| Time | Speaker | Text |
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| 00:00:00.47 | Unknown | So, |
| 00:00:01.70 | Walfred Solorzano | All right, we're ready. |
| 00:00:04.66 | Unknown | you know, |
| 00:00:05.80 | Walfred Solorzano | Okay. Oh, he's not sitting down yet. Thank you. |
| 00:00:13.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:13.07 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:00:14.12 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:15.30 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 00:00:15.32 | Unknown | . Okay. |
| 00:00:20.13 | Chris Zapata | We have a time. I'll ask you. |
| 00:00:22.54 | Unknown | . |
| 00:00:23.45 | Chris Zapata | and a good thing. Thank you. |
| 00:00:26.57 | Unknown | I don't know. I'm going to be back on time. |
| 00:00:31.28 | Walfred Solorzano | All right. Good morning, Mayor and City Council. Today's special meeting is being held here at 333 Johnson Street, the Southern Marin Fire Protection District Station, Station 1. It's also being broadcast on Zoom, and it is broadcast on cable TV, Channel 27. And this meeting will be up on the city's website sometime this weekend. Mayor? |
| 00:00:31.39 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:00:59.14 | Steven Woodside | and that we've all the role. |
| 00:01:02.40 | Walfred Solorzano | Okay, Councilmember Cox. Thank you. |
| 00:01:06.87 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:01:06.89 | Melissa Blaustein | year. |
| 00:01:07.75 | Walfred Solorzano | Councilmember Hoffman, Councilmember Sobieski, Vice Mayor Blaustein, and Mayor Woodside. |
| 00:01:10.60 | Melissa Blaustein | here. |
| 00:01:14.13 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 00:01:14.15 | Steven Woodside | Here. Thanks to you and to everyone who's here today. It's going to be awkward for all of us to see each other at the same time, but we welcome you. And we look forward to hearing from people who want to make comments on that shortly. Um, but first I just want to introduce our facilitator, Amy Howard. Uh, Amy has, um, done this. It's now your third time. Amy is a consultant, also an experienced member of the Manhattan Beach City Council and the mayor of California. Right. |
| 00:01:51.49 | Amy Howard | Three times. |
| 00:01:52.27 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 00:01:53.82 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 00:01:54.26 | Steven Woodside | I'm not sure. So, however, you're not elected by softening legions. |
| 00:01:58.70 | Unknown | I'm only very happy. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:02:01.21 | Steven Woodside | So, but I think we, I don't see it. Well, there's slides right there. So we can do the pledge |
| 00:02:08.59 | Unknown | . |
| 00:02:09.23 | Steven Woodside | as a boy. |
| 00:02:09.83 | Unknown | I bet. |
| 00:02:10.15 | Steven Woodside | guidelines. |
| 00:02:10.79 | Unknown | Thank you. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. |
| 00:02:14.20 | Carolyn Revell | the flag of the United States. |
| 00:02:30.07 | Steven Woodside | Before we get into the public comment, Amy's just kind of, as explained, for today's, give us an idea of what's to come. |
| 00:02:40.18 | Amy Howard | All right, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Can you all hear me? And I want to assure you that your city council, who they were elected by you, hates to have their back to the public. And it's a very awkward position for council members. That's Brackham all of them, right? And they carry on the day because they really have you |
| 00:02:57.44 | Carolyn Revell | And thank you. |
| 00:03:01.76 | Amy Howard | in the front of their vision, but today from Balakay, you're sitting around them. through the room. And I know this because as he said, I'm nearing 20 years of experience being elected in Manhattan Beach And I do what I do on the weekends because I care passionately about local health. Uh, and the people who serve in local government. Today we see a lot of things in our country which are really Not stable, I think, in a way, but here on the local level, we can make a difference. And whether it's fixing the pavement or helping businesses thrive you know, warning folks about the pink tides that are coming in. These have an impact on your everyday life. And the five people here who you elected care deeply about that. And I am very grateful for the opportunity to be here for the third time. Tommy said that I'm glad you said I'm not elected by you guys because I tend to insert myself because that's what we do where you send a microphone, but my job here today. is to help all of these invokes have an equal opportunity to speak to each other to ask them questions and to get them to try to focus what they're doing for this coming year so they can make your life better. So that's sort of my role here. But I'm not shy. So sometimes, like last year, the mayor, even though she was on the center, she had to say, Hey, Amy, that's for us. And she was absolutely right. So let me just, Tell you what's going to happen today. And then we'll get to your comments, the public comment. After your public comments, we're going to turn over to your city manager who's got a presentation to give to the council. And then we'll, I'll take the lead and guide them on a discussion of our 2020-2026 strategic plan. QB 2026. |
| 00:05:01.77 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:05:02.40 | Amy Howard | that. |
| 00:05:02.75 | Unknown | We didn't know that. |
| 00:05:03.17 | Amy Howard | The end of some things? So we're going to reuse some of that to see if some of those things are still applicable. discuss if you're affirm if you want to keep going with that strategic plan process. We'll also talk about future agenda items. Too many, not enough. Sorry, Mr. City Manager, I didn't really say not enough. But also just |
| 00:05:24.05 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. |
| 00:05:24.06 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 00:05:26.44 | Amy Howard | I want to give the council time to dream a bit. So there will be during lunch, we're going to say, Hey, what excites you? What one thing or two things would be really exciting to do in 2027, right? Because these folks have vision and they're representing your vision and they don't want to just approve a budget and hire a new city manager, but those are very big things that they have to do. So, and then There will be another chance for public comments for those of you who are still here. And it's nice to see some familiar faces from last year. I do recognize some members of the public because they were here last year. So, but there will be another chance for public comment before we wrap up with Nick. um uh mr mayor point of order |
| 00:06:08.80 | Angeline Loeffler | Thank you. |
| 00:06:11.35 | Steven Woodside | Well, you know, let's wait. You'll have a chance for public. I'm in a moment. But she's got to better than it. Thank you, sir. |
| 00:06:13.07 | Amy Howard | Right. |
| 00:06:18.10 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you, sir. Is that a live turn? We'll talk about it over the rest. |
| 00:06:18.76 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 00:06:21.47 | Steven Woodside | Well, we'll get to that. Thank you. |
| 00:06:23.79 | Amy Howard | Good question. And I do want to say, I said earlier that the council doesn't love having you with their back just because they want to be able to take you with the charter |
| 00:06:33.34 | Unknown | is, you know, |
| 00:06:34.52 | Amy Howard | But also, let's all be patient with any technical issues that we can have. I know that the staff was here early working on it and they are doing your best. Let's also give grace for that. And with that, I'm going to sit down and listen to the public as well. And again, just thank you for the opportunity to be here. And I know there's going to be some great discussion today. |
| 00:06:52.47 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:06:58.53 | Steven Woodside | So I would say that you have a choice. You want to stand up and be heard or you can say seated on the phone. That's fine. If you want to come to the front where everyone can see you, that's fine. You'll hear your call. We don't know that there's a microphone there, so you'll have to be able to divert. |
| 00:07:28.75 | Walfred Solorzano | We can hear everybody, Mayor, and if you want to send them to the podium to speak, |
| 00:07:34.78 | Steven Woodside | Well, I'll leave it to the end of it. Some people might want to make their comment where they are right now. And I just want to say something about the format |
| 00:07:34.80 | Walfred Solorzano | Wow. |
| 00:07:38.90 | Walfred Solorzano | Right. |
| 00:07:48.33 | Steven Woodside | Maybe this isn't a deal even for us. There was a nice horseshoe and so forth. That'd be great. Problem is trying to solve the third and swing on them. for those who are not the following. We're doing the best we can. of Secondly, with respect to the Brown Act, this is probably one of the few times in the year that all five of us get together to have a conversation. YOU KNOW, I CAN TALK TO JOB ABOUT SOMETHING, AND THEN OUR CITY ATTORNEY WILL TELL US, THAT'S and go to the university and say, oh, the gentleman said this, and how about if there's both? I would get violated by the way. We all have seen you on screen. Third year. You're really our city attorney. |
| 00:08:39.17 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:08:39.19 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:08:39.21 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:08:39.31 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:08:39.65 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:08:40.88 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:08:40.89 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:08:40.91 | Unknown | Don't forget me to come. |
| 00:08:41.30 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. And then, Okay, so Yeah, you can hand your card to me. You don't have to be as long as we are in this game. OK. The first person here this morning is Farrah Morales. Errol? |
| 00:09:00.64 | Unknown | Can I walk over there? |
| 00:09:01.65 | Steven Woodside | Shares anywhere to make tournaments. |
| 00:09:10.24 | Unknown | We want to name which may our condition number. |
| 00:09:13.02 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 00:09:13.11 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:09:13.24 | Melissa Blaustein | Good morning. |
| 00:09:13.51 | Unknown | more. Thank you. |
| 00:09:15.56 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 00:09:15.57 | Unknown | here. |
| 00:09:15.93 | Melissa Blaustein | you in the community who showed up this morning. I'm back. As you know, as most of you know, in the last two years, I've been working on the Sally Stanford project We have raised $100,000, a lot of $100, a lot of $20, A lot of small bills that got us to $100,000. So, There is a huge demand and interest for that statute to be in town. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:09:54.64 | Melissa Blaustein | not only just the statue, I've walked into many towns from Yontdale to even further north. The city in the Barcadero has an 80-foot statue of a naked woman in the Barcadero. I'm not asking for a native woman here on Sasquedo. We made a movie about this woman. She was a colorful character. She's infamous. How many other towns in this country have a movie made about their mayor? I don't know, Betty. It may be. I'm just not aware of it. But we also need to have art in this town. Not just Sally, but I read five to six news apps a day, and once in a while, the town of Sausalito popped up as one of the 10 cute towns, cute and quaint and charming. And we have no art in town. |
| 00:10:45.52 | SPEAKER_00 | you. Thank you. |
| 00:10:51.39 | Melissa Blaustein | So, I'd like to maybe get on the first half of this year, we've been talking about this. I've been talking about it for two and a half years. I have the money. I'm not asking the city for any money. I'm not asking you for anything because of the, what's the name of that act where you guys can't talk to each other? Brown Act? Brown Act. |
| 00:11:12.58 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:11:12.84 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. whatever that act is called. I've spoken to Mr. So I've cornered him at one time. Mr. So let's give me a Thank you. spoken to the mayor, Chris. Couple phone calls haven't been returned. But |
| 00:11:30.93 | Walfred Solorzano | Mayor, that's two minutes. you |
| 00:11:32.33 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay. Get this on agenda. |
| 00:11:32.95 | Walfred Solorzano | Okay. |
| 00:11:33.34 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. I think most of you know this, but you will be limiting the comments too. And keep them brief. And as I think most of you know, we can't act upon anything right now, but we do, you are listening and thank you. Thank you. The next person is Carolyn Revell. |
| 00:12:05.61 | Jill Hoffman | I'm speaking this morning as a member of the Sassolito beautiful board chairman of the downtown Sassolito Association board. As you consider city priorities and future projects with funding, I urge you to include green infrastructure and to continue the successful partnerships, beautification partnerships with all community organizations. Sausalito Beautiful is currently working closely in the city on the tree planting project, and the placement project in downtown Midageway underway right now. and we hope to continue the project to replace the dying and repair trees later on Princess Street in future by planting. DSA has commissioned a design concept study for Princess and Bridgeway to enhance public space and amenities, and we've ordered 21 hanging flower baskets for next spring. Adrian is going to highlight other DSA priorities. Sassalutel Beautiful also plans to continue our street tree planting program on Caledonia and to work with the city in replacing trees wherever we moved for sidewalk conflicts. |
| 00:12:39.37 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:13:06.71 | Jill Hoffman | In nature, it's also a critical thing. As a saving to the city, our adopted parks program worked closely with Oscar de Farrio and his crew in helping maintain our parks and public spaces and other spaces like the Long Park in La Tawande. And please enjoy the Dacodils we planned in Papuaquilucovo, landscape beautification projects benefit visitors and residents alive So please consider them when you're finally listening. Thank you. |
| 00:13:33.47 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. You mentioned favorite of Britain, he's the last speaker. Thank you. |
| 00:13:45.05 | Adrian Brinton | Morning, thank you for taking my comments and thank you for dedicating another beautiful Saturday morning to this process. I'm going to speak here for a few minutes as a member of the downtown and South Florida Association board. I'm going to say a few words to myself as a resident. As part of the Downtown Sausalito Association, we've been really busy. We've created a visitor's guide, we've been saw lighting, cafe tables, we were working on wayfinding, we did a lot of work on holiday by the bay. We're also doing a branding exercise. We're working on a Downtown Streetscape vision. We've got the Dog Days event, one of our first big events coming up in April. And we're busy developing a website to really showcase Sausalito, particularly downtown, but really the whole town. We're trying to enhance downtown as a driver of the key economic and general facilities. One of the highest priorities we have this year is water access and particularly downtown water access. People can see the water, they can't get to the water. We have city-owned property on the water that is in really bad disrepair. We're trying to adopt a particular example there, 25 years since that fell into the bay and it's still that way. We want to really prioritize getting that fixed. Utah Sheep Park as well is another huge part of it. This year we want to I want to focus on the project here on our Dave Wilson part. we want to really prioritize getting that fixed. Yetak Sheep Park as well is another huge priority. This year we want to focus on the private pier on the Hayes-Wilson Park, investigating on motorized access in those few places. Those are really big game-changing. They're right in the hard part down now. And we want to partner with the city on finding grants and finding the resources that are necessary to get these things fixed. So let's work together and get it done. I think it would be a great thing for the city. So that's the Davos Alcedo Association. As a resident, I'm really particularly concerned about the economics of our town. We need to increase our revenues. We have a lot of stuff we want to get done. We've done a lot of stuff. We've done a lot on infrastructure, which has been great, but to really, really fix our infrastructure, we need to increase our revenues. We need to look at things this year that are stopping us from doing that. That's, I'm |
| 00:15:48.71 | Alice Merrill | I'm Yeah. |
| 00:15:50.89 | Adrian Brinton | Thank you. Thank you. Our next is Brent Moore. |
| 00:15:54.23 | Brent Moore | Thank you. |
| 00:15:54.25 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:15:55.39 | Brent Moore | the I would say you guys have a lot of priorities that you're dealing with. You don't shoot for the moon, you won't rain in the stars. So I appreciate all the efforts that you guys put forth this year. A couple of my comments I was thinking about were other than the streets, it'd be nice to have the capital improvement projects be completed as part of a comprehensive plan for that project, whether it be streets, whether it be other infrastructure items that you have a plan where you're shooting for. And where there's finances may be an impediment. You could have that overall plan done in phases versus having these little projects done. It'd be great to, there, what Nidyan said, enhance the waterfront access, especially the Journey Street dock that you're working on, as well as the possibility of going back to the trident here. Another item would be a great opportunity to look for financially encouraging property owners to obtain tenants for the vacant stores downstairs or downtown or to penalize property owners for keeping their store friends vacant. |
| 00:16:48.41 | Unknown | to obtain |
| 00:16:58.57 | Brent Moore | Also with respect to looking for financial incentives that can draw business owners to use downtown without fees. You can |
| 00:16:59.89 | SPEAKER_00 | the |
| 00:17:09.05 | Brent Moore | withhold fees or building permits so that business owners have a financial incentive to come to Saus Lago versus other tenants. It'd be nice to open up the partnership, partnerships with the city to get businesses down there, housing down there, et cetera. I'd love to see you repeal 1022 and have that open up the city for more economic development. And finally, if you can review various aesthetics and you see if there's ways to improve them, either with a partnership with. up the city for more economic development. And finally, if you can review various aesthetics and you can see if there's ways to improve them either with a partnership with a city and property owner or we encourage your property owner to enhance some dilapidating aesthetics that will come. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. |
| 00:17:48.03 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. And next is Mark Tolman. |
| 00:17:51.81 | Unknown | and then, |
| 00:17:51.93 | Brent Moore | Bye. |
| 00:18:01.38 | Chris Zapata | Thank you Mayor Woodside and also members. As I begin my sixth year serving on the sustainability commission, I want to express my gratitude for allowing me to participate in city governance this way. It's been a very meaningful experience for me, an active collaborative citizen, other commissioners, staff, and city council, as well as with the greater Marin County sustainability and resiliency community. And I believe that these efforts have been beneficial for some of the others. Earlier this week, I was charging my car at Don't Be Block, the Marin Transit, number 17, old bottom. It reminded me that our future is not binary. It's not EVs or buses. It's not climate action or equity. It's not growth or community. The future we need is interdependent On sea level rise, Water is a powerful force. Our shoreline will look different in the coming decades. We'll need engineer studies. solution. Nature-based solution. and most difficult community acceptance of real change. or what I call intellectual adaptation. our strengths and mobility. Driving cities put people first. Walkability, transit, safety, and climate smart infrastructure are core to Saus Leo's future. On buildings, those are the floor, that's the ceiling. |
| 00:19:30.75 | Unknown | . |
| 00:19:34.80 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. Gas appliances now emit more nitrous oxides in the Bay Area than vehicles. Clean electric systems mean healthier homes, lower long-term costs, greater resilience. Will we build a city ready for the future? our general plan, our climate action plan, our low emissions action plan, all point to an interdependent forward-looking Sausalito. I encourage the council to continue leaning into that vision. It's time, Eric. Confidence and ambition. Thank you for your leadership. |
| 00:20:03.86 | Unknown | Hi, Mayor. |
| 00:20:08.16 | Chris Zapata | and commitment to this essential work Thank you very much, Paul Mercer. |
| 00:20:11.98 | Steven Woodside | Next is that after then Google. |
| 00:20:19.40 | Unknown | I'm going to |
| 00:20:25.56 | Carolyn Revell | I'm not really clear how the sound system is meant to work, but I'm just going to take it all on faith. And since we're talking about looking to our future and place making going forward, I would like to read something to you that Martin Luther King Jr. said not so very long ago. He said, we must come to seek. that the end we seek is a society at peace with itself a society that can live with his conscience. That's kind of where we are in that path. kind of come to Mecca, come to Jesus kind of moment. We do have to face some realities about how you evolve as an economy. We do have to look seriously about what we need to do before we're emotionally involved. Spent the last few years being learned getting educated I think now. There seems to be enough consensus among us so that we can work together to see how disastrous it can be when we don't work together. There should be a coordinated plan to try to attract people to those empty storefronts up and down the town. there should be a coordinating committee for all of these things because everybody cares that So I just encourage you to think with the greatest possible open minds, generous spirit, that very good as you go forward to it. Well, Ms. Manhattan Beach, thanks for coming back. Thank you. |
| 00:21:48.37 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:21:48.67 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:21:48.70 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:21:49.50 | Steven Woodside | Next is our third review of R. |
| 00:21:57.01 | Steven Woodside | if I pronounce your name, right? |
| 00:22:03.08 | Alice Merrill | I wanted to talk to you about improvements, things that I think it would make a lot nicer and the subject is toilets. You have a very nice toilet downtown. You have a very nice toilet down here in the park. but I'm in a, southern end of town. And I've been told that there is a public toilet on your pier. or on parking at Detroit. Uh, I've seen better toilets in Mexico. And somebody has to address that toilet. It's always, it's locked. If it is a city toilet or if it's a city toilet, you need to address the thing and possibly, you know, make it nicer because it would be a nice improvement. I've had people walk on the street and ask me, can I use your toilet? They walk down that most beautiful section, looking at the water, and if it's there, |
| 00:23:09.11 | Unknown | and then, |
| 00:23:17.11 | Alice Merrill | There's no sign. There's nothing. And if it is city owned, you need to improve. Thank you. |
| 00:23:25.94 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. I think that we're all unaware that there's nothing to be fall or to, |
| 00:23:29.89 | SPEAKER_00 | Bye. |
| 00:23:30.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:23:30.09 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. |
| 00:23:30.11 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:23:30.21 | SPEAKER_00 | it. |
| 00:23:37.28 | Steven Woodside | ready? Thank you. that we should take. and into consideration. Uh, I have one more card, Alex Merrill. Anyone else? I'm probably. |
| 00:23:55.22 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. I love that. Thank you. |
| 00:23:58.62 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:23:59.20 | Jill Hoffman | Right here. |
| 00:23:59.72 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:24:00.23 | Jill Hoffman | I know. |
| 00:24:00.70 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 00:24:02.07 | Amy Howard | Water access. I've always been surprised at this little town because me, the people on the hill are looking at the view of the |
| 00:24:11.97 | Jill Hoffman | water and boats can get out but people who come on boats There's a big question. |
| 00:24:20.04 | Amy Howard | been around on the sea and been coming into harbors where it's expected for people to come. |
| 00:24:27.03 | Jill Hoffman | and have a place to tie up and to talk to people. We don't have that. We've never had that. You know, we sort of dove over at Right? But that was never really what that was. It's really interesting that all these years of my mood, We haven't. |
| 00:24:43.19 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:24:44.36 | Jill Hoffman | Invited. people who are traveling by boat. And I would love to see that. It's just one of my little wishes. And of course, the joinery docks, we are working on that, no joinery area docks, we're working on those, that's good. Speaking of art, I, go to towns and there's paintings |
| 00:25:06.97 | Amy Howard | walls. And I love that. And I know that Victoria Kulela Thank you. |
| 00:25:13.06 | Jill Hoffman | brought it up. a few years ago and was pretty much shot down And I love the idea. They have a lot of big walls. We could look paintings. We could have artists real paintings, not approved payments by the, you know, the CDC or something, but So we're all doing things. |
| 00:25:33.63 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 00:25:33.68 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. And, um, |
| 00:25:34.96 | Carolyn Revell | And so I think that's great. Little towns have those little boxes that are like boxes. I didn't see any of this town. They all have painting on them. |
| 00:25:43.97 | Amy Howard | of I love the idea of getting the property owners. |
| 00:25:49.97 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:25:50.03 | Amy Howard | involved in re-renting, lowering the rent, making it possible for businesses to actually come in and maybe have an income penalty. And then the last thing is no major housing in the partnership. I don't see a lot of partnership |
| 00:25:59.01 | Unknown | time here. |
| 00:26:05.04 | Jill Hoffman | here, but I'm here and that is not a place to put housing. Please, thank you. |
| 00:26:12.66 | Steven Woodside | Okay, one more speaker, Linda Voss. |
| 00:26:18.21 | Alice Merrill | What? |
| 00:26:22.01 | Amy Howard | Hi, I'm Linda Potts, resident, business owner, commercial landlord, and I'm the community downtown business association for the waterfront access and special events. Downtown is suffering. It really needs to be elevated to a budgetary priority today. After 25 years in disrepair, the city public, |
| 00:26:44.03 | Jill Hoffman | needs prepared, prepared now with these budget funds. |
| 00:26:47.96 | Amy Howard | Yichachi Park |
| 00:26:50.08 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:26:50.50 | Amy Howard | should be put on priority list for 2027. And we're happy to help with grant funding search for that. um |
| 00:26:59.96 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. you |
| 00:27:00.38 | Amy Howard | But the |
| 00:27:01.03 | Jill Hoffman | if you get it on here, my phone is now, for that city pier, it would be, very appreciate it. |
| 00:27:06.98 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Hey, I have no more figure cards. |
| 00:27:10.21 | Walfred Solorzano | We do have some people online. We have one speaker. If anybody would like to speak, please use the raise hand function. Right now we have a charlie |
| 00:27:26.58 | Walfred Solorzano | Charlie, if you can speak. |
| 00:27:36.16 | Unknown | Charlie? |
| 00:27:41.63 | SPEAKER_00 | Sorry, I had to find my unmute. |
| 00:27:44.23 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:27:44.24 | Walfred Solorzano | Oh, OK, great. |
| 00:27:44.90 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. Can everyone hear me now? |
| 00:27:48.02 | Walfred Solorzano | Yeah, we can hear you. All right, you go. |
| 00:27:49.41 | SPEAKER_00 | Great. The first thing I wanted to say is love Sally Stanford. Wish I had been alive when she Ran six times, finally made it, and then became mayor. Um, moving forward. Um, I wanted to make a comment about the email I received from Mayor Woodside. most recently on January 28th. I think everything was absolutely on point. as far as goals Any further elaboration on that? I don't need to take public time to do. but I wanted to speak also on Measure K When I first started getting disinformation, campaign. items in the mail. I knew it was nonsense and I just kind of set aside now, Yeah, I'll get to that when I get to that. And then I received but I believe I believe it was council member. Um, or Vice Mayor Woodside at the time, I got the emails regarding Measure K and I thought, Finally. Someone who can see the forest and not just the tree. And I was, Intrigue. And I want to commend you because I know that was a tremendous bull to take by the horns. and write it out. And I also want to commend Vice Mayor Blaustein. and Council Member Sobieski for joining you in that effort. to make a majority of the vote. and watching down to the wire and how close the voting was It showed. that the majority counted in the vote as well because it Ha! So, my thoughts immediately on the whole issue and what you've done thus far, Mayor Woodside. Thank you so much. |
| 00:29:53.25 | Walfred Solorzano | may or Thank you so much. |
| 00:29:55.26 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:29:59.36 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:29:59.38 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. No further public speakers. |
| 00:29:59.68 | Unknown | What? Oh, me. |
| 00:30:05.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:30:05.69 | Steven Woodside | on. |
| 00:30:05.99 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:30:06.45 | Steven Woodside | or, |
| 00:30:06.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:30:06.99 | Amy Howard | And I'm going to pass it to your city manager. |
| 00:30:11.44 | Chris Zapata | Good morning. |
| 00:30:12.93 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:30:12.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:30:13.35 | Chris Zapata | Yes sir. I want to speak as loud as I can. I'm going to do something that's going back to the beginning. When I arrived in the hospital in June of 2021, I immersed myself in what I thought I needed to do to understand the workings of this community and this conference organization. And I came up with a theme at that plan with the fact of the basics. I don't think the government candidate stole that from But that's the basis to me, man. infrastructure. people in my image. And I believe that there's been some significant progress made. There's a lot more to do. So today I'm going to focus on finding And it's a macro approach to our finances. It's not one year, two years. It's what I did then was look 30 years back into 30 years, 40 years. And I'm not gonna do that for you today, but I'm going to give you a macro the state of the city's planning and things are. So as you start to build into the budget process from here and into the future, you and the community will have a good sense of where Sassolino lives. So it all begins with trust and transparency. And so every year the city council, the city organization is required by law to do an independent audit of our finances. And so can I get slideshow to the next slide, please? In 2324, we have a new auditor. independent of the city by the name of the Dow Insosids. And we changed from the old auditor who we had for a cycle of six years |
| 00:31:46.59 | Unknown | So, Is that an extra seat there? Yes. I'll get it. Do you have any other extra chairs? |
| 00:31:51.34 | Chris Zapata | And let me. |
| 00:31:51.61 | Walfred Solorzano | you. |
| 00:31:51.63 | Chris Zapata | you know, Thank you. |
| 00:31:51.65 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 00:31:51.68 | Chris Zapata | Oh, wow. |
| 00:31:51.97 | Unknown | Oh, okay. |
| 00:31:52.05 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 00:31:52.15 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:31:52.31 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:31:54.94 | Walfred Solorzano | No, we can't, no, no more. The fire department warned us that we're at the time. |
| 00:31:58.82 | Unknown | Sorry. and then, |
| 00:32:00.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:32:00.19 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 00:32:00.20 | Amy Howard | Bye. |
| 00:32:00.25 | Unknown | and then, with how you are. |
| 00:32:01.67 | Amy Howard | When you're in a fire station, you have to pay attention to that. |
| 00:32:05.27 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:32:05.45 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 00:32:05.47 | Unknown | Thank you. Sorry. Sorry. |
| 00:32:07.04 | Unknown | I have some pictures. |
| 00:32:08.51 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:32:08.86 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 00:32:09.01 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:32:09.11 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. I'm sorry, I have to go. |
| 00:32:14.53 | Chris Zapata | I'm used to disruption and Williamsburg cause. Why not? |
| 00:32:17.80 | Unknown | you |
| 00:32:17.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:32:19.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:32:22.09 | Chris Zapata | Take it anytime to be here. The cities are required to audit their budgets, their spending, their money every single year, and so we are new for them called the Dowian Associates, and they looked at all of our city funds last year and it came in and they gave us an audit. That audit resulted in no findings for the terrible weaknesses or the weaknesses, which was an improvement from the product It took a lot of work to do that. Certainly, I want to thank our prior finance director for working there on that. But we got it done. And so now we're into this year, And so on Tuesday night of The 17th we're going to present this year's audit for the year that we just finished in July or June of last year. So 2324 is basically a year and a half to two years away. We're finishing the audit from 2425 and then next year you'll get the audit to 2526. What the audit showed that was adopted and passed that was received last year was that the city is doing what it said it would do. We were tracking on revenues, our expenses were being managed, and that left what we call a general fund reserve of 30%. Then Thank you. 30% at the time was a number. It became a real number in the future because the council did something subsequent to that, which is adopt you Hey. form policy of 25%, which is the mission in the past practice of doing that anyways. At that time, there were additional unsigned funds that the city council was made aware of. You turn that money to an infrastructure investment, which was great. So I'm going to start, please. I'm back on the meeting. Thank you for my supplementation. So on the 17th, you will see this year's audit. |
| 00:34:19.61 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. |
| 00:34:23.25 | Chris Zapata | That's what you will want to see. And that will inform a lot of what we do coming into this budget process, as will this event. And then we'll bring it back to you if you have questions on 17th. We'll bring it back to you for final adoption on the 3rd of March. Let's go to the next slide, please. One of the new things that was back to the future as well as we reconstituted the finance committee. That finance committee is Mayor Woodside, Councilmember Sobieski, They're working on some important things. One of them is a 10 year model. |
| 00:34:55.28 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:34:55.38 | Chris Zapata | The council has asked for it for a period of time. That's in process. We have hired a consultant to work with us on that. The council approved the scope of work. The finance committee looked at it, and it involves NHA advisors as a consultant to prepare that and work on that. One of the things that I wrote in my budget message last year was, is that, you know, there's been a practice of the city taking funds from the parking, enterprise, not enterprise, but funds, the parking funds. and the Old City Hall Fund and augmenting the general fund to make sure that there was in fact resources for the city budget to provide services and fund projects. That conversation needs to be had in detail in terms of, you know, what does that look like in a way that makes sense to this council and the staff on a go-forward basis? In my mind, that money should be used as it's been used for the last 15 years, but there should be some kind of understanding that there are particular needs in the buildings at the M.O.K. or in the parking lots that we have by the or in the old city hall where Jim is located. And what's the appropriate amount of money to set aside? And for those costs, operating costs, and then after that, you should be able to spend it as you seem to have a year or a year. So you'll have that conversation and the first thing I will not. So, One of the things that we are trying to do in terms of the augmenting transparency is go back to the beginning again. OpenGov is a good tool. We took a hiatus from it during COVID. It's gonna go live again this next month in March. So that's a positive thing. And then we're taking to the Finance Committee two things that are really important. We have at the direction of the city council and the the work of prior counselors created a section 115 trust for the and post-employment benefit obligations. That money is sitting in an account right now, and I'll go through that. But there leads to be some direction on how to spend it for pension issues, how to spend it for OPEC issues, or how to invest it. And that's something the Finance Committee will take up on the 24th of February at 1030 AM. Can we talk a little bit more in detail about the second one? That's a federal law and governs how to save money for specific purposes related to pension and benefits. Sausalito, as I understood, was one of the first cities in the country to adopt this tool. And so when these tools adopted, it involved, you know, setting aside money. The city council set an ambitious goal. They set it up in 2015-16 and they started to fund it. So as it stands today, you know, it's a place I'm going to refer to, but but why you did it is really important to understand. pension costs are off the top. A city uses about 60% of this revenue in the general fund to pay for employees, Right, services, managed projects, but off the top, the pension costs are part of that budget. And so let me give you a scale that, you know, I see. I came to California in 2004, so I can tell you I'm familiar with this. 2002 in Sausalito, your pension costs were $418,000. In 2025, last year in July, we paid $3,475, 574. So that increase is a really significant challenge for city budgets. It's a result of enhanced benefits for employees like I didn't meet. But I will tell you that it's become something that really is something to keep your eye on. And in the South, in this case, you did. That's why you set up your section 115 trust so that you can start to fund that. Go to the next slide, please. I think when this became a statewide problem, the Public Employee Pension Reform Act of 2014, can be placed of. We see some relief, but it's out. And that would be really, really important to understand as you talk about how you invest this money, reduce this money. So right now, I'm in the trust fund, thanks to Carter City Council Administration and this current council, you have $4,353,000 in change. say. What would the green knowledge potentially be? outside of your reserve, outside of your understanding, that's sitting there. You have 2.2 million for post-employment benefits. Your goal at one time was to have $6 million in that thought money to deal with the pension spike that we're about to run into. And best laid plans are mice and men, |
