| Time | Speaker | Text |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00:32.33 | Deirdre Coyne | I call Justin. |
| 00:00:34.15 | Brandon Phipps | Yeah. |
| 00:01:06.52 | Deirdre Coyne | to get a |
| 00:01:07.83 | Unknown | Peace. |
| 00:02:07.49 | Brandon Phipps | Thank you. |
| 00:02:07.50 | Steven Woodside | or |
| 00:02:09.21 | Brandon Phipps | Figures are in the ceiling. See you. |
| 00:02:14.05 | Deirdre Coyne | May I hold the book first? |
| 00:02:16.15 | Kevin McGowan | Yeah. |
| 00:02:18.44 | Brandon Phipps | Yeah. |
| 00:02:21.02 | Deirdre Coyne | There he is. |
| 00:02:22.59 | Brandon Phipps | Yeah. So a couple of things are abnormal here. |
| 00:02:26.72 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. |
| 00:02:26.84 | Brandon Phipps | Thank you. And, Oh, and now suddenly we are getting audio coming through. |
| 00:02:33.63 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. |
| 00:02:33.78 | Brandon Phipps | So it might have suddenly become a non-issue. Thank you. |
| 00:02:36.95 | Deirdre Coyne | I'm going to sign in via Zoom over there just to like make sure you guys can hear me and everything. |
| 00:02:36.97 | Brandon Phipps | I'm going to. |
| 00:02:42.64 | Brandon Phipps | Okay. |
| 00:02:42.99 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. Okay. |
| 00:02:44.43 | Brandon Phipps | I do. So Justin and Key Digital, apparently they had an emergency meeting last week |
| 00:02:55.67 | Brandon Phipps | somebody somewhere in IT you So logged in on our computer here. |
| 00:03:05.67 | Lorna Newland | and then you can get it all around and it's probably all about |
| 00:03:10.31 | Brandon Phipps | Apparently audio wasn't coming through. Now it's coming through. It wasn't coming through to the recorder. They had it in the room, but it wasn't on the broadcast in the recorder. |
| 00:03:20.52 | Unknown | I told him the biggest thing he needs to check is that |
| 00:03:20.62 | Brandon Phipps | I'm going to go. I told him. Yeah. I guess he'll be good about it. I don't know. It sounded like they did, but now they're uh, the Marin TV show. sign it. and disappeared on Zoom. So I'm suddenly in here as, city clerk. Doesn't seem to be a problem though, because it's come through now, |
| 00:03:48.37 | Unknown | Yeah, yeah, so I'm guessing when they signed them to Zoom on the machine, they didn't have the Marine TV password. the board would probably add the sign in whatever |
| 00:03:56.85 | Brandon Phipps | Yeah, the thing is they wouldn't have... I had to type it in. unless they did something unusual with others. Okay. Yeah, I couldn't tell you. I wasn't here for that kickoff. |
| 00:04:13.39 | Brandon Phipps | So, Thank you. How's it going? I'm paying this. I unfortunately |
| 00:04:31.45 | Brandon Phipps | getting out of trouble enough. |
| 00:04:33.44 | Ken Peterson | No. |
| 00:05:09.70 | Brandon Phipps | digit letter in. I just joined Oh, that was you. Or this machine. |
| 00:05:18.34 | Unknown | Camera on the timeline again. |
| 00:05:23.10 | Unknown | Maybe people want to see one. Probably not. |
| 00:05:30.41 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. |
| 00:05:35.66 | Brandon Phipps | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:05:50.17 | Brandon Phipps | Thank you. Okay. Hello, Mr. Mayor. Hi there, how are you? I'm all right. How are you doing? |
| 00:06:01.93 | Brandon Phipps | We've got any questions for that. |
| 00:06:03.74 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:06:05.14 | Brandon Phipps | really yeah |
| 00:06:06.02 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:06:07.48 | Brandon Phipps | Yesterday, wow. |
| 00:06:08.68 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 00:06:09.91 | Brandon Phipps | How jet lagged are you? |
| 00:06:11.79 | Steven Woodside | Um, probably find out in a while. Right now, Missed to 11 feet. Thank you. |
| 00:06:25.08 | Brandon Phipps | how long were you in Portugal? about almost two weeks. Okay, just long enough to adjust to their clock? |
| 00:06:34.97 | Steven Woodside | of your I think. |
| 00:06:36.98 | Brandon Phipps | Thank you. |
| 00:06:37.05 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:06:37.08 | Brandon Phipps | you |
| 00:06:37.25 | Steven Woodside | 12. for involvement. There'll be. How do you do this around the globe of nonstop? And we said, Your name, Neil. same. out. Thank you. |
| 00:07:01.30 | Unknown | . |
| 00:07:06.95 | Brandon Phipps | Yeah. I think I was easier when I was younger. |
| 00:07:15.29 | Brandon Phipps | to |
| 00:07:16.22 | Steven Woodside | Yesterday back daytime fire, even in the morning, at breakfast on the plate. Lots of soldiers. Thank you. |
| 00:07:28.13 | Sophia Collier | Thank you. |
| 00:07:28.38 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:07:28.50 | Virginia Irwin | Thank you. |
| 00:07:28.64 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 00:07:28.84 | Emmett Yeazell | Thank you. |
| 00:07:32.10 | Emmett Yeazell | they're all good |
| 00:07:33.53 | Virginia Irwin | And what's going on right now with the contracts. |
| 00:07:41.19 | Deirdre Coyne | And that is... Signing on right now, she said. |
| 00:07:44.62 | Unknown | Can I join this one? |
| 00:07:46.78 | Deirdre Coyne | Oh, perfect. Yeah, I saw that. |
| 00:07:48.48 | Unknown | the video on. |
| 00:07:50.47 | Deirdre Coyne | Okay, great. |
| 00:07:51.03 | Alex Alioto | Thank you. |
| 00:07:51.18 | Deirdre Coyne | you |
| 00:07:51.42 | Alex Alioto | Thank you so much. |
| 00:07:53.56 | Deirdre Coyne | Yeah, I don't know what happened last time with the sound. |
| 00:07:56.02 | Alex Alioto | or Of course it seems okay. We played that. |
| 00:08:00.95 | Brandon Phipps | Thank you. |
| 00:08:00.97 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. |
| 00:08:04.06 | Unknown | I think we're going to do the pairing. |
| 00:08:07.25 | Brandon Phipps | to have them on so that when she joins, she'll hear. |
| 00:08:09.96 | Unknown | Yeah, I figured one we're closer to would be good. |
| 00:08:14.55 | Brandon Phipps | that was. |
| 00:08:14.98 | Unknown | Okay. Yeah. |
| 00:08:23.73 | Unknown | And |
| 00:08:56.71 | Jeff Luntrell | It probably works, I don't know. Thank you. |
| 00:09:02.17 | Brandon Phipps | Yeah, it looks like everything's patching through correctly now. We're just waiting for Deidre. |
| 00:09:10.04 | Brandon Phipps | on her end. |
| 00:09:11.05 | Allison Deal | Oh, I was able to do that. |
| 00:09:13.11 | Brandon Phipps | Yeah. |
| 00:09:13.45 | Allison Deal | I logged in and I could hear you guys. you |
| 00:09:15.67 | Brandon Phipps | Yeah. |
| 00:09:15.89 | Allison Deal | Yeah. |
| 00:09:15.94 | Brandon Phipps | Yeah. You want to just text? |
| 00:09:18.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:09:18.98 | Brandon Phipps | had already been |
| 00:09:19.98 | Unknown | that test. |
| 00:09:20.50 | Brandon Phipps | Thank you. |
| 00:09:20.53 | Unknown | Oh my God. |
| 00:09:20.53 | Allison Deal | Yeah. I don't know. |
| 00:09:22.15 | Unknown | Well, her phones are there, so she'll be back. Sure. |
| 00:09:25.63 | Allison Deal | I thought you guys could see because, you know, the participants. |
| 00:10:09.96 | Steven Woodside | Okay. You'll have to speak up a little bit if there's noise in the background, but I'll let you know. Okay. |
| 00:10:15.11 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. |
| 00:10:15.93 | Steven Woodside | How was your flight? |
| 00:10:16.34 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:10:19.46 | Jill Hoffman | The three of them were fine. |
| 00:10:20.05 | Sharna Brockett | Thank you. |
| 00:10:21.37 | Alice Merrill | Okay. Three. Okay. |
| 00:10:23.23 | Sharna Brockett | Katie. |
| 00:10:23.98 | Alice Merrill | Yeah. |
| 00:10:24.39 | Sharna Brockett | I'm trying to figure out who's in the audience besides Joe. I've got one. But you know, I think maybe he's just showing up, right? |
| 00:10:31.98 | Steven Woodside | Yeah, there's a... |
| 00:10:33.35 | Lorna Newland | Okay. |
| 00:10:34.36 | Steven Woodside | So we're all here. |
| 00:10:35.22 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:10:36.94 | Lorna Newland | Thank you. You always do that for us. Thank you. |
| 00:10:41.11 | Steven Woodside | So it's just a few minutes after 3 p.m. And I would like to call the meeting to order and ask that the roll be taken. |
| 00:10:49.62 | Deirdre Coyne | Good afternoon, Mayor and City Council. Today's meeting of July 21st, 2026 is being held at 420 Litho Street, City Council Council Chambers. It is also being broadcast live via Zoom on the City's website and cable TV channel 27. I'll call roll Councilmember Cox here. Councilmember Hoffman. |
| 00:11:07.25 | Jill Hoffman | Here. |
| 00:11:07.54 | Tim Rogers | Thank you. |
| 00:11:10.25 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 00:11:11.13 | Deirdre Coyne | Councilmember Sobieski. Thank you. Vice Mayor Blaustein? Here. Mayor Woodside. |
| 00:11:15.74 | Steven Woodside | I'm here and Jill is a few hours and several thousand miles away at the address posted on the agenda. |
| 00:11:23.64 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. |
| 00:11:23.65 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 00:11:23.94 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. |
| 00:11:24.97 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. You want to say anything, Jill? |
| 00:11:25.78 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. I'm seven hours from you guys. |
| 00:11:28.08 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 00:11:28.72 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, I'm at the location posted on the agenda. I'm in the business center alone in a room with a drawer shut. |
| 00:11:37.71 | Steven Woodside | Okay, thank you very much. We are now prepared to go into closed session to discuss the items on the posted agenda. And I will read them quickly. Item C1 conference with real property negotiators as authorized by government code section 5495 6.8. This is regarding the property commonly known as the cast Gidley re marina at 1620 bridgeway avenue. And the negotiator is the city manager and city attorney for the city and the Sausalito Community Boating Center for the center. Item C2, conference with legal counsel. One item of anticipated litigation, possible initiation of litigation, as authorized by government code section 54956.9 D4. Item C3, conference of labor negotiators. pursuant to government code section 54957.6 these are for the unrepresented employees and the hr director kathy nikitas is our negotiator in that regard item c4 public employment performance evaluation as authorized by government code section 54957 the title of the office involved city manager and c5 similarly public, as authorized by the same code section, again the title, city manager. And finally, item C.6, conference with legal counsel for existing litigation, pursuant to government code section 54956.9D1, and that's the case of naples versus mcmarin inc doing business as a spinnaker versus marin county supreme court case number c civil nine six four six |
| 00:12:43.88 | Samantha Schubert | that. |
| 00:13:30.18 | Steven Woodside | Having said that, are there any public comments on closed session items before we go into closed session? |
| 00:13:37.39 | Deirdre Coyne | We have one online. |
| 00:13:38.82 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:13:39.87 | Deirdre Coyne | I think Dan uh, |
| 00:13:43.50 | Dan Stedging | Thank you, council members. Can you hear me? |
| 00:13:46.04 | Steven Woodside | Yes, we can. If you could identify yourself, that would be helpful. |
| 00:13:49.84 | Dan Stedging | Sure, you can read my name there. I'm Dan Stedging from Pacifica, California. I have all the sympathies in the world for your current city manager. Elaine Forbes. Your city was handed a hot potato. This was a known problem with this employee. in her $40,000 and $50,000 a year job at the port, she made almost $2,800 per hour on there. By the time I look at her costs to settle this incident. She'll be making almost $11,000 an hour from the city of Sausalito, which would be a California record. She didn't appear out of nowhere. She had a champion. She came, someone said, hey, You should take a look at this person and she was interviewed. Someone said she was great. Somehow the system fell apart and and someone who probably shouldn't have been hired, got hired. You know, the, the most expensive PR firm in the nation. is representing her, Sam Singer. And they'll tell you that ASIANS MAY HAVE A HIGHER precedents of hepatitis B Black folks might be predisposed to hypertension and stroke. And that, She was predisposed to daytime yacht drinking But the reality is you had an employee with the problem, Everyone knew it. Everyone at the port knew it. City of San Francisco. The Port of San Francisco stuck your city with the hot potato, and now it's going to cost Sausalito taxpayers over a million dollars to settle this by the time it's done. Please use all transparency in this issue. Please leave all files open. Please let everyone see everything. The people deserve an explanation for what happened and how this fell through the cracks. And I sure hope this person gets the help they need. Thank you. |
| 00:15:54.68 | Steven Woodside | Okay, any other comments on closed session items? |
| 00:15:57.75 | Deirdre Coyne | No more public comments on my |
| 00:15:59.61 | Steven Woodside | Very well, we'll now go into closed session. |
| 00:16:05.11 | Steven Woodside | In our open session. Thank you very much. Let's begin with the Pledge of Allegiance. Alice Merrill, would you kindly lead us in the pledge? |
| 00:16:21.08 | Alice Merrill | I would. |
| 00:16:25.77 | Alice Merrill | I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. |
| 00:16:36.90 | Babette McDougall | Yeah. |
| 00:16:42.41 | Babette McDougall | It's a wonderful day. |
| 00:16:51.40 | Steven Woodside | So I have a few things to report. We did have a closed session. We started at 3 PM. almost all of the items on the posted agenda. We did not, however, consider item C1 regarding the community boating center. So therefore, we have absolutely nothing to report out regarding that. With respect to item number two, anticipated litigation, we gave instructions, if you will, to the city attorney to explore potential causes of action regarding the property transaction involving Pelican Harbor. And Let's see, if you give additional instruction. |
| 00:17:49.97 | Steven Woodside | Oh, and also to explore alternatives we may have regarding the protection of the tenants and the rental increases that apparently have been noticed. So we have more work to do on that, but we did ask our city attorney to explore in-depth options that we may have. Beyond that, there's nothing to report out at this time. With respect to item C2, this was our conference with labor negotiators regarding unrepresented employees. There's nothing to report out regarding that matter. And we do have reports on items C4 and C5. And let me just say that we did meet in closed session during which we discussed matters regarding City Manager Elaine Forbes. And since it is a personnel matter, There's not a lot that we can share publicly right now at this time. But I can tell you that no decisions were made regarding her employment. She remains on leave of absence. And I want to assure everyone that we are gathering and evaluating all of the facts surrounding this matter. Now, based on public statements that have been made by her family and representatives, our thoughts are with her and her family right now. And tonight, I'm asking everyone for patience and compassion. This moment... |
| 00:19:32.18 | Virginia Irwin | Recording in progress. |
| 00:19:34.60 | Steven Woodside | I guess it's being recorded now. Thank you. |
| 00:19:36.71 | Virginia Irwin | Thank you. |
| 00:19:36.94 | Steven Woodside | This moment calls for a sensitive balance between individual privacy rights and the rights the public have for accountability. It's not easy. It's not easy. But we will get through this. And in order to continue city business as seamlessly as possible, we are in discussions with Sausalito's former city manager, Chris Zapata, to come back on a temporary advisory role as soon as possible. Chris has indicated his willingness to do so. He's currently the assistant county executive for the county of Marin. And he would be, if we can complete negotiations with him and the county, he would be on loan with us from the county. And we're grateful to Derek Johnson, the Marin County Chief Executive Officer, for facilitating Chris's assistance to help us stabilize matters as we go forward. And that's all we have to report out at this time on items C4 and C5. Lastly, we did give instructions to our legal counsel with regard to the last item, item C6, but no action was taken to report out. |
| 00:20:57.98 | Deirdre Coyne | Mr. Mayor, Councilmember Hoffman needs to be elevated as a panelist. She's not yet with us in the Zoom. |
| 00:20:58.74 | Steven Woodside | YES. |
| 00:21:02.89 | Steven Woodside | Oh my gosh. I assume that |
| 00:21:09.98 | Michelle McCullough | Okay. |
| 00:21:14.48 | Alice Merrill | Okay. |
| 00:21:14.95 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:21:20.71 | Steven Woodside | Ms. Hoffman is attending remotely. OK. And she's now here. |
| 00:21:28.17 | Jill Hoffman | I've been here. Nice to see you guys. |
| 00:21:29.45 | Steven Woodside | Okay, we understand you could hear us, but we couldn't see you. Now we can. Thank you. |
| 00:21:30.19 | Jill Hoffman | We are. |
| 00:21:36.61 | Steven Woodside | Okay, I'm now going to ask for approval of our agenda with one addition. In light of the number of items we have and the likelihood of a significant number of speakers, we're going to forego any special presentations, any announcements by the mayor, or reports from the committee. from the acting city manager at this time so that's off the agenda we will deal with everything else that is on the posted agenda unless there are suggestions for changes from any member of the council. |
| 00:22:10.81 | Joan Cox | I move approval of the agenda as amended. |
| 00:22:14.74 | Steven Woodside | Okay, all in favor, I guess we need a roll call because Jill is attending remotely. |
| 00:22:20.21 | Deirdre Coyne | Councilmember Cox? Yes. Councilmember Hoffman? Yes. Councilmember Sobieski? Vice Mayor Blaustein? Yes. Mayor Woodside? |
| 00:22:21.24 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 00:22:23.89 | Jill Hoffman | Yes. |
| 00:22:29.20 | Steven Woodside | Yes. Um, I'm about ready to move to communications, public communications, aha. And I know there are several. I just want to remind everyone, this is a time for public communications for matters that are not on the agenda. but are matters that are within our jurisdiction to handle, perhaps at a future date. So I just want to caution everyone that At this moment for just public communications, these are for matters not on tonight's agenda and within our jurisdiction. So with that understanding, I'm just going to go through these in a random order in which I've been handed them. The first speaker will be Jeff Luntrell. Okay, Lundfell, okay, Lundfell, followed by Rob McCullough. |
| 00:23:32.40 | Steven Woodside | You may proceed. Thank you. |
| 00:23:37.67 | Jeff Luntrell | and managed to point out that Elaine Forbes ran the San Francisco court for nine years. But she blackmailed her friends at the church, recently separated from an angel. Pempted to suit for God's fight. He could easily drop a dime on a dude. |
| 00:23:59.37 | Unknown | Well, there it is. We see Roger Boas' trafficking broker protected pedophile pimp and joker. So the untouchable trafficking triads in Tong gave up shrimp boy Choi two life sentences long. For Troy was working with public defender Adachi in San Francisco, Mayor Ed Lee. Oakland Police Chief Ann Kirkpatrick and Senator Leland Yee. in undercover ops, Kuan Yin. God, us of compassion... Merchant and the rest of untouchable traffickers. and justice for these women and children. In spiritual warfare, the currents run deep. run hidden deep, the time has arrived for justice, as you sow, you reap. Like comprehending the Elaine Wary of burdens carried ended up on the Lisa Marie, being the daughter of Elvis, a.k.a. King of the Cherokee, is the lost tribe of David's city and the power of the Lion of Judah as the authority of Christ the world could never hide, even so connected to Brother Buddha possessing truly, truly the awesome lion's roar as eagles roar. Thank you. |
| 00:25:11.80 | Steven Woodside | Mr. McCullough, you'll be followed by Peter Alexander. |
| 00:25:24.54 | Robert McCullough | Good evening, Mayor and Councilmembers. My name is Robert McCullough. I'm a resident of Pelican Harbor and Sausalito. Have a few remarks about the situation at Pelican Harbor. On July 1st, attorneys for the Flynn family informed the city that they had found a way around the Council's ruling by relying on a lease transfer precedent. involving a shopping center restaurant lease. I believe it was a Mexican restaurant. . Hardly analogous to California public land trust issues, I would say. Notably, the letter did not identify the harbor's new owner At the last meeting, I asked the council to determine who actually owns Pelican Harbor today. Marina residents have conducted our own investigation through the Secretary of State and uncovered multiple LPs and LLCs associated with Pelican Harbor, some formed as recently as June 26th. yet not identifies Mr. Rizavi as an owner, partner, or any other party to those new LLCs. Meanwhile, Mr. Rezavi has issued directives and rent increase notices under his own name rather than through the Pelican Harbor Associates LP. To date, tenants have received no formal communication from Pelican Harbor Associates regarding the ownership or rent increases. The notices arrived instead in envelopes from an estate attorney. The city's incomplete response to my CPI requests has led me to ask |
| 00:26:39.19 | Samantha Schubert | Thank you. |
| 00:26:43.29 | Robert McCullough | not what happened at Pelican Harbor, but how it has been allowed to happen. For more than 15 years, Mr. Rezavi has operated neighboring Bridgeway Marina as a marine service center, despite offering no marine services, no riggers, sailmakers, mechanics, woodworkers, or fiberglass facilities such as KKMI. that fit that designation, Bridgeway plainly does not. It's inconceivable to me that both the city of Sausalito and BCDC could have been unaware of this arrangement for 15 years. During that time, Mr. Orozavi accumulated numerous citations involving safety, fire protection, and other matters. many of which he simply ignored. THE LESSON APPEARS TO BE THAT HE that he has learned the city findings and citations can simply be disregarded. For centuries, political philosophers such as John Locke have recognized that government rests on a social contract. Citizens obey the law in exchange for the government's faithful stewardship of the public trust and equal enforcement of the rules. The result here is profound and long-term confidence in the city can effectively protect citizens. |
| 00:27:47.57 | Samantha Schubert | Thank you. |
| 00:27:47.59 | Alice Merrill | And long. |
| 00:27:48.02 | Steven Woodside | I'm like, |
| 00:27:49.24 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 00:27:49.26 | Steven Woodside | TUNE ME. |
| 00:27:51.94 | Robert McCullough | the social contract between Sausalito and City Res appears to be breached. Thank you. |
| 00:27:57.04 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. And if I know you've communicated some of this in writing, but I would appreciate if you could submit your remarks to the thank you to the city manager. Thank you. So Peter Alexander followed by Lori Flynn. |
| 00:28:21.20 | Peter Alexander | Those who seek to save their lives shall lose them. I want to say thank you to Elaine Forbes and to all slaves and inmates listening at this time. As Martin Luther King said, one man wrongfully incarcerated, so are we all. When the Abu Jamal still down after 48 years, Green Beret Surgeon McDonald, 54 years, and Shrimp Boy Chow is looking at two life terms, they're all innocent. To appreciate this plight with spiritual acuity, 2020, in these such times of trouble plenty, a message given from on high, residing in each true heart, never to die. Prepare ye now, for by July 29th days, truly, truly, mighty acts of God displays. Some say atonement will be okay. Better still, the better pill be hold. Yes, comes now judgment day. I am Peter. I am hell-bent and heaven-sent. Judgment Day I am commanding, meeting the lights to powder this earth in a torrent. All have been wally, many found wanting, in a nation quite abhorrent. Comes now fierce angels and my dogs of war. Great anger does flare and comes now to bear unbeatable, unshakable spiritual firepower. Rosebud, rosebud, beautiful rosebud flower. I am delivering the freeze frame pill. I am commanding Earth standing still. 40 nights, 40 days. Jimmy Hendrix, Purple Haze. Perhaps come join me for a walk with Brother Enoch, because I am also Commander Alexander Truth on TikTok. It is so, it is done. Aho. I also want to finish by saying that, um, Operation Vampire Killer is in full play. that the anchor outs were disregarded as their ship Just went away. And now this other group of people, they want everybody to help them out. Well, perhaps our power lies in helping those less fortunate than us. and therefore it'll garner support from all arenas. We're the most powerful people in the most powerful state. to fulfill our fate is destiny's date. And that's a freedom general strike of 40 days and 40 nights. Thank you, sir. This game never ends. Thank you for your time. |
| 00:30:24.56 | Steven Woodside | Okay, thank you, sir. Lori Flynn followed by Sophia Collier. |
| 00:30:39.31 | Lori Flynn | I have a different topic. |
| 00:30:44.27 | Lori Flynn | Mayor Bice. |
| 00:30:45.45 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. Thank you, Laurie. |
| 00:30:47.67 | Lori Flynn | Bye. |
| 00:30:47.99 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 00:30:48.84 | Lori Flynn | Acting City Manager. My name is Lori Flynn. I live at Two Cypress Place in Whiskey Springs, and I've been there for almost 23 years. I wish to talk about my concerns at the proposed development at One Harbor Drive. I've been following the housing element Since about 2010, I think. I've listened to many city council meetings, usually from home. And I've gone to discussion groups and filled out surveys. Thank you. So I'm aware of what we've been needing to do. I knew we'd need to have housing at the north end of town. but we seem to be getting most of it. MLK Park and I believe the Corporation Yard is still part of still on the plan, and those are fine. You know, we fought a little for MLK Park. |
| 00:31:42.35 | Samantha Schubert | You know, |
| 00:31:44.96 | Lori Flynn | But those can fit into the community, and they'll be fine. However, one Harbor Drive with its, I think it's 294 units or something close to that. cannot be, it's immense. A smaller footprint, a smaller number of units could be accommodated and incorporated into this. but not what is projected. I do remember in all these different meetings and talks and things, there was a talk about spreading things throughout Sausalito, but I feel like they're not being spread very far outside of the north end of town. I ask you to require a full secret review of this project because of its many impacts. including traffic, Flooding. emergency access infrastructure, And last but not least. Neighborhood character. Thank you for your time. |
| 00:32:49.90 | Steven Woodside | Thank you for your comments. And just to remind people, because this particular matter and others perhaps are not on the agenda, we're not able to take actions on any requests that are made tonight. But we do want to make sure that our city attorney and our city manager are aware of these things for follow up as needed. And also, some of these matters will first arrive at places like the Planning Commission and, And might be dealt with at that juncture before they come to our attention on an agenda. And just having said those comments, Sophia Collier, I think you might be here to speak on the same topic. |
| 00:33:33.40 | Sophia Collier | Yes, I am. I'm here on a few topics. But the first thing I want to do is I want to present our petition, which is signed by 518 residents and growing members. and ask the city to perform a CEQA review as part of the evaluation of the project. at One Harbor Drive. And I reference the letter from SOS attorneys Lizzo Drury that sent to the council on May 19th, which established the city authority to do the analysis and also documents why CEQA review, in fact, Is mandatory. The one Harbor Drive project is far larger than what was examined in the housing EIR It's 129 units was what we saw in Measure J, and now it is 294 units. It's also requesting waivers of most of Sausalito's zoning requirements, which they have the right to request, but not the right to receive if they're not warranted. And there are legitimate concerns about drainage, sewer, water, public services, and whether impact fees are needed. Developers build and sell and move on. Nothing wrong with that. But Sausalito keeps the project permanently. And the small amount of time a structured environmental review takes is well worth it for something that will be here for 50 years or more. On another note, I saw some comments suggesting that Sausalito delayed the implementation of Measure K. SOS totally does not and opposes any delay. Those sites are 100% affordable. They are designed to human scale and should proceed without delay. They represent the type of affordable housing, a type of housing we would love to see here in Sausalito. I also want to reaffirm Save our Sausalito support of the Pelican Harbor people. I'm heartened to hear that some discussion has been had about the possibility of the city picking up the mantle to on a legal matter for this. I just encourage that totally and that these are valuable residents of ours who need help now and I hope we can provide it to them. |
| 00:35:39.95 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. And if you can give the petition to the city acting city manager, that'd be great. Doug Litwin is the next speaker, followed by Fred Moore. |
