02:14:47.10 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:14:47.12 | Lorna Newland | Bye. |
| 02:14:47.24 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:14:47.31 | Lorna Newland | been able to address that with City Council, but it was for |
| 02:14:51.09 | Unknown | The future rent of MLK were to pay for that whole part. THE END OF HART. Thank you. |
| 02:15:00.81 | Unknown | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:15:04.69 | Steven Woodside | Lorna, you're cutting in and out, so we're not hearing the last portion of your comments. |
| 02:15:14.46 | Lorna Newland | I didn't come in. I'll speak slower. I don't know why. And Lorna, can you? |
| 02:15:15.47 | Steven Woodside | MEETING. And Lorna, can you possibly, it's been a little difficult to hear you, can you possibly send me or the city clerk and email memorializing your comments because I do want to factor them into account. Thank you. |
| 02:15:30.85 | Lorna Newland | Okay. Can I just try once again if he can extend it? |
| 02:15:31.47 | Steven Woodside | Can I just... |
| 02:15:34.96 | Steven Woodside | Yeah, we heard the first part. You can please repeat the last 30 seconds of your comments. Thank you. |
| 02:15:40.78 | Lorna Newland | had to do, it was just reiterating, Measure F approved in 2018 by 63% of the voters, The whole thing about that was future rents of the MLK properties, including the bus barn, including the schools up on Ebb Tide, and any other rents that are coming from there, which I think from the last audit was roughly over $1.5 million. So my question is, and that Measure F that was supposed to cover |
| 02:15:59.45 | Carolyn Revell | and any other. |
| 02:16:14.30 | Lorna Newland | Um, MLK The city park. and Denfee Park. And it was originally $9 million. But if we no longer have a bus barn or we lose our schools, where is the money, the future money from MLK going to come from to pay for our parks? |
| 02:16:39.80 | Steven Woodside | Okay. So when you say MLK Park, I DON'T KNOW IF THE Director McGowan has a response on this, but my understanding of MLK Park is the park portion of MLK Park. THE PARK PORTION OF CITY HALL, THE ROBIN SWEENEY PARK, the park portion of Dunphy Park. It was not the facilities located on the MLK site. And the Measure F funds that were encumbered have already been totally spent. The, um, It was my understanding that the COPs were issued for the MLK site to support the expenditure voted upon by referendum by the voters for Measure F. But those funds have now been fully spent, and the COP debt is close to being paid off. City Manager, am I right on that? We're within a year or two? |
| 02:17:37.17 | Chris Zapata | 2030 mayor |
| 02:17:38.40 | Steven Woodside | 2030 the COP borrowing that for which we pledged the MLK property So there are no more Measure F funds. So that's the reason why we're not to be spent. Again, Lorna, if you send me an email, I'll try and provide you any more detail that you may request. |
| 02:17:57.18 | Jill Hoffman | City Club. So, Mayor, the point is that the funding for the Measure F |
| 02:17:57.37 | Steven Woodside | So, |
| 02:18:03.51 | Jill Hoffman | the funding for the Measure F is that it comes from the parks and comes from the best barn. So Lorna's point is that if you tear down the bus barn that you won't have the funding mechanism to pay off the COPs. that are still active and still need to be paid off. So where's that money going to come from? |
| 02:18:21.18 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. So, um, if measure K passes and housing is built at the site of the bus barn, we, the city will receive revenue from, uh, |
| 02:18:21.50 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:18:31.80 | Steven Woodside | business license tax on that housing. So anyway, this is not a matter to be addressed as a part of this. |
| 02:18:35.66 | Jill Hoffman | is not. Not to cover the full amount of this agenda. |
| 02:18:39.79 | Steven Woodside | Agenda. Thank you. |
| 02:18:41.41 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:18:41.55 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:18:41.57 | Jill Hoffman | someplace. |
| 02:18:41.97 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Okay, any other public comment? |
| 02:18:46.39 | Walfred Solorzano | Adrienne Benton, you had her hand up? Nope, seeing none. |
| 02:18:52.03 | Steven Woodside | All right. All right. I'm going to close public comment and bring it up here for discussion. I'll go ahead and make a motion that the city council adopt a resolution of the city council of the city of Sausalito that one approves the plans and specifications for the Dunphy park improvement phase two project. 2. Authorizes the City Manager to execute the construction contract for the Dunphy Park Improvement Phase two project with Hanford applied restoration and conservation for the base bid amount of $843,150.70. Thank you. plus bid alternative one in an amount of $290,930 plus bid alternative three in an amount of $149,154.50 for a total award amount of $1,283,235.20. Three authorizes a construction contingency for the project in the amount of $116,764.80 for a total construction cost of $1.4 million. and four authorizes an additional 266,497 in Tidelands funds and an additional $49,995 from the general fund to support the project based on the bids received. |