| 00:39:53.41 | SPEAKER_00 | Yeah. |
| 00:39:53.43 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 00:39:53.51 | Alice Merrill | Right. |
| 00:39:53.92 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:39:58.22 | Chris Zapata | and women, the encoded And so we didn't get to six million, but you tried to augment it. And so you're at 4.3. The question is, where is your money and what is your money doing? So you chose to have it managed by what we call PARS. We were given direction last year to take that money out of PARS and put it into the CalPERS. We had some staffing changes and so we were able to do that. And maybe that's not a bad thing. And I'll tell you why, PARs and CalPERS management and 115 Trusts have basically two vehicles, conservative and aggressive. And Saskia has invested its money conservatively, so it hasn't made the gains it could have made, but it hasn't been susceptible to downturns as it might be if it was in an aggressive posture. So we haven't done that yet, so we're taking to the Finance Committee four or five different approaches and plans to use it to provide for more catering. in terms of your investment. Maybe it goes back into CalPERS as your directive, but maybe it goes to one of these so that you can maximize your returns or you can serve it. It's up to you. But we also will bring to you a smoothing approach for the next five years. What are you going to do with this $4.3 million? If you're going to take it all out in one suit, then we won't have that conversation. But if you're going to use it to smooth, which is what I would recommend, then you'll have it for the next five years to deal with the hump that you've paid to see. So that $3.5 million that I showed you in the car slide will go up to 3.9, 4.1. And you'll be able to smooth that out. And then you get to the point where the classic retirees, who are the expensive part of the benefit package, start to see losses. And then the temperate rate, which is governed in much more modest, starts to kick in and your pension problems shouldn't be as big as they are in the next five years after 2035, 2034, 2033, because pension benefits are not as enhanced now. And one of the things that you did this year on macro sensors you have what I call a 10-year process to transfer, consolidate your student utilities. I know the point and you all, I made the point in that it doesn't make sense to have half of the utility, which we do have. The collection side is in the South Carolina City, 10 inches is the treatment side. It's confusing to the residents, Two rate payer hearings, different bills. Who do I go to? So you pushed us and... Thank you, you pushed us. Actually, you shoved us. To make this happen. What did we do to do this? |
| 00:42:46.41 | Unknown | . |
| 00:42:52.10 | Chris Zapata | Well, there was a memorandum of understanding that had been worked on for five years. There was a special committee. Councilmember Hoppen was on the committee. Councilmember Blassey was on the committee. What's that? What's that? That's Mohawk, the committee that worked with me, a special group from the district, and we got to a point where we had to cut bait or fish And so, yeah. We spent $5.269 million of retired $5.26 million in bond debt. Staying alone and alone and alone. We did all that. And what did that do besides accommodating the goal and the priority that you said last year is getting started. They relieve the societal rate payers of 1.9 million dollars in future increased payments. $1.9 million by virtue of that. the Marin and South Central Sanitary District did what they said they had to do. They had told us that we will help this happen by providing a partnership approach and so Three points. one and then augmented it to $3.4 million to the city to make sure all of that financing did not impact the general. |
| 00:44:02.50 | Alice Merrill | it is. |
| 00:44:09.17 | Chris Zapata | So we'll get to that in another slide. But the bottom line is they can do it, we can do it. And as a result, we don't have a sewer utility anymore. which to me is really important. Many, many claims that our city attorney will tell you stem from our sewer airbags. So that liability will be minimized in the future because you won't have that. That's important and that will play into factors as it relates to your insurance costs. If you don't have that, just like you're on fire department, those play into the insurance costs because those tend to be high claimer rates. The one thing that you have to know about |
| 00:44:51.29 | Amy Howard | Thank you. I'm sure I have supplied by the Google 566 Wilson Avenue, 9304. |
| 00:44:56.76 | Unknown | one job. I think that bottom's up. Yeah. |
| 00:45:03.03 | Chris Zapata | I don't mind giving them right over there. |
| 00:45:04.23 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:45:04.27 | Melissa Blaustein | Now we know what that is. |
| 00:45:04.39 | Unknown | . |
| 00:45:05.38 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. I'm on a roll here, so let me get it quick. So every year to manage the sewer utility, there was in turn 25,000. |
| 00:45:08.62 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay. |
| 00:45:14.46 | Chris Zapata | the general fund, the Pat Glasgow's time, Fevin's time, other people's time, and that's gone. So that stream of revenue to the general fund is gone. But we don't have an operating budget in the sewer. We don't have the liability of that on a prospective basis. We still have it on a. whatever you can. But prospectively, you don't have to do with Next slide, please. One of the good things that I like to talk about is how a city is structured in terms of waste borrowers. And Sasha was basically done some strategic partners. community and services and facilities. And one of the things you did in 2016, we built this. What we're sitting in right now, you built and you borrowed money to do it. and we broke it into two different bond tranches. And so that 2006, 2001, measured. We have that on your voice right now. I mentioned the Suivans. They won't be a new box. They're gone. You still have Measure F, which is your parks, it's your participation approach, where you built MLK, Dunphy, Robin Sweeney, Southview, use that money to do all that. You still have that on your books, and you have that on your books. It's a 15-year note, and so it expires in 2031, so it'll be off your books. You have an annual commitment of about $120,000 to Virginia's Improvement District. It was worth a certain year by Adrian Britton. You're making that payment for the next three years at least. If you decide you can do it longer, that will be part of the assessment. And then one thing that's on here that I forgot about, but I remember now, is you have a private placement. |
| 00:46:53.77 | SPEAKER_00 | Right. |
| 00:46:54.04 | Unknown | you |
| 00:47:08.97 | Chris Zapata | for the purchase of the Bank of America building. And then you borrowed about $2 million to acquire that building, which is now the Saucyotl Center for the Arts. And so your payments there will run another 10 years. At this point, they're being managed by revenue from the tenant, and the Saucyotl Center for the Arts, and additional augmented by 2,000 in escalating money from the ATM rental. So there's a delta there, and it's $3,000 a year that we need to worry about. But I don't see it as a big concern. But that's some other debt you have on the book. And that's about it. So, some sort of position in terms of not having long term debt is going to overwhelm it so that it can address future needs that are going to be larger in nature. Amen. You have decided to take some of that money that was sitting there after you started the 2324 audit and invested in the community and infrastructure. That's $17.7 million. It was the biggest number of stocks that was invested. I believe a invested and you start to see that you've seen that in push you're seeing that now whether it's you know Dunphy Park you see the movement there |
| 00:48:26.24 | SPEAKER_00 | I've seen that. |
| 00:48:33.43 | Chris Zapata | You see streets getting paved. You see some things that are starting to deal slopes and slides in terms of commitments. And so all of that is in play. So your capital project investment is really necessary and you know I just said it's about time That time we started spending some money on Wilkap and Winsuit. I can tell you our streets, we love working. So some of our buildings, but you started on that process. And this is what it looks like. No. To augment safety and wildfire protection, you have a number of projects. One of them is the special fire station agreement that you just signed up on. And you're committed to improving and reactivating to augment this station. And you know, we're into phase one of that as I call it and that's to get a strike team in there. Phase three is actually having a full on fire system there. But that's a question for another day. It isn't really the city's question. It's the community's question. It's the fire district's question as to whether they want to fund 24-7 fire and all the expensive equipment that goes with it. um park i mentioned that's moving uh parking lot one you have a listing set on thursday night it'll be in front of you expensive equipment that goes with it. London Park, I mentioned, that's moving. Parking lot one, you had a listing set on Thursday night. It'll be in front of you in March. We'll talk about next steps on that. You know, parks on Ridgeway that have been there since I've been there, or played to be worked on Edwards Avenue, those slopes which chronifies this community and rightfully so. When you have a house like down the hill, when you create a landslide task force and you said, we need to do something about this. So it's starting to happen now, and that's because you put money into your capital building program. People have mentioned our water access, well, the grant was received, the technical work is going on. We're trying to do some work to make sure that's an area to future uses of that area, but it's something that's going on. And obviously becoming a smarter city, investing in climate tech, one $9 million. And then you're talking about housing. And when you talk about housing, what are the impacts? And what are the impacts of the corporation yard, the housing? You gotta think about where that yard is, but we started thinking about that. You say, Kevin and his team are working on the version of the canary downstairs so we can take people off corners and out of the courtyard and have space for community. Even in this way of modern work, there is no space for the plant. So, gate five. That's something really important to this community There are efforts going on there. All of that's part of our capital project. The way that happens is not by you saying do it, and you saying great. people doing the work. And so you did the work by saying, well, how do you get this done with people you have? You couldn't so two years ago you authorized two project managers and last year you authorized two middle contract budget managers to get this 70, 70 lower towards 70. Okay, the other thing is I want to talk about your investments. cities tend to keep their money in places secure without your damages. And it doesn't generate much to be able to think. |
| 00:52:02.99 | Chris Zapata | The yield we received from investments three years ago through the local agency investment fund which is the college fund fund, the city's use was 102%. So you direct us to become a little more aggressive with the values that you have to work on find them more secure. and higher yields. And we did that with Baker Marine. And so now the money you have in the bank is generating 4% right now, to much better than 2% that used to be or less. So you're doing that now and it is secure. We do have to time our uses of it. We know that we have cash for it. We have to have money for it. But we also know that we have money sitting there that we want to put to work for us. And that's what we've done through that policy direction. Okay, I'm almost done. So hang it out. Next slide, please. So we have, work that we do on an annual basis and that's look at our budgets. No care. See where we're tracking. What was projecting? What we need to adjust what we need to pay attention to. So in our mid-year budget, which is July 1st, through December 31st, six months worth of data. We worked with our department as a finance director, engineering and software, worked with all the departments, kind of get a sense of what we're spending, what we're spending, et cetera. And there's good news. The good news is our revenues have been projected, our travel, We're very close to them. And that's because I've heard and I've seen and I listen to people that have businesses and they're saying it's not been as strong as it's been. I'm concerned about the future, et cetera. And that concerns me because that's where our movie comes from, from sales tax, hotels, obviously, property tax, other industries. But our revenues are tracking. That's good news. |
| 00:54:05.31 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:54:05.92 | Chris Zapata | And then we looked at our expenses and our expenses are not tracking. So 74 is correct. And you do what city managers and finance directors do, which is make sure that at the end of this Yeah. with someone doesn't come here and say, I just showed that you are in the ramp. So this is the time now we do that work. And in my mind, I've always said this and I described to it as city manager. If I can't fix a 5% problem, then I'm not a city manager. So I'm not concerned about a 3.9% problem. Next slide please. That gap there on $23 million, $22 million, 4% gap, that's feasible, easy. As a matter of fact, when I found out about what it looked like, we started working on this with our employees. to understand what I'll call, where are the pennies, middle, diamonds, and dollars? And I started with the dollars, where are the dollars? And I believe there's the dollars that have come. Take that to zero in the next three months. And one of them is, we obviously retired a bunch of debt and sewer fund. We used some general funds to make that happen. And that happened June of 2024. |
| 00:55:04.68 | Unknown | that, |
| 00:55:04.90 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 00:55:04.95 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:55:22.04 | Chris Zapata | In August of 20.5 you left 3.4 million dollars and in there the top got a check I think it's important to be acknowledged. Thank you. And so my question is, My question to the finance staff was What was the amount we True that from the general fund. Because we use general fund money to pay that debt. but we even got money that's subsequent lucky year. And so that money to me is found money. How much is it? So we're working through that right now. We'll be able to bring that to you and that will and my mind solved a lot of this problem. So I'm not concerned about people calling that percent. And then in the interim, what I'll do is I'll do what I've always done, which is I'll ask our team to help. So departments, and let me speak about it a little bit. where can you find some revenues to help us with this so that we don't go to the city council in August with them. Actually, what I said, we're in great. that's totally right. Next slide, let me see. So as we started to build our budget for next year, Starting here, you know, you start looking at our sales tax, hotel tax, property tax, |
| 00:56:28.58 | Unknown | You know? |
| 00:56:29.58 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:56:34.34 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:56:36.39 | Chris Zapata | Yeah. We start looking at some of the things that are like alligators in the swamp that could buy us, there are two of them, rising insurance costs. You know that insurance is going on the box this day because everybody saw something you know. |
| 00:56:48.32 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 00:56:49.00 | Chris Zapata | until the bills are going up slightly. And we have to look at our long term lease revenue. We get 800,000 beer from USA, France, We get $300,000 a year from Lee Brothers School. So how secure is that $1.1 million? Because you've got to make debt or stipulation payments in the next five years using that, not to general money. So those payments are about $640,000 a year. So you've got to be mindful of that. And then obviously we're into a labor environment where we are. that I have to have what financial impacts of that might be. Should my slide. So this is where we are today. |
| 00:57:30.65 | Unknown | So |
| 00:57:30.87 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. truly at the start. You can see that there are some steps that have to be taken. One of the new steps I want to point out is since you reconstituted the finance committee, you know, we're going to bring the department budgets to the finance committee in advancing the council so they can vet them and provide insight and put them in over into the council. You'll see that two times at a council level, two times at a finance committee level. So apologies to the real side and council members. So yes, we're going to see it in four times. So a lot of work on the budget and then adoption in June. We'll go on the web. And so that's the big city finance presentation that I wanted to have informed. And in the packet, there are significant documents that I think I'm there knowing besides finances And it's. What did you do last year? We gave that report in December. What's in the hopper now? They never form less meaning. And so that should help you as the council start to think about what we're going to do. And as we kick off the budget process, there's one other factor. Is during the last year, the 2020-26 strategic plan that you did in 2011. And that's another factor. So with that, I'll be with questions, but I need my time plan. and we're going to work with them. |
| 00:58:59.19 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:58:59.58 | Chris Zapata | What do you want to do with the idea? |
| 00:59:00.96 | Unknown | and vote for your attention. |
| 00:59:02.45 | Amy Howard | Well, Mr. Mayor, I would ask you if you want to know if there's questions from your colleagues, the city manager, if you wanted to ask any questions, you know, we can do that. |
| 00:59:14.65 | Steven Woodside | It could be that. Yeah. Since you and I haven't worked together like this before, if you want to see everyone. |
| 00:59:15.63 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 00:59:22.02 | Amy Howard | That's a good point. |
| 00:59:23.63 | Steven Woodside | people raise their hand. Um, |
| 00:59:24.25 | Amy Howard | Right. Love that. |
| 00:59:26.43 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. from the guys here. |
| 00:59:27.78 | Amy Howard | That's a great idea, but that is a bit of a, as you say, a little awkward for you guys who can't see each other's faces. If you all will affirm that I get to call on you and help facilitate this, we'll begin. If anyone has a question, please let me know. Councilmember Hoffman. |
| 00:59:45.63 | Jill Hoffman | Councilmember Hockman. Yeah. |
| 00:59:46.95 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 00:59:47.40 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 00:59:47.49 | Amy Howard | I think you said there was a finance committee meeting coming up every week before. Thanks, and I just noticed that's not very young. I was actually the city manager, not you. Okay, I love Pat. |
| 00:59:53.11 | Carolyn Revell | And I think, is that, you know, the |
| 00:59:57.34 | Carolyn Revell | I love you. |
| 00:59:57.51 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you, Kalen. from Councilmember Dox, but that was, I looked on the website. So that's February 24th at Okay. |
| 01:00:11.79 | Chris Zapata | 38th. |
| 01:00:12.65 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 01:00:12.93 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 01:00:13.68 | Jill Hoffman | different terms. And at some point that will be on the city website and that's going to be, people are going to be able to put in the numbers as well. Absolutely. Okay, thanks so much. I'm sorry, I keep losing a clip. |
| 01:00:27.84 | Amy Howard | Any other questions? No, okay, Mr. Mayor. |
| 01:00:33.10 | Steven Woodside | to the city manager, the event planning, . And my question to you is You came on in 2021. And we've been subdued by the only one of them us who actually worked on it. Don't cry. I think you're on sabbatical from Riley. Yes. Right. Yeah. |
| 01:00:58.82 | Unknown | with the |
| 01:01:00.74 | Steven Woodside | And then, Borussia. |
| 01:01:01.67 | Unknown | Right. What should we call the activity on top of the monitor? |
| 01:01:04.01 | Steven Woodside | you know, |
| 01:01:04.35 | Unknown | It's right off. Nothing. Yeah. |
| 01:01:06.29 | Steven Woodside | I don't know. question for the city manager in the |
| 01:01:09.72 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:01:12.25 | Steven Woodside | So here you have a plan. got COVID. And how helpful to you the final step? Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:01:22.34 | Chris Zapata | Extremely. |
| 01:01:23.15 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:01:23.72 | Chris Zapata | And first of all, I had a SWAT, strength, weakness, opportunity, and breadth analysis, which I do everywhere I go. And so Cindy had done that. And I did my own before I was asked to see where there was alignment. It was pretty close. So that was just really helpful. To see the thinking that involved 155 fasts, for city staff to do my deliver. I broke that into which department Thank you. And I saw a lot of it in public works. So that informed my new church is really important. |
| 01:02:03.95 | Adrian Brinton | Thank you. |
| 01:02:04.85 | Chris Zapata | And then, I truly believe that group things and putting it in writing. There were some deadlines attached to it. So when the pandemic hit, some of those deadlines and schedules that were soon weren't validated ones, I saw that. But I also know that if you are trying to movement organizations forward, So planning, planning, setting So I thought it was a well done exercise. There's a group called Management Partners to assist you with it. I asked the people that were involved that were still here. And if you can tell you that changed, there's one, seven gallons, it's still here, zero. and told me that the city staff did work on it. You know, I talked to Ben and Cox about it, told me that they worked on it very hard and came together on Saturday. But it's a serious undertaking, it's an important undertaking. And if you don't do it, I think it can probably be great. |
| 01:03:06.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:03:07.36 | Amy Howard | Any other questions? Vice Mayor Blosky? I thought an emphasis here on transparency and some of us might not be as familiar with OpenGov and the efforts to subtract OpenGov. Could you talk a little bit about that and how the community will access it and also just what else we're doing to increase engagement and transparency around the budget? |
| 01:03:28.55 | Chris Zapata | Let me introduce our financial company, Angelina Butler, who's here in the audience with us. And she's the one that jumped on that when she was hired to institute that. So she can tell you what that is and what's going to be. |
| 01:03:43.92 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 01:03:44.02 | Angeline Loeffler | Good morning. Thank you. Yes. Good morning, everyone. Okay, so open-up is basically working back in a little bit |
| 01:03:49.76 | Amy Howard | Thank you. bit more in the hands. than what we have in the past so it's going to develop a lot of the eventual dashboard for the public's information that we're going to be providing in a sense and |
| 01:04:04.04 | Angeline Loeffler | for you. There's going to be various levels of the dashboard that we're going to be designing for the specific to for the audiences. So council member will have the several dashboards for the function. |
| 01:04:17.03 | Carolyn Revell | that the information that you're interested in to see versus what the public will be seeing. |
| 01:04:23.04 | Angeline Loeffler | it will be all coming from, inaugurated directly with our DIA planning system, Springbrook. So it will be feeding the information |
| 01:04:30.03 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 01:04:30.04 | Angeline Loeffler | Thank you. |
| 01:04:30.28 | Amy Howard | automatically on the regular basis on that one. It is going to be a lot more visual tools that it's going to be coming back. |
| 01:04:39.12 | Angeline Loeffler | Thank you. |
| 01:04:39.83 | Amy Howard | And the previous, they opened up their transparenting tools |
| 01:04:43.96 | Angeline Loeffler | and then, |
| 01:04:44.03 | Carolyn Revell | family. |
| 01:04:44.82 | Angeline Loeffler | Thank you. |
| 01:04:44.91 | Carolyn Revell | at the same week. |
| 01:04:45.97 | Angeline Loeffler | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:04:47.27 | Carolyn Revell | That's how I clarifies the source. |
| 01:04:50.44 | Amy Howard | Councilmember Hoffman. |
| 01:04:51.96 | Carolyn Revell | We'll be right back. |
| 01:04:52.03 | Amy Howard | Thanks. Just to follow up on that, I used to love the Open Go. It was popular. What's the timeline on? |
| 01:04:57.03 | Jill Hoffman | that, they're finishing that. |
| 01:04:58.19 | Angeline Loeffler | you |
| 01:04:58.21 | Amy Howard | We're actually in the process of doing the integrations with the Spring Group. We're scheduled to go live on March 1st. Okay. So hopefully everything goes well with the mapping with the Spring Group. We can go live on March 1st. And then as of right now, we're right on schedule. We're fully populated? Yes. With all the information current? Correct. Do we have a thought that we're going to do? you know, a walkthrough or, you know, how to access |
| 01:05:27.97 | Jill Hoffman | just not like a tutorial, how people can go through and do that, maybe just a video or something like how people can have it. |
| 01:05:36.63 | Chris Zapata | That's a very good idea. You probably put something together with the OX, part of it with the green-induced cloud-breaking, certainly the council, and maybe some of the things that are informative, and I'm sure it's the better. |
| 01:05:50.96 | Amy Howard | Right, yeah, Mr. Mayor. |
| 01:05:52.02 | Chris Zapata | and |
| 01:05:52.27 | Steven Woodside | um, Maybe an oversimplification, but as a practical matter, if let's say, remember the public had a question, how much money are we spending on a certain project A certain part. How much are we spending on law enforcement? How much are we spending on the emergency or are you be able to find that information. |
| 01:06:14.68 | Amy Howard | customize it in full, the customizations, the information that we need, everything we report them on in Springbrook, we can actually populate them in a manner that is needed to expand for the public. Thank you very much. |
| 01:06:27.97 | Steven Woodside | that's not going to be a |
| 01:06:28.03 | Amy Howard | Yes, thank you. |
| 01:06:30.14 | Steven Woodside | Bye. |
| 01:06:30.16 | Jill Hoffman | That's a good one. |
| 01:06:33.47 | Amy Howard | Okay. Any other questions from the council. A lot of excitement about OpenGov. We have it. It can be addictive. Good for the public. All right. Oh, yeah. Vice Mayor. One more, because I talked a lot about the Section 115 trust and our planning, but then also our decisions about what we would or would move to CalPERS. I know we as a council have to step into this. There are so many members of the public here. Could you just talk a little bit about the trending or alpers investments like the expectations as we've discussed for example there was a very good year two years ago but it's likely that the investment references significantly decreased so we'll see an increase in those pension costs |
| 01:07:19.53 | Chris Zapata | Thank you for the question. Thank you for the information. |
| 01:07:27.80 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 01:07:32.01 | Chris Zapata | So one of the drivers of changing So dissatisfaction by the city is to, you know, the management return of it and the cost. I don't think they're going to try to see this. So think of 70,000 a year and the Calipari's it took the 30,000, part of it took 40,000 more. And then the results are the average difference of why are we spending money? As far as it's done, is taking this in a direction and invest not in aggressive, And this year, they're doing 10.78% is what they're going to be doing. Um, Three years ago, they did nine, and we were having last year's time, the 10-year average is 4.9%. And that's what the energy is from the forest. When we go to the Finance Committee on the 24th, what you will see is had you put it in an aggressive account, what you would have done, If you put it in. different account in terms of different management, what we would pay it would cost you. So the council direction to move out of our business right To move into CalPERS and You know, if we don't get it, that's that's what we're going to make a recognition so that we can tailor it more aggressively than I'll put one together in five different places to invest money with two other firms. But we are going to be able to go through all of that and what we could have would have should have, no scenarios, public and seeing how this money has been working for you or not working for you. But that's what we have now with ours. But we also know that We have a question. objection scenario that we want to speak about too and how we want to use money to address that. But there's also been concern and question at the Finance Committee about the security of this money in terms of it's 4 million today with the market, you know, volatility, would it be 3 million, you know, tomorrow? And the answer from our finance consultants is no. It's not likely to see such a stream because you haven't invested conservatively. Well, that's the good side there. If you're making returns, which you don't have the serious threat, I was concerned about two months ago, but you need to do something with it. |
| 01:10:07.56 | Amy Howard | Thank you. Any further questions? Okay. With that, If we could move to my slides. I don't know for sure. But so what we're gonna talk about next |
| 01:10:21.77 | Jill Hoffman | Bye. |
| 01:10:24.81 | Amy Howard | We're going to start the process |
| 01:10:26.61 | Jill Hoffman | there were things Thank you. |
| 01:10:27.81 | Amy Howard | Oh, there's a break. I'm sorry. I've got to keep going. I get so excited. Mr. Mayor, would you like to take a question? |
| 01:10:34.42 | Steven Woodside | I think it's great. |
| 01:10:37.23 | Amy Howard | So what would it be? How many minutes? What is it? |
| 01:10:40.55 | Steven Woodside | Bridge. Roger. How about this? Let's sit here and then go on talk during the break. |
| 01:10:53.93 | Unknown | All right. |
| 01:10:54.66 | Alice Merrill | and I think that's a good thing. Thank you. |
| 01:10:55.48 | Steven Woodside | I know. |
| 01:10:55.50 | Alice Merrill | I'm not sure. |
| 01:10:55.70 | Unknown | I don't know. |
| 01:10:55.97 | Alice Merrill | or different. |
| 01:10:58.93 | Unknown | I am. |
| 01:11:00.09 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 01:11:00.16 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 01:11:00.23 | Alice Merrill | All right. |
| 01:11:00.73 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:11:00.90 | Alice Merrill | We're good to go. |
| 01:11:01.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:11:02.59 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 01:11:02.60 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:11:02.82 | Alice Merrill | Let's go. Yeah. |
| 01:11:03.58 | Unknown | that. |
| 01:11:03.65 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 01:11:03.70 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:11:06.01 | Amy Howard | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:11:06.89 | Unknown | Bye. broad. |
| 01:11:10.50 | Amy Howard | Everybody's trying to get camera angles. All right. |
| 01:11:12.76 | Unknown | I'm not. Thank you. |
| 01:11:14.42 | Amy Howard | Okay, so if we can go to my slide, the energy of strategic discussion, I think is where we're going to go. So, Uh, We are, it's like the one, two, three, four, fifth slide. So these are my slides. So you can, if there's a typo, it is not your staff. They are, it's all on me. |
| 01:11:35.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:11:38.36 | Amy Howard | So, Your city manager mentioned the strategic plan. And it's 2020 to 2020. and we are here in 2026. We not have these thoughts. This is on me. I was working on them and I can get them to you, but yeah. um, So I needed you to pressure me. So, um, So we are not doing a strategic plan today. We, Just want to assure everybody. I think it's a good opportunity to kind of review a few of the high level points. Oh, I'm sorry, Kelsey. |
| 01:12:15.69 | Unknown | No, I understand. |
| 01:12:16.40 | Amy Howard | Okay, cool. review a few of the high level concepts in a strategic plan and then to affirm or not that you want to enter into a process that will begin at some point and when you want to enter into the process. Um, There's a lot of big stuff already that you have planned. There's things that you want to talk about. and your future agenda items. So we want to kind of help you get to a point where you're thinking strategically, beyond what you're having to do this year. Okay. We're going to talk about mission, vision, and values today. So next slide, please. |
| 01:12:54.57 | Unknown | for it. |
| 01:12:55.73 | Amy Howard | So This is your current mission. The city of Sausalito serves those who live, work, and visit in the city by fostering new opportunities to protect and improve the quality of life in our unique waterfront community. So, We don't necessarily have to work, Ms. Beth. Um, you know, One concept would be Is this the right mission for you guys? As it says in your document, A mission is a statement of the purpose of the organization. The organization is the entire city, not just to be counsel, And it's also the city staff. This is the organization and it's serving the community. So saying this is the purpose, this is the mission of our City. This is what our organization is doing. So is there anything missing from this statement? that you feel you want to talk about. And again, we wouldn't necessarily wordsmith it today, unless it's simple to do, although, I have spent five hours doing that in public. It's not that much fun. But if you have something that you really want to talk about that we put this in here, And when you do your strategic plan process, then you can really start to Narrow it down, but we may be able to get through today and did you have something that you wanted to I thought I'd stop |
| 01:14:25.98 | Unknown | Yeah, it's funny you ask that because |
| 01:14:28.02 | Chris Zapata | This, what I was reading, this really caught my attention. I don't know if you're inviting us actually to talk about that. |
| 01:14:34.10 | Amy Howard | I am inviting you. |
| 01:14:36.43 | Chris Zapata | Well, if you already, I felt when I read this, I was surprised because I thought a lot of districts in the front was on the right, I take the nail on the head, but I actually thought the mission statement was really |
| 01:14:41.64 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 01:14:45.24 | Chris Zapata | What was we? |
| 01:14:45.37 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 01:14:45.52 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 01:14:45.66 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 01:14:45.79 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:14:46.55 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
| 01:14:46.93 | Chris Zapata | It's not very specific in what way do we serve? Do we serve ice cream? Do we serve lasagna? |
| 01:14:52.02 | Joan Cox | to |
| 01:14:53.40 | Chris Zapata | No, the city of Los Salinos, I think we all, well, it's up to debate, but we provide common or basic city services. To my mind, the mission of the city government of Sausalito is to provide excellent quality city services and public infrastructure. And perhaps you could add in a manner reflective of the community values to residents and visitors. |
| 01:15:18.75 | Amy Howard | watch this, we're gonna get this |
| 01:15:20.25 | Chris Zapata | and businesses. So to my mind, those are the big bites. City services are police in all the departments. I felt permission was Well, I won't agree with myself. That's my feedback. But again, I spent like an hour actually going over and over different missions, and the one I just articulated came out of that hour exercise. So we could definitely, many of my companies and working with companies, this truly is, |
| 01:15:34.75 | Unknown | So I spent |
| 01:15:43.32 | Unknown | Now, No. |
| 01:15:47.99 | Chris Zapata | and multiple hour, maybe multiple day exercise, because this really is the top of the pyramid. And in many cases, falling from it. So I don't want to give it short shrift, but |
| 01:15:56.11 | Unknown | you |
| 01:15:56.13 | Amy Howard | But I- |
| 01:15:56.59 | Chris Zapata | I just quoted as the Alperom Bica for an hour. work on. |
| 01:16:01.21 | Amy Howard | Right, and I appreciate that it can be multi-day, you know, whatever, but I think it's a place to stay in the case. |
| 01:16:07.22 | Chris Zapata | Let's read it for you to write it on the board. It's to provide excellent quality Thank you. City services. |
| 01:16:21.58 | Unknown | you |
| 01:16:21.69 | Chris Zapata | and public infrastructure. |
| 01:16:27.64 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:16:28.07 | Chris Zapata | in a manner reflective of our community values |
| 01:16:28.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:16:34.11 | Amy Howard | in a manner reflected, |
| 01:16:35.63 | Chris Zapata | We have our community values. |
| 01:16:40.90 | Amy Howard | OK. |
| 01:16:41.47 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:16:41.49 | Chris Zapata | to resume. |
| 01:16:41.98 | Unknown | visitors and businesses of Sasko Hill. |
| 01:16:44.91 | Amy Howard | Do you recognize what it says? residents, visitors, and businesses of South Colorado. Okay, and again, if we, That's... We will make sure this is That's our notice. capture not just here. that. Okay. I have to tie my shoes so I don't fall. Um, Yeah, so one thing you're doing is you're qualifying the service that you're going to provide, right? and Pardon me while I tie my shoe, because all of you. Hopefully we don't fall out. |
| 01:17:19.58 | Steven Woodside | Or she doesn't want you to trip. |
| 01:17:21.16 | Amy Howard | Yeah, and basics for these services, right? Because at the end of the day, It's people need public safety. You know, they need the streets they need. It's the basic city services. but excellent service, refitting the values of the community values of Sausalito. So that's an interesting, Yes, Joan. May I call you all by your first name? Yes, ma'am. So Jones and Melissa. |
| 01:17:45.36 | Melissa Blaustein | I don't know. |
| 01:17:47.39 | Amy Howard | If I got that wrong, I apologize. So I think that when it was initially drafted, the word serves was intended to be very large and broad. And because when you say that we provide basic seating services and infrastructures, Provide a whole lot more than basic I certainly wouldn't want to use basic as we provide excellent. City services well interest for quality. Yeah, this was actually my words. Those were not those. |
| 01:18:15.89 | Unknown | Stretch that out. Yes. Okay. Provide excellent quality. Okay. |
| 01:18:16.66 | Amy Howard | Yes, okay. Yeah, I'm going to get, but again, I just, I can find it to, you know, a city services and infrastructure because there's other, I would like to think of a more broad way to kind of. |
| 01:18:21.59 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:18:22.13 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 01:18:31.60 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 01:18:31.94 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. What city service you're referring to, |
| 01:18:31.97 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 01:18:36.00 | Joan Cox | Uh, uh, Blue sky, you know, planning, like blue sky strategy. So that's what the council brings, not just the city services. It's, you know, it's our job to plan and think big |
| 01:18:53.40 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 01:18:54.18 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 01:18:54.19 | Amy Howard | for the future and think outside the box. Well, if you just had, and I know Melissa, if you had excellent quality city services, um, And then, yeah. |