| 00:36:07.42 | Doug Litwin | Greetings. My name is Doug Litwin. I'm a 11 year resident at Pelican Harbor. And there's three things I want to copy cover in my two minutes. Number one, I want to thank the mayor and the city council for working on this and trying to do what's right here and help us out in our time of crisis, because we know you have a very full agenda. including some planned things and some unplanned things, and your work is appreciated. Number two, concerned about a particular safety issue on the dock now. Like any other wooden dock, boards are always wearing out and need to be replaced. We used to have a guy that did it all the time. He was always replacing boards. Well, he's not doing that anymore. The order for wood has been canceled. And just in the last month or two, there's been a noticeable decline in the quality of the boards. And I'm worried about the fire department in particular, because they come running down the dock to the fire boat, which is right in front of my boat. sometimes with a lot of equipment, gurneys, et cetera, and I'm worried about the public safety that represents. And I don't know what the deal is between the fire department and the city or Pelican Harbor about the safety issue, but I think it's worth of investigating. Number three, there's a 25-page lease between Pelican Harbor, Pelican Associates, LP, and regarding lease, the 25 page lease. I've gone through it in particular on page three. There's a whole section about slip rentals that they can charge that's immediately following a section about how much rent that the leaseholder will pay every month. And the section on slipped rentals is extremely dense. I'm not a lawyer. I cannot decipher it, but it looks to me like there's some things in there which limit strictly the amount of increases that can happen, not the 80% increase I'm facing right now. Thank you. |
| 00:38:13.33 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Fred Moore followed by, I may have trouble with this name, was. Hubertine. Wow. Mr. Moore. Thank you. |
| 00:38:28.87 | Fred Moore | Good evening. As a resident homeowner, I'm frustrated to see how 1022 has stifled the improvement and investment in the marineship. For 40 years, it has essentially frozen this unbelievable resource for the city. With brick and mortar on the horizon, we are about to see how 1022's provisions removed planning options from the city. Because 1022 restricts the city from using typical planning... |
| 00:38:54.86 | Steven Woodside | Mr. Moore? |
| 00:38:56.48 | Fred Moore | I'm not talking about anything other than the potential one Harbor Drive, which you'll see later in my speech. |
| 00:39:03.90 | Alice Merrill | Okay? Thank you. |
| 00:39:07.66 | Steven Woodside | you |
| 00:39:07.68 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 00:39:07.80 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:39:07.85 | Alice Merrill | I'm not sure. |
| 00:39:07.85 | Fred Moore | I'm- |
| 00:39:07.90 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 00:39:08.46 | Fred Moore | May I continue? Because I'm not talking about that. |
| 00:39:11.07 | Steven Woodside | Okay, you made an introduction. Now, if you can speak to something that is not on the agenda. |
| 00:39:16.68 | Fred Moore | One Harbor Drive is not on the agenda. |
| 00:39:18.99 | Steven Woodside | Correct. |
| 00:39:19.61 | Fred Moore | So I may continue without any interruptions, hopefully. So with the brick and mortar on the horizon, we're about to see how 1022's provisions remove planning options for the city. Because 1022 restricts the city from using typical planning tools like development agreements, subdivision improvement agreements, public-private partnership agreements, variances, community benefit agreements, et cetera, the city was restricted from negotiating with the owners of One Harbor Drive prior to Measure J to discuss height limits, view corridors, public dedicationsications and other design related items. With my planning degree in 40 years of working on residential developments throughout California. I'm quite familiar with the give and take between the city and the developer city imposed exactions are expected. when you seek discretionary pools. Because of 1022 and the handcuff it puts on city, we will never know if by using the tools the city normally has at its disposal, whether the development plan for Harbor Drive could have been or would have been. It may have resembled Whiskey Springs, but we'll never know. As you know, AIME does not rezone for housing, but AIME amends 1022 in a manner where the city and our residents, through public input and debate, |
| 00:40:30.10 | Steven Woodside | Your time is up. Thank you. |
| 00:40:31.72 | Fred Moore | Thank you for letting other people speak over two minutes. |
| 00:40:40.04 | Steven Woodside | Mr. Huardine, you're followed by Michelle McCullough. |
| 00:40:51.43 | Alexander Woie | All right, like you said, my name's Woz. I've had a boat at Pelican Harbour for 10 years. Yes, good evening, Mayor, Council members. I'd first like to thank you for taking this matter seriously. I know the city is doing exactly what it should be doing, carefully reviewing the legal questions surrounding Pelican Harbour and understanding what authority it has. I'm not here to tell you what the law says. I'm here to explain why the answer matters. Because what is at stake is isn't just one marina, it's a protection of community assets and the real identity of Pelican Harbour is part of a Sausalito signature waterfront. It's where families teach their kids to sail, maintain lifelong friendships, and enjoy access to resource that has been part of the community for decades. It's also part of what makes Solskja special. Every day, residents and visitors will pass Pelican Harbor and experience a waterfront that feels authentic, welcoming, and alive. It's part of the landscape and character that draws people to Sosilua and makes this city unlike anywhere else on the bay. If the city's ability to review a change in control of public waterfront lease can be circumvented, it is found to be more limited than expected. then this is about much more than Pelican Harbor. It becomes a question of how every public waterfront asset is protected in the future. the president set here could extend far beyond this moment. The rent increases we've received have already priced many long-term tenants out of the place they've cherished for years. Regardless of the legal outcome, it demonstrates how quickly the character and accessibility of a community asset can change when control changes. I am not asking the council to prejudge the legal review. I am asking you to recognise that this moment It matters. If your review finds the city's existing agreements don't provide the oversight intended, then I hope We can vote. You will see this as an opportunity to strengthen those protections, not just for Pelican Harbour, but for every public asset that future generations will inherit. The Marines, boatyards, and working waterfront are not just businesses. They are part of SOSLA's identity and character. Once a character is lost, it will be impossible to get it back. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 00:43:15.03 | Steven Woodside | you Michelle McCalla followed by Carol Morales. |
| 00:43:20.96 | Michelle McCullough | Hi, good evening city council. Thank you for giving us the update about our city manager interim being Chris Apata. I'd still like to give my public comment. My name is Michelle McCalla. I've lived in Sausalito for 10 years on Tamales Street. I'm also on the Sausalito Parks and Recreation Commission and your new head of Sausalito Chamber of Commerce. Firstly, know that you are in my prayers. Our city is facing potential turmoil, so you need our support. not our criticisms. I pray for your health, both mental and physical, given your demanding jobs. However, I respectfully request that the City Council temporarily pause developer selection, negotiations, and other binding decisions regarding the proposed MLK park and corporation yard housing projects until the city's current leadership transition has been stabilized. While the housing element required the city to issue an RFP by March 26th, a milestone that has been met, it does not require the immediate selection of a developer or execution of development agreements. The city therefore has a discretion to proceed carefully and deliberately. These proposals involve publicly owned land, affordable housing, financing, long-term leases, environmental review, infrastructure, recreation facilities, and other issues that will have lasting impacts on the community. Such decisions warrant stable executive leadership, clear accountability, and a transparent review process. I ask the Council to temporarily defer major decisions, clarify who is overseeing the evaluation process, review the City's legal and procedural obligations during the current transition, and publish a revised timeline for remaining decisions in public participation. This request is not intended to delay affordable housing, but to ensure that decisions affecting public land are made thoughtfully, under stable leadership, and in the best interest of the community. Thank you for your consideration, and please note that once these proposals are public, as a member of the Parks and Recreation Commission, we would also like to be involved in this transparent process whenever appropriate. Thank you. |
| 00:45:11.68 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:45:11.91 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 00:45:11.98 | Steven Woodside | So... Carol Morales followed by Skip Cleggers. |
| 00:45:20.40 | Carol Morales | Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council Members. My name's Carol Morales, and I was compelled to come here tonight because I hate to see someone knocked down and beaten up when they're down. We don't make fun of people who have cancer. We don't shun people who have cancer. We don't fire people who have cancer. We don't fire people who have cancer. You don't blow up your whole life in one night and everybody jumped to conclusions especially what's in the press, and we all know what the press believes and says, and we all take it as face value. But I want everybody in this room to know that at one time we had a woman who was mayor who was a convicted felon who spent two years in the penitentiary, who was a bootlegger, which was illegal and who was a woman of ill repute in San Francisco during World War II. She became a council member for two terms and became mayor, I think for only one term. Flawed people can do great things and let's not forget that we are a colorful town. with colorful people. We aren't your boring little town, and I'm not going to mention where, but we are, Let's embrace that. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. |
| 00:46:43.44 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, Ms. Morales, Skip Wager. Followed by- I repeat, not going to sing. Okay, but before I just want to let Jacob words, you'll be the next following this man with the guitar. Who's not going to sing, I'm told? |
| 00:47:07.13 | Chris Langton | Okay, my name is Chris Langton. I'm a resident in Pelican Harbor, and I've been searching for a way to convey the urgency and the desperation and the grief over the imminent death of Pelican Harbor. And I remember the old ways are the good ways. And in older, more civilized times, when a member of the community was in danger of death, They used to ring. what was called the passing bell in the cathedral of the church or the tower. And it was a way to invite the community to share in the grief TO ASK FOR ANY LAST-MINUTE HELP. and to ask people to just remember and honor the person who was on his way out. And so, I'm not sure what we're doing. and imminent. danger of death, I would like to ring the passing bell. on my church bell here. for Pelican Harbor. And as I do so, I would like to do so in the context of the following words by John Donne. No man is an island entire of itself. Each is a piece of the continent, a part of the main, If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory worked. Each man's death diminishes me, for I am involved in mankind. Therefore, send not to know. for whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. So. you The passing bell. Nine strokes in three groups of three. |
| 00:48:56.20 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 00:49:20.58 | Jeff Luntrell | Thank you. |
| 00:49:40.95 | Chris Langton | So thus we mark the passing of Pelican Harbor. May we continue to cherish her and our memories and may all her children reach safe haven. |
| 00:49:50.89 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 00:49:58.68 | Steven Woodside | Chris Lankton followed by Babette McDougall. |
| 00:50:03.56 | Unknown | Good afternoon, City Council. I'm here to speak on behalf of Pelican Harbor. I just want to thank you for your efforts and hope that the city attorney can adhere to the matter with their full attention and review the lease. I understand there's probably change of control provisions as well as rent change provisions within that lease. I would also employ the city to work with the State Lands Commission, as it's likely this rate increase is a violation of California's public trust doctrine. I also want to make sure it was brought to your attention that already with 21 days into the operation of Pelican Harbor, with camera Xavi. There has been a boat that sunk. and the residents were forced for the past three to four weeks, to handle the situation. stopping over after work, going early in the morning to pump the boat out. Unfortunately, the boat sunk this past Sunday, spilling diesel into the bay, obviously an environmental issue. and an issue for the harbor. having no operator that is caring for it. There is a report filed with the Coast Guard, the police, the fire department, So your public resources are being used. on a dilapidated harbor. when it should be for the good of the community. The other issue that this situation brings to my attention is the foundation that creates this wonderful country, state, county, and city is that government has rule over its jurisdiction. Unfortunately, what we're seeing here today is a citizen skirting around and acting in poor fate. and eluding government control for their own personal monetary benefit. That, of course, does not sit well with me or any of the community members of Pelican Harbor, and I hope you see that this is a, in lack of better words, a slap in the face to your jurisdiction and government over this wonderful city. Please take action and help us. Thank you. |
| 00:52:03.64 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, and can you make sure that those reports that you referred to are referred to are assistance? |
| 00:52:09.99 | Unknown | Yes, I'll file the case number that we have with the Coast Guard. |
| 00:52:13.01 | Steven Woodside | Thank you very much. Bebek McDougal followed by I can't read the last name. Eva Crizon. |
| 00:52:26.54 | Babette McDougall | Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. |
| 00:52:26.75 | Steven Woodside | She's McDougal. |
| 00:52:29.41 | Babette McDougall | Well, it's a pleasure to be here in person this evening. I really thought that before this unfortunate special meeting that was public, except only the city council was invited to on Thursday, sure caught my attention. And that's why I filed my letter early. So it was unfortunate that we had one more thing that hit us after Pelican. But here's what I think we need to remember. We could go all day and all night about everything there is to fight about. But what matters is that one way or the other, our community, as we would like to know it, is under attack. directly or indirectly. And we need to focus on those picture issues, right? Because this is the placemaking thing. That's the reason why Supervisor Peters came here and put placemaking on our agenda in the record. So the limits of growth is really what's in front of us right now. Now I ask you to 1022 preclude. for example, the Autodesk original campus from being built? I mean, did it preclude, for example, I don't know any of those structures down there from being built. I don't know. All I do know is this. We have seen those independent statements, those reports about this AIM initiative, and it will ultimately be up to the voters to decide. But the independent assessments verify that the limits of growth are grossly exaggerated within the confines of what is capable if this initiative were to pass. because willy-nilly, if it gets passed, it's going to be implemented one way or the other. and always according to its maximum derivative, because that seems to be the way it rules. All right, so I just ask you. Can we please get along? And I'm glad to know that it's like closing the corral after the horse is out. But it's, yes, absolutely get the surdi attorney on this thing with Pelican. It should have happened before the holiday. Maybe we could have avoided some of the misery. Thank you very much. |
| 00:54:24.20 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, Ms. McDougall. Ava Croissant followed by Allison Deal. |
| 00:54:30.27 | Eva Crisanti | Thank you, Eva Crisanti. I am the writer and editor at MarinCountyConfidential.substack.com. And I wanted to offer some thanks to Mayor Woodside for his comments about the situation with the city manager. I've been running between courtrooms and courthouses for last week, but I did want to report back that I watched the abbreviated attempted arraignment today at Marin County Superior Court And I was struck by... how predatory the media appeared to be with their giant cameras trained on this very small woman who incredibly accomplished and looked nervous as a rabbit. So the the arraignment has been continued until tomorrow, I plan to be there to watch it and I will continue to follow what the media includes and doesn't include because as a former emergency room worker, I have seen many prominent people have much worse falls from grace. And I don't, I don't consider this worthy of constant TV coverage. That said, there are some issues that I do think deserve coverage in the media with regard to Sausalito. And I would like some answers about Vice Mayor Blaustein's ongoing participation with the Wexner Heritage Program. Council member Subisky just put his forehead in his hand. I'm sorry to bring this up, but it is important. And it is important for some of the same reasons that I believe Ms. Morales touched on in a more gentle manner, but Jeffrey Epstein was the director of the Wexner Heritage Program and it was Wexner who funded Epstein's crimes, his vast trafficking network, which wasn't limited to the women that you see on TV. involved thousands of girls from Mexico who will never be mentioned. So we do need some answers on her ongoing involvement in that. Thank you very much. |
| 00:56:34.07 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Allison Diehl. Thank you. |
| 00:56:38.81 | Allison Deal | Thank you. |
| 00:56:38.84 | Eva Crisanti | I don't know. |
| 00:56:38.89 | Steven Woodside | Hi. |
| 00:56:38.91 | Allison Deal | My name |
| 00:56:39.45 | Steven Woodside | Excuse me, followed by Emmett Yazell. |
| 00:56:42.76 | Allison Deal | Hi, my name is Allison Deal. I'm a long term resident of sauce Litter Yacht Harbor and Pelican Harbor. And I just wanted to say that, We in the harbor want to know if indeed Cameron is the new owner. We don't know. There's a lot of stories going around. and we'd like to know, in fact, if he is actually the owner. And from what I understand, the city council has the right to review the land lease, and if indeed he has been able to buy Pelican, that you can review the lease, and you can decide whether or not you're going to keep it or whether it can be revoked. So I would encourage you to go with your original finding of not letting him have the new land lease i also wanted to bring up the fact that he's already gone in and removed the handicap parking from our parking lot which is uh against the law so he's already starting to do things that he feels are in his power and we're concerned that he might just start doing things uh thinking he can, and for example, dredging and putting in the slips that he's talked about at the end of Johnson Street. And if you guys don't do something about it soon, we're going to have an even bigger problem than we have now. Thank you. |
| 00:58:08.70 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Emmett Yazell. |
| 00:58:14.14 | Steven Woodside | Followed by Sonia Hanson. |
| 00:58:18.62 | Emmett Yeazell | Thank you. My name is Emmett Yeazell. Uh, And I just want to say again, I appreciate council members what you're doing. I know it's not easy and you're going to get tried a little bit, but I still appreciate it. And thank you very much. We would all like to know What, why the position for city manager was not offered to the general public. and why it was handled as a pocket listing. See, This is these are facts. This is not after the fact. This is before and I think that will be public at some point. If you think it won't, I have one word for you. Lewinsky. Now, the real issue and why I'm here Thank you. and that is the gorilla in the phone booth. its aim, and I'm not talking about the initiative, I'm talking about your involvement. You have a duty to fully vet this proposal. Why isn't the city hosting meetings? Why isn't the city. have renting space. All comments. And to explain this, You have spent more time and effort. on the design. of the fairy Gangplank. a few years ago. And I believe, Joan, you chaired some of those meetings, one at ID Test Hall and other places. that was a structure I'm going to remind all of you. That was 400 to 600 square feet. And we had PowerPoint. presentations in this very chamber. We went to great lengths to explain it and to fully vet it. The AIM initiative covers Two hundred acres. And you are mute thus far. Thank you. |
| 01:00:24.66 | Steven Woodside | Sonya Hansen. Followed by Alice Merrill. |
| 01:00:41.71 | Sonya Hansen | Ah. Good evening, City Council. I am here tonight because, alas, Susan Shea cannot be here. But I know she would be here if she could. Thank you. So, I am here to express extreme dismay of the treatment endured by our new city manager. Elaine Forbes. Last week, Ms. Forbes' family filed a missing persons report stating that Ms. Forbes was experiencing a severe mental health crisis. The City Council's response was to call a special meeting on Thursday and immediately place her on leave until September. On Friday night, Ms. Forbes was evicted from a downtown bar without escort. This is an issue that also needs addressing, but not now. |
| 01:01:31.98 | Sonya Hansen | Early Saturday morning, Ms. Forbes started blowing the horn on a boat that she had boarded in the Saucyote. |
| 01:01:37.56 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 01:01:37.85 | Sonya Hansen | harbor. The police were called, and for reasons unknown, at least to me, the South Sweet Police Department had the Marin Sheriff's Department deal with the issue. The sheriff's department boarded the boat where Ms. Forbes was sitting in the wheelhouse. The deputy sheriff decided that Ms. Forbes was trying to steal the boat and arrested her for felony burglary. Both the Sausalito Police Department and the Marin Sheriff's Department received the missing persons report and knew, or should have known, that Ms. Forbes had been reported missing and was in severe mental distress. Apparently, they did not know that there is a formal procedure to be used in such a situation. It is called a 5150 and it exists for just these types of situations. It is appalling that Miss Forbes was subjected to arrest when she was known to be missing and in severe mental health crisis. Instead of a 5150 or she was hauled off to jail and immediately became the gossip news of the day. The story of her arrest is all over the news and social media. If she had been 5150, HIPAA would have protected her. HIPAA would have protected her from all of this horrifying coverage. Would any of us want to be treated as Ms. Forbes was or have a loved one treated in that way? I think not. This should have never occurred, and you, the city council, should make sure that it never occurs again. Please mandate training for our police to force staff on how to address a situation where a person is in a mental health crisis. Jail is not the answer. A 5150 is. I apologize to Ms. Forbes for the additional habit we had wreaked on our life. |
| 01:03:15.27 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:03:15.29 | Sonya Hansen | Amen. |
| 01:03:15.37 | Steven Woodside | Please, please, I'm giving people a chance to wrap up, and most people are able to wrap up very expeditiously. We're getting through this. |
| 01:03:20.79 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 01:03:28.67 | Steven Woodside | Even the Supreme Court lets people finish. |
| 01:03:33.66 | Alice Merrill | or everybody. |
| 01:03:33.98 | Steven Woodside | Assuming they don't go on and on and on, but Ms. Merrill will not because she's always functional. I'm too. |
| 01:03:38.54 | Alice Merrill | I'm very quick. Okay. So I have a note here from Cameron Razafi. I told him that I was leaving, my boat was leaving the harbor. And he texted me, very nice note, after all the awful things that he's done. And it says, I'd like to continue to accommodate you at Pelican and alleviate your concerns. If your termination decision is not final, I'd be happy to provide a discount and continue to accommodate you. And then I said, well, my boat is, I'm selling it and it's going somewhere else. And he says, well, thank you for your response. We'd be happy to try to accommodate your buyer if needed. I think he's struggling right now. personally. Then let's see. The next thing is, I agree with Emmett. I think we need no secrets. You know me, have community meetings, talk to the residents. I've been saying this for how long? And so I just really wonder if ever that will happen because we used to have, meetings where we would talk about things and people could raise their hands and say, And so I think we need to do that. And then my last thing is, I've been walking down along Bridgeway recently because I'm living down there now. And there are two signs down there that say, notice stairs and a path this is right along the water where there are stairs down. It's not always kept up. We know that. Stairs and paths, not city maintained. Users assume. All risks. Okay, here we are. We're a tourist town. We are so proud of that. We want these tourists, and yet we're telling them, sorry if you break your ankle, tough. And then, of course, right in front of the... the elephant, the sea lion, There's a bunch of holes there now and there's some, there's some pilings and there's some stuff that says we need to fix this, but it's not getting fixed. It won't be easy, but I really would love to not have to be my town have to tell people, that I have to assume risks if you're walking on the sidewalk. |
| 01:05:45.17 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Lauren DeRiemer. is the next speaker, and I have no other speaker cards on public communications. You are next. I'm sorry. I should have said that. But you are next. |
| 01:06:07.53 | Lauren DeRiemer | Good evening, council members. As you all are aware, there has been a change of ownership at Pelican Harbor. Does someone you decline to transfer a lease to? Even with the full staff report of red flags, concerns raised by long-term tenants like myself and a 4-0 vote majority against this, it somehow still happened. Earlier this month, while standing at Lake Union Dry Dock in Seattle, on the very pier where my vessel was built in 1930, I received notice that my birthing fees would more than double by mid-October. which I will not be able to pay, and may very likely mean crushing the wooden boat that belonged to my late boyfriend, Dana Hayden, for 25 years. If 150 to 250% increases are illegal on housing on land, why is it illegal on water parcels? Motor vessel Tautira has been a responsible Pelican Harbor tenant for 33 years between our collective ownership. We have a long history of paying additional fees as approved liveaboards throughout that time. which even predates Sarah Flynn's ownership. We talk all the time about affordable housing and Pelican is a great example. of housing, affordable housing we already had. It is supported by rental income from accountable long-term tenants, which this exorbitant increase will be displacing. is actively displacing. I was quite frankly reluctant to give this public comment tonight. Aside from my financial concerns, there are clearly many property management ones. In the last few weeks, we've already encountered Bridgeway Marine attendants using our facilities late at night and leaving them without toilet paper. So not only do we no longer have a designated harbormaster other than this new property owner, we now have cleanliness challenges due to our neighbors recently receiving bathroom key access. Um, Again, I'm quite frankly, worried about even speaking for fear of retaliation, but what good is local democracy if things like this are allowed to happen. Um, The property owner, I say one last thing if that's okay. The property owner reached out to me directly, so I will be speaking with him about these concerns, but in the meantime, I urge you to take a long look at the lease with Pelican Harbor Associates given everything presented to you on May 14th before we lose the most beautiful harbor our town has. Thank you. |
| 01:08:27.51 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. I have no more speaker cards. Is there anyone wanting to make comment online? |
| 01:08:34.58 | Deirdre Coyne | Seeing none online. Oh, somebody just came. Yeah. We have Wendy. |
| 01:08:40.85 | Steven Woodside | We do have an online speaker public communications. |
| 01:08:52.35 | Deirdre Coyne | Wendy, you can speak now. |
| 01:08:53.81 | Wendy Richards | Oh, yes. Hello. Thank you. Hi, it's Wendy Richards. And I would like to add my voice to the request for a CEQA review of the Harbor Drive project. I live on Woodward Avenue, and we are a major alternate route, particularly since the advent of Google Maps. I WANTED TO BE ABLE And Thank you. My street leads up to. Platt Avenue and on up to Montemar. That is an alternate route. already when the freeway is backed up. |