| 02:20:08.27 | Steven Woodside | Second. |
| 02:20:09.49 | Steven Woodside | All right, and I'm open for discussion. I'm gonna again defer to our remote participants, council members Hoffman and Sobieski, any comments? NONE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HOFFMAN. Councilmember Sobieski. |
| 02:20:23.61 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:20:23.66 | Steven Woodside | Right. |
| 02:20:23.74 | Janelle Sobieski | Thank you. I'll go. Go ahead, John. |
| 02:20:26.34 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:20:26.36 | Jill Hoffman | Oh. Sorry, I've got to get used to raising my hand. Um, My comment is only thank you to Paul and everybody who's worked so hard on this for so long. Um, and thank you to Kevin for following up. Um, with my questions and let's follow up with the, former construction contracts with our city attorney to and see if any of that's covered any of the soils or any of the contamination issues are covered with the former contracts, I remember very clearly that we looked at that. with our, our previous, uh, contamination pile. Um, and the construction contracts and contract that we had. So thanks very much to everybody. for working on this and I support the motion. |
| 02:21:10.76 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. I see Director McGowan nodding his head and taking notes. All right. Council Member Sobieski. |
| 02:21:17.41 | Janelle Sobieski | I support the motion as well. It's a beautiful addition. a great step forward. uh, We're on a roll. Let's keep going. Let's And so just kudos to everybody who's who's been involved in this effort. |
| 02:21:32.90 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:21:34.62 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah, I'll go. I'm really excited to see us continue to make improvements and finalize the incredibly beautiful project that is the Dunphy Park improvement and big thank you to Jack Coleman and to all of you who served on the. beginning community organizational groups that made this possible. It's really exciting to see it. come to fruition and continue to grow and improve and it's a big step for us and I know I really enjoy my morning walks in Dunphy Park, and my afternoons at the cruising club, and my swims in front. So it's a it's a really special part of the fabric of our I don't think it is a bad idea to keep a smart accounting. I appreciate that Sandra Bushmaker made that comment. I think transparency is a great approach. I would welcome and accounting of how things are going for our spend here, but I have utmost confidence in staff, and I know that they will hold our contractors that we work with accountable going forward, and I look forward to seeing next steps as the project continues to get better and better over time. Thanks. Vice Mayor. |
| 02:22:39.49 | Steven Woodside | Yeah, I'm looking forward to voting yes with enthusiasm and gratefulness to everybody who's worked on this. I think I first met you, Jacques, in Dunphy Park. I don't know if you remember. He was already talking about phase two, and I think phase one was still underway. There's a couple points that came up tonight that I think we can have real confidence when we vote for this, that this is going to be done and done right. Thank you. The contractor is a subsidiary of Dutra. I've had dealings with them in other jurisdictions. They're local. That may be one reason. They have all kinds of equipment and stuff based locally, so I think that may give them advantage when it comes to the bid. I know we're always concerned as to the ability of a contractor once bidding to carry out, but my experience with them has been positive. So I feel good about that. I also feel good about the prospects for us to really do something special there in phase three or however we choose to call it. There are two tribes that we will be dealing with, we have to deal with. The Federated Indians of Great and Rancheria are the officially recognized representatives of the Coast Miwok and the Southern Pomo by an act of Congress. Um, Very local, of course, are the Coast Miwaka of Marin who have some property in Nicasio, local leadership and have been very active in our community. I personally dealt with a couple of them directly when we had events at the Bay Model. And I really look forward to making sure that as we move forward, we do our best to consult with the two who could assert jurisdiction and want to be helpful in that regard. So again, I really want to underscore what Member Blasstein said earlier that we really need to move forward with this because it's an opportunity. So thank you. |