| 01:19:04.91 | Chris Zapata | just my response to Jones that don't complete the how or the what. The goal is the service services. achieving that means to drills for oil. That's a hot. |
| 01:19:15.32 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 01:19:16.27 | Chris Zapata | Uh... |
| 01:19:16.54 | Joan Cox | City services just sounds pedantic to me. Those two big, big, Huge, big, And again, we're not here today to work with that. |
| 01:19:25.97 | Amy Howard | That's just was my initial. kind of reaction. Okay. So my initial reaction to the beginning mission statement was very similar to Ian's, which is this is a very kind of not necessarily effective of the work we've been doing mission statement. But when I look deeper, my concern is about that it's grounded in our values. And then if you go to the page 27 in the strategic plan of our values, I don't. |
| 01:19:30.81 | Melissa Blaustein | Right. |
| 01:19:50.91 | Amy Howard | They that informed risk taking is one of our city values. Yeah. |
| 01:19:54.89 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 01:19:56.66 | Amy Howard | I just think there's things in here like We have one that says teamwork and then one that says creating an environment where people excel to their full potential. I just feel like our values are sort of the basis of how we're making these They should be grounded in how we're visioning for going forward. And if we're going to talk about the mission statement, we should also talk about some of our values. Yeah. And I was going to work down mission, mission values, although you bring up an excellent point. And again, I don't live here and I don't serve you, but I was struck by the same thing. |
| 01:20:15.70 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 01:20:26.53 | Amy Howard | My husband and I spoke for several hours about this discussion. Yeah, and innovation was one of our values, but I really don't feel like it is. Okay. All right. So I'm going to suggest And let's keep it forward thinking. you know, so that we're not maybe judgmental of what's in there. Yeah. Just like, let's go forward. |
| 01:20:49.08 | Steven Woodside | So, even years ago, that was the mission. People bought into it at the time. And 250 years ago, was blind liberty in pursuit of happiness. So think about it, your broad concepts. the mission is never going to be easy for lawyers like UMS or people who need a business plan and say, what do you make of the business? We'd like more precision, right? It's hard to do. My comment is, This is so important. All right. Start with a large and work through it. Big process. I'm all for having a strategic planning process. I think Very hard to start it right now, given one on our plate with short term, but I think This confession, my reaction was that the other one was somewhat ambiguous. |
| 01:21:46.35 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:21:46.89 | Steven Woodside | Okay, we all have different reactions to words. We're probably never gonna have something as inspirational as the declaration. |
| 01:21:55.03 | Amy Howard | Oh, that's our aim. I'm the wrong person. But yeah, no, I agree. I think what I'm hearing you say is And look at all you achieved in the past several years, even with COVID. new city manager, he said it was helpful. So like a plan is helpful, but the mission and vision and values Should be well here to question should the mission should the values be reflective of the organization which is city staff So city staff needs to provide services for these folks Right? And you are in service of that as well. But are the values the value of the organization and how they achieve those things? Or are the values the values of the city residents of the residents. And can there be a book? So that's actually my husband and I literally argued about this the other night because I believe it should be the values of the community And he said, well, how do you know that the five of them even have the same values, right? And I don't think, I certainly know the five of them don't agree on everything, but maybe there are the values, right? They do have values that align because they're representing all of you. Right? So, Why don't we put a bit of a pin in the mission because I think what I'm hearing You believe that the city should provide excellent, superior, outstanding, innovative services for the public in a manner reflective This is a good kind of starting place a little bit. I think it's better, you know, it's a starting point. I took a picture of it. Hopefully staff, is there somebody from staff who could maybe take notes? on this as well. I don't travel with somebody like that, Let's think about Here's a difference. tell my friends, And I know everybody just pronounces, but a city or government, but I'm going to use the word city, You provide services and programs. That's your... mission. Right? So if you run a company, Your purpose is to provide value for the stockholders, right? So it's profit. That's your mission, our profit for the stockholder. But your mission is about programs and services that fit your community. Right, yes, let me push back on that for a second. It's not necessarily. |
| 01:24:24.64 | Unknown | Thank you. different. Those two things. |
| 01:24:27.04 | Jill Hoffman | just articulated aren't mutually exclusive. We provide value to the people of Sausalito. And whether that's profits or a business or it's values, |
| 01:24:39.03 | Amy Howard | the people of Sausalito, it's still value. So when I was thinking about this this morning, and I was thinking about, you know, our strategic plan, and, you know, how we used to do that in the past, and we used to sit around, and, you know, I've been on, this is my 12 year on the council, and how you used to sort of sit down and use strategic plans in the past and how we want to do what we want to do going forward, right? If we want to be a forward leaning, innovative city going forward, What does that mean? What's off the way out? And how do we evolve going into the future? And how are we evolving as an organization, right? Do we keep doing things the way we've done things in the past? Or are we evolving into a quick |
| 01:25:33.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:25:34.23 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 01:25:34.32 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:25:34.74 | Amy Howard | know an organization that can do a quick pivot can we see and look how things aren't working and can we evolve and move past you know and and you know evolve and how do we do that right so to Ian's point |
| 01:25:49.15 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:25:54.62 | Amy Howard | you know, does this mission statement still serve us? I don't know. So that's maybe this, I don't disagree, put a pin in it and let's all think about it and how do we want to, take these comments and really think about it and how do we address these? Thank you. I don't know. |
| 01:26:17.03 | Jill Hoffman | if we're ready to come up with something today. But value, I think, is value. Whether it's return on investment, you know, is that money, but is that, |
| 01:26:27.96 | Amy Howard | is that value to the people of Sausalito and delivery of services, however that may be, and its responsiveness from the staff to residents. |
| 01:26:37.38 | SPEAKER_00 | Right. |
| 01:26:40.01 | Amy Howard | I almost caught you in seeing them. Thank you. If I could clarify something or with the value or with the, is the organization evolving Let's say Here's where you would talk about value. Let's say you wanted The city of Sausalito, Uh, says that every phone call is returned in an hour or for making this up. Or in the planning department, permits are approved in a 30-day meeting, right? Like that would be a goal, let's say. Because that would be a goal if the mission was to provide excellent expedited Service. Right? So you see that's the mission. Then you've got a goal that says, Community Development Department's going to approve permits 30 days and tactically you'd have to have higher three or planners in order to do that Thank you. |
| 01:27:34.28 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 01:27:34.91 | Amy Howard | So, So understanding that, at least that's I could be wrong. But understanding that sense of, well, then you'd have to allow budgetary dollars for that. And that would be a change and blah, blah, blah. So that's kind of how I fit. Mr. Mayor. |
| 01:27:49.05 | Steven Woodside | Well, I think you're what you're helping us understand. done these things before as many a really good strategic plan goes through several steps and you get down to the tactical spot what an organization without having gone through that often misses they start with the idea the tactic first right and it's I take your side. I could join your team in a party with your husband. I think we are part of the government's part. The staff. with the provider part of many of the service And it's one big community. Different roles to play. And I think we're We're defining, if you will, the mission of the city government in relation to the um, values. That's how I see it. But this is the kind of discussion we need to have so that we don't miss the mark and go through a budget process, et cetera, that deals with, I like this idea better than that, without having it in a context that we've already understood. |
| 01:28:51.70 | Unknown | Right. |
| 01:29:03.11 | Steven Woodside | that reflects the |
| 01:29:04.55 | Amy Howard | Right. And it is sort of a kickoff to the budget. And for the public, this is a dialogue amongst us, and there will be public comment at the end, just to keep it so that we could maybe move through the process here. |
| 01:29:04.66 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:29:16.71 | Amy Howard | So, And I will, I can set, I don't have to do a strategic plan, but I will capture the notes, that's why I'm taking pictures to you all and not just like, for on Instagram. you |
| 01:29:28.63 | Angeline Loeffler | Bye. |
| 01:29:28.90 | Amy Howard | Right. So I will capture this and ask the question that you could ask yourself because Clearly your mission How are you? that could drive the rest of it, right? And you are coming up on a better process. So is there anything else about mission? Again, you don't have to agree on it right now. We're not wordsmithing it. You think that you do care about your community values? I think I hear that. I think I hear that there's, you know, community values. I think I hear excellence. quality, you want it to be good quality, right? Um, So I'm going to erase this. And also this is important. Our art does this too. But you have resident visitors and business right because It's not just the folks who live here. I mean, if you're trying to do business here, you're contributing and you need to be thought of too. I'm gonna, Well, we depend on businesses for a good part of our revenues. |
| 01:30:23.18 | SPEAKER_00 | Wow. |
| 01:30:27.17 | Amy Howard | That's right. And bionic relationship. And businesses, I'm guessing in my community, |
| 01:30:27.59 | SPEAKER_00 | I don't know. |
| 01:30:27.79 | Joan Cox | that's my Thank you. |
| 01:30:32.72 | Amy Howard | which is slightly larger, but it's still sort of a tourist. A lot of visitors come to Manhattan Beach as well. 60% of the downtown business revenue comes from visitors. So if we don't pay attention to that, then our businesses start to suffer. So that, and I don't know what yours is here. |
| 01:30:53.44 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:30:53.46 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:30:53.61 | Steven Woodside | I'm not sure. |
| 01:30:55.01 | Amy Howard | How about that? Mr. Mayor, did you have something else? |
| 01:30:56.26 | Steven Woodside | Mr. before I break. I just want to say the one thing about these I'm trying to get I like is that you were to work here. So. |
| 01:31:07.06 | Amy Howard | Oh, work, yeah. |
| 01:31:08.21 | Steven Woodside | We've got residents, we've got visitors, we have people who work |
| 01:31:11.60 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 01:31:11.61 | Amy Howard | Yes. |
| 01:31:11.97 | Joan Cox | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:31:12.26 | Steven Woodside | They're part of the community. Some of those people spend more time working than they spend where they are. |
| 01:31:20.71 | Amy Howard | Okay. |
| 01:31:21.22 | Steven Woodside | some more. |
| 01:31:21.60 | Amy Howard | Thank you. I'll capture that too. Okay, I'm going to take a picture and then we will. Modern technology, erase this. Modern technology is like, |
| 01:31:30.80 | SPEAKER_00 | All right. |
| 01:31:32.17 | Amy Howard | So, and again, the mission is sort of the what And then you've got your vision. |
| 01:31:42.40 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:31:42.41 | Amy Howard | I am. I'm just going to go. So then when you get to your vision Next slide, is it on there? |
| 01:31:52.37 | Walfred Solorzano | It'll be under right now. |
| 01:31:55.61 | Amy Howard | last dimension. I did borrow images off your website, so now to the vision, next slide. |
| 01:32:02.54 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:32:07.67 | Unknown | Sorry. So I go on and off of it. |
| 01:32:13.70 | Amy Howard | I mean, I can read it too. |
| 01:32:15.17 | Unknown | No, no, I got it right here. |
| 01:32:16.41 | Amy Howard | Ciao. |
| 01:32:17.38 | Unknown | I'm sorry. There you go. |
| 01:32:19.01 | Amy Howard | And this is all on your website too, South Salido will bring together its residents, businesses, and visitors to create thriving, safe, environmentally welcoming, and friendly community that cultivates its natural beauty, history, the arts, and the waterfront culture. And again, a Bishop's statement is aspirational with a focus on the future. So It's, Perhaps when you're thinking of long-term goals, it's how you're gonna You know, what are the, do those goals fit within this aspiration? Comments or questions on this? This is a lot of words. Um, I'll have you notice that there's a value in bringing people together, like community engagement, all the different stakeholders. That's what I noticed. And, Okay. Public safety is key for everybody to enjoy. Environmentally welcoming, I have a question about what that means. because it could mean inclusivity, it could mean Handicap access, it could mean clean water and hair. and a friendly community that cultivates the natural beauty You know, are you doing that now? I think you are. But like, ask yourself, are you cultivating your natural beauty? preserving your history and the arts, which was mentioned earlier, and people seem to want more of that, or a couple did, and waterfront culture. Um, comments? Yes, sir. |
| 01:33:54.43 | Steven Woodside | Right. Just because I think this one is closer to the mark We've heard from people today. Thank you. with almost every one of the comments, but it's somewhere in that place. as I hear it and as I personally think of this town and what our vision is, what we like to change. Okay, there may be things that are missing that could be voted and I agree with you |
| 01:34:25.44 | Amy Howard | And it's okay. But okay, and Ian, I think you can run. |
| 01:34:30.65 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:34:30.69 | Chris Zapata | I guess my comments, since I've heard the mission statement, when I was reflecting on it, I went back and forth with whether or not to add excellent. |
| 01:34:31.23 | Amy Howard | I guess my |
| 01:34:40.44 | Chris Zapata | As an adjective to mission statement, because one couldn't have the mission statement just be providing services and infrastructure. The vision, then, is the aspiration to be excellent. I chose to stay excellent in the mission statement, so many people would say we need to be excellent, but if I was strictly doing this exercise as a business advisor, I would say, |
| 01:34:55.72 | Unknown | segue. |
| 01:35:01.52 | Chris Zapata | The mission of General Motors is to make cars. Their vision is to be the number one car manufacturer in the United States. |
| 01:35:07.60 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:35:09.33 | Chris Zapata | So I'm fine being repetitive, but to my mind, the vision in addition to what the mayor said, which I think and qualified by it is to embed in the vision that we want to go from where we are today, which is frankly, |
| 01:35:21.74 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:35:23.96 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. average Steve Bautista, City Services and average from the low average infrastructure to excellent that that's the vision that in some number of years or some future point maybe we're at the best rose in our economy or the highest. resident services in the county. |
| 01:35:43.93 | Amy Howard | If it's aspirational, let's say what we want to aspire to. |
| 01:35:48.13 | Chris Zapata | I mean, are we? Okay with mediocrity? And is our vision that we stay the way we are? or do we here. to issue for excellence. Because keeping excellence is our vision of excellence. as our vision. in infrastructure and greening services. Thank you. |
| 01:36:06.71 | Amy Howard | Oh, community services. I didn't put that. Yeah. Um, For sure. And I think part of that, |
| 01:36:13.04 | Joan Cox | mentioned earlier is you said expedited. |
| 01:36:16.31 | Unknown | Well, I mean, yeah. |
| 01:36:16.65 | Joan Cox | But I think that's, you know, response. I would love to incorporate the concepts of responsiveness and swift or expedited because, I mean, I got a skating email again yesterday about no response. you know uh i've written three times no one answers it's um you know it's and and it's been a year trying to. It's, you know, it's, and it's been a year trying to get a permit. Right. You know, I mentioned this at a recent city council meeting, San Francisco adopted permit SF to streamline certain types of permits. And I |
| 01:36:58.97 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 01:36:59.73 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 01:36:59.75 | Amy Howard | You know, unfortunately, our community are Thank you. that. CEDD department is one of our most forward-facing departments. Yeah. And so it necessarily is one of our most critical. Criticized, Steve Markins? And I would really like to work hard, too. that we have. And this was one of our goals of last year, was to improve our service, |
| 01:37:37.78 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:37:37.82 | Amy Howard | Customer service. Thank you. in the department or in all departments? In all departments, but that, Again, that department is the lightning rod, unfortunately. |
| 01:37:48.02 | Melissa Blaustein | Not necessarily. You know, our staff is very hardworking. |
| 01:37:53.54 | Amy Howard | But as you said, you know, they've got 63 projects pending. They have definitely needs more staff. And so, but we have to balance our finances with our staff. customer service. That's, you know, capacity. And I just want to clarify, I use the term expedite, not because I think it should be there, but I pulled it out in the air. So I figured something. |
| 01:38:08.77 | SPEAKER_00 | you know, |
| 01:38:18.32 | Joan Cox | You declared something for me, and this is something I get. |
| 01:38:20.29 | Amy Howard | Yeah. and look at the body. |
| 01:38:21.98 | Joan Cox | get criticized for I get hundreds of emails again. It is difficult for me sometimes to respond to email, but I have my night, eat dinner, and then go back to respond to more emails. |
| 01:38:33.98 | Amy Howard | because it is so important that. People don't realize that they're one in 200. They just think they're the most, and their email is very important to them. And so maybe that's a value, maybe responsiveness becomes a value. I love that organization. And you could have, um, but that's an idea. It's also, it's part of an evolutionary process because. |
| 01:38:46.04 | Angeline Loeffler | I think. |
| 01:38:49.60 | Angeline Loeffler | I love that. |
| 01:38:59.59 | Amy Howard | Boy, when I was first elected to the council, we hardly used email. It was really. |
| 01:39:05.03 | Joan Cox | In 2016, residents did not email nearly to the extent that they |
| 01:39:10.97 | Amy Howard | now. |
| 01:39:11.68 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 01:39:11.74 | Amy Howard | We got letters. I still got letters. And phone calls were important. I'm always scared when I get a letter now. Now, social media is just excellent. And so then Jill, excellent social media stuff. And it's so important. So checking right now to make sure they're current with their postings. You know, and I want to say also that the social media |
| 01:39:30.44 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:39:34.39 | Amy Howard | So, and that's an individual council kind of preference. There's also city social media, which can sometimes be confusing, where's that line? But also it drives the demand in the public |
| 01:39:44.99 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:39:46.66 | Amy Howard | Right? We all have to live this way now. But back in the day, You didn't have to be as responsive. The Council member or staff Melissa you have been just going to say I appreciate everything that john's bringing up, but a lot of that is tactics and I think like figuring out what are like using permanent that was a great idea, but I think as we deep dive into that we can get into specifics, but when I think about vision, I think it's a very aspirational. point and like I. |
| 01:40:15.02 | Melissa Blaustein | to agree about environmentally welcoming is very vague. I think we can put more in there about what |
| 01:40:20.96 | Amy Howard | what our big picture achievement would be. And I think it's important for us to all talk about what that means for us. Like, do we feel that I would agree that we would love to have an excellent community service and response. Okay. |
| 01:40:24.73 | Unknown | but, |
| 01:40:37.97 | Amy Howard | I just think that what Joan's getting at is really important, but I just want to make sure we are categorizing it where it goes. Is it something for tactics or is it something for So totally agree. |
| 01:40:49.31 | Joan Cox | Yeah, absolutely. It came up for me out of the excellence that Ian raised, how do we improve our excellence? |
| 01:40:49.35 | Amy Howard | Yeah. Okay. |
| 01:40:56.25 | Amy Howard | And all of these conversations and ideas, we're not choosing, you know, and we're just going to burble up later, hopefully. Yes, Steven. |
| 01:41:03.79 | Steven Woodside | Well, I think Ian hits it when he talks about this. The language has to be asked for each. So taking one word out of that series, I think most of those concepts are good, but they don't know themselves Capture the aspiration. I'll take one word safe Okay, we're relatively safe now in many respects, but we face existential threats of buyers our community have slid already and |
| 01:41:34.71 | Jill Hoffman | He doesn't mind. |
| 01:41:35.50 | Steven Woodside | level, right? So maybe a safer is the aspiration. |
| 01:41:37.29 | Jill Hoffman | THE MAIN UNITED STATES. |
| 01:41:38.27 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:41:38.39 | Jill Hoffman | Bye. |
| 01:41:38.42 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:41:38.52 | Jill Hoffman | or, Thank you. |
| 01:41:39.94 | Unknown | and |
| 01:41:41.00 | Steven Woodside | All of the standards and techniques flowed from that. |
| 01:41:41.02 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 01:41:41.05 | Unknown | Thank you. All of them. |
| 01:41:45.83 | Steven Woodside | Bye. I don't know if there are other places where we use that. change in language and capture what you're saying. This is aspirational. |
| 01:41:55.90 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:41:55.92 | Jill Hoffman | Move forward. |
| 01:41:56.05 | Steven Woodside | We want to be more beautiful. We want to be more beautiful. |
| 01:42:00.20 | Jill Hoffman | Kathy. |
| 01:42:00.93 | Steven Woodside | But I |
| 01:42:01.49 | Jill Hoffman | sort of |
| 01:42:01.89 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:42:01.98 | Chris Zapata | Because I you. |
| 01:42:03.02 | Jill Hoffman | That's pretty spikanto. |
| 01:42:03.82 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:42:03.83 | Chris Zapata | the actual exercise. We did it so the time on it would be the stress test by ambition, because we say excellence and then go through an exhaustive examination of what let's just say what it costs that actually make their own sex work. Yeah. And then how do we pay for it. we may find that. cannot solve the problem. that we have to accept. Above average. That's fair. But then we should put that back into our vision. because we're acknowledging it and then we're not falling short. It's not just encouragement. It actually died. This is supposed to arrive. |
| 01:42:39.69 | Amy Howard | and based on, you know, |
| 01:42:41.26 | Chris Zapata | And so just the complete, the thought, this is where the adult trade-offs, we all have to make them both. Everyone would love to always stay 28 years old. But we get older. We kind of get older. Or 32. Bigger number. There's some age where people would probably be happy to stay in their body. |
| 01:42:52.64 | SPEAKER_00 | Or 32. These are numbers. I'll be just saying, |
| 01:42:58.32 | Chris Zapata | And our talent gets older and we have to make trade-offs about change. And change is always hard and complex. And it only becomes more acceptable when it's a trade-off. You get better roads because you're willing to do this. But that is the trade-off. |
| 01:43:11.35 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. |
| 01:43:11.38 | Carolyn Revell | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:43:13.86 | Chris Zapata | It's easy, I think I have a paper excellence, but I acknowledge that if we go through the process of seeing how to pay for it, and there is stone drains, sea level rise, fire protection, we may not be able to actually get there, then I think we should modify our goal and ensure that it's realistic and adult and not just |
| 01:43:20.77 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:43:20.78 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 01:43:21.00 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:43:24.07 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 01:43:24.12 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 01:43:24.16 | Amy Howard | That's really fair. |
| 01:43:32.48 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 01:43:33.00 | Chris Zapata | We'll be sitting down. |
| 01:43:34.74 | Amy Howard | I really appreciate that when I was driving into town yesterday. This is the first time I've approached various reasons from the 101 and I took this. Alexander Avenue. Spencer or Alexander? Alexander is the one that comes down the hill. Okay, comes down the hill. |
| 01:43:48.36 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:43:48.37 | Carolyn Revell | Okay. |
| 01:43:48.69 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 01:43:50.28 | Amy Howard | And that was exciting for me. It was one of those, and it was like this, right? And all I could think of was a pavement index because I've been working with you guys for three years. |
| 01:43:57.67 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 01:43:57.98 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. |
| 01:43:59.70 | Amy Howard | So I'm thinking, But I'm thinking it's realistic. How realistic? And maybe it is. right? So I'm from out of dreams, but I was like, this is a tough problem. They're the way you are built, which is your charm. I don't know how realistic it is to completely fix everything like that, to your point. So, It was better. |
| 01:44:21.87 | Angeline Loeffler | You're with that. |
| 01:44:22.46 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:44:22.49 | SPEAKER_00 | Yeah. |
| 01:44:24.62 | Amy Howard | Again, I am not, but it's to that point. and the mayor, use the word existential, maybe it's worth being used because I don't know if in 2020 But there were the fires when the paradise happened. But you know, like now, I am so sensitive to fire stuff, right? What is it, wildlife urban interviews? You're pretty good. I don't have that, right? But this feels essential, right? So I'm gonna write that word up there. You guys do what you want with that, but is that okay if I write that word or is that just me talking? |
| 01:44:47.17 | Angeline Loeffler | I don't know. |
| 01:44:57.11 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:44:57.36 | Amy Howard | And somebody else, well, I've got my background if you want to add. something please do. This makes sense to me. pictures and |
| 01:45:11.50 | Amy Howard | Okay, anything else? |
| 01:45:11.82 | Angeline Loeffler | Okay. |
| 01:45:11.84 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 01:45:13.39 | Amy Howard | to think about for you guys to think about with vision. We've talked about that operational, we've talked about benchmarking it, we've talked about environmentally welcome felt a little You know, I don't remember |
| 01:45:26.03 | Joan Cox | where environment came from but |
| 01:45:27.68 | Amy Howard | And, |
| 01:45:30.18 | Joan Cox | You know, we aren't really faced with a lot of environmental challenges, whether it be rain, sea level rise, king tides, fires. So I do, I would like to figure out how to incorporate addressing environmental challenges in our vision. saturation you know topography. Yeah. Yeah. |
| 01:46:02.53 | Amy Howard | I want. Well, because when I read it and I kept looking at, There's a reason I'm not an elementary school teacher. The reason I, when I looked at it, I'm like, I think they were trying to say welcoming to all. Right, we want you. We were very much into DEI that year. We had just done a workshop |
| 01:46:21.46 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:46:21.90 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 01:46:22.04 | Joan Cox | with all of the various law enforcement agencies residents of the Marin City with Sausalito. |
| 01:46:29.97 | Amy Howard | And part of that may still be about you, inclusivity or wealth, but but the environmentally welcome was probably a way to put it all together. So what I'm hearing a lot of anger out. |
| 01:46:41.46 | Joan Cox | I'm here. |
| 01:46:43.62 | Amy Howard | And so our anchor |
| 01:46:46.03 | Joan Cox | and we had one dying every year. And so that was another thing regarding the environment. |
| 01:46:51.76 | Amy Howard | Yeah, that's something I'm not dealing with. I feel like Mr. Mayor, but I hear environmental existential environmental challenges. I hear that it's something that you guys may want to elevate Mr. Mayor. |
| 01:47:02.91 | Steven Woodside | It's interesting how we can all read the same word, have no difference on it. But I thought part of it was to say, as the cities, we want to do less harm to the city. |
| 01:47:06.74 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 01:47:06.76 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:47:06.77 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 01:47:06.79 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:47:16.44 | Steven Woodside | Oh, man. |
| 01:47:16.53 | Unknown | that. Interesting. |
| 01:47:18.84 | Steven Woodside | And I think we do. |
| 01:47:18.92 | Unknown | Amen. |
| 01:47:20.26 | Steven Woodside | program to do that. So, you know, that's another aspiration. Maybe the wording is fine-tuned after that as well. That's what we want to Thank you. |
| 01:47:30.85 | Amy Howard | Yeah. We may not be announced. I read it as environmentally welcoming like, I'm just a waterfront. Yeah, access. Like points of access in the context of the state. So it's going to be. |
| 01:47:34.13 | Steven Woodside | like, |
| 01:47:35.41 | Joan Cox | All right. |
| 01:47:35.44 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 01:47:36.34 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:47:36.51 | Joan Cox | Thank you. So it's going to be- |
| 01:47:39.63 | Melissa Blaustein | Oh, great. |
| 01:47:39.81 | Joan Cox | But I think that's what we were thinking about. |
| 01:47:40.62 | Amy Howard | Yeah. It's going to be a good question, just and maybe rewrite it all together, but it's a good question to think about. And I might chat and if that maybe outside my scope, Do no harm. I hope it's a value or I hope it's part of your credo or help. Thank you. But the existential piece, which you mentioned earlier, may be more of the threat, you know, so, but yeah, so it's not enough to do no harm anymore, right? Right. I think I bet you everybody in this room has been doing their best to do no harm for a long time. I know I separate all my stuff out and I compost and it's not enough. |
| 01:48:11.20 | Unknown | Right. |
| 01:48:11.98 | Unknown | I bet. |
| 01:48:20.28 | Amy Howard | But, you know, we can put them both. I'll also say we started, we went bottom line. So we figured out our various goals and values, and then we came up to our vision, and then we came up to our mission in a way. |
| 01:48:35.72 | Joan Cox | in an effort to have it encapsulate the various goals that we had all aligned on throughout the day. Okay. So that the mission was the thing that was done at the therapy and the |
| 01:48:47.52 | Amy Howard | Well, and that might, that's what I'm, all I'm doing is responding to kind of the direction I heard that we can't do a strategic plan all in one day, or we're not doing that right now. Why don't we affirm, like affirm these things or start the discussion, but that's a great, you know, helpful historical background. |
| 01:48:47.53 | Joan Cox | Well, I know. |
| 01:49:06.22 | Amy Howard | Any more on this? Before I... |
| 01:49:08.97 | Chris Zapata | Yeah, sorry. And I don't know if you're going to propose that we do in the proper section, but of all the. That often is, and I'm sure that that can be successful sometimes, but that is in fact where a lot of these currently completely won't play fairly fast. Yeah, the information statements, does anybody want to? Yeah, they're clarifying. is to actually go the other way. Yeah. Visual values of everything is conforming how you do it. But you could see that you can sell marijuana. So value of the battery and constraints on how do you achieve it? to go. One of those. |
| 01:49:49.58 | Steven Woodside | one of those. Either way. So |
| 01:49:53.40 | Amy Howard | Okay. |
| 01:49:53.43 | Steven Woodside | And, |
| 01:49:53.50 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:49:53.78 | Steven Woodside | RENDIED. |
| 01:49:54.04 | Amy Howard | or a good bag. |
| 01:49:54.83 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:49:54.97 | Joan Cox | you. |
| 01:49:55.47 | Amy Howard | uh, Sometimes bad examples actually help the most. |
| 01:49:59.25 | Joan Cox | Yeah. What could we put in our |
| 01:50:01.97 | Amy Howard | to not do that, kind of not. Go because we are rapidly producing a huge thing, but yet we're not willing to open a casino or. That's why. |
| 01:50:13.97 | Chris Zapata | Yes. Absolutely. That's the thing as a lawyer, you know, that word and then you form it. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. They should stay short and focused on. |
| 01:50:14.17 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 01:50:14.37 | Unknown | Yeah, absolutely. |
| 01:50:20.50 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 01:50:20.52 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 01:50:20.75 | Amy Howard | you |
| 01:50:24.08 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:50:24.11 | Chris Zapata | services and infrastructure. |
| 01:50:25.41 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:50:26.03 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 01:50:26.07 | Chris Zapata | Yeah. |
| 01:50:26.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:50:27.25 | Amy Howard | And that's sometimes, and I'm not suggesting that, |
| 01:50:27.27 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:50:27.37 | Chris Zapata | Bye. |
| 01:50:31.70 | Amy Howard | however, whomever, whatever. But sometimes people will have a day, an evening of like community input on values, et cetera, that then you guys can talk about. But I also think that it can work really well in a full day like this because you guys do represent your community. All right, so I'm gonna erase this unless Anybody has something they're dying existential that they wanna add? That's a fun, right? |
| 01:51:00.68 | Unknown | Everybody said it. I am great, Amy. |
| 01:51:01.99 | Amy Howard | I am such a nerd. Thank you. So if you wonder what our company is going on, |
| 01:51:09.65 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:51:16.91 | Amy Howard | Okay, I'll do it right now. |
| 01:51:18.40 | Unknown | I can help you. |
| 01:51:19.88 | Amy Howard | No, it's okay. |
| 01:51:20.07 | Steven Woodside | Bye. Thank you. |
| 01:51:22.43 | Amy Howard | I just don't like having my back. Okay. |
| 01:51:25.67 | Steven Woodside | Can I just back up? |
| 01:51:27.07 | Amy Howard | and |
| 01:51:27.43 | Steven Woodside | you just ask, Chris, no. I'm sorry you're leaving us, but before you leave, Thank you. |
| 01:51:37.50 | Chris Zapata | That's the failing. Yes, things change. And so people change in circumstances and eventually, I'm just going to be sure because they're listening. That's what people do. And then someone will do it after you, try to make sense to you. |
| 01:51:51.32 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 01:51:55.27 | Amy Howard | Good question. Okay, so and again, we're not going to talk about the overarching goals and obviously it's an iterative process. So now if we can go to the next, oh, look at the status. Okay. Again, I think I would ask you all to think about these values. What Whose values are they? You know, are they how the city staff and you all work together to provide the services or Did I miss the cell phone? Or are there, or is it the values of the community? you know, to represent. the community. I think that would be if you guys aligned on that alone today, and maybe you won't, but I think that's important for going forward. Um, You know, and you might then say to your city manager, new or current that we want to value something about how you are. how you see your staff, you know, this directs how your staff should perform things. But Do you want this to be the values? Did you want it for you or? No. |
| 01:53:05.55 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 01:53:07.71 | Amy Howard | So the values first. So my first question is not, you know, what are they or should we change, but are they, this organization. how you interact, you know, like teamwork, It might be. That's to be important. But, or is the values? Here it says, the values provide the basis for how the organization and its members will work to achieve the mission, mission, and will. So in that, The definition, these really are about how you're going to achieve those goals. So, Thoughts? Am I making it overly complicated, as I like to do? |
| 01:53:47.32 | Unknown | We just said something to help me understand it better. |
| 01:53:50.74 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 01:53:50.76 | Alice Merrill | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:53:51.22 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:53:51.47 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. I didn't, until you just said it, it reminded me that The values are not necessarily the values of the whole community, the values of the city government organization. That's a big difference because Well, you're taking |
| 01:54:03.10 | Amy Howard | I keep taking my health in place, but that is what |
| 01:54:05.12 | Chris Zapata | Well, yes, there's a fair elections. |
| 01:54:10.57 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:54:10.94 | Chris Zapata | We will look at this again. |
| 01:54:12.33 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:54:12.82 | Chris Zapata | one of the consequences of elections is that the ascendant values can change as the city and the community either accepts and endorses or rejects and changes the values expressed here and that will then be a |
| 01:54:19.50 | Adrian Brinton | Ooh. |
| 01:54:27.46 | Chris Zapata | It is important to get rid of it. I got started with like, well, how do you fully capture all of the diverse values in town. And it's really not saying that, it's what are the values that the city government has responsiveness for. |
| 01:54:34.60 | Angeline Loeffler | Bye. |
| 01:54:34.79 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:54:35.02 | Angeline Loeffler | Thank you. |
| 01:54:41.05 | Chris Zapata | um, critical informed risk pain or hydro conservatives Whatever. |
| 01:54:47.31 | Joan Cox | That's right with finances. |
| 01:54:47.56 | Amy Howard | Thank you. Right. |
| 01:54:48.96 | Chris Zapata | find it and then my guys |