| 01:09:33.20 | Wendy Richards | I strongly urge you to take the steps that are needed to do the CEQA review and include the traffic impacts because the large number of Housing units will come with a large number of vehicles. And when traffic is bad, this is a very dangerous street. We have plenty of dogs, families. We have a brand new baby. We have plenty of young people. And it's a very dangerous route when it's crowded. Thank you very much. |
| 01:10:06.70 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Any other speakers online? |
| 01:10:09.16 | Deirdre Coyne | Next we have Dennis Webb. |
| 01:10:12.15 | Steven Woodside | Mr. Webb. |
| 01:10:20.96 | Steven Woodside | Mr. Reb, you may proceed. |
| 01:10:24.94 | Dennis Webb | Oh, thank you. Thank you, City Council. My name is Dennis Webb. I was a Sausalito resident for over 25 years. My office is in Sausalito at Liberty Ship Marina. I'm a general contractor. Approximately five years ago, I walked off a project. Thank you. |
| 01:10:40.38 | Steven Woodside | Could you speak up a bit? It's hard to hear you. |
| 01:10:42.42 | Dennis Webb | I walked off a project on 74 Central due to... basically a really bad architect and engineer and not they didn't want to follow the rules and regulations of Sausalito and uh I've done a bunch of projects on central. Well, currently, uh, A friend of mine called me up with a parking problem right directly across the street. And I noticed they took away one garage stall and they were supposed to put, you know, we actually partially built a carport. And the car stall was supposed to have a concrete curb towards the city guidelines and they never put it in. Um, And he's parking his cars. on the car part and in front of the parking garage. He's only supposed to have one space. So now it's literally he's taking up three because he's parking in front. Um, We're talking with Department of Public Works about this. But it's just none of the permit or half of the permits aren't finaled on the project. And parking is just a nightmare on 63 Central, 73 Central, right in that area. And I just want to put it on your radar, 74 central. Permits are not. uh... completed after many many years and Yeah, he's just being defiant. And we're going to probably need your help on this. It's in Department of Public Works hands right now, but just wanted to bring that to your attention. Thank you. |
| 01:12:17.83 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Anyone else online? |
| 01:12:21.95 | Deirdre Coyne | Next, we have Lorna Newlin. |
| 01:12:27.72 | Alice Merrill | Could you repeat that? |
| 01:12:32.14 | Deirdre Coyne | Can you repeat that? |
| 01:12:34.84 | Steven Woodside | Lorna, can you hear us? |
| 01:12:37.22 | Lorna Newland | Can you hear me? |
| 01:12:38.66 | Steven Woodside | We can now. Thank you. |
| 01:12:41.97 | Lorna Newland | Thank you. I can't see the... time clock, though. Crap. Anyway, first of all, Lorna Newland, 33 year resident, 24 year small business owner in Sausalito. Um, I saved for decades to be able to buy my first home, and then I spent another 30 years to pay it off. And I live in Whiskey Springs. My business currently for 20, the last 20 years has been at the MLK School. I walked across the street. I wanted to urge the city council to, to Do a, require the developer do a CEQA review. I feel that, and many of my friends feel, that both Measure J and Measure K were misleading. The scope in measure J where everybody thought, okay, 75% of the population voted for that. It was supposed to be a four-story building. And now I think it's up to eight stories. And things start changing. And it was not clear, really, what the impact was going to be. Measure K just talked about a commercial building. It was put in, uh, another flyer that it was a dilapidated building. It's owned by the city. It's dilapidated because the city has had 13 tenants there. I've been there a tenant for 20 years, some for 30. And where are we going to go when this changes? Now, I'm fully for senior housing. I'm fully for affordable housing. Unfortunately, what's happening at Harbor One will not be affordable to anybody. We're a very expensive county. When the state looks at the median income of one of the fourth most expensive county in the nation That, it doesn't make sense. It's also, you cannot go north on Bridgeway out of town, After 2.30, it's already gridlocked. What's going to happen with all the traffic there? And so to echo what Lori Flynn and other people have also said, All this housing is being basically shoved into the north end of town. where uh, Most of us, I moved from San Francisco Uh, to get away from skyscrapers. |
| 01:15:01.57 | Steven Woodside | I know you couldn't see the clock, but your time is up. Anyone else online? |
| 01:15:09.55 | Deirdre Coyne | But I believe we had one more in-person public comment from Skit. |
| 01:15:16.10 | Deirdre Coyne | walked out. I think he's right there. Thank you. |
| 01:15:19.41 | Steven Woodside | Someone who just turned in the last card. His name I can't read. |
| 01:15:21.52 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. |
| 01:15:21.97 | Steven Woodside | I can't read. Yeah. Skip Flieger, please. Somebody just call me. Hi. |
| 01:15:26.38 | Steven Woodside | Skip, you already spoke, didn't you? |
| 01:15:29.57 | Alice Merrill | No. |
| 01:15:30.29 | Steven Woodside | I called you earlier, I'm sorry. Go ahead. You're right, you didn't speak, but I had your card, and I think I called you. |
| 01:15:38.23 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 01:15:38.24 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:15:38.26 | Alice Merrill | Yeah. |
| 01:15:38.44 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:15:38.46 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 01:15:43.00 | Alice Merrill | Sorry, Skip. |
| 01:15:45.48 | Skip Flieger | Just don't call me Chip. |
| 01:15:47.34 | Alice Merrill | OK, I won't. |
| 01:15:50.80 | Skip Flieger | My name is Skip 118 Filbert, also Pelican Harbor. And I won't go over the apologies for the stuff that you're going through with Elaine. I think we all understand that. But I wanted to thank you. a fresh or having to deal with what's happening in Pelican Harbor. Um, I, um, started investigating Cameron Merzavi. with the state of California, and I discovered that his |
| 01:16:26.50 | Skip Flieger | His name does not come up. either |
| 01:16:34.10 | Skip Flieger | Through Flynn Holdings LLC or Pelican Harbor LP, Nowhere in there. And we've been checking every day, three of us. There's no record of him. Unless he's got some other name, but we believe that he's not listed. So we just, we don't understand that. And, um, I hope that the city of San Francisco has the ability to look into it. I've contacted Sarah Flynn, the previous owner, and she's, not responding. We don't know where she is. Um, And the rest of the things that I had to discuss have been covered before. So I'll let you go. Thank you. |
| 01:17:15.90 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:17:15.91 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 01:17:16.25 | Steven Woodside | We. |
| 01:17:17.79 | Deirdre Coyne | We have one more online. Sandbox maker. |
| 01:17:20.03 | Steven Woodside | BF. We have one more speaker online and that should conclude the public comment on matters not on the agenda. |
| 01:17:27.69 | Sandra Bushmaker | Sandra Bushmaker. Thank you. Good evening, Council. I don't want to repeat what's already been said, but I would really strongly request that this city council and our city attorney be very aggressive with this new Pelican Harbor Master. He is taking Sausalito for a ride. He is upsetting the lives and the livelihoods of so many people. And Sausalito needs to put a stop to it. acceptable behavior for our residents here in Sausalito. With regard to One Harbor Drive, There is no doubt this thing is way out of scale for Sausalito, and we need to do everything we can to bring it back into shape. And I recognize that these state laws give these I'll see you next time. concessions to the builders who put in affordable housing. However, I'm requesting that Sausalito Council and our legal legal counsel. Be as aggressive as you can with a little bit of uh, discretion that you do have left. And if that means ordering the CEQA, then let's do the CEQA because it's going to have huge impact. As one of the speakers said before, traffic on Bridgeway on the northern end is already Jammed up. Late in the afternoon. With that and the AIM Initiative building, I think we're just in for a tragic end to Sausalito on the north end. Please do your job. |
| 01:19:04.30 | Steven Woodside | No other speakers, is that correct? |
| 01:19:07.58 | Deirdre Coyne | No more speakers online. |
| 01:19:08.98 | Steven Woodside | OK, we can now move on to the consent calendar. We have several items on the consent calendar. And what this means is that they can normally all be approved with one voice, with one vote. We do allow, of course, for public comment at this time on matters on the consent calendar, but we ask that you keep them brief. And perhaps these are |
| 01:19:43.72 | Alice Merrill | Okay. |
| 01:19:49.61 | Alice Merrill | I do have... |
| 01:19:54.08 | Steven Woodside | Well, we did approve the agenda, and I didn't hear anyone at that time asking that matters be pulled. |
| 01:20:07.97 | Steven Woodside | Okay, so I'd like to proceed. I do have three speaker cards who apparently all wish to speak to the consent calendar item 3D. And then I do have Ava Krasov. It just says item three, so I'm not sure which particular item. Okay, so let's start with 3A. Ava? |
| 01:20:38.36 | Eva Crisanti | with respect to everybody's time i'll try to keep this as brief as possible um i'm addressing the resolution of the city council honoring and supporting make a different stay as someone who grew up in and around sausalito mill valley um i'd like to to uh respect you know the volunteer work that helps make sausalito beautiful i hope that um simultaneously that the people who who the good citizens who take the time to volunteer also think about their role, not just in terms of Sausalito, but on a more holistic level. I'm old enough to remember when there was an active anti-war movement. And right now, when we are enjoying fresh air, and good air and good prime air and our waters are clean. We are simultaneously funding a situation in West Asia where the environment is being utterly destroyed. And that is being done, unfortunately, with our bombs, which are paid for with our tax dollars. So I would just beg people, as they are making Sausalito more beautiful with their time, to pause to think about what our other responsibilities might be as volunteers. Thank you very much. |
| 01:21:50.37 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. And just to note, the resolution is 3B, supporting Make a Difference Day, which is scheduled to take place on September 12th. And there are a number of local organizations who will be participating at that time and still more to come. So the remaining cards I have are all focused on item 3D. the reports on AIM. |
| 01:22:21.23 | Steven Woodside | gotten one more. So we've got quite a few on item 3D. So if there are more, if you could hand your cards up and we'll try to... keep the discussion focused on that for the time being? |
| 01:22:38.80 | Steven Woodside | I see several coming forward, so I'll just begin with calling on the first one I have Virginia Irwin, followed by Sophia Collier. |
| 01:23:02.58 | Virginia Irwin | Good evening, Mayor, City Council, everybody here tonight. Basically, with the reports of the AIM initiative that we had collectively done here with the City Council and the independent |
| 01:23:02.65 | Deirdre Coyne | I love it. |
| 01:23:16.63 | Virginia Irwin | Body. I am still reading them, trying to understand them. But the way I feel about it is it should really be a special meeting with the executive report fully vetted from both sides. And all the stakeholders living and involved in the city of Sausalito should be present. And the responsible course, in my opinion, is to pause engage the entire community and to get it right, to really get it right. And that's all I have to say about that. |
| 01:23:52.71 | Steven Woodside | Thank you, Virginia. Sophia Collier. |
| 01:23:56.05 | Virginia Irwin | Thank you. |
| 01:23:56.07 | Sophia Collier | Yes, thank you. |
| 01:23:57.52 | Steven Woodside | just followed by Jan Johnson. |
| 01:24:01.39 | Sophia Collier | Yes, thank you to the City Council and those who produced the independent legal, economic, and staff reports in a very short period of time. I wanted to focus in my time on one particular one, the Goldfarb legal report, and it highlights numerous drafting errors and inconsistencies in aim. The most glaring, a simple, plain reading of the initiative's language makes every use and structure in Sausalito legally nonconforming. In practice, that means people who would not be able to get would not be able to get ordinary permits to expand or renovate their home. And if a use was vacated for six months, they could never be reinstated. So this is not, this is right in the report. This is not something that people are making up or talking. That is right in the report from the Goldfarb law firm. AIM sponsors may say this could be fixed after the fact, but how easy is that fix and how long will it take? AIM is self-executing. It becomes law automatically on passage. So on AIM day one, does the planning department grind to a halt as every project becomes nonconforming and has to be re-evaluated on different terms? Do we issue stop work orders for projects already underway? These are real issues. Personally, I'm not comfortable with having my own home arbitrarily reclassified as nonconforming for any period of time. What if there were fire, an earthquake? And this one mistake is among many documented in the report. It shows the risk of a citizen's initiative attempting to rewrite 266 pages of Sausalito's code without the professional support, public comment, and vetting we would normally see, such as we saw with measures J and K last year. And there's another consequence. As a citizen's initiative, AIM is exempt from CEQA entirely. No environmental analysis, no assessment of its impacts, along with the housing capacity already approved as Measure J, and no traffic study. Nothing requires one, and no one has done one. We should not proceed with something this risky and flawed. |
| 01:26:08.39 | Steven Woodside | Jan Johnson followed by Adrian Britton. |
| 01:26:12.19 | Jan Johnson | Good evening. To say that aim is contentious is an understatement. I signed the petition under the influence of a kind, well-meaning friend who is very pro, I now regret signing it. Hopefully, one half of my friends won't speak with me because I signed the petition. The other half are starting to be mad at me because I regret signing it. |
| 01:26:40.31 | Jan Johnson | The FAR of three is excessively high. I think AIM allows a three of five member vote of the city council to change zoning so they can rezone to housing. We all know that Mr. Berg wants to put housing on his property. An FAR of three will allow development such as Wine Harbor Drive to proliferate. Please establish multiple public information meetings starting in September, preferably every week, because we need to know the details that are hidden in this 266 pages. I have not yet been able to get myself to kill my printer by printing out 266 pages, um... So please help us and please have public information meetings, lots of them before November. Fourth and before the mail-in vote comes out. Thank you. |
| 01:27:42.28 | Steven Woodside | Jan, I'm still your friend. Adrian Britton. followed by Fred Moore. |
| 01:27:49.30 | Adrian Brinton | Hi, Adrian Brinton, a 13-year South Carolina resident. I'm Jan. I still have some extra printed copies. I'm actually happy to share one of those with you if you'd like and save your printer. Okay, I'll get one to you. |
| 01:27:59.83 | Samantha Schubert | I'll get one to you. |
| 01:28:01.20 | Adrian Brinton | So we were excited when we read the reports. I think that the report showed a number of really positive things for us. Thank you for commissioning them. We see that our working waterfront is generally, you know, that on our working waterfront, it's going to be able to enhance our arts, maritime, and industrial, light industrial tenants. The staff said many of the same things we've been seeing for years, that the makers and maritime businesses, they've struggled under the current rules to stay financially viable. They can't even have a modest complementary use today, and we're going to fix that. On our local economy, they concluded that it'll generate net positive general fund benefits, and more property tax, more sales tax, more business license tax. Service costs stay modest because these info uses use our existing infrastructure. Of course, we need new infrastructure and according to Save versus Osolito, they estimated we get about $8 million potentially in their telling. Don't agree with all the numbers. That's enough to float about $100 million bond, which actually pays for a really significant amount of our infrastructure, which again is great news. You talked about the numbers and the available space. We've heard these numbers being thrown around that are quite extreme and really meant to drive fear. They found that potentially over time about 1.8 million available kind of expected development based on this initiative, which over time is a reasonable development goal. It's not 10 million square feet. That number was really just designed to drive fear and really kind of make you feel uneasy about this and feel like we're gonna have these towers like Harbor Gile, Harbor Drive, which actually, as Mr. Moore tried to point out, is really coming into existence because we don't have the flexibility to resolve. when we could have had six acres of townhouses Now we have three acres of towers. Inflixes are. |
| 01:29:57.70 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. Fred Moore followed by Dan Morgan. |
| 01:30:10.95 | Fred Moore | Good evening again. I assume everybody is armed with their AI analysis of the reports. Of course, my AI analysis is probably different from everybody else, but I'll give you a couple comments from it. The reports confirm the fundamental need for the initiative saucers existing friendship regulations are unusually restrictive possible specific and inflexible. Express concludes that the initiative could improve flexibility investment potential business attraction and long term financial capacity. That flexibility is essential if aging buildings are to be maintained improved adapted to change in economic conditions. and kept productive rather than allowed to deteriorate. The economic findings are particularly encouraging Notwithstanding that, I'm sure there's other AIM analysis that totally differ from that. However, I'm old school and thought it best to read the documents and evaluate the comments based on the provisions in AIM. Based on my land use experience, I have issues with a few statements and summaries in the report. I think they can be challenged and offer a different opinion. But like is always the case, if you have five lawyers, their opinions, you get five different opinions. However, I find quotes from the reports especially encouraging. Staff anticipates a general positive effect on the retention of existing Marinship Arts, Maritime, and Light Industrial Tenants. That's a great point. Staff has received consistent feedback over several years from Marinship Arts, Maritime, and Light Industrial Tenants that the inability to add modest, direct-to-public sales, or complementary commercial components has made it difficult to remain financially viable and amid a rising operating cost. Staff anticipates the measure, if approved, would have a general positive effect on the retention of these existing businesses and could support modest employment growth in the marinship as underutilized parcels are redeveloped. However, we should continue the debate. preferably without AI. So, We have a choice. We continue the 40-year status quo or adopt AIM. Again, I'll debate and talk to any person and give any insights into AIM and what it does and what it doesn't. |
| 01:32:21.88 | Steven Woodside | Dan Morgan, followed by |
| 01:32:23.98 | Dan Morgan | Andy Greer. |
| 01:32:25.00 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 01:32:25.41 | Dan Morgan | Good evening, members of city council. My name is Dan Morgan. I'm a property owner on gate five road and recently experiencing flooding issue i think i'm very much in support of the aim initiative as you can imagine i think it gives us the ability to have a funding mechanism to solve the infrastructure problems that are creating the floods. that are creating the crumbling sidewalks And as opposed to increased taxes, I think it's a very good way to go. Fred stole all my thunder on the summary, so I'll leave it at that and won't bore you further. Thank you. |
| 01:33:02.59 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Andy Greer followed by Lauren DeRiemer. |
| 01:33:15.92 | Andy Greer | Hello? I've spent the last several weeks reading the AIM initiative in the ordinance language. As I read the document, I notice consistent shift away from mandatory protections and towards discretionary language. Words matter and land use law. Every word is chosen for a reason. The words used throughout this initiative are often ambiguous and leave substantial room for interpretation. The initiative repeatedly uses words like compatible, appropriate, complimentary, and encourage. None of these terms are objectively defined within the initiative. For example, The initiative states that the development shall prioritize marine and marine uses while permitting recreation, education, food and dining, retail, and other uses. It does not say those maritime uses are exclusive, reserved, or protected. It uses the word prioritize. The initiative also states that it seeks to preserve the industrial, maritime, and creative arts character while enabling compatible economic activity. Again, the term compatible is not defined. Compatibility does not reserve space. It does not preserve affordability. It does not prevent displacement in an area where higher value permitted uses become economically viable. If clear legal constraints are not in place, such as limited to, shall be reserved for, or shall not permit competing uses, then eventually the market decides. As more non-industrial uses are introduced into the marine ship, land values rise, rents rise. as redevelopment becomes more attractive and the economic foundation that supports the maritime services become increasingly difficult to sustain we also cannot ignore the trend the tremendous pressure the state has placed on to accommodate for the housing. I recognize that AMED is not by itself approve or require housing. However, it does change the legal framework governing the marine ship. I could go on. Thank you. |
| 01:35:37.38 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Lauren DeRiemer, followed by Susan Frank. |
| 01:35:48.04 | Lauren DeRiemer | Thank you. In my perspective, What's happening in Pelican Harbor is a perfect example of people seeing AIM coming on the ballot and taking advantage of that. And that is what is incredibly concerning is that even now... with the restrictions we have in place that AIM supporters claim are very restrictive We're even seeing loopholes happen. And so what I'm focused on isn't so much what the overall objective is, but how the policy is written that's before us. What is crossed out? Those pages are arguably more important than what they're proposing. And remind you that just weeks ago, we almost didn't have Goldfarb. It was almost just going to be a city staff report, which two council members were pushing, which I think to myself, Right. What is there to hide? What is, like, what's going on here, right? That is what leads me to be distrustful of what's going on, and not inclined to vote for a measure that's going to make something a three vote majority where zoning can be changed more easily, where things like Pelican Harbor we could lose. We could even lose trail systems And in looking deeper at these two reports together, one of which is almost, the Goldberg is almost three times as long, focuses on legal planning and economic analysis. It's more... analytical about what could happen. which I think is a better way to look at this, is what is possible, what are the loopholes, It's more balanced too in discussing both benefits and risk. The gold bar raises some legal ambiguities. There's conflicts between between 1022 and the retaining municipal code language. There's ambiguities around the ARC has shipyard protections. There's uncertainty over how portions of the waterfront zone should be interpreted and inconsistencies between broad new uses and existing restrictions. So again, as somebody who really depends on the waterfront and grew up here, please don't loosen restrictions for more things to happen. We cannot even handle it from a governance standpoint 10 days after election. Thank you. |
| 01:37:57.90 | Steven Woodside | Susan Frank followed by Samantha Schubert. |
| 01:38:03.58 | Susan Frank | Hello, Mr. Mayor and Council Members. So many questions about this AIM initiative. And I was happy to read the overall conclusion of the independent report, and I want to read it. It's very important. The initiative could improve flexibility, reinvestment potential, business attraction, and long-term physical capacity. I think you already heard that from a speaker. At the same time, this is most important, it could reduce existing protections for maritime, industrial, and arts uses. Increased development capacity beyond current traffic capacity create infrastructure funding challenges, and introduced implementation ambiguities that may need to be resolved through subsequent city action. That's a lot of negatives, and it brings up even more questions. So what I would like to encourage is that we have a series of of public meetings to discuss this initiative. I think it's crucial that everyone come and talk about this, both sides together. Thank you. |
| 01:39:23.57 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Samantha Schubert followed by Tim Rogers. |
| 01:39:33.70 | Samantha Schubert | Hi, good evening, everyone. The AIM initiative would remove residents' voting rights on major land use decisions if adopted. Having your vote removed should concern every resident. AIM leaves the vote up to a majority of the city council, which changes over short periods of time. However, development lasts for generations. Decisions should continue to involve the people of saucieto directly using their voices and their votes if the aim rhetoric talks about maintaining properties current owners have always been able to maintain and build the owners who are not maintaining their share of saucieto should be recognized and we should be wondering why the properties that have been the poster children for the AIM rhetoric are the same properties that benefit Saucelitos houseboat community and water based economy. These are treasured local businesses to houseboat residents, boat owners, water based businesses, and of course, Saucelitos tourism, which some of it comes from county land. Indeed, owners cannot build anything they want, but they can if AIM passes. AIM increases the height limits to 47 feet, land far by 650%, and the water far by 900%. I urge all of us to maintain height limits, maintain far, and maintain your voice. Please vote no on AIM in November and require a sequel review. |
| 01:41:03.52 | Steven Woodside | Mr. Rogers followed by Ken Peterson. |
| 01:41:10.68 | Tim Rogers | Good evening, Mayor and Council. Thanks for having us. And thanks for all of your hard work. It's been a tough week, I know. Much appreciated. My name is Tim Rogers. I'm speaking on behalf of Sausalito Sustainable Waterfront. The SSA would like to express our strong support for the AIM initiative and in particular its commitment to a no retreat strategy for protecting Sausalito's waterfront and the marinship from the growing threat of sea level rise. Our organization is actively working with the Sea Level Rise Task Force and engineering professionals to help develop practical, science-based solutions that will protect our working waterfront, businesses, residents, and public access to the bay. We believe collaboration, not conflict, is the path forward. However, there's one reality that cannot be ignored. Protecting our shoreline will require substantial long-term investment. Sea walls, shoreline improvements, drainage infrastructure, and flood protection measures will cost tens of millions of dollars over time. Tens of millions of dollars over time. Without a stronger economic engine producing new tax revenue, those projects become increasingly difficult, if not impossible, to fund. That's why the SSWA believes aim is about much more than land use. It's about creating the economic foundation necessary to preserve the very waterfront that defines Sausalito. A thriving ship and waterfront generate the revenue that enables us to invest in resilient infrastructure protecting existing businesses, safeguard jobs, and preserve public access for future generations. Simply put, if we cannot fund resilience, we cannot achieve resilience. We encourage the city, the task force, the business community and our residents to continue working together toward a shared vision one that protects our shoreline while ensuring Sausalito remains economically vibrant and environmentally resilient. Thank you for your time and your commitment to the future of our waterfront. And I agree with so many of you. We all need to get together and talk. because there's so many good points and we have our pre-scripted things we write out and then we don't get a chance to talk. And let's get that going. |
| 01:43:21.29 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Ken Peterson. followed by Alice Marilyn. |