| 02:24:43.65 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. I also heartily endorse this project, and I do really want to thank Jacques Ullman, Paul Leffingwell and the Friends of Dunphy Park for all of their work over the years, and Muriel, of course, and Sausalito Beautiful, everybody, for all of their really concerted efforts then and now to ensure the success of this really important project. I was really happy to hear the city manager tell me several weeks ago that Sybil Boutelier had approached him about involving some sort of recognition of the um tribal heritage in this property i represent a client in sacramento that just built a 350 million dollar improvement project that included significant landscaping that included tribal plantings as well as signage recognizing so it's sort of like a walking path around this facility that with signage along the way that recognizes the contributions of the Native Americans to that site and includes native plantings which still thrive in the climate despite climate change over the centuries since that time. And so I had been so inspired by that and then a week later I heard about the fact that Sybil had approached the city manager. So I'm so thrilled that Jacques and Sybil have already participated in a meeting with Sarah and others to start to plan for phase three and I do believe it's a really important aspect of this overall project but I'm also appreciate council member Hoffman's comments that However we approach this has to be respectful of all of the tribal influences and their intentions in how we recognize or don't recognize them in connection with this property. All right. And so with that, oh, and I also did want to Thank you, Director McGowan, for agreeing to interface with Sausalito Beautiful moving forward. I was also very interested to hear about the requested sustainability lens as we consider this project. And so I would encourage our Director of Public Works to interface with our APPROPRIATE AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT MAY ARISE AND WITH THIS PROJECT TO ENSURE THAT WE ALWAYS CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THINGS THROUGH A SUSTAINABILITY LENS. ALL RIGHT. AND WITH THAT, I WILL CALL THE QUESTION. CITY CLERK. |
| 02:27:27.00 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Blaustein? |
| 02:27:29.36 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:27:29.38 | Melissa Blaustein | ENTHUSIASTIC. |
| 02:27:29.79 | Steven Woodside | . |
| 02:27:29.97 | Melissa Blaustein | the |
| 02:27:30.02 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 02:27:30.78 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Hoffman. Thank you. |
| 02:27:32.32 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 02:27:32.33 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 02:27:32.62 | Walfred Solorzano | Council member Sobieski? Yes. Vice mayor Woodside? Yes. And Mayor Cox? |
| 02:27:38.31 | Steven Woodside | Yes, that is an enthusiastic unanimous vote in favor of phase two of this project. Thank you, everybody. All right, with that, we're going to move on. We are actually |
| 02:27:53.19 | Unknown | Can I ask you a question? Which one do you prefer? |
| 02:27:56.80 | Steven Woodside | Yes, so much better. |
| 02:27:58.22 | Unknown | Oh, okay. It's really- I was dying to ask. |
| 02:27:58.78 | Steven Woodside | It's really... No, it was really... Is it too bright? Sarah's asking about the lights over the dais, and it's been killing my eyes. What is... |
| 02:28:01.44 | Unknown | Is it too bright? It's been killing my eyes. Is this okay? |
| 02:28:08.40 | Steven Woodside | A little lower even. |
| 02:28:09.36 | Unknown | Oh, wow. |
| 02:28:10.41 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 02:28:11.13 | Unknown | Okay. That was like weird mood lighting. |
| 02:28:11.69 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. But we can putz with this over time. I'm so happy that there's a dimmer on these lights because it was it was difficult to see the screen because of the glare. |
| 02:28:18.96 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:28:23.43 | Steven Woodside | from the lights. So thank you so much, Sarah. Okay, all, we are 15 minutes ahead of schedule, hurrah. We are now moving on to item six, city manager reports, council member reports, city council appointments and other council business. We'll open up with the city manager information for council. |
| 02:28:45.86 | Chris Zapata | ONE ITEM TO REPORT MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. TOMORROW, ALONG WITH THE MAYOR AND THE VICE MAYOR, I WILL BE ATTENDING THE LEAVE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES CONFERENCE WHERE I WILL PARTAKE IN VARIOUS SESSIONS TO BE MORE INFORMED AND UNDERSTAND WHAT BEST PRACTICES ARE HAPPENING AMONGST OUR PUER CITIES AND SHARE WHAT'S GOING ON IN SAUSALITO. I'M ALSO A PANELIST ON THURSDAY MORNING TO TALK ABOUT GRANTS WITH LARRY COSMOT. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. OTHER THAN THAT, NO MORE TO REPORT, MAYOR. |