| 01:54:50.85 | Joan Cox | And we are a representative government. We are elected by the community. |
| 01:54:51.01 | Chris Zapata | Yeah. |
| 01:54:55.68 | Joan Cox | based on their perception of how we will address their values. |
| 01:54:59.97 | Amy Howard | their values. And you're part of the city organization, so how you interact with the community can be driven by this in a way too. Vote for my husband. I see it's okay. I can be a free suit. Yes, sir. |
| 01:55:11.47 | Steven Woodside | Not that I'm voting for him, but I'm |
| 01:55:12.91 | Amy Howard | I'm starting to come around. |
| 01:55:15.73 | Steven Woodside | Well, no, that's what it said. Yes, says that that's what it was intended to reflect primarily was the organization. But I don't know how you have, how you're able to connect as well as you want. The way the government operates with quite the values of the community, that's where the road is. And I don't think it's an easy thing to easily get stuck there. I'm saying, is it a matter of value or should we then just go right to the goal? and say, this is a goal, it's a community goal, Now let's get on with it. I don't know. raising concerns. |
| 01:56:00.80 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 01:56:01.29 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 01:56:01.74 | Jill Hoffman | Yes, sir. |
| 01:56:02.39 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:56:02.45 | Chris Zapata | my response or my reaction would be, to be nimble, like Joe said. be flexible about it. So if we were in an economic depression, the value that might be ascendant is Thank you. and I'm being conservative with the EU. Financial, for instance. |
| 01:56:16.93 | Unknown | I didn't start with her. |
| 01:56:19.90 | Chris Zapata | But if you're in a environment that feels more stable or you've got more financial resources, maybe you're more risky. they can dial it up or back. And that's our chamber. part of the exercise that we're doing today. |
| 01:56:32.96 | Steven Woodside | And we define it. It's our choices. So the organization needs to be agile. That's the best. That could be a value. Or could be a value. Right. In order to respond to the community and their needs of it. |
| 01:56:40.25 | Unknown | That would be a value. |
| 01:56:48.44 | Steven Woodside | for why the world has affected our ability forward. Thank you. |
| 01:56:53.45 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 01:56:53.47 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:56:53.50 | Chris Zapata | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:56:53.74 | Steven Woodside | So when COVID comes along, are we ready for it? |
| 01:56:59.09 | Amy Howard | Well, one thing that Ian talked about in his mission about reflective of your community. Like the mission, you know, we'll provide that to those services, reflect and something about on the other thing, but reflective of the community. So that also captures values. And I think it was Jill who mentioned you are, or maybe it was Joan, representative of the people who elected you, right? So there is some representation of the values And it's true there's always a new election. For the public, I just want to point out that This is the first step. conversation is happening lie, in other words, The council members didn't have any prompts or much ahead of time to say, this is what we're really gonna do. I did talk to them on the phone, But, This is what I think is great is watching how you think. And you're all thinking on your seat very capably for your community. But I guess it's not something that they've had lots of work on. Which... It's intentional because this is, again, this is going to lead into |
| 01:58:01.64 | SPEAKER_00 | Yeah. |
| 01:58:01.71 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 01:58:01.76 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. |
| 01:58:03.67 | Amy Howard | You're proud. Yeah. Any more on like, so the values, if you look at them, I think it was So innovation, creativity and risk taking transparent and accessible government. OpenGov, yay. Create an environment where people excel to their full potential, professionalism, accountability, respect for equity and inclusion, excellence in public service and teamwork you know, again, not going through all of them, but Agile, Right? Responsive. I like, Joan, I think what you said about customer service, And that had been a goal before, uh, If you think about it, We... I, sorry, I include myself in a minute, you are a customer service agency in a way, right? I mean, you are constantly, how your person at the desk where somebody's paying for their |
| 01:58:53.90 | SPEAKER_00 | you know, |
| 01:58:58.88 | Amy Howard | permit. You know, if they're rude, then they think the whole city's rude. Right? And we get that a lot. I'm not saying yours are, but we, and it's something that we have to work on. So, you know, thinking about it, |
| 01:59:11.59 | Melissa Blaustein | I know this is something that's |
| 01:59:13.02 | Joan Cox | Chief brought up during the annual meeting, which is that sometimes a resident's encounter with the police is their one and only encounter with the police ever. And so their opinion of the police department |
| 01:59:21.02 | SPEAKER_00 | Amen. |
| 01:59:25.71 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 01:59:25.85 | Joan Cox | may be completely |
| 01:59:26.98 | Amy Howard | framed by whether that officer is having a good day or a bad day, or compassionate in a difficult situation. So that's again another great example of how important our forward-facing public servants are, including us. Yes. |
| 01:59:49.03 | Jill Hoffman | despite the fact that I was behind you again. Is that following our excellence in public service? Maybe that's just, maybe that's just drilling down into that excellence in public service and public interaction. |
| 02:00:00.97 | Unknown | So, |
| 02:00:01.03 | Jill Hoffman | And |
| 02:00:02.23 | Unknown | But I see that's what I was looking at. I was trying to figure out, okay, where is that interaction between... |
| 02:00:06.99 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:00:08.39 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:00:08.41 | Jill Hoffman | stuff. And then rolling out of the interface, right? Between services to whatever the residents or the user, however you want to say that. |
| 02:00:25.11 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:00:25.77 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:00:25.84 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 02:00:25.89 | Jill Hoffman | MULTIPLE. |
| 02:00:25.97 | Amy Howard | I'm just thinking about how are the values as written, how have they shown up in a new way |
| 02:00:33.03 | Melissa Blaustein | policy decisions to date and are they going to be |
| 02:00:35.98 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 02:00:36.37 | Melissa Blaustein | are they going to continue? So if we say we want agile to be a value when we're making a decision about spending for our general fund, do we need to look, refer back to that? |
| 02:00:46.97 | Amy Howard | and say, does this make us an agile organization going forward? I just don't know that we have previously referred back and used them as a tool. |
| 02:00:55.03 | Melissa Blaustein | or having this conversation we should think about. Is there like a, how do we do that? Does that mean in our annual budgeting conversation, we include a list of our core values and talk about that in the context of it, because the way you budget is a demonstration of your values. For example, people always say, |
| 02:01:09.97 | Amy Howard | that in city government, and I believe it to be true. Right, but the budget is your moral document, right? |
| 02:01:18.00 | Chris Zapata | I think it was great on this and it's like I also had Because I haven't actually booked with these guys in a while. And I know that City Manager of the Podet had adopted a policy on staff reports attaching |
| 02:01:24.31 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:01:29.85 | Chris Zapata | uh, Goal is a good goal or a strategy thing, but I do kind of feel like it's a little bit of an afterthought, just that before it gets written And then you go get well, which which goal can I attach it to? Instead of being sort of the true North Star of Goethe-chanel for my colleagues, that would be kind of the breadth of the sphere of every question, which is how do you look at this as agile as the thing? went that way through and I talked about myself. That's amazing. |
| 02:01:58.75 | Amy Howard | I mean, |
| 02:01:59.77 | Chris Zapata | Right. |
| 02:01:59.90 | Amy Howard | Well, one way you can do that is no matter what these become, is to have it kind of in every packet at the back or the front, you know, so that you can refer to it. Maybe it's not staff that are going, oh, I think this is, I don't know, it could be excellent public service. Maybe you look at it, because maybe somebody's not striking you right about something. You look back like, oh, that's why. You know, it should be guiding. I have a question about the finance subcommittee or for Angeline. Do you have like some foundation about your guiding principle for finance? Like we adopted, I mean, don't spend more than you. |
| 02:02:38.66 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. We don't have an example of one, but we have a lot of legal requirements. That's our health funding. You've got to have this. That's got to stay your obligations. |
| 02:02:48.53 | Steven Woodside | There's a whole series of things that inform us. But no, we don't have a |
| 02:02:48.94 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:02:49.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:02:54.15 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. All right. finance policy. |
| 02:02:57.70 | Unknown | Thank you. you Thank you. |
| 02:02:58.51 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:02:58.51 | Amy Howard | I mean, I don't know that you might not agree that you need one. I know we have one, so then when I'm doing my budget, |
| 02:02:58.56 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:02:58.57 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 02:03:04.31 | Amy Howard | Well, I'm doing budget, when I'm body-sign budget. You know, I can say wait, this is too risky of a wage and best in this or whatnot. Um, we could call it a finance policy or, you know, for |
| 02:03:20.09 | Chris Zapata | a placeholder The city does have investment policies. |
| 02:03:23.38 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 02:03:24.29 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:03:26.01 | Amy Howard | We don't have. |
| 02:03:26.72 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 02:03:27.41 | Amy Howard | do not know. |
| 02:03:28.00 | Jill Hoffman | I'll take care. |
| 02:03:28.91 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 02:03:29.37 | Jill Hoffman | you |
| 02:03:29.39 | Amy Howard | Do we have an investment policy statement? Because that would be something that would be important for us to generate from my perspective. I mean, beyond just the policies, but the statement of the driving, which is very related to this, but I'm on board with organizations where we absolutely have a long conversation about our investment policy. Yeah, but investment policy is different. Yeah, sure. |
| 02:03:48.05 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:03:48.09 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:03:48.41 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:03:49.13 | Amy Howard | Of course, what we just talked about. You could have both. But yes, Stephen, Mr. Mayor. |
| 02:03:53.87 | Steven Woodside | Well, what triggered is that one of my experiences, Sonoma County, they had a finance policy and included something that, kind of relates to a lot of what you were talking about, but in this way. basically say, here's our projection for revenue. If it comes in over the projection, It can be spent. but only on a non-recurring |
| 02:04:24.43 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:04:25.26 | Steven Woodside | That was a policy. When you think about it, you don't just assume you're going to stay on that bi-level and be able to spend that every year. And I think you intuitively do that. You don't need a policy for you to do that. |
| 02:04:38.76 | Chris Zapata | from what the constitutional law at the point. When you said we don't have any financial policy, you do it, investment policy, but you don't have drill down kind of policy. And that's what I was talking about earlier in my presentation about how are you using funds from MLK, from marketing, and you should. And you should have a conversation about, are you going to spend it as you spend on it? Or are you going to set aside the future needs or need to consider it? But it's still working right now. So that's what I'm talking about. I think that's where we need a more drill down approach to the financing. So we're going to get to the finance committee. But specific finance, don't spend more. |
| 02:05:09.35 | Unknown | I appreciate it. |
| 02:05:15.67 | SPEAKER_00 | But this was |
| 02:05:18.96 | Chris Zapata | We have guiding budgets, but we don't have policy now. We have investment policy, which is very conservative, which is why you have the situation you have with your CalPERS and your other investments. |
| 02:05:30.80 | Amy Howard | And I think it would be a good place to start it, your financial committee. I love what, I think what you're saying is, when I was on the school board, you know, parents would come to us and say, we need X, we need Y, and we would get one-time fun. And we were very disciplined about these are one-time funds. They can use the facility or equipment. the five, We're not adding a staff member based on one-time funds. Right, so stuff like that. And then that really does help you And you guys get to decide. I see it helping rather than hemming in, But so that's a good thing that's come up now. Anything else that you want to just pull out of here? Again, I understand this is not the day of, But I do think I saw consensus that this would be the values of the organization Did I read that correctly? I think so. Okay. Well, organization is a city, sorry. Yeah. No, but I'll confirm that it's the city, it's the city government, it's all the people who work for us. I'm coming back there to take a picture also. |
| 02:06:33.85 | Angeline Loeffler | Thank you. |
| 02:06:39.37 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:06:40.41 | Amy Howard | But it is how they interact. So let me take a picture. But what happened? Okay, Boomer, let's see. |
| 02:06:50.03 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:06:51.03 | Amy Howard | That was so true. You should be with. |
| 02:06:54.77 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:06:55.18 | Amy Howard | I'm better at all. of. Like I said, imagine our city council meetings. um, So again, I will sort of write some things up and then you get, I don't know how your process will work and how you're going to go about it. But as a summary report, here's what I heard. Here's where I think you guys can spend some time. I do think it worked out. |
| 02:07:15.51 | Carolyn Revell | Bye. |
| 02:07:16.19 | Angeline Loeffler | I don't know. |
| 02:07:18.92 | Amy Howard | It's funny how these things work out if you're really listening in that |
| 02:07:19.44 | Unknown | that is, |
| 02:07:23.48 | Amy Howard | Fritz was talking about something in this reporting that you could use this and it kind of comes up in this discussion, right? So there's a lot of good synergy there. I think what Ian was talking about how You know, it's good to have these discussions maybe before you go setting six-year strategic goals. It doesn't mean that we can't have a discussion, which we will, about this year or your future agenda items, right? But it's interesting how those things come up. So any further things on this? Why. On this. Actually, if you could go, I think it. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. |
| 02:08:01.02 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:08:01.07 | Amy Howard | It's interesting. We're all commenting on the setup, right? Thank you. Okay. So, I guess I think it would be interesting for you guys to have a conversation amongst yourself I think I know the answer, but I think you guys need to talk about Affirming, do you want to enter the process again? And when do you want to do that? I think this is a good time to have that discussion. I'll sit down, but I'll still call on Oh, should I? Take notes. up. do you want to enter into a new strategic |
| 02:08:43.31 | Unknown | good. |
| 02:08:43.92 | Amy Howard | strategic process. And, I'm going to sit and take some notes, but I'll get them up for you to see. So anybody, can you speak? Yeah, Mr. Mayor, please. |
| 02:08:49.32 | Unknown | to see. |
| 02:08:54.28 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:08:54.32 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 02:08:54.33 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:08:54.37 | Steven Woodside | Amen. well on 2.1. Over here that we'll have lunch around. So this. discussion doesn't end necessarily, but Keep that in mind. I can't interrupt it. |
| 02:09:05.37 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 02:09:07.14 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:09:07.44 | Amy Howard | Working lunch. |
| 02:09:09.00 | Steven Woodside | My answer to the question is yes, absolutely. AND AS TO WHEN, and the actual hardware. uh, I don't think we didn't do it for the end of the year. I'm worried about that. Secondly, there's never been support. You're hiring a new city manager. We're going to have a plan. |
| 02:09:30.82 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:09:31.31 | Steven Woodside | that you affect will be followed by a bunch of bottles who directs and follows them. having that person involved. That's those are my thoughts. I mean, open that other suggestion. But I think we all feel a sense of urgency. about it. And then lastly, but honestly, I really like it. What we're doing today because we go back and forth. And I know when we're sitting in the dais and agenda items, et cetera, there's not much opportunity. this kind of conversation or real conversation with them. and talk to someone, make a motion, move on. So whatever we do, session more like this. really come to a bring that that reflects community values as well. institutional values we aspire to. Thank you. |
| 02:10:31.87 | Amy Howard | Yeah, and we'll talk even more freely as we go. In another session, okay, so I hear you say, Yes to a strategic plan. Um, And do you just wanna go down the row or do people wanna say raise their hand and say yes? |
| 02:10:45.93 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. |
| 02:10:47.06 | Amy Howard | or Let's go down a row. Oh, go ahead, Jill. No. I agree. Okay, that's a good turn. |
| 02:10:56.15 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:10:57.22 | Amy Howard | Okay. Um, No, overtly, yes. In terms of timing. Um, I would like the best of both worlds. I'm a Virga. I like things to be done just so. And so I would love us to have our 2027 strategic plan in place by July 1 of 2026, which is the start of that fiscal year when this strategic plan ends. In place by June. In place, yeah. I would like us to do the work in June, for example, so that it's in place by July 1, because that's when we will be finalizing our budget. They'll know what our budget is. So that would just be my... |
| 02:11:30.98 | Angeline Loeffler | play again. |
| 02:11:44.33 | Amy Howard | We're friends in a perfect world. And I would like to have both city managers involved. I would like to have our new city manager involved, and I would like to have our current city manager involved, whether it's as a consultant or whatever, so that we have the institutional knowledge and the working of staff and the capacity of staff, and that really deep understanding that he has, with hard work acquired over the last five years, |
| 02:11:56.53 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. |
| 02:11:56.57 | Jill Hoffman | whatever. |
| 02:12:10.03 | Jill Hoffman | I'm just... at play together with the |
| 02:12:14.56 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:12:14.66 | Jill Hoffman | volume of a new student. |
| 02:12:19.63 | Amy Howard | um, Ann, you have any thoughts? Do I put you on the spot? |
| 02:12:25.76 | Chris Zapata | Yeah. This afternoon after lunch, what are we doing? |
| 02:12:30.70 | Amy Howard | Well, and we'll do some during lunch. Well, I also want to talk about a little, I think during lunch I want to talk |
| 02:12:32.54 | Chris Zapata | The future does. |
| 02:12:38.23 | Amy Howard | tease out if there's any kind of dreams for the year or any kind of exciting |
| 02:12:44.22 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:12:44.24 | Chris Zapata | So yes, I think we need to do our strategic plan that they don't miss 2026. Like John, I agree. I think you get started right away because the questions need to be noodled on and wrestled with. And my real point is, I have been now on the council for five years. I feel like I, as much as anyone, get distracted by stuff that doesn't need to do it. Mm-hmm. This question of whether we're really serious about having excellent infrastructure and excellent community service is the big question. And when we get distracted by relatively small stuff, then we're not paying attention to the strategic So this little bucket right here is our city budget. Each one of these M&Ms is a million dollars. The $17 million that we were just invested into infrastructure is every year basically the last decade and a half, we had this much surplus over the entire organization. These little M&Ms accumulated so that we could spend $17 million our infrastructure. And we're seeing that all across town, right? So this is our city budget every year, but this was our surplus. Right? just to fix the roads to a quality of B81. Fix this much. This is our whole budget. This is just the roads. Right. So let's put it on here. |
| 02:14:13.30 | Amy Howard | No. |
| 02:14:14.30 | Chris Zapata | This is just a storm drain. right, $20 million, just to deal with the most defective ones. This is just the stairs all across town, crumbling stairs that need attention. This is just, if you want to hire 10 more people, so slightly increased level of service, permanent tax, cops, librarian, just 10 more people over 20 years. or 10 years, I'm sorry, it's that way. And this is just fixing our buildings over 10 years. I forgot what the exact number is here. It's $26 million worth of living. And some of the M&Ms fell out. All right, so this is our need to be excellent. And this is our annual budget. And if we don't do anything big, This is our surplus. So how many years will it take to solve our problem? And if we keep doing things the same way, So I have ideas of my own. Obviously I think In fact, obviously I'm not advocating for raising taxes. I think we're actually tax too high. In fact, we're not competitive on taxes. Our sales tax is higher than so. I mean, our communities are not, our communities are going to be lower, so we track these. We have the marinship that could generate a lot more revenue if we economically liberalize it. Or in its 1022 says, no change in use is allowed if it increases commercial use. We actually have a lot in town against increasing commercial activity. That makes sense in its own context. |
| 02:15:42.37 | Adrian Brinton | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:15:45.37 | Chris Zapata | when all you care about is Trump. But it doesn't make sense when you've got this problem. So I challenge my colleagues and ourselves and the community to the thought process are we serious about the goal of excellence? If we're okay with mediocre, PCI 60 buildings in the shape they are. We can kind of keep doing the same thing, but if we want to have an excellence, we need to figure out how to pay for it, and that involves trade-offs. Another hotel in town, like Inabond Cards, would be a million dollars in revenue. So this seems like a big number. But divide this by 25 years, it's $10 million more a year. We have a budget currently of $30 million. So that's a big increase, 30% increase. Where do we get that revenue from? It can't be raising taxes. I think the only answer is some kind of liberalization of economic activity. And that, of course, is a trade off of all the things that come with it. There's more stuff going on right now. Some people may not like that. It means maybe more restaurants. It means maybe more another hotel. It might be an EFID or other kinds of financial districts. But this is a serious problem. We're not talking about this. We're kind of just |
| 02:16:50.58 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:16:54.17 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. Eating around the edges is a challenge for all of us. So that's fine. |
| 02:16:59.34 | Amy Howard | All right, I see Mr. Mayor wants to talk as well. You may have skipped over me. I do. I'm so sorry. Okay. No, I can't really answer in the context of what Ian just said. So never mind. No, please. No, I mean, it's fine. Yes, I think we should do one. |
| 02:17:09.21 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. |
| 02:17:09.24 | Angeline Loeffler | Yeah. |
| 02:17:11.37 | Joan Cox | No, no. |
| 02:17:12.03 | Unknown | Yeah, I can't really answer that. |
| 02:17:12.95 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:17:12.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:17:20.94 | Amy Howard | So, |
| 02:17:20.99 | Steven Woodside | So if we put the overall strategic plan before what Ian is talking about, we won't get to what Ian is talking about. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:17:32.28 | Amy Howard | Bye. |
| 02:17:32.41 | Steven Woodside | THE END OF |
| 02:17:33.14 | Amy Howard | you |
| 02:17:33.20 | Steven Woodside | Amen. |
| 02:17:33.29 | Amy Howard | So you're saying if we don't anything we want to start talking now |
| 02:17:37.85 | Steven Woodside | Let's talk about what he just talked about, and I fully agree. And that's part of this year's budget. We have a big infrastructure need. We know that. We've got to figure out as soon as possible how we're going to meet that need if we can and do it strategically. And I would call that a strategic plan for infrastructure. Yes, let's do that. but we just spent a lot of time trying to talk about mission values, all the SWOT analysis, all the other things that are going on in this town, It'll slow down. So I agree with you on that point. And we should move expeditiously. When we talk about gold, I would say that's a goal for us this year, right now. |
| 02:18:14.28 | SPEAKER_00 | I agree with you. |
| 02:18:24.50 | Steven Woodside | and you're thinking about it and we should talk about it. Maybe we don't agree on all the details, wraps, the how, all that, but That's a looming issue, no question. And it's foremost on the minds of a lot of people. you know, Our roads are way substandard, we've known it for that long. They're getting better. Thank you. |
| 02:18:47.98 | Jill Hoffman | We are on our heart list for decades, literally. |
| 02:18:48.03 | Unknown | I don't. Yeah. I knew him. |
| 02:18:50.78 | Jill Hoffman | And you can finally, wait, go ahead. |
| 02:18:52.70 | Unknown | I just thought it's so easy to put checkers in line. |
| 02:18:52.75 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:18:54.80 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 02:18:55.94 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:18:56.03 | Chris Zapata | because all the things are right in front of us. It's much harder to think about Jessica or something. And I don't, if the answer's no, that we want to be E plus or C, that's okay. It reduces the number of NM's in the EDS jar. Has anyone said that? Yeah. I don't know, but that's the thing is, I'm just asking us all to consider. |
| 02:19:07.52 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:19:07.54 | Brent Moore | as well. |
| 02:19:07.70 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
| 02:19:07.72 | Brent Moore | Bye. |
| 02:19:07.76 | Joan Cox | because |
| 02:19:08.18 | Brent Moore | But, you know, |
| 02:19:10.49 | Joan Cox | I'm just asking us all, |
| 02:19:11.32 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:19:11.42 | Joan Cox | Bye. people. |
| 02:19:12.09 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 02:19:12.30 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:19:12.33 | Amy Howard | I'm sorry. |
| 02:19:12.40 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Yes. |
| 02:19:12.95 | Chris Zapata | he said |
| 02:19:13.63 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:19:13.71 | Amy Howard | anyone said to him that we want to be a mediator. You should say the reality for him is that it cost that money in bed. |
| 02:19:14.05 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:19:14.07 | Chris Zapata | I haven't said that to you. No, no, no. |
| 02:19:17.14 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:19:19.70 | Chris Zapata | Yeah, I've got to send it. And the drink was used. The goal is to compare on white comedy quality infrastructure and city services. come up with an old waste of paperwork. and decide whether the trade-off of those OCK order acceptable. And they're not. and they are acceptable, then we can embrace it. And we can attempt a lot of work. |
| 02:19:44.19 | Steven Woodside | Well, to the town, you have a fun place to help with that. It takes a lot of work on our part And as would a full-blown security plan, all I'm saying is I'd like us to be able to focus on the highest priority that we see right now so we get something done. That's my advice. |
| 02:20:01.06 | Amy Howard | Right. I think what I'm hearing is there's a little bit of a transition happening at this right now, today, in that I was talking about strategic plan, next six years, when are you going to do that, when are you going to talk about it, whatever. And now we're kind of switching focus a little bit to the here and now in sort of And Um, And I think perhaps over lunch, We can talk about... |
| 02:20:26.85 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 02:20:26.87 | Steven Woodside | about, you know, So, |
| 02:20:27.61 | Amy Howard | So, |
| 02:20:27.64 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:20:27.96 | Amy Howard | Yeah, I know. I almost went to get the ones on the floor and then I'm like, wait. I don't care if you can't eat candy off the floor. |
| 02:20:28.18 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:20:28.57 | Steven Woodside | Bye. |
| 02:20:28.59 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:20:29.09 | SPEAKER_00 | Bye. |
| 02:20:29.25 | Angeline Loeffler | I was, I always, |
| 02:20:34.36 | Unknown | I don't care. It's all right. |
| 02:20:40.62 | Amy Howard | Yeah, really. |
| 02:20:41.46 | Unknown | Yeah, brilliant. Thank you. |
| 02:20:42.81 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 02:20:42.86 | Unknown | All the time. |
| 02:20:43.42 | Amy Howard | Yeah, yeah. Well, so, and we can, I want to talk about that some more, and I, and I want, we're not done, and then we'll have, and he has a whole bag down your head, too. Go ahead, Jill. |
| 02:20:47.71 | Unknown | And I was like, |
| 02:20:51.60 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:20:51.64 | Carolyn Revell | Yeah. |
| 02:20:51.81 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. But that's the answer. |
| 02:20:54.56 | Amy Howard | Yes, there's more. Let's go to the Bible. |
| 02:20:55.76 | Steven Woodside | Right. I was sorry, well that. |
| 02:20:58.30 | Jill Hoffman | solution to all of them. |
| 02:20:59.28 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 02:20:59.30 | Unknown | right? |
| 02:20:59.52 | Amy Howard | The dollar center, the dollar center, |
| 02:20:59.74 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:20:59.81 | Jill Hoffman | I was in the car, I was in the car. |
| 02:21:01.29 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:21:03.01 | Amy Howard | If you can't buy I guess we can throw up by. So, Aspirational, so aspirationally, great. We have a nice discussion, but realistically, there's only so many daylight hours for this council, and our staff. And so, I agree with that. I would agree with Ian and I think our mayor's strategic goal of yeah, infrastructure, focus on infrastructure as a strategic goal and discipline of this council and the staff of focusing in on that. I mean for the rest of the fiscal year and that's the goal. I mean I and |
| 02:21:46.03 | Unknown | I don't disagree with Council Member Cox, but obviously we need to refresh or finalize what's the next iteration of our |
| 02:21:54.97 | Unknown | strategic plan. |
| 02:21:56.20 | Unknown | you |
| 02:21:56.34 | Unknown | I like rubble. |
| 02:21:58.02 | Amy Howard | We need to reinvent what we did before. Maybe, I don't know. Or think about how we want to move forward. But I absolutely acknowledge that we're going to have a new election. The next, this year is an election year. We're going to have a new city manager. So to the extent that we're going to have a new face of what this government's |
| 02:22:20.03 | Jill Hoffman | going to look like in the next nine months or six months. So what's at those people? |
| 02:22:25.97 | Unknown | on the next strategic plan is what I think of. So, you're like, |
| 02:22:29.46 | Amy Howard | you're okay, not okay, but you're saying it makes sense to you to wait So not your... That's right. |
| 02:22:36.42 | Unknown | Bye. Thank you for that. Let's have that team. spend that effort. |
| 02:22:42.03 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. to what the city would come into fresh and measure |
| 02:22:50.03 | Unknown | what the state is going to look like in Brooklyn. And by the way, if people get elected, with whoever elects them, but when they're elected, they represent the whole city. |
| 02:22:56.97 | Amy Howard | Bye. |
| 02:22:57.31 | Unknown | That's over there. |
| 02:22:57.97 | Amy Howard | have people that elect you but once your duty once you're elected is that you represent everybody and so that's that's your duty going on and the budget that's why that's my interest I mean that's the way I look at it I see the mayor and then Joan and |
| 02:23:11.31 | Steven Woodside | And it's very good. But I also heard you say, I'm sure I heard it correctly. If you agree that as an immediate thing we agree on. |
| 02:23:20.73 | Unknown | 187. |
| 02:23:22.85 | Steven Woodside | move forward. |
| 02:23:23.45 | Unknown | We only have so many dollars. Yeah. We have people come, you heard people this morning. I want you to focus on that. |
| 02:23:25.05 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 02:23:25.08 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:23:25.10 | Amy Howard | Thank you. I want you to focus on that. I want you to focus on that. But I only have so many dollars. And we have big instructor needs And for us as a city council, to articulate, these are our priorities. Thank you so much for coming and telling me that you would like to have this, that, or the other, But we, as an elected council by 5-0, We're saying these are our priorities And this is what we're going to spend. |
| 02:23:52.67 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:23:52.98 | Amy Howard | the very small, this is where I'm spending my M&Ms on for the next year. |
| 02:23:57.60 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:23:57.67 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 02:23:57.97 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:23:58.38 | Amy Howard | And because we want to have excellence in our roads, and we're getting our payment index up. And we voted that way as a council over the years, but sometimes we waiver on that as a council, and that's why we don't have as long roads. |
| 02:24:04.23 | Unknown | else. |
| 02:24:10.63 | Amy Howard | Um, where's more? I think it was Joan next, and then Ian, and I kind of want to tease out something after you before Ian, if you don't mind, if it works out that way, go ahead. I just want to address who should be working on our strategic plan. Jill and I are up for redaction this year. Will has 12 years on the line. I have 18 years of public service. |
| 02:24:29.04 | Joan Cox | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:24:34.15 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:24:34.98 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 02:24:35.05 | Joan Cox | We have institutional knowledge that is so important in understanding where we are, how we got here as part of where should we be going. So I would hate to lose I would hate to have our Because what history repeats itself. I would hate to have our planning for the future not have the benefit of that institutional knowledge. That's one of the reasons I love |
| 02:24:59.97 | Amy Howard | current city manager to participate in that process with the new city manager. And I love- I mean, you didn't make offense. No offense to my president. No, no. I can't. Or here for me. No. I think I see your point. Yeah. Opportunity. |
| 02:25:09.07 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 02:25:10.67 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. |
| 02:25:10.69 | Carolyn Revell | I think I should. Yeah. |
| 02:25:13.77 | Amy Howard | not gonna have. And maybe we'll go to lunch, maybe we'll be reelected, I don't know, but there's a possibility that we wouldn't be. And then you're, you know, It was a challenge for |
| 02:25:27.04 | Joan Cox | Janelle. |
| 02:25:27.65 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 02:25:28.05 | Joan Cox | when she joined the council in the middle of COVID, |
| 02:25:31.49 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 02:25:31.70 | Joan Cox | Do you? |
| 02:25:31.97 | Amy Howard | to get up to, and for Melissa, to three new council members, to get up to speed. So I think that's something to be considered as we think about Timing in terms of revenue. We had a huge discussion two years ago about revenue generating opportunities. We all brainstormed about what they were. The city attorney did some research on whether some of them were viable. I continue we have that as a priority from last year revenue enhancements yeah. |
| 02:26:10.04 | Joan Cox | apply for and obtain new grants, identify programs to drive TOT and sales tax revenue. Thank you. Um, I want to, you know, we heard today about vacancies. I'd love to. |
| 02:26:22.96 | Amy Howard | to impose a commercial vacancy tax. I would love to engage in further revenue generating opportunities. I would love to see a hotel. We thought about putting a hotel over by the, by the, |
| 02:26:37.46 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:26:38.50 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 02:26:38.52 | Joan Cox | near the joinery and we found out that part of our city owned property is constrained |
| 02:26:44.97 | Amy Howard | to where we can't develop it, restrict it, to where we can't use that as part of a boot count. You know, we have to be creative in the way that we identify and carry out |
| 02:26:59.02 | Joan Cox | revenue generating measures to not have the unintended consequences of adversely impacting some of the things that are working. The marineship right now is the working, the workers |
| 02:27:09.98 | Amy Howard | of our finances. And so whatever we decide to do with the Marineship, we have to be respectful of what we have there now. We're not losing it in favor of new development. Okay, so point of order. Go ahead. Go ahead. |
| 02:27:24.56 | Unknown | Just because of the time. |
| 02:27:26.02 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 02:27:27.71 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:27:27.73 | Chris Zapata | I, if we don't ask, is that I agree that it was in the strategic plan where the rice lives. It was one of many, and it actually didn't get a lot of attention to that. So the message I'm trying to pay here this morning is it's the big inch wall. It is the money we should all be thinking about. We're qualified. We haven't been in the nation. And not outsourcing it a little bit, or doing a little bit. It actually is a thing that moves the needle. There's just not enough money to take all the money that's got handed out for us to move the needle by debating what our parties are. Would we do this lease or not that lease or commit this one employee or not is not going to move the needle on whether a PCI is 60 or 61, much less if it's going to be 60 or 80. The only way we're going to ever get to a PCI of 80 is by dramatically increasing the revenue and account. And we're already taxed on that. |
| 02:27:45.58 | Unknown | But I've had to use better medicine. |
| 02:27:56.65 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:27:56.67 | Unknown | Yeah. No good. |