| 01:43:25.91 | Ken Peterson | Yes, my name's Ken Peterson. I'm with Clipper Yacht Company. I am absolutely in support of AIM. 1022 worked. In 20 years plus, the only thing we've developed on our property is two bathrooms to support our tenants. We have two buildings, one where Harbor Dive is, been with us for years. There's been multiple times that it has two to three feet of water. We fix that with dikes. Dikes aren't the way to do it. He... The property is subsided, not sea level rising, subsided to about a six foot level with their and Bay riggers. They're, they don't deserve to be down in that level. with There's no way to demolish the building, raise them up, and even cover the debt service with the current rents. Things have to change for us to move forward. Thank you. |
| 01:44:25.19 | Steven Woodside | Alice Merrill, I have no other cards in the chambers. |
| 01:44:33.58 | Steven Woodside | Alice? |
| 01:44:34.22 | Alice Merrill | Hello there. Well, that was an interesting thing that he just said. Um, This whole thing was so frustrating because I think that people who are the landowners could have been fixing up their property all this time. I certainly think that Joe Lemons, the old, wonderful, old Arkez. He doesn't do anything to fix up his property, so why should he get special treatment? to get to do something different because he could have been doing something useful. And the same with Carla Berg. and empty buildings. Certainly they could be housing some very interesting, innovative things going on. I think it would be great for everybody to talk to each other. I'd be happy to talk to the harbors who just spoke. because I, you know, I am from here too. And so those harbors have been in my life as well. And I think that they're all important. I'm sort of rambling, but I just want us to talk to each other And I don't think that aim had Any interest in talking to people in town. They threw that thing together, or put it together over how many years, I have no idea. but they got it signed for in a weekend. because they told people, here's what it is. It wasn't really what it was, but it looked good. Got a lot of young people out there. We need to talk to each other. What? Here we have something that's flawed And we have this, oh, it's so frustrating in this town that we don't talk to each other. Please put some meetings together. Thank you. |
| 01:46:20.48 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. I see no one else in the chambers wishing to speak. There are speakers online. |
| 01:46:26.44 | Deirdre Coyne | We have Sandra Bushmaker. |
| 01:46:30.85 | Sandra Bushmaker | Good evening. With all the comments on the AIM initiative, I would highly support town meetings on the pros and the cons and detailed discussion on these reports. Thank you very much for having approved these reports. I was upset to see them on the consent calendar because they are highly controversial. They are not non-controversial. So, but I appreciated getting them done. Uh, The implementation of this program, in addition to all the The drafting errors is going to be extremely taxing on the city. I want to know how much it's going to cost the city of Sausalito to implement this proposal if it passes. And lastly, I just want to say I am particularly irked that The Sausalito Thrive people and the AIM people are using the machine shop as part of their propaganda. As we know, that doesn't even belong to Sausalito. It... It is a federal facility. We have been told by the federal government it cannot be used for housing. It cannot be used for child care. And yet it is in all of the materials that I have seen, both online and otherwise, supporting the AIM initiative. It makes it sound like if AIM passes, we can fix the the machine shop. And we just don't have the authority to do that. So I would encourage the city to have several town halls where we discuss these reports that you've just authorized and received, and where we can discuss the pros and cons of this initiative prior to the election. Thank you. |
| 01:48:18.59 | Steven Woodside | Other online speakers? |
| 01:48:20.84 | Deirdre Coyne | Next we have Justine. |
| 01:48:24.60 | Steven Woodside | Justine. |
| 01:48:26.96 | Justine | Hi, City Council. Thank you so much for taking the time to talk about this today. I wanted to just voice my opinion as well to incorporate more of the small businesses inside the MarinShip in the AIM conversation. I don't have a traditional kind of business. I manufacture. And with manufacturing comes a lot of noise. And even though it seeks to protect some manufacturing businesses to the point of some other speakers, it doesn't protect manufacturing businesses. And so I think having meetings, bringing businesses like mine into the fold before the vote in November, so we can all understand exactly how to vote and what makes sense for our business in our community. I will say that this initiative feels like a slap in the face to a lot of us in the Marineship. And a lot of the people who exist there cannot vote, but I can. And so... I seek to be able to have more dialogue with my neighbors about my business and why it's so important. for it to be considered within the AIM initiative And lastly, I would like to just say that, you know, there are real issues in the marine ship, especially with flooding. And so I recognize that we have to create a pathway for that area to be fixed in a way that helps all of us thrive. And that comes with infrastructure. thinking about this more like a scalpel and less like taking a sledgehammer to the entire higher area is how I would like to approach that. And I do think that comes through conversation with each other. So thank you again for helping host hopefully some meetings in the future where we can come together and discuss this. Thank you, Council. |
| 01:50:23.03 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 01:50:24.14 | Deirdre Coyne | Next we have Erin Nathan. |
| 01:50:26.02 | Steven Woodside | Aaron Nathan. Mr. Nathan? |
| 01:50:29.38 | Erin Nathan | Good evening. Thank you city council for going over this very important issue. I definitely do want to say, I agree with everyone that more dialogue is a good thing. I think that it is a very complex issue that has a lot of nuance and I know a lot of the people involved in drafting the bill and having it go out to signature spent a lot of time getting comfortable with these terms. And now everyone is an expert in FAR and other, you know, uh, esoteric terms. I think getting this down so that the facts are clear will help everybody have a better understanding of what is actually trying to be done. And hopefully we can have a better outcome as a result of that conversation. I will say it's very impressive to see that we do have a citizen-led initiative, which means this was something that the people created. It may not be the people that agree with what is trying to be done, But that's kind of the beautiful, messy part of our democracy. So thank you, everyone, for taking part in that. |
| 01:51:35.78 | Deirdre Coyne | Next we have Sharna Brockett. |
| 01:51:38.26 | Steven Woodside | Sprocket. |
| 01:51:41.01 | Sharna Brockett | Hi. This is Sharna Brockett, and I'm one of the leaders of the AIM initiative and Sausalito Thrive. And, you know, I would totally welcome a town hall. I think we should do it. Let's let's plan some. I think it'd be great to have a more of a conversation around this and stop talking past each other. I'm very proud of the AIM initiative. We put a lot of work into it, a lot of thought into it. So I think having a conversation where we can go through that and just hear each other out would be great. Um, I also want to say that to respond to Miss Bushmaker that actually AIM does does rezone the machine shop. It actually right now is zoned public institution. And of course we know it's owned by the federal government, but right now it's zoned public institution. If somebody were to buy it, and I think at some point, hopefully soon the federal government will sell it, if somebody were to buy it, they would have to do a whole ballot initiative to actually rezone it to something that could be useful. So we actually rezone it in the initiative to industrial. So it could become like a maker space. It could be, there's a, you know, and so we have imagery of what it could be. So actually AIME does address that. And right now, just looking at it, it's people just see that as a representative of just decay and, um, It's time to start to make some changes, and this is one change that would hopefully get it closer to being a usable space in the near future. Um, And so thank you so much. I really appreciate the chance to talk. And I'm very proud of AIM. I'm proud of what came out in the reports. It says a lot of great things. And there's the majority of the businesses, I would say the Working Waterfront support this. The Sausalito Sustainable Working Waterfront Association supports this. So thank you. |
| 01:53:24.08 | Steven Woodside | Other speakers online? |
| 01:53:25.69 | Deirdre Coyne | Seeing none online. |
| 01:53:27.02 | Steven Woodside | Okay, and no more in the chambers. That concludes the um discussion on 3D are there any other comments on other consent items before we have a motion and a vote on the consent calendar. |
| 01:53:40.59 | Ian Sobieski | There I move to adopt the consent calendar. Second. |
| 01:53:43.30 | Steven Woodside | A motion and two seconds. And we can't just do this by voice vote, so we need a roll call. |
| 01:53:50.20 | Deirdre Coyne | Council member Cox. Yes. Council member Hoffman. Yes. Council member Sobieski. Yes. Vice mayor Blaustein. Yes. Mayor Woodside. |
| 01:53:55.50 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Yes. Thank you very much. And thanks to all of you for coming and sharing your thoughts with us now. Thank you. We certainly take to heart the idea that we should have more public discussion about this as we go forward. and we'll do our best. And a request has been made to take a short break and then come back no later than, let's try to say, 5 to 7, according to that clock. That's six minutes from now. Minutes after seven. Okay, I'm uncomfortable... doing this, but we're back in order. Um, And before we take up the next items, there are a couple of changes that may be suggested now to take a couple matters off and either continue them or not discuss them tonight. |
| 01:54:54.94 | Ian Sobieski | Mayor Mrakas, shall we move the business license tax matter to a future agenda item? |
| 01:55:00.07 | Steven Woodside | That's one motion. And is there a second? |
| 01:55:03.68 | Ian Sobieski | you |
| 01:55:03.69 | Melissa Blaustein | second. |
| 01:55:04.59 | Ian Sobieski | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:55:05.59 | Steven Woodside | OK. |
| 01:55:05.99 | Melissa Blaustein | I'll have to take public comment, though. |
| 01:55:07.37 | Steven Woodside | We do, yes. |
| 01:55:08.32 | Alice Merrill | you |
| 01:55:08.34 | Melissa Blaustein | I'd also like to suggest that we continue the sign ordinance item. |
| 01:55:11.76 | Steven Woodside | Okay, so- |
| 01:55:12.77 | Melissa Blaustein | significant |
| 01:55:13.95 | Steven Woodside | Okay, you hear what we're thinking of doing, which is to take the sign ordinance, continue that, also the business license tax, continue that, We will take public comment at the appropriate time on each one, but our intention may well be to simply not discuss them tonight, and I would encourage people to save their arguments until they come back up. So having said that, are there public comments on simply the idea of continuing these two items. |
| 01:55:45.01 | Joan Cox | And Mayor, may I... comment that if we do continue item 5C, it will not, that will necessarily not allow us to place it on the ballot in November. So that's the implication of our continuing that item. That's correct. Was something many people wrote in to request. Yes. Thank you for that clarification. |
| 01:56:13.47 | Steven Woodside | Okay, so we'll now... Thank you. not have the benefit of the fan to keep us cool. OK, OK. It's a little warm up here. So are there comments on the idea of continuing these two items? |
| 01:56:32.98 | Ian Sobieski | I don't think you need to do that. |
| 01:56:34.19 | Steven Woodside | Well, I'm told that we should. but we can. |
| 01:56:37.47 | Joan Cox | WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON EACH ITEM, EVEN IF WE |
| 01:56:40.51 | Steven Woodside | I'm suggesting that people save their comments until they come back if we approve the motions. |
| 01:56:40.52 | Joan Cox | like. |
| 01:56:46.61 | Steven Woodside | I think because we didn't do this at the outset of the meeting, Ian, we probably have to take public comment. I'm erring inside of... CAUTION HERE. And I see no one coming up in the dais to comment. Anyone online? |
| 01:57:00.67 | Deirdre Coyne | Sing, not online. |
| 01:57:01.67 | Steven Woodside | Okay, so we do have a motion, and I'm going to say to continue items 4A and 5C. Okay. We need a roll call. |
| 01:57:18.17 | Deirdre Coyne | Councilmember Cox. Yes. Councilmember Hoffman. Yes. Councilmember Sobieski. Yes. Vice Mayor Blaustein? Yes. Mayor Woodside. Thank you. |
| 01:57:26.24 | Steven Woodside | Yes. Okay, we now have our business items. And the first item is... to interview candidates for the Economic Development Advisory Committee and the Sustainability Commission. We have a number of applications. We have perhaps some people here to do a quick interview in the room and some online. So I'm going to leave it to our clerk to help us organize this by calling forward people by name. Our process involves reading carefully your application, so we are thoroughly Thank you. informed as to who you are, why you want to be, but we would encourage you to sort of make your case in just a couple of minutes as to why you want to serve on either of these commissions. So having said that, let's start with the economic |
| 01:58:22.75 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. |
| 01:58:22.77 | Steven Woodside | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 01:58:24.37 | Deirdre Coyne | So our interview is Yoshimori Tomei? |
| 01:58:24.81 | Steven Woodside | of the state. |
| 01:58:28.57 | Steven Woodside | Yoshi. So if you would come to the, and just briefly explain, we know you, Yoshi. Thank you for showing interest. And just tell us, Why you want to serve? Um, |
| 01:58:42.02 | Yoshi Tomei | Um, Oh boy. Maybe I might throw the towel watching tonight. In Sasarira, nobody has opinions. Yeah. In my business. Eat them sushi, give them sake, everybody happy. in south lero seven times plus people nobody has an opinion it's hard to be sitting in the diocese i don't have that kind of patience maybe i hope i'm not doing wrong things to sticking my head into this other advisory job so anyway uh I've been surviving what I do for 40 years. I enjoy being as a business owner previously as a manager three and a half years. I love what I do. I've been so appreciative about being in Sasriro. Something maybe I can return to Sasriro, being here 40 years. One thing I really love about Sasriro, we have such a tight, tight community. Yes, it is Suristan, and yet the people living here, they care about what they do, what they eat, what we do about it. So I like to be contributing. My wake hours, I spend time in most of the time. I sleep another time. But I like to continue what I do. |
| 02:00:02.43 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Very well. Are there questions? at this point from the Council. |
| 02:00:08.52 | Ian Sobieski | Where's the sake you promised to bring to the city council meeting tonight? |
| 02:00:13.22 | Yoshi Tomei | Maybe next meeting need it. I can survive for that. |
| 02:00:18.77 | Ian Sobieski | In all seriousness, then, do you have, as you know, EDAC has taken on a variety of different projects over the years that it was founded? Do you have any particular tasks that you would like to help direct the organization to work on? |
| 02:00:32.64 | Yoshi Tomei | Right. I do the, like, Caledonia Street is a commercial and residence area, where is really a picture of residents and business, how they work together, live together. That's really what it is. And particularly parking issue, we have agendas on the next agenda. Those things I like to do is how we can work together, other businesses and the residences. Employees are people who work here, part of the Sassariro, not just people who live here in Sassariro. We have to find out a way to people who work here or business people, how we can work together. Maybe I can find a way to do that. Parking is one of the major issues. I like to stick my hand in it and work with whomever, whatever needs to be done. Very well. |
| 02:01:23.47 | Steven Woodside | Other questions? |
| 02:01:26.32 | Joan Cox | As the mayor of Caledonia Street, do you believe that you can bring together the businesses and the residents to collaborate and accomplish a better outcome for all? |
| 02:01:39.18 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:01:39.19 | Yoshi Tomei | Thank you. |
| 02:01:39.23 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:01:39.99 | Yoshi Tomei | I hope I, |
| 02:01:40.91 | Steven Woodside | We can do it. Jill, do you have any questions? I see your hand. |
| 02:01:46.35 | Unknown | you |
| 02:01:46.40 | Jill Hoffman | Oh, yeah. No, but I think as the council liaison, I just want to eat out. I just want to thank Yoshi. I know he's a leader, not just in the business, not just on Caledonia Street, but in the business community in general. And thank him for throwing his hat in. And I appreciate it. I know he's busy. So thank you. Not to not to project how I'm going to vote, of course, but coming forward. |
| 02:02:06.33 | Carolyn Revell | Not to, not to project, |
| 02:02:12.56 | Steven Woodside | Okay. I don't need to ask any questions, Yoshi. Thank you so much for considering joining, and we'll make a decision tonight. Thank you. |
| 02:02:23.17 | Yoshi Tomei | Okay. Thank you. |
| 02:02:25.28 | Steven Woodside | next. |
| 02:02:25.95 | Deirdre Coyne | Next, we have Jordan Dodds. |
| 02:02:36.72 | Jordan Dodds | it's a very good thing. |
| 02:02:36.79 | Dennis Webb | evening. |
| 02:02:37.14 | Jordan Dodds | you I didn't know this was going to be an interview like this, so... I'm a little unprepared about myself. I've lived in Sausalito, or my wife and I have, for about 12 years now. When I first moved here, I joined the board of the Cruising Club, which was a pretty scary place back then. But I feel pretty proud of the work I did there. I've since opened a business here in Sausalito on Bridgeway. I have helped tremendously at the Sausalito Nursery School, where both my daughters went. they're both now going to Martin Luther King Jr. Academy, which I would love to help there too, but I know that's a different department. The EDAC, I, as a business owner and just kind of as an ideas guy has always been my background. I'm excited because I think Sausalito has a lot of potential. And I love the idea of growing the pie we have, because I feel like a lot of our neighboring towns have a bigger pie and they have the things like a strawberry has a rec center I don't even think it's a real town. So that kind of thing really motivates me to want to help us get there, and I think we can do that with innovation and job creation and just. economic development. Uh, so that's a little bit of me and I'll put it over to you guys. Thanks. Questions? Yes. |
| 02:03:57.47 | Melissa Blaustein | Hi Jordan. Could you share just a little bit more about your business as a convening space and how you have used your business as a way to kind of grow economic development in your own way? |
| 02:03:58.36 | Jordan Dodds | I will. |
| 02:04:10.43 | Jordan Dodds | Yeah, totally. |
| 02:04:11.39 | Melissa Blaustein | I'm a proud township member. Just full disclosure. |
| 02:04:14.12 | Jordan Dodds | Yeah, our goal with turn this up a little bit. Our goal with Township was when everyone started working from home. I didn't think that was the right term. I don't think people wanted to work from home. They just didn't want to be told to be in an office every day. So the goal was like, hey, we have all these interesting neighbors. How do we put them in a place they can meet? And if you sit at a certain restaurant too long, it's called camping for those of you who don't know that. So you can camp at our place. But to answer your question, Ms. Blaustein, What I've seen is just collaboration. And as far as getting people who really live on the same block, who never talk to each other, and then they're working together, they're starting ideas, that's kind of been the outcome of most of our neighborly things. I'd also just, one of the things I've loved about North Sal Salido is like Lisa, who owns Kitties. I don't know if any of you ever dined there. Yeah. Her and I kind of talk a lot about representation of businesses in North Sal Salido. And I kind of see a vision where right now tourists, I think they kind of stop at Fjord. Maybe they find Heath. But I see a world where, you know, there's a really long tourist trip that's not just one ferry in and downtown. I think they'll stay here and we would love to be part of that in North South Slater too. |
| 02:05:32.24 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:05:33.18 | Steven Woodside | Other questions? I see Jill has her hand up. Jill? |
| 02:05:38.28 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, same. Thank you for Jordan for putting your hand in this too. And also because of the unique, I think, situation you have where you have businesses, all kinds of business owners that you have working in down there at Township and in Township and through Township. Do you have any insider themes Um, about the business community and where we can accelerate. Just off the top of your head, full disclosure, I didn't pitch this question to him at all, but just from what you've seen, I think the six years you've been down there, is that how long you've been down, |
| 02:06:20.45 | Jordan Dodds | Uh, we just hit four. |
| 02:06:22.56 | Jill Hoffman | warm up. |
| 02:06:22.96 | Jordan Dodds | Well, that's a great question. So we don't have a ton of, if you can imagine, most Sausalito businesses are brick and mortar. So a lot of our entrepreneurs or things are building more online or, so I don't have a great answer to that question. I think my background in building software and just any kind of product development is really talk to the end user. So one of the things I would love to help and be part of the deck is just talking to those business owners, understanding what their problems are. So I don't have the solution right off, but I would say I would love to help and be part of the deck is just talking to those business owners, understanding what their problems are. Um, so I, I don't have the solution right off, but I would say I would lead with curiosity and try to figure out, um, what, what those issues are. |
| 02:06:56.78 | Samantha Schubert | Okay, thanks. |
| 02:07:01.05 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:07:02.45 | Steven Woodside | Okay, anyone else? Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Dodd. Thank you. Thank you all. |
| 02:07:06.37 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you, Mr. Dodd. |
| 02:07:09.64 | Steven Woodside | Now others for EDAC. |
| 02:07:12.53 | Deirdre Coyne | Next we have Alex Alioto. |
| 02:07:16.90 | Joan Cox | Mayor, may I know how many openings there are for EDAC and sustainability? It's not in the staff reports. |
| 02:07:23.06 | Deirdre Coyne | My apologies. We have three openings right now for EDAC. I will say, come February of next year, there will be about six more. And for sustainability, we have one alternate position open. |
| 02:07:35.44 | Steven Woodside | So one opening sustainability, three at present for EDAC. And there's a sense of urgency to a point on EDAC because of those who have just left |
| 02:07:48.15 | Alice Merrill | Okay. |
| 02:07:48.54 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. And I think you've raised the question, but I believe it's implied in the fact that we're interviewing candidates for these positions that we can make the appointments this evening. |
| 02:07:58.88 | Joan Cox | Mayor, the staff report does not say so, but the agenda item as listed on the agenda is different from what's on the staff report. The agenda item on the agenda says interview candidates and appoint members to EDAC and sustainability. So if the city attorney can... |
| 02:08:17.38 | Sergio Rudin | Yes. |
| 02:08:18.39 | Joan Cox | I think it gives us a little bit. |
| 02:08:18.42 | Sergio Rudin | I do believe you can make the appointment as part of this agenda item. Upon conclusion of interviews. |
| 02:08:24.99 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 02:08:25.71 | Sergio Rudin | to see. |
| 02:08:25.97 | Alice Merrill | Mr. Aliotto. |
| 02:08:27.55 | Alex Alioto | Mr. Mayor, how are you? Thank you so much, everyone. Sure. Jordan, I don't know that I didn't know what was going to be in this forum, so I hope I don't come off as unprepared. The I would say for me, I'm a relative newbie to this wonderful city about five years now. My wife and I moved here five years ago, but I come from San Francisco. She comes from Terra Linda. This has always been a place that we we always loved. And during COVID, it was a it was sort of our safe space. Right. We lived in the city. It was a place that we came to and we thought this is a very magical place. We want to live here. And so we moved here, and upon moving here, I met Jordan. and the folks at Township. and what we call sort of ground zero, I think, for business progressiveness in the city. For me, I think what's really important ultimately is a diversification of business, right? I think that for us, we have to avoid the trap of just being focused on tourists. And I think there's so much that we can do. I'm a big proponent of the AIM initiative. I think it's really, to allow current merchants and future prospective merchants to be able to open up shop here easier than we do right now. I think making this a destination not just for people from Denmark, but San Francisco and Mill Valley and Sausalito, which ostensibly would be very, very localized, I think would be, I think there's a ton of potential. And I think that to me is the thing that makes me so passionate about this position. |
| 02:10:14.24 | Ian Sobieski | Questions? Alex Aliotto, are you related to the Aliotto's at all? Yes. |
| 02:10:16.30 | Alex Alioto | Thank you. |
| 02:10:20.28 | Alex Alioto | Yes, yes. We're like cockroaches. We're just everywhere. |
| 02:10:24.40 | Ian Sobieski | What's the relationship? |
| 02:10:25.71 | Alex Alioto | My grandfather was the mayor in 1968, so a really interesting time to be mayor. My sister was the supervisor of District 3. And then another side of the family is the restaurant side of the family. That's my second cousin. |
| 02:10:45.32 | Steven Woodside | Vice Mayor. Nope. |
| 02:10:48.02 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
| 02:10:48.05 | Steven Woodside | ahead. No. I don't see a hand from afar as Jill, you have no questions? |
| 02:10:56.56 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:10:56.57 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:10:56.59 | Joan Cox | Bye. |
| 02:10:56.76 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:10:56.78 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:10:57.00 | Steven Woodside | Okay. Ms. Cox? |
| 02:10:59.58 | Joan Cox | No, thank you. |
| 02:11:01.03 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:11:01.06 | Alice Merrill | Enough. Thank you very much. Thank you. Have a good night. Okay. |
| 02:11:08.03 | Deirdre Coyne | Our next two interviews will both be joining through Zoom. Okay. So first we have Nan Farley, who I just promoted to panelist, so she should be able to talk. |
| 02:11:11.76 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 02:11:18.55 | Steven Woodside | Nan. |
| 02:11:20.39 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. |
| 02:11:20.40 | Nan Farley | Yes, hi, can you hear me all right? |
| 02:11:22.48 | Steven Woodside | Yes. So you heard this sort of description of what this particular process is all about. And we'd like you to tell us with some particularity why you're interested in this position. |
| 02:11:23.42 | Nan Farley | Oh, great. |
| 02:11:29.87 | Samantha Schubert | and, |
| 02:11:29.92 | Nan Farley | and, |
| 02:11:29.99 | Alice Merrill | And... |
| 02:11:30.01 | Nan Farley | Yes. |
| 02:11:38.56 | Nan Farley | Yeah, would be glad to. I know it's been a long evening already. So thank you for your time and attention to conduct these interviews at an important time for EDAC. I'm Nan Farley, and I'm approaching three years as a Sausalito resident and 13 in the Bay. And since my interview for the sustainability commission last fall, I've continued to become more involved in the community while completing my MBA. and sustainable solutions at Presidio Graduate School. And I also have just a few courses remaining actually to finish my MPA. So I'm excited to be here. I see this commission as a space where I could provide value from my professional experience and my graduate work and also my desire to volunteer at a local level. So, yeah, one pivotal experience that really inspired me to apply for this commission that happened recently was a graduate consulting project with the City of Antioch Sustainable Economic Development Department. The city came to us with the economic challenge of both reducing traffic congestion, which Antioch has a lot of, and improving local economic vitality. So over many months, we researched financing and redevelopment strategies, including the use of enhanced infrastructure financing districts, EIFDs, And we also looked at opportunities to leverage HUD funding and approaches to revitalize the commercial areas. So through this project, I came to understand that economic development really isn't just about attracting new businesses. It's really the systems thinking to create the places where people want to live and work and spend time. And I hear people talking about this at the EDAC meetings. So I see that's the mindset that they bring to it already. But yeah, in addition to my academic and hands-on experience with economic development, I bring a background in nonprofit leadership, strategic communications, and climate policy. I've worked for two Sausalito-based organizations, a landscape architecture firm and an environmental conservation nonprofit, which has given me an appreciation of the opportunities and challenges facing some local organizations and businesses that operate here. And I suppose last but not least, I'm a regular volunteer with multiple organizations. I'm the treasurer of 350 Bay Area. I do website and communications work for Sausalito Beautiful. And I founded a few grassroots groups in the Bay Area focused on civic engagement, housing, and some circular economy things. So overall, I believe this combination in general kind of gives me a perspective on how Sustainable economic development really can support a thriving local economy, but also enhance that community, community vitality and resilience as well. |