| 02:29:21.11 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. City Attorney, any information for Council? No, not this time. |
| 02:29:27.07 | Sergio Rudin | No, not this time. |
| 02:29:29.38 | Steven Woodside | All right. Council member committee reports. |
| 02:29:39.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:29:44.08 | Steven Woodside | Can you mention the mascots thing? |
| 02:29:48.08 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay, I just have a couple of updates from the TAM Transportation Authority Board meeting, so I'm just trying to pull up my notes. But one thing for consideration, you might have noted that we ended up removing from the agenda what we had had on here. with regards to mascot and the plans for mascot. We will be adding that to the agenda on the 22nd. Just to say that some of Sausalito's I've mentioned this before, but it continues to evolve. Some of Sausalito's transit routes will be impacted by the new collaboration with Marin and Sonoma Transit. So we wanted to be sure that we had a chance to weigh in. There was a recent presentation on this at Marin Transit last week. So we're reviewing those minutes and collaborating with our supervisor to make sure that we are able to provide that feedback. And our supervisor will also be convening a Southern Marin meeting that focuses specifically on mascot and its impact on October 20th. Okay. And just to share a few important notes and updates from Tam, because we had been on a summer break. I want to share just some good news from Marin Transit. Smart's ridership is up 29 percent, so we're seeing an increase in ridership. and Marin Transit is taking steps to move to zero emissions. And by 2026, 25% of all their vehicle purchases will be EV. Something that's going to impact all of Sausalito's residents is that there are new carpool lane HOV hours. So the new hours, both directions are from 5 a.m. to 10 a.m. and 3 p.m. to 7 p.m. So that's on both ways. So just be aware of that. It's a big shift. So be aware if you are driving that those are the new HOV hours. So you I don't know how soft they're going to be for the first couple of months here, but those became effective on September 6th. And those are the new hours right now. We also heard a measure a update on innovation and there will be an innovation convening of transportation on the 22nd of October at Tam. And that's the big updates. |
| 02:31:45.34 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. Councilmember Hoffman, please. |
| 02:31:52.16 | Jill Hoffman | Um, Uh, let's see. Okay. So my report is that, uh, just on the sister city, so I'm currently during the United States Leadership Summit I did meet with our Sikai Day Sister City before we came a day and a half early. So it's been a tight schedule, but we did meet with them. I met with our Mayor Arihuko in Sikai Day, Japan, and relayed your gift, Mayor, when he was delighted with it, which was the statue of our seal. and met with also the vice mayor and also the chairman of the Sakai Day city council so it was a very productive meeting We also, we then went to, so as a leadership summit, we're meeting in, Osaka, Japan, and we went to the World Expo on the first day. Also, there are council members and mayors from across California. So they're also skipping the CalCities conference. there are you know it's pluses and minuses on this on this tour so Anyway, so we're now in Yamanashi, Japan. The theme of this is its leadership, but it's also sustainability and best practices for cities, for artificial intelligence and sustainability. So hearing a lot about hydrogen energy and best practices of all these different cities, for how they're transitioning in Japan from oil to different types of energy. And so it's super interesting. Ciccadi itself is transitioning one of their oil refineries to hydrogen. They're also having a pilot program for, uh, uh, electric electric buses, driverless buses through their town, which as you know, mayor is a much larger city than Sausalito, so I'm interested to see how that's going to continue on. We're in Yamanashi, Japan right now, you know, right outside of at the foot of Mount Fuji. We go to Tokyo tomorrow. to the UN University and we'll be meeting more Japanese, we're making many connections with other council members and mayors throughout Japan. making connections throughout California, but also Japanese mayors and council members. So it's very productive, it's like speed dating. be dating for mayors and council members. very interesting. On the Cal City side, I'll just go ahead and give you the update. I'm retiring as president of the executive committee, so that's gonna happen. that's happening while I'm here. But I'll be I'll still be on the executive councils like the mayor emeritus. So I'll still be part of that group. and representing Sausalito in our interest as part of that group as a former president. So still, I'll be able to have impact on that. So that's important for Sausalito and our interest moving forward with the CalCities group. So I'm sorry you missed a conference. I'm glad you guys are going. And I know that's always a fantastic event for us and fantastic for Sausalito. So I'm glad you guys are going south. And I think that's it for the |