| 02:28:23.65 | Chris Zapata | too hot. I think we should try to contact service. And so the only way out in my view is economic globalization and the learnships are a great example. CP shades. makes clothing in the Marin show. But unlike ceramics, because of ordinance 722, they can't sell their clothing out of their factory store. We don't want to have a factory store. They have to sell their clothing. in Strawberry Village and Mill Valley gets the sales tax. Fishermen can't sell fish off with their fishing boat. |
| 02:28:49.37 | Amy Howard | Yes, sir. |
| 02:28:52.41 | Chris Zapata | Under 1025. |
| 02:28:53.30 | Amy Howard | Actually, I can. I'm afraid to talk about that. |
| 02:28:54.16 | Chris Zapata | I'm ready. There are exceptions for special events, but as we know, |
| 02:28:58.90 | Amy Howard | again. |
| 02:29:01.60 | Chris Zapata | The ordinance 1022 says it in plain writing and the federalization office in fact stability and under grounds and placing other law in the Fjord, the new spot we have here now, wasn't easily approved. It got through the morass of our regulations only because of the event of Anne Holden-Lumner, economic development officer and CDPD director. It wasn't going to open a check case. So we need to really need to figure out economic liberalization in the South so we have more It wasn't an open and check case. So we need to want to have really needed to figure out economic liberalization in this town so we have more economic activity, which then will generate more tax revenue without raising tax rates. |
| 02:29:37.31 | Amy Howard | And that is one approach to it. I hear you wanna talk about Mr. Mayor. |
| 02:29:43.56 | Steven Woodside | I think you were headed where I was headed. We're talking about two things where we agree all five of us. Yeah. We have great infrastructure needs and we lack the fiscal capacity. |
| 02:29:50.15 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:29:57.38 | Steven Woodside | Then we start talking about raising or lowering taxes, repealing 1022 or not. And I have my views on some of those that I know are different than others on the council. We better sort that. But that's the hard part. The easy part, I think you've already agreed on. So it's a goal and it's a gold map. And that debate and the idea of strategies and how do you um you know i just saw an editorial got published about creating a special infrastructure enhancement history a lot of people are interested in that that's something we can actually do sooner than later it'll take that time but it's not doing so let's at least have that conversation sooner than later Joe makes one other good point. We have a lot of people. She makes several. |
| 02:30:52.10 | Unknown | Thank you. I got you. |
| 02:30:55.17 | Steven Woodside | that's, that's, |
| 02:30:55.97 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. |
| 02:30:56.27 | Steven Woodside | I'm getting a little tired. |
| 02:30:58.80 | Amy Howard | Exactly. |
| 02:30:59.04 | Melissa Blaustein | I was just gonna say that. |
| 02:31:00.34 | Steven Woodside | And where are you? |
| 02:31:00.81 | Melissa Blaustein | We are absolutely amazing colleagues. You never have to worry about wordsmithing |
| 02:31:04.99 | Steven Woodside | don't with her. Maybe with others I might. But here's what I like. |
| 02:31:05.01 | Melissa Blaustein | Y'all. Yeah. they might. |
| 02:31:10.63 | Steven Woodside | Yes, we have people in the community who have served previously who have institutional knowledge. We have Council members now who are at the end of a term. Level action coming down. This is going to happen every two weeks. It will happen all the time. So whatever we do, we need to capture as much of the knowledge into the process. That means involving a former council member or making sure the former city manager says, yeah, I'll come back. Just, you know, |
| 02:31:45.90 | Amy Howard | I already asked them. |
| 02:31:46.73 | Steven Woodside | That was a recap. |
| 02:31:48.41 | Amy Howard | Wow, that was too easy, Chris. |
| 02:31:48.55 | Angeline Loeffler | Bye. |
| 02:31:48.78 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:31:48.80 | Angeline Loeffler | Yeah. |
| 02:31:52.04 | Amy Howard | I'm sorry. |
| 02:31:52.09 | Steven Woodside | I don't want to. |
| 02:31:53.24 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 02:31:53.31 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 02:31:54.08 | Angeline Loeffler | Thank you. |
| 02:31:54.17 | Unknown | Thank you guys. |
| 02:31:54.98 | Angeline Loeffler | Thank you. |
| 02:31:55.01 | Amy Howard | Maybe. Well, so, great. Just let me kind of, um, See where we are. There's agreement you want to do this at some point. There's some disagreement about when and I don't know if it's today when you can decide that. Can you decide that by majority direction or whatnot? I think there's also kind of a middle path in there because I heard you say, well, you could have a city manager come back if you hired some new ones. So this is a topic. I want to point out something. that I think it really Good. You're talking about some of those you know, dream is the wrong word, right? Dream is like moving to Italy and having a great, thank you. Well, about for this year, right? And, you know, Anne hammering on that and you talked about infrastructure and they really do relate. I mean, the revenue enhancement and the infrastructure |
| 02:32:40.14 | Angeline Loeffler | Yeah. |
| 02:32:51.14 | Amy Howard | And how can you start really making headway on that, which we'll talk about soon. I do think it's noon. And I know that it's hard for me. So here's a question. Do you guys want to, before we take a break, do you want to try to figure out your timing on this process? Number two, do you want to have a full break so if somebody wants to go outside, they can, or do you want to sit and work through lunch? So if we could decide those two things, and Mr. Mayor, maybe you can start that discussion off. So what I see unfinished before I move on is when, And then how much of a break to your brains meet. Yes, Mr. Mayor. |
| 02:33:36.99 | Steven Woodside | I'll make a suggestion that we bring pretty much an hour from scientists. |
| 02:33:42.13 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. |
| 02:33:43.25 | Steven Woodside | um that we do not have the uh like a full break where we're not talking but maybe the first 20 minutes half hour we eat and just individuals talk and so forth get some fresh air get refreshed and start whenever yeah in period we can get back together |
| 02:34:02.59 | Amy Howard | Yeah, does that work for people? I'm sorry. |
| 02:34:05.45 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:34:06.38 | Amy Howard | 20 minutes, 30 seconds, what do you want? |
| 02:34:08.27 | Steven Woodside | Well, |
| 02:34:08.97 | Unknown | We appreciate it. |
| 02:34:09.86 | Amy Howard | We'll take 20 minutes and then we can resume and |
| 02:34:13.03 | Carolyn Revell | We're stopping. |
| 02:34:13.77 | Amy Howard | Right. I do appreciate, Nina, of course, I do appreciate breaking fully so that sometimes I can't eat during the working lunch. But Ian, how are you? |
| 02:34:13.89 | Carolyn Revell | Right. |
| 02:34:14.45 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. |
| 02:34:14.47 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 02:34:19.78 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. |
| 02:34:19.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:34:20.02 | Melissa Blaustein | Bye. |
| 02:34:21.84 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. So. |
| 02:34:24.74 | Amy Howard | Oh, you were saying yes. So, right, yes. He was saying yes. It's noon. Let's wait for 20 minutes, come back, and if we're not finished, |
| 02:34:32.81 | Unknown | But |
| 02:34:35.97 | Chris Zapata | I think we're starting |
| 02:34:36.81 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:34:36.88 | Chris Zapata | off. |
| 02:34:38.40 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:34:38.41 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 02:34:38.43 | Steven Woodside | Thanks. So if you wanted to make a brief announcement about |
| 02:34:45.99 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:34:46.63 | Brent Moore | Check this out. |
| 02:34:47.64 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:34:47.69 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 02:34:47.71 | Joan Cox | I don't know. |
| 02:34:48.13 | Brent Moore | Thank you. |
| 02:34:48.40 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 02:34:49.48 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 02:34:49.50 | Joan Cox | fancy |
| 02:34:50.04 | Amy Howard | Today's meeting of FCCMC, which was held by his own, It was determined that will be the last MCCNC meeting health guidance. |
| 02:35:00.03 | Joan Cox | all the rep, because it was determined by the county council that it is a round and mini. And so, there's still many opportunities |
| 02:35:09.68 | Unknown | can hear loud and clear. |
| 02:35:10.68 | Joan Cox | It's. |
| 02:35:10.96 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 02:35:11.44 | Joan Cox | by the |
| 02:35:11.98 | Amy Howard | for the meetings around the home. That sort of put Stephanie and Rebecca in the work because they were planning for the February and March meeting. Bye. So I kindly volunteered to meet them for February. Right. And so the February 25th meeting of MCCC will be held at the Spencer. Damon Connelly, they're expected to attend. So I wanted to make sure that you all get that on your calendars and that we welcome them all. Great. It's an optimal balance. It starts at 530 business meeting starts at six. Great. I'll ask about that. |
| 02:35:50.37 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 02:35:51.01 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 02:35:51.02 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:35:55.43 | Steven Woodside | um I'm now going to ask Ken to do my advice. I think we'll all see a little pretty soon. |
| 02:35:57.37 | Joan Cox | I'm going to add. |
| 02:36:04.15 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:36:04.19 | Chris Zapata | Yeah, I'm sorry to say that first time there, it's also, you know, an effort has passed away yesterday. I mean, I had a very good relationship. visiting with her in her home last week. we put that |
| 02:36:17.77 | Unknown | I'm about to go. |
| 02:36:19.65 | Chris Zapata | And I brought her my copy of Claudette's book and I left it with her. And she was a fair taker of the legacy of that book and the spirit will be born and honored and he had a relationship with her that I had. She's 40,000. And she's 40,000 in office. It's a big loss. The community and the big legacy is that she leaves. I'm sorry to debate the sentence. |
| 02:37:05.48 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. I know she really appreciated her longtime friendship. When I first met her when she was the chair of the board of supervisors, And I was, No matter how many. There was a an outlet. that would be a major change in the city. So I had the privilege of going all the way that's where her. chair or on a with under fine side and and that will be so that you were being jeopardy various synagogues and she just was so um um pleasant deal with but a meter and a chance to see her behind the scenes. So. Well, on the council here, mayor. lived in Galilee, Harvard. Very instrumental in the what, 40 year house quote, Lauren? And so a lot of this. And I also want to say something because this last week, Some of you may have heard the news on the past, but Andrew. That her date that one. It's out. And they came to my mind again, the end when you use your and I was even asking why. Yeah, so there was a review volume set up. You'll try to ascertain what happened. There were all these experts that find and all kinds of arguments. Television's climate. I don't know if you know who he is. |
| 02:38:46.36 | Unknown | and find things. |
| 02:38:47.27 | Steven Woodside | Brian, you're going to use on the panel. |
| 02:38:47.30 | Unknown | Right. |
| 02:38:51.11 | Steven Woodside | put something in the last of our hands. for been in place as you have We, Yeah. Napa. Does that make you a problem? Thank you. them. Amen. Frozen will ring. But demonstrate with that. It went. Thank you for bringing that. |
| 02:39:14.67 | Unknown | Thank you. I'm just gonna say, yeah. |
| 02:39:16.02 | Amy Howard | that's been evident. |
| 02:39:17.25 | Steven Woodside | So we're back. |
| 02:39:18.79 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:39:18.81 | Amy Howard | Thanks. All right. Good. Everyone felt better. So when we took our break, we have not, so we had affirmed that yes, this council entered into a strategic planning process. And I Let me give an overview before we address the question of when we do, when you want to do that. I want you to have agreement. I think we can have agreement for consensus. or majority, by the time you need care, that's a good call. But I wanna let you know what's gonna happen You know, a few of you have brought up some big things that you want to address. |
| 02:39:53.35 | SPEAKER_00 | Bye. |
| 02:39:57.00 | Amy Howard | And I want to hear from others if there's big things. But we are going to be spending time on reviewing the future agenda items that are already on your docket because I think it was Ian who said preeminine That's a great question. you know, if you want to do some of the big things, some of the small things may have to, you know, go down priority and, with the future agenda items that you have, And you have to take an honest look of what you think your staff can achieve. Right. And I know a couple of you said this in our phone conversation, that you reach as an industry manager and you're gonna be setting a budget, if you wanna achieve one or two big things, that you talked about today or maybe they're already on your future agenda item but if you want to achieve those things you're going to have to build some capacity for your staff which may mean moving some of those future agenda items off. Not maybe not off, maybe in a parking lot for a while. So that's where we're going to go. So just so I hope you can. No, it's okay. It's my work phone. It's not supposed to be positive yet. |
| 02:41:05.74 | Unknown | Right. |
| 02:41:10.22 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 02:41:10.27 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:41:10.35 | Amy Howard | It's my other work. Your other work from there you go. |
| 02:41:10.40 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:41:10.64 | Unknown | I'm going to go. |
| 02:41:14.96 | Amy Howard | So I do want to... I think it's reasonable for you guys to decide. I think there's a bit of a split. And so, Mr. Mayor, is it a majority decision, consensus decision on when you want to undertake the strategic planning? But I don't think we can spend an hour on this discussion. We can't spend an hour on this discussion. |
| 02:41:36.74 | Steven Woodside | Well, I might prefer whatever we come up with is a to the freehold of all my who had For that reason, I can see He does have a I knew it was eight weeks soon, just thinking we'd love. Thank you. |
| 02:41:54.24 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 02:41:54.70 | Steven Woodside | One, one, we want to plan, I think we are all in |
| 02:42:01.65 | Amy Howard | That I thought of being, yes. |
| 02:42:05.60 | Steven Woodside | Now we're on the |
| 02:42:06.04 | Amy Howard | it went. |
| 02:42:06.53 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. And then rather than pose the second issue of advanced I think Ian brings up What I think, and I agree with them, maybe I think all of us agree. probably the safest that we have to practice. whenever we get to a surgery plan looking at this year's budget, et cetera, is one of those issues That's what Little. for both. And I agree with Ian that that's that should come sooner than later that part Maybe there are others that we can agree on, and we want to think strategically. But what I worry about is trying to start this Overall, for the thing that takes into account a whole range of things and we can debate a lot of those for a long time before we get to the problem so that's how I see as. Or. And I, I hope we can. take what you're saying and make that a priority right now. |
| 02:43:08.26 | Amy Howard | Okay. That will feed into, I believe, the discussion the future agenda items, if you guys Sorry. If, if. We've been. I'm going to. If we have this discussion now and somebody says, I want to get rid of 1022, whatever the big thing is, that then you need to take a strategic look at your future agenda items, right? Because something's gonna go outside. So I think what I hear you say, Mr. Mayor, is Yes, you have a strategic plan, but you could come up with a goal or two now that still require urgent attention this year. I just finished work with the city of Palo Alto and They had 60 priorities last year. And that was not my work and I changed them and I could That's not a priority list. Yeah. Those are tablets, but that's a to-do list, which is awesome. Staff likes the to-do list, I'm sure. |
| 02:44:10.83 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 02:44:15.15 | Amy Howard | But a priority is something that will require focused energy And you know, focused energy with the ability to get it done in a certain amount of time, right? Could you make significant progress? Could you make significant progress in one year on this goal? So maybe, going back to the comment that Ian was talking about, I'm gonna call it revenue enhancement, which may not be your terminology, we'll get to that. But if it's revenue enhancement, that's a big, That's a big thing. And So maybe you make some steps towards it. Right. in the year as a yearly priority. It still maybe gets put into the strategic plan. |
| 02:44:56.93 | Carolyn Revell | you |
| 02:45:02.01 | Amy Howard | So do you see, is that clear that can go parallel paths? Mr. Sobiesti. |
| 02:45:08.15 | Chris Zapata | What you just said, my mind burns. You can have a perfect PDF of the good, but the obvious, to me, you can start simple and we'll be refining over time. I would love, I mean, sooner rather than later, where we use our own knowledge and get staff. And a staff report that shows every idea that could generate a million dollars or more in recurring annual revenue to exist. If it's less than a million, it doesn't make the least. So I believe we're feeling 1022 in my gut is that we're generating where I know it's always wrecking then attorneys from Doc probably would if they're charging more for library book fines, not going to make any difference. So there'll be a whole bunch of ideas there. And That list then will have trade-offs and we decide which of those to pursue. And if it doesn't add up, then I'm picking 10 million and it's going to be a good thing. |
| 02:46:04.72 | Alice Merrill | and |
| 02:46:08.04 | Chris Zapata | whatever the right exercise we go through is I just showed you need about $10 million or more a year. But it's $31. It's a 25% increase in revenue. That's huge. So huge, in fact, that we never even imagined actually seriously trying to do it. But I believe South City does have it. I use capacity to do it. I really have to align with its goals, its community values. It would make it more lively place and it would allow us to solve our problems. I could be wrong. And that's's our choice to go through that. But the staff report would be simple. Here are all the ideas. How do we explore them? Saying the hotel's easy, but how do we explore it? Is it on private land? Is it on public land? How does the city support that investigation? When could it possibly be done? When could it start putting some revenue? It's a technical project, and it is one thing. My mind would be a future agenda idea. It's focused on this role of how much revenue can the city reasonably start to unlock and what timeframe? |
| 02:46:39.55 | Unknown | you |
| 02:47:07.53 | Chris Zapata | and figure out what the steps are like, the roadmap to get |
| 02:47:11.24 | Amy Howard | I see Jill. And I have a comment on that, I, I, Maybe we talk about our ideas, and we're not trying to convince each other yet, because then we can, you know, go ahead. So are, so we're under big goals? Well, so that's actually, I wanted to stick to, you know, |
| 02:47:27.86 | Unknown | Well, |
| 02:47:31.54 | Amy Howard | First of all, To the mayor's point, that they're Yes, we know we want strategic plan, but there may be a big goal or two big goals that we could do this. You could do this here if you then narrow your future. If you think about staff capacity. |
| 02:47:38.61 | Unknown | Uh-huh. |
| 02:47:48.28 | Amy Howard | Yeah. Excuse me. So BAM. Write down your big goal, but I think we need to decide when you're doing the plan so staff can get going on it, right? That would be, Mr. Mayor, is that something that all of you want to know is how or when you're doing your plan? I think that you decide that. Jill and Melissa, did you? Okay, go ahead. Okay. |
| 02:48:12.07 | Angeline Loeffler | I'm not going to go ahead and do the first thing. |
| 02:48:12.33 | Amy Howard | Yeah. OK. I |
| 02:48:15.97 | Unknown | See where I |
| 02:48:17.10 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 02:48:17.14 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:48:17.25 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 02:48:17.34 | Unknown | see where Ian's going and I |
| 02:48:19.67 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:48:20.19 | Unknown | I think, |
| 02:48:20.76 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:48:21.03 | Amy Howard | The idea of increasing, the idea is for increasing revenue in the context of this year. I think that's a worthy discussion. I think that resides and starts with the Finance Committee. And if we're talking about how we're going to increase revenue within this fiscal year, then that resides in this fiscal year. So if we're going to talk about |
| 02:48:47.97 | Jill Hoffman | an ordinance or Especially an ordinance that covers you know |
| 02:48:54.02 | Amy Howard | a whole section of town, not just the Marinship, but 1022 also goes beyond the Marinship. And the nuances of 1022 go beyond the Marinship. |
| 02:49:08.03 | Jill Hoffman | It may be interpreted The interpretation of that is quite complicated. And so that merits a deeper discussion of not just |
| 02:49:18.97 | Amy Howard | increasing revenue. So that's, that's a whole different discussion. So I like the idea, but I'd like the idea of a very specific discussion of how do we increase revenue? Yeah. And the goal of how do we, how do we, what's a quick way to increase revenue in 20, the next fiscal year? I think that's a great discussion. Where are we missing quick opportunities to increase revenue? What are we doing to, you know, not, you know, where are we missing our mark with revenue? There are about five things that come to my mind right now where we're counterproductive in the assets that we have and we're not, we're not firing on those assets the way we should. That's a great start in the finance committee. Bring to us a couple of the five areas where we're not hitting revenue production places where we can start increasing revenue right now and supporting increasing revenue goals and where can our staff help us in excelling in those revenue goals. |
| 02:50:22.97 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:50:23.02 | Unknown | to leave them alone so that they can |
| 02:50:25.28 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:50:25.83 | Unknown | you know, they increase us revenue increasing. |
| 02:50:28.36 | Amy Howard | And that's just an internal review. I think that would be a great exercise. So I want to support that. Okay. And in a way it will So it's a slightly different approach. And it's a important goal. Right, exactly. Melissa. I appreciate that so much of the emphasis is on fiscal sustainability and revenue generation, but they don't want to limit us to only thinking about how we make money as a community in the context of this conversation. I think it's so important when I think about our bigger picture vision and goals. We heard a lot in public comments about wanting to be a hub for waterfront access and variety of different organizations. How do we foster our maritime heritage and become the hub for waterfront? They heard a lot about public art. We used to have the art festival. We don't anymore. How do we fill that void and become a home of art inclusion, art installation? We have an incredible park and rec program with a lot of different programs every year. How do we use that to create and set a goal about what we want our vision for community park and recreation to look like. Because if we limit the conversation to how much money can we make to pay for our roads, which is an important basic thing, we're missing that there are other pockets of our budget that we're also spending anyway and that are important and that's really defying our values of the community beyond just the black and white of the roads. So I just don't want us to leave those pieces up. |
| 02:50:56.13 | Melissa Blaustein | and I think that's a good question. |
| 02:51:54.89 | Amy Howard | And that's sort of, I'm sorry Joan, I mean, it's sort of what I was talking about in the beginning about public. organization versus a private is that like some of these parks and rec programs that you provide don't pay for yourself, right? They don't make a profit, right? That's what I would, I understood what Joe said about value is not always money, but like that, so I understand that I'm relating to that. Joe, you wanted to, yes. In terms of the |
| 02:52:23.11 | Melissa Blaustein | timing for |
| 02:52:23.95 | Amy Howard | strategic plan. Something that was really effective six years ago was including staff. I would also like to include. |
| 02:52:32.03 | Joan Cox | and commissions, just as we did in our general planning process. We heard from every |
| 02:52:40.98 | Amy Howard | We heard from the Planning Commission, Sustainability. I remember Melissa's presentation for the Sustainability Commission. We heard from our various boards and commissions. And we have such a wealth of knowledge and experience there that I'd love to hear from them as part of this strategic planning process. So perhaps we could have a series of smaller meetings as part of putting together our strategic plan. that would include listening to our boards and commissions, listening to our boards and commissions, listening to our staff, and then, you know, putting together the final product. Just another thought so that it's not such a huge undertaking all at one time. It's rather an incremental process that really takes advantage of all of our resources. So that's my thought on strategic plan. And then I wanted to share some of my big picture ideas. Thank you. All up here. |
| 02:53:27.11 | Joan Cox | See you. you |
| 02:53:29.14 | Amy Howard | Um, |
| 02:53:29.16 | Joan Cox | Um, Housing is something that's already underway I would like to include in that conversation water-based housing and increasing the number of live boards in town. That's a revenue-generating concept as well as, you know, ensuring that we don't end up in a no-net-loss situation if one of our existing strategies doesn't come out. Okay. |
| 02:54:00.97 | Amy Howard | I would also love, I heard today what people talked about regarding maritime visitors. I would love to look at welcoming our high value |
| 02:54:13.03 | Joan Cox | of the maritime visitors as an opportunity for increasing revenue. Now that we have cleared our waterfront of anchor outs, we have the opportunity to strategically plan where visitors would more and how we could welcome them and how we could make revenue generating opportunities through that as many waterfront cities do. |
| 02:54:39.96 | Amy Howard | the discussion of the Sausalito Art Festival. Another revenue generating opportunity is to reduce our commercial vacancies, perhaps through a vacancy tax. So Sergio has already done some work on the feasibility of that. It is challenging, but I still, we haven't hit no yet. So I do want to explore that. Another revenue generating opportunity |
| 02:55:05.04 | Joan Cox | is a Prop 218 measure for our storm rates. So right now, we are being sued by various marinas over time for the redding that they have to do |
| 02:55:17.97 | Amy Howard | because we are dumping our hillside lands into the marines and undertaking, |
| 02:55:29.64 | Unknown | This is probably a key. |
| 02:55:30.88 | Joan Cox | Right. it. |
| 02:55:31.72 | Amy Howard | It's their responsibility. We're facing the same thing. We're the coastal city, so we have to take care of Los Angeles. We have to help. And I think that we can is to reduce our risk profile and enhance our service to our marina owners, which we have to |
| 02:55:31.74 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
| 02:55:31.84 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:55:35.75 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:55:35.92 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:55:35.99 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:55:51.16 | Carolyn Revell | you know, |
| 02:55:52.25 | Amy Howard | thousands of slips and also we've been huge. And Prop 218, |
| 02:55:55.97 | Melissa Blaustein | is a way to undertake the repair |
| 02:56:00.96 | Amy Howard | of our storm drains that we know we need having gone on for last year. So that's a way to generate some revenue and reduce |
| 02:56:11.04 | Joan Cox | Thanks, Spence. |
| 02:56:13.53 | Amy Howard | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:56:14.12 | Unknown | No. |
| 02:56:14.60 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 02:56:14.83 | Joan Cox | Thank you. And then NDIFD. The enhanced infrastructure of my ancestors, where we do a public |
| 02:56:22.97 | Amy Howard | partnership with some of our private owners who desperately need infrastructure |
| 02:56:30.04 | Joan Cox | It's a way to enhance our aesthetics, our logistics, and to get state, county funding to help us. |
| 02:56:46.96 | Amy Howard | that begin your afternoon. |
| 02:56:48.40 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:56:48.52 | Amy Howard | in the past. Okay, and I know that's 22 minutes right here, but those are digital, I think, |
| 02:56:55.98 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:56:56.01 | Steven Woodside | very quickly and you know that I have done is then several of those listed in the blank person. Yes, now where it comes from, I also want to be back and some ideas are many may have ideas. Finance committee. |
| 02:57:03.74 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 02:57:12.56 | Steven Woodside | areas. So I'm on board. that we take a look at it, now they're problemizing I don't know. address them all. Yeah. Prioritize. We work with the city manager and staff and say, what are you doing? with. |
| 02:57:31.18 | Amy Howard | Yeah, and I wouldn't answer that yet until we get rid of some of the future, did I? you Yeah. |
| 02:57:37.13 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:57:37.15 | Chris Zapata | I'm enjoying the conversation. Right. Thank you. Go ahead. The threshold is just a million dollars Thank you. interesting to me, but some of these ideas about what Thinking back to what you already started talking about, At one time, we was in Charlie City. Yes, you know, I've got that. Yeah. I've forgotten everything. Yes. I do know. The conversation was around |
| 02:58:09.15 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 02:58:09.16 | Joan Cox | and |
| 02:58:13.68 | Chris Zapata | the instructor self-control locally, when the city gets even elected for the federal housing property transfer tax so we've been committed to which is getting significant from the city and from the company to meet the others. It's what your threshold is. So I just thought that. |
| 02:58:29.75 | Steven Woodside | I love it. Okay, Ruth. as something that some of us made for them and they were Can they respond to a little bit? That's on us. Hopefully it doesn't involve a lot of staff time. There's nothing to look like in the third year. |
| 02:58:44.40 | Amy Howard | Okay, well, let's hear from Alyssa. |
| 02:58:46.51 | Angeline Loeffler | Yes. |
| 02:58:46.93 | Steven Woodside | Yeah, I'm sorry. |
| 02:58:47.72 | Amy Howard | And then I still want to get back to when, but then I want to talk about There's so much great stuff going on. Yes, Martha. like more general big picture ideas things generally just on specifics. Like a recurring theme that we also hear significantly from residents is that our downtown is really struggling and that there are a number of open storefronts in our downtown. And I would really like us to explore a business license tax holiday for all of those businesses and potentially a permitting tax holiday to get new businesses in our downtown. I just really want to put that on the radar or something to be considering. I don't know if you can see it. And then if we're like going into specific things in terms of what we'd like to see, like I just bring it back to the theme of our community. You know, there are there are specific requirements in cities like San Francisco, for example, where everybody building that permanent has to get 1% or 2% to art and purchasing art. And I think that's something that we should do in our strategy for how we think about being an artist. Right, I mean, because then you're getting the revenue. We have that. We have the GARP fund. Yeah, so let me just write that down here. And I'm going to say, I appreciate I'm just gonna, I'm gonna, Shorthanded Public Art Fund. Yeah, that's right. I think this is important because, Ian, as much as I appreciate you saying, let staff come to us and say, here's all the possibilities, I'm pretty sure they didn't send anything to me. it could make their head explode because when you say to me, show me all the possibilities there are, That's an endless effect like that. a hard, do you say what you guys are doing right now? And you may tell them, because I know you don't want to raise taxes, I don't know if you've got majority, but once you start narrowing these things down and you start talking about it, Prop 218, which is really just you know, recovery costs, maybe. Right. then staff has ways to make that happen for you. And they may have more. So that's what I'm hearing here. Can I ask what your stormwater fee is? We don't have them. Okay. That's okay. So ours was $19.99 a year. It was set into, I don't know. |
| 03:01:00.68 | Carolyn Revell | So, |
| 03:01:00.95 | Jill Hoffman | Bye. |
| 03:01:07.78 | Amy Howard | right before Prop 218 came along. We passed it with the voters to 199. Because what happens is burp garthwaite. Yeah, for parcel, because what happens is then the general fund is not encumbered anymore. Okay, yes Ian. |
| 03:01:27.85 | Chris Zapata | just respond to something you said earlier, this notion of the threshold that the city manager is a product that I said, $1 million, I think it's a garden line. You can easily get lost in stuff that doesn't move. That feels like it serves a goal because it's more revenue and it's trivially more revenue compared to the challenge. |
| 03:01:40.15 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:01:49.90 | Chris Zapata | I believe that as a strategy group and as a policy setting group, should have the discipline to focus on ideas, seven figures or one, you know. And so whatever idea we have, I think we should ask staff to do an economic analysis or get within their city manager authority the economic analysis done by a reputable firm, Cosmo, or others, to assess the impact. It's not a million dollars or more. that's not at the city council level, that's the staff level to figure out how to do just like what you need to keep in the body. Here's a big idea today. I'm a business guy, I looked at audience 1022, which was passed at a time when there was a different salient concerning the community. The preample to 1022 is that voters of South Diego find that to reduce, increase the automobile traffic generated by unique developments, The ordinance would prevent or reduce density in commercial and industrial areas. That's reduce commercial and industrial activity. The goal of the ordinance is to keep it the same or make it less. And I'm saying that ordinance passed in the 80s is now hamstringing us and forcing us in a canyon where we have more infrastructure than we would have otherwise. And we have a quieter relationship with less industrial use, less commercial use than we would have if we're free. So I believe we should have on a soon agenda and economic analysis of what potential financial upside would be by not having that ordinance there and returning to the city council the authority to allow or disallow changes in use that are aligning commercial and industrial uses that are very |
| 03:03:41.95 | Amy Howard | Wouldn't you have to take it Can you guys make a change? |
| 03:03:47.07 | Chris Zapata | to the voters. That analysis, we can then decide whether or not |
| 03:03:50.32 | Amy Howard | I've |
| 03:03:50.86 | Chris Zapata | My gut is going to show that that's |
| 03:03:51.24 | Amy Howard | Where are you? |
| 03:03:54.53 | Chris Zapata | David O' Any cool revenue generating and I see a beneficial thing for the community of art. It turns out that giving me a better for the industrial better. David O' I could drop it if it does show that what promises that and I would propose you put it on the ballot for this year. I think that should be a soon agenda. |
| 03:04:11.06 | Amy Howard | Ciao, ciao. |
| 03:04:11.77 | Chris Zapata | But are you sure I heard on the RDAs? |
| 03:04:12.11 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:04:12.16 | Amy Howard | Are you sure? |
| 03:04:12.68 | Jill Hoffman | Bye. Thank you. |
| 03:04:13.14 | Amy Howard | Jo, Jo, sorry. |
| 03:04:14.71 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. But I still had other ideas that didn't just |
| 03:04:16.80 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 03:04:16.90 | Unknown | Can we? |
| 03:04:17.48 | Chris Zapata | that |
| 03:04:17.69 | Amy Howard | But I need to make sure everybody has equal opportunity. And there's a lot of big ideas around. So I'm actually into the public. |
| 03:04:17.71 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:04:22.45 | SPEAKER_00 | And. |
| 03:04:25.27 | Amy Howard | I have to start doing it here so I don't I've run out of room and then I recapture that. Yeah. |
| 03:04:31.28 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:04:31.85 | Amy Howard | I think we have to be |
| 03:04:33.03 | Joan Cox | we have to customize how we address the 2022 because there can be unintended consequences in certain areas of town where it applies, particularly |
| 03:04:41.98 | Amy Howard | historic district, particularly some of our existing residential districts where without 1022, we could see |
| 03:04:50.97 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:04:51.01 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:04:51.02 | Joan Cox | skyscrapers. And so, you know, I think we have to, in addition to analyzing the revenue opportunity, we also have to analyze potential unintended consequences and potential that we have to do literally what's the opportunity and what's the downside in various areas. And I see M. Nari who said yes. So this is a very important. and what's the downside in various areas. And I think I see him not even said yes. So this is a very important analysis, but it is very potential to be far-reaching, and so we have to be cautious in the way that we undertake it and in the way that we... remain transparent and publicize it to the public so that one |
| 03:05:36.03 | Amy Howard | the time comes for a vote, our public is fully informal. |
| 03:05:40.16 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, same. I mean, it's a complicated |
| 03:05:40.77 | Amy Howard | same. ORDINANCE. |
| 03:05:44.97 | Jill Hoffman | Now I know that people are, some people misread it and misunderstand what it actually says in 10.22 and misunderstand. sometimes what they think are prohibitions in 10.3, especially the way that it applies in different, different areas of town. And over like |
| 03:06:05.97 | Amy Howard | in those different areas of town because it |
| 03:06:08.02 | Jill Hoffman | It covers |
| 03:06:09.29 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:06:09.36 | Jill Hoffman | a lot. |
| 03:06:09.97 | Amy Howard | And by the way, it's not on the agenda today to talk about 1022. So if we're gonna, I don't think we should delve deeply into that ordinance today. There's a lot of people are gonna wanna talk |
| 03:06:23.03 | Jill Hoffman | about that ordinance and how it applies in the air. I don't think we should go too much more into that today. |
| 03:06:31.16 | Amy Howard | But Mr. Mayor, John, sorry. Well, keep going. OK, all right. So it's just just to say that it would require going to the ballot. One way would be to get the. |
| 03:06:34.38 | Jill Hoffman | about. |