| 02:14:27.11 | Alice Merrill | Okay, are there questions? |
| 02:14:30.64 | Ian Sobieski | Yes. So a couple of questions. Obviously, are you interested still in sustainability commission? Because we're talking about that next. I know you're interviewing for EDAC, but I just want to know, are you not interested in that? You're interested just in EDAC? |
| 02:14:42.11 | Nan Farley | and we do. |
| 02:14:47.43 | Nan Farley | I am interested in both of the commissions. I actually hadn't done that project with the city of Antioch before so I kind of found this new passion for economic development and I took coursework on it and just learned a lot about it and I just think it's really interesting how holistic it is and I see there's definitely some overlap between the different, you know, endeavors and how sustainability plays into sustainable economic development. Um, so I could be interested in doing that, but, um, I did talk to some of the EDAC members and I really like the committee as a whole and just some of the stuff that they're working on is really interesting to me. |
| 02:15:22.61 | Ian Sobieski | Got it. And so, and that's what I was going to ask too. It sounded like maybe you had attended some meetings, but it sounds like you didn't attend the meetings you, Talk to people. |
| 02:15:29.29 | Nan Farley | I just watch the videos. Yeah, I catch up after. |
| 02:15:32.63 | Ian Sobieski | Okay, thank you so much. |
| 02:15:34.52 | Steven Woodside | Quickly, I think I heard you correctly, that you have some familiarity with enhanced infrastructure financing districts. |
| 02:15:42.83 | Nan Farley | Yes, I have a whole report about them that I sent to one of the EDAC members and I'd be glad to share and look into how that could work with Sausalito and perhaps like our waterfront. We looked at revitalizing some of the brownfields in Antioch and how those could become new like innovation centers and how you could build business upon them. And that was actually some of the HUD funding that they might be able to access. So I know a lot about that and I'm happy to talk about it anytime. |
| 02:16:09.54 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Other questions? Jill, do you have a question? |
| 02:16:15.04 | Nan Farley | Nothing. |
| 02:16:16.37 | Steven Woodside | Okay. Thank you very much. |
| 02:16:16.48 | Nan Farley | Thank you. |
| 02:16:18.95 | Steven Woodside | Um, |
| 02:16:19.49 | Nan Farley | Oh, I do have one last comment. Last time, Mr. Woodside, you asked me, what would David Ottenborough say about Sausalito? And it dawned on me that he would say, These are the happiest harbor seals I've ever seen. |
| 02:16:32.18 | Steven Woodside | Wow. |
| 02:16:32.67 | Nan Farley | Thank you. |
| 02:16:32.78 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. You have a memory better than mine, but thank you for answering that question. |
| 02:16:38.48 | Nan Farley | Yeah. |
| 02:16:39.16 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. |
| 02:16:39.66 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Okay. |
| 02:16:43.07 | Vicki Nichols | Okay. |
| 02:16:44.40 | Deirdre Coyne | Our next interview is Meili Zhao. |
| 02:16:47.66 | Steven Woodside | We can't really hear you very well. |
| 02:16:50.12 | Vicki Nichols | Yeah. |
| 02:16:50.70 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:16:53.58 | Deirdre Coyne | just promoted her to panelists. |
| 02:16:55.49 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Deirdre, we're having a hard time hearing you. So just FYI, if you speak into the mic, maybe. Yeah, leave it open. Just speak into the mic. |
| 02:17:06.80 | Steven Woodside | Leave the window open and shout. |
| 02:17:11.33 | Deirdre Coyne | Mele, you're a panelist. |
| 02:17:20.01 | Steven Woodside | I'm not. |
| 02:17:20.36 | Deirdre Coyne | You need to unmute yourself, Meili. |
| 02:17:26.89 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. |
| 02:17:26.93 | Meili Zhao | Okay, can you hear me now? Yes. |
| 02:17:28.80 | Steven Woodside | Yeah, we can hear you. |
| 02:17:29.22 | Meili Zhao | Okay, good. Yeah, wonderful. I want to say thanks to the Sausalito City Council about everything you guys done in the downtown South Lido, the the what it called, you know, you found my gallery, the fire plaza. Yes, it is beautiful. It is a lot of work. It's very hard work. I've been with the Sausalito Chamber for eight years. I know before how they look like, and I have a lot of visitors from all over the world every day, everybody tell me how beautiful Sausalito it is. So I'm so lucky. I'm in this city, I have a small business and I represent 35. local artists and a few international artists. So we're so thankful for wearing good hand. Also we're like a face of Sausalito Basically we have so many visitors every day. And the... We just try to do our best to providing whatever people need. Lot of people come to my gallery, ask directions, information, where to go, where to eat. So, um, I'm willing to do all of those. Also, I'm with a, I'm volunteer with a, New Valley Chamber and the I'm... with them. San Rafael Public Art Review Board. I've been volunteer there for this my second term for four years. So I'm like a very involved with the community. Also, I'm very interested in economic development here. be as a female a small business owner, I would like to work with the community and do my best to contribution my time and my knowledge there. Um, I didn't have so much things in writing there, so I can't. I can explain a little bit myself. a doctor for 30 years. I worked for three countries. I worked in China in hospital, and I worked in Turkey in American hospital, and I worked here, California, Bay Area. So I used to do art when I was doctor. After I've been down with my doctor live, So I just had my art gallery in South Leto the city I trust so much, the city I love so much. |
| 02:20:37.38 | Steven Woodside | All right, questions? |
| 02:20:40.33 | Ian Sobieski | Yes, Dr. Zhao, what would be your primary focus on EDAC? What do you want to work on when you're on the committee? |
| 02:20:47.22 | Meili Zhao | I would like to use my knowledge to work with the community and develop a lot of small business, with, you know, work together with the community. And also I have a lot of ideas or connections with the different bigger company with a different country. So anyway, I'm, I'm more interested now for us, as a female small business with the art gallery. So I would like to... putting art and the economy together because we're like art town. Everybody come to Sausalito, they say there's a lot of art gallery here. I've been telling people because a lot of Thailand artists here were art town. So we can use those Our. as a tool to help our economy develop to the community because, you know, the economy, where a lot of business closing, a lot of building like vacant for lease, their business leaving stuff like that. to let a good advertisement for our town. Also, I'm... happy, very charged. Each of you, I know each of you work so hard. You guys like such... such amazing leaders. Uh, I think I would like to do my best to prevent whatever the information you guys need. |
| 02:22:38.32 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Other questions? |
| 02:22:41.71 | Meili Zhao | I have a question. |
| 02:22:42.62 | Steven Woodside | Very well, thank you. I'm sorry, Joe. I didn't see your hand. |
| 02:22:44.62 | Jill Hoffman | I'm sorry, Joe. |
| 02:22:46.07 | Babette McDougall | Thank you. |
| 02:22:47.17 | Jill Hoffman | Sorry, that's okay. Dr. Lee, I think I said, I think I just heard you say that you represent 35 artists and is that those are 35 artists who show through your gallery? |
| 02:23:00.46 | Meili Zhao | Yes, I represent 35 artists, 33 local and two international, one from Izmir, Turkey, one from Tokyo, Japan. Thank you. |
| 02:23:12.97 | Jill Hoffman | you |
| 02:23:13.56 | Meili Zhao | And so, |
| 02:23:13.96 | Jill Hoffman | So, and do you think that in doing that you would be able to represent the concerns and some of the challenges that the artists have in the community through EDAC? |
| 02:23:24.93 | Meili Zhao | Yes. Okay. |
| 02:23:27.28 | Jill Hoffman | All right, thank you. |
| 02:23:28.02 | Meili Zhao | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:23:29.99 | Steven Woodside | Okay, any other questions? Seeing none, thank you very much. We have, I think, one more applicant for EDAC. |
| 02:23:37.77 | Deirdre Coyne | No, that's it for you, Doc. |
| 02:23:39.02 | Steven Woodside | That's it. |
| 02:23:39.48 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. Okay. |
| 02:23:42.38 | Deirdre Coyne | We have one university. |
| 02:23:43.44 | Alice Merrill | Oh, I see. Okay. |
| 02:23:46.38 | Deirdre Coyne | For Sustainability Commission, we have Alexandria Poissette. |
| 02:23:50.14 | Steven Woodside | Oh, right. Welcome. |
| 02:23:56.54 | Alexandria Poissette | I appreciate you guys taking the time. I know it's been a long day, but I'm Alex Alexandria. I recently graduated from UCSD and cognitive science with a specialization in neuroscience, alongside other studies of urban planning and bioethics. Since graduating, I've just been kind of exploring a career in public service and kind of |
| 02:23:57.11 | Deirdre Coyne | guys. |
| 02:23:59.81 | Samantha Schubert | Yeah. |
| 02:24:18.07 | Alexandria Poissette | trying to find different ways of how to get involved with local governments, which kind of actually brought me here today. I was talking with people from the SF planning department and then Marin's sustainability and climate division, which they suggested I look into the sustainability commission here in Sausalito. And so I decided to put an application in, but from there, I've kind of just been joining in and trying to find where I can fit with Sausalito Beautiful and the Green Thumbs, to which we've been talking about being able to move forward and become a park steward with the Ferry Plaza and the Accompany Fountain. So yeah, that's just kind of a little bit about me. I'm really excited and I appreciate the time. |
| 02:25:03.51 | Steven Woodside | Okay, questions? |
| 02:25:06.16 | Alexandria Poissette | Thank you. |
| 02:25:06.20 | Carol Morales | it. |
| 02:25:06.40 | Alexandria Poissette | Thank you. |
| 02:25:06.45 | Carol Morales | Thank you. |
| 02:25:06.47 | Alexandria Poissette | Thank you. |
| 02:25:06.86 | Steven Woodside | Okay, Ms. Cox. |
| 02:25:08.58 | Joan Cox | Ooh. Have you watched any of our sustainability commission meetings and are you aware of some of the amazing things that they're working on. I'm a former liaison as it's our vice mayor. And so we're We've been proud to be their liaison because they're really forward thinking. |
| 02:25:26.70 | Alexandria Poissette | Oh, 100%. I was actually watching a few of the interviews before coming here or some of the meetings before coming here. They were talking about the EV installation and the Water Resilience Act and looking into finding out how to make that all function a little bit more smoothly around here. So I'm definitely really interested. What would you like us to undertake in this? |
| 02:25:48.05 | Joan Cox | that arena. |
| 02:25:49.03 | Alexandria Poissette | Right. Yeah, I think that's a great question. There's a few that I think were already talked about earlier today, which was the walking path near the little section by the seal that has a few cracks. I'd like to tackle that and see how that can get handled. Um, along with that machine shop over. near Liberty way, I think that could also be a great advantageous opportunity for Sausalito as a whole. Thank you. |
| 02:26:15.98 | Joan Cox | Thank you so much. |
| 02:26:16.65 | Alexandria Poissette | Yeah, thank you. |
| 02:26:17.56 | Steven Woodside | Other questions? Okay. |
| 02:26:22.30 | Alexandria Poissette | Awesome. Thank you guys. |
| 02:26:23.52 | Steven Woodside | Jill, I don't see a hand. Okay. Thank you. |
| 02:26:26.45 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:26:26.47 | Steven Woodside | I do. |
| 02:26:26.98 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:26:27.08 | Steven Woodside | SHOWING THEM TO |
| 02:26:27.16 | Ian Sobieski | I'm not sure. |
| 02:26:27.25 | Steven Woodside | Okay, Ian has a question. |
| 02:26:27.43 | Ian Sobieski | Okay. I mean, your academic background is so great. I studied, I love neuroscience and studied in college, but can you elaborate a little bit on why sustainability? Why is that the main issue? |
| 02:26:39.16 | Alexandria Poissette | Yeah. |
| 02:26:39.58 | Ian Sobieski | We have many commissions. Why'd you pick this one? Yeah. Your background. How's your background? We're late, director. |
| 02:26:41.22 | Alexandria Poissette | Yeah. If you have a question. I did a majority of my work prior to being here, um, with people that had autism and working with the behavioral technicians behind that system and looking at their databases and stuff like that. which eventually got me more interested in looking into public work and seeing where I could fit. I did some beach initiatives and a monarch installation habitat restoration project over in Malibu, which just furthered that. And so, kind of moving forward, I figured when I went to school, I thought it would be a great opportunity to not just learn about the brain, but also learn about a way to connect an everyday sort of living situation, which is why I Did a minor in bioethics to combine that and just sort of find a way to make physiologically and moral implementations to people's life on an everyday basis. |
| 02:27:39.52 | Alexandria Poissette | Thank you. |
| 02:27:39.54 | Michelle McCullough | Thank you. |
| 02:27:41.01 | Steven Woodside | for making comments up here. That are very, very complimentary. Yes. Um, So that concludes the interviews for tonight. Now, just to be clear, we have on EDAC, we have three vacancies that need to be filled. And you say that we are going to have how many more going forward? |
| 02:28:03.39 | Deirdre Coyne | In February, we'll have about six more. |
| 02:28:07.49 | Steven Woodside | So here's a question before we take any votes. Is it possible to make or telegraph the making of any appointments that would take effect in February? I'm just... |
| 02:28:22.83 | Ian Sobieski | You make a provisional appointment that would take effect in February. Is that what you mean? |
| 02:28:26.98 | Steven Woodside | Well, that's the question, and I wonder if there are alternates |
| 02:28:30.50 | Melissa Blaustein | Or could we create more alternate? |
| 02:28:32.06 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:28:32.07 | Sergio Rudin | Yeah. |
| 02:28:32.34 | Steven Woodside | And... |
| 02:28:32.41 | Sergio Rudin | I think you can. You can make a appointment now for a term effective starting at the expiration of the next... Trump. So if a term expires in November, you could appoint somebody now to fill that vacancy that will occur in November. |
| 02:28:51.17 | Ian Sobieski | Okay, and then Sergio, the vice mayor actually asked the question, could we add alternates right now? |
| 02:28:55.87 | Sergio Rudin | Thank you. I suppose you could, but if you're acting to fill a vacancy... |
| 02:29:02.67 | Ian Sobieski | Oh. I just know that EDAC, there are some members who will remain unnamed who don't necessarily always come. And so I think the alternates could engage. So if we're allowed to add alternates, that would be that alternate could then graduate to a full position if they actually meet the minimum criteria of actually showing up. |
| 02:29:21.97 | Sergio Rudin | and council member, I would I don't have the familiarity of the history of EDAC and whether there are specific alternate positions already designated when the Council created that board or commission. So I would I would be curious to look into that before you guys take an action to place somebody on that board. |
| 02:29:45.24 | Ian Sobieski | We could potentially put it on provisionally, and if it's not allowed because we'd have to take some other action, then it could take effect in February, presumably. Yeah. I'm looking at you. |
| 02:29:56.04 | Steven Woodside | looking at you. |
| 02:29:56.68 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:29:56.74 | Steven Woodside | to see if that's doable. I think we're being asked two things. One, can we make, let's say we wanted to appoint more than three tonight. The one, two or some number could be appointed effective in February. And then the question is, in the meantime, could they serve as alternates and that might be something that requires research. Sergio, is that my understanding? |
| 02:30:20.55 | Sergio Rudin | Yeah, that is correct. |
| 02:30:22.28 | Steven Woodside | But we could come back in September, let's say, and Add that task if you will. |
| 02:30:27.30 | Ian Sobieski | They only meet once a quarter, so I'm just trying to get it done. And also, as you see, we already kicked two items off our agenda. I think any time we can... reduce the amount of backlog, I get things we have to agendize and talk about the better. So I was proposing a self executing proposal where we 0.3 for sure. |
| 02:30:37.76 | Samantha Schubert | of things we have to have |
| 02:30:46.09 | Ian Sobieski | and we appoint, I don't know, one or two alternates. And if Sergio says they're allowed to serve, then great. And if not, they automatically become members in February when we have six positions empty and we'll have four. |
| 02:30:57.01 | Sergio Rudin | Thank you. And I will pose this question to our current city clerk. Does EDAC presently have alternate positions and when do those alternate designations expire? |
| 02:31:09.47 | Deirdre Coyne | I don't believe so, but I would have to double check. |
| 02:31:12.86 | Steven Woodside | Her answer is she doesn't believe though. |
| 02:31:13.40 | Deirdre Coyne | I don't know if you're answering. |
| 02:31:13.85 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:31:13.95 | Deirdre Coyne | She's... |
| 02:31:14.04 | Jill Hoffman | THE END OF |
| 02:31:14.12 | Deirdre Coyne | Yeah. |
| 02:31:14.17 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:31:14.19 | Deirdre Coyne | I WANT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT. |
| 02:31:14.92 | Joan Cox | She's our liaison. |
| 02:31:15.93 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. |
| 02:31:16.06 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:31:16.08 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Bye. I think sorry, I believe that we do have at least one alternate for EDAC and as Ian points out and I'll confirm, we only meet once a quarter, right? So we're going to meet in August and we'll meet in the next quarter, which is October, November, December, sometime in there. Do you ever |
| 02:31:40.97 | Steven Woodside | Do you ever do things in between the formal meetings? It might. No. |
| 02:31:45.46 | Jill Hoffman | Yes, we do. |
| 02:31:45.53 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:31:46.76 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:31:46.81 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:31:46.84 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 02:31:46.96 | Ian Sobieski | We passed a formal policy of our commissions not meeting more than once a quarter, which we may want to revisit one day. |
| 02:31:52.72 | Jill Hoffman | which is... |
| 02:31:52.75 | Joan Cox | You may want to revisit one. It was overwhelming staff. So to cut back on staff time, we reduced. May I answer? |
| 02:31:54.12 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah. |
| 02:31:54.18 | Jill Hoffman | It was overwhelming staff. May I answer that as a counselor? We do have subcommittees and we do have people who work on things in between. Means, but let me just say this. Anybody can come to a meeting. So if you're the alternate, if you're not the alternate, if you're interested in EDAC and you wanna serve on EDAC, I would even if you're not appointed tonight, I would suggest that you come to the meetings and that you volunteer to work on one of the sub taskers. Even if you're not appointed, then work on it and knowing that there's going to be five openings or four openings or the openings are in February. Just start working on it. And there's probably a high likelihood you're going to get appointed anyway. Please join the party. It's a good, it's an excellent committee, as you can tell with the quality of the people that are applying. I believe we have at least If we don't have an alternate, I would say Let's appoint three. And if you're not appointed, I invite you to come to our next meeting, which I believe is the first Monday in August. I'm looking at three o'clock, three to five. So come. |
| 02:33:08.01 | Sergio Rudin | I'm coming. Thank you. |
| 02:33:09.01 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:33:09.02 | Sergio Rudin | David Ensign, And I have another question for our city clerk and that is the Council's resolutions, which I have pulled up creating a deck designated as a body of. |
| 02:33:09.04 | Jill Hoffman | I have a |
| 02:33:19.96 | Sergio Rudin | between seven and 12 members. And so I'm wondering if there's anything would prohibit the council from appointing more than three, or how many vacancies are there and how many members are currently serving? Who does? |
| 02:33:33.86 | Deirdre Coyne | going to have to give me Two minutes to double check. |
| 02:33:36.48 | Steven Woodside | Okay. Well, in the meantime, why don't we take up sustainability? |
| 02:33:44.02 | Joan Cox | I move we appoint Alexandria Poissette to sustainability commission. |
| 02:33:49.54 | Steven Woodside | Okay, let's take a roll call on that. |
| 02:33:54.88 | Deirdre Coyne | Our city clerk. |
| 02:33:54.99 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:33:55.01 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:33:55.19 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 02:33:55.21 | Unknown | or, |
| 02:33:55.36 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:33:55.38 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:33:55.40 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:33:55.43 | Unknown | THE END OF |
| 02:33:55.57 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:33:55.99 | Deirdre Coyne | Yes. Councilmember Hoffman. Thank you. Yes. Councilmember Sobieski, Vice Mayor Blaustein. Yes. Mayor Woodside. |
| 02:34:03.31 | Steven Woodside | Yes, and with enthusiasm. Thank you for applying and congratulations. |
| 02:34:10.64 | Joan Cox | Congratulations and welcome aboard. |
| 02:34:12.83 | Unknown | Yes. |
| 02:34:13.69 | Steven Woodside | Now, we do have five extremely well-qualified applicants for EDAC. Thank you. |
| 02:34:20.66 | Unknown | Mm-hmm. |
| 02:34:21.03 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Right. So one possibility, just to throw it out there, is that if we made three appointments effective immediately and the remaining, let's say we wanted all five, |
| 02:34:34.53 | Alice Merrill | OK. |
| 02:34:36.91 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:34:36.93 | Alice Merrill | Okay. All right. |
| 02:34:38.55 | Adrian Brinton | Thank you. |
| 02:34:40.45 | Alice Merrill | Okay. |
| 02:34:49.26 | Alice Merrill | Sorry, I started writing it. |
| 02:34:50.46 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:34:50.58 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:34:50.60 | Steven Woodside | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:34:50.63 | Jill Hoffman | you can |
| 02:34:52.25 | Steven Woodside | for |
| 02:34:53.68 | Jill Hoffman | Is Ian leaving? Did Ian leave the room? |
| 02:34:54.44 | Vicki Nichols | Thank you. |
| 02:34:54.46 | Lorna Newland | It was the only. |
| 02:34:55.78 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 02:34:55.86 | Lorna Newland | Thank you. |
| 02:34:57.58 | Steven Woodside | Pardon? |
| 02:34:58.81 | Jill Hoffman | Did he leave? |
| 02:35:00.08 | Eva Crisanti | He had went to the restaurant. |
| 02:35:01.55 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:35:01.57 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:35:01.58 | Jill Hoffman | Right. |
| 02:35:01.58 | Joan Cox | I'm taking a short break. |
| 02:35:01.63 | Steven Woodside | taking a look. |
| 02:35:02.04 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:35:02.16 | Steven Woodside | All right. |
| 02:35:02.29 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 02:35:02.31 | Steven Woodside | Bye. |
| 02:35:02.34 | Unknown | break. |
| 02:35:02.66 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:35:02.80 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Karen Hollweg, It weren't looking up how many currently serve the clerks looking up some answers and request in response to a question from the mayor. |
| 02:35:14.29 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, got it. |
| 02:35:27.52 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. |
| 02:35:27.53 | Samantha Schubert | Yeah. |
| 02:35:28.02 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. |
| 02:35:28.16 | Samantha Schubert | Thank you. |
| 02:35:32.01 | Deirdre Coyne | Right now we have 11, but three I've termed out. |
| 02:35:37.07 | Steven Woodside | So we could appoint four tonight. Okay. |
| 02:35:41.83 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. |
| 02:35:41.84 | Joan Cox | That between seven and... |
| 02:35:44.00 | Steven Woodside | Well, yeah, apparently we have 11 with three leaving. Is that correct? So we could appoint four tonight to fill the 12. |
| 02:35:53.57 | Deirdre Coyne | Well, yes. |
| 02:35:54.43 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:35:55.33 | Steven Woodside | And then we could appoint one effect if we wanted to appoint all five. |
| 02:36:00.17 | Joan Cox | to become effective in February. |
| 02:36:02.75 | Steven Woodside | Right. |
| 02:36:07.73 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:36:07.75 | Unknown | I think that would be great. Let's do it. |
| 02:36:07.87 | Fred Moore | I think that would be great. get done. |
| 02:36:32.30 | Steven Woodside | Keep it. |
| 02:36:33.28 | Steven Woodside | I don't know if you heard the answer is that we currently have 11 with three who are leaving so we could appoint four tonight. And then we could appoint if we wished one person effective in February but to serve if possible as an alternate in the meantime. That's point four. I propose we would. |
| 02:36:52.82 | Ian Sobieski | Bye. |
| 02:36:52.97 | Joan Cox | THE END OF |
| 02:36:53.01 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:36:53.04 | Joan Cox | I don't. |
| 02:36:53.45 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:36:53.67 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:36:53.68 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 02:36:53.70 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
| 02:36:53.97 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. |
| 02:36:54.04 | Joan Cox | I'm very sorry. Jill wants to say something. |
| 02:36:57.01 | Joan Cox | Joe. |
| 02:36:57.07 | Jill Hoffman | I would ask that we appoint Dr. Xu as the artist and then whatever configuration everybody else wants to do, but that we just appoint that she'd be our one of the four that we appoint tonight and then however else you guys want to. |
| 02:36:57.31 | Unknown | you |
| 02:36:57.36 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:37:15.92 | Steven Woodside | Okay, so I don't know if we take these individually or if we can somehow |
| 02:37:25.41 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 02:37:26.47 | Joan Cox | I'll just, I'll say my top two, others say their top two. My next, my top four are |
| 02:37:32.95 | Steven Woodside | say up to your top four at this point? |
| 02:37:35.63 | Joan Cox | I'm just going to say my top three, which is Mellie Zhao, Nan Farley, and... |
| 02:37:35.94 | Steven Woodside | I'm sure. |
| 02:37:36.11 | Melissa Blaustein | to the next one. |
| 02:37:40.85 | Joan Cox | Yoshitome. |
| 02:37:41.66 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. for. |
| 02:37:42.43 | Joan Cox | I know, but I'm just going to say three. you |
| 02:37:44.48 | Melissa Blaustein | I'm sorry. |
| 02:37:45.50 | Joan Cox | Because I don't want to say I loved everybody, so I don't want to... ding anybody, but I had specific reasons for Nan, Yoshi, and Mellie. Okay. |
| 02:37:54.79 | Melissa Blaustein | I'll go next. I have specific reasons for Jordan Dodds and Alex Alioto. |
| 02:37:59.04 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Bye. |
| 02:37:59.41 | Melissa Blaustein | um and and yoshi tomei And Nan, I guess. I guess Mellie, it's so hard though. She's also fantastic. I know. That's what came out first. That's why, yeah. Okay. |
| 02:38:08.47 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. That's why, yeah. Okay. So let me, let me, it's okay. It's hard to. |
| 02:38:12.45 | Ian Sobieski | I'm writing these down. I'm playing secretary. Thank you. |
| 02:38:15.17 | Joan Cox | Okay, great. |
| 02:38:15.53 | Ian Sobieski | Okay. All right. |
| 02:38:17.64 | Joan Cox | Well, Deirdre's here. I know. |
| 02:38:19.52 | Ian Sobieski | I started writing it down. She can check my math or I can check hers. |
| 02:38:20.12 | Joan Cox | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 02:38:26.19 | Sergio Rudin | Thank you. |
| 02:38:26.23 | Ian Sobieski | THEIR HOME. |
| 02:38:26.56 | Sergio Rudin | Thank you. |
| 02:38:26.58 | Ian Sobieski | And, uh... |
| 02:38:26.60 | Sergio Rudin | Mayor, we actually have a municipal code provision on how we are supposed to go about nominating and voting on appointments to boards and commissions, surprisingly. |
| 02:38:27.03 | Sandra Bushmaker | to the next one. |
| 02:38:27.08 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:38:35.03 | Steven Woodside | You mean we have this in the municipal code? We do. A specific procedure on how to do it? |