| 02:35:09.07 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, Councilmember. Thank you so much for your leadership on our behalf with the North Bay Council. And thank you so much for your leadership on our behalf at the Leadership Council. I know of the work that you and former mayor and Councilmember Kelman, as well as Councilmember Blaustein, have done with sustainability and other great work during your tenure. And so I know you're very capably representing us and so appreciate it. |
| 02:35:35.64 | Jill Hoffman | Appreciate it. Lots of information coming back, so I'm happy. I'll work with Council Member Blousey when I come back. Yes. |
| 02:35:41.05 | Steven Woodside | Yes, and indeed we will be hearing on October 21st regarding proposed in reach codes for electrification. And so hearing some of the alternatives like hydrogen and other things would be very helpful as we make as we consider those issues. Other council member reports. Okay, seeing none, we'll move on to appointments. I have no appointments this evening. We will be interviewing candidates for the disaster preparedness committee at our next meeting or our first meeting in November, I forget which, but coming up soon, which is we very much wanna fill that that's a very important committee for us. |
| 02:36:26.06 | Chris Zapata | I believe we've contacted the folks that are applied and seen if they're available on the 21st mayor. |
| 02:36:26.11 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Please. |
| 02:36:33.13 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. And then future agenda items. As promised, we have provided an updated future agenda items list that includes a listing of those items I intend to carry out this year, as well as identifying which items we won't have time to address this year, but remain on the agenda for next year. I do want to talk about two things to possibly add. One is there's a recommendation that we adopt a policy regarding tree removal. I see that Director McGowan is already gone. City Manager, can we perhaps discuss this at our next agenda setting committee to see how we can address Sausalito Beautiful's request that we consider some sort of policy for replacement of trees removed as part of our construction and then the other thing was a request from Sophia Collier. I'm going to ask the city attorney to come online. A request from Sophia Collier that certain council members take a pledge, I'm not sure you know, the city council voted to put something on the ballot. Following that, City Attorney, I'm not sure it's appropriate for council members to weigh in in their role as council members on a ballot measure that is pending. |
| 02:37:56.81 | Sergio Rudin | Um... I don't think that you're legally prohibited from doing it, but I don't think that it's strictly necessary in light of city council's prior direction on this subject already. You know, the city council was pretty explicit. in terms of what it anticipated staff would be doing with development of project plans on the site. Additionally, |
| 02:38:16.81 | Sandra Bushmaker | Bye. |
| 02:38:17.43 | Sergio Rudin | The measure itself restricts the city to a 32-foot height limit and no more than 50 dwelling units if it is approved. |
| 02:38:17.62 | Carolyn Revell | measuring |
| 02:38:25.40 | Sergio Rudin | pledged by the council or not, that is what the measure requires. |
| 02:38:26.50 | Carolyn Revell | Yeah. |
| 02:38:26.51 | Janelle Sobieski | No. |
| 02:38:31.42 | Janelle Sobieski | Claire, can I have a suggestion? |
| 02:38:32.27 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. Yes, thank you, councilmember. |
| 02:38:36.25 | Janelle Sobieski | So, Only in the context of whether or not... It's confusing, and as a former layperson myself... |
| 02:38:37.31 | Steven Woodside | Only in the context of whether or not |
| 02:38:42.90 | Janelle Sobieski | I'll confess that the lawyers may not appreciate how much lay people like me, you think that the ballot and language is the ballot. and actually never read the ordinance behind the ballot. perhaps agendizing a information statement from our city attorney or city manager. next at the next meeting. that simply It's educational to say the ballot language authorizes and approves the ordinance. The ordinance is the law, and the ordinance clearly states this 32-foot limit. could be clarifying for people who are genuinely confused when they read the ballot language and think that that's the operative language when it's actually the ordinance. |