| 03:06:34.67 | Angeline Loeffler | Okay. |
| 03:06:35.01 | Jill Hoffman | All right, fine job. |
| 03:06:42.03 | Jill Hoffman | you know, citizens' signatures on the ballot, and the other way would be, you know, for the council to fill in the ballot, and then just have voters vote on it. So, I mean, we can't wait to use the magic wand and have the council make it go away. |
| 03:06:54.23 | Amy Howard | Right, but you've sort of discussed it, and in your discussions today, I don't think |
| 03:06:55.98 | Jill Hoffman | and |
| 03:06:59.19 | Amy Howard | I think that If this were one of the big projects that are decided on, right, and there's still a bunch up there, right? But if this is one of the revenue things you want to look at, you'd be asking staff to study it. And then the residents would know. I think you're right. You have to be so transparent. The aspect of that is, what's the revenue that we get from sales tax out of the industry, from the marine ship and maritime businesses is quite more significant than we would get from housing. And the infrastructure of the city would have to build from housing. The tax revenue from industry, from high-dollar manufacturing down there is quite Larger than we would get on the return from investment from condos and housing and so. That has to go into it. |
| 03:07:46.57 | Jill Hoffman | that |
| 03:07:50.08 | Amy Howard | Landowners down there that have been waiting for, you know, and letting land lapse because they're waiting to build condos has been a problem. And that we haven't, the city hasn't leaned in and, you know, strategically said we're going to, you know, zone this. industrial period. and has made that commitment to the working waterfront has been a problem. And that's had the unfortunate effect of leaving a question mark. You know, that all they say that play into the decision. Yeah, we need, you know, some affirmative action probably in the city to say, no, this is working waterfront, it's going to remain working waterfront, and we need strategic partners to come in and to build |
| 03:08:21.62 | SPEAKER_00 | Yeah. |
| 03:08:33.18 | Amy Howard | high-end manufacturing. you know, maritime manufacturing. Which is one approach, but it might not be. |
| 03:08:37.67 | Jill Hoffman | Take it. |
| 03:08:37.98 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. It might not be. |
| 03:08:41.30 | Amy Howard | Yeah, to Ian's point, the return on investment for that decision would be... significant for the sales tax and the return to Sausage Hill from that endeavor as opposed to presidential. Mr. Mayor. |
| 03:08:58.09 | Steven Woodside | that. on the future agenda item was fish. Or going to my enter the number one thing is under housing i'm not sure about the label the phrase number one reimagining the engine it's a big deal the controversy, no matter what reason. It is a big mission for a lot of reasons. preserving the working waterfront through mechanisms that might preserve it for everyone. Is it an item that I'm interested in? No one else will. |
| 03:09:34.02 | Chris Zapata | One correction, it's under strategic vision. |
| 03:09:34.88 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:09:36.80 | Chris Zapata | Oh, yeah. |
| 03:09:36.97 | Steven Woodside | I was amazed I have an earlier version. Yeah. I do. My chains are. Thank you. |
| 03:09:39.15 | Chris Zapata | Yeah. |
| 03:09:39.22 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 03:09:39.26 | Chris Zapata | and |
| 03:09:40.72 | Amy Howard | I don't know. Let me, I'm gonna, oh sorry, go ahead. |
| 03:09:43.75 | Steven Woodside | Yeah, I think while we can go into a little bit of depth now, to appreciate some of our And. So. Is. not. with a very Ian's point, though, I think 1022 is in that million dollar category. the reasons related to where it can be developed I'm not thinking of his house, but for example, spelling recap. out of the day. |
| 03:10:11.31 | Unknown | of |
| 03:10:14.18 | Steven Woodside | You know, you've got some restraints that do not change the nature of the basic things, but make it harder for them. That's just my view. This is worth a very important discussion. I don't know when it happens. I don't know when it happens. I think it's too much for our staff figuring it all out right now. That's not a criticism of staff. And lastly, we haven't asked Sergio anything, and you get to show how well prepared you are. My sense is that 10-22, we were trying to put it to repeal Well, Thank you. I think they're safer issues. |
| 03:11:03.44 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:11:04.03 | Steven Woodside | Am I right? in. Depending on what the nature of the vector is, it potentially gets fixed. |
| 03:11:12.74 | Brandon Phipps | The headline. |
| 03:11:13.66 | Steven Woodside | exactly what, how you guys addressed it. So the complexity of how is one complexity. Then turns his time from getting it done. put on the ballot this November. We had a hard time getting it after a day off. And they were already reviewed under C. And I will just comment out of the items that are on that board right now. Off the top of my head, three of them require voter approval, Charter City 10.2 Vegas tax. |
| 03:11:44.68 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:11:44.83 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:11:44.97 | Unknown | I'm not sure. |
| 03:11:45.03 | Steven Woodside | up. The stormwater feeding issue either will require a Prop 218 owner Thank you. uh, protest. Although, you know, there is the city of Sweeney's decision and there is some open questions about whether or not the provision of |
| 03:11:55.14 | Unknown | I'll... |
| 03:12:07.14 | Steven Woodside | I'm basically the changes to the Prop 13 Honour Bus Act of SB 231 |
| 03:12:15.88 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:12:16.00 | Steven Woodside | you So I don't know how many public agencies, if any, have decided to keep going to protest. process versus putting stormwater taxes on the fallout voter approval. |
| 03:12:27.75 | Amy Howard | We had a challenge. We might have had a challenge between us. |
| 03:12:32.08 | Steven Woodside | and |
| 03:12:33.33 | Amy Howard | I've been wanting to do this since 2016, and I purposely held off to allow it to get sorted out in the courts. I didn't want Sausalito to be in the test case. Thank you. |
| 03:12:45.28 | Steven Woodside | So if I can just make a suggestion, I'm not of. Ray one questions about the luxury and I don't in Pittsburgh. I know we have questions for the purpose of not doing it. It's for the purpose of helping us evaluate What can be done when? how much time we face. Yeah. More complex. uh, It's going to be hard to say we can get them done this year. And what I will say is to the Out of the things that require voter approval, the Charter City issue requires voter approval on a general municipal election. So 26 or 28. |
| 03:13:23.28 | SPEAKER_00 | 26. |
| 03:13:25.52 | Steven Woodside | So I'm going to see it right now. Don't you're interested in that topic, whether you're still here or not, But where it is together. Yeah, but we're not going to do it. We can. which is we have- |
| 03:13:38.25 | Amy Howard | just having a conversation. I want to capture it, but as a future open item. |
| 03:13:44.27 | Steven Woodside | And your open item. It's not going to be done this year. Right. We're not talking about the charter like that. Um, very first thing that was Yeah. Here's your phone call. And the transfer tax. Transfer tax possibility which doesn't guarantee that we're adopted by the These are things that are, |
| 03:14:05.60 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Or control over housing. The extent is to be determined as it keeps evolving, but important to consider |
| 03:14:12.35 | Steven Woodside | I think it's a good step. But that's it. I know, you know, like if you were interested in exploring it, I think we don't have the capacity this year. And you're rolling your eyes appropriately. |
| 03:14:12.45 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:14:27.51 | Amy Howard | Okay, so, I think this is great because OK, and he's been patient. He has so sorry I've been looking over here and my apologies. House members have been |
| 03:14:34.22 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 03:14:34.44 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:14:34.46 | Joan Cox | I'm just gonna go separate. |
| 03:14:35.15 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:14:38.97 | Chris Zapata | to the question of the SEPA requirement for Appeal 1022, I believe the case is if any of the zoning was changed, that would be the case. But if 1022 is repealed and the zoning map is 10%, then there's no changing zone. All the notices in the city council like it has authority in other parts of town. people of the bush. And so they're, Thank you. There's no sequence in that case. |
| 03:15:03.57 | Steven Woodside | I think if you put a measure on the ballot that says that, you know, voter approval for further zoning changes are no longer required under 1022, that sort of measure probably would not require CQO. Now, obviously, the council's going to need to think about strategically whether it makes sense to put that kind of measure on the ballot. I believe it takes. |
| 03:15:20.29 | Chris Zapata | Sure, but just to be clear about the step towards the future. All this does is allow the regular process that the city council has authority on and other parts of town to be engaged with, with all the bells and whistles, city plan analysis, city IRs, public hearings, planning commission reviews, public comment, public protests, for any changes. And so I think this is the key. The appeal to 1022, without changing the underlying zoning, changes nothing. It is 100% industrial commercial. It does not allow any housing in the friendship. But that's what they're trying out for. |
| 03:15:54.04 | Amy Howard | But that's good. Thank you. |
| 03:15:55.95 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 03:15:56.03 | Amy Howard | But if it's confined to temperature, |
| 03:15:57.97 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 03:15:58.34 | Chris Zapata | Okay, just let's talk about the partnership. And so my point is, Uh, You know, in the long run, we're all dead. We can get started on this with a meaningful step that elevates the discussion and the engagement. It's not the whole enchilada. It's not changing any zoning or allowing anything that isn't currently allowed the merchant. I know if all it simply does, it's a step to a second on the liberalization. And this is big. |
| 03:16:24.13 | Amy Howard | And so to the point I think I made earlier, I don't think you're voting, I would be careful to Jill's point, you know, you would want a lot, you would want everybody to know you're talking about this because there's a reason, a significant number of people, you know, may disagree and so you need to hear from that. I think it's great to talk, this is important. I mean, we've talked about it, I know I've talked about it with others of you and, but I caution against lobbying to do something here rather than come to a full council meeting, etc. |
| 03:17:04.56 | Unknown | I don't remember hearing about the church I had. |
| 03:17:07.08 | Amy Howard | Well, we sort of are, but to me it felt like, you know, you're kind of trying to wrap it up. It involved |
| 03:17:10.57 | Unknown | I think. |
| 03:17:14.49 | Unknown | Sorry, I felt that way. I thought anyone got that impression. I thought we were debating on what's going to be on the future. |
| 03:17:18.00 | Amy Howard | They might not have. Yeah, and I'm going to look at this list I mean, I think it's... Did I not compromise? No, no, no, no. |
| 03:17:28.19 | Carolyn Revell | No, no, no, we don't. Thank you. I thought he had other things. |
| 03:17:30.97 | Chris Zapata | The other big. Thank you. I think we're moving. So, is the. I mean, the. Is a community to develop and green up a strategy for that. wish we were the federal government. Right who could print money? That's a great way to take care of your debts. The debt in the United States is something like $30 trillion. Theoretically, you can correct the $30 trillion bill and take care of these debts. We can't do that as a state or as a state. But we actually can create value. You see, the council can literally create money out of debt. How can we do that? The one power we have is by changing zones. If you upzone the private property owner's property, you basically give value to that property owner. So if you change it from one zoning to another, use X to a higher use. The properties work more like properties we just rezone to measure J, are worth more today than before we pass measure. And did the city get a dollar for that? No. What we did is we achieved another community goal, which was meeting our LENA number and rezoning property. But there would have been another approach. or at least a parallel approach to that whole thing. which is using the community development agreement to only upzone properties if the community, the city got back something particular about it. It could be fixing a storm drain next to the property. a donation to a community land trust used for affordable housing or for maritime trust that was preserved on working waterfalls. If we created a policy and the intelligence of our lawyers and our staff, Partially. Basically, you have an office where a private property owner would come and say, hey, I would like to upzone my property. And there would be an opportunity for negotiation, like we can negotiate our lease, for reductionist needs to get back in exchange for that upzone. We can literally create value. So what I'm trying to think of how to solve this big $250 million demand for an AWS city, I can't ignore the possibility that if we had this community development agreement approach, we could get meaningful cash equivalents in terms of development agreement benefits to the broader community. If we divide them. |
| 03:19:52.18 | Amy Howard | May I ask a clarifying question? We, believe it or not, have never had developer fees. And so we are in my city are entering into discussions on do we have developer fees? And because of what's going on in the state with housing, we cannot limit that discussion to multifamily residences. It has to be for single families as well. Is that similar to what you're talking about? |
| 03:20:15.62 | Chris Zapata | at some much bigger, for instance, There would be a desire in town to have a community center or a saltwater pool. |
| 03:20:21.12 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:20:21.16 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 03:20:21.17 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:20:21.44 | Chris Zapata | you |
| 03:20:21.49 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:20:21.58 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:20:21.61 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. Those things maybe could be a contribution of a property owner if they were getting their property up. So it was part of the community development agreement. |
| 03:20:32.34 | Amy Howard | Something for you to discuss. I mean, yes, Jones. |
| 03:20:34.86 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. to do. Yeah, and I'm saying when I privatize like a higher, some of these things would otherwise pay cash for. Sewer fixes, road improvements, sea level rise, |
| 03:20:44.78 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:20:47.78 | Chris Zapata | those could be part of an approach. It would be a completely new way of doing business. So I'm advocating for some thoughts. |
| 03:20:53.12 | Amy Howard | some thought. a lot of gel than the mayor. And this is just, this is to build on something that is |
| 03:20:59.31 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:20:59.90 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:21:00.04 | Jill Hoffman | Ian just said, and actually an initiative, I think that's already underway for me and that's the Measure J sites, |
| 03:21:09.98 | Amy Howard | Right. |
| 03:21:11.04 | Unknown | in the marine ship principally, right? We've already rezoned. And so those are, I think it's 12 sites in the marine ship, 400 units. |
| 03:21:21.03 | Amy Howard | I meant to say earlier, which is an initiative for this year, which is to accelerate housing that we've already resumed, right? So this is something we've already done in the marine ship. We already resumed it. It's within steps of the working waterfront, right? So it's something we've already done in good faith. We've already started that. So I think that's a goal I meant to say earlier, which is accelerate housing, that housing initiative in the Moran ship. And to Ian's point, community development agreement, right? |
| 03:21:55.03 | Unknown | how do we accelerate that, right? Like that's 400 units and that's a hard initiative. |
| 03:22:01.97 | Amy Howard | Oscillator has already, we've already supported that, right? So when people come to us and say, well, what about the marineship? Let's do housing in the marineship. Well, we already have done it, and significant housing in the marineship. And so, and it's only 400 units at a minimum, right? Like there's already, you know, potential density bonus. Right, density bonus to more. And so what do we, what can we do to support that through community development agreements, through other... I'm excited to see what the Mayor and Council Member Cross are going to come back to us with on supporting those efforts. |
| 03:22:40.97 | Jill Hoffman | and building community through those efforts, through those continuous lots, because they're all next to each other. Yeah. |
| 03:22:48.97 | Amy Howard | So anyway, yes, Mr. Mayor, just to rip on what |
| 03:22:51.60 | Unknown | So just like. |
| 03:22:53.77 | Amy Howard | I HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER OR IAN WAS IN. We're talking about a first name, right? Yes, except for the mayor. No, no. I go back to it. I'm a terrible, I'm not. |
| 03:22:56.73 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:22:56.96 | Unknown | I'm sorry. Oh, no. |
| 03:23:00.62 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:23:04.47 | Unknown | So, |
| 03:23:04.84 | Unknown | you Thank you. |
| 03:23:06.02 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 03:23:06.30 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 03:23:07.54 | Amy Howard | you |
| 03:23:07.59 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:23:07.66 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:23:10.40 | Unknown | I think. |
| 03:23:11.61 | Steven Woodside | Very, yes. you |
| 03:23:14.31 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 03:23:14.33 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 03:23:15.73 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:23:16.17 | Steven Woodside | Okay. and cutting it toward development. And that the approval of somebody's game. was voter repealing that portion you want to do that for the boy. |
| 03:23:29.55 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 03:23:30.04 | Steven Woodside | So there's a basic point. is is a repeal and wanting to not necessarily exactly as in private because we don't know how we structure from there etc i think is a standalone issue to think about And then the community development. I agree, and I approve. I think we have ordinance that may make it pretty hard to do or easy depending on things. And development agreements already, there is a process that exists under state law for development agreements regulated by state law. The city has an important ordinance. Um, The big issue that I see with the development agreement strategy. as an uncivilized council member. is as he, I think, rightly said If you upzone and you create value, scrap balance. back with the city on the development. Now the big issue is, Typically, create value, that means that the person who is coming to you Must not have the right to do that already. So if the zoning already allows what they want, They don't need a development agreement to move forward. You can't extract anything. They just apply for a permit. The city has the permit. So you're thinking that's a good deal? It's a bit, you can't, |
| 03:24:47.88 | SPEAKER_00 | that the data is not going to be |
| 03:24:49.69 | Steven Woodside | You can't control the development agreement out of developer who has the right to do what |
| 03:24:55.36 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:24:55.39 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:24:55.41 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:24:55.46 | Steven Woodside | Bye. |
| 03:24:55.53 | Joan Cox | You can, but you could streamline, for example. |
| 03:24:55.65 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:24:57.23 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:24:59.75 | Joan Cox | You can in our LOI with Grangeway Marine and he provided with whatever provisions to streamline the process he would otherwise the permitting and other process he would otherwise have to undertake. as a one-stop that creates value and that's |
| 03:25:13.28 | Steven Woodside | Yeah, I agree. |
| 03:25:14.09 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:25:15.86 | Steven Woodside | And that creates value, another thing you can give something that creates value is a free development regulations. So that's another reason people can develop libraries. In terms of the concept of upzoning, that is usually the place where the most value is created, and that allows the city to capture the most fat in terms of clean fat business. |
| 03:25:33.88 | Amy Howard | And what Ian is referring to is not just the 400, that unit, so please referring to The 11. |
| 03:25:41.04 | Joan Cox | property. |
| 03:25:41.61 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:25:41.85 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:25:42.29 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:25:42.32 | Joan Cox | The future, you know, change and collaborating in the up-to-date efforts for property. |
| 03:25:52.09 | Unknown | I think we should have a link to the main part of the one. I can thankfully see the working waterfront. But there's only 250 acres in the branch here that we could professionally upload with different commercial means. |
| 03:26:04.02 | Chris Zapata | use to housing, just a different FAR. Just a different second floor use. It cannot be some, I'm not talking about housing, talking just about all these restrictions in FED 22, and we are specifying |
| 03:26:14.98 | Unknown | 0.4. What if it was 0.8? |
| 03:26:15.83 | Chris Zapata | Yeah. |
| 03:26:15.92 | Steven Woodside | for the If I may. Sorry. Probably. |
| 03:26:19.40 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 03:26:20.17 | Amy Howard | Just try, but keep going. |
| 03:26:21.71 | Steven Woodside | There, With development agreements, you got basically two categories of uses that that this comes into. Housing uses and non-housing uses. With housing uses, development agreements were challenging because state law already provided housing developers so much in the form of density bonuses, et cetera. |
| 03:26:40.14 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 03:26:40.51 | Steven Woodside | So they may not need you to get what they want because they get benefits in their state law. For non-housing uses, this is your commercial industry. Well, you can't necessarily upzone because of ordinance 1022, can't create the value. |
| 03:26:47.07 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:26:56.94 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. that they would want to come to you for. in order to negotiate their own. So bingo. |
| 03:27:04.49 | Unknown | Okay. Um, |
| 03:27:06.29 | Steven Woodside | Can I just say this is the kind of discussion that we should be able to have more of and more people. I'm worried too much, that's all. |
| 03:27:17.40 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 03:27:19.17 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 03:27:19.54 | Joan Cox | We only have an hour left. |
| 03:27:20.18 | Amy Howard | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:27:21.65 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:27:21.90 | Amy Howard | I can't. |
| 03:27:22.04 | Joan Cox | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:27:22.07 | Steven Woodside | while streaming onto them. |
| 03:27:23.60 | Amy Howard | Yeah, so to that end, Chris, were you going to start? Were you going to say, Amy, please, please talk about future gender? I don't know. |
| 03:27:30.84 | Unknown | Thank you. Yeah. |
| 03:27:31.13 | Unknown | Good night. Thank you. |
| 03:27:32.03 | Amy Howard | Thank you. So I'm going to take another picture. I had envisioned maybe I could you know, get us down to three goals. I'm not sure I can, Um, But I think this is, I mean, what I see is actually So we still haven't answered the question of when. And I'd still love to try to get that. However, and maybe we'll talk about that in next steps, Um, I see a lot of strategic planning items here, right? that can't all get done now, but these ideas should not be lost from your strategic plan. It does seem to me like, I'm going to call it revenue enhancement. Let's call it maximizing assets. Let's call it, you know, the why doesn't matter. You know, like, is it for housing? Is it for schools? Is it for art? But when you start to talk about your strategic plan, And it feels to me like one of your goals has to be, you know, you're trying to preserve this history et cetera, but you know, looking forward to aspirationally, how do you, You have the right amount of funding. So I am going to, Move the question of one to the strategic plan to the end. I'm going to erase all of this if I've captured because we have to talk about future agenda items. So I have a slide. Um, For me to say. Let's, uh, Okay, keep, we're so excited. Let's keep going. future agenda items. Now this slide here is only to show you're, We're not going to discuss this. but I just wanted to show you Your city manager on the left kind of grouped some of the future agenda items into these areas. And then I put up your strategic goals from 2020-26 to see if there's any alignment. This was me thinking I was working with average and I forget. how bright you all are. So we're gonna move on to this Uh, Okay, next slide. |
| 03:29:51.73 | Amy Howard | Now, we are not gonna work from this because it's too small. Right, I see everybody. I... I have a page in our packet. You have a page in your packet. And I was thinking that we would go group by group But if you'd rather look holistically, we can do that too, because I have moved by grouping area. |
| 03:30:09.82 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. |
| 03:30:09.91 | Unknown | be. |
| 03:30:10.26 | SPEAKER_00 | Yeah. |
| 03:30:10.97 | Amy Howard | So for the public, I think it's equal about 17 or I forget the number. No, no more net. Sorry, it's 30 altogether. |
| 03:30:16.52 | Unknown | that number. |
| 03:30:20.71 | Amy Howard | Good Lord. Okay. Yay. Aspirational. |
| 03:30:21.50 | Melissa Blaustein | I'll see you next time. |
| 03:30:21.53 | Angeline Loeffler | Okay. |
| 03:30:22.26 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:30:22.30 | Angeline Loeffler | that. |
| 03:30:24.76 | Amy Howard | So let's go to the next slide, and we're going to start there. I want you, I'm going to leave these on the blue up here, so you can see these big priorities None of these things, I wanna say, none of these babies are bad babies. You're not throwing amounts of bathwater, okay? But you may wanna put them Yeah. I would suggest putting them in the parking lot, unless you really don't agree with them. But are there any on this slide that say, yeah, we got to keep this in there, right? Because what we're going to try to do If, make some stuff capacity so they can do one of these or two of these big ideas. So how does it mean for this 30? What do we need to reduce it down to? What's the goal? That's a great question. |
| 03:31:14.78 | Steven Woodside | um O'Alto had invited sex. |
| 03:31:16.87 | Amy Howard | 60. No, there's no. |
| 03:31:17.46 | Steven Woodside | No, there's no. |
| 03:31:19.85 | Amy Howard | I got them down from that. And they said they didn't do it all in one day. And so here's the thing. I guess I want you to understand, well, Here, let's go. I'm gonna answer that in a minute. Because if you look at this, on a big round here. Right? If you look at revisit business license tax, that the tax holiday, right, or that topic. Um, Formula retail could be under support struggling downtown as well. Commercial vacancy taxes on the island. Commercial vacancy taxes on there. Approval of potential impact fees for new construction. that's development fees, it's not development agreement, but it is development fees, So, We could. So you could look at these items up here. that we just wrote down, these items in blue. There's nothing, there's nothing like, What I'm trying to say is if you took all these on |
| 03:32:21.08 | Jill Hoffman | to be able to get the |
| 03:32:21.60 | Amy Howard | I'm sorry, if you took all those off and picked one of those, or two of them. Like we can't leave these things on here and then keep going. Yes, Ms. May. |
| 03:32:33.14 | Steven Woodside | Well, there's one for example, where we've worked on formula retail, |
| 03:32:38.27 | Amy Howard | Yeah, well, well, process. Okay, so who's going to keep track of that? Maybe because I'll put it up here. |
| 03:32:38.71 | Steven Woodside | It's working well in process. Take it off. I'm going to take that off. |
| 03:32:47.98 | Steven Woodside | is John who keeps tracking. We're keeping track. |
| 03:32:50.02 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:32:51.13 | Amy Howard | . Thank you. |
| 03:32:52.15 | Steven Woodside | Go ahead. |
| 03:32:53.11 | Amy Howard | Okay, that's good. |
| 03:32:54.96 | Steven Woodside | Am I right? you're not going to be able to do it. |
| 03:32:56.30 | Amy Howard | This is me being the scribe for his agenda meeting. Well, you're it. |
| 03:33:00.60 | Steven Woodside | Well, you're a dentist. |
| 03:33:01.90 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:33:02.08 | Amy Howard | Let me say it this way. We don't have to, I misspoke and I apologize. |
| 03:33:02.27 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:33:06.42 | Unknown | All right, you're good. |
| 03:33:07.20 | Amy Howard | No, I'm not so afraid, Stephen. It's usually it's this time of day when I start to get a little Punchy. We don't have to take these off unless there's someone that's in process or you want to come off. But you have to decide what's more important or what is the most important. |
| 03:33:23.01 | Steven Woodside | Okay, I will take another one off because I believe the concept of annual reporting. is going to be addressed by the Finance Committee as a question. If you don't have an answer yet, then we'll bring it back as a finance team. And there are people not in this room who I think I will invite to real experts in that kind of reporting, how it relates to the bond market and our financial status, etc. And bring that back to the council. We will do that. of that. You're smiling. |
| 03:34:00.20 | Amy Howard | Yeah, Brian, who is a a huge cemetery district. that does both an annual audit and an app. |
| 03:34:12.22 | Steven Woodside | They do it annually. |
| 03:34:13.43 | Amy Howard | We do both. And they do. And they have for now. |
| 03:34:17.03 | Joan Cox | It's a lot to do. |
| 03:34:17.65 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:34:19.19 | Joan Cox | And I would love to have the Hermann's committee Thank you. about the utility of that and why they choose to invest the time and energy to do that. Thank you. |
| 03:34:31.37 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. The idea then of doing it. So. is different. Then when will we do your person? Yes, I agree. Because you've done it in the past. |
| 03:34:39.64 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:34:39.94 | Unknown | No. |
| 03:34:43.91 | Steven Woodside | after COVID and with changes in staff, I think they asked a new one right now. We put a version on. I agree for this year. |
| 03:34:52.95 | Amy Howard | So take the comprehensive financial report off of the future agenda items, and yet it is being examined in your finance. |
| 03:34:53.14 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 03:34:53.21 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:35:00.44 | Steven Woodside | We'll bring back something that we can... |
| 03:35:02.37 | Amy Howard | I'm creating a list called In Process. Formula V channel. Yes, that's true. I'm just doing this, but I appreciate it. This is for mine. |
| 03:35:07.11 | Steven Woodside | Bye. |
| 03:35:11.40 | Amy Howard | So that's good. These are in process. So they don't have to be on a future agenda item, But keep in mind, the same process of still involving staff Right. So just because it's not on your agenda doesn't mean it's not taking the time. So that's actually important. That's an important point. |
| 03:35:25.15 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. |
| 03:35:25.18 | Carolyn Revell | Yeah. |
| 03:35:25.59 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. |
| 03:35:29.15 | Amy Howard | I certainly love it when you, okay. Jill, did you have a race? I don't. So let me just with regard to the Act for a Mercy |
| 03:35:38.97 | Unknown | audit versus both. I thought, I think the idea was that we were going to transition from just from audit to after this year. So you wouldn't, there, I mean, |
| 03:35:51.97 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 03:35:52.03 | Unknown | the adverse system. |
| 03:35:52.98 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:35:53.03 | Unknown | more into |
| 03:35:53.97 | Amy Howard | and sort of An audit is a subset of an act. Right, so you wouldn't do both. Because you get the audit with the ACROR. It's just that the ACROR is just a more intensive |
| 03:36:03.12 | Steven Woodside | you don't really play with Hagsburg without having fun. |
| 03:36:05.82 | Unknown | Right. |
| 03:36:06.22 | Steven Woodside | The audit is an independent audit. So the actor is written by somebody else, including heavy involvement. |
| 03:36:08.01 | Unknown | I'm going to go. Yeah, I agree. |
| 03:36:14.85 | Unknown | Yeah. Right. But it's somebody |
| 03:36:16.97 | Amy Howard | else if you want to. |
| 03:36:18.04 | Jill Hoffman | But it is an audit, it's just a very intensive audit. And you get a whole lot more information about it. Well, Sure. |
| 03:36:28.18 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:36:28.65 | Steven Woodside | Oh, no, that is not a bomb. |
| 03:36:30.35 | Amy Howard | All right. |
| 03:36:31.84 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:36:31.86 | Amy Howard | I know it's not, but it's more of an audit. It's more than an audit. It's much more than an audit. |
| 03:36:35.06 | Steven Woodside | More than that. |
| 03:36:36.30 | Jill Hoffman | And, |
| 03:36:36.36 | Steven Woodside | It's very much for us. |
| 03:36:37.53 | Amy Howard | Yeah. But so an audit is what it is. It's snapshot of where you are at that moment. But that's why we were talking about why we wanted to go back to an act. Because you get so much more information from it. And I'm sorry I called it a Capricorn because it used to be called that. But there's people who don't like that back in. And that's why they think. No, but what I hear, I don't think they're taking it off. And I know that you have your hand raised. |
| 03:36:55.30 | Carolyn Revell | Yeah. |
| 03:36:55.58 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:36:55.63 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. |
| 03:36:56.82 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 03:37:02.55 | Amy Howard | I think what they're saying is But this is a good kind of transition back to the ACPR Right, the staff is saying they can't do that this year. There's just not a different consultant. It's much more staff. I will tell you at least from our city |
| 03:37:13.83 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 03:37:14.36 | SPEAKER_00 | . |
| 03:37:19.11 | Amy Howard | It's huge stuff, it's a staff office. Yeah. |
| 03:37:24.42 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:37:26.57 | Amy Howard | I mean, do I have to put you on the spot? Or do you not want me to? It's okay. Go ahead. |
| 03:37:32.73 | Unknown | Go ahead, Michelle. Yeah, okay. It was a two-year budget process. That's a week. That's a week. |
| 03:37:38.82 | Jill Hoffman | That's what we used to do. |
| 03:37:40.96 | Unknown | here. |
| 03:37:41.35 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. for 100 years going forward from next budget, not this budget, and then we have the time to do it. if you modify in your budget as the application |
| 03:37:57.25 | Steven Woodside | is really a part of the past. I think we're in agreement. Most of us don't see a downside to it. We're ever going to go to. the bond market, et cetera, is essential. So helpful, yes. |
| 03:38:12.13 | Amy Howard | Thank you. So I think what I'm hearing is You could do you there's agreement to do it. The financial community is looking at it, but the goal would be for the 26, 27, the end of that you would have your app in place. |
| 03:38:29.88 | Unknown | I think it's a question. |
| 03:38:31.47 | Amy Howard | Let's talk to this. |
| 03:38:32.85 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:38:32.93 | Steven Woodside | you want to look at it and you figure out There is a maintenance in their state. Some are better than others. So what the standard should we how we go about doing |
| 03:38:42.28 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 03:38:46.01 | Chris Zapata | And even when we hired to smoke them, they need staff. Thank you. |
| 03:38:48.88 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 03:38:49.25 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:38:49.56 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:38:49.57 | Chris Zapata | Yeah. |
| 03:38:49.94 | Amy Howard | Thank you. Thank you. They're embedded. It's a really, yeah. And you. Did you have some of your things? |
| 03:38:56.58 | Unknown | But yeah, I think you're going around. still talking about our into agenda item. |
| 03:39:03.16 | Chris Zapata | on whether or not- |
| 03:39:03.73 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:39:03.75 | Unknown | I ENTER BECAUSE... |
| 03:39:03.93 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:39:04.51 | Chris Zapata | Okay. |
| 03:39:04.58 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:39:04.61 | Chris Zapata | And, |
| 03:39:04.68 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:39:04.81 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 03:39:04.95 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:39:04.96 | Chris Zapata | Bye. |
| 03:39:04.98 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:39:05.03 | Chris Zapata | here. |
| 03:39:05.42 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:39:06.15 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:39:06.16 | Chris Zapata | Three. You know, on the main poise of the Titanic, it was the first trip bringing a ship across the suit. So there were a lot of things missing. Curtains, I think they missed a bunch of silverware, lots of process improvements on the crew. But if you actually ask them what the most important thing they needed, there's more lookouts on the bow. That would make the biggest difference for the ship. And to me, when I look at this through the lens of what makes the biggest difference, all these are nice to have. But the biggest ideas that I've heard here today are this new development approach around capturing value for app zoning, And repeating times one key without changing design. Still 100%. |
| 03:39:42.26 | Amy Howard | Right. Thank you. I'm not. |
| 03:39:43.88 | Chris Zapata | you |
| 03:39:43.90 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:39:44.03 | Joan Cox | Right. |
| 03:39:44.23 | Chris Zapata | Yes. |
| 03:39:44.43 | Amy Howard | We're trying to narrow so that you can get to sell. |
| 03:39:46.04 | Joan Cox | out. |
| 03:39:46.36 | Chris Zapata | that you've been. I wouldn't get any of those. I think the number one thing to look at are the two things on the board there, around the CBA process, community development process, and the PN1022. Thank you. |
| 03:39:58.68 | Unknown | I'm sorry. |
| 03:39:58.69 | Chris Zapata | Because they started now, it's going to take some time for the benefit of the kid again, you need to start now. |
| 03:40:06.39 | Amy Howard | A star means one council member thinks those are the big thing. |
| 03:40:09.93 | Steven Woodside | I think they're very important. I don't know what they should still plan, if anything, but I said they're very important. And I really like her idea of the tax holiday, even though it looks small, it's a means of attracting new business, which could lead to an accelerating effect. |