| 02:38:39.54 | Sergio Rudin | We do. We do. That was my fault. |
| 02:38:40.18 | Melissa Blaustein | We do. |
| 02:38:41.41 | Jill Hoffman | That was my fault. |
| 02:38:41.97 | Melissa Blaustein | staff report. Okay, so then |
| 02:38:43.86 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:38:44.09 | Sergio Rudin | This is a two-fifth-eight-oh-twenty. |
| 02:38:45.90 | Steven Woodside | should go. |
| 02:38:46.61 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:38:46.66 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:38:46.78 | Jill Hoffman | on. |
| 02:38:46.80 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 02:38:46.96 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:38:48.25 | Sergio Rudin | After conclusions of interviews, the mayor has the opportunity to announce the name of his or her preference for appointment. If more than one vacancy exists on a particular board or commission, the mayor announced one name for each vacancy. Every person whose name has been announced by the mayor or by a city council member shall be denominated and eligible for appointment. Upon conclusion of the nomination process, the city clerk shall take a roll call vote of the members of the city council as to the appointment. Each council member may vote for one nominee for each vacancy. |
| 02:39:03.60 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 02:39:03.64 | Alice Merrill | . |
| 02:39:18.45 | Sergio Rudin | To be appointed a nominee must receive at least three votes. If no nominee receives three votes for a particular vacancy, the clerk shall repeat the roll call vote until the vacancy is filled. So. |
| 02:39:29.91 | Joan Cox | Can we do it? Can he do it one at a time? |
| 02:39:31.89 | Sergio Rudin | that are going to be a |
| 02:39:31.94 | Joan Cox | I don't know. |
| 02:39:31.97 | Ian Sobieski | done it that way before. |
| 02:39:33.47 | Joan Cox | No, we have, just not this council, but we have many times in the past. |
| 02:39:33.50 | Ian Sobieski | No, we do. |
| 02:39:38.43 | Steven Woodside | Okay, we have two choices. We can invent our own process tonight. or we can follow that elaborate process. |
| 02:39:45.74 | Joan Cox | No. |
| 02:39:46.75 | Steven Woodside | And if we follow the elaborate process, apparently I get to make |
| 02:39:49.70 | Joan Cox | You get to say who you'd like. |
| 02:39:51.33 | Steven Woodside | So there are five candidates. And there are |
| 02:39:53.86 | Joan Cox | spots. |
| 02:39:53.89 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. There are four spots now and one in February. |
| 02:39:58.57 | Joan Cox | What if you just say who you'd like to be the alternate until February? |
| 02:40:02.67 | Steven Woodside | I'm not sure. Oh, gosh. |
| 02:40:06.36 | Joan Cox | Here's the list. |
| 02:40:07.10 | Steven Woodside | I know I've got I've got fair. Well, what she's suggesting is that I I name for for appointment tonight. |
| 02:40:08.86 | Joan Cox | That's unfair. |
| 02:40:17.97 | Steven Woodside | So I would choose the same for that the vice mayor. |
| 02:40:22.65 | Melissa Blaustein | mentioned. Jordan Dodds, Alex Alioto, Nan Farley, and Yoshitome. |
| 02:40:24.49 | Steven Woodside | Alec. |
| 02:40:28.55 | Steven Woodside | Right. |
| 02:40:28.84 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 02:40:29.02 | Joan Cox | And Mellie becomes the |
| 02:40:31.32 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 02:40:31.34 | Joan Cox | I would support that as well. Alternate member in February. |
| 02:40:31.37 | Steven Woodside | I would support that as well. |
| 02:40:35.76 | Joan Cox | Those are your nominees. Go ahead. |
| 02:40:37.34 | Steven Woodside | So those are the nominees. So now what, Sergio? |
| 02:40:42.78 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:40:42.79 | Sergio Rudin | I think roll call vote. Given the council's unanimity on Putting that slate forward, it's probably efficient just to take a single roll call vote. |
| 02:40:52.70 | Jill Hoffman | Well, but hold on, let's discuss it for a minute because I think we have the one artist. That's why I said the only one I really wanted to be on the slate was Mei Li. Ms. Farley. |
| 02:41:03.31 | Ian Sobieski | Ms. Farley is a watercolorist. I believe. |
| 02:41:05.83 | Jill Hoffman | No, but Maylee represents 35 artists in her gallery. She's a business woman. She runs a gallery. She represents 35 other artists. She represents the artist community. So that's why I feel like she's really important on EDAC. |
| 02:41:21.74 | Steven Woodside | I think all five are going to be really effective and important on EDAC. And I think, um, We just need to get what we- |
| 02:41:28.98 | Jill Hoffman | I mean, Stephen, I'm the representative. I'm the council liaison. I'm asking for one person. I don't think that's too much to ask. Thank you. |
| 02:41:36.93 | Sophia Collier | Thank you. |
| 02:41:37.03 | Jill Hoffman | Mr. Mayor. I'll support everybody else. All the other picks anybody ever asked, I'm just asking for one concession on the five people. I don't think that's too much, but I think we need an artist. And she's the leader of 35 artists. I know. |
| 02:41:53.74 | Steven Woodside | I know I like her. I want her to serve. And we have one meeting coming up soon. And then we have another quarterly meeting. And in the meantime, all five could dig in and become active on committees. So in effect, all five are being appointed tonight. Thank you. |
| 02:42:12.94 | Joan Cox | So you can invite Neely to start attending even because she will be an alternate. So she can start attending right away. |
| 02:42:12.96 | Steven Woodside | They're not. |
| 02:42:20.26 | Joan Cox | I don't know. |
| 02:42:20.47 | Jill Hoffman | I don't think you can know. |
| 02:42:20.67 | Joan Cox | you |
| 02:42:20.70 | Steven Woodside | I'm just following the procedure that the Um, I can't believe it. |
| 02:42:25.28 | Jill Hoffman | I can't believe it. You guys can't support me in this one thing. I'm asking for one |
| 02:42:26.51 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:42:29.97 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Concession. |
| 02:42:31.40 | Joan Cox | I support you, Jill, but we are outvoted, I think. Okay. |
| 02:42:35.43 | Steven Woodside | I just nominated the ones I know best, I guess, is how to put it. |
| 02:42:35.62 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. Thank you. One, you guys can't give me, you can't give Joan and I, you can't support Joan and I one seat. I'm going to vote no. I'm the council liaison of the EDAC. There's 35 artists in town who Dr. Zhu represents She owns a gallery. She's a businesswoman in town. She represents, she's a Chinese business woman in town. and you're not going to appoint her to EDAC as a representative. |
| 02:43:06.08 | Steven Woodside | I am nominating her to be effective in February. |
| 02:43:11.73 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 02:43:11.77 | Alex Alioto | Okay. |
| 02:43:12.27 | Steven Woodside | and the alternate right away. I don't think this precludes her full participation at the outset. just trying to follow the procedure that the city attorney outlined and i think we can take it on one vote if we if we can and, um, Sorry, this is being debated because we have five excellent candidates who have terrific ideas. |
| 02:43:34.99 | Jill Hoffman | I'm disappointed. |
| 02:43:36.44 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 02:43:37.16 | Jill Hoffman | I'm disappointed. |
| 02:43:37.32 | Ian Sobieski | I'm not. |
| 02:43:38.89 | Jill Hoffman | I'm very disappointed. |
| 02:43:43.76 | Jill Hoffman | extremely disappointed. |
| 02:43:44.05 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:43:44.15 | Samantha Schubert | I'm going to be |
| 02:43:47.63 | Steven Woodside | Can we have a roll call vote? |
| 02:43:48.67 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. I think we should have further discussion on this. I'm not understanding this vote at all. How is it that you Thank you. Good. that. that a female Chinese businesswoman doctor is not qualified to be appointed to eat at. |
| 02:44:13.61 | Steven Woodside | I don't think that. As I said before, I'm nominating five people One would take effect in February. The others would take effect immediately. And the one taking effect in February will serve as an alternate. None of this precludes their very active participation starting right now. |
| 02:44:36.41 | Melissa Blaustein | What if we- Explain this. I'm not getting it. What- Okay. I'm not getting it. Why is it- |
| 02:44:36.77 | Jill Hoffman | So explain this. I'm not getting it. I'm not getting it. Why is it? |
| 02:44:43.84 | Melissa Blaustein | vote to increase the number of, I mean, there are very qualified and it's really difficult to be in the position to have to make a decision. And I think we could be able to start them all if we can. So can we just say. |
| 02:44:52.90 | Ian Sobieski | Who's- The reason is that we have six vacancies coming up in February. These are hard to fill. I think the... |
| 02:44:58.30 | Joan Cox | We established the number by ordinance, so we can't change that tonight. |
| 02:45:01.47 | Ian Sobieski | And his proposal is perfect, Dr. Zou. Starts in February. Tell me why. So I'd like to call the question, bring this to a close. |
| 02:45:05.47 | Jill Hoffman | So I'd like to call you. |
| 02:45:07.51 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:45:09.33 | Jill Hoffman | I'm trying to understand this. So you guys tell me why Alex or Jordan |
| 02:45:09.50 | Ian Sobieski | So... |
| 02:45:15.33 | Steven Woodside | be browbeaten. |
| 02:45:16.39 | Jill Hoffman | I don't get it. |
| 02:45:16.47 | Steven Woodside | I don't get it. I have to say, if someone would call for the question, we can have a roll. I call the question. |
| 02:45:17.18 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. |
| 02:45:22.67 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Let's have a roll call. |
| 02:45:24.20 | Deirdre Coyne | Councilmember Cox. |
| 02:45:27.41 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 02:45:28.15 | Deirdre Coyne | Councilmember Hoffman. No, for the reasons I've stated, sorry. Council member Sobieski. |
| 02:45:29.58 | Jill Hoffman | No, for the reasons I've stated. |
| 02:45:33.95 | Wayne | Yes. |
| 02:45:34.53 | Deirdre Coyne | Vice Mayor Blaustein? Yes. Mayor Woodside? |
| 02:45:37.75 | Wayne | Thank you. |
| 02:45:37.77 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 02:45:41.99 | Steven Woodside | So we've made a decision on the appointments. I wish all five good luck. |
| 02:45:48.35 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 02:45:51.93 | Joan Cox | Congratulations to Yoshi, Jordan, and Alex, who are here in our chambers. |
| 02:45:58.29 | Steven Woodside | And to the other two online, congratulations. |
| 02:46:00.06 | Joan Cox | And to the other two online. |
| 02:46:01.39 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 02:46:01.58 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 02:46:04.75 | Steven Woodside | I'm glad we have the number of vacancies we have, because these are all very, well-qualified, excellent applicants. And we're very grateful for their stepping forward. |
| 02:46:12.80 | Samantha Schubert | very |
| 02:46:16.16 | Steven Woodside | So now we, have an issue, I think, kind of near and dear to Yoshi's heart, and that's parking on Caledonia Street. Kevin, sorry you've had to wait so long, but this is your item. |
| 02:46:35.85 | Kevin McGowan | Good evening, Mayor, members of City Council. I'm Kevin McGowan, Public Works Director for Sausalito. And I'm going to be here. Item 5B before you this evening. is an item related to Caledonia Street. And this evening we have our two consultants who are going to make the presentation to you. And give me one sec here while we've got the presentation up. Before I introduce them, I want to thank Sarah Korshidafard, our staff member who is our project manager who has managed this project for us. So many thanks, Sarah. She's in the audience this evening. And we have Zachary Davis from SWA, who's going to present tonight. And Jimmy Jessup from Parametrics is our traffic consultant as well. So I will... Turn the microphone over to Zachary and Move forward. |
| 02:47:35.42 | Zachary Davis | Good evening, council members. I know it's been a long day already. We have a fun topic, I hope, and a bit of a slideshow. We'll move through it relatively quickly here. Who's advancing slides for me? Thank you. OK, my name is Zachary Davis. I'm with S.W.A. Landscape Architects and Urban Design. The topic at hand, of course, is parking on Caledonia Street. It's kind of an immediate safety issue relative to AB 413, as I think you all well know and have discussed plenty. So we'll go into that a little bit. The real question at hand, I think, is as we solve the near term safety issue, What else should we consider that might make sense? |
| 02:48:16.60 | Ian Sobieski | Could you speak a little bit more into the microphone? Yes, can you hear me now? Yeah, better. |
| 02:48:18.47 | Zachary Davis | Yes, can you hear me now? Yeah, better. Thank you. So as we consider the near term safety issue, I think it's important for us all to take a look at the potential for urban design and ramifications to kind of better revitalize Caledonia and downtown. Next, please. So what we'll do is we'll do a brief background on AB 413 and show you an overview of a study area on Caledonia and neighboring streets. some scenarios we studied with parking counts, some proposals that we have that came out of those studies. ask what will show you prototypical intersections of what could be done to address the immediate AB requirements and also potentially go further and then we'll request council direction The next slide, please. This shows Caledonia Street and in red kind of the ramifications. So for Caledonia itself and the immediate side streets, AB 413 would result in a loss of 21 parking spaces. So the ordinance, of course, prohibits parking within 20 feet of a crosswalk. And that's a sight line issue for pedestrian safety. You know, with a vehicle that's five feet, six feet tall, it blocks sight lines. And so you don't wanna have parking within the view triangle of the intersection. The other thing that's important to note here is in green, What congregates around intersections, of course, those are 20-minute spaces. Those are very important along Caledonia. So I would say that 21 is Caledonia and its immediate side streets. Of course, the ramifications for downtown Sausalito are greater than that, probably double. OK, next slide. |
| 02:50:26.60 | Zachary Davis | So what can we do? Thank you. to solve the immediate ordinance and perhaps make smart moves that could create a, a more vibrant street. We think we have some things that we could do. Next slide, please. um, What we do know about pedestrian safety is that Sight lines are important, of course. Crossing distance is important. If we can shorten that, that helps everybody. Under AB 413, you need 20 feet back of sidewalk before you can have a parking space. If you do curb extensions, either quick build like paint, bollards, things like that, or more permanent construction like raised vertical curbs, you can reduce that requirement to 15 feet. And that becomes important as we study these streets. Next slide just shows some examples of kind of Paint Solutions to this problem. Let's take a look at some design alternatives in the study. Next slide, please. And one more. Thank you. Okay, so here we are, Caledonia Street circled in red, which is our immediate focus, but we studied a bit wider than that to understand it. Next slide, please. The study area here was what is kind of outlined in black. It goes up to Bridgeway, not including Bridgeway, to Bonita, including Bonita, Napa on the north, not including, but up to, and Johnson on the south side, up to, but not including. So that's kind of the study area that we looked at. Within this existing today, there's about 350 parking spaces, give or take. AB 413 would reduce that down to 305. Thank you. |
| 02:52:28.10 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 02:52:28.24 | Zachary Davis | Next slide, please. We took a look at what could you do immediately as a quick fix just to comply with the ordinance. That would be red paint on curbs just to knock out parking spaces that are within the 20 feet from the crosswalks. If you did just Caledonia now, if you just did red paint and optimized spaces, the parallel spaces that exist, within current municipal code. So I'll say it this way. |
| 02:52:58.75 | Ian Sobieski | Could I ask you to try to speak into the microphone? Yes. I'm sorry. |
| 02:53:00.74 | Zachary Davis | Yes, I'm sorry. Because I'm in trouble hearing you. Remind me every time. It's obviously important that you can hear me. You can pick it up and hold it in your hand if you want. |
| 02:53:06.14 | Ian Sobieski | I mean. |
| 02:53:08.42 | Zachary Davis | Thank you. |
| 02:53:08.53 | Ian Sobieski | BEFORE. |
| 02:53:08.74 | Zachary Davis | Is that better? Whatever makes you well. I just ripped it out of the kiosk. |
| 02:53:10.71 | Ian Sobieski | It makes you well. |
| 02:53:14.14 | Zachary Davis | I'd like to take it up to the screen, but okay, is that better for everyone? Can you take it up to the screen if you need? |
| 02:53:19.98 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 02:53:20.03 | Zachary Davis | No, I'm wired in here. Okay. |
| 02:53:20.84 | Ian Sobieski | No, I'm wired in here. Thank you. |
| 02:53:23.96 | Zachary Davis | You can hear my phone? So just looking at Caledonia itself... if you did the red paint, Within current municipal code. Parallel spaces can be 19 feet long. Um, right now we've got a variety up to 22 feet i believe we've got some big spaces if you optimized and re-striped to the current municipal code you could recoup Um, 11 spaces, so instead of losing 21 in this immediate area, you're only losing 10. Within that, of course, there's inefficiencies. So you're going to have bigger spaces and smaller spaces. It's not that all of them will be tiny 19-foot spaces. And when I say tiny, that's a full-size space. But within the mix, you would still have 20-foot, 21- and 22-foot spaces. So there is a low-hanging fruit solution here to simply solve this with red paint and re-striping. Okay. Next option that we took a look at. was if you go a step further and you do curb extensions, these could be quick fix, quick build rather, paint, bollards, things like that. Now you're talking about reducing the required offset from crosswalks to 15 feet instead of 20, or it could be permanent raised curb which allows some other things that we'll talk about, that would mitigate the reduction down to simply three spaces lost within the Caledonia and its immediate side streets. That's by doing the curb extensions and re-striping within current municipal code. Okay. That's option one. Option two. Next slide, please. We took a look further out in the neighborhood. One thing you could do is that exact intervention on Caledonia, and you could take a look at re-striping the side streets within current municipal code. rather than having parallel parking on two sides, have perpendicular parking on one side, and no parking on the other. That's within current municipal code dimensions, and it would add spaces. you could take the net effect for the study area and actually increase the parking count by 40 to 50 spaces with this approach. Option three takes it one step further. You're doing the same intervention on Caledonia, The same intervention on the side streets Plus parallel parking on the other side. This one. potentially adds 100 to 110 parking spaces, but it comes with amendments to municipal code. Okay, so now there's, some things that are not per current code dimensions, and we'll talk about that in a bit. So to summarize the options that we just looked at, Next slide, please. Just to comply with AB 413, we would lose the 21. That's local to Caledonia. It's more like 40 within the study area, okay? We can bring back 11 of those spaces simply by restriping within municipal code and red paint. Very quick fix. if we want to do curb extensions either quick build or a more sophisticated i'll call it raised curb that can do some other things for us we'll get into we're down to minus three spaces just locally to caledonia then option two potentially adds 40 to 50 spaces to the study area option three which does require updating or amendment to municipal code could add 100 to 110. Okay? Next slide, please. Just to drill down a little bit on option three, which is the most aggressive, the aisle dimensions, that is the backup space, pulling out from perpendicular parked on the side streets with a parallel parked car behind you is less than what is typically recommended. Also, that 18-foot two-way travel lane, it can work practically for cars to pass at low speeds. It's not the 20-feet state fire code. Okay? |
| 02:57:52.30 | Steven Woodside | Next slide, please. Before you move on, just to be clear, those comments are related to option three? To option three, yes, sir. Okay, thank you. I just wanted to make sure I understood. |
| 02:58:02.78 | Zachary Davis | This is a picture of Litho Street and how people are using it. So it's parallel parked one side, it's perpendicular on the other. It's happening. It's not per municipal code, but It's out there. OK, let's drill down on intersections just a little bit. Next slide, please. This is a current condition. It shows Caledonia running left and right on the screen and a typical side street up and down. What I will note about this that's not shown on the slide that's important is there are 20-minute green curb spaces congregated around the intersection, not at every space, but at a lot of those spaces right next to the crosswalks. Those are important. We're gonna preserve those in every scheme that we talk about. Okay, next slide shows the implications of AB 413. If you simply paint red curb and go 20 feet back from existing crosswalks, generally you're gonna lose four spaces per intersection. Next slide. shows either quick build or permanent curb extensions. This solution would preserve green spaces, 20-minute zones, and allow you to essentially mitigate for the impact, down three for the full Caledonia extent. But it's a way of, what we're doing here is, because you're only 15 feet back of crosswalk now, and you optimize your parallel striping to existing municipal code, you gain back just about everything. You nearly mitigate for AB 413 with this. The other thing that you do that's really good is you're reducing those crosswalk widths down. Instead of crossing a 40 foot street, You're crossing a 20 or a 22 foot street, much safer. Okay, next slide, please. This one shows if you re-stripe side streets within current municipal code, perpendicular on one side and simple travel lanes on the other, no parallel parking. You can add, you start adding spaces. It's one in this little local study area, but it's the 40 to 50 over the full study area. Next slide is the one that requires code amendments, but this really starts adding spaces, you know, 100 to 110 within the study area. |
| 03:00:32.95 | Zachary Davis | let's take a look at some examples and renderings. One more slide. Yeah. Okay. So these are some international examples of curb extensions, quick build ones in this case could add color, could add vibrancy. Next slide shows existing condition. This is a, Actually, it's a Google Street View that softened just a touch, but it's very real, right at Caledonia and Turney. And the next slide shows what we could get if we did permanent curb extensions. The advantage to doing this is... Now you create planting interest. You also create new space and it's sidewalk space. It's not street space. It's people space or planting space. So next slide please. You see a little red piece of art in the background. So with this you get options. You can do planting or you can do art or you can do social spaces with benches and chairs. You could do Lighting. You could do. like parking. all the kinds of things that help make Caledonia Street and downtown better. Next slide, please. Seasonal interest with the planting, of course. Irrigation is going to be an issue here. We need to think about what we have and what we need to do to make planting real. It also comes with potential drainage changes. So if you do raise curbs, you do have to look at how that's impacting current drainage flows. You may have to add some inlets and some storm drain infrastructure to make this happen. Next slide, please. So again, the advantages for kind of permanent vertical curb extensions, trees and planting, seeding areas... safer crossing distances, potential for lighting, potential for art and social spaces, and bike parking. Next slide. OK, what we'd like to do at this point is Determine if there's a preferred approach or if there's a pilot project that kind of makes sense to test things out. Confirm if there's an appetite to look at municipal code and if that's worth updating. And ultimately authorize SWA and Paramatrix, the design firms, to do drawings for implementation and get to construction to deal with the actual ordinance. Next slide, please. So we're seeking direction from council on option one. That's kind of restriping Caledonia within municipal code just to optimize parallel parking down about had. 11 spaces, I believe, from the 21 or down 10 from the 21. Option two. Um. is to restripe Caledonia with ball belts and do perpendicular parking on the side streets. To drill down on that one just a little bit, next slide, please. We took a look at it. What you really want to do there is focus on the low-hanging fruit. Caledonia Street, of course, is included in this improvement proposal, but it's not circled in yellow. But the streets that would make the most sense, Caledonia, Bee, Litho, Locust, and Turney, those would be the ones that you would really look at for restriping because you get the most bang out of it. We're saying 35 added here. We know in the whole neighborhood, if you did everything, you could gain 40 to 50. Conservatively, we're saying 35. The reason for that is some streets only yield an uptick of one or two spaces. That may not be worth the headache of re-striping. You also want to back out just a little bit for sight lines at driveways and potentially where the side streets get steep. We've got to look at those. You may not want to do it all the way up on the steepest reaches. You may want to make those spaces a little wider so that door swings are not such an issue. So conservatively, you could do an approach like this with permanent ball bouts on Caledonia and re-striping of the four side streets that are shown and gain 35 or so spaces back to the neighborhood. That's after implementing AB 413. So instead of losing 21, you're adding 35. Next slide, please. I'm going to turn it back to Kevin for the last... bit here and then we've got two last images just to share. |
| 03:05:20.62 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you so much. we go that's a little bit better um implementation i just want to remind the council that the consultants are recommending option two at this point staff basically um want to step back a little bit we haven't we haven't notified any of the residents in the area the perpendicular parking is proposed i think that would be necessary it does change the character a little bit of the community As far as implementation itself, keep in mind that Caledonia It's a microsurfaced road. It has thermoplastic. We don't, on our staff, we don't have the ability to put that down. So we'd have to hire a contractor to do that work. which is possible. And however, some of the side streets, if you want to move forward with paint, we can do that as well. The consultant is recommending bulb outs, possibly concrete could be safer. However, it was mentioned that drainage is an issue. So we'd have to definitely take a look at that. drainage for the roadway itself to make sure it can go around the bulb outs. So with that, I gave you a little schedule up here. This is just kind of preliminary. We're like a month and a half out if we can get sketches fairly quickly and get a contractor on board to do the work. That's key at this time of the year. A contractor is very busy before it starts raining, especially striping contractors. So I believe that completes our presentation. Thank you. |
| 03:06:47.75 | Steven Woodside | I think we want to have time for council questions now, but I would encourage questions to be brief so that we can hear from, I know there are at least two people who have businesses along Caledonia and probably have opinions, and there may be others in the audience who would like to share their views. I want to make sure we hear those. |
| 03:06:48.31 | Kevin McGowan | INCREASING. |
| 03:06:55.95 | Samantha Schubert | Yeah. |
| 03:07:02.85 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 03:07:10.23 | Steven Woodside | Go ahead. |
| 03:07:10.31 | Ian Sobieski | Zach, are you a magician? Can you pull a rabbit out of your hat? I mean, holy smokes to go from what we were looking at a few months ago to adding 30 spaces is magic and the possibility of more is tremendous. But my question then for you is, I was trying to, discern what you meant in option two about temporary bulb outs. The director of public works talked about drainage issues and whatnot, but I also seem to have read something about the possibility of doing these bulb outs in paint. So you don't actually have to construct anything that's going to interfere with drains. Talk a little more about that. |
| 03:07:48.80 | Zachary Davis | Correct. That's a nuance. So if you do quick build, you know, not rate, not vertical curb, you can yield the same parking numbers. What you don't get is people space. It's still part of the street. it's protected, you know, but you're not going to have planting and you're not going to have social spaces where people would be comfortable parking bikes or sitting on benches. That's kind of the difference. Two questions about that, right? |
| 03:08:13.96 | Ian Sobieski | Now we use the temper... I don't know if there's temporary paint, but we use paint to mark off the restaurant section of Caledonia. uh, that does actually have some nice plantings and whatnot. Could you as a preliminary step use temporary markings to mark out the ball bouts and still would it be legal to put in, Or can you put in little planters and a bench and |