| 02:39:26.30 | Steven Woodside | So if the city attorney believes an informational statement is appropriate and if a majority of the council members believe that's and would like to have that as a future agenda item, I'm happy to take that under consideration as at the agenda setting committee. |
| 02:39:41.86 | Jill Hoffman | Oh, I think. |
| 02:39:43.02 | Sergio Rudin | Mayor, I think the other issue is the city is I believe in the process of mail information campaign to registered voters. I believe that the city may be going to publication with the next mailer. which I believe will Note the correction to the prior mailer with regards to the ballot question and explain that. I think It may also be helpful for that mailer to reference the 32 foot height limit and show where in the city ballot measure the 32-foot height limit and the 50-unit restriction exist. |
| 02:40:23.12 | Steven Woodside | So again, Thank you, City Attorney. The council is not involved in what the city is what city staff is working on. We have deliberately erected an ethical wall so that we are not Weighing in, providing advice, providing feedback, on that. Plus, different council members have different views on this issue and so All I was asking, so... Thank you for that. Thank you. So Councilmember Sobieski in view of the updated website and the updated Um, Um, informational mailer. Do you still believe that's something that you're asking that it be just |
| 02:41:07.03 | Janelle Sobieski | I was just responding to your highlighting of Sophia's comment and looking for ideas on how to respond that it might have been appropriate for future meeting, but I'd leave that to you and Vice-Marina. And I think those are and to make your judgment, um, |
| 02:41:17.62 | Steven Woodside | And I think. |
| 02:41:18.13 | Unknown | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 02:41:21.93 | Janelle Sobieski | But if you feel like it would be helpful in reducing confusion, would appreciate being less confused, even if they don't end up agreeing with one another, at least they can operate from the same set of facts. |
| 02:41:34.03 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:41:34.42 | Steven Woodside | I think with respect to this as well as anything else, we asked the city attorney to prepare an impartial analysis. That's a duty that falls on our city attorney. |
| 02:41:34.47 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:41:34.80 | Janelle Sobieski | with the... |
| 02:41:46.41 | Steven Woodside | to be impartial and to try to explain the impact and meaning of whatever is on the ballot. |
| 02:41:47.71 | Carolyn Revell | THE CITY IS A CITY IS A CITY |
| 02:41:51.73 | Steven Woodside | And that happens each and every time there's something on the ballot. So I think it goes without saying that should he decide in light of what may be coming up at public comments or whatever, that he wishes to provide a further clarification. I'd leave it to his discretion to make that call. I think with respect to us collectively, I think we've done what was promised of HCD and put something on the ballot. |
| 02:42:19.71 | Unknown | Yep. |
| 02:42:20.11 | Steven Woodside | And now individually, I think we're free to express our views. And I think many of us have already done so and will continue to do so. But I think a collective pledge or something I think is probably not appropriate for a council majority. There's all kinds of implications for that. So. |
| 02:42:39.20 | Steven Woodside | I tend to agree. Thank you. Okay, thank you for that helpful discussion. |
| 02:42:44.26 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. |
| 02:42:44.48 | Steven Woodside | Don't worry. |
| 02:42:44.55 | Melissa Blaustein | on future agenda items because I'd like to add. Yeah, I had brought up several months ago the issue of wanting to talk about responsible use for AI within our community and also at the city level. And I wanted to note in light of SB seven, which the governor has yet to sign, but will have implications for all employers. But it brings up an opportunity for conversation. So I would really like us to have a number of discussions about how the city will use AI, what our employment practices will be for AI, what types of requirements and qualifications we might have for that. It's critical and the longer we wait, the more we're falling behind. |
| 02:43:20.96 | Steven Woodside | So AI is on our future agenda items list. It's not something we're going to cover this year, but it is slated for hearing in 2026. |
| 02:43:28.52 | Jill Hoffman | I'm here. |
| 02:43:32.20 | Jill Hoffman | I have a request again for a forensic audit, and it's a request that it's on our agenda to discuss a forensic audit and whether or not we want to move forward with a forensic audit. |