| 03:40:23.65 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:40:23.69 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 03:40:23.75 | Unknown | three. |
| 03:40:28.01 | Amy Howard | Melissa, you had your hand. I just was going to say, I mean, I appreciate that those are longer term projects that we should, that we should take off. I think they would be revenue gathering in looking at what we have up there. Obviously, I'm very passionate about the business license tax holiday because I think having a stuff, we know, I think the immediate issue we have right now is our storefronts empty and the down time we get back from every resident all the time. And we need a solution to that. |
| 03:40:29.59 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:40:54.28 | Amy Howard | And, but if we had to take stuff off, like, okay, we can take off the annual reporting if we can agree to a different version of annual reporting. So that formula retail, it's already happening. We could take off impact fees because we would consider that in the content of what Ian was just talking about. |
| 03:41:11.04 | Melissa Blaustein | more revenue, which is the community development agreement conversation. And then we only have business license tax and the worst and the worst they |
| 03:41:20.98 | Amy Howard | the ordinance of their clothes, |
| 03:41:22.01 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 03:41:22.28 | Amy Howard | related to business development or business growth from that category. that's what i would probably have something more from that formula retail is already happening Remember that, so the vacancy tax, I believe your city attorney mentioned that that would be a voter, is that a voter initiative, the vacancy tax? We're in San Francisco. Where did it go? Over here? So it doesn't mean it's not. |
| 03:41:47.15 | Carolyn Revell | Yeah. |
| 03:41:47.57 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:41:47.72 | Carolyn Revell | Bye. |
| 03:41:47.86 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:41:49.14 | Unknown | Thank you. There's one way. |
| 03:41:49.75 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 03:41:50.17 | Unknown | Thank you. because there's no one getting |
| 03:41:52.92 | Amy Howard | So- Yeah, Jill has a question. Let me just start. |
| 03:41:54.14 | Unknown | I'm going to spend more time. |
| 03:41:55.25 | Unknown | you. |
| 03:41:59.22 | Amy Howard | Thank you. You're on a key bid, right? Then I'm going to do that. So, Thank you. |
| 03:42:08.04 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:42:08.08 | Amy Howard | We'll break it up. |
| 03:42:09.04 | Jill Hoffman | OK. So that's because you're talking about the struggling down the place. So we've been talking about We're struggling downtown. |
| 03:42:20.97 | Amy Howard | or four years maybe, maybe five. We tried different things and it's still struggling downtown, right? And we tried different things on D-DAC We created the B-Bed, which is the downtown whatever it is from now. But we're still struggling. |
| 03:42:35.67 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:42:38.53 | Amy Howard | And so I thought you and I were work together. |
| 03:42:41.81 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:42:42.35 | Amy Howard | He started to look at all the metrics, what we've tried. |
| 03:42:46.74 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:42:46.75 | Amy Howard | And we're still struggling. Yeah. Yeah. Let's, Right, so don't disagree with, for mayor, you have to appoint them. Yeah, I'm sorry. |
| 03:42:53.96 | Unknown | Yeah, I understand. Thank you. |
| 03:42:54.97 | Amy Howard | This is a free flowing. Yeah, because we're talking about tax holidays. The exact opposite of what was revenue producing. Yeah. And I'm not saying I'm against it. Right. I want to go. |
| 03:43:03.05 | Unknown | Yeah. Yes. |
| 03:43:04.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:43:04.99 | Unknown | Right. Oh, actually. |
| 03:43:06.14 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Beth. |
| 03:43:07.09 | Amy Howard | Thank you. Right. |
| 03:43:08.23 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 03:43:08.32 | Amy Howard | Bye bye. |
| 03:43:08.98 | Jill Hoffman | Bye. |
| 03:43:08.99 | Amy Howard | So I'm like, okay, that's all these different people. We're not being, apparently we're not being effective. We try all these different things. We've designated assets of Sausalito to this one area of town. How come we're not getting traction? Right. Another one, Franco opened up and they keep doing well. |
| 03:43:30.12 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:43:30.39 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:43:30.42 | Carolyn Revell | That's what I'm saying. We are getting new. I just say it. Yeah. |
| 03:43:31.27 | Amy Howard | All right. That's what we are getting. I just say it. |
| 03:43:34.29 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:43:34.88 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:43:34.93 | Carolyn Revell | I have no idea. |
| 03:43:34.96 | Amy Howard | It makes sense for economic development. Melissa, and then let us come back to you. from the EDAC perspective, we have our EDAC new chair. Leva Levi. I said. Levi's here. And let me talk a little bit, so if you don't see me happy and see me. |
| 03:43:51.28 | Carolyn Revell | We have, yeah, and we are. |
| 03:43:53.07 | Amy Howard | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:43:53.41 | Carolyn Revell | you know, |
| 03:43:54.03 | Amy Howard | We got our staff reps here too. Thank you so much for coming. of, come back. Right. And then So we've got that. So then you can put that under. Yeah, yeah. But I think that merits |
| 03:44:03.45 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. |
| 03:44:03.57 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:44:03.91 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. Okay. |
| 03:44:06.20 | Amy Howard | Right, and there are some discussions. I agree. I just have heard from a lot of businesses and from the PBIT of an interest in the business life in Slack's holidays. So I know- It might be the right percentage. A hundred percent. So let's- |
| 03:44:19.43 | Unknown | it. |
| 03:44:19.77 | Amy Howard | Aside from a holiday, we have to revisit the man on Wincherton post because we've received points from several businesses that were not applying it. |
| 03:44:28.02 | Steven Woodside | or current. They have an appeal on that. |
| 03:44:31.33 | Amy Howard | All right. That is not just how it's also re-examining the manner of the two things. We have other businesses. Yeah. And I'm a fellow. Yeah. |
| 03:44:32.05 | Unknown | That is great. How? with holiday? |
| 03:44:41.49 | Carolyn Revell | Very interesting. |
| 03:44:44.84 | Amy Howard | Melissa, were you going to say no? No, I just, I mean, I just, I think that that's great. And we should explore what's working and what's not working, but I don't want us to not have a conversation about about this. Yeah. You didn't want to lose that. Yeah. I don't want to lose the momentum of that happening. Because I need, like my, the feedback I've had on business owners is like, you need to give us an incentive to come there. Because so far there's a lot of storefronts and t-shirt shops. |
| 03:44:55.49 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 03:45:09.57 | Amy Howard | Which is what San Francisco did. That's how they got all the dot of commerce. They eliminated a lot of the- They are in India. They sure did. They dropped it. They don't care. And then the end of the Twitter graph. Yeah. Okay. Once again, |
| 03:45:16.30 | Jill Hoffman | and they sure do. |
| 03:45:17.34 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. |
| 03:45:17.38 | Carolyn Revell | AND I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE A |
| 03:45:18.71 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. |
| 03:45:20.85 | Steven Woodside | One thing. Yeah. ventilated we had a very unrelated topic. But with all due respect, But the bulkhead doesn't go all the way yet. Yeah, but people at the bow would take seven and a half miles to turn. Okay, it wouldn't have avoided. But the ship sank because of the volunteer. So all I'm saying is That included weight design. And then you can't have an aggressive captain who would actually set the record on the first run. |
| 03:45:53.61 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:45:53.64 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:45:53.66 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:45:54.03 | Amy Howard | Bye. |
| 03:45:54.23 | Steven Woodside | Oh. |
| 03:45:54.28 | Amy Howard | Bye. Yes. |
| 03:45:55.01 | Steven Woodside | I'll talk to you later. |
| 03:45:55.43 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:45:55.82 | Amy Howard | And I think that's a good thing. He has to have the shipment something |
| 03:45:57.62 | Joan Cox | I'm sorry. |
| 03:45:57.64 | Steven Woodside | Exactly. |
| 03:45:58.20 | Unknown | Well, I think |
| 03:45:59.28 | Amy Howard | Please leave a little bit of a caprio on board. Stay with down. Okay. |
| 03:46:04.44 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 03:46:05.62 | Amy Howard | Yes, but yeah, yeah. |
| 03:46:08.21 | Chris Zapata | I love the direction of helping the businesses but again, I'm extremely, so that's the category Business crisis tax is just one tool. |
| 03:46:16.95 | Angeline Loeffler | I was going to bring that up. |
| 03:46:17.84 | Chris Zapata | that up. For example, A restaurant like Coltivar, a restaurant like the Old Seafood Pepper. Lighthouse. They got a lot of help from Brandon, kind of through our glass. But they're held up in the Warren County Health Department. They also have their lock to fire. It's basically, my parents grew up in communist Poland. You got your stamp at this window, now you have to go to that window, you have to get another stamp. Go to that window, get another stamp, and another stamp. It's all in the entrepreneur. If you want to actually move the needle and experience it on entrepreneurs, start your business this year. |
| 03:46:48.66 | Melissa Blaustein | Good to see you. |
| 03:46:49.52 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. in good budget. service that actually doesn't have to, but we direct them to help the business walk through all the different government agencies from the point of view, but the applicant, government, government, they don't care. |
| 03:46:59.64 | Amy Howard | Yeah. Yeah, they don't know if it's county, they don't know if it's fire. |
| 03:47:04.52 | Chris Zapata | So we would have the |
| 03:47:04.55 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:47:06.71 | Chris Zapata | We would be the white glove service. |
| 03:47:08.99 | Amy Howard | So, and I know that they can do that. I would suggest this though, I would suggest that when you start talking about your strategic plan. And again, I'm trying to capture all this. Now. you Thank you. support you. a pretty struggling business wouldn't be in your strategic plan, but it might be enhanced economic vibrancy or enhance business, local business vibrancy. And your PBIT and your chamber people will have lots of language for that. And even though these ideas are in here now, you'll still have strategic goals underneath those business ideas. Right. And I, so I think I think that From that slide, future agenda items I think we're down to a couple. And I think, from that one slide, what I hear is Jill and Love that. are going to work on the potential of a downtown tax holiday? What would a vacancy tax process be? What are some other ideas that this is just me? Maybe it's concierge, whatever. You're gonna start working on that. Now, I do wanna caution and hopefully it's about to come back and tell you, but You guys can do a lot of the work, but then if you come to your staff, and say, okay, here's what you want to do. Now you're involved in Wendell. Now you're involved in finance. Now you're involved in ComDev. Just understand it's still staff time. But I like the way you guys are saying, let us run with this for a bit. Okay, so it's 1.35. We still have to keep public comments. We're ending at 2.30 and we've been through one of our five feature identified. |
| 03:48:53.75 | Unknown | But I know |
| 03:48:54.69 | Amy Howard | Okay, next slide. |
| 03:48:54.80 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:48:56.35 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 03:48:57.88 | Amy Howard | Okay, healthy. So this was on your future agenda, Portable Housing Assessment Venture Report. Development of anti-displacement rank control ordinance. Do you guys wanna keep this on as this year Remember, when we talk about this year, we're not talking about the next few months, but if you wanna keep this on as this year, Future agenda item, or can they go into a parking lot? Brandon, are we required to do number one? for our housing elements. |
| 03:49:26.83 | Brandon Phipps | As part of the ongoing tracking of implementation of program for, yes, we are tasked with tracking units generated. This may be a feedback perspective, but it's very much Thank you. |
| 03:49:38.70 | Amy Howard | So you're going to do that whether they direct you or not? Absolutely. We can take that off as already pending. Right. And then you have that done, correct? |
| 03:49:41.88 | Brandon Phipps | Yeah. |
| 03:49:41.96 | Melissa Blaustein | I'm not. |
| 03:49:48.49 | Amy Howard | And then the second one is something about friends control. felt that of anti-displacement. Can we Parking lot. This was Melissa's baby. So, I mean, we can talk about it. I don't know if we can get to a very comprehensive. I just want to make sure that the folks that are living in downtown or folks that are living in New York or any of these locations, as we're going through a process of rezoning and acting in our housing, that those people who are living in locations don't get displaced. Like, I don't know, it's like a business name. It is placement or it's a conversation about rent control. I want to make sure we're protecting lower income revenue. So, I'm creating a new category called, so I have a category moving from future agenda items to in process, and now new category items moving from future agenda items to parking lot. So, they're still alive, but they're not. |
| 03:50:02.01 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 03:50:14.87 | Unknown | in the |
| 03:50:27.44 | Jill Hoffman | . |
| 03:50:37.67 | Joan Cox | So there's... alive. Yeah. |
| 03:50:40.84 | Amy Howard | And that's one of the unintended consequences of HCG. So next slide. Okay. Update to the financial policy and process Um, A lot of the... I see. Okay. |
| 03:51:00.97 | Steven Woodside | You guys. |
| 03:51:02.12 | Amy Howard | Tell me what, yeah. |
| 03:51:03.13 | Steven Woodside | Right? coming back to us. In process. And that's correct. Yeah. |
| 03:51:09.83 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, and I think it's not going to require But yeah, I'm sorry. |
| 03:51:14.13 | Unknown | Yeah, I'm sorry. Our work, whatever required will come. |
| 03:51:14.99 | Joan Cox | I'm not sure. |
| 03:51:15.08 | Steven Woodside | I'm going to go. |
| 03:51:15.15 | Jill Hoffman | and we're, |
| 03:51:15.35 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 03:51:15.70 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 03:51:15.72 | Steven Woodside | I'm sorry. |
| 03:51:17.47 | Joan Cox | Um, And we are already meeting with Marin Transit to develop alternatives to parking downtown, including bus pumps, so that today is in process. |
| 03:51:18.23 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:51:18.60 | Jill Hoffman | I'm sorry. |
| 03:51:26.59 | Amy Howard | Is that okay? |
| 03:51:27.21 | Carolyn Revell | Okay. |
| 03:51:27.55 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:51:27.60 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:51:27.63 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:51:27.94 | Amy Howard | Yeah. So again, we're taking off your future agenda items. Staff is still working on it. Thank you. So that's an important point to keep in mind. Okay. Anything else? |
| 03:51:39.88 | Steven Woodside | Well, Tracy Way, we've got parking lots. Tracy Way is, at least for Maine, the Hent construction department set. Lightning was done. A few little |
| 03:51:50.62 | Jill Hoffman | P-Bit is working on optimization. |
| 03:51:52.17 | Steven Woodside | There's a variety of counseling, actually. |
| 03:51:53.10 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:51:53.75 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 03:51:53.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:51:54.16 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:51:54.18 | Amy Howard | Stay in. |
| 03:51:54.57 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:51:54.67 | Unknown | There's no city council at all. |
| 03:51:54.90 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:51:54.97 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. No. |
| 03:51:55.41 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 03:51:55.66 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. Thank you. |
| 03:51:55.93 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:51:55.97 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 03:51:56.35 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:51:56.37 | Unknown | I feel like |
| 03:51:57.13 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:51:57.70 | Unknown | This is that. |
| 03:51:58.19 | Amy Howard | I'm going to put it in the parking lot for now. Or I'm actually just going to take off. But wait, is it part of the staff that's doing a lot of work on it? |
| 03:51:58.87 | Joan Cox | Thank you. not often. Yeah. |
| 03:52:05.60 | Jill Hoffman | No, no, it works. |
| 03:52:07.04 | Amy Howard | all part. |
| 03:52:07.59 | Jill Hoffman | I'm going to go. |
| 03:52:07.68 | Amy Howard | Okay. |
| 03:52:07.73 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:52:07.86 | Chris Zapata | I didn't say don't keep hard on it. It was a question of who could use it, where they could do that, how they could do that. |
| 03:52:12.86 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:52:12.88 | Amy Howard | Bye. Thank you. |
| 03:52:13.03 | Chris Zapata | Okay. There was going to be a conversation about it. |
| 03:52:15.07 | Amy Howard | Okay, thank you. I just wanted to make sure. Thank you. What else can come off of the immediate? Who puts the main policy for roadways and facilities? |
| 03:52:24.96 | Steven Woodside | Well, it may not be how it was put up there, but we do have a naming policy. |
| 03:52:30.31 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 03:52:30.73 | Steven Woodside | but we don't have Thank you. that under the purview I think of the Parks Commission. department. place by the bar. Thank you. We don't have a specified process. |
| 03:52:42.42 | Amy Howard | So, |
| 03:52:42.64 | Steven Woodside | And so, |
| 03:52:44.36 | Amy Howard | Oh, that's the design review stuff or the names? |
| 03:52:47.94 | Steven Woodside | Now, I think somehow the... Oh. Thank you. |
| 03:52:54.02 | Unknown | Somebody knows the virus. It couldn't be around. Yeah. |
| 03:52:56.77 | Amy Howard | Oh, I know what that is. We wanted to name a stairway after a specific person. Ah. We wanted to do that and we realized we didn't have process in place to do that. And should we just do it? And also the person doesn't want us to do that. |
| 03:52:57.90 | Unknown | It's not been. I don't know. |
| 03:53:03.80 | Angeline Loeffler | Bye. |
| 03:53:07.94 | Angeline Loeffler | And also, |
| 03:53:09.91 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:53:10.03 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 03:53:10.15 | Angeline Loeffler | Well, |
| 03:53:10.54 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Just pick it up. |
| 03:53:11.95 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:53:11.97 | Steven Woodside | You can always come. |
| 03:53:11.99 | Amy Howard | You can always come back. |
| 03:53:13.67 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. And then what we are doing in a council workplace, for example, |
| 03:53:14.43 | Amy Howard | Any hour stairway can come back. Uh, |
| 03:53:20.93 | Steven Woodside | Finish phase two, Abelson. There are issues and we've heard from a few people. We will learn from people about ideas, but it's in the work. |
| 03:53:31.93 | Joan Cox | But also the naming thing, the native statue at heart was really for Dunphy. That's phase, that's the next, not the current phase at Dunphy. The next phase. I'm sorry, you said Gabrielson. |
| 03:53:43.97 | Amy Howard | It's done be so I'm going to move that to things that are in process because it's already on the |
| 03:53:45.60 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:53:45.62 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. No. |
| 03:53:45.74 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:53:45.97 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:53:50.43 | Unknown | We have some words. |
| 03:53:50.93 | Amy Howard | We had some work. |
| 03:53:53.03 | Joan Cox | reached out and is working on this as part of phase three for |
| 03:53:56.64 | Chris Zapata | And what you really need to do is figure out how you name things. and a policy for that. You moved your art commission and added a bunch of steps. And so, Parks and Recognition is a good place for this part now. And you said you're gonna go talk to them |
| 03:54:09.25 | Steven Woodside | I'm gonna talk to them about their Monday meeting and just raise the topic, ask them to think about it. We're all good. Bye. |
| 03:54:15.07 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 03:54:15.10 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 03:54:15.94 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:54:16.25 | Melissa Blaustein | So I put many things on in process or shall we keep it on future |
| 03:54:16.72 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:54:19.98 | Amy Howard | Yeah. Because it is something that we do need to Thank you. |
| 03:54:24.57 | Chris Zapata | because I'm not sure. in Ann Roberts Radio. |
| 03:54:25.75 | Amy Howard | Right. |
| 03:54:25.97 | Brent Moore | 1581. |
| 03:54:27.37 | Amy Howard | The Planning Commission made a recommendation and then, and the same thing with Mary Ann Sears, that went through the Planning Commission and then the City Council. |
| 03:54:36.78 | Chris Zapata | not written in. as far as the process. Yeah, okay. You need to fix that. That's all I'm saying. So you're gonna get down. |
| 03:54:38.84 | Amy Howard | Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. So I'm going to leave that on future agenda items. |
| 03:54:46.05 | Steven Woodside | There we go. |
| 03:54:47.33 | Amy Howard | Okay. |
| 03:54:47.67 | Steven Woodside | In the general vicinity of that topic, you know, public art, it does have public art policies, but they require updates to protect the city with regards to federal law of rent claims. |
| 03:54:47.72 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:54:47.75 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:54:51.95 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:54:59.57 | Steven Woodside | But regardless of naming policies, many public agencies have a very short policy that prohibits naming something after a living person because you never know what that living person is going to do. |
| 03:54:59.65 | Unknown | I love it. |
| 03:55:00.34 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:55:00.46 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:55:10.70 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 03:55:11.45 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:55:12.04 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:55:12.05 | Amy Howard | We have that. That's a great point. I was going to ask, what do you do if you want to change? We also have a policy for that, if something is discovered. So that's a good thing. |
| 03:55:12.10 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:55:12.17 | Melissa Blaustein | We have that. That's a great point. |
| 03:55:23.19 | Steven Woodside | The name stays on 15 years, but true. I would |
| 03:55:26.84 | Unknown | We, |
| 03:55:27.11 | Steven Woodside | need to check the price. |
| 03:55:27.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:55:28.00 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:55:28.03 | Unknown | Ryan's right behind it. Five years is the timeline that the city guarantees that bench to do in place. After that, with a natural disaster, construction or anything takes place, the city does not have to put that bench or name back on that. of mental health. |
| 03:55:51.00 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:55:51.24 | Amy Howard | So I'm gonna update that title. to naming policy for the Royal Abbey's Republic Facility slash public art |
| 03:55:58.04 | Joan Cox | policy as Sergio described. And I'm going to leave it on |
| 03:56:01.83 | Steven Woodside | I may want to come back, but I hope it doesn't involve a lot of staff time now. |
| 03:56:08.33 | Joan Cox | See you in the comments. |
| 03:56:09.02 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:56:09.04 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Thank you. Okay. AI is at the top. What do you guys think about that? So we definitely have a great place. |
| 03:56:18.73 | Amy Howard | I mean, I think it's a great thing. I know we have an AI policy, but we could be doing a lot more. |
| 03:56:22.91 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:56:24.90 | Amy Howard | I understand that it's like a national, et cetera, but it's really critical. Like, I think we have an opportunity to make some real inroads on how local governments deal with our, which I'm happy to like take the lead on it and not spend a lot of staff time and be thinking about it and convene with experts, but I think not talking about it at all because it's not like immediately pressing. We're going to miss the opportunity. I don't know if you guys read that. Yes. Go ahead. Go ahead. It's fine. |
| 03:56:51.16 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:56:51.35 | Joan Cox | I'm going to... |
| 03:56:51.97 | Amy Howard | Bye. |
| 03:56:52.04 | Joan Cox | I'm going to put Melissa's |
| 03:56:52.97 | Amy Howard | We have a great day. |
| 03:56:53.03 | Joan Cox | after the |
| 03:56:53.66 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:56:53.78 | Joan Cox | THE END OF |
| 03:56:53.86 | Amy Howard | But that's also something that could go into your strategic plan, like operational efficiency, operational effectiveness with AI. I mean, you can't, you're so right. You cannot. |
| 03:56:54.08 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:57:05.05 | Amy Howard | do business as usual, work just for you certain things, and there's things you gotta watch out for, But, and I don't know if you guys have an IT director, Yes, we did. |
| 03:57:15.17 | Jill Hoffman | live a country. Thank you. |
| 03:57:16.19 | Amy Howard | Okay, so there's a whole bunch of things that then, like, I love, like, you could talk or, you know, just talk. I know you should have a lot of time. But there's also budgetary implications and it's about operational. Like that would be a great thing to bring up and discuss with a new And I also think in addition to just how we use it from an IT standpoint, we should have a conversation about what our policies are around using AI for hiring, using AI for work, using like to what extent is our responsibility for using it, when is it okay to use it and when isn't it. 100%. All of those things are really important. If we don't do it now, it's getting completely different. |
| 03:57:32.72 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 03:57:32.86 | Unknown | analysis. |
| 03:57:33.30 | Melissa Blaustein | I've been. inefficient. |
| 03:57:46.68 | Joan Cox | Bye. |
| 03:57:51.02 | Angeline Loeffler | Yeah. |
| 03:57:53.65 | Amy Howard | I brought up a strategic, it's because there are all those considerations, there are policy considerations, there are, all of those things. And I think that's right. I just mentioned IT because it's also useful. |
| 03:58:04.01 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, of course it is. |
| 03:58:05.02 | Amy Howard | Jill Mayer. I was at the Cal City's conference last week and I sent the AI for just what Melissa was saying, you know, just for everyday, you know, staff to the city manager. I think who else has been up to? I think Kathy maybe? Like how to use AI just for everyday kind of staff work, managing calendars and workflows and everything like that. I'm on the governance policy committee and so they were doing |
| 03:58:41.03 | Unknown | the whole presentation of what San Jose, city of San Jose was using for their AI department. I'd love to see it, I do. And also, yeah, okay, I'm happy to afford it to you, but also their AI policy, |
| 03:58:51.97 | Jill Hoffman | that we have a policy that's here. But I have those links too. So I've been looking through if Melissa should be |
| 03:58:58.03 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:58:58.04 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:58:58.08 | Joan Cox | If I'm leaving that on, I'm renaming it operational efficiency through AI. |
| 03:58:58.36 | Jill Hoffman | Oh. |
| 03:59:01.99 | Amy Howard | Well, I don't think it's more operational efficiency. It's more than operational efficiency. Yeah. Policies and implications for use and what we elect to use it for. I'm just how to be used in technology. We should find it on it. Just leave it on as strategic planning implementation for AI. And I put it up there. |
| 03:59:02.53 | Joan Cox | That's because we're not ready. Yeah. |
| 03:59:09.50 | Melissa Blaustein | I swear. like, |
| 03:59:17.09 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 03:59:19.20 | Amy Howard | I think. probably for your strategic plan because To everyone's point, and I appreciate everyone hanging in here, and it's a little bit hot, and this is such hard work. You know, and you guys, anyway, |
| 03:59:35.03 | Carolyn Revell | And the last thing we haven't discussed on here is provide |
| 03:59:37.70 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 03:59:37.94 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 03:59:37.95 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 03:59:38.04 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:59:38.16 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 03:59:38.34 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 03:59:38.54 | Carolyn Revell | So we're already required |
| 03:59:40.03 | Amy Howard | to take evidence training, but the suggestion was to make it mandatory for some of our boards |
| 03:59:45.97 | Steven Woodside | is |
| 03:59:47.20 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:59:47.23 | Amy Howard | I'm not. |
| 03:59:47.30 | Unknown | . |
| 03:59:47.39 | Amy Howard | Right. |
| 03:59:47.72 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:59:47.76 | Amy Howard | All right. |
| 03:59:47.94 | Unknown | And planning some. |
| 03:59:48.20 | Amy Howard | I'm planning stuff. |
| 03:59:49.72 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 03:59:50.17 | Unknown | Thank you. We were talking about doing it all. Yeah. Yeah. |
| 03:59:56.28 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. The new financial literacy training applies to all boards and commissions that we do not have. financial component to them for the literal text of the law, which is |
| 04:00:09.09 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:00:09.10 | Amy Howard | know how I would take that. |
| 04:00:10.77 | Steven Woodside | Uh, |
| 04:00:10.88 | Amy Howard | I think we can take that off all together. The room's already there. It's a little bit of a little bit. Yeah, my herb will be putting together one. Yep. So I'm going to move it in and draw. I'll say about it for me. |
| 04:00:14.13 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. You know, my heart will be opening. |
| 04:00:20.04 | Steven Woodside | Okay? Thank you. third year of driven at least |
| 04:00:22.81 | Amy Howard | I'm going to put you in process and move after. I think you guys are going to do the webinar. And so then we can just say, |
| 04:00:28.97 | Unknown | board position of you guys. |
| 04:00:30.22 | Jill Hoffman | all of the requirements. |
| 04:00:31.53 | Unknown | They're required. So we can just make that a requirement and start on the board of commissions. Do you guys have to do this? One, two, three, four. |
| 04:00:31.57 | Jill Hoffman | They're required. |
| 04:00:37.12 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 04:00:37.13 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 04:00:37.56 | Unknown | out for no time. Thank you. |
| 04:00:38.36 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Some of the webinars are appropriate for players, some for clients. And I think this one is going to be |
| 04:00:39.17 | Unknown | I'm sorry. Yep. All right. Thank you. |
| 04:00:42.95 | Amy Howard | And then, |
| 04:00:43.38 | Unknown | this one. |
| 04:00:43.97 | Amy Howard | is going to be yes ma'am next slide please |
| 04:00:46.40 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. Ma'am. |
| 04:00:49.91 | Amy Howard | Okay. |
| 04:00:51.14 | Steven Woodside | into the assignments. Yeah. I'm gonna jump right in because I think We have a fast forward field and I were on it, leading to possibly I heard it. possibly fresh. Thank you. |
| 04:01:10.80 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 04:01:10.82 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 04:01:10.93 | Jill Hoffman | I'm going to put those on as |
| 04:01:12.98 | Amy Howard | Bye. |
| 04:01:13.03 | Jill Hoffman | process. |
| 04:01:14.04 | Jill Hoffman | And but |
| 04:01:14.70 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 04:01:15.03 | Jill Hoffman | Landslide Task Force afterwards. |
| 04:01:17.13 | Steven Woodside | Yeah, Bill and I need to get together to see what we can put back. And I'm gonna turn and speak with Jorge, are you willing to serve? |
| 04:01:25.73 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:01:26.19 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 04:01:26.69 | Unknown | Um, |
| 04:01:27.49 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 04:01:27.57 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:01:27.89 | Steven Woodside | but hey, we're gonna put it together. and come back. So not to burn at this point. Right. Right. |
| 04:01:36.74 | Chris Zapata | No refact. |
| 04:01:37.17 | Unknown | I'm not sure. |
| 04:01:37.58 | Steven Woodside | you |
| 04:01:37.60 | Chris Zapata | Yeah, listen, our part two is to prepare the last five times. Yeah, this is a |
| 04:01:42.46 | Steven Woodside | Bye. |
| 04:01:42.49 | Amy Howard | Okay. So that's the first two of them. |
| 04:01:42.81 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. Thank you. |
| 04:01:44.60 | Chris Zapata | Yeah. |
| 04:01:44.65 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 04:01:44.89 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 04:01:45.59 | Amy Howard | The third is report I'm guarding gate five. That's from last year. |
| 04:01:49.06 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. Last year. That's important. |
| 04:01:51.65 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 04:01:51.69 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 04:01:51.70 | Amy Howard | That's just work in the process. |
| 04:01:52.16 | Jill Hoffman | That's it. and pay one. |
| 04:01:56.02 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 04:01:56.80 | Jill Hoffman | These are. |
| 04:01:57.16 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 04:01:57.48 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. It just. |
| 04:01:59.35 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 04:01:59.36 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 04:01:59.48 | Amy Howard | So I'm adding that to the end process. Is that what that was yours? I just wanted to make sure that we had a system and a plan for big ties after what happened. |
| 04:02:01.44 | Melissa Blaustein | that's it. |
| 04:02:09.52 | Jill Hoffman | before. |
| 04:02:09.81 | Amy Howard | Thank you. Could you have a little update, like a staff update? I just did. Oh, sorry. I just did. Good. Excellent. See? |
| 04:02:18.43 | Steven Woodside | uh, Our chief who wanted to be here today, but we know this morning is on top of that next issue of median and they the enforcement you gave us a little update. |
| 04:02:30.84 | Amy Howard | I'm going to add that to the end process. I'm going to put the chiefs in there. |
| 04:02:35.00 | Chris Zapata | Yeah, and I'm going to make a recommendation for you all. That bridgeway safety from Boulder Gate Market all the way to Princess Street. Princess Street going up to Boulder Gate as challenges as well. So we need to broaden that little intersection rather than just rig rig the princess. I think you need to go up to a boat. You have the gate owners, we have all the little businesses there. And there's a lot of interaction between parts and people and the residents, and so we don't wanna make sure that's not missed. One of the property owners made sure I'll tell you all that. |
| 04:03:09.55 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:03:09.58 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 04:03:10.36 | Melissa Blaustein | So I changed the title to discussion on median Parkway on Bridgeway and |
| 04:03:14.04 | Amy Howard | FAMILY, AND THE |
| 04:03:14.90 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 04:03:14.97 | Amy Howard | and enforcement. And. |
| 04:03:17.18 | Joan Cox | you |
| 04:03:17.23 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 04:03:17.28 | Joan Cox | you |
| 04:03:17.33 | Amy Howard | and Chiefs. |
| 04:03:17.83 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:03:18.16 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 04:03:18.31 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:03:19.69 | Amy Howard | Okay. And then I think you're on the Narcan. That's in process. That's in process. And you have to do that. So that shouldn't be an audit of renegade red zone. It shouldn't be the best. |
| 04:03:33.83 | Chris Zapata | That was one of the black everyone we haven't got to. We haven't gone down. I'm required to do that one to anyone. No, it would be actually people became their own. It occurred to council said find out how many are in the city. Oh, give us a report. Tell us what we're going to do about it. |
| 04:03:45.17 | Amy Howard | Oh, I'm going to put that in the parking lot for now. |
| 04:03:51.60 | Chris Zapata | Right. |
| 04:03:51.85 | Amy Howard | to apply |
| 04:03:51.92 | Chris Zapata | Bye. |
| 04:03:53.24 | Amy Howard | Um, I explore options for catastrophic insurance carriers or capacity insurance carriers. So we had decided we were going to postpone that till the end of our three year probation with our prison. |
| 04:04:06.92 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:04:07.63 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 04:04:07.65 | Joan Cox | So because right now we're paying an incremental fee as a new client of prison. We have one more year for that. So I'm going to put that in the parking lot for one. |
| 04:04:15.97 | Amy Howard | So that was two years ago that you guys, that's where I'm, that was my cat means. |
| 04:04:16.27 | Joan Cox | Because I'm going to go to the next slide. Yeah, that's right. |
| 04:04:20.31 | Amy Howard | All right. Moving along, I don't know. Oh, don't change it yet. |
| 04:04:22.67 | Unknown | Okay. |
| 04:04:26.47 | Amy Howard | you're not going to be able to do it. Very hard. |
| 04:04:30.72 | Unknown | Peace. |
| 04:04:31.22 | Amy Howard | Yeah. Okay, now you can go. Okay. Um, so Before we talk about this, I mean, there's Yeah. I've seen a lot of value in a lot of the strategic plan. I mean, you've already said, Re-examine mission mission and values for the city. We started that right and that will continue with continued planning reimagining the marineship, that is a big strategic goal. That's not I don't know if that's You know, maybe we put that on this list, right? |
| 04:05:02.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:05:02.93 | SPEAKER_00 | Yeah. |
| 04:05:04.77 | Amy Howard | That's one of those things you say, hey, staff, come to us with the reimagination of the friendship. You know, there's all these possibilities. strategic plan that's happening Um, So I would comment myself on all those things, Are these things that you think you need to... patch a priority team for this year or we want to talk about the strategic plan. |
| 04:05:32.99 | Steven Woodside | I'm just going to be on the next one there is. This is the ability. I think we are in process. Okay. And then we should, the money commissioner here, I think we hope to have back before the end of the year, I'm going to be into the fiscal. |