| 03:08:37.37 | Zachary Davis | Absolutely. I'd say you just need to do it. You need to do things that make sense, right? So you could do bollards if you want to put benches in people spaces. You could do raised planters if you want to have planting, you know, planter pots, things like this. You can do planter pots to armor people spaces. So there's a variety of things that you could do with a painted solution. So it does in some ways lend itself to kind of a Stage one, a phase one, do something that complies with the ordinance and maps out what you want to do in a more permanent build later. can study the ramifications of drainage and other things in the meantime. Okay. |
| 03:09:13.18 | Ian Sobieski | so we could look at it. |
| 03:09:13.97 | Zachary Davis | So, |
| 03:09:14.04 | Ian Sobieski | Oh, sorry. Go ahead. |
| 03:09:14.97 | Zachary Davis | Yes, sir. |
| 03:09:15.22 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 03:09:15.29 | Jimmy Jessup | Hi, thanks. Jimmy Jessup, Traffic Engineer with Carametrics, and working together with Zach and SWA on this effort. I just want to add to Zach's response, which is correct. |
| 03:09:17.41 | Zachary Davis | Hi, Jim. |
| 03:09:17.82 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 03:09:17.85 | Zachary Davis | Thank you. |
| 03:09:26.76 | Jimmy Jessup | The area in a painted curb extension could be used just as the parklets are currently in the one-way segment of Caledonia. In this instance, the CVC, the California Vehicle Code, does implement the restriction on parking in order to maintain site distance between a motorist and a pedestrian that would be standing at that corner. So installations that are three feet or lower in general is what we would consider permissible as per the California vehicle code, bike racks, planters of the like, but three feet and below. |
| 03:10:01.51 | Ian Sobieski | I'm not sure. Awesome. That's great news. Thank you. Then I have a question actually for a chief or actually Wayne, perhaps, which is, so we're going to increase the amount of parking potentially with option two by 30 with option three could be as much as a hundred. That's parking that currently does not exist. That's a net increase in parking. We have a tradition of residents always parking free, but could we put meters on the new spots, still letting residents be free? And at 30, that by my count would be something like $30,000 at a hundred, we might make more than a hundred thousand dollars on parking that could help pay for this project. |
| 03:10:45.11 | Wayne | Good evening, council. My name is Wayne, I'm the police department parking manager. Thank you for the question. So typically anytime, you know, we want to evaluate any space for paid parking by occupancy. And I mean, I think the short answer would be yes, but I think, you know, it requires some additional legwork. I think outreach to communities is also important. Um, get their input and they're typically, some steps required, some study required as far as occupancy goes because you want to implementing paid parking, you want to make sure that there's enough turnover in order to generate parking revenue. So I think those numbers need to take into consideration. You know, because when you're investing into parking pay station and infrastructure, you want to make sure the payback it's a reasonable time. |
| 03:11:46.67 | Ian Sobieski | But just to be precise, we have 30 additional parking spaces here. If the spaces stayed free to residents, but we wanted to charge them for visitors. Could we implement that? And rather than doing a study ahead of time, would it be theoretically possible to implement it and then react to the actual user data. see how much money we make and whether they're not. |
| 03:12:08.44 | Wayne | I mean, again, I think, you know, as far as policy goes, if you want to implement, allow residents free parking in a meter space is typically not standard procedure, because now the residents taking up that space, no one is feeding it. But again, if that's something that you want to enter into a resolution, that's |
| 03:12:31.52 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 03:12:31.54 | Wayne | Thank you. |
| 03:12:31.58 | Ian Sobieski | We did do such a resolution for Bridgeway south of Princess Street when we authorized the extension of paid parking meters in currently unpaid spots. So we did actually pass such a resolution for those spots. I know they haven't been able to spot yet. Yeah. But could we use that as a mirror for doing something like that. |
| 03:12:46.21 | Samantha Schubert | Thank you. |
| 03:12:46.31 | Wayne | Yeah. |
| 03:12:49.80 | Ian Sobieski | on these new additional spaces. Thank you. |
| 03:12:52.57 | Wayne | So, |
| 03:12:52.64 | Ian Sobieski | I'm not sure. |
| 03:12:52.87 | Wayne | So, |
| 03:12:52.92 | Ian Sobieski | So, |
| 03:12:52.97 | Wayne | So since we last spoke, some of the additional information came up when we researched that resolution. I think some of the language needs to be clarified, so some of the language outlined in that resolution, South Thunder Bridgeway, east side. So the spaces are actually on the west side. So we'll just need to double check some of the language down there. I was just |
| 03:13:18.03 | Ian Sobieski | asking if it could be a model for doing something Bye. here on these new spaces that we're adding, the net new spaces, not me doing any current space. It's the net new spaces. Yes, for the new spaces. Thank you. No more questions, Mayor. Thank you so much. |
| 03:13:32.65 | Steven Woodside | I have a question tonight. We have recommendation of option two, which adds up to 30 spaces requires, I'm not sure who should answer this, requires no change to the municipal code, No change to suddenly charge for parking in the neighborhood. |
| 03:13:52.05 | Unknown | Bye. |
| 03:13:59.09 | Steven Woodside | and does not preclude going forward with additional efforts to either have paid parking or go beyond it to seek the changes in municipal code to go to maybe 100 spaces whether it's paid parking or not i think what i i just want to know what the recommendation is which is tonight to go forward with the and I believe it's the bulb out, not just the painted version. Is that... is, which is tonight to go forward with the three, and I believe it's the bulb out, not just the painted version. Is that your recommendation? |
| 03:14:35.24 | Zachary Davis | Everything that you've said is accurate. I think you could do this with painted curb extensions. In other words, quick build curb extensions rather than permanent raised curb. And that approach would allow you to do it quickly without ramifications to drainage patterns. But it would also be a nice way of mocking up what the permanent could be. |
| 03:14:58.56 | Steven Woodside | Is there a difference from a safety point of view between those two alternatives for ball bouts, the quick versus the |
| 03:15:07.81 | Zachary Davis | Well, as an urban design professional, I would say it this way. Raised curb to delineate pedestrian sidewalk space from – I'll let you speak too. Raised curb to delineate pedestrian street sidewalk space is going to be safer than just paint and bollards and raised planters, particularly if you're doing things like bike parking or benches, you know, seating social spaces in those zones. But it can be achieved in a safe way through paint and other measures, as long as you're careful about what uses you're doing within those spaces that aren't curb separated. Yeah. |
| 03:15:47.17 | Steven Woodside | And one last question in terms of timing. The painted alternative, I assume, can be done much more quickly without the complications of drainage and or construction. I think that's very. |
| 03:15:58.58 | Zachary Davis | I think that's fair to say, yes. |
| 03:16:01.10 | Steven Woodside | Okay, those are my questions. Ms. Cox. |
| 03:16:05.15 | Zachary Davis | Thank you. |
| 03:16:05.16 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
| 03:16:05.58 | Steven Woodside | And I see your hand, Jill. I'm not ignoring you. |
| 03:16:05.77 | Kevin McGowan | See you. Actually, Mayor, I have a comment on that. Please remember that it's thermoplastic on Caledonia. So. We could put paint down, but it would fade. So we want to put thermoplastic back down on Caledonia, so we will need a contractor for that work. |
| 03:16:25.06 | Joan Cox | So. Director McGowan Thank you. Thank you for bringing up money. Um, could we do the paint as a pilot project to see how it works? And then, you know, because it's less expensive, faster to do implements immediately. And then, um, So, you can assess and then move to a more permanent solution. |
| 03:16:52.94 | Kevin McGowan | Yes and no. So the part that's yes is we could put paint down. We have to understand that it's gonna fade. |
| 03:16:58.96 | Fred Moore | Yep. |
| 03:16:59.23 | Kevin McGowan | because the tar mixes with the paint and it will, you won't see it as well. However, We will need a contractor to grind out the existing T's and L's along the street in order to put in new striping. |
| 03:17:12.78 | Joan Cox | What, so I saw some pricing under your fiscal impact, but it was not clear to me the pricing for options one, two, and three. Thank you. |
| 03:17:22.64 | Kevin McGowan | No. |
| 03:17:22.97 | Joan Cox | We haven't priced that yet. |
| 03:17:24.32 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
| 03:17:24.88 | Joan Cox | Can somebody give me a rough order of magnitude about the disparity. for pricing between options one, two and three. And Director McGowan, where is this money coming from? Because we're already in a deficit position. |
| 03:17:40.44 | Kevin McGowan | So painting can be done by city forces. So that's a good thing. We could do that on the side streets. I suspect that most of the Major contract work will have to be on Caledonia for the grinding and putting in thermo. As far as a price, my guess, and it is a guess, |
| 03:17:59.58 | Joan Cox | Bye. |
| 03:17:59.98 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. is less than 50,000 for that type of work. |
| 03:18:03.41 | Joan Cox | So that's within the city manager authority. |
| 03:18:06.38 | Kevin McGowan | Yes, it is. |
| 03:18:07.07 | Joan Cox | Okay, thank you. And that's for option one. No, that's option two. That's option two with paint instead of the plastic. |
| 03:18:15.03 | Kevin McGowan | stick. Yes, because the side streets can have paint. Okay. |
| 03:18:19.47 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 03:18:19.49 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
| 03:18:19.54 | Joan Cox | Okay. Thank you, Director McGowan. And thank you so much for hiring these magicians. |
| 03:18:19.64 | Kevin McGowan | Okay. Other questions at this point? |
| 03:18:21.97 | Lauren DeRiemer | you |
| 03:18:27.49 | Joan Cox | And Sarah, this is just, this has been what I've been just, hoping for however long ever since AB 413 was passed. |
| 03:18:37.36 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Thank you. I know Jill has questions. I just looked the other way just to see if you had anything else. Jill. |
| 03:18:43.67 | Jill Hoffman | Thanks. Thank you. Yeah, I think, Kevin, I just wanted to confirm or give me the update. We had talked that you're at least going to put red paint on the curbs for AB 413. Is that, has that been done or you're going to try to get it done by August 1st? I just wondered what the status was on that. |
| 03:19:02.54 | Kevin McGowan | So we originally talked about putting red paint in where it should be on Caledonia based on the original ordinance, which was 20 feet that can still be done by us because it's paint on the curb. It's not paint on the micro surface. |
| 03:19:08.29 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:19:16.59 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, I just didn't want that to get lost. Are we still planning to go forward that as a status update? |
| 03:19:21.67 | Kevin McGowan | but it's my understanding that council would like to move forward with something different based on the presentation. |
| 03:19:28.29 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, then we'll just discuss that during our discussion on how to move forward. Thank you so much for that. |
| 03:19:33.65 | Steven Woodside | So public comments. I know there are both business owners in the audience, I see. several actually. I just want to ask if any of you are residents in the area. I'm not seeing any hands. Oh, I see one. Good. Two. Good. Okay, great. So just in no particular order, just in the way they're handed to me, Carolyn Revell for speaker, followed by Adam Driver. |
| 03:20:13.66 | Carolyn Revell | Good evening. I'm Carolyn Revell, representing Sausalito Beautiful, as you know. We commend the council for commissioning a holistic urban design study of Caledonia Street and surrounding areas to address the requirements of AB 413. As you know, you could have simply done a traffic study, but we're very impressed. pleased and impressed that you did commission this holistic urban design study The plan prepared by SWA not only adds parking places in an imaginative way to serve retailers and residents, but the bulb outs at the crosswalks provide an opportunity for placemaking, as you've heard. Sausalito Beautiful hopes to work with the designers to provide decorative planters, perhaps benches in the bulbouts, to enhance both safety and aesthetics. We would thus be complimenting our 10-year tree planting program. which we also plan to continue in coordination with this project. And we're working closely. We have been meeting with the Caledonia merchants and are well aware of their concerns. But also, of course, there are resident concerns that we also assume you're going to want to hear. But I think we could help with planting planters, whether it's paint or concrete bulb outs. |
| 03:21:32.39 | Steven Woodside | And you're referring to option two, correct? |
| 03:21:36.37 | Carolyn Revell | Yes, really, I think that's what's being recommended, and we would support option two. |
| 03:21:40.32 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Mr. Driver, followed by Joseph Rowland. |
| 03:21:49.78 | Adam Driver | Hello. Thank you guys so much for for commissioning this, for putting this into a more holistic approach. I really appreciate it. Um, I love seeing a vision of what Caledonia can be at some point. There are a couple of things I just wanted to throw out there just to make sure Um, that in doing this, we're not taking away the ability to have like delivery trucks come down. We just have to think about some of the logistics of doing this. So when we're doing the striping, making sure A 40 foot truck coming around the corner to drop off grocery goods to us is not going to take out somebody's car, things like that. So, and I'm sure that that's something that they're studying and I just want to make sure that that gets taken into account. So Um, But I'm in huge support of this. I'm actually in support, if it's possible, for the City Council to look at a pilot project of option three in conjunction with a short-term solution of the painted bulb outs and whatever, but to do... even half a block somewhere west of Caledonia Street with perpendicular and parallel to see if it can work without having to alter the municipal codes, since it's already in action on Litho Street. In effect, that is sort of a pilot project that's already in existence. So perhaps we could get feedback from residents who currently live on Litho Street and it affects their parking experience and driving experience. Um, and yeah, I think that's about it. Uh, again, just, you know, thank you so much for going in this direction. I commend you all for your. your time and your patience in this process. So thank you. |
| 03:23:38.61 | Steven Woodside | Yoshee, excuse me, Joseph Rowland. followed by Yoshitome. |
| 03:23:47.22 | Joseph Rowland | Hi, good evening. Thank you so much. I'm going to keep it short and sweet. Option two is perfect for right now, but like Adam is saying, please don't neglect the idea of expanding the parking. As you know, I think Caledonia Street is going through a huge transition in terms of businesses, the types of businesses, the vacancies that we have, the type of people that are being attracted to those vacancies. And we do need more parking. I would also urge you to consider extending the period of time in which our visitors can park. Right now, I have an apartment that's on Boakley, and I walk, and I've noticed throughout my path that streets from Boeckley, to Caledonia all have different times that you can park. permits that can park there. The spaces are all different. A sort of more consistent approach to a district that has mixed use, commercial and residential, and considering a way for us all to kind of use those spaces so that our businesses will thrive, residents will be happy, and with more parking spaces added and the availability of more parking spaces, I think that you might find people agreeing to a longer period of time for our guests, residents who have guests come and visit, who want to have them stay past six o'clock and don't go out to their car and find a ticket or end up taking up parking spaces on Caledonia Street because the party is up the street. All of that really influences what we can do as a distinct district. So I urge you to consider time and space and option two with a consideration for three. Thanks. Thank you. |
| 03:25:49.97 | Steven Woodside | Yoshi Tomei. |
| 03:25:55.11 | Steven Woodside | followed by, Alice, and I believe this must be Alice Merrill. Thank you. |
| 03:26:00.53 | Yoshi Tomei | Hi there, good evening. I'd like to say thank you for City Council to hiring SWA to creating such a wonderful idea. Month ago we talked about it, you heard our concern, it's not become ugly bridgeway. It's going to be a flower, much more safety, much more parking spaces. What a creative idea is. Thank you. Thank you, SWA, what you have done. And then also, this is an opportunity to do how we can create more parking spaces, always fighting for more parking spaces. Today, right away, we can approve option two, and option three will be looking to do so. It's a huge parking space available on the side street. Why we cannot make more parking space available, make sure residents can park, and also adjacent to the business. For example, all the movie theater next door, people cannot find a parking, come to the restaurant, park over the next theater, they got the ticket. I do not care what kind of signage on it, next division, we're getting ticket. So those areas are the ones, Councilor Sobieski suggested, park meters on it. You can park over there, pay the money. It's more clear with that. So we can avoid for that kind of situation. So we'll be business happy, residents happy, all the business people happy. And also one quick note is that After the pandemic, takeout of business became a major part of my business. And then I'd like to have more green zones, extra green zones. Every night we have like a between 5.30, 7 o'clock double parking. We don't have enough parking situation. So if it's possible to pick up zones available or add on to more green zones. Just now for me, my south end of Caledonia Street has no parking. Myself and a Thai restaurant and a pizza restaurant, Indian restaurant, takeout, when come to takeout, we don't have enough parking space that period of time. Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:28:02.32 | Steven Woodside | So Alice Merrill followed by Lauren Lowell Willow. |
| 03:28:11.36 | Alice Merrill | Hi. Okay, so I'm just going to say that make sure that the residents don't lose parking. So if it's a little closer on the Caledonia side for this kind of parking, just make sure that you don't wipe out the residents parking, because it's hard to park there. I've lived there. And then on top of that, I'm sorry, here I go again. I'm not sure. If you lived down there and you saw the amount of times that the parking trucks are running around, it's like, It's like, it's... Makes me crazy that those parking meter people are there 24-7, it feels like. And It doesn't make me, it never did make me feel good. And so is there any way that you can just stop giving tickets? And Ian says, well, we'll make money. We'll make money on whatever, maybe it's the parking meters or... But Thank you. Can we figure out some other way besides... besides scaring residents and their friends about parking, It really is only here because it doesn't happen. Am I running out of time? It really doesn't happen where I live now because nobody's there. But my gosh, the parking meters. really a lot and they're there all the time and they're very nice people but They're just giving out too many tickets. Thank you. And for the people who work on Caledonia, I don't know if you've all figured out how to get them a place to park that they're not running out every two hours to change their cars. That would be good too. Thank you. |
| 03:29:55.78 | Steven Woodside | Lauren Lil Willow. Did I get that right? Thank you. |
| 03:30:03.21 | Lauren Little Willow | Hi, my name is Lauren Little Willow. I've lived at 206 Caledonia Street. for over 60 years and I am the manager of the apartment building right next to driver's market. We love having businesses on Caledonia Street. We love that our tenants can walk to all the businesses, coffee shops. restaurants, grocery stores, all of that. But when somebody blocks us out of our parking space, it is a real hardship for us. We have to go to work. We're coming home from work. We have handicapped people. And what ended up happening when parking spaces are taken up on Caledonia Street for whatever reason... We get blocked out. People don't have any regard for our... livelihood of coming home and getting into our parking spaces. So what I'm asking you is to go for more parking spaces for residents. And we What happened on the end of the block on Caledonia Street between Johnson and Pine Street where all those parking spaces were taken out and a parklet was put in and a one lane bike lane that nobody, I never ever see anybody using that, that kind of stuff has got to stop. You have to think about Caledonia street as an open thoroughfare for residents, not just, the Bridgeways side of it. Okay. So we appreciate you and we'll do whatever we can. We'll bend with whatever you. provide for us but Please recognize the residents that live on Calumnia Street. Thank you. |
| 03:31:58.50 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Anyone else in the chambers? Seeing none, how about online? |
| 03:32:04.71 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. |
| 03:32:04.74 | Vicki Nichols | Vicki Nichols. |
| 03:32:06.26 | Steven Woodside | is Nichols. |
| 03:32:08.25 | Vicki Nichols | Hi, good evening. I no longer live on Caledonia Street, but I did for about well over 40 years. And I'm going to just say, first of all, it is commercial residential. And I want to emphasize what Lauren just said. The residents are never consulted about this. We love the businesses, but this is where we live. Those houses, I've said this so many times, I really don't think you even listen to us anymore. But there are no places to park. There are no garages. We have to park there. And by the way, we don't park for free. We have to pay to park. We have to get C-stickers. When our guests come, we buy a guest permit so they don't get a ticket. So putting parking meters there, please just stop with this. Everything is trying to be squeezed and monetized. It's too much. There are residents there too. The other thing is, where are these, I never, I'm not very clear about where these spaces are coming from. It was a very quick presentation. I hope that there's more considerate, but sounds like you're just going to go ahead and approve this tonight. None of the residents have seen this. And the idea of an urban planning design, which is what this is, this is a small residential street that has smaller scale businesses. To put park benches and everything else underneath our windows. and create lighting and stuff, I think it's enough. It's just enough. So please, there has to be a better balance here. In terms of the parallel parking and shortening those, and maybe it'll be harder to pull out, that means we're gonna get hit when people come in to park at Caledonia, because we get hit now and they don't care, they just drive away. Susan Nemitz, CA OSBORNIA, So I really wish you would consider the number of residents. You don't even know how many are living in that neighborhood, I bet, and how many requirements. Years ago, I did an occupancy study. There wasn't parking then. So Something's got to give. you know, in some instances, it's gonna be people won't come into these businesses if they can't park easily. And then you're joining a survey |
| 03:34:24.20 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. |
| 03:34:24.25 | Steven Woodside | And then you're joining me. |
| 03:34:25.58 | Deirdre Coyne | Thank you. |
| 03:34:26.38 | Steven Woodside | I think your time's up. Thank you. |
| 03:34:28.65 | Deirdre Coyne | Next, we have Kieran Culligan. |
| 03:34:33.26 | Steven Woodside | you're in. |
| 03:34:34.15 | Kieran Culligan | Hi there, Kieran Culligan, Saucyuta resident, former Caledonia resident, now live a little bit further |
| 03:34:39.55 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:34:39.57 | Steven Woodside | We can borrow with you. |
| 03:34:42.34 | Kieran Culligan | How about now? Audio, you got me? Soundcheck? |
| 03:34:49.78 | Jill Hoffman | I can hear you. |
| 03:34:50.73 | Kieran Culligan | Okay. Thank you. |
| 03:34:52.38 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:34:53.81 | Kieran Culligan | Thank you, Council Member Hoppin. Yeah, I just wanted to flag that I think option two is the way to go here. Option three is interesting. I'm not sure if Litho is the best experiment, given that there is not much parking, especially on the uphill parts, you know, that street where you actually have the configuration, but worth learning from for sure. Biggest thing for me, I call it two things. One is what we call hardened daylighting, which is the bulb outs, whether they're permanent. I mean, that is a proven safety countermeasure. So it's a lot, lot better than just painting intersections red. So that is a huge benefit for pedestrian safety, which is why this topic came up in the first place. I'm definitely a fan of that. My big question is implementation. Like we've had accidents on this street. Some could argue that it's because of the delay in city council action on this topic. when are we going to see something? Whether it's just red paint, whether it's a temporary bull out or it's something permanent like, I'm really interested to see when we start making this street safer for pedestrians, when we start reducing liability for the city, because it's been a long time. You know, this law was officially active and supposed to be implemented over a year and a half ago now. And we're still talking about this. So I'm very, very interested in timeline. Thank you. |
| 03:36:13.18 | Steven Woodside | Just on that, if I may, we, at the last time this came up, directed that. that we have an answer. on the state. And we've gotten the recommendation and answer that does, I believe, Um, implement the safety measures that are ultimately required by the state law. And there is a timeline in the presentation. It's not complete with respect to all the dollars and cents yet, but that will be forthcoming should we adopt one recommendation tonight and go forward. So I hope that's helpful, Karen. others online. |
| 03:36:56.12 | Deirdre Coyne | Next, we have Sharna Brockett. |
| 03:36:58.18 | Steven Woodside | his pocket. |
| 03:37:00.97 | Sharna Brockett | Hi, this is Sharna Brock and I've been a resident for about 13 years. And I just want to thank the council. Thank you so much for, you know, looking at, you know, asking for a holistic design. This is exactly, I think, what we were hoping for. I think those, these designs are just, you know, they're going to create more parking and make it, I think, more pleasurable to walk on Caledonia Street. So just wanna thank you for that. And I think project option number two and maybe three at some point are good ways to go. So just super impressed that the team was able to find this much parking with just some creativity and some working with a landscape architect. Thank you so much. |
| 03:37:44.86 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Others online? |
| 03:37:47.15 | Deirdre Coyne | Seeing no more comments online. |
| 03:37:48.98 | Steven Woodside | Okay, let's bring you back for discussion and decision. Mr. Sobieski. |
| 03:37:54.63 | Ian Sobieski | Yeah, I would just... like to commend everybody involved in this, uh, I am looking at Steven Rosenfeld because he writes for the Marin IJ and there's plenty of difficult news to talk about in the world and even locally. This is some good news. This is magic out of the hat. This is a small town digging into Expertise that's local parametrics SWA architect a world renowned landscape firm that Made magic we went from potentially losing spots to adding spots to creating space to making a more vibrant um region in that area. And I'm just very, very excited about this potential. And I just hope that this example of how we can actually innovate. that we can carry forward across the town and in all our processes from finance to HR to the built infrastructure. You know, we don't have to be in the stone age. doing things differently can accomplish win-win outcomes. And this is just beautiful. From my own point of view on what we should do, obviously, I think we should do option two immediately with paint. Doesn't matter if it faints. We actually agreed that we would implement, and this is to Kieran's point, AB 413, August 1st. That is 12 days from now. So that's what we said. And I think we should pull out the red paint and implement it and meet that schedule. And that means you should pull out the white paint and add some spots. We can shorten the spots on Caledonia. That'll take more time because we have to grind them out, but we can add some perpendicular spots right away so the net loss is zero, and we can complete the rest of the project on option two with a little more time. uh, So that's what I think. I think we should absolutely meter those spots. That's my own point of view. The residents should always park for free, but we're creating more spots. This isn't about meeting anyone, having to pay for a spot they used to be able to park in. This is creating new spots and all residents will park for free. So they will get their sticker and be able to park for free. And this, you know, the city, needs revenue to attend to everything in our delayed, deferred infrastructure town. So why we would miss that opportunity is going to be harder to do later. And then I do believe we should lay the groundwork for option three. We should fund that project. We should work on it. And on option two, I imagine it's going to take potentially some more money for SWA and parametrics to be consultants. We should make sure the city manager has authority to give them additional time and materials budget to work with staff to implement any issues as this comes forward. And I think separately, we should appropriate the funds necessary to fully sketch out option three. And it could definitely be phased in an experimental kind of way, the way Mr. Driver suggests. So those are my comments. Thank you. |