| 02:43:45.45 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. All right. Next is minutes from boards, commissions, and committees. There are none. Other reports of significance? I see none. I'll now take public comment on items 6A through 6C and 6E through 6G. |
| 02:44:02.36 | Walfred Solorzano | We have Babette McDougal. |
| 02:44:08.11 | Babette McDougall | Thank you for that. So I'm glad we're talking about future agenda items because it was recently that, in fact, I brought to your attention The fact that we needed to invert like the hourglass, it's time to turn it upside down to run the sand through the glass again. At the very bottom of your list was ethics. Let's put together some kind of documentation that I see you laughing. Nobody wants ethics. And that made that was made very clear by you, Madam Mayor. I will never buy. What did you say? Bind the hands of any city council by ethics. That just really hit me. I knew you had to be misspeaking, but you said, no, no, no, I really mean it. Well, all right, we just see why this really is necessary. I see it's off the list altogether now. And only a few meetings ago, it was still hanging on by a thread, and now it's gone without any collection of information at all. So why is that appropriate? Well, you know, item 11, which is done, It's an example of an abuse of your power, bringing something to the people's attention at the city council level that hasn't got a stitch of paper in the planning process. It does not belong at the council. That's an abuse of your power. Why is that important? Because there's so much suspicion about four of you as being too crooked to be relied upon. Now, that's so sad to say that that's what the town thinks of you. That's so sad. There's one person on your council who's credible, and she's in Japan at the moment. All right, so the next thing going forward about the item, number 26, I believe it is. I don't understand what you mean by meeting protocols. But once again, if we're going to go back to twitching out, get rid of Rosenberg. Why in the world would you hold on to Rosenberg? Bring back Robert's Rules of Order. Let's have fair and open. public meetings, and we can do that if we govern ourselves appropriately. I don't know what you're afraid of. The people are not going to kill you just because they want to debate you. They are not your enemies because they may or may not agree. Although I've been told I'm |
| 02:46:09.90 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:46:09.92 | Babette McDougall | I'm not sure. |
| 02:46:09.97 | Steven Woodside | Bye. |
| 02:46:09.98 | Babette McDougall | Thank you. |
| 02:46:10.03 | Steven Woodside | All right, thank you. |
| 02:46:10.96 | Babette McDougall | habit. Walfred. |
| 02:46:12.65 | Walfred Solorzano | Sandra Bushmaker. |
| 02:46:18.25 | Sandra Bushmaker | Hello again. Real quick, I just want to reinforce putting a forensic audit on the future agenda items. If nothing else, to give the public a chance to have confidence in the finances and the financial reporting of the city. based solely on the fact that we've had seven financial Uh, finance directors over X period of time. It gives the public confidence to know that an outside agency can take a look at our finances and say okay and I'm not talking about the in house. I mean the annual audit. I'm talking about a forensic audit, which is a whole different animal. So I'd appreciate that going on the agenda for discussion. Thank you. |
| 02:47:08.17 | Walfred Solorzano | No further public comments. |
| 02:47:09.67 | Sandra Bushmaker | Thank you. |
| 02:47:09.69 | Steven Woodside | Okay, go ahead. I didn't have a speaker card. Come on up. |
| 02:47:21.26 | Sybil Boutelier | Thank you, Mayor. At a previous meeting of the City Council, you mentioned your intention to put on the agenda before the end |
| 02:47:31.03 | Steven Woodside | ITEMS TWICE. WE WILL BE HEARING IT ON THE SECOND MEETING IN NOVEMBER FOLLOWING THE ELECTION. ON THE VISITABILITY? VISITABILITY, YES. ON DECEMBER 2nd? NO, THE SECOND MEETING IN NOVEMBER FOLLOWING THE ELECTION. ballot results for measure K. |
| 02:47:51.47 | Sybil Boutelier | Thank you. |
| 02:47:51.49 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:47:51.96 | Sybil Boutelier | Thank you. |
| 02:47:51.98 | Steven Woodside | Thank you so much. |
| 02:47:54.44 | Walfred Solorzano | No further public comment? |