| 04:05:38.67 | Amy Howard | It's in the process. It's already on the plan. |
| 04:05:48.39 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 04:05:49.90 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 04:05:50.03 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. Brandon, they kind of fumbled with it because I have a fighting commission when they looked at it. I don't know, Sybil, she's here. She's right behind me. Happy with it. I think there's work to be done, but to say it's got some |
| 04:05:59.40 | Joan Cox | She's right behind me. |
| 04:06:05.96 | Chris Zapata | We have some communication that we don't. So it's doing today and it's finding the issue of the data. It's in fact, yeah. |
| 04:06:11.38 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 04:06:11.87 | Chris Zapata | Good much, I'm here. |
| 04:06:12.96 | Unknown | in the process. |
| 04:06:13.96 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 04:06:14.19 | Amy Howard | Okay, consider updating CEP process. Notice requirements? That was an Ian wine arising out of 715 Bridgeway. |
| 04:06:28.89 | Steven Woodside | Yeah, so I think there was, if I recall correctly, this was a discussion amongst the city council, and the council agendized this for further discussion. discussion and debate as to whether you wanted to take this action. But if I recall, the issue was, During the 715 Bridgeway project, the planning commission did not hear a conditional use permit parking requirements, and when the project came to the Council on appeal, it created an issue related to that particular applicant. because the council needed to direct. that matter back to the planning and there can be fear that you see in the first instance, |
| 04:07:06.15 | Unknown | I'm going to |
| 04:07:06.54 | Steven Woodside | More generally. That would take anything high. |
| 04:07:08.97 | Chris Zapata | category. I'm a lawyer. And Staff, Lindsay, reads the fall time. And we were just talking about the process for variance associated with small And I think they got asked |
| 04:07:23.13 | Joan Cox | And they're not arrogant. We can remove the deck. |
| 04:07:25.41 | Chris Zapata | Here's a little bit of a step. I'll show you those quickly. changes to our audiences that would streamline things. And the general category of the work will be, I would love to staff to come up with not just one location, but all the little changes that would ease their lives and it's our residents' lives, just be one omnibus screenwriting. |
| 04:07:48.24 | Amy Howard | I want to ask staff. I love, I wish that were true. I'm going to tell you Dreamline is CUP. I mean, it's just, and all of it, if it's public, So if it's possible, are your policies and permit law, I'll turn to the city attorney person and |
| 04:08:04.29 | Brandon Phipps | Yeah, to your first statement, it is true. we do look into a lot of opportunities in our code to make improvements at the staff level. However, I will say that, you know, our team isn't necessarily as small as that either. We've also extended that opportunity responsibility to some of our informed planning commissioners, local architects, community, in addition to land use attorneys, in addition to working with the city attorney. We have a short list of 13 sections already identified and part of the retail is one working with principal platform and the rest of staff on bringing that one forward. So I'd like to say we've made a lot of progress already in those initiatives, and we look forward to continuing to make that progress this year. |
| 04:08:49.56 | Joan Cox | So I'm going to put this in the parking lot for now because The system city manager already has 63 projects that CEDD is working on. |
| 04:08:59.74 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 04:08:59.77 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 04:09:00.04 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 04:09:00.13 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:09:00.16 | Amy Howard | And they already have identified 13 ordinances to be updated. So if it's not in process, you're going to leave it in parking. Yeah, it's not already in process. |
| 04:09:09.19 | Steven Woodside | And I will say that also the city last year did a pretty significant on the bus line code update update on the out of the provisions on density bonus law and. Basically did a cleanup of about four or five years of doing MS. Yeah. |
| 04:09:25.34 | Unknown | you |
| 04:09:25.41 | Amy Howard | Which, but also to Ian's point though, there can also be much as under your bigger goals, concierge service for you know, supporting struggling businesses. Sometimes you can have concierge service in community development with permits, you know, So maybe there's, you know, I love that you're streamlining. That seems to go along, but it's also very hard to understand when you're applying for it. But what's the thought? |
| 04:09:49.23 | Brandon Phipps | So we're complimenting that with. |
| 04:09:49.27 | Amy Howard | throw. |
| 04:09:53.03 | Amy Howard | I'm not. |
| 04:09:53.05 | Brandon Phipps | Thank you. |
| 04:09:53.27 | Amy Howard | Thank you. So guys, I moved reimagining the marineship to in process because we've already, we already have a variety of direction staff coming back to us in March on a, on a visioning process. So I moved that to in process. The Examination Division Evaluates Strategic Plan, we're doing that today and we will be on that. So I'm... |
| 04:10:17.03 | Joan Cox | you. |
| 04:10:17.18 | Amy Howard | that offer to me. |
| 04:10:18.19 | Joan Cox | church. |
| 04:10:18.59 | Amy Howard | Yeah, that's what I was trying to say, both that and that way. And three. Yeah. |
| 04:10:18.85 | Joan Cox | Yeah. and about and |
| 04:10:24.05 | Amy Howard | Sorry, I was trying to say that earlier, but yeah. So now we're down to amending FAR for multi-use projects in the commercial district. |
| 04:10:32.72 | Steven Woodside | I believe this comes out of public comment. Yeah. That's received the, this one is potentially as important. |
| 04:10:32.82 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 04:10:39.50 | Steven Woodside | Yeah, it goes back to Canada. |
| 04:10:41.26 | Joan Cox | So I'm going to put that in the parking lot for now. Yeah. And the last is creating something with kiosk location at Ferry Village. |
| 04:10:46.08 | Steven Woodside | Last. and they come. Thank you. |
| 04:10:50.66 | Amy Howard | Not that me. |
| 04:10:51.30 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Is it a chamber? |
| 04:10:54.40 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:10:54.42 | Chris Zapata | that came up at the city council. That's interesting. Sorry. And I found city property. And so the question was, where are we going to do about it? We applies to the ballots. Well, when he came up. |
| 04:10:54.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:10:55.55 | Steven Woodside | So. |
| 04:10:55.89 | Unknown | That's interesting. I'm sorry. |
| 04:11:04.56 | Unknown | What do we think? the chamber. |
| 04:11:14.45 | Unknown | They're asking. |
| 04:11:14.59 | Unknown | Right. |
| 04:11:15.02 | Amy Howard | Yeah. |
| 04:11:15.09 | Unknown | to be able to do that. Thank you. |
| 04:11:15.75 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 04:11:15.80 | Unknown | it is. |
| 04:11:15.97 | Amy Howard | They own the structure. |
| 04:11:17.25 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 04:11:17.29 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 04:11:17.35 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:11:17.47 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 04:11:19.97 | Unknown | That whole area, there's this one room. And then on. I don't know. |
| 04:11:25.10 | Jill Hoffman | They own their structure. |
| 04:11:25.42 | Unknown | I was like, |
| 04:11:27.65 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 04:11:27.95 | Steven Woodside | You know, you're not a issue, but it's a move. Oh, I'm not sure about that. No, it's very solid. |
| 04:11:30.60 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 04:11:31.65 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 04:11:32.10 | Jill Hoffman | day. |
| 04:11:32.46 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:11:32.47 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 04:11:34.09 | Steven Woodside | structure is now integrated into the |
| 04:11:34.94 | Joan Cox | on the |
| 04:11:37.30 | Steven Woodside | Sorry. |
| 04:11:37.32 | Joan Cox | Are you already being open at starting off one? |
| 04:11:38.33 | Jill Hoffman | I'm sorry. |
| 04:11:41.69 | Jill Hoffman | but what is the requirement? |
| 04:11:41.72 | Amy Howard | What is part of our parking lot one visioning process? |
| 04:11:42.65 | Joan Cox | you |
| 04:11:45.96 | Jill Hoffman | This is all in the lock one. |
| 04:11:47.59 | Amy Howard | This is already part of lot one. |
| 04:11:50.75 | Steven Woodside | is it not being moved as part of our project? No, no, no. |
| 04:11:53.99 | Unknown | Thank you. Bye. Thank you. Yeah. |
| 04:11:55.15 | Unknown | I'm sure they do. |
| 04:11:55.68 | Unknown | We did a fair project, that's when it came up. |
| 04:11:55.71 | Chris Zapata | And, yeah. |
| 04:11:57.75 | Unknown | was it supposed to happen? Oh yeah. |
| 04:11:59.84 | Steven Woodside | This is one of those questions that comes up all the time. What authority do we have? Yeah. Et cetera. So primarily somebody was concerned about, do they have a team? |
| 04:12:05.72 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:12:05.74 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 04:12:06.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:12:11.76 | Amy Howard | Mm-hmm. |
| 04:12:11.83 | Steven Woodside | I'm not aware of what the title status is. I don't know if it's the same things that are not. |
| 04:12:15.56 | Amy Howard | It might be a contract. |
| 04:12:16.67 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 04:12:16.69 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 04:12:16.70 | Steven Woodside | And that's... |
| 04:12:17.02 | Chris Zapata | or an encouragement from that. It wasn't a big deal, is why it's still there. |
| 04:12:21.01 | Amy Howard | I know. I |
| 04:12:23.62 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
| 04:12:23.88 | Amy Howard | But I said parking lot for Naikon. Oh, get it? Parking lot. |
| 04:12:30.49 | Steven Woodside | I was clearly not part of the land. I don't think we should tend to touch that. portion at all for one. |
| 04:12:39.13 | Amy Howard | I just meant parking lot. Yeah, I meant parking lot in terms of the process. So. I think you thought the last slide So zip zoom. Don't worry. We got through that and we're getting the public comment, a little bit clear as much on some of these things. I mean, these things we're going to have. I've made a list of these things. |
| 04:13:00.51 | Joan Cox | I, Thank you. |
| 04:13:01.74 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. |
| 04:13:02.00 | Joan Cox | . |
| 04:13:02.60 | Amy Howard | I'll coordinate with each other. We need to decide about what is next on our strategic planning process. We really do. So I'm happy to do, you have a comment right now, but you guys kind of danced around when to do strategic planning. And we talked, I didn't dance, we're not as a partner. But we started talking about the big ideas, you know, enhancing, you know, home struggling businesses, the friendship, the revenue, the infrastructure. And I captured those, right? Those are some maybe big priorities that are immediate priorities. But I think that showed me, or that should show you, I think, that you probably do need to start the strategic planning Later. I don't know I don't know how soon but You can. If you're gonna address these things, you're gonna have to start some sort of project. You can wait until the last fiscal year you could, but I would put these under the agenda then. Do you guys wanna do another workshop like this to start that process? Or do you wanna try to squeeze it into several |
| 04:14:00.40 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. |
| 04:14:00.45 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 04:14:09.97 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:14:10.02 | Steven Woodside | I think it was the problem I see, oh, it's trying to do too much. |
| 04:14:14.64 | Joan Cox | Yeah. I agree. |
| 04:14:16.36 | Steven Woodside | to the letter. |
| 04:14:16.97 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Okay, so suppose we want to do it on a Saturday. When do you guys want to have a next Saturday session? In what month? |
| 04:14:26.81 | Chris Zapata | Well, personally, I wouldn't be next week. because I do think they'll find the way soon. And we need to generate big revenue. It's a super ball, actually, so I wouldn't even have- Yeah, it's got to do super balls on Sunday. |
| 04:14:34.00 | Amy Howard | It's supposed to be |
| 04:14:34.84 | Unknown | All right. |
| 04:14:38.07 | Amy Howard | You guys have a Super Bowl that you know your super thing. Yeah, we have our people like yeah |
| 04:14:40.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:14:40.19 | Chris Zapata | Yeah. |
| 04:14:40.36 | Unknown | your super thing? |
| 04:14:42.03 | Chris Zapata | I'm not sure I agree. The strategic planning approach is very famous. It's a big encelotum. |
| 04:14:48.59 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 04:14:48.61 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 04:14:50.75 | Chris Zapata | that I'm proposing and I'm looking for some people's support. If it's not there, it's not there, but there are pieces of this that I think are in and of themselves going to be long processes. And in fact, we know they don't move the needle in anywhere like the 1022 that we can start right away. If you have that on a city council agenda, talk it out, the big part of the future plan and it is on its own. So to the CDA approach. So I would say 1022. |
| 04:14:57.37 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:15:16.35 | Amy Howard | Okay. Thank you. Okay. Mayor, what's the one side? |
| 04:15:20.27 | Steven Woodside | What time? I agree that some of these things are on the run. Significant. And I don't want to wait. incorporated in a long term strategic plan. I agree with you and I may not agree with each of you. specific things. |
| 04:15:37.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:15:38.00 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:15:38.02 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 04:15:38.06 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:15:38.11 | Steven Woodside | that's why we put it out. |
| 04:15:38.19 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:15:40.03 | Steven Woodside | Get it? We want to schedule it for I would rather see a discussion like this. Like, I can't even... |
| 04:15:46.98 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 04:15:47.41 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 04:15:47.81 | Joan Cox | At a council meeting? No. Of course. He would rather see this type of session than a council leader. |
| 04:15:49.11 | Steven Woodside | Oh, yes. |
| 04:15:53.95 | Steven Woodside | I think this is very productive. |
| 04:15:55.30 | Joan Cox | When would you like to have the next discussion like this? |
| 04:15:58.58 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 04:15:58.76 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:15:58.81 | Steven Woodside | Well, |
| 04:15:58.86 | Joan Cox | Bye. |
| 04:15:59.03 | Amy Howard | Let me just say what? No, I just want to hear. Yeah, what? What? Bye. You just finished. |
| 04:16:05.93 | Steven Woodside | I didn't say yet. |
| 04:16:08.08 | Amy Howard | I know. I'm just going to push back just a little bit on your |
| 04:16:12.02 | Jill Hoffman | proposition and you can't have a discussion like this. quote, at a council meeting, You just structure it. for this time of discussion. Yeah, that's all. You just say, our discussion for the next. you know. hour and a half is going to be on strategic planning. And that's what our discussions we just don't load up your council meeting with |
| 04:16:31.08 | Melissa Blaustein | Bye. |
| 04:16:35.78 | Jill Hoffman | five business items. You say our discussion tonight is going to be answered. Well, it's like, |
| 04:16:41.57 | Steven Woodside | I would, I would, I would as a separate special meeting and welcome. |
| 04:16:42.74 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 04:16:47.34 | Jill Hoffman | Why is why? |
| 04:16:48.24 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:16:48.31 | Steven Woodside | Because then you don't have to go through all of the other |
| 04:16:50.75 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:16:50.77 | Amy Howard | They're on the agenda, they know what thing about coming on the agenda. So that's true. Your agenda is strategic planning, a study question on strategic plans. That's all. I know last year we did not have time. to have a special study session in the middle of a city council meeting. |
| 04:17:07.83 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 04:17:08.10 | Amy Howard | Bye. |
| 04:17:08.22 | Carolyn Revell | you |
| 04:17:08.27 | Amy Howard | Thank you. Priority. If your priority is strategic planning. That's your priority. If you look at your, what you said as your priorities as a city council and you say strategic planning is our priority, then that's your priority. A lot of if I look at our city council agenda going forward, |
| 04:17:25.36 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 04:17:26.16 | Amy Howard | I bet I think that's some things that aren't. |
| 04:17:27.71 | Jill Hoffman | as much of Bern's. |
| 04:17:29.36 | Steven Woodside | Let's not try to bring something. |
| 04:17:30.14 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 04:17:30.27 | Jill Hoffman | that |
| 04:17:34.02 | Steven Woodside | Bye. All I'm saying is I like this form. |
| 04:17:37.87 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 04:17:38.32 | Steven Woodside | and we'll leave the schedule. If it's on a council night at the special meeting, The reason is this format was under different rules when they by your proposal. |
| 04:17:49.12 | Amy Howard | And may I clarify, it seems to me |
| 04:17:49.17 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 04:17:53.31 | Amy Howard | that whatever you do, whether you talk about it at a meeting or another time like this. It would be to sort of like address these elements in the room Is that what it is to address these elements? Who is proposing that we focus on 10-22? A study session on 10-22? Yes. That's completely different than what this is. |
| 04:18:13.78 | Melissa Blaustein | Oh, yes. Thank you. |
| 04:18:14.49 | Amy Howard | That's right. So I don't know what Stephen- That's what I'm asking. |
| 04:18:14.50 | Melissa Blaustein | That's right. |
| 04:18:15.31 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 04:18:15.52 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:18:15.55 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 04:18:16.38 | Joan Cox | That's what I'm asking. I think Stephen also is talking about spending sessions in New York. |
| 04:18:21.56 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:18:21.58 | Steven Woodside | Well, |
| 04:18:21.62 | Joan Cox | No problem. |
| 04:18:21.66 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 04:18:21.93 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:18:21.95 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 04:18:21.98 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Or or is it a strategic plan into the next strategic planning question. |
| 04:18:27.72 | Steven Woodside | I think you both, that we need to talk about what we think the next step is. Okay? I don't think you can buy that. I agree. So I think we need to. |
| 04:18:31.02 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:18:40.91 | Steven Woodside | for the purpose of advancing 22 or 3 I have to accept goals this year 30 for me |
| 04:18:45.82 | SPEAKER_00 | Thank you. |
| 04:18:45.86 | Unknown | . |
| 04:18:45.89 | SPEAKER_00 | Yeah. All right. |
| 04:18:45.99 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:18:46.03 | Unknown | I can't recall this year. |
| 04:18:53.22 | Steven Woodside | We can do one of those, but not three or whatever. Get that out of the way and start doing it. |
| 04:18:55.66 | Joan Cox | So, |
| 04:18:58.16 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 04:18:58.18 | Joan Cox | So would you like us to delegate that |
| 04:19:00.03 | Carolyn Revell | SCHEDULING TO THE |
| 04:19:00.98 | Joan Cox | Agenda Siding Committee. |
| 04:19:02.31 | Steven Woodside | happy to do that okay |
| 04:19:02.33 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:19:03.97 | Steven Woodside | Well, I'm not happy. |
| 04:19:05.30 | Amy Howard | Bye. That's fine. I think that there's a balance. |
| 04:19:08.98 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 04:19:09.03 | Amy Howard | think there are |
| 04:19:10.02 | Melissa Blaustein | Specific strategic planning system would add to the regular agenda because it's a lot to ask. for a four hour, seven hour, That didn't work. |
| 04:19:20.45 | Amy Howard | Council members, but I do think we will need at least one, I think not two separate workshops that are dedicated to planning at some point. But I think it's a balance. I hear what |
| 04:19:21.25 | Angeline Loeffler | Bye. |
| 04:19:28.70 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 04:19:28.74 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. |
| 04:19:28.97 | Jill Hoffman | I like that. |
| 04:19:29.75 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay. |
| 04:19:32.23 | Amy Howard | still saying about I support a special meeting. I do too, I do too. But I think it's a both and situation. So is the agenda setting committee clear on the direction or sort of incense from council? |
| 04:19:36.89 | Angeline Loeffler | Thank you. |
| 04:19:46.12 | Steven Woodside | we have to find a, and we have to then That's the word right now is it. two hours, four hours, six hours. How long is that? We've got a lot of work already. |
| 04:19:56.31 | Amy Howard | Yeah. The objective, what is your objective for the next meeting? If your objective is to narrow this list down before you talk about general strategic planning, which I think is your objective. Yeah. And I think it's at least a two hours. I think it's two hours. It's not five, it's not seven. Yeah. |
| 04:20:07.33 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 04:20:13.24 | Amy Howard | But it doesn't have to be me. I mean, but you could do that. This would not be you. I know. I know. I love you guys. I'm great. |
| 04:20:17.07 | Unknown | I know. |
| 04:20:17.83 | Unknown | I don't know. |
| 04:20:20.05 | Chris Zapata | and originally. Okay, so she's going to do a summer movie. The Amsterdam Council will see in draft four. The council says we're accepted. Great job done. But I would think if you're going to have a part of this conversation, you do want to prepare for the time to communicate. |
| 04:20:25.88 | Unknown | I mean, |
| 04:20:35.11 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 04:20:35.12 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 04:20:35.14 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:20:35.16 | Amy Howard | Just to discuss |
| 04:20:36.03 | Joan Cox | the prioritization of patients for the next step in strategic planning. |
| 04:20:41.52 | Unknown | I agree. Go through the report. Someone's going to have to go do her report. I'm sure you heard. Exactly. |
| 04:20:48.94 | Amy Howard | Let's talk. You talk about me later. fun |
| 04:20:51.71 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:20:51.83 | Steven Woodside | I like the idea of having the elevator. Are we starting? |
| 04:21:00.15 | Unknown | to our plan. |
| 04:21:01.28 | Steven Woodside | at all. making our case with this and that with each other That's fine. He brings back to okay, you got it. |
| 04:21:09.63 | Amy Howard | So guys, we only have 14 minutes left and we have other women. |
| 04:21:12.77 | Steven Woodside | We will find a three-hour session. Okay. We'll survey Is it no way to make sure it works with your calendar and we'll do it sooner |
| 04:21:24.03 | Chris Zapata | by the way, actually not first or third Tuesday, it'll be a different Tuesday. |
| 04:21:29.34 | Amy Howard | I can't do purse or 13 if you want me, if I got my own. |
| 04:21:32.75 | Steven Woodside | You have your own. |
| 04:21:33.39 | Amy Howard | I have my own priorities to prioritize. |
| 04:21:34.64 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. So we'll talk with her separately by your availability more typically on a weekend or later in the week. |
| 04:21:45.04 | Amy Howard | I mean, you can participate by Zoom too. |
| 04:21:45.26 | Steven Woodside | I mean, you can participate by this. |
| 04:21:46.77 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:21:48.14 | Amy Howard | We'll figure it out. Yeah. We're going to make it work. So we're delegating to the, yeah, we'll figure it out. Agenda setting. I'm going to send you all my dates. You guys, whatever you decide, I'm going to do the report. I'll have that this week. I'm telling you, I'm not sure. |
| 04:21:59.31 | Melissa Blaustein | I'm not sure. session. |
| 04:22:01.96 | Amy Howard | I feel like this is like shorter and more frequent rather than three to five hours. Because I mean, personally, that would be my both because it's harder to maintain productivity, I feel, the longer you go up. Well, you're part of the agenda site, so you get to make those two set of graph papers. That's fine. I mean, I'm not even opposed to three hours. It's just that if we have several three hour workshops, it's a lot of, |
| 04:22:24.73 | Steven Woodside | We're going to debate two for your face. Thank you. |
| 04:22:26.57 | Amy Howard | happily married. I'm happy to come up. |
| 04:22:28.52 | Steven Woodside | Well, |
| 04:22:29.79 | Amy Howard | We'll work on it. Let's take a look on it. I agree. I agree. Thank you, Amy. I'm here. I'm here. |
| 04:22:36.74 | Angeline Loeffler | I'm here. Bye. |
| 04:22:37.48 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 04:22:37.52 | Angeline Loeffler | Thank you. |
| 04:22:37.85 | Amy Howard | I'm not. Thank you. All right. There's, The next steps identified, I will provide you. And if the mayor will do public comment. We only have one speaker. |
| 04:22:42.38 | Angeline Loeffler | The next step I've done |
| 04:22:45.97 | Unknown | Mayor, we'll |
| 04:22:49.15 | Amy Howard | Thank you. So probably Carolyn has her hand up. |
| 04:22:50.87 | Angeline Loeffler | Bye. |
| 04:22:51.03 | Unknown | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 04:22:53.50 | Steven Woodside | Okay, so Charles. That MacDougall. I have one card. Happy to I can recognize you raise your hand. |
| 04:23:01.58 | Amy Howard | Thank you. |
| 04:23:01.61 | Carolyn Revell | It's fine. |
| 04:23:02.04 | Amy Howard | and then I can keep on the... |
| 04:23:04.03 | Unknown | method. |
| 04:23:06.68 | Carolyn Revell | Well, thank you for acknowledging me. So this is from the record. This is the second line. for the day that the public's invited to have input. And it's also the closing session. So looking at the thing actually from the resident perspective, I'd like to offer insights from the resident perspective. We have. inconvenient truths that were actually addressed here today. And that's meaningful. One of the inconvenience truths that came out in the 2020 calendar year of Buffett Commons was this overwhelming lack of confidence in the council. and If you think about some of the big hits, like in the first part of the year and then mid-year, there were huge waves of people who just felt that they were being ignored for what they had in mind for this town, and they didn't feel like there was really representative government. And a good example of what happened here today is when we first got out here in the morning, Someone made reference to an email that Steven Woodside sent out yesterday or the day before. And how many people saw it? I didn't see it, and anybody I asked in the room said they didn't see it. And that actually speaks to part of how we end up losing their grip on the public confidence, because we've got friendless, we've got the parents that have their own protocols. They would have one consistent voice from everybody. We really ought to be doing a consolidation of communication. We're going to have to say we can do it. But somehow, the people need to be uniformly informed. And so far, that's not happening. The other thing that we have to look at too, That was also addressed here was more of it's going to be voice citizen input. So I love people watching. I know that. And, um, You are answering that today just by saying, let's do this again soon. So that we can keep it going. Because this is our chance to see how we think of it from the inside up. But the last thing that I wanted to touch on in terms of the big future today, is that looking ahead for the technology, what we're going to say, well, this is right, you have to. whether you're ready to engage it or not, you still have to face it. Otherwise, |
| 04:25:19.01 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
| 04:25:19.03 | Unknown | and the down court. |
| 04:25:20.63 | Carolyn Revell | Yeah. |
| 04:25:21.44 | Unknown | Yeah, time's up. It's up there. |
| 04:25:24.11 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:25:25.31 | Unknown | Time up, but Matt Mayer, |
| 04:25:28.83 | Unknown | and then, |
| 04:25:28.92 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:25:29.41 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 04:25:30.35 | Carolyn Revell | Absolutely. Thank you very much. And because if we add Academy Award results, |
| 04:25:35.63 | Unknown | that. |
| 04:25:35.67 | Walfred Solorzano | You know, that was my first time using this, yeah, yeah. |
| 04:25:35.80 | Unknown | All right. |
| 04:25:43.16 | Walfred Solorzano | Let me see if we have anybody online. I don't know. |
| 04:25:46.05 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 04:25:46.08 | Walfred Solorzano | Oh, more people here. |
| 04:25:46.13 | Steven Woodside | Oh. I'm not. Carolyn? All right. |
| 04:25:52.46 | Jill Hoffman | very small And then secondly, I had an experience of planning for my family community. I was very interested in the community development. I'm a member of our. Yes, I know as the families looking at all the different zoning zones, we had something called the optional method of development for our central business district zones, which allowed the developers to apply for this option. Right. density in return to getting back to the energies. I realized our context was quite different, but we did a 40-40 seat performing a lot sooner given the type of developer there because we allowed so much density. So, reading that here, there was some ways to consider that the zoning revision that was an entity package from the end. |
| 04:26:34.56 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:26:45.77 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 04:26:59.32 | Unknown | Thank you. Darn and Brock. |
| 04:27:02.64 | Angeline Loeffler | her. I just want to say I go to a lot of City Council meetings, and so it's really great to see more of a collaborative conversation with their refreshing and not so privative. So I'm really enjoying that. I would say, please don't lose momentum. I mean, we have really important problems to solve, and I feel like there's some energy here. So the more you delay it, the more I think you're gonna lose the energy. So being agile now, They're just important to All right. I think 1022 is a big issue and it no longer should have done. And so I think it's really good to have a good faith conversation about that. It was, I think, passed in 1984. And we all, you know, when I talk to residents, a lot of younger people are part of our group, Positive People for Sausalito, and they always ask, what is going on with the partnership? Why are there so many empty lots? Why are there riding RVs? Why are the big office buildings, you know, not even full or half full? So it really is in the elephant in the room for a lot of the residents I talk to, and it's time to address it. It no longer serves us. Um, We have a lot of important things we could do. Like we could fix our roads. We could generate the money to do this. And it's time that we really have an honest conversation about the way we're running things now and trade-offs. We could have the money to do these things, and I would love to see this council start to have conversations about that and move that forward. |
| 04:28:19.88 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:28:27.57 | Angeline Loeffler | And And then I would just say as a pretty thing, like really look into, I think we talked about like, There's pros and cons to everything and having honest conversations about that, like a vacancy tax. I know we all like, yeah, I don't like seeing the empty businesses either, but there also are cons to that. They could, hurt some of the businesses. or hurt the lords for that. So definitely look at the cons. There are some cons and there are folks too. That's it, but I really enjoyed the conversation I've got for me personally. We spent a little too much time on the mission, vision, and values. I think it's all important, but where I really got interested was at 1130, right before lunch. That is the conversation I really wanted. |
| 04:29:12.88 | Unknown | Thank you. . Amen. |
| 04:29:14.43 | Steven Woodside | Oh, yeah. |
| 04:29:15.60 | Angeline Loeffler | And. |
| 04:29:17.78 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:29:17.79 | Steven Woodside | offer anyone else. |
| 04:29:19.02 | Walfred Solorzano | Let me see. Yes, we have John. |
| 04:29:28.52 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 04:29:28.56 | Unknown | Hello, can you hear me? Yeah. Hi, this is John DeRay. Thanks for this session. It was really interesting. I wanted to make a comment about 1022. People may not realize that with 1022 in place, the marineship is filled with PR firms, architects, physicians, financial services, advertising companies, sports meds. with PR firms, architects, physicians, financial services, advertising companies, sports medicine, man caves, saunas, designers. So this idea that it's very restrictive, I think, needs to be rethought a little bit as a friendship is reimagined. I'm not saying 1022 doesn't need to be tweaked. But also it seems to me like what this is really about is incentivizing one property owner, a single property owner to do something with their property. Let's face it. Clipper, beautiful property. Schoonmarker is a beautiful property. Let's face it, Clipper, beautiful property. Schoonmaker is a beautiful property. One and three Harbor Drive, beautiful property. The Morgan property is really good shape. So for the most part, Marinchik is a beautiful property, but there's a poster child that's driving this. And this is really what this is all about. So that's it. Thank you very much. I'm sorry. |
| 04:31:04.06 | Unknown | you Set out. |
| 04:31:07.09 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. |
| 04:31:07.60 | Unknown | Oops. |
| 04:31:07.92 | Walfred Solorzano | Thank you. No more public speakers. |
| 04:31:12.00 | Brent Moore | I need you to go ahead. |
| 04:31:12.98 | Amy Howard | I just, I do, I was trying to wrap this up, you know, do all this and we're all trying to move back. And I have to, Thank you all for allowing me to be part of this. Hopefully it was helpful. Obviously, you know there's more work to be done, but I want to thank you all for the trust you placed in me and showing up. And I know I push back sometimes or try to wrap it up or put it in and check with staff because I just want you to be able to get all these things done. I didn't hear a bad idea in the bunch. And you guys, the residents should know that you have a really great set of elected officials serving you. So thank you. Thank you for that. Thank you. And then you want to wrap up in. I will. |
| 04:32:02.66 | Steven Woodside | to the city manager. |
| 04:32:03.94 | Chris Zapata | Yeah, I want to let fire restrict for allowing us to go and release them. And I'd like to say, yeah, I would thank all of you during this team for the organization. |
| 04:32:15.96 | Unknown | Oh, yeah. |
| 04:32:16.18 | Steven Woodside | Bye. |
| 04:32:18.68 | Unknown | Great. |
| 04:32:20.43 | Steven Woodside | And there was a public who came and stayed greatly the whole time and those who came very much for good and who all very much. Thank you. |
| 04:32:28.45 | Amy Howard | And John, take a note. you |
| 04:32:30.17 | Steven Woodside | Don't do it again. |
| 04:32:30.22 | Amy Howard | How are we going? And our chat. |
| 04:32:34.03 | Melissa Blaustein | It's great to have our staff here for the day, listening, participating, and waiting for the day. |
| 04:32:41.74 | Steven Woodside | We will adjourn both today's meeting and also on Tuesday night in memory of Annette Rose. And I just want to say that my wife is here and you are going to be taking the watercolors lab. I wish you showed that too. |
| 04:33:00.80 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:33:01.03 | Steven Woodside | Bye. |
| 04:33:01.05 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 04:33:01.07 | Steven Woodside | I'm not. And then I think this evening without violating the Brown Act, there might be a majority of council members attending the same |
| 04:33:09.12 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. |
| 04:33:09.92 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:33:11.28 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 04:33:11.29 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 04:33:11.38 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 04:33:11.76 | Unknown | And that's another example. |
| 04:33:13.72 | Steven Woodside | As it is, we're just too busy, John. Thank you. |
| 04:33:18.08 | Jill Hoffman | I didn't get any advice. |
| 04:33:19.56 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 04:33:19.97 | Unknown | Yeah. Thank you. |
| 04:33:22.62 | Unknown | you |
| 04:33:22.63 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:33:22.65 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:33:22.67 | Unknown | I'm so glad. |
| 04:33:23.07 | Unknown | You're not in the cold. |
| 04:33:23.38 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 04:33:24.00 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:33:24.05 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:33:24.12 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:33:28.72 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:33:28.74 | Unknown | adjourned. |
| 04:33:29.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:33:30.11 | Unknown | Amen. |
| 04:33:30.97 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 04:33:31.39 | Unknown | I'm not sure. We'll have. Thank you. |
| 04:33:32.98 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:33:33.35 | Chris Zapata | Thank you. |
Carolyn Revell — Neutral: Urged inclusion of green infrastructure and beautification projects in city priorities, highlighting partnerships with community organizations. ▶ 📄
Adrian Brinton — In Favor: Emphasized downtown economic vitality, water access improvements, and the need to increase city revenues through strategic partnerships. ▶ 📄
Brent Moore — In Favor: Suggested comprehensive capital improvement planning, financial incentives for businesses, and repeal of Ordinance 1022 to boost economic development. ▶ 📄
Chris Zapata — In Favor: Stressed interdependence in sustainability, climate action, and mobility, encouraging council to pursue forward-looking policies. ▶ 📄
Alice Merrill — Neutral: Requested improvements to public toilets, particularly at the city pier, noting poor conditions and lack of signage. ▶ 📄
Jill Hoffman — In Favor: Called for better waterfront access for boat visitors, public art on walls, and incentives to fill vacant storefronts. ▶ 📄
Linda Voss — In Favor: Urged prioritizing downtown and waterfront access, specifically fixing the city pier and Yichachi Park, with offers to assist with grant funding. ▶ 📄
Charlie (Online) — In Favor: Commented on Mayor Woodside's goals and praised the council's efforts on Measure K, highlighting the importance of majority support. ▶ 📄
Carolyn Revell (Second Comment) — Neutral: Highlighted the need for consistent public communication and confidence in council, urging more collaborative sessions like this meeting. ▶ 📄
Angeline Loeffler — In Favor: Appreciated the collaborative discussion, urged momentum on solving key issues like Ordinance 1022, and cautioned about trade-offs in policies like vacancy taxes. ▶ 📄
John DeRay (Online) — Against: Argued that Ordinance 1022 is less restrictive than perceived, noting diverse businesses in the Marinship, and suggested the push for repeal is driven by specific property interests. ▶ 📄