| 03:40:55.43 | Steven Woodside | So those are comments. |
| 03:40:56.98 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 03:40:57.01 | Steven Woodside | Um, I'll make a motion. Yeah, I was going to say those are comments. That's not a motion. I'll make a motion too. I know you would, but I'm going to ask Ms. Cox to make a motion. Maybe I'll suck a person. And Bill, I don't know if you had your hand up. I don't see it at the moment. |
| 03:41:13.79 | Joan Cox | Go ahead, John. |
| 03:41:14.70 | Jill Hoffman | I have comments, but I'm happy for someone else to make a motion. That's fine. Would you like to have my comments now? |
| 03:41:22.24 | Joan Cox | I'm going to make the motion and then we can take more comments. So I move that we direct staff to implement option two using the painting. approach. And Thank you. And the minimal expense necessary to implement it as expeditiously as possible with the goal of doing what we can by August 1st. And I understand we have to hire a contractor, but for $50,000 and under, we can do informal bidding. We don't have to go out to formal bid. And so we can hire much more quickly than through the normal public contract code hiring process. We can use CAPCA. So, and that we direct staff to A, do an outreach to affected residents as part of a potential pilot project to commence implementation of Option three. |
| 03:42:23.50 | Steven Woodside | Second, Okay, there's a motion in a second. I'll just on one small point ask if I'm a little concerned about specifying a date of August 1. I know we want to move as expeditiously as possible. |
| 03:42:38.53 | Joan Cox | I said do what we can by August 1. |
| 03:42:41.42 | Steven Woodside | Okay, I just want to make sure I understand the motion. Is it? I mean, setting deadlines from the dais, in my view, just doesn't work. Expressing urgency, asking that it be done as soon as possible, I think, is all we can do. David Bussin, The President, I think, is the best result here has less to do with parking than it has to do with public safety. I think the bulb out idea is that the and the separations that are involved are really important for public safety. So those are my comments, but |
| 03:43:25.58 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 03:43:25.70 | Steven Woodside | Just to clarify the motion. |
| 03:43:28.05 | Joan Cox | Sure. Director McGowan, is it helpful to We already told you August 1, so I'm not saying anything new. Is there anything you can do between now and August 1, or is that useless for me to include in the motion? |
| 03:43:43.05 | Kevin McGowan | We will do the best we can, but it's not, not, I don't think we can make that deadline just in reality. We will do the best we can, but let's, we'll, We'll get there and we'll keep you informed. |
| 03:43:53.65 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
| 03:43:54.56 | Kevin McGowan | Councilmember, I'm not too sure if I understand the last part of your recommendation about |
| 03:43:59.13 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 03:43:59.35 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. The third section. |
| 03:44:00.16 | Joan Cox | So- Yeah, so I do want to do an outreach to... residents in the area of Caledonia Street and the areas affected because we are talking about installing meters potentially And I want them to understand that they will be able to continue to park for free. Um, So I want there to be an informational outreach to residents as part of an implementation of a pilot program as suggested by Adam Driver to maybe do one street with the parallel plus perpendicular parking. Okay. |
| 03:44:41.86 | Steven Woodside | So you want to be included in your motion? |
| 03:44:42.51 | Joan Cox | I just want to. It was included in my motion. |
| 03:44:47.14 | Jill Hoffman | Should we just separate that out and do that as a separate motion or direction or a motion |
| 03:44:53.36 | Joan Cox | I |
| 03:44:53.38 | Jill Hoffman | I- |
| 03:44:53.80 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:44:53.84 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. Thank you. |
| 03:44:53.97 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:44:54.50 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. Well, |
| 03:44:56.00 | Joan Cox | There's a pending motion. Someone could make an alternative motion. |
| 03:44:58.72 | Steven Woodside | There's a motion and a second. I just want to make sure we're clear on what the motion is. It includes. recommendation option |
| 03:45:05.90 | Ian Sobieski | it again. |
| 03:45:06.82 | Steven Woodside | too. It also includes apparently a pilot project or something to deal with additional parking, et cetera, et cetera. |
| 03:45:16.43 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:45:16.45 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:45:16.47 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 03:45:16.48 | Ian Sobieski | THE SIDE. |
| 03:45:16.99 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:45:17.02 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 03:45:17.06 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:45:17.16 | Ian Sobieski | Mr. Mayor, would it be helpful if Councilmember Cox just reread the motion that she wrote down just to |
| 03:45:23.05 | Joan Cox | I didn't write it down. I said it off the top of my head. Yeah, and that's why. |
| 03:45:25.56 | Steven Woodside | And that's why I just want to... I think I would much prefer that we take straight up the option to |
| 03:45:34.62 | Joan Cox | All right. I'm just going to... I'm going to amend my motion. I'm going to make two motions. My first motion is to provide direction to staff to immediately undertake implementation of option two using the paint approach and carrying it out as expeditiously as possible. Thank you. and as cheaply as possible. |
| 03:45:57.73 | Jill Hoffman | I'll second that, Marshal. |
| 03:45:59.03 | Steven Woodside | Okay, so there's a motion and a second. And, um, Unless there's further discussion, let's have a roll call. |
| 03:46:07.16 | Joan Cox | May I just say? to staff. I am. jumped for joy when I saw you, quote, under the discussion, section 22500N1B of the Vehicle Code that I have read to this chamber's |
| 03:46:15.21 | Alice Merrill | to do. |
| 03:46:23.38 | Joan Cox | every time this has come before us, which is not withstanding the foregoing, we can, you know, not have to comply so long as we undertake other safety measures. I keep citing to that. Thank you so much for taking that bull by the horns and running with it and really coming up with a creative approach. |
| 03:46:41.70 | Alice Merrill | Okay. |
| 03:46:42.70 | Ian Sobieski | I will just comment. I often find that work fills the time allotted. It's the way I've always |
| 03:46:42.73 | Alice Merrill | I, |
| 03:46:50.56 | Ian Sobieski | crammed for my final exam and always finished whatever task I'm doing far too close to the deadline. Thank you. I simply don't believe I think a deadline is clarifying. especially in a matter of safety. Absolutely. you know, proposed- |
| 03:47:05.29 | Joan Cox | Let's give direction to have staff report back to us September 8th regarding their progress. |
| 03:47:09.82 | Steven Woodside | Wait a second. Can we keep adding these details? Can't we just |
| 03:47:13.31 | Joan Cox | Yeah. to address the discomfort. |
| 03:47:16.67 | Steven Woodside | I know he has discomfort, and I'm not prepared to give direction on a specific date after we've just heard from Mr. McGowan that it's unlikely we'll finish by that date. We just created a problem. |
| 03:47:16.70 | Joan Cox | I know. |
| 03:47:27.25 | Steven Woodside | instead of a solution. The solution is expeditiously keep us informed, in my view. I'm sorry, but I don't think deadlines work in the public sector in the way they work for cramming for exams. Well, if we said August 15th, August 20th, it's just a deadline. |
| 03:47:42.18 | Joan Cox | We're not meeting again. |
| 03:47:45.07 | Steven Woodside | I mean, I think we all agree we want this done, and it should have been done yesterday. |
| 03:47:48.63 | Joan Cox | yesterday. And he gave us a timeline of hiring a contractor within a month. So that's pretty good. |
| 03:47:57.17 | Steven Woodside | I want it done as much as you do, Ian. I really don't. |
| 03:48:00.20 | Joan Cox | They call the question. |
| 03:48:03.85 | Steven Woodside | Sorry. It's getting late. |
| 03:48:07.02 | Deirdre Coyne | Council member Cox? Yes. Council member Hoffman? Yes. Council member Sobieski? Yes. Vice Mayor Blaustein? |
| 03:48:13.64 | Melissa Blaustein | you Yes. And big thank you to staff. I didn't get to make any comments at all, but I had things to say, but I appreciate staff. Yes. |
| 03:48:17.35 | Deirdre Coyne | But |
| 03:48:21.55 | Deirdre Coyne | Mayor Woodside. |
| 03:48:22.33 | Joan Cox | Yes. All right, I make it I'm going to make another motion. I move that staff work with our consultants to implement a pilot project approach to option three, choosing one street on which to install the parallel parking on one side and the perpendicular parking on the other, that that pilot project include an outreach to residents, advising them that we will be adding spaces, we will be metering those spaces, residential parking will continue to be free, And indeed, parking should be more plentiful in light of the creation of additional spaces. |
| 03:49:03.88 | Jill Hoffman | Okay. Can I just have a discussion on that first? I don't think we've reached out to the businesses on Caledonia Street or the residents yet about that concept. And can we just, can we do outreach first until we come back and have feedback from the residents around Caledonia and the businesses on Caledonia to see if they support that before we go forward with the pilot? I agree. |
| 03:49:33.42 | Steven Woodside | I think the two sort of went hand in hand as I understood her motion. I could be wrong, but. |
| 03:49:39.77 | Carol Morales | Do it. |
| 03:49:40.56 | Steven Woodside | In other words, outreach, to design a pilot project If the neighbors are concerned and have problems, we may not be able to go forward as quickly. I don't know. I think we want to include the neighbors in this because it affects them most directly. |
| 03:49:56.88 | Joan Cox | Almost. I will amend my motion to include businesses, to residents and businesses in the neighborhood. |
| 03:50:03.55 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:50:04.47 | Joan Cox | Second. |
| 03:50:04.67 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:50:04.74 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah. May I ask if this be re-agendized before we go forward with any implementation of a pilot then? So in other words, before we start striping anything or before we start going with any physical aspects of implementation of a pilot, did it come back to the council for further vote from the council to go forward with an actual pilot? |
| 03:50:25.36 | Joan Cox | I decline that amendment. This is a pilot on one street to give the council more information about whether to expand it to other streets. I see Director McGowan at the post. |
| 03:50:35.00 | Jill Hoffman | That's when people come forward and voice their opinions. And that's when we actually listen to people voice their opinions is when it's on the agenda. That's why I would like that's why I'm saying I think it's really important for it to come back to council before we move forward. |
| 03:50:49.93 | Kevin McGowan | I'd like to add a comment to this discussion. and that these streets are generally 40 feet wide. And so when you perpendicular park, and you have parallel parking on the opposite side, you are reducing the back out space to 18 feet, if not less. We just need to be aware of that because our standard for development, in other words, if somebody builds a parking lot, their back out requirement is 24 feet. I just want us to know that I'm not saying this is a safety issue. but it is decreasing the amount people have to pass each other in two directions. |
| 03:51:29.15 | Joan Cox | Thank you, Director McGowan. That was part of the presentation from SWA, and that is why I'm only proposing it on one street to start to understand the impacts. We already do it on Litho, and we don't seem to encounter problems, but there's not a lot of parking on the... on the north side of Litho, typically. So thank you for that clarification. |
| 03:51:53.86 | Steven Woodside | Just a quick question. |
| 03:51:54.08 | Joan Cox | Do we have a motion and a second? |
| 03:51:55.75 | Steven Woodside | I understand, and just a quick question to make sure I understand. the um this does not require a change to the municipal code at this time. |
| 03:52:08.76 | Joan Cox | A pilot project does not, but to implement this permanently would require a change. |
| 03:52:14.76 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:52:14.85 | Joan Cox | and the |
| 03:52:15.02 | Steven Woodside | I understand the distinction. |
| 03:52:16.50 | Joan Cox | Thanks. Thank you. |
| 03:52:17.21 | Melissa Blaustein | Can I just read? |
| 03:52:17.87 | Sergio Rudin | Thank you. |
| 03:52:17.97 | Melissa Blaustein | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 03:52:18.02 | Sergio Rudin | Mayor, actually. |
| 03:52:18.04 | Melissa Blaustein | There actually. |
| 03:52:20.43 | Sergio Rudin | I will comment. I don't believe that the city municipal code provisions regarding standards in the off street parking facilities and private parking lots apply to the size of stalls that you have to have on your city streets. Those are typically set by public works detail or something similar in most jurisdictions. That being said, I think as a matter of best practice, the city public works does follow those standards because they are generally uh, having uniform standards throughout the city, um, allows motorists to have set expectations. And additionally, those standards do seem to work for all sorts of other city facilities, including the municipal parking lots. So if you're modifying those, I will recommend that you review and approve any design details so that you have design immunity in light of the issues raised by the Public Works Director about the shortened backup distances. And so I would recommend that design details do come back to you at some point for approval. |
| 03:53:23.93 | Joan Cox | I am going to amend my motion to include that staff bring the lands for the pilot project street to the city council for approval before. implementing them so that we enjoy design immunity. |
| 03:53:38.38 | Steven Woodside | And I think that's what member Hoffman was suggesting. |
| 03:53:39.09 | Joan Cox | Are you going to second that? |
| 03:53:41.99 | Ian Sobieski | I'll second it if it can be on consent, because this is just a, |
| 03:53:45.11 | Melissa Blaustein | be on consent. Can I just add one or have one request? |
| 03:53:48.03 | Ian Sobieski | Sure. |
| 03:53:48.30 | Steven Woodside | I'm sorry. |
| 03:53:49.45 | Ian Sobieski | Sure. |
| 03:53:49.97 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:53:50.14 | Melissa Blaustein | Given that just given what Councilmember Hoffman raised, which is important that the community members want to engage and we're doing outreach. Can I ask that we also have. some sort of community meeting that is agendized in current specifically for these neighbors in advance of it coming back to council to allow for that place to express concern so we have the data we need going forward. |
| 03:54:10.34 | Joan Cox | I'll add to my motion that the Public Works Department conduct a community meeting regarding this before bringing this back to the Council for approval of the design documents for the single street pilot project. |
| 03:54:28.65 | Melissa Blaustein | Okay, and make sure that it's... I want to make sure he seconds. Second. Okay. |
| 03:54:30.64 | Joan Cox | HE'S A BUSINESS. |
| 03:54:33.06 | Steven Woodside | Okay, we've got a motion and a second. I think it's clear. How about a roll call? |
| 03:54:41.02 | Deirdre Coyne | Councilmember Cox. Yes. Councilmember Hoffman. |
| 03:54:41.86 | Steven Woodside | Yes. |
| 03:54:44.24 | Deirdre Coyne | Yeah. |
| 03:54:44.33 | Jill Hoffman | Yes, and thank you. |
| 03:54:45.63 | Deirdre Coyne | Councilmember Sobieski? Yes. Vice Mayor Blaustein? Mayor Woodside? |
| 03:54:50.10 | Steven Woodside | Yes. Are there any other motions on this topic at this point? Thank you all. And I'm seeing a, I'm going to make an exception, Alice, since you weigh both hands so beautifully. Very quickly, please. |
| 03:55:10.10 | Alice Merrill | If you're going to let the residents know, do it in a more connected way than the the one that goes in the currents. A lot of people don't read the currents. It's often buried in the currents. I think she's asking for it. Do something that invites them. |
| 03:55:25.59 | Steven Woodside | Exactly. |
| 03:55:30.48 | Steven Woodside | Understood. Notice that drivers. Thank you. at the cash register. |
| 03:55:37.89 | Melissa Blaustein | Great. |
| 03:55:40.28 | Steven Woodside | Okay. |
| 03:55:41.84 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 03:55:45.16 | Ian Sobieski | How do we feel about metered parking on the 30 spots we're adding in option two? |
| 03:55:49.84 | Steven Woodside | That's a question and I'm happy to answer. I think we shouldn't go down that line. route right now. I think one of the features of Caledonia that affects both businesses and residents is there are not paid parking spots there at the moment. I think this would maybe send the wrong message at this time. I think if the pilot works out and we gain substantially more parking spots, then I think that would be the time to do it. I know I agree with you, we can certainly use the revenue, but I think with only 30 spots, it's significant, but I think it would really change the character of the community and perhaps affect the businesses and the residents. I don't know enough about it. |
| 03:56:43.62 | Ian Sobieski | The case for your consideration for yes is that it's an experiment. Because you're right, it might change the character. It's not a significant source of revenue just 30%. But part of the reason that meters can help businesses is it encourages turnover. again, residents park for free. Thank you. uh, People change. And so it's it's just a consideration. |
| 03:57:04.37 | Steven Woodside | No, I understand. And I think this is something that is not precluded in the future. But I think we need to have more than just 30 spots in order for the residents to feel comfortable with it, if that. |
| 03:57:16.91 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. Thanks for the chat. Thank you. |
| 03:57:19.19 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 03:57:19.29 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 03:57:19.31 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. Thank you. Karen Hollweg, And with respect to Council members so we ask these request and in thinking about our revenue concerns more generally might I request that we add to future agenda items, a conversation about a graduated. |
| 03:57:20.42 | Jill Hoffman | Bye. |
| 03:57:20.44 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 03:57:20.73 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. |
| 03:57:33.64 | Melissa Blaustein | parking payment structure, whether that's for Caledonia or for other areas as you brought up. number of times, I just think we all see that there's huge potential for revenue and rethinking how we address parking generally. |
| 03:57:45.58 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 03:57:45.62 | Melissa Blaustein | Yeah. |
| 03:57:45.75 | Steven Woodside | and it was... |
| 03:57:45.97 | Melissa Blaustein | Thank you. |
| 03:57:46.06 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. And I know there's some changes being made. I saw Officer Kwon out in an area of Bridgeway where they will go from individual meters to the, what do you call it, the staggered centralized place where people pay. And that gives us more opportunities with respect to programming the meters. So OK, anything more on this topic? |
| 03:58:09.61 | Jill Hoffman | Anything more on that? Just briefly, I think a few years ago, we were going to try to focus on Caledonia as a business area for EDAC. I don't think we were as robust as we could have been on that. But I think this being the issue of parking and paid parking, we would want to stifle whatever we're trying to move forward with Caledonia and create friction for people coming. I think that's kind of the issue if we try to implement paid parking. And so as part of that conversation maybe this year we'll follow up on that with EDAC and think about it. So. I think that's one of our issues that we might talk about on August 3rd. And I'll talk to our share about that. |
| 03:59:00.00 | Steven Woodside | Okay, I think that concludes this topic. And we now are finished with our business items, I believe. And unless there's a burning desire for council members to give reports, but I will call for that if anyone... Don't you want to get a report later? I do have a future agenda. Okay, well, I'm sorry, Jill, I couldn't hear you. |
| 03:59:16.61 | Jill Hoffman | Don't you want to get it? I do have a future agenda. |
| 03:59:23.17 | Jill Hoffman | about your trip to Qashqai, our successful trip? |
| 03:59:26.34 | Steven Woodside | I'd love to give the report, but I'm surprised you're thinking that you should give a report at your hour. I'm not sure. |
| 03:59:34.07 | Unknown | Good morning. |
| 03:59:34.34 | Steven Woodside | Good morning. We did go to Qashqai, but that's it. |
| 03:59:35.93 | Unknown | We did go. |
| 03:59:38.85 | Steven Woodside | We'll talk more about that because there's some future issues that will be of interest, I think. But not tonight. Joe. |
| 03:59:46.59 | Joan Cox | I have items for future agenda items. |
| 03:59:48.30 | Steven Woodside | Oh, yes. Future agenda items. |
| 03:59:50.42 | Joan Cox | I would like to add an item for the city to consider CEQA for one and three Harbor Drive. i would like to hear from city staff whether we can require sequa given that the vast Delta. in order of magnitude from our housing element for which we performed CEQA and the actual project. |
| 04:00:12.21 | Steven Woodside | I think that's a good idea, and we'll probably want to hear that sooner than later, because this matter is slated eventually to get to the Planning Commission. And it would be appropriate for us to have a clear understanding of what our options are. I will say this, I think the press has reported in an area in Lucas Valley where there was a kind of a similar situation where there were changes made based on Thank you. Um, what's the word, waivers, et cetera, that it actually resulted in physical impacts on the land and the county took position and prevailed in court that CEQA was indeed required for those additions. So we may have the ability legally to make it clear that the additional numbers and impacts on traffic, et cetera, require a CEQA analysis. |
| 04:01:07.39 | Joan Cox | The other thing is a community workshop on AIM. We heard from opponents and proponents that they would like a community workshop. So I'd like that. I'd love the agenda setting committee to consider that. |
| 04:01:19.25 | Steven Woodside | And so would these be, um, council meetings or would they be, um, |
| 04:01:21.01 | Joan Cox | that's what we're doing. |
| 04:01:21.19 | Virginia Irwin | Thank you. |
| 04:01:21.94 | Joan Cox | It's a good question. |
| 04:01:22.27 | Virginia Irwin | Thank you. |
| 04:01:25.36 | Ian Sobieski | It's a future agenda topic, and I think you may want to speak to the city attorney, because there are pertinent questions about how I support that entirely. But in what way can the city do that and still stay neutral? Because if the city organizes it... |
| 04:01:37.70 | Joan Cox | We could do it as a special city council meeting and just have people air their views. |
| 04:01:44.33 | Ian Sobieski | I don't think that's what we want. I would oppose that. |
| 04:01:47.22 | Joan Cox | I would oppose that. Sobieski to confer with the city attorney. |
| 04:01:51.69 | Ian Sobieski | I would have posed a special to the council meeting. That's just going to be a mess. |
| 04:01:52.58 | Joan Cox | So, I wanted to get hope. |
| 04:01:55.45 | Ian Sobieski | STILL. |
| 04:01:55.65 | Joan Cox | it. |
| 04:01:55.82 | Ian Sobieski | I would. |
| 04:01:56.21 | Joan Cox | We did the general plan. |
| 04:01:57.46 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. |
| 04:01:57.49 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:01:57.73 | Ian Sobieski | at the Spinnaker. And so the city attorney was going to look into some of those issues. Yeah, I agree. |
| 04:02:01.78 | Jill Hoffman | Yeah, I agree with Ian. I think it's an independent initiative and I think it's interesting that people want to have, you know, I think it's up to the proponents or the opponents to decide how they want to have the public meetings on that. I don't know. |
| 04:02:20.49 | Steven Woodside | Yeah, there was one issue that was not directly AIM related, but indirectly, that was organized by the Richardson Bay Yeah, so she like. |
| 04:02:33.55 | Ian Sobieski | I appreciate it. |
| 04:02:33.86 | Unknown | I can't. |
| 04:02:34.01 | Ian Sobieski | Thank you. Yeah, and that's the notion expressed by those sides of a city sponsored event. If you guys work it out with Sergio and there's a way of doing it that's compatible with the law, but I could see people complaining that whatever the city organizes somehow was unfair to one side or the other. So it would have to be done in a way that is a safe harbor of neutrality. |
| 04:02:34.87 | Unknown | Yeah, and that's the issue. |
| 04:02:37.62 | Samantha Schubert | Thank you. |
| 04:02:55.14 | Steven Woodside | And I also heard from people that it was not just a forum for a debate, but a forum for a conversation. Yeah. And that's hard to do. |
| 04:02:55.36 | Ian Sobieski | And I also- |
| 04:03:01.89 | Joan Cox | Yeah. And many... Many voters don't realize this is a citizen initiative. They think the city council is putting this on the ballot. And so for us to facilitate a community discussion could be helpful, I think. |
| 04:03:16.03 | Jill Hoffman | Okay, I think... |
| 04:03:18.95 | Joan Cox | I don't want to debate it tonight. It's not on earth. This is a future agenda item. |
| 04:03:19.00 | Jill Hoffman | I don't want to debate it. Thank you. No, no, no. |
| 04:03:23.13 | Sergio Rudin | I will look into those issues and report back to council. I do have some concerns because state law does prohibit the use of public resources to, |
| 04:03:23.15 | Joan Cox | I will. Thank you. |
| 04:03:30.39 | Sergio Rudin | advocate for or against a ballot measure. And there are some guardrails there that would need to be observed. I do have an entire elections law department at BBK that I can consult with to see how this has been handled in other jurisdictions. |
| 04:03:43.28 | Steven Woodside | I'm aware of some where, for example, the League of Women Voters will undertake not just have a candidates night, but they might have a forum on a particular night. |
| 04:03:51.08 | Joan Cox | And that would certainly- |
| 04:03:51.80 | Unknown | I'm not. |
| 04:03:51.94 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 04:03:51.97 | Unknown | Yeah. |
| 04:03:51.99 | Steven Woodside | Yeah. |
| 04:03:52.01 | Unknown | Thank you. |
| 04:03:52.06 | Steven Woodside | Certainly. |
| 04:03:52.46 | Sergio Rudin | Bye. |
| 04:03:52.63 | Steven Woodside | THE END OF THE END OF THE |
| 04:03:54.22 | Joan Cox | They have. How do you know that? |
| 04:03:54.44 | Sergio Rudin | You know, if we can organization like |
| 04:03:56.33 | Joan Cox | Oh, Lee has as well. Like I'm told by Debbie Ford Scriber. Okay. |
| 04:03:58.06 | Sergio Rudin | Oh, sorry. |
| 04:04:00.70 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:04:00.71 | Sergio Rudin | Thank you. |
| 04:04:00.73 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
| 04:04:00.75 | Sergio Rudin | Well, If the city could get an organization like League to sponsor a forum, that would certainly avoid any issues with regards to use of public resources. |
| 04:04:09.12 | Joan Cox | Right. |
| 04:04:10.45 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
| 04:04:10.47 | Joan Cox | To be discussed by agenda setting. |
| 04:04:10.50 | Sergio Rudin | I'm not. |
| 04:04:10.55 | Steven Woodside | I'm not sure. Are there any... public comments on the matters we've just discussed. |
| 04:04:18.79 | Carol Morales | Thank you. |
| 04:04:18.80 | Deirdre Coyne | So... |
| 04:04:19.02 | Carol Morales | none online. |
| 04:04:19.95 | Steven Woodside | Okay, I think we're ready to adjourn. |
| 04:04:22.48 | Carol Morales | Yay, thank you. |
| 04:04:25.74 | Steven Woodside | At 9.12, I believe. |
| 04:04:26.01 | Jill Hoffman | you |
| 04:04:28.93 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
| 04:04:29.27 | Jill Hoffman | Thank you. 412. |
| 04:04:30.90 | Joan Cox | 412. |
| 04:04:32.02 | Steven Woodside | Bye. |
| 04:04:32.34 | Jill Hoffman | Good night. |
| 04:04:38.53 | Unknown | you |