| 02:47:56.14 | Steven Woodside | All right, thank you. This evening, I'm going to, I'm going to go, although we won't formally be adjourning our meeting yet because we're going to go into closed session, I'm going to go ahead and announce now that we will be adjourning our meeting in honor of Gail Taylor. So Gail Taylor passed away peacefully in her sleep on September, in late September, after spending a lovely day with her family. Gail Ann lived most of her years in her beloved Sausalito and was a pillar of the Sausalito community for decades, along with her husband and best friend Jerry Taylor, whom we all know, of course, from the Um, Historical Society I'm going to read a tribute written by Karen Cleary. for Gayle. Gayle Ann is intelligent, God-given, yes, but Gayle Ann's savvy and smarts are informed by a positive can-do attitude. The word no is simply not in her vocabulary. Solving problems, facing challenges head on, tackling conundrums are totally in her wheelhouse, Gail Ann is a woman of her word. If she commits to something, board position, Jinx production, fundraiser, she is in from start to finish 100%. Gail Ann has a sense of humor, the twinkle in her eye, her razor-sharp wit, her joie de vivre are infectious. Together, these qualities make the process of working toward the goal as much fun as achieving the goal. It is one thing to be gifted quite another to employ those gifts for the benefit of others whether we're talking big brush strokes or small nuances, Gale embodies the essence of the kind of human being that our collect, beckons us to be and become. And so it's my honor to later this evening adjourn our meeting in honor of Gail and Taylor, we extend our condolences to her husband, Jerry, her daughter, Siobhan, and son-in-law, Jack, and all her family and friends. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, we will now adjourn to closed session. We will consider items C1 through C5. C1 is public employee employment, government code section 54957, title city manager, C2 Conference with Real Property Negotiator, Government Code Section 54956.8 property Old City Hall 731 Bridgeway Sausalito negotiating parties, Jean Hiller, and the city manager and city attorney C3 conference with real property negotiators government code section 5495 6.8 property 300 Spencer agency negotiator, city manager, city attorney, negotiating party, Southern Marine Fire Protection District, C4, Conference with Real Property Negotiators, Government Code Section 54956.8. property 558 Bridgeway. agency negotiator, city manager, city attorney, and Bridgeway 558 Real Property LLC, and C5 Conference with Legal Counsel Anticipated Litigation Government Code Section 54956.9 D2, significant exposure to litigation, one case. I'll open it up for public comment on our closed session items. |
| 02:51:15.13 | Walfred Solorzano | See none. Oh, actually, bubba. No. |
| 02:51:18.54 | Steven Woodside | Okay, with that we will |
| 02:51:18.95 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 02:51:18.97 | Walfred Solorzano | No, I should not. |
| 02:51:19.40 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. I will be recusing myself from item 5C because I live within 150 feet of 300 Spencer. I'm not engaging in those discussions. |
| 02:51:30.14 | Steven Woodside | So that's actually C. C3. C3. So we will take C3, the second to last, and we will take C5 last in deference to our... |
| 02:51:35.64 | Melissa Blaustein | C3. Sorry, C3. |
| 02:51:49.19 | Steven Woodside | Council members who are attending remotely we will take C2 and actually we will take C2 and C3 first because we have our negotiator with us |
| 02:52:02.42 | Janelle Sobieski | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:52:02.49 | Steven Woodside | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:52:02.91 | Janelle Sobieski | And yeah, I'm refusing myself from that last item because of it. |
| 02:52:03.14 | Steven Woodside | and, you know, |
| 02:52:03.23 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:52:05.64 | Steven Woodside | You're recusing yourself from C5 right Councilmember? |
| 02:52:09.44 | Janelle Sobieski | Okay. All right. |
| 02:52:10.33 | Steven Woodside | All right, with that, we are adjourned. |
| 02:52:11.11 | Janelle Sobieski | It might probably be my assessment about its potential potential |
| 02:52:14.03 | Steven Woodside | I'm sorry, I can't hear what you're saying. |
| 02:52:16.31 | Janelle Sobieski | because of my assessment of its potential conflict of interest due to its location. I am accusing myself from a C5. |
| 02:52:23.09 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Okay, with that, we will adjourn to closed session. Thank you, everybody. |
Sophia Collier — In Favor: Supports Measure K but noted confusion due to typo in city mailing. Suggested council take a public pledge to maintain 50 units at 32 feet to alleviate community distrust. ▶ 📄
Jonathan Harris — Neutral: Undecided on Measure K, confused by mailings, and suggested using story poles and lighting to help visualize the 32-foot height limit for better public understanding. ▶ 📄
Carolyn Revell — Neutral: Representing Sausalito Beautiful, concerned about removal of mature trees for public works projects. Advocated for exploring alternatives to tree removal and adopting a policy to replace removed trees with new plantings. ▶ 📄
Adrian Brinton — Neutral: Expressed concern about ongoing confusion regarding Measure K height limits, noting conflicting communications. Urged council to counter misinformation so voters can make informed decisions. ▶ 📄